Bruce Hornsby Reframes “The End of the Innocence”

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A beautiful re-design of this classic song, with some key changes in the lyrics and a major shout-out to Keith Jarrett.

Number 2 in our presentation is “The End Of The Innocence” which Bruce and Don Henley co-wrote, co-produced and performed for Don’s third solo studio album of the same name in 1989. Also featured in this performance is Bruce’s first instrumental “Song A” and a piece from Keith Jarrett’s Sun Bear Concerts, untitled (at least as far as we know).

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:39:06pm
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:44:48pm

Replying from Downstairs:
re: #321 Hecuba’s daughter

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There aren’t any definitive or thorough studies on this subject — just a multitude of articles from sources with various degrees of credibility and knowledge of actual details of the events. The teachers are not likely to be well versed in the subject especially when the information is rapidly changing on a daily basis. Given the current battles over what should be taught about struggles of the past two centuries, you are putting teachers in firing line over history that has not been written. I am not a teacher but maybe some who are here, especially those with backgrounds in history, might have suggestions.

I wrote this on the morning of January 7th last year. I sent this message to the school Principal, Assistant Principal, and the rest of the Social Studies Department. Behind the button as to not make the page too long:

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:45:59pm

They’re beating cops with patriot flags
For the swindling freak they elected king

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:52:58pm

re: #2 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Replying from Downstairs:

I wrote this on the morning of January 7th last year. I sent this message to the school Principal, Assistant Principal, and the rest of the Social Studies Department. Behind the button as to not make the page too long:

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A+

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:54:05pm
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Belafon  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:56:44pm

Charles, I got an email saying that you couldn’t autobill my PayPal account. Is that correct?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 5, 2022 • 7:58:43pm

Love this version of the song. Thanks for posting.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:03:16pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:11:08pm
with some key changes in the lyrics

I thought key changes were in the music.

/also

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A Cranky One  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:11:18pm

re: #6 Belafon

Charles, I got an email saying that you couldn’t autobill my PayPal account. Is that correct?

I had a similar experience on Dec 28th.

Charles suggested that I just resubsribe which I did with no problem.

But it does sound like something is broken somewhere.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:14:40pm

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Dragonomics  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:14:59pm

There was a drinking age/drunk driving argument last thread. This is my solution. We need a drinking license. Drinking is the problem. Not driving. If a person drives drunk, then take away their drinking license. Without a drinking license, it’s like you’re under 21. You can’t get into bars, order a drink at a restaurant or ball game or buy beer at the store. You can absolutely ask a responsible citizen to buy for you, but I would hope that ask comes with intense shame.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:19:56pm

re: #12 Dragonomics

I like it, but as we’ve seen with Covid, we have a MuhFreedumz addiction problem here.

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:24:15pm

re: #13 jaunte

I like it, but as we’ve seen with Covid, we have a MuhFreedumz addiction problem here.

Addictions to cars and to alcohol (and Freedumz)

More public transit will solve several problems.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:28:30pm

re: #14 wrenchwench

Back in the 90s my three younger kids all got Houston metro fare cards and learned how to get around using the citywide bus system. To this day, we’re still hearing stories about all the places they went. We had no idea at the time.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:35:26pm

re: #6 Belafon

Charles, I got an email saying that you couldn’t autobill my PayPal account. Is that correct?

That was from PayPal - I don’t control that. I got a notice too that your subscription was canceled because automatic payments failed - nothing more than that. PayPal seems to be acting flaky with subscriptions lately. You may need to just re-subscribe, because I don’t think there’s anything I can do about it.

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:38:04pm

When I was in the compulsory school system, I argued against the compulsory school system. I think I had a letter to the editor published. Would have been in the Fullerton Tribune.

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plansbandc  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:38:43pm

I would like to thank the very kind person who donated a membership to me. Thank you very much!

I apologize for not thanking you sooner, but I haven’t been hanging around a whole lot lately. (Family, Health, etc. etc.)

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William Lewis  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:42:08pm

re: #14 wrenchwench

Addictions to cars and to alcohol (and Freedumz)

More public transit will solve several problems.

It could but it won’t unless you can get rid of the stigma that public transportation has in most people’s eyes as being only for poor minority folk and unsafe for “decent” aka white folks.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:45:44pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

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This has become an article of faith among the anti-vaxxers, that most (if not all) of the rise in infections are due to breakthroughs among the vaccinated. That the unvaccinated are at greatest risk of being infected by the vaccinated. And that the vaccinated are more likely to die than the unvaccinated who have “strong” immune systems.

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austin_blue  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:47:28pm

I’m off for the rack.

I’m hoping for Trump in Supermax and the rest of the R’s in Joliet and Atlanta, but I’ve got to admit I’m not so hopeful that will happen.

Fuck my life.

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sagehen  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:49:20pm

re: #19 William Lewis

It could but it won’t unless you can get rid of the stigma that public transportation has in most people’s eyes as being only for poor minority folk and unsafe for “decent” aka white folks.

this is not a NYC issue.

We complain about the subway endlessly — the smell, the filth, the guy masturbating at the other end of the car… but EVERYBODY uses it. Even if you have all the money in the world, it’s just so much faster during rush hour than any street vehicle could ever be.

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Mattand  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:49:31pm

re: #19 William Lewis

It could but it won’t unless you can get rid of the stigma that public transportation has in most people’s eyes as being only for poor minority folk and unsafe for “decent” aka white folks.

You ain’t kidding. There’s a bus line in front of my development that I’ve taken to Philly by way of Camden on occasion. The fucking looks of legitimate horror I’ve gotten from white people when I say I’ve done that is simultaneously hilarious and infuriating.

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JC1  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:49:46pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

This has become an article of faith among the anti-vaxxers, that most (if not all) of the rise in infections are due to breakthroughs among the vaccinated. That the unvaccinated are at greatest risk of being infected by the vaccinated. And that the vaccinated are more likely to die than the unvaccinated who have “strong” immune systems.

The first part of that may be true in very highly vaccinated places. 2x mRNA+booster is ‘only’ 70% effective at preventing omicron infection. So in a place that’s 90% vaccinated, most omicron cases could very well be among the vaccinated.

The rest of it is nonsense, of course.

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Mattand  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:54:23pm

re: #22 sagehen

this is not a NYC issue.

We complain about the subway endlessly — the smell, the filth, the guy masturbating at the other end of the car… but EVERYBODY uses it. Even if you have all the money in the world, it’s just so much faster during rush hour than any street vehicle could ever be.

My dad grew up in Philly and took the Broad Street Line to school until my grandparents moved to the Jersey burbs. After that, he only took public transit if it was absolutely necessary. I know he did the subway in NYC a few times for business trips, but I never once personally saw him ever step foot in any sort of mass transit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2022 • 8:56:00pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

This has become an article of faith among the anti-vaxxers, that most (if not all) of the rise in infections are due to breakthroughs among the vaccinated. That the unvaccinated are at greatest risk of being infected by the vaccinated. And that the vaccinated are more likely to die than the unvaccinated who have “strong” immune systems.

The other problems among the GOP are that (1) mandates are wrong since they take away individual choice — “I choose to be vaccinated but it’s a matter of personal choice”, (2) if you’re vaccinated, you shouldn’t have to wear a mask, (3) vaccines are only needed for those who are elderly or have serious comorbidities; others, especially children, don’t need them since dangers associated with vaccines outweigh benefits, (4) masks are bad for children since they interfere with appropriate childhood development, and (5) I only believe in traditional vaccines that use dead viruses, not these new fangled vaccines that are based on unproven technologies.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:05:56pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Done. I wonder if it had something to do with this: when I resubscribed, it tried to take me to this page, which got me a 404: littlegreenfootballs.com

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:10:06pm
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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:11:07pm

re: #28 Belafon

Maintain 50’ distance.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:12:34pm

re: #28 Belafon

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“Ways nature says ‘Don’t touch.’”

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:12:44pm

I got called in on my day off, and I worked at the front counter, rather than the usual dishwasher. Much easier. I had to ask a guy to put on a mask, even if he was just looking. He wouldn’t take one, but apologized and went to fetch his, a nice one with fishies on it. He apologized again after he got his piece of pie, and I told him my ‘just a couple more years and it will be automatic’ joke. I think I heard sort of a chuckle/moan. It’s hard to tell with a mask on.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:13:07pm

Hi.

