Kim Davis’s Attorneys Say She Met Secretly With Pope Francis - UPDATE: Vatican Spokesman Confirms Meeting

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Reports are coming out tonight that anti-gay Kentucky clerk Kim Davis met secretly with Pope Francis in Washington DC last week.

Pope Francis met secretly in Washington last week with Kim Davis, the county clerk in Kentucky who defied a court order to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, her lawyer said in a telephone interview Tuesday night. Francis gave her rosaries and told her to “stay strong,” the lawyer said.

Ms. Davis and her husband, Joe, were sneaked into the Vatican Embassy by car on Thursday afternoon, according to Ms. Davis’s lawyer, Mathew D. Staver. The couple met for about 15 minutes with the pope, who was accompanied by security, aides and photographers. Mr. Staver said he expected to receive photographs of the meeting from the Vatican soon.

At this point, who knows if it’s true? Liberty Counsel is an infamously dishonest bunch, but it would be pretty stupid for them to lie about something so easily checked. I’m withholding judgment until more information emerges, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it turns out to be true.

We’ll know one way or the other soon enough.

UPDATE at 9/30/15 7:44:24 am by Charles Johnson

A Vatican spokesman has now confirmed that the meeting took place.

On Wednesday, the Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, confirmed the meeting, but he declined to elaborate. “I do not deny that the meeting took place, but I have no other comments to add,” he said.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:09:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:20:24pm

People on Twitter actually getting angry at me just for passing on these reports.

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:22:35pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

People on Twitter actually getting angry at me just for passing on these reports.

Twitter makes people stupidly belligerent.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:28:00pm

As an ex-Catholic absolutely nothing would surprise me about the Pope.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:28:17pm

This smells like bullshit. The Vatican would have already released any photos of Ms. Davis meeting Pope Francis and it would have been a yooooge media headline.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:35:03pm

re: #5 Eric The Fruit Bat

This smells like bullshit. The Vatican would have already released any photos of Ms. Davis meeting Pope Francis and it would have been a yooooge media headline.

Yeah, Ms. Davis is currently newsworthy, so I’d think a meeting between her and Pope Francis would’ve certainly generated a good deal of media coverage in multiple sources.

OTOH, maybe she shook hands with him in the hallway, and Liberty Counsel has exaggerated it into something entirely different. Liberty Counsel is, after all, notoriously dishonest.

We shall see. Like the internet adage goes, “Pics, or it didn’t happen!”

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:36:54pm

re: #6 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, Ms. Davis is currently newsworthy, so I’d think a meeting between her and Pope Francis would’ve certainly generated a good deal of media coverage in multiple sources.

OTOH, maybe she shook hands with him in the hallway, and Liberty Counsel has exaggerated it into something entirely different. Liberty Counsel is, after all, notoriously dishonest.

We shall see. Like the internet adage goes, “Pics, or it didn’t happen!”

Even then they also liked about that Peru prayer rally for Kim Davis.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:41:39pm

re: #7 Single-handed sailor

Even then they also liked about that Peru prayer rally for Kim Davis.

Yeah, they’re slick, that’s for sure. Bunch of snake-oil salesmen.

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darthstar  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:49:44pm

What…you don’t think the Pope came to America to say mass and meet with President Obama, do you? No, he came to get Kim Davis’ blessing.

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Sophist C. Johnson  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:50:01pm

Did she take the opportunity to remind Francis that he’s a hellbound Papist idolator, I wonder?

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darthstar  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:51:38pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

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darthstar  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:55:25pm

Posted in the previous thread, but it bears repeating.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 29, 2015 • 10:59:24pm

Lets humor the rumor for a second here and assume it’s true. What it says about Kim Davis is that she was tested and failed badly. Because the story is that the Pope granted her a secret, private audience in which he offered her some level of spiritual support, but that she and her team were more interested in boosting her fame and in monetizing the moment than in respecting the sanctity and privacy of the gift as it was given.

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darthstar  Sep 29, 2015 • 11:00:59pm
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darthstar  Sep 29, 2015 • 11:02:04pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

Lets humor the rumor for a second here and assume it’s true. What it says about Kim Davis is that she was tested and failed badly. Because the story is that the Pope granted her a secret, private audience in which he offered her some level of spiritual support, but that she and her team were more interested in boosting her fame and in monetizing the moment than in respecting the sanctity and privacy of the gift as it was given.

HEY EVERYBODY! I HAD A SECRET PRIVATE MEETING WITH THE POPE!!!

Yeah, Jesus would have done the same thing.

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darthstar  Sep 29, 2015 • 11:03:12pm

I’m sure she spoke with him in Portugese, too.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 29, 2015 • 11:04:23pm

re: #16 darthstar

I’m sure she spoke with him in Portugese, too.

Tongues.

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darthstar  Sep 29, 2015 • 11:06:44pm
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darthstar  Sep 29, 2015 • 11:14:19pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 29, 2015 • 11:20:26pm

The Pope let down the Right on climate change and socio-economic policies, they have to salvage some sort of win out of this…

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2015 • 12:08:09am

re: #18 darthstar

My boot camp company commander on self-abuse. “Men, you can not beat your meat. You can wash your meat and you can wash it as hard and as long as you want to. “

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ozharas  Sep 30, 2015 • 12:26:35am

theage.com.au

Troy Newman “pulled off flight” on route to Australia for speaking tour, as visa is cancelled. With video!

I’m liking our new PM - so far.

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Kragar  Sep 30, 2015 • 1:10:11am

re: #22 ozharas

sucks having ties to terrorists and being a hateful shit

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 2:02:38am

re: #22 ozharas

theage.com.au

Troy Newman “pulled off flight” on route to Australia for speaking tour, as visa is cancelled. With video!

I’m liking our new PM - so far.

Expect the Religious Right to call for a boycott of Foster’s Beer and Qantas…

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Kate1230  Sep 30, 2015 • 2:03:33am

According to the article in the NYT, Staver said that he and the Vatican Embassy wanted to keep the meeting private so that the Pope’s visit to the U.S. was not focused on Kim Davis! WTF? Staver is delusional because Davis is old news. Nobody would mistake her “happening to be at the Vatican, when the Pope approached her and she asked him to pray for her.” She and her husband were allegedly snuck into the Embassy so as to not detract attention from the Pope.

It’s long past time for this woman to resign. She’s still hunting for the big $$$ she hoped would come from the mess she created when she refused to do her job. I’m waiting for someone in the press to ask her loudly and clearly, why she didn’t refuse marriage licenses to those who had been divorced as the Bible is certainly clear on not separating what God has joined together. Well, Kimmie, which is it? You believe in all of the Bible or only the parts you agree with and which doesn’t affect your 2nd, 3rd & 4th marriages? Don’t worry, you have plenty of company among the RW, although I certainly wouldn’t say you’re in good company with Limbaugh, Gingrich, Sanford, Vitter and many more.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 30, 2015 • 2:42:07am

re: #25 Kate1230

According to the article in the NYT, Staver said that he and the Vatican Embassy wanted to keep the meeting private so that the Pope’s visit to the U.S. was not focused on Kim Davis! WTF? Staver is delusional because Davis is old news. Nobody would mistake her “happening to be at the Vatican, when the Pope approached her and she asked him to pray for her.” She and her husband were allegedly snuck into the Embassy so as to not detract attention from the Pope.

It’s long past time for this woman to resign. She’s still hunting for the big $$$ she hoped would come from the mess she created when she refused to do her job. I’m waiting for someone in the press to ask her loudly and clearly, why she didn’t refuse marriage licenses to those who had been divorced as the Bible is certainly clear on not separating what God has joined together. Well, Kimmie, which is it? You believe in all of the Bible or only the parts you agree with and which doesn’t affect your 2nd, 3rd & 4th marriages? Don’t worry, you have plenty of company among the RW, although I certainly wouldn’t say you’re in good company with Limbaugh, Gingrich, Sanford, Vitter and many more.

I would love to know how someone could have been “snuck into the Embassy” given the number of eyeballs, both media and private citizens, that were watching the embassy when Francis was here. There were dozens of camera crews there and people lined up upon multiple possible routes the Pope may have taken to go to different events.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 2:43:37am

re: #25 Kate1230

Well, Kimmie, which is it? You believe in all of the Bible or only the parts you agree with and which doesn’t affect your 2nd, 3rd & 4th marriages?

This is the can of worms our own SCOTUS left open by allowing people’s selective, subjective interpretation of their choice of Scripture to be recognized as “deeply held beliefs”.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 3:21:39am

re: #26 Timothy Watson

Technically, it’s not an embassy, but a diplomatic mission. en.wikipedia.org

But it serves the same function.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 30, 2015 • 3:28:49am

Mr. Staver said he expected to receive photographs of the meeting from the Vatican soon.

In this day of digital photography and the internet/E-Mail why haven’t they already received them? Perhaps they are just waiting for Pope Francis to autograph them after they are printed out. This story has all the hallmarks of being

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Kate1230  Sep 30, 2015 • 3:30:39am

re: #27 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It also reminds me of the Hobby Lobby decision where their alleged religious beliefs and moral compass would not allow for them to provide birth control for their employees yet had no problem with the family investments that included those of the pharmaceutical company which provided the “morning after” pill and other similar situations regarding their investments that reek of hypocrisy. Guess they can look the other way when the money is coming in, it’s only when it’s going out that the Hobby Lobby owners religious beliefs rise up and must be adhered to. I haven’t read the SCOTUS decision in full but I’d like to see how they were able to, once again, pick and choose when and which religious beliefs were applicable to their decision.

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Bird in the Paw  Sep 30, 2015 • 3:36:46am

re: #30 Kate1230

You’ll know the religious exemption-du-jour when you see it; I think the pornograpgy metaphor is apprapos here. It’s all situational and which particular little complex the nutbar harbors. So, totally illegitimate as law.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 4:02:19am

re: #29 Bubblehead II

Mr. Staver said he expected to receive photographs of the meeting from the Vatican soon.

In this day of digital photography and the internet/E-Mail why haven’t they already received them? Perhaps they are just waiting for Pope Francis to autograph them after they are printed out. This story has all the hallmarks of being

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I’m not finding a lot of coverage, nor much verification on the Intertubes about this. Aside from the NYT, only the usual RWNJ sites have picked up on it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 4:04:04am

re: #32 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m not finding a lot of coverage, nor much verification on the Intertubes about this. Aside from the NYT, only the usual RWNJ sites have picked up on it.

I also have not seen it anywhere but the Usual Suspect sites.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 30, 2015 • 4:41:11am

re: #32 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m not finding a lot of coverage, nor much verification on the Intertubes about this. Aside from the NYT, only the usual RWNJ sites have picked up on it.

According to the Times article, the story first broke over at the Inside The Vatican blog. And here’s an interesting bit. While Staver’s claims photographers were there, this post by Robert Moynihan seems to make the claim that there were not any photographers there.

There is no recording of this conversation, or photographs, as far as I know.

I find the bolded part to be suspicious. If he was there, wouldn’t he have seen photographers there? Or did he get this story from a second party who is claiming no photographers were present. Like I said above, this whole story has all the hallmarks of being B.S.

First and foremost there is NO firsthand account from an individual who can claim to have actually witnessed the meeting, just anonymous Vatican sources. Followed by lack of any verifiable proof that it actually happened.

As for the claim the Vatican feared the “politicization” of the Pope’s trip, well that rings hollow when you take into account the things he said concerning the environment, wealth and poverty, etc. The whole trip was politicized from the git go.

So why would the Pope try to hide this meeting if he felt (as the story claims) being a conscientious objector and acting on your conscience was a basic human right?

Something tells me he wouldn’t.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 4:41:50am

I’m back at work, relaxing after a hectic weekend with 2 of my sons & their out-of-control toddlers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 4:48:15am

re: #34 Bubblehead II

So why would the Pope try to hide this meeting if he felt (as the story claims) being a conscientious objector and acting on your conscience was a basic human right?

There are no end of RWNJ theories to cover this eventuality. The Pope was scared of Obama’s retribution, etc.

All in all, it is a briliant PR ploy…along the lines of Donald Rumsfeld’s Known Unknowables and Unkowable Knowns…can anyone prove she didn’t meet with the Pope?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 4:48:59am

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

I’m back at work, relaxing after a hectic weekend with 2 of my sons & their out-of-control toddlers.

I know few toddlers who are fully under control (but some are worse than others).

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 30, 2015 • 4:52:14am

Considering that the Papacy is as much a political office as an ecclesiastical one, and during an international tour where every action is public excepting when the Pontiff ate, slept and went to the can, and when said tour was to help solidify and publicize the Church’s positions, there is simply no way that Kim Davis who was a nobody until recently is going to meet Pope Francis in private.

Do Davis and her fellow travellers realize that these lies mark them as everything but Christian?

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 4:54:37am

But, but, but Kim Davis never wanted all this attention!!!

Please feel sorry that she has to go through all this personal torture. This is the life of a good Christian, every day you get hung on your cross.

///

Morning!

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 30, 2015 • 4:54:56am

re: #36 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So why would the Pope try to hide this meeting if he felt (as the story claims) being a conscientious objector and acting on your conscience was a basic human right?

There are no end of RWNJ theories to cover this eventuality. The Pope was scared of Obama’s retribution, etc.

All in all, it is a briliant PR ploy…along the lines of Donald Rumsfeld’s Known Unknowables and Unkowable Knowns…can anyone prove she didn’t meeet witht the Pope?

How could the Pope be afraid of Obama being mad if they’re both Socialists? Surely, a Muslim like Obama would see Pope Francis’ meeting with Kim Davis as just the form of taqiyya that it is.

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Chez Ko Pe  Sep 30, 2015 • 4:55:18am

re: #38 Romantic Heretic

That’s the beauty of it. If/when the Pope says, “…What? That’s horseshit,” Davis will publicly denounce and dump her attorney and then the real fun begins.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 30, 2015 • 4:57:38am

re: #36 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So why would the Pope try to hide this meeting if he felt (as the story claims) being a conscientious objector and acting on your conscience was a basic human right?

There are no end of RWNJ theories to cover this eventuality. The Pope was scared of Obama’s retribution, etc.

All in all, it is a briliant PR ploy…along the lines of Donald Rumsfeld’s Known Unknowables and Unkowable Knowns…can anyone prove she didn’t meeet witht the Pope?

About the only way this will ever be (dis)proven is if an official (identifiable) Vatican spokesman come out and either verifies the meeting took place or denies it. Until then, I am going to keep this story in the B.S.file.

