Video: Keith Olbermann on Trump’s Repeated Incitement of Violence Against Hillary Clinton

Donald Trump’s sick infatuation with the assassination of Hillary Clinton must be repudiated
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Keith Olbermann is mad about this, and he should be. Everyone should be. Honestly, it’s a disgrace that the media and much of the public don’t seem to care about one of the worst things Trump has been doing.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:05:05pm

I love the New Thread smell.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:05:36pm

Hillary is giving a great speech here==>
Too bad the networks would rather broadcast Trump being Hitler.

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BeachDem  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:07:41pm

Charles P. Pierce steps in:
I will never stop hating this election for the incredible deluge of Stupid it has loosed upon the country. It is the pure product of the forces driving the Trump campaign in concert with the attempt to make sense of it without accounting for the pure hate without which that campaign would not exist at all. There is nothing worthwhile about it. It does not raise serious questions with which the country must grapple. It is merely a giant loogie hocked at people whom most Trump supporters have been trained over 40 years to hate.esquire.com

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Dr. Matt  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:07:44pm

Speaking of inciting violence by Trump and his deplorable cultists…..

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:07:49pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:08:47pm

I am surprised we got through the RNC fisticuff-free, but I expect that it will come to blows between observers and supporters from various camps on Election Day.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:11:02pm

re: #3 BeachDem

Charles P. Pierce steps in:
I will never stop hating this election for the incredible deluge of Stupid it has loosed upon the country. It is the pure product of the forces driving the Trump campaign in concert with the attempt to make sense of it without accounting for the pure hate without which that campaign would not exist at all. There is nothing worthwhile about it. It does not raise serious questions with which the country must grapple. It is merely a giant loogie hocked at people whom most Trump supporters have been trained over 40 years to hate.esquire.com

Pierce is being silly. He should thank “the election” for ripping the band-aid off the country’s sucking chest wound. Maybe we can start treatment now.

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Jenner7  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:13:01pm

Fucking hell.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:15:12pm

re: #8 Jenner7

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Fucking hell.

But one of his really good friends swore by it.

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:15:21pm

Huffington Post’s top article at the moment cites the tweet by LGF’s Goddamned Frank Frankly My Dear calling out CNN for its “just asking questions” chyron on whether the accused bomber in New York and New Jersey “deserves due process.”

huffingtonpost.com;

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:15:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:16:23pm
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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:17:26pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

Pierce is being silly. He should thank “the election” for ripping the band-aid off the country’s sucking chest wound. Maybe we can start treatment now.

im with you
it was always there, alas
the circumstances of this campaign have shined a light on it
that it may have gained some kind of temporary legitimacy is my second alas

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:18:35pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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PS - These are shitty jobs ask any server

what’s stopped him up to now?

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Belafon  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:19:47pm

re: #14 dangerman

what’s stopped him up to now?

Not being allowed to kick the blacks out of those neighborhoods.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:20:42pm

We all knew Frank when he was just a little person like the rest of us….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:20:59pm

heh

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:22:06pm

mr m. is on fire

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:23:01pm

SMOTI retweeted this==>


Um, yeah, because only racists, fascists & shitbags post in the YouTube comments
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:23:41pm

re: #8 Jenner7

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Fucking hell.

The important thing is not whether it’s constitutional - It’s not.

Or whether it’s effective - It’s not.

The important thing is that it kept black and brown people feeling like second class citizens and made white people feel like they were safe from them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:23:52pm

Is he talking about Scott Baio?

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:24:11pm

Well, I didn’t see Mr. Johnson’s comment go up about Mr. Frank before I posted mine. I’ll blame a solar flare or something.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:24:19pm

re: #16 Dr. Matt

We all knew Frank when he was just a little person like the rest of us….

Will he still answer our phone calls?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:25:25pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So, busboys and chambermaids. It’s what they’re good for, I guess.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:27:26pm
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Scottishdragon  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:27:30pm

Hillary Clinton:

“The Clinton Foundation is doing important and life saving work around the world.”

The “liberal” media:

What is she hiding? Pay for play? Why do those rich and powerful people she has known for 25 years give to that charity she helped found? We have to run a dozen stories at least to get people to ask questions!

Trump:

“Somebody ought to take away Hillary’s Secret Service protection so that Real American Patriots can do some Second Amendment stuff to her! Don’t you think, everybody? Crooked Hillary needs to be exposed to some Second Amendment Solutions! “(applause)

The “liberal” media:

That Trump just says the craziest stuff! The man is a ratings gold mine!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:30:08pm

re: #26 Scottishdragon

Hillary Clinton:

“The Clinton Foundation is doing important and life saving work around the world.”

The “liberal” media:

What is she hiding? Pay for play? Why do those rich and powerful people she has known for 25 years give to that charity she helped found? We have to run a dozen stories at least to get people to ask questions!

Trump:

“Somebody ought to take away Hillary’s Secret Service protection so that Real American Patriots can do some Second Amendment stuff to her! Don’t you think, everybody? Crooked Hillary needs to be exposed to some Second Amendment Solutions! “(applause)

The “liberal” media:

That Trump just says the craziest stuff! The man is a ratings gold mine!

Well, you know, the Liberal Media are Liberal because they sometimes ask for things like ‘evidence’.

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Scottishdragon  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:31:54pm

re: #27 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, you know, the Liberal Media are Liberal because they sometimes ask for things like ‘evidence’.

The GOP has been “working the ref” for 40 years. It has been shockingly effective.

Can you see Edward R Murrow being cowed by Trump the way the NYT has been?

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:32:56pm

Jim Wright knocks another essay out of the park, noting that this seems to be the Republican Party’s George Wallace moment. (He describes that as the moment the Democratic Party decided it no longer wanted someone with his views to represent the party as its nominee.)

stonekettle.com

He notes he saw George Wallace at a campaign rally in Michigan in 1972 and how that affected him.

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Scottishdragon  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:36:17pm

The Trump charity scam may have been the thing to break the media logjam on reporting Trump grifter stories.

The Guardian:

theguardian.com

Imagine if Hillary Clinton had a 6ft portrait of herself painted for a charity auction. Then Bill bid it up and paid for it with $20,000 from the Clinton Foundation. And the Clinton Foundation donated $100,000 to the ACLU or Naral.

Then imagine that she spent $258,000 from the foundation to cover expenses arising from legal challenges.

And here’s the really beautiful bit: imagine that the Clinton Foundation has no discernible purpose as a charity.

If the Clinton Foundation had done all of these things, Hillary (and perhaps Bill and Chelsea too) might well be headed to prison, the place Donald Trump and his supporters insist she belongs.

There is a clear disparity in the attention focused on Clinton’s supposed ethics problems and Trump’s

But it’s the Trump Foundation, not the Clinton Foundation, which reportedly bought a portrait of its namesake, settled legal claims for him, donated money to a rightwing advocacy group and whose purpose is somewhat opaque.

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:37:46pm

re: #30 Scottishdragon

The Trump charity scam may have been the thing to break the media logjam on reporting Trump grifter stories.

The Guardian:

theguardian.com

Yeah, but the Guardian is one of those liberal British papers. /s

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retired cynic  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:37:51pm

re: #30 Scottishdragon

Two portraits, I think. Double the fun.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:37:52pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You and me both, sister.

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Great White Snark  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:38:13pm

Blog rule question-Are “open letters’ like this one from Responsible Scientists okay to Page in full? Like a press release right?

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Jenner7  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:41:21pm

This election is giving me cancer…

And that’s probably insensitive, but god damn it, I need to laugh.

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:42:04pm

re: #34 Great White Snark

Blog rule question-Are “open letters’ like this one from Responsible Scientists okay to Page in full? Like a press release right?

You could send an E-mail and ask them:

Members of the media interested in speaking with one of the organizers of the letter should contact responsiblescientists@gmail.com

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:44:42pm

re: #34 Great White Snark

Blog rule question-Are “open letters’ like this one from Responsible Scientists okay to Page in full? Like a press release right?

It’s one of the many things that won’t load for me, but let me ask you this: Is there any benefit to the author or publisher that would be denied if they didn’t get the click-thru? If so, give them the click by not re-publishing the whole thing. If not, I don’t know, but I would think it’s OK.

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Scottishdragon  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:47:05pm

Jesus this is good…

…None of this is surprising, of course. Trump is a liar and a crook, and he commits abominable acts at such a frenetic pace that they get lost in the fury surrounding whatever horrible thing he does next. Keith Olbermann needed over 17 minutes on this site just to list a fraction of the atrocities Trump has staged during election season, and he’s gonna need 17 more minutes to cover what happens between now and Election Day. Remember when Trump said he would get rid of food regulations? That was Thursday.

Regardless, in the end, people are still gonna vote for this man. Maybe not enough to get him elected, but still: it’ll be in the tens of millions. (Note to the people causing the polls to fluctuate: What the fuck is wrong with you? I gotta meet the five percent of people who saw Hillary come down with pneumonia and were like, “Forget her, gimme the dictator with dryer lint hair.”) Nothing that Trump says, no damning piece of Trump reportage, and certainly no opinion piece like this one will stop his voters from pulling the lever. Nor will anything stop Trump from being the officious, braindead goon that he is. He will never answer for his crimes, and there’s a frighteningly large portion of the electorate that will always love him for that.

And so I’d just like to say to that portion of the electorate: Fuck you. No, seriously. Go fuck yourselves. I’m not gonna waste any more time trying to convince you that you’re about to do something you’ll regret forever. I’m not gonna show you old clips of Trump saying rotten things. I’m not gonna try to ANNIHILATE Trump by showing you records of his hypocrisy and greed. I’m not gonna link to a John Oliver clip and be like, “THIS. So much this.” Nothing’s gonna take down Trump at this point, so I’m not gonna bother. No no, this post is for ME. I am preaching to the sad little choir in my soul here.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:48:06pm

He’s opened a Pandora’s box. I’m scared CENSOREDLESS about the consequences!

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:52:43pm

PersonalOff-Topic: Went to the Cheyenne VA yesterday for elbow surgery pre-op. Surgery next week, after which y’all will likely be free from having to read my drivel for a couple weeks while my elbow is recovering from being sliced up.

After that visit, I went to Warren AFB to stock up on tax-free liquor.

I’ve been in pain for a year, ever since I woke up in the middle of the night screaming in a Polish hotel room causing the chambermaids and management in the hotel to come running to our room to find out who’d been murdered.

(That sounds like it could be a novel.)

Anyway, the orthopaedic surgeon decided the problem is the tendons in my elbow need to be removed from the bone, debreeded, then reattached. (This is the same surgeon who did the Duyputren’s Contracture surgeries on my hands, which were successful.)

Got the usual list of potential problems: You could lose use of your left arm, you could be in worse pain, you could die from in infection or anaesthesia, you know, simple stuff.

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Great White Snark  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:53:43pm

re: #40 Anymouse

Yikes, well may all go smooth and you heal well.

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:53:48pm

re: #40 Anymouse

Good luck and hope for positive results!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:54:42pm

re: #40 Anymouse


Got the usual list of potential problems: You could lose use of your left arm, you could be in worse pain, you could die from in infection or anaesthesia, you know, simple stuff.

Bummer. Can I have your watch?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:54:47pm
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freetoken  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:55:33pm

re: #38 Scottishdragon

There is a non-trivial portion of the American electorate who are lost in the 21st century… they were also lost in the 20th century too. Lots of bitter people out there, bitter about having their world change around them, powerless to stop it.

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:55:50pm

re: #39 Joe Bacon

He’s opened a Pandora’s box. I’m scared CENSOREDLESS about the consequences!

The Jim Wright article I linked above notes that Mr. Wright said he saw far worse in 1968 and 1972 (and details it).

He is not unconcerned about this election, of course. He puts in perspective some of the awful things that have happened before in this country.

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:56:31pm

re: #43 Decatur Deb

Bummer. Can I have your watch?

No, I don’t wear a watch. But if I were to lose use of my arm, I won’t be able to play my hammered dulcimer any more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:56:56pm
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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:57:35pm

re: #40 Anymouse

best wishes on the surgery and results
as for this:

after which y’all will likely be free from having to read my drivel for a couple weeks while my elbow is recovering from being sliced up.

nope. no excuses. type with one hand
(yes im assuming you have another one)

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:57:56pm

re: #47 Anymouse

No, I don’t wear a watch. But if I were to lose use of my arm, I won’t be able to play my hammered dulcimer any more.

