Tonight’s photo from the Lizard Collection is another Marvel Silver Age classic: Avengers #25, published in February 1966, set in the mythical Eastern European country of “Latveria.” The Avengers are all freaking out, but Dr. Doom, he’s cool.
The Lizard Collection’s copy is in outstanding condition, with white pages, bright inks, and a nearly perfect cover.
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boondocksaint Sat, May 8, 2010 8:30:01pm |
You have a beast of a collection. You planning on keeping them or selling them?
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 8:33:11pm |
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freetoken Sat, May 8, 2010 8:34:14pm |
Dr. Doom was one of the few Marvel characters I paid attention to back in my comic days.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 8:35:18pm |
Awesome video game villain.
Image: sephiroth.jpg
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 8, 2010 8:37:51pm |
re: #2 Varek Raith
Awesome villain.
Indeed. And great artwork on the comic. As ever, the Lizard Cache never fails to delight.
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Charles Johnson Sat, May 8, 2010 8:39:51pm |
re: #1 boondocksaint
You have a beast of a collection. You planning on keeping them or selling them?
We're getting some of the key books graded by the CGC, and we'll decide what to do after we get a reliable idea of what it's all worth.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 8, 2010 8:41:15pm |
Saw Iron Man II today.
I stayed until the end.
Unlike that Smurf movie.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 8, 2010 8:41:54pm |
re: #8 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Saw Iron Man II today.
I stayed until the end.
Unlike that Smurf movie.
I saw it last night. It's a good time. Not a great movie, but its a fun one.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 8, 2010 8:42:00pm |
re: #5 Varek Raith
Looks like the bad guy from Hellboy II, The Golden Army.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 8, 2010 8:42:31pm |
re: #9 engineer dog
Well, it's the score of your Karma.
/
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 8:43:21pm |
wait... there is no Latveria? Glad to know that, I was just about to buy into a start up Laterivan Green Energy group.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 8:43:30pm |
re: #11 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Looks like the bad guy from Hellboy II, The Golden Army.
Really? Huh, that villain I posted is from a 1996 game.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 8, 2010 8:44:19pm |
I'm liking Mickey Rorke's new look. He's gonna be in a lot of movies within the next ten years.
Mickey Rorke and Danny Trejo.
The two most un-CGI bad assed looking dudes on the planet.
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What, me worry? Sat, May 8, 2010 8:45:05pm |
re: #15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm liking Mickey Rorke's new look. He's gonna be in a lot of movies within the next ten years.
Mickey Rorke and Danny Trejo.
The two most un-CGI bad assed looking dudes on the planet.
I like Trejo's story. Real rags to riches.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, May 8, 2010 8:45:43pm |
re: #7 Charles
Is this one going to get graded?
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Sheila Broflovski Sat, May 8, 2010 8:46:02pm |
re: #13 brookly red
wait... there is no Latveria? Glad to know that, I was just about to buy into a start up Laterivan Green Energy group.
Did you get an email from the Prime Minister of Latveria, asking you to exchange $11 million worth of Latverian zlotys.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 8, 2010 8:46:11pm |
re: #14 Varek Raith
Okay. But that dude looks like this dude...
So that dude was based on your dude. Still, pretty scary looking dude.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 8, 2010 8:46:32pm |
re: #15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm liking Mickey Rorke's new look. He's gonna be in a lot of movies within the next ten years.
Mickey Rorke and Danny Trejo.
The two most un-CGI bad assed looking dudes on the planet.
He was awesome in Sin City.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 8:46:48pm |
re: #19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Okay. But that dude looks like this dude...
So that dude was based on your dude. Still, pretty scary looking dude.
Neat. Never did see that movie.
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engineer cat Sat, May 8, 2010 8:46:59pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 8, 2010 8:47:30pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, May 8, 2010 8:48:58pm |
re: #23 engineer dog
Karma is the sum of your updings, minus your downdings.
So, you've posted 148 comments, and your Karma is at 295. You're in the plus column!
If you click your nic, this is what you will see.
Karma: 295
engineer dog
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Registered since: Apr 29, 2010 at 1:56 pm
No. of comments posted: 148
No. of links posted: 0
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 8:49:25pm |
re: #18 Alouette
Did you get an email from the Prime Minister of Latveria, asking you to exchange $11 million worth of Latverian zlotys.
yeah I made out OK on that one... I repackaged it and sold it to Fannie Mae.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 8:50:17pm |
re: #26 Floral Giraffe
If you click your nic, this is what you will see.Karma: 295
engineer dog
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Ooh, you hatched on my birthday. I will take a special interest in you...
have a cupcake.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 8:50:25pm |
re: #28 brookly red
yeah I made out OK on that one... I repackaged it and sold it to Fannie Mae.
I'm the proud owner of the entire Mongolian Navy!
;)
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engineer cat Sat, May 8, 2010 8:50:56pm |
re: #26 Floral Giraffe
thx
this place has quite the infrastructure
speaking as a professional bit pusher, i'm impressed!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 8, 2010 8:51:05pm |
re: #16 marjoriemoon
I like Trejo's story. Real rags to riches.
There's a really good documentary about him called Champion.
As busy as he is with all of his acting projects, he still has time to counsel and sponsor recovering drug addicts. And it's really cool that he and Edward Bunker first met in prison.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, May 8, 2010 8:51:10pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 8, 2010 8:51:21pm |
re: #26 Floral Giraffe
Oh hell! I'm way in the minus column. And I'm a ding whore.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 8:52:20pm |
re: #34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
helping you out there
have a cupcake, honco!
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 8:52:37pm |
re: #30 Varek Raith
I'm the proud owner of the entire Mongolian Navy!
;)
whoa, dude you are due a huge stimulus bailout.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, May 8, 2010 8:52:57pm |
re: #34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh hell! I'm way in the minus column. And I'm a ding whore.
Liar, liar, pants on fire!
Ding whore, well, maybe ;)
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 8, 2010 8:53:08pm |
Dr. Doom is pretty cool, and so is Baron Ünderbheit
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 8:53:21pm |
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 8:54:46pm |
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Jadespring Sat, May 8, 2010 8:55:07pm |
re: #8 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Saw Iron Man II today.
I stayed until the end.
Unlike that Smurf movie.
How was it?
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What, me worry? Sat, May 8, 2010 8:55:42pm |
re: #32 Mad Al-Jaffee
There's a really good documentary about him called Champion.
As busy as he is with all of his acting projects, he still has time to counsel and sponsor recovering drug addicts. And it's really cool that he and Edward Bunker first met in prison.
I didn't see the documentary. I'll check it out! Yes, he credits AA with turning his life around. I must agree. It's an addict's best friend, only friend.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 8, 2010 8:56:08pm |
re: #41 Mad Al-Jaffee
I liked Baron Von Raschke.
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 8:56:19pm |
Ixnay on the Oilagespay.
Though I feel like the trailers have shown me half the flick already.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 8, 2010 8:57:58pm |
re: #44 Jadespring
I loved it. Rourke is great.
I am also very, very happy for RDJ.
I've been a fan since I saw him play "Chaplin". Not a Trejo-esque turn around, but a huge turn around. Hope he's gonna stay okay.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 8:59:01pm |
re: #25 reine.de.tout
reine,
when is the deadline for the 3rd cookbook? i'll have to send in my 'Elven Waybread' cookie recipe.
(since i will have to bake another batch between now and BayCon)
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 8, 2010 8:59:13pm |
re: #45 marjoriemoon
I didn't see the documentary. I'll check it out! Yes, he credits AA with turning his life around. I must agree. It's an addict's best friend, only friend.
Trejo got his first movie role (in Runaway Train) when a guy he was sponsoring was working on the movie and freaked out by all of the drugs around him. Trejo came over to keep him from using again and he was asked to play a non-speaking role. Bunker recognized him and got him a bigger role. The story's more detailed than that and he tells it in the documentary.
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:01:16pm |
re: #46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I liked Baron Von Raschke.
I actually know how to wear a monocle... scares the crap outta people....
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Jadespring Sat, May 8, 2010 9:03:26pm |
re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I loved it. Rourke is great.
I am also very, very happy for RDJ.
I've been a fan since I saw him play "Chaplin". Not a Trejo-esque turn around, but a huge turn around. Hope he's gonna stay okay.
Cool. I considered seeing it this weekend but decided to wait until midweek to avoid lots of people.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 8, 2010 9:04:20pm |
I hope I am first to wish the Lizard Momma Army a happy Mother's Day.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, May 8, 2010 9:05:13pm |
re: #49 Querent
reine,
when is the deadline for the 3rd cookbook? i'll have to send in my 'Elven Waybread' cookie recipe.(since i will have to bake another batch between now and BayCon)
Give the poor Cookbook folks time to breathe!
It's a long way off.
Start practicing! You've got more than 6 months!
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 9:05:44pm |
re: #51 brookly red
I actually know how to wear a monocle... scares the crap outta people...
RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! IT'S THE MONOPOLY GUY!
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:06:06pm |
re: #53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I hope I am first to wish the Lizard Momma Army a happy Mother's Day.
the LMA? oh great another watchlist at the airport...
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, May 8, 2010 9:06:54pm |
re: #54 Floral Giraffe
Give the poor Cookbook folks time to breathe!
It's a long way off.
Start practicing! You've got more than 6 months!
And buy #2 - NOW!
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:07:57pm |
re: #55 laZardo
RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! IT'S THE MONOPOLY GUY!
naw, I save it for those meeting where they tell me you gotta come but you can't say anything... I just scowl & take notes on my clipboard.
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bagua Sat, May 8, 2010 9:08:22pm |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 8, 2010 9:08:52pm |
re: #58 brookly red
If a single lens is called a monocle, why aren't regular glasses called biocles?
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 9:09:05pm |
re: #53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I hope I am first to wish the Lizard Momma Army a happy Mother's Day.
Pfft. Always kissing up to mom... :P
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 8, 2010 9:09:20pm |
re: #49 Querent
We need sales. A lot of people did a lot work and they aren't going to do it again if the cookbook doesn't sell. Times are tough and a lot of lizards are out of work. If you can afford it, buy it.
[Link: lgfcookbook.blogspot.com...]
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:09:39pm |
re: #60 Mad Al-Jaffee
If a single lens is called a monocle, why aren't regular glasses called biocles?
do I look like frickin Webster to you?
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b_sharp Sat, May 8, 2010 9:09:41pm |
re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, it's the score of your Karma.
/
Karma is kinda like the proverbial fat lady.
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 9:10:08pm |
re: #58 brookly red
naw, I save it for those meeting where they tell me you gotta come but you can't say anything... I just scowl & take notes on my clipboard.
Jimmy - don't let him pass Go and claim $200.
Harry - looks like the type you could give Baltic Avenue for his Boardwalk.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 9:10:14pm |
re: #63 brookly red
do I look like frickin Webster to you?
Dammit, Jim! I'm a doctor not a dictionary!
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 9:10:49pm |
re: #64 b_sharp
Karma is kinda like
the proverbial fat lady.your mom.
fix'd.
/If you do something, she'll make sure it comes back to you.
//also happy mothers day.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 8, 2010 9:11:25pm |
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 9:12:04pm |
re: #54 Floral Giraffe
Good. time to actually write the recipe down, then.
(And run a few more test batches with different grain flours...)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, May 8, 2010 9:12:55pm |
I don't even have to change my avatar for Mother's Day.
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:13:19pm |
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b_sharp Sat, May 8, 2010 9:13:26pm |
re: #26 Floral Giraffe
Karma is the sum of your updings, minus your downdings.
So, you've posted 148 comments, and your Karma is at 295. You're in the plus column!If you click your nic, this is what you will see.
Karma: 295
engineer dog
(Logged in)
Registered since: Apr 29, 2010 at 1:56 pm
No. of comments posted: 148
No. of links posted: 0
The higher the ratio of karma to posts is, the more centrist your comments are viewed to be.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 9:14:11pm |
re: #62 Killgore Trout
thanks, KT.
I'm one of those lizards on 'state-funded sabbatical'. However, once i CAN get some income, i'll be getting them both.
(especially 'cause i want to see your gardening section)
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 9:14:39pm |
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 9:14:41pm |
re: #74 b_sharp
Karma: 5,193
Posted: 12,945 (not including this one)
Aww, I'm not an extremist yet. ;_;
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freetoken Sat, May 8, 2010 9:14:44pm |
Understatement of the Month:
Don McLeroy, the dentist who wants to drill pupils in Creationism
Dr McLeroy demurs. “I love science.” When it comes to criticising Darwin, he says, “there is just a huge ideological resistance that I fail to understand”.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 8, 2010 9:15:52pm |
So... if you work at a supermarket, as a cashier, what else do you ask a customer... "Sir... would you like to check out now?" Does that sound like I am asking the customer if they want to kick the bucket, bite the big one... die?
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 9:16:43pm |
re: #79 freetoken
Understatement of the Month:
Don McLeroy, the dentist who wants to drill pupils in Creationism
W?
T?
F?
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freetoken Sat, May 8, 2010 9:16:55pm |
re: #80 Walter L. Newton
Were you holding a shotgun in the customer's face at the time?
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:17:02pm |
re: #80 Walter L. Newton
So... if you work at a supermarket, as a cashier, what else do you ask a customer... "Sir... would you like to check out now?" Does that sound like I am asking the customer if they want to kick the bucket, bite the big one... die?
depends... what you got in your hand?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 8, 2010 9:17:10pm |
re: #72 EmmmieG
Thanks.
I truly love that. You'll find an avatar that you want to change to, one day. I might forgive you.
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What, me worry? Sat, May 8, 2010 9:17:23pm |
re: #79 freetoken
Understatement of the Month:
Don McLeroy, the dentist who wants to drill pupils in Creationism
It's probably late, but I thought you were talking about eyeballs. And I thought, eewww.
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b_sharp Sat, May 8, 2010 9:17:57pm |
re: #78 laZardo
Karma: 5,193
Posted: 12,945 (not including this one)Aww, I'm not an extremist yet. ;_;
Keep trying, you'll get there.;P
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, May 8, 2010 9:18:06pm |
A shorter thread would be 'Legendary Comic Books Charles Johnson Does Not Own'
Though, I do notice a distinct lack of DC titles...
/inb4 Action Comics #1 and Detective Comics #27
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 8, 2010 9:18:20pm |
re: #80 Walter L. Newton
Try "Fuck you very much" sometime. I've never had anyone catch me doing it.
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b_sharp Sat, May 8, 2010 9:18:22pm |
re: #79 freetoken
Understatement of the Month:
Don McLeroy, the dentist who wants to drill pupils in Creationism
No shit.
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UncleSam Sat, May 8, 2010 9:19:20pm |
Doctor Doom is the best villain ever.
Darth Vader is just a cheap and obvious Doctor Doom ripoff.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 9:19:30pm |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 8, 2010 9:19:36pm |
re: #82 freetoken
Were you holding a shotgun in the customer's face at the time?
re: #83 brookly red
depends... what you got in your hand?
re: #85 Querent
No... nothing in my hand, no one questioned that statement, but tonight, it crossed my sick mind that it could be taken in the wrong way...
why... did somebody say that to you?
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:20:41pm |
re: #82 freetoken
Were you holding a shotgun in the customer's face at the time?
/an educated consumer is our best customer...
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 9:21:05pm |
re: #80 Walter L. Newton
How about, "Hi, how is your day going?"
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Racer X Sat, May 8, 2010 9:21:28pm |
re: #80 Walter L. Newton
So... if you work at a supermarket, as a cashier, what else do you ask a customer... "Sir... would you like to check out now?" Does that sound like I am asking the customer if they want to kick the bucket, bite the big one... die?
You could go all existentialism and ask "is that all there is?"
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 8, 2010 9:21:28pm |
Nice song about a man feeling helpless while his wife gives birth.
It's a buzzkill, but I'm going to bed... so listen, it ends happy.
Not like Live's "Lightening Crashes" or anything...
I heart Kate Bush.
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:21:43pm |
re: #93 Walter L. Newton
blame it on "you can check out any time you want, but you can never leave"...
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 9:22:18pm |
re: #97 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
She's a brilliant artist. Goodnight, kh.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 9:22:46pm |
re: #98 brookly red
blame it on "you can check out any time you want, but you can never leave"...
"It's been revoked."
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 8, 2010 9:23:39pm |
re: #79 freetoken
Understatement of the Month:
Don McLeroy, the dentist who wants to drill pupils in Creationism
He fails to understand many things. And he also EPIC FAILs quite often as well.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 9:23:55pm |
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:24:03pm |
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 9:24:19pm |
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 9:24:26pm |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
He fails to understand many things. And he also EPIC FAILs quite often as well.
Oh, so THAT's who this pallet-load of FAIL is for... where's his office?
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 9:24:31pm |
re: #97 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wow. I haven't heard this in years. With good reason. Brings back memories.
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engineer cat Sat, May 8, 2010 9:24:55pm |
re: #74 b_sharp
The higher the ratio of karma to posts is, the more centrist your comments are viewed to be.
centrist
hmmmmn... this is making he wonder about the topology of the lizard spectrum
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b_sharp Sat, May 8, 2010 9:25:26pm |
re: #96 Racer X
You could go all existentialism and ask "is that all there is?"
Just as a weird story, my Existential Psychology prof jumped off a 15 story building in the mid '80s.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, May 8, 2010 9:25:36pm |
For Mother's Day, my kids took me to eat a local burger-fries-and-pie place. We decided to eat on the patio (fewer witnesses that way). I made the mistake of pointing out the surveillance camera.
That was better than any dinner theater. I had never heard of "Rock-Paper-Spock" before. Have you? How about "Rock-Paper-You're a Loser"?
I won't even describe the dance routines.
The only bad part was that we didn't have a camera, for evidence.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 8, 2010 9:26:13pm |
re: #49 Querent
reine,
when is the deadline for the 3rd cookbook? i'll have to send in my 'Elven Waybread' cookie recipe.(since i will have to bake another batch between now and BayCon)
Oh, I'm glad you asked.
If you email me a recipe I will keep it IN CASE there is a volume 3.
But there will be no volume 3 if Volume 2 doesn't sell. We've only sold 24 books thus far; we had sold more than twice that of Volume 1 by this time after it had been rolled out.
Anyhoo - there is a link at LGF for the cookbook, Reality Bites! - for anyone who is interested. Upper left, you'll see it.
We also will need someone with expertise in and access to InDesign or other publishing software.
And of course, we would need to ask Jaunte if he's interested in doing art for a Volume 3.
The biggest problem right now - Volume 2 isn't selling in the quantities we had hoped for.
It's priced LESS than Volume 1, and Jaunte's art is INSIDE as well as on the cover, and Cato wrote a special poem featuring favorite lizards, and then there is Killgore's Very Own Gardening Section, which is quite impressive.
Check it out!
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 9:26:17pm |
re: #97 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
[Video]
Nice song about a man feeling helpless while his wife gives birth.
It's a buzzkill, but I'm going to bed... so listen, it ends happy.
Not like Live's "Lightening Crashes" or anything...
I heart Kate Bush.
I heart George Bush.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 9:26:22pm |
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:26:56pm |
re: #74 b_sharp
The higher the ratio of karma to posts is, the more centrist your comments are viewed to be.
/put your hands on your head & step back from my pizza...
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UncleSam Sat, May 8, 2010 9:27:09pm |
Anyone who loves comics should read "Soon I Will Be Invincible" by Austin Grossman.
Best book I've read in years, with an equally great cover.
Brilliant stuff.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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b_sharp Sat, May 8, 2010 9:27:11pm |
re: #107 engineer dog
centrist
hmmmn... this is making he wonder about the topology of the lizard spectrum
Centrist is a relative term.
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 9:27:16pm |
re: #106 JasonA
Wow. I haven't heard this in years. With good reason. Brings back memories.
Kate has the ability to do that. She is brilliant.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, May 8, 2010 9:27:34pm |
re: #113 brookly red
/put your hands on your head & step back from my pizza...
What? Me? I was just holding this pineapple for a friend.
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Racer X Sat, May 8, 2010 9:27:54pm |
re: #108 b_sharp
Just as a weird story, my Existential Psychology prof jumped off a 15 story building in the mid '80s.
I was gonna crack a joke, but that is just sad.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 9:27:59pm |
re: #80 Walter L. Newton
So... if you work at a supermarket, as a cashier, what else do you ask a customer... "Sir... would you like to check out now?" Does that sound like I am asking the customer if they want to kick the bucket, bite the big one... die?
I assume that if they're approaching the counter they want to check out. How about "Did you find everything you needed?"?
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Bagua Sat, May 8, 2010 9:28:05pm |
re: #80 Walter L. Newton
So... if you work at a supermarket, as a cashier, what else do you ask a customer... [...]
Should you be eating all those Cheetos in your condition?
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 9:28:19pm |
Minsc and Boo.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, May 8, 2010 9:28:45pm |
you get gnihton.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 8, 2010 9:29:02pm |
re: #114 UncleSam
Anyone who loves comics should read "Soon I Will Be Invincible" by Austin Grossman.
Best book I've read in years, with an equally great cover.
Brilliant stuff.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
The only ones I've been reading recently have been DMZ, Walking Dead and anything Peter Bagge puts out.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 8, 2010 9:29:06pm |
re: #54 Floral Giraffe
Give the poor Cookbook folks time to breathe!
It's a long way off.
Start practicing! You've got more than 6 months!
hehehe!
I'm already collecting. Just in case.
re: #57 Stanley Sea
And buy #2 - NOW!
YES!!!
re: #62 Killgore Trout
We need sales. A lot of people did a lot work and they aren't going to do it again if the cookbook doesn't sell. Times are tough and a lot of lizards are out of work. If you can afford it, buy it.
[Link: lgfcookbook.blogspot.com...]
Thanks, Killgore.
Yes, if it's affordable, please check it out, and buy a copy! Sales proceeds go to support LGF and Soldier's Angels. And you know, Charles has provided us with lots of great stuff, here! On his dime. So please help if you can!
And you'll have great recipes, too.
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 9:29:58pm |
re: #121 Varek Raith
"Me will crush you! Crush you to goo!"
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Racer X Sat, May 8, 2010 9:30:30pm |
A grandmother is a babysitter who watches the kids instead
of the television.
- Author Unknown
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 8, 2010 9:30:33pm |
re: #105 Querent
Oh, so THAT's who this pallet-load of FAIL is for... where's his office?
The only problem I had with the article was that it neglected to mention that McLeroy lost the Republican nomination for his School Board seat. Right now he's a lame duck.
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UncleSam Sat, May 8, 2010 9:30:46pm |
re: #123 Mad Al-Jaffee
The only ones I've been reading recently have been DMZ, Walking Dead and anything Peter Bagge puts out.
Soon I Will Be Invincible isn't a comic, it's a novel about superheroes and supervillains.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 9:31:31pm |
re: #124 reine.de.tout
arrgh... guess i better scrape all those recyclables together and see if i can afford at least one volume...
(at least with the new filing deadlines i have dropped seamlessly onto the second extension. Got a networking event every week this month and recently made a good contact at one of my former (local and huge) customers. 11 months so far and i'm sure there are lizards who've been out longer!)
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b_sharp Sat, May 8, 2010 9:32:13pm |
re: #118 Racer X
I was gonna crack a joke, but that is just sad.
He was a good man, he and one of his grad students helped me through a tough time. Unfortunately, his philosophy and his circumstances gave him one choice.
I still have a bit of existentialism buried deep in my psyche somewhere.
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Bagua Sat, May 8, 2010 9:32:52pm |
Whinge!
Not yet possible to post Mp3 in LGF Diaries.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 8, 2010 9:33:07pm |
re: #128 UncleSam
Soon I Will Be Invincible isn't a comic, it's a novel about superheroes and supervillains.
Oh, cool. I'll have to check it out. Have you read The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay?
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 9:33:27pm |
re: #108 b_sharp
Just as a weird story, my Existential Psychology prof jumped off a 15 story building in the mid '80s.
Ignorance is, sadly, bliss.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 8, 2010 9:33:53pm |
re: #124 reine.de.tout
Thanks, Killgore.
Yes, if it's affordable, please check it out, and buy a copy! Sales proceeds go to support LGF and Soldier's Angels. And you know, Charles has provided us with lots of great stuff, here! On his dime. So please help if you can!
And you'll have great recipes, too.
I'll see if I'm able to buy one. Right now, though, I'm going to bed. I got tired early. Good night, all.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 8, 2010 9:34:07pm |
Ok.. so, I spend my whole short 4 hour shift tonight at the U-scan, which I would like to rename the "U're Fucked"
I am starting to spot the customers who should stay away from the U-scan all together. Any men in cowboy boots and women in high heels.