It’s snowing as our Winter Storm continues. It is currently -4°F, with a predicted low of -14°F. Surprisingly we haven’t lost our Internet service in the storm yet.

Another snow storm is expected in a couple days.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:14:54pm
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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:15:02pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Welcome back!

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:15:11pm
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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:17:04pm

re: #29 jaunte

Maintain 50’ distance.

“We must give these ‘mericans a wide berth.”

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:17:40pm

Unvaccinated tennis star detained at Australian airport at entry and later expelled.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:18:58pm

re: #36 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

“We must give these ‘mericans a wide berth.”

A Scotsman pretending to be a Lithuanian serving in the Soviet Navy.

Only thing funnier was a Scotsman pretending to be a Spaniard.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:19:21pm

re: #37 ckkatz

will fight them on the street

Needles at dawn!

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Teukka  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:21:08pm

re: #35 jaunte

And they, of course, did not know what was to happen on the 6th… /S

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:27:19pm

re: #14 wrenchwench

Addictions to cars and to alcohol (and Freedumz)

More public transit will solve several problems.

I read through all that discussion of drinking age compared to ages for other things (like voting or military service), including the various slippery slope arguments (why don’t you ban all alcohol then).

Politics is always the art of the possible. We can hope people will be responsible when they drink, and not drive afterwards, and we can definitely show that teenagers are at a higher risk of drinking and driving, or that rural areas have more deaths per capita than cities (combination of higher speeds, further distances, lack of public transportation, &c).

You can use slippery slope arguments in either direction, but at the end of the day, someone writes a law.

Nebraska used to have marriage laws that allowed boys to marry at 17 and girls at 19 without parental consent. After that was challenged as sexist age discrimination, a couple years ago the state changed the law so no one can marry until 19 without parental consent (minimum age 17 for everyone).

But who’s to say if a person at 16 years and eleven months won’t be more responsible than someone at nineteen? The slippery slope arguments argue there should be no line for drinking (or marriage age).

The same arguments apply to anything we have an age for which is not explicit in the constitution (voting, holding office, &c). Why do we have an age limit on gun ownership? On renting cars? On travelling alone?

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:29:03pm

The caption’s the thing. But you want all the pictures, too, so use that little picture icon if you need to

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:30:42pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:33:51pm

re: #43 Belafon

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“Back in my day, we didn’t have no fancy ‘wifi.’ We had dial-up modems that only got 28.8K and we liked it!”

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:34:36pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Very interesting topic(s). It can be expanded at the other end of the age scale. And are ‘emancipation’ (of minors) laws state-by-state?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:37:20pm

re: #28 Belafon

People who will be bitching at St Peter about not getting help after refusing the boat, helicopter, etc. during a flood.

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Teukka  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:38:26pm

re: #46 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

People who will be bitching at St Peter about not getting help after refusing the boat, helicopter, etc. during a flood.

People who will be bitchslapped by St Peter as well… Not /S.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:43:13pm

re: #30 Targetpractice

“Ways nature says ‘Don’t touch.’”

“Thou shalt meet Him soon.”

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A Cranky One  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:45:21pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:46:13pm

re: #45 wrenchwench

Very interesting topic(s). It can be expanded at the other end of the age scale. And are ‘emancipation’ (of minors) laws state-by-state?

Yes they vary, both “automatic emancipation” (the age of majority) or court-ordered emancipation.

Even then, court-ordered emancipation is restricted by laws or constitutional requirements (such as serving on a jury or voting).

en.wikipedia.org

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:49:44pm

Some suggestions for what to keep in the car in case of getting stuck. The goal is to be, if not comfortable, at least not in a life threatening situation. Usual suggestions are a some food, some water, a blanket/sleeping bag, a change of warm clothes, a roll of tp, and a small first aid bag. I also keep an _empty_ 2.5 gallon gas can, a headlamp, and an army entrenching tool (folding shovel).

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sagehen  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:51:10pm

re: #51 ckkatz

Some suggestions for what to keep in the car in case of getting stuck. The goal is to be, if not comfortable, at least not in a life threatening situation. Usual suggestions are a some food, some water, a blanket/sleeping bag, a change of warm clothes, a roll of tp, and a small first aid bag. I also keep an _empty_ 2.5 gallon gas can and an army entrenching tool (folding shovel).

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Shorter list: a Cali earthquake kit.

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 9:56:57pm

re: #52 sagehen

Shorter list: a Cali earthquake kit.

I also have the parts for a bug-out/go/good bag. But have not assembled them yet. Being in the East, I haven’t had much problem (at least yet) with wildfires, earthquakes or just coming on-shore hurricanes.

A couple of years ago a tornado (probably not yet on ground) passed within a short distance of my house. It apparently landed about 1/4 mile away, knocked down two trees (one onto a pickup and the other onto a house, then faded away.

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 10:02:37pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 5, 2022 • 10:18:19pm

re: #28 Belafon

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 10:21:56pm

re: #39 jaunte

Needles at dawn!

Then throw them in the pokey! ;)

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ckkatz  Jan 5, 2022 • 10:23:40pm

G’nite lizards! Time for me to heard to bed.

And, of course, the obligatory ‘Dad’ joke:

My balloon elephant wouldn’t fit on the back seat of the car.
So I had to pop the trunk.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 5, 2022 • 10:29:57pm

re: #52 sagehen

Shorter list: a Cali earthquake kit.

Plus a down bag, and anything to make 24+ hours in a freezing car comfortable. More like a Tahoe winter trip kit.

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William Lewis  Jan 5, 2022 • 10:35:15pm

re: #58 Dread Pirate Ron

Plus a down bag, and anything to make 24+ hours in a freezing car comfortable. More like a Tahoe winter trip kit.

A good book to reread is a plus as well.

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Cheechako  Jan 5, 2022 • 10:40:14pm

Up here the main travel rule is to travel using only the top half of your gas tank. You may need the bottom half for emergencies.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 5, 2022 • 10:42:46pm

Hulu app for Windows 10 added Dolby Digital. I wonder if they added HDR and 4k.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2022 • 10:46:47pm

re: #28 Belafon

What I didn’t realize until reading through the thread was that the correct reaction is “photoshop”! Apparently, the picture of this couple has been used in “modelling” a host of various shirts.

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retired cynic  Jan 5, 2022 • 10:52:37pm

re: #62 Hecuba’s daughter

I went on twitter to like Shiplord Kirel’s tweet about tattoos, and read for a while. All I found were “Evangelicals” repeating various forms of Jesus is the only door to eternal life, and whatever mistakes you make you can be forgiven. And I got so depressed I didn’t read on to find out about various t-shirts.

How about one for Let’s Go Darwin!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:03:04pm

re: #63 retired cynic

I went on twitter to like Shiplord Kirel’s tweet about tattoos, and read for a while. All I found were “Evangelicals” repeating various forms of Jesus is the only door to eternal life, and whatever mistakes you make you can be forgiven. And I got so depressed I didn’t read on to find out about various t-shirts.

How about one for Let’s Go Darwin!

I was responding to Belafon’s post and the twitter thread there may have been different — at least for the ones I read.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:31:44pm

Re: cheap bikes (Lawhawk)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:53:54pm

re: #60 Cheechako

Up here the main travel rule is to travel using only the top half of your gas tank. You may need the bottom half for emergencies.

Same in Nebraska. It gets kinda cold here.

Currently:

Juneau, AK: 0°F, partly cloudy, wind chill advisory (-30°F)
Broadwater, NE: -6°F, snow, Winter Storm Warning, wind chill advisory (-20°F)

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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2022 • 11:59:38pm

re: #65 Dread Pirate Ron

Re: cheap bikes (Lawhawk)

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The Colombian road bike racing team used to train in the mountains with the seat and post removed from their bicycles.

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A Cranky One  Jan 6, 2022 • 12:00:02am

re: #65 Dread Pirate Ron

Traumatic post syndrome.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2022 • 12:07:28am

I need to meet these people to find out how they keep their noses from running like a faucet in the cold wind.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 12:08:13am

I just checked out the state 511 network. Most of the roads here are closed in the southern Panhandle. We’re stuck in town (the barriers on US-26 and NE-92 are closed). I-80 is closed from Ogallala to Pine Bluffs, Wyo.