Maybe Krager’s younger daughter could get some use from it….

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:58:38pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:58:46pm

re: #49 dangerman

best wishes on the surgery and results
as for this:

nope. no excuses. type with one hand
(yes im assuming you have another one)

Yes I have another. Or, I could get my wife to type for me. /s

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 21, 2016 • 12:59:00pm

The Trump cultural axis (alt-right, tea party) is full of people who believe practically as an article of faith that they would have a crushing advantage in the use of force. They are “manly men” with “all the guns,” not encumbered by the corrosively debilitating effects of feminism and homosexuality.
They can have the kind of society they want if only “the gloves come off” and the liberals are disposed of in a violent showdown.
This has been part of the sub-text of cultural conservatism for decades.

When he threatens Hillary and effectively calls for genocide, Trump is playing to this mentality.
It is, of course, a stupid, sick fantasy. If worse comes to worst, it will sent thousands of them to an early grave, and thousands more to prison.

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:00:07pm

re: #52 Anymouse

Yes I have another. Or, I could get my wife to type for me. /s

There’s always voice recognition. /

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:00:17pm

re: #29 Anymouse

Jim Wright knocks another essay out of the park, noting that this seems to be the Republican Party’s George Wallace moment. (He describes that as the moment the Democratic Party decided it no longer wanted someone with his views to represent the party as its nominee.)

stonekettle.com

He notes he saw George Wallace at a campaign rally in Michigan in 1972 and how that affected him.

its a very good article

and the republicans have not nearly hit bottom yet

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danarchy  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:01:06pm

re: #52 Anymouse

Yes I have another. Or, I could get my wife to type for me. /s

Voice recognition is getting damn good these days

shop.nuance.com

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:01:42pm

re: #47 Anymouse

No, I don’t wear a watch. But if I were to lose use of my arm, I won’t be able to play my hammered dulcimer any more.

Did you know you can use a hammered dulcimer and a simple rolling pin to slice sheets of pasta fresca into spaghettini? But I have one of these, so I don’t need yours.

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:01:59pm

re: #53 Shiplord Kirel

The Trump cultural axis (alt-right, tea party) is full of people who believe practically as an article of faith that they would have a crushing advantage in the use of force. They are “manly men” with “all the guns,” not encumbered by the corrosively debilitating effects of feminism and homosexuality.
They can have the kind of society they want if only “the gloves come off” and the liberals are disposed of in a violent showdown.
This has been part of the sub-text of cultural conservatism for decades.

When he threatens Hillary and effectively calls for genocide, Trump is playing to this mentality.
It is, of course, a stupid, sick fantasy. If worse comes to worst, it will sent thousands of them to an early grave, and thousands more to prison.

They also seem to think the entire military would be behind them and there wouldn’t be a massive resignation of the officer corps and desertions by enlisted personnel, police, &c. They also seem to think that liberals wouldn’t defend themselves.

They also seem to think they can organise something more complicated than a tailgate party.

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:02:15pm

Charles,

I know you need the ad revenue, but it sure does nothing for you and this site to have to come across some of the ads that come up. I took a screen shot of this page so you can see it.

It bummed me out…

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Jenner7  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:03:25pm

Gross.

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:03:26pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

Did you know you can use a hammered dulcimer and a simple rolling pin to slice sheets of pasta fresca into spaghettini? But I have one of these, so I don’t need yours.

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I will not let my wife do that. That is a pretty novel application of a dulcimer though.

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:03:39pm
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jaunte  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:04:32pm

re: #59 ObserverArt

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Ofc, I can’t get ahold of anyone.These people are a bunch of thieves and I am beyond pissed off right now.”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:05:04pm

re: #61 Anymouse

I will not let my wife do that. That is a pretty novel application of a dulcimer though.

Implement is called a “chitarra”, but I don’t think Gibson makes one.

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freetoken  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:06:28pm

re: #60 Jenner7

There’s no pretense left. Just full out bigotry.

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unproven innocence  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:07:38pm

re: #60 Jenner7

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Gross.

So many seem to have forgotten who built the railroads.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:08:41pm

Why do my fellow Juice have to be so freaking stupid==>

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:08:59pm

re: #62 lawhawk

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OK, yeah, so most refugees don’t commit crimes and we do actually vet them, but why should we? I don’t want them outside my hotels, OK?

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:09:31pm

re: #66 unproven innocence

So many seem to have forgotten who built the railroads.

That ‘forgetting’ was engineered by those who murdered the people they no longer needed.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:09:59pm
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jaunte  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:10:09pm

re: #68 Sir John Barron

“I don’t want them outside my hotels, OK?

Or veterans, believe me.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:14:58pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

How do you know that’s a photo of Jason & not a photo of some random chin-scratching dude he found on the Internet?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:15:17pm

re: #71 jaunte

“I don’t want them outside my hotels, OK?

Or veterans, believe me.”

Love our vets. Love ‘em. Believe me. And we want them to get healed and get back to work, OK. But they’re all gathering around outside my hotels and my luxury apartment OK? We can’t have that. Get ‘em outta here.

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b.d.  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:15:33pm

re: #71 jaunte

“I don’t want them outside my hotels, OK?

Or veterans, believe me.”

[trump] Only veterans from wars we won. [/trump]

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:19:11pm
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Belafon  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:19:35pm

re: #56 danarchy

Voice recognition is getting damn good these days

shop.nuance.com

And he could just submit whatever the voice recognition software records and leave it up to us to interpret.

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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:20:01pm

Here’s a useful antidote for those anxious about the polling dailykos.com

Kos is saying that nobody is changing their minds, which I find very plausible. Therefore every change in the polling numbers is driven entirely by the turnout model used in the poll.

This means that GOTV on election day isn’t everything, it’s the only thing.

What a shame that Donald Trump doesn’t think he needs a ground game. //

Edited to add: GOTV for early voting is also important.

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:21:57pm

Current Mood

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:24:26pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:24:43pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

Yeah, that’s going to be the thing, along with getting Millenials to turn out for Clinton.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:26:02pm

re: #79 goddamnedfrank

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Belafon  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:27:04pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

Here’s a useful antidote for those anxious about the polling dailykos.com

Kos is saying that nobody is changing their minds, which I find very plausible. Therefore every change in the polling numbers is driven entirely by the turnout model used in the poll.

This means that GOTV on election day isn’t everything, it’s the only thing.

What a shame that Donald Trump doesn’t think he needs a ground game. //

“Hey, Donald. Only Losers try to get people to the polls. The best people know they’re going to go because of how awesome you are.”

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:29:18pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

Here’s a useful antidote for those anxious about the polling dailykos.com

Kos is saying that nobody is changing their minds, which I find very plausible. Therefore every change in the polling numbers is driven entirely by the turnout model used in the poll.

This means that GOTV on election day isn’t everything, it’s the only thing.

What a shame that Donald Trump doesn’t think he needs a ground game. //

I’m suddenly worried less about the polls right now than Hillary’s chance to re-seize the agenda. The debate should help that, but it might not, if the media leaves it rolling around in some Trump quip or another. The question really is, how does Hillary avoid having the cable stations cut off from her speeches to go to Trump? How does she do that and keep her dignity at the same time? I don’t know.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:30:45pm

I think the bigger story is that someone painted a portrait of Trump that was actually worth $20K.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:31:25pm
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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:32:05pm

re: #84 Dr. Matt

I think the bigger story is that someone painted a portrait of Trump that was actually worth $20K.

i think the biggest story is that someone got trump to pay $20k to paint his portrait

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:33:49pm

there’s much much more nonsense in the rest of Rand’s tweet thread.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:34:35pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

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there’s much much more nonsense in the rest of Rand’s tweet thread.

like this:

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:34:40pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

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there’s much much more nonsense in the rest of Rand’s tweet thread.

Remember when Ayn Rand Paul ran for president? Man, that was great.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:35:24pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Or will the #ClintonCash secure the Saudis more favors and a blind eye to their terror financing and human rights abuses?
— Dr. Rand Paul

That’s some mighty radical stupid there.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:35:52pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:36:48pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Or will the #ClintonCash secure the Saudis more favors and a blind eye to their terror financing and human rights abuses?
— Dr. Rand Paul

Dr. Paul Ayn Rand just wanted to tweet the hashtag ClintonCash. The words are just verbage.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:36:54pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:37:28pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

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City-wide martial law.

What could go wrong?

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Dr. Matt  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:37:36pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

Here’s a useful antidote for those anxious about the polling dailykos.com

Another perspective: This time 4 years ago Obama led Mittens only by less than a percentage point.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:39:16pm

re: #83 Sir John Barron

On the more positive side, I feel pretty confident about Hillary’s ground game. She might not quite get Obama’s turnout, but she’s got some smart people working for her. We haven’t heard anything about them, which is something. But that’s as it should be. If they’re effing up, that’s when they’re getting attention, the wrong kind.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:39:49pm

re: #59 ObserverArt

Charles,

I know you need the ad revenue, but it sure does nothing for you and this site to have to come across some of the ads that come up. I took a screen shot of this page so you can see it.

It bummed me out…

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I don’t choose the ads that show up; the ad network picks them based on keywords in the page. If it’s coming through Google Adsense I can block it, but if it’s through one of our other networks (we use several) there’s not much I can do to prevent it. I’ll check in Adsense, though.

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:39:54pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

hey frank, you by any chance watch “Suits”?
(and/or is everyone in on it but me)

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:40:37pm

Evan McMullan, who is allegedly running for President, released a campaign advert.

The advert highlights a voicemail message left after his campaign manager appeared on FOX News Channel.

He notes this sort of message is the sort of thing we would have in a Trump America.

wonkette.com

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:41:03pm

re: #95 Dr. Matt

That DOES help me relax. Hillary is up by 1-4 pts. Now, if we could only get some millenials to pull their heads out of their butts.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:41:37pm

re: #99 Anymouse

Evan McMullan is only trying to be a spoiler for Trump.

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danarchy  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:41:46pm

re: #95 Dr. Matt

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Another perspective: This time 4 years ago Obama led Mittens only by less than a percentage point.

Is it just me or does that graph not actually match the conclusion in the top right corner?

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:42:42pm

re: #98 dangerman

hey frank, you by any chance watch “Suits”?
(and/or is everyone in on it but me)

No, sorry.

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:43:01pm

re: #98 dangerman

hey frank, you by any chance watch “Suits”?
(and/or is everyone in on it but me)

Best show in television.

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nines09  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:45:33pm

“I have traveled through time and space to be here. Now, where is my ball?”

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Great White Snark  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:46:12pm

re: #59 ObserverArt

Charles,

I know you need the ad revenue, but it sure does nothing for you and this site to have to come across some of the ads that come up. I took a screen shot of this page so you can see it.

It bummed me out…

[Embedded content]

Do some online window shopping. Amazon will put what you shopped for in the ads for days and days. Kinda like CNN and a certain missing plane

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:47:45pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:48:37pm

re: #102 danarchy

Is it just me or does that graph not actually match the conclusion in the top right corner?

Agreed. That plot looks like about a 3 point difference, so it isn’t clear where the 0.7 percent difference on the top right is coming from.

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:48:46pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

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“Stop and Frisk,” that program that every “serious” wingnut assures me was doing some good, when 80-90% (depending on the year) of those stopped were guilty of nothing more than having skin darker than a paper bag.

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:50:07pm

re: #101 Ziggy_TARDIS

Evan McMullan is only trying to be a spoiler for Trump.

Yup. Good.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:50:13pm

re: #106 Great White Snark

Do some online window shopping. Amazon will put what you shopped for in the ads for days and days. Kinda like CNN and a certain missing plane

When I read here from home, I’m not logged in. There was one offensive ad that I looked for a way to report to the source (sometimes there is a way, in a clickable thing on the ad) but only found a choice of ‘parental control’ which made the ad go away.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:50:33pm

re: #102 danarchy

Is it just me or does that graph not actually match the conclusion in the top right corner?

Ah. Good call. I read that wrong. The 0.7 is the 12 month RCP average.

Final Results Obama +3.9
RCP Average Obama +0.7

Here are the polls during the week of the election:
Politico/GWU/Battleground Tie
IBD/TIPP Obama +1
Rasmussen Reports Romney +1
CNN/Opinion Research Tie
Gallup Romney +1
ABC News/Wash Post Obama +3
Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun Tie
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Obama +1
Pew Research Obama +3

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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:51:27pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

“Stop and Frisk,” that program that every “serious” wingnut assures me was doing some good, when 80-90% (depending on the year) of those stopped were guilty of nothing more than having skin darker than a paper bag.

