Sen. James Inhofe talks with Bryan Fischer of Donald Wildmon’s American Family Association (previously featured at LGF for advocating that Muslims be banned from the US military).
In addition to being an old school theocrat and climate change denier, Sen. Inhofe wants to protect the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy, because he’s concerned that soldiers won’t want to fight for fellow soldiers if they’re gay.
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 1:53:10pm |
Soldiers in Inhofe’s America - bravely putting their lives on the line for their fellow Americans. Well, the ones that ain’t gay. Sheesh.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, May 13, 2010 1:53:38pm |
I’ve never heard any soldier or Marine say this.
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 1:53:40pm |
“We’re not doing it for the flag or the country we’re doing it for the guy in the next foxhole.”
/Its nice to know that according to this man, our brave men and women are out there every day oversees defending each other’s asses.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 1:55:00pm |
He can’t be serious.
That’s the outrageous outrage of the day.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, May 13, 2010 1:55:41pm |
All of them? That’s a lot of people to be speaking for with one sentence.
Oh, it can be done, but usually it’s a bit more obvious than this.
Try:
“My neighbors do not wish a child molester to move in.” Pretty safe there.
“Shoppers love free samples.” Never found a shopper that disagreed.
I’m sure there is at least one soldier for whom this is true, and at least one for whom it is not.
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researchok Thu, May 13, 2010 1:57:01pm |
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 1:57:05pm |
is he a veteran?…any anecdotal evidence for making this claim?…polls?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, May 13, 2010 1:57:10pm |
re: #4 jamesfirecat
“We’re not doing it for the flag or the country we’re doing it for the guy in the next foxhole.”
Fill the military branches up with nothing but atheists, then they’ll have nothing to worry about and no one to cover, because apparently there are no atheists in any fox holes.
/
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DaddyG Thu, May 13, 2010 1:57:40pm |
Somewhere right now there is a homosexual soldier giving up his life defending Senator Inhofe’s right to utter such remarkably vapid idiocy.
Oo-rah!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 13, 2010 1:58:25pm |
Okay. That makes absolutely no sense.
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recusancy Thu, May 13, 2010 1:58:39pm |
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 1:58:56pm |
because he’s concerned that soldiers won’t want to fight for fellow soldiers if they’re gay.
Well that’s untrue. My husband knew who was gay in his troop (there weren’t many). So did others. It never mattered one iota.
Funny name, American Family Association, since the American Way is letting everyone who is eligible serve their country.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 1:59:03pm |
re: #3 Obdicut
I’ve never heard any soldier or Marine say this.
Now you have…”Inhofe was born in Des Moines, Iowa and moved with his family to Tulsa, Oklahoma, when he was a child. He was a member of the Class of 1953 at Tulsa Central High School,[1] and served in the United States Army from 1957 to 1958.[2][3]”
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
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Gus Thu, May 13, 2010 1:59:15pm |
I’m curious. Inhofe’s biography states that he was in the Army from 1957 to 1958 or one year. That seems like a rather short stint. According to other sources in addition to only serving one year he never made rank above private and never left US soil.
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researchok Thu, May 13, 2010 1:59:29pm |
re: #8 albusteve
is he a veteran?…any anecdotal evidence for making this claim?…polls?
He’s a politician- he thinks everyone is dumber than he is.
Fact is, most who serve are a lot smarter. DADT isn’t something they spend a whole lot of time on. They have more important issues to deal with.
Inhofe would be a lot more credible if he talked about soldier pay, benefits and health care.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 2:00:06pm |
Maybe it’s naivete on my part, but I have a hard time believing that even the most die-hard homophobe would use that as a reason to fail to defend a fellow soldier.
Has Inhofe never seen M.A.S.H.?
Even Ferret Face Burns would never have left Klinger in the lurch.
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Mongo only pawn... in game of life. Thu, May 13, 2010 2:00:25pm |
Never forget that we are all in this together. Except for you and you and, yes, you in the back.
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Big Steve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:00:26pm |
When I did my part in a little war in Southeast Asia……I was happy to fight with and along side anyone who would fire their weapon in my defense. Frankly where their private parts spent their R&R never crossed my mind.
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DaddyG Thu, May 13, 2010 2:00:33pm |
re: #16 Gus 802
I’m curious. Inhofe’s biography states that he was in the Army from 1957 to 1958 or one year. That seems like a rather short stint. According to other sources in addition to only serving one year he never made rank above private and never left US soil.
He was scared out of the service by a fellow soldier who asked if cammo made his butt look fat.
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 2:00:40pm |
re: #16 Gus 802
I’m curious. Inhofe’s biography states that he was in the Army from 1957 to 1958 or one year. That seems like a rather short stint. According to other sources in addition to only serving one year he never made rank above private and never left US soil.
Maybe they found out he was gay and a Muslim! :p
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 2:00:56pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 2:01:26pm |
re: #16 Gus 802
I’m curious. Inhofe’s biography states that he was in the Army from 1957 to 1958 or one year. That seems like a rather short stint. According to other sources in addition to only serving one year he never made rank above private and never left US soil.
My dad was in the Navy around that time for their shortest enlistment commitment ever allowed: 18 months. Stationed in Hawaii.
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recusancy Thu, May 13, 2010 2:01:28pm |
re: #13 recusancy
[Link: www.zogby.com…]
73 percent are comfortable with lesbians and gays. And that was in in ‘06. It’s probably even more now.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:01:36pm |
in a gunfight…lead flying, RPGs…confusion, checking cover, searching for the bad guys….men pinned down, others maneuvering, radio chatter, yelling…..SNAP DECISION!….fuck Bob over there, he’s gay
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Gus Thu, May 13, 2010 2:02:53pm |
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 2:03:50pm |
re: #16 Gus 802
I’m curious. Inhofe’s biography states that he was in the Army from 1957 to 1958 or one year. That seems like a rather short stint. According to other sources in addition to only serving one year he never made rank above private and never left US soil.
Possibly the 6 month or so active duty training for Reservists and National Guard
before the revert to civilian life. He mentioned Basic Training.
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DaddyG Thu, May 13, 2010 2:03:56pm |
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Lidane Thu, May 13, 2010 2:04:17pm |
What’s that Goldwater quote about not having to be straight in the military as long as you can shoot straight?
Yeah. I think that makes much more sense than any of Inhofe’s delusional rants.
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Gus Thu, May 13, 2010 2:05:16pm |
re: #32 Lidane
What’s that Goldwater quote about not having to be straight in the military as long as you can shoot straight?
Yeah. I think that makes much more sense than any of Inhofe’s delusional rants.
You don’t have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight. Barry Goldwater
[Link: www.brainyquote.com…]
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DaddyG Thu, May 13, 2010 2:05:17pm |
Now refresh my memory, Inhofe is from what party?
The modern whigs are looking more and more viable to me. Sigh.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:06:04pm |
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SpaceJesus Thu, May 13, 2010 2:06:54pm |
sweet, we should definitely be fighting 21st century wars with 21st century technology, yet with 15th century world views.
bravo, your conservative piece of garbage.
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 2:07:03pm |
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 2:07:11pm |
re: #34 DaddyG
Now refresh my memory, Inhofe is from what party?
The modern whigs are looking more and more viable to me. Sigh.
He’s a Republican.
Is it that hard for you to think about voting Democrat?
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MandyManners Thu, May 13, 2010 2:08:05pm |
This is a horrible slap in the face of every soldier, sailor, Marine and airman.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 2:08:39pm |
Horseshit. One of the best SNCOs I ever knew in the Marines was a lesbian. I’d have no problems fighting with her.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:08:51pm |
Alvin York was a conscientious objector….can’t trust him to fight
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recusancy Thu, May 13, 2010 2:09:42pm |
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:10:03pm |
re: #40 MandyManners
This is a horrible slap in the face of every soldier, sailor, Marine and airman.
yeah, a total slam dunk
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 2:10:13pm |
re: #39 jamesfirecat
He’s a Republican.
Is it that hard for you to think about voting Democrat?
I can’t believe this guy is going to be my Senator in 2 months…Really sucks!
On the bright side..Look at all the info I’ll have to write letters to the editor..
*shakes head*
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DaddyG Thu, May 13, 2010 2:10:47pm |
re: #39 jamesfirecat
He’s a Republican.
Is it that hard for you to think about voting Democrat?
I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may start a flame war. ;-)
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 2:11:17pm |
re: #39 jamesfirecat
He’s a Republican.
Is it that hard for you to think about voting Democrat?
Damn right it is…
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:11:46pm |
re: #39 jamesfirecat
He’s a Republican.
Is it that hard for you to think about voting Democrat?
yes, he’s one guy, not representative of everybodys ideology
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 2:11:47pm |
re: #36 Guanxi88
Theban Band, anyone?
Ah ha, here’s what he fears:
During their early engagements, in an attempt to bolster general morale, they were dispersed by Gorgidas throughout the front ranks of the Theban army.
In the front! Where everyone can see them!
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Jeff In Ohio Thu, May 13, 2010 2:12:03pm |
I’m wondering how all the gay soldiers will adapt to being dirty and sweaty and just having green to wear. Also, what will they do with their throbbing boners in the fox holes when they get close quartered with meaty heterosexuals and everyones juices are flowing?
Look, I’m just asking questions.
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DaddyG Thu, May 13, 2010 2:12:49pm |
re: #47 marjoriemoon
Doth protest too much.
Quick, check his travel reimbursements for any payments to teenage “bag handlers”. /
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middy Thu, May 13, 2010 2:12:49pm |
re: #40 MandyManners
This is a horrible slap in the face of every soldier, sailor, Marine and airman.
Indeed. Even if the serviceman in question was not in favor of open sexual orientation in the military, I doubt that he would take kindly to the insinuation that he would fail to fight for his fellow American.
[he = he or she]
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 2:13:06pm |
re: #49 albusteve
yes, he’s one guy, not representative of everybodys ideology
I didn’t think he was, I was only answering his question “Now refresh my memory, Inhofe is from what party?” And suggesting that a vote for democrats might do more good than one for the MWP…
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garhighway Thu, May 13, 2010 2:13:36pm |
What’s the over-and-under on Inhofe getting caught in a fleabag motel with a male prostitute?
I’d guess 9 months.
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 2:13:57pm |
re: #52 DaddyG
Quick, check his travel reimbursements for any payments to teenage “bag handlers”. /
lol Any accounts at rentboy??
I’m thoroughly convinced all these guys are gay.
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 2:15:15pm |
re: #56 marjoriemoon
lol Any accounts at rentboy??
I’m thoroughly convinced all these guys are gay.
ooops Not that there’s anything wrong with that!!
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 2:16:24pm |
I’m against Picketing; But I’m just not sure how to show it…
/People I missed my introduction…Good afternoon Lizards!
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 2:16:45pm |
“I would never trust a gay guy to handle my bag.” —Sen. Inhole
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 2:18:05pm |
re: #58 HoosierHoops
I’m against Picketing; But I’m just not sure how to show it…
/People I missed my introduction…Good afternoon Lizards!
Mitch! I miss Mitch. afternoon hh
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:18:23pm |
re: #59 Cato the Elder
“I would never trust a gay guy to handle my bag.” —Sen. Inhole
“that’s no bag, that’s my wife”…John Edwards
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 2:18:59pm |
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:19:45pm |
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 2:19:56pm |
re: #60 cliffster
Every time I go and shave, I assume there’s someone else on the planet shaving. So I say, ‘I’m gonna go shave, too.’
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 2:20:29pm |
Inhofe:
it would be very expensive…you have women, men, then you have a third group you have to deal with, we’re not equiped for that…
Wait a minute. If you are going to separate the women, the men, and the gay people, wouldn’t you have four groups? Women and men (straight) and then gay women and gay men. Clearly he hasn’t thought this through.
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 2:20:31pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, May 13, 2010 2:21:00pm |
re: #64 cliffster
Every time I go and shave, I assume there’s someone else on the planet shaving. So I say, ‘I’m gonna go shave, too.’
ON the topic of which, for some reason or other, I haven’t been able to get a good shave here lately. I mean, I changed disposable Dollar General brand razors back in November….
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 2:21:16pm |
re: #39 jamesfirecat
About as hard as contemplating a long walk off a short plank./
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 2:22:07pm |
re: #67 Guanxi88
ON the topic of which, for some reason or other, I haven’t been able to get a good shave here lately. I mean, I changed disposable Dollar General brand razors back in November…
That half-plucking, half-shaving rash you get is good for your skin. Opens up the pores.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 2:22:51pm |
re: #55 garhighway
Inhofe’s not a closet-dweller, he’s just a panderer because he thinks that’s what his constituents want to hear.
He’s a little behind the power curve.
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 2:23:49pm |
Unicorns are real
A leprechaun told me so…
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 2:24:09pm |
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MandyManners Thu, May 13, 2010 2:24:17pm |
re: #53 middy
Indeed. Even if the serviceman in question was not in favor of open sexual orientation in the military, I doubt that he would take kindly to the insinuation that he would fail to fight for his fellow American.
[he = he or she]
And, that he would fail to follow orders!
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lostlakehiker Thu, May 13, 2010 2:24:26pm |
Inhofe has no clue. The ONLY objection that holds any water at all is that sexual bonds can come into conflict with unit cohesion. This is a possibility both across gender lines and within them. Since the military has managed fairly well to cope with the hazard when men and women serve together, it ought to be able to cope fairly well with the same hazard when men and men serve together.
The acid test would be to see how things went if we had men and women share shower and toilet facilities, but maybe we don’t need to push our luck before giving the proposed new policy a try.
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 2:24:29pm |
re: #69 albusteve
mine
I read it, saw the edwards is an asshole point, thought it was funny, then thought about it some more, then quickly changed my mind.
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 2:25:03pm |
re: #65 wrenchwench
Inhofe:
Wait a minute. If you are going to separate the women, the men, and the gay people, wouldn’t you have four groups? Women and men (straight) and then gay women and gay men. Clearly he hasn’t thought this through.
Then slice and dice the gender past the racial, language, and political filters. I don’t think Sen. Inhofe would have done a lot of shooting.
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Guanxi88 Thu, May 13, 2010 2:25:11pm |
re: #70 cliffster
That half-plucking, half-shaving rash you get is good for your skin. Opens up the pores.
It’s what I figured. Maybe I’ll splurge and actually use shaving cream now and again, instead of just using hot water. Might help.
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MandyManners Thu, May 13, 2010 2:26:10pm |
re: #79 Guanxi88
It’s what I figured. Maybe I’ll splurge and actually use shaving cream now and again, instead of just using hot water. Might help.
Oh, just man up and use a sander.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:26:14pm |
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 2:26:17pm |
re: #71 tradewind
Inhofe’s not a closet-dweller, he’s just a panderer because he thinks that’s what his constituents want to hear.
He’s a little behind the power curve.
My default mode these days is that anyone who spends more than five minutes a year thinking, talking and writing about a type of sexuality that he considers aberrant is probably morbidly fascinated with it for a reason - and not because the Bible or some voters tell him he ought to be.
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Gus Thu, May 13, 2010 2:26:56pm |
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 2:27:44pm |
re: #75 lostlakehiker
Inhofe has no clue. The ONLY objection that holds any water at all is that sexual bonds can come into conflict with unit cohesion. This is a possibility both across gender lines and within them. Since the military has managed fairly well to cope with the hazard when men and women serve together, it ought to be able to cope fairly well with the same hazard when men and men serve together.
The acid test would be to see how things went if we had men and women share shower and toilet facilities, but maybe we don’t need to push our luck before giving the proposed new policy a try.
Male/female soldiers have been sharing tents, fer sher, and perhaps latrines, in deployments since at least 1989.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 2:27:55pm |
re: #72 HoosierHoops
Unicorns are real
A leprechaun told me so…
2 Leprechauns walk into a convent and ask to speak to the Mother Superior.
The first one asks, “Mother Superior, do you have any Leprechaun Nuns here?”
She responds no. The second Leprechaun starts looking a bit ashamed.
The first leprechaun then asks, “Mother Superior, do you happen to know of any Leprechaun Nuns anywhere?”
She thinks for a moment and then answers, “No, I can’t think of any.”
So the first Leprechaun turns to the second and says, “SEE! I told you that you fucked a penguin!”
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 2:29:38pm |
re: #79 Guanxi88
It’s what I figured. Maybe I’ll splurge and actually use shaving cream now and again, instead of just using hot water. Might help.
Go for the gold: Neutragena shaving creme in a tube. Lasts a lot longer than the foamy cans, and all those excess bubbles above the skin surface don’t do anything to help the razor, anyway.
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MandyManners Thu, May 13, 2010 2:29:57pm |
re: #86 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
2 Leprechauns walk into a convent and ask to speak to the Mother Superior.
The first one asks, “Mother Superior, do you have any Leprechaun Nuns here?”
She responds no. The second Leprechaun starts looking a bit ashamed.
The first leprechaun then asks, “Mother Superior, do you happen to know of any Leprechaun Nuns anywhere?”
She thinks for a moment and then answers, “No, I can’t think of any.”
So the first Leprechaun turns to the second and says, “SEE! I told you that you fucked a penguin!”
What’s next? The joke about blowing a seal?
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 2:30:07pm |
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Ojoe Thu, May 13, 2010 2:30:23pm |
“If I am lying by the road bleeding, I don’t care if the medic coming to save me is gay. I just hope he is one of those buff gay guys who are always in the gym so he can throw me over his shoulder and get me out of there.”
This is from Blackfive.
We should all fight for each other. Inhofe is clueless about the real world.
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 2:31:37pm |
re: #87 Cato the Elder
Go for the gold: Neutragena shaving creme in a tube. Lasts a lot longer than the foamy cans, and all those excess bubbles above the skin surface don’t do anything to help the razor, anyway.
Hey that’s funny, I just started that last week. Makes my face feel soft as a baby’s butt (as my pops used to say)
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:32:25pm |
re: #91 cliffster
Hey that’s funny, I just started that last week. Makes my face feel soft as a baby’s butt (as my pops used to say)
I’m bearded…shaving is for sissies
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 2:32:47pm |
re: #88 MandyManners
What’s next? The joke about blowing a seal?
I would appreciate not talking about private topics on the blog, thank you.
