Aimee Mann With Jonathan Coulton: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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Bob Boilen | May 8, 2017 — “This song is called ‘You Never Loved Me’ — it’s another cheery, optimistic number,” says Aimee Mann, introducing the second of four songs in this Tiny Desk Concert. She has been writing songs on the human condition — more often than not with a strong sense of humor to underpin the inevitable melancholy — as far back as the ’80s, when she was the singer and bassist in Boston’s The Young Snakes. Mann’s newest solo record, the first in five years, is baldly called Mental Illness — clearly, there’s a deep honesty within these songs. (Also: This is Aimee Mann’s Tiny return, so if you’re loving this, take a look at her performance with Ted Leo in their duo called The Both.)

Mental Illness is available now:
iTunes: itunes.apple.com
Amazon: amazon.com

Set List
“Rollercoasters”
“You Never Loved Me”
“Goose Snow Cone”
“Patient Zero”

Musicians
Aimee Mann (vocals, guitar); Jonathan Coulton (guitar, vocals); Paul Bryan (bass, vocals); Jamie Edwards (piano, vocals)

Credits
Producers: Bob Boilen, Niki Walker; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Niki Walker, Morgan Noelle Smith, Bronson Arcuri; Production Assistant: A Noah Harrison; Photo: Marian Carrasquero/NPR.

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The Major  May 15, 2017 • 9:41:25pm

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 9:44:35pm

Thank you for the music video, Mr. Johnson. I am amazed at how you continue to find interesting and talented performers to entertain those of us with limited exposure to such music (and for those who are very exposed - wait, that doesn’t sound right… .)

LOL

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FormerDirtDart  May 15, 2017 • 9:48:37pm

The conspiracy is more far ranging than anyone could have possibly imagined…
OK, maybe Alex Jones could have imagined it…

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 9:50:37pm

re: #1 Eric The Fruit Bat

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The Major  May 15, 2017 • 9:57:23pm

re: #4 Anymouse

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 9:58:27pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart

The conspiracy is more far ranging than anyone could have possibly imagined…
OK, maybe Alex Jones could have imagined it…

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Perhaps this is the secret information Sergey Kislyak and Donald Trump exchanged: Mr. Kislyak was actually giving intelligence to the US government on the growing international bee heist crime ring.

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austin_blue  May 15, 2017 • 9:59:29pm

If today’s news doesn’t make the R’s in the Senate woke, I don’t know what will.

(What did the President know and when did he know it?)

Calling the ghost of Howard Baker! Save us!

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 10:01:59pm

re: #5 Eric The Fruit Bat

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 10:03:14pm

re: #7 austin_blue

If today’s news doesn’t make the R’s in the Senate woke, I don’t know what will.

(What did the President know and when did he know it?)

Calling the ghost of Howard Baker! Save us!

Nothing will. They’re already seizing on McMaster’s bullshit diversionary denial of something that the WAPO article specifically did not allege as proof that the story is “fake news.” Nevermind the number of publications that have corroborated it through their own sources and reporting. Nevermind that the GOP lawmakers can confirm the allegations on their own via the Oversight committees. They’re going to try to sweep this under the rug because nothing matters anymore.

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Kragar  May 15, 2017 • 10:03:15pm
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Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 10:04:29pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

Nothing will. They’re already seizing on McMaster’s bullshit diversionary denial of something that the WAPO article specifically did not allege as proof that the story is “fake news.” Nevermind the number of publications that have corroborated it through their own sources and reporting. Nevermind that the GOP lawmakers can confirm the allegations on their own via the Oversight committees. They’re going to try to sweep this under the rug because nothing matters anymore.

And like I said downstairs, when that fails, they’ll go to their fallback of the last four months: “WHO’S LEAKING TO THE PRESS?! LOCK’EM UP!!!”

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Kragar  May 15, 2017 • 10:06:50pm
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Jason Munro  May 15, 2017 • 10:11:28pm

re: #10 Kragar

It’s been a long time, thanks for posting that! Great soundtrack on the series by “The Pillows”:

en.wikipedia.org

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Kragar  May 15, 2017 • 10:11:56pm

re: #12 Kragar

Flashing the tweets about reports from the WH makes it even more hillarious

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 10:13:09pm

Ana Navarro puzzles me. She continually drags the Republican Party, yet remains with them. She seems concerned, very concerned much like Senators McCain and Cornyn.

GOP Would’ve Rightly Tried to Impeach Clinton for Classified Document Disclosure (goes to The Hill):

GOP strategist Ana Navarro said Monday Republicans would be attempting to impeach Hillary Clinton immediately if they discovered she shared classified information with a Russian official.

Navarro, a vocal Trump critic, seemed to point at an alternate reality if Clinton had won the election instead of Donald Trump.

If Hillary Clinton leaked classified info to a Russian spook/diplomat, Republicans would rightly be drafting Articles of Impeachment N-O-W.
— Ana Navarro (@ananavarro) May 15, 2017

Navarro’s tweet came shortly after the Washington Post reported Monday evening that Trump shared highly classified information about the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) with top Russian diplomats in a meeting last week, a charge multiple White House officials have denied.

(more at the link)

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Kragar  May 15, 2017 • 10:14:05pm

re: #13 Jason Munro

And I just learned they’re making a sequel and are bringing the Pillows back to do the soundtrack.

The Pillows - Crazy Sunshine

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 10:16:32pm

re: #15 Anymouse

Ana Navarro puzzles me. She continually drags the Republican Party, yet remains with them. She seems concerned, very concerned much like Senators McCain and Cornyn.

GOP Would’ve Rightly Tried to Impeach Clinton for Classified Document Disclosure (goes to The Hill):

(more at the link)

That was my thought earlier, if this story had broken under a Clinton administration, the GOP would have immediately called a late-night session to “debate” Congress’ options in light of the news.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 10:18:15pm

I think the hamsters at Jim Robinson’s House of Iniquity may have dropped dead, as I can’t connect at all. Or the server’s getting fraked from so many angles that it can’t load at a speed faster than geologic.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 10:20:47pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 15, 2017 • 10:21:57pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

Maybe it’s just my end, but it’s taking an awful

That was my thought earlier, if this story had broken under a Clinton administration, the GOP would have immediately called a late-night session to “debate” Congress’ options in light of the news.

Honestly, if this had happened with Clinton as President and a DEMOCRATIC Congress, there’d be a late night session to debate options.

Much as the whole Bill Clinton blowjob debacle was a GOP partisan show, there were few Democrats who didn’t step forward to say something bad about him.

Now? Jesus Christ Almighty, the GOP are bending over and asking for more! I mean, there are apparently a number of them who KNOW this happened, who can’t pretend it’s all bullshit. And they’re letting it go, for strictly partisan reasons.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 10:23:01pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 10:25:07pm

re: #21 Anymouse

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That’s not a defense because he doesn’t have the authority to declassify info that comes from a foreign government. We went over this last year, foreign intel is shared us in confidence and when you break that confidence, it makes foreign intel organizations hesitant to share with us in the future.

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2017 • 10:33:31pm

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 15, 2017 • 10:34:22pm

Hypocrisy is never, ever going to register.

Just as they don’t operate on the same standard of “truth” as other people, they don’t have a any meaningful standard of conduct. If you’re on-side, you’re slotted into a power hierarchy where you can get away with more and more horrible shit the higher you rise.

They are precisely enacting C S Lewis’s description of people that want to cast their enemies as “darker than black”—Satanic baby-killers, as Fred Clark puts it—to excuse their own immorality.

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Kragar  May 15, 2017 • 10:35:38pm
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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 10:36:39pm

Over on the right-wing blogs (I went there so you don’t have to): Free (fascist) Republic is down. Twitchy is blowing off the Washington Post report as though it’s nothing. Buried down the page, RedState has Rexxon Tillerson’s statement that Mr. Trump shared nothing with the Russians. (Tillerson, Secretary of State, winner of the Russian Order of Friendship Medal.) Barbwire is bellyaching about humanists being of the devil. GOPUSA is covering everything but what’s going on now, and their top article claims Democrats are praising Senator John McCain (R-Ariz).

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 10:37:22pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

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piratedan  May 15, 2017 • 10:37:44pm

re: #10 Kragar

well it certainly has one of the best anime theme songs evah with The Pillows -
Ride on Shooting Star
, but that’s just my humble opinion

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2017 • 10:38:51pm

re: #27 Anymouse

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 10:52:57pm

Lyndon LaRouche is going further into wingnut-ville with claims that “this is exactly what Obama would do”

Yeah, I ain’t linking to any of his Websites here, and I am going to disinfect my router.

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 10:55:25pm
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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 11:00:27pm

Not quite in agreement with this woman on Twitter, because not all politicians are craven, any more than all Millenials are self-absorbed or Baby Boomers are greedy or Silent Generation are all, well, silent.

Still, I get the outrage:

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 11:02:20pm
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teleskiguy  May 15, 2017 • 11:07:57pm

Reading through the comments on Charles’ Why I Parted Ways With The Right post.

Jeezum Crow! You could cut the tension with a knife!

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wheat-dogg  May 15, 2017 • 11:09:47pm

Remember I was saying yesterday or day before that a lot of Chinese computer systems still run Win XP? Well, here ya go.

sixthtone.com

According to software company Qihoo 360, WannaCry hit tens of thousands of computers in China, with mainland users discovering their machines were no less vulnerable to a cyberattack than those across the globe. The malicious “ransomware” locks users out of their own systems, forcing them to pay a fine in order to regain access.

Among the 29,000 individual computers crippled by the virus over the weekend, nearly 15 percent were from universities, making on-campus users the hardest-hit demographic, said Sun Xiaojun, a product manager at Qihoo 360. Apart from university networks, the virus also spread through businesses and government institutions, he said.

The article notes that many systems in China are not updated regularly, but fails to note that many run pirated versions of Windows, and so cannot be updated easily — if at all. My university, at least, has replaced most of its older desktops with Win 7 machines, or upgraded them from XP, and the network admins seem quite capable of keeping the school intranet secure. So, no one I know here has been affected by the ransomware.

But, to play it safe, I’ve backed up my files to my cloud service and i avoid clicking on links in emails — even ones from people on my mail list.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 11:12:22pm

Top of Drudge Report:

Dead DNC Staffer Had Contacts with Wikileaks.

The right wing blogging sites are all going out of their ways to avoid any mention of this. Unless someone wanders into a “fake news” site (like real news sites, or left-leaning blogs) they aren’t going to hear about this at all.

Over at the Libertarian stuff, Reason is out there with a “the left is coming for your gardens.”

Over at the Libertarian blog aggregator
libertarian.zebby.org
none of the hundred or so blogs are mentioning this at all.

So folks there that don’t wander into real news sites or left-leaning blogs won’t see it either.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 11:15:04pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

Reading through the comments on Charles’ Why I Parted Ways With The Right post.

Jeezum Crow! You could cut the tension with a knife!

Aside from the flouncers and people who Mr. Johnson banned in that post, they were at each other’s throats.

While there is the occasional argument here (and I have contributed my share), it is much calmer than that post.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 11:20:14pm

Lots of people in that old post mention things like “The Republican Party left me, not the other way round.”

My wife used to make that argument. (She first voted for Ronald Reagan in 1984, eventually became a Libertarian, and is now a Democrat.) In some of our political arguments I’ve noted that the GOP has always been this way, it just hasn’t been in your face like it is now.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 11:22:28pm

re: #36 Anymouse

Top of Drudge Report:

Dead DNC Staffer Had Contacts with Wikileaks.

The right wing blogging sites are all going out of their ways to avoid any mention of this. Unless someone wanders into a “fake news” site (like real news sites, or left-leaning blogs) they aren’t going to hear about this at all.

Over at the Libertarian stuff, Reason is out there with a “the left is coming for your gardens.”

Over at the Libertarian blog aggregator
libertarian.zebby.org
none of the hundred or so blogs are mentioning this at all.

So folks there that don’t wander into real news sites or left-leaning blogs won’t see it either.

They’re getting their ducks in a row. By the time F&F starts in a few hours, they’ll have settled on their talking points and that’ll be the jumping off point. But the initial wingnut tactic is the usual: Question the source. Of course, multiple news agencies have since confirmed their own inside sources are saying the same thing, but the focus is on WaPo and claiming that they’re either fabricating the story or their sources are lying to them. Why? Because Tillerson and McMaster claim that it’s a false story. Of course, the White House also claimed that the stories about Flynn were fabrications and he had Trump’s “full confidence.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 15, 2017 • 11:31:26pm

re: #32 Anymouse

You do know who that woman is right?

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 11:31:31pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

I don’t run into many wingers, but several I have run into are still insisting that Michael Flynn got railroaded.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 11:32:24pm

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

You do know who that woman is right?

No, I don’t. Who is she (besides a very important person with a blue tick by her name /s)

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 11:32:35pm

re: #41 Anymouse

I don’t run into many wingers, but several I have run into are still insisting that Michael Flynn got railroaded.

Oh, of course. “There’s nothing illegal about talking to Russians! He did nothing wrong! Trump didn’t have to fire him!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 15, 2017 • 11:34:02pm

re: #42 Anymouse

No, I don’t. Who is she (besides a very important person with a blue tick by her name /s)

She is an actress, well known for playing Deanna Troi on Star Trek The Next Generation. If I am not mistaken she has always been somewhat politically outspoken.

More on her here.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 11:36:44pm

Adam Silverman over at BJ posits a plausible scenario: Since the Russians had TASS in the room during the meeting, odds are they have a tape and that would mean that the Russians have potential blackmail material against anybody who was a party to that meeting. So when IC learned what had occurred, they took the calculated risk that leaking to the US media was better than letting the Russians have leverage.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 11:37:03pm

re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg

She is an actress, well known for playing Deanna Troi on Star Trek The Next Generation. If I am not mistaken she has always been somewhat politically outspoken.

Really? [Looks at her picture on Twitter] Really? Deanna Troi? Hmmm… . she doesn’t seem to look much like Deanna Troi, but perhaps I just need a new bifocal adjustment.

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wheat-dogg  May 15, 2017 • 11:42:38pm

re: #46 Anymouse

Really? [Looks at her picture on Twitter] Really? Deanna Troi? Hmmm… . she doesn’t seem to look much like Deanna Troi, but perhaps I just need a new bifocal adjustment.

Marina Sirtis is nonetheless the actress who played Deanna Troi. A few years have passed since.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 11:45:30pm

re: #47 wheat-dogg

Marina Sirtis is nonetheless the actress who played Deanna Troi. A few years have passed since.

I’m not ragging on her appearance. Not my place, and personally I think her appearance is just fine.

It’s just that she doesn’t look like the same person. That said, makeup and such for television or films can render quite a difference in an actor’s appearance.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 11:55:51pm

I still don’t get this. Is the GOP that dependent on Trump’s core supporters? They get everything they want with Pence, and someone who could run a halfway sane White House.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 16, 2017 • 12:00:01am

Lubbock’s “Mr. Conservative,” Dr. Donald May, advocates a purge and his Christo-fascist followers respond with bloodthirsty approval.

