Texas Bans Abortion as the Supreme Court Does Nothing

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This is one of the biggest reasons why many of us had such a sinking feeling when Donald Trump was elected, at a time when he would probably be able to install at least one Supreme Court justice. It turned out that he installed three.

Donald Trump installed three Supreme Court justices. Let that sink in.

And now the right wing Supreme Court is doing what they were groomed to do — tear down the Roe v. Wade decision. Starting with refusing to stop an absolutely insane Texas law that actually places a bounty on people who provide abortions: Texas Abortion Ban: What It Means and What Happens Next.

With the U.S. Supreme Court mum, a new law went into effect in Texas that bans abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy. That’s well before many women even know they are pregnant.

The law allows private citizens to sue abortion providers and anyone else who helps a woman obtain an abortion — including those who give a woman a ride to a clinic or provide financial assistance to obtain an abortion. Private citizens who bring these suits don’t need to show any connection to those they are suing.

The law makes no exceptions for cases involving rape or incest.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:31:51am

Expand the Supreme Court!

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:32:23am

So much for snitches get stiches.

In Texas, snitches get $10k and bounties for snitching on people they think had an abortion. No proof necessary to launch investigations or anything.

Yeah, what could possibly go wrong here, other than I don’t know, saying that Abbott and Paxton spouses both had abortions and someone needs to investigate what happened and why they’re covering up their own malfeasance?

Given how this is supposed to be “policed” by people, but ultimately state courts and authorities are involved, this gives state action to back up the law. That’s a roundabout method to shred the rule of law and should be ruled unconstitutional. It’s encouraging vigilantism.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:33:06am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:34:25am

re: #2 lawhawk

Given how this is supposed to be “policed” by people, but ultimately state courts and authorities are involved, this gives state action to back up the law. That’s a roundabout method to shred the rule of law and should be ruled unconstitutional. It’s encouraging vigilantism.

That is seen as a feature, not a bug…

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:34:35am

So abortion will be banned in every red state. You can bet on that. Republicans finally got what they wanted by overturning Roe v Wade in states where they control the legislature. Yet we have Manchin and other jokers in the Senate talking about bipartisanship.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:40:15am

This seems very much like a fake Twitter account, or someone who has no idea how elections work in this state. The account holder claims to be from Sidney.

Pete Ricketts is term-limited. He won’t appear on the ballot again.

The account is an endless stream of promotion of hydroxychloroquine (those should be reported by the Twitterati as promoting self-harm), and wingnut hosts.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:41:43am

How the hell does this law work; do they get to force women to produce their medical records? Every Texas GOP legislator should be sued and accused of helping their wives, daughters and mistresses get abortions, and force them to produce their medical records in discovery.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:42:29am
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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:45:17am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

This is witness tampering and interfering in ongoing federal investigations.

Prosecutors should be treating it accordingly.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:45:19am

re: #7 No Malarkey!

How the hell does this law work; do they get to force women to produce their medical records? Every Texas GOP legislator should be sued and accused of helping their wives, daughters and mistresses get abortions, and force them to produce their medical records in discovery.

My understanding is, it’s a normal civil lawsuit. Someone makes an accusation, the defense has to show up, if it survives a 12(b)(6) motion to dismiss (plaintiff has to show likelihood of success on the merits), it goes to discovery, in which case, yes, they would have to produce medical records, etc. Upon receiving a judgment in their favor, if it goes that far, plaintiffs would automatically be awarded attorney’s fees and a $10,000 cash judgment.

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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:45:24am

Iirc, we have a lizard down that way:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:46:17am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:47:44am

re: #2 lawhawk

So much for snitches get stiches.

In Texas, snitches get $10k and bounties for snitching on people they think had an abortion. No proof necessary to launch investigations or anything.

Yeah, what could possibly go wrong here, other than I don’t know, saying that Abbott and Paxton spouses both had abortions and someone needs to investigate what happened and why they’re covering up their own malfeasance?

Given how this is supposed to be “policed” by people, but ultimately state courts and authorities are involved, this gives state action to back up the law. That’s a roundabout method to shred the rule of law and should be ruled unconstitutional. It’s encouraging vigilantism.

Okay, these points are all valid if you assume a baseline of Amercian civil liberty as encoded in the Constitution….but the core premise of the Republican Party and American “conservatives” is that the state exists only to wield force in aid of their cultural positions against the non-compliant.

If you fill in the blanks from their perspective, the hazards aren’t hazards.

For example…this law will not be enforced in ways that disrupt existing hierarchies, so snitching against someone of a high Republican caste will not produce the same response from the state as snitching on someone deemed out-caste or untouchable.

That this law will periodically cause pain and suffering to loyal and compliant members of the caste system is a win, because the general rule that the lesser must bear the cruelty of the greater is more important than any particular assertion about the limits of state action.

And vigilantism isn’t vigilantism if you believe that society has a class that is inherently entitled to be cruel and use lethal force, so long as they do so against the classes that are viewed as inherently suspect and threatening.

Every time it seems like they’re hypocrites or the thing they’re doing is incoherent, it’s because in their minds the distinction—they are the real people entitled to total deference, the rest of us get what right they grant moment to moment—is just left unstated because most of them know that their core belief is not just anti-democratic but anti-social.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:49:21am

re: #13 The Ghost of a Flea

Every time it seems like they’re hypocrites or the thing they’re doing is incoherent, it’s because in their minds the distinction—they are the real people entitled to total deference, the rest of us get what right they grant moment to moment—is just left unstated because most of them know that their core belief is not just anti-democratic but anti-social.

They would insist that it is somehow “Biblical”…

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:49:32am

I just checked all of my battery powered radios and all are working. Batteries are charging. Cell phone, iPad and computer are charging. So far so good.

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Dangerman  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:50:22am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

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Simple question Kevin: what law?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:50:37am
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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:51:07am

re: #10 Dopamine Fish

My understanding is, it’s a normal civil lawsuit. Someone makes an accusation, the defense has to show up, if it survives a 12(b)(6) motion to dismiss (plaintiff has to show likelihood of success on the merits), it goes to discovery, in which case, yes, they would have to produce medical records, etc. Upon receiving a judgment in their favor, if it goes that far, plaintiffs would automatically be awarded attorney’s fees and a $10,000 cash judgment.

Then sue all the Texas GOP state legislators; let’s see how they like their wives, daughters and girlfriends medical records having to be opened up for public review.

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A Cranky One  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:52:09am

re: #15 PhillyPretzel

I just checked all of my battery powered radios and all are working. Batteries are charging. Cell phone, iPad and computer are charging. So far so good.

CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGEEEEEEEEE

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Dangerman  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:52:30am

re: #9 lawhawk

This is witness tampering and interfering in ongoing federal investigations.

Prosecutors should be treating it accordingly.

Also

In any event, in addition to being incredibly venal, this is extraordinarily stupid as a political maneuver. The telecomm companies may grant the 1/6 Commission’s requests, or may insist on a subpoena, but they aren’t going to respond to blackmail. Meanwhile, the message that is even louder and clearer than the implied threat is “We Republicans are scared witless of what those phone records will show.” If there was anything that might make the 1/6 Commission more determined to get those records, this is it. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) made the same observation on Chris Hayes’ show on MSNBC, though you don’t need to be a lawyer and a member of Congress to figure that out. There is clearly a lot of fire behind all the smoke.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:52:35am

re: #18 No Malarkey!

Then sue all the Texas GOP state legislators; let’s see how they like their wives, daughters and girlfriends medical records having to be opened up for public review.

But narrow it a bit. Watch for when they travel, especially out of state.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:57:00am

re: #18 No Malarkey!

Then sue all the Texas GOP state legislators; let’s see how they like their wives, daughters and girlfriends medical records having to be opened up for public review.

It would never get that far; as noted in a tweet above this post, a private citizen would have no way to gather enough evidence to survive a 12(b)(6) motion. However, that’s not the point. The point is to sue people who can’t afford to hire an attorney to defend, or who would be intimidated by the official process of a lawsuit - which precisely fits the nature of the law as an anti-abortion measure, since women having abortions are vulnerable and often not in the best financial position. And suits against the wealthy and powerful, and their mistresses, would fail because of the same lack of evidence, but because attorney’s fees are only awarded on success, the number of them would decrease rapidly as people decided it wasn’t worth it to continue trying. They really seem to have thought this one out.

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:57:04am

Those of you with the blue bird app, click the top corner of this image and tweet the fuck out of it.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:57:25am

re: #18 No Malarkey!

Then sue all the Texas GOP state legislators; let’s see how they like their wives, daughters and girlfriends medical records having to be opened up for public review.

Seems like a good way to clog up the Texas court system is with phony claims on non-existent women reported anonymously to Sheriffs offices around the state.

This new law is so unworkable in real life it’s almost as if a dystopian tribal supremacist religious cult thought it up.

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Dangerman  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:58:00am

re: #18 No Malarkey!

Then sue all the Texas GOP state legislators; let’s see how they like their wives, daughters and girlfriends medical records having to be opened up for public review.

Which still can’t prove a negative
Here’s all my medical records from my doctor.
Yeah, prove you didn’t go to that clinic 200 miles away and pay cash

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:58:11am

re: #21 Belafon

But narrow it a bit. Watch for when they travel, especially out of state.

Or to a physician or hospital. Make sure you watch their donors’ wives and daughters as well.

Hell, turn in their grandmothers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:58:27am

“Subject to losing their ability to operate in the United States.”

