Europe Considers Welcoming 60 Gitmo Detainees

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Europe has been overwhelmingly sympathetic to the terror suspects imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay, so this seems like a very good idea.

France is pushing for European Union countries to take 60 of the detainees deemed innocent but at risk of torture in their home country, according to a report by the German magazine Der Spiegel that was picked up by Reuters.

Notice that the Europeans are only interested in the ones “deemed innocent.” Naturally.

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391 comments
1 Sharmuta  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:45:38am

They’re welcome to them.

2 Cathypop  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:46:46am

Put the detainees on a leaky boat and send them to France

3 [deleted]  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:47:09am
4 Randall Gross  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:47:10am

Hrmm. Perhaps they can house them in the banelieus to create the Euro-Nasrallah and followers…

5 loppyd  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:47:21am

What do they want in return?

6 notutopia  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:47:39am

Have at ‘em Europe.

7 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:47:52am

Hell, take ‘em all! Buy 60, get the rest free!

8 [deleted]  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:47:54am
9 itellu3times  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:47:58am

It’s - it’s a cookbook!

10 [deleted]  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:48:12am
11 twincitiesgirl  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:48:43am

Good for them! Even better for us.

12 loppyd  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:49:33am

And they didn’t make this offer until just now why?

13 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:49:37am

“deemed innocent”? by who (whom)?

14 loppyd  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:49:48am

BBIAB

15 USCMSNE  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:50:35am

I like the general flailing over Guantanamo. Everyone was up in arms and demanded we close the prison. But when asked for viable alternatives… Cricket Chirps. There’s a larger and longer argument against Liberalism there. Decision making methods independent of consequences. I think Europe is going to balk at taking them, like Australia. They’d rather be part of the problem than be part of the solution.

16 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:50:40am

re: #9 itellu3times

To serve man?

17 Gella  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:50:42am

soon GB and France will become 100% muslim countries

18 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:52:22am

Good for them. Enjoy.

19 rawmuse  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:53:00am

You know darned well that these people are going to end up driving cab in Newark or Detroit.

20 notutopia  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:53:08am

Ah……
France has submitted its proposal to leaders across Europe AHEAD of a Monday meeting of EU foreign ministers in Brussels.
France.

21 itellu3times  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:53:30am

re: #16 BatGuano

Certainement.

22 jaunte  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:53:47am

Marc Rich has some extra rooms.

23 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:54:00am

re: #13 BatGuano

“deemed innocent”? by who (whom)?

My guess is they only killed infidels, so what’s the big deal?

24 CyanSnowHawk  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:54:06am

So, the Bastille is open for business again?

/oh, silly me Europe hasn’t been serious about terrorists for some time now.

25 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:54:51am

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Good for them. Enjoy.

I just have to keep remembering that a lot of French citizens DO NOT agree with the French government. I know for a fact, I have spoken to them, face to face, in France.

This is so much the EU, and has little to do with the average citizen. The EU is the problem, and they are going to destroy Europe.

26 itellu3times  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:55:00am

re: #23 rwmofo

My guess is they only killed infidels, so what’s the big deal?

And heretics.

27 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:55:29am

So, we just send them the not violent terrorists.

28 Blackacre  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:55:42am

Let them put them in a 21st century Bastille and then the locals can to do it what the locals did 220 years ago. Hey, EU, be careful what you wish for folks.

29 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:56:02am

AFP reporter Pepe LePew was quoted as saying, “Hey they smell just like us. Welcome!”

31 pat  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:56:10am

I don’t know. That poodle out the country in a tizzy. 60 mad dogs might be more than France can handle.

32 zombie  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:56:16am
60 of the detainees deemed innocent

“Deemed innocent”?!? By who? Is there some secret information that Europeans possess about the factual innocence of Guantanamo detainees?

Or is it, as I suspect, wishful thinking?

33 William  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:56:58am

This just in:


Two ex-Guantanamo inmates appear in Al-Qaeda video

23 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) — Two men released from the US “war on terror” prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba have appeared in a video posted on a jihadist website, the SITE monitoring service reported.

One of the two former inmates, a Saudi man identified as Abu Sufyan al-Azdi al-Shahri, or prisoner number 372, has been elevated to the senior ranks of Al-Qaeda in Yemen, a US counter-terrorism official told AFP.

Three other men appear in the video, including Abu al-Hareth Muhammad al-Oufi, identified as an Al-Qaeda field commander. SITE later said he was prisoner No. 333.

A Pentagon spokesman, Commander Jeffrey Gordon, on Saturday declined to confirm the SITE information.

“We remain concerned about ex-Guantanamo detainees who have re-affiliated with terrorist organizations after their departure,” said Gordon.

“We will continue to work with the international community to mitigate the threat they pose,” he said.

On the video, al-Shihri is seen sitting with three other men before a flag of the Islamic State of Iraq, the front for Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

“By Allah, imprisonment only increased our persistence in our principles for which we went out, did jihad for, and were imprisoned for,” al-Shihri was quoted as saying.

Al-Shiri was transferred from Guantanamo to Saudi Arabia in 2007, the US counter-terrorism official said.

The other men in the video are identified as Commander Abu Baseer al-Wahayshi and Abu Hureira Qasm al-Rimi (also known as Abu Hureira al-Sana’ani).

The Defense Department has said as many as 61 former Guantanamo detainees — about 11 percent of 520 detainees transferred from the detention center and released — are believed to have returned to the fight.

The latest case highlights the risk the new US administration faces as it moves to empty Guantanamo of its remaining 245 prisoners and close the controversial detention camp within a year.

[Link: www.google.com…]

34 William  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:58:28am

re: #1 Sharmuta

They’re welcome to them.

Problem is, the Euros will release them, and they’ll be back to flying airliners into Americans sitting in American buildings.

35 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:58:40am

Way OT. American gangster is on in 3 min. do I watch or carry on here? Is it any good?

36 lawhawk  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:59:00am

re: #24 CyanSnowHawk

Devil’s Island… because for all the talk about the Europeans taking these detainees, they’re really going to end up somewhere where those detainees will be treated far worse.

That’s really what this is about. As bad as everyone slams the US for Gitmo, all the other options are far worse. The US can’t send some to certain countries because of concerns over torture (that’s the real fingernail pulling variety with physical harm), refusal of the countries to accept them (China refuses to accept a bunch of Uighurs), and so these detainees are in Gitmo where they can do no further harm to US national security.

Hoping that the rehabilitation programs in Saudi Arabia and Yemen are going to keep these detainees on the straight and narrow is a pipe dream at best, and a fool’s errand in reality; both countries have seen detainees end up back in the jihad. That’s not exactly confidence inspiring.

37 loppyd  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:59:32am

re: #35 Erik The Red

Way OT. American gangster is on in 3 min. do I watch or carry on here? Is it any good?

It was pretty good, IMHO

38 zombie  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:59:59am

Considering that mass murderers in Europe frequently serve 15 years or less in prison (a study showed that the average “life sentence” in England was 10 years), even if the detainees get convicted, they’ll be let out for time served. Seriously.

And then given government benefits, a free apartment, and permission to bring 4 wives into the country.

39 path  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:00:20am

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

I agree. And, we’re what - about 5 to 10 years behind them?

40 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:00:24am

If they were “innocent” why did we keep them at Gitmo?

41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:00:27am

re: #35 Erik The Red

Denzel? ‘Nuff said.

Crowe? ‘Nuff said.

Excellent movie.

42 Dom  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:00:35am

I don’t see why Europe shouldn’t pitch in to rehabilitate those deemed innocent.

43 loppyd  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:01:25am

re: #33 William

And just now people are starting to realize “hey these are some pretty bad mo-fos.”

44 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:01:28am

re: #37 loppyd

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OK. Later Lizards see you on the hopen thread tomorrow.

45 notutopia  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:01:33am

EU not asked yet to take Guantanamo prisoners
[Link: www.iht.com…]

What will Obama decide.

46 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:01:49am

re: #34 William

Problem is, the Euros will release them, and they’ll be back to flying airliners into Americans sitting in American buildings.

Good point.

47 zombie  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:01:54am

Because, as we all know, infidels captured by the jihadists are treated so well, given a fair and prompt trial, and released with a monitoring ankle bracelet after a couple weeks.

48 zombie  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:03:53am

re: #40 littleoldlady

If they were “innocent” why did we keep them at Gitmo?

Because America is a sadistic “torture culture” which derives pleasure from oppressing innocent brown people — Duh! You obviously are due for an indoctrination refresher.

49 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:05:04am

Why isn’t this in Der Spiegel’s on-line edition?

50 loppyd  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:05:17am

re: #40 littleoldlady

If they were “innocent” why did we keep them at Gitmo?

Either their home countries did not want them or we couldn’t guarantee they wouldn’t be killed or tortured if returned.

51 pegcity  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:05:24am

re: #48 zombie

lol, we’ll see how tolerant all these lefty schmucks in L.A are when its a smoking hole in the ground,

52 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:05:29am

re: #36 lawhawk

… Hoping that the rehabilitation programs in Saudi Arabia and Yemen are going to keep these detainees on the straight and narrow is a pipe dream at best, and a fool’s errand in reality; both countries have seen detainees end up back in the jihad. That’s not exactly confidence inspiring.


2 Former “Rehabilitated” Gitmo Grads Appear in Al-Qaeda Movie

53 loppyd  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:05:38am

re: #44 Erik The Red

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OK. Later Lizards see you on the hopen thread tomorrow.

Enjoy!

54 Sunlight  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:05:58am

The Euros took those dudes that trashed the Church of the Nativity and had all those hostages… how did that work out? Did they live there ok? Did they make their way back to WB/Gaza to fight another day?

55 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:06:17am

re: #51 pegcity

lol, we’ll see how tolerant all these lefty schmucks in L.A are when its a smoking hole in the ground,

Americans (Bush) will be blamed for making them mad.

56 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:06:20am

re: #47 zombie

No, they don’t allow ankle jewelry.

57 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:06:23am

Do the ones deemed innocent get more freedom at Gitmo?

58 loppyd  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:06:29am

Off to the grocery store.

Have a good afternoon, Lizard Nation!

59 VioletTiger  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:06:41am

I didn’t know that there were any ‘innocents’ at Gitmo. Who is doing the deeming, anyway?

60 unrealizedviewpoint  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:07:15am

re: #50 loppyd

Either their home countries did not want them or we couldn’t guarantee they wouldn’t be killed or tortured if returned.

or maybe released?

61 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:07:22am

re: #39 path

I agree. And, we’re what - about 5 to 10 years behind them?

No, maybe a few weeks. Our governor here in Colorado has offered to take all of them, but them in Super Max here in Florence. We already have the blind sheik, but I guess he’s not so much a draw for the tourists anymore.

62 Sunlight  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:07:46am

re: #51 pegcity

lol, we’ll see how tolerant all these lefty schmucks in L.A are when its a smoking hole in the ground,

I’m actually unconvinced at this point that they care if this happens. If they’d even say “whooopsie” if it did or have any concept that they evaluated this stuff wrong and should have done something different.

63 Blackacre  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:08:24am

re: #59 VioletTiger

I didn’t know that there were any ‘innocents’ at Gitmo. Who is doing the deeming, anyway?

Maybe Jimmy will proclaim that they only committed jihad in their hearts.

64 lawhawk  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:08:37am

re: #52 reine.de.tout

And for those who think that the standard criminal justice system is up to the task, a convicted terrorist who had a 30 year sentence handed down in 1993, is now getting released February 19, 2009 - on good behavior. He had plotted to blow up a bunch of Israeli-related buildings in NYC.

In 1973, a young terrorist named Khalid Duhham Al-Jawary entered the United States and quickly began plotting an audacious attack in New York City.

