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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:38:38am

GOTV The polls are opening now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:44:39am

Trump didn’t write this:

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Kilroy was here  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:48:29am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:48:49am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:52:56am

re: #3 Kilroy was here

NSFW

OK, we’ll call the Pennsylvania guy “Uncommitted”. He still might write-in the tomato can.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:53:19am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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It’s all about entertainment to him. Governance is a distant last. For Biden, it’s the opposite.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:53:22am
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nines09  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:55:13am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

And in 2019 a virus was discovered that rapidly spread around the world, and the POTUS was told exactly how deadly it was and that it was airborne.
He decided to tell his citizens it was no big deal, and stigmatized those who wore marks as somehow bad people.
To date over 190,000 Americans are dead, with more to die and over 6 Million were infected and no one knows when it will end.
The economy is trashed, millions have lost jobs and business and the Party Of Donald Trump lines their pockets as they continue to try and strip affordable healthcare from people, and destroy Social Security.
We will never forget.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:55:54am
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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:01:42am

re: #6 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s all about entertainment to him. Governance is a distant last. For Biden, it’s the opposite.

Public service versus self serving

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:03:26am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:03:45am

re: #10 dangerman

Public service versus self serving

Exactly and my hope is people will instantly see the difference between the two.

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makeitstop  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:05:02am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump didn’t write this:

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‘Patriot Day?’

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:07:52am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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We’re still a couple of weeks away from Yom Kippur, but I think most of the Jewish contingent here at LGF would recognize this as being very much in the spirit of the season.

Would that more of us could search deeply into the ways we’ve wronged others and repent as sincerely.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:09:27am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I’m with you Charles. I too fell into the trap of developing a strong hatred of “those people” after 9/11, even though I knew none of the ones I saw walking around had anything to do with the attacks. I never openly lashed out at anyone, but I do remember not good thoughts coming into my head every time I boarded a plane and noticed someone who appeared Middle Eastern on it.

Thankfully, I never fell down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole or became a truther.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:09:48am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I’m glad your heart opened up and you found compassion and empathy to walk away from that hot mess. I appreciate this place a lot more than I say, so Thank You Charles, we might be a group of goofy fucks, but we’re good people. I see and have been on the receiving end of so much kindness here, I think you have done more good than you know these last few years.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:11:10am

re: #13 makeitstop

It’s named that on every calendar I’ve had for the last decade at least. And yes, I buy paper calendars, getoffamahlawn,etc and so on…

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lizardofid  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:12:19am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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Post 911 our whole country was in need of some collective ptsd counseling.

Edit to add, I’m not in any way trying to excuse my own poor reaction.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:13:41am

Lre: #18 lizardofid

Post 911 our whole country was in need of some collective ptsd counseling.

We’re gonna need it after Covid.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:15:54am

Wanted to add: 9/11 happened about a month after my 20th birthday so I was still a very impressionable young man back then, so it wasn’t a big stretch for me to fall in to hating Muslims. I’ve long since abandoned such silly, black and white views.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:17:41am

I was naive after 9/11 in a different way. I was skeptical about all interventions. Obviously I still think Iraq was a huge mistake but the mistake was going into Afghanistan and then going into Iraq and ignoring the Afghan theater.

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makeitstop  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:19:14am

re: #17 A Mom Anon

It’s named that on every calendar I’ve had for the last decade at least. And yes, I buy paper calendars, getoffamahlawn,etc and so on…

Ya learn something new every day! I never knew they named it.

We buy paper calendars, too - it’s a good way to keep a record of what we do in a given year, shows, day trips, etc. This year’s, needless to say, is a lot less crowded than the past few years.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:20:18am

Lucky me, I had spent 15 years in a university town and interacted with middle-easterners of all stripes before 9/11 happened. So they were (varied) people to me, and I was never tempted to make a category of them.

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:20:54am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

my guess is that it is like the Israel/UAE “deal” in that all these things were happening via back channels for decades and are just now being brought into the light.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:21:48am

The census is not going well. In Alabama, it’s going least-well of all. Of course.

‘A Brush with Catastrophe’: Inside the 2020 Census Meltdown

politico.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:22:32am

9/11 really opened my eyes to the way the world perceived the U.S. Before that, I kind of thought most countries absolutely loved us. Man was I ever naive…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:23:15am

re: #25 Decatur Deb

The census is not going well. In Alabama, it’s going least-well of all. Of course.

‘A Brush with Catastrophe’: Inside the 2020 Census Meltdown

politico.com

So, like what happens if the 2020 Census never gets finished?

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:23:21am

re: #24 KGxvi

my guess is that it is like the Israel/UAE “deal” in that all these things were happening via back channels for decades and are just now being brought into the light.

I think it was more that UAE and Bahrain wanted access to Israel’s military gear (and US gear), and that greased the wheels. They’re both more concerned about Iran than the Israelis.

Israel never posed a threat to the Arab/Muslim dominated countries. Iran was always the bigger threat, and now that Iran’s nuclear program isn’t constrained by the JCPOA when Trump abrogated the deal, the other countries are now reconciling the fact that they need to deal with Iran and that Israel isn’t the enemy they built it up to be.

I’d expect to see deals signed selling Iron Dome packages to both UAE and Bahrain in short order.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:23:30am
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Teukka  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:23:41am

I dunno what to be disappointed at, that there is such a thing as a tank silencer, or that the form factor has certain connotations…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:25:19am

re: #29 Sherlock Hound

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The Russian ops have poisoned a lot of our population with a willing assist from the GOP.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:25:23am

re: #30 Teukka

I dunno what to be disappointed at, that there is such a thing as a tank silencer, or that the form factor has certain connotations

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That was definitely done on purpose, methinks.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:26:06am

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

So, like what happens if the 2020 Census never gets finished?

It ends. They go with the garbage data. Alabama loses a LOT of Yankee money and my congressional district goes away. (Neither party is happy with any of this.)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:27:28am

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

So, like what happens if the 2020 Census never gets finished?

It will be finished; it will just be inaccurate.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:28:37am

re: #34 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It will be finished; it will just be inaccurate.

It’s gonna be the modern version of the 1890 census for genealogists.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:29:03am

re: #30 Teukka

I dunno what to be disappointed at, that there is such a thing as a tank silencer, or that the form factor has certain connotations…

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My turn to be THAT GUY. That’s not a tank, that’s a 155mm self-propelled howitzer, much bigger than any tank gun.

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A Cranky One  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:29:37am

I had a number of close Muslim friends who related horrific stories of discrimination and hate after the attacks.

A group of coworkers and I scheduled a visit to local mosque several months after the attack. . Folks there were incredibly happy to welcome us and spend time with us discussing Islam. I was sincerely touched by their reaction.

I focus on that time rather than on the attacks. I don’t need to think about or revisit the events to be motivated to prevent tragedies. But pulling together as people is the means, not the hate that triggered the tragedy in the first place.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:30:00am

For those who don’t know, the 1890 census records were wiped out in a fire. It creates a huge gap of information for researchers. My dad’s grandparents all came of age between 1880 and 1900.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:33:28am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:33:35am

re: #37 A Cranky One

I had a number of close Muslim friends who related horrific stories of discrimination and hate after the attacks.

A group of coworkers and I scheduled a visit to local mosque several months after the attack. . Folks there were incredibly happy to welcome us and spend time with us discussing Islam. I was sincerely touched by their reaction.

I focus on that time rather than on the attacks. I don’t need to think about or revisit the events to be motivated to prevent tragedies. But pulling together as people is the means, not the hate that triggered the tragedy in the first place.

I never saw it in Northern Va after 9/11 but it helped us that we had Muslim classmates from the start of grade school so it was fairly easy for us to differentiate between Al Qaeda and classmates. I even had a classmate senior year who had fought the Taliban as a teenager before coming here. He really enjoyed our US government class, taught by a US military vet.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:34:13am

A libertarian running for governor of Indiana is drawing the support of a lot of covid truthers, polling at 24%. This might make the race a bit harder for the Republican to win. Rainwater also has one area he likes government to regulate; the uterus, further helping him with GOP constituencies.
truthershttps://courierpress.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:35:54am

re: #41 NO SMOCKING GUN!