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Cheechako  Jan 6, 2022 • 12:08:41am

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Same in Nebraska. It gets kinda cold here.

Currently:

Juneau, AK: 0°F, partly cloudy, wind chill advisory (-30°F)
Broadwater, NE: -6°F, snow, Winter Storm Warning, wind chill advisory (-20°F)

Plus there’s about 18 inches of snow on the ground and another foot due this weekend. The weekend is also expected to be much warmer with the possibility of rain to help add to the snow load on our roofs.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 12:11:51am

re: #71 Cheechako

Plus there’s about 18 inches of snow on the ground and another foot due this weekend. The weekend is also expected to be much warmer with the possibility of rain to help add to the snow load on our roofs.

A roof rake is a good investment here.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 12:26:50am

New Hampshire passed (if even possible) an anti-abortion bill more heinous than that in Texas. It was not enough to include transvaginal ultrasounds which are medically unnecessary, it also includes a provision to allow grandparents to sue for adoption of a foetus from an adult woman. There are no provisions for rape or incest. Doctors who fail to carry out the requirements of the law become felons.

Gov. Sununu has always claimed he is “pro-choice” and even did after he signed the law. (All conservatives lie. All of them.)

‘Pro-Choice’ NH Gov Sununu Signs Abortion Bounty Bill Because … LOOK OVER THERE! (Wonkette)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2022 • 12:38:09am

re: #49 A Cranky One

Although WTP is now PD, the Disney iteration of him is still copyrighted.

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Cheechako  Jan 6, 2022 • 12:48:44am

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A roof rake is a good investment here.

Right now, roof rakes are hard to find around here. My house has a large, steep cathedral ceiling where there is metal roofing material. The snow does build up on it but the snow falls off frequently. Shakes the whole house. My back porch has about 4 feet of ice and snow that has fallen off the roof.

I’ve seen reports where people are requesting $1200 to shovel off a roof. I don’t know if they are getting any takers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2022 • 12:49:57am

re: #75 Cheechako

I’ve seen reports where people are requesting $1200 to shovel off a roof. I don’t know if they are getting any takers.

Just wait until the first roofs (rooves?) start collapsing and they will be fully booked at $1500

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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2022 • 12:53:07am

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

New Hampshire passed (if even possible) an anti-abortion bill more heinous than that in Texas. It was not enough to include transvaginal ultrasounds which are medically unnecessary, it also includes a provision to allow grandparents to sue for adoption of a foetus from an adult woman. There are no provisions for rape or incest. Doctors who fail to carry out the requirements of the law become felons.

Gov. Sununu has always claimed he is “pro-choice” and even did after he signed the law. (All conservatives lie. All of them.)

‘Pro-Choice’ NH Gov Sununu Signs Abortion Bounty Bill Because … LOOK OVER THERE! (Wonkette)

He’s acting in the grand tradition of “moderate” politicians: Moaning that the people who voted for him actually expecting him to stand by the things he said are “unreasonable.” In this case, balking at the idea that being “pro-choice” might mean putting the brakes on the state budget until those items that are a total attack on a woman’s choice are removed.

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Cheechako  Jan 6, 2022 • 12:55:55am

re: #76 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just wait until the first roofs (rooves?) start collapsing and they will be fully booked at $1500

I think it really depends on how much snow is on the roof when the weather warms up a bit and we then get significant rainfall. There’s always going to be buildings that were under built and subject to snow collapse.

Check youtube for videos from Valdez Alaska where roofs have over 10 feet of snow on them. There’s a few videos of people using their snowblowers to remove roof top snow.

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2022 • 1:13:30am

Robert Woodward and Bob Costa are Thursday’s guests on The View.

(oops. Bob Woodward and Robert Costa.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 1:21:10am

re: #77 Targetpractice

He’s acting in the grand tradition of “moderate” politicians: Moaning that the people who voted for him actually expecting him to stand by the things he said are “unreasonable.” In this case, balking at the idea that being “pro-choice” might mean putting the brakes on the state budget until those items that are a total attack on a woman’s choice are removed.

He actually takes the “Republicans have no agency” fallacy and makes it a political statement.

First, it is not my bill,” Sununu said at a forum in June. “It is the Legislature’s proposal. And 43 other states have similar clauses, including Massachusetts and New York, who have almost the exact same law. No one is screaming at them. Do you want me to scrap a $13 billion budget for this one item? I will not do that.”

Narrator: Massachusetts and New York have no such provisions. Like all conservatives, he’s a liar. He also signed it, so it’s his bill.

He also said the ultrasound/grandparents provision was only added at the last minute, for varying values of “May 2020.”

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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2022 • 1:25:29am

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He actually takes the “Republicans have no agency” fallacy and makes it a political statement.

Narrator: Massachusetts and New York have no such provisions. Like all conservatives, he’s a liar. He also signed it, so it’s his bill.

He also said the ultrasound/grandparents provision was only added at the last minute, for varying values of “May 2020.”

“Moderate” Republicans are always like that, insisting that they’re totally not culture warriors even as they happily sign onto the party’s latest battle like the loyal lapdogs they are.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2022 • 1:33:27am
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 6, 2022 • 1:46:49am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

School resumes in the New Year and the elementary school teacher asks her small charges what they got for Christmas. Little Timmy says, “I got a choo-choo.”

Teacher shakes her head. “Timmy, you are a big boy now. You shouldn’t use baby talk. Now, what did you get?”

“I got a train set.”

“That’s much better. Violet, what did you get?”

“I got a bow-wow.”

“Now now, Violet. Remember what I told Timmy. You are a big girl now.”

“Um, I got a puppy.”

“Very good. Bobby, what did you get for Christmas?”

“I got a book.”

“That’s nice. What book was it?”

Bobby turns bright red and starts stammering.

“Now Bobby,” she says kindly, “Don’t be embarrassed. You can tell the class.”

Bobby takes a deep breath and blurts out, “Winnie-The-Shit.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2022 • 1:47:01am

Unions interfere with our freedom as individuals with limited means and assets to negotiate one-on-one for terms of employment with multi-billion-dollar international corporations.

Socilism!!!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 6, 2022 • 1:48:04am
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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2022 • 2:50:43am

re: #82 Dread Pirate Ron

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So we can look forward to Google Fiber jacking up their rates while insisting they have “no choice” in the wake of their workers unionizing.

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Ming5000  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:02:23am

Karl Rove makes an appearance. On balance, this is not good for MAGAs.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:02:58am

Doug Kuzma, the right-wing radio host from Newport News who went to the so-called Reawaken America Qanon event at a church, which wingnuts claim was attacked by anthrax (not Covid-19), is dead. He has been languishing on a ventilator for weeks, after claiming he wouldn’t go to hospitals because they kill people.

His organisation The Frog Network (totally not related to Pepe of course) thinks something sinister is going on with Doug’s death. They put out a statement, which is linked at the update at Sorry Antivaxxer.

sorryantivaxxer.com

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Ming5000  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:07:25am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Life is difficult enough without willingly toying with CV. Plus, when they catch CV they use weird alternate medications that simply deworm and little else.

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Ming5000  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:17:08am

Let them fight!

Emily Brooks / Washington Examiner:
Ted Cruz criticized for calling Jan. 6 riot a ‘violent terrorist attack’ — Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz got blowback from some on the right, including Fox News host Tucker Carlson, after he called the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol a “violent terrorist attack.”
Discussion: American Greatness, The Daily Beast, Page Array and Conservative Caucus

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The Squire of Logos  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:18:33am

re: #28 Belafon

I see dead people.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:20:58am

re: #89 Ming5000

Life is difficult enough without willingly toying with CV. Plus, when they catch CV they use weird alternate medications that simply deworm and little else.

This FROG Network (they claim it stands for Fully Rely On God, after they got called out on the Pepe similarity) seems to exist mostly to grift on alternative medicine stuff.

L. Lin Wood is considering representing them to sue the Bon Secours Mary Immaculate Hospital in Newport News for his death.

In the meantime, chalk up another loss for the Prayer Warriors on this on. They seem to be batting a solid doughnut.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:23:38am

Video, 1:28.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:28:47am

Conservatism is filled with morans, part eleventy-billion, another one who cannot read a simple graphic.

