Drip, Drip, Drip: Now We Learn That Trump Launched a Scheme to Discredit Potential FBI Witnesses Last June

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And here’s your Friday bombshell, courtesy of Foreign Policy this time: Trump Launched Campaign to Discredit Potential FBI Witnesses.

President Donald Trump pressed senior aides last June to devise and carry out a campaign to discredit senior FBI officials after learning that those specific employees were likely to be witnesses against him as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, according to two people directly familiar with the matter.

In testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee on June 8, recently fired FBI Director James Comey disclosed that he spoke contemporaneously with other senior bureau officials about potentially improper efforts by the president to curtail the FBI’s investigation of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

Mueller is investigating whether Trump’s efforts constituted obstruction of justice. Not long after Comey’s Senate testimony, Trump hired John Dowd, a veteran criminal defense attorney, to represent him in matters related to Mueller’s investigation. Dowd warned Trump that the potential corroborative testimony of the senior FBI officials in Comey’s account would likely play a central role in the special counsel’s final conclusion, according to people familiar with the matter. In discussions with at least two senior White House officials, Trump repeated what Dowd had told him to emphasize why he and his supporters had to “fight back harder,” in the words of one of these officials.

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It is not improper, but in fact is a duty, for an attorney to explain to a client how they are at risk, the source said. What may have been improper, however, were actions Trump took upon learning that information.

Since Dowd gave him that information, Trump — as well as his aides, surrogates, and some Republican members of Congress — has engaged in an unprecedented campaign to discredit specific senior bureau officials and the FBI as an institution.

Trump’s lawyer is, naturally, denying this report. But with this gang of scoundrels, that only tends to make the report more credible.

In a brief conversation Friday afternoon, Dowd denied the accounts of administration officials contained in this story as “flat-out wrong,” but he also refused to discuss what details were incorrect. “My advice to the president is confidential,” he told Foreign Policy.

“You don’t know me,” Dowd added. “You don’t [know] how I lawyer, and you don’t know what I communicated to the president and what I did not.”

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532 comments

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The Major  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:16:56pm

Trump isn’t that smart - the question is: who laid the seeds for this?

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EPR-radar  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:19:16pm

re: #1 The Major

Trump isn’t that smart - the question is: who laid the seeds for this?

Bannon is the most obvious suspect.

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Sea Mexican!  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:22:28pm

re: #2 EPR-radar

Bannon is the most obvious suspect.

Starting with Bannon, and the queue will go around the White House.

Thrice.

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teleskiguy  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:22:54pm

I went skiing today.

Instagram

My run for late legend Warren Miller. Skiing is the best. @sunlightmountainresort

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:22:55pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:26:11pm

At this point, the only thing that wingnuts can offer in “defense” anymore is “IT NEVER HAPPENED! YOU CAN’T PROVE IT DID!!!!”

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:27:46pm

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EPR-radar  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:29:15pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

At this point, the only thing that wingnuts can offer in “defense” anymore is “IT NEVER HAPPENED! YOU CAN’T PROVE IT DID!!!!”

I think the wingnut defense will be the usual quantum superposition of: 1) It didn’t happen and 2) If it did happen, there’s nothing wrong with it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:30:04pm

re: #8 EPR-radar

I think the wingnut defense will be the usual quantum superposition of: 1) It didn’t happen and 2) If it did happen, there’s nothing wrong with it.

Or 3) It was necessary because Hitlery.

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Sea Mexican!  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:30:26pm

I’ve been mulling over the discussion over Pence, about his likelihood of turning evidence to protect himself …

What if we have it wrong? What if Melania is the one supplying information to the FBI and Mueller?

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Targetpractice  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:30:51pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Or 3) It was necessary because Hitlery.

4. “Hillary colluded with the Russians, why is she not being charged?!”

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Citizen K  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:31:00pm

New thread snuck up on me, but copying from the previous one:

Good news from NC, which will hopefully pull it back a little bit from the title of ‘failed democracy’ that it currently has earned:

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Kragar  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:31:33pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:32:43pm

Soon to be open to uranium mines under this administration of ghouls.

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Cheechako  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:33:28pm

re: #13 Kragar

ICE needs to be melted down and dumped into the sewer.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:34:27pm

Re: the Steve Wynn allegations. Someone who is very close to me works at the Wynn casino. I asked this person if they ever heard any rumors of SW assaulting anyone. This person laughed and said nobody talks about that. Which means to me that SW has all the power and leverage over his employees, and this is how they think they can get away with those horrible actions. The statement by the casino saying nobody has come forward with alligations is total bs. They know nobody will come forward for fear of being crushed by wynn (his payout to a manicurist notwithstanding)

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Citizen K  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:35:32pm

re: #13 Kragar

ICE have gone out of their way to really earn that ‘new Gestapo’ epithet.

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Targetpractice  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:36:59pm

re: #13 Kragar

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The wingnuts worry about a “secret society” within the FBI that is working to undermine American democracy.

Meanwhile, the White House is having ICE run through the first two acts of the Holocaust.

But, you know, “both sides.”///////

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Unabogie  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:40:22pm

I wish we lived in a country where a “Detrumpification” could take place after we remove this cabal. If you are an ICE agent who took advantage of this situation to get your inner Nazi on, you should be fired and blacklisted. Personally, I don’t see how we heal from this.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:40:39pm
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VegasGolfer  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:45:36pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:46:32pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:47:13pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:49:04pm

Bruce Eric Kaplan

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TedStriker  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:55:15pm

re: #21 VegasGolfer

Who knew that Tom Arnold would grow out of supposedly being an irredeemable asshole and get this involved in social issues, while ex-wife Roseanne would turn into an irredeemable asshole and basically mock and stomp on the social issues she championed in her former show?

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teleskiguy  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:57:54pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:58:06pm

Charles, I’ve been meaning to compliment you on your Photoshopping of the graphics. Or is it Gimp? Either way, well done ol’ bean.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 26, 2018 • 5:59:09pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

Two hideous creatures. They deserve each other.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:00:19pm

re: #27 De Kolta Chair

Charles, I’ve been meaning to compliment you on your Photoshopping filter choices. Or is it Gimp? Either way, well done ol’ bean.

I think it’s Prizma.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:00:33pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

They obviously share the same dentist with the Joker.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:04:30pm

Tom Toro

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Kragar  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:05:02pm
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Dizzy  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:05:45pm

It’s always been my thought and hope that Trump would be indicted and spend the rest of his miserable life in prison. I am not a lawyer and am mostly ignorant of U.S. jurisprudence, but this Obama appointee at Justice tells us that Mueller cannot indict Trump, it’s all about impeachment.

At a minimum impeachment is required, but I’m a bit miffed that an indictment of Trump won’t be coming from Mueller. Is there some other legislative body that can throw that miserable son of a bitch in prison?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:07:33pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:11:50pm

re: #29 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I think it’s Prizma.

Now that I’ve ventured into the android ‘verse, thanks to a Xmas gift of a Kindle Fire, I’ll have to check that out.

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allegro  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:16:20pm

So if Trump can’t be indicted but only impeached… what about after he leaves office? If Mueller uncovers years of money laundering, etc. is he not still in jeopardy?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:17:58pm

Apropos of nothing, I ran across this cool image this morning and promptly slapped that puppy on a t-shirt. Hopefully I’ll get a chance to show it off before Trump’s climate change denying hell freezes over and makes t-shirts obsolete.

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scottslemmons  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:18:40pm

re: #36 allegro

So if Trump can’t be indicted but only impeached… what about after he leaves office? If Mueller uncovers years of money laundering, etc. is he not still in jeopardy?

Once he’s not in the White House, he can be charged like anyone else.

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Dizzy  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:20:09pm

re: #36 allegro

re: #38 scottslemmons

Once he’s not in the White House, he can be charged like anyone else.

Maybe NY state can follow up with indictments for non-federal crimes.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:20:46pm

re: #39 Dizzy

Maybe NY state can follow up with indictments for non-federal crimes.

Already under investigation by the NY AG, I think.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:21:41pm
You mean ‘take care of’?
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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:22:01pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

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Uh huh…

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Dizzy  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:22:08pm

re: #40 Ace Rothstein

The thought of the orange bastard getting away without jail time is an affront to my sense of decency.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:22:49pm

re: #43 Dizzy

The thought of the orange bastard getting away without jail time is an affront to my sense of decency.

Hopefully he’s impeached, then indicted.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:25:07pm

Jesus fucking bankrupt casinos on a stick

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:27:43pm

re: #45 De Kolta Chair

What TV”s Frank says

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She’s posed nude, so there’s that. She’s decorated the White House like a scene from Nightmare Before Christmas without meaning to. So, I guess that’s different as well.

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makeitstop  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:27:45pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:28:02pm

re: #40 Ace Rothstein

Already under investigation by the NY AG, I think.

I predict Trump will land in big tax trouble in NY, now that people will be taking a close look. I also expect Trump hotels to go belly up once the emoluments stop.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:28:29pm

re: #46 Belafon

She’s posed nude, so there’s that. She’s decorated the White House like a scene from Nightmare Before Christmas without meaning to. So, I guess that’s different as well.

She hasn’t bothered with any of that fancy public activism that any of the previous First Ladies have.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:28:53pm

re: #45 De Kolta Chair

I’m cancelling my subscription now and switching to the WaPo.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:29:42pm

re: #47 makeitstop

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Yep. Can’t wait to hear how this is different but every liberal remotely associated with Hollywood is guilty because of Weinstein but this is difference because shut up.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:29:51pm

re: #46 Belafon

She’s posed nude, so there’s that. She’s decorated the White House like a scene from Nightmare Before Christmas without meaning to. So, I guess that’s different as well.

She also did a lesbian sex photo shoot too, but Tony Perkins says Trump gets a mulligan.

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bratwurst  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:30:25pm

When will GOP politicians begin being shamed into returning donations from Steve Wynn?

When will Jake Tapper and Chris Cillizza start the clocks to measure how long it takes Trump and others to address the Steve Wynn allegations?

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TedStriker  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:30:34pm

re: #49 klys (maker of Silmarils)

She hasn’t bothered with any of that fancy public activism that any of the previous First Ladies have.

She does have that half-assed anti-bullying thing, but, given her husband, that’s pretty much for show.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:30:43pm

re: #53 bratwurst

Are you kidding?

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:30:48pm

re: #50 Ace Rothstein

I’m cancelling my subscription now and switching to the WaPo.

WaPo seems to be taking their increased subscriptions to mean they should do actual journalism, because that’s why they got them in the first place.

It also goes back to NYT meaning “The Real Wall Street Paper.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:32:06pm

re: #55 Ace Rothstein

Are you kidding?

Definitely being tongue in cheek considering the fauxrage following Weinstein.

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allegro  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:33:07pm

TFW when you’re bored and look to see if there’s anything on teevee and see Masterpiece Theater has on a great opera, Norma, whee! but it’s already 20 minutes in oh darn so you turn it on and find Washington Week instead and go oh shit but look at the local PBS listing anyway and see that it’s on at 8:30 instead so you haven’t missed any of it.

And there’s wine. And a power boop from a cute kitty. :D

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:33:17pm

If Joy Reid wasn’t married, good lord…I’m just sayin’.

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bratwurst  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:33:25pm

re: #55 Ace Rothstein

Are you kidding?

Sorry, the flu is making me delirious here!

Edit: Turns out Trump is all over this!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:33:28pm

re: #54 TedStriker

She does have that half-assed anti-bullying thing, but, given her husband, that’s pretty much for show.

Given that she hasn’t really done anything about it besides say she was going to address it, I’m not giving her any credit.

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teleskiguy  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:33:58pm
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Belafon  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:34:12pm

re: #59 Ace Rothstein

If Joy Reid wasn’t married, good lord…I’m just sayin’.

I don’t think any of us would be in her league.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:34:12pm

re: #61 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Given that she hasn’t really done anything about it besides say she was going to address it, I’m not giving her any credit.

It’s too bad because if she were, I’d actually give her props because it’s a good cause but she’s not as you say.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:34:19pm

Anyway, I was very productive in some sense of the word today.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:34:32pm

re: #50 Ace Rothstein

I’m cancelling my subscription now and switching to the WaPo.

Like Jennifer Rubin is an improvement over Ross Douthat?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:37:32pm

re: #66 De Kolta Chair

Like Jennifer Rubin is an improvement?

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Both Jennifer Rubin and Bill Kristol have been making sense in this bizarre world we’re living in today. That’s why I’m pretty sure I’m dreaming all of this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:38:39pm

re: #67 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Both Jennifer Rubin and Bill Kristol have been making sense in this bizarre world we’re living in today. That’s why I’m pretty sure I’m dreaming all of this.

