Pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal is a big mistake. It makes America less safe and less trusted. Iran is now more dangerous. What’s plan B? Anyone who thinks bombing is the answer is woefully misinformed.
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) May 9, 2018
It will also be harder to deal with other threats like ballistic missiles and terrorism. Now we have no leverage and Iran is free to do what it wants.
Read what President Obama wrote about it here:https://t.co/j5fnzXCpV2— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) May 9, 2018
From the Avenatti document:
“Hungary: Mr. Cohen received two wire transfers totaling $10,980 from KOBE EVA KERESKEDELMI to an account in Singapore….”
“The remittances reference an invoice and a ‘Ms. Nikolett Vadja’.”
Hm. Nikolett Vadja?
Google Translate, here to help: pic.twitter.com/zOwOe5cU6l— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) May 8, 2018
Lol that is just perfectly effed up narration. “kickstarter toilet cam inventor gets a break”
The Air Force is running a recruitment ad for its special forces on Alex Jones’ YouTube channel https://t.co/ZR3MiUKsLa pic.twitter.com/FMjzgK5bNL
— Media Matters (@mmfa) May 8, 2018
Sorry for cursing, but this is fucking crazy. Alex Jones is supposed to have 2 strikes and @TeamYouTube is refusing to issue another despite his continued violations of their rules. Isn’t he also supposed to be demonitized? And why is the US fucking government appearing on there? https://t.co/Hb1eljMy6h
— Sleeping Giants (@slpng_giants) May 8, 2018
This Essential Consulting story is genuinely huge. It brings together Russia collusion, Stormy Daniels, potential money laundering and pay-for-play from powerful corporations.
— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) May 9, 2018
To everyone who said, “Yeah, but Hillary will be a hawk,” I want you to know I have procured a hawk. I have named her Hillary. And I’m training her to peck your faces off.
— Caissie St.Onge (@Caissie) May 8, 2018
As expected…Mike DeWine wins Republican primary for Governor. Will be a hotly contested election between him and Richard Cordray. This may be one of the more intense runs for Ohio Governor in some time due to national politics.
DeWine is going to have to be careful about how much Trump love he claims. And that little puzzle means he could suffer from the Trump base if he doesn’t buddy up to Trump. And that will cost him with old time Ohio Republican moderates and independents.
Cordray can bring up how he was run out of the Consumers Protection Bureau due to Trump and what that appears to have resulted in with Trump putting executive
Mick Mulvaney in the job.
DeWine can also play dirty when cornered. Cordray is usually seen as the clean-cut boyish nice guy.
Lots of contrasts in this race.
re: #2 JordanRules
Did we decide? Who plays Avenatti in the movie?
He kind of looks like Carey Stoll who played Peter in House of Cards. But someone more famous would probably get it.
“[Trump] has achieved the remarkable result of giving the high ground on issues of national trust & credibility to Iran, the world’s leading exporter of terror, over the United States of America, isolating us from our allies ” - @SteveSchmidtSES w/ @NicolleDWallace pic.twitter.com/rRenRtT9W2
— Deadline White House (@DeadlineWH) May 8, 2018
From the Avenatti document:
“Hungary: Mr. Cohen received two wire transfers totaling $10,980 from KOBE EVA KERESKEDELMI to an account in Singapore….”
“The remittances reference an invoice and a ‘Ms. Nikolett Vadja’.”
Hm. Nikolett Vadja?
Google Translate, here to help: pic.twitter.com/zOwOe5cU6l— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) May 8, 2018
Thanks for playing, @DonBlankenship. #WVSen pic.twitter.com/TV1ETgQdmu
— Team Mitch (@Team_Mitch) May 9, 2018
Blankenship can just call it a night and crawl back to wherever he slithered out from.
Harris beats Pittenger in NC-9 Republican primary. This seat is now very much in play with Democrat Dan McCready. More Dem votes than Rep in primary that includes Charlotte and suburbs.
re: #2 JordanRules
Did we decide? Who plays Avenatti in the movie?
Why don’t we wait to see if we get out of this alive before worrying about a movie?
re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Blankenship can just call it a night and crawl back to wherever he slithered out from.
Daaaaamn. Good one you piece of shit Mitch.
re: #11 gocart mozart
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The look on Nicole Wallace’s face.
The look of realization that the administration she was a part of had much to do with some of the problems we are seeing in what Schmidt is saying.
re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Blankenship can just call it a night and crawl back to wherever he slithered out from.
Is… is that… is that supposed to be a line of coke across Yertle’s picture???
So, I’ve just been doing some reading up on Don Blankenship. Good GOD this guy is an asshole. There’s plenty of fuckery to choose from but I think this one takes the cake:
“When groundwater pollution from coal slurry injection by Massey Energy began contaminating wells around Blankenship’s home, Massey paid to build a water line to it from a neighboring town. Blankenship did not offer to provide uncontaminated water to any of his neighbors, nor did he inform them of the problem.[40]”
re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Blankenship can just call it a night and crawl back to wherever he slithered out from.
LOL I can’t believe they photoshopped in cocaine dust!
re: #15 Skip Intro
Why don’t we to see if we get out of this alive before worrying about a movie?
We do this here every couple weeks here for levity. Stop acting brand new and let me live.
You know damn well how seriously I take this and how I don’t feel safe or immune from working on the ground because I’m lucky enough to live in a blue state like you.
The ONLY thing trump is consistent about is undoing anything and everything President Obama put in place for the benefit of the people of the USA and for the benefit of world peace and friendship.
There are so many “imagine if Obama did this” happenings at the minute, it is impossible not to burst into tears at what this moron is doing and will continue to do unless the GOP suffers a massive electoral defeat - and given the money and influence from within and without to corrupt the US elections - even that is looking doubtful.
The US has elected a war mongering racist dictator.
Jesus, imagine how enormous a fuckup Blankenship had to be to make Mitch McConnell look cool.
re: #26 goddamnedfrank
Jesus, imagine how enormous a fuckup Blankenship had to be to make Mitch McConnell look cool.
No shit. Kind of an amazing accomplishment.
Blankenship took a moment to — seemingly — concede, acknowledging that he believes he has lost.
Blankenship attributed his loss, perhaps more than anything, to Mr. Trump’s tweet urging people not to vote for him earlier this week. He also thanked supporters, and the media. Blankenship said he’ll now have more time for his family and traveling to places like Paris.
“Don’t feel sorry for me,” Blankenship said.
Blankenship reflected on the opportunities he, as the child of a single mother, had growing up, mentioning a time he says he visited the White House.
“I learned more in the poor house and the big house than I learned in the other houses,” he said.
LOL
Current results in Ohio Congressional District 12 Republican Primary…district is long held Republican and John Kasich’s old seat. Republicans in DC are worried about Leneghan as a candidate.
Candidate - Votes - % of Votes
Kevin Bacon (R) - 8,578 - 14.45%
Troy Balderson (R) - 17,933 - 30.22% (Establishment Republican)
Lawrence Cohen (R) - 674 - 1.14%
Jon Halverstadt (R) - 861 - 1.45%
Tim Kane (R) - 9,922 - 16.72%
Melanie Leneghan (R) - 16,465 - 27.74% (Jim Jordan backed Trumper)
Pat Manley (R) - 650 - 1.10%
Carol O’Brien (R) - 3,599 - 6.06%
Mick Shoemaker Jr. (R) - 666 - 1.12%
Total Votes Cast 59,348
.@CardinalDolan Says @Rihanna Borrowed One of His Miters for Met Ball: ‘She Was Very Gracious’ https://t.co/4WCuQUzIbD pic.twitter.com/rFPJcYv9YD
— TheWrap (@TheWrap) May 8, 2018
re: #24 JordanRules
Sorry but I no longer find any of this funny.
Quite a night in Durham: Satana Deberry, who campaigned as a reformer on issues like cash bail among others, wins the Dem primary for District Attorney. https://t.co/Ck1jimFMzj pic.twitter.com/BxlEi2R1OD
— Taniel (@Taniel) May 9, 2018
re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth
LOL
Asshole should’ve still been in the Big House for the rest of his natural life for what he did.
re: #24 JordanRules
We do this here every couple weeks here for levity. Stop acting brand new and let me live.
You know damn well how seriously I take this and how I don’t feel safe or immune from working on the ground because I’m lucky enough to live in a blue state like you.
Ditto me and my wife, both running for office in a township where Hillary Clinton got eight whole votes.
re: #15 Skip Intro
Why don’t we wait to see if we get out of this alive before worrying about a movie?
Naaah. I refuse to give up humor. I didn’t give it up in the 80s and I’m not giving it up now.
re: #5 gocart mozart
The Soggy Bottom Boys? Didn’t they run some white supremacist out of Mississippi?
No, no. Think of the CEOs asking *TODAY* “Did we make our Trump/Cohen through a company named Essential Consultant?? Oh, FRACK!!”
— Ian Gillespie (@IanRGillespie) May 9, 2018
Lets see what Our Revolution has won tonight… pic.twitter.com/pkeFWBUMBu
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) May 9, 2018
re: #31 Skip Intro
Sorry but I no longer find any of this funny.
Neither do I, which is why I’m fighting this crap, specifically so we can make that movie.
re: #38 KGxvi
The Soggy Bottom Boys? Didn’t they run some white supremacist out of Mississippi?
And his dwarf too.
I see. pic.twitter.com/r3ipfzSPx1
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) May 9, 2018
Congrats @McCreadyForNC on your big win! VoteVets endorsed Dan in this primary, because we’re committed to seeing progressive veterans elected, coast-to-coast! #NCpol #NC09 #NC9 pic.twitter.com/A0SB8dS6Wi
— VoteVets (@votevets) May 9, 2018
The federal primary results in #NC09, Indiana and West Virginia show that veterans and non-Washington candidates do well. House Republicans? Not so well. https://t.co/5fJLsKrIpX
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) May 9, 2018
Also in Ohio news…State Issue 1 - Changes in how congressional districts are drawn. Looks like solidly passed. Not a great bill but an improvement.
State Issue 1 Creates a bipartisan, public process for drawing congressional districts
Selection - Votes - % of Votes
YES - 1,046,099 - 74.38%
NO - 360,369 - 25.62%
Total Votes Cast - 1,406,468
re: #45 ObserverArt
Also in Ohio news…State Issue 1 - Changes in how congressional districts are drawn. Looks like solidly passed. Not a great bill but an improvement.
State Issue 1 Creates a bipartisan, public process for drawing congressional districts
Selection - Votes - % of Votes
YES - 1,046,099 - 74.38%
NO - 360,369 - 25.62%
Total Votes Cast - 1,406,468
I’m guessing that roughly 26% for “No” are all pretty much GOPers.
Just a hunch…
File it under, “Huge, if true.” https://t.co/eSkpNKrTrN
— Ken Dilanian (@KenDilanianNBC) May 8, 2018
Fun facts: Vekselberg was at both the inauguration & the notorious Flynn-Putin dinner in Russia. https://t.co/6x7PF5KPJi
— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) May 9, 2018
That should be Putin/Flynn/Stein dinner… .
JUST IN: GOP lawmaker defeated in upset in primary for North Carolina seat Dems aim to flip https://t.co/hosOhlEcJf pic.twitter.com/V30glJtzv1
— The Hill (@thehill) May 9, 2018
If you show up, you can win. https://t.co/Qutdqqc4pH
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) May 9, 2018
This Ohio District 12 Republican primary is going to be real close. Leneghan is closing. Main players in results below.
Kevin Bacon (R) - 9,377 - 14.39%
Troy Balderson (R) - 19,164 - 29.41%
Tim Kane (R) - 11,061 - 16.97%
Melanie Leneghan (R) - 18,306 - 28.09%
re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth
What do we know about the person who defeated him?
Trump’s decision to pull out of the Iran nuclear agreement has been coming since at least September 9, 2015, when he appeared at a rally alongside Ted Cruz and Phil Robertson, from “Duck Dynasty.” https://t.co/3iMcRnsEnk
— The New Yorker (@NewYorker) May 8, 2018
re: #49 ObserverArt
This Ohio District 12 Republican primary is going to be real close. Leneghan is closing. Main players in results below.
Kevin Bacon (R) - 9,377 - 14.39%
Troy Balderson (R) - 19,164 - 29.41%
Tim Kane (R) - 11,061 - 16.97%
Melanie Leneghan (R) - 18,306 - 28.09%
This is one Kevin I’m NOT related to…
re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth
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That they would all knowingly agree to pay the money to EC and not Cohen’s “practice”…..
Dont worry. No one will ever find it….
re: #50 Belafon
What do we know about the person who defeated him?
Pastor Harris (winner) attacked Pittenger (loser) for not being conservative enough.
Harris will face McCready in November
re: #46 TedStriker
I’m guessing that roughly 26% for “No” are all pretty much GOPers.
Just a hunch…
Most likely. Probably also count in the confused.
Republicans only agreed to this legislation because in some ways it still gives the majority control of districts. The differences is they have to have minority party representation and it all has to be above board so the public can weigh in.
I hear the Ohio GOP went with it because they feared they would lose too many seats in a Blue wave and not have any control as the Democrats and upset Ohioans would force some kind of a totally politically neutral method of drawing districts. They think they can still control the Ohio State House and get enough control over the new process.
Ohio is considered one of, if not the worst example of gerrymandering in the U.S.
It’s a start.
If you’re getting burnt out on primary results, Nebraska’s is next week. Just a heads up.
For statewide offices (and Federal offices), Democrats have someone running for every position (except state treasurer, for which my wife is running her write-in campaign) for the first time in many years.
re: #52 Joe Bacon 🌹
This is one Kevin I’m NOT related to…
You related to the other one? The good one.
pls meme from this century mitch pic.twitter.com/O3nWS4Bq8O
— darth™ (@darth) May 9, 2018
Hip, hippo, hooray! Hamilton County voters showed their love for Fiona and friends tonight by voting to renew the levy that helps fund the @CincinnatiZoo.
Couldn’t you just bellow with joy?
https://t.co/fxN0PvRiG5 pic.twitter.com/pFu1mfXlfQ— WCPO (@WCPO) May 9, 2018
I understand the need to have people who can represent opposing views on pundit panels. But our news orgs have an obligation to stop letting on liars and propagandists and giving them a platform as if they are a valid alternative voice and not a liar.
— Molly McKew (@MollyMcKew) May 9, 2018
When one side is constantly defending liars.
re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth
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And the library levy passed too https://t.co/tS8ufRR4xR pic.twitter.com/D2Cfes6uUI
— Enquirer (@Enquirer) May 9, 2018
Canada to formally apologize for 1939 decision to turn away ship of Jewish refugees: Trudeau https://t.co/Nc2aB0EJVO @GlobePolitics pic.twitter.com/8lHVq5TJ0D
— The Globe and Mail (@globeandmail) May 9, 2018
re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth
Really shouldn’t have taken almost 80 years for that to happen.
LOL..so much delusion in one tweet.
“Dennis Kucinich & Tara Samples ran a strong campaign that won support across a wide spectrum of Ohioans. Voters want to have a choice in elections & they welcome the discussion about how we can improve our country.” - @ninaturner on tonight’s results. https://t.co/IkyQH9M6Rx
— Our Revolution (@OurRevolution) May 9, 2018
If allegations are true, “you have to look at whether the Russians are trying to directly finance Donald Trump and the RNC” @DavidCornDC on allegations Michael Cohen received $500,000 from Russian oligarch Vekselberg pic.twitter.com/gPfX1wM6ra
— TheBeat w/Ari Melber (@TheBeatWithAri) May 8, 2018
re: #66 gocart mozart
@MichaelAvenatti: “There are OUTFLOWS to come out of Cohen’s bank account too and I would encourage the Congressman (Himes, who’s on air) to put as much pressure as possible on his colleagues to subpoena these records.” Bloop!
— Ale (@aliasvaughn) May 9, 2018
Note: in case I wasn’t clear, @MichaelAvenatti was saying that these figures ARE going to come out, and he was implying he already knows. And he encouraged Rep. Himes to get subpoenas for this bc the US public deserves to know. https://t.co/BizfM46h5O
— Ale (@aliasvaughn) May 9, 2018
Ran across this theory tosser….🤦♀️ pic.twitter.com/kTor8Dyyoa
— lovemymotherjuggs🍩 (@motherjuggs) May 9, 2018
Shell Co Cohen used for Stormy Daniels deal also received payments totaling $1 million from U.S. co. linked to Russian oligarch, interviews, records reviewed by NYT, confirms much of @MichaelAvenatti report https://t.co/bWJbDRIV0p
— jimrutenberg (@jimrutenberg) May 8, 2018
ONE ACCOUNT? YOU USED THE SAME ACCOUNT?
This is what happens when rich people do crimes. Fucking dilettantes. https://t.co/T4vyqGZGtx— John Rogers (@jonrog1) May 9, 2018
re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth
“Dennis Kucinich & Tara Samples ran a strong campaign that won support across a wide spectrum of Ohioans. Voters want to have a choice in elections & they welcome the discussion about how we can improve our country.” - @ninaturner on tonight’s results. https://t.co/IkyQH9M6Rx
— Our Revolution (@OurRevolution) May 9, 2018
“We Won!” Says the losers high on the BernBro supply. https://t.co/4eu9slLTHa
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) May 9, 2018
I have a question to ask before conking out for the night.
Has Sean Hannity made any noise about today’s revelations since he is a Cohen client?
Or is this getting too deep and Sean will not be making much of this any longer?
re: #9 ObserverArt
As expected…Mike DeWine wins Republican primary for Governor. Will be a hotly contested election between him and Richard Cordray. This may be one of the more intense runs for Ohio Governor in some time due to national politics.
DeWine is going to have to be careful about how much Trump love he claims. And that little puzzle means he could suffer from the Trump base if he doesn’t buddy up to Trump. And that will cost him with old time Ohio Republican moderates and independents.
Cordray can bring up how he was run out of the Consumers Protection Bureau due to Trump and what that appears to have resulted in with Trump putting executive
Mick Mulvaney in the job.DeWine can also play dirty when cornered. Cordray is usually seen as the clean-cut boyish nice guy.
Lots of contrasts in this race.
Equally odious is DeWine’s running mate, Jon Husted. Ugh. I need to send Cordray some $$.
Just as a reminder about how heinous DeWine is, here is the Plunderbund DeWine search page (well, just the first page of it—they’ve been covering his heinousness for years.)
For example:
Plunderbund 2014 Year In Review: Top 20+ Articles About Mike DeWine
BREAKING: Department of State announcing that @SecPompeo has taken custody of the 3 American hostages that were in North Korea
— Michael Moates (@freedom_moates) May 9, 2018
They were PRISONERS … stop with the ‘hostages’ thing! https://t.co/jnl46Qhsyj
— Archivist1000 (@Archivist1000) May 9, 2018
re: #73 ObserverArt
I have a question to ask before conking out for the night.
Has Sean Hannity made any noise about today’s revelations since he is a Cohen client?
Or is this getting too deep and Sean will not be making much of this any longer?
Yes he is a Cohen client. That was revealed in court … he was one of two (the other being Trump). Sean Hannity tried to brush it off by saying he was just asking real estate advice, after which Hannity was revealed to have used massive amounts of HUD money from an Obama programme he regularly bashed on his show to buy property.
LOL:
I don’t usually watch porn, but this Stormy Daniels video I found is excellent. It’s titled:
“Stormy F*cks The President So Hard, He Resigns”
It’s probably gonna win an AVN Award! 🤣— RESISTANCE WAVE 🏄🏻♂️ (@ResistanceWave) May 9, 2018
Oh man. pic.twitter.com/4jAcxYV0Yg
— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) May 8, 2018
Our Revolution on the devastating loss by Dennis Kucinich… pic.twitter.com/B3tsOyhqkn
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) May 9, 2018
re: #76 Anymouse 🌹
Yes he is a Cohen client. That was revealed in court … he was one of two (the other being Trump). Sean Hannity tried to brush it off by saying he was just asking real estate advice, after which Hannity was revealed to have used massive amounts of HUD money from an Obama programme he regularly bashed on his show to buy property.
LOL:
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I already know that. I am asking if he has mouthed off today since Cohen just went higher in hotness to be standing around.
I just have a feeling that after Rudy’s show last week and today’s info about this Trump slush fund…even Hannity might abandon any look of supporting “his real estate lawyer.”
Shorter: Did today shut up Hannity?
re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth
The Hill has no editors.
Pastor Mark Harris has upset Rep. Robert Pittenger (R-N.C.) in his Tuesday primary, toppling the incumbent congressman after nearly him in a primary two years ago.
WTF does that even mean?
AT&T confirms it paid Trump lawyer Michael Cohen for “insights” on the administration https://t.co/mwmA9TXb0X pic.twitter.com/FD3cZA0o7y
— CNBC Now (@CNBCnow) May 8, 2018
It means motherfucking AT&T bribed the goddamn President of the United States!
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) May 9, 2018
What these titans of industry are saying is they started funneling barrels of cash at Michael Cohen - known as a graduate of the worst law school in the country, a taxi medallion scammer, and Trump’s longtime fixer - after Trump’s election because of his keen mind. Alrighty then.
