Video Emerges Showing WH Chief of Staff John Kelly Lied About Rep. Wilson - But He Refuses to Back Down

As the White House flails and spins and lashes out, trying to justify Donald Trump’s stunningly heartless comments to the widow of a fallen soldier, yesterday Chief of Staff John Kelly went in front of the cameras and attacked Rep. Frederica Wilson as an “empty barrel,” and claimed she made a speech about a new FBI field office and took credit for getting the funding for the building. Here are his exact words:

…A congresswoman stood up, and in the long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise, stood up there and all of that and talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building, and how she took care of her constituents because she got the money, and she just called up President Obama, and on that phone call he gave the money — the $20 million — to build the building. And she sat down, and we were stunned. Stunned that she had done it. Even for someone that is that empty a barrel, we were stunned.

Well, now the Sun-Sentinel has found the video of Rep. Wilson’s speech, and let’s not beat about the bush — John Kelly flat out lied. At no point in her speech does she try to take credit for procuring funding for the building — and she was not even in Congress at the time. (And even if she had made those comments, which she didn’t, what in the world would make this relevant to Trump’s ugly remarks? It’s a pure ad hominem attack.)

A more charitable interpretation of Kelly’s attack on Rep. Wilson might be that he was mistaken; that he misremembered the speech. But then why is he still standing by his false claim despite the very clear video evidence?

UPDATE at 10/20/17 11:46:58 am by Charles Johnson

And now the White House makes this sickening situation even more offensive:

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439 comments

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Kragar  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:43:10am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:44:55am

SHS is a terrible person as are Kelly and Trump. Rep. Wilson actually knew Sergeant Johnson’s family and Sgt. Johnson. Their loss was her loss too. Sgt. La David Johnson was more than just a report to her. He was a father, son, mentoree, and someone whose loss she felt personally impacted by. Kelly as far as I’m concerned validated when Rep Guitterez said he disgraced the uniform. He has. And I’m tired of him hiding behind his USMC uniform to run from what a shitty person he is and what an even shittier person he enables.

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Chrysicat  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:46:57am

Since I posted this seconds before the previous thread was obsoleted, and still got two updings, here it is for everyone who wasn’t Spying as I put it up originally:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:47:03am

re: #1 Kragar

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If that 4 star general is lying, it’s not inappropriate at all and Kelly did lie. Nevermind the fact that it was irrelevant what happened in Miami two years ago, Kelly flat out lied with the hope that no one out there would find footage of Rep Wilson’s speech was actually a very gracious tribute to the fallen FBI agents Grogan and Dove, included heartfelt thanks to colleagues in both parties, and to James Comey. We know the reason why Trump surrounded himself with military men. It’s because he thinks they’re shields from lying.

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Kragar  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:48:26am
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petesh  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:48:55am

It would be highly inappropriate for a 4-star General working as the White House Chief of Staff to slander a member of Congress. But here we are.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:49:15am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:49:16am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:50:16am

She’s not even denying that he lied. Just saying that we’re not allowed to disagree with his account because he’s a general.

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:50:49am

This has not been a good week for Trump.

I bet he is being restrained today. He probably is hating everyone in The White House. He can’t even go play golf because he was heard smashing his clubs out on the White House lawn.

Any firings today? Firings make Donny Feel Good.

I know one I’d like.

Himself.

Yeah, yeah, I know…

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:51:25am

There is ALWAYS a tweet.

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petesh  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:51:54am

IIRC Senator Franken once wrote the book about these assholes. What was the title? Truthy Truthtellers and the Truths They Tell. No, that wasn’t it. Of course, it is no longer relevant, right? Bueller?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:53:25am

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

There is ALWAYS a tweet.

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Let’s call it “Trump’s Law.”

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:53:32am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:53:49am

re: #12 petesh

IIRC Senator Franken once wrote the book about these assholes. What was the title? Truthy Truthtellers and the Truths They Tell. No, that wasn’t it. Of course, it is no longer relevant, right? Bueller?

I have that lying around here somewhere. Need to read his latest. My uncle said it was a must read.

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Kragar  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:54:00am
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:54:21am

re: #1 Kragar

[Embedded content]Seriously, fuck anyone who tries to wrap themselves in their former service as a defense from criticism for flat out lying.

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:55:00am

re: #9 HappyWarrior

She’s not even denying that he lied. Just saying that we’re not allowed to disagree with his account because he’s a general.

She shifted it to “comments made at the dedication” from everyone hearing it to only a few who heard the Congresswoman (‘loud talkin’) like an empty barrel.

And who would be those few that heard? Kelly and his imagination most likely. But we are sure to know they can’t be found or they will be people making more excuses that they heard it. A select few for sure.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:55:16am

re: #16 Kragar

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:55:18am

re: #3 Chrysicat

not often we get to ring the bell twice

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Kragar  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:56:39am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:56:45am

re: #16 Kragar

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That was some mighty fine projecting. It almost comes off like a satire. That’s how over the top it is. i would ask why the NRA is involved in this but then again I don’t have to ask because the NRA sold whatever it integrity it may have had years ago to push an agenda of unregulated firearms ownership and to elect only Republicans and not to represent all gun owners regardless of race or political identity.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:57:53am

re: #21 Kragar

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Service is only a shield if you’re a conservative. We saw how Kerry was treated by these same people.Jokes about his Purple Heart. Lawrence O’Donnell for all his legitimate criticism of Kelly last night was very respectful to Kelly as a father who lost his son and has another son still serving.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:58:14am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:58:30am

Conservatives love to talk about respect, chivalry, honor, service, responsibility, and humility. It would be nice if they actually practiced it for once.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 11:59:04am

Where has our country gone so wrong? I mean I get it, we were never perfect or what we proclaimed ourselves to be but we were better than this.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:00:01pm

re: #10 ObserverArt

This has not been a good week for Trump.

I bet he is being restrained today. He probably is hating everyone in The White House. He can’t even go play golf because he was heard smashing his clubs out on the White House lawn.

Any firings today? Firings make Donny Feel Good.

I know one I’d like.

Himself.

Yeah, yeah, I know…

“This has not been a good week for Trump” repeats on my calendar every monday

“I hate everyone in the white house”
not even a month old
still a goodie

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:00:14pm

Can’t make this sh*t up. Paul Ryan who wrote the playbook on identity politics and racial resentment, complaining about identity politics. Pot meets kettle.

crooksandliars.com

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:01:43pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:01:47pm

re: #24 goddamnedfrank

Truth doesn’t matter to a cult.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:02:33pm

John Kelly flat out lied. And Frederica Wilson is still a black woman. That’s all the assholes need to try to discredit her.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:02:40pm

re: #1 Kragar

Shall we just call him Sky Marshall Kelly now?

Service guarantees citizenship! Do you want to know more?

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:02:49pm

re: #18 ObserverArt

She shifted it to “comments made at the dedication” from everyone hearing it to only a few who heard the Congresswoman (‘loud talkin’) like an empty barrel.

And who would be those few that heard? Kelly and his imagination most likely. But we are sure to know they can’t be found or they will be people making more excuses that they heard it. A select few for sure.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:02:58pm

It will be a happy day when this administration is gone but then the real work of building our country must start again.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:03:19pm

re: #31 jaunte

John Kelly flat out lied. And Frederica Wilson is still a black woman. That’s all the assholes need to try to discredit her.

Pretty much.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:03:50pm

re: #16 Kragar

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The NRA has now become Trump’s SA!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:04:03pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Where has our country gone so wrong? I mean I get it, we were never perfect or what we proclaimed ourselves to be but we were better than this.

We took our liberal democracy for granted, and allowed the far right to propagandize enough people to cause the current surge of fascism. The good news is that people who care about American values are now awake and aware of the problem. The crazies are getting slammed on the Internet, so I’m hopeful about the next election.

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Chrysicat  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:04:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:05:58pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Where has our country gone so wrong? I mean I get it, we were never perfect or what we proclaimed ourselves to be but we were better than this.

Actually, no. The only difference between today and days past is instant communications.

There have always been regressive conservatives who wished to take the country backward or tear it down, from the Whiskey Rebellion to the Civil War to the Klan to Jim Crow to the Gilded Age to *well you get the idea here*

Enlightenment ideas, which are liberal values, must constantly be on guard against the long journey into the night.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:06:10pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Where has our country gone so wrong? I mean I get it, we were never perfect or what we proclaimed ourselves to be but we were better than this.

Not really. This was always lurking beneath the surface, only barely repressed by the psychological confidence white people had in our own institutional supremacy. As many of us saw progress that confidence eroded and this hibernating chauvinistic rage awoke.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:06:34pm

re: #28 DodgerFan1988

Can’t make this sh*t up. Paul Ryan who wrote the playbook on identity politics and racial resentment, complaining about identity politics. Pot meets kettle.

crooksandliars.com

“I have no clue,” Ryan said.

confirms what i already knew

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:06:40pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:07:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:07:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:07:12pm

re: #38 Chrysicat

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Rural America gets smaller daily.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:07:47pm

re: #42 JordanRules

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Which I think is a big part of why Rep Wilson is so upset.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:08:20pm

Guess you guys are right. I’m just so disillusioned.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:09:43pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:10:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:10:07pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Libertarians, turning to government to bail them out. Irony, dead, &c.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:10:14pm

Meanwhile the BBs in my TL are complaining about Bernie. Oh Bernie, who like General Kelly has a habit of condescending to women and PoC. That Bernie.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:10:33pm

re: #49 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:10:43pm

re: #49 FormerDirtDart

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Give me my quarter.

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Citizen K  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:11:10pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Guess you guys are right. I’m just so disillusioned.

This is what America is, was, and always will be, it seems like.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:11:24pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Rural America gets smaller daily.

Smaller, but dumber, as smart people move to the city every generation, and they still get the same number of electoral votes and Senators.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:12:00pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

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people inside facebook want the government to resolve this for them?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:12:27pm

re: #54 Citizen K

This is what America is, was, and always will be, it seems like.

The more I think about it the more I fear you’re right. This country has never been great to PoC. It took loads of pressure and I’m not sure it worked. We just had quiet racism.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:12:33pm

re: #49 FormerDirtDart

Everyone named Trump.

Too easy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:12:44pm

re: #55 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Smaller, but dumber, as smart people move to the city every generation, and they still get the same number of electoral votes and Senators.

Very true.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:12:55pm

re: #56 dangerman

people inside facebook want the government to resolve this for them?

They know this government isn’t going to regulate Facebook to reduce the propagation of fake news. This is a government created by fake news.

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petesh  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:12:57pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

I have that lying around here somewhere. Need to read his latest. My uncle said it was a must read.