There is something ass-backward about the concept of doing a good job at the U-san station. You're doing a really good job when you are fixing all the problems that the customer is causing.
Really, this happened tonight, a customer was talking back to one of the U-scan stations. It would go "do you have any coupons?" and he answers "no dammit, I just want to pay..." I walked up behind him and suggested... "watch out for station 6, it's pretty sensitive to criticism... last week someone was arguing with it and suddenly the laser came whipping out from under the glass and... well... haven't seen that customer since..."
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 8, 2010 9:34:35pm |
re: #129 Querent
arrgh... guess i better scrape all those recyclables together and see if i can afford at least one volume...
(at least with the new filing deadlines i have dropped seamlessly onto the second extension. Got a networking event every week this month and recently made a good contact at one of my former (local and huge) customers. 11 months so far and i'm sure there are lizards who've been out longer!)
The books are printed on demand, so they won't sell out! If you can't do it now, well, then, you can't! They'll be there.
The message wasn't just for you.
But Killgore's gardening section really is great.
As are the recipes. And the art. And Cato's back cover poem.
Really.
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 9:35:55pm |
re: #109 EmmmieG
A parade of love for their mama, EmmieG! You are giving them a phenomenal education. Mama bows and bows....
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:36:26pm |
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 9:36:41pm |
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Bagua Sat, May 8, 2010 9:36:46pm |
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 9:36:56pm |
re: #136 reine.de.tout
i know... it's just that i've got to pace all the things that i want vs. need, and justify like Hell for both categories.
(at least the amount CA pays covers the mortgage and all the bills. what a comfort that is.)
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 8, 2010 9:37:24pm |
re: #135 Walter L. Newton
Ok.. so, I spend my whole short 4 hour shift tonight at the U-scan, which I would like to rename the "U're Fucked"
I am starting to spot the customers who should stay away from the U-scan all together. Any men in cowboy boots and women in high heels.
There is something ass-backward about the concept of doing a good job at the U-san station. You're doing a really good job when you are fixing all the problems that the customer is causing.
Really, this happened tonight, a customer was talking back to one of the U-scan stations. It would go "do you have any coupons?" and he answers "no dammit, I just want to pay..." I walked up behind him and suggested... "watch out for station 6, it's pretty sensitive to criticism... last week someone was arguing with it and suddenly the laser came whipping out from under the glass and... well... haven't seen that customer since..."
LOL.
That could have been me! I'm always talking to the machines, there's so much rigamarole you gotta go through to finish up with those things. And even though I always put my items in the bagging section, the bagging section isn't sensitive enough to pick it up, apparently, so I have the machine telling me over and over to put the item in the bagging section, and when I pick the item up to set it back down again, that's a whole nother message, and so I have to take something from the basket and slam it down into the bagging section before picking it back up and scanning it - well, you get the picture. I'm always talking to the machines.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 9:37:43pm |
re: #142 Sigma_x
What's up people? How's everything on Planet Lizard?
our updings are up!
we're meeting quota every thread!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, May 8, 2010 9:37:51pm |
re: #135 Walter L. Newton
I have talked back to the U-Scan. Usually, "Oh, calm down. I'm looking for it."
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 9:37:55pm |
re: #142 Sigma_x
What's up people? How's everything on Planet Lizard?
Hey, Sigma! How did you ride the stocks see saw last week?
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 9:38:37pm |
re: #135 Walter L. Newton
Ok.. so, I spend my whole short 4 hour shift tonight at the U-scan, which I would like to rename the "U're Fucked"
I am starting to spot the customers who should stay away from the U-scan all together. Any men in cowboy boots and women in high heels.
There is something ass-backward about the concept of doing a good job at the U-san station. You're doing a really good job when you are fixing all the problems that the customer is causing.
Really, this happened tonight, a customer was talking back to one of the U-scan stations. It would go "do you have any coupons?" and he answers "no dammit, I just want to pay..." I walked up behind him and suggested... "watch out for station 6, it's pretty sensitive to criticism... last week someone was arguing with it and suddenly the laser came whipping out from under the glass and... well... haven't seen that customer since..."
*Warning beep*
Drop your coupon. You have 15 seconds to comply!
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 9:39:32pm |
re: #147 Varek Raith
*Warning beep*
Drop your coupon. You have 15 seconds to comply!
Or you will be EXTERMINATED!!!
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Sigma_x Sat, May 8, 2010 9:39:39pm |
re: #146 prairiefire
Hey, Sigma! How did you ride the stocks see saw last week?
I started going short a little over a week ago. I'm not gonna say I saw this coming to the extent that it came; but I knew we were in for a correction of some sort.
The thing is now is that we might get a drop in the market that makes the one in '08/'09 look like a walk in the park.
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 9:40:26pm |
re: #147 Varek Raith
*Warning beep*
Drop your coupon. You have 15 seconds to comply!
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Ojoe Sat, May 8, 2010 9:40:37pm |
re: #74 b_sharp
The higher the ratio of karma to posts is, the more centrist your comments are viewed to be.
Yes, except if you were posting before there was "karma", then there is a correction for the ancient posts.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 8, 2010 9:40:42pm |
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UncleSam Sat, May 8, 2010 9:41:53pm |
re: #132 Mad Al-Jaffee
Oh, cool. I'll have to check it out. Have you read The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay?
I tried, but found it sluggish, tedious and just pretty much unreadable..
At the beginning, nothing happens, then, suddenly, nothing happens, then nothing happens again.
Repeat ad infinitum.
Friends who tried to read it also gave up.
Can't understand why it received so much praise.
Strangely, both authors are from Berkeley.
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Ojoe Sat, May 8, 2010 9:42:21pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 8, 2010 9:43:48pm |
re: #151 Ojoe
Yes, except if you were posting before there was "karma", then there is a correction for the ancient posts.
What sort of correction?
Someone a night or two ago tried to insult me by pointing out that his karma/comment ratio was 2 to 1, whereas mine was NOT, therefore -- he had the higher ground, or something.
I was also called a "fixture".
Not sure what thatwas supposed to mean.
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:44:14pm |
re: #145 EmmmieG
I have talked back to the U-Scan. Usually, "Oh, calm down. I'm looking for it."
I have 10 items from .99 cents to 10 dollars... and I should not accidentally scan the 99 cent item twice & never the 10 dollar one? LOL
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 9:44:23pm |
re: #151 Ojoe
Yes, except if you were posting before there was "karma", then there is a correction for the ancient posts.
I think it would be very safe to assume that if you haven't flounced since before there was "karma," then you're pretty centrist indeed.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 8, 2010 9:44:29pm |
re: #153 UncleSam
I loved it and had no problems getting through it. The Yiddish Policeman's Union was pretty good too but I thought K&C was much better.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 9:45:13pm |
re: #156 reine.de.tout
What sort of correction?
Someone a night or two ago tried to insult me by pointing out that his karma/comment ratio was 2 to 1, whereas mine was NOT, therefore -- he had the higher ground, or something.
I was also called a "fixture".
Not sure what thatwas supposed to mean.
What...
Any karma above "0" is good enough for me!
:)
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 8, 2010 9:45:17pm |
re: #143 reine.de.tout
LOL.
That could have been me! I'm always talking to the machines, there's so much rigamarole you gotta go through to finish up with those things. And even though I always put my items in the bagging section, the bagging section isn't sensitive enough to pick it up, apparently, so I have the machine telling me over and over to put the item in the bagging section, and when I pick the item up to set it back down again, that's a whole nother message, and so I have to take something from the basket and slam it down into the bagging section before picking it back up and scanning it - well, you get the picture. I'm always talking to the machines.
You know how the cashiers all stand at the head of their check out aisle's when it's not too busy, waiting to service customers? Well, the other night, about 10:00 pm, I suggested we all work up a kick line.
"One... singular sensation... every little breath...
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, May 8, 2010 9:46:21pm |
re: #135 Walter L. Newton
Ok.. so, I spend my whole short 4 hour shift tonight at the U-scan, which I would like to rename the "U're Fucked"
I am starting to spot the customers who should stay away from the U-scan all together. Any men in cowboy boots and women in high heels.
There is something ass-backward about the concept of doing a good job at the U-san station. You're doing a really good job when you are fixing all the problems that the customer is causing.
"The customer is always right" is one of the most maladaptive ideas ever farted out by the human mind.
Once upon a time, about 15 years ago, I worked at Office Depot. Everyone lived in perpetual fear of the District Manager, whose name was (I'm not making this up) Dee Mayo.
This guy espoused obsequious "customer service" ideas that would make your skin crawl. For example, he claimed that he once worked at a gas station that was robbed. According to his story, his co-worker was shot and killed by the robber. But, as the story went, he 'instinctively' THANKED the robber as he fled for coming in , because that's how dedicated to Good Customer Service he was.
He repeated this story ad nauseum, as though we were supposed to find it inspirational and exemplary. As it happens, I don't even know if "Dee Mayo" is still associated with Office Depot in any way, but nevertheless, it's a big reason why to this day I would rather set my balls on fire than give $1 to Office Depot.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 8, 2010 9:46:26pm |
I need to get to bed. Very busy (and productive) day and I'm expecting another tomorrow.
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 9:46:42pm |
re: #135 Walter L. Newton
Ok.. so, I spend my whole short 4 hour shift tonight at the U-scan, which I would like to rename the "U're Fucked"
I am starting to spot the customers who should stay away from the U-scan all together. Any men in cowboy boots and women in high heels.
There is something ass-backward about the concept of doing a good job at the U-san station. You're doing a really good job when you are fixing all the problems that the customer is causing.
Really, this happened tonight, a customer was talking back to one of the U-scan stations. It would go "do you have any coupons?" and he answers "no dammit, I just want to pay..." I walked up behind him and suggested... "watch out for station 6, it's pretty sensitive to criticism... last week someone was arguing with it and suddenly the laser came whipping out from under the glass and... well... haven't seen that customer since..."
I love you.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, May 8, 2010 9:46:42pm |
I just looked at the cover for tonight. Here's how you can tell it was 1966:
That's a lot of fabric for the Scarlet Witch. On her, I mean, not the cape.
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Ojoe Sat, May 8, 2010 9:47:01pm |
re: #158 laZardo
Thank you for the compliment.
And now,
Good night all.
& Happy mother's day to you if u are on the east coast, too.
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 9:47:10pm |
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Racer X Sat, May 8, 2010 9:48:01pm |
re: #161 Walter L. Newton
You know how the cashiers all stand at the head of their check out aisle's when it's not too busy, waiting to service customers? Well, the other night, about 10:00 pm, I suggested we all work up a kick line.
"One... singular sensation... every little breath...
How about a Chinese fire drill during a busy rush. All the cashiers stop and run around the checkout line at the same time, then get back to the cash register like nothing happened.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 8, 2010 9:48:30pm |
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:48:37pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, May 8, 2010 9:48:58pm |
My sister just posted her son's prom photos. He and his best friend are wearing tuxes that are...
sky blue and electric orange. Shirts and everything. With top hats and canes in the same color.
I think this might just make up for the mountains of grief he had given her over the years. Maybe.
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b_sharp Sat, May 8, 2010 9:49:04pm |
re: #138 brookly red
/then why are so many people taking anti-depressants?
A small subsection of people are hogging all the ignorance.
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charlz Sat, May 8, 2010 9:49:12pm |
re: #156 reine.de.tout
I was also called a "fixture".
Not sure what thatwas supposed to mean.
He called you a drip!
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, May 8, 2010 9:49:33pm |
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 9:50:02pm |
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 9:50:06pm |
re: #171 EmmmieG
My sister just posted her son's prom photos. He and his best friend are wearing tuxes that are...
sky blue and electric orange. Shirts and everything. With top hats and canes in the same color.
I think this might just make up for the mountains of grief he had given her over the years. Maybe.
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 9:50:11pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, May 8, 2010 9:50:32pm |
re: #174 prairiefire
Plus, she has beefy thighs.
Back then, that wasn't beefy, that was normal.
Sigh.
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 9:50:37pm |
Gosh.
I'm out of here.
LGF and Maker's Mark and me just don't mix.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, May 8, 2010 9:51:06pm |
re: #179 Varek Raith
That's where they got it! Still, when your date shows up looking like this, you know you are going to have a fun time.
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freetoken Sat, May 8, 2010 9:51:10pm |
Put up a spin-off about Lawrence Taylor and his sex crime, in which a "source" says of Taylor:
The source added, "He wants a lot of girls. They don't have to be the most beautiful, but he's into quantity."
Heh, how American, quantity over quality.
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 9:51:32pm |
re: #172 b_sharp
A small subsection of people are hogging all the ignorance.
dude I don't think so but if you like trash your pet peeve this is the place to do it :)
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 8, 2010 9:51:33pm |
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UncleSam Sat, May 8, 2010 9:51:43pm |
re: #159 Mad Al-Jaffee
I loved it and had no problems getting through it. The Yiddish Policeman's Union was pretty good too but I thought K&C was much better.
If you loved Kavalier and Clay, you'll probably also love Soon I Will Be Invincible.
It's much faster paced and has a lot of humor, and is just way cooler.
I've read it twice, and there aren't a lot of books I enjoy that much.
Some friends who usually don't like sci-fi/comic book stuff also really enjoyed it.
I just couldn't slog through the turgid prose of K&C.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 8, 2010 9:51:53pm |
re: #168 Racer X
How about a Chinese fire drill during a busy rush. All the cashiers stop and run around the checkout line at the same time, then get back to the cash register like nothing happened.
There are all kinds of things I could see having fun with... and being fired for.
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 9:52:05pm |
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Bagua Sat, May 8, 2010 9:52:32pm |
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Sigma_x Sat, May 8, 2010 9:52:41pm |
re: #184 freetoken
Put up a spin-off about Lawrence Taylor and his sex crime, in which a "source" says of Taylor:
Heh, how American, quantity over quality.
I knew a girl that used to dance at the V.I.P. club on 21st st. in Manhattan, and L.T. came in one night and tried to talk her into blowing him for $200. She said no and he got pissed. Like, real pissed. Was asked to leave.
This was back in '96.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 8, 2010 9:53:58pm |
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b_sharp Sat, May 8, 2010 9:54:04pm |
re: #156 reine.de.tout
What sort of correction?
Someone a night or two ago tried to insult me by pointing out that his karma/comment ratio was 2 to 1, whereas mine was NOT, therefore -- he had the higher ground, or something.
I was also called a "fixture".
Not sure what thatwas supposed to mean.
Karma doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot. It really depends on who happens to on the thread at any given time, and for some reason, the political flavour of the thread swings back and forth.
Being a fixture just means you are well grounded.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, May 8, 2010 9:54:07pm |
re: #182 MandyManners
Gosh.
I'm out of here.
LGF and Maker's Mark and me just don't mix.
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 9:55:10pm |
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freetoken Sat, May 8, 2010 9:55:34pm |
re: #194 Sigma_x
$200? Wow, LT must be a real cheapskate...
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Varek Raith Sat, May 8, 2010 9:55:37pm |
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 9:55:54pm |
re: #158 laZardo
or you can adapt to (or at least tolerate) change...
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b_sharp Sat, May 8, 2010 9:56:17pm |
re: #163 Mad Al-Jaffee
I need to get to bed. Very busy (and productive) day and I'm expecting another tomorrow.
I think there is a relatively long string of tomorrows available, so you should get the next one.
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Sigma_x Sat, May 8, 2010 9:56:49pm |
re: #201 freetoken
$200? Wow, LT must be a real cheapskate...
Yeah, I suppose - this was a place where just to get into the private rooms would set you back $500 an hour. I think he'd already blown most of his money by then.
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Bagua Sat, May 8, 2010 9:57:20pm |
re: #194 Sigma_x
I knew a girl that used to dance at the V.I.P. club on 21st st. in Manhattan, and L.T. came in one night and tried to talk her into blowing him for $200. She said no and he got pissed. Like, real pissed. Was asked to leave.
This was back in '96.
Anything over $50 pisses me off. Different budget I suppose.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 9:57:48pm |
re: #162 negativ
Ah yes.
The customer is not always right.
He IS, however, always the customer.
(And unless you are running a gun shop, someone walking in with a gun in his hand has a very low probability of being an actual customer...)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, May 8, 2010 9:58:06pm |
Good night everyone. Long day today.
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 9:58:30pm |
re: #204 b_sharp
I think there is a relatively long string of tomorrows available, so you should get the next one.
What is today but yesterday's tomorrow?
/wisdom of mr. krabs
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palomino Sat, May 8, 2010 9:59:30pm |
Here's the latest hatchet job on Obama, filled with the kind of absurd smears that get people hurt.
You can read the first chapter online at Amazon. It's basically just rehashed info from the campaign carried to the extreme of guilt by association; no matter how far removed the association actually is from Obama, its most unsavory aspects are directly attributed to him.
The authors of the book clearly have no shame, going so far as to label Obama a "Manchurian president," as if her were a foreign interloper bent on bringing America to ruin. I'm afraid the authors and some of their teabag audience (which loves slobbering over this kind of raw red meat) actually may see political violence as a solution. It's currently #11 at Amazon. Not a promising sign with respect to the right returning to reality.
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Sigma_x Sat, May 8, 2010 9:59:38pm |
re: #206 Bagua
Anything over $50 pisses me off. Different budget I suppose.
Not for nothing, but I just can't even imagine paying for a blowjob. And if I were the single greatest linebacker in the history of football, I'd really never think to pay.
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 10:00:18pm |
re: #200 prairiefire
So, you pissed everybody off and then changed your avatar?
well you really can learn things from politicians ...
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:03:30pm |
hmm... it's only 10 PST... who's still awake out here?
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:03:35pm |
re: #210 palomino
Here's the latest hatchet job on Obama, filled with the kind of absurd smears that get people hurt.
You can read the first chapter online at Amazon. It's basically just rehashed info from the campaign carried to the extreme of guilt by association; no matter how far removed the association actually is from Obama, its most unsavory aspects are directly attributed to him.
The authors of the book clearly have no shame, going so far as to label Obama a "Manchurian president," as if her were a foreign interloper bent on bringing America to ruin. I'm afraid the authors and some of their teabag audience (which loves slobbering over this kind of raw red meat) actually may see political violence as a solution. It's currently #11 at Amazon. Not a promising sign with respect to the right returning to reality.
How to see President Obama as the Manchurian president:
1. Drink about 2 gallons of Jack Daniels
2. Smoke an ounce of sticky bud.
3. Drop 12 hits of acid.
4. Open door, place head in jamb and close door on head at least 13 times.
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:04:41pm |
re: #216 Gus 802
Kind of surprised Jerome Corsi didn't get to this first...
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, May 8, 2010 10:05:36pm |
re: #200 prairiefire
So, you pissed everybody off and then changed your avatar?
I don't know what you're talking about, but:
I desperately hope so.
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:07:21pm |
re: #217 JasonA
Kind of surprised Jerome Corsi didn't get to this first...
The book title in question or closing the door ones own head?
//I'm pretty sure he's done the latter.
/
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:08:18pm |
re: #219 Gus 802
The book title in question or closing the door ones own head?
//I'm pretty sure he's done the latter.
/
Why the sarc tags? :P
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palomino Sat, May 8, 2010 10:08:33pm |
re: #216 Gus 802
How to see President Obama as the Manchurian president:
1. Drink about 2 gallons of Jack Daniels
2. Smoke an ounce of sticky bud.
3. Drop 12 hits of acid.
4. Open door, place head in jamb and close door on head at least 13 times.
Thing is, I've had nights where I did 3 of those 4 things (in smaller quantities, of course) but I never saw Obama as a Manchurian prez. Nor did I hallucinate a Kenyan birth certificate.
Clearly Obama, by his mere presence, has made more people insane than any president since Lincoln.
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:10:13pm |
re: #220 JasonA
Why the sarc tags? :P
True. If you look closely at Corsi's temples you can see the imprinted word Schlage (backwards).
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b_sharp Sat, May 8, 2010 10:10:37pm |
'night.
I am a poor man. My sight is poor. My legs are old and bent, and--
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:11:09pm |
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:11:48pm |
re: #221 palomino
Thing is, I've had nights where I did 3 of those 4 things (in smaller quantities, of course) but I never saw Obama as a Manchurian prez. Nor did I hallucinate a Kenyan birth certificate.
Clearly Obama, by his mere presence, has made more people insane than any president since Lincoln.
I sometimes try to figure it all out to no end. I don't mind a loyal opposition but I've never seen anything like this before.
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:12:43pm |
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:14:00pm |
re: #225 Gus 802
I sometimes try to figure it all out to no end. I don't mind a loyal opposition but I've never seen anything like this before.
well for 8 years it seemed to me like the Democrats would rather act contrary to the best interest of the country rather than be caught dead cooperating with the Eeevil George W.
Apparently the Republicans have now been replaced with the same Pod People.
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:14:07pm |
re: #221 palomino
For extra bonus fun read those comments. Damn...
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:14:32pm |
re: #216 Gus 802
How to see President Obama as the Manchurian president:
1. Drink about 2 gallons of Jack Daniels
2. Smoke an ounce of sticky bud.
3. Drop 12 hits of acid.
4. Open door, place head in jamb and close door on head at least 13 times.
From Amazon:
Highlights of The Manchurian President:
*Obama's mysterious college years unearthed
He took classes, and chased after young women. Betcha anything!
*Shocking new details of Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers and other Weathermen terrorists
(Kee-rist.)
*Obama's ties to Islam and black liberation theology
(Please note, these are not the same thing, and in fact, one is often sort of seen as excluding the other.)
*Startling facts about Obama's eligibility to serve as president
(He's eligible. Say, what?)
*Obama's membership in a socialist party probed
(He never belonged to one, but now we've got you good and scared.)
*How Obama's "hope," "change" slogans stem from communist activism
(Well-known fact: no non-commie has ever used the word 'hope' in a political slogan. Or called for change.)
*Radical socalists involved in drafting stimulus bill, ObamaCare
(But since we think Olympia Snowe is a radical socialist, this is less scary than it sounds.)
*Communists, socialists and other radicals on team Obama, including an expose on Obama's top guns in the White House
(Obama has guns in the White House? I'd think you'd be in favor.)
*Never-before-revealed depth of Obama's relationship with ACORN
(He got to third base.)
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:14:47pm |
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lostlakehiker Sat, May 8, 2010 10:14:58pm |
re: #97 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
[Video]Nice song about a man feeling helpless while his wife gives birth.
It's a buzzkill, but I'm going to bed... so listen, it ends happy.
Not like Live's "Lightening Crashes" or anything...
I heart Kate Bush.
That's not for me. I was there in the room, giving moral support. There. For. Her.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:15:20pm |
re: #225 Gus 802
I sometimes try to figure it all out to no end. I don't mind a loyal opposition but I've never seen anything like this before.
It's sort of interesting, when it isn't terrifying.
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:18:51pm |
re: #227 Querent
well for 8 years it seemed to me like the Democrats would rather act contrary to the best interest of the country rather than be caught dead cooperating with the Eeevil George W.
Apparently the Republicans have now been replaced with the same Pod People.
I should probably try and reflect on that more. I know I was pretty frustrated with what I saw during Bush's term. What bugged me the most back then was the 911 truthers, the martial law talk, Bush as a fascist, etc. Oddly enough Alex Jones is still involved only with a new president.
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:20:05pm |
re: #234 Gus 802
I should probably try and reflect on that more. I know I was pretty frustrated with what I saw during Bush's term. What bugged me the most back then was the 911 truthers, the martial law talk, Bush as a fascist, etc. Oddly enough Alex Jones is still involved only with a new president.
Frustrated with some of the whacky anti-Bush rhetoric that is. Not with Bush himself.
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 10:20:08pm |
re: #234 Gus 802
What bugged me the most was nobody listening to me when I said what a bug out idiot President Bush was.
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lostlakehiker Sat, May 8, 2010 10:20:57pm |
re: #149 Sigma_x
I started going short a little over a week ago. I'm not gonna say I saw this coming to the extent that it came; but I knew we were in for a correction of some sort.
The thing is now is that we might get a drop in the market that makes the one in '08/'09 look like a walk in the park.
The government is printing money, and electronic money, at a frantic pace. How can prices go down, big time, when the money supply is exploding?
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:21:00pm |
re: #227 Querent
well for 8 years it seemed to me like the Democrats would rather act contrary to the best interest of the country rather than be caught dead cooperating with the Eeevil George W.
Apparently the Republicans have now been replaced with the same Pod People.
How do you figure? Didn't Bush get just about everything he wanted, except for maybe (praise Jeebus) privatized Social Security?