Harassment of minorities for no reason is the entire point of stop and frisk for wingnuts.

If it actually reduced crime, wingnuts would eventually have to oppose it for undermining their preferred narratives.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:53:45pm

re: #107 dangerman

“goddamn” is one of the most used phrases on the show

I’m a huge fan of how Deadwood dry humped the word cocksucker to death.

Deadwood’s Favorite Word

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:54:59pm

re: #111 wrenchwench

When I read here from home, I’m not logged in. There was one offensive ad that I looked for a way to report to the source (sometimes there is a way, in a clickable thing on the ad) but only found a choice of ‘parental control’ which made the ad go away.

Do I have to get my parents to make the mean ads go away?

Let them waste their money on us.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:55:11pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

“Stop and Frisk,” that program that every “serious” wingnut assures me was doing some good, when 80-90% (depending on the year) of those stopped were guilty of nothing more than having skin darker than a paper bag.

The idiots that support “stop and frisk” are the same idiots that lose their shit over red light cameras, the government buying bullets for LEOs, and IRS audits.

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Lidane  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:56:57pm

“SMALL GUBMINT! INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY! ELEVENTY!”

Anyone who claims to be a constitutional conservative and still votes for this fascist asshole is free to kiss my ass.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:57:33pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

The thing I love about that video is that just about the time you feel like it must be almost over you realize there’s at least six more minutes of people saying cocksucker.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:57:54pm

Senate panel backs bill to protect miners’ retirement funds, Manchin comments

WASHINGTON (AP) - An election-year bill to protect health care and pension benefits for about 120,000 retired coal miners and their families has moved forward in the Senate.

The Senate Finance Committee approved the measure Wednesday, 18-8.

Six Republicans, including Finance Chairman Orrin Hatch of Utah, joined all 12 Democrats in endorsing the bill. Supporters say it would save lives and honor a 70-year-old promise made by the federal government.

The measure has divided coal-state Republicans. Several endangered Republican incumbents support the bill, but GOP leaders - including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky - are wary of bailing out unionized workers.

The bill would ensure retired miners receive more than $250 million a year in benefits now at risk amid the coal industry’s steep decline and bankruptcies of several large companies.

Senator Joe Manchin has commented on the passage saying “Even though it is long overdue, the Miners Protection Act passage through the Senate Finance Committee brings us one step closer to fulfilling the commitment that we made to our miners more than 70 years ago,” Senator Manchin said. “We have just returned from the longest Congressional recess in history and my colleagues are already running for the door with unfinished business. If we do not pass this bill, 16,000 miners will lose their healthcare at the end of this year. Then 3,500 miners will lose their healthcare in March and another 3,500 miners will lose their healthcare in July. We need to get the job done.”

Mitch McConnell can just go fuck himself.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:57:55pm

re: #116 Dr. Matt

The idiots that support “stop and frisk” are the same idiots that lose their shit over red light cameras, the government buying bullets for LEOs, and IRS audits.

In Soviet Union Trump’s America, stop is frisking you.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:57:57pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:58:20pm

re: #115 Decatur Deb

Do I have to get my parents to make the bad ads go away?

Let them waste their money on us.

It used the term ‘white trash’. I don’t know why ‘parental control’ took that away. Maybe just the fact that I wanted to report something cleaned things up for a bit.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:58:49pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:59:25pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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WOW!

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b.d.  Sep 21, 2016 • 1:59:45pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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Keep helping Hillary with the expectations game Jimmy.

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:00:07pm

re: #116 Dr. Matt

The idiots that support “stop and frisk” are the same idiots that lose their shit over red light cameras, the government buying bullets for LEOs, and IRS audits.

That’s because “Stop and Frisk” and it’s parent “Broken Windows” came down on the same classes: Minorities and the impoverished. By giving the NYPD carte blanche to throw both groups in jail on the most minor of charges, Rudy got to claim credit for “cleaning up” NYC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:00:22pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:00:33pm

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

Is he talking about Scott Baio?

Stephen Miller ✔ @redsteeze
Nothing screams moving America forward than bringing out old 90’s TV stars to campaign for you. I hope a giant sink hole swallows Ohio.
2:48 PM - 21 Sep 2016
22 22 Retweets 39 39 likes

I don’t know who he is talking about, but he can go fuck himself for the Ohio comment.

Asshole needs to realize this state helped get Obama over the top and was also screwed big time in getting Kerry elected.

It has become known the number of people who gave up voting on ‘04 due to long lines and waiting would have been enough to most likely turn the election in this state.

Some of us Ohioans are working to get Hillary elected. Fuck his attitude.

Yeah…I’m getting pissed. That happens to me when I see so much stupid. And damn, have we got a lot of stupid this election.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:00:46pm

re: #117 Lidane

“SMALL GUBMINT! INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY! ELEVENTY!”

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Anyone who claims to be a constitutional conservative and still votes for this fascist asshole is free to kiss my ass.

Just in the cities, in the bad urban areas. Not in the good areas or in the rural. This is just about those people, OK?

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:01:08pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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“Rumors,” i.e. the voices Jim is hearing in his head are getting louder again.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:02:09pm

re: #125 b.d.

Keep helping Hillary with the expectations game Jimmy.

[When Hillary debates and does really well]

“Hey, SMOTI, I thought you said Hillary wasn’t going to show for the debate? Why were you wrong?”

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:03:12pm

re: #112 Dr. Matt

Ah. Good call. I read that wrong. The 0.7 is the 12 month RCP average.

Final Results Obama +3.9
RCP Average Obama +0.7

Here are the polls during the week of the election:
Politico/GWU/Battleground Tie
IBD/TIPP Obama +1
Rasmussen Reports Romney +1
CNN/Opinion Research Tie
Gallup Romney +1
ABC News/Wash Post Obama +3
Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun Tie
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Obama +1
Pew Research Obama +3

Gallup, LOL

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:03:32pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

I’m a huge fan of how Deadwood dry humped the word cocksucker to death.

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Video

if that was part of your handle, cnn might have passed you over

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:04:02pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:04:09pm

Seen yesterday. The propaganda speaks loudly enough that I don’t think I need to comment on it further.

Edited to add spoiler tag because, ugh.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:04:23pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

That’s because “Stop and Frisk” and it’s parent “Broken Windows” came down on the same classes: Minorities and the impoverished. By giving the NYPD carte blanche to throw both groups in jail on the most minor of charges, Rudy got to claim credit for “cleaning up” NYC.

D_F was promoting ‘Broken Windows’ enforcement on one of his scarce appearances of not-so-long ago. I don’t miss him, but I miss the hope I had for what I thought he could be.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:04:40pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:05:02pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

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Obviously the race is too close to call.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:05:58pm

re: #128 ObserverArt

I don’t know who he is talking about, but he can go fuck himself for the Ohio comment.

I saw a tweet earlier today that the cast of West Wing will be campaigning for Hillary in Ohio.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:06:04pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

Obviously the race is too close to call.

////

Obviously skewed. Hillary won’t even debate. Confirmed. FACT.

/

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b.d.  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:06:16pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

Obviously the race is too close to call.

////

[media] On the surface these polls look good for Hillary but she should be very worried [/media]

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:06:56pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:07:55pm

re: #135 CuriousLurker

Refresh if you don’t want to see the images. I put them behind a spoiler tag.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:08:03pm

That NBC poll: Everybody hates Obama, too. Bank it.

///

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:08:28pm

re: #63 jaunte

Agora financial. reviews from pissedconsumer .com

No surprise then is there.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:08:42pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Killjoy reminder that the key words there are “two way race” which …I know the third parties don’t have a shot in hell but they are in the race.

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:09:22pm

Were the numbers reversed, the media would be leading every hour with “When will Hillary throw in the towel? She can’t win against these poll numbers!”

But she’s the one leading, so it’s “They look good, but they’re really very bad and she’s still going to lose. And if she doesn’t lose, she’ll win for all the wrong reasons.”

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:09:55pm

re: #141 b.d.

[media] On the surface these polls look good for Hillary but she should be very worried [/media]

Is that a Skittle as your avi?

/gotta keep my memes straight

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b.d.  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:10:27pm

re: #148 wrenchwench

Is that a Skittle as your avi?

/gotta keep my memes straight

yep, a poison one.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:10:59pm

re: #146 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Killjoy reminder that the key words there are “two way race” which …I know the third parties don’t have a shot in hell but they are in the race.

She’s 6 points ahead in the four-way contest. Still a decisive lead.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:11:00pm

re: #135 CuriousLurker

I’m not terribly impressed by whatever point that tweeter is trying to make. That person is using images without any context. It is worth remembering that the villains referenced in those images are directly responsible for the murder of millions.

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freetoken  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:11:05pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

If you look at cable TV ratings, for years Fox News has trounced CNN. And by no small margins - usually in multiples of views.

Fox’s nightly lineup gets about 3 million viewers per hour. CNN maybe a third of that on a good night.

And that is why you now see CNN trying to market themselves to that group of viewers who are so enamoured with Fox.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:12:13pm

re: #141 b.d.

Love your new avatar.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:12:32pm

re: #143 CuriousLurker

Refresh if you don’t want to see the images. I put them behind a spoiler tag.

You can add a small goldmine from WWI. That’s when propaganda went industrial. The Spanish-American War also had a notable tale of sexual abuse on the high seas.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:13:31pm

Stick a fork in Trump. He’s done.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:14:46pm
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b.d.  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:14:50pm

So Trump is losing to a walking corpse?

//

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:15:14pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

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Stick a fork in Trump. He’s done.

I lost my fork in his nether regions months ago.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:15:21pm
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freetoken  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:15:47pm

Today’s Nature is full of human evolution goodness, with several papers about human DNA diversity and estimating the time to our last common ancestors.

Creationists will not like it.

There is a commentary letter a couple of scientists wrote to try and summarize/harmonize the various research:

A map of human wanderlust

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:17:02pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

I don’t choose the ads that show up; the ad network picks them based on keywords in the page. If it’s coming through Google Adsense I can block it, but if it’s through one of our other networks (we use several) there’s not much I can do to prevent it. I’ll check in Adsense, though.

Oh, I know how it works. I just wanted you to see it. It’s sad that a shitty company like that uses political come-ons at a site that is not going to really give then much in the old hit department. Too bad they can’t see in the keywords there is much Trump hate here.

I guess one saving grace is you get some coin from them in exchange from scorn from some of your readers…like me.

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Jenner7  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:17:10pm

Good polls today for Hillary. Not getting excited, though. Media will do it’s damndest to pump Trump up after debate.

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:17:20pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

She’s 6 points ahead in the four-way contest. Still a decisive lead.

Historically, third parties do way worse on Election Day than they polled prior, which is why I keep looking at the four-way race polls with a bit of skepticism.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:17:22pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:18:02pm

ooops…wrong tweet

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:18:37pm

re: #164 goddamnedfrank

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He’s blinking in morse code. “S.E.N.D..H.E.L.P..”

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:18:52pm

re: #159 Decatur Deb

Make it more manic:

We are tied.

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Jenner7  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:19:20pm

Yep, this is me at this stage. lol I can’t help myself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:20:01pm

shenanigans…

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Lidane  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:20:40pm

It’s Wednesday. Here’s your inevitable “HILLARY’S TAKIN’ YER GUNZ!” ad from the NRA:

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Jenner7  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:20:54pm

He was on Doug Wright’s show this morning, in SLC.

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b.d.  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:21:36pm

re: #170 Lidane

It’s Wednesday. Here’s your inevitable “HILLARY’S TAKIN’ YER GUNZ!” ad from the NRA:

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I thought Obama already took our guns?

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:22:17pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

shenanigans…

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As if we needed another reminder about how the Green Party is a bad joke that’s no longer funny.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:22:22pm

re: #167 Ziggy_TARDIS

Make it more manic:

We are tied.

We’ve never been as far ahead or as close to tied as the hucksters claim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:22:48pm

looks at date on tweet.
looks at desk calendar…

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:23:00pm

re: #106 Great White Snark

Do some online window shopping. Amazon will put what you shopped for in the ads for days and days. Kinda like CNN and a certain missing plane

I think crap like this would still show up. It is how it works.