A libertarian running for governor of Indiana is drawing the support of a lot of covid truthers, polling at 24%. This might make the race a bit harder for the Republican to win. Rainwater also has one area he likes government to regulate; the uterus, further helping him with GOP constituencies.
truthershttps://courierpress.com

Yet another libertarian hypocrite.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:37:57am

My son, who has worked as a caterer, suggested making the little pies in the muffin pan instead of one big pie. It’s a little more work rolling and cutting the dough but it’s more fun to eat and the filling doesn’t run after the pie is cut because every piece is an individual serving.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:38:06am

re: #25 Decatur Deb

I had been accepted to do enumeration work for the Census back before CV19.
Orientation was put off until late June here.
I went early July boro building here.
Supposed to be 7 but 5 showed up.
Out of 5 of us, 2 were clean morons.
Long story short: Meeting went to shit as those 2 had to pick apart everything that was just explained to them. To the point of distraction.
We were then told 15 minutes before the end we were not going to be going door to door, but to “group homes”.
You can figure out what that means.
I asked who would we be dealing with, not the individuals I hope?
Oh we were assured only the “staff” would be our contacts and we would not be on personal contact with “residents”.
Then they told us there was a test to take in the book.
The book we never opened. Among all the other shit we had in a big box.
The test was about swearing in people to do our job if the “staff” didn’t get around to actually doing their job.
Huh?
And that we may be transferred and work a different county.
What?
And we were being paid less than some of the other counties around us, but we would not receive the rate in the county we might be working.
Pardon me?
I went home and looked at the test.
For 2 months paid?
Gone. Bye bye.
That was my experience, and I’m sure it’s worse elsewhere.
For under 15 bucks an hour?
No way.
My 2 cents.

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jimmyvluv4u  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:38:53am

I was in college and living at fraternity house. We had one older guy who was Muslim. I remember on September 11-12-ish he was at the house for lunch and we got up to leave at the same time, and he offered me a ride to my next class. On the way, he talked about how much crap he was getting and expected to get from all the other guys, and said something along the lines of not seeing him much around the house anymore. That was the last time I saw him.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:40:28am

From the last thread,

The “doc” that supposedly claimed to treat ebola patients and was claiming masks weren’t necessary?

Don’t think he’s a doc, or even a sentient being. He claims to be a brain surgeon, which isn’t the kind of doctor who’d be treating ebola patients. His twitter feed is chock full of Trumpist bulkshit on a stick.

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lizardofid  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:40:53am

re: #43 The Pie Overlord!

My son, who has worked as a caterer, suggested making the little pies in the muffin pan instead of one big pie. It’s a little more work rolling and cutting the dough but it’s more fun to eat and the filling doesn’t run after the pie is cut because every piece is an individual serving.

My better half does little pecan pies during the holidays. The kids always take lot’s home with leftovers. ; )

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:42:44am

re: #44 nines09

I had been accepted to do enumeration work for the Census back before CV19.
Orientation was put off until late June here.
I went early July boro building here.
Supposed to be 7 but 5 showed up.
Out of 5 of us, 2 were clean morons.
Long story short: Meeting went to shit as those 2 had to pick apart everything that was just explained to them. To the point of distraction.
We were then told 15 minutes before the end we were not going to be going door to door, but to “group homes”.
You can figure out what that means.
I asked who would we be dealing with, the individuals I hope?
Oh we were assured only the “staff” would be our contacts and we would not be on personal contact with “residents”.
Then they told us there was a test to take in the book.
The book we never opened. Among all the other shit we had in a big box.
The test was about swearing in people to do our job if the “staff” didn’t get around to actually doing their job.
Huh?
And that we may be transferred and work a different county.
What?
And we were being paid less than some of the other counties around us, but we would not receive the rate in the county we might be working.
Pardon me?
I went home and looked at the test.
For 2 months paid?
Gone. Bye bye.
That was my experience, and I’m sure it’s worse elsewhere.
For under 15 bucks an hour?
No way.
My 2 cents.

Some of our County Dem friends were recruited to be checkers, and the money looked good to them. Last I heard, the bug threw the whole thing into disarray. The state League of Women Voters has support as one of its priority items, but no action beyond best wishes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:43:21am

until 9/11 most americans knew or cared very little about islam. within weeks, they were all experts on the topic of jihad and taqqiyah

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:44:19am
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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:48:52am

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

until 9/11 most americans knew or cared very little about islam. within weeks, they were all experts on the topic of jihad and taqqiyah

No different than everyone getting their Twitter JD degrees to debate con law or their MDs and PhDs in epidemiology and public health from Trump U to debate masking mandates and social distancing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:50:15am

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

until 9/11 most americans knew or cared very little about islam. within weeks, they were all experts on the topic of jihad and taqqiyah

I’m more of a vodka man, myself.

Oh wait…

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:50:24am

re: #38 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

For those who don’t know, the 1890 census records were wiped out in a fire. It creates a huge gap of information for researchers. My dad’s grandparents all came of age between 1880 and 1900.

The bright side is that the census is no longer a once a decade thing. The Census Bureau operates year round every year, so if the data is complete trash, we will know based off of estimates they’ve done between 2010 and now.

How that gets fixed, is another story.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:50:44am

re: #51 lawhawk

No different than everyone getting their Twitter JD degrees to debate con law or their MDs and PhDs in epidemiology and public health from Trump U to debate masking mandates and social distancing.

Yes, I remember all the self proclaimed Islam experts that we saw after 9/11.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:51:53am

re: #43 The Pie Overlord!

My son, who has worked as a caterer, suggested making the little pies in the muffin pan instead of one big pie. It’s a little more work rolling and cutting the dough but it’s more fun to eat and the filling doesn’t run after the pie is cut because every piece is an individual serving.

did you adjust the bake time?

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:53:16am

re: #46 lawhawk

From the last thread,

The “doc” that supposedly claimed to treat ebola patients and was claiming masks weren’t necessary?

Don’t think he’s a doc, or even a sentient being. He claims to be a brain surgeon, which isn’t the kind of doctor who’d be treating ebola patients. His twitter feed is chock full of Trumpist bulkshit on a stick.

for a ‘brain surgeon’, he has a lot of free time to spend on twitter

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:55:01am

re: #54 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yes, I remember all the self proclaimed Islam experts that we saw after 9/11.

I seem to recall quite a few of them were complaining about the design of the Shanksville 9/11 memorial incorporating a crescent, and therefore that it was a secret Muslim stake to the site.

Same bunch also claimed that a local mosque would be built near Ground Zero on Park Row that would somehow tower over 1WTC (aka Freedom Tower, which is the Western Hemisphere’s tallest skyscraper).

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:56:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:56:05am

re: #57 lawhawk

I seem to recall quite a few of them were complaining about the design of the Shanksville 9/11 memorial incorporating a crescent, and therefore that it was a secret Muslim stake to the site.

Same bunch also claimed that a local mosque would be built near Ground Zero on Park Row that would somehow tower over 1WTC (aka Freedom Tower, which is the Western Hemisphere’s tallest skyscraper).

ah yes, the “Victory Mosque”

that sure rankled a lot of bignoramuses

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:56:23am

re: #41 NO SMOCKING GUN!

A libertarian running for governor of Indiana is drawing the support of a lot of covid truthers, polling at 24%. This might make the race a bit harder for the Republican to win. Rainwater also has one area he likes government to regulate; the uterus, further helping him with GOP constituencies.
truthershttps://courierpress.com

Reading that piece on him, I immediately become skeptical of any one claiming to be a libertarian who isn’t 100% pro-choice on abortion. A government small enough to fit into a uterus isn’t one that cares too much for the liberty of half the population.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:57:35am

re: #57 lawhawk

I seem to recall quite a few of them were complaining about the design of the Shanksville 9/11 memorial incorporating a crescent, and therefore that it was a secret Muslim stake to the site.

Same bunch also claimed that a local mosque would be built near Ground Zero on Park Row that would somehow tower over 1WTC (aka Freedom Tower, which is the Western Hemisphere’s tallest skyscraper).

The real ugly anti Muslim stuff I recall being in the early Obama years. Charles speaking out against it played a big role in my joining LGF and here I am 11 years later.

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A Cranky One  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:59:22am

re: #43 The Pie Overlord!