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:21:19pm |
re: #235 Gus 802
Frustrated with some of the whacky anti-Bush rhetoric that is. Not with Bush himself.
i remember telling one of my more liberal relatives that i'd voted Bush in '04.
Then i watched her get the vapors.
Apparently women aren't allowed to vote for Republicans...
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:22:08pm |
People attacked Bush, but, maybe I'm wrong, I don't recall this level of total effing derangement coming out in print. I mean, what book would be the Bush equivalent of this thing?
I realize that attacks on the other guy often seem milder, but seriously...
C'mon, refresh my memory.
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 10:23:03pm |
re: #239 Querent
i remember telling one of my more liberal relatives that i'd voted Bush in '04.
Then i watched her get the vapors.
Apparently women aren't allowed to vote for Republicans...
/no one is allowed to vote for Republicans! it is the forbidden party!
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:23:35pm |
re: #240 SanFranciscoZionist
People attacked Bush, but, maybe I'm wrong, I don't recall this level of total effing derangement coming out in print. I mean, what book would be the Bush equivalent of this thing?
I realize that attacks on the other guy often seem milder, but seriously...
C'mon, refresh my memory.
But but but, what about that movie about his assassination?!?!?!?!?
(Made by British people...)
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:23:42pm |
re: #239 Querent
i remember telling one of my more liberal relatives that i'd voted Bush in '04.
Then i watched her get the vapors.
Apparently women aren't allowed to vote for Republicans...
Really? I never saw that point in being upset with how your friends or family voted. Doesn't matter how they vote since in the end they're free to choose. I think it shows a level of respect to grant them that freedom and not make a big deal about it.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:24:07pm |
re: #238 JasonA
How do you figure? Didn't Bush get just about everything he wanted, except for maybe (praise Jeebus) privatized Social Security?
i figure that they sure put up a stink about it first.
Might not have been all Democratic Congresscritters, but certainly most of the visible Democratic Party Activists
(MoveOn, i'm looking at all the crap from you in my mailbox ever since you got Clinton off the hook and then realized the PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWAHS you had with this ginormous voter mailing list...)
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:24:12pm |
re: #242 JasonA
But but but, what about that movie about his assassination?!?!?!?!?
(Made by British people...)
And that was pretty trashy, yes.
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 10:25:09pm |
I apologize for my behavior here tonight. More than a bit of TMI.
Sweet dreams, Lizards!
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 10:25:10pm |
re: #242 JasonA
But but but, what about that movie about his assassination?!?!?!?!?
(Made by British people...)
Come to think about it, that could just as well be applied to the current administration as a sort of "Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it" warning for the teabaggers...
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:26:17pm |
re: #243 Gus 802
Really? I never saw that point in being upset with how your friends or family voted. Doesn't matter how they vote since in the end they're free to choose. I think it shows a level of respect to grant them that freedom and not make a big deal about it.
that's what i think.
And generally, since i'm the one who's usually slowest to formulate a good argument, i stay out of it and let them argue.
(then i pick over the bones for the juicy marrow they forgot. kind of like i do on LGF.)
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 10:26:51pm |
re: #244 Querent
Oh yeah? The MoveOn that whipped the republicans' in 2006 and 2008? That successful Democratic drive the vote operation?
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:28:00pm |
re: #240 SanFranciscoZionist
People attacked Bush, but, maybe I'm wrong, I don't recall this level of total effing derangement coming out in print. I mean, what book would be the Bush equivalent of this thing?
I realize that attacks on the other guy often seem milder, but seriously...
C'mon, refresh my memory.
It was harder to find and not as mainstream. I would typically find it at DU or Indymedia websites. There was the ever present Infowars and Alex Jones. DU has calmed down a lot but I'll still go to some Indymedia pages and shake my head. You know, like the folks that protested the Israeli GLBT film festival?
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:28:23pm |
re: #249 prairiefire
Oh yeah? The MoveOn that whipped the republicans' in 2006 and 2008? That successful Democratic drive the vote operation?
Meh. As a member of the sinister Commie-Nazi Left I completely understand why some people don't like MoveOn.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:28:25pm |
re: #249 prairiefire
Oh yeah? The MoveOn that whipped the republicans' in 2006 and 2008? That successful Democratic drive the vote operation?
Oh yeah, that one!
I take it you support them, then.
(Me, i just kept receiving the e-mails -- always good to know what folks are doing...)
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Sigma_x Sat, May 8, 2010 10:28:30pm |
re: #237 lostlakehiker
The government is printing money, and electronic money, at a frantic pace. How can prices go down, big time, when the money supply is exploding?
Simple - sellers outweighing buyers by a wide margin.
Picture someone yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater (one that has a reputation as a death trap) and everyone trying to cram out of the single exit door at once, and you'll start to have an idea of the situation.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:28:59pm |
I'm looking at Amazon now. I mean, there are a lot of books attacking Bush's presidency, especially the decision to go into Iraq, and some of them are fairly mean. But there seems to me to be a whole new cottage industry is totally crazy books about Obama.
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Bagua Sat, May 8, 2010 10:29:40pm |
re: #246 MandyManners
I apologize for my behavior here tonight. More than a bit of TMI.
Sweet dreams, Lizards!
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austin_blue Sat, May 8, 2010 10:30:09pm |
Good evening Lizards!
What have we learned today?
A: If you are a moderate/right Senator from Utah, you are going to get your ass kicked from the right.
B: If you are looking for a quick and easy engineering fix for a blowout from a well in 5,000 feet of water in the Gulf of Mexico, you will encounter significant problems.
Outside of that, it was a lovely cool day in Austin (yay!) and Deborah Goldstein's birthday party was a huge success.
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 10:30:13pm |
re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm looking at Amazon now. I mean, there are a lot of books attacking Bush's presidency, especially the decision to go into Iraq, and some of them are fairly mean. But there seems to me to be a whole new cottage industry is totally crazy books about Obama.
same shit different day...
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:30:23pm |
re: #251 JasonA
Meh. As a member of the sinister Commie-Nazi Left I completely understand why some people don't like MoveOn.
It was the Petraeus ad that did it.
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 10:30:36pm |
re: #251 JasonA
Fuckin' A. they were the only "established' lefty org. fighting the righties in 2004. The Democrats have had too many wimps. "Tom, I'm looking at you."
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:31:29pm |
I think the Right's biggest problem with Obama is that there isn't much there from which to craft quality comedy. Bush on the other hand... well he did the work for us.
"Childrens do learn." - words uttered from the mouth of an American President.
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:31:45pm |
re: #250 Gus 802
It was harder to find and not as mainstream. I would typically find it at DU or Indymedia websites. There was the ever present Infowars and Alex Jones. DU has calmed down a lot but I'll still go to some Indymedia pages and shake my head. You know, like the folks that protested the Israeli GLBT film festival?
Oh, I know Indymedia of old. I do agree there was some total insanity out there about Bush.
But did a book accusing him of totally crazy shit ever make it to #12 on Amazon's bestseller all categories list?
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:31:48pm |
And in an odd turn of events some on the right are now turning against Petraeus.
Humans.
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:33:16pm |
re: #262 Gus 802
And in an odd turn of events some on the right are now turning against Petraeus.
Humans.
Well, if he ain't gonna side against Northern aggression.../
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:33:54pm |
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 10:34:33pm |
re: #260 JasonA
I think the Right's biggest problem with Obama is that there isn't much there from which to craft quality comedy. Bush on the other hand... well he did the work for us.
"Childrens do learn." - words uttered from the mouth of an American President.
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
your right, there is nothing even remotely humorous about what is going on these days... OK I can't blame it all on Obama, but these are not laughing times.
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:35:36pm |
re: #261 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, I know Indymedia of old. I do agree there was some total insanity out there about Bush.
But did a book accusing him of totally crazy shit ever make it to #12 on Amazon's bestseller all categories list?
I agree. Most of it was about the Iraq war. It wasn't so much about other issues like abortion because Roe v. Wade never budged. A lot of people that opposed the Iraq War supported the war in Afghanistan. One such person was Neil Young who stated so publicly on several occasions.
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 10:36:21pm |
re: #264 SanFranciscoZionist
So, you'd disagree with me about this?
no I agreed, same shit... it is easy to whip up a book slamming something. Selling it is another story...
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:36:29pm |
re: #265 brookly red
your right, there is nothing even remotely humorous about what is going on these days... OK I can't blame it all on Obama, but these are not laughing times.
Oh stop. I'm talking about the man, not our current circumstances. Even SNL, which usually does a good job having fun with presidents, can't nail Obama down.
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 10:37:00pm |
I blame the internet for the degeneration of public discourse.
/ O:
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:37:42pm |
re: #269 laZardo
I blame the internet for the degeneration of public discourse.
/ O:
Before the internet we had to pay for porn.
True story.
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 10:38:04pm |
re: #268 JasonA
Oh stop. I'm talking about the man, not our current circumstances. Even SNL, which usually does a good job having fun with presidents, can't nail Obama down.
of course they could if they wanted to...
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 10:39:12pm |
re: #271 brookly red
of course they could if they wanted to...
Oh tell us, great sultan, how would they do this.
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:39:17pm |
re: #271 brookly red
of course they could if they wanted to...
Bullshit. They started with Bill Clinton from day one (or so).
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:39:20pm |
re: #258 Gus 802
It was the Petraeus ad that did it.
Yes and no. There were a lot of people who didn't like them before that.
And frankly, now that Commentary is coming out with articles wondering if Petraeus is responsible for Obama's coolth to Israel...wonder what they said about MoveOn at the time.
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:39:34pm |
re: #263 JasonA
Well, if he ain't gonna side against Northern aggression.../
Petraeus did a fabulous job in Iraq. Same with Gates. It almost happened overnight and after the 2006 election. Rumsfeld hit the road and in came Gates and within months things started to turn around. One of the reasons why Gates is still around.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:40:19pm |
re: #260 JasonA
I think the Right's biggest problem with Obama is that there isn't much there from which to craft quality comedy. Bush on the other hand... well he did the work for us.
"Childrens do learn." - words uttered from the mouth of an American President.
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
Bush was sort of endearing, though, with the gaffes. My mother still refers to 'putting food on your family'.
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:40:42pm |
re: #260 JasonA
"Childrens do learn." - words uttered from the mouth of an American President.
Since I brought this up, enjoy a classic Daily Show clip. It's a quickie, just watch it:
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 10:40:43pm |
re: #275 Gus 802
Who was the Commander in Chief who made the choice for war time generals?
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:41:52pm |
re: #274 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes and no. There were a lot of people who didn't like them before that.
And frankly, now that Commentary is coming out with articles wondering if Petraeus is responsible for Obama's coolth to Israel...wonder what they said about MoveOn at the time.
Oh, I guess I'd have to look into that. I meant that the thing that stands out the most or what caused MoveOn to get a lot of bad press or bad feelings from the right was the Petraeus ad in the New York Times. I don't think many people checked the backgrounder on him.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:42:15pm |
re: #258 Gus 802
It was the Petraeus ad that did it.
just one of the things that made me shake my head.
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:42:28pm |
re: #278 prairiefire
Who was the Commander in Chief who made the choice for war time generals?
Dick Cheney... no wait, I mean George Bush. ;)
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:43:54pm |
re: #276 SanFranciscoZionist
Bush was sort of endearing, though, with the gaffes. My mother still refers to 'putting food on your family'.
"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."
If only the Japanese, whales, and dolphins could find some middle ground...
Sorry, didn't mean to make this into a ha-ha George Bush, thread. I'll stop now.
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brookly red Sat, May 8, 2010 10:43:54pm |
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 10:44:16pm |
re: #281 Gus 802
Dick Cheney... no wait, I mean George Bush. ;)
At least Dick Cheney was a badassmofo that would "take you out hunting" if you didn't like him. :/
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 10:44:35pm |
Topic at the feast tonight: the potential nuking of Israel and the utter destruction of Tehran.
We're a horsey bunch, a farm bunch, a family bunch.
Amazing.
Buncha' dumb-fucks from the fly-over states who attend Tea Parties.
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swamprat Sat, May 8, 2010 10:45:16pm |
re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm looking at Amazon now. I mean, there are a lot of books attacking Bush's presidency, especially the decision to go into Iraq, and some of them are fairly mean. But there seems to me to be a whole new cottage industry is totally crazy books about Obama.
The tripe in the book is not unusual. Somebody actually publishing that amalgamation of lies, coincidences,facts taken out of context, unsubstantiated rumors, and guilt by association....now that is new.
Disclaimer; I have not read the book in question, but based on the positive review alone, it is a real piece of junk. If there is real justified criticism in there, I would be very surprised.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:45:17pm |
re: #285 MandyManners
wow.
BTW Mandy i'm glad to see you're still around.
You lend a sense of continuity for me.
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 10:45:57pm |
re: #287 Querent
wow.
BTW Mandy i'm glad to see you're still around.
You lend a sense of continuity for me.
How so?
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 10:45:58pm |
re: #287 Querent
wow.
BTW Mandy i'm glad to see you're still around.
You lend a sense of continuity for me.
The Rage of Mandy is a time-honored LGF tradition. O:
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 10:46:35pm |
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freetoken Sat, May 8, 2010 10:46:55pm |
re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist
But there seems to me to be a whole new cottage industry is totally crazy books about Obama.
The "Cottage of Crazy" - I like that.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:47:10pm |
re: #286 swamprat
The tripe in the book is not unusual. Somebody actually publishing that amalgamation of lies, coincidences,facts taken out of context, unsubstantiated rumors, and guilt by association...now that is new.
Disclaimer; I have not read the book in question, but based on the positive review alone, it is a real piece of junk. If there is real justified criticism in there, I would be very surprised.
One of the authors is the editor of WND.
The publisher is "WND Books".
Getting it into the top sellers on Amazon--now that is disturbing.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:47:14pm |
re: #288 MandyManners
basically because you're still here, while a whole legion of familiar names have vanished into the ether.
(i was away from LGF for 8 months after getting laid off, and the underground lizard cave population had really changed when i got back!)
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 10:47:37pm |
re: #285 MandyManners
Topic at the feast tonight: the potential nuking of Israel and the utter destruction of Tehran.
We're a horsey bunch, a farm bunch, a family bunch.
Amazing.
Buncha' dumb-fucks from the fly-over states who attend Tea Parties.
Of course they attend tea parties. They are disgruntled George W. Bush voters.
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:48:03pm |
re: #292 SanFranciscoZionist
One of the authors is the editor of WND.
The publisher is "WND Books".
Getting it into the top sellers on Amazon--now that is disturbing.
Always have to look at the "bulk sales" with things like this, but still... yeah, kind of scary.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:48:11pm |
re: #292 SanFranciscoZionist
One of the authors is the editor of WND.
The publisher is "WND Books".
Getting it into the top sellers on Amazon--now that is disturbing.
cue Gilbert Gottfried as Iago the Parrot -- "WHY am I NOT surprised..."
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:48:25pm |
re: #286 swamprat
The tripe in the book is not unusual. Somebody actually publishing that amalgamation of lies, coincidences,facts taken out of context, unsubstantiated rumors, and guilt by association...now that is new.
Disclaimer; I have not read the book in question, but based on the positive review alone, it is a real piece of junk. If there is real justified criticism in there, I would be very surprised.
I did a quick review before at Amazon. It's a lot of rehash. Same old topics from the campaign trail. Everyone was looking for a smoking gun in 2008 and no one ever found it then and they won't find it now.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:49:25pm |
re: #297 Gus 802
I did a quick review before at Amazon. It's a lot of rehash. Same old topics from the campaign trail. Everyone was looking for a smoking gun in 2008 and no one ever found it then and they won't find it now.
Cue W looking under a chair, riffing on looking for those WMD...
(Cue the french guys in History of the World Part One, "Keep searching, you'll find it...")
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:49:42pm |
re: #297 Gus 802
I did a quick review before at Amazon. It's a lot of rehash. Same old topics from the campaign trail. Everyone was looking for a smoking gun in 2008 and no one ever found it then and they won't find it now.
Every time I log on to the internet I clench my armrests, terrified that they finally released the "Whitey Tape."
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Nimed Sat, May 8, 2010 10:50:10pm |
re: #261 SanFranciscoZionist
re: #260 JasonA
Whatever it is, it's the same reason that places Liberal Fascism, Liberty and Tyranny, and many Michelle Malkin's, Glenn Beck's and Ann Coulter's books #1 Amazon and NYT best-sellers.
I can't remember an equivalent book that had the same success on the Left. The closest ones were probably Gore's Assault on Reason and Greenwald's A Tragic Legacy, but these aren't exactly liberal red meat screeds. The strict equivalent would probably be Why We're Liberals, which didn't sell very well.
There's a culture of resentment on today's conservative Right (but not libertarian Right) that has no equivalent on the Left, period.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, May 8, 2010 10:50:15pm |
re: #156 reine.de.tout
What sort of correction?
Someone a night or two ago tried to insult me by pointing out that his karma/comment ratio was 2 to 1, whereas mine was NOT, therefore -- he had the higher ground, or something.
I was also called a "fixture".
Not sure what thatwas supposed to mean.
You're one of my moral guideposts.
Nice lady. With principles, that you LIVE.
And, just very pleasant to be around.
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 10:51:05pm |
re: #293 Querent
basically because you're still here, while a whole legion of familiar names have vanished into the ether.
(i was away from LGF for 8 months after getting laid off, and the underground lizard cave population had really changed when i got back!)
Oh, love. I understand.
Gird your loins.
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:51:15pm |
re: #300 Nimed
re: #260 JasonA
Whatever it is, it's the same reason that places Liberal Fascism, Liberty and Tyranny, and many Michelle Malkin's, Glenn Beck's and Ann Coulter's books #1 Amazon and NYT best-sellers.
I can't remember an equivalent book that had the same success on the Left. The closest ones were probably Gore's Assault on Reason and Greenwald's A Tragic Legacy, but these aren't exactly liberal red meat screeds. The strict equivalent would probably be Why We're Liberals, which didn't sell very well.
There's a culture of resentment on today's conservative Right (but not libertarian Right) that has no equivalent on the Left, period.
I always loved Al Franken's books. He did his homework.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:51:42pm |
re: #299 JasonA
Every time I log on to the internet I clench my armrests, terrified that they finally released the "Whitey Tape."
I wanna see that tape! They promised me Michelle Obama on tape, talking about Whitey! They never delivered!!!
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:51:48pm |
re: #299 JasonA
Every time I log on to the internet I clench my armrests, terrified that they finally released the "Whitey Tape."
Yep. There was that and the infamous video tape that the LA Times supposedly has (or has) in possession.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:52:23pm |
re: #300 Nimed
re: #260 JasonA
Whatever it is, it's the same reason that places Liberal Fascism, Liberty and Tyranny, and many Michelle Malkin's, Glenn Beck's and Ann Coulter's books #1 Amazon and NYT best-sellers.
I can't remember an equivalent book that had the same success on the Left. The closest ones were probably Gore's Assault on Reason and Greenwald's A Tragic Legacy, but these aren't exactly liberal red meat screeds. The strict equivalent would probably be Why We're Liberals, which didn't sell very well.
There's a culture of resentment on today's conservative Right (but not libertarian Right) that has no equivalent on the Left, period.
I thought we were supposed to be the ones that played victim politics all the time.
But the student has truly become the master.
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:52:25pm |
re: #305 Gus 802
Yep. There was that and the infamous video tape that the LA Times supposedly
hashad (or has) in possession.
Had (or has)... PIMF
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:52:33pm |
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:52:50pm |
re: #302 MandyManners
Oh, love. I understand.
Gird your loins.
done that. remember from many moons ago, i once offered a fellow Lizard some chainmail protective gear.
(i wouldn't dare get between certain Lizards w/o it!)
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:53:07pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:53:28pm |
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 10:53:30pm |
re: #299 JasonA
That is supposedly a rumor based on a speech Michelle gave were she repeatedly stated "Why did he.....?" during her speech. That was changed by "telephone" to "whitey".
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 10:53:41pm |
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 10:53:59pm |
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Nimed Sat, May 8, 2010 10:54:10pm |
re: #303 JasonA
I always loved Al Franken's books. He did his homework.
How could I forget! I've only read Lies..., and yeah, that's does come closer to an equivalent.
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MandyManners Sat, May 8, 2010 10:54:11pm |
re: #294 prairiefire
Of course they attend tea parties. They are disgruntled George W. Bush voters.
Not at all.
They're sick and fucking tired of being taxed beyond reason.
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:54:27pm |
re: #309 Querent
done that. remember from many moons ago, i once offered a fellow Lizard some chainmail protective gear.
(i wouldn't dare get between certain Lizards w/o it!)
I prefer to don heavy platemail whenever Israel/Palestine discussions come up... Though this place isn't as hostile as Kos can get when those things come up.
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:55:17pm |
re: #314 Gus 802
I loved that show. :(
I think I might have a man-crush on Damian Lewis. He's awesome in anything he does.
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 10:55:30pm |
re: #316 MandyManners
Taxes under President Obama are lower.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:55:59pm |
re: #317 JasonA
I prefer to don heavy platemail whenever Israel/Palestine discussions come up... Though this place isn't as hostile as Kos can get when those things come up.
Hey, if i could make platemail, i wouldn't be unemployed...
(buckles on Viking helmet, just in case!)
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 10:57:06pm |
"This is half of your mother's breast plate. I have the other half. It keeps her close."
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:57:12pm |
re: #318 JasonA
I think I might have a man-crush on Damian Lewis. He's awesome in anything he does.
Thank you for sharing...
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:57:18pm |
re: #320 prairiefire
Taxes under President Obama are lower.
Please don't ruin their fragile memes. They're all they have.
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 10:57:48pm |
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swamprat Sat, May 8, 2010 10:57:56pm |
re: #272 prairiefire
Chain-smoking black president with a private basket court, a crazy mother in law, a heavy-handed (Emanual) assistant, and two normal daughters who sat in a looney bin church, and were completely unaffected by it?
Hell, that's a sit-com!
Tall, angular man; well educated, who is president of a country with one of the highest evolution denial rates in the world?
Young, urban, presidential couple who come to washington and start...Farming?
No. There is no comedic material there at all.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 10:58:59pm |
re: #325 JasonA
Welcome to LGF after dark. :P
Come to the Dark Side -- we have cookies.
(note on a box of girl scout cookies i gave my cousin for a birthday present. Inside was the One Ring™, and, of course, cookies.)
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 11:00:01pm |
re: #327 Querent
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 11:00:05pm |
re: #326 swamprat
and if there was, it'd be offensive to make jokes about it.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 11:00:28pm |
re: #328 JasonA
yes, they WERE in fact made with real Girl Scouts.
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swamprat Sat, May 8, 2010 11:00:37pm |
re: #316 MandyManners
Not at all.
They're sick and fucking tired of being taxed beyond reason.
No that is just not true.
Not yet, anyway.
We will see how this shakes out.
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 11:01:18pm |
re: #326 swamprat
Chain-smoking black president with a private basket court, a crazy mother in law, a heavy-handed (Emanual) assistant, and two normal daughters who sat in a looney bin church, and were completely unaffected by it?
Hell, that's a sit-com!
Tall, angular man; well educated, who is president of a country with one of the highest evolution denial rates in the world?
Young, urban, presidential couple who come to washington and start...Farming?No. There is no comedic material there at all.
It's like the Bundy family!
Seriously though. If you look back at all of the former presidents families and sometimes the individual presidents lives you'll find some hair raising stuff from time to time. Some rather quirky stuff but really it's not unlike our own families and even some of the things we ourselves have done in the past.
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 11:01:33pm |
re: #326 swamprat
Chain-smoking black president with a private basket court, a crazy mother in law, a heavy-handed (Emanual) assistant, and two normal daughters who sat in a looney bin church, and were completely unaffected by it?
Hell, that's a sit-com!
Tall, angular man; well educated, who is president of a country with one of the highest evolution denial rates in the world?
Young, urban, presidential couple who come to washington and start...Farming?No. There is no comedic material there at all.
Crazy! He's all that and more...
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 11:04:39pm |
wonder what happened to that freshly-hatched Objectionist we had on the other night.
(bet he wasn't too thrilled with my categorization of Atlas Shrugged (the book not the blog) as a cerebral colon cleanser...)
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 11:06:40pm |
Heck. If given the choice between some of these Tea Party politicians being in the White House or seeing George Bush back in the White House who would you choose? Let's say you were making a deal with the devil. Would you rather see Bush there or Sarah Palin? Or more realistically would you rather see Jeb Bush or Sarah Palin in the White House?
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 11:07:48pm |
re: #335 Gus 802
Hmm... Cake or Death, and you've run out of Cake.
I'll have the Chickenhawk, please...
