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jaunte  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:59:24pm
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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:02:25pm

Ha, ha Jack responded to this brilliant tweet after their big announcement.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:07:06pm

sorry if posted.

But wait!

Is he allowed to delete his stupid tweets?

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Kragar  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:07:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:07:54pm

Haha what a petty ass.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:08:27pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

But wait!

Is he allowed to delete his stupid tweets?

Can Mike Pence turn on a dime and give you 9¢ change?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:09:19pm

re: #6 jaunte

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Can Mike Pence turn on a dime and give you 9¢ change?

Pence is always happy to support a fellow theocrat.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:10:12pm

re: #4 Kragar

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He’s losing it.

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No Depression  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:10:28pm

re: #4 Kragar

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Sad thing is he’ll succeed in hiding this from his supporters. I’m beginning to think they never acquired object permanence.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:11:06pm

“Big Luther… I brand people!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:11:37pm

The word that Mr. Olberman implied but did not say, that the GOP and Donald Trump seem to be complicit in:

Genocide.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:11:45pm

Until 2016, parties routinely rallied behind the winner in a primary. But Trump is trying to rewrite history.

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whitebeach  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:11:50pm

Page header: Olbermann: Trump Is Destroying Puerto Rico

Let’s be fair: Why should Puerto Rico be treated any differently than the rest of the country?

////// for any who need it

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Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:12:01pm

Referring to the earlier tweets, but hah

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:12:13pm

re: #6 jaunte

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:13:27pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

He’s losing it.

Naw, it’s just that Trump is never wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:13:34pm

re: #14 Stanley Sea

Referring to the earlier tweets, but hah

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Too bad Kander lost that senate race last year because he’d be great in the Senate.

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:14:38pm

re: #13 whitebeach

Page header: Olbermann: Trump Is Destroying Puerto Rico

Let’s be fair: Why should Puerto Rico be treated any differently than the rest of the country?

////// for any who need it

Wait and see what he does when a blue state needs help.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:14:49pm

Extremely wishful thinking he pisses off Strange’s former supporters and Moore’s supporters by doing this which helps propel Jones into a win in December?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:15:33pm

re: #16 Skip Intro

Naw, it’s just that Trump is never wrong.

Butbutbutbut

he’s not even sneaky

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:15:46pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Extremely wishful thinking he pisses off Strange’s former supporters and Moore’s supporters by doing this which helps propel Jones into a win in December?

Living in fantasyland isn’t going to help.

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No Depression  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:16:38pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Extremely wishful thinking he pisses off Strange’s former supporters and Moore’s supporters by doing this which helps propel Jones into a win in December?

Who knows? Guess you’ll have to find out on the next episode of The White House Apprentice.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:16:41pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

Living in fantasyland isn’t going to help.

Well I admit it was extremely wishful thinking. I know it’s very unlikely.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:17:31pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

sorry if posted.

But wait!

Is he allowed to delete his stupid tweets?

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archives.gov

(Requirements for recordkeeping of social media utterances).

No he is not allowed to delete (or change) tweets.

Enforcing it would require a party that cares about law-and-order (Democrats) to be in power.

This issue has been called out ever since Trump was elected. The GOP is ignoring it. They need their tax cuts for billionaires and they do not care what laws they break (or people they kill either through healthcare or ignoring disasters) to get those tax cuts.

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:17:39pm

re: #20 Stanley Sea

He doesn’t have to be. He has a tv network, all talk radio, and thousands of web sites all helping him erase history.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:18:06pm

Well I guess the bully pulpit has the Air force cowed and subservient.
thedrive.com

General Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford told the Senate Armed Services Committee today that it was indeed the White House, not the Air Force, that cut the ability to mid-air refuel from the Air Force One replacement program requirements.

Oriana Pawlyk of military.com broke the story today after Senator Tom Cotton questioned the Pentagon’s top uniformed official on the necessity to be able to keep the aircraft airborne in the event of a nuclear strike. Dunford replied:

“I think that was a decision that was not made by the Air Force, but made by the White House, and I think it had to do with the fiscal constraints on the program… That will certainly be a limiting factor, and we’ll have to plan accordingly.”

The Senator replied:

“I think we may have to revisit that decision here on Capitol Hill.”

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:18:13pm
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whitebeach  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:18:29pm

re: #18 Skip Intro

Wait and see what he does when a blue state needs help.

“The military option is on the table.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:20:11pm

re: #18 Skip Intro

Wait and see what he does when a blue state needs help.

See Hurricane Sandy for that.

The GOP really needs to be called out as the Party of Genocide, or a death cult.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:20:46pm

re: #27 Ace-o-aces

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Man I wish I could get a position and then brag about how I’ll be removed for being unprofessional on the first day. //

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No Depression  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:21:13pm

re: #26 Unshaken Defiance

Well I guess the bully pulpit has the Air force cowed and subservient.
thedrive.com

I wonder if Vlad told Trump that mid-air refueling is a waste of money?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:21:39pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:22:15pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Who will be the first person Moore shoots on the Senate floor? Should we start a pool?

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No Depression  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:23:35pm

re: #33 Skip Intro

Who will be the first person Moore shoots on the Senate floor? Sholuld we start a pool?

Himself. I highly doubt he takes gun safety seriously.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:23:44pm

re: #33 Skip Intro

Who will be the first person Moore shoots on the Senate floor? Sholuld we start a pool?

Hopefully no body.(See my wishful thinking). But failing that, hopefully himself metaphorically in the foot.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:24:22pm

re: #33 Skip Intro

Can we include the State of the Union speech?

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:25:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:25:39pm

Personally Moore is why I’m against the electing of judges. A judge is supposed to be an apolitical position and Moore was anything but apolitical.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:25:39pm
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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:26:04pm

Oh thank goodness.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:26:09pm

re: #39 jaunte

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Trump was actually fairly reasonable when Moore first entered the spotlight. Again a symptom not the illness.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:26:52pm

re: #40 JordanRules

Oh thank goodness.

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Of course, it was those three. Gorsuch already replacing Scalia very “well.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:27:04pm

Jared Kushner’s Lawyer Can’t Wait To Fap To Jared’s* NAKED LEGO PORN EMAILS (*Not Jared’s) (goes to Wonkette) More at the link:

Fucking LOL, it happened again! A hilarious email prankster successfully screwed with one of the GENIUS LEGAL MINDS representing the Trump family, and we can all laugh at the results together! This time, it was silly funny pranky-pully man Jeff Jetton, who also recently established a productive email penpal relationship with Donald Trump lawyer Ty Cobb, baiting him with sweet words about Trump’s hairy testicles getting caught in his throat hole. Cobb was obviously like, “NOT IF THEY GET CAUGHT FIRST IN MY BUSHY MOU-STACHE!” and emailed back to set the dude straight!

So it was that, in the wake of revelations that Prince Jared of Kushner has been using his own private jared@ivanka.com email to conduct government business, our email jester used the address “kushner.jared@mail.com” for evil purposes, to email Kushner lawyer Abbe Lowell about whether “Jared Kushner” should delete all the hot hard barely legal LEGO PORN he had on his personal email. And they were off to the races!

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:27:07pm

re: #32 jaunte

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No Depression  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:27:58pm

re: #32 jaunte

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Did you know that the Earth is 70% water? 70% believe me. 70%. You know, I told my old friend David, great guy by the way—I told my friend David Duke that I hate water. I hate it. You can’t develop on it. You just can’t do it. Can’t do it, believe me.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:28:25pm

re: #32 jaunte

I finally get to write an earlier comment as a tweet:

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:30:32pm

re: #44 Skip Intro

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Reminds me of when Google Maps first started. If you tried to cross an ocean or sea it would tell you to get in a kayak.

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calochortus  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:31:06pm

re: #47 Belafon

Reminds me of when Google Maps first started. If you tried to cross an ocean or sea it would tell you to get in a kayak.

Or swim.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:31:34pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Man I wish I could get a position and then brag about how I’ll be removed for being unprofessional on the first day. //

I was kidding.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:32:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:33:05pm

re: #49 Ace-o-aces

I was kidding.

Hey can you blame me given some of the shit these guys say?

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:34:01pm

Does anyone have a link to that minister who talks about people being uncomfortable with the protests, when they should be uncomfortable with the police brutality? Someone posted it here in the last couple of days.

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:35:34pm

re: #52 Belafon

Do you remember if it was Rev. Barber?

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:37:36pm

re: #53 JordanRules

Do you remember if it was Rev. Barber?

No. The guy I’m remembering is white.

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:38:15pm

re: #54 Belafon

Oh okay. I might have missed that one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:39:20pm

From the previous thread:

re: #338 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:44:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:47:23pm

re: #57 jaunte

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Yep sure is.

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calochortus  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:50:12pm

re: #57 jaunte

Hypocrisy Я Us.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:50:41pm

re: #16 Skip Intro

Naw, it’s just that Trump is never wrong.

Only he backstabbed Luther just a few days before the election by saying “I might have made a mistake,” in endorsing him. He said this while Strange was standing next to him on stage, and Moore’s campaign used adds with this footage to further their lead. Imagine how embarrassing that must have been for poor Big Luther, having to sit there while our craven President just politically cucks him right there in front of the world.

How can anybody in Trump’s own party ever trust him after something like that?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:52:30pm

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:52:37pm

The Trump Administration withholding aid, food, medical supplies from millions of desperate Puerto Ricans. When the Soviet Union did that to Ukrainians in the 1930’s, it was called a genocide. When Pakistan did that to East Pakistan (Bangladesh) in 1971, it was called a genocide. When Indonesia did that to East Timor in 1975, it was called a genocide.
We’re seeing our own government trying to commit genocide of our citizens in Puerto Rico.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:00:41pm

Here it is: johnpavlovitz.com.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:02:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:03:53pm

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

Only he backstabbed Luther just a few days before the election by saying “I might have made a mistake,” in endorsing him. He said this while Strange was standing next to him on stage, and Moore’s campaign used adds with this footage to further their lead. Imagine how embarrassing that must have been for poor Big Luther, having to sit there while our craven President just politically cucks him right there in front of the world.

How can anybody in Trump’s own party ever trust him after something like that?

“Just lay back and think of the tax cuts.”

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:05:42pm

re: #62 DodgerFan1988

People have a hard time seeing it in real time. Many have known what this is and can mean since 11/9 and every single thing they’ve done since then has supported it. This is a racist hybrid auto-klepto-theo-cratic push for the wholesale remaking and retaking of America, empowered in many ways by a foreign government.
On days when I have a really hard time dealing with it all, I remind myself that it’s good that I don’t think it’s normal or get used to it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:11:51pm

re: #62 DodgerFan1988

The Trump Administration withholding aid, food, medical supplies from millions of desperate Puerto Ricans. When the Soviet Union did that to Ukrainians in the 1930’s, it was called a genocide. When Pakistan did that to East Pakistan (Bangladesh) in 1971, it was called a genocide. When Indonesia did that to East Timor in 1975, it was called a genocide.
We’re seeing our own government trying to commit genocide of our citizens in Puerto Rico.

And that’s why it needs to be called out as such.

I can call it genocide in a place like LGF or my E-mail but I can’t reach very far.

Those with a large platform (major politicians or political parties, celebrities, &c) are the ones who need to be using “genocide.”

Framing is always important in politics, and “genocide” is one word that if you have to argue against it, you’re losing.

I’m not on Twitter or Facebook, so I can’t stick “genocide” into Republican politician timelines.

Others can, and they should be doing so at every opportunity.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:17:16pm

If Roy Moore is on social media, right now people should be asking on Facebook and Twitter (where the whole world can see it) whether he supports genocide.

Make him deny it. If you’re explaining, you’re losing in politics.

That word should show up in every Republican’s timeline, every single day.

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:18:53pm

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹

Few with the platforms that would be useful will even say ‘Lie’ or ‘Racist’ so that’s a battle we’ve been losing unfortunately.

I hope we can make that leap though because, as you expressed, it’s a really important part of the communication and framing. And not repeating every damn mistake from the past would be nice too. History is rhyming with the present way too much right now and we need to sue for copyright infringement.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:19:02pm

Just finished Episode Six of ‘The Vietnam War.’ Masterful film making from Ken Burns and Lynn Novick. Very heavy subject matter, I’ve found myself weeping a couple of times in every episode.

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Interesting Times  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:19:52pm

Well, it would be poetic justice if nothing else…

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retired cynic  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:20:21pm

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹

If Roy Moore is on social media, right now people should be asking on Facebook and Twitter (where the whole world can see it) whether he supports genocide.

Make him deny it. If you’re explaining, you’re losing in politics.

That word should show up in every Republican’s timelines, every single day.

That’s easy. They’ll deny it. They will say DT is doing “all he can.” Lying does not bother them.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:21:03pm
How can anybody in Trump’s own party ever trust him after something like that?

The party has true believers who will just follow along because they don’t evaluate “what just happened” in terms you or I would, because they don’t value consistency, and their version of “loyalty” operates more like an honor culture—different rules for those “in” than “out,” lots of covering bad behavior, and lots of nudge-nudge-wink-wink exceptions to rules—than a formal ethical code.

…and it has cynics who are loyal because loyalty is necessary to make the heist come off.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:21:09pm

re: #72 retired cynic

That’s easy. They’ll deny it. They will say DT is doing “all he can.” Lying does not bother them.

Then call him a liar. Make him answer the question.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:21:58pm

“Mr. Moore, is lying for Jesus to kill people for tax cuts in your version of the New Testament?”

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:24:25pm

re: #73 The Ghost of a Flea

The party has true believers who will just follow along because they don’t evaluate “what just happened” in terms you or I would, because they don’t value consistency, and their version of “loyalty” operates more like an honor culture—different rules for those “in” than “out,” lots of covering bad behavior, and lots of nudge-nudge-wink-wink exceptions to rules—than a formal ethical code.