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The Squire of Logos  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:30:04am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Although WTP is now PD, the Disney iteration of him is still copyrighted.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that to stay within the bounds of public domain you need to refer to the character as Winnie-the-Pooh. And Tigger is still off limits.

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Ming5000  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:32:16am

Ashli Babbitt is trending. I noticed this video, which I had not seen before.
The threat this mob posed to those behind the barricade is starkly evident.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:39:15am

Jon Stewart: “Your business model is arson.”
(4:08)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:45:46am

re: #96 Ming5000

Ashli Babbitt is trending. I noticed this video, which I had not seen before.
The threat this mob posed to those behind the barricade is starkly evident.

Sure are a lot of sedition apologists in that thread. The same sort of people who would tell anyone else (well, Black people) “she should have just complied.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 3:50:14am
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steve_davis  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:00:07am

re: #28 Belafon

His and Her matching ventilators.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:02:21am

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Constitution doesn’t apply to Twitter. Rep. McCarthy knows that, and he knows his wingnut base doesn’t.

He also knows lewd and obscene speech are Constitutionally protected, and his wingnut base doesn’t.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:10:01am

My state doesn’t want to miss out on the abortion-banning mania.

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:16:18am
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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:16:20am

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My state doesn’t want to miss out on the abortion-banning mania.

I know this craze of legislating Christian morality is driven by the Dominionist groupthink “If we make people behave Christianly, God will bless our country”, but… they’re just wrong. Because in the process of forcing people to “behave Christianly” (as they portray it, at least), they are being as un-Christian as it is possible to be.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:18:43am

He is not affiliated with a political party in Florida. The other three were listed as Republicans.

He voted in Florida and Connecticut.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:19:59am

re: #104 Dopamine Fish

I know this craze of legislating Christian morality is driven by the Dominionist groupthink “If we make people behave Christianly, God will bless our country”, but… they’re just wrong. Because in the process of forcing people to “behave Christianly” (as they portray it, at least), they are being as un-Christian as it is possible to be.

And Christian women get abortions at a much higher rate than atheists.

The moral: To protect women’s rights, elect more atheists like Senator Hunt.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:21:27am

re: #104 Dopamine Fish

I know this craze of legislating Christian morality is driven by the Dominionist groupthink “If we make people behave Christianly, God will bless our country”, but… they’re just wrong. Because in the process of forcing people to “behave Christianly” (as they portray it, at least), they are being as un-Christian as it is possible to be.

Since when is this behaving un-Christian? Christians have slaughtered their way across the landscape for two thousand years to enforce conformity to their religious beliefs.

When they don’t have unbelievers to go after, they slaughter each other (Thirty Years’ War).

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:23:09am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Since when is this behaving un-Christian? Christians have slaughtered their way across the landscape for two thousand years to enforce conformity to their religious beliefs.

When they don’t have unbelievers to go after, they slaughter each other (Thirty Years’ War).

You know my stance on Jesus’s actual teachings vs. what the Church, as a collective, has taught and done for the last 2000+ years. I don’t think we need to re-hash that argument here; we both know where each other stands.

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:24:24am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Since when is this behaving un-Christian? Christians have slaughtered their way across the landscape for two thousand years to enforce conformity to their religious beliefs.

When they don’t have unbelievers to go after, they slaughter each other (Thirty Years’ War).

be fair. they didn’t start the slaughtering until… after the fall of the Roman Empire? I guess when Constantine converted?

So probably only 1700 years.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:24:44am

re: #108 Dopamine Fish

You know my stance on Jesus’s actual teachings vs. what the Church, as a collective, has taught and done for the last 2000+ years. I don’t think we need to re-hash that argument here; we both know where each other stands.

This teaching?

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

(Matthew 10:34-36, KJV)

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:25:07am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sigh. Alright then. I’ll be back later.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:26:52am

re: #111 Dopamine Fish

Sigh. Alright then. I’ll be back later.

Please stay. I’m off to bed now anyway.

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William Lewis  Jan 6, 2022 • 4:31:33am

re: #111 Dopamine Fish

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yes, we know. Your hate speech is acceptable because 100% of christians are exactly the same as every other one. Tell me do you think that way about other religions, say CL and a Talib? Or that, perhaps, every atheist believes exactly the same?

Yeah, time for me to go away for awhile too. I get so damn tired of this hate.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 5:09:18am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Trump-loving evangelist Lance Wallnau lays hands on and prays over a cardboard cutout of Trump, then declares that Steve Bannon “has an apostolic grace on him” and “was probably called to be an apostle.”

There is no greater evil in the world than these religious fascists. Bannon has an apostolic grace on him? Fuck this guy with a rusty chain saw.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 6, 2022 • 5:10:54am

re: #113 William Lewis

Yes, we know. Your hate speech is acceptable because 100% of christians are exactly the same as every other one. Tell me do you think that way about other religions, say CL and a Talib? Or that, perhaps, every atheist believes exactly the same?

Yeah, time for me to go away for awhile too. I get so damn tired of this hate.

“Hate speech” for quoting the words of Jesus in the Bible, and the history of Christianity (I did not say all Christians).

Atheists do not believe the same about political positions, nor do Christians.

State Senator Slama was specifically appointed to a vacant seat by our Roman Catholic governor to introduce Roman Catholic legislation regarding abortion in this state. She has faithfully delivered.

I have a bed to attend to. If what I write is considered hate speech, it is probably safe to say I am not wanted here.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 6, 2022 • 5:11:56am

re: #113 William Lewis

Yes, we know. Your hate speech is acceptable because 100% of christians are exactly the same as every other one. Tell me do you think that way about other religions, say CL and a Talib? Or that, perhaps, every atheist believes exactly the same?

Yeah, time for me to go away for awhile too. I get so damn tired of this hate.

Paid posters are going to post.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 5:15:28am

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 5:30:25am

re: #108 Dopamine Fish

You know my stance on Jesus’s actual teachings vs. what the Church, as a collective, has taught and done for the last 2000+ years. I don’t think we need to re-hash that argument here; we both know where each other stands.

There’s such a vast difference between what Christ taught and believed and what his followers think and believe. My husband’s family is religious (he and I are both atheists) and his family are kind, solid humans. Many Christians of today are not. I will never attack someone for their beliefs but I would be lying if I didn’t say how much I hate people who have taken good words, thoughts and deeds and turned them into something completely unrecognizable.

As for Anymouse, after what he experienced in real life, I would be hard pressed to not hate everyone. He lives a more Christ like life than most supposed Christians. That said, Anymouse, I love you and think the world of you, but bashing good people’s (the people here) beliefs isn’t helpful in any way.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 5:36:59am

re: #109 sagehen

be fair. they didn’t start the slaughtering until… after the fall of the Roman Empire? I guess when Constantine converted?

So probably only 1700 years.

And abortion has not been a problem for most Christians, and, until they needed it to maintain power over women and blacks, not a problem for Protestant churches.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 5:40:21am

Two jurors in the Maxwell trial are admitting after the trial that they were victims of sexual abuse and didn’t state it on the forms.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 5:43:15am

re: #120 Belafon

Two jurors in the Maxwell trial are admitting after the trial that they were victims of sexual abuse and didn’t state it on the forms.

Well, that’s just fucking awesome.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 5:47:11am
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sagehen  Jan 6, 2022 • 5:59:20am

Biden’s speech is about to start.

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Nojay UK  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:00:36am

re: #118 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What passes for Christianity anywhere in the world today has little to do with the words attributed to the Millennialist Judean prophet and preacher, Yeshua bin Yussuf as passed down to us by his followers and inheritors. Mostly Christianity has become a cult focussed on death and the supposed afterlife, not doing good deeds in this life as was Yeshua’s supposed prescription to the world in the name of his Father.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:01:23am

re: #123 sagehen

Where is it?

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:03:57am

Statuary Hall, in the Rotunda.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:04:10am
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Sherlock Hound  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:04:11am

re: #125 PhillyPretzel

Where is it?