Sure, Republicans. Go ahead and shut down all the telecom companies and by extension a GINORMOUS part of the U.S. Economy. I’m sure that will get you a ton of support.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:58:37am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

r/malicious_compliance.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:59:50am

re: #14 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They would insist that it is somehow “Biblical”…

See. the thing that fascinates me…and makes this all hard to talk about…is that there’s this belief in hierarchy but only to the extent that they assume they are in a super-ordinate position to most other people.

They don’t even believe in one consistent pyramid-shaped order of people, just whatever is at hand that provides license by virtue of assigned superiority. Whiteness, God, Darwin, money, “Murica—they freely slide between essentialist qualities that make them superior in an opportunistic manner. It’s not belief because they don’t actually believe anything, they just decorate themselves with appeals-to-authority for the purposes of whatever rhetorical things they’re trying to get over.

As a direct consequence, absolutely nothing is fixed. There is no final authority or first cause that can tell them no, and when a “no” is asserted they seek out a different authority that will say yes.

I have been around many different varieties of religious fanatic and…this is an entirely different hazard.

It’s ur-ur-fascism, people so deep in narcissism that everything is just aesthetics orbiting a core of appetite. An episteme would just slow down the rate of consumption, so they don’t have one.

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A Cranky One  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:00:05am

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Dangerman  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:03:02am

re: #30 A Cranky One

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Wait till someone tries to order it in their mocha latte

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:04:17am

re: #31 Dangerman

Wait till someone tries to order it in their mocha latte

You won’t have to ask their name, just write “Karen” on the cup…

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:04:34am
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dharmamark  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:06:31am

re: #11 ckkatz

Not too far from us.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:06:37am

re: #33 lawhawk

I can see that Planned Parenthood is going to be sued out of TX.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:08:09am

re: #21 Belafon

But narrow it a bit. Watch for when they travel, especially out of state.

Like taking your daughter on a trip to Cancun?

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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:08:52am

re: #34 dharmamark

Not too far from us.

I hope you folks are safe.

So far, mostly random heavy rain showers up here in Reston.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:08:52am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:08:58am

re: #35 PhillyPretzel

I can see that Planned Parenthood is going to be sued out of TX.

again, an intended feature of the law

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:11:17am

re: #35 PhillyPretzel

I can see that Planned Parenthood is going to be sued out of TX.

That’s the plan.

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A Cranky One  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:11:26am

So TFG is complaining about the Dominion lawsuits, claiming “they are trying to silence people”.

This from the guy who demanded NDAs from everyone and declared libel laws should be changed to make it easier to sue.

I’d be happy if we could at least silence him.

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dharmamark  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:12:17am

re: #37 ckkatz

Thanks.
Y’all too.
We’re under a tornado watch at the moment, but just breezy and light rain down here in Fredericksburg.

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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:12:31am
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A Cranky One  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:14:11am

re: #42 dharmamark

Thanks.
Y’all too.
We’re under a tornado watch at the moment, but just breezy and light rain down here in Fredericksburg.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:14:43am

I’m off to bed. I hope everyone on the East Coast is marked safe from Ida today.

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:15:19am

A hearty FUCK YOU to Jill Stein voters in 2016.

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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:16:32am

re: #42 dharmamark

Yup, that cell that is now in PG County moved up the 301 corridor through King George County and Dahlgren less than an hour ago.

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Dangerman  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:17:27am

re: #43 ckkatz

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some politician some day

i am against abortion. i want to be very clear on this. i believe every abortion is a failure of leadership and a failure of society. like my opponent, i believe the ideal abortion rate in this (city, county, state, country) is zero. where my opponent and i differ is how to get there. they want to criminalize abortion and make it illegal and punishable by prison time. they want to make a horribly desperate situation more horrible and more desperate.

but there are policies that will bring the abortion rate down, and are proven to work. i’m talking about education, access to birth control, and community health clinics. these policies work. we have the data. but teaching abstinence only, making birth control harder to obtain and closing community health clinics is not just counterproductive to the goals they claim they want to achieve…it’s just cruel.

i am against abortion. There are humane ways to reduce them in our community dramatically.

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:17:59am

This abortion law in Texas will minimally inconvenience well-off folks while the poor will be viciously targeted. It’s baked into the law. The cruelty is the point.

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sagehen  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:19:21am

re: #46 teleskiguy

A hearty FUCK YOU to Jill Stein voters in 2016.

and the Bernie or Bust crowd.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:19:32am

re: #49 teleskiguy

This abortion law in Texas will minimally inconvenience well-off folks while the poor will be viciously targeted. It’s baked into the law. The cruelty is the point.

Basically pre-Roe, just at a state level.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:19:51am

Won’t this BS Texas law cause massive clogging of the courts?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:19:53am

re: #2 lawhawk

So much for snitches get stiches.

In Texas, snitches get $10k and bounties for snitching on people they think had an abortion. No proof necessary to launch investigations or anything.

Yeah, what could possibly go wrong here, other than I don’t know, saying that Abbott and Paxton spouses both had abortions and someone needs to investigate what happened and why they’re covering up their own malfeasance?

Given how this is supposed to be “policed” by people, but ultimately state courts and authorities are involved, this gives state action to back up the law. That’s a roundabout method to shred the rule of law and should be ruled unconstitutional. It’s encouraging vigilantism.

It’s worse than vigilantism, it is bounty hunting. There are going to be some weird and ugly incidents.

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Dangerman  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:20:09am

The Supreme Court are cowards

They could have said yes or no

Instead they’re hiding under their desks

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sagehen  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:21:12am

re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg

Won’t this BS Texas law cause massive clogging of the courts?

and because they can file in ANY county, women who can’t at the drop of a hat go appear in court 400 miles away lose by default, now they owe the plaintiff a bunch of money.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:21:20am

re: #54 Dangerman

The Supreme Court are cowards

They could have said yes or no

Instead they’re hiding under their desks

I suspect Barrett was the one who handled it. Possibly Roberts.

Democrats are going to need to figure out how to end the shadow docket decisions.

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:22:13am

re: #53 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

It’s worse than vigilantism, it is bounty hunting. There are going to be some weird and ugly incidents.

Ten large for every abortion. You don’t have to have any relations with the women seeking an abortion. You don’t even have to be a Texas resident to sue. Your Operation Rescue types are salivating right now.

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KingKenrod  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:23:30am

re: #56 Belafon

I suspect Barrett was the one who handled it. Possibly Roberts.

Democrats are going to need to figure out how to end the shadow docket decisions.

Scotus blog says it is Alito.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:24:26am

They know this is going to kill people…but they’re already in a head space where if a person dies then they deserved to die.

Pandemic, police shootings, wars, abortion, self-defense—they view all of these things through the same lens.

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:24:39am

I think everyone who is hospitalized after taking Ivermectin should be required by law to wear a veterinary collar for a week after their release.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:25:26am

Next up…everybody fleeing dying because of climate change just needs to die.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:25:26am

re: #60 darthstar

I think everyone who is hospitalized after taking Ivermectin should be required by law to wear a veterinary collar for a week after their release.

And be leashed if they go out.

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:26:32am

re: #62 Belafon

And be leashed if they go out.

And spayed or neutered so they don’t create more of themselves.

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:28:51am

This is just the beginning. Without real checks on the GQP’s authoritarian impulses we’re looking at red states becoming more like apartheid era South Africa in the very near future.

EXPAND THE SUPREME COURT

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:32:12am

re: #64 teleskiguy

This is just the beginning. Without real checks on the GQP’s authoritarian impulses we’re looking at red states becoming more like apartheid era South Africa.

EXPAND THE SUPREME COURT

There is a massive divide developing in America right now. There are the states that actually handled the pandemic, that are progressing on civil rights, defending human sanctity and the right to vote, and are rapidly proving themselves the best places to live in our country. Then there are the shithole states, the states that are dying of COVID (or people dying in hospital waiting rooms because the ICUs are full of COVID patients), where only the elite few white American Republicans can vote, where abortion is de facto outlawed and it’s becoming criminal to be black or brown or a woman. And if something isn’t done about it, there will be a civil war within many of our lifetimes, as one side or the other eventually gets fed up at “the other guys” refusing to see their side of the issues. (I have a feeling I know who will initiate that conflict, but nothing is certain.)

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Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:35:32am

To enforce their new anti-choice law (the impending lawsuits and the vigilantism written into the law), Texas will create a Customs and Border Protection agency to operate at their airports. Women suspected of having an abortion out of state will be stopped and escorted into a backroom where Aunt Lydia will perform an inspection of the woman in question. Oathkeepers and other militia-types will enforce the law on Texas roads by setting up checkpoints where women suspected of having an abortion will be escorted into a backroom where Aunt Lydia will perform an inspection of the woman in question. Commanders’ wives, girlfriends and mistresses will have full and complete access to birth control and abortion.

All brought to you by Americans who think the Handmaid’s Tale is a fucking instruction manual. I’m fucking furious. When secret networks are created to provide safe abortions for women, I’m all in.

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Dangerman  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:35:46am

re: #355 Belafon

Every time a business tries that, they either close or change their tune pretty quick.

——

way back when i wanted a hundred ‘gay’ couples to line up at the cake baker and see if he would really turn all that business away

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:35:48am

States with huge corporations like Georgia, Texas, Florida, etc. How do they intend to compete in a global market when their state governments are hellbent on turning their societies into proto-feudal backwaters? AT&T, Dell, American Airlines, Waste Management, all are headquartered in Texas. They can’t be happy about this caveman shit legislation.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:37:58am

re: #48 Dangerman

some politician some day

I suspect that it you wrote that out, Joe Biden would sign it.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:39:37am

Thank Bush and Trump voters for this.

