Video: Michelle Fields and Ben Shapiro Rant About Breitbart “News”

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In the history of right wing US politics, this will go down as one of the most ridiculous meltdowns ever. Behold the sick culture built by Andrew Breitbart; when Ben Shapiro says Andrew Breitbart would have come to Michelle Fields’ defense, he’s hallucinating.

I knew Andrew Breitbart before any of these people, and he would have been right there attacking Michelle Fields with his site’s editors, because what was important to Andrew was power, pure and simple. In my opinion he would have been a huge Donald Trump booster, and anyone who pretends Breitbart would have suddenly discovered his long-lost scruples in Trump’s presence is lying. He had no scruples, and no integrity; Andrew Breitbart was a demagogue totally devoted to gaining power, just like Donald Trump.

This whole mess is enough to make an atheist believe in karma.

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Notice that Shapiro refers to a “discredited website” at one point; Chuck C. Johnson knew exactly who Shapiro was talking about, and freaked right out.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:40:14pm

The revisionism of Andrew Breitbart’s legacy amuses the living hell out of me. You’re absolutely right. He would have been right there with the others and smearing Fields.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:42:42pm

Mrs. Sherrod can speak about Breitbart’s non-bullying ways. Oh wait…

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No Depression  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:47:15pm

DONALD J. TRUMP’S CLASSY SHORT LIST FOR VICE PRESIDENT:

Rudy Giuliani
Kevin O’Leary (My friend from Shark Tank. Tremendous guy!)
Sheriff Joe
Rush Limbaugh
Ted Nugent
Gene Simmons
Pete Rose

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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:48:44pm

re: #3 No Depression

DONALD J. TRUMP’S CLASSY SHORT LIST FOR VICE PRESIDENT:

Rudy Giuliani
Kevin O’Leary (My friend from Shark Tank. Tremendous guy!)
Sheriff Joe
Rush Limbaugh
Ted Nugent
Gene Simmons
Pete Rose

Oh there are a couple other assholes on the list like Louie Gomert, Jody Hice, Glenn Grothman, Mike Lee and why not go full asshole adding James Woods…

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mr.fusion  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:48:46pm

The Trumpenstein has quite literally turned on the good doctor at this point

Next up — pitchforks and torches

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:49:10pm

re: #3 No Depression

DONALD J. TRUMP’S CLASSY SHORT LIST FOR VICE PRESIDENT:

Rudy Giuliani
Kevin O’Leary (My friend from Shark Tank. Tremendous guy!)
Sheriff Joe
Rush Limbaugh
Ted Nugent
Gene Simmons
Pete Rose

No Tom Brady?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:50:52pm

re: #4 Joe Bacon

Oh there are a couple other assholes on the list like Louie Gomert, Jody Hice, Glenn Grothman, Mike Lee and why not go full asshole adding James Woods…

Don’t know Glenn Grothman.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:52:16pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Don’t know Glenn Grothman.

Grothman is out of Wisconsin. He believes in abolishing the 40 hour workweek and making people work all 7 days of the week. He makes Scott Walker look like Bernie Sanders…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:53:06pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon

Grothman is out of Wisconsin. He believes in abolishing the 40 hour workweek and making people work all 7 days of the week. He makes Scott Walker look like Bernie Sanders…

Oh yeah, I do remember him now. I see that he just endorsed Cruz via Nate’s endorsement tracker.

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:53:50pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Their cynical cash-in on their flight from a coven of shit-smearers while proclaiming values they don’t hold, and journalistic ethics they’ve never bothered with, all while carefully lying to make their opponents just a bit more dirty by comparison…that is the most Breitbartian thing of all.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:54:27pm

Did Adolph have a vice chancellor? Did Mussolini have a vice Duce?

Trump’s ten times the man those losers were. He doesn’t need some wimp-ass Vice President. That’s only for losers.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:55:35pm

re: #11 Skip Intro

Did Adolph have a vice chancellor? Did Mussolini have a vice Duce?

Trump’s ten times the man those losers were. He doesn’t need some wimp-ass Vice President. That’s only for losers.

Yes, Hitler did have a deputy fueher. Don’t know too much about Mussolini.

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Mich-again  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:56:46pm

Not everyone will understand the analogy, but this is just like watching crawfish in a bucket.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:59:26pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:05:04pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

Yes, Hitler did have a deputy fueher. Don’t know too much about Mussolini.

And you know what that guy did, right? That was the last time Hitler made that mistake.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:07:09pm

re: #15 Skip Intro

And you know what that guy did, right? That was the last time Hitler made that mistake.

Yep. Hess’s trip to the UK. Still amazes me that I was on the planet granted for only a month the same time he was.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:08:05pm

Trump will run his own penis as VP. You heard it here first.

And LOL at Chucksie being upset about his website described as “discredited”. It’s a matter of official court record that he’s not a journalist and he doesn’t post or report true things!

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Mich-again  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:11:40pm

So did Ben Shapiro flounce or did the Breitbart bus plunge?

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:13:49pm

re: #18 Mich-again

Both. Neither. Derp is a flat circle.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:17:27pm

re: #11 Skip Intro

Did Adolph have a vice chancellor? Did Mussolini have a vice Duce?

Trump’s ten times the man those losers were. He doesn’t need some wimp-ass Vice President. That’s only for losers.

I think the most likely result of this is Trump winning the nomination and picking someone more ‘establishment’ as VP, possibly even Christie. This gives both he and the RNC what they want - he gets to be taken seriously by them and they come crawling to him just like Christie, and they get someone on the ticket that all the Republicans who hate Trump can justify voting for so they can all vote together again against Hillary.

Then, when they win, Trump is likely to do something actually criminal within 6-12 months, the Republican Party can impeach, and they get the President they wanted all along.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:20:44pm

re: #20 Renaissance_Man

Speaking of Governor half ton:

philly.com

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:21:16pm

re: #20 Renaissance_Man

Trump will pick a VP that makes assassination an unappetizing option.

Though at this point, I wouldn’t be shocked by a TRUMP / HUGE AWESOME TITS 2017 run

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bratwurst  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:22:18pm

VERY glad the political ads will mostly go away here in Illinois for a few months by this time tomorrow.

I say mostly because the fearful Senator Kirk is already running attack ads on Tammy Duckworth, even before she has officially won the nomination to run against him. Those aren’t going anywhere, and will likely pick up if it becomes clear Trump is the nominee.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:23:36pm

re: #23 bratwurst

VERY glad the political ads will mostly go away here in Illinois for a few months by this time tomorrow.

I say mostly because the fearful Senator Kirk is already running attack ads on Tammy Duckworth, even before she has officially won the nomination to run against him.

Do you think the odds are good she beats him? He clearly does sound quite afraid if he’s already running attack ads.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:25:22pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

I mean I prefer heroes with legs. But that’s just me.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:25:43pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Do you think the odds are good she beats him? He clearly does sound quite afraid if he’s already running attack ads.

Groups supporting him have already attacked her for, get this, “not standing up for veterans.” Yep, they’re afraid of her.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:25:44pm

re: #25 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I mean I prefer heroes with legs. But that’s just me.

Ha nice reference.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:26:20pm

re: #26 Belafon

Groups supporting him have already attacked her for, get this, “not standing up for veterans.” Yep, they’re afraid of her.

I did see that. Shades of Walsh mocking her. Fuckers. They should be afraid of her. She’s everything that they’re not when it comes to service.

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bratwurst  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:26:37pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Do you think the odds are good she beats him? He clearly does sound quite afraid if he’s already running attack ads.

As is so often the case, it will come down to turnout. If a chance to vote against Trump drives a lot of people to the polls in November, she will be in good shape.

Naturally, this would be a YUUUGE pickup in the effort to reclaim the Senate.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:27:13pm

re: #29 bratwurst

As is so often the case, it will come down to turnout. If a chance to vote against Trump drives a lot of people to the polls in November, she will be in good shape.

Naturally, this would be a YUUUGE pickup in the effort to reclaim the Senate.

Yeah it would be a step in the right direction. I like her odds.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:28:33pm

BTW off topic but I was suctioning the phlegm out of a guy’s trach tube today and I got to wondering where all this phlegm winds up. I figger there must be reservoir somewhere where all the stuff from the in house vacuum winds up.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:29:23pm

re: #31 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

BTW off topic but I was suctioning the phlegm out of a guy’s trach tube today and I got to wondering where all this phlegm winds up. I figger there must be reservoir somewhere where all the stuff from the in house vacuum winds up.

You really ought to mention that around lunch or dinner time.

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:29:34pm

re: #31 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Well, first the phlegm gets a break writing for Breitbart News….

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:30:30pm

re: #31 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Gag.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:30:43pm

People mustn’t forget the extensive documentation of Bretbart’s horrendous disgusting comments section here at LGF. It’s one of the more awful aspects of that tire fire of an enterprise, that their business model is to incite hatred and fear in its readers, resulting in the most vile base shit on the internet.

Their full-on meltdown couldn’t have happened to nicer people.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:31:46pm

re: #31 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

The linguistic boundary between Phlegms and Walloons is minutely demarcated by law and passes roughly east-west across north-central Belgium on a line just south of the capital city, Brussels. North of the line, all public signs and government publications must be in Dutch, which has official status. The same situation prevails for French south of the line. In Brussels, which is officially bilingual, all signs and publications must be in both languages.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:31:46pm

re: #34 retired cynic

I will find out. And when I do…

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A Cranky One  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:32:31pm

re: #31 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

BTW off topic but I was suctioning the phlegm out of a guy’s trach tube today and I got to wondering where all this phlegm winds up. I figger there must be reservoir somewhere where all the stuff from the in house vacuum winds up.

It ends up on Rience Priebus’s twitter feed.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:33:30pm

Donald Trump hair gel.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:34:59pm

JERK STORE!

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jonhendry  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:35:48pm

re: #3 No Depression

DONALD J. TRUMP’S CLASSY SHORT LIST FOR VICE PRESIDENT:

Rudy Giuliani
Kevin O’Leary (My friend from Shark Tank. Tremendous guy!)
Sheriff Joe
Rush Limbaugh
Ted Nugent
Gene Simmons
Pete Rose

Nah, it’ll probably be one of his kids.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:37:52pm

re: #41 jonhendry

He’ll think Omarossa will help him get black voters.

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:39:08pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

Eh, this is really a re-structuring, not a collapse. Both the leavers and the remainder are still getting paid, and still getting hits by being hateful motherfuckers. Each might get a smaller market share, but the wound isn’t fatal to either cojoined fuckbake. They’ll split the rage-filled priapic monkey demographic until the election is done, then get on-side again, because deep down the “better” parties still hate most of the same people.

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insert_funny  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:40:03pm

Really not sure whom to root for in this pissing match. So I’ll just drink instead.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:40:32pm

A rather unorthodox way of conducting avalanche control. I’m pretty sure those are fireworks.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:41:08pm

re: #3 No Depression

DONALD J. TRUMP’S CLASSY SHORT LIST FOR VICE PRESIDENT:

Rudy Giuliani
Kevin O’Leary (My friend from Shark Tank. Tremendous guy!)
Sheriff Joe
Rush Limbaugh
Ted Nugent
Gene Simmons
Pete Rose

At this point I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he named David Duke.

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jsrtheta  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:42:25pm

“Unscathed”? I think all of them have been “scathed” beyond recognition by now.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:42:40pm

re: #44 insert_funny

Really not sure whom to root for in this pissing match. So I’ll just drink instead.

How about a pyrrhic victory for either/or?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:46:43pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

a) Yep. I wonder if they are cheaper/easier to get than the ordinance commonly used here in the US?

b) That escape route up the ski lift pole …dude, just no.

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TedStriker  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:50:58pm

re: #44 insert_funny

Really not sure whom to root for in this pissing match. So I’ll just drink instead.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:53:56pm

re: #49 klys (maker of Silmarils)

b) That escape route up the ski lift pole …dude, just no.

They had almost 20 seconds to get all personnel on the ladder. Those dudes got a great shot of adrenaline and had a lot of fun, I guarantee that. Snow sports are rather weird that way, trying to find “the edge.”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:53:59pm

Pretty hilarious to see all these rotten scumbags trying to pretend only they know what the great and powerful Andrew Breitbart would have done, as if that dishonest sleazeball was a person to admire.

The Rage Furby obviously read this post.

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:56:03pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

That’s about the most sincere I’ve seen him write. He might actually believe that. edit: (snork)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:57:12pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

They had almost 20 seconds to get all personnel on the ladder. Those dudes got a great shot of adrenaline and had a lot of fun, I guarantee that. Snow sports are rather weird that way, trying to find “the edge.”

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Oh I know it had to have been planned, because they would have had to move as soon as the initial firework went off in order for them to all make it up there.

I am just not an adrenaline junkie. I like snow very much. I like it best when I can sit by a roaring fire and stitch while it falls outside and then I can go out the next day and snowshoe and take pictures.

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jonhendry  Mar 14, 2016 • 8:58:09pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Pretty hilarious to see all these rotten scumbags trying to pretend only they know what the great and powerful Andrew Breitbart would have done, as if that dishonest sleazeball was a person to admire.

The Rage Furby obviously read this post.

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Breitbart’s last words to Johnson: “You did what???!?!?!?!?”

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:00:27pm

He sounds almost human.

WTF is he doing in Plano? I thought I felt a disturbance in the Force…

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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:00:43pm

re: #3 No Depression

Can’t be Kevin O’Leary. He’s Canadian and possibly running for the leadership of Canada’s Conservative party. Which would pretty much guarantee at least one Trudeau re-election. Likely two.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:05:14pm

re: #56 Pawn of the Oppressor

He sounds almost human.

WTF is he doing in Plano? I thought I felt a disturbance in the Force…

I think he’s visiting family. Or maybe hoping for a job with Cruz.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:06:29pm

Charles, you’ve got a cast iron constitution when it comes to running a website. I admire you for that, you don’t take any guff from fucking swine.

I have to say this whole Charles “Icarus” vs. UpChuck thing is fascinating and quite strange. I’ve watched pretty much the whole saga unfold and I applaud your effort to keep the name Charles Johnson on the up-and-up, and as a Charles, you’re doing good work for Charlies everywhere.

Fascinating and quite strange. I can’t even imagine what it must be like for you. Fuck it, UpChuck is wholly discredited and he’ll forever be known on the internet as a guy who pooped on his dorm room floor.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:10:46pm

Charles makes media history (Dan Rather memo, best-selling Jazz records, etc).
Chucksie makes media shit stories (floor shitting, fake rape).

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:11:57pm

People would complain that Charles would post articles about UpChuck and his malfeasance. They’d ask him to just ignore him. You won’t be complaining when UpChuck gets arrested or ends up on the lam and/or plotting numerous felonies with weev in eastern Europe.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:18:38pm

This is one of the biggest bummers in all of skiing. Ski areas in New England got absolutely hosed in terms of snowfall this year, right after the record-breaking 2014-15 season.

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Jenner7  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:19:29pm

Thank you, Charles, for the new feature. :)

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:23:48pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

This is one of the biggest bummers in all of skiing. Ski areas in New England got absolutely hosed in terms of snowfall this year, right after the record-breaking 2014-15 season.

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My brother in law and his fiancee have had a time share in Killington for five years. They said this has been the worst season since they’ve had the house.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:28:14pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Pretty hilarious to see all these rotten scumbags trying to pretend only they know what the great and powerful Andrew Breitbart would have done, as if that dishonest sleazeball was a person to admire.

The Rage Furby obviously read this post.

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For once, that rotten human being said something that makes some degree of sense.

Must be a legacy argument, formed before the drinking and hate addled his brain as thoroughly as they have since done , and then given a minor update before posting.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:32:50pm

re: #58 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I think he’s visiting family. Or maybe hoping for a job with Cruz.

If one wanted to neutralize Ted Cruz for a day or two, one could simply give him links to the legal idiocy from Chuckles and his lawyer concerning the legal matters he’s gotten enmeshed in. After reading the pathetic excuses for a legal brief delivered by CCJ’s lawyer, Ted Cruz would laugh so hard for so long he’s lose his voice for a day and a half.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:35:35pm

i think it’s commendable that trump supporters today were well isolated from normal people

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:36:20pm

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

For once, that rotten human being said something that makes some degree of sense.