YouTube White House channel. Hasn’t started yet.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:04:46am

WaPo has it too. Thanks.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:13:45am

Friend of mine sent me this.
Given the fish in question, I can’t tell if it’s a translation error or the world’s most truthful product description. xD

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Dangerman  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:16:26am

re: #118 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

There’s such a vast difference between what Christ taught and believed and what his followers think and believe. My husband’s family is religious (he and I are both atheists) and his family are kind, solid humans. Many Christians of today are not. I will never attack someone for their beliefs but I would be lying if I didn’t say how much I hate people who have taken good words, thoughts and deeds and turned them into something completely unrecognizable.

As for Anymouse, after what he experienced in real life, I would be hard pressed to not hate everyone. He lives a more Christ like life than most supposed Christians. That said, Anymouse, I love you and think the world of you, but bashing good people’s (the people here) beliefs isn’t helpful in any way.

+6
One for each of your solid points

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ckkatz  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:17:15am

re: #87 Ming5000

Iirc, Rove is of the “House of Bush”. When tfg took over the gqp, he purged that gang. I wonder how much of this is gang on gang struggle for control of the territory rather than actual policy differences. Particularly after ‘shrub’.

My view is “Let them fight”.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:21:33am

Joe’s going in. Good speech.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:22:28am

re: #133 makeitstop

Yes. It is good.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:32:19am

Trump is going to go absolutely apeshit over this speech. GOOD.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:32:21am

‘You can’t love your country only when you win.’

Preach, Mr. President.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:34:36am

Man he’s burning up the room. TFG is probably frothing at the mouth by now as POTUS very thinly calls him a traitor.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:35:13am

re: #135 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I certainly hope so. I want to see him lose it completely on live TV.

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steve_davis  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:35:34am

re: #103 sagehen

He kind of did.

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yeah, he went way over the top, and then suddenly realized calling somebody an anti-semite was potentially legally hazardous. I personally didn’t see anything particularly Jewish about the bankers. I frankly thought if anything they were probably supposed to be a parody of tight-fisted but thoroughly fiscally honest Dutch bankers, who’d been keeping Harry’s money safe in their vaults all this time. In reality, it was an idiotic banking system. Having a bunch of gold coins and chandeliers in a vault isn’t particularly savvy. I would have wanted to see a trunk full of inflation-indexed bonds and lots of stock certificates. Some gold, not as a hedge, which it really isn’t, but just in case all currencies default or something, always good to have something people have recognized as money for 10,000 years.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:41:29am

That was a great speech.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:41:31am

That was a very good speech.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:42:16am

Man, I’d hate to be a TV in Mar-A-Lago this morning.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:43:01am

re: #142 makeitstop

Same here but to be a fly on the wall would be priceless

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:44:09am
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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:45:05am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:45:11am

The RWNJs are going to go totally ape shit over this speech. HOW DARE HE CALL US LOW LIFE SEDITIOUS SCUM. Good.

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Dangerman  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:45:33am

Read these two at today’s electoral-vote.com

Won’t take but a few minutes

Then I think you can relax, just a bit

The 1/6 Committee: A Status Report

Garland Speaks

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:45:55am

re: #145 Belafon

That is good.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:48:17am

re: #146 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

The RWNJs are going to go totally ape shit over this speech. HOW DARE HE CALL US LOW LIFE SEDITIOUS SCUM. Good.

Because you are, in fact, low life seditious scum?

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Dangerman  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:50:04am

re: #146 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

The RWNJs are going to go totally ape shit over this speech. HOW DARE HE CALL US LOW LIFE SEDITIOUS SCUM. Good.

President’s not allowed to lie. //

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:50:37am

re: #146 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

The RWNJs are going to go totally ape shit over this speech. HOW DARE HE CALL US LOW LIFE SEDITIOUS SCUM. Good.

Hit dogs howl.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:50:47am

re: #147 Dangerman

Put this…

Read these two at today’s electoral-vote.com

Together with this…

New York State is a key bellwether for the US now, w/ the highest case/capita count, higher vaccinated (72 vs 62% US), much prior Covid, test positivity > 20%
Hospitalizations are steeply rising, mostly in people unvaccinated (thru 12/20)
Not a good look for other states to come ht

And the “barely” states may not be barely any longer.

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:51:19am

Whiny little bitch

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:52:23am

re: #153 EstebanTornado1963

Put a cork in it Lindsey.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:58:09am

Biden is breathing a little heavily.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:58:31am

Good morning, Lizards.

I certainly hope this January 6th is somewhat LESS eventful than last years edition.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:58:44am

I stepped away from LGF for a while, and apparently missed a banger of a speech. I’ll have to go back and watch it. What else did I miss?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 6:59:44am

re: #157 Dopamine Fish

Kamala and Joe were great. Without using DT’s name they called him out for everything.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:00:32am

re: #157 Dopamine Fish

I stepped away from LGF for a while, and apparently missed a banger of a speech. I’ll have to go back and watch it. What else did I miss?

Trump, dragged relentlessly.

And a good man standing up for democracy. Well worth a watch.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:00:40am

Honest to fucking god, the press is so fucking worthless. “Isn’t this more divisive?’ Fuck you and the broom you rode in on.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:01:04am

re: #160 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Honest to fucking god, the press is so fucking worthless. “Isn’t this more divisive?’ Fuck you and the broom you rode in on.

Less divisive than an insurrection.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:02:25am

re: #157 Dopamine Fish

I stepped away from LGF for a while, and apparently missed a banger of a speech. I’ll have to go back and watch it. What else did I miss?

If you open the comment 127, you may be able to scroll back to the start. I still have the ability to go back.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:03:00am

In other news…

I loathe every single person who helped that Fat Bastard fuck this country over, but if they can tear him down I’ll applaud - but still loathe them.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:03:04am

re: #161 Belafon

Less divisive than an insurrection.

An absolutely infuriating and pointless question from our supposed fourth estate.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:03:53am

re: #163 makeitstop

In other news…

I loathe every single person who helped that Fat Bastard fuck this country over, but if they can tear him down I’ll applaud - but still loathe them.

It’s all about protecting the republican party as a whole. Unfortunately, that fish is rotten from the core out.

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jeffreyw  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:04:57am

tim’rous wee beastie

Good morning!

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:06:15am

re: #165 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s all about protecting the republican party as a whole. Unfortunately, that fish is rotten from the core out.

You’re right. But there’s precious little to protect at this point.

Tear it the fuck down and salt the earth where it stood.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:06:58am

re: #153 EstebanTornado1963

Go fuck yourself, Lindsey.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:08:06am

Here comes the freakout…

Hit dog, howling.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:08:46am

Shit is about to go down on Trump and all these terrorist fucks. Biden never would’ve said what he said today unless he knew.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:10:25am

re: #170 Ace Rothstein

Shit is about to go down on Trump and all these terrorist fucks. Biden never would’ve said what he said today unless he knew.

Between Garland yesterday and Biden this morning, I’m starting to think they’ve got every one of them dead to rights.

Game on, you traitorous bastards.

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Dangerman  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:12:51am

re: #169 makeitstop

Here comes the freakout…

[Embedded content]

Hit dog, howling.

Since Biden didn’t even dignify Trump by once uttering his name, why does trump think all those descriptions are about him?

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:13:09am

re: #163 makeitstop

Doing the bare minimum after the fact to rehab their images, when they spent 4 years covering up Trump’s ongoing criminality, misconduct, and sabotage of government function.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:13:12am
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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:14:16am

re: #172 Dangerman

Since Biden didn’t even dignify Trump by once uttering his name, why does trump think all those descriptions are about him?

I bet you think this song is about you…

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:16:36am

Tribe said he was unimpressed by Garland yesterday. Not so with Biden’s speech.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:17:05am

Alright, I found a video of the speech from CNBC. I’m watching Kamala now.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:19:37am
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darthstar  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:21:07am

re: #163 makeitstop

In other news…

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I loathe every single person who helped that Fat Bastard fuck this country over, but if they can tear him down I’ll applaud - but still loathe them.

If they want to stop him they can just stop working for him. He’s nothing without his army of servants.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:22:15am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:24:30am

re: #130 (((Archangel1)))

Friend of mine sent me this.
Given the fish in question, I can’t tell if it’s a translation error or the world’s most truthful product description. xD

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I can’t stop laughing. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:24:48am

As good as the speech was, now that it’s being chopped into sound bites on Twitter it’s looking a lot more brutal than it did in the moment.

