Stephen Colbert: If Politicians Won’t Take Action, These High Schoolers Will
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There’s only one group Stephen thinks can actually defend the kids. And it is… the kids.
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The First Month of 2018 (real-time data as of 2/1):
-1,260 gun deaths
-2,308 gun injuries
-57 children shot/killed
-245 teenagers shot/killed
-132 incidents of defensive gun use
-163 unintentional shootings
-190 armed home invasions
-23 mass shootings
-25 officers shot/killed pic.twitter.com/BT4bsh3wl4— Gun Violence Archive (@GunDeaths) February 1, 2018
Of all the stupid things trump has done, I personally think pulling the U.S. out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership was the stupidest.
25 GOP senators urge Trump to restart TPP trade talks, a deal he called a ‘disaster’
re: #2 Scout
Of all the stupid things trump has done, I personally think pulling the U.S. out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership was the stupidest.
25 GOP senators urge Trump to restart TPP trade talks, a deal he called a ‘disaster’
It made perfect sense to them at the time, because they thought that the TPP would collapse without US participation and we’d just create something to take its place or negotiate unilateral deals with the other TPP parties.
What they didn’t count on was the other countries saying “We’re close enough to ratification that we don’t need the US” and pushing forward.
It made perfect sense to them at the time, because they thought that the TPP would collapse without US participation
I would respectfully disagree, or at least look at it through a slightly different lens: He did it because it appealed to his white nationalist base, in my humble opinion.
It’s the same with NAFTA, they loved him railing against it during the campaign because they thought it might scare Mexico and Canada into placating us with a more “fair” deal. Even when their own constituents (farmers, factory owners, hotels, etc) came to them with fears of what would happen if NAFTA were axed, they sent them away with assurances that Trump was going to get a “better” deal for them.
Now? Now they’re scared shitless because Donny is desperate for something to fire up his base and axing NAFTA to “stiggit” to Mexico has a certain appeal. But the governments of both countries have stated that if he does that, neither will be making a unilateral deal, there will either be NAFTA or nothing.
re: #4 Scout
I would respectfully disagree, or at least look at it through a slightly different lens: He did it because it appealed to his white nationalist base, in my humble opinion.
That was his motivation, and they agreed with it to a lesser extent because they and their rich donors figured it was a good plan. Either TPP would collapse and they’d just start negotiations on a “fairer” deal or the other countries involved would beg us to stay by offering to agree to our terms. He and they massively overestimated America’s influence as an economic power, thinking it’s still the 20th century and America can dictate terms as it likes.
re: #3 Targetpractice
It made perfect sense to them at the time, because they thought that the TPP would collapse without US participation and we’d just create something to take its place or negotiate unilateral deals with the other TPP parties.
That last part is what they thought. Same isolationist mentality that drove Brexit. Pre World War II thinking that totally ignores the fact that economy of scale works in trade relationships too, and that making shitty little one off deals here and there not only ends up compounding complexity and diplomatic overhead but leaves us fundamentally outside the new larger trading alliances that everyone else will lean on for leverage.
re: #7 goddamnedfrank
That last part is what they thought. Same isolationist mentality that drove Brexit. Pre World War II thinking that totally ignores the fact that the concept of economy of scale works in trade relationships too, and that making shitty little one off deals here and there not only ends up compounding complexity and diplomatic overhead but leaves us fundamentally outside the new larger trading alliances that everyone else will lean on for leverage.
Ayep. It’s an “a la carte” mentality: “We’ll just pick which countries we want to be associated with, just as we always have.” But a global economy doesn’t work that way, the more hoops a company has to jump through to get their product to store shelves, the less profit there is in it for them and the harder it is to compete against companies who don’t have those hoops. A shorter, pithier way to put it would be “Britain needs Europe to survive, but Europe doesn’t need Britain in the same way.”
These are good insights into the trump - TPP stupidity, but the deal was fundamentally about containing Chinese influence and expansion.
This is the primary reason why Japan worked so hard to keep it going even without the U.S. (And it was Japan who kept it going and bringing it to the signing stage.)
re: #9 Scout
These are good insights into the trump - TPP stupidity, but the deal was fundamentally about containing Chinese influence and expansion.
This is the primary reason why Japan worked so hard to keep it going even without the U.S. (And it was Japan who kept it going and bringing it to the signing stage.)
TPP, NAFTA, NATO, and other alliances/trade deals that are hurting the power and influence of countries that own Trump’s bloated ass. Sew discord with a mind towards weakening America’s influence and support network. Best money Vlad ever spent.
And I know I’m stating the obvious here but the worst part is that Trump quite obviously has NO idea what NAFTA or TPP even are. If pressed for details of his understanding of these trade deals he would completely whiff.
But this completely eludes his supporters. Some may realize it and just not care, but I honestly think the majority of the mouth breathers supporting Trump really think he knows what he’s talking about.
re: #3 Targetpractice
It made perfect sense to them at the time, because they thought that the TPP would collapse without US participation and we’d just create something to take its place or negotiate unilateral deals with the other TPP parties.
What they didn’t count on was the other countries saying “We’re close enough to ratification that we don’t need the US” and pushing forward.
Also: isn’t the TPP dynamic somewhat different now? Rather than being a part of the formation process, (and thus possibly able to influence the Partnership’s structure) wouldn’t the US now be looking to - basically - join a club that has already set itself up without us?
But yeah, stoking up gripes about “unfair trade deals” among the mouthbreather class is about the extent of Donald Trump’s trade “policy”, when it comes to actually doing stuff, he seem to be bent on proving himself about as useless as with every other aspect of his Presidency: Trump supposed “legendary deal-making” is useful in only one single context: selling his “brand” to line his own pockets. .
re: #11 Frenchy
And I know I’m stating the obvious here but the worst part is that Trump quite obviously has NO idea what NAFTA or TPP even are. If pressed for details of his understanding of these trade deals he would completely whiff.
But this completely eludes his supporters. Some may realize it and just not care, but I honestly think the majority of the mouth breathers supporting Trump really think he knows what he’s talking about.
I largely suspect that’s because Trump has left the management of his company to his underlings for ages now and brought that mentality to the White House. He fell into a real estate empire, he didn’t built it himself, and so he hasn’t needed to know how to do more than maintain what he already had. And we’ve seen so far that he’s shit at even doing that.
Greetings from a moderate-speed intercity train in China. We’re moving at 150kph (94 mph) between the provincial capital Changsha and another major city, Changde. The old train would have taken at least 6 hours. This one takes 4 to cover 280km/175 miles. The ride is smooth and quiet.
The USA has nothing like it, AFAIK.
Correction as I can’t edit my last comment.
Old train’s time 4.5 hrs
This train 3 hrs.
re: #14 wheat-dogg
Greetings from a moderate-speed intercity train in China. We’re moving at 150kph (94 mph) between the provincial capital Changsha and another major city, Changde. The old train would have taken at least 6 hours. This one takes 4 to cover 280km/175 miles. The ride is smooth and quiet.
The USA has nothing like it, AFAIK.
Compare that to the 48 hours it takes the Coast Starlight to go from Los Angeles to Seattle…
One more link about the TPP:
Wash. wheat growers call Trans-Pacific Partnership a ‘looming disaster’
From the story:
Squires said the TPP deal would gradually discount the tariff rate paid for imported Australian and Canadian wheat into Japan from about $150 a metric ton to $85 per metric ton, and would leave the U.S. import tariff unchanged.
“The Japanese love the quality and consistency of Pacific Northwest wheat and continue to buy our wheat despite its marginally higher price on the world market. But a $65 a ton disadvantage is just too much to overcome and would force them into the arms of our competitors,” Squires said.
I forgot to mention the ticket price.
$15 for second class seat
I forgot to mention the ticket price.
$15 for second class seat
Yeah, my guess is we’re not the problem. pic.twitter.com/uZqpCjmQtU
— The Deplorable Combat vet. (@StephenCardon10) February 21, 2018
He guessed wrong https://t.co/qdeUWz2ENg
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 21, 2018
re: #13 Targetpractice
When Trump has pressed a deal himself, he’s generally fucked it up massively by not having a clear picture of what’s possible, and instead going for “everything will be my way, shut up” while trying to complete slag competition.
Trump pushing the USFL to compete directly with the NFL was a fucking disaster. It took a league that might have marched on and did okay and tanked it. Trump Air fucked up in a different way, with Trump slagging other airlines as not safe while sell his service as ultra premium…which sounded good right up until one of his planes failed.
The way he presents TPP and NAFTA is a lot like what he pulled with USFL…anything less than total dominance is a failure, even if that makes no sense in the bigger picture or really isn’t a win.
Sorry about double post. I’m using my phone and 4G connection with no VPN on, so most of Charles’ tools don’t load.
re: #15 wheat-dogg
Correction as I can’t edit my last comment.
Old train’s time 4.5 hrs
This train 3 hrs.
That doesn’t seem all that impressive. The Acela goes from Boston to NY in about 3.5 hours and that’s like 230mi.
Aren’t there trains in Japan that go like 200mph. Now that is impressive
re: #17 Scout
One more link about the TPP:
Wash. wheat growers call Trans-Pacific Partnership a ‘looming disaster’
From the story:
Ayep, this isn’t 1955, America is not the “only game in town” and hasn’t been for at least a generation. We’re now one competitor in a sea of nations who have built or are building their own industries to compete with us. Just as we’re willing to accept something less than we’d like because it’s cheaper coming from China than the factories a couple states away, there are a lot of other countries who will see Aussie wheat as being “good enough” to buy than paying a premium for American wheat.
.re: #23 danarchy
True, but this is far better than what we had before. Besides, this service would like running Acela between NYC and Buffalo.
re: #23 danarchy
Aren’t there trains in Japan that go like 200mph. Now that is impressive
Shinkansen are among the things that make me love living in Japan.
China’s 200mph trains run between major cities, like Beijing, Shanghai and provincial capitals, and use brand-new stations. Those run on dedicated rights of way. This train also has its own ROW, but uses the older train stations, so its speed is less.
re: #18 wheat-dogg
I forgot to mention the ticket price.
$15 for second class seat
$15 won’t even pay for dinner on Amtrak. But the Dining Car food is very good!
There is some fucking idiot on my FB who is saying he has a picture of the Parkland kids smiling…in Stephen Paddocks hotel room.
I just can’t with these fucking people.
I think it may be time for a major campaign of non-violent, but otherwise aggressive, civil disobedience in this country. A major condition for this has been met in the form of the NRA’s legislative stranglehold: The authorities have been subverted and the normal channels for the appeal of grievance have been effectively blocked. Worse yet, this is being done against the will of a clear majority.
Such a campaign could seek to disrupt gun shows, NRA events, and gun related business events like stockholder and board meetings.
Needless to say, it would be extremely dangerous, possibly more dangerous than the civil rights campaigns of the 60s. Each participant will have to weigh that risk very carefully.
Apparently, Twitter banned thousands & thousands of Russian bot accounts tonight, and now all the Trump supporters are complaining that they’re being “censored” since many lost a majority of their following… 😂 #TwitterLockout
— William LeGate (@williamlegate) February 21, 2018
Seriously… checkout the hashtag yourself.
👉 #TwitterLockout 👈
They’re all flipping out over losing their followers, unknowingly admitting that a good portion of their following consisted of botnets & they’re already fabricating conspiracies of “censorship” to explain it lmao— William LeGate (@williamlegate) February 21, 2018
This is hilarious. I hope they purge the whole damn lot of them. There’s no way that Twitter can’t set algorithms to uncover Russian trolls. pic.twitter.com/f73nAUm6TA
— Rob J (@robjohnson1967) February 21, 2018
re: #31 JordanRules
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I haven’t lost any followers tonight so I at least I’m doing one thing right.
I feel a great disturbance in the derp, as if millions bots bleated out in terror and were suddenly silenced. #TwitterLockOut pic.twitter.com/WbSIRtgIen
— MC 555 nanometer Jesus (@goddamnedfrank) February 21, 2018
To the top of the page: I rejoice that it seems like a whole lot of kids are “all right about guns.” Unfortunately, there also seem to be plenty who are alt-right about guns.
The comrades come through again:
Noted Felonious Idiot Dinesh D’Souza attempts to mock teenagers in bizzare attempt to “seem cool” to those who view him as impotent sycophant. pic.twitter.com/Bhp8UBvRT3
— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) February 21, 2018
I am happy to report that a Democrat won another special election for a House seat in Kentucky, in a district in which Trump got 72% of the vote in 2016!
Man, this #TwitterLockout is devastating. I went from 2384 followers to…
2384 followers.
Hmm, I guess Russian bots weren’t following me. I wonder why? pic.twitter.com/GnbD4gdmfl— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 21, 2018
Apparently, there is a Cernovich sex tape somewhere out there, soon to be released
re: #22 wheat-dogg
Sorry about double post. I’m using my phone and 4G connection with no VPN on, so most of Charles’ tools don’t load.
Troubles.
I wish I was on a train in China.
re: #37 Kragar
The MAGA dolts really are dolts. Or very dishonest. Or both.
Do you need a safe space for you and your Russian bot friends, Snowflake? pic.twitter.com/bQr0DKTKnB
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 21, 2018
Then again, we’re a society composed of people desperate to escape reality.
For example, if I do a google search on “archeology”, for videos, picking say long duration videos, over a period of say the last month, a great many of the videos which make it through the search filters will be hack jobs, con-jobs, delusional nitwits on Youtube, etc.
Again I say, America is a nation built on religious fanaticism and peeling us away from our delusions is the source of so much angst that we see.
My favorite part of #TwitterLockOut?
All the morons screaming “CENSORSHIP!” pic.twitter.com/6jzOOLzCoW— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 21, 2018
re: #38 Kragar
All I’m saying is, that man looks like he a necrophilia-facilitation kit in his car.
Real talk.
A Run Lola Run sequel by Marvel where Franka Potente’s Lola is actually Longshot and she alters probability fields by screaming I WOULD WATCH THE SHIT OUT OF THAT MOVIE.
— MC 555 nanometer Jesus (@goddamnedfrank) February 21, 2018
“hidden truth”
“forbidden archeology”
“secrets of archeology”
“lost secrets of ancient civilizations”
“ancient aliens”
etc…..
This is what America spends its time viewing. It’s the alternative to conservative evangelical preaching, but both are really the same thing.
And Facebook…
The past few days have seen the re-emergence of all those stupid gun-memes about good-guys-with-guns are what is needed, that taking God out of the classroom is why there are school shootings, etc.
It’s all the same stupid JBS stuff coming around for the 5th decade now.
The Nazis. The Nazis are still the Nazis.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 21, 2018
re: #50 Ace-o-aces
The exact same assholes who have been Nazis all along. pic.twitter.com/A2u8Ehs0qW
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 21, 2018
The Nazis. The Nazis are still the Nazis.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 21, 2018
Ah yes, we all remember well when the Germans rampaged though Europe, making everyone verify their social media accounts via email. Truly a dark day in human history…..
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 21, 2018
re: #38 Kragar
Apparently, there is a Cernovich sex tape somewhere out there, soon to be released
That may well be, but it’s not unfair to say I could well pass the remainder of my days without feeling the need to see that.