He built three powerful bombs — bombs powerful enough to kill, maim and destroy — and put them in rental cars scattered around town, near Israeli targets.

The plot failed. The explosive devices did not detonate, and Al-Jawary fled the country, escaping prosecution for nearly two decades — until he was convicted of terrorism charges in Brooklyn and sentenced to 30 years in federal penitentiary.

But his time is up.

In less than a month, the 63-year-old Al-Jawary is expected to be released. He will likely be deported; where to is anybody’s guess. The shadowy figure had so many aliases it’s almost impossible to know which country is his true homeland.

Al-Jawary has never admitted his dark past or offered up tidbits in exchange for his release. Much of Al-Jawary’s life remains a mystery — even to the dogged FBI case agent who tracked him down.

What are the chances he goes back to his terror ways? 50/50? I fully expect to be hearing from him again.

65 Dahveed  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:08:46am

How many of these “deemed innocent” went back and killed more Americans? What exactly will France put on the line should these 60 do the same?

67 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:09:03am

re: #62 Sunlight

I’m actually unconvinced at this point that they care if this happens. If they’d even say “whooopsie” if it did or have any concept that they evaluated this stuff wrong and should have done something different.

They’d blame it on Bush one way or another.

I hope to never have the ability to prove this theorem, but my guess is if any American city turns into a smoking hole, I’ll be correct.

68 alegrias  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:09:24am

re: #5 loppyd

What do they want in return?

* * * *
Europe, like John Murtha, would like some US DOLLARS to pump up his porkbarrel, in my opinion.

Europe wants US Pork dollars, since their economies are in the toilet despite all the welfare they give to terrorists and their four wives and multiple families.

69 n in wi  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:09:47am

re: #39 path

I agree. And, we’re what - about 5 to 10 years behind them?


4 to 8 would fit better

70 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:10:12am

re: #40 littleoldlady

If they were “innocent” why did we keep them at Gitmo?

Consider the notion that all the known information related to these people hasn’t been released, such as under what circumstances they were captured, what we’ve learned and all our classified methods and intelligence that was obtained. There’s clearly more, but this is a good starting point and the NY Times would love to have this information in their was against the US.

71 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:10:51am

re: #48 zombie

Because America is a sadistic “torture culture” which derives pleasure from oppressing innocent brown people — Duh! You obviously are due for an indoctrination refresher.

OY! (slaps forehead) What was I thinking?!

re: #50 loppyd

Either their home countries did not want them or we couldn’t guarantee they wouldn’t be killed or tortured if returned.

If they were “innocent” why wouldn’t their home countries want them?

/I think I need an up-to-date definition of “innocent”.

72 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:10:55am

This is easy. We deem them all innocent. Get the cells luxury hotels in Paris ready. We’ll send them over.

73 [deleted]  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:11:01am
74 path  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:11:05am

re: #68 alegrias

* * * *
Europe, like John Murtha, would like some US DOLLARS to pump up his porkbarrel, in my opinion.

Europe wants US Pork dollars, since their economies are in the toilet despite all the welfare they give to terrorists and their four wives and multiple families.


…”dispite” or because of.

75 notutopia  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:11:40am

re: #52 reine.de.tout

2 Former “Rehabilitated” Gitmo Grads Appear in Al-Qaeda Movie

Gotta love that recidivism in the rehabilitation…
/
Lol. Send them to the Betty Ford Clinic, maybe they’d have a better chance at rehabilitation.

76 yma o hyd  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:11:47am

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

I just have to keep remembering that a lot of French citizens DO NOT agree with the French government. I know for a fact, I have spoken to them, face to face, in France.

This is so much the EU, and has little to do with the average citizen. The EU is the problem, and they are going to destroy Europe.

Absolutely.
Spot on.

The same goes for the UK - and people here have not forgotten that NuLab had a referendum vote for the European ‘Constitution’ in their last election platform.
Never happened, thank you, Gord!

This is pushed by politicians who trhive on ‘doing’ something, anything, never mind the people who voted for them.
The EU is the greatest and richest sinecure for politicians who are finished in their own countries - its got nothing to do with democracy.

And finally … don’t forget that ‘talking about it’ in politics means ‘so we don’t have to make a decision, but look good while not making one’!

77 rawmuse  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:11:49am

re: #66 Killgore Trout

People tend to think that the Great Depression hit all at once, on Black Friday. But it did not, it unfolded over a period of several years, in a series of setbacks, each one bigger than the last.

78 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:11:56am

re: #35 Erik The Red

Way OT. American gangster is on in 3 min. do I watch or carry on here? Is it any good?

/it’s very good and a true story

79 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:12:39am

re: #71 littleoldlady

If they were “innocent” why wouldn’t their home countries want them?

/I think I need an up-to-date definition of “innocent”.

Little old lady! I missed the damn fruit cup this morning! I am so pissed off!

80 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:12:45am

re: #70 rwmofo

Consider the notion that all the known information related to these people hasn’t been released, such as under what circumstances they were captured, what we’ve learned and all our classified methods and intelligence that was obtained. There’s clearly more, but this is a good starting point and the NY Times would love to have this information in their was against the US.

…the NY Times would love to have this information in their war against the US.

81 stevieray  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:13:29am

Maybe we can work out a deal… swap those accused of terrorism from us, and we’ll take those accused of “offending Islam” from them. I look forward to the inevitable day when Pat Condell shows up on our shores.

82 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:13:42am

re: #77 rawmuse

It’s painful to watch this all unfold. Like a train wreck in slow motion.

83 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:13:57am

re: #63 Blackacre

Do you mean the same Jimmy that said we would take all Cubans and Castro emptied his prisons and mental health facilities. That Jimmy?

84 infidel4ever  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:14:44am

Our brave leader Balkenende had said the Netherlands are not going to take any. Of course that means sh*t since only one country in the EU has to accept them and these poor innocent souls terrorists have the right to settle anywhere within the EU.

Islamisation on the fast track: importing the future leaders of Al Qaeda in Europe…

85 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:14:58am

re: #79 HoosierHoops

Little old lady! I missed the damn fruit cup this morning! I am so pissed off!

Waste not, want not. Have some leftovers!

Hoosier! :-)

86 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:15:03am

re: #40 littleoldlady

If they were “innocent” why did we keep them at Gitmo?

/actually, for quite a few of them, we don’t even know who they really are, they just ended up in our custody one way or another

87 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:15:49am

re: #86 Killian Bundy

/actually, for quite a few of them, we don’t even know who they really are, they just ended up in our custody one way or another

Kafka lives.

88 n in wi  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:15:57am

re: #64 lawhawk

“Willful Blindness” by Andrew C. McCarthy, the federal prosecutor that tried the Blind Sheikh, lays out just how inadequate the Justice system is to fight terror.

89 rawmuse  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:16:04am

re: #82 Killgore Trout

You and I both are more than a little concerned. If you are like me, you have seen all financial equity of the last decade erased with breath taking speed. Fortunately I just last week landed a good project that will keep me alive until April or so.

90 jaunte  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:16:10am

re: #83 BatGuano

Eventually, the Cuban ex-prisoners stole Jimmy’s bike.

91 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:16:15am

re: #85 littleoldlady
{littleoldlady}
How’s tricks?

92 CharlieBravo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:16:55am

I asked in a previous thread: When faced with the quick decision of taking a prisoner and facing ACLU attorneys to explain why — or not taking the prisoner. What would your decision be?

93 rightymouse  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:16:57am

These Gitmo people should be relocated to San Francisco. Seriously.

94 RubyTuesday  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:17:12am

Screw Mexico - put a fence around Europe.

95 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:17:28am

re: #76 yma o hyd

Absolutely.
Spot on.

The same goes for the UK - and people here have not forgotten that NuLab had a referendum vote for the European ‘Constitution’ in their last election platform.
Never happened, thank you, Gord!

This is pushed by politicians who trhive on ‘doing’ something, anything, never mind the people who voted for them.
The EU is the greatest and richest sinecure for politicians who are finished in their own countries - its got nothing to do with democracy.

And finally … don’t forget that ‘talking about it’ in politics means ‘so we don’t have to make a decision, but look good while not making one’!

The EU is a, as taxfreekiller would say, a money cult. The members have no real loyalty to any country, and they are banking so much of Europe’s money.

I read most of the major European news sources on a weekly basis, and it’s amazing what Europe puts up with when it comes to the EU.

But, then again, look what we are putting up with in DC.

This whole planet is in the grip of people who’s only purpose it to become rich off the resources of us all.

96 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:17:48am

re: #91 Jim in Virginia

{My Rove!} :-)

/I’m freeeeeeeezing!
//feh.

97 Occasional Reader  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:17:58am

What’s the French term for “ticker-tape parade”?

98 brookly red  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:18:39am

I don’t remember where I heard it (maybe here?) but some one recently suggested that this was a trick indented to pull the US into the world court… I can’t say y/n to that but it has implications that concern me.

99 [deleted]  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:18:39am
100 William  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:18:51am

re: #77 rawmuse

People tend to think that the Great Depression hit all at once, on Black Friday. But it did not, it unfolded over a period of several years, in a series of setbacks, each one bigger than the last.

Folks who think this will ‘go away’ in a few months, or even a year or two, don’t understand the scope of the problem.

101 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:18:55am

re: #92 CharlieBravo

I asked in a previous thread: When faced with the quick decision of taking a prisoner and facing ACLU attorneys to explain why — or not taking the prisoner. What would your decision be?

Lotsa bad guys were “left” on the battlefield. Funny how the ACLU/MSM doesn’t really care about them.

102 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:18:56am

re: #96 littleoldlady

{My Rove!} :-)

/I’m freeeeeeeezing!
//feh.

If it is going to be this bleeping cold, I want some snow too.

103 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:18:56am

re: #71 littleoldlady

If we say they are innocent, then they didn’t do their jobs and they need to be killed.Makes perfect sense.

104 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:19:00am

re: #90 jaunte

Eventually, the Cuban ex-prisoners stole Jimmy’s bike.

Then the owner of a bicycle shop gave wealthy Jimmy and Rosalynn bikes.

105 ayatollah ghilmeini  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:19:17am

I have absolutely no doubts whatsoever that some of these guys are only very dangerous.

Think of the rich threads of culture they will bring to the European tapestry of culture!

106 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:20:17am

re: #95 Walter L. Newton

This whole planet is in the grip of people who’s only purpose it to become rich off the resources of us all.

It always has been.

107 Fat Jolly Penguin  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:20:20am

Oh good, far enough along for an OT (trust me, it’s worth it).

Iowahawk updated the Idiossey to reflect the election and Immaculation.

108 n in wi  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:20:24am

re: #104 MandyManners

Then the owner of a bicycle shop gave wealthy Jimmy and Rosalynn bikes.


Did brother Billy get a tricycle?

109 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:20:24am

re: #97 Occasional Reader

What’s the French term for “ticker-tape parade”?

We’ll tolerate the Americans for a little while, but they must go. Even though they’re brave and tough, they don’t even speak French.

110 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:20:46am

re: #92 CharlieBravo

I asked in a previous thread: When faced with the quick decision of taking a prisoner and facing ACLU attorneys to explain why — or not taking the prisoner. What would your decision be?

Catching an unlawful combatant on the battlefield?

/interrogation followed by summary execution, that’s all they’re entitled to under the The Law of Land Warfare

111 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:21:01am

re: #89 rawmuse

Good news.

112 notutopia  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:21:15am

re: #97 Occasional Reader

What’s the French term for “ticker-tape parade”?

The EU theme song

Youtube Video
113 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:21:16am

re: #100 William NIce chart but it only goes to 2006. What has the index done since then?

114 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:21:35am

RoP work accident….

Insurgent Blows Himself Up With RPG While Trying To Shoot At US Forces In Iraq

Fail.

115 Bobblehead  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:21:37am

Obviously, the French have some more cars that need burning.