Even Joe Walsh has sometimes made sense. Like what in the name of fuck.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:39:33pm

Bill Kristol takes on Fox News, Tucker Carlson: ‘I don’t know if it’s racism exactly - but ethno-nationalism of some kind’

Bill Kristol was often a guest on Fox News, but he says he appeared gradually less on the network after he declined to do something for Roger Ailes.

“Now Fox is sort of — 75 percent of it seems to be birther-like coverage of different issues,” Kristol tells CNBC’s John Harwood.

Kristol criticizes Fox News host Tucker Carlson, saying what he does on TV is “close now to racism, white — I mean, I don’t know if it’s racism exactly — but ethno-nationalism of some kind, let’s call it.”

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stpaulbear  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:39:38pm

re: #56 Belafon

WaPo seems to be taking their increased subscriptions to mean they should do actual journalism, because that’s why they got them in the first place.

It also goes back to NYT meaning “The Real Wall Street Paper.”

Yep. I subscribed to the WaPo right after the election. They have a couple of really awful columnists (Marc Thiessen. Barf), but I’m really glad to be supporting their reporting and many of their columnists - even Jennifer Rubin.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:40:22pm

re: #69 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Bill Kristol takes on Fox News, Tucker Carlson: ‘I don’t know if it’s racism exactly - but ethno-nationalism of some kind’

Bill Kristol was often a guest on Fox News, but he says he appeared gradually less on the network after he declined to do something for Roger Ailes.

“Now Fox is sort of — 75 percent of it seems to be birther-like coverage of different issues,” Kristol tells CNBC’s John Harwood.

Kristol criticizes Fox News host Tucker Carlson, saying what he does on TV is “close now to racism, white — I mean, I don’t know if it’s racism exactly — but ethno-nationalism of some kind, let’s call it.”

It’s racism, Bill.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:40:49pm

re: #70 stpaulbear

Yep. I subscribed to the WaPo right after the election. They have a couple of really awful columnists (Marc Thiessen. Barf), but I’m really glad to be supporting their reporting and many of their columnists - even Jennifer Rubin.

They don’t publish Will as often as they used to. He’s not terrible though relatively speaking.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:42:21pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

It’s racism, Bill.

Yeah, they call it ethno-nationalism or tribalism, but it’s just straight up racism.

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TedStriker  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:42:23pm

re: #69 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Bill Kristol takes on Fox News, Tucker Carlson: ‘I don’t know if it’s racism exactly - but ethno-nationalism of some kind’

Bill Kristol was often a guest on Fox News, but he says he appeared gradually less on the network after he declined to do something for Roger Ailes.

“Now Fox is sort of — 75 percent of it seems to be birther-like coverage of different issues,” Kristol tells CNBC’s John Harwood.

Kristol criticizes Fox News host Tucker Carlson, saying what he does on TV is “close now to racism, white — I mean, I don’t know if it’s racism exactly — but ethno-nationalism of some kind, let’s call it.”

Bill, you’re still trying to fucking cover for Fox News, even as you are trying to criticize them.

It’s still fucking racism and bigotry, ya chowderhead.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:42:26pm

The conservatives that are shocked and upset now are the people who object to the man-on-donkey sideshow being conducted in the front yard, as opposed to the more discrete back yard or main bedroom.

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scottslemmons  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:42:37pm

re: #69 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Bill Kristol takes on Fox News, Tucker Carlson: ‘I don’t know if it’s racism exactly - but ethno-nationalism of some kind’

Bill Kristol was often a guest on Fox News, but he says he appeared gradually less on the network after he declined to do something for Roger Ailes.

That doesn’t sound ominous at all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:42:55pm

re: #73 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yeah, they call it ethno-nationalism or tribalism, but it’s just straight up racism.

It’s no different from what David Duke preaches.

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whitebeach  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:44:00pm

re: #65 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Anyway, I was very productive in some sense of the word today.

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Beautiful. Plus for some reason for years I’ve wanted to step up to a bunch of damp clay and yell, “You’re fired!”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:44:12pm

re: #75 The Ghost of a Flea

The conservatives that are shocked and upset now are the people who object to the man-on-donkey sideshow being conducted in the front yard, as opposed to the more discrete back yard or main bedroom.

That’s true as well. I do think there are some of them genuinely bothered but I think most of them are concerned what Trump has done to their ideology rather than thinking that maybe their ideology helped make someone like Trump appealing in the first place but you’re never going to get tehse guys to admit that Reagan and otehr popular conservatives of the past are why we got Trumpism.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:45:29pm

re: #78 whitebeach

Beautiful. Plus for some reason for years I’ve wanted to step up to a bunch of damp clay and yell, “You’re fired!”

You can do it twice. Once when it’s greenware (like this stuff is) and once again when it’s bisqueware (past the first firing but still needs to be glazed).

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:46:06pm

re: #74 TedStriker

Bill, you’re still trying to fucking cover for Fox News, even as you are trying to criticize them.

It’s still fucking racism and bigotry, ya chowderhead.

Just say it in your polite voice. It’s a little hard for some of these to make it over that barrier, but Kristol is really close.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:46:43pm

re: #60 bratwurst

Sorry, the flu is making me delirious here!

Edit: Turns out Trump is all over this!

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scottslemmons  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:49:11pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:49:21pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:50:58pm

Georgian food leftovers, day 5: if it can be fit onto a pizza, it’s a pizza ingredient.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:51:36pm

re: #85 The Ghost of a Flea

Georgian food leftovers, day 5: if it can be fit onto a pizza, it’s a pizza ingredient.

Georgian food? What’s that like? Sounds like it’d be interesting given Georgia’s location.

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Citizen K  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:52:39pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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They’re well keyed up on tiny threats, elephants are. Mythbusters proved that they’re very wary of mice too, even if mice aren’t necessarily a threat. So them being wary of bees, which could pose more of a threat due to, as the article points out, them swarming the sensitive areas not protected by hide, seems pretty logical.

Them trunk toters are pretty smart and savvy, you know.

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:53:03pm

re: #83 scottslemmons

The really annoying thing is all the guys saying “You’ve had equal pay for decades.”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:53:03pm
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Mike Lamb  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:53:22pm

The denials about the smear campaign ring a more than a bit hollow considering his aides did in fact go on a smear campaign…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:54:07pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

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I have no idea. it’s pretty amazing that even with this stuff, the wingnuts still think the NYT is this ultra liberal and anti Trump paper.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:55:50pm

re: #83 scottslemmons

And the moustache hides the fact that she has no upper lip*.

* I don’t, either.

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whitebeach  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:57:50pm

re: #85 The Ghost of a Flea

Georgian food leftovers, day 5: if it can be fit onto a pizza, it’s a pizza ingredient.

I’ve got a hubcap from a ‘65 Grand Prix somewhere around here. Want it?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:58:14pm

OK, how screwed up is it that instead of my first thought being “Good” that it was instead one of surprise that Louisiana jury convicted a white man of killing a person of color.
And, from the AP’s 4 PM update to their story it seems like there was a chance they almost didn’t:

Jurors in the trial of the man who shot former NFL running back Joe McKnight have asked the judge questions about how Louisiana law defines an “aggressor” and the state’s “stand your ground” laws.

Now we’ll have to wait and see how they sentence him.

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plansbandc  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:58:44pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

It’s one of the most beautiful parks I’ve been to, and you drive about 30 minutes to Dead Horse Canyon State Park that is one of the hidden wonders of the west. Could never live in Utah, but it is one gorgeous state.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:59:42pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jan 26, 2018 • 6:59:50pm

re: #45 De Kolta Chair

Ya know, NYT, if you’re trying to fellate Trump you might want to talk to FLOTUS for pointers first.

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Citizen K  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:00:16pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

The Stockholm Syndrome with the entire paper is real.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:00:31pm

A writer well worth checking out:

Miguel de Unamuno, 1864-1936
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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:00:54pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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WHY HILLARY CURSE! //

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makeitstop  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:01:03pm
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Citizen K  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:01:54pm

re: #102 makeitstop

It’s funny how Fox News never seems to consider itself ‘media’ ever, despite being the only fucking game in town in many ways.

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Skip Intro  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:04:38pm

re: #98 Romantic Heretic

Ya know, NYT, if you’re trying to fellate Trump you might want to talk to FLOTUS for pointers first.

Hannity would be my go to expert on that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:05:32pm

re: #102 makeitstop

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From a man who had to take a vacation becaues of pizzagate.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:05:59pm

re: #103 Citizen K

The term “media” was fun while it lasted, but can really mean anything. I wish “the press” would make a comeback, in more ways than one.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:07:22pm

re: #106 De Kolta Chair

The term “media” was fun while it lasted, but can really mean anything, I wish “the press” would make a comeback, in more ways than one.

What I love when FNC whines about the media at that same time, they love to brag about how popular tehy are. And they are mainstream too. But yet they act like they’re this scrappy underground news network.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:08:03pm
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majii  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:10:28pm

re: #61 klys (maker of Silmarils)

“Given that she hasn’t really done anything about it besides say she was going to address it, I’m not giving her any credit.”

I don’t understand why whoever wrote the NYT article thinks Melania is changing anything. It’s not as if she’s going to local area schools with “Mother” to visit students or organizing and running an organization to help veterans get jobs and assist active duty members of our military and their families. These are just two things among many that FL Michelle Obama and 2nd Lady Dr. Jill Biden did. Dr. Biden kept her teaching job while serving! Melania hides out in the WH all day everyday and she’s some kind of U.S./world-changing icon? Hell to the no. Excuse my English, but I ain’t buying the BS.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:10:38pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

They’re just shining a light

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:10:44pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

That’s because they and their followers like to believe they are heroes, and that the war on evil they are fighting is being won.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:11:54pm

re: #60 bratwurst

Do you have the flu?

Signed,

Worried friend.

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makeitstop  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:16:43pm

re: #103 Citizen K

It’s funny how Fox News never seems to consider itself ‘media’ ever, despite being the only fucking game in town in many ways.

Not to mention how they constantly crow about kicking everyone’s asses in the ratings.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:16:49pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

What I love when FNC whines about the media at that same time, they love to brag about how popular tehy are. And they are mainstream too. But yet they act like they’re this scrappy underground news network.

The ads they run in AdWeek and MarketingWeek are all about how hugely #1 and leading in all demographics they are.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:18:06pm

re: #102 makeitstop

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Stanley Sea  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:18:26pm

re: #94 whitebeach

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:18:43pm

Tom Toro draws the best Trump imho

Tom Toro
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:19:57pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:20:32pm

re: #66 De Kolta Chair

Like Jennifer Rubin is an improvement over Ross Douthat?

Yes —- she is a huge improvement over Douthat, who continues to support a hard conservative line. She has certainly changed her perspective over the years and has been universally tough on Trump and the Republicans. The Douthat and David Brooks are both useless.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:20:35pm

re: #113 makeitstop

Not to mention how they constantly crow about kicking everyone’s asses in the ratings.

Exactly. We’re not the media but we’re number 1. Just STFU.

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majii  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:25:52pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

“It’s racism, Bill.”

What I”m enjoying most are the many ways Kristol is trying to distance himself from his handiwork. He’s trying hard, but I’m not buying it. He’ appears to be actively involved in self-absolution. He helped to build today’s GOP. I remember the many times I saw him on TV or read his columns. Not once did he have the courage to attack/oppose the things any GOPer had to say. Nope, you don’t get off that easily with me, Kristol.

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MsJ  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:27:29pm

re: #121 majii

“It’s racism, Bill.”

What I”m enjoying most are the many ways Kristol is trying to distance himself from his handiwork. He’s trying hard, but I’m not buying it. He’ appears to be actively involved in self-absolution. He helped to build today’s GOP. I remember the many times I saw him on TV or read his columns. Not once did he have the courage to attack/oppose the things any GOPer had to say. Nope, you don’t get off that easily with me, Kristol.

What you said! He’s reaping what he spent decades sowing. Fuck off, Bill. I’m not buying what you’re selling.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:27:41pm

re: #121 majii

“It’s racism, Bill.”

What I”m enjoying most are the many ways Kristol is trying to distance himself from his handiwork. He’s trying hard, but I’m not buying it. He’ appears to be actively involved in self-absolution. He helped to build today’s GOP. I remember the many times I saw him on TV or read his columns. Not once did he have the courage to attack/oppose the things any GOPer had to say. Nope, you don’t get off that easily with me, Kristol.

They’re concerned about conservatism’s “good name” being tainted.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:29:13pm

re: #119 Hecuba’s daughter

But without Brooks how would I know how to be bland?

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teleskiguy  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:34:53pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:35:36pm
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jaunte  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:36:40pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:39:33pm

It doesn’t get any more Catholic than this, nor more beuatiful:

The Cranberries - Dolores O’Riordan - Ave Maria - Pavarotti

Two great artists singing together. Why can’t the world be this way?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:40:21pm

re: #124 De Kolta Chair

But without Brooks, how would I know how to be bland?

