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FormerDirtDart  Sep 6, 2017 • 6:56:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:02:21pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart

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Hahaha. Love it when you they cannibalize each other.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:02:43pm
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jaunte  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:03:34pm

Speaking of mental health…

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:03:46pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart

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Did everyone catch the “reach a deal with Dimms” in the scripting going on as Dobbs yaks it out?

Right around 1:15 in.

So cute Fox.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:04:41pm

Keith this is not complicated. It’s humiliating. We can’t really face we fucked up so bad.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:05:52pm

re: #4 jaunte

Speaking of mental health…

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Go for it Bill.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:07:05pm
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majii  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:08:46pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart

In re: Dobbs
What hole has Dobbs been hiding in since Ryan first entered Congress in 1999? Ryan is, and has always been, a product of the MSM. For some unknown reason, Ryan was given the title of “policy wonk” by the MSM. He has few, if any, real legislative accomplishments. His most prominent accomplishment, imho, has been knowing who to suck up to in the GOP and when. He’s making noise about the Trump-Schumer-Pelosi debt limit/short-term budget extension/Harvey agreement, but it means nothing. If these items are the only things that are in the next bill, Ryan will fall in line and vote for it, so he needs to sit down, shut up and stop blustering.

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whitebeach  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:11:26pm

Going OT early but not to start some kind of thread. I just want to thank the lizards, I remember Decatur Deb and maybe BeachDem but there were others, who encouraged me to get the cataract surgery when I was turning a little shaky about it.

It’s all over now and I can freakin SEE again. Can read anything down to ten-point type without glasses, and nine-point in good light. Plus I spend lots of time doing things like picking out individual leaves and blades of grass eighty feet away when what I was seeing before was this green cloud. Impressionist landscapes are lovely in frames on the wall or in dreams, but they’re not so hot every waking hour.

Anyway, thanks to all.

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:14:08pm
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freetoken  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:15:56pm
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freetoken  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:16:54pm

The GOP specializes in denial.

Which is why they don’t question Trump’s fitness for office.

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freetoken  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:18:03pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:18:33pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:18:57pm

I had this awkward moment at work today. A Hispanic co worker was expressing the sense of raw betrayal he feels at the DACA mess. I was embarrassed as an American and as a white guy and as a fellow human to think yes we did this. We do bear collective responsibility as a country.

I’m getting really really tired of the President after Obama killing our brand to help and profit his own. Of feeling embarrassed at my origin among decent people from other nations. Of the helpless feeling only offset a little by some court ruling holding him back.

I’m happy he betrayed the GOP. Please continue. His administrations end will come via some quarter. Maybe not an expected one.

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freetoken  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:19:36pm
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prairiefire  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:21:55pm

re: #10 whitebeach

Good deal!

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:22:04pm

re: #14 freetoken

JFC

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:23:17pm

Something familiar,
Something peculiar,
Something for everyone:
A comedy tonight!

— Stephen Sondheim

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:25:19pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

Lots of bad info out there about Barbudas. Surge was 9ft. Communication was lost for about 14 hours. 90% of the island devastated and uninhabitable, only 1 confirmed death so far.

Communication was lost at about 12:30am. Landfall was at about 1:45am.

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Teukka  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:27:53pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

JFC

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I’ve heard people say that #Irma is really a 6 or 7 kitteh ‘cane, if the scale continued in the same increments.

JFC +1

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:28:28pm

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Teukka  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:28:53pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

JFC

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:31:39pm
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meteor  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:31:56pm

I live north of Tampa. The forecasts now say Irma will take a bit of a shank to the east.

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Teukka  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:33:18pm

re: #26 meteor

I live north of Tampa. The forecasts now say Irma will take a bit of a shank to the east.

“A bit”???!

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:34:43pm

Should have been “turtle-lipped silence.”

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:35:18pm

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:35:44pm

Yeere: #22 Teukka

I’ve heard people say that #Irma is really a 6 or 7 kitteh ‘cane, if the scale continued in the same increments.

JFC +1

I heard a weatherman on MSNBC say Irma can be thought as having an F-5 tornado inside that is 40 miles wide at the eye, and it will be doing a lot of damage if it keeps that intensity. That is 260 mph (418 km/h) wind speeds.

One famous F5 tornado tore the crap out of a smallish city in Ohio…Xenia. Blew it up.

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:37:46pm

re: #28 jaunte

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Should have been “turtle-lipped silence.”

In the ol’ shell.

And not coming out.

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:39:08pm
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De Kolta Chair  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:39:27pm

“Trump Makes Deal With Dems; Pisses Off GOP”

His actual tramp stamp is ↓ Open For Big Business 24/7 ↓

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:39:34pm

re: #25 Kragar

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I joke with my kids sometimes that I’ve found their girlfriends. That would be the girl I want for my youngest.

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whitebeach  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:49:01pm

re: #32 Kragar

Aw, man, I saw that on NBC, the cop cam in the car caught her escape, and while I don’t necessarily condone shoplifting (at least not now that I’m old), a voice came into my brain from its wilder and better past shouting “Run, Bambi, run!”

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:49:02pm

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:49:41pm

re: #33 De Kolta Chair

He’s got “My name is Donnie” tattooed in Cyrillic, upside down across his shoulder blades.

Think about it…

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:51:00pm

re: #37 Kragar

He’s got “My name is Donnie” tattooed in Cyrillic, upside down across his shoulder blades.

Think about it…

It does save him from having to talk with his mouth full.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:54:03pm

Been watching a drive-in era icon on Amazon, The Giant Gila Monster, from 1958. This features classic hot rods, sweater girls, and a toy train being wrecked by a real lizard. The Amazon version features additional cheese in the form of rather amateurish colorization. The acting is not all bad; veteran character actors Fred Graham and Shug Fisher provide some much needed professionalism as the local sheriff and the town drunk respectively.
The movie was shot in the Dallas area. It was in fact financed by Dallas radio and drive-in movie tycoon Gordon McLendon, who apparently wasn’t satisfied with Hollywood monster fare. The actual producer was none other than Ken Curtis, later famous as Festus on Gunsmoke. It was shot back to back with another monster cheese icon, The Killer Shrews.

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Teukka  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:54:14pm

I have had an issue over the past couple of days…
When I click “New Comments”, I get the spinner constantly and nothing happens.
Not regularly, but enough times to cause a nuisance when I have to reload the page.

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Interesting Times  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:55:18pm

Hey, why should color charts be the only ones to get something new… :/

Facebook Post

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:55:21pm
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jaunte  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:57:12pm
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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 7:57:51pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

It also featured the iconic “leg up” position.