We listened to Franken’s Giant of the Senate during the driving portion of our vacation this year, it’s well worth it. Fascinating tidbits include that he used to be quite friendly with Jeff Sessions. That no longer seems to be operative.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:13:12pm
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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:13:31pm

re: #49 FormerDirtDart

Both.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:13:44pm

re: #61 petesh

We listened to Franken’s Giant of the Senate during the driving portion of our vacation this year, it’s well worth it. Fascinating tidbits include that he used to be quite friendly with Jeff Sessions. That no longer seems to be operative.

I think I’ll ask for it for Christmas.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:13:56pm

re: #577 makeitstop

No, not today. I would have started trashing the joint. Had to wait 90 minutes for the tires to get here, and right now I’m pretty hungry and cranky.

I’m done with this crap for a while, at least.

From the last thread.

Hey, hold out for the free pen. We got a free pen. (It was an advert for a different tire company than the ones we got, but it was still a free pen.)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:14:49pm

re: #62 JordanRules

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Kragar  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:15:54pm
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:16:10pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

The more I think about it the more I fear you’re right. This country has never been great to PoC. It took loads of pressure and I’m not sure it worked. We just had quiet racism.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:16:21pm

JFC these fuckers never stop.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:16:47pm

re: #68 dangerman

Which is what the GOP did before Trump.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:17:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:17:50pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

JFC these fuckers never stop.

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They know their role well in this. Assholes. Hey Fox, how much did Pence’s stupid football stunt cost?

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:18:06pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

JFC these fuckers never stop.

If only those uppity first ladies would go back to sitting in the white house waiting for their husband to come home.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:18:30pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

When 97% of us knew and called your bullshit, you know you have to keep coming for us, discrediting us and silencing us.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:19:30pm

re: #73 Belafon

If only those uppity first ladies would go back to sitting in the white house waiting for their husband to come home.

I’m sure one of the first things they did was use a backhoe on Michelle’s vegetable garden.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:19:55pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

JFC these fuckers never stop.

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She cut the staff back to her mani-pedi girl and her favorite ‘pool boy.’

Michelle needed more of a staff because she actually worked when she was first lady.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:20:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:21:37pm

re: #76 makeitstop

She cut the staff back to her mani-pedi girl and her favorite ‘pool boy.’

Michelle needed more of a staff because she actually worked when she was first lady.

Yep. She was raising awareness for important issues. What has Melania actually done? Laura Bush raised awareness for reading and even Nancy Reagan whose Just Say No campaign was ultimately fruitless had good intentions.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:21:56pm

re: #77 JordanRules

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She was a pioneer.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:22:13pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

While Trump has blown through the travel budget so he can golf at a higher rate than Obama or any other president since Eisenhower… He’s gotten taxpayers to cough up $74 million and change on the travel so far - not counting the damage to US national security because the Secret Service still can’t secure Trump’s resorts at Mar a Lago or Bedminster properly since anyone can be a member and have access to the president.

This fucker is profiting from all this, and Fox News is spewing agitprop to deflect from the damage Trump is doing.

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TedStriker  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:22:24pm

re: #5 Kragar

“Kelly will save us from Trump.”

Kelly: pic.twitter.com

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 20, 2017

Narrator (Ron Howard): “No, he won’t.”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:22:50pm

Trump builds golf courses with fake Civil War memorials

just sayin’

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:23:34pm

I find myself wondering where I’d go if I chose to leave because many other countries seem to be having similar problems. It’s like the whole world is going mad.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:25:04pm

re: #75 The Vicious Babushka

I’m sure one of the first things they did was use a backhoe on Michelle’s vegetable garden.

politico.com

(more):

First lady Michelle Obama is making sure that whoever inhabits the White House next doesn’t rip out her iconic vegetable garden — at least not without a big fuss.

On Wednesday afternoon, Obama unveiled a much bigger version of the garden, which uses cement, stone and steel to make it a more permanent fixture on the South Lawn. The updates are seen not just as preserving Obama’s garden — recognized globally as a symbol of local food — but also as a way to dissuade, say, a President Donald Trump from scrapping it the way Ronald Reagan tore out Jimmy Carter’s solar panels after he moved into the White House.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:27:38pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:28:52pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:29:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:30:02pm

google.com
Breitbart- Der Strumer
Bannon- Julius Streicher
In short, Breitbart made up a story that Hispanic immigrants caused the Sonoma County fires and don’t take my word, that the SCPD.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:30:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:30:28pm

re: #86 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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FFS just apologize already you heartless jerks.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:31:15pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹

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He should. Come out Kelly, you coward.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:31:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:32:53pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

FFS just apologize already you heartless jerks.

Nope. Not a conservative value. DARVO is a conservative value. Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter-accusations are conservative values.

Apologies require empathy.

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Franklin  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:33:13pm

re: #85 FormerDirtDart

That’s still not sufficient. That puts the responsibility on the widow to understand what he meant. He should have just said he could have chosen better words in s sensitive situation.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:33:40pm

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹

Nope. Not a conservative value. DARVO is a conservative value. Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter-accusations are conservative values.

Apologies require empathy.

Dude I know. Believe me I know.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:33:43pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹

There’s that military fetish again from s. Sanders: “If you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine General…” (who lied).

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:34:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:34:19pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

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Didn’t this dipshit nearly become Ag secretary?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:34:45pm

re: #94 Franklin

That’s still not sufficient. That puts the responsibility on the widow to understand what he meant. He should have just said he could have chosen better words in s sensitive situation.

That would mean admitting Dear Leader was wrong. Can’t have that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:34:59pm

re: #96 jaunte

There’s that military fetish again from s. Sanders: “If you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine General…” (who lied).

I’ll gladly debate Kelly on this. Generals can and do lie.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:37:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:37:50pm

IBelieveFrederica is a flood of racism right now.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:37:56pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

What does it say?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:39:32pm

re: #96 jaunte

There’s that military fetish again from s. Sanders: “If you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine General…” (who lied).

Yup. It is an appeal to authority.

What matters is what he said, not that he is a veteran.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:39:45pm

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹

IBelieveFrederica is a flood of racism right now.

Report them all. I’ll do so too when I get home and can have racism on my computer.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:40:34pm

re: #103 Belafon

What does it say?

Photo of Elizabeth Warren with an “Indian feather” in her hair, next to a photo of Rep. Wilson in one of her hats:

“Cowboys and Indians.”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:40:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:41:33pm

nbcnews.com
Intresting read by Joy Ann Reid here. I find it hard to argue with this. It’s a good companion piece to Coates’ argument that Trump is our First White President, Joy argues that the seeds of Trump’s victory were planted the day Obama became President and in hindsight, it’s hard to argue with that as a white man.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:41:45pm

re: #107 FormerDirtDart

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Unfortunately, treating a wife as property is a Republican value.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:47:35pm

Regarding Dana Loesch. Is that woman ever not miserable?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:48:44pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Regarding Dana Loesch. Is that woman ever not miserable?

Didn’t you read the book about her? “Fifty shades of Misery”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:49:13pm

Oops posted on the previous thread.

Because he’s a conservative?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:49:40pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Regarding Dana Loesch. Is that woman ever not miserable?

She was the kind of fearful person who has to have guns to feel safe, and found that they can’t actually protect her, because threats terrify her. Where does she go from there, if she’s locked into an ideology. You’d be miserable too.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:49:54pm

re: #94 Franklin

That’s still not sufficient. That puts the responsibility on the widow to understand what he meant. He should have just said he could have chosen better words in s sensitive situation.

winner

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RiverBoy  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:51:42pm

Yes America has always had its problems. This country has a long history of spouting its great ideals but never truly living up to them. We have been indoctrinated with American Exceptionalism for generations so our population has a major superiority complex. And since POC have been crapped on throughout our history some in this country will never see us as truly American. Racism is a fabric of this Nation unfortunately and to rid ourselves of it is going to take a lot fight. I believe we became too complacent with the fight. I believe we took signs of progress as we were winning the fight and got lazy.

It will be a long road ahead even with Trump out of office. Trump is not the cause of this he is a symptom of the larger GOP problem that has been going on for quite some time. And even though the GOP has been ethically bankrupt for years the Democrats can’t seem to beat them. This is the problem. How does the Democratic party keep losing ground to these people! It’s hard to sit here and come up with any other answers than incompetency.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:51:43pm

re: #113 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

She was the kind of fearful person who has to have guns to feel safe, and found that they can’t actually protect her, because threats terrify her. Where does she go from there, if she’s locked into an ideology. You’d be miserable too.

Good point.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:52:43pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Sorry.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:54:56pm

We’re going to war in Africa. Lindsay Graham IOW on CNN

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:54:59pm

re: #117 Ace-o-aces

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Sorry.

CSI Miami Opening Theme

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:55:03pm

I see. We’re back to “You can’t disagree with a General”.

//

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:55:08pm

re: #115 RiverBoy

Fear motivates far better than hope. But it also helps to have a system that is rigged in favor of resisting change. And then a few decisions, like the SCOTUS allowing gerrymandering for political reasons, and it’s hard Democrats to hold on for too long. Think of 98 and 2016, after Democrats fixed the economy, the party was punished, not rewarded.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:55:47pm

re: #117 Ace-o-aces

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:56:16pm

re: #114 dangerman

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:56:34pm

re: #122 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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It would be something if W resigned from the NRA just like his Dad did. But yes this is exactly what he was talking about.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:56:41pm

If re: #120 Sir John Barron

I see. We’re back to “You can’t disagree with a General”.

//

So when Eisenhower was president everyone agreed with him all the time?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:57:07pm

Resentment my friends is the machine that has kept conservatism oiled for years in this country.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:57:49pm

re: #125 I Would Prefer Not To

If

So when Eisenhower was president everyone agreed with him all the time?

Did General Eisenhower say Trump was great? If not then NO!

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:57:52pm

Hmmmm, there must be some difference between the two. Can’t put my finger on it…..

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:59:21pm

re: #128 Ace-o-aces

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Hmmmm, there must be some difference between the two. Can’t put my finger on it…..

Yeah that four star general didn’t kiss Trump’s orange ass. Kelly does and does it with a smile on his face.

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KGxvi  Oct 20, 2017 • 12:59:37pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

If that 4 star general is lying, it’s not inappropriate at all and Kelly did lie. Nevermind the fact that it was irrelevant what happened in Miami two years ago, Kelly flat out lied with the hope that no one out there would find footage of Rep Wilson’s speech was actually a very gracious tribute to the fallen FBI agents Grogan and Dove, included heartfelt thanks to colleagues in both parties, and to James Comey. We know the reason why Trump surrounded himself with military men. It’s because he thinks they’re shields from lying.

