Host of Conference Feat. Cruz, Huckabee & Jindal Says He'd "Spread Cow Manure All Over" His Body

Host of Conference Feat. Cruz, Huckabee & Jindal Says He’d “Spread Cow Manure All Over” His Body

Totally insane

PoliticsNovember 2015 • Views: 54,921

So, this weekend Republican presidential candidates Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee and Bobby Jindal all spoke at the National Religious Liberties Conference in Colorado, hosted by a radical right wing pastor who thinks gays should be executed — after they have a chance to repent, that is.

Pastor Kevin Swanson followed the GOP candidates with a speech in which he said that if his own son ever got married to another man, he’d show up at the wedding in “sackcloth and ashes” and smear cow manure all over his body on the steps of the church.

And Swanson reiterated his belief that God wants gay people to be executed.

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Republican presidential candidates are courting people who think like this, folks.

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496 comments

Reality Based Steve Nov 8, 2015 • 8:36:45pm

And they (the GOP Candidates) manage to claim that THEY are the ones being unfairly attacked when the views of the people they associate with and are endorsed by are rightly brought to light.

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Kragar Nov 8, 2015 • 8:42:53pm

People like Kevin Swanson make me wonder when they’re going to get around to opening up those FEMA camps.

Single-handed sailor Nov 8, 2015 • 8:46:05pm

Now that’s a strange fetish. I just can’t understand that.

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 8, 2015 • 8:52:04pm

he’d show up at the wedding in “sackcloth and ashes” and smear cow manure all over his body on the steps of the church

Kevin Swanson is getting all medieval on us.

Though I doubt he would actually do it.

meteor Nov 8, 2015 • 8:53:50pm

He had a long time to think about that.

Freak.

Kragar Nov 8, 2015 • 8:54:12pm

re: #5 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

“There are families, we’re talking Christian families, pastors’ families, elders’ families from good, godly churches,” Swanson said, “whose sons are rebelling, hanging out with homosexuals and getting married and the parents are invited. What would you do if that was the case? Here is what I would do: sackcloth and ashes at the entrance to the church and I’d sit in cow manure and I’d spread it all over my body. That is what I would do and I’m not kidding, I’m not laughing.”

One, I doubt his kid would invite the son of a bitch.

Two, the cops would likely hit him with a firehouse before dragging him off the the church steps.

Kragar Nov 8, 2015 • 8:55:45pm

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Kragar Nov 8, 2015 • 9:02:07pm

GOP women’s group leader: ‘Male violence against women’ is really the fault of ‘oversexualized’ girls https://t.co/wxM89GtRYs

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 9, 2015

It boggles the mind that any human capable of processing oxygen would even consider the GOP a viable political party

Kragar Nov 8, 2015 • 9:12:45pm

Woot!

Fallout 4 unlocks tomorrow at 12 EST, which means this time tomorrow, I’ll be complaining why the final download and installation isn’t working!

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 8, 2015 • 9:16:18pm

re: #9 Kragar

It boggles the mind that any human capable of processing oxygen would even consider the GOP a viable political party

Exactly the type of thinking that exists among very conservative South Asians (India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.) and Arabs. That’s the excuse the men give for assaulting and raping girls and women in their areas. “She was out walking alone.” “I saw her face.” “She looked at me.” “Respectable girls stay at home, or only go out with a male relative.”

Reality Based Steve Nov 8, 2015 • 9:17:26pm

re: #10 Kragar

Woot!

Fallout 4 unlocks tomorrow at 12 EST, which means this time tomorrow, I’ll be complaining why the final download and installation isn’t working!

You have to install the service pack prior to installing the product. ///

RBS

Kragar Nov 8, 2015 • 9:20:35pm

re: #12 Reality Based Steve

You have to install the service pack prior to installing the product. ///

RBS

Currently listed as “Preload Complete - Unreleased”

Usually, they leave a small patch to be downloaded once its officially released to finalized the install and run the game, then you’ve got to mess with any install bugs and get it up and running.

If I can at least get thru that so I can play Tuesday, I’ll be happy.

Pawn of the Oppressor Nov 8, 2015 • 9:25:13pm

He seems nice.

I don’t understand what has to happen to a person growing up, that they become grown adults who obsess over other where other people put their penises in their spare time.

Reality Based Steve Nov 8, 2015 • 9:26:59pm

re: #13 Kragar

Currently listed as “Preload Complete - Unreleased”

Usually, they leave a small patch to be downloaded once its officially released to finalized the install and run the game, then you’ve got to mess with any install bugs and get it up and running.

If I can at least get thru that so I can play Tuesday, I’ll be happy.

It was kind of a standing joke where I worked (we were setting up servers every week for class) that sooner or latter MS would have a product that needed to have the patches installed first before the product. (Seems like one of the versions of Sharepoint Server came pretty damn close)

RBS

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 8, 2015 • 9:32:53pm

re: #14 Pawn of the Oppressor

He seems nice.

/

I don’t understand what has to happen to a person growing up, that they become grown adults who obsess over other where other people put their penises in their spare time.

My suspicion is either Swanson’s own personal attraction to boys or men, or a childhood incident with another boy or man. That kind of gut-level revulsion has to come from some serious emotional trauma.

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Reality Based Steve Nov 8, 2015 • 9:55:34pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

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whitebeach Nov 8, 2015 • 10:05:15pm

You left out:

The Little Bummer Goy

Kragar Nov 8, 2015 • 10:07:49pm

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sagehen Nov 8, 2015 • 10:13:54pm

re: #20 Kragar

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But you’re not counting the minutes or anything like that. You’re not taking the day off work and clearing your schedule and having 3 days of prepared meals delivered that all you’ll have to do is reheat them. You’re not doing that. Not at all.

goddamnedfrank Nov 8, 2015 • 10:15:26pm

“Here is what I would do: sackcloth and ashes at the entrance to the church and I’d sit in cow manure and I’d spread it all over my body. That is what I would do and I’m not kidding, I’m not laughing.”

Kragar Nov 8, 2015 • 10:16:27pm

re: #22 sagehen

But you’re not counting the minutes or anything like that. You’re not taking the day off work and clearing your schedule and having 3 days of prepared meals delivered that all you’ll have to do is reheat them. You’re not doing that. Not at all.

Hell no.

I’m only taking one day off… and then we’ve got Wednesday off because of Veteran’s day.

Blind Frog Belly White Nov 8, 2015 • 10:19:30pm

re: #22 sagehen

But you’re not counting the minutes or anything like that. You’re not taking the day off work and clearing your schedule and having 3 days of prepared meals delivered that all you’ll have to do is reheat them. You’re not doing that. Not at all.

“MOM! WE NEED MORE HOT POCKETS!!”

The Ghost of a Flea Nov 8, 2015 • 10:22:09pm

re: #16 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My suspicion is either Swanson’s own personal attraction to boys or men, or a childhood incident with another boy or man. That kind of gut-level revulsion has to come from some serious emotional trauma.

No.

Violent homophobia is a learned, enculturated behavior set that’s basically part of “performing” the role of masculinity. People can be revolted by their abstract notion of what gay sex is without any personal experience or inclination…indeed, in their studied ignorance, their imagining is so distant from the actual thing it might as well be The Bogeyman. It comes down to cultural constructs of how and who to be: we’re used to a society in which most people are free to self-define their self-expression, but religious and social conservatives idealize societies—past, or imagined—in which sex was not private, but structured by family (through marriage arrangement) and community (through explicit and implicit penalties for sex outside of norms).

And quite often homophobic inclinations map to an understanding of sex as an act not between equals, but of domination—you’re a fucker or the fucked—because the genders are deemed unequal, even in the most intimate moment between a man and a woman. To be blunt—the assumption is that being penetrated is a submission of power. Fear of gay sex is fear of male and female sexual norms—who fucks, who is fucked*—being broken, with he subsequent suggestion of larger societal constructs of who to be and how to behave as “man” and “woman.”

When you look at a Kevin Swanson, or his international market equivalent, you’ll find that abhorrence of gay sex goes hand in hand with abhorrence of sex outside of the framework of male-female gender roles where the man wants and pursues sex, and the woman stays “pure” by deflecting men until marriage…at which point, sex is about husband-wife dynamics that the larger community referees**. Same sex relationships are the ultimate breach of the society-enforced structure of sex and hierarchy.

_{* This is, by the way, how you end up with crazy homophobic societies and individuals that nonetheless indulge in pederasty and punitive rape of men: sex is power, so fucking someone is demonstrating power over them.}

_{**Digression: contempt or mitigation of the idea of consent by outlining gender-appropriate sexual expression dovetails with homophobia as well. Be it conservative Hindus, fundamentalists Muslims, or purity-obsessed wingnuts, the role of woman as sexual goalkeeper is rigged. On the other hand, the role of man as incontinent sex seeker mitigates “wrong” sex, be it with a woman, man, or sheep. Basically, a dude’s shame can be written off, whereas the failure to be a “pure” woman carries deeper social shame.}

The Ghost of a Flea Nov 8, 2015 • 10:25:48pm

re: #20 Kragar

SHINY

WANT

OOOOOOOOOO

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 8, 2015 • 10:31:20pm

re: #26 The Ghost of a Flea

OK, I’ll defer to your comments, but I still suspect Swanson has some history that has colored his reaction to gays and SSM.

I note that he, like many of his ilk, mentions nothing about lesbians. They only seem to focus on male-male sex, so that’s evidence for your take on the subject.

Disgracing your child on their wedding day is horrifying enough as it is.

Reality Based Steve Nov 8, 2015 • 10:48:16pm

Well I’m off to bed. I think that I’m finally over the low-grade bug I’ve been fighting that has just left me wore out in the evenings.

See ya all later.

RBS

Nyet Nov 8, 2015 • 11:05:46pm

Well, somebody has to say it:

I call bullshit.

teleskiguy Nov 8, 2015 • 11:06:43pm

re: #30 Nyet

Well, somebody has to say it:

I call bullshit.

Kragar Nov 8, 2015 • 11:09:05pm

re: #30 Nyet

Well, somebody has to say it:

I call bullshit.

goddamnedfrank Nov 8, 2015 • 11:09:11pm

re: #28 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

OK, I’ll defer to your comments, but I still suspect Swanson has some history that has colored his reaction to gays and SSM.

Homophobic men who self identify as straight are more likely to get physically aroused than non-homophobic straight men when shown gay sex scenes.

One study asked heterosexal men how comfortable and anxious they are around gay men. Based on these scores, they then divided these men into two groups: men that are homophobic, and men who are not. These men were then shown three, four-minute videos. One video depicted straight sex, one depicted lesbian sex and one depicted gay male sex. While this was happening, a device was attached to each participant’s penis. This device (link is external) has been found to be triggered by sexual arousal, but not other types of arousal (such as nervousness, or fear - arousal often has a very different meaning in psychology than in popular usage).

When viewing lesbian sex and straight sex, both the homophobic and the non-homophobic men showed increased penis circumference. For gay male sex, however, only the homophobic men showed heightened penis arousal.

That doesn’t make denial of attraction the primary cause of homophobia of course, neither does it explore the impetus of that denial.

I personally feel like we can put a lot of the blame on misogyny, and like Ghost said at a threat that is perceived when people don’t conform to gender norms. This is why effeminate gay men have been treated worse than butch gay men going back to ancient Rome, and to a degree explains why “butch” lesbians are treated worse than “lipstick” lesbians. Of course butch lesbians and more effeminate gay men are also easier to identify as being different from the norm, but I don’t think this entirely explains away the role gender norms play in violent homophobia.

This model predicts that the degree to which a person’s sexual persona deviates from the accepted sexual order and hierarchy determines the the degree of derogation heaped upon them, which conforms at least to my observations. Gay tops tend to be seen as deviant but still manly, and therefore due some small modicum of respect as long as they aren’t perceived as an immediate threat, meaning as long as the “straight” male homophobe doesn’t fear the gay man will treat the homophobe the way the homophobe treats women. Lesbians on the other hand are subject to overt threats of rape and violence for the crime of not being available for the sexual use of men.

So why are homophobic men then more likely to be aroused by gay porn? Part of it is almost certainly denial, but an equal part is probably do to fixation on the perceived power of the penetrative act. They still get aroused by lesbian porn because they see women’s bodies as something to be possessed, something they’d like to have power over, but unlike straight guys they also get turned on by gay porn through that same fixation on sexual power.

The Ghost of a Flea Nov 8, 2015 • 11:17:19pm

re: #30 Nyet

I love this gif.

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Shiplord Kirel Nov 9, 2015 • 3:20:35am

……and smear cow manure all over his body on the steps of the church.

There you have it, straight from the horse’s………..mouth.

Bird in the Paw Nov 9, 2015 • 3:52:47am

re: #20 Kragar

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Video

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 4:35:32am

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

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NO Christmas Tree
O Come let us ignore him
White ~~Christmas~~ Holiday
I’ll be home for Kwanzaa
O Boring Night
Happy War (Xmas is over)
Have yourself a normal little Wednesday
Dragons we have heard while high
Grandma got run over by a Buick
Please come home for New Year’s

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Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 4:37:44am

These people need serious mental help.

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sagehen Nov 9, 2015 • 5:03:36am

re: #42 The Vicious Babushka

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That’s Hedley!!

nkdee Nov 9, 2015 • 5:05:42am

Oh goodness, they are much more serious than ” I will spread cow poop all over myself” haters. Swanson and his partners in this “conference” want to put unrepentant gays to death. Yep….”Kill the gays”! And we have GOTP Presidential contenders giving them validity by speaking at the hatefest….er, “conference”.

WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 5:06:29am

re: #14 Pawn of the Oppressor

He seems nice.

/

I don’t understand what has to happen to a person growing up, that they become grown adults who obsess over other where other people put their penises in their spare time.

I was originally going to say that to have this level of hate in them, I think they’d have to have a very personal reason for that hatred (meaning they are closeted and hate themselves). But then I thought of The Other and how people (mostly conservatives) hate anything they consider Other based on fear.

People like this guy are all about fear and loathing.

JDRhoades Nov 9, 2015 • 5:06:59am

And soon the very people for whom Obama’s pastor was the disqualifying issue du jour will be complaining bitterly about the “hateful libs” bringing this up.

wrenchwench Nov 9, 2015 • 5:18:43am

Looks like Swanson has one son and 4 daughters. Yet his big worry is that one son. And the manure is specified to be from a female bovine. What’s up with that? Most people think of male bovine excrement when they think of something they disagree with. I think he wants to dominate the manure.

Apologies for the huge photo at the link

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 9, 2015 • 5:20:38am

re: #40 The Vicious Babushka

Chinese Food heating in the Microwave

We Dim Sum of Orient Are

WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 5:28:36am

re: #20 Kragar

This game will unlock in approximately 23 hours…

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Video

I haven’t played a computer game in…forever, but I was so intrigued by the Fallout 4 trailer I want to try it, so before coughing up $60 for a game I have no idea if I will like (or, as with my previous gaming experience, I will die within the first 30 seconds), I went to eBay and bought Fallout 3 for $10.

What are the odds I won’t die straight away?

b.d. Nov 9, 2015 • 5:37:11am

re: #42 The Vicious Babushka

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Excellent!

Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 5:41:58am

re: #49 WhatEVs

I haven’t played a computer game in…forever, but I was so intrigued by the Fallout 4 trailer I want to try it, so before coughing up $60 for a game I have no idea if I will like (or, as with my previous gaming experience, I will die within the first 30 seconds), I went to eBay and bought Fallout 3 for $10.

What are the odds I won’t die straight away?

Just stay away from deathclaws and you’ll be fine. Ish.

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 5:44:13am

re: #51 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Just stay away from deathclaws and you’ll be fine. Ish.

Awesome! Now I know who I can go to when I repeatedly kill myself. Thanks! :-D

Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 5:45:27am

re: #53 WhatEVs

Awesome! Now I know who I can go to when I repeatedly kill myself. Thanks! :-D

Also, don’t shoot cars close to you. They explode. Violently. Being nuclear powered and all.
That kills me all the time.
;)

Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 5:48:10am

re: #53 WhatEVs

Awesome! Now I know who I can go to when I repeatedly kill myself. Thanks! :-D

Target, Kragar and a few others here can help too.
:)

Romantic Heretic Nov 9, 2015 • 5:49:59am

re: #7 Kragar

One, I doubt his kid would invite the son of a bitch.

Two, the cops would likely hit him with a firehouse before dragging him off the the church steps.

I can’t wait for the video to hit YouTube.

Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 5:51:12am

All he wants is a hug!
Image: Deathclaw.png

lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 5:53:35am

What color is the sky in their universe?

Yup. Media scrutinize GOP with passion. Scrutinize Dems with grudging sense of duty, it at all. Big difference. https://t.co/c7mG4nOcjZ

— Jonah Goldberg (@JonahNRO) November 9, 2015

These same nitwits will claim Obama wasn’t vetted, despite hundreds of articles in MSM outlets questioning various aspects of Obama’s past. They’re still recycling the same baffling bs conspiracies too (because creating new ones is apparently too hard), and using that to give cover to Ben Carson, whose statements regarding West Point admittance, let alone whether he was somehow at the scene of a robbery, or that he attempted to get thuggish with his mom, are the least offensive things Carson has said on the campaign trail (or at any time at that).

Carson’s repeatedly shown that he has no understanding of how the economy works, how the US government operates, how budgets are put together, and would blow up the deficit with an even more insane budget plan that would saddle future generations with trillions in debt all to give the rich tax breaks.

Yeah, I’d gotta say that the sky in their universe is green - with greed.

Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 5:55:05am

This is a godsend against deathclaws. They are faster than you, hit them with this and they aren’t.
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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 5:57:59am

re: #58 lawhawk

What color is the sky in their universe?

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These same nitwits will claim Obama wasn’t vetted, despite hundreds of articles in MSM outlets questioning various aspects of Obama’s past. They’re still recycling the same baffling bs conspiracies too (because creating new ones is apparently too hard), and using that to give cover to Ben Carson, whose statements regarding West Point admittance, let alone whether he was somehow at the scene of a robbery, or that he attempted to get thuggish with his mom, are the least offensive things Carson has said on the campaign trail (or at any time at that).

Carson’s repeatedly shown that he has no understanding of how the economy works, how the US government operates, how budgets are put together, and would blow up the deficit with an even more insane budget plan that would saddle future generations with trillions in debt all to give the rich tax breaks.

Yeah, I’d gotta say that the sky in their universe is green - with greed.

This tired crap again? Then again it’s by a delusional fool who thinks liberalism and fascism are related ideologies ev n though conservatives were strong supporters of Mussolini, Franco, and yes even Hitler.

HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 5:59:16am

I just wonder how anyone with even somewhat of a brain attends these conferences and doesn’t go nuts from all the derp that evangelical theocratic fascists push. Even if you believe that shit, Jesus.

ComradeDread Nov 9, 2015 • 5:59:18am

An overwhelming concern with personal ‘purity’, denunciation and hatred of ‘sinners’, a desire for political control…

American Evangelical Christianity has much more in common with the Pharisees of the Gospel stories (and Acts) than it does with Jesus or the early Christians.