A Leg Up

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:00:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:01:24pm

re: #43 jaunte

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“He’s too unrealistic. Come on Tim, Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, who names their kid that?”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:04:07pm

Not like I care but I found out an old lefty acquaintance blocked me on FB. Wow. Talk about petty. Never went after him fir his views. Just had the audacity not to be as lefty as I once was when we knew each other.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:04:27pm

re: #26 meteor

I live north of Tampa. The forecasts now say Irma will take a bit of a shank to the east.

My step-father just called from Chicago, worried about my son in Jacksonville.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:05:46pm

“And there’s a moment where he jokes that he liked the KKK before he heard some of them smoked weed.. Get out of my office. This is too cartoonish.”

“But sir….”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:10:21pm

re: #25 Kragar

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I love that girl flipping the bird to that asshole from InfoWHORES!

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whitebeach  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:12:25pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Been watching a drive-in era icon on Amazon, The Giant Gila Monster, from 1958. This features classic hot rods, sweater girls, and a toy train being wrecked by a real lizard. The Amazon version features additional cheese in the form of rather amateurish colorization. The acting is not all bad; veteran character actors Fred Graham and Shug Fisher provide some much needed professionalism as the local sheriff and the town drunk respectively.
The movie was shot in the Dallas area. It was in fact financed by Dallas radio and drive-in movie tycoon Gordon McLendon, who apparently wasn’t satisfied with Hollywood monster fare. The actual producer was none other than Ken Curtis, later famous as Festus on Gunsmoke. It was shot back to back with another monster cheese icon, The Killer Shrews.

Oh man stop it. This is a trip down teenage lane. Don’t think I ever saw Gila Monster, but Killer Shrews was the thing with German shepherds fitted with fake six-inch fangs. And Gordon McClendon started the first actual rock-n-roll radio station in my hometown. Jesus, time to open the better rum.

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:16:42pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:17:53pm

Ended up going with the Mediterranean salad and it came out quite good.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:18:11pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Been watching a drive-in era icon on Amazon, The Giant Gila Monster, from 1958. This features classic hot rods, sweater girls, and a toy train being wrecked by a real lizard. The Amazon version features additional cheese in the form of rather amateurish colorization. The acting is not all bad; veteran character actors Fred Graham and Shug Fisher provide some much needed professionalism as the local sheriff and the town drunk respectively.
The movie was shot in the Dallas area. It was in fact financed by Dallas radio and drive-in movie tycoon Gordon McLendon, who apparently wasn’t satisfied with Hollywood monster fare. The actual producer was none other than Ken Curtis, later famous as Festus on Gunsmoke. It was shot back to back with another monster cheese icon, The Killer Shrews.

Oh, I remember watching both of those films on WIIC Pittsburgh’s Chiller Theater when I was a kid. And I have very treasured memories of the host Chilly Billy goofing on both films!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:20:44pm

re: #52 Kragar

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This just gets weirder and weirder.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:21:20pm

MST3K vs. The Killer Shrews!

MST3K 0407 Attack of the Killer Shrews

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:22:41pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:33:32pm

The Dems should not gloat over Trump’s “cave-in” to Schumer and Pelosi. He is just as likely to reverse his policy tomorrow if he doesn’t like the news coverage he receives. This is a man with no loyalty to anyone except himself. Our only hope is that he remains alienated from the GOP leadership; cooperation between them will damage chances for the future of this country.

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:34:07pm

The best MST3k ever made “Last of the Wild Horses” featuring alternate reality Dr Forester and TV’s Frank

MST3k - 611

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:37:36pm
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ckkatz  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:39:11pm

re: #54 Joe Bacon 🌹

Heh, I remember Chilly Billy Cardile, “Nosmo” King, and the Pittsburgh Subway System ‘PSS’.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:40:43pm

re: #52 Kragar

Wow. I had no idea how big Russian Birth Tourism actually was until reading that.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:44:28pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:44:48pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:44:56pm

re: #25 Kragar

I really wish she would have said “Youbdid! Don’t you remember?” when he asked who taught her that language.

Fucking snowflake; he needs a fainting couch. Oh mah garsch. The language! I dew de-kla-ah.

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ckkatz  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:46:46pm

re: #26 meteor

I was just checking some things for my brother and his family.

You probably know all this, but here is some of what I found:

fl511.com provides a summary of Florida’s road conditions. There are already reports of traffic jams on I-75.

Pinellas County has an evacuation map on their Emergency Management Site. While my brothers family lives on high ground, they would become an island surrounded by flooded areas. Not sure how that would affect emergency evacuation, emergency rescue, or even public services like electricity, water and sewage.

pinellascounty.org

Brevard County has a neat interactive map of the entire state defining areas they ‘recommend’ evacuating in the case of a tropical cyclone:

brevardfl.gov

Best wishes, and thoughts and prayers to you and all the Florida and neighboring lizards!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:46:49pm

re: #28 jaunte

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Should have been “turtle-lipped silence.”

my heart just bleeds for them, it does

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:48:19pm

re: #30 ObserverArt

Yee

I heard a weatherman on MSNBC say Irma can be thought as having an F-5 tornado inside that is 40 miles wide at the eye, and it will be doing a lot of damage if it keeps that intensity. That is 260 mph (418 km/h) wind speeds.

One famous F5 tornado tore the crap out of a smallish city in Ohio…Xenia. Blew it up.

I had a friend from Xenia who lived through that. I saw pictures. Such devastation.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:49:14pm

Nice. I claim this comment #69 for myself. Nice.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:49:55pm

Bit o’ trivia — During the 1920’s, a politician who parted his hair down the middle was once mistaken for H.L. Mencken. “No,” he replied, “I’m just a congressman.”

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Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:51:45pm
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jaunte  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:58:52pm

re: #70 De Kolta Chair

Trey Gowdy’s grandpappy?

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 6, 2017 • 8:59:17pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart

I mean, not that I care, but that is some hight level mental gymnastics there.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:01:02pm

who was it, now, who, thinking perhaps of trump, said that all that was required of the next republican president was enough digits to hold a pen?

well donnie sure fooled em. turns out that if you elect a three year old he eats the pen and pisses on your $4000 suit

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electrotek  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:01:11pm
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The Spite House  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:02:50pm
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jaunte  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:03:18pm

Should be a lot of laughs.

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dell*nix  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:03:32pm

re: #43 jaunte

Evil little toad.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:04:43pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

1) Mnuchin’s wife’s first name is Louise, not Laura.
2) Her last acting gig was in the very aptly named Rules Don’t Apply.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:05:08pm

re: #61 ckkatz

Heh, I remember Chilly Billy Cardile, “Nosmo” King, and the Pittsburgh Subway System ‘PSS’.

I loved Paul Shannon.