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 30, 2015 • 4:59:21am

re: #42 Bubblehead II

About the only way this will ever be (dis)proven is if an official (identifiable) Vatican spokesman come out and either verifies the meeting took place or denies it. Until then, I am going to keep this story in the B.S.file.

Quite concur.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:00:57am

I’m sorry but I can’t help but to think of this cutaway gag on Family Guy.
Peter: And that’s when Clarence Rhomas took me into his chambers.
Senator: Mr. Griffin, not only do we have evidence, you’ve never met Clarence Thomas, we have evidence that you’ve never ever been in the same state. How do you respond to that?
Peter: Babbabooey, Babbabooey, Howard Stern’s penis.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:04:21am

I’m sorry. I just don’t believe this at all. I can buy the Pope sympathizing with her but after the Cruz and Huckabee business, it’s obvious she would have wanted something public. The Pope is a popular man.

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:06:04am

It’s not a good thing that the Daily Mail in the UK puts out more detailed information about ISIS and the fight against them than does CNN. But reading this story about the different uniforms the so-called Islamic State uses, one finds that their all-black parade uniforms perfect for SS analogies. Their certainly as murderous as Hitler’s Nazi fanatics of old.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:07:07am

I’m calling 100% bullshit on this story. i) Kim Davis and her fucktard lawyer have zero credibility. ii) I’m not defending the Pope, but seriously, this dude has much more important things to do than meet with someone that refuses to do her job and continues to break the law. iii) These people are attention whores and have been proven to be liars over and over and over. Again, this story is bullshit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:08:00am

re: #42 Bubblehead II

About the only way this will ever be (dis)proven is if an official (identifiable) Vatican spokesman come out and either verifies the meeting took place or denies it. Until then, I am going to keep this story in the B.S.file.

B.S.file = Fox headline file

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:08:42am

re: #47 Dr. Matt

And I’ll add iv) WTF would the Pope and his team feel it’s necessary to meet in private with anyone….especially some backwood hick asshole from Kentucky?

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Bubblehead II  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:10:36am

re: #45 HappyWarrior

I’m sorry. I just don’t believe this at all. I can buy the Pope sympathizing with her but after the Cruz and Huckabee business, it’s obvious she would have wanted something public. The Pope is a popular man.

Well the last paragraph of this story (me being a cynic and all) just might explain why this story was leaked.

In this sense, the Pope on September 24 clearly “wrapped his protective mantle” around Kim Davis, discreetly, in private, in a way completely hidden from the world, but in a way that was deeply moving for her personally, as a person of conscience.

Me thinks that by claiming (secret) Papal approval of her actions, she and her attorneys are hoping she will be shielded from going back to jail on contempt charges. But that’s just the cynic in me talking.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:11:44am
For her part, Kim Davis was apparently shocked and delighted to discover that the Pope was one of her many adoring fans. “I was humbled to meet Pope Francis,” she said. “Of all people, why me? I never thought I would meet the Pope. Who am I to have this rare opportunity? I am just a County Clerk who loves Jesus and desires with all my heart to serve him.”
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:11:49am

re: #50 Bubblehead II

Me thinks that by claiming (secret) Papal approval of her actions, she and her attorneys are hoping she will be shielded from going back to jail on contempt charges. But that’s just the cynic in me talking.

Perhaps the Vatican City can offer her diplomatic asylum

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:14:12am

re: #50 Bubblehead II

Well the last paragraph of this story (me being a cynic and all) just might explain why this story was leaked.

In this sense, the Pope on September 24 clearly “wrapped his protective mantle” around Kim Davis, discreetly, in private, in a way completely hidden from the world, but in a way that was deeply moving for her personally, as a person of conscience.

Me thinks that by claiming (secret) Papal approval of her actions, she and her attorneys are hoping she will be shielded from going back to jail on contempt charges. But that’s just the cynic in me talking.

I think so and I have to say as much as I respect this Pope, he’s very wrong about SSM. Funny as hell to see someone who probably thinks privately that the Pope is a false prophet using him to legitimize her bs tho.

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Doofus  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:15:25am

VW’s “fix” is only for cars sold in Europe.

Volkswagen’s promise to deliver a fix for its rigged diesel engine “in the next few days” refers to vehicles sold in Europe and other foreign markets, not the U.S., according to a company source.

The “retrofit” that VW expects will bring the vehicles into compliance with government pollution standards was announced Tuesday in Berlin by the company’s new CEO, Matthias Mueller, who said customers would be contacted “in the next few days” with details.

and

The source said the retrofit in the U.S. is likely to require separate solutions for three different versions of the WA 189 diesel engine sold over the seven years since it was introduced, and may also require hardware changes in addition to altering the software.

As a result of that complexity, company officials are still working with the EPA, and announcement of a solution for U.S. VW owners remains some time off, the source said.

and a little more, just because I am bitter

Declines in either fuel economy and performance, or both, would potentially open up the automaker to claims that it fraudulently sold the vehicles and should be responsible for refunding the entire purchase price, said another attorney suing the company.

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:18:08am

I can tell you from personal experience and my own readings that the Society of Jesus places a strong emphasis on doing one’s duty to God and one’s fellow people. Pope Francis, who came up through that order, has himself made clear he believes that doing one’s duty is important to him.

I would be surprised if someone who believes that one must do his or her duty would meet with Kim Davis and then tell her to “remain strong” in Davis’ shirking of her duty.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:18:39am

I think she thinks by creating the allusion that the Pope personally offered his support to her that it somehow will get Judge Bunning, a Catholic btw to ignore taht she’s violated the law and people’s civil rights. It’s a very cynical strategy by Staver and Davis. Again these are people who probably have less use for the RCC than I do but the Pope is probably the most popular religious leader in the country right now.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:20:34am

Let us not forget, Kim Davis was not spotted by anyone, anywhere in DC, at the airport, or en route or leaving the vatican embassy in DC.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:21:32am

re: #57 Dr. Matt

Let us not forget, Kim Davis was not spotted by anyone, anywhere in DC, at the airport, or en route or leaving the vatican embassy in DC.

Hence my reference to the Family Guy gag. Someone would have noticed her for sure.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:23:26am

re: #57 Dr. Matt

Let us not forget, Kim Davis was not spotted by anyone, anywhere in DC, at the airport, or en route or leaving the vatican embassy in DC.

She was at the Value Voters Summit just a few days ago. It was in DC.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:24:49am

re: #59 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

She was at the Value Voters Summit just a few days ago. It was in DC.

Didn’t that start after he left for Philly. Tho I concede I forgot about her being there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:30:23am

re: #57 Dr. Matt

Let us not forget, Kim Davis was not spotted by anyone, anywhere in DC, at the airport, or en route or leaving the vatican embassy in DC.

The Holy Spirit lifted her up and carried here there, enclosed in His protective wings…

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Teukka  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:30:52am

re: #38 Romantic Heretic

Considering that the Papacy is as much a political office as an ecclesiastical one, and during an international tour where every action is public excepting when the Pontiff ate, slept and went to the can, and when said tour was to help solidify and publicize the Church’s positions, there is simply no way that Kim Davis who was a nobody until recently is going to meet Pope Francis in private.

Do Davis and her fellow travellers realize that these lies mark them as everything but Christian?

Apparently not.
I’ve gotten a lot of flak from that crowd for even discussion the notion that lying for God (indeed, committing any sin in the name of God) is tantamount to taking Gods name in vain.
Or for discussing the notion that one of Satans (favorite) tricks is to convince believers there is no way they can be wrong, as that makes them deaf and blind to God.
That one earned me a *clutches pearls* *gasps* “ZOMG that’s almost blaspheming the Holy Spirit!”.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:34:59am

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Didn’t that start after he left for Philly. Tho I concede I forgot about her being there.

Here was The Pope’s Thursday itinerary

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 24 (WASHINGTON, DC, NEW YORK CITY)
9:20 a.m. Address to Joint Meeting of the United States Congress
11:15 a.m. Visit to St. Patrick in the City and Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Washington
4:00 p.m. Depart from Joint Base Andrews
5:00 p.m. Arrival at John F. Kennedy International Airport
6:45 p.m. Evening Prayer (Vespers) at St. Patrick’s Cathedral

Her wingnut lawyer claimed they met between 2:30 and 3:00. Looks like he checked The Pope’s itinerary before he decided to spew this bullshit story.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:38:12am

re: #63 Dr. Matt

Here was The Pope’s Thursday itinerary

Her wingnut lawyer claimed they met between 2:30 and 3:00. Looks like he checked The Pope’s itinerary before he decided to spew this bullshit story.

Didn’t he have that lunchin with the homeless around lunchtime? But yeah it looks to me baring an outright denial from the Vatican, they’re trying to create reason to believe it happened.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:41:13am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

Didn’t he have that lunchin with the homeless around lunchtime? But yeah it looks to me baring an outright denial from the Vatican, they’re trying to create reason to believe it happened.

After delivering an address to a joint meeting of Congress, Francis went directly to the homeless at Catholic Charities — an itinerary designed to send the message that his priority, and that of the church, is the people who live at the margins. nytimes.com

Good call.

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b.d.  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:52:50am

That Davis and her squinty eyed, deranged, bible posse are such a bunch of limelight hiding wallflowers that I can totally see why they kept this secret for so long.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:54:16am

I have this image of Davis + lawyers waiting for the Pope at the embassy. The Pope arrives from his lunch with the poor, half listens to Davis’ spiel, and does the papal equivalent of a brush off — repeats some platitude and gives her some rosary beads — then asks the next person to come in. Probably spent 10 minutes tops with her.

Now Staver is making it sound like she had a private audience with the Pope.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:58:33am

Saw these reports this morning, and I’m inclined not to trust them - especially as to what is coming from the Davis camp. Given their malicious lies and nonsense spewed by her counsel about well everything, it’s hard to trust them on what occurred.

However, there are reports out of Vatican sources that a meeting did occur in private, but the Vatican would not confirm or deny anything. You’d think that if a meeting did occur, there’d be at least a photo of the event.

There’s not even a picture of the so-called rosary that the Pope gave her. Nothing.

All we have to go on is the word of a liar and her legal team that also lies.

But it does speak volumes that the Vatican isn’t exactly heralding her “meeting”. You’d think that they’d be out there supporting her, but there’s inscrutable meh emanating from the Vatican.

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b.d.  Sep 30, 2015 • 5:59:12am

I would love to see the reaction of Kim’s church crowd if she took out a set of rosary beads at their church

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:01:04am

re: #69 b.d.

I would love to see the reaction of Kim’s church crowd if she took out a set of rosary beads at their church

and recited the rosary — in Latin.

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JoyP  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:01:34am

First of all it seems unlikely the Davis camp would have held onto this story since they love the media exposure. Not wanting to overshadow the Pope’s visit? Bullshit. It’s all about Kim Davis and Mat Staver. Yes, the Pope is against gay marriage but of all the countries that allow gay marriage that he’s been to, he picks one poor, downtrodden, abused evangelical Christian in the United States to grant an audience to and tell her to stay strong to her convictions? And with all the trappings of a secret covert spy operation? Anything is possible but considering the way they lied about the Peru prayer vigil, I doubt the veracity of their story or at least the way it unfolded.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:02:27am

I can’t find any evidence that Kim was in DC before Friday.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:03:57am

#68 lawhawk:

While the Pope has indicated that he supports her, I think he’s hoping that the point of the trip remains focused on the poor and his climate change talk.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:07:14am

re: #68 lawhawk

That article says the meeting was 15 minutes long.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:10:46am

Freepers, in their wisdom, aren’t buying it either.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:11:21am
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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:11:52am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t find any evidence that Kim was in DC before Friday.

The Pope flew to Kentucky. It was a quick trip.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:13:02am

re: #77 darthstar

The Pope flew to Kentucky. It was a quick trip.

Needed Bourbon for the Vatican apartment when he entertains.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:13:12am

In more important news, today’s the expiration date on the Zadroga Act, which helps fund medical care for first responders at Ground Zero. The GOP has refused to properly and permanently fund the program, despite the fact that a variety of ailments are definitively linked to exposures at Ground Zero.

The GOP is treating the responders as disposable heroes, and must be held accountable for this travesty.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:13:47am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:14:29am

re: #77 darthstar

The Pope flew to Kentucky. It was a quick trip.

She was at VVS, which was in DC 9/25-27. She could have stayed long enough to meet the Pope.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:18:28am

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

She was at VVS, which was in DC 9/25-27. She could have stayed long enough to meet the Pope.

He was with President Obama. He was surrounded by Media. Nobody got close to him without getting noticed. Unless she hid in a bathroom stall and talked to him while he was taking a dump (again, there were no reports that the Pope defecated during his visit), I don’t see how it was possible.

Plus, her lawyers are self promoting lying pieces of shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:20:19am

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

She was at VVS, which was in DC 9/25-27. She could have stayed long enough to meet the Pope.

Staver claims the meeting happened on Thursday, Sept. 24.
As I said, I can’t find any evidence she was there before Friday the 25th.

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Great White Snark  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:20:40am

re: #29 Bubblehead II

Mr. Staver said he expected to receive photographs of the meeting from the Vatican soon.

In this day of digital photography and the internet/E-Mail why haven’t they already received them? Perhaps they are just waiting for Pope Francis to autograph them after they are printed out. This story has all the hallmarks of being

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Any minute now..

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:21:11am

re: #82 darthstar

He was with President Obama. He was surrounded by Media. Nobody got close to him without getting noticed. Unless she hid in a bathroom stall and talked to him while he was taking a dump (again, there were no reports that the Pope defecated during his visit), I don’t see how it was possible.

Plus, her lawyers are self promoting lying pieces of shit.

I’m just saying she was in DC, not KY. I’m not saying I believe the story about having a private audience with the Pope.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:21:17am

Forecast models are predicting Joaquin will be a category 2 or 3 when it makes landfall.

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b.d.  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:21:58am
the Vatican Press released a statement saying that “the Holy See is aware of the reports of Kim Davis meeting with the Holy Father. The Vatican does not confirm the meeting, nor does it deny the meeting. There will be no further information given.”

salon.com

An polite way of them saying that they won’t bust her for lying.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:23:26am

re: #87 b.d.

salon.com

An polite way of them saying that they won’t bust her for lying.

Right. And as I said Judge Bunning is Catholic and her lawyers and supporters have used that fact as a way of telling him to ignore the law.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:24:01am

re: #87 b.d.

salon.com

An polite way of them saying that they won’t bust her for lying.

I think they’re saying it was supposedly a secret meeting, and she tattled.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:24:15am

re: #85 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m just saying she was in DC, not KY. I’m not saying I believe the story about having a private audience with the Pope.