I’d appreciate the irony, but it is lost when such lunatics are taken seriously by one-half of our political structure.

sagehen Nov 9, 2015 • 6:01:25am

re: #58 lawhawk

What color is the sky in their universe?

Yeah, I’d gotta say that the sky in their universe is green - with greed.

Hugh Hewitt was on Morning Joe today whining about how the media doesn’t investigate Hillary. At All. They just never look into anything about her. Why does she get a free pass?

Joe’s usually pretty sympathetic to RWNJs, but even couldn’t take this load of crap.

Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 6:02:08am

The lizard should have watched where it was walking…

Complete Fossil of 23 Million-Year-Old Lizard in Amber Resin Found by Mexican Researchers

(Photo: Wikimedia Commons)

Read more: universityherald.com

Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 6:02:52am

Most amusing since the only reason the email and Benghazi nonsense hasn’t faded is because of the media.
Give me a break, GOP.

Smith25's Liberal Thighs Nov 9, 2015 • 6:03:41am

There is no reason to be mad about the Starbucks red cups except that IT’S NOT EVEN THANKSGIVING YET.
— Jenny Jaffe (@jennyjaffe) November 8, 2015

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 9, 2015 • 6:06:54am

re: #58 lawhawk

The sky in their earth is always gray, dark and gloomy. Imaginary enemies —and there are many — are always threatening them from within and without. These enemies speak in strange tongues, wear strange clothes, and have skin of varying shades. Some enemies use secret incantations called “facts,” which they hurl at the dwellers of this gray world in an effort to influence them. There is no joy or humor on this world. Their leaders only talk of doom and gloom, and speak in alarming tones of an evil demi-god called Obummer, who seeks to crush them and their kind, and his associate, a trickster demi-goddess only known as Killary — perhaps an analog of the Hindu Kali.

Avoid visiting this world at all costs. Dante’s Inferno was a vacation paradise by comparison.

lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 6:06:58am

And then there’s the whole war on Christmas nonsense. It’s starting earlier and earlier (as some outlets and vendors were already putting up Christmas decorations/sales even as Labor Day was upon us, and now Starbucks decided to go to war with a red cup, instead of a cup adorned with pagan symbols. Then, Roosevelt Field Mall, which is one of the nation’s biggest malls (and one of Simon Properties’ biggest malls), decided to put together a Santa/Christmas experience that didn’t include any Christmas trees (going with a sleek modernist white thing, that may be a play on the whole Frozen thing)

Cue outrageous outrage.

Nordstroms, however, has decided that they’re going to celebrate one holiday at a time, and wont put up Christmas decorations until Thanksgiving.

The idiocy over all this is deafening.

There is no war. There never was. Christmas is all over, even though few actually believe/understand the meaning/purpose of the holiday. Decorations? That’s not the holiday.

And it shouldn’t take a lonely Jew (on Christmas) to remind folks of that. Conspicuous spending isn’t what the holiday is about, though that’s what it has come to mean especially here in the US where vendors make most of their money during the holiday season. Chasing money is what businesses are trying to do, and that’s why they’re pushing the boundaries of the holiday season. First it was Black Friday, then it’s trying to get retailers to open on Thanksgiving night (and now during the day, even as there’s some pushback), but we’re even seeing Black Friday sales occurring weeks before Thanksgiving.

The entirety of the fall is now a blur of claiming big sales to get people into stores. And the Christmas decorations go up earlier and earlier. You’re not even celebrating Halloween until October 31 anymore as Christmas decorations go up before that. Thanksgiving/fall decorations? They’ve been nixed. Instead of enjoying each holiday in turn, it’s all about Christmas (all the time).

So, if some people want to boycott Roosevelt Field, by all means. It’ll just mean those that want to shop there will have one less idiot to contend with when trying to find a parking space or grab that latest must-have toy. Because that’s what the holiday season is really about.

Romantic Heretic Nov 9, 2015 • 6:07:22am

re: #10 Kragar

War Thunder just had a major update, and the Mac version of it doesn’t want to download plus, according to what I’ve been reading, if it does download the game takes a huge performance hit on Macs.

I think I’ll wait a month or so before trying again.

Is it just me or have game developers gotten really lazy these days? Or maybe it’s just the pressure to get things out the door so that money can be made?

Dr. Matt Nov 9, 2015 • 6:07:41am

re: #66 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Fox Host: “The War On Christmas [Is] Off To An Early Start” On Starbucks’ Coffee Cups #derp https://t.co/75VksaxpwQ

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) November 9, 2015

HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:09:11am

re: #70 Dr. Matt

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Said it already but if your holiday cheer is threatened by a coffee mug color, you’re doing it all wrong. I swear wingers aren’t happy unless something is outraging their sorry asses.

Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 6:09:53am

Christmas starts in freaking October.
What more does it want?!?!

Belafon Nov 9, 2015 • 6:09:58am

re: #68 lawhawk

And it shouldn’t take a lonely Jew (on Christmas) to remind folks of that.

They’ve been fighting against the teachings of a particular Jew ever since they decided his cross was a sword.

HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:10:09am

Hell wonder what Fox would say to the Puritans who didn’t celebrate Christmas at all.

Dr. Matt Nov 9, 2015 • 6:10:24am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

Said it already but if your holiday cheer is threatened by a coffee mug color, you’re doing it all wrong. I swear wingers aren’t happy unless something is outraging their sorry asses.

In summation, Politically Correct conservatives are shitting themselves in faux outrage because Starbucks is using red cups during the Holidays. SMH

WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 6:10:35am

re: #59 Not a Sparkly Vampire

This is a godsend against deathclaws. They are faster than you, hit them with this and they aren’t.
fallout.wikia.com

Man, assuming I don’t die within 30 seconds, this looks cool a hell. Thanks for that!

HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:11:30am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

In summation, Politically Correct conservatives are shitting themselves in faux outrage because Starbucks is using red cups during the Holidays. SMH

Yeah I don’t get that at all. So stupid but that’s conservatism 101. And

WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 6:11:35am

re: #60 HappyWarrior

This tired crap again? Then again it’s by a delusional fool who thinks liberalism and fascism are related ideologies ev n though conservatives were strong supporters of Mussolini, Franco, and yes even Hitler.

They’re not delusional at all. They are liars. Coordinated talking point liars. And these talking heads know they are liars. They are lying to their any-lie-will-do base.

Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 6:11:54am

re: #76 WhatEVs

Man, assuming I don’t die within 30 seconds, this looks cool a hell. Thanks for that!

It’s not so bad. Most critters you’ll do fine against. The ones you won’t are limited to certain areas.

HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:12:00am

re: #78 WhatEVs

They’re not delusional at all. They are liars. Coordinated talking point liars. And these talking heads know they are liars. They are lying to their any-lie-will-do base.

True that.

lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 6:12:16am

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

Tis the season to bitch about insufficient use of pagan symbols in Christmas decorations before Thanksgiving. #ROOSEVELTFIELDMALL

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 9, 2015

HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:12:56am

How fucked up is your existence if you’re reduced to complaining about the color of a coffee cup?

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 9, 2015 • 6:13:10am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

In summation, Politically Correct conservatives are shitting themselves in faux outrage because Starbucks is using red cups during the Holidays. SMH

What’s their beef? Red and green have been Christmas colors since the Middle Ages (holly and ivy).

HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:13:43am

re: #81 lawhawk

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Next they’ll bitch about the lack of Christmas decorations on Labor Day.

The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 6:13:48am

Welp I have a Rand Paul fan in my mentions. I’ll have a conversation as long as they’re being polite.

.@Pa4Paul No it’s not entirely true. People work harder but don’t earn more. #tcot #UniteBlue #FeelTheBern pic.twitter.com/GCktWPUj1X

— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) November 9, 2015

HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:14:35am

re: #83 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

What’s their beef? Red and green have been Christmas colors since the Middle Ages (holly and ivy).

Yeah I always associated those colors with Christmas too. That’s part of the reason I’m confused too.

The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 6:14:51am

Rand Paul fan is outraged about this meme:

#RightWingLogic People in #MinimumWage jobs are “lazy” but CEO works hard #tcot #UniteBlue #RandPaul #FeelTheBern pic.twitter.com/LeiXrShN7a

— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) November 9, 2015

Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 6:15:40am

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

If wealth was the inevitable result of hard work and enterprise, every woman in Africa… https://t.co/4kV02MZGzp pic.twitter.com/Q4renwBLch

— IranLawrenceFineArt (@IranLawrence) November 8, 2015

HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:15:48am

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

Welp I have a Rand Paul fan in my mentions. I’ll have a conversation as long as they’re being polite.

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It’s flat out untrue. Surprised you found a polite one though.

WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 6:16:56am

re: #63 sagehen

Hugh Hewitt was on Morning Joe today whining about how the media doesn’t investigate Hillary. At All. They just never look into anything about her. Why does she get a free pass?

Joe’s usually pretty sympathetic to RWNJs, but even couldn’t take this load of crap.

Joe actually pushed back on this garbage? Really?

Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 6:16:58am

The only thing @Starbucks wages war on is a cheap cup of coffee.

— Tom Wellborn (@TLW3) November 9, 2015

HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:17:46am

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yep. I mean I’ll admit it’s not all golf and scotch for wealthy executives but if you seriously think he works that much harder, you’re kidding yourself and have drank koolaid. If anything the poor work harder since they’re trying to go up.

Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 6:18:32am

Wish I could get paid an obscene amount to destroy a profitable enterprise.
/

Romantic Heretic Nov 9, 2015 • 6:18:48am

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

More human sacrifices for the faith known as ‘Murica. Tree of Liberty yadda yadda blood yadda.

Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 6:19:48am

re: #94 Romantic Heretic

More human sacrifices for the faith known as ‘Murica. Tree of Liberty yadda yadda blood yadda.

The tree of liberty must be cut down to make way for fracking operations!

sagehen Nov 9, 2015 • 6:20:05am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

In summation, Politically Correct conservatives are shitting themselves in faux outrage because Starbucks is using red cups during the Holidays. SMH

First World Problems!!

Belafon Nov 9, 2015 • 6:20:13am

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

Saw this stat:

As research by Valerie Wilson of the Economic Policy Institute demonstrates, the real median hourly wage for white men with no more than a high school diploma declined from $19.76 in 1979 to $17.50 in 2014.

Romantic Heretic Nov 9, 2015 • 6:20:35am

re: #49 WhatEVs

Haven’t played Fallout since #1, but I found the Plasma rifles usually reduced Deathblows to soup stock fairly quickly.

Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 6:23:25am

re: #98 Romantic Heretic

Haven’t played Fallout since #1, but I found the Plasma rifles usually reduced Deathblows to soup stock family quickly.

I’m almost always in sneak mode in Bethesda games anyways.
;)

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sizzzzlerz Nov 9, 2015 • 6:23:32am

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

The lizard should have watched where it was walking…

Complete Fossil of 23 Million-Year-Old Lizard in Amber Resin Found by Mexican Researchers

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Read more: universityherald.com

Now, if we could only extract its DNA, implant it in a living creature, we might be able to sell a shit-load of T-shirts and lunch boxes

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 6:23:33am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

In summation, Politically Correct conservatives are shitting themselves in faux outrage because Starbucks is using red cups during the Holidays. SMH

It’s the typical conservatives agitprop. They have to keep conservatives and social-cons outraged 24/7 otherwise they might grow a brain cell or two and escape.

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 6:24:30am

re: #97 Belafon

Saw this stat:

But those moocher college students should work their way through college.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 6:24:34am

@viciousbabushka so you’re telling me that over a career, a drive through clerk works harder than the VP of the company?

— PA For Rand Paul (@Pa4Paul) November 9, 2015

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Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 6:25:21am

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

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*Goal post shift noted*

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 6:26:41am

re: #70 Dr. Matt

Fox Host: “The War On Christmas [Is] Off To An Early Start” On Starbucks’ Coffee Cups

Does anyone else find it ironic that these supposed Christians are upset that we’re not commercializing Christmas earlier every year…that we’re not making it about buying instead of about Christ?

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 6:27:04am

It’s getting angry now.

@viciousbabushka not to mention Bernie Sanders wants to take all the money you do make and give it to jobless bums.

— PA For Rand Paul (@Pa4Paul) November 9, 2015

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 9, 2015 • 6:27:27am

re: #101 Timothy Watson

It’s the typical conservatives agitprop. They have to keep conservatives and social-cons outraged 24/7 otherwise they might grow a brain cell or two and escape.

Starbucks has been bringing out the red cups every November since 1997, and just now the RWNJs have figured it out. Huh?
news.starbucks.com

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 6:27:36am

re: #105 WhatEVs

Does anyone else find it ironic that these supposed Christians are upset that we’re not commercializing Christmas earlier every year…that we’re not making it about buying instead of about Christ?

Everyone knows that capitalism is the real national religion of America.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 6:28:07am

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

It’s getting angry now.

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They can never stay polite for long, can they?

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Romantic Heretic Nov 9, 2015 • 6:29:15am

re: #104 Not a Sparkly Vampire

*Goal post shift noted*

It’s one of the best ways to ‘win’.

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 6:29:30am

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Yeah I always associated those colors with Christmas too. That’s part of the reason I’m confused too.

They want the coffee cup to have Christ on the cross. At this point, ornaments and snowflakes won’t do. Must show the crucifixion or it is an attack on Christianity! Or something.

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 6:29:40am

re: #107 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Starbucks has been bringing out the red cups every November since 1997, and just now the RWNJs have figured it out. Huh?
news.starbucks.com

Conservatives don’t have memories, that allows to not have to deal with the uncertainty that cognitive dissonance would generate in most people.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:30:29am

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

It’s getting angry now.

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Yeah fuck that guy. Fuck calling the unemployed bums.

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Romantic Heretic Nov 9, 2015 • 6:30:32am

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

It’s getting angry now.

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Never takes long, does it?

He should thank you for providing him with this hour’s drug supply.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 9, 2015 • 6:32:45am

re: #111 WhatEVs

They want the coffee cup to have Christ on the cross. At this point, ornaments and snowflakes won’t do. Must show the crucifixion or it is an attack on Christianity! Or something.

I don’t think any of Starbucks cups in the last 18 years have had overtly Christian images on them.
coolhunting.com

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:32:55am

I’m sorry but I’ll admit it. These executives do work hard but if you seriously think that work ethic and your income are directly related, you’re an idiot in so many ways.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:33:35am

re: #115 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I don’t think any of Starbucks cups in the last 18 years have had overtly Christians images on them.
coolhunting.com

It’s almost like they’re seasonal. Outage!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 6:34:48am

Like they would go to Starbucks anyway.
I don’t. Overpriced, bad coffee.
/BAM!

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It's on his hat! Nov 9, 2015 • 6:36:01am

re: #38 Bird in the Paw

Because I don’t read about games until I have to (stuck; interwebs, plx to help) does this trailer imply that our main is quite customizable? All the stuff from E3 and up to the trailer was a male as the PC. RPGs feel, … odd … to me, playing as a guy.

The PC is fully customizable (the character creator looks amazing — I’ll probably spend at least an hour just playing with it) and the launch trailer featured about 50/50 male/female protagonist footage.

I’ll probably play as a female as well, because I really like the voice actor, and historically, female PCs in Fallout games have had a slight advantage in the Perk department.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:36:46am

This is why I don’t get conservatives. They get outraged at things like coffee cup colors or gay fictional characters but poverty and police misconduct don’t bother them at all. I think you can tell a lot about someone by what bothers them.

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 6:37:33am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I’m sorry but I’ll admit it. These executives do work hard but if you seriously think that work ethic and your income are directly related, you’re an idiot in so many ways.

I would love to see a typical CEO/VP’s day schedule and see how much time is spent “working”.

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sagehen Nov 9, 2015 • 6:37:39am

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

It’s getting angry now.

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For values of “all” that equate to 4%, and definitions of “jobless bums” that include hungry children and the disabled….

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Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 6:38:07am

re: #119 It’s on his hat!

The PC is fully customizable (the character creator looks amazing — I’ll probably spend at least an hour just playing with it) and the launch trailer featured about 50/50 male/female protagonist footage.

I’ll probably play as a female as well, because I really like the voice actor, and historically, female PCs in Fallout games have had a slight advantage in the Perk department.

In real life, I’m a human male.
In games, I don’t play as those if I have a choice.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 9, 2015 • 6:38:26am

re: #117 HappyWarrior

It’s almost like they’re seasonal. Outage!

I know. Snowmen, sledding kids and snowflakes are ancient Christian symbols, dontcha know.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:40:40am

re: #121 Timothy Watson

I would love to see a typical CEO/VP’s day schedule and see how much time is spent “working”.

Oh come on if you’re not good at golf, it’s a tough life. // Seriously though, I think it’s insane to suggest that. I really do. If you’re seriously going to tell me an executive works harder than a construction worker and I’ll put this one on them since they’re so fond of doing it a member of the Armed Forces then they’re idiots who prove that they shouldn’t be trusted with an economy.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:41:35am

re: #124 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I know. Snowmen, sledding kids and snowflakes are ancient Christian symbols, dontcha know.

I’m going to remember this the next time a conservative complains to me about liberals being too sensitive and PC when they’re the ones getting upset over the contents of a coffee cup.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire Nov 9, 2015 • 6:42:31am

Off to the salt mines.
BBT.

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It's on his hat! Nov 9, 2015 • 6:43:14am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I’m sorry but I’ll admit it. These executives do work hard but if you seriously think that work ethic and your income are directly related, you’re an idiot in so many ways.

I do hard work, in that my work as a software engineer is mentally taxing and sometimes stressful. Some people don’t understand that you can get physically tired from tasks that only require your brain, eyes, and hands, sitting at a desk all day.

However, as I sit here in my pajamas, working remotely, I am going to have to note that I have it really fucking easy compared to someone who is on their feet all day, regardless of what that job actually entails. (Granted, I worked hard, did very well in school, and got an advanced degree to get to where I am today, and I did my time in the ~~salt mines~~ retail sector to motivate me to never have to work a job like that again.)

“Hard work” means different things to different people, but honestly, if anyone thinks low-wage manual labor is for the “lazy” or “unmotivated,” they can go fuck themselves.

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sagehen Nov 9, 2015 • 6:44:48am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I’m sorry but I’ll admit it. These executives do work hard but if you seriously think that work ethic and your income are directly related, you’re an idiot in so many ways.

Warren Buffett has a rant about “yeah, I work really hard and I’m really talented at a particular thing; how much do you think that would be worth if I’d been born in sub-Saharan Africa? What sort of value would my skill at spread-sheet analytics bring in a hunter-gatherer society, or a European nation flattened by war? How lucrative is financial management in Kazakhstan? My talents were an excellent seed, but they needed the right soil and the right climate for that seed to bear fruit; of course the society that provides that is entitled to a significant share of my earnings.”

