Song for the Day: Madison Cunningham, “The Age of Worry”

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As I looked through your requests this week, most of you cast your vote for a song by the great #JohnMayer. “The Age Of Worry” came to mind. I’ve thought of these words almost weekly during all of this, and don’t think it could be more fitting. Thanks for writing this one, John.

I also want to dedicate this cover to the #BootlegTheater. That was the first stage I was allowed to stand on as a pre-adult, and has been home to many important memories since. I’m hopeful that it will be for many more to come. Much love to you, #SidTheCat, and #BootlegTheater, for opening your doors to us in the way that you have. For those of you who are concert-goers, and wish to help them out during the coming months, visit this link: https://linktr.ee/bootlegtheater

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Dave In Austin  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:25:38pm

Fuckith the Trump……

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austin_blue  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:25:45pm

Fuck Trump and the horse he rode in on!

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austin_blue  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:26:47pm

The CenTex contingent chimes in…

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Dave In Austin  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:28:38pm

Everyday I think it won’t get worse. Everyday it gets worse.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:30:54pm

Wingnuts are claiming that Sen. Rand Paul opposed the anti-lynching bill because he wanted to strengthen it.

a) Sure, Jan.
b) If the bill was found to be weak, it could be strengthened later.
c) Fuque Trump, from far north Texas (the Nebraska suburb of it).

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austin_blue  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:31:05pm

CL’d:

Pumpkin time.

We’ve lost 42 million jobs, which the Department of Labor admits is an undercount, and the absurd early reopening of certain businesses in mostly red states has forced some workers to balance their health with unemployment benefits, and Mango Mussolini Fuckwit claims SUCCESS!! WE’RE BACK!!

It isn’t. We aren’t. We have a long hard slog ahead of us, and we are nowhere the end of the shitshow.

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Jack Burton  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:33:20pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wingnuts are claiming that Sen. Rand Paul opposed the anti-lynching bill because he wanted to strengthen it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:37:14pm

Panhandle Public Health District Covid-19 Dashboard

Cases continue to accellerate here in the Old West.

Confirmed: 174 (+6, all in Scott’s Bluff County)
Active cases: 86
Recovered cases: 88
Active hospitalised cases: 6
Percentage of hospital beds available: 46%
Largest age group: 10-19 (37), then 40-49 (29)
Women are nearly 2/3 of cases
Deaths: 0

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:41:30pm

Tropical Storm warnings for western Louisiana have been dropped.
nhc.noaa.gov

Tropical Storm Cristobal is expected to be a post-tropical depression near or in Wisconsin by Tuesday evening.

LOCATION…23.3N 90.1W
ABOUT 405 MI…650 KM S OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…45 MPH…75 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…N OR 360 DEGREES AT 14 MPH…22 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…998 MB…29.47 INCHES

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:44:29pm

An incel that wanted to blow up cheerleaders blew one hand off and fingers off of the other hand:

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:44:58pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wingnuts are claiming that Sen. Rand Paul opposed the anti-lynching bill because he wanted to strengthen it.

a) Sure, Jan.
b) If the bill was found to be weak, it could be strengthened later.
c) Fuque Trump, from far north Texas (the Nebraska suburb of it).

You know how you show them that’s horseshit? You show them the video of his speech, where he whined that the bill was the exact opposite because (according to him) just giving someone a bruise could land them in jail for lynching.

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:45:34pm

re: #10 Belafon

An incel that wanted to blow up cheerleaders blew one hand off and fingers off of the other hand:

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So what you’re saying is he has a future as a drummer.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:46:11pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

You know how you show them that’s horseshit? You show them the video of his speech, where he whined that the bill was the exact opposite because (according to him) just giving someone a bruise could land them in jail for lynching.

I’m sure he means that it should be tougher on the black person for dying so easily. //

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:47:25pm

re: #13 Belafon

I’m sure he means that it should be tougher on the black person for dying so easily. //

Nah, they’re probably trying to say that he thinks the sentencing is too light, but he thinks the charging guidelines are too strict.

Remember, that’s how Bernie gets to preen about how he opposed the Crime Bill despite voting for it: “There’s things I liked in it, but overall I opposed it.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:50:19pm

Got CL’d downstairs.

re: #127 teleskiguy

It’s a window into his mental state. He’s melting down; his world is imploding and all he can do is lash out in impotent rage.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:50:54pm

I award this many “yikes.”

TORRINGTON, Wyo. — A former Torrington Police officers has been charged after a 15-year-old girl alleged he sexually assaulted her.

A jury trial has been set in Eighth Judicial District Court in Torrington for Anthony John Scoleri, 36, of Torrington.

Scoleri, has been charged with five felony counts: one count of first-degree sexual assault, three counts of sexual abuse of a minor in the first degree, and one count of incest.

Former officer charged, accused of sexual asasault (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, more at the link)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:53:03pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

You know how you show them that’s horseshit? You show them the video of his speech, where he whined that the bill was the exact opposite because (according to him) just giving someone a bruise could land them in jail for lynching.

What Rand Paul said doesn’t matter to conservatives, because it goes against their religion.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 10:57:05pm

Today in Nebraska protests:

In tiny Harvard, Nebraska, the town’s only black man organized a Black Lives Matters rally that drew many of his neighbors and a sympathetic police chief.

In the northwest Nebraska college town of Chadron, dozens of students others voiced their solidarity with the Black Lives Matters movement.

starherald.com

Across the state, there were no incidents of violence or property damage. In most of the protests, the police worked with the protestors.

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gwangung  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:10:42pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Today in Nebraska protests:

In tiny Harvard, Nebraska, the town’s only black man organized a Black Lives Matters rally that drew many of his neighbors and a sympathetic police chief.

In the northwest Nebraska college town of Chadron, dozens of students others voiced their solidarity with the Black Lives Matters movement.

starherald.com

Because black folks are so few in number that they don’t feel threatened.
Across the state, there were no incidents of violence or property damage. In most of the protests, the police worked with the protestors.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:13:54pm

Local law enforcement leaders react to Floyd case (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, two minutes ago)

TL;DR version:

“Sick to my stomach; sad to see it.”—Scott’s Bluff County Sheriff (sad?)

Chadron’s police chief says he doesn’t know any racist cops, and the subject of race doesn’t come up. He says the murder puts a stain on his profession. He says he doesn’t know anyone who would say “I’m completely racist” (no kidding).

Scottsbluff’s police chief says he wants all the facts to come out in court. From what he can tell, the man was properly secured in custody, and then he was suddenly on the ground and being killed. Even if they had cause, they should have immediately gotten him into a rescue position. He says he’s never seen anything like that.

The Cheyenne County Sheriff thinks its important to get the charges presented correctly rather than quickly. He then says he doesn’t understand the end goal of all the rioting and looting. He also says he’s “disappointed” in that officer and those who stood around and watched him. (Remind me not to disappoint the sheriff in Sidney.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:17:48pm

re: #19 gwangung

Harvard, Nebr. is in south-central Nebraska, and has a population just over one thousand.

There are many African-Americans in Nebraska, though they tend to live in the eastern part of the state.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:20:16pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:23:50pm

“Tiger King” is looking like a more and more apt metaphor for society and it is fucking with me.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:26:58pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

Yup. When I got pulled over a couple years ago for speeding on US-30 just outside Pine Bluffs, Wyo. by the Nebraska State Patrol, when the officer asked for my license and registration, the first thing I did was told him where they were (my wallet in the dash console and in the glovebox).

He didn’t have his gun out or his hand on his holster (white guy in Smart car with grey-haired wife doesn’t look particularly dangerous), but I was not about to do a damn thing without permission first.

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:32:21pm

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Local law enforcement leaders react to Floyd case (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, two minutes ago)

TL;DR version:

“Sick to my stomach; sad to see it.”—Scott’s Bluff County Sheriff (sad?)

Chadron’s police chief says he doesn’t know any racist cops, and the subject of race doesn’t come up. He says the murder puts a stain on his profession. He says he doesn’t know anyone who would say “I’m completely racist” (no kidding).

Scottsbluff’s police chief says he wants all the facts to come out in court. From what he can tell, the man was properly secured in custody, and then he was suddenly on the ground and being killed. Even if they had cause, they should have immediately gotten him into a rescue position. He says he’s never seen anything like that.

The Cheyenne County Sheriff thinks its important to get the charges presented correctly rather than quickly. He then says he doesn’t understand the end goal of all the rioting and looting. He also says he’s “disappointed” in that officer and those who stood around and watched him. (Remind me not to disappoint the sheriff in Sidney.)

In order:

“Sad” is a massive understatement, unless you’re only “sad” because the incident shown a spotlight on the rotten underbelly of American law enforcement.

Oh, I believe he doesn’t know racist cops, he just knows cops who he doesn’t view as racist because they make sure couch their views in their work environment. You know, the “joke” told in the break room that got snickers alongside mild admonishments to not tell that “joke” around others. Or the assholes who use words like “thugs” and “trash” but only ever in reference to certain suspects. Or has a habit of coming in with minority suspects sporting new bruises/welts that happened because “resisting arrest” or “fleeing the scene.” You know them, you just tell yourself that they can’t be racist because they don’t scream “Ni-CLANG!” when they’re around you.

Scottsbluff may never have personally witnessed it, but I’m sure he’s seen plenty of “subdued suspect” lines in reports. Or a lot of suspects complaining of neck pain and the arresting officers telling them to “stop faking.” And can’t for the life of him explain why so many of his officers keep getting hit with brutality accusations when nothing shows up in their reports and all their partners insist that they saw nothing that was against “department policy.”

And Cheyenne is really saying that if there hadn’t been protests, then the “investigation” could have concluded as it always does: With no charges being brought because the evidence is “inconclusive” or that the AG/DA/prosecutor couldn’t find enough to win in court.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:36:03pm

A bullshyte FOX text graphic has “Attack and Dethrone God” trending on Twitter. (really?)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:37:05pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:41:14pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A bullshyte FOX text graphic has “Attack and Dethrone God” trending on Twitter. (really?)

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Meanwhile, anybody younger than 50 really only knows Weather Underground as either that weather news service or the program that runs nightly on the Weather Channel.

What, did Faux get tired of Saul Alinsky already?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:42:57pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, anybody younger than 50 really only knows Weather Underground as either that weather news service or the program that runs nightly on the Weather Channel.

What, did Faux get tired of Saul Alinsky already?

LOL obviously someone leaked our plans for the War on Christmas six months early.