That was probably the first time in her life she traveled to a foreign country.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:26:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:26:23am
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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:26:26am

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

The forecast models are all over the place, and the NWS, NHC are both indicating that there’s low confidence in the models beyond the next 48 hours or so. It is possible that the storm could make landfall along the NC coast, but it could also go out to sea. It could also track further north before landfall.

It’s going to make for a very interesting weekend to say the least around the NYC metro area. But we need the rain - we’ve been in a moderate drought since the beginning of the summer.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:30:43am

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Forecast models are predicting Joaquin will be a category 2 or 3 when it makes landfall.

fall along the NC coast, but it could also go out to sea. It could also track further north before landfall.

It’s going to make for a very interesting weekend to say the least around the NYC metro area. But we need the rain - we’ve been in a moderate drought since the beginning of the summer.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:31:31am

Sorry, lawhawk…half your post I was also quoting got smooshed.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:32:32am

would’ve been great if what happened was the Pope takes her by the elbow, pulls her close, and whispered into her ear “uhh….just between you and me, you DO know there is no God, right?”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:33:06am

On the airplane, the Pope talked about conscientious objection, and Davis is trying to use that as affirmation of her disobedience.

What she has done is not CO, really. She went to jail for six days, then said she wouldn’t interfere with SSM licenses. Then, she did. That’s not CO. That’s lying, as well as breaking her word to the judge.

A real CO would have stayed in jail and not cried victimhood and martyrdom, even after she got out.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:34:06am

re: #93 lawhawk

But we need the rain - we’ve been in a moderate drought since the beginning of the summer.

You call that a moderate drought? We’re used to 150 consecutive days of no rain every year (even in non-drought years). That’s just late spring - early fall.

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b.d.  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:35:59am

Francis didn’t get to be Pope by embracing Pentecostal chowderheads.

I really hope he showed better judgment than that.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:36:46am
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Bass Reeves  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:37:25am

re: #53 HappyWarrior

This. She’s Pentacostal, why exactly would she take approval from the head of the RC as a good thing?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:38:13am

re: #101 Bass Reeves

This. She’s Pentacostal, why exactly would she take approval from the head of the RC as a good thing?

The Pentecostal head is Jesus, and he’s currently incorporeal.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:40:32am

re: #101 Bass Reeves

This. She’s Pentacostal, why exactly would she take approval from the head of the RC as a good thing?

Right as I said, Kim probably has even less use for the RCC than an agnostic (baptized Catholic btw) like me. This whole thing is cynical as hell. She knows that the vast majority of the American people do not support her and she also knows that the Pope by far is the most popular religious authority in the country so why not claim that he gave his blessings. As I said, I buy that he sympathizes with her completely but I do not buy that he gave her an audience. It doesn’t fit his character.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:40:34am

re: #102 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The Pentecostal head is Jesus, and he’s currently incorporeal.

I thought Jesus formed an LLC.
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:40:53am

re: #100 darthstar

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Never go full wingnut man.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:41:40am

re: #98 darthstar

You call that a moderate drought? We’re used to 150 consecutive days of no rain every year (even in non-drought years). That’s just late spring - early fall.

Where I come from, that’s called a desert. And you know what? People aren’t supposed to live in a desert /Sam Kinnison

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:42:03am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:44:37am

In which Steve Crowder shows how he deserves to be named SMOTI==>

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:44:52am

re: #96 Rocky-in-Connecticut

would’ve been great if what happened was the Pope takes her by the elbow, pulls her close, and whispered into her ear “uhh….just between you and me, you DO know there is no God, right?”

No, that wouldn’t be great. Pope Francis believes in God, make no mistake. Please don’t try to insert atheism where it does not belong.

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b.d.  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:45:32am

I refuse to believe that Mike Huckabee would let Kim meet the pope without him.

Settled.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:45:38am

re: #101 Bass Reeves

This. She’s Pentacostal, why exactly would she take approval from the head of the RC as a good thing?

Again, the Pope really let the Conservatives down with all his talk about social justice and climate change. They are trying to salvage a win out of this, and KD is offering them a big chance.

That is why they know their story will get picked up and spread by the Choir of the Faithful

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:46:10am

If this Kim Davis/Pope story turns out to be false is once again will show how stupid our media is these days. I’ve heard this story on the local news, the Today show and there are a lot of links in the Google “News” links.

It will prove there is no fact checking…just get it on the air/’net this is big!

Pretty damn sad when individuals have to do the fact checks.

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sizzzzlerz  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:46:20am

re: #29 Bubblehead II

Mr. Staver said he expected to receive photographs of the meeting from the Vatican soon.

In this day of digital photography and the internet/E-Mail why haven’t they already received them? Perhaps they are just waiting for Pope Francis to autograph them after they are printed out.

The Vatican hasn’t caught up to 21st century technology yet. They’re waiting for the sculptor to finishing carving an image of the meeting into marble.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:46:43am

re: #108 The Vicious Babushka

In which Steve Crowder shows how he deserves to be named SMOTI==>

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COnsidering Dems want to invest in education, ya know the things Republicans call “wasteful spending”, I think they care more about making people successful than Republicans. Republicans care about keeping people rich. There’s a difference.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:47:06am

Look at all the patriotic Putin ass-kissers responding

.

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sizzzzlerz  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:48:06am

re: #114 HappyWarrior

COnsidering Dems want to invest in education, ya know the things Republicans call “wasteful spending”, I think they care more about making people successful than Republicans. Republicans care about keeping people rich. There’s a difference.

Education: more free stuff for the blah people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:48:33am

Matt Barber is still tweeting the fake Kim Davis prayer rally in Peru photo insisting that it’s true.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:49:06am

And of course the media fucked this up, apparently.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:51:46am
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Bass Reeves  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:52:06am

re: #102 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Right, but I thought that meant that the she wouldn’t be interested in the approval of a false prophet. Am I missing something where a principled stand includes seeking the approval of someone you would consider a heretic?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:52:31am

re: #119 darthstar

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Yet another GOP hypocrite. Shocker.

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victor27  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:52:39am

Given the Vatican’s official stance of “does not confirm, does not deny,” the Pope seems to be trying to thread a pretty narrow needle here.

On one hand, his “Who am I to judge?” comment seemed to indicate a greater level of support for the LGTBQ community, or at least, for gay individuals.

On the other hand, his comments regarding family on his recent trip here seemed to indicate support for “traditional” families over same sex families.

The Church, and especially the bureaucracy, are huge and hard to move - it would be the work of decades to steer it towards a more-inclusive doctrine, and Francis cannot do it alone.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:52:40am

re: #108 The Vicious Babushka

In which Steve Crowder shows how he deserves to be named SMOTI==>

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That’s so stupid and nonsensical that I don’t even know how to respond to it.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:54:29am
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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:54:43am
Update 9:19 a.m.:

Kim Davis spoke to ABC this morning about her clandestine tête-à-tête with popular Twitter personality Pope Francis, and according to her, there was plenty of hand-holding and hugging and effusive words of support to go around.

SECRET meeting Pope Francis & Kim Davis VIDEO Kim Davis Interview about Pope Francis Meeting

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:55:27am

re: #124 darthstar

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HE’s a joke.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:55:57am

re: #125 Dr. Matt

I see someone finally bought her husband a collared shirt.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:57:38am

Shocking, I know. It was clear months ago that the GOP would push this strategy, ignoring multiple investigations that found no wrongdoing by the Administration. But the GOP sought to keep the issue alive to be used as a political weapon in the next campaign for the WH.

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:57:41am

re: #115 darthstar

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Look at all the patriotic Putin ass-kissers responding

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The 4th of those tweets is not unpatriotic on its face, as it may be explained by simple naivete. But bad as the others are, they don’t surprise me. Our efforts against Daesh (ISIS) have not gone well and, when things go as badly in a federal effort as they have against Daesh, the president is likely to be blamed.

Added onto that is Vladimir Putin’s carefully cultivated image a strong man who is willing to be make hard decisions, and that image gives him some support from those inclined to see Barack Obama as weak on foreign policy matters.

And what do I think? I don’t have time to say, since I have to leave to go to work in 15 minutes.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:59:03am

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

The 4th of those tweets is not unpatriotic on its face, as it may be explained by simple naivete. But bad as the others are, they don’t surprise me. Our efforts against Daesh (ISIS) have not gone well and, when things go as badly in a federal effort as they have against Daesh, the president is likely to be blamed.

Added onto that is Vladimir Putin’s carefully cultivated image a strong man who is willing to be make hard decisions, and that image gives him some support from those inclined to see Barack Obama as weak on foreign policy matters.

And what do I think? I don’t have time to say, since I have to leave to go to work in 15 minutes.

And yet Obama has done more against terrorism than Bush has. These people convince themselves Obama is weak on FP for the same reasons they convince themselves that Obama is a Muslim.

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:59:27am

I was wondering…do Apostolic Christian even believe in the Pope?

From this crazy-bad site (with lots of heart images) I would say no. So, why would Kim even meet with him? She is probably taught the Pope is a false god. Therefore, as devout as she claims to be, she would be going against her new found teachings.

And we all know she would never do that…right?

Roman Catholic Faith Examined! Apostolic Succession. The Priesthood

This from the conclusion:

All men will be judged in the last day by the things which the apostles and prophets bound upon us (John 12:48; Rom. 2:16; James 2:12; Rev. 20:12). All things which they bound are recorded in the New Testament. The New Testament constitutes “the faith once for all delivered to the saints” (Jude 3). What the apostles and prophets bound on earth was bound in heaven. Who will affirm that it has been loosed again? What the apostles loosed on earth was loosed in heaven. By whom has it been bound again? The only excuse men could have for pretending to be successors to the apostles is that they want to bind upon earth what the apostles have loosed, or loose what the apostles have bound. There are no successors to the apostles and prophets. The alleged Catholic doctrine of “apostolic succession” is not taught in the Bible.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:59:31am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 6:59:44am

re: #122 victor27

Given the Vatican’s official stance of “does not confirm, does not deny,” the Pope seems to be trying to thread a pretty narrow needle here.

I find it a very fine diplomatic way of saying “It is not worth taking up any of our time”

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:03:00am

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

Added onto that is Vladimir Putin’s carefully cultivated image a strong man who is willing to be make hard decisions, and that image gives him some support from those inclined to see Barack Obama as weak on foreign policy matters.

And what do I think? I don’t have time to say, since I have to leave to go to work in 15 minutes.

Actually, you did.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:03:21am

Got a named source now confirming the meeting.

On Wednesday, the Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, confirmed the meeting, but he declined to elaborate. “I do not deny that the meeting took place, but I have no other comments to add,” he said.

nytimes.com

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:04:26am

Are you fucking kidding me……..

To keep a low profile, Davis went to the Vatican embassy in a sports utility vehicle with her hair in a different style than her normal look, Staver told CBS, adding he was not present.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:04:30am

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

Got a named source now confirming the meeting.

nytimes.com

Okay, I can see that the meeting took place but I really don’t buy that he gave his full support and even if he did, he’s still wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:05:19am

I think he probably said he’d pray for her and was cordial with her.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:05:32am

It’s the Examiner, but seriously…Benghazi and out?

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:05:42am

re: #113 sizzzzlerz

The Vatican hasn’t caught up to 21st century technology yet. They’re waiting for the sculptor to finishing carving an image of the meeting into marble.

Do you know how long it takes to do a fresco!

The Sistine Chapel wasn’t painted in a day!

Fresco painting…

Fresco (plural frescos or frescoes) is a technique of mural painting executed upon freshly-laid, or wet lime plaster. Water is used as the vehicle for the pigment to merge with the plaster, and with the setting of the plaster, the painting becomes an integral part of the wall.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:06:36am

re: #139 darthstar

It’s the Examiner, but seriously…Benghazi and out?

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Seeking higher office?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:06:40am

re: #136 Dr. Matt

Are you fucking kidding me……..

They have played this up well…it is now up to the media to prove that they did not meet.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:07:27am

So Shell stops its Arctic exploration and KeystoneXL is going the same way? Wow. Good week.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:07:49am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Seeking higher office?

Cashing in.

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:11:03am

re: #128 lawhawk

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Shocking, I know. It was clear months ago that the GOP would push this strategy, ignoring multiple investigations that found no wrongdoing by the Administration. But the GOP sought to keep the issue alive to be used as a political weapon in the next campaign for the WH.

Lawhawk, is there an associated link to this story? The Tweet you put up has no reference to the quoted text. Maybe I am missing something, or it was in another Tweet.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:12:44am

#143 darthstar:

Oil prices being so cheap are killing stuff like this. Fracking is also being killed, which I’m not exactly sad about.

At the same time, though, it would be nice if the US would take this as a wake-up call. OPEC still has way too much influence over our energy market, and, compared to them, our own drilling and fracking don’t make much of a dent. The US would be wise to make a serious shift to renewables to decouple ourselves from OPEC, because they could actually do to us what they did in the late 70s.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:13:56am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They have played this up well…it is now up to the media to prove that they did not meet.

They have reached the level of cartoonish at this point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:14:30am

re: #145 ObserverArt

Lawhawk, is there an associated link to this story? The Tweet you put up has no reference to the quoted text. Maybe I am missing something, or it was in another Tweet.

msnbc.com

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:15:20am

re: #145 ObserverArt

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:16:00am

re: #149 lawhawk

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Because your party is so much more trustworthy Kevie.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:17:13am

HURR HURR!!!! SEE THIS PROOFS MEN IS TEH MOAST SMARTS, MENS NEVER GETS TEH PREGNENTS WITH TEH NOT WANTED BABBYS!!!!1!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:17:36am

re: #151 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR!!!! SEE THIS PROOFS MEN IS TEH MOAST SMARTS, MENS NEVER GETS TEH PREGNENTS WITH TEH NOT WANTED BABBYS!!!!1!!!!!

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Because it’s that simple, dummy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:17:52am

If you wanna be a conservative, don’t think dummy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:18:47am

re: #151 The Vicious Babushka

Don’t want a baby? Don’t get pregnant. Dummy.

then teach young people how their bodies work…and don’t just try to shame them into ignoring the prerogatives of nature!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:19:56am

There’s another Kentucky governor debate happening right now.

Bevin is such an eejit.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:20:24am

re: #125 Dr. Matt

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Let us tell you all about the secret meeting we had with the Pope.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:21:26am

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s another Kentucky governor debate happening right now.

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Bevin is such an eejit.

Because an endorsement 2 months before the first caucus and primary is necessary. Has Bevin endorsed anyone?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:22:22am

HURR HURR MATH IS TEH HARD!!!!!!