Must be a legacy argument, formed before the drinking and hate addled his brain as thoroughly as they have since done , and then given a minor update before posting.

A momentary lapse. He’s offering to share all communications he’s had with Fields with law enforcement — who don’t need it or want it — and I’m sure he reviewing all his communications with Shapiro to try to discredit him, as well.

What I don’t get is why bother? He’s got no skin in this game. Trump is not his favored candidate. He doesn’t work for Breitbart anymore. It’s basically not his affair.

Aside from trying to attract attention, I can’t figure why Rage Furby is even bothering with this story.

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Lidane  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:36:46pm

Heh.

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:38:37pm

re: #68 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s it: to be noticed.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:39:40pm

re: #70 retired cynic

That’s it: to be noticed.

No one is returning his calls, though. haha

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:42:24pm

re: #69 Lidane

Heh.

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I can imagine an image of The Two Towers, with Chicago’s Trump Tower substituting for Orthanc, the stone tower of Isengard .

How does one saying “Make America great again!” in the Black Speech of Mordor?

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:44:10pm

re: #70 retired cynic

That’s it: to be noticed.

That’s most of it, but its also that this allows Soulless Ginger to go on the attack against Michelle Fields, thus allowing him to indulge his foul misogyny.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:44:23pm

re: #68 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

A momentary lapse. He’s offering to share all communications he’s had with Fields with law enforcement — who don’t need it or want it — and I’m sure he reviewing all his communications with Shapiro to try to discredit him, as well.

What I don’t get is why bother? He’s got no skin in this game. Trump is not his favored candidate. He doesn’t work for Breitbart anymore. It’s basically not his affair.

Aside from trying to attract attention, I can’t figure why Rage Furby is even bothering with this story.

I think he relishes every opportunity he gets to insult a woman even if it’s a woman who may share a lot of his worldview like Ms. Fields.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:49:48pm

if thrumpf doesnt win ohio theyll nominate kasich in cleveland

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:51:02pm
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Lidane  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:51:52pm

Pretty much the only way that Marco will win Florida:

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:53:32pm

kasich has got the nod from the powerz that be in the gop

i cant wait to hear the trumpsters screeem

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 14, 2016 • 9:59:53pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I think he relishes every opportunity he gets to insult a woman even if it’s a woman who may share a lot of his worldview like Ms. Fields.

His last post dwelled on the tight connections/friendship among Fields, Weinstein (Daily Caller), Terris (WaPo) and Benny Johnson (Blaze), suggesting collusion among the four to exploit GrabGate to tarnish Trump. But mostly I think Chuck is angry because he’s not one of the cool kids, not part of that little clique, as it were.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 14, 2016 • 10:04:34pm

re: #68 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He’s a professional troll who lives to stick his dick in people’s mashed potatoes. Double bonus points if he can hurt a woman and grift some cash. That’s what gets him off. It’s not rational, it’s his nature.

As I’m fond of saying about him: If he were being executed, he’d laugh all the way to the noose, as long as he got to spit on the crowd.

(I may have to adjust that idea, as actual death seems to upset him.)

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weave  Mar 14, 2016 • 10:10:17pm

re: #76 goddamnedfrank

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Regarding Trump’s free fall on general….

Here’s my hope…. He wins Florida and Ohio before people wise up, and force this into a brokered convention. Then it’s pretty much a sure thing the GOP will railroad him out of the nomination. That will be enough to make Trump’s supporters stay home in November — which should help Democrats on downticket races as well.

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2016 • 10:12:15pm

re: #81 weave

Regarding Trump’s free fall on general….

Here’s my hope…. He wins Florida and Ohio before people wise up, and force this into a brokered convention. Then it’s pretty much a sure thing the GOP will railroad him out of the nomination. That will be enough to make Trump’s supporters stay home in November — which should help Democrats on downticket races as well.

Sounds like a plan. Fingers crossed.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 14, 2016 • 10:15:21pm

Researchers have found an ancestor of Tyrannosuarus Rex from the middle Cretaceous that helps explains how T. Rex got to be so yoooge.

Dinosaur find resolves T-Rex mystery
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The ancestor was about the size of a horse, but shares many of the anatomical features of the later species we know so well.

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BeachDem  Mar 14, 2016 • 10:16:34pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Yep. Hess’s trip to the UK. Still amazes me that I was on the planet granted for only a month the same time he was.

An interesting fictional tale about Hess and Spandau prison—it’s long, and sometimes rambles, but I really liked it:

Spandau Phoenix by Greg Iles

Long but largely rewarding first thriller in which the apparent suicide of imprisoned Nazi Rudolf Hess sets the KGB, the Stasi, the CIA, Israelis, South Africans, and the Berlin police to chasing each other and some embarrassing papers—which may or may not have been written by Mr. Hess, who may or may not have been Mr. Hess. It’s the late 80’s, and the cracks in the Eastern bloc are just starting to show. Berlin is still controlled by the WW II Allied powers, who’ve spent millions to keep Hess locked up in Spandau Prison. It was Hess who made the mysterious flight to England at the beginning of the war, supposedly to seek a separate peace through negotiations with sympathetic aristocrats. Now, the prisoner has hung himself. Or has he? He’s certainly dead, but it may have been murder. There has always been doubt about his identity—and the Russians have always been strangely adamant about paroling the old fascist. Then, as Spandau is being razed, Hans Apfel, a young German policeman, finds a hidden sheaf of papers written in Latin by the old prisoner, a document that, if released, will prove immensely embarrassing to a number of people, including the British royal family, a good hunk of the British aristocracy, and far too many German policemen on both sides of the Iron Curtain.

amazon.com

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2016 • 10:23:14pm

re: #81 weave

Regarding Trump’s free fall on general….

Here’s my hope…. He wins Florida and Ohio before people wise up, and force this into a brokered convention. Then it’s pretty much a sure thing the GOP will railroad him out of the nomination. That will be enough to make Trump’s supporters stay home in November — which should help Democrats on downticket races as well.

I’m kind of done with trying to figure out the best GOP scenario, because at this point whichever way the process plays out and whoever ends up the nominee the whole thing is guaranteed to be an absolute shit show. Trump will almost certainly consider a brokered convention to be a violation of the GOP’s agreement and go third party, and the doors are closing for anybody else to win outright or beat him in the delegate count going in.

Just going to sit back, work on electing Democrats while watching the GOP tire fire smolder in the background.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 14, 2016 • 10:23:23pm

re: #84 BeachDem

Free association at work here.

Spandau Ballet - True

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2016 • 10:23:33pm

I got new skis, as some of you may have heard. They’re beauties!

Instagram

New skis! @WagnerCustom traditional camber, early rise tip, 137-99-121 dimensions. Oh yeah!

Today I removed the alpine (fixed heel) bindings and mounted metal plates to the skis that accept my telemark binding, this bastard:

I had to thank the binding manufacturer on Twitter for the metal plates. These folks make an amazing freeheel clamp.

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Viscous Obama  Mar 14, 2016 • 10:58:42pm

The National Review figures it out

Yet millions of Americans aren’t doing their best. Indeed, they’re barely trying. As I’ve related before, my church in Kentucky made a determined attempt to reach kids and families that were falling between the cracks, and it was consistently astounding how little effort most parents and their teen children made to improve their lives. If they couldn’t find a job in a few days — or perhaps even as little as a few hours — they’d stop looking. If they got angry at teachers or coaches, they’d drop out of school. If they fought with their wife, they had sex with a neighbor. And always — always — there was a sense of entitlement.

Read more at: nationalreview.com

SEX WITH NEIGHBORS

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 14, 2016 • 11:06:42pm

re: #88 Viscous Obama

The National Review figures it out

SEX WITH NEIGHBORS

It is the end of civilization as we know it. Next, dogs will be making friends with cats, and billionaire con artists will be running for president of the USA.

/

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Viscous Obama  Mar 14, 2016 • 11:12:51pm

I knew liberals were behind Pastor Bob fornicating with the choir!

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 11:25:01pm

re: #88 Viscous Obama

NRO are indulging in their own preferred “stab-in-the-back” myth, where God and Capitalism and Right-Thinking Republicans are doing their damnedest to Jerb Create, but those filthy proles just aren’t motivated and are secretly liberals. The secret liberals all through rural Kentucky.

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 11:25:01pm

Dammit.

Critical Hamster Error caused a double post.

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Viscous Obama  Mar 14, 2016 • 11:29:17pm

Oh I’ll just leave this here

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 14, 2016 • 11:37:19pm

re: #93 Viscous Obama

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Trump owns Christie’s soul and he lets him know all the time

Trump has him by the b…
Never mind.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 14, 2016 • 11:56:04pm

re: #91 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

NRO are indulging in their own preferred “stab-in-the-back” myth, where God and Capitalism and Right-Thinking Republicans are doing their damnedest to Jerb Create, but those filthy proles just aren’t motivated and are secretly liberals. The secret liberals all through rural Kentucky.

No, that’s not it at all. The writer was defending Kevin D. Williamson’s contention that many white working-class people who are in a bad position bear a large share of the blame for their predicament. It’s not “pull yourself up by your bootstraps”, it’s more “Barack Obama didn’t make you take oxycotin, and neither did Charles and David Koch. You made that bad decision yourself, so stop blaming others and work to turn your life around. Because Donald Trump can’t fix your lack of effort, no matter how much you cheer him.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 15, 2016 • 12:30:12am

These NR things, and a number of other columns, blog posts, etc. all discuss the same thing from a number of different angles. Josh Marshall may have put it best in saying that the people who are no killing themselves slowly with booze or opioids, or quickly with other means, are the ones who most heavily depended on white privilege. That is, without white privilege to give them the leg up to get those manufacturing and other jobs that have dried up, they find themselves where everyone else has always been.

Now many find themselves trapped where there are no jobs, unsure where to go next, and having little in the way of marketable skills to get them a job anywhere else. And guess what! They get worn out and worn down by the experience - just enough to live on but not enough to do more than exist. And when you’re in that state, you’re tired all the time, you have no energy, no patience, no stamina. Of course they give up looking for jobs quickly - they have not lived lives full of rejection.

They end up replicating all the vices they see as peculiar to Blacks and Latinos, after years of shouting ‘Get a job!’, and ‘Why don’t they just try harder?’

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 15, 2016 • 12:36:58am

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

No, that’s not it at all. The writer was defending Kevin D. Williamson’s contention that many white working-class people who are in a bad position bear a large share of the blame for their predicament. It’s not “pull yourself up by your bootstraps”, it’s more “Barack Obama didn’t make you take oxycotin, and neither did Charles and David Koch. You made that bad decision yourself, so stop blaming others and work to turn your life around. Because Donald Trump can’t fix your lack of effort, no matter how much you cheer him.”

Ironically, there’s a way in which he’s right. They kept voting for the GOP, because the Dems were giving ‘Free stuff’ to Those People. But the GOP’s economic policies have always been about enriching the rich at everyone else’s expense, about disempowering labor to advantage capital. They’ve pushed the idea that if you’re a GOOD person, you’ll be a PROSPEROUS person. And the folks we’re talking about, the working class white folks, the ‘Reagan Democrats’, believed their economic position, ahead of blacks and others, was something they EARNED.

Well, it turns out it wasn’t. And when capital finally got enough leverage, thanks to the Reagan Democrats, it bent labor over and reamed the living hell out of it.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 15, 2016 • 12:41:13am

re: #68 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Aside from trying to attract attention, I can’t figure why Rage Furby is even bothering with this story.

That’s really all the reason he needs.

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Alyosha  Mar 15, 2016 • 12:42:31am

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

But those who see having an abortion as their only shot at a decent life ought to be hanged?
I don’t really care for an appreciation of what counts for nuance in Kevin D. Williamson’s universe.

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 15, 2016 • 12:49:13am

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, as a Kentuckian who has to directly deal with the oxy problem, I’m flipping Mr Williamson and anybody that agrees with him the bird.

(on top of the middle finger perpetually pointed at Mr Williamson for his nasty abortion politics)

Know where the oxy problem came from?

Coal miners getting injured and having to work in spite of it, because the rigged labor system in coal country means there’s always a bigger labor pool than a demand, so people get chucked for no reason. There’s a very specific set of injuries you see in coal country. Lumbar disc problems. Constant pain, on top of constant pressure to stay upright, because there are no desk jobs. Along comes a medicine that’s advertised as non-addictive—remember those days, Dark?—pain relief, and you can get pills on your health plan real easy (but not physical therapy…not there’s a lot of physical therapy studios about).

Pretty soon everybody’s jacked up and injured, and has a monkey on their back from the non-addictive(!) opioids that they can’t shake. And then the mountain you’re working is dropped down to nothing, so the jobs move elsewhere and you’ve still got pain and addiction. Ever been face to face with that? Because I deal with it every day. People who want a job that I don’t have to give: anything—chores, yard work, cleaning, anything. Fuck, I got family fucked up by oxy, and it’s always the same story: get an chronic injury, keep working, end up with the addiction,get properly crippled, then get shit rained on you for being a junkie.

Hooray! Right to work! Hooray! Reducing safety standards! Hooray! Nobody’s checking the OSHA credentials of the work site! Farm and mine labor never cripples anyone!

But, as pretty much always, your “explanation” demonstrates how little you care and how little you know, and yet you can ramp up the fucking umbrage about people fucking “not trying” by your high and mighty fucking standards. A pretty good measure of your basic comprehension fail is that your exposition to me doesn’t actually cancel out my statement, it simply triangulates: oh, the whole shit pile is so much better because Mr. Hang Sluts is heaping shit on those nasty Trump people…therefore I should ignore the cliche, emotional-manipulative anecdote-excreta that passes for an argument.

You are the fucking problem. You are the substrate from which those people you despise grow. The policies you like pushed them to that level of desperation. The culture you unwittingly propagate like typhoid is what makes them angry and ignorant.

Actually, just fuck off. Fuck right off with your tedious judgemental whinge. You’ve been nowhere, experienced nothing, and you just repeat shit other people say. You’re a fucking bunker-dwelling whiner. I’m done with you and your fake nice and your fake toughness and utterly unthinking bleating.

And go fuck yourself especially for that little tingle you get imagining you’re smarter than the desperate people that want Trump to fix things. At least they’re smart enough to notice they got scammed. You’re still selling Amway and getting your fucking Republican thetans checked.

You’re not the better man because you’re running a Reagan era wingnut operating system, and just haven’t hit the fucking “update” button.

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Nyet  Mar 15, 2016 • 12:58:21am

And now some sad, silly child is promoting Shaun King’s hallucinations at dKos, even getting on the wreck list:

MORE: HRC Wants To Shut Up Shaun King, As Mass Insurrection vs. Crony Capitalism Grows Ever Stronger

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 1:37:32am

re: #88 Viscous Obama

it was consistently astounding how little effort most parents and their teen children made to improve their lives. If they couldn’t find a job in a few days — or perhaps even as little as a few hours — they’d stop looking. If they got angry at teachers or coaches, they’d drop out of school. If they fought with their wife, they had sex with a neighbor.

…and if they are the least bit annoyed with someone’s behavior, they assault that person with fists or even a weapon…and then claim they were provoked.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 1:49:41am

re: #11 Skip Intro

Did Adolph have a vice chancellor? Did Mussolini have a vice Duce?

Trump’s ten times the man those losers were. He doesn’t need some wimp-ass Vice President. That’s only for losers.

Excellent point. So, it seems he would need to pick a nonthreatening acolyte. Someone who debases themselves to serve Trump. Christi and Palin have already demonstrated their fealty. Carson too. They have all rolled over to have their tummies tickled by Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 2:00:32am

re: #103 Ming5000

Excellent point. So, it seems he would need to pick a nonthreatening acolyte. Someone who debases themselves to serve Trump. Christi and Palin have already demonstrated their fealty. Carson too. They have all rolled over to have their tummies tickled by Trump.