…and it has cynics who are loyal because loyalty is necessary to make the heist come off.

Earlier I made the comparison between certain Republicans and sports fans… it’s all about the team, we hate that guy until we trade for him (or he signs in free agency); we love this guy until he gets traded (or leaves in free agency). Being consistent is for suckers

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wheat-dogg  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:36:08pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

Just finished Episode Six of ‘The Vietnam War.’ Masterful film making from Ken Burns and Lynn Novick. Very heavy subject matter, I’ve found myself weeping a couple of times in every episode.

I’ve just finished watching the same ep. I was 12 at that point in history, and remember my feelings at the time vividly. I believed then that Westmoreland was lying through his teeth. I hated the hawks in the government and military who wanted to send even more men and women into hell, and was particularly afraid of what might happen when I reached 18. Because then, it looked as though the war in Viet Nam would last forever.

Rev. King being shot. Then Bobby Kennedy being shot. The riots everywhere. Student protests — I lived on Long Island, so the Columbia U occupation was heavily covered. There was a kind of existential dread among people my age — some, not all, I suppose. As the Burns films show, there were still plenty of young men stupid enough to want to go to Vietnam to “defend the USA.”

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retired cynic  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:38:10pm

re: #77 wheat-dogg

I can still remember how we cried when my brother got a high draft number. I was on campus at the U of IL then, and we had plenty of protests to go around.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:39:03pm

re: #77 wheat-dogg

Marine Roger Harris not being able to get a cab at BOS, in uniform…

The more things change the more they stay the same.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:40:11pm

Trump’s comments blaming Puerto Rico for its storm damage seem due to his golf course bankruptcy (Goes to Daily Kos, more at the link):

This week, Trump’s attacking the NFL was perhaps yet another deflection, but it may have come closer to Agent Orange’s self-interest by omission.

It now makes more sense that he seemed to avoid mentioning the storm damage emergency in Puerto Rico,

Quite the opposite … mentioning Puerto Rico tarnishes his brand.

Rather, PR is the site of yet another Trump business failure, and does explain his tweets trashing the banks, infrastructure, and territorial debt.

It is always about him and his money.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:43:27pm

re: #78 retired cynic

I can still remember how we cried when my brother got a high draft number. I was on campus at the U of IL then, and we had plenty of protests to go around.

I was spared that particular horror, first by a low number in the draft lottery and then by Nixon ending the draft entirely. My mom was ready to send me to Canada. Not sure what my dad would have said about that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:43:59pm

Anagram fun:

President Trump = Mr. Putin’s Red Pet (from Daily Kos)

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:08:54pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:12:54pm

Today is Shannon Hoon’s birthday. He would have been 50.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:18:14pm
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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:19:51pm
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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:23:21pm
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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:23:50pm

re: #50 jaunte

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My comment from December, 2016:

_Phrase I wish would be expunged from the political conversation:

conservative firebrand

I have seen it used in the past few months to describe:
Stephen Bannon
Rodrigo Duterte
Kellyanne Conway
Michele Bachmann
Tomi Lahren
Thomas Massie (my sympathies, Sleuth)
Ted Cruz
Milo Yiannopoulos
Dinesh D’Souza
Andrew Breitbart (yep—they were saying he was talking from beyond the grave)
Pamela Geller
Phyllis Schlafly
Ann Coulter
and even Louis Fucking Gohmert

and that’s just in the past few months.

ENOUGH ALREADY! Get off your lazy asses and find some different words.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:22:02pm

re: #18 Skip Intro

Wait and see what he does when a blue state needs help.

My nightmare - a megathrust quake hits the Cascadia Subduction Zone. A 9.0 (or bigger) on the moment magnitude scale, lasting for about five minutes. Oregon and Washington suffer unprecedented devastation (coastal areas? forget it…..they’re gone; the inevitable tsunami will cause destruction unlike anything the continental US has ever seen) with tens of thousands dead, infrastructure utterly destroyed and hundreds of billions in property damage (enough to bankrupt insurance companies, I’d say). The regional economic effects would be nothing short of catastrophic with spillover into the national economy. It’s been estimated that it would take a few months to restore basic services in most areas, and in the coastal inundation zones, probably a couple of years before things return to normal. There’d also very likely be a depopulation event, as the survivors begin making their way out of the ruins of the Pacific Northwest to other parts of the USA.

And if this apocalyptic scenario happens while Trump is POTUS? God help those folks, ‘cause Trump sure as shit isn’t going to do much beyond spouting empty platitudes on Twitter.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:31:11pm

re: #90 Dr Lizardo

Pretty much nowhere is safe … earthquakes in Cascadia or California, perhaps also Missouri or off the coast of South Carolina … hurricanes along the East Coast and Gulf of Mexico, Tornado Alley up the middle, and Yellowstone Caldera just waiting to bury us here… .

Trump’s administration still hasn’t gotten the emergency declaration for the tornadoes in my county in June doing anything yet (one of the things that’s pulling his supporters away in the local area).

Aside from the bigotry involving Puerto Rico (and perhaps the humiliation of his bankruptcy there just before he ran for office), I think the other issue is he simply doesn’t know what to do.

Worse, he is too proud to admit he doesn’t know what to do and ask someone who does. Senator Marco Rubio just travelled to Puerto Rico to get a first-hand look at the scale of damage there and in the Virgin Islands … I doubt Trump gives a hoot about anything Sen. Rubio learned on his trip.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:32:33pm

So why were relief ships not ready to sail as soon as the storm had allowed them?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:37:55pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹

Yeah……..Trump’s hopelessly out of his depth. He really has no idea what he’s doing whatsoever and like you said, he’s too proud - and stubborn - to admit this.

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:41:50pm

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So why were relief ships not ready to sail as soon as the storm had allowed them?

That’s a rhetorical question, right?

But if not — because Trump has no clue about any goddamned thing. Like a lot of the RWNJ, they think the country sort of runs on automatic and that President is like Prom King. They have no concept at all of what the job entails other than waving and being a symbolic avatar.

Bill Clinton and Barack Obama did their work so smoothly the wingers didn’t realize it was actually work; they thought the culture-war speechifying was all those guys did. Which is also why they liked GWB so much. It wasn’t until Katrina that the right realized OMG it’s a real job and there’s real things he’s supposed to be doing and he’s not doing them!!

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:46:30pm

re: #93 Dr Lizardo

I don’t think he cares at all.

Then beyond that he doesn’t have a competent regime at all. They do not know how to govern and they don’t care to learn. Lots of institutional memory is gone with a refusal to reach out to any of the “non-loyals”. Power struggles and chaos are in the mix too and you just get disasters upon disasters.

Then…profit time! Shock doctrine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:49:13pm

re: #94 sagehen

That’s a rhetorical question, right?

Rhetorical in the sense that I wonder if Trump was aware that Puerto Rico is a US territory to begin with…

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:50:31pm

The Republicans in the Senate, even if they have not a humanitarian bone in their bodies and many of them harbor particular animus for Spanish-speakers… you’d think a few of them would be politically cunning enough to realize that if a million Puerto Ricans up and move to the gulf states… they are American citizens, and not a one of them will ever vote Republican again for the rest of their lives.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:54:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:57:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:01:21am

Hmmm … .

PHOENIX (AP) — A leading purveyor of fake news in the 2016 presidential election has died outside Phoenix at the age of 38.

Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Mark Casey said Tuesday authorities discovered Paul Horner dead in his bed on Sept. 18.

Casey said the Maricopa County medical examiner performed an autopsy which showed there were no signs of foul play. He said Horner had a history of prescription drug abuse and that “evidence at the scene suggested this could be an accidental overdose.”

Horner was known for writing false stories and disseminating internet hoaxes that often went viral on Facebook and hoodwinked thousands of people.

They included a story falsely claiming President Barack Obama was gay and a radical Muslim, and another saying protesters were being paid thousands of dollars to demonstrate at Donald Trump’s campaign rallies.

Horner took on greater prominence during the presidential election when false stories were widely shared on social media during the race between Trump and Hillary Clinton.

In an interview with The Washington Post in 2016, Horner said he thought Trump won the White House because of him. Horner said Trump’s supporters didn’t fact-check his stories before posting them.

More at apnews.com

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freetoken  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:04:06am

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹

Reality is turning out more twisted than fiction.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:05:19am

re: #101 freetoken

Reality is turning out more twisted than fiction.

Note the guy said in an interview last year that Trump supporters (by extension conservative voters) do not check facts.

That makes it very easy to lie to them if the lie is something they want to believe.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:08:09am

Mount Sinabung in Indonesia just erupted. The mountain is an ancient stratovolcano.

The mountain has been erupting since last year.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:09:30am

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹

Note the guy said in an interview last year that Trump supporters (by extension conservative voters) do not check facts.

That makes it very easy to lie to them if the lie is something they want to believe.

That is not what bugs me half as much as the alacrity with which major news agencies are ready to pick up and run with these stories for fear of being scooped

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:14:53am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is not what bugs me half as much as the alacrity with which major news agencies are ready to pick up and run with these stories for fear of being scooped

Well, regrettably the news now operates at the speed of the Internet.

Unless you live in an area like mine where the overwhelming majority of the populace are still dependent on things like the morning newspaper, the urge to beat out folk on the Internet with a “scoop” becomes irresistible.

Some Website makes up a lie, and it’s on FOX in half an hour. Twenty-four hour news organisations have to fill their time with something, and OMYGODHEREMAILS! sure sounded like a big time scoop.

The New York Times didn’t learn after Judith Miller.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:15:34am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

Yeah, she needs to get the hell outta there.

Now. Don’t stop to take a selfie or an Instagram vid or anything. Just go.

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:15:53am

Creepy creepy story I read today:

newyorker.com
The Nazi Sites of Los Angeles
A walking tour of where the Fascists and Hitlerites gathered in California.

L1 was Leon Lewis, an unassuming lawyer who had served in the First World War and helped found the Anti-Defamation League. The Nazis called him “the most dangerous Jew in Los Angeles.” He worked independently; the F.B.I. focussed its scant resources on the Communist threat, and many on the city’s police force were Klansmen or American Fascists, or at least sympathetic to the anti-Jewish attitudes of the Hitlerites. By the time Pearl Harbor was attacked, Lewis’s agents had disrupted elaborate efforts to spread Nazi ideology in the United States, revealed fifth columnists and saboteurs inside the Douglas aircraft plant, and foiled two murder plots whose targets included not only the spymaster but also Jack Benny, Samuel Goldwyn, Charlie Chaplin, and Louis B. Mayer. “The Nazis saw L.A. as more important than Jew York, as they called it,” Ross said. “La Guardia, who was half Jewish, had the ports closely watched, whereas in L.A. they were able to bring in propaganda, money, everything they wanted, without a worry.”

The whole story is pretty short; not a book review, but a profile of a guy who wrote a book coming out soon that sounds fascinating

Hitler in Los Angeles
by Steve Ross

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:24:33am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:30:28am

King Salman of Saudi Arabia to lift ban on women driving.

bbc.com

Saudi Arabia’s King Salman has issued a decree allowing women to drive for the first time, to the joy of activists.

The Gulf kingdom is the only country in the world that bans women from driving.

Until now, only men were allowed licences and women who drove in public risked being arrested and fined.

What happens now?

A ministerial body will be set up to give advice within 30 days
The royal order will be implemented by 24 June 2018

The country’s US ambassador, Prince Khaled bin Salman, confirmed that women would not have to get male permission to take driving lessons, and would be able to drive anywhere they liked.

Good for women in Saudi Arabia, and a wingnut talking point here taken away. (More at the BBC link)

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:32:44am

An activist who was jailed for driving in the kingdom took to social media to answer questions asking for a statement:

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:35:30am

Then a jerk from Minnesota has to weigh in:

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Kragar  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:39:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:41:55am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:43:24am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Does Mr. Trump do his own tweets? I find it difficult to believe he knew that little factoid.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:44:34am
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freetoken  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:49:21am

South Park does a hilarious send-up of all those 23andMe and Ancestry commercials by mashing them together:

southpark.cc.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:49:43am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 1:09:35am

This is horrible.

kansascity.com (about fourteen hours ago)

The details of a transgender teen’s gruesome killing have shocked a Missouri community and sparked speculation that it was a hate crime. The victim had come out earlier this year.

Ally Steinfeld, 17, was stabbed and her mutilated body was burned earlier this month at a residence in Cabool, Mo., in the Ozarks, police say. Three people have been charged with murder. One other faces less severe charges.

“I still don’t know who in their right minds would do something like that,” said Linda Camara, who is close friends with one of Steinfeld’s cousins. “Killing someone is very bad, but I mean to do it … oh my God, to do it like that. Just … I … I … oh, God. I just can’t even see someone doing that.”

Camara told The Star that she believes Steinfeld’s gender identity played a role in the killing.

Steinfeld was 17 and had posted on social media accounts that she was trans.

(more at the Kansas City Star)

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 1:13:56am
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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 1:23:53am
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freetoken  Sep 27, 2017 • 1:28:56am

re: #120 JordanRules

TAKE THEIR FUNDING AWAY!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 1:33:02am

re: #121 freetoken

TAKE THEIR FUNDING AWAY!

they’re working on it, I assure you. those folks will be lucky if they do not have to pay for their own trip home

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majii  Sep 27, 2017 • 1:38:33am

Meet Joseph P. Mackey. He’s denying the charges. A detective in the case says he’s a danger to society and believes he will offend again. His bail was set at $50,000. He quickly paid it and is out of lockup.

“A former Blue Springs, Mo., physician faces multiple sex charges involving improper activity with a teenage boy in eastern Jackson County over many years, Jackson County Prosecutor Jean Peters Baker announced August 17, 2015.