/
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lostlakehiker Thu, May 13, 2010 2:33:24pm |
re: #65 wrenchwench
Inhofe:
Wait a minute. If you are going to separate the women, the men, and the gay people, wouldn’t you have four groups? Women and men (straight) and then gay women and gay men. Clearly he hasn’t thought this through.
That wouldn’t work. If you want to arrange that no one is sexually attracted to anyone else in the same unit, and if you assume that most soldiers of whatever orientation are fairly likely to find a random young and healthy person of their favored sex attractive, then military units including homosexuals, to achieve the no-attraction goal, would be limited to two people: one gay guy and one lesbian woman.
We don’t utterly separate men and women, and it’s worked out fairly well. The women do sometimes get pregnant, which is a clue that biology has won a round or two against regulations from time to time, but all in all, women soldiers have been an asset to the military and they’ve not impaired unit cohesion or effectiveness. We should expect roughly the same kinds of results if we include homosexuals. Pressing one’s affections on another soldier would remain against the rules, and violations of the rules would still occur, but again, at a level sufficiently low that unit morale and cohesion bear up fine under that modest strain.
The military does need time to think over how it would implement the new system. Gates is right here that if there is to be a new policy, new rules will have to be thought out and new instructions given so that everybody can get used to the idea and know what is expected.
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Guanxi88 Thu, May 13, 2010 2:33:29pm |
re: #87 Cato the Elder
Go for the gold: Neutragena shaving creme in a tube. Lasts a lot longer than the foamy cans, and all those excess bubbles above the skin surface don’t do anything to help the razor, anyway.
Might be time to dig into my SEEKRIT VAULT of bachelor-day treasures and break out the horn-handled Sheffield straight-razor and strop set. Just gotta make sure I DON’T drink coffee or have any loud noises when I shave.
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 2:34:25pm |
re: #92 albusteve
I’m bearded…shaving is for sissies
If I let my facial hair grow out, people would nervously pull their kids away when I walked through the grocery store.
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Randall Gross Thu, May 13, 2010 2:35:10pm |
Softsoap works as soap, shaving cream, and shampoo, and it comes in giant jugs….
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 2:35:22pm |
re: #34 DaddyG
You weren’t really confused, were you? More of a statement.//
For balance, there’s John F’ing Kerry, who hasn’t slurred gays, but has slurred our servicemen by accusing them of raping and pillaging.
For every whacked out Republican Congressman , there’s a counterpart with a D after his or her name. You just have to know where to find them.
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 2:35:27pm |
re: #94 lostlakehiker
one gay guy and one lesbian woman
That describes a pair of roommates in the coed dorm at my college.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:37:42pm |
re: #96 cliffster
If I let my facial hair grow out, people would nervously pull their kids away when I walked through the grocery store.
I live in NM where any bizarre whisker, hair style combo is perfectly acceptable…you should see some of the hair art down here…cool
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Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 2:37:57pm |
Inhofe has lost the ability to surprise as far as I’m concerned. He is the Michele Bachmann of the Senate. He may be a bit less flashy, but he is just as crazy.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 2:38:46pm |
re: #98 tradewind
You weren’t really confused, were you? More of a statement.//
For balance, there’s John F’ing Kerry, who hasn’t slurred gays, but has slurred our servicemen by accusing them of raping and pillaging.
For every whacked out Republican Congressman , there’s a counterpart with a D after his or her name. You just have to know where to find them.
Because alone among armies in the history of the world, our American soldiers have never raped, pillaged, or told little white lies…
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 2:41:30pm |
re: #101 Nimed
Inhofe has lost the ability to surprise as far as I’m concerned. He is the Michele Bachmann of the Senate. He may be a bit less flashy, but he is just as crazy.
He’s a lumberjack and he’s ok.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 2:41:34pm |
re: #82 Cato the Elder
Then I’m guessing you’ve never had to run for office or manage a campaign in an environment you believe to be hostile to the idea of gays in the military. Not all pandering is pathology.
Sometimes an asshole is just an asshole.
However, in a different environment, I would tend to agree with you. I don’t think this situation is more than one layer deep.
JMO.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 2:43:11pm |
re: #104 tradewind
Then I’m guessing you’ve never had to run for office or manage a campaign in an environment you believe to be hostile to the idea of gays in the military. Not all pandering is pathology.
Yes, it is.
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 2:43:25pm |
re: #101 Nimed
Inhofe has lost the ability to surprise as far as I’m concerned. He is the Michele Bachmann of the Senate. He may be a bit less flashy, but he is just as crazy.
Per some very hinky word-count stats, this guy could be 8 times crazier than Rep. Bachmann:
[Link: gawker.com…]
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justaminute Thu, May 13, 2010 2:44:05pm |
re: #45 HoosierHoops
I can’t believe this guy is going to be my Senator in 2 months…Really sucks!
On the bright side..Look at all the info I’ll have to write letters to the editor..
*shakes head*
Good Luck with that. You will have to write the Tulsa newspaper because the OKC newspaper The Daily Oklahoman is very Republican. They are a joke. There is a weekly called The Gazette that is free that carries the banner against Inhofe and the Dem ideas.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 2:44:21pm |
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, May 13, 2010 2:44:42pm |
re: #102 Cato the Elder
Because alone among armies in the history of the world, our American soldiers have never raped, pillaged, or told little white lies…
The vast majority of us have not but regardless, all of us will stand up and defend Inhofe or Kerry’s right to say whatever they want. See it isn’t about politics with most military members, it’s about defending the constitution and the rights of every citizen. There is a lot of stupid verbal excrement that comes out of people’s mouths. Most servicemen and women ignore it and rise above it.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:44:57pm |
re: #107 Decatur Deb
Per some very hinky word-count stats, this guy could be 8 times crazier than Rep. Bachmann:
[Link: gawker.com…]
don’t some phrases have a higher crazy value than others?…I call bullshit
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elektramourns Thu, May 13, 2010 2:45:03pm |
so when will DADT be repealed?? many people are sick of waiting
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Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 2:46:02pm |
re: #98 tradewind
You weren’t really confused, were you? More of a statement.//
For balance, there’s John F’ing Kerry, who hasn’t slurred gays, but has slurred our servicemen by accusing them of raping and pillaging.
You should really pay more attention. Our servicemen is whom Inhofe is slurring in this video, not gays.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 2:46:08pm |
re: #112 elektramourns
so when will DADT be repealed?? many people are sick of waiting
Right after Obama sticks to his timetable for quitting Iraq.
Wait, what?
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 2:46:08pm |
re: #111 albusteve
don’t some phrases have a higher crazy value than others?…I call bullshit
Hey, it’s science, dude.
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drogheda Thu, May 13, 2010 2:46:41pm |
re: #18 tradewind
Maybe it’s naivete on my part, but I have a hard time believing that even the most die-hard homophobe would use that as a reason to fail to defend a fellow soldier.
Has Inhofe never seen M.A.S.H.?
Even Ferret Face Burns would never have left Klinger in the lurch.
Uh… Corporal Klinger was a married man. Twice.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:47:49pm |
re: #108 justaminute
Good Luck with that. You will have to write the Tulsa newspaper because the OKC newspaper The Daily Oklahoman is very Republican. They are a joke. There is a weekly called The Gazette that is free that carries the banner against Inhofe and the Dem ideas.
so very Democrat newspapers are not a joke?…or are papers judged by other than their political slant?
(hint: 90% of the news media in America is a joke)
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 2:47:58pm |
re: #112 elektramourns
The day after Gitmo closes. They promise.
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 2:48:00pm |
re: #104 tradewind
Then I’m guessing you’ve never had to run for office or manage a campaign in an environment you believe to be hostile to the idea of gays in the military. Not all pandering is pathology.
That is cynical to the point of making me barf.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 2:48:47pm |
re: #113 Nimed
You should really pay more attention. Our servicemen is whom Inhofe is slurring in this video, not gays.
agree
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:49:04pm |
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 2:50:09pm |
re: #108 justaminute
Good Luck with that. You will have to write the Tulsa newspaper because the OKC newspaper The Daily Oklahoman is very Republican. They are a joke. There is a weekly called The Gazette that is free that carries the banner against Inhofe and the Dem ideas.
hey - any paper against Inhofe and the Dem ideas sounds like good reading to me;)
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goddamnedfrank Thu, May 13, 2010 2:50:28pm |
re: #98 tradewind
You weren’t really confused, were you? More of a statement.//
For balance, there’s John F’ing Kerry, who hasn’t slurred gays, but has slurred our servicemen by accusing them of raping and pillaging.
For every whacked out Republican Congressman , there’s a counterpart with a D after his or her name. You just have to know where to find them.
What exactly do you think happened at My Lai?
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 2:50:40pm |
re: #116 drogheda
Yeah, but he was pretending to be gay so he could get home .
Dressed up to the max.
Besides, I needed to use him for reference. I didn’t think there’d be a litmus test.
:)
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elektramourns Thu, May 13, 2010 2:50:59pm |
re: #71 tradewind
Inhofe’s not a closet-dweller, he’s just a panderer because he thinks that’s what his constituents want to hear.
He’s a little behind the power curve.
When you evaluate OK, you know why—very Christian, very uneducated, lots of domestic violence, multiple marriages, low wages. And those goddamed twisters. If a state is poor, religious, and backwards, you can bet it is a GOP safe haven. They must love him over there.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 2:51:51pm |
re: #123 goddamnedfrank
So not the point.
It didn’t happen in Iraq, where he accused them of it. Or at least he wasn’t there to witness what he claimed was going on.
Kerry is a dirtbag, plain and simple, although I hear he served in Vietnam.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 2:51:57pm |
re: #119 wrenchwench
That is cynical to the point of making me barf.
Unfortunately she’s also right. Pandering is pathological, to be sure, but to a politician it’s part of the job description.
An atheist could maybe get elected in this country, but only after learning to close every speech with “God bless America!”
Whores have to tell their johns what they want to hear. “Yes, baby, you made me come, and it was great!”
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:52:29pm |
re: #125 elektramourns
When you evaluate OK, you know why—very Christian, very uneducated, lots of domestic violence, multiple marriages, low wages. And those goddamed twisters. If a state is poor, religious, and backwards, you can bet it is a GOP safe haven. They must love him over there.
so? your momma wears combat boots
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 2:53:05pm |
re: #125 elektramourns
When you evaluate OK, you know why—very Christian, very uneducated, lots of domestic violence, multiple marriages, low wages. And those goddamed twisters. If a state is poor, religious, and backwards, you can bet it is a GOP safe haven. They must love him over there.
NM has all of that except the tornadoes, and it is heavily Democrat.
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MandyManners Thu, May 13, 2010 2:53:33pm |
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 2:53:42pm |
the wingnut telegraph is all ablaze with the following:
“Two private investigators working independently” have discovered “President Obama is using a Social Security number set aside for applicants in Connecticut while there is no record he ever had a mailing address in the state.” Also, “WND has copies of affidavits filed separately in a presidential eligibility lawsuit in the U.S. District Court of the District of Columbia by Ohio licensed private investigator Susan Daniels and Colorado private investigator John N. Sampson.”
NOTHING IS OVER.Obama’s social security number issued out of Connecticut . WHY???
We’ll know in 6 months when Republicans take back the House. Obama is going to be investigated thoroughly by several House Committees
Darryl Issa has something on the back burner right now which could be an impeachable offense . Trying to bribe Sestak. When Republicans get subpoena power in 6 months, this could crack wide open
source: trolls on eschaton
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 2:54:24pm |
re: #117 albusteve
so very Democrat newspapers are not a joke?…or are papers judged by other than their political slant?
(hint: 90% of the news media in America is a joke)
I think the best paper for like forever is the SF Chron. But I grew up reading that paper..And I read in on the web religiously every day…My favorite reporter is CW Nevius…We’ve been exchange emails for like 10 or more years.
When I go back home one of the first things I do is go out to Breakfast and read the Chron…
How does it feel to be a grandpa Steve?
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MandyManners Thu, May 13, 2010 2:54:28pm |
re: #126 tradewind
So not the point.
It didn’t happen in Iraq, where he accused them of it. Or at least he wasn’t there to witness what he claimed was going on.
Kerry is a dirtbag, plain and simple, although I hear he served in Vietnam.
HALP US, JON CARRY!
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elektramourns Thu, May 13, 2010 2:54:29pm |
It is so sad to see poor backwards Sothern states—I live in one—who tow the Republican line. Racism started it, abetted by Strom Thurmond when he became a Dixiecrat, then a Republican. And when a state has 2 GOP US SEnators, I know they are probably the worse off of all.
The GOP cares not a fig for the wellbeing of the vast majority of a state’s residents.
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RogueOne Thu, May 13, 2010 2:55:04pm |
re: #3 Obdicut
I’ve never heard any soldier or Marine say this.
I have. I don’t think it’s anything like what was going on in the early 90’s when DADT was put into place but there are still going to be a small percentage of the population that won’t volunteer if (when) this goes through.
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 2:55:35pm |
re: #126 tradewind
So not the point.
It didn’t happen in Iraq, where he accused them of it. Or at least he wasn’t there to witness what he claimed was going on.
Kerry is a dirtbag, plain and simple, although I hear he served in Vietnam.
You only “hear” he served in Vietnam after all the times he mentioned his purple hearts in the 2004 election?
(Look out this joke cuts both ways!)
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MandyManners Thu, May 13, 2010 2:55:54pm |
re: #135 RogueOne
I have. I don’t think it’s anything like what was going on in the early 90’s when DADT was put into place but there are still going to be a small percentage of the population that won’t volunteer if (when) this goes through.
I wonder if any officers will resign their commissions.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 2:56:01pm |
re: #134 elektramourns
It is so sad to see poor backwards Sothern states—I live in one—who tow the Republican line. Racism started it, abetted by Strom Thurmond when he became a Dixiecrat, then a Republican. And when a state has 2 GOP US SEnators, I know they are probably the worse off of all.
The GOP cares not a fig for the wellbeing of the vast majority of a state’s residents.
yep, good thing we have liberals around so that we can get out of the habit of broad, sweeping, insulting positions as a substitute for reasoned discourse…
9_9
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M. Dubious Thu, May 13, 2010 2:56:03pm |
re: #125 elektramourns
Be nice. Lots of good people in Oklahoma. Oklahoma’s ok.
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Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 2:56:20pm |
re: #127 Cato the Elder
An atheist could maybe get elected in this country, but only after learning to close every speech with “God bless America!”
I strongly suspect this already happened.
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 2:56:25pm |
re: #134 elektramourns
It is so sad to see poor backwards Sothern states—I live in one—who tow the Republican line. Racism started it, abetted by Strom Thurmond when he became a Dixiecrat, then a Republican. And when a state has 2 GOP US SEnators, I know they are probably the worse off of all.
The GOP cares not a fig for the wellbeing of the vast majority of a state’s residents.
Yep. Every Republican is a racist, bigoted, homophobic dirtbag. And if you vote for one, you’re a nazi.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 2:56:44pm |
re: #119 wrenchwench
I know.
I’m just saying.
Actually, it is getting harder and harder for me to imagine that any healthy personality who is clicking on all cylinders can put him or her self and family members through the psy-ops horrors of a campaign for national office.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 2:56:50pm |
re: #134 elektramourns
It is so sad to see poor backwards Sothern states—I live in one—who tow the Republican line. Racism started it, abetted by Strom Thurmond when he became a Dixiecrat, then a Republican. And when a state has 2 GOP US SEnators, I know they are probably the worse off of all.
The GOP cares not a fig for the wellbeing of the vast majority of a state’s residents.
You think global generalizations about the GOP go over here better than ones about Democrats?
Think again.
And the phrase is “toe the line”. I wouldn’t expect you to associate that with anything, but you can google it.
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RogueOne Thu, May 13, 2010 2:57:13pm |
re: #21 DaddyG
He was scared out of the service by a fellow soldier who asked if cammo made his butt look fat.
Winner! New thread……
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 2:57:37pm |
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palomino Thu, May 13, 2010 2:57:39pm |
re: #129 wrenchwench
NM has all of that except the tornadoes, and it is heavily Democrat.
The difference is probably ethnicity. Whites are 70%+ of the population in OK, but only about 40% of the NM population. Hispanics in NM have helped Dems get elected.
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 2:58:06pm |
i find it very hard to believe that soldiers aren’t perfectly aware that there have always been gay people in the armed forces
i can’t imagine the army people i worked with getting upset about it
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 2:58:10pm |
re: #132 HoosierHoops
I think the best paper for like forever is the SF Chron. But I grew up reading that paper..And I read in on the web religiously every day…My favorite reporter is CW Nevius…We’ve been exchange emails for like 10 or more years.
When I go back home one of the first things I do is go out to Breakfast and read the Chron…
How does it feel to be a grandpa Steve?
I’m thrilled….I hope the little scoundrel picks up a few of my habits…of course others think differently
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RogueOne Thu, May 13, 2010 2:58:29pm |
re: #137 MandyManners
I wonder if any officers will resign their commissions.
There are a ton of mormons in the officer ranks. It wouldn’t surprise me if some end up moving on. IMHO, if that’s how they feel then it’s time they do move on.
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justaminute Thu, May 13, 2010 2:59:23pm |
re: #117 albusteve
so very Democrat newspapers are not a joke?…or are papers judged by other than their political slant?
(hint: 90% of the news media in America is a joke)
The Daily Oklahoman absolutely refuses to play fair. Any stories that reflect badly on the Rep party are buried or not published. The good thing it is shrinking big time. Even people that have Rep leanings hate this paper. They just reflect the Gaylord family choices. Their readership is shrinking and most people just subscribe to the Sunday paper. It has changed the size of the paper it is printed on 3 times in the last year. This state if so Republican and they don’t support it it’s that bad.
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 2:59:31pm |
re: #150 RogueOne
afternoon, rogue. Nice work, sticking up for the sil.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 2:59:44pm |
re: #149 albusteve
I’m thrilled…I hope the little scoundrel picks up a few of my habits…of course others think differently
Just wait till he’s seven or eight and promise him you’ll take him for a ride on your motorcycle someday. He’s guaranteed to tell his mom. My niece did.