Plus, there aren’t too many people who watch FOX that are under fifty.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:47:27pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:49:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 5, 2020 • 11:54:12pm

Engineering problems on the Golden Gate Bridge:

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:01:52am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:04:38am
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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:06:57am

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Decided to read through the article and you imagine my surprise that while they do mention she’s a college dropout and she claims she used to be a liberal, they (like much of the media) make no mention about how she had the NAACP supporting in suing her high school for “racial harassment” and got a five figure settlement.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:18:23am

In other news, the inconvenient truth is breaking through the best efforts of DeSantis and his cohorts to hide it:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:20:36am

re: #35 Targetpractice

Decided to read through the article and you imagine my surprise that while they do mention she’s a college dropout and she claims she used to be a liberal, they (like much of the media) make no mention about how she had the NAACP supporting in suing her high school for “racial harassment” and got a five figure settlement.

The details of the racial harassment are at Wikipedia.

In 2007, while a 17-year-old senior in high school, Owens received three racist death threat voice mail messages, totaling two minutes, that were traced to a car in which the 14-year-old son of then-[Stamford, Conn.] Mayor Dannel Malloy was present. Joshua Starr, the city’s superintendent of schools, listened to the voicemail messages and said that they were “horrendous.” Owens’ family sued the Stamford Board of Education in federal court, alleging that the city did not protect her rights, resulting in a $37,500 settlement in January 2008.

She also ran a blog in 2015 while she was a VP for marketing at a private equity firm called “Degree180” which attacked conservatives and mocked Donald Trump.

She then tried to start a Website called socialautopsy.com in 2016, with the goal of tracking down people who made offensive posts on social media, and index them by name. That drew a whole bunch of controversy from all sides of the doxxing debate, with both liberals and conservatives condemning the Website.

The Website was to be funded by Kickstarter; they suspended funding over the proposal to dox people and she never started it.

She was then doxxed herself. Gamergaters started promoting her as a victim of “liberal intolerance” (there was no evidence it was liberals), followed by Milo Yiannopolis and Mike Cernovich promoting her as a victim of liberals. She claims she became a conservative “overnight,” as liberals “are the real racists.”

(More likely, she sees who it is easier to grift from.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:26:52am

On the “attack and dethrone God” thread on Twitter, there are a whole bunch of offended Christians both preaching and not understanding this started at FOX. They think liberals are trying to do this.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:27:35am

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The details of the racial harassment are at Wikipedia.

She also ran a blog in 2015 )while she was a VP for marketing at a private equity firm) called “Degree180” which attacked conservatives and mocked Donald Trump.

She then tried to start a Website called socialautopsy.com in 2016, with the goal of tracking down people who made offensive posts on social media, and indexed them by name. That drew a whole bunch of controversy from all sides of the doxxing debate, with both liberals and conservatives condemning the Website.

The Website was to be funded by Kickstarter; they suspended funding over the proposal to dox people and she never started it.

She was then doxxed herself. Gamergaters started promoting her as a victim of “liberal intolerance” (there was no evidence it was liberals), followed by Milo Yiannopolis and Mike Cernovich promoting her as a victim of liberals. She claims she became a conservative “overnight,” as liberals “are the real racists.”

(More likely, she sees who it is easier to grift from.)

Ayep, much like Cubic Zirconium and Raylon, she found that there’s a steady paycheck to be had in play-acting as a “black activist” for wingnuts to point to in the political equiv of a “black friend.”

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:31:58am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:36:24am

re: #39 Targetpractice

Ayep, much like Cubic Zirconium and Raylon, she found that there’s a steady paycheck to be had in play-acting as a “black activist” for wingnuts to point to in the political equiv of a “black friend.”

And like others, she doesn’t realise she goes under the bus as soon as they find a new black friend.

The worst case of it I recall in recent times was former GOP chair Michael Steele. In Mr. Steele’s case, I believe he wasn’t there to be the “black friend” but sincerely wanted to work to help the GOP; he did help with the GOP regaining control of the Senate, arguably a feather in the cap of any political party leader.

After his term was complete (unlike the Dems, the GOP hires people to be the party chair, which is something I think the Dems should adopt as well), Republican politicians started condemning him, particularly at CPAC, where they said the only reason the GOP hired him was “because he was a black guy.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:37:23am

re: #28 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, anybody younger than 50 really only knows Weather Underground as either that weather news service or the program that runs nightly on the Weather Channel.

What, did Faux get tired of Saul Alinsky already?

The Weather Underground hasn’t been relevant in my lifetime, or at least since I was a toddler (I’m 50).

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:37:24am

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

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I can’t imagine myself ever becoming so deluded that I would think preventing medical services from operating during a protest would make me look like the “good guy.” Are they just in a total media blackout, unable to hear or see anything other than the other macho assholes in their department talking about how they’re “winning” because of the number of people they locked up?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:41:26am

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

Well, that says who really values life, and it ain’t the cops.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:44:34am
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Dread Pirate  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:51:28am

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

The Weather Underground hasn’t been relevant in my lifetime, or at least since I was a toddler (I’m 50).

When my friends started associating with the underground I left the movement, besides the war was winding down.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:51:39am

Mr. Scurlock was shot outside a bar in Omaha by a white bar owner.

The bar has been evicted by the landlord of the building. The Douglas County prosecutor relented and will empanel a grand jury after large protests and a petition drive (his original position was “it looks like self-defence to me”)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:56:35am

Riots, like military org., ‘attack and dethrone God’ - Former FBI agent (Jerusalem Post)

Hey, Mr. Turchie, I wasn’t aware that your god was so weak he could be attacked and dethroned by rioting. Maybe you ought to find a better one.

Former FBI deputy counterterror director Terry Turchie told Fox News’s Laura Ingraham on Friday when speaking on the news that the riots occurring throughout the United States in response to the murder of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police is not unlike the extreme leftist Weather Underground Organization (WUO), claiming one of its intentions was to “attack and dethrone God.”

(more)

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:00:40am

re: #46 Dread Pirate

When my friends started associating with the underground I left the movement, besides the war was winding down.

I doubt anyone under 50 would even know who they were, unless they’re a history buff.

I guess maybe up next, FNC can regale/terrify their viewers with the ideology of the Symbionese Liberation Army. 😂

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Dread Pirate  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:02:24am

Wasn’t it 350-288 just a couple days ago? Ohio has gone from barely GOP to barely Democrat.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:02:36am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Riots, like military org., ‘attack and dethrone God’ - Former FBI agent (Jerusalem Post)

Hey, Mr. Turchie, I wasn’t aware that your god was so weak he could be attacked and dethroned by rioting. Maybe you ought to find a better one.

(more)

In other words, one of Faux’s regular intellectual fossils came on to further inflame white fear.

Ho-hum.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:05:11am

re: #50 Dread Pirate

Wasn’t it 350-288 just a couple days ago? Ohio has gone from barely GOP to barely Democrat.

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Nah, what should be turning the GOP’s shit white is that Texas is “Barely Republican.” If the Yellow Rose flips blue and stays there, then it’s game over.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:06:58am

re: #50 Dread Pirate

270towin.com has it at Democrats 232/Republicans 204/Toss-up 102.

Toss-up states they have are AZ, NE-2, WI, MI, FL, NC, PA.

Leans Dem: NH
Leans GOP: TX, IA, GA, ME-2

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:07:15am

re: #52 Targetpractice

Nah, what should be turning the GOP’s shit white is that Texas is “Barely Republican.” If the Yellow Rose flips blue and stays there, then it’s game over.

Texas turning blue would mean the GOP is finished as a national party, at least as far as the White House is concerned.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:14:35am

They’re having too much fun with this, and too many Christians aren’t reading where it came from and are all sorts of offended.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:28:44am
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:31:56am

I admit, this elicited a grim chuckle

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:32:28am

Fingers crossed.

Morning Consult Senate Rankings

Ben Sasse (R-NE) started the first quarter of 2017 with an approval/disapproval rating here of 55/26.

Since 2019’s third quarter it’s been dropping rather quickly. It’s at 45/35 (the remainder unknown or no opinion). Working on that 20% of fence-sitters might help to flip the seat.

I can hope, anyway; most pollsters hold his seat as “safe R.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:33:10am

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Tomorrow’s To-Do List:

Get up early to make a grocery run.
Fold laundry.
Patch rain boots before storm.
Vacuum the furniture.
Attack and dethrone God.
Empty the dishwasher.
Maybe bake something.

Ditto here, but will squeeze in toppling a Civil War Monument, destroying culture and heritage.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:33:24am

One of the things that amuses me about today is all the people who seemed to have forgotten in the past week or so that Donny’s stunt today with the jobs report is exactly the shit he’s been doing forever: Float “good” news in order to goose the day’s market numbers, then play up the market’s “boom” while the media that played part in his scam are “shocked” to learn that it was all BS.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:33:30am

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

I admit, this elicited a grim chuckle

Betcha his next statement he doesn’t praise the police for restraint.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:34:48am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ditto here, but will squeeze in toppling a Civil War Monument, destroying culture and heritage.

You might have to burn a Confederate Battle Flag as well. Maybe use it to start a barbecue.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:35:06am

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Owens brought up Floyd’s lengthy prison sentence for armed robbery and stated: ‘The fact that he has been held up as a martyr sickens me’.

One can make the case that he is neither a role model nor a hero, and perhaps he had been doing things that warranted arrest, but not summary execution.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:45:33am

They know precisely why, because of Nazi Barbie on FOX.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:46:41am

It is too early for the war on Christmas.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:47:35am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is too early for the war on Christmas.

We just finished sacrificing the Easter Bunny a couple months ago. I mean really, who’s in charge of scheduling?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:48:49am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is too early for the war on Christmas.

I nominate our two atheistic state senators, Ernie Chambers and Megan Hunt.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:49:05am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One can make the case that he is neither a role model nor a hero, and perhaps he had been doing things that warranted arrest, but not summary execution.

People often wonder how German citizens could stand by and do nothing as innocent people were beaten or executed in the street by the Gestapo. Surely they had to know that it was wrong, right? This was their neighbor, their friend, someone they said “Hello” to on the street, and now he lay in that same street with his brains blown out as men in long coats laughed and spat on his corpse. Why didn’t anyone speak out?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:49:30am

If Christmas is about Christ, the Son of God, than Easter is about Oestra, the pagan Goddess of Fertility!!!

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:50:25am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is too early for the war on Christmas.

No kidding, we haven’t even finished preparations for the annual disrespecting of our troops and vets on July 4th!

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 6, 2020 • 1:53:20am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:02:16am

Did the chowderhead former FBI guy on FOX make up an agenda for the former Weather Underground terrorist group (unless it’s the weather-forecasting Website acquired by The Weather Channel he’s referring to—perhaps Tropical Storm Cristobal is part of the secret plan to dethrone God).