— Dan Murphy (@bungdan) May 8, 2018
re: #72 teleskiguy
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Honored to meet with the Israeli Ambassador today. Need to hold Iran accountable for the deaths of US Military personnel and spreading terrorism around the globe… pic.twitter.com/wA8Ak3IpeV
— Devin Nunes (@DevinNunes) May 9, 2018
Wondering when Nunes is planning on holding the US government accountable for the deaths of US Military personnel… https://t.co/z01vLMwdHO
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) May 9, 2018
re: #81 MsJ
The Hill has no editors.
WTF does that even mean?
I’d guess they dropped the word “beating” or “defeating” him in the last phrase.
Big news in Durham, NC: Sheriff Mike Andrews has been defeated by a huge margin by Clarence Birkhead, via @indyweek.
Andrews partnered with ICE, & he brought felony charges against people involved in toppling a confederate statue. More: https://t.co/EnfrexAGQR pic.twitter.com/wxNAW8UTMC— Taniel (@Taniel) May 9, 2018
re: #57 HappyWarrior
You related to the other one? The good one.
He has all the beauty. Me, if my hair grows out I’m condemned to look like Drew Carey…
This is what I think Avenatti did: Stormy had a photo copy of the $130,000 check. Avenatti sent a subpoena to the bank that issued it asking for all records for that account and BINGO! LOL
— Ed Mix (@the_edwin_mix) May 9, 2018
re: #89 Joe Bacon 🌹
He has all the beauty. Me, if my hair grows out I’m condemned to look like Drew Carey…
I hear ya. Cousin Marty O’Malley can play the guitar and give a speech but I’m more handsome!
Trump Administration Wants to Let Teens Fall Off Roofs so They Can Feed Their Teen Families (Wonkette, more at the link):
The Trump administration promised us it would make America rich by getting rid of burdensome government regulations, and wow, has it ever come through! Coal mines are now allowed to destroy creeks and otherwise not clean up after themselves, and dangerous pesticides can be sold for agricultural use as long as they only poison migrant farm workers, and now we’ve got the imminent return of child labor! Some proposed Department of Labor rules that would allow 16- and 17-year-olds to work long hours in dangerous conditions sure sound like a step in the right direction, that is for sure.
The DOL will propose relaxing current rules — known as Hazardous Occupations Orders (HOs) — that prohibit 16- and 17-year-old apprentices and student learners from receiving extended, supervised training in certain dangerous jobs, said […] two sources. That includes roofing work, as well as operating chainsaws, and various other power-driven machines that federal law recognizes as too dangerous for youth younger than 18.
Don’t cry for me Appalachia!!
“Don’t feel sorry for me.” Former coal executive Don Blankenship concedes in West Virginia GOP Senate primary. https://t.co/HaZh0AJcAA pic.twitter.com/jJrg1MfY0v
— CBS News (@CBSNews) May 9, 2018
This guy really conceded with “don’t feel sorry for me. I’m gonna dip to Paris for a bit.” https://t.co/XjH7yQu6Xt
— Franklin Leonard (@franklinleonard) May 9, 2018
All thru my wild days, my mad existence…
re: #89 Joe Bacon 🌹
He has all the beauty. Me, if my hair grows out I’m condemned to look like Drew Carey…
Not a bad place to be, these days.
re: #93 JordanRules
Don’t cry for me Appalachia!!
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All thru my wild days, my mad existence…
I don’t. I never will.
re: #93 JordanRules
Don’t cry for me Appalachia!!
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All thru my wild days, my mad existence…
Sounds like a bit like the titular character from My Dinner with Andre, if Andre was a manslaughtering coal baron.
“Russians pay Trump associate” and “Trump associate pays off porn stars” and “Corporations pay Trump associate for ‘advice’” — all in one story.
— Nick Confessore (@nickconfessore) May 9, 2018
What’s interesting is that all of this was happening before/during the election. What were reporters doing with their time and resources? https://t.co/WdLetZIPiF
— GothamGirlBlue (@GothamGirlBlue) May 9, 2018
re: #98 freetoken
For all you latent pyros out there, instructions on which gloves to wear when dealing with nitric acid:
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White or red?
So what exactly was our vaunted press doing under the auspices of the First Amendment? What were they seeking? What answers did they need to interrogate the quality of the next administrator of the United States’ federal government?
— GothamGirlBlue (@GothamGirlBlue) May 9, 2018
re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth
LOL..so much delusion in one tweet.
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It was such a strong campaign that the only two counties Cordray didn’t win were won by Schiavoni.
Bite me, Nina.
re: #73 ObserverArt
I have a question to ask before conking out for the night.
Has Sean Hannity made any noise about today’s revelations since he is a Cohen client?
Or is this getting too deep and Sean will not be making much of this any longer?
Oh, I hope Slumlord Sean is forced to perp walk on Lego blocks!
At the same time that Cohen was setting up a cash pipeline from foreign oligarchs and US corporations to Donny’s bank account, the US press was focused on:
- “Hillary sneezed, she must be dying of a wasting illness!”
- “Bernie’s right, we need to see these transcripts from speeches given years ago!”
- “Well yeah, Trump’s a sleezeball, but Bill’s a horndog!”
- “Despite all the documentation and IRS filings, we’re still not convinced the Clinton Foundation is legit!”
- “HER EMAILS!!!!!”
I’m sure that is was simple mistake./////
In light of recent news I’m even more confident that @seanhannity retention of Michael Cohen to advise on real estate decisions was completely legit. 🕸🕷
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) May 9, 2018
re: #87 Anymouse 🌹
I’d guess they dropped the word “beating” or “defeating” him in the last phrase.
Maybe. Could be…
“Pastor Mark Harris has upset Rep. Robert Pittenger (R-N.C.) in his Tuesday primary, toppling the incumbent congressman after nearly decapitating killing you knowing him in a primary two years ago.”
One really never knows. 😜
Everybody having fun with this
Mitch McConnell blows away @DonBlankenship for ‘Cocaine Mitch’ ad after failed senate bid https://t.co/7SEnou7ouH pic.twitter.com/4YX9whtpEz
— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) May 9, 2018
Wow. DeWine 60% to Taylor 40%. I didn’t expect it to be that close.
I think that shows DeWine is going to have trouble making the Trumpers happy this fall. They may not turn out for him.
Good news for Cordray who hopefully will be the next Ohio governor.
re: #91 HappyWarrior
I hear ya. Cousin Marty O’Malley can play the guitar and give a speech but I’m more handsome!
Not doubting you, kiddo, but that’s a pretty steep hill to climb!
re: #98 freetoken
For all you latent pyros out there, instructions on which gloves to wear when dealing with nitric acid:
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Hm. I’m not a pyro, but I have to deal with nitric acid for certain types of water samples. I’ll take a look.
re: #113 BeachDem
Not doubting you, kiddo, but that’s a pretty steep hill to climb!
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I’m just being cocky lol. He’s better looking than me.
“Connect to Good” is AT&T’s charitable arm, FYI.
— Dedelvis (@TheDedelvis) May 9, 2018
According to the commission’s website (https://t.co/oqH6mNYcLc), the only woman who fits that description is @nitafarahany. But she told me that never happened, and @bariweiss never contacted her to check if it did.
— Jeff Bercovici (@jeffbercovici) May 9, 2018
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Without answers, it looks a lot like you let an ideological ally make his case using an apocryphal blind item that implicates a real person who was given no chance to refute it. Pretty bad look for a story about a people who “pride themselves on pursuing the truth.”
— Jeff Bercovici (@jeffbercovici) May 9, 2018
Closing for the night. ATT and other American companies caught up in this Cohen/Trump slush fund BS may be forced to spill their guts that they were indeed buying Trump influence.
They probably don’t want to get caught up in too much public association with all of this. So, they may be real easy to get info out of for keeping it all on the down-low.
Selling influence to American companies doesn’t even involve Russia.
I think another front in the war Trump finds himself in just started. And the search into Russian contacts opened it.
re: #116 HappyWarrior
I’m just being cocky lol. He’s better looking than me.
And I’m just being a smartass and looking for any opportunity to post that picture.
This is what Fuckface Von Clownstick and his entire fucking family’s grave should look like when they die. pic.twitter.com/dn4lkt5U35
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) May 8, 2018
re: #111 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Everybody having fun with this
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re: #120 BeachDem
And I’m just being a smartass and looking for any opportunity to post that picture.
I wish I still had that article where he says where his family was from. O’Malley is a very common name in County Mayo where his family and my third great grandmother were from. You ever seen the movie The Quiet Man? My family’s from the next town over. A priest there, another O’Malley coined the term boycott during the Irish Land Reform movement of the 1870’s. I think he might have been a cousin of my second great grandfather’s but Irish records from that era are non-existent.
I guess it comes down to who you think is smarter: Obama and the governments of China, France, Germany, and the UK… or the guy who bragged about successfully identifying a camel on a dementia test.
— Guy Endore-Kaiser (@GuyEndoreKaiser) May 8, 2018
I knew that Turner and the others were going to spin their massive loss tonight as a “huge win.” Which means that, starting tomorrow, we can look forward to being told that their candidates doing “so well” tonight means the guy who won the primary now needs to bow and scrape to the Bro vote if they want to win in November.
re: #125 Targetpractice
I knew that Turner and the others were going to spin their massive loss tonight as a “huge win.” Which means that, starting tomorrow, we can look forward to being told that their candidates doing “so well” tonight means the guy who won the primary now needs to bow and scrape to the Bro vote if they want to win in November.
BE NICE TO US because you know they’d be totally gracious in victory.
re: #126 HappyWarrior
BE NICE TO US because you know they’d be totally gracious in victory.
Yeah and there is a Getting Republicans Elected Every November Jill Stein clone on the Ohio November Ballot for Governor…
I think today’s news finally broke my brain.
— Michael Ian Black (@michaelianblack) May 9, 2018
re: #123 HappyWarrior
I wish I still had that article where he says where his family was from. O’Malley is a very common name in County Mayo where his family and my third great grandmother were from. You ever seen the movie The Quiet Man? My family’s from the next town over. A priest there, another O’Malley coined the term boycott during the Irish Land Reform movement of the 1870’s. I think he might have been a cousin of my second great grandfather’s but Irish records from that era are non-existent.
Is this the article you’re looking for?
My O’Malleys were from up in the mountains between Galway and Mayo in the valley where The Quiet Man was filmed. If you keep going through Cong, the road up through Ouchterard and you go out to where Peacock’s is, and if you bang a right and go through that pass it will dead-end right there at Maam. And half the houses in Maam are owned by O’Malleys…
My great-grandfather kind of stepped out of a blank page. All we knew was that he was from Galway, as many people in Pittsburgh were. I got his death certificate, found out his father’s name [Thomas] and his mother’s, and wrote over to Galway for death certificates. I narrowed it down - there were only two Thomas O’Malleys with sons named Martin born approximately the right time. Only one of them was born in the exact year, the one who immigrated to America.
re: #24 JordanRules
We do this here every couple weeks here for levity. Stop acting brand new and let me live.
You know damn well how seriously I take this and how I don’t feel safe or immune from working on the ground because I’m lucky enough to live in a blue state like you.
Try living in Texas.
Oh, my goodness! Cruz and Abbot and Patrick and Cornyn, oh my!
Plus the ninnies, mouth breathers, and feebs that make the R caucus in Congress. And don’t get me started on the Texas legislature. Molly Ivins famously noted that “every two years, little villages all across the great State send their idiots to legislate in Austin.”
She was dead solid on target. The Tea Party runs this State, and with the House Speaker (one of the last Reasonable Republican left in Texas) not running again, it’s going to get just batshit crazy.
Think Gohmert. On a local level, it’s Gohmerts all the way down.
re: #130 austin_blue
On a local level, it’s Gohmerts all the way down.
This is a scary model of the local universe.
re: #129 BeachDem
Is this the article you’re looking for?
My O’Malleys were from up in the mountains between Galway and Mayo in the valley where The Quiet Man was filmed. If you keep going through Cong, the road up through Ouchterard and you go out to where Peacock’s is, and if you bang a right and go through that pass it will dead-end right there at Maam. And half the houses in Maam are owned by O’Malleys…
My great-grandfather kind of stepped out of a blank page. All we knew was that he was from Galway, as many people in Pittsburgh were. I got his death certificate, found out his father’s name [Thomas] and his mother’s, and wrote over to Galway for death certificates. I narrowed it down - there were only two Thomas O’Malleys with sons named Martin born approximately the right time. Only one of them was born in the exact year, the one who immigrated to America.
Yep! I definitely think we could be related. I’m not going to bug him to take a DNA test tho lol. I’m not crazy.
re: #98 freetoken
For all you latent pyros out there, instructions on which gloves to wear when dealing with nitric acid:
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It’s best to use someone else’s hands when handling this substance.
re: #132 HappyWarrior
Yep! I definitely think we could be related. I’m not going to bug him to take a DNA test tho lol. I’m not crazy.
You could go to where his band’s playing and when he takes his shirt off and starts to sweat, you could offer him a cloth to wipe himself down and, ummm, what were we talking about again?
re: #118 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
You have to remember that though Sam Harris is a neuroscientist and speaker on atheistic subjects, he is also a conservative. Prominent conservatives always defend conservatism first and foremost, over everything else, including lying about others when necessary. (It’s why I keep arguing conservatism is a religion.)
re: #100 jaunte
What’s interesting is that all of this was happening before/during the election. What were reporters doing with their time and resources?
Why they were locked up in a cage, listening to trump rant b.s. while his supporters screamed at them.
re: #134 BeachDem
You could go to where his band’s playing and when he takes his shirt off and starts to sweat, you could offer him a cloth to wipe himself down and, ummm, what were we talking about again?
Squirrel!
re: #134 BeachDem
You could go to where his band’s playing and when he takes his shirt off and starts to sweat, you could offer him a cloth to wipe himself down and, ummm, what were we talking about again?
Haha. On a serious note, my O’Malley kin are literally from the next town over from Cong of Quiet Man fame. Some are still there I see. A priest who is a distant cousin documented the family. It’s tough though since a lot of renaming goes on. Not being Jewish, I’m curious if that custom is prevalent in that community. I’ve seen it a lot with the Irish and Slovaks in my family. Less so with the Germans and Slovenes.
re: #136 fern01
Why they were locked up in a cage, listening to trump rant b.s. while his supporters screamed at them.
And covering Benghazi, her e-mails, her obvious fatal illness, the Bernie and Jill revolution, and…what?… Russian ‘Bots were pushing all of those memes?
Well, I never!!
re: #135 Anymouse 🌹
You have to remember that though Sam Harris is a neuroscientist and speaker on atheistic subjects, he is also a conservative. Prominent conservatives always defend conservatism first and foremost, over everything else, including lying about others when necessary. (It’s why I keep arguing conservatism is a religion.)
Uh Harris isn’t a conservative. He’s an Islamaphobe but he’s not a conservative.
re: #140 HappyWarrior
Uh Harris isn’t a conservative. He’s an Islamaphobe but he’s not a conservative.
One of my favorite vloggers/podcasters, Steve Shives, thinks Harris is an unredeemable asshole.
I have to agree with him on that.
re: #142 TedStriker
One of my favorite vloggers/podcasters, Steve Shives, thinks Harris is an unredeemable asshole.
I have to agree with him on that.
Yeah from what I know about him, I think so too. I think Bill Maher is too but no one’s mistaken Maher for a conservative.
re: #130 austin_blue
Try living in Texas.
I did for a spell. H-town. Some amazing meat and three spots!
Texas can be so funnily provincial.
re: #143 HappyWarrior
Yeah from what I know about him, I think so too. I think Bill Maher is too but no one’s mistaken Maher for a conservative.
Frankly, if someone’s a modern, dyed-in-the-wool “libertarian”, as Harris and Maher are, then there’s no real difference between them and modern “conservatives” where the rubber meets the road; as a matter of fact, the two groups tend to agree on much more than they disagree.
New reading: The Wave. Yep I’ve got summer on my mind.
re: #145 TedStriker
Frankly, if someone’s a modern, dyed-in-the-wool “libertarian”, as Harris and Maher are, then there’s no real difference between them and modern “conservatives” where the rubber meets the road; as a matter of fact, the two groups tend to agree on much more than they disagree.
I don’t know. I wouldn’t call those two well Maher anyhow libertarian. Maher seems to favor government intervention in the economy. Don’t get me wrong. He’s got that libertarian bro mentality but he’s more closer to a lefty than not. That said, he’s still a jerk who is lazy and doesn’t do his homework and is smug as hell. It’s too bad because I do like his format for a show because I like lively discussion but I can’t stand him. I
re: #145 TedStriker
Frankly, if someone’s a modern, dyed-in-the-wool “libertarian”, as Harris and Maher are, then there’s no real difference between them and modern “conservatives” where the rubber meets the road; as a matter of fact, the two groups tend to agree on much more than they disagree.
Harris describes himself as a liberal, and states that he supports raising taxes on the very wealthy, the decriminalizing of drugs and same-sex marriage. He was critical of the Bush administration’s war in Iraq, fiscal policy, and treatment of science.
During the 2016 United States presidential election, Harris supported Hillary Clinton in the Democratic Party presidential primaries against Bernie Sanders and despite calling her “a terribly flawed candidate for the presidency”, he favored her in the general election and came out strongly in opposition to Donald Trump’s candidacy.
Doesn’t make him any less of an asshole, but doesn’t make him a libertarian or a conservative.
In most places a warm handshake would suffice. pic.twitter.com/fXamMdYMI7
— Larry Lynam (@scopedbylarry) May 9, 2018
re: #148 BeachDem
Harris describes himself as a liberal, and states that he supports raising taxes on the very wealthy, the decriminalizing of drugs and same-sex marriage. He was critical of the Bush administration’s war in Iraq, fiscal policy, and treatment of science.
During the 2016 United States presidential election, Harris supported Hillary Clinton in the Democratic Party presidential primaries against Bernie Sanders and despite calling her “a terribly flawed candidate for the presidency”, he favored her in the general election and came out strongly in opposition to Donald Trump’s candidacy.
Doesn’t make him any less of an asshole, but doesn’t make him a libertarian or a conservative.
Yep.
Maher and Harris kind of give me that vibe I worry about with my brother in that yeah they’re liberal minded on paper but don’t show much empathy. Maher doesn’t seem to worry about the children who have been endangered by Trump’s immigration policy, the Muslim-Americans who get harassed, etc. So yeah while Bill is okay with pot, doesn’t care who you fuck, and is generally more opposed to Trump than not, he’s not someone I’d want by my side since he’s a dick.
re: #140 HappyWarrior
Uh Harris isn’t a conservative. He’s an Islamaphobe but he’s not a conservative.
Interesting how he retweeted Bari Weiss:
An alliance of heretics is making an end run around the mainstream — and finding enormous new audiences thirsty to discuss subjects that have become taboo. Meet the Intellectual Dark Web: https://t.co/iveK9LoXPd
— Bari Weiss (@bariweiss) May 8, 2018
Or how he throws in with racists such as Charles Murray:
vox.com
And bashing so-called “identity politics” …
medium.com
He also supported Ben Carson’s and Ted Cruz’s assertions that we should only admit Christians into the nation. He also said that Carson was an imbecile but would vote for him over someone such as Noam Chomsky.
Does he identify as a conservative? No. Does he act like one? Yes.
And of course his well-known Islamophobia. All positions held by the right-wing.
re: #152 Anymouse 🌹
Interesting how he retweeted Bari Weiss:
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Or how he throws in with racists such as Charles Murray:
vox.comAnd bashing so-called “identity politics” …
medium.comHe also supported Ben Carson’s and Ted Cruz’s assertions that we should only admit Christians into the nation. He also said that Carson was an imbecile but would vote for him over someone such as Noam Chomsky.
Does he identify as a conservative? No. Does he act like one? Yes.
And of course his well-known Islamophobia. All positions held by the right-wing.
And yet BD pointed you to him saying he supports a progressive income tax, decriminalized drugs, SSM, etc. He’s a dickbag. I won’t argue that point at all but he’s not a conservative. He’s an asshole who definitely acts like a RWer. Just admit you were wrong on this one.
Sorry AM but you’re engaging in the same No True Whatever fallacy you accuse liberal Christians of engaging in when they criticize the RR. By all means criticize Harris for acting like an asshole and definitely holding some positions definitely anathema to what we as liberals believe but it’s incorrect to identify him as a conservative. Sergey will be the first to tell you that leftists can be just as intolerant as right wingers on a lot of these matters where Harris is an asshole.
re: #148 BeachDem
Harris describes himself as a liberal, and states that he supports raising taxes on the very wealthy, the decriminalizing of drugs and same-sex marriage. He was critical of the Bush administration’s war in Iraq, fiscal policy, and treatment of science.
During the 2016 United States presidential election, Harris supported Hillary Clinton in the Democratic Party presidential primaries against Bernie Sanders and despite calling her “a terribly flawed candidate for the presidency”, he favored her in the general election and came out strongly in opposition to Donald Trump’s candidacy.