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 11:07:54pm |
re: #335 Gus 802
Heck. If given the choice between some of these Tea Party politicians being in the White House or seeing George Bush back in the White House who would you choose? Let's say you were making a deal with the devil. Would you rather see Bush there or Sarah Palin? Or more realistically would you rather see Jeb Bush or Sarah Palin in the White House?
Shit, I'll drive down to Houston and give him a ride to DC myself if those are my choices.
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 11:08:12pm |
re: #326 swamprat
Chain-smoking black president with a private basket court, a crazy mother in law, a heavy-handed (Emanual) assistant, and two normal daughters who sat in a looney bin church, and were completely unaffected by it?
Hell, that's a sit-com!
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Nimed Sat, May 8, 2010 11:08:34pm |
re: #335 Gus 802
Heck. If given the choice between some of these Tea Party politicians being in the White House or seeing George Bush back in the White House who would you choose? Let's say you were making a deal with the devil. Would you rather see Bush there or Sarah Palin? Or more realistically would you rather see Jeb Bush or Sarah Palin in the White House?
No real dilemma. Brother Bush, hands down.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 11:08:35pm |
re: #337 JasonA
Shit, I'll drive down to Houston and give him a ride to DC myself if those are my choices.
i'll chip in for your gas money.
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swamprat Sat, May 8, 2010 11:09:32pm |
re: #332 Gus 802
They say he is like Reagan....fail.
But he moves like every caricature of Lincoln I have ever seen.
Naive like the early Clintons. Politics like Carter. Smokes like Roosevelt.
He is EveryPresident.
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Nimed Sat, May 8, 2010 11:09:51pm |
re: #337 JasonA
Shit, I'll drive down to Houston and give him a ride to DC myself if those are my choices.
Now, Sarah Palin or Ron Paul...
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 11:10:20pm |
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 11:11:44pm |
re: #335 Gus 802
Heck. If given the choice between some of these Tea Party politicians being in the White House or seeing George Bush back in the White House who would you choose? Let's say you were making a deal with the devil. Would you rather see Bush there or Sarah Palin? Or more realistically would you rather see Jeb Bush or Sarah Palin in the White House?
"One of them you hate with all your guts, but you can stand him because he has principles. The other is not above anything dirty to get themselves into power. And which one do they pick?
Stupid...stupid..."
/not accurate transcription of Spider Jerusalem.
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 11:12:09pm |
re: #342 Nimed
Now, Sarah Palin or Ron Paul...
Hmmm. That's a tough one right there. I actually think, you ready for this? Palin would be better than Ron Paul. Paul's a whacko
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 11:12:22pm |
re: #335 Gus 802
Heck. If given the choice between some of these Tea Party politicians being in the White House or seeing George Bush back in the White House who would you choose? Let's say you were making a deal with the devil. Would you rather see Bush there or Sarah Palin? Or more realistically would you rather see Jeb Bush or Sarah Palin in the White House?
Either Bush wins, hands down.
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prairiefire Sat, May 8, 2010 11:13:05pm |
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Mocking Jay Sat, May 8, 2010 11:13:34pm |
re: #346 Gus 802
Hmmm. That's a tough one right there. I actually think, you ready for this? Palin would be better than Ron Paul. Paul's a whacko
Yeah, but he's well versed in foreign relations. Texas is right next to Mexico...
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 11:13:45pm |
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 11:16:00pm |
re: #349 JasonA
Yeah, but he's well versed in foreign relations. Texas is right next to Mexico...
"Mr. Paul. What kind of books do you like to read? For instance, what are you reading now? Any particular book or magazines?"
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Nimed Sat, May 8, 2010 11:16:50pm |
re: #346 Gus 802
Hmmm. That's a tough one right there. I actually think, you ready for this? Palin would be better than Ron Paul. Paul's a whacko
Hm... I don't know. Paul would try to end the Fed, the FDA and pretty much all government agencies.
But, if you remember, Sarah Palin would get us into a war with Russia over Georgia. And the Presidency is a much more powerful office in foreign affairs.
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 11:18:13pm |
re: #352 Nimed
Hm... I don't know. Paul would try to end the Fed, the FDA and pretty much all government agencies.
But, if you remember, Sarah Palin would get us into a war with Russia over Georgia. And the Presidency is a much more powerful office in foreign affairs.
OK, move to Canada!
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Nimed Sat, May 8, 2010 11:18:26pm |
re: #350 SanFranciscoZionist
I make aliyah.
That would be a good move. Palin is definitely supportive of Israel.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, May 8, 2010 11:18:41pm |
Back... How is everyone?
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Nimed Sat, May 8, 2010 11:19:36pm |
re: #356 ludwigvanquixote
Back... How is everyone?
Trying to decide between Palin and Paul as the next President. Your pick?
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Gus Sat, May 8, 2010 11:19:55pm |
re: #356 ludwigvanquixote
Back... How is everyone?
Playing truth or dare. The presidential election version.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, May 8, 2010 11:22:43pm |
re: #355 Nimed
That would be a good move. Palin is definitely supportive of Israel.
If she could find it on a map, and no, no American president is all that supportive of Israel if they are from the oil patch.
The Dems want to build coalitions to contain Iran, and the Arabs see this as leverage against Israel. HOwever, teh Dems also need to beg to keep the oil flowing. The Dems are going to make things more close with the Arab on the street.
The GOP simply needs to beg to keep the oil flowing. Understand it is not about American oil, or American oil markets, it is about a global market, and even if we drilled all of coastal reserves, it would only make a small dent. The GOP is going with the sheik in his palace.
The only real answer is to get off of oil.
Also, honestly, Israel gets wiped out early as a climate loser. So Palin policies would guarantee the destruction of Israel.
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laZardo Sat, May 8, 2010 11:23:39pm |
re: #358 Nimed
Trying to decide between Palin and Paul as the next President. Your pick?
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, May 8, 2010 11:24:01pm |
re: #358 Nimed
Trying to decide between Palin and Paul as the next President. Your pick?
Is flying to New Zealand an option.
I honestly do not know which would be worse.
In the end it would not matter. If they win, AGW destroys both Israel and America.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 11:26:26pm |
re: #364 ludwigvanquixote
Is flying to New Zealand an option.
Only if you take all those flighty movie stars who threatened to leave the US with you.
You can take them packaged in giant pet transport cages in the cargo hold, but you'll have to take them.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, May 8, 2010 11:28:12pm |
In fact, to those who know anything about Israel, consider how dependent the country is on rains and the rainy season. Once those rains are disrupted and heat spikes up to 110 degrees for prolonged periods in the summer, what happens.
Couple that to loosing large portions of the coast - of a nation that is mostly coast and you get the picture.
The only "good" news is that the Arabs in the Gaza would feel the pinch first and hardest and surely attack as they fled inland.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 11:30:30pm |
re: #366 ludwigvanquixote
why do i get the feeling that if Israel built a slew of new desalinization plants in anticipation of such an emergency, the Arabs would then accuse them of stealing the Palestinians' rightful seawater?
(Arggghhh...)
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 11:31:36pm |
re: #367 Querent
why do i get the feeling that if Israel built a slew of new desalinization plants in anticipation of such an emergency, the Arabs would then accuse them of stealing the Palestinians' rightful seawater?
(Arggghhh...)
They would. Check out the 'Stolen Beauty' campaign against Ahava. The Israelis are taking minerals from the Dead Sea, which the Palestinians are being blocked from!!!!!
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Nimed Sat, May 8, 2010 11:32:05pm |
re: #366 ludwigvanquixote
In fact, to those who know anything about Israel, consider how dependent the country is on rains and the rainy season. Once those rains are disrupted and heat spikes up to 110 degrees for prolonged periods in the summer, what happens.
Couple that to loosing large portions of the coast - of a nation that is mostly coast and you get the picture.
The only "good" news is that the Arabs in the Gaza would feel the pinch first and hardest and surely attack as they fled inland.
You forget that climate change wouldn't be a concern with a Palin Presidency. The Rapture would kick in in 2 years tops.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, May 8, 2010 11:32:37pm |
re: #367 Querent
why do i get the feeling that if Israel built a slew of new desalinization plants in anticipation of such an emergency, the Arabs would then accuse them of stealing the Palestinians' rightful seawater?
(Arggghhh...)
Because they would.
I should also note that the "not racist" animals at the barn are now posting our remarks in crude versions of ebonics to mock us.
Nothing says your real impressions of folks if you use black racial slurs as a sign of contempt.
I am so very glad those scum were banned.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 11:32:41pm |
re: #368 SanFranciscoZionist
and cue Iago the Parrot again, why am i NOT surprised.
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 11:34:31pm |
re: #370 ludwigvanquixote
Well, gee, i always wanted to be notorious!
(wait, you mean i actually rate their august notice? Wowzers... and here i was thinking the 13 updings for my Little Green Footnotes suggestion was going to go down in LGF History as my personal best...)
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Querent Sat, May 8, 2010 11:36:55pm |
re: #353 laZardo
just don't resurrect her as Akasha Queen of the Damned. Those oversize fangs made her look like Kali.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, May 8, 2010 11:40:14pm |
re: #368 SanFranciscoZionist
They would. Check out the 'Stolen Beauty' campaign against Ahava. The Israelis are taking minerals from the Dead Sea, which the Palestinians are being blocked from!!!
Yeah no shit. Honestly, I am so sick and tired of the Pali propaganda.
It endlessly pisses me off how the Arab states, who are scared shitless over the Iranian nuclear program see UN conferences not as a way to pressure Iran, who will try to dominate them, but as a bank shot at Israel. One could imagine that they want to look blameless and try to force the US to bomb Iran.
Of course, in politics, almost nothing is done for moral reasons.
What I really want to know is why G-d thought is was necessary to see to it that we Jews always have awful neighbors. We couldn't get countries like Canada or Belgium for neighbors.
I do not like Obama and his many weaknesses. I do not like the fact that W. left this country so weakened that our options were so severely restricted. At the end of the day though, there are larger concerns. Because as I keep saying, none of it matters if we do not stop AGW.
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Nimed Sat, May 8, 2010 11:42:54pm |
re: #370 ludwigvanquixote
Going to bed soon... But, in other news, Cato finished A Game of Throned and is officially hooked on ASoIaF.
In 2 months, he will be desperately waiting for the release of A Dance with Dragons, just like the rest of us. That'll show him!
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, May 8, 2010 11:44:58pm |
re: #375 Nimed
Going to bed soon... But, in other news, Cato finished A Game of Throned and is officially hooked on ASoIaF.
In 2 months, he will be desperately waiting for the release of A Dance with Dragons, just like the rest of us. That'll show him!
Lol... Well, that's a good problem to have.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 11:47:42pm |
re: #370 ludwigvanquixote
Because they would.
I should also note that the "not racist" animals at the barn are now posting our remarks in crude versions of ebonics to mock us.
Nothing says your real impressions of folks if you use black racial slurs as a sign of contempt.
I am so very glad those scum were banned.
They've found some kind of 'translator' site.
How tasteful and classy.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, May 8, 2010 11:51:26pm |
re: #377 SanFranciscoZionist
They've found some kind of 'translator' site.
How tasteful and classy.
Well what do you expect from scum?
Also did you find out what was going on with whomever was posting from your school?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 11:57:39pm |
re: #377 SanFranciscoZionist
They've found some kind of 'translator' site.
How tasteful and classy.
I would like to report, however, that if you use a dialect translator to turn LGF into Cockney, we become "Wee Green Footies", which I rather like.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 8, 2010 11:58:24pm |
re: #378 LudwigVanQuixote
Well what do you expect from scum?
Also did you find out what was going on with whomever was posting from your school?
Yes. One of my coworkers. No malign intent, he was just trolling to see if he could get me fuming over the AZ law.
I work with weird people.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 9, 2010 12:01:09am |
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Gus Sun, May 9, 2010 12:05:08am |
re: #378 LudwigVanQuixote
Well what do you expect from scum?
Also did you find out what was going on with whomever was posting from your school?
One of them just linked to a blog called South Africa Sucks to an article called A White South Africa – What Went Wrong. Check out the racist blog roll over there. They even include a book roll which includes Douglas Reed:
Richard Thurlow noted that Reed was one of the first antisemitic writers to deny Hitler's persecution of the Jews. In a review of Reed's Lest We Regret written in 1943, George Orwell compared Reed's outlook to that of the Nazi Otto Strasser and the British fascist leader Oswald Mosley, stressing Reed's continuing denial of Nazi persecution of the Jews.
In the 1960's Reed was outspoken in his opposition to the decolonization of Africa, considering the Black Africans to be unable to govern themselves and needing prolonged colonial tutelage. In his "The Battle for Rhodesia" (1966) he explicitly compared decolonization to the above-mentioned appeasement of Hitler; he strongly supported Ian Smith's unilateral declaration of independence from the United Kingdom, arguing that Smith's Rhodesia had to be defended as "the last bulwark against the Third World War", just as Czechoslovakia should have been defended against Hitler in 1938.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, May 9, 2010 1:00:49am |
re: #383 Gus 802
One of them just linked to a blog called South Africa Sucks to an article called A White South Africa – What Went Wrong. Check out the racist blog roll over there. They even include a book roll which includes Douglas Reed:
Richard Thurlow noted that Reed was one of the first antisemitic writers to deny Hitler's persecution of the Jews. In a review of Reed's Lest We Regret written in 1943, George Orwell compared Reed's outlook to that of the Nazi Otto Strasser and the British fascist leader Oswald Mosley, stressing Reed's continuing denial of Nazi persecution of the Jews.
In the 1960's Reed was outspoken in his opposition to the decolonization of Africa, considering the Black Africans to be unable to govern themselves and needing prolonged colonial tutelage. In his "The Battle for Rhodesia" (1966) he explicitly compared decolonization to the above-mentioned appeasement of Hitler; he strongly supported Ian Smith's unilateral declaration of independence from the United Kingdom, arguing that Smith's Rhodesia had to be defended as "the last bulwark against the Third World War", just as Czechoslovakia should have been defended against Hitler in 1938.
Yeah and to think that there are Jews there who see nothing wrong and are busily calling me names for pointing out that they are hanging out with creeps.
It is disgusting all the way around. They really are all utter scum.
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ryannon Sun, May 9, 2010 1:39:04am |
re: #147 Varek Raith
*Warning beep*
Drop your coupon. You have 15 seconds to comply!
Don't taze me, bro!
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laZardo Sun, May 9, 2010 3:48:26am |
So my little brother's band just got radio airtime.
/stewing in envy
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, May 9, 2010 3:57:26am |
re: #386 ryannon
Don't
tazelase me, bro!
Fixd
Good Morning Lizards!
Just bought my LGF Cookbook Vol II!!
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, May 9, 2010 4:27:05am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 4:53:11am |
I haven't been up this early in quite some time. The time when I used to wake up is now the time I go to bed. But, it is what it is. Morning Honcos!!
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SixDegrees Sun, May 9, 2010 4:55:22am |
Victory is mine! Qt is my bitch!
Excuse me while I go wallow in ecstasy.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, May 9, 2010 5:03:41am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 5:05:54am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 5:13:17am |
How do you spell commie douchebag?
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laZardo Sun, May 9, 2010 5:15:06am |
re: #396 Cannadian Club Akbar
Definitely not M-A-C-H-E-T-E.
/because I really wanna watch Grindhouse III. O:
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SixDegrees Sun, May 9, 2010 5:21:57am |
re: #393 Cannadian Club Akbar
Uh, I'll ask. What is Qt?
Qt is a large, complex and very capable C++ library. It started off as a set of GUI components, but has grown to vast size over the years.
Mostly, it makes a programmer's life much simpler, but it has some unusual quirks - one of which I've been beating my head against for a solid day and a half. I finally solved the puzzle this morning - and like all such problems, the solution seems obvious now, but it sure as hell wasn't until I figured out what was going on.
I will be a hero at work tomorrow. At least until lunchtime.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 5:22:49am |
After mowing my yard yesterday, I realized how much I love my house. Sat in the garage, drinking a beer, just chilln'. While I was once reserved to losing my house, I am now in full mode to do whatever it takes to keep it.
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sandbox Sun, May 9, 2010 5:23:00am |
re: #374 ludwigvanquixote
You wrote:
I do not like Obama and his many weaknesses. I do not like the fact that W. left this country so weakened that our options were so severely restricted. At the end of the day though, there are larger concerns. Because as I keep saying, none of it matters if we do not stop AGW.
That's where we differ. I worry more about the threat from Iran and radical islam than I do about any possible problem with AGW.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 5:28:29am |
re: #399 Cannadian Club Akbar
Good. The bank really doesn't want it either. I'll bet they'll work it out with you.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 5:33:46am |
I posted something on Facebook yesterday about Westboro Baptist... a lawyer friend of mine posted this in response....
It's obviously an act. I met Shirley Phelps Roper and some other Westboro folks when they came to protest my church in Chapel Hill over ten years ago. I was convinced at the time it was all shtick, and hearing Shirley in numerous radio interviews over the years since then confirmed my suspicion. Those people are more performance artists than anything else in my opinion. Their act is so absurd that I am always shocked that anyone takes them seriously, although apparently some do. They're laughing at us I am sure.
Was the first take like that about them I've ever seen.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 5:34:41am |
re: #402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Good. The bank really doesn't want it either. I'll bet they'll work it out with you.
They (the bank) sends me letters, wanting to refinance, but I haven't heard from my lawyer. I think the ball is in my court. Being out of work for 20 months sure does fuck up a nice life.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 5:36:58am |
re: #404 Cannadian Club Akbar
They (the bank) sends me letters, wanting to refinance, but I haven't heard from my lawyer. I think the ball is in my court. Being out of work for 20 months sure does fuck up a nice life.
As does bad grammar!!! Heh.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 5:40:29am |
Happy Mother's Day to the few mothers who are awake at this hour...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 5:42:25am |
re: #404 Cannadian Club Akbar
They really want you to be able to keep your house. They're inventory is high enough. Get it on!
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 5:45:02am |
re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They really want you to be able to keep your house. They're inventory is high enough. Get it on!
Agree completely, and in addition, real estate inventory is actually a liability on their books, as opposed to an asset. It's toxic for a bank to repo houses in an economy where they can't sell. Give them a glimmer that they may see some form of payment at some point in the future and they're likely to be very interested...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 5:45:14am |
re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They really want you to be able to keep your house. They're inventory is high enough. Get it on!
My obstacle is the % of what I make vs the house payment. I guess people don't understand that some people are happy not going out to eat, drink, etc. I went 20 months without either. I don't miss any of it.
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laZardo Sun, May 9, 2010 5:47:42am |
Meanwhile, in the War on Hummus...
Lebanon has claimed the latest victory in the continuing battle with Israel over which country can make the largest serving of hummus.
Some 300 chefs set the new record, creating a huge 10-tonne vat of the chickpea-based dip in Fanar.
That more than doubles the previous record of about four tonnes, set in January by cooks in the Israeli-Arab town of Abu Ghosh near Jerusalem.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:49:05am |
Happy Mother's Day to all the ladies who are moms!
From my email today:
MOTHERS
Real Mothers don't eat quiche;
They don't have time to make it.Real Mothers know that their kitchen utensils
Are probably in the sandbox.Real Mothers often have sticky floors,
Filthy ovens and happy kids.Real Mothers know that dried play dough
Doesn't come out of carpets.Real Mothers don't want to know what
The vacuum just sucked up.......Real Mothers sometimes ask 'Why me?'
And get their answer when a little
Voice says, 'Because I love you best.'Real Mothers know that a child's growth
Is not measured by height or years or grade...
It is marked by the progression of Mommy to Mom to Mother.....The Images of Mother
4 YEARS OF AGE - My Mommy can do anything!
8 YEARS OF AGE - My Mom knows a lot! A whole lot!
12 YEARS OF AGE - My Mother doesn't know everything!
14 YEARS OF AGE - My Mother? She wouldn't have a clue.
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16 YEARS OF AGE - Mother? She's so five minutes ago.18 YEARS OF AGE - That old woman? She's way out of date!
25 YEARS OF AGE - Well, she might know a little bit about it!
35 YEARS OF AGE - Before we decide, let's get Mom's opinion.
45 YEARS OF AGE - Wonder what Mom would have thought about it?
65 YEARS OF AGE - Wish I could talk it over with Mom.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure she carries, or the way she combs her hair
The beauty of a woman must be seen from in her eyes,
Because that is the doorway to her heart,
The place where love resides.
The beauty of a woman is not in a facial mole,
But true beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul.
It is the caring that she lovingly gives, the passion that she
Shows, and the beauty of a woman with passing years only grows!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 5:52:13am |
re: #411 NJDhockeyfan
The last time I talked to my mom, my step dad was getting ready to come back to Florida for a short stay. I told her to send cookies. She started making some right after we hung up the phone.:)
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:53:36am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 5:54:10am |
I just found an 8x10 glossy of me with the Stanley Cup and the coach (at the time) of the Lightning. From 2004 when we won the Cup. Cool.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 5:57:42am |
re: #415 Cannadian Club Akbar
I just found an 8x10 glossy of me with the Stanley Cup and the coach (at the time) of the Lightning. From 2004 when we won the Cup. Cool.
Fuckin' A!
Some history on the greatest sports trophy in the world...
"I have for some time been thinking that it would be a good thing if there were a challenge cup, which would be held from year to year by the leading hockey club in Canada. There does not appear to be any outward sign of a championship at present, and considering the interest that hockey matches now elicit, I am willing to give a cup which shall be held annually by the winning club."
So mused Lord Stanley of Preston in 1892, at a sports banquet in Ottawa. The following year Canada's governor-general was true to his word, purchasing a silver bowl for $50 and naming it the Dominion Hockey Challenge Cup. Hockey folks went with a less formal designation, the Stanley Cup.
The first winner was a Montreal team that finished atop the Amateur Hockey Association of Canada, considered the best league going at the time. But in its early years, the prize was not exclusive to one hockey league, nor was it meant to be. It was a challenge cup, changing hands in much the same way as a boxing title. Contenders issued challenges, and the champions held the Cup for as long as they could fend off all comers. Independent trustees ensured that legitimate challenges were met on a regular basis.
In later years, as professionalism swept the game, it was accepted that the Stanley Cup could not remain exclusive to amateur teams. The Stanley Cup officially turned pro in 1910, when the National Hockey Association took possession of it. But it was not until 1926 that the National Hockey League emerged indisputably as the top league in North America, effectively taking control of the Cup. That control was formalized in an agreement signed with the Cup trustees in 1947.
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Semper Fi Sun, May 9, 2010 5:59:38am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 6:01:25am |
re: #416 NJDhockeyfan
For the record, the pic sucks. I was scared shitless, not wanting to knock it over, and Torts (the coach) had already done 500 pics. But, it is what it is.:)
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:03:11am |
Morning..lizards...if you're a mom, happy Mom's Day. Everybody else, call or see your mom today and show her some love: Do her dishes, pick up the house, do something for her that requires more effort than writing a check or pulling out a credit card.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 6:06:13am |
re: #419 PT Barnum
Morning..lizards...if you're a mom, happy Mom's Day. Everybody else, call or see your mom today and show her some love: Do her dishes, pick up the house, do something for her that requires more effort than writing a check or pulling out a credit card.
eh...if you know what's good for you, you'll CALL your mom but you'll EXECUTE a good mother's day on behalf of your kids for your wife...
that is, if you have a wife and kids...
Mom just wants to know that i'm thinking about her. Wife wants service with a smile...and deservedly so!
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:06:17am |
A quick word on the subject from Tom Lehrer:
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 6:06:54am |
re: #419 PT Barnum
Morning..lizards...if you're a mom, happy Mom's Day. Everybody else, call or see your mom today and show her some love: Do her dishes, pick up the house, do something for her that requires more effort than writing a check or pulling out a credit card.
I served her breakfast in bed. There she was with her plate of eggs with both kids, the dog, and the cat all together on the bed with her.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:08:39am |
re: #420 Aceofwhat?
eh...if you know what's good for you, you'll CALL your mom but you'll EXECUTE a good mother's day on behalf of your kids for your wife...
that is, if you have a wife and kids...
Mom just wants to know that i'm thinking about her. Wife wants service with a smile...and deservedly so!
Gotta help the wife, but she's expecting it. Going over and doing something for your mom will be a pleasant surprise, cause all she's expecting is a phone call or a cheesy card.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 6:08:45am |
re: #419 PT Barnum
My mom lives two hours away, I was up there on Friday so was able to get my "Mother's Day" on with her (without all the siblings around [who are up there today])...
This is a great Mother's Day in my little corner of the Universe. On Thursday the Oncologist released Mom from tests and stuff indefinitely. Told her he was sick of seeing her because she's not sick anymore.