The list on FOX doesn’t even make sense. The graphic says:

The Weather Underground’s Strategy

* Destroy Capitalism
* The weapon of choice—systemic racism and police racism
* Identify the victim classes
* Organize the victim classes
* Engage in international solidarity with the global movement
* Attack and dethrone God.

Aside from this guy pulling this out of some very large arse, if each of these is a step to achieve a goal, then #2 is not a step. And in #5, what global movement?

The final step (presumably the goal), “attack and dethrone God” doesn’t really seem to accomplish much. What is this, underpants gnome reasoning?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:02:35am

VOCES8 - Sleep

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:05:12am

re: #70 Targetpractice

No kidding, we haven’t even finished preparations for the annual disrespecting of our troops and vets on July 4th!

//

I can’t wait for my town’s Independence Day parade, when I’m at the front of the parade marching with the US Flag to show disrespect to the flag and veterans, as the Flag Committee chair and a disabled veteran.

I’ll put that on the agenda right after attacking and dethroning God.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:08:21am
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:09:42am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:12:56am

Area weather for Scottsbluff and the surrounding region (currently 70°F/21°Commie), with video forecast for Canada and the United States.

bbc.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:16:49am

Wingnuts to boycott (again) the NFL in three… .

NFL says players’ protests during national anthem should be allowed (BBC)

The National Football League has said players should be allowed to protest during the national anthem as rallies against racial discrimination continue.

“We were wrong for not listening to NFL players earlier and encourage all to speak out and peacefully protest,” NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said.

The NFL had previously banned players from dropping to one knee, a practice started by Colin Kaepernick in 2016.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:18:21am

re: #76 goddamnedfrank

Armed wingnuts are “patriots exercising their II Amendment rights; protestors are anarchists bent on destroying society.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:22:26am

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wingnuts to boycott (again) the NFL in three… .

NFL says players’ protests during national anthem should be allowed (BBC)

(more)

Funny, because until 2009, players did not even come out until after the National Anthem. But then the US military started paying the NFL to promote for “patriotism” in games, probably inspired by the sight of soccer players singing their national anthems before international matches.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:23:44am

Michael Jordan: NBA legend to donate $100m to racial equality fight (BBC Sport)

Michael Jordan says he will donate $100m (£78m) to groups fighting for racial equality and social justice.

The NBA legend said in a statement that he and his Jordan Brand would distribute the money over 10 years.

The money will go to a number of organisations in a bid to tackle “ingrained racism”.

(more)

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:26:08am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Funny, because until 2009, players did not even come out until after the National Anthem. But then the US military started paying the NFL to promote for “patriotism” in games, probably inspired by the sight of soccer players singing their national anthems before matches.

Here’s a hell of a thought: Let’s go back to the old rules, with players not coming out until after the anthem, and people won’t have to be confronted with images of kneeling players.

Think it might fly with today’s hip, young crowd?////

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:26:13am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:26:48am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Funny, because until 2009, players did not even come out until after the National Anthem. But then the US military started paying the NFL to promote for “patriotism” in games, probably inspired by the sight of soccer players singing their national anthems before matches.

I can see a possible solution for the NFL: Go back to the old system.

That said, it’s probably like trying to not wear a flag pin as a politician now. Once Reagan started that, any politician not wearing one was seen as unpatriotic by wingnuts.

I was once asked in a village board meeting why I didn’t wear one, my answer was “I don’t wear my patriotism on my lapel.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:27:20am

re: #82 Targetpractice

Here’s a hell of a thought: Let’s go back to the old rules, with players not coming out until after the anthem, and people won’t have to be confronted with images of kneeling players.

Think it might fly with today’s hip, young crowd?////

That would be damn amusing…”destroying a vaunted (eleven-year-old) tradition!”

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:29:13am

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

I’m in, so long as we’re all agreed that we sit back and watch any dumbasses who rush in without the team or a plan get horribly slaughtered. Even if they do have chicken…

//

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:31:28am

re: #86 Targetpractice

I’m in, so long as we’re all agreed that we sit back and watch any dumbasses who rush in without the team or a plan get horribly slaughtered. Even if they do have chicken…

//

Excuse me. Leeroy Jenkins was a role model, and one I aspired to emulate often. My wife even agrees, though usually I was the one who had to clean up her mess.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:33:15am

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That said, it’s probably like trying to not wear a flag pin as a politician now. Once Reagan started that, any politician not wearing one was seen as unpatriotic by wingnuts.

It was pointed out by someone here that those who do not understand what a concept really means (like patriotism, Christianity, masculinity, etc.) are the ones who cling most tightly to the arbitrary symbols that are attached to it (like flags, crucifixes and guns)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:33:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:35:10am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We lost a good comrade tonight people.
I regret to inform you that Fency McFence face Jr. is dead.

I cannot find that too funny as people are getting killed in these protests

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:35:26am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:35:43am

These people—the expert, FOX, its audience, the president—have zero interest in whether their characterization of leftists is real or not. They aren’t interested in the project of describing what is. What they want is a story that lets them do whatever they want…and what they want is for anyone criticizing them to be God-defiling baby eating monsters because then they can jack off in glee rather than empathize with the people getting chewed up by LEOs. So there’s no incentive to admit that ATTACK AND DETHRONE GOD is trending because they themselves introduced the idea, and even less incentive to acknowledge that they’re being mocked. Quite the opposite, if they continue to take the notion seriously it gets them more justification to view their fellow Americans as not-American and depraved in ways that merit harm and death.

These interludes of stupid are experiments in full eliminationist thinking. They’re trying for a formula, a perfect sexy guignol story to explain why not only does there have to be the existing system of cruelty and corruption, but there should probably be a bigger, more violent system that simply removes agency from lots of people. Consistency and reason don’t matter because the proposal is that anyone that applies reason to the assertion is the enemy. And the end point is always that the crazy claims will become reasonable and “true” once everybody that would contest it is dead or terrorized into silence.

This works like the radio channel that powered the genocide in Rwanda. It was never about proof or logic, but about creating an instant emotional bypass in which your neighbor is now a Hutu and a Hutu deserves to be raped with bamboo poles and left to bleed out while you rob their house. This works like the Ahnenerbe, in that you start from the conclusion and create the language that sounds like expertise to explain how the unspeakable act was necessary, natural, inevitable, and self defense. And ultimately it will work like the process of forgetting that means that most Americans didn’t know about Tulsa and Rosewood, and don’t think too hard about what it meant for the Southerns to believe slaves were animal- and -childlike- but sexually assault enslaved women.

It doesn’t make sense because fascism never makes sense: it’s a bundle of narcissistic want demanding to be treated as an ideology, offended when people accurately observe that its intolerance is intolerable. Each participant is intoxicated. When they’re afraid, the fear is still gratifying because it confirms their worldview; and from the fear they stoke anger and the anger is justified because the fear is “true” and from there comes permissions for greater and greater cruelty and abuse of power.

One of the things I keep pointing out is that a lot of people in reactionary circles have already signed on, implicitly, for things they supposedly abhor. De facto, they’re fine with sexual abuse as long as it happens within a power framework they’re comfortable with. De facto, they fucking love civilian casualties because they’ve built a framework in which everyone they don’t like is a combatant. De facto, they don’t care the slightly about basic civil liberties and find the idea of depriving others of those liberties basically erotic.

Laugh, but just keep in mind that their plan is to have enough power to declare 2+2=5 while renacting My Lai.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:41:21am

re: #92 The Ghost of a Flea

These people—the expert, FOX, its audience, the president—have zero interest in whether their characterization of leftists is real or not. They aren’t interested in the project of describing what is.

It is important for them to characterize this as

Antifa vs Patriots

Chaos vs Law and Order

and now

God Dethroners vs God Defenders

in other words, Black and White…

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:43:46am

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:44:26am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s the C S Lewis thing.

The opponent has to be accused of so great a depravity that it’s a heroic act to stand by the status quo (which is actually depraved).

This is why their accusation virtually always have the quality of confession: each accusation is modeled after something they’re concealing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:45:48am

re: #95 The Ghost of a Flea

This is why their accusation virtually always have the quality of confession: each accusation is modeled after something they’re concealing.

Yes, namely the fact that Law and Order should also apply to police officers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:49:25am

re: #92 The Ghost of a Flea

I suspect that’s why FOX stopped posting to their Twitter account in 2019.

When FOX posted obvious propaganda, lots of people would come into their Twitter timeline and “correct the record” (expose their readers to facts).

Twitter is a very easy way to promote yourself, and it’s free. FOX didn’t give up free promotion for nothing. My suspicion is they didn’t want their followers to be exposed to alternate viewpoints, or facts showing their viewers that FOX was flat-out wrong or lying about something.

But we’re in a bubble.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:51:58am
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:52:04am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, namely the fact that Law and Order should also apply to police officers.

Only in as much as the police are seen as part of the in-group. It’s the in-group that gets to be exempt from the rules, while everyone else has to obey the rules the in-group’s leaders set.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:54:07am

re: #98 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

[Embedded content]

Berners pledge to fight on toward their ultimate goal: Totally fucking up another election so that they can claim to have “moral superiority.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2020 • 2:55:27am

I’m gong to have to head off to bed.

It turns out you need a lot of sleep if “Dethrone God” is on your agenda for the next day.

G’night, y’all.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:00:23am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:02:30am

re: #102 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

BREAKING: NYPD suspends 2 officers seen in widely disseminated protest videos: On 5/29, an officer is seen pushing a woman to the ground & on 5/30, an officer is seen pulling down an individual’s face mask and spraying pepper spray at him.

Tucker Carlson has already warned us that if we start “persecuting” police for “doing their job”, they will all quit and abandon us to Mau-Mau rape gangs invading our neighborhoods…

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:02:43am

re: #92 The Ghost of a Flea

You mentioned the 1921 Tulsa Massacre, which kicked off HBO’s Watchmen series. I recall reading comments from a good many people (many of them younger) who absolutely no idea whatsoever of that atrocity. A lot of them initially thought it was entirely fictional….until they read about it on Wikipedia. They were genuinely horrified and there were countless comments noting they’d never learned about it in school.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:03:48am

Speaking of Berners, I missed Talcum X’s latest brain fart:

Tell me again why anybody gives this shitheel the time of day?

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:06:25am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If Christmas is about Christ, the Son of God, than Easter is about Oestra, the pagan Goddess of Fertility!!!