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MandyManners Thu, May 13, 2010 2:59:57pm |
re: #150 RogueOne
There are a ton of mormons in the officer ranks. It wouldn’t surprise me if some end up moving on. IMHO, if that’s how they feel then it’s time they do move on.
Yeah, if you can’t follow orders, it’s time to get out.
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elektramourns Thu, May 13, 2010 3:00:02pm |
re: #136 jamesfirecat
I am a moderate Democrat and i think only the moderates can win. I think anyone can skewer your past but a strong confident person can stand up to that and carry his or head high with a win or a loss.
I think we are all tired of extremism in both parties. The GOP makes me vomit every day, and I feel at times like we should always be in attack mode, but I also think it is classy, like Obama does frequently, to stay above the fray.
Pardon me for rambling.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 3:00:23pm |
re: #150 RogueOne
There are a ton of mormons in the officer ranks. It wouldn’t surprise me if some end up moving on. IMHO, if that’s how they feel then it’s time they do move on.
Is there an update on the SIL’s BF?
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, May 13, 2010 3:00:26pm |
“Sure there are only 12 of us out here on patrol and every rifle counts in this ambush by 120 Taliban zealots, but, you know, Taylor there probably does Icky things in his bedroom so I’m going to let them overrun his position. Sure we will probably all die once they get inside the perimeter, but it will have been worth it just to put that faggot in his place!”
So that is how Inhofe thinks it works, is it?
///
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goddamnedfrank Thu, May 13, 2010 3:00:30pm |
re: #126 tradewind
So not the point.
It didn’t happen in Iraq, where he accused them of it. Or at least he wasn’t there to witness what he claimed was going on.
Kerry is a dirtbag, plain and simple, although I hear he served in Vietnam.
When did Kerry accuse US soldiers in Iraq of raping and pillaging? Those exact words come from his speech to the Foreign Relations Committee in 1971. The google shows nothing regarding his use of those words with regards to Iraq, so I’m naturally wondering if it’s just a confabulation on your part.
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 3:00:39pm |
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palomino Thu, May 13, 2010 3:00:48pm |
re: #131 engineer dog
the wingnut telegraph is all ablaze with the following:
source: trolls on eschaton
Pathetic, but some diehard revanchists will just never believe that “their country” could elect an Obama. And they’ll fight tooth and nail until he’s out of office, so blinded and consumed are they by hatred and fear.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 3:00:52pm |
re: #134 elektramourns
It is so sad to see poor backwards Sothern states—I live in one—who tow the Republican line. Racism started it, abetted by Strom Thurmond when he became a Dixiecrat, then a Republican. And when a state has 2 GOP US SEnators, I know they are probably the worse off of all.
The GOP cares not a fig for the wellbeing of the vast majority of a state’s residents.
MI-D weeps for you
CA-D weeps for you
IL-D weeps for you
NJ-D weeps for you
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 3:02:18pm |
re: #153 Cato the Elder
Just wait till he’s seven or eight and promise him you’ll take him for a ride on your motorcycle someday. He’s guaranteed to tell his mom. My niece did.
uh oh….he’ll be spitting Skol and rolling joints after his first visit to NM…I’m fucked
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 3:03:47pm |
re: #151 justaminute
The Daily Oklahoman absolutely refuses to play fair. Any stories that reflect badly on the Rep party are buried or not published. The good thing it is shrinking big time. Even people that have Rep leanings hate this paper. They just reflect the Gaylord family choices. Their readership is shrinking and most people just subscribe to the Sunday paper. It has changed the size of the paper it is printed on 3 times in the last year. This state if so Republican and they don’t support it it’s that bad.
Thanks for the scouting the area rags..
How do you think this California boy is going to do in Oklahoma?
*Everybody shakes their head and says it will be just fine*
Why is everybody looking down?
/
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RogueOne Thu, May 13, 2010 3:03:55pm |
re: #152 cliffster
afternoon, rogue. Nice work, sticking up for the sil.
Did you see my update? He looks like a racoon today and the SIL is PISSED beyond words.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 3:04:39pm |
re: #163 HoosierHoops
Thanks for the scouting the area rags..
How do you think this California boy is going to do in Oklahoma?
*Everybody shakes their head and says it will be just fine*
Why is everybody looking down?
/
Must be your fine shoes.
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 3:04:59pm |
re: #164 RogueOne
Did you see my update? He looks like a racoon today and the SIL is PISSED beyond words.
Yeah I saw it. Someday she’ll be proud of you for it though. Probably secretly is now.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 3:05:20pm |
re: #134 elektramourns
There’s help for that self-hating thing./
Cheer up…nic notwithstanding,
Mourning is really not all that becoming when it’s steeped in self-righteousness.
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allegro Thu, May 13, 2010 3:05:52pm |
re: #163 HoosierHoops
Thanks for the scouting the area rags..
How do you think this California boy is going to do in Oklahoma?
*Everybody shakes their head and says it will be just fine*
Why is everybody looking down?
There is a very active and lovely group of Mensans in OKC and surrounds. All Okies are’t dumb.
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Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 3:06:04pm |
re: #146 Cato the Elder
Care to name names?
Sure. I have my doubts about the faith of many of our 20th century Presidents. The strongest suspicions go to Clinton and Obama. Especially Obama.
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M. Dubious Thu, May 13, 2010 3:06:06pm |
re: #159 HoosierHoops
I’ve lived many places, all over the world, but I’ve never met kinder people. I have a huge, fuzzy spot in my heart for Broken Arrow, OK.
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lostlakehiker Thu, May 13, 2010 3:06:07pm |
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 3:07:07pm |
re: #113 Nimed
I’m sorry, but I think he’s managed to hit both. Not buying his fake concern for the safety of our servicemen and women who may be gay.
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lostlakehiker Thu, May 13, 2010 3:07:53pm |
re: #157 ausador
“Sure there are only 12 of us out here on patrol and every rifle counts in this ambush by 120 Taliban zealots, but, you know, Taylor there probably does Icky things in his bedroom so I’m going to let them overrun his position. Sure we will probably all die once they get inside the perimeter, but it will have been worth it just to put that faggot in his place!”
So that is how Inhofe thinks it works, is it?
///
The worry is that it’ll be more like this: Taylor is wounded and yeah going out to rescue him has to wait until the firefight is won, but dang how I love him. Here goes nothing.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:08:09pm |
re: #155 elektramourns
I also think it is classy, like Obama does frequently, to stay above the fray.
that’s good advice…
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RogueOne Thu, May 13, 2010 3:08:49pm |
re: #156 Cato the Elder
Is there an update on the SIL’s BF?
Yeah, I decided to use a mix of reason and the threat of violence to make sure he understood where I was coming from. (“Your life is about to turn to shit and get very painful”) I met him in the parking lot where he works. She just called my wife from there mad as hell because he won’t even look at her. HA! I got the word out through some friends on the wrong side of the tracks that I was looking for him and why, knowing it will get back to him.
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:09:30pm |
re: #170 Nimed
Sure. I have my doubts about the faith of many of our 20th century Presidents. The strongest suspicions go to Clinton and Obama. Especially Obama.
Clinton and Obama atheists? I can’t say for sure! My guess is no, but who the hell knows.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 3:09:54pm |
re: #143 Cato the Elder
That’s a veritable happy hunting ground of a post…. where to start?
:)
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RogueOne Thu, May 13, 2010 3:10:19pm |
re: #166 cliffster
Yeah I saw it. Someday she’ll be proud of you for it though. Probably secretly is now.
I’m hoping she grows up to understand why it had to be done fairly quickly.
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goddamnedfrank Thu, May 13, 2010 3:10:55pm |
re: #172 lostlakehiker
Murder.
But to be accurate, no rape and no pillage.
Reading comprehension starts with reading:
Many of the victims were sexually abused, beaten, tortured, and some of the bodies were found mutilated.
Soldiers went berserk, gunning down unarmed men, women, children and babies. Families which huddled together for safety in huts or bunkers were shown no mercy. Those who emerged with hands held high were murdered. … Elsewhere in the village, other atrocities were in progress. Women were gang raped; Vietnamese who had bowed to greet the Americans were beaten with fists and tortured, clubbed with rifle butts and stabbed with bayonets. Some victims were mutilated with the signature “C Company” carved into the chest. By late morning word had got back to higher authorities and a cease-fire was ordered. My Lai was in a state of carnage. Bodies were strewn through the village.
—BBC News
Gary Roschevitz — grabbed an M16 rifle from Varnado Simpson to kill 5 Vietnamese prisoners[52], later according to various witnesses he forced seven women to undress with the intention of them performing sex with him, when the women refused he reportedly shot them.
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allegro Thu, May 13, 2010 3:11:23pm |
re: #177 marjoriemoon
Clinton and Obama atheists? I can’t say for sure! My guess is no, but who the hell knows.
I think it’s a great point in their favor that no one can know. It’s really no one’s business but theirs.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 3:12:28pm |
re: #155 elektramourns
I think we are all tired of extremism in both parties.
… and yet…
The GOP makes me vomit every day, and I feel at times like we should always be in attack mode
Gonna have to think about that one a while.
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 3:13:03pm |
re: #164 RogueOne
Did you see my update? He looks like a racoon today and the SIL is PISSED beyond words.
See I read about this situation earlier AM…I don’t give parenting tips and inject myself normally…
We raised 3 boys and 2 girls…I understand your anger but I think you went the wrong direction…Never attack the boyfriend…
The solution is to talk, talk, talk…If you let her open her soul and feel comfortable with you as father type man…She will choose to leave the loser and you become more trusted…Violence will drive a young woman away..
I’m sorry and won’t say anything else..Best wishes
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elektramourns Thu, May 13, 2010 3:13:05pm |
i am simply talking about my experience growing up in a southern state that was heavily Democratic and is now the opposite. It is a shambles. And I have seem patterns that repeat themselves in other states. I think we are on the verge of some serious shit in this country, and we need to call a spade a spade. I am genuinely worried. I think it is marvelous that some of you live in more enlightened places, but where I live wages are stagnant, we have one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation, and people vote in lockstep it seems for one party only. So may people here do not have a HS diploma and are working minimum wage jobs. There is no opportunity for them. I think it is a disgrace for a society to operate like this.
If this makes me a bigot, so be it.
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 3:13:46pm |
re: #126 tradewind
So not the point.
It didn’t happen in Iraq, where he accused them of it. Or at least he wasn’t there to witness what he claimed was going on.
Kerry is a dirtbag, plain and simple, although I hear he served in Vietnam.
Where/when did Kerry accuse soldiers in Iraq of rape and pillage? Could you provide a link please.
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justaminute Thu, May 13, 2010 3:14:03pm |
re: #163 HoosierHoops
Thanks for the scouting the area rags..
How do you think this California boy is going to do in Oklahoma?
*Everybody shakes their head and says it will be just fine*
Why is everybody looking down?
/
Your going to be happy. Norman is after all a college town. Not many people talk politics on a daily basis. All they seem happy to talk about is sports. Go Sooner and Thunder. You just need some OU shirts and you will fit right in. Alot of people go to party in OKC at Bricktown. We approved a penny sales tax increase. There are so many improvement being made in the city and it is going to be awesome. And Dallas is just 2 hour away.
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 3:14:27pm |
re: #182 tradewind
Gonna have to think about that one a while.
That’s pretty funny. And a very good case in point for what I’ve been seeing.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, May 13, 2010 3:14:42pm |
re: #158 goddamnedfrank
When did Kerry accuse US soldiers in Iraq of raping and pillaging?
I’m naturally wondering if it’s just a confabulation on your part.
Probably made it up just like her claim that scientists who support climate change were making McCarthy like attacks against scientists that were deniers of climate change.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 3:14:44pm |
re: #184 elektramourns
i am simply talking about my experience growing up in a southern state that was heavily Democratic and is now the opposite. It is a shambles. And I have seem patterns that repeat themselves in other states. I think we are on the verge of some serious shit in this country, and we need to call a spade a spade. I am genuinely worried. I think it is marvelous that some of you live in more enlightened places, but where I live wages are stagnant, we have one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation, and people vote in lockstep it seems for one party only. So may people here do not have a HS diploma and are working minimum wage jobs. There is no opportunity for them. I think it is a disgrace for a society to operate like this.
If this makes me a bigot, so be it.
donks do the very same thing…chill out…political parties are not the solution, usually the cause….vote
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 3:15:16pm |
re: #141 cliffster
Yep. Every Republican is a racist, bigoted, homophobic dirtbag. And if you vote for one, you’re a nazi.
I take it that was your version of a giant leap.
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elektramourns Thu, May 13, 2010 3:16:02pm |
re: #168 tradewind
There’s help for that self-hating thing./
Cheer up…nic notwithstanding,
Mourning is really not all that becoming when it’s steeped in self-righteousness.
teach me to be humble
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 3:16:04pm |
re: #180 goddamnedfrank
On the other hand, here is the soldier who earned a medal at My Lai:
[Link: www.outsidethebeltway.com…]
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:16:28pm |
re: #184 elektramourns
i am simply talking about my experience growing up in a southern state that was heavily Democratic and is now the opposite. It is a shambles. And I have seem patterns that repeat themselves in other states. I think we are on the verge of some serious shit in this country, and we need to call a spade a spade. I am genuinely worried. I think it is marvelous that some of you live in more enlightened places, but where I live wages are stagnant, we have one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation, and people vote in lockstep it seems for one party only. So may people here do not have a HS diploma and are working minimum wage jobs. There is no opportunity for them. I think it is a disgrace for a society to operate like this.
If this makes me a bigot, so be it.
you live in Michigan?
//
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 3:17:09pm |
re: #186 justaminute
Your going to be happy. Norman is after all a college town. Not many people talk politics on a daily basis. All they seem happy to talk about is sports. Go Sooner and Thunder. You just need some OU shirts and you will fit right in. Alot of people go to party in OKC at Bricktown. We approved a penny sales tax increase. There are so many improvement being made in the city and it is going to be awesome. And Dallas is just 2 hour away.
more like 3-4 amigo
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lostlakehiker Thu, May 13, 2010 3:17:11pm |
re: #163 HoosierHoops
Thanks for the scouting the area rags..
How do you think this California boy is going to do in Oklahoma?
*Everybody shakes their head and says it will be just fine*
Why is everybody looking down?
/
OK 2009 NAEP 8th grade math stats: 275.71 OK, 270.45 CA.
8th grade reading, 259.5 OK, 252.63 CA.
If OK is stupid, then CA is stupider. OK stands below average but really!
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 3:18:23pm |
As much of an asshole as Inhole is, it is funny to think that back in the day, DADT was considered an improvement over the previous policy, which was essentially “root ‘em out and kick ‘em out in disgrace”.
Now he’s defending it because - why? It makes him feel like there aren’t any gays if they don’t paint it on their faces in camo-stick?
And it would be well to remember that DADT applies only to official statements about one’s sexuality to the brass. It’s not like platoons full of soldiers don’t know what’s what. Try telling them that they won’t fight for Brian or Cindy.
Asshole.
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 3:19:32pm |
re: #169 allegro
There is a very active and lovely group of Mensans in OKC and surrounds. All Okies are’t dumb.
Our company is a top 10 corporation Globally..Huge…We are building outside of OU and going to build very high tech stuff..
I”m pretty sure nobody thinks we will have to hire and train banjo playing, Your mouth sure is pretty, Hillbillies there…
I’ve been reading up and I think they get a bad rap and there is a lot of talent and land there..We wouldn’t go there otherwise…I think it’s a very exciting opportunity for us and the State…
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 3:20:07pm |
re: #172 lostlakehiker
Murder.
But to be accurate, no rape and no pillage.
Reading the link would be a good thing.
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 3:20:17pm |
democrats feel besieged by the army of latter-day father coughlins on the right who are unconstrained by any accountability of any kind, e.g. limbaugh, beck, savage. this is quite apart from ordinary, respectable republicans
are there ‘liberal’ counterparts to this army of psychotics and pathological liars?
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 3:20:46pm |
re: #197 elektramourns
Stay and fight. It’s a military thread.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 3:20:54pm |
re: #197 elektramourns
Good bye folks. I do not feel I fit it here. I have enjoyed it.
Jeez. A left-wing flounce.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, May 13, 2010 3:21:03pm |
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 3:21:05pm |
re: #158 goddamnedfrank
You’re right. He said ’ breaking into houses and terrorizing ‘.
The rape thing was years before, when he was chatting with the House Committee about what a good talk he had with the North Vietnamese last time he was in Paris. That whole winter soldier dustup.
…they raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
[Link: facultystaff.richmond.edu…]
Yes, I know there were atrocities in Vietnam. There are in every war. I still think he’s a dirtbag for the way he used them.
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 3:21:19pm |
re: #197 elektramourns
Good bye folks. I do not feel I fit it here. I have enjoyed it.
Enjoying it is all you need to “fit in”, as long as you don’t mind other people firing back at anything you might say. That can be hard to take.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:21:26pm |
re: #197 elektramourns
Good bye folks. I do not feel I fit it here. I have enjoyed it.
“You do not see the river of mourning because it lacks one tear of your own.”
-Antonio Porchia
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 3:21:30pm |
re: #197 elektramourns
Good bye folks. I do not feel I fit it here. I have enjoyed it.
was it the way I smell? I’m pretty sure I put on deodorant this morning….
*sniff*
*sniff*
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justaminute Thu, May 13, 2010 3:21:32pm |
re: #194 albusteve
more like 3-4 amigo
I go to Dallas 3 or 4 times a month. 3 or 4 hour only apply if you hit Dallas during rush hour. It’s just a straight shot down I-35 but thinking about it they are starting a construction project on I-35 and you never know.
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McSpiff Thu, May 13, 2010 3:22:02pm |
Well, it was a polite flounce at the very least.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 3:22:14pm |
re: #188 Reginald Perrin
Feel free to evict me from your head at any time./
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 3:22:30pm |
re: #197 elektramourns
Good bye folks. I do not feel I fit it here. I have enjoyed it.
Please stay and fight. All we use is words (except Bagua, who might bugger your Twitter account).
