The Atlantic Hires National Review Writer Who Called for Women Who Have Abortions to Be Hanged

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Well, here’s something horrible to start the day; in 2014, National Review writer Kevin D. Williamson stated on Twitter that he believed women who have abortions should be hanged — along with their doctors and nurses.

When I first saw these tweets, I was stunned because although it’s common to see this viewpoint expressed in far right comment sections, when a prominent National Review columnist says the same thing it’s highly disturbing. (Now, in the age of Trump, I look back at this as just one more sign of the degradation of the right that would eventually lead to this disgraceful administration.)

Williamson’s comments were so extreme that even some anti-choice activists denounced him.

A couple of years later, Williamson wrote about this incident at NRO, and actually accused me of “fabricating” his tweets — even though he made it very clear in the original exchanges that he really, seriously believed this.

And now, The Atlantic is announcing that they’re hiring Kevin D. Williamson as a columnist for their prestigious new section for opinions and analysis.

When someone expresses horrible misogynist views like this, they should be shunned by decent publications, not hired and featured as legitimate voices. This is a terrible, awful, no good move for The Atlantic, and one they’ll come to regret because Williamson is also infamous for many other types of extreme rhetoric.

Williamson has now deleted all of the tweets in question; but you can still read the text versions on this page, and here’s an archived copy of most of the exchange in which he makes it clear he’s not joking or being facetious in the least.

Shame on The Atlantic for contributing to the further legitimization of the worst people of the right wing.

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:17:11am

You’re practically singlehandedly providing proof that men can do better. The rest of them have no excuse.

/some of your lizards do OK, but I mean as a man ‘in the media’

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:18:06am

Unfu….

Nope. Totally fucking believable. No one seems to bother with checking anyone before they hire them. Media outlets are a whoring out their op-ed pages to anyone and everyone because eyeballs are what they’re after, no mater that they’re normalizing abhorrent and bigoted extremists.

We saw this at the NYT when they bring in right wingers. We see this at CNN and MSNBC and now we’re seeing this at The Atlantic.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:23:02am

So tired of this “both sides” BS from the media that endlessly bends over backwards to let these insane right wing nuts post their crackpot thoughts!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:24:16am

I used to subscribe to The Atlantic, it was one of my favorite publications along with Harper’s and The New Yorker

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Charles Johnson  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:27:28am
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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:29:12am
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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:31:22am

One small bright spot in this mess is that we no longer have to deal with a resident LGF wingnut bringing fresh Williamson-turds here and asking us how sweet they smell.

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:33:03am

I made this comment in the last thread Charles…

Charles…send those copies off to The Atlantic. Maybe they do not know his full history.

This could turn like the case of Quinn Martin at the New York Times.

I usually do not like people influencing others careers…but you know, sometimes it is the right thing to do. This guy is sleaze…he may have hidden it well enough for this hire.

So…

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:34:02am

re: #6 Kragar

Trump has the hubris characteristic of a tragic hero. However, Trump is no tragic hero, since he lacks any of the good points of a tragic hero that makes one care about the hero’s eventual fall.

When Trump falls, the universal reaction will be as if some monstrously deformed piece of shit has finally been jammed down the toilet with liberal and vigorous use of a plunger.

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KGxvi  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:35:56am

re: #6 Kragar

“Good riddance,” was the verdict of Sam Nunberg, the former Trump aide who recently made headlines with a flurry of television interviews in which he suggested he might defy a subpoena from the Mueller team to appear before a grand jury. (He later relented.)

Referring to Ty Cobb, the in-house White House counsel for the probe into Russian election meddling, Nunberg added, “Cobb should be fired next. Their strategy has hurt the president.”

I really feel like somebody needs to explain to these idiots that this isn’t some DUI charge that they can make go away by giving the DA a hard time. To use a baseball metaphor, that sort of thing is like Rookie League level stuff; this is major league playoff level shit you’re dealing with today.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:38:00am

re: #9 EPR-radar

Trump has the hubris characteristic of a tragic hero. However, Trump is no tragic hero, since he lacks any of the good points of a tragic hero that makes one care about the hero’s eventual fall.

When Trump falls, the universal reaction will be as if some monstrously deformed piece of shit has finally been jammed down the toilet with liberal and vigorous use of a plunger.

Trump is not a tragic hero. He’s Pantalone.

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:39:17am

bringing this up from downstairs cause i think it was left hanging

“The Truth is, they [#MarchForOurLives ] want to ban every gun in America. It’s just not politically savvy to admit it.” —Veteran U.S. Navy SEAL Dom Raso

the truth is no one would pay you or your guns any attention at all if all of you gun owners controlled all your weapons and acted responsibly at all times

instead you act recklessly and carelessly
and worse, you do it with an obvious and willful disregard for everyone else

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:39:22am
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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:39:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:42:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:43:22am
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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:44:40am

re: #10 KGxvi

I really feel like somebody needs to explain to these idiots that this isn’t some DUI charge that they can make go away by giving the DA a hard time. To use a baseball metaphor, that sort of thing is like Rookie League level stuff; this is major league playoff level shit you’re dealing with today.

The idiots advising Trump - and that’s a legal term - don’t know the first thing about the area of law they’re trying to advise Trump about.

They don’t know how to deal with impeachment and any number of federal criminal law provisions, whether it’s 18 USC 1001 or conspiracy against the US or RICO.

None on this legal team seem to know the first thing about this.

The competent lawyers who Trump would want to bring in - people like Ted Olson - want nothing to do with him.

The answer is multifold, but boils down to the fact that Trump wont listen to his legal team and will do his own thing that undermines the case and puts him in legal jeopardy on not only what he’s already alleged to have done, but opens up new avenues for criminal charges.

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:44:54am

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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the problem the NRA is facing now is their shtick wont stick

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:45:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:45:04am
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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:46:14am

So today defense stocks are having an extraordinarily good day. Now what’s that about, I wonder?

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:47:46am

re: #14 gocart mozart

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - there’s no way any of us are making it outta this without seeing Trump’s dong.

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:48:21am
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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:50:14am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:50:25am

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Will the #MSM ask @davidhogg111 about his #NRA-target, profanity-laden tirade? No.” —@stinchfield1776 pic.twitter.com

— NRATV (@NRATV) March 23, 2018

Good grief. This is really, really not a good look, guys.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:50:38am

his kiss of death spreads…

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:52:01am

re: #10 KGxvi

I really feel like somebody needs to explain to these idiots that this isn’t some DUI charge that they can make go away by giving the DA a hard time. To use a baseball metaphor, that sort of thing is like Rookie League level stuff; this is major league playoff level shit you’re dealing with today.

Almost forgot about this guy

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:53:24am

re: #10 KGxvi

I really feel like somebody needs to explain to these idiots that this isn’t some DUI charge that they can make go away by giving the DA a hard time. To use a baseball metaphor, that sort of thing is like Rookie League level stuff; this is major league playoff level shit you’re dealing with today.

No, no. Don’t tell them. Let them find out the hard way.

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:53:33am

re: #12 dangerman

bringing this up from downstairs cause i think it was left hanging

the truth is no one would pay you or your guns any attention at all if all of you gun owners controlled all your weapons and acted responsibly at all times

instead you act recklessly and carelessly
and worse with an obvious and willful disregard for everyone else

Dangerman…I like your push to make guns all about responsibility. But, it doesn’t cover one big aspect. The human element. Humans make decisions. One may be responsible and safe. Another totally unreasonable and dangerous. Both over the same thing at different times. Maybe even one moment to the next.

A gun can be safely stored and cared for right up to the minute the human goes off and forgets it all because they decide they are going to take out their hate.

Very much like we always make the point about a good guy with a gun right up to the point they are no longer a good guy…but they still have the gun.

I’m not sure if you are saying that even AR style rifles can be handled by making people responsible for them. I think what the students and many others are attempting is to take away the most powerful, efficient killing rifles because they do the most damage and are not needed for hunting, personal protection, etc.

Your “policies” are fine, but what happens if someone goes off in an irresponsible manner and either they or someone with their gun kills someone? They get prosecuted and punished for their infractions. The AR gun still killed a lot of people.

I don’t know if I made my point clear and how it fits with your thinking. I guess I see a combo of what you are saying still needing to be tied into elimination of certain guns/rifles.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:53:56am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:54:05am

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Will the #MSM ask @davidhogg111 about his #NRA-target, profanity-laden tirade? No.” —@stinchfield1776 pic.twitter.com

— NRATV (@NRATV) March 23, 2018

This is embarrassing.

The equivalent of the biggest football player on the team complaining to the principle that the smallest kid in school is making fun of him.

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Citizen K  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:55:27am

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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William Lewis  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:55:44am

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fucking NRA snowflakes. They need to grow the fuck up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:56:29am

LOL…sarah haz teh angries…

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KGxvi  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:58:06am

re: #24 Kragar

I heard that on Maddow last night as I was driving home. Don’t know how I didn’t swerve into the center divider.

That part of me that just wants to watch the world burn kind of wants to see it happen. But from a safe distance, like the south of France.

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:58:11am

re: #33 William Lewis

Fucking NRA snowflakes. They need to grow the fuck up.

These kids have got them so flummoxed. It’s pretty amazing to watch.

Also - funny how Dana’s not in this batch of whining videos, huh?

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:58:12am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

DC is cojones-less! White House&RINOs included. Spent us into oblivion today; claim to want input on spending our $ but ignore us 100% so what difference at this point does it make? Who’s as infuriated w/these weasels as I am? GOP cried for the pursestrings but SWAMP STILL SUCKS pic.twitter.com

— Sarah Palin

Ma’am, this is a Hardees drive-thru

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:58:21am

oh joy…

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William Lewis  Mar 23, 2018 • 11:58:53am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

As if she’d do anything else? Just different earmarks getting the coin is all.

Typical Republican “I know you’re lying ‘cause your lips are moving.”

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:00:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:00:15pm
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KGxvi  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:00:27pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL…sarah haz teh angries…

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I love hearing budget advice from a former half term governor of the most socialist state in the country… I mean, what else do you call a state that charges oil companies so much to extract natural resource that they can fund their government and give people money?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:00:58pm

I read on FB that it’s World Water Day. That’s great. Now all I can think of is…

Water Day this has been,
What a rare mood I’m in,
Why it’s almost like being in love!