Joseph T. Mackey, 43 (dob 4/22/1972), of Lee’s Summit, faces eight counts of Statutory Sodomy in the Second Degree.

According to court records, the victim told Blue Springs police that he first met Mackey, then a physician in Blue Springs, when he was 11 years old, through scouting.

Later, the victim said Mackey introduced him to alcohol during a trip to St. Louis. Soon after, the victim, then 15, spent the night at Mackey’s home in Lee’s Summit where they touched each other and Mackey also engaged in oral sex with the victim.
lstribune.net

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 1:42:24am

While the Koch Bros. and wealthy Texas donors are threatening to withhold money from the GOP:

House Democrats Break Fundraising Record with $6.26 Million Haul (goes to The Hill)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 1:42:37am

re: #123 majii

this will be spun as proof of homosexual perverts corrupting our youth

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 1:45:41am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

this will be spun as proof of homosexual perverts corrupting our youth

My guess is it’s proof of conservative perverts corrupting our youth. Are Missouri donor records public?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 1:46:21am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

While the Koch Bros. and wealthy Texas donors are threatening to withhold money from the GOP:

House Democrats Break Fundraising Record with $6.26 Million Haul (goes to The Hill)

This from newsmax columnist Andy Bloom:

The other day I received a call from one of many Republican organizations that regularly solicits donations from me. I almost felt sorry for the guy making the call.

The timbre of my voice and my blood pressure rose as I barked, “No, not a dime. Call back when Congress repeals Obamacare.” Undeterred, the phone solicitor began a pitch for electing a 60-seat Republican U.S. Senate. “We’ve got the House, the Senate, the White House. If not now, they never will. The spigot is turned off.”

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 1:52:41am
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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 1:59:32am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 27, 2017 • 2:00:04am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they’re working on it, I assure you. those folks will be lucky if they do not have to pay for their own trip home

I hope they’re not dependent on military or governmental aircraft to get out of where they’re at.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 2:17:02am

New York Times’s Maggie Haberman Has Chosen to Be a Dick Today (goes to Wonkette)

Ms. Haberman wrote a piece talking about White House staffers using private E-mail.

That sparked a Twitter exchange between Ms. Haberman and Nate Silver (captured by Wonkette), where Haberman attacked Silver when he called out a certain New York Times reporter endlessly obsessed with a certain candidate’s E-mails.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 2:20:13am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 2:27:10am

Noting AntifaBoston’s geolocation at Twitter:

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 2:34:51am

I’m a Marxist Feminist Slut, How Do I Find an Open Relationship

Where The Nation crosses Das Capital with a Cosmopolitan help column… .

Dear Liza, 


I’m a 32-year-old woman who would like to have kids and a life partner in the not-so-distant future. And lucky me! I’ve recently started dating an excellent candidate. But I can’t even pretend to think it’s possible (or desirable) to have sex with just one person for the rest of my life or even, frankly, for a few years. 


Monogamy feels antithetical to the type of feminism and anticapitalism I subscribe to. I am repulsed by the idea of being a man’s property. Also, monogamy—like capitalism—requires us to believe in a false scarcity: that we have to struggle for every little bit and that everything we gain comes at someone else’s expense. The kind of liberatory future I’d like to see is one of abundance and generosity and sharing. One of the few places we can experiment with that now is in our love lives. 


But ALL the decent men I’ve dated are really opposed to open relationships, while the men I’ve slept with who say they fancy the idea don’t ever stick around long enough for the “relationship” part of an open relationship. 


(more at The Nation)

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 2:53:13am

My wife is listening to the Skeptoid podcast …

Tonight, they are weighing in on prominent flat earthers.

Things you learn: Tila Tequila, B list porn star and noted Nazi hanger on is also a flat earther.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 2:59:35am

Monday Night Football ratings soar. So much winning (for the NFL, not Trump).

addictinginfo.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 3:03:09am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹

Monday Night Football ratings soar. So much winning (for the NFL, not Trump).

addictinginfo.com

but only to see who is kneeling for the anthem, then they switch to WWF because the NFL is not violent enough…

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Timothy Watson  Sep 27, 2017 • 3:07:39am

I’ll pay someone $5 if they go to work in my stead.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 3:11:36am

starherald.com

Bass Pro Shops completed its purchase of Cabela’s. Bass Pro Shops will move Cabela’s headquarters from Sidney, Nebr. to Springfield, Mo. (it’s own headquarters).

It’s unclear what will happen to the employees at Cabela’s former headquarters in Sidney, Nebraska, a town of about 6,800 people six hours west of Omaha. The company employed as many as 2,000 there in recent years. Bass Pro did not respond to questions from The [Omaha] World-Herald about what would happen next with Nebraska workers; Bass Pro has said in the past that it would keep some presence in Nebraska.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 3:20:05am

Fire at Ecuador’s embassy in DC.
starherald.com

A fire broke out early Wednesday at the Ecuadorean Embassy in the nation’s capital.

District of Columbia fire and EMS described it in a Twitter post as a two-alarm fire and reported the blaze had been brought under control. Flames could be seen rising from the roof of the structure, just after midnight Wednesday, in a neighborhood that is home to some embassies.

Emergency equipment was remaining on the scene as daybreak approached, and traffic congestion was likely in the area at the start of the morning rush hour.

WRC-TV reported that more than 100 firefighters fought the blaze for about 2 hours and that one firefighter was taken to a hospital for treatment.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 4:04:15am

Delta student claims atheism caused school to drop her grade

Denver ABC Channel 7.

A Delta County student is suing the school district for a teacher purposefully dropping a grade from 98 to 70 for criticising a Navy Seal who was a speaker. The same teacher she claims failed her after she criticised another teacher for handing out Bibles in school. She further claims the principal told her to “shut up” if she wanted to bring her grades back up.

denverpost.com

A former Delta high school student sued the Delta County Joint School District No. 50 claiming teachers gave the A-student a failing grade and sabotaged her college applications because of her atheistic views and opposition to religious proselytizing and instruction in the public school.

Denver attorneys Jeffrey Springer and Andrew Reid filed a civil lawsuit Monday on Cidney Fisk’s behalf in U.S. District Court in Denver against the district and school officials.

Fisk is seeking compensatory and punitive damages for economic losses, emotional distress and humiliation.

More at the Denver Post

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 4:10:55am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹

What the fuck is a teacher doing handing out Bibles in a public school?

This is a clear-cut case of exercising First Amendment Rights “on their own time”…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2017 • 4:29:25am

OK this made me smile

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 4:38:41am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What the fuck is a teacher doing handing out Bibles in a public school?

This is a clear-cut case of exercising First Amendment Rights “on their own time”…

Delta County is over on the west side of Colorado, and has a lot of conservative wingnuts.

Assertive Christians will always try to push the boundaries of what is lawful. School districts across the nation are under attack (see Good News Clubs).

For conservatives and libertarians that think that public schools should be abolished, that also works for them: When they get sued, and put up hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend a civil rights lawsuit, that money comes out of the school budget.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 4:43:44am

Note Christians also do that in liberal states. Jessica Ahlquist in Rhode Island was taken to task for complaining about a religious prayer banner placed in the school.

She received death threats, had to have police protection, and was called out by a Christian state representative who called her “an evil little thing” on the radio.

After the courts found in her favour, that state representative, good Christian he is, was arrested for embezzlement this year.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 4:45:12am

Fixed above comment.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 4:50:10am

Of note, the state representative that went after her (Peter Palumbo) is a Democrat. There are religious wingnuts in our party as well, though fewer.

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:11:29am

Segal goes ,on the teevee machine with Piers Fucking Morgan to say how disgusting the NFL players are and rah rah Trump.

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freetoken  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:16:10am

DW looks at the rise of the right-wing AfD:

AfD - right-wing politics in Germany | DW Documentary

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:16:24am

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Extremely wishful thinking he pisses off Strange’s former supporters and Moore’s supporters by doing this which helps propel Jones into a win in December?

Moore is the prohibitive favorite, but the DNC should help Jones anyway because he is eminently qualified, Moore is egregiously unqualified, and in politics, you never know.

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:19:57am

re: #150 Big Beautiful Door

Moore is the prohibitive favorite, but the DNC should help Jones anyway because he is eminently qualified, Moore is egregiously unqualified, and in politics, you never know.

Strange people said they would not vote for Moore in the general (Moore supporters said the same thing about Strange) and some outright said they would vote for Jones over Moore.

I certainly hope the DNC and DSCC help Jones.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:20:43am

re: #149 freetoken

DW looks at the rise of the right-wing AfD:

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Video

They are already splitting into factions and falling apart. As far as I can tell, the party is made up of some serious politicians with a right-wing agenda, numerous ideologues, with a smattering of sadistic sociopaths, xenophobes and cryptofascists thrown in.

I do not think it will be able to deal with its own success. And for now, it has the luxury of being a protest party: it does not have to come up with viable proposals or solutions, just whine and complain a lot.

But just imagine a nation in which the AfD managed to take over a major political party and convince it that it needed their support and their preferred candidate in order to succeed….and you would pretty much have the GOP and the Tea Party in 2016.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:21:45am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

New York Times’s Maggie Haberman Has Chosen to Be a Dick Today (goes to Wonkette)

Ms. Haberman wrote a piece talking about White House staffers using private E-mail.

That sparked a Twitter exchange between Ms. Haberman and Nate Silver (captured by Wonkette), where Haberman attacked Silver when he called out a certain New York Times reporter endlessly obsessed with a certain candidate’s E-mails.

When hasn’t Mess Maggie been a stenographer for the RepubliKKKlan Party?

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freetoken  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:22:52am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The documentary touches on the internal strife.

The ones who want to go Nazi are clearly upsetting the others who want what we’ll call GOP-ism here in the US.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:23:37am

re: #148 MsJ

Segal goes ,on the teevee machine with Piers Fucking Morgan to say how disgusting the NFL players are and rah rah Trump.

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A dude who literally renounced his American citizenship in favor of Putin’s country. Ya let’s listen to him question people’s patriotism.//

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:25:16am

re: #150 Big Beautiful Door

Moore is the prohibitive favorite, but the DNC should help Jones anyway because he is eminently qualified, Moore is egregiously unqualified, and in politics, you never know.

Yeah DD was telling me about Jones background. We need more men and women like him in public life.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:27:02am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

A dude who literally renounced his American citizenship in favor of Putin’s country. Ya let’s listen to him question people’s patriotism.//

I’m just waiting for Franky Graham Cracker to follow Segal’s example…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:28:33am

re: #157 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m just waiting for Franky Graham Cracker to follow Segal’s example…

You know it’s coming. Putin fanboys should not be criticizing anyone’s love of this nation.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:28:52am

re: #157 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m just waiting for Franky Graham Cracker to follow Segal’s example…

So the Kremlin’s other outlet in the USA (FOX) put him on.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:30:05am

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

“Mr. Moore, is lying for Jesus to kill people for tax cuts in your version of the New Testament?”

Moore wants to impose a big tax hike on retirees in order to give a huge tax cut to the rich. That might help Jones in the election.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:32:41am

re: #82 wheat-dogg

I was spared that particular horror, first by a low number in the draft lottery and then by Nixon ending the draft entirely. My mom was ready to send me to Canada. Not sure what my dad would have said about that.

Glad you didn’t have to make that choice.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:33:06am

The sun is coming up … that’s my cue to hit the rack.

Catch y’all later.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:35:53am

if the wingnut reaction to the nfl protests serves to dethrone football as the pinnacle of american culture and the established church, something useful will have been accomplished

anyway, having rejected disneyland and the nfl not to mention other previously anodyne american institutions as contrary to the principles of the wingnut religion, i don’t know why they haven’t figured out that it is them and not the nfl that is out of step with america

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:37:39am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹

The sun is coming up … that’s my cue to hit the rack.

Catch y’all later.

your sleeping arrangements sound somewhat uncomfortable

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:43:52am

re: #164 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

your sleeping arrangements sound somewhat uncomfortable

It’s a tough life. :-)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:44:09am

I honestly find the Vietnam documentary extremely relevant to what’s going on right now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:46:13am

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹

My wife is listening to the Skeptoid podcast …

Tonight, they are weighing in on prominent flat earthers.

Things you learn: Tila Tequila, B list porn star and noted Nazi hanger on is also a flat earther.

Crazy woman is crazy. Film at 11:00.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:48:31am

re: #167 Big Beautiful Door

Crazy woman is crazy. Film at 11:00.

Stick to porn:.//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:48:38am

crazy man is awake:

don’t know what to make of this one:

he’s delusional:

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:49:36am

Once again, Donny’s babbling says a lot more than he’d like:

First stop, a trip into fantasy-land:

According to Politico, Trump praised Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) before admitting it’s probably time for him to begin working with the other side of the aisle if he wants any legislative wins.

“Maybe I’ll make a deal with the Democrats. They’re calling me like crazy. Can we make a deal? Can we make a deal?” he told the audience.

Translation: The White House has been desperately calling Nancy and Chuck to beg for some sort of “deal” so Donny can get another “win” to celebrate in the papers.

Next stop, BS internet rumors:

Trump also addressed his ongoing NFL player battle about standing instead of kneeling during the American National Anthem.

“They have a rule, you can’t dance in the end zone, you can’t wear pink socks, one guy’s mother had breast cancer and they wouldn’t let him, you can’t do anything! But you’re allowed to sit down for the national anthem,” Trump said during his 40-minute speech.

*snip*

All Goodell had to do was say there’s rules and you can’t do it, suspend him for a couple games, you would never have had this,” Trump told the audience. “Now you have this whole thing going and it’s a very dangerous thing ‘cause we cannot let anyone disrespect our country like that.”

