Video: Who Stumbled on the Oath?

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We’ve been hearing people bashing Barack Obama for “flubbing” his oath of office, but here’s the video—and you can see that it was Justice Roberts who messed it up, not Obama.

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ROBERTS: Are you prepared to take the oath, Senator?
OBAMA: I am.
ROBERTS: I, Barack Hussein Obama…
OBAMA: I, Barack…
ROBERTS: … do solemnly swear…
OBAMA: I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear…
ROBERTS: … that I will execute the office of president to the United States faithfully…
OBAMA: … that I will execute…
ROBERTS: … faithfully the office of president of the United States…
OBAMA: … the office of president of the United States faithfully…
ROBERTS: … and will to the best of my ability…
OBAMA: … and will to the best of my ability…
ROBERTS: … preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
OBAMA: … preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
ROBERTS: So help you God?
OBAMA: So help me God.
ROBERTS: Congratulations, Mr. President.

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439 comments
1 itellu3times  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 10:56:58am

So, queen of diamonds, ace of spades, which is it?

2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 10:57:06am

Huzzah Charles. Well played, and correct. Thank you.

3 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 10:57:51am

Who was on the grassy knoll?

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

4 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 10:58:24am

Hope Change Taxes!

5 jill e  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 10:58:44am

From Happy Catholic blog:

Congratulations President Obama from Your Loyal Opposition

Loyal opposition is the concept that one can be opposed to the actions of the government or ruling party of the day without being opposed to the constitution of the political system. —Wikipedia

6 KingKenrod  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 10:59:14am

Payback.

7 midwestgak  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 10:59:38am

Glad you got that cleared up early.

8 Buck  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 10:59:58am

More Nirther Bait?

9 S'latch  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:00:59am

This is really insignificant.

10 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:01:05am

While I was watching it live, it seemed obvious that Roberts stumbled first. I'll now go watch the replay.

11 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:01:31am

re: #9 Lawrence Schmerel

This is really insignificant.

Yeah, but you can bet someone will try to make massive amounts of hay with it.

12 right mind left  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:02:44am

I wonder what his definition of "execute" might be...

///

13 winston06  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:02:46am

No teleprompter for H?

14 formercorpsman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:02:53am

Didn't watch it, don't care.

Some people are not blessed with oratory skill, some are. Bush obviously was not, Clinton was, Reagan certainly was.

Having conversation hone in on petty tabloid issues like this allow for distraction.

I am much more worried about the real problems we face going forward.

Leave the drivel to the sycophants.

15 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:02:59am

re: #9 Lawrence Schmerel
Indeed - it is insignificant.

16 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:03:08am

It's a great day. The hands of government have peacefully changed. Democracy is alive and well in the United States of America.

17 gmsc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:03:11am

Message from the Nirth Certifikaters: "Time is running out, and we need your help!"

Ummm . . . How do we break this to them?

18 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:03:20am

Chief Justice Fumbles

19 S'latch  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:03:26am

Where does that adverb faithfully really go?

Where does that adverb faithfully go, really?

Really, where does that adverb faithfully go?

20 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:03:47am

Bush did it

21 rw in san diego  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:04:00am

It seems that their signals were crossed right at the beginning when they were out of sync on the pauses. That probably increased the nervousness. It seemed to me that Obama knew the oath and tried to repair the stumble and stumbled himself.

22 gmsc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:04:05am

Question: What happens when the oath is flubbed?

It the oath more symbolic? Or does flubbing it mean you don't qualify as president?

23 jill e  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:04:11am

A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him saying, "You are mad, you are not like us." —St. Anthony of Egypt

24 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:04:37am

re: #19 Lawrence Schmerel

Where does that adverb faithfully really go?

Where does that adverb faithfully go, really?

Really, where does that adverb faithfully go?

Nowhere near any description of how Obama has performed in every other elected position he has held.

25 Gearhead  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:04:54am

He flubbed the oath. He ain't really the prez!

///SARC

26 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:05:10am

re: #19 Lawrence Schmerel

Where does that adverb faithfully really go?

Where does that adverb faithfully go, really?

Really, where does that adverb faithfully go?

Here:

Youtube Video
27 gmsc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:05:30am

re: #19 Lawrence Schmerel

Where does that adverb faithfully really go?

Where does that adverb faithfully go, really?

Really, where does that adverb faithfully go?

Youtube Video
28 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:05:39am

On further review, I notice that BHO seems to interrupt Roberts on the first line, which probably threw them both off.
Either way it's a non-story, but it's kind of nice to see that even Obama is occasionally capable of errors that us mere mortals make all the time.

29 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:05:40am

I watched Jon Stewart last night on the Comedy Channel. He is still trying to tear into GW Bush, but somehow his comedy is just not funny. Will he find humor in BHO? Methinks his comedy days are numbered.

30 kateca  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:05:41am

This is almost as bad as the court-clerk flubbing up
"James Orinthol Simpson".

31 Rednek  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:05:41am

Iowahawk translates celebrity pledges

32 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:05:43am

re: #21 rw in san diego
Hey rw! Yes that's what I thought, too. But I still think it's much ado about nothing.
Obama's words could mean a lot; his actions WILL mean a lot.

33 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:05:51am

re: #22 gmsc

Question: What happens when the oath is flubbed?

It the oath more symbolic? Or does flubbing it mean you don't qualify as president?

I asked a similar question yesterday. I believe the real transfer of power happened last night but I have nothing to back that up. I was wondering because I heard a talking head who used to work in the White House talk about the football being transferred the night before the inauguration.

34 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:06:01am

More important? Get your free cosmetics this week. It has nothing to do with the Obama Inauguration and everything to do with a class action settlement with a bunch of cosmetics manufacturers and department stores who hosed consumers on prices for years.

35 S'latch  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:06:11am

re: #24 CyanSnowHawk

He was fairly faithful to the left as Senator. Less so as President Elect.

36 avanti  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:06:15am

They sort of talked over each other at the start, both nervous I'd bet. Look for talk that he not really President because of the oath screwup.

37 rw in san diego  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:06:16am

re: #32 realwest

I agree, much ado about nothing.

38 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:06:29am
WASHINGTON (CNN) — As his first official action after being sworn in, President Barack Obama signed three documents Tuesday, including a proclamation declaring a day of national renewal and reconciliation.

“I’m a lefty. Get used to it,” Obama quipped as he signed his name. “I was told not to swipe the pen.”

The past three presidents signed similar reconciliation proclamations upon being sworn in.

39 x-wing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:07:03am

re: #28 Lincolntf

That, and then he stopped in the middle of the next sentence. It was a mess.

40 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:07:10am

Roberts may have stumbled, but I blame it on his not having visited 57 States like Obama.

41 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:07:19am

re: #29 Golem Akbar
Gee Golem, sorry to say this, but I really thought that
Jon Stewart's comedy days were behind him oh about 3 years or so ago.
Without Bush he's in a tough, tough spot.
Hope he gets a rebate!

42 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:07:43am

Hillary Clinton and John Cornyn, who's delaying her floor confirmation vote have been having a fairly heated discussion just out of earshot under the Washington statue in the rotunda. Lots of hand gestures, back and forth and her squeezing his forearm.

43 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:07:55am

Nirth sertificat troofers claiming this invalidates the Oath of Office 5..4..3..2..

44 avanti  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:07:58am

re: #22 gmsc

Question: What happens when the oath is flubbed?

It the oath more symbolic? Or does flubbing it mean you don't qualify as president?

Take it to the Supreme Court and see how Roberts feels.:)

45 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:08:00am

This is a non-issue, but thanks very much, Charles, for posting the video.

Clearly labeled a non-issue!

/let the nirthy troof-spewing begin, my keyboard is covered, I'm ready to vomit.

46 snowcrash  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:08:00am

They both messed up. Next time they will use a teleprompter.

47 Tumulus11  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:08:08am

. Mr. Obama started to repeat the second line of oath as Chief Justice Roberts had said it.
Obama then paused and nodded to the Chief Justice, allowing Roberts to repeat the line with the word 'faithfully' in its correct spot.

48 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:08:43am

re: #46 snowcrash

They both messed up. Next time they will use a teleprompter.

Lets hope there is no next time.

49 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:08:44am

re: #42 faraway She was just trying to get him to take a stroll in the park with her!

50 Land Shark  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:09:07am

Whoose fault it was that there was a flub? GW Bush's fault, of course! Or maybe Karl Rove's. Yeah, that's it.

51 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:09:45am

re: #47 Tumulus11

. Mr. Obama started to repeat the second line of oath as Chief Justice Roberts had said it.
Obama then paused and nodded to the Chief Justice, allowing Roberts to repeat the line with the word 'faithfully' in its correct spot.

Actually, Roberts still got it wrong even when he repeated it:

ROBERTS: Are you prepared to take the oath, Senator?
OBAMA: I am.
ROBERTS: I, Barack Hussein Obama...
OBAMA: I, Barack...
ROBERTS: ... do solemnly swear...
OBAMA: I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear...
ROBERTS: ... that I will execute the office of president to the United States faithfully...
OBAMA: ... that I will execute...
ROBERTS: ... faithfully the office of president of the United States...
OBAMA: ... the office of president of the United States faithfully...
ROBERTS: ... and will to the best of my ability...
OBAMA: ... and will to the best of my ability...
ROBERTS: ... preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
OBAMA: ... preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
ROBERTS: So help you God?
OBAMA: So help me God.
ROBERTS: Congratulations, Mr. President.

52 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:09:59am

Classless Obama:

Our economy is badly weakened, a consequence of greed and irresponsibility on the part of some, but also our collective failure to make hard choices and prepare the nation for a new age.
53 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:10:11am

re: #46 snowcrash

They both messed up. Next time they will use a teleprompter.

They were, but the teleprompter was distracted by those two hot kinky I-Macs.

/paraphrasing Iowahawk

54 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:10:16am

re: #35 Lawrence Schmerel

He was fairly faithful to the left as Senator. Less so as President Elect.

Right up until he decided he didn't want to do that job anymore and jumped into the presidential race.

He strikes me as a stepping stone politician.

55 kynna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:10:23am

Why is anyone making an issue of the flub, regardless of who did it? Millions are watching, flubs will happen. It's only perfect when nobody else sees.

But I guess it will be used as evidence that Obama is smarter than even the SCCJ. Huzzah! Look for it. *eye roll*

56 tokyobk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:10:35am

Obama became president at 12:00 pm today while Yoyo Ma and Itzhak Pearlman were preforming. Oath or no oath. That's the law.

57 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:11:25am

Barack recognized the mistake. I guess he's been practicing for a few months now.

I hope he does well.

If doing well is too much, then I hope he's too incompetent to do bad.

But really, I hope he does well.

58 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:11:25am

re: #42 faraway

Hillary Clinton and John Cornyn, who's delaying her floor confirmation vote have been having a fairly heated discussion just out of earshot under the Washington statue in the rotunda. Lots of hand gestures, back and forth and her squeezing his forearm.

Fore(arm)play?

59 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:12:08am

Bad News Alert: Afghan Khyber Pass closed indefinitely after latest Taliban attack.

Mr. President. Tear down that Taliban.

60 Brisco County  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:12:09am

Well, 'Bamy, you're our guy now. Don't fuck it up.

61 oh_dude  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:12:17am

You people are too honest. I can't take it anymore!

62 bulwrk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:12:24am

Now that the trivial matter of the oath has been settled we can move on to the more important question of how many girls did Bill Clinton have time to hit on during the address.

63 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:12:29am

re: #58 CyanSnowHawk

Fore(arm)play?

I wanna know the wrist of what happened.

64 kansas  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:12:44am

Early Obama bashing is almost as ugly as the ongoing Bush bashing. How bout we get over it?

65 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:12:59am

re: #52 faraway

Our economy is badly weakened, a consequence of greed and ACORN and like irresponsibility on the part of some, but also our collective failure to make hard choices and prepare the nation for a new age understand that not everyone should own a home if they can not afford one.

66 kcladderman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:13:02am

re: #29 Golem Akbar

I watched Jon Stewart last night on the Comedy Channel. He is still trying to tear into GW Bush, but somehow his comedy is just not funny. Will he find humor in BHO? Methinks his comedy days are numbered.