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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:42:55am

And, yet another battle is about to open back up. I suspect that House and Senate Leadership are quite aware of this and have/are working to adress it.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:44:14am

re: #71 ckkatz

And, yet another battle is about to open back up. I suspect that House and Senate Leadership are quite aware of this and have/are working to adress it.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:44:55am

re: #68 teleskiguy

States with huge corporations like Georgia, Texas, Florida, etc. How do they intend to compete in a global market when their state governments are hellbent on turning their societies into proto-feudal backwaters? AT&T, Dell, American Airlines, Waste Management, all are headquartered in Texas. They can’t be happy about this caveman shit legislation.

Because 99% of their senior execs are white men as well as their Board of Directors, that’s why.

I can promise you people like Elon Musk building the massive Texas factory, the CEO’s of the oil companies and all the other tech giants in Austin don’t give a shit about abortion one way or the other as long as it doesn’t interfere with their business operations.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:44:58am

re: #68 teleskiguy

States with huge corporations like Georgia, Texas, Florida, etc. How do they intend to compete in a global market when their state governments are hellbent on turning their societies into proto-feudal backwaters? AT&T, Dell, American Airlines, Waste Management, all are headquartered in Texas. They can’t be happy about this caveman shit legislation.

Same way massive corporations operate in collapsed post-colonial states and literal civil wars: by looking at their saving versus their liabilities.

And generally the same states that do caveman laws also create both tax havens and block forms of protest and oversight.

Large capitalist entities have operated in fascist states, under communism, under dictatorships, and in entirely collapsed regions. All they need are cheap labor, enough physical infrastructure to get from a factory to a port, and a minimum of safety.

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:47:48am

re: #70 Nyet

Thank Bush and Trump voters for this.

We are perfectly capable of blaming Bush and Trump voters for this, along with the 2016 Jill Stein voters and Bernie or Busters who guaranteed the ascendancy of the Trumpers.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:50:48am

re: #75 A Three Hour Tour

We are perfectly capable of blaming Bush and Trump voters for this, along with the 2016 Jill Stein voters and Bernie or Busters who guaranteed the ascendancy of the Trumpers.

And Nader voters too!

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JOE 🥓  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:54:17am

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Expand the Supreme Court!

Charles Koch bought off Manchin and Sinema.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:58:04am

re: #60 darthstar

I think everyone who is hospitalized after taking Ivermectin should be required by law to wear a veterinary collar for a week after their release.

That should be the first triage point to divert self-medicators from scarce hospital care.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:58:31am

re: #68 teleskiguy

Coke is progressive as fuck but they are still headquartered in Atlanta. Companies find ways to justify it.

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Juan Carlos Mescalero  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:00:49pm

jfc

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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:04:15pm
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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:04:34pm

re: #80 Juan Carlos Mescalero

jfc

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Where is Johnstown?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:06:41pm

re: #82 Belafon

Where is Johnstown?

Pennsylvania.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:06:55pm

re: #82 Belafon

Where is Johnstown?

Pennsylvania

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Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:07:08pm

re: #82 Belafon

Where is Johnstown?

About 70 miles east (very slightly south) of Pittsburgh.

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rhuarc  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:07:12pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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I prefer to call them forced birthers.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:07:13pm

The Canary is dead.

Trump’s SCOTUS has followed orders and the final assault on democracy has begun. By ignoring Texas and its Stasi-esque Abortion Law it has given tacit approval to ignore any Constitutional decisions or matters of law. This has been the most public canary in the coal mine court matter during the past 50 years and now it is history, literally ignored to death.

What comes next in 2022 is the start of gross interference in elections by local Republican officials and open intimidation of Democratic voters by police and town officials. This will pave the way in 2024 for the complete takeover of every branch of the Federal Government by extreme right wing candidates using every tactic including outright fraud and machine tampering. This coup victory will give cover for the newly-expanded SCOTUS (packed with 9 more young extreme right Justices) to simply reverse any and all Civil Rights decisions and to criminalize protests and election organizing.

We are a fascist Hybrid state, as of now, joining the likes of Putin’s Russia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:08:18pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:08:29pm

re: #80 Juan Carlos Mescalero

Dang. Ida is making PA one heck of a mess.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:08:54pm

re: #89 PhillyPretzel

Dang. Ida is making PA one heck of a mess.

Stay safe, my scaly friends.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:09:43pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:10:06pm

She’s going to need a really nasty district.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:12:05pm

re: #77 JOE 🥓

Charles Koch bought off Manchin and Sinema.

I’ve been saying for years to look at their bank accounts.

And the Lesbian community in AZ still think Sinema is the bees knees because she ate a box lunch or 2.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:13:24pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

Forced birth extremists.

They aren’t pro life, as their insistence on supporting the death penalty, refusing to cover health care costs, education, or SNAP aid to children who are actually born.

They just want to control women by every means available to them.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:13:28pm

re: #78 jaunte

That should be the first triage point to divert self-medicators from scarce hospital care.

Tell them to go to the grifters who told them to eat horse paste.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:13:29pm

re: #89 PhillyPretzel

Dang. Ida is making PA one heck of a mess.

Us here in NW PA just caught the northern part of it as it went by. Rain but nothing heavy.

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Juan Carlos Mescalero  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:16:04pm

re: #82 Belafon

Scene of historic flood years ago. They kick the can down the road on upgrades to the dams.

en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:16:17pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:16:36pm

re: #94 lawhawk

Forced birth extremists.

They aren’t pro life, as their insistence on supporting the death penalty, refusing to cover health care costs, education, or SNAP aid to children who are actually born.

They just want to control women by every means available to them.

They want something to hold their shitty subculture together, and the kids weren’t going for the racism they depended on, so they turned to enslaving women as a substitute.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:17:09pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s amazing, and I hope that also bodes well for the recall. We really need to shut this partisan bullshit right the fuck down.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:18:07pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

Those numbers seem reassuring. Governor Larry Elder would be a disaster.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:18:11pm

re: #82 Belafon

Where is Johnstown?

Johnstown PA, site of one of the worst dam break disasters in US history - where more than 2,200 died when a dam operated by a bunch of wealthy millionaires failed after rains due to improper design/maintenance. None of the millionaires ever were held accountable. The court case found that it was an Act of God, not negligence and improper maintenance/adjustment to dam design.

Frick and Carnegie were both involved, and both played philanthropist in the aftermath.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:21:42pm
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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:24:23pm

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

Pennsylvania.

Is this the same Jonestown that had the legendary massive flood in 1889 when the dam for a fishing reserve for millionaires collapsed?

Edit: I should read all the way down before posting.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:24:37pm

I used to call myself “pro-life” because I personally would not choose to have an abortion for myself, even though I thought it was wrong to prevent others from making their own decisions about pregnancy. What turned me around was the horrific and unnecessary death of Savita Halappanavar in 2012 in Ireland.

Even though abortion was illegal in Ireland, it was permitted in order to save a woman’s life, and Savita was in grave danger from an infection. Because of dithering about and the hospital waiting too long to terminate the pregnancy, Savita and her unborn baby passed away.

In life-threatening conditions such as sepsis and preeclampsia, time is of the essence and the situation can become dire in hours or even minutes, while hospital administrators (bureaucrats, not doctors) take days, if not weeks to cut through the red tape for critical exemptions that could have saved Savita.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:24:59pm

Or they’ll be sued.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:25:34pm
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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:26:00pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pretty sure it all evaporated before they made it out.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:26:11pm

re: #104 stpaulbear

Is this the same Jonestown that had the legendary massive flood in 1889 when the dam for a fishing reserve for millionaires collapsed?

The one in the same.

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aatharuv  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:27:15pm

re: #106 jaunte

Or they’ll be sued.

Will the Texas 1836 Project explain how Texas seceded from Mexico for the right to deny liberty to African slaves?

Why do I suspect the answer is no?

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:27:23pm

So surprising that most insurrectionists are also anti-vaxxers.

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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:30:14pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, that’s the tornado/storm cell that I mentioned earlier in the thread. It’s been fascinating following its progress from down in Virginia.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:32:22pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:34:35pm

Downpour in NE Philly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:35:18pm

re: #106 jaunte

“boundless prosperity”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:35:53pm

re: #113 Sherlock Hound

Oh please let this asshole show up on that website in about five weeks.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:37:15pm

That was short. But the clouds in the west look like they have more.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:37:58pm

re: #115 Eclectic Cyborg

“For us wheeler-dealers at the top.”

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:37:58pm

re: #117 PhillyPretzel

That was short. But the clouds in the west look like they have more.

It finally rained enough here this week that my sump pump started running again. So I can at least confirm that it still works.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:39:03pm
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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:39:23pm

Mike Dunford’s take on the inaction of the Supreme Court. On one hand, he makes the good point that the Texas law shows how to McGyver anything. No matter how illegal. On the other, hand, he does not accept the possibility that the Supreme Court will rule that the process is legal for things they personally like and illegal for things they don’t like.

Behind the private label because it is 8 tweets long.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:39:29pm

re: #111 No Malarkey!

Yeah. About that…

scitechdaily.com

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:39:36pm
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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:41:22pm

re: #355 Belafon

Every time a business tries that, they either close or change their tune pretty quick.

They’ll get a little bit of traffic from like-minded assholes, but that doesn’t last long. And they could lose a lot of regular customers in the process.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:42:15pm

re: #121 ckkatz

I’d argue that this Court will pick and choose what they deem legitimate and permissible based not on the law but on their right wing views. They will strike down a NY gun control law using the same construction as the TX abortion law, because guns are different than abortion.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:48:43pm
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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:49:10pm

Leon Jaworski’s grandson.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:49:33pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:50:13pm

re: #127 jaunte

Leon Jaworski’s grandson.

You think Jenkins is going to run?