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Incidentally, Don is a legitimate physician, an internist, though he has been retired for several years.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 12:04:06am

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel

“Marxist propaganda?”

And folk drag me for living in a conservative area.

Besides, I thought it was Steve Bannon that was the avowed Leninist.

Projection from this guy? Fear? Foolishness?

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2017 • 12:04:42am

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel

Lubbock’s “Mr. Conservative,” Dr. Donald May, advocates a purge and his Christo-fascist followers respond with bloodthirsty approval.

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Incidentally, Don is a legitimate physician, an internist, though he has been retired for several years.

The federal government never has controlled education, but to nutjobs Common Care is a communist, one-worlder plot.

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Single-handed sailor  May 16, 2017 • 12:07:23am

re: #52 wheat-dogg

The federal government never has controlled education, but to nutjobs Common Care is a communist, one-worlder plot.

And Common Core is a product of State’s Governors and State’s Superintendents of Schools. Fed is not involved.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 12:10:00am

So after today’s fallout, does Jared go to fix the Middle East tomorrow? /s

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Shiplord Kirel  May 16, 2017 • 12:10:55am

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 12:13:13am

re: #53 Single-handed sailor

And Common Core is a product of State’s Governors and State’s Superintendents of Schools. Fed is not involved.

Over in Wyoming they got into a state constitutional crisis. Wyoming had approved participation in the common core curriculum, then the wingnuts went after the state education secretary and tried to strip her state constitutional powers both in the legislature and by the governor’s executive order.

She wound up suing half the state government to get them out of her job.

And these are all Republicans. No Democrats involved in that crap-fest that played out over the state line from me for a whole year. It would seem if you get a critical mass of conservatives together they fly apart.

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Kragar  May 16, 2017 • 12:17:16am
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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 12:23:57am
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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 12:25:20am
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sagehen  May 16, 2017 • 12:39:28am

re: #58 Anymouse

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Bloomberg didn’t warn about Trump/Russia, but he was quite emphatic in his warnings about Trump/Insane, Trump/Liar, Trump/Grifter, Trump/Incompetent and Trump/Idiot.

For people who think wealth=intelligence, you’d think they’d have listened to the 5th richest man in America (entirely self-made, inherited nothing). Who basically said all the same things about Trump as did the 2nd richest man in America (also entirely self-made, inherited nothing.)

Watch Michael Bloomberg’s full speech at the 2016 Democratic National Convention

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 12:44:01am

re: #60 sagehen

Yup, Warren Buffett laid into Trump during the campaign as well.
secure.marketwatch.com

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2017 • 12:48:40am

re: #57 Kragar

If Trump is actually Merlin, we are doomed.

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2017 • 12:50:33am

re: #53 Single-handed sailor

And Common Core is a product of State’s Governors and State’s Superintendents of Schools. Fed is not involved.

Oddly, they didn’t seem as worked up about No Child Left Behind, which was federal legislation.

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sagehen  May 16, 2017 • 12:55:11am
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Kragar  May 16, 2017 • 12:56:28am

re: #62 wheat-dogg

If Trump is actually Merlin, we are doomed.

He’s more of a Merl, Merlin’s senile, coked up loser brother.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 1:00:20am

I’m thinking its booze o’clock now. Either this dooms the administration, or us. So I am either celebrating, or anaesthetising.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 1:02:44am

A comment over at Wonkette in response to something I posted about LGF:

UnsaltedSinner • 7 minutes ago

I really feel for the good Charles Johnson, who has to endure people mistaking him for that lying ginger turd.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 1:21:00am

lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com

Lawyers, Guns, and Money tries to disassemble the idea that all the right-wingers who voted for Trump (or Republicans in general) are some sort of monolithic block.

It is a long blog post, but pretty much hits every conservative idea I’ve heard all my voting life. And when you combine them all together, you get someone like Trump.

One example in the post (but there are more) is about rural Oregon:

“We pay enough taxes,” said Zach Holly, an auto repair worker in a shop a few blocks from the library who said his vote against the tax was not about libraries at all, but government waste. “I vote against taxes, across the board,” he said.

An instinctive reaction against higher taxes has been stitched into the fabric of America in recent decades, starting with the property tax revolts of the 1970s through the anti-tax orthodoxy expressed by many conservative members of Congress today. But few places in the nation are seeing the tangled implications of what that means — in real time — more vividly than in southwest Oregon, where a handful of rural counties are showing what happens when citizens push the logic of shrinking government to its extremes.

“The trust is gone from people who are paying the bills,” said Court Boice, a commissioner in Curry County, which borders Douglas. At least four property tax proposals aimed at keeping county services afloat, like the library rescue plan in Douglas, have failed in Curry County over the last decade.

Just east of Curry in Josephine County, the jail has been defunded after nine consecutive defeats of public safety tax levies — there will be another try next week in a special election — leading to a policy of catch-and-release for nonviolent criminals.

Demographic and economic changes in this swath of the Pacific Northwest, where thick forests brush down to the rocky Pacific Coast, have given the tax resistance movement its backbone. Retirees who came in recent years for the low housing costs or the conservative political culture have become a major voting bloc. And the tech jobs that are fueling growth in Portland, a three-hour drive north, are mostly just a dream.

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Amory Blaine  May 16, 2017 • 2:14:58am

Is it wrong to use a porta-potty as a shed?

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 2:23:58am

re: #69 Amory Blaine

Is it wrong to use a porta-potty as a shed?

Things I’ve never thought of: Using a porta-potty as a shed, and sending strippers to my neigbours’ home to harass them.
Omaha Man Accused of Sending Strippers to Neighbours’ Home (shameless page promotion)

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 2:45:27am

This Seth Rich-Wikileaks conspiracy theory is being actively promoted by Fox. The private investigator is supposed to reveal his “report” on Fox News today and the owned and operated Fox affiliate here in DC is actively promoting it. No mention was made of Rich’s family’s, who have publicly and repeatedly dismissed the conspiracy theory, position on the PI’s report. No claim that the PI, who spoke on camera, was speaking for the family either.

The PI is making claims as to what is on Rich’s computer despite not having any access to it. In fact, he doesn’t even known if it’s the DCMPD or the FBI who has the computer as evidence, but he’s out there, stating as a fact, that there are contents linking Rich to Wikileaks.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 2:53:14am

re: #71 Timothy Watson

Since when has FOX needed liberally-biased information like “evidence?”

Local FOX stations may not have their national “pundits” like Hannity on their stations, but they don’t exactly report the news straight, either.

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 2:55:33am

re: #72 Anymouse

Since when has FOX needed liberally-biased information like “evidence?”

Local FOX stations may not have their national “pundits” like Hannity on their stations, but they don’t exactly report the news straight, either.

And people have written about how the DC affiliate gets it marching orders from Fox News all the time. One of the affiliate guys is such an obnoxious wingnut toolbag that I keep joking that he’s preparing his highlight reel for when he tries to get a job at Fox News.

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Apocalypse  May 16, 2017 • 2:55:38am

re: #71 Timothy Watson

The PI is making claims as to what is on Rich’s computer despite not having any access to it.

The “story” is deflection for current events, not a piece that will stand up to scrutiny.

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2017 • 3:00:41am
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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 3:03:03am

re: #74 Apocalypse

The “story” is deflection for current events, not a piece that will stand up to scrutiny.

My perusal of the wingnut blogs just now still shows them reporting on everything under the sun except yesterday’s blast-ex from the Washington Post and other outlets.

FOX News’s main Webpage has as its lead an article claiming North Korea is the source of the ransomware attack.

(The idea that North Korea would put ransomware on people’s computers might be plausible, but I don’t see the DPRK dealing in Bitcoin. With Mr. Trump’s recent rhetoric against the DPRK recently, that could also be the starting point for FOX to claim North Korea engaged in an act of war - send in the troops.)

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Apocalypse  May 16, 2017 • 3:04:40am

Only because: Someone being given incorrect info on a Fox Affiliate and goes with it as a joke.

YouTube

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Apocalypse  May 16, 2017 • 3:07:01am

re: #76 Anymouse

Is it that stark that even posting about it to deny it (the “Fake News!” shtick), would raise questions among them?

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 3:10:17am

re: #77 Apocalypse

Only because: Someone being given incorrect info on a Fox Affiliate and goes with it as a joke.

[Embedded content]

Video

Volcano/Godzilla weather forecast, with tidal waves and a massive hurricane:

Extreme Weather Forecast, taped June 25, 2011

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Apocalypse  May 16, 2017 • 3:14:23am

re: #79 Anymouse

Wasn’t expecting the Coyote bit.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 3:16:01am

Alice Cooper reporting the weather on an Australian station (making a hoot of it):

Alice Cooper weather update - ROVE (Australia)

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 3:47:34am

re: #79 Anymouse

Volcano/Godzilla weather forecast, with tidal waves and a massive hurricane:

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Good ol’ WTVR.

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freetoken  May 16, 2017 • 3:51:35am

Because they are all hard of hearing, no doubt…

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2017 • 4:02:57am

Interesting interview of three North Korean defectors about America and about Trump. This is part 2 of 2. Check out part 1 as well, but their comments beginning around 5:00 about Trump and Kim Jong Un are in part 2, beginning around 5:00. Basically, they figure Kim and Trump are so volatile, war could break out at a moment’s notice.

What North Koreans Think of America and Donald Trump (Part 2) | ASIAN BOSS

Part 1 covers the indoctrination of North Koreans to believe all Americans are out to kill them.

What North Koreans Think Of America and Donald Trump (Part 1) | ASIAN BOSS

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 4:04:15am

Jim Wright is awake …

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DuckDharma  May 16, 2017 • 4:30:06am

Ha ha ha. Every.Fucking.Time

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2017 • 4:34:07am

re: #86 DuckDharma

Ha ha ha. Every.Fucking.Time

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He really can’t help himself. It’s both sad and encouraging to see. Trump will end up squealing on himself.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 4:49:01am

Conservatives are embarrassingly and proudly defending Drump’s actions. WTF happened to this country?!

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freetoken  May 16, 2017 • 4:49:52am

re: #88 Dr. Matt

WTF happened to this country?!

The ignorant got aggravated with all the smart people running things.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 4:53:24am

re: #89 freetoken

The ignorant got aggravated with all the smart people running things.

I was reading that old article where Mr. Johnson said he was cutting ties with the wingnut right wing (which is not the same as saying he was throwing in with the moonbats on the left).

Your comments there seemed to be a voice of reason in that comment thread.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 4:55:18am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 4:57:27am

I don’t post much at my own blog anymore, but just for old time’s sake I checked the mailbox and found this fan mail:

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 4:59:28am

I’m guessing that Mr. Trump saying this means he won’t do it anyway.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 5:01:07am

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t post much at my own blog anymore, but just for old time’s sake I checked the mailbox and found this fan mail:

I’d be interested in your blog, and you should post more. So there phtttt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 5:05:40am

re: #64 sagehen

For real how the fuck has Trump even managed to live this long without accidentally bathing with his toaster or some shit

because his staff know to hide the toaster at bath time…

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 5:09:33am

An interesting line from that E-mail screed Vicious Babushka wrote:

If you knew anything about Islamic countries in Africa, you would know that over 90% of the women have had their genitalia mutilated. Their clitoris is cut out, their inner labia cut off, and the outer labia sewn together leaving a hole no bigger than their anus.

Fun fact: Countries such as Ethiopia and Eritrea (overwhelmingly Christian) are the most egregious practitioners. Somehow, that gets translated to “Muslims FGM!!!!”

Funny how conservatives give Christians a pass on this abhorrent practice. It’s almost as if they have an axe to grind with Islam.

Plus the concern trolling about Islam always grates on me. They could give a hoot less about Muslim women unless it fits their conservative narrative: Why aren’t liberals focused on (name a foreign Muslim country issue) instead of the not as bad as issue in the USA?

It’s not as if liberals can only address one issue at a time… .

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 5:11:16am

The “you deserve to die because I disagree with you” line at the end was nice, too:

They should make it legal to put a bullet in the skull of morons like
yourself so we can eliminate stupidity.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 5:12:05am

re: #96 Anymouse

It’s not as if liberals can only address one issue at a time… .

Because wingnuts are incapable of multi tasking, they think liberals can’t either.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 5:12:59am

The way that guy described FGM in such intimate detail makes me wonder if he gets hard thinking about women being tortured.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 5:17:14am

‘NO LEAKS. NO LEAKS. YOUR THE LEAKER!!!”

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 5:17:53am

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

The way that guy described FGM in such intimate detail makes me wonder if he gets hard thinking about women being tortured.

Either that or he’s fairly-well versed in the dark art of copypasta.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 5:18:05am

re: #96 Anymouse

An interesting line from that E-mail screed Vicious Babushka wrote:

Fun fact: Countries such as Ethiopia and Eritrea (overwhelmingly Christian) are the most egregious practitioners. Somehow, that gets translated to “Muslims FGM!!!!”

Funny how conservatives give Christians a pass on this abhorrent practice. It’s almost as if they have an axe to grind with Islam.

Plus the concern trolling about Islam always grates on me. They could give a hoot less about Muslim women unless it fits their conservative narrative: Why aren’t liberals focused on (name a foreign Muslim country issue) instead of the not as bad as issue in the USA?

It’s not as if liberals can only address one issue at a time… .

Which shows that it is a matter of culture as it is religion. The two are related, but not identical.

And again: the Clash of Cultures is not Christianity vs Islam, it is Progressivism vs Fundamentalism.

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Joe Bacon  May 16, 2017 • 5:18:27am

re: #18 Targetpractice

I think the hamsters at Jim Robinson’s House of Iniquity may have dropped dead, as I can’t connect at all. Or the server’s getting fraked from so many angles that it can’t load at a speed faster than geologic.

Rim Job having equipment problems at Freak RepubliKKK?

Boo F’n Hoo!

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John Carter  May 16, 2017 • 5:24:44am

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

‘NO LEAKS. NO LEAKS. YOUR THE LEAKER!!!”

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Someone get him a mirror.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 5:28:20am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which shows that it is a matter of culture as it is religion. The two are related, but not identical.

And again: the Clash of Cultures is not Christianity vs Islam, it is Progressivism vs Fundamentalism.

Thus it has been always. William F. Buckley, Jr. addressed this as “a conservative is a person standing athwart history yelling ‘Stop!’”

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

‘NO LEAKS. NO LEAKS. YOUR THE LEAKER!!!”

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And again, they’d rather go after the person who leaked the information (if it wasn’t one of the TASS folk Trump invited himself) rather than the substance of the leaks.

Expect this to become a wingnut talking point.

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Joe Bacon  May 16, 2017 • 5:31:33am

re: #63 wheat-dogg

Oddly, they didn’t seem as worked up about No Child Left Behind, which was federal legislation.

