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There is one aspect of our own mentality for which it’s difficult as yet to foresee what type of explanation would even be relevant. I’m referring, of course, to consciousness. The point is that although I have no reason to believe that my consciousness is implemented by anything other than my brain, I remain convinced that there’s something impenetrably mysterious about the relationship between brains and thoughts. And you can understand, therefore, why it’s so hard to imagine, let alone tolerate, the idea that the death of the brain necessarily leads to the end of the personal self – and this, of course, is the “trump card” with which religion has consistently played.

— Jonathan Miller

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1 windsagio  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 9:44:24pm

Start it out right

Youtube Video
2 dragonfire1981  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 9:49:51pm

Just an interesting tidbit. My friend asked me the other day how, in few words, I would sum up the Tea Party.

I replied: "A supposed grassroots movement that's really driven by rich and powerful people with the main goal making them richer and more powerful."

3 laZardo  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 9:50:22pm

Neurons and synapses.

Neurons and synapses everywhere.

/holds out one arm to properly describe its vastness

4 jaunte  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 9:53:18pm

Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Abby someone. Abby who?
Igor: Abby... Normal.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Abby Normal?
Igor: I'm almost sure that was the name.
Image: thisbrain.jpg

5 darthstar  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 9:59:12pm

re: #4 jaunte

That's Fraahn-ken-steen!

6 jaunte  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:00:29pm

re: #5 darthstar

"Didn't you use to have that on the other side?

7 justaminute  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:04:48pm

re: #4 jaunte

Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Abby someone. Abby who?
Igor: Abby... Normal.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Abby Normal?
Igor: I'm almost sure that was the name.
Image: thisbrain.jpg

I loved that scene. It makes me think of the human anatomy class I had in college. Our professor was showing us a human brain in formaldehyde while he was playing off that same scene. He them passed out. Never stand over a beaker of formaldehyde for a length of time, that was our lesson for the day.

8 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:07:15pm

re: #1 windsagio

Start it out right

[Video]

Because of you, I need to rest.

9 jaunte  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:09:41pm

Goodnight all.

"Think, too, about why we sometimes remind ourselves that "life is short." It is an impetus to extend a gesture of affection to a loved one, to bury the hatchet in a pointless dispute, to use time productively rather than squander it. I would argue that nothing gives life more purpose than the realization that every moment of consciousness is a precious and fragile gift."
-- Steven Pinker



The Brain: The Mystery of Consciousness

10 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:10:21pm

There is one aspect of our own mentality for which it’s difficult as yet to foresee what type of explanation would even be relevant. I’m referring, of course, to consciousness. The point is that although I have no reason to believe that my consciousness is implemented by anything other than my brain, I remain convinced that there’s something impenetrably mysterious about the relationship between brains and thoughts. And you can understand, therefore, why it’s so hard to imagine, let alone tolerate, the idea that the death of the brain necessarily leads to the end of the personal self – and this, of course, is the “trump card” with which religion has consistently played.

— Jonathan Miller

Note to Miller: prolifer religious people are not phenomenologists, for a reason. Or should I say, a rationale. The very concept of "reason" is anathema to a lot of them.

11 freetoken  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:13:22pm

re: #9 jaunte

fixed link:

[Link: www.time.com...]

12 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:19:48pm

Goodnight, all.

13 ozbloke  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:21:38pm

Nite Dark, be well.

14 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:27:20pm

PLEASE don't say "trump" in any context.

How is everyone?

15 Digital Display  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:32:21pm

Guess I'll give Jack Nickolson his props...I have always gave him grief over being a big time Lakers fan.. I saw him tonight in one flew over the cuckoo's nest and he was calling the world series on a turned off TV in the mental hospital.. Pure genius acting.. I loved it..I will never cause him grief again..
I could like this guy Laker fan or not

16 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:42:08pm

I posted this the page about fundamentalism and evolution. Want to show it here, as it is interesting:

Speaking of things in Holy Books, I found this on Cracked. Apparently, there is now some idea what happened (scientifically) to Sodom and Gomorrah

Scientists now think that "something" might have been a half-mile wide asteroid. Before it could land, it apparently morphed into a three-mile-wide fire ball before clipping a mountain range and exploding in a rain of fiery debris. But don't beat yourself up for not getting that from the Biblical account.

About 150 years ago, two seemingly unrelated discoveries were made in different parts of the world. First, a Cuneiform tablet known as "The Planisphere," which was a copy of a sky chart from June 29, 3123 BC. Among the stars it seems to depict a moving object, one so large that it could be seen from the ground.

Meanwhile, over in Austria, geologists discovered evidence of what they think was an asteroid impact site. They found signs of explosions and rock-melting, typically caused when an asteroid breaks apart before impact, raining hell down on everything below.
You can see where this is going. But the impact was in Austria, right? What does this have to do with Sodom and Gomorrah?
Well, According to the scientists, the mushroom cloud of the explosion would have reentered the Earth's atmosphere over the Mediterranean Sea, and would have flashed across the Middle East, leaving a trail of debris and superheated air in its wake. To quote the article, the heat "would be enough to ignite any flammable material -- including human hair and clothes. It is probable more people died under the plume than in the Alps due to the impact blast."

Via wheelerroad.org
So imagine you're a guy living in a city in the Middle East, thousands of years ago. Maybe you herd sheep. You know absolutely nothing of asteroids or meteors or comets. Suddenly, in the middle of the night, the air fills with smoke, ash and debris. And then the air gets hot -- not hot like a summer day, but hot like the oven you use to fire clay pots.
Then, all around you, screams. Everything that is flammable spontaneously combusts. You are now on fire.

It would be to your eyes nothing less than the fiery, vengeful judgment of God. Believers will say that's just what it was. Nonbelievers will say the tale of Sodom and Gomorrah is just the handed-down account of whatever refugees were lucky enough to escape the now-forgotten burning city -- and from witnesses who stood, horrified, and watched it happen from afar (and "saw dense smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace").
You can be damned well sure that no ancient Middle Eastern nomad would forget the time they saw an entire city on the horizon spontaneously burst into flame. That's the kind of story that gets told and retold for a few thousand years.

17 windsagio  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:45:22pm

re: #16 ProLifeLiberal

speaking of Cracked, Seanbaby's new piece is up. Always worth pimping.

18 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:57:38pm

re: #17 windsagio

More of a science oriented person here. I'm gonna call this as damn interesting.

Also the pillar of salt might be explainable now. Carbonization or something like it anyone?

19 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 11:06:35pm

re: #18 ProLifeLiberal

More of a science oriented person here. I'm gonna call this as damn interesting.

Also the pillar of salt might be explainable now. Carbonization or something like it anyone?

I think there is a lot that is interesting. Troy used to be a myth --the underground statues of some Chinese Warlord used to be myth. What we know they (most likely) are not are proof of supernatural intervention. More likely, clues to history, but not absolute fact.

20 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 11:14:39pm
A ballot measure to ban circumcision in San Francisco has taken a strange twist with the publication, by the measure’s sponsors, of a comic book in which an anti-circumcision superhero -– blond, buff and handsome -– battles evil Jewish characters who recall the stereotypical images of classic anti-Semitism.

"Foreskin Man" was written and created by Matthew Hess, one of the leaders behind the initiative to ban circumcision, the ritual cutting of foreskin on a baby's penis that, in the Jewish religion, is considered central to the covenant between the Jewish people and God. Opponents consider it painful and barbaric, akin to female circumcision rites in Africa that have attracted international condemnation.

Yeah, there's no anti-semitism here.

Oh wow.

WTF?

Wait, it get better.

I'm sorry but this is straight up nazi hate speech, the blond aryan superhero takes the child from the dark, gun toting, evil Jews.

21 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jun 3, 2011 11:41:29pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, there's no anti-semitism here.

Oh wow.

WTF?

Wait, it get better.

I'm sorry but this is straight up nazi hate speech, the blond aryan superhero takes the child from the dark, gun toting, evil Jews.

I'll wait for Mel Gibson to make the movie.

22 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 12:27:25am

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

Alouette has a page up about that.


"Foreskin Man" was written and created by Matthew Hess, one of the leaders behind the initiative to ban circumcision

Fuck. Really? Hess?

I mean, when I think to myself "Just who the hell would write a comic book like that"?

23 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 12:40:53am

re: #22 Slumbering Behemoth

Alouette has a page up about that.

Fuck. Really? Hess?

I mean, when I think to myself "Just who the hell would write a comic book like that"?

haha indie comics have been around a long time dude Image: heebcartoon.jpg

24 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 12:49:11am

re: #22 Slumbering Behemoth

I mean, you're a metalhead, you don't remember Chick Tracts? Never bene handed one?

Chick Tracts have been trashing on metal and fearmongering metal as satanic and anti-religious, fearmongering against catholics and queers and jews and mormons and muslims and basically anyone who doesn't gobble down the jizzy evangelical Americana Fundamentalist Bornagain Christian horsecock for what, 30 years? I was handed them in jr. high. Those are comic books! All a comic book is, is sequential art plus writing. That's it! Simple

25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 12:49:58am

re: #23 WindUpBird

haha indie comics have been around a long time dude Image: heebcartoon.jpg

Indie comics have been around a long time, you say? I'll have to double check my memory banks, but I'll wager I read a few indies when you were still in diapers.

Wasn't really thinking about indie comics when I wrote that post, though. Was more or less thinking about the :head-thwack: moment when I read that a person with the name of Hess wrote some anti-semitic propaganda.

26 laZardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 12:50:56am

re: #24 WindUpBird

I mean, you're a metalhead, you don't remember Chick Tracts? Never bene handed one?

Chick Tracts have been trashing on metal and fearmongering metal as satanic and anti-religious, fearmongering against catholics and queers and jews and mormons and muslims and basically anyone who doesn't gobble down the jizzy evangelical Americana Fundamentalist Bornagain Christian horsecock for what, 30 years? I was handed them in jr. high. Those are comic books! All a comic book is, is sequential art plus writing. That's it! Simple

I'm no metalhead, but I do know The Sandwich Chef. :D

27 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 12:51:40am

see if this works;

28 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 12:52:47am

re: #27 windsagio

lol alas

http://media.chick.com/tract_6.swf

29 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 12:53:12am

re: #24 WindUpBird

I really don't think you got the gist of my #22 comment.

30 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 12:54:50am

re: #28 windsagio

Picked a racist one, but there are so many!

31 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 12:56:25am

re: #29 Slumbering Behemoth

My point is everyone and anyone writes comic books for ever reason, for any reason, for no reason

32 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 12:58:28am

re: #29 Slumbering Behemoth

like punk music, there's racist punk music, leftist punk music, angry punk music, pacifist punk music, funny happy ironic punk music, it's all the same thing, all the same humanity getting their message out, all the same I-IV-V chord progression, the same pawn-shop guitars, the same broken down drum kit and bad PA systems in concrete basement venues

same thing applies to comics, all you need to distribute a comic is your hands, a pencil, some typing paper, and a photocopier

33 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 12:59:05am

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

Maybe you did!

Have you ever drawn any? :-)

34 laZardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:00:08am

re: #32 WindUpBird

like punk music, there's racist punk music, leftist punk music, angry punk music, pacifist punk music, funny happy ironic punk music, it's all the same thing, all the same humanity getting their message out, all the same I-IV-V chord progression, the same pawn-shop guitars, the same broken down drum kit and bad PA systems in concrete basement venues

same thing applies to comics, all you need to distribute a comic is your hands, a pencil, some typing paper, and a photocopier

Or some Photoshop.

35 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:00:49am

ok, I found my goal anyways

[Link: www.chick.com...]

with the interesteing descriptive text:

"The Holocaust was a Roman Catholic Inquisition against the Jews. No true Christians would kill anyone in the name of Jesus. God commands us to love the Jewish people."

36 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:03:50am

re: #31 WindUpBird

My point is everyone and anyone writes comic books for ever reason, for any reason, for no reason

Ya think?/

I see you clearly did miss the gist of my post.

Rudolf Walter Richard Hess, "Deputy to the Fuhrer".

So when I said "When I think to myself 'Just who the hell would write a comic book like that'?", it was a real :head-thwack: moment to find out the dude's name was Hess.

37 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:04:36am

Worst Photoshop / Graphic design job ever!!!

38 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:05:08am

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

all art is basically a form of propaganda, it's all just pushing ones' personality and views out into the world

Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position so as to benefit oneself.

And if the cause IS yourself, then that's art, right? With no community, art has no hold. if the community is racist, if it's not, if it's evil, if it's altruistic, doesn't matter, it's all the same mechanisms. Just the same people getting paid by exerting their will, waving their personalities around.

