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Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:21:04pm
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darthstar  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:22:12pm

If the CEOs knew what was good for them they’d back president Biden and work for incremental advantage with Democrats as those would be more permanent.

Trump’s tax break expires next year. He does temporary breaks to maintain ‘loyalty’.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:27:01pm

tfw you start typing something because you’re incensed about the latest shit Trump did, but then you decide to just delete that shit and listen to Miles Davis instead

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:27:14pm

#NowPlaying Miles Davis > Kind Of Blue > Blue In Green > Stream at Apple Music

Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-06-20T01:24:57+00:00

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:27:47pm

Two threads ago:

re: #105 Hecuba’s daughter

The 10 Commandments say nothing about lying, only about bearing false witness against your neighbor. Wonder how that extends to those who are not your neighbors — like a judge or a prosecutor in a case against you.

If I wanted to use a legalistic definition of “bear witness” as shown in God’s Own Bible, the Abridged Version of the King James, I would go with Merriam-Webster. Neither requires a court.

merriam-webster.com

Definition 1
: to show that something exists or is true
—+ to
His success bears witness to the value of hard work.
Rising ticket sales bear witness to the band’s popularity.

In the first example: He was later convicted of embezzlement (which could be hard work I guess).
In the second example: The band was able to book more venues (because they quit their jobs and had more time)

Definition 2
formal : to make a statement saying that one saw or knows something
asked to bear witness to the facts
She was accused of bearing false witness at the trial.

In the first example:
Concerned woman: Did you see my husband in a bar with his secretary?
Homewrecker: Yes. He’s been there with her a lot (she lied).

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:34:44pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My response would be, “And who is my neighbor?” Which, following a New Testament interpretation, would imply “everybody” - the supposed lesson of the Parable of the Good Samaritan, which was given in response to that exact question. (Note how this parable is frequently ignored in many right-wing fundamentalist interpretations of Scripture.)

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:44:03pm

miles davis grew up hard and wasn’t the easiest person to like, but he created some of the defining music of the 20th century.

Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-06-20T01:43:01.000Z

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:49:35pm

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:49:50pm

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:51:55pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

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Verified. It refuses to answer any question about who won the election or even any question about why it refuses to. So, not A.I. Just a Bot.

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TedStriker  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:52:48pm

re: #9 Patricia Kayden

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“If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:54:30pm

re: #67 KGxvi

Even things like universal health care and gun bans can be complicated/complex. Complex issues require complex solutions.

As someone who has voted third party more than once, I get the desire to vote for the person most inline with your world view and/or ideology. And I always find it interesting that Republicans and Democrats say the same thing about voting third party - that you’re throwing your vote away or essentially voting for the other major party nominee (this is, by the way, a terrible argument because as a voter it’s my vote, so I’m not throwing it away, and I’m not “voting for the other guy”, [1] I’m voting for the person most aligned with my beliefs - all it does is make you sound like a condescending jackass who isn’t actually listening to the person you’re “debating”).

Why is it a terrible argument (throwing your vote away)? How many third-party candidates have won a federal election? In my lifetime, I am aware of only one person who ever won (Lisa Murkowski as a write-in, then immediately rejoined the Republican Party). There’s no debate here.

It is not condescending to tell a person that their vote will not have an effect (that is a fact), but third-party voters actually condescend that they’re voting their “principles” while they watch people losing their rights as long as they think it won’t affect them personally. They were principled though.

The argument is similar to a religious argument. A fundamentalist believer says evolution by natural selection is untrue, and you’re a “jackass” for not listening to the person you’re “debating.” There is no debate there; evolution is a fact.

But unfortunately, we don’t have viable third parties in our system at present. And the system is set up in a way to quash them, which in turns leads to most [2] third parties being generally unserious entities unable to actually deal with the complex issues facing the country and the world.

See, I don’t get the contrast between #1 and #2 I bolded there. The “system” is not set up to quash third parties. Voters generally align themselves with two large groups (parties) most closely aligning to their wishes (Duverger’s Law). You state in one sentence that you’ve voted for third party candidates even though their parties are generally unserious entities.

So if they are unserious parties, why would you vote for their candidates?

“I’m not voting for lesser of two evils” argument (used by third-party supporters as a pejorative) rejects two premises:

a) “Lesser evil” can in fact be defined as “good”
b) Even if it’s not good, lesser evil is preferable than greater evil.

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austin_blue  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:57:19pm
I would wear that on a shirt as an atheist.

I never had a problem with Jesus, I thought his message was great.

I had a problem with how he was *marketed*.

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Cheechako  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:57:20pm
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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:57:35pm

Kevin M. Levin @civilwarmemory.bsky.social
(Ann Telnaes/The Washington Post)

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:58:07pm

re: #13 austin_blue

I never had a problem with Jesus, I thought his message was great.

I had a problem with how he was *marketed*.

Gandhi, right?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 19, 2024 • 6:58:37pm

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Dangerman  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:00:53pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Why is it a terrible argument (throwing your vote away)? How many third-party candidates have won a federal election? In my lifetime, I am aware of only one person who ever won (Lisa Murkowski as a write-in, then immediately rejoined the Republican Party). There’s no debate here.

It is not condescending to tell a person that their vote will not have an effect (that is a fact), but third-party voters actually condescend that they’re voting their “principles” while they watch people losing their rights as long as they think it won’t affect them personally. They were principled though.

The argument is similar to a religious argument. A fundamentalist believer says evolution by natural selection is untrue, and you’re a “jackass” for not listening to the person you’re “debating.” There is no debate there; evolution is a fact.

See, I don’t get the contrast between #1 and #2 I bolded there. The “system” is not set up to quash third parties. Voters generally align themselves with two large groups (parties) most closely aligning to their wishes (Duverger’s Law). You state in one sentence that you’ve voted for third party candidates even though their parties are generally unserious entities.

So if they are unserious parties, why would you vote for their candidates?

“I’m not voting for lesser of two evils” argument (used by third-party supporters as a pejorative) rejects two premises:

a) “Lesser evil” can in fact be defined as “good”
b) Even if it’s not good, lesser evil is preferable than greater evil.

It is ok to believe your vote is representing what you want while in fact and reality it is doing something entirely else.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:01:02pm

re: #13 austin_blue

I never had a problem with Jesus, I thought his message was great.

I had a problem with how he was *marketed*.

Saul/Paul considers that his best work.

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austin_blue  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:02:54pm

re: #16 Nerdy Fish

Gandhi, right?

Maybe? I don’t know.

What I do know is that the fact that God didn’t lightning smoke every preacher who sullied his Son’s (and hizzown self’s!) reputation made me an agnostic.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:08:40pm

re: #20 austin_blue

Maybe? I don’t know.

What I do know is that the fact that God didn’t lightning smoke every preacher who sullied his Son’s (and hizzown self’s!) reputation made me an agnostic.

Jesus is a trick … .

Flannery O’Connor

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austin_blue  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:10:17pm

re: #21 BeenHereAwhile

Jesus is a trick … .

Flannery O’Connor

Typical Irish reaction. I know because I are one.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:11:51pm

Steve Benen @stevebenen.bsky.social

Trump has picked foolish and unnecessary fights with private-sector leaders before, but saying executives should be fired for failing to support his campaign seems like a real escalation
msnbc.com

Micah @rincewind.run

any business leader who hears this and thinks they’ll manage to survive what’s coming in a second term with their company and their job intact should be fired for gross incompetence

Grudgie the Whale @grudgie.bsky.social

These business folks are idiots. What happens when Trump says he wants 10% of your profits? He’s already demanded a share of party donations!

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Dangerman  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:12:37pm

Seen in sofla

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:12:40pm

10%? More like 90%.

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wrenchwench  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:14:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:19:44pm

re: #78 Joe Bacon ✅

Something about today is making Republicans out asshole each other…

Newsmax Host Compares Donald Trump To Emmett Till

Greg Kelly uttered a breathtakingly stupid take on the ex-president and the historic case of a Black man unjustly killed by white men.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:21:29pm

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:22:12pm

re: #28 Patricia Kayden

We decide, you concur.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:24:49pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

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Naked expectations of a Convected Felon Trump winning the 24 Election and then seeking direct and execution-level revenge against any opposition.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:29:13pm

re: #96 mmmirele

I have absolutely ZERO guilt for encouraging kids and teens to deface Louisiana’s Ten Commandments poster if/when it goes up. Because it is a fucking PASTICHE. Per Slacktivist Fred on bsky…

All of this for Christians marking their territory and for conservatives about power, bigotry, and racism.

This happened when Texas passed legislation requiring “In God We Trust” signs be posted in schools.

A Texas school board rejects ‘In God We Trust’ signs in Arabic (NPR, August 31, 2022)

The signs had the right message, as required by law. One stated “In God We Trust” over a rainbow background. Another was in Arabic. But the Carroll school district in North Texas rejected the signs, saying it already has enough for its buildings.

“Why is more God not good?” came the retort from Sravan Krishna, a local resident who sought to donate the colorful signs at a school board meeting in Southlake, a city in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, earlier this week.

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EPR-radar  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:32:43pm

re: #18 Dangerman

It is ok to believe your vote is representing what you want while in fact and reality it is doing something entirely else.

Why? That’s just another delusion, and delusions should never be accepted. It may or may not be worth it to confront the delusional, but that’s a separate issue.

Delusions with respect to voting are among the least acceptable delusions, in fact. E.g., Weimar Germany.

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sagehen  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:34:09pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It is not condescending to tell a person that their vote will not have an effect (that is a fact), but third-party voters actually condescend that they’re voting their “principles” while they watch people losing their rights as long as they think it won’t affect them personally. They were principled though.

Jill Stein voters in 3016, in MI, WI and PA — “don’t threaten me with judges! Hillary hasn’t earned my vote!!”

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:36:14pm

re: #33 sagehen

Los Angeles DSA 2016, “Hillary doesn’t deserve our vote”

Los Angeles DSA 2024, “Biden doesn’t deserve our vote”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:37:47pm

Things won’t be over when Tropical Storm Alberto goes ashore tomorrow.