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:23:12am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Well, Bevin has supported an asterisk, Carson, and a former asterisk.*

*(Paul, Carson, and Walker)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:23:57am

re: #159 lawhawk

Well, Bevin has supported an asterisk, Carson, and a former asterisk.*

*(Paul, Carson, and Walker)

Ah okay.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:24:38am

of course he does…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:25:28am

HURR HURR HEAR IS UR BIRF CONTROLS U SLUTS!!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:25:32am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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of course he does…

Hope the miners see that.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:25:45am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:25:52am

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR HEAR IS UR BIRF CONTROLS U SLUTS!!!!!!!

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Your mother should have taken your advice Steve.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:26:03am

Steve is way out in front in Teh Stupids race this morning.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:26:10am

As reminder, the Pope went on record stating that the Church is too obsessed with gay marriage and abortion:

“We cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods… When we speak about these issues, we have to talk about them in context,” he said. Adding that the church should not be “obsessed” with transmitting “a disjointed multitude of doctrines,” Pope Francis said: “We have to find a new balance; otherwise the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel.”

Sort of flies in the face of meeting with homophobe Davis.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:26:57am

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:27:11am

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR HEAR IS UR BIRF CONTROLS U SLUTS!!!!!!!

So, I guess Steve was a virgin when he got married.

IS he married?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:29:45am

LOL!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:30:55am

Jack Conway drives me crazy, too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:31:14am

re: #167 Dr. Matt

As reminder, the Pope went on record stating that the Church is too obsessed with gay marriage and abortion:

Sort of flies in the face of meeting with homophobe Davis.

flies in the face because it’s covered in shit?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:31:24am

All right, Steve is a fucking liar. Under ACA, woman CAN NOT BE CHARGED MORE THAN MEN for health insurance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:32:06am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:32:54am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:33:30am

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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Okay here we go.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:33:59am

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Aren’t you blasting him or being a supporter of SSM , MATty?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:34:49am

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jack Conway drives me crazy, too.

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Sigh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:34:59am
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Ian G.  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:36:46am

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR HEAR IS UR BIRF CONTROLS U SLUTS!!!!!!!

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The way wingnuts talk, you’d think women reproduce by parthenogenesis. Notice how men are never, EVER mentioned in these moronic talking points.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:38:00am

He’s getting all his FACKS!!!!!!! from listening to his hero, Rush

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danarchy  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:38:21am

re: #168 lawhawk

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just FYI, the $4 number comes from what Walmart charges for generics. No insurance necessary. Of course this ignores the fact that generics aren’t always an option.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:39:17am

re: #174 The Vicious Babushka

That same article he quotes indicates that premiums for men went up 78% versus 44% for women (before subsidies). In other words, it doesn’t show what he claims it shows.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:39:17am

re: #181 Ian G.

The way wingnuts talk, you’d think women reproduce by parthenogenesis. Notice how men are never, EVER mentioned in these moronic talking points.

Did you see my sperm penetrate your ovum? No. So it didn’t happen, because no one saw it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:39:47am

re: #181 Ian G.

The way wingnuts talk, you’d think women reproduce by parthenogenesis. Notice how men are never, EVER mentioned in these moronic talking points.

Right.

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Targetpractice  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:40:08am

re: #149 lawhawk

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I like to keep this admission by McCarthy in context of the outrage and anger from wingnuts over Reid’s “lie” about Willard’s taxes and the resurgence of such in the wake of Reid saying he was not going to apologize for the “lie” damaging the Romney campaign.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:40:29am

re: #184 lawhawk

That same article he quotes indicates that premiums for men went up 78% versus 44% for women (before subsidies). In other words, it doesn’t show what he claims it shows.

U know that’s from Washington Times, right? The Moonie-owned wingnut rag?

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Bubblehead II  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:41:57am

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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Well I guess I get to move this story from the B.S. file to the extremely strange but true file.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:42:53am

HURR HURR BIRF CONTROLS IS FOR TEH SLUTS!!!! I’M NOT PAYING FOR UR SLUTTY SLUTNESS!!!!!!! Y U MAKE UR SLUTNESS 100% OF MY PAYING FOR RESPONSABILATYS!!!!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:44:45am

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

Tequila causes pregnancies? Sounds like a great ad campaign for Cuervo. //

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:45:46am

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

msnbc.com

re: #149 lawhawk

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Thanks to both of you!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:47:07am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

People on Twitter actually getting angry at me just for passing on these reports.

[angry]WTFHTFTIOSW!!!!!SSOSOOISXCXXXSEIWIOWESDLFJOWJFLSD[/angry]

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:47:51am

re: #182 The Vicious Babushka

Damn, liberals can’t afford their own birth control? You must be very bad at sex. $30 buys condoms, pills, lube and toys.

they do not understand how badly this is going to backfire on them.

it is not just liberal sluts who enjoy having sex.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:48:12am

#190 The Vicious Babushka:

I had a grandmother he would have liked. She was very strict and religiousy. And then we found out she’d had a baby when she was 17 because the child came looking for his family .

If sex worked the way he described, there would probably only be about a billion people on the planet.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:48:17am

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

I won’t pay for your birth control, just as I won’t pay for the Tequila which makes it a necessity.
— Steven Crowder

We know you won’t pay for our birth control or anything else, Steven, because you would have to be gainfully employed to do that.

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Unabogie  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:48:56am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:49:47am

re: #182 The Vicious Babushka

Damn, liberals can’t afford their own birth control? You must be very bad at sex. $30 buys condoms, pills, lube and toys.
— Steven Crowder

Steven tweeted this just so he could throw in the words “lube” and “toys”.

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b.d.  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:50:23am

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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Frances can snuggle up to those bigoted lunatics all he wants, worse than him not coming to the US at all imo.

Can we send him a bill for security?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:50:40am
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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:51:22am

re: #188 The Vicious Babushka

I’m well aware that the numbers are meaningless due to the source, but the same source debunks Crowder’s statements.

BTW, Crowder’s fanboys are even bigger derpers than Crowder. This has got to be the dumbest statement of the day (so far):

Analogizing between routine car care and women’s health.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:51:23am

re: #189 Bubblehead II

Well I guess I get to move this story from the B.S. file to the extremely strange but true file.

I’m a cynical fuck. I’m still holding out that it’s B.S. until pics arrive.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:51:40am

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR BIRF CONTROLS IS FOR TEH SLUTS!!!! I’M NOT PAYING FOR UR SLUTTY SLUTNESS!!!!!!! Y U MAKE UR SLUTNESS 100% OF MY PAYING FOR RESPONSABILATYS!!!!!

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But any woman he makes advances to should immediately submit, right?

MRAs need to drop dead in mass.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:52:23am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not a headline I thought I’d ever read… Putin Orders U.S. Jets Out of Syria - The Daily Beast

this feels like the last season of House of Cards all over again

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Timothy Watson  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:52:28am

re: #201 lawhawk

I’m well aware that the numbers are meaningless due to the source, but the same source debunks Crowder’s statements.

BTW, Crowder’s fanboys are even bigger derpers than Crowder. This has got to be the dumbest statement of the day (so far):

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Analogizing between routine car care and women’s health.

A lot of car warranties cover routine maintenance, and you pay for those.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:52:59am

re: #201 lawhawk

I’m well aware that the numbers are meaningless due to the source, but the same source debunks Crowder’s statements.

BTW, Crowder’s fanboys are even bigger derpers than Crowder. This has got to be the dumbest statement of the day (so far):

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Analogizing between routine car care and women’s health.

Well, Huckabee compared “harvesting human organs to be swapped and sold like brake pads for a Buick…”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:53:08am

re: #205 Timothy Watson

A lot of car warranties cover routine maintenance, and you pay for those.

If you buy a car in Canada it will even cover poutine maintenance.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:53:43am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bevin emphasizes passing Right-to-Work as a priority
— Sam Youngman

Sounds like a great approach to winning over working class voters.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:53:50am

re: #205 Timothy Watson

Yeah, there’s that too. But I find the analogy to be, well, demeaning and typical of the GOP mindset towards women.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:54:18am

re: #201 lawhawk

I’m well aware that the numbers are meaningless due to the source, but the same source debunks Crowder’s statements.

BTW, Crowder’s fanboys are even bigger derpers than Crowder. This has got to be the dumbest statement of the day (so far):

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Analogizing between routine car care and women’s health.

He is getting all these talking points from Rush. Nothing original in his derp.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:55:22am

re: #209 lawhawk

Yeah, there’s that too. But I find the analogy to be, well, demeaning and typical of the GOP mindset towards women.

Come check out my dipstick!

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:55:42am

re: #169 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, I guess Steve was a virgin when he got married.

IS he married?

No no no…it is the woman’s responsibility to not get pregnant. Steve is a manly man and cannot be contained.

He* will turn blue…or something.

*Or some part of him.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:56:31am

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

Which prez candidate would you vote for? Bevin says he liked Walker but chooses Carson. Rand campaigning with Bevin Saturday
— Sam Youngman

I guess Bevin doesn’t know Rand is running for Prez.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:57:11am

So, Crowder and his fanboys don’t want to “pay for women’s BC”. Then, why should “I have to pay” for others heart medications, or cancer treatments, or diabetes meds, or broken legs, or physical therapy, etc when I’m in perfect health and do not require any sort of medication or regular treatment? The ignorance is embarrassing.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:57:36am

re: #169 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, I guess Steve was a virgin when he got married.

IS he married?

He claims to have been abstinent until he married.
foxnews.com

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:58:12am

re: #149 lawhawk

McCarthy does what Boehner/Gowdy avoided for a year: saying Benghazi investigation has been a political boost. t.co
— daveweigel

So the Benghazi investigation is about giving a political party a “boost”?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:58:17am

re: #215 Timothy Watson

He claims to have been abstinent until he married.
foxnews.com

Like a dude Bristol Palin?

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Timothy Watson  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:58:50am

You know, I really wonder if Freud was right about a lot of stuff and people dismissed him. It seems that so much of the messed up conservative psyche comes down to sexual frustration.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:58:56am

re: #217 The Vicious Babushka

Like a dude Bristol Palin?

Why are you politicizing!!!!1111

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allegro  Sep 30, 2015 • 7:59:24am

re: #215 Timothy Watson

He claims to have been abstinent until he married.
foxnews.com

That implies that he had a choice.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:00:12am

re: #220 allegro

That implies that he had a choice.

Yeah, was thinking the same thing.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:00:26am

re: #217 The Vicious Babushka

Like a dude Bristol Palin?

Wait, so it was the tequila that got Bristol pregnant?

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:00:52am

re: #222 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Lack of aspirin between the knees. /

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Timothy Watson  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:01:43am

re: #222 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Wait, so it was the tequila that got Bristol pregnant?

Didn’t she claim that Levi Johnson got her drunk?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:01:44am

re: #151 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR!!!! SEE THIS PROOFS MEN IS TEH MOAST SMARTS, MENS NEVER GETS TEH PREGNENTS WITH TEH NOT WANTED BABBYS!!!!1!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:02:16am

re: #222 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Wait, so it was the tequila that got Bristol pregnant?

in her case it was wine coolers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:02:45am

WTFITS?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:03:20am

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

in her case it was wine coolers.

Zima.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:03:27am

Mollie is referring to the “newly discovered video” of a MISCARRIAGE that is the one Carly said she saw.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:03:45am
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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:04:21am

Crowder was the asshole who got instigated the fight with Union protesters in Wisconsin….

He’s the reason why I registered on LGF (12/12/2012) because Charles had a page about it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:04:42am

re: #231 Dr. Matt

Crowder was the asshole who got instigated the fight with Union protesters in Wisconsin….

He’s the reason why I registered on LGF (12/12/2012) because Charles had a page about it.

Oh that’s who he is.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:05:03am

re: #228 GlutenFreeJesus

Zima.

Zima is a crime against humanity.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:05:45am

BREITBART “CULTURE PANEL”
“Culture Panel” is Breitbartian for “Virtual Syrup of Ipecac”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:05:46am

re: #224 Timothy Watson

Didn’t she claim that Levi Johnson got her drunk?

That was baby #1. Not sure about baby #2.

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:05:54am

re: #201 lawhawk

I’m well aware that the numbers are meaningless due to the source, but the same source debunks Crowder’s statements.

BTW, Crowder’s fanboys are even bigger derpers than Crowder. This has got to be the dumbest statement of the day (so far):

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Analogizing between routine car care and women’s health.

Ha! And his name is Jim Breed.

And his Twit bio:

Licensed Professional Engineer. BSME, MA, MBA. Mensan. 3X Jeopardy! champ. The opinions stated are my own and do not reflect those of my agency

I guess he passed on all the women’s health questions on Jeopardy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:07:17am

Putting “Mensa” on a resume or Twitter profile is the same as screaming I’M AN ASSHOLE.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:07:34am

re: #218 Timothy Watson

You know, I really wonder if Freud was right about a lot of stuff and people dismissed him. It seems that so much of the messed up conservative psyche comes down to sexual frustration.

an awful lot of problems can be put down to that, along with a lot of early Christian theology.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:07:45am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

Oh that’s who he is.

Yea. Another card-carrying Fox douche.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:09:48am

re: #233 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Zima is a crime against humanity.

True story as my great grandmother was a Zima (very common Slovak name btw). My grandmother’s cousin bought a bunch of it when the drink came out in the 90’s.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:10:18am
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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:10:39am

re: #237 The Vicious Babushka

Putting “Mensa” on a resume or Twitter profile is the same as screaming I’M AN ASSHOLE.

A guy I served with in the Navy was a ditto-head, gun-humper, and frequently claimed he was a Mensa member.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:11:32am

re: #241 Charles Johnson

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Oh not at all. The Vatican’s reaction to the Irish SSM referendum’s success tells you what you need to know or that the Pope hasn’t reversed the excommunications of the doctors who have performed abortions on underaged rape victims.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:11:55am

From downstairs:

But more importantly, watch as Rep. Chaffetz lies outright and says, “I pulled those numbers directly out of your corporate reports.”

No, he did not. The chart was created by Americans United for Life, a radical anti-choice organization, and it’s not just laughably over-simplified, it’s deliberately deceptive. Like so much of the propaganda these people circulate.

When Cecile Richards points this out to Chaffetz, he doesn’t apologize for lying, of course. He just moves on with a smile.

“I pulled those numbers directly out of your corporate reports.”

“No, you didn’t, they’re from Americans United for Life.”

“Whatevs.”

That chart, good lawd.