I think even Trump has enough sense not to pick Ben Carson for VP. Make him Secretary of Agriculture, he knows a lot about storing grain.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 2:03:34am

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

I’m kind of done with trying to figure out the best GOP scenario, because at this point whichever way the process plays out and whoever ends up the nominee the whole thing is guaranteed to be an absolute shit show. ….

Just going to sit back, work on electing Democrats while watching the GOP tire fire smolder in the background.

Agree. All GOP scenarios are dangerous to the Republic. Nobody, I mean nobody, in the GOP makes a lick of sense right now. The RNC Chair is Reince Priebus. All nominees are whack.
Congress has been a basket case since day 1 of Obama’s term. Luckily we had two years of Dem control. Since then the Congress has actively worked against the best interests of the USA. The most recent example is the Supreme Court process. Unless they voted to repeal the ACA again recently.
So, I do not contemplate GOP scenarios since they all suck. We gotta get HRC (hopefully) or Bernie into the White House.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 2:09:33am

re: #105 Ming5000

I am not terribly worried. Trump gets the nomination, GOP goes down in flames, loses a lot of Congressional districts as well. Trump loses nomination in contested convention, a lot of Trump followers quit the GOP in disgust and stay home in November.

Only thing that could give Trump a big boost would be some natural and/or man-made catastrophe, especially a terror attack, that results in a loss of services over a broad area or for a large population. Especially if the government has to declare a state of emergency or declare martial law to deal with it.

That sort of thing would play right into DT’s hands.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 2:13:32am

re: #88 Viscous Obama

So the church’s answer is to stop? If the effort was deemed worthy in the first place perhaps some more thought could be applied to successfully address the root causes and effect solutions.
Maybe their church wasn’t doing it right? Perhaps the root causes themselves were not identified and targeted? Maybe it was too little too late? Maybe the church members should support an overall plan including all citizens, races (somehow I think the church was white), and religions.

If they couldn’t find a job in a few days — or perhaps even as little as a few hours — they’d stop looking. If they got angry at teachers or coaches, they’d drop out of school.

If the church members could’nt fix the deep rooted problems in a short time — or perhaps really short time — they’d stop trying. If they got angry at the people they wanted to help, they say fuck ‘em.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 2:19:23am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I think even Trump has enough sense not to pick Ben Carson for VP. Make him Secretary of Agriculture, he knows a lot about storing grain.

Hmm.. I could see Trump making Carson VP. Carson still has a halo among the part of the base that doesn’t support Trump, yet is a nonthreatening entity. Very Hess-like. Good for funerals and other ceremonial functions. Good optics.

I forgot Omarosa. But, she is more of a street fighter. Maybe he would put her at FBI or HSA.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 2:25:56am

re: #108 Ming5000

Hmm.. I could see Trump making Carson VP. Carson still has a halo among the part of the base that doesn’t support Trump, yet is a nonthreatening entity. Very Hess-like. Good for funerals and other ceremonial functions. Good optics.

I forgot Omarosa. But, she is more of a street fighter. Maybe he would put her at FBI or HSA.

Unfortunatley, a lot of DT’s base seems to have trouble with people of color…

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 2:29:12am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Unfortunatley, a lot of DT’s base seems to have trouble with people of color…

He has to think general election soon. I think VP pick comes after clinching the nomination.
The base will get what Trump is doing. ~wink~

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 2:32:54am

About VP selection timing: wiki

Historically, running mates were chosen by political parties in consultation with the principal candidate. In the late 1960s, it became the practice of the principal candidate in presidential elections to announce his preferred choice of running mate at his political party’s national convention. The current practice is for the presumptive nominee of a political party to announce his or her choice for running mate before the national convention which, because of the extensive primary election and caucus system, is becoming increasingly irrelevant.

Wikipedia may have to edit this entry after this GOP cycle.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 2:35:10am

re: #111 Ming5000

About VP selection timing: wiki

Wikipedia may have to edit this entry after this GOP cycle.

Just watching the Ken Burns documentary on the Roosevelts, seems that Teddy Roosevelt was “kicked upstairs” and given the VP slot to get him out of New York state, where he was being a bit of a gadfly to local machine politicians.

Then McKinley was assassinated…

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 2:37:26am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Aargh. Thanks. Another nightmare Trump scenario to be added to the mix.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 2:50:20am

It seems like Kasich is getting a lot of backwash over not dropping out among both Trump and anti-Trump camps.

From Anti-Trump

From RS: For both candidates, the outlook is frankly grim even if they win their home states. Rubio, at least, is smart enough to know it. He’s cancelled all ad buys after Florida and seems to know that he is in this for one and only one purpose, which is to keep 99 delegates out of the hands of Trump. Even if he succeeds, it would not surprise me in the least to see him drop out shortly after Florida. Rubio knows that a four-man field is a gift to Trump and unlike Kasich, he loves America more than he loves himself.

From Pre-Trump: (not going to link)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 3:09:26am

re: #114 Ming5000

It seems like Kasich is getting a lot of backwash over not dropping out among both Trump and anti-Trump camps.

Kasich has to stay in the race to be a viable candidate in a floor fight.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 15, 2016 • 3:21:34am

Feel free to bring this up the next time some gunfucker says the police won’t end up shooting the ‘good guy with a gun’ during an active shooter situation:

Police: Officer killed by friendly fire, brothers recorded ambush

WASHINGTON — Brothers of a Prince George’s County man with a history of mental illness took video of their brother as he opened fire on a police station, police officers and passing vehicles Sunday — an onslaught that killed an undercover detective, who was inadvertently shot by another responding officer.

Prince George’s County Officer Jacai Colson arrived to the District III police station in Landover in the middle of the barrage. He stepped out of his unmarked police car and immediately began to fire at the shooter, drawing him away from the other officers and allowing them to find better positions to disable 22-year-old Michael DeAndre Ford. But amid the chaos, Colson was hit, said Police Chief Hank Stawinksi, who called Colson’s actions heroic.

Investigators believe that the “round that led to Detective Colson’s death” came from another Prince George’s County officer responding to the active shooter.

Stawinski said that Colson, an undercover narcotics officer, was not wearing body armor and was dressed in civilian clothes. Investigators don’t yet know whether the other officers believed Colson might have been a suspect or whether Colson was caught in the crossfire. Investigators don’t yet know which officer fired the shot. Four officers in total fired rounds. Two others responded but didn’t fire any shots.

wtop.com

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Nojay UK  Mar 15, 2016 • 3:23:30am

It is to the GOP’s benefit for all of the remaining remotely-viable candidates to stay in the race for as long as possible. If they drop out some of their supporters will shift to Trump. If they all stay in, it’s unlikely any of them will be in first place at the convention but Trump might not have a plurality of delegates and the back-room boys can get to work twisting arms and handing out lollipops.

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Nyet  Mar 15, 2016 • 3:41:06am

Kevin “let’s hang the women doing abortions” Williamson knows something about right-wing authoritarianism.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:13:29am

re: #116 Timothy Watson

Feel free to bring this up the next time some gunfucker says the police won’t end up shooting the ‘good guy with a gun’ during an active shooter situation:

wtop.com

And, this is the officer who was slain by friendly fire.
Jacai Colson, a four-year veteran of the force

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:17:21am

re: #116 Timothy Watson

Feel free to bring this up the next time some gunfucker says the police won’t end up shooting the ‘good guy with a gun’ during an active shooter situation:

wtop.com

If you want to defend your home or your family with a gun, then that is your right.

But this incident shows that in a public setting, even skilled and trained officers can make deadly mistakes.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:22:32am

I was listening to a Sam Harris podcast with Douglas Murray. Murray said something like, “People do not change due to reason. They only change due to acts.” Murray made the statement a few days after the Paris attacks and in the context of the rate of change in the West regarding the threat of Islamism and Jihadism.

This idea that acts can cause people to change their standing on issues when reason never could is making me hopeful in the light of the GOP, the violence, and their civil war. Could some people wake up the the threats posed by their brand of extremism?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:25:28am

re: #121 Ming5000

Could some people wake up the the threats posed by their brand of extremism?

Yes, while other grow even more entrenched and intractable in their extremism.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:27:19am

re: #3 No Depression

DONALD J. TRUMP’S CLASSY SHORT LIST FOR VICE PRESIDENT:

Rudy Giuliani
Kevin O’Leary (My friend from Shark Tank. Tremendous guy!)
Sheriff Joe
Rush Limbaugh
Ted Nugent
Gene Simmons
Pete Rose

ALL LOW ENERGY LOSERS, EVERY ONE! TRUMP WILL BE HIS OWN VICE PRESIDENT!!!!!1

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:35:31am

re: #117 Nojay UK

The Left Wing Christianist arm of the GOP still hopes that Cruz could still get to 1247 (something like that) if Kasich and Rubio drops out.
However it plays out, as many have said, if they try to take away Trump’s nomination if he comes into the convention with the most delegates there will be a real GOP civil war. (Ken Burns style)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:40:01am

re: #124 Ming5000

The Left Wing Christianist arm of the GOP still hopes that Cruz could still get to 1247 (something like that) if Kasich and Rubio drops out.
However it plays out, as many have said, if they try to take away Trump’s nomination if he comes into the convention with the most delegates there will be a real GOP civil war. (Ken Burns style)

A lot of DT’s supporters are Tea Partiers, who align with the GOP when it suits their agenda but owe it no allegiance. If their favorite candidate is denied the nomination, those supporters will abandon the GOP entirely and stay home in November.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:41:55am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

A lot of DT’s supporters are Tea Partiers, who align with the GOP when it suits their agenda but owe it no allegiance. If their favorite candidate is denied the nomination, those supporters will abandon the GOP entirely and stay home in November.

I think there is a strong case that the Trumpians will just take it over.
Edit: That’s how they roll, yo.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:42:38am

Kevin D, what a classy guy! He’s almost as classy as Trump!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:42:44am

re: #126 Ming5000

I think there is a strong case that the Trumpians will just take it over.

That is symptomatic of what has happened to the GOP in general.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:47:42am

Isn’t this precious

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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:49:03am

Meanwhile back at the ranch:

House Freedom Caucus to break with leadership on budget - POLITICO

t.co

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:50:21am

Sorry Sanders supporters, it had to be said.

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Nyet  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:55:32am

re: #131 goddamnedfrank

And on states being white.

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Franklin  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:55:55am

re: #131 goddamnedfrank

Not sure if you are a House of Cards fan but the current season (not a big spoiler):

Click to Reveal

Touches on campaign finance violations for a candidate leveraging a large search companies meta data for research, etc.

Would be interesting to see a whistleblower at one of the large outlets show there is a concerted effort to elevate candidates for competitive/ratings reasons and have that tie back to campaign finance/free advertising.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:00:42am

The Cruz supporting Rage Furby is certainly a yooge Trump fanboy:

Whatever happens in this election or any other I will always like Katrina Pierson, spokeswoman for Trump, bad ass for Liberty.

Posted by Charles C. Johnson on Monday, March 14, 2016

Look at that painful, uncomfortable attempt of a grin on Katrina Pierson’s face.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:24:31am

Pokes thread with a stick - you alive?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:26:47am

re: #134 Dr. Matt

The Cruz supporting Rage Furby is certainly a yooge Trump fanboy:

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Look at that painful, uncomfortable attempt of a grin on Katrina Pierson’s face.

Before Trump entered as a serious contender, Rage Furby only had eyes for Cruz. Now that Trump seemingly espouses all the lovely antisocial causes Rage Furby does, he’s suddenly become a Trump fanboi, while still insisting he’s a Cruz loyalist. I think he’s signaling Trump would be an acceptable second choice for him, just in case there might be a job for him in the Trump organization.

Maybe he can hold the umbrella over The Donald, while Christie gets soaked.

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Nyet  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:29:15am

re: #134 Dr. Matt

Look at that painful, uncomfortable attempt of a grin on Katrina Pierson’s face.

She’s always like that.

Image: 10407066_1832935610266823_8755553194254351979_n.jpg

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Nyet  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:32:34am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:36:02am

I notice that Chuck has changed his “PSA” ad blocks on his blog. The gruesome anti-abortion blocks are gone. Now he’s restored the “reinstate Chuck’s Twitter account” blocks.

However, his Generosity. com crowdfunding campaign for his “legal defense fund” is still active, although he is no longer being obliged to reveal his video leak source. I’m pretty sure Generosity and his donors would frown upon continuing the campaign under false pretenses.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:36:28am

re: #136 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Before Trump entered as a serious contender, Rage Furby only had eyes for Cruz. Now that Trump seemingly espouses all the lovely antisocial causes Rage Furby does, he’s suddenly become a Trump fanboi, while still insisting he’s a Cruz loyalist. I think he’s signaling Trump would be an acceptable second choice for him, just in case there might be a job for him in the Trump organization.

Maybe he can hold the umbrella over The Donald, while Christie gets soaked.

There is no job for him in any administration that does not involve disinfectant and a brush.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:37:34am

re: #140 Decatur Deb

There is no job for him in any administration that does not involve disinfectant and a brush.

Someone has to keep those 24K gold urinals clean!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:38:10am

re: #141 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Someone has to keep those 24K gold urinals clean!

But he only gets a brush after five years of service…

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:39:59am

So, what term has the media made up to describe today’s voting? Super Tuesday Part 3?

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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:41:28am

re: #136 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Maybe he can hold the umbrella over The Donald, while Christie gets soaked.

Isn’t that how the Penguin got his start? It is. Though, the Rage Furby is nor quite as personable, not intelligent, as the Penguin. Nor does he have appropriate schmarm to ingratiate himself with those that he would need to gain power.

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Alyosha  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:44:25am

re: #137 Nyet

Jim Hoft Face Paralysis Syndrome.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:44:51am

I’m not going to imagine what Andrew Breitbart would do if he were alive to witness the shitshow that is the GOP and its fascist/racist underpinnings showing for all the world to see.

He was a significant factor in spreading the right wing hateraide into mainstream media outlets, along with Drudge and Fox News. That troika of malfeasance and maleficence has done more to damage the polity than anything else. They’ve undermined the trust in journalism and media outlets to accurately report news events as they occur, and that’s also led to the rise of do-nothing/know-nothing right wing candidates who brazenly ignore reality to pursue their agenda to essentially burn down the political system.

They are arsonists, and chief among them was Breitbart.

What would he have done about Fields and Shapiro? I suspect he would have given them the boot personally, instead of letting them walk out the door.

There’s no reason to think otherwise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:46:13am

re: #146 lawhawk

What would he have done about Fields and Shapiro? I suspect he would have given them the boot personally, instead of letting them walk out the door.

There’s no reason to think otherwise.

Might as well debate what Ronald Reagan would have done. Or Jesus.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:50:45am

re: #143 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

So, what term has the media made up to describe today’s voting? Super Tuesday Part 3?

Let’s call it Claudia (starts with the third letter of the alphabet) in honor of the Weather Channel. It also allows us to hashtag it: #Claudia.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:53:57am

IIRC, Breitbart gave us James O’Keefe. I don’t think Breitbart was ever in the same room with honest journalism, at least not on purpose.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:55:40am

re: #143 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

So, what term has the media made up to describe today’s voting? Super Tuesday Part 3?

The BBC is calling it Super Tuesday II.

They also imply American democracy is difficult to understand. I agree.

Primaries, delegates, open primaries, closed primaries, winner-take-all primaries, proportional assignment of delegates, caucuses, conventions, brokered conventions — it’s all very dizzying.

Then we’ll have a few more months of the two party nominees trying to convince us they’re the better choice. Then *finally* we get to vote.

And, then there’s the electoral college, with its own set of arcane rules, which on rare occasions in the past has negated the popular vote.

Surely there must be a simpler way to do all this shit.

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Alyosha  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:56:10am

Too tired to generate original content.
Have a great Ides of March, eveyone.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 15, 2016 • 5:58:56am

re: #150 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Surely there must be a simpler way to do all this shit.