My son, who has worked as a caterer, suggested making the little pies in the muffin pan instead of one big pie. It’s a little more work rolling and cutting the dough but it’s more fun to eat and the filling doesn’t run after the pie is cut because every piece is an individual serving.

I’m assuming the reason I haven’t gotten samples yet is the USPS slowdown?

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:02:50pm
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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:05:34pm

my sister lives in NC
she was planning on coming down just when the virus hit
so we waited and waited
eventually decided she could drive, with caveats because she’ll be staying at moms (who’s 92)
minimal stops
pack your own food
gas and bathroom breaks only, with the proper precautions
just drive, drive drive.
when you get here, shower and laundry (mostly because who knows?)
then 2 weeks ago, literally 4 days before she was about to leave, she gets notified she was in an apartment with someone who the next day tested positive (long story).
!#$@^*@%$^&@&@%&
she got tested on wednesday
results last friday - negative. phew.
got on the road yesterday at 5am.
arrived around 6pm or so and did the routine

i made a spatchcocked chicken over mixed vegetables of carrots, potatoes, onions and brussels sprouts
with a side of beer rice for those who dont want to eat potatoes.
we’re bringing it over later for dinner.

we haven’t seen her since since thanksgiving.
the rest of the family requires air travel and we’re having none of that in either direction.

my sister is cool.
my entire family gets along
mrs dm’s entire family gets along
our families get along with each other
we know how lucky we are about that

oh, and i like to say ‘spatchcock’

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:05:49pm

re: #29 Sherlock Hound

Lookit. If trump supporters want to off themselves, go. with. God.

I’m tied of protecting morons from themselves.

Covidiots, they affect all of us. I don’t care about them much either, but I pity their friends and families.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:07:23pm
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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:09:48pm

re: #58 lawhawk

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even if he was down there (he wasn’t):
THERE IS NOT ONE OTHER ‘CIVILIAN’ ON THIS PLANET WHO WAS DOWN THERE WHO WOULD EVEN CONSIDER CALLING THEMSELVES A “FIRST RESPONDER”

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Kilroy was here  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:10:03pm

Yah.. because this has worked so well in the past.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:11:09pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:11:31pm

re: #67 dangerman

even if he was down there (he wasn’t):
THERE IS NOT ONE OTHER ‘CIVILIAN’ ON THIS PLANET WHO WAS DOWN THERE WHO WOULD EVEN CONSIDER CALLING THEMSELVES A “FIRST RESPONDER”

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It fits with how he gladly took the Purple Heart. He wants what comes with honor, duty, & valor but none of the sacrifices that come with that.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:13:50pm

Only love can defeat hate, but I ain’t forgiving a single one who embraced this Nazi motherfucker.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:13:58pm

re: #65 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Lookit. If trump supporters want to off themselves, go. with. God.

I’m tied of protecting morons from themselves.

Covidiots, they affect all of us. I don’t care about them much either, but I pity their friends and families.

this is not a place i’m going to continue to go
however
dying slowly over time by not masking, distancing, washing, etc
is only different in timing and degree from sucking on an exhaust.

oh and fuck you for even saying you’re taking children with you

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:15:11pm

re: #71 nines09

Only love can defeat hate, but I ain’t forgiving a single one who embraced this Nazi motherfucker.

Seriously the signs were always there. We can’t let the GOP and the right retcon Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:15:36pm

Oh and fuck the leftists who said he would be better than Clinton too.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:16:15pm

re: #74 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Oh and fuck the leftists who said he would be better than Clinton too.

Or “there’s no difference” between them.

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:16:23pm

re: #73 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Seriously the signs were always there. We can’t let the GOP and the right retcon Trump.

Ana Marie Cox had Wilson and Schmidt on her pod today. It definitely sounds like the Lincoln Project folks aren’t about to let that shit happen. Schmidt basically called Trumpism an American version of fascism.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:16:57pm

re: #75 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Or “there’s no difference” between them.

Yep. Hope Susan Sarandon enjoys a nice old tax hike in the Biden years.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:18:03pm

re: #68 Kilroy was here

Yah.. because this has worked so well in the past.

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and it wouldnt look at all political //
and we’re worried about biden saying ‘when i’m president’, rather than ‘if’ because they’ll ‘spin’ it?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:18:06pm

re: #76 KGxvi

Ana Marie Cox had Wilson and Schmidt on her pod today. It definitely sounds like the Lincoln Project folks aren’t about to let that shit happen. Schmidt basically called Trumpism an American version of fascism.

I hope so but they’re going to have to convince their voters of that. Hopefully Trump not having the bully pulpit will wake some people up to what a fascist he is.

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JC1  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:20:31pm

re: #71 nines09

Only love can defeat hate, but I ain’t forgiving a single one who embraced this Nazi motherfucker.

Indifference works too. In fact, I think that the worst punishment for Trump would be if everyone just started ignoring him and not giving him any press time.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:21:36pm

re: #70 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It fits with how he gladly took the Purple Heart. He wants what comes with honor, duty, & valor but none of the sacrifices that come with that.

precisely

the purple heart - i’m holding it, therefore it’s mine
i left that out because i knew someone would swat the grapefruit

as to the second part, in my biz we call them badge collectors

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:22:29pm

re: #79 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I hope so but they’re going to have to convince their voters of that. Hopefully Trump not having the bully pulpit will wake some people up to what a fascist he is.

Republican voters have shown a rather amazing ability over the last quarter century or so to completely forget about anything and everything that said they believed in the prior election cycles.

Dole got memory holed for GW Bush, who then got memory holed/No True Scotsmaned for McCain, who got the same treatment for Romney, who then got Trumped. If there’s anything that resembles a GOP establishment left after this, if they deem someone the next in line, you’ll see a lot of Republicans get fall in order for that person. There will likely still be an intraparty war with residual Trumpers, but I suspect a lot of ardent Trump supporters are going to suddenly claim that they didn’t really support him that much and [weasel words] and yadda yadda yadaa…

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:22:59pm

re: #80 JC1

Indifference works too. In fact, I think that the worst punishment for Trump would be if everyone just started ignoring him and not giving him any press time.

im in

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nines09  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:24:36pm

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:24:40pm

re: #80 JC1

Indifference works too. In fact, I think that the worst punishment for Trump would be if everyone just started ignoring him and not giving him any press time.

Damnatio memoriae

For Trump, it really would be a punishment worse than death.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:25:22pm

re: #82 KGxvi

Republican voters have shown a rather amazing ability over the last quarter century or so to completely forget about anything and everything that said they believed in the prior election cycles.

Dole got memory holed for GW Bush, who then got memory holed/No True Scotsmaned for McCain, who got the same treatment for Romney, who then got Trumped. If there’s anything that resembles a GOP establishment left after this, if they deem someone the next in line, you’ll see a lot of Republicans get fall in order for that person. There will likely still be an intraparty war with residual Trumpers, but I suspect a lot of ardent Trump supporters are going to suddenly claim that they didn’t really support him that much and [weasel words] and yadda yadda yadaa…

That’s true. We’ll see what happens. I’m definitely gonna be curious watching my Trump loving cousins.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:28:49pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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Many years ago I read Eric Alterman while he had a blog. One of his bete noires was Andrew Sullivan, who also went to a very dark place after the 9/11 attacks. But then I noticed that Sullivan had changed his tune when he realized the disaster that the Iraq invasion had become. I started reading him at that time and then exchanged some comments with Alterman, suggesting that Sullivan had repented. Alterman assured me that Sullivan was beyond redemption. At that time and for several years afterwards, I thought Alterman was too harsh and unforgiving. It was only after Sullivan abandoned his blog that I really discovered how right Alterman was and how vile Sullivan has always been..

People can truly repent from mistakes they made.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:31:47pm

re: #87 Hecuba’s daughter

Many years ago I read Eric Alterman while he had a blog. One of his bete noires was Andrew Sullivan, who also went to a very dark place after the 9/11 attacks. But then I noticed that Sullivan had changed his tune when he realized the disaster that the Iraq invasion had become. I started reading him at that time and then exchanged some comments with Alterman, suggesting that Sullivan had repented. Alterman assured me that Sullivan was beyond redemption. At that time and for several years afterwards, I thought Alterman was too harsh and unforgiving. It was only after Sullivan abandoned his blog that I really discovered how right Alterman was and how vile Sullivan has always been..

