Thursday Night Music: Regina Spektor, ‘Laughing With’
A great song from Regina Spektor’s Far.
A great song from Regina Spektor’s Far.
2 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:23:04pm |
3 | Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:24:26pm |
Charles, I can't believe you like Spektor, after all those times she tried to kill James Bond.
4 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:24:31pm |
Looks as though we haven't had our fill of Spektor.
7 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:25:51pm |
8 | ArmyWife Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:26:58pm |
re: #6 solomonpanting
Ought to be careful with such things as it may result in a shiner.
9 | Dar ul Harb Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:27:32pm |
11 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:28:00pm |
re: #8 ArmyWife
Ought to be careful with such things as it may result in a shiner.
Well, I am a bit buff.
12 | MJ Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:28:06pm |
Heard this last week on the radio here in Madison where she gave a concert.
Her voice reminds me of Joni Mitchell but with a Jewish sensibility.
14 | centaur Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:29:52pm |
This would sound great with a little upright bass, slow walking.
15 | Blackacre Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:29:53pm |
I heard this one on the radio for the first time just a few days ago. The lyrics are something else. Not the usual fare, for sure.
16 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:30:25pm |
A woman I knew in my youth (I was the callow youth, she was the wise, kind, experienced woman) passed away this week.
I was grateful to have known her.
I was grateful for her example of dealing with the hard hand fate had dealt her.
She was an example to me in my youth, and I was better for it.
17 | ArmyWife Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:30:46pm |
re: #11 solomonpanting
beginning to wax poetic now, aren't we?
18 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:30:48pm |
re: #14 centaur
This would sound great with a little upright bass, slow walking.
or a duet with Joe Walsh
20 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:32:01pm |
Lord, '72 Cadillacs are shorter than that piano.
Nice voice.
22 | mineral Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:33:20pm |
I posted a link to her song "Sampson" about a year ago here on LGF.
I felt foolish about it afterwards.
Now, two songs posted by Charles.
Redemption.
29 | ArmyWife Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:39:13pm |
Do they know there is music upstairs? Those in the lounge, I mean.
30 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:39:17pm |
32 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:40:46pm |
re: #29 ArmyWife
Do they know there is music upstairs? Those in the lounge, I mean.
I'm on a barrowed machine...very slow, otherwise I'd be bombing the thread with music
33 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:41:21pm |
re: #32 albusteve
I'm on a barrowed machine...very slow, otherwise I'd be bombing the thread with music
put the wheel back on
34 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:41:35pm |
35 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:42:51pm |
36 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:43:11pm |
38 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:44:07pm |
re: #22 mineral
I posted a link to her song "Sampson" about a year ago here on LGF.
I felt foolish about it afterwards.
Now, two songs posted by Charles.
Redemption.
Don't ever feel foolish about posting any song. We have eclectic tastes here.
40 | Silvergirl Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:44:38pm |
I bought her Far MP3 when you featured it the other night, and though I liked it from the first sample, I'm loving it more and more with each play.
41 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:45:09pm |
No one laughs at God when they're saying their goodbyes.
RIP Farrah.
43 | Noam Sayin' Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:45:27pm |
44 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:46:07pm |
This one is Mariah Carey, but this song of loss seems very appropriate today:
46 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:48:13pm |
re: #38 Racer X
Don't ever feel foolish about posting any song. We have eclectic tastes here.
which means half the music is awfull...hahaha!
funny no?
47 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:49:44pm |
re: #46 albusteve
which means half the music is awfull...hahaha!
funny no?
Heh. Yes that was funny. But true.
Kidding!
/
48 | Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:51:49pm |
Just heard this song a couple of days ago. It's great.
49 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:52:26pm |
Ssshhh, don't tell Killgore: Twin Brothers Indicted in Mail Bombing of Arizona Diversity Office
PHOENIX — Twin brothers have been indicted in a 2004 mail bombing that injured the diversity director of the Arizona city of Scottsville.Dennis and Daniel Mahon are charged with conspiracy to damage buildings and property by means of explosive, according to an indictment unsealed Thursday and filed June 16 in federal court.