The internet documents every single fucking thing.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:00:05pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:00:07pm

re: #125 I Would Prefer Not To

If

So when Eisenhower was president everyone agreed with him all the time?

You can disagree with a 5 star general, not a 4 star…..

Except for Colin Powell because….well….ya know…

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:00:39pm

re: #121 Belafon

Yes, all of this!

And if you accept the systemic racism baked in to America it’s easy to see how one party, the racist one, will tend to have institutional advantages. They will also have a benefit of the doubt based on their demographics that empowers them to cheat and disenfranchise.

And with all that…we had the White House for 8 good years so they had get a little help from their Oligarch friends.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:00:41pm

The American public needs to prepare

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:01:02pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Resentment my friends is the machine that has kept conservatism oiled for years in this country.

There are some Conservatives in this Twitter thread that are pushing back against the mindless hate of the hate-right.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:01:09pm

re: #115 RiverBoy

one of the things i really like about parts of the internet, LGF especially, is that i have no idea who or what anyone is.

not their “race”, age, gender, height, sexual orientation, health status, what part of the country (usa) they are from, even what country they are in. and so much more.

even name handles arent a sure bet (there’s satire, irony, and sarcasm out there)

sometimes we let stuff slip - accidentally or on purpose and for a moment i might think i just learned something new that fits in with what i thought i already knew about someone.

and then a wonderful thing. i promptly forget. not it’s not alzheimers or even sometimers. its usually just not relevant to who you are and what you stand for re issues, positions and points of view.

that’s what tells me who you all are: how you arrive at the thoughts and decisions and opinions you have.

i also like that there are so many smart and insightful people who like to hang out here at LGF.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:01:39pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:02:42pm

Has Dana’s mouth always been crooked, or does she have neurological damage?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:03:38pm

re: #135 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

“We are witnesses to the most ruthless attack on a president & the people who voted for him…in American history.” -@DLoesch #NRA
— NRATV

Actually, a true statement. Rightwing attacks on President Obama were ruthless and unwarranted.

/

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:03:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:04:11pm

re: #135 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

There are some Conservatives in this Twitter thread that are pushing back against the mindless hate of the hate-right.

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I’m glad because fuck her and her gun fetish.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:04:13pm

The replies to that Mooch tweet are just packed with Holocaust deniers.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:05:11pm

re: #131 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:07:05pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:07:12pm

re: #135 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

There are some Conservatives in this Twitter thread that are pushing back against the mindless hate of the hate-right.

No true conservative would criticize the NRA…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:07:13pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

The replies to that Mooch tweet are just packed with Holocaust deniers.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:08:16pm

re: #145 Sir John Barron

No true conservative would criticize the NRA…

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CINO!!!

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:09:11pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Now he’s begging for retweets to stop it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:10:31pm

re: #148 JordanRules

Now he’s begging for retweets to stop it.

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Frankenstein hates it when his monster fights back.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:10:36pm

re: #148 JordanRules

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:10:52pm

re: #140 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

And a couple more were nearly assassinated (and I’m limiting this to those on American soil by Americans).

Teddy Roosevelt. FDR. Jackson. Taft. Hoover. Truman. Nixon. Ford. Carter. Reagan. Clinton. GWB. Obama.

So yeah, the odds are that a president has been subject of an assassination attempt than not. 17 of 45 were subject of assassination attempts (Garfield, Lincoln, McKinley, JFK were assassinated). 37% of presidents have been subject of assassination attempts.

In fact, every president since Nixon has been subject of a domestic assassination attempt.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:11:17pm

re: #136 dangerman

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i also like that there are so many smart and insightful people who like to hang out here at LGF.

Well, I’m trying anyway /s

My wife says I can be really trying /s

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:12:03pm
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calochortus  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:12:30pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

The replies to that Mooch tweet are just packed with Holocaust deniers.

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I take it he missed the fact that it was 1.5 million at Auschwitz-Berkenau? It’s right there in the photo.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:13:55pm
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:14:42pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:15:07pm
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petesh  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:16:00pm

re: #155 Ace-o-aces

I see a little silhouetto of a man,
Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Fandango?
Thunderbolt and lightning
Very, very frightening …

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bratwurst  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:16:27pm

I was busy with sports last night and didn’t see Maddow as it aired. However, I started seeing things like this online:

So obviously I braced myself as I sat down to watch.

In reality, there was absolutely no “conspiracy mongering” at all.

What I did see was Rachel educating her audience on the region in general, and exploring the addition of Chad to the travel ban in particular. These are both highly worthwhile endeavors that cannot be found elsewhere on TV. She did openly wonder if this might have something to do with Trump’s refusal to speak about 4 dead Americans in Niger. In my book, that is a far cry from a conspiracy theory.

Maddow is not perfect and is a TV personality above anything else. Academics and others can and should be critical of the news media full stop. Maybe just find something more substantive to complain about?

Here is the segment in question in case you missed it and wish to judge for yourself:

msnbc.com

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:16:32pm

re: #16 Kragar

[Embedded content]”We are witnesses to the most ruthless attack on a president & the people who voted for him…in American history.

shining the light of day on truth, (with or without video) is not an attack

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:17:49pm

re: #160 dangerman

shining the light of day on truth, (with or without video) is not an attack

What’s pretty pathetic about this NRA whinefest is they did nothing but attack Obama and the people who supported him. The NRA is nothing but the armed wing of the GOP.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:18:42pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

I find myself wondering where I’d go if I chose to leave because many other countries seem to be having similar problems. It’s like the whole world is going mad.

Canada seems like the best bet.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:18:52pm

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I’m trying anyway /s

My wife says I can be really trying /s

i get that eyeroll too
a lot
i remind her she chose me. voluntarily

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:19:25pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:19:34pm

re: #154 calochortus

I take it he missed the fact that it was 1.5 million at Auschwitz-Berkenau? It’s right there in the photo.

He knows. He’s just lying because he’s a Nazi.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:20:06pm

re: #162 Big Beautiful Door

Canada seems like the best bet.

Yeah not too far and no language barrier.

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JordanRules  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:21:08pm

re: #159 bratwurst

My perspective is the same as yours. I thought it was a great segment. I learned a lot and I don’t think there was anything irresponsible about it in the least.

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calochortus  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:21:40pm

re: #165 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He knows. He’s just lying because he’s a Nazi.

Well, yeah, but you’d think he’d have cut off the bottom of the plaque which makes it obvious they aren’t talking about the total number everywhere.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:21:41pm

re: #159 bratwurst

psst…

i downloaded a bunch of bernie gunther novels and started reading the first one last night

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:22:17pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:22:33pm

re: #166 HappyWarrior

Yeah not too far and no language barrier.

High bar for immigration or residency though. If you don’t have a necessary skill or a ton of money (or if you are disabled or otherwise a burden), you are out of luck with Canada.

And if crap really does hit the fan here they are not going to accept 100 million refugees.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:24:50pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:25:49pm

re: #168 calochortus

Well, yeah, but you’d think he’d have cut off the bottom of the plaque which makes it obvious they aren’t talking about the total number everywhere.

Unfortunately he doesn’t have to. His Nazi chums won’t read the plaque, and he doesn’t care that smarter people call him out for lying, since they’re just libtards to the RWNJ mind.

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bratwurst  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:26:33pm

re: #169 dangerman

psst…

i downloaded a bunch of bernie gunther novels and started reading the first one last night

Great thing about them: they are all out of sequence so it doesn’t REALLY matter the order in which you read them.

The first three are now bundled together as the “Berlin Noir” trilogy. However, I feel like Kerr has became a better author in the years he took off from the series (and stopped making a few anachronistic mistakes) so I would not necessarily recommend anyone has to start there.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:29:06pm

I intend to keep hammering at the point that Republicans reject American values. They can go on about their wicked Conservative “values”, but those are not American values.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:29:55pm

There are days this seems true:

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:29:55pm

re: #174 bratwurst

Great thing about them: they are all out of sequence so it doesn’t REALLY matter the order in which you read them.

The first three are now bundled together as the “Berlin Noir” trilogy. However, I feel like Kerr has became a better author in the years he took off from the series (and stopped making a few anachronistic mistakes) so I would not necessarily recommend anyone has to start there.

well im six pages (fell asleep) in so im committed to march violets now ;-)

and i take your point

sometimes its interesting to see an author develop chronologically
and as you say, other times their early work is not their best

ill letcha know

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:31:21pm

re: #164 JordanRules

I don’t see it as a congratulations as much as pointing out the fact, but the last tweet is correct that the news doesn’t own its own role in all of this.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:32:35pm

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]Press Sec. Sanders: “If you want to get into a debate with a 4-star Marine general, I think that that’s something highly inappropriate.”

who the hell are you? you’re a spokesbot (ok a person)
you arent the gatekeeper and you dont set policy
and no one cares what you think is “inappropriate”

what are you protecting him from?
it was his speech. his words.

he’s perfectly capable of speaking for himself (or running and hiding)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:32:38pm

re: #171 Anymouse 🌹

High bar for immigration or residency though. If you don’t have a necessary skill or a ton of money (or if you are disabled or otherwise a burden), you are out of luck with Canada.

And if crap really does hit the fan here they are not going to accept 100 million refugees.

Yeah that’s true too and I’m a paralegal in US law but Canadian law is a different animal.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:32:57pm

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹

There are days this seems true:

Lot’s of people should send this to jack.

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bratwurst  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:33:45pm

re: #177 dangerman

well im six pages (fell asleep) in so im committed to march violets now ;-)

and i take your point

sometimes its interesting to see an author develop chronologically
and as you say, other times their early work is not their best

ill letcha know

Please do! I am also very much the same way, like to read a series in sequence even when not strictly necessary. However, the Jo Nesbø novels being translated out of sequence got me a bit out of the habit.

Unfortunately, the first ever movie based on one of those novels being released today in the US, The Snowman, is getting terrible reviews. :(

If you or anyone else is up for some dark Scandinavian crime fiction, the place to start there is The Redbreast.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:35:05pm

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹

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KGxvi  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:35:17pm

re: #179 dangerman

who the hell are you? you’re a spokesbot (ok a person)
you arent the gatekeeper and you dont set policy
and no one cares what you think is “inappropriate”

what are you protecting him from?
it was his speech. his words.

he’s perfectly capable of speaking for himself (or running and hiding)

Quick, you’re being challenged on something that you said that probably wasn’t correct, what do you do? Do you:

A. Clarify your statement
B. Admit that you may have misinterpreted the thing
C. Make an appeal to authority in the worst possible way because you’re appealing to your own (perceived) authority

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:35:54pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

The replies to that Mooch tweet are just packed with Holocaust deniers.