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darthstar Nov 9, 2015 • 6:44:59am

@GayChatFriends @CarolCNN @JohnAvlon Sheesh…after living off the tit like that you’d think he would’ve become a breast surgeon.

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) November 9, 2015

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 9, 2015 • 6:45:08am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

I’m going to remember this the next time a conservative complains to me about liberals being too sensitive and PC when they’re the ones getting upset over the contents of a coffee cup.

Indeed. They’re just cups … with coffee inside … and they’ll end up in the landfill when the coffee is gone. It’s not like they;re the gd-ed Bible, or an ancient relic.

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William Lewis Nov 9, 2015 • 6:45:32am

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

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Well, dude, now that you mention it, yes. That clerk does work far harder than any VP I’ve ever met. I’ve yet to met a management type who actually earned even minimum wage while living on the labor of far better people.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:46:29am

re: #131 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Indeed. They’re just cups … with coffee inside … and they’ll end up in the landfill when the coffee is gone. It’s not like they;re the gd-ed Bible, or an ancient relic.

Hell since you bring up the trash part, wouldn’t that then upset them since by their logic, “you’re throwing Christ in the trash” unless they intend to keep all their coffee cups.

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Decatur Deb Nov 9, 2015 • 6:48:32am

re: #115 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I don’t think any of Starbucks cups in the last 18 years have had overtly Christian images on them.
coolhunting.com

Cups around here feature Ganesh.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:48:39am

re: #129 sagehen

Warren Buffett has a rant about “yeah, I work really hard and I’m really talented at a particular thing; how much do you think that would be worth if I’d been born in sub-Saharan Africa? What sort of value would my skill at spread-sheet analytics bring in a hunter-gatherer society, or a European nation flattened by war? How lucrative is financial management in Kazakhstan? My talents were an excellent seed, but they needed the right soil and the right climate for that seed to bear fruit; of course the society that provides that is entitled to a significant share of my earnings.”

Right. A lot of our fortune and misfortune are a result of things beyond our control. That’s not to say we don’t have free will but so much is beyond our control. I know this much as a man on the spectrum that my life would be much more difficult if I were born somewhere else or even as another gender.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 9, 2015 • 6:49:47am

re: #134 Decatur Deb

Cups around here feature Ganesh.

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Heathens! //

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 6:50:21am

Here is what I would do: sackcloth and ashes at the entrance to the church and I’d sit in cow manure and I’d spread it all over my body.

Careful. Talk like that is going to get Bryan Fischer all hot and bothered.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 6:50:28am

sigh…

Lt Gov-elect Jenean Hampton in Salon: When “I go back to Detroit, I have less to fear from the cops than I do from other black people.” ^JC

— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) November 9, 2015

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 6:51:31am

WHY ARE THESE COLLEGE KIDS SO SENSITIVE! ask the adults who’ve had their Christmas ruined by a Starbucks cup.

— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) November 9, 2015

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:51:54am

re: #128 It’s on his hat!

I do hard work, in that my work as a software engineer is mentally taxing and sometimes stressful. Some people don’t understand that you can get physically tired from tasks that only require your brain, eyes, and hands, sitting at a desk all day.

However, as I sit here in my pajamas, working remotely, I am going to have to note that I have it really fucking easy compared to someone who is on their feet all day, regardless of what that job actually entails. (Granted, I worked hard, did very well in school, and got an advanced degree to get to where I am today, and I did my time in the ~~salt mines~~ retail sector to motivate me to never have to work a job like that again.)

“Hard work” means different things to different people, but honestly, if anyone thinks low-wage manual labor is for the “lazy” or “unmotivated,” they can go fuck themselves.

I just think about my forefathers. Coal miners, iron workers, farmers, etc. If you reallly think that their landlord or the chairman of their company worked that much harder then I got some sea front land in Mongolia to sell you. I’ll be the first to concede that these guys did work hard to get to where they were but it’s a lot more easy to take it easy when you’re worth a lot of money and thus have less stresses. There’s a reason why there is a relationship between net worth and health.

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danarchy Nov 9, 2015 • 6:51:59am

re: #121 Timothy Watson

I would love to see a typical CEO/VP’s day schedule and see how much time is spent “working”.

I do IT support for a lot of these types, I can’t vouch for how hard they work, but I can say they never fucking stop working. God forbid an internet connection drops for 5 minutes on a saturday night at 11pm…

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:52:39am

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh…

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Wow. Yeah that’s not pandering to the racist sea of bigots at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 6:53:16am

Why do beer drinkers hate Christmas? #FalseOutrage #SettleDown #ItsAFreakinCup pic.twitter.com/v6h6XV2xkR

— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) November 9, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 6:53:18am

LOL another wingnut campaign account in my mentions. This one is not as polite as the Rand Paul campaign.

Hillary’s lies and financial support from Muslim nations who SUPPRESS women is reason to vote for her? #TrumpTrain https://t.co/PyiZTAD6oe

— NEW YORK 4 TRUMP (@NYC4TRUMP2016) November 9, 2015

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 6:53:23am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

I’m going to remember this the next time a conservative complains to me about liberals being too sensitive and PC when they’re the ones getting upset over the contents of a coffee cup.

They’ll say the PC part is the cup having green and red and not Jeebus on it.

///

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Belafon Nov 9, 2015 • 6:53:32am

I’ve only watched a few episodes of Undercover Boss, but everyone one I’ve seen, the CEO cannot keep up with the employees. The CEO does different work, but not necessarily harder work, than the employees.

Isn’t the unemployment rate for veterans twice the national average. Are they lazy bums?

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:53:53am

re: #144 The Vicious Babushka

LOL another wingnut campaign account in my mentions. This one is not as polite as the Rand Paul campaign.

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Trump Train that sounds nasty.

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Dark_Falcon Nov 9, 2015 • 6:54:28am

Quote for the day:

However, a number of developments in our recent history make this pseudo-conservative uprising more intelligible. For two hundred years and more, various conditions of American development — the process of continental settlement, the continuous establishment in new areas of new status patterns, the arrival of continuous waves of new immigrants, each pushing the preceding waves upward in the ethnic hierarchy — made it possible to satisfy a remarkably large part of the extravagant status aspirations that were aroused. There was a sort of automatic built-in status-elevator in the American social edifice. Today that elevator no longer operates automatically, or at least no longer operates in the same way.

Secondly, the growth of the mass media of communication and their use in politics have brought politics closer to the people than ever before and have made politics a form of entertainment in which the spectators feel themselves involved. Thus it has become, more than ever before, an arena into which private emotions and personal problems can be readily projected. Mass communications have aroused the mass man.

Thirdly, the long tenure in power of the liberal elements to which the pseudo-conservatives are most opposed and the wide variety of changes that have been introduced into our social, economic and administrative life have intensified the sense of powerlessness and victimization among the opponents of these changes and have widened the area of social issues over which they feel discontent. There has been, among other things, the emergence of a wholly new struggle: the conflict between businessmen of certain types and the New Deal bureaucracy, which has spilled over into a resentment of intellectuals and experts.

Finally, unlike our previous postwar periods, ours has been a period of continued crisis, from which the future promises no relief. In no foreign war of our history did we fight so long or make such sacrifices as in World War II. When it was over, instead of being able to resume our peacetime preoccupations, we were very promptly confronted with another war. It is hard for a certain type of American, who does not think much about the world outside and does not want to have to do so, to understand why we must become involved in such an unremitting struggle. It will be the fate of those in power for a long time to come to have to conduct the delicate diplomacy of the cold peace without the sympathy or understanding of a large part of their own people. From bitter experience, Eisenhower and Dulles are learning today what Truman and Acheson learned yesterday.

Excerpted from The Pseudo-Conservative Revolt
By Richard Hofstader

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:54:37am

re: #146 Belafon

I’ve only watched a few episodes of Undercover Boss, but everyone one I’ve seen, the CEO cannot keep up with the employees. The CEO does different work, but not necessarily harder work, than the employees.

Isn’t the unemployment rate for veterans twice the national average. Are they lazy bums?

Are soldiers, sailors, and Marines lazy bums? AFter all they make a fraction of what the CEO of Boeing makes. //

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 6:56:17am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Are soldiers, sailors, and Marines lazy bums? AFter all they make a fraction of what the CEO of Boeing makes. //

That’s a benefit according to some of the people in Congress. A couple years ago a couple Congressmen were saying if we pay our military more and give them better education benefits, they won’t stick around.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 6:56:30am

re: #144 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary’s lies and financial support from Muslim nations

The Saudies are funneling oil money into HRC’s campaign, are they?

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:56:50am

I mean if you want to say the executive worked hard to where he is, that’s fine but for every Andrew Carnegie who became a multi billionaire, there are literally millions of others who worked just as hard if not harder than he that died in poverty.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 6:57:18am

re: #150 Timothy Watson

That’s a benefit according to some of the people in Congress. A couple years ago a couple Congressmen were saying if we pay our military more and give them better education benefits, they won’t stick around.

Agh.

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Belafon Nov 9, 2015 • 6:58:07am

re: #150 Timothy Watson

That’s a benefit according to some of the people in Congress. A couple years ago a couple Congressmen were saying if we pay our military more and give them better education benefits, they won’t stick around.

Which is exactly the opposite of how the world works. See Costco vs Walmart.

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lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 6:58:41am

re: #73 Belafon

They’ve been fighting against the teachings of a particular Jew ever since they decided his cross was a sword.

And here, I was going with the South Park quip.

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lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 7:00:14am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

I mean if you want to say the executive worked hard to where he is, that’s fine but for every Andrew Carnegie who became a multi billionaire, there are literally millions of others who worked just as hard if not harder than he that died in poverty.

Mine workers are far more hard working than the folks who run the mine from an office desk. And they’re paid far less too.

If you think the line cook in a restaurant isn’t working as hard or harder than the CEO of a company who spends time behind a desk, and whose toughest part of the job is the commute to his office, or explaining to his board why he deserves a raise while keeping wages flat for everyone beneath him, there’s something wrong with your worldview.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 7:00:41am

Heh. I just Googled “Bernie Sanders Tax Plan”

He doesn’t say anything about income tax, but wants to reinstate the inheritance tax for estates over $3.5 million.
sanders.senate.gov

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Dr. Matt Nov 9, 2015 • 7:00:42am

Ben Carson on facebook is going apeshit trying to debunk the librul media for daring to debunk his past. Ben Carson inadvertenly debunked himself while trying to debunk the secular progressives: Ben Carson’s “proof” for story about hoax class is literally parody

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Dark_Falcon Nov 9, 2015 • 7:00:52am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

This is why I don’t get conservatives. They get outraged at things like coffee cup colors or gay fictional characters but poverty and police misconduct don’t bother them at all. I think you can tell a lot about someone by what bothers them.

Lots of conservatives DO get upset about police misconduct but you don’t the right-of-center articles that are critical of law enforcement or that push ideas for reform of same on liberal websites. This isn’t conspiracy by liberals so much as that websites with a point of view tend to highlight those pieces on the other side of the aisle that they disagree with.

Put another way: Would you want to read a piece that praised the sentencing reform efforts of Charles Koch?

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:00:58am

re: #154 Belafon

Which is exactly the opposite of how the world works. See Costco vs Walmart.

When I worked at Giant Food, my first job in High School, there was a ton of turnover not just among the high school kids like me but also among some of the adults. What Costco and that one company whose CEO decided to give a generous raise to his employee get that the right doesn’t is that you have to make your place of work enjoyable to work. If it’s just a paycheck, I’m going to be constantly seeking a way out. Pay me fairly, treat me right, and create a place I like to work at, you’re not only going to create a productive worker but also one that will consume your product and also recommend it to their friends.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 7:01:28am

THAT’S CUTE-TRUMP KNOWS HOW TO GET STUFF DONE UNLIKE QUEEN HILLARY WHO LIES AND CHEATS TO GET HER WAY:-) #TrumpTrain https://t.co/4o1ZvxKGtm

— NEW YORK 4 TRUMP (@NYC4TRUMP2016) November 9, 2015

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 7:02:00am

re: #157 The Vicious Babushka

Heh. I just Googled “Bernie Sanders Tax Plan”

He doesn’t say anything about income tax, but wants to reinstate the inheritance tax for estates over $3.5 million.
sanders.senate.gov

Oh, how horrible!

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:03:31am

re: #156 lawhawk

Mine workers are far more hard working than the folks who run the mine from an office desk. And they’re paid far less too.

If you think the line cook in a restaurant isn’t working as hard or harder than the CEO of a company who spends time behind a desk, and whose toughest part of the job is the commute to his office, or explaining to his board why he deserves a raise while keeping wages flat for everyone beneath him, there’s something wrong with your worldview.

Yep. Nailed it. Honestly, average Americans should be insulted by the idea that Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, or the Waltons (Hell let’s talk about the Waltons who inherited most of their wealth), work that much harder than they do.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:04:22am

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

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TALKING IN CAPS ONLY MAKES YOU SOUND LIKE YOU’RE YELLING IN MY EAR AND YOUR BREATH REEKS OF CHEAP SCOTCH. What a tool.

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Lidane Nov 9, 2015 • 7:04:51am

Remind me again which party has spent the last 7 years obsessed with Obama’s past?

RNC Chair Slams Media’s ‘Vendetta,’ ‘Crazy Obsession’ with Ben Carson’s Past https://t.co/EpqMMR8Jlt pic.twitter.com/UpWsR98G1m

— Mediaite (@Mediaite) November 9, 2015

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sagehen Nov 9, 2015 • 7:05:30am

re: #157 The Vicious Babushka

Heh. I just Googled “Bernie Sanders Tax Plan”

He doesn’t say anything about income tax, but wants to reinstate the inheritance tax for estates over $3.5 million.
sanders.senate.gov

Hey, those kids worked HARD for that inheritance, and were supremely talented. Do you understand the odds of inserting your particular soul into a particular sperm that beat out, through fair competition, millions and millions of other sperm to be born to that set of parents and no other?

Plus Mom’s really cranky at Thanksgiving, I have to wear what she wants and be kind to Aunt Agatha, and listen to Dad’s lectures every time he buys me out of some drunken fratboy felony…

I EARNED that money.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:06:23am

re: #165 Lidane

Remind me again which party has spent the last 7 years obsessed with Obama’s past?

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Crazy obsession? Yeah it’s the media’s fault that your party’s front runner lied about everything from attacking his mother to West Point. Get over it Baby Reince. Your party bitched about every last detail with Obama and now you can’t stand the heat since Carson is actually being exposed for the lying hypocritical asshole he is.

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 7:06:37am

re: #157 The Vicious Babushka

Heh. I just Googled “Bernie Sanders Tax Plan”

He doesn’t say anything about income tax, but wants to reinstate the inheritance tax for estates over $3.5 million.
sanders.senate.gov

The thing really pisses me off about the estate tax and it being trimmed down to a point where it’s almost nonexistent is the stepped-up tax basis that inheritors get in any property they receive. A simple summary is here:

The general rule is referred to as the “step-up” basis rule. That is, the heir receives a basis in inherited property equal to its date of death value. So, for example, if Uncle Harry bought Kodak stock in 1935 for $500 and it’s worth $5 million at his death, the basis is stepped up to $5 million in the hands of his heirs and all of that gain escapes income taxation forever.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:07:05am

re: #166 sagehen

Hey, those kids worked HARD for that inheritance, and were supremely talented. Do you understand the odds of inserting your particular soul into a particular sperm that beat out, through fair competition, millions and millions of other sperm to be born to that set of parents and no other?

Plus Mom’s really cranky at Thanksgiving, I have to wear what she wants and be kind to Aunt Agatha, and listen to Dad’s lectures every time he buys me out of some drunken fratboy felony…

I EARNED that money.

Remember that TP douche who said he earned his money, he inherited it!

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Eventual Carrion Nov 9, 2015 • 7:08:19am

re: #151 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Saudies are funneling oil money into HRC’s campaign, are they?

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She still doesn’t give them as much tongue during their kisses like Bush did.

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Joe Bacon Nov 9, 2015 • 7:12:22am

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

It’s getting angry now.

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Hmm, I wonder if that Randite is on Social Security or SSI? I deal with plenty of them at the office…

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ObserverArt Nov 9, 2015 • 7:12:48am

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

Lots of conservatives DO get upset about police misconduct but you don’t the right-of-center articles that are critical of law enforcement or that push ideas for reform of same on liberal websites. This isn’t conspiracy by liberals so much as that websites with a point of view tend to highlight those pieces on the other side of the aisle that they disagree with.

Put another way: Would you want to read a piece that praised the sentencing reform efforts of Charles Koch?

Yes.

And if the media did their jobs we might find out there is much that all sides can agree with. And if we started to agree we might just get past the partisanship splits. But that is not happening.

And I am going to cite both Rush Limbaugh and FOX News for really feeding the partisan thinking and making it a big enough business that all the rest jumped in and here we are. They feed the bad side of thinking and never feed any of the good. So, how could their viewers/listeners feel if all they hear is negative reporting and are also told that any other media outside of them cannot be trusted?

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 7:12:54am

Oh look A FREAKING IDIOT in my mentions

Okay #Trumptrain. We got a rider on board who is a first class idiot! Gotta figure the person is on welfare. https://t.co/yxfnsJCv1p

— Micky Livingston (@maxlydic) November 9, 2015

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Dark_Falcon Nov 9, 2015 • 7:13:03am

Sudden Jihad Syndrome strikes again:

2 Americans Killed at Police Training Center in Jordan

Two American contractors and a South African colleague were gunned down Monday at a U.S.-funded police training center in Jordan, according to officials.

Government spokesman Mohammad Momani told NBC News that two Americans and four Jordanians also were wounded in the attack, which took place in the cafeteria of the facility southeast of Amman. The attacker — a Jordanian police officer — also died, Momani added.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016 Nov 9, 2015 • 7:15:13am

Only shows that those obsessed by a ‘strong defense’ are also the most paranoid and fearful. Every situation becomes a war, an ‘us vs them’ challenge where those who choose an alternate cup are on the side of evil.

Its a cult.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:16:17am

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

Lots of conservatives DO get upset about police misconduct but you don’t the right-of-center articles that are critical of law enforcement or that push ideas for reform of same on liberal websites. This isn’t conspiracy by liberals so much as that websites with a point of view tend to highlight those pieces on the other side of the aisle that they disagree with.

Put another way: Would you want to read a piece that praised the sentencing reform efforts of Charles Koch?

You know damn well what I meant. I’m not saying no one on the right is bothered by poverty or police misconduct but right wingers in the media are getting upset by things like coffee cup colors and trivial shit like that. And you do have a lot of right wingers who totally shrug off poverty and police misconduct victims as deserving their fate.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:18:59am

re: #172 ObserverArt

Yes.

And if the media did their jobs we might find out there is much that all sides can agree with. And if we started to agree we might just get past the partisanship splits. But that is not happening.

And I am going to cite both Rush Limbaugh and FOX News for really feeding the partisan thinking and making it a big enough business that all the rest jumped in and here we are. They feed the bad side of thinking and never feed any of the good. So, how could their viewers/listeners feel if all they hear is negative reporting and are also told that any other media outside of them cannot be trusted?