If you think a bunch of Bot accounts getting deleted is “JUST LIKE WHAT THE NAZIS DID”, you need to pull your head out of your ass and read a god damn book more often. #TwitterLockOut
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 21, 2018
Also, on behalf of my family members who died in the Holocaust, go fuck yourself you fucking snowflake.
The Nazis killed 11 million people. Twitter asked a few thousand users to verify they’re not bots. You think that’s equivalent? Go eat shit you worthless fuckwit!— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 21, 2018
Getting people now who are saying “I lost most of my followers in the #TwitterLockOut Follow me?” pic.twitter.com/NO1RmEmFWJ
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 21, 2018
My thoughts & prayers are with all those affected by the #TwitterLockout. pic.twitter.com/pzuiAbJmlt
— William LeGate (@williamlegate) February 21, 2018
A close second for favorite part of #TwitterLockOut
The ones screaming “WE’RE NOT BOTS!”
Right, we see that, since you’re still on here, crying about how you lost your bot followers. pic.twitter.com/2C4woYuOdG— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 21, 2018
Very original.
— Fight4Freedom1776 (@miller21411988) February 21, 2018
As original as just deciding to make an account with a random string of numbers at the end?
Why DO so many conservative accounts seem to do that? Its very curious. https://t.co/hh0cT3iwYT— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 21, 2018
re: #26 Scout
Shinkansen are among the things that make me love living in Japan.
I miss the Shinkansen.
BTW, NHK has a show on Japanese railroads, in English. Most recent shows are available on demand.
Here is one on the standard diesel engine:
re: #63 Targetpractice
He blocked me, but I had another pop up.
I swear I typed this before I saw your post
Thanks for revealing your Nazi urges to censor people.
— Michaelforce (@Angelforce900) February 21, 2018
Shouldn’t you be over on Gab asking if anyone there has seen Kyle? https://t.co/bzNOsYPJTt
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 21, 2018
#TwitterLockOut in real-time. 🤣 pic.twitter.com/jEegIg2fUH
— Phil (@fishbulb18) February 21, 2018
re: #52 Ace-o-aces
Fight4Freedom1776: “YOU’RE JUST LIKE THE NAZIS COLLECTING THE NAMES OF JEWS TO SEND OFF TO THE GAS CHAMBERS!!!!”
UPS guy: “Sir, I just need you to sign for this package”.— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 21, 2018
I am in actual tears right now, reading through #TwitterLockOut right now. Just the number of “alpha males” whining that their e-penises have shrunk because of Russian bots being banned is fucking hilarious. I’ve never seen a bigger bunch of babies cry over how they’re being “persecuted” because they’ve come to realize they’re only talking to themselves.
Nope, I owe Soros and the Jewluminatti another hour or so of mocking whiny punk asses for losing their Russian bot followers in the #TwitterLockOut
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 21, 2018
Initial reports indicate the #TwitterLockOut resulted in the greatest loss of life since The Bowling Green Massacre.
— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) February 21, 2018
Because a potential gun regulation is exactly the same as the Holocaust. And conservatives call us snowflakes. Seriously, WTF? (I’m told that the original company that sold these on the Internet has now removed them.)
You. Have. Got. To. Be. Shitting. Me. pic.twitter.com/TK2Etc0GdU
— badly drawn bee 🐝 (@soapachu) February 19, 2018
re: #14 wheat-dogg
Greetings from a moderate-speed intercity train in China. We’re moving at 150kph (94 mph) between the provincial capital Changsha and another major city, Changde. The old train would have taken at least 6 hours. This one takes 4 to cover 280km/175 miles. The ride is smooth and quiet.
The USA has nothing like it, AFAIK.
Germany does. And China has it because they stole the technology from Germany…
re: #48 freetoken
“hidden truth”
“forbidden archeology”
“secrets of archeology”
“lost secrets of ancient civilizations”
“ancient aliens”etc…..
This is what America spends its time viewing. It’s the alternative to conservative evangelical preaching, but both are really the same thing.
I remember being big into Erich von Däniken when his books were all the rage at the turn of the 70’s. I grew out of it when I learned that there is a large body of scholarly research that offers a well founded and rational explanation of what he was presenting as ancient aliens.
But modern America has little use of elitist experts.
re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Germany does. And China has it because they stole the technology from Germany…
My wife and I took the high speed train First Class from Berlin, Germany to Gdansk, Poland. We were the only Americans on the train, so at the border when the crew changed from Germans to Polish, the Polish crew spent a lot of time with us asking questions and practicing English (it helps my wife speaks Polish).
The train car has a speedometer in the front of the car, which usually showed us traveling in excess of 160 k/h. Tough to take pictures from a train moving that fast, though I did get a few.
Unfortunately, Russian bots and general rodent copulators will be back … Twitter doing this one time isn’t really going to change much. Still, some of the comments are pretty funny on that hashtag:
Okay, fellow #SecretSociety members. #TwitterLockOut looks to be a huge success. We’ll move on to the next topic on the agenda at the meeting on Saturday. Who’s bringing snacks?
— *eye roll* (@ChileeePlease) February 21, 2018
#thoughtsandprayers RIP bots
Please don’t politicize these deaths. It’s too soon to talk about #TwitterLockOut pic.twitter.com/DZqP3H8riH— Lisa G💜 (@LisaG724) February 21, 2018
re: #50 Ace-o-aces
Who are the Nazis now?
This guy.
This POS just showed up in a FB comment, worth mentioning here
Because gun owners are among the most persecuted groups in the world.
“First they came for my AR-15s and bump stocks…”
re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I showed that in comment #71. That said, allegedly the company that was selling those on the Internet pulled them from their site.
re: #71 Anymouse 🌹
Because a potential gun regulation is exactly the same as the Holocaust. And conservatives call us snowflakes. Seriously, WTF? (I’m told that the original company that sold these on the Internet has now removed them.)
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I see you beat me to that one.
yes, a standard straw-man argument.
nobody is advocating a repeal of the 2A or confiscation, but a group of young victims is now actively pushing for sensible legislation to reduce the amount of violent gun crime and mass shootings.
“I’m a law-abiding citizen! There’s no need to fear me because I would never break the law. Now excuse me while I install this bump-stock on my AR-15 so’s I can get around those pesky laws that keep me from owning a real M-16.”
After George and Amal Clooney put up $500,000 to help defray costs for the “March for Our Lives,” several other celebrities and other wealthy people have stepped up to make matching donations.
Those “high school kids coached by Democrats” has me wondering how reflexive this is. I wonder how many “young republican” type groups there are out there started and funded by Republican think tanks. I’d be willing to be there are many more than there are Dem equivalents.
When is the next secret society meeting to discuss Phase 2 of the #TwitterLockOut?
— Juan P.E. ❄️ 🇵🇷 (@jrivera64) February 21, 2018
Dang it. I didn’t get their text. I think I need a new ObamaPhone.
— Juan P.E. ❄️ 🇵🇷 (@jrivera64) February 21, 2018
The Lubbock Derpocalypse is starting to look like tertiary syphilis. You folk in the Dakotas, Nebraska, etc. will need to screen for this when you’re vetting water refugees.
I lost over 700 followers today …. @Twitter is on a conservative/Vet purge! #NotARussianBot#TwitterLockOut pic.twitter.com/PmV8JAXev6
— Jeff 🇺🇸 (@Chaos2Raptor) February 21, 2018
AFAIK, Twitter is still a bastion of Free Enterprise, and all you poor, offended posters are free to start your own conservative-friendly network!
re: #84 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
The Lubbock Derpocalypse is starting to look like tertiary syphilis. You folk in the Dakotas, Nebraska, etc. will need to screen for this when you’re vetting water refugees.
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“We’re going to cut $500 million from women’s health programs to put into education budgets.”
“Oh, so our schools can hire more teachers, upgrade our equipment, expand our schools, and overall create a better learning environment for the next generation?”
“HAHAHAHAhahaha…no. No, we’re putting that money into armed guards who we’ll end up firing in 2-3 years time as ‘gold-brickers’ who are a waste of taxpayer dollars so we can look like ‘fiscal conservatives’ for cutting $500 million from the state budget.”
re: #84 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
The Lubbock Derpocalypse is starting to look like tertiary syphilis. You folk in the Dakotas, Nebraska, etc. will need to screen for this when you’re vetting water refugees.
So much stupid in such a small comment. I presume he’s talking about Parkland, which had armed police. As for Planned Parenthood, that’s the standard conservative politician talking point. They’re lying and they know it; the point is to sway voters who don’t know any better that Planned Parenthood’s money is payment for legal services (which should include abortion but does not because of the Hyde Amendment).
It is specifically directed at low-information religious voters.
I’m not sure what we can do for extreme vetting when Texas finally becomes a desert and their refugees stream north into our state. (Kansas and Oklahoma already have the same problem.)
The only real answer to such a Gish Gallop in such as short statement from that guy from Lubbock is to just call him what he is, in public: You sir, are a liar and you know it.
re: #89 Anymouse 🌹
The only real answer to such a Gish Gallop in such as short statement from that guy from Lubbock is to just call him what he is, in public: You sir, are a liar and you know it.
He answers to a Higher Truth
I lost over 700 followers today …. @Twitter is on a conservative/Vet purge! #NotARussianBot#TwitterLockOut pic.twitter.com/PmV8JAXev6
— Jeff 🇺🇸 (@Chaos2Raptor) February 21, 2018
This idiot “liked” my #thoughtsandprayers tweet:
I lost over 700 followers today …. @Twitter is on a conservative/Vet purge! #NotARussianBot#TwitterLockOut pic.twitter.com/PmV8JAXev6
— Jeff 🇺🇸 (@Chaos2Raptor) February 21, 2018
I’m sorry, you seem to think I was being serious. Let me be more clear.TWITTER CLEARING OUT SOME BOT ACCOUNTS IS NOT THE SAME AS THE HOLOCAUST YOU SELF-ABSORBED SNOWFLAKE DIPSHIT!
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 21, 2018
re: #93 Ace-o-aces
TWITTER CLEARING OUT SOME BOT ACCOUNTS IS NOT THE SAME AS THE HOLOCAUST YOU SELF-ABSORBED SNOWFLAKE DIPSHIT!
I can only guess that we are dealing with people whose sense of self-worth is based on the number of Twitter followers they can claim.
Here’s a dog realizing you can stand in a pool. pic.twitter.com/qoRMw3Qy66
— Baby Puppies (@BabyPuppies) February 17, 2018
Holy crap, conservaTwitter is chock full of drama queens tonight.
And dingbat below, Jack Dorsey is a Libertarian, not a liberal. Fallacy of illicit contraposition (not to be confused with the Reagan Administration). Everyone who is not a conservative is not necessarily a liberal.
What Twitter needs is a direct direct competitor. Not @Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat but basically the same thing not controlled by liberal socialistic communistic activists. Facebook needs the same type of competition. @Iochev9763 @Ecapps12 @Twitter #twitterlockout
— FunVa (@FunVA_OpEd) February 21, 2018
Wonkette notes that they did not get a nightly post about earning a Range Rover from “Lori” by working at home spam in the comments tonight.
They suspect Lori might have been a victim of the TwitterLockOut.
Another Wonkette comment (LOL)
These aren’t real right wing Tweeters upset about losing their fake followers they’re clearly crisis actors.
What happens when Donald Trump finds most of his followers are gone? He is going to explode on Twitter (if he pays attention to those numbers).
re: #100 Anymouse 🌹
What happens when Donald Trump finds most of his followers are gone? He is going to explode on Twitter (if he pays attention to those numbers).
talk about someone whose self-esteem is directly related to the number of Twitter followers he can boast…
Woman behind pro-Trump Facebook page denies being influenced by Russians (goes to The Hill)
A woman who ran a pro-Donald Trump Facebook group that promoted events during the 2016 election that have since been linked to Russia denied in a new interview that she was influenced by Russian trolls.
“I don’t go with Russians, c’mon, give me a break,” Florine Gruen Goldfarb told CNN when asked about her group amplifying events planned by Russians.
Goldfarb runs a Facebook page called “Team Trump Broward County.” According to CNN, the page shared multiple events that were planned by Russians during the 2016 election, as well as posting photos and videos from one of the events after it concluded.
Goldfarb denied any Russian influence, telling the network that the people who attended the events were simply supporters of then-candidate Trump.
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I’m off to bed … water tests in a few hours and it’s frickin’ cold now (-2F).
Perhaps the conservatives over at TwitterLockOut could use some Emergency Kittens to assuage their grief?
See mom, I told you there was a red dot! pic.twitter.com/sw85hi3C9Y
— Emergency Kittens (@EmrgencyKittens) February 14, 2018
Twitter Gulag, now Nazi Twitter lockout. These people are obsessed, and as Libertarian FunVa expressed, they can just start their own conservative and bot-friendly platform.
Some fans of speed skating pursuit competition:
パシュート。 pic.twitter.com/ft2K1JsDgp
— ぱんだこ (@wan_mimi) February 21, 2018
Just getting moving here. I’m seeing something now in this Verse….. What is #TwitterLockOut?
Sucks to be you right now, doesn’t it - especially when history is on their side? You obviously forgot when pictures of the The Black Panthers back in the 1960s wielding AR-15s got the attention of then Gov. Ronald Reagan he got assault weapons banned,… pic.twitter.com/suhQPjIL8E
— TheMajor (@TheMajorsViews) February 21, 2018
BTW: Where is your evidence for all of these assertions, you tool?
— TheMajor (@TheMajorsViews) February 21, 2018
Daily Wire is now claiming Twitter employees admitted to “censoring” conservatives for political reasons.
BOMBSHELL REPORT: Twitter Employees Admit To Censoring Conservatives, Banning Them For Political Reasons | Daily Wire https://t.co/hoZ1COuVrW#TwitterLockOut
— Jill 🇺🇸 (@ItsJustJill) February 21, 2018
re: #106 Dave In Austin
Whining over the removal of bot accounts. It’s a conspiracy to stifle conservatives and their first amendment rights to freeze peaches or something….it’s hard to hear over all the sniveling and crying.
re: #108 Anymouse 🌹
Daily Wire is now claiming Twitter employees admitted to “censoring” conservatives for political reasons.
Ain’t Free Enterprise grand? Private companies can ban people for their political affiliations!
re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Ain’t Free Enterprise grand? Private companies can ban people for their political affiliations!
Except they are not banning anyone over political affiliations.
This reads like the Fifties John Birch Society. Everything is some sort of a liberal socialist commie conspiracy to shut down the free speech of Real Americans (sm).
Conservative thought was broken long before I was born.
re: #111 Anymouse 🌹
Except they are not banning anyone over political affiliations.
This reads like the Fifties John Birch Society. Everything is some sort of a liberal socialist commie conspiracy to shut down the free speech of Real Americans (sm).
Conservative thought was broken long before I was born.
I am aware of that and that this is all a straw-man argument and a storm in a tea cup, but even if that were the case, it would be a case of a private company being selective.
They cannot discriminate on the grounds of race, religious affiliation or sexual orientation, but as far as I know, political speech is not covered in the same way
LOL
I’ve lost zero followers in the wake of #TwitterLockout so I guess those are *actual people* who want me to invest in their real estate ventures and porn.
— Tara Rose (@RareOats) February 21, 2018
re: #108 Anymouse 🌹
Daily Wire is now claiming Twitter employees admitted to “censoring” conservatives for political reasons.