Considering the number of wingnut sites insisting that there exists a rule against kneeling/sitting during the National Anthem despite nobody being able to actually quote the rule in full or show it in the official rule book, there’s no telling where Donny first heard this BS. But I do find amusement in his belief that the way to end protests is to punish the protestors, something that has totally failed to work for him so far.

But let’s end on the line that shows just how much of a shitshow the last year has been:

Donors to the event were required to pay between $35,000 and $250,000 a couple to attend.

Stories like this should be rubbed in the face of every fucking Bro who tried to argue that Trump was closer to the working class than Hillary because people paid three figures to attend a fundraiser dinner with her.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:49:52am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

crazy man is awake:

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Whoa boy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:50:27am
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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:51:32am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

crazy man is awake:

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The short translation is Donny is going to return to portraying the failure to kill ACA as the fault of McConnell for not axing the filibuster than his own failure to actually do anything but sit on his ass and wait for the bill to come to him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:51:38am

re: #170 Targetpractice

Once again, Donny’s babbling says a lot more than he’d like:

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First stop, a trip into fantasy-land:

Translation: The White House has been desperately calling Nancy and Chuck to beg for some sort of “deal” so Donny can get another “win” to celebrate in the papers.

Next stop, BS internet rumors:

*snip*

Considering the number of wingnut sites insisting that there exists a rule against kneeling/sitting during the National Anthem despite nobody being able to actually quote the rule in full or show it in the official rule book, there’s no telling where Donny first heard this BS. But I do find amusement in his belief that the way to end protests is to punish the protestors, something that has totally failed to work for him so far.

But let’s end on the line that shows just how much of a shitshow the last year has been:

Stories like this should be rubbed in the face of every fucking Bro who tried to argue that Trump was closer to the working class than Hillary because people paid three figures to attend a fundraiser dinner with her.

He’s such a bullshit artist and yeah this idea that he was closer to the working class was laughable at best.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:52:12am

He really does live in alternate reality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:52:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:54:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:55:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:56:53am
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2017 • 5:59:53am

re: #173 Targetpractice

The short translation is Donny is going to return to portraying the failure to kill ACA as the fault of McConnell for not axing the filibuster than his own failure to actually do anything but sit on his ass and wait for the bill to come to him.

It failed because 3 out of 52 GOP Senators and all 48 Democrats couldn’t swallow killing their own constituents in order to shovel more money to billionaires, and one didn’t think the body count was high enough. Most of the other Republicans were ready to vote for anything McConnell told them to vote for, no matter how much damage it did.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:00:51am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dingell channeling Bron, nice!

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:01:32am

Pay attention to the wording in Trump’s twit…er, tweet:

We will have the votes for Healthcare but not for the reconciliation deadline of Friday, after which we need 60. Get rid of Filibuster Rule!

“Will have”? You either have them or you don’t, Comrade Combover. If you don’t have them, then odds are you never will, at least not soon enough to make a difference. And if you do have them, then you need to call McConnell because he’s already done the counting and says the votes aren’t there. If you have a list of the 50 “aye” votes, then you need to make that shit public today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:05:43am
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:09:55am

re: #182 Targetpractice

Pay attention to the wording in Trump’s twit…er, tweet:

“Will have”? You either have them or you don’t, Comrade Combover. If you don’t have them, then odds are you never will, at least not soon enough to make a difference. And if you do have them, then you need to call McConnell because he’s already done the counting and says the votes aren’t there. If you have a list of the 50 “aye” votes, then you need to make that shit public today.

Trump is just bullshitting, as usual. Anyway this is why I’m glad Roy Moore beat Luther Strange. Yes Moore is a theocratic, racist homophobe, but he will make it harder for McConnell to pass bad legislation by joining Cruz and Paul in demanding it be even worse. For our purposes, a crazy GOP Senator is better than a compliant McConnell tool. I’ve made repeated phone calls to Rand Paul to oppose “Obamacare lite” which has helped keep Obamacare in place.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:11:28am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. While Puerto Rico swelters and the Trump admin fails millions of Americans by not rushing aid to help, he’s busy deleting tweets backing Strange in his extremist cage match with Roy Moore.

Priorities.

The GOP isn’t rushing to deliver aid package to Puerto Rico either. Instead, they’re busy working on a aid package to millionaires. They’re looking to make massive tax cuts for the richest of Americans, while everyone else gets scraps and the burdens shifted from the rich to everyone else.

Priorities.

The GOP is looking the other way as top Trump admin people used private emails in direct violation of the law (but those same GOPers attacked Clinton when using private emails were discouraged but not prohibited - that change came after Clinton).

Priorities.

The media still isn’t treating the email issue on the same level as when Clinton was supposedly doing something wrong. Widespread use of private emails by the Trump cabal of cronies doesn’t get nearly the same attention by the NYT and other media outlets, because …

Priorities.

Price and Mnuchin both used charter/USAF planes to jet around the country on taxpayer dime and neither has been forced to resign or quit.

Priorities.

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jeffreyw  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:11:57am

Imgur

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Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:15:09am

re: #185 lawhawk

Priorities.

There are enough well-founded charges to indict Trump out tomorrow: conflict of interest, obstruction of justice, collusion with a foreign government to influence and election, but as long as the GOP has a majority, it is not likely to act until they find their grasp on power seriously threatened.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:20:34am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are enough well-founded charges to indict Trump out tomorrow: conflict of interest, obstruction of justice, collusion with a foreign government to influence and election, but as long as the GOP has a majority, it is not likely to act until they find their grasp on power seriously threatened.

Correctamundo.

The earliest Congress is likely to act is January 2019 (assuming that the House flips to Democratic control).

State prosecutions of Trump officials could begin well before that in places like NY and CA or NJ (presaging the federal action).

NY and CA could see potential prosecutions as early as this year. NY AG Scheiderman is taking the lead on this, but other places where Trump or his cronies operated could also act - NJ could see prosecutions as early as next year as a Democrat is likely to win the governorship and state prosecutors move against Kushner and his cronies. They could also go after Trump for emoluments clause violations at Bedminster.

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I cannot.  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:20:35am

re: #186 jeffreyw

I want to see those jars in my mailbox…

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:21:28am

re: #186 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Those images bring back memories. My dad was a heck of a tomato gardener and at this time of the year we would have several bushel baskets full of ripe tomatoes.

My task was the kid that crushed them and strained them with the wood pestle in the tall truncated colander with the little holes in it on a stand.

Them my mom would slowly cook the watery juice down until it was almost a tomato sauce. That was her ‘juice.’ That homemade juice/sauce was so damn good. Yummmm.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:21:34am

Looks like Steven Seagal has turned into Fat Gorka:

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:22:03am

For the morning crew, totally OT:

Some folks may remember that back in March I lost a good friend. He led a singular life so his sickness wasn’t a complete surprise. He likely already knew before the diagnosis, then fought in his particularly obstinate way. Still, it is never easy. He married my oldest, dearest friend in February, about a month before he died. They had been together like 15 years. She is still here.

As I wrote last week in “What’s Normal”, while sitting around during Irma, I had lots of time to muse about stuff. I thought you’d like to meet these two through the speech I didn’t actually give. At the time, I couldn’t…

Eulogy for a pair

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I cannot.  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:23:16am

re: #191 lawhawk

Have we seen Seagal and Dr. Nazi-adjacent Gorka together?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:25:01am

re: #191 lawhawk

Looks like Steven Seagal has turned into Fat Gorka:

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And the irony that a Russian citizen is lecturing his former American countrymen/women on patriotism just slides right by the viewers…what a country!

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:26:40am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are enough well-founded charges to indict Trump out tomorrow: conflict of interest, obstruction of justice, collusion with a foreign government to influence and election, but as long as the GOP has a majority, it is not likely to act until they find their grasp on power seriously threatened.

Their power is under threat right now.

Yesterday was a good indication. Roy Moore beats an ‘established’ candidate in a primary. Coker announces he is out, due mostly because he isn’t crazy enough. And Trump is so all over the place no Republican can count on him to not scuttle their runs and drive a bus over them. Mitch and Paulie can attest to this.

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:29:23am

re: #186 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

That’s like a horror movie in three slides if you’re a tomato.

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:30:18am

re: #195 ObserverArt

Their power is under threat right now.

Yesterday was a good indication. Roy Moore beats an ‘established’ candidate in a primary. Coker announces he is out, due mostly because he isn’t crazy enough. And Trump is so all over the place no Republican can count on him to not scuttle their runs and drive a bus over them. Mitch and Paulie can attest to this.

Trump never backed Strange. In fact, you can’t find any tweets about him endorsing ‘Big Luther’ because they don’t exist.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:31:22am

Goddamnit… Kristol is making sense:

The reality is that the GOP is pushing a reactionary know-nothing extremism the likes of which we haven’t seen in decades. GOP wants to roll back decades of social progress and impose a religious theocracy. Moore’s win last night was another sign of the moral/ethical rot of the GOP.

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:34:55am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:42:37am

re: #198 lawhawk

Goddamnit… Kristol is making sense:

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The reality is that the GOP is pushing a reactionary know-nothing extremism the likes of which we haven’t seen in decades. GOP wants to roll back decades of social progress and impose a religious theocracy. Moore’s win last night was another sign of the moral/ethical rot of the GOP.

I am certain that they’re going to nominate Corey Stewart to run against Kaine here especially if Ed Gillespie loses to Ralph Northam in the gubernatorial race. The GOP is at the point of no return. I’d rather have the loons in the LP as the opposition than the GOP.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:43:42am

As if we needed further proof that Trump voters are morons:

Trump voter Mark O’Brien, reflecting upon the Republican Party’s recent failure to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, said that while Trump was good at coming up with catchy slogans, he hasn’t shown that he knows how to negotiate and govern.

“The slogan doesn’t cut it for me anymore,” O’Brien said. “He’s had nine months.”

And you had longer than nine months to clue in to the reality that all he had was a slogan. What does that say about you, Mark?

Trump voter Jordan Jacquay similarly noted that “‘repeal and replace’ was more of a slogan than a plan,” as evidenced by the fact that the Republican Party had no concrete replacement plan for the Affordable Care Act ready to go despite vowing to repeal it for the past seven years.

“You can’t replace Obamacare with something that’s not going to cover preexisting conditions,” Jacquay explained. “And it’s why, so far, Republicans have been unsuccessful.”

I fear I’m in danger of internal injury if I keep trying to hold back the laughter inspired by thinking like this. Jordan, the GOP has been railing against those regulations for years, even as they bullshitted you into believing they’d maintain them under a “replacement.” If you actually bought into the idea that they’d save you money on insurance while keeping those regs, I’ve got some beachfront property in Nevada going for cheap you might interested in…

And finally, Trump voter Payton Isner said he would like to see negotiations between Republicans and Democrats to forge a permanent solution to dealing with health care in the United States.

“It doesn’t need to be done under the table, and it doesn’t need to be done in the back rooms of Congress,” he said.

$20 says Payton spent the previous 8 years railing against bipartisanship because it would mean the black man in the Oval Office would take the credit for it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:45:16am

re: #201 Targetpractice

As if we needed further proof that Trump voters are morons:

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And you had longer than nine months to clue in to the reality that all he had was a slogan. What does that say about you, Mark?

I fear I’m in danger of internal injury if I keep trying to hold back the laughter inspired by thinking like this. Jordan, the GOP has been railing against those regulations for years, even as they bullshitted you into believing they’d maintain them under a “replacement.” If you actually bought into the idea that they’d save you money on insurance while keeping those regs, I’ve got some beachfront property in Nevada going for cheap you might interested in…

$20 says Payton spent the previous 8 years railing against bipartisanship because it would mean the black man in the Oval Office would take the credit for it.

They are idiots and I have no problem calling them that.

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:45:20am

Another shoe is about to drop…

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:46:12am

re: #201 Targetpractice

As if we needed further proof that Trump voters are morons:

But Make America Great Again! It’s on his hat!

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:46:38am

These are funny:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:47:07am

re: #203 darthstar

Another shoe is about to drop…

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He’s such a fucking baby.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:49:04am

re: #203 darthstar

Another shoe is about to drop…

Distraction has worked so far, he is not about to change his tack…

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:51:49am
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darthstar  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:52:03am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:52:56am

All he does is either brag or complain or some combination of the two. Goddamn this man is not only an embarrassment to the country, he’s an embarrassment to humanity.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:55:20am

re: #197 darthstar

Trump never backed Strange. In fact, you can’t find any tweets about him endorsing ‘Big Luther’ because they don’t exist.

Yeah, his rewriting (deleting) history is once again very telling of his mindset.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:56:36am

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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jeffreyw  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:58:02am

re: #189 I cannot.

I want to see those jars in my mailbox…

Send me a post paid envelope!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:58:17am
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jeffreyw  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:59:42am

re: #190 ObserverArt

Those images bring back memories. My dad was a heck of a tomato gardener and at this time of the year we would have several bushel baskets full of ripe tomatoes.

My task was the kid that crushed them and strained them with the wood pestle in the tall truncated colander with the little holes in it on a stand.

Them my mom would slowly cook the watery juice down until it was almost a tomato sauce. That was her ‘juice.’ That homemade juice/sauce was so damn good. Yummmm.

That there is enough tomato soup for a couple of dozen grilled cheese sammiches.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 6:59:48am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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You can’t even repeal Obamacare with your party controlling both Houses of Congress. You suck.

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freetoken  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:00:53am

Just think - when Twitter allows Trump 280 characters, the derp will double.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:02:31am

re: #205 Belafon

These are funny:

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The historical revisionism has already begun. By Friday, wingnuts across the country will be convinced that Trump was always a Roy Moore supporter.

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jeffreyw  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:03:10am

re: #196 darthstar

That’s like a horror movie in three slides if you’re a tomato.

That’s payback!

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:03:42am

re: #217 freetoken

Just think - when Twitter allows Trump 280 characters, the derp will double.