He used to make fun of Clinton. We will have to wait and see how much of the materialAll of the comedians have used over the last eight years was a result of Bush being president or of their true dislike/hatred of him.
The president has always been open game for comedians though it did seem that some of the joke tellers had a true bona fide case of BDS.

67 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:13:13am

re: #29 Golem Akbar

I watched Jon Stewart last night on the Comedy Channel. He is still trying to tear into GW Bush, but somehow his comedy is just not funny. Will he find humor in BHO? Methinks his comedy days are numbered.

The Daily Show ceased being funny the day Craig Kilbourn left.

68 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:13:19am

re: #62 bulwrk

Now that the trivial matter of the oath has been settled we can move on to the more important question of how many girls did Bill Clinton have time to hit on during the address.

GIVE THAT MAN A CIGAR!

69 opnion  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:13:21am

I think that the interesting part is that he took the oath as Barack HUSSEIN Obama. To use his middle name during the campaign was labled as racist, which is interesting becuse the name Hussein you do not associate with African Americans.

70 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:13:35am

re: #43 Alouette

Nirth sertificat troofers claiming this invalidates the Oath of Office 5..4..3..2..

LOL1

71 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:14:05am

re: #16 Golem Akbar

It's a great day. The hands of government have peacefully changed. Democracy is alive and well in the United States of America.

I'm not so sure. While 0bama had an opponent, that opponent didn't run that well. For whatever reason, we didn't have two real choices; the 0ne was crowned long before the election.

72 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:14:24am

re: #50 Land Shark
Actually it was Dick Cheney's fault - his wheelchair squeeked so loudly I'm surprised no one mentioned it!

73 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:14:52am

re: #43 Alouette

Nirth sertificat troofers claiming this invalidates the Oath of Office 5..4..3..2..

Noath!

74 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:14:59am

Happy Birthday NY Nana!

*insert all those cool musical notes Trixie knows how to use*
Have some cake!

75 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:15:06am

re: #62 bulwrk

Now that the trivial matter of the oath has been settled we can move on to the more important question of how many girls did Bill Clinton have time to hit on during the address.

None. HRC was right there.

76 KenJen  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:15:09am

Chief Justice Roberts is hot.

77 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:15:12am

re: #68 pre-Boomer Marine brat

That must explain why Bill and Jimmy aren't fans. Bill must have asked about Amy Carter.

78 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:15:14am

Market down 225.

79 chicagodudewhotrades  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:15:14am

re: #62 bulwrk

His wife was next to him, he probably just discreetly handed females his cell number when Hill wasn't looking his way....

80 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:15:24am

re: #65 Opinionated

Our economy is badly weakened, a consequence of greed and ACORN and like irresponsibility on the part of some, but also our collective failure to make hard choices and prepare the nation for a new age understand that not everyone should own a home if they can not afford one.

Paging Barney Frank! Paging Barney Frank!


No Barney that doesn't mean we have a page here for you.

81 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:15:29am

This is creepy. Click on the Obama thumbnail for the full effect.

82 Dainn  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:15:33am

Oathgate!

There should be hearings! It was a plot!

83 Notutopia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:15:44am

Misquoted arrangement of words are insignificant....
What is most important now is that he has been officially sworn in as the 44th President of the United States of America and the clock is now ticking on his command and watch.
I have sworn my own personal oath to stand by our US
Constitution and to the allegiance of our New President.
For better or worse, we will see if this marriage will succeed and last for me. If, not, I'll file for a divorce.

84 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:15:49am

re: #71 Kosh's Shadow
The reason we didn't really have a choice in this election just won LGF's Fiskie award.

85 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:15:52am

re: #64 kansas

Early Obama bashing is almost as ugly as the ongoing Bush bashing. How bout we get over it?

It's never too early.

86 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:16:12am

Roberts flubbed it first, then corrected it and then the one flubbed the correction, repeating Roberts flub instead of Roberts correction.

87 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:16:15am

re: #63 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I wanna know the wrist of what happened.

You may have to finger it out for yourself.

88 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:16:32am

re: #78 Opinionated

Market down 225.

The market sure does love Obama in the Oval Office. It's bowing before him.

89 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:16:41am

re: #81 Who Watches the Watchmen?

This is creepy. Click on the Obama thumbnail for the full effect.

Has this guy been reported to the Secret Service?

90 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:17:39am

re: #83 Notutopia
"For better or worse, we will see if this marriage will succeed and last for me. If, not, I'll file for a divorce."
Whoa, not even a seperation agreement and counseling first?!?
:)

91 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:17:57am

re: #64 kansas

Good Lord, the speech police are already starting up. Nobody is making a big deal of this, it's just an obvious flub (by one or both, and Roberts was playing the lead so it's probably his responsibility to keep it tight) that occured in front of a massive audience so it's perfectly reasonable to discuss it.
]Must all criticisms of the man be considered "bashing"?

92 opnion  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:18:03am

When will Obama empty out Gitmo? If he asks for Americans to offer foster homes to the inmates, I strongly suggest that you decline.

93 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:18:15am

re: #85 faraway

It's never too early.

Show me the repeated depictions of Obama as a smirking chimp.

Seriously, Obama's derision/adulation ratio is LOW LOW LOW.

94 AuntAcid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:18:25am

re: #64 kansas

Early Obama bashing is almost as ugly as the ongoing Bush bashing. How bout we get over it?

No......and hell no!

95 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:18:42am

Rush is playing the sound of chiseling in marble as the Obama speech is replayed.

hahahaha

96 kcladderman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:18:43am

re: #77 lawhawk

That must explain why Bill and Jimmy aren't fans. Bill must have asked about Amy Carter.

I don't think even slick Willie would hit on Amy Carter.

97 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:19:00am

re: #86 newsjunkie_ky

Roberts flubbed it first, then corrected it and then the one flubbed the correction, repeating Roberts flub instead of Roberts correction.

Actually, no ... Roberts flubbed it again the second time. He still put the word "faithfully" in the wrong place.

98 right mind left  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:19:17am

The oath:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

The executor:
OBAMA: I, Barack...
OBAMA: I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear...
OBAMA: ... that I will execute...
OBAMA: ... the office of president of the United States faithfully...
OBAMA: ... and will to the best of my ability...
OBAMA: ... preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
OBAMA: So help me God.

Execute away!

99 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:19:22am

re: #97 Charles

Actually, no ... Roberts flubbed it again the second time. He still put the word "faithfully" in the wrong place.

It's a Republican plot.

100 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:19:27am

re: #95 faraway

Rush is playing the sound of chiseling in marble as the Obama speech is replayed.

hahahaha

Heh. That's more like Senator "Tombstone" Burris's style.

101 MarineGrunt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:19:50am

re: #14 formercorpsman

Didn't watch it, don't care.


Same here.

102 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:19:53am

re: #81 Who Watches the Watchmen? Uh, I'm sorry but I don't see anything creepy!
What are you talking about - you meant click on the Obama Fine Art print, right?!

103 opnion  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:20:03am

re: #91 Lincolntf

Good Lord, the speech police are already starting up. Nobody is making a big deal of this, it's just an obvious flub (by one or both, and Roberts was playing the lead so it's probably his responsibility to keep it tight) that occured in front of a massive audience so it's perfectly reasonable to discuss it.
]Must all criticisms of the man be considered "bashing"?

Right on, bashing Obama is fun & good for you. There are of course lines that should not be crossed, but other than that lets have at it!

104 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:20:04am

re: #64 kansas

Early Obama bashing is almost as ugly as the ongoing Bush bashing. How bout we get over it?

We know where he's been and we know where's he's going.

105 Notutopia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:20:07am

re: #90 realwest

"For better or worse, we will see if this marriage will succeed and last for me. If, not, I'll file for a divorce."
Whoa, not even a seperation agreement and counseling first?!?
:)

Nope. I had a prenup agreement.
: )

106 ThinkRight  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:20:13am

re: #97 Charles

Actually, no ... Roberts flubbed it again the second time. He still put the word "faithfully" in the wrong place.


Maybe that tingling got Roberts all flustered

107 winston06  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:20:26am

He's going to stumble every day on every thing for the next 4 yrs. We better get used to it.

108 right mind left  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:20:50am

re: #103 opnion

Right on, bashing Obama is fun & good for you. There are of course lines that should not be crossed, but other than that lets have at it!

It's a bash, right?

///

109 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:20:52am

re: #87 OldLineTexan

You may have to finger it out for yourself.

Heh
Going back to Cyan's initial question, about fore(arm)play ... there's another pun-line in there ... which I will not pursue.

/triggering the avalanche?

110 midwestgak  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:21:00am

Rush is playing back sound bites of Pres Obama's speech. Sounds of marble being chiseled in the background. HAHAHAHA

111 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:21:35am

re: #98 right mind left

The oath:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

The executor:
OBAMA: I, Barack...
OBAMA: I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear...
OBAMA: ... that I will execute...
OBAMA: ... the office of president of to the United States faithfully...
OBAMA: ... and will to the best of my ability...
OBAMA: ... preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
OBAMA: So help me God.

Execute away!

They both said ..President to the United States.

112 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:21:40am

re: #105 Notutopia
ROTFL! IF ONLY we had a pre-nup with him!

113 vxbush  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:22:04am

Late to the game, but did anyone explain why Cheney was in a wheelchair? I never heard an explanation for why.

114 midwestgak  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:22:05am

re: #95 faraway

Rush is playing the sound of chiseling in marble as the Obama speech is replayed.

hahahaha

Beat me to it #110

115 capitalist piglet  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:22:19am

re: #64 kansas

I won't bash Obama unless he has it coming (though I can't erase what I learned about him right here on this site during the election process)...but since leftists were singing that stupid-assed NANANA HEY HEY HEY song at President Bush today and throwing shoes at his image last night, I'm hardly in the mood to be overly charitable.

116 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:22:24am

re: #102 realwest

Uh, I'm sorry but I don't see anything creepy!
What are you talking about - you meant click on the Obama Fine Art print, right?!

Correct. I can't link directly to the print.

117 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:22:34am

I figured out why Roberts stumbled.

It was the middle name Hussein.

He was afraid he would be criticized by McCain and called a racist by the Media.

He didn't get the memo that post election it is permissible, actually welcomed.

118 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:22:36am

re: #100 Honorary Yooper

Heh. That's more like Senator "Tombstone" Burris's style.

I like that. I hadn't heard him referred to as Senator Tombstone.
Man that's good. That's gonna stick till death.

119 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:22:38am

re: #113 vxbush

Late to the game, but did anyone explain why Cheney was in a wheelchair? I never heard an explanation for why.

He hurt his back yesterday, moving boxes of stuff.

120 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:22:44am

re: #109 pre-Boomer Marine brat Nah, I'm telling ya Hillary was just asking him to take a stroll in the park!

121 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:22:46am
122 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:22:51am

re: #113 vxbush

Late to the game, but did anyone explain why Cheney was in a wheelchair? I never heard an explanation for why.

Rove cut his strings.

/moonbat

123 ThinkRight  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:23:01am

re: #113 vxbush

Late to the game, but did anyone explain why Cheney was in a wheelchair? I never heard an explanation for why.


He hurt his back moving boxes

124 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:23:01am

re: #111 Wishing

They both said ..President to the United States.

After the replay, the ruling on the field is changed. There are offsetting penalties.

125 right mind left  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:23:01am

re: #111 Wishing

They both said ..President to the United States.

Even better! He'll mark everything "Presendent"?

126 opnion  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:23:19am

re: #108 right mind left

It's a bash, right?

///

'They did the bash, they did the Monster Bash" God, I wish That I didn't type that.

127 avanti  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:23:22am

OK, I need to kiss up to Charles for a moment. Charles see a issue that needs correction, and makes the correction even if it may not advance his political slant. Stop and think for a moment if more on the right and left took that approach. Dreaming I know, but I'm just that naive.
I only think of that after seeing Bush and Obama both trying to their best for a smooth transition, regardless of their politics, class act.

128 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:24:07am

re: #61 oh_dude

You people are too honest. I can't take it anymore!

Lizards trade in honesty.

129 right mind left  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:24:16am

re: #113 vxbush

Late to the game, but did anyone explain why Cheney was in a wheelchair? I never heard an explanation for why.

He was shooting again? //

130 sngnsgt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:24:19am

re: #64 kansas

Just wait 'til something bash-worthy.

