Video: Why the Right Is So Dishonest About American History

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Happy almost-Thanksgiving. What could be better than football and turkey? Well, there’s genocide and stuff, but we don’t want to ruin your holidays. Nope, we’ll leave that to the disingenuous folks who would like to pretend that there is absolutely nothing wrong with any American History not at all never. Enjoy your pie!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 25, 2017 • 10:56:15pm

Columbus taught the locals to cultivate corn? Holy shit!

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wheat-dogg  Nov 25, 2017 • 11:17:51pm

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Columbus taught the locals to cultivate corn? Holy shit!

Not even sure the people of Hispaniola even had corn to grow. Chris sure didn’t.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 25, 2017 • 11:23:25pm

re: #2 wheat-dogg

Not even sure the people of Hispaniola even had corn to grow. Chris sure didn’t.

They did, though it was less important than on the mainland. Taino people, food and agriculture.

Contrary to mainland practices, corn was not ground into flour and baked into bread, but was cooked and eaten off the cob. Corn bread becomes moldy faster than cassava bread in the high humidity of the Caribbean. Corn was also used to make an alcoholic beverage known as chicha.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 25, 2017 • 11:28:00pm

re: #3 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

They did, though it was less important than on the mainland. Taino people, food and agriculture.

I knew the climate was not suitable in some way. It was storage, not cultivation that was the problem. Thanks!

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teleskiguy  Nov 25, 2017 • 11:30:05pm

This video is amazing.

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I cannot.  Nov 25, 2017 • 11:36:23pm

So this whole broadband thing is supposed to be faster than 0.4 Mb/s, right?

Fuck you, Comcast…

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wheat-dogg  Nov 25, 2017 • 11:36:30pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

This video is amazing.

Once again, the humorists do a better job than the regular media.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 25, 2017 • 11:56:08pm

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Columbus taught the locals to cultivate corn? Holy shit!

If white people knew the first goddamned thing about corn then pellagra wouldn’t have become such a scourge in the Southern United States through the first half of the last century. If they’d used the nixtamalization process invented by South American natives for more than just hominy grits then an entire public health epidemic could’ve been averted. An estimated three million Americans suffered and one hundred thousand died due to that ignorance.

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dell*nix  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:58:56am

re: #8 goddamnedfrank

Had a relative on my maternal grandfathers side of the family die of pellagra out at Post, Texas. Had to look it up to find out what it was.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:22:04am

Welp. LGF is blocked on the hotel wifi (even though I was able to connect for the last 3 days) and they told me “It’s the middle of the night in the US, their server is probably down!” but now I’m using my daughter’s wifi.

We had a MAGNIFICENT Bar Mitzvah celebration last night, and that’s not even including the beautiful celebrations we had in New York, and on Friday night at the Western Wall and on Sabbath morning.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:27:06am

re: #6 I cannot.

So this whole broadband thing is supposed to be faster than 0.4 Mb/s, right?

Fuck you, Comcast…

We’re Comcast users. The death of net neutrality holds no terror for us.

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teleskiguy  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:34:57am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:37:05am
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Dave In Austin  Nov 26, 2017 • 2:06:50am
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 26, 2017 • 2:51:58am
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 26, 2017 • 3:37:46am

Great, so Steve Inskeep is an asshole.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 26, 2017 • 4:34:03am

The hideously tortured arrangements of the All Things Considered theme are reason enough not to donate to NPR.

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jeffreyw  Nov 26, 2017 • 4:54:32am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 26, 2017 • 5:05:07am

The kittens look says “you’re interrupting important work that I’m doing; you’d better shut your bedroom door tonight with me outside for your health”

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wheat-dogg  Nov 26, 2017 • 5:36:22am

Even more Russia-Trump shit:

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meteor  Nov 26, 2017 • 5:39:58am

Southampton vs. Everton, 0-0 early in the first half.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 26, 2017 • 5:53:09am

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

But it was a White woman who was killed in Charlottesville so White Supremacist violence can impact White people. The NYT just doesn’t care.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 26, 2017 • 5:54:35am

re: #23 Patricia Kayden

The Times is deservedly getting raked over the coals for that puff piece.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 26, 2017 • 5:58:29am

re: #24 wheat-dogg

The Times is deservedly getting raked over the coals for that puff piece.

Yeah but will they change and stop writing such vacuous nonsense? That’s the real question. This is not the first puff piece they’ve done on dangerous people. Someone put up a tweet contrasting the way the NYT demonized Michael Brown after he was shot by a cop versus the way they wrote about an actual Neo Nazi. It’s disheartening.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 26, 2017 • 5:59:04am

Here are some more details on that explosion near Ningbo, China. The cause is still unknown, but they have ruled out a gas pipeline explosion.

scmp.com

The blast that leveled a section of Tianjin in 2015 happened because chemicals were being stored improperly, and some of the chemicals were oxidizers. When the firefighters battled the blaze with water, they made the situation worse. I’m wondering if this also happened in this village near Ningbo.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 26, 2017 • 5:59:31am

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wheat-dogg  Nov 26, 2017 • 5:59:55am

re: #25 Patricia Kayden

Yeah but will they change and stop writing such vacuous nonsense? That’s the real question. This is not the first puff piece they’ve done on dangerous people. Someone put up a tweet contrasting the way the NYT demonized Michael Brown after he was shot by a cop versus the way they wrote about an actual Neo Nazi. It’s disheartening.

They won’t. And they’ve got Maggie Haberman normalizing the Orange Yam, too.

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The Major  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:01:52am

re: #6 I cannot.

