The Night We Waited For. Now What?

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A few thoughts at the end of this glorious day.

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William Lewis  Nov 7, 2020 • 9:48:39pm

First count of the indictment: Crimes against Humanity…

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 9:50:23pm

We might not need to be as emotionally invested in most of the next four years, but the next presidential election determines how stable we are going to be. Switching back to the GOP will basically indicate that we’re not going to be a stable country to deal with.

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makeitstop  Nov 7, 2020 • 9:50:29pm

I approve this message.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 7, 2020 • 9:51:49pm

We just can’t act like the past four years didn’t happen. As VP Elect Harris said echoing Rep Lewis, Democracy is fragile.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 7, 2020 • 9:52:18pm

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 9:54:30pm

I know someone posted the percentages, but here’s how the Native American vote really helped in Arizona:

And this is great, because my coworker was complaining about Arizona voting for Biden.

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terraincognita  Nov 7, 2020 • 9:54:44pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I really think I see the difference here. Spiro is gay. Am I right?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 7, 2020 • 9:57:19pm

re: #6 Belafon

I know someone posted the percentages, but here’s how the Native American vote really helped in Arizona:

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And this is great, because my coworker was complaining about Arizona voting for Biden.

Obviously I can’t expect the same thing in Alaska but I wonder if that Native American vote count signals some hope for the Alaska Senate race.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 7, 2020 • 9:58:02pm

A glorious day indeed. Good night Lizards.

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gwangung  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:01:21pm

re: #8 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Obviously I can’t expect the same thing in Alaska but I wonder if that Native American vote count signals some hope for the Alaska Senate race.

No. Completely different tribes and completely different organizing groups.

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Jack Burton  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:04:29pm

Until the electoral college vote is certified or one of the clowns in the GOP talks Clownstick into walking away with a little bit of dignity, I’m not celebrating too much.

I still see too many futures that involve a civil war or trying to escape to Canada.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:04:57pm

re: #10 gwangung

No. Completely different tribes and completely different organizing groups.

Ah ok. That’s what I thought. That turnout is amazing. I knew Navajo country had been hard hit but damn.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:08:30pm

re: #11 Jack Burton

Until the electoral college vote is certified or one of the clowns in the GOP talks Clownstick into walking away with a little bit of dignity, I’m not celebrating too much.

I still see too many futures that involve a civil war or trying to escape to Canada.

I don’t see a civil war. We have a lot of tension in this country, but it’s not at the level of ending slavery. I would be more worried had Trump gotten reelected, because Trump and Barr were more than willing to go after political opponents and I think people would have retaliated for arresting Obama, Clinton, and Biden.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:10:27pm

I caught the opening of Brian Williams, and I thought this was good: “On Monday Biden is going to announce his Coronavirus task force, an ACTUAL Coronavirus task force.”

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Varek Raith  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:11:41pm

Geezus, someone detonated what sounded like a bomb.
WTF kind of fireworks are they using?!

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Jack Burton  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:11:42pm

re: #14 Belafon

I caught the opening of Brian Williams, and I thought this was good: “On Monday Biden is going to announce his Coronavirus task force, an ACTUAL Coronavirus task force.”

I thought he already did.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:13:23pm
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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:14:09pm
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Jack Burton  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:15:02pm

re: #6 Belafon

I know someone posted the percentages, but here’s how the Native American vote really helped in Arizona:

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And this is great, because my coworker was complaining about Arizona voting for Biden.

BTW: Yá’át’ééh is how you say hello in Diné bizaad (Navajo Language). It’s like Aloha in that it’s also used as a farewell, so it makes sense in this context.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:16:04pm

The problem i have with the internet is that there’s so much worth seeing:

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:17:49pm

Edit: neither of these most likely had nothing to do with the election, but more about local things, though there were small celebrations, but I do think its pretty wild that there were celebrations at all in other countries.

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NetworkKed  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:18:16pm

I’m not surprised about native americans going super anti-Trump. There have been some truly incredible steps taken by the admin against native populations. It hasn’t gotten a lot of coverage, because native issues never do in this country, but it’s reached mortal-enemy levels.

…which is no surprise - this administration has been brutal with non-whites that fall under their direct power.

I don’t know how the Alaska populations are distributed, but with so many votes out we can dream.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:20:53pm

re: #22 NetworkKed

It’s worth noting that not every Native American group has gone anti-Trump. There’s at least one tribe in NC that went for Trump in this election, likely tied to anti-Black sentiment.

They’re not a monolith any more than any other multi-faceted ethnic group. See, say, Cubans in FL.

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Varek Raith  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:21:40pm

I’m going to be re-following you all on my main twitter again. Managing two accounts isn’t working out (IE, lazy).

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NetworkKed  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:24:47pm

re: #23 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Fair enough. And obviously the groups have widely assorted histories, but I’d assume some general commonality of reaction to a government inclined to act against them.

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gwangung  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:25:12pm

re: #22 NetworkKed

I’m not surprised about native americans going super anti-Trump. There have been some truly incredible steps taken by the admin against native populations. It hasn’t gotten a lot of coverage, because native issues never do in this country, but it’s reached mortal-enemy levels.

…which is no surprise - this administration has been brutal with non-whites that fall under their direct power.

I don’t know how the Alaska populations are distributed, but with so many votes out we can dream.

The problem is the vast geographic isolation and dispersion of the Alaskan native population…and there’s not a lot of funding to support that.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:26:28pm

I’m curious if Biden can do this:

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:28:22pm

re: #27 Belafon

every single EO will be challenged in court.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:39:37pm

re: #28 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

every single EO will be challenged in court.

I’m pretty sure the number of times Biden goes to the bathroom will be challenged in court, but I’m just curious if he can.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:39:45pm

This is how I feel:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:40:47pm
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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:41:06pm

Just saw that Merkel congratulated Biden, but with a statement, not a tweet.

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EPR-radar  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:42:02pm

re: #28 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

every single EO will be challenged in court.

And unfortunately, nearly all of the challenges will succeed. These won’t be Trump clown-lawyers making the arguments. Instead the arguments will come from real lawyers who know how to make arguments that partisan R judges will accept.

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Jack Burton  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:45:14pm

re: #33 EPR-radar

And unfortunately, nearly all of the challenges will succeed. These won’t be Trump clown-lawyers making the arguments. Instead the arguments will come from real lawyers who know how to make arguments that partisan R judges will accept.

Who would take some of these EOs to court? Doesn’t there have to be an injured party beyond “The Government is doing unconstitutional crap” while I’m a citizen? If that’s the bar, I want to take the GOP to court right now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:48:34pm

SNL’s Opening - CNN Election Night 11/08/20 | Saturday Night Live October 08, 2020

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EPR-radar  Nov 7, 2020 • 10:49:25pm

re: #34 Jack Burton

Who would take some of these EOs to court? Doesn’t there have to be an injured party beyond “The Government is doing unconstitutional crap” while I’m a citizen? If that’s the bar, I want to take the GOP to court right now.

The Senate would be the likeliest plaintiff on the grounds that overly ambitious executive orders infringe on prerogative of Congress.

As used by Republicans it’s a shitty bad faith argument because everything from Republicans is axiomatically bad faith. But it will get them into court, and then the R judges can do their thing.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2020 • 11:03:22pm

I caught something interesting that I think Biden probably knows how to use to his advantage. He can easily be seen as a working class person, folksy, and down to earth. I think it could end up being easy for him to portray the GOP as attacking working Americans by attacking him.

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2020 • 11:05:06pm

re: #29 Belafon

I’m pretty sure the number of times Biden goes to the bathroom will be challenged in court, but I’m just curious if he can.

Depends on the basis for the EO, most likely. And of course, Republicans challenging the EOs will have to argue against the precedent Trump set, which’ll be fun

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EPR-radar  Nov 7, 2020 • 11:09:56pm

re: #38 KGxvi

Depends on the basis for the EO, most likely. And of course, Republicans challenging the EOs will have to argue against the precedent Trump set, which’ll be fun

That why the effective GOP lawyers make the big bucks. Rudy’s clown show disappears with Trump.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2020 • 11:10:25pm
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piratedan  Nov 7, 2020 • 11:11:36pm

re: #38 KGxvi

they may resort to the Tucker Carlson argument, no sane person would take those Trump tweets seriously, so there’s no need to take his EO’s off the books… a bold strategy indeed.

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DesertDenizen  Nov 7, 2020 • 11:26:06pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

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I love Alex Hirsch! I can hear Zoos in that call! I want to hear him to Grunkle Stan next.

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BigPapa  Nov 7, 2020 • 11:30:04pm
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Bossnova1978  Nov 7, 2020 • 11:32:58pm

re: #35 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I have to say busting out the Ace Ventura at the end there was a fantastic callback to my high school days on an already great day.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 7, 2020 • 11:53:41pm

Tropical storm Eta is off Cuba’s southern coast, about to make another turn, to the north and then to the west.

It is a determined storm, surviving against an onslaught of cold dry air.

Probably will hit Florida twice.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:01:23am

mood

LITTLE BIG - S*ck My D*ck 2020 (Official Music Video)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:08:00am

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Scarlatti : Sonate pour clavecin en ré mineur K 517 L 266, par Carole Cerasi - #Scarlatti555

..

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:09:09am

Those GA votes are real determined and just keep trickling in. Biden’s lead there is over 10k now.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:11:32am

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hey, how have you been?

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:12:20am

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Those GA votes are real determined and just keep trickling in. Biden’s lead there is over 10k now.

I enjoy the thought of how Newt Gingrich must be feeling about that.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:12:38am

We need to convene a Truth & Reconciliation commission to investigate and recommend prosecutions for the various crimes of Fuckface Von Clownstick and the Flying Monkeys of his administration. There’s no walking past this, looking forward or moving on, fuck no.

I came down the hallway earlier today, saw “Biden Wins!” on the TV and have been spiritually doing the Snoopy dance ever since. I feel like a ton of weight has been lifted from my shoulders and I’ve been nothing but laughing and smiles, as has been my wife and our kids. We have a long battle ahead of us but it’s nice to savor the moment and our tremendous win.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:15:13am

re: #49 Nyet

We’re muddling along okay here. Some health issues (not COVID so far, at least), but nothing too major. I pretend to have goals for the year but at this point it has boiled down to “finish the first draft of this damn book” and also hopefully “get Christmas presents sent off in time because we sure as fuck aren’t travelling anytime soon.”