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— Jill 🇺🇸 (@ItsJustJill) February 21, 2018
re: #114 bill d. (b.d.)
James O’Keefe’s name is on it. Hence, ‘tis bullshit.
re: #38 Kragar
Apparently, there is a Cernovich sex tape somewhere out there, soon to be released
If we send a Western Union money order to a Wells Fargo account, do they promise not to release it?
re: #115 A Mom Anon
James O’Keefe’s name is on it. Hence, ‘tis bullshit.
Guess he has to generate his CPAC buzz, it’s a grifters goldmine after all.
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has dropped a lawsuit against a lender that was allegedly charging interest rates up to 950%.
The case had taken CFPB staffers years to establish—but Mick Mulvaney instructed staffers to drop the suit, NPR reports. https://t.co/gb2nTsgmkw— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) February 21, 2018
Kept every last one of both my great followers and the great folks I’m following… guess I must be doing something right!
— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) February 21, 2018
BREAKING: Famed evangelist preacher Billy Graham has died at age 99, Billy Graham Evangelistic Association tell @NBCNews - https://t.co/kdrUxk2XiK pic.twitter.com/bejARygSVD
— NBC News (@NBCNews) February 21, 2018
The NRA has accepted CNN’s invitation to participate in a nationally televised town hall tonight at 9 ET with students, parents and community members who were affected by last week’s Florida school shooting https://t.co/eDoYDxArUD pic.twitter.com/FjkOU93y3E
— CNN (@CNN) February 21, 2018
re: #118 Dave In Austin
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This guy is right up there for a place on the Mt. POS memorial.
re: #120 JordanRules
I’m going to say it. This man helped America and the world be a better place. Regardless of the evangelism, he helped countless lives around the globe. Most of that work is bygone, some remains. Frank has screwed the pooch with blind allegiance to Caesar and the money changers dragging his fawning masses with him.
Really, a tragedy.
Morning Lizards.
T-40 minutes until Falcon 9 launch of PAZ. Pending weather balloon data, launch webcast will go live about 15 minutes before liftoff → https://t.co/gtC39uBC7z
— SpaceX (@SpaceX) February 21, 2018
Hey @billmaher just a heads up: after his attacks on the Stoneman Douglas HS kids, any future Real Time show that has .@JackKingston on as a guest will be a show I’ll tune out.
Which will be a first since I started watching in 2005. #ProbablyNowhereNearTheOnlyOne #ScrewHimBigly— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) February 21, 2018
An Alabama cop has been killed in a 2-hour standoff. Sounds like he was one of the good ones.
“We need to go back to helping people instead of just taking them to jail and creating bigger problems. That’s my ideal of good policing and I feel like that’s what the chief is working towards.”
re: #120 JordanRules
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My head just exploded:
In an astonishing development, Gallup no longer considers Texas a Republican state.
We hear the call and we are mobilizing. pic.twitter.com/xki1DIOj1I— Hosseh Enad (@ehosseh) February 20, 2018
Then I put it back together so that I can help candidates this fall.
Thanks Donald.
As homeless camps explode in L.A. suburbs, residents fear they will become permanent
The situation has alarmed Los Angeles County health officials, who fear the growing encampments are ripe for public health outbreaks, notably hepatitis A, which caused numerous deaths in San Diego’s homeless community.
So the county has placed toilets, sinks and other supplies at this encampment in West Carson, as well as at those in unincorporated areas of Pico Rivera, East Rancho Dominguez and Pearblossom.
But the move has troubled some nearby residents, who fear the county’s action will make what they hoped would be temporary camps permanent
Budget Cuts, Tax cuts and more, so billionaire Mar A Lago buddies will like him.
Damn.
High altitude wind shear data shows a probable 2% load exceedance. Small, but better to be paranoid. Postponing launch to tomorrow, assuming winds are better then.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 21, 2018
re: #129 Belafon
Hmm. PA is grey. That would explain why my ward leader is concentrating on local elections.
re: #131 Bubblehead II
Crap.
Putting long lens and camera away for the day.
re: #2 Scout
Of all the stupid things trump has done, I personally think pulling the U.S. out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership was the stupidest.
25 GOP senators urge Trump to restart TPP trade talks, a deal he called a ‘disaster’
Do we all have collective amnesia here? Trump attacked TPP from the “faux” populist right but Bernie was attacking it from the populist left. It was Bernie’s attacks that forced Hillary to come out against it. Of course, both Trump and Bernie may just have been reflecting the opinion of their Russian overlords. In any case, TPP had become toxic and anyone running could not be seen in favor of this treaty. I assume that Hillary would have figured out some way to preserve it, but it was not a winning political strategy to support this policy during the campaign
re: #114 bill d. (b.d.)
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re: #134 Hecuba’s daughter
He has reneged on plenty of campaign stuff. He still did it because of who he is and how he sees deal-making.
re: #120 JordanRules
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re: #130 Unshaken Defiance
Thanks Donald.
Budget Cuts, Tax cuts and more, so billionaire Mar A Lago Buddies will like him.
Another legacy of Prop 13…
re: #131 Bubblehead II
He does make is personal doesn’t he?
re: #138 Joe Bacon 🌹
That presumes the extra revenue would go there. Facts not in evidence my friend.
re: #140 Dave In Austin
He does make is personal doesn’t he?
Yep. He is passionate about commercial space flight.
re: #129 Belafon
In an astonishing development, Gallup no longer considers Texas a Republican state.
If they can mobilize the now highly motivated Latino vote, they have a chance of getting Texas back into the Blue.
re: #121 JordanRules
I believe it’s Dana who will be there.
*spit*
The Parkland students are recovering from trauma and have only been studying gun policy for a week. Is it really necessary for @CNN to pit them against a vicious, dishonest and radicalized @NRA lobbyist? https://t.co/mbGnYf7MbY
— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) February 21, 2018
re: #144 JordanRules
I believe it’s Dana who will be there.
*spit*
Oh I’m sure Dana will come across as reasonable and compassionate.
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re: #144 JordanRules
I believe it’s Dana who will be there.
*spit*
Maybe someone can get Shannon on the show as well.
re: #144 JordanRules
Good point, but from a few interviews I have seen these kids are alright. They did not get distracted or baited. On point, from an unassailable witness point of view.
re: #145 Sir John Barron
Oh I’m sure Dana will come across as reasonable and compassionate.
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Eeek.
For someone who rages against the media, Lorsch has no problem using it to promote her agenda.
Weird typos aside the president is again demanding that the justice department prosecute his political enemies. pic.twitter.com/tZpJ45IhGx
— T’Challah 🍝 (@AdamSerwer) February 21, 2018
re: #144 JordanRules
I believe it’s Dana who will be there.
she will try to distract the young men by flashing her tits at them…
re: #145 Sir John Barron
Oh I’m sure Dana will come across as reasonable and compassionate.
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If she comes off 1/10 as abrasive as she does in those TV spots, she won’t help the NRA’s position at all and will make the kids look even more reasonable.
I’m hoping the catty, nasty Dana shows up. She’s pretty easy to hate.
re: #147 Unshaken Defiance
Good point, but from a few interviews I have seen these kids are alright. They did not get distracted or baited. On point, from an unassailable witness point of view.
I wonder how many of them are on the debate team at their school?
re: #151 JordanRules
Russia had the Obama administration over a barrel: if they had pursued Russian meddling to aggressively before the election, that in itself could have been construed as “meddling”.
The US electoral and political system left itself wide open and vulnerable to meddling, with or without active assistance from the Trump campaign: they were fools not to take advantage of it.
When nine black teenagers integrated Central High School in Little Rock, many segregationists insisted they were paid protesters who had been imported from other states. pic.twitter.com/l6yDPNzChS
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) February 21, 2018
re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Russia had the Obama administration over a barrel: if they had pursued Russian meddling to aggressively before the election, that in itself could have been construed as “meddling”.
The US electoral and political system left itself wide open and vulnerable to meddling, with or without active assistance from the Trump campaign: they were fools not to take advantage of it.
And they were traitors for doing it, because the correct thing to do was expose it.
re: #134 Hecuba’s daughter
Do we all have collective amnesia here? Trump attacked TPP from the “faux” populist right but Bernie was attacking it from the populist left. It was Bernie’s attacks that forced Hillary to come out against it. Of course, both Trump and Bernie may just have been reflecting the opinion of their Russian overlords. In any case, TPP had become toxic and anyone running could not be seen in favor of this treaty. I assume that Hillary would have figured out some way to preserve it, but it was not a winning political strategy to support this policy during the campaign
Yep, and I’ve been very critical here of HRC for folding, too. She could have stood up to Bernie. It’s an open question of whether the media would have buried or amplified her voice, but it turns out that a whole range of GOP-voting folks—especially farmers—would have needed little convincing to understand the benefits of TPP and consistent line on NAFTA.
re: #158 Barefoot Grin
Bernie frankly is as ignorant on trade as Trump is.
re: #158 Barefoot Grin
Yep, and I’ve been very critical here of HRC for folding, too. She could have stood up to Bernie. It’s an open question of whether the media would have buried or amplified her voice, but it turns out that a whole range of GOP-voting folks—especially farmers—would have needed little convincing to understand the benefits of TPP and consistent line on NAFTA.
TPP was a tough sell on the left as well. It was complex, especially since it was a diplomatic treaty wrapped in an economic one. It wasn’t all that popular, and I’m pretty sure if Clinton had tried to explain it, CNN would have shown Trump’s podium.
re: #157 Belafon
And they were traitors for doing it, because the correct thing to do was expose it.
Mueller is building a case that they actively participated in it.
re: #141 Unshaken Defiance
That presumes the extra revenue would go there. Facts not in evidence my friend.
Yes because we know who the big winners really were in Prop.13—Pacific Bell and the Bank of America!
Both got the biggest windfalls in that disastrous tax cut!
re: #161 Belafon
TPP was a tough sell on the left as well. It was complex, especially since it was a diplomatic treaty wrapped in an economic one. It wasn’t all that popular, and I’m pretty sure if Clinton had tried to explain it, CNN would have shown Trump’s podium.
This is true. Pres. Obama might well have done more than simply say that without it we left the Pacific open to China writing the rules. But 90% of us would have nodded off pretty quickly. Hindsight and all that….
re: #17 Scout
One more link about the TPP:
Wash. wheat growers call Trans-Pacific Partnership a ‘looming disaster’
From the story:
“The Japanese love the quality and consistency of Pacific Northwest wheat and continue to buy our wheat despite its marginally higher price on the world market. But a $65 a ton disadvantage is just too much to overcome and would force them into the arms of our competitors,” Squires said.
These farmers should find better work. Maybe a coal mine in Montana will hire them.
re: #161 Belafon
TPP was a tough sell on the left as well. It was complex, especially since it was a diplomatic treaty wrapped in an economic one. It wasn’t all that popular, and I’m pretty sure if Clinton had tried to explain it, CNN would have shown Trump’s podium.
Yep its complexity made it easy for Sanders and Trump to misrepresent it to an audience understandably not versed in these deals.
re: #167 HappyWarrior
Yep its complexity made it easy for Sanders and Trump to misrepresent it to an audience understandably not versed in these deals.
Trump and his followers don’t understand that world politics, diplomacy and economics cannot be boiled down to win-lose “deals.”
re: #168 wheat-dogg
Trump and his followers don’t understand that world politics, diplomacy and economics cannot be boiled down to win-lose “deals.”
Exactly. I caught some of John Oliver last week. He talked a lot about how Trump is fucking us big time on so called soft power.
re: #169 HappyWarrior
Exactly. I caught some of John Oliver last week. He talked a lot about how Trump is fucking us big time on so called soft power.
China is winning on that front.
re: #170 wheat-dogg
China is winning on that front.
Yep that was discussed as well. China is showing interest in international relations and diplomacy in a way this administration has shown none. My pick for the nomination will be a man or woman who shows interest in that. It’s another strike against Sanders imo.
School in Maryland.
Massive group of students walks out of Montgomery Blair high school. Protest over gun laws. They are going to the US Capitol. @WTOP pic.twitter.com/bEaWT7plmG
— Nick Iannelli (@NickWTOP) February 21, 2018
Would you bring NAMBLA in for a town hall on molestation?
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 21, 2018
Long tail of gun violence: I just went back and counted reports of 10 Philadelphia schools put through lockdowns for gun threats so far this year, including yesterday and today. How’s all that secondary trauma affecting students?
— Jim MacMillan (@JimMacMillan) February 21, 2018
re: #174 JordanRules
True. And there have been colleges who also have had gun threats too. I believe Community College of Philadelphia had a (possibly more) lock down a little while ago.
re: #170 wheat-dogg
China is winning on that front.
Remember that China’s biggest credit rating agency downgraded US securities a few months ago, citing “political deficiencies”. That is a major bombshell that went generally under-reported.
And there is really only one person that could possibly have been directed at.
re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I see you beat me to that one.
yes, a standard straw-man argument.
nobody is advocating a repeal of the 2A or confiscation, but a group of young victims is now actively pushing for sensible legislation to reduce the amount of violent gun crime and mass shootings.
its going to get harder to argue against those two words - to the teens who just lived through it
The radicalized-right are losing their minds on Twitter because some useful idiots with bot-like Tweets are being required to prove that they’re real with a phone number. They call it an attack on Conservatives, but it’s just that people who act just like Russian influence bots are being forced to verify.
One nut even claimed that they’re working up to banning Trump. I told them it won’t happen, but Twitter would be doing Trump a favor if they did, since Twitter is where he constantly brings shame onto himself and America.
Another idiot said the people who lost followers should follow each other and they’ll be “stronger than ever”. As if being in a bot-like echo-chamber makes them strong.
re: #178 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
The radicalized-right are losing their minds on Twitter because some useful idiots with bot-like Tweets are being required to prove that they’re real with a phone number. They call it an attack on Conservatives, but it’s just that people who act just like Russian influence bots are being forced to verify.
These are also people whose sense of self-esteem seems to be based on the number of Twitter followers they can boast,
re: #179 Dr. Matt
After nearly 2 years, Dotard finally admits Russia meddled with our election. Baby steps. Yet, he still hasn’t criticized Mother Russia or Daddy Putin.
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Not only is he acknowledging the meddling after spending a weekend seesawing on whether there was meddling, but he’s now acknowledging that such would be a crime. Give him a little longer and he might start to realize that Uday is in deep shit.
re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
These are also people whose sense of self-esteem seems to be based on the number of Twitter followers they can boast, even if they arent real
re: #150 HappyWarrior
For someone who rages against the media, Lorsch has no problem using it to promote her agenda.
I can hear her now.
“I was young once. I thought liberalism was good like a lot of young people do.
And then I got into the real world and found that liberals and progressives were lying. All they wanted was to tell me what I could do with my money, what I could do with my life, what I could own or not..all according to their dictates.
I grew up and you will too. And when you do you will find that the only thing you can trust, the only thing that can protect you and keep you safe is yourself and your gun.”
re: #179 Dr. Matt
After nearly 2 years, Dotard finally admits Russia meddled with our election. Baby steps. Yet, he still hasn’t criticized Mother Russia or Daddy Putin.
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Obama did what he could, but since the GOP was accepting the help, they refused to do their part.
What’s up over at Newsweek?