It's why I get tired of the blog-war politics thing, it's why i'd rather play guitar and draw than argue about Jim Hoft, or Pam Geller, or whichever dull cow-like pseduo-human who is the flavor of the week. it's a game. It's a game everyone agrees to play, Pam Geller isn't crazy, she's playing a confidence game. Glenn Beck isn't crazy, he's playing a confidence game. it's all just personalities and will and intent. Internet makes it easy. Made it easy for me!

39 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:06:14am

re: #33 WindUpBird

Nope. But once upon a time I did know a dude involved in a rather popular comic book series that was big during the Black & White explosion.

40 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:06:19am

re: #36 Slumbering Behemoth

fair enough :-)

I just assume any number of thousands of people in America would make a comic like that, millions of racists and angry resentful creepy people everywhere looking to lash out via art.

Just takes a guy willing to draw it!

41 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:07:38am

re: #22 Slumbering Behemoth

Alouette has a page up about that.

Fuck. Really? Hess?

I mean, when I think to myself "Just who the hell would write a comic book like that"?

I saw Alouette's page after I posted. You'd think with the baggage that comes with a name like Hess a person might want to tone down the Jew hate to sell their cause, but you'd be wrong.

42 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:07:43am

Still doing my own thing;

[Link: www.chick.com...]

Compelling argument for all you jews to convert to christianity! Just what you wanted!

43 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:09:25am

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

Maybe it was written by Moses Hess? (look it up >>)

44 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:09:42am

re: #43 windsagio

names have a surprisingly large number of associtantoins

45 laZardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:10:05am

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

Worst Photoshop / Graphic design job ever!!!

I've seen some shoops in my day but I know cheese blocks when I see them.

46 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:10:09am

re: #39 Slumbering Behemoth

I read a lot of B&W indies, but they were often too political for me, too angry, I loved Matt Howarth because he was the real deal, a creator interested in worldbuilding and music over politics. Politics of the 90's is so dated, I have this compilation of the Answer Me! zines ([Link: en.wikipedia.org...] it's important, but as art it has this achingly dated dusty 90's quality to it, it's just not relevant, besides the court case they won

But Howarth's stuff is, because it's not political, it's art, it's not raging against the whatever

I always have loved Evan Dorkin and Crumb though ^_^

47 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:11:39am

re: #42 windsagio

my favorite thing about Chick is that he can't draw

I'll go to my grave believing he traced his shit half the time, he has the uncanny valley look of someone who copies but doesn't draw

which is really what you get from a lot of America, people who copy but don't create

48 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:12:36am

re: #40 WindUpBird

We're talking way past each other. I get what you're saying, but it seems you're not getting the gist of my original post.

Again, when I said:

Fuck. Really? Hess?

I mean, when I think to myself "Just who the hell would write a comic book like that"?/blockquote>

It wasn't a statement of disbelief that someone would pen such a comic, we see shit like that all through our lives.

It was an expression of, amazement maybe, that it was penned by a dude named "Hess".

49 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:13:33am

re: #48 Slumbering Behemoth

The name Hess doens't denote a political agenda. There have been many important Hesses!

50 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:14:02am

if you want to see what fundamentalist religion will look like in a hundred years, it'll look like these guys: [Link: worlddominationsummit.com...]

Creepy internet vapidness organized by pied pipers, disguised as empowerment, L Ron Hubbard for the new millenium

Each of these people pays a thousand dollars to come to Portland to do this, and there's hundreds of them, that's the new market, the new manipulation vector

51 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:14:15am

re: #49 windsagio

Jebus dude! Way to miss a point.

52 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:15:31am

re: #48 Slumbering Behemoth

it's a common name, I get the reference, but it's like a german "Smith" or "Jones", I thought

53 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:15:37am

re: #51 Slumbering Behemoth

it took me a while to get why hte name was a big deal, and looked it up >

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

54 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:18:01am

re: #47 WindUpBird

my favorite thing about Chick is that he can't draw

I'll go to my grave believing he traced his shit half the time, he has the uncanny valley look of someone who copies but doesn't draw

which is really what you get from a lot of America, people who copy but don't create

Fred Carter does the vast majority of the artwork.

55 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:18:28am

re: #52 WindUpBird

re: #53 windsagio

Third highest ranking asshole in the entire Third Reich. I did link that in my #36, ya know.

56 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:18:41am

re: #54 goddamnedfrank

Then it's that guy who can't draw! :D

57 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:19:30am

re: #55 Slumbering Behemoth

We know who rudolf hess is! But it's such a common name *_*

58 freetoken  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:21:07am

re: #47 WindUpBird


which is really what you get from a lot of America, people who copy but don't create

Agree. But creating takes work, and so it's hard. Ergo just copy someone else.

59 freetoken  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:21:19am
MP3 Audio
60 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:21:42am

re: #56 WindUpBird

Then it's that guy who can't draw! :D

Just imagine how bad Chick was that he had to hire that guy and couldn't tell how bad he was. I mean, I can't draw for shit either, but I've got eyes.

61 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:22:25am

re: #57 WindUpBird

Right then, I'll reduce my point to a much simpler equation.

Name Hess + Anti-Semitic Propaganda = :Head-Thwack:

62 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:28:42am

re: #61 Slumbering Behemoth

Wait, you think its actually him? Or perhaps his tainted seed slipped down through the decades, and somebody's carrying on in great-grandpa's name?

63 laZardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:31:39am

re: #57 WindUpBird

We know who rudolf hess is! But it's such a common name *_*

Sometimes spelled with an extra E.

64 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:33:24am

re: #62 windsagio

Blah. You're acting like a goober.

It's like coming across comic-style screed full of Christianist baloney, then finding out it was penned by someone named Jacob P. Chick.

Just a coincidental weirdness that can cause you to slap your forehead.

65 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:35:39am

re: #62 windsagio

Wait, you think its actually him? Or perhaps his tainted seed slipped down through the decades, and somebody's carrying on in great-grandpa's name?

It's funny, the guy's name could be McHitler but we'll take what we can get.

66 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:35:53am

I am, unusually medicated tonight, so acting like a goober is wonderfully apt. All legal tho'.

67 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:36:55am

There is a point here even through the haze. A racist cartoon is a racist cartoon, you don't need the extra 'aha'

68 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:38:19am

re: #67 windsagio

Again, no "aha", but more of a "Fuck. Really?'

Hell, I said as much in my first post on the subject.

69 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:40:44am

I'm gonna go back to listening to hawkwind and playing an ambient strategy game, its more fun like this than struggling to type >

70 windsagio  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:42:06am
Youtube Video
71 freetoken  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:50:51am

Bachmann at the Eagle Forum Collegians Summit yesterday. After the small talk, she starts into the heart of her stump speech a little after the 2.00 mark. The beginning and end are nothing other than pure revanchism, about how the US was the "greatest force for good in the world" and how we're losing that position and have to get it back. Along with voodoo economics which she also preaches in the speech-ette, this will be the heart of her campaign - religiously laced fanaticism for supremecy:


Youtube Video
72 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 1:52:20am

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

I saw Alouette's page after I posted. You'd think with the baggage that comes with a name like Hess a person might want to tone down the Jew hate to sell their cause, but you'd be wrong.

Now you're just being silly. I bet you'd try to find the dark (yet somehow unrecognizable) humor in someone named "Andrew Hitler" advocating concentration camps.
///

Peace out, all.

73 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 2:03:05am

re: #71 freetoken

Her contact lens story alone sounds like bullshit.

Early corneal lenses in the 1950s and 1960s were relatively expensive and fragile, resulting in the development of a market for contact lens insurance. Replacement Lens Insurance, Inc. (now known as RLI Corp.) phased out its original flagship product in 1994 after contacts became more affordable and easier to replace.

74 freetoken  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 2:11:43am

re: #73 Slumbering Behemoth

The whole thing just reeks of revisionism. It's a fantasy world she's selling - she's probably bought it herself.

75 freetoken  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 2:12:36am

re: #73 Slumbering Behemoth

I should note that when she did go to college contact lenses were becoming more available.

76 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 2:34:18am

Ni man hao, bitches!

77 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 2:35:15am

re: #74 freetoken

The contact lens thing sounds more like an "aging grandma story" than that of a serious politician. I think I may be fixating on that part due to my own ocular impairment.

re: #75 freetoken

To break down her story...

She worked baby sitting jobs, at fifty cents an hour. Likely not the wage given to college age students in her time, and not at all likely the kind of job given to college age students in her time.

She also claims she did this work, at that wage, for three years, to buy contact lenses.

She also claims that she spent half that wage, and saved the other half for said lenses, over that same time period.

She also claims that she was riding her bike when the wind blew a contact lens out of her eye, and she needed her mommy to help her find it.

Being extremely generous, in the tough financial times she grew up in, I'll pretend she baby-sat three nights a week, the average being four hours per night.

With 52 weeks in a year...

(52 * 3)*(4*0.5)/2 = 156

I highly doubt $156 could buy the contact lenses she describes in the era that she seems to be describing.

/Yes, I know. No need to point out how weird it is for me to fixate on this particular point. I have ocular issues. 'nuff said.

78 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 2:42:17am

re: #77 Slumbering Behemoth

Yes, I know. No need to point out how weird it is for me to fixate on this particular point. I have ocular issues. 'nuff said.

"windos to the soul," & etc. It can be very effective with the ladies, but then again, they can also take it as a sign of a disturbed fellow. Like bowling, clog-dancing, and many other good and noble things, it's a question of time and place.

79 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 2:54:40am
"On one point, I only want David Lewis to talk," Stam said, an Apex Republican. "The talk about redistricting and this thing in the budget is extremely sensative to the other people not in this room who are voting with us. No one but David talk. David can obfuscate more than anybody I know."
80 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 2:55:12am

re: #78 Guanxi88

I got eyes prettier than most for a dude. But they've been hidden behind frames of plastic and glass since I was nine.

I don't mind fuckers making fun. I got over that in grade school. I do mind fuckers who assume I'm a genius about any subject they need help with, just because my eyes suck. But I only mind that a little.

But as I said, I have ocular issues. I can take all the jokes and stereotypes in stride, but I don't like fuckers reaching for my lenses or my eyeballs.

Just ask the dude who threw something at me that hit my frames. I chased him down, tossed furniture out of my way like a beast, and damn near chocked him out.

And I have never been one to resort violence. But... I have ocular issues.

81 freetoken  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 2:58:16am

Horowitz playing Scriabin:

MP3 Audio
82 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:03:14am

re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth

Ehh, I've got a set of eyes that have been described as both intense and fascinating AND as spooky. Got some sort of pigmentation defect - each eye is a sort of variety sampler, with grey, green, blue, and brown, with grey predominant.

Dated a young lady with one blue eye and one green eye - impossible not to notice, and very striking.

83 laZardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:04:46am

re: #82 Guanxi88

Dated a young lady with one blue eye and one green eye - impossible not to notice, and very striking.

"Cross the T's and dot the...lowercase j's..."

/i liked wayne's world 2. what?

84 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:05:31am

re: #83 laZardo

"Cross the T's and dot the...lowercase j's..."

/i liked wayne's world 2. what?

what?

85 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:06:20am

Gah! It's 3:00 AM already here. Should have knocked off when I first said goodnight. DAMN YOU FREETOKEN!/

Anyhow, g'nite y'all.

86 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:10:43am

re: #84 Guanxi88

what?

Ohh, the permit scene. Never mind.

87 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:19:55am

Jeez! What a dull bunch we are. Someone hand me a folding chair - I'm going to start a new conversation right here and right now.

88 abolitionist  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:20:55am

re: #82 Guanxi88

Ehh, I've got a set of eyes that have been described as both intense and fascinating AND as spooky. Got some sort of pigmentation defect - each eye is a sort of variety sampler, with grey, green, blue, and brown, with grey predominant.

Dated a young lady with one blue eye and one green eye - impossible not to notice, and very striking.

You might find this interesting: Chimera (genetics)

89 laZardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:24:02am

re: #84 Guanxi88

what?

Youtube Video
90 laZardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:43:36am

And now, an updated chart on the distinction between catgirls and furries.
Warning: Graphics SFW but contains meme-slurring.

91 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:48:52am

re: #87 Guanxi88

Jeez! What a dull bunch we are. Someone hand me a folding chair - I'm going to start a new conversation right here and right now.

OR ,, all you need is one other person for a rousing game of musical chairs

92 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:51:57am

Woke up. Sitting on my friend's carport. A truck pulls up. Dude tells me there is a water leak. Go out front. Yep. Pushing about 5 gallons a minute. Not sure how long it has been leaking.
And good morning Honcos.