That law was enacted during Dumbya’s reign so Republicans just fell in line like the good Communist apparatchiks that they are. But those same Republicans will tell you Gawdless Obama wanted to indoctrinate kids under Common Core…

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 5:32:33am

re: #18 Targetpractice

I think the hamsters at Jim Robinson’s House of Iniquity may have dropped dead, as I can’t connect at all. Or the server’s getting fraked from so many angles that it can’t load at a speed faster than geologic.

If Jim Robinson is the person who runs Free Republic, they were holding a fundraiser recently. Perhaps they didn’t raise enough funds to pay the bills (wingnut welfare apparently has its limits).

Over on their Facebook page there is a comment just posted claiming the DNC computer hack was an inside job by the Democrats. I see they are grounded in reality and sober, fact-based analysis as always… .

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 5:32:37am

re: #96 Anymouse

An interesting line from that E-mail screed Vicious Babushka wrote:

Fun fact: Countries such as Ethiopia and Eritrea (overwhelmingly Christian) are the most egregious practitioners. Somehow, that gets translated to “Muslims FGM!!!!”

Funny how conservatives give Christians a pass on this abhorrent practice. It’s almost as if they have an axe to grind with Islam.

Plus the concern trolling about Islam always grates on me. They could give a hoot less about Muslim women unless it fits their conservative narrative: Why aren’t liberals focused on (name a foreign Muslim country issue) instead of the not as bad as issue in the USA?

It’s not as if liberals can only address one issue at a time… .

Just like how Muslims get blamed for honor killings when a notable number have been Yazidi families.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 5:33:24am

re: #106 Joe Bacon

That law was enacted during Dumbya’s reign so Republicans just fell in line like the good Communist apparatchiks that they are. But those same Republicans will tell you Gawdless Obama wanted to indoctrinate kids under Common Core…

and take over the nation during Jade Helm

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 5:37:14am

As a friend of mine on Facebook said: “Tonight Corey Stewart denounced everyone EXCEPT white nationalists. Disgusting.”

Anti-establishment Republican Corey Stewart denounced lots of people, places and things Monday night, but maintained his silence over the recent white nationalist rally in Charlottesville that every other candidate in Virginia’s governor’s race has condemned.

In a Facebook live event billed as Stewart’s first comment on Saturday’s torch-lit rally around a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee, Stewart did not directly mention Richard Spencer or other “alt-right” figures involved in the white-pride event.

He did, however, condemn Charlottesville City Council member Wes Bellamy, an African-American who voted for the statue’s pending removal.

richmond.com

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Joe Bacon  May 16, 2017 • 5:38:16am

re: #88 Dr. Matt

Conservatives are embarrassingly and proudly defending Drump’s actions. WTF happened to this country?!

It’s the end result of 40 years of the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine brainwashing millions of people…

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 5:38:29am

theconservativetreehouse (dot) com/2017/05/15/washington-post-creates-fake-news-timed-release-story-intended-to-capture-evening-news-lede/

Hoo boy:

Washington Post Creates Fake News Timed-Release Story Intended to Capture Evening News Lede…
Posted on May 15, 2017 by sundance

Always remember the basic rule that has been proven accurate 100% of the time:

When the CIA wants to leak a damaging story they coordinate with the Washington Post and ABC. (and vice-versa).
When the State Dept. or FBI/DOJ wants to leak a damaging story they coordinate with CNN and the New York Times. (and vice-versa)

This consistent pattern has NEVER been broken.

Tonight using “unnamed” and the most vague descriptions of “anonymous sources” The Washington Post creates a fake news story specifically timed to release at the 5pm hour to hit President Donald Trump.

I wasn’t aware that CNN/the New York Times/ABC were the propaganda outlet of the CIA.

The rest of that comment thread gets worse: these folk really are unmoored from reality.

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Apocalypse  May 16, 2017 • 5:39:53am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and take over the nation during Jade Helm

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Covered due to people eating breakfast.

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Joe Bacon  May 16, 2017 • 5:40:53am

re: #64 sagehen

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He’s too busy filling the tub with his rubber duckies!

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 5:41:56am

re: #113 Apocalypse

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Covered due to people eating breakfast.

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freetoken  May 16, 2017 • 5:41:58am

Dawn breaks… and the chickens leave the roost:

Turkey Barn at Farm Sanctuary powered by EXPLORE.org

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freetoken  May 16, 2017 • 5:43:31am

That’s a rather idyllic scene - farm, flowering trees, fluffy chickens, green green grass in the background, red barn…

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 5:44:13am

More from Conservative Treehouse (I thought treehouses were mostly for child’s play, but okay):

Transparent Media Agenda:

First indication is the timing of the Washington Post news release (5:02pm EDT).
Second indication coordination with NYT for immediate follow (6:26pm EDT)
Third indication - Same exact pattern as Flynn intelligence leaks. Identical timing.
Fourth indication - Same use of entirely anonymous sources: “former American government official” ie. an Obama official.
Only 3 U.S. Officials actually in the room with first-hand information: National Security Advisor HR McMaster, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Senior Adviser for policy, Dina Powell.
Publication motive/intent - The Washington Post never contacted anyone in the White House for questions, nor did they ask McMaster, Tillerson or Powell for comment before publication. All three call the Post article - fake News.

WH source with direct knowledge just told me @washingtonpost didn’t talk to ANY U.S. official at mtg w/ Lavrov. “It’s Fake News”

— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) May 15, 2017

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freetoken  May 16, 2017 • 5:44:43am

Turkeys have to be the only birds that make chickens look bright.

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Eventual Carrion  May 16, 2017 • 5:46:31am

re: #118 Anymouse

More from Conservative Treehouse (I thought treehouses were mostly for child’s play, but okay):

He-man, women haters club. What’s the password?

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2017 • 5:46:35am

re: #106 Joe Bacon

That law was enacted during Dumbya’s reign so Republicans just fell in line like the good Communist apparatchiks that they are. But those same Republicans will tell you Gawdless Obama wanted to indoctrinate kids under Common Core…

Exactly. NCLB was supposed to make all teachers and schools accountable, like manufacturing QC, so it hit all the correct right-wing buttons. CC, on the other hand, was supposed to encourage critical thinking, teh math skillz, and close analysis of non-fiction reading, which are anathema to right-wingers.

RWNJs are also opposed to IB and the AP US History curricula for similar reasons. Too thinking going on there.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 5:47:14am

re: #119 freetoken

Turkeys have to be the only birds that make chickens look bright.

Turkeys (especially the wild ones) are fairly bright. For a bird, anyway.

I frequently have to slow down on roads around here due to herds (regiments, murders, fleets, some mass noun of turkeys - oh right, flocks) of turkeys in the road.

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freetoken  May 16, 2017 • 5:47:57am

re: #122 Anymouse

All the brains have been bred out of the domesticated ones.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 5:48:57am

re: #110 Timothy Watson

As a friend of mine on Facebook said: “Tonight Corey Stewart denounced everyone EXCEPT white nationalists. Disgusting.”

richmond.com

Stewart is by far the worst Va Republican I’ve seen and we’ve both been here for George Allen, Dick Black, Bob Marshall, Ken Cuccineli, & E.W Jackson.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 5:49:24am

re: #123 freetoken

All the brains have been bred out of the domesticated ones.

Domestic turkeys are pretty much dumb-as-a-post (post libel).

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Teukka  May 16, 2017 • 5:52:25am

Smokin’ fresh (35 min min old news):
Russian citizen arrested after flying drone over parlament building in Sweden
Of course, it could be a silly tourist, but it could as well be a intel operative casing the joint.
It’s restricted airspace.

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Joe Bacon  May 16, 2017 • 5:52:48am
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Joe Bacon  May 16, 2017 • 5:54:22am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

Stewart is by far the worst Va Republican I’ve seen and we’ve both been here for George Allen, Dick Black, Bob Marshall, Ken Cuccineli, & E.W Jackson.

Happy you need to keep your crucifix, wooden stake and vials of holy water handy dealing with those freaks!

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Teukka  May 16, 2017 • 5:55:46am

re: #126 Teukka

Smokin’ fresh (35 min min old news):
Russian citizen arrested after flying drone over parlament building in Sweden
Of course, it could be a silly tourist, but it could as well be a intel operative casing the joint.
It’s restricted airspace.

It’s also one of few places in Sweden where you can get shot without warning if you ignore security.

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 5:56:04am

From David Brooks:

We’ve got this perverse situation in which the vast analytic powers of the entire world are being spent trying to understand a guy whose thoughts are often just six fireflies beeping randomly in a jar.

No love for Brooks, but in the contest to accurately describe Trump, this one is in the running.

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Joe Bacon  May 16, 2017 • 5:57:59am

Atrios nails Pumpkin Pinochet to the wall!

eschatonblog.com

Trump is a senile old man with some sort of degenerative brain condition and he will brag to anybody about anything. This isn’t about Russia, really, it’s about a president of the United States who brags to people that important people visit him in the Oval Office. A president of the United States who brags that he won the election. A president of the United States who tells reporters about how impressed people are with him. A man - not just a man, but the president of the United States of fucking America - who can’t have a conversation without telling someone how impressed other people are with him. He’ll tell anybody anything to impress them with how impressive he is.

Trump has been on my teevee and radio my entire adult life. I was a Howard Stern listener for a long time. Trump was a regular. He was always a horrible narcissistic braggart, but not like this. He has a problem, we have a problem, and despite the fact that his handlers keep telling the press that they have to treat him like a 5 year old, no one will come right out and say the obvious: Trump is in serious mental decline and also he runs the world.

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Teukka  May 16, 2017 • 5:58:35am

re: #130 Belafon

From David Brooks:

No love for Brooks, but in the contest to accurately describe Trump, this one is in the running.

What about “tRump is terrifying, but you cannot deny he is also hilarious. and I don’t know how to deal with that emotionally.” “It feels like theres an asteroid headed toward the earth, but its shaped like a penis” ?

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 5:59:50am

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 6:01:41am

re: #118 Anymouse

WH Anonymous source with direct knowledge just told me @washingtonpost didn’t talk to ANY U.S. official at mtg w/ Lavrov. “It’s Fake News”

— Laura Ingraham

Fxd

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Unshaken Defiance  May 16, 2017 • 6:02:07am

A quote puzzle.

I’ll say we had no choice, but the Trump-haters were right … it’s a nightmare.

Who said this yesterday?

Ann Coulter in one of her rare moments of lucidity and observation.

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Weaselone  May 16, 2017 • 6:02:59am

re: #118 Anymouse

Flynn leaks were ultimately born out, so if this follows that pattern, then these leaks are also true. Also Post did contact McMaster, he just didn’t verify the story. Also McMaster and tillerson denials both fail to dispute the key allegations of the articles.

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 6:03:35am

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 6:04:00am

re: #136 Weaselone

Flynn leaks were ultimately born out, so if this follows that pattern, then these leaks are also true. Also Post did contact McMaster, he just didn’t verify the story. Also McMaster and tillerson denials both fail to dispute the key allegations of the articles.

The story which Trump just confirmed on Twitter.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 6:04:37am

re: #133 Timothy Watson

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 6:05:07am

re: #138 Timothy Watson

The story which Trump just confirmed on Twitter.

Twice in seven days he’s admitted the opposite of what his staff said just hours earlier.

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 6:05:56am

re: #62 wheat-dogg

If Trump is actually Merlin, we are doomed.

He’s actually Father Time, which would explain almost everything.

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 6:06:22am

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

Fascinating person. Would love to subscribe to their newsletter.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 6:06:57am

re: #133 Timothy Watson

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 6:07:22am

re: #136 Weaselone

Flynn leaks were ultimately born out, so if this follows that pattern, then these leaks are also true. Also Post did contact McMaster, he just didn’t verify the story. Also McMaster and tillerson denials both fail to dispute the key allegations of the articles.

We’re aware of that nuance (they didn’t deny the central point of the story but deflected instead), but will non-junkie conservative voters understand the nuance in the denials?

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:08:32am

re: #128 Joe Bacon

Happy you need to keep your crucifix, wooden stake and vials of holy water handy dealing with those freaks!

Heh yeah I should.

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 6:09:21am
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Teukka  May 16, 2017 • 6:09:41am

re: #128 Joe Bacon

Happy you need to keep your crucifix, wooden stake and vials of holy water handy dealing with those freaks!

Check out Constantine’s arsenal in the original motion picture (dunno about the series)…

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 6:10:24am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 6:10:43am

BTW here is the Pamela bus poster spoof that got my correspondent’s panties in a wad:

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 6:17:10am

re: #149 The Vicious Babushka

BTW here is the Pamela bus poster spoof that got my correspondent’s panties in a wad:

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You mean a correspondent on social media? (The sentiment expressed in your meme seems true to me … but who cares what I think)

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 6:18:18am

re: #150 Anymouse

Oh, you mean the person who sent you the death threat in the E-mail and was unhinged for most of his or her screed.

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 6:18:21am
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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 6:19:09am

Paul Ryan’s getting skewered for his July tweet about Hillary right now. Fuck that asshole.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:21:05am

As a historian, I’m loathe to go into the worst superlatives early but Trump is on pace to be the worst president in American history.

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 6:23:25am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

As a historian, I’m loathe to go into the worst superlatives early but Trump is on pace to be the worst president in American history.

Someone should tell him that the only way to fix that is to get out early.

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John Carter  May 16, 2017 • 6:24:23am

re: #135 Unshaken Defiance

A quote puzzle.

Who said this yesterday?

Ann Coulter in one of her rare moments of lucidity and observation.

You have to put that into context. She was frustrated because she didn’t think he was able to fulfill his campaign promises not that he was crazy, just ineffective.

For example the budget negotiations were a failure in her eyes and there is no wall or money for a wall.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 6:24:54am

re: #148 darthstar

I was so wondering why all of a sudden one of my old tweets were getting a lot of action, and then realized, it’s because Ryan’s old tweet has come back to haunt him.

Seems Ryan’s got the same issue as Trump. Everything they said would happen if you voted for Clinton would come to pass. And it has. Trump is violating all the norms and protocols and laws.

He undermined natsec and admitted to giving the Russians intel that they never should have gotten their hands on. Doesn’t matter that he has the ability to declassify intel. He’s screwed our ally who provided that intel, and that makes allies less likely to share intel with us. That undermines our national security going forward so long as anyone relating to the Trump admin is involved.

This increases our vulnerabilities and makes it more difficult to get intel needed to go after IS or other threats - including emerging threats around the world where we don’t necessarily have human assets in place. Trump fucked over the intel community royally, and screwed the nation as a result.

So of course the GOP response is that he’s entitled to declassify intel as he sees fit - ignoring all the rest. They ignore that he undermined natsec. They ignore that he gave this intel at a meeting where the only media present was TASS - no US media was allowed in the room. They ignore that the Trump admin never admitted that Kislyak was in the room; we learned of it via the photo TASS took of the meeting.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 6:25:54am
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jeffreyw  May 16, 2017 • 6:28:05am

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Good morning!

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 6:29:08am
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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 6:29:45am

re: #158 lawhawk

WH/NSC spokesman Mike Anton emphatically denies that Pres Trump’s tweets today confirm disclosure of classified material to Russia.