Southwestern Gulf of Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure is forecast to form near the Yucatan
Peninsula of Mexico on Friday. Environmental conditions appear to
be conducive for gradual development thereafter, and this system
could become a tropical depression over the southwestern Gulf of
Mexico this weekend while it moves slowly west-northwestward or
northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours…low…near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days…medium…40 percent.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:40:15pm

re: #34 Joe Bacon ✅

Los Angeles DSA 2016, “Hillary doesn’t deserve our vote”

Los Angeles DSA 2024, “Biden doesn’t deserve our vote”

Lincoln DSA 2016: (After Sanders dropped out): Vote for Hillary, it’s important.
Lincoln DSA 2024: Vote for Joe, it’s important.

It’s like there are two DSAs depending on which part of the country one lives in.

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wrenchwench  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:41:09pm
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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:44:26pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
It’s been pretty soggy here all day.

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Dangerman  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:48:35pm

re: #28 Patricia Kayden

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One would hope/think it’s actually the media’s job to identify bullshit and call it out.
Unfortunately too much of the media have found it too lucrative not to.
They are the main and willing purveyors of it.

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mmmirele  Jun 19, 2024 • 7:53:30pm

My brother cooked me a lovely dinner tonight. It consisted of grilled steaks, potatoes au gratin, sauteed mushrooms and fried asparagus. Then there was a chocolate pie for dessert.

He also got me a t-shirt. It’s black, has a tabby kitten wearing a tinfoil hat, and the words, “Not saying it was aliens (but it was aliens)”. Of course it’s joining my work t-shirt collection.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:00:26pm

re: #38 jaunte

Regarding the new Louisiana law to display the Ten Commandments, an interesting coalition vows to fight the law: The ACLU, the Freedom from Religion Foundation, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, and Our Lady of Fatima Catholic School in Lafayette.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:03:27pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Our Lady of Fatima Catholic School understands this law is favoring one particular religion, and it isn’t theirs.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:05:06pm

NPR, today:

MOSCOW — A Russian court has sentenced a United States soldier to nearly four years in prison on charges of theft and threatening to murder, the latest in a series of arrested American citizens in Russia amid simmering tensions over Ukraine and other issues.

Staff Sgt. Gordon Black, 34, had been stationed in South Korea and was preparing to return on leave to the U.S. when he made a decision that U.S. Army officials say was in violation of rules.

Without informing superiors, Black traveled to Russia’s Far Eastern city of Vladivostok, entering via China, to see his Russian girlfriend with whom he had started a relationship during his posting overseas.

The judge convicted Black on all charges and sentenced him to three years and nine months in a prison colony. Prosecutors had asked for four years and eight months. Black had plead guilty to taking money but said he had no intent to harm, and plead not guilty to the charge of threatening to murder his girlfriend, a Russian national named Alexandra Vashchuk.

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Regarding the US Army decision, since he violated standing orders by going to Vladivostok, when he gets back he faces military trouble as well. Additionally, no pay whilst he’s in a Russian prison camp.

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austin_blue  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:12:36pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Things won’t be over when Tropical Storm Alberto goes ashore tomorrow.

Southwestern Gulf of Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure is forecast to form near the Yucatan
Peninsula of Mexico on Friday. Environmental conditions appear to
be conducive for gradual development thereafter, and this system
could become a tropical depression over the southwestern Gulf of
Mexico this weekend while it moves slowly west-northwestward or
northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours…low…near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days…medium…40 percent.

Soft, but almost constant rain from Alberto right now, which is good! When you are in a drought, you want 1/10” of rain/hour for several days. This is a good thing.

Much better than our Flash Flood Alley Reputation.

Which, by the way, is well deserved.

And night, all.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:16:36pm

(24:25, NPR)
Mavis Staples: Tiny Desk Concert

Black Music Month celebrates the musicians who soundtrack our lives. We throwback to Mavis Staples’ Tiny Desk from 2011, which closes with the classic “I’ll Take You There.”

Meshell Ndegeocello: Tiny Desk Concert

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:23:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:26:40pm

Tomorrow is the first day of Summer. My furnace is running because the temperatures are in the mid fifties. (I suppose that’s better than upper nineties.)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:27:24pm

re: #38 jaunte

Even if it is struck down by US courts, the day is soon coming when the religious right will no longer care about what US law says.

That’s why so many of them have been drawn to Trump. He really is the embodiment of what they believe.

The old religious creeds are just functionaries, a way of forcing people to agree to the in-crowd.

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mmmirele  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:32:40pm

re: #48 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Even if it is struck down by US courts, the day is soon coming when the religious right will no longer care about what US law says.

That’s why so many of them have been drawn to Trump. He really is the embodiment of what they believe.

The old religious creeds are just functionaries, a way of forcing people to agree to the in-crowd.

Just a reminder, the Nicene Creed was proposed as a statement of faith at last week’s Southern Baptist Convention. It never came up for a vote, in part because Baptists have historically been anti-creedal. And because there are more than a few Baptist pastors who hold a view of the Trinity that is sub-Arian (the whole reason for the Nicene Creed in the first place). Explaining this would take a long time, but Jesus has to be subordinate to the Father, and because of that, women have to be subordinate to men.

I wish I was kidding. I am not.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:33:46pm

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Belafon  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:35:03pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Lincoln DSA 2016: (After Sanders dropped out): Vote for Hillary, it’s important.
Lincoln DSA 2024: Vote for Joe, it’s important.

It’s like there are two DSAs depending on which part of the country one lives in.

It’s easy to be flippant about your vote when you’re comfortable.

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Targetpractice  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:36:49pm

2 hours ago: “I’m cool to go to work, this cold has gotten better…”

Now: *coughing up lung just trying to go over shift report*

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:37:04pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Lows around here have been in the upper 50s, and during the day we’re lucky to break 70.

Good sleeping weather, but I still have to wear my hoodie when I go outside.

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Belafon  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:40:26pm
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Belafon  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:43:20pm

re: #53 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Lows around here have been in the upper 50s, and during the day we’re lucky to break 70.

Good sleeping weather, but I still have to wear my hoodie when I go outside.

We get down into the upper 70s tonight and a high of 92 tomorrow. I have to set up the CERT tent and stand around for Rockwall’s Concert at the Lake, featuring an R&B band.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:43:39pm

re: #54 Belafon

“Policy Time.”
Maybe they’ll give him so much material he’ll get his wires crossed.

Haberman: “He doesn’t like school.”

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:47:05pm

“Someone else needs to talk now, sir, it’s Policy Time.”

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retired cynic  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:49:47pm

re: #40 mmmirele

My brother cooked me a lovely dinner tonight. It consisted of grilled steaks, potatoes au gratin, sauteed mushrooms and fried asparagus. Then there was a chocolate pie for dessert.

He also got me a t-shirt. It’s black, has a tabby kitten wearing a tinfoil hat, and the words, “Not saying it was aliens (but it was aliens)”. Of course it’s joining my work t-shirt collection.

Love it. Love all of it! Glad you had a good evening!

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Targetpractice  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:53:23pm

re: #54 Belafon

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…who is she trying to fool?

We have heard again and again about how Trump was going to finally pull himself together, be “presidential,” and shock the fuck out of his critics. And then he shows up, plays to type, and they tell us “Well, he didn’t feel comfortable doing what they told him, he had to be himself.”

So yes, he’s going to show up to the debate, he’s going to be a loud and brutish asshole, and that’s going to include screaming loud enough to be heard over the muted mic because he thinks it will trip up Biden. And he’s not going to answer any questions, certainly not in a 2 min time limit, but instead give us a meandering mess that his handlers will spend the following week “translating” for us.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:57:38pm

NightCafe’s challenge for today was “Fire”, asking for creative uses.

My entry will not get much love:

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Belafon  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:58:56pm

A good article by David Frum about the reality in Detroit and America, the distortions of Trump, and how people are slow to registering good news. I can’t figure out how to single out any single part, but it’s not long.

archive.is

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Belafon  Jun 19, 2024 • 8:59:39pm

re: #60 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

NightCafe’s challenge for today was “Fire”, asking for creative uses.

My entry will not get much love:

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Needs an Elon Musk, Fox News, and Walmart on fire.

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Belafon  Jun 19, 2024 • 9:00:34pm

re: #60 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’m also getting angry Chibi Jesus from it.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 19, 2024 • 9:01:38pm

OH NO!

Not more “Democrats In Disarray” per the New York Times!

Illinois Republican Party chair resigns weeks before RNC over infighting

Illinois Republican Party chair Don Tracy has resigned — citing GOP infighting — just weeks before the Republican National Convention is set to take place in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Tracy, who had assumed the position in 2021, announced the decision to the party’s state central committee airing grievances about warring amongst fellow Republicans instead of focusing on issues and besting the left.

“When I took on this full-time volunteer job in February, 2021, I thought I would be spending most of my time fighting Democrats, helping elect Republicans, raising money to pay for more Party infrastructure, and advocating for Party unity,” according to the letter. “Unfortunately, however, I have had to spend far too much time dealing with intra party power struggles, and local intra party animosities that continued after primaries and County Chair elections.”

In a subsequent statement, Tracy blamed the bleak state of politics.

“In better days, Illinois Republicans came together after tough intra party elections,” he said. “Now however, we have Republicans who would rather fight other Republicans than engage in the harder work of defeating incumbent Democrats by convincing swing voters to vote Republican.”

rawstory.com

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 9:08:26pm

re: #64 Joe Bacon ✅

Under a tyrant, it’s intra-party power struggles all the way down.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 9:09:35pm

re: #49 mmmirele

Just a reminder, the Nicene Creed was proposed as a statement of faith at last week’s Southern Baptist Convention. It never came up for a vote, in part because Baptists have historically been anti-creedal. And because there are more than a few Baptist pastors who hold a view of the Trinity that is sub-Arian (the whole reason for the Nicene Creed in the first place). Explaining this would take a long time, but Jesus has to be subordinate to the Father, and because of that, women have to be subordinate to men.