I hope things are mostly going well for you and yours - at least as well as 2020 can go for anyone.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:16:11am

So I see even Bibi has congratulated Joe and Kamala.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:16:55am

re: #50 EPR-radar

I enjoy the thought of how Newt Gingrich must be feeling about that.

I was really pleased when the lead hit 4k, so 10k is like holy crap territory.

We will not be sending mr. klys’s aunt any congratulations on this topic, but I happen to know her one granddaughter at least is quite pleased by it, so the whole family isn’t lost.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:17:25am

re: #52 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We’re muddling along okay here. Some health issues (not COVID so far, at least), but nothing too major. I pretend to have goals for the year but at this point it has boiled down to “finish the first draft of this damn book” and also hopefully “get Christmas presents sent off in time because we sure as fuck aren’t travelling anytime soon.”

I hope things are mostly going well for you and yours - at least as well as 2020 can go for anyone.

Yeah, relatively ok (despite living in the middle of a Corona hotspot…). Certainly not as much stress as in the spring. You get used to it, I guess.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:18:08am

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Those GA votes are real determined and just keep trickling in. Biden’s lead there is over 10k now.

When are we out of the recount territory?

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Dave In Austin  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:19:07am

True Facts: BatFishes

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:20:43am

re: #55 Nyet

Yeah, relatively ok (despite living in the middle of a Corona hotspot…). Certainly not as much stress as in the spring. You get used to it, I guess.

Sadly, yes. Now I watch movies and it’s like ‘WHERE ARE THEIR MASKS?” The health issues caused more stress here than the general pandemic stress - June was pretty much a complete wash. We’re vaguely back to functioning now, although this week has been …less productive.

re: #56 Nyet

Just looked it up and it can be requested as long as the margin is less than 0.5% so I don’t think we’re likely to hit that, unless there are a LOT more ballots that got cured and arrive from overseas.

On the other hand, the examples we have from modern recounts are that vote totals have shifted ~1k so as long as there are no shenanigans, I am not super concerned about it in this case.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:25:37am
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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:36:27am

re: #59 Nyet

This needs to be worked into the Downfall parodies.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:48:36am

re: #44 Bossnova1978

I have to say busting out the Ace Ventura at the end there was a fantastic callback to my high school days on an already great day.

I miss Jason Sudeikis as Biden. I think he gives a better performance as Joe

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:53:02am

Donald will be singing this about Melania soon.

NSFW

Click to Reveal

YouTube

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 1:27:28am

re: #59 Nyet

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This feels like the last act of a film where the villain finds out that everybody he thought of as his friends were really just looking for an excuse to bail because of how much of a bullying dick he truly is.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 1:34:51am

re: #63 Targetpractice

This feels like the last act of a film where the villain finds out that everybody he thought of as his friends were really just looking for an excuse to bail because of how much of a bullying dick he truly is.

McCain had it easier.

John McCain and his Vegetable Friends

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 8, 2020 • 1:40:36am

The ecosystem around my house has been getting intense lately. In the past year I’ve seen a coyote in the open space behind my fence, heard a bobcat in the open space at night, had owls and hawks swoop down to try and grab my 100lb dog and at the last minute realize he’s too big to catch. The squirrel population has exploded due to volunteer oak trees in the area. The neighbors oak volunteered on my fence-line 25 years ago. We tried to get the previous two owners take it down but it is now 16” wide at the trunk and pushing the fence over. Gophers have taken over the open space and in the past 3 year invaded the yard, also we’ve had a rat explosion from the open space for the last 2 years. They like our garden veggies and the acorn meat the squirrels drop from the oak tree. There was so much food around until this week that the rats wouldn’t eat the poison bait, now that the garden is done and the squirrels have finished the acorns the rats are finally eating the bait. We had mourning doves in our trees but a cooper’s hawk killed them in our courtyard. I’ve got the tail feather of the hawk and chest down of mourning doves, and no more dove calls as forensic evidence.

I’m wondering how long until the scorpions, rattlesnakes, and mountain lions show up.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 8, 2020 • 1:43:57am

re: #65 Dread Pirate Ron

You don’t have to worry until the chupacabra shows up.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 8, 2020 • 1:55:39am

YouTube

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 8, 2020 • 2:04:01am

re: #67 Dread Pirate Ron

LOL my dog howled in his sleep to the sax at the end of the first song. I know the song and I don’t recall a dog howl in it. I even played it back to be sure.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 8, 2020 • 2:15:44am
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Jay C  Nov 8, 2020 • 2:19:34am

re: #66 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

You don’t have to worry until the chupacabra shows up.

Or the Murder Hornets.

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A Cranky One  Nov 8, 2020 • 2:29:05am

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2020 • 2:34:10am

re: #53 Nyet

So I see even Bibi has congratulated Joe and Kamala.

Netanyahu may be a crook (though a crook with more political “lives” than a gaggle of cats), but he ain’t stupid: he knows that Biden isn’t likely to have forgotten Bibi’s attempted sandbagging of the Iran nuclear deal back in Obama’s Admin. Or that with Trump - and his connection with the “Christian Zionist” pulpit-pimps - out of the WH, he’s lost a source of policy leverage (for now).

As usual, ME policy is going to be a brain-bending maze for the Biden Administration to have to thread…

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Dave In Austin  Nov 8, 2020 • 2:43:55am

re: #65 Dread Pirate Ron

I relocated this little girl this morning

This is a regular thing as well.

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A Cranky One  Nov 8, 2020 • 2:59:01am

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:07:59am

President Elect Biden. The tide is turning.

YouTube

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thedopefishlives  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:11:23am

Well, that didn’t take long. Twitter is taking Trump’s gag off, now that the election has officially been called.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:11:28am

Morning LOLs.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:14:05am

re: #76 Dopefish: Ever hopeful.

Well, that didn’t take long. Twitter is taking Trump’s gag off, now that the election has officially been called.

How long before trump gets suspended from Twitter?

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thedopefishlives  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:15:44am

re: #78 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

How long before trump gets suspended from Twitter?

You and I both know they won’t. His tweets are too valuable to them to pass up. That’s why they had to remove the warning labels literally the instant they felt they could justify it.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:16:19am

YouTube

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:32:26am
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Jack Burton  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:32:48am

Haven’t heard anything about Hunter Biden’s laptop(s) since Monday.

Sort of like how we never heard anything more about the migrant caravans after election day in 2018.

Sort of like how we didn’t hear any more about Anthony Weiner’s laptop after election day in 2016.

Sort of like how we didn’t hear any more about Ebola after election day in 2014.

Sort of like…

Notice a trend.

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Scout  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:39:07am

I’m still curious where pence is in all this. I can’t shake the suspicion he’s got the coronavirus from meadows.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:40:36am
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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:41:58am

Joe M
StormIsUponUs
6h
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Just pretend this “President Elect Biden and Vice President Elect Harris” limbo is a horrible nightmare that you will actually get to wake up from.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:45:00am

re: #85 Nyet

Aww. Fuck your feelings, asshole. President Trump was a nightmare that we had to live through, because it was also reality.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:51:37am

re: #84 Nyet

The responses are why trump will succeed in whatever bullshit media circus he is to create. He’s stoked the Fake Gnus flames to incinerator levels.

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Jack Burton  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:51:49am

re: #83 Scout

I’m still curious where pence is in all this. I can’t shake the suspicion he’s got the coronavirus from meadows.

Barr’s been out of sight for even longer.

I wonder if he’s got the ‘Rona, or if he’s on a beach in Mauritius, sipping a Corona.

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EPR-radar  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:53:57am

re: #87 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The responses are why trump will succeed in whatever bullshit media circus he is to create. He’s stoked the Fake Gnus flames to incinerator levels.

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Trump will succeed in deluding some of the cretins that support him. That’s all.

He’s out on his ass Jan 2021.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2020 • 3:59:09am

re: #89 EPR-radar

Trump will succeed in deluding some of the cretins that support him. That’s all.

He’s out on his ass Jan 2021.

Sure - and Trump will be whining to his last breath that the election was stolen from him.

And after awhile, no one will care.

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mmmirele  Nov 8, 2020 • 4:14:12am

re: #89 EPR-radar

Trump will succeed in deluding some of the cretins that support him. That’s all.

He’s out on his ass Jan 2021.

It’s all about the grift. Remember Jill Stein in 2016 collecting money for a recount. Just think, it’s that times 100 with Donald. He’s going to keep up the illusion of “doing something” so he can keep bringing money into his campaign.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 8, 2020 • 4:15:09am

re: #6 Belafon

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2020 • 4:17:39am

re: #91 mmmirele

It’s all about the grift. Remember Jill Stein in 2016 collecting money for a recount. Just think, it’s that times 100 with Donald. He’s going to keep up the illusion of “doing something” so he can keep bringing money into his campaign.

I reckon he can keep that grift going until about mid-to-late December. Then he’ll grudgingly concede in a “Yeah, I concede, but I still think something’s fishy about all this” way and move on to something else - unless the NY AG throws the book at him, and then he’ll be ‘moving on’ to a cell in Rikers Island.

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 8, 2020 • 4:39:15am

Good morning folks!
Hoping we’ve all had a good night’s sleep after yesterday’s news and celebrations. I know I slept better last night than I had in quite a while…

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 8, 2020 • 5:12:43am

After hearing Joe last night I feel as though we will find a treatment/cure for this damned COVID-19 and we will be respected by the rest of the world again. It may take a little while with some folks but we will again be respected and treated as such.

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 8, 2020 • 5:13:16am
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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 5:13:43am

Anybody know more about this wingnut fantasy?

thegatewaypundit.com

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 8, 2020 • 5:15:32am

re: #97 Nyet

I stay away from that site.

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jeffreyw  Nov 8, 2020 • 5:20:46am

Good morning!

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 5:22:53am

re: #82 Jack Burton

Haven’t heard anything about Hunter Biden’s laptop(s) since Monday.

Sort of like how we never heard anything more about the migrant caravans after election day in 2018.

Sort of like how we didn’t hear any more about Anthony Weiner’s laptop after election day in 2016.

Sort of like how we didn’t hear any more about Ebola after election day in 2014.