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Dumbshit can’t even read.

1.5 million Jews murdered at AUSCHWITZ alone.

There were other extermination camps, not to mention mass shootings, etc.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:36:46pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s true too and I’m a paralegal in US law but Canadian law is a different animal.

If I want to live in Canada rather than just visit, I’m going to have to win the Lotto.

I don’t think my VA disability is a sufficient bar to live there, even with my wife’s and my own medical care covered here.

Mexico is also nice… . not sure about their requirements.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:38:34pm
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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:38:39pm

re: #184 KGxvi

Quick, you’re being challenged on something that you said that probably wasn’t correct, what do you do? Do you:

A. Clarify your statement
B. Admit that you may have misinterpreted the thing
C. Make an appeal to authority in the worst possible way because you’re appealing to your own (perceived) authority

Which shouldn’t work when, as either a servicemember or an advisor to the president, they work for us.

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Brian J.  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:39:27pm

Some good news for a change, hopefully:

Looks like the Sandbaggers are being thrown out of the Democratic cactus*.

* - You know this joke, right?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:39:49pm
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:40:10pm

re: #182 bratwurst

Please do! I am also very much the same way, like to read a series in sequence even when not strictly necessary. However, the Jo Nesbø novels being translated out of sequence got me a bit out of the habit.

Unfortunately, the first ever movie based on one of those novels being released today in the US, The Snowman, it getting terrible reviews. :(

If you or anyone else is up for some dark Scandinavian crime fiction, the place to start there is The Redbreast.

ok the redbreast is on the list but now its gonna be a while

i start at the beginning of series if i have no other info. of course sometimes you can just pick and choose “the best” ones if you have some guidance.

A month or so back i was listening to sue grafton interviewed on npr. So i gave A is for… and U is for… a try. i wasnt going to do the whole alphabet. Turns out the main character is a bit of a runner so some of her observations resonated nicely

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:40:24pm

re: #189 Brian J.

Maybe, Clair, he could, you know, join the party.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:41:12pm

re: #184 KGxvi

Quick, you’re being challenged on something that you said that probably wasn’t correct, what do you do? Do you:

A. Clarify your statement
B. Admit that you may have misinterpreted the thing
C. Make an appeal to authority in the worst possible way because you’re appealing to your own (perceived) authority

D. wish for the 1000th time today you had a different job

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:44:05pm

If I were on the committee, I would require any candidate to have been with the party at least one year by the time the first primary/caucus comes around.

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KGxvi  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:44:33pm

re: #193 dangerman

D. wish for the 1000th time today you had a different job

Here’s the thing, I don’t think anyone in the Trump Administration wishes they had a different job. I don’t buy the “adults in the room” stuff anymore. If they believed it was that bad, they’d have already gone to Ryan and McConnell and told them to pull the trigger on removing the president. They are there because they want to be there.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:45:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:45:14pm

MRAs such as DoucheV weigh in:

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:46:26pm

re: #196 The Vicious Babushka

Cool. Is the right afraid yet?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:48:11pm

re: #198 Belafon

Cool. Is the right afraid yet?

How did FOX learn people on the left own guns?

Who ratted us out? Thirty lashes with a wet noodle.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:48:40pm
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:49:09pm

re: #194 Belafon

If I were on the committee, I would require them to have been with the party at least one year by the time the first primary/caucus comes around.

i really have to ask this?

how can you possibly be on a committee of an organization you are not a member of

if by “wing” you mean people who are members could represent your “point of view”, well they didnt make the cut

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KGxvi  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:50:31pm

re: #200 FormerDirtDart

There are moments when I wonder if (and other moments when I wonder when) Trump will start parading around in a military uniform with five stars on the shoulders.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:50:38pm

re: #201 dangerman

i really have to ask this?

how can you possibly be on a committee of an organization you are not a member of

if by “wing” you mean people who are members could represent your “point of view”, well they didnt make the cut

They want to eat their cake and have it to.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:51:23pm

re: #202 KGxvi

There are moments when I wonder if (and other moments when I wonder when) Trump will start parading around in a military uniform with five stars on the shoulders.

And how many people will talk about his glorious military service?

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TedStriker  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:52:07pm

re: #195 KGxvi

Here’s the thing, I don’t think anyone in the Trump Administration wishes they had a different job. I don’t buy the “adults in the room” stuff anymore. If they believed it was that bad, they’d have already gone to Ryan and McConnell and told them to pull the trigger on removing the president. They are there because they want to be there.

And they are there because they believe in the “mission”, which is to disassemble the federal government, piece-by-piece, and to raid the Treasury for everything they can get before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:52:22pm

re: #196 The Vicious Babushka

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Well by your own logic,FNC you should have no problem with this. 2nd amendment and all. Oh right, you don’t like lefties having guns and it gets in the way of your lefties are scardy cats bs.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:52:49pm

re: #195 KGxvi

Here’s the thing, I don’t think anyone in the Trump Administration wishes they had a different job. I don’t buy the “adults in the room” stuff anymore. If they believed it was that bad, they’d have already gone to Ryan and McConnell and told them to pull the trigger on removing the president. They are there because they want to be there.

it just looks to me like she’s not enjoying the job or having any fun at all - so to speak. a lot of the others are more or less quietly pursuing their warped agendas. she gets pummelled every day - yes any pressec would.

i think she hates her job more than trump hates his
i have no knowledge to back this up

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:53:10pm

re: #202 KGxvi

There are moments when I wonder if (and other moments when I wonder when) Trump will start parading around in a military uniform with five stars on the shoulders.

I said the same thing more less to some friends. When does he give himself a military rank?

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retired cynic  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:54:33pm

re: #202 KGxvi

There are moments when I wonder if (and other moments when I wonder when) Trump will start parading around in a military uniform with five stars on the shoulders.

6

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:54:42pm

re: #202 KGxvi

There are moments when I wonder if (and other moments when I wonder when) Trump will start parading around in a military uniform with five six stars on the shoulders.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:55:34pm

Why does DoucheV have a verified checkmark instead of being kicked off Twitter?

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retired cynic  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:55:36pm

re: #210 dangerman

9 secs!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:55:47pm

Anthony Scaramucci. Verified account. What is up with this asshole? What is his problem? The man was fired from the White House before he started his job. Is he so fucking stupid that he didn’t know that posting a poll on fucking twitter would bring out a ton of deniers? Does he not care? Is he trying to be dumber than or to seduce the rage furby? I hate this shit. It’s 2017, we don’t need more nazis or to give them a platform.

On the plus side I’m going to the movies with my son. We are going to see blade runner. Perhaps things will be better next time I log on. Probably not.

peace,

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:56:02pm

re: #209 retired cynic

6

nine stinkin’ seconds!

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retired cynic  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:56:29pm

re: #214 dangerman

nine stinkin’ seconds!

I WON!

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:56:53pm

re: #212 retired cynic

9 secs!

im not doing this again!

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retired cynic  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:57:35pm

re: #216 dangerman

im not doing this again!

snicker

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:59:02pm

re: #216 dangerman

im not doing this again!

Is this an insider-joke contest here? I’m missing something (no, not that).

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 1:59:54pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:01:09pm

Stand by for more conservative trolling:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:01:20pm

Evening Lizardim.

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retired cynic  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:01:28pm

re: #218 Anymouse 🌹

Is this an insider-joke contest here? I’m missing something (no, not that).

Sort of tag-you’re-it for people who are easily amused!

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RiverBoy  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:02:15pm

re: #121 Belafon

I understand all the things the Democrats are up against. Our system in place right now seems to be set up to give the Democrats the short end of the stick. I remember seeing a clip with Barney Frank talking about money in politics and he said something of the sort, would you rather have 100% of the money going to GOP or like it is now where they only get 75% and 25% goes to DNC. I couldn’t believe I heard something so stupid. He was trying to argue that a built in advantage for the right was somehow good for DNC. Since our country is basically a 2 party system the problem our country is facing is that one of those parties is completely bought and paid for and the other party that is supposed to be the counter balance seems to be from their own words only 25% bought and paid for. But that would mean 60% of all our representation is bought and paid for. This is not a both sides argument that plagues our media. Unfortunately one side (GOP) is not saveable. That means the other side (DNC) is the only hope we have of trying to get this country going in the right direction. But to me it seems that the DNC would prefer things stay the same as far as the river of money flowing through Washington. Too many people are making a good living off that money. Nothing in this country will change as long as outright bribery of our politicians is legal. Your views and policy mean absolutely nothing because whatever the money wants to distort, it will.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:02:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:03:11pm

More reminders of why I’ve never been a conservative

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:03:27pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:04:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:04:19pm

re: #225 Anymouse 🌹

More reminders of why I’ve never been a conservative

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They need to get lives.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:08:44pm

Jesus Christ, the right has lost Bill Kristol.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:11:16pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:11:20pm

re: #229 Ace-o-aces

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Jesus Christ, the right has lost Bill Kristol.

It’s a sign of the Derpocalypse.

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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:11:45pm

re: #229 Ace-o-aces

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Jesus Christ, the right has lost Bill Kristol.

Like I said yesterday, Kristol is speaking out for only one reason: Trump is saying out loud what Bill and his buddies used code to refer to for decades.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:15:07pm

Conservatives (or Russian agents, but at this point it’s getting hard to tell them apart) are so desperate to deflect they are now themselves faking up quotes from Mrs. Johnson to protect their Golden Calf.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:19:43pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:20:15pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:22:36pm
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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:23:15pm

re: #235 goddamnedfrank

Chuck’s the principal who would expel the bully and the person he attacked.

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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:23:26pm

re: #235 goddamnedfrank

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Ah, Chuck “It’s Not My Job To Correct the Record” Todd, the man who defies gravity by walking without a spine.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:23:50pm

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives (or Russian agents, but at this point it’s getting hard to tell them apart) are so desperate to deflect they are now themselves faking up quotes from Mrs. Johnson to protect their Golden Calf.

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That’s totally fake because that’s from Kelly’s speech the day after.

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petesh  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:24:27pm

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹

That was the script Kelly wrote, not the interpretation that Trump imposed on it.

In other words, this has to be fake, as I think you know from the way you presented it. Is it actually possible for anyone to get lower than this? That is NOT meant as a challenge.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:27:10pm

re: #240 petesh

That was the script Kelly wrote, not the interpretation that Trump imposed on it.

In other words, this has to be fake, as I think you know from the way you presented it. Is it actually possible for anyone to get lower than this? That is NOT meant as a challenge.

That and the substitution of the word “by” with “buy” (indicating either someone not familiar with English, or perhaps just a moran).