I think the point I’m trying to get at is a lot of the right’s outrage tends to be on pretty trivial shit. And by the way Koch may have praised sentence reform and good on him but he continues to give his money to candidates who oppose that. It’s kind of like how I see the Kochs get a pat on the back for supporting SSM but they also support candidates who believe SSM is the down fall of our society and moral fabric.

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ObserverArt Nov 9, 2015 • 7:19:15am

re: #165 Lidane

Remind me again which party has spent the last 7 years obsessed with Obama’s past?

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Does Depends make adult diaper bibs? Rience sure could use one to catch all the crap coming out of his mouth as he tries to sell everyone that a guy he probably doesn’t even want as his parties candidate is being badly mistreated by the press in ways NO other candidate has ever been treated.

And we have a whole year to go…arrrgh!

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:19:43am

If conservatives want to be seen as something other than uncaring assholes, shut the fuck up about coffee cups and start caring more about the fact that there are people who are going to go this Christmas without a meal or a place to sleep.

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William Lewis Nov 9, 2015 • 7:21:25am

re: #179 HappyWarrior

If conservatives want to be seen as something other than uncaring assholes, shut the fuck up about coffee cups and start caring more about the fact that there are people who are going to go this Christmas without a meal or a place to sleep.

Now now, that would require good works and that’s against their fantasy of Christianity.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:22:53am

I mean look at group like the “Million Moms” Do right wing candidates that make comments that trivialize rape bother them at all or Rush Limbaugh calling Sandra Fluke a slut? But Ellen DeGeneres appearing in a ad for JCPenney did or Doritos and other companies having same sex parents in their ads does. DF, this is a genuine thing with your ideology. I know that all conservatives aren’t uncaring people but a lot of prominetn conservatives focus their outrages on really stupid things that shouldn’t even piss people off while they shrug off things that should upset them. That’s what the point of my 120 ws.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:26:29am

And I am not saying furthermore that the left is immune from stupid or silly outrages btu the right has a lot more of them and it’s a lot more about what doesn’t bother them. Income inequality gets brought up and you get called a socialist. Sexism gets brought up and you’re called a sexless prude who hates men. But oh no, a coffee company made red paper cups(that are going to end up in the trash anyhow) for the Holiday season and FOX News bitches abotu this?. I’m sorry but I have it with right wing bullshit. I’ve tried like hell to empathize but I cannot empathize with an ideology whose media spokesmen and women focus their outrages over coffee cups and same sex parents rather than real problems that do exist in our society.

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Dark_Falcon Nov 9, 2015 • 7:27:40am

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look A FREAKING IDIOT in my mentions

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@maxlydic For the smackdown you are about to receive, May Trump make you truly thankful. #FAIL

— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) November 9, 2015

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Dark_Falcon Nov 9, 2015 • 7:30:51am

re: #179 HappyWarrior

If conservatives want to be seen as something other than uncaring assholes, shut the fuck up about coffee cups and start caring more about the fact that there are people who are going to go this Christmas without a meal or a place to sleep.

Hey, the people the right who think for the most part aren’t the bosses of those who don’t think. I made the point that this Tempest In a Red Cup is stupid last night and I’ll do again I’m sure. But I can’t stop nuts who want to freak out from freaking out.

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Lidane Nov 9, 2015 • 7:31:16am

I hope more players add a little bit extra for the rest of the season:

Eagles linemen don’t mince words on feelings toward Greg Hardy. https://t.co/dqR2RfQ7me pic.twitter.com/2dr3l9ORCw

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) November 9, 2015

The NFL is filled with plenty of terrible people, but Greg Hardy is an absolute motherfucker. He shouldn’t be playing, and Jerry Jones should be ashamed of himself for enabling him.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 7:32:04am

re: #183 Dark_Falcon

I just blocked it. Not worth a display of my excellent rage.

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Dr. Matt Nov 9, 2015 • 7:33:52am

re: #185 Lidane

I hope more players add a little bit extra for the rest of the season:

The NFL is filled with plenty of terrible people, but Greg Hardy is an absolute motherfucker. He shouldn’t be playing, and Jerry Jones should be ashamed of himself for enabling him.

“America’s Team” is already uniformly hated by most of America because they have the audacity to call themselves “America’s Team”. The awful Greg Hardy is just icing on the cake. Jerry Jones and the Ford family need to get out of the NFL.

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Lidane Nov 9, 2015 • 7:34:07am

This should be fun:

Trump Responds to George H.W. Bush Book: He Wanted Me for VP in ’88 https://t.co/j2eDUurwUc by @HashtagGriswold pic.twitter.com/nH37WwpcCr

— Mediaite (@Mediaite) November 9, 2015

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b.d. Nov 9, 2015 • 7:34:58am

re: #188 Lidane

This should be fun:

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Dan Quayle or Donald Trump?

Hmmmmmmmmmm…….

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Dark_Falcon Nov 9, 2015 • 7:35:19am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

You know damn well what I meant. I’m not saying no one on the right is bothered by poverty or police misconduct but right wingers in the media are getting upset by things like coffee cup colors and trivial shit like that. And you do have a lot of right wingers who totally shrug off poverty and police misconduct victims as deserving their fate.

No HW, I did not know what you meant. You threw out a blanket statement about “conservatives” and “right-wingers” and did not qualify it. In the current climate of unlimited vituperativeness qualification and nuance have to be stated, they cannot be assumed.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:35:19am

re: #184 Dark_Falcon

Hey, the people the right who think for the most part aren’t the bosses of those who don’t think. I made the point that this Tempest In a Red Cup is stupid last night and I’ll do again I’m sure. But I can’t stop nuts who want to freak out from freaking out.

Okay good on you for calling out the stupidity over the red cups because as far as right wing fauxrages, this one just may take the prize. I am just saying if these people want liberals like me to see themselves as something other than assholes, they need to shut the fuck up about a paper cup that is going to end up in the garbage anyhow and be focused more on real problems. That’s my whole point here. Their spokesmen and women in the media via Fox and the right wing groups Fox brings on to whine about this crap influence people. Instead of pointing out that there are people on our streets including many veterans I may add that will have their Christmas without a roof over their head or a decent meal, they decide to focus on cups and frankly that’s on your ideology. Not you personally obviously since you do see how stupid it is.

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Eventual Carrion Nov 9, 2015 • 7:35:36am

re: #179 HappyWarrior

If conservatives want to be seen as something other than uncaring assholes, shut the fuck up about coffee cups and start caring more about the fact that there are people who are going to go this Christmas without a meal or a place to sleep.

We guard our world with locks and guns
And we guard our fine possessions
And once a year when Christmas comes
We give to our relations
And perhaps we give a little to the poor
If the generosity should seize us
But if any one of us should interfere
In the business of why they are poor
They get the same as the rebel Jesus

- The Rebel Jesus

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Dark_Falcon Nov 9, 2015 • 7:36:37am

re: #189 b.d.

Dan Quayle or Donald Trump?

Hmmmmmmmmmm…….

This just in: Donald Trump channels Ben Carson with biography lie.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:37:21am

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

No HW, I did not know what you meant. You threw out a blanket statement about “conservatives” and “right-wingers” and did not qualify it. In the current climate of unlimited vituperativeness qualification and nuance have to be stated, they cannot be assumed.

Sorry man. I am just tired of bullshit. I mean we have multibillion dollar news outlet spreading outrage over cup colors. Cup colors? Maybe my blanket statement was off a bit but as I told you above, it’s laudable that Mr. Koch may have praised sentencing reform but yet his money goes to candidates that oppose it. He says he supports SSM. Again his money goes to candidates that oppose it. There’s a saying about a mile wide but an inch deep and that applies here.

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It's on his hat! Nov 9, 2015 • 7:37:35am

re: #188 Lidane

This should be fun:

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Continually lying about unverifiable stuff of this nature (John Oliver’s show begged me to come on, GHWB wanted me for VP, etc.) is the GOP equivalent of the Canadian girlfriend.

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Bird in the Paw Nov 9, 2015 • 7:37:40am

re: #111 WhatEVs

They want the coffee cup to have Christ on the cross. At this point, ornaments and snowflakes won’t do. Must show the crucifixion or it is an attack on Christianity! Or something.

I think the proper response is “the cup is red because jebus has done bleeded all over it,” can’t get more christy-on-a-cross than that

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 7:37:47am

re: #188 Lidane

Why do all the Republicans of late remind me of this?

Jon Lovitz Appears as the Pathological Liar on Johnny Carson’s Tonight Show

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ObserverArt Nov 9, 2015 • 7:39:28am

re: #184 Dark_Falcon

Hey, the people the right who think for the most part aren’t the bosses of those who don’t think. I made the point that this Tempest In a Red Cup is stupid last night and I’ll do again I’m sure. But I can’t stop nuts who want to freak out from freaking out.

You can’t but sure as hell the leaders and politicians that make up the GOP could.

But they don’t.

Ask why and you will find the answer. I think it has something to do with knowing you only have support from the outraged and they are only with you when continually outraged.

I give Kasich credit for at least trying to touch on the subject of crazy talk. And, look where it gets him.

I expect Trump to use bit and pieces of Carson stupidity to try to eliminate Carson, but he will still use outrage to keep the GOP base fed. And Trump will use Christmas ‘war’ as a tool too if it gets him where he wants to go.

And there is the issue. They all know what they are doing and they all know they could put a stop to it, but it will cost them, and none of them are prepared to suffer that.

I know it is too much to ask, but maybe our freaking leaders need to do some damn leading instead of outright pandering.

And I’ll step off this 2” high cardboard soapbox know. I gotta get to work…see you all later.

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Lidane Nov 9, 2015 • 7:39:58am

If you listened to GOP over last 2 wks, THE pressing issue facing America is media bias—-good luck w/ that

— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) November 9, 2015

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:40:02am

re: #196 Bird in the Paw

I think the proper response is “the cup is red because jebus has done bleeded all over it,” can’t get more christy-on-a-cross than that

I really think a good retort and thanks to WhatEV for pointing this out but these are going in the trash anyhow. You really want an image of your Savior on the cross or his birth ending up in a landfill eventually?

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Belafon Nov 9, 2015 • 7:40:49am

re: #196 Bird in the Paw

I think the proper response is “the cup is red because jebus has done bleeded all over it,” can’t get more christy-on-a-cross than that

It’s red because of the birth. Maybe next year the cup can include the image of the immaculate placenta.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:41:32am

re: #198 ObserverArt

You can’t but sure as hell the leaders and politicians that make up the GOP could.

But they don’t.

Ask why and you will find the answer. I think it has something to do with knowing you only have support from the outraged and they are only with you when continually outraged.

I give Kasich credit for at least trying to touch on the subject of crazy talk. And, look where it gets him.

I expect Trump to use bit and pieces of Carson stupidity to try to eliminate Carson, but he will still use outrage to keep the GOP base fed. And Trump will use Christmas ‘war’ as a too tool if it gets him where he wants to go.

And there is the issue. They all know what they are doing and they all know they could put a stop to it, but it will cost them, and none of them are prepared to suffer that.

I know it is too much to ask, but maybe our freaking leaders need to do some damn leading instead of outright pandering.

And I’ll step off this 2” high cardboard soapbox know. I gotta get to work…see you all later.

Right. I mean there’s only so much that average schmos can do so I apologize DF if I made it seem like I think you’re responsible for this but when FNC, a multibillion dollar news organization is using its money and influence to spread bullshit outrage about a coffee cup’s color, I then have a serious problem with that ideology and worldview.

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Dr. Matt Nov 9, 2015 • 7:42:28am

It’s only a matter of time: #ChristmasCoffeeCupsMatter

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) November 9, 2015

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It's on his hat! Nov 9, 2015 • 7:43:03am

Isn’t half of O’Reilly’s remaining schtick the War on Christmas bullshit?

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Bird in the Paw Nov 9, 2015 • 7:43:56am

re: #134 Decatur Deb

Cups around here feature Ganesh.

Without reading the text, I assumed that was a GOPephant

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Lidane Nov 9, 2015 • 7:44:23am

*cough*

Chris Christie tries to take a thwack at Ben Carson by reminding everyone about Bridgegate: https://t.co/isdklsar1P pic.twitter.com/zErSV3ETmR

— Nick Martin (@nickmartin) November 9, 2015

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 7:45:02am

So, the new outrage RW’s want to go with is that Obama wasn’t vetted enough. Obama, who was elected twice and can’t run again. Yeah. That will work well with America.

Sigh…

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Dark_Falcon Nov 9, 2015 • 7:45:14am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

You can be tired of bullshit but please don’t make the conflation that “Fox News” = “Conservatism”, because that not really true. Fox News isn’t trying to help conservative candidates or advance conservative policies by yelling about coffee cups: FNC is trying to drive up viewership in order to make more money for the Murdoch family. It’s not politics, its Outrage as Entertainment aimed at people who want to be outraged.

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lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 7:46:00am

re: #185 Lidane

When the Eagles (or Philly fans generally) hold the high ground on anything, you know you’re truly screwed.

Of course, that it took photo/video evidence to show that Greg Hardy assaulted someone, shows just how screwed up the NFL remains, and how even photo/video evidence isn’t enough to convict people of assault under “normal” circumstances, let alone those who are in law enforcement engaging in excessive force.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:46:05am

re: #204 It’s on his hat!

Isn’t half of O’Reilly’s remaining schtick the War on Christmas bullshit?

Yep. I also saw that George Will of all people smacked him down for not interviewing people directly involved in the Reagan assassination attempt. Just confirms what I already knew about BillO, that he’s a shitty excuse for a journalist and just an angry man with a soapbox. I mean what does it tell you that the Lincoln Library refuses to sell his book about Lincoln.

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It's on his hat! Nov 9, 2015 • 7:46:29am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

Oh, how I wish you could convince the outraged of this fact.

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Lidane Nov 9, 2015 • 7:46:41am

re: #207 Jenner7

So, the new outrage RW’s want to go with is that Obama wasn’t vetted enough. Obama, who was elected twice and can’t run again. Yeah. That will work well with America.

Sigh…

TEH LIBRUL MEDIA WUZ SILENT ABOUT OBUMMER’S PAST!

Really? Then the rest of us must have hallucinated the media shitstorm about Rev. Wright.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:49:30am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

You can be tired of bullshit but please don’t make the conflation that “Fox News” = “Conservatism”, because that not really true. Fox News isn’t trying to help conservative candidates or advance conservative policies by yelling about coffee cups: FNC is trying to drive up viewership in order to make more money for the Murdoch family. It’s not politics, its Outrage as Entertainment aimed at people who want to be outraged.

Fair enough. And I’ll retract my statement if I see conservative politicians or pundits calling this outrage stupid but I doubt they will. I just think it says a lot that right wing pundits are using their energy on this and whether you like it or not, I think a lot of conservative people are going to be bitching about the cups.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:51:37am

re: #211 It’s on his hat!

Oh, how I wish you could convince the outraged of this fact.

Or the fact that Rupert and Roger think they’re morons and don’t give two shits about them, their families, or their religion. The only religion Murdoch and Ailes have is money.

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 7:51:58am

re: #204 It’s on his hat!

Isn’t ~~half of~~ O’Reilly’s ~~remaining schtick the~~ War on Christmas bullshit?

FIFY.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 7:52:03am

re: #212 Lidane

TEH LIBRUL MEDIA WUZ SILENT ABOUT OBUMMER’S PAST!

Really? Then the rest of us must have hallucinated the media shitstorm about Rev. Wright.

Who’s Reverend Wright,? //

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goddamnedfrank Nov 9, 2015 • 7:54:41am

re: #157 The Vicious Babushka

Heh. I just Googled “Bernie Sanders Tax Plan”

He doesn’t say anything about income tax, but wants to reinstate the inheritance tax for estates over $3.5 million.
sanders.senate.gov

I’d probably leave the exemption where it is but eliminate the ability of husbands and wives to add their deceased spouses unused exemption to their own. $5.43 million sounds like a lot but it can easily be reached by families who are still firmly in the middle class, especially in real estate markets like Manhattan and SoCal. That exemption also applies to the entire estate after charitable giving, and not to each recipient’s bequeathal.

I’d probably also encourage wealthy people to give more while alive by raising the gift tax exemption ($14K per giver to each unique recipient per year.) I’d also encourage the well off to give more while alive by presenting gift givers the option of paying tax gift amounts over that limit at a rate less than the current 40% instead of just taking that amount off their lifetime estate exemption.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 7:57:36am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

You can be tired of bullshit but please don’t make the conflation that “Fox News” = “Conservatism”, because that not really true. Fox News isn’t trying to help conservative candidates or advance conservative policies by yelling about coffee cups: FNC is trying to drive up viewership in order to make more money for the Murdoch family. It’s not politics, its Outrage as Entertainment aimed at people who want to be outraged.

You are going to have to get used to the fact that the term “conservative” as it applies to the GOP right now has been seriously tainted by the likes of Palin and the current crop of extreme self-styled conservatives in Congress, as well as every single person who labels any Republican who doesn’t agree 100% with their over-the-top slash-and-burn beliefs as not a “true/real conservative” but is instead a RINO.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:00:44am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

You are going to have to get used to the fact that the term “conservative” as it applies to the GOP right now has been seriously tainted by the likes of Palin and the current crop of extreme self-styled conservatives in Congress, as well as every single person who labels any Republican who doesn’t agree 100% with their over-the-top slash-and-burn beliefs as not a “true/real conservative” but is instead a RINO.

Yep. So sue me but I have a negative perception of conservativism and conservatives due to the rhetoric and actions of prominent self-described conservatives. If sane conservatives want to do something about people like me perceiving them and their ideology that way then they need to admit that their ideology has largely been co-opted by extremists in recent years.

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Dark_Falcon Nov 9, 2015 • 8:01:48am

re: #211 It’s on his hat!

Oh, how I wish you could convince the outraged of this fact.

Not going to happen. Again, the Ouraged want to remain outraged. If they gave up their rage they’d be forced to return to the uncomfortable reality they are currently fleeing.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:03:18am

I mean don’t want to be portrayed as a heart less jerk? Don’t support like presidential candidate Mike Huckabee does allowing coverage to be denied because of pre-existing conditions. Really, I just love hearing from a man who was once morbidly obese by his own eating habits that my heart condition that I had no control over having being a reason to deny me coverage. I could go on and on but their image and perception with me is a direct result of their own actions. I am not going to look fondly on conservatism as an ideology until it stops being an ideology that makes stuf like this a hallmark.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Nov 9, 2015 • 8:03:23am

It’s getting hot.

Warming set to breach 1C threshold
bbc.com

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goddamnedfrank Nov 9, 2015 • 8:04:57am

Of course I’d also remove the Social Security withholding income cap entirely and subject all unearned income like dividends and long term capital gains (possibly above a modest amount) to both Social Security and Medicare withholdings. Basically I’d encourage and enable the well off give more to their loved ones, while also making them contribute much more into the social safety net while alive.