He’s not bland — he’s obscure and tries to sound erudite; he often promotes the racist William Buckley as being an example of the good thoughtful conservatives of the past.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:41:29pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Long enough a diversion to merit putting under a spoiler bracket.

- Lots of fresh and dried green herbs…some of which I associate with European food (thyme, tarragon, parsley, savory) and some I associate with Asian (cilantro, clove basil). And prominent use of pennyroyal or nepitella (both of which are minty). The primary seasoning mix, khmeli suneli, is mostly dry herbs plus chile and coriander.

- A few distinct regional spices—blue fenugreek (like a milder, less bitter fenugreek), marigold petals (a saffron substitute)—plus a recognizable cross-section of Middle Eastern, Eastern European spices. These are used less boldly than in neighboring Turkey—coriander, paprika, pepper in moderation—and herbs fill the gaps.

- Onions and garlic are both used as aromatics, but there’s surprising number of dishes that use raw or barely-cooked garlic to finish a dish, result in the hot, burning garlic flavor recognizable from stuff like tsatziki.

- Fruit and fruit products are used a great deal in savory dishes and sauces. Unripe and ripe plums, cherries, unripe grapes, apricots, pomegranates, various berries. Tomatoes fill the same niche. One of the ubiquitous condiments is a plum ketchup, tkemali. Dried fruit pulp shaped into sheets and bars are common as snacks, but also for adding flavor to soups, etc. If I recall my history correctly, this is the part of the world where the wine grape was first cultivated and viticulture originated, it’s also the origin of several domesticated fruit trees.

- Walnuts are in everything but the wine. Walnut sauce, and walnuts as a thickener in stews is common. Hazelnuts are also common.

- The vegetable variety is immense, but eggplant and beets turn up a great deal. Hot chiles are enjoyed, and a herbs-and-chiles hot condiment, adzhika, is another common item. There’s apparently a lot of foraged goods—mushrooms in particular—because of the variety of forest conditions.

- It’s a nation in Central Asia where Islam isn’t a major influence, and thus one of the few places where you get Middle Eastern/Central Asian flavors with pork. There’s also a bunch of dairy products: yoghurts, fresh cheeses and mozzarella-like kneaded ones.

- Like a lot of Central Asia, there’s a traditional of roasting meat and baking flatbread in a cylindrical high—temperature oven…tindur, compared to the Indian tandoor. There’s also a lot of grilling and kebab-making, the latter probably reflecting both Turkish and Iranian influence.

Overall, I’d say it resembles the food of Iran in that sour or sweet-sour is favored. You can see a direct line between a dish like Persian fesenjan—pomegranate and walnut sauce over duck or chicken—or khoresht sabzi—“green” stew loading with a mix of herbs—and Georgian dishes. You can also the Turkish connection in stuffed like dolma—stuffed vegetables full of rice and meat.

But the seasoning are unique and not comparable to anywhere else.

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plansbandc  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:47:08pm

re: #118 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I paged this article… (Shameless plug)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:48:08pm

re: #127 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:48:34pm

re: #130 The Ghost of a Flea

Long enough a diversion to merit putting under a spoiler bracket.

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Sounds good, thanks.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:52:32pm

William?

I ran across this playlist all Lizzie Hale

Iframe

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makeitstop  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:53:29pm

Thread.

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Kragar  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:55:46pm
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Belafon  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:55:56pm

re: #121 majii

“It’s racism, Bill.”

What I”m enjoying most are the many ways Kristol is trying to distance himself from his handiwork. He’s trying hard, but I’m not buying it. He’ appears to be actively involved in self-absolution. He helped to build today’s GOP. I remember the many times I saw him on TV or read his columns. Not once did he have the courage to attack/oppose the things any GOPer had to say. Nope, you don’t get off that easily with me, Kristol.

He’s really close to admitting that the GOP is straight up racist, but that will require him to admit that he is as well. He’s close, but not quite ready to admit that. That last one percent will be pretty hard for him. I’m hoping he crosses it, but I’m not holding my breath.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 26, 2018 • 7:59:53pm

re: #118 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Bullshit.

JFC.

Should I respond. Yes, I will.

That bullshit paragraph paints women as victim of sex

Which is the fucking problem. It plays exactly into women without power!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:00:52pm

re: #98 Romantic Heretic

Ya know, NYT, if you’re trying to fellate Trump you might want to talk to FLOTUS for pointers first.

No, they just love that brown lipstick!

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Kragar  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:01:24pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:02:30pm

re: #131 plansbandc

I paged this article… (Shameless plug)

Kinda freaking out.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:03:03pm

re: #136 Kragar

Single best choreographed fight in Star Wars. Kurosawa messy urgency compared to the wuxia of Darth Maul.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:03:48pm
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Kragar  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:05:16pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:09:00pm
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plansbandc  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:16:30pm

Netflix’s reboot of “One Day at a Time” is quite good. Rita Moreno is outstanding, but really everyone is good. I highly recommend it.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:17:01pm

Despite what Jann Wenner has sold a generation of rock ‘n’ roll rubes on, Bobbie Gentry is one of the most underrated singer-songwriters of the 20th Century

Bobbie Gentry - Benjamin (1971)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:17:04pm

re: #138 Stanley Sea

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:21:14pm

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TedStriker  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:24:06pm

re: #147 De Kolta Chair

Despite what Jann Wenner has sold a generation of rock ‘n’ roll rubes on, Bobbie Gentry is one of the most underrated singer-songwriters of the 20th Century

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“Ode to Billie Joe”, as played out as it became back in the day, is still a very haunting song.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:24:37pm

re: #148 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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TedStriker  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:27:48pm

re: #147 De Kolta Chair

Despite what Jann Wenner has sold a generation of rock ‘n’ roll rubes on, Bobbie Gentry is one of the most underrated singer-songwriters of the 20th Century

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Speaking of Wenner, he’s a sleazeball too:

variety.com

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:31:38pm

Apropos of nada

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teleskiguy  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:32:03pm

The $64K question. That we all know the answer to.

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plansbandc  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:32:42pm

re: #153 De Kolta Chair

Oh hell yes!

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Stanley Sea  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:32:47pm

re: #145 teleskiguy

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BS

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:35:33pm

Attention span of the press: 24 hour news cycle

Attention span of the average American: eternally pissed off

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:35:49pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:36:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:37:48pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

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The $64K question. That we all know the answer to.

Owned.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:39:43pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:40:35pm

re: #153 De Kolta Chair

Apropos of nada

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THE BANANA SPLITS

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:41:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:42:52pm

re: #163 jaunte

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I haven’t seen anything by Trump that suggests he believes in the 1st amendment.

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:45:07pm

re: #163 jaunte

He can’t seem to get that to happen here, so he’s hoping he can get it done somewhere else.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:45:11pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

I haven’t seen anything by Trump that suggests he believes in the 1st amendment.

I don’t think he’s read that far in the Constitution

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:45:15pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

I think he won’t be visiting unless he can sneak in and out without being seen by the public.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:46:38pm

Free speech- nope, see how he treats nfl players
Freedom religion- Uh Muslims?
Free press- Dude wants to revise libel laws because he’s too sensitive
Freedom of assembly- see above
Freedom to petition- Probably not fond of that one either

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:47:13pm

re: #166 wheat-dogg

I don’t think he’s read that far in the Constitution

I’d be shocked if he’s read extensively on constitutional case law.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:47:30pm

re: #167 jaunte

I think he won’t be visiting unless he can sneak in and out without being seen by the public.

Not gonna happen.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:48:02pm

re: #169 HappyWarrior

I’d be shocked if he’s read

FTFY

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teleskiguy  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:48:46pm

re: #166 wheat-dogg

I don’t think he’s read that far in the Constitution

WE THE PEOPLE, NOW THAT’S BIGLY, FOLKS. PRIME TIME. IT’S RIGHT IN THE CONSTITUTION. TREMENDOUS.

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makeitstop  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:48:47pm

re: #163 jaunte

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Preznit Snowflake.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:48:54pm

re: #171 wheat-dogg

FTFY

Aside from flattering articles about himself? Yeah doubtful l.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:49:14pm

re: #146 plansbandc

Netflix’s reboot of “One Day at A Time” is quite good. Rita Moreno is outstanding, but really everyone is good. I highly recommend it.

Someone doesn’t care for reboots

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:50:39pm

I just finished reading this:

Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win
amazon.com

It’s a pretty good summary of what’s known so far about Trump being groomed by the Russians, going back to the 1980s.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:50:54pm

He is one of the least intellectually curious people not just in politics but period I’ve ever seen.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:51:51pm

re: #175 FormerDirtDart

Someone doesn’t care for reboots

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I’m with her. Reboots are lazy TV programming. But if Rita M is doing One Day At a Time, I may revise my opinion.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:51:58pm

re: #176 jaunte

I just finished reading this:

It’s a pretty good summary of what’s known so far about Trump being groomed by the Russians, going back to the 1980s.

Did Trump ever go to Berlin then? Putin was stationed in East Berlin iirc.

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plansbandc  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:53:01pm

re: #178 wheat-dogg

It’s really good. And Norman Lear produces it.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:53:01pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I don’t think Berlin was mentioned specifically, but he was definitely on their radar by 1984.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:54:07pm

re: #180 plansbandc

It’s really good. And Norman Lear produces it.

Oh cool. I’ll check it out. The original was pretty good, as I recall.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:57:55pm

re: #181 jaunte

I don’t think Berlin was mentioned specifically, but he was definitely on their radar by 1984.

Oh for sure.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:58:39pm

What I’m curious about is how many people the Russians have by the balls.

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plansbandc  Jan 26, 2018 • 8:58:48pm

re: #182 wheat-dogg

The twist is that it’s a Cuban family, mom, grandma, and two kids (boy and a girl). Mom’s a military vet. Cast is spot on and the writing is terrific.

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:00:47pm

I hate when you get a segmentation fault only in release mode.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:01:58pm

Plane is boarding. See you all from Hanoi in a while.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:02:36pm

re: #187 wheat-dogg

Plane is boarding. See you all from Hanoi in a while.

Safe journeys.

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plansbandc  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:03:37pm

re: #187 wheat-dogg

Happy Travels! Take lots of pics!

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:08:11pm

Reba as Colonel Sanders

KFC | Honky Tonk | Smoky Mountain BBQ

Another ceiling broken

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ipsos  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:10:15pm

re: #178 wheat-dogg

Anyway, it’s not like we need a reboot to find out what a 55-year-old Alex P. Keaton is like. He’s on Fox News every night at 9.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:14:06pm

FYI

Asparagus

So used to buying the pretty skinny stalks.

Store has only fattys. hmmm, but I buy.

The fat stalks have all the flavor.

ALL the flavor, best asparagus I’ve had in years.

We are so manipulated by marketing.

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Alyosha  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:14:19pm

re: #151 Stanley Sea

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:18:05pm

You’re not going to believe this. Lubbock-Cooper school district is raffling an arsenal of guns to raise money for the band..
Students and parents against band sponsored gun raffle
There was a similar raffle last year:

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Stanley Sea  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:18:41pm

re: #193 Alyosha

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Alyosha  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:23:35pm

re: #195 Stanley Sea

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:24:25pm

re: #193 Alyosha

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:28:44pm

re: #194 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Maybe they should raffle a year’s supply of Viagra instead. It won’t harm others and it addresses the root cause of the problem much more directly.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:29:21pm

NEW YORK — A federal judge ruled Friday that the family company once run by Jared Kushner isn’t allowed to keep secret the identity of its business partners in several Maryland properties. The decision means the company tied to President Trump’s son-in-law might be forced to provide a rare glimpse into how it finances its real estate ventures.

A U.S. district judge in the state rejected the argument that the privacy rights of the Kushner Cos. partners outweigh the public interest in obtaining judicial records in a lawsuit before the court.

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Alyosha  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:30:46pm

re: #197 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Stanley Sea  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:35:18pm

Random, but nice

Fleetwood Mac - Landslide

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whitebeach  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:35:19pm

re: #116 Stanley Sea

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:36:29pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:37:01pm

re: #200 Alyosha

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Stanley Sea  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:43:01pm

re: #202 whitebeach

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March 8-10.

I’m tired, you are up late & I’m glad!!!!

We’ll figure out something!

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Alyosha  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:44:59pm

re: #204 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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whitebeach  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:45:57pm

re: #147 De Kolta Chair

Despite what Jann Wenner has sold a generation of rock ‘n’ roll rubes on, Bobbie Gentry is one of the most underrated singer-songwriters of the 20th Century

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Fuckin A Tweety Bird. I remember back in college with some of my Chicago college bros who were just discovering the Stones, and one of them threw out the question, What’s the best song you’ve heard this year, and I started singing, “It was the third of June, another sleepy dusty Delta day,” and you would have thought I shit in their Cheetos and pissed in their beer.