Her cousin Olestra is not nearly as much fun.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:12:41am

re: #104 Dr Lizardo

You mentioned the 1921 Tulsa Massacre, which kicked off HBO’s Watchmen series. I recall reading comments from a good many people (many of them younger) who absolutely no idea whatsoever of that atrocity. A lot of them initially thought it was entirely fictional….until they read about it on Wikipedia. They were genuinely horrified and there were countless comments noting they’d never learned about it in school.

I learned about Rosewood from the John Singleton movie of the same name. Not the only reason I’m obsessed with this topic, but I can remember that feeling of discontent and anger that events like that happened and were just kind of swept away. I mean, people don’t even know that “race riots” used to mean whites heading into an ethnic or black neighborhood.

The way history creates a narrative in which there’s good bits and the bad stories are always built with a rising action makes me fucking insane.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:14:30am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This guy, Terry Turchie, is promoting a book-length hit piece against the Democratic party, who he considers far-left communists. He’s probably hoping for bulk purchases from the RNC.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:15:36am

re: #108 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

This guy, Terry Turchie, is promoting a book-length hit piece against the Democratic party, who he considers far-left communists. He’s probably hoping for bulk purchases from the RNC.

That is part of the GOP strategy: to associate a vote for the Democrats with a vote for Marx and Lenin.

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teleskiguy  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:23:22am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I suspect that’s why FOX stopped posting to their Twitter account in 2019.

@FoxNews definitely resumed tweeting. It’s all just links to their “straight” news stories, no promotion of their TV schedule, no editorials. Cucker Tarlson, Ingraham, Hannity are nowhere to be found.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:24:08am

re: #107 The Ghost of a Flea

I learned about Rosewood from the John Singleton movie of the same name. Not the only reason I’m obsessed with this topic, but I can remember that feeling of discontent and anger that events like that happened and were just kind of swept away. I mean, people don’t even know that “race riots” used to mean whites heading into an ethnic or black neighborhood.

The way history creates a narrative in which there’s good bits and the bad stories are always built with a rising action makes me fucking insane.

I first heard about in the early 1990s; the grandparents of my girlfriend at the time survived and moved away in the aftermath. But I sure as hell didn’t learn about that in high school. I read more about it later.

But until quite recently, that whole ugly massacre was swept under the carpet. At least now, it’s in the public consciousness.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:29:58am

re: #111 Dr Lizardo

I first heard about in the early 1990s; the grandparents of my girlfriend at the time survived and moved away in the aftermath. But I sure as hell didn’t learn about that in high school. I read more about it later.

But until quite recently, that whole ugly massacre was swept under the carpet. At least now, it’s in the public consciousness.

Story I heard from my mom is that my granddad, an Eastern European immigrant, was fleeing the Chicago Race Riots of 1919, he walked all night along the railroad tracks until he came to Gary, Indiana, found a job and settled down there.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:36:32am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 6, 2020 • 3:40:58am

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PrairieQueen  Jun 6, 2020 • 4:00:13am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I can’t watch Fox, even to glean whatever bullshit they’re spewing. Instead, I know every pandering move they make, every dog whistle and baseless conspiracy theory they hatch, by way of a conservative friend that fills me in on the outrage du jour she bought wholesale from watching the show and reading their news.

I know that racism doesn’t exist. I know the liberals are trying to kill God. I know that everything about COVID-19 is a lie. I know vaccines cause autism. I know Bill Gates and Fauci and anyone who’s ever embraced science is part of a worldwide cabal that wants to microchip the population when we’re forced to submit to vaccines. I know that Hillary and Bill Clinton killed dozens of people, including Epstein. I know there’s a Hollywood underground that holds parties with the liberal elite where they eat innocent babies and practice Satanic rituals.

I know all this without ever watching Fox News, because she can’t wait to warn me after she watches and reads Fox News. It’s an endless stream of daily outrage and brainwashing, where the Fox-informed minions dutifully turn to “wake up” the rest of us, because Fox just “blew the lid off.”

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PrairieQueen  Jun 6, 2020 • 4:07:16am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Maybe the same as I feel about a lifelong un-redeemable ex-druggie prick like Rush Limbaugh receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom?

But Rush isn’t dead yet.

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jeffreyw  Jun 6, 2020 • 4:11:16am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 4:14:12am

re: #116 PrairieQueen

Maybe the same as I feel about a lifelong un-redeemable ex-druggie prick like Rush Limbaugh receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom?

But Rush isn’t dead yet.

I feel more sorry for the cancer cells having to consume that miserable heap of flesh…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 6, 2020 • 4:19:49am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I feel more sorry for the cancer cells having to consume that miserable heap of flesh…

Cancer died of Rush Limbaugh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 4:21:57am

re: #115 PrairieQueen

I can’t watch Fox, even to glean whatever bullshit they’re spewing.

I sometimes check into newsmax . com to find out what the latest RW talking points are. They are every bit as conservative as Fox but not quite as toxic.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 4:43:47am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

On the “attack and dethrone God” thread on Twitter, there are a whole bunch of offended Christians both preaching and not understanding this started at FOX. They think liberals are trying to do this.

Better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven.
—Saul Alinsky

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PrairieQueen  Jun 6, 2020 • 4:45:38am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can’t investigate those sources because it feels like I was airdropped into a klan meeting in a cave, in the days before science or reason. I can’t spend every day in an endless sense of outrage over toxic right wing nutjobs that can’t and won’t produce receipts - it’s bad for my health and I feel like I devolve for every second of my life I spend in their midst.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 4:52:20am

re: #122 PrairieQueen

I can’t investigate those sources because it feels like I was airdropped into a klan meeting in a cave, in the days before science or reason.

I just drop by to check the talking points, same reason I used to read Pravda and Izvestiya, to find out the Party Line.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 4:57:35am

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You might have to burn a Confederate Battle Flag as well. Maybe use it to start a barbecue.

You must not be burnin’ any Confederate flags in your barbecue. Your ribs will taste of that Chinese nylon shit for months.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:03:14am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I just drop by to check the talking points, same reason I used to read Pravda and Izvestiya, to find out the Party Line.

I lurk Freep at least once a day. It’s a little depressing to see they use the same rhetorical structures we do, but with content turned 180 degrees.

“Just think if Michelle Obama/Melania Trump wore that.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:05:15am

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Freep

In the states, freep.com goes directly to the Detroit Free Press - hardly a Trump toady.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:05:53am

re: #125 Decatur Deb

I lurk Freep at least once a day. It’s a little depressing to see they use the same rhetorical structures we do, but with content turned 180 degrees.

“Just think if Michelle Obama/Melania Trump wore that.”

I came here for a good argument back when the place was a lot more conservative, around 2007. But at least they used rhetorical structures and not just shouting and personal attacks.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:06:11am

re: #126 Eric The Fruit Bat

In the states, freep.com goes directly to the Detroit Free Press - hardly a Trump toady.

Free Republic. Freepers.

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teleskiguy  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:09:16am

re: #125 Decatur Deb

I lurk Freep at least once a day.

They still using HTML script from 1994?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:10:47am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I came here for a good argument back when the place was a lot more conservative, around 2007. But at least they used rhetorical structures and not just shouting and personal attacks.

Didn’t have time to do the fun Intertubes until I retired. I set out then to do an ethnography of online tribes. I rank-ordered them from RW to LW, and LGF ranked next to Freep. When we ‘evolved’, I registered.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:11:47am

re: #128 Decatur Deb

Free Republic. Freepers.

They’re on a military guys who are speaking out are all libtards/chucks/shills/etc. tear. They are totally in the thrall of the orange shit-goblin’s propaganda.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:12:02am

re: #129 teleskiguy

They still using HTML script from 1994?

Never detected any change. Not in typography or attitude.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:13:12am

re: #129 teleskiguy

They still using HTML script from 1994?

Why yes, yes they are. Fixed width, too so I can’t resize the screen properly on my iPad.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:21:21am

For the thread topic: Auden described us in 1947:

“We would rather be ruined than changed
We would rather die in our dread
Than climb the cross of the moment
And let our illusions die.”

―The Age of Anxiety: A Baroque Eclogue

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:23:56am

re: #131 Colère Tueur de Lapin

They’re on a military guys who are speaking out are all libtards/chucks/shills/etc. tear. They are totally in the thrall of the orange shit-goblin’s propaganda.

Existential sunk cost fallacy: you go deeper into the unreality, invent new criteria for why other people are wrong (immoral) and wrong (incorrect), or you sit with the possibility you’re full of shit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:24:44am

re: #134 Decatur Deb

For the thread topic: Auden described us in 1947:

―The Age of Anxiety: A Baroque Eclogue

I like the German saying

Besser ein shreckliches Ende als ein Schrecken ohne Ende

“A terrible end is better than terror without end”.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:24:44am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Tucker Carlson has already warned us that if we start “persecuting” police for “doing their job”, they will all quit and abandon us to Mau-Mau rape gangs invading our neighborhoods…

he might be right
otoh, we should prosecute police when they don’t do their job

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:26:00am

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

That whole thread, all the responses, every last one, needs to be read.

As someone who’s 61 I can honestly say I didn’t think about how much has changed for the worse since I was in school (and this doesn’t even include Active Shooters). We’ve gone from Officer Friendly to Major Shitkicker Do As I Say … and we all put up with it.

And as a white woman, my privilege had never been clearer. Man.

No wonder so many people accept the authoritarian worldview. We’ve slowly been accustomed to it.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:26:57am

re: #135 The Ghost of a Flea

Existential sunk cost fallacy: you go deeper into the unreality, invent new criteria for why other people are wrong (immoral) and wrong (incorrect), or you sit with the possibility you’re full of shit.

“Little capacity for introspection.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:27:16am

re: #137 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

he might be right
otoh, we should prosecute police when they don’t do their job

that is just the point, he sees no distinction.

He insists that police will quit en masse if we start making them more responsible for their actions.

There was a terribly misleading headline that the entire Buffalo NY terror response team resigned after two of its officers were suspended for brutality.

But there are always nuances: the 57 officers did not quit the Police Force, the just resigned from the response team…

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A Mom Anon  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:27:33am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What the hell? They’re digging back to Weather Underground now? Holy shit. Back to Bill Ayers and all that bullshit? TWU hasn’t been a thing since before I graduated high school. In 1978. People need to just point and laugh at this fucking stupid shit.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:29:33am

re: #141 A Mom Anon

What the hell? They’re digging back to Weather Underground now? Holy shit. Back to Bill Ayers and all that bullshit? TWU hasn’t been a thing since before I graduated high school. In 1978. People need to just point and laugh at this fucking stupid shit.

Blowing the front off their West Village brownstone sort of took the wind out of them.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:33:09am

re: #141 A Mom Anon

What the hell? They’re digging back to Weather Underground now? Holy shit. Back to Bill Ayers and all that bullshit? TWU hasn’t been a thing since before I graduated high school. In 1978. People need to just point and laugh at this fucking stupid shit.