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:22:59pm |
re: #207 cliffster
was it the way I smell? I’m pretty sure I put on deodorant this morning…
*sniff*
*sniff*
heh. I bought Old Spice last time around mostly because i thought their ad campaign deserved it…
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 3:23:28pm |
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allegro Thu, May 13, 2010 3:23:28pm |
re: #198 HoosierHoops
Our company is a top 10 corporation Globally..Huge…We are building outside of OU and going to build very high tech stuff..
I”m pretty sure nobody thinks we will have to hire and train banjo playing, Your mouth sure is pretty, Hillbillies there…
I’ve been reading up and I thinkthey getthe likes of Inhofe gives the state a bad rap and there is a lot of talent and land there..We wouldn’t go there otherwise…I think it’s a very exciting opportunity for us and the State…
That is very cool and the state sure can use the good jobs that the company will be bringing.
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RogueOne Thu, May 13, 2010 3:23:36pm |
re: #183 HoosierHoops
I also went to my police buddy, the one who told me not to use a bat, and he’s going to stop in and check on him every so often to make sure he’s staying up with his parole responsibilities. It’s handy having friends on both sides of the tracks.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 3:23:47pm |
re: #191 elektramourns
Not my job.
But there are people here who can do it…..//
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 3:24:06pm |
re: #32 Lidane
What’s that Goldwater quote about not having to be straight in the military as long as you can shoot straight?
Yeah. I think that makes much more sense than any of Inhofe’s delusional rants.
Today’s GOP would call Barry Goldwater a RINO, and would vote him out in Arizona in favor of JD Hayworth.
/I wish I was kidding.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 3:24:22pm |
re: #170 Nimed
Sure. I have my doubts about the faith of many of our 20th century Presidents. The strongest suspicions go to Clinton and Obama. Especially Obama.
Given what one has to do to become president and then stay president, I would strongly suspect that the word “God” burns the mouth of every single one of them.
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:24:41pm |
re: #181 allegro
I think it’s a great point in their favor that no one can know. It’s really no one’s business but theirs.
Amen to that and in addition, what difference does it make.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 3:24:48pm |
re: #217 MandyManners
It’s a new tactical thing. Shame the entire community into begging you to stay.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 3:25:06pm |
re: #208 justaminute
I go to Dallas 3 or 4 times a month. 3 or 4 hour only apply if you hit Dallas during rush hour. It’s just a straight shot down I-35 but thinking about it they are starting a construction project on I-35 and you never know.
it’s over 200mi down there…I just drove it a few days ago, easily a 3 hour drive into the met
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Reginald Perrin Thu, May 13, 2010 3:25:20pm |
re: #210 tradewind
Feel free to evict me from your head at any time
Why don’t you back up your claims with facts from the reality bases universe or be honest and admit you made them up?
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McSpiff Thu, May 13, 2010 3:25:30pm |
I still remember the first “heated” thread I was involved in (in hindsight it wasn’t heated in the least, downright friendly) the urge to flounce was huge. People expect me to defend my arguments? offer rebuttals? CITE SOURCES?
Was almost too much for my fragile college ego. Extremely glad I stayed tho.
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 3:25:39pm |
re: #186 justaminute
Your going to be happy. Norman is after all a college town. Not many people talk politics on a daily basis. All they seem happy to talk about is sports. Go Sooner and Thunder. You just need some OU shirts and you will fit right in. Alot of people go to party in OKC at Bricktown. We approved a penny sales tax increase. There are so many improvement being made in the city and it is going to be awesome. And Dallas is just 2 hour away.
I think It’s going to be a blast living in a collegetown.. I’m going to love being a fan of the Thunder.. I like that team..
A couple of weeks ago we had a tour of folks from Norman to see this facility..
After a while I called a couple of the guys together and asked, What do you think of the Cowboy?’
We hate them!
I really think I’m going to like Oklahoma!
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MandyManners Thu, May 13, 2010 3:25:58pm |
re: #222 tradewind
It’s a new tactical thing. Shame the entire community into begging you to stay.
It’s logged off.
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 3:26:09pm |
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 3:26:32pm |
re: #212 Aceofwhat?
No, it totally works. Especially on women with Daddy issues.
:)
Hate cologne on men, but that faint whiff of Old Spice is great.
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MandyManners Thu, May 13, 2010 3:26:47pm |
re: #228 Decatur Deb
Don’t make Lefties like they used to.
Old lefties and new lefties can be bigots.
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:27:06pm |
re: #228 Decatur Deb
Don’t make Lefties like they used to.
Goodness knows we have ALL made unpopular statements. Eh, ya win a few, ya lose a few. Hope elektra returns.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 3:27:21pm |
re: #224 Reginald Perrin
Because your florid OCD is just getting started… why would I rein it in now?//
Sorry. Old.
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RogueOne Thu, May 13, 2010 3:27:41pm |
re: #226 HoosierHoops
I think It’s going to be a blast living in a collegetown.. I’m going to love being a fan of the Thunder.. I like that team..
A couple of weeks ago we had a tour of folks from Norman to see this facility..
After a while I called a couple of the guys together and asked, What do you think of the Cowboy?’
We hate them!
I really think I’m going to like Oklahoma!
We hoosiers will miss you, you’re our kind of transplant. You’re always welcome back.
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 3:27:49pm |
re: #197 elektramourns
Good bye folks. I do not feel I fit it here. I have enjoyed it.
feh
american politics is not for the thin skinned
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McSpiff Thu, May 13, 2010 3:28:07pm |
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Shiplord Kirel Thu, May 13, 2010 3:28:34pm |
An Inhofe combat vision:
Place: Some godforsaken hellhole on the backside of the planet.
Time: 0300, the near future
WHOMP
WHOMP
WHOMP
WHOMP
WHOMP….
Co-pilot: LZ ahead, got him on IR, just to the left, behind that burned out tank….
Pilot: Got him! Heads-up, guns, this could be hot! Hovering now!
PJ: Sling down……Ok, he’s in the sling. Winch up………Ok he’s in with me.
Rescuee: Goddamn am I glad to see you guys! Been out here 3 days, fucking gomers everywhere!
PJ: Wait a second buster! Is my ass too big for this suit?
Rescuee: What the fuck? Oh, ok, no it’s really kind of cute.
PJ: FAG!! Get the hell out of here!
Rescuee: No! AIEEEE!
SMACK! AIIEEeeeeaieee…THUMP!
Pilot: Is he in, PJ?
PJ: No, had to throw him back.
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 3:28:56pm |
re: #230 MandyManners
Old lefties and new lefties can be bigots.
Oh, you’ve been to Pittsburgh, then.
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 3:29:17pm |
re: #234 engineer dog
feh
american politics is not for the thin skinned
President Barak Obama: “Politics ain’t beanbag.”
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 3:30:23pm |
re: #230 MandyManners
Old lefties and new lefties can be bigots.
True. Flounces like this one are normally caused by an inability to really debate. LGF has always been a place where posts are fact-checked and challenged. Its very hard to be here if you aren’t used to defending your positions with evidence.
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 3:30:23pm |
re: #237 Shiplord Kirel
PJ: Wait a second buster! Is my ass too big for this suit?
We’ll need a new version of DADT.
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RogueOne Thu, May 13, 2010 3:30:45pm |
Taking my wife to dinner to help her calm her nerves. Everyone have a good night.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 3:31:17pm |
re: #240 Dark_Falcon
True. Flounces like this one are normally caused by an inability to really debate. LGF has always been a place where posts are fact-checked and challenged. Its very hard to be here if you aren’t used to defending your positions with evidence.
not really a flounce…just a quiet c’ya….nothing wrong with that
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 3:31:26pm |
re: #242 RogueOne
Taking my wife to dinner to help her calm her nerves. Everyone have a good night.
You do the same, R1.
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 3:31:45pm |
re: #239 Taqyia2Me
President Barak Obama: “Politics ain’t beanbag.”
i’m tempted to paraphrase mao and say ‘a revolution is not a tea(bag) party’
altho in the case of the teabaggers, a revolution is apparantly a lot like a tailgate party
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 3:31:45pm |
re: #214 allegro
That is very cool and the state sure can use the good jobs that the company will be bringing.
Yea..It’s cool..The day we announced it..It was on the front page of all the rags..We were all sending each other links to read in cube land.
The Chamber of Commerce sent us this big box of information.. DVD’s and maps and everything…
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:31:51pm |
re: #229 tradewind
No, it totally works. Especially on women with Daddy issues.
:)
Hate cologne on men, but that faint whiff of Old Spice is great.
heh. i’m just happy it works…otherwise i’ll give off more than a faint whiff;)
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 3:31:56pm |
re: #237 Shiplord Kirel
‘I told him to ditch the sunscreen… warned him what would happen if he kept on slathering himself with the SPF 55, but he was worried about freckles ‘.//
I’m convinced. Inhofe is merely expressing a degree of concern for our military that goes above and beyond.
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MandyManners Thu, May 13, 2010 3:32:05pm |
It’s baseball time. The other nine and 10 year olds are getting into the in-field tonight, and The Kid’s pitching. The other night he caught a ball in the face and has a neat bruise all over his cheek. Right after he got up and walked it off, he caught a ball for an out and threw it to second to get another out. They lost but, his double-play kept the other team from winning big—that team is a travelling team of 12 year olds from a larger city and they are HUGE. I swear some are shaving already.
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 3:32:34pm |
re: #242 RogueOne
Taking my wife to dinner to help her calm her nerves. Everyone have a good night.
Don’t punch the maitre’d.
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McSpiff Thu, May 13, 2010 3:33:07pm |
re: #240 Dark_Falcon
True. Flounces like this one are normally caused by an inability to really debate. LGF has always been a place where posts are fact-checked and challenged. Its very hard to be here if you aren’t used to defending your positions with evidence.
Found my old highschool debating ‘manuals’ the other day. I’ve tempted to scan them and through them up on LGF Pages for a laugh, but I really have no idea who owns the copyright on them. They’re photocopies of photocopies of something off a typewriter, so who knows.
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 3:33:39pm |
re: #249 MandyManners
It’s baseball time. The other nine and 10 year olds are getting into the in-field tonight, and The Kid’s pitching. The other night he caught a ball in the face and has a neat bruise all over his cheek. Right after he got up and walked it off, he caught a ball for an out and threw it to second to get another out. They lost but, his double-play kept the other team from winning big—that team is a travelling team of 12 year olds from a larger city and they are HUGE. I swear some are shaving already.
He sounds like a gamer. I am NOT surprised!
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 3:33:51pm |
re: #219 harald
Erea of expertice?
I’m going to Admin the Network for the first year…Then I’m slotted for Singapore in 14 months
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 3:34:19pm |
re: #251 McSpiff
Found my old highschool debating ‘manuals’ the other day. I’ve tempted to scan them and through them up on LGF Pages for a laugh, but I really have no idea who owns the copyright on them. They’re photocopies of photocopies of something off a typewriter, so who knows.
Go for it.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 3:34:43pm |
re: #243 albusteve
not really a flounce…just a quiet c’ya…nothing wrong with that
True that. Sorry to see her go, though.
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 3:35:15pm |
re: #251 McSpiff
They’re photocopies of photocopies of something off a typewriter
Faxed from a Kinko’s?
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 3:35:45pm |
re: #255 Dark_Falcon
True that. Sorry to see her go, though.
not me…I’ve become totally cold blooded about it
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 3:35:53pm |
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 3:36:44pm |
re: #233 RogueOne
We hoosiers will miss you, you’re our kind of transplant. You’re always welcome back.
I’m be back next May for the Race and there is no way in Hell I’m Missing SuperBowl week! I’ll be staying at Paulie and his wives’ house…
I have made a lot of friends in Indiana..I’ll miss you guys.
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McSpiff Thu, May 13, 2010 3:37:26pm |
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
Go for it.
I’ll see what I can do this weekend. Something to tease each other with at the very least.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 3:38:20pm |
re: #257 albusteve
not me…I’ve become totally cold blooded about it
Now just when the hell were you ever warm-blooded?
Poikilothermic bastard, just like me.
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tradewind Thu, May 13, 2010 3:38:25pm |
Out for a run.
Remember to provide a nurturing environment for newbies./
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 3:38:36pm |
re: #259 HoosierHoops
I’ll be staying at Paulie and his wives’ house…
How many wives does Paulie have?
/just tell me to STFU and get back to work…
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:38:56pm |
re: #255 Dark_Falcon
True that. Sorry to see her go, though.
eh.
“X people are all dumb and evil” isn’t something i’ll miss. have there been some other threads in which she was far more erudite?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 3:39:06pm |
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 3:40:09pm |
re: #264 wrenchwench
How many wives does Paulie have?
/just tell me to STFU and get back to work…
spell check /on
Idiot check /off
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Reginald Perrin Thu, May 13, 2010 3:40:40pm |
re: #240 Dark_Falcon
True. Flounces like this one are normally caused by an inability to really debate. LGF has always been a place where posts are fact-checked and challenged. Its very hard to be here if you aren’t used to defending your positions with evidence.
Exactly!
There are well informed bloggers from both sides of the political spectrum at LFG and so you’re going to get called out if you post comments long on opinion and short on facts.
This isn’t the place to post truthiness.
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 3:41:58pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 3:42:00pm |
re: #267 HoosierHoops
spell check /on
Idiot check /off
You’re too kind.
/I really do need to get back to work…
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 3:42:03pm |
re: #268 Reginald Perrin
Exactly!
There are well informed bloggers from both sides of the political spectrum at LFG and so you’re going to get called out if you post comments long on opinion and short on facts.
This isn’t the place to post truthiness.
Give or take Charles having threads based around what Stephen Colbert did last night.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 13, 2010 3:42:31pm |
Maybe someone here has a sharper recollection …
IIRC Gibbon wrote about the fact that Roman Soldiers actually motivated by fighting for each other which implied something that I think Eugen Weber of UCLA made more explicit in describing that many Soldiers of the empire were homosexual and that the tradition of a white gown at a wedding came into being to simulate the white robe a soldier might wear when not wearing armor.
Not sure that this is simply urban legend now but I am pretty sure it was Weber that first put it out there for contemporary historians to kick around.
If it is factual than it demonstrates support for the opposite of what Inhofe is arguing.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:43:17pm |
re: #271 jamesfirecat
Give or take Charles having threads based around what Stephen Colbert did last night.
…i don’t get it…help…
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Shiplord Kirel Thu, May 13, 2010 3:44:19pm |
It would never occur to Inhofe and his slack-jawed base that he has just defamed everyone who ever served in the US armed forces, as well as confessing to his own complete unfitness to have served.
I would not have let down a fellow soldier for any reason whatever, let alone for a personal quality that did not affect me. It would literally never have crossed my mind.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 3:44:22pm |
re: #262 Cato the Elder
Now just when the hell were you ever warm-blooded?
Poikilothermic bastard, just like me.
heh…had to look that one up
even so I can generate heat by continuous rubbing of certain body parts….what’s the word for that, smart ass?
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 3:45:45pm |
re: #275 albusteve
heh…had to look that one up
even so I can generate heat by continuous rubbing of certain body parts…what’s the word for that, smart ass?
tribadism? frottage?
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McSpiff Thu, May 13, 2010 3:45:54pm |
re: #275 albusteve
heh…had to look that one up
even so I can generate heat by continuous rubbing of certain body parts…what’s the word for that, smart ass?
Do you want the PG answer to that comment or?
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 3:47:03pm |
re: #273 Aceofwhat?
…i don’t get it…help…
“truthiness.” Is a phrase that Stephen Colbert came up with to describe things that aren’t supported by fact, but you feel in your gut “ought to be true” since they mesh well with your current world view.
Reginald Perrin said that LGF is no place to argue based on ones gut rather than logic/facts by saying it was no place for truthiness, but since he said it so literally I was able to make a joke based on the fact that when Charles does a post based around something Stephen Colbert does, he is making LGF a place for “truthiness”….
Tah-dah?
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:47:41pm |
re: #275 albusteve
heh…had to look that one up
even so I can generate heat by continuous rubbing of certain body parts…what’s the word for that, smart ass?
solitude…
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ShaunP Thu, May 13, 2010 3:48:16pm |
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 3:49:17pm |
re: #278 cliffster
you are a master debater
i was a little startled the other night to hear a radio ad offering a “special rebate mastercard”
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:50:25pm |
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 3:52:34pm |
re: #230 MandyManners
Old lefties and new lefties can be bigots.
But we stand in the shadow of the true experts at it, the rabid right.
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 3:53:30pm |
re: #286 b_sharp
But we stand in the shadow of the true experts at it, the rabid right.
As for myself, I’d call it a tie.
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M. Dubious Thu, May 13, 2010 3:54:02pm |
re: #253 HoosierHoops
Ah! Reason I asked was you wrote ‘building’ - thought we might be in similar kind of work. Anyway, bedtime in this corner of the world. Good nite ya’ll.
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Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 3:54:18pm |
re: #230 MandyManners
Old lefties and new lefties can be bigots.
We can do anything we set our minds to.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 3:54:54pm |
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Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 3:55:44pm |
re: #286 b_sharp
But we stand in the shadow of the true experts at it, the rabid right.
And the unhinged Center doesn’t get a pass.
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webevintage Thu, May 13, 2010 3:58:38pm |
You know, Inhofe is one of those socon douchebags that no longer surprise me with the filth that spews from their pie holes.
What a bastard.
How offensive.
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 3:58:41pm |
re: #286 b_sharp
But we stand in the shadow of the true experts at it, the rabid right.
i didn’t get any takers on my question above about who are the equivalent of limbaugh and beck on the left
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 3:59:57pm |
re: #293 engineer dog
i didn’t get any takers on my question above about who are the equivalent of limbaugh and beck on the left
Olbermann, Matthews…
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Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 4:00:48pm |
re: #293 engineer dog
i didn’t get any takers on my question above about who are the equivalent of limbaugh and beck on the left
Hm… Jeanine Garofalo can be pretty embarrassing.
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 4:01:07pm |
re: #293 engineer dog
i didn’t get any takers on my question above about who are the equivalent of limbaugh and beck on the left
I nominate Keith Obermann…His spiel about the worst person in the world is disgusting and childish
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 4:01:43pm |
OT: Mubai has learned from the terror attacks there:
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:01:45pm |
UH-OH, prepare for a hideous wailing and gnashing of teeth
Moderate Republicans back Kagan on hot-button issues
Top Republicans have also highlighted the fact that Kagan has never served as a federal judge, something that distinguishes her from all nine current members of the high court.