131 vxbush  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:24:20am

re: #119 Wishing

He hurt his back yesterday, moving boxes of stuff.

I did not know that. Thanks for the clarification (and to all the others who chimed in with the answer).

132 father_of_10  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:24:23am

re: #113 vxbush

Late to the game, but did anyone explain why Cheney was in a wheelchair? I never heard an explanation for why.

He hurt his back.. It is temporary.

133 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:24:34am

re: #116 Who Watches the Watchmen? Well can you at least describe what you saw?

134 Notutopia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:24:42am

re: #112 realwest

My prenup contract includes tangibles, annual fiscal responsibilitities, mission statement, objectives, and outcomes...not one mention of hopey changy.
: )

135 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:24:45am

re: #115 capitalist piglet

Hate to say "I told you so" (not to you, but to a bunch of fellow Lizrds whose names I've since forgotten), but I called the "shoe-tossing" trend the day that grubby weasel started it in Iraq.

136 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:24:47am

Re: chiseling the speech in marble ... I had a flash of an image a thread or so ago, when that first came up, of Williams Ayers busy as a beaver, replacing the names on the Vietnam Memorial with the words of Obama's speech.

137 right mind left  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:24:50am

re: #126 opnion

'They did the bash, they did the Monster Bash" God, I wish That I didn't type that.

ROFL!

138 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:25:43am

re: #134 Notutopia
Boy, y'all musta had a smart lawyer prepare that one!
:)

139 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:26:05am
140 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:26:09am

re: #119 Wishing

He hurt his back yesterday, moving boxes of stuff.

It was either that or he wanted to reinforce the Dr. Strangelove image.

141 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:26:18am

A NEW AGE BEGINS!

I haven't been this excited (read: stoned) since the Age of Aquarius...

Youtube Video
142 father_of_10  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:26:18am

So will Move On now be able to move on?

143 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:26:31am

re: #57 David IV of Georgia

Barack recognized the mistake. I guess he's been practicing for a few months now.


Countess Alexandrovna: You are the greatest lover I've ever had.
Boris: Well, I practice a lot when I'm alone.

144 samhein  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:26:32am

The Dow was down over 180 points just a few minutes ago to just above 8000.
Yep, this is all looking sooooo good. (gag!)
This is going to be a very LONG 4 years, I'm afraid.

145 opnion  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:26:39am

I see that HufPo put out some misinformation about the Obama Secret Service Code names.
I have it on good authority That BHO will be known as 'Ears Galore"
Michelle will be referred to as "Booty Aplenty"

146 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:26:44am

re: #142 father_of_10

So will Move On now be able to move on?

Exit stage left?

147 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:26:45am

BDS going strong as Bush appears on Inaugural stage

The crowd packed on the west side of the Capitol grounds serenaded President Bush in mocking fashion when he took to the inaugural stage alongside Vice President Dick Cheney.

"Nah nah nah nah, hey hey, good-bye," a section of the crowd chanted.

Stay classy, dems.

148 gmsc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:27:01am

So, back when the Great Depression was just starting, tent cities were derisively referred to as "Hoovervilles" and "Hoover Homes".

When 0bama drives us into the next Great Depression, what do we call them? "Barack's Barracks"?

149 seekeroftruth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:27:08am

re: #127 avanti

OK, I need to kiss up to Charles for a moment. Charles see a issue that needs correction, and makes the correction even if it may not advance his political slant. Stop and think for a moment if more on the right and left took that approach. Dreaming I know, but I'm just that naive.
I only think of that after seeing Bush and Obama both trying to their best for a smooth transition, regardless of their politics, class act.

I'd prefer it if the MSM would follow Charles's example.

150 sngnsgt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:27:08am

re: #139 Iron Fist

Its just words, in the end. What do words signify?

It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is. That's the Democrat take on oaths. They are meaningless.

Other than their owns interpretations of course.

151 MarineGrunt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:27:12am

re: #136 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Re: chiseling the speech in marble ... I had a flash of an image a thread or so ago, when that first came up, of Williams Ayers busy as a beaver, replacing the names on the Vietnam Memorial with the words of Obama's speech.

Over my dead body.

152 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:27:29am

re: #142 father_of_10
Nope, MoveOn.org is awaiting their chance to bitch and moan about Obama. They couldn't do or say anything constructive if they tried.

153 ThinkRight  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:27:33am

re: #140 CyanSnowHawk

It was either that or he wanted to reinforce the Dr. Strangelove image.


It was a test to see if Obama could heal him and after the oath was flubbed they decided the moment was gone

154 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:27:33am

If the correct meaning was said, regardless of the words, regardless of what was written, then the oath is valid.

If words conveying some meaning other than that of the written oath, then the oath would be questionable and wrong.

What was said, stumbles and all, conveyed the same meaning as the written traditional oath, so it is valid.

155 Notutopia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:27:41am

re: #138 realwest

Realwest! It was YOU and your genius! and I have the bill to prove it!
: )

156 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:27:47am

re: #147 Alouette

You can take the scumbags out of their Ivory Towers but you can't take the Ivory Tower out of the scumbags.

157 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:27:47am

They're still foaming at the mouth over Cheney in the wheelchair. The moonbats can't decide if it's Dr. Strangelove or The Big Lebowski.

158 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:27:54am

re: #143 lifeofthemind

Countess Alexandrovna: You are the greatest lover I've ever had.
Boris: Well, I practice a lot when I'm alone.

"Love and Death"? That's a hilarious movie.

159 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:28:00am

Israel changes the facts on the ground, militarily and diplomatically by David Bercuson

Some analysts may claim that the core of Hamas's military capability has survived in the bunkers and tunnels of Gaza City. Possibly. But the military initiative is now Israel's. The Israel Defence Forces set the agenda, drove the fight, kept the enemy on its heels, destroyed significant enemy capability (including many of the smuggling tunnels) and showed Hamas that IDF soldiers are now highly skilled in urban insurgent war. Israel now has the military initiative in the south and will set the terms. It is no longer merely Hamas's antagonist; it is its unquestioned military superior. The lesson will not be lost on Iran or Hezbollah.

Israel taught Hamas that no one but the Arab street really cares about the plight of Gaza under Hamas rule and, though noisy, the Arab street doesn't matter. No other country attacked Israel. Jordan maintained diplomatic relations. Iran fulminated but did nothing. Egypt, which once openly tolerated the tunnels, will no doubt clamp down hard on Hamas's smuggling. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan was especially shrill in condemning Israel, but the $141-million Christmas deal between Israeli firms and the Turkish air force to upgrade Turkey's F-4 Phantoms remains intact.

Israel changed the facts on the ground diplomatically as it did militarily. It imposed its will on Hamas. And it has gained greater diplomatic leverage. Hamas has been humbled and with it, Hezbollah and Iran.


Amen.

160 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:28:19am

re: #151 MarineGrunt

Over my dead body.

And mine.

161 gmsc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:28:24am

Barack 0bama: President to the 57 United States!

162 father_of_10  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:28:24am

re: #146 Creeping Eruption

Exit stage left?

Seriously, what will these morons have to live by now that The One is elected, the oceans are receding, the earth is cooling, the Muslims love us and even Hugo and Fidel are sending us love notes?

163 avanti  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:28:37am

re: #124 faraway

After the replay, the ruling on the field is changed. There are offsetting penalties.

I saw that, Robert said "to" and Obama did not correct him, just repeated it.

164 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:28:43am

re: #59 lawhawk

Bad News Alert: Afghan Khyber Pass closed indefinitely after latest Taliban attack.

Mr. President. Tear down that Taliban.

Parties over. Reality intrudes. Expect massive testing of limits during the next 72 hours.

165 bulwrk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:28:57am

re: #113 vxbush

Late to the game, but did anyone explain why Cheney was in a wheelchair? I never heard an explanation for why.

It was a sinister plot hatched by Cheney himself to sue Obama under the ADA for not having the stage wheel chair accessible thus hamstringing the new administration with its first scandal.

166 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:29:05am

re: #142 father_of_10

So will Move On now be able to move on?

I think they have plans to Move-in ...to the White House.
My Hope is Obama quickly locks the doors.

167 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:29:06am
168 kcladderman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:29:10am

re: #160 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And mine.

and millions of the rest of us.

169 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:29:28am

re: #149 seekeroftruth
"I'd prefer it if the MSM would follow Charles's example."
ROFL! You expect the MSM - winner of LGF's Fiskie award, to be honest and fair? Ha ha ha! Thanks, I needed a chuckle today!

170 johnny_t  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:29:34am

Who really cares? Are we going to bash BHO just like the leftists bashed Bush? Come on people, let's be better than the lefties....I don't want to follow in their pathetic footsteps.

171 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:29:57am

Obama Enters the Great Game

The major challenge he faces is not Gaza; the Israeli-Palestinian dispute is not one any U.S. president intervenes in unless he wants to experience pain. As we have explained, that is an intractable conflict to which there is no real solution. Certainly, Obama will fight being drawn into mediating the Israeli-Palestinian conflict during his first hundred days in office. He undoubtedly will send the obligatory Middle East envoy, who will spend time with all the parties, make suitable speeches and extract meaningless concessions from all sides. This envoy will establish some sort of process to which everyone will cynically commit, knowing it will go nowhere. Such a mission is not involvement — it is the alternative to involvement, and the reason presidents appoint Middle East envoys. Obama can avoid the Gaza crisis, and he will do so.
172 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:29:57am

re: #167 buzzsawmonkey

What happens to a misplaced adverb?
Does it dry up like a raisin in the sun?

Damn, boy. What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

173 Notutopia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:30:13am

re: #167 buzzsawmonkey

What happens to a misplaced adverb?
Does it dry up like a raisin in the sun?

You chose to either eat the raisin or spit it out.

174 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:30:22am

re: #162 father_of_10

Seriously, what will these morons have to live by now that The One is elected, the oceans are receding, the earth is cooling, the Muslims love us and even Hugo and Fidel are sending us love notes?

Plenty I am guessing. I have heard the spin doctors saying that President Obama will have to govern from the middle if he wants to pass a thing, and that his picks for positions have been in that direction (Clinton White House). That alone will turn them against him.

175 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:30:34am

re: #155 Notutopia
Hey, whaddya mean you still have the bill? You mean you didn't pay it yet?!?!
:)

176 seekeroftruth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:30:50am

re: #169 realwest

Glad to make you laugh today Realwest! LOL

177 Dainn  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:30:56am

If I were going to be reciting those lines, I would have studied them a little to know what I was going to say. Both Obama and the Chief Justice had too many wine spritzers at Oprah's ball last night, I think.

178 kcladderman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:31:06am

re: #162 father_of_10

Seriously, what will these morons have to live by now that The One is elected, the oceans are receding, the earth is cooling, the Muslims love us and even Hugo and Fidel are sending us love notes?

Well maybe not Hugo

179 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:31:08am

I just got this great big empty feeling in my body.

180 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:31:15am

re: #97 Charles

Actually, no ... Roberts flubbed it again the second time. He still put the word "faithfully" in the wrong place.


But obama still flubbed it by putting faithfully at the end after the United States.. And he stepped all over the first line interrupted Roberts.

181 right mind left  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:31:20am

re: #173 Notutopia

You chose to either eat the raisin or spit it out.

But you have to quick-ly or quiet-ly or some other modified way!

182 capitalist piglet  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:31:38am

How about this?

Inaugural benediction: Pray that “white will embrace what is right”

183 bulwrk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:31:56am

re: #170 johnny_t

Do you think the left is going to stop bashing Republicans now?That we're better than this attitude will insure defeat in 2010 and 2012.

184 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:31:58am

re: #148 gmsc

So, back when the Great Depression was just starting, tent cities were derisively referred to as "Hoovervilles" and "Hoover Homes".

When 0bama drives us into the next Great Depression, what do we call them? "Barack's Barracks"?

Hussein's Hovels?

185 Globular Cluster  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:32:18am

re: #15 realwest

Indeed - it is insignificant.

Really, really insignificant. A person must really be bitter to make a huge deal out of this.

I hope the man does well, despite our differences. I will absolutely give him a chance. I hated the way the Left treated Bush for eight years and I won't do the same to Obama.

186 Notutopia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:32:26am

re: #175 realwest

I'm waiting to make payment until I can see the outcomes of the contract agreement...

