Trump’s Key Aide Stephen Miller Follows David Duke On Twitter, And “Liked” Duke’s Pizzagate Tweet

Also liked a Duke “Pizzagate” tweet made just yesterday - he’s a total whackjob.
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Stephen Miller joined Trump’s campaign in January 2016, but did not gain worldwide attention until last week, as it became clear that this super-conservative 31 year old misanthrope, now a “senior advisor” to Trump, is drafting executive orders like the Muslim Ban. And he appeared on the Sunday talk shows this past weekend — pushing the ridiculous lie that millions of immigrants illegally voted in the election — earning a Trump tweet for a “great job.”

Miller has a little-noticed Twitter account, albeit a rather inactive one. In May 2016, Miller opened @StephenMillerAL (AL for Alabama — Miller worked for Alabama’s Sen. Jeff Sessions, our now Attorney General, from 2009-16. No doubt Miller helped engineer the Trump-Sessions lovefest.)

Until this past weekend Miller had made only 14 tweets, the last one being a July 31 tweet lampooning Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

Miller on Trudeau

The tweet disappeared on Monday when Trudeau visited the United States, so although Miller hasn’t tweeted in over six months, he hasn’t abandoned the account.

In late December (verified via a Google cache), Miller only had 34 followers on Twitter. As of February 15, he’s gone up to 213 followers, as some people stumble across his account. In the past few days, he’s deleted 4 of his original 14 tweets (including the Trudeau tweet), and stopped following 20 accounts (going from 78 to 58).

Miller Twitter changes

If you’re going to clean up some of your problematic follows, one would think you’d stop following this guy:

Trump whisperer Stephen Miller follows David Duke

Yes, Trump aide Stephen Miller follows white supremacist David Duke. And still follows him. Indeed, in the last day he just liked a David Duke tweet referencing the Pizzagate whackjob theory about a Clinton-linked child-sex trafficking ring.

Miller likes pizzagate.

Of course Miller also still follows nuts like @RealJamesWoods and @ScottBaio — it looks like he unfollowed unhinged accounts like “DEPLORABLE DANI” (@nimblenavgater), and @nikshmatko, a Ukrainian Trump fanatic who has made marble busts of Trump and French nationalist Marine LePen.

Unlike David Duke, this guy is a true artist!

Recent reporting on Miller’s past makes it clear that he grew up to hold anti-immigrant nationalist views. Openly following David Duke on twitter (and Duke professes to liking Miller) only makes it even more clear that Miller holds anti-immigrant/white nationalist views, despite being raised Jewish himself.

And this is one of the main people influencing Trump. This is insane.

ETA 9:50am PST 2/15/17: Within minutes of this post going live, Miller just tweeted for the first time since July, a retweet of a conservative cartoonist that he follows:

UPDATE at 2/15/17 1:05:41 pm by Charles Johnson
UPDATE at 2/15/17 1:27:47 pm by Charles Johnson

Miller also “liked” a tweet by Hunter Wallace (@occdissent), who runs the white supremacist hate site Occidental Dissent.

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UPDATE at 2/15/17 4:12:21 pm by Charles Johnson

The Trump administration has responded; they say this account is not really Stephen Miller’s.

However, some points:

1) Given how much lying comes out of the Trump administration, I think a little skepticism about their denial is warranted.

2) This denial is very easy to make, since the account wasn’t used very much or verified, and there’s no clear way to tie it to Miller definitively.

3) The account was created 9 months ago, long before Miller was well known, and has none of the usual signs of a parody account.

UPDATE at 2/15/17 5:57:13 pm by Charles Johnson

Whoever’s running this Twitter account deleted a retweet posted today of an ugly Ben Garrison cartoon, so the most recent tweet now showing is from July 2016. Here’s what it looked like earlier today:

And here’s what it looks like now:

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448 comments

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nines09  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:42:41pm

Shocking, eh?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:44:42pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:45:26pm

O CANADA

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:45:48pm

I like the evil, swearing Obama with a ciggie…

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:48:49pm

Want to know why Miller looks so unsettling? Something familiarly creepy about the dead eyed expression and prematurely balding head?

Maybe because he looks like a certain hitman from Beverly Hills Cop and Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:48:49pm

No wonder why Miller’s relatives are embarrassed that he’s related to them. Being a right wing ass is bad enough but being a right wing ass and Duke fan while Jewish.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:49:15pm

re: #4 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I like the evil, swearing Obama with a ciggie…

I feel kinda sorry for Ban Garrison (LOL so sorry not sorry) all that stalkery fanfic and unrequired love and not even one retweet from the hero he worships from afar.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:49:24pm

re: #5 Scottish Dragon

Want to know why Miller looks so unsettling? Something familiarly creepy about the dead eyed expression and prematurely balding head?

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Give him more fun hair and he’s Anton Chuguh.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:49:47pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

I feel kinda sorry for Ban Garrison (LOL so sorry not sorry) all that stalkery fanfic and unrequired love and not even one retweet from the hero he worships from afar.

He can draw but he has no insights.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:50:45pm

Stephen Miller retweets shitty untalented Nazi “cartoonist” Ben Garrison.

Shocked, surprised, etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:51:04pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

He can draw but he has no insights.

His art sucks. Grafitti taggers who spray their initials on moving subway trains have more skills.

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b.d.  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:51:59pm

some libtard obviously hacked his account and followed Duke

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:52:08pm

Reposted from downstairs:

re: #119 makeitstop

The IC, specifically the CIA, is doing this at a much quicker pace than even I thought. It correlates with whenever Trump attacks the IC on Twitter… they speed up the leaks.

Chaffetz is already being attacked and impugned by his own constituents and in the local media. I would be shocked to see him last beyond June and not “resign” for some odious reason or another.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:53:21pm
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Citizen K  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:53:44pm

re: #5 Scottish Dragon

Want to know why Miller looks so unsettling? Something familiarly creepy about the dead eyed expression and prematurely balding head?

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Oh god, that’s what’s been bugging me for so long. I knew he reminded me of someone.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:53:57pm

Charles, he also liked the Occidental Dissent guy.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:54:00pm

I’ll take “People who Deserve to be Beaten on Sight” for $200 Alex.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:54:23pm

re: #5 Scottish Dragon

“Even psychopaths have emotions, then again, maybe not.”

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:54:38pm

re: #10 Myron Falwell

Stephen Miller retweets shitty untalented Nazi “cartoonist” Ben Garrison.

Shocked, surprised, etc.

He’s a total shithead but no Nazi.

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b.d.  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:54:46pm

re: #18 Kragar

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“Even psychopaths have emotions, then again, maybe not.”

looks kinda like putin

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:55:07pm

re: #15 Citizen K

Oh god, that’s what’s been bugging me for so long. I knew he reminded me of someone.

Myself, I think it’s the ‘Uncanny Valley’ problem. He looks just human enough to be creepy, but not human enough to pass.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:55:13pm

Even if Trump gets impeached or 25thed, the entire administration from Pence on down is “Fruit of the Poison Tree”

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nines09  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:55:14pm

re: #17 Dave In Austin

I’ll take “People who Deserve to be Beaten on Sight” for $200 Alex.

“People I Wave Into The Crosswalk And Then Run Over” for $1000, Alex”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:55:25pm

re: #17 Dave In Austin

I’ll take “People who Deserve to be Beaten on Sight” for $200 Alex.

Somebody already used the German term Backpfeifengesicht, literally “A face that you just want to punch”

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:55:44pm

re: #18 Kragar

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“Even psychopaths have emotions, then again, maybe not.”

He is high in the estimation of Khorne…

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:56:38pm
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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:57:15pm

re: #20 b.d.

looks kinda like putin

Fish eyes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:57:17pm

it is awake again:

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:57:30pm

re: #21 Blind Frog Belly White

Myself, I think it’s the ‘Uncanny Valley’ problem. He looks just human enough to be creepy, but not human enough to pass.

Someone on Monday after his Sunday morning talking head blitz described him as having all the charm of a thing built from left over mass murderer spare parts.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:57:37pm

re: #19 Nyet

He’s a total shithead but no Nazi.

Quite a few of his “cartoons” do have obvious anti-Semitism elements. And I believe he’s used the infamous Nazi big nosed drawing at least once.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:57:51pm

And to think, Miller was headed for Press Secretary.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:58:27pm

re: #30 Myron Falwell

Quite a few of his “cartoons” do have obvious anti-Semitism elements. And I believe he’s used the infamous Nazi big nosed drawing at least once.

Lots of his cartoons have been edited by the actual Nazis to add antisemitism.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:59:30pm

re: #25 Scottish Dragon

He is high in the estimation of Khorne…

No way is Miller accepted by Khorne. Tzeentch maybe, though more probably Slaanesh.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:59:30pm

re: #27 Nyet

Fish eyes.

“Sometimes that shark, he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. Y’know the thing about a shark, he’s got… lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn’t seem to be livin’.”

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:59:31pm

re: #27 Nyet

Fish eyes.

Not really fish eyes. Just dead eyes. That was the really unsettling thing about about actor Jonathan Banks in Beverly Hills Cop. He looked dead. He ended up in several other hitman/bad guy roles in the 80’s and vanished for awhile before turning up as a bad guy again in Breaking Bad.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:00:20pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:00:21pm

re: #32 Nyet

Lots of his cartoons have been edited by the actual Nazis to add antisemitism.

That’s the thing. I’m less apt to look because his body of work infuriates me to the core. I’ll take your word for it, though…

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:00:23pm

re: #30 Myron Falwell

Quite a few of his “cartoons” do have obvious anti-Semitism elements. And I believe he’s used the infamous Nazi big nosed drawing at least once.

He did a fanfic of Fuckface as Van Helsing icing a standard Dracula but his fanboys didn’t think that was explicit enough so they Photoshopped the Stürmer face on Dracula.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:00:31pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:00:38pm

re: #34 Blind Frog Belly White

“Sometimes that shark, he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. Y’know the thing about a shark, he’s got… lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn’t seem to be livin’.”

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:00:40pm

re: #33 Kragar

No way is Miller accepted by Khorne. Tzeentch maybe, though more probably Slaanesh.

LMAO…. :D

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:01:25pm

re: #35 Scottish Dragon

OK, Miller has dead eyes (the thought actually occurred to me before it was mentioned here). But Putin’s grandpa was obviously a fish.

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b.d.  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:01:30pm

re: #27 Nyet

Fish eyes.

Miller’s long lost daddy?
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Sir John Barron  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:01:42pm

Duke retweeted something from Flynn who said—

Hey libtards you haven’t proven pizzagate to be false!!

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:01:49pm

re: #27 Nyet

Fish eyes.

“Fish heads, fish heads, roll polly fish heads…”

” Fish Heads ” 80’s MTV video by Barnes & Barnes

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:02:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:02:18pm

re: #43 b.d.