Anton is the charming chap who compared the 2016 election to Flight 93. Also has tons of fans at VDARE.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 6:30:20am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 6:30:53am

re: #150 Anymouse

You mean a correspondent on social media? (The sentiment expressed in your meme seems true to me … but who cares what I think)

No, the guy who sent the angry email to my blog.

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Jay C  May 16, 2017 • 6:31:40am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

As a historian, I’m loathe to go into the worst superlatives but Trump is on pace to be the worst president in American history.

Somewhere in that Historical White House in the Sky, Franklin Pierce, Andrew Johnson, and Warren Harding are looking down, chuckling, and (no doubt) pouring a generous round or two….

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The Major  May 16, 2017 • 6:32:08am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Historian, eh? Care to comment on this? Curious to get your take so I can calibrate my trust levels…

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 6:33:59am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

As a historian, I’m loathe to go into the worst superlatives early but Trump is on pace to be the worst president in American history.

I think you’re on safe ground here. James Buchanan presided over the Confederacy’s attempt to dissolve the Union. President Buchanan was nearly through his term before that happened; President Trump is only starting out.

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Anymouse  May 16, 2017 • 6:36:11am

Sun is up, time for bed. Catch y’all later.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:37:09am

re: #165 Eric The Fruit Bat

Historian, eh? Care to comment on this? Curious to get your take so I can calibrate my trust levels…

I have a big problem with vouchers for several reasons- A) I think we should be prioritizing building strong public schools, B) I hate the idea of taxpayer money going to private schools whether they be religious based or not, and C) I think private schools neglect children with disabilities- learning and physical.

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Barefoot Grin  May 16, 2017 • 6:37:56am

Guess what Fox is saying about Trump leaking classified to Russia….

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:38:25am

re: #166 Anymouse

I think you’re on safe ground here. James Buchanan presided over the Confederacy’s attempt to dissolve the Union. President Buchanan was nearly through his term before that happened; President Trump is only starting out.

Correct. Plus I think Johnson flawed as he was really thought he was following Lincoln’s legacy.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:39:50am

re: #169 Barefoot Grin

Guess what Fox is saying about Trump leaking classified to Russia….

yesterday they were drooling over his fawning over cops the Monday after he called the nation’s former top cop s grandstander.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 6:40:20am

re: #169 Barefoot Grin

Guess what Fox is saying about Trump leaking classified to Russia….

BUT HER EMAILS!!!!1!!1!!

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:40:30am

re: #164 Jay C

Somewhere in that Historical White House in the Sky, Franklin Pierce, Andrew Johnson, and Warren Harding are looking down, chuckling, and (no doubt) pouring a generous round or two….

Yep.

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 6:41:04am

MN: Which could be nice. If you’re stuck on a plane next to a talker that could be a rough ride.

VV: Gee, I don’t think that’s ever happened to me. I’m the kind of person that thinks everyone on the planet is interesting and I will give you a reason why. Everyone has an unconscious that consists of every memory, every experience, every person they ever met and their entire life is there and you can’t necessarily access it on demand or by choice but you would be amazed how memories from long ago will pop up and there’s a whole little film strip that starts to play with dialogue and costuming and everything that happened long ago, and because everyone is so deep I think that everyone is interesting. It’s a funny way to look at people.

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 6:41:11am

NATO knows Trump can’t be trusted with information.

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2017 • 6:41:25am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 6:41:38am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

yesterday they were drooling over his fawning over cops the Monday after he called the nation’s former top cop s grandstander.

NO ONE RESPECTS OUR FALLEN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS MORE THAN ME!!!! he bellowed as he threw a cheap, Chinese-made MAGA hat at the orphan.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:41:40am

re: #162 lawhawk

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He’s the best president Russia has ever had. Quite a feat since he wasn’t elected in Russia but neither was Putin.

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 6:42:02am

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

No, the guy who sent the angry email to my blog.

o geez

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Barefoot Grin  May 16, 2017 • 6:42:47am

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

BUT HER EMAILS!!!!1!!1!!

ding, ding, ding!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 6:43:00am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

He’s the best president Russia has ever had. Quite a feat since he wasn’t elected in Russia but neither was Putin.

Russia has achieved its aims: we are derailed, haplessly floundering about and ifgiting, while Russia is able to do whatever it wants wherever it wants in the world with only minimal US interference.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:43:21am

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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He doesn’t even care that the meddling kids caught him because he knows nothing is gonna happen to him.

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 6:43:51am
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BlueGrl21  May 16, 2017 • 6:44:05am

The leakers in the intelligence community, the FBI, and the White House are fucking American heroes.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:44:18am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Russia has achieved its aims: we are derailed, haplessly floundering about and ifgiting, while Russia is able to do whatever it wants wherever it wants in the world with only minimal US interference.

Precisely. They did it not out of love for Trump or a honest desire for friendship but to weaken our country.

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2017 • 6:46:20am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

I have a big problem with vouchers for several reasons- A) I think we should be prioritizing building strong public schools, B) I hate the idea of taxpayer money going to private schools whether they be religious based or not, and C) I think private schools neglect children with disabilities- learning and physical.

It’s not exactly neglect. Private schools are under no legal obligation to accept disabled students, or students with behavioral/emotional problems, and most do not have/cannot afford the specialists on staff to deal with such students. Charter schools, which inhabit a murky zone betwixt public and private, can also screen out those students by using some murky qualifications: “we don’t think your child would be a good fit for our school” or some such BS.

OTOH, having spent more than 20 years teaching in a private high school, I can say most decent schools do not neglect their students if the kids are enrolled. I know we had to encourage parents to get their kids assessed for learning disabilities and on occasion substance abuse, but the intent was to keep the student, not kick him/her out.

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 6:47:37am
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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 6:47:42am

re: #184 BlueGrl21

The leakers in the intelligence community, the FBI, and the White House are fucking American heroes.

See, I told you Trump would be good for this country. He’s leaking so they don’t have to!

If Republicans all start spinning in the same direction, our days will either shorten to 15 hours, or lengthen to 30.

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 6:48:24am

re: #184 BlueGrl21

The leakers in the intelligence community, the FBI, and the White House are fucking American heroes.

I’m inclined to believe that yesterday’s leak was the first salvo in the Big Payback for firing Comey. My only question is how many leaks per week will be happening from here on out. I’m all in favor of dropping bad shit about Man-Baby on the daily.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 6:49:57am

NY Times playing BOTH SIDEZ!!!!! so hard right now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 6:50:02am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

I have a big problem with vouchers for several reasons- A) I think we should be prioritizing building strong public schools, B) I hate the idea of taxpayer money going to private schools whether they be religious based or not, and C) I think private schools neglect children with disabilities- learning and physical.

Public schools and private schools are apples and oranges: unless private and church schools are compelled to take all children who apply and are only allowed to expel them if they present an extreme and egregious threat to the well-being of other students, then they cannot begin to be compared to public schools, especially in terms of overall performance.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:52:23am

re: #186 wheat-dogg

It’s not exactly neglect. Private schools are under no legal obligation to accept disabled students, or students with behavioral/emotional problems, and most do not have/cannot afford the specialists on staff to deal with such students. Charter schools, which inhabit a murky zone betwixt public and private, can also screen out those students by using some murky qualifications: “we don’t think your child would be a good fit for our school” or some such BS.

OTOH, having spent more than 20 years teaching in a private high school, I can say most decent schools do not neglect their students if the kids are enrolled. I know we had to encourage parents to get their kids assessed for learning disabilities and on occasion substance abuse, but the intent was to keep the student, not kick him/her out.

Yeah I guess I phrased that poorly. I’m eternally grateful for the IEP program. It helped a lot in retrospect even though st the time I was too proud to notice.

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 6:52:29am

re: #165 Eric The Fruit Bat

Historian, eh? Care to comment on this? Curious to get your take so I can calibrate my trust levels…

From Betsy: “When school choice policies are fully implemented, there should not be differences in achievement among the various types of schools.”

It’s the education equivalent of the Laffer curve.

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2017 • 6:52:32am

My neighbor was practicing this song on her recorder. Now it’s stuck in my head, and so I share it with you.

Lyrics & Translation: ”The Moon Represents My Heart” -月亮代表我的心 - Teresa Teng

Teresa Teng was one of the first foreign singers (she was born in Taiwan) whose music was allowed into China after the Opening Up. Everyone in China knows this song by heart.
Well, at least the middle-aged folks do.

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 6:52:49am

talk about emails:

Emails about gun deals played a key role in a city inspector general’s investigation that led to last week’s shake-up at the Water Department, sources familiar with the probe said Monday.

One source with knowledge of the investigation said the City Hall watchdog initially began looking into emails regarding the gun deals and uncovered several that were sexist and racist, including messages about former President Barack Obama that dated back a year or two.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:53:37am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Public schools and private schools are apples and oranges: unless private and church schools are compelled to take all children who apply and are only allowed to expel them if they present an extreme and egregious threat to the well-being of other students, then they cannot begin to be compared to public schools, especially in terms of overall performance.

Which is a great argument against vouchers. K-12 school should be about accepting all. Post secondary you can and should be more selective.

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 6:54:25am

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:55:02am

re: #187 darthstar

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You can always submit your resume Laura but that would mean actually having to work rather than being a Coulter clone.

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 6:56:47am
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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2017 • 6:57:45am

re: #199 darthstar

Three hours? More like three minutes.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 6:57:56am

re: #131 Joe Bacon

Atrios nails Pumpkin Pinochet to the wall!

eschatonblog.com

Trump is a senile old man with some sort of degenerative brain condition and he will brag to anybody about anything. This isn’t about Russia, really, it’s about a president of the United States who brags to people that important people visit him in the Oval Office. A president of the United States who brags that he won the election. A president of the United States who tells reporters about how impressed people are with him. A man - not just a man, but the president of the United States of fucking America - who can’t have a conversation without telling someone how impressed other people are with him. He’ll tell anybody anything to impress them with how impressive he is.

Trump has been on my teevee and radio my entire adult life. I was a Howard Stern listener for a long time. Trump was a regular. He was always a horrible narcissistic braggart, but not like this. He has a problem, we have a problem, and despite the fact that his handlers keep telling the press that they have to treat him like a 5 year old, no one will come right out and say the obvious: Trump is in serious mental decline and also he runs the world.

Yeah…pretty much right on target. If only it leads to something like booting this idiot out of office and brings down all the people that have excused him…like every Republican in Congress. Then we will be getting somewhere.

My hope for today…tomorrow…and every day these boobs are around.

Out out damn Trump.

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 6:58:06am

re: #195 Birth Control Works

talk about emails:

“Gun deals”? The article doesn’t mention those or provide any background.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 6:58:18am

So get this, I have a very rare name and I got a friend request from a guy with my exact name who even kinda looks like me a little. Dude is a Trump fan though haha.

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carey94tt  May 16, 2017 • 6:59:12am

re: #34 teleskiguy

I went back and reviewed my comments on that thread and boy there were a bunch. I read through and thought “Huh, *I* said that”?

I ended up shooting Charles a supporting email that day.

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 6:59:37am

Facebook libertarian friend:

Facebook Post

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2017 • 7:00:34am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

So get this, I have a very rare name and I got a friend request from a guy with my exact name who even kinda looks like me a little. Dude is a Trump fan though haha.

One of you must have a goatee. It is required by Star Trek canon.

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 7:00:45am

Everyone needs a dog on the bed!

This is what I do when the real world drives me to it.

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 7:01:16am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

So get this, I have a very rare name and I got a friend request from a guy with my exact name who even kinda looks like me a little. Dude is a Trump fan though haha.

I have googled my name for years, and have never gotten a hit for something other than what I have written. About two months ago, I got a friend request for a guy with the same name, who was born in the state my wife is from, Arkansas, and now lives in a town in Louisiana with the same name as my oldest child. He has five kids and looks to be about 10 years younger. I have not accepted.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 7:01:22am

re: #135 Unshaken Defiance

A quote puzzle.

Who said this yesterday?

Ann Coulter in one of her rare moments of lucidity and observation.

Except when you get down to what Ann means. She is disappointed he isn’t the Nazi she wanted. She’s pissed off he might never be the Nazi she wanted because he is getting side tracked from her hopes of people of color being shipped out.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 7:01:43am

re: #206 wheat-dogg

One of you must have a goatee. It is required by Star Trek canon.

We both have beards actually haha.

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 7:02:12am

so many jokes:

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 7:02:20am

There aren’t that many people and if the ranking Democrats weren’t on the list, that leaves the Chairman, Sen. Burr.

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freetoken  May 16, 2017 • 7:02:52am

re: #209 ObserverArt

Except when you get down to what Ann means. She is disappointed he isn’t the Nazi she wanted. .

Exactly. Coulter want’s the Nazi… instead she got Col. Klink.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 7:02:54am

re: #208 Belafon

I have googled my name for years, and have never gotten a hit for something other than what I have written. About two months ago, I got a friend request for a guy with the same name, who was born in the state my wife is from, Arkansas, and now lives in a town in Louisiana with the same name as my oldest child. He has five kids and looks to be about 10 years younger. I have not accepted.

Yeah I have no desire to accept. He’s definitely not a close relative. I have no family where he’s from.

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b_sharp  May 16, 2017 • 7:03:04am

re: #210 HappyWarrior

We both have beards actually haha.

So you are both evil.

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 7:03:08am

re: #202 Timothy Watson

“Gun deals”? The article doesn’t mention those or provide any background.

I know

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 16, 2017 • 7:03:11am

Yesterday

Trump: I did not share any classified information with Russia! FAKE NEWS!!!

McMaster: WaPo’s account is totally false! It’s all lies!

Today

Trump: I can share what I want with Russia!

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 7:03:28am

re: #212 lawhawk

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There aren’t that many people and if the ranking Democrats weren’t on the list, that leaves the Chairman, Sen. Burr.

And it’s totally inappropriate for Burr to be briefed on something but not Warner.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 7:03:36am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

So get this, I have a very rare name and I got a friend request from a guy with my exact name who even kinda looks like me a little. Dude is a Trump fan though haha.

I found my namesake on FB…he is a flight mechanic for the Royal Canadian Air Force and is building his own plane, a 3/4 scale model flyable Spitfire.

Pointed out to him that my uncle, who also shared our name, built and flew his own plane.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 7:03:53am

re: #213 freetoken

Exactly. Coulter want’s the Nazi… instead she got Col. Klink.

Right.

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Teukka  May 16, 2017 • 7:04:06am

re: #217 GlutenFreeJesus

Yesterday

Trump: I did not share any classified information with Russia! FAKE NEWS!!!

McMaster: WaPo’s account is totally false! It’s all lies!

Today

Trump: I can share what I want with Russia!

Can he share the intel of a 3rd party?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 7:04:22am

re: #206 wheat-dogg

One of you must have a goatee. It is required by Star Trek canon.

The evil one must have a goatee. Or a torn tunic…

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 7:05:16am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I found my namesake on FB…he is a flight mechanic for the Royal Canadian Air Force and is building his own plane, a 3/4 scale model flyable Spitfire.