So, she doesn't have to even do blood tests anymore unless she notices any symptoms.
Yay, us.
Several friends of mine lost their Mothers last year. This will be a sad day for them.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:11:37am |
re: #424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My mom lives two hours away, I was up there on Friday so was able to get my "Mother's Day" on with her (without all the siblings around [who are up there today])...
This is a great Mother's Day in my little corner of the Universe. On Thursday the Oncologist released Mom from tests and stuff indefinitely. Told her he was sick of seeing her because she's not sick anymore.
So, she doesn't have to even do blood tests anymore unless she notices any symptoms.
Yay, us.
Several friends of mine lost their Mothers last year. This will be a sad day for them.
I'm very happy about your news, FBV. That is very cool news. I lost my Dad 6 years ago, but my mom is still around, driving me nuts, and I wouldn't change that for the world. My wife lost her Mom to Alzheimers the same year, but the 3 or 4 years before that we're even harder, watching her slip away.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:12:34am |
re: #425 PT Barnum
I'm very happy about your news, FBV. That is very cool news. I lost my Dad 6 years ago, but my mom is still around, driving me nuts, and I wouldn't change that for the world. My wife lost her Mom to Alzheimers the same year, but the 3 or 4 years before that
we'rewere even harder, watching her slip away.
Good Lord PIMF
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 6:13:35am |
The show "The Middle" had a great "Mother's Day" episode last week.
Patricia Heaton's idea for the episode.
Bottom line? Many mothers would love an entire day where they were just left alone.
Never occurred to me. Her dream Mother's Day... No breakfast in bed, no cheesy gifts, no nothing... wake up in the morning, husband and the kids left the house clean from the night before... and left the house, come home at ten pm on that night.
Makes sense if you think about it.
I remember watching my grandmother and my mom working very hard on Mother's Day, trying to clean up our loving gestures.
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Semper Fi Sun, May 9, 2010 6:15:10am |
re: #422 NJDhockeyfan
I served her breakfast in bed. There she was with her plate of eggs with both kids, the dog, and the cat all together on the bed with her.
A happy scene without doubt.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:15:20am |
re: #422 NJDhockeyfan
I served her breakfast in bed. There she was with her plate of eggs with both kids, the dog, and the cat all together on the bed with her.
We get that on a daily basis at our house. The little dog usually sleeps behind my knees (it's warm there don't you know, and I'm a side sleeper). Then the 9 year old comes in and snuggles in between us, then the big dog comes in because he has a bladder the size of a thimble and needs to GO! RIGHT! NOW! and jumps on the bed to let us know as much.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:16:44am |
re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The show "The Middle" had a great "Mother's Day" episode last week.
Patricia Heaton's idea for the episode.
Bottom line? Many mothers would love an entire day where they were just left alone.
Never occurred to me. Her dream Mother's Day... No breakfast in bed, no cheesy gifts, no nothing... wake up in the morning, husband and the kids left the house clean from the night before... and left the house, come home at ten pm on that night.
Makes sense if you think about it.
I remember watching my grandmother and my mom working very hard on Mother's Day, trying to clean up our loving gestures.
Yeah...a day off from being Mom, might be just the thing.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 6:17:32am |
On the subject of losing one's mother, on the lighter side?...
My grandmother started walking five miles a day when she was sixty. She's ninety-seven now, and we don't know where the hell she is.
-Ellen DeGeneres
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 6:20:53am |
Dads are totally different.
What do I want for Father's Day?
Sex.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:21:37am |
re: #432 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Dads are totally different.
What do I want for Father's Day?
Sex.
I'd double ding you for that if I could..Oh wait, that doesn't sound right at all..
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 6:21:47am |
re: #418 Cannadian Club Akbar
For the record, the pic sucks. I was scared shitless, not wanting to knock it over, and Torts (the coach) had already done 500 pics. But, it is what it is.:)
You couldn't do anything worse than has already been done to the cup over the years...
Strange Misadventures of the Stanley Cup
What single object is the world's most famous champagne cup, potato chip dish and dog-food bowl, while doubling on occasion as a baptismal font?
It's the Stanley Cup.
The Stanley Cup has partied longer and harder than Ozzy Osbourne over its 109-year reign as hockey's Holy Grail. In a tradition unique in professional sports, every player on the championship team gets at least 24 hours to do virtually whatever he wishes with old Stan.
The cup has visited the White House and Lenin's tomb. It's also visited churches, bars, and strip clubs. It's been to the top of mountains and the bottoms of pools. It's been strapped to a Harley, a dog sled, and a golf cart. And along the way, it's been kissed, hugged, and admired by countless millions. Many, undoubtedly, are not hockey fans. They wait on line for more than an hour simply to enjoy a moment in awe of Stanley's grandeur.
This is what the best in the NHL fight for each year: a 35-pound, 3-foot-high polished silver trophy with five removable rings at the base. Each one lists 13 teams and their players, which remain on the cup for 64 years. The older rings are retired and on display at the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto.
‘Yes, You Can Sleep With the Stanley Cup’
After the winning team takes their victory lap, the Stanley Cup really begins its travels, clocking more than 100,000 miles a year, raising millions of dollars for charity and and acting as hockey's foremost celebrity.
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Varek Raith Sun, May 9, 2010 6:21:57am |
re: #432 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Dads are totally different.
What do I want for Father's Day?
Sex.
WTH?
No cake???
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 6:23:42am |
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 6:23:56am |
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:24:43am |
re: #436 Cannadian Club Akbar
She pops out of the cake. Then the sex!!:)
Actually after a certain age..if she offers super sex, you're just as likely to take the soup.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 6:26:22am |
re: #435 Varek Raith
WTH?
No cake???
In all honesty, I rarely think of cake during sex. When I'm thinking of cake, sex normally finds a way to sneak its way into my thoughts.
Yeah, I do like sex more than cake or pie.
Okay, I said it.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:28:12am |
re: #439 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In all honesty, I rarely think of cake during sex. When I'm thinking of cake, sex normally finds a way to sneak its way into my thoughts.
Yeah, I do like sex more than cake or pie.
Okay, I said it.
cake or pie during sex is kinda messy, NTTAWWT
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Semper Fi Sun, May 9, 2010 6:29:02am |
re: #438 PT Barnum
Actually after a certain age..if she offers super sex, you're just as likely to take the soup.
Also, then we become well read and more intelligent like George in Seinfeld.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:31:22am |
re: #442 Semper Fi
Also, then we become well read and more intelligent like George in Seinfeld.
I remember reading a story about Balzac, who apparently thought that his creative output was reduced by his orgasmic output.
He apparently forgot this, as one day he mentioned to a friend that the previous day he had lost an entire novel.
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What, me worry? Sun, May 9, 2010 6:31:32am |
re: #439 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In all honesty, I rarely think of cake during sex. When I'm thinking of cake, sex normally finds a way to sneak its way into my thoughts.
Yeah, I do like sex more than cake or pie.
Okay, I said it.
lol Me too. It's the best 4 minutes of my day.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:32:13am |
re: #444 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Crossword puzzle time.
TIME ME!
Which one? The NYT crossword is my favorite, but I've never finished an entire week's worth..They get progressively harder. Saturday and Sunday are killers.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 6:33:04am |
re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The show "The Middle" had a great "Mother's Day" episode last week.
Patricia Heaton's idea for the episode.
Bottom line? Many mothers would love an entire day where they were just left alone.
Never occurred to me. Her dream Mother's Day... No breakfast in bed, no cheesy gifts, no nothing... wake up in the morning, husband and the kids left the house clean from the night before... and left the house, come home at ten pm on that night.
Makes sense if you think about it.
I remember watching my grandmother and my mom working very hard on Mother's Day, trying to clean up our loving gestures.
yeah, i'm offering my wife the keys to the car and a hug goodbye if that's what she wants...i can stay here and play with the kids if she just wants to be free, although i do that several times per week anyway.
but yeah. Mother's day here is a menu of options and she gets to pick what she wants, even if it means alone time all day.
(hmmm...actually, the Cavs are on at 3:30...that would be a GREAT time for her to get out of the house)
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 6:33:47am |
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:33:52am |
Behold the humble crossword
a source of endless bliss
beloved by generations
of cruciverbalists
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 6:34:16am |
re: #446 marjoriemoon
lol Me too. It's the best 4 minutes of my day.
I really hope Mr. Moon isn't looking over your shoulder.
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Semper Fi Sun, May 9, 2010 6:34:47am |
re: #445 PT Barnum
I remember reading a story about Balzac, who apparently thought that his creative output was reduced by his orgasmic output.
He apparently forgot this, as one day he mentioned to a friend that the previous day he had lost an entire novel.
I think I know what he meant. Musta been a memorable day.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:35:02am |
Doonesbury is good today...kind of belies the whole teleprompter bullshit...
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 6:35:27am |
Has anyone done a Spanish course online or used one of the multitude of other courses out there?
I'm looking for recommendations if anyone has.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 6:35:55am |
re: #439 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In all honesty, I rarely think of cake during sex. When I'm thinking of cake, sex normally finds a way to sneak its way into my thoughts.
Yeah, I do like sex more than cake or pie.
Okay, I said it.
cake is for AFTER sex...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 6:37:25am |
re: #454 Jadespring
Has anyone done a Spanish course online or used one of the multitude of other courses out there?
I'm looking for recommendations if anyone has.
I have heard Rosetta Stone is good. But pricey.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 6:37:28am |
re: #454 Jadespring
Has anyone done a Spanish course online or used one of the multitude of other courses out there?
I'm looking for recommendations if anyone has.
is your husband learning too or just you?
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 6:41:48am |
Another blog I check suggested that we need to make sure that we think of those Moms who have lost a child, to disease, war, accident.
They must be feeling a special sense of loss today.
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What, me worry? Sun, May 9, 2010 6:42:12am |
re: #451 Cannadian Club Akbar
I really hope Mr. Moon isn't looking over your shoulder.
He liked the super sex comment better.
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 6:43:15am |
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What, me worry? Sun, May 9, 2010 6:44:43am |
re: #454 Jadespring
Has anyone done a Spanish course online or used one of the multitude of other courses out there?
I'm looking for recommendations if anyone has.
I take it you don't have any adult education classes at a nearby school?
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 6:45:11am |
re: #456 Cannadian Club Akbar
I have heard Rosetta Stone is good. But pricey.
Yeah I looked at that. It is expensive.
Right now I'm more interested in learning to read Spanish, mainly to access Spanish language newspapers and such.
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 6:46:16am |
re: #462 marjoriemoon
I take it you don't have any adult education classes at a nearby school?
Unfortunately no. Spanish isn't big around here.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 6:49:57am |
re: #460 Jadespring
Just me for now. He might later on.
I asked because the most effective thing you can do is speak only spanish while at home, between the two of you...that will make whatever course you choose far less crucial to your success.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 6:52:04am |
re: #463 Jadespring
Yeah I looked at that. It is expensive.
Right now I'm more interested in learning to read Spanish, mainly to access Spanish language newspapers and such.
Find an employee of Rosetta Stone. They can get you a copy for $20 bucks.
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reine.de.tout Sun, May 9, 2010 6:55:29am |
re: #422 NJDhockeyfan
I served her breakfast in bed. There she was with her plate of eggs with both kids, the dog, and the cat all together on the bed with her.
Sounds like a perfect morning!
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reine.de.tout Sun, May 9, 2010 6:57:57am |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 6:58:53am |
re: #466 NJDhockeyfan
Find an employee of Rosetta Stone. They can get you a copy for $20 bucks.
True that. If you've got friends who work at a mall where it is sold, see if they're in with the people who sell it. That can get you a discount.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 7:00:27am |
re: #464 Jadespring
Unfortunately no. Spanish isn't big around here.
What state are you in? North Dakota?
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 7:00:42am |
re: #469 Dark_Falcon
True that. If you've got friends who work at a mall where it is sold, see if they're in with the people who sell it. That can get you a discount.
My friend's mother works for them. I should hit him up for some software for my kids.
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 7:00:49am |
The Little green football prayer list
On this day in History..1914 Mothers Day became an official holiday.
Happy Mothers day!
Rest in peace mom..You were the greatest person in my life..I will never forget your love and kindness.
We pray today for the Southern Coast of America and for all those whose lives are affected by the oil spill. We pray for the environment that is being damaged.
We thank you Lord that no one was hurt in Times Square last night from the attempted car bombing.
We thank you Lord for your kindness to Lazardo’s Family.. Look after them and bring them blessings..We pray for his grandmother this morning.. She has cancer and will soon pass.. Be there for her Lord as she comes home.
Jadespring: Dear Lord bring healing to a Sister.. Bring grace and strength to the Family.
We pray for your tender mercies
Wlewisiii: If you would pray as appropriate to your beliefs for John Freuh, his step-mother, my sister Elisabeth & his father Rick, I'd appreciate it.
Dear Lord..We ask you this day you bring healing and grace to SFZ’s Father and Mother-in-law..
Help her in the Job search and finding her a new Career. .
We know your love brings healing and life.
Dear Lord..We pray for SFZ this morning:
Her friend of a friend has a newborn son facing some bad medical issues. Prayers for Grant, son of Jill and Steven, are greatly appreciated.
Ausador: Parents
Irenicum: Lord heal this family and bring comfort to them..
Guanxi88: Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife's best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.
Reine: Health and Family.. Lord we ask you grant Reine’s Daughter a Special blessing..Look after her and grant grace.
gregb - 4 year old son who suffered a head injury last Friday and spent the
weekend in the ICU with some lingering effects all week.
SteveC: Two friends, one needs heart surgery, and one might.
If you could add Sherman Nugent and his family to the prayer list, it would be greatly appreciated. He was a professor at my school since 1968, and a good friend to many. He only stopped teaching and conducting research a couple of semesters ago. Not sure if adding a link to obituaries is customary or not, but here it is: link-
Dark_Falcon Hoops, I have a late addition to the Prayer List: Last week my sister fell and seriously fractured her ankle. She has cerebral palsy, and though two surgeries have enabled her to walk normally, when she hurries she can still fall sometimes. This time she got hurt badly and your thoughts and prayers are appreciated.
Jadespring: Our prayers go out to your sister…May she be healed
lurking faith… prayers for an aunt
,Beekiller: Sister has been diagnosed with Cancer…We pray for a speedy recovery
FBV: Add my friend Jeff. Recently diagnosed with ALS. His family will watch him fade and die over the next three to five years. Wife and two kids (kids are young adults).
Prairiefire: Health for Family and friends
Mcspiff: if you could add my uncle to the list. He went in for surgery today and it didn't go so well. Extra organs had to come out, etc. Still just hearing bits and pieces now. But any prayers would be greatly appreciated.
Alouette’ Dear Father..His name in Hebrew is Pinhas ben Rivka. , and he is in congestive heart failure. He is 91 years old, and a WW2 Pacific vet.
Reloadingisnotahobby: Could add my parents?
They're in their 80's and slipping in to ALZ...Simultaneously
We pray for all our Troops who have died protecting our Freedom.. Comfort the families Dear Lord this morning…
Give strength to all our Armed Forces serving at home or abroad …America thanks you.
God Bless Israel.. Continue to bless her with prosperity and strength…The land of Milk and Honey…
Thank you Lord..
Amen
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What, me worry? Sun, May 9, 2010 7:03:34am |
re: #464 Jadespring
Unfortunately no. Spanish isn't big around here.
Ahhh. Pity. I've been in Miami about 30 years and I don't speak fluently which is embarrassing. They make fun of me at my favorite coffee stand. I can say about 10 words, but I say them in a really authentic Cuban accent. "Look at the gringa!" And they all point and laugh at me. Oh good times.
Not that this helps you now, but have you thought of calling the adult education course people (?) in your area? Maybe you're not the only one who wants to learn. If they get enough folks, they may offer a course.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 7:04:30am |
re: #473 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
DONE!
LA TIMES
How does it compare to NYT?
Out here in Iowa, we get the NYT puzzle through the Des Moines Register.
Speaking of which, anybody listen to the Puzzle on Sunday Morning edition?
Will Shortz is the NYT puzzle editor.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:04:34am |
How to make moonshine is on History Chanel right now. Heh.
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 7:04:56am |
re: #470 PT Barnum
What state are you in? North Dakota?
I'm in ruralville Canada.
Now if I wanted to find an adult education French, German of Gaelic class that would be no problem.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:07:14am |
re: #475 PT Barnum
Compared to the NYT Sunday puzzles?
Here you go, best analogy I can think of...
William F. Buckley, Jr. /vs/ Glenn Beck
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Semper Fi Sun, May 9, 2010 7:07:45am |
re: #472 HoosierHoops
Hoosier, you do an outstanding job with the prayer list. Thanks.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:07:55am |
re: #476 Cannadian Club Akbar
How to make moonshine is on History Chanel right now. Heh.
I met the man on a History Channel Moonshine show... he was a revenuer.
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 7:08:46am |
re: #474 marjoriemoon
Ahhh. Pity. I've been in Miami about 30 years and I don't speak fluently which is embarrassing. They make fun of me at my favorite coffee stand. I can say about 10 words, but I say them in a really authentic Cuban accent. "Look at the gringa!" And they all point and laugh at me. Oh good times.
Not that this helps you now, but have you thought of calling the adult education course people (?) in your area? Maybe you're not the only one who wants to learn. If they get enough folks, they may offer a course.
The only Spanish sentence I know is "Donde esta la tortuga."
Though it's pretty amazing how much I can figure out when I'm reading it just from knowing some French. I seem to be able to get the general idea of whats being talked about.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 7:10:07am |
re: #476 Cannadian Club Akbar
How to make moonshine is on History Chanel right now. Heh.
I know someone who makes there own moonshine around here. He has the parts of the still hidden all around his property. LOL
I saw a documentary on PBS years ago on making cocaine. They were the first to film the process from coca leaves to the finished product which took place somewhere in the jungles of Columbia. . It was very interesting to watch. There were guys walking around with assault rifles along with the guys making the cocaine.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:10:18am |
re: #483 Jadespring
Does that mean "Don't be a turtle"?
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 7:10:50am |
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:11:22am |
Mornin' all. Happy Mothers' Day moms! Saw Iron Man 2 with the 10 yr old yesterday, it was okay. I want one of those Audi 10 cyl cars!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:13:32am |
Twice this week I have been served beef burritos by mistake. Once in a Mexican restaurant, once at Taco Bell.
Took a bite of the Taco Bell one... had to open the car door to spit it out... the poor folks behind me... it looked like I was selling Buicks.
The texture was soooo disgusting.
Twice in one week. Hasn't happened to me in five years, then twice in one week.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:13:50am |
re: #481 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
There's a guy up here in eastern WA starting a distillery for brandy. We have an absolute shitload f wineries that have went in and he's the first one to get set up to make brandy. Also, they're gonna try apple, peach, pear brandy.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:14:54am |
re: #488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That sucks. What do you get? Just the bean and all the fixins' burrito?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 7:16:42am |
re: #472 HoosierHoops
Hoops, just so you know my sister has recovered. You can take her off the list.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:16:45am |
re: #488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A Hindu guy got a beef burrito from Taco Bell by accident. IIRC, they had to pay for him to go to India for a religious ceremony to cleanse his sin.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:18:00am |
re: #490 pingjockey
Taco Bell? I get the 1/2 lb Cheesy Bean and Rice Burrito, hold the nacho cheese (because it's disgusting)...
Mexican Restaurants I normally order a California style burrito, hold the carne, hold the pollo... etc...
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 7:18:24am |
re: #491 Dark_Falcon
Hoops, just so you know my sister has recovered. You can take her off the list.
That is good news..Thanks for the update
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Jadespring Sun, May 9, 2010 7:19:37am |
re: #485 Cannadian Club Akbar
Does that mean "Don't be a turtle"?
Where is the turtle?
I may have spelled it wrong though.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:20:07am |
I've told this story...
In Omaha, at the Omaha Beef Company having a few drinks and dinner. Asked the waitress, "What do you recommend here for a vegetarian?"
She gave, perhaps one of the greatest answers ever given to a question.
She replied... "I recommend that he goes outside and reads the building."
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:20:23am |
re: #493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Gotcha. I miss San Diego, at least 3 mom and pop taco shop within 3 blocks of the house. Rolled tacos with guacamole and their homemade sauce. Yum. Here in the Wenatchee, WA area we've had some folks open restaurants, but not quicky stops.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:22:18am |
I went back into the Taco Bell, and politely returned it and asked for them to fix the order. They were falling over each other apologizing.
I don't get all huffy. How many vegetarians order in those places. Very few. I just ask them to fix my order when something does happen and go on with my day.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:22:20am |
re: #496 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I told a friend your story last week. Heh.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:24:06am |
re: #499 Cannadian Club Akbar
Seriously, it's a great story. Fantastic response.
She told me she'd had that answer in her pocket ready to throw out for a long time.
She was also very relieved that I laughed.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:26:00am |
I just found out where the term "bootlegger" came from.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Sun, May 9, 2010 7:26:19am |
The war on drugs marches ever onward...
A swat team in Columbia Washington executes a narcotics search warrant and ends up shooting both of the family dogs, a pitmix and a corgi. In front of a seven year old child, yet. All they found was a misdemeanor amount of marijuana, but now to cover their asses they have charged the parents with "Child Endangerment."
So smoking pot in your own house is endangering your children but the police storming your house and firing seven rounds with the kid present somehow is not?
*NSFW LANGUAGE*
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 7:26:34am |
Vandals mar new pedestrian bridge in Detroit
Less than a day after it opened, the Mexicantown Bagley Avenue Pedestrian Bridge was vandalized, Michigan Department of Transportation officials said.
Numerous individuals have "tagged" the $5 million bridge with spray paint and used knives to carve into a wooden bench in the middle of the span. Others signed their names with pens and magic markers on the bench, officials said.
In fact, an MDOT employee's video camera caught one woman as she used a colored pen to scrawl on a bench in the middle of the 400-foot-long bridge.
"Yes, it was me," said Oneita Jackson, a copy editor at the Detroit Free Press and author of Sunday's "O Street" blog.
"I did it. If you see a person with a green pen ... dressed in black slacks and a red top, that's me. I was excited about the event and wanted to put my name on it."
Jackson eventually put away the marker and said "Oh, I guess I shouldn't be doing this," the tape showed. As a blogger, she has written about her efforts as a mom to raise her 16-year-old son and encourage citizens to be more patient and civil.
Wonderful example to her kids.
//
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:27:21am |
re: #502 ausador
Oh, don't get me started... we've discussed this several times this week. Each time I've gotten more angry.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:28:02am |
re: #501 Cannadian Club Akbar
Heh! I just found out last year, you can distill up to 30 gallons of liquor for your personal use here in WA state. I knew you could brew like 500 gallons of beer, but not hard liquor.
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What, me worry? Sun, May 9, 2010 7:29:39am |
re: #498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I went back into the Taco Bell, and politely returned it and asked for them to fix the order. They were falling over each other apologizing.
I don't get all huffy. How many vegetarians order in those places. Very few. I just ask them to fix my order when something does happen and go on with my day.
I thought the beans at Taco Bell were made with lard. Cuban beans are, or are made with beef stock.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:30:15am |
re: #502 ausador
Columbia, MO not WA. However, it is still rehensible.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 7:30:31am |
re: #503 NJDhockeyfan
Vandals mar new pedestrian bridge in Detroit
Wonderful example to her kids.//
What a toilet of a town. They ought to emplace video cameras and a 'thumping squad' at a new thing like that. Get caught tagging and the guards beat you down. No ticket, no trial, just a going over with nightsticks. Maybe that would convince people not to do such things.
/not entirely serious, but very frustrated with asshole vandals.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:30:55am |
re: #506 marjoriemoon
I check before ordering. I emailed Taco Bell once to ask them. Someone called me from corporate assuring me that their beans were vegan.
That was several years ago, and I haven't checked back. Perhaps I should.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 7:32:50am |
re: #509 Cannadian Club Akbar
What. The. Fuck.
That happens. There's a lot cops can do to you that they can just walk away from.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:33:00am |
re: #502 ausador
The cops lost one up here. Seems these folks found a back pack stuffed with over 250k$ and the cops said..umm....no that's ours, it's obviously drug money. Well the folks who found it went to court and the judge agreed with them! After the 90 day waiting period those folks got the money.
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Semper Fi Sun, May 9, 2010 7:33:11am |
re: #503 NJDhockeyfan
Vandals mar new pedestrian bridge in Detroit
Wonderful example to her kids.
//
The Old, "do as I say not as I do."
Detroit, my old hometown. Always a lot of potential but sadly affected by this economy and other factors.