Doesn’t make him any less of an asshole, but doesn’t make him a libertarian or a conservative.
re: #152 Anymouse 🌹
Interesting how he retweeted Bari Weiss:
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Or how he throws in with racists such as Charles Murray:
vox.comAnd bashing so-called “identity politics” …
medium.comHe also supported Ben Carson’s and Ted Cruz’s assertions that we should only admit Christians into the nation. He also said that Carson was an imbecile but would vote for him over someone such as Noam Chomsky.
Does he identify as a conservative? No. Does he act like one? Yes.
And of course his well-known Islamophobia. All positions held by the right-wing.
I stand corrected on Harris identifying as a “libertarian”, but as AM pointed out, he acts like a “conservative” on some key issues and like a “libertarian” on the things they tend to support, like drugs and SSM.
With “allies” like Harris, who needs enemies?
Speaking of scientists and their sometimes strange associations, the Birch Society put up this video:
Snoke has long been trotted out by creationists as the exemplar scientist who is a creationist.
Yes, he does real physics. But because he is attached to conservative Christian beliefs he has carved out a space for himself in old-Earth creationist circles.
He’s taken this tact for some time, having teamed up with the IDiots (Behe) in their teleological quest to make science into a religious discipline. From 2009: David Snoke: Creationist Physicist?
There aren’t many real physicists in the US who are creationists - you could probably fit them all into a small hotel room.
But since they exist, the likes of the Birch Society trots them out as props.
re: #154 HappyWarrior
Sorry AM but you’re engaging in the same No True Whatever fallacy you accuse liberal Christians of engaging in when they criticize the RR. By all means criticize Harris for acting like an asshole and definitely holding some positions definitely anathema to what we as liberals believe but it’s incorrect to identify him as a conservative. Sergey will be the first to tell you that leftists can be just as intolerant as right wingers on a lot of these matters where Harris is an asshole.
Look, most everybody’s a mixed bag, particularly in politics; however, the best reason not to like Harris is he’s an insufferable dick.
re: #155 TedStriker
I stand corrected on Harris identifying as a “libertarian”, but as AM pointed out, he acts like a “conservative” on some key issues and like a “libertarian” on the things they tend to support, like drugs and SSM.
With “allies” like Harris, who needs enemies?
I think we all agree the guy is a prick but I just don’t think it’s correct to identify him as a libertarian or conservative.
re: #158 TedStriker
Look, most everybody’s a mixed bag, particularly in politics; however, the best reason not to like Harris is he’s an insufferable dick.
Now that I absolutely agree on. I just want to make it clear that someone can be liberal and an insufferable dick. I hate seeing it as a liberal but it does happen because some people are fucking insufferable dicks.
More Harrisisms:
While Harris said his “default is to believe women,” he claimed “the #MeToo movement is showing itself liable to wrap up people like Harvey Weinstein and Aziz Ansari in the same sentence,” arguing that “a bad and awkward date” is “being lumped in the same sense that is clearly rape.”
Very liberal of him.
He also called for nuclear strikes on the Muslim world … very liberal, then when called out on it claimed it was a “thought experiment.” The sections of his book “The End of Faith” attacking Palestinian atrocities while ignoring Israeli ones is drawn from Alan Dershowitz’s work.
re: #162 Anymouse 🌹
I tend no to judge people’s positions on what they say, but what they do. Harris says he is a liberal. His actions indicate otherwise.
And I’m sure you can find writings by him expressing his views on said points. Why is it so hard for you to think that someone can hold some or even mostly liberal positions and still be a dick? I’m not denying the guy’s an asshole who definitely holds some very unliberal positions.
Anyhow I’m dropping this because I think we agree in principle that Harris is a dickhead.
re: #144 JordanRules
I did for a spell. H-town. Some amazing meat and three spots!
Texas can be so funnily provincial.
You lived in Harlingen?
Good Tex-Mex.
re: #163 HappyWarrior
And I’m sure you can find writings by him expressing his views on said points. Why is it so hard for you to think that someone can hold some or even mostly liberal positions and still be a dick? I’m not denying the guy’s an asshole who definitely holds some very unliberal positions.
I agree he’s a jerk. He doesn’t hold “mostly liberal positions” which is the point. He also holds positions against the “demographic ticking time bomb” (brown people) in his anti-immigration positions.
re: #164 HappyWarrior
Anyhow I’m dropping this because I think we agree in principle that Harris is a dickhead.
Same. Moving on to something else. How bout those Cubbies?
re: #167 Anymouse 🌹
Same. Moving on to something else. How bout those Cubbies?
Meh my team is in the AL East cellar and they got wiped out tonight. Looks like we’re going back to the Red Sox and Yankees dominating the East. Oh well. Fun while it lasted. O’s need new management.
BTW, in that video, and another that the Birchers just put up, is the title “The Origins of Life and the Universe, Istanbul, Turkey”.
Hmm… Turkey… creationism… who ever could be behind this?
Yeah, you get one guess.
re: #169 freetoken
BTW, in that video, and another that the Birchers just put up, is the title “The Origins of Life and the Universe, Istanbul, Turkey”.
Hmm… Turkey… creationism… who ever could be behind this?
Yeah, you get one guess.
Is it another lunch meat creationist? :)
re: #168 HappyWarrior
Meh my team is in the AL East cellar and they got wiped out tonight. Looks like we’re going back to the Red Sox and Yankees dominating the East. Oh well. Fun while it lasted. O’s need new management.
Not baseball, but still:
I’m just glad my Predators pulled off a blowout in Game 6 against the Jets to come back here for the last game; I hope they can keep the momentum to go on against Vegas in the next round.
I’m also glad the Capitals sent the Penguins home; even if the Preds lose this next game, the schadenfreude that the team that beat us last year in the Stanley Cup finals won’t be defending it tastes sweet as hell ;-P
re: #172 TedStriker
I’m just glad my Predators pulled out a blowout in Game 6 againts the Jets to come back here for the last game; I hope they can keep the momentum to go on against Vegas in the next round.
I’m also glad the Capitals sent the Penguins home; even if the Preds lose this next game, the schadenfreude that the team that beat us last year for the Cup won’t be defending it tastes sweet as hell ;-P
I can’t get into hockey. The locals are naturally ecstatic about the Caps getting to the conference finals.
Snoke spoke at this year’s gathering, the 3rd annual gathering:
His presentation is the Design argument all over again. He asserts some things about biological research that I am sure real biologists could take apart quickly.
This now annual conference in Turkey is put on by the Technics & Science Research Foundation (TSRF).
They are an outlet for… yes, you know it… Adnan Oktar.
The work of the TSRF is inspired by the books of its Honorary President, Mr. Adnan Oktar, a prominent Muslim intellectual of our times, who writes under the pen-name Harun Yahya.
re: #173 HappyWarrior
I can’t get into hockey. The locals are naturally ecstatic about the Caps getting to the conference finals.
I’m a bandwagon fan, I admit; I like the Preds because they’re my hometown team, but the only time I really get interested is playoff time.
I need to bone up on my hockey basics and watch more regular-season hockey.
re: #25 fern01
There are so many “imagine if Obama did this” happenings at the minute, it is impossible not to burst into tears at what this moron is doing and will continue to do unless the GOP suffers a massive electoral defeat - and given the money and influence from within and without to corrupt the US elections - even that is looking doubtful.
I stopped with the “imagine if Obama did this” as soon as we elected a fellow with five children by three different wives.
He will have a negative impact on the GOP but unless it seriously threatens their grip on the reins of power, they will only cling tighter to him.
re: #31 Skip Intro
Sorry but I no longer find any of this funny.
I stopped laughing at Trump jokes ages ago and it is starting to make me depressive…
re: #174 freetoken
Snoke spoke at this year’s gathering, the 3rd annual gathering:
His presentation is the Design argument all over again. He asserts some things about biological research that I am sure real biologists could take apart quickly.
This now annual conference in Turkey is put on by the Technics & Science Research Foundation (TSRF).
They are an outlet for… yes, you know it… Adnan Oktar.
Ah I don’t know why I thought Ken Ham lol. Hence my lame lunch meat joke.
Anyone out here watch the California governors debate?
I tried to watch it but just didn’t have it in me to pay attention. I did see though that the wingnut on stage (Travis Allen) had a not at all crazy answer to homelessness: enforce vagrancy and loitering laws. That’s right, he wants to criminalize homelessness. I’m sure that’ll solve problems
I also tried to see what people were saying on twitter but apparently a lot of people who live in California actually think it’s terrible here (we’ve got our problems, sure, but there are at least 47 less desirable states to live in)
re: #178 HappyWarrior
Ah I don’t know why I thought Ken Ham lol. Hence my lame lunch meat joke.
There is a fellow on YouTube from Alberta who routinely disassembles Ken Ham’s claims, named Paulogia.
He calls his show “Ham and AiGs” (Ham and Eggs)
re: #100 jaunte
What’s interesting is that all of this was happening before/during the election. What were reporters doing with their time and resources? https://
showing us shots of an empty podium
The creationists like the Birchers always drag out the few Ph.D.s who are actual working scientists, who are also religious enough to be creationists, because it’s a propaganda game for them. It’s to impresses the masses who really have no education at all in science.
But very few hard scientists are in any sense “creationist” even in the Old Earth sense of Snoke.
Some working scientists are religious, for sure. My adviser in undergraduate school was such, though he never brought it up to me. But even though he was a bit of a celeb in his denomination, he was never a creationist that I know of.
No matter how bright one may be one can still suffer cognitive dissonance.
The need for design arises out of teleology, which comes about to placate the problem of “why?”
Yet as has been shown over and over, Design and teleology just kicks the can down the road, because these same creationists never answer the question “Who designed God?”
Because they can’t.
If they try, then their dissonance is exposed.
Anyway, the Birchers are now in bed with the Turkish creationists. We should have known.
re: #183 freetoken
The need for design arises out of teleology, which comes about to placate the problem of “why?”
And “why?” is something that Evolution does not concern itself with.
Even the Catholic Church sees no conflict between Evolution and Creation, the conflict only arises if you are a biblical literalist.
‘Do you have a heart? Do you have a soul?’ — Jeff Sessions got heckled while announcing an immigration plan that will separate families pic.twitter.com/drWaxRxfTN
— NowThis (@nowthisnews) May 8, 2018
re: #185 JordanRules
No, Pence does not have a heart.
Ellen’s, Dallas restaurant harassed by NRA, donates $15,000 to gun safety group https://t.co/HlYEnCdf1n
— Shareblue Media (@Shareblue) May 9, 2018
A former CIA officer, who likely helped destroy the CIA’s entire asset network in China, was just indicted for espionage, and it’s like the third biggest story today.
— Zach Dorfman (@zachsdorfman) May 8, 2018
— Joe Moschella (@joemosch) May 8, 2018
re: #189 JordanRules
Life in the Drumpfepoche is a bit noisy as far as news stories.
Speaking of which, we’re a week before the Eastern Pacific hurricane season starts, but I was looking at the water vapor imagery:
… and saw the action at 120W so decided to check out the NHC and sure enough, we might have our first storm of the year:
Blankenship threatening to run for President.
thenewcivilrightsmovement.com
re: #192 Anymouse 🌹
Blankenship threatening to run for President.
thenewcivilrightsmovement.com
He has all the qualities our nation seems to treasure.
re: #192 Anymouse 🌹
Someone’s gotta stop those Chyna People from taking over.
re: #192 Anymouse 🌹
Blankenship threatening to run for President.
thenewcivilrightsmovement.com
If the last election proved anything, it’s that the GOP is totally okay with a rich, villainous bastard so long as he screams the right obscenities at the “wrong” people.
re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
He has all the qualities
our nationconservatives seems to treasure.
Of note, if he’s running, it would be against Trump. That would be a delicious crap sandwich.
re: #196 Anymouse 🌹
Of note, if he’s running, it would be against Trump. That would be a delicious crap sandwich.
he won’t, but he would make an ideal GOP candidate
The Justice Department released information regarding the arrest of the GWB-era CIA agent who turned into an asset for Chinese intelligence services in 2010:
re: #181 JordanRules
Houston
Ah! Well it could have been Hidalgo, Hondo, Halletsville, Hutto (home of the Hippos!), Haskell (home of Rick Perry! Well actually, Paint Creek, but Haskell is the nearest real town and Paint Creek has, like, 40 people in it and Rick didn’t get a flush toilet until he was seven years old, no shit), Hereford, or Henrietta. Then there’s Hillsboro, Hemphill, Harker Heights and so on. The point being that Dallas may be referred to as “Big D”, but no one in Texas refers to Houston as “H-town”.
It’s just fucking Houston, a sprawling, behemoth of a disaster of urban planning. They have been trying to build their highway system to handle the load for thirty years and it remains a total fail.
Trump Pulls Out Of Iran Deal
vlad has turned up his setting to “destroy”
So we threaten sanctions against other countries who ignore Iran sanctions and try to maintain the deal. How the hell is that supposed to play out especially in light of the fact that Russia and China will certainly not cave?
Europe will be torn, it will be interesting to see which side they fall on.
Are we really about to knock the US down to being a third-rate world power?
re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So we threaten sanctions against other countries who ignore Iran sanctions and try to maintain the deal. How the hell is that supposed to play out especially in light of the fact that Russia and China will certainly not cave?
Europe will be torn, it will be interesting to see which side they fall on.
Are we really about to knock the US down to being a third-rate world power?
Just trying to cement that deal.
re: #199 austin_blue
Ah! Well it could have been Hidalgo, Hondo, Halletsville, Hutto (home of the Hippos!), Haskell (home of Rick Perry! Well actually, Paint Creek, but Haskell is the nearest real town and Paint Creek has, like, 40 people in it and Rick didn’t get a flush toilet until he was seven years old, no shit), Hereford, or Henrietta. Then there’s Hillsboro, Hemphill, Harker Heights and so on. The point being that Dallas may be referred to as “Big D”, but no one in Texas refers to Houston as “H-town”.
It’s just fucking Houston, a sprawling, behemoth of a disaster of urban planning. They have been trying to build their highway system to handle the load for thirty years and it remains a total fail.
So there was an R&B group that I grew up listening to in the 90s from Houston. Their name was H-town. Grew up listening to a lot of rap artists from Houston who also referred to it as such. Beyonce and her fam still call it that too.
H-Town
“H-Town” is a widely popular modern nickname for Houston.[12] It is commonly used in reference to the city both locally and internationally, especially within the entertainment community. In addition, the H-Town Blues Festival is a music festival held each year in the city,[13] and the H-Town Arena Theatre has hosted a variety of performing artists from around the country since the 1970s.[14] H-Town (with the “H” standing for Houston) is also the name of an R&B hip hop band from Houston that was formed in 1992.[15]
re: #202 wheat-dogg
Just trying to cement that deal.
Europe will have to decide in its long-term interests: they know that Trump will not be in power forever and that Russia and China are growing while the USA at best holds steady.
We are on the verge of a massive trade war with the entire world. How the heck are we supposed to benefit from that?
re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So we threaten sanctions against other countries who ignore Iran sanctions and try to maintain the deal. How the hell is that supposed to play out especially in light of the fact that Russia and China will certainly not cave?
Europe will be torn, it will be interesting to see which side they fall on.
Are we really about to knock the US down to being a third-rate power in the world?
Yeah, but it’s Obama’s fault.
I’m not sure, but this latest travesty may have run Drumpf out of things that Obama did that he has the capacity to fuck up and overturn, except for the ACA, which he succeeded in kicking one of the three legs out from under it (the personal mandate), which will result in ballooning payments for anyone who needs to get affordable health care.
Winning! So much winning! And MAGA!
I’m off to bed. Sweet scaly dreams, all.
#DivineKnowledge pic.twitter.com/jsmI1QqEMO
— Sarah Wine-Thyre 🇺🇸 (@SarahThyre) May 9, 2018
She knew. Divine knew. https://t.co/ucypQJKLnB
— shauna (@goldengateblond) May 9, 2018
re: #203 JordanRules
So there was an R&B group that I grew up listening to in the 90s from Houston. Their name was H-town. Grew up listening to a lot of rap artists from Houston who also referred to it as such. Beyonce and her fam still call it that too.
Not disagreeing, but I’ve never heard a single human refer to Houston as “H-town” and I’ve lived in Texas, in toto, for over 30 years.
re: #207 austin_blue
Not disagreeing, but I’ve never heard a single human refer to Houston as “H-town” and I’ve lived in Texas, in toto, for over 30 years.
Interesting. I have family that’s lived in Tyler forever and I’ve heard it since the 90s all the way out here in Arizona, before I ever lived there. I’ve never encountered anyone who didn’t know Big D and H-town respectively.
re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So we threaten sanctions against other countries who ignore Iran sanctions and try to maintain the deal. How the hell is that supposed to play out especially in light of the fact that Russia and China will certainly not cave?
Europe will be torn, it will be interesting to see which side they fall on.
Are we really about to knock the US down to being a third-rate world power?
That’s the one that has me just shaking my head, the threat of sanctions to force compliance from our allies. What does Donny do if all the other parties call his bluff and choose to continue to work with Iran to provide sanction relief in compliance with the JCPOA? There’s a limit to how much the executive branch can do, he would have to go to Congress to impose sanctions with real teeth. And while there are nutters aplenty in the GOP ranks, I can’t see Yertle or whoever replace ZEGS going along with a bill to sanction the EU for refusal to bow at Donny’s feet.
re: #206 JordanRules
Well damn. This is apparently photoshopped. Boooo.
re: #208 JordanRules
Interesting. I have family that’s lived in Tyler forever and I’ve heard it since the 90s all the way out here in Arizona, before I ever lived there. I’ve never encountered anyone who didn’t know Big D and H-town respectively.
I’m going through the Big D and I don’t mean Düsseldorf!
re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I’m going through the Big D and I don’t mean Düsseldorf!
D’oh!!!
re: #210 JordanRules
Well damn. This is apparently photoshopped. Boooo.
I don’t doubt that they were both in the same club at some point back then
Mitch McConnell still trolling Don Blankenship… .
Thanks for playing, @DonBlankenship. #WVSen pic.twitter.com/TV1ETgQdmu
— Team Mitch (@Team_Mitch) May 9, 2018
re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I don’t doubt that they were both in the same club at some point back then
Indeed!! That’s exactly why I thought it was legit. Ah well.
re: #215 JordanRules
Indeed!! That’s exactly why I thought it was legit. Ah well.
“Don’t believe everything you see on the Internet!”
-Abraham Lincoln
re: #214 Anymouse 🌹
Mitch McConnell still trolling Don Blankenship… .
America has nonetheless become a bad parody of itself and one that I cannot even laugh at much anymore.
Coolest story of tonight? Women!
At least 17 women candidates have won or are leading in Democratic primaries for the U.S. House. @EmergeAmerica @SheShouldRun @emilyslist— Alison L. Grimes (@AlisonForKY) May 9, 2018
re: #218 Anymouse 🌹
At least 17 women candidates have won or are leading in Democratic primaries for the U.S. House.
part of the backlash against the GOP for nominating a sexist pig and misogynist
“Some within the circle grimace at their ongoing association with Emperor Palpatine. They view his role in the mass slaughter of Jedis as too much of an overt exercise in bigotry. While others argue that it isn’t their role to impose moral boundaries on the Intellectual Dark Web” pic.twitter.com/8foFqKiHwp
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) May 8, 2018
re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
America has nonetheless become a bad parody of itself and one that I cannot even laugh at much anymore.
I enjoy watching conservatives eat their own. The press keeps trying to magic balance fairy this with “Dems in disarray,” but as shown by the Sanders supported candidates tonight, that really isn’t true.
re: #221 Anymouse 🌹
I enjoy watching conservatives eat their own. The press keeps trying to magic balance fairy this with “Dems in disarray,” but as shown by the Sanders supported candidates tonight, that really isn’t true.
So primary results indicate that there will be fewer Roy Moore, Christine O’Donnell or Sharron Angle whackjobs who blow an otherwise sound chance for the GOP.
re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So primary results indicate that there will be fewer Roy Moore, Christine O’Donnell or Sharron Angle whackjobs who blow an otherwise sound chance for the GOP.
Oh, they’ll still have their opportunity. Plenty of time for them to flame out with statements like Todd Akin’s or Richard Mourdock’s.
You got your dog-whistle wrong. It’s “sleepy EYE Chuck Todd.”
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) May 9, 2018
re: #223 Anymouse 🌹
Oh, they’ll still have their opportunity. Plenty of time for them to flame out with statements like Todd Akin’s or Richard Mourdock’s.
The people who got nominated seemed to have learned their lesson: pay lip service to Trump’s leadership but do not try to match his style or rhetoric.
They will be harder to beat than full-on whackjobs who emulate or even exceed DT for crazy statements without a fawning press to mitigate everything for them.
Gaaa … don’t read the comments.
As someone who spent years of her life putting in place sanctions on Iran under Bush and Obama, I am horrified by the delusional view that we can easily regain the leverage that took years of painstaking “sanctions diplomacy” with our allies, Russia, China, Japan and India.
— Kelly Magsamen (@kellymagsamen) May 8, 2018
It took five years of diplomacy to build the sanctions regime and two years of diplomacy to reach a Deal. Trump is blowing that up with no understanding of what’s actually in the Deal, no plan for what comes next, and no support from our closest European allies, Russia or China. https://t.co/59c3uQtKI5
— Ben Rhodes (@brhodes) May 8, 2018
The absurdity of twitter… just checked out the California governor’s “debate” (these things are never real debates.)