People can truly repent from mistakes they made.

I think Sullivan only turned against Bush because he felt his rights being threatened when Bush pushed the FMA. Even while he went after Palin who I deeply dislike, I was disgusted by him pushing a conspiracy that Trigg wasn’t Sarah’s but Bristol’s. There were a lot of legitimate reasons to go after Palin but her youngest son wasn’t one.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:32:11pm
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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:32:19pm
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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:32:55pm

re: #67 dangerman

even if he was down there (he wasn’t):
THERE IS NOT ONE OTHER ‘CIVILIAN’ ON THIS PLANET WHO WAS DOWN THERE WHO WOULD EVEN CONSIDER CALLING THEMSELVES A “FIRST RESPONDER”

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There were countless construction workers who worked on the pile alongside the FDNY, NYPD, EMT, PAPD, and other agencies. They weren’t first responders, but they suffered for their effort. Trump never got past the checkpoints. He wasn’t invited. He was never down there. No one could remember him ever being down there. He had nothing to offer.

Everyone knows that he wasn’t a construction guy. He was a con artist who’d make noise about stuff, but couldn’t bring construction crews to bear, the gear, or the logistics to do any of what was necessary.

You had Skansa. You had Silverstein Properties (which had just signed the lease on the WTC complex). And that’s just what I can remember. There was Bay Crane. I remember crossing into Brooklyn over the Manhattan Bridge with a friend, and Bay Crane had a bunch of medium sized cranes queued up to go into Manhattan to help with the efforts.

Trump was nowhere to be found, because he had nothing to offer. He was, is, and always will be, about self promotion.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:35:07pm

re: #55 dangerman

did you adjust the bake time?

Yes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:37:56pm

re: #60 KGxvi

Reading that piece on him, I immediately become skeptical of any one claiming to be a libertarian who isn’t 100% pro-choice on abortion. A government small enough to fit into a uterus isn’t one that cares too much for the liberty of half the population.

Perot’s running mate in 1992 was a libertarian. And Admiral Stockdale was very pro-choice. Most who claim to be libertarians now are just Republicans who pretend to be more serious than the typical Republican about slashing government programs to balance the budget.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:39:01pm

re: #91 lawhawk

You had Skansa. You had Silverstein Properties (which had just signed the lease on the WTC complex). And that’s just what I can remember. There was Bay Crane. I remember crossing into Brooklyn over the Manhattan Bridge with a friend, and Bay Crane had a bunch of medium sized cranes queued up to go into Manhattan to help with the efforts.

Trump was nowhere to be found, because he had nothing to offer. He was, is, and always will be, about self promotion.

Larry Silverstein is the dude I mentioned earlier whose wife convinced him to go to a doctors appointment the morning of 9/11 instead of to a meeting at Windows on the World.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:40:59pm

re: #89 jaunte

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yes
he did build this

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:42:00pm

Had two mostly separate thoughts about the presidency, and am curious what people around here think:

1. eliminating the electoral college probably happens if/when someone wins an actual majority of the popular vote but loses in the EC.

2. what if the presidential term was 8 years, and you couldn’t serve consecutive terms?

On the second idea, a couple of point:
- people would probably take the election more seriously because it is for a longer period of time
- congress may be more willing to use impeachment for bad acts because of the longer term length

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:42:55pm

re: #92 The Pie Overlord!

Yes.

by…..? ;-)

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:43:30pm

re: #93 Hecuba’s daughter

Perot’s running mate in 1992 was a libertarian. And Admiral Stockdale was very pro-choice. Most who claim to be libertarians now are just Republicans who pretend to be more serious than the typical Republican about slashing government programs to balance the budget.

I still have pretty strong libertarian leanings, but would definitely consider myself a center-left libertarian. I don’t trust the government very much, nor do I trust big business to do the right thing on their own.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:43:41pm

re: #92 The Pie Overlord!

Yes.

That’s cold.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:43:43pm

re: #93 Hecuba’s daughter

Perot’s running mate in 1992 was a libertarian. And Admiral Stockdale was very pro-choice. Most who claim to be libertarians now are just Republicans who pretend to be more serious than the typical Republican about slashing government programs to balance the budget.

there’s another way to balance the budget
raise revenues

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:44:14pm

re: #29 Sherlock Hound

As I’ve said many times, the conspiracy industry is the real conspiracy. A lot of it is local.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:45:35pm

re: #99 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

That’s cold.

i did lol here ;-)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:46:45pm

re: #96 KGxvi

Had two mostly separate thoughts about the presidency, and am curious what people around here think:

1. eliminating the electoral college probably happens if/when someone wins an actual majority of the popular vote but loses in the EC.

2. what if the presidential term was 8 years, and you couldn’t serve consecutive terms?

On the second idea, a couple of point:
- people would probably take the election more seriously because it is for a longer period of time
- congress may be more willing to use impeachment for bad acts because of the longer term length

On #2, no. People wouldn’t take it more seriously. Congress consisting of anything Republican or Republican like wouldn’t do anything different.

I wholeheartedly disagree with #2.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:47:32pm

re: #97 dangerman

by…..? ;-)

Yes please. I always screw up time adjustments.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:52:55pm

I pre-baked the pie shells for 15 minutes, instead of 25 minutes for a regular pie crust. Other than that there was little oven time, except 5 minutes browning the meringue topping, the same as for a full size pie.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:54:03pm

re: #96 KGxvi

Had two mostly separate thoughts about the presidency, and am curious what people around here think:

1. eliminating the electoral college probably happens if/when someone wins an actual majority of the popular vote but loses in the EC.

2. what if the presidential term was 8 years, and you couldn’t serve consecutive terms?

On the second idea, a couple of point:
- people would probably take the election more seriously because it is for a longer period of time
- congress may be more willing to use impeachment for bad acts because of the longer term length

Disagree with both:
1. Only happens if a Republican wins the popular vote but loses in the EC. The most fanatic supporters of the EC today don’t care about the popular vote but only about preserving GOP rule.

2. 8 years is too long a period without the chance to change course if you object to the direction a president is going. Trump would be president for 8 years and thanks to an obstinate GOP would be able to commit any infraction without any public recourse. After all, removal of a president requires a 2/3 vote in the Senate — and no way are the Democrats going to end up with 2/3 of the Senate in 2020.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:54:14pm

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

I pre-baked the pie shells for 15 minutes, instead of 25 minutes for a regular pie crust. Other than that there was little oven time, except 5 minutes browning the meringue topping, the same as for a full size pie.

mwah

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nines09  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:56:23pm

2020 also took John Prine along with so much more.
But 2020 cans end on a great note if we defeat Trump.

Here’s John back at his peak.

John Prine - All The Best - The Missing Years

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:56:54pm

shit

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:59:04pm
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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:00:00pm

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

shit

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Once again, this misses that it’s a 50 state election, not one.

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:00:31pm

re: #106 Hecuba’s daughter

Disagree with both:
1. Only happens if a Republican wins the popular vote but loses in the EC. The most fanatic supporters of the EC today don’t care about the popular vote but only about preserving GOP rule.

2. 8 years is too long a period without the chance to change course if you object to the direction a president is going. Trump would be president for 8 years and thanks to an obstinate GOP would be able to commit any infraction without any public recourse. After all, removal of a president requires a 2/3 vote in the Senate — and no way are the Democrats going to end up with 2/3 of the Senate in 2020.

The French presidency is for a 7 year term (and they don’t have term limits). So I don’t think 8 years would necessarily be too long. It would make congressional elections more important, and would likely require the congress to be more aggressive in their use of power vis a vis the presidency.

My thinking, and it wasn’t too deep at the moment, was mostly about how to strengthen congress and constrain the presidency. Line of thought was mostly that with 8 years, Congress can’t rely on voters bailing them out as so many seemed to want between 2017 and 2019.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:01:51pm
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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:02:41pm

“…a new witness to the killing of Rienoehl now alleges that the fugitive task force itself behaved as a violent mob. The witness, Nate Dinguss, released his description of events through an attorney, relating that “officers never attempted to apprehend Reinoehl and did not issue any commands prior to shooting at him.” The eyewitness, his attorney describes, saw the task force ambush Reinoehl, whom Dinguss had seen “walking toward his car with his cellphone in his hand chewing on a gummy worm when two unmarked law enforcement vehicles suddenly converged from different directions and began firing at Reinoehl.”