The indictment says the brothers, who live in Illinois, intended to "promote racial discord" on behalf of the White Aryan Resistance.
The package detonated in Don Logan's hands on Feb. 26, 2004, in the city's Human Resources Complex. Logan oversaw diversity issues for city employees and citizens, including racial and sex discrimination. The blast injured Logan's hand and arm. A secretary also was injured, and both spent about a week in the hospital.
Authorities arrested the brothers in their Davis Junction, Illinois, home and say they had assault weapons, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and white supremacist material.
Authorities didn't know if the brothers had attorneys. There are no telephone numbers listed for Mahon in Davis Junction.
50 | big steve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:54:09pm |
I know this isn't a Michael Jackson thread but I am just catching up. During all those years of weirdness, I kept hoping that Michael would eventually pull a David Bowie and just wink once at us and tell us it was all an act. He never did. But whatever he became, man for some time he just had it......even today I cannot stop tapping my feet when "Billie Jean" comes on. I hope the world can just this once give the man some peace.
51 | Charles Johnson Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:55:01pm |
New Penn & Teller tonight on Showtime... starts at 7 pacific.
52 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:55:21pm |
re: #49 doppelganglander
Ssshhh, don't tell Killgore: Twin Brothers Indicted in Mail Bombing of Arizona Diversity Office
You have to wonder about this. How come the bombing happened in 2004 and they're only being indicted now? And the bomb came from Illinois? Why did they pick the poor diversity director of a town in Arizona?
53 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:55:42pm |
re: #51 Charles
New Penn & Teller tonight on Showtime... starts at 7 pacific.
I don't get Showtime. Grrrr.
54 | Nevergiveup Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:56:21pm |
re: #52 Dianna
You have to wonder about this. How come the bombing happened in 2004 and they're only being indicted now? And the bomb came from Illinois? Why did they pick the poor diversity director of a town in Arizona?
The weather was better?
/
55 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:56:49pm |
re: #49 doppelganglander
BTW, do you remember reading anything about this? I don't.
56 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:57:09pm |
re: #50 big steve
I know this isn't a Michael Jackson thread but I am just catching up. During all those years of weirdness, I kept hoping that Michael would eventually pull a David Bowie and just wink once at us and tell us it was all an act. He never did. But whatever he became, man for some time he just had it......even today I cannot stop tapping my feet when "Billie Jean" comes on. I hope the world can just this once give the man some peace.
the world did not deny him peace...he lived in a realm of his own making
57 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:57:43pm |
re: #52 Dianna
You have to wonder about this. How come the bombing happened in 2004 and they're only being indicted now? And the bomb came from Illinois? Why did they pick the poor diversity director of a town in Arizona?
The delay in the indictment doesn't really surprise me, as it can take time to build a good forensic case. The rest, who knows?
As to your #55 (yay Spy!), I don't recall hearing anything about it at the time, but it may have not made national news. Maybe someone in Arizona remembers.
58 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:57:43pm |
59 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:58:40pm |
re: #57 doppelganglander
I tend to remember stories about bombs. Bombs worry me.
60 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:59:26pm |
re: #49 doppelganglander
Ssshhh, don't tell Killgore: Twin Brothers Indicted in Mail Bombing of Arizona Diversity Office
I hate Illinois Nazis.
61 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:00:48pm |
62 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:01:06pm |
I'm reading Television Tropes about the Mad Oracle. I like this. It makes me think, though, about how interesting it would be if we still had the knack of impromptu battle poetry.
63 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:01:44pm |
re: #62 Dianna
I'm reading Television Tropes about the Mad Oracle. I like this. It makes me think, though, about how interesting it would be if we still had the knack of impromptu battle poetry.
We would if buzzsawmonkey got a commission.
64 | mineral Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:01:46pm |
Ok, I couldn't find it at youtube, but here is Regina Spektor's video of "Samson" that I posted a year ago or so.
I like it more than her new stuff. ;-)
65 | Irenicum Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:01:49pm |
re: #4 solomonpanting
Just wait till you see her in all her different wigs. Freaky!