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KGxvi  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:01:13pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh

My

GAWD

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:01:59pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:02:37pm

Man, being an asshole wingnut commentator sure is good job security.

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:02:53pm

From the previous thread:

RIGHT NOW: WH advance staffer rushes into press office: “Does anyone know how to make (stuff) bigger on the printer?”

Does this mean the Trump dick pic is about to come out? /// :)

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:04:20pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

his kiss of death spreads…

Have Ivanka go. She needs the experience.

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:05:23pm
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blueraven  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:05:26pm

re: #47 BlueSpotinAL

From the previous thread:

Does this mean the Trump dick pic is about to come out? /// :)

Please, no. Haven’t we suffered enough?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:05:34pm
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Belafon  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:06:44pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

Living through a shooting spree gives you the right to cuss on TV.

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:06:50pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Eat shit, Bob!

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:07:00pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL…sarah haz teh angries…

[Embedded content]

Sarah was just at Mar-a-Grifto last week praising Trump at an all GOP event. I wonder if she brought up the debt then?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:07:44pm

re: #52 Belafon

Living through a shooting spree gives you the right to cuss on TV.

Fucking’ A, man.

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:07:50pm

COMPROMISED!

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:08:28pm

re: #49 Kragar

You don’t have any friends Mike.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:08:55pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

GG is absolutely “journalistically” committed to the No Russian Collusion Hacking viewpoint.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:09:04pm

The best people.

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Citizen K  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:09:31pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

Then again, seems like a lot of these brilliant business minds seem to be learning these kinds of lessons from Trump.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:09:59pm

re: #59 goddamnedfrank

The best people.

[Embedded content]

Have Ben Carson’s wife order you a bigger printer.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:10:19pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

GG: Where is evidence of Russian hacking?

Person: This Gucifer dude who was reportedly the hacker has been tracked through the intertubes and found to be a GSR dude.

GG: This “evidence” is inconclusive and being spread by the same people that said WMD in Iraq!

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Citizen K  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:10:36pm

re: #59 goddamnedfrank

The best people.

[Embedded content]

I deal with these kind of people all the time at work. The fact that you have a WH staffer running in shouting that makes me even more concerned.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:11:36pm

re: #12 dangerman

In case no one has posted this link already to the march here in LA…
event.marchforourlives.com
Smart too.

By choosing to attend this event, you are committing to participate nonviolently and in accordance with the law, to work to de-escalate confrontations with others, and to obey the orders of authorized event marshals and of law enforcement. You also acknowledge that you are solely responsible for any injury or damage to your person or property resulting from or occurring during this event and that you release all event sponsors and organizers (and their officers, directors, employees, and agents) from any liability for that injury or damage.

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:11:54pm

Woah.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:11:55pm

re: #49 Kragar

Cernovich will forget this tweet and this subject within hours minutes and soon return to regaling us about all of Fuhrer Trump’s great deeds.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:12:36pm

re: #65 makeitstop

Woah.

How would he be impeached for signing a bill passed by a Republican Congress?

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:13:12pm

re: #67 Sir John Barron

How would he be impeached for signing a bill passed by a Republican Congress?

Forget it, Sir John, it’s Coulter-ville.

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:15:13pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:15:30pm

re: #65 makeitstop

Woah.

[Embedded content]

Baba Yaga is pissed.

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:15:34pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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calochortus  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:16:23pm

re: #68 makeitstop

Forget it, Sir John, it’s Coulter-ville.

That may be, but if FR is any guide, wingnuts are unhappy. Really unhappy.
The stupidity of teasing “maybe I’ll veto it” and turning around and signing it, with or without the threat of it being the last time, is remarkable. Even for Trump.

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:16:36pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:16:48pm

re: #36 makeitstop

These kids have got them so flummoxed. It’s pretty amazing to watch.

Also - funny how Dana’s not in this batch of whining videos, huh?

After months of videos where the NRA is threatening people, burning things, blowing things up, smashing stuff, suddenly some kids come along and start kicking sand in their faces and they’re freaking out.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:18:05pm

re: #73 Kragar

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What a fucking hypocritical prude piece of fucking shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:18:38pm
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Dave In Austin  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:18:52pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:19:03pm

re: #74 Sir John Barron

After months of videos where the NRA is threatening people, burning things, blowing things up, smashing stuff, suddenly some kids come along and start kicking sand in their faces and they’re freaking out.

Tomorrow will be War Room Day for them, sending out flittle-specked tweets and FB posts about how terribly mean the kids are being to them.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:20:39pm

re: #74 Sir John Barron

After months of videos where the NRA is threatening people, burning things, blowing things up, smashing stuff, suddenly some kids come along and start kicking sand in their faces and they’re freaking out.

I’m glad to see them scared.

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:22:00pm

re: #72 calochortus

That may be, but if FR is any guide, wingnuts are unhappy. Really unhappy.
The stupidity of teasing “maybe I’ll veto it” and turning around and signing it, with or without the threat of it being the last time, is remarkable. Even for Trump.

Those freaks pick the weirdest jumping-off points.

That said, may their anger grow and grow until R congress members can no longer ignore it.

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:22:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:24:32pm
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Belafon  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:24:35pm

re: #82 Kragar

I wish whoever they were talking to would have said “Not with all those guns going off you’re not” and then laughed.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:24:44pm

Oh oh. The Dow just fell off the cliff again this afternoon. MAGA!

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:25:00pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:25:03pm

“Liberals are preparing to take over the country, remove the duly-elected president from office, and shove all loyal Americans into camps into to institute their radical agenda!”

*video of young gun-control advocate saying naughty words*

“THAT HURT OUR FEELINGS!!!”

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:25:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:27:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:27:34pm

re: #88 Kragar

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Coffee. They were telling him to get coffee.//

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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:28:05pm
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A Mom Anon  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:28:22pm

re: #53 makeitstop

First thing that made me laugh all day. Thank you. “Eat Shit, Bob!” bwahahaha.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:28:31pm

re: #88 Kragar

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:28:38pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

“Liberals are preparing to take over the country, remove the duly-elected president from office, and shove all loyal Americans into camps into to institute their radical agenda!”

*video of young gun-control advocate saying naughty words*

“THAT HURT OUR FEELINGS!!!”

They’re all for telling it as until someone calls them goat fucking child molesters with apologies to Erick Erickson.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:30:10pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

“Liberals are preparing to take over the country, remove the duly-elected president from office, and shove all loyal Americans into camps into to institute their radical agenda!”

*video of young gun-control advocate saying naughty words*

“THAT HURT OUR FEELINGS!!!”

NRA 2009-2016:

True, patriotic Americans are preparing to overthrow the fraudulent president of the U.S. who is trying to destroy America by banning all guns and pledging allegiance to the caliphate of Kenya from which he was born, and we at the NRA are here to let all officeholders know we will overthrow them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:30:12pm

MrBWS just left on his first solo driving the Trailblazer since his heart attack and surgery.
It’s only about a 15-mile round trip to the grocery in town to pick up some stuff before the winter storm hits, but….

I feel like an anxious mom of a teenager…

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:31:11pm

re: #93 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The House Intelligence Committee has already declared NO COLLUSSION!

What more do you people want?

/

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Charles Johnson  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:32:17pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:32:39pm
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Belafon  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:33:08pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS just left on his first solo driving the Trailblazer since his heart attack and surgery.
It’s only about a 15-mile round trip to the grocery in town to pick up some stuff before the winter storm hits, but….

I feel like an anxious mom of a teenager…

My dad developed epilepsy while he was in Vietnam (PTSD we figure) and had a seizure a month through my younger childhood, tapering off as I got older. His last one was in 88, when I was a freshman in college. It was nearly a two decades after that before I stopped panicking when he would go out and be gone for longer than an hour.

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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:33:14pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:33:27pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:33:53pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:34:22pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:34:35pm

re: #23 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Sweet, sweet wingnut tears of impotent rage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:36:57pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:37:08pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

Was it just the other day when the NRA was conspiracy-theorizing that GEORGE SOROS was FUNDING ALL THE ANTI-GUN MARCH?

Now I see they’re returned to just attacking the kids directly.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:37:39pm

re: #99 gocart mozart

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You literally have Ted Nugent on your board of directors. Fucking fuck off you thin skinned hypocrites.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:37:51pm

re: #35 KGxvi

I heard that on Maddow last night as I was driving home. Don’t know how I didn’t swerve into the center divider.

That part of me that just wants to watch the world burn kind of wants to see it happen. But from a safe distance, like the south of France.

There is no safe distance.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:38:26pm

re: #107 Sir John Barron

Was it just the other day when the NRA was conspiracy-theorizing that GEORGE SOROS was FUNDING ALL THE ANTI-GUN MARCH?

Now I see they’re returned to just attacking the kids directly.

TBH I’m glad they’re attacking the kids because it shows what ugly people they are.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:39:10pm

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:39:38pm

re: #29 ObserverArt

Dangerman…I like your push to make guns all about responsibility. But, it doesn’t cover one big aspect. The human element. Humans make decisions. One may be responsible and safe. Another totally unreasonable and dangerous. Both over the same thing at different times. Maybe even one moment to the next.

A gun can be safely stored and cared for right up to the minute the human goes off and forgets it all because they decide they are going to take out their hate.

Very much like we always make the point about a good guy with a gun right up to the point they are no longer a good guy…but they still have the gun.

I’m not sure if you are saying that even AR style rifles can be handled by making people responsible for them. I think what the students and many others are attempting is to take away the most powerful, efficient killing rifles because they do the most damage and are not needed for hunting, personal protection, etc.

Your “policies” are fine, but what happens if someone goes off in an irresponsible manner and either they or someone with their gun kills someone? They get prosecuted and punished for their infractions. The AR gun still killed a lot of people.

I don’t know if I made my point clear and how it fits with your thinking. I guess I see a combo of what you are saying still needing to be tied into elimination of certain guns/rifles.

“…I guess I see a combo of what you are saying still needing to be tied into elimination of certain guns/rifles.”

yes i think this is right.