Yeah - I am supposed to get 100 Mbps from Spectrum Business, and I’m lucky to even get that. Worst of all, I had a NETGEAR Nighthawk AC1200 that supported 24 channels but the Stupid Cisco cable modem appears to be only 16.

I think I’m going to give them jokers a call today about doling a MAC swap and bring my Nighthawk back up…

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wheat-dogg  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:08:54am

re: #29 The Major

Yeah - I am supposed to get 100 Mbps from Spectrum Business, and I’m lucky to even get that. Worst of all, I had a NETGEAR Nighthawk AC1200 that supported 24 channels but the Stupid Cisco cable modem appears to be only 16.

I think I’m going to give them jokers a call today about doling a MAC swap and bring my Nighthawk back up…

I just tested my connection here to see how it is. It’s a DSL connection.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:19:52am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump woke up this morning to reassert his support for the child molester Roy Moore.

Meanwhile, Yair Rosenberg complains about calling the GOP Nazis. I disagree.

Everything the GOP has done in the past several years, and going back 20-30 years or more has been to deprive rights to women and minorities, and now the white supremacists and Nazis have one of their own in the WH furthering their policies ever more explicitly.

The GOP owns the whole mess - all of it, and they’ve enabled actual Nazis in the process (Gorka, etc.) while excusing and enabling Trump who equates Nazis and KKK with the people fighting Nazis and KKK.

The parallels between what’s going on now with the GOP and their enabling white supremacists and Nazis and how the Nazis came to power in Germany are striking in similarity.

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BigPapa  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:38:01am

I like Yair and respect his comment about trivializing Nazis, which is what the right does attacking liberals.

He’s wrong about being concerned with corrosion of political persuasion: Trump voters are vapor locked and not likely to be persuaded.

Nazis first foothold of power they got barely above 30% in the Reichstag. It took 2 more years of politics and wrangling before they had full control. Trump is deconstructing our administration and attacking the 4th Estate relentlessly. Politics of xenophobia are coming back.

We’ve been here before.

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The Major  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:39:40am

re: #30 wheat-dogg

At least, for as slow as your DSL connection is, your Upload and Download speeds are damn near the same, making your DSL connection symmetric - which is nearly impossible here either with Cable of DSL stateside unless you have Verizon FIOS or decide to install an 0C3 link - and that ain’t cheap….

When I was living back in the Twinc Cities, the ILEC CenturyLink kept sending out folks to get them to switch over from Comcast to them. All I had to do is ask them: “Are you Fiber to the Home or Fiber to the gateway ?” Once they said “No”, I said “Come back to me when you have Fiber to The Home - and don’t bother sending over any more door-to-door reps asking me to switch.”

Also, they were bundling DIRECTV in their package as well. Well, since I had a Ceton 4-channel CableCard tuner in my Home Theater PC, that also made my decision much easier as well..

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Decatur Deb  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:43:33am

re: #32 BigPapa

I like Yair and respect his comment about trivializing Nazis, which is what the right does attacking liberals.

He’s wrong about being concerned with corrosion of political persuasion: Trump voters are vapor locked and not likely to be persuaded.

Nazis first foothold of power they got barely above 30% in the Reichstag. It took 2 more years of politics and wrangling before they had full control. Trump is deconstructing our administration and attacking the 4th Estate relentlessly. Politics of xenophobia are coming back.

We’ve been here before.

Call them Nazis or Nazi wannabes, or whatever else you want. Give these motherfuckers the chance and they’ll be filling boxcars.

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The Major  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:44:39am

re: #31 lawhawk

Now only if we had a law on the books similar to what Kenya does to when the see poachers.

Also, what would be nice is to see if any remaining World War II vets are around as ak them their commentary on what they see happening in today’s America….

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I cannot.  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:45:25am

re: #29 The Major

Funny thing was, I did a speedtest, and everything was fine…apparently everything on the internet last night that I WANTED to get to was on a computer running on dialup or something.

But things I wasn’t trying to get to ran fine. Which I didn’t know because…I wasn’t trying to get to them.

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jaunte  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:45:35am

She’s bemoaning the politicization of evangelicals, but not advocating strenuously against electing a pedophile.

“…The upside to this train wreck? It’s a short term. One seat going to a freshman senator who’ll have little influence in those first three years, either way. Three years, and then a do-over.

Here’s where we are: the GOP has come to understand that Evangelicals are trained seals. We show up and clap for any clown you can slap a Republican jersey on. It doesn’t even have to be a godly or wise person. Our votes are a sure thing, and we’ll turn out and vote for problematic or corrupt GOP candidates far more consistently than non-religious conservatives. So come to terms with the fact that the church isn’t influencing diddly squat, not even in our favorite party. To the contrary, the church is the one being influenced — and our credibility before a lost and dying world destroyed — because we have believed the great lie about political engagement.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:48:51am

re: #35 The Major

Unfortunately like my dad they are most of them are dead. They would be horrified that someone like that Trump person is President. That is why I split my ticket and voted for Hillary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:53:58am

not even pretending.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:56:29am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

Insane. There’s gotta be an ethics violation or two in there…

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Decatur Deb  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:56:33am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

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not even pretending.

He’s placing a bet, and not a well-considered one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:56:38am
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BigPapa  Nov 26, 2017 • 6:56:55am

re: #34 Decatur Deb

Call them Nazis or Nazi wannabes, or whatever else you want. Give these motherfuckers the chance and they’ll be filling boxcars.