Sort of like…

Notice a trend.

Tax returns
Health care plan
Melania’s immigration dox
.
.
.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 8, 2020 • 5:44:04am
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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 5:44:56am

we are getting absolutely pasted right now.
under the ‘TA’ in ‘Estates’ in the upper left corner
not quite what cuba’s got, but that’s on the way it seems

drained 6” from the pond in anticipation.
it wasn’t enough
had to go out in a drownpour and get the pump going again

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 5:46:24am

re: #101 Patricia Kayden

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forgiveness comes after acknowledgment and atonement

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 8, 2020 • 5:50:04am

re: #103 dangerman

forgiveness comes after acknowledgment and atonement

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Perfect point, let them admit to us what we should forgive them for.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 8, 2020 • 5:50:06am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 8, 2020 • 5:59:16am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:03:47am

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

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Nor could anyone else.

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:06:01am

re: #104 b.d.

Perfect point, let them admit to us what we should forgive them for.

They don’t actually want forgiveness though. They want us to apologise for making them feel less invincible, for daring to try to become their equals. They want us to apologise for making them feel like they lost.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:06:04am

It’s way too early for post-mortems, but this very long Politico article makes a good start on establishing the timelines of the two campaigns.

‘This f—-ing virus’: Inside Donald Trump’s 2020 undoing
politico.com

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:06:42am

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

Some guy. Not the Freeman.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:07:24am

re: #40 teleskiguy

Alex Hirsch. Awesome.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:07:52am

re: #108 Renaissance_Man

They don’t actually want forgiveness though. They want us to apologise for making them feel less invincible, for daring to try to become their equals. They want us to apologise for making them feel like they lost.

Fuck them kindly, bless their hearts.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:09:22am

re: #104 b.d.

Perfect point, let them admit to us what we should forgive them for.

Forgiveness is not weak, does not happen quickly, and does not forget nor condone the past.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:14:39am

re: #109 Decatur Deb

It’s way too early for post-mortems, but this very long Politico article makes a good start on establishing the timelines of the two campaigns.

politico.com

yeah - like this ever would have happened

Trump offered to cut his campaign a check heading into the final week of the race. His advisers told him it wasn’t necessary — the campaign had enough resources. While people close to the president defended the decision, it ensured he would be overwhelmed by Biden on the air as voters headed to the polls.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:16:50am

re: #101 Patricia Kayden

The whole thread is worth reading.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:18:02am

re: #108 Renaissance_Man

They don’t actually want forgiveness though. They want us to apologise for making them feel less invincible, for daring to try to become their equals. They want us to apologise for making them feel like they lost.

Then they won’t get anything unless they shit in their other hand.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:25:56am
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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:28:21am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:28:23am

re: #108 Renaissance_Man

They don’t actually want forgiveness though. They want us to apologise for making them feel less invincible, for daring to try to become their equals. They want us to apologise for making them feel like they lost.

“I want to start off with an apology, from YOU to ME, and that apology is NOT accepted!!”

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:28:50am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:29:05am

re: #117 Nyet

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But, but, but, LEGAL BALLOTS

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:29:56am

re: #117 Nyet

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“Where were you when the battle was being fought?”

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:30:17am

re: #7 terraincognita

I really think I see the difference here. Spiro is gay. Am I right?

Whenever I hear or read the name Spiro Agnew all I can think about is this:

Captain America

Eat your heart out Spiro Agnew, Captain America’s our man

Also marvel missed an opportunity to use this song

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:32:22am

re: #108 Renaissance_Man

They don’t actually want forgiveness though. They want us to apologise for making them feel less invincible, for daring to try to become their equals. They want us to apologise for making them feel like they lost lose

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:34:39am

Whatever Biden does as president, this will be a huge part of his legacy:

Whatever Joe Biden does as president, a big part of his historical legacy will be having been the white guy there while history was made, first as President Obama’s vice president and then through his choice of Harris as vice president. And for all Biden’s mixed past record on both race and gender—remember, Harris herself hit him hard over his record on school segregation during a primary debate—he has leaned into that role.

m.dailykos.com

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:34:41am

So, did Trump concede overnight?

OK, sorry for the joke.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:39:48am

re: #113 dangerman

Forgiveness is not weak, does not happen quickly, and does not forget nor condone the past.

The liberty, the personal comfort that comes from forgiveness —for your own mental health — is when you recognize that all you are doing is giving up all hope of a better past

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:44:13am

I generally don’t participate in crowds because I don’t like crowds and I’m wary of mob behavior, but I would have joined in this:

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:47:47am
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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:47:59am

re: #120 Nyet

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:50:44am

re: #126 Sir John Barron

So, did Trump concede overnight?

OK, sorry for the joke.

I wonder how long he and his creatures are going to try to keep up the “fight”? The Electoral College “meets” on Dec. 14, and once Mike Pence signs off on them*, that’s THE END.

*Odd Political Procedure Fact Of the Day: on the set date, one of the six the formal, certified copies of each State’s Electoral College decisions is delivered to the office of the VP as President Of The Senate: he (Fly Boy if he is around, otherwise whoever is President pro tem ) is to collate and certify the results to make them official.
(And no, I don’t think he can make stuff up if he doesn’t like the outcome)

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:51:03am

So, had a pretty good week. Some of you might recognize the opponent we defeated.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:51:40am

re: #103 dangerman

forgiveness comes after acknowledgment and atonement

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You don’t have to forgive someone until they come to you and ask to be forgiven.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:52:28am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 8, 2020 • 6:59:14am

re: #114 dangerman

yeah - like this ever would have happened

Trump offered to cut his campaign a check heading into the final week of the race. His advisers told him it wasn’t necessary — the campaign had enough resources. While people close to the president defended the decision, it ensured he would be overwhelmed by Biden on the air as voters headed to the polls.

I read that as some type of retcon statement to make 45 look good v

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:00:20am

re: #133 The Pie Overlord!

You don’t have to forgive someone until they come to you and ask to be forgiven.

Quite right
In fact you don’t ever *have* to
Ultimately, if you do, you do it for your own self

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:02:49am

BTW, the Steele dossier is most probably mostly fake, just as I suspected from the start.

meduza.io

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Axolotl  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:04:08am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Things are out of control.

We are surrounded by wingnuts: Weld County, Colo., Wyoming, and South Dakota. Wyoming and South Dakota in particular are also out of control.

I’m old enough to remember when you used to report no cases. Crazy how things have changed. Sorry man.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:08:00am

How much more time are we supposed to allow this poor soul to deal with losing again?

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:10:04am

re: #139 b.d.

And with disclaimers in red that his comments are disputed.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:12:31am

re: #132 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:16:22am
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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:18:55am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:20:10am

re: #142 jaunte

I agree with Sarah 1000%. And also people should be reminded of how many people have been killed by DT’s quack remedies instead of solid scientific evidence regarding COVID-19.

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:22:35am

We didn’t know WW3 would be an information war between ideologies, not a nuclear war between nation states.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:22:40am

Yeah I’m all out of forks.

Click to Reveal

So. This clown is an owner of a bar/club that many of my friends play at with their bands. He believes any and every crackpot Q conspiracy there is. At first I ignored it because, you know… live music. But then the pandemic came and he’s been a total asshole since then. Despite state/county restrictions, he’s going about business as usual. I’ve seen photos of people who I thought were smarter than they really are throwing caution to the wind. And they wonder where I’ve been and why I haven’t gone to any shows since early March.



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Florida Panhandler  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:22:48am

re: #143 jaunte

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Not to worry . Trump and his entire crime syndicate will be getting their day in court probably not long after Jan 20.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:22:55am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:24:04am

re: #139 b.d.

How much more time are we supposed to allow this poor soul to deal with losing again?

That’s clearly what they are going with. A FB friend posted a link to some RW site that claimed Benford’s law has shown that the election was being stolen. The friend tagged me and several others who had mathematical backgrounds to get our feedback. I responded that I wasn’t going to waste my time with an article written by authors who don’t identify themselves making claims based on evidence that cannot be verified. In any case, I don’t really know anything about this supposed law (hint: it’s not really a law) but definitely could envision some lawyer trying to wow a Trump judge with this nonsense.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:26:15am

I gotta wonder with all the stupidity I’m seeing how many people think all the votes were counted when the elect election was called for Trump on election night four years ago. Jesus. People are so easily fooled by stupid narratives.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:28:21am

re: #149 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s clearly what they are going with. A FB friend posted a link to some RW site that claimed Benford’s law has shown that the election was being stolen. The friend tagged me and several others who had mathematical backgrounds to get our feedback. I responded that I was going to waste my time with an article written by authors who don’t identify themselves making claims based on evidence that cannot be verified.

You want to talk about rigged?!?!

OK, the Dems won the Senate! All the polls showed it!! The GOP stole the Senate because of massive fraud!!!

How was that?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:28:47am

re: #150 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s different. Libtards are cheats, we’re all honest.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:30:29am

re: #151 b.d.

You want to talk about rigged?!?!

OK, the Dems won the Senate! All the polls showed it!! The GOP stole the Senate because of massive fraud!!!

How was that?

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Doug Jones was a shoo-in !!1!

(not)

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PrairieQueen  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:31:11am

The armchair Constitutionalists are all over Twitter today, crying about a stolen election and shaking their fingers at all the fake news outlets about the President-elect, warning of lawsuits about voting that will open the eyes of all the libs celebrating Biden’s victory. Local news posts are being swarmed by assholes asking everyone how they’re going to enjoy the new socialist regime, blah blah. Of course, the eagle with a tear. Those goddamned crying eagles.

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:31:32am

re: #150 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I gotta wonder with all the stupidity I’m seeing how many people think all the votes were counted when the elect election was called for Trump on election night four years ago. Jesus. People are so easily fooled by stupid narratives.

Except Especially when said “narratives” confirm their biases or jibe with what they want to believe: then they (amazingly!) become significantly les stupid….

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:32:51am

re: #132 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:35:14am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:35:20am

re: #143 jaunte

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Sure, just like he gave refugees fleeing persecution in their home country? So no, FUCK HIM.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:35:32am

re: #38 KGxvi

Depends on the basis for the EO, most likely. And of course, Republicans challenging the EOs will have to argue against the precedent Trump set, which’ll be fun

They will have no problem doing that. You’re going to see the Senate spend the next four years (starting Jan 20th) railing about how the executive is out of control, acting like a dictator, etc. etc. etc.