I wish I was kidding. I am not.

The Southern Baptist Convention adopted a ridiculously long creed in May 1963 as a statement of faith.

Southern Baptist Church
The Baptist Faith and Message
(Caution for badly-designed Website even by Nineties standards) (Bible Canada, an interactive Bible Website. Whatever you do, don’t go to the main page if you believe in sin against the Gospel According to Graphic Design. That said, the main page links to scores of apologetics arguments, all of them bad.)

Most Protestant churches reject the Nicene Creed in favour of the Apostle’s Creed. That said, various Baptist sects have said that if they adopt and promulgate any creed written by men, it puts those words on par or above the words of the Bible.

That leads to a question which will be hand-waved away if an atheist asks a Baptist about it: “If the words of people might be construed as equal to or more important than the Bible, why do you preach and proselytise at all? Those are the words of people. Why not read the Bible and only the Bible?”

A question like that will not be answered in good faith.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 9:13:12pm

re: #65 jaunte

Under a tyrant, it’s intra-party power struggles all the way down.

Perhaps we can send the Illinois GOP Executive Committee a few boxes of shivs. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 9:15:08pm

re: #60 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

NightCafe’s challenge for today was “Fire”, asking for creative uses.

My entry will not get much love:

LOL.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 9:21:17pm

re: #61 Belafon

A good article by David Frum about the reality in Detroit and America, the distortions of Trump, and how people are slow to registering good news. I can’t figure out how to single out any single part, but it’s not long.

archive.is

I like this part, which highlights the unreality of perception by conservatives about American cities.

On June 7, some 20,000 people attended a concert headlined by Detroit native Diana Ross to celebrate the reopening of the Michigan Central Station. The passenger hall has been lavishly returned to its original glory. The hotel that once rose above the station has been restored and repurposed as a retail and cultural space. A PBS camera crew led viewers through the renewed terminal, so you can see for yourself.

The rebuild was funded by private investment, principally from the Ford Motor Company. The investors will put the space to new use, as the anchor of a 30-acre technology hub near a residential district that’s being revived.The reopening of the station capped a year of good news for Detroit. In 2023, the city’s population grew for the first time since 1957. Crime in the city plunged, with double-digit drops in carjackings and shootings—and the fewest homicides since 1966. Home prices rose faster than in any other city in the nation, surpassing the annual gain of more than 8 percent set by the previous front-runner, Miami.

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 19, 2024 • 9:36:58pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Lincoln DSA 2016: (After Sanders dropped out): Vote for Hillary, it’s important.
Lincoln DSA 2024: Vote for Joe, it’s important.

It’s like there are two DSAs depending on which part of the country one lives in.

The Communist Caucus of the DSA is legit crazypants. They’re Hamas supporters. No hyperbole.

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 19, 2024 • 9:43:36pm

re: #65 jaunte

Under a tyrant, it’s intra-party power struggles all the way down.

How many times were we distracted by “palace intrigue” stories during the first Trump administration? They’d only intensify in a second Trump administration.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 19, 2024 • 9:57:53pm

re: #60 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Angry chibi Jesus bringing the fire. That needs to be made into a Funko.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 10:07:18pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Whoever set up that abomination of a Bible Website did it in 2000 from British Columbia. (Registrant’s name withheld, registered by a company named Webnames Private)

They attack the Catholic Church, Calvinism, 7th Day Adventists, evolution, speaking in tongues, Rapture theology, the Mormon Church, Islam, psychiatry (calls it more dangerous than Charles Darwin), Jehovah’s Witnesses, those opposed to Sola Sciptura theology, &c.

On psychiatry, they make the standard anti-science claim that you can’t do a lab test for it, so you should seek out a regular physician to get physical tests to “prove” you don’t have things like clinical depression or schizophrenia and seek treatment using the recommendations of the Bible.

So there are ways to get around the embargo at Whois on who this is. On the site on a back page, there is a search feature to “find a church near you.” (I presume those would be acceptable churches to whomever owns this trainwreck of a Website.) So I did that.

It coughed up this map:
bible.ca

It lists a sting of churches along Interstate 25 from the Wyoming-Colorado border to Colorado Springs, and one in Rapid City, South Dakota.

They are all Church of Christ churches. (Interestingly, it doesn’t list the Cheyenne or Scottsbluff Churches of Christ. Too liberal for them maybe?)

Using their general search function on the term “epilepsy,” they have a whole bunch of pages calling it “sinful” and “demon possession.” They claim Ellen G. White (founder of the 7th Day Adventist Church) had epilepsy, and thus was possessed by demons and her parishioners led astray.

All of that had me go back and look at the pages and pages of people with epilepsy from the now-closed but archived Epilepsy Foundation discussion forum (thanks, 4chan), where hundreds of people from many Christian denominations couldn’t understand why family members or friends or churches called them “sinful” or “demon-possessed” or disowning them.

They were trying to work through religious trauma inflicted on them whilst still holding on to the same religion.

I guess this wingnut wouldn’t want me around his church (or his house, or his town, or alive, &c).

Christian Healing (Goes to the Epilepsy Foundation, August 8, 2010, with ten pages and scores of commentators trying to uplift each other and confused why their Christian brethren would disparage them. There are no people like me telling them to “come to the Dark Side, we have cookies.” All of the comments are from Christians.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 19, 2024 • 10:22:13pm

re: #70 Sherlock Hound

The Communist Caucus of the DSA is legit crazypants. They’re Hamas supporters. No hyperbole.

The Lincoln DSA does various book readings including the writings of Marx. They don’t only read Marx though, but a range of socialists including things from the Christian Socialist Church. They also do various fundraisers for charity and hold sessions on Unicameral legislative sessions.

The next event they have planned is a Pride event on June 22, followed by an Independence Day celebration the evening of June 29 with free food and drink, a fireworks display, and a flag-lowering ceremony at sunset.

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silverdolphin  Jun 19, 2024 • 10:47:45pm

Stick With Bibi or Jump Ship? The Haredi Dilemma That Will Seal Netanyahu’s Fate

Is Bibi’s government coming apart? It certainly does not look sustainable.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 12:03:46am

Photogallery here of the aftermath of a very strong windstorm that swept through Ostrava yesterday afternoon and evening.

Most of the damage was in the city center. I live in the south of the city, and for a few minutes there yesterday, I was a bit nervous we were gonna get hit hard - but the worst of it hit the downtown area, about five miles north of my location.

I’ll be heading downtown in a bit (got some stuff to do there) and reading up on it, the Ostrava Zoo, a couple miles northeast of the downtown core, will be closed today while they’re cleaning up and assessing the damage there.

moravskoslezsky.denik.cz

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 12:12:15am

A photo here from Ostrava-Kunčice, which is about three miles east of my location. What you’re seeing here is Vratimovská Street, with the street itself completely submerged in a quarter-mile long section.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 12:42:26am

OK, off to do some real-world stuff. Back later today.

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steve_davis  Jun 20, 2024 • 12:52:30am

re: #49 mmmirele

Just a reminder, the Nicene Creed was proposed as a statement of faith at last week’s Southern Baptist Convention. It never came up for a vote, in part because Baptists have historically been anti-creedal. And because there are more than a few Baptist pastors who hold a view of the Trinity that is sub-Arian (the whole reason for the Nicene Creed in the first place). Explaining this would take a long time, but Jesus has to be subordinate to the Father, and because of that, women have to be subordinate to men.

I wish I was kidding. I am not.

Yes, there’s a reason why Dad occasionally would assist with baptisms of Catholic grandchildren or the funerals and weddings of Lutherans but wouldn’t touch anything Baptist with a 10 foot pole. If you can’t say the Nicene Creed every service, you’re not doing anything that traces itself back to early church dogma.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 12:57:15am

re: #75 silverdolphin

Stick With Bibi or Jump Ship? The Haredi Dilemma That Will Seal Netanyahu’s Fate

Is Bibi’s government coming apart? It certainly does not look sustainable.

He already tried to neuter the Israeli Supreme Court the same way it’s successfully neutered here.

He’s a conservative. He will not allow them to have actual power over him. Netenyahu hasn’t been around since the Eighties in politics because he’s a shrinking violet. The second his erstwhile Haredi supporters turn on him over the token yeshiva student draft, he will politically shiv every opponent he needs to, to stay in power and out of jail.

The only thing these alleged liberals are objecting to regarding the yeshivas is special treatment under the law for their religious sect. There are way more not-Haredi.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 1:17:00am

re: #11 TedStriker

“If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”

Wow, takes me back to the days of McNutt dormitory at Indiana University in BLoomington where you could hear Rush’s 2112 coming from behind a towel-stuffed doorway at any time of day or night

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 1:19:07am

re: #20 austin_blue

Maybe? I don’t know.

What I do know is that the fact that God didn’t lightning smoke every preacher who sullied his Son’s (and hizzown self’s!) reputation made me an agnostic.

In my case it was my Catholic upbringing and all the Campus Crusade for Christ goombahs I encountered at college.

I have since mellowed on outright anti-Christianity but am still agnostic as all hell.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 1:20:48am

re: #30 Florida Panhandler

Naked expectations of a Convected Felon Trump winning the 24 Election and then seeking direct and execution-level revenge against any opposition.

They will crack down with extreme prejudice on any protestors or active opposition, and law enforcement officers will look away as vigilantes exact revenge for all the suffering and humiliation they have been forced to experience under Biden.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 1:23:25am

re: #38 jaunte

“Louisiana Governor Landry calls on us to obey our Jewish Overlords!!!”

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 20, 2024 • 1:41:02am

re: #9 Patricia Kayden

I finally got an answer from the purity pony I’ve been ‘debating’ about voting third party.

He’s voting third party, he claims, to ‘send a message about corruption’. Rolled my eyes so hard I saw my brain.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 1:43:57am

re: #85 Romantic Heretic

I finally got an answer from the purity pony I’ve been ‘debating’ about voting third party.