Remember when the Three Stooges would visit him on Adventure Time?

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:05:56pm

re: #79 De Kolta Chair

1) Mnuchin’s wife’s first name is Louise, not Laura.
2) Her last acting gig was in the aptly named Rules Don’t Apply.

Is that the woman from the ball gown magazine article?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:08:54pm

re: #81 MsJ

Is that the woman from the ball gown magazine article?

Our own Marie Antoinette, who got to see the gold at fort knox. And the eclipse from the roof.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:11:24pm

re: #81 MsJ

Is that the woman from the ball gown magazine article?

Do I strike you as someone who subscribes to ball gown magazines?

Criminy, I get that all the time!

へ[ ᴼ ▃ ᴼ ]_/¯

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:12:30pm

re: #83 De Kolta Chair

Do I strike you as someone who subscribes to ball gown magazines?

“Ballers”

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:14:25pm

WTF is wrong with Peggy Noonan?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:14:40pm

re: #51 whitebeach

Oh man stop it. This is a trip down teenage lane. Don’t think I ever saw Gila Monster, but Killer Shrews was the thing with German shepherds fitted with fake six-inch fangs. And Gordon McClendon started the first actual rock-n-roll radio station in my hometown. Jesus, time to open the better rum.

Check this out.

Svengoolie The Killer Shrews Opening

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:15:08pm

Oh boy.

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:15:13pm

“Figures in a moral struggle.”
“Which side?”

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:15:55pm

re: #85 jaunte

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WTF is wrong with Peggy Noonan?

She’s sober.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:18:22pm

re: #85 jaunte

WTF is wrong with Peggy Noonan?

She’s Peggy Noonan.

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ckkatz  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:18:53pm

re: #80 Joe Bacon 🌹

I loved Paul Shannon.

Remember when the Three Stooges would visit him on Adventure Time?

Wow! You just caused a journey back into the 1960’s of my Pittsburgh childhood. And our family’s black and white 19” tv with 13 channels. Of which ?4? (2,4,11 and 13) were populated at that time.

Yup, Paul Shannon was apparently one of the folks who revived the Three Stooges for our (baby boomer) generation. I seem to remember that he even appeared in one of their films.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:19:54pm

re: #85 jaunte

See reply to retweet ratio.

lol

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:20:51pm

re: #85 jaunte

WTF is wrong with Peggy Noonan?

Booze doesn’t grow on trees?

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:22:36pm

re: #85 jaunte

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WTF is wrong with Peggy Noonan?

Zombie Reagan broke up with her.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:27:08pm

re: #85 jaunte

“A shonda”

WTF is wrong with Peggy Noonan?

what kind of a shock would make peggy noonan of all people suddenly speak yiddish?!?

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:29:34pm

Pennsylvania Congressman confirms he had extramarital affair

A Pennsylvania congressman is confirming he had an extramarital affair with a personal friend, a relationship that became public as part of another couple’s divorce proceedings.

Republican Rep. Tim Murphy issued a statement Wednesday through his lawyer saying the affair took place last year and it’s “nobody’s fault but my own.”

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says the disclosure came after the newspaper obtained a court order to unseal the other couple’s divorce action.

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BeachDem  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:31:10pm

re: #10 whitebeach

Going OT early but not to start some kind of thread. I just want to thank the lizards, I remember Decatur Deb and maybe BeachDem but there were others, who encouraged me to get the cataract surgery when I was turning a little shaky about it.

It’s all over now and I can freakin SEE again. Can read anything down to ten-point type without glasses, and nine-point in good light. Plus I spend lots of time doing things like picking out individual leaves and blades of grass eighty feet away when what I was seeing before was this green cloud. Impressionist landscapes are lovely in frames on the wall or in dreams, but they’re not so hot every waking hour.

Anyway, thanks to all.

Funny you should post this today. I had my surgery 2 (?) years ago, and it was amazing. Going from “can’t find my glasses without my glasses” to incredible ability to see with no correction.

The reason today makes it funny is that I had some clouding/film (can’t remember the specific term) post-surgery. Some in each eye, and then again this summer in my right eye. Fixed beautifully with laser procedure (quick and easy, in the office) and just had it done again on my right eye this morning, so back to clear, great vision again.

So, if your vision ever gets a little cloudy, don’t panic—it is easily corrected.

Glad you went ahead and did it.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:33:02pm
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De Kolta Chair  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:33:48pm

‘Night lizarati.

Btw, that anecdote I posted earlier was from William Manchester’s 1951 biography, “Disturber of the Peace; The Life of H.L. Mencken,” unearthed yesterday in the dusty nether regions of my bookshelves. More comprehensive biographies of the Sage of Baltimore have been published since, but imho this is the most fun to read.

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:36:29pm

So had to pick up my daughter from band practice about 20 minutes ago. Radio was still set to the station I listen to for traffic, but the show airing now is apparently called “Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis”

The topic under discussion: Trump pulled out of the Paris Accords, which angered liberal, and liberals are climate scientists, who are climate engineers. Think about that.

Now, we have major hurricanes hitting Texas and Florida, both states with backed Trump. Think about that.

But they wanted to be clear that they were not spreading conspiracy theories.

Think about that.

WTF is wrong with these fucking morons?

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BeachDem  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:36:58pm

re: #17 freetoken

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Ed Piotrowski WPDE
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Via Jonathan Falwell on St Martin: No power, no water, everything destroyed. Buildings gone. Please pray as this island is decimated.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:37:35pm

Totally Normal Lady Says You Only Hate Trump Because Ben Sasse Was Denny Hastert’s Gay Pimp (Wonkette, with video, more at the link):

You’d never guess this woman is a religious wingnut on a religious programme. Ben Sasse (R) may be a freshman senator but he is quite conservative and party-oriented. While he did come out February 2016 and declare he could not support then-candidate Donald Trump, he has pretty much voted the party line since Trump won the Electoral College.

She is Liz Crokin (who I never heard of before I looked her up); her Twitter channel comes up as the number one item on Ixquick, followed by Town Hall calling her “an award-winning journalist and author,” followed by her Facebook page, followed by four posts by her at Right Wing Watch where she goes in on Pizzagate, Seth Rich, claims she is a sex-crime victim advocate, and satanic child abuse rings.

Fits right in to Christian hate radio I guess. The video show simply describes her as a “journalist” with no further clarification in the videos.