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:52:11pm

re: #129 Dave In Austin

Probably.

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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:52:26pm

re: #112 ckkatz

Yes, that’s the tornado/storm cell that I mentioned earlier in the thread. It’s been fascinating following its progress from down in Virginia.

Looks like the storm cell is in Northern Maryland now, heading towards Wilmington, Delaware and Philadelphia. I’d be very surprised if it reached either, though.

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:54:24pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

I call them forced-birth because that’s all the want. Once the child is born they could care less if/how it dies.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:55:53pm

re: #132 William Lewis

I call them forced-birth because that’s all the want. Once the child is born they could care less if/how it dies.

Once it’s born, it’s a red-blooded ‘Murican, which means it needs to pull itself by its own bootstraps, or die trying.

(That was part of my imaginary epic speech to my parents in my dream last night.)

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:57:50pm

re: #132 William Lewis

I call them forced-birth because that’s all the want. Once the child is born they could care less if/how it dies.

“couldn’t care less”

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 12:59:21pm

re: #128 Teddy’s Person

I just turned in Ted Cruz for taking his daughters to Cancun for suspected abortions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:01:16pm

re: #134 Belafon

“couldn’t care less”

They could care less, they just don’t want to…

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:02:15pm

re: #134 Belafon

“couldn’t care less”

Sad part is I usually get that right.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:02:26pm

re: #135 darthstar

I just turned in Ted Cruz for taking his daughters to Cancun for suspected abortions.

😂😂

Ted himself said he went b/c the kids wanted to go.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:03:13pm

re: #134 Belafon

“couldn’t care less”

learnersdictionary.com

In informal English, “could care less” is considered acceptable. I rankles me, too, but…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:04:07pm

re: #139 Colère Tueur de Lapin

learnersdictionary.com

In informal English, “could care less” is considered acceptable. I rankles me, too, but…

Just between you and I, its upsetting…

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:06:20pm

Pro-covid Kentucky legislators want to make campuses Covid incubators. Fortunately, the legislative session doesn’t begin until January.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:06:38pm

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just between you and I, its upsetting…

😂😂

You have just won the internet for the day my lizardy friend.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:07:00pm
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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:09:20pm

Republicans, the incest-enabler party.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:10:04pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:11:12pm

re: #145 jaunte

Basically, Texan women need to test weekly for both Covid and pregnancy…

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:12:02pm

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Basically, Texan women need to test weekly for both Covid and pregnancy…

Sure, but is the state going to pay for that?

…don’t laugh, I’m super serial!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:13:03pm

So, there will be many more abortions done in New Mexico and Texas women will have to travel perhaps hundreds of miles to obtain an abortion.

This kind of thing can go on for a while, but I believe it is not long-term stable.

The Texas theocrats are going to run up against push back by all those corporations they keep trying to move to Texas. And there will be pushback from the electorate, eventually.

Any incident where a vigilante tries to enforce this twisted law will spark push back.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:13:09pm

Whip it in, whip it out, wipe it off and worry.

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Juan Carlos Mescalero  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:14:04pm

re: #117 PhillyPretzel

That was short. But the clouds in the west look like they have more.

They have much more.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:16:01pm

FREEEEDUMB!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:17:09pm

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Basically, Texan women need to test weekly for both Covid and pregnancy…

No no no. We can’t test for Covid. We need to keep case numbers down!

/

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:17:40pm

re: #151 No Malarkey!

FREEEEDUMB!

Nobody could have predicted that dead teachers would be a bad look for a school district.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:18:23pm

re: #153 darthstar

Nobody could have predicted that dead teachers would be a bad look for a school district.

Probably just overweight.

Lazy teachers.

/

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:20:43pm

I have to say, I am enjoying McCarthy’s continued time bent over the barrel.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:21:06pm

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Probably just overweight.

Lazy teachers.

/

I read on Facebook that Critical Race Theory really fucks with your immune system. So really, those teachers had it coming. //

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Cheechako  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:23:13pm

Break Time

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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:24:16pm

re: #157 Cheechako

I’ll drink to that! :)

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DesertDenizen  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:26:12pm

re: #148 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This piece of shit law accounts for that. Even if performed outside of Texas you can be sued, along with anyone who helped you travel. Your driver, your friend who gave you gas money, both liable under the law.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:27:53pm

re: #159 DesertDenizen

This piece of shit law accounts for that. Even if performed outside of Texas you can be sued, along with anyone who helped you travel. Your driver, your friend who gave you gas money, both liable under the law.

and all it takes is someone to rat on you and the courts can subject you to a medical examination?

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Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:28:31pm

re: #157 Cheechako

Break Time

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Moments ago, I wondered if it was too early to open a bottle of wine. This meme has convinced me that day drinking it is. 🍷

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:29:07pm
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DesertDenizen  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:30:44pm

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It goes to court for a motion to dismiss first, but if it doesn’t get dismissed then it does sound like records are subpoenaed. Good luck proving a negative, or that you naturally miscarried.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:31:32pm

re: #163 DesertDenizen

It goes to court for a motion to dismiss first, but if it doesn’t get dismissed then it does sound like records are subpoenaed. Good luck proving a negative, or that you naturally miscarried.

and it is up to you, the defendant to prove that you are “innocent” of this “heinous crime”? Can’t they just throw you in the pond and see if you float or sink?

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DesertDenizen  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:32:22pm

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because it’s a civil trial, apparently so. And if you lose you pay the plaintiff 10K plus attorney fees.

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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:34:59pm

re: #131 ckkatz
The weather is getting interesting(er)…

A tornado southwest of Philly and another in Maryland’s Eastern Shore. That second one might be the same one that was in Virginia at the confluence of the Potomac and the Chesapeake Bay.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:37:03pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:37:22pm

re: #166 ckkatz

Here is the latest map from NWS. It is not pretty.
weather.gov

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:37:35pm

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and it is up to you, the defendant to prove that you are “innocent” of this “heinous crime”? Can’t they just throw you in the pond and see if you float or sink?

Normally in civil cases, the plaintiff has to prove it’s more likely than not that they are entitled to a judgment. I think the plan is to sue PP in every county in Texas until they have to close.

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:38:56pm

re: #162 Patricia Kayden

Chicago Tribune
@chicagotribune
A southern Illinois man was charged with killing his half-brother after a dispute over the COVID-19 vaccine, authorities said.

This is kind of why I don’t stop to visit my sister when I’m heading up north. She’s been a “proud Glock owner” for years (I hear her say this to my nephew) and has gone Q crazy. I don’t trust her anymore.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:39:02pm
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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:39:05pm

re: #162 Patricia Kayden

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He died of Covid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:40:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:40:29pm
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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:42:49pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

Sorry to hear that. It looks like it has mostly passed through the DC Region and is directly pestering you folks.

I hope that you stay safe.

Interestingly, it looks like it is, so far anyway, going west of NYC.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:43:55pm

re: #175 ckkatz

We will see what happens.

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:44:16pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

Next step: Giving grampa daddy parental rights.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:49:37pm
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Romantic Heretic  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:53:24pm

re: #13 The Ghost of a Flea

In sum: The law protects them but does not bind them. For those not deemed ‘proper’ the law binds but does not protect.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:53:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:54:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:54:44pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

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EPR-radar  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:55:22pm

re: #179 Romantic Heretic

In sum: The law protects them but does not bind them. For those not deemed ‘proper’ the law binds but does not protect.

Precisely. All of the masks are coming off, and we are likely to live to see “Republicans have legal rights but no legal obligations, non-republicans have legal obligations but no legal rights” passed in at least one red-state legislature, verbatim.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:56:55pm

re: #16 Dangerman

We’re working on it. Give us time!

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:59:03pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 1:59:10pm

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:02:34pm

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

Someone should sue Abbott for causing post-birth abortions.

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:03:02pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

We watched a bro-scientist who swallowed the goo.
He hasn’t a clue, he swallowed the goo he don’t neigh or moo.
Perhaps he’ll poo.

Edited.

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:03:11pm

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

That is an epic side-eye!

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A Cranky One  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:06:09pm

America…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:06:19pm
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Romantic Heretic  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:07:15pm

re: #59 The Ghost of a Flea

They know this is going to kill people…but they’re already in a head space where if a person dies then they deserved to die.

Pandemic, police shootings, wars, abortion, self-defense—they view all of these things through the same lens.

The Tree of Liberty must be watered with blood!

I wonder how long it will be before they start chanting, “Blood for The Blood God! Skulls for The Skull Throne!”

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:08:47pm

Good martial arts demo

MP4 Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:08:51pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:10:03pm
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Romantic Heretic  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:10:31pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

Even though I’m just watching the video I am hiding all my sharp objects. In case those crazy fuckers reach through the screen and stab me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:10:51pm
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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:10:58pm
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steve_davis  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:11:34pm

re: #2 lawhawk

So much for snitches get stiches.

In Texas, snitches get $10k and bounties for snitching on people they think had an abortion. No proof necessary to launch investigations or anything.

Yeah, what could possibly go wrong here, other than I don’t know, saying that Abbott and Paxton spouses both had abortions and someone needs to investigate what happened and why they’re covering up their own malfeasance?

Given how this is supposed to be “policed” by people, but ultimately state courts and authorities are involved, this gives state action to back up the law. That’s a roundabout method to shred the rule of law and should be ruled unconstitutional. It’s encouraging vigilantism.

this has got to, on a very basic level of law, get overturned by the first person who is harmed by it and sues. I cannot imagine that even this supreme court can allow a law to stand in which, without even providing proof, someone sues someone else in court for getting an abortion, or for not getting an abortion but having a malicious neighbor. The first person who gets sued and for whom there is no actual evidence outside of the accusation has an absolute case of defamation against the other party. Hell, I would probably, if I were a woman and had a miscarriage, do everything in my power to make it look like I had an abortion, just so some nosey do-gooder would sue me, after which I would bring a 700 dollar an hour rainmaker in from a boutique firm and I would get medieval on somebody with a defamation suit.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:14:22pm

Joe Rogan is the ideological and business successor of Rush Limbaugh and Art Bell.