Yep. We’ve all been reading comments section of the sewers for years, and before that I listened to AM radio. The concepts from the lower levels of ‘the swamp’ are spouting from the mouths of the GOP and Trump. Trump is a result, a symptom.
Sexton threads the problem perfectly, rising above what to call them:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:02:57am

heh

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dangerman  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:06:39am

re: #31 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump woke up this morning to reassert his support for the child molester Roy Moore.

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Everything the GOP has done in the past several years, and going back 20-30 years or more has been to deprive rights to women and minorities, and now the white supremacists and Nazis have one of their own in the WH furthering their policies ever more explicitly.

The GOP owns the whole mess - all of it, and they’ve enabled actual Nazis in the process (Gorka, etc.) while excusing and enabling Trump who equates Nazis and KKK with the people fighting Nazis and KKK.

The parallels between what’s going on now with the GOP and their enabling white supremacists and Nazis and how the Nazis came to power in Germany are striking in similarity.

You support a pig, you’re a pig

Substitute Nazi for pig. Still works.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:07:28am

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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‘Bama fans bitching about clean-up in the comments.

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dangerman  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:10:05am

re: #34 Decatur Deb

Call them Nazis or Nazi wannabes, or whatever else you want. Give these motherfuckers the chance and they’ll be filling boxcars.

That’s why no modifiers are necessary.
Not neo
Not wannabe
Not anything

They are Nazis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:14:47am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:18:38am

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am not surprised. They were trying to make him appear human. He and the uncouth one are in the same category.

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Teukka  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:21:36am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:31:09am

For when you’ve had enough turkey and want to try something else for Christmas dinner.

Facebook Post

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The Major  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:32:53am

re: #37 jaunte

And this snippet from her article is the giveaway:

But somewhere along the way we’ve gotten confused on the hierarchy of things. We had good intentions when in the 80s we founded the Moral Majority to harness the power of Christian voters and increase impact on government, in the hope of shaping our culture. But two distinct problems have emerged: political investment has yielded almost no discernible positive impact on our culture (look at the stats—we’re actually going backward), and the focus on the effort has distracted us from our real calling, which is to deliver the gospel message to the lost so that they might be saved.

Sorry to tell you, but not only have The United States not gone backwards, but that Jesus Christ himself would be leading the charge if the came back looking like Charles Bronson…

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:36:22am

re: #51 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I went to a gourmet food store yesterday and it was jammed. People are sick of turkey and they were buying and eating everything else.

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Nyet  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:44:03am

re: #20 wheat-dogg

If he can’t “read” humor, maybe he should leave analysis to others?

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jaunte  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:58:33am

re: #52 The Major

political investment has yielded almost no discernible positive impact on our culture

This is not the first time conservatives have decided to substitute force in place of persuasion.

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jaunte  Nov 26, 2017 • 7:59:17am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:03:00am

re: #56 jaunte

I wish I could respond to General Hayden directly. If I could I would say it is obvious the first time he insisted on “penning” the press.

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William Lewis  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:10:59am

re: #56 jaunte

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General, then you’ve been ignoring the world for your whole career. The GOFascists have been building to this point under the camouflage of “Conservatism” ever since Ronnie Raygun began the destruction of the nation. Now that it’s goddamn near too late, you finally see the light?

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retired cynic  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:11:06am

re: #30 wheat-dogg

I just tested my connection here to see how it is. It’s a DSL connection.

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Eek. Just tested my satellite: 740Kbps download on fast.com

Well, it’s faster than dialup or nothing at all!

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William Lewis  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:13:47am

I’m running internet on my dataplan right now. I’m getting 14 mbps according to that fast.com which is ok by me.

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jaunte  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:16:44am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:24:05am

re: #30 wheat-dogg

re: #59 retired cynic

re: #60 William Lewis

I have Verizon FiOS. I am uploading and downloading at a much faster rate but I pay for it every month. :(

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retired cynic  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:26:00am

re: #62 PhillyPretzel

I have Verizon FiOS. I am uploading and downloading at a much faster rate but I pay for it every month. :(

Mine costs over $100 a month now, for 50G. And I just upgraded from the peak they used to offer, higher price for slower service and 20G a month. I do love living in the country, I do, I do, I do…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:27:44am

re: #59 retired cynic

re: #60 William Lewis

390Kbps here.

*frownyface*

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:28:07am

re: #63 retired cynic

Home phone, cell phone and internet comes to $175 a month. Not too bad and I have very fast internet.

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retired cynic  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:28:17am

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

390Kbps here.

*frownyface*

I feel your pain.

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retired cynic  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:29:19am

re: #65 PhillyPretzel

Home phone, cell phone and internet comes to $ 175. Not too bad and I have very fast internet.

Mine is just internet. Cancelled the tv and the home phone. Cell phone another $100 a month.

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Jay C  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:30:21am

re: #30 wheat-dogg

I just tested my connection here to see how it is. It’s a DSL connection.

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So is mine, and I just tested at 2.3 or 2.5 Mbps depending on the site.
Still good enough for LGF, so no complaints……

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:30:41am

re: #67 retired cynic

FiOS has TV services but I will stick with my antenna in the window. I love PBS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:30:49am

re: #66 retired cynic

I feel your pain.

at least it’s connecting today…never can tell when and how long it will be out.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:31:45am

re: #37 jaunte

You can’t engage in an argument with brainwashed people who believe that they will get pie in the sky when they die as long as they kiss Corporate ass on Earth and vote Republican.

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William Lewis  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:32:27am

re: #62 PhillyPretzel

I have Verizon FiOS. I am uploading and downloading at a much faster rate but I pay for it every month. :(

That data & cell plan is $195 a month. :(

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:35:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:37:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:39:47am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:41:29am

re: #52 The Major

And this snippet from her article is the giveaway:

Sorry to tell you, but not only have The United States not gone backwards, but that Jesus Christ himself would be leading the charge if the came back looking like Charles Bronson…

No.