116 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:22:08am

re: #32 zombie

“Deemed innocent”?!? By who? Is there some secret information that Europeans possess about the factual innocence of Guantanamo detainees?

Or is it, as I suspect, wishful thinking?

How dare you question the absolute moral authority of our European betters?

117 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:22:15am

re: #108 n in wi

Did brother Billy get a tricycle?

With a shiny bell.

118 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:22:25am

Missing link: RoP Work accident…..
Insurgent Blows Himself Up With RPG While Trying To Shoot At US Forces In Iraq

Liveleak Video
119 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:22:36am

re: #103 BatGuano

If we say they are innocent, then they didn’t do their jobs and they need to be killed.Makes perfect sense.

Ya know…I think you’ve got something there. Let’s declare Osama bin Laden “innocent” and a “friend of America”.

/Psych-ops ‘R Us!

BatGuano! :-)

120 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:22:44am

re: #97 Occasional Reader

What’s the French term for “ticker-tape parade”?

défilé de bande de téléimprimeur

121 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:23:54am

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Missing link: RoP Work accident…..
Insurgent Blows Himself Up With RPG While Trying To Shoot At US Forces In Iraq

Liveleak Video

Wow. Rest in pieces.

122 Occasional Reader  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:24:30am

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Missing link: RoP Work accident…..
Insurgent Blows Himself Up With RPG While Trying To Shoot At US Forces In Iraq


[Video]

Abu Wile E. Coyote is a hero martyr of Islam!

123 opinionated  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:24:32am

Give us your killers, your Jihadists, your huddled terrorists, yearning to kill Infidels. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the murderers, water boarded to me. I will drop my security beside the believers sword.”

124 yma o hyd  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:24:35am

re: #115 Bobblehead

Obviously, the French have some more cars that need burning.

Sure - stimulates their economy - makes people buy more cars …

///

125 lawhawk  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:24:39am

re: #97 Occasional Reader

What’s the French term for “ticker-tape parade”?

Schadenfreude.

126 n in wi  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:25:15am

re: #115 Bobblehead

Obviously, the French have some more cars that need burning.

Part of the Stimuli package. Send Gitmo prisoners to France to riot and burn cars. Sell new cars to the French. Keep UAW workers employed.


I call it the Stimuli package because it has 1 purpose. Keep Dems in power.

127 Occasional Reader  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:25:22am

re: #120 Walter L. Newton

défilé de bande de téléimprimeur

How dare you défilé my snarkiness with a straight response.

128 yma o hyd  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:25:30am

re: #125 lawhawk

Schadenfreude.

Heh.
The French speak German now?

129 jaunte  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:25:45am

re: #122 Occasional Reader

Al-Acme RPG Co.

130 Miss Trixie  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:25:50am

re: #97 Occasional Reader

What’s the French term for “ticker-tape parade”?

I’m not sure, but rules dictate that there must be an a**h*** every three feet.

131 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:26:01am

re: #119 littleoldlady

HI littleoldlady!I snuck in at 2am and got fruitcup. I didn’t post ‘cause I had nothing to say. I should have said “Hi” and “thank you”, though. My bad.

132 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:26:18am

As I said above, governor Ritter here in Colorado said he would take a bunch of them, put them in Super Max. Gee, that’s an open invitation for revenge against our state.

133 nyc redneck  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:26:34am

europe is their own worst enemy.
that ‘always -room-for-one-more-terrorist’ approach is going to be their undoing.

they should get kalid sheik mohammed. he could at least be a money maker.
put the hairy sob in a cage at the zoo and charge an extra fee.
“live head chopper”

134 lawhawk  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:27:06am

re: #128 yma o hyd

It sounds better when you use a French accent.

135 debutaunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:27:10am

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Good for them. Enjoy.

Who is responsible for them being sufficiently ‘deemed’ ?

136 the other amy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:27:12am

I thought ticker-tape parades would be for when you won a war or something. So why would the French even need a word for ticker tape parade?

137 itellu3times  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:27:31am

re: #82 Killgore Trout

It’s painful to watch this all unfold. Like a train wreck in slow motion.

Been reading Belmont Club? wretchard is very depressed, more like watching the fall of the Roman empire.

But back to the market:

Analysts say if the Dow can hang on to this level in the weeks ahead, that’s a good indication that a bottom has been set.

Ain’t gonna happen. We’ll be calling him President 6000 in a few weeks.

The thing is, there’s a fair chance that after that, things will be nothing but up for the next 3.9 years. Get the bad news out of the way, right?

138 Occasional Reader  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:27:38am

re: #132 Walter L. Newton

As I said above, governor Ritter here in Colorado said he would take a bunch of them, put them in Super Max. Gee, that’s an open invitation for revenge against our state.

Hmm… wrong impulse, Walter.

139 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:28:04am

re: #131 BatGuano

HI littleoldlady!I snuck in at 2am and got fruitcup. I didn’t post ‘cause I had nothing to say. I should have said “Hi” and “thank you”, though. My bad.

So you are the one that took my fruit cup? LOL
I’ll get you!

140 debutaunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:28:23am

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

I just have to keep remembering that a lot of French citizens DO NOT agree with the French government. I know for a fact, I have spoken to them, face to face, in France.

This is so much the EU, and has little to do with the average citizen. The EU is the problem, and they are going to destroy Europe.

Break the union! Strike!

141 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:28:45am

re: #131 BatGuano

S’okay. I knew you were there.

/littleoldlady knows all and sees all.
//either than or the “guano” gave you away… ;-)

142 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:28:46am

re: #127 Occasional Reader

How dare you défilé my snarkiness with a straight response.

Ah, “défilé in English is procession, as in parade. Good try.
/

143 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:29:09am

re: #132 Walter L. Newton

As I said above, governor Ritter here in Colorado said he would take a bunch of them, put them in Super Max. Gee, that’s an open invitation for revenge against our state.

And I haven’t even exacted revenge for John Denver yet

144 Bobblehead  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:29:16am

If the French want them I say ship them FedEx. The sooner we quit providing luxury accommodations for that scum, the better.

145 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:29:40am

re: #136 the other amy

I thought ticker-tape parades would be for when you won a war or something. So why would the French even need a word for ticker tape parade?

For the Germans silly.
/

146 itellu3times  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:29:57am

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

This is so much the EU, and has little to do with the average citizen. The EU is the problem, and they are going to destroy Europe.

Eau de socialism.

147 Blackacre  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:29:57am

re: #83 BatGuano

Do you mean the same Jimmy that said we would take all Cubans and Castro emptied his prisons and mental health facilities. That Jimmy?

That’s the one.

148 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:29:57am

re: #136 the other amy

I thought ticker-tape parades would be for when you won a war or something. So why would the French even need a word for ticker tape parade?

Well, they haven’t really needed to use that phrase since the American military pushed Germany out of France, so never mind.

149 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:31:06am

re: #146 itellu3times

Eau de socialism.

Is that like koolaid?

150 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:31:15am

re: #139 HoosierHoops

Hey, I was lurking, you weren’t looking. What’s a boy to do?

151 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:32:40am

And another thing, we ended up with many of these detainees indirectly, turned over to us by third parties, so we don’t really know what they’re supposed to have done.

/you can imagine that not knowing who they are and/or what they’re supposed to have done makes it rather difficult to figure out how to dispose of them

152 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:33:01am

re: #129 jaunte
Geez juante - ya jumped over here without even looking at my #395 on the prior thread!

153 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:33:32am

re: #141 littleoldlady

But..but.. I was in stealth mode!

154 yma o hyd  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:34:20am

re: #134 lawhawk

It sounds better when you use a French accent.

True, dat!

155 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:34:49am

re: #141 littleoldlady
Hi there {littleoldlady} - how are you this morning.
Uh, waitaminute - it’s early afternoon - how come you’re out here so late?!

156 notutopia  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:35:09am

Let’s teleport the “deemed innocents” to mars to colonize a new federal prison system.
A la Heinlein style.

Scientist Teleport Matter More Than Three Feet
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

157 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:35:48am

re: #147 Blackacre

Thank you. Beer doesn’t feel good when violently ejected from nostrils.

158 jaunte  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:35:53am

re: #152 realwest

Hi realwest; thanks for the Imeem, I dinged it up, and I’ve been listening!

159 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:36:45am

re: #153 BatGuano
When littleoldlady is on the job there’s no such thing as “stealth”! Doncha know that by now?

160 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:37:12am

Ah cops at the door again, BBIAW!

161 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:37:29am

OT: Kennedy Family “Seething” Because of Governor Paterson

Heh. Senator Kennedy won’t be around much longer and with a Democrat majority we probably won’t see Ted screaming and slobbering on the senate floor (which was always a good indication that Republicans had a great idea).

162 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:38:01am

re: #155 realwest

{realwest!} :-)

Actually, I DO feel a nap coming on… ;-)

How’s by you?

163 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:38:02am

re: #137 itellu3times

Ain’t gonna happen. We’ll be calling him President 6000 in a few weeks.

The thing is, there’s a fair chance that after that, things will be nothing but up for the next 3.9 years. Get the bad news out of the way, right?

The market’s already priced in that the economy sucks and expects bad numbers. More bad news isn’t a surprise.

/DOW 7392 is The Alamo and, IMO, it’ll hold

164 CyanSnowHawk  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:38:17am

re: #160 realwest

Ah cops at the door again, BBIAW!

Cops?

165 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:38:18am

re: #159 realwest

I do now!

166 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:38:31am

Swim suit competition is on Miss America on TLC.

That is all.

167 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:38:45am

There has already been a considerable chunk of the released Gitmo prisoners that have returned to being active Jihadis and terrorists, and they by and large were the low-level cannon-fodder troops. The remaining “detainees” are the leaders and Europeans actually want the MOFOs?!? Why not just do a continent-wide Jonestown and drink the poisoned kool-aid? Either way non-Muslim Europe would be dead.

168 notutopia  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:39:53am

re: #159 realwest

When littleoldlady is on the job there’s no such thing as “stealth”! Doncha know that by now?

You’re not kidding either! She doles that stuff out by the dram and she can account for every drop on the DEA accounting form.

169 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:40:05am

re: #162 littleoldlady

{realwest!} :-)

Actually, I DO feel a nap coming on… ;-)

How’s by you?

No nap for you!
/ I wish we were not on different schedules..I love chatting with you..
About twice a frigging month

170 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:40:35am

re: #160 realwest

Ah cops at the door again, BBIAW!

WHAT DID YOU DO NOW?!

/and do you know any good lawyers? ;-)

Let me know the address of the hoosegow, and I’ll send you a cake (with a file in it). Meanwhile, it’s naptime!

Good day, ALL!™

171 CyanSnowHawk  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:40:47am

re: #166 MandyManners

Swim suit competition is on Miss America on TLC.

That is all.

But PBA Bowling is on ESPN. You’re Eastern time zone, aren’t you?

172 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:40:59am

re: #166 MandyManners

Thanks for the head’s up. No pun intended

173 jwb7605  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:41:02am

re: #164 CyanSnowHawk

Cops?

Probably about his friend, who died this morning.
I read that on a previous thread and couldn’t bring myself to reply.

174 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:41:19am

OT

It’s 17 degrees (f) outside. And spitting a little snow. They said no snow until Monday.

175 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:41:49am

re: #168 notutopia

You’re not kidding either! She doles that stuff out by the dram and she can account for every drop on the DEA accounting form.

All I need to do is buy TurboTax and not pay my taxes for a high-paying government job!

/yippee!

re: #169 HoosierHoops

You have a SCHEDULE?!

/Where can I get one?

176 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:42:28am

re: #174 Walter L. Newton

OT

It’s 17 degrees (f) outside. And spitting a little snow. They said no snow until Monday.