187 father_of_10  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:32:37am

Khyber Pass closed? Might be my fault. In 1965 my family was visiting the Khyber Pass and my brothers and I were having great fun hopping back and forth across the border chanting: Now I'm in Pakistan, now I'm in Afghanistan . . . the guards became angry and threatened o lock us all up. Our dad made us sit int he car fro there4st of the visit. We thought that was overkill . . . just because the guards had real bullets in their guns and all didn't mean that they would really lock us up . . . right?

188 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:32:51am

re: #178 kcladderman

Well maybe not Hugo

True. Hugo said Obama smells like bush.

189 theblakester  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:32:59am

Can we do anything from giving him a mulligan in four years?

190 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:33:01am

Who's spending tonight in the Lincoln Bedroom? Is there any way to find out?

191 Logic  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:33:06am

IMHO, Roberts was the one who messed up. His timing was off right from the start and then he totally screwed up the "faithfully" line. It looked to me like a bit of nervousness.

As a matter of historical record, it's certainly inartful, but does it matter beyond that? No.

192 realwest  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:33:12am

Well y'all it's been - well actually kinda depressing - but I'm outta here for lunch. I hope I get the chance to see you all down the road!

193 VetteMan  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:33:17am

Good point, johnny_t!

This is so insignificant. This is the sort of thing liberals would cry and poke fun about, of a republican. I'd like to think "us" conservatives are above that sort thing. "We" are the higher standard. Let's lead by example.

194 sngnsgt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:33:26am

re: #170 johnny_t

Leave him alone, when he mis-steps the marching orders of groups like Move-On.org and Code Pink, they will give him what for.

195 avanti  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:33:30am

re: #149 seekeroftruth

I'd prefer it if the MSM would follow Charles's example.

That will never happen, the media will spin stories like this.
Matthews will say Roberts screwed up on purpose, Rush will blame it on Obama.

196 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:34:20am
197 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:34:21am

re: #142 father_of_10

So will Move On now be able to move on?

They are a money pump, like the March of Dimes they will live forever, even if their original purpose no longer exists.

198 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:34:45am

re: #182 capitalist piglet

How about this?

Inaugural benediction: Pray that “white will embrace what is right”

Say what?!

199 seekeroftruth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:34:52am

re: #195 avanti

That will never happen, the media will spin stories like this.
Matthews will say Roberts screwed up on purpose, Rush will blame it on Obama.

I agree - forgot my sarc tag : - ) And the MSM did win the Fiskie award for a reason.

200 Dainn  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:35:34am

re: #159 Kenneth

This has always been true when Israel picks their fights carefully. I laugh at Hamas claiming victory. They lost in a big way, they know it, the world knows it, and even Hasud the bunny knows it.

Will that stop them from flinging more rockets into Israel? Nope.

201 capitalist piglet  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:35:34am

re: #198 twincitiesgirl

Indeed.

202 Notutopia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:35:49am

BBL Time to go brush off the snow from the hay feeders and bring in more firewood for the evening...
Life goes on...

203 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:35:53am

Jeff Toobin on CNN said there were no memorable moments in the speech.

Wow. Blue on blue.

204 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:35:53am

Report from Gen. Barry McCaffrey on Mexico

The incoming Obama Administration must immediately focus on the dangerous and worsening problems in Mexico, which fundamentally threaten US national security. Before the next eight years are past – the violent, warring collection of criminal drug cartels could overwhelm the institutions of the state and establish de facto control over broad regions of northern Mexico.

US intelligence is deeply worried about the possible collapse of two countries deemed to be of vital importance to US interests. One is Pakistan. The other is Mexico. Yes, Mexico.

205 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:35:55am

Those who voted for him and believe his empty promises are the ones who fugged up.

206 theblakester  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:36:02am

re: #182 capitalist piglet

I saw that and wondered myself. How demeaning to those that fought for the abolishment of slavery.

207 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:36:27am

re: #191 Logic

IMHO, Roberts was the one who messed up. His timing was off right from the start and then he totally screwed up the "faithfully" line. It looked to me like a bit of nervousness.

As a matter of historical record, it's certainly inartful, but does it matter beyond that? No.


Roberts flubbed the second line, but obama stepped on the first line by repeating the line before Roberts had finished the line. Obama then flubbed the line by saying 'faithfully' after the United States.

208 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:36:43am

re: #144 samhein

The Dow was down over 180 points just a few minutes ago to just above 8000.
Yep, this is all looking sooooo good. (gag!)
This is going to be a very LONG 4 years, I'm afraid.

Wall Street and inaugurations aren't harbingers of things to come.

Those who were expecting a rally today haven't been paying attention.

Oh, and the myth is already growing... AP reported crowds over 1 million; now we're getting crowds unlike any ever seen - 1.5 to 4 million. Really?

209 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:37:00am

re: #154 David IV of Georgia

If the correct meaning was said, regardless of the words, regardless of what was written, then the oath is valid.

If words conveying some meaning other than that of the written oath, then the oath would be questionable and wrong.

What was said, stumbles and all, conveyed the same meaning as the written traditional oath, so it is valid.


This is my opinion, by the way and has no bearing on the legality of what was done,

210 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:37:18am

re: #204 Kenneth

Report from Gen. Barry McCaffrey on Mexico

US intelligence is deeply worried about the possible collapse of two countries deemed to be of vital importance to US interests. One is Pakistan. The other is Mexico. Yes, Mexico.

If you live in a border state this is old news. Things are very scary and getting worse.

211 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:37:41am
212 robdouth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:37:53am

Maybe in 2012, he'll just get Ryan Seacrest to administer the oath?

213 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:37:57am

re: #158 doppelganglander

"Love and Death"? That's a hilarious movie.

Wheat.
Wheat.

214 opnion  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:38:11am

There is not one newsie with the inclination or the guts to ask Michelle in an interview, "So are you proud of your country now?"

215 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:38:12am

The only regret of career choices I have is now that Obama is in office, with Biden as VP backup, is not having chosen the path of professional comedian...

216 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:38:24am

I was parking at the grocery store during the speech. Did he say something about not believing in empty promises or some such? It was a howler whatever the quote was.

217 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:38:29am

re: #166 unrealizedviewpoint

Move On, Move in, Moving on up...

218 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:38:38am

re: #200 Dainn

Will that stop them from flinging more rockets into Israel? Nope.

I'm guessing they will need a couple more smacks before they finally comprehend the fact Israel really means it.

219 AuntAcid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:39:26am

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

220 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:39:44am

re: #211 ploome hineni

the comments are a hoot

Did he the 'Yellow/mellow" line from the greenies idea of when to flush and when not to flush?
If it's yellow, let it mellow
If it's brown, flush it down

221 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:39:44am

Could somebody near the coast please run & check if the oceans are starting to recede now? Pretty please...

222 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:39:48am

The fact that there were some verbal gymnastics during the "oaf" (as Senator Feinstein said it) of office is inconsequential and a side story. I am more concerned with the massive amount of government spending that is about to ensue and the eventual inflation that will bite us in the a--.

Rush gave the "flubbing" about 5 minutes and then moved on.

223 avanti  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:39:48am

re: #198 twincitiesgirl

Say what?!

I laughed at those lines. mellow yellow, brown, hang around ? Try to find words that rhyme without offending someone.

224 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:39:56am

re: #207 newsjunkie_ky

That's how I saw it, too.
Still, isn't it nice to be able to discuss a possible Presidential screw-up without the Code Pink/NYT-types declaring it a nefarious plot to install a Dictatorship?

225 mattm  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:40:01am

re: #203 faraway

No more interviews with Obama for him.

226 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:40:04am
227 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:40:21am

Well, there we are. The Dow is at 8000 right now:


Dow

228 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:40:43am

re: #187 father_of_10

Khyber Pass closed? Might be my fault. In 1965 my family was visiting the Khyber Pass and my brothers and I were having great fun hopping back and forth across the border chanting: Now I'm in Pakistan, now I'm in Afghanistan . . . the guards became angry and threatened o lock us all up. Our dad made us sit int he car fro there4st of the visit. We thought that was overkill . . . just because the guards had real bullets in their guns and all didn't mean that they would really lock us up . . . right?

I've noticed that a sense of humor is a quality few border guards in any country have.

229 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:40:50am

Robert Byrd suffers seizure at inaugural lunch.

/carted away

230 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:40:57am

re: #159 Kenneth
The problem is, as with the Hizbullah war, Israel stopped short of its necessary military objectives. That's a fundamental flaw.

231 capitalist piglet  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:41:04am

re: #226 ploome hineni

Just now?

232 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:41:13am

re: #227 subsailor68

Well, there we are. The Dow is at 8000 right now:


Dow

I've got live streaming and as of this very moment, it's at 8062.35

233 MJBrutus  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:41:15am

re: #22 gmsc

Question: What happens when the oath is flubbed?

It the oath more symbolic? Or does flubbing it mean you don't qualify as president?

As Meghan Kelly on FSN pointed out, if it goes to the SCOTUS the new Prez can at least count on Robeert's vote :-)

234 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:41:16am

re: #184 MandyManners

Hussein's Hovels?

Barry's Bivouacs.

235 mattm  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:41:33am

re: #227 subsailor68

Well, there we are. The Dow is at 8000 right now:

Dow

Change! It's all you have left.

236 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:41:36am

re: #208 lawhawk

Wall Street and inaugurations aren't harbingers of things to come.

Those who were expecting a rally today haven't been paying attention.

Oh, and the myth is already growing... AP reported crowds over 1 million; now we're getting crowds unlike any ever seen - 1.5 to 4 million. Really?

Heh.

They multiplied by binary fission!
Gotta have the biggest crowd evah, in the MFM.
I bet there will be more corrections, upwards - B0 crowds simply must beat any Republican Inauguration crowds!

237 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:41:36am

re: #211 ploome hineni

the comments are a hoot

The comments are inappropriate.

238 RoughRider  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:41:48am

re: #142 father_of_10

So will Move On now be able to move on?

Well there is still this whole messy "sovereign capitalist America" nonsense that George $oro$ is still dedicated to underwriting the downfall of, so I guess not.

239 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:42:01am

re: #160 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And mine.

Mine too. They'll have to walk through a lot of us.

240 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:42:05am
241 kcladderman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:42:09am

re: #223 avanti

I laughed at those lines. mellow yellow, brown, hang around ? Try to find words that rhyme without offending someone.

Why was there any talk of color

242 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:42:10am

re: #217 lifeofthemind

Move On, Move in, Moving on up...

To the East Side!

243 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:42:14am

re: #232 Jetpilot1101

I've got live streaming and as of this very moment, it's at 8062.35

Yeah, my link isn't real-time. Just happened to click when it hit. Thanks!

244 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:42:31am

Might be Ted Kennedy not Byrd

245 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:42:36am

re: #221 Kenneth

No, but I can safely report that the snow here is piled about as high as the manure coming out of DC.

246 outsidephilly  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:42:43am

re: #182 capitalist piglet

How about this?

Inaugural benediction: Pray that “white will embrace what is right”

. . . . , does this mean whites never embraced what is right?

247 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:42:48am
248 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:42:53am

Byrd's seizing?

249 RoughRider  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:42:57am

re: #148 gmsc

So, back when the Great Depression was just starting, tent cities were derisively referred to as "Hoovervilles" and "Hoover Homes".

When 0bama drives us into the next Great Depression, what do we call them? "Barack's Barracks"?

"Bushvilles" will be the operative word.

250 capitalist piglet  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:43:03am

re: #237 Nevergiveup

I didn't watch the clip, but if AP is being accurate (and I have no reason to believe he wouldn't be), the benediction itself was inappropriate.

251 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:43:04am

re: #243 subsailor68

Yeah, my link isn't real-time. Just happened to click when it hit. Thanks!

Either way, it's hovering close to 8000 and down 200+ points.

252 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:43:07am

600 private planes came to the democrats big day. 170 million dollars spent.
Those liberals are so in to conservation.

253 seekeroftruth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:43:12am

re: #223 avanti

I think he should have left that part out. It didn't add to what he was saying.

254 vxbush  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:43:23am

Did anyone notice that Roberts called Obama Senator, even though Obama had turned in his resignation a month ago? I realize he was trying to talk to him and honor where he's been, but it was a poor step for Roberts.

255 mattm  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:43:26am

re: #245 vagabond trader

No, but I can safely report that the snow here is piled about as high as the manure coming out of DC.