Besides, I certainly don’t ‘shop’ for loans from scummy loaners than lean heavy right. That must mean they came into my browser based on what the got from here at LGF. I use the Chrome browser on this computer for LGF about 90% of the time…the other is to links from here.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:23:02pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

shenanigans…

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OFFS

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:23:49pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:23:51pm

re: #172 b.d.

I thought Obama already took our guns?

Yeah but we bought more. Now Hillary will take them!

/

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:24:18pm

re: #170 Lidane

It’s Wednesday. Here’s your inevitable “HILLARY’S TAKIN’ YER GUNZ!” ad from the NRA:

[Embedded content]

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The triumph of paranoia over experience.

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:24:58pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

I saw a tweet earlier today that the cast of West Wing will be campaigning for Hillary in Ohio.

slightly o/t
playing doctors on tv

Cigna TV Doctors Commercial 2016

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:25:08pm

re: #176 ObserverArt

I think crap like this would still show up. It is how it works.

Besides, I certainly don’t ‘shop’ for loans from scummy loaners than lean heavy right. That must mean they came into my browser based on what the got from here at LGF. I use the Chrome browser on this computer for LGF about 90% of the time…the other is to links from here.

I searched cross stitch kits about a month ago.

My ads are very nice right now. (Obviously not here, but other places.)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:25:59pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

That would only backfire.

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Great White Snark  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:26:13pm

re: #176 ObserverArt

I could be wrong, but I think what you are getting is default ads. I subscribe here but not anywhere else and it works. I also do login in to chrome in my gmail account, I suppose that facilitates the shopping ads to show up. *Sigh* Maybe someday the default ads will be big companies, legit stuff. Cars, local grocery store, anything but “Doctors Hate This”

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:26:24pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

Historically, third parties do way worse on Election Day than they polled prior, which is why I keep looking at the four-way race polls with a bit of skepticism.

Jill Stein can still win!!!!!111 JillNotHill!!!!11

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:26:31pm

re: #170 Lidane

It’s Wednesday. Here’s your inevitable “HILLARY’S TAKIN’ YER GUNZ!” ad from the NRA:

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well she’s obviously cleverer and will be able to do what no democratic prez has done before (ok has never even tried but thats besides it all)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:26:35pm

jeebus.

PORT RICHEY, Fla. (AP) - Authorities say a Florida man grabbed his drugs but left behind an infant and two caged dogs after accidentally causing a drug-related explosion that burned his house down.

News outlets report 24-year-old Steven Brown of Port Richey turned himself in to Pasco County investigators Monday. He faces arson, drug and aggravated cruelty to animal charges.

Pasco County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Kevin Doll says Brown was trying to cook butane hash oil inside his home Sept. 3 when the fire started.

Deputies say Brown took his drugs and fled the residence, leaving behind a 1-year-old child and two dogs. The child wasn’t hurt, but the dogs died.

Authorities had been searching for Brown, who they say fled from a traffic stop Sept. 9.

Jail records don’t indicate whether he has an attorney.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:26:46pm

re: #151 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’m not terribly impressed by whatever point that tweeter is trying to make.

Well gosh, now I don’t know if I’ll be able to sleep tonight—I was really counting on you being impressed. //

That person is using images without any context. It is worth remembering that the villains referenced in those images are directly responsible for the murder of millions.

As for context, if you click on the tweets you’ll see he was responding to Chris Hayes’ comments. ALL the people in those images weren’t villains, but the villains were used to scapegoat & stereotype everyone in the larger group they belonged to. I thought that was pretty obvious, but what do I know? If there was some other point the guy was trying to make, you’ll have to ask him about it yourself.

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:27:33pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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looks at date on tweet.
looks at desk calendar…

youve been holding that one for today right

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:28:02pm

re: #136 wrenchwench

D_F was promoting ‘Broken Windows’ enforcement on one of his scarce appearances of not-so-long ago. I don’t miss him, but I miss the hope I had for what I thought he could be.

Hell be back. Sometime in December. Earlier…maybe.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:29:14pm

Bill Clinton’s taking all your guns!

Obama’s taking all your guns!

Hillary’s taking all your guns!


So, you want to bury your guns?

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:29:20pm

re: #190 ObserverArt

Hell be back. Sometime in December. Earlier…maybe.

Unchanged, no matter which way the election goes.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:29:53pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus.

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OK, well, I don’t favor due process for this guy….

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:29:59pm

re: #179 Sir John Barron

Yeah but we bought more. Now Hillary will take them!

/

And gun manufacturers rejoice!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:31:09pm

Broken Clock moment from Johnson.

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:32:12pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

Authorities say a Florida man

But of course.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:32:51pm

Now you’ve buried your guns and can’t find them?

Whether you’re looking for your first hobby metal detector or want a state-of-the-art model for serious treasure hunting, you can find the best metal detector for the job at metaldetector.com

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:33:39pm

re: #146 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Killjoy reminder that the key words there are “two way race” which …I know the third parties don’t have a shot in hell but they are in the race.

I just saw Chucky at MTP Daily put up numbers that younger folk are increasing numbers for Johnson and Stein to combine for about 27% of the vote in current polls.

I wonder if there is a bit of a cool factor to be saying that to each other and to polling people and then when the time comes some of them do the right thing in the actual voting.

I’m hoping so at least.

Come on youths…you need to look at your futures and how Supreme Court justices mean a lot to you too!

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Great White Snark  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:33:52pm

re: #151 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’m not terribly impressed by whatever point that tweeter is trying to make. That person is using images without any context. It is worth remembering that the villains referenced in those images are directly responsible for the murder of millions.

Dude. think Manzanar, where we put American born citizens who never did a thing. That was never overturned. The dehumanization of that nationality/ethnicity directly led to that abandonment of our principles. Now we got a guy that just might try that on Muslim Americans.

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Great White Snark  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:35:04pm

re: #191 jaunte

Bill Clinton’s taking all your guns!

Obama’s taking all your guns!

Hillary’s taking all your guns!


So, you want to bury your guns?

“Pssst, buddy. You give me lots of your cash and I’ll sell you a cache”

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:36:32pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

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Stick a fork in Trump. He’s done.

He may be done, but I likes Trump meat burnt to a crisp. It’s much better that way. All the bad stuff is killed off.

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:36:38pm

No need to make a pilgrimage to the Richard Rogers Theater to fulfill all of your Hamilton needs anymore. (Although, yes, that would certainly be wonderful, and all of your friends and family would still envy you for all eternity.) The trailer for PBS’s Hamilton documentary, titled Hamilton’s America, has arrived, and the 90-minute special will explore and chart the history of the revolutionary musical. As previously reported, the doc will include interviews with subjects such as George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Jimmy Fallon, and Questlove, as well as feature exclusive access of the show’s beloved creator Lin-Manuel Miranda. Willing to wait for it until October 21?

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:36:40pm

Solution to hoarding: stash your stuff in the ground and clear the surface for another buying binge.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:37:25pm

Personal OT ahead, skip as desired.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:37:38pm

It looks like the DAESH ideology in regards to women is backfiring.

Sept. 5-The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant bans burqas in northern Iraq after a series of fatal attacks on its members by veiled women.[21]

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:37:39pm

re: #95 Dr. Matt

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Another perspective: This time 4 years ago Obama led Mittens only by less than a percentage point.

This election is way different… common sense says Hillary should be up 20+. That she isn’t is not a good sign for our future. These Trump supporters aren’t simply going to go away after the election if he loses.

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makeitstop  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:38:35pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

shenanigans…

A Stein supporter is calling for volunteers to take part in protest and civil disobedience in Hofstra, New York

Silly Guardian. Ain’t no ‘Hofstra, New York.’ It’s Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York.

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Thanos  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:39:15pm

The @joss twitter stream is a great place to find some alt-right or gamergaters that I haven’t blocked yet, They are crying bitter bitter tears there.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:39:17pm

Facepalm. Watch Trump. He just loved it when Don King dropped the N word.

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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:40:14pm

re: #206 GlutenFreeJesus

This election is way different… common sense says Hillary should be up 20+. That she isn’t is not a good sign for our future. These Trump supporters aren’t simply going to go away after the election if he loses.

Back in the 30s, the ‘Good Germans’ that voted for the Nazis could pretend to be unaware of the consequences of political scapegoating.

Trump voters today have no such excuse, in part because of the example of the Nazis.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:41:54pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:42:21pm
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Lidane  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:43:11pm

re: #209 Charles Johnson

Gotta love Don King’s charming story about how he told Michael Jackson that no matter how rich or successful he was, or how far up the social ladder he climbed, he was still just an N-word.

Trump’s audience loved it.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:43:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:44:44pm

Man, this NBC/WSJ poll is a real disaster for Trump.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:45:11pm

re: #191 jaunte


So, you want to bury your guns?

El Oh El!

After keeping other people from knowing where your stash is buried, the second most important thing you need to address when you bury your guns is making sure you’ll still be able to find them when it counts. A nuclear blast or an epic natural disaster could level trees and man-made structures, so it’s important to be able to find the exact location of your dig without relying on these temporary features.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:46:12pm

re: #206 GlutenFreeJesus

This election is way different… common sense says Hillary should be up 20+. That she isn’t is not a good sign for our future. These Trump supporters aren’t simply going to go away after the election if he loses.

This country is way too partisan for any presidential candidate to have that sort of a lead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:46:22pm

re: #207 makeitstop

Silly Guardian. Ain’t no ‘Hofstra, New York.’ It’s Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York.

Given how well Stein and her staff are with finding their travel destinations (recently she ended up in Cincinnati for a scheduled event in Columbus), she’ll be driving all over the place looking for Hofstra, NY.

;)

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:46:29pm

re: #188 CuriousLurker

Well gosh, now I don’t know if I’ll be able to sleep tonight—I was really counting on you being impressed. //

As for context, if you click on the tweets you’ll see he was responding to Chris Hayes’ comments. ALL the people in those images weren’t villains, but the villains were used to scapegoat & stereotype everyone in the larger group they belonged to. I thought that was pretty obvious, but what do I know? If there was some other point the guy was trying to make, you’ll have to ask him about it yourself.

Granted all the people weren’t the villians, but Japanese and German men marched by the millions to accomplish the murderous aims of their leaders. The stakes in WW2 were far higher than anything involving ISIS these days. While the Nazi party hierarchy and the Japanese regime were relatively small, we had to fight against millions of them to end the war.
While I’m at it (and this will probably guarantee the start of a new thread because I have impeccable timing), the way the right wing gushes over the “Greatest Generation” exposes the emptiness of their sorry ass souls. We got involved in WW2 not because Germany or Japan were ever a serious threat to conquer the US (just like there is no way in hell ISIS will ever conquer the US now). We wound up in the war because we were in the way of their dreams of expansion. We stuck our necks out in the 30s and 40s because other people were under the guns of tyrants. By the wingnuts’ own admission, we were “great” then. Given the same chance to be great again, and stick our necks out for other people, the wingnuts say “No way”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:46:46pm

re: #210 EPR-radar

They don’t think they need any excuses.

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:46:51pm

re: #207 makeitstop

Silly Guardian. Ain’t no ‘Hofstra, New York.’ It’s Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York.

Shhhh! The Stein demonstrators will miss the debate driving around looking for Hofstra, New York.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:48:09pm

re: #217 Dr. Matt

Were Hillary running against any of the other Republicans, I’d agree with your point. I think it goes beyond partisanship.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:48:17pm

I’m just gonna laugh at the irony of someone telling CL that a new thread is going to start because they have impeccable timing.

As if pulling a CL isn’t an existing injoke here.

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makeitstop  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:48:38pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

Given how well Stein and her staff are with finding their travel destinations (recently she ended up in Cincinnati for a scheduled event in Columbus), she’ll be driving all over the place looking for Hofstra, NY.

;)

We can only hope! :)

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Dr. Matt  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:48:50pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

Man, this NBC/WSJ poll is a real disaster for Trump.

The MSM will spin this somehow that it’s actually bad for Clinton, e.g., she’s peaking too soon, her support among Asians that own dalmatians is at all time-low, germaphobes are voting for Trump with 80% support, etc.,

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:49:35pm

re: #223 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m just gonna laugh at the irony of someone telling CL that a new thread is going to start because they have impeccable timing.

As if pulling a CL isn’t an existing injoke here.

Irony is the first thing to go….