66 | mineral Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:02:45pm |
67 | JPL17 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:02:46pm |
I've been listening to Regina Spektor's "Far" since its release on Tuesday, and liking it more and more with each listen. It's brilliant, my favorite album of the year so far, even better than her last (which was also wonderful). Happy to see people picking up on her. Check out "Folding Chair"...a brilliant song, right up there with "Laughing With"....
P.S. I wasn't paid to say any of this.
68 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:03:24pm |
Just to prove I haven't gone completely nuts, this is from the entry on the Mad Oracle:
The good news about this guy is that he can see the future. The bad news is that it turns out that seeing the future is not good for your mental health.
This is the bit that inspired my last sentence:
They tend to speak entirely in metaphor, riddles, and oblique poetry.
69 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:03:50pm |
re: #67 JPL17
I've been listening to Regina Spektor's "Far" since its release on Tuesday, and liking it more and more with each listen. It's brilliant, my favorite album of the year so far, even better than her last (which was also wonderful). Happy to see people picking up on her. Check out "Folding Chair"...a brilliant song, right up there with "Laughing With"....
P.S. I wasn't paid to say any of this.
support your favorite artists
70 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:04:37pm |
re: #63 doppelganglander
We would if buzzsawmonkey got a commission.
Well, it's true that the forms were pretty standard and known. Kennings and all that...Buzz would probably do brilliantly at it.
/Why, yes, I do read Icelandic Sagas. How did you know?
71 | DesertSage Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:05:36pm |
72 | Irenicum Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:05:37pm |
re: #56 albusteve
His abusive father bears a good deal of the responsibility for MJ's struggles.
73 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:06:06pm |
Excuse me, I need to go soothe the Male. The cat just ditched the screws he needed to put some piece of tech back together.
74 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:06:09pm |
re: #70 Dianna
Well, it's true that the forms were pretty standard and known. Kennings and all that...Buzz would probably do brilliantly at it.
/Why, yes, I do read Icelandic Sagas. How did you know?
I didn't, but I think it's kind of cool.
75 | Noam Sayin' Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:06:36pm |
76 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:07:23pm |
re: #72 Irenicum
His abusive father bears a good deal of the responsibility for MJ's struggles.
maybe...maybe bullshit...we'll never know now except second hand
77 | John Neverbend Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:08:07pm |
78 | DesertSage Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:08:46pm |
79 | Noam Sayin' Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:09:37pm |
80 | Irenicum Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:09:50pm |
re: #60 Dark_Falcon
Truly one of the greatest moments in movie history!
81 | ArmyWife Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:10:04pm |
I think I'm going to go fire up the jacuzzi tub. Y'all have a great night - see you manana.
82 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:11:19pm |
re: #77 John Neverbend
Charles,
Have you ever played music with Pat Metheny?
Three hours, three songs?
83 | DesertSage Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:12:31pm |
re: #79 Noam Sayin'
"Stole" is such a harsh word.
PBJ tried to get me a bottle of Mezcal last month...bless her little heart. :)
She couldn't find any though.
:(
84 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:12:31pm |
re: #79 Noam Sayin'
"Stole" is such a harsh word.
And inaccurate. As far as verbs, "drank" is more likely.
85 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:12:55pm |
re: #51 Charles
New Penn & Teller tonight on Showtime... starts at 7 pacific.
So far Penn has not yet said "And there's this asshole..."
I'm a little disappointed.
87 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:13:08pm |
Have had this artist pop up on Pandora a few times, can't say she is my cup of tea. Now on the other hand, there is an artist named Jem who I've start listening to that sounds great IMO.
88 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:13:28pm |
The cat is presently hanging out in the littlest room. I think this has something to do with the fact that three rubber feet and one screw are missing. And that my Male is swearing in German, Russian and what sounds like Arabic.
I understand the Russian; they all begin "mat-", which is a bad sign.
89 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:13:59pm |
or rather "And then there's this asshole"
/I have PIMFitis.
90 | Noam Sayin' Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:14:19pm |
With four picks in the first round, the Minnesota Timberwolves choose three point guards and a shooting guard. While Ricky Rubio is an excellent acquisition, they badly needed some height in the front court.
Either the new management has no idea what they're doing, or there's going to be a trade.