Angry Joe is the best Joe.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:26:18am

re: #166 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:27:08am

re: #182 makeitstop

As good as the speech was, now that it’s being chopped into sound bites on Twitter it’s looking a lot more brutal than it did in the moment.

Angry Joe is the best Joe.

I’m just at the beginning of Joe’s speech. He’s already spitting fire, hot damn.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:27:22am

re: #183 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Very pretty Magnolia.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:28:48am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:30:27am

re: #179 darthstar

If they want to stop him they can just stop working for him. He’s nothing without his army of servants.

That ship sailed (and sunk) long ago.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:37:03am

I think this speech definitely makes Garland’s job trickier in the sense that he will need to be seen as independent of Biden. “A jury of their peers” will include people that think that, even if they think the insurrection was wrong, Republicans were justified in asking questions about the election.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:37:39am

I think Joe just said ‘fuck your feelings’ to Trump.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:39:03am

re: #189 darthstar

Joe said it in no uncertain terms and he did it all without using his name.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:39:08am

re: #188 Belafon

I don’t think there’s anything wrong in questioning the election. The problem is that they stopped questioning the election, and started defining their own narrative, with no evidence to support it. Then they whipped up an armed mob to act on that false narrative, selling it to them with nothing more than, “Democrats are dirty liars,” which they’ve been weaving into their core beliefs for decades.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:40:21am

re: #191 Dopamine Fish

I don’t think there’s anything wrong in questioning the election. The problem is that they stopped questioning the election, and started defining their own narrative, with no evidence to support it. Then they whipped up an armed mob to act on that false narrative, selling it to them with nothing more than, “Democrats are dirty liars,” which they’ve been weaving into their core beliefs for decades.

Totally agree.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:40:49am

re: #190 PhillyPretzel

Joe said it in no uncertain terms and he did it all without using his name.

He said it without using any of those words.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:41:05am

A thread.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:41:46am

re: #193 Belafon

Yes. He did not have to resort to 4 and 5 letter words. :)

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:43:42am

re: #188 Belafon

I think this speech definitely makes Garland’s job trickier in the sense that he will need to be seen as independent of Biden. “A jury of their peers” will include people that think that, even if they think the insurrection was wrong, Republicans were justified in asking questions about the election.

I think he did a pretty good job of keeping himself apart from Garland’s investigation. I watched while looking for overlap between Garland’s speech and this one, there was none.

This was more about drawing a bright line and seeing who stands where. The usual suspects are crying about the speech, but Joe laid out plain truth.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:44:19am

re: #169 makeitstop

We are already divided. The democrats need to embrace that division. Force them to detach even further all on their own. Make them rage before the midterms.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:45:26am

Heh.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:47:29am

re: #116 Shropshire Slasher

Paid posters are going to post.

Holy fuck! Where are my Soro’s Bux???

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:48:21am

I believe you can call this a full-court press.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:52:59am
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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:53:36am
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ericblair  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:54:59am

Good thread. The MAGAts aren’t worried about their families as much as we’d usually think.

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ericblair  Jan 6, 2022 • 7:59:12am

re: #202 lawhawk

Nice bland statement. It completely ignores who was responsible for inciting the insurrection, who enabled it, and who covered up the criminal conduct.

And so, because of this, Romney will do, what, exactly? Because it sure looks like “less than nothing”.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:10:33am
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No Malarkey!  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:11:34am

re: #204 ericblair

And so, because of this, Romney will do, what, exactly? Because it sure looks like “less than nothing”.

He will “bravely” refuse to endorse Trump when he is nominated for President by the GOP in 2024. That will be the full extent of Romney’s efforts, other than perhaps expressing “concern” and “disappointment.”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:14:02am

This is great, “leathery degenerate Roger Stone…”
“throbbing, cancerous gristle of Steve Bannon.”

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Teukka  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:14:42am
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Sherlock Hound  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:15:34am

re: #206 No Malarkey!

He will “bravely” refuse to endorse Trump when he is nominated for President by the GOP in 2024. That will be the full extent of Romney’s efforts, other than perhaps expressing “concern” and “disappointment.”

Brave Sir Romney.

He’s no different now than when he was our Governor.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:18:35am

re: #209 Sherlock Hound

Brave Sir Romney.

He’s no different now than when he was our Governor.

Romney will be hailed by MSM as a hero because most Republicans will enthusiastically support Trump’s campaign, and will work to install Trump as dictator if he loses the election.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:18:42am

re: #205 lawhawk

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:24:19am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:26:29am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:26:38am

Can’t be direct with assholes on Twitter.

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Teukka  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:27:39am

re: #208 Teukka

Beau dropped a new one:

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FWIW, when you comment on people who call the 2021-01-06 attempted coup a riot or unrest, point out that in most countries in Western Europe, what happened on that day is by legal definition an attempted coup d’etat, and that any service members (military or civilian) who’ve sworn their service oaths would most likely be facing charges of treason or high treason, where the penalties are in the range of 15 years imprisonment to imprisonment for life.
Usually without any possibility for pardon or parole.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:27:51am

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:29:56am

re: #160 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Honest to fucking god, the press is so fucking worthless. “Isn’t this more divisive?’ Fuck you and the broom you rode in on.

If he didn’t stab anyone with the sharpened end of a flag pole then, NO.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:30:29am

To the point of Biden’s speech being about drawing a line…

But for it to work, the messaging is going to have to be relentless. I think televised hearings will help, but Dems are going to have to shout Biden’s message from the rooftops, all day, every day.

The speech was a great opening salvo. But they’re going to have to bang that drum incessantly for it to make a difference.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:32:37am
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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:38:26am

re: #218 makeitstop

“Pelosi continued to echo Biden’s rhetoric on the events of January 6th. Will this continue to divide America? I talk to Senators Portman, Johnson, and Graham about it on Meet the Press.”

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:41:38am

Now I’m kind of half-wondering if Trump will try to pull together a press conference today.

It wouldn’t surprise me. Biden’s speech is clearly eating him up right now.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:42:14am

re: #220 Belafon

“Pelosi continued to echo Biden’s rhetoric on the events of January 6th. Will this continue to divide America? I talk to Senators Portman, Johnson, and Graham about it on Meet the Press.”

Hand that one to the NY Times Pitchbot Twitter account.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:44:14am

re: #220 Belafon

“Pelosi continued to echo Biden’s rhetoric on the events of January 6th. Will this continue to divide America? I talk to Senators Portman, Johnson, and Graham about it on Meet the Press.”

And they counter with Committee hearings, live. Maybe in prime time. In the run-up to the midterms. LFG.

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mmmirele  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:47:11am

re: #58 Dread Pirate Ron

Plus a down bag, and anything to make 24+ hours in a freezing car comfortable. More like a Tahoe winter trip kit.

For those of us who live in the desert southwest, let me tell you that just keeping emergency water in your car is NOT ENOUGH. Because emergency water at 122 is pretty horrible to drink. If you’re traveling in the summer in this part of the country, you need to take frozen bottles of water with you.

I’ve been trading words with a guy who supports the ex-members of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Executive Committee, the guys who resigned because the rest of the ExecComm decided to waive privilege in order to investigate the child sexual abuse covered up by the SBC Exec Comm. As you can see, I finally decided I’d had enough and cussed him out.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:51:34am

Umm…

I’ve been wondering if Darth was going to get involved.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:54:41am

re: #123 sagehen

Biden’s speech is about to start.

Why was the speech scheduled so early?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:56:08am

re: #226 Hecuba’s daughter

Why was the speech scheduled so early?

Total domination of today’s news cycle, maybe? It was over before I heard about it, but I’m sure there’s a recording I can watch somewhere.

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mmmirele  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:57:15am

re: #121 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Well, that’s just fucking awesome.

OK, I just posted about child sexual abuse, and I have two things to say about this:

1) What percentage of people were sexually abused as children? RAINN says it’s 1 in 9 girls and 1 in 53 boys. I’m going to state I believe those numbers are far higher.

rainn.org

In fact, I think in some American subcultures, sexual abuse is rampant, because of attitudes surrounding children, e.g., that they are parental property, that girls are less valuable than boys, and it’s just ok to sexually assault the weaker and less regarded.