Dinguss, the lawyer relates, “never observed a firearm on Reinoehl” and did not see “Reinoehl reach for anything.” Instead, Rienoehl ducked for cover by his car as “officers shot multiple rapid-fire rounds at Reinoehl before issuing a brief ‘stop’ command, quickly followed by more rapid-fire shooting by additional officers.” After shooting Reinoehl, Dinguss alleges, officers let the injured man languish, making “no attempt to render life-saving aid … until multiple minutes following the shooting.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:04:13pm

Per worldometer: Illinois looks very bad today — skyrocketing deaths (last time there were so many was June 25th) as well as 2300 new cases.

Russia also seems to be moving up slowly in new cases — maybe a sign that things are going really badly there.

And India looks terrible: over 97,000 new cases, a world record, though less than us as a percentage of population.

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:04:27pm

In other one bad apple news:

An Orange County sheriff’s deputy has been arrested on allegations he burglarized the home of a man who had recently died.

Deputy Steve Hortz, a 12-year veteran of the Orange County Sheriff’s Department, was arrested Thursday morning and booked at the Santa Ana jail for burglary.

The department says Hortz was the backup deputy on July 20 for a call to the Yorba Linda home of a man in his 70s who died of natural causes.

The video is pretty amazing.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:08:17pm
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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:08:40pm

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

shit

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there will not be election night riots
it’s too early

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:11:50pm

re: #57 lawhawk

I seem to recall quite a few of them were complaining about the design of the Shanksville 9/11 memorial incorporating a crescent, and therefore that it was a secret Muslim stake to the site.

Same bunch also claimed that a local mosque would be built near Ground Zero on Park Row that would somehow tower over 1WTC (aka Freedom Tower, which is the Western Hemisphere’s tallest skyscraper).

There was a guy, I forget his name now, who REALLY wanted me to push that Shanksville memorial story at LGF, and I think I even posted something about it once before I said to myself, “Wait a minute, this is batshit nuts.”

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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:12:05pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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Biden isn’t just a guy who you could have a beer with, he’ll supply the beer.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:16:18pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

There was a guy, I forget his name now, who REALLY wanted me to push that Shanksville memorial story at LGF, and I think I even posted something about it once before I said to myself, “Wait a minute, this is batshit nuts.”

There was a lot of batcrap insanity, especially with the memorial design and then the mosque (or the Ground Zero megamosque as Geller and other assorted anti-Muslim bigots would repeatedly assert).

That started up again when they found components from one of the planes in a space behind one of the buildings as it was being worked on.

It was always laughable how they would claim a 7 story building that contained a mosque would somehow tower over the WTC complex. But for people who only read headlines, it was all that ever mattered. Same with the memorial design. A random crescent was suddenly a menacing Islamic symbol. It was all bulkshit.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:16:31pm

re: #120 Targetpractice

Biden isn’t just a guy who you could have a beer with, he’ll supply the beer.

remembers this and he’s gonna tank the debates?

right

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:17:08pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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Iron City. Joe knows his audience. Keep on saying this but so many of us and I include myself underrated Biden as a candidate. Retail, he’s top notch.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:17:41pm

re: #120 Targetpractice

Biden isn’t just a guy who you could have a beer with, he’ll supply the beer.

He doesn’t drink but he’s a generous lad.

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b_sharp  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:17:42pm

re: #122 dangerman

remembers this and he’s gonna tank the debates?

right

He has remarkably good staff, or we’re just used to Trump’s crap staff.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:18:30pm

“Secretary of State Mike Pompeo assigned official government work to one of his top advisers through his wife, Susan, who used a private email account to relay his requests,” McClatchy reports.

The spouse of a Cabinet member would not be expected to have a government email account if they are not employed by the government. But Susan Pompeo’s influence over official personnel and activities at the State Department has raised concerns on Capitol Hill and within the department.”

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:18:44pm

re: #125 b_sharp

No one on Trump’s staff expects him to keep to what he said eight hours ago, much less eight years.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:18:54pm

re: #125 b_sharp

He has remarkably good staff, or and we’re just used to Trump’s crap staff.

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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:18:55pm

re: #122 dangerman

remembers this and he’s gonna tank the debates?

right

Really, anybody who has watched him in the last 3 months and believes he’s gonna flub the debates because he’s “senile” is so far up their ass that they’re in danger of choking on their own uvula.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:20:07pm

re: #127 jaunte

No one on Trump’s staff expects him to keep to what he said eight hours ago, much less eight years.

it didnt even take 8 hours for pence to take down that lie of a tweet two days ago

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:20:12pm

re: #122 dangerman

remembers this and he’s gonna tank the debates?

right

Of course, there might not be any debates. And if there are, Trump won’t be able to pull his stunt of physically stalking his opponent; even if they are on the same stage (probably won’t be in the same city), Trump doesn’t tower over Biden.

The problem of course is that Trump will Gish Gallop Biden and there won’t be time for Biden to answer the question plus respond to the Gish Gallop.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:20:23pm

re: #129 Targetpractice

Really, anybody who has watched him in the last 3 months and believes he’s gonna flub the debates because he’s “senile” is so far up their ass that they’re in danger of choking on their own uvula.

I think the big debates weren’t optimal for him but once the field got smaller, it got better for him and his style.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:21:03pm

re: #131 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, there might not be any debates. And if there are, Trump won’t be able to pull his stunt of physically stalking his opponent; even if they are on the same stage (probably won’t be in the same city), Trump doesn’t tower over Biden.

The problem of course is that Trump will Gish Gallop Biden and there won’t be time for Biden to answer the question plus respond to the Gish Gallop.

If Trump tries to get out of the debate, just call him a chickenshit.

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Jack Burton  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:21:06pm

re: #116 KGxvi

In other one bad apple news:

The video is pretty amazing.

Orange County Sheriff has a history of being a bad apple department. It’s the department that gave us Mike Carona and Don Haidl. It’s also the first, to my knowledge, department in California to encrypt their radios to keep the press out.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:21:09pm

re: #131 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, there might not be any debates. And if there are, Trump won’t be able to pull his stunt of physically stalking his opponent; even if they are on the same stage (probably won’t be in the same city), Trump doesn’t tower over Biden.

The problem of course is that Trump will Gish Gallop Biden and there won’t be time for Biden to answer the question plus respond to the Gish Gallop.

The response to the Gish gallop is “You’re doing it again.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:22:31pm

re: #135 Belafon

The response to the Gish gallop is “You’re doing it again.”

Ah— the Reagan response. “There you go again”

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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:22:40pm

re: #135 Belafon

The response to the Gish gallop is “You’re doing it again.”

No no, you gotta do it in an admonishing grandfatherly voice: “There you go again.”

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:23:10pm

Not a surprise. Peter Thiel supported Apartheid thirty years ago, he still supports it today.

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b_sharp  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:23:22pm

re: #135 Belafon

The response to the Gish gallop is “You’re doing it again.”

“Are you finished with your BS?”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:23:23pm

re: #122 dangerman

remembers this and he’s gonna tank the debates?

right

To be fair, this could have been a setup. It’s been known to happen in political campaigns. 🙂

Even it was, though, it was well-played.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:24:42pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

I remember Michelle Malkin on a tangent about this nonsense too. I think Pam Geller was at one point also. That shit seems quaint compared to today’s firehose of crap.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:25:11pm

re: #139 b_sharp

“Are you finished with your BS?”

Or in Biden’s language, malarkey!

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:26:01pm

re: #131 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, there might not be any debates. And if there are, Trump won’t be able to pull his stunt of physically stalking his opponent; even if they are on the same stage (probably won’t be in the same city), Trump doesn’t tower over Biden.

The problem of course is that Trump will Gish Gallop Biden and there won’t be time for Biden to answer the question plus respond to the Gish Gallop.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:26:46pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

To be fair, this could have been a setup. It’s been known to happen in political campaigns. 🙂

Even it was, though, it was well-played.

I thought the same. Doesn’t matter to me. If it is, though, they should use a better camera angle.