Charles offers a tweet-storm app for us. Lots of people do multi-tweet rants. Idiots will still be idiots in 280 characters. Even Trump writes multi-tweet nonsense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:05:47am

I posted this earlier, but I believe this attitude is going to spread to the point that it really threatens the GOP’s grip on power.

From Andy Bloom at newsmax

The other day I received a call from one of many Republican organizations that regularly solicits donations from me. I almost felt sorry for the guy making the call.

The timbre of my voice and my blood pressure rose as I barked, “No, not a dime. Call back when Congress repeals Obamacare.” Undeterred, the phone solicitor began a pitch for electing a 60-seat Republican U.S. Senate. “We’ve got the House, the Senate, the White House. If not now, they never will. The spigot is turned off.” I exclaimed. Apparently, I don’t understand, “this is complicated.” Actually, I understand. I spent several years as a U.S. House-staffer. Legislating is not easy, at least for Republicans. This (repealing Obamacare), however, remains the central promise all Republicans made campaigning over the past seven years.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:07:39am

Boehner’s prediction is looking more and more right by the day that they’ll never repeal ACA. I think this is a lesson though to those who want the Dems and left to go all in on single payer though.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:11:34am
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dangerman  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:12:04am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Embedded content]Virtually no President has accomplished what we have accomplished in the first 9 months

forget “virtually”

really
no president has accomplished lower approval ratings than you this early in

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:13:44am

re: #219 jeffreyw

That’s payback!

robin williams once said “we’re going find out that martians are 8 feet tall, black and pissed

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:20:43am

Can I just say this. Nothing says white privilege like nominating a man who has twice been removed from his job for refusing to follow the law and then to lecture black people to “just listen to the cops and follow the law and you’ll be all right.” Moore being nominated is proof that conservatives are full of shit when they claim to be for rule of law. I mean we knew that already when tehy made Kim Davis a hero but actually nominating and possibly electing Moore this December will further prove it.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:24:47am

re: #62 DodgerFan1988

The Trump Administration withholding aid, food, medical supplies from millions of desperate Puerto Ricans. When the Soviet Union did that to Ukrainians in the 1930’s, it was called a genocide. When Pakistan did that to East Pakistan (Bangladesh) in 1971, it was called a genocide. When Indonesia did that to East Timor in 1975, it was called a genocide.
We’re seeing our own government trying to commit genocide of our citizens in Puerto Rico.

i know it’s difficult rhetorically because they have to be identified some way.
I’d like there to be no “separation”. They are citizens, no different from “floridians” or “texans”:

The Trump Administration withholding aid, food, medical supplies from millions of desperate Americans

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:25:02am

From the “personal responsibility” file:

We start off with the act of contrition:

Washington County fire chief Paul Smith has resigned in wake of his use of a racial slur to refer to Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin.

Followed immediately by the excuse-making:

“The media dragged my fire company and township into this as well as my family,” Smith told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in a statement.

The Steelers coach explained to the press that he had decided to keep his team in a stadium tunnel to avoid dealing with the controversy surrounding the American National Anthem. Smith then called Tomlin a “no good N***er” on his Facebook page. He then added “Yes, I said it.”

He also blamed the media for labeling him a racist.

I am not the racist the media portrays me as,” Smith said.

Paul, I’m gonna level with ya, most white people who I’ve heard insist “I’m not a racist” did so after they did something blatantly racist and were called on it. You don’t vomit forth words like “ni-CLANG” as an insult, much less follow up with “Yes, I said it,” and expect people to believe that you’re “not a racist.” Your buddies at the bar may buy that bullshit, but that’s because they’re fellow closeted racists who laugh at your racist jokes and rant about that “ni-CLANG” who cost them their job while insisting that they’ve a black friend who’s “one of the good ones.”

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:25:32am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:29:55am

re: #228 Targetpractice

From the “personal responsibility” file:

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We start off with the act of contrition:

Followed immediately by the excuse-making:

Paul, I’m gonna level with ya, most white people who I’ve heard insist “I’m not a racist” did so after they did something blatantly racist and were called on it. You don’t vomit forth words like “ni-CLANG” as an insult, much less follow up with “Yes, I said it,” and expect people to believe that you’re “not a racist.” Your buddies at the bar may buy that bullshit, but that’s because they’re fellow closeted racists who laugh at your racist jokes and rant about that “ni-CLANG” who cost them their job while insisting that they’ve a black friend who’s “one of the good ones.”

You literally called a man a n-word and said “Yes, I said it.” Own up to your fucking words, you whiny dickhead and stop blaming other people. You chose to post those words on your social media. Man I’m so sick of people who say racist shit trying to make themeslves into the “real victims.”

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:30:04am

re: #197 darthstar

Trump never backed Strange. In fact, you can’t find any tweets about him endorsing ‘Big Luther’ because they don’t exist.

A perfect example of how any moderate* GOP candidate can count on Trump support.

You can’t

*moderate to a new degree. A GOP moderate now is what was crazy 20 years ago.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:30:11am

re: #228 Targetpractice

Bet if we peeked in his closet, it’s full of khakis and white polo shirts.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:30:14am

re: #76 KGxvi

Earlier I made the comparison between certain Republicans and sports fans… it’s all about the team, we hate that guy until we trade for him (or he signs in free agency); we love this guy until he gets traded (or leaves in free agency). Being consistent is for suckers

New York Magazine - On Tribalism

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bratwurst  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:32:50am

Not at all surprisingly, the sidemen (except Steve Vai) who were supposedly committed to the Zappa hologram tour are distancing themselves from the idea.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:34:19am

Personal responsibility*

*Only if you’re a poor minority on welfare.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:34:51am

Anyone watching Confession Tapes? Fascinating show.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:35:00am

re: #210 HappyWarrior

All he does is either brag or complain or some combination of the two. Goddamn this man is not only an embarrassment to the country, he’s an embarrassment to humanity.

If he had any personal awareness he would realize he is an embarrassment to himself. Awareness personal or otherwise is not evident.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:39:21am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

Moore being nominated is proof that conservatives are full of shit when they claim to be for rule of law.

They mean GOD’s Law, and THEIR interpretation of it…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:40:28am

re: #238 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They mean GOD’s Law, and THEIR interpretation of it…

Of course and their problem with Sharia Law isn’t that it’s religious law being enforced on secular society, it’s not it’s NOT their religion’s law being enforced.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:43:58am

re: #232 GlutenFreeJesus

Bet if we peeked in his closet, it’s full of khakis and white polo shirts.

I’m thinking more like camo tees, buttcrack dad jeans and ballcaps

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:45:51am

Speaking of personal responsibility:

CNN’s Jim Acosta reports that “multiple White House sources” have told his network’s White House team that Trump is “embarrassed and pissed” about Luther Strange’s loss to Roy Moore, the disgraced former judge who believes that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were God’s retribution against the United States for tolerating homosexuality.

Good to see that the White House’s efforts to root out leaking have worked./////

According to CNN, Trump is placing the blame squarely on Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY), who spent a lot of time and money trying to get Strange elected to the Senate. Trump also reportedly feels that he has been “outdone” by Steve Bannon, the former White House political strategist who campaigned heavily for Moore despite Trump’s embrace of Strange.

CNN reporter Kaitlan Collins subsequently appeared on the network to explain that Trump viewed Strange as a “low-energy” candidate whom he was strong-armed into supporting by the GOP establishment.

And there you have the wingnut excuse going forward: Strange was McConnell’s choice, while Trump was always for Moore and only supported Strange at Yertle’s insistence. It’s not that Strange became toxic after Donny wrapped his bloated orange arms around him, he was always a bad choice and Trump’s endorsement had nothing to do with his loss.

The president quickly deleted all tweets he had posted praising Strange after Moore’s victory in the Republican Alabama Senate primary, and he has vowed to campaign for Moore to help ensure the seat stays in Republican hands.

Considering there’s a Trump tweet for every occasion, I’m sure we’ll soon find one or more tweets of him accusing Obama of being responsible for DNC electoral losses and arguing that endorsement from the man was bad for a candidate’s chances.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:48:06am

re: #241 Targetpractice

Has anyone checked to see if Trump ever tweeted that Moore is to extreme, or that the Ten Commandments should not be displayed on government property?

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:50:14am

re: #242 Belafon

Has anyone checked to see if Trump ever tweeted that Moore is to extreme, or that the Ten Commandments should not be displayed on government property?

Not to my knowledge, but I’m sure there’s probably something in the archives.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:51:16am

Well we know that Trump violated at least one of the Ten Commandmentss. Someone should ask Moore about that.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:53:22am

Has Bannon been called in to Mueller’s office for a discussion yet? I can’t remember if he has even been asked questions by either the senate or house investigation committees.

There might be a split forming between The Big Don and Grungy Steve. It could be setting up a decent time to apply some heat on Bannon. He could easily turn against Trump to save his own ass. I know I wouldn’t trust that dirt bag.

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ipsos  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:59:40am

re: #166 HappyWarrior

I honestly find the Vietnam documentary extremely relevant to what’s going on right now.

Painfully so.

I was in tears (again) at the end of last night’s episode. Bracing for tonight’s.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:02:03am

re: #246 ipsos

Painfully so.

I was in tears (again) at the end of last night’s episode. Bracing for tonight’s.

I know. Last night was very sad. I hadn’t heard about what happened at Jackson State following Kent State. And of course My Lai. Hugh Thompson was a hero. Makes me sick that the Nixon administration tried to smear the men who sought to report the truth on that.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:04:43am

re: #203 darthstar

Another shoe is about to drop…

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:09:41am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:10:13am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:10:33am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Made my morning!

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bratwurst  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:10:55am

This fucker didn’t delete any of his nasty Rosie O’Donnell tweets like this before running for president, but…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:12:29am

re: #252 bratwurst

This fucker didn’t delete any of his nasty Rosie O’Donnell tweets like this before running for president, but…

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I am not even a fan of Rosie’s but he’s such a fucking jerk.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:16:42am

He doesn’t talk like a President. Hell he doesn’t even talk like an adult.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:17:19am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

He doesn’t talk like a President. Hell he doesn’t even talk like an adult.

He’s a 70-year old ill-tempered toddler.

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bratwurst  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:18:05am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:18:22am

re: #255 Dr Lizardo

He’s a 70-year old ill-tempered toddler.

Yep. He’s nothing but a brat.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:19:52am

re: #256 bratwurst

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Why are you libs so intolerant of the transgendered? //

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:20:29am

So I sat down last night and watched the first three episodes of The Orville and the first two of Star Trek: Discovery. And it’s sad that, as a decades-long Trek fan, I look forward to the former while I want the latter permanently erased from existence.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:20:54am

re: #256 bratwurst

Now I admit, I have a thing about wristwatches. Anyone here hazard a guess as to what kind of watch Jared’s wearing?

Looks to small to be an Officine Panerai and it’s clearly not a Rolex or an Omega (at least not a model I’m familiar with). Not Audemars Piguet either.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:21:46am

Let’s go ahead and get this over with shall we?

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:22:34am

re: #261 Dave In Austin

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:23:44am

re: #262 FormerDirtDart

That’s a face only a steroid could love.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:24:09am

re: #262 FormerDirtDart

Looks like Stevie’s been hitting the all-you-can-eat taco buffet a little too frequently.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:24:10am

re: #262 FormerDirtDart

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He even looks like a Russian villain in a movie. Gotta love how Morgan had him on, a man who literally renounced his American citizenship and is a friend of Putin no less to insult the athletes. Remember when we’re told “Love it or leave it”, Stevie actually left it.

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ipsos  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:24:42am

re: #260 Dr Lizardo

Now I admit, I have a thing about wristwatches. Anyone here hazard a guess as to what kind of watch Jared’s wearing?

Looks to small to be an Officine Panerai and it’s clearly not a Rolex or an Omega (at least not a model I’m familiar with). Not Audemars Piguet either.

It’s a Swatch.

I’m not kidding.

(Hey, Schumer wears one, too.)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:25:08am

re: #264 Dr Lizardo

Looks like Stevie’s been hitting the all-you-can-eat taco buffet a little too frequently.

Baba’s Chicken Kiev and Borscht on the corner of St. Basil’s and two blocks from the Lenin Mausoleum gets three reddish stars on Russian yelp.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:26:50am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

He even looks like a Russian villain in a movie. Gotta love how Morgan had him on, a man who literally renounced his American citizenship and is a friend of Putin no less to insult the athletes. Remember when we’re told “Love it or leave it”, Stevie actually left it.

Seb Gorka - Stephen Seagal’s other Evil Brother
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:28:07am

re: #268 Dave In Austin

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The good brother is probably doing volunteer work in Puerto Rico as we speak.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:28:25am

Prob posted, but this is what he’s responding to.

Gaslighting

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:28:30am

re: #264 Dr Lizardo

Looks like Stevie’s been hitting the all-you-can-eat taco borscht buffet a little too frequently.

FTFY

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:29:28am

re: #266 ipsos

It’s a Swatch.

I’m not kidding.

(Hey, Schumer wears one, too.)

Serious? With the kind of $$$ Kushner has he’s wearing a Swatch? Jeez.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:29:39am

re: #261 Dave In Austin

Let’s go ahead and get this over with shall we?

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The only good thing I can say about Segal is he has a hell of a guitar collection - including guitars owned by Albert King, Muddy Waters, Albert Collins, Jimi Hendrix and John Lee Hooker.

He’s not much of a player, but his collection is insane.

(Edited for clarity.)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:30:03am

re: #270 Stanley Sea

Prop posted, but this is what he’s responding to.

Gaslighting

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That may be why Bernie’s so reluctant to speak up on the Russian issue. He knows he benefited from it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:30:21am

re: #264 Dr Lizardo

Looks like Stevie’s been hitting the all-you-can-eat taco buffet a little too frequently.