America has long been full of easily deceived, and prone to delusion, know-nothings.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:14:32pm

This is the future Liberals want.

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:15:49pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s a YouTube channel I kind of like where the owner just moved to TX. It’s all I can do to not leave comments asking how happy he and his wife are with the move, except I don’t want to hear him say that he loves it. He would have known this was all coming before he made the move.

Another guy I watch is moving from TX to CA and he’s getting so much crap in his comments.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:17:01pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:17:04pm

A rumble of thunder and an emergency warning of possible tornado.

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:17:08pm

The opening sequence to the newest entry in the Star Trek universe was released.

Star Trek: Prodigy | Main Title Sequence | Paramount+

I am so looking forward to this one.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:17:19pm
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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:18:10pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know Clownstick Jr is a clown, but the other fucktards howling about this, what did they think we were going to do? Take away all the equipment we gave the Afghan Army over the course of 20 years as we were leaving then expect them to fight the Taliban with… what? Harsh language? Instead of it taking a day or two for the Taliban to take over, it would have been what? 20 minutes maybe?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:19:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:20:30pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:23:12pm

re: #202 stpaulbear

There’s a YouTube channel I kind of like where the owner just moved to TX. It’s all I can do to not leave comments asking how happy he and his wife are with the move, except I don’t want to hear him say that he loves it. He would have known this was all coming before he made the move.

Another guy I watch is moving from TX to CA and he’s getting so much crap in his comments.

As someone who is living in Texas, I cannot describe the depth of depression I am currently in.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:24:21pm

re: #210 Dave In Austin

As someone who is living in Texas, I cannot describe the depth of depression I am currently in.

I’ve been wanting to visit Austin forever, but Texas is making it really hard for me to justify putting money into their economy.

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Jay C  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:24:29pm

re: #207 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I know Clownstick Jr is a clown, but the other fucktards howling about this, what did they think we were going to do? Take away all the equipment we gave the Afghan Army over the course of 20 years as we were leaving then expect them to fight the Taliban with… what? Harsh language? Instead of it taking a day or two for the Taliban to take over, it would have been what? 20 minutes maybe?

Sorry, Jack: you seem to expecting some sort of logical processes at work with the Howler Monkeys. Bashing a Dem President and Administration is all that matters: wrapping it up in yellow ribbons and piss-moaning about the Taliban is really all that matters.

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:25:14pm

re: #210 Dave In Austin

As someone who is living in Texas, I cannot describe the depth of depression I am currently in.

I’m wondering how long it will be until there’s refugees in other states.

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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:25:36pm

I think that this was posted to lgf earlier, but in light of the variant naming discussion, it’s too good to not repeat:

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mmmirele  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:26:03pm

re: #66 Teddy’s Person

Women suspected of having an abortion out of state will be stopped and escorted into a backroom where Aunt Lydia will perform an inspection of the woman in question.

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I can see some woman pulling her foot/feet out of the stirrups and kicking the shit out of any doctor or Aunt Lydia. And I hope they do!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:26:12pm
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Jay C  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:27:06pm

Well, black clouds, whipping winds and pouring rain just socked in over The Big Apple: must be the remnants of Ida touring the City…..

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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:27:19pm

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve been wanting to visit Austin forever, but Texas is making it really hard for me to justify putting money into their economy.

Don’t come. Don’t spend your money on ANY Texas based company.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:28:23pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that tweet should be repeated often.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:28:33pm

re: #213 stpaulbear

I’m wondering how long it will be until there’s refugees in other states.

Serious conversation with the wife about this coming.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:29:53pm

re: #218 Dave In Austin

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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:30:39pm

re: #221 Eclectic Cyborg

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Orange Impostor  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:34:44pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

Ten large for every abortion. You don’t have to have any relations with the women seeking an abortion. You don’t even have to be a Texas resident to sue. Your Operation Rescue types are salivating right now.

Given the nature of this law, there are going to be individuals who will take it as a green light to become the next Scott Roeder or Eric Rudolph.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:35:05pm

re: #215 mmmirele

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I can see some woman pulling her foot/feet out of the stirrups and kicking the shit out of any doctor or Aunt Lydia. And I hope they do!

Warning, possible TMI

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:36:38pm

dailykos.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:38:44pm

re: #210 Dave In Austin

As someone who is living in Texas, I cannot describe the depth of depression I am currently in.

For those in Texas, I think you may have to consider public protests.

In large numbers.

Really large numbers.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:40:19pm
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:42:36pm

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve been wanting to visit Austin forever, but Texas is making it really hard for me to justify putting money into their economy.

The only way I’ll visit TX is if I need to change planes. And no way I’m leaving the airport.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:42:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:45:33pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:46:30pm

Funny misunderstanding today.

“Whew I’m sore. I spent the whole morning edging”

“Don’t brag”

“Wut?”

“I don’t need to hear about your sex life”

“Hey now I was talking YARD WORK.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:47:11pm

re: #91 jaunte

Not really accurate:

infant mortality in Texas seems about average for US: cdc.gov

maternal mortality is worse than average but not the worst; Louisiana, Georgia, and Indiana have higher rates : worldpopulationreview.com

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:47:24pm

I discovered the reddit /r/HermanCainAwards sub today…jesus what a dark place that is. Yeah, schadenfreude is a dangerous drug.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:53:14pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:53:21pm

re: #228 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

The only way I’ll visit TX is if I need to change planes. And no way I’m leaving the airport.

FWIW I’m not sure DFW should actually be considered “Texas”. In the past I’ve changed planes there a great many times, but never found my way out of the airport. I consider it to be its own mini-universe, sort of a bubble universe.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:53:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:54:06pm
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:54:56pm

re: #235 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

FWIW I’m not sure DFW should actually be considered “Texas”. In the past I’ve changed planes there a great many times, but never found my way out of the airport. I consider it to be its own mini-universe, sort of a bubble universe.

And it’s under federal jurisdiction.

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:55:45pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

He took monoclonal antibodies and steroids to reduce inflammation. That’s why he’s able to tout ivermectin as one of the drugs he took. Should have just let the disease run its course with him.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:55:49pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

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Is Joe Rogan taking this? I hear it’s extra tasty!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 2:56:26pm

thread

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:00:14pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:03:57pm

Does anyone know where or if I can find statistics regarding how many people recover from Covid AFTER being put on a ventilator?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:04:27pm

Now a flash flood warning. I really hate Ida. Hmm. It would be nice if we could give some of this rain to the west where they need the water.

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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:04:29pm

My patience for ‘Do Something’ Twitter is at its absolute nadir right now.

The fact that we have tenuous control of the Senate on paper and a slim control of the House, along with the White House, does not constitute ‘Complete Control’ in practice. And as we’ve seen, pressure on the two holdouts that subvert our control of the Senate has only hardened their opposition, rather than make them waffle, because they know they have us perfectly by the balls and can tip control back to the Republicans with a single phone call.

So I ask: what the fuck legislation do you think this current Congress can actually pass that would fix this Texas horseshit? What realistic avenues do we have right now other than ‘Bully Manchin or Sinema or you prove all Dems actually want this!’?

Because fuck everything.

We’re really going to lose 2022 on the basis of ‘Do Something’, aren’t we?

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:06:03pm

re: #244 PhillyPretzel

Now a flash flood warning. I really hate Ida. Hmm. It would be nice if we could give some of this rain to the west where they need the water.

Well thanks for the thought anyway.

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mmmirele  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:07:52pm

re: #157 Cheechako

Break Time

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It’s always Wine O’Clock.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:08:42pm
The Cyberspace Administration of China has issued draft rules to prevent companies from developing algorithmic models that encourage users to spend significant amounts of money, or to spend money in a manner that could be disruptive to public order. The draft rules would enable Chinese authorities to review algorithms and request fixes if they are deemed necessary. The rules would affect some of the biggest tech companies in China, including Alibaba Group. Trivium China’s Kendra Schaefer noted, “This policy marks the moment that China’s tech regulation is not simply keeping pace with data regulations in the European Union but has gone beyond them.”

reuters.com

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aatharuv  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:08:59pm

re: #245 Citizen K

My patience for ‘Do Something’ Twitter is at its absolute nadir right now.

The fact that we have tenuous control of the Senate on paper and a slim control of the House, along with the White House, does not constitute ‘Complete Control’ in practice. And as we’ve seen, pressure on the two holdouts that subvert our control of the Senate has only hardened their opposition, rather than make them waffle, because they know they have us perfectly by the balls and can tip control back to the Republicans with a single phone call.

So I ask: what the fuck legislation do you think this current Congress can actually pass that would fix this Texas horseshit? What realistic avenues do we have right now other than ‘Bully Manchin or Sinema or you prove all Dems actually want this!’?

Because fuck everything.

We’re really going to lose 2022 on the basis of ‘Do Something’, aren’t we?

The only answer to “Do Something” twitter is, throw your energy to support the most liberal person who is likely to win your state’s next Senate election. A “corporate sellout” who is a Democrat is better than a Theocratic Republican. West Virginia isn’t going to elect anyone more liberal than Joe Manchin. That might not be the case elsewhere.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:10:30pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:12:56pm

re: #244 PhillyPretzel

Now a flash flood warning. I really hate Ida. Hmm. It would be nice if we could give some of this rain to the west where they need the water.