She is now going after so-called Never-Trumpers, liberals, and Ben Sasse:

Were we not just learning that the only reason people hate Donald Trump is because they are being Satan-washed in their brains by special radio frequencies? OK, well that is still very FACTCHECK TRUE, but Right Wing Watch flags another one of the reasons you hate Donald Trump. According to a not-at-all crazy lady named Liz Crokin, who exists (ALLEGEDLY), part of the reason people hate Trump, especially #NeverTrump Republicans, is because they are all big #PizzaGaters. MORE SPECIFICALLY, she is just pretty sure you and everybody else hate Trump because Nebraska GOP Senator Ben Sasse used to use himself as a sexxx lure to bait underage boys to Omaha, so that Denny Hastert could travel from Illinois to Omaha, for the purposes of doing underage sex to them. Or something like that. We are not entirely clear?

… and …

Crokin encouraged viewers to “look very closely at the people who are screaming the loudest, complaining about President Trump” because “every single one of those people, you’ll find—because I’ve researched all these scumbags—you will find that all of these people have ties to sex trafficking rings, ties to pedophilia, ties to pedophiles.”

(more)

I dive into the swill of religious hate radio so you guys don’t have to … it’s what I do since I live around it every day.

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whitebeach  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:41:35pm

re: #97 BeachDem

The reason today makes it funny is that I had some clouding/film (can’t remember the specific term) post-surgery. Some in each eye, and then again this summer in my right eye. Fixed beautifully with laser procedure (quick and easy, in the office) and just had it done again on my right eye this morning, so back to clear, great vision again.

So, if your vision ever gets a little cloudy, don’t panic—it is easily corrected.

I went ahead and did the laser thing from the start, and you’re right, it’s amazingly easy, painless, almost fun (especially with the relaxation juice). Glad yours worked out again, and I’ll remember your advice if I get cloudy/filmy. I really thank you.

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whitebeach  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:44:38pm

re: #101 BeachDem

Ed Piotrowski WPDE
1 hr *
Via Jonathan Falwell on St Martin: No power, no water, everything destroyed. Buildings gone. Please pray as this island is decimated.

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Breaks my heart, remembering the Mississippi coast as it looked circa 9/1/05.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:46:04pm

re: #75 electrotek

Silicon Valley conservatives lie low

Tl;dr.

Not terribly concerned about supporters of racism, bigotry, and the death of fellow citizens so they can get tax cuts. They’re just bigots in fancier clothes and cars.

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BeachDem  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:47:37pm

re: #77 jaunte

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Should be a lot of laughs.

And meatloaf.

(Maybe they’ll crank up some Rage Against the Machine for bg music)

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:49:14pm

re: #82 Stanley Sea

Our own Marie Antoinette, who got to see the gold at fort knox. And the eclipse from the roof.

And attacked a regular citizen on Twitter in a tirade worthy of Trump when that citizen called out her glamour shots coming off a government plane afterwards tweeting hashtags to expensive designer clothes and accessories.

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:49:42pm

re: #100 Kragar

How the fuck does this man have a career peddling this shit?

Clyde Lewis

Lewis, talks about the possibility of numerous conspiracies and supernatural phenomena.[1] In a 2012 interview Lewis said beings from outer space have come to earth and “They are here to eat us…We are being farmed for our organs.”[2] He also believes the moon landing in 1969 was faked.[2] Lewis says President Barack Obama was born in Africa and is therefore not eligible to be president of the United States. He says that Obama “was conceived during a CIA operation” to infiltrate “communists” because “communists were black at that time.”[2] President George W. Bush was also a project of intelligence agencies, having been subjected to mind control in order to turn him into a “Manchurian candidate,” according to Lewis.[3] Lewis speaks positively of Russian President Vladimir Putin, as reflected on his Ground Zero website: “Vladimir Putin has been instrumental in rebelling against the hostile encroachment of the World Government and has challenged Barack Obama on his decisions to embrace the new World Order.”[4]

Lewis regularly cites weather control by the government or “rogue scientists” to manipulate global politics, once suggesting that Hurricane Sandy was created to help Obama by delaying the 2012 presidential election.[5] He says Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, “has every chance of being the Anti-Christ” and claims Men in Black once bombed his car “to scare him”

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BeachDem  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:49:44pm

re: #85 jaunte

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WTF is wrong with Peggy Noonan?

Had we but world enough and time…

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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:50:47pm

re: #101 BeachDem

Ed Piotrowski WPDE
1 hr *
Via Jonathan Falwell on St Martin: No power, no water, everything destroyed. Buildings gone. Please pray as this island is decimated.

[Embedded content]

Well, shit. That’s disastrous. The only thing that keeps those islands solvent is beaches, sun, and hotel rooms.

A lot of government money from the French, English, US, and Dutch governments are going to be needed to keep those folks alive.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:51:20pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

See reply to retweet ratio.

lol

What does it mean on Twitter when the replies significantly outpace the retweets?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:52:10pm

re: #96 Belafon

Pennsylvania Congressman confirms he had extramarital affair

“Party of Family Values.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:52:43pm

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹

Totally Normal Lady Says You Only Hate Trump Because Ben Sasse Was Denny Hastert’s Gay Pimp (Wonkette, with video, more at the link):

You’d never guess this woman is a religious wingnut on a religious programme. Ben Sasse (R) may be a freshman senator but he is quite conservative and party-oriented. While he did come out February 2016 and declare he could not support then-candidate Donald Trump, he has pretty much voted the party line since Trump won the Electoral College.

She is Liz Crokin (who I never heard of before I looked her up; her Twitter channel comes up as the number one item on Ixquick, followed by Town Hall calling her “an award-winning journalist and author,” followed by her Facebook page, followed by four posts by her at Right Wing Watch where she goes in on Pizzagate, Seth Rich, claims she is a sex-crime victim advocate, and satanic child abuse rings.

Fits right in to Christian hate radio I guess. The video show simply describes her as a “journalist” with no further clarification in the videos.

She is now going after so-called Never-Trumpers, liberals, and Ben Sasse:

… and …

(more)

I dive into the swill of religious hate radio so you guys don’t have to … it’s what I do since I live around it every day.

She sounds nutty even for a RR nutjob.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:53:16pm

re: #96 Belafon

Pennsylvania Congressman confirms he had extramarital affair

Doesn’t matter. Pulpit Pimping Preachers will forgive their brother in Ayn Rand Tim Murphy…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:55:17pm

re: #96 Belafon

Pennsylvania Congressman confirms he had extramarital affair

He’s actually owning up to it surprisingly well for a Republican. Still a hypocrite of course.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:55:41pm

re: #114 Joe Bacon 🌹

Doesn’t matter. Pulpit Pimping Preachers will forgive their brother in Ayn Rand Tim Murphy…

While damning the woman he slept with.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:55:46pm

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:58:11pm

Modern hurricane preparation. I just ordered batteries from Amazon

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:59:12pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹

“Party of Family Values.”