Time to take a big sip of water and scroll all the way to the bottom of this Newsweek article https://t.co/QZjTBhQZKW pic.twitter.com/2wnir6boOY
— Freddie Campion (@FreddieCampion) February 21, 2018
What the actual? https://t.co/0rMiiu2moi
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) February 21, 2018
re: #179 Dr. Matt
After nearly 2 years, Dotard finally admits Russia meddled with our election. Baby steps. Yet, he still hasn’t criticized Mother Russia or Daddy Putin.
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Maybe because the Russian meddlers met with your campaign manager and your Adult Male Son. And maybe because you asked Russia to hack Hillary’s emails. And maybe because you bragged about the Wikileaks documents at every rally you held.
re: #183 ObserverArt
I can hear her now.
“I was young once. I thought liberalism was good like a lot of young people do.
And then I got into the real world and found that liberals and progressives were lying. All they wanted was to tell me what I could do with my money, what I could do with my life, what I could own or not..all according to their dictates.
I grew up and you will too. And when you do you will find that the only thing you can trust, the only thing that can protect you and keep you safe is yourself and your gun.”
Is this based on an actual quote of hers, or collection of quotes? If not, you do a scary-good job of channeling condescending wingnut o_O
re: #184 Belafon
Obama did what he could, but since the GOP was accepting the help, they refused to do their part.
It’s easy to criticize someone after something takes place. It’s a different story when something is happening in real-time. Dotard should be fortunate that he has not yet had to make critical decisions in real-time. But, when he does, we all know he will fail.
re: #183 ObserverArt
I can hear her now.
“I was young once. I thought liberalism was good like a lot of young people do.
And then I got into the real world and found that liberals and progressives were lying. All they wanted was to tell me what I could do with my money, what I could do with my life, what I could own or not..all according to their dictates.
I grew up and you will too. And when you do you will find that the only thing you can trust, the only thing that can protect you and keep you safe is yourself and your gun.”
“thats all fine. maybe we will eventually “grow up” in the meantime how about some reasonable measures so you adults with guns dont keep kill us naive kids?”
re: #179 Dr. Matt
After nearly 2 years, Dotard finally admits Russia meddled with our election. Baby steps. Yet, he still hasn’t criticized Mother Russia or Daddy Putin.
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Obama did do something. He expelled the Russians. If he talked about it more, your cult would have gone crazy. They’re not the subject of the investigation because they didn’t conspire with the Russians; Your campaign did. There were no “Dem crimes”.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 21, 2018
Ha, that’s the spirit:
I asked @Emma4Change about how the “Never Again” team is responding to the false conspiracy theories about them being “crisis actors.” Short answer: They’re having some fun. Here’s Emma’s full response: pic.twitter.com/5vQ57YXOqs
— Remy Smidt (@remysmidt) February 21, 2018
re: #185 makeitstop
What’s up over at Newsweek?
Newsweek publishes exposé about itself after staff firings
Two of the magazine’s top editors — editor in chief Bob Roe and executive editor Kenneth Li — were abruptly dismissed, along with reporter Celeste Katz. Multiple reporters resigned in protest. The trio was fired as they were in the midst of pursuing an investigative story into the financial ties of Newsweek’s parent company, the Newsweek Media Group.
Despite the firings, a group of staff journalists continued reporting on the company’s finances. Late Tuesday night, their exposé was published, revealing a deep financial relationship between the parent company and a small Christian school, Olivet University.
The investigation’s findings were damning, but it was the colossal editor’s note at the top of the story that was the most stunning.
re: #144 JordanRules
I believe it’s Dana who will be there.
*spit*
The Parkland students are recovering from trauma and have only been studying gun policy for a week. Is it really necessary for @CNN to pit them against a vicious, dishonest and radicalized @NRA lobbyist? cnn.com
— Shannon Watts
As much as I dislike Dana, haven’t many gun control advocates wanted someone from the NRA to come out and be held accountable in a public forum?
re: #161 Belafon
TPP was a tough sell on the left as well. It was complex, especially since it was a diplomatic treaty wrapped in an economic one. It wasn’t all that popular, and I’m pretty sure if Clinton had tried to explain it, CNN would have shown Trump’s podium.
Yeah, if the 2016 election proved anything, actual discussion of policy and how it would it be implemented was not wanted by the TV media.
They wanted the loudmouth political pissing match. They wanted the show. They wanted good video of the reality show.
Hillary was boring to the media, Trump brought ratings and views. The TV media didn’t care what it brought to America.
re: #191 Interesting Times
Ha, that’s the spirit:
I can see why so many RWNJ are foaming at the mouth and so frustrated. None of this is taking place on their terms and their would be victims aren’t responding in the usual way to their rhetoric and bullying.
re: #120 JordanRules
What’s that they say about the good dying young? Hmm.
She’s not being manipulated. She’s being supported by good people. The bad guys who want to keep weapons of mass-slaughter in civilian hands are claiming that she’s being manipulated. Why are you echoing evil people?
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 21, 2018
re: #193 Sir John Barron
As much as I dislike Dana, haven’t many gun control advocates wanted someone from the NRA to come out and be held accountable in a public forum?
Dana (if they do send her) will try to obfuscate and Gish Gallop and try to steamroll the kids.
Judging by Emma’s response to the ‘crisis actor’ charges posted above, I’d say it won’t work. That kid is sharp.
Did anyone see the comments that were left behind on FB, some calling for the kids to be run over or a suicide bomber to strike them?
re: #193 Sir John Barron
As much as I dislike Dana, haven’t many gun control advocates wanted someone from the NRA to come out and be held accountable in a public forum?
It was Parkland students who sent letters of support to the Virginia Tech victims.The school itself is no stranger to something like this. Except only now, they too are victims.
Because he’s not being blackmailed by Americans.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 21, 2018
This story made the national news. The CANADIAN national news.
A Pennsylvania-based offshoot of the Unification Church is encouraging couples to bring their AR-15 rifles with them to a commitment ceremony in the Pocono Mountains, a half-mile from an elementary school.
World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland said it planned the Feb. 28 ceremony months ago, well before last week’s massacre at a Florida high school. Authorities say the alleged gunman used an AR-15 in the attack that killed 17.
Tim Elder, the Unification Sanctuary’s director of world missions, said Tuesday the church believes the AR-15 symbolizes the “rod of iron” mentioned in the Bible’s apocalyptic book of Revelation.
The church website directs couples to show up to the ceremony with an AR-15 “or equivalents such as an AK semiautomatic rifle, representing both the intent and the ability to defend one’s family, community … “
The church is down the road from Wallenpaupack South Elementary School, and some parents expressed alarm at the planned ceremony.
I can’t fucking stand this shit anymore.
re: #199 electrotek
Did anyone see the comments that were left behind on FB, some calling for the kids to be run over or a suicide bomber to strike them?
Now more than never, it would be a perfect time to report such comments to the FBI and local LEOs. They would be especially pro-active to such activity.
re: #198 makeitstop
Dana (if they do send her) will try to obfuscate and Gish Gallop and try to steamroll the kids.
Judging by Emma’s response to the ‘crisis actor’ charges posted above, I’d say it won’t work. That kid is sharp.
Well, sure, but there will be other adults there, and as you note, the kids really do seem to be OK. And I can’t imagine the NRA’s sending one of its foaming at the mouth loons to represent it on national TV is a good move for them anyway. But Shannon’s tweet seemed a little overly defensive, IMO.
re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg
Clinging to their guns and religion. Obama was a prophet.
re: #199 electrotek
Oh gee here come those ugly threats again. These students are still in mourning for their fellow students there should be words of kindness and support not threats.
re: #197 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
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The fallback to “They’re actors” is now “They’re being manipulated!” Well shit, guys, if they’re so easy to manipulate then why weren’t you Johnny-on-the-spot? Why weren’t you there, feeding them lines about “armed guards” and “armed teachers”? If they’re so damned gullible, where’s all the NRA dollars to convert them into little walking billboards for “MOAR GUNZ!!!”
Fuckin’ morons.
re: #207 Targetpractice
The fallback to “They’re actors” is now “They’re being manipulated!” Well shit, guys, if they’re so easy to manipulate then why weren’t you Johnny-on-the-spot? Why weren’t you there, feeding them lines about “armed guards” and “armed teachers”? If they’re so damned gullible, where’s all the NRA dollars to convert them into little walking billboards for “MOAR GUNZ!!!”
Fuckin’ morons.
Hmmm, maybe the NRA making videos with Dan Wacko Mongino crushing lemons or Dana burning newspapers wasn’t the way to go in persuading hearts and minds.
re: #165 dangerman
mean drivers suck.
that is all
I went to the quarter car wash yesterday and because it was 60 and sunny in the morning a lot of people had the same idea.
The one part of the car wash has four bays just for washing…no vacuums before the bay.
When I pulled in there was a car waiting for one of the bays to open so I pulled up behind him and thought I was forming a line that could wait in rotation for the next open bay. That is pretty much the method most times at this car wash.
So there I am waiting and just as a bay was finishing up (you could tell the guy was packing up his sponge, spray, mats, etc.) a guy drives in right past me and pulls up behind the car getting ready to leave.
I thought you could tell I was kind of back looking at all of the bays, car running, waiting.
And the asshole knew it too. As soon as he got out of the car he looked right at me with a fuck you, I got mine.
I wanted to walk up to him and say, “You’re a Trump voter aren’t you? I bet I would’ve been right. But I also knew if he was what I expected he’d be an asshole with a big mouth and would make a big deal about it all.
What made my day though was an elderly Black lady who apparently was watching and she waved at me to let me know she was about to leave and to move in behind her. As I pulled up behind her, window down, she said: “Lot of people like him around here” loud enough I think the guy heard it. He was just at the back of the next bay.
I smiled and winked at her and as she drove out we waved at each other.
Just another day…
re: #207 Targetpractice
The fallback to “They’re actors” is now “They’re being manipulated!” Well shit, guys, if they’re so easy to manipulate then why weren’t you Johnny-on-the-spot? Why weren’t you there, feeding them lines about “armed guards” and “armed teachers”? If they’re so damned gullible, where’s all the NRA dollars to convert them into little walking billboards for “MOAR GUNZ!!!”
Fuckin’ morons.
The claim about “actors” is really for their crazy base, for the fundraising, etc.
re: #210 plansbandc
Check out this rare yellow pigmented Northern Cardinal photographed in Alabama.
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Uday would kill it with his bare hands and post it on instagram.
re: #213 electrotek
For those of us who can’t facebook at work, what is it?
re: #214 Belafon
For those of us who can’t facebook at work, what is it?
Screen shots of people saying the protestors should be run over by a car, or that a suicide bomber should blow them up.
They’re saying this about kids exercising First Amendment rights. Their employers should see those screen shots. WTF
re: #179 Dr. Matt
After nearly 2 years, Dotard finally admits Russia meddled with our election. Baby steps. Yet, he still hasn’t criticized Mother Russia or Daddy Putin.
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I wonder how much of the Not So Great Orange Dweeb’s day is spent cooking up all the lame tweets he probably thinks covers him from the all the investigation findings as they come.
“Oh, oh, oh…I can blame Obama and act like I just learned about the dates of when they know Vlad was involved!”
He is creative in that three-year-old’s obvious excuse way.
re: #2 Scout
Of all the stupid things trump has done, I personally think pulling the U.S. out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership was the stupidest.
25 GOP senators urge Trump to restart TPP trade talks, a deal he called a ‘disaster’
Ain’t gonna be nothing (and it is definitely a big something) compared to NAFTA. If he fucks that up, the entire country will feel it. And fast.
re: #182 dangerman
These are also people whose sense of self-esteem seems to be based on the number of Twitter followers they can boast, even if they arent real
It’s the thought that counts.
re: #183 ObserverArt
“I was young once. I thought liberalism was good like a lot of young people do.
They will grow up and grow out of their fear of being senselessly and avoidably gunned down…
If these kids were in favor of more guns they’d be called “enlightened” and hailed as heroes by the same nutjobs threatening them and calling them crisis actors.
re: #218 ObserverArt
It’s the
thoughtbot that counts.
re: #5 Targetpractice
It’s the same with NAFTA, they loved him railing against it during the campaign because they thought it might scare Mexico and Canada into placating us with a more “fair” deal. Even when their own constituents (farmers, factory owners, hotels, etc) came to them with fears of what would happen if NAFTA were axed, they sent them away with assurances that Trump was going to get a “better” deal for them.
Now? Now they’re scared shitless because Donny is desperate for something to fire up his base and axing NAFTA to “stiggit” to Mexico has a certain appeal. But the governments of both countries have stated that if he does that, neither will be making a unilateral deal, there will either be NAFTA or nothing.
It’s already worse since Mexico has increased agricultural trade with other countries. Even keeping NAFTA in place has already hurt us. Same with Canada but to a lesser degree.
NAFTA is still there - for now - but it is already weakened. And that hurts all those Trump states that have anything to do with agriculture. They are already feeling it.
re: #215 makeitstop
Screen shots of people saying the protestors should be run over by a car, or that a suicide bomber should blow them up.
They’re saying this about kids exercising First Amendment rights. Their employers should see those screen shots. WTF
That’s the only way they learn, when their livelihood is on the line.
So Billy Graham is dead.
What exactly should I care about? That he taught his son that bigotry and hate fills the pews? Your legacy is in how you teach your children, and in Graham’s case, his son became a racist bigot whose views are in line with Trump himself.
re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg
This story made the national news. The CANADIAN national news.
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A Pennsylvania-based offshoot of the Unification Church is encouraging couples to bring their AR-15 rifles with them to a commitment ceremony in the Pocono Mountains, a half-mile from an elementary school.
World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland said it planned the Feb. 28 ceremony months ago, well before last week’s massacre at a Florida high school. Authorities say the alleged gunman used an AR-15 in the attack that killed 17.
Tim Elder, the Unification Sanctuary’s director of world missions, said Tuesday the church believes the AR-15 symbolizes the “rod of iron” mentioned in the Bible’s apocalyptic book of Revelation.
The church website directs couples to show up to the ceremony with an AR-15 “or equivalents such as an AK semiautomatic rifle, representing both the intent and the ability to defend one’s family, community … “
The church is down the road from Wallenpaupack South Elementary School, and some parents expressed alarm at the planned ceremony.
I can’t fucking stand this shit anymore.
a perfect example of one problem with religion
he believes it
was it revealed to him?
does he talk to god, or vice versa?
how does he know? or is it just faith?
his followers follow him
he says so so they say so
one big game of telephone with no foundation in anything incontrovertible and available for everyone to see
its a scam
This is the modern GOP for you, a party of empty gestures and empty heads:
Florida GOPer votes down AR-15 ban — then backs Parkland teens with ribbon https://t.co/F37mMW4fAv
— Raw Story (@RawStory) February 21, 2018
Caldwell claimed that the bill was rejected because it was a “ban on all guns,” not just AR-15s and other weapons with high-capacity magazines.
“We need to be focused on real solutions,” Caldwell opined. “These maniacs that attack our schools, they’re essentially lone wolf terrorists. And we have to have strategies to focus on that. You’ve got a great example here of where the FBI had been reported to, the school had been reported to, the local law enforcement had been reported to. They did not communicate effectively. They did not understand that this guy was a real threat.”
According to the Florida Republican, lawmakers need to “focus on that side of the equation” instead of passing gun safety laws.