I tend to focus on responsibility / accountability because i think that’s the first, smallest, and easiest hill. its the nra’s position (or used to be). and it’s really hard to be “against” personal responsibility, after-you-screwed-up laws, though many twist themselves up trying.

my overall goal is reduction in the 30k or so annual gun deaths, from any means. suicides, crime, family violence, mass shootings. while we could write a constitutional amendment to say anything we want, nothing practical and substantial could ever pass. short of a massive sea change in power and sentiment, reduction is far more achievable than “elimination”.

you start making examples of reckless people and others may start to be have more responsibly. a significant portion of that will be how weapons are stored (or not) and who you sold or gave your gun to. While you have a right to keep and bear, no one is obligated to sell to you and you have no inherent right to sell, trade, or give to anybody you want.

it’s barely 40 days between the douglas shooting and their march tomorrow and there have been how many school incidents alone already? there is no way to know who is going to snap next or why. that’s why i focus on reduction of numbers and not how to stop the next specific one or keep the last specific circumstance from happening again. it’s where i start.

as for “bans”, i think “why somebody would want or need one” is a bad constitutional argument. and bans, in general are hard to implement and ensure participation. especially without opening up that whole “they’re coming for *all* your guns next” thing.

however, with the ar-15 i think the argument that it is an undressed military weapon with no “legitimate” civilian use is gaining traction. if it can be made clear it’s more like a machine gun than a deer rifle (deer rifle is rubio’s position), then maybe it’s possible in this environment. because no one disputes the rules around owning a machine gun.

i think many good ideas, ideas i agree with, would be very hard, if not impossible to implement. databases, registration, training requirements, periodic proficiency tests, insurance, storage rules.

it would be great if we got so far that those things were really on the table because that means we’re having a legitimate discussion of ideas. right now one side will not.

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calochortus  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:40:28pm

re: #107 Sir John Barron

Was it just the other day when the NRA was conspiracy-theorizing that GEORGE SOROS was FUNDING ALL THE ANTI-GUN MARCH?

Now I see they’re returned to just attacking the kids directly.

It’s more efficient.
/

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:42:25pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

TBH I’m glad they’re attacking the kids because it shows what ugly people they are.

NRA: The Soros bashing sounded lame even to us.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:42:26pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Yep. Let them run themselves into the ground. Please proceed NRA, please.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:42:53pm

This happened Wednesday night but I completely missed it till today.
FBI investigating fiery, fatal crash after gate breached at Travis Air Force Base
Apparently the car crashed the gate and blew up, killing the driver. Witnesses have said it was loaded with propane tanks, but the Air Force and FBI have not confirmed that. They have also not said whether shots were fired. If it is a terrorist, the NRA and ammosexual lobby will be pleased that the weapon was an improvised (though ineffective) bomb rather than a gun. It really only proves that even the dimmest psycho would know that taking on AF Security Police with an AR-15 will probably not bring the desired results.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:42:54pm

re: #111 Skip Intro

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Almost forgot about the Obama Shadow Government.

Why won’t MSM report on?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:45:38pm

U.S. Attorney Russell Coleman announced at a news conference Friday that a federal grand jury returned indictments on 23 individuals for felony firearms violations this week, continuing a joint partnership of local and federal officials to incarcerate the most violent repeat offenders in Louisville.

These local arrests made this week by the Louisville Metro Police Department in conjunction with the federal ATF included federal charges such as illegal firearms possession by a felon, using firearms in the furtherance of a drug trafficking crime, and being an unlawful user of a controlled substance while in possession of a firearm.

Colman also announced additional criminal complaints against two Tennessee residents for a conspiracy to steal nearly 100 firearms from gun dealers in Owensboro and Bowling Green.

“We’re here to fulfill a promise,” said Coleman. “We’re here to make another deposit in a promise made from this podium a few months ago, and that is to have an impact on violent crime, working collaboratively — federal, state and local — to push back on the violent crime across our community here in Louisville.”

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:46:02pm

re: #65 makeitstop

Woah.

” I will never sign another bill like this again”

Yeah, because you’ll be impeached.

seriously - is she suggesting

if he signs another bill like this he’d be impeached

or he’s getting impeached already

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:46:08pm

re: #115 A Mom Anon

Yep. Let them run themselves into the ground. Please proceed NRA, please.

I’d love to see it.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:46:57pm

re: #119 dangerman

seriously - is she suggesting

if he signs another bill like this he’d be impeached

or he’s getting impeached already

She thinks he’ll be impeached. Proving to me she didn’t care about Trump colluding until she felt he betrayed the right.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:47:17pm
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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:49:25pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Why should we make excuses for these people? Why? I’m so tired of making excuses for old white men. Fucking hell

she cursed therefore she’s totally not credible

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Cheechako  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:49:37pm

re: #42 KGxvi

I love hearing budget advice from a former half term governor of the most socialist state in the country… I mean, what else do you call a state that charges oil companies so much to extract natural resource that they can fund their government and give people money?

Yes, we do get a (reduced) dividend from oil revenue deposited in our Permanent Fund.
But, via our shitty tax laws, we pay the oil companies for the “privilege” for removing our resources. Just another example of privatizing the profits and socializing the costs.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:50:35pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

She thinks he’ll be impeached. Proving to me she didn’t care about Trump colluding until she felt he betrayed the right.

Hmmm, yeah maybe I misread her response as suggesting that ‘the next time he signs a bill like this’ he would be impeached. But maybe she is saying that he’ll already have been impeached. I don’t see that happening even if Congress changes hands next year (and it seems especially hard to see the Senate flipping substantially given all the seats Dems are defending).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:51:43pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fuck the NRA.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:52:02pm

re: #125 Sir John Barron

Hmmm, yeah maybe I misread her response as suggesting that ‘the next time he signs a bill like this’ he would be impeached. But maybe she is saying that he’ll already have been impeached. I don’t see that happening even if Congress changes hands next year (and it seems especially hard to see the Senate flipping substantially given all the seats Dems are defending).

That’s how I read it but I’m inclined to agree with your take.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:52:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:53:13pm

re: #126 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Fuck the NRA.

Seriously. I hope the comedy writers see this and mock the fuckers. Yes I’m intentionally swearing but damn it I’m in a good mood, got off early.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:53:14pm

On a much happier note, today is my amazing son’s 24th birthday. He just left to head into Atlanta to see Watain tonight and meet up with some friends. And while he annoys the daylights out of me sometimes (he’s not at all generous, lazy-except at work and in paying his bills on time, nothing that unusual for a 24 yr old I suppose), I could not be more proud of him. Never ceases to amaze me, ever.

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calochortus  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:53:23pm

re: #125 Sir John Barron

Hmmm, yeah maybe I misread her response as suggesting that ‘the next time he signs a bill like this’ he would be impeached. But maybe she is saying that he’ll already have been impeached. I don’t see that happening even if Congress changes hands next year (and it seems especially hard to see the Senate flipping substantially given all the seats Dems are defending).

I believe that if Trump continues to stoke economy killing trade wars and Bolton pushes him toward actual war, there may be some Repubs eager to see him go. We can hope, anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:54:08pm
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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:54:16pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:55:17pm

re: #133 Kragar

“Protests, walk outs and town halls never have and never will keep us safe

Dude’s really giving the Tea Party a hard time.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:55:59pm

re: #104 gocart mozart

Wormtail….

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:56:26pm

re: #133 Kragar

“Protests, walk outs and town halls never have and never will keep us safe … and evil does not care about your views on guns. The only thing that matters to evil, is if you can stop it before it kills you or someone you love.”

Ah, “someone you love”.

I can imagine that if some people did not own guns there would be more people alive who were loved by someone.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:56:56pm

re: #133 Kragar

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:57:02pm

re: #133 Kragar

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Or the Vietnam War, oh wait, I forgot these far-right nutters think we totally would have “won” there if it hadn’t been for those smelly hippies turning people against the war.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:57:35pm

re: #133 Kragar

The only thing that matters to evil, is if you can stop it before it kills you or someone you love.”

What does this even mean?

We can’t read the minds of “evil”. But we can restrict the possible harm evil can do.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:58:34pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

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Ugh, THAT should be hidden; my eyes are burning!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 12:59:42pm

re: #139 Sir John Barron

What does this even mean?

“Evil” = Black and Brown people.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:00:06pm

re: #133 Kragar

“The only thing that will keep us safe is….*squints at notecard*….moar gunz.”

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:00:12pm

“Protests, walkouts, and town hall are totally wrong…unless we’re using them to protest a black guy in the White House, then you’re totally anti-American for criticizing them!”

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:00:29pm

re: #133 Kragar

It wasn’t guns that ended the British occupation of India or Apartheid in South Africa.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:00:43pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

Or the Vietnam War, oh wait, I forgot these far-right nutters think we totally would have “won” there if it hadn’t been for those smelly hippies turning people against the war.

I have yet to get a cogent answer to “Define ‘win’ in this context”.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:00:56pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:02:08pm

re: #119 dangerman

seriously - is she suggesting

if he signs another bill like this he’d be impeached

or he’s getting impeached already

The latter, I think.

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:02:24pm

re: #133 Kragar

“Protests, walk outs and town halls never have and never will keep us safe … and evil does not care about your views on guns. The only thing that matters to evil, is if you can stop it before it kills you or someone you love.”

see this part i bolded
AND underlined
AND italicized

when have you or the NRA made a suggestion that would STOP a shooting before it starts? certainly not in the last 40 days.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:03:59pm

re: #144 Belafon

It wasn’t guns that ended the British occupation of India or Apartheid in South Africa.

Careful, or they’ll demand you thank White People for putting a stop to something White People were doing that they shouldn’t have.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:04:27pm

re: #148 dangerman

see this part i bolded
AND underlined
AND italicized

when have you or the NRA made a suggestion that would STOP a shooting before it starts? certainly not in the last 40 days.

Because they’re not interested in stopping shootings before they start, since doing so means taking actions that would hurt gun sales. No, they are totally okay with shootings being started, because then they can sell more guns as “deterrents.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:04:53pm

re: #131 calochortus

I believe that if Trump continues to stoke economy killing trade wars and Bolton pushes him toward actual war, there may be some Repubs eager to see him go. We can hope, anyway.

What is the over/under on how long it will take us to be at war with Iran or North Korea I wonder? I’ll go six months.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:06:20pm

obvious transporter malfunction

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:07:12pm

“Hey guys, you know how we elected that guy who always betrays people. HE BETRAYED US!”