The truth is if JC and his Sonshine Band paid a visit to the US, Fox News would denounce them as Communists, Rush would attack JC on the radio for healing people who didn’t deserve it, Franky Graham would lead the lynch mob, Pat Robertson would put the cross of thorns on his head, and a bunch of pulpit pimps would pound the nails in and raise the cross as the Christians sang Gawd Bless America…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:46:00am

re: #65 PhillyPretzel

Home phone, cell phone and internet comes to $175 a month. Not too bad and I have very fast internet.

I pay $89 a month to Spectrum just for high speed internet. Use an Apple TV to stream.

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jaunte  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:47:23am

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hannah Arendt on the “banality of evil” embodied by Eichmann:

“…What he said was always the same, expressed in the same words. The longer one listened to him, the more obvious it became that his inability to speak was closely connected with an inability to think, namely, to think from the standpoint of somebody else. No communication was possible with him, not because he lied but because he was surrounded by the most reliable of all safeguards against the words and the presence of others, and hence against reality as such.”

Chilling similarities to the current tyrant-in-waiting.

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William Lewis  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:55:21am

re: #76 Joe Bacon 🌹

No.

The truth is if JC and his Sonshine Band paid a visit to the US, Fox News would denounce them as Communists, Rush would attack JC on the radio for healing people who didn’t deserve it, Franky Graham would lead the lynch mob, Pat Robertson would put the cross of thorns on his head, and a bunch of pulpit pimps would pound the nails in and raise the cross as the Christians sang Gawd Bless America…

“The Grand Inquisitor” by Dostoevsky already gave a great example of this story.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 26, 2017 • 8:56:21am

re: #78 jaunte

I can’t say I’m surprised; if you look at the biographies of quite a few of the Nazis (not all of them, mind you) they were certainly living in a reality they’d created for themselves. It was bizarre and outlandish, filled with pseudo-science, Romanticist claptrap and all manner of outrageous woowoo.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:04:12am

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

I can’t say I’m surprised; if you look at the biographies of quite a few of the Nazis (not all of them, mind you) they were certainly living in a reality they’d created for themselves. It was bizarre and outlandish, filled with pseudo-science, Romanticist claptrap and all manner of outrageous woowoo.

Yes, just like the propaganda that is coming from thousands of pulpits and altars today to keep the masses brainwashed.

Marx was wrong about a lot of things but he sure hit the bulls-eye when he said that religion is the opiate of the masses!

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jaunte  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:11:11am
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lizardofid  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:13:50am

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

I can’t say I’m surprised; if you look at the biographies of quite a few of the Nazis (not all of them, mind you) they were certainly living in a reality they’d created for themselves. It was bizarre and outlandish, filled with pseudo-science, Romanticist claptrap and all manner of outrageous woowoo.

Yep, filled with mysticism, like the Thule Society.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:19:03am
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Belafon  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:20:10am

After clicking post, I thought about replacing “Do not tolerate” with “Fuck.”

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:21:29am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:22:41am

re: #86 Belafon

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Reminder—Indiana was one of the states where the KKK was in control during the 20s and 30s.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:22:50am

re: #83 lizardofid

Yep, filled with mysticism, like the Thule Society.

And it still hasn’t gone away; there’s the Tempelhofgeschellschaft and its more recent iterations.

The younger Tempelhofgesellschaft was founded in Vienna in the early 1990s by Norbert Jurgen-Ratthofer and Ralft Ettl to teach a dualist form of Christian religion called Marcionism and a form of gnosticism. This one was a part of the main THG/Homburg. The group identifies an “evil creator of this world,” the Demiurge with Jehovah, the God of Judaism, and holds that Jesus Christ was an Aryan, not Jewish. They distribute pamphlets claiming that the Aryan race originally came to Atlantis from the star Aldebaran (this information is supposedly based on “ancient Sumerian manuscripts”). They maintain that the Aryans from Aldebaran derive their power from the vril energy of the Black Sun. They teach that since the Aryan race is of extraterrestrial origin it has a divine mission to dominate all the other races. It is believed by adherents of this religion that an enormous space fleet is on its way to Earth from Aldebaran which, when it arrives, will join forces with the Nazi Flying Saucers from Antarctica to establish the Western Imperium. Its major publication is called Das Vril-Projekt (1992).

After the THG had been dissolved, Ralf Ettl founded the Freundeskreis (circle of friends) Causa Nostra. It remains active and maintains relations to far-right publishers like the Swiss Unitall-Verlag.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:23:07am
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Romantic Heretic  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:24:47am

re: #37 jaunte

These days many ‘Evangelicals’ are not evangelists for Christ. They are evangelists for America.

Because to them America is no longer a nation. To them America is now a faith.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:26:18am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

And if anyone thinks that shit can’t possibly be real, that no rational human being could believe something that outlandish, I got some bad news for you…..I’m looking at the Freundeskreis Causa Nostra’s web forum right now.

*headdesk*

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MsJ  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:27:53am

re: #76 Joe Bacon 🌹

The truth is if JC and his Sonshine Band paid a visit to the US, Fox News would denounce them as Communists, Rush would attack JC on the radio for healing people who didn’t deserve it, Franky Graham would lead the lynch mob, Pat Robertson would put the cross of thorns on his head, and a bunch of pulpit pimps would pound the nails in and raise the cross as the Christians sang Gawd Bless America…

Spot. F’ing. On.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:29:43am

re: #49 PhillyPretzel

I am not surprised. They were trying to make him appear human. He and the uncouth one are in the same category.