Better you than me. The weather services predicted snow here last night and I am pleased and relieved to find out this morning they were once again wrong. ;)

177 debutaunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:42:37am

re: #66 Killgore Trout

OT: Gird your loins…..

The week ahead: Investors gear up for a deluge of weak earnings and the biggest plunge in GDP in 26 years.

My money is out of the stock market and fully invested in lutes.

178 jwb7605  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:42:45am

re: #174 Walter L. Newton

OT

It’s 17 degrees (f) outside. And spitting a little snow. They said no snow until Monday.

16o up here, and about a half inch of snow.

179 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:42:56am

re: #173 jwb7605

Probably about his friend, who died this morning.
I read that on a previous thread and couldn’t bring myself to reply.

Oh, OH! I take back my jokes. :-(

180 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:42:59am

re: #170 littleoldlady

Bye, littleoldlady!

181 CyanSnowHawk  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:43:01am

re: #173 jwb7605

Probably about his friend, who died this morning.
I read that on a previous thread and couldn’t bring myself to reply.

Oh. Glad I withheld the snark. My condolences RW.

182 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:43:08am

Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

President Barack Obama’s pledge to seek a worldwide ban on weapons in space marks a dramatic shift in U.S. policy while posing the tricky issue of defining whether a satellite can be a weapon.

Moments after Obama’s inauguration last week, the White House website was updated to include policy statements on a range of issues, including a pledge to restore U.S. leadership on space issues and seek a worldwide ban on weapons that interfere with military and commercial satellites.

Oh boy, more good news from Obamaland!

/geez, quit teasing us, just surrender to China already and get it over with

183 unreconstructed rebel  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:43:12am
Notice that the Europeans are only interested in the ones “deemed innocent.” Naturally.

But, but … they are all innocent.

184 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:43:14am

re: #166 MandyManners

Swim suit competition is on Miss America on TLC.

That is all.

I’m just a bit surprised you announced this Mandy.

185 Muadib  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:43:26am

Give me your angry, your poor,
Your seething masses yearning to kill infidels,
The wretched refuse of the 6th century.
Send these, the insane, tempest-tossed to me,
I lay my head on the chopping block.

186 Steffan  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:43:36am

re: #166 MandyManners

Swim suit competition is on Miss America on TLC.

That is all.

JWF put the picture of the winner on his website.

Cowabunga, Buffalo Bob.

Incidentally: The NYP has a photo feature of the five worst celebutards.

#4 is Al Gore.

:)

187 Randall Gross  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:44:11am

re: #156 notutopia

Let’s teleport the “deemed innocents” to mars to colonize a new federal prison system.
A la Heinlein style.

Scientist Teleport Matter More Than Three Feet
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]


Argggg. Fox News - the poster child for bad science reporting

188 Boolz  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:44:44am

let’s deem them all innocent and give all of them tickets to Europe. One way, of course

189 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:45:10am

re: #182 Killian Bundy

Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

Oh boy, more good news from Obamaland!

/geez, quit teasing us, just surrender to China already and get it over with

I have yet to see him do ANYTHING even remotely substantive trying to get the economy back on track. You know, the thing a large chunk of those who voted for him wanted to tackle immediately?

190 Irish Rose  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:45:15am

re: #66 Killgore Trout

OT: Gird your loins…..

The week ahead: Investors gear up for a deluge of weak earnings and the biggest plunge in GDP in 26 years.

We pulled out of it 26 years ago, and we’ll pull out of it again.

191 rawmuse  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:45:19am

I deem myself out of here for some exercise. Later, Lizards!

192 notutopia  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:45:26am

{realwest} my heartfelt sorrow and condolences for the loss of your friend.

193 debutaunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:45:31am

re: #79 HoosierHoops

Little old lady! I missed the damn fruit cup this morning! I am so pissed off!

The cubed cantaloupe was perfectly ripe.

194 Anna  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:45:42am

Wonder if the Europeans will dump these guys in the same type camp they put illegal immigrants? The camps where various diseases run rampant and infect the guard staff.

Or mix them with regular prisoners?

Either may make the 60 feel like home.

Heck I bet after awhile they start to complain and demand return to Gitmo since things were better there.

195 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:46:43am

re: #166 MandyManners

Swim suit competition is on Miss America on TLC.

That is all.

I think this was brought to my attention about one minute past too late last night, however, it’s a new day, so “thank you very much.”

196 Anna  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:46:49am

re: #189 FurryOldGuyJeans

He seems determined to get us back in the world’s good graces via abject surrender doesn’t he? Will unicorns and rainbows protect us afterwards?

197 alegrias  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:47:21am

re: #182 Killian Bundy

Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban


Oh boy, more good news from Obamaland!

/geez, quit teasing us, just surrender to China already and get it over with

* * **
Pre-emptive Appeasement! Make preemptive appeasement, not war.

Ronald Reagan knew the deterrent value of space weapons (“Star Wars”) against all enemies foreign and domestic—we totally spooked & bankrupted the USSR which couldn’t keep up with us.

198 alegrias  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:48:34am

re: #191 rawmuse

I deem myself out of here for some exercise. Later, Lizards!

* * *
Good advice.

199 maddogg  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:48:37am

Innocent of what? They are imprisoned in Gitmo because they are nice guys?
/sure.

200 itellu3times  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:48:40am

re: #163 Killian Bundy

The market’s already priced in that the economy sucks and expects bad numbers. More bad news isn’t a surprise.

/DOW 7392 is The Alamo and, IMO, it’ll hold

Structural collapse, hard to make any call at all. I strongly suspect treasury-directed market manipulations supporting the Dow have been going on for some years now, but if so, will they continue under the Obamanation? Market still has apparently no control over naked short-sellers with billion-dollar purses, and any market tends to overshoot rational levels. And then, if any of these trillion-dollar rescue packages misfires, as they most certainly will, katie bar the door, but that would happen later in the Obamanation, and might result in spikes of inflation that would “raise” the apparent indices. We are in for one helluva ride all over the countryside, is my view.

201 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:49:09am

re: #196 Anna

He seems determined to get us back in the world’s good graces via abject surrender doesn’t he? Will unicorns and rainbows protect us afterwards?

I don’t give a tinker’s dam if we are liked by thugs and dictators. I want to be FEARED by the MOFOs.

202 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:49:24am

re: #193 debutaunt

The cubed cantaloupe was perfectly ripe.

I think Little old lady is gone..I love her..she is wonderful lizards..
Anyhoo..The Celtics are kicking ass today..Big Baby Davis is coming into his own..This team may be one for the ages..Watch out Lakers!

203 MarineGrunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:49:39am

Alcatraz ?

Pelosi: not in my back yard

204 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:50:12am

re: #201 FurryOldGuyJeans

I don’t give a tinker’s dam if we are liked by thugs and dictators. I want to be FEARED by the MOFOs.

First of all, thank you for using the expression “tinker’s dam” correctly.
Secondly, I completely agree with your sentiment!

205 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:50:21am

re: #178 jwb7605

16o up here, and about a half inch of snow.

I’m selfish, but it’s ok with me. I work two miles from where I live, city street to get to the theatre, and I rarely bop around town. Live right next to a supermarket, fast food joints etc.

So, I like this weather. Love it for a mater of fact.

206 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:51:07am

Ah well, I’m back - they wanted ME to go identify the body for their records!
I suggested they contact his widow at the funeral parlor for an ID and they thought that was a good idea!
I would say something about SOME policemen, but I’ll forgoe it for now.

207 jwb7605  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:51:14am

re: #205 Walter L. Newton

I’m selfish, but it’s ok with me. I work two miles from where I live, city street to get to the theatre, and I rarely bop around town. Live right next to a supermarket, fast food joints etc.

So, I like this weather. Love it for a mater of fact.

Speaking of which, how did your interview go? Any hope?

208 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:51:17am

re: #203 MarineGrunt

Alcatraz ?

Pelosi: not in my back yard

You aren’t surprised by that NIMBY, surely.

But camping them out at Bush’s Texas compound would be acceptable to the likes of her.

209 Cato the Elder  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:51:24am

re: #38 zombie

Considering that mass murderers in Europe frequently serve 15 years or less in prison (a study showed that the average “life sentence” in England was 10 years), even if the detainees get convicted, they’ll be let out for time served. Seriously.

And then given government benefits, a free apartment, and permission to bring 4 wives into the country.

And then, even if they were technically or truly “innocent” before, they’ll be free to put into practice the indoctrination they received from their brothers at Gitmo.

Presumably in that case they wouldn’t settle for burning a few cars.

210 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:52:07am

re: #206 realwest

Ah well, I’m back - they wanted ME to go identify the body for their records!
I suggested they contact his widow at the funeral parlor for an ID and they thought that was a good idea!
I would say something about SOME policemen, but I’ll forgoe it for now.

You poor guy—what a day. I’d bet that the police just wanting to take care of a technicality, but still…

211 maddogg  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:52:12am

re: #208 FurryOldGuyJeans

You aren’t surprised by that NIMBY, surely.

But camping them out at Bush’s Texas compound would be acceptable to the likes of her.

With Ted Nugent hunting next door, that might have possibilities.

212 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:52:28am

re: #64 lawhawk

And for those who think that the standard criminal justice system is up to the task, a convicted terrorist who had a 30 year sentence handed down in 1993, is now getting released February 19, 2009 - on good behavior. He had plotted to blow up a bunch of Israeli-related buildings in NYC.

What are the chances he goes back to his terror ways? 50/50? I fully expect to be hearing from him again.

It is indeed always an indication that one has engaged in “good behavior” when one has plotted to blow up buildings. (heavy sarcasm)

Idiots. (no sarcasm)

213 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:52:31am

re: #204 goddessoftheclassroom

First of all, thank you for using the expression “tinker’s dam” correctly.
Secondly, I completely agree with your sentiment!

You have NO idea of the number of pinheads who have bloviated I am wrong with my usage. ;)

214 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:52:33am

re: #206 realwest

Ah well, I’m back - they wanted ME to go identify the body for their records!
I suggested they contact his widow at the funeral parlor for an ID and they thought that was a good idea!
I would say something about SOME policemen, but I’ll forgoe it for now.

Probably just a shift change..Your name was in the notes…

215 VioletTiger  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:52:37am

re: #176 FurryOldGuyJeans

Better you than me. The weather services predicted snow here last night and I am pleased and relieved to find out this morning they were once again wrong. ;)

I love the fact that people who can’t tell you what the weather will be tomorrow are sure they know what it will be 100 years from now.

216 vxbush  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:53:09am

re: #210 goddessoftheclassroom

You poor guy—what a day. I’d bet that the police just wanting to take care of a technicality, but still…

Whoa, what happened to Realwest? I’m in late today after church. Just point me to the proper LGF threads and I’ll go look it up….

217 debutaunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:53:31am

re: #97 Occasional Reader

What’s the French term for “ticker-tape parade”?

DeGaullederful

218 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:53:32am

re: #213 FurryOldGuyJeans

You have NO idea of the number of pinheads who have bloviated I am wrong with my usage. ;)

They who think they know everything annoy those of us who do.

/

219 jaunte  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:53:38am

re: #203 MarineGrunt

North Slope, Alaska would be a good spot:
Image: barrow.jpg

220 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:54:40am

re: #215 VioletTiger

I love the fact that people who can’t tell you what the weather will be tomorrow are sure they know what it will be 100 years from now.

They use virtually the same flipping computer models to do both! THAT is why I KNOW AGW/ACC is such a scam.

221 jwb7605  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:54:54am

re: #206 realwest

Ah well, I’m back - they wanted ME to go identify the body for their records!
I suggested they contact his widow at the funeral parlor for an ID and they thought that was a good idea!
I would say something about SOME policemen, but I’ll forgoe it for now.

Realwest — I read your opening article this morning, and I’m ashamed to admit I couldn’t find anything to say.