Dump the electoral college, it is a vestige of the past when 20 miles was a relevant distance. Popular vote should be the norm. There is no reason why geographical area has any relevance to who wins the presidency.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:00:01am

re: #149 Barefoot Grin

IIRC, Breitbart gave us James O’Keefe. I don’t think Breitbart was ever in the same room with honest journalism, at least not on purpose.

Breitbart was the very dry martini of honest journalism. The vermouth bottle was open on the other side of the room while the gin was poured into the glass.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:01:19am

Good day, everyone. :)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:01:53am

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:03:29am

re: #152 Le Lapin Tueur

Dump the electoral college, it is a vestige of the past when 20 miles was a relevant distance. Popular vote should be the norm. There is no reason why geographical area has any relevance to who wins the presidency.

That would require a constitutional amendment, so it won’t happen.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:04:33am

re: #150 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Primaries are a state level political creature. Each state sets up their own rules, along with the timing and kind of primary/caucus. The national election and rules are mandated by the Constitution.

No way that’s going to change, no matter how many people think that the EC is an anachronism of a bygone era. Yet it’s meant to be another check/balance between big states and small states - population and state size.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:05:38am

No, Charles Manson Didn’t Endorse Donald Trump

No biggy, Manson can’t vote anyway.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:06:52am

re: #152 Le Lapin Tueur

Dump the electoral college, it is a vestige of the past when 20 miles was a relevant distance. Popular vote should be the norm. There is no reason why geographical area has any relevance to who wins the presidency.

That cartoon that VB posts about the Republican voter vs. the Democratic voter disses the Democrat for wishing she could vote on Facebook, but really, the technology is available to enable online voting. There are security issues to be worked out, to be sure, but if I can buy shares in an American company, file my taxes, and manage my bank accounts from 8,000 miles away, those issues have largely already been solved.

It would probably require a national ID number of some kind, though. The CTs would go ballistic at such an idea.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:07:16am

re: #158 Shiplord Kirel

No, Charles Manson Didn’t Endorse Donald Trump

[Embedded content]

No biggy, Manson can’t vote anyway.

I’m pretty sure Trump has the psychopath vote locked up anyway.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:13:44am

re: #159 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

As a case in point, last month I loaned a friend 900 yuan ($138) to buy a new cellphone after hers got stolen. Today she paid me back. She lives on the other side of the country, so we transferred the money using our cellphones and WeChat Wallet. Easy peasy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:16:37am

re: #152 Le Lapin Tueur

Dump the electoral college, it is a vestige of the past when 20 miles was a relevant distance. Popular vote should be the norm. There is no reason why geographical area has any relevance to who wins the presidency.

I am in favor of retaining it, but only in the event that no single candidate gains a majority of the popular vote.

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Great White Snark  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:19:43am

Anyone considering joining the Afghan national army? This video is supposed to help you make up your mind. if you are Afghani of course. Video

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:20:27am

re: #118 Nyet

Kevin “let’s hang the women doing abortions” Williamson knows something about right-wing authoritarianism.

[Embedded content]

But Williamson isn’t wrong about Yiannopoulos. If folks here are that worried about Donald Trump, may I suggest you back off of his enemies on the right so that they have a better shot at tearing Trump down.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:20:56am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I am in favor of retaining it, but only in the event that no single candidate gains a majority of the popular vote.

What I would like to see is a multi-party system created by instituting proportional representation in congressional elections and less restrictive ballot access. Once the two party block is broken up into three or more major parties, then it will be less likely that a candidate will get a majority of the electoral vote, and the President would be selected by Congress. This would make our system more like a more stable parliamentary system and decrease gridlock because the President and Congress would be less likely to be at loggerheads.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:21:22am

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

Um no. They suck too.

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Great White Snark  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:23:55am

re: #166 GlutenFreeJesus

Um no. They suck too.

When your opposition is making a mistake, don’t stop them. AKA “let them fight”.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:24:12am

re: #165 Big Beautiful Door

File that under “Never gonna happen”. I don’t even think proportional representation is a good idea for a legislature. It’s better if legislators are elected by districts, since it allows areas with particular concerns to get them addressed and requires members of Congress to listen to their constituents.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:26:22am

re: #166 GlutenFreeJesus

Um no. They suck too.

Republicans are going to nominate someone. We’re not going to let Hillary Clinton walk to victory.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:27:30am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

File that under “Never gonna happen”. I don’t even think proportional representation is a good idea for a legislature. It’s better if legislators are elected by districts, since it allows areas with particular concerns to get them addressed and requires members of Congress to listen to their constituents.

Germans do a 50-50 system: half the delegates are elected directly, the rest proportionally depending on how many votes their parties get.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:27:42am

hahahahahaaaa

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:28:36am

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

Republicans are going to nominate someone. We’re not going to let Hillary Clinton walk to victory.

Trump = GOP goes down in flames, taking congressional seats with it.

Non-Trump = DT supporters abandon the party in droves, damage to congressional seats less severe.

Take your pick.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:30:32am

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

Republicans are going to nominate someone. We’re not going to let Hillary Clinton walk to victory.

Hillary Clinton is better than any candidate the GOP has to offer.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:33:42am

Republicans falling in line behind The Glorious Leader
Support

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:34:16am

If Trump does win the nomination, which will be likely if he wins Florida and Ohio today, I wonder about how many of the #nevertrump folk will eventually give in and accept the Drumpfskind.

My suspicion is that the resistance to Trump will soften among the Republicans in the face of Hillary Clinton.

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Tigger2  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:35:54am

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

Republicans are going to nominate someone. We’re not going to let Hillary Clinton walk to victory.

Then why doesn’t your party find someone from the 21 century to run instead of all the regressive candidates you’ll get from the 19 century to run.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:36:34am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I prefer this scenario: Ted Cruz’s campaign uses the DoJ’s refusal to indict Hillary Clinton to ignite a fire against federal corruption that burns so hot that Obama is confined to DC by crowds enraged with his administration’s favoritism. Cruz goes on to win the presidency with majorities in both houses of Congress, having kept a majority of Trump’s supporters by channeling their anger against HRC. Prior to inauguration day, Hillary flees to France to avoid a prison sentence for her email disaster.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:36:46am

re: #163 Great White Snark

Anyone considering joining the Afghan national army? This video is supposed to help you make up your mind. if you are Afghani of course. [Embedded content]

Video

That’s really mind-blowing in its implications.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:36:59am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:37:08am

re: #175 freetoken

If Trump does win the nomination, which will be likely if he wins Florida and Ohio today, I wonder about how many of the #nevertrump folk will eventually give in and accept the Drumpfskind.

My suspicion is that the resistance to Trump will soften among the Republicans in the face of Hillary Clinton.

People have become so manipulated by the Hillary Derangement Machine of the past 20 years, they truly believe that Trump is a “reasonable” alternative to TEH HORRORS OF HITLERY!!11!!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:37:10am

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

Enjoy your vote for Trump.

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Weaselone  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:37:39am

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

Just out of curiosity. If Hillary Clinton were running as a Republican with her same positions would you vote for her in the primary?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:38:34am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

I prefer this scenario: Ted Cruz’s campaign uses the DoJ’s refusal to indict Hillary Clinton to ignite a fire against federal corruption that burns so hot that Obama is confined to DC by crowds enraged with his administration’s favoritism. Cruz goes on to win the presidency with majorities in both houses of Congress, having kept a majority of Trump’s supporters by channeling their anger against HRC. Prior to inauguration day, Hillary flees to France to avoid a prison sentence for her email disaster.

I prefer to eat fly agaric mushrooms and watch my girlfriend turn into a moray eel and slither through an unseen wormhole into the next dimension…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:38:48am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

I prefer this scenario: Ted Cruz’s campaign uses the DoJ’s refusal to indict Hillary Clinton to ignite a fire against federal corruption that burns so hot that Obama is confined to DC by crowds enraged with his administration’s favoritism. Cruz goes on to win the presidency with majorities in both houses of Congress, having kept a majority of Trump’s supporters by channeling their anger against HRC. Prior to inauguration day, Hillary flees to France to avoid a prison sentence for her email disaster.

Who said conservatives don’t do ‘shrooms?

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:38:50am

re: #182 Weaselone

Just out of curiosity. If Hillary Clinton were running as a Republican with her same positions would you vote for her in the primary?

Hell, no! Her anti-gun stance makes her unacceptable to me.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:39:09am

I hadn’t seen any reports yet, but have the Hitler youths … err Trump militia shown up armed at any rallies yet?

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:39:39am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

I prefer this scenario: Ted Cruz’s campaign uses the DoJ’s refusal to indict Hillary Clinton to ignite a fire against federal corruption that burns so hot that Obama is confined to DC by crowds enraged with his administration’s favoritism. Cruz goes on to win the presidency with majorities in both houses of Congress, having kept a majority of Trump’s supporters by channeling their anger against HRC. Prior to inauguration day, Hillary flees to France to avoid a prison sentence for her email disaster.

LMAO. Fever dreams are never pretty. Cruz led GOP shutdown of government costing nation billions of dollars; so any talk of Clinton corruption should be measured against the waste committed by Cruz and his fellow GOPers in a political stunt that did absolutely nothing except show that the GOP is committed to obstructionism and destroying the government safety net and Obamacare (which was fashioned specifically on GOP ideas of personal responsibility via the individual mandate - as per RomneyCare and the Heritage Foundation’s own health care plans).

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:40:46am

So now common sense gun laws = anti-gun. Hurrah!!!!!!

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:40:56am

re: #93 Viscous Obama

Oh I’ll just leave this here

[Embedded image]

Man, if Christie hadn’t been such a bullying prick all his life, I’d actually feel bad for him.

But…nah. Karma at work. I live to see when Trump finally gets his…

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Tigger2  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:41:32am

re: #185 Dark_Falcon

Hell, no! Her anti-gun stance makes her unacceptable to me.

Did you get that from the NRA site.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:41:44am

re: #188 GlutenFreeJesus

So now common sense gun laws = anti-gun. Hurrah!!!!!!

Well, yeah. Think of all those poor guns that will never find loving homes. //

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:42:20am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

File that under “Never gonna happen”. I don’t even think proportional representation is a good idea for a legislature. It’s better if legislators are elected by districts, since it allows areas with particular concerns to get them addressed and requires members of Congress to listen to their constituents.

So what happens if, by some chance, the GOP splits (or the Dems, FTM) into two factions, with the smaller representing, say, 27% of the original party membership. The current apportionment system presumes there are only two parties worth worrying about. What happens if this hypothetical third party survives the split? It’s going to want a say in the apportionment process, too.

If you think apportionment of electoral districts is crazy now with two parties duking it out, just imagine how insane three parties would be.

Proportional representation could eliminate the constant efforts to gerrymander districts to benefit one party or the other.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:42:42am

re: #185 Dark_Falcon

Hell, no! Her anti-gun stance makes her unacceptable to me.

According to the berners this week, Hillary is dong fundraisers for the NRA.

I am not joking.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:43:16am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

According to the berners this week, Hillary is dong fundraisers for the NRA.

I am not joking.

dong fundraisers? Is Bill gonna be there?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:43:26am

What is SMOTI’s “Final Solution”? His site is firewalled here (for good reason)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:43:42am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

dong fundraisers? Is Bill gonna be there?

the cat helped type that comment…

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Tigger2  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:43:53am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

According to the berners this week, Hillary is dong fundraisers for the NRA.

I am not joking.

Burnie, you meant the one the NRA praised.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:44:14am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

I prefer this scenario: Ted Cruz’s campaign uses the DoJ’s refusal to indict Hillary Clinton to ignite a fire against federal corruption that burns so hot that Obama is confined to DC by crowds enraged with his administration’s favoritism. Cruz goes on to win the presidency with majorities in both houses of Congress, having kept a majority of Trump’s supporters by channeling their anger against HRC. Prior to inauguration day, Hillary flees to France to avoid a prison sentence for her email disaster.

I want what you’re smoking.

//

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:44:33am

Donald Trump’s rise sparks alarm in Japan

As polls open for US primaries in Ohio and Florida, the political elite in Tokyo is starting to confront a disconcerting idea: that their indispensable US ally could actually elect Donald Trump as president.

[…]

“I will take his remarks seriously when he is elected president,” said Kuni Miyake, head of the Foreign Policy Institute in Tokyo.

“Media overreaction creates people like Trump, who represent the dark side of the US,” he added. “I believe in the western democracies — in the end they’ll come up with a healthy outcome.”

But Tokyo is realizing that even if Mr Trump loses, his rhetoric is seeping into the popular consciousness, and other US politicians are changing their positions in response.

Eventually other people in the world will take notice of the stupidity of Trumpism.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:44:46am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

I prefer this scenario: Ted Cruz’s campaign uses the DoJ’s refusal to indict Hillary Clinton to ignite a fire against federal corruption that burns so hot that Obama is confined to DC by crowds enraged with his administration’s favoritism. Cruz goes on to win the presidency with majorities in both houses of Congress, having kept a majority of Trump’s supporters by channeling their anger against HRC. Prior to inauguration day, Hillary flees to France to avoid a prison sentence for her email disaster.

I’m just waiting for you to join in singing Tomorrow Belongs To Me with your fellow Republicans…

Let me explain to you what criminal behavior is—lying this country into a pair of wars—and in one of those wars my son was killed. Compared to Dumbya and The Dick, Hillary is Mary Poppins…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:46:50am

re: #199 freetoken

Donald Trump’s rise sparks alarm in Japan

Eventually other people in the world will take notice of the stupidity of Trumpism.

Trump thinks THE U.S. IS A LAUGHINGSTOCK now, wait until he gets elected.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:48:56am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

File that under “Never gonna happen”. I don’t even think proportional representation is a good idea for a legislature. It’s better if legislators are elected by districts, since it allows areas with particular concerns to get them addressed and requires members of Congress to listen to their constituents.

That is the precise problem. When politicians get to select their voters through gerrymandering, they don’t have to listen to their constituents. Plus I would argue for not completely eliminating districts but having a hybrid system of both district elected representatives and proportional representation. I disagree that it will never happen, because multi-party systems exist all over the world. But it will probably take a major crisis brought on by political gridlock to make the change. Unless the GOP disintegrates this year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:49:21am

YUUUGE WIN!

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:49:27am

re: #200 Joe Bacon

You call me a Nazi? You can go take a long walk off a short pier, Joe.

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Tigger2  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:49:41am

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

Trump thinks THE U.S. IS A LAUGHINGSTOCK now, wait until he gets elected.

The U.S. would become more hated under Trump than it was under Bush.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:50:01am

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

He says call them Job Fairs.

Har har har.

The nonsensical ravings of lunatic minds who think that political rallies during the day attended by people in support of the candidate are hardworking types, but the people protesting are jobless extremists, when the reality is that there’s just as strong a likelihood that the supporters are retirees or nonworking types, or who took time off from work just as much as the protesters did.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:52:14am

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

The political machine, well, what goes for such, in the Marianas Islands endorsed Trump, so he was expect to pick up those delegates.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:52:25am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

I prefer this scenario: Ted Cruz’s campaign uses the DoJ’s refusal to indict Hillary Clinton to ignite a fire against federal corruption that burns so hot that Obama is confined to DC by crowds enraged with his administration’s favoritism. Cruz goes on to win the presidency with majorities in both houses of Congress, having kept a majority of Trump’s supporters by channeling their anger against HRC. Prior to inauguration day, Hillary flees to France to avoid a prison sentence for her email disaster.

I will stop laughing at this when someone explains to me:
1. What she did differently than the previous two SoS’s
2. How she violated a regulation that was set after she left office.
3. How her secure home server was less secure than the Republican House releasing every email on the server.

As for Cruz, what you’re proposing is way too complicated for him.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:54:32am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

I prefer this scenario: Ted Cruz’s campaign uses the DoJ’s refusal to indict Hillary Clinton to ignite a fire against federal corruption that burns so hot that Obama is confined to DC by crowds enraged with his administration’s favoritism. Cruz goes on to win the presidency with majorities in both houses of Congress, having kept a majority of Trump’s supporters by channeling their anger against HRC. Prior to inauguration day, Hillary flees to France to avoid a prison sentence for her email disaster.