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:50:44pm

re: #223 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t get much time to post like I used to but it seems like when I pour my heart into laying down something (with the requisite rewrites, fine tunings and do-overs) by the time I finish it a new one has started.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:51:19pm

re: #227 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I don’t get much time to post like I used to but it seems like when I pour my heart into laying down something (with the requisite rewrites, fine tunings and do-overs) by the time I finish it a new one has started.

CL does this at least once a week.

I’m just saying.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:51:22pm

re: #223 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m just gonna laugh at the irony of someone telling CL that a new thread is going to start because they have impeccable timing.

As if pulling a CL isn’t an existing injoke here.

BTW I don’t get the injoke

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:51:37pm

re: #228 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Ah

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:51:55pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

Man, this NBC/WSJ poll is a real disaster for Trump.

The only point in that poll that’s in Trump’s favor is the economy, but the problem with that is the economy’s not a major issue this year. It’s not in freefall, it’s not dragging along, it’s puttering along at a steady and fruitful pace. Trump decided to make foreign policy the centerpiece of his campaign and Hillary’s cleaning his clock on it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:52:53pm

whooosh……….

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:53:00pm

I think there have been times a new thread has probably saved me from making a bigger fool out of myself too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:54:06pm
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nines09  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:54:25pm

I’ve seen all this before. And I’m seeing it again. I’ve had to draw back a bit because I was allowing it to affect me at a very personal level. What comes back to me over and over again is Trump saying “I could shoot somebody and not lose voters”
He’s right. He has got away with murder. Almost daily.
And our media? What a joke.

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:54:32pm

re: #228 klys (maker of Silmarils)

CL does this at least once a week.

I’m just saying.

Hey! I’m pretty good for it too. /

Maybe we have a sub class.

By the way…Andrea Mitchell sucks. She is on MTP right now and is just terrible.

TV will be turned off in 7 minutes. I had my daily MSNBC dose and even one hour is getting to be too much.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:54:49pm

re: #231 Targetpractice

It would be doing better if the government was spending more and had higher taxes though.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:56:29pm

re: #233 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I think there have been times a new thread has probably saved me from making a bigger fool out of myself too.

I’ve used the ‘delete’ button three or four times today. and that’s after the rewrites, fine tunings and do-overs. And still I think once more would have been good….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:56:49pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:58:46pm

re: #237 Ziggy_TARDIS

I periodically argue that lower taxes actually create an incentive for the quick buck rather than for re-investment (as tax cut advocates would insist). Growth is demand driven and if the largest parts of the market aren’t seeing real wage growth they can only demand so much. The wealthiest people ultimately wind up hoarding their wealth and it contributes little to economic growth.

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Great White Snark  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:58:50pm

re: #219 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Just want to point out the stakes for us here and ISIS may not be that high (unless you wind up in the wrong room with active shooters) here, but what about the towns and villages they took over?

I don’t dismiss the possibility the Axis powers could have won, and much to our detriment. Nuclear weapons were not far away.

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2016 • 2:59:33pm

re: #237 Ziggy_TARDIS

It would be doing better if the government was spending more and had higher taxes though.

Look at it this way: Hillary can tell people that Republicans predicted all sorts of economy doom and gloom when the Bush tax cuts for the top brackets expired. That you couldn’t raise taxes during a recession without making it worse. Yet here we are, with the longest sustained period of job growth in a generation.

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Lidane  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:00:23pm

This is amazing:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:01:47pm

re: #238 wrenchwench

I’ve used the ‘delete’ button three or four times today. and that’s after the rewrites, fine tunings and do-overs. And still I think once more would have been good….

I should probably get better at that.

I could print the really awful ones and start using them for target practice. That might be therapeutic.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:02:39pm

re: #222 GlutenFreeJesus

Were Hillary running against any of the other Republicans, I’d agree with your point. I think it goes beyond partisanship.

Pure blind, unwavering partisanship, Trump probably gets 40% of the vote as does Hillary.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:03:25pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

Man, this NBC/WSJ poll is a real disaster for Trump.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:03:32pm

Once again:

Wednesday, September 21st 2016
Blue Bell is issuing a voluntary recall of two flavors of ice cream due to possible listeria.
Blue Bell Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough and Blue Bell Cookie Two Step flavors should be returned to the place of purchase for a full refund.
msnewsnow.com

Donald Trump floated rolling back food safety regulations if he wins the White House in November.
In a fact sheet posted online Thursday, the campaign highlighted a number of “specific regulations to be eliminated” under the GOP nominee’s economic plan, including what they called the “FDA FoodPolice.”
thehill.com

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:04:03pm

re: #244 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I should probably get better at that.

I could print the really awful ones and start using them for target practice. That might be therapeutic.

I invite trauma even thinking about looking for which ones are the ‘really awful’. So I don’t.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:04:26pm

re: #248 wrenchwench

I invite trauma even thinking about looking for which ones are the ‘really awful’. So I don’t.

I was referring to my replies. ;)

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:05:51pm

re: #219 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’ll tell you what, if you want to have a discussion with me don’t start off by snarking about how unimpressed you are, following that up with a down-ding when I give an equally snarky response, and then 40 minutes later deciding you want to carry on.

I don’t do passive-aggressive, so we’re done here.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:07:21pm

re: #249 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I was referring to my replies. ;)

There was one of my bad ones!

I meant if I were to look for my own ‘really awfuls’. You don’t have any!

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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:07:26pm

re: #245 Dr. Matt

Pure blind, unwavering partisanship, Trump probably gets 40% of the vote as does Hillary.

As usual, it has to be noted here that this polarization is mainly on the Republican side. The GOP under Trump has become a party of aggressively stupid and heavily armed nitwits and bigots, whose goal is to basically end civilization if white supremacy cannot be maintained.

The Democrats remain a normal center-left political party who also happen to be the most effective non-GOP alternative to those turned off by what the GOP has become.

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:07:43pm

huffingtonpost.com;

Archaeologists uncover a time capsule left by the Nazis in Poland. The items inside were perfectly preserved.

They noted it was long known to be there, but the difficulty in digging it up they ascribed to ground water, concrete, and land mines covering it.

It contains newspapers of the time, photographs of Hitler, and copies of Mein Kampf, along with other things.

The items will be translated and released to the public.

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:07:45pm

Good God, we’ve had steady rain since yesterday and now they’re predicting even more tonight.

/AFK, building an ark

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:07:54pm

re: #251 wrenchwench

There was one of my bad ones!

I meant if I were to look for my own ‘really awfuls’. You don’t have any!

You’ve never seen what I have been wise enough to delete.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:08:45pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

shenanigans…

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Roque De La Fuente is probably polling higher than Jill.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:09:11pm

re: #143 CuriousLurker

thanks for spoilerificating them.
Humans’ capacity for being inhuman is dismaying.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:09:39pm

re: #241 Great White Snark

My point is that then as now the threat posed by these enemies were far greater to other people than to us. Back then (even before atomic weapons were on the horizon) we put sanctions on Japan and helped supply Great Britain and then the Soviet Union, fully aware that we were putting ourselves on a course that would lead us to a global war.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:09:59pm

re: #255 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You’ve never seen what I have been wise enough to delete.

A click of discretion is worth a [keyboard] pound[ing] of regret.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:11:03pm

re: #181 dangerman

slightly o/t
playing doctors on tv

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Besides MASH of course, I really loved his guest appearances on ER back in the day (which he got an Emmy nomination for).

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:13:26pm
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Kragar  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:14:33pm
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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:14:52pm

re: #204 klys (maker of Silmarils)

To be brief:

That sucks!

That’s awesome!

😜

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:15:48pm

re: #250 CuriousLurker

I do wish I could have carried on the discussion in a more timely manner, but it didn’t work out that way today. However, I can damn well say how unimpressed I am with a post that is presented without further comment, as if its profundity were self-evident. Cherry-picking historical nuggets is always a bad idea, and more so when you decide you don’t need to add any additional thoughts on the matter. It is lazy and poorly supports anything you are trying to say. That weak sauce may work in your personal echo chamber, but if somebody wants to mix it up you may want to do something better than whine about a downding, complain about the promptness of the reply (I constantly wee replies to post made hours earlier) and then finish up by declaring the matter closed.

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:16:37pm

re: #261 gocart mozart

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“I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.”

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:16:51pm

re: #257 Jebediah, RBG

thanks for spoilerificating them.
Humans’ capacity for being inhuman is dismaying.

Yeah, and it gets really… I was recently looking at Bugs Bunny cartoons from the 1940’s and ran across a few Japanese caricatures (not to mention those of black Americans & Africans) that were nausea-inducing.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:19:22pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

I would like to add that I am pleased that we live in a era that recognizes just how grotesque those images are today. To anybody who pines for “the good old days” I would say that there was no such thing as “the good old days” The only thing good about them is that they’re behind us.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:20:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:22:23pm

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:22:48pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

1940’s Buggs Bunny was a racist shit.

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:23:18pm

re: #231 Targetpractice

The only point in that poll that’s in Trump’s favor is the economy, but the problem with that is the economy’s not a major issue this year. It’s not in freefall, it’s not dragging along, it’s puttering along at a steady and fruitful pace. Trump decided to make foreign policy the centerpiece of his campaign and Hillary’s cleaning his clock on it.

That trump leads in the economy shows that Americans are completely economically illiterate. The whole “kitchen table” bullshit is economics not for idiots but for those who don’t fecking care enough to be an idiot.

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makeitstop  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:24:37pm

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Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:24:56pm

re: #270 gocart mozart

1940’s Buggs Bunny was a racist shit.

But he wanted to get rid of Florida!

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:25:04pm

re: #268 CuriousLurker

One of these days I have to listen to that song. There is a lot of music from that era I have heard too many times and my attention wanders as it plays. This song is one of them. Perhaps I’ll youtube a version with the lyrics.

(Pause)

OK I’m back. Reading the words didn’t help much. If you’re trying to say something, try saying it.

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:25:21pm

Out come the cats with the mean looks.

Somebody is stepping in it…or is lost not recognizing sometimes a member has a body of work along the same topic and is known for that topic. History rides along!

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:25:24pm

re: #264 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I do wish I could have carried on the discussion in a more timely manner, but it didn’t work out that way today. However, I can damn well say how unimpressed I am with a post that is presented without further comment, as if its profundity were self-evident. Cherry-picking historical nuggets is always a bad idea, and more so when you decide you don’t need to add any additional thoughts on the matter. It is lazy and poorly supports anything you are trying to say. That weak sauce may work in your personal echo chamber, but if somebody wants to mix it up you may want to do something better than whine about a downding, complain about the promptness of the reply (I constantly wee replies to post made hours earlier) and then finish up by declaring the matter closed.

The context is Trump’s blatant promotion of racism. No other context is needed.

AFAIAC, this is CL’s personal echo chamber. No other guest here has given so much and with such distinction. (A few do come close, you either know who you are or don’t care about ‘rankings’.) That’s one reason her post worked well without further comment.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:26:23pm

re: #267 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I would like to add that I am pleased that we live in a era that recognizes just how grotesque those images are today. To anybody who pines for “the good old days” I would say that there was no such thing as “the good old days” The only thing good about them is that they’re behind us.

See, even you had no need for more ‘context’.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:27:43pm

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:28:19pm

re: #261 gocart mozart

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Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:28:57pm

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:29:23pm

re: #273 Feline Fearless Leader

1940’s Buggs Bunny was a racist shit.

But he wanted to get rid of Florida!

That was 1950’s Buggs who was an awesome badass dude.

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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:29:41pm

re: #277 wrenchwench

See, even you had no need for more ‘context’.

Political scapegoating being the ‘One Ring’ for all the evils of the Trump campaign and Republican party really hasn’t gotten much attention here in the last year. So it’s easy to miss this context. ///

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:29:47pm

re: #40 Anymouse

Hoping all goes well for you.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:30:26pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:30:39pm

re: #274 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

OK I’m back. Reading the words didn’t help much. If you’re trying to say something, try saying it.

I think she’s saying, ‘Ahoooooooooo, yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:30:54pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:32:14pm

re: #285 wrenchwench

I think she’s saying, ‘Ahoooooooooo, yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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Maybe it needs to be played backward for the subliminal messaging to come through more clearly.

///

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:32:27pm

re: #285 wrenchwench

I think she’s saying, ‘Ahoooooooooo, yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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Isn’t that a Beatles tune? 😛

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:32:59pm

re: #286 gocart mozart

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They have difficulty discerning “context”….