Online shitheads think they are clever, but they’re just fooling themselves.
Trumpism is part of America, for sure. America created Trump, not the other way around.
But the force multiplier of our modern communications has really amped up the feedback loops.
re: #226 Anymouse 🌹
Gaaa … don’t read the comments.
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As we learned with the Repeal effort last year, Donny never has a plan beyond “I don’t like it, so it must die!” Which is (as I’ve noted before) indicative of a man who long ago ceased being anything more than a figurehead within his business, dependent upon underlings to do the actual work of making his empty-headed ideas become reality.
The Korea Times doesn’t have much faith in US after pulling out of the Iran agreement.
Iran pullout a message to North Korea
President Donald Trump’s withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal is a major setback to US negotiating credibility and will complicate efforts to reach an agreement with Pyongyang over its own more advanced weapons programme, analysts say.
MIT political science professor Vipin Narang added: “Today is a stark reminder across the world: Deals are reversible and can have expiration dates, while nuclear weapons can offer lifetime insurance.”
The unilateral nature of Trump’s move is also likely to worry officials at the Blue House in Seoul.
The decision was made despite repeated personal pleas by European leaders and cast aside more than a decade and a half of careful diplomacy by Britain, China, France, Germany, Iran, Russia and past US administrations.
South Korean President Moon Jae-in has been widely praised for seizing the opportunity presented by the Winter Olympics to broker talks between Trump and Kim ― two leaders who were at loggerheads just months before, and threatening to wage a war which would inevitably devastate the South.
But the fate of the Iran deal suggests Trump could also dismiss pleas from Seoul ― a treaty ally ― in future.
Just ask the First Nation about the white man’s word.
re: #229 freetoken
The commenters to this Facebook post by Fox:
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… just can’t get over Hillary.
You know, I really, really want to start a website called “donaldjtrumpisagoddamncrook dot com”. Sadly, I don’t have the money to buy a domain name.
re: #208 JordanRules
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West Texas Intermediate crude has hit $71.00
Welcome back to Republican gas prices.
re: #233 Single-handed sailor
West Texas Intermediate crude has hit $71.00
Welcome back to Republican gas prices.
putin is smiling
The Great Recession of 2008 was tightly coupled to liquid fuel prices.
It’s another one of those nasty systems of feedback and feedforward loops.
Because liquid fuels play such a central role in the American economy, there is an inescapable embrace of the price of liquid fuels and employment.
One of the effects: miles driven per year goes down in the depths of the recession, but the miles were also under negative pressure by high gasoline prices.
In turn, when the recession really hits hard, driving goes down, and thus demand for fuel goes down, and liquids prices go down.
But because employment is tied to fuel production and consumption, less fuel production and consumption means less jobs in that sector of the economy.
This has long been known. For decades now, specialists in this area have tried to convince the US that the less we depend upon petroleum the better off we’ll be.
That’s why alcohol fuels were pushed after the “Arab Oil Embargo”, way back in the ‘70’s. It was thought that if the US switched to fuels produced via farms (and we have lots of farmland) then we can buffer against global cartels in petroleum.
Anway, Trumpers never learn from history.
re: #233 Single-handed sailor
West Texas Intermediate crude has hit $71.00
Welcome back to Republican gas prices.
Too bad for all the conservatives that decided to buy gas-guzzling SUVs and oversized trucks.
Good thing I own a car that gets 50+ mpg.
Perhaps Ford will rethink their strategy of discontinuing cars.
re: #149 Kragar
In most places a warm handshake would suffice. pic.twitter.com/fXamMdYMI7
— Larry Lynam (@scopedbylarry) May 9, 2018
— WB Young 🍕🐀 (@FormerDirtDart) May 9, 2018
re: #235 freetoken
The Great Recession of 2008 was tightly coupled to liquid fuel prices.
It’s another one of those nasty systems of feedback and feedforward loops.
Because liquid fuels play such a central role in the American economy, there is an inescapable embrace of the price of liquid fuels and employment.
…
But because employment is tied to fuel production and consumption, less fuel production and consumption means less jobs in that sector of the economy.
And people in rural areas are much more dependent on automobiles as they have little or no access to public transportation. They will be impacted the most. And they money they spend on gasoline does not get spent on consuming other things and driving the economy.
re: #235 freetoken
Except the method we use to produce ethanol not only drives up food prices (by taking agricultural land out of production to produce the crops necessary for ethanol), it also requires vast amounts of petroleum products to produce.
Ethanol, at least the way we produce it now, does not save on petroleum.
re: #238 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Lots of gasohol in the upper Mississippi valley, though.
Gasoline prices tend to be highest on the coasts, near large cities.
re: #236 Anymouse 🌹
Yeah, bought gas the other day. I drove home, slow traffic slight uphill, got 10.7 mpg. Good thing I never have to drive far.
I guess we can look forward to Republicans engaging in another example of recycling by bringing out all the Bush-era talk about how the high gas prices are due not to their geopolitical cock-ups, but because gas taxes are “too high.”
re: #239 Anymouse 🌹
Ethanol, at least the way we produce it now, does not save on petroleum.
Lots of papers written on this, lots of debates.
The general sense that I get is that the return on investment, or EROEI, for American alcohol production, is around 1.
Proponents will still point out that the farming industry can use lower grade liquid fuels and solid fuels to produce alcohol, which is intended more for consumer vehicles and driving in dense areas.
Anyway, yes, the current method isn’t much of a gain at all, except for land owners in Iowa where gasohol demand for corn has forced every corner of every field to be put into production.
re: #240 freetoken
Lots of gasohol in the upper Mississippi valley, though.
Gasoline prices tend to be highest on the coasts, near large cities.
That’s something else: When there’s a drought (such as we had in 2012) and corn crops fail, the law still requires selling a certain percentage of the crop to ethanol producers.
Ranchers in this part of the country were going ballistic and demanding the repeal of that law. Nope. Conservatives support large businesses, not family farms and ranches.
Huge numbers of cattle were slaughtered across the nation as ranchers could no longer feed cattle due to extremely high feed prices in an unfair competition in the so-called free market when nearly half the feed was taken off the market for fuel production.
That did reduce the cost of beef for a while in the grocery store.
So now a bunch of them voted in a President who promised to gut NAFTA, even though they depend on that trade deal. “This time for sure!” as conservatives blindly pull the lever for the (R).
re: #243 freetoken
Anyway, yes, the current method isn’t much of a gain at all, except for land owners in Iowa where gasohol demand for corn has forced every corner of every field to be put into production.
Then it is no longer agriculture, at least not in the sense of producing foodstuffs, just as growing cotton is not: it is producing a raw material for an industrial process.
re: #245 Anymouse 🌹
Huge numbers of cattle were slaughtered across the nation as ranchers could no longer feed cattle due to extremely high feed prices in an unfair competition in the so-called free market when nearly half the feed was taken off the market for fuel production.
That did reduce the cost of beef for a while in the grocery store.
Modern agriculture has little to do with the free market.
re: #246 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
A great deal of agriculture has always been about producing things other than what is directly consumed by humans.
Textiles, for one example.
And the corn industry has found more industrial uses for corn than using it as a human food.
I was always amused by the fact that one of the highest gas prices in the area is the Shell gas station next to the Shell refinery. I asked the owner why it was so expensive. He said, “Delivery costs.”
re: #248 freetoken
A great deal of agriculture has always been about producing things other than what is directly consumed by humans.
Textiles, for one example.
And the corn industry has found more industrial uses for corn than using it as a human food.
and tobacco.
my point is that agriculture has become as much of another stage in the industrial process as anything else, even most the corn, wheat and soybeans that we eat is industrially processed before we consume it.
(OT, but I would only refer to those three crops in that order, I would never say wheat, corn and soybeans or soybeans, corn and wheat, etc…is there something like the “little old lady” “long tall Texan” rule at work here?)
re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Modern agriculture has little to do with the free market.
Agriculture gets a whole bunch of subsidies and tax breaks for sure.
The USDA notes steady increase in fossil fuel input in ethanol corn production since 1991. They also note steady increase in fertilizer. They do note that the BTU per pound has dropped some since 1991. (About 20% down the page is the chart)
re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
and tobacco.
my point is that agriculture has become as much of another stage in the industrial process as anything else, even most the corn, wheat and soybeans that we eat is industrially processed before we consume it.
(OT, but I would only refer to those three crops in that order, I would never say wheat, corn and soybeans or soybeans, corn and wheat, etc…is there something like the “little old lady” “long tall Texan” rule at work here?)
Maybe it’s a regional thing. I usually say them as wheat, soybeans, and corn. Must be my Michigan upbringing.
Getting back to my old soapbox of worldview collapse…
I have not heard, in my lifetime, a national leader, such as a President, willing to take on this problem.
The closest we got was Jimmy Carter, who tried to convince people that lifestyles matter and that change was needed.
He was reviled for this.
In great part, Ronald Reagan’s election was about America not wanting to hear what Jimmy Carter had to say.
40 years later and we’re still in the same position.
Old ways die hard. Cultures are passed down from one generation to another. Entire belief systems are passed on with little change, even unintentionally.
Ever notice how history shows, real history shows, are not very popular as TV productions?
Sure, on occasion, a very highly touted PBS series by Ken Burns gets some press, and maybe a couple of million viewers (adding up online viewers, etc.)
But that’s about it. Rarely do we find a successful continuing series about history.
Genealogy shows try, but they have to dole out the history in tiny drips or drabs so as not to turn off the audiences.
re: #251 Anymouse 🌹
The USDA notes steady increase in fossil fuel input in ethanol corn production since 1991. They also note steady increase in fertilizer. They do note that the BTU per pound has dropped some since 1991. (About 20% down the page is the chart)
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Page 2 of the summary seems to be saying the opposite of what you wrote here.
re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
and tobacco.
my point is that agriculture has become as much of another stage in the industrial process as anything else, even most the corn, wheat and soybeans that we eat is industrially processed before we consume it.
(OT, but I would only refer to those three crops in that order, I would never say wheat, corn and soybeans or soybeans, corn and wheat, etc…is there something like the “little old lady” “long tall Texan” rule at work here?)
I would argue that “corn, wheat and soybeans” just sounds right, from a metrical standpoint. But there really is a prescribed order for adjectives.
Citation: bbc.com
re: #253 freetoken
Getting back to my old soapbox of worldview collapse…
I have not heard, in my lifetime, a national leader, such as a President, willing to take on this problem.
The closest we got was Jimmy Carter, who tried to convince people that lifestyles matter and that change was needed.
He was reviled for this.
In great part, Ronald Reagan’s election was about America not wanting to hear what Jimmy Carter had to say.
40 years later and we’re still in the same position.
Old ways die hard. Cultures are passed down from one generation to another. Entire belief systems are passed on with little change, even unintentionally.
Ever notice how history shows, real history shows, are not very popular as TV productions?
Sure, on occasion, a very highly touted PBS series by Ken Burns gets some press, and maybe a couple of million viewers (adding up online viewers, etc.)
But that’s about it. Rarely do we find a successful continuing series about history.
Genealogy shows try, but they have to dole out the history in tiny drips or drabs so as not to turn off the audiences.
collapseofindustrialcivilization.com
And one of Ronald Reagan’s first action was to rip down the solar panels on top of the White House that Jimmy Carter had installed.
re: #256 Anymouse 🌹
collapseofindustrialcivilization.com
And one of Ronald Reagan’s first action was to rip down the solar panels on top of the White House that Jimmy Carter had installed.
I remember reading about that and really gnashing my teeth in anger. I think that Bush repeated the process after Clinton.
re: #256 Anymouse 🌹
Carter, as an engineer, understood the need for long-range planning, I believe. Small corrections done early can lead to huge payoffs in the future. But he failed in communicating that message successfully to the American industry and public. Reagan just stuck a fork in it. Similarly, Al Gore’s repeated warnings about global warming have only been accepted by an alarming minority of the population, because the energy industry and the Republican Party have succeeded in drowning out Gore with waves of bullshit.
And US car makers seem hell-bent on repeating the same mistakes they made decades ago, when gas was cheap and seemingly in infinite supply. They concentrated on gas-guzzlers and were unprepared for the inevitable “gas crisis” which allowed more fuel-efficient foreign makes to get a foothold in the USA.
re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So we threaten sanctions against other countries who ignore Iran sanctions and try to maintain the deal. How the hell is that supposed to play out especially in light of the fact that Russia and China will certainly not cave?
Europe will be torn, it will be interesting to see which side they fall on.
Are we really about to knock the US down to being a third-rate world power?
My guess is that countries / firms who want to continue doing business with Iran will either move their assets out of the US or create more elaborate screens. And I’m sure they’ll find some complicit American business to help them. The net result will be a blow to US from a business standpoint.
re: #258 wheat-dogg
Carter, as an engineer, understood the need for long-range planning, I believe. Small corrections done early can lead to huge payoffs in the future. But he failed in communicating that message successfully to the American industry and public. Reagan just stuck a fork in it. Similarly, Al Gore’s repeated warnings about global warming have only been accepted by an alarming minority of the population, because the energy industry and the Republican Party have succeeded in drowning out Gore with waves of bullshit.
And US car makers seem hell-bent on repeating the same mistakes they made decades ago, when gas was cheap and seemingly in infinite supply. They concentrated on gas-guzzlers and were unprepared for the inevitable “gas crisis” which allowed more fuel-efficient foreign makes to get a foothold in the USA.
Reagan, running for reëlection, ran on a plank of “Do you want a repeat of Jimmy Carter’s presidency?”
re: #260 Anymouse 🌹
Reagan, running for reëlection, ran on a plank of “Do you want a repeat of Jimmy Carter’s presidency?”
“Are you better off than you were four years ago?” was his clincher, and it really resounded with the US public.
And that sentiment is what led to Bush 1 losing to Clinton (“It’s the economy, stupid!”) and McCain losing to Obama after the 2008 collapse.
re: #260 Anymouse 🌹
Reagan, running for reëlection, ran on a plank of “Do you want a repeat of Jimmy Carter’s presidency?”
also kudos and upding for deft use of “ë” in “reëlection”.
re: #253 freetoken
Getting back to my old soapbox of worldview collapse…
I have not heard, in my lifetime, a national leader, such as a President, willing to take on this problem.
The closest we got was Jimmy Carter, who tried to convince people that lifestyles matter and that change was needed.
He was reviled for this.
In great part, Ronald Reagan’s election was about America not wanting to hear what Jimmy Carter had to say.
40 years later and we’re still in the same position.
Old ways die hard. Cultures are passed down from one generation to another. Entire belief systems are passed on with little change, even unintentionally.
Ever notice how history shows, real history shows, are not very popular as TV productions?
Sure, on occasion, a very highly touted PBS series by Ken Burns gets some press, and maybe a couple of million viewers (adding up online viewers, etc.)
But that’s about it. Rarely do we find a successful continuing series about history.
Genealogy shows try, but they have to dole out the history in tiny drips or drabs so as not to turn off the audiences.
Does a former Vice President count? I think a case can be made for Mr. Gore with regard to one extremely important piece of worldwide collapse.
I think our last President spoke and wrote about the long view frequently and got a lot of important legislation passed with it in mind too.
Humans are generally failing here overall though.
Agree on the history stuff. I miss what the History channel used to be.
It’s very difficult as we grow older to accept change.
You can ask why should someone listen to my ideas rather than another voice on internet. After all, maybe my wingnut relatives for all their hypocrisy really have a better take on life?
At some point one needs to embrace the idea that technical specialization really does give a society advantages. This means we have to rely on the opinions of others in fields about which one cannot know but a few passing words.
The struggle with the Trumpers is that they really have closed themselves off from this idea of modernity, of being part of a whole that relies on a vast network of expertise.
The ideology of self-reliance is at odds with modern life. It’s a hold-over from the frontier days, when a man really had to be able to do everything to live.
This is part of the root of hyper-individualism which is one of our problems. This is why Trump can be an anti-vaxxer and his followers will not hold him accountable for it.
Atavism is escapism. One can’t turn back the clock. All that will come of atavism is chaos and disaster.
Trump is a product of America. He is made flesh all the silly ideas one found on the (now late) Art Bell radio show of the 1990’s. Trump is the embodiment of all the dog whistling that Rush Limbaugh and his ilk have done for decades.
One reason I harp on creationism so much is that it is the tell-tell sign of a society unwilling to accept the modern world. Creationism is the most directly observable symptom of embracing a worldview at odds with modernity. More so than (space) alien invasions, anti-vaxxers, and even the Duggars.
Easily the most complicated and ambitious reporting/design/data/code/math project I’ve done in my entire life https://t.co/E68oNHFNRb
— Aaron Colby Williams (@aboutaaron) May 2, 2018
re: #263 JordanRules
Does a former Vice President count? I think a case can be made for Mr. Gore with regard to one extremely important piece of worldwide collapse.
Gore made the mistake of thinking he could put his political career behind him and become an elder statesman and spokesman for a greater cause, but instead had the unintended effect of turning climate change into an even more partisan issue than it had been before.
It is unfortunate that he led a lot of people to reject climate change outright just because it came out of the mouth of a Democrat.
Remember this ad?
re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
…, but instead had the unintended effect of turning climate change into an even more partisan issue than it had been before.
This, very much this.
In America, accepting expertise is now a partisan issue.
re: #264 freetoken
It’s very difficult as we grow older to accept change.
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One reason I harp on creationism so much is that it is the tell-tell sign of a society unwilling to accept the modern world. Creationism is the most directly observable symptom of embracing a worldview at odds with modernity. More so than (space) alien invasions, anti-vaxxers, and even the Duggars.
Even the Catholic Church tells us there is no inherent conflict between Evolution and Creation, only Biblical literalists have a problem with it.
And we are still sold on the notion that “environmental whackos” want us to go back to living in lean-tos and wiping our butts with tree leaves, when it is in fact our fossil fuels that are outdated: a lot of environmental technology is cutting-edge but cannot succeed against established and often subsidized sources of energy.
re: #265 JordanRules
paywalled…
re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
paywalled…
I was able to view in an incognito browser tab.
re: #270 JordanRules
I was able to view in an incognito browser tab.
Yup, one needs to escape the WaPo cookie.
I immediately balked at the embrace of using “race” as a classifier.
re: #267 freetoken
This, very much this.
In America, accepting expertise is now a partisan issue.
It’s a plank of the Tea-publican Party — that experts cannot be trusted, because reasons, and “good old common sense from the salt of the earth” can. So, they found the ideal candidate, a man who flies by the seat of his very ample pants and ignores the advice of even the experts he hired as his staff.
If the Dems cannot win at least one branch of Congress this fall, we are doomed.
re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Gore made the mistake of thinking he could put his political career behind him and become an elder statesman and spokesman for a greater cause, but instead had the unintended effect of turning climate change into an even more partisan issue than it had been before.
It is unfortunate that he led a lot of people to reject climate change outright just because it came out of the words of a Democrat.
Remember this ad?
Blast from the past!
I think they would’ve hardened against climate change with or without Gore. And I think he brought more folks into the fold and raised awareness tremendously.
re: #262 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
also kudos and upding for deft use of “ë” in “reëlection”.
Alt 0235 for the win!
A friend dragged me recently when I wrote to say I’d filed for reëlection, claiming that is an improper spelling.
He got back a two-page E-mail that basically boiled down to “no it’s not.”
re: #273 JordanRules
Blast from the past!
I think they would’ve hardened against climate change with or without Gore. And I think he brought more folks into the fold and raised awareness tremendously.
It was already a partisan issue, he just made it more so.
re: #275 Anymouse 🌹
Alt 0235 for the win!
A friend dragged me recently when I wrote to say I’d filed for reëlection, claiming that is an improper spelling.
He got back a two-page E-mail that basically boiled down to “no it’s not.”
you get a squiggly line underneath it, but it is an accepted method of separating the two letters and much more ëlëgant than “re-election”
totally mëtal
re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Gore made the mistake of thinking he could put his political career behind him and become an elder statesman and spokesman for a greater cause, but instead had the unintended effect of turning climate change into an even more partisan issue than it had been before.
It is unfortunate that he led a lot of people to reject climate change outright just because it came out of the words of a Democrat.
Remember this ad?
I’m afraid the link is bad. It only has the first part before the two soliduses.
re: #271 freetoken
Yup, one needs to escape the WaPo cookie.
I immediately balked at the embrace of using “race” as a classifier.
How else would they uncover the story of the data without race? It’s kinda important here.
Yes, *we* know technically what race is and is not, but it’s not practical or in practice right now.
re: #280 JordanRules
It’s just when I see “Hispanic” as a “race” my yellow flags go up.
Demographers are really guilty of sloppy descriptions. I don’t know why. Other social scientists seem more predisposed at being careful with their language.
I think “race” in our census data is a left-over from our very bigoted past.
This raises a difficult question, which you bring up, as to how then to properly describe groups of people who are somehow discriminated against.
How about “population group” as a self-identifier?
re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It was already a partisan issue, he just made it more so.