Pointed out to him that my uncle, who also shared our name, built and flew his own plane.

Crazy how that works out.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 16, 2017 • 7:05:36am

re: #221 Teukka

Most definitely not.

————————————-

Looking myself up on Google, apparently I’m a neuro surgeon or a rocket scientist. I’m just so proud of myself. :D

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 7:05:53am

re: #215 b_sharp

So you are both evil.

Ha!

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carey94tt  May 16, 2017 • 7:08:16am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

As an historian, please enlighten me on his competition.

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danarchy  May 16, 2017 • 7:08:51am

re: #221 Teukka

Can he share the intel of a 3rd party?

Sure, it is not illegal, it could very well ruin any intelligence cooperation with that 3rd party moving forward though.

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2017 • 7:09:05am

re: #210 HappyWarrior

We both have beards actually haha.

Then there must be a third guy without one!

My surname is not especially common, but my given name is. Even so, I get at least a dozen hits when I google my name. One guy teaches martial arts. Another is a Hollywood makeup artist, or some such thing. We’ve never met or corresponded, though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 7:09:21am

re: #224 GlutenFreeJesus

Most definitely not.

————————————-

Looking myself up on Google, apparently I’m a neuro surgeon or a rocket scientist. I’m just so proud of myself. :D

I also have a namesake in Nebraska who is a translator of works on Russian Eucharistic Theology.

Dad was born in Iowa, I have an MA in Russian, although the book I have translated is one on self-driving cars.

I am sure that we are some sort of distant relatives.

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 7:11:00am
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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2017 • 7:11:09am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I found my namesake on FB…he is a flight mechanic for the Royal Canadian Air Force and is building his own plane, a 3/4 scale model flyable Spitfire.

Pointed out to him that my uncle, who also shared our name, built and flew his own plane.

The Avion My Uncle Flew — Did you ever read that book?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 7:11:12am

LOL there are about 6 people on FB with the same name as me. One of them is MY OWN DAUGHTER IN LAW LOL. I use my middle initial so people don’t get us mixed up.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 7:12:23am

re: #228 wheat-dogg

Then there must be a third guy without one!

My surname is not especially common, but my given name is. Even so, I get at least a dozen hits when I google my name. One guy teaches martial arts. Another is a Hollywood makeup artist, or some such thing. We’ve never met or corresponded, though.

I actually have a very common given name but my last is equally uncommon. What’s funny is the earliest named person with my last name in my tree has my name but in German.

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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2017 • 7:13:21am

re: #215 b_sharp

How’s V today?

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 7:13:56am
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 7:14:02am

re: #226 carey94tt

As a historian, please enlighten me on his competition.

Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce, and Warren Harding. I do actually give Harding props for speaking out against lynching in the Deep South no less tho.

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 7:14:47am

re: #226 carey94tt

As an historian, please enlighten me on his competition.

FTFY

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 7:19:25am

re: #237 Birth Control Works

FTFY

Not fixed. Both are acceptable, but these days, the h is pronounced so it’s “a” historian.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 7:19:57am

re: #176 Charles Johnson

[(at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting)

He thinks by saying openly scheduled meeting he is covered.

Hey, everyone knew the Russians were coming!

(They just didn’t know I would kick the press out, allow a Russian “Photographer” in and blab about everything to them like how I’m so famous and awesome they tell me these secrets. You wanna hear them?)

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 7:21:15am

re: #239 ObserverArt

He thinks by saying openly scheduled meeting he is covered.

Hey, everyone knew the Russians were coming!

(They just didn’t know I would kick the press out, allow a Russian “Photographer” in and blab about everything to them like how I’m so famous and awesome they tell me these secrets. You wanna hear them?)

Suddenly, the leader of North Korea schedules a visit, but only if the president meets him privately. “We have so much to talk about.”

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 7:21:22am

It makes me really wonder if that was part of the reason our press wasn’t allowed in or if Trump blabbed randomly. Frankly both are believable situations imo.

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 7:22:16am

re: #238 Belafon

Not fixed. Both are acceptable, but these days, the h is pronounced so it’s “a” historian.

I’m too old for this stuff

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 7:23:43am
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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 7:24:34am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

I bet she’ll get a sweetheart deal because of who Daddy is.

I am sure that Sessions’ new policy won’t be applied to her.

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 7:24:57am

re: #238 Belafon

Not fixed. Both are acceptable, but these days, the h is pronounced so it’s “a” historian.

When was the “h” not pronounced?

So weird when I see “an historian”

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 7:25:50am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 7:25:58am
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 7:26:10am

re: #247 Sir John Barron

When was the “h” not pronounced?

So weird when I see “an historian”

With the Cockneys.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 7:26:42am

re: #248 Birth Control Works

I posted that earlier, without comment, on FB. Basically, we need more educational toys and TV shows.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 7:27:11am

re: #248 Birth Control Works

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Damned ungrateful millennials expecting me to pay for their college.//

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 7:27:47am

re: #248 Birth Control Works

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Software has gone down?

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 7:28:05am
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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 7:28:22am

re: #247 Sir John Barron

When was the “h” not pronounced?

So weird when I see “an historian”

grammarist.com

I think a lot of it is people want to apply the rule of ‘a’ vs ‘an’ to the letter, not the sound. And we say “an hour” all the time, so I think people want apply the same rule to other words that begin with h.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 7:28:55am

re: #248 Birth Control Works

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I don’t see Avocado Toast on that chart.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 7:29:07am

re: #255 Belafon

grammarist.com

I think a lot of it is people want to apply the rule of ‘a’ vs ‘an’ to the letter, not the sound. And we say “an hour” all the time, so I think people want apply the same rule to other words that begin with h.

Anne Helk

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 7:29:16am

re: #255 Belafon

grammarist.com

I think a lot of it is people want to apply the rule of ‘a’ vs ‘an’ to the letter, not the sound. And we say “an hour” all the time, so I think people want apply the same rule to other words that begin with h.

Thanks for this!

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 7:29:32am

re: #221 Teukka

Technically, he can share classified info.

However, the propriety of sharing top secret info that was passed on to the US with strict rules of use would say that he shouldn’t have.

By revealing that info, he put the sources at risk, undermined IC ties with the foreign nation, and increased the chances countries will hold back intel because they can’t trust Trump to use the information properly.

There’s quite a bit of speculation about what country got screwed as a result of this intel. Could be the UK (Australia, Canada, Britain, and New Zealand), or Israel.

If it were Israel, they’d be doubly pissed given that Trump apparently tried to schedule a visit to the Western Wall, but didn’t want Netenyahu to be there with him.

Israel wants the White House to explain why a U.S. diplomat preparing President Donald Trump’s visit to Jerusalem said Judaism’s Holy Western Wall in its Old City is part of the Israeli-occupied West Bank, an Israeli official said on Monday.

Israel considers all of Jerusalem as its indivisible capital, a claim that is not recognized internationally, and the Western Wall - the holiest prayer site for Jews - is part of territory it captured in the 1967 Middle East war.

Israel’s Channel 2 reported that during a planning meeting between U.S. and Israeli officials, the Israelis were told that Trump’s visit to the Western Wall was private, Israel did not have jurisdiction in the area and that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was not welcome to accompany Trump there.

Trump: How to fuck up alliances in one easy step.

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 7:31:49am

re: #259 lawhawk

I guess since Trump talked to Abbas more recently that Netanyahu, Trump is now convinced that it’s Palestinian territory.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 7:33:10am

re: #259 lawhawk

“Israel wants White House to explain U.S. official’s Western Wall comment”

Israel should have enough sense not to pay attention to anything Trump says about a damn wall

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 7:34:10am
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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 7:34:51am

re: #248 Birth Control Works

And the difference between the red and blue lines is that the blue lines can be either automated or moved to other countries.

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SteelPH  May 16, 2017 • 7:37:06am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Israel wants White House to explain U.S. official’s Western Wall comment”

Israel should have enough sense not to pay attention to anything Trump says about a damn wall anything whatsoever.

FTFY

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freetoken  May 16, 2017 • 7:37:21am

re: #248 Birth Control Works

UC posted a video the other day, of a speech by Tuft’s President, on the issue of costs in higher education, and why they are not constrained:

Lawrence Bacow on Higher Education

The bottom line is that there is no real constituency in the education universe that is for cost constraints. He points out that only the public schools whose funding is limited by gov’t action on budgets in general.

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Birth Control Works  May 16, 2017 • 7:37:33am

re: #263 Belafon

And the difference between the red and blue lines is that the blue lines can be either automated or moved to other countries.

Also, blue lines are consumables —things we replace instead of repair these days.

So, they aren’t cheaper — in the long run.

My Mom had her washer and driver for decades —now, we replace them every 10 years or so.

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danarchy  May 16, 2017 • 7:37:45am

re: #263 Belafon

And the difference between the red and blue lines is that the blue lines can be either automated or moved to other countries.

Unless you are a rwnj, then the red lines have been artificially distorted by excessive government interference.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 7:37:49am
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  May 16, 2017 • 7:38:26am
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freetoken  May 16, 2017 • 7:39:23am

re: #263 Belafon

And the difference between the red and blue lines is that the blue lines can be either automated or moved to other countries.

Indeed, the blue lines are blue because we don’t pay some poor Bangladeshi enough to assemble our clothes.

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 7:39:39am

Ominous ellipsis or did the senile fart forget what he was going to say?

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 7:41:47am

re: #270 freetoken

Indeed, the blue lines are blue because we don’t pay some poor Bangladeshi enough to assemble our clothes.

Advantages in technology have helped. And for some of the technology stuff, e.g. software, the marginal cost isn’t that much but more people internationally can afford computers and therefore the fixed costs are distributed over more people.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 7:42:06am

re: #271 Timothy Watson

Someone grabbed his phone before he could do even more damage?

He brain farted and remembered that he was about to miss another tee time?

He’s practicing the art of the cliffhanger?

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freetoken  May 16, 2017 • 7:42:47am

Now, I could make a case that those red lines are the items that ought to be red in that graph.

That is, we ought to value people more than things, so services performed such as education and healthcare ought to be the major portion of our budgets.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 16, 2017 • 7:42:53am

re: #188 Belafon

If Republicans all start spinning in the same direction, our days will either shorten to 15 hours, or lengthen to 30.

Why wouldn’t they lengthen to 33 hours? ….

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 7:43:41am
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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 7:44:02am
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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 7:44:32am
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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 7:46:19am

Did all of you catch the bit of news about the dreaded “Wanna Cry” ransom virus? Apparently it might have come from our own CIA/NSA.

Some speculation Wikileaks might be behind it…and who knows, maybe Eddie Snowden had a hand in it being released to the hackers of the world.

Hacker News. com - WannaCry Ransomeware That Is Hitting The World Right Now Uses NSA Windows Exploit

Ransomware Using NSA’s Exploit to Spread Rapidly

What’s interesting about this ransomware is that WannaCry attackers are leveraging a Windows exploit harvested from the NSA called EternalBlue, which was dumped by the Shadow Brokers hacking group over a month ago.

Microsoft released a patch for the vulnerability in March (MS17-010), but many users and organizations who did not patch their systems are open to attacks.

The exploit has the capability to penetrate into machines running unpatched version of Windows XP through 2008 R2 by exploiting flaws in Microsoft Windows SMB Server. This is why WannaCry campaign is spreading at an astonishing pace.

Once a single computer in your organization is hit by the WannaCry ransomware, the worm looks for other vulnerable computers and infects them as well.

“The worm functionality attempts to infect unpatched Windows machines in the local network. At the same time, it also executes massive scanning on Internet IP addresses to find and infect other vulnerable computers. This activity results in large SMB traffic from the infected host” Microsoft says.

Infections from All Around the World

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 7:49:55am

re: #273 lawhawk

Someone grabbed his phone before he could do even more damage?

He brain farted and remembered that he was about to miss another tee time?

He’s practicing the art of the cliffhanger?

I think he stopped tweeting when his addled brain realized he IS the leaker.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 16, 2017 • 7:50:15am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

So get this, I have a very rare name and I got a friend request from a guy with my exact name who even kinda looks like me a little. Dude is a Trump fan though haha.

Traveler from a parallel universe where you went down the dark path.

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 7:52:45am

re: #279 ObserverArt

Did all of you catch the bit of news about the dreaded “Wanna Cry” ransom virus? Apparently it might have come from our own CIA/NSA.

Some speculation Wikileaks might be behind it…and who knows, maybe Eddie Snowden had a hand in it being released to the hackers of the world.

Hacker News. com - WannaCry Ransomeware That Is Hitting The World Right Now Uses NSA Windows Exploit

ABC has a story suggesting the DPRK.

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 7:55:43am

re: #274 freetoken

Now, I could make a case that those red lines are the items that ought to be red in that graph.

That is, we ought to value people more than things, so services performed such as education and healthcare ought to be the major portion of our budgets.

And per my comment before, if it weren’t for automating and offshoring, those wouldn’t be nearly as low, and a big portion of those costs would be in wages, which would make college and health care a lot more affordable.

So that the wealthy can keep getting wealthier, we’ve made the really important stuff more expensive while making it harder for the average person to earn the money necessary to pay for them.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 7:58:33am
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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 8:03:02am

If someone said if you voted for Clinton that our national secrets wouldn’t be safe.

And they were right! /

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 8:05:45am

And this is perhaps the scariest bit about the whole nonstop shitshow.

All of Trump’s scandals are self-inflicted. He lurches from crisis to crisis, all of which are of his own doing. He’s yet to be tested by an actual crisis overseas or domestically - like a natural disaster or mass shooting, etc.

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 8:08:48am

re: #286 lawhawk

And this is perhaps the scariest bit about the whole nonstop shitshow.

All of Trump’s scandals are self-inflicted. He lurches from crisis to crisis, all of which are of his own doing. He’s yet to be tested by an actual crisis overseas or domestically - like a natural disaster or mass shooting, etc.

Maybe the extraordinary “ban all electronic devices” from foreign travelers is as much a “we don’t want Trump to have to manage a national crisis” as it is a “we’re preventing terrorists from blowing up a plane.” Both are there to protect the American people.

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 8:10:33am

I usually don’t pay attention to the WH press briefings, but today I might make an exception (provided they even have one today).

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 8:11:29am

re: #288 makeitstop

I usually don’t pay attention to the WH press briefings, but today I might make an exception (provided they even have one today).

Spicer won’t “relitigate” yesterday.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 8:12:01am

So why would a Trump supporter leak a damaging story about the president to multiple news organizations? According to Erickson, it’s the only way to get Trump to change his behavior.

“The President will not take any internal criticism, no matter how politely it is given,” Erickson explains. “He does not want advice, cannot be corrected, and is too insecure to see any constructive feedback as anything other than an attack. So some of the sources are left with no other option but to go to the media, leak the story, and hope that the intense blowback gives the President a swift kick in the butt.”

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 8:13:15am

Good morning Internet, have I missed anything?