If party moderates break from the GOP leadership on these issues, it dramatically increases Kagan’s chances of overcoming a possible filibuster and winning confirmation as the country’s 112th Supreme Court justice.
Massachusetts GOP Sen. Scott Brown — who broke the Democrats’ 60-member filibuster-proof majority by winning the late Ted Kennedy’s seat in January — said after meeting with Kagan that he is satisfied she supports members of the military.
“It was the first question I actually asked her because, having been in the military, I had concerns about [her] position at Harvard,” Brown said.
“It was very clear to me, after we spoke about it at length, that she is supportive of the men and women who are fighting to protect us and very supportive of the military as a whole. I do not feel that her judicial philosophy will not hurt the men and women who are serving.”
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 13, 2010 4:02:31pm |
Bigotry is simply having a hardened mind -unwilling to change one’s opinion and intolerant of those that differ.
The Interwebs are full of bigots. In many ways it is very efficient ate creating bigots.
It is always appropriate to point it out, IMO. It is always striking when someone says s/he doesn’t “fit in” - as if they go online to seek a codependent relationship to reinforce their bigotry.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:02:34pm |
re: #297 HoosierHoops
I nominate Keith Obermann…His spiel about the worst person in the world is disgusting and childish
there’s one guy I would openly taunt in a saloon….maybe knock him out for kicks
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:03:16pm |
re: #297 HoosierHoops
I nominate Keith Obermann…His spiel about the worst person in the world is disgusting and childish
I’ll give you that Obermann seems to be more or less the left’s equivalent of Rush at times, but really there’s no one left who has the same level of A: Insanity, B: Publicity/ability to make their words word and C: number of followers are Beck has.
Glenn Beck is in a class all by himself there really is no silver medal to be given out in that race….
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:03:43pm |
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 4:04:08pm |
re: #301 albusteve
there’s one guy I would openly taunt in a saloon…maybe knock him out for kicks
…or at least roll for his pocket change!
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Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 4:04:13pm |
re: #294 Taqyia2Me
Olbermann, Matthews…
I’m always puzzled to see Mathews mentioned in these discussions. He voted for Bush as recently as 2004, and there were plenty of times when he professed his love for the Shrub.
Mathews is a very different beast.
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:04:16pm |
re: #293 engineer dog
i didn’t get any takers on my question above about who are the equivalent of limbaugh and beck on the left
I suspect there are some, but from my vantage point the crazy isn’t quite the same. Mind you the Symbionese Liberation Army style left are pretty out there.
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What, me worry? Thu, May 13, 2010 4:04:30pm |
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:05:08pm |
re: #302 jamesfirecat
I’ll give you that Obermann seems to be more or less the left’s equivalent of Rush at times, but really there’s no one left who has the same level of A: Insanity, B: Publicity/ability to make their words word and C: number of followers are Beck has.
Glenn Beck is in a class all by himself there really is no silver medal to be given out in that race…
America’s problem is not G Beck…America’s problem are the people that agree with him….or even listen to him
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:05:32pm |
re: #297 HoosierHoops
I nominate Keith Obermann…His spiel about the worst person in the world is disgusting and childish
Is he as bad as Limbaugh or Beck?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 4:05:50pm |
re: #18 tradewind
Maybe it’s naivete on my part, but I have a hard time believing that even the most die-hard homophobe would use that as a reason to fail to defend a fellow soldier.
Has Inhofe never seen M.A.S.H.?
Even Ferret Face Burns would never have left Klinger in the lurch.
Well, yes, but Klinger was straight.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 4:05:56pm |
re: #275 albusteve
heh…had to look that one up
even so I can generate heat by continuous rubbing of certain body parts…what’s the word for that, smart ass?
Frictional thermal self-regulation.
But it will make hair grow on your palms.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 13, 2010 4:06:05pm |
Kagen is a blank slate.
Smart, articulate, learned and focused. If she is an ethical person then she will be fine on the court. Given she can’t be fired from the job she will follow her mind and the law - two things she has good command of.
Ideologues fear her on the left and right which is probably not a bad thing.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:06:05pm |
re: #303 Walter L. Newton
I’ve never seen a bigot on the left.
A white male hegemonisitic oppressive phallocrat would say say that.
/
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webevintage Thu, May 13, 2010 4:06:12pm |
Just because we like to have balance in the universe does not mean that there has to be a left side equivalent to Beck and Limbaugh.
No one comes close to the sheer crazy that Beck exhibits or the arrogance of Limbaugh.
They are the best con men around.
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:06:36pm |
re: #308 albusteve
America’s problem is not G Beck…America’s problem are the people that agree with him…or even listen to him
I (shocked as I am to say it) Glenn Beck is only a symptom, he would not be on the air (doubtlessly not on Rupert Murdoch’s personal money machine, AKA Fox) if he wasn’t able to pick up enough viewers to make Murdoch money.
The only reason Glenn has a show is because he’s finding a need and he’s supplying what people with that need want.
Which makes me feel very very sad about America….
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:07:23pm |
re: #311 Cato the Elder
Frictional thermal self-regulation.
But it will make hair grow on your palms.
My father once told me that I would go blind doing that.
I told him, “Dad, I’m over here.”
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:07:39pm |
re: #313 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
A white male hegemonisitic oppressive phallocrat would say say that.
/
No… I’ve really never seen a bigot on the left.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 4:07:48pm |
re: #27 albusteve
in a gunfight…lead flying, RPGs…confusion, checking cover, searching for the bad guys…men pinned down, others maneuvering, radio chatter, yelling…SNAP DECISION!…fuck Bob over there, he’s gay
Perhaps THAT’S what Inhofe is concerned about. Hanky-panky during firefights!
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:07:56pm |
re: #302 jamesfirecat
I’ll give you that Obermann seems to be more or less the left’s equivalent of Rush at times, but really there’s no one left who has the same level of A: Insanity, B: Publicity/ability to make their words word and C: number of followers are Beck has.
Glenn Beck is in a class all by himself there really is no silver medal to be given out in that race…
i was about to say that
as a progressive, i could be embarrassed by the ad calling general petraeus ‘general betray-us’, and think that perhaps naomi wolf is a bit alarmist, but i think the right is winning in the sheer mass of counterfactual and illogical
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 4:08:07pm |
re: #302 jamesfirecat
I’ll give you that Obermann seems to be more or less the left’s equivalent of Rush at times, but really there’s no one left who has the same level of A: Insanity, B: Publicity/ability to make their words word and C: number of followers are Beck has.
Glenn Beck is in a class all by himself there really is no silver medal to be given out in that race…
Agreed..
If I had a dollar for every time I said Beck was a clown we would all be in an LA nightclub making it rain money and taking bets on who Lindsey Lohan is going to throw a drink at before 5am…
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webevintage Thu, May 13, 2010 4:08:18pm |
re: #315 jamesfirecat
Which makes me feel very very sad about America…
If it makes you feel any better Beck’s ratings were off by 30%….
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 4:09:24pm |
re: #315 jamesfirecat
I (shocked as I am to say it) Glenn Beck is only a symptom, he would not be on the air (doubtlessly not on Rupert Murdoch’s personal money machine, AKA Fox) if he wasn’t able to pick up enough viewers to make Murdoch money.
The only reason Glenn has a show is because he’s finding a need and he’s supplying what people with that need want.
Which makes me feel very very sad about America…
Cheer up, it’s no different now than it ever was. Probably better now, actually. But now we have the internet to give a voice to every screeching monkey with a PC and a keyboard.
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 4:09:32pm |
re: #305 Nimed
I’m always puzzled to see Mathews mentioned in these discussions. He voted for Bush as recently as 2004, and there were plenty of times when he professed his love for the Shrub.
Mathews is a very different beast.
He certainly tried and convicted the Haditha Marines and the Navy Seals and the existence of Gitmo….and…he was, of course, 100% wrong, as the acquittals and exonerations have proven…
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ShaunP Thu, May 13, 2010 4:09:48pm |
re: #321 webevintage
If it makes you feel any better Beck’s ratings were off by 30%…
That actually does make me feel better…
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, May 13, 2010 4:09:55pm |
re: #320 HoosierHoops
Agreed..
If I had a dollar for every time I said Beck was a clown we would all be in an LA nightclub making it rain money and taking bets on who Lindsey Lohan is going to throw a drink at before 5am…
Beck can afford to do just that, with what he is being paid, to be such a clown!
*waves*
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:09:55pm |
re: #314 webevintage
Just because we like to have balance in the universe does not mean that there has to be a left side equivalent to Beck and Limbaugh.
No one comes close to the sheer crazy that Beck exhibits or the arrogance of Limbaugh.They are the best con men around.
BO towers above those guys….they are entertainers, he’s the POTUS
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Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 4:10:41pm |
re: #200 engineer dog
democrats feel besieged by the army of latter-day father coughlins on the right who are unconstrained by any accountability of any kind, e.g. limbaugh, beck, savage. this is quite apart from ordinary, respectable republicans
are there ‘liberal’ counterparts to this army of psychotics and pathological liars?
How could we forget? Big Podesta!
Wow, big Podesta was almost not mentioned in this thread.
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:11:29pm |
the most bigoted, ignorant, and generally annoying people i’ve run across on the left don’t have nationally syndicated radio and tv shows
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ShaunP Thu, May 13, 2010 4:11:43pm |
re: #326 albusteve
BO towers above those guys…they are entertainers, he’s the POTUS
Are you really suggesting that BO is as bat-shit, conspiracy crazy as Glen Beck? Or did you forget your /
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:11:55pm |
re: #322 cliffster
Cheer up, it’s no different now than it ever was. Probably better now, actually. But now we have the internet to give a voice to every screeching monkey with a PC and a keyboard.
Except that Glenn Beck isn’t on the internet he’s on TV.
///Hmm… I wonder if we can consider what he’s done to our nation enough of a crime to get Rupert Murdoch deported back to the land of Kangaroos and boomerangs….
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McSpiff Thu, May 13, 2010 4:12:27pm |
re: #326 albusteve
BO towers above those guys…they are entertainers, he’s the POTUS
and he acts accordingly.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 4:12:45pm |
re: #102 Cato the Elder
Because alone among armies in the history of the world, our American soldiers have never raped, pillaged, or told little white lies…
The IDF doesn’t rape—because they’re pathological racists.
Anyone remember that bizarre paper a while back?
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:12:57pm |
re: #329 ShaunP
Are you really suggesting that BO is as bat-shit, conspiracy crazy as Glen Beck? Or did you forget your /
Steve has started his ‘baiting’ a little early is all.
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Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 4:13:02pm |
re: #318 SanFranciscoZionist
Perhaps THAT’S what Inhofe is concerned about. Hanky-panky during firefights!
Maybe Inhofe has seen Crash recently.
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, May 13, 2010 4:13:14pm |
Late to the game and only a drive by post:
If I were in a gunfight and some dude next to me were laying waste and kicking trash alongside me. I don’t really think what he does in his off time would really come to play during the fight.
///*bullet whizzes by*
Screaming, “So I hear you are gay!?”
*Grenades…Explosions*
*Whizzing of bullet again*
“You heard right.”
*Another bullet whizzes by*
*Screams* *More explosions*
“WHY YOU ROTTEN!!?” GAHHHH!!!
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 4:13:22pm |
re: #325 Floral Giraffe
Beck can afford to do just that, with what he is being paid, to be such a clown!
*waves*
Hi You!
Didn’t Fortune report Beck pulled in 32 Million last year?
I’m this close to calling somebody..And I don’t care who.. Either a socialist, Commie or Hitler for ratings…
Come on America..Follow me
*wink*
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:13:41pm |
re: #330 jamesfirecat
Except that Glenn Beck isn’t on the internet he’s on TV.
///Hmm… I wonder if we can consider what he’s done to our nation enough of a crime to get Rupert Murdoch deported back to the land of Kangaroos and boomerangs…
I wonder if we can consider what he’s done as FUCKING FREEDOM OF SPEECH whether you like it or not… who the fuck else would you like to stifle for what they say?
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:13:56pm |
re: #329 ShaunP
Are you really suggesting that BO is as bat-shit, conspiracy crazy as Glen Beck? Or did you forget your /
who knows what BO believes, that doesn’t matter…he conned his way into the WH…he made pizza pie outa horse shit
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 4:13:58pm |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 4:14:32pm |
re: #299 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
UH-OH, prepare for a hideous wailing and gnashing of teeth
I expect Scott Brown to be fully demonized as a RINO by the end of the year. Hell, if Glenn Beck really works at it, maybe he can ever get Brown to switch parties! Wouldn’t that be fun?!
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lostlakehiker Thu, May 13, 2010 4:14:33pm |
re: #134 elektramourns
It is so sad to see poor backwards Sothern states—I live in one—who tow the Republican line. Racism started it, abetted by Strom Thurmond when he became a Dixiecrat, then a Republican. And when a state has 2 GOP US SEnators, I know they are probably the worse off of all.
The GOP cares not a fig for the wellbeing of the vast majority of a state’s residents.
So when a Republican mayor is elected in say NYC, after Dinkins, we should expect the economy to go down and the crime rate to go up? Same with a Republican governor in NJ?
Oh, and since by your own report you’re from a Sothern state, that would explain why you don’t tow the line when it comes to spelling. But don’t worry, you’re not the worse speller at LGF.
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allegro Thu, May 13, 2010 4:14:50pm |
re: #328 engineer dog
the most bigoted, ignorant, and generally annoying people i’ve run across on the left don’t have nationally syndicated radio and tv shows
My first reaction reading Walter’s comment was, no, I don’t think there really aren’t any bigots on the left. But now that I think about it, I can honestly say that I’ve never met one either. Annoying yes, absolutely, but bigoted or even ignorant, no. I really don’t recall ever meeting a bigot on the left.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:14:54pm |
re: #317 Walter L. Newton
No… I’ve really never seen a bigot on the left.
A bigot (in modern usage) is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of different ethnicity, race, or class.
I’m fairly sure the people who called me and several other Marines and Sailors violent sociopaths and war criminals could be considered bigots and leftists.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:14:57pm |
re: #333 b_sharp
Steve has started his ‘baiting’ a little early is all.
I see you are a big fan of Lud….disagreement is now baiting, and victimization is right behind…hahaha!
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:14:59pm |
re: #337 Walter L. Newton
I wonder if we can consider what he’s done as FUCKING FREEDOM OF SPEECH whether you like it or not… who the fuck else would you like to stifle for what they say?
Dude did you notice the sarc tag?
I have no problem with Glenn Beck saying whatever crazy things comes to his mind.
Is it okay with you if I feel disappointed that so many of my fellow Americans buy into the clap trap that Beck is selling hand over fist?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, May 13, 2010 4:15:43pm |
re: #303 Walter L. Newton
I’ve never seen a bigot on the left.
Cynthia McKinney
Ralph Nader
Al Sharpton
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:15:46pm |
re: #340 Dark_Falcon
I expect Scott Brown to be fully demonized as a RINO by the end of the year. Hell, if Glenn Beck really works at it, maybe he can ever get Brown to switch parties! Wouldn’t that be fun?!
///But you can’t own a truck and be a democrat!
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:16:05pm |
re: #337 Walter L. Newton
I wonder if we can consider what he’s done as FUCKING FREEDOM OF SPEECH whether you like it or not… who the fuck else would you like to stifle for what they say?
OMG!…Walters baiting!
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 4:16:30pm |
re: #339 SanFranciscoZionist
We don’t talk about that any more. The Weathermen, but not that.
To be fair, if I remember correctly, the common knowledge was that was all our troops did that in Vietnam…
…the it was given rebirth in the false Haditha story and the flase Navy Seals Fallujah story…
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 4:16:35pm |
re: #342 allegro
My first reaction reading Walter’s comment was, no, I don’t think there really aren’t any bigots on the left. But now that I think about it, I can honestly say that I’ve never met one either. Annoying yes, absolutely, but bigoted or even ignorant, no. I really don’t recall ever meeting a bigot on the left.
oh, brother
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, May 13, 2010 4:16:57pm |
re: #346 Alouette
No fair, Cynthia is just bugnut crazy!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:17:28pm |
re: #346 Alouette
Cynthia McKinney
Ralph Nader
Al Sharpton
First off, two of those people you mentioned are black, they can’t be bigots or racists… secondly one is a woman, and classify her as a bigot is in itself bigoted… that leaves us with Nader. What has Nader been bigoted about?
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:18:03pm |
glen beck is either a paranoid schizophrenic or a very cynical charlatan
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 13, 2010 4:18:13pm |
re: #341 lostlakehiker
I am the worst speller at LGF.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:18:22pm |
re: #351 Floral Giraffe
No fair, Cynthia is just bugnut crazy!
Ms. McKinney is passionate, very out spoken, but she is not nuts.
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 4:18:38pm |
A new “Gay Trooper” perspective from a female friend who worked with the Army for 30 yrs:
“Of course they’ll fight for their gay buddies. They’ve been fighting for the guys who’ve been screwing their wives.”
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:18:44pm |
re: #352 Walter L. Newton
First off, two of those people you mentioned are black, they can’t be bigots or racists… secondly one is a woman, and classify her as a bigot is in itself bigoted… that leaves us with Nader. What has Nader been bigoted about?
Corvairs
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 4:18:52pm |
re: #353 engineer dog
glen beck is either a paranoid schizophrenic or a very cynical charlatan
It’s all about the Benjamins for Beck, imho…
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, May 13, 2010 4:18:56pm |
re: #353 engineer dog
glen beck is either a paranoid schizophrenic or a very well paid cynical charlatan
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:19:12pm |
re: #353 engineer dog
glen beck is either a paranoid schizophrenic or a very cynical charlatan
Evidently you have no idea what the medical condition “paranoid schizophrenic” entails, or else you would not even have suggested that.
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:19:22pm |
re: #344 albusteve
I see you are a big fan of Lud…disagreement is now baiting, and victimization is right behind…hahaha!
Funny, many others on the right say things I disagree with but I don’t consider them to be baiting. You must be special in some way. Don’t ya think?