Which will also play right into their total obstruction strategy.

And the most annoying thing about it is that all of the MSM will simply play right along with it. And also blame Biden and the House for nothing getting done since it’s their fault for not collapsing like wet tissue paper to GOP demands.

Which will also mean the media will portray all attempts to bring GOP malfeasance to justice as simply “more partisan politics” as well.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:36:19am

re: #158 Eventual Carrion

He’s had nine or ten days in court on this one issue already.

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gwangung  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:38:15am

re: #154 PrairieQueen

This election is as much a “sham” as North Korea is a democracy or republic.

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JC1  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:43:19am

re: #29 Belafon

I’m pretty sure the number of times Biden goes to the bathroom will be challenged in court, but I’m just curious if he can.

He should try, since he helped create this problem with his deeply flawed bankruptcy bill.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:43:51am

re: #161 gwangung

This election is as much a “sham” as North Korea is a democracy or republic.

I mean the thing is we would have known sooner had the Republican controlled legislatures not been dicks. People spreading this same shit also support people who were open to just making their state legislatures choose the electors. They also are okay with Republicans trying to split the EVs even in states they lose. I remember when Obama won Virginia the second time, some asshole Republicans in Richmond announced they’d introduce legislation to divide our EVs by district even though Obama won by good sized margins.

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:44:57am

Seth nails it although Clare’s piece is good. Millions of our fellow citizens are intellectually broken, in a cult. That’s not hyperbole. Our society is sick and it will be a long road back from the brink.

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:47:46am

Trump’s latest presser:

(may be a tad fake)

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:50:07am

re: #150 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I gotta wonder with all the stupidity I’m seeing how many people think all the votes were counted when the elect election was called for Trump on election night four years ago. Jesus. People are so easily fooled by stupid narratives.

CA hasn’t finished counting votes yet. It’s just that the presidential tally is no where near close so we had that called as soon as the polls closed. This is neither new nor different than any other election.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:51:15am

re: #165 BigPapa

Trump’s latest presser:

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(may be a tad fake)

That was brilliant and really well done.

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steve_davis  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:51:44am

re: #157 jaunte

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it’s possible the House will refuse to seat them.

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steve_davis  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:52:34am

re: #161 gwangung

This election is as much a “sham” as North Korea is a democracy or republic.

But the German Democratic Republic was indeed a democracy filled with Republicans.

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:54:57am

re: #167 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That was brilliant and really well done.

‘They call him Scooby Do but Scooby doesn’t do anything’ is classic Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 7:58:17am

re: #166 calochortus

CA hasn’t finished counting votes yet. It’s just that the presidential tally is no where near close so we had that called as soon as the polls closed. This is neither new nor different than any other election.

Likewise many equally red states get called early. Low attention spans make this shit happen.

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Axolotl  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:01:40am
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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:02:23am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:04:36am

re: #173 jaunte

I would love to see SDNY get to DT first; then we will see about a pardon.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:05:13am

re: #173 jaunte

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If Trump wants a pardon, he can ask Mike to give him one after he resigns. Anyone seriously suggesting that Biden should pardon Trump, while continuing to insist that Trump has committed no crimes worth being pardoned for, can get fucked.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:07:44am

re: #99 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:07:55am

re: #175 Targetpractice

If Trump wants a pardon, he can ask Mike to give him one after he resigns. Anyone seriously suggesting that Biden should pardon Trump, while continuing to insist that Trump has committed no crimes worth being pardoned for, can get fucked.

Can Joe tweet Trump that he was ready to sign the pardon, but got sleepy and decided to take a nap instead?
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JC1  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:08:01am

re: #175 Targetpractice

If Trump wants a pardon, he can ask Mike to give him one after he resigns. Anyone seriously suggesting that Biden should pardon Trump, while continuing to insist that Trump has committed no crimes worth being pardoned for, can get fucked.

Given that the presidential pardon power is pretty much unlimited, Trump can pardon himself. Of course that would mean that he’d have to admit that he crimed.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:08:45am

No more free Roman Holiday, Noot.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:13:39am

Made me LOL. Doonesbury

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:14:59am
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sagehen  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:15:00am

re: #144 PhillyPretzel

I agree with Sarah 1000%. And also people should be reminded of how many people have been killed by DT’s quack remedies instead of solid scientific evidence regarding COVID-19.

unnecessary Covid deaths +
unnecessary hurricane deaths +
abandoned Kurdish ally deaths +
right-wing violence deaths +
died in ICE custody + murdered after deportation + died ‘cause they couldn’t get in

Has he killed 420,000 people yet? Or will it take a another month or two to reach that benchmark? (that’s how many Americans wiki says died from WWII)

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:15:29am
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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:16:20am

re: #179 jaunte

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No more free Roman Holiday, Noot.

Newt’s one of the biggest reasons why nobody is looking to make nice with Republicans after the past 4 years. You want people to start thinking better of your party again? First you gotta take out the trash.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:18:04am

re: #140 PhillyPretzel

And with disclaimers in red that his comments are disputed.

Y’all are spelling stupid wrong

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:18:25am

re: #181 jaunte

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Well, I think that settles it, the theme for the future Cletus Safaris is “These Trump voters don’t think he really lost.”

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:19:36am

Mitt Romney on MTP saying he thinks the majority of Americans support conservative principles. Which is why a majority of voters went for the more liberal nominee

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:21:34am

re: #149 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s clearly what they are going with. A FB friend posted a link to some RW site that claimed Benford’s law has shown that the election was being stolen. The friend tagged me and several others who had mathematical backgrounds to get our feedback. I responded that I wasn’t going to waste my time with an article written by authors who don’t identify themselves making claims based on evidence that cannot be verified. In any case, I don’t really know anything about this supposed law (hint: it’s not really a law) but definitely could envision some lawyer trying to wow a Trump judge with this nonsense.

You outperformed your own self
Why exactly couldn’t biden outdo obama?

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:21:43am

re: #187 KGxvi

So between Mitt and Newt, conservatives are receiving the message that they didn’t really lose. This is dangerous.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:21:58am

Lre: #186 Targetpractice

Well, I think that settles it, the theme for the future Cletus Safaris is “These Trump voters don’t think he really lost.”

No one I knew voted for Biden.// I think what’s helped me is I’m fully aware Trumpers. I just concluded that they’re a minority. And honestly the best thing about Biden is there’s no cult of personality here. I like Joe and I backed him relatively early but I’m not in any possession of any of his merchandise. I just like the guy. He shares my values and I trust him. That should be enough.

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:22:08am

re: #187 KGxvi

Mitt Romney on MTP saying he thinks the majority of Americans support conservative principles. Which is why a majority of voters went for the more liberal nominee

The majority of ‘white’ Americans, Mitt.

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garzooma  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:22:50am

re: #179 jaunte

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Newt Gingrich calls Joe Biden’s election a “corrupt, stolen election” that was “financed by people like George Soros”

These are the kind of lies an enemy power uses in its propaganda to damage morale. Gingrich is a traitor.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:23:34am

re: #187 KGxvi

Mitt Romney on MTP saying he thinks the majority of Americans support conservative principles. Which is why a majority of voters went for the more liberal nominee

And why, despite the right-ward slant of the electorate polled, exit polls still showed majority support for “socialist” proposals across the land.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:23:45am
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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:23:57am

re: #189 jaunte

So between Mitt and Newt, conservatives are receiving the message that they didn’t really lose. This is dangerous.

Mitt is going with the mixed message results argument. But he’s at least admitting they have issues with young people, minorities, and suburban women. So there’s at least that…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:24:25am

re: #191 BigPapa

The majority of ‘white’ Americans, Mitt.

Those are the majority of Americans in his life. Besides moderate, conservative, liberal, mean different things to different people.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:24:33am

re: #160 jaunte

He’s had nine or ten days in court on this one issue already.

When/if you get your day in court and you lose
Then what will you say?

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:25:38am

re: #197 dangerman

Soros!

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:26:44am

re: #194 jaunte

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They’re never going to admit that Biden won legitimately. Any more than they were willing to admit that Obama won legitimately. There will always be “questions,” there will always be “allegations,” and the fact that no court has yet bought their BS will itself be “proof” that “the fix was in.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:26:55am
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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:28:17am

re: #166 calochortus

CA hasn’t finished counting votes yet. It’s just that the presidential tally is no where near close so we had that called as soon as the polls closed. This is neither new nor different than any other election.

Also true is that none of it is official
And never has been either

But we do know that the result won’t change so it’s as good as

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PrairieQueen  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:29:17am

re: #187 KGxvi

Mitt Romney on MTP saying he thinks the majority of Americans support conservative principles. Which is why a majority of voters went for the more liberal nominee

Just because they’re trying to publicly wash their hands of Trump stank doesn’t mean they won’t be happy unless their boot is on the necks of 99% of America. They’re still very much a Gingrich/Rush/Rove bunch of fucks that just confirmed a SCOTUS that wouldn’t make a decent law clerk.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:30:56am

re: #175 Targetpractice

If Trump wants a pardon, he can ask Mike to give him one after he resigns. Anyone seriously suggesting that Biden should pardon Trump, while continuing to insist that Trump has committed no crimes worth being pardoned for, can get fucked.

That would be the first question:
Pardoned for what?
What do you think he did that he desperately needs a preemptive pardon?

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:32:57am

re: #179 jaunte

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No more free Roman Holiday, Noot.

Newt is an antisemitic racist pig

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Teukka  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:34:53am

Headline today for one of the major Swedish tabloids:

(Small print above reads “American people to Trump:”)
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:35:00am

re: #181 jaunte

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:36:53am

re: #206 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Well he did a great job judging by Massachusetts’ results. If your politics is just “offending people “, then you’re a fucking joke.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:37:56am

re: #207 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

His business was probably off because of the pandemic, so of course he blames Democrats for trying to do something about it.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:38:45am

re: #177 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Can Joe tweet Trump that he was ready to sign the pardon, but got sleepy and decided to take a nap instead?
////

No, Joe can simply tell Trump he is a “Law and Order” President. No Pardons given.