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2018 • 9:52:39pm

I love how many ways this country can say white. //

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whitebeach  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:00:12pm

re: #208 Belafon

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I love how many ways this country can say white. //

Even so, it looks like they’ve only got about 31% of the Repukes.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:14:26pm

And now for your moment of “Huh”?

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:16:32pm

re: #210 Dave In Austin

And now for your moment of “Huh”?

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Oh, Love! (I miss my half-coyote, who was a wondrous dog. She was more like a hunting cat than a dog, really.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:16:45pm

After leaving the Mercedes dealer from having our car serviced, we took the car on a shakedown cruise under widely varying conditions.

Braving the teeming hordes of the Denver Metroplex, we then struck out south through the crowds of highway bandits on I-25 to Colorado Springs.

On returning today, we blazed a trail through the steaming jungles of the Colorado Black Forest, as my wife wanted to see the Mrs. Anymouse Memorial Traffic Light in Falcon (where she was allegedly killed in a traffic accident a couple decades ago before we met, but she apparently got better). On a previous trip through Falcon, we’d heard from the convenience store personnel there of the haunted intersection after the traffic light was installed.

After crossing the blasted desert plains on the country roads around Kiowa, the landmine fields and barbed wire in the Demilitarised Zone between Peetz and Lorenzo, Nebraska, passing the hunting outfitters at Cabela’s in Sidney without being confused with game, through the herds of suicidal deer near the North Platte River (where we have previously bagged two with our Smart at high speed), and near the flocks of Wild Turkey at the bridge crossing into the village (alas, we could not bag a fifth this time or even a quart), we made it home fine.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:17:24pm

re: #211 retired cynic

And we had a pygmy goat, too. I can’t say the two of them every tried this. They were much too serious.

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:18:39pm

re: #210 Dave In Austin

And now for your moment of “Huh”?

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I have a chaweenie and what we think is a miniature pincer, and their playing together looks a lot like that minus the head butting.

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plansbandc  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:20:16pm

Fucking Piers gave the orange bag an Arsenal jersey. I hate the entire world.

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sagehen  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:21:50pm

re: #187 wheat-dogg

Plane is boarding. See you all from Hanoi in a while.

If you have time to visit with us, that would be a sign the vacation isn’t going well.

I’d rather see a 30-second check-in every day, and a gazillion photos and stories and recipes after you get home.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:24:37pm

re: #214 Belafon

I have a chaweenie and what we think is a miniature pincer, and their playing together looks a lot like that minus the head butting.

MinPin’s are adorable. Built on springs. (Have a personal acquaintance with one named Bentley.)

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:26:15pm

re: #217 retired cynic

MinPin’s are adorable. Built on springs. (Have a personal acquaintance with one named Bentley.)

The shelter had named him Zero, after Nightmare Before Christmas, and after we brought him home and watched him jump around, we made his middle name Gravity.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:27:01pm

re: #218 Belafon

The shelter had named him Zero, and after we brought him home and watched him jump around, we made his middle name Gravity.

LOL!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:27:07pm

Doomsday Clock moved closer than ever toward midnight: two minutes.

wesh.com (with video from the Union of Concerned Scientists)

It’s over Trump’s “my nuke button is bigger than Kim Jong Un’s nuke button.”

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scottslemmons  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:28:42pm

re: #210 Dave In Austin

And now for your moment of “Huh”?

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Aww, the poor goat just wants to head-butt a little.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:34:31pm

re: #221 scottslemmons

Aww, the poor goat just wants to head-butt a little.

Hasn’t heard about CTE. Neither had ours.

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plansbandc  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:35:18pm

re: #217 retired cynic

Chiweenie solidarity!!

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scottslemmons  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:36:29pm

re: #211 retired cynic

Oh, Love! (I miss my half-coyote, who was a wondrous dog. She was more like a hunting cat than a dog, really.)

I’d always heard half-breed animals were more dangerous, though that may have just applied to wolf-dog hybrids.

(My sole contact with a wolf-dog hybrid came a few years ago while I was in the big bookstore in Denton. I’m digging through one of the dead-end corners of the sci-fi section, when some guy breezes in behind me with this gorgeous but immense dog. I thought I recognized it and asked if it was a hybrid. He said yes, and that he had the dog there so he could socialize it. Body language said the animal was absolutely beyond terrified to be there, and I didn’t want to agitate it further by rushing past it, so I had to wait ‘til the guy moved on before I could get to a section of the store where I felt a little safer…)

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Citizen K  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:40:09pm

re: #203 FormerDirtDart

For all the pixels and ink wasted on how conservative viewpoints are ‘silenced’, it seems to have found quite the place as a permanent fixture in the ‘even the liberal’ New York Times.

Between this, the constant Trump voter hagiographies, incessant HRC bashing contrasted with Trump soft-handing, and now Brooks’ glowing endorsement of Peterson, you’d think they’d finally have some cred with the group that Baquet keeps courting. But that would assume they were actually genuine with those concerns.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:40:41pm

re: #224 scottslemmons

I have a friend who used to raise “wolf-dogs.’ I have no idea of the genetics, but they looked like wolves. They certainly did not seem to be dangerous, but her area outlawed them, and they were seized. It broke her heart, as they were truly members of her family.

And I know all about how some “dangerous” breeds like pitbulls and dobermans can be raised properly, and I have met some personally that seemed to be fine upon casual acquaintance, but who had triggers that sent them into another dimension. A dimension I did not care to be in!

So personal experience mixed.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:45:02pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:45:39pm

re: #226 retired cynic

I have a friend who used to raise “wolf-dogs.’ I have no idea of the genetics, but they looked like wolves. They certainly did not seem to be dangerous, but her area outlawed them, and they were seized. It broke her heart, as they were truly members of her family.

And I know all about how some “dangerous” breeds like pitbulls and dobermans can be raised properly, and I have met some personally that seemed to be fine upon casual acquaintance, but who had triggers that sent them into another dimension. A dimension I did not care to be in!

So personal experience mixed.

All the pitbulls I’ve known through friends have been really nice and calm. I’m still not a fan of the dog, but they have been far less aggressive than wolf hybrids I’ve known. Wolves are not even close to being pets. I’d trust a pet bear over a wolf.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:46:59pm

re: #228 Single-handed sailor

My experiences were different, but add us all up and you’d have a statistic.

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scottslemmons  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:50:34pm

re: #228 Single-handed sailor

All the pitbulls I’ve known through friends have been really nice and calm. I’m still not a fan of the dog, but they have been far less aggressive than wolf hybrids I’ve known. Wolves are not even close to being pets. I’d trust a pet bear over a wolf.

I’d trust a wolf over a bear. A wolf gets scared? It runs away from you. A bear gets scared? Sometimes they run at you.

There are very few documented reports of healthy wolves attacking humans without provocation. There are a hell of a lot more bear attacks than wolf attacks.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:52:15pm

re: #230 scottslemmons

I’d trust a wolf over a bear. A wolf gets scared? It runs away from you. A bear gets scared? Sometimes they run at you.

There are very few documented reports of healthy wolves attacking humans without provocation. There are a hell of a lot more bear attacks than wolf attacks.

I’m talking “domesticated” wolf vs bear. In the wild yeah, I agree.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:57:36pm

re: #198 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Maybe they should raffle a year’s supply of Viagra instead. It won’t harm others and it addresses the root cause of the problem much more directly.

The optics of a school raffling guns. Lubbock wants to arm its next school shooter?

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2018 • 10:58:48pm

re: #142 The Ghost of a Flea

Single best choreographed fight in Star Wars. Kurosawa messy urgency compared to the wuxia of Darth Maul.

That’s what I was trying to put my finger on when I saw The Last Jedi. The prequels used a great deal of the elegant wuxia seen in films like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon whereas that scene from TLJ would’ve been right at home in a film like Seven Samurai or Ran.

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Kragar  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:00:10pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:01:55pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

Did Trump ever go to Berlin then? Putin was stationed in East Berlin iirc.

I know the Czechoslovak StB (the local version of the KGB) had a file on Trump because of his marriage to Ivana (née Zelníčková).

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scottslemmons  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:02:24pm

re: #231 Single-handed sailor

I’m talking “domesticated” wolf vs bear. In the wild yeah, I agree.

Ah, okay. I’m still not sure which I’d trust. Taking wild animals and “domesticating” them seems like something that often goes wrong. I’ve heard enough horror stories about attacks by all kinds of animals that I’m more than a bit nervous about all of them but dogs and cats. :(

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:04:11pm

re: #228 Single-handed sailor

All the pitbulls I’ve known through friends have been really nice and calm. I’m still not a fan of the dog, but they have been far less aggressive than wolf hybrids I’ve known. Wolves are not even close to being pets. I’d trust a pet bear over a wolf.

My mother’s pit bull is a creampuff (in behaviour and shape). The dog slobbers all over everyone who comes to visit her.

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allegro  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:06:11pm

re: #205 Stanley Sea

March 8-10.

I’m tired, you are up late & I’m glad!!!!

We’ll figure out something!

Oh damn. I’m gonna be through there 2 weeks later. Missing you guys by thaaaaat much.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:08:18pm

re: #237 Anymouse 🌹

My mother’s pit bull is a creampuff (in behaviour and shape). The dog slobbers all over everyone who comes to visit her.

And I had neighbors with creampuff pitbulls. Raised from puppies in a good home. One day when the neighbors were gone they came over here and killed one of my cats, a cat they had known for a long time. And it was not a pretty death. I will not torture by describing it. The neighbors were aghast, and put the dogs down. They were afraid they would “play” like that with a small child.

So like I said, there are individual anecdotes. Not sure how that can be analyzed.

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Kragar  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:09:23pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:19:09pm

re: #233 Dr Lizardo

That’s what I was trying to put my finger on when I saw The Last Jedi. The prequels used a great deal of the elegant wuxia seen in films like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon whereas that scene from TLJ would’ve been right at home in a film like Seven Samurai or Ran.

The prequel trilogy got overly-invested in snazzy backgrounds and digitized effects, and the fights frequently were busy, and the motions of the actors jumping around looked like…Super Mario Bros. But Ray Park is an excellent physical performer, and that one fight really stands out because he moves so differently than every other Force user seen prior.

The other good fighter? Christopher Lee was a fencer, and it really shows when they have him fire up a lightsaber.

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allegro  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:19:38pm

re: #228 Single-handed sailor

All the pitbulls I’ve known through friends have been really nice and calm. I’m still not a fan of the dog, but they have been far less aggressive than wolf hybrids I’ve known. Wolves are not even close to being pets. I’d trust a pet bear over a wolf.

A wolf or wolf-dog can be trust-worthy IF you know how to behave around one and it is quite different from a domesticated dog. While they can be intensely (word used deliberately) loyal to a human, I would never advocate having one as a family pet.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:21:16pm

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹

The optics of a school raffling guns. Lubbock wants to arm its next school shooter?

Someone suggested setting aside 10% of the proceeds to buy flowers for the funerals of the next batch of school shooting victims. They could call it Guns ‘n Roses.

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Citizen K  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:31:14pm

I looked up more about this Jordan Peterson character, and then followed the rabbit hole via Twitter.

I have a far better understanding of just how someone like Trump could have been voted in and the Wisconsin “Get In The Kitchen” candidate can be a thing in 2018. The dude has tapped into a pathology along the lines of the MRA-ers and yet is celebrated as some brilliant genius academic that single-handedly ‘destroyed’ the concept of feminism or some bizarre shit.

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allegro  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:35:18pm

re: #237 Anymouse 🌹

My mother’s pit bull is a creampuff (in behaviour and shape). The dog slobbers all over everyone who comes to visit her.

Slobbering all over is a great sign of a friendly dog. Calm is absolutely not, though it is often considered to be by many. I see a calm, still pitbull (or other bully dog) if I’m out walking my dog and the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. I leave the area as quickly as I can. This is a sign of a predator fixin to attack or at least thinking about it real hard.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:41:39pm
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ckkatz  Jan 26, 2018 • 11:56:53pm

re: #245 allegro

Slobbering all over is a great sign of a friendly dog. Calm is absolutely not, though it is often considered to be by many. I see a calm, still pitbull (or other bully dog) if I’m out walking my dog and the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. I leave the area as quickly as I can. This is a sign of a predator fixin to attack or at least thinking about it real hard.

I am not as familiar with dogs as with cats. But that is certainly the case with bears, particularly black bears. If a bear doesn’t split as soon as it detects you, there is definitely something wrong. And if it is calmly watching you, there is good chance that it is considering whether you might make an easy meal.

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Kragar  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:10:21am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:14:34am

re: #239 retired cynic

And I had neighbors with creampuff pitbulls. Raised from puppies in a good home. One day when the neighbors were gone they came over here and killed one of my cats, a cat they had known for a long time. And it was not a pretty death. I will not torture by describing it. The neighbors were aghast, and put the dogs down. They were afraid they would “play” like that with a small child.