The same Pulpit Pimp Preachers who gladly forgive L’il Timmy are the same ones who bullshit about Obama being the Antichrist.

They forget that the Antichrist was already President!

RONALD = 6
WILSON = 6
REAGAN = 6

And another proof from Revelation is that the Antichrist recovers from a fatal wound.

Sure sounds like ol’ Pruneface to me!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 9:59:47pm

re: #108 Kragar

How the fuck does this man have a career peddling this shit?

Clyde Lewis

It’s a seller’s market for conservatives. When you’re trained not to think critically (shades of the Texas GOP platform coming out against that in schools because it might foster disobedience to parents), you’ll fall for anything.

Everyone to some degree has blind spots where they don’t think critically about ideas, but conservatism all my life has been training people to reject critical thinking in toto. FOX News Channel might have gotten their start with Reagan striking down the Fairness Doctrine, but would not have gotten anywhere without a trained audience from day one.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:00:44pm

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

It’s the end result of 40 years of brainwashing by the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine!

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:02:07pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

Unfortunately, her name is Louise

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:02:12pm

re: #117 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:02:15pm

re: #85 jaunte

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WTF is wrong with Peggy Noonan?

Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson’s window at the National Cathedral, showing his exploiits in the Mexican and Civil Wars.


Jackson’s sister, Laura Jackson Arnold, was a staunch Unionist. They had been close when they were young but when he died, she is reported to have said she “”would rather know that he was dead than to have him a leader in the rebel army.”
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:04:49pm

The RR are the biggest bunch of hypocritical assholes I’ve ever seen. Talk about family values. Stay silent as DACA is repealed. Disown loved ones for being gay or trans. Say we need to follow Jesus’s example. Support a vision of government that helps only the very wealthy. Cry persecution while likening their opponents to literal demons. Compare legal same sex marriage to Nazism while funding movements in Africa that kill people for being gay. Reagan can fuck off for enabling these fuckers. I wouldn’t have agreed with Goldwater on many things but someone should have kicked Jerry Falwell’s ass but Barry’s party kissed it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:06:29pm

re: #124 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson’s window at the National Cathedral, showing his exploiits in the Mexican and Civil Wars.

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Jackson’s sister, Laura Jackson Arnold, was a staunch Unionist. They had been close when they were young but when he died, she is reported to have said she “”would rather know that he was dead than to have him a leader in the rebel army.”

That’s why I can’t accept the “fighting for state” excuse. Plenty of Virginia unionists and in fact every state sent volunteers to defend it after Sumter.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:08:21pm

As the Wonkette article notes, she is not the first to push this conspiracy theory about so-called never-Trump Republicans; Mike Cernovich has been pushing it since 2016. (My guess it is part of the off-the-rails right trying to stick a shiv in the wingnut establishment right.) Wonkette explains how the conspiracy theory against Ben Sasse goes:

OK, let’s unpack this real fast.

Granted, Hastert is a bona fide sex offender pedo creep rapist. Obviously.

And granted, Omaha is in Nebraska, which is only two states away from Illinois, where Denny Hastert is from. So … one tank of gas each way?

And granted, Ben Sasse did work for the Congressional page program in the late 1990s when Hastert was speaker.

And granted, there was a crazy thing in Omaha between 1988 and 1992, where there were unproven claims of a massive underage child sex trafficking operation known as the Franklin child prostitution ring. It was bugfuck crazy, almost certainly not true, and seemed to be part of the 1980s Satanic Panic that gripped the nation, 99.999999% of which was unmitigated bullshit. But if you ever saw an episode of Sally Jessy Raphael or Geraldo, you know what we’re talking about.

There was some noise around here when Sen. Sasse claimed Feb. 2016 he could not support Donald Trump that he was involved in such things. I am not a fan of my senator, but I hold the probability of him being involved in such behaviour at about zero.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:08:55pm

A couple days ago some RWNJ complained there was no BLM relief effort in Houston. I snarked that there were no polka bands in evidence, either.

Polka musicians provide relief following Harvey devastation

kmbc.com

Your move, BLM.

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whitebeach  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:14:38pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

That’s why I can’t accept the “fighting for state” excuse. Plenty of Virginia unionists and in fact every state sent volunteers to defend it after Sumter.

“Fighting for state” was always horseshit. True, after breaking his solemnly sworn oath on being commissioned in the U.S. Army, Robert E. Lee went into service in Virginia leading state troops, but PDQ he accepted a commission from the CSA. Many other similar stories for other officers.

And Lee is grossly overrated as a general.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:14:57pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹

As the Wonkette article notes, she is not the first to push this conspiracy theory about so-called never-Trump Republicans; Mike Cernovich has been pushing it since 2016. (My guess it is part of the off-the-rails right trying to stick a shiv in the wingnut establishment right.) Wonkette explains how the conspiracy theory against Ben Sasse goes:

There was some noise around here when Sen. Sasse claimed Feb. 2016 he could not support Donald Trump that he was involved in such things. I am not a fan of my senator, but I hold the probability of him being involved in such behaviour at about zero.

I’m not a fan of his either but it’s a sick accusation to throw at someone and it’s obvious why, and it’s because Sasse doesn’t like Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:15:09pm

re: #128 Decatur Deb

A couple days ago some RWNJ complained there was no BLM relief effort in Houston. I snarked that there were no polka bands in evidence, either.

Polka musicians provide relief following Harvey devastation

kmbc.com

Your move, BLM.

buzzfeed.com

Black Lives Matter Is Bringing Food to Victims of Harvey, but People Are Sharing A False Story About BLM Blocking Relief Efforts

Black Lives Matter Houston is actively providing relief, but a story claiming the opposite has been shared to millions of people. (with photographs)

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:16:37pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:17:38pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

buzzfeed.com

Black Lives Matter Is Bringing Food to Victims of Harvey, but People Are Sharing A False Story About BLM Blocking Relief Efforts

Black Lives Matter Houston is actively providing relief, but a story claiming the opposite has been shared to millions of people. (with photographs)

But can they do a good mazurka?

Youtube Video

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:18:04pm

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:18:38pm

re: #129 whitebeach

“Fighting for state” was always horseshit. True, after breaking his solemnly sworn oath on being commissioned in the U.S. Army, Robert E. Lee went into service in Virginia leading state troops, but PDQ he accepted a commission from the CSA. Many other similar stories for other officers.

And Lee is grossly overrated as a general.

The CSA needed a warrior saint and that man was Bobby Lee. I feel Longstreet to be underrated. It’s my understanding that his defensive warfare tactics were and perhaps still are taught at West Point today but the Lost Causers hated him since he became a Republican, Catholic, & criticized St. Robert of Arlington in his memoirs.