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jeffreyw  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:39:39am

Calling Pie Overlord,
Calling Pie Overlord:

Apple-Raisin Cinnamon Bun Pie

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:42:30am

re: #178 JC1

Given that the presidential pardon power is pretty much unlimited, Trump can pardon himself. Of course that would mean that he’d have to admit that he crimed.

The question could (and I hope would) go through the courts. Would one of the repugs’ selected incompetent ideologues sustain it? Who the hell knows, but that might be a step too far even for them (it would mean the President is indeed above the law).

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:43:21am

Disqus rando

Trump has always been, and always will be, a selfish spoiled brat. And that is why his supporters love him so much. He is what they want to be. They absolutely hate they can’t whine and scream and stiff people out of money. He says and acts exactly how they would love to act, but can’t because if they did it, they would be fired, dumped or abandoned.

I finally get it. Trump appeals to his supporters deep, unfulfilled selfishness. For decades they have long desired to tell minorities to get out, or gays to go back into the closet, or women to be more subservient to men. They’ve wanted to play golf all day while doing nothing but complain for a living. They’ve wanted to spend other people’s money like a drunken sailor and not worry about the financial consequences.

He did, and it inspired them. But that party is over. It’s back to reality and back to maturity.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:44:53am

re: #209 Florida Panhandler

No, Joe can simply tell Trump he is a “Law and Order” President. No Pardons given.

Fight it out in court
If you did nothing wrong what are you afraid of?//

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:45:22am

re: #210 jeffreyw

Calling Pie Overlord,
Calling Pie Overlord:

Apple-Raisin Cinnamon Bun Pie

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Teukka  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:47:26am

re: #205 Teukka

And a render lifted off of the Expressen website:

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:49:25am

re: #203 dangerman

That would be the first question:
Pardoned for what?
What do you think he did that he desperately needs a preemptive pardon?

So far, the closest any of those pushing this shit has come is to suggest that if Biden doesn’t pardon Trump, then the federal investigations and possible trials will overshadow his presidency. And that’s truly rich coming from people who, at one time or another over the past 4 years, argued aloud for investigations and trials for the “crimes” of the Obama admin.

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PrairieQueen  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:49:34am

re: #213 dangerman

Fight it out in court
If you did nothing wrong what are you afraid of?//

Might explain why he hasn’t submitted a DNA sample about that nasty little rape allegation.

My crystal ball suggests a man hounded by creditors, with a stack of even more lawsuits at his doorstep, and an expensive divorce. An gross toad of a man, who can’t afford peace or privacy or the influence money used to buy. And no, I’m not talking about Harvey Weinstein.

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:49:43am

re: #215 Teukka

And a render lifted off of the Expressen website:

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And even with my extremely rudimentary understanding of the Swedish language, it is clear. :)

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lizardofid  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:51:11am

Good morning everyone!

The S.D Governor has Michelle Bachman eyes.

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jeffreyw  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:52:25am

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

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Oh, I know how to get one made. Delegate!

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:54:28am

re: #216 Targetpractice

So far, the closest any of those pushing this shit has come is to suggest that if Biden doesn’t pardon Trump, then the federal investigations and possible trials will overshadow his presidency. And that’s truly rich coming from people who, at one time or another over the past 4 years, argued aloud for investigations and trials for the “crimes” of the Obama admin.

And they would

but if he didn’t do anything……

So they want him to be pardoned so no one even looks into what he’s done

Rich is right

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:54:33am

re: #212 dangerman

Disqus rando

I have a lot of trouble understanding that mindset. I can sort through it and see where the individual actions can feel good (however briefly) to someone, but, yeah, grow up and look at the big picture. That brief “nyah, nyah I’m better than you” high is going to result in a world that is less pleasant for everyone-including you.

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PrairieQueen  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:55:08am

re: #219 lizardofid

So many of them have those crazy eyes. It’s like Karen haircut.

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:58:16am

Chuck Todd with an interesting hypothesis that I’m definitely going to have to look at after the numbers are finalized:

Biden basically got the Clinton vote and the Gary Johnson vote from 2016

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:58:21am

re: #221 dangerman

Butter Emails.
BENG-OZZY!
Illegal Kenyan Usurper
Illegitimate American
Not MY President
Child-eating lizard people pedophile

Fuck these people with a rusty pitchfork.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 8:59:40am

re: #217 PrairieQueen

Might explain why he hasn’t submitted a DNA sample about that nasty little rape allegation.

My crystal ball suggests a man hounded by creditors, with a stack of even more lawsuits at his doorstep, and an expensive divorce. An gross toad of a man, who can’t afford peace or privacy or the influence money used to buy. And no, I’m not talking about Harvey Weinstein.

a “normal” man would not accept a pardon for a rape(s) he did not commit

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stpaulbear  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:03:39am

re: #224 KGxvi

Chuck Todd with an interesting hypothesis that I’m definitely going to have to look at after the numbers are finalized:

Biden basically got the Clinton vote and the Gary Johnson vote from 2016

The “not putting children in cages” vote and the “people should be protected from covid” vote probably adds a few voters that weren’t in the Clinton and Johnson groups.

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NetworkKed  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:04:26am

Chuck is vaguely right, in the wrong ways as usual. The thing he’s noticing is the third party vote was a lot smaller, but it went in both directions depending on the state, it looks to me. But GA and AZ swung by more than the 3rd party.

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lizardofid  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:04:32am

On my Christmas wish list.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:06:22am
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calochortus  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:06:42am

re: #228 NetworkKed

Chuck is vaguely right, in the wrong ways as usual. The thing he’s noticing is the third party vote was a lot smaller, but it went in both directions depending on the state, it looks to me. But GA and AZ swung by more than the 3rd party.

I think if AZ’s libertarians had voted Trump, he would have won that state.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:07:03am

re: #207 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Well he did a great job judging by Massachusetts’ results. If your politics is just “offending people “, then you’re a fucking joke.

Right now, Mass. has the highest percentage of Biden votes (65.3) so I guess Rocco’s campaigning wasn’t very effective.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:08:05am

Some of my RW acquaintances are still convinced Trump is going to pull it out in court and win.

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:09:51am

re: #233 Eclectic Cyborg

Some of my RW acquaintances are still convinced Trump is going to pull it out in court and win.

Will JFK Jr. be on his legal team?

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:11:01am

re: #220 jeffreyw

Oh, I know how to get one made. Delegate!

Zedie’s blood sugar went up to almost 300 last night because he ate like half of the Key Lime Pie and then this morning he snatched the last 2 slices of cinnamon bread.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:12:33am

Lre: #233 Eclectic Cyborg

Some of my RW acquaintances are still convinced Trump is going to pull it out in court and win.

Delusions really aren’t healthy.

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jeffreyw  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:13:26am

re: #235 The Pie Overlord!

Zedie’s blood sugar went up to almost 300 last night because he ate like half of the Key Lime Pie and then this morning he snatched the last 2 slices of cinnamon bread.

I will provide a mailing address so you can bake the pie and I can eat it. It’s only fair to Zed to do it that way.

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wrenchwench  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:13:36am

Good enough for daily posting:

I shall resist.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:14:40am

re: #233 Eclectic Cyborg

Some of my RW acquaintances are still convinced Trump is going to pull it out in court and win.

Bless their heart.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:15:45am
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:15:57am

Personal stuff.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:17:21am

re: #241 The Pie Overlord!

Personal stuff.

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Teukka  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:17:51am

So this photoshop scrolled by…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:18:01am

re: #236 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

L

Delusions really aren’t healthy.

This fucker is going to pull out all the stops all the way till the end to put himself above democracy. our system really isn’t built to respond to this.

Will Pence sign off on the EC vote? I’m sure he’ll be pressured not to. Does the system depend on his compliance?

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wrenchwench  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:19:34am
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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:20:00am

re: #233 Eclectic Cyborg

Some of my RW acquaintances are still convinced Trump is going to pull it out in court and win.

+5 states
+.02 min to much greater margins in those states

no judge, no court would turn such an election
scotus would never touch it. never.
not a chance
zero

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:20:14am
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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:20:18am

re: #233 Eclectic Cyborg

Some of my RW acquaintances are still convinced Trump is going to pull it out in court and win.

Yeah, and I’m still gonna win the lottery, just as soon as I get the courts to agree that my failure to pick the correct numbers doesn’t mean anything because I declared my victory before the drawing began.

//

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Teukka  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:22:08am

And the █chans appear to be losing it:

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:22:16am

re: #244 Sir John Barron

I bet you are right. But now he is a loser. His usual big audience outlets are finally not enabling him. Nobody short of Newsmax and OANN are gonna give him any positive coverage. The shine is truly off the character, who was always largely imaginary or false anyway. Not really smart. Or rich. Or attractive. Or capable of good policy.

Now it’s just a naked Emperor old and wrinkled hiding because there are no new clothes to be had.

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wrenchwench  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:23:02am

re: #243 Teukka

So this photoshop scrolled by…

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wrenchwench
11/07/2020 2:27:48 pm PST

His makeup would run.

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stpaulbear  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:24:21am

re: #245 wrenchwench

Jason Isbell
@JasonIsbell
I don’t know who needs to hear this, but if you’re out here screaming all politicians are awful so it doesn’t matter who’s in power, you’re making yourself the perfect mark and recruiter for the actual worst of them.

I bet he knows pretty well who on his twitter feed needs to hear that. ;)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:25:11am

re: #6 Belafon

I know someone posted the percentages, but here’s how the Native American vote really helped in Arizona:

And this is great, because my coworker was complaining about Arizona voting for Biden.

Speaking at a meeting of Navajo elders and taking it as an occasion to rail against “Princess Pocahontas” was a truly amazing move on Trump’s part. You could see the Navajo delegates trying to hide their discomfort and cringing.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:25:16am

re: #245 wrenchwench

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“All politicians are the same!” is how you get dictators and military juntas, because when the people think that both sides are equally bad, then it’s easy to convince them that things will be the same or better under a “non-politician.”

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:25:33am

My local PBS station WHYY is having a Bob Ross Marathon. I will be watching that this afternoon. Below will be a link to the WHYY webpage because there is a link that is labeled “Live TV.” Yes that means you can watch Bob too.
whyy.org

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:26:37am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Speaking at a meeting of Navajo elders and taking it as an occasion to rail against “Princess Pocahontas” was a truly amazing move on Trump’s part. You could see the Navajo delegates trying to hide their discomfort and cringing.