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:33:23pm

re: #287 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Maybe it needs to be played backward for the subliminal messaging to come through more clearly.

///

Need drugs to go with that.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:33:32pm

re: #281 gocart mozart

That was 1950’s Buggs who was an awesome badass dude.

Just goes to prove that an animated rabbit can change his mind and actions - but Robert Byrd will never be allowed to.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:34:25pm

re: #262 Kragar

awesome

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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:37:10pm

re: #282 EPR-radar

Political scapegoating being the ‘One Ring’ for all the evils of the Trump campaign and Republican party really hasn’t gotten much attention here in the last year. So it’s easy to miss this context. ///

To follow up on this, I think that dropping the scapegoating and politics of resentment is a single reform that would eventually make the Republican party a viable option for civilized people.

After all, if someone sincerely believes that the rich shouldn’t be taxed, and businesses shouldn’t be regulated, and makes that case in a reality based way without the scapegoating shit, I’ll disagree but not ask rude questions about which circle of Hell that advocate escaped from.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:37:27pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

I had that experience not too long ago with an episode of Gilligan’s Island. It was, IIRC, a “leftover” Japanese soldier. Thick round glasses, big buck teeth, “hilarious” Japanese accent… I almost couldn’t believe it, but there it was…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:38:40pm

good grief, Bevin is such an asshole.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:38:41pm

re: #276 wrenchwench

If that is her context I wish she would have said that in the first place. The demonization of others has gone on since the dawn of time. I have always made the effort to give a premise and a conclusion. I also make the effort to engage instead of post and run. In return, I would hope that the person I am having a discussion with would make the same effort. Once in a while, we get challenged. I offer myself up here to be challenged as well. CL is entitled to a summary harumph and an “I’m done with you”, but that is a cop out. Accept a challenge and engage. If I were to post my arguments and go home without trying to support them all I am doing is reinforcing my own arrogance. I would be no better for doing it.
At my pre-Cana sessions at my church, I argued that (we were all Catholic school people in that group) we don’t stop learning about God when we get out of school. We expect to live long lives and have keep growing every day.
I use this analogy here because when somebody posts something without further comment, it strikes me as something that can be explored (sometimes it’s just a joke or a one liner about something and that’s different). I am disappointed that she doesn’t want to explore it.

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:38:52pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:40:13pm

re: #277 wrenchwench

Not quite. There is a historical context involved. In particular that includes the difference between then and now (i.e. context)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:40:50pm

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:42:03pm

re: #296 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

You realize you just summarized your whole argument there as “CL isn’t engaging with me in the way I want her to and I’m disappointed,” right?

Which. I’m just impressed that someone thought that was a good argument to use, I guess?

(Here’s a hint: I’m also not going to engage with you the way you want. Sorry! I’ve found those conversations aren’t productive.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:43:15pm

Anyway, CATS! Have a cat picture.

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Skip Intro  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:44:02pm

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:44:30pm

Just because I disagree with something doesn’t mean we have to have some sort of adversarial thing go down. My disagreement doesn’t mean you’re in for a right wing troll fest or some sort of sock puppet thing. I think I’ve been around long enough that people know I’m no RWNJ.

Having said all of that I gotta go.

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:45:19pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:46:40pm

This was Mondrian.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:46:54pm

re: #296 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

If that is her context I wish she would have said that in the first place. The demonization of others has gone on since the dawn of time. I have always made the effort to give a premise and a conclusion. I also make the effort to engage instead of post and run. In return, I would hope that the person I am having a discussion with would make the same effort. Once in a while, we get challenged. I offer myself up here to be challenged as well. CL is entitled to a summary harumph and an “I’m done with you”, but that is a cop out. Accept a challenge and engage. If I were to post my arguments and go home without trying to support them all I am doing is reinforcing my own arrogance. I would be no better for doing it.
At my pre-Cana sessions at my church, I argued that (we were all Catholic school people in that group) we don’t stop learning about God when we get out of school. We expect to live long lives and have keep growing every day.
I use this analogy here because when somebody posts something without further comment, it strikes me as something that can be explored (sometimes it’s just a joke or a one liner about something and that’s different). I am disappointed that she doesn’t want to explore it.

It would be different if she had posted something you just couldn’t understand. But what I think you are saying is she didn’t post it in the way you think it would be best presented. You make an effort while you are here, but you aren’t here as much as CL is, and that puts you in a less-good position to comment on her ‘style’. If you asked for clarification off the bat, you might have gotten the response you hoped for, but you opened with criticism, and that rarely goes over well.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:47:58pm

Forgot which one this was.

Love it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:48:00pm
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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:48:20pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief, Bevin is such an asshole.

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Didn’t a great amount of Gov. Bevin’s support come from eastern Kentucky?

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:49:05pm

Curious Lurker…or anyone…web site setup issues.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:49:12pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:52:06pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That reminded me of this:

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:52:15pm

re: #305 Stanley Sea

This was Mondrian.

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That’s really my favorite app. Rocking cool pic!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:55:36pm

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KGxvi  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:55:56pm

re: #304 gocart mozart

Based on the way Trump has reportedly settled other issues, he’ll get them to write off his debt and have them pay a billion dollars to the Trump Foundation, which he’ll then use to settle other law suits against him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:58:04pm

re: #309 Anymouse

Didn’t a great amount of Gov. Bevin’s support come from eastern Kentucky?

He’s FROM eastern Kentucky!

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:58:36pm

re: #296 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I am disappointed that she doesn’t want to explore it.

I don’t want to explore it with you. How’s that for context?

I’ve got enough of a shit sandwich on my plate right now with this fucking demagogue running for POTUS, so I’m not going to come here and waste time dealing with someone’s snark because they don’t understand where I’m coming from (which I’ve made clear over and over and over again since I arrived here 6+ yeas ago). If your mind can’t stretch enough to reach a place where it has an inkling of how much stress American Muslims have been going through since 9/11—and continue to go through, through no fault of their own—then nothing I say to you is going to matter.

As for the song, 30 seconds of effort at Wikipedia would’ve given you the answer if you’d wanted an actual answer instead of a reason to keep up the snark.

The song is about the mythical kingdom of Shambhala, said to be hidden somewhere within or beyond the peaks of the Himalayas and mentioned in various ancient texts, including the Kalachakra Tantra and ancient texts of Tibetan Buddhism.

The lyrics refer to a situation where kindness and cooperation are universal, joy and good fortune abound, and psychological burdens are lifted.

The phrases “in the halls of Shambala” and “on the road to Shambala” tie for number of occurrences in the lyrics. The latter phrase perhaps alludes to the idea of Shambala not as a physical place but as a metaphor for the spiritual path one might follow. […]

en.wikipedia.org

If you don’t like me or my posts, then GAZE right past them, but don’t try to drag me into some stupid extended nit-picking contest. I don’t enjoy that game and I’m not gonna play it. Now please STEP THE FUCK OFF before I lose my temper.

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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2016 • 3:59:23pm

re: #315 KGxvi

Based on the way Trump has reportedly settled other issues, he’ll get them to write off his debt and have them pay a billion dollars to the Trump Foundation, which he’ll then use to settle other law suits against him.

That seems optimistic to me. It would be more in character for Trump to keep the bribe in some way that is immune from legal judgements and bankruptcy his way out of the law suits.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:00:53pm

re: #317 CuriousLurker

My upding button is broken. It’s all grayed out and I keep hitting it and nothing keeps happening.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:02:14pm

re: #317 CuriousLurker

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Bubblehead II  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:03:16pm

re: #319 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My upding button is broken. It’s all grayed out and I keep hitting it and nothing keeps happening.

My upding button works, but when I click on the number of dings received, the same thing happens to me as well.

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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:03:51pm

re: #319 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My upding button is broken. It’s all grayed out and I keep hitting it and nothing keeps happening.

I like the idea of the +10 upding that can be used infrequently (e.g., once per week) that has been suggested here a few times.

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:05:49pm

re: #321 Bubblehead II

My upding button works, but when I click on the number of dings received, the same thing happens to me as well.

All of it works fine for me. Apparently today they are only working in mythical Mountain Time Zone.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:06:31pm

If you reload the page you’ll see a nifty new feature in this comment - simple embedded Twitter timelines for any user. Here’s one for Donald Trump Jr. (who has blocked me, by the way).

All you have to do to create an embedded timeline is paste in the URL of the user’s profile page, like this:

https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:06:58pm

re: #306 wrenchwench

It would be different if she had posted something you just couldn’t understand. But what I think you are saying is she didn’t post it in the way you think it would be best presented. You make an effort while you are here, but you aren’t here as much as CL is, and that put’s you in a less-good position to comment on her ‘style’. If you asked for clarification off the bat, you might have gotten the response you hoped for, but you opened with criticism, and that rarely goes over well.

And immediately following up with insults (ECHO CHAMBER!!!11!!) is always a winning argument….

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:07:14pm

re: #323 Anymouse

All of it works fine for me. Apparently today they are only working in mythical Mountain Time Zone.

Just to be clear, mine is snark because I want to upding her post 47 bajillion times and that’s not allowed.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:07:19pm

re: #312 wrenchwench

That reminded me of this:

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Mama so serious.

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:07:26pm

re: #297 gocart mozart

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even carson was able to demonstrate that

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:07:36pm

re: #310 ObserverArt

Curious Lurker…or anyone…web site setup issues.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:09:41pm

re: #327 Stanley Sea

Mama so serious.

and there’s a serious side eye as she passes by….

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:09:43pm

re: #294 Jebediah, RBG

I had that experience not too long ago with an episode of Gilligan’s Island. It was, IIRC, a “leftover” Japanese soldier. Thick round glasses, big buck teeth, “hilarious” Japanese accent… I almost couldn’t believe it, but there it was…

mickey rooney / breakfast at tiffany’s

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:09:44pm

Hey, who remembers Bulworth? This could be a Trump speech==>

Bulworth – Q&A at Church

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BeachDem  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:09:47pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

Historically, third parties do way worse on Election Day than they polled prior, which is why I keep looking at the four-way race polls with a bit of skepticism.

You are correct! (Have a cookie)
In 2012—

3 way poll in September—Johnson had 6%
3 way poll in September—Johnson had 4%; Stein had 3%

Actual vote—Johnson had 0.99%; Stein had 0.36%

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makeitstop  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:10:21pm

re: #310 ObserverArt

Curious Lurker…or anyone…web site setup issues.

Are you using a plugin to generate the map? I’ve done enough WP sites to know that some of the plugins don’t work optimally with certain themes, or conflict with other plugins, or don’t always work with newer releases of Wordpress itself.

Wordpress always suggests that you disable plugins one at a time, but if I can’t get a plugin to work right off the bat I just go looking for one that will. I’ve been using one called ‘Maps Builder’ (if yo go searching in your WP admin you should find it). It’s pretty solid and seems to work with the newer WP release.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:12:25pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:14:42pm

re: #334 makeitstop

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Ha, you’re right! I didn’t even think to ask about that.

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:14:58pm

re: #329 CuriousLurker

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Bubblehead II  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:15:12pm

re: #323 Anymouse

All of it works fine for me. Apparently today they are only working in mythical Mountain Time Zone.

Ummm, not true. I am also in that mythical time zone as well. Twin Falls, Idaho. :-)

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:15:13pm

Wow! Watch SMOTI Make An Ass Of Himself Every Day, All Day Long, On Twitter==>

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:20:54pm

a rather clever turnabout by the dems

Dems Hijack IRS Impeachment Hearing With Skittles And Trump Taxes

and now it’s all on the record - sort of

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:21:29pm

You can also now embed Twitter Moments, that new feature everybody thinks is pretty pointless. But it was easy to add, so what the heck.

This is what a Moments URL looks like:

https://twitter.com/i/moments/778626934871851008

And this is what it produces:

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BadgerB  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:21:38pm

re: #262 Kragar

THIS x1000!
Finally someone saying it out loud.
[99% of the way to creating a Twitter account just to like and retweet this.]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:23:26pm

O_o

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:24:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:25:22pm

good grief…

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dangerman  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:26:25pm

cnn.com

the headline starts off ok “Trump and Clinton foundations: YUGE difference between their mistakes”

they lose it in the first paragraph with false equivalency ” Without a doubt, both foundations and their managers, including Ms. Clinton and Mr. Trump, have made mistakes”

then make it back on track further down “None of the allegations against the Clinton Foundation, much less the actually demonstrated facts, show this type of personal benefit to Ms. Clinton, her family or any business in which she or they had an interest.”

last line’s pretty good: ” This is where the Trump Foundation appears to have crossed into illegality, as the Post indicates, while the Clinton Foundation did not.”