So like I said, there are individual anecdotes. Not sure how that can be analyzed.

I’m sorry that happened to your cat. As you note, there are individual anecdotes. My mother lives in an apartment and the dog can never get out unless it is under her or my step-father’s control.

And other types of dogs have also killed cats.

There are reasons for leash laws, and the reasons aren’t “pit bulls can be bad,” they are “dogs can be bad.”

I still have a bite mark scar in my abdomen from when I was thirteen from a so-called good dog, a labrador retriever. The dog tore a chunk out of my right side, which required hospitalisation. Labradors are normally considered “good dogs,” and this particular dog I’d seen and petted in the past; it just went off the rails one time, and I was the unfortunate target.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:19:17am
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EPR-radar  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:26:17am

re: #250 Dave In Austin

That must be the redacted version of the Nunes memo. It fails to mention Trump’s three-foot cock.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:29:02am

re: #248 Kragar

What, pray tell, is Form Submission 1649?

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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:37:45am

re: #252 Dr Lizardo

What, pray tell, is Form Submission 1649?

It’s a Hannity thing…… Need I say more.

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Kragar  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:38:53am

re: #252 Dr Lizardo

What, pray tell, is Form Submission 1649?

Its the last thing Hannity tweeted about before his account disappeared.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:42:54am

Wikipedia, the font of all human ken (citation needed) has an article on dog bites resulting in fatalities in the USA. It cites a number of studies going back decades, including universities and the CDC. Interestingly there, you get stuff like this (who’d’ve thought a Yorkshire Terrier could mount a fatal attack on a human):

A study conducted at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical School identified 74 fatal dog bites during the period 1966-1980 from news media and medical literature.

Most fatalities were young children, including 23 infants under 1 year old. In most cases, the dog was owned by the victim’s family. In only 3 of the incidents was the dog reported to have been provoked by kicking, hitting, or having stones thrown at it. However, several incidents involved a child attempting to pet or hug the dog.

In 6 of the incidents, there was no information available about the kind of dogs involved. In ten fatal attacks, the dogs were only described as “mixed-breed”.

Many involved large and powerful molosser breeds: eight Saint Bernards, six Bull terriers, six Great Danes, two Boxers and a Rottweiler. In contrast to the time period covered in other studies, the researchers found no fatal attacks attributed to any pit bulls at all.

Spitz and primitive dogs committed a significant minority of the attacks, mostly sled dog breeds (nine Husky breeds and five Malamutes), one Chow Chow and a Basenji.
Fatal herding and working breed attacks numbered sixteen, twelve German Shepherd attacks, two collie attacks, and two involving a Doberman pinscher.

There were multiple retriever attacks, including three Golden Retrievers and a Labrador, and two attacks by very small breeds: one Dachshund, and one Yorkshire Terrier, which is among the smallest of all dogs.

en.wikipedia.org

The real culprit of fatal dog attacks being irresponsible or cruel owners, not the dogs:

Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association: 2000-2009 study (continuing the Wikipedia article)

The most recent study of the epidemiology of fatal dog bites in the United States was published in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association in 2013. While earlier studies were based on television and newspaper reports, this was the first study to be based on law-enforcement reports, animal control reports, and investigator statements. It identified preventable factors in the fatal incidents. They found that the most common contributing factors were: absence of an able-bodied person to intervene, no familiar relationship of victims with dogs, owner failure to neuter dogs, compromised ability of victims to interact appropriately with dogs (e.g. mental disabilities), dogs kept isolated from regular positive human interactions versus family dogs (e.g. dogs kept chained in backyards), owners’ prior mismanagement of dogs, and owners’ history of abuse or neglect of dogs.

Furthermore, they found that in 80% of the incidents, 4 or more of the above factors co-occurred.

The authors found that in a significant number of DBRFs there was either a conflict between different media sources reporting breed and/or a conflict between media and animal control reports relative to the reporting of breed. For 401 dogs described in various media accounts of DBRFs, media sources reported conflicting breed attributions for 124 of the dogs (30.9%); and where there were media reports and an animal control report (346 dogs), there were conflicting breed attributions for 139 dogs (40.2%)

According to this study, reliable verification of the breed of dog was only possible in 18% of incidents.

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Kragar  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:48:28am

I got bored and made a thing

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Kragar  Jan 27, 2018 • 2:02:52am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 27, 2018 • 2:11:59am

A brief update on the Czech presidential elections; voting continues until 14:00 local time today and results should be known by late afternoon/early evening. According to local Czech media, there’s been quite high turnout, which usually (though not always) favors the challenger.

We shall see. Polls close in a little less than three hours from this posting.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 27, 2018 • 2:34:12am

So, I arrived in Hanoi smack in the middle of the Vietnam vs. Uzbekistan U23 match. Tied 1 all. Meaning pretty much everything here is at a standstill. The women setting up my SIM card, exchanging my money, the restaurant I am in now - everyone is glued to the TV.

But it’s a great game, so I’ll drink my beer and wait for food.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 27, 2018 • 2:34:29am

Maybe the GOP should change their mascot to a hyena.

The species has a largely negative reputation in African folklore. It is viewed as greedy, gluttonous, stupid, and foolish, yet powerful and potentially dangerous.

Youtube Video

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wheat-dogg  Jan 27, 2018 • 3:15:42am

This football match is continuing despite heavy snow.

Also, my food came.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 27, 2018 • 3:18:21am

re: #262 wheat-dogg

This football match is continuing despite heavy snow.

Also, my food came.

I take it they’re not playing in Viet Nam. ;)

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wheat-dogg  Jan 27, 2018 • 3:26:21am

And Uzbekistan wins it 2-1

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wheat-dogg  Jan 27, 2018 • 3:27:45am

No joy in Mudville tonight. The Red Devils have struck out. (To mix sports metaphors)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 27, 2018 • 3:39:36am

What’s going on in France? First it was Nutella riots, now it’s a mass baboon break-out.

Paris zoo shut after 50 baboons escape

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2018 • 3:43:08am

re: #266 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

What’s going on in France? First it was Nutella riots, now it’s a mass baboon break-out.

Paris zoo shut after 50 baboons escape

They are out scavenging for Nutella…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 27, 2018 • 3:51:15am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are out scavenging for Nutella…

Nutella riots? I didn’t hear about that one.

Nutella is not available here, I can only get it through mail-order. Maybe I should riot?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2018 • 3:56:08am

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹

Nutella riots? I didn’t hear about that one.

Nutella is not available here, I can only get it through mail-order. Maybe I should riot?

There is another treat that is only available over here - peanut flips: puffy, deep-fried peanut and cornmeal snacks.

My brother-in-law discovered dipping them in Nutella, a delicacy we came to dub “Reese’s Feces”.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 27, 2018 • 3:58:25am

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹

Nutella riots? I didn’t hear about that one.

Nutella is not available here, I can only get it through mail-order. Maybe I should riot?

littlegreenfootballs.com

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wheat-dogg  Jan 27, 2018 • 4:23:07am

All about gin, from Quartz obsession..email-tracking.qz.com

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wheat-dogg  Jan 27, 2018 • 4:24:48am

re: #266 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

What’s going on in France? First it was Nutella riots, now it’s a mass baboon break-out.

Paris zoo shut after 50 baboons escape

Probably some super-intelligent baboon giving the other 49 some ideas.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 27, 2018 • 4:26:01am

re: #271 wheat-dogg

All about gin, from Quartz obsession..email-tracking.qz.com

Enjoy your trip to Hanoi.

In the meantime, I need to hit the rack. Looking forward to a photologue of your adventures when you return home.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 27, 2018 • 4:26:12am

re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

These resemble bacteria in an electron micrograph.

Science nerd moment.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 27, 2018 • 4:32:35am

re: #271 wheat-dogg

Ah, gin and tonic. A sparkling water with an almost homeopathic level of flavors. Give me a bold rum that can make Coke cower in fear. I actually have fond memories of drinking gin and tonic.

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MsJ  Jan 27, 2018 • 4:35:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2018 • 4:47:17am

re: #275 Single-handed sailor

Ah, gin and tonic. A sparkling water with an almost homeopathic level of flavors. Give me a bold rum that can make Coke cower in fear. I actually have fond memories of drinking gin and tonic.

Especially on hot days in Arizona, sitting on the veranda and watching the summer thunderstorms roll in.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2018 • 4:47:51am

re: #276 MsJ

Ted Cruz is the son of a Cuban immigrant. But maybe when Cruz looks in the mirror, he sees a Norwegian

He gets Norwegian wood

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Decatur Deb  Jan 27, 2018 • 4:53:59am

re: #255 Anymouse 🌹

Saw that report or a similar one a few years ago. Seems our dog, a Great Pyr, was bred to kill bears or perhaps something as small as a wolf. No record of them killing anything as puny as a human. (Besides, that would be like turning on the wait-staff.)

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Decatur Deb  Jan 27, 2018 • 4:54:26am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He gets Norwegian wood

Isn’t it good?

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MsJ  Jan 27, 2018 • 4:59:24am
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MsJ  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:02:08am

I hate these fuckers more every day.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:07:15am

Gotta love it, up early, turn on MSNBC and it’s Hugh Spewitt talking about ANYTHING but the fact Trump tried to fire Mueller.

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MsJ  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:07:41am

Hmmmmm. Interesting thread.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:09:55am

re: #235 Dr Lizardo

I know the Czechoslovak StB (the local version of the KGB) had a file on Trump because of his marriage to Ivana (née Zelníčková).

Yeah they definitely would have even if he wasn’t a jerk.

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MsJ  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:14:54am

This is really sad.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:15:24am

re: #285 HappyWarrior

Yeah they definitely would have even if he wasn’t a jerk.

IIRC, they didn’t think too much of him. Basically, your typical “rich Western playboy” type. I would imagine such info would’ve been duly shared with their counterparts in the Lubyanka.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:16:22am

re: #276 MsJ

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He’s technically an immigrant himself too. When the term white privilege was coined, it was specifically for people like Cruz.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:17:07am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

IIRC, they didn’t think too much of him. Basically, your typical “rich Western playboy” type. I would imagine such info would’ve been duly shared with their counterparts in the Lubyanka.

Right, I brought up Berlin since Vladdy was stationed there.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:21:13am

And now for something completely beautiful.
This little film was shot in the villa owned and maintained by our village in N. Italy. (It was also used in Losey’s version of Don Juan.) In the late 1500’s, the villa was the village, now a group called a “pro loco”, a combination of town government agency and NGO, keeps it. The building is by Palladio, the frescoes mostly by Fasolo and Zellotti and perhaps a bit by their master Veronese.

The “Primavera” girl is by a most fortunate combination of genes.

Una sera in Villa Caldogno

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:28:48am

re: #284 MsJ

Hmmmmm. Interesting thread.

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He’s fine with immigrants as log as tehy’re willing to fuck him or mother him.

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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:29:46am

re: #134 Unshaken Defiance

William?

I ran across this playlist all Lizzie Hale

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Just saw this this morning - heck of a way to wake up with my cuppa tea :D

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jeffreyw  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:37:08am

Imgur


Good morning!

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:46:06am

re: #205 Stanley Sea

March 8-10.

I’m tired, you are up late & I’m glad!!!!

We’ll figure out something!

Dang, I will be there the following week.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:53:12am

re: #254 Kragar

Its the last thing Hannity tweeted about before his account disappeared.

I thought it was where you write down your safe word.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:53:22am

Well, voting is done here in the Czech Republic.

Now we wait. Probably another couple of hours at least before results are known.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:53:23am

Music is finally picking up against since I split with my fiddle-playing girlfriend and band mate in October of last year: a mini-tour in Finland in mid-Feb, gigs here on the Rhine later in Feb & in March and open-air session season at our favorite organic apple winery starts on May 1st and continues monthly all summer.

There’s reason to believe maybe this year will be better than the last

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Decatur Deb  Jan 27, 2018 • 5:55:35am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Music is finally picking up against since I split with my fiddle-playing girlfriend and band mate in October of last year: a mini-tour in Finland in mid-Feb, gigs here on the Rhine later in Feb & in March and open-air session season at our favorite organic apple winery starts on May 1st and continues monthly all summer.

There’s reason to believe maybe this year will be better than the last

Finland in Feb. Does this gig involve reindeer racing?

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MsJ  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:03:47am

re: #291 HappyWarrior

He’s fine with immigrants as log as tehy’re willing to fuck him or mother him.

#JobsAmericansReject

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:04:10am

re: #298 Decatur Deb

Finland in Feb. Does this gig involve reindeer racing?

no but there will be cross-country skiing, saunas and dipping in through a hole in the ice

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:04:17am

re: #299 MsJ

#JobsAmericansReject

Ha yes.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:05:45am

re: #265 wheat-dogg

No joy in Mudville tonight. The Red Devils have struck out. (To mix sports metaphors)

I thought South Korea were the Red Devils.