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fish lips, too

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:02:36pm

If you do a Google image search on Ben Garrison’s “art” he does a lot of straight up horrible white supremacist racism but the anti-Semitic memes are Photoshopped.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:03:01pm

re: #37 Myron Falwell

That’s the thing. I’m less apt to look because his body of work infuriates me to the core. I’ll take your word for it, though…

Just to be sure, the general atmosphere of his cartoons is very fascistic, style-wise. But he has denounced what he has termed the misuse of his cartoons by the antisemites who always add the “greedy Jew” or other memes into them.

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makeitstop  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:03:24pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

it is awake again:

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Maybe the sane wing of the FBI has regained control from the NY Office Trump Cultists?

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Jack Burton  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:03:29pm

re: #5 Scottish Dragon

I’m just going to start calling him Johnathan Banks.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:03:56pm

re: #34 Blind Frog Belly White

“Sometimes that shark, he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. Y’know the thing about a shark, he’s got… lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn’t seem to be livin’.”

That whole speech about the sinking of the Indianapolis was done over a phone completely off the cuff from John Milius to Spielberg. Milius is a right wing crank but the guy had fucking genius for coming up with dialogue.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:03:58pm

Not that I’m defending Ben Garrison or anything. He can DIAF after getting gang raped by mutant walking pufferfish.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:04:56pm

re: #45 Myron Falwell

“Fish heads, fish heads, roll polly fish heads…”

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Video

Eat them up…yum!

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:05:22pm

re: #53 The Vicious Babushka

Yep, just being accurate :D

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:05:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:05:57pm

re: #16 Nyet

Charles, he also liked the Occidental Dissent guy.

Which one was that?

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:06:32pm

doh

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:07:04pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

Hunter Wallace.

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:07:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:08:53pm

re: #59 Nyet

Hunter Wallace.

I’m not seeing that in his likes. Did he take it back?

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:09:11pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

Even if Trump gets impeached or 25thed, the entire administration from Pence on down is “Fruit of the Poison Tree”

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One way this plays out… if there’s even a couple molecules of integrity left is this:

Pressure mounts on Trump. Pence resigns, whether because info came out about him that causes a problem or because of an unidentified “health concern”. Congressional leadership tells Trump “this is who you’re appointing as VP, no one else will be acceptable” (it should be bipartisan, but since confirmation requires only a majority in each house, the GOP could do it on their own). New untainted VP is sworn in. Trump is impeached and removed. Untainted VP becomes president, vows not to run in 2020, replaces entire cabinet.

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:09:17pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:09:53pm

Roger Ailes got subpoenaed? This is fine

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:10:18pm
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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:10:44pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

Scroll down to July 21, 2016, still there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:11:00pm

re: #62 KGxvi

One way this plays out… if there’s even a couple molecules of integrity left is this:

New untainted VP is sworn in. Trump is impeached and removed. Untainted VP becomes president, vows not to run in 2020, replaces entire cabinet.

‘Taint no such thing in the GOP

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:11:39pm

Immediately a whole bunch of people on Twitter jumped on me to inform me that following David Duke doesn’t really mean anything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:11:59pm

re: #64 Myron Falwell

Roger Ailes got subpoenaed? This is fine

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Feds may be probing Fox News in undisclosed criminal investigation

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:12:10pm
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Belafon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:13:21pm

re: #70 lawhawk

That list was short enough he probably could have just named them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:13:23pm
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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:14:12pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

I’m not seeing that in his likes. Did he take it back?

Can you see it if, e.g., you blocked him or he blocked you?

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:14:31pm

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

‘Taint no such thing in the GOP

I just mean within the context of the Russian issue. I really do think, though, if this scenario plays out, the key will be the new VP/President agreeing not to run in 2020 (since they will have served more than half of Trump’s term, they’d only be eligible to run once on their own).

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nines09  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:15:44pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Immediately a whole bunch of people on Twitter jumped on me to inform me that following David Duke doesn’t really mean anything.

At all. Meaningless. Like that Confederate flag I fly. Meaningless. Just heritage. Never hurt a soul. Your imagination.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:15:54pm
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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:16:52pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not even a thank you for your service (but yeah, I pick the best people), even though I couldn’t get the nomination through the Senate that the GOP controls.

Shitstorm of the hour.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:17:03pm

re: #73 Nyet

Can you see it if, e.g., you blocked him or he blocked you?

Maybe that’s why. Can you post the tweet he liked?

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:17:29pm

That tweet I posted about 33 minutes? I’m beginning to think the scandals are coming on the 8s.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:17:40pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:17:43pm
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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:17:57pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Here it is:

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:18:02pm

re: #62 KGxvi

One way this plays out… if there’s even a couple molecules of integrity left is this:

Pressure mounts on Trump. Pence resigns, whether because info came out about him that causes a problem or because of an unidentified “health concern”. Congressional leadership tells Trump “this is who you’re appointing as VP, no one else will be acceptable” (it should be bipartisan, but since confirmation requires only a majority in each house, the GOP could do it on their own). New untainted VP is sworn in. Trump is impeached and removed. Untainted VP becomes president, vows not to run in 2020, replaces entire cabinet.

DC Republicans will never put country above party, so the only way that this could be sold to them is by convincing them that the Trump circus is bad for the party. That won’t be easy to do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:18:36pm
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Dave In Austin  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:19:19pm

Mo Brooks is an asshole

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:19:37pm
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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:19:41pm

re: #82 Nyet

Screenshot:

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Jack Burton  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:19:52pm

re: #79 lawhawk

That tweet I posted about 33 minutes? I’m beginning to think the scandals are coming on the 8s.

Puzder withdraws. Ailes subpoenaed. Flynn’s security clearance suspended.

JUMP!

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:20:54pm

re: #83 EPR-radar

DC Republicans will never put country above party, so the only way that this could be sold to them is by convincing them that the Trump circus is bad for the party. That won’t be easy to do.

A couple of polls showing that they’re trailing in potential re-election campaigns should do the trick. As my AP government teacher used to say, lo those many years ago, “the first priority of a politician is to get re-elected.”

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:21:10pm

NY AG being asked to bring action to investigate and sue to dissolve Trump Inc. for illegal practices and emolument violations.

Non-profit advocacy group Free Speech for People has asked New York’s attorney general to investigate whether to file a lawsuit to revoke the charter of The Trump Organization for violating state business laws.

In a letter to Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, the group and four attorneys said that the attorney general’s office has the power to revoke the corporate charter from Trump’s organization, which has violated laws that prohibit the president from receiving payments from foreign governments.

Schneiderman’s press secretary Amy Spitalnick told ThinkProgress that the attorney general’s office will review the letter.

This lawsuit, known as a “Quo Warranto” proceeding, would allow a judge to determine whether the corporation is a conduit for illegal activity.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:21:36pm

re: #83 EPR-radar

DC Republicans will never put country above party, so the only way that this could be sold to them is by convincing them that the Trump circus is bad for the party. That won’t be easy to do.

The only way is to find out what damaging info the Russians have on each Republican and then threaten to blast them with it unless they get with the program.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:21:40pm
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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:21:45pm

Hunter Wallace
@occdissent
Nationalist. Populist. Reactionary. #ProudGoys. #AltSouth.

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:22:04pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

What if they bring saline and the convicted doesn’t die? Do they get to go free since they defeated/cheated death?

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:22:27pm
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Sir John Barron  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:22:34pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

Hurr hurr, Dems=KKK!

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:22:42pm

re: #79 lawhawk

That tweet I posted about 33 minutes? I’m beginning to think the scandals are coming on the 8s.

Along with traffic and weather together on the 2s!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:22:51pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

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TedStriker  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:23:25pm

re: #35 Scottish Dragon

Not really fish eyes. Just dead eyes. That was the really unsettling thing about about actor Jonathan Banks in Beverly Hills Cop. He looked dead. He ended up in several other hitman/bad guy roles in the 80’s and vanished for awhile before turning up as a bad guy again in Breaking Bad.

Loved him in BHC and Armed and Dangerous, but while I’ve seen episodes of BB and BCS with him in them as Mike Ehrmantraut, I never put 2 + 2 together that it was the same actor…until now.

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:23:25pm

re: #94 KGxvi

What if they bring saline and the convicted doesn’t die? Do they get to go free since they defeated/cheated death?

You lawyers. Always thinking and stuff.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:23:28pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

Arizona’s death penalty protocol now invites attorneys of inmates to provide their own lethal injection drugs

That came up earlier…can you bring your own firing squad (armed with water pistols)?

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:23:39pm
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Jack Burton  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:23:52pm

How about noooooo…

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:23:53pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

Ah, the old exploring different viewpoints BS.

I can track white supremacists and neo Nazis without actually following them, liking them on Twitter, retweeting them, or otherwise hearting them.

These fuckers have let their hate flow, and Trump’s win is the prime reason we’re seeing all of these fuckers coming out of the woodwork. They’ve been there all along, but hiding in the shadows. Trump, Bannon, Miller, and all the rest showed that being a bigot, let alone a white supremacist, isn’t a barrier.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:24:31pm

Because of the ongoing circus in DC, world news gets less and less attention:

Sea ice around Antarctica hits record low, preliminary U.S. data show

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:24:48pm

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That came up earlier…can you bring your own firing squad (armed with water pistols)?

I figured I missed it on the overnight. I also figured I can’t be the only one.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:25:10pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

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Are they always so pathetically predictable? Yes the KKK was founded by Democrats. That was also 152 years ago and no one alive today’s party is based off of that. And Indiana had plenty of KKK Republicans as did Orange County and Maine.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:25:11pm

re: #87 Nyet

Screenshot:

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Yes, apparently I didn’t see that like because I blocked that creep. Unblocked him and now it’s showing up.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:25:23pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:26:28pm

re: #100 wrenchwench

You lawyers. Always thinking and stuff.

I move for a bad court thingy.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:26:50pm

re: #103 Jack Burton

How about noooooo…

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Wait, I thought Hillary was the war candidate… I was assured by Dr. Jill Stein, and she’ such an important person she sat at the same table with the leader of the free world (Russian version), she wouldn’t lie…

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:26:54pm

re: #88 Jack Burton

Puzder withdraws. Ailes subpoenaed. Flynn’s security clearance suspended.

JUMP!

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Jack Burton  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:27:03pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Are they always so pathetically predictable? Yes the KKK was founded by Democrats. That was also 152 years ago and no one alive today’s party is based off of that. And Indiana had plenty of KKK Republicans as did Orange County and Maine.

And the Democratic party was the “small government, states’ rights, rural over urban” party too. Who does that sound like now?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:27:23pm
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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:27:42pm

re: #110 Myron Falwell

I move for a bad court thingy.