And I think that would’ve happened anyway. Absent Gore we would not have more sensible GOPers in this area. They want to keep their coal jobs, big trucks and still bow to big business.
re: #279 Anymouse 🌹
I’m afraid the link is bad. It only has the first part before the two soliduses.
re: #282 JordanRules
And I think that would’ve happened anyway. Absent Gore we would not have more sensible GOPers in this area. They want to keep their coal jobs, big trucks and still bow to big business.
On one hand, he did help popularize the issue, on the other, he led a lot of people to reject it outright without consideration.
re: #281 freetoken
It’s just when I see “Hispanic” as a “race” my yellow flags go up.
Demographers are really guilty of sloppy descriptions. I don’t know why. Other social scientists seem more predisposed at being careful with their language.
I think “race” in our census data is a left-over from our very bigoted past.
This raises a difficult question, which you bring up, as to how then to properly describe groups of people who are somehow discriminated against.
How about “population group” as a self-identifier?
They mention Hispanic as an ethnicity and using census data at the end of the page.
One day we’ll get there and “population group” sounds good to me.
re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
On one hand, he did help popularize the issue, on the other, he led a lot of people to reject it outright without consideration.
Obama is for climate change. Big business is not. They would have eventually been against it.
re: #277 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
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re: #286 JordanRules
Obama is for climate change. Big business is not. They would have eventually been against it.
Big business with an eye for long-range planning might have little problem with it, but the conflict was generally framed as “progress & self-determination” vs “alarmism & creeping world government”
I’ve watch about an hour of Fox “News” tonight. Not one mention of these payments to Cohen. It’s easy to see how people in America live two completely different information realities.
— Charles M. Blow (@CharlesMBlow) May 9, 2018
re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Big business with an eye for long-range planning might have little problem with it, but the conflict was generally framed as “progress & self-determination” vs “alarmism & creeping world government”
That framing is spot on and I think we can apply it pretty broadly.
re: #291 JordanRules
That framing is spot on and I think we can apply it pretty broadly.
anti-vax is a unique issue: here we have anti-big pharma, anti-western medicine types on the left aligning with anti-big government, anti-science types on the right.
put the two together and we wind up with a critical mass of stupidity that is already threatening lives
Be Best has a Trumpian tinge, a view of life as a competition divided into winners and losers. But the grammar crumbles around itself; here is a motto for careerist doges. https://t.co/GgE5vxcR79 pic.twitter.com/sJ9p1syBBB
— The New Yorker (@NewYorker) May 9, 2018
Donald Trump’s emptiness revealed itself over decades in the media glare. But Melania, a former model, has long embraced vacancy as an aesthetic. She has the creepy, objectified opacity of a doll, or a robot—a shimmer of the uncanny valley. Her willed passivity may be the strongest expression of her agency. She is an avatar of blankness, a mute queen. Standing behind a podium in the Rose Garden, her husband in the audience, Melania spoke slowly, with practiced inflections; she sounded like an actor reading from a script that she didn’t quite understand. When the words “Be Best” materialized on a screen above her head, their wobbly font and off-key grammar produced a sense of dissociation, as though we were all kids wondering where our parents had gone.
re: #293 JordanRules
It really is a scene one would expect in the Idiocracy.
re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
potiene?
We are about to have poutine now … my wife is firing up the air fryer.
re: #294 freetoken
It really is a scene one would expect in the Idiocracy.
If Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho runs against tRump in 2020, he’s got my vote!
re: #296 freetoken
A movie from a couple of years ago, Death Race 2050 , remake of an earlier film by the title “Death Race”, is very much about a future similar to The Idiocracy:
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Who knew these dystopias would start so soon?
The scariest one I have read to date is Gary Shteyngart’s 2010 Super Sad True Love Story that describes a post-literate America after the Great Currency Collapse: anyone who wants to live beyond the basics needs access to Yuan or Northern Euro-backed currency.
re: #259 Lupin
My guess is that countries / firms who want to continue doing business with Iran will either move their assets out of the US or create more elaborate screens. And I’m sure they’ll find some complicit American business to help them. The net result will be a blow to US from a business standpoint.
As an American living overseas on a permanent basis as a registered alien (Czech Republic), I stand ready to assist for the modest fee of $35,000 per annum.
re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Death Race 2050 is filled with socio-political commentary about the state of America:
re: #299 Dr Lizardo
As an American living overseas on a permanent basis as a registered alien (Czech Republic), I stand ready to assist for the modest fee of $35,000 per annum.
And I can help set up a shell corporation based in Germany…
Michael Cohen is as dumb as a stump. A fixer who keeps burner phones. And records his incriminating conversations, sparing the government the hassle of having to wiretap him. No one hires Michael Cohen for actual advice. He’s the action man. @MichaelAvenatti
— 🇺🇸🇭🇹 Only4RM 🇭🇹🇺🇸 (@Only4RM) May 9, 2018
Wow. Netanyahu wears the St George’s ribbon as he comes to May 9 Parade with Putin. Not even Serbia’s Vucic has one. (The ribbon, a symbol of Russian military glory, is also of late the symbol of Russian irredentism and is banned in Ukraine.) pic.twitter.com/OTNJDi3115
— Yaroslav Trofimov (@yarotrof) May 9, 2018
Already this morning:
•#Saudi intercepts 2 missiles over Riyadh
•Israel PM Netanyahu is in Russia
•8 Iranians reportedly killed in Syria strike (out of 15 deaths)
•Pompeo in North Korea negotiating release of 3 US detainees
•Yemen coalition close to retaking Hudeida port— Joyce Karam (@Joyce_Karam) May 9, 2018
re: #304 JordanRules
For some time now I’ve contended that the apocalypse will be documented live on twitter.
re: #305 freetoken
For some time now I’ve contended that the apocalypse will be documented live on twitter.
Can’t even argue against that. Way back in ‘09 when the Iranian Green Movement used Twitter to document everything in real time my mind was blown.
re: #308 JordanRules
Can’t even argue against that. Way back in ‘09 when the Iranian Green Movement used Twitter to document everything in real time my mind was blown.
That is a positive side. Flip side is that ever since people like Matt Drudge and Breitbart figured out that all they had to do was to float a story out there long enough and it would gain a life of its own, get picked up by the networks, for whom “trending on Twitter” became a valid news topic, and that those stories would then be treated as if they had any merit….
And lots of actors, foreign and domestic, picked up on that approach.
Jade Helm, anyone?
Digby’s Blog on Mueller rejecting Giuliani’s request to have his questions in writing for Trump or to limit the time he is interviewed:
Stunning that Mueller doesn’t think Trump can be trusted to answer the questions on the honor system. He’s as honest as the day is long —— in the arctic, on the winter solstice.
I’m sure they’re worried that the interview will become public. After all, that’s what the backstabbing Republicans would do. Indeed, they did. They told Clinton that his Grand Jury testimony had to be taped for a juror who was out sick —- and then Starr turned the ape over to the Republicans in congress and they released it to the public.
Giuliani says he needs to prep Trump and it will take time so he wants to wait until after the North Korean Summit because Trump is spending his time being briefed on that.
Sure he is.
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re: #179 KGxvi
Anyone out here watch the California governors debate?
I tried to watch it but just didn’t have it in me to pay attention. I did see though that the wingnut on stage (Travis Allen) had a not at all crazy answer to homelessness: enforce vagrancy and loitering laws. That’s right, he wants to criminalize homelessness. I’m sure that’ll solve problems
I also tried to see what people were saying on twitter but apparently a lot of people who live in California actually think it’s terrible here (we’ve got our problems, sure, but there are at least 47 less desirable states to live in)
There is ALOT of Russian activity surrounding California and the Russian desire to help split it up.
Logistics Problems (Goes to Juanita Jean’s: The World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon, guaranteed to light your fire this morning under the new Conservative Cruelty, more at the link):
Y’all, we have a logistics problem. The state of Louisiana, America, is having a very busy week.
BATON ROUGE — Louisiana’s Department of Health will begin sending nursing home eviction notices Thursday to more than 30,000 residents who could lose Medicaid under the budget passed by the state House of Representatives.
Best I can figure, they have no place to put 30,000 nursing home residents. The “vast majority” of nursing homes will close and “more than 25,000 people” working in health care will lose their jobs.
re: #309 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Same thing happened before Twitter existed. It happened on blogs and was distributed heavily outside of the blogosphere via email. It would get so bad that the term ‘nutpicking’ was even adopted/adapted to describe folks including media who would cherrypick comments to form their narratives.
And no matter how much information and testimony is provided about how these new tools help marginalized communities it’s just ignored…and that’s how marginalization works.
It’s also silly to just highlight Twitter. I like freetokens use of the phrase “modern communications” at #227. It correctly captures a lot more than Twitter or social media. At the bottom of damn near every media website in the U.S. is garbage content provided by these huge sketchy ad(?) networks. Russia targeted comments sections like Yahoo for their troll ops long before social media too.
Ted Cruz falsely says Beto O’Rourke once resolved to legalize all narcotics (Houston Chronicle)
When fact checked on this by PolitiFact, Cruz simply said they had a liberal bias.
U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, seeking a second term representing Texas, declared that his Democratic challenger from El Paso made a “radical” move to legalize all narcotics.
The Houston Republican said in his May 1, 2018, tweet: “With opioids ravaging so many American communities, Congressman Beto O’Rourke’s radical resolution to legalize all narcotics—including heroin and other deadly opioids—is looking worse and worse all the time.”
David Wysong of O’Rourke’s campaign brought Cruz’s claim to our attention. By email, Wysong noted that in 2012, we rated Half True a claim that O’Rourke favored legalizing drugs across the board. O’Rourke, then a member of the El Paso City Council, favored legalizing marijuana, we confirmed, but had called only for debate about legalizing narcotics.
Cruz points out Daily Caller story
Cruz’s tweet pointed to a May 1, 2018, story posted by the conservative Daily Caller headlined “Remember That One Time Beto O’Rourke Called for Legalizing All Narcotics.”
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re: #314 jeffreyw
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I love hashbrowns so much!! That’s damn impressive. Looks delicious and magazine cover ready!
re: #81 MsJ
The Hill has no editors.
WTF does that even mean?
i only understand it because I’ve taught freshman comp for 25 years. i just fill in the words and sigh resignedly.
This hasn’t gotten enough attention. The chief of staff of the Israeli Defense Forces says the Iran deal was working. https://t.co/Gp49WVoGpv
— Max Boot (@MaxBoot) May 9, 2018
re: #315 JordanRules
Same thing happened before Twitter existed. It happened on blogs and was distributed heavily outside of the blogosphere via email. It would get so bad that the term ‘nutpicking’ was even adopted/adapted to describe folks including media who would cherrypick comments to form their narratives.
And no matter how much information and testimony is provided about how these new tools help marginalized communities it’s just ignored…and that’s how marginalization works.
It’s also silly to just highlight Twitter. I like freetokens use of the phrase “modern communications” at #227. It correctly captures a lot more than Twitter or social media. At the bottom of damn near every media website in the U.S. is garbage content provided by these huge sketchy ad(?) networks. Russia targeted comments sections like Yahoo for their troll ops long before social media too.
There is a difference.
Some crank pouring out Mimeographed newsletters, a dipwad running a pirate shortwave radio station, or a fringe group with a limited-circulation newsletter only reached a small number of like-minded cranks.
Social media such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube &c allows you to have worldwide coverage for your crankery instantly. The lack of moderation by those platforms (because it cuts into profits to remove cranks) makes it far worse.
re: #320 Anymouse 🌹
There is a difference.
Some crank pouring out Mimeographed newsletters, a dipwad running a pirate shortwave radio station, or a fringe group with a limited-circulation newsletter only reached a small number of like-minded cranks.
Social media such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube &c allows you to have worldwide coverage for your crankery instantly. The lack of moderation by those platforms (because it cuts into profits to remove cranks) makes it far worse.
Where are the things that came after all the old tech you mentioned and before the social media?
Websites, chatrooms, blogs, email blasts and newsletters etc had the same reach.
It’s not that we don’t trust K9 Nemo but he’s constantly bringing in dog toys into the Sheriffs Office. If that behavior will stop so will the dog frisks. #DogFrisks101 @K9Nemo pic.twitter.com/MDgpEMZPwT
— Williamson County Sheriff (WilCo) Texas (@SheriffChody) May 8, 2018
His safe word is “ruff”, which can lead to some confusion…
— WB Young 🍕🐀 (@FormerDirtDart) May 9, 2018
re: #230 Single-handed sailor
The Korea Times, like pretty much all the English media in Korea, is hot garbage. However, that story appears to be AFP.
If you want to know what Koreans are thinking, much better sources are the English translations for the Chosun Ilbo (conservative) or the Hankyoreh (liberal). AskaKorean (very left Korean-American) is very good too.
So, does Nemo have any 3%er, or “Moron Labia” tats like some of #Wilco deputies?
— 🦈🦈Dave’s Not Believing this Crap🦈🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) May 9, 2018
re: #229 freetoken
The commenters to this Facebook post by Fox:
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… just can’t get over Hillary.
The comments at fox news itself are brutal. I’m sure fox will turn them off soon.
One year ago today pic.twitter.com/4v7cirPKk4
— Marlow Stern (@MarlowNYC) May 9, 2018
re: #317 JordanRules
I love hashbrowns so much!! That’s damn impressive. Looks delicious and magazine cover ready!
Thanks! My flip-fu is weak, though, I had to use a spatula.
What?!??
Ehud Barak, the former Israeli prime minister and defense minister, tells me there’s a chance Iran could be scared into good behavior by fear that Trump will launch an attack on their nuclear facilities: https://t.co/K2Clk58lU9
— Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) May 9, 2018
re: #321 JordanRules
Where are the things that came after all the old tech you mentioned and before the social media?
Websites, chatrooms, blogs, email blasts and newsletters etc had the same reach.
Actually, no. Before the explosion of the World Wide Web, chatrooms, blogs, &c actually had a much smaller reach. Internet service was widely unavailable, computers with any significant power were exceptionally expensive (therefore E-mail blasts were also rather uncommon).
Outside of Commodore’s Quantum Link (which became AOL), CompuServe had the largest marketshare, running on PDP-8s, 10s, and 11s. At it’s peak, it had 380,000 subscribers in the USA.
re: #327 jeffreyw
Thanks! My flip-fu is weak, though, I had to use a spatula.
It’s the cast iron…… It’s everything with fried chicken and taters of all dimensions.
Omg I literally had no idea you were still doin’ your thing!!! How have you been? How’s the tea party going? Super strong I bet
— Cameron Kasky (@cameron_kasky) May 9, 2018
Perfection!
re: #326 JordanRules
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— Marlow Stern (@MarlowNYC) May 9, 2018
On what planet was that only one year ago?
Damn…..
Another family-values compassionate conservative (tm) Republican office holder in trouble:
Alabama Sheriff Caught In Web Of Criminal Probes Asks For ‘Prayers’ (Goes to Talking Points Memo, more at the link):
Like several other Alabama sheriffs, Morgan County’s Ana Franklin has been accused of taking advantage of an archaic state law to pocket taxpayer funds set aside to feed inmates.
But the allegations against the county’s top law enforcement officer go much further.
The venture in which Franklin invested the inmate food funds happened to be a used-car lot run by an ex-felon. Franklin has failed to account for the unaudited, tax-exempt money she raised running an annual local rodeo, which earned about $20,000 each year — funds she promised went to charities and law enforcement. Most troublingly, Franklin is accused of enlisting her office to help bring charges against two people who sought to expose her.
A Morgan County Circuit judge ruled last week that Franklin and one of her deputies engaged in “criminal actions” by misleading the court in seeking a warrant to raid the office of a local blogger who has meticulously tracked Franklin’s activities.
We have a lot of evidence trump is really not a real estate negotiating master. My proof? he let’s President Obama live in his own head, rent free.
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) May 9, 2018
re: #321 JordanRules
Where are the things that came after all the old tech you mentioned and before the social media?
Websites, chatrooms, blogs, email blasts and newsletters etc had the same reach.
I was using instant messager to communicate with people in middle school and that was the late 90’s/early 00’s. We have to realize that new technology always will inevitably be abused. It’s always been this way unfortunately. The problem with the tech and platforms isn’t the platforms themselves but how they’re used. Up and coming bands use YouTube with success for the same reason InfoWars does, old friends and family are able to stay connected for the same reason that the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville was organized, etc. The tech and platforms are here and they’re not leaving. And here we are at various corners of the globe discussing this. I think that’s a good thing. It sucks that it can be abused but that’s always been true.
re: #329 Anymouse 🌹
Actually, no. Before the explosion of the World Wide Web, chatrooms, blogs, &c actually had a much smaller reach. Internet service was widely unavailable, computers with any significant power were exceptionally expensive (therefore E-mail blasts were also rather uncommon).
Outside of Commodore’s Quantum Link (which became AOL), CompuServe had the largest marketshare, running on PDP-8s, 10s, and 11s. At it’s peak, it had 380,000 subscribers in the USA.
I was an early CompuServe subscriber back in the 1980s. Since I was using a C-64 also, I may have a QLink sub, too. I remember how novel it all seemed, getting messages from far away instantaneously (almost, given connection speeds back then).
re: #334 Unshaken Defiance
I think it’s a time share, because Hillary lives in there, too, from time to time.
re: #331 JordanRules
Perfection!
Who’s he responding to?
Unfortunately the Tea Party won, it’s goon is in the WH and occupying way too many seats in Congress and in State houses across the country.
re: #335 HappyWarrior
The problem with the tech and platforms isn’t the platforms themselves but how they’re used.
Yup! And that’s really what my point has been over and over.
re: #81 MsJ
The Hill has no editors.
WTF does that even mean?
Harris ran against him two years ago and nearly [beat] him then.
re: #340 JordanRules
Yup! And that’s really what my point has been over and over.
Yep i was agreeing with you and backing you up there. They really are wonderful tools. I mean that. I just got off responding to something my cousin I never would have met if not for FB. It’s also how I’ve been able to see my niece grow the past 3 years she, my brother, and SiL have lived in Nevada.
re: #339 Sir John Barron
Who’s he responding to?
Unfortunately the Tea Party won, it’s goon is in the WH and occupying way too many seats in Congress and in State houses across the country.
Well, to qualify, the Tea Party “won” in the sense that the anti-liberal, anti-pluralistic values they represented found root in many of today’s Republicans.
re: #339 Sir John Barron
Who’s he responding to?
Unfortunately the Tea Party won, it’s goon is in the WH and occupying way too many seats in Congress and in State houses across the country.
From that kid’s POV, the Tea Party won a pyrrhic victory and are another group that is going to be defeated. Works for me.
re: #329 Anymouse 🌹
Actually, no. Before the explosion of the World Wide Web, chatrooms, blogs, &c actually had a much smaller reach. Internet service was widely unavailable, computers with any significant power were exceptionally expensive (therefore E-mail blasts were also rather uncommon).
Outside of Commodore’s Quantum Link (which became AOL), CompuServe had the largest marketshare, running on PDP-8s, 10s, and 11s. At it’s peak, it had 380,000 subscribers in the USA.
So the technology was there to reach the same amount of folks but access wasn’t yet. Fair enough and I don’t think that degrades my points too much since I guess you could argue that access is the problem which is absurd too.
re: #342 HappyWarrior
Yep i was agreeing with you and backing you up there. They really are wonderful tools. I mean that. I just got off responding to something my cousin I never would have met if not for FB. It’s also how I’ve been able to see my niece grow the past 3 years she, my brother, and SiL have lived in Nevada.
Oh I know you were. My bad if my tone came off aggy.
I saw a woman find her mother a a life saving organ donor on Twitter. Watched the whole thing play out from her initial plea to post surgery. It was amazing.
re: #330 Dave In Austin
It’s the cast iron…… It’s everything with fried chicken and taters of all dimensions.
It’s not..
>hangs head<
cast iron.
I stumbled on a great Japanese manga called “Steves” about Jobs and Waz and the characters from that time.
re: #346 JordanRules
Oh I know you were. My bad if my tone came off aggy.
I saw a woman find her mother a a life saving organ donor on Twitter. Watched the whole thing play out from her initial plea to post surgery. It was amazing.
All good but yeah things like that show that the platforms and tools themselves are good or even neutral but it’s how we use them. We’re using the same means that the Stormfront assholes use to communicate with each other. Doesn’t mean that the tech is the issue. It means the Stormfront assholes are the issue. Tech is always going to change whether that was inventing the telephone nearly a century and a half ago or SMS more recently, it’s up to us as human beings to use it constructively. I’m trying to think of a good 20th century analogy here. Oh? Perhaps how the radio brought comfort to millions of people around the world during the global depression but how Hitler used it for propaganda. Same thing with cinema and how Leni Riefendstahl used it for propaganda.
re: #339 Sir John Barron
Who’s he responding to?
Unfortunately the Tea Party won, it’s goon is in the WH and occupying way too many seats in Congress and in State houses across the country.
He’s responding to Palin and her Tea Party wing is dead. The larger Tea Party descendent movement has been getting waxed in most elections since November 2016. I think he’s pretty spot on in his implication, it’s not going well for them.
So the criminally-negligent mine owner who owns a palatial estate in Nevada failed to win the WV Senate GOP primary.
What’s this country coming to?