I left the thread and started watching back to back Battle 360 series on the History Channel. (Battle of Leyte gulf is on at 2PM MST, I’m not going to miss it)

I hope the rest of the week treats you better.

222 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:55:15am

re: #216 vxbush

Whoa, what happened to Realwest? I’m in late today after church. Just point me to the proper LGF threads and I’ll go look it up….


It’s over on the overnight thread, I think. Realwest is ok—it’s been an emotionally wrenching day for him; an elderly neighbor died. There’s more to it, but that’s the gist.

223 jwb7605  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:55:30am

re: #216 vxbush

Whoa, what happened to Realwest? I’m in late today after church. Just point me to the proper LGF threads and I’ll go look it up….



here

224 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:55:45am

re: #215 VioletTiger

I love the fact that people who can’t tell you what the weather will be tomorrow are sure they know what it will be 100 years from now.

Or, they take 100 years or so recorded climate data out of millions of years of actual climate, and figure they can model what is going to happen.

225 CyanSnowHawk  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:55:51am

re: #208 FurryOldGuyJeans

You aren’t surprised by that NIMBY, surely.

But camping them out at Bush’s Texas compound would be acceptable to the likes of her.

I would trust the Texans to do it right. The government in California has not given me much confidence of late. If I were in a better financial position, this family of Hawks would be flying the coop as well.

226 rwmofo  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:56:23am

OK, OK. Had to check in on the Miss America contest since I missed it last night. I’m thinking that for some of these girls the curtains don’t match the carpet - well, unless they shave their heads.

227 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:57:24am

re: #182 Killian Bundy
Hi Killian - from your link:

Moments after Obama’s inauguration last week, the White House website was updated to include policy statements on a range of issues, including a pledge to restore U.S. leadership on space issues and seek a worldwide ban on weapons that interfere with military and commercial satellites.
It also promised to look at threats to U.S. satellites, contingency plans to keep information flowing from them, and what steps are needed to protect spacecraft against attack.

[emphasis added, realwest]
I’ve not been having a great day today, but I don’t see what’s wrong with that statement. It looks as if Obama is looking to protect our military and commercial satellites and our spacecraft.

228 vxbush  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:57:50am

re: #206 realwest

Ah well, I’m back - they wanted ME to go identify the body for their records!
I suggested they contact his widow at the funeral parlor for an ID and they thought that was a good idea!
I would say something about SOME policemen, but I’ll forgoe it for now.

Oh, real, I’m glad you were there for the widow, but what a terrible way to spend the day! I’m so sorry. Please tell me you’ll be able to relax for a while.

229 CyanSnowHawk  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:58:14am

re: #213 FurryOldGuyJeans

You have NO idea of the number of pinheads who have bloviated I am wrong with my usage. ;)

I had to look that one up. Never heard it before.

230 jwb7605  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:58:51am

re: #208 FurryOldGuyJeans

You aren’t surprised by that NIMBY, surely.

But camping them out at Bush’s Texas compound would be acceptable to the likes of her.

If Obama (or at least his crack research team) chooses a U.S. soil location for any of them — including the “innocent nonviolent” ones, the citizens of this country will make Rush Limbaugh actually look like a lovable fuzzball. By a greater than 52%-48% margin.

231 avanti  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:58:58am

re: #27 BatGuano

So, we just send them the not violent terrorists.

Only a small percentage of the detainees are dangerous terrorists. Many were enemy combatants or sympathizers for the Taliban, more the a few turned in for a bounty by rival tribes and we have no idea of the level of their guilt. The problem will be to sort out those that we can send home, to other countries and which to keep locked up for life.

232 VioletTiger  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:59:19am

Sorry for the OT, but I want to thank Furry Old Jeans Guy, Sharmuta, realwest, Capitalist Tool, Syrah and anybody else I missed for the great advice on getting rid of the Vundo malware. I cleaned up my system and my daughter’s and now things are just peachy. Ended up using the Malwarebytes antimalware—I used the free download and then bought the real deal. It took a couple of times running it, then getting the latest patches from Microsoft, but now the buggers are gone.

233 cyclosarin  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 10:59:47am

The one’s they are talking about would be the Chinese muslims who the Bush Administration acknowledged a long time ago were innocent, but refused to send them to China because the Chinese government will torture them (because they are separatists).

They did train with the Taliban and Al Qaeda, but everyone accepts they were not training for terrorists acts, only to learn how to fight the Chinese government.

Many nations were willing to take them but the Chinese have been putting some seriously intense diplomatic pressure on everyone who considers it.

It was also thought a few of the nations considering taking them told Bush ‘no’ so that they could store it up as diplomatic favor for Obama.

234 MarineGrunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:00:04am

re: #219 jaunte

Without the heat and electricity.

235 Wishing  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:00:06am

re: #206 realwest

Ah well, I’m back - they wanted ME to go identify the body for their records!
I suggested they contact his widow at the funeral parlor for an ID and they thought that was a good idea!
I would say something about SOME policemen, but I’ll forgoe it for now.

Am sorry for your loss, Real.
May you all be comforted.
Sorry for the yucky day, too.
May your week be better.

236 CyanSnowHawk  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:00:30am

re: #215 VioletTiger

I love the fact that people who can’t tell you what the weather will be tomorrow are sure they know what it will be 100 years from now.

Climate and weather are different things.

237 jaunte  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:00:38am

re: #234 MarineGrunt

Bicycle generators.

238 brookly red  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:01:04am

re: #227 realwest

Sorry about your day. I agree the statement appeares without fault, but I don’t think world wide bans are practical or enforcable. IMHO

239 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:01:07am

re: #225 CyanSnowHawk

I would trust the Texans to do it right. The government in California has not given me much confidence of late. If I were in a better financial position, this family of Hawks would be flying the coop as well.

I don’t doubt Texans would do it right, but this is all about NIMBY.

Pelosi has a firm idea that she wants Gitmo closed, but when it comes to where to send them, not a fucking clue of a hint of a solution.

I am seriously gob-smacked that VP Biden had a moment of lucidity when he said they would need to be sent back to their country of origin. Gonna be hard to follow through since the countries don’t want them.

240 Daisy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:01:15am

re: #32 zombie

“Deemed innocent”?!? By who? Is there some secret information that Europeans possess about the factual innocence of Guantanamo detainees?

Or is it, as I suspect, wishful thinking?

Maybe the logic goes like this: The USA is deemed guilty (of everything under the sun) by certain powers that be in Europe, etc. therefore, the terrorists, captured by the USA, are deemed innocent (no matter what the hell they’ve done).

I say, send them to France and let the French build plenty of fire-proof garages for their very small cars.

241 VioletTiger  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:01:54am

re: #206 realwest
Wow, so sorry. I missed this in the thread earlier.

242 Alone in NY  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:02:01am

they can have them. Soon to join France’s “disaffected youth”.

243 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:02:01am

Ah, thanks to you all for your support. These were two different cops and my name was at the top of their report for contact information after his widow who is, I believe at the funeral parlor with him now.

244 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:02:28am

re: #231 avanti

Only a small percentage of the detainees are dangerous terrorists. Many were enemy combatants or sympathizers for the Taliban, more the a few turned in for a bounty by rival tribes and we have no idea of the level of their guilt. The problem will be to sort out those that we can send home, to other countries and which to keep locked up for life.

Let’s put them in your city’s jail.

245 jwb7605  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:02:52am

re: #239 FurryOldGuyJeans

I don’t doubt Texans would do it right, but this is all about NIMBY.

Pelosi has a firm idea that she wants Gitmo closed, but when it comes to where to send them, not a fucking clue of a hint of a solution.

I am seriously gob-smacked that VP Biden had a moment of lucidity when he said they would need to be sent back to their country of origin. Gonna be hard to follow through since the countries don’t want them.

Biden had that one right.
Fly or float them back, release them, and walk away.
How the country of origin reacts would be instructive on a global scale.

246 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:03:45am

re: #227 realwest

It looks as if Obama is looking to protect our military and commercial satellites and our spacecraft.

We already do that.

/he wants to scrap our offensive capability

247 VioletTiger  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:04:23am

re: #236 CyanSnowHawk

Climate and weather are different things.

But not totally unrelated. People who flaunt the climate change mantra point to changes in the weather as evidence for its reality all the time.

248 alegrias  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:04:37am

re: #206 realwest

Ah well, I’m back - they wanted ME to go identify the body for their records!
I suggested they contact his widow at the funeral parlor for an ID and they thought that was a good idea!
I would say something about SOME policemen, but I’ll forgoe it for now.


* **

Perhaps that policeperson recognizes you as a person of authority whose word can be trusted, as I do, SIR! However old you are…I salute you.

249 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:05:10am

re: #232 VioletTiger

Sorry for the OT, but I want to thank Furry Old Jeans Guy, Sharmuta, realwest, Capitalist Tool, Syrah and anybody else I missed for the great advice on getting rid of the Vundo malware. I cleaned up my system and my daughter’s and now things are just peachy. Ended up using the Malwarebytes antimalware—I used the free download and then bought the real deal. It took a couple of times running it, then getting the latest patches from Microsoft, but now the buggers are gone.

Download Microsoft Defender.. It’s free..It’s powerful and it’s easy to run.
It’s a must have these days..
/No..I don’t work for Microsoft..

250 debutaunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:05:12am

re: #231 avanti

Only a small percentage of the detainees are dangerous terrorists. Many were enemy combatants or sympathizers for the Taliban, more the a few turned in for a bounty by rival tribes and we have no idea of the level of their guilt. The problem will be to sort out those that we can send home, to other countries and which to keep locked up for life.

Link? Any reference?

251 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:05:14am

re: #246 Killian Bundy

We already do that.

/he wants to scrap our offensive capability

Fugget offensive, he wants to scrap our capability, defensive as well as offensive.

The Best Defense is Always a Strong Offense” - I forget who said it, but it is so true.

252 Daisy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:05:19am

re: #231 avanti

Only a small percentage of the detainees are dangerous terrorists. Many were enemy combatants or sympathizers for the Taliban, more the a few turned in for a bounty by rival tribes and we have no idea of the level of their guilt. The problem will be to sort out those that we can send home, to other countries and which to keep locked up for life.

Gee damned whiz, why didn’t the country turn to you instead of placing all these unfortunate innocents into Gitmo?! Oh well, perhaps you’ll volunteer to bring them over to Camp France for the next phase of their big adventure.

253 Occasional Reader  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:05:48am

realwest, I am very sorry to hear of your friend’s passing.

254 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:06:18am

re: #238 brookly red
Ah, well I don’t know about world-wide bans being enforceable or not, I was just wondering what the fuss was about - Obama appears at least to be trying to protect our satellites and space craft (I assume that means the shuttle and space station) from anyone attacking ‘em.
Course it IS Obama, so I’m not real sure, that’s why I posted that.

255 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:06:45am

re: #202 HoosierHoops

I think Little old lady is gone..I love her..she is wonderful lizards..
Anyhoo..The Celtics are kicking ass today..Big Baby Davis is coming into his own..This team may be one for the ages..Watch out Lakers!

My Mavs are getting creamed! Again. Dumbest team in basketball, bar none.

256 monkeytime  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:07:10am

re: #253 Occasional Reader

realwest, I am very sorry to hear of your friend’s passing.

Realwest, I know it was tough for you but what a blessing for the now widow that you and your mom were there for her. It would have been horrible for her to have been there alone during all that.

257 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:07:31am

re: #224 reine.de.tout

Or, they take 100 years or so recorded climate data out of millions of years of actual climate, and figure they can model what is going to happen.

Or they make shit up.