I think that’s tennis.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:27:44pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

I figured I missed it on the overnight. I also figured I can’t be the only one.

yes, I am night shift here…just getting bedtime here in Central Europe…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:28:18pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Are they always so pathetically predictable? Yes the KKK was founded by Democrats. That was also 152 years ago and no one alive today’s party is based off of that. And Indiana had plenty of KKK Republicans as did Orange County and Maine.

They were very influential in the state of Arizona from 1921 - 25

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:28:20pm
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TedStriker  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:28:29pm

re: #52 Scottish Dragon

That whole speech about the sinking of the Indianapolis was done over a phone completely off the cuff from John Milius to Spielberg. Milius is a right wing crank but the guy had fucking genius for coming up with dialogue.

And, even though the account in Shaw’s Indianapolis speech isn’t entirely accurate with what we know now, particularly the number of sailors lost to shark attacks between the sinking and the rescue, Milius’ dialogue and Shaw’s delivery is haunting as fuck…definitely one of my favorite movie scenes.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:28:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:29:59pm
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Sir John Barron  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:31:10pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

What campaign?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:31:46pm

re: #115 wrenchwench

I think that’s tennis.

I miss Phil Hartman.

Lionel Hutz In court

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:32:41pm

re: #122 Sir John Barron

What campaign?

2020

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:32:53pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:33:56pm
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Romantic Heretic  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:34:02pm

re: #33 Kragar

I think Miller belongs to Nurgle. He’s a victim, vector and worshipper of a cultural disease.

The Fly Lord’s realm includes such plagues.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:34:29pm

re: #113 Jack Burton

And the Democratic party was the “small government, states’ rights, rural over urban” party too. Who does that sound like now?

Yep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:34:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:34:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:35:33pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:35:49pm

re: #3 The Vicious Babushka

O CANADA

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Why is everyone messin’ with Trump?

It’s like he is some kind of target or something.

People should leave Donny alone!!!

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:35:49pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Damn I take those props from Charlotte to visit my dad.

Scary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:36:20pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:36:33pm

re: #127 Romantic Heretic

I think Miller belongs to Nurgle. He’s a victim, vector and worshipper of a cultural disease.

The Fly Lord’s realm includes such plagues.

Grandfather Nurgle has bountiful rewards for all.

Whether you want those rewards is, of course, another matter altogether…

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:36:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:37:11pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:37:15pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

American Eagle jet strikes a deer while taking off from North Carolina airport.

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Belafon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:37:18pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep, relying on the word of someone who depends on it failing to increase their profits.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:37:22pm

re: #90 Scottish Dragon

NY AG being asked to bring action to investigate and sue to dissolve Trump Inc. for illegal practices and emolument violations.

And he’s seriously considering such a lawsuit. I hope he does.

Throw that in with Trump’s bull-headed buffoonery, the IC leaks, Mother Russia, and an angry populace… and the GOP rank-and-file will wind up dying of a thousand cuts.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:37:24pm

re: #132 ObserverArt

Why is everyone messin’ with Trump?

It’s like he is some kind of target or something.

People should leave Donny alone!!!

Shut the Fuck Up Donnie

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:37:26pm

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Society is breaking down.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:38:22pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

I feel kinda sorry for Ban Garrison (LOL so sorry not sorry) all that stalkery fanfic and unrequired love and not even one retweet from the hero he worships from afar.

Notably, he draws Cheeto Hitler to look like an aryan god, but even he can’t get Trump’s hair to look good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:38:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:40:49pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:41:04pm

And the hits just keep on coming!

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Dr. Matt  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:41:08pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

it is awake again:

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Belafon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:41:14pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

And anyway, why would she investigate people from her own party? //

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:41:54pm

Just posting this again as a reminder to the Dukes, Millers, Bannons et al who are trying to destroy the Republic and profit off of the remains.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:42:36pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:44:32pm

re: #149 Scottish Dragon

And let us not forget that Chris Evans has gone after David Duke and the white supremacists on Twitter.

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:44:43pm

Imma go fix a bike. I can keep up with those, when they’re secured in my repair stand.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:45:52pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

Either it’s a campaign event or a Trump-branded legal defense fundraiser.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:45:54pm
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Dr. Matt  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:46:04pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:46:11pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Kentucky AG is in on it!!1!!11

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:46:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:47:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:47:48pm
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Amory Blaine  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:48:42pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

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Pro-choice!!
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:49:08pm

re: #146 Myron Falwell

These sources spoke on condition that they not be identified because they were not formally authorized to disclose the information. While Newsweek was told which allied nations intercepted the communications and are gathering intelligence on Trump associates, the sources did so on condition that the countries not be identified out of concern those governments would incur the president’s wrath.

The Western European intelligence operations began in August, after the British government obtained information that people acting on behalf of Russia were in contact with members of the Trump campaign. Those details from the British were widely shared among the NATO allies in Europe. The Baltic nation has been gathering intelligence for at least that long, and has conducted surveillance of executives from the Trump Organization who were traveling in Europe.

These operations reflect a serious breakdown in the long-standing faith in the direction of American policy by some of the country’s most important allies. Worse, the United States is now in a situation that may be unprecedented—where European governments know more about what is going on in the executive branch than any elected American official. To date, the Republican-controlled Congress has declined to conduct hearings to investigate the links between Trump’s overseas business partners and foreign governments, or the activities between Russia and officials in the Trump campaign and administration—the very areas being examined by the intelligence services of at least two American allies.

Some details about Trump’s business partners were passed to the American government months ago. For example, long before the president’s inauguration, German electronic surveillance determined that the father of Trump’s Azerbaijani business partner is a government official who laundered money for the Iranian military; that information was shared with the CIA, according to a European source with direct knowledge of the situation.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:49:19pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:50:07pm
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nines09  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:51:43pm

So I remarked to a fellow tweeter who said they had contacted their reps on phone, and I said that must be nice, mine does not answer and the mailbox is full. They sent me this link. Up to 5 free faxes a day. No landline needed. Cool. 5 free faxes a day with the Reps and Senators links provided.

NICE!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:51:51pm

Here’s the line of people waiting just to sign up to testify on 3 abortion bills. Dozens already registered #txlege

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:51:57pm
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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:52:16pm
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Sir John Barron  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:54:45pm

re: #162 MsJ

Join me in Florida this Saturday at 5pm for a rally at the Orlando-Melbourne International Airport!
Tickets: donaldjtrump.com pic.twitter.com

— Donald J. Trump

The campaign rallies will continue until morale improves.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:55:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:55:24pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:55:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:56:38pm
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Belafon  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:56:54pm

re: #171 FormerDirtDart

All of us bacon lovers should start hanging around mosques.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:58:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:00:34pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:00:49pm

I have this weird fantasy where I’m the guy who replaces Trump and I walk into the White House with a posse of law enforcement and point to these guys and say “Him, him, him, him, arrest them now” and I confiscate their phones, lock down their e-mails, send in a team of bug-sniffers and computer intel people to sweep the place clean. I personally kick the alt-right doucheweasels out of the press room, then I start making phone calls and kicking ass and restoring the Republic to functionality… Feels good man

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scottslemmons  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:02:46pm

I always want to encourage people who say “Democrats invented the KKK” to support legislation to outlaw the Klan and the American Nazi Party…

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:04:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:06:58pm
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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:07:38pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:07:45pm

The comrades at DPRK will sometimes address commercial pop culture, since they understand this to be a major concern of western masses, incomprehensible though that concern is.

Couldn’t immediately identify the chap in the picture, though he did look familiar. Turns out he is pop-culture wheel Piers Morgan. Background on referenced feud:

‘Biggest failure’ Piers Morgan SLAMS Harry Potter-loving son amid heated J.K. Rowling feud

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:09:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:12:51pm

heh

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:13:12pm

re: #181 Shiplord Kirel

Morgan is an überdouche.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:15:27pm

Not sure if this was reported.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:15:33pm

The “Make Trump Tweets Eight Again” chrome extension is awesome:

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:20:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:20:42pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:21:12pm

re: #143 Ace-o-aces

Notably, he draws Cheeto Hitler to look like an aryan god, but even he can’t get Trump’s hair to look good.

No one can get Trump’s hair to look good.

Garrison loves that sort of rock’a’billy pompadour look with the tail.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:21:47pm

I’m expecting Miller to unfollow Duke any minute, and undo his retweet.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:22:07pm

I don’t know why…it’s not like he’s working or anything.

Of course, he likely knows as much about Bball as he does governing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:22:09pm

link to story now included

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:23:09pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Shits going to go down. The SS need to talk him out of this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:24:14pm
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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:29:33pm

re: #193 Stanley Sea

Shits going to go down. The SS need to talk him out of this.

They aren’t going to because he needs this to survive. He has a pathological need for adoration. He cannot function with out it. And he is barely functioning now.

I don’t think they will be able to talk him out of it.

And shit is definitely going to go down at some point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:29:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:31:29pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You’d know a thing or two about dishonesty wouldn’t ya NRA? After all the idea you actually care about gun owners for starters when you’re really judtvthe firearms industry bitch.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:32:05pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fascist drunk says what.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:33:25pm

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:33:52pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sean, your boss literally said Wikileaks is great, you don’t get to complain about leaks with that reputation. Fact is they leaked it because Trump was continuing to employ Flynn. Fuck you, fuck Trump, fuck Flynn, and fuck Putin.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:34:02pm
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CleverToad  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:34:13pm

re: #162 MsJ

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I don’t trust the RoguePOTUSStaff account anyway, but this reply has a suspicious odor of rodent pheromones wafting about it. Anybody who plans to protest this ridiculous rally needs to keep a sharp eye out for the rats.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:34:44pm

re: #193 Stanley Sea

Shits going to go down. The SS need to talk him out of this.

He’ll get 45 uninterrupted minutes to attack the IC, the media, and Hillary. He really is a fucking third rate dictator.

But, as the scandals grow, the crowd sizes and venues are going to shrink to humiliating levels.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:36:33pm

re: #202 CleverToad

I don’t trust the RogueStaff account anyway, but this reply has a suspicious odor of rodent pheromones wafting about it. Anybody who plans to protest this ridiculous rally needs to keep a sharp eye out for the rats.

That holds true for any rally. But protests must continue. We literally have no other voice. Dems cannot do anything, they are in the minority. Trump finally turned the comment line back on, and I am sure no one cares what is said. Petitions on wh. gov? Ignored.

There is no other voice. This is our only voice. And when we lose that, the fascists win.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:38:38pm

Dana Rohrabacher…my surprise…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:39:53pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:40:40pm

re: #202 CleverToad

I’d claim as many tickets as possible and not show up. Deny him the audience.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:41:24pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Keep laughing, you drunk piece of shit. You’re next…

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:41:27pm

re: #193 Stanley Sea

Shits going to go down. The SS need to talk him out of this.

I agree with MsJ.