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webevintage Thu, May 13, 2010 4:19:30pm |
re: #354 karmic_inquisitor
I am the worst speller at LGF.
Hello my name is Julie and I am a poor speller….
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Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 4:19:48pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:19:52pm |
re: #357 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Corvairs
Well, I wasn’t kidding, I wanted a straight answer, guess I’ll have to keep looking.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 4:20:34pm |
re: #314 webevintage
Just because we like to have balance in the universe does not mean that there has to be a left side equivalent to Beck and Limbaugh.
No one comes close to the sheer crazy that Beck exhibits or the arrogance of Limbaugh.They are the best con men around.
Barring Sigma-x, of course.
Oh, wait.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:21:05pm |
re: #361 b_sharp
Funny, many others on the right say things I disagree with but I don’t consider them to be baiting. You must be special in some way. Don’t ya think?
in your mind yes
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, May 13, 2010 4:21:18pm |
re: #352 Walter L. Newton
First off, two of those people you mentioned are black, they can’t be bigots or racists… secondly one is a woman, and classify her as a bigot is in itself bigoted… that leaves us with Nader. What has Nader been bigoted about?
Seriously, you don’t think a person of color can be racist? Color against color?
Chinese or Japanese or Mongol or whatever. It’s not just black or white.
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McSpiff Thu, May 13, 2010 4:21:25pm |
re: #360 Walter L. Newton
Evidently you have no idea what the medical condition “paranoid schizophrenic” entails, or else you would not even have suggested that.
Ah some of his early “God spoke to me” stuff, if meant literally might get us into the realm.
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 4:22:27pm |
re: #355 Walter L. Newton
Ms. McKinney is passionate, very out spoken, but she is not nuts.
Isn’t she the one that claimed there are 5000 bodies out in the swamp that the GOP killed during Katrina?
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ShaunP Thu, May 13, 2010 4:22:31pm |
re: #367 Floral Giraffe
Seriously, you don’t think a person of color can be racist? Color against color?
Chinese or Japanese or Mongol or whatever. It’s not just black or white.
There are plenty of antisemitic blacks…
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darthstar Thu, May 13, 2010 4:22:40pm |
The difference between talking to an Apple “Genius” and an Apple “Genius” Supervisor? 306 dollars. Can’t stay as I’ve got to run up to the city for dinner, but thought I’d share the good news.
Play nice, everyone.
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:22:40pm |
re: #342 allegro
My first reaction reading Walter’s comment was, no, I don’t think there really aren’t any bigots on the left. But now that I think about it, I can honestly say that I’ve never met one either. Annoying yes, absolutely, but bigoted or even ignorant, no. I really don’t recall ever meeting a bigot on the left.
keeping in mind that my viewpoint is pretty far to the left, i’ve been offended to meet e.g. black people who claim that all real jews are black and that white jews like myself are ‘white ghosts’ who stole judaism from them, other black folk who claimed that i benefitted from slavery since my ancestors had owned slaves (whereas my ancestors at that time were probably dodging cossaks in the shtetl), and then also i’ve met some lesbians who had some bigoted things to say about straight men
but like i say, nobody gives them national airtime to propogate views like this, and i hear the equivalent and worse over the air everyday from beck, savage, and rush et al.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:22:43pm |
So… I was checking out this woman last night, older woman, and she had one of these National Inquirer type news papers in her basket… I pick it up after scanning it and make believe I’m reading a headline… “Lucille Ball Found Alive.”
I though this woman was going to pass out from laughing. I’m going to add this to my Stand Up Grocery Cashier Bits… reading phony headlines on pop culture magazines.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:23:18pm |
anybody that suggests bigotry is limited to a particular group or party, are themselves a bigot
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:23:19pm |
re: #367 Floral Giraffe
Seriously, you don’t think a person of color can be racist? Color against color?
Chinese or Japanese or Mongol or whatever. It’s not just black or white.
Of course, anybody can be racist, it isn’t just a white thing by any means.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:23:24pm |
re: #369 HoosierHoops
Isn’t she the one that claimed there are 5000 bodies out in the swamp that the GOP killed during Katrina?
Are you absolutely sure there isn’t?
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McSpiff Thu, May 13, 2010 4:23:39pm |
re: #373 Walter L. Newton
So… I was checking out this woman last night, older woman, and she had one of these National Inquirer type news papers in her basket… I pick it up after scanning it and make believe I’m reading a headline… “Lucille Ball Found Alive.”
I though this woman was going to pass out from laughing. I’m going to add this to my Stand Up Grocery Cashier Bits… reading phony headlines on pop culture magazines.
Turns out she’s been living in sin with Bat Boy.
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:23:51pm |
re: #369 HoosierHoops
Isn’t she the one that claimed there are 5000 bodies out in the swamp that the GOP killed during Katrina?
cite?
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Soap_Man Thu, May 13, 2010 4:24:05pm |
re: #361 b_sharp
OT: I hate to do it, but I promised I would. Not to long ago, our LGF Canucks fan, one b_sharp, said:
Stop it. The Hawks are cooked. They will be plucked, boiled, dosed with lighter fluid and burnt. Their entrails will feed the dogs.
To which I have to respond with:
Okay. Now that I have that out of my system, we can get back to more important things.
Inhofe is an ass. That is all.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, May 13, 2010 4:24:23pm |
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:24:53pm |
re: #360 Walter L. Newton
Evidently you have no idea what the medical condition “paranoid schizophrenic” entails, or else you would not even have suggested that.
perhaps not. i defer to anybody with a professional background in the subject
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 4:24:58pm |
re: #379 Soap_Man
OT: I hate to do it, but I promised I would. Not to long ago, our LGF Canucks fan, one b_sharp, said:
To which I have to respond with:[Video]
Okay. Now that I have that out of my system, we can get back to more important things.
Inhofe is an ass. That is all.
Think the Hawks can take the Sharks??
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Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 4:25:03pm |
In the words of one white officer following the overwhelming Union victory at Nashville, Tennessee: “I have often heard men say that they would not fight beside a Negro soldier but on the 16th the whites and blacks charged together and they fell just as well as we did. When you hear any one say that Negro soldiers won’t fight just tell them that, I have seen a great many fighting for our country.”
[Link: www.9thcavalry.com…]
We’ve done this dance before. I want a better DJ.
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ShaunP Thu, May 13, 2010 4:25:16pm |
re: #380 Floral Giraffe
FTFY
Unfortunately; you’re absolutely right. I never said otherwise; just stating a point…
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, May 13, 2010 4:25:26pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:25:31pm |
re: #378 engineer dog
cite?
“Department of Defense homicide accusation
On September 28, 2008, at a press conference, McKinney announced that she had spoken with a constituent whose son was a National Guardsman. The constituent claimed her son had disposed of 5,000 bodies for the Department of Defense during the week of Hurricane Katrina. She further believed that there were credible reports that the bodies were prisoners who had all been crushed by tanks, shot in the head, painted blue, and dumped in a Louisiana swamp. McKinney said that the story had been corroborated by anonymous “insider” sources.[54][55]”
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 4:25:36pm |
re: #379 Soap_Man
OT: I hate to do it, but I promised I would. Not to long ago, our LGF Canucks fan, one b_sharp, said:
To which I have to respond with:
[Video]Okay. Now that I have that out of my system, we can get back to more important things.Inhofe is an ass. That is all.
Don’t sell it short: The Blackhawks kicking Canadian butt is an important thing.
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Soap_Man Thu, May 13, 2010 4:25:48pm |
re: #382 Taqyia2Me
Think the Hawks can take the Sharks??
I think they are the most talented team left in the playoffs.
So yes. Yes I do.
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McSpiff Thu, May 13, 2010 4:25:51pm |
re: #379 Soap_Man
OT: I hate to do it, but I promised I would. Not to long ago, our LGF Canucks fan, one b_sharp, said:
To which I have to respond with:
[Video]Okay. Now that I have that out of my system, we can get back to more important things.Inhofe is an ass. That is all.
As a Montreal fan, I gotta say… sure feels good don’t it?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:26:02pm |
re: #381 engineer dog
perhaps not. i defer to anybody with a professional background in the subject
I probably qualify…
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:26:06pm |
re: #379 Soap_Man
OT: I hate to do it, but I promised I would. Not to long ago, our LGF Canucks fan, one b_sharp, said:
To which I have to respond with:
[Video]Okay. Now that I have that out of my system, we can get back to more important things.Inhofe is an ass. That is all.
I am now a Boston Bruin’s fan.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:26:25pm |
re: #378 engineer dog
cite?
Cynthia McKinney: Government Murdered 5,000 People During Katrina And Dumped Them In A Swamp
“”In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, I had a woman, I’ve never really said this in public, out loud, in front of a lot of cameras, and there’s a lot of cameras in this room now. I had a mother to call me because her son had a very gruesome task. Her son’s charge by the Department of Defense was to process 5000 bodies that had received a single bullet wound to the head — and these were mostly males. And her son was afraid to talk because he signed a silence agreement. So, he only complained to his mother. But, the date about these individuals was entered into a Pentagon computer and then reportedly, the bodies were dumped in a swamp in Louisiana. This is as a result of the tragedy of hurricane Katrina.
Now I have no…no…I have verification from insiders who wish to remain anonymous, at the Red Cross, that this is true. I suspect that these were prisoners. And so, you know, this investigation of the whole prison industrial complex is extremely important. And it should not end with just a question of the nature of prisons in our country, but these five thousand souls also need some justice too.” — Cynthia McKinney
There is video out there too.
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 4:26:46pm |
re: #367 Floral Giraffe
Seriously, you don’t think a person of color can be racist? Color against color?
Chinese or Japanese or Mongol or whatever. It’s not just black or white.
My mom is mexican. One of my sisters got married to a hispanic man and when she got engaged, my mom tried everything she could to talk her out of it. Don’t be getting married to no machismo jerk.. you want to have little brown babies? She’s pretty bad - her first husband was mexican and cheated on her. So did my sister’s husband. Que será será, I suppose.
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ShaunP Thu, May 13, 2010 4:26:49pm |
re: #386 Walter L. Newton
“Department of Defense homicide accusation
On September 28, 2008, at a press conference, McKinney announced that she had spoken with a constituent whose son was a National Guardsman. The constituent claimed her son had disposed of 5,000 bodies for the Department of Defense during the week of Hurricane Katrina. She further believed that there were credible reports that the bodies were prisoners who had all been crushed by tanks, shot in the head, painted blue, and dumped in a Louisiana swamp. McKinney said that the story had been corroborated by anonymous “insider” sources.[54][55]”[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
Painted blue?!?!?
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 4:26:52pm |
re: #378 engineer dog
cite?
May I remind everyone here that Walter, like me, scorns sarc tags?
You’re having a good run tonight, Walter.
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:27:10pm |
re: #387 Dark_Falcon
Don’t sell it short: The Blackhawks kicking Canadian butt is an important thing.
How many of the players on the Hawks are Canuck?
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 4:27:28pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 4:27:29pm |
re: #373 Walter L. Newton
So… I was checking out this woman last night
Had to remember you’re a cashier to get the meaning…
I’m going to add this to my Stand Up Grocery Cashier Bits… reading phony headlines on pop culture magazines.
Mr. w is very good at that. He reads phony stuff from the newspaper, he used to make up crazy, yet believable synopses of a soap opera we used to watch. It can drive a person nuts, or make them laugh there butts off.
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:27:44pm |
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 4:27:47pm |
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:27:59pm |
re: #394 ShaunP
Painted blue?!?!?
Disguising the enemy as members of the Blue Man Group was started back during the Carter administration during his purge campaign.
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webevintage Thu, May 13, 2010 4:28:01pm |
This is why science is cool and why you want the smartest people working in the government:
Exclusive: How Steven Chu Used Gamma Rays to Save the Planet
[Link: www.theatlantic.com…]
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 4:28:11pm |
re: #386 Walter L. Newton
“Department of Defense homicide accusation
On September 28, 2008, at a press conference, McKinney announced that she had spoken with a constituent whose son was a National Guardsman. The constituent claimed her son had disposed of 5,000 bodies for the Department of Defense during the week of Hurricane Katrina. She further believed that there were credible reports that the bodies were prisoners who had all been crushed by tanks, shot in the head, painted blue, and dumped in a Louisiana swamp. McKinney said that the story had been corroborated by anonymous “insider” sources.[54][55]”[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
Thanks Walter…I never have any good links saved…I just remember what I read..
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 4:28:16pm |
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McSpiff Thu, May 13, 2010 4:28:23pm |
re: #395 Cato the Elder
May I remind everyone here that Walter, like me, scorns sarc tags?
You’re having a good run tonight, Walter.
Shhh, its much more entertaining this way. I don’t even agree with Walter and I’m getting a kick out of it.
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 4:28:26pm |
re: #388 Soap_Man
I think they are the most talented team left in the playoffs.
So yes. Yes I do.
I hope you’re right! Been since before I can remember (‘61?) since the Hawks toasted Lord Stanley.
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:28:36pm |
re: #389 McSpiff
As a Montreal fan, I gotta say… sure feels good don’t it?
Montreal is doing well, their goal tending is nuts. I may have to start cheering for them if Boston tanks.
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Soap_Man Thu, May 13, 2010 4:29:16pm |
re: #396 b_sharp
How many of the players on the Hawks are Canuck?
A fine point. Most of them, like any NHL team. In fact, of the six Hawks who played in the Olympics, four played for Canada.
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Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 4:29:34pm |
re: #383 JasonA
I kind of take this back. This totally different. Our boys already have been fighting alongside gays and lesbians for, like, ever.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:30:01pm |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 4:31:07pm |
re: #383 JasonA
[Link: www.9thcavalry.com…]
We’ve done this dance before. I want a better DJ.
To cite a slightly later example would be to note the the white 1st Cavalry Regiment saw nothing wrong in fighting beside the black 10th Cavalry Regiment at both the Battle of San Juan Hill and the relief of the Peking Legations two years later. At San Juan hill, the color bearer of the 10th carried the flags of both regiment after the 1st’s bearer was shot. Both regiments respected each other as worthy and honor comrades. Inhofe doesn’t know anything about combat, or much else for that matter.
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engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:31:36pm |
re: #397 Aceofwhat?
seriously? you didn’t hear it when she said that?
missed it
i am tempted to write her to complete the circle of confirmation since i find it hard to believe. sounds like nutzig stuff
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HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 4:32:15pm |
re: #412 albusteve
worse…a fair weather wagon jumper
That is so true!
I have been a lifelong Golden State fan and Giants Fan…I continue to be punished on a yearly basis
| 417 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:32:30pm |
Hawaii to Birthers: Enough Already
“The time and state resources it takes to respond to these often convoluted inquiries are considerable,” testified Fukino, who has repeatedly stated that she has seen the president’s vital records showing that he was born in the United States.
While the law is relatively broad - it allows all state government agencies to ignore duplicate or very similar requests - it appears to have been crafted specifically to deal with requests from birthers.
State Sen. Will Espero told the Advertiser the new law will help, though the problem isn’t going away.
“It will certainly provide some relief and help that Department of Health staff [needs], although I don’t think it will by any means put an end to the birther issue,” he told the newspaper. “There are people out there, and mostly from the Mainland, who are just rabid about this and I don’t think anything we provide or give them will convince them otherwise.”
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Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 4:32:49pm |
re: #413 Dark_Falcon
Inhofe doesn’t know anything about combat, or much else for that matter.
Isn’t he the one that knows the AGW denier talking points like the back of his hand?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:32:54pm |
re: #398 wrenchwench
Mr. w is very good at that. He reads phony stuff from the newspaper, he used to make up crazy, yet believable synopses of a soap opera we used to watch. It can drive a person nuts, or make them laugh there butts off.
I’ve really taken on the persona of being sort of a Standup Grocery Store Cashier/Comic… it’s natural for me anyway, it makes each shift feel like a performance at the theatre, which I’ve done a lot of, and it’s really a natural for “engaging” the customer, since that is very important to our job.
And it’s sort of fun to come up with some new material ever few weeks to rotate into the check out routine.
Could there be a book in the making?
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:33:34pm |
re: #416 HoosierHoops
That is so true!
I have been a lifelong Golden State fan and Giants Fan…I continue to be punished on a yearly basis
I’m a displaced Cowboy fan….everybody has always hated me…sniff
| 421 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:33:41pm |
re: #416 HoosierHoops
That is so true!
I have been a lifelong Golden State fan and Giants Fan…I continue to be punished on a yearly basis
Invest in war gaming, then you can be your own fan, team and coach all in one.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 4:33:48pm |
re: #415 engineer dog
missed it
i am tempted to write her to complete the circle of confirmation since i find it hard to believe. sounds like nutzig stuff
come on, dude. that was so par for her course that it was almost a birdie. we don’t ask Bachmann to verify the crazy…because we know she’s crazy.
CM is in the same league…
| 423 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:34:06pm |
re: #420 albusteve
I’m a displaced Cowboy fan…everybody has always hated me…sniff
I like your cheerleaders.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:35:29pm |
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 13, 2010 4:36:02pm |
re: #417 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Saw that earlier.
Wondered if Hawaii would have been better off to host a “nirth research institoot” and exploit the existential need some of these folks have for Obama to be foreign born. Exploit it. Employ people. pack a few more planes a week. Host it at a leper’s colony.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 4:36:05pm |
re: #418 JasonA
Isn’t he the one that knows the AGW denier talking points like the back of his hand?
yup. he’s a peach.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 4:36:48pm |
One way you can tell that people like McKinney are nutsopocalyptic is that they always use round numbers.
5,000 bodies. No more, no less. Prisoners, they were, and nobody knows about it but her and and her anonymous source.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 4:37:05pm |
re: #418 JasonA
Isn’t he the one that knows the AGW denier talking points like the back of his hand?
That’s memorization. I doubt he understands even the fake “science” behind those.
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Gus Thu, May 13, 2010 4:37:22pm |
re: #423 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I like your cheerleaders.
Hate the sin team love the sinner cheerleaders.
//
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wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 4:37:26pm |
re: #419 Walter L. Newton
Could there be a book in the making?
Looks like it’s been done: Historic Tales of Cashiers. Oh, wait. that’s the town of Cashiers, NC.
It’s all yours!