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stpaulbear  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:27:36pm

re: #68 Kilroy was here

The Hill
@thehill
Trump says he would put down riots on election night “very quickly”

I’m afraid that he’s talking about anyone who’s still standing in the voting line after 8:00 pm. Somewhere, his troops are going to try to send people home before they’ve voted.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:31:01pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

To be fair, this could have been a setup. It’s been known to happen in political campaigns. 🙂

Even it was, though, it was well-played.

oh yes
that reinforces it, doesnt it?
he and his team are organized and prepared and forward thinking

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:32:08pm

re: #146 dangerman

oh yes
that reinforces it, doesnt it?
he and his team are organized and prepared and forward thinking

In my life my wife is the person who remembers those details and saves my ass time and again. So maybe Dr. Jill.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:33:17pm
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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:34:46pm

re: #145 stpaulbear

I’m afraid that he’s talking about anyone who’s still standing in the voting line after 8:00 pm. Somewhere, his troops are going to try to send people home before they’ve voted.

wont happen / wouldn’t have the desired effect
for more reasons than it’s worth mentioning

many things that have been discussed over the last few months that might, just might even be possible are for the most part highly, if not totally improbable.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:35:00pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

I personally will never get over when they allowed you in place of thou.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:37:35pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

Jonathan Gitlin
@drgitlin
*
Sep 11, 2020
Apparently AP style now says you can use “less” even when “fewer” is correct and so 2020 continues to plumb new depths.

My favorite lines from GOT:

Jon Snow: “How many men do we have in the north to fight him? 10,000? Less?”
Davos: “Fewer.”
Jon: “What?”

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:38:28pm

In the midwest, at least in my experience, most supermarkets have the express lane as something like “15 items or less.” I was pleasantly surprised to find that where I live in New England they all say “15 items or fewer.”

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jeffreyw  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:38:37pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

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I couldn’t care fewer.

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:40:06pm

re: #143 dangerman

This would also be an appropriate response to whatever batshittery Trump spews at the debates:

A simple ‘wrong’ would’ve done just fine…

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:40:28pm

re: #153 jeffreyw

I couldn’t care fewer.

“Thank you so much!”
“It was the fewest I could do.”

Ok, wait, here context matters.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:40:57pm

Negative slope governments where Tan = -0.9 or higher during first term

Pride Rock under Scar Administration
USA under Trump

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:41:25pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

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NetworkKed  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:41:40pm

If Trump had the troops to really put in a nationwide martial law, I would have some worries.

He doesn’t. And the generals have telegraphed how they feel about that sort of crap already. So any actions he takes, while possibly ugly as hell, will be self-defeating.

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Jay C  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:43:09pm

re: #126 dangerman

“Secretary of State Mike Pompeo assigned official government work to one of his top advisers through his wife, Susan, who used a private email account to relay his requests,” McClatchy reports.

“The spouse of a Cabinet member would not be expected to have a government email account if they are not employed by the government. But Susan Pompeo’s influence over official personnel and activities at the State Department has raised concerns on Capitol Hill and within the department.”

But, but….HER EMAILS!!!!!1!!!!11!!

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:43:58pm

I was just thinking the other day that we hadn’t heard from Ken in a while.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:45:18pm

re: #158 NetworkKed

If Trump had the troops to really put in a nationwide martial law, I would have some worries.

He doesn’t.

But he does have plenty of nutjob RW militias ready to do his bidding.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:46:05pm

re: #160 Barefoot Grin

I was just thinking the other day that we hadn’t heard from Ken in a while.

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Some of it absolutely does.

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:47:33pm

re: #158 NetworkKed

If Trump had the troops to really put in a nationwide martial law, I would have some worries.

He doesn’t. And the generals have telegraphed how they feel about that sort of crap already. So any actions he takes, while possibly ugly as hell, will be self-defeating.

If Trump gets real stupid, I wonder who is quicker to bum rush him: the secret service agents or the Marines at the door?

I mean, you can’t tell me there aren’t a few Secret Service agents that would love the opportunity to put him in an arm bar and force him out of the room.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:47:49pm

re: #162 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Some of it absolutely does.

Yeah, for example to put the screws to Russia.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:49:50pm

re: #145 stpaulbear

I’m afraid that he’s talking about anyone who’s still standing in the voting line after 8:00 pm. Somewhere, his troops are going to try to send people home before they’ve voted.

Which will be easy enough to identify… Who’s wearing masks vs who isn’t.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:51:32pm

re: #159 Jay C

But, but….HER EMAILS!!!!!1!!!!11!!

theres that part and the worse part: she’s not a part of government

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:52:24pm

re: #162 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Some of it absolutely does.

It’s not even really a matter of things need to go up or down on the budget… we probably need to rethink the way we spend money on the military as a whole - re-evaluate priorities, figure out what works and what doesn’t and all that sort of stuff.

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:53:13pm

re: #165 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Which will be easy enough to identify… Who’s wearing masks vs who isn’t.

Something tells me the vigilantes will be wearing masks… but they’ll also be easy to identify as they’ll be the one’s carrying AR-15’s and threatening people.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:53:59pm

re: #166 dangerman

theres that part and the worse part: she’s not a part of government

And how are Jared and Ivanka part of the government??? There is no justification for either of them to have a role in a legitimate administration. Instead, we are being run by a crime family.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:54:24pm

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

But he does have plenty of nutjob RW militias ready to do his bidding.

meaningless unless the actual election officials at every site in whatever state all slam their doors at 8 sharp on all the lines of people waiting everywhere.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:54:27pm

re: #164 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, for example to put the screws to Russia.

Sanction em, restore trust with the EU allies, help Ukraine, & support the Belorussian democrats.

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steve_davis  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:58:35pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

My turn to be THAT GUY. That’s not a tank, that’s a 155mm self-propelled howitzer, much bigger than any tank gun.

the french discovered too late, to their horror, that the vietnamese were fully capable of taking something roughly that size and having 300 conscripted laborers pull it several hundred miles through the jungle until it arrived at dien bien phu. I’m actually read _Hell in a Very Small Place_ at the moment, and it is absolutely incredible what the Viet Minh accomplished. What’s even more incredible is that 10 years later, we decided to do it all over again.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:58:46pm

re: #169 Hecuba’s daughter

And how are Jared and Ivanka part of the government??? There is no justification for either of them to have a role in a legitimate administration. Instead, we are being run by a crime family.

whether we like it or not (we dont) they are part of government
official advisors to the prez.
they are employed and i assume, paid.
that they arent qualified (which was overriden by the prez) is a different problem.

pompeo’s wife is not an employee of the government
she’s just the wife of a cabinet member

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:58:47pm

And I’m definitely in favor of stirring up Russian public opinion against Putin by doing information campaigns that show how little he actually cares about the people of Russia and only his power.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:59:07pm

WTAFITFS

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:00:50pm

re: #172 steve_davis

the french discovered too late, to their horror, that the vietnamese were fully capable of taking something roughly that size and having 300 conscripted laborers pull it several hundred miles through the jungle until it arrived at dien bien phu. I’m actually read _Hell in a Very Small Place_ at the moment, and it is absolutely incredible what the Viet Minh accomplished. What’s even more incredible is that 10 years later, we decided to do it all over again.

man in the wilderness 1971
john huston
richard harris

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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:01:31pm

re: #175 The Pie Overlord!

WTAFITFS

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Hey Kurt, there’s this part before that whole “against all enemies” bit that goes “support and defend the Constitution.” And guess what, the Constitution not only includes freedom of the press, it also includes freedom of assembly. It doesn’t say that the answer to losing an election is a fucking coup.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:03:00pm

re: #175 The Pie Overlord!

WTAFITFS

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Tough guy Kurt wants Trump to be his dictator daddy so bad.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:03:25pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

Hey Kurt, there’s this part before that whole “against all enemies” bit that goes “support and defend the Constitution.” And guess what, the Constitution not only includes freedom of the press, it also includes freedom of assembly. It doesn’t say that the answer to losing an election is a fucking coup.

Kurts an out of touch bootlicking loser.

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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:03:42pm

“We must protect the nation from a liberal coup!”

“How do we do that?”

“BY LAUNCHING A CONSERVATIVE COUP!!!”

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:04:52pm

re: #175 The Pie Overlord!