93 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:53:15am

re: #92 Cannadian Club Akbar

Woke up. Sitting on my friend's carport. A truck pulls up. Dude tells me there is a water leak. Go out front. Yep. Pushing about 5 gallons a minute. Not sure how long it has been leaking.
And good morning Honcos.

Stick your thumb in it

Charge by the hour!

94 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:54:12am

re: #93 sattv4u2

Stick your thumb in it

Charge by the hour!

Is my only choice my thumb? "Cause I got an idea...
/

95 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:57:23am

re: #94 Cannadian Club Akbar

Is my only choice my thumb? "Cause I got an idea...
/

Yeah, but I figured at 5 gallons a minute, you would need something more substantial

96 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:00:55am

re: #95 sattv4u2

Yeah, but I figured at 5 gallons a minute, you would need something more substantial

True. Don't want my outtie to become an innie.
/

97 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:11:01am

heh,, I wonder what you say at your next job interview when the person asks "So why did you leave the Massachusetts Transit Authority?"

[Link: www.boston.com...]

98 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:15:50am

The county just got here to fix the water leak. Funny, if they were to be called because a customer had a problem I'm betting it would take longer. But this is THEIR money they are losing. Heh.

99 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:21:26am

re: #98 Cannadian Club Akbar

The county just got here to fix the water leak. Funny, if they were to be called because a customer had a problem I'm betting it would take longer. But this is THEIR money they are losing. Heh.

Yeah,,, 7 years ago my front lawn was very Very ,, moist
Water dept came out and found the leak on {sigh} my side of the water meter and left within 3 minutes after

Last week a neighbor up the streets front lawn was very Very ,,, moist!

Water dept came out and fixed it immediately because the leak was on the street side of the meter

100 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:23:40am

re: #99 sattv4u2

Dude just dug a hole. He reached in, using his whole arm. Didn't find what he was looking for. D'OH!!!

101 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:25:44am

re: #100 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dude just dug a hole. He reached in, using his whole arm. Didn't find what he was looking for. D'OH!!!

hell,, YOU could have done THAT!

Apply for a job with the water dept!!

102 M. Dubious  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:26:59am

I miss Walter, the Grumpy Old Man of LGF, and hope he is doing well.

103 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:27:52am

re: #101 sattv4u2

hell,, YOU could have done THAT!

Apply for a job with the water dept!!

Poor bastard had to lie flat to try and get a wrench on it. After he used a bucket to remove about 30 gallons.

104 researchok  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:28:24am

Morning, all

105 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:28:48am

re: #103 Cannadian Club Akbar

Poor bastard had to lie flat to try and get a wrench on it. After he used a bucket to remove about 30 gallons.

As I said ,, YOU could have done THAT!

106 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:28:55am

Now his pump won't work.

107 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:29:13am

re: #105 sattv4u2

As I said ,, YOU could have done THAT!

Not without beer!!

108 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:31:19am

Alrighty, gotta get ready to wash the boats. See ya'll this afternoon.:)

109 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:32:14am

Oh, and here's a picture of the office today.

110 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:41:28am

Got a small reprieve. Ya'll are stuck with me for another half hour.

111 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:53:28am

re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar

14th GIS result for 'stuck with me'

[Link: virginialord.files.wordpress.com...]

112 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:54:50am

re: #111 Obdicut

14th GIS result for 'stuck with me'

[Link: virginialord.files.wordpress.com...]

I've had one beer occifer.

113 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:57:11am

re: #112 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey, there might be an NFL season after all.

[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]

In a possible sign of progress, a federal magistrate on Thursday canceled the June 7-8 mediation session in the Tom Brady v. NFL class action, which threatens this year's pro football season.
In a terse order, U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan wrote: "Whereas, the Court has been engaged in confidential settlement discussions involving the above captioned matter, it deems it appropriate to cancel the mediation session previously scheduled in Minneapolis for June 7 and June 8."

114 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 4:59:25am

re: #113 Obdicut

Hey, there might be an NFL season after all.

[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]

The Bucs were supposed to play the Bears in London this year. But I think it got canceled, shifting the game to Tampa.

115 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 5:09:29am

re: #113 Obdicut

Hey, there might be an NFL season after all.

[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]

I'll believe it only when toe hits football on opening kickoff.

116 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 5:12:32am

re: #115 wlewisiii

I'll believe it only when toe hits football on opening kickoff.

Maybe we'll get lucky and get the XFL back!! Not.

117 Ericus58  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 5:26:51am

re: #10 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Your premise that religious individuals lack "rationale" or reason is an opinion that is wrong.

How about those that are "spiritual"?

One's adherence to religion or faith is a personal journey, and there are many paths that lead to this place.

118 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 5:29:49am

re: #117 Ericus58

He didn't say religious people. He said 'prolifer religious types'. The common meaning of prolifer is not someone with a personal objection to abortion, but one who believes that government should severely restrict or ban it.

119 Randall Gross  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 5:51:04am

If you struggle with afterlife vs going off like a light switch, then this course might interest you:

[Link: www.academicearth.org...]

Shelly Kagan thinks light switch is most likely true but he entertains all the opposing arguments during the video course.

120 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 5:52:11am

re: #100 Cannadian Club Akbar

Whaadya standing over the poor guy, offer him a beer or something.

121 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 5:52:15am

re: #119 Thanos

I like "Spook", too, the book by Mary Roach, in which she reports on those who attempt actual scientific investigations of the supernatural.

122 Randall Gross  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 5:57:52am

re: #121 Obdicut

I'll check it out.

123 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 5:58:02am

Can anyone explain what the Chinese did by selling 97% of their T-bills?[Link: cnsnews.com...]
Is it a big deal? Is there a reason they did it on Friday?

124 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:02:29am

re: #123 Shropshire_Slasher

Can anyone explain what the Chinese did by selling 97% of their T-bills?[Link: cnsnews.com...]
Is it a big deal? Is there a reason they did it on Friday?

The most likely is they felt they were holding too much and indulged in a little psyop to mess with the paranoid minds on the right here in the US by how they sold them.

125 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:05:43am

Run for the hills RABID BEVERS
[Link: www.nbcphiladelphia.com...]

126 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:06:08am

re: #125 Shropshire_Slasher

dammit beavers PIMF

127 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:07:25am

re: #124 wlewisiii

Usually politicians like to release good new on Monday and bad news late on Friday.

128 abolitionist  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:09:29am

re: #123 Shropshire_Slasher

Can anyone explain what the Chinese did by selling 97% of their T-bills?[Link: cnsnews.com...]
Is it a big deal? Is there a reason they did it on Friday?

From your link, from a peak of $210.4 billion in May 2009 to $5.69 billion in March 2011, the most recent month reported by the U.S. Treasury. Or was on a friday in reference to the report?

129 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:09:58am

re: #123 Shropshire_Slasher

They think the recession is mostly over.

130 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:11:34am

re: #129 Obdicut

Or: They think the GOP is serious about defaulting on the debt.

131 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:13:54am

re: #128 abolitionist

Friday is when I heard about it, sorry, that doesn't mean nuttin.

132 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:16:32am

I tried rading about T-bills on wiki and my eyes just glazed over...

133 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:22:27am

O well, chores call.

134 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:24:07am

re: #130 Obdicut

Or: They think the GOP is serious about defaulting on the debt.

Awesome.
9_9

135 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:25:58am

re: #134 Varek Raith

Well, short-term bonds are where you want your money if the market is really volatile or you expect stocks to underperform. So if they think the economy has recovered, they'll want that money to invest in stocks.

If they think the GOP will default on debt, then obviously they don't want to be holding that paper either.

136 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:27:58am

re: #135 Obdicut

Well, short-term bonds are where you want your money if the market is really volatile or you expect stocks to underperform. So if they think the economy has recovered, they'll want that money to invest in stocks.

If they think the GOP will default on debt, then obviously they don't want to be holding that paper either.

Ah, I think I get ya.
Economics, how does it work?!
:)

137 The Left  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:31:04am

Morning folks! Well, afternoon here. How's everyone doing?

It's cloudy in Scotland. I've been reading about the Casey Anthony trial. I usually avoid stuff like that but this particular woman-- wow. She appears to have lied about everything in her life for years, even to her own family. Creepy.

138 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:33:20am

Am I right in thinking that t bills are short term investments of the debt?
And that holding on to them when things are recovering is not a worthwhile investment?
Or getting rid of them is smart if we default because they'd be worthless?

139 lazardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:34:02am

re: #136 Varek Raith

Ah, I think I get ya.
Economics, how does it work?!
:)

And I don't wanna hear no economist, yall sucks back the Fed, and making me pissed.

/

140 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:38:04am

re: #138 Varek Raith

Am I right in thinking that t bills are short term investments of the debt?
And that holding on to them when things are recovering is not a worthwhile investment?

Yes. And it's not so much holding onto them, but buying more. They give the lowest returns of all bonds, since they're short-term.

Or getting rid of them is smart if we default because they'd be worthless?

If we default, we probably won't default on the entirety of the debt, but those payments might not be made, or a portion of them. So they wouldn't be worthless, probably, but be less than what you bought them for.

141 Ericus58  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:38:56am

Stolen Data Is Tracked to Hacking at Lockheed
New York Times 06/04/2011
Author: Christopher Drew

"Lockheed Martin said Friday that it had proof that hackers breached its network two weeks ago partly by using data stolen from a vendor that supplies coded security tokens to tens of millions of computer users.

Lockheed’s finding confirmed the fears of security experts about the safety of the SecurID tokens and heightened concerns that other companies or government agencies could be vulnerable to hacking attacks.

The tokens, which are used to protect remote access to computer networks, are sold by the RSA Security Division of the EMC Corporation. RSA officials said Friday that they accepted Lockheed’s findings and were working with customers to offset the risks through other measures.

RSA disclosed in March that hackers had stolen data that could compromise a company’s SecurID system in a broader attack, and the breach of Lockheed, the nation’s largest defense contractor, is the first time that is known to have occurred.

A rash of prominent breaches has brought new attention to an increase in the frequency and sophistication of computer hacking. Google said this week that it believed an effort to steal hundreds of Gmail passwords for accounts of prominent people, including senior American government officials, had originated in China.

The Pentagon, which has long been concerned about efforts by China and Russia to obtain military secrets, announced separately that it would soon view serious computer attacks from foreign nations as acts of war that could result in a military response."

...............................................

142 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 6:42:05am

re: #140 Obdicut

Yes. And it's not so much holding onto them, but buying more. They give the lowest returns of all bonds, since they're short-term.

If we default, we probably won't default on the entirety of the debt, but those payments might not be made, or a portion of them. So they wouldn't be worthless, probably, but be less than what you bought them for.

Thanks.
I understand it better.

143 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:00:04am

Got another one....
Top jihadist leader killed, followers say

The man described by counterterrorism officials as al Qaeda's "military brain," Ilyas Kashmiri, was killed in a drone strike Friday night in Pakistan, a spokesman for his group, the jihadist Harakat-ul-Jihad-Islami, said.

Pakistani officials, however, said they have not confirmed Kashmiri's death.

Kashmiri was killed, along with some aides, in a strike at 11:15 p.m., spokesman Abu Hanzla Kashar said.

144 lazardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:08:41am

BILDURBURRRG~

145 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:20:34am

re: #144 lazardo

BILDURBURRRG~

Glenn Beck will have to cook up an anti-Isreal biblical prophecy/conspiracy theory quick. He's going off the air in a few weeks.

146 jaunte  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:21:22am

San Francisco in 100,000 toothpicks

147 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:21:40am

Instapundit still singing the praises of the fake Wienergate hoax.....

I think there’s an important point in the comic value: The people who think they’re smart enough, and morally superior enough, to run everyone else’s lives are risible. They’re not smart enough, and they’re actually, overall, morally inferior — I mean, John Edwards, DSK, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Barney Frank, Tax Cheat Tim Geithner, just go down the list — and mocking them is inherently valuable. They pursue power, and they exercise power, as much for deference as anything else. Deny them that, and make it painful for them whenever possible. That’s my take.

Posted at 10:02 am by Glenn Reynolds

148 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:23:41am

re: #147 Killgore Trout

I can't even follow that. It's okay to mock people by making up complete bullshit lies, if you think they're morally inferior to you?

I think he's got a weird idea of what 'morally inferior' means.

149 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:24:55am

And I'm back from my whiskey nap.

Somehow, one wishes to believe his presence is more or less a net gain for the world, and yet, every single long booze snooze I've ever taken proves otherwise.

Oh, and ni hao!

150 The Left  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:27:20am

re: #149 Guanxi88

And I'm back from my whiskey nap.

Somehow, one wishes to believe his presence is more or less a net gain for the world, and yet, every single long booze snooze I've ever taken proves otherwise.