Here’s what will likely happen.

None of that.

You’re assuming Cruz wins the nomination. It’ll be Trump, mark my words.

There is no reason to indict Hillary, since she didn’t do anything illegal during the time she was SoS. Email-gate is a dead horse, and the GOP needs to stop flogging the corpse.

The American public, for the most part, likes Obama. The Tea Party-led “million person marches” were all miserable flops. So, no hordes of incensed citizens will grab their torches and pitchforks to surround the WH to keep Obama under house arrest.

Even if Cruz grabs the nomination from Trump, trying McCarthy-style smear tactics against Clinton is doomed to failure. No one really gives a shit about email-gate except the extremists in the GOP. It’s a nothing-burger. Anyone who tries whipping up anger against Clinton for that damned private email server is shooting himself in the foot.

Finally, we have an extradition treaty with France. Clinton knows that. She’d go somewhere else.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:55:09am

re: #188 GlutenFreeJesus

So now common sense gun laws = anti-gun. Hurrah!!!!!!

No, Hillary is going to take their guns. Just like Obama took their guns in his first term and his second term.//

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:56:31am
Will Trump make inroads with unlikely demographics? The Miami Herald reports that he is faring surprisingly well with Hispanic Republicans: “Cuban Americans in South Florida have the rare opportunity to vote for two of their own for the U.S. presidency. Yet some are making a different choice: They’re backing Trump … There is anecdotal evidence of support among Miami-Dade’s staunchly Republican Cuban-American voters even as most back Rubio — the son of Cuban immigrants — whom many Cuban-American voters helped elect to the U.S. Senate in 2010.” The paper says Cubans don’t care as much about deportation and the border wall. “I don’t think Cuban. I think American. … The worst problem the U.S. has is the economy,” said former Hialeah Mayor Julio Martinez, who convinced his wife who once lived in the U.S. illegally to vote for Trump.

Never underestimate the ability of a conman to get people to act against their own best interests.

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The Engineer Lobuno  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:57:09am

re: #208 Belafon

I will stop laughing at this when someone explains to me:
1. What she did differently than the previous two SoS’s
2. How she violated a regulation that was set after she left office.
3. How her secure home server was less secure than the Republican House releasing every email on the server.

As for Cruz, what you’re proposing is way too complicated for him.

Also, many of the emails were deemed confidential after the fact. At the moment they were sent, they weren’t considered confidential.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 6:58:30am

re: #192 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So what happens if, by some chance, the GOP splits (or the Dems, FTM) into two factions, with the smaller representing, say, 27% of the original party membership. The current apportionment system presumes there are only two parties worth worrying about. What happens if this hypothetical third party survives the split? It’s going to want a say in the apportionment process, too.

If you think apportionment of electoral districts is crazy now with two parties duking it out, just imagine how insane three parties would be.

Proportional representation could eliminate the constant efforts to gerrymander districts to benefit one party or the other.

I think that a key benefit of a multi-party system would be that Congress would no longer be divided between “us” and “them”, and since “them” are evil people bent on the destruction of America as we know it, there can be no compromise. Three or more major parties could reintroduce the art of negotiation and compromise to Congress.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:00:07am

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

What is SMOTI’s “Final Solution”? His site is firewalled here (for good reason)

[Embedded content]

The Facebook post Hoft links to says: “To prevent thugs from disrupting Trump rallies we will now call our events a ‘job fair’.”

[deadpan]Oh, that’s funny. Ha, ha, ha, ouch. I laughed so hard my stomach hurts.[/deadpan]

Stupid Bigotry is Stupid.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:01:43am

I was just flipping through the channels. On Bill Hemmer’s show they were talking about…Benghazi.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:01:45am

re: #213 Big Beautiful Door

I think that a key benefit of a multi-party system would be that Congress would no longer be divided between “us” and “them”, and since “them” are evil people bent on the destruction of America as we know it, there can be no compromise. Three or more major parties could reintroduce the art of negotiation and compromise to Congress.

Or the tea partiers would just group with the pro-Business party against the Democrats.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:02:28am

The Republican extremists have been hammering away at Benghazi and the Clinton email server for years, as if either one is a life-or-death scandal that threatens the very existence of the nation. Repeated investigations have turned up NOTHING, absolutely nothing. Yet, the Republicans — and our own Dark_Falcon — still flog away at both these dead horses as if anyone besides them really cares.

No one fucking cares. Just give it up, OK?

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Tigger2  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:04:52am

re: #217 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The Republican extremists have been hammering away at Benghazi and the Clinton email server for years, as if either one is a life-or-death scandal that threatens the very existence of the nation. Repeated investigations have turned up NOTHING, absolutely nothing. Yet, the Republicans — and our own Dark_Falcon — still flog away at both these dead horses as if anyone besides them really cares.

No one fucking cares. Just give it up, OK?

The Republicans have been living the Groundhog Day move for 7 years now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:04:55am

re: #217 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The Republican extremists have been hammering away at Benghazi and the Clinton email server for years, as if either one is a life-or-death scandal that threatens the very existence of the nation. Repeated investigations have turned up NOTHING, absolutely nothing. Yet, the Republicans — and our own Dark_Falcon — still flog away at both these dead horses as if anyone besides them really cares.

No one fucking cares. Just give it up, OK?

It is imperative that the GOP commence impeachment hearings against Hillary the second she receives the nomination.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:06:13am

From the same link, WaPo carrying Drumpfskind “low energy” meme:

— Reporters who are following Clinton believe that she is fatigued, and they’re portraying three gaffes over three days as evidence that the unexpectedly competitive contest has taken a physical toll on the 68-year old. From The Post’s main day story, anchored by John Wagner and Jose A. DelReal: “Friday morning, the day of Nancy Reagan’s funeral, Clinton mistakenly praised the former first lady for ‘starting a conversation’ about HIV/AIDS. Clinton quickly apologized, but the backlash from the LGBT community was intense … The next day in St. Louis, Clinton suggested that Sanders had been absent during her 1993 push for health-care reform. On Twitter, a Sanders aide quickly blasted out an archival video showing the senator standing right behind Clinton during a news conference about the effort. Twenty-four hours after that, Clinton answered a question about coal country with a cringe-worthy response: ‘We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business, right?’ On Monday, Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon tried to clean up…”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:08:01am

re: #218 Tigger2

The Republicans have been living the Groundhog Day move for 7 years now.

Total lack of imagination. The Party of No has nothing else to run on. No alternative health care plan. No budget plan that doesn’t nuke social welfare programs. No vision for the future. All they have is a vision for some mythical past that never existed, and never should.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:09:30am

re: #216 Belafon

Or the tea partiers would just group with the pro-Business party against the Democrats.

Possible, but there are other possible scenarios as well. Breaking up the Cold War between the Democrats and Republicans introduces possibilities which currently don’t exist.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:10:20am

And now I’m off to vote. BBT

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William Lewis  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:10:35am

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

But Williamson isn’t wrong about Yiannopoulos. If folks here are that worried about Donald Trump, may I suggest you back off of his enemies on the right so that they have a better shot at tearing Trump down.

“The enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy. No more, no less”

They are just as bad, if not worse, than Trump and must be stopped as well.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:11:39am

re: #222 Big Beautiful Door

Possible, but there are other possible scenarios as well. Breaking up the Cold War between the Democrats and Republicans introduces possibilities which currently don’t exist.

The Cold War exists because the Tea Party/Religious Right faction of the Republican Party makes it happen. If they were segregated into their own party, the businessman Republicans could negotiate with the Democrats once again, as they had done before Reagan let the crazies in the door.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:11:52am

re: #221 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Total lack of imagination. The Party of No has nothing else to run on. No alternative health care plan. No budget plan that doesn’t nuke social welfare programs. No vision for the future. All they have is a vision for some mythical past that never existed, and never should.

The good thing is that no one who doesn’t watch Fox is likely to be convinced now, and the 11-hour inquisition will ultimately prove useful to Hillary. It’s just the relentless attack on honesty that pisses me off.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:12:29am

re: #220 freetoken

When she confronts him, she can ask Trump why he thinks a working 68 year old woman has “low energy” when a 69 year old man doesn’t.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:12:46am

re: #185 Dark_Falcon

And by ‘anti-gun stance’ you mean ‘attempts to keep firearms out of the hands who are too irresponsible to use them wisely or effectively.’

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:14:00am

re: #228 Romantic Heretic

And by ‘anti-gun stance’ you mean ‘attempts to keep firearms out of the hands who are too irresponsible to use them wisely or effectively.’

Because he thinks it’s irresponsible for the government to determine that before someone is shot.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:14:10am

re: #227 Belafon

When she confronts him, she can ask Trump why he thinks a working 68 year old woman has “low energy” when a 69 year old man doesn’t.

Trump’s been looking haggard, too, on occasion. His rallies are high energy, because it’s a show and he’s a showman. He probably collapses into a quivering pile of orange flesh once he gets back on board his jet.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:14:57am

re: #227 Belafon

When she confronts him, she can ask Trump why he thinks a working 68 year old woman has “low energy” when a 69 year old man doesn’t.

Probably not a good scenario for Hillary, because I am certain that not only can Drumpfskind talk over Hillary, he will delight in doing so.

Best approach for Clinton, IMO, is to only directly speak to the American population and don’t give Drumpfskind the pleasure of being addressed directly.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:17:19am

re: #231 freetoken

Probably not a good scenario for Hillary, because I am certain that not only can Drumpfskind talk over Hillary, he will delight in doing so.

Best approach for Clinton, IMO, is to only directly speak to the American population and don’t give Drumpfskind the pleasure of being addressed directly.

There will be debates between Trump and Clinton in the Fall, presuming they are the nominees.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:17:37am

Trump’s lecturing his followers on the horrible state of the US economy, which in fact is in pretty good shape. Contrast that with this news from the BBC.

Somehow, $16 billion of Nigeria’s oil revenues have gone missing.
bbc.com

Woopsie!

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:18:37am

re: #233 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Trump’s lecturing his followers on the horrible state of the US economy, which in fact is in pretty good shape. Contrast that with this news from the BBC.

Somehow, $16 billion of Nigeria’s oil revenues have gone missing.
bbc.com

Woopsie!

The emails finally paid out! Why didn’t I take a chance?

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:19:41am

re: #232 Big Beautiful Door

There will be debates between Trump and Clinton in the Fall, presuming they are the nominees.

Yes, but there is only one tactic that will bother Drumpfskind: diss him.

That is, Hillary needs to look into the camera, and use only passingly derisive phrases to refer to Drumpfskind.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:20:11am
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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:22:05am

Hillary should use Fanfare for the Common Man at every opportunity - especially when about to talk about Trump.

Mention that Trump is a gold plated charlatan who couldn’t even manage to be a success at things most Americans consume voraciously - casinos, booze, football, and flying.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:23:04am

re: #237 lawhawk

Hillary should use Fanfare for the Common Man at every opportunity - especially when about to talk about Trump.

Mention that Trump is a gold plated charlatan who couldn’t even manage to be a success at things most Americans consume voraciously - casinos, booze, football, and flying.

Don’t forget steak.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:24:34am

re: #236 lawhawk

It is widely anticipated that Marco Rubio is going to get shellacked on his home turf in Tuesday’s Florida presidential primary. A very unsympathetic Friday profile in the Tampa Bay Times suggests that part of the reason this is so is that Rubio’s entire career has consisted of sweet-talking influential individuals into giving him big opportunities only to drop those individuals like hot rocks when another better thing comes along. The idea is that now, when he needs home-state support more than ever, Rubio has no one on the ground to rely on; a number of past allies in fact went on the record to tell the Times exactly how little they like lil’ Marco and how bad he is at actually doing the jobs he’s chosen for. In other words, all the people he stepped on on the way up are ready to kick him in the groin on his way down, or however that aphorism goes.

This seems a bit too much like it was written by a Drumpfskind-influenced bot.

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LastYearsMan  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:24:43am

Even with the insane events of the past week, I’m still less frightened of Trump than I am of Cruz.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:25:37am

Drumpfskind is shaping the public conversation.

I’ve very wary of this in reading American media in particular.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:26:01am

re: #240 LastYearsMan

Even with the insane events of the past week, I’m still less frightened of Trump than I am of Cruz.

I’m less frightened of a fission bomb than I am of a fusion bomb.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:26:04am
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Franklin  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:26:49am

re: #240 LastYearsMan

Even with the insane events of the past week, I’m still less frightened of Trump than I am of Cruz.

True. But it’s like the difference between getting run over by a city bus or a gravel truck.

EDIT:

re: #242 Belafon

beat me to the punch.

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LastYearsMan  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:27:07am

Dear lord Ben Carson’s “endorsements” of Trump are too funny. “He promised me a job!” “He’s two different people.” “Yeah, I don’t like him much, but it’s just four years.” True comedy gold.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:27:20am

I suspect Trump would have described Obama as having low energy, because we all call him no drama Obama for a reason. I wonder how Obama would have reacted to it?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:29:03am

re: #246 Belafon

I suspect Trump would have described Obama as having low energy, because we all call him no drama Obama for a reason. I wonder how Obama would have reacted to it?

Obama would have punched him

Out of pure passion.

/

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Tigger2  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:30:37am

re: #246 Belafon

I suspect Trump would have described Obama as having low energy, because we all call him no drama Obama for a reason. I wonder how Obama would have reacted to it?

He would have prob gave Trump his little Obama ( you’re a dumbass) smile that he does so good.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:30:44am

re: #208 Belafon

I will stop laughing at this when someone explains to me:

3. How her secure home server was less secure than the Republican House releasing every email on the server.

Because, we know how secure government computers are… 28 million IDs extracted (including mine) from the servers at the OPM.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:31:23am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Obama would have punched him

Out of pure passion.

/

The image of Obama wrapping his arm around Trump’s neck and giving him a noogie popped into my head when I read this.

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LastYearsMan  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:31:55am

re: #242 Belafon

I’m less frightened of a fission bomb than I am of a fusion bomb.

Well, Trump does seem to be working overtime to prove my fears wrong. But to me, Cruz seems outright evil. Trump is much more banal. (On the other hand, Hannah Arendt was able to square that circle nicely … one does often dovetail into the other).

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:32:10am

Holes in this map:

nytimes.com

will be filled in today… and we will see how smooth a transition there is from Cruz-country to Drumpfsland.

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LastYearsMan  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:34:28am

re: #246 Belafon

I suspect Trump would have described Obama as having low energy, because we all call him no drama Obama for a reason. I wonder how Obama would have reacted to it?

We’ve already seen how Obama reacts to Trump (from the correspondents dinner) — with outright and delicious mockery. Which is all Trump deserves. Trump is such an insecure gasbag, mockery affects him like water does the Wicked Witch of the West.

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Lidane  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:39:17am
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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:41:03am

re: #254 Lidane

Welcome to the party, pal!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:42:07am

In Ohio:

How many people are switching?

Cuyahoga County Board of Elections Director Pat McDonald said absentee ballot numbers indicate more unaffiliated voters are choosing to vote in a primary this year, and more voters are choosing to switch parties than in previous elections.

Among Cuyahoga County voters who requested absentee ballots by mail or voted early in person this year:

15.6 percent of affiliated Democrats have requested Republican ballots.
About 1.3 percent of affiliated Republicans have requested Democrat ballots.
Nearly 24,700 unaffiliated voters requested a party ballot.
Of those, 14,700 voters chose Democrat ballots and 10,000 chose Republican ballots.

The Columbus Dispatch reported 17,000 of Franklin County’s roughly 39,000 requests for absentee ballots were from unaffiliated voters choosing a party ballot or from partisans changing parties.

92 percent of the 17,000 were unaffiliated voters.
Of those voters, nearly two-thirds requested Democrat ballots.
Nearly 700 previously registered Democrats requested Republican ballots and a little more than 400 Republicans switched to Democrat ballots.

cleveland.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:44:05am
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Jenner7  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:45:27am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sigh.

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Tigger2  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:46:10am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hope Dem’s playing around aren’t going to fuck the General up.