He’s voting third party, he claims, to ‘send a message about corruption’. Rolled my eyes so hard I saw my brain.

you can do things like that in a parliamentary system. An awful lot of populist parties gained a lot of votes in Europe through protest voters.

These populist parties have almost never been part of any government, so they can campaign on promises and rhetoric rather than record.

Two nations that where the populists actually lost seats in the EU parliament (Slovakia and Hungary) are ones which have had such governments in power.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 20, 2024 • 1:44:08am

re: #13 austin_blue

Recently saw a tweet from Mrs. Betty Bowers:

The difference between atheists and Evangelicals is that atheists are honest about not following Jesus.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 20, 2024 • 1:57:39am

re: #65 jaunte

Thinking of Nazi Germany. Where Goering, Himmler, and Goebbels, and their subordinates, were always at each other’s throats.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 2:03:27am

re: #85 Romantic Heretic

I finally got an answer from the purity pony I’ve been ‘debating’ about voting third party.

He’s voting third party, he claims, to ‘send a message about corruption’. Rolled my eyes so hard I saw my brain.

R candidate in Purity Precinct: 732 votes
D candidate in Purity Precinct: 497 votes
Purity voters: 25 votes. 30 didn’t vote at all.

Ballot proposition A: Preserve abortion rights fails by 15 votes.
Ballot proposition B: Defund the public library. Passes by 15 votes.

Message sent was what exactly?

Or in my village where enough people voted against me to put in the R/neo-Nazi candidate in 2018. The message they were trying to send me was “you’re not a Christian.” Lost by three votes, automatic state recount confirmed it.

I still want to know who the Green Party voters were here in 2020 who cast three total votes for Dr. Jill Stein (she qualified by petition since we have no Green Party here), or the eight Libertarian votes for Gary Johnson.

All eleven of those votes must have sent one helluva message to -uh- someone? The Stein voters here are apparently too embarrassed by that.

The only “message” I can see such a voter sending is bragging to others that they’re not beholden to “the Duopoly.” They certainly aren’t sending a message to either major party.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 20, 2024 • 2:08:59am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The only “message” I can see such a voter sending is bragging to others that they’re not beholden to “the Duopoly.” They certainly aren’t sending a message to either major party.

That was basically his argument. ‘Democrats are just as bad as Republicans. Biden is just as bad as Trump. Look at all the shit that has happened in the last 50 years. Democrats helped make things worse.

“A plague on both their houses.”

Which I pointed out to him is true but also, in this case, irrelevant. If Trump wins things will get much worse and the purity pony’s message will probably get him killed.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 20, 2024 • 2:10:19am

re: #75 silverdolphin

Stick With Bibi or Jump Ship? The Haredi Dilemma That Will Seal Netanyahu’s Fate

Is Bibi’s government coming apart? It certainly does not look sustainable.

Is Bibi finally on his ninth life? Everytime I think that cat is finished and on his way to prison, somehow he regains power like one of the undead.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 2:24:58am

re: #85 Romantic Heretic

I finally got an answer from the purity pony I’ve been ‘debating’ about voting third party.

He’s voting third party, he claims, to ‘send a message about corruption’. Rolled my eyes so hard I saw my brain.

A third-party candidate could never be corrupt.That’s just political science.
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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2024 • 2:28:30am

re: #85 Romantic Heretic

I finally got an answer from the purity pony I’ve been ‘debating’ about voting third party.

He’s voting third party, he claims, to ‘send a message about corruption’. Rolled my eyes so hard I saw my brain.

Ask him if he’s ever seen a comment(s) section on an electoral ballot where he could write out his “message” so that when the major parties wonder why they lost his vote, they’ll know it was about “corruption” and not about any of a fuckton of other issues that “protest” votes are lodged in favor or opposition to.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 2:29:34am

re: #90 Romantic Heretic

That was basically his argument. ‘Democrats are just as bad as Republicans. Biden is just as bad as Trump. Look at all the shit that has happened in the last 50 years. Democrats helped make things worse.

“A plague on both their houses.”

Which I pointed out to him is true but also, in this case, irrelevant. If Trump wins things will get much worse and the purity pony’s message will probably get him killed.

Except they are objectively not as bad as Republicans. I imagine you can’t get that message across though. How many physicians, women, and transgender persons have had to flee Democratic-run states? How many Democratic-run states suppressed death numbers from Covid-19? How many billionaire tax cuts have Democrats passed or promoted? Which Democratic administrations have tried to ban books and shut down public libraries and schools? (the list goes on)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 2:33:55am
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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2024 • 2:35:13am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you can do things like that in a parliamentary system. An awful lot of populist parties gained a lot of votes in Europe through protest voters.

These populist parties have almost never been part of any government, so they can campaign on promises and rhetoric rather than record.

Two nations that where the populists actually lost seats in the EU parliament (Slovakia and Hungary) are ones which have had such governments in power.

British politics is a prime example of how easy it is to form “protest” parties who gain a few hundred or thousand votes overall but never win seats and thus can promise or oppose whatever they like knowing that it’s all a laugh. After all, what are the odds that anybody here in the US would take somebody calling himself “Lord Binface” seriously? Or the “Official Monster Raving Loony” Party which has never won a seat yet always stands at least one candidate per general election?

Really, this is the first general election in ages where people are treating seriously the idea that not only can the Lib Dems carry a statistically significant number of seats, but that they might actually replace the Conservatives as the opposition party when Labour forms a government next month. And it is all thanks largely to two other “protest” parties, UKIP and Reform UK, whose ability to draw the nativist vote away from the Tories has pretty much doomed them as a major party for next 1-2 general elections.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 20, 2024 • 3:07:39am

re: #85 Romantic Heretic

He’s sending a message that he’ll be just fine under a second Trump regime and couldn’t care less about the negative repercussions Trump’s policies are going to have on minorities and vulnerable people.

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2024 • 3:09:51am

re: #97 Patricia Kayden

He’s sending a message that he’ll be just fine under a second Trump regime and couldn’t care less about the negative repercussions Trump’s policies are going to have on minorities and vulnerable people.

Ayep. One of the assholes who will puff up his chest and proudly state “I survived four years, I can survive another four!”

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silverdolphin  Jun 20, 2024 • 3:25:07am

re: #90 Romantic Heretic

That was basically his argument. ‘Democrats are just as bad as Republicans. Biden is just as bad as Trump. Look at all the shit that has happened in the last 50 years. Democrats helped make things worse.

“A plague on both their houses.”

Which I pointed out to him is true but also, in this case, irrelevant. If Trump wins things will get much worse and the purity pony’s message will probably get him killed.

Few of these people want to put in the work to actually change things. Lazy SOBs just like to complain. Don’t like the Democrats? Get out there and change things by working your butt off. How about getting a real nationwide Green party for all state offices rather than simply a Presidential one every 4 years. Where are the Green Senators and Representatives?

Texas used to be a one party state. I saw both my parents work for almost a decade in the 60s to make the Republican party viable there (it was a much different GOP then, before the conservatives took over in 1980). They helped make it a 2 party state for a while, removing a lot of the corruption of a single-party state. They were both terribly dissapointed in their last years in what the GOP has become.

And this brings up a good point - neither party is the same as it was 10, 20, 30 years ago. And, with hard work, they won’t be the same in a decade. Hardworking people change the parties. Whiners do not.

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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 3:40:44am

re: #90 Romantic Heretic

That was basically his argument. ‘Democrats are just as bad as Republicans. Biden is just as bad as Trump. Look at all the shit that has happened in the last 50 years. Democrats helped make things worse.

“A plague on both their houses.”

Which I pointed out to him is true but also, in this case, irrelevant. If Trump wins things will get much worse and the purity pony’s message will probably get him killed.

Voting third party for everything or just prez?

It’s a meaningless, throwaway statement. Which Dems or Rs? All of them? At all levels of government? In every state and jurisdiction? No, that’s just lazy “I don’t really have anything” posturing.

It’s already been pointed out sending a message to who? Who’s listening? What are they gonna do with this brilliant insight?

And it still misses the basic problem esp at the prez level: one of the two *will* be president. Who do you prefer to govern you. One of them must be better, or alternatively less bad. If you say you don’t care or it doesn’t matter you’re not paying attention and again just being lazy. That makes you a enabling contributor to the system you abhor.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 3:44:12am

Friday is birb day.
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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 3:44:20am

re: #98 Targetpractice

Ayep. One of the assholes who will puff up his chest and proudly state “I survived four years, I can survive another four!”

And after those 8 years how exactly have you moved an inch closer to your stated goal?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 3:53:51am

re: #101 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Hard mode, high contrast mode, 4/6 (I still know too many five-letter words)

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:00:55am

Thursday morning weather that you can wear drive time music, and still no a/c in the office. This video will put a smile on your face!

Dehd - Mood Ring (Official Video)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:02:47am
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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:03:19am

re: #102 Dangerman

And after those 8 years how exactly have you moved an inch closer to your stated goal?

These are ones partial to the (il)logic that we all probably heard at least once in our lives, that if things are made shitty enough by a Republican in the WH, then the voting public will so hunger for a “true progressive” that either the Dems will be forced to embrace one as their nominee or watch as a third party wins the presidency in their place.

The same ones who will tell you with absolute conviction that the system is “rigged” so that third parties can never win, but also that all it would take for a Sanders or Stein to win the presidency would be every Dem changing their vote in “protest.” The sort of intellectual titans who think that the sum total of the “representative” in “representative democracy” is that you vote for someone and if they don’t live up to your expectations, then you just wait a few years and try again.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:05:32am

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A strange inversion of the old saying Like master, like pupil.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:06:14am

NHC 7-Day Graphical Tropical Outlook

A tropical wave has formed over Honduras. The National Hurricane Center gives it a 50% chance of becoming a tropical cyclone as it moves into the same area as Tropical Storm Alberto now.

Invest 92L is now north of the southern Bahamas. The track has been tightened, and the NHC predicts it will approach the coastline of north Florida or Georgia by the end of the period.