“We need to respond with tools that are going to make a difference,” he remarked. “We know for a fact that these schools get targeted because they’re gun-free zones. Ninety-five percent plus attacks happen in gun-free zones.”
re: #197 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
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What a peach, that guy. lmao
The twitter matrix propaganda machine = Assange not verified #ParklandShooting survivor week old twitter account Verified @Emma4Change pic.twitter.com/TZlrjcB5Tl
— Jake DeMichele (@JakeDeMichele) February 21, 2018
I took this screenshot last night around 10:00PM PST she has another 40K followers in 8 hrs… @jack and @georgesoros are fucking terrorists. https://t.co/6oGRAqnQ29
— Jake DeMichele (@JakeDeMichele) February 21, 2018
re: #187 Interesting Times
Is this based on an actual quote of hers, or collection of quotes? If not, you do a scary-good job of channeling condescending wingnut o_O
No it is mine. I “observe” people…have all my life. Part of that is picking up their thoughts because a lot of people are real easy to figure out, especially if they are so full of themselves.
I then put that in my head for creative purposes like art, song writing, Photoshops, etc.
I did screw up not putting all of my fake Dana quote in italics though. Grrrr. Time ran out by the time i noticed.
re: #224 lawhawk
So Billy Graham is dead.
What exactly should I care about? That he taught his son that bigotry and hate fills the pews? Your legacy is in how you teach your children, and in Graham’s case, his son became a racist bigot whose views are in line with Trump himself.
I always thought he got too much adoration and not enough criticism. His son is one of his legacies and Franklin is one of the worst.
re: #226 Targetpractice
This is the modern GOP for you, a party of empty gestures and empty heads:
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Yep.
re: #226 Targetpractice
THERE WERE ARMED POLICE AT THE SCHOOL BEFORE THE SHOOTING YOU DIPSHIT.
re: #213 electrotek
It is quite possible that the offensive comments are all from Russian trolls. Remember they are working full time on the shooting, to sow dissension among Americans.
re: #209 ObserverArt
And the asshole knew it too. As soon as he got out of the car he looked right at me with a fuck you, I got mine.
yup - they are just selfish people. me first
i try not to get mad - especially in my car cause no one can hear and it’s just venting
so i just say “hey good for you. you win”
re: #227 GlutenFreeJesus
What a peach, that guy. lmao
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Terrorist? You use that word, don’t think you know what it means but go ahead and cry that Emma is verified and not creepy Julian.
re: #232 Hecuba’s daughter
Which is why - with the exception of this site - I put virtually no stock in online comments made by people I’ve never met.
re: #232 Hecuba’s daughter
It is quite possible that the offensive comments are all from Russian trolls. Remember they are working full time on the shooting, to sow dissension among Americans.
Certainly but I’m sure there are real Americans in there too.
re: #191 Interesting Times
Ha, that’s the spirit:
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Emma is a power house. You can tell she has the natural leader thing going on. She is comfortable in her own skin and owns her thoughts. There are others too, but I think everyone has picked up on Emma.
She is one to watch, we have not heard the last of her.
re: #200 GlutenFreeJesus
It was Parkland students who sent letters of support to the Virginia Tech victims.The school itself is no stranger to something like this. Except only now, they too are victims.
And maybe that is what makes them who they are. They have been aware for some time of the problems and when it visited them they were all like “oh no…this stops here!”
re: #232 Hecuba’s daughter
It is quite possible that the offensive comments are all from Russian trolls. Remember they are working full time on the shooting, to sow dissension among Americans.
Unfortunately they’re not. They’ve already been doxxed and judging from prior experience, there are plenty of deplorables who are this despicable.
re: #239 electrotek
Unfortunately they’re not. They’ve already been doxxed and judging from prior experience, there are plenty of deplorables who are this despicable.
The worst is seeing people you know spread bs. I’ve seen it with friends and family.
Billy Graham, who was caught on tape urging Richard Nixon to “do something” about the “Jewish stranglehold” on the United States, has died https://t.co/BhDe29dnQQ
— Yes, You’re Racist (@YesYoureRacist) February 21, 2018
The “Jewish Stranglehold” was my finishing move in the WWE. https://t.co/ZmvvlQJxoS
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) February 21, 2018
A good way to prove that you’re not antisemitic is to describe your Jewish friends as “swarming” around you like unwanted insects. pic.twitter.com/MDUrnOY8vR
— (((OhNoSheTwitnt))) (@OhNoSheTwitnt) February 21, 2018
Billy Graham has passed away. In lieu of flowers, his family requests that people send Jews directly to Hell.
— (((OhNoSheTwitnt))) (@OhNoSheTwitnt) February 21, 2018
re: #240 GlutenFreeJesus
Joe Walsh. Embarrassing Illinois like always.
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Failed again Joe just like you did at fatherhood. People like you shouldn’t have guns.
re: #238 ObserverArt
And maybe that is what makes them who they are. They have been aware for some time of the problems and when it visited them they were all like “oh no…this stops here!”
I heard or read that some columbine alums do in fact travel to these schools to try to help in the aftermath
re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg
This story made the national news. The CANADIAN national news.
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A Pennsylvania-based offshoot of the Unification Church is encouraging couples to bring their AR-15 rifles with them to a commitment ceremony in the Pocono Mountains, a half-mile from an elementary school.
World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland said it planned the Feb. 28 ceremony months ago, well before last week’s massacre at a Florida high school. Authorities say the alleged gunman used an AR-15 in the attack that killed 17.
Tim Elder, the Unification Sanctuary’s director of world missions, said Tuesday the church believes the AR-15 symbolizes the “rod of iron” mentioned in the Bible’s apocalyptic book of Revelation.
The church website directs couples to show up to the ceremony with an AR-15 “or equivalents such as an AK semiautomatic rifle, representing both the intent and the ability to defend one’s family, community … “
The church is down the road from Wallenpaupack South Elementary School, and some parents expressed alarm at the planned ceremony.
I can’t fucking stand this shit anymore.
But they don’t hold to their guns and their Bibles like that Obama guy said.
re: #227 GlutenFreeJesus
What a peach, that guy. lmao
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You seem to be profoundly unwell. For some reason you’re upset that young people are working to do something about the gun madness in their country.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 21, 2018
re: #242 lawhawk
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Nearly fifty years ago Billy was perfecting the “But I love Israel” line of defense. He was a bigoted hypocrite. Not as vile as his son but someone who didn’t deserve the positive rep he had.
re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg
This story made the national news. The CANADIAN national news.
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A Pennsylvania-based offshoot of the Unification Church is encouraging couples to bring their AR-15 rifles with them to a commitment ceremony in the Pocono Mountains, a half-mile from an elementary school.
World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland said it planned the Feb. 28 ceremony months ago, well before last week’s massacre at a Florida high school. Authorities say the alleged gunman used an AR-15 in the attack that killed 17.
Tim Elder, the Unification Sanctuary’s director of world missions, said Tuesday the church believes the AR-15 symbolizes the “rod of iron” mentioned in the Bible’s apocalyptic book of Revelation.
The church website directs couples to show up to the ceremony with an AR-15 “or equivalents such as an AK semiautomatic rifle, representing both the intent and the ability to defend one’s family, community … “
The church is down the road from Wallenpaupack South Elementary School, and some parents expressed alarm at the planned ceremony.
I can’t fucking stand this shit anymore.
They’re Moonies. No one expects them to be sane.
re: #37 Kragar
;-)
You? I went from 1059 followers to 1080 followers! #TwitterLockout
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) February 21, 2018
The well ORGANIZED effort by Florida school students demanding gun control has GEORGE SOROS’ FINGERPRINTS all over it. It is similar to how he hijacked and exploited black people’s emotion regarding police use of force incidents into the COP HATING Black Lives Matter movement. pic.twitter.com/XDZ3bcwF6F
— David A. Clarke, Jr. (@SheriffClarke) February 20, 2018
This asshole again https://t.co/hayLyYrGKB
— Floppy Boot Stomp (@the_edwin_mix) February 21, 2018
re: #239 electrotek
Unfortunately they’re not. They’ve already been doxxed and judging from prior experience, there are plenty of deplorables who are this despicable.
But the posting was supposedly from Facebook — and has Facebook done anything to clean up its act? Also, is it possible that the posting was fake? The claim was that FB removed the original post — but is it possible that there was no original post?
re: #249 MsJ
I have no idea how many followers I had. It’s just Twitter.
re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg
This story made the national news. The CANADIAN national news.
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A Pennsylvania-based offshoot of the Unification Church is encouraging couples to bring their AR-15 rifles with them to a commitment ceremony in the Pocono Mountains, a half-mile from an elementary school.
World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland said it planned the Feb. 28 ceremony months ago, well before last week’s massacre at a Florida high school. Authorities say the alleged gunman used an AR-15 in the attack that killed 17.
Tim Elder, the Unification Sanctuary’s director of world missions, said Tuesday the church believes the AR-15 symbolizes the “rod of iron” mentioned in the Bible’s apocalyptic book of Revelation.
The church website directs couples to show up to the ceremony with an AR-15 “or equivalents such as an AK semiautomatic rifle, representing both the intent and the ability to defend one’s family, community … “
The church is down the road from Wallenpaupack South Elementary School, and some parents expressed alarm at the planned ceremony.
I can’t fucking stand this shit anymore.
The Unification church is a Rev Moon creation. He also owned a small-arms factory in S. Korea. (The successor organization also has a vertical monopoly on Alabama coast sushi, based near Bayou la Batre.)
RWNJs out loud “I love Israel!”
RWNJs inner voice: “I just hate Jews.”
re: #254 Sir John Barron
Wow, I had no idea SOROS was behind BLM, lol.
/
Dude. He’s behind everything.
/
re: #250 gocart mozart
The well ORGANIZED effort by Florida school students demanding gun control has GEORGE SOROS’ FINGERPRINTS all over it. It is similar to how he hijacked and exploited black people’s emotion regarding police use of force incidents into the COP HATING Black Lives Matter movement. pic.twitter.com
— David A. Clarke, Jr.
Ah, remember the days when Sheriff Dave was calling for an armed overthrow of the Obama Administration? Good times.
Yesterday on the way home from work I was listening to some RWNJ on AM radio. He was going on about the Clooneys donating $500k to the march. He said, “What is $500k going to do for a march? A march? That could have paid for armed security guards in 10 schools at $50k each for a year! But it’s going instead for a march!”
re: #248 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
They’re Moonies. No one expects them to be sane.
You mean the Moonies are still around? I thought once Reverend Moon finally departed this earth (good riddance to bad rubbish) that his organization would eventually disintegrate.
re: #259 Hecuba’s daughter
You mean the Moonies are still around? I thought once Reverend Moon finally departed this earth (good riddance to bad rubbish) that his organization would eventually disintegrate.
The children went through some bitter feudal division of the fiefdom, probably settled out.
re: #227 GlutenFreeJesus
The twitter matrix propaganda machine = Assange not verified #ParklandShooting survivor week old twitter account Verified @Emma4Change pic.twitter.com
— Jake DeMichele
You are a special snowflake aren’t you? Maybe Assange should climb out of the Ecuadorian Embassy and live like a regular person.
re: #259 Hecuba’s daughter
You mean the Moonies are still around? I thought once Reverend Moon finally departed this earth (good riddance to bad rubbish) that his organization would eventually disintegrate.
I thought the same about L Ron Hubbard, but someone even more evil took over when he died.
Trump and the NRA must be feeling much pressure since the Parkland massacre. Pressure must be high to cause them to throw out a sacrificial ban on bump stocks in an attempt to stem the rising tide of those who have had enough. IMO sacrificial ban is all it really is. I can’t help but wonder about the discussion that preceded that decision with the NRA knowing Trump will go for it. The bump stock ban would allow Trump to boast that he at least did something…unlike Obama who did nothing…will be his words.
My thoughts: “Mr. Mueller, I hope to see Trump’s problems continue to multiply.”
re: #250 gocart mozart
I was an Ice-T fan back in college. Unless Soros has been playing a really long game, the relationship between blacks and cops has been sour before he started getting involved.
Is George Soros the #1 all time hit for wingnuts?
Followed by the Clintons at #2
Barack Obama #3.
re: #265 ObserverArt
Is George Soros the #1 all time hit for wingnuts?
Followed by the Clintons at #2
Barack Obama #3.
That’s only because they finally realized Saul Alinsky has been dead for decades.
re: #265 ObserverArt
Is George Soros the #1 all time hit for wingnuts?
Followed by the Clintons at #2
Barack Obama #3.
#4 Saul Alinsky
#5 Bill Ayers
#6 Everyone Left of Hitler
re: #266 Dr. Matt
OMG. Here we go again. Dead bigot being praised by other bigots. Such a broken record.
re: #265 ObserverArt
Is George Soros the #1 all time hit for wingnuts?
Followed by the Clintons at #2
Barack Obama #3.
Whatever happened to Saul Alinsky?
New charges have been filed in Mueller’s criminal case against Paul Manafort and aide Rick Gates, but the charges were put under seal by the court, obscuring the nature and import of the development, Politico reports. https://t.co/coelDZ9uwi
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) February 21, 2018
New and added charges… the hits keep coming for the Russia-Trump investigation that Trump thinks is a witch hunt, but which has continued to pile up indictments, guilty pleas, and casts a wider net. https://t.co/4VYjIQEPGi
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 21, 2018
re: #268 Dr. Matt
#4 Saul Alinsky
#5 Bill Ayers
#6 Everyone Left of Hitler
I didn’t see your comment before posting mine!
Underreported story of the day:
This is yet another domestic terrorist incident and is not getting attention it should.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 21, 2018
re: #270 Hecuba’s daughter
Whatever happened to Saul Alinsky?
He hasn’t been doing great things lately.
re: #224 lawhawk
So Billy Graham is dead.
What exactly should I care about? That he taught his son that bigotry and hate fills the pews? Your legacy is in how you teach your children, and in Graham’s case, his son became a racist bigot whose views are in line with Trump himself.
While I don’t think that the apple fell far from the tree, I also think that Franklin got up and ran far further in that direction than his fathers worst moments (yes, I remember the Nixon tapes).
Franklin is the kind of Christian that makes it so goddamn difficult for decent people to actually follow the teachings and do good in the world. Still, I remember reading yesterday about Fred Rogers & his neighborhood & I can only hope that he’s the kind to be remembered when all of this is said and done.
re: #266 Dr. Matt
FFS.
Mike Huckabee Says Billy Graham’s Death is ‘Fake News’: He’s ‘More Alive Today Than’ Ever
Yeah…as alive as the four dead cops that Maurice Clemons killed after HUCK SINN paroled him…or the women raped and killed by Wayne Dumond.
First page of @YouTube search results for David Hogg:
1. Conspiracy video
2. Conspiracy video
3. CNN video
4. CBS video
5. Conspiracy video
6. Conspiracy video
7. Conspiracy video
8. Conspiracy video
9. Conspiracy video
10. Conspiracy videohttps://t.co/qFLUJwnBwh— Christopher Ingraham (@_cingraham) February 21, 2018
re: #129 Belafon
My head just exploded:
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Then I put it back together so that I can help candidates this fall.
I find it hard to believe that WV, Ky and La are rated competetive as well, though a Democrat did win a special election in Kentucky yesterday.