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re: #349 HappyWarrior
I’m trying to think of a good 20th century analogy here. Oh? Perhaps how the radio brought comfort to millions of people around the world during the global depression but how Hitler used it for propaganda. Same thing with cinema and how Leni Riefendstahl used it for propaganda.
Great examples!
re: #336 wheat-dogg
I was an early CompuServe subscriber back in the 1980s. Since I was using a C-64 also, I may have a QLink sub, too. I remember how novel it all seemed, getting messages from far away instantaneously (almost, given connection speeds back then).
I also ran my BBS on my C-64, “networked” (that is, sending a package of messages) from Virginia Beach to another BBS in Richmond so they could be posted there and vice versa.
1200 baud seems so slow nowadays, but then it was like greased lighting.
re: #351 JordanRules
He’s responding to Palin and her Tea Party wing is dead. The larger Tea Party descendent movement has been getting waxed in most elections since November 2016. I think he’s pretty spot on in his implication, it’s not going well for them.
Oh, Half-Gov, Palin. What’s she doing with herself these days?
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re: #353 JordanRules
Great examples!
Thanks. It was hard for me to think of a past example. Also, radio and how Father Coughlin abused it in the 30’s while many were also listening to radio dramas, sports games and matches, etc.
re: #318 steve_davis
i only understand it because I’ve taught freshman comp for 25 years. i just fill in the words and sigh resignedly.
If you consider The Hill a freshman level organization, it’s all good.
re: #355 Anymouse 🌹
I also ran my BBS on my C-64, “networked” (that is, sending a package of messages) from Virginia Beach to another BBS in Richmond so they could be posted there and vice versa.
1200 baud seems so slow nowadays, but then it was like greased lighting.
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Well pop up my douchebag collar, that’s old school looking as hell.
re: #320 Anymouse 🌹
There is a difference.
Some crank pouring out Mimeographed newsletters, a dipwad running a pirate shortwave radio station, or a fringe group with a limited-circulation newsletter only reached a small number of like-minded cranks.
Social media such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube &c allows you to have worldwide coverage for your crankery instantly. The lack of moderation by those platforms (because it cuts into profits to remove cranks) makes it far worse.
When “trending on Twitter” became a regular news item, I began to despair for the future of the Republic.
i hope this pisses transphobes off pic.twitter.com/3JEcJcZjpo
— WELCM TO MCDAWNULS YOU WANNA PHUCKING BEESECHURGER (@BLASTPROCESSlNG) May 7, 2018
Anti-Gun Parkland Activist Finally Comes to His Senses After School’s Cover-Up on Shooter Comes Out https://t.co/lhr6mLff1P
— Sarah Palin (@SarahPalinUSA) May 9, 2018
Palin’s son plead guilty to possessing a firearm while intoxicated after beating his girlfriend and threatening her with an AR-15. Then he beat his father and threatened to shoot him. He is still legally allowed to own guns. But do lecture us more about responsible gun ownership. https://t.co/jzQEa6dN4f
— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) May 9, 2018
re: #359 HappyWarrior
Well pop up my douchebag collar, that’s old school looking as hell.
Quantum Link didn’t actually serve what we would now consider a Webpage.
Upon selecting a command from the keyboard, Qlink would send a command back to your computer to load a page to your monitor from your 5 1/4” floppy drive.
The only part of Qlink which was actually real time was “People Connection” (chatrooms) for which you were charged a fee by the minute.
The old school part comes from C-64s being 8-bit computers. If you ran Qlink software on a C-128, it would run as a C-64.
re: #359 HappyWarrior
Well pop up my douchebag collar, that’s old school looking as hell.
Even after displays became good enough for normal lettering, a lot of people refused to give up that dot-matrix-looking shit because regular type didn’t look “high-tech” enough.
re: #363 Anymouse 🌹
Quantum Link didn’t actually serve what we would now consider a Webpage.
Upon selecting a command from the keyboard, Qlink would send a command back to your computer to load a page to your monitor from your 5 1/4” floppy drive.
The only part of Qlink which was actually real time was “People Connection” (chatrooms) for which you were charged a fee by the minute.
The old school part comes from C-64s being 8-bit computers. If you ran Qlink software on a C-128, it would run as a C-64.
Yeah and I’m glad that’s changed. The computer became for families when I was growing up in the 90’s what the TV became for my parents’ generation or radio for grandparents.
re: #362 JordanRules
WTF is Palin actually tweeting about? I refuse to click on that link.
re: #364 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Even after displays became good enough for normal lettering, a lot of people refused to give up that dot-matrix-looking shit because regular type didn’t look “high-tech” enough.
I can remember the old word processor they gave me as part of my IEP due to my handwriting issues. I hated it because it was hard to organize the notes. When I went to college, laptops were more widespread and accessible to the public by then and I was able to take much, much better notes. As a result despite having access to alcohol in college that I didn’t in HS, I was a considerably better college student than HS student.
re: #362 JordanRules
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Shannon’s absolutely right. Palin’s the last person that should be lecturing anyone on this issue.
Just in case anyone has any bit of pity for her…
Melania Trump blames ‘opposition’ for news a ‘Be Best’ pamphlet was recycled from earlier programs https://t.co/nUczPF10Wr
— Daily Kos (@dailykos) May 9, 2018
Where would she ever have learned to be best at blaming others for her own embarrassing blunders? https://t.co/VUaDMGTceu
— andy lassner (@andylassner) May 9, 2018
re: #367 Weaselone
WTF is Palin actually tweeting about? I refuse to click on that link.
Superintendent lying about some things and most of the students agree about it and the criticism of him so she’s saying Casky finally is on the right side. It’s stupid, like her.
re: #368 HappyWarrior
I can remember the old word processor they gave me as part of my IEP due to my handwriting issues. I hated it because it was hard to organize the notes. When I went to college, laptops were more widespread and accessible to the public by then and I was able to take much, much better notes. As a result despite having access to alcohol in college that I didn’t in HS, I was a considerably better college student than HS student.
Oh, those old dedicated word processors? God, they were a pain in the ass! I was actually a late adopter on real computers, because I figured it would be more of the same, only worse.
re: #370 MsJ
Just in case anyone has any bit of pity for her…
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re: #350 Teukka
Warning. Do not open if pollen-allergic
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Come to my house on a clear windy day in January…….
re: #372 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Oh, those old dedicated word processors? God, they were a pain in the ass! I was actually a late adopter on real computers, because I figured it would be more of the same, only worse.
Yeah the Alpha Smart. I mean don’t get me wrong. It was better than a typewriter would have been but it was still a pain.
re: #371 JordanRules
Superintendent lying about some things and most of the students agree about it and the criticism of him so she’s saying Casky finally is on the right side. It’s stupid, like her.
So they didn’t change their stance on guns at all. God Palin is a desperately stupid person.
re: #370 MsJ
Melania Trump blames ‘opposition’ for news a ‘Be Best’ pamphlet was recycled from earlier programs
In a nutshell, she is upset with reporters who are doing more than being stenographers…
Reminded me again of an old Soviet-era joke about a fellow who got ten years for calling Chairman Brezhnev an idiot: one year for insulting Soviet authorities and nine years for revealing a state secret.
re: #376 HappyWarrior
So they didn’t change their stance on guns at all. God Palin is a desperately stupid person.
Nope they didn’t. She’s just being messy.
re: #378 JordanRules
Nope they didn’t. She’s just being messy.
and intellectually dishonest as always.
re: #365 HappyWarrior
Yeah and I’m glad that’s changed. The computer became for families when I was growing up in the 90’s what the TV became for my parents’ generation or radio for grandparents.
Now I feel old. And dammit, I have another birthday on the last day of the month.
Well, the alternative to growing old is dying young.
re: #365 HappyWarrior
Yeah and I’m glad that’s changed. The computer became for families when I was growing up in the 90’s what the TV became for my parents’ generation or radio for grandparents.
I have to explain to my kids that there was a time when telephone, television, recording device, music player and camera were all separate devices that could not intercommunicate directly.
re: #380 Anymouse 🌹
Now I feel old. And dammit, I have another birthday on the last day of the month.
Well, the alternative to growing old is dying young.
I already outlived my dad, he died of a heart attack at age 52.
re: #371 JordanRules
Superintendent lying about some things and most of the students agree about it and the criticism of him so she’s saying Casky finally is on the right side. It’s stupid, like her.
Ah, thanks.
re: #375 HappyWarrior
Yeah the Alpha Smart. I mean don’t get me wrong. It was better than a typewriter would have been but it was still a pain.
<—- looks at 1914 Royal office typewriter which he regularly uses for village business and writing letters.
I found Word Perfect for the C-64 to be a pain, so I used either a pen or a typewriter much more often. All I’ve seen with “improvements” such as Microsoft Word is a piling on of features I don’t use.
I can fold a normal piece of paper as a letter to fit properly in a #4 envelope as well. Phhhhht.
Must see: How Russian oligarchs like Viktor Vekselberg (in Avenatti’s report) are connected to Trump and each other. Amazing work by @dallasnews >>> pic.twitter.com/cVGjMNbMXQ
— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) May 8, 2018
re: #381 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have to explain to my kids that there was a time when telephone, television, recording device, music player and camera were all separate devices that could not intercommunicate directly.
Send them to my house, where those are still the norm (but we don’t have a television).
Big news at Chez Tumbleweed: My wife bought a digital FM radio to try to actually get something here besides Christian hate radio and conservaliars on AM.
We can get three stations! An FM Christian hate radio station from the county seat, NPR from Alliance (sixty miles), and a country station (eighty miles).
I do better with my ham radio’s shortwave broadcast bands.
re: #345 JordanRules
So the technology was there to reach the same amount of folks but access wasn’t yet. Fair enough and I don’t think that degrades my points too much since I guess you could argue that access is the problem which is absurd too.
Morning!
I think ‘mouse may have missed out on about ten years in your debate. Most people use 1996 as the big boom in the internet where computers became inexpensive enough for everyone to start getting on the ‘net. By then software for forums became more popular and easy to use. That allowed all kinds of specialty forums which started to give people online centers to discuss their favorite pastimes, hobbies, politics, etc.
I know that because I was working in auto racing and was reading quite a few racing forums. That was also the year the American openwheel (Indy car racing) racing had a split. That split then carried over in forums and became an us versus them back and forth.
Sure that was racing, but that also demonstrated how things could become adversarial. You had people doing Photoshops to influence and mock others, flame wars, trolls, etc.
I am pretty sure all that was also going on political forums. Matt Drudge had already started The Drudge Report. By 1997 he had already gotten up near 100,000 subscribers.
Then along came social media with MySpace in 2004, with Facebook also starting. Twitter I think was late 2007 or so. A lot of that got an extra boost with the first ‘smartphones’ in the mid 2000s like the first Blackberries. By 2007 the first touch screen smartphones with apps started to hit the market.
Anyway…1996 to 2007 a lot of what we are going through today had started and was building.
Carry on! Just wanted to toss in that little bit of history.
re: #386 Anymouse 🌹
Send them to my house, where those are still the norm (but we don’t have a television).
Big news at Chez Tumbleweed: My wife bought a digital FM radio to try to actually get something here besides Christian hate radio and conservaliars on AM.
We can get three stations! An FM Christian hate radio station from the county seat, NPR from Alliance (sixty miles), and a country station (eighty miles).
I do better with my ham radio’s shortwave broadcast bands.
Internet radio
Ric: my advice, after a long ambassadorial career: explain your own country’s policies, and lobby the host country - but never tell the host country what to do, if you want to stay out of trouble. Germans are eager to listen, but they will resent instructions.
— Wolfgang Ischinger (@ischinger) May 9, 2018
One of Germany’s top diplomats tutors the new US Ambassador to Germany https://t.co/ySOHk3Q1hV
— Julianne Smith (@Julie_C_Smith) May 9, 2018
re: #387 ObserverArt
Morning!
I think ‘mouse may have missed out on about ten years in your debate. Most people use 1996 as the big boom in the internet where computers became inexpensive enough for everyone to start getting on the ‘net. By then software for forums became more popular and easy to use. That allowed all kinds of specialty forums which started to give people online centers to discuss their favorite pastimes, hobbies, politics, etc.
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Anyway…1996 to 2007 a lot of what we are going through today had started and was building.
Carry on! Just wanted to toss that little bit of history.
Thanks. 1996-2007 maps precisely to my homeless period, when computer access was a bit problematic to me.
Netanyahu attends Victory Day Parade as Putin’s guest.
Watches the same S-400 missiles on display that are being given to Syria’s Assad .. pic.twitter.com/AspjC5Sa24— Olga Lautman (@olgaNYC1211) May 9, 2018
Bibi is probably checking out the house he will be forced to flee to in order to avoid jail.
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These payments were also made around the time Net Neutrality was repealed.
It’ll be more interesting to see what sort of disbursements Cohen’s LLC has made…— Pé Resists (@4everNeverTrump) May 8, 2018
re: #381 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have to explain to my kids that there was a time when telephone, television, recording device, music player and camera were all separate devices that could not intercommunicate directly.
Yep. I can remember those days too.
re: #389 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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So, while Wolfgang’s advice is certainly on-point (and, unlike our idiot’s comments, diplomatic) - I have to wonder what the chances are that German companies actually will “wind down” any business in Iran?
What’s the leverage here? Starting a trade war with European countries if they don’t go along with The Donald’s Iran obsession?
re: #391 Ace-o-aces
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Bibi is probably checking out the house he will be forced to flee to in order to avoid jail.
I’m despising Bibi more and more.
re: #390 Anymouse 🌹
Thanks. 1996-2007 maps precisely to my homeless period, when computer access was a bit problematic to me.
You know, I was sort of figuring all that might have been a factor based on your previous comments.
Another thing that I think exploded politics was Fox News started about the same time as the internet really breaking out. Again 1996.
Surely a deadly combination as the two mediums fueled on each other.
And guess what family still suffers all that.
The Clintons.
re: #394 Jay C
So, while Wolfgang’s advice is certainly on-point (and, unlike our idiot’s comments, diplomatic) - I have to wonder what the chances are that German companies actually will “wind down” any business in Iran?
What’s the leverage here? Starting a trade war with European countries if they don’t go along with The Donald’s Iran obsession?
From what I’ve seen, yes. Trump stated yesterday that if the other countries didn’t go along with the US, they would start feeling sanctions from US banks.
re: #384 Anymouse 🌹
<—- looks at 1914 Royal office typewriter which he regularly uses for village business and writing letters.
I found Word Perfect for the C-64 to be a pain, so I used either a pen or a typewriter much more often. All I’ve seen with “improvements” such as Microsoft Word is a piling on of features I don’t use.
I can fold a normal piece of paper as a letter to fit properly in a #4 envelope as well. Phhhhht.
I have handwriting as bad as my niece so pen is out of the question. MSWord is essential for firm operations too.
Touchy touchy…
Cohen’s attorney, to me, re: Columbus Nova-Cohen transactions: “This was not a payment.”
He followed up in an email, writing, “Don’t contact me again. Ever.” https://t.co/feIhydpLxI— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) May 8, 2018
re: #396 MsJ
Jesus Fucking Christ.
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Never heard of Hoover have you Donald? Ironic since you, him, & Kevin McAlister stayed at the same hotel together but you probably thought he was the vacuum guy too. And yeah holy shit, he’s demented. He’s owed the same respect he shows the office which is notta a damn.
re: #394 Jay C
So, while Wolfgang’s advice is certainly on-point (and, unlike our idiot’s comments, diplomatic) - I have to wonder what the chances are that German companies actually will “wind down” any business in Iran?
What’s the leverage here? Starting a trade war with European countries if they don’t go along with The Donald’s Iran obsession?
That is what we are heading for: they have already threatened economic sanctions against people who continue to trade with Iran. We know that Russia and China will continue, and if Europe recognizes its own long-term interests, they will not deal with Trump.
Besides, why should they trust him to keep his word?
I do not want to push this analogy too far, but it would be like trusting Hitler after Munich…
re: #402 MsJ
Touchy touchy…
Well, that certainly makes me think there’s nothing to see here, let’s move along, yada yada yada.
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re: #400 MsJ
Denald I see now but he does tweet like this.
No tweets this morning?
Hm.
Beautiful day here in New York. I wanna play hooky but can’t. Boo.
re: #402 MsJ
Touchy touchy…
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re: #407 makeitstop
No tweets this morning?
Hm.
Beautiful day here in New York. I wanna play hooky but can’t. Boo.
Maybe Fox&Friends isn’t singing his praises.
Twitter and social media took off about the time that print media went into decline, and they quickly figured out that they could save on staff by just getting some young kid to monitor the Internet for them.
And then people like Drudge, Breitbart and a lot of Russians figured out how to start floating things on the Internet that would get them picked up as legitimate news items.
And that is when a serious downward spiral began.
re: #407 makeitstop
No tweets this morning?
Hm.
Beautiful day here in New York. I wanna play hooky but can’t. Boo.
You mean he hasn’t strutted around yet making a big thing out of the three prisoners being released to Pompeo?
It will be soon.
By the way, I have not seen that mentioned yet here? Maybe I missed it. I am not looking forward to the news on that. It’s probably another pivot point in this week’s infrastructure week.
re: #398 Belafon
From what I’ve seen, yes. Trump stated yesterday that if the other countries didn’t go along with the US, they would start feeling sanctions from US banks.
I’m sure that US banks will love to lose all that business as foreign companies move their cash and business to avoid sanctions.
re: #412 Weaselone
I’m sure that US banks will love to lose all that business as foreign companies move their cash and business to avoid sanctions.
Does he really think we have enough clout and leverage to take on the whole world in a trade war?
re: #407 makeitstop
No tweets this morning?
Hm.
Beautiful day here in New York. I wanna play hooky but can’t. Boo.
Lots of tweets unfortunately.
Candace Owens of Turning Point USA is having a big impact on politics in our Country. She represents an ever expanding group of very smart “thinkers,” and it is wonderful to watch and hear the dialogue going on…so good for our Country!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 9, 2018
Congratulations to Mike Dewine on his big win in the Great State of Ohio. He will be a great Governor with a heavy focus on HealthCare and Jobs. His Socialist opponent in November should not do well, a big failure in last job!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 9, 2018
I am pleased to inform you that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is in the air and on his way back from North Korea with the 3 wonderful gentlemen that everyone is looking so forward to meeting. They seem to be in good health. Also, good meeting with Kim Jong Un. Date & Place set.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 9, 2018
Secretary Pompeo and his “guests” will be landing at Andrews Air Force Base at 2:00 A.M. in the morning. I will be there to greet them. Very exciting!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 9, 2018
The Fake News is working overtime. Just reported that, despite the tremendous success we are having with the economy & all things else, 91% of the Network News about me is negative (Fake). Why do we work so hard in working with the media when it is corrupt? Take away credentials?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 9, 2018
The Republican Party had a great night. Tremendous voter energy and excitement, and all candidates are those who have a great chance of winning in November. The Economy is sooo strong, and with Nancy Pelosi wanting to end the big Tax Cuts and Raise Taxes, why wouldn’t we win?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 9, 2018
re: #404 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I do not want to push this analogy too far, but it would be like trusting Hitler after Munich…
Actually, the (future) Allies DID trust Hitler after Munich: it wasn’t until after he had invaded/occupied/dismantled Czechoslovakia in May of 1939, that they finally realized that that trust had been misplaced, to put it mildly.
More precisely, they realized that the anti-German/ anti-Nazi critics had been right after all: but, in the way these things usually work out, said critics - with the possible exception of Churchill - were typically ignored. Especially after the war started….
re: #414 JordanRules
Lots of tweets unfortunately.
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re: #413 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Does he really think
we have enough clout and leverage to take on the whole world in a trade war?
no.
re: #414 JordanRules
Lots of tweets unfortunately.
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Oh so, Mike DeWine won the Ohio Governor seat already.
Piss off Donny. Ohio Democrats will be working hard to try to stop that.
Same goes for helping Sherrod Brown keep his Senate seat.
If you believe, as I do, the Broidy $1.6m Playboy playmate payment which involved an abortion, was actually Trump’s….
And the RNC is paying Trump’s legal bills…..
Did poor unknowing evangelicals PAY FOR DONALD TRUMP’S ABORTION?— CONSERVATISM-IN-EXILE (@_political_p) May 8, 2018
re: #413 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Does he really think we have enough clout and leverage to take on the whole world in a trade war?
Disgusting/horrifyingly, probably yes.
After all, Trump HAS stated that trade wars are “easy to win”, and he wouldn’t lie to us, right?
re: #404 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
That is what we are heading for: they have already threatened economic sanctions against people who continue to trade with Iran. We know that Russia and China will continue, and if Europe recognizes its own long-term interests, they will not deal with Trump.
Besides, why should they trust him to keep his word?
I do not want to push this analogy too far, but it would be like trusting Hitler after Munich…
If I were a European leader (a grand hypothetical) I would simply - and quite publicly - say “President Trump is an irrelevance; he has made himself so through his foolish bumbling and blatant incompetence.”