Tropical Storm Warning Flag
Tropical Storm Alberto is just off-shore from Tamaulipas. Tropical storm-force winds are well-inland in Mexico, and the extreme southern tip of Texas. The tropical storm warning has been dropped for the Texas coast.
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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:11:04am

I think I can smell it from here.

Visitors to Kew Gardens are still able to catch a glimpse - and whiff - of its titan arum plant, otherwise known as the corpse flower, after it burst into bloom on Tuesday.
The flower, which is said to stink like rotting flesh, usually only emerges once every two years.
The famous south-west London botanic gardens says it often attracts thousands of visitors whenever the titan arum flowers, who hope to experience the “magnificent sight and disgusting stench”.
The attraction extended its opening hours on Tuesday, but told the BBC the bloom would likely only last until the end of Wednesday.

bbc.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:16:38am

re: #104 Shropshire Slasher

Thursday morning weather that you can wear drive time music, and still no a/c in the office. This video will put a smile on your face!

Well, it’s an interesting tune, but I’m not sure if the video left a smile on my face; more like a puzzled look.

To be fair though, most videos leave me that way.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:17:28am
Pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly warning in an open letter on Thursday about the dangers of fake and compounded versions of its diabetes and weight loss medications Mounjaro and Zepbound.

The company also announced new lawsuits against wellness centers and medical spas advertising these drugs.

Eli Lilly’s main competitor, Novo Nordisk, which sells Ozempic and Wegovy, has also filed lawsuits against med spas purportedly selling knockoff versions.

Both companies say the extraordinary demand for these drugs has led to shortages, which has in turn prompted black and grey market sales of other versions of their products that may pose a health risk to consumers.

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Eli Lilly says that the company has done testing of compounded versions of their drug, and they have observed safety, sterility and efficacy problems. Some of the products have bacteria, high impurities, different colors or a completely different chemical structure than the company’s FDA-approved medicine. In at least one instance, the product was nothing more than sugar alcohol, Eli Lilly said.

abcnews.go.com

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:18:20am

These are the same clowns that douse artwork with soup.

Two climate activists have been arrested at Stonehenge in England after spraying orange paint on the well-known historic landmark.

The group Just Stop Oil took credit for the Wednesday action, which they said was a call on the United Kingdom to stop the use of fossil fuels by 2030.

“Continuing to burn coal, oil and gas will result in the death of millions. We have to come together to defend humanity or we risk everything,” Just Stop Oil said in a press release.

The group said the orange cornflour used on the monument would wash away in the rain.

It identified the two activists responsible as University of Oxford student Niamh Lynch, 21, and Birmingham resident Rajan Naidu, 73.

The Wiltshire Police confirmed that officers arrested two people on suspicion of damaging Stonehenge.

The action took place just one day before the summer solstice — the longest day of the year — when thousands of people are expected to descend upon the historic monument.

npr.org

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:25:13am

re: #98 Targetpractice

Ayep. One of the assholes who will puff up his chest and proudly state “I survived four years, I can survive another four!”

Will they, though? Anyone who doesn’t vote for Trump, in his eyes, is an enemy of the state, and must be jailed or killed. That includes the protest voters; he doesn’t understand or care that their inaction got him elected, they didn’t vote for him, that is a punishable crime. Make no mistake: If we elect Trump, and he starts initiating political pogroms, third-party purity pony bros are on the list right alongside Democrats. There is literally no benefit to be gained from protest voting in this election. None. You will not survive another Trump presidency.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:25:25am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:28:03am

Splinter party votes/abstentions do send a powerful message: “We choose to remain irrelevant.”

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:30:07am
A Los Angeles jury on Monday awarded a woman $900 million in damages in her sexual assault case against the heir to a Coca-Cola bottling fortune, her attorney announced.

The woman, who was identified as a Jane Doe in her lawsuit against Alkiviades “Alki” David, alleged she was harassed and raped over a three-year period from 2016 to 2019, according to her attorney.

“It’s so despicable, the facts of this case. He raped my client while on trial in another case,” said her attorney, Gary Dordick.

latimes.com

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:32:33am

Another 50/50 down the drain.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:33:41am

re: #113 Nerdy Fish

You will not survive another Trump presidency.

I pointed this out to him at one point.

His reply was, “Yeah. I’ve heard that before. Didn’t happen so it won’t happen this time either.”

Ow! I just saw my brain again.

Also, I note this guy is as white as I am. Unlike me he believes this will protect him. Again, Ow!

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:34:42am

re: #115 Decatur Deb

To which the people chasing power say, “Thanks that you chose not to make a difference.”

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:36:10am

re: #118 Romantic Heretic

I pointed this out to him at one point.

His reply was, “Yeah. I’ve heard that before. Didn’t happen so it won’t happen this time either.”

Ow! I just saw my brain again.

Also, I note this guy is as white as I am. Unlike me he believes this will protect him. Again, Ow!

We survived the first time because of incompetence and restraint, neither of which he will exhibit the second time. He has several power-hungry and intelligent fascists lined up with plans already in place to be key advisers, and he has no intention of wearing kid gloves in this term; it’s going to be an all-out assault on anyone who has wronged him. It amazes me that people don’t see this, when he’s literally saying it out loud every single day.

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Randall Gross  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:36:34am

Andy Prieboy on why he’s releasing his library including “White Trash Wins Lotto”

Andy Prieboy talks ‘White Trash Wins Lotto’

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:39:23am

The only isolated thunderstorm in the Nebraska Panhandle is hitting us.

windy.com

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:39:37am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
This is the best video. Men Without Hats. Why set in faux Renaissance setting?

‘The Safety Dance’: The Story Behind Men Without Hats’ New Wave Classic

Men Without Hats - Safety Dance (HD 720p)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:43:43am

re: #120 Nerdy Fish

The scary part is that otherwise capable or at least competent Republicans have been forced to realize their political success depends upon jumping on the Trump train.

The desire for power (about which I believe Tolkien had something to say) will lead the Republican machinery and their sugar daddies to doom us.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:46:14am

Watch the video, scary.

A retired physician is “lucky to be alive” and credits his bike for saving his life after he and another cyclist were mowed down in a brazen hit-and-run near a Texas airport on Monday.

Benjamin Hylander, a 31-year-old cargo team member at American Airlines, is accused of running over cyclists Tom Geppert, 69, and Deborah Eads, 65, who were part of a group of bikers riding around Dallas-Fort Worth International Aiport at 6 p.m.

Hylander was seen rapidly approaching the riders in his white Subaru Forested, initially striking Eads before clipping Geppert’s back tire, which launched him into the left lane until he fell to the road.

“All of a sudden, something pushes me from behind,” Geppert told KDFW. “Then I could feel myself falling from the right, and then that’s pretty much the last thing I remember.”

Geppert said he lost consciousness for a few minutes in the horrifying crash.

nypost.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:48:13am

And speaking of doom:

Fossil fuel use reaches global record despite clean energy growth

The world’s consumption of fossil fuels climbed to a record high last year, driving emissions to more than 40 gigatonnes of CO2 for the first time, according to a global energy report.

Despite a record rise in the use of renewable energy in 2023, consumption of fossil fuels continued to increase too, an annual review of world energy by the Energy Institute found.

Juliet Davenport, the president of the Energy Institute, said the report had revealed “another year of highs in our energy-hungry world” including a record high consumption of fossil fuels, which rose by 1.5% to 505 exajoules.

[…]

Overall, fossil fuels made up 81.5% of the world’s primary energy last year, down only marginally from 82% the year before, according to the report, even as wind and solar farms generated record amounts of clean electricity.

The report, authored by consultants at KPMG and Kearney, found that wind and solar power climbed by 13% last year to reach a new record of 4,748 terawatt hours in 2023.

But that was not enough to match the world’s growing consumption of primary energy, which rose 2% last year to a record high of 620 exajoules and led to more fossil fuel use.

The review found that the world’s appetite for gas remained steady in 2024 while consumption of coal climbed by 1.6% and oil demand rose by 2% to reach 100m barrels a day for the first time.

[…]

Well, so much for natural gas removing the need for coal.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 4:55:18am

re: #123 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

This is the best video. Men Without Hats. Why set in faux Renaissance setting?

Oh man I hated that song when it was on heavy rotation. Friends called the band “Men without Talent.”

Renfaire settings seemed popular at that time.

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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:01:37am

re: #106 Targetpractice

[1] that if things are made shitty enough by a Republican in the WH, then the voting public will so hunger for a “true progressive” that either the Dems will be forced to embrace one as their nominee or watch as a third party wins the presidency in their place.

[2] all it would take for a Sanders or Stein to win the presidency would be every Dem changing their vote

exactly

so when has [1] ever happened? i mean specifically by virtue of voting third party and thus the R winning who otherwise wouldnt have which next time swung it - not D - but progressive D? i’d settle for proof at any level, not just prez, cause it never happened there.

and [2] is just revisiting the silly place we had to deal with in ‘16

if everyone voted for *my* guy he’d have the most votes and we’d win, yay.

duh. that’s mathematics. it’s not politics nor a reason to vote for someone.

bernie tried it. he did it right. and he lost because enough people werent buying what he was selling.

goes hand in hand with the ‘step aside’ argument. i cant win against an old experienced pol that so many people support so they shouldn’t run. then i can win. maybe.

this is all freshman college politics. dreaming the system should be different than it is and then doing nothing to change it but wishing…

had a nice row this morning
thought about none of this for 40 minutes
coffee. now i need coffee

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:05:44am

An unusual cover of Crowded House. (3:43)

Don’t Dream It’s Over Official Video Sixpence None The Richer

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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:06:13am

re: #118 Romantic Heretic

I pointed this out to him at one point.

His reply was, “Yeah. I’ve heard that before. Didn’t happen so it won’t happen this time either.”

Ow! I just saw my brain again.

Also, I note this guy is as white as I am. Unlike me he believes this will protect him. Again, Ow!

i dont wear a seat belt and i’ve never had an accident. that’s not how any of this works

how many times in business i’ve heard ‘we’ve always done it this way and we’ve never had a problem’.

sure, because you’re leaving out the ‘yet’

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:10:19am

Am I implying that today’s GOP politicians have been ringwraiths?