That's a lot of snow.

256 capitalist piglet  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:43:32am

re: #246 outsidephilly

. . . . , does this mean whites never embraced what is right?

Apparently.

257 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:43:34am

re: #250 capitalist piglet

I didn't watch the clip, but if AP is being accurate (and I have no reason to believe he wouldn't be), the benediction itself was inappropriate.

That is what I meant

258 Dainn  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:43:44am

re: #218 Kenneth

I'm guessing they will need a couple more smacks before they finally comprehend the fact Israel really means it.

They won't stop terror because of Israeli military action. Terror is too easy and too cheap a tool to use, and until they (Hamas/extremists) are all dead or Israel is gone, they won't stop the attacks.

Sad but true. Israel will be dealing with people like that forever. The goal is to crush them to a level that is tolerable and get other nations (Syria, Iran, the rest of the Middle East) to stop supporting them.

259 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:43:44am

No they're saying it was Kennedy that had a seizure.

/some old Bonkey got carted away

260 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:43:50am

So BHO really isn't president? Anarchy!

/troofing

261 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:44:10am

re: #251 Jetpilot1101

Either way, it's hovering close to 8000 and down 200+ points.

Yeah, every time I click it's somewhere around there. Any guess on the close today?

262 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:44:24am
263 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:44:39am

re: #261 subsailor68

Yeah, every time I click it's somewhere around there. Any guess on the close today?

7900?

264 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:44:53am

re: #224 Lincolntf

That's how I saw it, too.
Still, isn't it nice to be able to discuss a possible Presidential screw-up without the Code Pink/NYT-types declaring it a nefarious plot to install a Dictatorship?


Yep, Bush didn't step in and take the podium and declare himself dictator for life.

265 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:45:03am

re: #255 mattm

and it's all courtesy of global climate change warming.

266 brookly red  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:45:13am

re: #170 johnny_t

Who really cares? Are we going to bash BHO just like the leftists bashed Bush? Come on people, let's be better than the lefties....I don't want to follow in their pathetic footsteps.

no, we are going to tell the truth :)

267 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:45:16am

Hamas VIctory Parade & Rally

Youtube Video
268 capitalist piglet  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:45:17am

re: #257 Nevergiveup

That is what I meant

Oh - sorry. I'm having a hard time keeping up today, for some reason.

269 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:45:33am

re: #229 Killian Bundy

Robert Byrd suffers seizure at inaugural lunch.

/carted away

Congressional Klan Coot Crippled by Cognitive Conflict

270 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:45:37am

re: #207 newsjunkie_ky

Roberts flubbed the second line, but obama stepped on the first line by repeating the line before Roberts had finished the line. Obama then flubbed the line by saying 'faithfully' after the United States.

I didn't watch it. Did they call each other knuckleheads and do fist bumps?

271 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:45:38am

re: #263 Ward Cleaver

7900?

You may be close. I keep wondering if we'll see the Dow as low as 7000 before this is over. (Full disclosure - I'm no financial expert.)

272 LSD  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:45:38am

It my neighborhood, America is suddenly "Cool" again...

273 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:45:40am
274 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:45:41am

re: #229 Killian Bundy

Robert Byrd suffers seizure at inaugural lunch.

/carted away

I'm not touching that one.

275 outsidephilly  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:45:53am

re: #256 capitalist piglet

Apparently.

who will speak up for the white man that is being told the white never got it right?

276 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:45:59am

re: #261 subsailor68

Yeah, every time I click it's somewhere around there. Any guess on the close today?

I'm no market mavin but we could close below 8000 if there is a late day selloff. In my opinion, we close around -150 or -200. I've read some great stuff about Obama's "newer deal" and it isn't pretty. We are at the beginning of this crisis and there is a lot of pain to come.

277 gmsc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:46:08am

re: #113 vxbush

Late to the game, but did anyone explain why Cheney was in a wheelchair? I never heard an explanation for why.

He wanted to see if he could trick Joe Biden into asking him to stand up.

278 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:46:30am

re: #268 capitalist piglet

Oh - sorry. I'm having a hard time keeping up today, for some reason.

I know how you feel. I have a 5 more hours to go and I can't imagine how Iam going to make it?

279 MJBrutus  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:46:35am

re: #254 vxbush

Did anyone notice that Roberts called Obama Senator, even though Obama had turned in his resignation a month ago? I realize he was trying to talk to him and honor where he's been, but it was a poor step for Roberts.

I believe the title is there for life. If he no longer served, he would still be Senator Obama. Kind of like the way George Foreman is still called Champ. Another example, is that Bush is still entitled to be called President Bush as well.

280 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:46:55am

re: #277 gmsc

He wanted to see if he could trick Joe Biden into asking him to stand up.

lol

281 Logic  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:46:56am

re: #207 newsjunkie_ky

Roberts flubbed the second line, but obama stepped on the first line by repeating the line before Roberts had finished the line. Obama then flubbed the line by saying 'faithfully' after the United States.

When I saw it live, I was expecting Roberts to pause after saying Obama's name. It seems that is the natural timing that they've been using for the oath for the last several Presidents. I'll have to go back and listen to the oaths from Reagan on and see how they do it. Anyway, I believe he was supposed to pause there but didn't - and that's what messed up Obama jumping in.

282 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:47:05am

re: #241 kcladderman

Without the issue of "color" President Obama would still be a State Senator from the crime-ridden South Side of Chicago. It is the central theme of everything he's ever written/said. It was also the prime mover behind his election to President of the United States.
Pres. Obama without the race-issue is Dennis Kucinich, and nobody would have voted for Kucinich.

283 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:47:12am

re: #230 lawhawk

I'm not sure that is true. Stopped short of whose objectives? Yours or Israel's? Livni said Israel's objective was not to destroy Hamas but to stop the rocket attacks. The IDF demonstrated absolute mastery over Hamas. Recall the Hezbollah war, when several IDF tanks were destroyed or damaged? Not one was seriously hit in Gaza. Iran had boasted to Hamas they could help them do this. They failed.

Israel hammered Hamas for 19 days. Nobody came to their rescue. Nobody. Hamas was hammered. Iran was humiliated. And the Arab street knows it.

284 gmsc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:47:23am

All hail the Messiah . . .

Youtube Video
285 Florida Lady  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:47:34am

re: #277 gmsc

He wanted to see if he could trick Joe Biden into asking him to stand up.

I don't care who you are, that's darn funny! Upding!

The funniest part is Slo Joe might've done it too!

286 MJBrutus  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:47:40am

re: #282 Lincolntf

Without the issue of "color" President Obama would still be a State Senator from the crime-ridden South Side of Chicago. It is the central theme of everything he's ever written/said. It was also the prime mover behind his election to President of the United States.
Pres. Obama without the race-issue is Dennis Kucinich, and nobody would have voted for Kucinich.

More like Trafficant.

287 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:47:42am

re: #276 Jetpilot1101

I'm no market mavin but we could close below 8000 if there is a late day selloff. In my opinion, we close around -150 or -200. I've read some great stuff about Obama's "newer deal" and it isn't pretty. We are at the beginning of this crisis and there is a lot of pain to come.

I know I sound like a broken record with my admiration for Amity Schlae's book "The Forgotten Man", but you're observation on the "newer deal" seems right on to me.

288 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:47:48am

re: #254 vxbush

Did anyone notice that Roberts called Obama Senator, even though Obama had turned in his resignation a month ago? I realize he was trying to talk to him and honor where he's been, but it was a poor step for Roberts.

That is how all 'former' senators are addressed.

289 capitalist piglet  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:47:48am

re: #275 outsidephilly

Don't elect the guy, be insulted. Elect the guy, be insulted. No one in power will say a word.

290 JacksonTn  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:48:06am

Hey Lizards ...

Good Luck to the New President ...

Just relaxing with music today ...here's to you Commander in Chief ...

Youtube Video
291 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:48:09am

re: #182 capitalist piglet

How about this?

Inaugural benediction: Pray that “white will embrace what is right”

When I was a child in the '60s, the saying was, "White makes right." or "White is right." or "That's mighty white of you." The statement in the benediction probably is a reference to these statements that haven't been used for 40 years.

292 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:48:09am

re: #284 gmsc

It is done.

293 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:48:16am

re: #254 vxbush

I believe Senators (like Judges) are properly referred to by their former title for the rest of their lives.

294 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:48:45am

re: #287 subsailor68

Oops. "your", not "you're".

Sorry.

295 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:48:46am

re: #279 MJBrutus

I believe the title is there for life. If he no longer served, he would still be Senator Obama. Kind of like the way George Foreman is still called Champ. Another example, is that Bush is still entitled to be called President Bush as well.

Ali is the CHAMP. In my humble opinion.

296 A.W.  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:48:51am

You know what, and this is me changing my mind...

THEY BOTH SCREWED IT UP.

They should have practiced together until they got it right.

Then again, but for the Grace of God go i, so I ain't mad at any of them. bashing over this is silly. but they both screwed it up.

vxbush,

Obama still is called Senator, even if he isn't anymore, just as Bill Clinton is still called President. it seems weird, but it is normal speech. Of course after the oath was administered the right term is President Obama and so he will be for the rest of his life.

297 MJBrutus  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:49:26am

re: #295 Nevergiveup

Ali is the CHAMP. In my humble opinion.

Gotta agree. He truly was the greatest!

298 outsidephilly  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:49:34am

re: #289 capitalist piglet

Don't elect the guy, be insulted. Elect the guy, be insulted. No one in power will say a word.

either way the white won't get it right, right?

299 chicagodudewhotrades  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:49:42am

re: #271 subsailor68

if Dow falls to around 7500/7400 that will be 50% decline from all time high. (sorry I don't know exact all time high of Dow)

300 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:49:45am

Michelle's dress cost $1,500.

301 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:49:53am

Wait til you see The Obama's first clumsy military salute.

302 FrogMarch  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:50:08am

So - is the world ok now? Good thing Bushitler and his theocracy didn't take over the world as expected by the /genius left.

303 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:50:09am
304 JHW  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:50:22am

Kate at small dead animals extends her congratulations, I like , thanks Canada;

best wishes to the new US President for a safe and successful four years, followed by the longest string of paid speaking engagements in American political history.)


SDA

305 MJBrutus  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:50:41am

re: #301 vagabond trader

Wait til you see The Obama's first clumsy military salute.

I do hope that he gets some tutoring in military courtesy.

306 robdouth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:50:49am

re: #284 gmsc

All hail the Messiah . . .

That's scary because it reminds me of Rosemary's Baby which I recently reviewed.

Youtube Video
307 gmsc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:51:04am

re: #294 subsailor68

Oops. "your", not "you're".

Sorry.

Sorry. You flubbed it when it was important. You are now not legally considered to be the US President.
;)

308 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:51:08am

So wait, I'm in class. People are upset because he was called "Senator"?

Seriously?

309 vxbush  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:51:14am

re: #279 MJBrutus

I believe the title is there for life. If he no longer served, he would still be Senator Obama. Kind of like the way George Foreman is still called Champ. Another example, is that Bush is still entitled to be called President Bush as well.

I guess that's true. But to get a lifetime honor after only serving sitting in a chair for running for President for two years....ouch.

310 robdouth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:51:28am

re: #306 robdouth

my bad messed the quote all up.

311 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:51:29am

re: #281 Logic

When I saw it live, I was expecting Roberts to pause after saying Obama's name. It seems that is the natural timing that they've been using for the oath for the last several Presidents. I'll have to go back and listen to the oaths from Reagan on and see how they do it. Anyway, I believe he was supposed to pause there but didn't - and that's what messed up Obama jumping in.


Nope.

312 kcladderman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:51:32am

re: #304 JHW

Kate at small dead animals extends her congratulations, I like , thanks Canada;


SDA

Thats the best blessing I have heard yet.

313 outsidephilly  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:51:49am

re: #303 Iron Fist

Was that before or after he quit burning crosses on people's lawns?

oh yeah, he was involved with the KKK years ago . . . .

314 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:51:50am

re: #287 subsailor68

I know I sound like a broken record with my admiration for Amity Schlae's book "The Forgotten Man", but you're observation on the "newer deal" seems right on to me.

I will echo your broken record. With every page, I kept wanting to shout, "No, no, can't you see that will have the exact opposite effect of what you intend?" I'm pretty sure neither Obama nor any of his transition team has read it.