Oh, both Herr Shicklegruber and the yam are human.

Just not very good ones.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:37:08am

The Crack video rocked.

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Nyet  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:40:11am

re: #81 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes, just like the propaganda that is coming from thousands of pulpits and altars today to keep the masses brainwashed.

Marx was wrong about a lot of things but he sure hit the bulls-eye when he said that religion is the opiate of the masses!

He basically meant it is a pain-killer. A pretty neutral description.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:42:32am

Conyers stepping down as Ranking Member of the Judiciary Committee

“After careful consideration and in light of the attention drawn by recent allegations made against me, I have notified the Democratic Leader of my request to step aside as Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Committee during the investigation of these matters,” Conyers said in a statement Sunday afternoon.

cnn.com

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jaunte  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:47:12am

“I can tell you I think if I came up with that they’d say, ‘Oh, it’s a conspiracy theory, it’s ridiculous,’” Trump told a Miami-based CBS affiliate when asked about the idea that Russians were trying to help him get elected. “I mean I have nothing to do with Russia. I don’t have any jobs in Russia. I’m all over the world but we’re not involved in Russia.”
thinkprogress.org

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:48:19am

re: #96 Joe Bacon 🌹

Pelosi and Democratic leadership considered that they needed to tread lightly about a ranking member and key member of the CBC. It was a mistake to do so - the right thing is right even if it means taking hits.

Sex abuse/harassment is wrong, no matter who does it.

The GOP continues backing Trump, who admits to being a sex predator on the Access Hollywood tape (but now claims that the tape was “distorted”). Trump backs GOPer Moore, who allegedly raped a 14 year old girl and was a sex predator who preyed on high school girls.

This is the GOP - and that’s what the Democrats have to remind everyone about.

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jaunte  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:48:23am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:48:45am

re: #76 Joe Bacon 🌹

No.

The truth is if JC and his Sonshine Band paid a visit to the US, Fox News would denounce them as Communists, Rush would attack JC on the radio for healing people who didn’t deserve it, Franky Graham would lead the lynch mob, Pat Robertson would put the cross of thorns on his head, and a bunch of pulpit pimps would pound the nails in and raise the cross as the Christians sang Gawd Bless America…

Wouldn’t he be deported as a Middle Eastern terrorist before any of that?

//

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:50:27am

Apparently Trump is pissed that Ivanka’s words are being used against Trump’s preferred candidate.

Fuck’em. Fuck’em all. The GOP deserves all the scorn they are getting (and it’s still not enough).

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:51:08am

re: #100 Eclectic Cyborg

Wouldn’t he be deported as a Middle Eastern terrorist before any of that?

//

No he wouldn’t be deported. Under Trump’s rules, he would not have been admitted in the first place

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dangerman  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:51:50am

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like the @nytimes has discovered Nazis can own cats & make muffins. I bet some of the Nazis who slaughtered Jews, Gypsies & the disabled also owned cats & baked muffins. This is a really silly article from a once serious newspaper.

FTFY

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:52:12am

re: #101 lawhawk

“Daddy, I can only tolerate one pedophile in my lifetime.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:52:18am

re: #98 lawhawk

That’s an uphill battle.

If every Dem accused of Sexual harrassment and abuse steps down and ever Republican accused of same does NOT, you have a potentially stacked deck for the GOP.

And that’s exactly what they are counting on:

Dems to do the right thing because of their conscience, Republicans to not to do the right thing because of a lack of conscience.

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dangerman  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:55:21am

re: #84 Joe Bacon 🌹

Roy Moore is what happens when you let Jesus take the wheel and he crashes into a manure truck.

roy moore is what happens when you wrench the wheel from jesus thinking you’re both a better driver and know where he was headed

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jaunte  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:58:12am

re: #104 Belafon

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 26, 2017 • 9:58:50am

re: #86 Belafon

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Lynching of Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith
A third victim, 16 year old James Cameron, survived because of the intervention of a woman in the crowd. Her identity remains unknown to this day. Mr. Cameron later became a civil rights activist. At his death in 2006, he was the only known survivor of a lynching attempt.

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2017 • 10:07:44am

re: #107 jaunte

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Not that this is a fix for all of them, but there are a number of those that would not have happened had these guys accepted that they are gay. It’s not the gay that made them pedophiles. It’s the fact that they fought against accepting it that made them go after those who couldn’t defend themselves or report it.

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mmmirele  Nov 26, 2017 • 10:21:20am

re: #52 The Major

Her “going backward” really means that LGBT people are accepted in society in ways undreamed of in 1987 (seriously, when I was in law school, we never thought that “sodomy” would be legalized by the Supreme Court in 2003, nor that we’d have same-sex marriage in 2015). And, of course, women can continue to make the choice to have an abortion.

In her world, LGBT people would be in the closet and women would be getting dangerous backroom abortions. That’s all she cares about.

ETA: I had to chew out a pastor I like on Twitter last night because he was talking about how abortion was forbidden in the Didache. I pointed out the writer(s) of the Didache had no idea of the human reproductive cycle (“biology” then posited women contributed nothing to the pregnancy but a good attitude and the human ova wasn’t discovered until 1928 —not a typo); women were not involved in the writing of scripture for the most part, and even though the Didache came out in 100 AD or thereabouts, women continued and continue to get abortions. I was surprised I actually got some likes on this, because challenging someone on abortion is pretty fraught on Twitter.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 26, 2017 • 10:22:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 10:39:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 10:43:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 10:59:29am
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jaunte  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:00:53am
“If President Trump knew the facts, he would never have sent that tweet.”