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 8:13:59am

re: #289 Timothy Watson

Spicer won’t “relitigate” yesterday.

According to TPM, they’re sending out McMasters today at 11:30.

I predict he’ll read a statement that says nothing, take no questions and bail.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 8:14:59am

re: #290 Dr. Matt

It’d be safer if all the televisions were unable to tune into Fox News. Get him out of that idiot box bubble.

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plansbandc  May 16, 2017 • 8:14:59am

re: #69 Amory Blaine

No. My family did that some years ago.

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Le Coquí Résistance  May 16, 2017 • 8:18:10am

By accident, I came upon this video on the situation of Puerto Rico. Rather, how Puerto Rico became part of the USA, but apart.

Why is Puerto Rico not part of the United States of America?

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Romantic Heretic  May 16, 2017 • 8:18:16am

re: #218 Timothy Watson

And it’s totally inappropriate for Burr to be briefed on something but not Warner.

‘Inappropriate’ is not a reason that prevents the GOP from doing things.

I suspect smacking them on the nose with a rolled up newspaper is the only thing that can stop them.

(Apologies to dogs who are generally smarter and less venal than the GOP)

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 8:19:31am

re: #293 lawhawk

It’d be safer if all the televisions were unable to tune into Fox News. Get him out of that idiot box bubble.

You can’t take away his safe place though.

Frankly, I want him to keep watching fox and reading gotnewz. I want him to keep Spicer, Conway, and Bannon on his staff. I want all these elements of chaos around him because they are only going to help defeat and crush his presidency from within. The more chaos the better at this point.

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Romantic Heretic  May 16, 2017 • 8:20:50am

re: #228 wheat-dogg

Following this conversation now has this song going through my head.

Daves I Know - The Kids in the Hall

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 8:21:58am
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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 8:25:36am

re: #286 lawhawk

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And this is perhaps the scariest bit about the whole nonstop shitshow.

All of Trump’s scandals are self-inflicted. He lurches from crisis to crisis, all of which are of his own doing. He’s yet to be tested by an actual crisis overseas or domestically - like a natural disaster or mass shooting, etc.

Remember all the articles that said his business model was to get good people and then pit them against each other to bring out the best.

They failed to mention Trump seems to do the same with himself. The bad Trump pits himself against the worst Trump to bring out the absolute worst.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 8:27:04am

re: #300 ObserverArt

All those articles about how he picked only the best people were absolute bullshit. None of it was true.

That’s all the more apparent now. He has no guiding principle other than personal loyalty. If you’re loyal to him, you’re hired. He tests loyalty by throwing you under the bus, and if you still support him, you’re in like Flynn (oh… wait)…

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Major Tom  May 16, 2017 • 8:27:28am

re: #298 Romantic Heretic

30 Helen’s agree.

Thirty Helens Agree #1 - The Kids in the Hall

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 8:30:22am

re: #290 Dr. Matt

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Nice fiction writing there Erick. Keep trying to explain the obvious away. Trump is Trump…a complete mess and no President should need people to stoop low enough to make security leaks embarrassing enough to wake him up.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 8:31:55am
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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 8:34:55am

re: #292 makeitstop

According to TPM, they’re sending out McMasters today at 11:30.

I predict he’ll read a statement that says nothing, take no questions and bail.

They are down to the last pinch hitter and relief pitcher on the bench.

Everyone is saying the other press staffers have blown it so bad they no longer are listened to or believed. At the same time, McMasters is their last credible hope. I wonder if McMasters realizes he is headed for the same…Trump kills character and careers.

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 8:36:29am

re: #305 ObserverArt

They are down to the last pinch hitter and relief pitcher on the bench.

Everyone is saying the other press staffers have blown it so bad they no longer are listened to or believed. At the same time, McMasters is their last credible hope. I wonder if McMasters realizes he is headed for the same…Trump kills character and careers.

NBC is showing an empty podium right now. Remember when they used to do that for Candidate Man-Baby?

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 8:38:33am

8 minutes late and counting…..

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BlueGrl21  May 16, 2017 • 8:39:04am

The coach/political science teacher husband has been getting texts from former players since Trump was elected. Asking for the facts of what is happening so they can understand it all.

Last night, we got, “Coach, is it true Trump gave top secret information to the Russians?”

“Lots of key, reputable news organizations are confirming, so looks like he did.”

“WHY?!?!??”

“Pretty sure stupidity combined with a need to impress the Russians.”

“Why is he president?”

“This is a coffee conversation. More importantly, if you don’t like it, you and all of the people you know need to vote. This is your country too and you need to step up.”

“Yes, sir.”

Onward.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 8:40:07am

“Little Sisters of the Poor” still fighting to deny birth control benefits to women who are not nuns, not their sisters but who are poor:

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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2017 • 8:40:28am
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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 8:40:54am

re: #308 BlueGrl21

The coach/political science teacher husband has been getting texts from former players since Trump was elected. Asking for the facts of what is happening so they can uunderstand it all.

Last night, we got, “Coach, is it true Trump gave top secret information to the Russians?”

“Lots of key, reputable news organizations are confirming, so looks like he did.”

“WHY?!?!??”

“Pretty sure stupidity combined with a need to impress the Russians.”

“Why is he president?”

“This is a coffee conversation. More importantly, if you don’t like it, you and all of the people you know need to vote. This is your country too and you need to step up.”

“Yes, sir.”

It’s been like this since the day Trump was elected.

Listen to the coach!!!

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electrotek  May 16, 2017 • 8:41:34am

re: #310 Stanley Sea

I’ll accept that…but only if he gives Florida to Mexico in exchange for all of Baja California, including Baja California Sur.

I want warm scenic beaches within the continental US for once! Florida beaches are flat and boring :(

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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2017 • 8:41:35am
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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 8:42:45am
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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 8:43:49am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

8 minutes late and counting…..

Going on 15. Trying to get today’s lies straight.

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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2017 • 8:44:16am

re: #302 Major Tom

Reminded me of this blog! Glad they are still kicking & bitchin

margaretandhelen.com

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 8:44:44am

re: #315 makeitstop

Going on 15. Trying to get today’s lies straight.

Or trying to find a balance between too drunk and too sober.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 8:44:50am

re: #315 makeitstop

Going on 15. Trying to get today’s lies straight.

Shake the bushes…

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 8:45:41am
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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2017 • 8:46:14am

re: #312 electrotek

I’ll accept that…but only if he gives Florida to Mexico in exchange for all of Baja California, including Baja California Sur.

I want warm scenic beaches within the continental US for once! Florida beaches are flat and boring :(

Florida beaches are way better than west coast beaches.

No piles of stinking kelp to begin with. & the water temp is bearable.

But the views from the west coast, I’ll give you that.

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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2017 • 8:46:54am

re: #315 makeitstop

Going on 15. Trying to get today’s lies straight.

Seriously, imagine the last minute shit they are arguing about.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 8:46:54am
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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 8:47:11am

re: #315 makeitstop

Going on 15. Trying to get today’s lies straight.

Probably need a couple shots of whiskey and some Pepto before heading out.

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electrotek  May 16, 2017 • 8:47:21am

re: #320 Stanley Sea

Florida beaches are way better than west coast beaches.

No piles of stinking kelp to begin with. & the water temp is bearable.

But the views from the west coast, I’ll give you that.

But you still have to deal with Florida people.

Can’t beat the views of Big Sur.

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calochortus  May 16, 2017 • 8:47:47am

re: #320 Stanley Sea

Florida beaches are way better than west coast beaches.

No piles of stinking kelp to begin with. & the water temp is bearable.

But the views from the west coast, I’ll give you that.

Hey! Stinking kelp (with flies, of course) and 50° water are what make our beaches great here in the west.

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 8:48:55am

Somebody go pour some hot coffee down McMaster’s throat. We got lies to propagate here…

Huh. Spicer’s up.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 16, 2017 • 8:50:28am

re: #326 makeitstop

McMaster chicken out?

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 8:51:03am

re: #313 Stanley Sea

IOKIYAR

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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2017 • 8:51:45am

The schedule? whoo wheee

Also, note the toning down of Muslim hate.

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 8:51:46am

re: #327 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

McMaster chicken out?

No, he’s there. Spicer came out to introduce him.

McMaster’s blathering about the upcoming trip.

Something about a live Twitter forum with young people. That should go well…

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 8:52:17am
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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 8:53:24am

Man, McMasters is bad at this.

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 8:53:26am

re: #331 darthstar

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McMaster has been planning and coordinating the trip IIRC.

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 8:53:30am
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BlueGrl21  May 16, 2017 • 8:53:34am

re: #311 ObserverArt

Listen to the coach!!!

They actually do. This was a player that graduated 14 years ago. Then it was followed by a text from a player who is a senior this year. “Coach, I don’t know how to tie a tie and prom is coming up! Can you teach me, please!”

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 8:54:21am

Sounds about right:

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 8:55:35am

He stands by the premise that the story is false???

What the fuck, man?

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Broad With Sass  May 16, 2017 • 8:55:51am

re: #312 electrotek

Ok, Mexico has universal healthcare…

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 8:56:34am

This is some bullshit.

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 8:57:02am

This hasn’t aged well, in the last couple hours, since tRump stated it was within his rights when he released classified info to the Russian government…

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 8:57:34am

re: #337 makeitstop

He stands by the premise that the story is false???

What the fuck, man?

The Wash Post story was false, DT didn’t leak info to Russia, but someone leaked contents of meeting to Wash Post and that person should be prosecuted and it’s OK for DT to give classified info to Russian even if he didn’t but he did so it’s OK.

Is that so hard to understand?

//////

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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2017 • 8:58:48am

Totally admitting everything. Saying it’s A-OK

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 8:59:22am

Trump disclosed classified information to protect the American people.

Fuckin’ Orwell wept.

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 8:59:57am

Don’t get filled up on McMaster, Trump has a live event with the Dictator of Turkey later.

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 9:01:23am

re: #334 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, they’re pretty conclusive at this point. We should move onto the next phase.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 9:01:24am
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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 9:03:35am

re: #342 Stanley Sea

Totally admitting everything. Saying it’s A-OK

The leaker to the Wash Post should still be hanged.

///

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 9:03:47am
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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 9:04:40am
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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 9:05:18am

Fox News asking about how to stop the leaks.

Spit.

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 9:05:45am

re: #350 makeitstop

Fox News asking about how to stop the leaks.

Spit.

State Media: Help us to help you

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 9:06:16am

re: #347 Sir John Barron

The leaker to the Wash Post should still be hanged.

///

Leak what? McMaster just said the information was public knowledge.

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 9:06:53am

Today’s Trump Cult buzz phrase: ‘wholly appropriate.’

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 9:07:09am

An hour until this inevitable clusterfrak

President Trump Gives Joint Statements with President Erdogan

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 9:07:51am

re: #353 makeitstop

Today’s Trump Cult buzz phrase: ‘wholly appropriate.’

If the (white male Republican) President does it, it’s not illegal!

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 9:08:46am
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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 9:09:31am

re: #354 Timothy Watson

An hour until this inevitable clusterfrak

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It will be “wholly appropriate”.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 9:11:17am

re: #340 FormerDirtDart

This hasn’t aged well, in the last couple hours, since tRump stated it was within his rights when he released classified info to the Russian government…

ABC News ✔ @ABC
Russia dismisses report that Pres. Trump shared classified intel with members of Russian gov’t, calling it nonsense abcn.ws
11:53 AM - 16 May 2017
39 39 Retweets 36 36 likes

Heh. Even the Russians can’t control him.

Tell us about it Vlad…he’ll make a fool of you too.

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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2017 • 9:11:40am
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KGxvi  May 16, 2017 • 9:13:08am

re: #350 makeitstop

Fox News asking about how to stop the leaks.

Spit.

Get a competent president who engenders true loyalty to the country? Preferably someone who is trusted by WH staff?

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 9:13:16am

re: #359 Stanley Sea

So it wasn’t classified info but DT can share classified info anyway so…

///

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 9:13:42am

re: #359 Stanley Sea

“All I can tell you is that maps could be involved.”

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 9:14:33am

re: #362 Belafon

“All I can tell you is that maps could be involved.”

“The yugest most bigly maps with the most beautiful cartography!”

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 9:14:45am

CNN headline yesterday:

“DT Administration looks to get by Comey Firestorm….”

Everyday, replace “Comey” with something else, anything else.

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 9:15:29am

Yesterday: “It didn’t happen”
Today: “It’s not as bad as you make it seem”

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 9:16:12am
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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 9:16:34am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

Because

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 9:16:41am

re: #349 FormerDirtDart

Forcing McMaster to defend this is a pretty good way to break any notion of McMaster as having meaningful independence.

Game to play in your head: Someone in the room had to repeat what Trump said to someone else. Was it in the context of, “I can’t that fucking idiot actually named the city!”?

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austin_blue  May 16, 2017 • 9:16:45am

re: #362 Belafon

“All I can tell you is that maps could be involved.”

“And they are almost entirely red with little blue spots.”

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KGxvi  May 16, 2017 • 9:16:54am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

BECAUSE SHUT UP THATS WHY!

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 9:17:18am

re: #367 Sir John Barron

Because

Because, shut up libtard.

FTFY.

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sauceruney  May 16, 2017 • 9:17:28am

Trump has been portrayed by past WH sources as someone who not only won’t read his Presidential Daily Briefing, but doesn’t have the attention span for the single sheet of bullet points he requests in its place.

For WH sources to be crapping themselves enough to go to the Washington Post over this Russian briefing, you’d have to think he passed on something substantial, from documents, and with help.

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 9:17:36am
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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 9:18:03am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

Because DT conversations with visitors are special and should not ever be disclosed. Transparency. Drain the Swamp.

///

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 9:18:57am

And McCain is now saying that Trump giving Russia classified information is ‘disturbing.’

“The reports that the President shared sensitive intelligence with Russian officials are deeply disturbing,” McCain said in his statement. “Reports that this information was provided by a U.S. ally and shared without its knowledge sends a troubling signal to America’s allies and partners around the world and may impair their willingness to share intelligence with us in the future.”

He added that, “[r]egrettably, the time President Trump spent sharing sensitive information with the Russians was time he did not spend focusing on Russia’s aggressive behavior, including its interference in American and European elections, its illegal invasion of Ukraine and annexation of Crimea, its other destabilizing activities across Europe, and the slaughter of innocent civilians and targeting of hospitals in Syria.”

Yeah, that’s great, Walnuts. When the fuck are you and the rest of your fucking cult gonna do something about it?

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 9:19:27am

re: #375 makeitstop

He hasn’t gotten the new talking points.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 9:19:53am

Talk to any teacher of young children, they can tell you children will cover a misdeed up with lies and more lies. And when presented with the actual facts and proof they will continue to lie and then throw a tantrum acting like they are soooo hurt nobody will listen.

This is how the current Presidential Administration, the Republican Party, Fox News, Wingnut media and all of Trump’s supporters are acting.

Time to take away some of their liberties and give a bunch of them bigly time outs.