Oh, and ni hao!

Auto-upding for the phrase 'whisky nap'.

151 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:28:28am

New --Al-Qaeda Video Instructs American Muslims to Arm Themselves,Encourages Attacks on US

In a chilling video released Friday, American-born Al Qaeda spokesman Adam Gadahn instructs U.S. Muslims to arm themselves at local gun stores and "target major institutions and public figures,"

Yes, it's real. More here: Al Qaeda Spokesman Instructs Terrorists To Stock Up At Local Gun Shows

152 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:30:46am

re: #148 Obdicut

It's okay to mock people by making up complete bullshit lies, if you think they're morally inferior to you?


That's pretty much it.

153 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:32:20am

An interesting thought has been running in circles - like a three-year-old on a combined espresso and chocolate high - round my brain for a while now:

What if the real truth of things lies somewhere between Silenius ("He lives with the least worry who knows not his misfortune; but for humans, the best for them is not to be born at all, not to partake of nature’s excellence; not to be is best, for both sexes. This should our choice, if choice we have; and the next to this is, when we are born, to die as soon as we can.") and Solomon ("better a living dog than a dead lion")?

That is, what if it is a fact that to be born is itself a misfortune, but, for all that, to be alive is better than the alternative, but that, in any event, the end is unavoidable and permanent?

Maybe I need some more bourbon.

154 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:33:24am

re: #150 iceweasel

Auto-upding for the phrase 'whisky nap'.

Inherited, along with his Mason's apron, Peterson System Pipe, and healthy stock of cynical pessimism, from my grandfather.

155 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:33:42am

re: #153 Guanxi88

If I were you, I'd kneecap that three year old!

156 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:34:51am

re: #155 sattv4u2

If I were you, I'd kneecap that three year old!

Yeah, it's another one of those things of which I said to my Bitter Half: "If you think it's hard living with me, try living as me."

157 The Left  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:38:06am

re: #153 Guanxi88


That is, what if it is a fact that to be born is itself a misfortune, but, for all that, to be alive is better than the alternative, but that, in any event, the end is unavoidable and permanent?

Maybe I need some more bourbon.

Maybe that's just the way it is, and all we can do is be good to others and to ourselves, as best we can.

/cynical atheist here

158 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:38:06am

re: #137 iceweasel

Morning folks! Well, afternoon here. How's everyone doing?

It's cloudy in Scotland. I've been reading about the Casey Anthony trial. I usually avoid stuff like that but this particular woman-- wow. She appears to have lied about everything in her life for years, even to her own family. Creepy.

Morning ice! I've been away from laptop for 2 days now, the iPhone doesn't cut it. My mom in Florida is watching the trial, she's hooked. It's a crazy deal. Remember the Nancy graaace non stop coverage?

159 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:38:18am

re: #156 Guanxi88

Thank whatever gods may be that there is not yet such a thing as involuntary telepathy; I'd be feared, hated, and - in certain company - slapped across the face on a fairly regular basis.

160 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:38:49am

It's so hard to believe in anything anymore. I mean, it's like, religion, you really can't take it seriously, because it seems so mythological, it seems so arbitrary...but, on the other hand, science is just pure empiricism, and by virtue of its method, it excludes metaphysics. I guess I wouldn't believe in anything any more if it weren't for my lucky astrology mood watch. - Steve Martin

161 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:39:10am

re: #157 iceweasel

Maybe that's just the way it is, and all we can do is be good to others and to ourselves, as best we can.

/cynical atheist here

Yeah, but I think a dram of the Creature helps that bitter medicine go down a bit more easily.

162 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:39:46am

re: #151 Killgore Trout

Adam Gadahn


Hey,, Sparky

I'm a 57 year old man with a bum knee and a left shoulder thats exploding with pain any time I move my arm more than a few degrees, but lets say you and I man up and meet somewhere, just to have a chat. Yeah,, a chat, thats the ticket! !!!

163 The Left  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:40:26am

re: #158 Stanley Sea

Morning ice! I've been away from laptop for 2 days now, the iPhone doesn't cut it. My mom in Florida is watching the trial, she's hooked. It's a crazy deal. Remember the Nancy graaace non stop coverage?

Nancy Grace makes me ill, but I might have to start watching the live stream coverage. Just reading about it was sucking me in. How are you, cutie?

164 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:40:47am

re: #160 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay
Thats the second time I've upding the same remark thats NOT EVEN YOURS!!

165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:41:27am

re: #158 Stanley Sea

So sad when cute white children/women are murdered. Sure am glad it doesn't seem to happen to other ethnicities.

166 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:41:36am

re: #158 Stanley Sea

Such a strange and dark case. It's casual evil like that which gives me the willies.

167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:42:03am

re: #164 sattv4u2

Dude. It was more appropriate today than it was the other day.

168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:42:34am

re: #164 sattv4u2

Okay
Thats the second time I've upding the same remark thats NOT EVEN YOURS!!

It's so hard to believe in anything anymore. I mean, it's like, religion, you really can't take it seriously, because it seems so mythological, it seems so arbitrary...but, on the other hand, science is just pure empiricism, and by virtue of its method, it excludes metaphysics. I guess I wouldn't believe in anything any more if it weren't for my lucky astrology mood watch. - Steve Martin

169 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:43:20am

re: #168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's so hard to believe in anything anymore. I mean, it's like, religion, you really can't take it seriously, because it seems so mythological, it seems so arbitrary...but, on the other hand, science is just pure empiricism, and by virtue of its method, it excludes metaphysics. I guess I wouldn't believe in anything any more if it weren't for my lucky astrology mood watch. - Steve Martin

Hey, that reminds me of this great Steve Martin quote:

It's so hard to believe in anything anymore. I mean, it's like, religion, you really can't take it seriously, because it seems so mythological, it seems so arbitrary...but, on the other hand, science is just pure empiricism, and by virtue of its method, it excludes metaphysics. I guess I wouldn't believe in anything any more if it weren't for my lucky astrology mood watch. - Steve Martin

170 The Left  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:44:17am

re: #166 Guanxi88

Such a strange and dark case. It's casual evil like that which gives me the willies.

It's really disturbing. There's some jailhouse meeting with her parents where she's crying "I'm just as much a victim as anyone here"-- meanwhile she had a whole coterie of imaginary and invented friends, a fake job..just wow.

171 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:45:01am

re: #151 Killgore Trout

I love this sentence

America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms


Meanwhile, any video coming out of that region shows EVERY SINGLE MAN AND BOY walking around with some kind of weaponery, from AK 47s to rocket launchers!

Yup Adam,,, I see a LOT of those in downtown Atlanta, and in Times Square, and all around Bostons Faneuil Hall Marketplace!

172 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:45:10am

A deja vu within a box within an enigma within a deja vu...

173 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:45:42am

re: #163 iceweasel

Nancy Grace makes me ill, but I might have to start watching the live stream coverage. Just reading about it was sucking me in. How are you, cutie?

I'm good! Just waking up w 1st cup. Nancy Grace is a poisonous soul. But so is ms Anthony it appears. They were made 4 each other.

Does anyone see in spy my accidental downdings, then reversals? Phone too small-it must look funny

174 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:45:47am

In other news - well, there isn't much. The correspondence with the long-lost love continues (she says the amazing thing is that the tone and tenor of my letters to her is more or less unchanged from some stuff I wrote her 20 years ago - just more fully developed. She's quoted some of my old stuff back to me and it's remarkable.) unabated. It's an interesting relationship - sort like Heloise and Abelard, but with a Abelard played by a Jew.

And no castration by her uncles.

175 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:45:59am

re: #171 sattv4u2

I love this sentence

America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms

Meanwhile, any video coming out of that region shows EVERY SINGLE MAN AND BOY walking around with some kind of weaponery, from AK 47s to rocket launchers!

Yup Adam,,, I see a LOT of those in downtown Atlanta, and in Times Square, and all around Bostons Faneuil Hall Marketplace!

Uh, it is stupidly easy to get a gun in this country.
;)

176 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:46:40am

re: #172 Varek Raith

A deja vu within a box within an enigma within a deja vu...

... between two chocolate wafers....

177 The Left  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:47:13am

re: #174 Guanxi88

In other news - well, there isn't much. The correspondence with the long-lost love continues (she says the amazing thing is that the tone and tenor of my letters to her is more or less unchanged from some stuff I wrote her 20 years ago - just more fully developed. She's quoted some of my old stuff back to me and it's remarkable.) unabated. It's an interesting relationship - sort like Heloise and Abelard, but with a Abelard played by a Jew.

And no castration by her uncles.

Have you read their letters? Absolutely amazing-- well, Heloise's are anyway.

178 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:47:27am

re: #175 Varek Raith

Uh, it is stupidly easy to get a gun in this country.
;)

As it should be. Thins the herd, and helps the better element to defend itself from the unthinned.

179 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:47:32am

re: #171 sattv4u2

I love this sentence

America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms

Meanwhile, any video coming out of that region shows EVERY SINGLE MAN AND BOY walking around with some kind of weaponery, from AK 47s to rocket launchers!

Yup Adam,,, I see a LOT of those in downtown Atlanta, and in Times Square, and all around Bostons Faneuil Hall Marketplace!

Good point.

180 The Left  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:48:09am

re: #173 Stanley Sea

I'm good! Just waking up w 1st cup. Nancy Grace is a poisonous soul. But so is ms Anthony it appears. They were made 4 each other.

Does anyone see in spy my accidental downdings, then reversals? Phone too small-it must look funny

I hadn't noticed your downdings. Are you off today? Jimmah was off yesterday and we had a picnic. There was good weather for once! I'll send you some pictures.

181 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:48:20am

re: #177 iceweasel

Have you read their letters? Absolutely amazing-- well, Heloise's are anyway.

Yes, I bought a set and sent them to her last week. (She's a damned mackerel-snapping Papist stooge of Rome, but I overlook that.)

182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:48:49am

re: #174 Guanxi88

And no castration by her uncles, yet.

183 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:49:11am

re: #178 Guanxi88

As it should be. Thins the herd, and helps the better element to defend itself from the unthinned.

I would love to know how many people on the No Fly List have purchased guns in this country.

185 lazardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:49:38am

re: #176 Guanxi88

... between two chocolate wafers...

...with an extra-thick layer of cream...

186 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:49:44am

re: #175 Varek Raith

Ask the elevator operator to let you off at the fifth floor. Thats how far over you head the point was!
oh,, and ;)

187 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:50:01am

re: #182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hell, it's her husband I'm worried about. Although, if I ever suspect that the Bitter Half is getting hip, I'll make sure her husband finds out first - I imagine he'd put me down cleanly.

188 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:50:38am

I just posted this page about a rifleman who shot 30 Taliban. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

189 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:51:04am

re: #185 lazardo

...with an extra-thick layer of cream...

...dipped in rich milk chocolate....

190 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:51:28am

re: #188 PhillyPretzel

I just posted this page about a rifleman who shot 30 Taliban. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Buy that man a cigar!

191 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:51:47am

re: #180 iceweasel

I hadn't noticed your downdings. Are you off today? Jimmah was off yesterday and we had a picnic. There was good weather for once! I'll send you some pictures.

Nope, got to go to clients then visit a friend in hospital. Busy day!

192 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:52:08am

re: #188 PhillyPretzel

Total bad-ass.

193 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:52:29am

re: #190 Guanxi88
He got a very prestigious medal for it.

194 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:52:30am

re: #190 Guanxi88

Buy that man a cigar!

Make him the next Rambo.
:)

195 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:52:33am

re: #188 PhillyPretzel

I just posted this page about a rifleman who shot 30 Taliban. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

A gurkha - why am I not surprised to learn it was a gurkha?

Thank goodness they're on our side.

196 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:52:48am

re: #190 Guanxi88

Buy that man a cigar tropical island!

197 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:53:09am

re: #195 Guanxi88

A gurkha - why am I not surprised to learn it was a gurkha?

Thank goodness they're on our side.

My very favorite kind of pickle!

198 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:53:17am

morning all!

How goes it?

199 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:54:18am

re: #195 Guanxi88
A gurkha - why am I not surprised to learn it was a gurkha?

Thank goodness they're on our side.

One very big yes!

200 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:54:35am

re: #189 Guanxi88

...dipped in rich milk chocolate...

and a cherry on top?

201 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:54:59am

re: #200 ggt

and a cherry on top?

Before or after we batter and deep-fry it?

202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:55:18am

re: #165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So sad when cute white children/women are murdered. Sure am glad it doesn't seem to happen to other ethnicities.

Seriously; I hope that both Greta and Nancy have terrible recurring nightmares and wake-up in puddles of their own sweat.