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Jenner7  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:46:48am

I don’t care if I thought it would help Hillary, I would NEVER vote for Trump. NEVER.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:47:51am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sunday news article from Columbus sez the county has received a very large number of requests for ballots of people crossing over.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:49:31am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

I suppose that’s better than “I’ll never vote for Clinton/Sanders” but I wish they would choose the candidate they want. The Republicans are taking care of blowing up their own party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:50:15am
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Jenner7  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:50:28am

For all the fun we make of Trump supporters, Dems who vote for Trump (for whatever reason) are just as stupid.

That was probably mean, but I’ve got horrible allergies and I’m cranky.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:51:29am
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Tigger2  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:51:52am

re: #259 Tigger2

I hope Dem’s playing around aren’t going to fuck the General up.

Personally I want Hillary to win because I think she will bring more Dem’s in with her than Sanders would. Sanders scares me because the Republicans haven’t even started hitting him yet.

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Nyet  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:52:18am

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

If folks here are that worried about Donald Trump, may I suggest you back off of his enemies on the right so that they have a better shot at tearing Trump down.

We are no less worried that numerous idiotic yahoos will vote for the only GOP alternative to Trump, a certain theofascist.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:53:12am

re: #260 Jenner7

I don’t care if I thought it would help Hillary, I would NEVER vote for Trump. NEVER.

My father crossed over to vote for Trump in Michigan to stir up shit. I fear too many Democrats may have done the same thing which could explain [in part] why Hillary’s projected double digit lead resulted in a 1.5% loss. There is a buzzword being picked up by the MSM: tactical voting.

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:55:10am

Bill Mumy weighs in. Not a bad idea.

Facebook Post

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:55:35am

old tweet, but still valid.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:56:11am

re: #269 makeitstop

Bill Mumy weighs in. Not a bad idea.

[Embedded content]

Since I can’t see facebook at work (and I know I’m not the only one) can you summarize?

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Nyet  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:56:15am

The only tactical voters who are not idiots are those who live in the states in which their preferred candidate has a snowball’s chance in hell.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:56:36am

re: #268 Dr. Matt

My father crossed over to vote for Trump in Michigan to stir up shit. I fear too many Democrats may have done the same thing which could explain [in part] why Hillary’s projected double digit lead resulted in a 1.5% loss. There is a buzzword being picked up by the MSM: tactical voting.

I tried that once.

Voted in the 1986 Arizona gubernatorial primary for who I thought would be the weakest GOP candidate, a Mormon Pontiac salesman, Evan Mecham.

But then an independent candidate split the Democratic vote and Mecham won with a plurality (a rule which has since been changed)

he went on to become a major embarrassment to the state and was impeached.

Last time I go all Machiavellian on anybody…

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:56:45am

Just got back from doing the vote. Go Ohio…represent!

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Tigger2  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:57:58am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I tried that once.

Voted in the 1986 Arizona gubernatorial primary for who I thought would be the weakest GOP candidate, a Mormon Pontiac salesman, Evan Mecham.

But then an independent candidate split the Democratic vote and Mecham won with a plurality (a rule which has since been changed)

he went on to become a major embarrassment to the state and was impeached.

Last time I go all Machiavellian on anybody…

I never have tactical voted and never will.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:58:34am

re: #268 Dr. Matt

My father crossed over to vote for Trump in Michigan to stir up shit. I fear too many Democrats may have done the same thing which could explain [in part] why Hillary’s projected double digit lead resulted in a 1.5% loss. There is a buzzword being picked up by the MSM: tactical voting.

It is kind of silly, Ohio Democrats who vote for Trump to screw with the Republicans will in part be negated by Democrats who vote for Kasich to stop Trump. But lets say as a result Sanders narrowly wins Ohio. The media will trumpet it as a big Sanders victory, but at the end of the day Hillary will have gotten more votes and more delegates nationally and will have built a virtually insurmountable lead. The good news is that this summer the vast majority of Democrats will unite behind Hillary while the GOP is eating itself alive in Cleveland in a desperate effort to stop Trump.

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:58:54am

re: #271 Belafon

Since I can’t see facebook at work (and I know I’m not the only one) can you summarize?

It would be real good if you all would join me in sending Donald Trump to the cornfield.

Because he’s a bad man. He’s a very bad man.

Thank you kindly.

Peace!

(With a pic of the kid who wishes people into the cornfield.)

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Dr. Matt  Mar 15, 2016 • 7:59:14am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I thought about doing it this year, but I’m not taking anything for granted. I voted today. I won’t tell who I voted for, but her name rhymes with Millary Vinton.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:00:00am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:00:08am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

I thought about doing it this year, but I’m not taking anything for granted. I voted today. I won’t tell who I voted for, but her name rhymes with Millary Vinton.

Sounds like a village in England somewhere.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:01:18am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

I thought about doing it this year, but I’m not taking anything for granted. I voted today. I won’t tell who I voted for, but her name rhymes with Millary Vinton.

I heard Millary, when she was in office, was a pretty good representative.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:01:53am
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Franklin  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:02:29am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

I thought about doing it this year, but I’m not taking anything for granted. I voted today. I won’t tell who I voted for, but her name rhymes with Millary Vinton.

Reminds me of a Simpsons quote..

Skinner: Good morning class. A certain…agitator…for privacy’s sake let’s call her…Lisa S. No, that’s too obvious…uuuh, let’s say L. Simpson

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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:03:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:05:25am

this could have ended so much differently…

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:06:53am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

this could have ended so much differently…

[Embedded content]

Good thing for that dog momma bear wasn’t around.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:07:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:07:22am

re: #286 Big Beautiful Door

Good thing for that dog momma bear wasn’t around.

my thoughts exactly.

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:08:04am

This morning’s award-winning spam…

Fellow Patriot,

Obama’s sinister new agenda is unfolding (cue ominous music).

There’s a reason why he’s disarming millions (really?) while hoarding enough ammo for a 30 year land war (SRSLY?).

Sandy Hook’s got nothing to do with it. It’s way darker than that (dogs’ ears perk up all over the neighborhood)…

…and it’s all explained in this controversial video…that’s quickly becoming the #1topic on the web… (followed by obvious phishing link)

I wonder how many stupid RWNJs get sucked in by emails like this.

While I’m at it - why the fuck am I getting emails like this?

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:08:18am

re: #134 Dr. Matt

The Cruz supporting Rage Furby is certainly a yooge Trump fanboy:

[Embedded content]

Look at that painful, uncomfortable attempt of a grin on Katrina Pierson’s face.

My, my, Chucky and Katrina make a nice…

…couple of loons.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:08:43am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:09:13am

This is the stuff of nightmares.

Click to Reveal
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Tigger2  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:11:39am

re: #289 makeitstop

This morning’s award-winning spam…

I wonder how many stupid RWNJs get sucked in by emails like this.

While I’m at it - why the fuck am I getting emails like this?

Who the fuck has Obama unarmed. Those people aren’t Patriots the’re idiots.

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:12:57am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

this could have ended so much differently…

[Embedded content]

That’s one badass little dog!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:14:27am

In my office pool today we made our final selections for who we think will be the GOP nominee. I finally decided to go with Ted Cruz. If Trump falls short of the majority the GOP will pull out the stops to deny him the nomination, but if they also try to skip over Tea Party favorite Ted Cruz for Kasich or someone like Romney or Ryan the party could disintegrate. At the end of the day, Cruz is a standard GOP politician so I think that as loathed as he is they will nevertheless swing the nomination to him to try and save the party. It seems as realistic as any other scenario other than a Trump nomination.

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:14:41am

re: #293 Tigger2

Who the fuck has Obama unarmed.

MILLIONS!!!111ty

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:15:27am

re: #293 Tigger2

Who the fuck has Obama unarmed. Those people aren’t Patriots the’re idiots.

“Everyone BUT you and your friends have had all their weapons taken away. You are our last hope. Get Obama before he takes yours away as well.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:15:48am
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Jay C  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:17:46am

re: #289 makeitstop

This morning’s award-winning spam…

I wonder how many stupid RWNJs get sucked in by emails like this.

All of them, Katie….

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:18:02am

In keeping with the ‘Trump or raw chicken’ meme that showed up here yesterday. I like this one much better.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:19:05am

So, I saw the bit above about the House Freedom Caucus stabbing the GOP House Leaders in the back on a new budget.

I’ve seen that name used for them, but aren’t these just the Tea Party folks? And of course Ohio blockhead Rep Jim Jordan is one of the leaders along with good ol’ Raul Labrador. Do they sort of shy away from any identity now as Tea Party. I notice you don’t hear a lot of people saying Tea Party as much.

I guess ol’ Johnny Boehner is glad he is out mowing lawns and his buddy Paul Ryan gets stuck messing with the same idiots Boehner couldn’t control. Good that Ryan is getting a lesson in obstruction government.

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Tigger2  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:19:28am

re: #297 Belafon

“Everyone BUT you and your friends have had all their weapons taken away. You are our last hope. Get Obama before he takes yours away as well.”

The only problem with that scenario is it wouldn’t be Obama I would be against.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:20:05am

re: #252 freetoken

How did the Dem primary turn into a North/South battle?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:20:16am

re: #300 makeitstop

In keeping with the ‘Trump or raw chicken’ meme that showed up here yesterday. I like this one much better.

[Embedded content]

this one, too.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:22:17am

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

But Williamson isn’t wrong about Yiannopoulos. If folks here are that worried about Donald Trump, may I suggest you back off of his enemies on the right so that they have a better shot at tearing Trump down.

Awww gee Dark. Can’t we just allow the GOP craziness to tear down the whole party. It would be best for the country.

Can we huh? Can we?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:23:15am

I wish I hadn’t clicked on that alt-right hashtag in the Greg Sargent tweet above. That is all.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:24:49am

re: #303 Ming5000

How did the Dem primary turn into a North/South battle?

We are still shaking out the 1960’s and the Southern Strategy of the GOP.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:25:54am

LOL pwn3d

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:26:30am

heh

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:28:05am

re: #308 The Vicious Babushka

LOL pwn3d

When Abbott was AG here in Texas, he had a study done on voter fraud. It found….nothing. He knows there’s no voter fraud, and the only point of the idea is to disenfranchise voters.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:28:27am

re: #290 ObserverArt

My, my, Chucky and Katrina make a nice…

…couple of loons.

I just now checked out that photo. Katrina looks … uncomfortable, like a young girl would around a “funny uncle.”

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:29:34am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

I prefer this scenario: Ted Cruz’s campaign uses the DoJ’s refusal to indict Hillary Clinton to ignite a fire against federal corruption that burns so hot that Obama is confined to DC by crowds enraged with his administration’s favoritism. Cruz goes on to win the presidency with majorities in both houses of Congress, having kept a majority of Trump’s supporters by channeling their anger against HRC. Prior to inauguration day, Hillary flees to France to avoid a prison sentence for her email disaster.

I hope you get to feeling better. That must be a terrible fever you’re suffering. It seems to be making you confused and hallucinogenic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:29:59am

re: #311 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I just now checked out that photo. Katrina looks … uncomfortable, like a young girl would around a “funny uncle.”

Rage Furby is posting pictures this morning of his broken eyeglasses…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:30:18am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:32:47am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Now if he shoots a white man, well that is a whole different kettle of fish.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:34:24am

re: #312 ObserverArt

I hope you get to feeling better. That must be a terrible fever you’re suffering. It seems to be making you confused and hallucinogenic.

Believing in Conservatism requires leaving behind such mundane things as facts, evidence, and reason. Once you’ve bought into the idea that the only way to create jobs is to give the richest people in the history of the world EVEN MORE money, you’ll believe anything.

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Lidane  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:34:53am

*facepalm*

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:36:09am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rage Furby is posting pictures this morning of his broken eyeglasses…

You check his feed way more often than I do. I suggest a different hobby.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:37:20am

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

You call me a Nazi? You can go take a long walk off a short pier, Joe.

Did you not see Joe said he lost a son in a war? I would think you’d at least have the class to not spit back and appreciate the man’s ultimate sacrifice and why he was frustrated with the idiots that caused many a son, brother, husband, father to die.

It says a lot about you. And it is not good. You play war games in your head. His son is dead.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:37:59am

re: #317 Lidane

*facepalm*

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Homeless man shouts at passersby, but the media won’t cover it!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:40:16am
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withak  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:41:25am

re: #317 Lidane

*facepalm*

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I realize, if it were actually true and exposed, it would seriously damage Hillary’s electability.

But I have to ask: “So what if she has?”

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Agnostick  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:42:35am

Breitbart is the poser fratboy’s answer to Free Republic.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:43:00am

re: #252 freetoken

Dem primary results so far
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:43:39am

I’m going to migrate over to my bed. Maybe monitor the situation here with my cellphone. Or maybe I’ll just fall asleep.

Stay tuned for further developments.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:44:48am

re: #264 Jenner7

For all the fun we make of Trump supporters, Dems who vote for Trump (for whatever reason) are just as stupid.

That was probably mean, but I’ve got horrible allergies and I’m cranky.

Especially after what happened in Michigan

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:46:50am

Here’s a cool story: That time Donald Trump was fired by Canadian concert promoter Michael Cohl and the Rolling Stones

The 67 year-old went on to explain he and the real estate mogul first crossed paths toward the end of the Wheels tour. Cohl was planning a pay-per-view event based on the Vegas boxing model, which would net the Stones and himself a tidy sum. The only problem was that Vegas had yet to pick up on the power of Rock, so the promoter found himself turning to Atlantic City and that meant Trump.

“I opened my big mouth in the meeting with the Rolling Stones where they go, ‘This is all great, but we’re not going to be affiliated with Donald Trump. At all. Screw you.’ And I go, ‘I will control Donald Trump! Don’t you worry!’”

To satisfy all parties a deal was struck that Trump would not be on hand for the sold out shows, nor would he promote himself associated in any way with the Stones. But Trump being Trump, things didn’t go according to plan.

People tell me that Mick and Keef loathe Trump.

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TedStriker  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:47:08am

re: #100 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:47:25am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He always creates wiggle room in his statements. He only said he “had people looking into it” not directly boasting he would pay. Just like people looked into Obama’s Birth Certificate. Yeah right. It’s all meant to paint him as doing what the crazies want him to do. They’re too stupid to follow up, just glad their bully is checking it out for them.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:48:11am

re: #324 Ming5000

The map screams…

I think it is important to keep in mind that the choice of party one makes will be different based on one’s own local culture.

An Iowan choosing to register as an R or D will have a different political environment in which to live, than an Alabaman making the same choice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:49:20am

re: #329 ObserverArt

He always creates wiggle room in his statements. He only said he “had people looking into it” not directly boasting he would pay. Just like people looked into Obama’s Birth Certificate. Yeah right. It’s all meant to paint him as doing what the crazies want him to do. They’re too stupid to follow up, just glad their bully is checking it out for them.

He is the master of the Tweet and the sound byte. Taken separately, some his statements do not sound completely bat-shit crazy and catastrophically dangerous.

But he knows that his supporters are too politically ADD to look at the big picture, and even when confronted with contradictions and lies, simply gloss them over out of loyalty to the Trump brand.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:49:34am

re: #275 Tigger2

I never have tactical voted and never will.

I voted tactically once on Dancing with the Stars. Got burned. Learned my lesson.

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originalben  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:53:31am

re: #100 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

Thank you- many a fine point and sums up my feelings impressively well.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:53:57am

So I guess we’re calling this “Elimination Tuesday”.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:53:59am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

this one, too.

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Doggone…makes me hungry!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:54:44am

Ucch don’t even think about this

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:55:00am

“Separation Tuesday” is also being used, but “Elimination” sounds more exciting.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:55:33am

GAH. I just blocked another BernieBot HURR HURR I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE FOR HILLARY BECAUSE SHE LIED!!! SHE LIED ABOUT SO MUCH OF ALL TEH THINGS!!!11!!

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:55:42am

re: #334 freetoken

So I guess we’re calling this “Elimination Tuesday”.

I thought it was being called “Widespread Panic at Daily Kos” Tuesday.