Everyone needs to stop making this mistake.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:01:22am

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:01:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:04:53am
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sagehen  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:05:51am

re: #110 mmmirele

ETA: I had to chew out a pastor I like on Twitter last night because he was talking about how abortion was forbidden in the Didache. I pointed out the writer(s) of the Didache had no idea of the human reproductive cycle (“biology” then posited women contributed nothing to the pregnancy but a good attitude and the human ova wasn’t discovered until 1928 —not a typo); women were not involved in the writing of scripture for the most part, and even though the Didache came out in 100 AD or thereabouts, women continued and continue to get abortions. I was surprised I actually got some likes on this, because challenging someone on abortion is pretty fraught on Twitter.

If you converse with this pastor again, remind him:

Exodus 21:22 — if you assault a pregnant woman in such a way as to cause a miscarriage, but the woman is otherwise unharmed, the punishment is financial compensation. A much lesser penalty than for murder; because the people who codified these laws did not consider a fetus to be a person.

Numbers 5:11 — if the husband of a pregnant woman believes it’s not his, there’s a potion and ritual for God to decide. If she is indeed a cheater, she will miscarry. If the pregnancy continues, he must accept that it was a false accusation.

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jeffreyw  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:14:46am

Imgur

Imgur


Sous vide flat iron steak, provolone cheese sauce, homemade buns.

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retired cynic  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:16:14am

re: #120 jeffreyw

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Sous vide flat iron steak, provolone cheese sauce, homemade buns.

Unkind! I just had my 1/2 c cottage cheese, 5 cherry tomatoes, and some leftover steamed zucchini and water. Sigh….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:17:51am

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like the @nytimes has discovered Nazis can own cats & make muffins. I bet some of the Nazis who slaughtered Jews, Gypsies & the disabled also owned cats & baked muffins. This is a really silly article from a serious newspaper.

True cultural illiterates, obviously unaware of Hannah Arendt and her essay on the banality of evil

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VegasGolfer  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:18:52am

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

Im sure she will be speaking out about trump with the same voracity she is speaking out about Conyers.
Not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:20:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:29:05am

How did we get to the point that calling out Nazis for being Nazis is seen as “political correctness run amok” and people who will not tolerate such ideology as “snowflakes”?

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jaunte  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:29:57am
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jaunte  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:31:48am

The Trump crime family is in business with war criminals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:34:30am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:37:52am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:41:29am

re: #116 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Christiane Amanpour is in a delicate position. She know that Trump lies about everything but if she actually said that, it might cause real harm to CNN. That is why she couches her rebuke carefully; Trump adheres to the Karl Rove philosophy — That we create our own reality — and that anything else doesn’t matter. Of course, Karl posed that in terms of our being an empire, but Trump is fast dismantling that and replacing it with the Trump mini empire in thrall to Putin.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:44:38am

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump philosohy: Caveat emptor. Business and the powerful can lie to you and you have no recourse, unless of course you are also wealthy and powerful.

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:50:58am

re: #131 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump philosohy: Caveat emptor. Business and the powerful can lie to you and you have no recourse, unless of course you are also wealthy and powerful.

Trump’s only philosophy is to seek praise and the pleasure of being cruel to people. What you describe is the core value of libertarian philosophy, the very essence of Randian belief. It is the animating philosophy of the Republican party.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:52:35am
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dangerman  Nov 26, 2017 • 11:54:43am

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

If President Trump knew the facts, he would never have sent that tweet. Here is my (late) camerawoman Margaret Moth, who took a bullet in the face covering the facts and truth in Bosnia.

sorry - he said this knowing the facts full well

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:04:40pm

re: #134 dangerman

sorry - he said this knowing the facts full well

if he didn’t see it on Fox or in a movie, it didn’t happen…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:18:40pm

re: #134 dangerman

sorry - he said this knowing the facts full well

And Tweetler got off on that!

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:21:53pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:22:52pm

What is the sound of two rats fucking?

Susan Sarandon: ‘I thought Hillary was very dangerous. If she’d won, we’d be at war’

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:23:54pm

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:24:25pm

And now the Screw York Times tries to justify that offensive article…

mobile.nytimes.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:25:11pm

re: #134 dangerman

sorry - he said this knowing the facts full well

I recently watched an interview where the guest talked about staving off Alzheimer’s. One critical item was to get sufficient sleep because that apparently protects against development of the amyloid plaques in the brain. Isn’t Trump notorious for getting insufficient sleep? And with a family history of Alzheimer’s, it is certainly possible he doesn’t really retain any recent facts, even if he is reminded of them periodically.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:28:00pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:29:37pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:31:20pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:31:28pm

Dear Susan Sarandon.

You suck. You turned a decent movie career into making yourself known as one true Hollywood Dumbass. And for that you will always be remembered. A politically dangerous dumbass.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:32:07pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:32:55pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart

What sort of well paying job can anybody expect to get with only a high school diploma? Coal mining?

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:36:30pm

re: #146 FormerDirtDart

“Socialist.”

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:39:15pm

Every good parent:

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:40:11pm

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What sort of well paying job can anybody expect to get with only a high school diploma? Coal mining?

Electricians, plumbers and others in certain trades can do quite well without a 4 year college degree. The pirates of Silicon Valley tended to be college dropouts who created a new industry. And more recently, even Mark Zuckerberg dropped out his sophomore year.

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mmmirele  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:40:51pm

re: #119 sagehen

If he brings up abortion again, I’ll remind him. Seriously, I do generally like what he has to say. If anything, he’s helping me cling to the vestiges of what remains of my faith in Jesus. But he takes a “seamless garment” approach to life issues, and I’m just reminding him that it’s not as simple as he makes it out to be.