2) It’s entirely possible that the two jurors did not realize they had been sexually abused until they actually heard testimony. I know I did not fully acknowledge I’d been sexually abused as a 9 YO until about 5 years ago, because I’d never really thought about what happened. (That said, my 9 YO self knew something terrible had happened. I wrecked my assaulter’s VW engine by disconnecting all the wiring in the aftermath of the assault. I got in trouble, not him. I couldn’t verbalize why I did what I did.) More recently, I didn’t realize that a vice principal (MR. FLOYD, IF YOU’RE STILL ALIVE 50 YEARS LATER) had compounded a sexual assault by a fellow junior high school student when he asked me intrusive questions about the actual assault, like “how far did he pull down your skirt”?

This is going to be terrible to say, but sexual assault is endemic in our society, we don’t acknowledge it, powerful forces try to cover it up and minimize it, and it’s entirely possible the jurors had no idea until they were in the trial what had happened to them.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:57:16am

re: #225 makeitstop

Umm…

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I’ve been wondering if Darth was going to get involved.

Well that’s something. Wonder what he might know/has heard?

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:59:15am

re: #227 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Total domination of today’s news cycle, maybe? It was over before I heard about it, but I’m sure there’s a recording I can watch somewhere.

There is, and you definitely should. It was a right proper banger of a speech.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 6, 2022 • 8:59:38am

re: #38 Targetpractice

A Scotsman pretending to be a Lithuanian serving in the Soviet Navy.

Only thing funnier was a Scotsman pretending to be a Spaniard.

Or Duncan Renaldo (The Cisco Kid), an illegal immigrant from Romania.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:04:09am

re: #227 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Total domination of today’s news cycle, maybe? It was over before I heard about it, but I’m sure there’s a recording I can watch somewhere.

Here’s one Of them.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:14:00am

re: #227 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Total domination of today’s news cycle, maybe? It was over before I heard about it, but I’m sure there’s a recording I can watch somewhere.

Exactly. He got the jump on everybody, news orgs included.

Nobody had time to spin anything.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:16:35am

re: #229 Eventual Carrion

Well that’s something. Wonder what he might know/has heard?

As much as I hate him, he’s forgotten more about the levers of power than the current crop of nitwits will ever learn.

Maybe the old lions of the GOP (however many of them there are left at this point) have seen enough.

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A Cranky One  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:16:52am

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:16:53am

re: #225 makeitstop

Umm…

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I’ve been wondering if Darth was going to get involved.

Did he bring his shotgun?

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Dangerman  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:17:19am

re: #231 BeenHereAwhile

Or Duncan Renaldo (The Cisco Kid), an illegal immigrant from Romania.

and now im singing that damn song….

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:20:47am

Maybe Liz is going to yield her time to the old man?

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:21:04am

And just like that, the party of Law And Order At the Border became Forgive and Forget the Disorder.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:21:44am

re: #169 makeitstop

Here comes the freakout…

Hit dog, howling.

Biden didn’t mention his name but calling out “the former President of the United States” makes it quite clear. So we can joke about it, but there is no ambiguity.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:23:22am

re: #240 Hecuba’s daughter

Joe and his writers know what they are doing.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:23:24am

re: #240 Hecuba’s daughter

Biden didn’t mention his name but calling out “the former President of the United States” makes it quite clear. So we can joke about it, but there is no ambiguity.

He’s probably not shading Jimmah.

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Dangerman  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:25:26am

re: #240 Hecuba’s daughter

Biden didn’t mention his name but calling out “the former President of the United States” makes it quite clear. So we can joke about it, but there is no ambiguity.

We know that.
i bet someone at mar-a-grifto had to explain who biden was talking about

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:28:13am

Re: my old poker blog. Hit me if you want the link. I didn’t realize at the time (or remember last night) that people actually read the shit I wrote. Funny that. I also didn’t realize I played online poker way more than I remembered last night (remembered by re-reading my own ancient posts!) but I will say most of that was with the pros I played with. Still, poker was the same then as it was the last time I played online a good handful of years ago…online players suck.

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mmmirele  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:28:55am

re: #215 Teukka

FWIW, when you comment on people who call the 2021-01-06 attempted coup a riot or unrest, point out that in most countries in Western Europe, what happened on that day is by legal definition an attempted coup d’etat, and that any service members (military or civilian) who’ve sworn their service oaths would most likely be facing charges of treason or high treason, where the penalties are in the range of 15 years imprisonment to imprisonment for life.
Usually without any possibility for pardon or parole.

There’s a word in Spanish for what Trump attempted to do, it’s autogolpe. It’s more elegant and has a lot more meaning than just “self-coup.” There’s history behind “autogolpe” too, relatively recent history. In 1992, Alberto Fujimori, then President of Peru, basically took over in a military coup.

en.wikipedia.org

Fujimori was punished—after he “won” a third term in 2000 after an election widely considered to be corrupt, he ended up leaving Peru and ending up in Japan in an “exile.” He ended up coming back to Peru where he was convicted of human rights violations and sent to prison. On December 24, 2017, he was pardoned and allowed to leave prison, but there were massive country-wide protests. This is a tl;dr, but Fujimori is back in prison, and his daughter Keiko ran for office last year with one of her platform planks being that she would pardon her father again. She lost.

en.wikipedia.org

Maybe the future of Trump and Ivanka, but we haven’t gotten there yet, obviously.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:30:11am

re: #228 mmmirele

This is going to be terrible to say, but sexual assault is endemic in our society, we don’t acknowledge it, powerful forces try to cover it up and minimize it, and it’s entirely possible the jurors had no idea until they were in the trial what had happened to them.

QFT. One hundred fucking percent!

And it is less times the monster of our nightmares or stranger danger but someone we know, a family member or friend of.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:31:41am

re: #240 Hecuba’s daughter

Biden didn’t mention his name but calling out “the former President of the United States” makes it quite clear. So we can joke about it, but there is no ambiguity.

Nor should there have been, right? I mean, really. I think they handled it brilliantly. It’s going to eat up the orange goblin. And that is going to be a joy to watch.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:33:07am

re: #247 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

As I said earlier how great it would be to be a fly on the wall for that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:33:37am

re: #241 PhillyPretzel

Joe and his writers know what they are doing.

Yeah, this “House of Cards” reboot is great.

/

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:34:03am

re: #194 Dopamine Fish

A thread.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:39:16am
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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:40:31am

re: #250 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

My Republican rep’s statement today:

“January 6th tested the fibers of our democracy and very well could have brought down our country,” Rice said in a statement Thursday. “Any reasonable person could have seen the potential for violence that day. Yet, our President did nothing to protect our country and stop the violence. The actions of the President on January 6th were nothing short of reprehensible.”

myrtlebeachonline.com

And yes, he is running for re-election and yes, I disagree with him about most all policy issues, but I’ll give him credit for putting it out there.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:41:25am

re: #225 makeitstop

Umm…

I’ve been wondering if Darth was going to get involved.

Would love to see his phone records

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:43:29am

re: #253 BeenHereAwhile

Would love to see his phone records

While Darth is a royal dickhead, I could not imagine him being involved with or approving of 1/6. He’s an old school fuckhead. Just like I can’t see Bush the Younger thinking, great shit guys! All shitheads nonetheless, but not like that.

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mmmirele  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:43:47am

re: #246 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

QFT. One hundred fucking percent!

And it is less times the monster of our nightmares or stranger danger but someone we know, a family member or friend of.

That’s right, which makes it even more difficult to discuss. I would point to the case of Josh Duggar, who was convicted early in December of receipt and possession of child sexual abuse material. It came out in 2015 that Duggar had sexually assaulted four of his younger sisters and another girl in 2002 and 2003. The awful horrible parents of Josh, Jim Bob and Meech, basically decided their eldest son was MORE IMPORTANT than their four daughters and protected him. While none of the now-adult daughters were brought in to testify about the incident, a (former) family friend, Bobye Holt, testified as to what she knew about Josh’s past sexual behavior, as her daughter was the non-family member that Josh sexually abused. But none of the daughters have actually stated they were sexually assaulted, but a couple of them have made very very very vague allusions. And some have publicly/not so publicly separated themselves out from the clan.