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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:18:46pm

Dear Republicans;

Welcome to the greenhouse! Harvey is going to cost 190 billion dollars and Irma is going to cost more!

Your sticking your heads in the sand is revealed as just as stupid as a box of hammers. Your President bowing out of the Paris Accord has revealed that he has no clothes. Your inability to accept science has proved you are unable to accept reality.

Your positions have proven that you are irrelevant. Well done! The only choice you have is to raise marginal tax rates on the highest earners to pay for shit that should have been paid for long ago.

Strap in, fuckers, it’s time to pay the price for your incompetence.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:23:21pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

That’s why I can’t accept the “fighting for state” excuse. Plenty of Virginia unionists and in fact every state sent volunteers to defend it after Sumter.

Like many Tennessee “hillbillies,” my father’s ancestors were staunch Unionists. One of them narrowly escaped hanging after he was captured by rebels during a scouting trip and outed as a local. Union cavalry rode into town before the scheduled executions and freed the Unionists, though the hanging of a condemned murderer was allowed to go ahead.
The Appalachian highlands were often centers of anti-Confederate agitation that often spilled over into violence. There were few slaves in the hills and the locals had always resented the snobbish lowland planters and their “white trash” sycophants. I have always suspected that this pro-Union sentiment had a lot to do with the cultural vilification of the hill people in later years. They were (and many still are) backward and ignorant, but no more so than poor whites in the lowlands. Yet it is the “hillbilly” to whom this stereotype sticks.

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retired cynic  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:24:46pm

re: #137 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

My family, too. Deep southern Illinois/northern Kentucky.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:27:29pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹

So the alt-right loonies are trying to resurrect the old Franklin Scandal nonsense? Yeah, that was right up there with the whole Satanic Panic BS.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:27:44pm

re: #137 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Like many Tennessee “hillbillies,” my father’s ancestors were staunch Unionists. One of them narrowly escaped hanging after he was captured by rebels during a scouting trip and outed as a local. Union cavalry rode into town before the scheduled executions and freed the Unionists, though the hanging of a condemned murderer was allowed to go ahead.
The Appalachian highlands were often centers of anti-Confederate agitation that often spilled over into violence. There were few slaves in the hills and the locals had always resented the snobbish lowland planters and their “white trash” sycophants. I have always suspected that this pro-Union sentiment had a lot to do with the cultural vilification of the hill people in later years. They were (and many still are) backward and ignorant, but no more so than poor whites in the lowlands. Yet it is the “hillbilly” to whom this stereotype sticks.

No doubt you’re familiar of why the state of West Virginia exists. We actually had some Unionist sentiment here in Western Loudoun too since we had some Quaker families settle the valley. But yeah Andrew Johnson for all his failings was anti secession and hated the planter elite. Makes how he governed in Reconstruction all the more strange though he was also a white supremacist too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:30:19pm

If we want to not whitewash history, why not a memorial to Southern unionists? As SK has gotten at, they risked their lives to preserve this country. Free State of Jones btw was a neat movie.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:33:00pm

I’ve seen CSA apologists call the abolitionist movement hypocritical because of the Northern factories but at the end of the day, men like my Irish immigrant third great grandfather were paid and had freedom of mobility. And one evil doesn’t excuse a far greater one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:35:18pm

re: #136 austin_blue

Nope. Needz more cuts to food stamps, Medicaid, and TANF. [/conservatives and libertarians]

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:39:31pm

Prime Minister Browne of Antigua and Barbuda says residents of Barbuda should be completely evacuated from the island if Jose comes close.

huffingtonpost.com

Gaston Browne, the prime minister of the two-island nation of Antigua and Barbuda, described the island as “barely habitable” after the powerful Category 5 storm struck early on Wednesday.

“This rebuilding initiative will take years,” Browne told local ABS Television Radio after a visit to the island, where he confirmed that one person died in the storm.

Describing the scene as “absolute devastation,” he said the storm, which also snapped a telecoms tower, had caused estimated damage of some $150 million.

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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:40:33pm

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹

Nope. Needz more cuts to food stamps, Medicaid, and TANF. [/conservatives and libertarians]

I don’t think so. Not this time. This, between Harvey and Irma, could be a $400 billion hit. It’s a right cross to the jaw, but it’s about time for a wake-up call.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:41:50pm

Night guys. Everyone on Irma’s path. Stay safe.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:42:59pm

re: #129 whitebeach

“Fighting for state” was always horseshit. True, after breaking his solemnly sworn oath on being commissioned in the U.S. Army, Robert E. Lee went into service in Virginia leading state troops, but PDQ he accepted a commission from the CSA. Many other similar stories for other officers.

And Lee is grossly overrated as a general.

Winfield Scott, the elderly commanding general who initially offered Lee field command of the Union army, was himself a Virginian. It apparently never occurred to him to abandon his post and go over to the rebels. In his 70s and in poor health, Scott could not possibly lead the army in person but he did devise the “Anaconda Plan” for defeating the rebels. Though not adhered to formally, this was very much how the Confederacy was eventually defeated. He lived to see the Union victorious.

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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:43:02pm

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

And, if you are in south Florida, get the fuck out now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:44:06pm

re: #124 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson’s window at the National Cathedral, showing his exploiits in the Mexican and Civil Wars.

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Jackson’s sister, Laura Jackson Arnold, was a staunch Unionist. They had been close when they were young but when he died, she is reported to have said she “”would rather know that he was dead than to have him a leader in the rebel army.”

Glad it finally occurred to them that celebrating exploits in wars to expand human slavery don’t really belong in a House of Worship.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:44:30pm

huffingtonpost.com

Senators Grill Trump Nominee Who Says the Bible Trumps the Constitution.

Professor Amy Coney Barrett also wrote that judges should not have to abide by precedent.

A Senate panel on Wednesday considered the judicial nomination of Amy Coney Barrett, a controversial Catholic law professor who once seemed to suggest that one’s religious beliefs ought to take precedence over the U.S. Constitution.

President Donald Trump nominated the Notre Dame Law School professor to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit earlier this year. Barrett clerked for the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.

The Alliance for Justice, a progressive judicial advocacy group, called on the Trump administration to withdraw Barrett’s nomination in July because of her past writings on the role of faith in the courtroom. The organization also objected to her views on the matter of stare decisis, or the doctrine of legal precedent.

In an article she co-wrote with John H. Garvey entitled “Catholic Judges in Capital Cases,” Barrett criticized a Supreme Court justice who once testified that a judge’s oath to the Constitution should “alone” govern how they rule from the bench. Barrett wrote that that was not a “proper response for a Catholic judge to take with respect to abortion or the death penalty.”