315 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:51:53am

re: #305 MJBrutus

Yes, because he sooo respects the troops.

316 mattm  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:52:01am

re: #279 MJBrutus

I believe the title is there for life. If he no longer served, he would still be Senator Obama. Kind of like the way George Foreman is still called Champ. Another example, is that Bush is still entitled to be called President Bush as well.

Well we still call former living POTUS "President Carter/Bush/Clinton/Bush" so I see no huge deal.

317 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:52:12am

re: #299 chicagodudewhotrades

if Dow falls to around 7500/7400 that will be 50% decline from all time high. (sorry I don't know exact all time high of Dow)

I don't either, but I think you're right - wasn't the DOW over 14,000 early in the year (or late last year)?

318 rain of lead  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:52:45am

"it's here,it's here...my unicorn is here (does happy dance)
"hey,wait a minute....the f*%^ing horn was just glued on"
"what the hell else was I lied to about?"

319 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:52:50am

re: #226 ploome hineni

Pres pro tem of Senate, 3rd in line to POTUS

320 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:52:59am

re: #307 gmsc

Sorry. You flubbed it when it was important. You are now not legally considered to be the US President.
;)

Hey, at least I "faithfully" corrected my error. Doesn't that count for something?

:-)

321 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:52:59am

re: #300 lawhawk

Michelle's dress cost $1,500.

Cmon, 64% of poll voters LOVED it!

322 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:53:04am
323 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:53:10am
324 Hobbes  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:53:29am

re: #147 Alouette

BDS going strong as Bush appears on Inaugural stage

Stay classy, dems.

That's the thing about Liberals, they don't know how to win with grace.

325 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:53:43am

re: #283 Kenneth

If the goal was to stop the attacks, that failed; Hamas is still firing mortars at Israel. In any other situation, that would be the end of the ceasefire, but not when Israel's involved. It will simply be ignored.

Israel's failures in the Hizbullah war were the result of political failures first and foremost. They were also dealing with a terror regime that had been preparing years for that moment. Hamas had far less time and capabilities at their disposal.

326 Picayune  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:53:48am

President Obama offers prayer to Sen. Ted Kennedy, who was taken from the Capitol luncheon, apparently ill. Best of luck to the Lion of the Senate.

327 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:53:52am

Obama vows new start with Muslims
New president sworn in: Barack Obama says he will seek 'new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect' vis-à-vis Muslim world, warns terrorists that America will outlast, defeat them

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

I'd remind people that President Bush's first public stop after 9/11 was to a Washington DC Mosque. Gee, that worked out well?

328 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:53:59am

Just heard on the radio that Ted Kennedy was taken away due to some sort of convulsions. Anyone hear anymore about that?

329 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:54:01am

re: #301 vagabond trader

Watching civilians salute is alternately hilarious and horrific. I hope he has an etiquette coach to help him get it right.

330 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:54:14am

re: #246 outsidephilly

. . . . , does this mean whites never embraced what is right?

It's an old saying:
"If you're white, you're right. If you're brown, stick around. If you're black, get back."

331 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:54:16am

re: #319 lifeofthemind

Pres pro tem of Senate, 3rd in line to POTUS

No, that's the Speaker of the House.

332 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:54:28am

re: #314 doppelganglander

I will echo your broken record. With every page, I kept wanting to shout, "No, no, can't you see that will have the exact opposite effect of what you intend?" I'm pretty sure neither Obama nor any of his transition team has read it.

Now that's funny, because I found myself doing the same thing! And I do it again every time I see Obama admin folks talking about their plans for the economy.

333 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:54:29am

re: #317 subsailor68

I don't either, but I think you're right - wasn't the DOW over 14,000 early in the year (or late last year)?

14,078.69 on 10 October 2007. After that, it fell off a cliff

334 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:54:52am
335 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:54:57am

re: #226 ploome hineni

Sen Byrd had a siezure

Make him comfortable. Cover him with a white sheet.

336 vxbush  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:55:01am

re: #328 Honorary Yooper

Just heard on the radio that Ted Kennedy was taken away due to some sort of convulsions. Anyone hear anymore about that?

That is, unfortunately, rather common with brain surgery.

337 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:55:17am

President Obama: "Today is not about me, it's about the American people..."

338 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:55:28am

re: #300 lawhawk

Michelle's dress cost $1,500.

It was pretty but, it was inappropriate for the day.

339 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:55:35am

re: #334 unrealizedviewpoint

Seriously? Please block.

Why am I quoting?

340 father_of_10  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:55:40am

re: #300 lawhawk

Michelle's dress cost $1,500.

What a cheapskate. I have suits that cost that much and I'm a nobody. Is she going to embarrass us like Jimmuh did?


... wait, she already has.

341 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:55:51am

re: #337 tfc3rid

President Obama: "Today is not about me, it's about the American people..."

I'm an American people......hum, I guess he don't mean me?

342 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:56:04am

re: #300 lawhawk

Michelle's dress cost $1,500.

Omigawd - she's wearing a cardi under that coat, and a woolly scarf!
Blydi 'eck, doesn't she know about thermal underwear?
As for those shoes ...

Oh, I do love dissing those women who are supposed to be our fashion examples!

Here's one who knows how to dress properly: Carla Bruni!

343 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:56:05am

re: #333 Jetpilot1101

14,078.69 on 10 October 2007. After that, it fell off a cliff

Phew, at least I was close. And it sure did fall off the cliff, didn't it? Probably still in mid-air. Sigh.

344 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:56:15am
345 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:56:19am

re: #293 Lincolntf

I believe Senators (like Judges) are properly referred to by their former title for the rest of their lives.

I believe they are entitled to this honor unless by lawful means they are deprived of the dignity of their office. If a person holds more than one title, they are normally referred to by their highest title unless their is some good reason to refer to them by a lesser title,

346 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:56:41am

OT:
Firebombs thrown at Egyptian embassy in Jakarta. I guess someone doesn't like the Egyptians today because Egypt continues their blockade of Gaza.

347 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:56:43am

re: #342 yma o hyd

Omigawd - she's wearing a cardi under that coat, and a woolly scarf!
Blydi 'eck, doesn't she know about thermal underwear?
As for those shoes ...

Oh, I do love dissing those women who are supposed to be our fashion examples!

Here's one who knows how to dress properly: Carla Bruni!

Well nothing for nothing...Look what she has to work with!

348 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:56:46am

re: #328 Honorary Yooper

Just heard on the radio that Ted Kennedy was taken away due to some sort of convulsions. Anyone hear anymore about that?

Prayers.

349 jpkoch  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:56:56am

Great speech. All that was missing was the Victory Column, marching Prussian Grenadiers, Field Marshall von Moltke, and Bismarck.

350 father_of_10  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:56:58am

re: #339 unrealizedviewpoint

Why am I quoting?

quote? You?

351 jamie  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:56:59am

Apparently it was Kennedy who had a seizure, not Byrd.

352 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:57:03am
353 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:57:04am

re: #342 yma o hyd

Omigawd - she's wearing a cardi under that coat, and a woolly scarf!
Blydi 'eck, doesn't she know about thermal underwear?
As for those shoes ...

Oh, I do love dissing those women who are supposed to be our fashion examples!

Here's one who knows how to dress properly: Carla Bruni!

Tsk, those are whitey gal clothes.

354 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:57:08am

re: #273 AuntAcid

That's just ugly, and inacurate. The Jeffersons did not live in government housing.

355 capitalist piglet  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:57:12am

re: #298 outsidephilly

I find this whole thing fascinating. A little OT, but a related point:

I recently watched two documentaries on The History Channel, one about Siberia, and one about the construction of the railroad that crosses Canada. The experience of native people in the Canadian documentary just about completely mirrored the experience of them here (the herds they hunted were driven off, the were sent to the Canadian version of reservation land), and of course, the Siberian experience was far worse (tribal leaders who tried to negotiate with Stalin were imprisoned, some just plainly executed) - and yet, you'd think the only people in the world who were ever in conflict with Indian tribes were in the United States.

With the left, no matter what happens, there will always be a problem, and white Americans will always be at fault. And regardless of the circumstances, white Americans will always be the most evil bastards to ever occupy a portion of the planet.

I can't believe Obama allowed a slap at white people in the benediction of his own inaugural ceremony. Talk about irony.

356 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:57:14am

Apparently Teddy Kennedy was taken away. The President mentioned his thoughts are with the Kennedy's.

Biden is now getting up to speak.

357 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:57:31am

re: #262 Iron Fist

So what if Hamas thugs say they won. They lost and the whole world saw them loose. What's more, they whole world saw that nobody came to help Hamas. Even Hamas does not believe they won. I see no reason why you should believe their bullshit.

Many years ago, in college, I witnessed a fight between an Iranian student and a good ol' Canuck from a mining town up north. The Iranian provoked the Canuck repeatedly until he couldn't ignore it anymore. The Canuck proceeded to beat the living snot out of the Iranian. It wasn't even close. The Iranian couldn't even contact with a single punch. When the Canuck tired of teaching the punk his lesson and walked away, the Iranian, who couldn't even stand up by this point, started shouting, "See you running away, I f*cking won, I beat you, youf*cking coward! ! F*ck You" and on he went. It didn't matter. He lost and everybody saw he lost.

But of course, this is not the last battle. More will come. This was only shaping the battlefield. The next phase will directly involve Iran.

358 chicagodudewhotrades  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:57:41am

re: #333 Jetpilot1101

okay, so then Dow 7500 would be a 50% drop

359 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:57:54am
360 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:57:55am

re: #340 father_of_10

What a cheapskate. I have suits that cost that much and I'm a nobody. Is she going to embarrass us like Jimmuh did?


... wait, she already has.

That is NOT cheap.

361 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:58:02am

re: #321 Wishing

Cmon, 64% of poll voters LOVED it!

Not loving it is racist!

362 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:58:16am

re: #343 subsailor68

Phew, at least I was close. And it sure did fall off the cliff, didn't it? Probably still in mid-air. Sigh.

In my opinion, we bottom out at 5000. Getting there is going to be enormously painful and will come with a lot of socialism and government intervention.

363 sngnsgt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:58:29am

re: #301 vagabond trader

Wait til you see The Obama's first clumsy military salute.

Code Pink will want it changed to military curtsey.

364 father_of_10  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:58:32am

re: #360 MandyManners

That is NOT cheap.

It is for the First Lady.

365 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:58:37am

re: #342 yma o hyd

Omigawd - she's wearing a cardi under that coat, and a woolly scarf!
Blydi 'eck, doesn't she know about thermal underwear?
As for those shoes ...

Oh, I do love dissing those women who are supposed to be our fashion examples!

Here's one who knows how to dress properly: Carla Bruni!


Bruni's attire reminds me of Sarah Pallin's suits.

366 gymmom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:58:40am

Drudge reports Kennedy having a seizure and Byrd having trouble swallowing.
I bet this is hard for him to swallow.

367 KenJen  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:58:52am

re: #300 lawhawk

Michelle's dress cost $1,500.

I didn't like it. She looked like a giant lima bean.

368 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:59:28am
369 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:59:30am

re: #354 MandyManners

re: #273 AuntAcid

That's just ugly, and inacurate. The Jeffersons did not live in government housing.

Yep, the wife always says that mean and stupid is an unforgivable combo.

370 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:59:34am

re: #287 subsailor68

I know I sound like a broken record with my admiration for Amity Schlae's book "The Forgotten Man", but you're observation on the "newer deal" seems right on to me.

The bottom may be 6500 over the next few weeks.

371 father_of_10  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 11:59:36am

re: #367 KenJen

I didn't like it. She looked like a giant lima bean.

Do we get flatulents with that?

372 outsidephilly  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:00:13pm

re: #355 capitalist piglet

I find this whole thing fascinating. A little OT, but a related point:

I recently watched two documentaries on The History Channel, one about Siberia, and one about the construction of the railroad that crosses Canada. The experience of native people in the Canadian documentary just about completely mirrored the experience of them here (the herds they hunted were driven off, the were sent to the Canadian version of reservation land), and of course, the Siberian experience was far worse (tribal leaders who tried to negotiate with Stalin were imprisoned, some just plainly executed) - and yet, you'd think the only people in the world who were ever in conflict with Indian tribes were in the United States.