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b.d.  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:12:19am

The pope meets with a snakehandling bigot while thousands of tithing, big hearted, lifelong Catholics line up to just catch of glimpse of a Fiat speeding by?

Screw that noise.

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retired cynic  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:13:17am

re: #245 b.d.

Yep. I think that summarizes it for me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:13:29am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:14:05am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hahaha.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:16:07am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:17:03am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:17:49am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s like they don’t even try to be consistent.

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Targetpractice  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:18:02am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s gonna build his own polling company! With hookers! And blackjack!

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:18:40am

Expect huge civilian casualties from Russian airstrikes in Syria. They have a very poor track record with this kind of operation and little experience trying to avoid “collateral damage.”
As we have seen in Chechnya, Georgia, etc. World War II ROE still apply in the Russian air forces, with the only improvements in accuracy coming from more advanced technology.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:18:47am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

As an ex-Catholic absolutely nothing would surprise me about the Pope.

Same here. When I saw this had been posted my first thought was, “Yup, the church would be stupid enough to do this.” I’m sad to see I was right (too!).

It makes me feel all the better that I ‘saw the light’ many years ago and walked away from that cult.

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:18:57am

re: #244 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

From downstairs:

“I pulled those numbers directly out of your corporate reports.”

“No, you didn’t, they’re from Americans United for Life.”

“Whatevs.”

That chart, good lawd.

I think the GOP committee members know that the important thing is to enter the conjecture in the public record and that it will become the truth to those that want to believe it true or not.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:19:21am

Trump got the endorsement of Larry Kudlow over his tax “plan”. Specifically, he endorsed the 15% corporate tax rate. No word on what Kudlow thinks of pretty much destroying the fiscal stability of the nation it with the huge giveaway to the rich (where even the conservative Tax Foundation found that it would cost $10 trillion at a minimum, and other economists found it costs $12 trillion). But because it helps the rich, he’s signing off on this bovine excrement.

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Jenner7  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:19:42am

Seven investigations that turned up nothing. Millions in tax payer money. And now they finally admit it was all to get Hillary.

Not about the four Americans killed.

Watch media “both sides” this.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:21:03am

re: #253 Shiplord Kirel

Expect huge civilian casualties from Russian airstrikes in Syria. They have a very poor track record with this kind of operation and little experience trying to avoid “collateral damage.”
As we have seen in Chechnya, Georgia, etc. World War II ROE still apply in the Russian air forces, with the only improvements in accuracy coming from more advanced technology.

And the targets so far have nothing to do with ISIL, but rather the Free Syrian Army, which opposed both Assad and ISIL.

As for the Russians warning the US about aircraft overflights, I’m not particularly surprised - they don’t want to hit US planes, and want to freely target those against Assad. For the US part, they’re continuing to go after ISIL.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:21:12am

re: #244 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

From downstairs:

“I pulled those numbers directly out of your corporate reports.”

“No, you didn’t, they’re from Americans United for Life.”

“Whatevs.”

That chart, good lawd.

Hurr hurr I pulled these numbers right here right out of your data reports!!!!11 Checkmate, Libtard!

“No, you didn’t, that table is from Americans United for Life.”

Hurr, uh, hurr. (applies white-out, pastes File Photo sticker over AUL credit). Thare!!!!1 Busted!!!11 Hurr Hurr FACTS

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:22:45am

re: #257 Jenner7

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Seven investigations that turned up nothing. Millions in tax payer money. And now they finally admit it was all to get Hillary.

Not about the four Americans killed.

Watch media “both sides” this.

It always was about that. Such a sham. They’ve been using Stevens and the other three simply to weaken HRC.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:23:04am

re: #255 ObserverArt

I think the GOP committee members know that the important thing is to enter the conjecture in the public record and that it will become the truth to those that want to believe it true or not.

PP performs way more abortions than others services confirmed FACT.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:23:48am

re: #254 Odie Hugh Manatee

Same here. When I saw this had been posted my first thought was, “Yup, the church would be stupid enough to do this.” I’m sad to see I was right (too!).

It makes me feel all the better that I ‘saw the light’ many years ago and walked away from that cult.

I feel the same way as you guys. I was baptized Catholic and haven’t been to a Mass for a long time but this honestly saddens me because I thought the RCC was showing some signs of moving forward.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:30:52am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

I feel the same way as you guys. I was baptized Catholic and haven’t been to a Mass for a long time but this honestly saddens me because I thought the RCC was showing some signs of moving forward.

I will take them seriously the day the College of Cardinals and Cardinelles elects a new Popess.

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:31:56am

So I just watched the CNN video with smug asshole David Daleiden.

Very interesting that he calls the still born baby an example of the “creature” that would be 18 to 19 weeks old in an abortion that would lead to tissue use.

Having a bit of trouble calling it a human or a baby David?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:33:15am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I will take them seriously the day the College of Cardinals and Cardinelles elects a new Popess.

Get rid of celibacy too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:34:17am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Get rid of celibacy too.

Just make it voluntary

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:35:37am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Just make it voluntary

Oh of course. If a priest wants to be celibate, that should be their choice but marriage should be permitted too.

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nines09  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:40:01am

Kim Davis lives for the applause

It’s a parody, don’t know if you saw it. I just stumbled across it. Lot’s of grift on that stage.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:40:15am
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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:41:07am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

I feel the same way as you guys. I was baptized Catholic and haven’t been to a Mass for a long time but this honestly saddens me because I thought the RCC was showing some signs of moving forward.

Well, I was raised and schooled Catholic, and the only hope I have/had for the Pope was to raise the level of awareness about climate changes and about economic disparity.

It is a hill too high to climb to think they would do anything different about SSM, abortion and birth control.

It is all about filling the church pews with more people who will fill the collection baskets with money which will make Rome happy the income streams are maintained. The Pope knows Catholic women have had abortions and use birth control. He MUST keep up the fight to keep the numbers going.

And as GGT often points out…it has nothing to do with too many humans helping toward climate change or poor people being able to properly afford the child.

Nice trick isn’t it?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:42:40am

re: #270 ObserverArt

Well, I was raised and schooled Catholic, and the only hope I have/had for the Pope was to raise the level of awareness about climate changes and about economic disparity.

It is a hill too high to climb to think they would do anything different about SSM, abortion and birth control.

It is all about filling the church pews with more people who will fill the collection baskets with money which will make Rome happy the income streams are maintained. The Pope knows Catholic women have had abortions and use birth control. He MUST keep up the fight to keep the numbers going.

And as GGT often points out…it has nothing to do with too many humans helping toward climate change or poor people being able to properly afford the child.

Nice trick isn’t it?

Oh? I wasn’t expecting them to become pro-choice or pro gay rights but by first saying that Kim Davis has a right to do what she did and then to meet with he,r, he makes his words about gays seem hollow.

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Jenner7  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:42:54am

It looks like Rep. John Fleming outed Trey Gowdy’s supposed retirement on CSpan.

c-span.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:42:56am

hahahahaaaa!

such an eejit…but I repeat myself.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:43:21am

BTW, C&L has a nice debunking of the video:

Update: Dr. Jenn Gunter, who actually is qualified to make the determination about whether this was an abortion or a miscarriage, explains why Cunningham is full of it.

Here are all the issues with the video from start to finish:

It is illegally and clandestinely shot.
I feel very badly for the poor woman in question and wonder why Fiorina and our elected officials are not as outraged as I am about her violation and exploitation. I had second thoughts about watching it myself given the lack of consent from the woman, however, I felt if I could end the conversation about it faster by weighing in. Time magazine or Slate have links.

The prep of the patient. The physician (I’m assuming) pours surgical prep/cleaner on the woman’s perineum. We don’t do that anymore for spontaneous deliveries or for abortions that involve induction of labor. This tells me this video is at least 15 years old or from another country.

The delivery. It is a spontaneous delivery as the operator waits for the fetus to be expelled. This is what we do with a previable premature delivery. If this were shot mid way through a 2nd trimester abortion (meaning the Laminaria in the cervix, which are osmotic sticks that help the cervix dilate, had just been removed) it is highly unlikely the operator would have waited for a spontaneous expulsion.

The cord is clamped on the fetal side. If this were an abortion it would just be cut. Really. No one ever does this with an abortion as it serves no purpose.

Waiting for the placenta. The clamp is left on the placental end and at the end of the video the placenta still hasn’t delivered. If this were an abortion the placenta would be removed with suction immediately, no one would wait 11 minutes. Ever. Every abortion clinic has a suction machine.

There is no proof this video is in a Planned Parenthood clinic never mind in the United States. This could easily be an operating room.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:44:00am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahaaaa!

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such an eejit…but I repeat myself.

So Matt, you’re slamming Conway for not endorsing anyone but you won’t endorse anyone yourself. Got it. Perfectly consistent. //

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:44:14am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahaaaa!

such an eejit…but I repeat myself.

Someone must have reminded Matt that Rand represents Kentucky and he’s also running for the nomination.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:45:17am

re: #276 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Someone must have reminded Matt that Rand represents Kentucky and he’s also running for the nomination.

And Rand is scheduled to campaign with Matt this weekend.
oops!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:48:12am

Calling it a night. See you later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:48:43am

Matt has a serious mess to clean up:

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calochortus  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:49:42am

Can anyone explain to me why an Apostolic Christian would want to meet with the Pope? What in the world would she do with rosaries? (Yeah, I know. #1 would be publicity and #2 is show them off or sell them on Ebay.)

Seriously though, isn’t the Pope somewhere in Antichrist territory for most fundies?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:50:37am

Whose “self control” is he talking about?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:51:35am

re: #280 calochortus

Can anyone explain to me why an Apostolic Christian would want to meet with the Pope? What in the world would she do with rosaries? (Yeah, I know. #1 would be publicity and #2 is show them off or sell them on Ebay.)

Seriously though, isn’t the Pope somewhere in Antichrist territory for most fundies?

Two things, she sees how popular and respected he is and sees that as a way of making her cause more popular. The other thing is that the judge in her case is a Catholic and her and her lawyers have been trying to shame him by pointing out that the RCC disapproves of SSM.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:51:47am

re: #280 calochortus

Can anyone explain to me why an Apostolic Christian would want to meet with the Pope? What in the world would she do with rosaries? (Yeah, I know. #1 would be publicity and #2 is show them off or sell them on Ebay.)

Seriously though, isn’t the Pope somewhere in Antichrist territory for most fundies?

Kim was a Catholic until she got saved.
Her parents are still Catholic and she supposedly gave the rosaries to them.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:52:28am

Priestly celibacy is an innovation first proposed around the year 300. The interpretation of “celibacy” at the time was “unmarried.” It is a discipline, as opposed to a doctrine, which means that there can be exceptions. The most common exception is granted for married Protestant clergy who wish to convert to Catholicism.

How well that worked can be discerned from the number of Medieval jokes as well as the number of recorded complaints about priests who plowed furrows closer to home while the men were out plowing the fields.

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:52:30am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Oh? I wasn’t expecting them to become pro-choice or pro gay rights but by first saying that Kim Davis has a right to do what she did and then to meet with he,r, he makes his words about gays seem hollow.

I agree Happy. I bet you the Pope thinks (and the Catholic Church) SSM is not good for populating church pews with new attendees. I think he believes by being a bit nice about some social issues it will attract people back into the church.

Maybe I am being too cynical, but I happen to believe much of what lies behind this Pope is about keeping the Church thriving with members. It has been in a decline for a long time. You and I are great examples.

Better economics…better donations, happier and wealthier people bigger families. Climate change…better earth for people to be happy and wealthy…to allow for bigger families!

And with that…got stuffs to do. Later!

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calochortus  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:53:35am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kim was a Catholic until she got saved.
Her parents are still Catholic and she supposedly gave the rosaries to them.

That makes sense, then.
edit: though it doesn’t explain her pre-conversion divorces.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:54:40am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kim was a Catholic until she got saved.
Her parents are still Catholic and she supposedly gave the rosaries to them.

That does make sense.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:55:03am

re: #281 The Vicious Babushka

Whose “self control” is he talking about?

Steven’s got some issues, me thinks.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:56:07am

re: #285 ObserverArt

I agree Happy. I bet you the Pope thinks (and the Catholic Church) SSM is not good for populating church pews with new attendees. I think he believes by being a bit nice about some social issues it will attract people back into the church.

Maybe I am being too cynical, but I happen to believe much of what lies behind this Pope is about keeping the Church thriving with members. It has been in a decline for a long time. You and I are great examples.

Better economics…better donations, happier and wealthier people bigger families. Climate change…better earth for people to be happy and wealthy…to allow for bigger families!

And with that…got stuffs to do. Later!

Right. It’s tough. I want to lke this Pope and respect him but I’ve been so disappointed with the church over the years from the comparing legalized abortion to genocide (willfully ignoring their own involvement in genocides in the 20th century), the continued second class treatment of women in the church, and the child abuse scandal- some of which has the hierachy blaming the children for the sexual assaults committed on them.

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calochortus  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:57:01am

As soon as I post anything, the site gets really slow and tends to hang up for me.
Back to lurkdom.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:58:47am

re: #288 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Steven’s got some issues, me thinks.

Steve is a plagiarist. He hasn’t said anything that didn’t first come out of Rush Limbaugh’s mouth hole.

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2015 • 8:58:49am

I call him ‘Douchehat’ and I am content to remain ignorant.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:00:13am

Wow, RS actually went there: The 13 most punchable faces in America

And, no, Steven Crowder and George Zimmerman are not included.

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allegro  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:00:53am

re: #280 calochortus

Can anyone explain to me why an Apostolic Christian would want to meet with the Pope? What in the world would she do with rosaries? (Yeah, I know. #1 would be publicity and #2 is show them off or sell them on Ebay.)

Seriously though, isn’t the Pope somewhere in Antichrist territory for most fundies?

That’s easy. The Pope is famous and Kimmy loves the attention. Religious beliefs have no play. If they did, she would have kept the secret meeting secret.

This reflects badly on the Pope to me by 1) giving his time to a hateful pentacostal bigot who hates him and his church rather than one of his own loyal flock (if I was catholic that would piss me right off) and 2) approving of that hateful bigotry in his god’s name to use her highly paid government position to deny the legal rights of others. If she were a righteous CO she would have resigned her post and given up the gravy train.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:01:34am

re: #281 The Vicious Babushka

Whose “self control” is he talking about?

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Everyone else’s, since he clearly doesn’t have any of his own.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:02:32am

Lies and smears aren’t enough, but that wont mean they wont keep trying. And if it means shutting down the government, by gosh, the GOP will try that too. Unless the RINOs in charge force the government to stay open (avoiding a massive hit to the economy - $330 million a day or more).