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KGxvi  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:27:31pm

re: #229 Ace-o-aces

When Bill Kristol is calling bullshit on your bullshit, you need to take a few moments to contemplate how your life went so incredibly wrong.

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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:27:49pm

The crowd that insists that they “SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!!!111” are now so desperate to defend a draft dodger that they’re cramming words into a widow’s mouth.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:31:53pm

re: #243 Targetpractice

The crowd that insists that they “SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!!!111” are now so desperate to defend a draft dodger that they’re cramming words into a widow’s mouth.

Aaand, I see my own Gold Star Family button is still a symbol of protest ever since Trump attacked Khzir and Ghazala Khan, and then Carl Paladino attacked all Gold Star family members that spoke out in support.

Is there anyone in the GOP with enough shame to call this out? Anyone at all?

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KGxvi  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:31:57pm

re: #243 Targetpractice

The crowd that insists that they “SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!!!111” are now so desperate to defend a draft dodger that they’re cramming words into a widow’s mouth.

The 2004 conventions is when I really first started moving away from the GOP. The purple heart band aids, the Zell Miller speech, and Obama’s Red State/Blue State Speech. It’s only gotten worse since then.

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fern01  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:34:36pm

re: #189 Brian J.

Some good news for a change, hopefully:

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Looks like the Sandbaggers are being thrown out of the Democratic cactus*.

* - You know this joke, right?

Did Bernie ever join the democratic party? Not that I can recall - so no reason for him to be represented anywhere in the party.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:34:51pm

Iframe

Edit
Translation: “breastfeeding is something beautiful for mom and her baby”.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:35:28pm

re: #246 fern01

Did Bernie ever join the democratic party? Not that I can recall - so no reason for him to be represented anywhere in the party.

Nope.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:35:31pm

Conservatives are dropping their demands for billions in mandatory spending cuts as GOP House leaders ready to take up the Senate-passed budget next week, a key step for tax reform.

??? what’s this? grandma gets to keep her medicare if only the multinationals can get their precious tax cuts?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:37:01pm

On CNN - Kelly got the names wrong of the 2 cops the building was named after.

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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:37:09pm

re: #249 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Conservatives are dropping their demands for billions in mandatory spending cuts as GOP House leaders ready to take up the Senate-passed budget next week, a key step for tax reform.

??? what’s this? grandma gets to keep her medicare if only the multinationals can get their precious tax cuts?

Republican is in the White House, so suddenly “deficits don’t matter.”

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:38:22pm

re: #249 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

I thought the Senate bill cut Medicaid and Medicare spending.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:38:59pm

re: #244 Anymouse 🌹

Is there anyone in the GOP with enough shame to call this out? Anyone at all?

No.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:39:03pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:40:04pm

re: #240 petesh

That was the script Kelly wrote, not the interpretation that Trump imposed on it.

In other words, this has to be fake, as I think you know from the way you presented it. Is it actually possible for anyone to get lower than this? That is NOT meant as a challenge.

Not meant as a challenge, but it will be taken as one. As one of my favorite sayings goes, “Anytime you think you’ve made a system idiot-proof, God builds a bigger idiot.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:40:21pm

re: #250 Stanley Sea

On CNN - Kelly got the names wrong of the 2 cops the building was named after.

Now who was being disrespectful.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:40:59pm

re: #256 HappyWarrior

Now who was being disrespectful.

IOKIYAR

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:41:28pm

re: #236 FormerDirtDart

They sure as hell are. More if trump wins a second term.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:42:00pm

Thread (four tweets):

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:43:00pm

re: #252 Belafon

I thought the Senate bill cut Medicaid and Medicare spending.

hmm maybe i jumped the gun

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:45:36pm

re: #259 Anymouse 🌹

Thread (four tweets):

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Who is over the Coast Guard? Not DOT!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:45:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:48:26pm

re: #262 goddamnedfrank

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10:30 Random Guys You’ve Chatted To At Bars.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:51:22pm

re: #229 Ace-o-aces

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Jesus Christ, the right has lost Bill Kristol.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:51:25pm

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives (or Russian agents, but at this point it’s getting hard to tell them apart) are so desperate to deflect they are now themselves faking up quotes from Mrs. Johnson to protect their Golden Calf.

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I don’t buy it being her given her in laws have supported Congresswoman Wilson and she would know that Congresswoman Wilson isn’t just “some politician” to this family.

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:56:57pm

re: #260 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

hmm maybe i jumped the gun

Probably not.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:57:45pm

Sandy Rios at the Values Voter Summit, claimed George Soros crashed the economy in 2008 to get Barack Obama elected.

rightwingwatch.org

“The world is filled with George Soros, and not with his money, but that’s why communism, too, has such a root and has still survived after so many decades—thriving, in fact,” Rios said.

Wildmon said that Soros’ identity as a Jewish atheist meant that he hated God in his heart because atheists live their life without purpose and look towards “nothing.”

“That always explains the difference between Christians/conservatives—they’re not the same, necessarily, as we both know—and liberals/atheists, because they live for today. That’s why they fight so hard,” Rios said.

Wildmon said one would think that atheists “wouldn’t be motivated by much of anything” because they don’t possess any “purpose or meaning in life.” Rios replied that atheist communists like Soros are motivated by Satan.

rightwingwatch.org (more)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:57:52pm

re: #261 Joe Bacon 🌹

A throw up between DOD and Homeland Security

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:58:31pm

re: #261 Joe Bacon 🌹

Who is over the Coast Guard? Not DOT!

Not the Department of Defense as indicated in the updated EO that Mr. Wright highlighted, either.

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petesh  Oct 20, 2017 • 2:59:00pm

re: #255 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Not meant as a challenge, but it will be taken as one. As one of my favorite sayings goes, “Anytime you think you’ve made a system idiot-proof, God builds a bigger idiot.”

Back in ancient history, I used to beta-test software that a friend of mine was reviewing. It never took me more than half an hour to crash it. My MO was very simple: ignore what the engineers thought I might want and try to do something I actually did want to do. Worked every single time. Of course, that’s what beta tests are for; I was the useful idiot. But your quote is applicable here, too …

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:01:12pm

I made the fatal mistake of listening to the last 5 minutes of Press The Meat. Chuck U REALLY snorted the Magic Balance Fairy Dust® today!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:01:53pm

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹

Sandy Rios at the Values Voter Summit, claimed George Soros crashed the economy in 2008 to get Barack Obama elected.

rightwingwatch.org

rightwingwatch.org (more)

She needs to get help if she actually believes that not given a platform.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:02:08pm

re: #270 petesh

Back in ancient history, I used to beta-test software that a friend of mine was reviewing. It never took me more than half an hour to crash it. My MO was very simple: ignore what the engineers thought I might want and try to do something I actually did want to do. Worked every single time. Of course, that’s what beta tests are for; I was the useful idiot. But your quote is applicable here, too …

My wife did alpha testing on software and hardware when she worked for Digital Equipment Corporation. She used the same technique (tried to break them by doing something the engineers didn’t provide or something she wanted them to do).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:05:09pm

re: #272 HappyWarrior

She needs to get help if she actually believes that not given a platform.

There are millions of brainwashed marks who believe the bullshit that comes out of Rios’ mouth ass…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:05:19pm

re: #270 petesh

Back in ancient history, I used to beta-test software that a friend of mine was reviewing. It never took me more than half an hour to crash it. My MO was very simple: ignore what the engineers thought I might want and try to do something I actually did want to do. Worked every single time. Of course, that’s what beta tests are for; I was the useful idiot. But your quote is applicable here, too …

I used to be in QA. I did the same thing, but I had a co-worker who took it to an extreme. He was dissatisfied that the company was planning on launching their flagship product, feeling that it was far too complex and hadn’t been tested satisfactorily. To that end, he decided to file at least one show-stopping bug every day until they moved the release date. They moved him instead, but it was an amazing run.

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retired cynic  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:05:31pm

re: #245 KGxvi

The 2004 conventions is when I really first started moving away from the GOP. The purple heart band aids, the Zell Miller speech, and Obama’s Red State/Blue State Speech. It’s only gotten worse since then.

And here is Charlie Pierce to express what I think about the GWB speech.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:06:45pm

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹

Sandy Rios at the Values Voter Summit, claimed George Soros crashed the economy in 2008 to get Barack Obama elected.

rightwingwatch.org

rightwingwatch.org (more)

great caesar’s ghost, do i get up in their nose and tell them they feel no responsibility to live a moral life cuz god lets xians into heaven sola fides on the basis of faith only and will grant absolution for any sin?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:07:32pm

Alzheimer’s

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:07:38pm

re: #270 petesh

Back in ancient history, I used to beta-test software that a friend of mine was reviewing. It never took me more than half an hour to crash it. My MO was very simple: ignore what the engineers thought I might want and try to do something I actually did want to do. Worked every single time. Of course, that’s what beta tests are for; I was the useful idiot. But your quote is applicable here, too …

:-) :-)

you’re hired!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:08:47pm
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petesh  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:09:29pm

re: #279 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

:-) :-)

you’re hired!

Does it pay better than poetry?

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TedStriker  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:09:51pm

re: #246 fern01

Did Bernie ever join the democratic party? Not that I can recall - so no reason for him to be represented anywhere in the party.

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Nope.

Actually, Bernie did officially become a Democrat prior to the primaries, because that was the only way he could legally run as a Democrat in many states.

However, shortly after Trump’s victory, Bernie dropped his Democratic registration and went back to being an “independent” (and, from what I read in a couple of places earlier this year, he had been planning well before the general to drop the Dems like a hot potato as soon as it became convenient, in order to run as a “independent” again in his Senate re-election next year).

He’s such a fuckhead, so in love with having adoring crowds chanting his name that he helped to fuck over the entire country for a generation or more.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:10:16pm

re: #278 FormerDirtDart

Alzheimer’s

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Fucking a

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VegasGolfer  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:10:23pm

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹

But he couldnt keep trump from being elected?
How stupid are these people?
Don’t answer that.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:10:28pm

re: #270 petesh

Back in ancient history, I used to beta-test software that a friend of mine was reviewing. It never took me more than half an hour to crash it. My MO was very simple: ignore what the engineers thought I might want and try to do something I actually did want to do. Worked every single time. Of course, that’s what beta tests are for; I was the useful idiot. But your quote is applicable here, too …

“but why did you click there???

“because i could”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:11:17pm

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

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The family is backing her up, you projecting jerks.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:12:13pm

re: #281 petesh

Does it pay better than poetry?

a dollar a day and all the glory you can eat!

(seriously, i wish i had a budget to hire a QA for my own little company)

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EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:13:02pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Where has our country gone so wrong? I mean I get it, we were never perfect or what we proclaimed ourselves to be but we were better than this.