Why yes, I am saying today’s GOP politicians have become ringwraiths.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:10:47am

re: #23 jaunte

Steve Benen @stevebenen.bsky.social

Micah @rincewind.run

Grudgie the Whale @grudgie.bsky.social

Any business leader who meets with a convicted felon who is trying to extort them into doing what Trump wants (give him money, and he’ll give you tax cuts) should be fired for gross incompetence. The fact that they’re even meeting with a convicted felon is a sign that they have lost all touch with reality.

That should be the topline result from all of these discussions and analysis of all of these “meetings”.

Trump is acting like a mobster calling on businesses to do what he wants or he’ll burn the joint down.

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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:10:50am

for your dining and dancing pleasure,

DJT is down 12% premarket
DJTWW is down 18

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:13:44am

re: #126 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And speaking of doom:

Fossil fuel use reaches global record despite clean energy growth

Well, so much for natural gas removing the need for coal.

How much of that is cryptocurrency mining? /half

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:20:01am

re: #133 Dangerman

for your dining and dancing pleasure,

DJT is down 12% premarket
DJTWW is down 18

Still love Civilization IV, but DJT is becoming my new favorite video game.

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jeffreyw  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:24:02am

Good morning!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:25:16am

re: #85 Romantic Heretic

I finally got an answer from the purity pony I’ve been ‘debating’ about voting third party.

He’s voting third party, he claims, to ‘send a message about corruption’. Rolled my eyes so hard I saw my brain.

Outstanding. So you’re going to vote so that the single most corrupt person in the history of the US gets into office. Brilliant.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:29:10am

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How much of that is cryptocurrency mining? /half

Crypto and AI are the drivers of rapid energy demand growth for sure. Another theory I’ve noticed is that the rise of EVs as a legitimate alternative has scared oil industry CEOs enough to greatly lessened the chances of any future oil price spikes. The plan now going forward is to carefully manage oil and gasoline prices so as to not drive EV growth while at the same time maximizing profits.

As far as crypto and AI there should be legislation to require solar and wind installations either directly on site or investment into collective projects to offset the required energy demand.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:30:20am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hard mode, high contrast mode, 4/6 (I still know too many five-letter words)

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Quit whinging. You got it in four. That’s good. Solving is key. You got there. Sheesh.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:30:52am

re: #139 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Quit whinging. You got it in four. That’s good. Solving is key. You got there. Sheesh.

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I think we set expectations too high for ourselves sometimes.

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garzooma  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:36:56am

re: #131 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Am I implying that today’s GOP politicians have been ringwraiths?

Why yes, I am saying today’s GOP politicians have become ringwraiths.

Josh Marshall at TalkingPointsMemo has coined the term Dignity Wraiths:

Dignity Wraiths, Resilience and Democratic Character
[…]
…a stream of posts and tweets over several years about “dignity loss” and “dignity wraiths” and like things, a whole bespoke vocabulary or a running gag about this pattern we’re all aware of in which Trump demands of people an ever escalating series of humiliations, dignity losses and more. Trump requires it — that part alone isn’t hard to understand. It’s that people give it … lavishly and fulsomely. Soon you’ve got some guy you may not have agreed with but seemed like a reasonably self-possessed adult, and they’re saying “thank you, sir, may I have another” each time Trump comes up with a new insult name for them, praising his far-reaching intellect and encyclopedic knowledge of history, clapping obediently on his approach. Trump somehow casts a spell over these people and soon they’re like a desiccated dignity husk. It’s like he’s a dignity black hole that no one can re-emerge from.
[…]

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:41:34am

re: #140 Nerdy Fish

I think we set expectations too high for ourselves sometimes.

Sure. We challenge ourselves to do better (and I always challenge myself to do better than you! 😂) which is expected and perfectly fine! It’s the “I know too many words”, which only helps, honestly, that comes off as whining. Save those for when you fail.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:44:08am

re: #141 garzooma

Dark-horse VP candidate.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:45:26am

re: #143 Decatur Deb

Dark-horse VP candidate.

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Yes, but which one of them is that? That description perfectly fits most of the front runners.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:45:39am

re: #131 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Am I implying that today’s GOP politicians have been ringwraiths?

Why yes, I am saying today’s GOP politicians have become ringwraiths.

I’d go with glitching cylons. They have a plan, but botch it badly.

They have a plan, but are absolutely insane and fueled by Christian theocracy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:47:39am

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How much of that is cryptocurrency mining? /half

Not sure.

While many bytes have been spilled calling out crypto, I don’t know of any high-quality measures of the actual energy consumed.

In the US, data centers allegedly consume about 3% of all electricity generated.

However, crypto stuff may be done mostly in other countries. I can’t tell you how much, say, of Brazil’s electricity demand is due to crypto.

AI has the potential to make crypto look small, as far as energy consumption.

Apple’s plan to make AI on-device covers a limited set of functionality, which may increase a device’s energy consumption a little bit. But they are off-device partitioning the harder AI stuff, and while they will have their own data centers handle some of that, other user demands for AI will be sent to chatGPT and such.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:48:30am

re: #144 Nerdy Fish

Yes, but which one of them is that? That description perfectly fits most of the front runners.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:50:59am

re: #147 Decatur Deb

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 20, 2024 • 5:57:06am

If you have younger ones going off to college, Apple today came out with another back-to-school special for college students, with gift cards being sent out with purchases of Macs and iPads.

Combined with the regular education discount you’ll end up with the lowest cost on something like a MacBook, even beating Costco prices I believe.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:07:24am

Meanwhile, in Minsk….

Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko made an antisemitic statement Saturday during his government meeting in which he hinted at a connection between Jews and theft.

He referred to a corruption case involving his former aide, the governor of the Vitebsk region and former Minister of Agriculture and Food Igor Brylo, as well as dozens of other people. “There are 36 people on the list. Sorry, I don’t consider myself antisemitic, but more than half of them are Jewish. Do they have a special, privileged role, that they steal and do not think about their future? Do they have privileges? All peoples living in Belarus should be equal. Jews, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Russians and Poles,” Lukashenko said.

This is not the first antisemitic statement by Lukashenko, who has been called “the last dictator in Europe.” In 2007 he said that the Jews had turned the city of Bobruisk into a “pig sty” and that “this was founded as a Jewish city and you know how Jews treat the place they live in.” In July 2021 he said that the “whole world bows” to the Jews after the Holocaust. In December 2023 he said: “Armenians are smart people. There is not even one Jew there.”

ynetnews.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:12:36am

So, puttered around Ostrava today. There’s still about 10,000 without electricity, but that’s confined to the city center. Cleanup crews are working hard, and the power company is saying that power should be fully restored to all locations by tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.

There was some minor structural damage to an exhibition hall in the center, which is going to require some repairs but thankfully, no serious damage recorded anywhere beyond some trees down.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:18:29am

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

That is good to hear.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:29:53am

Mt. St. Helens appears to have its lava source recharging under the slumbering volcano. Of course media outlets are going all hyperbolic, but this is a normal phase in the volcano’s history. It ebbs and flows, but the worrying signs of a growing bulge or dome in the caldera aren’t apparent at this time.

pnsn.org

They have some neat visuals, including a surface plot of where the earthquakes registered, as well as a cross section that shows how far underground they’re seeing the quakes occur.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:32:29am

re: #153 lawhawk

You’re not doing this right. Where are the hysterics? It’s not proper reporting if there aren’t hysterics.

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jeffreyw  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:34:56am

"a guy called in sick to work today telling me he has anal glaucoma. i said what the hell is anal glaucoma? he said its when you cant see your ass coming to work today"

lahiah (@scribblescourge.bsky.social) 2024-06-19T12:17:15.635Z

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William Lewis  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:38:02am

re: #114 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Computer stuff (20:04)

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Really good info, well presented overall but the vocal was a bit off putting for me. Not sure why.

Thank you for the posting.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:41:58am

Cuckoo For Cocoa Puffs RFK endorsed Ayn Rand Paul for Senate GOP leader.

The cantankerous senator from Kentucky has reportedly gotten chummy with Kennedy. And Kennedy gushed on X about a “wonderful talk” he had with Paul and endorsed him for Senate GOP leader after Minority Leader Mitch McConnell announced his impending retirement this winter. (Paul never publicly indicated he was interested in the top job.)

notus.org

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:42:40am

re: #154 Nerdy Fish

Let me rephrase then.

OMG… Mt St Helens is shaking and shimmying because magma is on the move.

Dr. Evil would love to make the volcano his lair, because of all the magma moving. It’s in an above average earthquake period. Earthquakes are roiling the mountain.

skip down 12 paragraphs.

Volcanologists are not concerned…. Nearly all of the earthquakes in the vicinity of the mountain are unable to be felt by anyone.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:43:01am
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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:43:31am

SCOTUS Thursday decisions…. They drop at 10am ET.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:45:04am

re: #160 lawhawk

SCOTUS Thursday decisions…. They drop at 10am ET.

Oh God, that’s right. I still think they’re going to save the shittiest decisions for the end of the term, and dump them on us before flying off on their billionaire-funded vacations.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:46:32am

re: #160 lawhawk

SCOTUS Thursday decisions…. They drop at 10am ET.

T minus 15 minutes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:46:38am

re: #101 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Friday is birb day.
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Yep. 3 for me too!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:47:07am

Ah Summer arrives at 450PM Eastern 150 Pacific…

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:47:57am

re: #160 lawhawk

SCOTUS Thursday decisions…. They drop at 10am ET.

OK which bombshell hits first—Chevron overturned or Trump’s total immunity?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:49:29am

re: #102 Dangerman

And after those 8 years how exactly have you moved an inch closer to your stated goal?

Unfortunately for us, this time around, those voting third party may guarantee the end of our democracy and the permanent installation of an authoritarian regime with women losing health care decisions nationwide.

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darthstar  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:52:12am

re: #160 lawhawk

SCOTUS Thursday decisions…. They drop at 10am ET.