203 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:56:04am

re: #188 PhillyPretzel

I just posted this page about a rifleman who shot 30 Taliban. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

It's amazing what you can do with the right attitude, 400 rounds, 17 grenades and a claymore mine.

204 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:56:14am

re: #202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Seriously; I hope that both Greta and Nancy have terrible recurring nightmares and wake-up in puddles of their own sweat.

Sadly, though, they've got enough petty cash to sop up the mess. Somehow, I'd be happier if such ghoulishness also cost them money.

205 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:56:38am

re: #201 Guanxi88

Before or after we batter and deep-fry it?

I thought it was Chocolate Fondue --no?

206 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:57:01am

re: #201 Guanxi88

Before or after we batter and deep-fry it?

Speaking of which

Was on my way home from work last night and passing by a sub-division not far from me they were having a neighborhood yard sale/ block party

One house had a deep fryer set up in the driveway

I had my 1st deep fried Twinkie

Not bad ,, not bad at all

207 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:57:09am

re: #205 ggt

I thought it was Chocolate Fondue --no?

No, the fondue is to dip it in before we put it on the ice cream.

208 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:58:08am

re: #207 Guanxi88

No, the fondue is to dip it in before we put it on the ice cream.

oh . .

Well, I think the cherry on top comes last --it is usually the finishing touch or garnish-type of thing.

209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:58:10am

re: #203 darthstar

It's amazing what you can do with the right attitude, 400 rounds, 17 grenades and a claymore mine.

Luck, where practice meets preparation.

210 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:58:52am

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Luck, where practice meets preparation.

Pain,, where sitting too long meets preparation H

211 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:58:57am

re: #206 sattv4u2

Speaking of which

Was on my way home from work last night and passing by a sub-division not far from me they were having a neighborhood yard sale/ block party

One house had a deep fryer set up in the driveway

I had my 1st deep fried Twinkie

Not bad ,, not bad at all

Now that has to be the most anti-nutritious thing I've ever heard about. What are you trying to do to your insides you can't do with alcohol?

212 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:59:15am

re: #210 sattv4u2

Pain,, where sitting too long meets preparation H

Victory loves Preparation!

213 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:59:19am

re: #188 PhillyPretzel

Imagine this coming at you...

214 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:59:21am

re: #211 ggt

Now that has to be the most anti-nutritious thing I've ever heard about. What are you trying to do to your insides you can't do with alcohol?

Who said I didn't have a drink to go with it?

215 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 7:59:59am

re: #181 Guanxi88

Yes, I bought a set and sent them to her last week. (She's a damned mackerel-snapping Papist stooge of Rome, but I overlook that.)

(Amazing, by the way, the subterfuge required. Had to box them up bearing the logo and marks of my now-defunct import company and ship them to her office.)

216 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:00:08am

re: #213 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Imagine this coming at you...

no, I don't want to.

217 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:00:23am

re: #208 ggt

oh . .

Well, I think the cherry on top comes last --it is usually the finishing touch or garnish-type of thing.

Who says we're stopping?

218 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:00:30am

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Luck, where practice meets preparation.

A radio would have been nice to have, I suppose. But it doesn't sound like he had time to call for assistance. Someone will turn this into a made for TV movie starring Charlie Sheen or Snooki.

Hell of a fight, though...gotta hand it to the guy.

219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:00:38am

re: #206 sattv4u2

Americans are trying to figure out a way to deep-fry lettuce.

220 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:00:57am

re: #214 sattv4u2

Who said I didn't have a drink to go with it?

Thunderbird and Night Train both pair nicely with deep-fried twinkies, I imagine.

221 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:01:30am

re: #220 Guanxi88

Thunderbird and Night Train both pair nicely with deep-fried twinkies, I imagine.

Don't forget the pork rinds!

222 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:02:00am

re: #219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Americans are trying to figure out a way to deep-fry lettuce.

Trying to be vegetarians--for the health benefits?

223 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:02:03am

re: #220 Guanxi88

Thunderbird and Night Train both pair nicely with deep-fried twinkies, I imagine.

Mad Dog 20 20 for when I'm slummin it

224 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:02:42am

re: #219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Americans are trying to figure out a way to deep-fry lettuce.

Don't forget, we here in Texas have defied the laws of reason and Nature itself and deep-fried beer:

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Kinda makes the space program and fusion seem like child's play.

225 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:03:11am

re: #224 Guanxi88

Don't forget, we here in Texas have defied the laws of reason and Nature itself and deep-fried beer:

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Kinda makes the space program and fusion seem like child's play.

What about curing the common cold?

226 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:03:44am

re: #225 ggt

What about curing the common cold?

That's what whiskey and brandy are for - it's been done already.

227 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:04:01am

re: #225 ggt

What about curing the common cold?

When you're chewing on a deep fried beercycle, who cares if you're sneezing!?!?

228 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:04:42am

re: #90 laZardo

And now, an updated chart on the distinction between catgirls and furries.
Warning: Graphics SFW but contains meme-slurring.

The key difference is that unlike furries, catgirls die if your bring up real-world physics whiles playing Battletech.

/gamer humor

229 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:05:33am

re: #228 Dark_Falcon

The key difference is that unlike furries, catgirls die if your bring up real-world physics whiles playing Battletech.

/gamer humor

Image: God_kills_catgirl.gif

230 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:05:54am

re: #223 sattv4u2

Mad Dog 20 20 for when I'm slummin it

See, your problem is, you've got standards. I find that my life has gotten far simpler since I just gave up - why even pretend to be drinking wine (MD 20/20) when you can just have Thunderbird (with its zesty benzene nose and kerosene notes) or Night Train (with its thick, industrial mouth-feel, and warm novocaine finish)?

231 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:06:47am

re: #230 Guanxi88

See, your problem is, you've got standards. I find that my life has gotten far simpler since I just gave up - why even pretend to be drinking wine (MD 20/20) when you can just have Thunderbird (with its zesty benzene nose and kerosene notes) or Night Train (with its thick, industrial mouth-feel, and warm novocaine finish)?

Descriptions like make me really glad I don't drink anymore. . . .

232 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:07:25am

re: #230 Guanxi88

See, your problem is, you've got standards. I find that my life has gotten far simpler since I just gave up - why even pretend to be drinking wine (MD 20/20) when you can just have Thunderbird (with its zesty benzene nose and kerosene notes) or Night Train (with its thick, industrial mouth-feel, and warm novocaine finish)?

Because some of us at times can't afford all those fancy-schmanzie chemical based concoctions!

233 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:07:46am

re: #231 ggt

Descriptions like make me really glad I don't drink anymore. . . .

yeah, the best thing one can say about these budget fortified wines is that they'll stop the D.T.'s and probably won't kill you that day.

234 jaunte  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:07:51am

Fukushima #1 getting worse:

Tepco said Saturday it has detected radiation of up to 4,000 millisieverts per hour at the building housing the No. 1 reactor at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant.

The radiation reading, which was taken when Tokyo Electric Power Co. sent a robot into the No. 1 reactor building on Friday, is believed to be the largest detected in the air at the plant so far.
....
Tepco has said radioactive water could start overflowing from temporary storage areas on June 20, or possibly sooner if there is heavy rainfall.[Link: search.japantimes.co.jp...]

235 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:07:57am

re: #232 sattv4u2

Because some of us at times can't afford all those fancy-schmanzie chemical based concoctions!

Fresh Coffee, cream and sugar is my recommendation!

236 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:08:03am

re: #231 ggt

Descriptions like make me really glad I don't drink anymore. . . .

I don't drink anymore either

I also don't drink any less

237 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:08:36am

re: #195 Guanxi88

A gurkha - why am I not surprised to learn it was a gurkha?

Thank goodness they're on our side.

It was also Gurkhas who guarded that UN building attacked in Mazar-e-Sharif after Pastor Jones did his Koran-burning stunt. Those Gurkhas were killed, but they each took at least 1 fanatic with them to the hereafter. Earlier this year, one Gurkha who had been a soldier chased a gang of robbers off a train in India, armed only with his kukri.

238 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:08:51am

re: #232 sattv4u2

Because some of us at times can't afford all those fancy-schmanzie chemical based concoctions!

That's when you go to the supermarket and buy a gallon of apple juice, a packet of yeast, and a balloon to put on the top for an air-lock. Sometimes, ya gotta roll yer own.

239 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:08:54am

re: #235 ggt

Fresh Coffee, VERY LITTLE cream and sugar is my recommendation!


oh, and while you're at it, i'll have a bagel too, K?

240 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:09:42am

re: #238 Guanxi88

That's when you go to the supermarket and buy a gallon of apple juice, a packet of yeast, and a balloon to put on the top for an air-lock. Sometimes, ya gotta roll yer own.

But that takes ,, like time ,,,and effort!!

241 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:10:10am

re: #240 sattv4u2

But that takes ,, like time ,,,and effort!!

It's drinkable - though not pleasant - in a week.

So I'm told.

242 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:11:34am

re: #241 Guanxi88

It's drinkable - though not pleasant - in a week.

So I'm told.

Okay ,, ,so lets do the math

Go to the grocery store,,, come home,,, mix,,, wait a week

Go to the liquor store (which is in the same parking lot as the grocery store) buy a bottle, get back in the car ,, START!!

243 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:13:09am

Oh well, re: #242 sattv4u2

Okay ,, ,so lets do the math

Go to the grocery store,,, come home,,, mix,,, wait a week

Go to the liquor store (which is in the same parking lot as the grocery store) buy a bottle, get back in the car ,, START!!

True enough, but sometimes, one finds himself a bit short on funds - or his Bitter Half sick and tired of the drinking - in which case a fellow might just have to ferment his own in a discreet place, like, say, the trunk of an old Mercedes Diesel sedan, to pick a place just off the top of my head.

244 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:13:37am

re: #242 sattv4u2

Okay ,, ,so lets do the math

Go to the grocery store,,, come home,,, mix,,, wait a week

Go to the liquor store (which is in the same parking lot as the grocery store) buy a bottle, get back in the carsit on the curb ,, START!!


If you're serious about this, you need to do it right.

245 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:14:31am

re: #243 Guanxi88

Oh well,

True enough, but sometimes, one finds himself a bit short on funds - or his Bitter Half sick and tired of the drinking - in which case a fellow might just have to ferment his own in a discreet place, like, say, the trunk of an old Mercedes Diesel sedan, to pick a place just off the top of my head.

There's always brake fluid.

246 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:14:47am

Image: radiationchart.pngre: #234 jaunte

Fukushima #1 getting worse:

That's 4 sieverts.

3 – 6 Sv (3000 – 6000 mSv): Severe nausea, loss of appetite; hemorrhaging, infection, diarrhea, peeling of skin, sterility; death if untreated.
247 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:15:24am

re: #246 Varek Raith

Image: radiationchart.png

That's 4 sieverts.

Isn't that a normal day for you --being undead and all?

248 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:15:37am

re: #245 darthstar

There's always brake fluid.

I save that for company.

249 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:15:47am

I was worried that Monday night's frog noise might start to piss off the neighbors but it seems to have only made the frogs more popular, especially with the boys in the neighborhood . I was the guest of honor last night at the hippie neighbor's new after dinner tradition called a frog party. They have desert on the porch and listen to the frogs until bedtime. This morning another little boy from down the road asked me (very politely) if I would give him one of the frogs as a pet.

250 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:16:00am
* 0 – 0.25 Sv (0 – 250 mSv): None
* 0.25 – 1 Sv (250 – 1000 mSv): Some people feel nausea and loss of appetite; bone marrow, lymph nodes, spleen damaged.
* 1 – 3 Sv (1000 – 3000 mSv): Mild to severe nausea, loss of appetite, infection; more severe bone marrow, lymph node, spleen damage; recovery probable, not assured.
* 3 – 6 Sv (3000 – 6000 mSv): Severe nausea, loss of appetite; hemorrhaging, infection, diarrhea, peeling of skin, sterility; death if untreated.
* 6 – 10 Sv (6000 – 10000 mSv): Above symptoms plus central nervous system impairment; death expected.
* Above 10 Sv (10000 mSv): Incapacitation and death.
251 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:16:14am

re: #244 darthstar

If you're serious about this, you need to do it right.

re: #243 Guanxi88

re: #245 darthstar

There's always brake fluid.

Why drink the brake fluid found under the hood when Guanxi clearly stated the good stuff is in the trunk!?!?!

252 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:16:29am

re: #249 Killgore Trout

I was worried that Monday night's frog noise might start to piss off the neighbors but it seems to have only made the frogs more popular, especially with the boys in the neighborhood . I was the guest of honor last night at the hippie neighbor's new after dinner tradition called a frog party. They have desert on the porch and listen to the frogs until bedtime. This morning another little boy from down the road asked me (very politely) if I would give him one of the frogs as a pet.