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:57:10am

re: #334 freetoken

So I guess we’re calling this “Elimination Tuesday”.

Or ‘The Day of Execution’ (Blackstar reference, thanks, Bowie).

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:57:10am

re: #334 freetoken

So I guess we’re calling this “Elimination Tuesday”.

It’ll be over for Rubio soon enough. And likely for Kasich. It could even signal Cruz’s demise if Trump takes Ohio and gives Trump a commanding lead against everyone else.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:57:35am

re: #339 Belafon

I thought it was being called “Widespread Panic at Daily Kos” Tuesday.

Who’s being airlocked now?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:59:30am

It’s sad that I am actually rooting for Kasich to win Ohio tonight. Granted I want to watch them all tear the party apart at the convention.

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TedStriker  Mar 15, 2016 • 8:59:35am

re: #269 makeitstop

Bill Mumy weighs in. Not a bad idea.

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re: #271 Belafon

Since I can’t see facebook at work (and I know I’m not the only one) can you summarize?

re: #277 makeitstop

It would be real good if you all would join me in sending Donald Trump to the cornfield.

Because he’s a bad man. He’s a very bad man.

Thank you kindly.

Peace!

(With a pic of the kid who wishes people into the cornfield.)

That would actually be Mumy from that Twilight Zone episode.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:00:00am

re: #331 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He is the master of the Tweet and the sound byte. Taken separately, some his statements do not sound completely bat-shit crazy and catastrophically dangerous.

But he knows that his supporters are too politically ADD to look at the big picture, and even when confronted with contradictions and lies, simply gloss them over out of loyalty to the Trump brand.

Yep. He’s got a Honorary Doctorate in Bullshitology given for his life’s work in the field.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:00:45am

Delicious irony. The GOP had been delusionally hoping that Trump wouldn’t get to the Rule 40 threshold, since that would be an out for them to not support Trump at the convention, but he cleared it easily after winning the Marianas Islands within the last 24 hours.

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Jenner7  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:03:41am

Ugh. Salon is garbage.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:04:00am

Trump breaks 50% in national support for the first time

This is the first time Trump has garnered the support of a majority of Republican primary voters nationwide. YouGov’s February 24-27 survey marked his previous high, at 44% support.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:04:16am

Poll closings tonight(EST)

North Carolina at 7:30
Ohio at 7:30
Florida at 7:00 local time(Panhandle is in Central time zone)
Illinois 8:00 (7:00 local)
Missouri 8:00 (7:00 local)

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:04:21am

re: #342 lawhawk

Who’s being airlocked now?

Markos declared that if Sanders doesn’t show that he can close the gap on March 15th, it’s time to start thinking about the general election and people will no longer be able to call Clinton a Republican in disguise. You can imagine how well that’s gone over.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:06:06am

re: #336 The Vicious Babushka

Ucch don’t even think about this

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I don’t think those whites who voted for Obama and switch to vote for Trump would overcome the Whites who voted for Mitt going for the Dem candidate. I base it on Mitt’s own hatred for Trump and just plain disgust for Trump in the GOP. Add in what we’ve heard about increases in new immigrants requesting ballots and former non-voting Hispanics, Muslims, Asians turning out like never before.

There is going to be some major new wrinkles in this one. One reason I am not going to put a lot of my belief in polls this time. Too many new variables.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:06:29am

re: #350 Belafon

Ah.

Frankly, Bernie’s shown no ability to close the gap even after Super Tuesday. Heck, winning Michigan didn’t close the gap as Hillary grew her lead by decimating Bernie in Mississippi on the same day.

There’s no math here that favors Bernie. Not when the polls are all consistently showing Hillary with a lead. The Bernie fans need to believe that every last poll has been wrong about the lead, and that Bernie would pick up enough delegates to close the 200+ delegate lead (not counting supers). That just isn’t happening.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:07:30am

re: #339 Belafon

I thought it was being called “Widespread Panic at Daily Kos” Tuesday.

Noooooooo. Next time I go see Widespread Panic I don’t want this election to come to mind at all.

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Ming5000  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:08:45am

re: #100 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:09:29am

re: #352 lawhawk

Ah.

Frankly, Bernie’s shown no ability to close the gap even after Super Tuesday. Heck, winning Michigan didn’t close the gap as Hillary grew her lead by decimating Bernie in Mississippi on the same day.

There’s no math here that favors Bernie. Not when the polls are all consistently showing Hillary with a lead. The Bernie fans need to believe that every last poll has been wrong about the lead, and that Bernie would pick up enough delegates to close the 200+ delegate lead (not counting supers). That just isn’t happening.

And even if he were to win the Midwestern states, he is not going to win by more than a few percentage points or less. That means that the delegate split will be even at best for him. Add to the results in North Carolina that are expected- and Sanders will not make up any real ground. But you can bet that #BernTwitter will be ablaze for the next 48 hours counting all the states that Bernie won.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:10:03am

re: #351 ObserverArt

I don’t think those whites who voted for Obama and switch to vote for Trump would overcome the Whites who voted for Mitt going for the Dem candidate. I base it on Mitt’s own hatred for Trump and just plain disgust for Trump in the GOP. Add in what we’ve heard about increases in new immigrants requesting ballots and former non-voting Hispanics, Muslims, Asians turning out like never before.

There is going to be some major new wrinkles in this one. One reason I am not going to put a lot of my belief in polls this time. Too many new variables.

How is Voter ID going to impact the minority vote?

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:11:26am

re: #344 TedStriker

That would actually be Mumy from that Twilight Zone episode.

Yep. That’s what makes it delicious!

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:13:40am

re: #341 lawhawk

It’ll be over for Rubio soon enough. And likely for Kasich. It could even signal Cruz’s demise if Trump takes Ohio and gives Trump a commanding lead against everyone else.

I had the radio on in my car when I went to vote and then do a little shopping. Had it on in my kitchen while putting stuff away. There are some real nasty PAC commercials tearing Trump apart for being a dishonest gas bag about all his less than stellar accomplishments and his lack of any kind of leadership skills.

I sort of get the feeling Kasich is gonna eek out a win in Ohio today.

I was surprised there were as many folks voting at the school I go to vote. I got in there about 9:30 and there were about 10 machines set up and all were busy. I didn’t have to wait much, but it seemed to be a nice even flow. There were other signing in as I was leaving. More than I remember in any kind of primary at that time of the morning. It will really ramp up about 3:00 PM when people leave early form work, etc.

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Teukka  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:14:15am

I dunno if this has been posted yet:
c-span.org: Book Discussion Anatomy Fascism

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:15:24am

Look at this asshat not accepting Personal Responsibility==>

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:18:55am

I can’t believe so many dumbasses are falling for this unmitigated bullshit. We are so fucked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:19:14am

re: #338 The Vicious Babushka

GAH. I just blocked another BernieBot HURR HURR I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE FOR HILLARY BECAUSE SHE LIED!!! SHE LIED ABOUT SO MUCH OF ALL TEH THINGS!!!11!!

I ended up just muting the entire #FeelTheBern hashtag last night because of that.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:21:34am

re: #359 Teukka

Has some rather negative reviews at Amazon:

amazon.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:24:07am

Why is nobody sticking to the basic anti-DT point that he is in no way qualified for the office he is campaigning for?

Do people have such a skewered view of politics that they think an outsider with a strong personality can just come in, shake things up and make everything right?

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BeachDem  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:26:17am

re: #310 Belafon

When Abbott was AG here in Texas, he had a study done on voter fraud. It found….nothing. He knows there’s no voter fraud, and the only point of the idea is to disenfranchise voters.

My state rep was big on promoting a ZOMBIES ARE VOTING story here in south by dog carolina.

Rep. Alan Clemmons, a Horry County Republican, ran with Shwedo’s unsubstantiated claim, telling the public, “We must have certainty in South Carolina that zombies aren’t voting.”

But it turns out that, like most zombie stories, this was pure comic book plot. The South Carolina Law Enforcement Division conducted an 18-month investigation into whether dead people voted — and found not one legitimate case of any such thing happening.

southernstudies.org

And yes, he’s still my rep. Sigh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:26:17am

re: #360 The Vicious Babushka

Look at this asshat not accepting Personal Responsibility==>

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Every time I see Trump photos like that, the first thing I notice is the seriously oversized shoulder pads on his suit jackets. His shoulders disappear.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:27:17am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

Every time I see Trump photos like that, the first thing I notice is the seriously oversized shoulder pads on his suit jackets. His shoulders disappear.

Oversized shoulder pads are so ‘80’s.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:28:14am
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withak  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:29:13am

re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Why is nobody sticking to the basic anti-DT point that he is in no way qualified for the office he is campaigning for?

Do people have such a skewered view of politics that they think an outsider with a strong personality can just come in, shake things up and make everything right?

Based on various comments I’m seeing on Facebook, yes. Such comments typically include Nonstandard Capitalization of Words and spurious logic — one guy actually defending Trump’s not-immediate disavowing of Duke and the KKK — and extol him as a Political Outsider who will Bring back all teh Jobz.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:30:33am

re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Why is nobody sticking to the basic anti-DT point that he is in no way qualified for the office he is campaigning for?

Do people have such a skewered view of politics that they think an outsider with a strong personality can just come in, shake things up and make everything right?

Let’s assume that his business experience qualifies (outside of his real estate portfolio, he’s failed more often than not, but let’s set that aside for the moment).

He’s disqualified on basis of failing the character and judgment part of the equation. He repeatedly shows that he is amoral and displays a certain moral flexibility that enables torture, misogyny, bigotry, and hate.

And that started from day 1 of his campaign.

But then again, Trump’s positions aren’t out of line with the rest of the GOP. The only difference is style, not substance.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:31:32am

re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Why is nobody sticking to the basic anti-DT point that he is in no way qualified for the office he is campaigning for?

Do people have such a skewered view of politics that they think an outsider with a strong personality can just come in, shake things up and make everything right?

You’re starting from the problematic initial condition that Republicans think the president, and the government in general, is supposed to do anything other than issue threats and start wars.

That’s all they think the federal government is good for.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:31:51am

re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Why is nobody sticking to the basic anti-DT point that he is in no way qualified for the office he is campaigning for?

Do people have such a skewered view of politics that they think an outsider with a strong personality can just come in, shake things up and make everything right?

In my #358 comment I mention radio spots and TV ads here in Ohio do just that. Problem is though, they only started to show up late last week and really picked up over the weekend. They should have been on that a month ago. It shows just how organized some of the GOP leadership is…not.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:41:18am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:41:51am

re: #334 freetoken

So I guess we’re calling this “Elimination Tuesday”.

Its definitely elimination day for Rubio.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:44:39am
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withak  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:44:42am

re: #373 Dr. Matt

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Apparently The Donald’s been a TV character long before he was even on TV. Plenty of the lovely things he’s said about women were documented before 2004.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:45:43am

re: #341 lawhawk

It’ll be over for Rubio soon enough. And likely for Kasich. It could even signal Cruz’s demise if Trump takes Ohio and gives Trump a commanding lead against everyone else.

The latest polls indicate Kasich has a solid lead in Ohio. Of course, Michigan showed us that polls can be very wrong.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:45:46am

When one grasps some of the alternate denotations of “to eliminate”, “Elimination Tuesday” takes on a whole new meaning.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:46:28am

re: #374 Big Beautiful Door

Its definitely elimination day for Rubio.

Rubio and his people sounded like they are changing their tune. They said regardless of today’s outcomes, they will be heading to Utah.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:48:55am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:50:27am

re: #356 The Vicious Babushka

How is Voter ID going to impact the minority vote?

In probably has more of an effect in midterm elections when people aren’t motivated to vote anyway. In November, minorities are going to be highly motivated to vote, so I’m not worried.

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Kent Dorfman  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:50:40am

re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Do you have a list of the qualifications for the President of the United States? I believe there is an age requirement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:50:59am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:51:47am

re: #360 The Vicious Babushka

Look at this asshat not accepting Personal Responsibility==>

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YOU DAMN LIBTARDS FORCED US TO VOTE FOR TRUMP!!1!1!

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:53:22am

re: #379 Dr. Matt

Rubio and his people sounded like they are changing their tune. They said regardless of today’s outcomes, they will be heading to Utah.

That we’re seeing an increase in posts, like from Reince, saying that the candidates will back Trump if he’s the nominee, strongly suggests that Rubio is toast today, and that the GOP’s internal polling suggests it will be all over after today. And that includes OH and Kasich possibly winning his home state (if you can’t win your home state, you have no business running).

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:56:08am

re: #385 lawhawk

Supposedly Kasich stated that if he loses Ohio he will bow out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:56:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:57:32am
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Tigger2  Mar 15, 2016 • 9:59:00am
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Lidane  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:00:10am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:07:34am

re: #372 ObserverArt

In my #358 comment I mention radio spots and TV ads here in Ohio do just that. Problem is though, they only started to show up late last week and really picked up over the weekend. They should have been on that a month ago. It shows just how organized some of the GOP leadership is…not.

Though Nate Silver says early advertising has very little effect on voters.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:08:00am

Baby Whiplash, still delusional==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:08:11am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:08:17am

re: #375 The Vicious Babushka

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The New Jim Crow

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:09:20am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:09:28am

re: #379 Dr. Matt

Rubio and his people sounded like they are changing their tune. They said regardless of today’s outcomes, they will be heading to Utah.

They always say that just before they withdraw. Then they realize they are broke and irrelevant.

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:10:26am

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Man the Fundies are gonna lose their shit over that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:10:41am
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b.d.  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:10:49am

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash, still delusional==>

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Trump is THE LEFT.

That is obviously why he is getting more votes than any other “conservative” running in the GOP primary?

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:11:05am

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash, still delusional==>

Which is why Republicans are voting for him, obviously. That way, when it’s Trump vs. a Democrat, the Republicans will then vote for….

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Timothy Watson  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:12:19am

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash, still delusional==>

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Nice to see that he still hasn’t developed any self-awareness.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:12:52am

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

Holy crap, I thought maybe that was just snark/parody, but it’s for real:

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CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:13:39am

re: #402 CuriousLurker

Sorry, reload the above for the PDF.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:13:57am

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s in the picture?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:15:24am

re: #402 CuriousLurker

Holy crap, I thought maybe that was just snark/parody, but it’s for real:

It’s WITCHERY!!!11!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:17:18am

re: #404 Belafon

What’s in the picture?

House Resolution 642 promoting magic.
Sponsored by Pete Sessions, no less.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:17:25am

re: #404 Belafon

What’s in the picture?

A screenshot of this.

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b.d.  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:18:11am

re: #402 CuriousLurker

Holy crap, I thought maybe that was just snark/parody, but it’s for real:

[Embedded content]

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wrenchwench  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:18:21am

re: #397 makeitstop

Man the Fundies are gonna lose their shit over that.

Unless they see it as their ticket to government protection of their beliefs.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:19:15am

re: #402 CuriousLurker

Holy crap, I thought maybe that was just snark/parody, but it’s for real:

[Embedded content]

This is in there:

Whereas futurist Arthur C. Clarke claimed that any sufficiently
advanced technology is indistinguishable from
magic;

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Stanley Sea  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:19:27am

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

SMFH

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b.d.  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:19:35am

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s WITCHERY!!!11!!!

HOCUS POCUS!

It didn’t work….Trump is still the frontrunner

CRAP!!

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:20:07am

re: #412 b.d.

HOCUS POCUS!

It didn’t work….Trump is still the frontrunner

CRAP!!

I believe that requires some of the forbidden spells from Harry Potter.

414
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:21:41am

Electricity…you can’t see it.
Must be magic!!!

(I saw that in one of those Christian home school science books.)

415
Lidane  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:21:55am

Shocka! Trumpy isn’t just tacky in his home decor. He also has no taste in food:

416
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:22:12am

cleveland convention: red wedding

417
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:22:49am

re: #415 Lidane

That North Korea guy does his own hair, too…

418
b.d.  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:24:18am

re: #413 Belafon

I believe that requires some of the forbidden spells from Harry Potter.