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:07:46pm

re: #150 Targetpractice

Because they’re not interested in stopping shootings before they start, since doing so means taking actions that would hurt gun sales. No, they are totally okay with shootings being started, because then they can sell more guns as “deterrents.”

but but but but he just said before evil kills me//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:07:57pm

re: #151 Big Beautiful Door

What is the over/under on how long it will take us to be at war with Iran or North Korea I wonder? I’ll go six months.

I’m of two minds on this. Trump REALLY LIKES the dick-waving belligerence, but I think he’s afraid of actually committing troops and all to a real, serious shooting war. But I might be wrong. I just see him as a blowhard who’ll worry about what happens to his popularity (what’s left of it) if a lot of Americans start dying.

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:09:10pm

re: #154 dangerman

but but but but he just said before evil kills me//

You sarc that, but, you could throw that back with “So, what you’re saying is that we should go ahead and ban military style weapons because worrying about how people react when we do is useless. Thanks.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:09:58pm

re: #155 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m of two minds on this. Trump REALLY LIKES the dick-waving belligerence, but I think he’s afraid of actually committing troops and all to a real, serious shooting war. But I might be wrong. I just see him as a blowhard who’ll worry about what happens to his popularity (what’s left of it) if a lot of Americans start dying.

Yes, but Bolton really, really wants to bomb North Korea and Iran, and he is canny enough to know how to manipulate Trump.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:11:11pm

Report this POS…. Please?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:11:38pm
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Ace-o-aces  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:13:05pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:14:42pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

After an investigation by my office, @BankOfAmerica @MerrillLynch will pay a record $42 million penalty to the state of NY for fraudulent practices connected to its electronic trading services.

and probably only represents a small fraction of the profits they made.

just like any 100 kilo cocaine bust represents only a small fraction of the volume they smuggle in successfully

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:16:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:17:03pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I forget Donald, how many of your family served. My uncle Stan was what people like you call an anchor baby and enlisted in 1940. My cousin Mike was an immigrant and is in an iconic American image with a Texan, Kentuckian, French Canadian American, Pima Indian American, & an Irish American.

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Jay C  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:19:01pm

re: #160 Ace-o-aces

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So is this Laura Ingraham’s Boogeyman-Of-The-Day list as to who’s going to be “happy” by the budget bill? Chuck Schumer, Planned Parenthood and Jerry Brown? Geez, Laura, why not toss in George Soros, Al-Qaeda, and the Communists while you’re at it?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:21:21pm

Afternoon/Evening Lizardim.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:22:14pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

I forget Donald, how many of your family served. My uncle Stan was what people like you call an anchor baby and enlisted in 1940. My cousin Mike was an immigrant and is in an iconic American image with a Texan, Kentuckian, French Canadian American, Pima Indian American, & an Irish American.

Ditto with my parents (my father would have been called an anchor baby by today’s wingnuts).

Commander Bone Spurs still hasn’t figured out a stealth fighter isn’t Wonder Woman’s invisible plane yet. I don’t think he should be talking about the military at all if he can’t get the terminology correct /NRApedant

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:22:28pm

re: #73 Kragar

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Hahahahahahahahahaaaaa.

Alex Jones called someone a bully.

Oh, that Alex, such a joker.

(Looks like the wingnut talking points are out…teens going to liberal orgy in DC to cuss and swear and take our Constitution Amendments in vain!!!!)

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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:22:35pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:22:58pm

re: #167 ObserverArt

Hahahahahahahahahaaaaa.

Alex Jones called someone a bully.

Oh, that Alex, such a joker.

(Looks like the wingnut talking points are out…teens going to liberal orgy in DC to cuss and swear and take our Constitution Amendments in vain!!!!)

Jones is such a delicate flower.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:23:31pm

re: #164 Jay C

So is this Laura Ingraham’s Boogeyman-Of-The-Day list as to who’s going to be “happy” by the budget bill? Chuck Schumer, Planned Parenthood and Jerry Brown? Geez, Laura, why not toss in George Soros, Al-Qaeda, and the Communists while you’re at it?

Saul Alinsky practically crafted this bill.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:23:58pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

jGwEx1BtrdQcPT9H8r6nDX3Q1YJQ41oj3uzvWwScxd+3lz/dIItXL1dJuJQPhmhBkL7epQfbwli54EPz//IwSA==

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:24:26pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The Democrats don’t believe in that” says the President of the military.

— Phil Elliott

Remind me, when exactly did you or your sons serve?

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:24:56pm

re: #77 Dave In Austin

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Oh yeah…Charles is getting some boost on this page!

Good.

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:25:39pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

@AP
BREAKING: Dow Jones industrials sink 425 points, closing out their worst week in two years and extending weekly drop to 1,400.

politico 6 weeks ago

Before drop, Trump boasted about the stock market once every 35 hours

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:25:54pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, so what is it Democrats don’t believe? I’m assuming there’s a picture or a tweet that I can’t see.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:25:56pm

re: #171 Anymouse 🌹

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And female, my niece is my pride and joy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:26:20pm

re: #168 gocart mozart

A fork of the blockchain would be a metal chain affixed to a cinder block?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:29:13pm

re: #167 ObserverArt

Hahahahahahahahahaaaaa.

Alex Jones called someone a bully.

Oh, that Alex, such a joker.

(Looks like the wingnut talking points are out…teens going to liberal orgy in DC to cuss and swear and take our Constitution Amendments in vain!!!!)

Scary Rebecca Shoenkopf has arrived, Wonkette drinky thingy (as they call them) scheduled for tonight in DC.

We Are In DC

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:29:38pm

re: #111 Skip Intro

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y’all saw this part, right?

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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:29:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:31:23pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

And female, my niece is my pride and joy.

She is a cutie. With a smart and empathetic person like you around, she should turn out just fine.

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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:31:56pm
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nines09  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:32:29pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:34:23pm

I realize it may seem small compared to the “hanging” item, but Kevin Williamson is also the guy that threw everybody struggling with opiod addiction and poverty in Kentucky under the fucking bus by accusing them of being entitled and wanting handouts and having a sick culture that…well, you know the rest because it’s the coded language used to dismiss black folks as deserving of their suffering.

And there was his dogwhistle-filled, in-dialect piece about being yelled at by a child in East St. Louis.

This man is not intelligent, nor observant, and barely gets over the Buckley-hurdle of couching his prejudices in larger words. That he worked for National Review is a representation that it has continued to wear the hollowed-out carcass of erudition and analysis while providing exactly the same fallacy-dense, pseudo-intellectual pap that sustains the Breitbart readership.

He’s yet another “anti-Trump” figure that objects on aesthetic grounds—preferring burlesque to the donkey show—while indulging in the same bad faith, the same self-indulgent conflation of “reality” and “my hurt feelings and insecurities.” He yet another “conservative” who’s grasp of tradition extends as far as pillaging the past to finds excuses to impose his wants on others. Meaner, stupider David Brooks.

The Atlantic should be embarrassed.

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:34:46pm

re: #182 gocart mozart

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first you gotta define “sandwich”
cause apparently, yesterday both pop tarts and ravioli were gonna qualify

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:34:51pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:37:12pm

re: #182 gocart mozart

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Reuben.

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Jay C  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:39:16pm

re: #174 dangerman

politico 6 weeks ago

TBH, while the recent selloff(s) in the stock market have been “negative news” (well, except for the handy side-bonus of making Donald Trump look like even more of an idiot than usual): the downtrends in the equity markets in general are (just IMO) not all that much to worry about: yet.
Check out the “1 year” graphs - all the indexes show a virtually identical pattern: an accelerated upturn since last summer: boosting markets to record highs in January (‘18), and a jerky, roller-coaster downtrend since then. But still not selling off down to last fall’s levels (and all equity indexes still showing positive growth in that 1-year period.). I think there still is going to be a little more room to fall from here based on simple market dynamics: but it probably isn’t going to be a worrisome sign for the general economy just yet.
One hopes.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:39:33pm

re: #181 Anymouse 🌹

She is a cutie. With a smart and empathetic person like you around, she should turn out just fine.

She’s got my brother too and his wife. She’s a great kid.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:40:39pm

re: #185 dangerman

first you gotta define “sandwich”
cause apparently, yesterday both pop tarts and ravioli were gonna qualify

Last time we were at Costco, they had Tikka Masala “Naanwiches”, from Sukhi’s, which were like what you always wanted Hot Pockets to be, but that they never were.

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Scout  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:40:42pm

This is just a gut feeling on my part, but I think his deep CA ties will sink Bolton’s appointment, that trump will end up going with someone else.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:41:16pm

re: #49 Kragar

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:41:28pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

Reuben.

I would only eat one spelled correctly. Thank you.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:43:15pm

re: #185 dangerman

first you gotta define “sandwich”
cause apparently, yesterday both pop tarts and ravioli were gonna qualify

Also, nobody eats ravioli with their bare hands.

Well, nobody civilized.

Though I guess requiring that the starch-cloaked foodstuff be eaten with the hands would be problematic for that mainstay of cafeteria cooking, the “Open Faced Sandwich”.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:43:55pm

re: #191 Scout

This is just a gut feeling on my part, but I think his deep CA ties will sink Bolton’s appointment, that trump will end up going with someone else.

It’s a non confirmed appointment justblike Bannon and Javanka, meaning Johnny Pornstache is here to stay as long as Trump likes him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:44:28pm

re: #191 Scout

This is just a gut feeling on my part, but I think his deep CA ties will sink Bolton’s appointment, that trump will end up going with someone else.

National Security Adviser does not require Senate confirmation.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:44:44pm

re: #184 The Ghost of a Flea

This man is not intelligent, nor observant, and barely gets over the Buckley-hurdle of couching his prejudices in larger words. That he worked for National Review is a representation that it has continued to wear the hollowed-out carcass of erudition and analysis while providing exactly the same fallacy-dense, pseudo-intellectual pap that sustains the Breitbart readership.

The National Review was always a piece of racist trash, originally run by someone who used 10 dollar words to conceal his total dishonesty. It was Breitbart before Breitbart.

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ckkatz  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:44:58pm

On the possible upcoming war, here’s my guess…

Seems to me that the first question is whether it will be a 41 war or a 43 war.