WTAFITFS

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No, Curt, that’s not what the oath says.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:06:03pm

re: #173 dangerman

whether we like it or not (we dont) they are part of government
official advisors to the prez.
they are employed and i assume, paid.
that they arent qualified (which was overriden by the prez) is a different problem.

pompeo’s wife is not an employee of the government
she’s just the wife of a cabinet member

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makeitstop  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:08:57pm

A for-tuney. Wha?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:10:12pm

re: #175 The Pie Overlord!

WTAFITFS

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Deleted. That asshole.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:10:52pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:13:30pm

re: #175 The Pie Overlord!

WTAFITFS

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Let me add… Kurt seems to forget that he’s addressing the suckers and losers trump referred to.

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steve_davis  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:13:33pm

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

shit

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then i go onto the internet and learn how to build IED’s and become one of the half-dozen most dangerous “connie-killers” on the eastern seaboard.

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Jay C  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:14:03pm

re: #184 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Deleted. That asshole.

SRSLY.
It just points out one of the (truly) unfortunate aspects of this year’s Presidential campaign:

Biden supporters motivate themselves to vote out of hatred for Trump.
Trump supporters motivate themselves to vote out of hatred for Biden supporters.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:15:09pm

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

But he does have plenty of nutjob RW militias ready to do his bidding.

I think they will. If so, they need to be smacked down very hard. If law enforcement can’t or won’t do it, the job falls to the people themselves. Btw, I believe this, dealing with armed insurgents until loyal forces arrive, is one of the real intents of the second amendment, as opposed to overthrowing a government one happens not to like. The latter interpretation is fairly new, popularized by racist insurgents from the 1960s onward.
The Putin/Trump auxiliaries, aka nutjob militias, are vulnerable. It is important to gather as much intelligence as possible on them, first because it is standard practice when dealing with an armed enemy, and secondly because it pits our strength, intelligence in all its forms, against their most glaring weakness, their ignorant and delusional worldview. The latter weakness is inherent and not subject to correction, since they have no motivation without it.
Another inherent weakness is their complete disregard for cover, concealment and stealth. This is partly because they are just plain stupid but mostly because their every action is predicated on display and exposure.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:15:23pm
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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:15:46pm

re: #183 makeitstop

A for-tuney. Wha?

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forget the goddamned garbled english language

you are already lost when your only defense is to (badly) try and say ‘this other guy screwed up something else too’ (which they didnt)

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:17:07pm

Sir yes sir!

“Every day is Veterans Day. Don’t you EVER forget that! And if you do, I’ll shoot you! For America! Say ‘Sir, Yes, Sir!!’”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:21:30pm

re: #192 Sherlock Hound

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“Every day is Veterans Day. Don’t you EVER forget that! And if you do, I’ll shoot you! For America! Say ‘Sir, Yes, Sir!!’”

I really hate what I’ll call Aggro-Patriotism. It’s the whole if you don’t do my conception of patriotism, you’re disrespecting military sacrifice. It’s a bunch of bullshit pushed by people who are the first to vote for politicians that support tax cuts over helping veterans.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:23:46pm

re: #192 Sherlock Hound

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“Every day is Veterans Day. Don’t you EVER forget that! And if you do, I’ll shoot you! For America! Say ‘Sir, Yes, Sir!!’”

Any person wearing that shirt is disrespecting the flag right there.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:24:52pm

re: #194 Belafon

Any person wearing that shirt is disrespecting the flag right there.

It’s an ugly shirt too.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:26:06pm

Evening Lizardim.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:26:07pm

re: #193 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I really hate what I’ll call Aggro-Patriotism. It’s the whole if you don’t do my conception of patriotism, you’re disrespecting military sacrifice. It’s a bunch of bullshit pushed by people who are the first to vote for politicians that support tax cuts over helping veterans send other people’s kids to fight.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:29:34pm

re: #192 Sherlock Hound

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“Every day is Veterans Day. Don’t you EVER forget that! And if you do, I’ll shoot you! For America! Say ‘Sir, Yes, Sir!!’”

I accept the challenge. I could have come home under a flag, in a full-size coffin though a shoebox would probably have sufficed. This shirt is the product of an ignorant, traitorous mind that has likely been duped by enemy propaganda.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:31:04pm

re: #193 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Where sweating into an American flag t-shirt is patriotism, and promoting the general welfare by wearing a mask is being a pussy.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:34:52pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Joe Biden, informed by a firefighter that on his last visit he had promised to bring beer, pulls out a six-pack of Iron City and starts handing them out

Iron City. Well, that’s a fucking lock on the election. (So-so beer, but sacred.)

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Jay C  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:40:46pm

re: #200 Decatur Deb

Iron City. Well, that’s a fucking lock on the election. (So-so beer, but sacred.)

He should have brought a case.
20 EV’s right there…..

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:45:16pm

re: #150 Belafon

I personally will never get over when they allowed you in place of thou.

“Ain’t” was absolutely verboten when I went to school. I blame Fats Waller.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:53:16pm
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Jack Burton  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:58:23pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

Stannis Baratheon is rolling in his grave.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:00:19pm

re: #203 jaunte

The guy at work who’s the loud conservative was complaining about it. I want to ask him if he should be making political statements at work.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:00:24pm

Jeez, this thread

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:00:59pm

re: #203 jaunte

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He’s right. Nearly any other cause with players on both teams showing unity would get cheers. So many fans don’t look at athletes as anything other than existing for their entertainment. Their being citizens in this society means nothing to them.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:01:32pm

re: #205 Belafon

Was he upset about “politics in sports” or more specific about “Black people should be quiet?”

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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:03:32pm

re: #205 Belafon

The guy at work who’s the loud conservative was complaining about it. I want to ask him if he should be making political statements at work.

Ask him what players can do to show support for racial equality that he’d support. Bet you the answer is some stuttered bullshit about how they need to do that “on their own time” and not “politicize” the sport…but they should totally stand and have their hand over their heart for the national anthem “for the troops.”

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:09:46pm

re: #207 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s right. Nearly any other cause with players on both teams showing unity would get cheers. So many fans don’t look at athletes as anything other than existing for their entertainment. Their being citizens in this society means nothing to them.

they shoulda all walked off
you’re gonna diss me, im not gonna play for your entertainment

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:10:36pm

This is what happens when you roll out the “NOT WELCOME” sign, then add an out of control pandemic to it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:11:13pm

re: #210 dangerman

they shoulda all walked off
you’re gonna diss me, im not gonna play for your entertainment

Players kneel and these fuckers lose their minds.

They lock arms and these fuckers boo.

One might almost think that it had nothing to do with the anthem…

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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:12:42pm

re: #211 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

This is what happens when you roll out the “NOT WELCOME” sign, then add an out of control pandemic to it.

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Those are future doctors, engineers, inventors, and others who could have added to America’s greatness. And now they’ll go to another country which will welcome them, cultivate their potential, and reap the rewards for decades to come.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:17:25pm

Joe Biden: I am staying silent today out of respect for those who lost their lives on 9/11.

Donald Trump:

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stpaulbear  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:17:33pm

Per WaPo

The Democratic opponent of Republican candidate Marjorie Taylor Greene, a professed QAnon conspiracy theory believer, said Friday he was dropping out of the race for the U.S. House seat in Georgia.

Kevin Van Ausdal cited “family and personal reasons” in announcing that he could not continue his candidacy in Georgia’s 14th Congressional District. Greene is favored to win the open seat in the strongly GOP district.

In a statement posted to Twitter, Van Ausdal said the next steps in his life would be taking him away from Georgia, “so I will be disqualified from serving in Congress.”

I wonder if Q threatened his family? This sounds like something awful happened.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:18:48pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:18:58pm

re: #214 Eclectic Cyborg

Joe Biden: I am staying silent today out of respect for those who lost their lives on 9/11.

Donald Trump:

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If the US is “coming back strong,” then why are Repubs sweating the lack of a relief bill? Hell, why are you even entertaining negotiations and talking about giving out more checks?

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:20:30pm

re: #209 Targetpractice

Ask him what players can do to show support for racial equality that he’d support. Bet you the answer is some stuttered bullshit about how they need to do that “on their own time” and not “politicize” the sport…but they should totally stand and have their hand over their heart for the national anthem “for the troops.”