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:02:33am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Right. It’s tough. I want to lke this Pope and respect him but I’ve been so disappointed with the church over the years from the comparing legalized abortion to genocide (willfully ignoring their own involvement in genocides in the 20th century), the continued second class treatment of women in the church, and the child abuse scandal- some of which has the hierachy blaming the children for the sexual assaults committed on them.

He’s 100% better than the last Pope….but ultimately, he’s still a theocrat so he will always be flawed.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:03:21am

re: #297 Dr. Matt

He’s 100% better than the last Pope….but ultimately, he’s still a theocrat so he will always be flawed.

I know. I am glad I’m Agnostic in any case.

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Targetpractice  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:03:31am

re: #281 The Vicious Babushka

Whose “self control” is he talking about?

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“Self control,” in Steve’s case, seems to mean being such a colossal jackass that he couldn’t even pay women to have sex with him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:03:36am

re: #296 lawhawk

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Lies and smears aren’t enough, but that wont mean they wont keep trying. And if it means shutting down the government, by gosh, the GOP will try that too. Unless the RINOs in charge force the government to stay open (avoiding a massive hit to the economy - $330 million a day or more).

Including lying and smearing.

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CriticalDragon1177  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:03:36am

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:04:11am

re: #290 calochortus

As soon as I post anything, the site gets really slow and tends to hang up for me.
Back to lurkdom.

As I was getting ready to take off I saw your post. If you are using Chrome…turn off Flash Player in plugins. It does semm to help a whole lot. And usually you can still watch almost all the videos anyway as Chrome is using the newer HTML based video players. I’ve only seen one YouTube that did not play here at LGF. It was probably from a source that used the Flash Player. Even YouTube videos at their site play without Flash plugged in. Well at least the ones I’ve seen.

By the way…I have a bookmarked for the plugin page so I can change back and forth if need be. I am also hoping that within a few weeks Firefox will go the same route and it will all help push Flash out the door into history.

Here is a link. Hope it helps.

Disable Flash Plug-in in Chrome

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:06:06am

re: #301 CriticalDragon1177

Do you know what’s in the vaccines your children get? #DefundPP #BlackOut #TCOT #RebootLiberty pic.twitter.com
— Breitbart2Million (@Breitbart2Milli) September 30, 2015

Ah, yeah….it’s listed on the insert. e.g., MMR

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:06:30am

re: #301 CriticalDragon1177

Really, it’s not women in general whose access they want to deny. It’s young women, and poor women. Middle class and wealthy women will still have access to contraception and other health services.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:08:03am

Reminder:

CMP is a bunch of dishonest hacks, and the lies and smears must be countered vigorously. This admission by the videos’ creator directly and totally undermines Carly Fiorina’s claims she saw video showing just that. She continues lying about PP.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:08:18am

re: #304 Blind Frog Belly White

Really, it’s not women in general whose access they want to deny. It’s young women, and poor women. Middle class and wealthy women will still have access to contraception and other health services.

HURR HURR WE DONT WANTS 2 BAN TEH BIRF CONTROLS!!!! WE JUST WANTS TEH SLUTS 2 PAY 4 THERE OWN SEXYTIMES!!!!1!!!!!

If Martin Shkreli bought the rights to all the Birth Control drugs…

he still couldn’t get laid.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:09:23am

re: #302 ObserverArt

Here is a link. Hope it helps.

Disable Flash Plug-in in Chrome

What happened over the last few weeks with Chrome that this problem has gotten so much worse?

I finally disabled Flash. So far, so good. But this hardly seems to be a “fix”. Google should be ashamed for letting this problem fester.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:09:31am

re: #303 Dr. Matt

Ah, yeah….it’s listed on the insert. e.g., MMR

chick embryo cell culture and fetal bovine serum…

ABORTED BABBY CHICKENS AND COWS!!11!!

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:09:45am

Well, as some of you know, I work at a Catholic School. We just finished our whole school mass, and the new Bishop for our Diocese presided. The change from the old Bishop to this new Bishop is very similar in tone and focus to the change from Pope Benedict to Pope Francis. Still, they are representatives of the RCC, and it is still what it is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:10:01am

re: #303 Dr. Matt

Ah, yeah….it’s listed on the insert. e.g., MMR

WI-38 cells are older than most living humans. They date to about 1961.

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CriticalDragon1177  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:10:35am

To tell the truth if Kim Davis and her supporters think this visit from Pope Francis is going to help her, they don’t understand the situation. Her side has losing for the past thirty years. It will do more to lower people’s perception of Francis and the Church than it will do to help her.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:11:02am

re: #305 lawhawk

Reminder:

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CMP is a bunch of dishonest hacks, and the lies and smears must be countered vigorously. This admission by the videos’ creator directly and totally undermines Carly Fiorina’s claims she saw video showing just that. She continues lying about PP.

Remember folks, these people are “pro-life” but won’t spend a cent to provide better prenatal care, or to reduce infant or maternal mortality.

(typo fixed)

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:11:26am

re: #296 lawhawk

Congresswoman: ‘We Will Try Any Method’ To Defund #PlannedParenthood [VIDEO] t.co pic.twitter.com
— The Daily Caller

Yet the House Leadership has said it will pass the temporary spending measure that was just passed, 78-20, by the Senate. The measure would keep gov operating to Dec 11. So not sure why they’re continuing with the kabuki….

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allegro  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:11:35am

You’d think that the guys who continuously scream about being forced to pay for child support would be on top of the bandwagon with blow horns demanding birth control coverage by insurance.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:13:39am

re: #301 CriticalDragon1177

Do you know what’s in the vaccines your children get?
#DefundPP
#BlackOut
#TCOT
#RebootLiberty pic.twitter.com
— Breitbart2Million

So PP is harvesting baby parts and selling to companies that manufacture immunizations that are injected into children?

Gosh, everything makes perfect sense, now.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:13:53am

re: #314 allegro

You’d think that the guys who continuously scream about being forced to pay for child support would be on top of the bandwagon with blow horns demanding birth control coverage by insurance.

Stop using common sense.

The cost for health insurance to cover birth control is exponentially cheaper than having an abortion or actually giving birth and raising a child.

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calochortus  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:14:22am

re: #302 ObserverArt

Thanks, but I’m using Firefox and am an utter Luddite when it comes to all things technical. I tend to wait until life resolves these problems for me ;)

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:14:32am

re: #303 Dr. Matt

Ah, yeah….it’s listed on the insert. e.g., MMR

LIES!!!!!

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CriticalDragon1177  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:14:41am
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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:15:01am

re: #309 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Well, as some of you know, I work at a Catholic School. We just finished our whole school mass, and the new Bishop for our Diocese presided. The change from the old Bishop to this new Bishop is very similar in tone and focus to the change from Pope Benedict to Pope Francis. Still, they are representatives of the RCC, and it is still what it is.

I hope you never take a comment of mine about the church as any kind of a knock against you working there. Sounds like you’re doing great work with the kids! And have a realistic perspective about everything.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:15:08am

re: #313 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yet the House Leadership has said it will pass the temporary spending measure that was just passed, 78-20, by the Senate. The measure would keep gov operating to Dec 11. So not sure why they’re continuing with the kabuki….

Because short-term CRs will give them the opportunity to hold government hostage again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:15:46am

re: #316 Dr. Matt

Stop using common sense.

The cost for health insurance to cover birth control is exponentially cheaper than having an abortion or actually giving birth and raising a child.

HURR HURR WHY SHUD I BE FORCED 2 PAY 4 UR BASTARD BRATS!!!!! GET A JERB U SLUT!!!!!!

SAVE BABBIES FROM TEH BORSHUNS HOLOCOWST!!!!!1!!!!!!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:16:14am

re: #321 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Because short-term CRs will give them the opportunity to hold government hostage again.

Yeah, although I’m not sure why they think holding the debt ceiling hostage is a better move than holding the budget hostage.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:16:27am

The jig is up. The right is finally aware of our plans. We all know that aborted fetuses can be used to give us super strength:

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:16:42am
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:17:32am

re: #320 wrenchwench

I hope you never take a comment of mine about the church as any kind of a knock against you working there. Sounds like you’re doing great work with the kids! And have a realistic perspective about everything.

Not at all. I am not Catholic, and hold no allegiance to the RCC, beyond what is necessary for me to keep my job. I am loyal to my school, and my students, but I don’t need the Church for those relationships. Much of the criticisms that you or others post here are shared by myself.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:18:00am

LOLWHUT

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:20:51am

I think she means THE REST OF US GOP CONTENDERS ARE GETTING CRUSHED BY TRUMP WHO HAS MOAR MONEYS!!!!!!

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:20:56am

re: #326 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Not at all. I am not Catholic, and hold no allegiance to the RCC, beyond what is necessary for me to keep my job. I am loyal to my school, and my students, but I don’t need the Church for those relationships. Much of the criticisms that you or others post here are shared by myself.

I suppose it’s confirmation bias if I take your agreement as more realism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:21:16am

something for WW:

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:21:40am

re: #313 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yet the House Leadership has said it will pass the temporary spending measure that was just passed, 78-20, by the Senate. The measure would keep gov operating to Dec 11. So not sure why they’re continuing with the kabuki….

They’ll try to do it through reconciliation.

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:22:24am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

something for WW:

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Presta!

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Jenner7  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:24:58am
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:27:10am
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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:27:20am

Interesting nuggets within. For instance:

And while Trump is unlikely to go anywhere while he leads the polls, the answer to how he might exit the race could lay in his flirtation in 2000 with a run for presidency on the Reform Party ticket.
When he announced he would not be running that year, Trump decided to lash out at the Reform Party — and the candidates running — as not viable options for the presidency. Trump had actively flirted for months with a Reform Party run, making appearances and getting access to early state ballots.
“The Reform Party is a total mess,” Trump said on NBC that year. “I will not be running.”
“You could only win the whole thing with a totally unified party,” Trump added, saying the party was “self-destructing.”
In particular, Trump lashed out at then-Reform candidate Pat Buchanan, as well as former Klansman David Duke, who were also seeking the nomination. Trump had slammed Buchanan as “too controversial” to be president.
“The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” Trump said in a statement on why he would not run at the time. “This is not company I wish to keep.”

And yet, the current GOP includes a bunch of nativists (himself included), racists, misogynists, and the number 2 guy in the House once Boehner steps down is a white supremacist.

You also have a bunch of theocrats hoping to impose their religious beliefs on everyone else - Santorum and Huckabee.

So, if he’s being honest, he doesn’t belong in the GOP either. It’s too extreme, even for him (even though he’s right in the middle of the bad crazy, and has doubled down on the tax cut derp with his insanely expensive and debt damaging tax cuts for the rich “plan”).

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Targetpractice  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:27:29am

re: #331 lawhawk

They’ll try to do it through reconciliation.

Another symbolic “victory,” fucking over the country just to say they got their bill vetoed by the President. In their syphilitic minds, it will be “proof” that they can get bills to his desk, which will only mean further efforts to do so, in the belief that he’ll either have to sign one of them, Democrats will break from him to overturn a veto, or the American people will get disgusted by the vetoes and punish Democrats for allowing them to stand.

Meanwhile, in the real world, it will mean a lot more shit won’t get done because Republicans will spend all their available time furthering more confrontations with the White House. I really am beginning to suspect that, this time, they will be crazy enough to allow the nation to default.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:27:42am

re: #333 Jenner7

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Well, the GOP is really abhorrent.

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Snarknado!  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:29:00am

re: #319 CriticalDragon1177

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Uh… that accounts for 111% of abortions.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:31:00am

LOL this Twitter account

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:31:04am

Chris Stevens represents everything the wingnuts hate:

*Born and raised in California.
*Undergrad from UC-Berkeley
*Joined the Peace Corps
*A lawyer (J.D. from Cal)
*Spoke several languages
*A government employee
*Worked for Obama

If the Benghazi tragedy never happened, they would be smearing him today.

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allegro  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:31:50am

re: #338 Snarknado!

Uh… that accounts for 111% of abortions.

Footnote says some claimed both protestant and evangelical standing.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:37:05am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

I feel the same way as you guys. I was baptized Catholic and haven’t been to a Mass for a long time but this honestly saddens me because I thought the RCC was showing some signs of moving forward.

After what my Mom went through with the church after my father left her with six kids and my experiences in what I saw as an altar boy (no father/boy stuff, just hypocrisy), I quit the church as I entered adulthood and have never looked back in regret.

What I have seen in the 40+ years since has only confirmed that I made the right choice.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:40:46am
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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:42:25am

Why the fuck is the Vatican responding in such non-committal terms:

Everything We Know About Kim Davis’ Alleged Secret Meeting With The Pope

Rev. Federico Lombardi, a Vatican spokesman, later told the New York Times that he “did not deny that the meeting took place, but I have no other comments to add,” which led the New York Times to conclude that he had “confirmed the meeting.” To BuzzFeed, Lombardi said that, “yes,” the meeting took place — an apparent confirmation — but then repeated the line, “I don’t deny the meeting has taken place. but I have no comment to add.” According to David Gibson of Religion News Service, “it wasn’t actually a ‘yes’.

The response is highly unusual for the Vatican, which typically either denies false accusations or issues additional details and transcripts of the pope’s visits with dignitaries — and even everyday people.

In addition, the Vatican’s close-hold on information appears to contradict the Liberty Counsel’s claim that the Holy See would be releasing images of the meet up in the near future.”

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b.d.  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:43:23am

re: #338 Snarknado!

Uh… that accounts for 111% of abortions.

WE’VE BEEN TELLING YOU THERE WERE A LOT OF THEM!!!

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CriticalDragon1177  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:43:39am

We should get rid of religious exemptions for vaccines

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:45:03am
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CriticalDragon1177  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:46:46am

If you’re complaining about the new Muppets being too mature,

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Dave In Austin  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:49:12am

Dwayne lost Brutus yesterday to a poison mushroom. I’m just sick for him. We have 3 frenchies, one of whom is also a Brutus. I fight the mushroom battle every year. I have death caps that grow in the area and have been lucky. It just reinforces the need for vigilance.

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Jenner7  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:49:41am

re: #348 CriticalDragon1177

My kids and I watched this last night and my 11 year daughter kept saying, “I don’t get it.” But my 12 year old son was laughing.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:50:40am

re: #293 Dr. Matt

It must have taken quite a while to narrow it down to just 13.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:52:03am

re: #342 Odie Hugh Manatee

After what my Mom went through with the church after my father left her with six kids and my experiences in what I saw as an altar boy (no father/boy stuff, just hypocrisy), I quit the church as I entered adulthood and have never looked back in regret.