The Bush 41 “First Gulf War” was probably inadvertent, due to a screw-up by some Bush 41 representatives who seemed to indicate to Saddam that it was okay to invade Kuwait.

The Bush 43 “Second Gulf War” invasion of Iraq was a deliberate war with specific political purposes in mind.

If we are facing a 41 war, the timing will be ‘unpredictable’.

If it is a 43 war, the timing will likely be in the spring when campaigning becomes easier. The year it occurs will be dependent upon the political goals. To affect the midterms, this year. To affect the next presidential election, next year. To affect the Mueller investigation, this year or next.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:45:27pm

re: #193 wrenchwench

I would only eat one spelled correctly. Thank you.

Hey, if it’s got good corned beef and rye bread, I don’t give a rip how it’s spelled, I’ll eat it.

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:45:47pm

re: #192 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They’ll do more for all of us, not just Liberals. Trump is a con-man, and we all knew it during the demagogue’s bizarre hate-campaign, but the radicalized right made this maniac President anyway.

dems tend to offer broad based solutions like, say, health ins coverage, or DACA

and they dont tend to lie like “tax cuts for everyone” which really means big ones for a few and all the rest are tiny and temporary

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:46:25pm

re: #197 Hecuba’s daughter

The National Review was always a piece of racist trash, originally run by someone who used 10 dollar words to conceal his total dishonesty. It was Breitbart before Breitbart.

Yes, but it’s Breitbart for intellectual racists.

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:48:26pm

re: #201 Blind Frog Belly White

Yes, but it’s Breitbart for intellectual racists.

Or, as they’d put it, “race realists”.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:48:33pm

re: #201 Blind Frog Belly White

Yes, but it’s Breitbart for intellectual racists.

Yep.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:49:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:50:47pm

re: #202 TedStriker

Or, as they’d put it, “race realists”.

They had Derbyshire nuff said.

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:52:14pm

re: #199 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, if it’s got good corned beef and rye bread, I don’t give a rip how it’s spelled, I’ll eat it.

Have you no standards, Bind Fog Berry Whit?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:53:18pm

re: #192 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Please note I am not making light of speech impediments. Just Mike’s.

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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:55:10pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:55:18pm

re: #199 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, if it’s got good corned beef and rye bread, I don’t give a rip how it’s spelled, I’ll eat it.

I like my dry humor on wry bread.

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:56:24pm

re: #209 Unshaken Defiance

I like my dry humor on wry bread.

+ a bunch

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:56:27pm

re: #182 gocart mozart

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I’d feast on Fat Sal’s Big Fat Fatty!

The Big Fat Fatty Challenge

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:58:18pm

re: #206 wrenchwench

Have you no standards, Bind Fog Berry Whit?

Only gustatory.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:58:30pm

Well, one argument around here settled.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:58:56pm

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹

Well, one argument around here settled.

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The Notorious RBG has spoken!

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:59:01pm

re: #182 gocart mozart

One that takes a real long time to make.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 1:59:51pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:00:01pm

re: #208 gocart mozart

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As someone who has paid to see the Talking Heads perform live, I was not expecting to enjoy that. I very much did.

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:00:05pm

re: #211 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’d feast on Fat Sal’s Big Fat Fatty!

[Embedded content]

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:00:08pm

re: #182 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

re: #182 gocart mozart

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“You’re calling for the president’s death! SOMEBODY CALL THE SECRET SERVICE!”

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:01:19pm

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹

Well, one argument around here settled.

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Proving that she’s True Neutral.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:01:34pm

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹

Well, one argument around here settled.

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This is the biggest disagreement I’ve had with a liberal SCOTUS judge since Sotomayor declared her Yankees fandom./:

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:02:01pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

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For which she will never apologize, and if cornered will insist that even if it was a hoax, there was a hint of truth to it or that Hillary was such a bad candidate that it was possible to be fooled by a hoax.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:02:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:04:44pm

re: #222 Targetpractice

For which she will never apologize, and if cornered will insist that even if it was a hoax, there was a hint of truth to it or that Hillary was such a bad candidate that it was possible to be fooled by a hoax.

That bad candidate who took three million more votes than all the others together, and could only be defeated by another political party’s organisation, plus concerted rodent copulation by a data firm owned by billionaires, a social media environment where the libertarian techbros lied about information spread across their networks, and a foreign intelligence service.

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Scout  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:04:46pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

It’s a non confirmed appointment justblike Bannon and Javanka, meaning Johnny Pornstache is here to stay as long as Trump likes him.

re: #196 Blind Frog Belly White

National Security Adviser does not require Senate confirmation.

Thanks for the replies, but I said “appointment,” not “nomination.” I think trump will end up appointing someone else.

But I also said it’s just a gut feeling, so take it with a grain of salt.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:05:54pm

re: #225 Anymouse 🌹

That bad candidate who took three million more votes than all the others together, and could only be defeated by another political party’s organisation, plus concerted rodent copulation by a data firm owned by billionaires, a social media environment where the libertarian techbros lied about information spread across their networks, and a foreign intelligence service.

“If they’d just nominated Bernie, we would have won the election!”

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:06:52pm

re: #211 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’d feast on Fat Sal’s Big Fat Fatty!

[Embedded content]

if you put the top on the bottom is it still a sammy?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:07:17pm

re: #227 Targetpractice

“If they’d just nominated Bernie, we would have won the election!”

I love how they use hypothetical polls they say they prove Bernie would win while ignoring that they’d be furious if polls pointed out he’d lose.

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:08:25pm

I lost my hat three hours ago. I just found it on the foot-tall stack of catalogs under my desk. OK, it’s nearly knee-high. Time to clean up.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:09:43pm

re: #191 Scout

This is just a gut feeling on my part, but I think his deep CA ties will sink Bolton’s appointment, that trump will end up going with someone else.

I think it will be the mustache.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:10:34pm

re: #226 Scout

Thanks for the replies, but I said “appointment,” not “nomination.” I think trump will end up appointing someone else.

I just don’t see it. Tbh.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:11:06pm

re: #153 Ace-o-aces

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:11:09pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:11:38pm

re: #228 dangerman

if you put the top on the bottom is it still a sammy?

The Big Fat Fatty is in a class by itself!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:11:41pm

re: #226 Scout

Thanks for the replies, but I said “appointment,” not “nomination.” I think trump will end up appointing someone else.

But I also said it’s just a gut feeling, so take it with a grain of salt.

Just wanted to make sure, because I’ve seen people saying the Senate should block him.

On Cambridge Analytica, I think if Trump has to treat that as a non-story, because he’s up to his hips in it. But you never know. He just does stuff, with very little rhyme or reason.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:11:56pm

And from the wingnut gun group that makes the NRA look sane, along with a response from Ted Deutch:

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:13:39pm

re: #230 wrenchwench

I lost my hat three hours ago. I just found it on the foot-tall stack of catalogs under my desk. OK, it’s nearly knee-high. Time to clean up.

The catalogues are there to hold up your hat when you’re not wearing it, like a matchbook under a wobbly table with a short leg?

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:15:54pm

The Bros will never acknowledge the Russian rodent copulation because it totally invalidates their entire reason for a Bernie nomination being magical in 2016, i.e. that he was the only “popular” candidate and Hillary’s loss was totally due to her being a deeply flawed one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:16:38pm

re: #236 Blind Frog Belly White

Just wanted to make sure, because I’ve seen people saying the Senate should block him.

On Cambridge Analytica, I think if Trump has to treat that as a non-story, because he’s up to his hips in it. But you never know. He just does stuff, with very little rhyme or reason.

The Senate does have to confirm the National Security Advisor when that person is in the military, due to laws surrounding military personnel and civilian government service. (That is why HR McMaster had to be approved, but Condoleeza Rice did not.)

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:17:16pm

All of us in my office are almost crying we are laughing so hard. Gun Vloggers are upset YouTube is thinning their ranks. So they went and got mad, flounced off to a new online home. I would not have guessed where in a million years.

Pornhub.
No direct links obviously…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:18:30pm

re: #241 Unshaken Defiance

All of us in my office are almost crying we are laughing so hard. Gun Vloggers are upset YouTube is thinning their ranks. So they went and got mad, flounced off to a new online home. I would not have guessed where in a million years.

Pornhub.
No direct links obviously…

Just another way to get their guns off on Pornhub!

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:18:37pm

re: #220 goddamnedfrank

Proving that she’s True Neutral.

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a side split hot dog bun, separated. with the top on top and the bottom on the bottom is a sandwich

top split buns, unseparated side split buns, anything else - not a sandwich

open faced “sandwiches” are not sandwiches
while made of the same parts, they are actually some sort of deconstruction
whether it was first actually built as a sandwich structure or not

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:20:26pm
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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:21:11pm

re: #227 Targetpractice

“If they’d just nominated Bernie, we would have won the election!”

bernie would have been nominated if he got more votes than hillary

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:21:29pm
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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:22:57pm

OT but I had an old EdSullivan show on while lurking and Vanilla Fudge came on nd just wailed. There’s a couple on now doing a ballet and they look quite graceful.

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William Lewis  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:23:38pm

re: #241 Unshaken Defiance

All of us in my office are almost crying we are laughing so hard. Gun Vloggers are upset YouTube is thinning their ranks. So they went and got mad, flounced off to a new online home. I would not have guessed where in a million years.

Pornhub.
No direct links obviously…

One semi-reasonable group - InrangeTV is one of the leaders of this. I had thought better of them as they have generally been technologly & history focused, avoiding politics, in the past. Knowing the two there, I am sure the choice of Pornhub was very intentional.

From NPR: npr.org

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:23:50pm

re: #243 dangerman

a side split bun, separated. with the top on top and the bottom on the bottom is a sandwich

top split buns, unseparated side split buns, anything else - not a sandwich

open faced “sandwiches” are not sandwiches
while made of the same parts, they are actually some sort of deconstruction
whether it was first actually built as a sandwich structure or not

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:23:56pm

re: #242 Joe Bacon

Just another way to get their guns off on Pornhub!