US Supreme Court forbids seizure of ancient Persian artifacts https://t.co/7vWDiUySmz
— Raw Story (@RawStory) February 21, 2018
The U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled that Americans injured in a 1997 suicide bombing in Jerusalem cannot seize ancient Persian artifacts from a Chicago museum to satisfy a $71.5 million court judgment against Iran, which they had accused of complicity in the attack.
The justices, in an 8-0 ruling, upheld a lower court’s decision in favor of Iran that had prevented the plaintiffs from collecting on the judgment, which Tehran has not paid, by obtaining antiquities held at the University of Chicago’s Oriental Institute. The important Persian cultural artifacts, on loan from Iran to the museum since the 1930s, include clay tablets boasting some of the oldest writing in the world.
Justice Elena Kagan did not participate in the decision.
The decision could make it harder for plaintiffs in other cases arising from militant attacks overseas to seek compensation by seizing and selling off cultural relics owned by foreign countries.
re: #277 gocart mozart
Maybe there is something oddly “organized” about the Parkland shooting aftermath as Sheriff Dave claims, but it doesn’t appear to be the survivors.
A huge crowd of teens exiting Union Station and heading to the Capitol to call for action on gun violence pic.twitter.com/5VVWGFTGij
— Zoë Carpenter (@ZoeSCarpenter) February 21, 2018
re: #250 gocart mozart
The well ORGANIZED effort by Florida school students demanding gun control has GEORGE SOROS’ FINGERPRINTS all over it. It is similar to how he hijacked and exploited black people’s emotion regarding police use of force incidents into the COP HATING Black Lives Matter movement.
interesting - soros “hijacking and exploiting peoples emotions” is some kind of evil
the russians doing it? crickets
The American-right has gone insane from brainwashing and hate-addiction. I blame Fox News, hate-radio, and far-right-wing blogs.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 21, 2018
re: #278 Big Beautiful Door
I find it hard to believe that WV, Ky and La are rated competetive as well, though a Democrat did win a special election in Kentucky yesterday.
My son is doing graduate work at UK. One of the things they’ve done in Lexington is you can now pay for traffic tickets in canned goods rather than cash.
re: #282 dangerman
interesting - soros “hijacking and exploiting peoples emotions” is some kind of evil
the russians doing it? crickets
Also, there’s an entire DOJ division dedicated to publicizing crimes by illegal immigrants but sure Sheriff Dave you do you.
re: #263 Semper Fi
Trump and the NRA must be feeling much pressure since the Parkland massacre. Pressure must be high to cause them to throw out a sacrificial ban on bump stocks in an attempt to stem the rising tide of those who have had enough. IMO sacrificial ban is all it really is. I can’t help but wonder about the discussion that preceded that decision with the NRA knowing Trump will go for it. The bump stock ban would allow Trump to boast that he at least did something…unlike Obama who did nothing…will be his words.
My thoughts: “Mr. Mueller, I hope to see Trump’s problems continue to multiply.”
i hate predicting the future. because i want stuff to work.
still i see two things coming if they do ban the bump stocks
- we did do something. what more do you want
- see? it didnt help anyway
re: #263 Semper Fi
Trump and the NRA must be feeling much pressure since the Parkland massacre. Pressure must be high to cause them to throw out a sacrificial ban on bump stocks in an attempt to stem the rising tide of those who have had enough. IMO sacrificial ban is all it really is. I can’t help but wonder about the discussion that preceded that decision with the NRA knowing Trump will go for it. The bump stock ban would allow Trump to boast that he at least did something…unlike Obama who did nothing…will be his words.
My thoughts: “Mr. Mueller, I hope to see Trump’s problems continue to multiply.”
Of course, bump stocks had nothing to do with Parkland. OTOH, outlawing them would be good — as long as the legislation is carefully drafted to outlaw anything that provides comparable capabilities, requires that existing bump stocks be turned it by a certain date, and treats continued possession of these items as a criminal offense with a substantial fine and a prison sentence.
re: #286 dangerman
i hate predicting the future. because i want stuff to work.
still i see two things coming if they do ban the bump stocks- we did do something. what more do you want
- see? it didnt help anyway
“Well, then, I guess it wasn’t the right thing.”
re: #263 Semper Fi
Trump and the NRA must be feeling much pressure since the Parkland massacre. Pressure must be high to cause them to throw out a sacrificial ban on bump stocks in an attempt to stem the rising tide of those who have had enough. IMO sacrificial ban is all it really is. I can’t help but wonder about the discussion that preceded that decision with the NRA knowing Trump will go for it. The bump stock ban would allow Trump to boast that he at least did something…unlike Obama who did nothing…will be his words.
My thoughts: “Mr. Mueller, I hope to see Trump’s problems continue to multiply.”
Your comment reminds me of something I heard about Trump attempting to ban anything that makes a gun a “machine gun” or however Trumpy said it.
It was said that there is no way for Trump and Sessions to do anything that would not require congress to write legislation and have it pass. This can not be done by executive order.
And of course the summation was; that is not going to happen with this congress.
re: #287 Hecuba’s daughter
Of course, bump stocks had nothing to do with Parkland. OTOH, outlawing them would be good — as long as the legislation is carefully drafted to outlaw anything that provides comparable capabilities, requires that existing bump stocks be turned it by a certain date, and treats continued possession of these items as a criminal offense with a substantial fine and a prison sentence.
…and loss of 2A rights.
if you demonstrate you dont know the rules, care about the rules or just dont wanna follow the rules, you have demonstrated you are not a responsible gun owner.
therefore you are dangerous to the rest of us
How cool is this? The first all female rock group signed by a major label is back!
re: #288 Belafon
“Well, then, I guess it wasn’t the right thing.”
first they wont wait a sufficient amount of time to really know
second it’ll be some other kind of shooting - say a handgun or whatever
third the cdc is sitll barred from actually tracking this stuff properly
Not that we needed any proof…
There’s a photo going around claiming David Hogg did not attend Douglas, but a school in California. Here’s a video to debunk that: pic.twitter.com/hJsMNSdAsF
— Joey (@_Joey_Wong) February 21, 2018
TSA breaks record for most firearms found in one week
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) on Tuesday announced that it has set a new record for the most firearms found in carry-on luggage during a one-week time frame.
Between Feb. 5 and 11, the agency found 104 firearms in carry-on bags across the country. That number is up from a prior record of 96 weapons, which were discovered last July.
Eighty-seven of the 104 firearms found were loaded, the agency said, and 38 were discovered with a round in the chamber. Seventeen of the 104 were not loaded when found. TSA mandates that firearms travel unloaded and in checked baggage. The agency also requires travelers to announce firearms each time they are transported.
Uncle Tom “sheriff” Clark and the rest of the delusional fucks screeching about paid actors and Soros when the NRA is paying every Republican in Congress. Unreal.
Conservatives are claiming they are being blocked and censored by the #TwitterLockOut..
You know how I know? they are TWEETING about it.
😂😂😂— Hal Sparks (@HalSparks) February 21, 2018
re: #296 Dr. Matt
Uncle Tom “sheriff” Clark and the rest of the delusional fucks screeching about paid actors and Soros when the NRA is paying every Republican in Congress. Unreal.
Soros fights against fascism. The NRA fights for it. One is OK with them, the other is not.
They’re upset that they had to prove they were people, after their bot-like Tweets were detected. They’re the useful idiots driven by the Russian bots.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 21, 2018
What the ever loving fuck? This just came into my email inbox:
USDA staffer shocks agency with public admission about sex for promotion
At one point during the program, which employees said was televised to department facilities across the country, Davis unexpectedly took the stage and alleged to her colleagues in emotional and specific terms how she was sexually harassed on the job. She described how a supervisor, whom she named, offered to give her a promotion to grade GS-13 in exchange for sex.
The supervisor and others are named in a lawsuit she filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. Davis alleges USDA managers retaliated against her because of her equal employment complaints against the agency and her involvement in an investigation of whistleblower complaints involving the department’s Office of the Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights.
Davis acknowledged she submitted to the supervisor’s advances in hopes of getting promoted. “I agreed to the sex,” she said in an interview.
Shortly after the program, she received a letter placing her on paid administrative leave. She was told not to use any agency facilities, not even voice mail. Furthermore, the letter added, “you and your family or close associates are prohibited from contacting any USDA employees at work or at home, to discuss any matters associated with your employment with USDA.”
Curiously, the letter indicates Davis was not placed on leave because of what she did but, apparently, because of what she might do.
Read the rest. Wow.
Hundreds of students from DC-area Maryland schools walked out this morning to protest for gun control at the Capitol and White House. Tourists are occasionally clapping for them along the route. pic.twitter.com/pF0AfwWWma
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) February 21, 2018
re: #294 GlutenFreeJesus
She claims it’s not a Douglas yearbook (which I promise it is, I know multiple people in that picture) yet there’s someone in the pic wearing a douglas t-shirt???? pic.twitter.com/BwPDyGztgK
— Sarah Chadwick// #NEVERAGAIN (@sarahchad_) February 21, 2018
HAHAHAHA!
Breaking:
Purged bots from the #TwitterLockout massacre are organizing a protest march inside a flash drive.— andy lassner (@andylassner) February 21, 2018
re: #294 GlutenFreeJesus
“David Hogg didn’t attend Parkland high school. I went to school in with him in Saranac Lake, New York and he graduated in 1924. Here he is in our yearbook from 1924. He always wanted to work for the talkies and be a butter & egg man.” pic.twitter.com/us4gQCuj0K
— Charles Gaba (@charles_gaba) February 21, 2018
I wouldn’t doubt an agent of Soros was handling Nicholas Cruz behind the scenes. Who bought the arsenal? How does a 19 without visible means of income purchase a https://t.co/U54SPq6fIf the Cruz arsenal missing? pic.twitter.com/wMLI6Ip2BZ
— Art Moves (@Artmoves1) February 21, 2018
TEST The shooting is so well organized it appears to be a propaganda news production complete with media platform, buses, extra’s acess to selected politicians.
— Art Moves (@Artmoves1) February 21, 2018
They’ll handle it same way the Las Vegas shooting was. Everything will be sanitized & compartmentalised to keep the whole story hidden. The FBI are very good at it, pity they’ve gone rogue.
— Robert Woodford (@robertwfr) February 21, 2018
He doesn’t look all there somehow. I know it’s what a normal person would do but something is missing.
— Robert Woodford (@robertwfr) February 21, 2018
Actually, EVERYTHING is #FakeNews! You are actually a disembodied brain, floating in a jar, being manipulated by an alien collective known as “The Soros”!
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 21, 2018
About that tax break:
Poll: Few voters report seeing bigger paychecks after tax changes
politico.com
NEW: Federal investigators probing deal between Manafort and a bank run by a former Trump campaign economic advisor as a possible quid-pro-quo for White House position, people with direct knowledge of matter tell @NBCNews. https://t.co/fZwINuYg6k
— NBC News (@NBCNews) February 21, 2018
High school students in Arlington, Va just walked out of their school @newshour #studentwalkout #wakefield pic.twitter.com/QsYHEVCVtb
— Vicky Pasquantonio (@vicpasquantonio) February 21, 2018
re: #292 plansbandc
How cool is this? The first all female rock group signed my a major label is back!
That is pretty cool. Good songs, too.
Full disclosure: I crushed hard on June Millington when I was a kid. :)
How long before this trump thing maladministration announces all schools will be closing and home schooling or Christian schools will be the only thing acceptable?
A Betsy DeVos wet dream.
Idiots posting over on The Hill are absolutely losing their shit because high school kids are protesting. Some are claiming the minimum voting age should be 21 because 18 year olds are too emotional and immature. Let that sink in…..”adults” want to change the law because high school students are standing up for themselves.
re: #265 ObserverArt
Is George Soros the #1 all time hit for wingnuts?
Followed by the Clintons at #2
Barack Obama #3.
Saul Alinsky is pretty high up there as well.
New charges filed in Manafort-Gates case https://t.co/ET7RRjLhTs via @joshgerstein pic.twitter.com/P5DtvUJpdB
— POLITICO (@politico) February 21, 2018
“under seal by the court” https://t.co/TrTvKovrp4
— Kate Brannen (@K8brannen) February 21, 2018
re: #306 Ace-o-aces
These people are so far gone there’s no point in even trying to reach them. Let them indulge in their spittle-flecked rage, furiously typing away on Twitter.
Now we just need to find a way to convince them that voting is all part of (((Soros’))) “master plan”!!
re: #312 Dr. Matt
Idiots posting over on The Hill are absolutely losing their shit because high school kids are protesting. Some are claiming the minimum voting age should be 21 because 18 year olds are too emotional and immature. Let that sink in…..”adults” want to change the law because high school students are standing up for themselves.
But yeah, let’s send them off to war… oh, and give them access to legal purchases of firearms.
re: #309 FormerDirtDart
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I believe that’s Yorktown High. My dad briefly attended and my cousin is an alumnus.
re: #312 Dr. Matt
Idiots posting over on The Hill are absolutely losing their shit because high school kids are protesting. Some are claiming the minimum voting age should be 21 because 18 year olds are too emotional and immature. Let that sink in…..”adults” want to change the law because high school students are standing up for themselves.
When conservatives get scared, they propose limiting rights.
re: #318 HappyWarrior
Yep. That’s how they roll.
There goes that $1.50 a week in tax breaks!
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 21, 2018
re: #316 lawhawk
But yeah, let’s send them off to war… oh, and give them access to legal purchases of firearms.
And get rid of child labor laws so they can begin working before their teen years.
day two pic.twitter.com/wTy466cFTp
— Jared Holt (@jaredlholt) February 21, 2018
HAHAHA….
Oh God…this is real isn’t it…..😱— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 21, 2018
re: #278 Big Beautiful Door
Not to be a wet blanket, but: a special election between a normal person and the wife of the previous office holder, the egomaniac sexual predator pastor of a “biker church,” who committed suicide after being credibly accused of assaulting a teenage girl that attended his church (and his church’s booze-and-drugs get-togethers).
re: #321 Dr. Matt
And get rid of child labor laws so they can begin working before their teen years.
And allow Roy Moore to date them but heaven forbid they have opinions that the conservative hive doesn’t like on guns.
re: #320 Ace-o-aces
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I’m fine with a fuel tax. This country solely needs it to help improve our road infrastructure.
re: #319 plansbandc
Yep. That’s how they roll.
American conservatives are authoritarians. There’s nothing ‘conservative’ about the viewpoint at all. They are credulous conspiracy theorists who believe the function of law is to maintain their position of privilege and keep other people beneath them. If the underclasses start to use the system to their favour, then the answer is to change the system.
re: #323 Ace-o-aces
Who is that? Wait….is that Milo!!?!???! LOLOLOLOLOL
re: #320 Ace-o-aces
Trump’s contemplating hiking the gas tax 25 cents per gallon to pay for the infrastructure scam.
Considering that a person typically drives 12,000 miles a year (and assuming 25 mpg).
That’s 480 gallons purchased, with 25 cents per gallon hiked… we get another $120 out of pocket.
Truckers will see even higher costs, because they do far more driving, and that will translate to higher transit/package delivery costs as well as higher food costs thanks to fuel costs passed on to the consumer.
For those who are lower income, it’s a huge hit and more than offsets any tax breaks they might ever see with the Trump tax scam.
CNN has been showing the student’s speeches uninterrupted.
Good on them.