Decades of resentment based pandering to cranks and bigots by the GOP has led directly to this cesspit of Satan.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:14:10pm

re: #282 TedStriker

Actually, Bernie did officially become a Democrat prior to the primaries, because that was the only way he could legally run as a Democrat in many states.

However, shortly after Trump’s victory, Bernie dropped his Democratic registration and went back to being an “independent” (and, from what I read in a couple of places earlier this year, he had been planning well before the election to drop the Dems like a hot potato as soon as it became convenient, in order to run as a independent again in his Senate re-election next year).

He’s such a fuckhead.

Sorry, yeah you’re correct. I knew he had temporarily became a Dem then switched back to Indy. Anyhow, I’m seeing a lot of whining about him. He needs to join or shut up. And this whole “He’s the most popular politician in the country” is bs. He’s popular among white progressives of a certain age. And there’s plenty of us myself including who have no love for him at all since he’s one of the most egocentric and non team playing left wing politicians out there.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:14:37pm

I’m signing off now for 25 hours not No Internet.
Key Lime Pie for all!

Key Lime Pie!
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petesh  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:16:07pm

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

I’m signing off now for 25 hours not No Internet.
Key Lime Pie for all!

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A chorus of Yums ran around the table. Yum yum yum yum.

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:16:07pm

re: #278 FormerDirtDart

Alzheimer’s

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Which one?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:16:08pm

re: #274 Joe Bacon 🌹

There are millions of brainwashed marks who believe the bullshit that comes out of Rios’ mouth ass…

No doubt. And I had to laugh at that kook calling Soros a communist. Soros actually gets a lot of credit for having a role in ending communism in Eastern Europe. Rios is just a loon who knows nothing about anything except being a crazy kook.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:16:18pm

re: #286 HappyWarrior

The family is backing her up, you projecting jerks.

And by extension, FOX is also calling the Johnsons liars as well.

Way to go FOX, lying about a Gold Star family just like Kelly did. Like Trump did.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:16:19pm

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

I’m signing off now for 25 hours not No Internet.
Key Lime Pie for all!

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Oh my, want!

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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:16:35pm

I still remember when Bernie filed for reelection during the primaries, it said pretty prominently that he intended to run as an indie. But the Bros tried to bullshit folks into believing that it was just “preliminary,” he was totally dedicated to the Dem Party.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:16:46pm

re: #294 Anymouse 🌹

And by extension, FOX is also calling the Johnsons liars as well.

Way to go FOX, lying about a Gold Star family just like Kelly did. Like Trump did.

Yep. Fuckers. American Pravda is what FNC is.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:17:51pm

Well, after my wife just fed me about half a pumpkin pie, I’m getting sleepy. I need a nap … catch y’all later.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:18:35pm

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:18:50pm

Lawsuit threats are flying as the MAGA Girlz have a nasty catfight…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:19:04pm

re: #296 Targetpractice

I still remember when Bernie filed for reelection during the primaries, it said pretty prominently that he intended to run as an indie. But the Bros tried to bullshit folks into believing that it was just “preliminary,” he was totally dedicated to the Dem Party.

Which has turned out to be bs. I haven’t seen him campaign for anyone here in Virginia. He does have plenty of time to do his townhalls that he does as a head start for 2020 but not to actually campaign for the election of other candidates. He endorsed Perriello here for governor and did one measly event. Perriello since he lost to Northam meanwhile has been campaigning for Dems all over the state. The reason why I don’t like Bernie is simple. Bernie wants to make it all about him while disguising his movement as grassroots. He’s just as self absorbed as Trump is. People overlook that because they like his message.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:20:11pm

re: #299 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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FNC really is as responsible as the Russians are for spreading lies. And what’s more is FNC is worse since this is supposed to be an American news station but it’s really not. It’s propaganda for right wing assholes who like to be lied to.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:20:11pm

re: #285 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“but why did you click there???

“because i could”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:20:30pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:22:20pm

re: #300 Charles Johnson

Lawsuit threats are flying as the MAGA Girlz have a nasty catfight…

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EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:26:49pm

re: #232 Targetpractice

Like I said yesterday, Kristol is speaking out for only one reason: Trump is saying out loud what Bill and his buddies used code to refer to for decades.

Kristol et al. think open racism, malice etc. will damage the GOP brand, and that’s the only reason they disapprove.

Time will tell if a degeneration of the GOP into an openly hateful, bigoted sewer actually hurts them at the polls. The election of 2016 and the continuing GOP control of Congress and many state houses are discouraging facts.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:29:20pm

Uh oh, I’ve run afoul of the speech police again.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:30:51pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

Uh oh, I’ve run afoul of the speech police again.

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It can be frustrating as an old guy, but they’re right. We grew up in a sexist society and it shows.

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wrenchwench  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:31:33pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

Uh oh, I’ve run afoul of the speech police again.

[I have a low opinion of them, but calling it a catfight between gurlz is belittling them based on their gender, not their words and deeds]

Since when is ‘cat’ a term of belittlement?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:34:31pm

re: #259 Anymouse 🌹

I would love to read that but for some reason he blocked me?!?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:35:27pm

re: #308 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Sure, sexism is a problem. But I’m just as likely to use “catfight” to describe any petty squabble, and MAGA Gurlz is pretty obviously a mocking reference to their own descriptions for themselves. Sorry, but I don’t see this as a case of sexism.

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:39:45pm

re: #271 Joe Bacon 🌹

I made the fatal mistake of listening to the last 5 minutes of Press The Meat. Chuck U REALLY snorted the Magic Balance Fairy Dust® today!

I just wait an hour and try to catch Ari Melber. Much better in my mind. Ari knows law and doesn’t suffer bullshit at all.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:39:47pm

re: #311 Charles Johnson

Sure, sexism is a problem. But I’m just as likely to use “catfight” to describe any petty squabble, and MAGA Gurlz is pretty obviously a mocking reference to their own descriptions for themselves. Sorry, but I don’t see this as a case of sexism.

I see it as unintentional sexism. I’ve been called out for ingrained stuff myself, and have had a flash of anger at some lefty correcting me. I don’t recall what the specifics were, but I do remember that they were right.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:40:33pm

re: #304 Charles Johnson

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wait, who raped someone?

And lol Cassandra Fairbanks.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:40:55pm

re: #313 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I see it as unintentional sexism. I’ve been called out for ingrained stuff myself, and have had a flash of anger at some lefty correcting me. I don’t recall what the specifics were, but I do remember that they were right.

Yeah, that’s kinda where I’m at. It’s weird to think how many phrases we adopt that have underlying sexist/racist tones that we just don’t think about.

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stpaulbear  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:41:41pm

re: #311 Charles Johnson

Sure, sexism is a problem. But I’m just as likely to use “catfight” to describe any petty squabble, and MAGA Gurlz is pretty obviously a mocking reference to their own descriptions for themselves. Sorry, but I don’t see this as a case of sexism.

Call it a pissing contest and see how that goes over. It’s more gender neutral.
/////////////////

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:42:22pm

re: #314 Stanley Sea

wait, who raped someone?

And lol Cassandra Fairbanks.

Lauren Southern is accusing Laura Loomer of rape. I don’t know the details. Yeah, it’s pretty weird.

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petesh  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:47:23pm

re: #315 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, that’s kinda where I’m at. It’s weird to think how many phrases we adopt that have underlying sexist/racist tones that we just don’t think about.

For instance, “he” in certain circumstances, or even “she.” I’d been friends with lots of gay men and women for many years and thought myself oh so liberated as a straight guy until I started working with a trans person who wished to be referred to as “they.” I was taken aback but I got over it.

In the present case, it’s all about what language they use. Do they call themselves “MAGA girls”? It wouldn’t surprise me. But if not, we shouldn’t. And “catfight” is probably one to be avoided nowadays, along with “black humor” and various other expressions that have previously been regarded as acceptable if not normal. Shakespeare and Chaucer have permanent permission to carry on, but quoting them can occasionally get problematic; and very funny.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:50:18pm

re: #318 petesh

For instance, “he” in certain circumstances, or even “she.” I’d been friends with lots of gay men and women for many years and thought myself oh so liberated as a straight guy until I started working with a trans person who wished to be referred to as “they.” I was taken aback but I got over it.

In the present case, it’s all about what language they use. Do they call themselves “MAGA girls”? It wouldn’t surprise me. But if not, we shouldn’t. And “catfight” is probably one to be avoided nowadays, along with “black humor” and various other expressions that have previously been regarded as acceptable if not normal. Shakespeare and Chaucer have permanent permission to carry on, but quoting them can occasionally get problematic; and very funny.

It’s much harder to be a Liberal than to be Conservative. They can say anything, and we have to realize that things we’re totally blind to can be offensive.

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wrenchwench  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:51:42pm

‘Gurlz’ as opposed to ‘wimmins’ is a bigger offense (if they’re adults) than ‘cats’.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:56:06pm

re: #318 petesh

Wait - “black humor” is now supposed to be off limits? Even though it has nothing to do with race? Are we supposed to say “humor that deals with profound or disturbing events in a comic manner” instead?

I agree with trying to avoid giving offense, but come on. The word “black” is not automatically a racial reference.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:56:26pm

re: #242 KGxvi

When Bill Kristol is calling bullshit on your bullshit, you need to take a few moments to contemplate how your life went so incredibly wrong.

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:57:13pm

Boy, do we need this now.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:58:09pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

Wait - “black humor” is now supposed to be off limits? Even though it has nothing to do with race? Are we supposed to say “humor that deals with profound or disturbing events in a comic manner” instead?

I agree with trying to avoid giving offense, but come on. The word “black” is not automatically a racial reference.

I’m pretty sure “black humor” is still OK, but I’ll shift to “dark humor” if black people are upset by it.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:58:33pm

re: #304 Charles Johnson

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I don’t know who either one of those people are, I feel lucky.

Minor leaguers?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2017 • 3:59:33pm

re: #325 b.d. (bill d.)

Part of the blonde haired RWNJ eye candy brigade.

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:01:41pm

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:02:34pm

re: #326 Eclectic Cyborg

Part of the blonde haired RWNJ eye candy brigade.

Fox put me off of blondes.
/half

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:02:37pm

re: #326 Eclectic Cyborg

Part of the blonde haired RWNJ eye candy brigade.

That’s …..like……all of them…..

I guess I gave up following the lineups when Hobby Lobby Holly got busted f*cking around on her husband and gave up teh twitter machine.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:03:38pm

re: #327 Skip Intro

I didn’t just laugh at the pics in your post, I cackled.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:03:40pm

re: #310 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I would love to read that but for some reason he blocked me?!?

I can’t say why Mr. Wright would block you. Perhaps someone can ask him on your behalf.