Trump is a malignant narcissist and he has a pathological need for adulation. All relationships are transactional. If you are not giving him the respect and attention he needs, than you are denying it or even worse: you are taking respect from him and insulting him. He famously brags about how he plots to get even with people who insult him.

After a month in the WH, Trump is in a serious deficit of positive attention. He is being mocked daily. Hundreds of leaks paint him as pathetic and wandering the WH at night in darkened corridors with his Blackberry.

He needs a hit…a fix…whatever. He has to have his crowd telling him everything is great and to go punish all of his enemies.

It is pathlogical codependency on a national scale.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:41:53pm
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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:42:28pm

re: #207 Myron Falwell

I’d claim as many tickets as possible and not show up. Deny him the audience.

They will just fill it with sycophants just like every other event. We need to show a presence of protest. Something he cannot miss or say is support (as he did when he was leaving FL last weekend tweeting about supporters when there were miles of protestors).

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:43:25pm

re: #176 Pawn of the Oppressor

Not weird, patriotic!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:43:27pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dana Rohrabacher…my surprise…

Says a Taliban and Lepen fanboy.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:43:34pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dana Rohrabacher…my surprise…

Didn’t take long for protesters and constituents to be labeled as enemies of the state.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:44:13pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

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Damn it Hillary.// too soon?

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:46:00pm

I took somebody’s idea (above, which I cannot find because I am mentally challenged today) and expanded it.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:46:20pm

re: #202 CleverToad

I don’t trust the RoguePOTUSStaff account anyway, but this reply has a suspicious odor of rodent pheromones wafting about it. Anybody who plans to protest this ridiculous rally needs to keep a sharp eye out for the rats.

Oh, the protesters will be there regardless.

But yes, this sounds like a fatal shooting waiting to happen.

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Belafon  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:46:23pm

re: #207 Myron Falwell

I’d claim as many tickets as possible and not show up. Deny him the audience.

That is actually a great idea.

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CleverToad  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:49:28pm

News from the battlefront, in the effort to slow down the GOP destruction spree. Threatening public lands in the West is stirring up the hornet’s nest, and making poor Senator Gardner uncomfortable.

dailykos.com

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:51:19pm
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CleverToad  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:54:33pm

re: #204 MsJ

That holds true for any rally. But protests must continue. We literally have no other voice. Dems cannot do anything, they are in the minority. Trump finally turned the comment line back on, and I am sure no one cares what is said. Petitions on wh. gov? Ignored.

There is no other voice. This is our only voice. And when we lose that, the fascists win.

I agree that we need to keep protesting, loudly and visibly. What I don’t trust is why that particular account is directing folks to this one specific event. Have they previously encouraged protest in general, or suggested that protestors target other events? What’s in it for whoever is running the account?

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:55:05pm

re: #219 CleverToad

News from the battlefront, in the effort to slow down the GOP destruction spree. Threatening public lands in the West is stirring up the hornet’s nest, and making poor Senator Gardner uncomfortable.

dailykos.com

What fucking horseshit. Don’t protest where we can see you…go waaaaayyyy over there so you’re not a bother to us.

Talk about taking our voices from us.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:56:39pm

re: #221 CleverToad

I agree that we need to keep rallying, loudly and visibly. What I don’t trust is why that particular account is directing folks to this one specific event. Have they previously encouraged protest in general, or suggested that protestors target other events? What’s in it for whoever is running the account?

I understand the reticence. I haven’t seen any ratfucking there but, as said, we always have to be on our toes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 2:59:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:00:53pm

re: #225 Charles Johnson

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and there’s been no obvious move to have twitter delete it as an imposter account.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:01:03pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

He did give Defense 30 days to come up with a plan. This will be it sorry to say. I wouldn’t fight for him.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:02:09pm

re: #199 nines09

“…but it was delicious.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:02:24pm

re: #225 Charles Johnson

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Yeah a fairly obscure Sessions staffer with a fake profile. I mean it’s possible sure but I am skeptical too.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:03:46pm

Stephen Miller, the tweet denier.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:04:20pm

re: #231 Nyet

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:04:43pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

And next year, terminate the environment.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:06:46pm

The Garrison retweet has disappeared.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:08:34pm

re: #232 Nyet

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I mean it’s possible someone could have started one but as I said unlikely.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:08:36pm

re: #233 jaunte

And next year, terminate the environment.

Well, you know, we can’t let CHYNAH beat us, and they’ve got a headstart.

Count On COAL!!!
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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:08:51pm
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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:10:22pm

Fucking republicans, part 692,345,234,566

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:10:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:11:15pm

re: #239 Charles Johnson

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Sean Spicer would never lie.//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:11:18pm

re: #237 MsJ

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Huh. So, basically among the Fox News crowd, we atheists are as hated as Muslims. Surprised nobody’s talked about banning us.

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John Hughes  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:11:22pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Being a right wing ass is bad enough but being a right wing ass and Duke fan while Jewish.

Can we stop this racist shit already?

Jews have as much right to be right wing racists as anyone else.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:11:53pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Does anybody know if that bill will bypass rules in the Senate that allow for filibuster?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:13:34pm

re: #233 jaunte

And next year, terminate the environment.

The Republicans are terminating themselves.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:15:07pm

re: #241 Blind Frog Belly White

Huh. So, basically among the Fox News crowd, we atheists are as hated as Muslims. Surprised nobody’s talked about banning us.

Are you a democrat? Yes, they are already talking about banning us. :-)

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:15:12pm

Tom Toro

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:15:58pm

Poorly worded tweet but interesting article.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:18:27pm

re: #242 John Hughes

Can we stop this racist shit already?

Jews have as much right to be right wing racists as anyone else.

It’s the Duke fan. Duke is strongly anti Semitic. I wasn’t saying Jews are immune from bigotry just that Miller being a fan of an anti Semitic ass like was quite telling. Sorry if I offended.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:20:06pm

Where’s that I CAN’T EVEN chart? I think I am nearing “I just can’t” but I am not sure.

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:21:22pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

States will handle all this? That’s just nuts when so much of what entails the environment doesn’t stay within one state’s borders. That goes for water (rivers, lakes, aquifers) as well as air. Who’d pay for Superfund cleanups? Or manage fuel economy standards for cars.

Yeah, this is idiocy. It shows a fundamental lack of understanding of what federal agencies and departments do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:24:13pm

re: #250 lawhawk

it’s all about those pesky burdensome environmental regulations for coal, oil, environmental impact studies, etc.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:24:25pm

I have no idea which of these stories will survive past a few days, what new ones will be discovered, what old ones will be resurrected.

But for sure, Trump owns the news, with all sorts of bad attention.

Yet the theo-fascists don’t seem to care. They are fully bought into the Trump narrative.

And the usual suspects, like Reps. King and Rohrbacher, will do their best to abet Trump in destruction of responsible and reasonable governance, all in the name of the Je$u$.

Sad that during my lifetime the US has taken such a giant step backwards. I am not totally surprised though, as I realized long ago when battling with creationists that the modern world is just too much for some people. They don’t want it, and they’re going to burn it down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:25:06pm

uh…

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:27:03pm
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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:29:07pm

re: #250 lawhawk

The EPA protects minorities. No wonder the GOP wants to eliminate it.

Around the feedlots, Muhammad said people complained of headaches, burning eyes and runny noses, respiratory illnesses, and stress. Those who drew water from shallow wells complained of its bad smell and taste, and air samples captured higher foul-smelling hydrogen sulfide in the air.

“This has been on everybody’s radar screen since the industry started coming into the state,” Muhammad said. “People started seeing the changes, documenting the changes, reporting the changes, and nothing changed.”

Meanwhile, she said, students at UNC’s public health school matched permits issued by DENR to addresses on a map. The sites were all located in minority communities, “and you can see that on a map without a doubt.”

news.vice.com

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scottslemmons  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:30:46pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh…

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Smells like Rage Furby to me…

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:30:54pm

re: #255 jaunte

The GOP wants to undo environmental justice efforts, which attempt to repair the damage done when companies dump chemicals or pollute in low income, minority, or even Native American lands and try to make amends.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:34:45pm

re: #255 jaunte

The EPA protects minorities. No wonder the GOP wants to eliminate it.

news.vice.com

That’s how it is with every single “nuisance” business operation.
Back in the 1980s a representative from Waste Management in Illinois flat out told me that landfills were sited in poor areas because the upper classes wouldn’t stand to have anything like that anywhere near their neighborhoods.
Much like how the DAPL pipeline got rerouted away from its original route near white neighborhoods onto Native lands.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:34:51pm

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:36:07pm

Even if that EPA bill passes the House (no sure thing), it will probably die in the Senate. There are just too many Republicans in the Senate who are not that stupid or desperate.

Now, something much more likely is a new law that sets limits on the EPA’s ability to limit things like CO2.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:37:04pm

I suspect the Trump crackdown on journalists is coming very soon.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:37:57pm

If this staffer is real (and the tweets sound genuine)…this is terrifying.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:39:06pm

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

Other than keeping them out of the press room, there isn’t a whole lot more that he can do.

Sure, Trump can try to order some federal agency (e.g., the IRS) to go after a journalist, but that will surface really quickly.

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DuckDharma  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:40:14pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

That part of DAPL story is actually not true. snopes.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:40:21pm
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freetoken  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:40:53pm

re: #262 Scottish Dragon

I don’t know what is “real” on twitter. It’s a vast land of electronic foo.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:41:06pm

re: #262 Scottish Dragon

Is there any evidence it is genuine?

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:43:09pm

re: #262 Scottish Dragon

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If this staffer is real (and the tweets sound genuine)…this is terrifying.

This one smells like ratfucking to me. But what do I know?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:43:26pm

re: #262 Scottish Dragon

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If this staffer is real (and the tweets sound genuine)…this is terrifying.

Wow.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:43:48pm

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

If you do a Google image search on Ben Garrison’s “art” he does a lot of straight up horrible white supremacist racism but the anti-Semitic memes are Photoshopped.

Yep. He’s railed about neo-Nazis supplanting his own message by editing in anti-semitic faces on his art. The thing is, that is the ONLY thing they have changed - everything else in the artwork is unchanged, and Garrison has repeatedly dogwhistled racist messages in his cartoons, and during the 2016 campaign had alt-right images and messages all over the place. Literally he’s just upset that there are people out there who say exactly what he wants to say but is afraid of losing what few sources of income he has.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:44:05pm

re: #267 Nyet

Is there any evidence it is genuine?

Yeah good point, don’t know what to believe anymore.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:45:24pm

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Yeah good point, don’t know what to believe anymore.

And that is part of the problem with Trump, and with Bannon’s disruption campaign.

Part of the goal is to make anything and everything doubtful, to cause chaos.

It’s ratfucking all the way down…

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:46:15pm

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Yeah good point, don’t know what to believe anymore.