The problem with Antarctica, though, is that has so few weather stations. So what the computer had been programmed to do, by a formula not yet revealed, was to estimate the data those missing weather stations would have come up with if they had existed. In other words, while confirming that the satellite data have indeed shown the Antarctic as cooling since 1979, the study relied ultimately on pure guesswork, to show that in the past 50 years the continent has warmed – by just one degree Fahrenheit.

258 Occasional Reader  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:07:32am

St. Louis Federal Reserve chart shows growth in money supply.

Wheeee!

Later.

259 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:07:56am

re: #246 Killian Bundy
“/he wants to scrap our offensive capability” well you certainly could be right about that, but that’s not what this particular statement says.

260 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:08:01am

re: #231 avanti

Gee, and here I thought that is what they were already doing at Gitmo, sorting out what was what and who was who.

Glad to know you are such more knowledgeable than the entire rest of the government.

261 Daisy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:08:24am

re: #206 realwest

That’s rough stuff to go through. Hope you can take as much time as you need to settle down and just breathe. Consolation? The family’s gratitude for your sane and loving presence.

262 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:08:49am

re: #231 avanti

Only a small percentage of the detainees are dangerous terrorists. Many were enemy combatants or sympathizers for the Taliban, more the a few turned in for a bounty by rival tribes and we have no idea of the level of their guilt. The problem will be to sort out those that we can send home, to other countries and which to keep locked up for life.

Where are you getting your information?

263 alegrias  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:09:08am

re: #251 FurryOldGuyJeans

Fugget offensive, he wants to scrap our capability, defensive as well as offensive.

The Best Defense is Always a Strong Offense” - I forget who said it, but it is so true.

* * *
Didn’t Mao’s little book have something apt to say about What the World Needs Now is Community Organizing, not War?

Make Collectivism, Not War!

264 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:09:23am

re: #248 alegrias
Why thank you! [Snaps salute back!].

265 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:09:47am

re: #262 astronmr20

Where are you getting your information?

If the same place as previously, outta his ass.

266 Bobblehead  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:09:57am

re: #249 HoosierHoops

Download Microsoft Defender.. It’s free..It’s powerful and it’s easy to run.
It’s a must have these days..
/No..I don’t work for Microsoft..

I’ve been using Defender since it was introduced. Everything you stated is correct.

267 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:10:35am

re: #207 jwb7605

Speaking of which, how did your interview go? Any hope?

Interview is not set up yet. They called me back (after 1 1/2 months) simply to make sure I was still available. They said possibly this week, maybe Tuesday.

I live just 3 miles from this company, so, I can be there in a jiffy if they call me.

268 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:10:46am

re: #249 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops - my ‘puter (VISTA) came equipped or loaded with Defender - is it really good, cause I already have Norton Internet Security?

269 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:11:05am

re: #231 avanti

They were victims of circumstance, as Curly would say. Could happen to anyone.

270 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:11:06am

re: #265 FurryOldGuyJeans

If the same place as previously, outta his ass.

Obvious troll is obvious.

271 alegrias  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:11:09am

re: #244 MandyManners

Let’s put them in your city’s jail.

* * *
Heck, let’s put the GITMO terrorists on home-arrest.

Like Evil Dr. Sami Al Arian, whose daughter Laila the Al Jazeera producer, keeps her convicted jihadist father locked in her house! (Here in Jihadist Northern Virginia) Honest! We’re safe, she promised.

272 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:11:32am

re: #266 Bobblehead

I’ve been using Defender since it was introduced. Everything you stated is correct.

MS did create the mess in the first place, so they do have a very intimate knowledge of what is needed to fix it.

That they have it for free surprises me no end.

273 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:11:45am

re: #270 astronmr20

Obvious troll is obvious.

I’m shaking with giggles!

274 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:11:50am

re: #253 Occasional Reader
Thanks O.R.

275 MarineGrunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:12:18am

re: #239 FurryOldGuyJeans

How about we send them back to the area they were capture, then redo the capture thing, wink, wink.

276 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:12:31am

re: #273 goddessoftheclassroom

I’m shaking with giggles!

Careful. My fiancee would be jealous.

277 alegrias  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:13:39am

re: #264 realwest

Why thank you! [Snaps salute back!].

* * **
You’re welcome.

Just to show you what a snappy salute can do—my elderly mother saw Pres. Obama salute on tv and was SO IMPRESSED!

(Trying not to burst her bubble that not all that salutes snappily is gold…she’s noticed “he’s promised a lot”)

278 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:13:44am

re: #276 astronmr20

Careful. My fiancee would be jealous.

Oh, I’m no threat, I promise! I just appreciate people who make me laugh.

279 monkeytime  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:13:45am

re: #275 MarineGrunt

How about we send them back to the area they were capture, then redo the capture thing, wink, wink.


Yea, send them back to the area of capture and then let them immigrate to France and Britian. Either way they end up there so who cares?

280 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:13:58am

re: #275 MarineGrunt

How about we send them back to the area they were capture, then redo the capture thing, wink, wink.

And this time actually follow the rules of the Geneva Conventions regarding un-uniformed combatants.

281 brookly red  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:14:18am

re: #253 Occasional Reader
I see no reason to fuss either, in fact I approve of protecting these assets… I only hope the the protection is active protection & not relying on the good faith of others. China for example has already successfully used an anti satellite missile & doubt that they would give up the ability to even if they did sign an agreement.

282 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:14:27am

re: #256 monkeytime
Thank you for that. It’s appreciated very much.

283 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:14:33am

re: #259 realwest

“/he wants to scrap our offensive capability” well you certainly could be right about that, but that’s not what this particular statement says.

From the first sentence …

President Barack Obama’s pledge to seek a worldwide ban on weapons in space

/why would we want to give up our ability to [offensively] destroy Chinese satellites?

284 VioletTiger  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:15:05am

re: #249 HoosierHoops

Download Microsoft Defender.. It’s free..It’s powerful and it’s easy to run.
It’s a must have these days..
/No..I don’t work for Microsoft..


Thanks, that is on my list. This was a serious mess on my system for almost a month. I don’t want togo through that again.

285 debutaunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:15:11am

re: #258 Occasional Reader

St. Louis Federal Reserve chart shows growth in money supply.

Wheeee!

Later.

Wheelbarrow futures.

286 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:15:28am

re: #283 Killian Bundy

/why would we want to give up our ability to [offensively] destroy Chinese satellites?

He wants a worldwide ban that only the US will follow.

287 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:15:29am

re: #255 The Shadow Do

My Mavs are getting creamed! Again. Dumbest team in basketball, bar none.

OMG.. Mike Wilboun just called the Mav’s Lame!
Hahahahaha
Pacers? oh..whoops..sorry…

288 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:15:37am

re: #257 wahabicorridor
Hi {wahabi} LOVED that second link (to the Telegraph)!

289 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:15:41am

re: #282 realwest

Thank you for that. It’s appreciated very much.

Hey real,


Be sure to take time out for yourself, brother. These things don’t just shake off. Have people around to talk to.. I know what that’s like.

290 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:15:43am

re: #285 debutaunt

Wheelbarrow futures.

I was looking at the handbaskets…

291 Bobblehead  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:16:23am

re: #272 FurryOldGuyJeans

MS did create the mess in the first place, so they do have a very intimate knowledge of what is needed to fix it.

That they have it for free surprises me no end.

I didn’t have any problems with it when I downloaded on my old puter. It came preloaded on my new laptop. Works quietly in the background. I like it.

292 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:16:32am

re: #284 VioletTiger

Thanks, that is on my list. This was a serious mess on my system for almost a month. I don’t want togo through that again.

+1 for defender. Finally MS developed an app that takes care of spyware/ malware. Works pretty damn well actually.

293 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:17:07am

re: #290 goddessoftheclassroom

I was looking at the handbaskets…

There are quite a number of old and nearly useless suitcases I have in storage I was thinking of getting rid of. Now I am not so sure about it.

294 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:18:12am

re: #291 Bobblehead

I didn’t have any problems with it when I downloaded on my old puter. It came preloaded on my new laptop. Works quietly in the background. I like it.

The mess I was talking about is the OS itself, not Defender. ;)

295 Bobblehead  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:19:21am

re: #294 FurryOldGuyJeans

The mess I was talking about is the OS itself, not Defender. ;)

I know what you meant. Just sayin Defender is an easy app to use. :)

296 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:19:23am

re: #287 HoosierHoops

OMG.. Mike Wilboun just called the Mav’s Lame!
Hahahahaha
Pacers? oh..whoops..sorry…

Ugh

297 brookly red  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:19:33am

re: #292 astronmr20

I am running McAfee (and hate it) if I turn on Defender will the clash?

298 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:19:40am

re: #261 Daisy Uh, Thanks Daisy but I screwed up - I urged the EMS to keep trying to bring him back, without knowing that the widow wanted him to go as per his wishes in a living will/P/A so, although my instincts may have been right, it sorta just unnecessarily prolonged things for a while.

299 Dustyvet  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:19:54am

re: #285 debutaunt

Wheelbarrow futures.

The U S Mint must be catching up, since they added a third shift in the printing plants.

300 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:19:55am

re: #255 The Shadow Do

I s Nowitski hanging out around the three point line again, watching helplessly? Serious question. I’ve seen him do it.

301 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:20:06am

re: #297 brookly red

I am running McAfee (and hate it) if I turn on Defender will the clash?

It shoudeln’t, no.

302 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:20:27am

re: #295 Bobblehead

I know what you meant. Just sayin Defender is an easy app to use. :)

Ok, another atypical MS thing….ease of use. ;)

303 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:20:29am

re: #286 FurryOldGuyJeans

He wants a worldwide ban that only the US will follow.

And now, micro satellites

For the past two years — so far as anyone knows — the US has had a pair of small undetectable satellites working in buddy pairs to inspect and possibly repair its expensive sensors in space.

/Obama says bad, very bad

304 Bobblehead  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:20:30am

re: #297 brookly red

I am running McAfee (and hate it) if I turn on Defender will the clash?

No. I have basic McAfee and it runs fine with Defender.

305 brookly red  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:20:37am

re: #301 astronmr20
thank you.

306 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:20:58am

re: #297 brookly red

I am running McAfee (and hate it) if I turn on Defender will the clash?

I haven’t had any problems running both on XP and Vista machines.

I like the McAfee cleaning tools.

307 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:21:27am

re: #298 realwest

Uh, Thanks Daisy but I screwed up - I urged the EMS to keep trying to bring him back, without knowing that the widow wanted him to go as per his wishes in a living will/P/A so, although my instincts may have been right, it sorta just unnecessarily prolonged things for a while.

You went with your instinct at the moment and were only trying to help.

308 Bobblehead  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:21:34am

re: #302 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ok, another atypical MS thing….ease of use. ;)

Shocking, isn’t it?

309 brookly red  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:21:54am

re: #304 Bobblehead
again, thank you.

310 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:23:08am

re: #308 Bobblehead

Shocking, isn’t it?

If they didn’t keep announcing things they will never deliver, it wouldn’t be so bad. Such as “Most Secure OS Ever”, or “Even Easier to Use”. ;)

311 Maximu§  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:23:13am

The Bush Administration screwed up here….these POS’s should have been given a quick trial and then hung in full view of the other prisoners. We’re the ones who got attacked on 9/11, not the EU.

If they go to the EU, they will be welcomed as “Hero’s” by local Muslims and will go back to their evil ways.

Mark my words.

312 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:23:23am

re: #306 OldLineTexan
Uh, if you have Norton Internet Security will it clash with Defender or do I have to turn off Norton first?

313 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:24:44am

re: #312 realwest

Uh, if you have Norton Internet Security will it clash with Defender or do I have to turn off Norton first?

I don’t have Norton any longer, but I doubt that you will have to do much more than allow the download (depending on your settings).

314 debutaunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:25:13am

re: #312 realwest

Uh, if you have Norton Internet Security will it clash with Defender or do I have to turn off Norton first?