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Dr. Matt Nov 9, 2015 • 8:06:52am

re: #222 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s getting hot.

Warming set to breach 1C threshold
bbc.com

This morning in Tampa it was 78 degrees at around 8:30 am. During the summer the average team is usually 77 degrees at the same time.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:08:03am

Hell though, it’s not even going along with what Huckabee said. It’s supporting candidates that talk about repealing ACA just out of partisan spite.

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whitebeach Nov 9, 2015 • 8:08:53am

re: #220 Dark_Falcon

Not going to happen. Again, the Ouraged want to remain outraged. If they gave up their rage they’d be forced to return to the uncomfortable reality they are currently fleeing.

The “uncomfortable reality” that you yourself are currently, and continually, fleeing is that it is precisely these people who make up a powerful majority force in the party that you spend so much time making excuses for.

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RabbitRunner Nov 9, 2015 • 8:11:15am

Wow, what a load of fascist moronics

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:11:50am

re: #226 whitebeach

The “uncomfortable reality” that you yourself are currently, and continually, fleeing is that it is precisely these people who make up a powerful majority force in the party that you spend so much time making excuses for.

Thank you, that’s what I was trying to get at. Are there sane Republican and conservatives who will see this outrag and say “Hey this is stupid shit”, sure and kudos to you DF for seeing it for what it is but there are a lot of conservatives who will see this and claim that this is just “more PC down our throats”. I mean it, it says a lot about someone by what bothers them. Homophobia, sexism, racism, etc bother me while cup colors, fictional gay parents, and being wished Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas bother RW pundits and RW schmos.

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Kryptik Nov 9, 2015 • 8:15:09am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

I mean it, it says a lot about someone by what bothers them. Homophobia, sexism, racism, etc bother me while cup colors, fictional gay parents, and being wished Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas bother RW pundits and RW schmos.

Not to mention that, with the way the electorate is stacked and differences in coverage/fervor, both those sets of outrages are given equal power and legitimacy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 8:15:52am

Ben Shapiro’s outrage of the day is white privilege and the situation at Mizzou.

poor thang…

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:16:41am

re: #229 Kryptik

Not to mention that, with the way the electorate is stacked and differences in coverage/fervor, both those sets of outrages are given equal power and legitimacy.

And that’s my problem with Fox. Outrage over a cup color is given the same attention if not more attention that poverty. It’s true that Fox’s main goal is to make money for Rupert Murdoch and his family but it’s also true that they are trying to present a worldview and that worldview is definitely right wing and they’re definitely trying to influence people of that worldview.

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Snarknado! Nov 9, 2015 • 8:17:17am

Meanwhile, I am here in Northern California, where WATER in serious quantities is falling from the sky. Is this a sign of the end times?

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:18:25am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ben Shapiro’s outrage of the day is white privilege and the situation at Mizzou.

poor thang…

What’s going on at Mizzou? I saw a headline about football players saying that they won’t play until the University’s President steps down I think.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 8:18:28am

BREAKING: University of Missouri president to resign. Tune in to @msnbc for live coverage.

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) November 9, 2015

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Snarknado! Nov 9, 2015 • 8:19:16am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

What’s going on at Mizzou? I saw a headline about football players saying that they won’t play until the University’s President steps down I think.

Short version: serious racist incidents he did nothing about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 8:19:22am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

What’s going on at Mizzou? I saw a headline about football players saying that they won’t play until the University’s President steps down I think.

Faculty also started a two-day walkout today in support.

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 8:19:36am

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just heard they are scheduled to play BYU Saturday and if they don’t, they owe BYU 1 million dollars.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 8:20:14am

re: #232 Snarknado!

Meanwhile, I am here in Northern California, where WATER in serious quantities is falling from the sky. Is this a sign of the end times?

Water falling from the skies? What nonsense!

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William Lewis Nov 9, 2015 • 8:20:42am

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If accurate, I’d guess the faculty walkout in support of the football team was the key. Thing is, how much will this change? The board of regents (or what ever they use in the third world hole that is Mississippi) will simply appoint another rich white guy.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:20:57am

re: #235 Snarknado!

Short version: serious racist incidents he did nothing about.

Ah okay.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:21:10am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

Faculty also started a two-day walkout today in support.

Wow must have been pretty serious.

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Snarknado! Nov 9, 2015 • 8:21:14am

re: #238 Targetpractice

Water falling from the skies? What nonsense!

//

But I saw it… truly, I promise! With my own eyes!!!

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:21:29am

re: #239 William Lewis

If accurate, I’d guess the faculty walkout in support of the football team was the key. Thing is, how much will this change? The board of regents (or what ever they use in the third world hole that is Mississippi) will simply appoint another rich white guy.

Missouri.

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It's on his hat! Nov 9, 2015 • 8:21:33am

re: #237 Jenner7

I just heard they are scheduled to play BYU Saturday and if they don’t, they owe BYU 1 million dollars.

It’d be nice to think that the president did the right thing here, but it looks like it all comes down to money anyway.

At least the players in the football program have integrity.

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Dr. Matt Nov 9, 2015 • 8:22:12am

re: #235 Snarknado!

Short version: serious racist incidents he did nothing about.

The protests at the campus began after the student government president, who is black, said in September that people in a passing pickup truck shouted racial slurs at him. Days before the homecoming parade, members of a black student organization said slurs were hurled at them by an apparently drunken white student.

Also, a swastika drawn in feces was found recently in a dormitory bathroom.

Butler, who participated in the homecoming parade protest, began his hunger strike on Nov. 2 to call attention to racial problems at the state’s flagship university.

Many of the protests have been led by an organization called Concerned Student 1950, which gets its name from the year the university accepted its first black student. Its members besieged Wolfe’s car at homecoming last month, and they have been conducting a sit-in on a campus plaza since last Monday
From: huffingtonpost.com
.

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lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 8:22:48am

Dim Jim thinks that this is a scam, claiming that players aren’t supporting all this, even as the football team coach did express his support, along with tweeting a photo of the team.

Oh, and he thinks that this was all agitated by someone who’s connected to Sen. McCaskill’s office.

MIZZOU PLAYER: Half of Coaches and Players DO NOT Support Black Player Boycott https://t.co/bnDk4Hhxc3 via @gatewaypundit

— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) November 9, 2015

Figures. Top #Mizzou Campus Protest Leader and #SJW Is Democrat McCaskill’s Intern https://t.co/1bijdk8ocq via @gatewaypundit

— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) November 9, 2015

We’d just have to ignore systematic racism on campus, problems within Missouri generally, and that institutional racism is pervasive as we’ve seen time and time again.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Nov 9, 2015 • 8:23:33am

He’s reading scripture.

Has no place in Public University. gah

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William Lewis Nov 9, 2015 • 8:23:47am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

Missouri.

brain cramp. But still the basic question holds - the government there is predominantly Republican and won’t put someone sane in just because of a protest.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:24:18am

re: #245 Dr. Matt

The protests at the campus began after the student government president, who is black, said in September that people in a passing pickup truck shouted racial slurs at him. Days before the homecoming parade, members of a black student organization said slurs were hurled at them by an apparently drunken white student.

Also, a swastika drawn in feces was found recently in a dormitory bathroom.

Butler, who participated in the homecoming parade protest, began his hunger strike on Nov. 2 to call attention to racial problems at the state’s flagship university.

Many of the protests have been led by an organization called Concerned Student 1950, which gets its name from the year the university accepted its first black student. Its members besieged Wolfe’s car at homecoming last month, and they have been conducting a sit-in on a campus plaza since last Monday
From: huffingtonpost.com
.

Jesus did I enter a time machine?

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:24:41am

re: #248 William Lewis

brain cramp. But still the basic question holds - the government there is predominantly Republican and won’t put someone sane in just because of a protest.

Nah, s’all good. But yeah I’m afraid that may be right.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 8:24:44am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Jesus did I enter a time machine?

We must have set the Wayback Machine to 1955.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:25:37am

re: #251 Targetpractice

We must have set the Wayback Machine to 1955.

It really feels that way at times.

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 8:25:44am

re: #226 whitebeach

The “uncomfortable reality” that you yourself are currently, and continually, fleeing is that it is precisely these people who make up a powerful majority force in the party that you spend so much time making excuses for.

Not just the majority of the party, but the majority of talking heads that drive party thinking and have done so for a number of years - and that includes the GOP itself. I offer this as proof. This is from the GOP. Not some oddball offshoot. The party itself.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Dr. Matt Nov 9, 2015 • 8:25:57am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Jesus did I enter a time machine?

Yes, if you’re currently in Missouri, Oklahoma, Arkansas, or Kansas.

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Kryptik Nov 9, 2015 • 8:25:59am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

The past isn’t dead, it isn’t even past.

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 8:26:02am

re: #246 lawhawk

The Mizzou Family stands as one. We are united. We are behind our players. #ConcernedStudent1950 GP pic.twitter.com/fMHbPPTTKl

— Coach Gary Pinkel (@GaryPinkel) November 8, 2015

Yep, half the players and coaches aren’t involved, you betcha.

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sagehen Nov 9, 2015 • 8:28:19am

re: #242 Snarknado!

But I saw it… truly, I promise! With my own eyes!!!

Northern California, you say? Mendocino and Humboldt are purveyors of organic substances that make the evidence of your own eyes suspect; Cupertino and Palo Alto have purveyors of electronic devices that make the evidence of your own eyes suspect.

I won’t accuse you of lying; you’ve simply been misled by sensory-altering external influences.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:28:41am

re: #256 Timothy Watson

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Yep, half the players and coaches aren’t involved, you betcha.

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DimJim’s going to dig up the coach’s party registration. //

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blueraven Nov 9, 2015 • 8:29:42am

I am very happy that the athletes have been able to affect change at Mizzou. But wondering if any other group of students would have had the same power?

Football is big business. Money talks.

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 8:31:06am

Watching the Law and Order SVU episode that’s pretty much about the Duggar’s.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:31:46am

re: #260 Jenner7

Watching the Law and Order SVU episode that’s pretty much about the Duggar’s.

Oooh who played Jim Bob?

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Big Beautiful Door Nov 9, 2015 • 8:32:14am

re: #259 blueraven

I am very happy that the athletes have been able to affect change at Missou. But wondering if any other group of students would have had the same power?

The answer is no.

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lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 8:32:26am

Heh.

Clinton would defeat Carson by 2 percentage points, Rubio by 5; Bush by 8; Cruz or Fiorina by 10; and Trump by 15. https://t.co/HFlm0SymgT

— Greg Dworkin (@DemFromCT) November 9, 2015

It’s early to be talking polls, but since the GOP is fixated on them, here’s a reminder of why they need to drag Hillary through the mud and worse - she’s kicking ass and taking names. Every last one of the GOPers who are currently in the race are losing to her in head to head matchups. They need to drag Hillary’s numbers down, or else they stand no chance next year.

That’s why they needed the Benghazi hearings. That’s why they need to dredge up all the past scandals/non-scandals/outrageous outrages/nontroversies/etc. to try and hit Hillary. And yet we’ve had 2 decades of vetting of Hillary so these “scandals” aren’t helping the GOP close the gap.

That said, the Democrats better GOTV or else that’ll be moot. Especially down-ticket races.

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 8:33:25am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

No one I know, they are more attractive and younger looking. They only have 13 kids, not 19 and the 13 year old ends up pregnant and her brother is a suspect.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:33:38am

re: #263 lawhawk

Heh.

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It’s early to be talking polls, but since the GOP is fixated on them, here’s a reminder of why they need to drag Hillary through the mud and worse - she’s kicking ass and taking names. Every last one of the GOPers who are currently in the race are losing to her in head to head matchups. They need to drag Hillary’s numbers down, or else they stand no chance next year.

That’s why they needed the Benghazi hearings. That’s why they need to dredge up all the past scandals/non-scandals/outrageous outrages/nontroversies/etc. to try and hit Hillary. And yet we’ve had 2 decades of vetting of Hillary so these “scandals” aren’t helping the GOP close the gap.

That said, the Democrats better GOTV or else that’ll be moot. Especially down-ticket races.

I would hope that Carson is only close because he’s not that well known.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:34:14am

re: #264 Jenner7

No one I know, they are more attractive and younger looking. They only have 13 kids, not 19 and the 13 year old ends up pregnant and her brother is a suspect.

Oh okay. I’ll have to watch that. SVU was one of my favorites but I lost track.

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 8:34:33am

re: #263 lawhawk

I would wager that Carson’s (and Rubio’s) will go South the more news attention he gets.

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gwangung Nov 9, 2015 • 8:35:18am

re: #263 lawhawk

Heh.

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It’s early to be talking polls, but since the GOP is fixated on them, here’s a reminder of why they need to drag Hillary through the mud and worse - she’s kicking ass and taking names. Every last one of the GOPers who are currently in the race are losing to her in head to head matchups. They need to drag Hillary’s numbers down, or else they stand no chance next year.

That’s why they needed the Benghazi hearings. That’s why they need to dredge up all the past scandals/non-scandals/outrageous outrages/nontroversies/etc. to try and hit Hillary. And yet we’ve had 2 decades of vetting of Hillary so these “scandals” aren’t helping the GOP close the gap.

That said, the Democrats better GOTV or else that’ll be moot. Especially down-ticket races.

This is what the Obama campaign was very, very good at. This is what ALL the DNC brass knows what won them the elections. This is what all and RNC brass knows, and is the reason for the Voter suppression efforts.

It won’t be for lack of strategy or trying. It’ll hinge on whether suppression works or not.

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Big Beautiful Door Nov 9, 2015 • 8:35:37am

re: #263 lawhawk

Heh.

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It’s early to be talking polls, but since the GOP is fixated on them, here’s a reminder of why they need to drag Hillary through the mud and worse - she’s kicking ass and taking names. Every last one of the GOPers who are currently in the race are losing to her in head to head matchups. They need to drag Hillary’s numbers down, or else they stand no chance next year.

That’s why they needed the Benghazi hearings. That’s why they need to dredge up all the past scandals/non-scandals/outrageous outrages/nontroversies/etc. to try and hit Hillary. And yet we’ve had 2 decades of vetting of Hillary so these “scandals” aren’t helping the GOP close the gap.

That said, the Democrats better GOTV or else that’ll be moot. Especially down-ticket races.

Its true that the demographics keep changing in the Democrats favor, but as we here in Kentucky saw, not voting can have bad results. We had only 31% turnout, and our new teabagger Governor is going to waste hundreds of millions of dollars to shutdown the popular Kentucky healthcare exchange precisely because its popular and puts Obamacare in a positive light.

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Mike Lamb Nov 9, 2015 • 8:36:23am

re: #259 blueraven

I am very happy that the athletes have been able to affect change at Missou. But wondering if any other group of students would have had the same power?

Football is big business. Money talks.

Clearly not. You have to use the best leverage available.

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 8:36:50am

Somewhere in America, someone is pissed about Starbucks holiday cups. while also thinking the Missouri students are over reacting.

— Vision (@VisionPoet) November 9, 2015

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:37:01am

re: #267 Timothy Watson

I would wager that Carson’s (and Rubio’s) will go South the more news attention he gets.

Maybe one of you can vouch this for me but I heard Rubio tried throwing his wife under the bus for the credit card stuff. I think people will dislike Lil Marco more than not if they get to know him but I’ve been wrong before.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:37:25am

re: #271 Jenner7

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Yep.

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Mike Lamb Nov 9, 2015 • 8:37:37am

re: #263 lawhawk

Heh.

[Embedded content]

It’s early to be talking polls, but since the GOP is fixated on them, here’s a reminder of why they need to drag Hillary through the mud and worse - she’s kicking ass and taking names. Every last one of the GOPers who are currently in the race are losing to her in head to head matchups. They need to drag Hillary’s numbers down, or else they stand no chance next year.

That’s why they needed the Benghazi hearings. That’s why they need to dredge up all the past scandals/non-scandals/outrageous outrages/nontroversies/etc. to try and hit Hillary. And yet we’ve had 2 decades of vetting of Hillary so these “scandals” aren’t helping the GOP close the gap.

That said, the Democrats better GOTV or else that’ll be moot. Especially down-ticket races.

And I really believe that Carson would fair worse once it became a head to head, and people really started focusing on the crazy positions that he holds.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 8:37:57am

re: #267 Timothy Watson

I would wager that Carson’s (and Rubio’s) will go South the more news attention he gets.

Yeah, as the field narrows down and the “vetting” begins in earnest, we’re going to learn that whoever the GOP puts up has more than a few skeletons left in their closet. Meanwhile, just what can the GOP hit Hillary with anymore? Every “scandal” peters out, and screaming “SOCIALIST!” is getting old, especially when compared to an admitted democratic socialist sharing the stage with her to show how moderate she really is.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:38:30am

re: #274 Mike Lamb

And I really believe that Carson would fair worse once it became a head to head, and people really started focusing on the crazy positions that he holds.

Yeah I don’t think a lot of people relaly “know” Carson yet. We’ve “known” Trump for a while now.

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goddamnedfrank Nov 9, 2015 • 8:40:22am

re: #263 lawhawk

Heh.

Clinton only beating Carson by 2 makes no sense at all given how utterly goddamned crazy he is. I’ll just chock that up to people not even trying to think about the particulars at this point.

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Big Beautiful Door Nov 9, 2015 • 8:40:59am

re: #276 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t think a lot of people relaly “know” Carson yet. We’ve “known” Trump for a while now.

Carson is not going to be the GOP nominee. Trump has a better chance than everyone originally thought, but as of right now I think Rubio is the most likely nominee, but by no means a prohibitive favorite. Its hard for me to see how Jeb gets back on track; there just isn’t any desire anywhere on the political spectrum for putting another Bush in the White House.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:42:09am

re: #278 Big Beautiful Door

Carson is not going to be the GOP nominee. Trump has a better chance than everyone originally thought, but as of right now I think Rubio is the most likely nominee, but by no means a prohibitive favorite. Its hard for me to see how Jeb gets back on track; there just isn’t any desire anywhere on the political spectrum for putting another Bush in the White House.

I think you’e right about Rubio. The establishment seems to love him. I do think Trump is far more likely than Carson for monetary reasons. I don’t know how long Carson will last.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 8:43:35am

Stupid little shitweasel==>

UPDATE: President of U of M just quit, proving once again that “white privilege” means getting fired for your race. https://t.co/0tex5rp1YY

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) November 9, 2015

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:45:10am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

Stupid little shitweasel==>

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Baby needs his bottle again and diaper changed.

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Belafon Nov 9, 2015 • 8:46:19am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

Stupid little shitweasel==>

Quit = Fired. Gotcha.

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 8:48:12am

SVU episode update: Ugh. Turns out the son is pervy, but didn’t get his sister pregnant…their pastor did. And right after they got proof he got her pregnant, her parents married her off to the pastor. Ick, ick, ick.