(more at the link)

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BeachDem  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:46:12pm

And if Peggy Noonan’s “shonda” tweet wasn’t idiotic enough

here is part 2 (although she doesn’t know how to thread tweets either) with a Charles P. Pierce rejoinder:

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retired cynic  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:46:31pm

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹

Oh, for ….

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:46:35pm

re: #145 austin_blue

I don’t think so. Not this time. This, between Harvey and Irma, could be a $400 billion hit. It’s a right cross to the jaw, but it’s about time for a wake-up call.

Needz selling more National Parks, taxes on the middle class and poor, and repeal of the estate tax.

Conservatives don’t give a flying flip about the deficit when they are in charge. They’ll find the money, borrow the money, or cut every programme they don’t like. That’s what they do, that’s what they’ve always done.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:54:19pm

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

Needz selling more National Parks, taxes on the middle class and poor, and repeal of the estate tax.

Conservatives don’t give a flying flip about the deficit when they are in charge. They’ll find the money, borrow the money, or cut every programme they don’t like. That’s what they do, that’s what they’ve always done.

I’m hoping they’ll actually fail at passing big tax cuts for the rich this time. Which may be why Trump is starting to cut deals with Democrats, because the Congressional GOP is too incompetant to pass anything, even tax cuts for the rich, their bread and butter.

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 10:59:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:05:52pm

re: #155 Kragar

I eagerly await Peggy Noonan weighing in on monuments to anti-abortion clinic bombers, the Ku Klux Klan, and Lew Rockwell.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:08:42pm

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹

I’d rather wait on the results of a colonoscopy.

Who was the poster on here that was giving the play-by-play prep on that?

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EPR-radar  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:09:03pm

re: #154 Big Beautiful Door

I’m hoping they’ll actually fail at passing big tax cuts for the rich this time. Which may be why Trump is starting to cut deals with Democrats, because the Congressional GOP is too incompetant to pass anything, even tax cuts for the rich, their bread and butter.

I stand by my prior prediction that tr*mp will get impeached and removed from office if he finds a way to screw up the GOP’s tax cuts for the rich.

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EPR-radar  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:09:30pm

re: #157 alloutofcrazyhere

I’d rather wait on the results of a colonoscopy.

Who was the poster on here that was giving the play-by-play prep on that?

Goddamnfrank.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:09:30pm

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹

I eagerly await Peggy Noonan weighing in on monuments to anti-abortion clinic bombers, the Ku Klux Klan, and Lew Rockwell.

And shouldn’t she be calling for a memorial to the jihadists of 9/11 in NYC?

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:14:13pm

Damn it Rifftrax, why did you stick this in my head?

Rifftrax Presents: My Own Robot (My Own, My Lady)

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:15:37pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:16:11pm

With numerous screenshots of flight tracking software that also tracks weather systems, Huffington Post shows the story of the last flight in and out of San Juan today (a Delta flight), along with tweets cheering the aircraft on.

Apparently, many others turned away. After landing, the 737 was turned around on the ramp in thirty minutes and left early to escape the hurricane, returning to New York.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:16:37pm
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retired cynic  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:16:56pm

re: #162 Kragar

I think that’s my signal to say goodnight, and put my head under the pillow.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:22:52pm

re: #155 Kragar

Fuck, Peggy Noonan is stupid:

To quote Larry Wilmore, “[South], no one’s saying you invented slavery, but you did hold onto it like a motherfucker.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:25:06pm

re: #166 Ace-o-aces

Fuck, Peggy Noonan is stupid:

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To quote Larry Wilmore, “[South], no one’s saying you invented slavery, but you did hold onto it like a motherfucker.”

She will keep digging because she cannot admit she took the wrong side of a moral argument.

Her argument is similar to Trump’s about Charlottesville: There were “bad hombres” on both sides. She is going to ride that magic balance fairy argument at Rupert Murdoch’s WSJ because that is what she is paid to do.

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Teukka  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:27:09pm

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹

She will keep digging because she cannot admit she took the wrong side of a moral argument.

Her argument is similar to Trump’s about Charlottesville: There were “bad hombres” on both sides. She is going to ride that magic balance fairy argument at Rupert Murdoch’s WSJ because that is what she is paid to do.

Chasing the magic balance fairy? More like chasing the magic balance dragon…
*coughs*
*ducks*

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:31:59pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:32:26pm
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TedStriker  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:33:34pm

re: #169 Kragar

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:35:33pm

re: #169 Kragar

Now I know why they could never 100% replicate the super serum that Captain America got.

The more you know …

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:39:52pm

re: #169 Kragar

archive.sltrib.com

I presume Wife with a Purpose is to promote racist and fascist ideology.

The Salt Lake City Tribune reported on her (I can’t find where someone actually met this woman so I have no idea if she is real, fake, or even Mormon)

Mormonism is doomed if it continues to celebrate racial and ethnic diversity, to support refugees and immigrant families, and to debase Western, white culture.

At least that’s the view of one Latter-day Saint, a blogger named Ayla, who tweets as Nordic Sunrise and “Wife With A Purpose” — despite the fact that her church disagrees with her on all those points.

Still — because the mother of six has nearly 22,000 Twitter followers, has been interviewed multiple times on radio and maintains a strong presence on social media — some see her as representing a “growing” alt-right LDS subculture.

(more)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:43:22pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹

“Party of Family Values.”

God will forgive you if you voted GOP

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:47:21pm

re: #163 Anymouse 🌹

Holy crap! Brave flight crew and cool app.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:48:02pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

That’s why I can’t accept the “fighting for state” excuse. Plenty of Virginia unionists and in fact every state sent volunteers to defend it after Sumter.

When the discussion flares up on FB, I pull out this quote from Virginia-born Union general Henry “The Rock of Chickamauga” Thomas:

“[T]he greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them.”
Report to General Ulysses S. Grant (17 November 1868)

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EPR-radar  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:49:22pm

re: #166 Ace-o-aces

What is this shit about the civil war having resolved matters? In case Noonan hasn’t noticed, her party is thoroughly infested with neo-Confederate revanchists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:51:37pm

re: #177 EPR-radar

What is this shit about the civil war having resolved matters? In case Noonan hasn’t noticed, her party is thoroughly infested with neo-Confederate revanchists.

It also seems that WW2 never fully resolved things either…

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:53:49pm

re: #175 JordanRules

Holy crap! Brave flight crew and cool app.

Plus competent and dedicated ground crews both in New York and San Juan to get that one last flight in and out as the hurricane approached Puerto Rico.

Those pictures of the app are quite dramatic as the flight path moved toward San Juan then after the flight took off again as the hurricane bore down on Puerto Rico.