Did he name it "y"?

253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:16:37am

re: #246 Varek Raith

Severe nausea, loss of appetite; hemorrhaging, infection, diarrhea, peeling of skin, sterility; death if untreated.

That is not funny.

Unless, of course, you read it using the "disclaimer voice" on drug commercials.

254 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:16:54am

re: #251 sattv4u2

re: #243 Guanxi88

re: #245 darthstar

Why drink the brake fluid found under the hood when Guanxi clearly stated the good stuff is in the trunk!?!?!

Who says it's any better than brake fluid? It is cheaper, though.

255 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:17:03am

re: #252 ggt

Did he name it "y"?

Wienergate!

256 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:17:55am

And on that note

Toodles

257 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:18:09am

re: #251 sattv4u2

re: #243 Guanxi88

re: #245 darthstar

Why drink the brake fluid found under the hood when Guanxi clearly stated the good stuff is in the trunk!?!?!

SCTV flashback:

"Georgi, some rotten Uzbeks drank my battery fluid!"

258 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:18:29am

re: #255 Killgore Trout

Wienergate!

Our patio frog seems to have moved-on. Hope he found true love.

259 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:19:38am

re: #258 ggt

"To blathe?"

260 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:21:22am

re: #256 sattv4u2

And on that note

Toodles

What note? Was there a link?

261 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:22:14am

re: #260 ggt
You are being silly. It is just an expression.

262 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:22:57am

re: #261 PhillyPretzel

You are being silly. It is just an expression.

No, it is you who are being silly. He clearly was supposed to leave a note!

263 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:23:05am

re: #249 Killgore Trout

I was worried that Monday night's frog noise might start to piss off the neighbors but it seems to have only made the frogs more popular, especially with the boys in the neighborhood . I was the guest of honor last night at the hippie neighbor's new after dinner tradition called a frog party. They have desert on the porch and listen to the frogs until bedtime. This morning another little boy from down the road asked me (very politely) if I would give him one of the frogs as a pet.

You let them Commune With Nature. Of course the hippies love you. Just don't let them hug, they don't bath.

/that last sentence is just kidding

264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:23:19am

re: #258 ggt

But that's not what he said! He distinctly said 'to blathe' and as we all know 'to blathe' means to bluff! Ah, and you were probably playing cards, and he cheated!

265 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:23:39am

re: #258 ggt

Our patio frog seems to have moved-on. Hope he found true love.

What kind of frog was it?

266 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:23:57am

Let's see what else is happening now:

I'm trying to schedule time to walk down to the river to sit and contemplate the mystery of Being (flowing by, like the river itself, into which one can never step twice, and all that sort of thing). Problem is, can't seem to find an excuse the Frau is willing to accept to let me just head off like that.

(So far as she knows, I've got no soul worth mentioning - I'm a stats and dollars and cents kinda guy to her. If she knew about this sort of side of me - that I write and have been published under pseudonyms and as a ghost, etc. - she'd probably go berserk.)

267 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:24:41am

re: #265 Dark_Falcon

What kind of frog was it?

I don't know, some thing that looked like a spotted stone. About the size of my (small) fist.

268 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:24:42am

re: #265 Dark_Falcon

What kind of frog was it?

patio frog

269 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:25:05am

re: #267 ggt

I don't know, some thing that looked like a spotted stone. About the size of my (small) fist.

stoned patio frog

270 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:25:35am

re: #266 Guanxi88

Let's see what else is happening now:

I'm trying to schedule time to walk down to the river to sit and contemplate the mystery of Being (flowing by, like the river itself, into which one can never step twice, and all that sort of thing). Problem is, can't seem to find an excuse the Frau is willing to accept to let me just head off like that.

(So far as she knows, I've got no soul worth mentioning - I'm a stats and dollars and cents kinda guy to her. If she knew about this sort of side of me - that I write and have been published under pseudonyms and as a ghost, etc. - she'd probably go berserk.)

She probably knows you better than you know yourself.

271 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:25:36am

There are these extremely loud toads 3 block away. Ear splittingly loud toads.

272 jaunte  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:25:53am

re: #266 Guanxi88

Just say you need to go find a 5/16" stainless spacebar to repair the ertsleben frebbintzmacher; it might take a while.

273 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:26:00am

re: #267 ggt

I don't know, some thing that looked like a spotted stone. About the size of my (small) fist.

Ughh! Hemingway flashback:

"The whole in the front of his head was about the size of a pencil. The whole at the back of his head was about the size of your fist, if it was a small fist and you wanted to put it there."

274 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:26:47am

re: #270 ggt

She probably knows you better than you know yourself.

Yeah, there's always that chance. She'd most likely object to the whole "buddha without the uppas tree" trip on grounds that I could be working on the fence.

275 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:27:45am

re: #274 Guanxi88

Yeah, there's always that chance. She'd most likely object to the whole "buddha without the uppas tree" trip on grounds that I could be working on the fence.

Sucks sometimes when you choose to live the life of a 'householder'. Can't just go off and sit on the mountain when you want to.

I feel your pain.

276 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:28:26am

re: #274 Guanxi88

Yeah, there's always that chance. She'd most likely object to the whole "buddha without the uppas tree" trip on grounds that I could be working on the fence.

Go work on the fence...it's outside, right?

277 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:28:28am

re: #275 ggt

Sucks sometimes when you choose to live the life of a 'householder'. Can't just go off and sit on the mountain when you want to.

I feel your pain.

Yeah, we pays our money and takes our chances.....

278 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:28:37am

re: #274 Guanxi88

Yeah, there's always that chance. She'd most likely object to the whole "buddha without the uppas tree" trip on grounds that I could be working on the fence.

Although working on the fence can be a zen experience if you make it so.

279 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:29:09am

re: #276 darthstar

Go work on the fence...it's outside, right?

yeah, but not by the river, sadly, and the property (1/40th an acre) is small enough that I couldn't really use the excuse of "I was there, you just didn't see me".

280 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:29:31am

re: #266 Guanxi88

Let's see what else is happening now:

I'm trying to schedule time to walk down to the river to sit and contemplate the mystery of Being (flowing by, like the river itself, into which one can never step twice, and all that sort of thing). Problem is, can't seem to find an excuse the Frau is willing to accept to let me just head off like that.

(So far as she knows, I've got no soul worth mentioning - I'm a stats and dollars and cents kinda guy to her. If she knew about this sort of side of me - that I write and have been published under pseudonyms and as a ghost, etc. - she'd probably go berserk.)

I have lost myself in your words but Boo thinks you are just ducky. Onward!
-Minsc

281 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:29:35am

re: #278 ggt

Although working on the fence can be a zen experience if you make it so.

Not when it's a hundred degrees outside and the skeeters are feeding.

282 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:30:36am

re: #281 Guanxi88

Not when it's a hundred degrees outside and the skeeters are feeding.

You are obviously not far enough along in your journey. Such outward things are just a distraction. Learn to let them be.

283 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:31:19am

re: #278 ggt

Although working on the fence can be a zen experience if you make it so.

Or even just pretending to work on the fence...eventually, you find yourself actually tamping in a fence post...the next thing you know, the fence looks great, it's almost six pm, and your wife is standing outside wearing nothing but an apron and holding up a six pack of beer.

284 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:31:26am

re: #281 Guanxi88

Not when it's a hundred degrees outside and the skeeters are feeding.

Bug spray, hats, cool drinks - - you could even hook up a fan --extension cords are a modern marvel.

285 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:31:28am

re: #249 Killgore Trout

I was worried that Monday night's frog noise might start to piss off the neighbors but it seems to have only made the frogs more popular, especially with the boys in the neighborhood . I was the guest of honor last night at the hippie neighbor's new after dinner tradition called a frog party. They have desert on the porch and listen to the frogs until bedtime. This morning another little boy from down the road asked me (very politely) if I would give him one of the frogs as a pet.

I can't believe anybody would be upset by the sounds of the frogs!

When I was growing up, we didn't have AC, and so in the summer we had to sleep with the windows open and the attic fan going to bring in a breeze. When I think about my childhood, one of the things that stands out most in my memory is the sound of summertime - the cicadas at sunset, the frogs and crickets in the evening. I loved it! Still do, and I'll go sit outside now on my porch after dark sometimes, just to hear those sounds.

286 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:31:39am

re: #282 ggt

You are obviously not far enough along in your journey. Such outward things are just a distraction. Learn to let them be.

that's why I gotta go and meditate by the river, see? Maybe you could explain it to her for me.

287 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:32:11am

re: #286 Guanxi88

that's why I gotta go and meditate by the river, see? Maybe you could explain it to her for me.

No, I think your work both inward and outward lies in the fence.

288 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:32:47am

Wisconsin Republicans continue their political suicide....
The Wisconsin legislature's war against microbreweries

Worried that perhaps microbrewers were operating in too free a market, legislative Republicans have proposed even more restrictions on the beer distribution business. Although the motion approved by JFC will now allow microbrewers to distribute their own beer to retailers, but it will forbid them from holding wholesalers licenses, which, as some articles have indicated, means microbrewers will not be able to band together to distribute beer.*

And what would Walker-era legislation be if it didn't offer more power to state government? The legislation also takes the power of licensing of wholesalers away from municipalities and puts them under the control of the state Department of Revenue.

289 Guanxi88  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:32:53am

re: #287 ggt

No, I think your work both inward and outward lies in the fence.

What the hell! I'm outta bourbon anyway, and the store doesn't open for another 90 minutes or so.

290 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:33:45am

re: #288 Killgore Trout

Small government! Pro-business!

291 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:33:49am

re: #288 Killgore Trout

Wisconsin Republicans continue their political suicide...
The Wisconsin legislature's war against microbreweries

"Too free a market"???
COMMIES!

292 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:35:11am

Was (kinda) forced to watch Hannity last night. Palin was being interviewed. Was too tired and lazy to leave the room. I don't know why I was inflicted such self-torture. Must be some deep-seated Catholic childhood thing.

Anyway, the GOP is truly fucked.

293 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:35:36am

re: #288 Killgore Trout

Wisconsin Republicans continue their political suicide...
The Wisconsin legislature's war against microbreweries

The Wisconsin GOP is in the pocket of Big Beer! (and that means shitty beer)

Why don't they go after somebody nobody gives a shit about, like Packers fans? Leave the brewers (beer, not Milwaukee) alone!

294 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:36:08am

re: #285 reine.de.tout

I was at a hotel once with a pond that must've had a gazillion peepers. Was deafening and wonderful all at once.

Head a guest at the front desk complaining about the noise.

Noise? Are you kidding?

295 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:36:10am

re: #292 ggt

Was (kinda) forced to watch Hannity last night. Palin was being interviewed. Was too tired and lazy to leave the room. I don't know why I was inflicted such self-torture. Must be some deep-seated Catholic childhood thing.

Anyway, the GOP is truly fucked.

I'm sure he gave her a good interview.

296 lazardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:36:11am

re: #292 ggt

Was (kinda) forced to watch Hannity last night. Palin was being interviewed. Was too tired and lazy to leave the room. I don't know why I was inflicted such self-torture. Must be some deep-seated Catholic childhood thing.

Anyway, the GOP is truly fucked.

That's a given.

What isn't is if they'll leave the nation truly fucked in their wake.

297 jaunte  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:36:30am

re: #288 Killgore Trout

It seems a rather blatant attempt to appease the Tavern League, which supported the legislation, and hopes that brewpubs don't threaten their businesses.


Looks like the Tavern League united their citizens and $poke to the legislators.

298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:36:30am

re: #294 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was at a hotel once with a pond that must've had a gazillion peepers. Was deafening and wonderful all at once.

Heard a guest at the front desk complaining about the noise.

Noise? Are you kidding?

299 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:36:37am

I may have to log-off quickly soon. If you don't hear from me, have a great day all!

300 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:36:47am

re: #285 reine.de.tout

I can't believe anybody would be upset by the sounds of the frogs!

When I was growing up, we didn't have AC, and so in the summer we had to sleep with the windows open and the attic fan going to bring in a breeze. When I think about my childhood, one of the things that stands out most in my memory is the sound of summertime - the cicadas at sunset, the frogs and crickets in the evening. I loved it! Still do, and I'll go sit outside now on my porch after dark sometimes, just to hear those sounds.

I was concerned that people might get cranky being woken up, oversleeping for work, or whatever. Everybody seems cool about it. It seems that there;s a very brief noisy period of a day or two at the end of the mating season when some frogs are in the mood and others aren't. I think they're don mating noise and back to just pleasant chirping. Very soothing.