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KGxvi  May 16, 2017 • 9:20:27am

re: #376 Sir John Barron

He hasn’t gotten the new talking points.

Well, the new talking points are being held up by the latest poll results… have to see what registered Republicans are thinking on this

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 9:21:52am

re: #376 Sir John Barron

He hasn’t gotten the new talking points.

Yesterday he was just fine with it. McCain’s just going wherever the four winds blow, I guess.

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Skip Intro  May 16, 2017 • 9:23:05am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

I bet she’ll get a sweetheart deal because of who Daddy is.

Daddy gave the drugs to her to test them to see if they’re getting stronger.

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Skip Intro  May 16, 2017 • 9:24:43am

re: #259 lawhawk

Jared fucked up again.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 9:25:15am

re: #379 makeitstop

Yesterday he was just fine with it. McCain’s just going wherever the four winds blow, I guess.

I agree McCain blows!!!

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 9:29:00am

re: #364 Sir John Barron

CNN headline yesterday:

“DT Administration looks to get by Comey Firestorm….”

Everyday, replace “Comey” with something else, anything else.

Either the Trump administration is a complete and utter disaster of no measurable precedent.
Or, they have engaged in a “Wag the Dog” strategy on par with playing three-dimensional chess, in a blacked out room, with moves communicated through whispers between ten intermediaries in an adult version of “Telephone”.

Frankly, I don’t believe the administration is capable of playing checkers against a blind chicken…

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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2017 • 9:30:53am
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Teukka  May 16, 2017 • 9:32:12am

re: #384 goddamnedfrank

*moans softly as he begins headdesking*

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 9:32:30am

re: #384 goddamnedfrank

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2017 • 9:32:59am

re: #384 goddamnedfrank

What could possibly go wrong?

*headdesk*

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 9:33:41am

I have the IIHF World Hockey tournament on as background noise while I work away on web store pricing. Team USA just beat Russia 5-3 for the top spot in the final rounds. Seems fitting for what is going on.

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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2017 • 9:34:05am

re: #377 ObserverArt

Talk to any teacher of young children, they can tell you children will cover a misdeed up with lies and more lies. And when presented with the actual facts and proof they will continue to lie and then throw a tantrum acting like they are soooo hurt nobody will listen.

This is how the current Presidential Administration, the Republican Party, Fox News, Wingnut media and all of Trump’s supporters are acting.

Time to take away some of their liberties and give a bunch of them bigly time outs.

Did you read the David brooks column?

Must.

When the World is Led by a Child

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Mike Lamb  May 16, 2017 • 9:36:14am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

LOL there are about 6 people on FB with the same name as me. One of them is MY OWN DAUGHTER IN LAW LOL. I use my middle initial so people don’t get us mixed up.

Well, I searched “The V. Babushka” and nothing came up.

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 9:36:51am

re: #386 FormerDirtDart

what could go wrong?

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 9:36:55am

re: #384 goddamnedfrank

#BREAKING Trump to give speech on Islam in Saudi Arabia: White House

I wonder if body armor is available on Amazon and if it qualifies for Prime.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2017 • 9:36:58am

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

BREAKING Trump to give speech on Islam in Saudi Arabia: White House

Goddam. Might be time to return to the bosom of the Church.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 9:37:05am

re: #391 Mike Lamb

Well, I searched “The V. Babushka” and nothing came up.

They make you use your real name on FB, or at least a fake name that sounds like a real name.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 9:37:07am

re: #389 Stanley Sea

Did you read the David brooks column?

Must.

When the World is Led by a Child

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I will, but I admit, I am growing tired of the Times and really do not like giving them hits.

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Mike Lamb  May 16, 2017 • 9:37:31am

re: #384 goddamnedfrank

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Who in the living fuck could possibly think this is a good idea?

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2017 • 9:38:31am

re: #397 Mike Lamb

Who in the living fuck could possible think this is a good idea?

Hassan Rouhani

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Mike Lamb  May 16, 2017 • 9:39:00am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

They make you use your real name on FB, or at least a fake name that sounds like a real name.

The Vicious Babushka is not your real name?!?!? Next you will tell me we elected a high functioning moron as president.

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electrotek  May 16, 2017 • 9:39:08am

re: #397 Mike Lamb

Who in the living fuck could possible think this is a good idea?

Who knows, maybe he might convert.

And then once he recites the shahada, he will pull gullible Muslims who fawn over converts easily.

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Teukka  May 16, 2017 • 9:39:41am

re: #399 Mike Lamb

The Vicious Babushka is not your real name?!?!? Next you will tell me we elected a high functioning moron as president.

You elected a barely high-functioning moron as president.

*ducks*

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 9:40:10am

re: #400 electrotek

Who knows, maybe he might convert.

And then once he recites the shahada, he will pull gullible Muslims who fawn over converts easily.

He’ll pretend to convert so he can get inside Mecca and promise the yugest, classiest Trump Tower ever.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2017 • 9:41:39am

re: #402 Timothy Watson

He’ll pretend to convert so he can get inside Mecca and promise the yugest, classiest Trump Tower ever.

He can add “Haji” to his honorifics. He likes honorifics.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 9:41:54am

WE ARE SO FUCKED

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 9:42:28am
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Joe Bacon  May 16, 2017 • 9:43:09am

re: #375 makeitstop

And McCain is now saying that Trump giving Russia classified information is ‘disturbing.’

Yeah, that’s great, Walnuts. When the fuck are you and the rest of your fucking cult gonna do something about it?

As soon as Lumpy and Miss Lindsay finish munching on their club sandwiches…

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calochortus  May 16, 2017 • 9:44:01am

Meanwhile, in other messes created by the current administration, it occurred to me that all the court cases over banning Muslims temporarily keeping people from various countries we don’t like from entering the country are about to be rendered moot. Wasn’t the longest “temporary ban” 120 days? Trump has been in office nearly that long, so that extra time we needed to figure things out has just about elapsed and I’m sure* the administration has been working hard on the whole thing.

*No, actually I’m not sure. In fact, I’d bet money there has been no progress whatsoever made in deciding how to screen these folks.

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 9:44:03am

re: #404 The Vicious Babushka

WE ARE SO FUCKED

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John Brennan, still living rent-free in the nutjobs’ minds.

I am old enough to remember when Senate Democrats didn’t like him for supporting torture and wouldn’t vote to confirm him to be CIA Director.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 9:45:26am

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

AFP news agency ✔ @AFP
#BREAKING Trump to give speech on Islam in Saudi Arabia: White House

Trump must realize if he doesn’t insult Islam his already plummeting approval ratings will hit all-time lows because he will lose his base.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2017 • 9:46:32am

Asshole of the day

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 9:46:56am
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Eventual Carrion  May 16, 2017 • 9:47:54am

re: #387 Dr Lizardo

What could possibly go wrong?

*headdesk*

He might want to bring his 2 Corinthian friends along for that one.

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Mike Lamb  May 16, 2017 • 9:50:48am

re: #410 gocart mozart

Asshole of the day

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Yes, the Toddler Tantrums are wearing us out, but I don’t think he knows who is having the tantrums.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 9:53:09am

re: #389 Stanley Sea

Did you read the David brooks column?

Must.

When the World is Led by a Child

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I read it. It was decent, but a lot of good Lizards could have written it as much of it has already been said here.

I did find this one paragraph (not Brooks) disturbing.

“We badly want to understand Trump, to grasp him,” David Roberts writes in Vox. “It might give us some sense of control, or at least an ability to predict what he will do next. But what if there’s nothing to understand? What if there is no there there?”

Books is correct but needs to be more definitive. There is nothing to understand, and no reason to go deeper. Damn, we’re going on two years of the obviousness of Trump’s character. Quit trying to understand him. Admit we know and let’s all write about getting him the hell out.

Damn, so many American’s are so squishy these days. Tell the freaking truth, we have all of the facts needed.

Trump doesn’t need a participation trophy…he needs his ass kicked.

And that is something that has been long needed in his life. No one told him NO!!!

Well: NO!

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 9:54:17am

Perfect

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2017 • 9:54:22am
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 9:56:23am

re: #416 gocart mozart

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I think he seriously sees nothing wrong with what he did and that’s the scariest thing of all about him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 9:57:23am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

I think he seriously sees nothing wrong with what he did and that’s the scariest thing of all about him.

the fact that he did it made it okay

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 9:57:27am

re: #407 calochortus

Meanwhile, in other messes created by the current administration, it occurred to me that all the court cases over banning Muslims temporarily keeping people from various countries we don’t like from entering the country are about to be rendered moot. Wasn’t the longest “temporary ban” 120 days? Trump has been in office nearly that long, so that extra time we needed to figure things out has just about elapsed and I’m sure* the administration has been working hard on the whole thing.

*No, actually I’m not sure. In fact, I’d bet money there has been no progress whatsoever made in deciding how to screen these folks.

And look at all the threats we’ve faced in that same time period. All the threats Trump said we would suffer if this “ban” was not in place.

The biggest threat is Trump. Go figure.

Hey…how about we come up with the laws to ban him!

Or, maybe acknowledge we already have them.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 9:58:11am

BTW, what does “openly scheduled” actually mean especially since be banned US media from the meeting?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 9:58:55am

re: #420 Dr. Matt

BTW, what does “openly scheduled” actually mean especially since be banned US media from the meeting?

he meant that it was not a secret meeting

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Mike Lamb  May 16, 2017 • 9:58:58am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

I think he seriously sees nothing wrong with what he did and that’s the scariest thing of all about him.

I just don’t believe there was any forethought at all. I don’t believe he had any real clue that he knew what he did. He’s just trying to create some kind of ex post facto rationale to make it appear that he was in control.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 9:59:08am

re: #410 gocart mozart

Asshole of the day

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Dude supports a guy who cries over SNL mocking him and he calls people concerned a foreign power interfered in our election toddlers? Go back to acting James.

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 10:01:27am

re: #416 gocart mozart

For no reason.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:01:59am

re: #422 Mike Lamb

I just don’t believe there was any forethought at all. I don’t believe he had any real clue that he knew what he did. He’s just trying to create some kind of ex post facto rationale to make it appear that he was in control.

Very true.

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 10:02:11am

NOTE: There hasn’t actually been a real crisis yet that wasn’t generated by the DT administration itself.

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CongoJack  May 16, 2017 • 10:02:13am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

Dude supports a guy who cries over SNL mocking him and he calls people concerned a foreign power interfered in our election toddlers? Go back to acting James.

Or don’t - his acting wasn’t that great (though his appearances in Family Guy were OK).

I’m gone for a couple days (sick) and I don’t turn on the TV or look at anything online and all hell breaks loose.

Apparently eating cold food and drinking warm beer at a bowling alley may just make you sick for a weekend. What was I suppose to do? I was with old college friends reliving college.

/

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:03:18am

re: #427 CongoJack

Or don’t - his acting wasn’t that great (though his appearances in Family Guy were OK).

I’m gone for a couple days (sick) and I don’t turn on the TV or look at anything online and all hell breaks loose.

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He always plays an obnoxious douche, come to the conclusion he’s playing himself. I do like him on FG tho.

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 10:03:52am

re: #427 CongoJack

Or don’t - his acting wasn’t that great (though his appearances in Family Guy were OK).

I’m gone for a couple days (sick) and I don’t turn on the TV or look at anything online and all hell breaks loose.

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It was your fault. //

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2017 • 10:04:40am

re: #428 HappyWarrior

He always plays an obnoxious douche, come to the conclusion he’s playing himself. I do like him on FG tho.

He was good in Videodrome, at least in my opinion. A solid performance.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 10:05:30am

re: #430 Dr Lizardo

He was good in Videodrome, at least in my opinion. A solid performance.

I liked him in Hercules.

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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2017 • 10:05:48am
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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 10:07:42am

re: #427 CongoJack

Or don’t - his acting wasn’t that great (though his appearances in Family Guy were OK).

I’m gone for a couple days (sick) and I don’t turn on the TV or look at anything online and all hell breaks loose.

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He was pretty good when he guest starred on ER. He got nominated for an Emmy.

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 10:07:55am

re: #432 Stanley Sea

“Did you see my Elector Vote win? It was the biggest ever. I think this prophet Muhammad is doing some of his best work lately, everybody says so. “

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 10:09:37am

re: #435 Timothy Watson

Starting now

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“I love the work the Turkey president is doing on freedoms, the press, educations, and women’s rights.”

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KGxvi  May 16, 2017 • 10:09:52am

re: #428 HappyWarrior

He always plays an obnoxious douche, come to the conclusion he’s playing himself. I do like him on FG tho.

I actually played poker with him for a little bit last year (or maybe earlier this year) here in LA. Was actually a pretty nice guy, but there’s sort of an unwritten rule in poker that you don’t talk politics at the table.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:10:43am

re: #430 Dr Lizardo

He was good in Videodrome, at least in my opinion. A solid performance.

He’s not a bad actor imo. Just seems the range is limited but I do need to see more.

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 10:11:48am

My favorite Woods’ performance is in The Simpsons.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:12:17am

re: #437 KGxvi

I actually played poker with him for a little bit last year (or maybe earlier this year) here in LA. Was actually a pretty nice guy, but there’s sort of an unwritten rule in poker that you don’t talk politics at the table.

That’s cool. I don’t dislike him like I do Nugent but JW gives an obnoxious vibe to me. Otoh I’ve had two friends of two totally differing political views tell me Tucker Carlson is nice and remembers people.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:12:32am

re: #439 Belafon

My favorite Woods’ performance is in The Simpsons.

That was great.

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DuckDharma  May 16, 2017 • 10:12:33am

“Legendary triumph” Haaaaaa

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:13:28am

TBH I find it sad Woods wants to make his rep as that wingnut actor.

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electrotek  May 16, 2017 • 10:14:20am

I wish Apu never saved his ass from Snake at the Kwik-e-Mart

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:14:35am

re: #442 DuckDharma

“Legendary triumph” Haaaaaa

Oh yes when the spoonfed multi millionaire best a woman, just one of the great underdog stories ever!

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:16:29am

I had a really weird dream about bonding with Limbaugh over Steelers football. I could talk to GW Bush without getting angry but Rush would test me even though Bush had more negative impact.

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 16, 2017 • 10:17:44am

re: #443 HappyWarrior

TBH I find it sad Woods wants to make his rep as that wingnut actor.

I’m with you, what the hell happened to that guy.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2017 • 10:17:48am

re: #438 HappyWarrior

He’s not a bad actor imo. Just seems the range is limited but I do need to see more.

Dig up Citizen Cohn.

It was a made for TV movie, but since it has a lot of history of the Joe McCarthy period and you being into history, I think you would enjoy it. Woods was pretty good at capturing the sleaze of Roy Cohn.

I sometimes think now the reason Woods was good is he didn’t really have to act.

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 10:18:14am
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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 10:18:26am

Next time the capitalism will provide greater efficiencies right wingers talk, remind them that the opposite occurred with health insurance.