“I used to believe in what they taught us at Sunday School,” said Ashley, conjuring up an ancient spell to summon Cerebus, the three-headed hound of hell. “But the Harry Potter books showed me that magic is real, something I can learn and use right now, and that the Bible is nothing but boring lies.”

theonion.com

Harry Potter Books Spark Rise In Satanism Among Children

419
Barefoot Grin  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:24:28am

re: #363 freetoken

Has some rather negative reviews at Amazon:

amazon.com

I haven’t read Paxton’s book, but the bad reviews seem to fall into two overlapping camps: one states that readers should avoid this crap and read Jonah Goldberg’s insightful study of liberal fascism; the other that Paxton is way too soft on communism (and, in some cases, that in some ways fascism and communism are nearly indistinguishable). I’ll have to read it when I can take some time away from my vital internet posting.

420
Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:24:33am

re: #416 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

cleveland convention: red wedding

Must see TV

421
plansbandc  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:25:03am

Amused.

newyorker.com

422
CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:25:34am

re: #410 Belafon

This is in there:

I’m…

423
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:25:55am

I don’t know if this meme is serious or parody==>

424
lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:25:59am

re: #413 Belafon

Think we might have to call upon some spells from The Magicians. More advanced than anything in Potter.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:26:45am

re: #416 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Perhaps it is Cercei’s walk of shame more than Red Wedding. I think Super Tuesday/Super Tuesday II could be considered the Red Wedding given all the candidates forced to quit.

426
wrenchwench  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:27:53am

re: #423 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t know if this meme is serious or parody==>

[Embedded content]

Thugs = people with poor credit ratings.

Sounds familiar.

427
Romantic Heretic  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:27:57am

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’d know.

428
makeitstop  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:28:09am

re: #423 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t know if this meme is serious or parody==>

[Embedded content]

If they implemented that, his rallies would be empty.

Half the dopes who go to them probably don’t even have credit cards.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:29:06am

re: #426 wrenchwench

Thugs = people with poor credit ratings.

Sounds familiar.

But wouldn’t that also eliminate most of Trump’s supporters?

430
Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:29:10am

re: #424 lawhawk

Think we might have to call upon some spells from The Magicians. More advanced than anything in Potter.

I wonder if we’re going to need Dr. Strange.

431
Testy Toad T  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:29:20am

re: #428 makeitstop

I’d wager that 80% of the dopes at Trump events carry a five-figure credit card balance.

432
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:29:43am
433
GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:34:06am

IL will go Bernie. Hillary will get everything else today.

Kasich may just pull off Ohio. Not that it matters. Trump will win everything else handily.

434
Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:35:41am

re: #433 GlutenFreeJesus

IL will go Bernie. Hillary will get everything else today.

Kasich may just pull off Ohio. Not that it matters. Trump will win everything else handily.

It does matter, because without the Ohio delegates, Trump’s path to 1,237 delegates gets harder.

435
lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:36:12am

Trump supporters are lightweights when it comes to Trump’s plans. Expose his plans as vaporware and they flip to how no one has a perfect plan.

Trump doesn’t have any actual plans, and what little he has on his website has been shown to be entirely unworkable or so much BS (like his tax plan, which would massively expand the debt, or the health care plan that would mean millions lose their coverage and are left with far worse than nothing, or the fence, which ignores that Trump admits that he would use natural barriers to cover portions of the border - like now).

436
Franklin  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:36:32am

re: #432 The Vicious Babushka

Best quote:

That’s when the protesters made themselves known. A group of young black women and men revealed signs that said “Dump Trump” and “Down with Donald.” One man from Pittsburgh ripped off his long sleeve shirt to reveal a white shirt underneath, reading “Donald Drumpf has tiny hands.”

437
wrenchwench  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:37:13am

re: #429 The Vicious Babushka

But wouldn’t that also eliminate most of Trump’s supporters?

Poverty crosses all lines. Attitudes about the poor are held by everyone, including the poor.

438
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:38:57am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

POTUS on 2016 election climate: “We’ve accepted this as somehow the new normal…and it has to stop”

Translated as: OBAMA WANTS TO BAN ELECTIONS AND BECOME PRESIDENT-FOR-LIFE!!!

(I just passed 59.9K updings, so keep them coming, folks, I wanna break 60K before my birthday in two weeks!)

439
lawhawk  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:39:28am

re: #434 Big Beautiful Door

Harder, but not that much so. He’ll still have essentially put Cruz and Rubio out of our collective misery. Kasich hasn’t shown any ability to gain traction and holding your own state isn’t that big of a hurdle (though Rubio shows that to be enough of one).

The GOP is entering a bunch of winner take all states, and if Trump crushes it excluding OH, he’s still going to go into those next states with a commanding lead over everyone else.

It is inevitable, and the GOP are coming around to this realization. They’ll be into the 4th stage of Trumpism tomorrow, and by accepting by the weekend. Even NRO. Just you watch.

440
Belafon  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:40:35am

re: #438 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If you’re updinging average is like mine, you’ll need to make about 400 comments to clear it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:40:41am
442
Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:41:02am

re: #438 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Translated as: OBAMA WANTS TO BAN ELECTIONS AND BECOME PRESIDENT-FOR-LIFE!!!

(I just passed 59K updings, so keep them coming, folks, I wanna break 60K before my birthday in two weeks!)

Post an epic rant like Ghost’s and you’ll be there in no time.

443
GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:42:21am

re: #434 Big Beautiful Door

If Cruz wins Ohio, sure. But I don’t think Trump can be stopped at this point.

Guess we will see.

444
Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:44:46am

re: #439 lawhawk

Harder, but not that much so. He’ll still have essentially put Cruz and Rubio out of our collective misery. Kasich hasn’t shown any ability to gain traction and holding your own state isn’t that big of a hurdle (though Rubio shows that to be enough of one).

The GOP is entering a bunch of winner take all states, and if Trump crushes it excluding OH, he’s still going to go into those next states with a commanding lead over everyone else.

It is inevitable, and the GOP are coming around to this realization. They’ll be into the 4th stage of Trumpism tomorrow, and by accepting by the weekend. Even NRO. Just you watch.

Personally I doubt it. Most Republicans realize they can’t explicitly become a white nationalist party without getting crushed in the general election, and right now McConnell is in survival mode, just trying to figure out how to retain his Senate majority. But we’ll see.

445
Great White Snark  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:45:15am
About Trumps wall

Paged

446
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:46:32am

re: #444 Big Beautiful Door

Personally I doubt it. Most Republicans realize they can’t explicitly become a white nationalist party without getting crushed in the general election,

It’s just so hard to let go of a dream like that…

447
Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:47:45am

re: #443 GlutenFreeJesus

If Cruz wins Ohio, sure. But I don’t think Trump can be stopped at this point.

Guess we will see.

Cruz has a good chance of winning Missouri, and with Rubio knocked out he and Kasich will pick up much of Rubio’s support. The polls indicate Kasich will win Ohio. I think there is a very good chance that Trump doesn’t reach 1,237 delegates, though I can’t put a percentage on it.

448
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:47:59am

re: #446 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It’s just so hard to let go of a dream like that…

See the fever dreams shared earlier in the thread.

449
CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:48:00am

re: #438 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Two weeks? It’s a cinch—you’re already at 59,916.

450
wrenchwench  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:48:10am

re: #444 Big Beautiful Door

Personally I doubt it. Most Republicans realize they can’t explicitly become a white nationalist party without getting crushed in the general election, and right now McConnell is in survival mode, just trying to figure out how to retain his Senate majority. But we’ll see.

I feed off of your reality-based optimism, or at least upding it.

451
Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:48:33am

re: #446 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It’s just so hard to let go of a dream like that…

Well Mitch McConnell realizes it anyway.

452
Nyet  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:49:29am

re: #407 CuriousLurker

Whereas futurist Arthur C. Clarke claimed that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic;

Seems like these idiots didn’t understand that Clarke didn’t mean visual trickery.

453
Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:50:51am

re: #450 wrenchwench

I feed off of your reality-based optimism, or at least upding it.

Thanks. If I thought I lived in a country in which Donald Trump could actually win the presidential election, I’d be looking for a wormhole to the alternative universe I thought I was living in.

454
freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:51:06am

On CBS News… Drumpfskind spokesperson Bullet-necklace claims that some of Drumpfskind’s quotes being used by his opponents in attack ads are from Drumpfs “character” on TV..

Bwahahahaha… this is sooo like the Hulk Hogan/Terry Bollea statement from the stand about Hulk Hogan’s claims of penis size….

I guess if it works for Hulk Hogan, it can work for Drumpfskind.

455
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:51:08am

re: #452 Nyet

Seems like these idiots didn’t understand that Clarke didn’t mean visual trickery.

“Magic” is a term that is so undefined and undefinable as to make it useless as part of any sort of legal language.

456
wrenchwench  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:51:54am

To repeat: #BeBoldEndHyde.

457
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:54:28am

Kentucky now has online voter registration.

458
Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:54:43am

re: #456 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

To repeat: #BeBoldEndHyde.

Here is a reason we badly need to win control of the Senate in November. I believe that if Hillary is elected President and the GOP retains control of the Senate, they will just leave the vacancy on the Supreme Court unfilled until at least 2019, and possibly for her entire first term.

459
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:55:05am

Trump campaign makes all its volunteers sign a contract that THEY WILL NEVER CRITICIZE TRUMP OR ANY MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY OR HIS BUSINESSES FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES==>

No Disparagement. During the term of your service and at all times thereafter you hereby promise and agree not to demean or disparage publicly the Company, Mr. Trump, any Trump Company, any Family Member, or any Family Member Company or any asset any of the foregoing own, or product or service any of the foregoing offer, in each case by or in any of the Restricted Means and Contexts and to prevent your employees from doing so.

460
Nyet  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:55:33am

re: #455 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“Magic” is a term that is so undefined and undefinable as to make it useless as part of any sort of legal language.

Stage magic is well-defined.

461
withak  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:57:16am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

Trump campaign makes all its volunteers sign a contract that THEY WILL NEVER CRITICIZE TRUMP OR ANY MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY OR HIS BUSINESSES FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES==>

[Embedded content]

I’m no law-talkin’ guy, but that seems laughably unenforcable.

462
freetoken  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:57:34am

Yes, CBS News is now discussing this issue of being “in character” being different than the real person…

463
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:57:34am

re: #460 Nyet

Stage magic is well-defined.

Is that what the bill is about?

464
Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:58:46am

re: #462 freetoken

Yes, CBS News is now discussing this issue of being “in character” being different than the real person…

Didn’t we already know that Donald Trump, the candidate, is a reality tv character being played by Donald Trump?

465
wrenchwench  Mar 15, 2016 • 10:59:57am

Welcome, hatchling.

466
Stanley Sea  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:00:11am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

Trump campaign makes all its volunteers sign a contract that THEY WILL NEVER CRITICIZE TRUMP OR ANY MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY OR HIS BUSINESSES FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES==>

[Embedded content]

All those apprentice wanna be’s signed it too. Amazing.

467
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:00:22am

re: #463 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Is that what the bill is about?

That’s probably why they included all those professional magicians in the text.

We’re just supposed to ignore the other ridiculous parts.

468
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:01:26am

re: #461 withak

I’m no law-talkin’ guy, but that seems laughably unenforcable.

That would not stop Trump from doing legal harassment to each and every volunteer who talks trash about him, the same as he is “counter-suing” every individual who is part of the Trump University lawsuit.

469
Timothy Watson  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:01:39am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

Trump campaign makes all its volunteers sign a contract that THEY WILL NEVER CRITICIZE TRUMP OR ANY MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY OR HIS BUSINESSES FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES==>

[Embedded content]

How can you make a legally enforceable contract with a volunteer?

470
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:02:07am

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s probably why they included all those professional magicians in the text.

We’re just supposed to ignore the other ridiculous parts.

Stage magic is a fine thing. Everything about art is about convincing us that things are real.

471
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:02:39am

re: #469 Timothy Watson

How can you make a legally enforceable contract with a volunteer?

The purpose is to bully and intimidate.

472
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:05:22am

This goes way beyond Jimmy Johns making its employees sign a “non-compete” contract that prohibits them from working at any other business that sells sandwiches for two years after leaving Jimmy Johns.

473
Nyet  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:06:38am

re: #463 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Is that what the bill is about?

Umm, of course. You have read it, no?

474
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:06:47am

re: #472 The Vicious Babushka

This goes way beyond Jimmy Johns making its employees sign a “non-compete” contract that prohibits them from working at any other business that sells sandwiches for two years after leaving Jimmy Johns.

I believe that such a clause is only valid if you continue to pay the person’s salary…

475
ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:06:57am

re: #415 Lidane

Shocka! Trumpy isn’t just tacky in his home decor. He also has no taste in food:

Mediaite ‎@Mediaite

Dispatches from Trump’s Butler: He Likes Well Done Steak and Does His Own Hair bit.ly

12:44 PM - 15 Mar 2016

Crispy hair…crispy steaks…crispy personality.

It makes sense. Burn Trump!

476
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:07:32am

re: #473 Nyet

Umm, of course. You have read it, no?

Because I should familiarize myself with such a vital piece of legislation?

477
Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:09:01am

Obama is making tourist trips to Cuba effectively legal, though technically still prohibited.

vox.com

478
Nyet  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:09:21am

re: #476 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because I should familiarize myself with such a vital piece of legislation?

If you want to comment on it, yeah.

479
ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:12:35am

Damn…Hillary’s folks are working it here in Ohio/Columbus.

I’m writing emails looking for freelance work and in the last hour and a half I’ve gotten two phone texts from Clinton people reminding me to vote and a link to find polling places and another reminder to vote and a link to a site to help do some phone canvassing.

I don’t remember Obama even doing that last elections.

480
Nyet  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:14:29am

re: #479 ObserverArt

I only hope the Dems won’t shoot themselves in the foot again with imbecilic tactical voting.

481
BeachDem  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:20:02am

re: #479 ObserverArt

Damn…Hillary’s folks are working it here in Ohio/Columbus.

I’m writing emails looking for freelance work and in the last hour and a half I’ve gotten two phone texts from Clinton people reminding me to vote and a link to find polling places and another reminder to vote and a link to a site to help do some phone canvassing.

I don’t remember Obama even doing that last elections.

The day before the primary here, Hillary’s campaign sent multiple emails about helping to find your polling place; Bernie’s sent only fundraising appeals.

482
Patricia Kayden  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:41:22am

re: #348 freetoken

Trump breaks 50% in national support for the first time

Encouraging physical assaults on POCs at your rally is a sure winner. This should encourage Trump to take his violent rhetoric to an even lower depth. Oh joy.

483
Patricia Kayden  Mar 15, 2016 • 11:44:26am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

Would love to see what the fall out is for breaking that contract (which sounds unenforceable). Not surprising that an egomaniac like Trump would require volunteers to sign their free speech rights away forever just to be part of his campaign.

484
Eventual Carrion  Mar 15, 2016 • 12:10:23pm

re: #454 freetoken

On CBS News… Drumpfskind spokesperson Bullet-necklace claims that some of Drumpfskind’s quotes being used by his opponents in attack ads are from Drumpfs “character” on TV..

Bwahahahaha… this is sooo like the Hulk Hogan/Terry Bollea statement from the stand about Hulk Hogan’s claims of penis size….

I guess if it works for Hulk Hogan, it can work for Drumpfskind.

So, admitting that reality TV is setup and scripted. Nobody is really themselves, it is all bullshit. Like professional wrestling? Wonder if his followers will let that sink in.

485
retired cynic  Mar 15, 2016 • 4:25:55pm

re: #479 ObserverArt

I got a text from her several days ago, and another text reminder today, with a link to finding my polling place. Illinois.

486
Jebediah, RBG  Mar 16, 2016 • 11:54:05am

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

You call me a Nazi? You can go take a long walk off a short pier, Joe.

And once again, you fluff up a personal affront to avoid addressing the substantial part of his comment, which is all in his second paragraph. Your team has a hell of a lot more to answer for than does Hillary.


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