The thread starts by noting that Trump came out with an order modifying GW Bush’s order allowing the Department of Transportation to call up reservists of the Coast Guard right after 9/11.

At that time the Coast Guard was still part of DOT, but was moved not too long afterwards to DHS.

Trump’s EO modifies the Bush order to say the Department of Defense can call up the Coast Guard’s reserve. The Coast Guard is not part of the Department of Defense.

He finishes noting these guys have no idea what they’re doing.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:05:28pm

re: #327 Skip Intro

You left out the best one! The one with Washington!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:05:46pm

re: #327 Skip Intro

Too funny! Where are these from?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:06:13pm

re: #325 b.d. (bill d.)

I don’t know who either one of those people are, I feel lucky.

Minor leaguers?

Probably best not to call them ‘bush league’….
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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:06:52pm

re: #332 Blind Frog Belly White

You left out the best one! The one with Washington!

I know, but that had already been posted.

How about this one for the sci-fi people?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:07:14pm

re: #327 Skip Intro

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It took me about 2 minutes to catch on.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:07:26pm

Shot:

Chaser:

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:08:51pm

re: #325 b.d. (bill d.)

Lauren: Former Rebel Media (Breitbart Canada) talking head. Last seen boating around the Mediterranean targeting migrant ships.

independent.co.uk

Laura: Another former Rebel dumbass, best known as the woman that rushed the stage at Othello. And #tiregate

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:09:14pm

re: #333 Charles Johnson

Too funny! Where are these from?

thefogbow.com

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:09:48pm

re: #337 Blind Frog Belly White

Easy test to see if someone’s a liar:
are they comfortable being married to a Trump?

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:10:22pm

re: #338 A dark and stormy covfefe

Lauren: Former Rebel Media (Breitbart Canada) talking head. Last seen boating around the Mediterranean targeting migrant ships.

bigleaguepolitics.com

Laura: Another former Rebel dumbass, best known as the woman that rushed the stage at Othello. And #tiregate

Thanks for that……wingnut welfare in action.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:10:47pm

re: #338 A dark and stormy covfefe

Lauren: Former Rebel Media (Breitbart Canada) talking head. Last seen boating around the Mediterranean targeting migrant ships.

bigleaguepolitics.com

Laura: Another former Rebel dumbass, best known as the woman that rushed the stage at Othello. And #tiregate

It’s not OK to say “‘tard fight” either, so I don’t know how to describe this.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:11:26pm

re: #342 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Live Youtube comment section?

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:11:40pm

re: #332 Blind Frog Belly White

You left out the best one! The one with Washington!

OK, just to complete the set.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:11:54pm

re: #342 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

To use a pro-wrestling term, heel vs. heel.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:12:46pm

re: #343 jaunte

Live Youtube comment section?

That’ll be off limits eventually, but I think it’s OK now.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:12:54pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:13:11pm

re: #345 A dark and stormy covfefe

To use a pro-wrestling term, heel vs. heel.

I knew wrestling must be good for something!

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danarchy  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:13:36pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

Wait - “black humor” is now supposed to be off limits? Even though it has nothing to do with race? Are we supposed to say “humor that deals with profound or disturbing events in a comic manner” instead?

I agree with trying to avoid giving offense, but come on. The word “black” is not automatically a racial reference.

Yeah that reminds of this ridiculousness:

The Black Hole - Commissioner John Wiley Price

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EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:14:11pm

re: #315 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, that’s kinda where I’m at. It’s weird to think how many phrases we adopt that have underlying sexist/racist tones that we just don’t think about.

“seminal” when used to refer to important early work in science is a pet peeve of mine. The connotations are absolutely ghastly.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:14:45pm

JFC

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:15:16pm

re: #345 A dark and stormy covfefe

To use a pro-wrestling term, heel vs. heel.

The Family Values crowd, I bet, whining about the moral decay of our nation.

They want to bring back a “Leave it to Beaver” America not realizing that they are acting like the girls that Lumpy are selling on the street.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:15:32pm

re: #350 EPR-radar

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:17:11pm

re: #352 b.d. (bill d.)

Who the fuck are these women and why should I care, especially noting that one of them is palling around with Rage Furby (which tells me all I need to know about that one).

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:18:23pm

re: #353 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

late 14c., from Latin semen “seed of plants, animals, or men; race, inborn characteristic; posterity, progeny, offspring,” figuratively “origin, essence, principle, cause,” from PIE *semen- “seed,” suffixed form of root *se- (1) “to sow” (source also of Latin serere “to sow,” Old Prussian semen “seed,” Lithuanian semens “seed of flax,” Old Church Slavonic seme, Old High German samo “seed,” German Same; see sow (v.)).etymonline.com

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:18:46pm

re: #354 lawhawk

Who the fuck are these women and why should I care, especially noting that one of them is palling around with Rage Furby (which tells me all I need to know about that one).

They’re both big shots in the “alt-right” scumbag world.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:18:55pm

re: #354 lawhawk

Who the fuck are these women and why should I care, especially noting that one of them is palling around with Rage Furby (which tells me all I need to know about that one).

They are just trying to MAGA by destroying each other and for that I thank them.

Any division in the wingnut collective is welcome.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:18:57pm
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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:19:50pm

re: #357 b.d. (bill d.)

Any division in the wingnut collective is welcome.

It always comes down to crabs in a bucket with them.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:20:15pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Yep. She was raising awareness for important issues. What has Melania actually done? Laura Bush raised awareness for reading and even Nancy Reagan whose Just Say No campaign was ultimately fruitless had good intentions.

“Internet bullying”. She’s doing a smashing good job!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:20:39pm

re: #351 Charles Johnson

JFC

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Does his “hot Asian wife” know about this?

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:21:11pm

re: #358 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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And the wingnuts would like for you to believe that the word “cracker” is the unspeakably bad C word…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:21:23pm

re: #361 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Does his “hot Asian wife” know about this?

Ex-wife, I think, by the way he’s been acting.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:21:57pm

re: #363 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Ex-wife, I think, by the way he’s been acting.

And here I thought today was no good.

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wrenchwench  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:23:26pm

I can’t decide whether they are sharing a spaceship or a stall.

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petesh  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:23:41pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

Wait - “black humor” is now supposed to be off limits? Even though it has nothing to do with race? Are we supposed to say “humor that deals with profound or disturbing events in a comic manner” instead?

I agree with trying to avoid giving offense, but come on. The word “black” is not automatically a racial reference.

I dunno, I ran into this somewhere so I dropped using it. I was blind to its significance. Oops, I wasn’t actually blind, I was, um, thoughtless. Gawd it’s difficult. Remember the old Agatha Christie novel Ten Little n*****s, I mean Ten Little Indians, I mean Ten Little Soldiers, I mean And Then There Were None. I think that was the final title.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:24:13pm

re: #351 Charles Johnson

Lauren’s also been known to pal around with Charles.

Top comment on twitter “Did he shit on your floor?”.

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:24:30pm

re: #352 b.d. (bill d.)

I keep confusing Laura Loomer with Lisa Loopner in Romy and Michelle’s High School Reunion.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:24:41pm

re: #359 jaunte

It always comes down to crabs in a bucket with them.

Heh.

I remember, years ago, after a particularly productive night of crabbing down on the Patuxent, my Dad trying to pick up crabs one at a time to throw in the pot to steam. He pulled one up, and they all came up, like ‘Barrel Of Monkeys’.

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petesh  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:25:57pm

re: #366 petesh

And the software auto-replaces even within a strike-out!

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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:26:24pm

re: #347 lawhawk

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I may just be a simple, dumb “liburl”…but wasn’t the crux of the whole “OBAMA/HILLARY LEFT THEM TO DIE!!!” bit the idea that the Stevens had asked for beefed up security and it was denied?

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Citizen K  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:29:35pm

We really are never recovering from this presidency, are we?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:29:55pm

re: #371 Targetpractice

I may just be a simple, dumb “liburl”…but wasn’t the crux of the whole “OBAMA/HILLARY LEFT THEM TO DIE!!!” bit the idea that the Stevens had asked for beefed up security and it was denied?

That, and the claim, refuted multiple times, that we could have sent in some team of Spec. Ops. folks, who apparently wingnuts believe are just waiting around all over the globe, heavily armed, ready to drop in anywhere with 20 minutes notice.

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EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:31:55pm

re: #372 Citizen K

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We really are never recovering from this presidency, are we?

This Farr nomination isn’t a t****ist abomination. This is an absolutely mainstream Republican abomination.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:31:56pm

re: #372 Citizen K

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We really are never recovering from this presidency, are we?

I’m pretty sure the org is the Republican party.

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EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:33:02pm

re: #375 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I’m pretty sure the org is the Republican party.

There are only two kinds of Republicans:

1) Proud racists

2) Closeted racists

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Citizen K  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:33:41pm

re: #374 EPR-radar

This Farr nomination isn’t a t****ist abomination. This is an absolutely mainstream Republican abomination.

Absolutely, but the Trump win help galvanize the idea that they could literally get everything they wanted within this term, and they seem to be making good on that for good.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:36:21pm

re: #352 b.d. (bill d.)

The Family Values crowd, I bet, whining about the moral decay of our nation.

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They want to bring back a “Leave it to Beaver” America not realizing that they are acting like the girls that Lumpy are selling on the street.

If we ever do see another outbreak of large scale political violence in this country, ie “Civil War II,” it will very quickly deteriorate into the various RWNJ factions, gangs, and militias (organized and ad hoc alike) fighting each other in the streets. It is the nature of the beast, that is, purity as a primary value.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:38:54pm

re: #378 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

If we ever do see another outbreak of large scale political violence in this country, ie “Civil War II,” it will very quickly deteriorate into the various RWNJ factions, gangs, and militias (organized and ad hoc alike) fighting each other in the streets. It is the nature of the beast, that is, purity as a primary value.

Look at their leader, he doesn’t have time to fight with democrats* because he is too busy fighting with his own party.

*except for African American female democrats, they ALWAYS find time to fight with them.

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EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:40:08pm

re: #378 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

If we ever do see another outbreak of large scale political violence in this country, ie “Civil War II,” it will very quickly deteriorate into the various RWNJ factions, gangs, and militias (organized and ad hoc alike) fighting each other in the streets. It is the nature of the beast, that is, purity as a primary value.

Unfortunately the only thing that will unify rabble like that is a common enemy, which t**** could very easily provide.

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stpaulbear  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:40:20pm

re: #375 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I’m pretty sure the org is the Republican party.

I believe that The Heritage Foundation is feeding Trump judical picks.