Private insurers bilked the government out of billions of dollars in improper payments via Medicaid Advantage.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 10:18:33am
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:18:58am

re: #447 (alpuz)

I’m with you, what the hell happened to that guy.

9/11 I believe. I don’t know what his views were pre 9/11 but he’s become a total dick since.

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 10:19:03am

re: #449 darthstar

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:19:17am

re: #448 ObserverArt

Dig up Citizen Cohn.

It was a made for TV movie, but since it has a lot of history of the Joe McCarthy period and you being into history, I think you would enjoy it. Woods was pretty good at capturing the sleaze of Roy Cohn.

I sometimes think now the reason Woods was good is he didn’t really have to act.

Need to see that.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 10:20:12am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

9/11 I believe. I don’t know what his views were pre 9/11 but he’s become a total dick since.

IIRC he was a passenger in the first class cabin when the hijackers made a dry run.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:20:27am

re: #449 darthstar

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So much for him being the smart one.

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DuckDharma  May 16, 2017 • 10:21:53am

Can’t roll my eyes hard enough. They will be hoping over and over that he finally “gets it” as this shitshow speeds closer and closer to the bottom.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:22:06am

re: #455 The Vicious Babushka

IIRC he was a passenger in the first class cabin when the hijackers made a dry run.

It was something like that I believe.

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 10:22:26am

re: #455 The Vicious Babushka

IIRC he was a passenger in the first class cabin when the hijackers made a dry run.

Yep, beat me to it:
snopes.com

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:22:54am

re: #457 DuckDharma

Can’t roll my eyes hard enough. They will be hoping over and over that he finally “gets it” as this shitshow speeds closer and closer to the bottom.

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He doesn’t get it now, he honestly never will.

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 10:23:18am

re: #456 HappyWarrior

So much for him being the smart one.

We need you to be the voice of reason in this administration…

Voice of reason…for THIS Administration? Fuck it. Where do I give up my dignity?

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 10:24:34am

re: #457 DuckDharma

Can’t roll my eyes hard enough. They will be hoping over and over that he finally “gets it” as this shitshow speeds closer and closer to the bottom.

There is nothing Democrats can do right now except prod.

Edit: Now, if a Republican were to say that, that would be interesting.

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2017 • 10:26:18am

re: #442 DuckDharma

“Legendary triumph” Haaaaaa

Possibly a translation issue. This guy is fluent in Turkish, but does not work as a translator (he’s a journalist):

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 10:27:19am

re: #463 wrenchwench

Possibly a translation issue. This guy is fluent in Turkish, but does not work as a translator (he’s a journalist):

Biggest landslide since Rutherford B. Hayes.

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 10:29:42am

re: #463 wrenchwench

Possibly a translation issue. This guy is fluent in Turkish, but does not work as a translator (he’s a journalist):

“He was the first white man to win the presidency after a black man. He also beat a woman. Very historic.”

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 10:30:58am

re: #465 Belafon

“He was the first white man to win the presidency after a black man. He also beat a woman. Very historic.”

First bankrupt casino owner to lose the popular vote.

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 10:32:03am

re: #466 Sir John Barron

First bankrupt casino owner to lose the popular vote.

Lost the popular vote by the widest margin of any electoral college winner.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 16, 2017 • 10:32:29am

I do hope that the unnamed ally with the ISIS mole has managed to save their asset. If we had real journalists, one of them might ask this directly at the next press conference.

Nah, on second thought it might backfire. Trump might say something like, “Since he is the only MIT grad they have, ISIS was likely to keep trusting him so he was left in place. Smart place, MIT, the smartest.”

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2017 • 10:32:39am

re: #455 The Vicious Babushka

IIRC he was a passenger in the first class cabin when the hijackers made a dry run.

That’s what I recall as well.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 10:33:54am

Bullshit Spice(r) is being replaced with an upgraded bullshit artist?

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Major Tom  May 16, 2017 • 10:34:31am
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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 10:34:45am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 10:36:51am
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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 10:37:12am

FDre: #470 lawhawk

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Bullshit Spice(r) is being replaced with an upgraded bullshit artist?

Reports say she has better legs than Spicer.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 10:39:03am

Ding ding ding… The ally whose source was burned was… Israel.

That’s gonna get awkward with his buddy Bibi. Bibi can’t just sweep it under the rug, because Israeli national security was compromised as a result, and it puts them in harm’s way.

But he also can’t completely shut off the flow of intel, because Israel relies so heavily on the US for foreign aid.

At the same time, the US keeps acting dickish towards Israel, which again serves as a reminder that all the things Trump claimed Clinton would do are the things Trump is actually doing with Israel. Trump sold out Israel’s national security to the Russians.

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Teukka  May 16, 2017 • 10:39:08am

re: #473 The Vicious Babushka

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Christ *headdesks*

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 10:39:15am
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jaunte  May 16, 2017 • 10:43:09am
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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 10:43:20am
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Shiplord Kirel  May 16, 2017 • 10:45:56am
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:46:08am

re: #477 Dr. Matt

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Haha no they won’t.

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2017 • 10:46:12am

re: #478 jaunte

One person on Reddit figured out the repercussions. And it explained it better than I could, I have to say.

Here is why this is significant. Everyone was saying, “well, Russia and the US have aligned interests in fighting ISIS, why is this an issue?”

Sure, but while that is accurate, Russia is the close ally of Iran, Israels greatest geopolitical foe. So now Russia has insight into Israel’s intelligence gathering apparatus and can pass that information along to Iran. This is absolutely a worst case scenario.

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jaunte  May 16, 2017 • 10:46:41am
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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 10:48:04am

So, which political hack is left in the running?

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 10:48:56am

re: #484 FormerDirtDart

So, which political hack is left in the running?

Hadn’t realized he was in.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 10:49:26am

re: #482 Dr Lizardo

Worse than that.

Israel faces off against Syria, Hizbullah, Hamas, and IS, along with Iran (at distance). Russia passes intel off to Assad in Syria plus Iran. That eventually ends up in the hands of Hizbullah and Hamas, which seriously degrades Israel’s national security.

This is the kind of thing that puts Israel into a crisis mode, because one of their key advantages in the region is the ability to get intel no one else can from places no one else has assets.

And if Israel loses an asset stream, that means the US and NATO lose an asset stream. That’s got deadly repercussions.

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jaunte  May 16, 2017 • 10:50:23am

re: #484 FormerDirtDart

Cornyn’s still looking forward to working for Texans. He’ll get started any day now.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 10:50:24am

re: #483 jaunte

But is Trump mentioning radical Islamic terrorism?

Because that’s how you win the war. //////

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2017 • 10:51:08am

re: #486 lawhawk

Worse than that.

Israel faces off against Syria, Hizbullah, Hamas, and IS, along with Iran (at distance). Russia passes intel off to Assad in Syria plus Iran. That eventually ends up in the hands of Hizbullah and Hamas, which seriously degrades Israel’s national security.

This is the kind of thing that puts Israel into a crisis mode, because one of their key advantages in the region is the ability to get intel no one else can from places no one else has assets.

And if Israel loses an asset stream, that means the US and NATO lose an asset stream. That’s got deadly repercussions.

That’s a bingo!

That’s how you say that, right?

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 10:51:12am

re: #472 Dr. Matt

Just 7 days after accusing Comey of being a “showboat”, Trump acts like a showboat to his Russian masters while spilling state secrets.

More moles than a season of 24.

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2017 • 10:51:25am
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sagehen  May 16, 2017 • 10:52:23am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

9/11 I believe. I don’t know what his views were pre 9/11 but he’s become a total dick since.

That’s also what happened to Dennis Miller.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2017 • 10:52:54am

re: #492 sagehen

That’s also what happened to Dennis Miller.

It is.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 10:54:10am

re: #489 Dr Lizardo

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Teukka  May 16, 2017 • 10:55:25am

re: #478 jaunte

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Skip Intro  May 16, 2017 • 10:56:23am

re: #495 Teukka

But with Trump they’ll make an exception, because everybody makes exceptions for Trump.

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2017 • 10:56:48am
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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 10:56:54am

re: #484 FormerDirtDart

So, which political hack is left in the running?

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Teukka  May 16, 2017 • 10:57:21am

re: #496 Skip Intro

But with Trump they’ll make an exception, because everybody makes exceptions for Trump.

*lays on floor, clutching stomach, giggling hysterically*

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 10:58:30am

re: #492 sagehen

That’s also what happened to Dennis Miller.

Liberals/Democrats that turn into wingnuts seem to possess a special extra layer of frothy assholism, e.g., Dennis Miller, Trump, Tammy Bruce, Weiner-Savage, James Woods, etc.

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2017 • 10:58:38am

Chuck C. Johnson and Pax Dickinson have split up. Dickinson is bragging that they got a “7-figure check” from somewhere.

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sagehen  May 16, 2017 • 10:59:24am

re: #501 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson and Pax Dickinson have split up. Dickinson is bragging that they got a “7-figure check” from somewhere.

My guess? Peter Thiel.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 16, 2017 • 10:59:25am

Intelligence sharing has always been a crucial aspect of the US relationship with Israel. It is a very important partial quid pro quo for US aid, and that was true even before the formal security relationship started after the Six Day War. In fact, the loot from that war was probably the greatest technical intelligence coup since World War II and a very sore point with the Soviets and their successors to this day.
The Truth about Area 51: Project Have Doughnut and the Israeli connection. (see comments as well)

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jaunte  May 16, 2017 • 10:59:48am

re: #501 Charles Johnson

Dickinson is bragging that they got a “7-figure check” from somewhere.

Routing number?

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electrotek  May 16, 2017 • 11:00:41am

re: #503 Shiplord Kirel

Intelligence sharing has always been a crucial aspect of the US relationship with Israel. It is a very important partial quid pro quo for US aid, and that was true even before the formal security relationship started after the Six Day War. In fact, the loot from that war was probably the greatest technical intelligence since World War II and a very sore point with the Soviets and their successors to this day.
The Truth about Area 51: Project Have Doughnut and the Israeli connection. (see comments as well)

Yep. And even the most anti-Israel person can at least understand that, of all things.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 11:01:02am

re: #496 Skip Intro

But with Trump they’ll make an exception, because everybody makes exceptions for Trump.

Israel can’t afford to make an exception. Israel’s national security is one of those nonpartisan lines for them. Bibi might try to give Trump cover, but the Mossad isn’t so forgiving.

Nothing short of catching Trump on video taking money from Putin will be enough for the Trump/GOP supporters who think this is all a game (Deep State) nonsense. Even then, they’ll question the timing.

All the while, Trump’s compromised and possibly permanently damaged US and Israeli intel streams from the Middle East for a long time to come. That has deadly consequences.

Trump the friend of Israel? He just hung them out to dry.
Trump is Bibi’s friend? He just fucked over Bibi.
Trump is a friend of Jews? He just compromised Israel’s national security.

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2017 • 11:01:17am
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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2017 • 11:02:14am

Here’s Pax’s tweetstorm.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 11:04:05am

Someone give Cosby’s PR team a hand, because they figured out a way to slip that under the radar with the nonstop Trump shit show.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 11:04:19am

re: #501 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson and Pax Dickinson have split up. Dickinson is bragging that they got a “7-figure check” from somewhere.

Someone should inform them that 7-figures in Pakistani Rupees is less than 10K USD.

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darthstar  May 16, 2017 • 11:04:31am
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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 11:05:46am

re: #511 darthstar

“A lot of Muslims voted for me. I got the most Muslim votes.”

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Alephnaught  May 16, 2017 • 11:06:24am

re: #484 FormerDirtDart

So, which political hack is left in the running?

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Hmm, I wonder if even the not so competent hacks are regarding the head of FBI, given recent events, as a position with a huge neon sign above it, saying: “POISONED CHALICE”.

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Timothy Watson  May 16, 2017 • 11:06:54am

re: #508 Charles Johnson

Here’s Pax’s tweetstorm.

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He was removed as a Director on their California corporation registration in April.

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jaunte  May 16, 2017 • 11:06:58am

2 p.m.

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr says he has yet to get an explanation from the White House on what happened in the Oval Office meeting where the president reportedly shared classified information with the Russians.

Burr says he waited all morning to get a call from someone in the room who can tell him what happened. He says: “Maybe they’re busy.”

Burr tells a small group of reporters in the Capitol that: “My major concern right now is that I don’t know what the president said.”

Burr added: “I’d like to think somebody from the White House who was in the room is going to get on the phone and tell me what they said.”
apnews.com

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Skip Intro  May 16, 2017 • 11:07:07am

re: #506 lawhawk

Well maybe they gave the US bad intel because they were worried about leaks. Imagine their surprise when the big leaker turned out to be tRump.

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2017 • 11:08:08am

re: #511 darthstar

“Are you people the Soonis or the Shiites? You could combine them and get Shootes.”

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Skip Intro  May 16, 2017 • 11:08:33am

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 11:08:35am
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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 11:08:52am

re: #516 Skip Intro

A canary trap? Doubt it.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 11:09:07am

re: #512 Sir John Barron

“A lot of Muslims voted for me. I got the most Muslim votes.”

“Aahla. Great guy. You know, terrific guy. Smart. Great mind. We have a terrific relationship”.

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Skip Intro  May 16, 2017 • 11:09:40am

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 11:11:01am

re: #515 jaunte

Wasn’t it reported yesterday that someone on the Intel committee was briefed?

If Burr didn’t get it and Warner didn’t get it, who received the briefing?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2017 • 11:11:54am

Hey Chuck Johnson
Chuck Johnson
He take Pax money and run Venezuela

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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 11:11:55am

re: #515 jaunte

“But, it’s not like I have any authority to start an investigation. I’m not in a coequal branch or anything like that. So, I’ll just have to wait.”

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Skip Intro  May 16, 2017 • 11:11:58am

The artist has Kellyanne captured perfectly.

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 11:12:28am
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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 11:13:18am
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Belafon  May 16, 2017 • 11:13:26am

re: #519 FormerDirtDart

Just think classifieds in the newspaper, just think classifieds in the newspaper. - Corker to himself.

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Dr. Matt  May 16, 2017 • 11:14:12am
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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2017 • 11:14:14am

re: #528 lawhawk

For Russia With Love.

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Teukka  May 16, 2017 • 11:14:26am

re: #528 lawhawk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2017 • 11:16:26am

re: #532 Teukka

Casino Fecale

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 11:16:48am

Isn’t it tea time?

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lawhawk  May 16, 2017 • 11:17:35am

re: #532 Teukka

License to Lie #BondTrumpBond

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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2017 • 11:18:38am

re: #497 wrenchwench

I can’t follow any more people!! Hit 5K limit.

Need to thin the herd.

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jaunte  May 16, 2017 • 11:18:50am

Tomorrow Other Lies #BondTrumpBond

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makeitstop  May 16, 2017 • 11:20:45am

On Putin’s Secret Service #BondTrumpBond

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FormerDirtDart  May 16, 2017 • 11:22:43am
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jaunte  May 16, 2017 • 11:23:11am

DUNDERBALL #BondTrumpBond


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