What I have seen in the 40+ years since has only confirmed that I made the right choice.

It’s hard to think of a single moment that did it for me but I remember learning about the Scopes Trial and it horrified me that Scopes was put on trial for teaching Darwin’s theories and I knew a lot of devout Catholics who were honest to God bigots to anyone not a devout Catholic. I know their parents looked down on mine for not raising my brothers and I in a strict Catholic fashion. My Dad’s own parents sort of started the exodus if you will. They had six children and did not like being told they could not use birth control. So as a result, my dad the youngest became the only sibling not to graduate a Catholic high school.

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Kid A  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:52:30am

Hmmm, four anti-choice nuts protesting in front of a Planned Parenthood office here in Spring, TX. I’ll be right back, I’m going to go inside to donate fifty bucks.

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:54:42am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

It’s hard to think of a single moment that did it for me but I remember learning about the Scopes Trial and it horrified me that Scopes was put on trial for teaching Darwin’s theories and I knew a lot of devout Catholics who were honest to God bigots to anyone not a devout Catholic. I know their parents looked down on mine for not raising my brothers and I in a strict Catholic fashion. My Dad’s own parents sort of started the exodus if you will. They had six children and did not like being told they could not use birth control. So as a result, my dad the youngest became the only sibling not to graduate a Catholic high school.

I had one cousin go after another (brothers) on Facebook when the daughter of the younger one posted that she’s an atheist.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:55:42am

re: #353 Kid A

Hmmm, four anti-choice nuts protesting in front of a Planned Parenthood office here in Spring, TX. I’ll be right back, I’m going to go inside to donate fifty bucks.

Put on an Obama t-shirt if you have one.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:55:45am

Ya know, I remember when I first heard about abortion. I admit it made me feel uncomfortable but then I realized that ultimately as a man I have no place whatsoever at all to tell a woman especially the billions I don’t know she must have children. And ultimately that’s what settles it for me.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:56:47am

re: #349 Dave In Austin

I’ll be in Austin next week for ACL. How’s the weather? Haven’t been in Austin in 15 years….how are the nights right now?

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Kid A  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:57:39am

Her sign says “PRAY TO END ABORTION.” How about “PRAY THAT ALL CHILDREN ARE WANTED” instead.

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It's on his hat!  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:57:55am

re: #353 Kid A

Hmmm, four anti-choice nuts protesting in front of a Planned Parenthood office here in Spring, TX. I’ll be right back, I’m going to go inside to donate fifty bucks.

I think I’ll talk to the wife about making a significant donation sometime soon…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 9:59:07am

re: #354 wrenchwench

I had one cousin go after another (brothers) on Facebook when the daughter of the younger one posted that she’s an atheist.

Damn but I can totally see that. My own grandmother doesn’t know I self identify as agnostic and that my other two brothers are more or less definitely not Christian. I don’t have the heart to tell her that if I have children that baptism isn’t a priority.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:00:11am

re: #358 Kid A

Her sign says “PRAY TO END ABORTION.” How about “PRAY THAT ALL CHILDREN ARE WANTED” instead.

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That’s what always galls me about these people and yo know these are the same types that oppose same sex couples being able to adopt too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:02:11am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:02:39am

I think along with my Asperger’s discussing my theological views with people is something I find most difficult. I simply don’t know if there’s a God and more importantly I think it shouldn’t matter. If there is a God, we should try to be good people and if there’s not, the same. But to many in our society, belief in a deity is connected with morality which frankly is shit. I still want to believe in the idea of a postiive afterlife but the logician in me can’t see it as real.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:05:28am

re: #357 Dr. Matt

I’ll be in Austin next week for ACL. How’s the weather? Haven’t been in Austin in 15 years….how are the nights right now?

Matt, showers expected Thursday but you should have a great show. We are getting out of tow and heading to South Padre for a week otherwise I’d meet for coffee or other. Find a place to stay?

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Skip Intro  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:05:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:06:14am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:07:44am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Makes him sound like a Frat Douche Bro.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:08:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:09:47am

one more:

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Mattand  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:10:13am

Meet the new Pope, same as the old Pope.

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:10:58am

Science advances quickly, but rarely in advance of the need:

Using technical advances not yet developed when the 2014 Ebola outbreak began, UC San Francisco-led scientists completed a proof-of-principle study on a real-time blood test based on DNA sequencing that can be used to rapidly diagnose Ebola and other acute infections. The researchers said that the test can be used even where lab space and medical infrastructure are scarce.

[…]

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Skip Intro  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:11:18am

Pope Francis’ Kim Davis Visit Is the Dumbest Thing He’s Ever Done

esquire.com

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:13:32am
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Jenner7  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:14:04am

Uh huh.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:14:17am

re: #356 HappyWarrior

Ya know, I remember when I first heard about abortion. I admit it made me feel uncomfortable but then I realized that ultimately as a man I have no place whatsoever at all to tell a woman especially the billions I don’t know she must have children. And ultimately that’s what settles it for me.

I remember my first exposure to abortion.

I was about eleven, and I was watching that old Raymond Burr cop boiler, Ironside.

This episode started off with a young woman sitting on a park bench to watch some children playing. She looked rather sad. Then there was a segue to find it was dark and the woman was sitting in the same spot. A park worker comes up to her, asks if she was all right and gives her a shake.

She falls over, dead. Scared me rather badly as there didn’t seem to be a reason for it.

It turns out she’d gotten an illegal abortion (This was before Roe v. Wade) and had bled out.

At eleven I didn’t know what to make of it, except that I was horrified that poor woman had died because of some asshole’s incompetence. The fetus or embryo, probably an embryo, didn’t enter into the equation it was just a plot point.

Later, when I became aware of the abortion controversy, that show quickly helped me make up my mind. The woman matters and, I’m sorry to say, the embryo does not. In real life it may not be a plot point but it’s certainly not a person and therefore its existence can’t threaten the existence of the woman.

Ever since I’ve been of the opinion that abortion is between a woman and her doctor(s) only. I have no say in the matter. Better it’s legal and safe than having some woman bleed out on a park bench.

Who says TV offers nothing but pablum?

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KGxvi  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:14:18am

We were never really devout Catholics when I was growing up. I went to a Catholic elementary school, but that was probably mostly because the district we were in wasn’t exactly great at the time. But we didn’t go to Mass every Sunday for long stretches of my youth. I did confirmation in high school just because, though by then I can’t say I really believed much of it. It just never made much sense to me - there’s this all powerful, loving god who can’t stop the devil? And who allows things like pediatric cancer to exist? Then when I started hearing the intelligent design stuff, all I could do was laugh - as I mentioned the other day, I don’t really think the human body is very intelligently designed. I think I identify as an agnostic deist - willing to accept the idea that something set the universe in motion, but finding it to be more or less irrelevant because if it exists, it doesn’t have much more control over the universe than we do.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:14:27am

GOHMERT!!!!!!!!!1!!

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:15:10am

re: #374 Jenner7

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Uh huh.

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Jenner7  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:15:29am

I’m just not surprised Pope Francis visited Kim. He loves all people, even bigots. Doesn’t make me think less of him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:16:06am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

GOHMERT!!!!!!!!!1!!

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Because everything has a flat rate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:16:44am
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Skip Intro  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:16:53am

Jeb! Remember him?

On Tuesday, Jeb! presented his energy strategy to the country and there isn’t a single dipthong in the thing that comes as any kind of a surprise to anyone aware of how fundamentally oily the Bush family fortune is. Drill everywhere. Frack everywhere. Not a single mention of renewable energy sources. And, of course, build the death funnel as quickly as humanly possible because profits! The only shock was the fact that, in the course of putting together this death warrant for the planet, Jeb! apparently took his basic text from the Epistle of St. Paul To The Hydrocarbons.

“Praise Jesus!” Bush said of the potential of American capitalism. “I get fired up when I see examples like this cause this is what separates us from the rest of the world.”

esquire.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:17:33am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

GOHMERT!!!!!!!!!1!!

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Even if it that was remotely true, it didn’t come from federal money.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:17:45am

re: #379 Jenner7

I’m just not surprised Pope Francis visited Kim. He loves all people, even bigots. Doesn’t make me think less of him.

It could be that he was just doing penance.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:17:51am

Another personal bit about me and religion but I remember feeling even as early as 6-7 years old when my parents enrolled me in CCD that the whole blood of Christ thing just was weird. I didn’t quit CCD because of deep enlightenment though. I was like any other kid, I would rather spend my Monday nights doing something more fun.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:18:32am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

Even if it that was remotely true, it didn’t come from federal money.

Right.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:18:58am

#371 wrenchwench: I think that’s true in medicine because medicine mainly reacts to things. Otherwise we get eugenics.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:19:59am

re: #384 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It could be that he was just doing penance.

Maybe he’s Opus Dei and that meeting substituted for his required flagellation.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:20:16am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

GOHMERT!!!!!!!!!1!!

“Also, we all saw chart yesterday that proof PP does more abort than any other service. I dug those data numbers straight out of PP report and draw up chart to show.”

///

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:21:07am

Trump allegedly stalked Princess Diana==>

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:21:51am

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

Trump allegedly stalked Princess Diana==>

They had a fling. It was YOOOOOOGEEEE

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:22:22am

re: #391 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

They had a fling. It was YOOOOOOGEEEE

I promised her that I would be her greatest ever. //

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:23:34am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:23:39am

re: #389 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

“Also, we all saw chart yesterday that proof PP does more abort than any other service. I dug those data numbers straight out of PP report and draw up chart to show.”

///

Because I suffer from a rare condition (Televised news causes nausea) so I must ask someone who watched, did any of the charts have little babbies with Xs for eyes?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:25:31am

re: #394 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Because I suffer from a rare condition (Televised news causes nausea) so I must ask someone who watched, did any of the charts have little babbies with Xs for eyes?

Not that sophisticated.
//

See Charles’ post on House Congresscritter Jason Chaffetz a couple doors downstairs.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:25:38am

re: #375 Romantic Heretic

A lot of kids in the 1980s would probably watch Dirty Dancing, and not quite get what was going on with Patrick Swayze’s dancing partner Penny before Baby comes along to save the day (first with the money to pay for an abortion, and then to get her dad who was a doctor). It was a back-room abortion that got her in so much trouble, and why Baby had to get her dad to help save her life.

Of course, no one wants to put Baby in the corner, but few want to see the movie for more than just the dancing. It shows just how dangerous things are for women, especially if abortion is made illegal.

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ObserverArt  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:25:50am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

What happened over the last few weeks with Chrome that this problem has gotten so much worse?

I finally disabled Flash. So far, so good. But this hardly seems to be a “fix”. Google should be ashamed for letting this problem fester.

Dr. Matt, I was away for a bit and came back and saw this.

It really isn’t Google doing anything wrong, I think they are trying to do the right thing. There have been issues with Adobe Flash player for some time. Google and others are trying to move away from it. The move is causing the problems and Google seems to be leading on the change. SO, Chrome gets a blame that really isn’t needed. Heck, before reading about it, I was pissed off at Chrome too.

Best I can do is give you a link that explains it. As I said upthread, I hope this is all fixed up in all browsers in a few months. The link has some good tips.

Google and Mozilla pull the plug on Adobe Flash: Tech giants disable the program on browsers following ‘critical’ security flaw

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:26:47am

re: #393 The Vicious Babushka

He got Larry Kudlow to also bless his tax cuts for the rich and corporations. Everyone just has to ignore the debt blowing experience thereafter as revenues come up short to the tune of 10 trillion (with a T) at a minimum.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:27:22am

re: #393 The Vicious Babushka

With Tax Plan, Donald is the New Ronald

“Fear not; the Swedish-made penis enlarger cometh.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:27:22am

re: #398 lawhawk

He got Larry Kudlow to also bless his tax cuts for the rich and corporations. Everyone just has to ignore the debt blowing experience thereafter as revenues come up short to the tune of 10 trillion (with a T) at a minimum.

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KGxvi  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:28:25am

re: #396 lawhawk

no one wants to put Baby in the corner

whenever I hear that line now, this is my first thought.

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Lidane  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:31:42am

I’m so sick of hearing about Kim Davis. She’s not a special snowflake. She’s not brave. She’s a bigot who wants to keep her $80k paycheck without being required to do the elected job she willingly ran for.

It’s disappointing to me that anyone thought that the Pope’s time in America should be wasted by meeting her and giving the bigots more ammo in their nonsensical war on the rule of law.

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Kragar  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:32:25am

This fucking company I have to deal with to pay off my kid’s glasses is pissing me the fuck off.

2 months in a row, I have to re-register my account on their website and I still can’t get in.

2 months in a row, their automated phone system doesn’t actually pick up voice cues and won’t process numbers when you input them on the keypad.

Twice now, I’ve ended up having to wait on hold to talk to an obviously burned out customer service rep to manually process my payment, usually waiting 20-30 minutes just to talk to someone.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:32:58am

re: #402 Lidane

I’m so sick of hearing about Kim Davis. She’s not a special snowflake. She’s not brave. She’s a bigot who wants to keep her $80k paycheck without being required to do the elected job she willingly ran for.

It’s disappointing to me that anyone thought that the Pope’s time in America should be wasted by meeting her and giving the bigots more ammo in their nonsensical war on the rule of law.

She’s a modern George Wallace but perhaps even worse since Davis and her supporters actually believe she’s akin to the people Wallace was persecuting.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:34:10am

Dana “Muhgunz” is having a Twitter meltdown over this==>

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:35:12am

re: #405 The Vicious Babushka

Dana “Muhgunz” is having a Twitter meltdown over this==>

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She really needs to find a new hobby other than guns. It’s sick. And if you really want to infuriate her, point out that Reagan supported gun control out of racism.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:36:07am

LOL they probably did, Dana, and found it complete bullshit

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Amory Blaine  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:36:09am

New poll: Scott Walker’s approval rating drops to 37%

Gov. Scott Walker’s job approval rating dropped to 37%, even after he left the presidential race, according to the latest poll released Wednesday by the Marquette University Law School.

Walker’s disapproval rating was 59%.

His disapproval rating is the lowest it’s been since Marquette started its polling.