I haven’t been able to turn Norton off.

315 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:25:58am

re: #311 Maximu§

The Bush Administration screwed up here….these POS’s should have been given a quick trial and then hung in full view of the other prisoners. We’re the ones who got attacked on 9/11, not the EU.

If they go to the EU, they will be welcomed as “Hero’s” by local Muslims and will go back to their evil ways.

Mark my words.

The remaining “detainees” are by and large the leaders, not the cannon-fodder types that have already been released. Releasing them to Europe will only hasten the Caliphate there and let them setup one huge and secure base of operations, with LOTS of modern and sophisticated technology, to launch attacks on us.

316 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:26:23am

Celts 74, Mavs 47.

317 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:26:28am

re: #314 debutaunt

I haven’t been able to turn Norton off.

I had a heck of a time removing Norton AV when I switched to McAfee. Had to resort to a tool the IT boys at work gave me.

BTW, I use McAfee because the ISP provides it and I’m cheap.

318 VioletTiger  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:26:48am

re: #298 realwest
You didn’t screw up. This is one of the toughest calls, ever. I was faced with it when my Mom passed and even though I had a copy of her decree in my hand, I almost went against it. Don’t beat yourself up over this.

319 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:27:09am

re: #287 HoosierHoops

OMG.. Mike Wilboun just called the Mav’s Lame!
Hahahahaha
Pacers? oh..whoops..sorry…

If you could line up the Mavs starting five ear hole to ear hole and shine a flashlight end to end you would see a clear beam of light with the projected reflection of a fluttering moth. Coach tried at first to introduce a little motion offense to unleash a some scoring/creativity. Two month of that failed experiment and its back to running the same old 3 set plays, each one ending with Kidd shooting an uncontested three, and why not? He ain’t gonna make it often enough to care. Howard, a true dope’s dope (and a doper) has transformed himself from a clean up man to a great shooter - just ask him.

Ugh, ugh, ugh

320 realwest  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:27:18am

Well y’all I gotta go - hope I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Have a great day!

321 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:27:29am

This is a critical moment for Israel in the Gaza situation:


Hamas proposes year-long truce.

I am starting to wonder if anyone- ANYONE in the world community understands the basic principles of war. Anyone? With an enemy like Hamas, you don’t all them to propose shit. It should be on Israel’s terms and Isreal’s terms alone- which should simply be “no mas Hamas.”

Even if Israel is feeling “merciful” in light of enormous world criticism, YOU DON’T ALLOW THESE ANIMALS TO DICTATE TERMS TO YOU.


FUCK this pisses me off.

322 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:27:49am

re: #314 debutaunt

I haven’t been able to turn Norton off.

I believe Defender will do that. MS has the ability of silently disabling software if there is a conflict between third-party and their software.

But I am no expert on XP or Vista, so don’t quote me. ;)

323 Ron Shaw  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:28:10am

…and remember the USof A needs to get over itself and be more like Europe…institutionalized, USA administration, EU envy floating effortlessly down the Mainstream Media.

Don’t start party preps just yet since…”France is pushing for European Union countries to take 60 of the detainees…” France…always France!

324 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:28:22am

re: #300 BatGuano

I s Nowitski hanging out around the three point line again, watching helplessly? Serious question. I’ve seen him do it.

Yup, pretty much

325 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:28:52am

re: #298 realwest

Uh, Thanks Daisy but I screwed up - I urged the EMS to keep trying to bring him back, without knowing that the widow wanted him to go as per his wishes in a living will/P/A so, although my instincts may have been right, it sorta just unnecessarily prolonged things for a while.

You didn’t know, so no screw up, really.

326 brookly red  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:30:13am

ok, I have McAfee & even though I have it set to scan at 3:00AM, it turns itself on any time it wants to and hijacks my computer for 20 minutes or so cause there is no off button… any ideas?

327 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:30:48am

re: #318 VioletTiger

You didn’t screw up. This is one of the toughest calls, ever. I was faced with it when my Mom passed and even though I had a copy of her decree in my hand, I almost went against it. Don’t beat yourself up over this.

RW had no knowledge of what the person wanted, so he did what he thought was best. I don’t see a screw up there.

328 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:31:31am

re: #326 brookly red

ok, I have McAfee & even though I have it set to scan at 3:00AM, it turns itself on any time it wants to and hijacks my computer for 20 minutes or so cause there is no off button… any ideas?

Turn off the automatic updates (not recommended).

Or is it automatically scanning at random?

I haven’t had that problem (yet!). Are there a load of cooties trying to get in?

329 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:31:51am

re: #327 FurryOldGuyJeans

RW had no knowledge of what the person wanted, so he did what he thought was best. I don’t see a screw up there.

For sure, but it’s still hard to shake events like that, especially when you know the widow.

330 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:32:41am

re: #328 OldLineTexan

Turn off the automatic updates (not recommended).

Or is it automatically scanning at random?

I haven’t had that problem (yet!). Are there a load of cooties trying to get in?

I’m going into computer snob mode for a second so flame me if you wish,

But I left all that crap behind when I switched to macs.

331 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:32:41am

re: #324 The Shadow Do

As Gomer Pyle would say, “Surprise, surprise”! I’ve followed the Mavs for 6-7 years now. I root for them but they always find a way to lose when the stakes are high.

332 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:32:58am

re: #323 Ron Shaw

…and remember the USof A needs to get over itself and be more like Europe…institutionalized, USA administration, EU envy floating effortlessly down the Mainstream Media.

Don’t start party preps just yet since…”France is pushing for European Union countries to take 60 of the detainees…” France…always France!

How much you want to be that France will take NONE while wanting the rest of the EU to take ‘em?

333 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:33:00am

re: #326 brookly red

ok, I have McAfee & even though I have it set to scan at 3:00AM, it turns itself on any time it wants to and hijacks my computer for 20 minutes or so cause there is no off button… any ideas?

/just ignore it, it scans in the background, doesn’t interfere with what you’re doing

334 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:33:23am

re: #101 rwmofo

Lotsa bad guys were “left” on the battlefield. Funny how the ACLU/MSM doesn’t really care about them.

rwmofo -

Dead Folks have no Constitutional Rights - Full Stop.

-S-

335 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:33:37am

re: #333 Killian Bundy

/just ignore it, it scans in the background, doesn’t interfere with what you’re doing

Except for eating processor clock time and ram for breakfast.

336 VioletTiger  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:33:49am

re: #327 FurryOldGuyJeans
Agree. I was just pointing out that it is a tough call either way.

337 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:33:55am

re: #332 FurryOldGuyJeans

How much you want to bet that France will take NONE while wanting the rest of the EU to take ‘em?

PIMF!

338 esch  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:34:10am

re: #226 rwmofo

OK, OK. Had to check in on the Miss America contest since I missed it last night. I’m thinking that for some of these girls the curtains don’t match the carpet - well, unless they shave their heads.

LMAO

339 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:34:47am

re: #332 FurryOldGuyJeans

How much you want to be that France will take NONE while wanting the rest of the EU to take ‘em?

France already has plenty of their own.

340 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:34:49am

re: #329 astronmr20

re: #336 VioletTiger

Not saying it wasn’t a tough call, I know it was. :)

341 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:35:46am

re: #335 astronmr20

Except for eating processor clock time and ram for breakfast.

/not a problem on my box, I stocked up on those things

342 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:35:58am

re: #339 astronmr20

France already has plenty of their own.

I seriously doubt that France would want any of the remaining “detainees”. They are the really bad MOFOs.

343 Ron Shaw  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:36:15am

Don’t start party preps just yet since…”France is pushing for European Union countries to take 60 of the detainees…” France…always France!

Here’s an idea:

Why not join the EU, then we can volunteer to keep them all where they now reside behind bars at Gitmo? This might make the whole world happy, but surely the Dems, Soros and like ilk, Europe, our enemies and our spanking new President will be…no more USA to hate!

344 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:36:54am

re: #331 BatGuano

As Gomer Pyle would say, “Surprise, surprise”! I’ve followed the Mavs for 6-7 years now. I root for them but they always find a way to lose when the stakes are high.

Lately they are ready to lose any old time

345 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:37:44am

re: #344 The Shadow Do

Lately they are ready to lose any old time

Sounds like any team from Seattle, all the time.

346 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:38:09am

re: #330 astronmr20

I’m going into computer snob mode for a second so flame me if you wish,

But I left all that crap behind when I switched to macs.

I had a Mac in 1984, so I really don’t give a fig one way or the other. Blew a power supply in under 30 days, so so much for MY first impression of superior Apple quality.

I paid the overprice for a PowerMac when they came out and I realized that it’s all Chinese products.

Then I went to work for a major PC manufacturer. I don’t believe in biting the hand that feeds me, and I have no problems buying my products, LOL.

If Apple ever develops an installed base of sufficient size, some hacker somewhere will give them cooties. No OS is perfect.

I will give them (Apple) props for having the ‘nads to abandon backwards-compatibility after System 6.0 and gig all their hardware owners. Many Windows problems are based on having to be somewhat compatible with ancient DOS ideas.

347 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:38:36am

re: #341 Killian Bundy

/not a problem on my box, I stocked up on those things

Sure, but most people don’t modify their off-the-shelf computers. It doesn’t matter how much ram or processor one has- you shouldn’t want something unnecessarily eating up your processor time.

348 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:40:48am

re: #326 brookly red

even though I have it set to scan at 3:00AM, it turns itself on any time it wants to and hijacks my computer for 20 minutes or so

Is your computer turned on at 3:00 a.m.?

/if not the previously scheduled scan will start running the next time you boot up

349 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:42:20am

re: #346 OldLineTexan

When a worked for a major computer retail store back in the late 90’s, I remember more than once having Microsoft employees walk in with company credit cards and buy thousands of dollars of Mac stuff.

The Lesbian couple was a real hoot. They bought $37,000+, and I got one hefty commission since I pointed out where to find what they were looking for. The rest of the sales staff didn’t want to have a thing to do with ‘em.

350 [deleted]  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:42:47am
351 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:43:22am

re: #346 OldLineTexan

Indeed.

I don’t blame Microsoft, because much of how they develop has to follow legacy for a myriad of reasons. Unfortunately though it has led to the worst OS’s on the planet, and users have gotten used to computers taking up more time than they should save.

People have been saying that about OSX since it came out, that eventually when it reaches a certain market share it will be virus time, but I’ve been on OSX since the beginning, and it only gets faster. With no virus trouble… and I have 3 macs with thousands and thousands of hours connected to the web.

People have gotten used to MS, and used to dealing with huge OS trouble. Once I switched, my tolerance for OS trouble has vanished, so I can get pretty frustrated constantly repairing the PC’s at work.

352 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:43:37am

re: #348 Killian Bundy

Is your computer turned on at 3:00 a.m.?

/if not the previously scheduled scan will start running the next time you boot up

I never turn mine off except for very occasional quick powerdowns/powerups and changing parts.; less stressful to the hardware.

353 oronpam  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:44:14am

Personally, I think any senator or representative supporting closing G’tmo should take a ratable share of the prisoners to their district. President O is “preaching” responsibility, so let his supporters step to the plate and take some.

354 baconeatingkaffir  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:46:13am

Yes.. its a great idea! (NOT!) Lets let the jihadis have asylum throughout the Western World.That way we can save carbon credits on their travel to do terrorist attacks against the West! I’m sure the Gitmo released guy who blew himself up in Afghanistan and the other douchebags who rejoined AlQaeda were deemed innocent too. After hearing how many iranians,Saudis,and other nationalities my brother and other troops have killed and captured in Iraq and Afghanistan, the only ones I “deem releasable” are the ones already taking a dirtnap.
Maybe we should put them in San Quentin or that Sheriff in Arizon’s prison system’s general population. I’m sure waterboarding, panties on the head, and loud music would be paradise compared to facing gang-bangers, murderers, and racists everyday. Then all of them could become “72 Virgins” to Bubba and his friends.