I think journalists need to be super careful these days because trump and his team want something completely untrue to point to so they can say SEE! ALL LIES!

I also think reputable journalists know this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:46:18pm

re: #264 DuckDharma

That part of DAPL story is actually not true. snopes.com

OK, better ( sourced) example is Rex Tillerson:

Our ruling

Food & Water Watch said Tillerson “sued to keep a fracking project out of his backyard.”

Tillerson joined a lawsuit that listed noise nuisance and traffic hazards among the plaintiffs’ many concerns, though he later dropped out of the litigation.

We rate the claim Mostly True.

politifact.com

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:47:01pm

re: #267 Nyet

Is there any evidence it is genuine?

Hard to say. All you have to go on is what an anonymous person reports and whether it conforms to things that should be accurate for the place described.

The descriptions of Trump and Bannon etc sound credible and they within parameters of previous conduct.

Now, that could be extrapolated by somebody with a good sense of story telling and who has paid attention and has some knowledge of Washington workings. That would be thousands of people.

However, I guarantee that the leak finders in the WH are trying to see if this is real.

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:47:42pm

re: #262 Scottish Dragon

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If this staffer is real (and the tweets sound genuine)…this is terrifying.

What’s the end game here? Trying to dig up dirt on them? Is the plan to blackmail them? Impeach them?

This is the sort of thing that is more likely to lead to Trump’s own impeachment than that of judges.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:48:06pm

re: #273 MsJ

I think journalists need to be super careful these days because trump and his team want something completely untrue to point to so they can say SEE! ALL LIES!

I also think reputable journalists know this.

Yes indeed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:48:58pm

re: #273 MsJ

I think journalists need to be super careful these days because trump and his team want something completely untrue to point to so they can say SEE! ALL LIES!

I also think reputable journalists know this.

Also, journalists at WaPo (and I think NYT) already have a well-publicized and secure contact address for stuff like this. There’s no reason that the tweeter needs to ask for someone to DM him/her.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:49:11pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That airport is a 100% publicly owned facility (owned by the City of Melbourne, Florida.) Seems like it should be against the rules to allow it to be used for an explicitly labeled “campaign” activity. Also, what other legit business does Trump have there, or is he paying AF1’s costs for that leg of his trip out of his own private campaign coffers?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:49:37pm

re: #268 MsJ

This one smells like ratfucking to me. But what do I know?

I think it is likely the person is on the level. He/she is describing events and behavior similar to other leakers to the NYT etc.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:51:46pm

Seconded…

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:51:50pm

re: #273 MsJ

I think journalists need to be super careful these days because trump and his team want something completely untrue to point to so they can say SEE! ALL LIES!

I also think reputable journalists know this.

Nobody is going to try to break a major story off of an anonymous leak account. They will see if the info matches other sources. If this is ratfucking, it would have to match what other leaks are doing and that would mean it is effectively leaking.

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:52:10pm

re: #275 Scottish Dragon

Hard to say. All you have to go on is what an anonymous person reports and whether it conforms to things that should be accurate for the place described.

The descriptions of Trump and Bannon etc sound credible and they within parameters of previous conduct.

Now, that could be extrapolated by somebody with a good sense of story telling and who has paid attention and has some knowledge of Washington workings. That would be thousands of people.

However, I guarantee that the leak finders in the WH are trying to see if this is real.

One of the simplest ways to find a leak is to tell three different people, three different things, and then see what ends up in public. It was one of the first things Tyrion Lannister did in order to figure out who was in his sister’s pocket.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:52:25pm

re: #276 KGxvi

What’s the end game here? Trying to dig up dirt on them? Is the plan to blackmail them? Impeach them?

This is the sort of thing that is more likely to lead to Trump’s own impeachment than that of judges.

How do you reason with someone so utterly unhinged and willfully divorced from reality?

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:53:33pm

Trump’s ‘presidency’ has been about as awful as I expected it to be — a bunch of deeply stupid and malicious idiots yanking randomly at the levers of power to see if they get lucky and win a jackpot.

It remains true that Trump, even president Trump, is merely a symptom of the underlying problem of the total corruption of the Republican party. The GOP has become a cesspit of willful ignorance and bigotry that will continue to excrete abominations like Trump until it is radically reformed (which is an impossible dream at the moment).

Nothing that Trump has done in office is a surprise, so his voters own all this shit, and those who stood aside or voted 3rd party also share the blame.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:53:39pm

Stop whatever you are doing and WATCH. THIS. SNL. SKIT. RIGHT. NOW.
Kellyanne Conway and Jake Tapper in “Fatal TV Attraction”

Jake Tapper - SNL

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:54:54pm

re: #284 Myron Falwell

How do you reason with someone so utterly unhinged and willfully divorced from reality?

Most people have some sort of internal logic/rationale. The key is figuring out what it is for someone like Trump. He may be so angry and vile at this point that there’s no way to reason with him, even if you understand his internal logic. At that point, all you can do is exploit his weaknesses and cause him to come crashing down.

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compound_Idaho  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:55:04pm

re: #243 Scottish Dragon

Executive order. Same is true for OSHA.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:55:25pm

I am really on the fence here. I am considering unfollowing them.

Republicans are the villains. That is the message we need to get out. Didn’t we hear BANKS and WALL STREET through Bernie all the damned time? What did that get us? There was nothing to prosecute banks for. We need laws and that comes from congress. We didn’t prosecute most people we often call “evil” because there was nothing to prosecute them for.

I am not a fan.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:55:46pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also, journalists at WaPo (and I think NYT) already have a well-publicized and secure contact address for stuff like this. There’s no reason that the tweeter needs to ask for someone to DM him/her.

I would agree, accept that it would be first step in authenticating who is leaking. IE anybody could send info to the NYT leak line and claim to be whatever. Establishing provenance on twitter would at least tell you who a source was in the future on the secure line if that route is used. That doesn’t prove that the leak is actually genuine in the first place, but it still establishes that your source is a particular account on twitter and not somebody else entirely.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:57:27pm

re: #287 KGxvi

Most people have some sort of internal logic/rationale. The key is figuring out what it is for someone like Trump. He may be so angry and vile at this point that there’s no way to reason with him, even if you understand his internal logic. At that point, all you can do is exploit his weaknesses and cause him to come crashing down.

Trump is clearly a special case, but the casual acceptance of IOKIYAR among Republicans is already a formidable obstacle to reasoning and rational persuasion.

Taking ‘party over country’ to the extremes that Republicans do is setting the US up for a civil war.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:57:30pm

re: #283 KGxvi

One of the simplest ways to find a leak is to tell three different people, three different things, and then see what ends up in public. It was one of the first things Tyrion Lannister did in order to figure out who was in his sister’s pocket.

That scheme has been around since God knows when.

The account seems to be talking about things he or she sees or hears through the course of the day.

Several other sources to the media have done similar things. Trump, Bannon etc say fucked up things in view of multiple witnesses and somebody talks about it.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:57:40pm

re: #281 FormerDirtDart

Seconded…

I like RudeJ’s take (who is me) better.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:58:24pm

re: #282 Scottish Dragon

Nobody is going to try to break a major story off of an anonymous leak account. They will see if the info matches other sources. If this is ratfucking, it would have to match what other leaks are doing and that would mean it is effectively leaking.

All I am saying is that we need to be careful of confirmation bias. That’s all.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 3:59:41pm

re: #283 KGxvi

One of the simplest ways to find a leak is to tell three different people, three different things, and then see what ends up in public. It was one of the first things Tyrion Lannister did in order to figure out who was in his sister’s pocket.

And I would venture to guess that those in the WH know that.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:02:03pm

re: #294 MsJ

All I am saying is that we need to be careful of confirmation bias. That’s all.

True.

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:02:21pm

re: #292 Scottish Dragon

That scheme has been around since God knows when.

The account seems to be talking about things he or she sees or hears through the course of the day.

Several other sources to the media have done similar things. Trump, Bannon etc say fucked up things in view of multiple witnesses and somebody talks about it.

Yeah, noticed that the account seems to be dropping bits that are semi-private (for lack of a better term).

As far as finding the leaks, it’s actually rather amazing that whoever is searching for the leakers hasn’t tried that. Or maybe they’re worried that all three things end up in public?

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austin_blue  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:04:19pm

re: #133 Stanley Sea

Damn I take those props from Charlotte to visit my dad.

Scary.

The CRJ7 is a twin jet, two in the tail. Impact shoved one of the slat mounts into the wing fuel cell, causing the fuel leak. This increases the pucker factor in the cockpit, often requiring the surgical removal of seat cushions.

I fear that Bambi did not survive the incident.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:05:06pm

re: #297 KGxvi

Yeah, noticed that the account seems to be dropping bits that are semi-private (for lack of a better term).

As far as finding the leaks, it’s actually rather amazing that whoever is searching for the leakers hasn’t tried that. Or maybe they’re worried that all three things end up in public?

I think that Nixon had access to better ‘plumbers’.

For starters, he actually had a staffed WH and administration. Trump does not. Almost all deputy level positions you would task for an investigation are unfilled and likely will remain unfilled.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:06:02pm

re: #289 MsJ

I am really on the fence here. I am considering unfollowing them.

Republicans are the villains. That is the message we need to get out. Didn’t we hear BANKS and WALL STREET through Bernie all the damned time? What did that get us? There was nothing to prosecute banks for. We need laws and that comes from congress. We didn’t prosecute most people we often call “evil” because there was nothing to prosecute them for.

I am not a fan.

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It is a fact of political life that Republicans can win where their only message is “Democrats are evil”, while Democrats who run on “Republicans are evil” usually fail.

IMO, the Democrats really missed an opportunity after the crash of 2008. Just about everyone thinks the banks got away with all kinds of criminal behavior, whether or not it was technically illegal.

So the response should have been twofold:

1) Prosecute any actual violations of the laws (surely the prohibitions on fraud are broad enough to at least get a few criminal investigations launched).

2) If, as likely, it turns out that the laws are written precisely to make most or all of the banks’ misbehavior legal, rake bank executives over the coals in Congressional hearings as part of an effort to drum up support for reform of applicable law.

See Pecora hearings after the crash of 1929 for an example of how it’s done. This is not hard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:06:06pm

LOL at the suggestion an executive order can bypass Senate rules.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:06:21pm
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Citizen K  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:10:29pm

Don’t look now but…well…

Comey strikes again, from the looks of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:10:40pm
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Interesting Times  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:11:10pm

re: #249 MsJ

Where’s that I CAN’T EVEN chart? I think I am nearing “I just can’t” but I am not sure.

Here you go :/

As for this “rally”, Bannon is most likely planning to use it for a Reichstag Fire event.

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:11:27pm

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

Subtweetcomment?

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Timothy Watson  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:12:39pm

re: #303 Citizen K

Don’t look now but…well…

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Comey strikes again, from the looks of it.