Stevie’s been like that for awhile now, which is hilarious because he still tries to make action films when he looks and glistens like a fresh-baked ham.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:31:10am

re: #273 makeitstop

The only good thing I can say about Segal is he has a hell of a guitar collection - including Albert King, Muddy Waters, Albert Collins, Jimi Hendrix and John Lee Hooker.

He’s not much of a player, but his collection is insane.

And prolly in hock to some Russian oligarch……

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Chrysicat  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:32:15am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:33:09am

re: #275 Targetpractice

Stevie’s been like that for awhile now, which is hilarious because he still tries to make action films when he looks and glistens like a fresh-baked ham.

[Movie Guy Voice] Steven Seagal returns to the screen in Fists of Prosciutto [/Movie Guy Voice]

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:33:13am

This kid needs more sugar.
I want to see what happens

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(Bert the Turtle)  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:36:31am
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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:36:38am

re: #274 HappyWarrior

That may be why Bernie’s so reluctant to speak up on the Russian issue. He knows he benefited from it.

Bernie’s reluctant to talk about anything but Bernie or the unicorns that he’s promising to give to every American.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:37:10am

re: #281 Targetpractice

Bernie’s reluctant to talk about anything but Bernie or the unicorns that he’s promising to give to every American.

True that.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:40:47am

Oh this is going to be good

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:41:11am

This reads like a page right out of the Putin playbook…

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:41:12am

Gowdy & Cummings, now there’s an odd couple

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:42:35am

re: #283 Stanley Sea

Oh this is going to be good

“SOS John Kerry used his government server to travel to his home.” - Fox Soon

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:43:34am

re: #283 Stanley Sea

Oh this is going to be good

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I’ll call it now: GOP drag this out until people forget about why they were outraged, then quietly sentence the worst offenders to 50 lashes with a wet noodle.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:53:14am

re: #286 Belafon

“SOS John Kerry used his government server to travel to his home.” - Fox Soon

FNC will probably focus on the NCAA basketball scandal brewing. Louisville just fired Pitino.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:54:58am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

FNC will probably focus on the NCAA basketball scandal brewing. Louisville just fired Pitino.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:56:22am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh okay, didn’t see that it was only one source. They did fire their AD though.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:59:25am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:59:57am
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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:01:55am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

I know. Last night was very sad. I hadn’t heard about what happened at Jackson State following Kent State. And of course My Lai. Hugh Thompson was a hero. Makes me sick that the Nixon administration tried to smear the men who sought to report the truth on that.

I’m not watching because I just can’t.

When they discussed Kent State, did they mention the riot on the Ohio State Campus in the spring of 1970 just prior to Kent State?

Many people think that caused Ohio Governor Rhodes to freak out and get mean since the student protesters marched from OSU campus straight down High Street (a little over 2 miles) to the Ohio State House Capitol where they were met by a large police presence.

A few days later Students called a strike to call for some demands from the University. That was to happen on the huge Ohio State Oval at the center of the campus. That turned into a huge confrontation that led to an all out riot and later at night Rhodes called in the Ohio National Guard.

Supposedly, that led to Rhodes and Nixon talking about getting even tougher and then came Kent State where it all blew up. There were rumors that SDS was on campus stirring stuff up. Both politicians may have decided to make Kent State an example of the U.S. getting tough on protests.

(Where are we hearing this again???)

I was a little disappointed reading a few comments from some LGF members on their take on Kent State and the shootings. I won’t get into why as I don’t want to start the same debate wars I have been in since 1970 that can get really heated. Yes, I have heard all types of takes about the students weren’t saints and they had it coming to them.

Everyone saw the results, and not one of those kids killed or maimed had it coming to them. I wonder if Burns mentioned the one kid in the famous photo, Jeffrey Miller, who was directly targeted and shot in the head. There is much speculation that he was one of the kids that ran from the line the students were supposed to keep and either tossed back a gas canister or threw a rock and was seen well enough he could be followed and identified from the hill where the guard stopped and fired. Again, he was shot dead in the face,

What does that say? Well, a lot of people say “He had it coming”

One other thing. Did Burns mention the ROTC building that was burned down was empty and probably would have been torn down later that summer?

I know Kent State was only a part of the whole Vietnam war mess. But it happen in Ohio not far from where I lived as a kid and it was when I was 15 and very impressionable. I will never forget it and I have studied and read about it unlike anything else. I still get pissed off. It was needless.

Anyway here is a link about the OSU riot of 1970. It is covered in a pretty good story at BeachDem’s favorite Ohio political site Plunderbund.

The 1970 Ohio State Riots: Bigger And More Violent Than Kent State

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:03:37am

re: #241 Targetpractice

The president quickly deleted all tweets he had posted praising Strange after Moore’s victory in the Republican Alabama Senate primary, and he has vowed to campaign for Moore to help ensure the seat stays in Republican hands.

Is the President allowed to delete his tweets?

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:05:52am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No. It’s been pointed out since January but Twitler regime doesn’t care.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:06:08am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No he’s not. But he does whatever the fuck he wants and the “law and order” Republicans just let him do it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:09:28am

re: #291 lawhawk

According to sources, Tom Jurich was asked to fire Rick Pitino, refused, both were fired

Hey, more nostalgia! I used to work with Tom Jurich at the Athletic Departnment of Northern Arizona University, where he worked briefly in the 1980’s…I found him pretty stupid but good-natured and always seemed to have a very surprised look on his face in any unfamiliar situation and many otherwise familiar ones…

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:10:04am

re: #296 plansbandc

No he’s not. But he does whatever the fuck he wants and the “law and order” Republicans just let him do it.

Republicans are chickenhawks on all issues. For example:

They are war mongers but have no desire to serve.

They only care about deficits when Democrats are in charge.

The only use they have for “law and order” is as a weapon to use exclusively on their enemies.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:13:32am

Wow, if Pitino’s job isn’t safe, everybody better keep their heads down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:14:56am
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:14:57am

Issue with Louisville/Pitino is that they were already on probation by NCAA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:15:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:18:10am
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ipsos  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:24:05am

The replies to that Twitter Public Policy “explanation” are just brutal.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:26:30am

re: #252 bratwurst

This fucker didn’t delete any of his nasty Rosie O’Donnell tweets like this before running for president, but…

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Is deleting tweets from an official account of the President of the U.S. illegal? Are they not historical record once sent?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:27:18am

re: #305 ObserverArt

Is deleting tweets from an official account of the President of the U.S. illegal? Are they not historical record once sent?

It’s only illegal if Congress votes to prosecute him for it…

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:27:47am

re: #305 ObserverArt

Is deleting tweets from an official account of the President of the U.S. illegal? Are they not historical record once sent?

I’m hoping the National Archives has set up something to copy any tweet sent out by Trump.

Edited.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:29:57am

hahahahahahaha

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:32:07am

re: #293 ObserverArt

I’m not watching because I just can’t.

When they discussed Kent State, did they mention the riot on the Ohio State Campus in the spring of 1970 just prior to Kent State?

Many people think that caused Ohio Governor Rhodes to freak out and get mean since the student protesters marched from OSU campus straight down High Street (a little over 2 miles) to the Ohio State House Capitol where they were met by a large police presence.

A few days later Students called a strike to call for some demands from the University. That was to happen on the huge Ohio State Oval at the center of the campus. That turned into a huge confrontation that led to an all out riot and later at night Rhodes called in the Ohio National Guard.

Supposedly, that led to Rhodes and Nixon talking about getting even tougher and then came Kent State where it all blew up. There were rumors that SDS was on campus stirring stuff up. Both politicians may have decided to make Kent State an example of the U.S. getting tough on protests.

(Where are we hearing this again???)

I was a little disappointed reading a few comments from some LGF members on their take on Kent State and the shootings. I won’t get into why as I don’t want to start the same debate wars I have been in since 1970 that can get really heated. Yes, I have heard all types of takes about the students weren’t saints and they had it coming to them.

Everyone saw the results, and not one of those kids killed or maimed had it coming to them. I wonder if Burns mentioned the one kid in the famous photo, Jeffrey Miller, who was directly targeted and shot in the head. There is much speculation that he was one of the kids that ran from the line the students were supposed to keep and either tossed back a gas canister or threw a rock and was seen well enough he could be followed and identified from the hill where the guard stopped and fired. Again, he was shot dead in the face,

What does that say? Well, a lot of people say “He had it coming”

One other thing. Did Burns mention the ROTC building that was burned down was empty and probably would have been torn down later that summer?

I know Kent State was only a part of the whole Vietnam war mess. But it happen in Ohio not far from where I lived as a kid and it was when I was 15 and very impressionable. I will never forget it and I have studied and read about it unlike anything else. I still get pissed off. It was needless.

Anyway here is a link about the OSU riot of 1970. It is covered in a pretty good story at BeachDem’s favorite Ohio political site Plunderbund.

The 1970 Ohio State Riots: Bigger And More Violent Than Kent State

No, they didn’t mention the OSU riots nor did they mention that Miller was deliberately targeted. The vets they did talk to were horrified by it though.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:32:28am

re: #308 Stanley Sea

hahahahahahaha

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I guess bitching about the black guy in charge is a lot easier than you know governing.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:32:33am

re: #308 Stanley Sea

Corker may well be right……go take a look at the front page of the Drudge Report.

Headline: “More Betrayal - Republican Plan To Raise Taxes!”

Matt’s whipping up the rubes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:34:27am

It apparently has to do with their contracts and certain protocols regarding termination.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:34:36am

re: #311 Dr Lizardo

Corker may well be right……go take a look at the front page of the Drudge Report.

Headline: “More Betrayal - Republican Plan To Raise Taxes!”

Matt’s whipping up the rubes.

I don’t like Corker but I have no doubt that he will be replaced by someone even worse.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:34:43am

re: #311 Dr Lizardo

Corker may well be right……go take a look at the front page of the Drudge Report.

Headline: “More Betrayal - Republican Plan To Raise Taxes!”

Matt’s whipping up the rubes.

Heh, I can’t wait for the

LARGEST TAX INCREASE IN HISTORY!!1! stories to start showing up.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:34:45am

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:35:58am

The GOP’s only going to get worse and worse. What needs to happen is a landslide completely repudiating the right wing worldview throughout the country but that’s not going to happen.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:36:01am

re: #190 ObserverArt

Those images bring back memories. My dad was a heck of a tomato gardener and at this time of the year we would have several bushel baskets full of ripe tomatoes.

My task was the kid that crushed them and strained them with the wood pestle in the tall truncated colander with the little holes in it on a stand.

Them my mom would slowly cook the watery juice down until it was almost a tomato sauce. That was her ‘juice.’ That homemade juice/sauce was so damn good. Yummmm.

I still have my grandmother’s colander and wooden pestle. They are treasures to me!

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:36:05am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

I don’t like Corker but I have no doubt that he will be replaced by someone even worse.

Billy Ray Cyrus.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:36:20am

re: #273 makeitstop

The only good thing I can say about Segal is he has a hell of a guitar collection - including guitars owned by Albert King, Muddy Waters, Albert Collins, Jimi Hendrix and John Lee Hooker.

He’s not much of a player, but his collection is insane.

(Edited for clarity.)

That is sad.

I can honestly say I have never watched a movie that Segal was in.

Can I win one of those guitars for that? I’ll take the Hendrix one please.

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:36:37am

re: #311 Dr Lizardo

Corker may well be right……go take a look at the front page of the Drudge Report.

Headline: “More Betrayal - Republican Plan To Raise Taxes!”

Matt’s whipping up the rubes.

Makes one wonder why Corker is retiring.

HAHAHAHAHA. Who am I fooling?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:37:01am

re: #318 b.d. (bill d.)

Billy Ray Cyrus.

Cone on Achy Breaky Heart is an awful song but from what I know about BYC, he’s not a wingnut.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:37:46am

re: #278 Dr Lizardo

[Movie Guy Voice] Steven Seagal returns to the screen in Fists of Prosciutto [/Movie Guy Voice]

Ham handed!!!

Edit: Or is that fisted?

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:38:46am

re: #319 ObserverArt

That is sad.

I can honestly say I have never watched a movie that Segal was in.

Can I win one of those guitars for that? I’ll take the Hendrix one please.

He seems to be kind of predatory in how he acquired some of those guitars.

One of Freddie King’s was stolen, and he bought it. Buyers like that give honest collectors a bad name, but I’m sure Russia Boy doesn’t care about that.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:39:37am
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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:39:40am

re: #315 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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So a tweet that obviously violated Twitter rules would be allowed to remain because it was newsworthy on how Trump violated Twitter rules.

Got it…

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:39:41am

re: #319 ObserverArt

That is sad.

I can honestly say I have never watched a movie that Segal was in.

Can I win one of those guitars for that? I’ll take the Hendrix one please.

You don’t win anything for not suffering.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:40:00am

re: #322 ObserverArt

Ham handed!!

Seen on a guitar forum earlier:

‘As a guitarist, Segal cites the ‘Three Kings’ as influences - Freddie, Albert, and Burger.’

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:40:48am

re: #324 FormerDirtDart

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Massey will eventually find himself primaried I imagine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:43:31am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It apparently has to do with their contracts and certain protocols regarding termination.

Ve mussst corrrectly follow corrrrect prrrrotocollsss!!

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:44:37am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

FNC will probably focus on the NCAA basketball scandal brewing. Louisville just fired Pitino.

Slick Ricky just ran out of grease.

I have never liked him. When he got into that quickie in the restaurant with an equipment managers wife that led to him being swindled for bucks for an abortion and payoff to keep quiet about it all I thought he was gone.

And then there was the prostitution ring in the freakin’ players dorm thing…and I thought he was gone.

Is he really gone???