Down here in MD, I’ve been getting flash food warnings for the last two weeks.

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:13:42pm

re: #227 Dave In Austin

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:15:29pm

re: #243 Eclectic Cyborg

Does anyone know where or if I can find statistics regarding how many people recover from Covid AFTER being put on a ventilator?

Try Google, the all knowing. I’m betting the odds are not very good.

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aatharuv  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:16:43pm

re: #248 Belafon

reuters.com

Regardless of any potential benefits to their citizens, the PRC is doing this because they fear the growth any potential power center other than the Communist Party which they feel can ultimately lead to the breakup and colonization of China. Look at the Opium War, the Taiping Rebellion, Boxer Rebellion, etc for why China is doing this.

It’s the same reason they cracked down on Falun Gong*, are preventing Taiwan from participating in international fora or having actual diplomatic relations with most countries, have cracked down on or committed far worse against Tibet, Xinjiang, and Hong Kong and also why they shut Jack Ma up.

*Yes, they’re arguably a cult

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austin_blue  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:17:08pm

re: #210 Dave In Austin

As someone who is living in Texas, I cannot describe the depth of depression I am currently in.

She Who Must Be Obeyed will suddenly tear up and mumble “fucking bastards” under her breath. Been happening all day. It’s been brutal, and they aren’t half done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:17:42pm
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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:21:10pm

Another very bad day during the Kentucky pandemic.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:24:22pm

re: #210 Dave In Austin

As someone who is living in Texas, I cannot describe the depth of depression I am currently in.

It really should be pointed out that the right-wing loves to bag on California. “Move to Texas”. Taxes, environmental rules, yadda yadda. I’m really feeling for you good people in Texas.

At this point, they may as well advertise as The Misogynist State. Because some states, like my home of California, will welcome anyone back, anyone in to begin with, and especially Afghani families fleeing the other misogynist regime.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:24:50pm
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:25:16pm

re: #257 No Malarkey!

Another very bad day during the Kentucky pandemic.

Kentucky has ~80% the population of Minnesota and ~350% of the new active cases. Something ain’t workin’.

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:25:59pm
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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:26:32pm

re: #260 Dopamine Fish

Kentucky has ~80% the population of Minnesota and ~350% of the new active cases. Something ain’t workin’.

Minnesota must have a lot more horse paste.//

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:26:50pm
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:27:58pm

re: #262 No Malarkey!

Minnesota must have a lot more horse paste.//

There is a horse farmer just up the road. If COVID should ever strike my home again, I should be set.///

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:28:25pm

re: #263 Rightwingconspirator

Stormy is more christian than most white evangelicals.

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:29:23pm

I’ve been reading about how the Sackler’s have gotten the bankruptcy court to shield them from the consequences of their actions in future lawsuits. For those here with more legal knowledge than me (Oh, Lawhawk?) can this be appealed by anyone or otherwise overturned?

Given the huge amount of damage done to so many in this nation for the sake of their profits, this is almost as bad as the news out of Texas.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:30:36pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:33:50pm
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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:34:01pm

re: #265 No Malarkey!

re: #265 No Malarkey!

Stormy is more christian than most white evangelicals.

I snarfed that thought from you.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:35:19pm

Now a 2nd Tornado warning. At least this on will expire at 645 PM.

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EPR-radar  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:35:35pm

re: #260 Dopamine Fish

Kentucky has ~80% the population of Minnesota and ~350% of the new active cases. Something ain’t workin’.

Conservative politics are working in KY as intended. For the GOP, because there is a D president, there must be a disaster.

Therefore they all do what they can to make covid (already a disaster) as bad as possible, from the talking head and donor class psychopaths all the way down to the paste-eaters in the sticks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:39:15pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:42:06pm

re: #262 No Malarkey!

Minnesota must have a lot more horse paste.//

I wonder what the correlation looks like between elementary school eaters of paste and adult eaters of horse paste.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:42:52pm

re: #273 wrenchwench

I wonder what the correlation looks like between elementary school eaters of paste and adult eaters of horse paste.

Probably pretty high, if I had to guess.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:43:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:45:50pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:46:53pm

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

I randomly dyslex a letter here and there.

Vaccinated people are like wet dogs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:47:14pm
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:48:09pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:50:40pm

They let her evade them for the duration of her vacation, arresting her when she arrived at the airport for her return flight. I hope she was at least stressed the whole time.
Chloe Mrozak Of Oak Lawn Charged For Having Counterfeit COVID Vaccine Card In Hawaii (CBS via MSN)

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:51:56pm

Oh, hey everyone who likes Krispy Kreme donuts:

Show your vax card for 2 free donuts

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gwangung  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:53:17pm

re: #281 Punish Domestic Terrorists

They let her evade them for the duration of her vacation, arresting her when she arrived at the airport for her return flight. I hope she was at least stressed the whole time.
Chloe Mrozak Of Oak Lawn Charged For Having Counterfeit COVID Vaccine Card In Hawaii (CBS via MSN)

Fuck her.

She’s screwing over the native population of Hawaii, who are both hard hit and poor (fewer resources to combat Covid). And she’s like so many other tourists, entitled as hell, and probably flouting all the local regulations.

Throw the book at her.

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:54:04pm

So we’re sitting in our basement because apparently EF2 tornadoes are rampaging through Camden County like drunk kaiju.

Fun times.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2021 • 3:59:01pm

re: #283 gwangung

Hawaiian Hotel - SNL

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:00:19pm

Night Lizards.

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:02:10pm

re: #284 Mattand

So we’re sitting in our basement because apparently EF2 tornadoes are rampaging through Camden County like drunk kaiju.

Fun times.

Update: three confirmed sightings in South Jersey. All within 20 miles south and east of Philly.

ABC just reported wires down in my town.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:03:22pm

re: #287 Mattand

Be careful and stay safe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:03:32pm
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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:04:51pm

Sue me. Texas style . But, I now have a reason to stay up a bit later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:06:58pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:07:00pm

re: #282 William Lewis

Oh, hey everyone who likes Krispy Kreme donuts:

Show your vax card for 2 free donuts

Gonna have to pass. The round trip to the nearest Krispy Kreme just ain’t worth it.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:08:06pm
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Mattand  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:08:39pm

re: #288 PhillyPretzel

Be careful and stay safe.

You too. ABC 6 just said there was catastrophic in Beverly, heading towards Levittown. Apparently the damn thing just hit the Pennsylvania Turnpike connector bridge

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:08:46pm

The first tweet is a thread, but I wanted to include this reply:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:11:13pm
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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:11:37pm

re: #266 William Lewis

Bankruptcy courts have wide latitude here, so I don’t think there’s any chance it will be appealed. This was a deal multiple states and parties were willing to agree to this mess. They’ll take the money, even if the individual Sacklers are not held criminally accountable.

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:11:54pm

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

Christ, that like 20 miles from me.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:12:02pm

re: #254 aatharuv

Regardless of any potential benefits to their citizens, the PRC is doing this because they fear the growth any potential power center other than the Communist Party which they feel can ultimately lead to the breakup and colonization of China. Look at the Opium War, the Taiping Rebellion, Boxer Rebellion, etc for why China is doing this.

It’s the same reason they cracked down on Falun Gong*, are preventing Taiwan from participating in international fora or having actual diplomatic relations with most countries, have cracked down on or committed far worse against Tibet, Xinjiang, and Hong Kong and also why they shut Jack Ma up.

*Yes, they’re arguably a cult

I was listening to a group of scholars who contributed to book on the history of the CCP (or the CPC as they now prefer), and some said the best analogy is the Catholic church.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:12:57pm

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:13:09pm

re: #292 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Gonna have to pass. The round trip to the nearest Krispy Kreme just ain’t worth it.

My problem as well but I thought I’d let others know.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:13:44pm

Tornado warnings up for Central and Southern NJ, including tornado on the ground along the Delaware River heading towards Trenton in the next few minutes. Flash flood warnings in effect. Flood warnings in effect.

We are likely seeing 3-6 inches of rain from this storm, and the ground remains saturated, meaning runoff is going to spill into rivers that are running high.

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:15:12pm

re: #297 lawhawk

Bankruptcy courts have wide latitude here, so I don’t think there’s any chance it will be appealed. This was a deal multiple states and parties were willing to agree to this mess. They’ll take the money, even if the individual Sacklers are not held criminally accountable.

That’s what I was afraid of. Thank you for the information.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:16:06pm

re: #248 Belafon

reuters.com

But Europe’s data regulations are concerned way more with privacy and control of personal data.

China doesn’t give a tinker’s damn about that. It just doesn’t want people “wasting time” according to their definition. That’s what’s behind everything they are doing with the internet now. There’s nothing good about China’s reasoning, even if they do some good things in the process. It’s a stopped clock.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:16:25pm

re: #270 PhillyPretzel

Now a 2nd Tornado warning. At least this on will expire at 645 PM.

Just thought we’d share.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:16:44pm

re: #284 Mattand

So we’re sitting in our basement because apparently EF2 tornadoes are rampaging through Camden County like drunk kaiju.

Fun times.

Upding for rampaging.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:17:28pm

Stay safe folks. I feel a bit lucky having driven down from NH to College Park to drop my kid off on Saturday and driving back up on Sunday under good conditions (weather, not traffic).

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:17:33pm

re: #306 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Upding for rampaging.

I live to serve.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:17:41pm
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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:18:40pm

re: #200 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:19:59pm

re: #302 lawhawk

Tornado warnings up for Central and Southern NJ, including tornado on the ground along the Delaware River heading towards Trenton in the next few minutes. Flash flood warnings in effect. Flood warnings in effect.