Let’s call FNC for what they are. A bunch of sheltered right wing cowards.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:33:14am

re: #141 A Mom Anon

What the hell? They’re digging back to Weather Underground now? Holy shit. Back to Bill Ayers and all that bullshit? TWU hasn’t been a thing since before I graduated high school. In 1978. People need to just point and laugh at this fucking stupid shit.

Like I said earlier, next they’ll bring up the SLA.

Had to go read up on that….I didn’t know there were allegations that SLA head Donald DeFreeze (aka Field Marshal Cinque) was an LAPD informant.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:34:17am

re: #134 Decatur Deb

For the thread topic: Auden described us in 1947:

―The Age of Anxiety: A Baroque Eclogue

Auden is too good for the moment.

This is more like John List’s domestic situation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:34:48am

So the latest FB rants are criticizing initiatives to “defund the police” in Knoxville, Minneapolis and elsewhere.

This is not about abolishing the Police Force, it is about leverage to get them to reform when nothing else works.

But it is being sold as leaving us prey to gangs of “armed young men” as Tucker Carlson menacingly refers to them.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:36:41am

re: #144 Dr Lizardo

Like I said earlier, next they’ll bring up the SLA.

Had to go read up on that….I didn’t know there were allegations that SLA head Donald DeFreeze (aka Field Marshal Cinque) was an LAPD informant.

I didn’t either. But yeah I definitely can see them pulling that. Their business model has always been fear.

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lawhawk  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:38:09am

Fuck Trump, Fuck the GOP, and fuck the mendacious media that enable their regressive and bigoted agenda.

So what’s all this nonsense about protesters actually seeking to attack and dethrone god. That’s a pretty fucking puny god you have there. Be a shame if anything happened to it.

And if it’s not that your god is so puny that it can be dethroned by people protesting police abuse, then why does it need a spaceship (literally and figuratively - Trump is the one who demanded a space force and is trying to take all the credit for having a way for Americans to travel to space on board an American-built rocket.

It’s all projecting like IMAX all the time with these people, and the body count continues to grow - not only from covid19, but the numbers of people assaulted by cops at the protests continue soaring.

Heck, the guy who gives sensitivity training to incoming cops in San Diego was assaulted by cops at one of these protests.

These protests are again revealing how poorly law enforcement does its job of actually protecting the communities they’re charged with protecting.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:39:52am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So the latest FB rants are about initiatives to “defund the police” in Knoxville, Minneapolis and elsewhere.

This is not about abolishing the Police Force, it is about leverage to get them to reform when nothing else works.

This is why I actually think having a former DA like Harris or Klobuchar or LEO like Demings could actually benefit Biden. These are women who know intimately how law enforcement works.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:40:10am

re: #145 The Ghost of a Flea

Auden is too good for the moment.

This is more like John List’s domestic situation.

Had to wiki him, and even then have the vaguest memory. If you don’t go for at least cannibalism, your fame is fleeting.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:40:56am

re: #143 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Let’s call FNC for what they are. A bunch of sheltered right wing cowards.

As noted elsewhere: too scared to go back to the office, too much of an asshole to stop telling others to go back to work.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:41:33am

re: #150 Decatur Deb

Had to wiki him, and even then have the vaguest memory. If you don’t go for at least cannibalism, your fame is fleeting.

Ted Bundy would disagree.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:41:55am

re: #148 lawhawk

Dude, I think about the line “What does God want with a starship?” all the time.

It’s turns out to be the best observation about modern belief that’s been made.

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Belafon  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:42:36am

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:44:08am

re: #151 Colère Tueur de Lapin

As noted elsewhere: too scared to go back to the office, too much of an asshole to stop telling others to go back to work.

They are what they are. A trashy news outlet owned by an elderly Australian bigot tabloid newsman who made one of architects of the GOP’s race baiting strategy the brains of the ops. No surprise either that Roger was also a sleazy asshole to women too. He’s not missed and I hope history is unkind to him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:46:29am

re: #153 The Ghost of a Flea

Dude, I think about the line “What does God want with a starship?” all the time.

It’s turns out to be the best observation about modern belief that’s been made.

And people who want to see God perform “miracles”. As if the miracle of creation, the Earth, life, the stars & cosmos were not enough to please them already?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:47:09am

re: #154 Belafon

On the new episode of Undercover Boss…

Stiff competion for the Morning’s Internet.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:52:35am

Why we don’t have to worry too much about a “coup”

89 former defense officials say they are ‘alarmed’ by Trump’s threat to use the military to end nationwide unrest

The members of our military are always ready to serve in our nation’s defense. But they must never be used to violate the rights of those they are sworn to protect,” the authors of the op-ed wrote Friday

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:55:34am

re: #158 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Why we don’t have to worry too much about a “coup”

89 former defense officials say they are ‘alarmed’ by Trump’s threat to use the military to end nationwide unrest

That is why I am all the more alarmed at Trump using prison guards and ICE agents as security forces. They have a lot less regard for the Constitution and the Chain of Command.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:57:42am

re: #119 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Cancer died of Rush Limbaugh.

Cancer cells killed the radio star…🎵

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 5:58:48am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I just drop by to check the talking points, same reason I used to read Pravda and Izvestiya, to find out the Party Line.

When I was young I used to read Cosmo for the same reason

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:06:47am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is why I am all the more alarmed at Trump using prison guards and ICE agents as security forces. They have a lot less regard for the Constitution and the Chain of Command.

Their life expectancy is measured in minutes in the face of a Longbow platoon.

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Jay C  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:06:55am

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:09:01am

re: #163 Jay C

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If you’re expecting me to main tank a fight with God, I’m going to need more than breakfast, I’m going to need to be properly drunk first.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:09:08am

re: #141 A Mom Anon

What the hell? They’re digging back to Weather Underground now? Holy shit. Back to Bill Ayers and all that bullshit? TWU hasn’t been a thing since before I graduated high school. In 1978. People need to just point and laugh at this fucking stupid shit.

Yeah but there Fox viewers are of the age where THEY remember. Fox panders to the olds who look at the world through their whiteness where blacks (and women) knew their damn place.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:15:00am

re: #161 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

When I was young I used to read Cosmo for the same reason

My mom insists that she used to read the National Enquirer only so that she knew what the other women at the Beauty Parlor were talking about.

She actually used to read books, I recall her reading Leon Uris and Solzehnitsyn for example.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:18:54am

“dethrone”?

They’re still imagining a humanoid old bearded boss in the sky

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:21:32am
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Jay C  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:25:07am

re: #168 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Key to the whole piece - the phrase “…the president had previously sold…”

At this point in time, WTF in their right mind would assume anything Donald Trump “sells” has the least validity at all?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:30:02am

re: #169 Jay C

Key to the whole piece - the phrase “…the president had previously sold…”

At this point in time, WTF in their right mind would assume anything Donald Trump “sells” has the least validity at all?

Key phrase bolded. Plenty of people take Trump at face value - but to put it bluntly, they crazy.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:32:39am

re: #168 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

WaPo turned off comments for this article. Didn’t want to deal with the inevitable shit-show that was going to happen?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:34:51am

everytime i see a question or comment like this it burns me

Joe Biden declared in a debate that he would nominate woman as VP. Did he paint himself into corner? If he had not done so, he would have a wide range of potential candidates to chose from, and could still have nominated a woman, but now his hands are forced.

this implies that, before searching, the best possible choice overall has to be a man

that by eliminating all the men and choosing the best woman still leaves us with less than whoever the best man would be

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:34:51am

re: #168 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

“…The notice of the request for information that CBP posted gives federal contractors until June 12 to suggest new anti-breaching and anti-climbing technology and tools, while also inviting proposals for “private party construction” that would allow investors and activists to acquire land, build a barrier on it and sell the whole thing to the government.”

Yet another tax-looting project from the Trump administration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:37:08am

re: #167 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

“dethrone”?

They’re still imagining a humanoid old bearded boss in the sky

God is a bearded White Man on a Throne. That is very much part of their view of how things should look on Earth as well.

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:45:19am
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A Mom Anon  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:45:21am

re: #165 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

An example of southern fear of “the other”:

My husband and I bought our home in 1977. Our son was 3. He’s 26 now. There was 18 acres of land owned by a family next door and in back of our house. Then there’s another house on the other side of me that’s a rental house. My house and the rental used to also be a part of that 18 acre family compound. Think of a rectangle with a corner missing. This family was on this land since before the Civil War, which was a point of pride for this family. Their 18 acres also had a total of 5 houses, the original home built 100 yrs ago and updated every 10 yrs or so, then the Patriarch house and homes for his three daughters and his elderly sister.

The rental house on the other side of me was home to the owner’s daughter and her 5 yr old son when we moved here. Turns out the place was a meth lab, I ended up calling Children’s services on the mom for letting her little boy run around in underwear in 30 degree weather. He was filthy and hungry. The family was white. The family compound on the other side of me didn’t really pitch much of a fit over this. The house had to be hazmat cleaned and remodeled. It’s been a rental ever since and the last two families (after a gay couple lived there for a few years) have been black, with black teenage boys.

That was a bridge to far for the family compound and they sold all that land to a developer about 3 yrs ago. I now live next to a fucking “over 55 community” with 60 huge houses on tiny plots of land. That madness ended up with us having a rat problem when the land was razed because(to no ones surprise) they had been using the wooded area behind the original house as a garbage dump. They were just dandy with a fucking white run meth lab next door but a black family with teen boys(one of whom plays some serious drums and is an honor student) was the last straw. So the idiots moved to where they have a 3 hour round trip commute to work every day. Also they made sure the buyer of their land did not approach us to make an offer and never said a word. I found out when the county put up signs for a public land use meeting and had surveyors measuring along my property line.

All because the neighborhood was getting too dark and scary. They had proud deplorable signs in their yard when Trump began that crap. They also claim to be super duper Christian. I loathe their lying asses. They are the ones that destroyed the damned neighborhood. Not a couple of really nice and cool black teenage boys. Their mama raised them right, they’re really nice kids.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:47:51am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:47:59am

re: #173 jaunte

Yet another tax-looting project from the Trump administration.

That was tailored for the one scam outfit that has built a couple hundred feet of wall at the cost of millions bilked from the unsophisticated.

en.wikipedia.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:50:07am

re: #176 A Mom Anon

I mentioned here before that I grew up in the industrial Midwest in the 60’s when it was a boom time for white folks and they were just as racist back then as ever.