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lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 8:49:10am

The power of images (and tweets):

Prime Minister Netenyahu is meeting with President Obama today at the WH. It’s the first face-to-face meeting since the Iran deal was made.

Obama and Bibi mend fences https://t.co/LAKcpg1iDz via @nahaltoosi | AP photo pic.twitter.com/8SkIKmtegT

— POLITICO (@politico) November 9, 2015

Opinion: Why Obama and Netanyahu need to SCRAP https://t.co/TycJ7azSO0 pic.twitter.com/qU1EXJGzOL

— haaretz.com (@haaretzcom) November 9, 2015

Smiling and happy Obama/Netenyahu vs angry/scowling Obama/Netenyahu. Each used to proffer their own messages devoid of context.

Mind you, the President indicated that while there are disagreements with the Iran deal, both Israel and US agree Iran shouldn’t be allowed to get nukes. It’s the president’s contention that the deal delays Iran getting nukes.

With no deal in place, Iran is far more likely to get a nuclear weapon, since there’s no mechanism in place to know what Iran is doing. With the deal, there’s a mechanism to figure out what they’re doing, to track how they produce nuclear materials, and to figure out what they’re doing with the various enrichment processes. It’s not a perfect deal, but it’s better than nothing at all.

And it was never a US-Iran deal, but the P6+1. Other parties involved helped shape the deal. Israel wasn’t part of the deal, and neither was Saudi Arabia, but both would benefit from Iran not going nuclear (and it’d be more likely Iran goes after Saudi Arabia with nukes than Israel - due to the Sunni-Shi’a religious and regional rivalries rather than going after Israel, particularly since Israel and Iran have far more in common than either would care to admit).

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b_sharp Nov 9, 2015 • 8:49:29am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

Stupid little shitweasel==>

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Little Butthead Shapiro is starting to sound more and more Race Realist/Racist/White Genocide.

His gray matter must be going Porifera.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 8:51:15am

LOLWHUT==>

Media that endlessly painted Obama AS Jesus now going nuts over painting of Ben Carson WITH Jesus. Spare me. pic.twitter.com/Eicohok2n4

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) November 9, 2015

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Lidane Nov 9, 2015 • 8:52:14am

Here’s Carson’s mother in a 1997 profile of the Ben Carson play saying the stabbing incident happened by the way… pic.twitter.com/WifmQsMJlJ

— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) November 9, 2015

Which seems to match Carson saying the stabbing incident occurred but was a relative not a friend. Makes sense his mother would know then.

— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) November 9, 2015

Republicans sure know how to pick a front-runner. Oy.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 8:52:42am

This is my favorite Obama-As-Jesus painting==>

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:52:55am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWHUT==>

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Yeah because there’s no reason at all for Obama to be appearing behind a circular seal. By the way Michelle, Obama did not take those photos, Carson OTOH did have the painting commissioned of him with Jesus Christ but waaaah the media (by the way you’re part of it too).

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b.d. Nov 9, 2015 • 8:54:13am

re: #288 The Vicious Babushka

This is my favorite Obama-As-Jesus painting==>

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Not Jesus but close:

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:54:42am

re: #287 Lidane

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Republicans sure know how to pick a front-runner. Oy.

I dunno how this makes me feel. It definitely doesn’t make me want him to be president either way though.

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Jayleia Nov 9, 2015 • 8:55:30am

I find myself doing my normal stuff and checking back in on this regularly for hours…why?

Fuck if I know.

walfas.org

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 8:56:03am

Kids getting taxpayer money to play football join with coach getting paid $3.1M to oust “white privileged” president https://t.co/0tex5rp1YY

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) November 9, 2015

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Dr. Matt Nov 9, 2015 • 8:56:44am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

Media that endlessly painted Obama AS Jesus…..

This coming from people that literally spend every waking moment worshipping Raygun.

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Lidane Nov 9, 2015 • 8:57:13am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

It must hurt to twist and stretch your personal reality that far.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 8:57:26am

MOAR LOLWHUT==>

Bernie Sanders Loves Genocidal Tyrants https://t.co/tjWKDUFbbM

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) November 9, 2015

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 8:58:12am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

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And if the team were standing up in support of the president’s non-action, Ben would be singing their praises.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 8:58:54am

re: #296 The Vicious Babushka

MOAR LOLWHUT==>

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I’m not going to click but who is Erick claiming that Sanders loves? Oh and Erick, we did have Pat Buchanan from your party who loves Francisco Franco and thinks Churchill was more the bad guy than Hitler in regards to WWII.

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JDRhoades Nov 9, 2015 • 8:59:17am

re: #58 lawhawk

In wingspeak, “Obama wasn’t vetted” means “no one believed all the insane lies we tried so hard to spread.”

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 8:59:49am

*rocks back and forth* 12 more hours…just 12 more hours…

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:00:01am

re: #299 JDRhoades

In wingspeak, “Obama wasn’t vetted” means “no one believed all the insane lies we tried so hard to spread.”

Pretty much.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:00:18am

re: #300 Targetpractice

*rocks back and forth* 12 more hours…just 12 more hours…

Fallout?

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 9:01:06am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

Fallout?

Damn skippy.

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goddamnedfrank Nov 9, 2015 • 9:01:51am

re: #287 Lidane

“I sat him down and told him that you don’t accomplish much by being a bully. You accomplish more with kindness than you ever do by being harsh.”

…

That’s probably when he went after her with a claw hammer.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:01:53am

re: #303 Targetpractice

Damn skippy.

Yeah my kid brother’s going crazy over that. I ordered the special edition for him back in June. Man has gaming changed since I was a teen.

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It's on his hat! Nov 9, 2015 • 9:02:27am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

Fallout?

Yup, same here.

I was weak and watched about 30 seconds of a gameplay video, but I’m better now.

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lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 9:03:21am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

.@benshapiro same kids who make Mizzou millions from tv, sponsorship other deals for their athletic prowess. https://t.co/CRZ5KJLNHp

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 9, 2015

The football program makes the university $35 million versus $21 million in costs. Yeah, I’d say the university comes out ahead on that one.

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 9:03:33am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

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Pretty sure that athletic scholarships aren’t paid for by taxpayers, but by the athletic foundation and NCAA monies.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 9:04:43am

re: #308 Timothy Watson

Pretty sure that athletic scholarships aren’t paid for by taxpayers, but by the athletic foundation and NCAA monies.

He got Mizzou sports scholarships confused with West Point scholarships.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:05:52am

re: #306 It’s on his hat!

Yup, same here.

I was weak and watched about 30 seconds of a gameplay video, but I’m better now.

YEah I notice we havea lot of fans of that series here. I’m a MGS guy. I finally finished Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes. Looking forward to starting Phatom Pain.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 9:08:04am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

YEah I notice we havea lot of fans of that series here. I’m a MGS guy. I finally finished Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes. Looking forward to starting Phatom Pain.

Ah, Phantom Pain, aka “The latest MGS game Kojima swears will be the last he’ll work on.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat Nov 9, 2015 • 9:08:49am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

@benshapiro You reap what you sow, Ben. Oh, sorry, that’s New Testament, which you don’t follow.

— Eric The Fruit Bat (@ericdafruitbat) November 9, 2015

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Mike Lamb Nov 9, 2015 • 9:09:18am

re: #307 lawhawk

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The football program makes the university $35 million versus $21 million in costs. Yeah, I’d say the university comes out ahead on that one.

And the money going to the players probably isn’t even the largest cost for the program.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 9:09:50am

So much rage & butthurt on Twitter today, it must be A Day!

If you’re unconscious, needing to be dragged from a burning building, you want a man. Not a pansexual, gender-fluid affirmative action hire.

— Steven Crowder (@scrowder) November 9, 2015

“OMG, that firefighter was too weak to carry those men to safety!” “Shut up, she’s gender-fluid.”

— Steven Crowder (@scrowder) November 9, 2015

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Dr Lizardo Nov 9, 2015 • 9:11:24am

So, the Christian nutjobs are feeling persecuted and oppressed by Starbucks? And they’re whining about it? It must be a day ending in “-y”.

I know not everyone is a fan of Christmas music - I’m not, personally - but here’s a nice little Christmas ditty we can all enjoy, I think. I played this last year around Christmas for my more advance students who could understand it, and they loved it.

Liveleak Video

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lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 9:11:32am

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

Great message to kids everywhere in today’s @BillBramhall @NYDailyNews cartoon! See at https://t.co/T28K9p9n3F pic.twitter.com/3m8gjJgcND

— FDNY (@FDNY) November 9, 2015

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:11:37am

re: #311 Targetpractice

Ah, Phantom Pain, aka “The latest MGS game Kojima swears will be the last he’ll work on.”

Yeah lol, I am already expecting another. He said Sons of Liberty would 14 years ago. I love the sries though.

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iossarian Nov 9, 2015 • 9:11:54am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

It never ceases to amaze me how quickly the right wing can play the victim card when they get a taste of their own medicine.

BTW, the football team pressure on the Mizzou president is fascinating to me. An ironic side-effect of universities’ resistance to recognizing revenue sport athletes as employees and giving them contracts (which would have prevented them from acting in this way).

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:12:30am

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

So much rage & butthurt on Twitter today, it must be A Day!

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Actually I want the best person for the job and if they happen to be transgendered, so be it. You should meet Kristin Beck, Stevie but she’d kick your sorry ass probably.

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Jayleia Nov 9, 2015 • 9:14:14am

@scrowder I would be wanting someone to rescue me…I WOULDN’T BE CHECKING THEIR PACKAGE TO SEE IF THEY’RE QUALIFIED TO RESCUE ME.

— jay (@random__name) November 9, 2015

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 9:14:33am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Actually I want the best person for the job and if they happen to be transgendered, so be it. You should meet Kristin Beck, Stevie but she’d kick your sorry ass probably.

Yes, we want the best people, they just want the people who fit a certain mold.

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iossarian Nov 9, 2015 • 9:14:36am

I am staying strong. Not clicking on the “read comments” button on the ESPN Missouri President resignation story.

Not doing it.

Nope.

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 9:15:24am

re: #282 Belafon

Quit = Fired. Gotcha.

Forced to quit, actually…for not protecting or taking action to protect his students.

Yeah, this is the sword conservatives want to fall on. Fuck Those People! Who cares if they’re being targeted by racist assholes.

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Mike Lamb Nov 9, 2015 • 9:15:53am

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

So much rage & butthurt on Twitter today, it must be A Day!

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If only there were objective tests that were run to get on to become a fire fighter…

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:16:13am

re: #320 Jayleia

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Seriously what’s with these people? Again DF this is what I was talking about in regards to your ideology. It’s filled with people like this who have hang ups over crap like this and as much as you think it’s not a lot of people, it is. I can say this in good confidence but if I were in a fire and a firefighter who had a Donald Trump for President bumper sticker saved me, I’d be fine with it and think nothing else of it.

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Mike Lamb Nov 9, 2015 • 9:16:33am

re: #322 iossarian

I am staying strong. Not clicking on the “read comments” button on the ESPN Missouri President resignation story.

Not doing it.

Nope.

Your blood pressure thanks you for it.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 9:17:57am

re: #324 Mike Lamb

If only there were objective tests that were run to get on to become a fire fighter…

It’s like the whole bit with allowing female soldiers to fight and join special forces, i.e. the wingnuts don’t care if they can meet the requirements, their misogyny must be appeased by keepin’ the womens in the rear with the gear. Hell, if they could ban women from serving at all, they’d make it happen tomorrow.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 9:18:12am

Because they are not myths, Steven, but most of what you believe about gender, race and economics IS MYTH

If you believe in the gender pay gap myth, the 50% divorce rate myth, and that there were no WMD’s found in Iraq… you’re an Obama voter.

— Steven Crowder (@scrowder) November 9, 2015

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 9:19:05am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

Yeah my kid brother’s going crazy over that. I ordered the special edition for him back in June. Man has gaming changed since I was a teen.

Heh. And, IIRC, you’re about 20 younger than me! My introduction to gaming was a TRS-80.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:19:06am

re: #321 Targetpractice

Yes, we want the best people, they just want the people who fit a certain mold.

Precisely. I mean it’s like the gays in the military argument. I’d much rather a qualified gay man or woman and yes shit for brains like Crowder they do exist in the military over someone like me who would panic in combat.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:19:43am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

Because they are not myths, Steven, but most of what you believe about gender, race and economics IS MYTH

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I think he may be even more ignorant than Shapiro is. Quite a feat.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:20:59am

re: #329 WhatEVs

Heh. And, IIRC, you’re about 20 younger than me! My introduction to gaming was a TRS-80.

It’s hard for me to keep up honestly. My brother just does not get how I do not blaze through games anymore. I told him that he should try being in his late 20’s and get back to me.

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goddamnedfrank Nov 9, 2015 • 9:21:35am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Seriously what’s with these people? Again DF this is what I was talking about in regards to your ideology. It’s filled with people like this who have hang ups over crap like this and as much as you think it’s not a lot of people, it is.

There are so many conservatives that this kind of rhetoric appeals to that the largest cable news network is built entirely around catering to them.

The modern GOP is basically a crypto klukker pile of pig-fucking dogshit. I remember back when WindUpBird was here and said something like that and people were all like “oh man you’ve gone too far!.” But he was right, that’s exactly what the party is now.

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Mike Lamb Nov 9, 2015 • 9:21:38am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

Because they are not myths, Steven, but most of what you believe about gender, race and economics IS MYTH

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What is allegedly mythical about the divorce rate?

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Doofus Nov 9, 2015 • 9:22:17am

Apparently, Tim Wolfe didn’t read Donald Trump’s play book.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 9:22:38am

re: #331 HappyWarrior

I think he may be even more ignorant than Shapiro is. Quite a feat.

Ben Shapiro is not stupid but he panders to the stupid demographic. Crowder is actually very stupid. I wonder who ties his shoes.

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 9:22:50am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

It’s hard for me to keep up honestly. My brother just does not get how I do not blaze through games anymore. I told him that he should try being in his late 20’s and get back to me.

Oy, you’re almost 30 years younger than me. (sigh)

But that’s ok…I think of you as the child I didn’t raise. You’re a good kid. :-)

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 9:23:08am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

Because they are not myths, Steven, but most of what you believe about gender, race and economics IS MYTH

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lolwhut, it’s a myth that 50% of marriages end in divorce? The American Psychological Assocation wants to have a talk with you:

Marriage and divorce are both common experiences. In Western cultures, more than 90 percent of people marry by age 50. Healthy marriages are good for couples’ mental and physical health. They are also good for children; growing up in a happy home protects children from mental, physical, educational and social problems. However, about 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce. The divorce rate for subsequent marriages is even higher.

apa.org

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:23:43am

re: #336 The Vicious Babushka

Ben Shapiro is not stupid but he panders to the stupid demographic. Crowder is actually very stupid. I wonder who ties his shoes.

Sure.

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Belafon Nov 9, 2015 • 9:23:58am

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

So much rage & butthurt on Twitter today, it must be A Day!

I bet he’d want a certain affirmative action hire to do his brain surgery.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:24:01am

re: #337 WhatEVs

Oy, you’re almost 30 years younger than me. (sigh)

But that’s ok…I think of you as the child I didn’t raise. You’re a good kid. :-)

Sorry, sorry heh. Thanks though.

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 9:24:43am

re: #336 The Vicious Babushka

Ben Shapiro is not stupid but he panders to the stupid demographic. Crowder is actually very stupid. I wonder who ties his shoes.

But, but, but Crowder is a first class bizinezz manz (who cannot afford a car).

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:24:56am

re: #333 goddamnedfrank

There are so many conservatives that this kind of rhetoric appeals to that the largest cable news network is built entirely around catering to them.

The modern GOP is basically a crypto klukker pile of pig-fucking dogshit. I remember back when WindUpBird was here and said something like that and people were all like “oh man you’ve gone too far!.” But he was right, that’s exactly what the party is now.

I liked WUB. Hope he’s doing well wherever he is. But yeah that’s pretty much what it is.

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 9:25:36am

re: #338 Timothy Watson

lolwhut, it’s a myth that 50% of marriages end in divorce? The American Psychological Assocation wants to have a talk with you:

apa.org

Forget it…there’s numberz in there. Steve can’t abide no numbers.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Nov 9, 2015 • 9:26:08am

I fixed the Starbucks holiday cups to make them more faith-appropriate. pic.twitter.com/plOrt4vWPM

— Rex Huppke (@RexHuppke) November 9, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 9:26:50am

Twitter Time Cube Lady==>

@theblaze @FoxNews @NBCNews @ABCNetwork @CBSNews @jimmykimmel @NewsmaxTV @WesternDaily @nprpolitics @Stephen_Colbert pic.twitter.com/53yGWCNLZU

— Mary Budesheim (@MaryPatriotNews) November 9, 2015

#SocialJustice #EducationActivism #SOV #SOT #CallitOut #CNN #LGBTQ #lnyhbt #ccw #2a @tgdn #YCOT #PJNET #TCOT #TGDN pic.twitter.com/cffZkCK0vA

— Mary Budesheim (@MaryPatriotNews) November 9, 2015

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 9:26:58am

re: #345 Stanley Sea Toujours

Now those should definitely wind up in the garbage!

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 9:27:55am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

Twitter Time Cube Lady==>

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You know, if she wants to people to read that screed, make it easier to read. And Dinesh D’Sousa. Yeah that’s the guy I want to hear from, /.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 9:28:34am

So what does Steve think the divorce rate really is? Does he believe its higher because its “too easy” to get divorced and we need to go back to the “good ol’ days” when the only way out of a marriage with death? Surely he can’t believe its lower.

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 9:28:56am

” from his perspective, he can’t recall this happened to anyone else.”

—Carson Campaign manager when challenged by Andrea Mitchell when she showed there were hundreds of stories on Obama when he was running.

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 9:29:06am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

- @MaryPatriotNews @tgdn Quoting a convicted criminal shows the appreciation 4 Rule of Law by conservatives; only if it furthers our agenda

— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) November 9, 2015

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Mike Lamb Nov 9, 2015 • 9:29:49am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

Twitter Time Cube Lady==>

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Can someone get her to turn down the volume on her memes please?

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 9:30:01am

re: #350 Jenner7

” from his perspective, he can’t recall this happened to anyone else.”

—Carson Campaign manager when challenged by Andrea Mitchell when she showed there were hundreds of stories on Obama when he was running.

“From his perspective,” translates to “With his head up his own up ass, it’s hard to see the truth.”

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KGxvi Nov 9, 2015 • 9:30:07am

Anyone following what’s going on at the University of Missouri? The president of the university just stepped down. There have been protests about a series of racially motivated incidents over the last year or so. Most recently, over the weekend 30 members of the football team said they would not participate in football activities until the president resigned or was otherwise relieved of his duties.