I need to hit the rack. It was a long day (since I had to be up during the day to get that behemoth vehicle - my step-father, who drives occasionally for Hertz, tells me the thing costs more than my house and my car put together with all the features on it).

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:55:43pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:56:26pm

re: #177 EPR-radar

What is this shit about the civil war having resolved matters? In case Noonan hasn’t noticed, her party is thoroughly infested with neo-Confederate revanchists.

if the eleventh commandment (according to ronald reagan) is “thou shalt not speak ill of another republican”, surely the twelfth or thirteenth must be “thou shalt never under any circumstances admit the obvious fact that the republican party has worked hard to make itself a comfortable home for the formerly dixiecrat neo confederate racists”

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2017 • 11:59:12pm

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And that alternative history cant, already going in 1868, is one example of why those who led the rebellion should have faced punishment.

The CSA government officials, high military leaders, &c. In magnanimity and mercy, that cancer was not excised from society.

Mercy is the suspension of justice. Extending mercy to those who took up arms against the nation was a grave mistake - and they rebelled even before Lincoln was sworn in. They had some clue about Lincoln’s positions, but he had not had even one day to try to enact them.

The South, using the tools available in government (bills in the House and Senate, filibusters, &c) might have staved off anything Lincoln could have done (I am not apologising for slavery here). Instead they said “hell no” and took up guns.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 7, 2017 • 12:00:19am

re: #180 Ace-o-aces

virtue signaling

i love how the gop has now contrived to take offense at the apparently obnoxious and anti social act of standing up for the golden rule

at this rate jesus must have been the biggest virtue signalling cuck of all time

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 7, 2017 • 12:00:27am

re: #180 Ace-o-aces

Supergirl, Batgirl, and Wonder Woman is virtue signaling? Who made up that derpy term anyway?

Oh I get it, Wonder Woman fought Nazis. He supports Nazis.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 7, 2017 • 12:02:10am

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹

Supergirl, Batgirl, and Wonder Woman is virtue signaling? Who made up that derpy term anyway?

Oh I get it, Wonder Woman fought Nazis. He supports Nazis.

Women are supposed to be cooling and serving food! The only women’s faces that belong on food are Sarah Lee, Betty Crocker, Aunt Jemimah, Mrs. Butterworth and Little Debbie!!!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 7, 2017 • 12:07:16am

i suppose these guys would consider benny goodman, by daring to feature lionel hampton, charlie christian, and teddy wilson in his sextet, to be a 1930s example of virtue signalling

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 7, 2017 • 12:11:03am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Women are supposed to be cooling and serving food! The only women’s faces that belong on food are Sarah Lee, Betty Crocker, Aunt Jemimah, Mrs. Butterworth and Little Debbie!!!

Victoria’s Secret libelz.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 7, 2017 • 12:17:03am
Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values done primarily with the intent of enhancing standing within a social group. The term was first used in signalling theory, to describe any behavior that could be used to signal virtue—especially piety among the religious. Since 2015, the term has become more commonly used as a pejorative characterization by commentators to criticize what they regard as the platitudinous, empty, or superficial support of certain political views, and also used within groups to criticize their own members for valuing outward appearance over substantive action. This more recent usage of the term has been criticized for misusing the concept of signalling and encouraging lazy thinking.[5]

(Wikipedia)

Okay, got it. It’s projection with conservatives, always.

So by the original definition, wearing a cross around one’s neck might be considered virtue signalling to other Christians. Even the sometime silly antics by Tea Party supporters such as wearing tricorn hats or flying a Gadsden Flag would be considered virtue signalling under the proper definition.

But Wheaties put Serena Williams on their box!!!!uno!1!(butthurt)!!! is “virtue signalling.”

I can’t keep up with wingnut misappropriation of terms. It’s like Deepak Chopra on meth.

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Kragar  Sep 7, 2017 • 12:23:28am

re: #180 Ace-o-aces

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fern01  Sep 7, 2017 • 1:27:44am

re: #174 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

God will forgive you if you voted GOP

Rep. Murphy requested that his family’s privacy be respected,

Like they gave privacy to any democrat in this position.

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ckkatz  Sep 7, 2017 • 1:43:49am

re: #137 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Yup, a lot more southerners served in the Union than is popularly thought.

The book “Bitterly Divided: The South’s Civil War” by David Williams estimates that about 300,000 southern whites and about 200,000 Southern blacks fought for the Union.

Estimates are that about 750,000 - 1 million served in the Confederate armies and 2.2 million served the Union. The Confederacy was not well known for good record keeping so the numbers are not too certain. The Union numbers are a lot more verifiable.

A few points:

1) Williams defines the South as that area below the Mason-Dixon line. This includes Delaware, Maryland, and several other states that predominantly stayed with the Union.

2) There is often not much discussion of this outside of academic circles because a major part of the interest in the Civil War, and the economy associated with it, comes from those folks very wrapped up in “Southern Identity”.

3) The Confederacy suffered tremendous problems with desertion as the war went on.

In a speech at Macon, Georgia, September 23, 1864 Jefferson Davis said:

“It is not proper for me to speak of the number of men in the field. But this I will say, that two-thirds of our men are absent - some sick, some wounded, but most of them absent without leave.”

4) Yes, by late 1864, large sections of the South were no-go areas for the Confederacy without hundreds of soldiers accompanying them.

5) Reading about the Civil War in the Appalachians often sounds very similar to reading about the current war in Afghanistan. The Hill-folk in the Appalachians had their own priorities and agendas. Which did not always mesh with those of either Army.

Iirc, the McCoys were mostly on the Confederate side, the Hatfields served mostly on the Union side. But the feud may have started when a McCoy returning from service in the Union Army was bushwhacked and killed by a local Confederate guerrilla gang. The reputed killer was a member of the Hatfield clan.

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MsJ  Sep 7, 2017 • 4:27:45am

re: #145 austin_blue

I don’t think so. Not this time. This, between Harvey and Irma, could be a $400 billion hit. It’s a right cross to the jaw, but it’s about time for a wake-up call.

There will never be a wake up call. That would mean that right wingers would have to admit that Al Gore was right, that Obama was right, that liberals are right. And that is not going to happen. They’ll believe that Satan and liberal meteorologists are controlling the weather first.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 7, 2017 • 7:18:50am

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹

archive.sltrib.com

I presume Wife with a Purpose is to promote racist and fascist ideology.

The Salt Lake City Tribune reported on her (I can’t find where someone actually met this woman so I have no idea if she is real, fake, or even Mormon)

(more)

She has blocked me for some reason, so I am denied her womanly essence, and can go through life happy and free.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2017 • 9:39:02am

re: #169 Kragar

What the fuck did I just read?


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