“I just go to Pornhub for the gun videos” is the new “I just buy Playboy for the articles”.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:24:01pm

As far as I’m concerned the Kentucky Hot Brown is a sandwich

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:24:36pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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im not sure i see how her former status with the black panthers has anything to do with her being 72 years old and knocked down by a councilwoman causing her injuries

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:26:01pm

And now you got me hungry for my Pittsburgh contribution—Turkey Devonshire sandwich!

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:26:08pm

re: #244 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

And renamed “Desperation.”

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:27:23pm

re: #241 Unshaken Defiance

All of us in my office are almost crying we are laughing so hard. Gun Vloggers are upset YouTube is thinning their ranks. So they went and got mad, flounced off to a new online home. I would not have guessed where in a million years.

Pornhub.
No direct links obviously…

And work firewall filters will still kill their viewer numbers, because a lot of ammosexuals won’t be able to watch them at work.

I love it.

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:31:12pm

re: #251 Joe Bacon 🌹

As far as I’m concerned the Kentucky Hot Brown is a sandwich

[Embedded content]

its served in a bowl/skillet
you cant pick it up with your hands
it’s sandwich parts

i’d eat one in a heartbeat

it does get points for no pineapple

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:31:16pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:33:09pm

In the wake of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School massacre, the far-right fever swamps buzzed with false information and conspiracy theories about student “crisis actors” who were paid to lie about the mass shooting.

But ironically, conspiracy-minded conservatives fell for a political hoax involving a different kind of actor. The subject? Broward County’s Democratic sheriff, Scott Israel.

Israel for the past month has been assailed as everything from a “rapist” to a philanderer to a crooked cop thanks to three old YouTube videos in which a mystery woman accused him of impregnating her when she was 17 and forcing her to get an abortion. The videos together have been viewed almost 130,000 times since the Feb. 14 shooting.

But all of it was a lie, the woman and her attorney, Yechezkel Rodal, now tell POLITICO, which found her by combing internet videos and social media.

“I was paid to say these things. I didn’t even know what I was saying,” said the woman, who spoke with POLITICO on condition of anonymity because she fears political retribution from Internet trolls or from the sheriff’s office, which does not know her identity. “I’m sorry … It’s fake.”

The revelation comes amid growing concerns about the spate of conspiracy theories and “false flag” attacks surrounding recent mass shootings — especially in Florida — that are surfacing on right-wing and fringe media sites.

The videos were initially posted at the tail end of the bare-knuckle 2012 campaign when Israel defeated Republican incumbent Al Lamberti. Now living in New York, the woman said she was 17 at the time and didn’t know Israel when an unknown person paid her $25 per video through the website fiverr.com, where she was hired by different companies to cut “thousands” of video testimonials for various products ranging from cell phone plans to diet programs. She expressed shock when informed Israel was sheriff and that the videos have become part of a smear campaign after the shooting.

“Oh my God,” she said. “How do I get this off YouTube?”

She apparently can’t. YouTube’s parent company, Google, has refused her efforts and those of Israel to take them down — an intransigence that illuminates how new media firms have become platforms for fake news and take little corporate responsibility to combat it.

politico.com

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KGxvi  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:35:24pm

re: #119 dangerman

seriously - is she suggesting

if he signs another bill like this he’d be impeached

or he’s getting impeached already

Ummmmmmm, yes?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:36:57pm

re: #257 Stanley Sea

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Even if it becomes a rule it probably won’t survive a legal challenge because the law defines machine guns in a very specific way. This entire exercise is a Republican cop out to avoid crossing the NRA which has said they’re okay with a regulatory placebo but will oppose any legislation that would actually fix the problem.

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KGxvi  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:37:16pm

re: #257 Stanley Sea

The NRA is going to flood the comment period to fight this. Those who support this regulation need to mobilize accordingly.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:39:35pm

re: #259 KGxvi

I think she’s suggesting that she hasn’t been getting enough attention lately. She’ll be back on board the Trump Train by Monday.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:41:19pm

re: #192 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Oh they’re just pissed that this mess isn’t meaner to poor people, the middle class(what’s left of it) and minorities. If it was more stingy and hateful, they’d all love it.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:42:45pm

re: #263 A Mom Anon

Oh they’re just pissed that this mess isn’t meaner to poor people, the middle class(what’s left of it) and minorities. If it was more stingy and hateful, they’d all love it.

That’s what it really comes down to, that Democrats got anything in the bill is why they’re so pissed. If Trump had received a bill that funded the DoD and nothing else, they’d be dancing in the aisles.

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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:43:30pm

Song by a twitter friend

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mmmirele  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:46:39pm

WOW!


Attorney says Roy Moore supporters offered him $10,000 to drop client who accused the Senate candidate of sexual impropriety

Oh and then the attorney was going to sign a statement that it was a falsehood, which would be turned over to Breitbart.

Long story-and the Post has the receipts.

washingtonpost.com

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:49:24pm

re: #266 mmmirele

WOW!


Attorney says Roy Moore supporters offered him $10,000 to drop client who accused the Senate candidate of sexual impropriety

Oh and then the attorney was going to sign a statement that it was a falsehood, which would be turned over to Breitbart.

Long story-and the Post has the receipts.

washingtonpost.com

The money part doesn’t shock me, but requiring he sign a statement that Breitbart would publish does. Effectively they were asking him to jeopardize his ability to practice law simply to salvage Moore and thus Bannon’s potential reputation as a “king maker.”

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scottslemmons  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:52:33pm

re: #266 mmmirele

WOW!


Attorney says Roy Moore supporters offered him $10,000 to drop client who accused the Senate candidate of sexual impropriety

Oh and then the attorney was going to sign a statement that it was a falsehood, which would be turned over to Breitbart.

Long story-and the Post has the receipts.

washingtonpost.com

The Party of Family Values.

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:52:37pm

re: #260 goddamnedfrank

Even if it becomes a rule it probably won’t survive a legal challenge because the law defines machine guns in a very specific way. This entire exercise is a Republican cop out to avoid crossing the NRA which has said they’re okay with a regulatory placebo but will oppose any legislation that would actually fix the problem.

look how they pick this apart and nuance it to death. just this one thing. bump stocks. how are we even going to have meaningful conversations about registration (without confiscation) training, insurance, secure storage, and on and on?

that’s why i wrote in re: #112 dangerman

my favored line of attack to start opening this up is after-the-fact consequence laws. it’s way more difficult to argue against laws that affix personal responsibility after someone has obviously fucked up.

that’s the foot in the door. act responsibly or youll lose your guns and go to jail. that means if someone gets their hands on your gun. there is no argument for losing control of your weapon at any time, except laziness. And sell without verification and you’ll be responsible for what’s done with that gun too.

and i’d even be for all gun-owner juries. be judged by a jury of your peers. they will not let you off and they will not want to be you next.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:54:16pm

Apparently, trying to pan-sear meat on the stovetop without a range hood is “ill-advised”. Ask me how I know.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:54:25pm

Of course, what we see in Breitbart’s attempt to buying off lawyers is yet another example of wingnuts accusing others of the very things they’re doing. I’m sure if you feel like dumpster diving, you can find more than one article over there accusing the victims of being paid by outside groups to make “false” accusations against Moore.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:55:11pm

chicagomag.com

The high-end restaurant in Trump Tower Chicago is closing, for a “reconcepting.” (Why do writers keep doing that to perfectly good words?) It will re-open April 28. It has lost about 40% of its business.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:56:51pm

re: #266 mmmirele

WOW!


Attorney says Roy Moore supporters offered him $10,000 to drop client who accused the Senate candidate of sexual impropriety

Oh and then the attorney was going to sign a statement that it was a falsehood, which would be turned over to Breitbart.

Long story-and the Post has the receipts.

washingtonpost.com

Isn’t this attempted tortious interference?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 2:59:25pm

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹

The Senate does have to confirm the National Security Advisor when that person is in the military, due to laws surrounding military personnel and civilian government service. (That is why HR McMaster had to be approved, but Condoleeza Rice did not.)

The position doesn’t require it. It’s being a 3- or 4-star General on active duty, changing jobs. Same thing was true of Colin Powell.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:00:56pm

Gaaa…..

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:02:49pm

re: #275 Anymouse 🌹

Gaaa…..

[Embedded content]

But remember, the real victim in all this is the “troubled young man” who snuffed out such a promising life…

////////

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:04:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:05:04pm

re: #274 Blind Frog Belly White

The position doesn’t require it. It’s being a 3- or 4-star General on active duty, changing jobs. Same thing was true of Colin Powell.

U.S. Presidents have acted in three previous instances to designate three-star active duty U.S. military flag and general officers as the National Security Advisor: U.S. Air Force Lieutenant General Brent Scowcroft in 1975; U.S. Navy Vice Admiral John M. Poindexter in 1985; and U.S. Army Lieutenant General Colin L. Powell in 1987. While Scowcroft retired from active duty military service shortly after his designation as National Security Advisor by President Gerald Ford, Poindexter and Powell remained in their grades as three-star military officers while serving as the National Security Advisor, choices which mandated the involvement of the U.S. Senate. (emphasis mine)

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:08:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:09:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:10:34pm

*thud*

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Jay C  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:11:24pm

re: #267 Targetpractice

The money part doesn’t shock me, but requiring he sign a statement that Breitbart would publish does. Effectively they were asking him to jeopardize his ability to practice law simply to salvage Moore and thus Bannon’s potential reputation as a “king maker.”

SRSLY?: Even in Alabama, they were expecting that an attorney would:
1. Accept a bribe to drop a client
2. Sign off on a perjurious statement, which would
3. Be publicized for political purposes by the briber
4. Run the threat of legal repercussions up to and including disbarment and/or criminal charges

for just TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS????

OK, I realize ten large will probably go further in AL than, say, Manhattan, but really? For a lawyer’s whole career? Ten grand?
Baffoons….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:13:51pm

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

From the article I linked to:

There are two options that would allow him to serve as national security adviser without needing to be confirmed, according to the committee aide: He could revert to two-star major general status to lead Trump’s National Security Council, or he could retire from active military duty.

Those were the options Powell faced. In the end, as he wrote in his memoir, “My American Journey,” he chose to keep his higher ranking and go through confirmation.

“The post of national security adviser did not require Senate confirmation. But as a three-star general, I would have to be confirmed for any job in order to hold on to my rank. If I dropped back to two stars, I could be appointed without Senate confirmation. But I was not eager to be demoted in the Army so that I could be promoted in a civilian post,” he wrote.