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Mike Lamb Nov 9, 2015 • 9:30:56am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

I’m also guessing that she doesn’t know much about how market for oil/energy works either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 9:30:58am

BREAKING: @POTUS just launched his Facebook page! Take a walk with him in his backyard at https://t.co/Pq2X1BVaWU. pic.twitter.com/lo5Dc4IeO5

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) November 9, 2015

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Bird in the Paw Nov 9, 2015 • 9:32:26am

re: #300 Targetpractice

*rocks back and forth* 12 more hours…just 12 more hours…

Can’t seem to find a clean one, too lazy to look harder.

Bill Nye waits, too

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KGxvi Nov 9, 2015 • 9:32:30am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

I like this president, but does he (or whoever wrote that post) really think Facebook is a place where we can have an honest conversation about anything?

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sagehen Nov 9, 2015 • 9:33:30am

re: #350 Jenner7

” from his perspective, he can’t recall this happened to anyone else.”

—Carson Campaign manager when challenged by Andrea Mitchell when she showed there were hundreds of stories on Obama when he was running.

Selective amnesia; yet another reason to support Ben Carson.

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Barefoot Grin Nov 9, 2015 • 9:33:47am

Pres. Obama is going to need a full-time staff to keep up with the crazy hate he’ll get on FB. It’ll also be an excellent chance to troll those very same crazies.

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Dr Lizardo Nov 9, 2015 • 9:34:45am

re: #360 Barefoot Grin

Pres. Obama is going to need a full-time staff to keep up with the crazy hate he’ll get on FB. It’ll also be an excellent chance to troll those very same crazies.

Given that it’s FB, I have little doubt the Secret Service is going to be making quite a few arrests in the not-too-distant future.

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Bird in the Paw Nov 9, 2015 • 9:35:13am

re: #329 WhatEVs

Heh. And, IIRC, you’re about 20 younger than me! My introduction to gaming was a TRS-80.

I had a Model III; great games with chunky-pixels.

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Lidane Nov 9, 2015 • 9:35:50am

For some inexplicable reason, Donald Trump is not popular with Latinos. https://t.co/TbaRYDYMDU pic.twitter.com/VYwWo9ma3u

— Bruce Bartlett (@BruceBartlett) November 9, 2015

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GlutenFreeJesus Nov 9, 2015 • 9:36:24am

re: #357 Bird in the Paw

Can’t seem to find a clean one, too lazy to look harder.

Bill Nye waits, too

I’m already pre-loaded. Got a decent deal on the game and season pass on cdkeys.com. I should to to sleep until tonight so I don’t think about the wait! :D

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 9:36:42am

re: #363 Lidane

Well that’s weird…..

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 9:36:45am

re: #349 Targetpractice

So what does Steve think the divorce rate really is? Does he believe its higher because its “too easy” to get divorced and we need to go back to the “good ol’ days” when the only way out of a marriage with death? Surely he can’t believe its lower.

From some of the stuff I am finding online, it might be lower than 50%, but that might be more attributable to people waiting to get married and actually spending more time with someone before marrying, instead of getting married to someone at age 18 (or younger). The 50% figure also seems to date to when no-fault divorce laws were introduced which caused a spike in divorces at that time.

Of course, numbskull Crowder would, of course, be against a couple cohabitating before they got married.

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 9:37:33am

re: #361 Dr Lizardo

Given that it’s FB, I have little doubt the Secret Service is going to be making quite a few arrests in the not-too-distant future.

I am sure that the Secret Service is going to be sending a bunch of digital preservation orders to Facebook shortly.

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Lidane Nov 9, 2015 • 9:37:50am

All the hoo-hah over Starbucks and their Christmas cups has me thinking of this:

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wrenchwench Nov 9, 2015 • 9:38:06am

This could be a big deal in some verrrrrrrrrrrrrry sparsely populated neighborhoods:

Federal lawmakers push for mining reform https://t.co/IxQkEO6rl0 #Navajo #NavajoNation

— Diné Votes (@DineVotes) November 9, 2015

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 9:38:37am

re: #366 Timothy Watson

From some of the stuff I am finding online, it might be lower than 50%, but that might be more attributable to people waiting to get married and actually spending more time with someone before marrying, instead of getting married to someone at age 18 (or younger). The 50% figure also seems to date to when no-fault divorce laws were introduced which caused a spike in divorces at that time.

Of course, numbskull Crowder would, of course, be against a couple cohabitating before they got married.

Of course. Plus, IIRC, Crowder was one of those who boasted that he remained celibate til the day he married that special someone, so I’d no doubt he thinks the breakdown of society goes back to the idea of people fucking without a church’s permission.

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 9:38:51am

re: #368 Lidane

All the hoo-hah over Starbucks and their Christmas cups has me thinking of this:

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Love. That!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Nov 9, 2015 • 9:39:02am

re: #361 Dr Lizardo

Given that it’s FB, I have little doubt the Secret Service is going to be making quite a few arrests in the not-too-distant future.

IT’S A TRAP!!!

////

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 9:39:15am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Honeytrap.

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 9:39:53am

The last time I was obsessed with video games, I was in grade school. I would get up early before school to play Super Mario on my Nintendo. Now we have a Wii and only play the sports games every 6 months. I’m so glad my kids didn’t get into them.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 9:39:58am

re: #369 wrenchwench

This could be a big deal in some verrrrrrrrrrrrrry sparsely populated neighborhoods:

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And now the wingnuts who went nuts over the spill will scream that this is “more job-killing regulations!!!” and demand their pet politicians vote against it, as surely the “free market” will make sure such disasters never happen again.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 9:41:00am

Kevin Swanson defends linking Colorado wildfires to a gay kiss, “the most arrogant insult to Almighty God” https://t.co/NOBx1b0IZZ

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 9, 2015

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Dr Lizardo Nov 9, 2015 • 9:41:08am

re: #372 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

IT’S A TRAP!!!

////

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It's on his hat! Nov 9, 2015 • 9:41:14am

I’m convinced that @MaryPatriotNews, and many Twitter accounts like it, is either a bot or a managed account, and not a real person.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 9:43:27am

re: #378 It’s on his hat!

I’m convinced that @MaryPatriotNews, and many Twitter accounts like it, is either a bot or a managed account, and not a real person.

I suspect that many accounts which only Tweet memes, and retweet responses but never actually respond themselves, are bots.

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 9:43:28am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

Honeytrap.

Yeah, whoever handles digital threats at the Secret Service is probably looking at a promotion when his case clearance numbers skyrocket.

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William Lewis Nov 9, 2015 • 9:43:38am

Saw my first presidential sign over the weekend - out on the Rez.

It was for Bernie.

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wrenchwench Nov 9, 2015 • 9:46:04am

re: #375 Targetpractice

And now the wingnuts who went nuts over the spill will scream that this is “more job-killing regulations!!!” and demand their pet politicians vote against it, as surely the “free market” will make sure such disasters never happen again.

You describe my rep. Thank goodness this state also has a Udall.

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Eventual Carrion Nov 9, 2015 • 9:46:35am

re: #336 The Vicious Babushka

Ben Shapiro is not stupid but he panders to the stupid demographic. Crowder is actually very stupid. I wonder who ties his shoes.

I actually just asked him about his shoes.

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Eventual Carrion Nov 9, 2015 • 9:48:35am

re: #345 Stanley Sea Toujours

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Yes Ben, Jesus loves you. Most everyone else thinks you’re an asshole.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 9:51:31am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
WTF
This is a picture of Hillary and the mother of Michael Brown

VOTE DEMOCRAT:

Because America’s not quite destroyed yet.

#BlackLivesMatter #MikeBrown #OhHillNo #UniteBlue #tcot pic.twitter.com/dHa9mSwaYc

— #MakeDCListen™(R-VA) (@RickCanton) November 8, 2015

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Bird in the Paw Nov 9, 2015 • 9:55:37am

Try to unsee that image, now. Muah haha haha.

Battling T-rex

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 9:55:40am

must be a horror film:

#MakeAMovieEdible Bored of the Pies pic.twitter.com/7k9uiBS8qL

— TripeMarketingBoard (@TripeUK) November 9, 2015

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 9:56:00am

new official @POTUS facebook page already trolling birthers i see pic.twitter.com/zNAdpoeQDr

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) November 9, 2015

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Romantic Heretic Nov 9, 2015 • 9:56:37am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

Because they are not myths, Steven, but most of what you believe about gender, race and economics IS MYTH

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Humans, especially the most tribal ones, prefer mythology. Mythology ‘proves’ their tribe is best.

History, not so much.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 9:57:07am

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

must be a horror film:

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NEVER!

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Romantic Heretic Nov 9, 2015 • 9:57:37am

re: #329 WhatEVs

Heh. And, IIRC, you’re about 20 younger than me! My introduction to gaming was a TRS-80.

Mine was a Hewlett Packard mini computer. I still remember the Star Trek game on that with fondness.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Nov 9, 2015 • 10:01:18am

PharmaBro Martin “$750 a pill” Shkreli of Turing Pharmaceuticals to apply as intern to Sen. Bernie Sanders office.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 10:02:21am

re: #392 Eric The Fruit Bat

PharmaBro Martin “$750 a pill” Shkreli of Turing Pharmaceuticals to apply as intern to Sen. Bernie Sanders office.

They should make him pay $750/day for the internship.

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 9, 2015 • 10:02:38am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

Twitter Time Cube Lady==>

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Remind me never to hire her as a copy editor…or headline writer.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Nov 9, 2015 • 10:02:50am

SeaWorld San Diego closing their KIller Whale show.

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 9, 2015 • 10:03:26am

re: #374 Jenner7

The last time I was obsessed with video games, I was in grade school. I would get up early before school to play Super Mario on my Nintendo. Now we have a Wii and only play the sports games every 6 months. I’m so glad my kids didn’t get into them.

But do they play Candy Crush/Game of War/etc?

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 9, 2015 • 10:03:55am

re: #393 The Vicious Babushka

They should make him pay $750/day for the internship.

They should tell him to hit the fucking bricks.

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Belafon Nov 9, 2015 • 10:04:19am

re: #395 Eric The Fruit Bat

SeaWorld San Diego closing their KIller Whale show.

Wonder if Ben will get outraged the that the Orcas are being fired.

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sagehen Nov 9, 2015 • 10:05:03am

re: #398 Belafon

Wonder if Ben will get outraged the that the Orcas are being fired.

It’s because they’re black, isn’t it?

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Eventual Carrion Nov 9, 2015 • 10:05:43am

re: #363 Lidane

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Rubio surprises me he isn’t higher on that graph.

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Teukka Nov 9, 2015 • 10:07:11am

re: #400 Eventual Carrion

Rubio surprises me he isn’t higher on that graph.

Yeah, me too.

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William Lewis Nov 9, 2015 • 10:08:09am

re: #395 Eric The Fruit Bat

SeaWorld San Diego closing their KIller Whale show.

Finally.

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Big Beautiful Door Nov 9, 2015 • 10:10:01am

re: #363 Lidane

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This is why Trump can’t get elected president, and why I hope the GOP is stupid enough to nominate him.

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 10:10:05am

re: #396 Eclectic Cyborg

Nope. I admit that my son is glued to Youtube, but I find that less objectionable than video games.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 10:11:36am

After endorsement from oil industry, Vitter calls for end to solar tax credits. https://t.co/tSLGphbLwp pic.twitter.com/V6ZFZElVLV

— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) November 9, 2015

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Snarknado! Nov 9, 2015 • 10:12:49am

re: #366 Timothy Watson

From some of the stuff I am finding online, it might be lower than 50%, but that might be more attributable to people waiting to get married and actually spending more time with someone before marrying, instead of getting married to someone at age 18 (or younger). The 50% figure also seems to date to when no-fault divorce laws were introduced which caused a spike in divorces at that time.

Of course, numbskull Crowder would, of course, be against a couple cohabitating before they got married.

It depends on how you’re counting. Overall, something like 50% of marriages end (ended? I haven’t seen recent statistics) in divorce. That’s counting marriage ceremonies (e.g. Liz Taylor had eight).

On the other hand, more than 70% of couples stay married a lifetime (I’ve heard up to 80%, again, no recent statistics). That, of course, is counting people and not ceremonies.

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BeachDem Nov 9, 2015 • 10:13:55am

re: #259 blueraven

I am very happy that the athletes have been able to affect change at Mizzou. But wondering if any other group of students would have had the same power?

Football is big business. Money talks.

Takes me back to “Sports Night” and The Six Southern Gentlemen of Tennessee—an episode where football players refused to play under the Confederate flag.

The Isaac character’s (Robert Guillaume) editorial was classic:

This afternoon, an
extraordinary young man named Roland
Shepard made what had to have been an
excruciating decision. He said he
wasn’t playing football under a
Confederate flag. Six of his teammates
then chose not to let Shepard stand
alone. I don’t know how many people
witnessed this spectacle, but it was a
sight to see. Seven men, the oldest of
them not yet 21 and all of them
knowing full well the potential
consequence of their actions. And I
choose to join them at this moment.
In the history of the South, there’s
much to celebrate. And that flag is a
desecration of all of it. It’s a
banner of hatred and separation. It’s
a banner of ignorance and violence and
a war that pitted brother against
brother, and to ask young black men
and women, young Jewish men and women,
Asians, Native Americans, to ask
Americans to walk beneath its shadow
is a humiliation of irreducable
proportions. And we all know it…

And this aired in 19 fucking 98. Sigh.

(Aaron Sorkin at his “preachy” best!)

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Dr. Matt Nov 9, 2015 • 10:14:28am

Starbucks responds after Christians freak out over alleged anti-Jesus coffee cup

In short, they told RWNJs to suck it….the red cup stays:

A Starbucks representative told E! News: “In response to the video, our core values as a company is to create a culture of belonging, inclusion and diversity. Each year during the holidays we aim to bring our customers an experience that inspires the spirit of the season and we will continue to embrace and welcome customers from all backgrounds and religions in our stores around the world.”

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 10:15:00am

re: #408 Dr. Matt

Starbucks responds after Christians freak out over alleged anti-Jesus coffee cup

In short, they told RWNJs to suck it….the red cup stays:

Good.

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Dr. Matt Nov 9, 2015 • 10:15:44am

Tropical Storm Kate forms in Atlantic

Tropical Storm Kate forms in Atlantic msn.com

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 10:16:08am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

Good.

OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGES!!! Why are Libtards so sensitive and politically correct all the time?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 10:17:41am

re: #408 Dr. Matt

Starbucks responds after Christians freak out over alleged anti-Jesus coffee cup

In short, they told RWNJs to suck it….the red cup stays:

What about ARE values?!?!!? What about Mah Religious Libertee???? First Amendment, Libtard!!!1

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Eventual Carrion Nov 9, 2015 • 10:17:58am

re: #408 Dr. Matt

Starbucks responds after Christians freak out over alleged anti-Jesus coffee cup

In short, they told RWNJs to suck it….the red cup stays:

They should put chained Sharpies at every register and tell people they can draw any damn thing they want on their cup.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 10:20:59am

re: #354 KGxvi

Anyone following what’s going on at the University of Missouri? The president of the university just stepped down. There have been protests about a series of racially motivated incidents over the last year or so. Most recently, over the weekend 30 members of the football team said they would not participate in football activities until the president resigned or was otherwise relieved of his duties.

One of the characters on my college football Twitter list has been derping all morning about this. Gonna say buh bye to that one.

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 10:21:35am

Breaking: Chris Christie vetoes automatic voter registration bill in New Jersey. Could’ve added 1.6 million new voters to rolls

— Ari Berman (@AriBerman) November 9, 2015

As Bernie pointed out…cowards.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 10:21:40am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

Twitter Time Cube Lady==>

Ah, a Troubled Heart.

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 9, 2015 • 10:21:48am

re: #408 Dr. Matt

Joshua Feuerstein — a former pastor who calls himself a “social media personality” — posted a video on Facebook last week, criticizing Starbucks for removing “Christmas from their cups because they hate Jesus.”

In an email to CNNMoney Sunday, Feuerstein noted that his video has had more than 10 million views.

“I think Starbucks has gotten the message that the Christian majority in this country has awakened and are demanding that our voice be heard,” Feuerstein reportedly wrote.

The video was shared more than 440,000 times and #MerryChristamasStarbucks trended on Facebook throughout the weekend. However, some social media users defended the coffee company for their cups.

SMH

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 9, 2015 • 10:22:37am

Has anyone coined the term “Social Media Whore” yet?

If not, I’m calling dibs.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 10:22:44am

re: #415 Jenner7

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As Bernie pointed out…cowards.

Because making voting as difficult as possible weeds out all but the diehards, who the GOP has in droves because they’d crawl over broken glass and red hot coals to keep a Democrat out of office.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 10:23:06am

re: #417 Eclectic Cyborg

SMH

MAH VIDEO ON THE INTERNET TUBE HAS 1 MILLIONS VIEWS!!!! THAT MAKES ME VALIDATED!!!!1

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 10:23:06am

re: #418 Eclectic Cyborg

Has anyone coined the term “Social Media Whore” yet?

If not, I’m calling dibs.

Band Name!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 10:23:51am

re: #417 Eclectic Cyborg

SMH

Fired from preaching job, man turns to burgeoning new field of Social Media Personality.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 10:23:52am

re: #417 Eclectic Cyborg

SMH

Someone should ask Josh why he wants to put Jesus in the trash because that’s where these cups are going. My god these people are pathetic.

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Eventual Carrion Nov 9, 2015 • 10:24:06am

re: #416 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Ah, a Troubled Heart.

And troubled mind.

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Dr. Matt Nov 9, 2015 • 10:24:32am

Starbucks could be making a YOOOGE mistake though. We know that once RWNJs start a nationwide boycott, it’s usually a demise of a product. The list is long: Monday Night Football, The Gap, Kellogg’s, Google, Apple, Disney, and Home Depot to name a few. We never, EVER hear about these products/companies anymore. Amazing.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 10:24:37am

re: #415 Jenner7

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As Bernie pointed out…cowards.

He knows how fucked his party he is if more people are registered to vote.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 10:25:03am

re: #425 Dr. Matt

Starbucks could be making a YOOOGE mistake though. We know that once RWNJs start a nationwide boycott, it’s usually a demise of a product. The list is long: Monday Night Football, The Gap, Kellogg’s, Google, Apple, Disney, and Home Depot to name a few. We never, EVER hear about these products/companies anymore. Amazing.

JCPenney. //

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Kragar Nov 9, 2015 • 10:25:57am

re: #38 Bird in the Paw

Because I don’t read about games until I have to (stuck; interwebs, plx to help) does this trailer imply that our main is quite customizable? All the stuff from E3 and up to the trailer was a male as the PC. RPGs feel, … odd … to me, playing as a guy.

Yup, you can play as male or female. You’ve always had that choice in the Fallout series.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 10:26:10am

re: #425 Dr. Matt

Starbucks could be making a YOOOGE mistake though. We know that once RWNJs start a nationwide boycott, it’s usually a demise of a product. The list is long: Monday Night Football, The Gap, Kellogg’s, Google, Apple, Disney, and Home Depot to name a few. We never, EVER hear about these products/companies anymore. Amazing.

RWNJ boycotts have never failed. They have only been failed.