Then they will have no problems releasing the transcripts of the calls and of any and all interviews conducted with Flynn and others.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:13:46pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

What an awkward photo. And stop with the thumbs-up, you putz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:13:50pm

re: #306 wrenchwench

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:15:07pm

re: #305 Interesting Times

Here you go :/

As for this “rally”, Bannon is most likely planning to use it for a Reichstag Fire event.

Thanks! I CANNOT. I passed “I just can’t even” a while ago.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:16:24pm

re: #291 EPR-radar

Trump is clearly a special case, but the casual acceptance of IOKIYAR among Republicans is already a formidable obstacle to reasoning and rational persuasion.

Taking ‘party over country’ to the extremes that Republicans do is setting the US up for a civil war.

If the IC leaks incriminate the entire GOP House and Senate leadership, and they still go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, the result could be even worse than that.

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:16:31pm

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:18:08pm

re: #303 Citizen K

Don’t look now but…well…

Comey strikes again, from the looks of it.

Not a surprise. It’s very evident that the CIA is at war with the FBI.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:18:41pm

re: #312 wrenchwench

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:18:48pm

re: #249 MsJ

Where’s that I CAN’T EVEN chart? I think I am nearing “I just can’t” but I am not sure.

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Pretty much.
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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:18:56pm

The translation from bing:

The NSC Chief Advisor to resignation received Trump on Mon, Mike Flynn’s “security kleransi” temporarily cancelled, particularly on the forehead.

I like it.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:19:00pm
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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:19:06pm

LOL!

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fern01  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:19:44pm

re: #36 Kragar

Classified Info was leaked

While Trump was ogling women in the restaurant

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:20:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:21:04pm

re: #289 MsJ

I am really on the fence here. I am considering unfollowing them.

Republicans are the villains. That is the message we need to get out. Didn’t we hear BANKS and WALL STREET through Bernie all the damned time? What did that get us? There was nothing to prosecute banks for. We need laws and that comes from congress. We didn’t prosecute most people we often call “evil” because there was nothing to prosecute them for.

I am not a fan.

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See, this is what has turned me frustrated with the left of the party. One of my cousins works on WS. She’s brilliant, our family’s first Ivy Leaguer, and very open minded. She’s not a heartless banker villain. Does WS have problems? Yes that’s why things like Dodd-Frank were needed but the people who work there aren’t all cartoon villains either.

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:21:25pm

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:24:27pm
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Timothy Watson  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:24:33pm

re: #289 MsJ

I am really on the fence here. I am considering unfollowing them.

Republicans are the villains. That is the message we need to get out. Didn’t we hear BANKS and WALL STREET through Bernie all the damned time? What did that get us? There was nothing to prosecute banks for. We need laws and that comes from congress. We didn’t prosecute most people we often call “evil” because there was nothing to prosecute them for.

I am not a fan.

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Has that line of attack ever been successful? Jesus, by this point, it’s cliched. It reminds of the stuff Limbaugh et al. have been using for years as strawmen.

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Interesting Times  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:24:56pm
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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:25:08pm
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compound_Idaho  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:25:16pm

re: #288 compound_Idaho

Executive order. Same is true for OSHA.

Both Nixon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:26:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:27:37pm

hahahahahaaa

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:28:10pm

re: #321 HappyWarrior

See, this is what has turned me frustrated with the left of the party. One of my cousins works on WS. She’s brilliant, our family’s first Ivy Leaguer, and very open minded. She’s not a heartless banker villain. Does WS have problems? Yes that’s why things like Dodd-Frank were needed but the people who work there aren’t all cartoon villains either.

My husband got in a lot of trouble at various sites by simply asking “What laws were broken that you will use to throw them in jail?” He was called everything from conservative asshole (he is not the former and sometimes the latter :-D) to…well, you know. It is a valid question, though. You can’t throw someone in prison you don’t like any more than they can throw you in for your views. (At least at the moment.)

While there are times he makes me nuts sometimes, he is almost always valid in his thinking. I think that is what frustrated me most with Bernie. There was no THERE there in all his ranting - and he has been a lawmaker for 20+ years. He knows better. Many don’t.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:28:30pm

re: #305 Interesting Times

Here you go :/

As for this “rally”, Bannon is most likely planning to use it for a Reichstag Fire event.

I may have asked Preznit Turmp on Twitter about what #PresidentBannon has planned for a Reichstag Fire already… Strangely, he didn’t answer my question. :(

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:28:30pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Immediately a whole bunch of people on Twitter jumped on me to inform me that following David Duke doesn’t really mean anything.

But somehow it was okay to inextricably link President Obama with Rev Wright and and Bill Ayers for reasons.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:28:35pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahaaa

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Over/under three months until Pence loses his office space in the West Wing?

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:28:53pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

They want to make sure Trump can understand it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:29:25pm

re: #185 MsJ

The sad thing here with the Times is they should have reported that he is more widely known for being proclaimed “The Stupidenst Man on the Internet” by many factual-reporting blogs, as opposed to the Gateway Pundit’s continued spreading of falsehoods.

Methinks a Letter to the Times is in order here.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:30:11pm

re: #324 Timothy Watson

Has that line of attack ever been successful? Jesus, by this point, it’s cliched. It reminds of the stuff Limbaugh et al. have been using for years as strawmen.

I think I wasn’t as explicit as I should have been. We need to say WHY Republicans are villians. Loud and proud. Now is going to be the perfect time because literally all the stuff dems have been saying, and people were pooh poohing, is playing out in real time.

I don’t agree with a simplified THEY SUCK BECAUSE. We need to define that “because”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:30:42pm
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:31:34pm

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

I like it when he curses Donald out. Like the tweets that said “No one is paying for your stupid fucking wall.”

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:32:31pm

re: #316 wrenchwench

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The translation from bing:

The NSC Chief Advisor to resignation received Trump on Mon, Mike Flynn’s “security kleransi” temporarily cancelled, particularly on the forehead.

I like it.

You can remove the Mark of the Beast? Who knew?!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:33:55pm

Malcolm Nance: Trump aides who had intercepted communication with Russian intel “need to start getting lawyers” on.msnbc.com

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Belafon  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:34:35pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

It only counts if you can get three other Republicans to join you.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:34:50pm

re: #339 Shiplord Kirel

You can remove the Mark of the Beast? Who knew?!

You can remove Iron Maiden??!!

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:37:17pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah…somebody mentioned that yesterday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:37:19pm

“I like what [@POTUS] is doing. I like the attack on overregulation. I like the Cabinet appointments.” - @SenateMajLdr

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:37:28pm

One reason I’m especially leery of anonymous insiders tweeting/blogging directly to the public - back during the Obama Administration, there was some clown claiming to be in insider in the White House, who told all sorts of stories that went pretty much exactly as wingnuts would dream they would, like Panetta and Clinton locking Obama in a bathroom while they ran the ObL raid without him, because he couldn’t bring himself to have ObL killed.

I saw wingnuts on my Old Stomping Grounds eat it up, because it was exactly what they wanted to believe. I watched as they went from mildly skeptical to ardent believers in these blog posts as their confirmation bias overrode any critical thinking.

That’s why I’ll stick with reports from actual journalists. Anonymous sources are not anonymous to the journalist. They know who they are, and can confirm what their actual job is.

The thing is, these days you really don’t need to follow an anonymous alleged insider. Stories with the most jaw-dropping details have multiple sources. This Administration leaks like a bullet-riddled cartoon character.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:38:41pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

Why would anyone follow a bigot? Doesn’t make any sense at all unless that’s your thing. Over and over again, Trump and his sycophants associate with, follow, retweet and push the views of White Supremacists. It’s plain to see what side they’re on.

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:38:54pm

re: #339 Shiplord Kirel

You can remove the Mark of the Beast? Who knew?!

It’s almost time to run your Demon story again. Soon…

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:40:03pm
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Belafon  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:40:23pm

I think some reporters need to start really looking into McConnell and Ryan, not necessarily for any ties to Russia, but for what could be used by Russia for blackmail.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:40:42pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, no big deal since there won’t be an EPA next year, thanks to the GOP.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:41:06pm

Fuck John Brabender on Hardball.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:43:02pm
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austin_blue  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:44:21pm

re: #321 HappyWarrior

See, this is what has turned me frustrated with the left of the party. One of my cousins works on WS. She’s brilliant, our family’s first Ivy Leaguer, and very open minded. She’s not a heartless banker villain. Does WS have problems? Yes that’s why things like Dodd-Frank were needed but the people who work there aren’t all cartoon villains either.

Amen, brother.

I worked for the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality for twenty years. The staff busted their butts to do the right thing. It was the brass (appointed by Republican Governor’s) who set policy. Staff knew Climate Change was an established, ongoing threat. We saw it in increasingly bizarre weather, monster droughts, killing floods, and wildfires that destroyed thousands of houses in a weekend.

The brass denied its existence or its ability to affect the economy of the State.

When talking about what needs to be regulated, start at the top of the food chain and work your way down. Clerks and account managers didn’t invent tranches and CDOs. It was the money boys.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:44:25pm

re: #352 Kragar

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Because people who play sports for a living are known for their political acumen.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:45:21pm

re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:46:01pm

re: #330 MsJ

My husband got in a lot of trouble at various sites by simply asking “What laws were broken that you will use to throw them in jail?” He was called everything from conservative asshole (he is not the former and sometimes the latter :-D) to…well, you know. It is a valid question, though. You can’t throw someone in prison you don’t like any more than they can throw you in for your views. (At least at the moment.)

While there are times he makes me nuts sometimes, he is almost always valid in his thinking. I think that is what frustrated me most with Bernie. There was no THERE there in all his ranting - and he has been a lawmaker for 20+ years. He knows better. Many don’t.

The kids that followed Bernie I understood their ignorance. They haven’t been around long and many of them were in fact born after Sanders got into Congress. But Sanders himself yeah he should know better. He’s been around. I also didn’t like how Sanders planned to respond when he encountered difficulty with Congress as president- “We’d have rallies to protest.” Uh no Bernie, your job as President would be to try to persuade them. I liked Sanders at first but I began to quickly see why when it was clear teh race would be him against Hillary, nearly every including many quite progressive lawmakers lined up behind her.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:46:19pm

re: #345 Blind Frog Belly White

One reason I’m especially leery of anonymous insiders tweeting/blogging directly to the public - back during the Obama Administration, there was some clown claiming to be in insider in the White House, who told all sorts of stories that went pretty much exactly as wingnuts would dream they would, like Panetta and Clinton locking Obama in a bathroom while they ran the ObL raid without him, because he couldn’t bring himself to have ObL killed.

I saw wingnuts on my Old Stomping Grounds eat it up, because it was exactly what they wanted to believe. I watched as they went from mildly skeptical to ardent believers in these blog posts as their confirmation bias overrode any critical thinking.