301 Ericus58  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:37:13am

re: #283 darthstar

Or even just pretending to work on the fence...eventually, you find yourself actually tamping in a fence post...the next thing you know, the fence looks great, it's almost six pm, and your wife is standing outside wearing nothing but an apron and holding up a six pack of beer.

I'm suddenly overcome with a deep thirst....

302 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:38:01am

re: #301 Ericus58

I'm suddenly overcome with a deep thirst...

IT'S A TRAP!

303 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:38:47am

re: #302 Varek Raith

IT'S A TRAP!

For some reason, I first read that as TARP.

why?

304 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:39:17am

re: #303 ggt

For some reason, I first read that as TARP.

why?

Image: 943218526d1289390128-fight-map-tarp.gif

305 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:40:19am

re: #304 Varek Raith

Image: 943218526d1289390128-fight-map-tarp.gif

complete with duct tape -- aliens rock!

306 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:40:47am

Update on the Gmail hacks....
Gmail hacking was directed at White House

The computer phishing scam that Google says originated in China was directed at an unknown number of White House staff officials and set off the FBI inquiry that began this week, according to several administration officials.

It is unclear how many White House staff members — or those of other departments in the executive branch — might have been targeted, according to two officials with knowledge of the investigation. But the intended victims ranged across different functions in the White House, and were not limited to those working on national security, economic policy, or trade areas that would be of particular interest to the Chinese government.

307 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:42:35am

re: #306 Killgore Trout

Update on the Gmail hacks...
Gmail hacking was directed at White House

AS long as the frogs weren't involved . . .

308 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:43:08am

re: #300 Killgore Trout

I was concerned that people might get cranky being woken up, oversleeping for work, or whatever. Everybody seems cool about it. It seems that there;s a very brief noisy period of a day or two at the end of the mating season when some frogs are in the mood and others aren't. I think they're don mating noise and back to just pleasant chirping. Very soothing.

I just recall loving going to sleep to those sounds. Summertime was such a free time - no school, nothing planned to do and then the wonderful sounds of life all around. Well, maybe I was weird, I dunno.

And of course, little boys are going to ALWAYS love frogs. Girls too - my daughter had a pet frog for awhile, and we have a whole bunch of toads that live under the planks bordering the flower bed next to our patio - great fun to stick a hose under there and make them peep out.

309 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:43:18am

re: #306 Killgore Trout

Update on the Gmail hacks...
Gmail hacking was directed at White House

But the Chinese are our friends! Wal-Mart!

310 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:43:56am

re: #309 darthstar

But the Chinese are our friends! Wal-Mart!

Cheap shit! Yay!

311 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:44:48am

re: #309 darthstar

But the Chinese are our friends! Wal-Mart!

embrace China, embrace Change. Be one with the Brave New World!

312 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:49:02am

Animal Nuz today is pretty funny...(comic strip at dKos)
Rosa Parks - Palin style: Image: strip_49_panel_2.jpg

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

313 lazardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:52:51am

re: #302 Varek Raith

IT'S A TRAP!

But they're so delicious~

/oh, that kind of trap.

314 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:54:17am

re: #308 reine.de.tout

I just recall loving going to sleep to those sounds. Summertime was such a free time - no school, nothing planned to do and then the wonderful sounds of life all around. Well, maybe I was weird, I dunno.

And of course, little boys are going to ALWAYS love frogs. Girls too - my daughter had a pet frog for awhile, and we have a whole bunch of toads that live under the planks bordering the flower bed next to our patio - great fun to stick a hose under there and make them peep out.

I miss fireflies. For some reason they don't have them out here of the left coast.

316 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:54:55am

re: #288 Killgore Trout

Wisconsin Republicans continue their political suicide...
The Wisconsin legislature's war against microbreweries

Yeah, but as the article noted this bill isn't so much a GOP thing as it is a Wisconsin Legislature thing. The state government there is protecting its big beer businesses, and has consistently under both Democrats and Republicans. If microbrewers want some consideration, they should consider forming a group to protect an incumbent state senator from recall. Make yourself vital for keeping a politician in office and you'll win some favor.

317 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:55:06am

has anyone seen the latest craze in nail polish? Crackle Nails.

I can't decide if I like it or not. Definitely not for someone of my "maturity" but it can look kinda cool on the teenagers.

I know you all are sooo interesting in fashion trends. :)

318 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:55:23am

re: #308 reine.de.tout

and we have a whole bunch of toads that live under the planks bordering the flower bed next to our patio - great fun to stick a hose under there and make them peep out.+

so you're waterboarding your toads!?!?!

319 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:55:59am

re: #318 sattv4u2

and we have a whole bunch of toads that live under the planks bordering the flower bed next to our patio - great fun to stick a hose under there and make them peep out.+

so you're waterboarding your toads!?!?!

hahaha!
Well, basically - YEAH!

320 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:56:41am

James Arness dead at 88. [Link: tv.yahoo.com...]

321 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:57:13am

re: #302 Varek Raith

IT'S A TRAP!

Said right before his Star Cruiser is blown out from under him.

/how the Battle of Endor would have gone if Varek had been Emperor.

322 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:57:22am

re: #319 reine.de.tout

hahaha!
Well, basically - YEAH!

and you are admitting it on the intertoobs?

PETA will find out.

323 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:57:53am

re: #317 ggt

has anyone seen the latest craze in nail polish? Crackle Nails.

I can't decide if I like it or not. Definitely not for someone of my "maturity" but it can look kinda cool on the teenagers.

I know you all are sooo interesting in fashion trends. :)

Link not working. Here's one.

I think you should go for it.
A manicure is temporary - a week or two - and you can go on to something else. Might as well try something, eh?

324 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:58:44am

re: #314 Killgore Trout

I miss fireflies. For some reason they don't have them out here of the left coast.

I'll jar some of the ones 'round here and send them to you

One of our dogs (McDuff,, the West Highland Terrier) sees the light, runs after them, then when he gets to the place where it was lit up, just stops until he sees the next one seconds later

rinse,, repeat

325 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:59:36am

re: #323 reine.de.tout
No thanks.

326 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 8:59:58am

re: #323 reine.de.tout

Link not working. Here's one.

I think you should go for it.
A manicure is temporary - a week or two - and you can go on to something else. Might as well try something, eh?

Maybe on my toes.

327 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:00:05am

re: #314 Killgore Trout

I miss fireflies. For some reason they don't have them out here of the left coast.

Shame. For some reason, I don't see them at all here in BR, though they were all over the place where I grew up in Central La.

328 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:00:17am

re: #314 Killgore Trout

re: #324 sattv4u2

I'll jar some of the ones 'round here and send them to you

One of our dogs (McDuff,, the West Highland Terrier) sees the light, runs after them, then when he gets to the place where it was lit up, just stops until he sees the next one seconds later

rinse,, repeat

Oh ,, and lady bugs too. i'll send you as many as you want

Last spring/ summer was amazing. The backside of the house looked as if we had red ploka dotted it

329 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:01:04am

re: #328 sattv4u2

re: #324 sattv4u2

Oh ,, and lady bugs too. i'll send you as many as you want

Last spring/ summer was amazing. The backside of the house looked as if we had red ploka dotted it

OH, I HATE those things.

Vacuums were designed for creepy biting crawlies like Lady bugs.

330 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:01:34am

re: #329 ggt

OH, I HATE those things.

Vacuums were designed for creepy biting crawlies like Lady bugs.

LadyBuggist

331 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:01:52am

re: #326 ggt

Maybe on my toes.

Sure!

I let my hairdresser do something different and UP TO DATE with my hair color a couple of days ago. I'm still trying to figure out if I like it or not. I figure I'll give it a week to get accustomed to it and then decide. And yeah- the crackle on the toes would be nice. Maybe I'll check into it myself . . . it's not permanent, fer cryin' out loud.

332 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:02:05am

re: #328 sattv4u2

re: #324 sattv4u2

Oh ,, and lady bugs too. i'll send you as many as you want

Last spring/ summer was amazing. The backside of the house looked as if we had red ploka dotted it

not to mention polka dotted

333 lazardo  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:02:12am

re: #330 sattv4u2

LadyBuggist

LadyBugger.

;P

334 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:03:04am

gotta go --have a great day all!

335 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:03:08am

re: #325 PhillyPretzel

No thanks.

This one isn't too "out there".

336 blueraven  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:04:54am

re: #300 Killgore Trout

I was concerned that people might get cranky being woken up, oversleeping for work, or whatever. Everybody seems cool about it. It seems that there;s a very brief noisy period of a day or two at the end of the mating season when some frogs are in the mood and others aren't. I think they're don mating noise and back to just pleasant chirping. Very soothing.

heh! mr blueraven is just about tired of my pond frogs. They are really, really loud. Every night with the partying!

I have seen more this year than ever. Lots of babies. I'm gonna have to do something, but dont know what yet.

337 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:05:54am

re: #329 ggt

OH, I HATE those things.

Vacuums were designed for creepy biting crawlies like Lady bugs.

Ladybugs don't bite...they do eat aphids though.

338 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:06:49am

re: #336 blueraven

heh! mr blueraven is just about tired of my pond frogs. They are really, really loud. Every night with the partying!

I have seen more this year than ever. Lots of babies. I'm gonna have to do something, but dont know what yet.

Put in a bullfrog. They eat smaller frogs.

339 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:07:55am

re: #337 darthstar

Ladybugs don't bite...they do eat aphids though.

The ones we have in Illinois bite (ggt and I both live in the Chicago suburbs). But they do indeed keep the aphid population in check.

340 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:11:25am

re: #336 blueraven

I have seen more this year than ever. Lots of babies. I'm gonna have to do something, but dont know what yet.

Depending on how much territory you have to cover you could try a Deer Chaser....

Youtube Video

I would suggest a large one (or two) with a fairly slow water flow. Timed to go off maybe every five minutes or so. The splash of the water and the thump of it resetting might keep the frogs nervous enough to keep quiet. I'm not sure it'll work but it's worth a try. Bamboo can be tricky to work with but you could build one out of PVC pipe in a couple hours.

341 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:11:32am

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

The ones we have in Illinois bite (ggt and I both live in the Chicago suburbs). But they do indeed keep the aphid population in check.

Chicago style Ladybugs? Must everything be about Obama? //

342 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:11:43am

re: #331 reine.de.tout

Sure!

I let my hairdresser do something different and UP TO DATE with my hair color a couple of days ago. I'm still trying to figure out if I like it or not. I figure I'll give it a week to get accustomed to it and then decide. And yeah- the crackle on the toes would be nice. Maybe I'll check into it myself . . . it's not permanent, fer cryin' out loud.

blue!?!?!

(duckin')

343 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:13:46am

My wife and daughter did the crackle nail thing, looked real cool, wish I was a girl...

344 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:14:19am

re: #342 sattv4u2

blue!?!?!

(duckin')


Something different, she said...

345 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:16:31am

re: #341 darthstar

Chicago style Ladybugs? Must everything be about Obama? //

SMACK!

346 ElCapitanAmerica  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:20:23am

Have you guys noticed all these blog comments all over the place trying to explain how Sarah Palin was right about Paul Revere??? It's quite amazing!

And of course, our good friend, the renown American historian and scholar Jim dim Hoft is now an expert;

"MEDIA CAUGHT IN ANOTHER SMEAR… Palin Did Not Misspeak on Paul Revere"
[Link: gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com...]

347 blueraven  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:21:01am

re: #340 Killgore Trout

Depending on how much territory you have to cover you could try a Deer Chaser...

[Video]I would suggest a large one (or two) with a fairly slow water flow. Timed to go off maybe every five minutes or so. The splash of the water and the thump of it resetting might keep the frogs nervous enough to keep quiet. I'm not sure it'll work but it's worth a try. Bamboo can be tricky to work with but you could build one out of PVC pipe in a couple hours.

Oh goodie...a project!

Looks kinda cool!

348 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:23:32am

re: #347 blueraven

Oh goodie...a project!

Looks kinda cool!

It's not too hard. The trickiest part is getting the balance right, a little trial and error and you can figure it out.

349 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:23:38am

re: #342 sattv4u2

blue!?!?!

(duckin')

Lord spare me from the blue hair! And driving at 20 mph while peering over the steering wheel with hands planted FIRMLY at 10 and 2. That's one of my nightmares, that I'll turn into one of THEM.

re: #344 darthstar

Something different, she said...

hehe. Not quite that different.

350 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:24:25am

re: #342 sattv4u2

blue!?!?!

(duckin')

Oh, and yeah - you'd better duck!

351 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:24:41am

re: #346 ElCapitanAmerica

Have you guys noticed all these blog comments all over the place trying to explain how Sarah Palin was right about Paul Revere??? It's quite amazing!