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ShaunP Thu, May 13, 2010 4:38:27pm |
re: #427 Cato the Elder
One way you can tell that people like McKinney are nutsopocalyptic is that they always use round numbers.
5,000 bodies. No more, no less. Prisoners, they were, and nobody knows about it but her and and her anonymous source.
LOL. When real massacre’s happen, they aren’t divisible by 5…
///
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 4:38:36pm |
re: #427 Cato the Elder
One way you can tell that people like McKinney are nutsopocalyptic is that they always use round numbers.
5,000 bodies. No more, no less. Prisoners, they were, and nobody knows about it but her and and her anonymous source.
well…that and the blue paint…
| 433 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 13, 2010 4:38:41pm |
re: #427 Cato the Elder
One way you can tell that people like McKinney are nutsopocalyptic is that they always use round numbers.
5,000 bodies. No more, no less. Prisoners, they were, and nobody knows about it but her and and her anonymous source.
So you are saying that a plausible conspiracy theory would use prime numbers ….
hmmmm….
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Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 4:39:02pm |
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:39:16pm |
re: #412 albusteve
worse…a fair weather wagon jumper
The thing with lefties like me is nothing other than black and white is black and white; most things are shades of gray and many of those are ordered, as in the case of hockey teams, from most favourite to least favourite. As each favoured team falls, the next one in line takes its place.
| 436 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:39:22pm |
Sarah Palin: American Law Should Be ‘Based On The God Of The Bible And The Ten Commandments’
According to Palin, the recent backlash against the National Day of Prayer is proof that some people are trying to enact a “fundamental transformation of America” and to “revisit and rewrite history” in order to shift the Christian nation away from its spiritual roots.
Palins’s advice: “Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant — they’re quite clear — that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the ten commandments.
“What in hell scares people about talking about America’s foundation of faith?” Palin continued. “It is that world view that involves some people being afraid of being able to discuss our foundation, being able to discuss God in the public square, that’s the only thing I can attribute it to.”
Palin, you are a brainless bint
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Soap_Man Thu, May 13, 2010 4:39:28pm |
OT: An ESPN reporter asked MLB players to analyze Elena Kagan’s softball batting stance. Most joked about it, (she got mixed reviews) but National’s closer Matt Capp got really into. Like he was about to face her that night.
“It looks like she’s choking up there and she’s locked down, so it looks like she’s going to give you an aggressive fight — which is probably a good thing in the position she’s going to be in,” Capps said. “But with the bat head going up like that, I’m probably going to try and throw the ball on the inner part of the plate and see if I can’t jam her.
“I’m going to go hard in and soft away, and try to mix up the timing a little bit. It looks like with her stance, she’s going to have a hard time getting to the ball on the inner half of the plate. Anything breaking away from her, with me being a righty, she’ll be a little bit in front of.
“Just the position of her hands and the position of the barrel of the bat, that’s a lot of travel for that bat head to come all the way around through the middle. Where if she lowered it, she could just drop it down on the outside part of the plate hard. That’s a lot of bat-head travel to get to the inner part of the plate. I don’t know, I’d have to see her swing. Maybe her hands are quick enough at this stage of her life where she could still get to it.”
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 4:39:32pm |
re: #427 Cato the Elder
One way you can tell that people like McKinney are nutsopocalyptic is that they always use round numbers.
5,000 bodies. No more, no less. Prisoners, they were, and nobody knows about it but her and and her anonymous source.
How about binary? There were 1001110001000 people murdered and buried by the government.
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albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:40:32pm |
re: #435 b_sharp
The thing with lefties like me is nothing other than black and white is black and white; most things are shades of gray and many of those are ordered, as in the case of hockey teams, from most favourite to least favourite. As each favoured team falls, the next one in line takes its place.
whatever…I thought I’d post you an example of real ‘baiting’….you’re cool with me
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Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 4:40:34pm |
re: #436 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Even if she were right, is there something wrong about the concept of progress? We’ve learned a hell of a lot since then.
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b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:40:37pm |
re: #416 HoosierHoops
That is so true!
I have been a lifelong Golden State fan and Giants Fan…I continue to be punished on a yearly basis
My favourite hockey team is the Leafs. Talk about head banging.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:41:00pm |
re: #427 Cato the Elder
One way you can tell that people like McKinney are nutsopocalyptic is that they always use round numbers.
5,000 bodies. No more, no less. Prisoners, they were, and nobody knows about it but her and and her anonymous source.
I’m going to have to hold off on a final decision on whether she is crazy or not. We have yet seen any evidence that there isn’t 5000 bodies… I think it is the governments responsibility to prove that she is wrong, otherwise, as it stands right now, she could be telling the truth… we just don’t really know, do we?
| 443 |
Racer X Thu, May 13, 2010 4:41:13pm |
| 444 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:41:52pm |
re: #438 cliffster
How about binary? There were 1001110001000 people murdered and buried by the government.
But only 1388 in Hexadecimal
| 445 |
HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 4:41:56pm |
re: #420 albusteve
I’m a displaced Cowboy fan…everybody has always hated me…sniff
When Jordan came home from Iraq…The first person in line was ex-Cowboy Steve Wright meeting the troops and passing out cards..He offers free counseling services to Vet’s and their families upon coming home…I am very impressed with that man and real Cowboy character…H/T Steve for being a patroit..
//When I met Steve with Jordan that night he said..I know you don’t I? I’m Blushing..Shakes my hand..Then he Walks away and I say to Jordan, He knows me!
Pops..He says that to every person he meets..It’s his thing
Well Crap!
/// Stella! I could have been somebody!
| 446 |
Girth Thu, May 13, 2010 4:42:04pm |
I find it exceedingly disrespectful of the men and women serving our country to suggest that they would let a fellow soldier die because they are gay, which is the logical conclusion of not being willing to fight for them.
I’m sorry you’re a bigot Sen. Inhofe, I really am, but don’t try to project your prejudices on anyone else. It’s nauseating.
| 447 |
jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:42:08pm |
re: #440 JasonA
Even if she were right, is there something wrong about the concept of progress? We’ve learned a hell of a lot since then.
If she supported the concept of progress wouldn’t that make her (gasp) a progressive?
| 448 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 4:42:25pm |
re: #436 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Sarah Palin: American Law Should Be ‘Based On The God Of The Bible And The Ten Commandments’
Palin, you are a brainless bint
I saw her on the O’Reilly factor when she said that. It’s really a Constitution Interpretation FAIL of massive proportions. Yet she still gets cheered by some for it. [facepalm]
| 449 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 4:42:39pm |
re: #440 JasonA
Even if she were right, is there something wrong about the concept of progress? We’ve learned a hell of a lot since then.
Progress is not something the current GOP is apparently interested in.
| 450 |
Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 4:42:44pm |
re: #447 jamesfirecat
If she supported the concept of progress wouldn’t that make her (gasp) a progressive?
Sucks being a slave to labels, doesn’t it?
| 451 |
albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:42:47pm |
re: #442 Walter L. Newton
I’m going to have to hold off on a final decision on whether she is crazy or not. We have yet seen any evidence that there isn’t 5000 bodies… I think it is the governments responsibility to prove that she is wrong, otherwise, as it stands right now, she could be telling the truth… we just don’t really know, do we?
we do know that 5000 firearms were confiscated by the NOLA PD gestapo….I smell a Nancy here
| 452 |
b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:43:04pm |
re: #439 albusteve
whatever…I thought I’d post you an example of real ‘baiting’…you’re cool with me
I’m in no mood to fight anyway.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 4:43:54pm |
re: #445 HoosierHoops
Hoops, could you add my mother to the Prayer List? She’s in the hospital right now. They don’t know yet what’s wrong, but they’re running tests.
| 455 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:43:54pm |
re: #443 Racer X
The best thing you’ll hear all day:
The Fab Faux - Abbey Road Side 2
[Video]
If you give two shits about the Beatles or that music… I can’t stand the Beatles or the music.
| 456 |
Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 4:44:10pm |
re: #415 engineer dog
missed it
i am tempted to write her to complete the circle of confirmation since i find it hard to believe. sounds like nutzig stuff
You want to invite Cynthia McKinney into your life?
Have fun!
| 457 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 4:44:23pm |
re: #440 JasonA
Even if she were right, is there something wrong about the concept of progress? We’ve learned a hell of a lot since then.
she’s not right. we were debating some yahoo the other night and brought lots of fun quotes from Madison et al regarding separation of church and state.
those of faith have as much to fear from the govt as the govt has to fear from them.
everyone’s interest is served by the “wall”. everyone. thank God for founders who understood that…
| 458 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 13, 2010 4:44:36pm |
re: #436 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Palin is the result of a left wing conspiracy.
False Flag.
No one can be that stupid.
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jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:44:36pm |
re: #451 albusteve
we do know that 5000 firearms were confiscated by the NOLA PD gestapo…I smell a Nancy here
Have a downding for comparing our police officers in uniform to Nazi secret police…
| 461 |
b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:44:50pm |
re: #442 Walter L. Newton
I’m going to have to hold off on a final decision on whether she is crazy or not. We have yet seen any evidence that there isn’t 5000 bodies… I think it is the governments responsibility to prove that she is wrong, otherwise, as it stands right now, she could be telling the truth… we just don’t really know, do we?
Good way to get the swamp dug up.
| 462 |
albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:44:53pm |
re: #445 HoosierHoops
When Jordan came home from Iraq…The first person in line was ex-Cowboy Steve Wright meeting the troops and passing out cards..He offers free counseling services to Vet’s and their families upon coming home…I am very impressed with that man and real Cowboy character…H/T Steve for being a patroit..
//When I met Steve with Jordan that night he said..I know you don’t I? I’m Blushing..Shakes my hand..Then he Walks away and I say to Jordan, He knows me!
Pops..He says that to every person he meets..It’s his thing
Well Crap!
/// Stella! I could have been somebody!
nice story…seeing those boys and girls in the airports I fly through gives me the fuzzies…I always get close to weeping for happiness and pride
| 463 |
wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 4:45:59pm |
| 464 |
HoosierHoops Thu, May 13, 2010 4:46:31pm |
re: #454 Dark_Falcon
Hoops, could you add my mother to the Prayer List? She’s in the hospital right now. They don’t know yet what’s wrong, but they’re running tests.
I’m so sorry..I added her to the list and will say a little prayer for her tonight..
Be strong and may God grant your mother grace and healing…
| 465 |
albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:46:42pm |
re: #459 jamesfirecat
Have a downding for comparing our police officers in uniform to Nazi secret police…
well ouch!
(not really)
didn’t know you are from NOLA
| 466 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 13, 2010 4:46:43pm |
re: #438 cliffster
Had a birthday the other day and my son went out to buy the numbered candles. He came back with 1s and 0s and did it in binary. Won’t have to buy new candles for some time.
| 467 |
Gus Thu, May 13, 2010 4:46:45pm |
re: #456 Cato the Elder
You want to invite Cynthia McKinney into your life?
Have fun!
Critical Resistance Stupidity 10 Conference.
| 468 |
Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 4:46:50pm |
re: #442 Walter L. Newton
I’m going to have to hold off on a final decision on whether she is crazy or not. We have yet seen any evidence that there isn’t 5000 bodies… I think it is the governments responsibility to prove that she is wrong, otherwise, as it stands right now, she could be telling the truth… we just don’t really know, do we?
They didn’t exist if you can’t show me the birth certificates.
| 469 |
cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 4:47:13pm |
re: #454 Dark_Falcon
Hoops, could you add my mother to the Prayer List? She’s in the hospital right now. They don’t know yet what’s wrong, but they’re running tests.
Hope she’s ok, bro
| 470 |
Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 4:47:13pm |
re: #454 Dark_Falcon
My thoughts and prayers for your mom, you and your family, DF.
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Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 4:47:24pm |
re: #457 Aceofwhat?
I know she’s epically wrong. The only point I was trying to make was that even if it was the Founders’ intent it doesn’t necessarily make it right for us today. It was also the Founders’ intent to count 3/5 of Southern blacks…
| 472 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 13, 2010 4:47:31pm |
re: #454 Dark_Falcon
Hoops, could you add my mother to the Prayer List? She’s in the hospital right now. They don’t know yet what’s wrong, but they’re running tests.
Sorry to hear that. Hope she recovers soon.
| 473 |
Dancing along the light of day Thu, May 13, 2010 4:47:38pm |
re: #454 Dark_Falcon
{{DF}}
Best wishes!
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ShaunP Thu, May 13, 2010 4:47:49pm |
re: #448 Dark_Falcon
I saw her on the O’Reilly factor when she said that. It’s really a Constitution Interpretation FAIL of massive proportions. Yet she still gets cheered by some for it. [facepalm]
Someone posted this article today and your post reminded me of it. Is Palin a constitution troll?
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
…In the late 1980s, Internet users adopted the word “troll” to denote someone who intentionally disrupts online communities. Early trolling was relatively innocuous, taking place inside of small, single-topic Usenet groups. The trolls employed what the M.I.T. professor Judith Donath calls a “pseudo-naïve” tactic, asking stupid questions and seeing who would rise to the bait. The game was to find out who would see through this stereotypical newbie behavior, and who would fall for it. As one guide to trolldom puts it, “If you don’t fall for the joke, you get to be in on it.”…
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cliffster Thu, May 13, 2010 4:47:52pm |
re: #466 karmic_inquisitor
Had a birthday the other day and my son went out to buy the numbered candles. He came back with 1s and 0s and did it in binary. Won’t have to buy new candles for some time.
your son is bad ass.
| 476 |
albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:47:53pm |
re: #454 Dark_Falcon
Hoops, could you add my mother to the Prayer List? She’s in the hospital right now. They don’t know yet what’s wrong, but they’re running tests.
I think she will be fine…hang in there
| 477 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 13, 2010 4:48:37pm |
re: #461 b_sharp
Good way to get the swamp dug up.
Wait a minute… what swamp? Are you saying that she implied that the bodies were dumped in a swamp?
That’s nuts.
| 478 |
cenotaphium Thu, May 13, 2010 4:48:43pm |
re: #446 Girth
I find it exceedingly disrespectful of the men and women serving our country to suggest that they would let a fellow soldier die because they are gay, which is the logical conclusion of not being willing to fight for them.
That was the first thing I thought when I read it too. Funny how these guys are there to swing “respecting the military forces” around like a shield for their warped view of reality, all the while showing utter contempt to the people serving. No gays, because that would mean soldiers let each other die! No women on subs, because then everyone would take turns gangraping them and besides, you’d have to put in separate showers or something!
I just don’t get how they get away with being that two-faced.
| 479 |
b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:49:00pm |
re: #454 Dark_Falcon
Hoops, could you add my mother to the Prayer List? She’s in the hospital right now. They don’t know yet what’s wrong, but they’re running tests.
You and your mother are in my thoughts.
| 480 |
albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:49:04pm |
re: #455 Walter L. Newton
If you give two shits about the Beatles or that music… I can’t stand the Beatles or the music.
Walter, you blasphemous turd….apologize to us Beatles fans!
| 482 |
Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 4:49:41pm |
re: #480 albusteve
Walter, you blasphemous turd…apologize to us Beatles fans!
Eh… I’m with Walter on this one.
| 483 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 4:50:10pm |
re: #471 JasonA
I know she’s epically wrong. The only point I was trying to make was that even if it was the Founders’ intent it doesn’t necessarily make it right for us today. It was also the Founders’ intent to count 3/5 of Southern blacks…
ah, sorry for misreading it…
| 484 |
engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 4:50:47pm |
re: #456 Cato the Elder
You want to invite Cynthia McKinney into your life?
Have fun!
i suggest we stage a mckinney/beck death match
i will be sure to be somewhere else far away
| 485 |
albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:50:50pm |
| 486 |
b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 4:51:17pm |
re: #477 Walter L. Newton
Wait a minute… what swamp? Are you saying that she implied that the bodies were dumped in a swamp?
That’s nuts.
They had bullet holes in their heads and were being used to raise the water level.
| 487 |
brookly red Thu, May 13, 2010 4:51:23pm |
re: #477 Walter L. Newton
Wait a minute… what swamp? Are you saying that she implied that the bodies were dumped in a swamp?
That’s nuts.
yeah dey get found like that… gotta take em waaay out to sea.
| 488 |
Soap_Man Thu, May 13, 2010 4:51:29pm |
re: #454 Dark_Falcon
Hoops, could you add my mother to the Prayer List? She’s in the hospital right now. They don’t know yet what’s wrong, but they’re running tests.
Here’s hoping she comes out of there okay. Stay positive my friend.
| 490 |
allegro Thu, May 13, 2010 4:51:44pm |
| 492 |
Liberal Classic Thu, May 13, 2010 4:52:35pm |
re: #474 ShaunP
Early trolling was relatively innocuous, taking place inside of small, single-topic Usenet groups.
A whitewash of Usenet newsgroups!
TINC
| 493 |
albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 4:52:49pm |
re: #490 allegro
Then there was George Martin…
I’ve been all over this for years….good times those threads….
and then there is the Fifth Beatle
| 494 |
Killgore Trout Thu, May 13, 2010 4:52:51pm |
re: #454 Dark_Falcon
Hoops, could you add my mother to the Prayer List? She’s in the hospital right now. They don’t know yet what’s wrong, but they’re running tests.
Very sorry to hear that. Keep us posted.
| 495 |
Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 4:53:15pm |
re: #483 Aceofwhat?
ah, sorry for misreading it…
No worries. It sometimes bothers me when people like Sarah talk about the Constitution like it’s perfectly perfect and incapable of being imperfect… even after we’ve changed it 27 damn times.
| 496 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 4:53:20pm |
re: #464 HoosierHoops
I’m so sorry..I added her to the list and will say a little prayer for her tonight..
Be strong and may God grant your mother grace and healing…
Thanks, Hoops. And thanks to all you folks, too.
| 497 |
Gus Thu, May 13, 2010 4:53:23pm |
re: #484 engineer dog
i suggest we stage a mckinney/beck death match
i will be sure to be somewhere else far away
They can hold it in Guam.