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wrenchwench Nov 9, 2015 • 10:27:40am

A @Playboy Conversation with @FrankWaln, the Bob Marley of the Lakota: https://t.co/CvzsiXhHAL pic.twitter.com/VLS8SNEyXp

— For the Articles… (@4thearticles) November 9, 2015

(Not ‘the interview’, but there are overlaps:)

Originals First - OF: Frank Waln at the Field Museum of Natural History [HD]

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Kragar Nov 9, 2015 • 10:28:00am

re: #429 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

RWNJ boycotts have never failed. They have only been failed.

/

The only reason they fail is because they’re not Conservative enough.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 10:28:13am

re: #428 Kragar

Yup, you can play as male or female. You’ve always had that choice in the Fallout series.

Yep, but FO4 adds the ability to customize both in the same game, so even if you play male, you can make your wife look however you like. And the baby in the intro sequence is generated based off the look of the male and female PCs, which seems to be way too much work spent on something that only shows up in the intro.

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Tigger2005 Nov 9, 2015 • 10:29:18am

Sackcloth and ashes with cow manure spread all over his body? So, he’s just showing up in his usual attire?

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 9, 2015 • 10:29:57am

This Joshua Feuerstein guy is also the same guy featured in this story:

Gun toting evangelist attacks boy with doll video by having his kids shoot guns

Earlier this week, a dad took to Facebook and posted a video that showed his reaction to when his son picked out a doll. And like any good parent should, he reacted with excitement and joy, because his son was very excited to have his new toy. Who cares that it was a doll?

Well, one guy did. One seemingly very insecure, over-compensating guy whose machismo made him make one of the most bizarre videos ever made on the topic of gender neutral toys.

Joshua Feuerstein, a self-described former television and radio evangelist, took to his own Facebook page and went after the dad who had the audacity to let a child pick a toy that he’d like to play with. Not Feuerstein’s boy though, that’s not acceptable. No son of his is going to play with dolls. He’s literally putting down the other dad for letting his son express who he wants to be. God forbid, the kid turn out to be well-balanced and confident in his own skin, Feuerstein wants his kids to be the little clay puppets he creates them to be.

How does he plan on going about molding his children? By teaching his kids to use his version of gender neutral toys — guns. Yes, he just said guns are toys. What a responsible gun owner and dad he is.

How are they gender neutral? Well, he’s not only going to let his very young son shoot the gun, but also his very young daughters. The video even shows his son holding the gun and firing it at a target.

These are the kind of people Jesus tossed out of the temple.

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Kragar Nov 9, 2015 • 10:29:58am

re: #432 Targetpractice

Yep, but FO4 adds the ability to customize both in the same game, so even if you play male, you can make your wife look however you like. And the baby in the intro sequence is generated based off the look of the male and female PCs, which seems to be way too much work spent on something that only shows up in the intro.

So far…

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 10:31:33am

re: #434 Eclectic Cyborg

This Joshua Feuerstein guy is also the same guy featured in this story:

Gun toting evangelist attacks boy with doll video by having his kids shoot guns

These are the kind of people Jesus tossed out of the temple.

He seems normal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 10:32:33am

My cat is sad because he has very serious concerns about his Internet privacy. pic.twitter.com/NSmGKbVSNE

— WHY MY CAT IS SAD (@MYSADCAT) November 9, 2015

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 10:32:53am

re: #434 Eclectic Cyborg

My surprised face. Here it is….

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 10:32:57am

re: #435 Kragar

So far…

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Bethesda’s hinting pretty hard that you’re not the only person who walked out of Vault 111.

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b.d. Nov 9, 2015 • 10:33:09am

re: #425 Dr. Matt

Starbucks could be making a YOOOGE mistake though. We know that once RWNJs start a nationwide boycott, it’s usually a demise of a product. The list is long: Monday Night Football, The Gap, Kellogg’s, Google, Apple, Disney, and Home Depot to name a few. We never, EVER hear about these products/companies anymore. Amazing.

Don’t those stupid bagger wingnuts know that they already ARE boycotting Starbucks?

They are already boycotting them because they support the right to marry

dumpstarbucks.com

They are also are boycotting Starbucks because they won’t let you bring in your gun while you order coffee
google.com

The baggers are also boycotting Starbucks because they hate the troops somehow;

world4justice.wordpress.com

I am sure there are many more but the point is, why are they still going there?

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It's on his hat! Nov 9, 2015 • 10:33:31am

Political correctness: Is there anything we can’t blame it for?

thinkprogress.org

I think Carson may have just bested Palin for the World Champion Word Salad title belt.

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blueraven Nov 9, 2015 • 10:33:35am

Oh FFS!

Another Kiselyov trial balloon for the quasi-official Russian line, this time on the Egypt plane crash? https://t.co/CC3gC6e6pv

— Max Fisher (@Max_Fisher) November 9, 2015

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 10:33:43am

re: #440 b.d.

Yeah but they really mean it this time.

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Lidane Nov 9, 2015 • 10:34:06am

In which I point out to the morans that “Hispanic” and “Latino” are ethnic identities, not races:

#Texas troopers identify many #Hispanics as white, casting doubt on racial profiling data https://t.co/yY7YZBVkFS pic.twitter.com/YDRO2DTZrw

— Fox News Latino (@foxnewslatino) November 9, 2015

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 10:34:46am

re: #442 blueraven

Oh FFS!

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Seems Putin’s really dead-set on reviving the Cold War.

Comrade Stalin would be so proud.////

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Jenner7 Nov 9, 2015 • 10:35:01am

re: #442 blueraven

Has GG or Snowden retweeted this yet??

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It's on his hat! Nov 9, 2015 • 10:35:02am

re: #439 Targetpractice

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Bethesda’s hinting pretty hard that you’re not the only person who walked out of Vault 111.

And if others did… when did they do so?

It’s going to be a long 10 hours…

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 10:36:16am

re: #441 It’s on his hat!

Political correctness: Is there anything we can’t blame it for?

thinkprogress.org

I think Carson may have just bested Palin for the World Champion Word Salad title belt.

Okay as someone who had a close family member OD on Heroin. Carson can shut the fuck up about political correctness. PC has nothing to do with drug abuse and I am tired of conservatives like him blaming all of society’s ills on PC.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 10:36:24am

re: #447 It’s on his hat!

And if others did… when did they do so?

It’s going to be a long 10 hours…

No kidding. I haven’t been this stoked about a game released since Mass Effect 3.

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Kragar Nov 9, 2015 • 10:37:17am

re: #444 Lidane

Someone let Fox know that if you’re choosing not to stop people because they don’t look Hispanic, then you’re still racial profiling them.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 10:37:23am

re: #444 Lidane

In which I point out to the morans that “Hispanic” and “Latino” are ethnic identities, not races:

[Embedded content]

Indeed.

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 10:37:32am

re: #440 b.d.

Don’t those stupid bagger wingnuts know that they already ARE boycotting Starbucks?

They are already boycotting them because they support the right to marry

dumpstarbucks.com

They are also are boycotting Starbucks because they won’t let you bring in your gun while you order coffee
google.com

The baggers are also boycotting Starbucks because they hate the troops somehow;

world4justice.wordpress.com

I am sure there are many more but the point is, why are they still going there?

Out of curiosity, what are the demographics for Starbucks customers? I have a stereotypical image in my head, but how many Starbucks customers do they really think give a rat’s ass about any of this?

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Eventual Carrion Nov 9, 2015 • 10:37:47am

re: #442 blueraven

Oh FFS!

[Embedded content]

We also have Vlad’s bathroom bugged and recording his BM’s. He will be so embarrassed when we put it out on the new presidential Facebook.

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 10:38:19am

re: #449 Targetpractice

No kidding. I haven’t been this stoked about a game released since Mass Effect 3.

And we all know how that turned out.

*ducks*

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Kragar Nov 9, 2015 • 10:38:27am

re: #447 It’s on his hat!

And if others did… when did they do so?

It’s going to be a long 10 hours…

Cryosleep is a hell of a thing.

I was actually thinking the character might be a synth with implanted memories.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 10:38:58am

re: #454 Timothy Watson

And we all know how that turned out.

*ducks*

Hey now, it was a great game…until the last 10 minutes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 10:39:34am

They might want to consider using a different font next time. pic.twitter.com/L6XLjKrdxY

— Michael Clarke (@Mr_Mike_Clarke) November 8, 2015

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It's on his hat! Nov 9, 2015 • 10:39:47am

re: #455 Kragar

Cryosleep is a hell of a thing.

I was actually thinking the character might be a synth with implanted memories.

That’s one theory that’s floating around. Not sure I buy it yet…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 10:40:17am

Palin had higher SNL ratings than #Trump. Look where that got her.

— GottaLaff (@GottaLaff) November 9, 2015

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 10:41:21am

re: #455 Kragar

Cryosleep is a hell of a thing.

I was actually thinking the character might be a synth with implanted memories.

“Would you risk your own life for your fellow man, even if that man is a synth?”

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lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 10:43:12am

.@HuffPostPol what part of no religious test does @tedcruz not understand? Oh wait, he’s engaging in pandering 101.

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 9, 2015

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 10:43:27am

re: #452 Timothy Watson

Out of curiosity, what are the demographics for Starbucks customers? I have a stereotypical image in my head, but how many Starbucks customers do they really think give a rat’s ass about any of this?

As a Starbucks customer, I can tell you what would keep me out of their stores: allowing people to carry guns into their establishment.

I no longer go into Krogers. I will not shop in a place that asks for gun violence and allowing every Tom, Dick or Harry to carry a gun into an establishment means I won’t go in. This is non-negotiable.

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Kragar Nov 9, 2015 • 10:43:44am

And now we add another item to the “Microsoft is dumb” list:

#RiseOfTheTombRaider: Why is @Microsofts timed exclusive released same day as @Fallout 4? https://t.co/Pjbj4S2sWb pic.twitter.com/JCbEdrr2Nj

— CRAVE (@CraveOnline) November 9, 2015

Microsoft has paid out what can safely assume was a large amount of money to Square Enix in order to snag the timed exclusivity right to Rise of the Tomb Raider, but here’s where things get more than a little dumb: the game was given the release date of November 10th, 2015. That’s tomorrow, and is coincidentally the same date that Fallout 4 will be released, a hugely anticipated follow-up to one of the most popular games of all time. Rise of the Tomb Raider doesn’t have a chance of toppling Bethesda’s post-apocalyptic RPG, and if Rise of the Tomb Raider wasn’t a well-reviewed game that was the subject of a major exclusivity deal, then we’d all suggest that it had been sent out to die.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 10:45:20am

re: #461 lawhawk

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Better an atheist than a Theocratic dick like you Ted.

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Tigger2 Nov 9, 2015 • 10:45:50am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

Because they are not myths, Steven, but most of what you believe about gender, race and economics IS MYTH

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If you believe those things it means you are intelligent and not a FOX viewer.

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Stuff Happens Nov 9, 2015 • 10:46:08am

re: #452 Timothy Watson

Out of curiosity, what are the demographics for Starbucks customers? I have a stereotypical image in my head, but how many Starbucks customers do they really think give a rat’s ass about any of this?

It’s a “double secret” boycott. This is like a regular boycott that has more cowbell and been turned up to 11.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 10:46:20am

Poor Ben haz teh sadz.

Words cannot express how much the left blows. https://t.co/0tex5rp1YY

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) November 9, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 10:46:49am

I boycott Starbucks because their coffee sucks.

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 10:47:36am

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

Poor Ben haz teh sadz.

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Good.

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Romantic Heretic Nov 9, 2015 • 10:47:47am

re: #442 blueraven

Oh FFS!

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No wonder the wingnuts like Putin so much. They’re both such huge fans of ~~deflection~~ personal responsibility.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 10:47:54am

re: #463 Kragar

And now we add another item to the “Microsoft is dumb” list:

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Blizzard’s also releasing “Legacy of the Void” tomorrow as well. And considering SC2 is one of its cash cows next to WoW, you’d be left to wonder if some execs there and at Microsoft set these release dates in stone…and then watched in horror as Bethesda announced Fallout 4 for the exact same day.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 10:47:56am

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

Poor Ben haz teh sadz.

This is pretty much every tweet by Baby Ben.

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WhatEVs Nov 9, 2015 • 10:48:12am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

I boycott Starbucks because their coffee sucks.

But their coffee shakes (otherwise known as Frappacinos) are divine!

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Kragar Nov 9, 2015 • 10:48:57am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

I boycott Starbucks because their coffee sucks.

To humor my wife and kids, I tried a sip of coffee last night.

This would be my second attempt to drink coffee. Based on my current schedule, I can expect my third attempt to be in roughly 21 years.

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Romantic Heretic Nov 9, 2015 • 10:49:36am

re: #448 HappyWarrior

Okay as someone who had a close family member OD on Heroin. Carson can shut the fuck up about political correctness. PC has nothing to do with drug abuse and I am tired of conservatives like him blaming all of society’s ills on PC.

I’ll note yet again that when loons like Carson bleat about political correctness they’re actually whining it’s not their type of political correctness.

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ObserverArt Nov 9, 2015 • 10:50:02am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

Baby needs his bottle again and diaper changed.

Is it okay if we stuff the diaper in his mouth and plug the bottle in his butt? Seems it would be more effective for a guy like Ben Shapiro.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Nov 9, 2015 • 10:50:49am

re: #475 Romantic Heretic

I’ll note yet again that when loons like Carson bleat about political correctness they’re actually whining it’s not their type of political correctness.

WHY WONT STARBUCKS COFFEE PLACE I NEVER GO TO DONT PUT BABY JESUS ON COFFEE CUPS???? WAR ON CHRISTMAS AND CHRISTIANS!!!

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b.d. Nov 9, 2015 • 10:50:57am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

I boycott Starbucks because their coffee sucks.

I may start going there because they seem to do a lot of things that I agree with that drive the baggers further nutzo

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Romantic Heretic Nov 9, 2015 • 10:51:48am

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

Words cannot express how much the right sucks, Ben.

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Timothy Watson Nov 9, 2015 • 10:52:16am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

I boycott Starbucks because their coffee sucks.

I’ve never had Starbucks actually, but I think that’s because of my contrarian nature. I usually go to Wawa if I need coffee.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 10:52:19am

re: #476 ObserverArt

Is it okay if we stuff the diaper in his mouth and plug the bottle in his butt? Seems it would be more effective for a guy like Ben Shapiro.

He might like it too much…

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Stuff Happens Nov 9, 2015 • 10:52:19am

re: #478 b.d.

I may start going there because they seem to do a lot of things that I agree with that drive the baggers further nutzo

I drink tea. It’s Ok at Starbucks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 10:53:20am

I don’t think there is a Starbucks within 100 miles of me.

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Targetpractice Nov 9, 2015 • 10:53:40am

I don’t drink coffee at Starbucks for the simple reason that I rarely drink coffee, and when I do it’s either at home or at work.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 9, 2015 • 10:53:47am

re: #480 Timothy Watson

I’ve never had Starbucks actually, but I think that’s because of my contrarian nature. I usually go to Wawa if I need coffee.

Why would anyone go anywhere else if there is a Wawa?

BEST.
COFFEE.
EVER.

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piratedan Nov 9, 2015 • 10:53:58am

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

yeah, like anyone on the right swallows….

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Romantic Heretic Nov 9, 2015 • 10:54:59am

re: #486 piratedan

You win the internet.

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HappyWarrior Nov 9, 2015 • 10:55:08am

In the past, it seemed the mixing of religion with secular culture bothered fundies. Now everything including a coffee company whose CEO btw is Jewish bothers tem.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 9, 2015 • 10:55:52am

.@starbucks please bring back your celebratory special edition Pagan Harvest Blood Orgy cups from the 8th century

— Turkey Lozenge™ (@LostCatDog) November 9, 2015

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William Lewis Nov 9, 2015 • 10:56:57am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

I boycott Starbucks because their coffee sucks.

Amen.

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Decatur Deb Nov 9, 2015 • 10:59:08am

re: #440 b.d.

Don’t those stupid bagger wingnuts know that they already ARE boycotting Starbucks?

They are already boycotting them because they support the right to marry

dumpstarbucks.com

They are also are boycotting Starbucks because they won’t let you bring in your gun while you order coffee
google.com

The baggers are also boycotting Starbucks because they hate the troops somehow;

world4justice.wordpress.com

I am sure there are many more but the point is, why are they still going there?

This is a double-secret boycott.

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wrenchwench Nov 9, 2015 • 10:59:09am

re: #482 Stuff Happens

I drink tea. It’s Ok at Starbucks.

When they first started doing tea (had to be before 1995, because that’s when I last lived within 100 miles of one) they offered to give me another cup using the same teabag, and I was as horrified as if they had offered to use coffee grounds a second time for a customer.

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Bird in the Paw Nov 9, 2015 • 11:19:55am

re: #441 It’s on his hat!

Political correctness: Is there anything we can’t blame it for?

thinkprogress.org

I think Carson may have just bested Palin for the World Champion Word Salad title belt.

This coming from a person who should, theoretically, know something about central nervous system biochemistry; yeah, we know that cutters are stupid about physiology, but he’s a neurologist, FFS. This is really damaging to the addiction community in general and addicts in particular to propagate the moral deficiency myth that has been debunked for many, many, decades.

It also point directly (yet again) at his religious convictions subjugating the reality that is fact and evidence based science. He is a scary individual.

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Nojay UK Nov 9, 2015 • 11:30:45am

re: #471 Targetpractice

Blizzard’s also releasing “Legacy of the Void” tomorrow as well. And considering SC2 is one of its cash cows next to WoW, you’d be left to wonder if some execs there and at Microsoft set these release dates in stone…and then watched in horror as Bethesda announced Fallout 4 for the exact same day.

Early November is a regular release period for a lot of top-rated games and especially eagerly-awaited followups. Last November was Call of Duty and Assassin’s Creed, year before that was FIFA and a couple of other AAA titles. Theories abound on the reasoning for this timing; it’s after Hallowe’en but before Thanksgiving and Black Friday and well before Christmas, dates where loose cash will be sucked up by Other Things than games.

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lawhawk Nov 9, 2015 • 11:58:27am

re: #480 Timothy Watson

I’ve never had Starbucks actually, but I think that’s because of my contrarian nature. I usually go to Wawa if I need coffee.

I can usually get 3 Wawa cups of coffee for the price of a single cup at Starbucks.
Wawa > Starbucks

I can usually get 3 cups of Dunkin Donuts for the price of 2 at Starbucks. D’nD > Starbucks

Local chains are usually comparable to Starbucks. But the quality still favors the local chains.

The only place where the price actually matches the quality? Seattle.

But I still don’t get why anyone thinks that the red cup is a sign that Starbucks has declared war on Christmas. It’s not even frickin’ half past pumpkin spice latte, and we’re already into mint season.

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Jebediah, RBG Nov 9, 2015 • 3:15:25pm

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

Ben Shapiro: “Racism today, racism tomorruh, racism FOREVA!”

Spy Auto

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