“Economic anxiety” was the least part of those attitudes.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:52:33am

re: #172 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

everytime i see a question or comment like this it burns me

this implies that, before searching, the best possible choice overall has to be a man

that by eliminating all the men and choosing the best woman still leaves us with less than whoever the best man would be

I don’t think his hands are forced at all. There are a lot of qualified women being looked at. I’m glad that Biden wants to have a team that looks like the country rather than a 1950’s board meeting.

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Belafon  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:53:29am

re: #172 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

everytime i see a question or comment like this it burns me

this implies that, before searching, the best possible choice overall has to be a man

that by eliminating all the men and choosing the best woman still leaves us with less than whoever the best man would be

When James Cameron made Titanic, a producer said asked him if he was worried that he would only get half the population into the theaters. His response was something like “I wish I could get half the population.”

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Belafon  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:54:55am
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A Mom Anon  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:55:24am

re: #179 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s got zero to do with economic anything. These people had money and land. Originally they had something like 100 acres that was sold off in bits over the generations to get them through any economic issues. They were that scared that they could see black teens skateboarding or walking on the sidewalk in front of their house that they had to sell it all and move north of here to an area with all white faces. Such tough people. I heard for 20 fucking years about how that family compound was sacred and part of their history and blah blah. Yeah right sure.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 6, 2020 • 6:55:35am

re: #179 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I mentioned here before that I grew up in the industrial Midwest in the 60’s when it was a boom time for white folks and they were just as racist back then as ever.

“Economic anxiety” was the least part of those attitudes.

Indeed. The Great Society and its promise of programs to benefit everyone and not just whites people caused the collapse of the New Deal coalition. There’s no reason other than racism to go from backing enthusiastically the New Deal to embracing proponents of supply side economics.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:01:14am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:06:58am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is why I am all the more alarmed at Trump using prison guards and ICE agents as security forces. They have a lot less regard for the Constitution and the Chain of Command.

True. In the short run

But there aren’t enough of them to coup
And the actual military wouldn’t be on their side

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lawhawk  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:09:17am

re: #168 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Make it invisible and claim that it is impenetrable. That way you don’t spend a dime, you fool your base, and you can distribute all that money to your cronies without having to do any actual work. /oh… wait.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:10:26am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Michael Jordan: NBA legend to donate $100m to racial equality fight (BBC Sport)

(more)

How much is Michael Jordan donating to attack and dethrone God?

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lawhawk  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:10:56am

re: #188 BlueSpotinAL

It’s all about being seen doing more than King Lebron James.

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lawhawk  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:15:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:15:30am

re: #187 lawhawk

Make it invisible and claim that it is impenetrable. That way you don’t spend a dime, you fool your base, and you can distribute all that money to your cronies without having to do any actual work. /oh… wait.

Wall Rant Time again: If Trump had been at all serious about The Wall as anything but a symbol of US resolve to maintain our Cultural Purity, he would have convened a planning commission, which would have produced design and engineering studies, legal, economic and environmental impact reports along with a proposed budget and timetable.

We have seen nothing of the like and never will.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:17:31am

re: #189 lawhawk

It’s all about being seen doing more than King Lebron James.

Good.

‘Compete with One Another in Good Works’

Verse 5.48

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Belafon  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:17:46am

Why the cops and white supremacists need the protests to be violent:

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William Lewis  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:21:20am

Just got a call from my Deacon. There is going to be a demonstration in solidarity with George Floyd and other African-American victims and pushing for policing reform here in Hayward WI. 2000 population but demonstrating none the less.

This is more than a little amazing to me.

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Belafon  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:22:19am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:24:47am
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jaunte  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:25:53am
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BigPapa  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:26:40am

My Wife Unit has been posting more politcal stuff on FB. In the last two days, two of her apolitical friends DM’d her Candace Bigsby videos, one no comment and once asking ‘what’s your opinion on this?’ Wife Unit asks me ‘Who is Candace Owens?’ and I’m like ‘Black White Nationalist, how much time do you have?’

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:30:36am

Lre: #190 lawhawk

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And you dishonor their memory and sacrifices daily, Mother’s husband.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:31:56am
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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:36:12am

A blogger who is expert at analyzing and displaying data, on the rise of Covid-19 in the rural Southern states:

tamino.wordpress.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:38:28am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:41:33am

re: #202 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Hashtag true.

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sagehen  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:45:25am

re: #168 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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And it’s such an easy question.

The border wall, the Berlin Wall, the Great Wall of China, Israel’s wall…

They’re all exactly as useful as the living human beings on duty at the site.

The wall slows down the people trying to go over/under/through, so people guarding it have plenty of time to respond and defend.

An unguarded wall is worth nothing.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:46:16am

re: #201 BlueSpotinAL

I’m scared to death. I live in a county next to Atlanta/Fulton. People here are pretty much back to normal, acting like nothing is wrong. I’d say less than half are wearing masks and social distancing now. There’s going to be an uptick in cases from memorial weekend and with July 4th being on a Saturday this year, it means a whole weekend of parties and shopping and all that shit, so by the end of August it’s going to get really ugly. We’re staying home as much as possible. My son’s job is delaying their original reopening day, 6/8 , indefinitely. I look for him to lose his job soon honestly. Warehouse work, 90 percent of his coworkers are POC.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:53:05am

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:56:02am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 6, 2020 • 7:57:16am

re: #207 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Anne is one of my favorite columnists. Will definitely read.

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2020 • 8:02:04am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 6, 2020 • 8:08:55am

Idiot

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 6, 2020 • 8:27:57am

re: #117 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 8:32:06am

re: #204 sagehen

And it’s such an easy question.

The border wall, the Berlin Wall, the Great Wall of China, Israel’s wall…

They’re all exactly as useful as the living human beings on duty at the site.

The wall slows down the people trying to go over/under/through, so people guarding it have plenty of time to respond and defend.

An unguarded wall is worth nothing.

unless you won the contract to build it

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nines09  Jun 6, 2020 • 8:32:55am

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 6, 2020 • 8:58:39am

re: #141 A Mom Anon

What the hell? They’re digging back to Weather Underground now? Holy shit. Back to Bill Ayers and all that bullshit? TWU hasn’t been a thing since before I graduated high school. In 1978. People need to just point and laugh at this fucking stupid shit.

Sounds like the Pajamasphere between 2002-2008.

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Belafon  Jun 6, 2020 • 8:58:46am

Interesting, the real reason those 57 ERT officers stepped down:

“In light of this, in order to maintain the sound financial structure of the (Buffalo Police Benevolent Association) PBA it will be my opinion the PBA NOT to pay for any ERT or SWAT members legal defense related to these protests going forward. This Admin in conjunction with DA John Flynn and or JP Kennedy could put a serious dent in the PBA’s funds.”

The head of the PBA fibbed, saying they resigned in disgust, but really it’s because the PBA stopped backing them.

wkbw.com

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gwangung  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:01:00am

re: #215 Belafon

Interesting, the real reason those 57 ERT officers stepped down:

The head of the PBA fibbed, saying they resigned in disgust, but really it’s because the PBA stopped backing them.

wkbw.com

As Dave Anderson at balloon juice points out, this is a pressure point that can be used to get real reform. Financial leverage is real power.

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:02:11am
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Mike Lamb  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:07:48am

re: #168 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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He was talking about the wall around the White House.

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nines09  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:09:39am

Cooper nose art

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Teddy's Person  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:09:43am

re: #180 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I don’t think his hands are forced at all. There are a lot of qualified women being looked at. I’m glad that Biden wants to have a team that looks like the country rather than a 1950’s board meeting.

When Justin Trudeau became Prime Minster, a reporter asked him why half his cabinet were women. Without missing a beat, he said because it’s 2015 (or what every the specific year). This shit should not be controversial.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:12:34am

re: #216 gwangung

As Dave Anderson at balloon juice points out, this is a pressure point that can be used to get real reform. Financial leverage is real power.

Actually, one of the worst things about all this police brutality is that the people they’re attacking are paying them. Something we shouldn’t forget.

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:14:13am
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jaunte  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:15:20am
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gwangung  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:15:36am

re: #221 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Actually, one of the worst things about all this police brutality is that the people they’re attacking are paying them. Something we shouldn’t forget.

These are points that can be combined. “OUR tax dollars are going to this? Ever increasing insurance payments? And you’re not doing SIMPLE THINGS that could lower them? Explain.”

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wrenchwench  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:17:34am
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jaunte  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:17:44am

Android quoting Joseph Campbell alert.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:19:14am

re: #223 jaunte

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The pain after my nose job was really character building.

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:20:00am

re: #227 Teddy’s Person

Getting caught stealing shoe designs almost caused a brow furrow.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:24:19am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:25:23am

From downstairs:
re: #161 Dread Pirate

This chart is a perfect illustration of the maxim popularized by Mark Twain: There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Even if accurate (numbers are apparently not correct — but the same issue applies if they were), the chart is deceptive and highly misleading. As labeled, it shows the change in employment over the month , but that representation fails to capture what is really happening to the economy. The change may matter, but what’s really important is the actual level of unemployment. A meaningful chart would have shown the unemployment rate. It’s a warning to all to be careful in reading any chart and think about what it displays. This chart was deliberately and maliciously designed to conceal what was really happening. Rather like the Georgia chart that misrepresented the trend in Covid cases.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:27:57am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A bullshyte FOX text graphic has “Attack and Dethrone God” trending on Twitter. (really?)

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God better be building a wall. Maybe he can get satan to pay for it.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:29:18am

The man is a menace.

GUILFORD, Maine — President Donald Trump visited Maine on Friday and toured the Puritan Medical Products facility in Guilford. It was a big day for the small town, and for one of Maine’s oldest businesses.

Trump toured the production line wearing no mask or protective gear and even put a swab near his nose.

“I shouldn’t tell you this, but I use it every other day,” Trump later admitted to the workers during his speech.

According to USA Today, the company will ultimately be throwing out the swabs that were being manufactured during his visit. The exact reason or how many is unclear at this time.

Puritan is considered one of the top manufacturing companies in the world making specialized testing nasal swabs for COVID-19. Maine and the rest of the U.S. are facing a shortage of testing supplies. Source: NBC News Center Maine

Oh, they know why.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:29:52am

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Donny has found his black I guess.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:29:57am

re: #229 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

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He does ignoring his Dad did all he could to help make Colin Kaepernick unemployed.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:33:52am

NBC

More than 280 retired diplomats, generals and senior national security officials on Friday called on Trump not to use the U.S. military for political ends, warning American democracy was at risk.”

“As former American ambassadors, generals and admirals, and senior federal officials, we are alarmed by calls from the President and some political leaders for the use of U.S. military personnel to end legitimate protests in cities and towns across America.”