Trump got way too used to insulting his voters and having them lap it up and ask for more. Your basic unforced error.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:27:03am

re: #249 Teukka

And the █chans appear to be losing it:

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Poe’s law is getting a serious workout today.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:27:36am

Programming note for LGF:

The page which comes up saying “The unthinkable is now reality” describing Donald Trump winning the election needs to be changed.

Maybe some fireworks and ice cream, along with a photo of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:28:07am

re: #248 Targetpractice

Yeah, and I’m still gonna win the lottery, just as soon as I get the courts to agree that my failure to pick the correct numbers doesn’t mean anything because I declared my victory before the drawing began.

//

reality has slapped him in the puss.
he doesnt know what to do

he can’t lie his way out
he can’t buy his way out
he will not be able to litigate his way out (to a win!)

his reaction is the predictable and inevitable result from an incompetent idiot.

while his enablers continue to enable, though at this stage I can’t see what the fear or threat still is

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:28:10am

re: #247 The Pie Overlord!

Love that.

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:28:19am

Also, can someone please confirm for me that a second cup of coffee will have health benefits equal to a half hour or so of walking? I was going to do the latter, but it’s really windy and the former is starting to look like the better option.

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dat_said  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:28:19am

Probably just as likely she hasn’t talked to him since Monday.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:29:23am

re: #255 PhillyPretzel

My local PBS station WHYY is having a Bob Ross Marathon. I will be watching that this afternoon. Below will be a link to the WHYY webpage because there is a link that is labeled “Live TV.” Yes that means you can watch Bob too.
whyy.org

that’s what we need
a happy little mountain

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wrenchwench  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:29:27am

re: #254 Targetpractice

“All politicians are the same!” is how you get dictators and military juntas, because when the people think that both sides are equally bad, then it’s easy to convince them that things will be the same or better under a “non-politician.”

Zacktly.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:29:44am

re: #262 dat_said

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Probably just as likely she hasn’t talked to him since Monday.

She’s probably trying to talk him into resigning in exchange for pardon just so they can go back to Trump Tower. The WH pool boy just isn’t doing it for her anymore.

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:30:31am

Melania wants to GTFO of Donny’s craptastic branding campaign that went awry.

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wrenchwench  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:31:22am

re: #261 calochortus

Also, can someone please confirm for me that a second cup of coffee will have health benefits equal to a half hour or so of walking? I was going to do the latter, but it’s really windy and the former is starting to look like the better option.

Said benefits will occur as soon as you stop worrying about it.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:31:27am

This is sad

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stpaulbear  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:31:37am

re: #262 dat_said

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Probably just as likely she hasn’t talked to him since Monday.

I wonder if she’d told him she’s moving back to NYC, not Mara Lago, yet?

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:31:46am

re: #266 BigPapa

Melania wants to GTFO of Donny’s craptastic branding campaign that went awry.

Sorry. She signed up for it.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:31:54am

re: #261 calochortus

Also, can someone please confirm for me that a second cup of coffee will have health benefits equal to a half hour or so of walking? I was going to do the latter, but it’s really windy and the former is starting to look like the better option.

Mrs dm looked at the weather map (sofla/Eta is pounding us), walked into the kitchen and said “I declare today to be all day breakfast”

so go for it

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NetworkKed  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:32:03am

re: #255 PhillyPretzel

My local PBS station WHYY is having a Bob Ross Marathon. I will be watching that this afternoon. Below will be a link to the WHYY webpage because there is a link that is labeled “Live TV.” Yes that means you can watch Bob too.
whyy.org

May I suggest the Bob Ross channel on Twitch: twitch.tv

Nothing like hot and cold running Bob.

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:32:28am

re: #271 dangerman

Mrs dm looked at the weather map (sofla/Eta is pounding us), walked into the kitchen and said “I declare today to be all day breakfast”

so go for it

Mrs. dm sounds like a wise woman.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:33:03am

re: #268 BeachDem

RIP Mr Trebek. He will be missed.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:33:35am

re: #254 Targetpractice

“All politicians are the same!” is how you get dictators and military juntas, because when the people think that both sides are equally bad, then it’s easy to convince them that things will be the same or better under a “non-politician.”

even if all politicians are the same (not really possible)

you
still
vote

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:33:54am

re: #272 NetworkKed

That is good to know.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:34:47am

re: #228 NetworkKed

Chuck is vaguely right, in the wrong ways as usual. The thing he’s noticing is the third party vote was a lot smaller, but it went in both directions depending on the state, it looks to me. But GA and AZ swung by more than the 3rd party.

It misses, as the tweet I posted way up the thread shows, that there were new people that came out to vote against him, such as Native Americans.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:35:06am

re: #268 BeachDem

This is sad

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The best game show host ever. Damnit 2020 you’re still a dick.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:35:45am

re: #273 calochortus

Mrs. dm sounds like a wise woman.

she is
constantly

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:35:46am

re: #250 Rightwingconspirator

I bet you are right. But now he is a loser. His usual big audience outlets are finally not enabling him. Nobody short of Newsmax and OANN are gonna give him any positive coverage. The shine is truly off the character, who was always largely imaginary or false anyway. Not really smart. Or rich. Or attractive. Or capable of good policy.

Now it’s just a naked Emperor old and wrinkled hiding because there are no new clothes to be had.

all you say is true, yet…

were entering unchartered waters

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:35:57am

re: #102 dangerman

we are getting absolutely pasted right now.
under the ‘TA’ in ‘Estates’ in the upper left corner
not quite what cuba’s got, but that’s on the way it seems

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drained 6” from the pond in anticipation.
it wasn’t enough
had to go out in a drownpour and get the pump going again

The National Hurricane Center has issued a hurricane warning for the Florida Keys and extreme south Florida, and hurricane watches up both coasts halfway up the peninsula.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:36:03am

Wake up and first thing I see is Alex Trebek passing away.

Rest In Peace, fella…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:36:13am

re: #274 PhillyPretzel

RIP Mr Trebek. He will be missed.

crap

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:36:20am

re: #268 BeachDem

Jeopardy! is saddened to share that Alex Trebek passed away peacefully at home early this morning, surrounded by family and friends. Thank you, Alex.

“I’ll take ‘Reasons to hate 2020 over all years since the Bubonic Plague’ for $200!”

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Teukka  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:36:21am

re: #278 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The best game show host ever. Damnit 2020 you’re still a dick.

It’s still 50 days or so to go of 2020. And as I have pointed out previously, “what if 2020 was just the trailer for 2021?”

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stpaulbear  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:36:40am

re: #261 calochortus

Also, can someone please confirm for me that a second cup of coffee will have health benefits equal to a half hour or so of walking? I was going to do the latter, but it’s really windy and the former is starting to look like the better option.

I’m debating whether to go for a nice long scooter ride today. It’s sunny and in the upper 60’s (in MN, in November), but there’s an active weather advisory for winds. I think if I keep it off the freeways I’ll be OK.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:37:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:38:04am

My 2 cents on the election:

Looks like Trump has been defeated but Trumpism is still with us. Do not forget that he got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016.

The next Fascist they put up might not be so narcissistic and inept.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:38:05am

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The National Hurricane Center has issued a hurricane warning for the Florida Keys and extreme south Florida, and hurricane watches up both coasts halfway up the peninsula.

we’re unhappy, a little pissed off, and ready

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:38:05am

re: #286 stpaulbear

Go for it.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:39:42am

re: #268 BeachDem

This is sad

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Who is Alex Trebek?

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:39:50am

re: #285 Teukka

It’s still 50 days or so to go of 2020. And as I have pointed out previously, “what if 2020 was just the trailer for 2021?”

Are we sure the Mayans didn’t just fuck up the date on the calendar?

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:40:02am

re: #247 The Pie Overlord!

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And I could listen to her explain law all day.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:40:42am

re: #262 dat_said

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Probably just as likely she hasn’t talked to him since Monday.

unfortunately some officials and former officials are continuing to enable him.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:41:21am

re: #262 dat_said

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Probably just as likely she hasn’t talked to him since Monday.

Melania is twisting the knife now.

Melania can’t wait to enter her Jackie O phase….

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:41:41am

re: #244 Sir John Barron

This fucker is going to pull out all the stops all the way till the end to put himself above democracy. our system really isn’t built to respond to this.

Will Pence sign off on the EC vote? I’m sure he’ll be pressured not to. Does the system depend on his compliance?

AFAICT the official receipt of the EC votes by the VP’s office is just a formality: Pence can accept them, trash them, wipe his ass with them; machts nicht: the (legal) results aren’t dependent on any one person.

re: #228 NetworkKed

Chuck is vaguely right, in the wrong ways as usual. The thing he’s noticing is the third party vote was a lot smaller, but it went in both directions depending on the state, it looks to me. But GA and AZ swung by more than the 3rd party.

Yeah, I agree: maybe on pure math, but the non-R/D vote four years ago was 5.6% of the total: and on lower aggregate numbers: I don’t think we’ll be seeing that this time round.

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jamesfirecat  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:43:01am

re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My 2 cents on the election:

Looks like Trump has been defeated but Trumpism is still with us. Do not forget that he got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016.

The next Fascist they put up might not be so narcissistic and inept.

The thing is that… they sort of have to be (every bit as narcissistic and inept I mean).

Running fascist candidates the way they have is like an athlete taking steroids. Yeah they might temporarily juice your muscles (turnout) but they get your base addicted to them. I don’t think the GOP base is ever going to accept a candidate who won’t scream the quiet part out loud ever again.

Barring a major sea change/civil war, whoever wins the 2024 GOP Primary will have to be an open Q supporter or whatever brand alphabet soup craziness they’ve come up with by then (I hope it’s X because X sounds so much more awesome).

TLDR: Why vote for a cold clinical schemer like O’Brien when could support some obnoxious loon to own the libs instead?

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steve_davis  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:43:58am

re: #178 JC1

Given that the presidential pardon power is pretty much unlimited, Trump can pardon himself. Of course that would mean that he’d have to admit that he crimed.

I very much doubt this. The idea that the president is above the law is not one that even a bunch of originalists are going to support, because they would most definitely find nothing in favor of it in the Federalist or elsewhere. The president cannot pardon himself for crimes. He also cannot resign and let Pence be president for a day in order to pardon him, because that would be quid pro quo, and is definitely a crime.