With the left, no matter what happens, there will always be a problem, and white Americans will always be at fault. And regardless of the circumstances, white Americans will always be the most evil bastards to ever occupy a portion of the planet.

I can't believe Obama allowed a slap at white people in the benediction of his own inaugural ceremony. Talk about irony.

Especially, when the man's main point is hope and change. Where's the hope and change in the 'white needs to get it right' remark?

373 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:00:28pm

re: #290 JacksonTn

Hey Lizards ...

Good Luck to the New President ...

Just relaxing with music today ...here's to you Commander in Chief ...


[Video]

Immigrant Song?

/troofing again

374 father_of_10  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:00:43pm

Off for some openchange

375 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:01:01pm

re: #362 Jetpilot1101

In my opinion, we bottom out at 5000. Getting there is going to be enormously painful and will come with a lot of socialism and government intervention.

I (and I'm sure you as well) hope you're wrong, but I'm guessing you'll be pretty close - and yep, it sure isn't gonna be pretty.

376 Texas Heathen  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:01:05pm

re: #318 rain of lead

"it's here,it's here...my unicorn is here (does happy dance)
"hey,wait a minute....the f*%^ing horn was just glued on"
"what the hell else was I lied to about?"

I hate to tell you this but....your "unicorn" doesn't shit rainbows...sorry...bho

377 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:01:08pm

re: #364 father_of_10

It is for the First Lady.

The cost is irrelevant. The dress itself was inappropriate for the day-time.

Really, cost does not matter.

378 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:01:09pm

re: #347 Nevergiveup

Well nothing for nothing...Look what she has to work with!

Yeah, true, must be hard if one doesn't have exclusive access to clothes made by Christian Dior ...

379 FrogMarch  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:01:27pm

Let the 4-8 year media leg tingle begin. I supose now the left will do everything they can to dstroy Justice Roberts. How dare he! off with his head!

380 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:01:31pm

Two senators have collapsed, one is Ted Kennedy. The other is Sheets Byrd.

381 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:01:31pm

re: #357 Kenneth

Sadly, every time Israel "wins", their enemies gain strength. Hamas did, in fact, win this round. Losing 1000+ individuals while retaining all of their power in Gaza and garnering a doubling of support from the International Community is a full win for them.
They are not like those of us who respect individual lives.

382 Dainn  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:01:43pm

Both Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd had medical problems at the luncheon. Kennedy had a long seizure (was still seizing as he was taken out of the room in a wheelchair). Byrd had another medical problem just before Kennedy's seizure.

383 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:02:11pm

re: #325 lawhawk

Give it a couple of days. In the meantime, Israel is retaliating by hitting those launch sites. Hamas may need a few more remedial lessons. But like Hezbollah, they will be quiet for a while. The big difference is, Hezbollah has Syria supplying them across an open border. Hamas may find Egypt has decided to stop the weapons smuggling.

I see no benefit to joining with Hamas in agreeing they won. Hamas does not believe it & I fail to see why I should.

384 brookly red  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:02:21pm

re: #366 gymmom

the raido man is saying Byrd & Kennedy... no other details

385 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:02:54pm

re: #370 lifeofthemind

The bottom may be 6500 over the next few weeks.

Jetpilot1101 is predicting 5000, you're figuring 6500 - either way it's pretty grim.

386 arizona9  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:03:02pm

'Countess Alexandrovna: You are the greatest lover I've ever had.
Boris: Well, I practice a lot when I'm alone.'

Rofl! My all time favorite film.

'Thank you, your grubbiness'

387 avanti  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:03:45pm

re: #338 MandyManners

It was pretty but, it was inappropriate for the day.

I wonder if she'd have to to change going from lunches to evening balls.

388 JacksonTn  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:03:46pm

re: #373 Ward Cleaver

Immigrant Song?

/troofing again

Hoochie Coochie Man ...

389 kansas  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:04:49pm

re: #85 faraway

It's never too early.

390 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:04:49pm

re: #353 Wishing

Tsk, those are whitey gal clothes.

Heh.
Pure envy, that!
Has she never seen black coutoure models?
And what about all those hot and black Brazilian chicks? They got style, without the help of Christian Dior.

Poor WAB - its hard to suddenly have to find style ...

(Can't wait for Michelle to meet Carla!)

391 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:04:53pm

re: #331 Dianna

No, that's the Speaker of the House.

Speaker should be 2nd
1) Vice President
2) Speaker of the House
3) President pro tem of the Senate
4) Cabinet officers in the order of creation of their departments.

392 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:05:39pm

re: #182 capitalist piglet

How about this?

Inaugural benediction: Pray that “white DEMOCRATS, LIBERALS, AND "0" will embrace what is right”

/who's racist?

393 arizona9  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:07:19pm

Oh man. My mother had brain cancer and when she had a seizure several months after her initial surgery to remove the tumor, it meant the cancer had returned in the form of several new tumors. Let's hope it's just the medication or something.

394 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:07:54pm

re: #381 Lincolntf

Who from the international community supported Hamas? Talk is cheap, and as Hamas learned, empty. Aside from the usual condemnations and hand wringing, nobody came to their aid. Nobody. Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan were notably unenthusiastic in their criticism of Israel and repeatedly blamed Hamas for the war. The IDF destroyed 80% of the tunnels,3/4's of their missiles, and killed several senior Hamas thugs. It is counter-factual to say Hamas retained "all of their power in Gaza".

395 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:09:15pm

re: #365 newsjunkie_ky

Bruni's attire reminds me of Sarah Pallin's suits.

Yep - if Sarah P. had access to French Haute Couture, thats what she'd be wearing.
Also, Bruni knew that she'd be very harshly judged because upstaging the Queen simply is not on! So WABFL better learn quick - i think the British fashion press is way more unforgiving that any other ...

396 RedHouseBlueState  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:09:41pm

I listened to it on the Internet (was hoping to find Rush carried by some website, but didn't), and my own, honest opinion, Obama flubbed it, not Roberts. Obama butted in before Roberts finished the first line. Then they were both out of whack from then on.

Interesting, I thought, Obama did not say the traditional last line "So help me God." As I understand it, that last line was added by George Washington during his first inauguration, and has been used by every president since. Obama sounded like he was caught off line by it.

397 HDrepub  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:11:47pm

Michelle and Barack. Quite a couple there. For all their supposed sophistication, they are both urban elites who don't know much past where the sidewalk ends and the neon turns to woods.

398 arizona9  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:11:55pm

Oops, sorry, wrong thread.

399 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:13:12pm
400 jcm  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:14:19pm

Late to the inauguration party.

Missed the oath. Caught the speech.

Speech seemed flat in both delivery, and content.

One line did piss me off big time. IMHO opinion clarifies for me that BHO does not like this country, the things it has accomplished, the things it stands for.

We remain a young nation, but in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things.

Yes, Mr. President we are a young nation in span of history. We however are not young it our government. Since our inception all other nations have changed their form of government, we are the longest standing form of government. Among governments we are the adults. We have set the mark and all other nations have in the last 200 years moved in our direction not the other way. In that time a competing way has arisen, socialism. And socialism has proven to be a bankrupt philosophy. The remainder of the Thugs left, paint their regimes with facade of what we established, holding faux elections.

Among deeds we have been the adults of the planet. Upholding liberty around the world time and again. Spending our blood, our treasure to secure the liberty of others. There is no more mature, adult, selfless deed than that.

What childish things would you have us put aside? Our rights? Life? Liberty? Property? Happiness? Those are far from childish. We should never, by any means put away those things. Those where bought with blood are the most precious things and in no way childish.

Should we put away the free capitalist economy? The very thing that propelled us to our economy place in the world. That individuals are free to presue their talents, dreams and abilities to the maximum extent. That these individuals take full responsibility and credit for there lives, failures, and success, that the product of their labor, toil and sweat is theirs and theirs alone. That is not childish.

Are you speaking of charity? No nation is more charitable than we, from blood spilled on foreign lands, to food and medicine sent to disaster areas no nation is more generous than we.

Calling our past childish is a deep insult to the founders, the generations that have upheld and fought for the ideals. It desecrates the blood of patriots who died to establish and protect his nation.

I find this line most telling on the inner thoughts of our President. I find the line deeply disturbing.

401 ThinkRight  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:14:59pm

re: #384 brookly red

the raido man is saying Byrd & Kennedy... no other details


Too much tingling for the old an infirm huh

402 htom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:17:48pm

Both fluffed it, as I heard it live. The transcript shows it too. Doesn't bother me very much; I've seen other oaths fluffed. What matters is what you do.

Tough. If that's the biggest mistake either of them makes today, they've had a very good day.

Congratulations, President Obama. Thank you, President Bush.

403 Pastorius  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:19:09pm

Where's the line about the Holy Spigot?

404 CommonCents  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:20:56pm

re: #308 TheMatrix31

So wait, I'm in class. People are upset because he was called "Senator"?

Seriously?

I would feel insulted to be lumped in with that group of retards as well. Talk about a collection of do-nothing-good'ers.

405 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:21:15pm

They both flubbed it, but Roberts flubbed it more.

Here is the correct oath:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

In addition to the misplaced adverb "faithfully", which they both screwed up, Roberts further screwed up the oath by calling the office "President to the United States".

I guess they were nervous.///

406 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:24:26pm

re: #399 Iron Fist

Interesting anecdote, but we are drifting from the issue. Hamas lost this battle, but it was only one battle in the slow war. The next battle might be against Hamas again, or Hezbollah, or Syria or Iran. Or a combination.

Interesting detail here:

The Iranian Defense Minister went to Syria, to pressure the Hamas leadership-in-exile (who have veto power over the Hamas leaders in Gaza) to not accept any ceasefire deal with Israel. The Hamas leaders in Gaza want to cut a deal, because the Israeli ground invasion quickly revealed that Hamas fighters were no match for Israeli troops. The Israelis were much more aggressive than they were two years ago in southern Lebanon, and quickly killed any Hamas fighters they encountered, including a special unit of about a hundred fighters that had received combat training in Iran. As a result, most of the claimed 20,000 Hamas gunmen have deserted their units, leaving only some of the officers (5-10 percent of each unit) to carry on. By the second week of January, Israeli troops were mainly encountering Hamas officers in combat. This was very embarrassing for Iran, which had promised to turn Hamas into a crack fighting force. Back in Iran, this failure was blamed on the Arabs, who Iranians generally despise as lazy and stupid. In the Arab media, Iran is accused to sabotaging Hamas and causing the battlefield failures.

On the battlefield, Hamas were beaten in every encounter with the IDF. Most of the 1000+ Hamas killed were their best fighters, as the raw recruits ran away. Israel learned from their difficulties against Hezbollah in 2006. Iran had promised to make Hamas a superior fighting force. But they failed spectacularly. Not one IDF tank was seriously hit. Hamas was hammered & Iran was humiliated. And for a bonus, the Arab world is even more united against Iran.

407 avanti  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:25:52pm

re: #400 jcm

Late to the inauguration party.

Missed the oath. Caught the speech.

Speech seemed flat in both delivery, and content.

One line did piss me off big time. IMHO opinion clarifies for me that BHO does not like this country, the things it has accomplished, the things it stands for.


You left off the preceding line which describes the reason for the childest quote and took the line out of that context. .


"On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics. "

408 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:26:59pm

re: #394 Kenneth

Have you ever seen so many Hamas flags being displayed in Western Democracies? have you ever seen so many putative Democracies support (at least tacitly) a terrorist organization?
I don't have to like it, but I do have to tell the truth. This incursion (calling it a "war" is an insult to real wars) has done more for the popular support of Hamas than anything else Israel could have done.
Much of the stench of defeat could be erased if just once Israel actually achieved one of it's goals for once and for all. Refusing to allow Hamas to imprison, and no doubt brutalize, Gilad Shalit would be a sign that Israel has learned the error of their ways, but that didn't happen.

409 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:27:58pm

Fox news coverage just now -
Obama just stuck a piece of gum in his mouth.
LOL!
Really presidential.

410 jcm  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:28:48pm

re: #407 avanti

You left off the preceding line which describes the reason for the childest quote and took the line out of that context. .

"On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics. "



On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics.

We remain a young nation, but in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things. The time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit; to choose our better history; to carry forward that precious gift, that noble idea, passed on from generation to generation: the God-given promise that all are equal, all are free, and all deserve a chance to pursue their full measure of happiness.