“We are concerned about the use of U.S. military assets to intimidate and break up peaceful protestors in Washington, D.C. Using the rotor wash of helicopters flying at low altitude to disperse protestors is reckless and unnecessary”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:35:03am

re: #232 Teddy’s Person

Heartless, gutless, worthless, useless, selfish bastard.

Did I miss anything?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:35:48am

re: #230 Hecuba’s daughter

From downstairs:

This chart is a perfect illustration of the maxim popularized by Mark Twain: There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Even if accurate (numbers are apparently not correct — but the same issue applies if they were), the chart is deceptive and highly misleading. As labeled, it shows the change in employment over the month , but that representation fails to capture what is really happening to the economy. The change may matter, but what’s really important is the actual level of unemployment. A meaningful chart would have shown the unemployment rate. It’s a warning to all to be careful in reading any chart and think about what it displays. This chart was deliberately and maliciously designed to conceal what was really happening. Rather like the Georgia chart that misrepresented the trend in Covid cases.

Wapo

The special note said that if this ‘misclassification error’ had not occurred, the ‘overall unemployment rate would have been about 3 percentage points higher than reported,’ meaning the unemployment rate would be about 16.3 percent for May, but that would still be an improvement from an unemployment rate of more than 19 percent for April, applying the same standards.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:36:08am

re: #28 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, anybody younger than 50 really only knows Weather Underground as either that weather news service or the program that runs nightly on the Weather Channel.

What, did Faux get tired of Saul Alinsky already?

The Weather Underground died 5 years after Alinsky (1972) — And when Fox was ranting about Alinsky 12+ years ago, very few people even know who he was. The old Weather Underground is familiar only to elderly like me. A lot of these ancient tropes have no impact on the younger generations because they are totally unfamiliar with the groups and people involved.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:39:30am

re: #229 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

“a disease”

“Social Justice Warrior” is one of the most derogatory terms they can whip on you…

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:40:19am
We saw the president direct violence against peaceful protesters this week, and seen the president lie to the country nearly 20,000 times. We’ve seen the president divide the country and incite violence.”

“And we’ve seen a level of ineptitude in this historic pandemic that defied description, but included standing in front of the nation when tens of thousands are dead, talking about his ratings or telling the American people that it is a good idea to ingest household disinfectants.”

“We’ve seen a president preside over the shattering of an economy. We have seen a president race-bait, demean, disgrace his office, to desecrate the bonds of affection that exist between us as Americans.”

“He has completely, utterly failed in the execution of his duties,” said Schmidt. “He has attacked our institutions. He has no fondness for liberal democracy. He doesn’t understand the American ideal and idea. And the notion that you would struggle with the question of four more years of this or President Joe Biden is extraordinary to me. I can’t fathom it. I can’t process it.”

Steve schmidt

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:41:03am

re: #238 Hecuba’s daughter

The Weather Underground died 5 years after Alinsky (1972) — And when Fox was ranting about Alinsky 12+ years ago, very few people even know who he was. The old Weather Underground is familiar only to elderly like me. A lot of these ancient tropes have no impact on the younger generations because they are totally unfamiliar with the groups and people involved.

He was a sinister Jewish-sounding name that was brought into connection with Obama to “prove” that Obama was also a dangerous leftist Manchurian candidate.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:43:46am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Social Justice Warrior” is one of the most derogatory terms they can whip on you…

Let them. My answer is better to be for justice than anarchy and violent oppression.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:44:15am

re: #223 jaunte

Well then, if she ends up in the slammer after all of this, she’ll find that “discomfort and uncertainty” an excellent opportunity for personal growth.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:46:37am

You may have already seen the end of this video but here’s the whole interview and I highly recommended watching it all. It’s not very long.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:48:15am

Re that video from yesterday

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:48:32am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was a sinister Jewish-sounding name that was brought into connection with Obama to “prove” that Obama was also a dangerous leftist Manchurian candidate.

Do many under age 50 understand or are even familiar with the term “Manchurian candidate”? Of course, if anyone is a Manchurian candidate, it’s Trump.

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garzooma  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:53:51am

re: #158 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Why we don’t have to worry too much about a “coup”

89 former defense officials say they are ‘alarmed’ by Trump’s threat to use the military to end nationwide unrest

It looks like it’s having an effect. A Morning Consult poll 5/31-6/1 showed 55% in favor of calling in the military. A 6/3-6/5 poll shows only 42%.

Apparently, they didn’t ask about bringing in Hessians.

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sagehen  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:58:30am

re: #246 Hecuba’s daughter

Do many under age 50 understand or are even familiar with the term “Manchurian candidate”? Of course, if anyone is a Manchurian candidate, it’s Trump.

The original movie (1962, Frank Sinatra, Lawrence Harvey, Angela Lansbury) probably hasn’t been seen by the under-40’s.

But the 2004 remake (Denzel Washington, Liev Shreiber, Meryl Streep) did pretty good box office and was nominated for a bunch of Golden Globes.

ETA: and seasons 1-3 of Homeland drew heavily from it.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2020 • 9:59:50am

In honor of June 6, 1944 Operation Overlord I will be calling the event by its operational name and not what everyone else calls it. The Normandy Invasion was called Operation Neptune.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:00:19am

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Heartless, gutless, worthless, useless, selfish bastard.

Did I miss anything?

A hearty Fuck Trump.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:00:45am

re: #244 goddamnedfrank

You may have already seen the end of this video but here’s the whole interview and I highly recommended watching it all. It’s not very long.

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Very powerful and heartfelt!

But isn’t it true that many of the looters and rioters are not actually members of the community? Some are anarchists, some are white supremacists trying to disrupt peaceful gatherings, and some are just garden variety thieves taking advantage of a situation.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:05:59am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Social Justice Warrior” is one of the most derogatory terms they can whip on you…

Kind of a point of pride, no?

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BigPapa  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:06:03am

Cucker Tarlson trending on Twitter. It’s gonna be a good day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:08:04am

re: #251 Hecuba’s daughter

Very powerful and heartfelt!

But isn’t it true that many of the looters and rioters are not actually members of the community? Some are anarchists, some are white supremacists trying to disrupt peaceful gatherings, and some are just garden variety thieves taking advantage of a situation.

interspersed with some policemen out giving themselves an excuse to crack heads

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Teddy's Person  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:15:30am

Maybe Donny’s planning another photo op.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:18:12am

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I can see a possible solution for the NFL: Go back to the old system.

That said, it’s probably like trying to not wear a flag pin as a politician now. Once Reagan started that, any politician not wearing one was seen as unpatriotic by wingnuts.

I was once asked in a village board meeting why I didn’t wear one, my answer was “I don’t wear my patriotism on my lapel.”

As George Carlin said, symbols for the symbol minded.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:18:29am
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lizardofid  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:20:45am

re: #255 Teddy’s Person

Maybe Donny’s planning another photo op.

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I see your BLM painted on the street, and raise you snipers on the roof!

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Belafon  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:22:38am

re: #229 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Betty Cracker called her Princess PowerPoint.

balloon-juice.com

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:23:36am

re: #106 Jebediah, RBG

Her cousin Olestra is not nearly as much fun.

Never comes out of the bathroom

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:24:15am

He saved us from The Martians.

Now if he could only save us from Republicans…

Slim Whitman - Indian Love Call 1952

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Belafon  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:28:06am

I think Trump’s policies were about to tank the economy. The one thing helping him is he can blame it on something else and it’s somewhat believable.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:29:00am

re: #261 Joe Bacon 🌹

He saved us from The Martians.

Now if he could only save us from Republicans…

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Well, I mean, has anyone tried seeing what happens to Republicans when they’re exposed to Slim Whitman?

Mars Attacks die aliens die

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:32:15am

With the stuff happening around the White House I’m nervous.

Trump lives for revenge and acts of disproportionate cruelty. If he gets to a mental place where he feels he has license, he’s going to do something ugly.

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Done Ben Wrote  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:34:18am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If God is on the side of the cop that killed Mr. Floyd and not on the side of the 75 year old bleeding on the street, then he needs to be dethroned.

Fuck this, lets get it done.

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:36:27am

re: #255 Teddy’s Person

Are they expecting Antifa to show up driving technicals?

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:37:30am

re: #262 Belafon

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I think Trump’s policies were a out to tank the economy. The one thing helping him is he can blame it on something else and it’s somewhat believable.

Not to worry, I’ve been assured by Berners that Joe will lose big when Trump brutally beats him in the debates.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:39:00am

When Trump is removed these fucking Pulpit Pimps need to be knocked down too…especially this fucking anti-Semite Rick Wiles!

X goes after that fucking Pulpit Pimp!

Rick Wiles Swoons Over Trump’s Bible Photo-Op

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:41:10am

re: #264 The Ghost of a Flea

With the stuff happening around the White House I’m nervous.

Trump lives for revenge and acts of disproportionate cruelty. If he gets to a mental place where he feels he has license, he’s going to do something ugly.

If Trump opens fire on demonstrators all hell will break loose and I would not be surprised to see a military coup take him out.

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retired cynic  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:43:18am

re: #244 goddamnedfrank

You may have already seen the end of this video but here’s the whole interview and I highly recommended watching it all. It’s not very long.

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Thank you. I am in tears before her righteous anger.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:45:56am

“Just a few bad apples,” my ass.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:49:18am

all three up at huffpo right now

The Police Are Targeting Protest Medics
This would be a war crime in a combat zone.

The Labor Movement Faces A Reckoning Over Police Unions
Law enforcement unions make up a small slice of the AFL-CIO, but progressive members are increasingly uncomfortable associating with them.

Buffalo Mayor Says Police Union Is ‘On The Wrong Side Of History’
The mayor said the union “pushed” dozens of officers to resign from a special unit after two were suspended after an older man was injured when shoved backward

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:52:19am

re: #272 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Buffalo Mayor Says Police Union Is ‘On The Wrong Side Of History’
The mayor said the union “pushed” dozens of officers to resign from a special unit after two were suspended after an older man was injured when shoved backward

Note that they did not quit the force, just that crime unit, but “Entire Police Squad Resigns in Protest” makes for a nifty headline

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:55:22am

OT I just got a call from Merrick Bank that I looked up on Find Who Calls You. That number has had over 100 look-ups. Please be careful if you see this number it may be a spammer.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:58:06am

re: #269 Joe Bacon 🌹

If Trump opens fire on demonstrators all hell will break loose and I would not be surprised to see a military coup take him out.