We are likely seeing 3-6 inches of rain from this storm, and the ground remains saturated, meaning runoff is going to spill into rivers that are running high.

Tornado warnings here just expired, but Trenton is getting its ass kicked right now.

Hopefully this’ll burn out by the time it hits you guys up there.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:20:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:21:02pm

re: #301 William Lewis

My problem as well but I thought I’d let others know.

Google maps showed a Krispy Kreme store that was near enough to go to. But, I know for a fact that it now an Arby’s, since I picked up two gyros there like two weeks ago. It’s been an Arby’s for more than a few years now

lol

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A Mom Anon  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:21:20pm

Yesterday’s rainfall total was nearly 4 inches. We found the garage and basement flooded. I dried the carpet with two dozen towels the best I could and got some fans going. Hopefully the carpet down there isn’t ruined.

Today we got new gutters installed, we’ve had to put it off many times because of all the rains this summer. I hope that helps some with this mess. Our old gutters were wrecked, they were original to the house, built in 1978. More things we can’t afford, but there’s not much choice there.

Still fighting with doctors and insurance. I needed to take a break from that to clean up a flooded laundry room(not carpeted thank god,but the rest of the basement is, not so fun). , so the battle rages on.

I would adore having some fucking fun, just for a damned day to two. JFC with a bucket of KFC.

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:21:39pm

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

For context, a lot of that area is SE of Philly. It’s not exactly rural but it’s lot more open space than by me.

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:23:00pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

A senior GOP member predicted the effort would fall flat: “Is Biden paying them to change the subject?”

Thanks, Joe.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:23:10pm

Right now in NE Philly it is pouring. I can hear it on my front window.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:23:33pm
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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:24:08pm

re: #311 Mattand

Nighttime bad weather is the worst weather.

With daylight, you have a chance of seeing storms before they hit and you’re awake.

Nighttime, we’re flying blind and relying on weather services to issue alerts and get us time to get to a safe spot.

Guess I’ve got a real sleepless night ahead. Sheetz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:27:00pm
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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:28:06pm

2 active tornado warnings - 1 over Trenton. That one is a long duration storm and continues to show significant winds over a wide area. It’s moving off towards the NE. A second tornado warning for Hunterdon moving NE at 50-60 mph moving towards Hopewell.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:29:08pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:29:22pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:29:34pm

Note that Rogan’s kitchen sink of treatments includes monoclonal antibodies.

That’s the very expensive stuff they gave Trump…which basically makes all the other stuff mentions (including ivermectin) irrelevant.

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:30:21pm

re: #319 lawhawk

Nighttime bad weather is the worst weather.

With daylight, you have a chance of seeing storms before they hit and you’re awake.

Nighttime, we’re flying blind and relying on weather services to issue alerts and get us time to get to a safe spot.

Guess I’ve got a real sleepless night ahead. Sheetz.

Yeah, the last time we had to deal with this was like two years ago at 3 AM. I posted earlier today that there was a low ominous rumble in the sky that lasted for ten minutes. That was genuinely scary.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:32:40pm

Also…taking monoclonal antibodies while being skeptical of a vaccine—a thing that teaches your body to make antibodies—is a very weird position to hold.

Particularly if your position has otherwise been the value of natural immunity and general good health.

It’s like going from daily cardio to a transplant and not accepting the intermediate step of diet change and statins.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:34:45pm

The storm that’s hitting Trenton is now projecting heading towards Princeton and on up to New Brunswick. That’s over 25 miles… and that’s going to affect a lot of people.

Parts of this area are also seeing torrential rains and flooding, which is on the heels of significant flooding two weeks ago.

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aatharuv  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:35:25pm

re: #304 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

But Europe’s data regulations are concerned way more with privacy and control of personal data.

China doesn’t give a tinker’s damn about that. It just doesn’t want people “wasting time” according to their definition. That’s what’s behind everything they are doing with the internet now. There’s nothing good about China’s reasoning, even if they do some good things in the process. It’s a stopped clock.

They don’t want _companies_ to have that much access to data.

They’ve been doing lots of things in the past few months to manipulate people’s lives.


1) I don’t think it’s wasting time they’re against as much as they’ve decided they want to tank the tech companies to convince talent going into software and more into other areas that more critical to them. See also China’s recent restrictions on how long children can play video games on a day, and also moves to ban the 9-9-6 work week (9am -9PM, 6 days a week) common in tech companies there.

2) Another thing, is that they want to shore up their birth rate.
Now that they’ve gotten rid of the one-child policy and have replaced it with the “Three-Child policy”, they want to make it cheaper for families to have children, and spending big bucks on helping their students to study/cram for the Gaokao (the national set of tests used to enter China’s universities), is something they want to discourage.
So they banned for-profit educational companies.

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BeachDem  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:36:07pm

What a difference a week makes (and not in a good way, sigh.)

Around 15% of Horry County Schools (HCS) student body is in quarantine less than two weeks since the start of classes during an intense surge in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations in the area. In the first reports of the number of students in quarantine, the district recorded 6,800 students or about 15%, who are isolated due to COVID-19 exposure.

Welp—they keep fucking around and keep finding out—

Less than three weeks into the school year, Horry County Schools (HCS) reached a grim COVID-19 milestone Wednesday: 10,000 students are in quarantine and 980 active student cases, the district’s COVID-19 dashboard’s latest update says. HCS has around 45,000 students enrolled, meaning about 22% of students are in quarantine.

And of course, because it’s south by dog carolina—

The district nixed various coronavirus protocols that were in place last year, like plexiglass barriers in school meant to stem the spread of the virus and using hybrid learning to have fewer students in the school building at a time.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:39:10pm

Bear with me, but…

…China has maybe noticed that a bunch of games are basically Skinner boxes that exfiltrate money, and that game companies are pretty explicit about how game are designed to simulate the loop of addiction that prompts more spending…

…which is a thing China has past experience with.

Yeah, they want control over their population, but…they’re not wrong that this entire setup is built to fuck up kids’ heads.

Youtube Video

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:43:18pm

re: #323 gocart mozart

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:44:16pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:45:11pm

(me climbing up on my soapbox, again…)

As long as the leaders in our country refuse to openly discuss the ideological and religious beliefs that are in conflict in our society, and hide said conflict under the most ambiguous of marketing-analytical catch words, we will stew in continual confusion.

Specifically: abortion.

Anti-abortion folk are such because they think that there is magical thing called a “soul” that is either created at time of conception, or pre-existed and then inhabited the cell at time of conception.

Usually such a belief is covered under a theological blanket, that some “God” ordained the conception and such.

To accept that a zygote has no such thing (a “soul”) and is only a cell, is a challenge to the fundamental beliefs held by many (probably a majority of Americans.)

This is what the battle is really about.

Now, in the past there was a belief that the human became a “living soul” once the first breath was taken. This is probably behind the ancient beliefs that informs, say Islam, that abortion during early pregnancy is not a big thing. Because no breath was taken or could be taken.

In the old days, the breath was equated with the idea of “spirit”. This is embedded in the very language used in holy books about these topics (see: “God” breathing life into things in Genesis.)

Back to 21st century America: The religious right is fighting an ideological war against the rest of society that would rather spend their time watching sports-ball games or playing computer games.

Only those who are really affected - say pregnant women - are fully exposed to the effects that the ideological war is producing.

As an older guy I could very easily just withdraw into my hobbies and pastimes and not give one thought to some poor teenage girl in Texas who was impregnated by her creepy uncle.

But whatever conscience I have left still tells me that the theocracy that the Texas Republicans are building is wrong, just plain wrong.

I can’t do much about that (I’m not in TX, and don’t have huge amounts of money to give to campaigns in TX), but at least I can bring up the issues wherever I may land (mostly digitally these days given my reclusion from the virally loaded masses.)

Still, I so hope that someday some Democrats (or whatever party) can raise up leaders who will be able to address what is really going on in the this country.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:45:25pm

re: #330 The Ghost of a Flea

Bear with me, but…

…China has maybe noticed that a bunch of games are basically Skinner boxes that exfiltrate money, and that game companies are pretty explicit about how game are designed to simulate the loop of addiction that prompts more spending…

…which is a thing China has past experience with.

Yeah, they want control over their population, but…they’re not wrong that this entire setup is built to fuck up kids’ heads.

[Embedded content]

Hey, don’t out down D&D like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:45:39pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:48:49pm

Honestly…under my own power I find the number of games that have a operant conditioning component of “pay to make this game easier and thus more rewarding” alarming. Like, there are a lot of games that are made grindy and slow so that you’re negatively reinforced so that buying something makes the experience better…and that’s pretty fucked up: to make game more profitable, game should be less of a game.

Like, all games train you how to play them correctly to some degree, but it’s notable when part of that loop is “this would be easier with cash involved” then something is going wrong. I’m not much more found of the use of token economies…which are basically kiddy scrip…that obscure the price of cosmetic items, or the way that active consumption is incentivized through social pressure.

Manufactured Discontent and Fortnite

ETA: Also, just go watch everything James Stephanie Sterling has done on this subject, because they get into the industry dirt on how openly designers talk about hooking people.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:49:43pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clearly “Adam” does not know his history. As per Wiki it was the Great Famine.
en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:51:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:52:26pm

re: #337 PhillyPretzel

Clearly “Adam” does not know his history. As per Wiki it was the Great Famine.
en.wikipedia.org

Adam was being sarcastic

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:54:08pm

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see. Hmm. British Sarcasm is not like American Sarcasm.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:54:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:54:51pm

LOL

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:55:18pm

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

Awww. Such a cutie. And I was at Lorenzo The Cat’s twitter page.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:55:35pm

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Basically, Texan women need to test weekly for both Covid and pregnancy…

Perhaps its time to set up the Underground Femaleroad from “Handmaid’s Tale” to evacuate Texas women from the state.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:56:50pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

“God’s curse upon you Lord Trevelyan
May your great Queen Victoria rot in hell”

BLACK 47 - Black 47 - w/ Lyrics

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:57:24pm

re: #152 Eclectic Cyborg

No no no. We can’t test for Covid. We need to keep case numbers down!