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:44:24am

re: #287 Dave In Austin

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Oh man, how sad!
2020 isn’t done with us yet, I guess.
RIP Alex.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:44:39am

re: #297 jamesfirecat

The thing is that… they sort of have to be.

Running fascist candidates the way they have is like an athlete taking steroids. Yeah they might temporarily juice your muscles (turnout) but they get your base addicted to them. I don’t think the GOP base is ever going to accept a candidate who won’t scream the quiet part outlout again.

Barring a major sea change/civil war, whoever wins the 2024 GOP Primary will have to be an open Q supporter or whatever brand alphabet soup craziness they’ve come up with by then (I hope it’s X because X sounds so much more awesome).

What I’m afraid were going to keep seeing is an increasing trashing of the integrity of the system, like Trump has been doing since before he was elected.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:45:20am

When a friend tries to get you to laugh posting this!

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:45:34am

re: #285 Teukka

It’s still 50 days or so to go of 2020. And as I have pointed out previously, “what if 2020 was just the trailer for 2021?”

I’m going to be optimistic and say that the Mayan just got the year wrong, and that Ragnarok has happened, the old world is being washed away, and we are starting over.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:45:37am

re: #262 dat_said

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Probably just as likely she hasn’t talked to him since Monday.

so which is it?
Melania
or his inner circle

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:46:19am

Can a president pardon himself for crimes he hasn’t even been charged with yet?

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dat_said  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:46:31am

re: #295 b.d.

Melania is twisting the knife now.

Melania can’t wait to enter her Jackie O phase….

Her renegotiated pre-nup agreement likely says she can’t directly criticize him but I’m sure she’s had plenty of opportunity to watch and learn how to keep the fingerprints off of the knife.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:47:34am

re: #303 dangerman

so which is it?
Melania
or his inner circle

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I can see Ivanka, Barron and Melania being the only 3 trying to tell Donnie to accept the reality, the rest face jail

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:48:27am
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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:48:33am

re: #304 BigPapa

Can a president pardon himself for crimes he hasn’t even been charged with yet?

We’re going to find out, Donald has been building his jury one seat at a time.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:49:35am

No, it’s not in good faith. They’ve proven over and over and over that they don’t believe in good faith, and they’ve killed a lot of people showing us.

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:50:45am

re: #304 BigPapa

Can a president pardon himself for crimes he hasn’t even been charged with yet?

I don’t know that it matters. I think there is a good chance he won’t face federal charges because “we need to come together and move on.” Also, indicting a former president is generally not a good look.
But. There’s always NY which involves things unrelated to his presidency and a federal pardon might actually increase the perception of legitimacy for those state charges.

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garzooma  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:51:08am

There’s a Daily Beast article on Russia’s reaction to Trump’s loss. A good deal of it describes how they are making use of his treasonous attacks on American democracy:

Russian state media repeatedly aired Donald Trump’s notoriously undemocratic press conference, wherein he baselessly trashed and undermined his own country’s elections, describing the democratic process as unclean, untrustworthy and mired in fraud.
[…]
Discrediting the crown jewel of Western democracy has always been one of Russia’s top priorities—and while he failed to come through on other fronts, Trump delivered a parting gift above and beyond the Kremlin’s wildest dreams.

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:51:10am

re: #249 Teukka

And the █chans appear to be losing it:

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Actually I LOL’d after reading that: to me it smells distinctly of parody: or maybe that’s just a side-effect of all that soy….. //

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:51:30am

Damn it 2020. Just when you had me feeling a bit better about you. 😢

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:52:33am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:52:43am

re: #310 calochortus

I don’t know that it matters. I think there is a good chance he won’t face federal charges because “we need to come together and move on.” Also, indicting a former president is generally not a good look.
But. There’s always NY which involves things unrelated to his presidency and a federal pardon might actually increase the perception of legitimacy for those state charges.

Though they should nail him for the Russian interference with our elections and also additional charges related to campaign fraud, manipulation, etc. Former president or not hammering people who mess with our electoral processes and integrity is a good look for the country.

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:54:17am

re: #315 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Though they should nail him for the Russian interference with our elections and also additional charges related to campaign fraud, manipulation, etc. Former president or not hammering people who mess with our electoral processes and integrity is a good look for the country.

Should and will are 2 different things. I’d love to see those charges, but honestly, I’d be quite satisfied with getting him on the financial stuff.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:54:29am

re: #307 jaunte

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Before Kasich urges Biden to meet Congressional Republicans halfway, he should STFD and STFU. Kasich is, and always has been, a gigantic asshole and I don’t get the Dem acceptance of his bullshit. Him speaking at the convention nauseated me.

Oh, and he was quite the successful Biden surrogate—Trump won Ohio in 2016 with 51.69% of the vote; 2020, it jumped to 53.40%.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:54:54am

re: #291 dangerman

Who is Alex Trebek?

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WHAT?

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:55:00am

re: #309 jaunte

No, it’s not in good faith. They’ve proven over and over and over that they don’t believe in good faith, and they’ve killed a lot of people showing us.

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Sick of the Sunday Morning Gasbag Shows that endlessly kiss Republican ass.

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:55:54am

Not prosecting crimes due to political sentiments is not a good look.

The more we act as if we’re not like those other countries we are actually acting like those other countries.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:56:20am

re: #310 calochortus

I don’t know that it matters. I think there is a good chance he won’t face federal charges because “we need to come together and move on.” Also, indicting a former president is generally not a good look.
But. There’s always NY which involves things unrelated to his presidency and a federal pardon might actually increase the perception of legitimacy for those state charges.

We have no idea of what he might have done. All those transcripts that he but the POTUS eyes only label on become available to Biden. The moving on chatter is way too premature imho.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:56:45am

Llre: #317 BeachDem

Before Kasich urges Biden to meet Congressional Republicans halfway, he should STFD and STFU. Kasich is, and always has been, a gigantic asshole and I don’t get the Dem acceptance of his bullshit. Him speaking at the convention nauseated me.

Oh, and he was quite the successful Biden surrogate—Trump won Ohio in 2016 with 51.69% of the vote; 2020, it jumped to 53.40%.

And that was with the corruption of his state party. Sad to say and I know it would break OA’s heart but I think Ohio is going the way of Missouri unless it gets diverse fast and the Rust belt lose their resentments.

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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:58:10am

re: #318 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

WHAT?

They were giving the Jeopardy “answer-as-a-question” .

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:58:10am

Trump is guilty of crimes as noted in the Mueller Report. His guilt of other crimes is in his own Twitter feed.

Justice is the question and the answer, not vengeance.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:58:19am

re: #318 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

WHAT?

Jeopardy! type answer is how I took it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:58:31am

BOOKMARK THIS THREAD because you know butthurt GOP & Berners are going to be saying all kinds of bogus shit about our dear Vice President.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:58:32am

re: #298 steve_davis

I very much doubt this. The idea that the president is above the law is not one that even a bunch of originalists are going to support, because they would most definitely find nothing in favor of it in the Federalist or elsewhere. The president cannot pardon himself for crimes. He also cannot resign and let Pence be president for a day in order to pardon him, because that would be quid pro quo, and is definitely a crime.

agree on the first part

the second part is uncharted waters
(ianal)
from my reading, pence pardoning trump is much thornier.
apparently the pardon could stand (unless there was a threat or extortion etc).
but pence could be in a world of legal trouble if there was an agreement or something construed as a bribe

note ford’s preemptive pardon of nixon was never challenged.
doesn’t necessarily make it precedent, or legal. just no one bothered.

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:59:04am

re: #318 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

WHAT?

Jeopardy answers must be given in the form of a question. For ex:

” I’ll take Game Show Hosts for two-hundred, Alex. “

This man was Alex Trebek’s predecessor as host of Jeopardy.
“Who is Art Fleming?”
That is correct.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2020 • 9:59:20am

Melanie of the Kidneys and her offspring may be the only Trump’s escaping prison.

Shame that.

As for Alex Trebek, RIP, I’m too sad to say much of anything. I’m heartbroken.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:00:12am

I love the avatar:

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:00:35am
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wrenchwench  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:00:42am

I’m here for Presidente Baiden.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:00:55am

And?

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:01:01am

re: #315 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Though they should nail him for the Russian interference with our elections and also additional charges related to campaign fraud, manipulation, etc. Former president or not hammering people who mess with our electoral processes and integrity is a good look for the country.

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steve_davis  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:01:19am

re: #249 Teukka

And the █chans appear to be losing it:

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please tell me that was somebody who has been quietly trolling the 8chan community right up to this moment, and just couldn’t resist.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:01:58am

re: #333 Targetpractice

Lindsey Graham calling for civil unrest.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:02:22am

re: #318 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

WHAT?

the highest praise i could think of.
I hoped it wouldn’t be too subtle

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:02:27am

re: #314 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Just in: statement from former President George W Bush congratulating President-elect Joe Biden:

Solid shade throwing from Dubya

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ericblair  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:02:29am

re: #311 garzooma

There’s a Daily Beast article on Russia’s reaction to Trump’s loss. A good deal of it describes how they are making use of his treasonous attacks on American democracy:

Yeah, ok, guy who loses thinks everybody else cheated.

What Russia and the rest of the world also saw was the US voting out its own right wing corrupt autocrat, and that gives people hope.

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BigPapa  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:03:08am

Part of the problem with Russia and the Mueller Report is some of the fuckery was legally or criminally untested or with no clear law against. That should be addressed and shored up. An investigation should be pursued even if charges or guilt are not assigned.

Mueller made that very clear when he implored us to read the Report. Our legal system needs to catch up with real life and the Information Age.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:03:11am

Sentiment:

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:04:03am

re: #333 Targetpractice

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And?

Lindsey is 100% completely sure his own reelection was completely legitimate and thus unquestionable.
///

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:05:48am

Death of a campaign.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:05:56am

re: #335 steve_davis

please tell me that was somebody who has been quietly trolling the 8chan community right up to this moment, and just couldn’t resist.

I took it as straight up hard trolling. Not sure how anyone could see it otherwise given the end of the post

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:06:16am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:09:51am

re: #326 The Pie Overlord!