Oh, please sign me up! I don’t know what I would do with out my daily dose of Trump based homoerotic art from @GrrrGraphics!
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 21, 2018
re: #326 electrotek
I’m fine with a fuel tax. This country solely needs it to help improve our road infrastructure.
Those more affluent Americans owning hybrid vehicles or electric cars wouldn’t be paying their share of costs if it’s paid only through fuel tax. We all benefit from improved roads and infrastructure. The fairest approach is to pay through income taxes — maybe a temporary added tax that increases by income level.
Just when you think the shit pit that Manafort’s standing in can’t get any deeper…
Mueller is examining whether Manafort promised Chicago banker Stephen Calk a job in the Trump White House in return for $16 million in home loans, two people with direct knowledge of the matter told NBC https://t.co/bkYz9GSuMz
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) February 21, 2018
Pay to play, amirite? That’s bad, right?
The party that spent the 00s bitching about federal gas taxes being responsible for high gas prices now are cool with a $.25/gal increase to pay for infrastructure, a regressive tax that will largely fall upon the “working class” they claim to champion.
My surprise, etc.
Rep. Rod Blum (R-IA 1st)
A congressman from Iowa violated House ethics rules by failing to disclose a new company that he owns, a mysterious outfit that uses one of his federal staffers in a false testimonial for its services: https://t.co/eBxhqW4wkA
— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) February 21, 2018
IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — A congressman from Iowa violated House ethics rules by failing to disclose a new company that he owns, a mysterious outfit that uses one of his federal staffers in a false testimonial for its services, an Associated Press review shows.
Rep. Rod Blum was one of two directors of the Tin Moon Corp. when the internet marketing company was incorporated in May 2016, as the Republican was serving his first term, a business filing shows. Among other services, Tin Moon promises to help companies cited for federal food and drug safety violations bury their Food and Drug Administration warning letters below positive internet search results.
Seeing that bit about Soros above and catching freetoken’s comments over night about how a lot of what we hear now is similar to the Bircher’s bullshit back in the 60s gave me an idea for a new Photoshop. This one can be modified to other images that will come up.
So many of the wingnut/conservative talking points are recycled over and over…best they carry the symbol for easy identification.
re: #334 makeitstop
Just when you think the shit pit that Manafort’s standing in can’t get any deeper…
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Pay to play, amirite? That’s bad, right?
Yeah, but the money wasn’t paid to the Clinton Foundation, so it’s cool.
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re: #330 Stanley Sea
CNN has been showing the student’s speeches uninterrupted.
Good on them.
very presidential
re: #335 Targetpractice
The party that spent the 00s bitching about federal gas taxes being responsible for high gas prices now are cool with a $.25/gal increase to pay for infrastructure, a regressive tax that will largely fall upon the “working class” they claim to champion.
My surprise, etc.
none of that money will go to roads, bridges, etc.
it’ll go to “infrastructure” by way of fees to companies connected to the administration
besides if they passed it today it’ll take quite a while to amass some serious bucks. everything gonna be on hold till then?
From Politifact: No, Trump did not declare George Soros a security threat
re: #304 MsJ
HAHAHAHA!
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re: #329 lawhawk
Trump’s contemplating hiking the gas tax 25 cents per gallon to pay for the infrastructure scam.
Considering that a person typically drives 12,000 miles a year (and assuming 25 mpg).
That’s 480 gallons purchased, with 25 cents per gallon hiked… we get another $120 out of pocket.Truckers will see even higher costs, because they do far more driving, and that will translate to higher transit/package delivery costs as well as higher food costs thanks to fuel costs passed on to the consumer.
For those who are lower income, it’s a huge hit and more than offsets any tax breaks they might ever see with the Trump tax scam.
Agreed 100% on every point. It’s about as regressive as you can get. And coming on the heels of the recent tax cut for the top, it’s particularly distasteful.
re: #336 FormerDirtDart
Rep. Rod Blum was one of two directors of the Tin Moon Corp. when the internet marketing company was incorporated in May 2016, as the Republican was serving his first term, a business filing shows. Among other services, Tin Moon promises to help companies cited for federal food and drug safety violations bury their Food and Drug Administration warning letters below positive internet search results.
not a word about, you know, addressing the actual reason for the violations
re: #342 lizardofid
Agreed 100% on every point. It’s about as regressive as you can get. And coming on the heels of the recent tax cut for the top, it’s particularly distasteful.
I wish some Democrat would come out with that publicly: Trump is the biggest insult to the “working class” one can imagine. He champions a massive cut to income taxes that are progressive and thus fall on thus best able to pay them, while pushing regressive usage taxes on those least able to pay them in order to fund massive giveaways to those whose income taxes he just massively cut.
re: #336 FormerDirtDart
Rep. Rod Blum (R-IA 1st)
“Oh, was I supposed to tell people I owned this company?”
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re: #337 ObserverArt
Seeing that bit about Soros above and catching freetoken’s comments over night about how a lot of what we hear now is similar to the Bircher’s bullshit back in the 60s gave me an idea for a new Photoshop. This one can be modified to other images that will come up.
So many of the wingnut/conservative talking points are recycled over and over…best they carry the symbol for easy identification.
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The wingnut thing needs to stand out more.
re: #324 The Ghost of a Flea
Not to be a wet blanket, but: a special election between a normal person and the wife of the previous office holder, the egomaniac sexual predator pastor of a “biker church,” who committed suicide after being credibly accused of assaulting a teenage girl that attended his church (and his church’s booze-and-drugs get-togethers).
It’s Kentucky.
Don’t over-think this. : )
Honestly. Do they call it the death tax? Refer to forced-birthers as pro-life? Guh.
“Threaten to expand gun rights”?! Can anyone here play this game? How about “threaten to destroy gun safety measures”?
— Charming Persistence (@Charmingly2020) February 21, 2018
re: #332 Hecuba’s daughter
Those more affluent Americans owning hybrid vehicles or electric cars wouldn’t be paying their share of costs if it’s paid only through fuel tax. We all benefit from improved roads and infrastructure. The fairest approach is to pay through income taxes — maybe a temporary added tax that increases by income level.
Don’t disagree, but more and more people are purchasing SUV’s, crossovers, and luxury pickup trucks for the time being.
re: #330 Stanley Sea
CNN has been showing the student’s speeches uninterrupted.
Good on them.
Saw your comment and flipped to MSNBC…they are covering it all too it appears.
There are facts and statistics that show strong gun control states have lower per capita death rates from firearms.States with lax laws have higher per capita firearms rates.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 21, 2018
The only solution from the GOP/NRA is more guns, when every statistic and piece of evidence suggests that makes people less safe.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 21, 2018
When the GOP/NRA only response is more guns, yeah, it’s time to change the tune.
The GOP/NRA have no other solution besides more guns. They refuse to implement even the most basic of nationwide gun regulations. Only in the US do we have the kind of mass carnage from guns on a daily basis - outside war zones and third world countries - and even then, we have more mass shootings.
States and countries with strong gun control have fewer incidents, and fewer deaths.
The NRA asks where does gun control work. It works everywhere it’s been tried.
re: #334 makeitstop
Just when you think the shit pit that Manafort’s standing in can’t get any deeper…
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Pay to play, amirite? That’s bad, right?
Sure makes you wonder about all of the cabinet and staffs doesn’t it?
And it is all so-very-Trumpian.
Please Mr. Mueller connect this to the Trumps and add it to collusion with Russians and obstruction of the investigation.
A three front war will be hard for the Trumps to keep up with.
I just spilled a huge bowl of taco soup on my desk and then swiped at all the juices so they didn’t get in my phone, computer, phone, etc., and the dogs had a field day.
Half of my desk is now cleaner than it’s been in a while. And it smells good.
SMOTI and Geller got booted out of CPAC. L O L
Gateway Pundit says founder Jim Hoft was banned from CPAC panel because of his site’s attacks on the Parkland survivors pic.twitter.com/748DTdgj1P
— Will Sommer (@willsommer) February 21, 2018
“CPAC takes their marching orders from @ChelseaClinton.” 🤣 https://t.co/W8ZWqFwC4z
— (((David Mariutto))) (@DavidMariutto) February 21, 2018
A sentence I never thought to read: https://t.co/1B7MoMN6TS
— Chelsea Clinton (@ChelseaClinton) February 21, 2018
re: #356 Dr. Matt
SMOTI and Geller got booted out of CPAC. L O L
Chelsea is developing quite the snark game.
re: #346 MsJ
The wingnut thing needs to stand out more.
I wanted it to come off like the embossed symbol on anything plastic, metal or glass. They are often not clearly readable right off, you kind of have to study them, or rotate in the light to get a better read. So, I wanted that effect.
I will be using this idea again.
re: #358 ObserverArt
I wanted it to come off like the embossed symbol on anything plastic, metal or glass. They are often not clearly readable right off, you kind of have to study them, or rotate in the light to get a better read. So, I wanted that effect.
I will be using this idea again.
I love the idea but wingnuts don’t get subtle. It’s too easy to miss.
You are definitely on the right track, though. As always.
I’m a gun owner. There’s no doubt in my mind that we should:
1) Require universal background checks
2) Mandate a 48 hour waiting period for purchases
3) Ban military-style assault rifles, along with accessories like high-capacity magazines and bump stocks
This is common sense.— Randy Bryce (@IronStache) February 19, 2018
72 hours is even better. Consider it a cooling off period (and it lets NICS to do their thing and make sure all the data gets in.)
re: #357 Sir John Barron
Chelsea is developing quite the snark game.
And she barely even gets her hands dirty. Great to watch.
re: #324 The Ghost of a Flea
Not to be a wet blanket, but: a special election between a normal person and the wife of the previous office holder, the egomaniac sexual predator pastor of a “biker church,” who committed suicide after being credibly accused of assaulting a teenage girl that attended his church (and his church’s booze-and-drugs get-togethers).
Lived in that district. Your description of the GOP wife/candidate represented her advantages.
(Real problem: These are very small numbers.)
re: #356 Dr. Matt
That’s like David Duke getting kicked out of a Klan meeting.
“David Hogg didn’t attend Parkland high school. I went to school in with him in Saranac Lake, New York and he graduated in 1924. Here he is in our yearbook from 1924. He always wanted to work for the talkies and be a butter & egg man.” pic.twitter.com/us4gQCuj0K
— Charles Gaba (@charles_gaba) February 21, 2018
Somebody call the waaaambulance!
Homocon Fake News Blogger Jim Hoft Blames Chelsea Clinton After CPAC Bans Him For Parkland Attacks - https://t.co/jGEDwL5MJG pic.twitter.com/R7aEPF3W6v
— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) February 21, 2018
re: #365 DodgerFan1988
Please Chelsea, go after Fox “News” next.
Rush has some libertarian on the air right now saying we have a right to own machine guns “because I’m a Second Amendment absolutist.”
Consider me sold!
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re: #361 makeitstop
And she barely even gets her hands dirty. Great to watch.
It’s like watching a brutally mismatched fencing match.
re: #367 Ace Rothstein
Rush has some libertarian on the air right now saying we have a right to own machine guns “because I’m a Second Amendment absolutist.”
Consider me sold!
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If he’s a “second Amendment absolutist”, then he should be sporting a musket.
Milo is selling supplements on Infowars. This is not a drill. pic.twitter.com/zieQXOqtRi
— Ross McCafferty (@RossMcCaff) February 21, 2018
I thought he looked a little red https://t.co/H8SLqQohEM
— Brooke Binkowski (@brooklynmarie) February 21, 2018
re: #369 Dr. Matt
And registered with a state sanctioned militia / National Guard.
im seeing tweets from trumpers, looking at the videos we’re all seeing, and saying that theyre not kids protesting but in fact adults. this is who the msm insists we sit down with and have a rational discussion about important issues.
no.— Oliver Willis (@owillis) February 21, 2018
re: #323 Ace-o-aces
day two pic.twitter.com/wTy466cFTp
— Jared Holt (@jaredlholt) February 21, 2018
Secret footage of Jared Holt that InfoWars is trying to suppress pic.twitter.com/YvP4X3feh5
— Floppy Boot Stomp (@the_edwin_mix) February 21, 2018
re: #369 Dr. Matt
If he’s a “second Amendment absolutist”, then he should be sporting a musket.
And be in an actual approved militia that is heavily regulated.
You know, the “A well regulated militia” part of the 2A every fucking gun nut and GOP/NRA type seems to ignore.
The GOP/NRA are such strict constructionists/originalists, that they’ve written the very language of the 2A right out of the Constitution.
Young man that survived Pulse nightclub shooting is speaking and backing the kids and saying “we are done negotiating” (you can sign the “take no NRA money pledge” or get ready for your retirement).
Person before him was with The Brady Bill folks. Good to see all of these people banding together and supporting the students. Strength in numbers.
“This is what democracy looks like.” Tallahassee, Florida. pic.twitter.com/iZhqXnnNfO
— Peter Schorsch (@PeterSchorschFL) February 21, 2018
You know why right wing conspiracists are attacking these kids?
Because they are E-F-F-E-C-T-I-V-E.
Not political hacks. Not paid shills. Not indoctrinated. Not character actors.
They are young people of character compelled into action by a horrible crime that cost 17 lives. https://t.co/UYSOih3LXw— Ana Navarro (@ananavarro) February 21, 2018
Medium has suspended the accounts of Cernovich, Posobiec, and Loomer in disinformation crackdown https://t.co/AyUNQiceBo
— Jon Passantino (@passantino) February 21, 2018
Friends of the @nra “Industry Supprters” —> See here: https://t.co/m7pZ4xrGmQ #BoycottNRA and all affiliates! pic.twitter.com/7qj3XD4DbO
— Susan DuFresne (@GetUpStandUp2) February 19, 2018
All of these companies should be ashamed of themselves supporting the NRA. #NoRA https://t.co/c7sxqtKpO2
— Alyssa Milano (@Alyssa_Milano) February 21, 2018
re: #306 Ace-o-aces
….continued
And how do your parent’s introduce you?
“This is Art. Art posts ridiculous conspiracy theories on twitter because the chaos of reality frightens him and he wants desperately to believe some neigh omnipotent overlords control everything.”— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 21, 2018
re: #376 lawhawk
To use a phrase from Wm Wordsworth: The child is the father of the man. We should take notice of what these kids are doing. Ww should open our minds and support them.
re: #368 lizardofid
It’s like watching a brutally mismatched fencing match.
ive been on both sides of those
re: #380 PhillyPretzel
To use a phrase from Wm Wordsworth: The child is the father of the man. We should take notice of what these kids are doing. Ww should open our minds and support them.
I’m already there. They very well may succeed where so many others have failed.
Melania Trump’s parents are legal permanent residents, raising questions about whether they relied on ‘chain migra… https://t.co/DhhVHKd9gP
— Scott Wong (@scottwongDC) February 21, 2018
Of course they did, but they’re essential because someone needs to take care of Trump’s kid and his wife needs a place to get away from the Orange Abomination.
Kids have a chant: Hey-hey, ho-ho…NRA has got to go!
I agree.
I wonder what the NRA is thinking today? Afterall, gun sales to the younger generations may not be too good.
Is there a future for the NRA?
re: #376 lawhawk
You know why right wing conspiracists are attacking these kids?
Because they are E-F-F-E-C-T-I-V-E.
Not political hacks. Not paid shills. Not indoctrinated. Not character actors.