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MsJ  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:21:13am

Cat fight!

I look at Wallace the same way I do Krystal, Noonan and the others (poorly, very poorly). But…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:23:47am

re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

no but there will be cross-country skiing, saunas and dipping in through a hole in the ice

Your manager wants you dead.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:23:52am

re: #303 MsJ

Cat fight!

I look at Wallace the same way I do Krystal, Noonan and the others (poorly, very poorly). But…

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Rich considering you had it out for Obama from the get go.

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MsJ  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:24:03am

If it wasn’t for trump, every one of these unhappy Republicans would be on board with the GOP agenda that’s playing out right now.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:32:25am

re: #306 MsJ

If it wasn’t for trump, every one of these unhappy Republicans would be on board with the GOP agenda that’s playing out right now.

Certainly

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:37:47am

re: #283 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Gotta love it, up early, turn on MSNBC and it’s Hugh Spewitt talking about ANYTHING but the fact Trump tried to fire Mueller.

Hewitt is to the RepubliKKKlan Party as Vladimir Posner was to the Soviet Communist Party.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:50:35am

I bought a digit scale from Ocean State Joblots, I turned it on and it says: J:JJ

What does it mean!>!>!>?!?!?

What is annoying is that it doesn’t work. What is really annoying that I have to go return a $7 item.

I will show them, I will keep the four AA batteries.

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jeffreyw  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:54:21am

re: #309 Shropshire Slasher

I bought a digit scale from Ocean State Joblots, I turned it on and it says: J:JJ

What does it mean!>!>!>?!?!?

What is annoying is that it doesn’t work. What is really annoying that I have to go return a $7 item.

I will show them, I will keep the four AA batteries.

That’s the scale code for “batteries are low”.

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dangerman  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:57:20am

re: #310 jeffreyw

That’s the scale code for “batteries are low”.

It could be the code for “youre hurting me, lose weight”

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:59:04am

Looks like Putin’s toady in Prague Castle won re-election. Oh well. 51.87% to 48.16%.

Though to be honest, I’m not completely surprised. There’s a lot of xenophobia and ethno-nationalism here, and Zeman knows full well how to appeal to that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 6:59:54am

re: #312 Dr Lizardo

Looks like Putin’s toady in Prague Castle won re-election. Oh well. 51.87% to 48.16%.

Though to be honest, I’m not completely surprised. There’s a lot of xenophobia and ethno-nationalism here, and Zeman knows full well how to appeal to that.

Fuck. That’s disappointing.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:06:16am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

Fuck. That’s disappointing.

Yeah…..there’s also a lot of nostalgia for the “good old days” here too (i.e., communism). Zeman knows how to appeal to that as well.

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Fineday  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:07:37am

Meanwhile, all of Denmark is cheering our national darling, Caroline Wozniacki’s victory in the Australian Open, where she beat Rumania’s Simona Halep in three sets 6-7, 3-6, 6-4. First Grand Slam win for Caro, first Danish Grand Slam winner in history, and Caro is back at World’s # 1.

Well done, Caroline!
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:09:53am

re: #315 Fineday

Meanwhile, all of Denmark is cheering our national darling, Caroline Wozniacki’s victory in the Australian Open, where she beat Rumania’s Simona Halep in three sets 6-7, 3-6, 6-4. First Grand Slam win for Caro, first Danish Grand Slam winner in history, and Caro is back at World’s # 1.

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She’s amazing!

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:11:07am

re: #310 jeffreyw

That’s the scale code for “batteries are low”.

I tried, but nope. When tapped it will read 0:00, but thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:11:26am

re: #314 Dr Lizardo

Yeah…..there’s also a lot of nostalgia for the “good old days” here too (i.e., communism). Zeman knows how to appeal to that as well.

It’s ironic that in the former Eastern bloc, conservatives can sell the communist era as a plus. Sergey has talked about this a little before with the Communist Party of Russia retaining Marxist ideology but relying on Soviet nostalgia and social conservative ideology.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:12:10am

I’m gonna be in Slovakia this summer. Should read up on politics there.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:17:07am

re: #317 Shropshire Slasher

I tried, but nope. When tapped it will read 0:00, but thanks.

That’s the trade off of buying cheap at Ocean State Job Lot.

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jeffreyw  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:20:30am

re: #317 Shropshire Slasher

I tried, but nope. When tapped it will read 0:00, but thanks.

Did you tap out the Morse code for “J-J-J”? I’d try that.

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jeffreyw  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:21:09am
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Citizen K  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:24:08am

re: #282 MsJ

When I talk about just how quickly Trump has essentially destroyed or subverted our institutions, this is one of the things I’m talking about. The EPA has had its purpose completely flipped on its head entirely and has become an industry-enabling plundering outfit.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:26:41am

re: #323 Citizen K

When I talk about just how quickly Trump has essentially destroyed or subverted our institutions, this is one of the things I’m talking about. The EPA has had its purpose completely flipped on its head entirely and has become an industry-enabling plundering outfit.

Environmental Exploitation Agency.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:31:14am

re: #318 HappyWarrior

It’s ironic that in the former Eastern bloc, conservatives can sell the communist era as a plus. Sergey has talked about this a little before with the Communist Party of Russia retaining Marxist ideology but relying on Soviet nostalgia and social conservative ideology.

The local Communist Party (KSČM) is really hardcore socially conservative. If they were God-botherers, they’d feel right at home with the American fundy wingnuts.

Bizarro world here, LOL.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:31:37am

re: #322 jeffreyw

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Because they’re hypocrites.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:33:15am

re: #325 Dr Lizardo

The local Communist Party (KSČM) is really hardcore socially conservative. If they were God-botherers, they’d feel right at home with the American fundy wingnuts.

Bizarro world here, LOL.

I always point out to Castro fans or haters left and right that Fidel and many communist regimes were homophobic for example. Stalin was staunchly anti choice too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:34:05am

I think a lot of Americans don’t know also that the one child policy in China was implemented as China became more capitalist. It wasn’t Maoist in origin.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:36:09am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:36:26am

re: #329 FormerDirtDart

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Aww!

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Citizen K  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:44:51am

re: #324 Barefoot Grin

Environmental Exploitation Agency.

Environmental Plunder Agency.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 27, 2018 • 7:58:00am

re: #231 Single-handed sailor

I’m talking “domesticated” wolf vs bear. In the wild yeah, I agree.

A dog is actually a “domesticated” wolf. Anything else is still a wolf, even if it’s the result of decades of careful breeding.

An acquaintance of mine has talked about his father’s involvement in breeding and raising Doberman. He said that they were the best behaved dogs you would ever meet but he would never turn his back on one; they were quiet, and calm, but ultimately he felt totally untrustworthy.

OTOH I’ve known several pure-bred or Rottweiler mixes. Another breed that often inspires fear, but the ones I’ve been with just slobber over you and want you to pet them or throw their ball. For any breed, a lot depends on not just how they are raised but also their blood line. Some genes can make them truly dangerous, no matter how well they have been raised.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:02:22am

re: #323 Citizen K

When I talk about just how quickly Trump has essentially destroyed or subverted our institutions, this is one of the things I’m talking about. The EPA has had its purpose completely flipped on its head entirely and has become an industry-enabling plundering outfit.

Reagan was exactly the same with his appointments to environmental agencies. Trump may pose a unique danger to the future of this country but when it comes to the environment or to fiscal policies, he is indistinguishable from a standard Republican.

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Citizen K  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:03:03am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:06:08am

re: #334 Citizen K

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Warning about actual corruption + conspiracy mongreling. Sigh.

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ObserverArt  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:10:08am

re: #333 Hecuba’s daughter

Reagan was exactly the same with his appointments to environmental agencies. Trump may pose a unique danger to the future of this country but when it comes to the environment or to fiscal policies, he is indistinguishable from a standard Republican.

Keep in mind it was Nixon that started the EPA, and he was pretty good environmentally. Much of that came because he was at least aware that people were very interested in cleaning up the planet so he saw it as a way to please voters. Today they (conservatives) flat do not care.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:11:29am

Woot. They’re making a follow up series about the interwar period based off my favorite WWI docudrama. Loved the First World War One because they used primary sources of people of various nationalities so if the follow up is like this, it should be fascinating.

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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:14:32am

re: #332 Hecuba’s daughter

A dog is actually a “domesticated” wolf. Anything else is still a wolf, even if it’s the result of decades of careful breeding.

An acquaintance of mine has talked about his father’s involvement in breeding and raising Doberman. He said that they were the best behaved dogs you would ever meet but he would never turn his back on one; they were quiet, and calm, but ultimately he felt totally untrustworthy.

OTOH I’ve known several pure-bred or Rottweiler mixes. Another breed that often inspires fear, but the ones I’ve been with just slobber over you and want you to pet them or throw their ball. For any breed, a lot depends on not just how they are raised but also their blood line. Some genes can make them truly dangerous, no matter how well they have been raised.

I’m not a good one to talk about dogs. If a chain had been an inch or so longer, I’d have lost my face at ~5yo to a doberman and none of the other’s I’ve ever met were anything other but moving targets in my mind. (I have been know to snark that doberman’s are why God had us invent the 357 magnum…) I do try to keep an open mind, especially about ones that are more prone to training but there are some that I wish were not in general ownership.

Now if only the project to domesticate foxes would get to the point where they’re good safe pets, I’d be much happier ;)

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dangerman  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:23:35am

re: #329 FormerDirtDart

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“hey doc, can you get this guy off my ass”

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:31:57am
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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:32:56am
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Citizen K  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:37:32am
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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:39:26am

re: #134 Unshaken Defiance

William?

I ran across this playlist all Lizzie Hale

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I just saw this, thought you’d appreciate it. Others here might too so I’ll put it out in the open but put a PM blurb so you get the email to check the message :D

Shatter Me Featuring Lzzy Hale - Lindsey Stirling

Aj/4f2xotvE338K5lnxb0A==

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:52:51am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:57:33am

re: #342 Citizen K

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These people have no idea. Maybe if they actually left their red bubbles, they’d know that.

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Citizen K  Jan 27, 2018 • 8:59:06am

re: #344 jaunte

No, seriously, look at that front page.

That’s some straight up 1984 invocation there, done with terrifying, misguided earnestness.

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Citizen K  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:00:38am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

These people have no idea. Maybe if they actually left their red bubbles, they’d know that.

But at least half of them don’t leave their bubbles precisely because they don’t want to know. They’ve already decided that those ‘others’ are sub-human savages that need nothing less than purging, and how dare they venture out of their safe habitats to deal with ‘those’ kind of people when they know they’re right and just by virtue of whiteness?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:01:27am

re: #347 Citizen K

But at least half of them don’t leave their bubbles precisely because they don’t want to know. They’ve already decided that those ‘others’ are sub-human savages that need nothing less than purging, and how dare they venture out of their safe habitats to deal with ‘those’ kind of people when they know they’re right and just by virtue of whiteness?

That’s true as well. Sigh.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:05:33am
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Citizen K  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:17:49am

re: #346 Citizen K

Also to add on, regarding the Times’ quick descent into Trump apologism:

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:19:03am

re: #347 Citizen K

But at least half of them don’t leave their bubbles precisely because they don’t want to know. They’ve already decided that those ‘others’ are sub-human savages that need nothing less than purging, and how dare they venture out of their safe habitats to deal with ‘those’ kind of people when they know they’re right and just by virtue of whiteness?

And what really frightens them is that their bubble can’t keep the others out. It’s only a matter of time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:19:46am

still a moron

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dangerman  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:20:22am

re: #350 Citizen K

Also to add on, regarding the Times’ quick descent into Trump apologism:

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maybe a lot happened in those two minutes?

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:22:35am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Safety & Security” pitch to people who fancy themselves fiercely independent superheroes.

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ObserverArt  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:23:59am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

still a moron

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:29:12am

re: #343 William Lewis

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:30:04am

Yet another real life cartoon villain from the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:31:22am

re: #357 jaunte

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Yet another real life cartoon villain from the GOP.

Oh but Harvey Weinstein and those Hollywood elites.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:32:28am
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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:32:43am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:33:54am

re: #360 jaunte

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Rich considering how you’ve voted on relief for blue areas, Senator, fuck off.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:35:05am

Still no statement from the RNC on what’s the deal with Steve Wynn’s face?

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MsJ  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:35:31am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

Rich considering how you’ve voted on relief for blue areas, Senator, fuck off.

No shit! 😡😡😡😡

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:36:17am

re: #363 MsJ

No shit! 😡😡😡😡

He has no shame at all. None. Typical Republican pig. And I apologize to pigs.

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ObserverArt  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:36:41am

re: #357 jaunte

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Yet another real life cartoon villain from the GOP.