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What, me worry? Sun, May 9, 2010 7:34:47am |
re: #483 Jadespring
The only Spanish sentence I know is "Donde esta la tortuga."
Though it's pretty amazing how much I can figure out when I'm reading it just from knowing some French. I seem to be able to get the general idea of whats being talked about.
If you speak French, Spanish will be a cinch. Spanish is a pretty easy language to learn once you memorize the vocabulary. The rules are pretty easy.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 7:35:52am |
re: #513 Semper Fi
The Old, "do as I say not as I do."
Detroit, my old hometown. Always a lot of potential but sadly affected by this economy and other factors.
What gets me is one of them who got caught is an editor for a local newspaper. Do they have no shame?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:37:01am |
re: #513 Semper Fi
The Old, "do as I say not as I do."
Detroit, my old hometown. Always a lot of potential but sadly affected by this economy and other factors.
You really can't blame "This Economy" for Detroit's woes. I've been to Detroit a lot over the past ten years... sucked 10, 8 and 5 years ago.
Today it sucks more, but it sucked before.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:37:23am |
re: #515 NJDhockeyfan
She sounded pretty proud to me.
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SixDegrees Sun, May 9, 2010 7:37:32am |
re: #503 NJDhockeyfan
It would be nice if the Free Press would suspend this woman without pay for a couple of weeks, along with publishing an editorial announcing their action and deploring her actions. And if they refused to stand behind her if she finds herself facing vandalism charges.
But none of those things are going to happen.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:38:07am |
re: #515 NJDhockeyfan
The man was keeping the graffitti artists down! They have to show their unbridled spirit by putting their personal mark on public property! Power to the correct people!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 7:38:31am |
re: #515 NJDhockeyfan
What gets me is one of them who got caught is an editor for a local newspaper. Do they have no shame?
No, sadly that sort of vandalism is accepted in some circles. And Detroit has many vandals.
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Semper Fi Sun, May 9, 2010 7:39:54am |
re: #508 Dark_Falcon
What a toilet of a town. They ought to emplace video cameras and a 'thumping squad' at a new thing like that. Get caught tagging and the guards beat you down. No ticket, no trial, just a going over with nightsticks. Maybe that would convince people not to do such things.
/not entirely serious, but very frustrated with asshole vandals.
My initial feeling goes along those lines as well. Makes on wonder, what does it take?
| 522 |
What, me worry? Sun, May 9, 2010 7:40:55am |
re: #510 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I check before ordering. I emailed Taco Bell once to ask them. Someone called me from corporate assuring me that their beans were vegan.
That was several years ago, and I haven't checked back. Perhaps I should.
I be wrong.... From their page.
I have food intolerances. What menu items can meet my needs?
None of the Taco Bell® menu items contain the following potential allergens:
Sulfites or Sulfiting agents, Nuts or nut extracts (especially peanuts), Undeclared fish or seafood, Yellow #5, Lard.
[Link: www.tacobell.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:41:52am |
re: #522 marjoriemoon
Oh! Thanks. You had me skeert for a minute.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:42:27am |
re: #522 marjoriemoon
No one uses lard anymore. 'Cept me when making biscuits.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:42:43am |
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 7:43:19am |
re: #502 ausador
The war on drugs marches ever onward...
That's a terrible story..But really that's not anything..Back in the 70's and 80's Napa Valley just blew up..Everybody that was anybody hung out in the Valley..The Drugs just exploded with Coke and Pot everywhere and many lives were destroyed as the valley became flush with coke...Not far from where we lived had 2 guys killed in a Swat raid...Trouble was..It was the wrong house and 2 lives were lost for no reason at all...Coke was the scourge of Napa...
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SixDegrees Sun, May 9, 2010 7:43:57am |
re: #525 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What do we like about Detroit, Lizards?
We like SIXDEGREES!
Thanks, dude.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 7:44:11am |
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:44:29am |
I will never forgive the NFL for having the Super Bowl in Detroit, in the winter! Yes, they had a new stadium, etc...I don't care.
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 7:44:54am |
That American-born bag o' shite Awlaki has the feature article on the first page of today's NYT. May the next one be his obituary, and may it come soon, and may his end be bloody.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:45:24am |
re: #530 Cato the Elder
Can I wish for Fred Phelps to be in the car with him?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:45:31am |
re: #529 pingjockey
I will never forgive the NFL for having the Super Bowl in Detroit, in the winter! Yes, they had a new stadium, etc...I don't care.
All Super Bowls should be in Tampa.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:46:00am |
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 7:46:38am |
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:46:38am |
re: #532 Cannadian Club Akbar
Tampa, Miami, San Diego, outside, on real grass.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 7:46:55am |
re: #497 pingjockey
Gotcha. I miss San Diego, at least 3 mom and pop taco shop within 3 blocks of the house. Rolled tacos with guacamole and their homemade sauce. Yum. Here in the Wenatchee, WA area we've had some folks open restaurants, but not quicky stops.
heh. i miss the same thing about Chicago.
| 538 |
pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:47:19am |
re: #535 Cato the Elder
Is it an op-ed or a gushing paen to a "freedom" fighter?
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 7:47:49am |
re: #529 pingjockey
I will never forgive the NFL for having the Super Bowl in Detroit, in the winter! Yes, they had a new stadium, etc...I don't care.
Indy 2012! Wait till fans get a taste of an Indiana winter...
I think it should be the law that all SB's are in Miami, NO or San Diego...
/And AZ never gets another one until they change the law
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Semper Fi Sun, May 9, 2010 7:48:29am |
re: #515 NJDhockeyfan
What gets me is one of them who got caught is an editor for a local newspaper. Do they have no shame?
Yes, it's mind bending. No way could I even attempt to explain why that editor's actions.
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 7:48:50am |
re: #538 pingjockey
Is it an op-ed or a gushing paen to a "freedom" fighter?
Umm...no. Are you surprised?
| 543 |
pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:49:17am |
re: #539 HoosierHoops
Seattle will never get a SB. Outside stadium, and when we had the Kingdome, it didn't seat enough. That's why San Diego redid the Murph. More butts.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 7:49:53am |
Here's a nice tear-creating video for all on the Mother's Day.
Here is a great "Best of" compilation of soldiers coming home and surprising their families! Soooo sweet! Made me cry a river.
Thanks for watching! God bless our troops!
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Semper Fi Sun, May 9, 2010 7:50:00am |
re: #541 Semper Fi
Yes, it's mind bending. No way could I even attempt to explain why that editor's actions.
Mixed up those words a bit. Sorry.
| 547 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:50:41am |
re: #543 pingjockey
Seattle will never get a SB. Outside stadium, and when we had the Kingdome, it didn't seat enough. That's why San Diego redid the Murph. More butts.
When Tampa built the new stadium, it sat 10,000 fewer then the old one. But a better one.
| 549 |
William Barnett-Lewis Sun, May 9, 2010 7:50:50am |
re: #529 pingjockey
I will never forgive the NFL for having the Super Bowl in Detroit, in the winter! Yes, they had a new stadium, etc...I don't care.
I agree, they should have had it at Lambeau or Soldier field out in the snow where football belongs.
What?
/half serious, actually. These day's it's pretty warm by the time of the Super Bowl anyway.
William
| 550 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 7:51:51am |
re: #539 HoosierHoops
Indy 2012! Wait till fans get a taste of an Indiana winter...
I think it should be the law that all SB's are in Miami, NO or San Diego...
/And AZ never gets another one until they change the law
I'd be interesting if the Colts make it to the Superbowl in the year its held in their home city. The only thing that would make it even better is if they were playing the Giants.
| 551 |
pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:52:19am |
re: #549 wlewisiii
Heh. Used to be the last Sunday in Jan. Now it's the 1st Sunday in Feb!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:53:08am |
re: #550 Dark_Falcon
I'd be interesting if the Colts make it to the Superbowl in the year its held in their home city. The only thing that would make it even better is if they were playing the Giants.
The Bucs had that chance but decided to suck instead.
| 554 |
NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 7:53:35am |
re: #549 wlewisiii
I agree, they should have had it at Lambeau or Soldier field out in the snow where football belongs.
What?
/half serious, actually. These day's it's pretty warm by the time of the Super Bowl anyway.
William
I'd be all for a muddy snowy SB in Minnesota, not in a dome but in the elements.
| 555 |
pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:53:53am |
re: #547 Cannadian Club Akbar
IIRC, the NFL wants 70k minimum seating.
| 556 |
Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 7:54:43am |
re: #545 pingjockey
Unfortunetly, yes.
That's rather odd. Have you seen many NYT articles of any kind describing OBL as a "freedom fighter".
See with your eyes, not with your prejudices!
Here's the article. It was actually yesterday's front page, which for some reason is still on my local newsstand.
| 557 |
NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 7:54:43am |
CHINA, IRAN, AND NORTH KOREA: A TRIANGULAR STRATEGIC ALLIANCE
While the international community is facing a nuclear stalemate with Iran and North Korea, China is increasingly emerging as a Great Wall in blocking the path towards sanctions and peaceful resolution of the Iranian nuclear crisis and denuclearizaton of the Korean Peninsula. While much recent literature has been written on the deleterious effects of a regional nuclear arms race should Iran become a nuclear power, there has been relatively little effort to explore why China persistently defends Iran by blocking or watering down UNSC sanctions and on the strategic partnership between Iran and North Korea in missile and nuclear collaboration. This paper explores the triangular strategic alliance between China, Iran, and North Korea and the attendant negative spill-over that poses a threat to East Asia and Middle East regional stability.
| 558 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 7:54:47am |
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 7:55:04am |
re: #530 Cato the Elder
That American-born bag o' shite Awlaki has the feature article on the first page of today's NYT. May the next one be his obituary, and may it come soon, and may his end be bloody.
From the article...
"A product both of Yemen’s deeply conservative religious culture and freewheeling American ways, he hesitated to shake hands with women but patronized prostitutes."
What were we saying the other day when dude got caught with a rent boy? Scratch the surface of an extremist and you'll find the vice they publicly despise the most?
sheesh.
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, May 9, 2010 7:55:21am |
re: #516 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You really can't blame "This Economy" for Detroit's woes. I've been to Detroit a lot over the past ten years... sucked 10, 8 and 5 years ago.
Today it sucks more, but it sucked before.
Some of us still live here. No jobs, but can't move because my house is worth crap. :(
| 561 |
Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 7:55:29am |
re: #550 Dark_Falcon
I'd be interesting if the Colts make it to the Superbowl in the year its held in their home city. The only thing that would make it even better is if they were playing the Giants.
I'm flying back here for the SuperBowl and staying at Paulies house...His SB Parties are the best! It will be a blow out Sunday..The ESPN shows being local will be awesome...
| 562 |
pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:55:42am |
re: #554 NJDhockeyfan
Thing is, you have all the fan/corporate stuff that needs to be done outside and just like in Detroit, the fan friendly stuff sucked when it's 20 frakkin' degrees!
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 7:57:56am |
re: #553 Cannadian Club Akbar
The Bucs had that chance but decided to suck instead.
Read in Tony Dungy's book that when the Buc's fired him they locked him out of his office and he had to get his stuff after hours with a security guard..
Stay classy Bucs...Hope you never win a game again...
| 564 |
pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 7:58:33am |
re: #556 Cato the Elder
I was being a smart ass. Oops. However, in my eyes or IMO the Times likes to print stuff that has been leaked to them and is classified for a reason. That's my main issue. Other than that, I don't give a damn what the Times does. They have become like the big 3 tv networks, irrelevant. But, that is my opinion.
| 565 |
NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 7:59:02am |
re: #562 pingjockey
Thing is, you have all the fan/corporate stuff that needs to be done outside and just like in Detroit, the fan friendly stuff sucked when it's 20 frakkin' degrees!
Have the fan shit in Miami and the game in Minneapolis during a wet snowy day on natural turf making it a cold muddy game.
That would never happen but I can dream, can't I?
| 566 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 7:59:33am |
re: #560 Alouette
I didn't know you were there. Condolences.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:00:36am |
re: #556 Cato the Elder
How did the funeral go yesterday? (sorry,, too lazy to search the net) I did hear about it on Atlanta radio about 7 p.m. last night but the report was very vanilla (no mention of protests nor counter-protests)
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:00:40am |
re: #540 pingjockey
Really? Good mom and pop taco stands?
Good mom and pop carry-out burrito joints, more specifically. To afford Bucktown with a family, we bought a place just north of North&Milwaukee, close to a fairly dense Mexican/other Latino (i assume mostly Mexican but i never cared enough to ask) stretch of blocks. Great part of town. Great character, very safe for the price. The mexican community on the north side of Bucktown is fantastic group of people.
Had 3 or 4 joints within a few blocks where the clientele was 95% Mexican...i judged the food by the clientele and was never disappointed!
| 570 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, May 9, 2010 8:01:35am |
re: #569 Aceofwhat?
We have taco vans around here.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 8:03:01am |
re: #569 Aceofwhat?
Sweet! We're gonna install a fire suppression system next week in a taco truck. This extended family has 3 of these rigs and handmake their tortillas and salsa. Good eats!
| 572 |
Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 8:03:08am |
Here's the most interesting part of the Awlaki article, for me at least:
There are two conventional narratives of Mr. Awlaki’s path to jihad. The first is his own: He was a nonviolent moderate until the United States attacked Muslims openly in Afghanistan and Iraq, covertly in Pakistan and Yemen, and even at home, by making targets of Muslims for raids and arrests. He merely followed the religious obligation to defend his faith, he said.
[...]
A contrasting version of Mr. Awlaki’s story, explored though never confirmed by the national Sept. 11 commission, maintains that he was a secret agent of Al Qaeda starting well before the attacks, when three of the hijackers turned up at his mosques. By this account, all that has changed since then is that Mr. Awlaki has stopped hiding his true views.
What a shocking allegation! The media's favorite Muslim love-puppet, a liar from the beginning? It just can't be, can it?
Gee, why have I no trouble believing it could?
And the guy with the plans for the new mosque in New York, the one who bids us "understand the terrorists" and calls on Amreeka to apologize to the Muslim world, could it be he's the same?
It could.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:03:46am |
re: #571 pingjockey
Sweet! We're gonna install a fire suppression system next week in a taco truck. This extended family has 3 of these rigs and handmake their tortillas and salsa. Good eats!
that's just cool.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:04:35am |
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 8:04:50am |
re: #568 sattv4u2
How did the funeral go yesterday? (sorry,, too lazy to search the net) I did hear about it on Atlanta radio about 7 p.m. last night but the report was very vanilla (no mention of protests nor counter-protests)
The creeps never showed, perhaps because they knew they would be surrounded by half a hundred Catholic women (mainly), silently accusing them with their eyes.
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Semper Fi Sun, May 9, 2010 8:04:55am |
re: #516 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You really can't blame "This Economy" for Detroit's woes. I've been to Detroit a lot over the past ten years... sucked 10, 8 and 5 years ago.
Today it sucks more, but it sucked before.
Sorry, I missed your post.
I'm recalling a vibrant Detroit of decades ago and thus have some fond memories. Your see, I go back to a time when I can recall watching Hank Greenburg from the stands many times. But, you're right, their woes can't be solely blamed on the economy.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:05:26am |
re: #575 Cato the Elder
The creeps never showed, perhaps because they knew they would be surrounded by half a hundred Catholic women (mainly), silently accusing them with their eyes.
fantastic!
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What, me worry? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:05:59am |
re: #569 Aceofwhat?
What I would give for good Mexican food. Don't get me wrong. I love Cuban cuisine in all its fat-ladened goodness, but it's not the same.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 8:07:39am |
re: #574 sattv4u2
I got fed at a Salvadoran restaurant the other day. Did the service on their suppression system, and the matriarch of the place wouldn't let me leave until I ate! I have no idea what it was, chicken, rice, spices and I'd kill for the recipe!
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 8:08:22am |
re: #578 sattv4u2
fantastic!
The WBC publicizes their "events" well in advance on their website, which is named, no kidding, "godhatesfags.com". People have obviously started tracking them and warning their targets well in advance. The response is coordinated, well-publicized also, and very disciplined.
I think they may be finding it harder and harder to do their thing.
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Mocking Jay Sun, May 9, 2010 8:10:15am |
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 8:10:41am |
re: #581 Cato the Elder
Good. That's why I joined the Patriot Guard Riders. We show up at veterans services to screen the family from those assholes. Seems that a bunch of veterans, on big bikes, in black leather with American flags has a calming effect on dipsticks.
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 8:11:24am |
re: #584 JasonA
I'm guessing fire suppression?
Well, it's a restaurant, and apparently a good one, so maybe it's for suppressing belches.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 8:11:53am |
re: #581 Cato the Elder
The WBC publicizes their "events" well in advance on their website, which is named, no kidding, "godhatesfags.com". People have obviously started tracking them and warning their targets well in advance. The response is coordinated, well-publicized also, and very disciplined.
I think they may be finding it harder and harder to do their thing.
We can hope. Perhaps the Lord will put a boot of lightening up Fred's ass.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:11:54am |
re: #580 pingjockey
I got fed at a Salvadoran restaurant the other day. Did the service on their suppression system, and the matriarch of the place wouldn't let me leave until I ate! I have no idea what it was, chicken, rice, spices and I'd kill for the recipe!
Amazes me that people go to "Frontera" or a "Chili's" and think they're getting Mexican food!
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 8:13:22am |
re: #587 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We can hope. Perhaps the Lord will put a boot of lightening up Fred's ass.
You mean, lighten him of his mortal coil?
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 8:13:33am |
re: #583 Cato the Elder
Next time you go to a restaurant, look in at the cooking line. Peeking out from under the vent hood will be nozzles. There is a liquid chemical system that is formulated to turn to a foam when it hits grease. There is a "remote" control kind of behind the vents. The system has to be given a test run and cleaned every 6 months to make sure it works as designed. So I'm in at least one if not two restraunts a day!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 8:13:41am |
re: #572 Cato the Elder
Here's the most interesting part of the Awlaki article, for me at least:
What a shocking allegation! The media's favorite Muslim love-puppet, a liar from the beginning? It just can't be, can it?
Gee, why have I no trouble believing it could?
And the guy with the plans for the new mosque in New York, the one who bids us "understand the terrorists" and calls on Amreeka to apologize to the Muslim world, could it be he's the same?
It could.
Which adds a major reason as to why his mosque project should be stopped. I still stand by my explanation for his actions: Religious imperialism. He wants to put Islamic worship in a very public place, and slap some faces along the way.
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What, me worry? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:13:46am |
So who will be Florida's new governor when Crist departs? Take a look at this creep.
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
Just as his attack group seemingly disappeared from the public discourse, [Rick] Scott launched a new effort: to become the next Republican Governor of Florida. Scott’s website already seems to have difficulty distancing himself from his shady business dealings. Scott neglects to mention his disgraced business history, instead portraying himself as a “conservative outsider.” His website directs visitors to send campaign contributions to the same office as his private investment firm. In the past, his firm has invested heavily in technology firms instrumental in helping repressive regimes in Saudi Arabia and Iran.As ThinkProgress has reported, before Scott entered politics, he made a career out of buying up hospitals and downsizing them for profit. But his quest for creating the “McDonald’s Of Health Care” ended abruptly in shame. As detailed in our report, not only was Scott forced to resign from his HCA corporation after paying $1.7 billion in penalties for the largest healthcare fraud settlement in history, much of his exploitation of hospitals actually occurred in Florida.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 8:14:28am |
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Mocking Jay Sun, May 9, 2010 8:16:12am |
re: #586 Cato the Elder
Well, it's a restaurant, and apparently a good one, so maybe it's for suppressing belches.
Ah. I'm guessing now that you were trying to make a joke. Too early for that now on my end.
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, May 9, 2010 8:16:15am |
Has anyone read the Jeffrey Deaver novel "Roadside Crosses"? It's all about Teh Interwebs but in a very weird way, by a guy who probably churns out his books on a typewriter.
It about this stalker who goes around killing people who have said mean things about him on some guy's blog, a blog like LGF if Charles let teenagers post nasty things about their classmates here, which he doesn't.
I can't even imagine what blogs this guy actually visited in Teh Interwebs to do his research. Maybe Gateway Pundit or the Stalkers' lair.
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pingjockey Sun, May 9, 2010 8:16:21am |
You fine people have a fine day. Those of you who haven't called or visited your mom...GET YOUR ASS IN GEAR!
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:16:28am |
re: #592 marjoriemoon
So who will be Florida's new governor when Crist departs? Take a look at this creep.
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
aaaggghhh!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 8:17:14am |
re: #588 sattv4u2
Amazes me that people go to "Frontera" or a "Chili's" and think they're getting Mexican food!
I love Chili's black bean burger.
I get the nacho's sometimes... I don't have any illusions.
Never occurred to me that it might be considered Mexican.
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 8:18:15am |
re: #600 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I love Chili's black bean burger.
I get the nacho's sometimes... I don't have any illusions.
Never occurred to me that it might be considered Mexican.
I love that burger also!
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:18:20am |
, re: #596 JasonA
Ah. I'm guessing now that you were trying to make a joke. Too early for that now on my end.
Belching during/after a meal is actually a sign of thanks/respect that you lijed the meal in many cultures, iirc
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 9, 2010 8:18:28am |
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Mocking Jay Sun, May 9, 2010 8:19:23am |
re: #602 sattv4u2
,
Belching during/after a meal is actually a sign of thanks/respect that you lijed the meal in many cultures, iirc
I've heard that before. Shame it never caught on in our little melting pot...
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:19:51am |
re: #600 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I love Chili's black bean burger.
I get the nacho's sometimes... I don't have any illusions.
Never occurred to me that it might be considered Mexican.
Look in you local phone book/ directory. Last time I looked, it's listed under Mexican
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 8:20:19am |
re: #586 Cato the Elder
Well, it's a restaurant, and apparently a good one, so maybe it's for suppressing belches.
If they're bean burritos, I would guess just the opposite.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 8:20:43am |
re: #589 Cato the Elder
You mean, lighten him of his mortal coil?
I'd settle for letting the Patriot Guard bikers have 5 minutes with, with no prosecution for their actions during those minutes. If Phelps was still alive at the end of that time, he'd be a cringing wretch who would never again want to make those men angry.
/I know we can't do that, but Phelps does deserve it.
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 8:21:21am |
re: #591 Dark_Falcon
Which adds a major reason as to why his mosque project should be stopped. I still stand by my explanation for his actions: Religious imperialism. He wants to put Islamic worship in a very public place, and slap some faces along the way.
Maybe, but "religious imperialism" is not a category under law that can be used to stop a building project.
The mosque will be built.
And then, if the DHS has any wit, closely watched.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:22:09am |
re: #604 JasonA
I've heard that before. Shame it never caught on in our little melting pot...
au contraire!
When I was back in Boston I frequented many an Italian mom/pop places in the North End. I would burb (not rudely) and would notice the proprietor would smile at me!
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 8:22:29am |
re: #604 JasonA
I've heard that before. Shame it never caught on in our little melting pot...
Better out than in, I always say-Shrek
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darthstar Sun, May 9, 2010 8:23:27am |
re: #600 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I love Chili's black bean burger.
I get the nacho's sometimes... I don't have any illusions.
Never occurred to me that it might be considered Mexican.
They make a decent Bourbon & Water there too...aside from that, I can pretty much pass on Chili's menu. (though the black bean burger is pretty good)
Good morning, everyone.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:23:37am |
re: #587 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We can hope. Perhaps the Lord will put a boot of lightening up Fred's ass.
I don't envy that guy's little tête-à-tête with God.
When God goes out of his way to call you out, as in Luke 17:2 (It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied round his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin.), you may have an especially bad ending to your spiritual journey...
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, May 9, 2010 8:23:47am |
re: #603 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I really like Jeffery Deaver.
Want a cool afternoon of reading? Read "Twisted".
I have read all his books. The Lincoln Rhyme novels are the best, also the goth girl Rune. He has also written some massive stinkers. "The Bodies Left Behind" sucked.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 8:24:47am |
re: #607 Dark_Falcon
I'd settle for letting the Patriot Guard bikers have 5 minutes with, with no prosecution for their actions during those minutes. If Phelps was still alive at the end of that time, he'd be a cringing wretch who would never again want to make those men angry.
/I know we can't do that, but Phelps does deserve it.
That would just make him a martyr. I'd rather see him face to face with God and then watching him while God explains to him in no uncertain terms that he's a grade a asshole who will be spending the rest of eternity with his Friends Oral and Jerry
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:25:44am |
re: #613 darthstar
They make a decent Bourbon & Water there too...aside from that, I can pretty much pass on Chili's menu. (though the black bean burger is pretty good)
Good morning, everyone.