Also, yeah……I’d tell him right to his goddamn orange face at a WH press conference, too.
re: #419 Anymouse 🌹
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re: #419 Anymouse 🌹
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Via @NYmag, a persuasive argument that it was President Trump — not RNC finance bigwig Elliot Briody—who paid $1.6M in hush money to silence a Playboy Playmate pregnant with his child: https://t.co/TROWAha9BN
— Alex Wagner (@alexwagner) May 8, 2018
This is very plausible.
re: #414 JordanRules
A Republican won in every primary they competed in.
re: #421 Dr Lizardo
If I were a European leader (a grand hypothetical) I would simply - and quite publicly - say “President Trump is an irrelevance; he has made himself so through his foolish bumbling and blatant incompetence.”
Also, yeah……I’d tell him right to his goddamn orange face at a WH press conference, too.
Lizardo for chancellor/prime minister/premier/president
re: #422 HappyWarrior
That would be too funny. I want Franklin Graham to try weasel his way out of that one.
God works through flawed vessels and with mysterious ways, he forgives the sins of the truly repentant, &c.
Whether repentance actually occurred is immaterial, since it is a cornerstone of Christianity.
So, if you work in a restaurant, you’ll soon be getting lots of calls from a spooky robot voice.
New Google assistant mimics human voice – video https://t.co/50Oapdfe7k
— Guardian Tech (@guardiantech) May 9, 2018
Example call to a hairdresser:
Another call to a restaurant. This doesn’t go exactly as expected.
re: #419 Anymouse 🌹
They are not unknowing…they are uncaring, as they don’t care what Trump does. Evangelicals are evil people who do not follow any word of Christ.
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) May 9, 2018
re: #420 Jay C
Disgusting/horrifyingly, probably yes.
After all, Trump HAS stated that trade wars are “easy to win”, and he wouldn’t lie to us, right?
I heard someone comment that Trump only cares about one thing.
That would be his immediate need for glory here in America with his base.
Apparently that means he is well prepared to ignore the rest of the world and all of our allies, etc.
So MAGA means make America great with praise to The Lord on High Donny Trump. In other words Make Donny Great Again.
Meanwhile the Republican Party seems to be fine with America in total isolation due to Trump.
re: #238 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Oh, and some more pleasant news about the economy involving things that go VROOM!
96 month auto loans are a thing…there can be no possible negative consequences…
re: #425 dangerman
Lizardo for chancellor/prime minister/premier/president
Go big or stay home. Absolute monarch.
I see KJU is playing Trump like Paganini on a Stradivarius fiddle… again.
North Korea has released three Americans it had been holding captive, in a deal that was announced as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo ended his visit to the isolated country. They left the country with Pompeo and will arrive back in the U.S. early Thursday. President Trump says he will meet the group at the airport.
“President Trump appreciates leader Kim Jong Un’s action to release these American citizens, and views this as a positive gesture of goodwill,” the White House said in a statement. “The three Americans appear to be in good condition and were all able to walk on the plane without assistance.”
re: #419 Anymouse 🌹
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If you believe, as I do, the Broidy $1.6m Playboy playmate payment which involved an abortion, was actually Trump’s….
And the RNC is paying Trump’s legal bills…..
Did poor unknowing evangelicals PAY FOR DONALD TRUMP’S ABORTION?
Money is fungible when it’s given to planned Parenthood
Not when it’s given to the RNC
re: #426 Anymouse 🌹
God works through flawed vessels and with mysterious ways, he forgives the sins of the truly repentant, &c.
Whether repentance actually occurred is immaterial, since it is a cornerstone of Christianity.
No. It is the cornerstone of the fundamentalist heresy. I realize you refuse to accept that there is a difference but it still exists. To repent means to change ones path; if you don’t, then you have not repented. Period.
re: #424 Belafon
A Republican won in every primary they competed in.
Talk about participation awards.
re: #435 MsJ
Talk about participation awards.
But the Democratic candidates killed it in their primaries too!
re: #429 ObserverArt
I heard someone comment that Trump only cares about one thing.
That would be his immediate need for glory here in America with his base.
Apparently that means he is well prepared to ignore the rest of the world and all of our allies, etc.
So MAGA means make America great with praise to The Lord on High Donny Trump. In other words Make Donny Great Again.
Meanwhile the Republican Party seems to be fine with America in total isolation due to Trump.
he’s also playing an incredibly short-sighted game
liek with the republicans and judges
and the iran ‘deal’ etc
short term image and gain against long term much bigger losses
trump has no idea that while cultivating his day to day high media ‘image’, actual history is going to savage him mercilessly
re: #430 I cannot.
Oh, and some more pleasant news about the economy involving things that go VROOM!
96 month auto loans are a thing…there can be no possible negative consequences…
It will hurt the car companies in the long run, because a lot of people will hold onto the car until they pay it off. It also means less trade in if the person tries to trade in for a new car if they haven’t paid it off. But wages aren’t keeping up with the change in the cost of cars.
I’d love to have a Michael Cohen “Sez Who” ringtone.
re: #430 I cannot.
Oh, and some more pleasant news about the economy involving things that go VROOM!
96 month auto loans are a thing…there can be no possible negative consequences…
I seem to recall that one of the things that drove Detroit into bankruptcy (which Obama bailed them out over) was that their financing division collapsed over making too many bad loans.
re: #437 dangerman
he’s also playing an incredibly short-sighted game
liek with the republicans and judges
and the iran ‘deal’ etc
short term image and gain against long term much bigger lossestrump has no idea that while cultivating his day to day high media ‘image’, actual history is going to savage him mercilessly
It really seems he has no concern about actual real damage to this country and to the world in general.
Just as long as people talk about him…and kiss his ass while doing it.
re: #441 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I seem to recall that one of the things that drove Detroit into bankruptcy (which Obama bailed them out over) was that their financing division collapsed over making too many bad loans.
Automotive industry downsizing, followed by the housing crisis, followed by more downsizing & another housing crisis.
Hugely important point from @jonathanchait: these payments to Cohen mean that we know Russia has had leverage over the Trump team https://t.co/faEX9wySKN pic.twitter.com/dchY2NUT8g
— Matt O’Brien (@ObsoleteDogma) May 9, 2018
re: #438 Belafon
Yep, and the longer the loan, the more likely a default. Both through just the passage of time, and the people going for long terms like this are probably the ones in the worst shape financially.
Stupid Financial Tricks are usually a good warning sign that fecal matter is about to hit the rotary air impeller, like the “NINJA” loans before the mortgage crash. It’s been 9 years since the last recession, we have a moron in office, rising oil and interest rates, and Stupid Financial Tricks in the auto market.
Look out below.
Wonkette goes after the Bari Weiss article in the New York Times
How Long Do We Have To Listen To White Dudes Whine Before They Are Officially Uncensored?
The “dissidents” Weiss profiles include Sam “Atheism is for boys ONLY” Harris, Michael Shermer, Ben Shapiro, Eric Weinstein (a mathematician and managing director of Thiel Capital — Peter Thiel being a notorious friend of free speech) and some of his relatives, Jordan Peterson, Christina Hoff Sommers (who Weiss, once again, insists is a “feminist”), and Islam critics Maajid Nawaz and Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
re: #441 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I seem to recall that one of the things that drove Detroit into bankruptcy (which Obama bailed them out over) was that their financing division collapsed over making too many bad loans.
GMAC.
Now Ally.
I think the car loans were shaky, but what really brought them down was when they expanded into home mortgages and got caught up in the whole 2000s mess.
“2:00 AM in the morning”
A 3rd grader has a better grasp on the English language than this.
Is it possible to pass a sausage wrap thru the nasal cavity? I think I just did.
— Freitfart News (@FreitfartNews) May 9, 2018
re: #434 William Lewis
No. It is the cornerstone of the fundamentalist heresy. I realize you refuse to accept that there is a difference but it still exists. To repent means to change ones path; if you don’t, then you have not repented. Period.
And there’s the problem. Fundamentalists call others who believe essentially the same book as they, heretics. Catholics called Protestants heretics (and fought a thirty year war over it). Orthodox churches called Catholics heretics over the Nicene Creed.
Saying to me “well, that denomination is heretics” is a non-starter. They all think I’m a heretic.
For me, the problem isn’t thirty thousand Christian denominations all calling each other heretics. To each, 29,999 are wrong but they are right.
Repent to a Christian denomination means exactly what that denomination says it does. It is their faith, and faith is not based on evidence.
Time for breakfast, then bed.
Haute cuisine this morning: Swanson microwaved Swedish meatballs. I’ll probably add a significant dash of Spontaneous Combustion hot sauce to juice them up a bit.
re: #424 Belafon
A Republican won in every primary they competed in.
It’s true. Failing Dems couldn’t do anything to stop that!
/
re: #451 Anymouse 🌹
Saying to me “well, that denomination is heretics” is a non-starter. They all think I’m a heretic.
Nah, you would be a heathen, a heretic would be a believer who believes wrong.
re: #414 JordanRules
Candace Owens of Turning Point USA is having a big impact on politics in our Country. She represents an ever expanding group of very smart “thinkers,” and it is wonderful to watch and hear the dialogue going on…so good for our Country!
— Donald J. Trump
Those words…I don’t think they mean what you think they mean.
re: #452 Anymouse 🌹
Time for breakfast, then bed.
Haute cuisine this morning: Swanson microwaved Swedish meatballs. I’ll probably add a significant dash of Spontaneous Combustion hot sauce to juice them up a bit.
I haven’t seen Swanson dinners for years! They only sell the “Hungry Man” carb bombs that require me to take an insulin shot before even looking at them…
re: #414 JordanRules
Lots of tweets unfortunately.
Anybody notice how often Donny puts words like “thinkers” and “smart” in quotes or in ALL CAPS?
Thread and articles.
My @Slate piece: This Cohen story previews a smoking gun and a road map for how to find it. These allegations are not just about a hush payment and campaign finance felonies. It’s a big step toward establishing bribery and conspiracy against U.S. 1/ https://t.co/rUh4tkT9WK
— Jed Shugerman (@jedshug) May 9, 2018
*the sound of a 1000 editors firing up ‘Iranian woman in chador walks by anti-US mural’ stock photo*
— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) May 8, 2018
here are some royalty free stock photos you can use instead of “Iranian woman in chador walks by anti-US mural” that depicts Iranians as humans and not shrouded, faceless bad guys defined by a hatred of America pic.twitter.com/7EStE4VTCE
— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) May 8, 2018
like clockwork pic.twitter.com/mKAdsxltOo
— One-Finger Armstrong (@armstrongtr) May 8, 2018
re: #451 Anymouse 🌹
And there’s the problem. Fundamentalists call others who believe essentially the same book as they, heretics. Catholics called Protestants heretics (and fought a thirty year war over it). Orthodox churches called Catholics heretics over the Nicene Creed.
Saying to me “well, that denomination is heretics” is a non-starter. They all think I’m a heretic.
For me, the problem isn’t thirty thousand Christian denominations all calling each other heretics. To each, 29,999 are wrong but they are right.
Repent to a Christian denomination means exactly what that denomination says it does. It is their faith, and faith is not based on evidence.
Reminds me of the Star Trek episode where people were absorbed into the Body of Landrew.
UK winning.
Airbus space contract will move from UK to continent due to Brexit https://t.co/XxXQLWAy5B
— The Guardian (@guardian) May 9, 2018
The sad truth of the matter is that the incoming world of hurt that’s going to affect the US because of Tump’s “management” is going to hurt a lot of good people as well as those who deserve it for having voted for him & supporting him. I just don’t see how that can be avoided.
The US is as toxic to the world today as the USSR might have been (arguably) in the 1960s. And I have no doubt that the various backlashes will deeply hurt your country. I am really really sorry for all the good people who are going to get hurt.
re: #463 Eclectic Cyborg
Make Britain Great Again!
At least America can point out that a majority of voters did not support Trump, he just managed to game the system. The UK clearly voted for this clusterf*ck and still have no clear idea of how it is going to hurt them.
re: #463 Eclectic Cyborg
Make Britain Great Again!
I do close to 100K euros/year business with a British digital printer; if they don’t stay in the CU that business will be redirected to a French-based printer. (Clearing books through customs to a non-EU country like Switzerland is a royal pain — and not free.) I don’t warrant an article in the press, but how many more businesses will do the same?
re: #465 Lupin
The answer you are looking for is: “Too many”
re: #462 Lupin
The sad truth of the matter is that the incoming world of hurt that’s going to affect the US because of Tump’s “management” is going to hurt a lot of good people as well as those who deserve it for having voted for him & supporting him. I just don’t see how that can be avoided.
The US is as toxic to the world today as the USSR might have been (arguably) in the 1960s. And I have no doubt that the various backlashes will deeply hurt your country. I am really really sorry for all the good people who are going to get hurt.
The pain isn’t likely to be one-sided.
re: #465 Lupin
I do close to 100K euros/year business with a British digital printer; if they don’t stay in the CU that business will be redirected to a French-based printer. (Clearing books through customs to a non-EU country like Switzerland is a royal pain — and not free.) I don’t warrant an article in the press, but how many more businesses will do the same?
Not to be a smart ass, but…
All of ‘em, Katie.
No company is going to pay more and create added logistical headaches for themselves. Not one.
re: #465 Lupin
There are countless examples, and Rotterdam is a fine example, given the volume of trade that goes through there; in modern trade, especially groceries, speed is vital, and any delays caused by customs and paperwork are that much more expensive.
re: #466 Eclectic Cyborg
The answer you are looking for is: “Too many”
I disagree. When there is money involved in fees, tariffs, added personnel to deal with logistics, etc., etc., etc., you will see no companies do that (and survive).
re: #468 MsJ
Not to be a smart ass, but…
All of ‘em, Katie.
No company is going to pay more and create added logistical headaches for themselves. Not one.
except for a few special products like Barbour jackets or Scotch whiskey, people are going to look for alternatives.
re: #174 freetoken
His presentation is the Design argument all over again. He asserts some things about biological research that I am sure real biologists could take apart quickly.
I listened to about 4 minutes of that video you posted; he’s a sophist. His ID idea/argument that cells are engineered is poor logic at best; more like shitty reasoning. I see no reason to pay any more attention to a physicist pretending he understands biology than pay attention to a priest arguing the same.
To suggest that biblical/religious arguments (i.e., bronze age discussions) have any bearing on modern science is beyond fantastical. It’s sheer lunacy.
re: #468 MsJ
No company is going to pay more and create added logistical headaches for themselves. Not one.
I have to agree. I do about 1 shipment/week from the UK to France. Also to Belgium and more occasionally to Germany, Italy, and Spain — all in the Customs union. Usually using DHL, more rarely UPS. And I can compare my experience with shipping to Switzertland, which isn’t. I will not put myself through that. No customs union, 100,000 euros in business gone, like that, overnight. And reluctantly, I’ll add, for I have been very happy with my British printer since 2005. Needless to say, they’re quite concerned.
re: #472 Colère Tueur de Lapin
I listened to about 4 minutes of that video you posted; he’s a sophist. His ID idea/argument that cells are engineered is poor logic at best; more like shitty reasoning. I see no reason to pay any more attention to a physicist pretending he understands biology than pay attention to a priest arguing the same.
To suggest that biblical/religious arguments (i.e., bronze age discussions) have any bearing on modern science is beyond fantastical. It’s sheer lunacy.
humans plan things and then build them, nature builds and develops them as they go along. when we get to the age of self-replicating machines, we will probably adopt a similar approach.
of course there are lots of things in nature that seem as if they were planned in advance, but nature is constantly experimenting and tossing aside failed designs.
One of my fucking Senators. The other is Mike Crapo.
As a Idaho resident & Naval veteran I find this tweet disgusting. She engaged in torture. The same type of torture we executed Japanese soldiers for after WW II. That you support a known torturer who violated Geneva convention & of you. International law doesn’t speak well of you
— Bubblehead II Wants Twiter to ban Nazis now! (@BubbleheadII) May 9, 2018
from electoral-vote: trump ‘withdraws’ from iran deal, in the ‘medium-term’ section
Boeing and Airbus had both signed juicy contracts to help Iran rebuild its airplane fleet; they have been advised that those contracts will be nullified within 90 days. Boeing has already said that the loss of this business could kill as many as 100,000 jobs. Several carmakers, including Ford, were set to help overhaul Iran’s car market. That’s not going to happen, either. General Electric, several hotel developers, and several airlines are also expected to take a hit with the loss of the Iran market. This does not seem to mesh with Trump’s campaign promise of “jobs, jobs, jobs,” but perhaps he is using a new math that we are not aware of.
re: #471 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
except for a few special products like Barbour jackets or Scotch whiskey, people are going to look for alternatives.
Well, IIRC, the Brexiteers “sold” the idea to the British public, that once “free” of EU economic “interference”, all of Britain was going to be the “alternative” economy for the ROW’s trade. Although the details of just how said “freedom” was actually going to work, i.e. how any economic benefits British interests might be able to work out outside the EU framework would offset the new problems with the EU that Brexit would/will inevitably entail - were, still are, and likely will be for the foreseeable future: vague and unspecific. Though replete with rosy optimistic predictions, naturally.
IMO, Britannia will find, after leaving what she saw as a bad marriage, that prostitution is the only viable alternative….
re: #476 Bubblehead II
One of my fucking Senators. The other is Mike Crapo.
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I heard someone the other day (Barry McCaffrey if I remember correctly) say that Gina Haspel would make a good CIA head because she has the career and knowledge of how it all works.
All she needs to do, in his opinion, was to swear what happen in Iraq with torture was wrong and that we (USA) will never do it again.
Then she will walk right through the process and get the office.
re: #479 ObserverArt
I heard someone the other day (Barry McCaffrey if I remember correctly) say that Gina Haspel would make a good CIA head because she has the career and knowledge of how it all works.
All she needs to do, in his opinion, was to swear what happen in Iraq with torture was wrong and that we (USA) will never do it again.
Then she will walk right through the process and get the office.
She does have a solid background in the CIA but also presided over some very unsavory activities.
re: #480 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
She does have a solid background in the CIA but also presided over some very unsavory activities.
Unsavory is being kind.
re: #480 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
She does have a solid background in the CIA but also presided over some very unsavory activities.
re: #481 HappyWarrior
Unsavory is being kind.
No big deal. Just say: “Oops my bad” and all is forgiven.
Everyone gives the benefit of doubt to the United States, right?
Well maybe prior to say late 2001 and what all that caused thereafter. Then Obama patched some of that trust back together…and then…
#happyhumpday #everyone !!! Love your Uncle Ronnie!! pic.twitter.com/Qh7eZJC1Fc
— Ron Jeremy (@RealRonJeremy) May 9, 2018
re: #470 MsJ
I disagree. When there is money involved in fees, tariffs, added personnel to deal with logistics, etc., etc., etc., you will see no companies do that (and survive).
That’s what I meant. Too many businesses will not want to bother doing business with the UK anymore and the British economy will get fucked up.
I wonder different this would have turned out if Trump owned a few hotels in Iran?
re: #474 Lupin
I have to agree. I do about 1 shipment/week from the UK to France. Also to Belgium and more occasionally to Germany, Italy, and Spain — all in the Customs union. Usually using DHL, more rarely UPS. And I can compare my experience with shipping to Switzertland, which isn’t. I will not put myself through that. No customs union, 100,000 euros in business gone, like that, overnight. And reluctantly, I’ll add, for I have been very happy with my British printer since 2005. Needless to say, they’re quite concerned.
I truly hope the UK fixes this mess. They need to do another referendum now that people have a better understanding of all the lies that got them to Yes to start with. And if it passes again, so be it. Buh bye UK.
re: #479 ObserverArt
I heard someone the other day (Barry McCaffrey if I remember correctly) say that Gina Haspel would make a good CIA head because she has the career and knowledge of how it all works.
All she needs to do, in his opinion, was to swear what happen in Iraq with torture was wrong and that we (USA) will never do it again.
Then she will walk right through the process and get the office.
Sadly he is probably right.
re: #485 Eclectic Cyborg
I wonder different this would have turned out if Trump owned a few hotels in Iran?
Iran is great okay. The Ayatollahs are great and just misunderstood.
re: #486 MsJ
I truly hope the UK fixes this mess. They need to do another referendum now that people have a better understanding of all the lies that got them to Yes to start with. And if it passes again, so be it. Buh bye UK.
And the issue of the internal border in Ireland is still unresolved. There is really no way that the EU will allow them to fudge on that one, that is the ultimate case of not thinking things through.
re: #483 Dave In Austin
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Ron Jeremy would be an improvement over President Shithead!
re: #464 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
At least America can point out that a majority of voters did not support Trump, he just managed to game the system. The UK clearly voted for this clusterf*ck and still have no clear idea of how it is going to hurt them.
Well, actually, a majority of Scottish voters voted to remain. As did a majority of North Ireland voters. And Londoners.
re: #491 Alephnaught
Well, actually, a majority of Scottish voters voted to remain. As did a majority of North Ireland voters. And Londoners.
yep, it was the Northern English Rust Belt that put Brexit over, just like America’s Rust Belt did it for Trump.
re: #491 Alephnaught
Well, actually, a majority of Scottish voters voted to remain. As did a majority of North Ireland voters. And Londoners.
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and Austin went for Clinton.
re: #491 Alephnaught
Well, actually, a majority of Scottish voters voted to remain. As did a majority of North Ireland voters. And Londoners.