91 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:14:38pm |
92 | Noam Sayin' Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:15:08pm |
93 | Irenicum Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:15:19pm |
re: #76 albusteve
I'm not saying that MJ doesn't bear the responsibility for his own actions. He does. But knowing even a part of his background, I hafta think it would seriously mess with anybody's head. That makes me just a little more sympathetic to him.
94 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:15:45pm |
re: #88 Dianna
The cat is presently hanging out in the littlest room. I think this has something to do with the fact that three rubber feet and one screw are missing. And that my Male is swearing in German, Russian and what sounds like Arabic.
I understand the Russian; they all begin "mat-", which is a bad sign.
What part(s) of you are missing 3 rubber feet and a screw? Is this something you can get at the doctors office or a Home Depot, or is it proprietary parts that you need to order from, well, who ever?
95 | Nevergiveup Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:15:50pm |
re: #90 Noam Sayin'
With four picks in the first round, the Minnesota Timberwolves choose three point guards and a shooting guard. While Ricky Rubio is an excellent acquisition, they badly needed some height in the front court.
Either the new management has no idea what they're doing, or there's going to be a trade.
From ESPN:
No, the Timberwolves aren't running a three-PG offense. They're moving Lawson to Denver for a future first-round pick. He'll be a really good backup for Chauncey Billups. He flies up and down the floor and is as steady as they come.
96 | DesertSage Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:16:14pm |
re: #90 Noam Sayin'
With four picks in the first round, the Minnesota Timberwolves choose three point guards and a shooting guard. While Ricky Rubio is an excellent acquisition, they badly needed some height in the front court.
Either the new management has no idea what they're doing, or there's going to be a trade.
I've got three words for you.....World Champion Lakers!
97 | MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:16:22pm |
re: #88 Dianna
The cat is presently hanging out in the littlest room. I think this has something to do with the fact that three rubber feet and one screw are missing. And that my Male is swearing in German, Russian and what sounds like Arabic.
I understand the Russian; they all begin "mat-", which is a bad sign.
It means "mother"?
98 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:16:46pm |
100 | John Neverbend Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:16:55pm |
101 | Irenicum Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:17:58pm |
re: #81 ArmyWife
Yeah, rub it in dontcha! Here I am all sweaty in a house with no a/c, no hot water for 6 days (we got flooded last Friday), and the roofers just left and it's after 10pm. But other than that, I'm doing great!
102 | tradewind Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:19:07pm |
re: #53 Dianna
You can watch it on your computer at the sho site, full episode, for free. Minimal commercial interruptions, less actually than on the broadcast. In a day or two, it should also be available on FanCast and/or Hulu.com
103 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:19:13pm |
re: #93 Irenicum
I'm not saying that MJ doesn't bear the responsibility for his own actions. He does. But knowing even a part of his background, I hafta think it would seriously mess with anybody's head. That makes me just a little more sympathetic to him.
that's cool...I could care less what went on in his head...irrelevant in nmy world
104 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:19:25pm |
re: #94 Walter L. Newton
What part(s) of you are missing 3 rubber feet and a screw? Is this something you can get at the doctors office or a Home Depot, or is it proprietary parts that you need to order from, well, who ever?
Oh, it's the laptop cooler thingy. He could, of course, go buy them. What's irritating him is that he'd neatly laid them out on a nice, clean sheet of paper on the sofa table while he cleaned the dog fur out of the fans. Then the cat leapt up onto the sofa table (where he is forbidden to be, and normally never goes, since the back of the sectional is the kitty super highway and he doesn't need to use the table) and batted. Screws and rubber feet vanished into the fourth dimension!
105 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:19:58pm |
re: #97 MandyManners
It means "mother"?
Yes - all the really bad words in Russian begin with "mother."
Thus, the "mother oaths."
106 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:22:16pm |
re: #104 Dianna
Oh, it's the laptop cooler thingy. He could, of course, go buy them. What's irritating him is that he'd neatly laid them out on a nice, clean sheet of paper on the sofa table while he cleaned the dog fur out of the fans. Then the cat leapt up onto the sofa table (where he is forbidden to be, and normally never goes, since the back of the sectional is the kitty super highway and he doesn't need to use the table) and batted. Screws and rubber feet vanished into the fourth dimension!