355 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:46:33am

re: #351 astronmr20

My mother, how uses her computer for email and nothing else, has MUCH more problems with her PC than I do. And I use mine a LOT, and for a myriad of things.

Even switching her from 98SE to XP only marginally reduced the problems she has. I swear the woman is cursed. ;)

356 oronpam  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:49:33am

Think I would rather have U.S. authorities in charge of these enemy combatants than anybody in Europe……they’ll be out on the street in no time over there.

357 astronmr20  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:49:51am

re: #355 FurryOldGuyJeans

My mother, how uses her computer for email and nothing else, has MUCH more problems with her PC than I do. And I use mine a LOT, and for a myriad of things.

Even switching her from 98SE to XP only marginally reduced the problems she has. I swear the woman is cursed. ;)

Some people have a special knack. There are a few like that in the office. I’m sort of the default IT person, since I’m in operations and live near our financial office. I do swear sometimes that as soon as I leave, these folks are throwing their PC’s down the stairs or something.

358 Ron Shaw  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:50:44am

re: #332 FurryOldGuyJeans

How much you want to be that France will take NONE while wanting the rest of the EU to take ‘em?

History has shown betting on France for anything is a losing proposition. I wouldn’t entertain the bet for France taking 1 of the 60.
I’d suggest that they took them all and ship them immediately to the French Foreign Legion for indoctrination or to that French penal island used in the McQueen and Hoffman movie, Papillon…ooops, nevermind, Papillon escaped from there, didn’t he.

359 claspur  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:52:07am

Notice France is only interested:
Only 350, of the least dangerous?

They’re all least dangerous, can’t you just take them all, and keep them from launching another Carbeque like last Summer over there?

360 AuntAcid  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:53:21am

re: #353 oronpam

Personally, I think any senator or representative supporting closing G’tmo should take a ratable share of the prisoners to their district. President O is “preaching” responsibility, so let his supporters step to the plate and take some.


I think the Gitmo alum would find a few fellow travelers in the husky, brawling city of small brains and big shoulders.

361 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:00:11pm

re: #353 oronpam

Personally, I think any senator or representative supporting closing G’tmo should take a ratable share of the prisoners to their district. President O is “preaching” responsibility, so let his supporters step to the plate and take some.

That would be like releasing a hard-core communist, too many people would be willing believers of the jihadi movement.

362 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:03:44pm

re: #357 astronmr20

Some people have a special knack. There are a few like that in the office. I’m sort of the default IT person, since I’m in operations and live near our financial office. I do swear sometimes that as soon as I leave, these folks are throwing their PC’s down the stairs or something.

Ah, now we’re talking my specialty!

363 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:03:58pm

re: #347 astronmr20

Sure, but most people don’t modify their off-the-shelf computers. It doesn’t matter how much ram or processor one has- you shouldn’t want something unnecessarily eating up your processor time.

astronmr20 -

For all ‘y’all VISTA OS’ers out there, there’s always “Ready Boost” - the “Afterburner” as close as a compatible usb flash drive. Keep it in mind, it works.

-S-

364 debutaunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:04:50pm

re: #317 OldLineTexan

I had a heck of a time removing Norton AV when I switched to McAfee. Had to resort to a tool the IT boys at work gave me.

BTW, I use McAfee because the ISP provides it and I’m cheap.

Norton will expire in two weeks - I’m hoping to install AVG then.

365 Dustyvet  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:05:44pm

re: #356 oronpam

Think I would rather have U.S. authorities in charge of these enemy combatants than anybody in Europe……they’ll be out on the street in no time over there.

And with O in office, that would also apply here.

366 Dustyvet  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:06:55pm

re: #365 Dustyvet

And with O in office, that would also apply here.

Correction not would…WILL!

367 Ron Shaw  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:06:55pm

re: #359 claspur

Notice France is only interested:
Only 350, of the least dangerous?

They’re all least dangerous, can’t you just take them all, and keep them from launching another Carbeque like last Summer over there?

French Carbeque? LMAO That’s priceless! Would that be a sweet and savory style like Texas BBQ or more mustardy-rub and spicey sauce like from the Carolinas?

368 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:07:52pm

I’m on Senator Inhofe’s email list. This just in:

INHOFE-BOREN-FALLIN-COLE -SULLIVAN -LUCAS SAY NO TO TERRORISTS COMING TO OKLAHOMA

Senator Jim Inhofe, a Senior Member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Rep. Dan Boren (D-Okla.), a Member of the House Armed Services Committee, Rep. Mary Fallin (R-Okla.), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), and Rep John Sullivan (R-Okla.) joined together on Friday in a united front to express outrage at President Obama’s decision to shut down Guantanamo Bay, possibly leading to terrorists coming to Oklahoma.

Senator Inhofe: “President Obama’s decision to shut down Guantanamo Bay could have a devastating impact on our national security and is simply unacceptable. Through my position on the Senate Armed Services Committee, I will lead the fight in the Senate to prevent these terrorists from coming to my state or any state on American soil. My constituents in Oklahoma deserve to feel safe, and we will not feel safe with some of the most dangerous terrorists in the world - men who would kill thousands for an extremist ideology - on our soil. I will fight this decision, and Oklahomans will not be subject to this type of insecurity. I will work hand and hand with the rest of the Oklahoma delegation, and the other 93 Members of the Senate who in 2007 resolved that detainees housed at Guantanamo should not be released into American society, nor should they be transferred stateside into facilities in American communities and neighborhoods.”

369 debutaunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:10:07pm

re: #322 FurryOldGuyJeans

I believe Defender will do that. MS has the ability of silently disabling software if there is a conflict between third-party and their software.

But I am no expert on XP or Vista, so don’t quote me. ;)

Darn! My heart started to soar!

370 DEZes  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:10:14pm

re: #364 debutaunt

Norton will expire in two weeks - I’m hoping to install AVG then.


Norton is a resource hog that slows a system more than the bugs its supposed to keep out’
Its removal is a ridiculous pain in the rear or used to be. (Had to use the oem disk to remove)
AVG is a great free solution, but just for fun I am trying Windows Defender to see how it does as well.

371 Dustyvet  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:11:09pm

Gitmo jihadi released by US returned to al Qaeda to wage jihad

372 avanti  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:11:51pm

re: #231 avanti

Only a small percentage of the detainees are dangerous terrorists. Many were enemy combatants or sympathizers for the Taliban, more the a few turned in for a bounty by rival tribes and we have no idea of the level of their guilt. The problem will be to sort out those that we can send home, to other countries and which to keep locked up for life.

What was unfactual about the detainees that deserved ding down ? The government says they are mostly enemy combatants. Here’s the list, lots of bad guys, Taliban and the like, but only a handful are 9-11 style terrorists. Only 10 have been charged to date.

list..

373 debutaunt  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:15:42pm

re: #349 FurryOldGuyJeans

When a worked for a major computer retail store back in the late 90’s, I remember more than once having Microsoft employees walk in with company credit cards and buy thousands of dollars of Mac stuff.

The Lesbian couple was a real hoot. They bought $37,000+, and I got one hefty commission since I pointed out where to find what they were looking for. The rest of the sales staff didn’t want to have a thing to do with ‘em.

Why, were they using the store computers to find lesbian porn?

374 brookly red  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:16:21pm

Blanket thanks to all for the McAfee advise… I’m working on it.

375 RubyTuesday  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:24:35pm

re: #368 wahabicorridor
Makes me proud to be an Okie! Thanks for the post!

376 BatGuano  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 12:49:56pm

re: #375 RubyTuesday

I am the son of dust bowl Okies and I’m proud, anyway. This just adds to it.

377 Maui Girl  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 1:39:31pm

re: #8 ploome hineni

microchip them and send them back to the battlefield

I had that exact same thought last week when this story first broke. I was daydreaming about all the prisoners being given some sleep aid in their soup and once they were all asleep they were implanted. Then my thoughts moved to my cat’s implant and the moment was lost!

378 soxfan4life  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 1:48:15pm

Didn’t read all the posts, and if I repeated someone else please forgive me, but at least they like us now and isn’t that what is really important. At least the MSM and Obamabots claim Europe liking us is a good thing.

379 Maui Girl  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 1:52:21pm

re: #77 rawmuse

People tend to think that the Great Depression hit all at once, on Black Friday. But it did not, it unfolded over a period of several years, in a series of setbacks, each one bigger than the last.

Precisely, and it lasted almost 11 years. And what kind of economic policies were being exercised during that time by Roosevelt? The same kind that our current administration and congress wants adopted asap
today.

380 Maui Girl  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 1:58:29pm

re: #368 wahabicorridor

Well, thank god not everybody in Congress is hoping this problem will just go away on its own.

381 Maui Girl  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 2:01:33pm

If I were president, I would implement a permanent solution to the Gitmo situation. It would involve a large flying machine, a remote control and a large body of water. Hmmmm. What’s that saying, It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission?

382 William  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 2:18:47pm

re: #113 Jim in Virginia

NIce chart but it only goes to 2006. What has the index done since then?

Down less than “an inch” with about 4 inches to go until home prices return to historical norms, where income (as opposed to exotic mortgages) can actually support home prices.

383 wanglese  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 2:24:13pm

If, in the future, the assholes released from Gitmo are found to be involved in acts of terrorism, can we hold Obama directly responsible, and lay any deaths at his doorstep?

I believe it’s highly probable, some of these “insurgents” will be trouble in the future.
Leaving crosses on the white house lawn might speak.

384 TheHistorian  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 3:02:28pm

How about moving the rest in with Barack, Michelle and the girls and John Murtha? After all, they are not dangerous and Murtha wants to put them in a minimum security prison.

385 uptight  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 3:12:13pm

The message from all of this is as simple as the solution.

The Message
Do not take Taliban or Al Qaeda prisoners of war. If you capture these people alive it is an embarrassment to the US. Since ignoring them on a battle field is also unfeasible, the message from Obama can only mean one thing: shoot the fuckers instead of capturing them.

The solution
Put all captured prisoners from Gitmo back where we found them in Afghanistan and then deal with them without detainment (see above).

386 Harry Tuttle  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 3:15:28pm

My favourite author is ther guy who wrote “pull tab to open”

387 Harry Tuttle  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 3:17:30pm

“Maybe if you ate more comfort food, you wouldn’t go around shooting people”

-Hurley

388 Daisy  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 5:56:33pm

re: #298 realwest

Hope you find my belated response. I’m stickin’ to my guns - you did the best you could, your instincts were good - and it’s my opinion his widow will be glad for your loving actions which you willingly performed w/out knowing the specific intention of the living will. You did good.

389 rabidfox  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 6:11:55pm

re: #32 zombie

“Deemed innocent”?!? By who? Is there some secret information that Europeans possess about the factual innocence of Guantanamo detainees?

Zombie, I suspect that is the caveat that will allow the EUs to sound oh so concerned but will allow them to weasel out of actually taking any.

390 jpkoch  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 6:51:09pm

I heard real estate prices are depressed in Berlin. Sixty terrorists and their concubine of cousins, not to mention their spawn could sure take liven things up.

391 marsl  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 2:27:56pm

As a European and a Portuguese, I can tell that we are in serious troubles. And we don’t have guns to defend ourselves.
And the worst thing is to know that Europe will not be going to sink alone. You guys are coming with us. You can thank Obama for that.

The only good thing in this is the fact that Islamics in general and Jihadis in particular are not very good with space science. So, in 7 millions years (more or less), the Sun will destroy the Earth and Islam.

For me, I thanks the Sun for that. It will do what our politicians are afraid to do and don’t let our military do to.

By the way, if America do not sink with Europe, anyone got an extra Green Card? I could use one….


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