Change of subject. Childish things is tied to our history, not petty politics.

411 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:34:15pm

re: #408 Lincolntf

Those flags and the creeps who waved them were already here. I don't think their numbers have increased.

The bottom line is Iran promised Hamas to turn them into a powerful fighting force. They failed. Israel demonstrated excellence as a superior military force. No country came to Hamas' aid. The Arab world blamed Hamas and is now more united against Iran than before. The UN proved it is even more useless & irrelevant than ever before.

As for so called "popular support", the Arab street is overrated in importance, and is very fickle. Force is respected, weakness is shunned. Hamas has been shown to be weak.

So what if a few jerks in London waved a Hamas flag? Feh!

412 grahamski  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:53:22pm

They had it on the TV in the pharmacy, I refused to watch it, and left work early to go for a motorcycle ride....I have better things to do with my time than watch that fraud.

413 Lincolntf  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:58:11pm

re: #411 Kenneth

So what? So what? You do understand that the popular will of people in those Democracies will determine the course that those Democracies take, right?
Whether it was the media, the politicians or a zeitgeist generated by a combination of the two, we are looking at millions of new supporters of the Hamas cause. Call that a win for Israel if it makes you feel better, but history dictates that it's just another in a long line of military failures.

414 A.W.  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:00:53pm

re: #352 buzzsawmonkey

Heh. Well, I heard that Bush II did a great rendition of the scene in Young Frankenstien when the doctor and the monster performed together, with Rehnquist as the monster.

(God bless his soul, but Rehnquist was a huge frankenstien's-monster-looking man. And my understand is he had a good enough sense of humor that he woudl probably find my comment funny.)

415 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:15:09pm

re: #413 Lincolntf

A million new supporters for Hamas? Where do you get those numbers? It looked to me like the same clowns out for any leftist-islamist-anarchist protest of the month. Irrelevant clowns the lot of them.

And I don't know what history you've read, but Israel has a good record of victories against their enemies. The record shows a steady decline in the number & strength of Israel's active enemies.

416 fredo malmstein  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:31:12pm

35 words. Couldn't even make it through 35 words. And he's the Supreme Court Chief Justice. Did he not practice it at all?

President Obama handled it with dignity and class.

Now let's get down to business.

417 FinallyHere  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:36:29pm

Barack OBama was so eager to finally let the World know that he was Husein Obama, that he interrupted Roberts in the middle of the first sentence. After that both got confused.

418 bse5150  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:43:26pm

Guys and girls:

Back off this oath thing right now. It makes you look small and bitter. Let's go after policy instead.

419 mommydoc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 2:06:42pm

Sorry not to read the entire thread, but I have to agree with those who point out that BO interrupted Chief Justice Roberts to start reciting right after his magnificent name was read. It threw the Chief Justice off, and it confirmed everything I already believe about our new President. He's so arrogant that he doesn't listen to anyone else and he's totally self-absorbed. The fact that he has now chosen to use his middle name "as an olive branch to the muslims" tells me he's coming out of the closet, as evidenced by "Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus..." Bastard now puts my people after the muslims.

Pop quiz: What was the ethnicity of the 3 civil rights workers murdered in Mississippi while registering African American voters, helping pave the way for an African American president?

Answer: 1 African American, 2 Jews. Nope, not one single muslim.

420 tbarney  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 2:06:42pm

BHO may have handled it with dignity, but W (or RR) would have found a way, as soon as practical, to make a warm, self-deprecating remark, a quick quip to indicate an attitude of "stuff happens, we're human, you're still a good man, it was probably my fault." (Especially if it obviously wasn't his fault.) W couldn't speechify off the cuff, but he could speak from the heart a whole lot better, that's for sure.

421 robdouth  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 2:29:14pm

re: #419 mommydoc

Sorry not to read the entire thread, but I have to agree with those who point out that BO interrupted Chief Justice Roberts to start reciting right after his magnificent name was read. It threw the Chief Justice off, and it confirmed everything I already believe about our new President. He's so arrogant that he doesn't listen to anyone else and he's totally self-absorbed. The fact that he has now chosen to use his middle name "as an olive branch to the muslims" tells me he's coming out of the closet, as evidenced by "Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus..." Bastard now puts my people after the muslims.

Pop quiz: What was the ethnicity of the 3 civil rights workers murdered in Mississippi while registering African American voters, helping pave the way for an African American president?

Answer: 1 African American, 2 Jews. Nope, not one single muslim.

In all fairness, muslim isn't an ethnicity, and that African American could have been a muslim, since you mention Jew in the racial/ethnic sense and not religious in that context. Point is still valid, however.

422 mommydoc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:01:33pm

robdouth, not really sure whatthehell your point is, since much of the world speaks of the "Jewish race" and calls antimuslim sentiment "racist." Nonetheless, James Chaney was indeed Christian and even Wikipedia refers to Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman as "New York State Jewish-Americans."

It doesn't change for a second the fact that US Jews were very much at the forefront of the civil rights movement, and, in fact, gave their lives defending the rights of African Americans to vote, and now an African American president gives muslims, who did and continue to sell kafir Africans into slavery, more importance than Jews.

423 infidel4ever  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:15:25pm

re: #413 Lincolntf

So what? So what? You do understand that the popular will of people in those Democracies will determine the course that those Democracies take, right?
Whether it was the media, the politicians or a zeitgeist generated by a combination of the two, we are looking at millions of new supporters of the Hamas cause. Call that a win for Israel if it makes you feel better, but history dictates that it's just another in a long line of military failures.

They are not "new" supporters of Hamas, they have just clearly shown themselves to be supporters of a terrorist organisation and plain old Jew-haters. Muslims in Europe have always been supporters of whoever is against Israel. Lots of non-Muslims in Europe have now forcefully been confronted with the fact that all those so-called moderate, well integrated Muslims are a fifth column and that our governments are cowards and don't want to deal with the problem. Nice wake-up call. Wait for the effect of that to trickle down during future elections.

I call that a bonus. Thanks Israel!

424 princetrumpet  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:30:58pm

Yup, he interrupted Chief Justice Roberts, no question. That disrupted the rhythm and they should have gotten a guy with a clapper board to yell "Take two!"

425 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:55:49pm

I think Roberts paused slightly after Obama's name and Obama thought it was time for him to repeat. It's sort of customary to pause after that first phrase: "I, Barack Hussein Obama...." I'll bet Obama rehearsed it that way.

In any case, Roberts definitely got the oath wrong--the word "faithfully" was in the wrong spot--and it's pretty obvious that Obama paused at that point to let him correct it. But Roberts got it wrong a second time, at which point Obama just repeated the first thing Roberts had said. Which was wrong.

Much ado about nothing. There will be plenty to bash the big O about, but this ain't it.

426 mommydoc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:24:28pm

re: #425 Charles

I'll give you that one, Charles, if you can explain to me why every time I try to close IE7 (yeah, I know, but still) and you have a video embedded on the front page (you're still my home page and I always leave the tab open to LGF), I get an Internet Explorer Script Error on line 53 character 3 object required. It asks me if I want to keep running scripts on that page.

I still think he's an arrogant, self-absorbed not-so-closet socialist, but he's now my president and he has my loyalty. And my fervent prayer that he'll prove to be better for this country than I think he will be.

427 mommydoc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:46:28pm

And, proving my point that Obama is already showing signs of throwing the Jews who helped make him under the bus, with the help of the MSM, is the piece ABC just ran on the Mikva Challenge students from Chicago's South Side who came to the inauguration all full of hope for their future in politics. Most of them too young to vote themselves, they registered voters to vote for Obama.

I was intrigued by the name, since the only mikvah I know about is the Jewish ritual bath. Looky here:

The Mikva Challenge is a nonpartisan 501(c)3 organization that prioritizes the development of civic leadership in underserved Chicago high school youth. Mikva Challenge was founded in 1997 as a tribute to former White House Counsel, Judge and U.S. Congressman Abner Mikva and his wife Zoe, a lifelong education activist. We help low-income Chicago youth become meaningful actors in politics and, by doing so, we honor the Mikvas’ decades of inspiring young adults to embark on careers in public service and politics.

And who is Abner Mikva?

[Link: www.chicagojewishnews.com...]

428 bluegrassredstate  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:07:46pm

Barack threw him off by interrupting Roberts in the first line.

429 ihatepantz  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:37:59pm

I'm at a loss for words over the whole thing. Is it tradition for celebrities to break out in song and dance during the 'Ball'? I figured such a huge, 'historical' event would be a bit more classy than I've seen so far tonight.

430 mommydoc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 7:01:35pm

re: #429 ihatepantz

Don't you know? The Obamas are singlehandedly redefining "classy." After all, Michelle is now hailed as a fashion icon and compared with Jackie Kennedy! And if you say anything different, why, you're a racist!

God help me if I ever dress as dowdily as Michelle.

431 Lynn B.  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 7:23:43pm

In related trivia ...

Truman's bare initial caused an unusual slip when he first became president and took the oath of office. At a meeting in the Cabinet Room, Chief Justice Harlan Stone began reading the oath by saying "I, Harry Shipp Truman, . . ." Truman responded: "I, Harry S. Truman, . . ."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

432 Lynn B.  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 7:26:02pm

re: #430 mommydoc

Don't you know? The Obamas are singlehandedly redefining "classy." After all, Michelle is now hailed as a fashion icon and compared with Jackie Kennedy! And if you say anything different, why, you're a racist!

God help me if I ever dress as dowdily as Michelle.

I would hardly qualify as an expert. But I do find her fashion sense to be ... obaminable.

And I'm old enough to remember Jackie K/O.

433 mommydoc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 7:40:44pm

re: #432 Lynn B.

I agree with you and I, too, remember Jackie K/O. And Michelle is no Jackie K/O. Not even close.

And there is something incredibly weird about her face. She almost looks Downs syndrome-ish.

434 cancuz  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 7:55:22pm

There's nothing like seeing it in black and white to make it really hit home. Seeing the oath and his full name feels like waking up from a nightmare (election night) only to realize you're still in it. Hang on folks.

435 ken_brun  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 9:37:57pm

It's the fault of the organizers ! It was a conspiracy !

Everyone knows that B-HO can't work without a teleprompter, and still they put him out there without his video crutch ! Shameful, just shameful !

436 caligal  Wed, Jan 21, 2009 4:22:08pm

and now mr. gaffe man himself, biden, is mocking CJ Roberts.

437 califleftyb  Wed, Jan 21, 2009 5:38:06pm

Obama should retake the Oath - he can do so in private administered by any Federal judge. Guess what, both Calvin Coolidge and Chester Arthur did for the same reason!

438 califleftyb  Wed, Jan 21, 2009 6:32:46pm

re: #437 califleftyb

update: Obama DID retake the oath in the Oval Office today - administered by Roberts!

439 Optimizer  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 7:06:39pm

A belated "Thank You" to Charles for posting this. I finally got a chance to look at it, and was curious as to the real story after hearing so many different versions.

For the record, I don't think anybody on here quite got the story right.

1) Roberts didn't pause after Obama's name, which is where they customarily pause, but paused long enough before the next word that Obama reasonably assumed that it was his turn and he started. Roberts didn't have the presence of mind to realize that he should then stop, and so he kept on going, and they ended up speaking at the same time. So Obama started from scratch. The mix-up probably threw Roberts off.

2) Roberts then blew the phrase "that I will execute the office of president to the United States faithfully", by putting the word "faithfully" at the end, rather than before "execute". He also screwed up by saying "President to" instead of "President of".

3) When Obama followed along, and got to the word "execute", it sounds to me like he said to himself, "Wait. That's not right." And so he paused.

4) By then I think they both realized it was f-ed up. So Roberts tried damage control by putting "faithful" next (instead of where he had put it the first time), even though it has to go before the "execute", which had already just been said. Obama, rather than process that, and adopt Roberts new plan, simply kept to Roberts' original line.

In summary, Roberts screwed up the rhythm by not pausing at the usual spot and by continuing on while Obama spoke. Then got flustered and screwed up the next phrase. Obama didn't "correct the error" as some had claimed, but I think he clearly recognized it. He was just too late to fix it.

BTW, the Constitution says, "Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: - " So call him the President or not, he doesn't (technically) have the authority to do anything until he takes the oath.


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