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Chrysicat  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:40:49pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:41:34pm

‘Dead serious’ Pennsylvania GOP mayoral candidate determined to enact ‘narco bunnies’ plan to sniff out drugs

While many police departments employ K-9 units that are used to sniff out explosives and drugs, one Republican mayoral candidate wants to see bunnies do the work.

It all began when the Amherst, New York police proposed a drug-sniffing bunnies as part of an April Fool’s joke on their Facebook, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported. During a Phoenixville, Pennsylvania mayoral forum, GOP nominee Dave Gautreau actually proposed that if he was elected to the Mayor’s office he would find drug-sniffing bunnies for the police department.

Despite snickers, he wasn’t kidding and doubled down.

“I was dead serious,” he said. “I would not make a joke about a rabbit if I did not believe it to be true.”

Proving yet again that Republicans have no sense of the absurd.

rawstory.com

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:42:13pm

re: #381 stpaulbear

I believe that The Heritage Foundation is feeding Trump judical picks.

They are. They’ve got an assembly line feeding directly into the WH.

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TedStriker  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:43:13pm

re: #342 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s not OK to say “‘tard fight” either, so I don’t know how to describe this.

Slap fight?

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:45:18pm

re: #385 TedStriker

In honor of the president I think it should be called a pussy whipping.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:45:24pm

re: #371 Targetpractice

I may just be a simple, dumb “liburl”…but wasn’t the crux of the whole “OBAMA/HILLARY LEFT THEM TO DIE!!!” bit the idea that the Stevens had asked for beefed up security and it was denied?

Yeah, that was part of it - the other part the GOP conveniently left off was that the GOP cut the funding for diplomatic security.

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Chrysicat  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:46:12pm

re: #372 Citizen K

Not without a whole new Freedom Summer or even Freedom Decade, and not before the oldest people in the country will have been born in the Carter Administration, no.

It’s why I don’t follow people who put out the #indivisible hashtag anymore.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:51:37pm

Because of course….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:52:38pm

re: #389 Ace-o-aces

Perfect.

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petesh  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:52:51pm

re: #388 Chrysicat

It’s going to be war, isn’t it? I mean, literally, a foreign war. With tens of thousands of US casualties and hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of others, so to speak. I hope I’m wrong.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:58:05pm

re: #389 Ace-o-aces

That story came up during the campaign too. It’s resurfaced because a lifelong liar can’t stop lying. He’ll continue claiming that the lies are real and any criticism is fake news.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 4:58:05pm

re: #389 Ace-o-aces

Because of course….

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Trump had the original stolen from the museum and a forgery hung in its place.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:00:23pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:12:51pm
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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:13:00pm

re: #394 jaunte

General Mattis wouldn’t say whether Trump authorized the mission in Niger.

So, either he green-lighted it and is too much of a coward to own it, or someone else authorized it, revealing Trump as an empty suit in the Big Chair while someone else calls the shots.

Either way, Trump looks like a bitch.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:13:25pm

Trump trying to hang on to his evangelicals.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:14:22pm

Robert Jeffress probably hasn’t even learned to play the harp yet.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:14:51pm

re: #383 Skip Intro

‘Dead serious’ Pennsylvania GOP mayoral candidate determined to enact ‘narco bunnies’ plan to sniff out drugs

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Proving yet again that Republicans have no sense of the absurd.

rawstory.com

dead serious narco bunnies

opening for the goo goo dolls nov 18th

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:16:47pm

re: #397 jaunte

Trump trying to hang on to his evangelicals.

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More accurately no one knows a damn thing about the “place called heaven”.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:17:14pm

re: #398 jaunte

Robert Jeffress probably hasn’t even learned to play the harp yet.

He’s too busy playing the Hannity at the moment:

SPECIAL GUEST: SEAN HANNITY

Be our guest for an exciting Sunday at First Baptist Dallas as Dr. Jeffress interviews Sean Hannity, host of “The Sean Hannity Show” on radio and “Hannity” on Fox News Channel, about his new Christian film, Let There Be Light, as well as his faith and perspective on what is happening in America.

firstdallas.org

It’s almost like talking to God!!

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Weaselone  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:17:52pm

re: #396 makeitstop

So, either he green-lighted it and is too much of a coward to own it, or someone else authorized it, revealing Trump as an empty suit in the Big Chair while someone else calls the shots.

Either way, Trump looks like a bitch.

It’s beginning to look like they’ll throw the ambassador to Niger, an Obama appointee under the bus. One of the articles mentioned that the Ambassador fought against an expanded military presence despite the request for more troops and resources.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:18:03pm

re: #397 jaunte

Trump trying to hang on to his evangelicals.

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The thing that got me was talking about “Judeo-Christian Values” and then immediately promising we’d be saying ‘Merry Christmas’.

I mean, who did he think folks were trying to include when they said ‘Happy Holidays’? Zoroastrians?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:18:51pm

re: #403 Blind Frog Belly White

(Obviously not just Jews, but they have a prominent holiday during the same season)

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:21:42pm

re: #404 Blind Frog Belly White

(Obviously not just Jews, but they have a prominent holiday during the same season)

Which they obviously stole from the Christians.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:21:47pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:22:17pm

re: #396 makeitstop

So, either he green-lighted it and is too much of a coward to own it, or someone else authorized it, revealing Trump as an empty suit in the Big Chair while someone else calls the shots.

Either way, Trump looks like a bitch.

Why, yes. Yes, he does.
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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:23:04pm
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:23:12pm

re: #397 jaunte

Trump trying to hang on to his evangelicals.

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TALKING HEADS - Heaven (Hollywood’s Pantages Theater, 1983) [Subtitle/HD]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:23:45pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:23:58pm

re: #406 jaunte

“Who will be in Heaven?”

Well, apparently NOT your dog. So, fuck that noise.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:24:09pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:25:29pm

re: #406 jaunte

I read the Bible a long time ago. There is no way to tell what heaven would be like from that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:26:46pm

re: #412 Charles Johnson

Everybody knows you don’t read, Donnie. But Jeffress is an especially horrible human being to promote. ]

True, but Trump is also an especially horrible human being.

Turds of a feather, you might say.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:26:52pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:27:24pm

re: #410 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have no problem with that. The DNC better get their game on pretty soon.

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EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:28:12pm

re: #408 jaunte

That’s strange. The US religious right is clearly a “cult-like pagan religion whose success reflects the genius of Satan.” I can prove my case vs. the US religious reich and Jeffress cannot prove that case vs. Catholicism.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:28:35pm

re: #413 EPR-radar

Isn’t it lucky we have Jeffress to fill in the gaps.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:29:35pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:30:11pm

re: #418 jaunte

Isn’t it lucky we have Jeffress to fill in the gaps.

Jeffress is an especially horrible human being, he might even be worse than Criswell who he replaced.

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EPR-radar  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:30:46pm

re: #418 jaunte

Isn’t it lucky we have Jeffress to fill in the gaps.

I wonder if Jeffress is one of those sick freaks that thinks people in heaven will be able to view or perceive the torments of the damned in hell for their entertainment.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:31:51pm

re: #419 Dave In Austin

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Don’t fool yourself for a second, Jeffress would impose his own version of Sharia law in a second if he had a chance and he thinks he has a chance.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:33:09pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:33:19pm

re: #419 Dave In Austin

All Trump cares is if the person praises him. Someone could write a book taking exactly the opposite positions of Jeffress, and if the author was a vocal Trump supporter, Trump would enthusiastically endorse the writing.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:33:23pm

Re: Floor pooper… *snicker* (I apologize ahead of time)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:34:00pm
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jaunte  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:34:31pm

Slouching toward fascism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:35:09pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:38:29pm

re: #406 jaunte

Elliott Lusztig @ezlusztig
This book recommends that, like tourists visiting a foreign country, Christians should study the Bible to learn what Heaven will be like.

look in the bible all you like, you’ll find precious little about heaven there, or hell either

judaism is much more concerned with life than any possible afterlife

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:41:04pm

To return to the earlier Kelly discussion, someone here probably made this argument: our memories are very fragile. Eyewitness testimony is notorious for being inaccurate, although jurors place a lot of credence in it. I doubt that Kelly realized he was lying; this is what he recalled after 2 years. The problem was not that his memory was wrong but that he felt a need to make these comments about her in the first place. It was inexcusable to dredge up that past event and to characterize her in such insulting terms. It just confirms that anyone working for Trump is contaminated by his dishonesty and racism.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:45:43pm

re: #406 jaunte

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I just can’t.

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Kragar  Oct 20, 2017 • 5:46:42pm

re: #347 lawhawk

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:01:08pm

re: #408 jaunte

Matthew Yglesias ✔@mattyglesias
Dr. Jeffress believes Catholicism is a “cult-like pagan religion” whose success reflects “the genius of Satan.”

Jeffress: Satan Behind Catholic Church


8:22 PM - Oct 20, 2017

Cool. I was a member of a cult.

They took me as a kid of 7 and schooled me in their cult ways for 12 years.

But I escaped to art school and broke away from the grips of The Pope and his minions.

I have a new back story.

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Teukka  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:48:56pm

re: #185 The Vicious Babushka

Dumbshit can’t even read.

1.5 million Jews murdered at AUSCHWITZ alone.

There were other extermination camps, not to mention mass shootings, etc.

And the total scale of it all. The Jews were slightly less than half of the total number of people killed in the Holocaust (but they were the single largest group).

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austin_blue  Oct 20, 2017 • 6:59:28pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

Wait - “black humor” is now supposed to be off limits? Even though it has nothing to do with race? Are we supposed to say “humor that deals with profound or disturbing events in a comic manner” instead?

I agree with trying to avoid giving offense, but come on. The word “black” is not automatically a racial reference.

A consultant to the DC City Council was fired for using the word “niggardly” in a presentation.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2017 • 7:07:10pm

re: #408 jaunte

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Now I wonder what those hard right Republican Catholic Bishops have to say about the bullshit coming out of Jeffress’ mouth?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 21, 2017 • 12:12:27am

re: #1 Kragar

Seriously, fuck anyone who tries to wrap themselves in their former service as a defense from criticism.

Well, at least Kelly has some former service to refer to, unlike his boss…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 21, 2017 • 12:22:06am

re: #49 FormerDirtDart

“I read a transcript” - Lara Trump
“There is no transcript” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders

Taking bets: Who’s the liar?

It is just like when Fundamentalist Biblical literalists are faced with inherent contradictions in the story of the Bible: the Bible reflects a Higher Truth, which is beyond our mere human reasoning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 21, 2017 • 12:22:46am

re: #54 Citizen K

This is what America is, was, and always will be, it seems like.

‘Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.’
— George Carlin

Now imagine that those people control a majority of the electoral vote


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