Depends on which one we go too (there are 4 within close proximity to us) they have pretty good BBQ ribs (sons favorite). Last year (last time we went) they had a special for 10 bucks. Full order of ribs with sides PLUS a dessert. The dessert alone on the menu was 5 bucks (and well worth it)
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:26:10am |
re: #613 darthstar
They make a decent Bourbon & Water there too...aside from that, I can pretty much pass on Chili's menu. (though the black bean burger is pretty good)
Good morning, everyone.
Hey dude. I had a fun chat with b_sharp and Nimed last night about faith. We'll have to do it again when you're around.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 8:26:12am |
re: #616 PT Barnum
That would just make him a martyr. I'd rather see him face to face with God and then watching him while God explains to him in no uncertain terms that he's a grade a asshole who will be spending the rest of eternity with his Friends Oral and Jerry
Also works for me. BBIAB
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 9, 2010 8:27:05am |
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What, me worry? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:27:16am |
re: #599 Aceofwhat?
aaaggghhh!
He's been running TV ads pretty aggressively. And he has some nerve criticizing Obama's healthcare, the crook.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:28:05am |
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 8:29:21am |
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 8:29:30am |
Guess all those scary Mexicans aren't coming over the border and committing crimes after all:
Assistant Police Chief Roy Bermudez shakes his head and smiles when he hears politicians and pundits declaring that Mexican cartel violence is overrunning his Arizona border town.
"We have not, thank God, witnessed any spillover violence from Mexico," Bermudez says emphatically. "You can look at the crime stats. I think Nogales, Arizona, is one of the safest places to live in all of America."
document Republic's Sunday front page
FBI Uniform Crime Reports and statistics provided by police agencies, in fact, show that the crime rates in Nogales, Douglas, Yuma and other Arizona border towns have remained essentially flat for the past decade, even as drug-related violence has spiraled out of control on the other side of the international line. Statewide, rates of violent crime also are down.
While smugglers have become more aggressive in their encounters with authorities, as evidenced by the shooting of a Pinal County deputy on Friday, allegedly by illegal-immigrant drug runners, they do not routinely target residents of border towns.
Read more: [Link: www.azcentral.com...]
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darthstar Sun, May 9, 2010 8:30:04am |
re: #618 Aceofwhat?
Hey dude. I had a fun chat with b_sharp and Nimed last night about faith. We'll have to do it again when you're around.
I'll go back and check out your thread.
Feh...it's pouring rain right now...so much for taking the dogs to the beach before meeting the folks for mother's day brunch.
Oh, and happy Mother's Day to you, Ace...and the rest of you mothers.
;)
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 8:31:18am |
re: #623 Cato the Elder
Hell is separation from God. This guy has already don all the work.
I would suspect he's already in hell of one sort or another. People don't develop those kinds of pathalogical behaviors without having undergone some serious trauma.
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 8:31:23am |
re: #622 sattv4u2
You shall know them by their fruits...
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 8:31:33am |
re: #621 marjoriemoon
He's been running TV ads pretty aggressively. And he has some nerve criticizing Obama's healthcare, the crook.
[Video]
That guy was partners with George W. in the Texas Rangers?!
What. A. Shock.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:31:47am |
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 8:32:34am |
re: #591 Dark_Falcon
Which adds a major reason as to why his mosque project should be stopped. I still stand by my explanation for his actions: Religious imperialism. He wants to put Islamic worship in a very public place, and slap some faces along the way.
A 9-11 firefighter called it "a Trojan horse" and wants to know where the $4.85 million in cash came from to purchase the building. Watch the video here.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:32:56am |
re: #630 sattv4u2
As my patron saint said
",,,on this side, so
tuenturn me over"pimf
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 8:34:30am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:35:23am |
re: #629 Sigma_x
That guy was partners with George W. in the Texas Rangers?!
What. A. Shock.
{sigh}
Can you please also work in a Haliburton reference!?!?
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:36:53am |
re: #633 Cato the Elder
He got the money selling Afghan poppies on street corners.
I think I have one hanging from my cars sun visor. Put a buck in a bucket at a red light and a guy with a funny hat on gave me one
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Mocking Jay Sun, May 9, 2010 8:36:56am |
re: #591 Dark_Falcon
Which adds a major reason as to why his mosque project should be stopped. I still stand by my explanation for his actions: Religious imperialism. He wants to put Islamic worship in a very public place, and slap some faces along the way.
So why didn't any Real Americans™ offer more money for the spot?
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 8:37:42am |
AG Holder is talking about asking congress to "modifying miranda warnings" to expand public safety exception, according to Jake Tapper on twitter.
Apparently once again Obama is caving into the like of Limbaugh, Beck, Guiliani et al.
"I think we have to give serious consideration to at least modifying that public-safety exception [to the Miranda protections]. And that's one of the things that I think we're going to be reaching out to Congress, to come up with a proposal that is both constitutional, but that is also relevant to our times and the threats that we now face."
So do you think they'll shut up now about how Obama is actually on the side of the terrorists?
Somehow I doubt it.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:38:57am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:40:31am |
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reloadingisnotahobby Sun, May 9, 2010 8:40:40am |
To all the lovely Lizardettes!!
Happy Mother Day !!
XOOX
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 8:40:45am |
re: #633 Cato the Elder
He got the money selling Afghan poppies on street corners.
That firefighter is Tim Brown and his brother started a website called thebravest.com. They posted his 9-11 story there.
On the morning of Sept. 11th, Tim Brown (one of the brothers who owns theBravest.com, Inc) had recently arrived at his office. Tim was working in a year and half long detail from FDNY’s Res3cue to the NYC Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management (OEM) located in 7 World Trade, when the first plane struck the World Trade Center tower. He immediately responded to the command post set up in the lobby of WTC Tower One. After the 2nd plane struck, he was directed to WTC Tower Two. There he attempted to set up and maintain some type of command structure in the chaos of the lobby.
While this was going on, Chris was at home on a day off from the firehouse, watching the events of that horrific morning unfold live on international news. Chris was unable to reach his brother, but he knew Tim's office was right next door to the WTC towers, and he knew his brother would be right there. He also knew from his brother's past experiences and his brother’s job’s responsibilities, that Tim would put himself in the towers, right in the thick of it. It wasn't an easy thing for Chris to watch, as the first tower collapsed and the news agencies spoke of all the people we'd just lost, all the firefighters and rescue personnel we'd just lost...
Just before the first collapse, Tim had exited the lobby of Tower 2 and gone across the street to gather up an EMS crew to assist the rescue efforts in the lobby of that tower. He was just re-entering the lobby with EMS when he heard the rumble and felt the earth move. Instinctively, he knew what was happening. He and the EMS crew scattered.
Chris sat at home, watching, as WTC Tower Two fell to the ground. He tried to call his brother, his best friend, the other half of theBravest.com. He tried to log on to theBravest.com for any information about what was really going on down there. But all internet connections in the area had gone down, including theBravest.com's servers. All he could do was watch, and pray.
[snip]
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:41:04am |
re: #639 drcordell
9-11 firefighters say lots of shit. Doesn't mean he has any credibility whatsoever.
OTOH, if anyone is allowed to say whatever the hell is on their mind without mincing words or using a PC filter, it's a 9-11 firefighter.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:41:32am |
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What, me worry? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:42:01am |
re: #624 PT Barnum
Guess all those scary Mexicans aren't coming over the border and committing crimes after all:
And guess what? The Arizona rancher killed in Southern Arizona may not have been an illegal Mexican immigrant after all!
[Link: azstarnet.com...]
The killing of a Southern Arizona rancher that sparked an outcry to secure the border was not random, and investigators are focusing on a suspect in the United States, the Arizona Daily Star has learned.
...
They said Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever is investigating a person in the United States, not in Mexico, in connection with the shooting.
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Semper Fi Sun, May 9, 2010 8:42:29am |
Good time for a little walk. It's very quiet outside. Lots of happy mom's I'm thinking. Have a nice day everyone and thanks.
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 8:42:46am |
re: #639 drcordell
9-11 firefighters say lots of shit. Doesn't mean he has any credibility whatsoever.
You really try hard to be a meaner-spirited son-of-a-bitch than I ever could, don't you?
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:42:47am |
re: #639 drcordell
9-11 firefighters say lots of shit. Doesn't mean he has any credibility whatsoever.
Yeah,, who gives a rats ass what a bunch of actual American hero's say!?!?
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 8:43:00am |
re: #639 drcordell
9-11 firefighters say lots of shit. Doesn't mean he has any credibility whatsoever.
I'll take a 9-11 FDNY firefighter's word over an imam any day.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:43:29am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:44:08am |
re: #647 Cato the Elder
You really try hard to be a meaner-spirited son-of-a-bitch than I ever could, don't you?
I think it just comes natural!
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 8:44:26am |
re: #648 sattv4u2
Yeah,, who gives a rats ass what a bunch of actual American hero's say!?!?
So just because a firefighter who happened to be a part of 9/11 starts spewing some dumb conspiracy bullshit, I have to give it weight?
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 8:45:31am |
re: #652 drcordell
So just because a firefighter who happened to be a part of 9/11 starts spewing some dumb conspiracy bullshit, I have to give it weight?
It's a mosque. There could never be anything conspiratorial about that, could there?
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 8:45:36am |
re: #643 Aceofwhat?
OTOH, if anyone is allowed to say whatever the hell is on their mind without mincing words or using a PC filter, it's a 9-11 firefighter.
Never said he wasn't allowed to say it. I'm just saying he has no idea what the fuck he's talking about.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:47:09am |
re: #655 drcordell
Never said he wasn't allowed to say it. I'm just saying he has no idea what the fuck he's talking about.
Sort of like ,,,well ,,, YOU!
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 8:47:13am |
re: #654 Cato the Elder
It's a mosque. There could never be anything conspiratorial about that, could there?
Jesus Christ. Yeah its a sekrit mooslem plot, right up there with their plot that got Obama put into the Presidency.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 8:47:32am |
re: #655 drcordell
Never said he wasn't allowed to say it. I'm just saying he has no idea what the fuck he's talking about.
I bet he knows a lot more about what goes on in NYC than you.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:48:08am |
re: #652 drcordell
So just because a firefighter who happened to be a part of 9/11 starts spewing some dumb conspiracy bullshit, I have to give it weight?
No. Rather, spend thirty seconds trying not to be an ass.
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 8:48:39am |
re: #658 NJDhockeyfan
I bet he knows a lot more about what goes on in NYC than you.
I'm in New York City right now, dipshit. And I work about 500 yards from Ground Zero. So, how about you shut your face?
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:48:39am |
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 8:50:21am |
re: #659 Aceofwhat?
No. Rather, spend thirty seconds trying not to be an ass.
All I said was that the occupation of the conspiracy theorist has no relevance to his theory about the Ground Zero mosque being a "trojan horse." And got an earful from 50 dimbulbs who think that 9/11 firefighters can't speak a false word.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 8:50:25am |
re: #660 drcordell
I'm in New York City right now, dipshit. And I work about 500 yards from Ground Zero. So, how about you shut your face?
I bet that firefighter has more knowledge about 9-11 and probably most other things in his right pinky than you ever will.
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Cato the Elder Sun, May 9, 2010 8:50:35am |
re: #660 drcordell
I'm in New York City right now, dipshit. And I work about 500 yards from Ground Zero. So, how about you shut your face?
You're off to a good start today.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 8:51:10am |
re: #660 drcordell
I'm in New York City right now, dipshit. And I work about 500 yards from Ground Zero. So, how about you shut your face?
So, what do you want, a cookie?
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:51:28am |
re: #657 drcordell
Jesus Christ. Yeah its a sekrit mooslem plot, right up there with their plot that got Obama put into the Presidency.
OTOH, anything that Alwaki wanted to be a part of is likely something that i want no part of.
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 8:51:55am |
re: #663 NJDhockeyfan
I bet that firefighter has more knowledge about 9-11 and probably most other things in his right pinky than you ever will.
And I would bet that you are wrong. I'm sure he's a very fine man. I'm sure he's great at what he does, which is fight fires. But that has little relevance to the discussion topic at hand.
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 8:53:07am |
re: #665 NJDhockeyfan
So, what do you want, a cookie?
No, I want you to maybe think for a second before telling me what I do, and don't, know.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:53:52am |
re: #662 drcordell
All I said was that the occupation of the conspiracy theorist has no relevance to his theory about the Ground Zero mosque being a "trojan horse." And got an earful from 50 dimbulbs who think that 9/11 firefighters can't speak a false word.
no, you got an earful from your betters who don't confuse being interested in what someone has to say with believing what they say.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 8:54:49am |
re: #667 drcordell
And I would bet that you are wrong. I'm sure he's a very fine man. I'm sure he's great at what he does, which is fight fires. But that has little relevance to the discussion topic at hand.
OK, if you are so fucking smart, where the $4.85 million in cash came from?
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 8:54:56am |
re: #662 drcordell
All I said was that the occupation of the conspiracy theorist has no relevance to his theory about the Ground Zero mosque being a "trojan horse." And got an earful from 50 dimbulbs who think that 9/11 firefighters can't speak a false word.
careful. i just scored the Post of the Beast. don't make me Mark you...
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 8:55:38am |
I can't remember who it was that asked on Friday what the amount of Census Workers being hired were included in the 293,000 jobs added in April. But the number was 66K.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:56:21am |
re: #671 NJDhockeyfan
OK, if you are so fucking smart, where the $4.85 million in cash came from?
bake sale?
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 8:59:27am |
re: #673 Sigma_x
I can't remember who it was that asked on Friday what the amount of Census Workers being hired were included in the 293,000 jobs added in April. But the number was 66K.
Yes, and it is a 60 day (calender days, not work days) position
Can't work more than 40 nours a week
Can't start prior to 8:30 a.m.
Can't work past sunset
reimbursed for mileage
day starts from the time you leave your house (not from the time you get to the 1st house your surveying) and ends when you get back to your house (not when you're finished with the last house your surveying).
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 8:59:59am |
re: #671 NJDhockeyfan
OK, if you are so fucking smart, where the $4.85 million in cash came from?
I'm not sure, but I'd be willing to bet that it's directly funded by oil money. Probably from Saudi Arabia.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 9:00:31am |
re: #676 drcordell
I'm not sure, but I'd be willing to bet that it's directly funded by oil money. Probably from Saudi Arabia.
BUSH ,,,HALIBURTON ,,,,
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:01:54am |
re: #677 sattv4u2
BUSH ,,,HALIBURTON ,,,
It's Halliburton there chief. And no, they aren't responsible. They had their hands busy incorrectly cementing the leaking BP oil well in the Gulf anyway.
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:03:13am |
re: #677 sattv4u2
BUSH ,,,HALIBURTON ,,,
And no, not American oil money. Saudi oil money. You know, the country that all of the 9/11 hijackers were from? The country where Osama Bin Laden's family gained their multi-billion dollar fortune.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 9:03:33am |
re: #673 Sigma_x
I can't remember who it was that asked on Friday what the amount of Census Workers being hired were included in the 293,000 jobs added in April. But the number was 66K.
I saw that too - agree.
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 9:03:43am |
re: #675 sattv4u2
Yes, and it is a 60 day (calender days, not work days) position
Can't work more than 40 nours a week
Can't start prior to 8:30 a.m.
Can't work past sunset
reimbursed for mileageday starts from the time you leave your house (not from the time you get to the 1st house your surveying) and ends when you get back to your house (not when you're finished with the last house your surveying).
Yeah, those are considered temporary positions. But the fact remains that there were 233K private sector jobs added in April - the most since 2006 and the biggest uptick since 1983. They also revised the numbers for February and March upwards 90K. So that's basically lets say 400K jobs added in 3 months, as opposed to the economy shedding over 600K jobs a month just a year ago.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 9:04:54am |
re: #681 drcordell
Why are all my posts double posting?
I only see one each. Been drinking this morning?
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 9:05:01am |
re: #682 Sigma_x
Yeah, those are considered temporary positions. But the fact remains that there were 233K private sector jobs added in April - the most since 2006 and the biggest uptick since 1983. They also revised the numbers for February and March upwards 90K. So that's basically lets say 400K jobs added in 3 months, as opposed to the economy shedding over 600K jobs a month just a year ago.
yet the unemployment rate ticked UP to 9.9 percent
I thought that the stimulus package was to ensure it wouldn't exceed 8 percent
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 9:05:29am |
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 9:06:15am |
The uptick in the unemployment rate was primarily due to discouraged workers trying to re-enter the job market. Remember, the unemployment rate reflects the amount of people who are actively looking for work and can't find a job.
Regardless - all that shit is about to come crashing back down again in spectacular fashion.
This sovereign debt crisis has the potential to make the sub-prime mess seem like the good old days.
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:06:41am |
re: #683 NJDhockeyfan
I only see one each. Been drinking this morning?
Not yet, but I'm about to. Heading to brunch at the Breslin, April Bloomfields new spot. Better than the Spotted Pig IMHO. Plus there's a Stumptown Coffee adjacent.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 9:06:54am |
re: #682 Sigma_x
Yeah, those are considered temporary positions. But the fact remains that there were 233K private sector jobs added in April - the most since 2006 and the biggest uptick since 1983. They also revised the numbers for February and March upwards 90K. So that's basically lets say 400K jobs added in 3 months, as opposed to the economy shedding over 600K jobs a month just a year ago.
And the unemployment rate went up to 9.9%. Let's throw a party!
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Vambo Sun, May 9, 2010 9:07:19am |
What's this about more jobs? CEOs have decided they don't want to give anyone jobs:
[Link: blogs.hbr.org...]
"They've decided that we've touched bottom, or they wouldn't be talking to me," he said. "They're starting to think about growing their businesses again." Welcome news, but not what followed."But boy, I don't see employment coming back, not for years. My clients were amazed by how much productivity they could squeeze out of their people in the downturn. They're not going to start hiring again — well, maybe temps or contract workers, but not regular, full-time employees." As if to punctuate the thought he added, chillingly, "In fact, the CEOs are mad at their middle managers for not having eliminated more jobs earlier."
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:07:30am |
re: #684 sattv4u2
yet the unemployment rate ticked UP to 9.9 percent
I thought that the stimulus package was to ensure it wouldn't exceed 8 percent
So you're saying the stimulus package failed because it lowered unemployment, but not as much as we had hoped? Where would unemployment be without it?
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 9:07:45am |
re: #684 sattv4u2
yet the unemployment rate ticked UP to 9.9 percent
I thought that the stimulus package was to ensure it wouldn't exceed 8 percent
Nobody and I mean nobody had any actual idea of the severity of the crisis back in January of last year.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 9:07:50am |
re: #684 sattv4u2
yet the unemployment rate ticked UP to 9.9 percent
I thought that the stimulus package was to ensure it wouldn't exceed 8 percent
Minor detail. The numbers promised in the heath care bill are spot on though.
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:09:24am |
re: #692 NJDhockeyfan
Minor detail. The numbers promised in the heath care bill are spot on though.
So, let me get this straight. The stimulus is a failure because the economic implosion that occurred under Bush was so severe that Obama's stimulus package was only able to stop the unemployment drop at 9.9%?
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 9:10:38am |
re: #688 NJDhockeyfan
And the unemployment rate went up to 9.9%. Let's throw a party!
If the republicans had won in '08, and we did what they wanted to do in terms of legislation to address the economy - which was essentially nothing; let the free-market work itself out - you'd be looking at bread lines from coast to coast right now.
It's enough to keep me up at night thinking what could've happened if McCain and that mongoloid harpy had won the election.
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:10:41am |
re: #691 Sigma_x
Nobody and I mean nobody had any actual idea of the severity of the crisis back in January of last year.
But, but, but, Obamar wasn't able to successfully predict what the unemployment rate would be one year after the stimulus package! That means it's a complete and utter failure, don't you get it?
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 9:10:46am |
re: #690 drcordell
So you're saying the stimulus package failed because it lowered unemployment, but not as much as we had hoped? Where would unemployment be without it?
ummm,,, where did it "lower unemployment (aside from the public sector ,, ,i.e gov't jobs)"?
Prior to the stimulus, it was in the high 6/ low 7 percentages. Obama stated we needed the stimulus to keep it no higher than 8 percent
It now stands at 9.9 percent
Math wasn't your strong subject, was it
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:11:46am |
re: #696 sattv4u2
ummm,,, where did it "lower unemployment (aside from the public sector ,, ,i.e gov't jobs)"?
Prior to the stimulus, it was in the high 6/ low 7 percentages. Obama stated we needed the stimulus to keep it no higher than 8 percent
It now stands at 9.9 percent
Math wasn't your strong subject, was it
You just can't wrap your head about this, can you? Think about how fucking awful unemployment would be if we didn't do anything at all. You think it would be at 9.9%?
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:12:20am |
re: #694 Sigma_x
If the republicans had won in '08, and we did what they wanted to do in terms of legislation to address the economy - which was essentially nothing; let the free-market work itself out - you'd be looking at bread lines from coast to coast right now.
It's enough to keep me up at night thinking what could've happened if McCain and that mongoloid harpy had won the election.
Seriously. It's absolutely terrifying.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 9:13:48am |
re: #693 drcordell
So, let me get this straight. The stimulus is a failure because the economic implosion that occurred under Bush was so severe that Obama's stimulus package was only able to stop the unemployment drop at 9.9%?
What's the expiration date on the tired It's Bush's Fault™ excuse? I recall George Bush inheriting a recession from Bill Clinton and not once did he blame Clinton for a bad economy when he started.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 9:14:04am |
re: #697 drcordell
You just can't wrap your head about this, can you? Think about how fucking awful unemployment would be if we didn't do anything at all. You think it would be at 9.9%?
I think if we didn't burden companies with an upcoming mandated health ins leg (one which they ase trying to figure out the implications, therefore holding the line on hiring), if we had cut corporate taxes and if we didn't piss TRILLIONS into a "stimulus" the employment rates would be better
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:15:10am |
re: #700 sattv4u2
I think if we didn't burden companies with an upcoming mandated health ins leg (one which they ase trying to figure out the implications, therefore holding the line on hiring), if we had cut corporate taxes and if we didn't piss TRILLIONS into a "stimulus" the employment rates would be better
And that's why you work in television and not economics. Because you have no idea what you are talking about. Cutting corporate taxes? Really? I'm not even going to further this discussion with you because it's clearly futile.
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 9:16:22am |
re: #697 drcordell
You just can't wrap your head about this, can you? Think about how fucking awful unemployment would be if we didn't do anything at all. You think it would be at 9.9%?
Just so no one thinks I'm drinking any kool-aid, the "real" unemployment number is probably closer to 16%, and when you factor in the under-employed, it's more like 23%. It is what it is - you can't expect 50 years of free-wheelin' unrestricted partying on one big credit card to be sorted out in a couple of years time and with one stimulus package. We're going to see a lot more pain before the picture gets better.
Now, having said that, I will also add that, clearly, Obama can't win either way - if the market goes up and economic indicators show improvement, according to the right, it's in spite of Obama and would've happened anyway... if the market crashes and leading indicators show a drop, well, then it's obviously all his fault.
"You can't win, Rocky. You can't win."
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 9:17:49am |
re: #676 drcordell
I'm not sure...
That's all I need to read. Stop blasting the firefighter if you don't have the answers yourself.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 9:18:17am |
re: #701 drcordell
And that's why you work in television and not economics. Because you have no idea what you are talking about. Cutting corporate taxes? Really? I'm not even going to further this discussion with you because it's clearly futile.
yet cutting those taxes has worked EACH AND EVERY TIME
See Kennedy, John ,,, Reagan, Ronald ,,, Bush, George
eash time the economy grew AND employment went up
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:18:26am |
re: #699 NJDhockeyfan
What's the expiration date on the tired It's Bush's Fault™ excuse? I recall George Bush inheriting a recession from Bill Clinton and not once did he blame Clinton for a bad economy when he started.
There is no fucking expiration date on facts. You're seriously debating that the worst economic meltdown since 1929 didn't happen because of Bush's economic policies. Just wanted to get that one on the record.
Second, Bush fucking WHINED ABOUT CLINTON every chance he got. Want some examples, Mr. Short Term Memory?
[Link: money.cnn.com...]
[Link: www.salon.com...]
[Link: www.perrspectives.com...]
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:20:32am |
re: #704 sattv4u2
yet cutting those taxes has worked EACH AND EVERY TIME
See Kennedy, John ,,, Reagan, Ronald ,,, Bush, George
eash time the economy grew AND employment went up
Yes, George Bush did SUCH wonders to our economy! Amazing economic growth under his Presidency. Wow you are really good for a laugh. Fucking incredible that you can be fed such tripe and keep going back for more, and more and more.