BOOKMARK THIS THREAD because you know butthurt GOP & Berners are going to be saying all kinds of bogus shit about our dear Vice President.

[Embedded content]

I hate that she is pressured into almost being apologetic about it. It always comes from bad faith right wingers and BBs who don’t know shit about the difference between making and enforcing the law. So much phony outrage about her spread on behalf of a man who left the most diverse metropolitan area in the nation for a lily white state. Bernie’s a white flighter.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:09:55am
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steve_davis  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:10:21am

re: #304 BigPapa

Can a president pardon himself for crimes he hasn’t even been charged with yet?

somebody pointed out in a previous thread that Ford did actually pardon Nixon for crimes that were known, and those he’d committed that weren’t yet known, or words to that effect. I can’t see the supreme court saying the president has the power to grant himself blanket protection from the law against any crimes he may choose to commit in the future.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:10:48am

OK I want to meet Sen. Graham halfway here. We should annul an election. His.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:11:31am

re: #332 wrenchwench

I’m here for Presidente Baiden.

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My Espanol es pobre. Enscriben en Ingles, Poe favor WW.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:12:08am

re: #233 Eclectic Cyborg

Some of my RW acquaintances are still convinced Trump is going to pull it out in court and win.

If I see one more loony-ass reference to ‘watermarks’ today I’m gonna take my eyes out with a spoon.

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John Hughes  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:12:31am

re: #95 PhillyPretzel

After hearing Joe last night I feel as though we will find a treatment/cure for this damned COVID-19 and we will be respected by the rest of the world again. It may take a little while with some folks but we will again be respected and treated as such.

Lose the saviour syndrome. You will be respected if you stop being dicks.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:13:12am

re: #333 Targetpractice

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And?

Good. You lost. We had to go to work and deal with red hat assholes telling us to cry more for the last four years. You’re just gonna get Uncle Joe leading by example and showing that your base embraced a fat fraud.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:13:14am

re: #351 makeitstop

If I see one more loony-ass reference to ‘watermarks’ today I’m gonna take my eyes out with a spoon.

Looking at my junk mail folder and sure as shit yep seeing a whole bunch of relatives e-mails about them watermarks. They’re drowning in them…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:13:21am

re: #350 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

My Espanol es pobre. Enscriben en Ingles, Poe favor WW.

Bailar, Biden!

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wrenchwench  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:13:38am

re: #350 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

My Espanol es pobre. Enscriben en Ingles, Poe favor WW.

I pulled up the tweet and hit the ‘translate’ button. As I recall, it’s something about ‘how many eyes saw this and it happened anyway’.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:14:01am

re: #351 makeitstop

If I see one more loony-ass reference to ‘watermarks’ today I’m gonna take my eyes out with a spoon.

like the layerings on the Obama Birth Certificate?

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:14:07am

re: #351 makeitstop

If I see one more loony-ass reference to ‘watermarks’ today I’m gonna take my eyes out with a spoon.

“Why a spoon, cousin? Why not an axe?”

/

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:15:28am

It looks like I have to drag out the grill.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:17:15am

re: #356 wrenchwench

I pulled up the tweet and hit the ‘translate’ button. As I recall, it’s something about ‘how many eyes saw this and it happened anyway’.

Oh okay. Btw loved seeing the Navajo play a role in putting Joe and Kelly over the top. I really hope we get a prominent Native American voice in the administration or Congressional leadership- Sharice Davids is a star.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:19:07am

re: #360 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

No sabe uno si reír o llorar.

“I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.” A good phrase to keep handy.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:20:50am

re: #352 John Hughes

Lose the saviour syndrome. You will be respected if you stop being dicks.

Did he say that we would save the world?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:23:44am

I am personally convinced the Rudy and company resorted to “Four Seasons” after their credit card was rejected at “The State Room”, an event/function rental space, directly across the street.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:24:40am

re: #363 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

That sounds like the case to me.

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garzooma  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:25:52am

re: #340 BigPapa

Part of the problem with Russia and the Mueller Report is some of the fuckery was legally or criminally untested or with no clear law against. That should be addressed and shored up. […]

Sen. Leahy introduced back in 2007 “S.1946 - Public Corruption Prosecution Improvements Act” to address holes in anti-corruption laws. It certainly deserves more attention.

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John Hughes  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:26:07am

re: #352 John Hughes

Ok, Philly, here’s what ticked me off:

I feel as though we will find a treatment/cure for this damned COVID-19 and we will be respected by the rest of the world again.

No, “you” will not find a treatment/cure for this damned COVID-19. Partly because it’s not countries that find things like that, it’s scientists, mostly because there are no “cures” for viral disease.

But that’s irrelevant. America will be respected again when it stops behaving like a dick.

We don’t need or want American to start thinking it’s “special” or “exceptional” again. We want a friend, not a boss.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:26:23am

re: #342 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Lindsey is 100% completely sure his own reelection was completely legitimate and thus unquestionable.
///

I’m knee-deep in my precinct by precinct dive; will report back. (Mine, which was the only non-minority/majority precinct in my county to go blue in 2016, went for Trump by 7 votes but for Jaime by 21.)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:26:32am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Solid shade throwing from Dubya

What shade? I saw none.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:27:12am

re: #349 Nyet

OK I want to meet Sen. Graham halfway here. We should annul an election. His.

first question: so South Carolina’s a redo?

cause its the ballots themselves, right?
not one race on the ballot, right lindsey?

you’re going to have to explain the fraud specifically

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:29:04am

Ahh I found the charcoal.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:29:15am

re: #336 jaunte

Lindsey Graham calling for civil unrest.

Or a rephrasing of his statement “If we elect Donald Trump we will be destroyed, and we’ll deserve it.”

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:29:58am

re: #363 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I am personally convinced the Rudy and company resorted to “Four Seasons” after their credit card was rejected at “The State Room”, an event/function rental space, directly across the street.

its what I’ve heard people saying
(for at least 2 minutes)

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:30:09am

re: #336 jaunte

Lindsey Graham calling for civil unrest.

Lindsay needs to chill out

Music for Boys

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:31:11am

re: #364 PhillyPretzel

That sounds like the case to me.

Yeah, if it wasn’t their credit card getting rejected, it was they showed up early to set up, and realized that someone had failed to actually booked the space

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PrairieQueen  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:31:21am

re: #266 BigPapa

Melania wants to GTFO of Donny’s craptastic branding campaign that went awry.

She is only a better packaged version of the complete asshole her husband is. She, herself, is a complete asshole that has gone low at every opportunity. Any distance is purely self preservation, and only if it pays well.

She is not a victim. She is not innocent. She was not badgered into her position. Rather, she worked for it. Where she is was the goal from the get-go.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:32:59am

re: #375 PrairieQueen

She is only a better packaged version of the complete asshole her husband is. She, herself, is a complete asshole that has gone low at every opportunity. Any distance is purely self preservation, and only if it pays well.

She is not a victim. She is not innocent. She was not badgered into her position. Rather, she worked for it. Where she is was the goal from the get-go.

um, erm

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:33:32am

re: #366 John Hughes

I’m just curious what website you think you’re on?

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:33:53am

re: #376 dangerman

Hey, mushroom farming is work.

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John Hughes  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:33:55am

re: #95 PhillyPretzel

Oh, sorry, I forgot to add. If you’re in Philly:

Thanks.

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CleverToad  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:34:53am

Oh my, I am actually on the current thread for the first time in several days! Took awhile to catch up, with the tidal wave of news. GOOD news, most of it. A relief to be able to breathe deep, a pleasant change to see daybreak ahead. Yeah, yeah, we all know we’ve got a long, steep mountain ahead; a stiff hike even to get back to where we were in November 2016, much less to gain altitude. But it sure helps to feel like we’re on the right trail, with a leader who knows how to read a map (and might even, y’know, ask for directions… and listen to the answers ;) ).

Not hanging my hopes on just one political ticket. I really love both Joe and Kamala, mind you, they don’t need to have superpowers to get my respect. The greatest thing about this win is the team they have going and the team they’ll be able to assemble for support: knowledgeable people interested in actual governance who value competence. Remember that? It’s been a long, long time.

Soooo much credit to the people who put in the work to make this happen, hanging lit on doorknobs, writing postcards, making calls (h/t JoeB!), entering and analyzing data. Loud call out to Stacey Abrams and her team (donations on the way), devout hopes that the Dem leadership has the sense to put her in charge of the preparation for 2022. The slog starts again tomorrow, today I’m just savoring. (Okay, and catching up on laundry now that I have a new washer/dryer stack in place and ready to go after the od one bit the big one.)

Also enjoying the Lizard reunions as everyone pops back in to celebrate!

Babushka, love the pics! Best wishes to your own 46, that’s a grand coincidence that will probably be a family legend for years to come. Michele, we’ll take pics from you too, hint hint :)

Klys, nice to see you! Wincing sympathy on the med issues, I know how that particular problem goes. Best of luck to the rest of NaNoWriMo, and yeah, no one should expect to make their word count during an historical election. Would love to see the results.

Has anyone heard from Sea Mexican? Would be interested to get the Puerto Rican perspective, if there’s a chance between storms.

Cheers, all!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:34:58am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Solid shade throwing from Dubya

Still with the “Donald Trump has the right to pursue any legal challenges and unresolved issues will be properly adjudicated.”

That whole red meat bit to the base could have been left out. Bush knows what’s going on with those cases, and he knows that they are bullshyte.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:35:28am

re: #266 BigPapa

Melania wants to GTFO of Donny’s craptastic branding campaign that went awry.

Melania doesn’t like having to do FLOTUS/role model stuff. She would much rather be able to go shopping every day and having vapid fans take pictures with her, all while having zero responsibilities

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:36:42am

re: #241 The Pie Overlord!

Personal stuff.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:36:52am

re: #333 Targetpractice

Lindsey Graham: If we accept these election results ‘you’d never have a Republican president forever’

Your proposal is acceptable.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 8, 2020 • 10:46:16am

re: #380 CleverToad

Here you (and the rest of the Lizards) go.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 8, 2020 • 11:05:51am

re: #130 dangerman

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 8, 2020 • 11:45:01am

re: #385 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Here you (and the rest of the Lizards) go.

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CleverToad  Nov 8, 2020 • 12:24:45pm

re: #385 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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