I’m thinking Cohen saying Wynn is a great man means on a scale of human decency Wynn is a -5 on a scale of 0 to 10.

Trumpers only associate with the worst of humanity.

Rich? yes. Evil pays handsomely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:37:43am

re: #355 ObserverArt

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:38:47am
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ObserverArt  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:39:25am

re: #362 jaunte

Still no statement from the RNC on what’s the deal with Steve Wynn’s face?

We had agreement here yesterday Wynn used the same cosmetic surgeon as Wayne Newton. In a way, they look like brothers. I guess that is the Vegas look. Gah.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:39:37am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:40:50am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:49:46am

LOLWUT?

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Targetpractice  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:50:45am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLWUT?

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1973 or 2018, you be the judge!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:52:32am
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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:52:59am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who’s “dropping” collusion?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:55:46am

re: #374 jaunte

Who’s “dropping” collusion?

A message designed for the elderly, the choir and the most willfully ignorant.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:57:06am
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ObserverArt  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:58:20am

I love how Fox and the idiots they have on know exactly what Mueller is up to.

Has hasn’t dropped anything. He hasn’t announced anything. Who knows, he could find collusion, obstruction, criminal racketeering and even treason for activities damaging to the USA.

Fox does not know. We do not know.

And by the way…it is not a Democratic investigation “Dersh.” It is Independent and run by a known Republican.

What do they pay you to recite such nonsense anyway?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 27, 2018 • 9:59:26am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:00:28am

re: #377 ObserverArt

The stories and leaks hard on Trump have largely held up as much as we can tell. The stories and leaks hard on the FBI and Mueller and the staff have largely proven false. Not once not just twice…

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ObserverArt  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:06:25am

re: #379 Unshaken Defiance

The stories and leaks hard on Trump have largely held up as much as we can tell. The stories and leaks hard on the FBI and Mueller and the staff have largely proven false. Not once not just twice…

And add in it seems Mueller is about 10 steps ahead of everyone. So, when Fox puts out a story it is already old and smelly. I think Mueller is very familiar with our media and is in his own way using them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:06:39am

re: #378 Joe Bacon 🌹

Turns out the big division in America isn’t between Left and Right. It’s between Racist and Not Racist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:06:44am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:09:16am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLWUT?

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Would you be saying this if Obama was President? Nope now fuck off.

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Targetpractice  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:23:20am

“Trump didn’t do those things! But even if he did, it’s totally lawful!”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:25:29am

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

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To be fair, they did say almost apologized which is exactly what that was, a bunch of feeble bullshit word salad.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:25:57am

re: #383 HappyWarrior

Would you be saying this if Obama was President? Nope now fuck off.

Let’s not forget how The Dersh sees nothing wrong with Dumbya’s torture policy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:26:20am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:27:39am

“Tucker’s better than that. At least he once was.”

What if I told you he never was better than that?
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wrenchwench  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:28:32am

All tweets now show up like only the deleted ones used to. And my Master Spy quits after it loads. Firefox’s latest 64 bit version. Problem started yesterday. Right around this time:

Coincidence? Is there any help for me?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:28:46am

re: #388 Blind Frog Belly White

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“Tucker’s better than that. At least he once was.”

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Heh seriously I remember Tucker bragging about assaukting a gay man. He’s always been a douche.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:29:26am

re: #388 Blind Frog Belly White

Real world evidence is going to tsunami Tucker.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:29:49am

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth
Damn Naziflakes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:31:22am

re: #392 HappyWarrior

Damn Naziflakes.

They get soft and unappetizing even before you pour on the milk.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:31:45am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:32:25am

re: #394 FormerDirtDart

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Something stinks big time with her campaign.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:32:30am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:36:43am

re: #396 FormerDirtDart

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Imagine my surprise.

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Citizen K  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:37:26am

re: #391 jaunte

Real world evidence is going to tsunami Tucker.

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That’s assuming that he can’t simply skate by in the alternate universe that Fox viewers and Trump voters have insulated themselves in with almost zero consequence.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:37:28am

As a Frenchie owner, I can honestly say it doesn’t get much better.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:39:55am

re: #396 FormerDirtDart

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Agh what a douche.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:40:21am

re: #389 wrenchwench

All tweets now show up like only the deleted ones used to. And my Master Spy quits after it loads. Firefox’s latest 64 bit version. Problem started yesterday. Right around this time:

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Coincidence? Is there any help for me?

I’ve been (sadly) having all sorts of problems with Firefox for the last several iterations. My solution is to use Chrome to look at LGF (and a few other problem sites). Bummer, I know.

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ObserverArt  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:41:19am

re: #399 Dave In Austin

As a Frenchie owner, I can honestly say it doesn’t get much better.

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That face. Way too cute. Love the robe and socks.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:41:44am
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:44:03am

re: #403 jaunte

I agree with Quinnipiac Trump is not good for anything.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:44:13am

Rocking the JOYous world…..

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:44:55am

re: #403 jaunte

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Yeah well Republicans are morons who will excuse anything for party.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:45:06am

Went back and checked on the ‘Vaccines will make you autistic!’ thread I mentioned the other day. People with no understanding of how evolution actually works claim that we evolved to fight those diseases.

Yeah, we did. And as a result, most of us survive them. That’s really about as much as evolution does. We are balanced on the knife edge between succumbing to infectious diseases on the one hand, and succumbing to autoimmune disease on the other. But that’s as a population, so there’s a spread, and a number of individuals DO die of either infectious or autoimmune disease.

Evolution protects you, but only imperfectly, and if the evolutionary dice come up snake eyes, not well enough.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:45:23am

re: #405 Dave In Austin

Rocking the JOYous world…..

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Better a democratic socialist than a racist pig like you Chuck.

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ckkatz  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:46:18am

re: #266 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

What’s going on in France? First it was Nutella riots, now it’s a mass baboon break-out.

Paris zoo shut after 50 baboons escape

And don’t forget that Paris is ‘In Seine’.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:50:24am

re: #409 ckkatz

And don’t forget that Paris is ‘In Seine’.

*groan*

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:53:01am

re: #398 Citizen K

That’s assuming that he can’t simply skate by in the alternate universe that Fox viewers and Trump voters have insulated themselves in with almost zero consequence.

Marcel Proust:

“The facts of life do not penetrate to the sphere in which our beliefs are cherished; they did not engender those beliefs, and they are powerless to destroy them.”

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:55:52am

The solution is not to convince Republicans, but to out-vote them.

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wrenchwench  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:57:25am

re: #401 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I’ve been (sadly) having all sorts of problems with Firefox for the last several iterations. My solution is to use Chrome to look at LGF (and a few other problem sites). Bummer, I know.

I am now here in Chrome. Spy is working. I am as disoriented as usual, instead of more so. Thanks!

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allegro  Jan 27, 2018 • 10:58:21am

So I wanted to make more homemade apple butter but dreaded all that apple peeling. Ordered a gizmo that just allowed me to peel, core, and slice a dozen apples in about 5 minutes. It is da bomb.

This has been your commercial break for Saturday.

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Interesting Times  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:04:31am

re: #414 allegro

So I wanted to make more homemade apple butter but dreaded all that apple peeling. Ordered a gizmo that just allowed me to peel, core, and slice a dozen apples in about 5 minutes. It is da bomb.

That’s ingenious! But could it still work on apples that are bumpy or misshapen? Asking because I have wild apple trees near my home (they’ve been kind of dormant the past few years, but I have such fond memories of the bumper crop they put out before that and the apple crisp I was able to make *sigh*)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:06:23am

re: #414 allegro

So I wanted to make more homemade apple butter but dreaded all that apple peeling. Ordered a gizmo that just allowed me to peel, core, and slice a dozen apples in about 5 minutes. It is da bomb.

This has been your commercial break for Saturday.

I’ve been doing this for years in kitchens for work. Works well with potatoes too. ;)

Peel an Apple with Power Drill in Few Seconds!

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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:08:17am

Who I’m backing for Congress in the gerrymandered ruby red #TX25.

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allegro  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:09:18am

re: #415 Interesting Times

That’s ingenious! But could it still work on apples that are bumpy or misshapen? Asking because I have wild apple trees near my home (they’ve been kind of dormant the past few years, but I have such fond memories of the bumper crop they put out before that and the apple crisp I was able to make *sigh*)

Dunno. The apples I got were all perfect and that was my maiden run with the thing. Certainly worth a try even if you have to trim a spot or two.

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allegro  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:10:51am

re: #416 GlutenFreeJesus

I’ve been doing this for years in kitchens for work. Works well with potatoes too. ;)

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That’s hilarious! Shades of Tool Guy.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:12:22am

re: #416 GlutenFreeJesus

Interesting.

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ckkatz  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:13:50am

re: #293 jeffreyw

Wow! That is an impressive number of cardinals. Looks like they had a very successful breeding season this past summer.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:17:16am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:19:38am

re: #422 jaunte

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Uh huh, that’s a great way of being a businessman, calling a chunk of your consumers stupid.

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ckkatz  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:19:54am

re: #422 jaunte

Hmm, time to consider, do I patronize Lowes? Ace? instead. Thoughts?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:20:21am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

Uh huh, that’s a great way of being a businessman, calling a chunk of your consumers stupid.

Bernie Marcus has been an asshole all of his miserable life.

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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:21:40am

re: #422 jaunte

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:21:49am

re: #422 jaunte

All of the companies paying bonuses - you know why they’re paying bonuses? 1) big check impresses people. 2) Doesn’t change base pay rate.

The latter is the more important point.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:22:11am

re: #424 ckkatz

He got rich selling substandard lumber. No wonder he despises his customers.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:22:36am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is how some business people are. The ideas are great but what is behind them is not so great.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:22:51am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bernie Marcus has been an asshole all of his miserable life.

I believe it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:26:17am

re: #422 jaunte

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:26:24am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:26:57am
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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:27:08am

Wynn quietly under bus, say three anonymous Rs.

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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:28:42am

re: #424 ckkatz

Hmm, time to consider, do I patronize Lowes? Ace? instead. Thoughts?

I don’t know of a single one of the chains that is not owned/operated by scum. Find a local firm and pay a little more instead.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:29:04am

re: #419 allegro

That’s hilarious! Shades of Tool Guy.

Saves so much time for my prep cooks to turn artichokes. lol

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Targetpractice  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:29:32am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The primaries don’t take place for another two years, but hey let’s game out how people who are willing to take part in a hypothetical poll would vote. I can’t see anybody drawing the wrong conclusions from the results.

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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:29:49am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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dangerman  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:29:56am

re: #405 Dave In Austin

Rocking the JOYous world…..

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What is #twitter pushing?

Chuck, that’s like asking what the post office is pushing cause they deliver the mail

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:30:18am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is good news for Joe Lieberman.

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Skip Intro  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:30:23am

re: #368 ObserverArt

We had agreement here yesterday Wynn used the same cosmetic surgeon as Wayne Newton. In a way, they look like brothers. I guess that is the Vegas look. Gah.

Same black shoe polish hair dye too.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:31:02am

re: #441 Skip Intro

Grecian Formula.

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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:31:11am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bernie Marcus has been an asshole all of his miserable life.

He’s probably angry that he can’t be as evil as John Menard Jr.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:32:14am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s called name recon, Jim. Ask 2004 nominee Joe Lieberman how leading in polls in 2002 got him.

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jeffreyw  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:32:35am

re: #421 ckkatz

We always have plenty!

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stpaulbear  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:32:53am

re: #435 William Lewis

I don’t know of a single one of the chains that is not owned/operated by scum. Find a local firm and pay a little more instead.

Menard’s owner is a conservative shitbag too. I had to stop at both Menard’s and Home Despot last weekend but I only spent a total of $16 between the two of them.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:33:05am

re: #440 jaunte

This is good news for Joe Lieberman.

Damn it dude!

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:33:44am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:34:31am

I’m not surprised Sanders and Biden lead at this point. They’re the two most well known potential candidates. However if our nomination comes down to seventy plus year old white guys, that’s not good.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:34:59am

So I guess all those Millennials and GenXers who hate the Boomers for destroying their lives by telling them The Big Chill was a great movie are going to go for someone OLDER THAN the already aged Boomers.

Great. That’ll show us.

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dangerman  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:35:27am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

Uh huh, that’s a great way of being a businessman, calling a chunk of your consumers stupid.

Never been in a hobby lobby or a Chick-fil-A
Now I’mma have to move to Lowe’s

It’s the only power I have

Good thing they’re convenient

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:36:17am

re: #441 Skip Intro

Same black shoe polish hair dye too.

It just looks so natural for a guy with spotty, tight-as-a-drum skin to have jet black hair with not a touch of gray or even any other color than jet black.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:37:42am

re: #450 Blind Frog Belly White

Nothing says “My generation is important!” like ignoring every politician of your generation.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:37:51am

re: #450 Blind Frog Belly White

So I guess all those Millennials and GenXers who hat the Boomers for destroying their lives by telling them The Big Chill was a great movie are going to go for someone OLDER THAN the already aged Boomers.