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:45:53am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

Oh okay, didn’t see that it was only one source. They did fire their AD though.

It is being reported everywhere. Just heard it here in Columbus. AD wouldn’t fire him, so they canned the AD and then kicked Slick Rick to the curb.

NCAA Death Penalty for the school may be next.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:45:58am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Massey will eventually find himself primaried I imagine.

Slueths Congressional rep. Northern Kentucky has a lot of Tea Party crazy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:46:34am

re: #330 ObserverArt

Slick Ricky just ran out of grease.

I have never liked him. When he got into that quickie in the restaurant with an equipment managers wife that led to him being swindled for bucks for an abortion and payoff to keep quiet about it all I thought he was gone.

And then there was the prostitution ring in the freakin’ players dorm thing…and I thought he was gone.

Is he really gone???

usatoday.com

Yep appears that way. My favorite coach for what it’s worth was always Dean Smith. Someone who was much more than a basketball coach to his players but great teacher in general. It’s why I’m a big Popovich fan in the NBA.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:47:06am

re: #331 ObserverArt

It is being reported everywhere. Just heard it here in Columbus. AD wouldn’t fire him, so they canned the AD and then kicked Slick Rick to the curb.

NCAA Death Penalty for the school may be next.

Yeah there was some non-confirmed stuff at first but it’s been verified now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:47:38am

re: #332 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Slueths Congressional rep. Northern Kentucky has a lot of Tea Party crazy.

Yep. Hard to imagine BWS getting someone worse than than Massie but I’ll bet they’l lttry.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:48:50am

Someone gave the Seattle Mariners 280 characters

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:51:47am

Is Pitino on “double secret probation?”

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:51:55am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

Yep. Hard to imagine BWS getting someone worse than than Massie but I’ll bet they’l lttry.

It was only several years ago that Nick Clooney (yes George’s Dad- They are from the area) ran as the Dem nominee there.

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:52:09am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Dean is my favorite college hoop coach too. I used to use he and Bobby Knight as counterpoints alot back in the day. There is indeed more than one way to skin a cat but that doesn’t make each way equal. They both won and graduated players but only one of them is a good dude who I’d want as my grandpa.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:52:53am

re: #338 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

It was only several years ago that Nick Clooney (yes George’s Dad- They are from the area) ran as the Dem nominee there.

I do remember that. Nick’s a famous reporter in his own right isn’t he? I like George. Seems like he’d be a fun guy to go out and have drinks with. Not like that would ever happen.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:52:57am

re: #309 HappyWarrior

No, they didn’t mention the OSU riots nor did they mention that Miller was deliberately targeted. The vets they did talk to were horrified by it though.

Thanks Happy. I know there are only so many hours and editing decisions must be made. That is why I asked.

Kent State just didn’t “happen” as a big mistake. I think it was deliberate on the part of Governor Rhodes and Tricky Dick. What a black mark on America, but it will never be seen that way by the majority because “those kids had it coming,” those damn hippies agitators!!!

I’m going to look to see if I can find the link to the one site that really explains Kent State in a thorough way. I haven’t been to it in years. A person interested in history like you and other might like it.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:53:26am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:53:44am

If Jared is a woman does that make Ivanka a lesbian?

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:54:20am

Housing market is stalled. Wait until people realize that they can’t write off state and local taxes, and that they will have to surpass $24,000 in home interest payments to get above the new standard deduction proposed in the new “tax cut” proposal by the Republicans. I really think they wrote it with a poison pill in mind, or they are morans.

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:54:35am

Take it from someone who hates the 140 character limit - 280 characters suck.

I don’t like it, but I feel it was a necessary evil with the previous limit. It forces you to think straight and get to the point instead of being too wordy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:54:40am

re: #339 JordanRules

Dean is my favorite college hoop coach too. I used to use he and Bobby Knight as counterpoints alot back in the day. There is indeed more than one way to skin a cat but that doesn’t make each way equal. They both won and graduated players but only one of them is a good dude who I’d want as my grandpa.

Yeah Dean was great. He was a very kind and compassionate man. Another coach I look up to is John Wooden.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:55:07am

re: #341 ObserverArt

Thanks Happy. I know there are only so many hours and editing decisions must be made. That is why I asked.

Kent State just didn’t “happen” as a big mistake. I think it was deliberate on the part of Governor Rhodes and Tricky Dick. What a black mark on America, but it will never be seen that way by the majority because “those kids had it coming,” those damn hippies agitators!!!

I’m going to look to see if I can find the link to the one site that really explains Kent State in a thorough way. I haven’t been to it in years. A person interested in history like you and other might like it.

Thanks. Definitely will read.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:55:39am

re: #345 electrotek

Take it from someone who hates the 140 character limit - 280 characters suck.

I don’t like it, but I feel it was a necessary evil with the previous limit. It forces you to think straight and get to the point instead of being too wordy.

Which is exactly why I don’t like Twitter. I’m too wordy and not good at gettign to the point. But yeah.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:55:57am

re: #293 ObserverArt

I was in college, several states west, and it hit all of us very hard. I’m with you!

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:56:22am

re: #317 retired cynic

I still have my grandmothers colander and wooden pestle. They are treasures to me!

I wonder if they are like the one I used. It was pretty old and this was all back in the 60s when I used to help my mom moosh ‘maters.

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:57:08am

re: #348 HappyWarrior

Which is exactly why I don’t like Twitter. I’m too wordy and not good at gettign to the point. But yeah.

Nothing wrong with being wordy, isn’t that what LGF and Facebook are for? ;)

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jeffreyw  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:57:32am

Imgur


Inside out grilled cheese, the tomatoes for the soup were on the vine yesterday.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:58:09am

sigh.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:59:52am

re: #323 makeitstop

He seems to be kind of predatory in how he acquired some of those guitars.

One of Freddie King’s was stolen, and he bought it. Buyers like that give honest collectors a bad name, but I’m sure Russia Boy doesn’t care about that.

Damn him. For that I wish he was “Goin’ Down.”

“Going Down” - Freddie King

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:00:37am

re: #351 electrotek

Nothing wrong with being wordy, isn’t that what LGF and Facebook are for? ;)

Exactly heh.

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:00:45am

My brain still goes to Allen Iverson when I see AI mentioned. Gets pretty funny sometimes.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:01:06am

re: #345 electrotek

Take it from someone who hates the 140 character limit - 280 characters suck.

I don’t like it, but I feel it was a necessary evil with the previous limit. It forces you to think straight and get to the point instead of being too wordy.

And nobody ever found a way around the 140 character limit. Not even our host. ///

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:01:35am

re: #353 Bubblehead II

sigh.

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Congratulations school district, you have something in common with North Korea, the USSR, and the PRC.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:01:52am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

I don’t like Corker but I have no doubt that he will be replaced by someone even worse.

Corker floated Peyton Manning.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:02:26am

re: #345 electrotek

re: #348 HappyWarrior

280 is a more reasonable expansion than the ludicrous 10,000 character idea.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:03:06am

re: #331 ObserverArt

It is being reported everywhere. Just heard it here in Columbus. AD wouldn’t fire him, so they canned the AD and then kicked Slick Rick to the curb.

NCAA Death Penalty for the school may be next.

So, they are announcing Pinto has been put on a paid absence. He will no longer coach basketball at Louie-vil’

Good.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:03:08am

re: #359 Stanley Sea

Corker floated Peyton Manning.

Agh. Just what this country needs. More people without understanding of government in government. And then there’s the rumors of how Manning treated that trainer at UT.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:03:27am

re: #360 FormerDirtDart

280 is a more reasonable expansion than the ludicrous 10,000 character idea.

I agree with that.

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:04:12am

re: #360 FormerDirtDart

280 is a more reasonable expansion than the ludicrous 10,000 character idea.

That would have been a nightmare.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:05:08am

re: #356 JordanRules

My brain still goes to Allen Iverson when I see AI mentioned. Gets pretty funny sometimes.

It had better be a Haitian voodoo spirit.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:06:00am

re: #356 JordanRules

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My brain still goes to Allen Iverson when I see AI mentioned. Gets pretty funny sometimes.

PRACTICE

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:06:33am

re: #350 ObserverArt

I wonder if they are like the one I used. It was pretty old and this was all back in the 60s when I used to help my mom moosh ‘maters.

I should get a photo. Typing with cat on desk and one hand and keyboard. HARD!

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:07:14am
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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:07:43am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:07:47am

re: #368 lawhawk

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Yep. He was “mad” at Sessions too.

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:08:18am

Hope many Americans are paying off their debt quicker while Trump is in office. I’m fortunate to only have a revolving CC balance that is always paid off at the end of each month, because I’m very concerned of a possible economic collapse under Trump in the near future.

Am I being paranoid or are my fears grounded in reality?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:08:28am

re: #368 lawhawk

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The thing is, they are going to be looking into everyone’s travel. If he fires Price, he’s going to have to fire Kellyanne et al.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:09:27am

re: #368 lawhawk

tr*mp doesn’t give a shit about Price wasting taxpayer money with all his private jet flights. It’s just a convenient club to use vs. Price to soothe tr*mp’s hurt fee-fees over the latest GOP health care debacle.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:09:43am

re: #372 Stanley Sea

The whole cabal of cronies is up to their eyeballs in wrongdoing. Most Americans wont care how these admin officials get fired so long as they are fired.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:10:49am

re: #341 ObserverArt

I’m going to look to see if I can find the link to the one site that really explains Kent State in a thorough way. I haven’t been to it in years. A person interested in history like you (Happy Warrior) and other might like it.

I think this is the site I had read before, but it is much different from when I was last there. This is still pretty good info. Be sure to click around on all the associated links.

https://www.kent.edu/may-4-1970

https://www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:11:07am

re: #344 Shropshire Slasher

Housing market is stalled. Wait until people realize that they can’t write off state and local taxes, and that they will have to surpass $24,000 in home interest payments to get above the new standard deduction proposed in the new “tax cut” proposal by the Republicans. I really think they wrote it with a poison pill in mind, or they are morans.

Ah yes, mortgage interest deduction, the bulk of which goes to a minority with the biggest houses.

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:11:21am

re: #369 Stanley Sea

Getting fired and still getting a check. Nice work if you can get it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:11:55am

re: #375 ObserverArt

I think this is the site I had read before, but it is much different from when I was last there. This is till pretty good info. Be sure to click around on all the associated links.

https://www.kent.edu/may-4-1970

https://www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy

Thanks.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:12:52am

re: #371 electrotek

Inflation is a debtors friend. Take advantage of any 0% financing you can find.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:13:05am

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:13:06am

re: #344 Shropshire Slasher

Housing market is stalled. Wait until people realize that they can’t write off state and local taxes, and that they will have to surpass $24,000 in home interest payments to get above the new standard deduction proposed in the new “tax cut” proposal by the Republicans. I really think they wrote it with a poison pill in mind, or they are morans.

I hope the housing market comes down soon. Paying $300K+ for a home built during the 80s in north Dallas is a rip-off…especially when it doesn’t even come with a gas stove.

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:14:37am

re: #379 Shropshire Slasher

Inflation is a debtors friend. Take advantage of any 0% financing you can find.

Better on a Corolla to keep costs down. I have enough money to pay for a car cash but at 0%, why not keep the rest aside as a nest egg in case of an emergency?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:15:36am

So is Twitter just giving random users 280 character limits?

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:15:43am

re: #382 electrotek

Eggzactly. Once inflation hits, you won’t ever see those rates again.

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freetoken  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:18:08am

Just checked - I’m still limited to 140.

I’m not the elect of Twitter.

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:22:49am

re: #383 Eclectic Cyborg

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:23:50am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:28:43am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:30:07am

re: #387 JordanRules

WTF??

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:30:26am

re: #387 JordanRules

How many working cranes does Puerto Rico have after the hurricane?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:31:45am

re: #388 Charles Johnson

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Oh so who cares about people suffering. Trump’s shipping buddies come first.

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gwangung  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:33:01am

re: #390 Shropshire Slasher

How many working cranes does Puerto Rico have after the hurricane?

You would think that would be a priority of any help sent by the federal goverment…

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:33:42am

re: #389 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #390 Shropshire Slasher

I don’t know what the hell is going on. It’s looking really bad though. I know there are all types of considerations here and like Katrina, most of them are bullshit when it comes to a humanitarian crisis. There are massive failures at play here.

The gentleman in the video has been on the ground doing good reporting.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:33:56am

The lifting of the Jones Act for PR and USVI will likely not offer any significant reduction in current or short term suffering. As noted above in
re: #387 JordanRules
The ports are filling up with no distribution mechanism available

However, I believe it will, if lifted for a lengthy period, greatly assist the islands in long term recovery & rebuilding.

re: #387 JordanRules

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:36:12am

We look weak as fuck as a nation in so many ways right now. So many ways.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:37:36am

I have ESPN on in the background and Jay Williams (ex-Duke BBall player) thinks this could be the end of the NCAA since they really have no control on Big College Sports Ball.

Edit: I was watching closely…it was Jay Williams!

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:38:15am

re: #388 Charles Johnson

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Earlier on NPR news I heard “because no one has asked yet”

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:39:14am

re: #396 ObserverArt

I can’t see that. There’s too much money and institutional security at play.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:39:18am

re: #368 lawhawk

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:40:06am

re: #396 ObserverArt

I have ESPN on in the background and Kenny Smith (ex-North Carolina BBall player) thinks this could be the end of the NCAA since they really have no control on Big College Sports Ball.

No. They have too much money. The networks are on their side. Congress doesn’t care. In many states kollege sports are bigger than Jesus.

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:41:00am

re: #395 JordanRules

We look weak as fuck as a nation in so many ways right now. So many ways.

Not according to Trumpers, because they viewed Obama as weak.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:41:30am

The Jones Act has long been outdated, but is a sop to certain shipping companies.