Let me ask you this, economically under the Bush Presidency how did you fare? Did your real wage growth outpace inflation?
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 9:21:57am |
re: #701 drcordell
And that's why you work in television and not economics. Because you have no idea what you are talking about. Cutting corporate taxes? Really? I'm not even going to further this discussion with you because it's clearly futile.
Do you work in Economics? I know you work downtown NY..What do you think about the 1000 point drop the other day? I was at home blogging in real time going I've never seen anything like this in my life...Now Fox is touting a huge conspiracy theory..As usual jumping the Shark for viewership
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:22:20am |
re: #703 NJDhockeyfan
That's all I need to read. Stop blasting the firefighter if you don't have the answers yourself.
And what evidence does the firefighter have to back his conspiracy theory up? Oh, none? Shocking!
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 9:22:49am |
re: #706 drcordell
Yes, George Bush did SUCH wonders to our economy! Amazing economic growth under his Presidency. Wow you are really good for a laugh. Fucking incredible that you can be fed such tripe and keep going back for more, and more and more.
Let me ask you this, economically under the Bush Presidency how did you fare? Did your real wage growth outpace inflation?
Seeing how inflation was virtually flat between 2002 and 2007 and my wages increased by more than that rate each and every year,. and seeing how my wage increases at least to inflation rates for 2008. 09 and 10
YES !
But thanks for playing
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 9:25:41am |
re: #707 HoosierHoops
Do you work in Economics?
He doesn't work in the broadcast/ TV business, which to this day he is bitter
Just ask him ,,, go ahead ,, I dare you!
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 9:26:40am |
And on that note,,, son is making us Belgian Waffles for brunch
Heading downstairs to make sure nothing catches fire!
| 712 |
NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 9:28:02am |
re: #706 drcordell
Yes, George Bush did SUCH wonders to our economy! Amazing economic growth under his Presidency. Wow you are really good for a laugh. Fucking incredible that you can be fed such tripe and keep going back for more, and more and more.
Let me ask you this, economically under the Bush Presidency how did you fare? Did your real wage growth outpace inflation?
Mine did.
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Vambo Sun, May 9, 2010 9:28:11am |
GW Bush's tax cuts were not payed for in the budget, among other things, hence the deficit.
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 9:28:37am |
Anyway, I really hope you people are preparing yourselves for what's about to come down the pike. If you have your money tied up in 401K's or IRA's, I would seriously consider going to cash, instead.
I firmly believe that, after a slight relief rally this week due to Europe taking action this weekend on Greece and on the Euro, we're going to see a take-your-breath-away drop in the market.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 9:28:50am |
re: #708 drcordell
And what evidence does the firefighter have to back his conspiracy theory up? Oh, none? Shocking!
Why don't you go down to the firehouse and ask him in person? You are in NYC, aren't you?
| 716 |
The Left Sun, May 9, 2010 9:29:19am |
I assume this has been talked about already...
Tea party wins victory in Utah as incumbent GOP senator loses bid for nomination
"That the Tea Party would consider Bob Bennett -- one of the most conservative members of the U.S. Senate -- too liberal just goes to show how extreme the Tea Party is," Timothy M. Kaine, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said in a statement. "This is just the latest battle in the corrosive Republican intra-party civil war . . . If there was any question before, there should now be no doubt that the Republican leadership has handed the reins to the Tea Party."
Not cool.
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:30:42am |
re: #707 HoosierHoops
Do you work in Economics? I know you work downtown NY..What do you think about the 1000 point drop the other day? I was at home blogging in real time going I've never seen anything like this in my life...Now Fox is touting a huge conspiracy theory..As usual jumping the Shark for viewership
I was at the NYSE watching it unfold. There's no conspiracy other than the fact that the Banksters were allowed to completely hijack the capital markets with high frequency trading. On any given day at the NYSE, 60% of volume is made up of HFT, and of that 60% the majority will be from less than 5 firms. They've successfully forced out regular market makers in securities on every exchange. So all that is left are the robots. And when they all decide to pull their bids at the same time (which is exactly what happened) the market crashes.
Now, the NYSE will have you believe that they offer better protections against this sort of thing because they have human Direct Market Makers on the floor. Except with Regulation NMS, they are effectively useless. When the NYSE DMM's stepped in during the free-fall and briefly paused trading on affected securities, the NYSE systems will stop responding to requests for quotes from automated trading systems. Those systems then simply proceed to route their order flow to any other trading facility that is still quoting. And that is exactly what happened. All the order flow simply bypassed the NYSE and went to Arca, NASDAQ and BATS which simply kept gapping their quotes lower and lower and lower as the frenzy continued.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 9:31:38am |
re: #714 Sigma_x
Anyway, I really hope you people are preparing yourselves for what's about to come down the pike. If you have your money tied up in 401K's or IRA's, I would seriously consider going to cash, instead.
I firmly believe that, after a slight relief rally this week due to Europe taking action this weekend on Greece and on the Euro, we're going to see a take-your-breath-away drop in the market.
twofold problem with that
1) If you cash out a 401 K or IRA, the tax implications for early withdrawal
2) "cash" in of itself is also losing value
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 9:32:54am |
re: #717 drcordell
So do you think a trader entered Billions instead of Millions in the P&G trade?
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The Left Sun, May 9, 2010 9:33:06am |
re: #718 sattv4u2
twofold problem with that
1) If you cash out a 401 K or IRA, the tax implications for early withdrawal
Depends on just how big the drop will be though, right? That's what's scary.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 9:33:17am |
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darthstar Sun, May 9, 2010 9:33:22am |
re: #706 drcordell
Let me ask you this, economically under the Bush Presidency how did you fare? Did your real wage growth outpace inflation?
I can answer that! During the bush years, my salary went up (between 2002 and 2008, anyway) about 12% - one bump of 3%, and two bumps of 2% and 4% - but total salary difference was 12%. Since 2009, my salary's gone up 20% (15% for taking a new job in September, and an additional 5% last week)...
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 9:33:33am |
re: #657 drcordell
Jesus Christ. Yeah its a sekrit mooslem plot, right up there with their plot that got Obama put into the Presidency.
Did you see those TV specials in the UK, about what is said and read in extremist mosques? Given their nasty track record, I'm kind of loath to have them in a prime area of downtown Manhattan.
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 9:34:20am |
re: #720 iceweasel
Depends on just how big the drop will be though, right? That's what's scary.
What's cooking good looking? Did you call mommy today?
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 9, 2010 9:34:42am |
re: #720 iceweasel
Depends on just how big the drop will be though, right? That's what's scary.
For someone thats veru close ( within 2-3 years) of retirement, yes
But long term, I would suggest don't EVEN look at your 401 K statements and weather the storm
| 726 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 9:35:48am |
re: #705 drcordell
Keep flinging the insults, cordell. I got another half an hour to downding your liberal ass.
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The Left Sun, May 9, 2010 9:36:56am |
re: #724 HoosierHoops
What's cooking good looking? Did you call mommy today?
hey honey! How are you today?
I'm afraid my mother passed on when I was a wee iceweasel, so, no.
Dark Falcon--congrats on your sister's health! So glad to hear that.
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:37:06am |
At the end of the day, what needs to happen in my opinion is a moratorium on HFT. That, or all purely electronic markets need to implement some sort of Liquidity Replenishment Point (LRP) system similar to that at the NYSE. Because right now, even if the NASDAQ and NYSE paused trading in a freefalling stock to allow a human to aggregate interest and properly price it, the frenzy would not be stopped. All it takes is a single Alternative Execution Facility such as BATS to continue trading and the panic continues.
And ultimately, the NYSE is a chief culprit in the problem. They have actively solicited HFT order flow through their use of rebates for "supplemental liquidity providers." In essence, they make it profitable for large banks such as Goldman to simply churn as much order flow as they can through the NYSE, even if the trades are profiting .01 cent each. Because they offer a rebate that discounts the NYSE's normal trading fees, this becomes profitable. The NYSE claims this "adds liquidity" to the markets, which technically is true. Except it's only there when the huge banks are able to make a profit by essentially taxing actual investors trying to accumulate positions in a stock. When all of the HFT robots decide to head for the exits and pull their quotes, you get what happened Thursday.
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Vambo Sun, May 9, 2010 9:38:01am |
re: #705 drcordell
[Link: money.cnn.com...]
"Bush says he inherited recession"
LOL... actually, maybe he did... from Reagan!
| 730 |
darthstar Sun, May 9, 2010 9:38:04am |
re: #716 iceweasel
I assume this has been talked about already...
Tea party wins victory in Utah as incumbent GOP senator loses bid for nomination
Not cool.
While I do think this isn't good news for the Republican party as a whole (now they'll all be running to the right to appease the teabaggers), I think the scariest thing about this is what happens if the Tea Party people somehow get into the majority (not that it will happen this year, but in the next cycle or two). Can you imagine how these freaks will govern?
| 731 |
drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:38:22am |
re: #719 HoosierHoops
So do you think a trader entered Billions instead of Millions in the P&G trade?
Nope, that's a pile of shit. Nobody has found evidence of any sort of "fat finger" trade along those lines. And frankly, even if that was the case, that alone should not be enough to trigger a selloff so massive to crash the Dow 1,000 points.
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 9:39:04am |
re: #727 iceweasel
hey honey! How are you today?
I'm afraid my mother passed on when I was a wee iceweasel, so, no.Dark Falcon--congrats on your sister's health! So glad to hear that.
That sucks..My Mom passed from Cancer on Valentines day a few years back..
( Psss.I put her top billing on the prayer list this morning..She shaped my life)
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webevintage Sun, May 9, 2010 9:39:38am |
"Manufacturing did exceptionally well, adding 44000 jobs, the biggest one-month gain in the sector since August 1998"
[Link: money.cnn.com...]
Just throwing that out there...
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 9:40:19am |
re: #716 iceweasel
I assume this has been talked about already...
Tea party wins victory in Utah as incumbent GOP senator loses bid for nomination
Not cool.
yup. not cool, indeed.
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The Left Sun, May 9, 2010 9:40:25am |
re: #732 HoosierHoops
That sucks..My Mom passed from Cancer on Valentines day a few years back..
( Psss.I put her top billing on the prayer list this morning..She shaped my life)
I remember your lovely Valentine's post about her. Off to find the prayer list and upding you Hoops!
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:40:39am |
re: #723 Dark_Falcon
Did you see those TV specials in the UK, about what is said and read in extremist mosques? Given their nasty track record, I'm kind of loath to have them in a prime area of downtown Manhattan.
Because you can compare the extremist preachers on a UK TV special to the preacher at this mosque. That's like me conflating every church with that lunatic who pickets outside of soldiers funerals claiming God loves IED's.
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Vambo Sun, May 9, 2010 9:40:45am |
re: #730 darthstar
Can you imagine how these freaks will govern?
I imagine a heapin' helpin' of anarcho-capitalism with a side of theocratic big-government tyranny.
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Vambo Sun, May 9, 2010 9:41:52am |
re: #733 webevintage
"Manufacturing did exceptionally well, adding 44000 jobs, the biggest one-month gain in the sector since August 1998"
[Link: money.cnn.com...]
Just throwing that out there...
SHUSH!!! you are ruining the meme!
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:41:59am |
re: #730 darthstar
While I do think this isn't good news for the Republican party as a whole (now they'll all be running to the right to appease the teabaggers), I think the scariest thing about this is what happens if the Tea Party people somehow get into the majority (not that it will happen this year, but in the next cycle or two). Can you imagine how these freaks will govern?
With no interest in actual governance, and maximum pillaging of the government for personal economic gain. Kind of like how the Teabagger leadership has done nothing but enrich themselves on the backs of the poor rubes who support them.
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The Left Sun, May 9, 2010 9:42:07am |
re: #730 darthstar
While I do think this isn't good news for the Republican party as a whole (now they'll all be running to the right to appease the teabaggers), I think the scariest thing about this is what happens if the Tea Party people somehow get into the majority (not that it will happen this year, but in the next cycle or two). Can you imagine how these freaks will govern?
Yeah, exactly. Nightmare.
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darthstar Sun, May 9, 2010 9:43:58am |
re: #733 webevintage
"Manufacturing did exceptionally well, adding 44000 jobs, the biggest one-month gain in the sector since August 1998"
[Link: money.cnn.com...]
Just throwing that out there...
Jobs numbers were good across the board last month. Unemployment's uptick was due to more people reentering the workforce market (honestly, how they calculate those numbers is sometimes beyond me). Another two or three months of this kind of jobs creation and the GOP will be praying for some kind of international incident they can harp about going into the elections...otherwise, they'll have to recycle their platform of god, guns, gays, and fetuses to get their base to vote.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 9:43:59am |
re: #727 iceweasel
hey honey! How are you today?
I'm afraid my mother passed on when I was a wee iceweasel, so, no.Dark Falcon--congrats on your sister's health! So glad to hear that.
Thanks, ice.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 9:44:30am |
re: #730 darthstar
While I do think this isn't good news for the Republican party as a whole (now they'll all be running to the right to appease the teabaggers), I think the scariest thing about this is what happens if the Tea Party people somehow get into the majority (not that it will happen this year, but in the next cycle or two). Can you imagine how these freaks will govern?
Call me blind, but i just don't think that can happen. My folks, both perfectly smart, NYT-reading center-right folks, have no idea who Rand Paul is. They think Rubio is a disgrace. I'll bet they're representative of millions of folks in each state.
String together a few wins across states, give the Rand Pauls a little airtime, and all of a sudden the center-right is going to realize that the crazy is more widespread than they realized...at which point it'll snap back to the middle.
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 9:44:55am |
re: #731 drcordell
Nope, that's a pile of shit. Nobody has found evidence of any sort of "fat finger" trade along those lines. And frankly, even if that was the case, that alone should not be enough to trigger a selloff so massive to crash the Dow 1,000 points.
Well first you said there was no conspiracy.. Then an accident is a pile a shit..
So what the heck do you think happened?
In your view from inside..I promise not to attack your version...I have never seen anything like it.
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 9:45:25am |
re: #721 sattv4u2
re: #718 sattv4u2
pimf
OUTTA HERE!
And, I don't know if you've been following recent currency action, but the dollar is doing incredibly well against almost every major currency in the world, at the moment.
Sort of a "world's tallest midget" type deal.
But there's way around any future drop in the dollar - you could go to cash, and switch it over to an other currency that's presently being beaten up, and if you expect it to rebound against the dollar in the next several years, you'd be doing good. Like, for instance, the Euro might actually get even with the dollar in the next year or so - but rebound from there significantly as the dollar faces the challenges it's sure to face. If you bought Euros with your dollars when they're at parity, then wait till the Euro goes back up to 1.30-1.50 to switch back, you'd be up a substantial amount.
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avanti Sun, May 9, 2010 9:45:47am |
Looks like the GOP intends to use the immigration issue for local gains.
"But candidates like Tim James, Nathan Deal and Andre Bauer are probably not very worried about the possibility of the national GOP alienating Hispanic voters for years to come; they are trying desperately to win primary elections in an atmosphere of great conservative enthusiasm where it’s tough to stand out from the Obama-hating, states-rights-loving crowd. The Arizona furor gives them a weapon to use, and they’ll use it, with any negative consequences for their party elsewhere or down the road being so minor a consideration that it may not even occur to them. "
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 9:46:07am |
re: #736 drcordell
Because you can compare the extremist preachers on a UK TV special to the preacher at this mosque. That's like me conflating every church with that lunatic who pickets outside of soldiers funerals claiming God loves IED's.
Not so. The asshole in question has made excuses for jihadists and told lies about the West. In my eyes he is a practitioner of the 'soft jihad' and should be considered an enemy, though not a violent one himself.
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 9:46:43am |
re: #746 Sigma_x
And, I don't know if you've been following recent currency action, but the dollar is doing incredibly well against almost every major currency in the world, at the moment.
Sort of a "world's tallest midget" type deal.
But there's way around any future drop in the dollar - you could go to cash, and switch it over to an other currency that's presently being beaten up, and if you expect it to rebound against the dollar in the next several years, you'd be doing good. Like, for instance, the Euro might actually get even with the dollar in the next year or so - but rebound from there significantly as the dollar faces the challenges it's sure to face. If you bought Euros with your dollars when they're at parity, then wait till the Euro goes back up to 1.30-1.50 to switch back, you'd be up a substantial amount.
I know a guy who actually financed his mortgage in japanese yen. The thinking being that the yen is going to get clobbered in the next several years and it'll be cheaper to pay back.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, May 9, 2010 9:47:14am |
re: #736 drcordell
Because you can compare the extremist preachers on a UK TV special to the preacher at this mosque. That's like me conflating every church with that lunatic who pickets outside of soldiers funerals claiming God loves IED's.
No, oh ye of low wattage, this is THE mosque desired by THE guy over there chanting 'death to america'.
you dislike the one church which the extremists built, right? well, this is that one church. try to keep up.
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darthstar Sun, May 9, 2010 9:48:43am |
re: #744 Aceofwhat?
String together a few wins across states, give the Rand Pauls a little airtime, and all of a sudden the center-right is going to realize that the crazy is more widespread than they realized...at which point it'll snap back to the middle.
Yes, but the middle has a tendency to move to the right to balance the extremes. This is a relatively slow process...but moving faster this cycle than it has since Reagan left office. Snapping back to the middle, at this point, puts people like Bob Dole left of center.
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drcordell Sun, May 9, 2010 9:49:13am |
re: #745 HoosierHoops
Well first you said there was no conspiracy.. Then an accident is a pile a shit..
So what the heck do you think happened?
In your view from inside..I promise not to attack your version...I have never seen anything like it.
It's not a "conspiracy" because the markets functioned exactly how they have been designed to function for the past several years. The fact that this entire thing was blamed on a "fat finger" is somebody (not sure who) trying to convince people that there's nothing wrong with the current system.
The banks don't want the average investor to realize that the capital markets have essentially become a giant casino, with stocks instead of colored chips. When it's algorithmic computers generating 60% of the daily volume, churning stocks for a rebate no matter which way the market is trading, fundamentals become irrelevant.
Actual investors attempting to legitimately purchase a stock they believe is a good long-term investment are essentially nickel and dimed by the algos who repeatedly jump ahead of them to purchase shares, and then sell them for .01 cent higher (if not more).
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 9:49:37am |
re: #731 drcordell
Nope, that's a pile of shit. Nobody has found evidence of any sort of "fat finger" trade along those lines. And frankly, even if that was the case, that alone should not be enough to trigger a selloff so massive to crash the Dow 1,000 points.
You're absolutely right - the main point of contention is that the drop started with a trade in the S&P e-mini futures, of which the most you can trade at any one time is 2K contracts. So that, right on the face of it, is a big steaming pile of horseshit.
What it was was a whole mess of people trying to cram out of one exit door at the same time. That was just a taste of things to come.
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The Left Sun, May 9, 2010 9:52:12am |
re: #742 darthstar
Jobs numbers were good across the board last month. Unemployment's uptick was due to more people reentering the workforce market (honestly, how they calculate those numbers is sometimes beyond me). Another two or three months of this kind of jobs creation and the GOP will be praying for some kind of international incident they can harp about going into the elections...otherwise, they'll have to recycle their platform of god, guns, gays, and fetuses to get their base to vote.
Regardless of what happens with the economy, expect the GOP to run on the god, gays, and fetuses platform. There will most certainly also be lots of yapping about terrorism/security, largely of the bullshit variety. That's all they got and they've demonstrated that it's their old playbook anyway.
A bad economy will contribute (as ever) to anti-incumbent sentiment. This will mean dem losses no matter what.
The teabaggers are mad as hell but also ignorant as hell, so it's hard to say what events in the real world will affect their 'movement'. Most of them believe (incorrectly) that their taxes have gone up, after all. And we know that a not-unsizeable portion of them are, quite simply, motivated by Fear of a Barack Planet: they are afraid of/hate the black muslim kenyan in the WH.
Consequently, the GOP's best electoral hope (in terms of harnassing the power of the teabag) is to encourage them to remain angry and scared.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 9, 2010 9:52:59am |
re: #747 avanti
Looks like the GOP intends to use the immigration issue for local gains.
"But candidates like Tim James, Nathan Deal and Andre Bauer are probably not very worried about the possibility of the national GOP alienating Hispanic voters for years to come; they are trying desperately to win primary elections in an atmosphere of great conservative enthusiasm where it’s tough to stand out from the Obama-hating, states-rights-loving crowd. The Arizona furor gives them a weapon to use, and they’ll use it, with any negative consequences for their party elsewhere or down the road being so minor a consideration that it may not even occur to them. "
Short term gain, long term pain. That's a frequent theme of politics. Its a sad but inevitable byproduct of terms of office.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, May 9, 2010 9:53:02am |
Lefty Matthew Yglesias blogger posts about left vs right on economics...
According to Zeljka Buturovic and Dan Klein, people who self-identify as “progressive” have low levels of economic knowledge whereas those who self-identify as “libertarian” or “very conservative” rank very highly. For reasons suggested by Tyler Cowen, I think that conclusion is nonsense. But I do think they have the goods on the fact that people who self-identify with the left have some trouble grasping the interplay of prices and supply restrictions. Todd Zywicky pulls out these facts:
—67% of self-described Progressives believe that restrictions on housing development (i.e., regulations that reduce the supply of housing) do not make housing less affordable.
—51% believe that mandatory licensing of professionals (i.e., reducing the supply of professionals) doesn’t increase the cost of professional services.
—Perhaps most amazing, 79% of self-described Progressive believe that rent control (i.e., price controls) does not lead to housing shortages.
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 9:55:15am |
re: #753 Sigma_x
You're absolutely right - the main point of contention is that the drop started with a trade in the S&P e-mini futures, of which the most you can trade at any one time is 2K contracts. So that, right on the face of it, is a big steaming pile of horseshit.
What it was was a whole mess of people trying to cram out of one exit door at the same time. That was just a taste of things to come.
I was sitting here on Vacation when the market dropped on TV..Out of the blue...I have never seen anything like it...Thanks for you guys viewpoint on the market...I still think somebody punched in a billion instead of a million..But who knows..Very interesting...I know enterprise Databases have instant rollback features...So in 5 secs you would capture a transaction into a report and be printing out somewhere...Interesting
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 9:56:41am |
You want to know what happened on Thursday? This guy spells it out in layman's terms that anyone could understand.
Say what you want about him, but he's actually pretty spot-on in his assessment.
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The Left Sun, May 9, 2010 9:57:36am |
re: #756 NJDhockeyfan
Lefty Matthew Yglesias blogger posts about left vs right on economics...
You probably should have read the rest of that:
Zywicki, trying to make mountains out of molehills, calls the results “startling.” Speaking as someone who doesn’t believe any of those things and who actually writes on two of these issues frequently, I’m not even slightly surprised. I find the situation unfortunate, which is one reason I write on these topics. He then gets sarcastic and says “Apparently the existence of a ‘consensus’ among trained scholars on certain policy issues is less important on some issues than others.”
As best I can tell, his argument is that because many rank-and-file progressives have mistaken ideas about economics, it’s okay for conservatives to have wrong ideas about climate science. But I don’t understand why anyone would think that. It’s important for people to have the right ideas! Inability to see that supply-restrictions on housing raise the price of housing is a big problem. Inability to see that carbon dioxide emissions are leading to ecological catastrophe is a big problem. The good news about progressives is that actual policymaking in, for example, the Obama administration is not based on elementary errors of economic policy. Larry Summers, Peter Orszag, Tim Geithner and their key deputies all understand the situation perfectly well as do leading progressive political commentators like Paul Krugman. Unfortunately, the situation with climate science and the right is by no means parallel in this regard.
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Digital Display Sun, May 9, 2010 10:01:13am |
re: #759 iceweasel
It's the end of the world.. I got #1 comment today about..Wait for it...
Wait for it..
Scientists...
Thank you lizards...
/I'm so going to brag to Phil about this
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Sigma_x Sun, May 9, 2010 10:02:00am |
You guys want to see what it looked like, the actual cause of the drop?
It right here in all its terrifying beauty.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, May 9, 2010 10:40:50am |
re: #742 darthstar
Jobs numbers were good across the board last month. Unemployment's uptick was due to more people reentering the workforce market (honestly, how they calculate those numbers is sometimes beyond me). Another two or three months of this kind of jobs creation and the GOP will be praying for some kind of international incident they can harp about going into the elections...otherwise, they'll have to recycle their platform of god, guns, gays, and fetuses to get their base to vote.
There's been a fair amount of speculation that the Tea Party movement will dissolve once the economy turns around and they all have jobs to go to.
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