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:29:27pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief…

[“I call blacks who support Trump “Incognegroes”: Trump supporter Pastor Darrell Scott just now on #hardball.]

I follow a biracial man who calls himself a ‘radical incognegro’.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:30:12pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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These people are delusional. Oh, we’re not bigots they say while they support the guy who is beloved by white supremacists. I prefer the honest bigots that admit that they support Trump because he actually speaks their language in a way that past Republican candidates would be more subtle about.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:30:46pm

Hillary Clinton’s timeline:

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William Lewis  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:32:35pm

Bleah. If there’s one thing about being sick, and day three of down with Pneumonia should count as that, is having to cook for one’s self.

Found a jar of cheap but actually not bad marinara, soe thin spaghetti & a can of “Chicken of the Sea Medium Shrimp, Deveined”. Ah, good, according to the corporate website the shrimps are pre cooked just need warming in the pan with the marinara.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:32:52pm

re: #349 Charles Johnson

Hillary Clinton’s timeline:

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Words can’t express how much I appreciate her talking about this. As a person with a disability- an invisible one at that, it’s been tough for me to find work. The GOP candidate, Trump mocks people with disabilities and the Libertarian candidate Johnson doesn’t think the government should do anything to address that problem. And then you have Jill Stein who thinks that vaccines cause my condition. Yep, I think I know who has my priorities and it ain’t even close.

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BeachDem  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:33:49pm

re: #236 ObserverArt

Hey! I’m pretty good for it too. /

Maybe we have a sub class.

By the way…Andrea Mitchell sucks. She is on MTP right now and is just terrible.

TV will be turned off in 7 minutes. I had my daily MSNBC dose and even one hour is getting to be too much.

I also have often carried on conversations with myself at the end of a thread long after everyone else has moved on.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:37:25pm

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:37:55pm

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Thanks for the suggestions.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:38:41pm

I wasn’t as worried as I should have been at the narrowing polls, because I knew we were still in the slump from Hillary’s pneumonia and the butthurt over the basket of deplorables. Then when Trump started stepping on his own dick (worse than usual) on Friday, I knew it would take till the middle of this week to start showing up in the polls.

So here we are. That NBC/WSJ poll looks like my sense of the situation. 42% seems to be a hard ceiling for Trump. People say they’re going to vote third party, but most of them who say that don’t do it. I feel better today than I did yesterday, and Trump is only going to say even worse shit if he’s falling behind.

Of course, in 2004 I thought the race was dead even, but Kerry would probably win, so what do I know?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:38:58pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:38:59pm

re: #350 William Lewis

Bleah. If there’s one thing about being sick, and day three of down with Pneumonia should count as that, is having to cook for one’s self.

Found a jar of cheap but actually not bad marinara, soe thin spaghetti & a can of “Chicken of the Sea Medium Shrimp, Deveined”. Ah, good, according to the corporate website the shrimps are pre cooked just need warming in the pan with the marinara.

You better hope so. It’s literally impossible to safely can uncooked meat.

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phoebesmother  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:40:06pm

Sorry to have my first post be to an well—filled comment thread:
I was as mad as Olbermann when this first came out (probably heard it first here or at TPM), so mad that I fumed and screamed and then emailed Paul Ryan even though email is said to be ineffectual, wanting SOME Republican to denounce this idiocy, since then Crickets … Crickets … Crickets. And an amazing amount of crickets about Birtherism.

This basket of deplorables is obviously over half.

Hello, all.

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freetoken  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:40:38pm

Finding Wordpress themes to be very frustrating. So many seem to break when I want to do what I want.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:40:46pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:41:22pm

re: #358 phoebesmother

Welcome to the jungle!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:41:36pm

re: #355 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I wasn’t as worried as I should have been at the narrowing polls, because I knew we were still in the slump from Hillary’s pneumonia and the butthurt over the basket of deplorables. Then when Trump started stepping on his own dick (worse than usual) on Friday, I knew it would take till the middle of this week to start showing up in the polls.

So here we are. That NBC/WSJ poll looks like my sense of the situation. 42% seems to be a hard ceiling for Trump. People say they’re going to vote third party, but most of them who say that don’t do it. I feel better today than I did yesterday, and Trump is only going to say even worse shit if he’s falling behind.

Of course, in 2004 I thought the race was dead even, but Kerry would probably win, so what do I know?

I feel a little better too. I was worried some after Obama’s first debate with Romney and Obama turned the ship around and I think the gap between Clinton and Trump as debaters is much more sharp between Obama and Romney. I guess I was a little greedy. I really wanted this to force the GOP to play a lot of defense to defend their House majority.

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Whack-A-Mole  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:41:54pm

re: #358 phoebesmother

Welcome!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:41:55pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:42:54pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:44:16pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We’re talking about a guy whose idea of sacrifice is making money for himself.

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calochortus  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:44:42pm

Good afternoon/evening (as applicable.) I am sort of caught up reading here, at last. I’ve been in the midst of 2 weeks Cleaning All the Things and am now about 3/4 of the way through. Yay. The kitchen is all sparkly and will remain that way until something is cooked in it- like dinner tonight.
However, being super busy has prevented me from worrying too much about The Donald, so that is good. We’ll see if things improve by the end of the week when I should be done with all that cleaning.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:44:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:45:27pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:47:02pm

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:49:00pm

Mood earlier in the thread:

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Bubblehead II  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:49:23pm

re: #358 phoebesmother

Sorry to have my first post be to an well—filled comment thread:
I was as mad as Olbermann when this first came out (probably heard it first here or at TPM), so mad that I fumed and screamed and then emailed Paul Ryan even though email is said to be ineffectual, wanting SOME Republican to denounce this idiocy, since then Crickets … Crickets … Crickets. And an amazing amount of crickets about Birtherism.

This basket of deplorables is obviously over half.

Hello, all.

Karma: 8

phoebesmother

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Well can’t really call you hatchling, but welcome all the same..

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:51:02pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He has been giving gibberish answers from the beginning of his Presidential campaign. Nothing is new.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:51:54pm

re: #366 HappyWarrior

And whose personal Vietnam was warding off STDs.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:52:20pm

re: #372 Bubblehead II

Well can’t really call you hatchling, but welcome all the same..

She can be a hatchling as long as she wants to.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:53:11pm

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:53:17pm

re: #366 HappyWarrior

We’re talking about a guy whose idea of sacrifice is making money for himself.

Well, there is his “personal Vietnam” of VD

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KGxvi  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:56:24pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reporter: Can you tell us why you’ve used funds from your charity to settle your personal debts?

IT’S A RARE THING, THIS CHARITY. WHAT NOBODY’S SEEMED TO NOTICE, AND THIS JUST PROVES THAT I’VE GOT TOP PEOPLE, THE BEST PEOPLE, IS THAT THE CHARITY IS SET UP TO BENEFIT ME. I MEAN, I CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA YEARS AGO, LIKE, WE’VE GOT THESE CHARITIES HELPING THE POORS AND THE SICKS, WHY NOT HAVE ONE TO HELP SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE LIKE ME?

Reporter: So, the whole thing is a scam?

YOU’RE OBVIOUSLY NOT VERY SMART, SO I’LL EXPLAIN IT AGAIN. THE WHOLE POINT OF THE CHARITY IS FOR ME TO GET FREE MONEY. IT’S REALLY SMART, INCREDIBLY SMART. AND IT WAS ALL MY IDEA

Reporter: Um, you know this is live, right?

OH, SHIT.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:57:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:57:36pm

*blink*

I suppose if you’re going to lie, make it a BIG LIE.

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calochortus  Sep 21, 2016 • 4:59:57pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I imagine it depends on what you chalk up to the cost of the epi-pen. A nice vacation? A sportscar? When you account for it all properly, why they hardly make any money at all.
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re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BeachDem  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:00:18pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:01:00pm

re: #378 KGxvi

Reporter: Can you tell us why you’ve used funds from your charity to settle your personal debts?

IT’S A RARE THING, THIS CHARITY. WHAT NOBODY’S SEEMED TO NOTICE, AND THIS JUST PROVES THAT I’VE GOT TOP PEOPLE, THE BEST PEOPLE, IS THAT THE CHARITY IS SET UP TO BENEFIT ME. I MEAN, I CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA YEARS AGO, LIKE, WE’VE GOT THESE CHARITIES HELPING THE POORS AND THE SICKS, WHY NOT HAVE ONE TO HELP SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE LIKE ME?

Reporter: So, the whole thing is a scam?

YOU’RE OBVIOUSLY NOT VERY SMART, SO I’LL EXPLAIN IT AGAIN. THE WHOLE POINT OF THE CHARITY IS FOR ME TO GET FREE MONEY. IT’S REALLY SMART, INCREDIBLY SMART. AND IT WAS ALL MY IDEA

Reporter: Um, you know this is live, right?

OH, SHIT.

“I know what you’re thinking: ‘How does this benefit me, Al Franken?’ “

Al predicted Trump thirty years ago….

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:01:39pm

re: #359 freetoken

Finding Wordpress themes to be very frustrating. So many seem to break when I want to do what I want.

I use Canvas from WooThemes. It is pretty much made for designers and allows you to use custom HTML and CSS coding on areas that will overwrite the theme code. I’m pretty sure other WP themes allow it to, but since I do have some experience with PHP, HTML and CSS and the Canvas theme I feel pretty comfortable with it.

The other nice Woo feature is WooCommerce which is a fairly simple way to set up an ecommerce store. I’ve done two so far and they work.

I used to have to deal with a costly ecommerce package called Mail Order Manager from a place called Diacomm. it was expensive as all get out and it was behind in the actual store setup on the web. One thing it did do for me was teach me database relationships with a server and a site. That made it easy for me to understand WooCommerce…and appreciate it!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:02:34pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:07:05pm

It’s almost like Trump has absolutely no grasp of macroeconomics.

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:07:38pm

re: #377 Anymouse

Well, there is his “personal Vietnam” of VD

I do not know how and why any ex-military person would back Trump based on that comment and the “I know more than the Generals” comment.

It seems you would have to be a pure Clinton and/or Democrat hater to back him after that crap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:07:51pm

re: #387 Blind Frog Belly White

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It’s because his hands are so tiny…

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freetoken  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:08:22pm

re: #379 Charles Johnson

People think “brusque” = true.

Odd human behavior.

If you use too many words, or too elaborate of words, people think you are concealing something.

Maybe this is an insight into human evolution? We still think words are magickal.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:11:14pm

re: #388 ObserverArt

I do not know how and why any ex-military person would back Trump based on that comment and the “I know more then the Generals” comment.

It seems you would have to be a pure Clinton and/or Democrat hater to back him after that crap.

Unfortunately a lot of veterans and even current military are filled with Democrat and HRC hate that they are willing to back him in spite of shit like that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:13:14pm

re: #387 Blind Frog Belly White

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Three of my four great grandfathers were from foreign countries who didn’t speak a lick of English when they arrived here. They helped built this country as have millions of other immigrants before and after them.

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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:14:21pm

re: #379 Charles Johnson

What crowd of imbeciles was polled to get to this result?

‘Trump leads Clinton on being honest & straightforward, 41% to 31%.’

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:14:45pm

re: #391 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately a lot of veterans and even current military are filled with Democrat and HRC hate that they are willing to back him in spite of shit like that.

Rush is in Voice of America. Decades of dem hate channeled straight to the front line.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:14:46pm

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s because his hands are so tiny…

So you’re saying he might do better with MICROeconomics?
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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:15:11pm

re: #393 EPR-radar

What crowd of imbeciles was polled to get to this result?

Trump leads Clinton on being honest & straightforward, 41% to 31%

Yeah I cannot believe that people accept this bs that Trump is honest and a straight talker. In fact, he’s probably one of the biggest bullshit artists ever to seek the office.

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:15:57pm

re: #393 EPR-radar

What crowd of imbeciles was polled to get to this result?

Trump leads Clinton on being honest & straightforward, 41% to 31%

It’s propaganda taking hold.

Benghazi!
Email!
Clinton Foundation!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:16:25pm

re: #394 MsJ

Rush is in Voice of America. Decades of dem hate channeled straight to the front line.