And that’s my point. When sexual abuse occurs, there’s so much pressure to cover it up and pretend it didn’t happen. It’s worse, I think, in families where they hold up their perfect family unit as not just salutary, but exemplary. But we found out that Jim Bob and Meech Duggar were quite willing to sacrifice their much less valuable daughters for the benefit of their golden boy son. And this happens over and over and over and over again. It is TIRESOME.

IT IS EPIDEMIC.

It needs to STOP.

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Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:44:38am

Just paged this: UPDATE: Another RWNJ Radio Host Who Mocked Vaccines, Dies of COVID

His casket will have only two handles. Because that’s how many handles there are on a garbage can.

As I said: the Jan. 6 coup anniversary has put me in a real sour mood, which is why perhaps I’m in such a dark place, emotionally.

Question: can liberal groups secretly fund MORE right-wing in-person gatherings?

Because the aftereffects of getting these choads all in the same space are really beneficial to democracy in America, and to the planet as a whole.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:44:55am

Scumbag.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:46:40am

re: #256 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

Just paged this: UPDATE: Another RWNJ Radio Host Who Mocked Vaccines, Dies of COVID

Question: can liberal groups secretly fund MORE right-wing in-person gatherings?

We don’t even have to do that. They are willingly killing themselves. Just sit back and enjoy (and try to keep the collateral damage to as close to zero as possible. If it wasn’t for that, I would be on board with them having as many conventions and rallies as they desire.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:49:31am

re: #256 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

Are all RWNJ radio hosts overweight white guys with cluttered work areas and a terrible fashion sense?

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:51:07am

re: #254 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

While Darth is a royal dickhead, I could not imagine him being involved with or approving of 1/6. He’s an old school fuckhead. Just like I can’t see Bush the Younger thinking, great shit guys! All shitheads nonetheless, but not like that.

Yeah, exactly. Darth Cheney comes from the old-school breed of Republicans, from a day and age when Republicans actually had honor and valued country over party. It’s worth noting that Liz is a staunch anti-insurrectionist, and I doubt that apple fell terribly far from the tree.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:51:17am

re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg

Are all RWNJ radio hosts overweight white guys with cluttered work areas and a terrible fashion sense?

If they had good fashion sense and were attractive, they would be on tv. Radio disguises all visual flaws.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:51:53am
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:54:08am

re: #262 Patricia Kayden

Lindsey would look good in stripes.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:54:38am

re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg

Are all RWNJ radio hosts overweight white guys with cluttered work areas and a terrible fashion sense?

They have a face for radio.

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Teukka  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:55:08am

re: #257 No Malarkey!

Scumbag.

Good friggin’ grief… 🤦‍♂️

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:55:29am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:55:45am
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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:57:29am

Trump continues projecting like IMAX and claiming that the crimes occurred on November 3.

Yeah, as it was becoming clear that Trump lost, Trump and his goons proceeded to conspire to invalidate the election and engage in election fraud to try and prevent Biden from taking office as legally voted.

From before November 3, Trump made it explicitly clear that he would not accept any election result where he wasn’t declared the winner. The GOP went nearly all-in for Trump on this endeavor, with 68% of the House GOP voting to not certify the results. They had no problem with their own election wins on the same fucking ballots, but found Biden winning to be subject of fraud.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:59:11am

More of this, plz.

They’re going to goad him into doing something really, really stupid.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 9:59:12am

re: #268 lawhawk

And of course, Biden’s speech early this morning explicitly broke down his lies. Of course, no Republican will believe him, because Republicans now believe anything a Democrat says is automatically a lie simply because they aren’t a Republican.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:01:11am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:01:46am

The January 6 insurrection was triggered by Pence’s refusal to capitulate to Trump’s demands to throw out the ballots from the 6 states that tfg was challenging. If Pence had consented, the Peter Navarro scenario may very well have succeeded. But then there would have been other violence — many of the 81 million who voted for Biden would not have taken this coup in silence.

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Teukka  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:02:39am

re: #269 makeitstop

More of this, plz.

They’re going to goad him into doing something really, really stupid.

Over/under on it being the figurative equivalent of trying to use a high-voltage power transmission line as a trapeze? Asking for a friend… /S

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:02:53am

The thread has closeups of them:

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:03:22am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:07:25am

re: #275 Belafon

And this should surprise people because?

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:07:53am
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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:08:25am

re: #271 Belafon

Beware the wrath of a gentle man; he is often slow to anger because he holds so much of it.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:08:44am

re: #277 Belafon

“It’s an important historical event. You can’t overestimate how important it is.” He added: “I’m deeply disappointed we don’t have better leadership in the Republican party to restore the Constitution.” - Dick Cheney

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:09:59am
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:11:28am
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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:13:25am

re: #281 jaunte

The way Junior pronounces ‘Kim-ber-leh’ in that video - and her stupid dance - make me want to just start punching things. Ultimate cringe.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:18:21am

Buffy the Vampire Slayer is now part of the Doctor Who universe thanks to the total incompetence of the people making this calendar.
The monster in the background is also from Doctor Who, but way back in 1971.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:18:59am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:19:35am

re: #284 Dopamine Fish

“Because he says he hasn’t been paid.”

Shocking.

///////////

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:19:50am

re: #283 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:20:12am

re: #256 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

Question: can liberal groups secretly fund MORE right-wing in-person gatherings?

Because the aftereffects of getting these choads all in the same space are really beneficial to democracy in America, and to the planet as a whole.

I assume you are being facetious: if the only people they affected and infected were each other I would say “Let’s go Darwin!”, but alas, they will also come in contact with a lot of other people along the way…

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:20:20am

re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg

“Because he says he hasn’t been paid.”

Shocking.

///////////

It’s a thread, and in it you can see exactly the kind of competence and acuity that makes Cyber Ninjas a shining star in the field of electoral auditing.////////////

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:21:04am

re: #283 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Anthony Head was in two episodes of Doctor Who, but that was David Tenet’s version of the Doctor.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:21:21am
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:21:56am

“War Room.”

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A Mom Anon  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:22:25am

Why am I hurting my head by watching Meet the Press? Jonah Fucking Goldberg is on there. Right now, defending his concept of liberal fascism, and sooo disappointed that Republicans “in a short 15 yrs have embraced the same ideals”.

This is why I avoid daytime tv most of the time.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:24:05am

Then there’s this (mistakenly previously said it was the end of the thread):

“If you let us grift, we’ll get you your records.”
“No thanks. How does contempt of court sound?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:26:01am

re: #267 Dread Pirate Ron

Looks like the Kremlin is deploying their disinformation and subversion troops along with their “peacekeepers” heading into Kazakhstan to crack heads. Allowing bottom-up democracy scares the little Tsar in the Kremlin to death.

The Putinversteher over at moonofalabama.org are all out calling this a “US-Directed Rebellion” because the Kazakh leaders were such beacons of integrity and examples of selfless dedication to the well-being of their people, just like their Idol, Vlad the Inhaler.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:26:13am

I other news, the asshole Cobb County Republicans called off their celebration honoring the fine Republicans who went to DC to defeat democracy because of negative public reactions. So maybe GA has a few sane people left in it? Maybe?

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:26:52am

re: #293 Dopamine Fish

That thread reads like a play in which conservatives are determined to wreck the legal system.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:28:58am

re: #295 A Mom Anon

I other news, the asshole Cobb County Republicans called off their celebration honoring the fine Republicans who went to DC to defeat democracy because of negative public reactions. So maybe GA has a few sane people left in it? Maybe?

GA did elect two Democrats.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 6, 2022 • 10:33:37am

re: #297 Belafon

GA did elect two Democrats.

The new Georgia anti-voting laws will prevent that from ever happening again, unless the Democrats can somehow pull a rabbit out of the hat and get Manchin and Sinema to agree to carve out a filibuster exemption for voting legislation.

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gocart mozart  Jan 6, 2022 • 11:11:15am

re: #224 mmmirele

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 6, 2022 • 11:18:15am

re: #256 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

Just paged this: UPDATE: Another RWNJ Radio Host Who Mocked Vaccines, Dies of COVID

[Embedded content]

As I said: the Jan. 6 coup anniversary has put me in a real sour mood, which is why perhaps I’m in such a dark place, emotionally.

Question: can liberal groups secretly fund MORE right-wing in-person gatherings?

Because the aftereffects of getting these choads all in the same space are really beneficial to democracy in America, and to the planet as a whole.


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