/

Otherwise known as “The Pete Ricketts Model”

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sagehen  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:57:26pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

Does he not understand that his phone data is just what numbers he talked to, when and for how long? It’s not actually recordings of the conversations.

348
Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:57:41pm

re: #340 PhillyPretzel

I see. Hmm. British Sarcasm is not like American Sarcasm.

I think it loses something when rendered as text.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:58:08pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:58:27pm

re: #348 Dopamine Fish

Most likely.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:58:53pm

re: #347 sagehen

Does he not understand that his phone data is just what numbers he talked to, when and for how long? It’s not actually recordings of the conversations.

Do not interrupt Rep Brooks in the middle of his one-man performance of “A Telltale Heart.”

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sagehen  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:59:15pm

So… is Nancy going to have to call the House back early for hurricane relief?

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:59:16pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

Caustic remarks…does he mean text messages praising the insurrection?

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:59:22pm
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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:59:23pm

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

Blankenship sued Junior? I missed that one.

Blankenship is the fucker whose coal mine collapsed killing a bunch of miners and he was convicted in 2015 of a misdemeanor conspiring to willfully violate safety standards and was sentenced to one year.

Let them both spend millions fighting this one out. Both deserve to lose.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:59:27pm

re: #347 sagehen

Does he not understand that his phone data is just what numbers he talked to, when and for how long? It’s not actually recordings of the conversations.

“Understanding” is not one of Mo’s skills

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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2021 • 4:59:36pm
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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:01:32pm

Once we get the phone records we should start doing some 14th Amendment hearings and banning these fuckers from office.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:02:21pm

re: #349 jaunte

Somewhere in here where getting into this being closer to state-assisted stochastic terrorism.

You’re not just on the hook to comply with the law, but to perform obedience in such a way that you don’t piss off a snitch.

Meanwhile people inclined to snitch are now newly empowered to use their snitching as extortion. As the target, you have to figure out what you can do that’s better than $10,000 to make the snitch happy.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:02:24pm

re: #353 darthstar

Caustic remarks…does he mean text messages praising the insurrection?

Probably. Whatever they don’t want exposed is bad enough that painting themselves as the party of sedition and obstruction of justice in an attempt to hide it is the better alternative over letting the committee see their texts.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:03:12pm
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plansbandc  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:04:30pm

re: #273 wrenchwench

mmmm paste!

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:04:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:07:15pm
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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:07:36pm

re: #269 William Lewis

Good!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:11:08pm

The real power here is going to be husbands and families over pregnant women, or a girl or woman you could speculate is pregnant.

Need to keep a women from leaving, or complaining? Just accuse her of planning an abortion. Does she have friends helping her, or just advising her to leave…just accuse them of being abortion conspirators.

Et cetera, et cetera.

Like bathroom bills, this creates an environment in which the accuser has enormous power to harm the accused just through the process of accusation…far, far beyond the putative function of the law.

And that’s probably intentional, just as it is with bathroom bills. By creating a stigmatized group that deserve harm, but leaving it up to the common snitch to identify the guilty, you’re creating this shotgun spread of people that will also get policed, intimidated, and punished because they’re noncompliant with some norm that could be, in bad faith, presented as a sign of the crime.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:11:17pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:11:17pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:11:58pm

re: #361 gocart mozart

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:12:31pm

re: #355 lawhawk

Blankenship sued Junior? I missed that one.

Blankenship is the fucker whose coal mine collapsed killing a bunch of miners and he was convicted in 2015 of a misdemeanor conspiring to willfully violate safety standards and was sentenced to one year.

Let them both spend millions fighting this one out. Both deserve to lose.

I’d like to see Jr. lose this, have to pay big bucks to Blankenship and then have him get sued and have to pay it all out again.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:13:53pm

re: #366 The Ghost of a Flea

Also like bathroom bills, this law also creates a unique niche of power abuse that molds perfectly to the needs of abusers.

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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:16:26pm

re: #318 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:17:48pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:19:00pm

People mocking Rogan for being a doof taking stupid meds are hitting the wrong note.

The right note to hit is that he’s able to throw money at the most expensive treatment available, the one that most people can’t get, but doesn’t even acknowledge that that is different from taking OTC crap.

He’s a fucking French duke posturing as though he’s toughing through a disease while getting concierge medicine that’s literally just pre-made antibodies.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:19:28pm

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and all it takes is someone to rat on you and the courts can subject you to a medical examination?

Which is why people need to stay away from Texas entirely.

You get in a minor argument with a store clerk over whether you bought gas on pump #5 or #4. Angry clerk turns in all your information to the state including your license plate, alleging you are abetting an abortion (or maybe got one yourself).

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:19:37pm

A couple of very deep cuts: “In town to record a new version of “Hungry Heart” for an upcoming EP release, Bruce joined his friend Wolfgang Niedecken and his Leopardefellband for six(!) run-throughs of Bruce’s 1981 single. In between takes, Bruce and Wolfgang’s band treated the crowd to a selection of Dylan and Stones covers, the last of which was “Jumpin’ Jack Flash.”

Bruce Springsteen - 03 - Knockin’ on Heaven’s door

Bruce Springsteen - 09 - Jumpin’ Jack flash

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:20:50pm

re: #330 The Ghost of a Flea

Bear with me, but…

…China has maybe noticed that a bunch of games are basically Skinner boxes that exfiltrate money, and that game companies are pretty explicit about how game are designed to simulate the loop of addiction that prompts more spending…

…which is a thing China has past experience with.

Yeah, they want control over their population, but…they’re not wrong that this entire setup is built to fuck up kids’ heads.

Did someone release a Stock Market game in China? /s

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:48:24pm

re: #68 teleskiguy

States with huge corporations like Georgia, Texas, Florida, etc. How do they intend to compete in a global market when their state governments are hellbent on turning their societies into proto-feudal backwaters? AT&T, Dell, American Airlines, Waste Management, all are headquartered in Texas. They can’t be happy about this caveman shit legislation.

Capitalism has no social conscience. If the wind blows a certain direction, you can be sure the companies will go that direction as well. A long time ago, companies never said a word when blacks were discriminated against because it would cost them business. Fast forward to today and companies left and right are pro-gay, pro-BLM, etc. Don’t think it’s because they’re doing the right thing. They’re doing it because that’s where their share is.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:16:57pm

re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #355 lawhawk

Blankenship sued Junior? I missed that one.

Blankenship is the fucker whose coal mine collapsed killing a bunch of miners and he was convicted in 2015 of a misdemeanor conspiring to willfully violate safety standards and was sentenced to one year.

Let them both spend millions fighting this one out. Both deserve to lose.

Blankenship is a compadre of Bob “Eat Shit” Murray.


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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 210919Saturday afternoon was spent leveling and starting this mosaic It's almost all recycled pieces from other projects.We got about half way through and had enough. Sunday we hauled some more dirt over and finished it up. The eyesore trash cans ...
Dangerman
3 days, 23 hours ago
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The Stranglers - This Song (Official Video) This Song' is out on 10th Sept 2021 on Coursegood: slinky.toTaken from the new album 'Dark Matters' by The Stranglers: slinky.to Special thanks to Stuart Pearce. thestranglers.co.ukfacebook.cominstagram.com@StranglersSiteLyrics:I’m collecting all these feelings for youPut them in a box in a ...
Thanos
5 days, 1 hour ago
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Jukebox the Ghost - Cheers! (Lyric Video) “Cheers!” out now: jukeboxtheghost.lnk.to“Cheers!” Lyrics Here's to more of the everyday, raise a glass and sing along, the outcasts and the underdogs On the benches, on the sidelines, wallflowers: this is our time ordinary people every dayIn the nosebleeds, ...
Thanos
1 week, 1 day ago
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An Epic Takedown Appears to Be in the WorksAn epic takedown of Facebook is afoot: But going back to the WSJ series on Facebook, the quote in today's paper is priceless: "A now-former executive questioned the idea of overhauling Instagram to avoid social comparison. 'People use Instagram because ...
Eric The Fruit Bat
1 week, 1 day ago
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 210912We got our replacement solar panel.Figured we'd install, then take readings to sort of know if something was wrong in the future.One panel at a time, then pairs of 2, then all 3. Because they all connect to one feed ...
Dangerman
1 week, 2 days ago
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 210905Not having that third solar panel for 3 weeks, it’s clear now that we definitely needed the upgrade when we decided in November. 3 puts us over the top of more electricity than consumption. Still no ETA so we turned ...
Dangerman
2 weeks, 2 days ago
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Evangelicals and the Limits of Evangelical EmpathyLink to the article at: alternet.org She writes of her own experience where she turned against evangelicals. Here are the critical paragraphs to think about. And this will bring me to the ongoing evangelical moral panic over exvangelicals, those who ...
JOE 🥓
2 weeks, 4 days ago
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How Did the United States Treat the Creator of…The SaintJust a reminder of how one Leslie Charteris was treated by the Chinese Exclusion Act…and California’s anti-Chinese laws. Just in case you didn’t know, Leslie Charteris was the creator of this literary figure… Charteris himself wasn’t far removed from his ...
JOE 🥓
2 weeks, 5 days ago
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