Militant pro-lifers get the full double-barrel of my vitriol if/when they cross my path, because I do not put up with that shit, not for a moment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:42:27pm

re: #150 Hecuba’s daughter

Electricians, plumbers and others in certain trades can do quite well without a 4 year college degree. The pirates of Silicon Valley tended to be college dropouts who created a new industry. And more recently, even Mark Zuckerberg dropped out his sophomore year.

I did not say that they need to complete four-year college degree, but even electricians, mechanics and plumbers need some sort of training or further education.

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mmmirele  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:47:44pm

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I did not say that they need to complete four-year college degree, but even electricians, mechanics and plumbers need some sort of training or further education.

And in my part of the country, you get that training by signing up for a program at the Maricopa Community College system. Which is a community college, and hella cheaper than a proprietary school.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:49:22pm

re: #95 Nyet

He basically meant it is a pain-killer. A pretty neutral description.

However it would also be correct in that it can be addictive, an addiction which leads its victims to do anything in order to get their next hit.

Hmmm. I wonder if it’s a coincidence that the places that have the most people addicted to religion are also those with the most people addicted to actual opiates?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:49:45pm

re: #151 mmmirele

If he brings up abortion again, I’ll remind him. Seriously, I do generally like what he has to say. If anything, he’s helping me cling to the vestiges of what remains of my faith in Jesus. But he takes a “seamless garment” approach to life issues, and I’m just reminding him that it’s not as simple as he makes it out to be.

Militant pro-lifers get the full double-barrel of my vitriol if/when they cross my path, because I do not put up with that shit, not for a moment.

Still have such “warm” memories of taking a coworker to the clinic because her boyfriend beat her because she got pregnant. We had to walk through the gauntlet of ignorant assholes yelling at us calling her a slut and whore.

I will never forgive the priest who spat on my face. The same asshole who was exposed as a child molester…

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Skip Intro  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:49:54pm

re: #101 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Apparently Trump is pissed that Ivanka’s words are being used against Trump’s preferred candidate.

Fuck’em. Fuck’em all. The GOP deserves all the scorn they are getting (and it’s still not enough).

How do we know that? Who’s the source?

I think it’s just more kayfabe from the Trumps.

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:51:15pm

re: #156 Skip Intro

How do we know that? Who’s the source?

I think it’s just more kayfabe from the Trumps.

Why? Because Trump’s been tolerant of dissent in the past?

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Targetpractice  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:51:30pm

re: #137 FormerDirtDart

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We’d be at war with who, Susan? Trump’s been trying to pick fights since before he took office, he’s pissed in everybody’s cereal bowl but Vlad’s, and he’s effectively said he’s open to nuking North Korea. HOW THE FUCK COULD HILLARY HAVE DONE WORSE?!

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Skip Intro  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:53:22pm

re: #157 Belafon

Why? Because Trump’s been tolerant of dissent in the past?

Maybe it’s not dissent. Maybe it’s just an act between the two of them. It wouldn’t be the first time.

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:53:23pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

Eastasia.

Edit: I joke, but she’s basically doing what Trump’s most ardent supporters are doing, making up shit so she can avoid admitting she was wrong.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:54:13pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

We’d be at war with who, Susan? Trump’s been trying to pick fights since before he took office, he’s pissed in everybody’s cereal bowl but Vlad’s, and he’s effectively said he’s open to nuking North Korea. HOW THE FUCK COULD HILLARY HAVE DONE WORSE?!

Hillary wouldn’t have taken away health care for 9 million kids for starters. And she wouldn’t have put Gorsuch on the court!

But Suzy doesn’t care…

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mmmirele  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:55:47pm

re: #155 Joe Bacon 🌹

Still have such “warm” memories of taking a coworker to the clinic because her boyfriend beat her because she got pregnant. We had to walk through the gauntlet of ignorant assholes yelling at us calling her a slut and whore.

I will never forgive the priest who spat on my face. The same asshole who was exposed as a child molester…

Like I said, not as simple as some people would like to think it is. I remind anti-abortion proponents that we know what happens when women can’t get a legal and safe abortion. We resort to illegal and unsafe abortions. And we know this because we can see it happening in countries like Brazil and El Salvador, where legal abortion is very, very limited and hospital wards are full of women recovering from illegal abortions (Brazil) or women are being sent to prison when their miscarriage is considered an abortion (El Salvador).

What would be better would be to make birth control methods easily available, but anti-abortion proponents think this just encourages premarital sex, or that the Pill is some sort of evil abortifacient, or condoms aren’t safe. We know that making birth control methods available to all women, regardless of age, brings down the birth rate and the abortion rate, but gee, it also makes sluts, so Colorado discontinued its program. Fuck that noise.

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jeffreyw  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:56:08pm

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I served a 5 year apprenticeship with night and weekend classes, plus on the job training at reduced wages through a program run by a local union. I live in a blue state that is union friendly but have watched them whittle away at the benefits labor has won through hard battles and bloodshed. I’m retired with pensions and social security and medicare but I’m lucky to be out with all that intact. So far, anyway.

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Skip Intro  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:56:56pm

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What sort of well paying job can anybody expect to get with only a high school diploma? Coal mining?

Senior position in the trump white house.

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Targetpractice  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:57:01pm

re: #140 Joe Bacon 🌹

And now the Screw York Times tries to justify that offensive article…

mobile.nytimes.com

You know, I get the motivation behind the article, but they so badly missed the mark that they ended up blowing off their own foot instead.