There will not be a military coup. The consequences to our nation would be catastrophic.
Of course, having snipers out there could lead to an assassination — which would be terrible too and make Trump a martyr. I do not believe that the snipers will fire on demonstrators — that would be disastrous. Let’s just hope we get through this without more violence and that Trump and his evil regime are deposed the traditional American way — through the November election. That is the only way we can survive this turmoil.

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Jay C  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:58:08am

re: #267 Targetpractice

Not to worry, I’ve been assured by Berners that Joe will lose big when Trump brutally beats him in the debates.

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Yeah, well fuck the Bernouts in any case.

However, even if Trump does agree to any televised debates with Biden, you do know that it is going to be a shitshow of shitshows no matter what.

Because you know that NO MATTER WHAT Trump does at the debate - he could sit on the floor pissing his pants for 20 minutes - Fox, OAN, and every RW hate-talker in the country will be gushing rhetorical orgasms about how “TRUMP WON!!”, “JOE GOT OWNED!!!” and “THIS PUTS IT AWAY”!!! , and never mind what it actually looks like. And the “MSM”, of course, will likely equivocate and “bothsides” anything short of said piss-a-thon….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2020 • 10:58:17am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:00:42am

re: #275 Hecuba’s daughter

There will not be a military coup. The consequences to our nation would be catastrophic.
Of course, having snipers out there could lead to an assassination — which would be terrible too and make Trump a martyr. I do not believe that the snipers will fire on demonstrators — that would be disastrous. Let’s just hope we get through this without more violence and that Trump and his evil regime are deposed the traditional American way — through the November election. That is the only way we can survive this turmoil,

Has any president since say 1900 felt personally threatened by demonstrators in DC?

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John Hughes  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:01:02am

re: #201 BlueSpotinAL

A blogger who is expert at analyzing and displaying data, on the rise of Covid-19 in the rural Southern states:

tamino.wordpress.com

That isn’t “a blogger”. That is Tamino, from Open Minds, the best explainer of statistics on the web, the man who almost single-handedly destroyed Watts up With That.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:02:24am

CNN

Zugzwanged

Trump may shoot himself in the foot with a split-city GOP convention

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John Hughes  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:03:25am

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes. The YMCA where I work out is used by a bunch of cops who openly talk about their steroid use. Amazing to see them preen in front of the mirrors thinking they are Mr. Olympia

Some of my best friends are gay (yeah, yeah, I know) but frankly, how gay is that?

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gwangung  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:03:47am

re: #280 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

CNN

Zugzwanged

Trump may shoot himself in the foot with a split-city GOP convention

Does he have any toes left now?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:04:32am

re: #276 Jay C

Yeah, well fuck the Bernouts in any case.

However, even if Trump does agree to any televised debates with Biden, you do know that it is going to be a shitshow of shitshows no matter what.

Because you know that NO MATTER WHAT Trump does at the debate - he could sit on the floor pissing his pants for 20 minutes - Fox, OAN, and every RW hate-talker in the country will be gushing rhetorical orgasms about how “TRUMP WON!!”, “JOE GOT OWNED!!!” and “THIS PUTS IT AWAY”!!! , and never mind what it actually looks like. And the “MSM”, of course, will likely equivocate and “bothsides” anything short of said piss-a-thon….

It won’t move the needle enough.
No one’s switching sides

As things stand right now, trump could take all the truly undecideds and he’d still lose

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:05:24am

re: #278 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Has any president since say 1900 felt personally threatened by demonstrators in DC?

How about the Bonus Army demonstration in 1932? Several demonstrators were shot and killed.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:06:38am

Welp, I guess Atrios is never going to be my friend, but that’s OK. Fuck him.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:09:15am

re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter

How about the Bonus Army demonstration in 1932? Several demonstrators were shot and killed.

Thx

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Teddy's Person  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:10:24am

I hope the k-pop folks have heard about this.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:11:49am

re: #285 Charles Johnson

Apparently you have not covered yourself in ashes and sackcloth and whipped yourself with switches in public nearly enough Charles. JFC. This kind of crap is why it’s so hard to build lasting coalitions and bridge gaps to create lasting change. Makes me want to smack people.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:12:42am

re: #287 Teddy’s Person

I hope the k-pop folks have heard about this.

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Clicked on the link. They’ll be showing Trump the first 500 tonight. So glad POTUS has time in his schedule to watch videos from randos. It’s not like we have a health crisis, police brutality crisis and economic crises that need some attention.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:14:15am

Asshole just retweeted his own tweet trashing the Mayor of D.C.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:14:30am

re: #289 Teddy’s Person

I do not want to wish him anything.

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gwangung  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:14:39am

re: #288 A Mom Anon

Apparently you have not covered yourself in ashes and sackcloth and whipped yourself with switches in public nearly enough Charles. JFC. This kind of crap is why it’s so hard to build lasting coalitions and bridge gaps to create lasting change. Makes me want to smack people.

Yeah, the lack of forgiveness from liberals and progressives is a problem.

Consider people warily? Sure
Expect A TON of redemption behavior? Absolutely.

But this binary thinking, never allowing a converted foe into the tent is crap. It’s the same behavior as the other side. And we’re better than that.

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John Hughes  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:14:42am

re: #215 Belafon

Interesting, the real reason those 57 ERT officers stepped down:

The head of the PBA fibbed, saying they resigned in disgust, but really it’s because the PBA stopped backing them.

wkbw.com

So, two competing thoughts here.

From the point of view of the people responsible for Buffalo police: They don’t want to be on the “tactical squad” or whatever bullshit it’s called, sack ‘em. Their union has abandoned them.

From the point of view of Buffalo police officers: You need a new union. May I suggest the IWW? One Big Union! One Big Strike!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:15:49am

re: #285 Charles Johnson

Welp, I guess Atrios is never going to be my friend, but that’s OK. Fuck him.

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At least Greg Greene seems to like you.

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John Hughes  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:17:26am

re: #223 jaunte

Ivanka Trump: “I’ve found that my greatest personal growth has arisen from times of discomfort and uncertainty.”

Like when her father posed for photos that implied he was sexually abusing her?

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retired cynic  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:19:03am

re: #285 Charles Johnson

Welp, I guess Atrios is never going to be my friend, but that’s OK. Fuck him.

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Good grief!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:19:23am

re: #293 John Hughes

So, two competing thoughts here.

From the point of view of the people responsible for Buffalo police: They don’t want to be on the “tactical squad” or whatever bullshit it’s called, sack ‘em. Their union has abandoned them.

From the point of view of Buffalo police officers: You need a new union. May I suggest the IWW? One Big Union! One Big Strike!

Have mentioned this previously. My cousin, Arthur Weinberg, was the president of the IWW in the 1930’s.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:20:19am

re: #293 John Hughes

So, two competing thoughts here.

From the point of view of the people responsible for Buffalo police: They don’t want to be on the “tactical squad” or whatever bullshit it’s called, sack ‘em. Their union has abandoned them.

From the point of view of Buffalo police officers: You need a new union. May I suggest the IWW? One Big Union! One Big Strike!

Nah, the union hasn’t abandoned them, but is threatening to withhold certain benefits (namely legal protection) if they don’t make a big public scene in “protest.” From the video of the shitheels cheering at the courthouse, I don’t get the feeling it was a hard choice for them to make.

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John Hughes  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:21:55am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Social Justice Warrior” is one of the most derogatory terms they can whip on you…

Antisocial Injustice Coward is so much better.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:22:17am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:30:27am

Bowser is on TV speaking to people at the protest in DC.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:30:32am
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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:34:08am

re: #302 Charles Johnson

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The biggest issue: A lot of businesses that received PPP loans have to rehire their staff in order to qualify for loan forgiveness. While the self-owned and franchise locations might try to power through the rest of the year, you’re going to see another round of lay-offs as soon as the paperwork to forgive those loans is processed.

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John Hughes  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:37:03am

re: #249 PhillyPretzel

In honor of June 6, 1944 Operation Overlord I will be calling the event by its operational name and not what everyone else calls it. The Normandy Invasion was called Operation Neptune.

The most important operation ANTIFA ever made.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:40:42am

re: #302 Charles Johnson

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THE ECONOMY IS RECOVERING, WE DON’T NEED TO PAY YOU LAZY LAYABOUTS, GET BACK TO WORK

And despite the fact that Minnesota is entering “phase 3” of its “Stay Safe MN” program, which introduces indoor dining and most businesses (such as salons and gyms) at 50% capacity / maximum 250 people, the toothless state GOP is still trying to castigate Governor Walz and strip his emergency powers so we can forcibly reopen. I don’t understand what these people want, I mean, we’re making progress reopening the economy and we’re doing SO WELL controlling the pandemic… Oh, wait, that’s right - they want us all to die horribly so they can prove their worth to the Dear Leader and make Minnesota Republican.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:41:00am

Hypochlorosis antipha

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John Hughes  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:41:32am

re: #251 Hecuba’s daughter

But isn’t it true that many of the looters and rioters are not actually members of the community? Some are anarchists, some are white supremacists trying to disrupt peaceful gatherings, and some are just garden variety thieves taking advantage of a situation.

Probably not. Some are obviously from outside, but blaming all disorder on “outside forces” is a great way of avoiding looking at reality. And since when are “garden variety thieves” not “members of the community”. Do people have to be saints to be gain sympathy?

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John Hughes  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:45:05am

re: #255 Teddy’s Person

Shitty opsec. But maybe that’s the point.

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John Hughes  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:50:49am

re: #297 Hecuba’s daughter

Have mentioned this previously. My cousin, Arthur Weinberg, was the president of the IWW in the 1930’s.

Everything I learnt about the IWW comes from Dashiel Hammet’s Red Harvest.

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sagehen  Jun 6, 2020 • 11:58:12am

re: #251 Hecuba’s daughter

But isn’t it true that many of the looters and rioters are not actually members of the community? Some are anarchists, some are white supremacists trying to disrupt peaceful gatherings, and some are just garden variety thieves taking advantage of a situation.

In 2016 CA election, Trump got 31%. That’s more than 4 million people.

Even in the most liberal of liberal cities, you don’t have to travel hundreds of miles to find right-wingers. They’re vastly outnumbered in liberal places, but they’re not far away.

(Stephen Miller is from the People’s Republic of Santa Monica. He may have lived in the same zip code as Tom Hadyn).

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stpaulbear  Jun 6, 2020 • 12:04:04pm

re: #232 Teddy’s Person

The man is a menace.

Oh, they know why.

You’d think by now that these companies would do everything they can to isolate their product when Trump visits. He won’t be able to tell (or even care about) the difference anyway. They could bring in boxes of out-of-date or defective products that were slated for dumping anyway.

Any company that invites Trump should know that they have to do this if they don’t want to wreck production.


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