Zero. I heard the way he used “BLM”.

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retired cynic  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:21:12pm

The Finalists Of The 2020 Comedy Wildlife Photography Awards Have Been Announced And They Might Crack You Up

And at least one of them will. I guarantee it. And I think we all need it today.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:21:32pm

re: #208 jaunte

Was he upset about “politics in sports” or more specific about “Black people should be quiet?”

Based on what I know of the guy, it’s the cause.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:23:26pm

Meanwhile in San Francisco, the salon owner who set Nancy Pelosi up, says she’s closing down, because “she’s afraid to come back.” She apparently got a lot of calls and emails from people wishing her business would fail. (If there were any threats to her personally, she didn’t mention them.)

1) Good.

2) F’r’evin’s sake, what did she think would happen? She routinely wins elections with about 80% of the vote.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:23:29pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:24:19pm

re: #220 Belafon

Based on what I know of the guy, it’s the cause.

Let me guess, at some point in the past he’s either used “I’m not a racist, but…” or gotten irate about Trump supporters being accused of such.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:24:48pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

Fauci continues to play the ivory tower isolate.

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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:25:47pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

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We haven’t even finished the first wave, but we’re supposed to buy into this bullshit that Donny “prevented a second wave.”

Horseshit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:25:56pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

Trumps Assessment = Whatever bullshit happens to come out of his mouth that particular day

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:28:09pm

Trying to find some contact info on an old college buddy of mine… and he’s done a pretty good job of wiping the internet of personal info. Good scrubbing of public records (that can be scrubbed.) Not that he’s hiding professionally (easy to find job contact). He’s a brilliant Ph.D. computer specialist and I gather he knows what he’s doing.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:28:11pm

re: #223 Targetpractice

Let me guess, at some point in the past he’s either used “I’m not a racist, but…” or gotten irate about Trump supporters being accused of such.

“I’m not a racist, but…”
“I don’t like leaving my bag around at they gym with all those black people.”
“All this ‘political correctness’”

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BeachDem  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:28:38pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

We haven’t even finished the first wave, but we’re supposed to buy into this bullshit that Donny “prevented a second wave.”

Horseshit.

And there’s this:

Eating at a restaurant, whether inside or outside, is among the riskiest pandemic activities, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found.

In a study of 314 adults, the CDC found that those who tested positive were about twice as likely to have gone to a restaurant before getting sick. Researchers asked each participant what they had done two weeks before getting tested, including wearing masks or going to restaurants, bars, salons or gyms.

Both people who tested positive and those who tested negative gave similar answers, except when it came to going to restaurants. The data show people who tested positive were significantly more likely to eat at restaurants in “any area designated by the restaurant, including indoor, patio, and outdoor seating.”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:29:11pm

re: #216 Belafon

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:29:18pm

The hashtag #TedCruzHasNoBalls is trending.

all you need to know.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:32:28pm

I was bike riding through my neighborhood earlier. This is a rural part of of MS where Confederate and Trump Flags are pretty common.

So imagine my surprise to ride past a house on my own street with three Biden signs in front of it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:32:31pm

re: #228 Belafon

“I’m not a racist, but…”
“I don’t like leaving my bag around at they gym with all those black people.”
“All this ‘political correctness’”

So his issue is that he can’t be a racist out loud, which is why he’s so cranky.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:32:57pm

WTAFITFS

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:36:37pm

re: #234 The Pie Overlord!

WTAFITFS

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If we had a functioning government, the FBI would be tracking this down.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:39:14pm

re: #219 retired cynic

The Finalists Of The 2020 Comedy Wildlife Photography Awards Have Been Announced And They Might Crack You Up

And at least one of them will. I guarantee it. And I think we all need it today.

Hot…hot…hot…hot…hot

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:42:37pm

re: #229 BeachDem

And there’s this:

Eating at a restaurant, whether inside or outside, is among the riskiest pandemic activities, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found.

In a study of 314 adults, the CDC found that those who tested positive were about twice as likely to have gone to a restaurant before getting sick. Researchers asked each participant what they had done two weeks before getting tested, including wearing masks or going to restaurants, bars, salons or gyms.

Both people who tested positive and those who tested negative gave similar answers, except when it came to going to restaurants. The data show people who tested positive were significantly more likely to eat at restaurants in “any area designated by the restaurant, including indoor, patio, and outdoor seating.”

One problem with the study is that it did not gather information on whether those dining at restaurants ate inside or outside.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:43:54pm

re: #211 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

This is what happens when you roll out the “NOT WELCOME” sign, then add an out of control pandemic to it.

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This one has personal implications.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:44:20pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:50:52pm

re: #239 Charles Johnson

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So, it’s basically a replay of the 90s with tobacco companies: We’ve been fed a pack of lies for decades because if we knew the truth, then we’d stop buying their products and they couldn’t afford for that to happen.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:51:06pm

So after reading Woodward’s reasoning for not releasing this sooner, I understand why (he had to fact check what was said because let’s face it, everything he says it’s a lie).

I still think it could have come out sooner and saved some lives.

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plansbandc  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:51:35pm

I loathe 9/11 crap. Just solemnly acknowledge it and move on. I do not need to see any more footage of the planes hitting the towers or any more specials about it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:52:03pm

re: #242 plansbandc

I loathe 9/11 crap. Just solemnly acknowledge it and move on. I do not need to see any more footage of the planes hitting the towers or any more specials about it.

Just wait until next year.

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plansbandc  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:52:44pm

re: #243 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If I’m still here, I will do at least a week away from social media.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:55:39pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:57:08pm

re: #243 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Just wait until next year.

Front-line responder cosplay will be a thing.

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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:57:49pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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PrairieQueen  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:59:15pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

For one, I don’t like assholes speaking for me about God, but they all do it. God wasn’t any more a part of 9/11 or uniting our particular country or treating our country like his favorite child than he decides who wins the fucking Superbowl, so those who pretend to speak for or know God best can ditch that shit and move on to something more productive.

Trump falls in the same tiresome GOP trap of invoking God whenever it will score brownie points with the gullible. It’s like watching the same stupid card trick over and over, even after you know how it’s done and the novelty has worn off.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:00:08pm

re: #241 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So after reading Woodward’s reasoning for not releasing this sooner, I understand why (he had to fact check what was said because let’s face it, everything he says it’s a lie).

I still think it could have come out sooner and saved some lives.

There was someone quoted at Trump’s rally the other day that, when told that Trump knew back in February that the virus was airborne and deadlier, that “that’s just his opinion.” The question is would Trump have done anything really different had he been called out.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:04:05pm

So Tim tebow went on missions to convert people to Christianity when he was younger and part of what he did was circumcisions?

I have so many questions.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:05:28pm

re: #243 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Just wait until next year.

That’s why I want a pact in 2022: No performative grief on 9/11. Yes, the families and friends of the dead can mourn, or not. Everyone else must move on. No, the Peabody (MA) police department will NOT have 9/11 off! (True! They wanted the day off! Fortunately, they lost that one.)

As I see it, I’m doing everyone a great favor: The freedom to move on without guilt or obligation. Not everyone will be able to do this, but to those that can—especially politicians!—it will be the boulder released from our shoulders.

Except for people who rewatch the footage to get off on it. Those people can fuck themselves.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:10:33pm

re: #198 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I accept the challenge. I could have come home under a flag, in a full-size coffin though a shoebox would probably have sufficed. This shirt is the product of an ignorant, traitorous mind that has likely been duped by enemy propaganda.

Btw, I actually find it a little distasteful to keep playing the veteran card, since it was a long time ago, a lot has happened since, and they aren’t exactly my favorite memories anyway. Nevertheless, fascist jackals and their drooling idiot accomplices keep trying to steal that card for their own deck, so someone has to keep grabbing it back.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:25:19pm

re: #153 jeffreyw

I couldn’t care fewer.

[Give up]

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:40:19pm

re: #214 Eclectic Cyborg

Joe Biden: I am staying silent today out of respect for those who lost their lives on 9/11.

Donald Trump:

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I said it was early and this would happen!
he can’t help himself

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:47:53pm

re: #233 Targetpractice

So his issue is that he can’t be a racist out loud, which is why he’s so cranky.

It’s like constipation.


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