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Targetpractice  Nov 26, 2017 • 12:59:18pm

re: #160 Belafon

Eastasia.

Edit: I joke, but she’s basically doing what Trump’s most ardent supporters are doing, making up shit so she can avoid admitting she was wrong.

Ayep, she makes no bones about how she didn’t feel NY was in danger of flipping and so voted for Stein. She’s the living embodiment of the limousine liberal.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:02:02pm

re: #146 FormerDirtDart

Because shopping is a holy ritual that worships America and all it stands for.

To not shop, especially on religious holidays like Black Friday, is to endanger the country’s holiness.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:02:13pm

re: #159 Skip Intro

Maybe it’s not dissent. Maybe it’s just an act between the two of them. It wouldn’t be the first time.

Except this time it’s having real consequences. That’s why I think it’s real, it fits the pattern. Just like when he fired Tom Price, he didn’t give a shit about all the private flights he was only pissed that it looked bad and became a thing.

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Targetpractice  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:02:31pm

re: #161 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hillary wouldn’t have taken away health care for 9 million kids for starters. And she wouldn’t have put Gorsuch on the court!

But Suzy doesn’t care…

Suzy’s one of those “If I can’t have it, I’ll burn it down” Berners who would tell me with a straight face that electing Trump would help bring about “the revolution” because he’d so thoroughly fuck the country that people would run screaming into the arms of a socialist candidate.

You know, just like how Dubya getting elected meant we elected a far-left socialist come 2004…oh wait…

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mmmirele  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:07:48pm

OK, I got a bite. If he responds again, he’s getting both barrels. Don’t tell me conception is this bright line moment of life when half of all conceptions fail.

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:12:38pm

re: #167 Romantic Heretic

Because shopping is a holy ritual that worships America and all it stands for.

To not shop, especially on religious holidays like Black Friday, is to endanger the country’s holiness.

Someone has a “Jesus is the reason for the season” sign up in my neighborhood. I want a sign that replaces Jesus with Shopping.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:12:51pm

re: #170 mmmirele

OK, I got a bite. If he responds again, he’s getting both barrels. Don’t tell me conception is this bright line moment of life when half of all conceptions fail.

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If life begins at conception, than god is the world’s greatest abortionist.

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calochortus  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:16:08pm

re: #170 mmmirele

OK, I got a bite. If he responds again, he’s getting both barrels. Don’t tell me conception is this bright line moment of life when half of all conceptions fail.

[Embedded content]

Last time I looked “life” predates any conception. I recall Mr. C. and myself both being alive when our kids were conceived. He’s talking about a novel combination of genetic material occurring. Doesn’t sound quite as definitive, but there it is.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:21:46pm
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Jay C  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:24:33pm

re: #165 Targetpractice

re: #140 Joe Bacon 🌹

And now the Screw York Times tries to justify that offensive article…

mobile.nytimes.com

Really - “we’re sorry if we offended anybody”? Pretty weak sauce: I saw most of the comments* are fairly articulate in trying to point out just what it was that readers found “offensive” - but (even allowing for the fact that the “apology” pre-dates the comments), the Times seems/seemed determined to mischaracterize the criticism. Fortunately, most of the commenters aren’t buying it…

*including one of mine: please feel free to upding

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Interesting Times  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:25:16pm

re: #174 Ace Rothstein

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:26:53pm

good fucking grief…

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Interesting Times  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:28:13pm

re: #176 Interesting Times

Oh, and paging ObserverArt…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:29:15pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:32:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:34:10pm

re: #181 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

“Notice that they do not so much fly as… plummet. “

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:36:31pm
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dangerman  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:38:24pm

re: #170 mmmirele

OK, I got a bite. If he responds again, he’s getting both barrels. Don’t tell me conception is this bright line moment of life when half of all conceptions fail.

[Embedded content]

“Life begins at conception” is rhetoric and not really relevant

In the u.s. and ianal the question is more like when would a constitutionally recognized and protected life begin

And even whenever those limited rights enure they must still be balanced and considered agsinst the rights of the mother

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Stanley Sea  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:40:20pm

Go West Palm Beach!

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:51:10pm

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:57:07pm

re: #186 Ace Rothstein

are you implying that Trump is a pacifist?

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:58:01pm

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

are you implying that Trump is a pacifist?

Nyet.

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Targetpractice  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:58:11pm

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

are you implying that Trump is a pacifist?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 1:59:34pm

re: #181 FormerDirtDart

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 26, 2017 • 2:06:35pm

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 26, 2017 • 2:14:41pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 26, 2017 • 2:15:49pm

from balloon-juice.com Steele Dossier Claims Updated

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Stanley Sea  Nov 26, 2017 • 2:16:36pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 26, 2017 • 2:20:25pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 26, 2017 • 2:20:37pm

Interactive Timeline: Everything We Know About Russia and President Trump
Explore our updated, comprehensive Trump-Russia Timeline — or select one of the central players in the Trump-Russia saga to see what we know about them.
billmoyers.com

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 26, 2017 • 2:22:11pm
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BigPapa  Nov 26, 2017 • 2:31:20pm

re: #196 gocart mozart

Holy moly that’s a lot of info. May take a while to go through it.

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ObserverArt  Nov 26, 2017 • 2:36:45pm

re: #196 gocart mozart

Interactive Timeline: Everything We Know About Russia and President Trump
Explore our updated, comprehensive Trump-Russia Timeline — or select one of the central players in the Trump-Russia saga to see what we know about them.
billmoyers.com

Nice link. Got that one bookmarked to go back to time and again.


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