They are young people of character compelled into action by a horrible crime that cost 17 lives.
and because they are scared
re: #365 DodgerFan1988
Somebody call the waaaambulance!
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re: #383 Skip Intro
I think it’s important to remind people that the party that claims to be pro-family believes family stops at the border.
re: #367 Ace Rothstein
Rush has some libertarian on the air right now saying we have a right to own machine guns “because I’m a Second Amendment absolutist.”
Consider me sold!
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What well regulated militia does he belong to?
re: #382 makeitstop
I’m already there. They very well may succeed where so many others have failed.
its hard to argue with:
you’re the adults
adults make the laws
adults have the guns
adults are killing us
White House’s Sanders to attend Olympics closing ceremony: report
On our dime because why?
I’m hoping she defects to the North.
Fascinating NPR article from Dec 2016. I had not noticed this before; however, I feel certain that Bob Mueller is well aware of all these kinds of shenanigans.https://t.co/5dEJgLiECg
— Mac McKinsey (@psgent92264) February 21, 2018
I see some of my Christian relatives posting positive things about Billy Graham, and I have to keep telling myself De mortuis nil nisi bonum.
SPECIAL REPORT! https://t.co/O3zyzjtfEt
— Wonkette (@Wonkette) February 21, 2018
Well, we’ll, well… An (R) who wanted to replace Trent “Will You Be My Surrogate Baby Mama” Franks in Congress has his own sex scandal, involving Snapchat and topless pics.
This guy is also a minister at a very, very conservative Apostolic Assembly church in Surprise, AZ. In addition to being “oneness” (don’t ask me, too complicated for the phone), they also believe women shouldn’t cut their hair and married couples can’t divorce.
Whatta guy.
“I did not know Russian bots were promoting my campaign.”
“The real question to be asked is” why the Clinton campaign didn’t do something.
— @SenSanders
Listen live
➡️ https://t.co/lK28FIrEZ9— Vermont Public Radio (@vprnet) February 21, 2018
If this is an accurate protrayal of what he said, this is serious dumb. I don’t blame Sanders for this? But Hillary’s to blame? https://t.co/oFxbJxbhGQ
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) February 21, 2018
re: #394 Blind Frog Belly White
I see some of my Christian relatives posting positive things about Billy Graham, and I have to keep telling myself De mortuis nil nisi bonum.
I’ve kept my mouth shut about it as well.
re: #312 Dr. Matt
Idiots posting over on The Hill are absolutely losing their shit because high school kids are protesting. Some are claiming the minimum voting age should be 21 because 18 year olds are too emotional and immature. Let that sink in…..”adults” want to change the law because high school students are standing up for themselves.
The only way they know how to deal with real problems is to try and prevent people from voting.
re: #397 FormerDirtDart
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This wouldn’t surprise me, but I want a complete quote anyway. I don’t want to condemn him if it’s a bad quote — and if it’s an accurate quote, I want it hung around his neck ‘til the end of time.
re: #368 lizardofid
It’s like watching a brutally mismatched fencing match.
Chelsea has become a Zen-Master troll. She trolls without trolling. She can bring the right to a frothing apoplexy then elegantly step away. She has her mother’s sharpness and her father’s charm. Truly something to see.
CNN is hosting a debate with Dana Loesh? I hope these kids pass. They owe her and CNN jack shit. Seems like a setup. Dana Loesh is dishonest and not interested in debate. I hope these young warriors learn quick that the media is not their friend either.
NRA Board Member Ted Nugent Promotes “Crisis Actor” Conspiracy Claims About Parkland Massacre Survivors - https://t.co/BJheotoof3 pic.twitter.com/UaGcbmW0Fg
— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) February 21, 2018
I coulda been a Marine, I bet I would killed like a million o’ them Vietmacongs and won me the Congressional Metal Of Your Honor. But … I shit my pants instead.
— Guy Wearing Para Military Garb. https://t.co/kwp0mFslgl— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) February 21, 2018
re: #402 Amory Blaine
CNN is hosting a debate with Dana Loesh? I hope these kids pass. They owe her and CNN jack shit. Seems like a setup. Dana Loesh is dishonest and not interested in debate. I hope these young warriors learn quick that the media is not their friend either.
Sounds like a Gish Gallop opportunity.
re: #402 Amory Blaine
CNN is hosting a debate with Dana Loesh? I hope these kids pass. They owe her and CNN jack shit. Seems like a setup. Dana Loesh is dishonest and not interested in debate. I hope these young warriors learn quick that the media is not their friend either.
You mispelled ‘a vicious harpy’.
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re: #402 Amory Blaine
CNN is hosting a debate with Dana Loesh? I hope these kids pass. They owe her and CNN jack shit. Seems like a setup. Dana Loesh is dishonest and not interested in debate. I hope these young warriors learn quick that the media is not their friend either.
They seem bright and honest and have a mission. I am not putting my bets on Loesh. Let these kids do their thing.
re: #401 Ace-o-aces
Chelsea has become a Zen-Master troll. She trolls without trolling. She can bring the right to a frothing apoplexy then elegantly step away. She has her mother’s sharpness and her father’s charm. Truly something to see.
In fairness, most of that is just due to her maiden name being Clinton.
re: #312 Dr. Matt
Idiots posting over on The Hill are absolutely losing their shit because high school kids are protesting. Some are claiming the minimum voting age should be 21 because 18 year olds are too emotional and immature. Let that sink in…..”adults” want to change the law because high school students are standing up for themselves.
Kids who are 15 1/2 today will be 18 on Election Day 2020.
re: #356 Dr. Matt
SMOTI and Geller got booted out of CPAC. L O L
First they banned Milo, but I said nothing, because I am not a pedophile.
Then they banned Hoft and Pam G but I said nothing because I was not an idiot or an alcoholic Islamophobe…
By the time they came for me, there was nobody left but Nazis, misogynists and gunfuckers…
re: #397 FormerDirtDart
Oh, and we also know that you voted against the Russia sanctions (and Trump also refuses to implement the sanctions enacted by a bipartisan Congress by an overwhelming margin).
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 21, 2018
And yeah, Sanders (along with Ayn Rand Paul) were the lone No votes on the Russia sanctions in the Senate.
re: #397 FormerDirtDart
If this is an accurate protrayal of what he said, this is serious dumb. I don’t blame Sanders for this? But Hillary’s to blame?
not blame for causing it
i think its more like why didnt she fix it
as if it was somehow her responsibility
re: #409 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
First they banned Milo, but I said nothing, because I am not a pedophile.
Then they banned Hoft and Pam G but I said nothing because I was not an idiot or an alcoholic Islamophobe…
By the time they came for me, there was nobody left but Nazis, misogynists and gunfuckers…
PURGE!!…SOROS!!!…RINOS!!!
Everytown took out this 2-page ad in the NYT today listing off members of Congress, their phone numbers and how much NRA money they’ve taken https://t.co/Z5eOmWAvyH pic.twitter.com/9Ot8KYGJix
— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) February 21, 2018
re: #324 The Ghost of a Flea
Not to be a wet blanket, but: a special election between a normal person and the wife of the previous office holder, the egomaniac sexual predator pastor of a “biker church,” who committed suicide after being credibly accused of assaulting a teenage girl that attended his church (and his church’s booze-and-drugs get-togethers).
True, the GOP didn’t nominate its best. Its still impressive that Belcher got 68% of the vote in a district that gave 72% of its vote to Trump in 2016.
re: #402 Amory Blaine
CNN is hosting a debate with Dana Loesh? I hope these kids pass. They owe her and CNN jack shit. Seems like a setup. Dana Loesh is dishonest and not interested in debate. I hope these young warriors learn quick that the media is not their friend either.
Loesh is not a skilled debater. I would bet on her getting flustered, angry, shouty, and offensive. Wouldn’t put it past her to make some veiled death threat that’ll go over great with her bosses but will get her walked off the stage by the police.
re: #406 MsJ
But they have the upper hand and should play their position on their own terms. Not to say these aren’t bright young people, but we know who the RWNJ are. CNN set gives unfair advantage to rich lobbying groups. They are vipers. Needless to say, I am old and I will stay on the outside and root for them.
re: #406 MsJ
They seem bright and honest and have a mission. I am not putting my bets on Loesh. Let these kids do their thing.
yup
the optics will be miserable for her
re: #409 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
First they banned Milo, but I said nothing, because I am not a pedophile.
Then they banned Hoft and Pam G but I said nothing because I was not an idiot or an alcoholic Islamophobe…
By the time they came for me, there was nobody left but Nazis, misogynists and gunfuckers…
First they banned Milo, and I laughed
Then they banned SMOTI and I laughed
Then they banned Gellar and I lost my shit
By the time they came for me, I could only point and laugh.
re: #409 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
First they banned Milo, but I said nothing, because I am not a pedophile.
Then they banned Hoft and Pam G but I said nothing because I was not an idiot or an alcoholic Islamophobe…
By the time they came for me, there was nobody left but Nazis, misogynists and gunfuckers…
First they banned Milo, SMOTI, and Pammycakes, but I did not speak up because fuck those people.
The NRA needs this debate, not the protesters.
re: #416 Amory Blaine
I don’t trust CNN and their quest for ratings. That’s not to say the kids won’t be great. They already are great! But this just gives me some uneasy feelings.
re: #332 Hecuba’s daughter
Those more affluent Americans owning hybrid vehicles or electric cars wouldn’t be paying their share of costs if it’s paid only through fuel tax. We all benefit from improved roads and infrastructure. The fairest approach is to pay through income taxes — maybe a temporary added tax that increases by income level.
True, but when this is the only carbon tax Trump would sign, I would support it. Though its true that passing it in this context is regressive. Its too important to encourage zero emission vehicles to pass on a carbon tax Trump would actually sign.
re: #420 Amory Blaine
The NRA needs this debate, not the protesters.
Not necessarily a golden rule of politics, but at least a sterling silver rule of politics: if you’re demand (more) debates, you’re losing.
re: #420 Amory Blaine
The NRA needs this debate, not the protesters.
“we dont need to debate that our friends are dead”
re: #416 Amory Blaine
But they have the upper hand and should play their position on their own terms. Not to say these aren’t bright young people, but we know who the RWNJ are. CNN set gives unfair advantage to rich lobbying groups. They are vipers. Needless to say, I am old and I will stay on the outside and root for them.
The students are not going to run away from the NRA. Or, run away from Dana “Guns.”
In some ways I think they are doing now what many of us should have done all along.
And I have to say, some of the older journalists I am seeing around are really pissing me off. Many are acting all jaded and saying the NRA is too big and powerful and they have seen this before…so they are not convinced anything will come of this.
How about helping do some exposure on the NRA and how they got all that power and why it is doing nothing for anyone…even the gun owners. I know journalists need to stay neutral, but are some of you not covering this properly because you are judging results before they are in?
re: #415 scottslemmons
Loesh is not a skilled debater. I would bet on her getting flustered, angry, shouty, and offensive. Wouldn’t put it past her to make some veiled death threat that’ll go over great with her bosses but will get her walked off the stage by the police.
That’s how I figure it’ll go. Loesch makes her living being snotty, sarcastic and condescending. That’s the one note she knows how to play.
That might fly when she’s barking at other adults, but it’ll look like she’s bullying a bunch of high school kids. The gun nuts will eat it up, but normal, sane people will be horrified.
That’s the brilliance of the Parkland kids. Their age and earnestness changes the calculus altogether. The nut jobs and Trump cultists will not be able to pull the shit that they’ve been pulling forever.
Hell - D’Souza, Dim Jim and Pammyz have all been disavowed by CPAC! Could anyone have foreseen that before Emma Gonzalez started speaking out?
re: #372 FormerDirtDart
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I’ve been thinking this since reading that execrable David Brooks article about how we have to respect red staters first, then let them lead on gun legislation.
My first response is ‘fuck that’. My second, more thoughtful, response is ‘well, dehumanising our opponents isn’t a good way forward, and humans respond better to an open approach and a human face, rather than drawing a hard line in the sand’. My third response, after further thought, is ‘fuck that’.
On one hand, I know that when misguided people feel threatened and attacked, like that tearful woman in the Better Angels discussion who insisted ‘we’re people, not mindless drones’, they aren’t going to listen to anything. And I know that Trumpers and other assorted deplorables, for the most part, are still people - they might be this generation’s equivalent of good Germans, but that’s all the original good Germans were as well; people who were a protected group, turning a semi-deliberate blind eye to evil and helping it along for the sake of belonging. That might be evil, but it’s also human, and it’s a rare person who hasn’t done at least a mild version of that at some point in their life. I know I have.
And I also know that people can and do respond to calm, nonjudgemental discussion. I am constantly reminded of a flight I took when I was still very young, and I sat next to a random guy on this plane to Sydney. I was reading the paper, which was probably unusual enough for a teen, and I got to talking with this guy. It was around the time of the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, and I was still an insecure and somewhat homophobic teen, with a father who was extremely and angrily homophobic, and I remember making several disparaging and unpleasant comments about the Mardi Gras articles in the paper. This random older guy I was talking to didn’t get upset at me, didn’t make me feel stupid or bigoted, and just talked, asking me nonjudgemental questions and calmly reasoning through it. I didn’t have an epiphany then. I didn’t tell him he was right. He was probably appalled at this little shit with such bigoted views, and if we’d had Twitter, he might have posted something about how teens today are just as bad as the old conservative white bigots around us. But I changed, and grew up, and while I don’t know how much difference that one conversation made, I know that it was maybe an hour of my life, and yet years later, I still think about it. So wherever you are, random guy on plane, thank you for being reasonable and talking to me like a person. You made a big difference in at least one person’s life.
The problem with this idea, though, is that having a reasonable discussion with people who don’t share your reality is futile. And even if, while having that discussion, you do temporarily share reality, the first thing that happens after that discussion is that they go back to their private world where teenagers are crisis actors and Democrats eat babies on pizza and Obama and Clinton and Soros all conspired in Benghazi to collude with Russia to get Trump elected so they could take him down. And while I know that refusing to engage doesn’t improve that situation, I don’t see any action that does, short of removing them from their programming.
I could, if I had to, forgive someone’s blindness to their own privilege and their inaction in the face of evil, if I believed that their eyes could be opened. But I don’t. And nothing they say or do tells me that they could.
re: #356 Dr. Matt
SMOTI and Geller got booted out of CPAC. L O L
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re: #415 scottslemmons
Loesh is not a skilled debater. I would bet on her getting flustered, angry, shouty, and offensive. Wouldn’t put it past her to make some veiled death threat that’ll go over great with her bosses but will get her walked off the stage by the police.
Possibly, but this is CNN - if she does or says something awful, it will be ‘both sides’. More likely she will Gish Gallop and pull made-up statistics out which nobody will have ever heard of, and CNN can then make it look like she won. Gundamentalists have a lot of made up statistics.
Another variable for this CNN thing - if there’s a live audience, it could get pretty rowdy.
I’m still betting on the kids. They’ve already shown they can handle a little chaos.
re: #430 makeitstop
Another variable for this CNN thing - if there’s a live audience, it could get pretty rowdy.
I’m still betting on the kids. They’ve already shown they can handle a little chaos.
Another point in favor of having this ‘debate’ is that the kids will be face to face with cold-blooded absolute evil in the form of Ms. Dana. That will be a valuable experience.
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