And of course, our good friend, the renown American historian and scholar Jim dim Hoft is now an expert;

"MEDIA CAUGHT IN ANOTHER SMEAR… Palin Did Not Misspeak on Paul Revere"
[Link: gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com...]

hack, hack, hack, [cough]

352 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:27:33am

I just realized why having SarahPac pay for her family vacation is a valid use of the donations her group collects. Technically, a bus/RV does not violate the use of camping funds. Almost makes me want to start my own PAC.

353 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:28:31am

Media smeared Palin?
But, Weiner not smeared.

What a facking partisan moron.

354 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:30:25am

re: #352 darthstar

I just realized why having SarahPac pay for her family vacation is a valid use of the donations her group collects. Technically, a bus/RV does not violate the use of campaign funds. Almost makes me want to start my own PAC.

PIYF

355 ElCapitanAmerica  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:32:02am

"Governor Palin Gives the Media a History Lesson on Paul Revere’s Midnight Ride"
[Link: conservatives4palin.com...]

She's not only right, she's a historian!

356 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:32:06am

re: #346 ElCapitanAmerica

Have you guys noticed all these blog comments all over the place trying to explain how Sarah Palin was right about Paul Revere??? It's quite amazing!

And of course, our good friend, the renown American historian and scholar Jim dim Hoft is now an expert;

"MEDIA CAUGHT IN ANOTHER SMEAR… Palin Did Not Misspeak on Paul Revere"
[Link: gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com...]

Unbelievable.

357 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:32:38am

re: #346 ElCapitanAmerica

Have you guys noticed all these blog comments all over the place trying to explain how Sarah Palin was right about Paul Revere??? It's quite amazing!

And of course, our good friend, the renown American historian and scholar Jim dim Hoft is now an expert;

"MEDIA CAUGHT IN ANOTHER SMEAR… Palin Did Not Misspeak on Paul Revere"
[Link: gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com...]

So does these idiots purport that Palin knew the 'correct' history instead of mangling the popular historical narrative that everyone else believed?

358 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:33:29am

re: #355 ElCapitanAmerica

"Governor Palin Gives the Media a History Lesson on Paul Revere’s Midnight Ride"
[Link: conservatives4palin.com...]

She's not only right, she's a historian!

First comment, "nice try, but you're polishing a turd."

359 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:34:10am

re: #354 Dark_Falcon

PIYF

No, no, see? All these people are giving her camping money, not campaign money...if it was campaign money then she'd be guilty of misusing that money to provide a vacation for her parents and kids. It's all just a misunderstanding.

360 ElCapitanAmerica  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:35:54am

re: #357 BigPapa

So does these idiots purport that Palin knew the 'correct' history instead of mangling the popular historical narrative that everyone else believed?

That's exactly the point they're making ...

361 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:36:50am

re: #358 Stanley Sea

First comment, "nice try, but you're polishing a turd."

That Poster should remember The Wire. "Shining shit and calling it gold" is a politician's stock-in-trade.

362 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:37:02am

re: #360 ElCapitanAmerica

That's exactly the point they're making ...

Still waiting for the part where he was ringin' those bells.

363 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:37:37am

re: #360 ElCapitanAmerica

That's exactly the point they're making ...

Yeah, riiiiight.. LOL. I got a Commy Lookout tower in Alaska to sell you.

364 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:37:53am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

That Poster should remember The Wire. "Shining shit and calling it gold" is a politician's stock-in-trade.

Sheeeit

365 darthstar  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:40:02am

re: #362 JasonA

Still waiting for the part where he was ringin' those bells.

Youtube Video
366 ElCapitanAmerica  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:41:29am

"Does It Ever Cross Their Mind That Sarah Palin Might Actually Know Something?!"
[Link: patterico.com...]

"So Now All These People Will Apologize to Sarah Palin About Paul Revere, Right?"
[Link: legalinsurrection.blogspot.com...]

This account in "Paul Revere's Ride" by David Hackett Fischer (Oxford University Press 1994), may be of interest to Think Progress and all the others laughing because they purport to be so much better informed than Palin:
"A townsman remembered that 'repeated gunshots, the beating of drums and the ringing of bells filled the air.'.... Along the North Shore of Massachusetts, church bells began to toll and the heavy beat of drums could be heard for many miles in the night air."

367 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:45:14am

re: #366 ElCapitanAmerica

"Does It Ever Cross Their Mind That Sarah Palin Might Actually Know Something?!"
[Link: patterico.com...]

"So Now All These People Will Apologize to Sarah Palin About Paul Revere, Right?"
[Link: legalinsurrection.blogspot.com...]

Best comment:

Warned the British….”by ringing those bells” ? When you put history in a blender, some of the phrases you use might even come out right.

368 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:47:23am

re: #364 JasonA

Sheeeit

I've been saving this story:

U.S. attorney general wants more 'Wire'

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder is a die-hard fan of the HBO series "The Wire," a Dickensian drama about cops, drug gangs, crime and political and union corruption in Baltimore. Fervently praised by critics, "The Wire" attracted a large audience for five seasons before wrapping in 2008.

"I want to speak directly to (creators) Mr. (Ed) Burns and Mr. (David) Simon, do another season of 'The Wire.' ... I want another season, or a movie," Holder said, according to The Washington Examiner.

"I have a lot of power," he joked.

369 Alexzander  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:48:26am

I just started watching season 4 of The Wire this week...

370 The Left  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:50:14am

re: #369 Alexzander

I just started watching season 4 of The Wire this week...

I think season 4 is my fave one.

Jimmah and I are currently watching season 2 for the second time. What a great show.

371 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:50:36am

re: #366 ElCapitanAmerica

"Does It Ever Cross Their Mind That Sarah Palin Might Actually Know Something?!"
[Link: patterico.com...]

"So Now All These People Will Apologize to Sarah Palin About Paul Revere, Right?"
[Link: legalinsurrection.blogspot.com...]

It's one of the most pathetic right wing spectacles I've seen yet. They're actually trying to spin away Palin's moronic Paul Revere comments.

This shows that there's absolutely nothing they won't try to make excuses for -- but I already knew that, when I saw right wingers making excuses for blatantly racist images of Obama.

372 The Left  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:51:19am

re: #364 JasonA

Sheeeit

Youtube Video
373 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:51:24am

re: #367 JasonA

Best comment:

Well, the militia initially forming up in ranks to face the British did play right into the redcoats strength. Patriot militia, through the Revolutionary War, were seldom capable of facing British regulars in the open field (those few that could were the most experienced and best equipped, mostly those with previous service in the Continental Army). They had much better luck sniping at the British troop column as it marched back to Boston.

374 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:52:55am

re: #370 iceweasel

I think season 4 is my fave one.

Jimmah and I are currently watching season 2 for the second time. What a great show.

True that. Best "cop show" ever, though its much more than that.

375 The Left  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:57:08am

re: #374 Dark_Falcon

True that. Best "cop show" ever, though its much more than that.

Agreed.

How's it going, DF? Good to see you!

376 Tumulus11  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:58:10am

. A senior Al Qaeda figure who planned 2008's Mumbai massacre won't sit under the apple tree with anyone else, as U.S. officials thumb through Bin Laden's rolodex.

'The Pakistani official also said [Ilyas] Kashmiri was among nine militants killed in the strike. He spoke on condition of anonymity in line with his agency's policy. On Friday night, officials said several missiles hit a compound. The official Saturday said the men were meeting in an apple orchard near the house when the missiles hit.'
// AP

377 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:00:19am

re: #375 iceweasel

Agreed.

How's it going, DF? Good to see you!

Somethings go well. I got my first sale of this month yesterday. That's good but the fact that it and one other did not pay last month leaves me doing extra work to make ends meet again. Still, I got enough sales to pay my bills and the extra work is just for day-to-expenses. So things are going decently.

378 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:00:49am

re: #370 iceweasel

I think season 4 is my fave one.

Jimmah and I are currently watching season 2 for the second time. What a great show.

Season 3 was my favorite. I loved how they show made the viewer ask questions, as opposed to just giving them answers. Was Hamsterdam a good idea? It's kind of up to you.

Time for me to run. Ciao, Lizards.

379 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:01:54am

re: #376 Tumulus11

. A senior Al Qaeda figure who planned 2008's Mumbai massacre won't sit under the apple tree with anyone else, as U.S. officials thumb through Bin Laden's rolodex.

Roasted terrorist in applesauce. Yum, yum.

/Must I?

380 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:03:59am

CNN on the Weiner story:

TRENDING: House Democratic leadership privately push Weiner

Washington (CNN) - Members of the House Democratic leadership have talked repeatedly to Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-New York, to try to get him to end what several Democrats call an unwelcome political distraction, a member of the party's leadership tells CNN.

"It's frustrating because we'll talk to him, and say clean it up, and then he goes out and does stuff," said the member of the House Democratic leadership, who declined to speak for the record about private discussions with Weiner.

"He's got to put the period at the end of the sentence," said the Democratic source, "it's painful."

On Thursday, Maryland Rep. Steny Hoyer, the number two Democrat in the House, was less blunt, but told CNN he had spoken to Weiner.

"I told him that he needs to handle this and he needed to give the facts accurately to the public," Hoyer said.

Weiner initially released two written statements saying he was the victim of a hacker and a prank, when a photograph of a man in bulging underwear was sent on his Twitter account.

He then refused to answer questions in a testy press conference about whether the photo was him, and why he hadn't asked law enforcement to investigate. The following day, in a series of interviews, he said he couldn't say with "certitude" if the photograph was of him.

"We'd like him to speak clearly to clear it up or quit talking about it if it's not going to solve anything," said the House Democratic leadership member who said he and others spoke to Weiner.

Do bear in mind the writer is Dana Bash, who is not a wingnut.

381 ElCapitanAmerica  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:04:39am

Well, there is some hope I guess, even in the hotair comments it seems people have not all gone completely insane;

[Link: hotair.com...]


How’s that crow taste (see above).

Pattosensei on June 3, 2011 at 9:24 AM

“see above” is NOT what Sarah said. See below for what she REALLY said and the context in which she said it……

Transcript of Sarah’s comment on the midnight ride of Paul Revere….

“He who warned, uh, the, the British…..”

WTH? He didn’t warn the British. He was warning the patriots.

Okay, no big deal. Lets move on….

“…that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms….”

No, he was warning that the British were on the move. His main goal was to warn Adams and Hancock.

I guess all that matters is the perception, not the truth. Moving on….


“…by ringing those bells and um making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells….”

Revere’s ride was over before the warning shots and bells were happening.

The rest is simply the fluff she injects into all her comments. They are cool comments, but are flavorless because she uses them as filler.

csdeven on June 3, 2011 at 9:44 AM

382 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:05:02am

re: #376 Tumulus11
He should meet this guy. [Link: news.yahoo.com...]

383 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:09:43am

re: #381 ElCapitanAmerica

Well, there is some hope I guess, even in the hotair comments it seems people have not all gone completely insane;

[Link: hotair.com...]

That's a pretty good smackdown. Sadly, i assume the writer was pounced on at once as a "RINO".

384 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:21:05am

I will be back a little later today. :)

385 charlz  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:21:12am

re: #374 Dark_Falcon

True that. Best "cop show" ever, though its much more than that.

Simon's _Treme_ has been outstanding this year as well. LOVE the music!

386 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:28:22am

re: #373 Dark_Falcon

Well, the militia initially forming up in ranks to face the British did play right into the redcoats strength. Patriot militia, through the Revolutionary War, were seldom capable of facing British regulars in the open field (those few that could were the most experienced and best equipped, mostly those with previous service in the Continental Army). They had much better luck sniping at the British troop column as it marched back to Boston.

The whole militia concept, that we could do without a standing Army and defend our nation simply with freemen grabbing a rifle off the wall and marching to the enemy, was a conspicuous failure. It got lots of men slaughtered in the Revolution, 1812, during various engagements of the early Indian Wars (those east of the Mississippi) and during the early part of the Civil War. The myth of the brave minutemen remains strong in certain quarters (see the "Appleseed" rife trainings) but it is myth nonetheless. The volunteers of the Civil War began the process of change from Militia to the modern National Guard because they were given at least some real training before being fed into the meat grinder. This was the model followed by the conscript armies of the US from WWI through Vietnam and, while decidely mixed, the results were still superior to those of the militias.

The only real impact the militia has anymore is that the 2nd Amendment was written around that mythos and there are a whole lot of people who thing they can defend themselves against the government with man portable arms or that the idea of a well regulated militia includes the carrying of concealed weapons (the founding fathers would have only expected criminals to do that).


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