/
| 498 |
mlgblg Thu, May 13, 2010 4:54:37pm |
re: #454 Dark_Falcon
Hoops, could you add my mother to the Prayer List? She’s in the hospital right now. They don’t know yet what’s wrong, but they’re running tests.
prayers. hope it’s nothing serious.
| 499 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 4:55:05pm |
re: #494 Killgore Trout
Very sorry to hear that. Keep us posted.
I will, as much as I can. My mother is a private person and she does not want me to talk too much about her health to people outside the family. So I likely will not be able to be specific.
| 500 |
Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 4:55:16pm |
| 501 |
Gus Thu, May 13, 2010 4:56:39pm |
| 502 |
Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 4:57:47pm |
re: #455 Walter L. Newton
If you give two shits about the Beatles or that music… I can’t stand the Beatles or the music.
re: #482 JasonA
Eh… I’m with Walter on this one.
re: #485 albusteve
actually they were a bunch of hacks…move along
Careful. If this talk goes on for long, you’ll be sorry. I will post an Oasis video if I have to.
| 503 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:00:29pm |
re: #169 allegro
There is a very active and lovely group of Mensans in OKC and surrounds. All Okies are’t dumb.
My husband is an Okie. He’s very strange, but he’s far from dumb.
| 504 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:00:59pm |
re: #170 Nimed
Sure. I have my doubts about the faith of many of our 20th century Presidents. The strongest suspicions go to Clinton and Obama. Especially Obama.
Huh? Why those two?
| 505 |
Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 5:01:20pm |
re: #502 Nimed
Eh, I can’t hate them, even though I probably should. I was in my late teens when they came out and I do have some fond memories from then.
| 506 |
Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 5:02:54pm |
re: #504 SanFranciscoZionist
Huh? Why those two?
Speaking for myself, Obama’s been the first President to even mention non-believers, and he’s done at least a couple of times according to my recollection. Also, I believe his attendance record at mass has been rather spotty?
As for Clinton, I dunno about him.
| 507 |
b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 5:05:02pm |
re: #506 JasonA
Speaking for myself, Obama’s been the first President to even mention non-believers, and he’s done at least a couple of times according to my recollection. Also, I believe his attendance record at mass has been rather spotty?
As for Clinton, I dunno about him.
Is there some need for a POTUS to be religious?
| 508 |
Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 5:05:52pm |
| 509 |
Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 5:06:29pm |
re: #504 SanFranciscoZionist
Huh? Why those two?
Too long to explain in this old thread, but essentially due to biographical reasons.
| 510 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:07:09pm |
re: #202 Cato the Elder
Jeez. A left-wing flounce.
Turnabout is fair play, although I have to say that the left-wing flounce seems to lack the passionate intensity of the right-wing version. We can apparently get banned with great fanfare, though. Look at Sigma_x.
| 511 |
Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 5:08:08pm |
re: #505 JasonA
Eh, I can’t hate them, even though I probably should. I was in my late teens when they came out and I do have some fond memories from then.
Well, in that case you should like the Beatles just a little bit…
| 512 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:08:16pm |
re: #204 tradewind
You’re right. He said ’ breaking into houses and terrorizing ‘.
The rape thing was years before, when he was chatting with the House Committee about what a good talk he had with the North Vietnamese last time he was in Paris. That whole winter soldier dustup.
…they raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
[Link: facultystaff.richmond.edu…]
Yes, I know there were atrocities in Vietnam. There are in every war. I still think he’s a dirtbag for the way he used them.
He told the truth.
| 513 |
Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 5:09:44pm |
re: #511 Nimed
I might if it weren’t for close friends who continue to insist that they’re the most awesome band to ever band together. The Beatles hype is way past its expiration date.
| 515 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:12:07pm |
re: #319 engineer dog
i was about to say that
as a progressive, i could be embarrassed by the ad calling general petraeus ‘general betray-us’, and think that perhaps naomi wolf is a bit alarmist, but i think the right is winning in the sheer mass of counterfactual and illogical
I think Naomi Wolf is out of her freaking mind, but she doesn’t have the high profile of the Beck types.
| 516 |
Ojoe Thu, May 13, 2010 5:12:31pm |
re: #506 JasonA
Someone asked Obama during his campaign, if he prayed much. He answered “I guess so.”
Hardly convincing to my mind.
you could look it up via google, you’d find it.
| 517 |
albusteve Thu, May 13, 2010 5:12:41pm |
re: #513 JasonA
I might if it weren’t for close friends who continue to insist that they’re the most awesome band to ever band together. The Beatles hype is way past its expiration date.
that would be the Stones
| 518 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:12:45pm |
re: #323 Taqyia2Me
He certainly tried and convicted the Haditha Marines and the Navy Seals and the existence of Gitmo…and…he was, of course, 100% wrong, as the acquittals and exonerations have proven…
I’m not sure entirely how ideological that was, though. I think he just jumps bandwagons.
| 520 |
b_sharp Thu, May 13, 2010 5:14:13pm |
re: #516 Ojoe
Someone asked Obama during his campaign, if he prayed much. He answered “I guess so.”
Hardly convincing to my mind.
you could look it up via google, you’d find it.
And?
| 521 |
Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 5:14:35pm |
re: #516 Ojoe
Someone asked Obama during his campaign, if he prayed much. He answered “I guess so.”
Hardly convincing to my mind.
you could look it up via google, you’d find it.
That’s the polite response. He should have told him to go golf with himself.
| 522 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:15:09pm |
re: #349 Taqyia2Me
To be fair, if I remember correctly, the common knowledge was that was all our troops did that in Vietnam…
…the it was given rebirth in the false Haditha story and the flase Navy Seals Fallujah story…
It’s a sufficiently horrifying incident that I do not care to play it down with concern about whether people were overly shocked by it, and should have realized that ‘atrocities happen in every war’.
| 524 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:15:34pm |
re: #351 Floral Giraffe
No fair, Cynthia is just bugnut crazy!
I think bugnut crazy people can also be bigots.
| 525 |
Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 5:15:38pm |
| 526 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:15:55pm |
re: #352 Walter L. Newton
First off, two of those people you mentioned are black, they can’t be bigots or racists… secondly one is a woman, and classify her as a bigot is in itself bigoted… that leaves us with Nader. What has Nader been bigoted about?
Is this the return of Sensitive Walter?
| 530 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:17:18pm |
re: #369 HoosierHoops
Isn’t she the one that claimed there are 5000 bodies out in the swamp that the GOP killed during Katrina?
Yes. Specifically, black men taken out of prisons and executed. There’s a piece of paper with all their names on it in the Pentagon. Why it’s in the Pentagon is totally unclear, but so are many things McKinney says.
| 531 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:18:59pm |
| 532 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:19:56pm |
| 533 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:20:21pm |
re: #397 Aceofwhat?
seriously? you didn’t hear it when she said that?
I missed it, until I saw it posted here, much later.
| 534 |
Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 5:20:49pm |
re: #530 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes. Specifically, black men taken out of prisons and executed. There’s a piece of paper with all their names on it in the Pentagon. Why it’s in the Pentagon is totally unclear, but so are many things McKinney says.
Let’s play “Where Is She Now?”.
| 535 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:21:35pm |
re: #415 engineer dog
missed it
i am tempted to write her to complete the circle of confirmation since i find it hard to believe. sounds like nutzig stuff
There is video out there on the net, I’ve seen it. Do a couple of searches.
| 536 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:22:08pm |
re: #419 Walter L. Newton
I’ve really taken on the persona of being sort of a Standup Grocery Store Cashier/Comic… it’s natural for me anyway, it makes each shift feel like a performance at the theatre, which I’ve done a lot of, and it’s really a natural for “engaging” the customer, since that is very important to our job.
And it’s sort of fun to come up with some new material ever few weeks to rotate into the check out routine.
Could there be a book in the making?
I should think so. The memoir genre still seems to be going strong.
| 537 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:22:43pm |
re: #431 ShaunP
LOL. When real massacre’s happen, they aren’t divisible by 5…
///
Elephants do not come in round numbers.
| 538 |
engineer cat Thu, May 13, 2010 5:22:56pm |
re: #533 SanFranciscoZionist
I missed it, until I saw it posted here, much later.
so much mishegas to keep up with, so little time
| 539 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:24:09pm |
re: #446 Girth
I find it exceedingly disrespectful of the men and women serving our country to suggest that they would let a fellow soldier die because they are gay, which is the logical conclusion of not being willing to fight for them.
I’m sorry you’re a bigot Sen. Inhofe, I really am, but don’t try to project your prejudices on anyone else. It’s nauseating.
This game has been played for a very long time. We can’t integrate, because American soldiers are bigots. We can’t have women serve in this or that, because American soldiers are either gallant gentlemen, or mindless rapists, or both.
Now this.
Always spewed by people who would claim they are extremely pro-troop.
| 540 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:25:28pm |
re: #484 engineer dog
i suggest we stage a mckinney/beck death match
i will be sure to be somewhere else far away
McKinney will kick his ass. She may be crazy, but she’s fierce.
| 541 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:26:27pm |
re: #509 Nimed
Too long to explain in this old thread, but essentially due to biographical reasons.
OK. I don’t particularly care, but Clinton in particular seems an odd pick.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 5:28:08pm |
re: #534 Decatur Deb
Let’s play “Where Is She Now?”.
McKinney? Last she was on my radar, she was trying to run the blockade of Gaza in a fishing boat, with school supplies. That was a while ago, though.
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Decatur Deb Thu, May 13, 2010 5:29:11pm |
re: #542 SanFranciscoZionist
McKinney? Last she was on my radar, she was trying to run the blockade of Gaza in a fishing boat, with school supplies. That was a while ago, though.
Nowhere, then.
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Nimed Thu, May 13, 2010 5:37:25pm |
This is the first month since the beginning of the war in Iraq in which we are spending more money on Afghanistan.
[Link: yglesias.thinkprogress.org…]
Irrespective of your feelings about Iraq today, it’s worth taking a minute to observe that it was absurd to spend more money in Iraq than Afghanistan in 2004. And it was absurd to spend more money in Iraq than Afghanistan in 2005. And it was absurd to spend more money in Iraq than Afghanistan in 2006. And it was absurd to spend more money in Iraq than Afghanistan in 2007. And it was absurd to spend more money in Iraq than Afghanistan in 2008. And it was absurd to spend more money in Iraq than Afghanistan in 2009.
And not just absurd, it’s been positively tragic. Throughout 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007 the population of Afghanistan was, unlike the population of Iraq, strongly supportive of a US military presence. If you want to use the US military for humanitarian ends, that’s how you want to use it—in places where it’s wanted.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 5:40:17pm |
re: #534 Decatur Deb
Let’s play “Where Is She Now?”.
I’d rather play “Let’s forget we even heard of her.”
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Kruk Thu, May 13, 2010 5:41:10pm |
re: #522 SanFranciscoZionist
It’s a sufficiently horrifying incident that I do not care to play it down with concern about whether people were overly shocked by it, and should have realized that ‘atrocities happen in every war’.
Agreed. If we stop being shocked by these atrocities, and simply accept that “they’ll happen in every war”, we start normalising them. That’s the surest way to ensure we *will* see them in future wars.
| 547 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 5:41:51pm |
re: #544 Nimed
This is the first month since the beginning of the war in Iraq in which we are spending more money on Afghanistan.
[Link: yglesias.thinkprogress.org…]
Irrespective of your feelings about Iraq today, it’s worth taking a minute to observe that it was absurd to spend more money in Iraq than Afghanistan in 2004. And it was absurd to spend more money in Iraq than Afghanistan in 2005. And it was absurd to spend more money in Iraq than Afghanistan in 2006. And it was absurd to spend more money in Iraq than Afghanistan in 2007. And it was absurd to spend more money in Iraq than Afghanistan in 2008. And it was absurd to spend more money in Iraq than Afghanistan in 2009.
And not just absurd, it’s been positively tragic. Throughout 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007 the population of Afghanistan was, unlike the population of Iraq, strongly supportive of a US military presence. If you want to use the US military for humanitarian ends, that’s how you want to use it—in places where it’s wanted.
I disagree. Iraq is a more important country, and has a larger population. Once the decision to remove Saddam Hussein was taken, it was correct to make Iraq our point of primary effort.
| 548 |
Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, May 13, 2010 5:45:42pm |
re: #547 Dark_Falcon
But we didn’t. We had too few troops. And it had the effect of beggaring the campaign in Afghanistan.
| 549 |
Kruk Thu, May 13, 2010 5:47:14pm |
re: #506 JasonA
Speaking for myself, Obama’s been the first President to even mention non-believers, and he’s done at least a couple of times according to my recollection. Also, I believe his attendance record at mass has been rather spotty?
Give the man a break. Given the time commitments of being a member of the Muslim ummah, a radical Black church and the godless Communist party all at the same time, it’s a wonder he gets anything done.
| 550 |
Kruk Thu, May 13, 2010 5:51:06pm |
re: #510 SanFranciscoZionist
Turnabout is fair play, although I have to say that the left-wing flounce seems to lack the passionate intensity of the right-wing version. We can apparently get banned with great fanfare, though. Look at Sigma_x.
Heh. Why does Yeats seem particularly appropriate for the current political situation?
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
| 551 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 5:51:48pm |
re: #548 Obdicut
But we didn’t. We had too few troops. And it had the effect of beggaring the campaign in Afghanistan.
Thankfully, we fixed that error before it was too late. We lost too many people while saying “stay the course”, and the Bush Administration must be faulted for that. The surge should have been announced and Rumsfeld fired 5-6 months earlier. It was a grave mistake to wait.
| 552 |
Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, May 13, 2010 6:03:44pm |
re: #551 Dark_Falcon
We needed more than the surge, from the beginning. We should not have gone to war on Iraq, since it distracted us from the War on Terror, but, if we were going to do so, we should have done it properly— especially when we were going in almost without allies.
We allowed things to pass that will cause harm for a long, long time— like the sectarian violence that nearly ethnically cleansed some neighborhoods.
It was a plan from people fooling themselves about our reception, and I believe part of why that is true is that those same people were fooling themselves as to the wisdom of that war.
| 553 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 13, 2010 6:09:56pm |
re: #552 Obdicut
We needed more than the surge, from the beginning. We should not have gone to war on Iraq, since it distracted us from the War on Terror, but, if we were going to do so, we should have done it properly— especially when we were going in almost without allies.
We allowed things to pass that will cause harm for a long, long time— like the sectarian violence that nearly ethnically cleansed some neighborhoods.
It was a plan from people fooling themselves about our reception, and I believe part of why that is true is that those same people were fooling themselves as to the wisdom of that war.
Not entirely sure how to respond to that. I’m not being critical (you make a good point), but I need to think about that.
| 554 |
prairiefire Thu, May 13, 2010 6:12:33pm |
re: #540 SanFranciscoZionist
McKinney will kick his ass. She may be crazy, but she’s fierce.
She would totally kick his doughy ass. Watch out for the fingernails. He’d really be crying then.
| 555 |
watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, May 13, 2010 6:39:45pm |
re: #197 elektramourns
Jesus…A Moonbat flounce? Really? You do realize that the left and left leaning moderates pretty much control the board now don’t you?
Bwahahaha, and here I thought the other moderate righties like me were pussies for flouncing when outnumbered 25 to 1.
“OMG two people out out twenty have forcefully disagreed with me, I simply cannot go on here!”
Good luck finding somewhere where everyone always agrees with you 100% of the time, you won’t learn much there though will you? ;)
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Dr. Shalit Thu, May 13, 2010 6:48:52pm |
As Much as I might respect Sen. Inhofe on other matters, On This one - he is at least partially - DEAD WRONG!
If “My Buddy” is Gay, Gray, Green or anything else, he is my buddy - I WILL Cover His Back, as I Expect he will mine. That is the Soldier’s Way.
As to the “politics” of it, “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” - is a good compromise - for straight as well as gay personnel. Like the “Trimester System” under Roe v. Wade, the problem is implementation. Need I say more? -S-
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RogueOne Thu, May 13, 2010 7:29:14pm |
re: #250 Decatur Deb
Don’t punch the maitre’d.
He’ll be safe as long as he keeps his pant on around my S-I-L/
| 558 |
First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, May 13, 2010 7:53:04pm |
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will.
My rifle and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit.
My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my rifle clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will.
Before God, I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it, until victory is America’s and there is no enemy, but peace!
(unless you have teh gay)
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, May 13, 2010 9:14:19pm |
re: #557 RogueOne
Hey, the old boss left me some info, you might appreciate…
Hi Gina moved in with her boyfriend for her Senior year, then about 18 mos later decided to live with her Mom. She has been is school all this year, and I think is in a better place. Our relationship is SLOWLY repairing itself.
While I was going through this with her, and was very conflicted with
Fred, I sought the advice of a Family Counselor. I learned that I should not or cannot take ownership of the decisions that a Stepchild makes. It is the responsibility of the Parent. It was very cathartic to hear that, and it gave me alot of relief. I could still care and worry about her, but ultimately, it is the parent that should be driving the bus.
It was much harder when Doe was little and there were occasional drugs being found, I really had no tolerance for that with a small child.
Keep in touch and let me know if your friend needs someone to talk to!!
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Ojoe Thu, May 13, 2010 9:18:27pm |
re: #372 engineer dog
but like i say, nobody gives them national airtime to propogate views like this, and i hear the equivalent and worse over the air everyday from beck, savage, and rush et al.
There are equivalent leftist views broadcast on Pacifica Radio, but with nowhere near the listenership of the larger rightist venues, IMHO.
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Cobdenite Fri, May 14, 2010 12:26:43am |
I guess the question to ask Sen. Inhofe is: are American soldiers worse than Israeli ones? Israeli soldiers seem to have no problem fighting and dying for their gay service members. This whole “unit cohesion” issue is just such a red herring by this point, it’s no longer funny.
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sffilk Fri, May 14, 2010 5:50:54am |
Note to Senator Inhofe and the AFA: I am a gay man who served honorably in the U.S. military. I didn’t do anything I shouldn’t have with another military man while on active duty. If anything, the straight male members of the military were doing more with whomever whenever they could (at least at the training command where I was stationed). And those who did were officers in the Navy and Marine Corps (I was stationed at NAS Meridian, Mississippi, where there were two intermediate jet training squadrons and one advance jet training squadron - from there, they’d get their “Wings of Gold” and go out to the fleet to fly jets).
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