Great. That’ll show us.

Shit Bernie is old enough to be my grandfather and I’m 30. I’m not nominating a guy who will turn 80 his first year in office who has demonstrated poor delegation skills.

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dangerman  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:37:58am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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James, the primarys not being held today

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Nyet  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:39:52am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:40:05am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:40:10am

re: #453 Blind Frog Belly White

Nothing says “My generation is important!” like ignoring every politician of your generation.

My generation is weird. We love crusty old farts like Bernie and Ron Paul.

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plansbandc  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:40:35am

re: #422 jaunte

Buh- bye Homie Despot.

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ckkatz  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:40:43am

re: #435 William Lewis

I don’t know of a single one of the chains that is not owned/operated by scum. Find a local firm and pay a little more instead.

Fair enough. I know about Ayers Hardware in Arlington, Brown’s Hardware in Falls Church and McLean Hardware in, yup, McLean. I actually go to Ayers a good bit. The Stray Cat and Lost Dog Restaurants are across the street. (They reputedly donate some of their proceeds to various pet charities.) And I like their food.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:41:23am

re: #446 stpaulbear

Menard’s owner is a conservative shitbag too. I had to stop at both Menard’s and Home Despot last weekend but I only spent a total of $16 between the two of them.

I stopped shopping at Menards long ago because of that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:42:01am

re: #456 Nyet

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Agh. BTW Sergey I’m reading Rise and Fall finally. It makes me so incensed at denial. I’m looking forward to some lighter reading after this.

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dangerman  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:43:01am

I have such fat fingers every post is becoming a favorite before it gets an upding

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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:46:41am

re: #368 ObserverArt

When I was staying at the Riviera many years ago they had a barber on site that looked exactly liked Wayne Newton. God a damn nice single-bladed shave from him.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:48:37am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:48:43am
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A Mom Anon  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:49:01am

re: #443 William Lewis

I have mixed feelings about Marcus. He also funds The Marcus Institute at Emory University. This is where a lot of parents end up trying to get help for their kids as part of the diagnostic process for autism and other developmental issues. They’re also a clearinghouse for resources and information for people on the spectrum and their families. They do amazing work there. This was before other people stepped in to create resources for families like mine.

On the flip side, his politics are no secret to people around Atlanta, he’s also really anti union, and underpays his workers. But, for people like my family, without Home Depot, we could not have remodeled our house in an affordable way. And most of the businesses around here use their HD Supply Division to do everything from basic construction to plumbing, electric, and other stuff. Then we have local appliance and HVAC companies who use that same resource to get stuff for their local businesses. We have Lowes, but they often don’t have everything HD does. Or it’s more expensive. Ace Hardware is also on the pricey side without the selection, they are good for basic tools and supplies, but that’s it. The one near me is half full of local made garden ornaments and dog cookies, bird baths and solar garden lighting.

I am not defending Marcus, he’s a jerk, but most of the people working at his stores aren’t.

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:50:41am

re: #466 Dave In Austin

He’s being edgy.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:51:40am
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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:52:59am

re: #378 Joe Bacon 🌹

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ObserverArt  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:54:15am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bernie Marcus has been an asshole all of his miserable life.

But you can pay back utility bills and mortgage!!!

They wouldn’t be paying anything past due and in arrears if they were paid properly from the get-go Bernie.

Then maybe that $1000 could act like an actual bonus so it could be spent on something unexpected to make it…well, a bonus.

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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:54:41am

re: #388 Blind Frog Belly White

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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:54:59am

re: #468 Belafon

He’s being edgy.

No… I just won’t go there. I got to work tonite. Back to bed.

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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:57:00am

re: #394 FormerDirtDart

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ckkatz  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:57:33am

In the last day or so, Stonekettle has pointed with concern at the NSA. His most recent article raised the possibility that the domestic intelligence cited by Nunes came from an agency other than the FBI. Which, as I understand it, without a FISA order, would be illegal.

stonekettle.com

And then, there was an article noting that the NSA statement of mission has, without notice, been changed.

theintercept.com

The background is that Jim Wright is an experienced senior intelligence analyst who is intimately familiar with this area.

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ObserverArt  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:58:03am

re: #435 William Lewis

I don’t know of a single one of the chains that is not owned/operated by scum. Find a local firm and pay a little more instead.

As you would know being from Menard’s home state.

That guy is a real piece of work. I think he makes a guy like Bernie from Home Depot look good.

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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 11:59:08am

re: #405 Dave In Austin

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A Mom Anon  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:01:58pm

re: #477 The Major
Now now, be fair, lol, he currently shills, er, I mean promotes bullshit remedy “cures” on radio commercials……

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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:02:47pm

re: #457 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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meteor  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:03:33pm

re: #466 Dave In Austin

Eek

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:04:01pm

he remembered the Jews this year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:04:08pm

re: #481 Backwoods_Sleuth

he remembered the Jews this year.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:04:10pm

re: #477 The Major

[Embedded content]

Empty headed has-been game show host pushes empty jar guarantee for various quack cures…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:06:53pm

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Did Miller go with him to Davos?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:07:40pm

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Right now Davey Duke and Dickless Spencer are having a saaaaassddddd…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:07:45pm
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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:08:20pm

re: #483 Joe Bacon 🌹

Empty headed has-been game show host pushes empty jar guarantee for various quack cures…

Ah-yup. He’s as bad as Jim Bakker - while Bakker’s son, Jay, actually does some good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:08:51pm

re: #484 Blind Frog Belly White

Did Miller go with him to Davos?

I don’t know

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:10:24pm

re: #487 The Major

Ah-yup. He’s as bad as Jim Bakker - while Bakker’s son, Jay, actually does some good.

Wonder if Jay ever did the 23 & Me test…

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:10:55pm

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

3 days of Super High Intensity Training (S.H.I.T).

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:12:21pm

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:13:05pm

re: #476 ObserverArt

As you would know being from Menard’s home state. city.

That guy is a real piece of work. I think he makes a guy like Bernie from Home Depot look good.

Three quick shorts about him:
1) My FiL was an organizer for the United Brotherhood of Carpenters. John tried to kill him by running him over in front of the county Sheriff. Said Sheriff did nothing about it.
2) He has been known to suppress wages in the area by means of the classic “nice factory. Pity if something happened to it” means.
3) He financed his store expansions via insurance money from a fire that destroyed his first lumber yard shortly after increasing the amount of insurance coverage massively.

I could continue but you get the idea.

There are a large number of people here who will dance a jig on his grave when he goes back to the hell that spawned him.

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:14:09pm

re: #466 Dave In Austin

Wouldn’t put it past him:

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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:14:49pm

re: #489 Joe Bacon 🌹

At this stage, anyone doing a DNA test winds the risk of its data winding up in Law Enforcement databases..so I passed on doing mine, even tho I purchased it. Last work was 23 and me could get your records from various government entities - thank you, no…..

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:16:03pm

re: #494 The Major

At this stage, anyone doing a DNA test winds the risk of its data winding up in Law Enforcement databases..so I passed on doing mine, even tho I purchased it. Last work was 23 and me could get your records from various government entities - thank you, no…..

If they’re GETTING your information from various government agencies, then they’re looking at publicly available data.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:16:30pm

Fark has turned against Assange.

SBinRR: It has been five years, so I may not be remembering this correctly, but I swear Assange had a LOT more sympathy on here when he first went into the embassy.

That was before we knew he was a Russian agent who helped rig the election for Trump.

Aid an abet an act of war on my country to help install a incompetent psychopathic kompromat puppet in the White House, and yeah, I might just unfriend you.

I think that’s pretty reasonable.

fark.com

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sagehen  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:16:58pm

re: #466 Dave In Austin

[Embedded content]

adl.org

Within a few racist skinhead circles, white or red laces have to be “earned” by some violent act such as attacking a perceived enemy of the white race. However, most racist skinheads wear red or white shoelaces not because they have committed an act of violence but simply because it is part of their subculture.

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ObserverArt  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:18:50pm

re: #492 William Lewis

Three quick shorts about him:
1) My FiL was an organizer for the United Brotherhood of Carpenters. John tried to kill him by running him over in front of the county Sheriff. Said Sheriff did nothing about it.
2) He has been known to suppress wages in the area by means of the classic “nice factory. Pity if something happened to it” means.
3) He financed his store expansions via insurance money from a fire that destroyed his first lumber yard shortly after increasing the amount of insurance coverage massively.

I could continue but you get the idea.

There are a large number of people here who will dance a jig on his grave when he goes back to the hell that spawned him.

William, I know all about him. As I’ve said before, I know him from his racing team and racing sponsorships. I don’t have a link, but there was a web site years ago that had all his business moves documented. It was nuts. He is paranoid, cheap, and dangerous.

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ckkatz  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:19:14pm

re: #494 The Major

At this stage, anyone doing a DNA test winds the risk of its data winding up in Law Enforcement databases..so I passed on doing mine, even tho I purchased it. Last work was 23 and me could get your records from various government entities - thank you, no…..

Yup, once you are in a company’s database, you have lost any control over your personal information. Sold or stolen or surrendered under court order. And this kind of data has all sorts of uses. From Insurance companies deciding you are pre-disposed to some disease to personal identification by governmental (or non-governmental) organizations.

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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:20:04pm
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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:22:56pm

Just ran across this on Fark. Spread this as far and wide as possible….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:24:32pm

re: #501 The Major

We’ve seen it here before.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:24:56pm

re: #501 The Major

Yes. Spread it but also use it as a reminder.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:25:56pm

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

She’s just so CLUELESS. A white dress? Really?

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ObserverArt  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:26:49pm

re: #502 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

We’ve seen it here before.

No way an image like that gets by Charles. I think it got a story too.

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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:29:42pm

re: #505 ObserverArt

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:32:02pm

re: #504 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

She’s just so CLUELESS. A white dress? Really?

“Besides black clothing, in medieval Europe royalty would also wear white.”mysendoff.com

She’s the wife of a would-be medieval despot.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:32:12pm

re: #500 The Major

[Embedded content]

So why do you support federal anti abortion, federal anti gay laws, Jerry? You’re so full of shit that you make your Dad look like he had some integrity.

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meteor  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:32:20pm

re: #506 The Major

They’re aiding and abetting right out in public.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:33:01pm
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jaunte  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:43:19pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:49:15pm

re: #491 Belafon

[Embedded content]

He was busted only after he got kicked off the site for being an asshole to people.

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:52:59pm

re: #512 stpaulbear

He was busted only after he got kicked off the site for being an asshole to people.

Agreed. We just don’t know if he was successful. He could be such a loser that he attempted to cheat on his wife, but failed to find anyone willing.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:56:52pm

Did someone hack then close Hannity’s twitter account?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:57:50pm

re: #514 FormerDirtDart

Did someone hack then close Hannity’s twitter account?

[Embedded content]

Waaah.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 27, 2018 • 12:59:53pm

re: #434 jaunte

He looks like a cadaver.

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meteor  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:03:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:05:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:06:15pm
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meteor  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:06:53pm

Oh yes! Go Rep. Waters!

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allegro  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:09:14pm

re: #519 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Now THAT I will watch!

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allegro  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:09:58pm

re: #521 allegro

Now THAT I will watch!

Wait, on BET? That’s the only place?

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MsJ  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:10:53pm

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

That piece of shit in a yarmulke makes me want to vomit.

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dangerman  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:14:14pm

re: #492 William Lewis

Three quick shorts about him:
1) My FiL was an organizer for the United Brotherhood of Carpenters. John tried to kill him by running him over in front of the county Sheriff. Said Sheriff did nothing about it.
2) He has been known to suppress wages in the area by means of the classic “nice factory. Pity if something happened to it” means.
3) He financed his store expansions via insurance money from a fire that destroyed his first lumber yard shortly after increasing the amount of insurance coverage massively.

I could continue but you get the idea.

There are a large number of people here who will dance a jig on his grave when he goes back to the hell that spawned him.

3 is what we call a “successful fire”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:15:01pm
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dangerman  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:18:28pm

re: #522 allegro

Wait, on BET? That’s the only place?

I thought I read the official response would be by rep joe kennedy

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:18:52pm

re: #525 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

She should make half of them DACA people, and the other half Native Americans, and then we can have a discussion about immigration.

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Kragar  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:21:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:23:01pm

re: #525 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Go back to Cuba, Ted.

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The Major  Jan 27, 2018 • 1:42:31pm

re: #525 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 27, 2018 • 3:52:13pm

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

And Biden leads ACTUAL Democrats.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 27, 2018 • 4:02:57pm

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meanwhile wingnut gun humpers are convinced there are ISIS training camps all over rural America…..


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