That’s why I’ll stick with reports from actual journalists. Anonymous sources are not anonymous to the journalist. They know who they are, and can confirm what their actual job is.

The thing is, these days you really don’t need to follow an anonymous alleged insider. Stories with the most jaw-dropping details have multiple sources. This Administration leaks like a bullet-riddled cartoon character.

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Sure, I see where you are coming from.

The account I mentioned above is interesting from more of an ‘anthropological’ POV in that it is daily “what the fuck am I seeing?” and gripes about toxic office politics. The alleged staffer doesn’t seem to be trying to drop a fake story. It is more of an ongoing trainwreck of dysfunction, anger and ineptitude.

I read the complete timeline and it is fascinating in its detail of personality and backstabbing.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:46:57pm

re: #352 Kragar

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I care why? And I honestly doubt it’s that high.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:48:30pm

re: #353 austin_blue

Amen, brother.

I worked for the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality for twenty years. The staff busted their butts to do the right thing. It was the brass (appointed by Republican Governor’s) who set policy. Staff knew Climate Change was an established, ongoing threat. We saw it in increasingly bizarre weather, monster droughts, killing floods, and wildfires that destroyed thousands of houses in a weekend.

The brass denied its existence or its ability to affect the economy of the State.

When talking about what needs to be regulated, start at the top of the food chain and work your way down. Clerks and account managers didn’t invent tranches and CDOs. It was the money boys.

It’s like those who get mad at soldiers during unjust wars. The rank and file didn’t make the decision to go to war. The brass did. Regulation is needed, no doubt about it but going THE BANKS, the same way Republicans talk about government workers does us no favors. It honestly does fuel those who believe that we hate people for success.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:48:52pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

I care why? And I honestly doubt it’s that high.

A lot of jocks in High School weren’t assholes. Mostly, those guys weren’t jocks in college. The jock fraternity at my college? Assholes.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:50:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:50:13pm

re: #360 Blind Frog Belly White

A lot of jocks in High School weren’t assholes. Mostly, those guys weren’t jocks in college. The jock fraternity at my college? Assholes.

Yeah i actually got a long fine with a lot of the jocks in HS. Honestly never had any problems with any of the basketball players I interviewed in college either.

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:53:09pm

Trump will breathlessly talk about how his tax plan will be awesome and hurt HR Block.

Reality will be so different, because unless you’re eliminating all the credits, deductions, and exclusions, plus having the IRS send you a filled out return that you then modify, none of this will happen. You’ll still need a tax professional to do your taxes (or use tax prep software). Cutting the number of brackets doesn’t change complexity. Reducing rates wont do it either.

Even getting rid of the AMT wont completely solve things easier, but it would make it easier/cheaper for rich people to do their returns. And they’ll end up paying a lot less too.

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:55:55pm

I’ve discovered the most amazing noise

Later, lizards.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:56:05pm
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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 4:57:26pm

re: #363 lawhawk

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compound_Idaho  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:00:25pm

re: #363 lawhawk

Figuring out your tax is easy. Just pull it off the table. Figuring out your income is complicated.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:00:36pm

re: #330 MsJ

My husband got in a lot of trouble at various sites by simply asking “What laws were broken that you will use to throw them in jail?” He was called everything from conservative asshole (he is not the former and sometimes the latter :-D) to…well, you know. It is a valid question, though. You can’t throw someone in prison you don’t like any more than they can throw you in for your views. (At least at the moment.)

While there are times he makes me nuts sometimes, he is almost always valid in his thinking. I think that is what frustrated me most with Bernie. There was no THERE there in all his ranting - and he has been a lawmaker for 20+ years. He knows better. Many don’t.

Let’s suppose all that shit done by the bankers really was legal. If so, there should have been Congressional hearings where bank executives were obliged to go on record with what they did and exactly how it was legal. That’s the way to generate public pressure for banking law reform. This kind of PR stunt is why we even have an SEC now.

As a result of the Pecora Commission’s findings, the United States Congress passed the Glass-Steagall Banking Act of 1933 to separate commercial and investment banking, the Securities Act of 1933 to set penalties for filing false information about stock offerings, and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, which formed the SEC, to regulate the stock exchanges.

en.wikipedia.org

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austin_blue  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:01:03pm

re: #362 HappyWarrior

Yeah i actually got a long fine with a lot of the jocks in HS. Honestly never had any problems with any of the basketball players I interviewed in college either.

Not a lot of ‘roid rage on BB teams. Smaller group, too. College football players and liquor? Run away!

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:02:01pm

re: #363 lawhawk

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Trump will breathlessly talk about how his tax plan will be awesome and hurt HR Block.

Reality will be so different, because unless you’re eliminating all the credits, deductions, and exclusions, plus having the IRS send you a filled out return that you then modify, none of this will happen. You’ll still need a tax professional to do your taxes (or use tax prep software). Cutting the number of brackets doesn’t change complexity. Reducing rates wont do it either.

Even getting rid of the AMT wont completely solve things easier, but it would make it easier/cheaper for rich people to do their returns. And they’ll end up paying a lot less too.

The only way that H&R Block would be upset with Trump is if he retroactively changes the tax code at sometime in mid-March that would require a complete re-write of their software and forcing thousands of people to file amended returns.

Worked for a professional tax software company about a little over a decade ago, and remember none too fondly when the GW Bush administration did this in early 2002 as a response to 9/11 attacks. Accountants back then lost a lot of income due to the number of non-billable hours of work that incurred for them.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:05:58pm

This. I am wondering why in the hell ANG A-10’s have not been all over that spy ship.

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BigPapa  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:07:15pm

Kelleyanne Conway not answering reporter’s questions:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:07:24pm

re: #369 austin_blue

Not a lot of ‘roid rage on BB teams. Smaller group, too. College football players and liquor? Run away!

Speaking of BB players, no doubt as an Austin guy, you remember it being erported that Kevin Durant had really shockingly low numbers in his bench pressing ability. But yeah I like basketball players and coaches more than I do football players and coaches typically. One of my favorite coaches and honestly one of my inspirations for how I coach is Gregg Popovich. I love how he emphasizes the team above the individual.

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austin_blue  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:07:46pm

re: #370 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

The only way that H&R Block would be upset with Trump is if he retroactively changes the tax code at sometime in mid-March that would require a complete re-write of their software and forcing thousands of people to file amended returns.

Worked for a professional tax software company about a little over a decade ago, and remember none too fondly when the GW Bush administration did this in early 2002 as a response to 9/11 attacks. Accountants back then lost a lot of income due to the number of non-billable hours of work that incurred for them.

It’s a good point. CPA’s are consultants, basically, and live and die by billable hours. When you change the rules just before a filing deadline, you cost consultants money.

“You couldn’t have done this in September?!?!”

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:09:23pm

Roger Fucking Stone on MSNBC right now.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:09:23pm

re: #368 EPR-radar

Let’s suppose all that shit done by the bankers really was legal. If so, there should have been Congressional hearings where bank executives were obliged to go on record with what they did and exactly how it was legal. That’s the way to generate public pressure for banking law reform. This kind of PR stunt is why we even have an SEC now.

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah there definitely should have been investigations. I think what MsJ and I are talking about though is this idea and I do have a problem with Sanders for spreading it is this idea that everyone on Wall Street is a greedy asshole just out to get you. He really doesn’t help legitimate arguments for regulating Wall Street and punishing corporate crime when he goes noun, adjective, Wall Street in every stump speech.

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:10:10pm

re: #371 Scottish Dragon

We know that they’re there. They know we know. Everyone knows.

The issue isn’t that the Russian spy ship is there. It’s what they’re gathering based on a WH that doesn’t give a shit about operational security relating to classified info, having smartphones widely used around said information and confidential conversations.

This administration leaks like a sieve, and they just are there to scoop it all up from international waters…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:10:15pm

It would have been completely out of character for him to spend time figuring out that the job was nothing like the campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:12:16pm

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

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It would have been completely out of character for him to spend time figuring out that the job was nothing like the campaign.

He likes people telling him he’s great. In short, he’s a pathetic egomaniac who needs to be loved or else he can’t function. And hey older wingnuts who love to bitch about Millenials and “participation trophies”, your fucking guy is much fucking worse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:12:27pm

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

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It would have been completely out of character for him to spend time figuring out that the job was nothing like the campaign.

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austin_blue  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:12:58pm

re: #371 Scottish Dragon

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This. I am wondering why in the hell ANG A-10’s have not been all over that spy ship.

We use Predators for that now. I guarantee that if one is in the eastern US, it is watching that boat very closely. Groton is home port to swarmers (hunter/killers) not boomers (ICBM/Cruise Missile subs). Which is odd. If I was worried about fallout about the election diddling, I’d have a boat down in southernmost Georgia, where we’ve got our boomers homeported.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:17:15pm

re: #381 austin_blue

We use Predators for that now. I guarantee that if one is in the eastern US, it is watching that boat very closely. Groton is home port to swarmers (hunter/killers) not boomers (ICBM/Cruise Missile subs). Which is odd. If I was worried about fallout about the election diddling, I’d have a boat down in southernmost Georgia, where we’ve got our boomers homeported.

Buzzing the hell out of an unwelcome guest with tactical fighters delivers a much stronger message than watching a drone on radar.

BTW…the Russians buzzed one of our warships only a couple of days ago.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:18:25pm

re: #381 austin_blue

We use Predators for that now. I guarantee that if one is in the eastern US, it is watching that boat very closely. Groton is home port to swarmers (hunter/killers) not boomers (ICBM/Cruise Missile subs). Which is odd. If I was worried about fallout about the election diddling, I’d have a boat down in southernmost Georgia, where we’ve got our boomers homeported.

It’s too early for Russian jets to be flying supersonic at low altitude over Washington DC. Trump & Co. need to be give more time for their demolition activities. For now letting the world know that a Russian spy boat is operating with impunity is sufficient for Putin’s plans.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:19:42pm

re: #381 austin_blue

We use Predators for that now. I guarantee that if one is in the eastern US, it is watching that boat very closely. Groton is home port to swarmers (hunter/killers) not boomers (ICBM/Cruise Missile subs). Which is odd. If I was worried about fallout about the election diddling, I’d have a boat down in southernmost Georgia, where we’ve got our boomers homeported.

King’s Bay. I lived in Brunswick, Georgia for years…just a few miles up the coast. Probably within outer blast radius of an airburst nuke.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:20:07pm

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

The only crowds he’s going to see are those protesting. He’ll be lucky to get 100-1 supporters. His “supporters” either know someone who’s getting fucked by him or think he’s being a cuck for: backing down on China, saying something nice about Jews, or one of the zillion other things he lied about.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:21:04pm

re: #385 MsJ

The only crowds he’s going to see are those protesting. He’ll be lucky to get 100-1 supporters. His “supporters” either know someone who’s getting fucked by him or think he’s being a cuck for: backing down on China, saying something nice about Jews, or one of the zillion other things he lied about.