I’m trying not to think about it. Got a 7:05 call so I will be otherwise focused.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:54:02am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:56:43am
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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:56:52am
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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:57:51am

re: #170 Dangerman

Gee, it’s almost like we’ve been saying all along. Early polls are worthless, when the chips are down, the voters know where their bread is buttered. Trump isn’t magically growing his voter base, his cultists are all he has.

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William Lewis  Jun 20, 2024 • 6:59:19am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

An unusual cover of Crowded House. (3:43)

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Video

I liked that, shared it with my lady friend who commented: eh. I liked the original better, although it was never in my song favorites. You are just partial to female singers I’ve noticed. I’m partial to males. Probably normal. 😉

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:00:26am

re: #170 Dangerman

We’re the political junkies - here on LGF, as well as on other websites left, right and center. Now the folks who aren’t political junkies are starting to focus on the upcoming election and that greater focus will only increase after the conventions.

I’m thinking (and keeping my fingers crossed) that we’ll soon start to see Biden pulling ahead and not just nationally, but in the battleground states, too.

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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:02:05am

re: #38 jaunte

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:04:11am

United States has a good record on fighting pirates on the high seas.

‘Only Pirates Do This’: China Wields Axes and Knives in South China Sea Fight
The Chinese coast guard used dangerous new tactics in latest confrontation, the Philippine military says

Links to video, who needs words?
wsj.com

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:04:24am

re: #174 Dangerman

We know how Xtians will reply to that.

“If a man shall not work he shall not eat”

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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:05:24am

re: #176 Joe Bacon ✅

We know how Xtians will reply to that.

“If a man shall not work he shall not eat”

Uh, sir…I’m six years old.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:06:44am

re: #177 Dangerman

Uh, sir…I’m six years old.

Thanks to the efforts of Christopher Rufo repealing child labor laws get your lazy ass to work and pick those crops!

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:06:56am

re: #177 Dangerman

Uh, sir…I’m six years old.

“When I was six years old, my daddy stuck me under the sink with a pipe wrench and told me not to come out until the drain stopped leaking, or he’d beat the living tar out of me. What’s your excuse? Get to work!”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:06:57am

SCOTUSblog live feed:

scotusblog.com

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:07:31am

re: #177 Dangerman

Uh, sir…I’m six years old.

“That’s no excuse. You kids are just lazy.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:08:41am

re: #181 A Three Hour Tour

“That’s no excuse. You kids are just lazy.”

“You kids today, with your Instagraph and Tikety Tok! When I was your age, I had three jobs!!”

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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:10:32am

re: #182 Dr Lizardo

“You kids today, with your Instagraph and Tikety Tok! When I was your age, I had three jobs!!”

Three??
Luxury

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:15:32am

re: #183 Dangerman

Three??
Luxury

Like this skit, off In Living Color back in the day.

In Living Color : Hey Mon #1

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:16:58am

re: #136 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Perchography. How do you get them to stay? Oh, right. Food.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:18:14am

re: #49 mmmirele

Just a reminder, the Nicene Creed was proposed as a statement of faith at last week’s Southern Baptist Convention. It never came up for a vote, in part because Baptists have historically been anti-creedal. And because there are more than a few Baptist pastors who hold a view of the Trinity that is sub-Arian (the whole reason for the Nicene Creed in the first place). Explaining this would take a long time, but Jesus has to be subordinate to the Father, and because of that, women have to be subordinate to men.

I wish I was kidding. I am not.

When i was attending [Episcopal] church services, i always preferred the recitation of the Apostles Creed, as opposed to the Nicene Creed (was unable to discern reason for the choice by the priest) as it was shorter and the services were be over sooner.

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darthstar  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:21:53am
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darthstar  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:22:50am

Chickenshits.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:23:06am

re: #187 darthstar

Of course not. 🙄

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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:24:34am

re: #186 BeenHereAwhile

When i was attending [Episcopal] church services, i always preferred the recitation of the Apostles Creed, as opposed to the Nicene Creed (was unable to discern reason for the choice by the priest) as it was shorter and the services were be over sooner.

“Remember Stallion, you fight great but I’m a great fighter.”

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:24:55am

re: #188 darthstar

Chickenshits.

They’re waiting until the very last minute to do so, because they are fully on board with stalling his criminal cases until after the election. Fucking bastards. I honestly thought they wouldn’t help him, because they’d view him as competition for King of America, and power-mad Alito wouldn’t want to share. I don’t know if they think they can control him, or what their game is, but it’s shitty that we have to sit here and watch.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:25:31am

Looks like we’ll have to wait until tomorrow. According to the SCOTUSblog calendar, 21 June is the last day for opinions.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:26:32am

The big case handed down today was a tax case: Moore v US. : The MRT—which attributes the realized and undistributed income of an American-controlled foreign corporation to the entity’s American shareholders, and then taxes the American shareholders on their
portions of that income—does not exceed Congress’s constitutional authority. 7-2 (Thomas and Gorsuch dissenting). There were concurrences from Jackson, Barrett, and Alito.

There was an immigration case, decided 5-4 (Sotomayor, Jackson, Kagan, and Gorsuch in minority), dealing with notice and recission hearings.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:27:46am

The latest polls almost all have Biden in the lead, and most of America hasn’t seen Trump babble incoherently lately, but they will get their chance during the upcoming debate, if Trump doesn’t back out. I think Democrats can gear down from panic mode; the President has got this.

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darthstar  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:28:21am

re: #192 Dr Lizardo

Looks like we’ll have to wait until tomorrow. According to the SCOTUSblog calendar, 21 June is the last day for opinions.

What are they going to do, throw it from the window of Harlan Crow’s jet as they take off for the summer?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:29:16am

re: #195 darthstar

What are they going to do, throw it from the window of Harlan Crow’s jet as they take off for the summer?

Throw the casefiles on the tarmac as they close the cabin door, LOL 😄

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darthstar  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:30:18am

Key issues: Trump, Trump, and more Trump.

threads.net

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darthstar  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:31:04am

re: #197 darthstar

Key issues: Trump, Trump, and more Trump.

threads.net

Fuckin’ threads on Mastodon.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:31:16am

So SCOTUS is doing Chevron and Trump tomorrow?

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:31:42am

re: #194 No Malarkey!

The latest polls almost all have Biden in the lead, and most of America hasn’t seen Trump babble incoherently lately, but they will get their chance during the upcoming debate, if Trump doesn’t back out. I think Democrats can gear down from panic mode; the President has got this.

Keep the panic, and throw down the hammer - beat the GOP in to submission at every level, and make sure we not only hold the Senate and WH, but retake the House. Make it happen, and make sure that people understand that Congress is ineffective because the GOP have deemed it so.

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darthstar  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:31:59am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

So SCOTUS is doing Chevron and Trump tomorrow?

If you’re gonna fuck America, you need a lot of oil.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:32:18am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

So SCOTUS is doing Chevron and Trump tomorrow?

Which guarantees both will be bad news. They don’t hold decisions that people will feel indifferent or even favorable about.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:32:21am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe. They might extend to next week. I’d watch for that to happen. There’s still about 15 cases remaining.

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William Lewis  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:32:41am

re: #194 No Malarkey!

The latest polls almost all have Biden in the lead, and most of America hasn’t seen Trump babble incoherently lately, but they will get their chance during the upcoming debate, if Trump doesn’t back out. I think Democrats can gear down from panic mode; the President has got this.

No we can’t. This just means the GOP will get more desperate - there is nothing more dangerous than a cornered feral rat who knows euthanasia waits for him.

Until Biden is installed in his second term, there is a Democratic majority in both houses, the unconstitutional filibuster is gone and the court has been expanded to 13 - then, maybe, we can relax.

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dat_said  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:32:47am

We tried that third party thing here in Minnesota in 1998 by electing Jesse Ventura for governor mainly because of an action figure ad. I think we went about six weeks with the D’s and R’s cowering in fear until they figured out there was no compelling interest for them to listen to or work with Jesse. And, after Jesse got his pet peeve tax on ATVs repealed, I think all he cared about was sparring with the “jackals” in the press.

In other words, in this case voting third party “succeeded” but did not send a message or create any change.

Annoying Ventura ad behind private tags:

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No Malarkey!  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:33:09am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

So SCOTUS is doing Chevron and Trump tomorrow?

Maybe; SCOTUS can delay even longer if they want to.

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darthstar  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:33:29am

re: #200 lawhawk

Exactly…we need to beat Republicans across the board, and make at least the first half of President Biden’s second term an avalanche of progressive policy changes.

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William Lewis  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:34:29am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

So SCOTUS is doing Chevron and Trump tomorrow?

June 28th. Bet on it. And all of the Sleazy Six will be thousands of miles away when the riots start.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:35:06am

re: #126 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And speaking of doom:

Well, so much for natural gas removing the need for coal.

coal is cheap to mine and use, and is low-tech, ideal for places without a developed industry sector

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:37:01am

We are 2 points behind.

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:38:24am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

coal is cheap to mine and use, and is low-tech, ideal for places without a developed industry sector

Define ‘ideal’.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:39:14am

re: #204 William Lewis

No we can’t. This just means the GOP will get more desperate - there is nothing more dangerous than a cornered feral rat who knows euthanasia waits for him.

Until Biden is installed in his second term, there is a Democratic majority in both houses, the unconstitutional filibuster is gone and the court has been expanded to 13 - then, maybe, we can relax.

I’m not saying we should relax, but we don’t have to despair, or entertain desperate, kooky ideas like trying to replace President Biden on the ticket at the last minute. We’re winning; we just have to remain vigilant and continue to work our butts off to finish the job.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:39:16am

re: #210 Decatur Deb

We are 2 points behind.

We never take our foot off the gas. Even once Biden is back in the White House, even once we have both houses of Congress, even once the Calvinball Court has been neutered - we don’t stop there. We keep pushing. Because that’s the right thing to do for the country. We can’t rest, or the bad guys will come back and try to undo everything we’ve done.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:39:57am

re: #176 Joe Bacon ✅

We know how Xtians will reply to that.