Yep. Your countrymen and women’s response to Trump touting Brexit in Scotland was priceless. Made me proud of my small ties to your nation- my second great Nana was born and raised in Glasgow.
re: #362 JordanRules
These kids are smarter than you Sarah, don’t mess with them
Omg I literally had no idea you were still doin’ your thing!!! How have you been? How’s the tea party going? Super strong I bet
— Cameron Kasky (@cameron_kasky) May 9, 2018
re: #494 HappyWarrior
Yep. Your countrymen and women’s response to Trump touting Brexit in Scotland was priceless. Made me proud of my small ties to your nation- my second great Nana was born and raised in Glasgow.
One of the reasons for Scotland voting to stay in the UK was that it would have excluded them from the EU with no guarantee of being taken in.
Have not heard any word on whether they are going to hold a new referendum.
re: #493 Belafon
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and Austin went for Clinton.
Fair point, although I’d imagine the disparities of Scotland/London/Northern Ireland vs UK is not quite as big as Dallas/Houston/San Antonio/Austin vs Texas.
re: #493 Belafon
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and Austin went for Clinton.
Just like Columbus, Cleveland/Akron, Cincinnati and Toledo.
All blue spots against a Red State.
re: #498 ObserverArt
Just like Columbus, Cleveland/Akron, Cincinnati and Toledo.
All blue spots against a Red State.
It’s funny. I never thought Ohio was red. I thought it was purple if not light blue.
re: #499 MsJ
It’s funny. I never thought Ohio was red. I thought it was purple if not light blue.
by all rights, it votes around 50-50 in most elections but is so heavily gerrymandered that it is a Red State in terms of representatives.
re: #498 ObserverArt
Just like Columbus, Cleveland/Akron, Cincinnati and Toledo.
All blue spots against a Red State.
Cities are great. Va’s urban areas prevent us from being red. Btw you’re purple not red.
re: #499 MsJ
It’s funny. I never thought Ohio was red. I thought it was purple if not light blue.
I do really hate this characterization. Cities are not solid blue. There are as many if not more Republican voters in urban areas than outside in most states. It also mischaracterizes rural areas, where you generally still have 20-30 percent pulling the lever for whatever Democrat steps up to run.
the MN Department of Natural Resources has been sending out a newsletter that talks very plainly about how global climate change is affecting the state (and also puts it into a world context). I don’t think that this newsletter existed before Trump’s team started destroying every program that had anything to do with environmental protection. It might be a great newsletter to sign up your climate-change denying friends and relatives. It’s not overtly political, but it does present facts. Of course, if we ever have a republican governor again, this newsletter will get added to the list of destroyed resources.
re: #499 MsJ
It’s funny. I never thought Ohio was red. I thought it was purple if not light blue.
I was just talking about those color indicator maps that are put out after elections.
All the counties the big Ohio cities are in are shown blue. The only other blue county not associated with a bigger city was Athens county, where Ohio University is in Athens the city.
You are correct, we are a swing state so purple normally. It’s always a political battle state.
The northern half (industrial rust belt areas) were traditionally Democratic. The southern half was always Republican.
Columbus in the center is back ‘n’ forth as it is the Capital and has state government, insurance and research, warehouse distribution along with a huge liberal university in Ohio State.
Trump managed to bullshit his way to winning this state by convincing too many of those rust belt folks he would be a change agent and bring back their jobs. Same as all the Appalachian areas of the eastern to Ohio River areas of the state the were the coal counties.
re: #498 ObserverArt
Just like Columbus, Cleveland/Akron, Cincinnati and Toledo.
All blue spots against a Red State.
All the places where people live, instead of cows.
re: #504 ObserverArt
This is a map of red vs. blue states but with the states shown proportionally to their population and not their physical size:
Ron Jeremy 2020: At least you know up front you’re getting fucked.
re: #506 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
This is a map of red vs. blue states but with the states shown proportional to their population and not their physical size:
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I think that map is a little outdated. Pretty sure Trump won a number of those “blue” states unfortunately.
re: #506 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
1. Indiana has that many people?
2. Indiana is blue?
This map looks based on (with no resources other than my addled brain) on the 2008 election.
re: #509 CongoJack
1. Indiana has that many people?
2. Indiana is blue?This map looks based on (with no resources other than my addled brain) on the 2008 election.
Yep that’s 2008.
re: #495 gocart mozart
These kids are smarter than you Sarah, don’t mess with them
Half gov Sarah doesn’t have a thing to do her thing with.
re: #508 danarchy
I think that map is a little outdated. Pretty sure Trump won a number of those “blue” states unfortunately.
I think that was from 2008 or 2012…but it shows that a lot of “red country” is cows and prairieland
LOL Um no.
Dennis Kucinich lost in Ohio on Tuesday night, but he’s still the future of the Democratic Party: https://t.co/ob5vW3spJz pic.twitter.com/GX2bSPuQdS
— Slate (@Slate) May 9, 2018
Exactly what expertise in health care & pharmaceuticals did Novartis think Cohen could provide ?
— rmc (@Thelast_try) May 9, 2018
Therapeutic reciprocal back scratching https://t.co/w7MfgPMrni
— Ed Mix (@the_edwin_mix) May 9, 2018
Why isn’t it a bigger deal that Michael Cohen was the deputy finance chair of the Republican National Committee while he was being paid by Russian oligarchs and big corporations? This is on the whole Republican Party.
— Mike Levin (@MikeLevinCA) May 9, 2018
#Haspel
Just now, blatantly refused to answer two questions of Senator Reed:
👉 She did not answer if she had ever been alone with trump
👉 She did not answer if she would notify the Senate if trump asked her for loyalty
Guessing both trump situations have already occurred— Gamora🔥💖 (@exoticgamora) May 9, 2018
Cool GIF but I don’t think Ryan is spineless, he is complicit
Meanwhile in The House……. pic.twitter.com/IOlSS62CzC
— wayne hill (@wayneahill1) May 9, 2018
— Ed Mix (@the_edwin_mix) May 9, 2018
re: #277 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
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Produce or pharmacy aisle? Myself, I would put it in the cookie aisle.
#GeoawesomeMapOfTheDay Map showing all of the World’s Borders by Age via https://t.co/wval6LXIFo pic.twitter.com/d8lSFr7i0P
— Geoawesomeness (@geoawesomeness) May 9, 2018
This is such an interesting map! When was your home country’s boarder defined? https://t.co/b4nyyFyTpk
— American Geo Society (@AmericanGeo) May 9, 2018
re: #520 JordanRules
This is such an interesting map! When was your home country’s boarder defined?
My grandma ran off with the boarder staying in their house…that was my step grandpa.
re: #520 JordanRules
I would like to live in an age where borders exist for administrative purposes only: to define where you pay your taxes or register to vote, like state borders in the US.
Europe has come a step closer to that in recent decades.
re: #522 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I would like to live in an age where borders exist for administrative purposes only: to define where you pay your taxes or register to vote, like state borders in the US.
Europe has come a step closer to that in recent decades.
The US has been doing it for a while.
re: #513 JordanRules
LOL Um no.
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Strange article. I guess he is saying he likes Kucinich ideas not Kucinich.
I like how he just blows by all of Kucinich’s craziness as if that doesn’t count.
It’s just like Bernieism. Great ideas but no figuring in how the person Bernie is going to pull it off. Does he have the political chops, the political following of others willing to back him (helps to be in the actual party) and all the leadership intangibles to make people listen and follow.
Ideas are good. But they don’t do anything if you can’t get any movement on them. Even Obama learned that lesson…maybe a bit too late to counter the resistance he ran into.
re: #523 Belafon
The US has been doing it for a while.
That is part of the background to the kerfuffle in the Crimea: it was historically always part of Russia, but it was “given” to the Ukraine by Khruschev for administrative purposes as it was pretty much physically isolated from the rest of the Russian federation.
That mattered little as long as everyone was a Soviet citizen but became a major issue with the dissolution of the USSR.
99.5K karma! Thank you all, folks, only 500 to go and I can take a break and stop posting so frantically….
re: #526 gocart mozart
That’s the one you put on at the Friday nite house party with the sound turned down and the music cranked.
re: #513 JordanRules
LOL Um no.
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If you need cheering up, read the replies. Slate and the article’s author are getting torched.
re: #515 JordanRules
We said to drain your swamp, not our swamp!
re: #527 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
99.5K karma! Thank you all, folks, only 500 to go and I can take a break and stop posting so frantically….
I am in awe of those who have reached or are about to reach 100K karma. I recently passed 10k and my odds of attaining that goal are pretty slim!
re: #517 gocart mozart
Cool GIF but I don’t think Ryan is spineless, he is complicit
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The whole GOP is complicit, at least those in Congress. There are certainly a few outside of Washington who are not Putin puppets and/or on the Trump train (or maybe on a Venn diagram, there is a 100% overlap).
re: #531 Hecuba’s daughter
I am in awe of those who have reached or are about to reach 100K karma. I recently passed 10k and my odds of attaining that goal are pretty slim!
I’ve been here over 10 years…I see that our buddy anymouse has managed that in only three years…
re: #513 JordanRules
LOL Um no.
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Dude is 72 and has lost runs for three major offices. He’s not the future.
re: #524 ObserverArt
Strange article. I guess he is saying he likes Kucinich ideas not Kucinich.
I like how he just blows by all of Kucinich’s craziness as if that doesn’t count.
It’s just like Bernieism. Great ideas but no figuring in how the person Bernie is going to pull it off. Does he have the political chops, the political following of others willing to back him (helps to be in the actual party) and all the leadership intangibles to make people listen and follow.
Ideas are good. But they don’t do anything if you can’t get any movement on them. Even Obama learned that lesson…maybe a bit too late to counter the resistance he ran into.
Leadership is so much. I think part of leadership is surrounding yourself with capable people and Obama has done that where Sanders and Trump haven’t.
This will be my new favorite metaphor
Michael Cohen: renaissance man, jack of all trades, a veritable one man band (re-enactment of Cohen practicing law)https://t.co/Mirk8891Lw
— Ed Mix (@the_edwin_mix) May 9, 2018
re: #534 HappyWarrior
Dude is 72 and has lost runs for three major offices. He’s not the future.
He’s also part of the Putin brigade. The last time he had anything of value to sell the American public was during his time as mayor of Cleveland 40 years ago. It’s been all downhill since then - especially during this century.
— edit to correct grammar — one day I’ll learn to read carefully before posting!
re: #537 Hecuba’s daughter
He’s also part of the Putin brigade. The last time he had anything of value to sell the American public was during his time as mayor of Cleveland 40 years ago. It’s be all downhill since then - especially during this century.
Yep.
Further to my earlier post about that Google Duplex demo:
Google’s AI sounds like a human on the phone — should we be worried? https://t.co/I2BbowKCJL pic.twitter.com/dMNR2aIuOq
— The Verge (@verge) May 9, 2018
This actually addresses a few of the questions I was thinking when I saw this demo.
re: #513 JordanRules
LOL Um no.
The tweet doesn’t really quite match the article, which emphasizes only that Kucinich’s ideas/platform have become standard among most Democrats today, including some of those aiming for the presidency in 2020. The tweet makes it sound like the author thinks Kucinich himself is the future of the party.
Interesting thread. Now investigative journalists are digging.
I’ve acquired documents from the Hungarian company that wired Cohen $10,980 according to @MichaelAvenatti. It’s a bizarre situation. This will be a quick thread about what I’ve found thus far.
— Scott Stedman (@ScottMStedman) May 9, 2018
re: #541 MsJ
I’ve acquired documents from the Hungarian company that wired Cohen $10,980 according to @MichaelAvenatti. It’s a bizarre situation. This will be a quick thread about what I’ve found thus far.]
Hungary: another authoritarian, xenophobic model state…
The basic lesson from the Haspel hearings: we are a country that tortures and we’re fine with that, as long as it doesn’t make the papers.
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) May 9, 2018
What I wouldn’t give for a real Cap right now…
Meanwhile, on Hawaii. (a couple cool tweets, turn on the sound)
Another active day for #Hawaii!
14 Fissures opened so far.
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Follow: https://t.co/ABfB2WJldC#LeilaniEstatesEruption #HNN #HIwx #Lava #Volcano #KilaueaErupts #KilaueaVolcano #Kilauea #LeilaniEstates pic.twitter.com/lZGL1d8b5c— Live Storm Chasers (@LiveStormChaser) May 9, 2018
The #PunaLavaFlow from #KilaueaVolcano will continue to create more destruction of 🌴 and 🏠 #LeilaniEstates #beautiful #dangerous #mothernature. pic.twitter.com/G5cRtXNFfv
— Matthew Wolfe (@mwolfe808) May 9, 2018
I’ve acquired documents from the Hungarian company that wired Cohen $10,980 according to @MichaelAvenatti. It’s a bizarre situation. This will be a quick thread about what I’ve found thus far.
— Scott Stedman (@ScottMStedman) May 9, 2018
re: #540 Sir John Barron
The tweet doesn’t really quite match the article, which emphasizes only that Kucinich’s ideas/platform have become standard among most Democrats today, including some of those aiming for the presidency in 2020. The tweet makes it sound like the author thinks Kucinich himself is the future of the party.
Right. Horrible header in the tweet, but as ObserverArt notes his great ideas are accompanied by a lot of baggage and unelectibility. That’s not the future I see. So I vote no on the tweet and article.
re: #529 Mattand
If you need cheering up, read the replies. Slate and the article’s author are getting torched.
I’m just here for the ratio!
re: #495 gocart mozart
These kids are smarter than you Sarah, don’t mess with them
Anti-Gun Parkland Activist Finally Comes to His Senses After School’s Cover-Up on Shooter Comes Out
sarah - that article literally doesnt say what you say it says
re: #547 JordanRules
Right. Horrible header in the tweet, but as ObserverArt notes his great ideas are accompanied by a lot of baggage and unelectibility. That’s not the future I see. So I vote no on the tweet and article.
And Cordroy (sp) is pretty liberal, too, which the article also noted. So, why the article bothered pumping up Kucinich’s platform was a little peculiar.
re: #550 Sir John Barron
And Cordroy (sp) is pretty liberal, too, which the article also noted. So, why the article bothered pumping up Kucinich’s platform was a little peculiar.
Very peculiar. No Fox contributor and Putin apologist is gonna be the future of the Dems. It’s more absurd the more I think about it.
Stop trying to make fetch happen Slate!
re: #550 Sir John Barron
And Cordroy (sp) is pretty liberal, too, which the article also noted. So, why the article bothered pumping up Kucinich’s platform was a little peculiar.
Click-bait.
re: #551 JordanRules
Very peculiar. No Fox contributor and Putin apologist is gonna be the future of the Dems. It’s more absurd the more I think about it.
Stop trying to make fetch happen Slate!
The Berniecrats supported Kucinich but Bernie didn’t — I wonder if his concern was
1. Dennis couldn’t win so Bernie didn’t want a failure credited to him
2. It would make obvious that Bernie was a Putin puppet, like Jill and Trump.
3. Both.
re: #436 ObserverArt
But the Democratic candidates killed it in their primaries too!
The Democrats actually did do that: they demolished the OurRevolution-pretending-to-be-Democrats candidates
re: #543 Citizen K
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What I wouldn’t give for a real Cap right now…
No kidding, that’s one of my very favorite comic books. :)
re: #531 Hecuba’s daughter
I am in awe of those who have reached or are about to reach 100K karma. I recently passed 10k and my odds of attaining that goal are pretty slim!
Your ratio of posts to karma points is good. Just keep posting.
Also a big help if you want to rack up points is to post tweets. A lot of the big karma point scorers get all the dings for popular tweets.
White House Correspondents’ Association goes off on Trump for threatening to revoke press credentials https://t.co/nOCAO1LO06 pic.twitter.com/BHPPrmZS4C
— The Hill (@thehill) May 9, 2018
It’s incredible that they are still somehow less outraged about this than they were about Michelle Wolf. https://t.co/C0kNF8OoyX
— Matthew Chapman (@fawfulfan) May 9, 2018
Buried in the farm bill is a provision to undermine the ACA. It provides funding for junk plans that don’t cover essential benefits. These plans will siphon away healthier people and drive up premiums for ACA plans. https://t.co/FluqoroFTa
— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) May 9, 2018
my surprise…
And why would Cohen feel free to do this on his own?
And…here we go. https://t.co/MNmD8sBBii pic.twitter.com/IPi0zC0q9e
— Rex Huppke (@RexHuppke) May 9, 2018
According to this diary, things went well for Progressive Democrats yesterday in West Virginia: dailykos.com. An unknown ran against Manchin and garnered 30% of the vote, which it seems was enough to scare him into trying to get a progressive outreach going.
re: #556 ObserverArt
Your ratio of posts to karma points is good. Just keep posting.
Also a big help if you want to rack up points is to post tweets. A lot of the big karma point scorers get all the dings for popular tweets.
Not on twitter — so no original tweets!
“Trump, US don’t have the legal right to violate Iran nuclear deal” https://t.co/qsXYF4Fd39 pic.twitter.com/GUuXTLLoOP
— The Hill (@thehill) May 9, 2018
You’re going to find that “legal right” isn’t something Trump much worries about. https://t.co/KcaGkjhX2E
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) May 9, 2018
re: #561 Belafon
According to this diary, things went well for Progressive Democrats yesterday in West Virginia: dailykos.com. An unknown ran against Manchin and garnered 30% of the vote, which it seems was enough to scare him into trying to get a progressive outreach going.
I’m completely okay with this.
re: #543 Citizen K
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What I wouldn’t give for a real Cap right now…
What I wouldn’t give for more people that sound like the guy in the last pane.
re: #562 Hecuba’s daughter
Not on twitter — so no original tweets!
Your ratio is way higher than mine. I’ve been on for almost 6 years (in August). While Anymouse has been on half the time, he has a lot of comments.
re: #563 Backwoods_Sleuth
That’s still a useful article. Most people don’t know that we ratified the UN treaty, and, by our Constitution, we are bound by decisions made there.
re: #562 Hecuba’s daughter
Not on twitter — so no original tweets!
Do what ‘mouse does…mine twitter links and post them here. He doesn’t have an account either.
I don’t have an account either. Photoshop images and linking news videos helps me.
Really though it doesn’t matter. Unless it matters…like to Wendell! : )
Saudi Foreign Minister Adel Al-Jubeir says his country “will do whatever it takes to protect (its) people” if Iran restarts its nuclear weapons program, including developing its own nuclear weapons capability https://t.co/eUcIn3dpRR
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) May 9, 2018
Donald Trump’s stupidity could start a nuclear arms race. Not good. https://t.co/GeqF57LcOS
— Jack Miller (@politicalmiller) May 9, 2018
re: #569 jaunte
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A nuclear arms race in the ME? Sounds like what the Fundie zealots who love Trump dream of.
re: #560 jaunte
And why would Cohen feel free to do this on his own?
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How many years did Rod Blagoivich get? Cohen is looking at three times that number. He won’t see the outside of a prison cell ever again.
re: #562 Hecuba’s daughter
Not on twitter — so no original tweets!
Yoot Ube videos are good, too—animal videos especially. I was shocked when one got like 19 updings the other day….
re: #570 HappyWarrior
A nuclear arms race in the ME? Sounds like what the Fundie zealots who love Trump dream of.
It does, but there are a lot of people that should scare and I think we should take the opportunity to scare. The Cold War was bad enough when the two major actors were rational. Countries with religious agendas with nukes (including us), that’s a scary thought.
If the President is subpoenaed to testify, “he’s gotta do it. He has no choice.”
- Rudy Guiliani, 1998 pic.twitter.com/vpCzKYFvgJ— Rogue Melania🍸🍸 (@RogueFirstLady) May 9, 2018
re: #573 Belafon
It does, but there are a lot of people that should scare and I think we should take the opportunity to scare. The Cold War was bad enough when the two major actors were rational. Countries with religious agendas with nukes (including us), that’s a scary thought.
I know. That’s what disturbed me too. You’re right about the rational actors that existed in the Cold War. Deterrence and MAD requires both actors be rational and in this case, they’re not.
re: #543 Citizen K
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What I wouldn’t give for a real Cap right now…
There is an irony in Captain America’s origin story that I’m not sure ever really gets addressed… in response to the Nazis trying to create ubermensch, the US government went and created their own super soldier. His creation is really the antithesis of what America and the Allies were fighting for. It is only because of his internal moral strictures that he is a hero.
In a lot of ways, that is very much like Superman. The only thing that stops them from being villainous gods that conquer the country/world is a very particular view of American ideals. Perhaps that is why so many people like those characters (though I’ve always been team batman in the DC world and team Logan in Marvel).
re: #576 KGxvi
There is an irony in Captain America’s origin story that I’m not sure ever really gets addressed… in response to the Nazis trying to create ubermensch, the US government went and created their own super soldier. His creation is really the antithesis of what America and the Allies were fighting for. It is only because of his internal moral strictures that he is a hero.
In a lot of ways, that is very much like Superman. The only thing that stops them from being villainous gods that conquer the country/world is a very particular view of American ideals. Perhaps that is why so many people like those characters (though I’ve always been team batman in the DC world and team Logan in Marvel).
I never thought about that. Interesting.