It’s changing jobs as a 3 or 4 star general, not the particular position.

OTOH, when retired Gen. Mattis was nominated for SecDef, Congress had to pass an exemption to allow him, as a retired General, to take the job. There’s a specific, statutory prohibition.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:15:04pm

re: #267 Targetpractice

The money part doesn’t shock me, but requiring he sign a statement that Breitbart would publish does. Effectively they were asking him to jeopardize his ability to practice law simply to salvage Moore and thus Bannon’s potential reputation as a “king maker.”

They were certainly inducing him to violate the Alabama Bar Association rules of professional conduct pertaining to client loyalty and conflict of interest. I don’t think that’s a criminal violation per se, but it probably should be.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:15:59pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:17:30pm

re: #273 goddamnedfrank

Isn’t this attempted tortious interference?

I think it’s illegal to type ‘tortious’ without prior admission to some bar or another.

Are you in a bar?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:18:25pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

That memo also goes a long way towards explaining why Giuliani never joined the Administration.

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The Major  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:18:28pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:19:13pm

re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White

More on Lt. General and General, and Senate confirmation:

The three-star grade goes hand-in-hand with the position of office to which it is linked, so the rank is temporary. Officers may only achieve three-star grade if they are appointed to positions that require the officer to hold such a rank.[5] Their rank expires with the expiration of their term of office, which is usually set by statute.[5] Lieutenant generals are nominated for appointment by the president from any eligible officers holding the rank of brigadier general or above, who also meet the requirements for the position, with the advice of the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.[5] The nominee must be confirmed via majority vote by the Senate before the appointee can take office and thus assume the rank.[5]

So if McMaster wanted to keep his 3rd star as an active duty Lt.Gen, whatever job he took in government, he needed Senate confirmation of the nomination.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:19:16pm

re: #286 wrenchwench

I think it’s illegal to type ‘tortious’ without prior admission to some bar or another.

Are you in a bar?

I’ve got some beer waiting in the fridge.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:19:46pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

*thud*

And that will become a component of conservative religious faith: Obama legalised bump stocks.

As I recall at the time, the ATF weighed in and stated it did not have the statutory authority to deal with them as they are not actually a component of a gun.

At best, you could say President Obama didn’t ban them. He certainly didn’t approve them.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if the GOA and NRA went after Trump for this to get him to reverse it.

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:20:13pm

re: #290 goddamnedfrank

I’ve got some beer waiting in the fridge.

Close enough these days.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:21:55pm

re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White

From the article I linked to:

It’s changing jobs as a 3 or 4 star general, not the particular position.

OTOH, when retired Gen. Mattis was nominated for SecDef, Congress had to pass an exemption to allow him, as a retired General, to take the job. There’s a specific, statutory prohibition.

That’s the point. 3-4 star general officers have to be confirmed to take any position in the civilian branch of the government. Hence, Mattis had to be confirmed by the Senate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:22:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:23:20pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:23:55pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

Didn’t Trump fire McMaster just to counter this?

WTF is he going to do on Sunday?

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:24:35pm

re: #291 Anymouse 🌹

And that will become a component of conservative religious faith: Obama legalised bump stocks.

As I recall at the time, the ATF weighed in and stated it did not have the statutory authority to deal with them as they are not actually a component of a gun.

At best, you could say President Obama didn’t ban them. He certainly didn’t approve them.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if the GOA and NRA went after Trump for this to get him to reverse it.

It goes without saying that had Obama weighed in and ordered bump stocks banned, the very people accusing him (falsely) of legalizing them would have lost their tiny little minds.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:24:50pm

re: #296 Skip Intro

Didn’t Trump fire McMaster just to counter this?

WTF is he going to do on Sunday?

Fire Mueller.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:25:39pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:26:33pm

re: #297 Targetpractice

It goes without saying that had Obama weighed in and ordered bump stocks banned, the very people accusing him (falsely) of legalizing them would have lost their tiny little minds.

And they could hold two opposing ideas in their minds at the same time: Obama legalised bump stocks (false) and Obama was going to take all our guns (false).

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:27:00pm

re: #296 Skip Intro

Didn’t Trump fire McMaster just to counter this?

WTF is he going to do on Sunday?

Golf.

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petesh  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:27:22pm

re: #296 Skip Intro

Didn’t Trump fire McMaster just to counter this?

WTF is he going to do on Sunday?

I cannot answer that seriously without sounding like I am making fun of it [e.g. declare war]. Fire Mueller? Fire Sessions? Commit seppuku in the middle of his golf course?

All I know is I’m not getting too far off the grid on Sunday …

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:27:55pm

re: #293 Anymouse 🌹

That’s the point. 3-4 star general officers have to be confirmed to take any position in the civilian branch of the government. Hence, Mattis had to be confirmed by the Senate.

That’s what I said, presuming you meant to say McMaster, not Mattis.

Mattis was retired, so he didn’t need confirmation of his 4-star status to take a jobs. But Congress made a law that the SecDef could not be a retired or active duty general, so they had to have a SEPARATE vote to exempt Mattis to allow him to serve as SecDef, in addition to confirming his nomination.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:27:57pm
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Varek Raith  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:28:49pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

I did not need to see that.
:P

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The Major  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:29:05pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:29:30pm

re: #300 Anymouse 🌹

And they could hold two opposing ideas in their minds at the same time: Obama legalised bump stocks (false) and Obama was going to take all our guns (false).

Or, Obama legalized bump stocks so that he could later use it as an excuse to take our guns away.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:30:06pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Please no. For the sake of all that’s holy, DON’T RELEASE THE CONTENTS OF THAT DVD!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:32:42pm

re: #308 Targetpractice

Please no. For the sake of all that’s holy, DON’T RELEASE THE CONTENTS OF THAT DVD!!!

There are some things Man was not meant to know.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:33:05pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I just noticed the date, July 22, 2014. That means Bannon knew this arrangement was illegal over two years prior to Trump naming him campaign CEO on August 17th, 2016.

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The Major  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:33:17pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:36:12pm
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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:36:30pm

re: #307 Blind Frog Belly White

Or, Obama legalized bump stocks so that he could later use it as an excuse to take our guns away.

or obama legalized bump stocks so that trump would later have to ban them and put himself in hock with the nra

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:38:01pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:38:17pm

Twitter responds to Chuck C. Johnson’s lawsuit, moves to dismiss everything and make Rage Furby pay their legal fees under anti-SLAPP, and more.

Scribd Document

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:38:59pm

re: #296 Skip Intro

Didn’t Trump fire McMaster just to counter this?

WTF is he going to do on Sunday?

re: #298 Targetpractice

Fire Mueller.

re: #301 Anymouse 🌹

Golf.

He will write ‘Mueller’ on a golf ball and hit it as hard as he can.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:39:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:43:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:45:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:47:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:48:33pm

re: #303 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s what I said, presuming you meant to say McMaster, not Mattis.

Mattis was retired, so he didn’t need confirmation of his 4-star status to take a jobs. But Congress made a law that the SecDef could not be a retired or active duty general, so they had to have a SEPARATE vote to exempt Mattis to allow him to serve as SecDef, in addition to confirming his nomination.

Correct, McMaster. My mistake.

National Security Advisor does not need confirmation unless that person is active duty (and 3-4 stars), hence Condoleeza Rice did not need confirmation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:49:54pm

check your seatbelts…

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:50:10pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #308 Targetpractice

Please no. For the sake of all that’s holy, DON’T RELEASE THE CONTENTS OF THAT DVD!!!

re: #309 Blind Frog Belly White

There are some things Man was not meant to know.

It’s like Movie 43, only for real…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:51:57pm

re: #321 Anymouse 🌹

Correct, McMaster. My mistake.

National Security Advisor does not need confirmation unless that person is active duty (and 3-4 stars), hence Condoleeza Rice did not need confirmation.

Now we’re back to the same place we started. It’s not that National Security Adviser EVER requires confirmation. It’s that ANY 3-4 star active duty General needs confirmation of his posting WHATEVER IT IS.

Not THAT job. ANY job. See the difference?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:54:13pm
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mmmirele  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:54:31pm

re: #277 dangerman

this sounds like a big deal (dKos)

Citigroup adopts bump stock ban unilaterally - interwebs explode in outrage

this explains why

Why Citibank’s Anti-Gun Position is YUUUGE

I saw this yesterday, but I’ve been a bit distracted. Perhaps this will pressure the CEO of my employer, the evil too big to fail financial institution, to do more than just leave it up to the legislature.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:55:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:58:12pm

WHY DID NO ONE TELL US THIS EARLIER????!!!???

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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:59:17pm

re: #327 mmmirele

I saw this yesterday, but I’ve been a bit distracted. Perhaps this will pressure the CEO of my employer, the evil too big to fail financial institution, to do more than just leave it up to the legislature.

as the second story says
goldman had an opportunity to take the lead with this
they didnt and citi did

citi gets the headlines
we have to see if this really has teeth and gets broadly implemented and then “enforced”

and who else - like goldman or oh, i dont know even maybe wells fargo follows suit

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:59:23pm

re: #328 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

OFFS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 3:59:28pm
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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:00:38pm
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dangerman  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:00:52pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kellyanne Conway says you can combat opioid addiction with french fries

WHY DID NO ONE TELL US THIS EARLIER????!!!???

will fries work as a preventative/vaccination too?
cause then im good for a while…

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The Deep State Drank All The Beer!  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:03:35pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Judd Legum✔

Kellyanne Conway says you can combat opioid addiction with french fries

especially french fries dipped in oxycontin sauce

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:03:51pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:05:53pm

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

In other words, there’s probably some company working on a new pain med that Trump and/or his buddies have stock in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:06:12pm
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Ace Rothstein  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:06:12pm

Never trust a man wearing a seersucker suit with a bad mustache.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:06:45pm

re: #337 Targetpractice

In other words, there’s probably some company working on a new pain med that Trump and/or his buddies have stock in.