“If a man shall not work he shall not eat”

“…and that applies to his children as well!!!”

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:41:48am

Ignore the polls and always act as though you’re down 2. GOTV. GOTV.

I repeat.

GOTV.

That’s what matters. Everything hangs in the balance on that very thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:42:53am

re: #211 wrenchwench

Define ‘ideal’.

the financial threshhold is low for countries with limited means and resources

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:43:53am

re: #215 lawhawk

Ignore the polls and always act as though you’re down 2. GOTV. GOTV.

I repeat.

GOTV.

That’s what matters. Everything hangs in the balance on that very thing.

The polls may give us peace of mind so we can sleep at night, but during the day, we need to work like our lives depend on it. Because they do.

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William Lewis  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:43:56am

re: #210 Decatur Deb

We are 2 points behind.

We are always 2 points behind.

We need to make every GOP bastard look over their shoulder and hear us saying to them “”I am the righteous hand of god, and the devil that you forgot”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:44:24am

re: #215 lawhawk

Ignore the polls and always act as though you’re down 2. GOTV. GOTV.

I repeat.

GOTV.

That’s what matters. Everything hangs in the balance on that very thing.

and make sure those votes are properly counted, tallied, validated and certified. The militian have ade it clear that they will not shrink from violence or hijacking voting machines and ballot boxes if they suspect “foul play”.

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:45:08am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the financial threshhold is low for countries with limited means and resources

So, short term accessibility.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:47:23am

re: #198 darthstar

Fuckin’ threads on Mastodon.

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In other words, he’s watching Fox News and OAN for debate prep.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:50:41am

re: #220 wrenchwench

So, short term accessibility.

We are being sold the notion that environmentalists all want us to live in lean-tos, eat berries and wipe our butts with leaves.

The point is, however that fossil fuels are outdated technology, their supporters are the ones holding us back in the 19th and 20th centuries while the true path to the future is through renewables and alternatives, environmental concerns notwithstanding.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:51:08am

re: #123 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

This is the best video. Men Without Hats. Why set in faux Renaissance setting?

‘The Safety Dance’: The Story Behind Men Without Hats’ New Wave Classic

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Their tarantella.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:55:43am

"Immigration is a positive good. We're fortunate that so many talented, ambitious people want to come here to work and raise families. Biden’s program to help undocumented spouses is a step forward. But Dems should do more to push back on Trump's hate."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.bsky.social) 2024-06-20T14:53:51.825Z

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:57:38am

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2024 • 7:58:07am

Partridge. Wordle 1,097 4/6*

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:06:36am
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JC1  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:13:37am

re: #171 Nerdy Fish

Gee, it’s almost like we’ve been saying all along. Early polls are worthless, when the chips are down, the voters know where their bread is buttered. Trump isn’t magically growing his voter base, his cultists are all he has.

And these are still registered voter polls. Biden is stronger with likely voters.

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jeffreyw  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:14:37am

I don't know if I can get behind this.
#startrek #dadjoke #theresheblows

Yet Another Broken World (@anotherbrokenworld.bsky.social) 2024-06-18T19:00:06.000Z

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A Cranky One  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:17:07am

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dat_said  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:21:36am

Just a friendly reminder - bring your sunscreen and insect repellent if you plan on participating in Naked Hiking Day activities today during the summer solstice.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:26:58am

re: #231 dat_said

Watching out for sharp rocks would also be advisable.

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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:27:32am

re: #198 darthstar

Fuckin’ threads on Mastodon.

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so…winging it

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:28:48am

re: #233 Dangerman

so…winging it

doesn’t matter, his supporters will insist that he triumphed and the networks will do Cracker Barrel interviews to confirm the same

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No Malarkey!  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:32:37am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

doesn’t matter, his supporters will insist that he triumphed and the networks will do Cracker Barrel interviews to confirm the same

But the people who watch the debate will see Trump babble incoherently, and tell others. The more Trump is exposed to voters, the more they are repelled by him.

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jeffreyw  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:34:01am
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Florida Panhandler  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:34:46am

re: #230 A Cranky One

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No. Convicted Felon Trump between Putin and Kim is probably looking to somehow hook up a 3-way.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:35:18am

re: #200 lawhawk

Keep the panic, and throw down the hammer - beat the GOP in to submission at every level, and make sure we not only hold the Senate and WH, but retake the House. Make it happen, and make sure that people understand that Congress is ineffective because the GOP have deemed it so.

AND state and local governments. We have to show people government can work for the people if you eradicate republicans from office.

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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:36:12am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

doesn’t matter, his supporters will insist that he triumphed and the networks will do Cracker Barrel interviews to confirm the same

he can solidify his base all he wants
it wont earn him one more vote

the question is how many undecideds will commit to him

or any changeovers from biden (i think about zero)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:36:28am

re: #235 No Malarkey!

But the people who watch the debate will see Trump babble incoherently, and tell others. The more Trump is exposed to voters, the more they are repelled by him.

Any rational person with access to (non-Fox) media knows that already.

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:39:22am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:40:13am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’m excited to see how effective Joe will be at getting under TFGs skin.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:40:55am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Any rational person with access to (non-Fox) media knows that already.

There is a very large block of Americans who watch no news at all. Some of them will turn on the debate and see Trump for the first time in years for more than a few seconds.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:43:04am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m excited to see how effective Joe will be at getting under TFGs skin.

I think his strategy will be to turn DJK into Barney Fyfe while himself remaining Andy Griffith.

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2024 • 8:56:59am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the financial threshhold is low for countries with limited means and resources

Correct-a-mundo. NatGas needs pipeline infrastructure to move it around, but coal only needs RRs, and most countries have choo-choos. Lots of choo-choos.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:03:35am

re: #245 austin_blue

Correct-a-mundo. NatGas needs pipeline infrastructure to move it around, but coal only needs RRs, and most countries have choo-choos. Lots of choo-choos.

and ovens

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:03:50am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:14:38am

Hard to believe it’s Colin Farrell under that makeup, but damn if he doesn’t sell it. His portrayal of Penguin was fantastic in The Batman.

The Penguin | Official Teaser 2 | Max

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jeffreyw  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:16:33am
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:17:46am

re: #249 jeffreyw

A new spin on playing with your food.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:19:07am

Lionsgate has picked up Megalopolis - it’s slated for release in US cinemas (including IMAX) this September.

indiewire.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:19:47am

re: #251 Dr Lizardo

That’s Coppolas new movie, isn’t it?

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jeffreyw  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:20:31am

re: #250 PhillyPretzel ✅

A new spin on playing with your food.

I am reminded to check the TP supply.

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:21:33am

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s Coppolas new movie, isn’t it?

Yes.

It’s another love it or hate it, reading reviews out of Cannes.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:26:00am

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s Coppolas new movie, isn’t it?

Yep. Looks gloriously insane.

Megalopolis - Teaser Trailer

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:30:31am

England 1, Denmark 0.

Apparently, the Pitch is in absolutely horrible condition, lots of slipping and divots flying.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:36:48am

re: #117 Nerdy Fish

Another 50/50 down the drain.

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2024 • 9:46:44am

Denmark tie the match at 1-1 on an absolute screamer from the Danes’ striker, Hjulmund. Also, poor defending by England.

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:06:45am

Screenshot. Here’s the link to Merkley’s nice looking page.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:13:55am

Quiet day, today, isn’t it?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:15:13am

re: #247 Joe Bacon ✅

A favorite that year.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:19:13am

re: #260 A Three Hour Tour

Quiet day, today, isn’t it?

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:21:10am

Happy Elden Ring DLC Day to those that practice.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:26:32am

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:28:52am

re: #264 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Because the dangerous ones are hiding behind the religious curtain.

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:30:57am

re: #265 PhillyPretzel ✅

Because the dangerous ones are hiding behind the religious curtain.

And pointing, and saying, ‘Look over there!

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William Lewis  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:31:48am

Yet another photo page. Noticed a bit of a change to one my Usual Suspects today.

Check it out if you’ve nothing better to do.

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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:32:03am

re: #260 A Three Hour Tour

Quiet day, today, isn’t it?

Too quiet, Wyatt

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:32:28am

From CNN: Donald Sutherland has died. RIP Mr Sutherland.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:33:20am

re: #264 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

If there were some alternate timeline where for centuries we gave unaccountable power and vast amounts of money to drag show performers, then they’d be the same threat as priests.

There’s just no such thing as “a person holds a position, and that position is wholesome such that the person is by extension, axiomatically trustworthy,” and any institution that pounds the lectern insisting that a title or a ritual makes a person above scrutiny should not be trusted.

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jeffreyw  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:33:28am

Nooo. 😭

#RIP Donald Sutherland, whose acting career spanned six decades including highly acclaimed films such as Don’t Look Now, M*A*S*H and The Hunger Games, has died aged 88.

He died in Miami after a long illness, confirmed by his representatives.
www.theguardian.com/film/article...

@GottaLaff (@gottalaff.bsky.social) 2024-06-20T17:20:35.658Z

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:35:31am

re: #270 The Ghost of a Flea

Admittedly this is a somewhat funnier timeline because at some point Henry II has to kneel in snow for a day before Sexytus the 4th, Mommy of the Church, to receive absolution after serving too much **** towards his kingly brothers in Christ.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:36:36am

One of the scariest endings to a movie….especially if you’re 7 years old:

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Dangerman  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:37:04am

re: #269 PhillyPretzel ✅

From CNN: Donald Sutherland has died. RIP Mr Sutherland.

Best line ever “60 feet of bridge I can pick up almost anywhere! Schmuck!”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:37:07am

Huh, I think that’s the first time I hit the censor bar.

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piratedan  Jun 20, 2024 • 10:50:42am

re: #274 Dangerman

he was in three of my guilty pleasure films:

The Dirty Dozen
Kelly’s Heroes
Animal House

guy could do anything, sinister to sophmoric…

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 20, 2024 • 11:37:45am

re: #271 jeffreyw

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RIP Donald


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