Walker’s presidential run took a toll on his standing at home, with Marquette’s most recent survey showing the governor’s job approval rating at its worst since the school launched its poll three years ago.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:36:42am

Frankly and I apologize if I offend any gun owners here. I am tired of guns. I am tired of the gun culture where you’re considered less of a man or American if you don’t own or like guns. I’m tired of this nonsensical idea that we need guns to protect ourselves against tyranny. and that guns are the only thing preventing our government from turning into Nazi Germany 2.0. I am tired of guns being valued more than humanity.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:38:07am

re: #397 ObserverArt

Ah. Got it. Thanks! Good to hear that it’s not Google. I hope Flash soon becomes as antiquated as floppy disks.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:38:09am

re: #404 HappyWarrior

She’s a modern George Wallace but perhaps even worse since Davis and her supporters actually believe she’s akin to the people Wallace was persecuting.

She’s Kim the Christian, like Joe the Plumber.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:39:48am

re: #411 Higgs Boson’s Mate

She Kim the Christian, like Joe the Plumber.

Yep. Really just do your fucking job or resign. IF she were a Muslim clerk objecting to a liquor store or BBQ restaurant, would anyone especially the Christians who taken up her cause claim that she has the right to deny based on “deeply held religious beliefs.” Kim can believe whatever but that doesn’t change the fact she’s a latter day George Wallace using religion to hide behind the fact she’s a bigoted hypocrite who refuses to do her job.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:39:49am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

Frankly and I apologize if I offend any gun owners here. I am tired of guns. I am tired of the gun culture where you’re considered less of a man or American if you don’t own or like guns. I’m tired of this nonsensical idea that we need guns to protect ourselves against tyranny. and that guns are the only thing preventing our government from turning into Nazi Germany 2.0. I am tired of guns being valued more than humanity.

LOL look at this==>

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:40:37am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:41:20am

re: #413 The Vicious Babushka

LOL look at this==>

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You should ask that conservative moron how many parties Obama has banned. Because I promise you and him that it’s an infinite less amount than Hitler did. I swear, these people, these fucking people infuriate me with how they think they can compare our president to one of the worst monsters in history simply because they can’t accept he’s president and their own bigoted bllshit.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:42:04am

re: #413 The Vicious Babushka

LOL look at this==>

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What’s most appalling is the thought that, somewhere out there, there’s a Robert J. Mackin, Jr.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:42:15am

re: #414 The Vicious Babushka

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NAh you’re not that special asshole. You don’t deserve martyrdom. You deserve to be mocked as a chickenlittle moron who likens himself to real victims of opression to hide behind the fact he’s a conservative coward whose views are reactionary as hell.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:42:46am

re: #416 Higgs Boson’s Mate

What’s most appalling is the thought that, somewhere out there, there’s a Robert J. Mackin, Jr.

Well maybe Jr is smarter than his old man. Idealistic and all that.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:42:56am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

I’m a firearm owner and I’m not offended. I agree with you. I was fortunate enough to be trained by the military how to safely and properly use a firearm. I consider myself to actually be a “responsible gun owner” because of this training and I don’t view a firearm as political stance. My firearms are tools for hunting and for ‘recreation’ (target shooting to improve my hunting).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:43:08am
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Lidane  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:43:41am

*facepalm*

RWNJs are determined to turn this kid into the second coming of Osama bin Laden. WTF.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:44:16am

re: #419 Dr. Matt

I’m a firearm owner and I’m not offended. I agree with you. I was fortunate enough to be trained by the military how to safely and properly use a firearm. I consider myself to actually be a “responsible gun owner” because of this training and I don’t view a firearm as political stance. My firearms are tools for hunting and for ‘recreation’ (target shooting to improve my hunting).

Thanks Matt. I am glad you understand. Although I was not raised with guns, my mother’s father was a hunter for many years and my best friend enjoys target shooting for hobby. Neither are my thing but I respect your choice to engage in what makes you happy but I just resent the lies.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:44:28am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:44:53am

re: #421 Lidane

*facepalm*

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RWNJs are determined to turn this kid into the second coming of Osama bin Laden. WTF.

He was in his high school robotics club. FFS Fox stop trying to smear a fucking kid you fucks.

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jaunte  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:44:53am

re: #421 Lidane

He made his peanut butter and jelly sandwiches… with a KNIFE!!!

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gwangung  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:45:03am

re: #414 The Vicious Babushka

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For pipsqueaks like him?

Heh.

Heh heh heh.

HEHEHEHEHEHEH BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:46:25am

re: #426 gwangung

For pipsqueaks like him?

Heh.

Heh heh heh.

HEHEHEHEHEHEH BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

It would be like building a FEMA camp for cockroaches.

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KGxvi  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:47:01am

re: #406 HappyWarrior

As governor, it was because of racism (Black Panthers showing up at the capitol with guns); as president is was because of the whole “being shot by a crazy man” thing.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:48:00am

re: #427 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It would be like building a FEMA camp for cockroaches.

Wat makes it rich to me is that many of these people have actually defended and applauded rightist dictatorships (not the Nazis) who killed lefitsts. By the way, I’ve been listening to the Kershaw Hitler biography. One of Hitler’s first hates was Social Democrats. Things that make you go hmmm.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:49:19am

re: #428 KGxvi

As governor, it was because of racism (Black Panthers showing up at the capitol with guns); as president is was because of the whole “being shot by a crazy man” thing.

Right and I have to say this, Reagan was a racist. Maybe not in your face like Wallace and the Dixiecrats but more subtle and with a smile. A lot o racial minorities know exactly what kind of man the Gipper really was and it wasn’t just the smiling face that told us about the shining city on the hill. It was of a cynical old racist. Sorry rambling big time here.

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KGxvi  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:49:24am

re: #427 Higgs Boson’s Mate

who needs a FEMA camp for roaches when you can send them to a hotel?

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Nyet  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:49:25am

So the left-wing don’t like the Pope anymore? /

Good.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:50:08am

#421 Lidane:

They want to turn him into Trayvan Martin so that when he gets shot, it’ll be OK.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:51:00am

re: #419 Dr. Matt

Ditto

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Nyet  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:51:12am

re: #47 Dr. Matt

I’m calling 100% bullshit on this story. i) Kim Davis and her fucktard lawyer have zero credibility. ii) I’m not defending the Pope, but seriously, this dude has much more important things to do than meet with someone that refuses to do her job and continues to break the law. iii) These people are attention whores and have been proven to be liars over and over and over. Again, this story is bullshit.

Really?

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KGxvi  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:51:40am

re: #429 HappyWarrior

hell, some of them advocated internment camps for Muslims after 9/11 (some have since moved on to mass deportation). With wingnuts it’s always about projection.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:52:18am

Let me just say this. If Obama was a real honest to God dictator. The Congress would have been dissolved the minute the R’s gained control of the House in 2010 or even earlier. NOt liking a policy doesn’t make it dictatorial. I may think right wing economic policy sucks but it it’s done through the legslature and governor’s pen, it’s not dictatorial. I may disagree like hell with it but it doesn’t mean it’s dictatorial.

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Ojoe  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:52:41am

The Pope or Davis or both could have the power of bi-location.

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Kragar  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:53:45am
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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:53:49am
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Belafon  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:54:23am

#432 Nyet:

So the left-wing don’t like the Pope anymore? /

Good.

Raise your hand if this meeting changed your view on the Pope?

*crickets*

As someone said, he’s a lot better than the previous pope, but he’s still the pope.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:54:29am

re: #430 HappyWarrior

Right and I have to say this, Reagan was a racist. Maybe not in your face like Wallace and the Dixiecrats but more subtle and with a smile. A lot o racial minorities know exactly what kind of man the Gipper really was and it wasn’t just the smiling face that told us about the shining city on the hill. It was of a cynical old racist. Sorry rambling big time here.

Town: Philadelphia Mississippi

Consequential events that happen there that are (somewhat)widely known outside of Mississippi
1. Civil Rights workers killed by KKK, assisted by local/state law enforcement.
2. Ronald RayGun announces Presidential intentions, and in speech the phrase “States Rights” is prominent.

Racial minorities sure connect the dots here. How could you not.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:54:51am

re: #439 Kragar

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What a clown. I bet he’s going to kiss your ass and claim to respect your service and be incredious that any former military member could support Hitler von Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:56:10am

re: #442 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Town: Philadelphia Mississippi

Consequential events that happen there that are (somewhat)widely known outside of Mississippi
1. Civil Rights workers killed by KKK, assisted by local/state law enforcement.
2. Ronald RayGun announces Presidential intentions, and in speech the phrase “States Rights” is prominent.

Racial minorities sure connect the dots here. How could you not.

It was reading about that incident not long after Reagan’s death that made me despise him. I had never been a fan before- he had a lot of stupid quotes like the basis of the New Deal being fascism but doing that was just the worst.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:56:19am

re: #440 wrenchwench

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Carlos is having way too much fun with this.

:D

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:56:42am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:56:57am

re: #439 Kragar

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Robert blocked me. He so scared of Babushka. :(

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Kragar  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:57:09am
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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:57:13am

Jeb! taking care of alienating the Native American vote.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:57:17am

re: #446 darthstar

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And what tribe are you from Jeb?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:58:20am

re: #450 HappyWarrior

And what tribe are you from Jeb?

Faux Knee Tribe.

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Kragar  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:58:28am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:59:02am
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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 10:59:14am

re: #452 Kragar

I think Carson is referring to modern day Germany.

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:00:05am

re: #450 HappyWarrior

And what tribe are you from Jeb?

I follow them!

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:00:38am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

Scott Walker is going back to Wisconsin with the enthusiasm of someone who really wanted a career change but got passed over. Now he’s just depressed that he’ll never be anything more than a fuckup of a governor…and I suspect he’ll resign a la Palin before he gets indicted.

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jaunte  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:00:40am

re: #447 The Vicious Babushka

Robert blocked me. He so scared of Babushka. :(

He’s a delicate flower of southern manhood.

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Nyet  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:01:12am

re: #441 Belafon

#432 Nyet:

Raise your hand if this meeting changed your view on the Pope?

*crickets*

As someone said, he’s a lot better than the previous pope, but he’s still the pope.

Sure, when it’s someone like you or me, who keep the RCC’s regressiveness in mind at all times even when we like the conservative splodey heads caused by Francis, this was to be expected.

Then there are folks who really luuuved them some Pope because they had this vague feeling that he’s some sort of a liberal, a true vicar of Jesus or something in this vein.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:01:39am

re: #452 Kragar

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Well it’s not about “PC”, it’s about being aware of what Nazi Germany was. 6 million Jews dead because of them and millions more Romani, Socialists/Communists, Slavs, etc in their wake. It’s about actually respecting the memory of those who died either fighting the Nazis or were oppressed by the Nazis. I get pissed when shitheads compare Obama to the Nazis because that insults the service of my great uncles and millions of other men like him and the people that died under the Nazis. So go ahead and cry about the “PC police” but be aware that you insult every man, woman, and child who had their life negative impacted by the Nazis when you make these cowardly comparisons.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:01:42am

re: #436 KGxvi

hell, some of them advocated internment camps for Muslims after 9/11 (some have since moved on to mass deportation). With wingnuts it’s always about projection.

Let’s face it; when they finally elect a Real President (And they will, sooner or later) no matter how much that person acts like Augusto Pinochet they will call for the imprisonment of anyone who dares to in any way criticize the President. The Real President’s ascension will be accompanied by demands from the GOP that the 22nd Amendment be repealed.
You read it here first.

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jaunte  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:02:13am
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Kragar  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:02:37am

re: #457 jaunte

He’s a delicate flower of southern manhood.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:03:15am

hmmm…using the Catholic Church’s apparently newfound belief in “religious freedom” I now suspect that any day now they will allow women to become priests, call for easy divorce, and allow abortions all based on their own religious objectors within the Church…

…or may be not. Perhaps the Catholic Church, like all purely man-made institutions, likes to play by the rules that allow it to continue their own ideology and then point out how other people should behave and evolve.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:03:28am

re: #461 jaunte

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And yet here you are Ben running for president. Read actually happened in Nazi Germany you ignorant fuckwad.

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jaunte  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:03:50am

re: #464 HappyWarrior

Mainstreaming stupidity.

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Lidane  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:04:30am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:05:12am

re: #465 jaunte

Mainstreaming stupidity.

I swear, you have no idea who much this stuff infuriates me. I try not to get too mad because when I see policies like those that allow gays to marry or protect them against discrimination likened to the horrors of Nazism. It just infuriates me so much.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:05:27am

re: #461 jaunte

If Ben Carson’s campaign proves nothing further, it has proven that a nearsighted neurosurgeon can gather nuts.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:07:24am

re: #467 HappyWarrior

I swear, you have no idea who much this stuff infuriates me. I try not to get too mad because when I see policies like those that allow gays to marry or protect them against discrimination likened to the horrors of Nazism. It just infuriates me so much.

Comparing anything to Nazism is the height of intellectual laziness and insensitivity. Really the lowest of the low.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:08:11am

re: #469 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Comparing anything to Nazism is the height of intellectual laziness and insensitivity. Really the lowest of the low.

Spoken like a true Nazi!
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:08:27am

re: #469 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Comparing anything to Nazism is the height of intellectual laziness and insensitivity. Really the lowest of the low.

It’s cowardice.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:08:32am

461 jaunte:

Policital correctness didn’t lead to Nazi Germany, Ben. The people embraced it with open arms because it promised better times and gave the population someone to blame for their problems, the Jews.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:12:23am

re: #472 Belafon

461 jaunte:

Policital correctness didn’t lead to Nazi Germany, Ben. The people embraced it with open arms because it promised better times and gave the population someone to blame for their problems, the Jews.

It was the total opposite of PC. Hitle was far from “PC” as you could be. The irony though is guys like Carson have a ton in common with the interwar right.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:25:49am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

The church made my Mom feel like it was her fault that their marriage was over and they were of little to no help to a young mother left with six kids. Our father ran off with another woman and decided that one child was the perfect number of children for him. We continued at Catholic school until Mom couldn’t afford it and I continued on as an altar boy for another two years before seeing the error of my ways. Our leaving the church was our choice, our Mom did nothing to influence our decisions. Every one of us kids turned our backs on the church and not one of us have regretted doing so. Our father remains loyal to the church to this day.

Yet he had no problem abandoning us, fleeing the state and leaving his wife and kids without any means of support. What a Christian.

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Tigger2  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:25:54am

re: #100 darthstar

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Jenner7  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:26:33am

He plays Castiel on Supernatural.

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Jenner7  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:28:55am

Oh balls. I wasn’t paying attention. New thread.

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Tigger2  Sep 30, 2015 • 11:58:21am

re: #393 The Vicious Babushka

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Tigger2  Sep 30, 2015 • 12:02:30pm

re: #413 The Vicious Babushka

LOL look at this==>

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