McDonald’s…driveup window pain med distribution…

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:08:08pm

re: #333 Kragar

And yes, I already reported their videos as inappropriate content…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:10:59pm

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:12:11pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:13:10pm

re: #341 Kragar

And yes, I already reported their videos as inappropriate content…

Gun videos inappropriate for a porn site. That is fucking hysterical!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:13:51pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Looks like Ted stopped putting shoe polish on his hair.

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scottslemmons  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:16:37pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Ted’s looking pretty rough around the edges.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:16:55pm
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jaunte  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:17:11pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:18:19pm

re: #348 jaunte

[Embedded content]

As long as they don’t fight on Holy Ground…

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:19:37pm

re: #227 Targetpractice

“If they’d just nominated Bernie, we would have won the election!”

Until I saw your comment, I never considered how the Russians would have handled an election had Bernie been the candidate?

Would they have done nothing because they hated Clinton and didn’t want to see her as president?

Or, would they have screwed with Bernie too because they really were doing all of this for Trump?

Hmmm. A political brain teaser.

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:20:47pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:22:04pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:22:40pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:23:00pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:23:25pm

re: #350 ObserverArt

Until I saw your comment, I never considered how the Russians would have handled an election had Bernie been the candidate?

Would they have done nothing because they hated Clinton and didn’t want to see her as president?

Or, would they have screwed with Bernie too because they really were doing all of this for Trump?

Hmmm. A political brain teaser.

They would have gone after Bernie. He would go overnight from being the “true progressive” to being the biggest corporate sell-out ever.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:29:07pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:29:21pm

HOLY SHIT!!!!

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freetoken  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:31:18pm

re: #357 Blind Frog Belly White

A billion here, a billion there… who can keep track of all their petty bills?

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William Lewis  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:32:00pm

re: #333 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Sad part? Those are two of the most sane gun people on youtube, especially Ian on the right who runs Forgotten Weapons which is about history and technology and rarely has even touched on politics previously. Ah, well. I don’t mind the idiots getting run off but it will be a loss if he’s unable to post his videos there.

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halfspin  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:32:55pm

Williamson is the edgelord/shitlord that most of us stopped being once we graduated from college.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:33:01pm

Trump’s taken to Twitter again, making threats he can’t possibly follow through on.

He made empty threats about the budget bill he signed into law. He signed it anyways - mostly because if he didn’t, he’d own the shutdown again.

So, now he’s trying to claim that he wouldn’t sign another bill like that again.

That’s easy. Get impeached. Resign. Get removed from office.

Any of those can happen by this time next year.

And you’ll never sign another budget again.

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:33:48pm

re: #355 Targetpractice

They would have gone after Bernie. He would go overnight from being the “true progressive” to being the biggest corporate sell-out ever.

That’s what the Bernouts either just don’t fucking get or willingly ignore altogether is that, had Bernie somehow ended up the Dem nominee, Trump, the RNC, and the Russians would have fucking savaged him, just as Hillary was, maybe even more.

His Russian honeymoon in the middle of the Cold War, among other things, would have been used as a battering ram.

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freetoken  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:34:03pm

Rain. I was promised rain. Up to an inch they said. Then they corrected themselves and said up to half an inch.

Net result? A trace, barely measurable drizzle this morning, now totally bone dry again.

We’re several inches down now compared to the long term average.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:34:24pm
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The Deep State Drank All The Beer!  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:35:27pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

McDonald’s…driveup window pain med distribution…

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:35:51pm

re: #360 halfspin

Welcome, hatchling.

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halfspin  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:36:02pm

re: #359 William Lewis

Do you have any recommendations for sane gun people on YouTube? I enjoy watching videos about weapons that I generally don’t think should be in the hands of private citizens without any kind of regulation…

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:36:21pm

re: #357 Blind Frog Belly White

Fake news.
/

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freetoken  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:36:43pm

re: #365 The Deep State Drank All The Beer!

Doesn’t this mean McDonalds can raise the price of their fries to 10x what they charge in other countries?

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:36:47pm

re: #316 wrenchwench

He will write ‘Mueller’ on a golf ball and hit it as hard as he can.

Maybe he’ll shoot someone on the 17th fairway just to prove it won’t cost him any votes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:37:19pm

re: #368 Ace Rothstein

Fake news.
/

Yeah. What would the Wall Street Journal know about money?
//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:38:28pm

re: #369 freetoken

Doesn’t this mean McDonalds can raise the price of their fries to 10x what they charge in other countries?

Yes, but first we have to establish the efficacy of the fries.

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:38:59pm

re: #370 Skip Intro

Maybe he’ll shoot someone on the 17th fairway just to prove it won’t cost him any votes.

His caddie.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:39:58pm

re: #373 wrenchwench

His caddie.

Nah. The other guy’s caddie. He’ll just stiff his caddie.

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Brian J.  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:42:34pm

re: #355 Targetpractice

They would have gone after Bernie. He would go overnight from being the “true progressive” to being the biggest corporate sell-out ever.

He’d have never seen it coming, because like most of the American white left, he thinks the Russians are just the Soviets with a new coat of paint. You know, the good guys struggling against the evil Americans.

He’d have been lucky to win more than 5 states.

By the way, why isn’t anyone planning for the possibility that Mueller claps cuffs on Bernie’s wrists before this November? For all the people against Bernie 2020, why isn’t there anyone against Bernie 2018?

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Brian J.  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:43:45pm

re: #333 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Seriously, doesn’t Pornhub have rules against showing violence in videos?

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:44:09pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

McDonald’s…driveup window pain med distribution…

McDonald’s french fries rise in price to $5000 for a small order.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:44:11pm

re: #373 wrenchwench

His caddie.

Caddie, lol? That fat ass can’t walk to the green for fuck’s sake.

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halfspin  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:45:17pm

re: #366 wrenchwench

I am aware of all Internet traditions—including the one where the proprietor here was a crazy Islamophobic wingnut warmonger for years before recovering—but apparently I had never registered for an account.

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William Lewis  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:46:40pm

re: #367 halfspin

Do you have any recommendations for sane gun people on YouTube? I enjoy watching videos about weapons that I generally don’t think should be in the hands of private citizens without any kind of regulation…

As I said, I do like those two (the channels are InrangeTV, Forgotten Weapons) but Hickcock45 can be good (he’s mostly just a firearms reviewer) and then there is Yankee Marshal who just posted this interesting rant:

White Christians Can Be Terrorists Too

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:47:25pm

JFC, Tweety. STOP INTERRUPTING YOUR GUESTS WHEN YOU ASK THEM A QUESTION.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:47:54pm

re: #357 Blind Frog Belly White

HOLY SHIT!!!!

[Embedded content]

Somebody wake up John Kelly before Trump fires him.

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:48:21pm

re: #374 Blind Frog Belly White

Nah. The other guy’s caddie. He’ll just stiff his caddie.

Well, if he shoots his caddy, then his caddy will be stiff(ed)…

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2018 • 4:48:50pm

re: #379 halfspin

I am aware of all Internet traditions—including the one where the proprietor here was a crazy Islamophobic wingnut warmonger for years before recovering—but apparently I had never registered for an account.

You may have overstated your case a bit. And now you’ve been CLed. Have a tweet.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2018 • 5:13:47pm

re: #378 Ace Rothstein

Caddie, lol? That fat ass can’t walk to the green for fuck’s sake.

[Embedded content]

Still amazed that he does that. Pretty much the ultimate golf faux pas.

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halfspin  Mar 23, 2018 • 5:15:47pm

re: #384 wrenchwench

Hey, that was not intended to be a factual statement! And as a newcomer I have no clue what cystine lactose electrolyte deficient agar has to do with my comment, sorry!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2018 • 5:24:58pm

re: #384 wrenchwench

You may have overstated your case a bit. And now you’ve been CLed. Have a tweet.

[Embedded content]

Peace to the newcomer.

But let me say, in honor of CL, Wench, your post is #1.

Dying. Turned Alexa to Fleetwood Mac.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 23, 2018 • 5:41:30pm

re: #325 Blind Frog Belly White

Now we’re back to the same place we started. It’s not that National Security Adviser EVER requires confirmation. It’s that ANY 3-4 star active duty General needs confirmation of his posting WHATEVER IT IS.

Not THAT job. ANY job. See the difference?

I’m aware that is “any job.” My first notation on this was an active duty general appointed to a civilian government post. I think we’re on the same page here.


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Traveller - ‘Nobody Makes It Out’ (Live at WFUV)wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Traveller performs "Nobody Makes It Out" live in Studio A. Recorded 5.9.18. Host: Alisa AliAudio: Caroline InzucchiCameras: Kristal Ho, Brian Gallagher & Kaylee KurkierewiczEditors: Kaylee Kurkierewicz & Brian Gallagher
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Fantastic Negrito - the Duffler (Official Video) ‘The Duffler’ is taken from Fantastic Negrito's brand new album 'Please Don't Be Dead' out now. Order your copy here: fn.lnk.to Director: Freddy Macdonald Producer: Fred MacdonaldCinematographer: Sebastian KlingerEditor: Freddy MacdonaldProduction Company: Macdonald Entertainment Partners Check here for Fantastic ...
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Facebook’s Screening for Political Ads Nabs News Sites… One ad couldn’t have been more obviously political. Targeted to people aged 18 and older, it urged them to “vote YES” on June 5 on a ballot proposition to issue bonds for schools in a district near San Francisco. ...
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Stanford Prison Experiment: Why Famous Psychology Studies Are Now Being Torn Apart Sometimes pseudoscience makes it through to the text books, most often in the soft and social sciences. A new exposé based on previously unpublished recordings of Philip Zimbardo, the Stanford psychologist who ran the study, and interviews with his ...
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Goliath Season 2 - Official Trailer In Season 2 of Goliath, Billy McBride takes on a new case, and the fight spills into the streets of Los Angeles and alleys of Venice Beach.Goliath returns 6/15 on Prime Video. » Stream Goliath 6/15 on Prime Video: ...
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Wild Nothing - Letting Go "Letting Go" is the first single from Wild Nothing's forthcoming album, 'Indigo', out 08/31/2018 on Captured Tracks. Order here: wildnothing.lnk.to Follow Wild Nothing:wildnothingmusic.comwildnothingct.bandcamp.comfacebook.cominstagram.com@WildNothingopen.spotify.com Lyrics:It's getting hard for me to reframe all those shifting memoriesLike a music box that never ...
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