Since it is at an airport, the protesters will be some distance away most likely.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:23:26pm

re: #386 Scottish Dragon

Since it is at an airport, the protesters will be some distance away most likely.

I could see dedicated people buying $49 tickets to somewhere close like ATL. All you need is a boarding pass.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:23:30pm

BBL

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:24:47pm

For archival purposes.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:29:37pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:29:50pm

re: #383 EPR-radar

It’s too early for Russian jets to be flying supersonic at low altitude over Washington DC. Trump & Co. need to be give more time for their demolition activities. For now letting the world know that a Russian spy boat is operating with impunity is sufficient for Putin’s plans.

There is an even more concerning piece of this to me. That boat isn’t just sitting off the coast for purposes of sightseeing the shoreline of our east coast. It is a very very safe bet that it is in communication with someone(s) in an attempt to avoid NSA eavesdropping. Narrow-beam transmissions without knowing the point of origin would be nearly impossible to track.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:32:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:33:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:35:00pm

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe you’ll think about this next time, you just decide to support “Your party” eh John.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:35:16pm

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

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It would have been completely out of character for him to spend time figuring out that the job was nothing like the campaign.

Because he’s literally President of just his supporters. The rest of us are his enemies as he tweeted recently. He’s not even going to make a half hearted attempt to unite this country.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:35:19pm

re: #391 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Compromise the security of the US or cut taxes, kill the ACA, EPA, and regulations in general.

There’s no question which choice the GOP supports.

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austin_blue  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:35:30pm

re: #391 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

There is an even more concerning piece of this to me. That boat isn’t just sitting off the coast for purposes of sightseeing the shoreline of our east coast. It is a very very safe bet that it is in communication with someone(s) in an attempt to avoid NSA eavesdropping. Narrow-beam transmissions without knowing the point of origin would be nearly impossible to track.

You’d be surprised. Our Elint capacities are pretty vast. Russian capabilities are still pretty half-vast.

😎

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:36:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:37:08pm

re: #398 goddamnedfrank

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Mike, did you see whose running mate you agreed to be? The guy who lies about every stupid thing. No sympathy for you. You signed up for this shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:37:10pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:37:20pm

re: #293 MsJ

I like RudeJ’s take (who is me) better.

Me too!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:37:55pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:39:17pm

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

Once again John McCain shows how worthless he is. Maybe if you’re not too busy screwing people, you and your chums could look into this.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:40:08pm

re: #398 goddamnedfrank

Just turn your head and ask the fat guy wearing the red tie.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:40:25pm

Glad they finally grew a small set of balls.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:41:14pm

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why on Earth does McCain say the White House should ‘clean up its act’?

This clown show is what the Republican party stands for these days.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:41:39pm

The entire fucking 2016 campaign, from soup to nuts, was a Russian intel operation designed to destroy the most qualified and capable presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:41:50pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:41:53pm

re: #400 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ve said before, Manafort’s involvement with the campaign should have triggered a government-wide APB and put everybody on notice that the Russians had their hand in. You don’t roll that deep with the gangsters WITHOUT quid pro quo in place. I’m kind of shocked it’s taken so long for this to start getting serious.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:42:03pm

re: #389 Nyet

For archival purposes.

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Yes, he deleted the retweet from today of that Ben Garrison cartoon to make it look like the account has been inactive since July 2016. This is so freaking fishy.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:43:22pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:43:38pm

re: #406 MsJ

Glad they finally grew a small set of balls.

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I’ll take what I can get from Congressional Democrats, but their hints of spinelessness on the Gorsuch nomination are irritating.

There is no such thing as a ‘normal political process’ with Trump in the White House.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:43:41pm

re: #406 MsJ

Glad they finally grew a small set of balls.

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Schumer’s been good so far. And honestly I love seeing this turnabout after how the Republicans got elected after ACA’s implementation. And man do I love seeing Republicans including many who benefited from the Tea Party wave in 2010 complaining about crowds.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:44:11pm

re: #408 goddamnedfrank

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The entire fucking 2016 campaign, from soup to nuts, was a Russian intel operation designed to destroy the most qualified and capable presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

I had forgotten about Devine.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:44:23pm

Holy shit! ICE now literally enabling domestic abuse.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:44:33pm

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Roh roh Raggy.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:45:47pm

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

He turned it over to the FBI? Shit!

That’s the last anyone will ever hear of it.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:46:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:46:26pm

re: #416 goddamnedfrank

Holy shit! ICE now literally enabling domestic abuse.

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It’s terrifying what’s going on now. So many people who have been here so long now have to live in fear but hey at least the assholes can feel comfortable saying racist shit again! //

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:46:48pm

re: #400 Backwoods_Sleuth

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RE: The evening stories

They probably call all day trying to get comments from the whitehouse, & when the day ends & no one responded they hit publish.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:47:08pm

re: #418 Skip Intro

He turned it over to the FBI? Shit!

That’s the last anyone will ever hear of it.

That was my first thought too. Fucking FBI did it to themselves. Who can trust them now? I certainly don’t.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:47:16pm

re: #419 goddamnedfrank

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Yeah Jeff, too bad you enabled the most anti-American president ever elected.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:47:43pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:48:06pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Tiberi has parts of Columbus. He’s held that seat for a few elections too. It used to be Kasich’s when he was in the House but has since been “strengthened” by some creative gerrymandering.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:48:09pm

John McCain modus operandi; Every once in awhile grandpa snaps to consciousness, says something that seems cognitive, and then he’s gone again.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:48:50pm

www2.gmu.edu
My senator at my alma mater. Man what I wouldn’t give to have him be VP right now and HRC pres.

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:49:15pm

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

CNN reporting: Pence wants answers, wants to know which White House Aide kept info from him.

Vice Presidential Kayfabe

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:49:29pm

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s going to give you a swirlie eventually too Mitch and you know what, I won’t care because your’e a fucking enabler.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:50:46pm

re: #426 nines09

John McCain modus operandi; Every once in awhile grandpa snaps to consciousness, says something that seems cognitive, and then he’s gone again.

He rememebrs he has something of a conscience then he remembers his party comes first see, siding with the people who implied he had an illegitimate child over a personal friend and being silent when said friend’s war record was trashed. McCain may have been a hero in Vietnam but as a politician, he’s a useless hack.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:53:32pm

Right wingers now attacking me on Twitter for “fake news,” because the White House denied Miller has a Twitter account.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:54:45pm

re: #431 Charles Johnson

Right wingers now attacking me on Twitter for “fake news,” because the White House denied Miller has a Twitter account.

Because this WH is so truthful.

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Citizen K  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:55:32pm

re: #416 goddamnedfrank

This is absolutely unconscionable. The chilling effect simply can’t be overstated, this is going to make people less willing to cooperate with the police, whether it be to report a crime, or to find sanctuary from an abuser, and giving perpetrators a massive Damocles Sword over their heads because of the threat of being rounded up right outside the goddamn police department. This helps no one but the monsters.

But hey, it’s ok, these people are ILLEGUUULLZ!, right? Not like they’re actually people like ‘real’ Americans, right?

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TedStriker  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:56:22pm

re: #397 austin_blue

You’d be surprised. Our Elint capacities are pretty vast. Russian capabilities are still pretty half-vast.

😎

I saw what you did there…

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:57:32pm

re: #416 goddamnedfrank

And with that I’m taking a break for the night. I do not want my anger addiction back.

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TedStriker  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:57:42pm

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

Whoops!

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:59:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:00:39pm

re: #437 Birth Control Works

I consider myself warned *yawn*:

Pat Robertson: People Who Oppose Trump Are Revolting Against God

Yawn Pat, don’t you have a wife to leave over her losing her memory? That would be a blessing though because I wouldn’t want to remember being married to such a pathetic douchebag piece of shit like yourself either.

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TedStriker  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:01:06pm

re: #437 Birth Control Works

I consider myself warned *yawn*:

Pat Robertson: People Who Oppose Trump Are Revolting Against God

Meanwhile, Pat, you’re *just* revolting; you stink on ice!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:02:02pm

re: #439 TedStriker

Meanwhile, Pat, you’re *just* revolting; you stink on ice!

I’m honestly hard pressed to think of anything legitimately good Pat Robertson has done in his life.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:03:28pm

re: #416 goddamnedfrank

Holy shit! ICE now literally enabling domestic abuse.

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That ICE employee should know full well that the US welcomes such people to work with them to arrest and prosecute the abuser. The victim is protected and put on a track to citizenship —that is the deal. IT’S VERY IMPORTANT because those that bring (mostly) women into this country are often abusers/rapists.

They threaten the women with their kids —“do as I say, don’t tell, whatever OR I’ll send you back to mexico and keep the kids”

These (mostly) women do not often know the language, do not know they have rights, and live horrible lives.

The old world customs of many hispanics are very real—men will go South of the border specifically to find a cowering women who will literally spoon feed them at mealtime.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:25:01pm

re: #431 Charles Johnson

Right wingers now attacking me on Twitter for “fake news,” because the White House denied Miller has a Twitter account.

For some reason I thought @redsteeze was Stephen Miller’s Twitter account but now I see it’s a different guy with the same name, although more similar to each other than you to the rage furbie להבדיל

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:25:38pm

Editorial pages are starting to line up in demanding a full Congressional investigation of Donald Trump’s ties to the Kremlin and Vladimir Putin.

From the Dallas Morning News - very conservative newspaper who have been vocal in their post-election support of Trump:

Trump’s Russia problem imperils his presidency, and undermines faith in America

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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:41:25pm

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

Trump needs adulation to function. He’s not getting much of that as president, so he’s “campaigning” to suck up the frenzied energy from his addle-pated fans.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:46:50pm

re: #347 wrenchwench

Not again….
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:51:29pm

re: #372 BigPapa

Obviously fake, but does have a certain je ne sais quois to it….

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:54:24pm

re: #381 austin_blue

Groton is home port to swarmers (hunter/killers) not boomers (ICBM/Cruise Missile subs). Which is odd.

It’s not odd at all-getting any intel about the hunter/killers would help with the Russian boomers should shit get real….

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:11:30pm

re: #408 goddamnedfrank

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The entire fucking 2016 campaign, from soup to nuts, was a Russian intel operation designed to destroy the most qualified and capable presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

Worse, Tony Podesta worked with Yanukovich too. They’re everywhere!//

Working on behalf of the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, the Podesta Group lobbied in Washington for positions favored by the pro-Russian political party, of which deposed former President Viktor Yanukovych was a member. The lobbying work ended in 2014 after Yanukovych fled Ukraine for Russia, where he remains in exile.


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