Yep. Knew about that. Unfortunately, one of the worst perpetrators of stupid right wing propaganda I know is a buddy of mine from HS who is a USMC vet. He’s a really nice guy honestly but man he posts the stupidest right wing crap. And my one really good buddy who has step brothers who are vets does the same crap. Drives me insane.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:16:57pm

re: #368 Charles Johnson

Well, she seems feisty. I like her.

I’ll have you know that you ruined my sleep for the week and possibly for the next couple of weeks. The other day you mentioned liking Penny Dreadful a lot. I’d noticed it on Netflix, but had disregarded with an eyeroll thinking, “Oh right, another vampire/Frankenstein rehash. No thanks.” WRONG! One episode on Monday night and I was hopelessly hooked. I’m on season two now.

Earlier I was kinda feeling like Vanessa Ives fighting the demon that’s scratching to get out…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:16:57pm
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freetoken  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:17:12pm

re: #397 MsJ

re: #396 HappyWarrior

I suspect the problem is the framing of a question, and combining “honest” with “straightforward”.

So much polling is really about, well, polling, and perhaps less about what is really happening regarding the upcoming election.

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:18:12pm

re: #381 calochortus

I imagine it depends on what you chalk up to the cost of the epi-pen. A nice vacation? A sportscar? When you account for it all properly, why they hardly make any money at all.
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I called to get a refill for my migraine medications to the VA.

They pointed out the medication was no longer on the formulary, because the company that owned it ran up the price about 1000%. They’re going to fiddle with another medication now to see if it will work.

This isn’t just a problem with Pharma-bro or EpiPens.

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:19:49pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:19:55pm

re: #400 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:20:25pm

re: #401 freetoken

I suspect the problem is the framing of a question, and combining “honest” with “straightforward”.

So much polling is really about, well, polling, and perhaps less about what is really happening regarding the upcoming election.

That’s a good point.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:20:56pm

re: #399 CuriousLurker

Well, she seems feisty. I like her.

I’ll have you know that you ruined my sleep for the week and possibly for the next couple of weeks. The other day you mentioned liking Penny Dreadful a lot. I’d noticed it on Netflix, but had disregarded with an eyeroll thinking, “Oh right, another vampire/Frankenstein rehash. No thanks.” WRONG! One episode on Monday night and I was hopelessly hooked. I’m on season two now.

Earlier I was kinda feeling like Vanessa Ives fighting the demon that’s scratching to get out…

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I was wrong! It’s a great series! The writing, acting and cinematography are incredible.

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:20:57pm

re: #390 freetoken

People think “brusque” = true.

Odd human behavior.

If you use too many words, or too elaborate of words, people think you are concealing something.

Maybe this is an insight into human evolution? We still think words are magickal.

I once wrote a rebuttal to someone on Disqus over a comment he wrote. I try to make sure the words I select accurately reflect my thoughts and nuance. What I got back in response was “you write like you’re gay.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:21:18pm

re: #395 Blind Frog Belly White

So you’re saying he might do better with MICROeconomics?
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“We’re fine with microevolutioneconomics, but there’s no such thing as macroevolutioneconomics.”

Repurposed Creationist talking point.

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:22:27pm

re: #402 Anymouse

I called to get a refill for my migraine medications to the VA.

They pointed out the medication was no longer on the formulary, because the company that owned it ran up the price about 1000%. They’re going to fiddle with another medication now to see if it will work.

This isn’t just a problem with Pharma-bro or EpiPens.

Assuming dems can get a foothold, I’m betting we’ll see either controls or government bargaining in our future.

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gocart mozart  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:23:52pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:26:13pm

re: #411 MsJ

Why do they keep fucking doing this?

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calochortus  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:26:25pm

re: #381 calochortus

I imagine it depends on what you chalk up to the cost of the epi-pen. A nice vacation? A sportscar? When you account for it all properly, why they hardly make any money at all.
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Incidentally, the Epi-Pen saga is even more corrupt than one might have thought. Gayle Manchin, wife of Joe Manchin (D-WV) and mother of the CEO of Mylan ended up as the chair of the WV Board of Education (helped along by political connections) and started the EpiPens4Schools program which provides some EpiPens free to schools but, also requires them to use only EpiPens. There is an antitrust investigation going on.

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TedStriker  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:27:29pm

re: #395 Blind Frog Belly White

So you’re saying he might do better with MICROeconomics?
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Well, Trump is the poster boy for “inverted micropenis”, so…

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calochortus  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:27:35pm

re: #402 Anymouse

I called to get a refill for my migraine medications to the VA.

They pointed out the medication was no longer on the formulary, because the company that owned it ran up the price about 1000%. They’re going to fiddle with another medication now to see if it will work.

This isn’t just a problem with Pharma-bro or EpiPens.

No, it certainly isn’t. In a way it’s a game everyone plays to get the most money for their drug, or on the other side, pay the least amount possible. Guess who gets squeezed?

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:27:47pm

re: #412 Eclectic Cyborg

Why do they keep fucking doing this?

Joel Gray and Liza Minelli - Money (Cabaret)

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:28:04pm

re: #407 Anymouse

I once wrote a rebuttal to someone on Disqus over a comment he wrote. I try to make sure the words I select accurately reflect my thoughts and nuance. What I got back in response was “you write like you’re gay.”

So basically this guy.

Idiocracy: Your Shit’s All Retarded (short version)

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freetoken  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:29:49pm

re: #407 Anymouse

I once wrote a rebuttal to someone on Disqus over a comment he wrote. I try to make sure the words I select accurately reflect my thoughts and nuance. What I got back in response was “you write like you’re gay.”

Getting back to my proposition that words are still magick to us, I wonder if by using too many words some people think a spell is being put on them?

The association of language skills with myth and religion is very strong.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:29:57pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

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re: #411 MsJ

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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:31:08pm

re: #409 MsJ

Assuming dems can get a foothold, I’m betting we’ll see either controls or government bargaining in our future.

It’s the obvious solution.

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:32:27pm

re: #412 Eclectic Cyborg

Why do they keep fucking doing this?

Greed.

Simple as that. Taking advantage of people in need and insurance companies that pay.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:32:46pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

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majii  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:32:49pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

In regard to Don King stumping for Trump:

As a black person in America, I think this was a major mistake on Trump’s part because he seems to think blacks have great admiration and regard for King when I think most of us don’t. We know King’s past history just as we know Trump’s. It also undervalues and underrates our intelligence and capacity for independent thought in selecting political candidates for whom we’ll vote. I don’t think King’s appearance with Trump will persuade many blacks to vote for Trump in November. In my case, Trump’s past words and actions speak for themselves, and at this point in the presidential campaign, I know who/what he is——a lying user and abuser who will do/say anything to become president, and I’m buying none of it. No matter how many other blacks Trump trots out to speak on his behalf, HRC has a lock on my vote, my daughter’s vote, and the votes of every other black person I’ve met and spoken with about Trump here in Middle GA. I’m not saying there won’t be some here who may vote for Trump, but it’s not as many as Trump seems to think.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:33:00pm

re: #412 Eclectic Cyborg

Why do they keep fucking doing this?

Greed.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:33:56pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mylan’s CEO says her company makes a mere $50 per EpiPen pack

Hollywood Pharmaceutical accounting.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:36:46pm

re: #421 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Iodoquinol:

Salicylic acid:

Well, aspirin is a little simpler, but not much. 99¢/100 vs. $10,000.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:37:12pm

re: #388 ObserverArt

I do not know how and why any ex-military person would back Trump based on that comment and the “I know more than the Generals” comment.

It seems you would have to be a pure Clinton and/or Democrat hater to back him after that crap.

They really believe he’s doing it just for show.

The real Trump isn’t that whack or bad.

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BeachDem  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:37:47pm

re: #410 gocart mozart

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Oh, Kellyanne: “Her answers are so lengthy, so lawyerly,” she said of the Democratic presidential nominee.

Yeah, as opposed to your guy’s short, carnival-barkery repetitive nonsense.

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:37:51pm

Trump may just be showing some major weakness on his foundation. The WaPo guy found the real crack in him and it could lead to all the media to jump in and start to tear him apart.

The TV ‘news’ cable stations are lazy. They needed someone else to develop a story and they will ride along.

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freetoken  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:38:01pm

re: #428 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Iodoquinol:

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Well, aspirin is a little simpler, but not much. 99¢/100 vs. $10,000.

That Nitrogen atom surely drove up the cost.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:38:49pm

re: #341 Charles Johnson

You can also now embed Twitter Moments, that new feature everybody thinks is pretty pointless. But it was easy to add, so what the heck.

This is what a Moments URL looks like:


And this is what it produces:

It may be just a coincidence, but the Tencent app WeChat also has a feature called Moments, where you can include photos, short vids and links. Their implementation is way smoother than Twitter’s, IMO.

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EPR-radar  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:39:48pm

re: #423 ObserverArt

Greed.

Simple as that. Taking advantage of people in need and insurance companies that pay.

Enough greed of that kind and big pharma gets nationalized.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:41:24pm

re: #425 majii

Trump got Don King. Sanders got Killer Mike. Both of them are tone deaf concerning minority issues. Well. Trump is more than tone deaf. He’s downright hostile.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:42:11pm

re: #420 Eventual Carrion

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

To Donald and his supporters, being “other” is reasonable cause.

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:43:03pm

re: #434 EPR-radar

Enough greed of that kind and big pharma gets nationalized.

Yes. And it will cause people to be put in a bad place no matter what political party they back and hopefully further the drive for healthcare reform on a large scale.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:43:12pm

re: #402 Anymouse

Lemme guess-a generic that now only has one manufacturer who decided to pull a Shkreli?

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MsJ  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:45:55pm

re: #430 BeachDem

Oh, Kellyanne: “Her answers are so lengthy, so lawyerly,” she said of the Democratic presidential nominee.

Yeah, as opposed to your guy’s short, carnival-barkery repetitive nonsense.

Honestly, it’s worrisome. Intelligence is nerdy and uncool. You use big words and THINK… That’s unconscionable! Talk to us like a real person! We don’t want a beer with a brainiac, we want fart jokes.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:46:42pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:46:47pm

re: #437 ObserverArt

Yes. And it will cause people to be put in a bad place no matter what political party they back and hopefully further the drive for healthcare reform on a large scale.

Nationalize Big Pharma and their threats to quit making vaccines because of low profit and liability risk will go away, and we can get rid of the “Vaccine Court” that’s paid out billions of dollars for no evidence, ever….

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meteor  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:49:34pm

re: #104 MsJ

Bzzzzt. Best show is “Too Cute” on Animal Planet.

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calochortus  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:50:16pm

re: #439 MsJ

Honestly, it’s worrisome. Intelligence is nerdy and uncool. You use big words and THINK… That’s unconscionable! Talk to us like a real person! We don’t want a beer with a brainiac, we want fart jokes.

It has been for a long time. Adlai Stevenson was derided as an “egghead.”

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Anymouse  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:55:47pm

re: #411 MsJ

Hmm, the Financial Times (a paper I have never read) says I have reached my limit on articles there (I guess that would be zero), and offers only a subscription plan.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:58:00pm

re: #444 Anymouse

Hmm, the Financial Times (a paper I have never read) says I have reached my limit on articles there (I guess that would be zero), and offers only a subscription plan.

Jeez—it’s even pink, like their print edition. What’s up with that?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 21, 2016 • 5:58:34pm

re: #441 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Nationalize Big Pharma and their threats to quit making vaccines because of low profit and liability risk will go away, and we can get rid of the “Vaccine Court” that’s paid out billions of dollars for no evidence, ever….

And it was almost one year ago to the day when Martin Shkreli started his shenanigans.

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Thanos  Sep 21, 2016 • 6:06:44pm
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scottslemmons  Sep 21, 2016 • 6:10:34pm

Off-topic as hell, but I just got done re-reading one of my favorite monster stories — “The Desrick on Yandro” by Manly Wade Wellman — and the character of Mr. Yandro is so much like Donald Trump, it’s a fair miracle Wellman didn’t write the story directly about him…

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 21, 2016 • 6:17:01pm

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m pretty sure “flummoxed” and “bemused” are not synonyms.

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2016 • 6:55:08pm

re: #243 Lidane

This is amazing:

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Tim used to live up the street from me.

Fantastic Fest at the Alamo this week!


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