It should be lifted automatically during a natural disaster, but Trump’s playing games here despite fact that PR requires ocean-going shipping for pretty much everything in bulk.

It’s past time to consider scrapping the Jones Act altogether, but Trump’s already showed why that isn’t likely to happen - certain corps aren’t going to like that. Forget the suffering of millions of people, Trump values the corporations over them.

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:42:08am

re: #400 I Would Prefer Not To

No. They have too much money. The networks are on their side. Congress doesn’t care. In many states kollege sports are bigger than Jesus.

Why the US can’t have nice things
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Bubblehead II  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:42:17am

re: #390 Shropshire Slasher

How many working cranes does Puerto Rico have after the hurricane?

According to the reporter it’s not a lack of port facilities it’s a lack of truck drivers to take the supplies from the port and deliver them.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:42:24am

re: #371 electrotek

Hope many Americans are paying off their debt quicker while Trump is in office. I’m fortunate to only have a revolving CC balance that is always paid off at the end of each month, because I’m very concerned of a possible economic collapse under Trump in the near future.

Am I being paranoid or are my fears grounded in reality?

I’m worried that the stock market my crash. Thought it would crash months ago. I was wrong. I’m beginning to think that Trump and his friends are too incompetent to crash anything.

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:43:03am

re: #380 Charles Johnson

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:43:41am

re: #403 Interesting Times

Priorities.

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:44:14am

re: #402 lawhawk

The Jones Act has long been outdated, but is a sop to certain shipping companies.

It should be lifted automatically during a natural disaster, but Trump’s playing games here despite fact that PR requires ocean-going shipping for pretty much everything in bulk.

It’s past time to consider scrapping the Jones Act altogether, but Trump’s already showed why that isn’t likely to happen - certain corps aren’t going to like that. Forget the suffering of millions of people, Trump values the corporations over them.

They won’t repeal the absurd ‘chicken tax’ in place by a Democrat President since 1964 to this day, what makes anyone think they will scrap this piece of legislation in the name of reducing government overreach?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:45:34am

re: #403 Interesting Times

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And meanwhile those athletes that make those coaches rich get notta.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:46:55am

re: #406 electrotek

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re: #409 HappyWarrior

And meanwhile those athletes that make those coaches rich get notta.

John Oliver did a great segment on that. He looked at how much money they made using the players for videogames.

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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:47:24am
When you meet a member of the Ku Klux Klan
Walk right up and hit him like a natural man;
Take no thought of babies he may have at home
Sympathy`s defamed when used upon his dome.

Hit him in the mouth and push his face right in
Knock him down a flight of stairs and pick him up again.
Get your distance from him and then take a running start
Hit him brother, hit him, and please hit the scoundrel hard.

Pour some water on him, bring him back to life once more
Think of how he did your folks in the days of long ago;
Make a prayer to heaven for the strength to do the job
Kick him in the stomach, he, a low, unworthy snob.

Call your wife and baby out to see you have some fun
Sic your bulldog on him for to see the rascal run
Head him off before he gets ten paces from your door
Take a bat of sturdy oak and knock him down once more.

This time you may leave him where he wallows in the sand
A spent and humble member of the Ku Klux Klan.

A poem by Robert Poston written in 1921 lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:47:39am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:49:42am

re: #386 Interesting Times

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:51:05am

re: #398 JordanRules

I can’t see that. There’s too much money and institutional security at play.

It is just sports talking heads speculating.

If anything, the NCAA is going to have some changes coming. The fact the FBI did the investigation is telling. The NCAA doesn’t have the legal tools for some of the more corrupt stuff.

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:51:16am

For LGF’ers that currently live in Japan or lived there, your thoughts on this?

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:52:07am

This is brilliant (though, given recent events, I’d amend it to say “…caught, and convicted”)

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:56:02am

Now the ESPN guys are saying Pitino’s lawyers are saying he will fight this.

Also, Pitino’s contract buyout is $44 Million.

That is just gross.

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:02:07am

On a lighter note:

Read her twitter byline to see why her grief is so profound ;)

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:11:57am

Just paged a piece on what we’re all likely in for now that Trump is feeling humiliated and defeated on the ACA, on the Alabama race, and (bold prediction) by the fallout from his pointless fight with the NFL. And then I see this Daily Beast piece on how Trump is already going off on Twitter like a tantrum-throwing crybaby: thedailybeast.com

From his meeting last night with GOP leaders:

“According to The Wall Street Journal’s Rebecca Ballhaus, Trump spent much of the dinner ranting about Jeff Sessions having recused himself from the Russia probe. “You could feel it dripping with venom,” a source told Ballhaus. Trump apparently also told attendees he’s happy with how the NFL issue has “really taken off … He was happy — he feels like he’s clearly winning that exchange.”

He’s still treating Sessions like a Punch&Judy doll. Sessions is his go-to punching bag whenever he feels bad about anything.

Christ, Trump really is the alcoholic, violent, psychotic daddy, isn’t he?

Our only hope is that McConnell and McCain and a few of the other old bulls in the Senate start punching back. I think a Rubicon might have been crossed in the past two weeks.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:12:02am

re: #311 Dr Lizardo

Corker may well be right……go take a look at the front page of the Drudge Report.

Headline: “More Betrayal - Republican Plan To Raise Taxes!”

Matt’s whipping up the rubes.

There’s more truth to that than usual for RWNJ propaganda. GOP tax cuts are for the rich, not for the little guy.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:12:16am

Watching the news today I think we are going to see a massive yam explosion.

Unless they are keeping him away from the tv.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:16:53am

And then there’s this

PR - 1st & foremost
Price
Health Care fail
Deleting tweets
Tax reform no-go
blah blah NFL

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:19:00am

re: #402 lawhawk

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:19:14am

re: #422 Stanley Sea

And then there’s this

[Embedded content]

PR - 1st & foremost
Price
Health Care fail
Deleting tweets
Tax reform no-go
blah blah NFL

They need to vote accordingly then.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:20:59am

re: #410 I Would Prefer Not To

John Oliver did a great segment on that. He looked at how much money they made using the players for videogames.

EA Sports used my likeness in three video games(NCAA 200, 2001, 2002). Millions of sales. The lawsuit got me a check of about $250 after taxes.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:21:57am

re: #425 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

EA Sports used my likeness in three video games(NCAA 200, 2001, 2002). Millions of sales. The lawsuit got me a check of about $250 after taxes.

Awful. People act like college athletes have it easy but they don’t.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:22:06am

re: #422 Stanley Sea

What on earth is with only 60% of hispanic voters in that poll thinking tr*mp is unfit for office?

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CongoJack  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:23:00am

re: #427 EPR-radar

They look like white evangelicals thus can “pass”

/

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:23:22am

re: #427 EPR-radar

Probably done before Maria/PR situation.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:24:02am

re: #426 HappyWarrior

Awful. People act like college athletes have it easy but they don’t.

Big $$$ college athletics is inherently corrupt because the players aren’t compensated.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:24:41am

re: #426 HappyWarrior

I would argue they have it easy in some respects, but they are heavily exploited financially, earning their schools millions of dollars that they never see a dime of.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:25:47am

re: #429 Eclectic Cyborg

Probably done before Maria/PR situation.

“mexican rapists” and that business of tr*mp saying a latino judge couldn’t judge his case fairly should have provided sufficient clues. I’m sure I’m forgetting other outrages.

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Kragar  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:26:11am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:26:50am

re: #431 Eclectic Cyborg

I would argue they have it easy in some respects, but they are heavily exploited financially, earning their schools millions of dollars that they never see a dime of.

What I mean is not every athlete is a five star recruit. There’s a conception that every college athlete is treated like royalty but as you get, there’s tons of exploitation too.

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:27:03am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:27:10am

re: #430 EPR-radar

Big $$$ college athletics is inherently corrupt because the players aren’t compensated.

Precisely.

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danarchy  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:27:12am

re: #429 Eclectic Cyborg

Probably done before Maria/PR situation.

Poll done between sept 21-26. So it was just after Maria made landfall until yesterday.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:28:10am

re: #433 Kragar

This is too blatant, even for Republicans. But it will probably take some luckless staffer many hours to convince tr*mp to waive the Jones act because tr*mp is such a stubborn idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:28:22am

re: #435 JordanRules

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That’s a shame. I have no doubt her father would be agreeing with these athletes and being shamed by the same people who use his name to shame others today.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:30:21am

re: #438 EPR-radar

And he will act like he’s doing PR a huge favor when he does it.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:31:32am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:31:52am

re: #440 Eclectic Cyborg

And he will act like he’s doing PR a huge favor when he does it.

“No one else has waived the Jones Act before. Believe me. It’s great. I love Puerto Rico.”

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:33:00am

re: #440 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep. Fitting that colony-colonizer relationship perfectly.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:35:27am

re: #426 HappyWarrior

Awful. People act like college athletes have it easy but they don’t.

Value of Scholarship < Actual Cost of Attendance

I’ll be honest, I took a couple of $50 handshakes in my life. My parents had no money to give me while in school. And I didn’t have time to work a job that paid enough to matter.

One thing that was a huge help was that I was able to receive a Pell Grant. But that money went to other unpaid incidentals not covered by a scholarship. Gas money to get to the barely paying (summer only) job. Scholarships only covered $30 worth of weekend meals, and that can’t do anything for a 20 year old 200 pound athlete.

Not to sound like college athletes don’t have great opportunities; we all did. But we are still an exploited part of an exploitative system. The system used me. I attempted to use the system for as much as I could get. There are advantages/disadvantages to being an athlete or a regular student. Criticisms of student athletes who criticize the system are akin to the criticisms of NFL players who protest for racial justice. How many reports did you see of NFL “fans” saying the players are Millionaires, they shouldn’t complain. The “fans” don’t wan’t to hear Players express the power and influence they do have, likely due to the melanin content of the vocal. The majority of current and former college players criticizing the NCAA and its exploitative system are also black. Makes one wonder.

Yes the system did exploit us. But we can and are using the fruits of that system(our education) to get back and fight for justice and economic fairness.

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Franklin  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:35:32am

re: #441 Ace-o-aces

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:35:47am

re: #425 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

EA Sports used my likeness in three video games(NCAA 200, 2001, 2002). Millions of sales. The lawsuit got me a check of about $250 after taxes.

Wow.

That is ridiculous.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:36:20am

re: #427 EPR-radar

What on earth is with only 60% of hispanic voters in that poll thinking tr*mp is unfit for office?

They are the safe ones.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:37:07am

re: #433 Kragar

Fairly certain the logic looks something like this:

SORRY, CAN’T DO THAT, NEED TO DO SOME PROFITEERING!! GOOD FOR ECONOMY, MAGA!!1!

Like I said yesterday, the status quo of Puerto Rican as a commonwealth terrority can’t remain.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:44:14am

Trump’s products can come from foreign companies but relief ships trying to save American citizen’s lives can’t.

Got it.

Thanks Donny!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:46:27am

re: #338 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

It was only several years ago that Nick Clooney (yes George’s Dad- They are from the area) ran as the Dem nominee there.

Nick Clooney WAS our rep but he term-limited himself and we ended up with Geoff Davis.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:46:40am

re: #446 Stanley Sea

Wow.

That is ridiculous.

Think about how much money in college jersey sales there are. Tebow might not have needed the profits from every #15 Florida blue jersey bought, but he is the reason why so many were(are) sold. So what if his name is not on the back, nobody walks around in a UF #15 jersey saying its Eddy Pineiros jersey.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:48:03am

re: #450 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nick Clooney WAS our rep but he term-limited himself and we ended up with Geoff Davis.

And now you have a Massi(e)ve Douchebag.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:48:27am

Another reason Trump is against waiving Jones Act

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:49:59am

re: #451 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Think about how much money in college jersey sales there are. Tebow might not have needed the profits from every #15 Florida blue jersey bought, but he is the reason why so many were(are) sold. So what if his name is not on the back, nobody walks around in a UF #15 jersey saying its Eddy Pineiros jersey.

The University of North Carolina has been making money off of number 23 basketball jerseys for over 20 years now. Nobody has worn that number since Jordan went pro in 1984.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:55:04am

re: #453 FormerDirtDart

I’m actually kind of shocked that the Jones Act has survived the various free trade agreements that we have (I’d honestly never heard of it until this week).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:10:19pm

re: #452 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

And now you have a Massi(e)ve Douchebag.

And we’ll have him until he decides to quit or the congressional district goes back to more like it was when Clooney was our rep before it got gerrymandered for the Tea Party.

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BeachDem  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:18:06pm

re: #346 HappyWarrior

Yeah Dean was great. He was a very kind and compassionate man. Another coach I look up to is John Wooden.

Heh—Sarah Palin does as well (except she got her attribution wrong)

As the epigram to Chapter Three, “Drill, Baby, Drill,” Palin assigns the following remarks to the Hall of Fame hoops coach:

Our land is everything to us… I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember our grandfathers paid for it—with their lives.

Only the quote wasn’t by John Wooden. It was written by a Native American activist named John Wooden Legs in an essay entitled “Back on the War Ponies,” which appeared in a left-wing anthology, We Are the People: Voices from the Other Side of American History, edited by Nathaniel May, Clint Willis, and James W. Loewen.

huffingtonpost.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 12:28:05pm

re: #415 electrotek

For LGF’ers that currently live in Japan or lived there, your thoughts on this?

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I think the ban is stupid, but I like this:
There are many reasons why tattooing has been blighted in Japan, including the long-standing cultural thinking that getting a tattoo was disrespectful to your parents, because you were defacing the body they had bestowed.

Someone noticed that our parents make our bodies, rather than pretending a god did it, when all our knowledge says it was our parents.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2017 • 2:54:17pm

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