LOL (tell the male I'm sorry)
107 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:22:32pm |
re: #100 John Neverbend
Eh?
I took my Male to a jazz concert once, and the comic who warmed up the audience joked about seeing Pat Metheny. "The show lasted three hours. Only three songs, but man! what a show!"
Considering that this actually made the entire audience (including me) laugh, I thought it was a known thing.
108 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:22:53pm |
109 | NelsFree Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:23:03pm |
Watched the video. My thoughts:
She could be Al Stewart's Daughter.
I hope that her dress, which was terrifically long in back, does not get caught in a door, causing the entire dress to rip off. That would be just awful.
Is the Piano painted or CGI?
Pretty, except when she pulled her head off.
I think she pulled the skirt of her dress over her head to disappear at the end. I'd like to have dated a girl who thought she could do that. Once.
/That's it.
110 | tradewind Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:23:21pm |
re: #51 Charles
Penn and Teller taking on orgasms?
No wonder they call it Bullshiite.
111 | Noam Sayin' Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:23:42pm |
112 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:27:55pm |
Is this thing on?
Do I need to say something even sillier than I have already?
113 | DesertSage Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:28:05pm |
re: #111 Noam Sayin'
(_%P%_)
What the heck is that?
┌∩┐(◕_◕)
Okay, I'm not really flipping you off....you know you're my friend. :)
114 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:28:14pm |
Here's some info on the dollars and cents cost to your electric bill from the proposed cap and trade bill and the likely public acceptance. The CBO pegs it as at $175/year by 2020.
115 | Irenicum Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:28:27pm |
re: #109 NelsFree
Yes, absolutely awful. Now, where is that door again?
118 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:31:23pm |
re: #112 Dianna
Is this thing on?
Do I need to say something even sillier than I have already?
Oh, was that meant to be silly? Seemed totally normal to me, but I have 3 cats.
119 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:31:25pm |
re: #114 avanti
Here's some info on the dollars and cents cost to your electric bill from the proposed cap and trade bill and the likely public acceptance. The CBO pegs it as at $175/year by 2020.
these are estimates...like the 8.5 ceiling on unemployment before the Turnaround!....get a grip
120 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:32:26pm |
re: #118 doppelganglander
Oh, was that meant to be silly? Seemed totally normal to me, but I have 3 cats.
I'm working on silly. I'm tired and a bit out of sorts. Silliness usually works well for me.
121 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:33:15pm |
re: #119 albusteve
these are estimates...like the 8.5 ceiling on unemployment before the Turnaround!....get a grip
Dude, you're harshing my mellow.
/or my attempt at silliness. Or something.
123 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:34:09pm |
re: #114 avanti
Here's some info on the dollars and cents cost to your electric bill from the proposed cap and trade bill and the likely public acceptance. The CBO pegs it as at $175/year by 2020.
That's still too much by my standards. I say we hold off on the bill and try less command-and-control methods.
124 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:34:10pm |
re: #120 Dianna
I'm working on silly. I'm tired and a bit out of sorts. Silliness usually works well for me.
Silly is good. The boys are still downstairs talking about military hardware, in which I have no expertise or interest.
125 | Noam Sayin' Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:34:10pm |
126 | Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:34:17pm |
127 | DesertSage Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:34:38pm |
re: #116 Noam Sayin'
I was mooning you.
Mooning me?
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128 | Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:34:41pm |
129 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:35:22pm |
re: #124 doppelganglander
Silly is good. The boys are still downstairs talking about military hardware, in which I have no expertise or interest.
That's OK, there's fixin' to be a fight. Or at least some cussin'.
130 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:35:23pm |
re: #121 Dianna
Dude, you're harshing my mellow.
/or my attempt at silliness. Or something.
mmm....I love harshmellows!
131 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:36:05pm |
re: #125 Noam Sayin'
Same as downtown, huh?
Two shows on Sunday, Skippy. Now hurry up, there's a line.
132 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:36:06pm |
re: #124 doppelganglander
Silly is good. The boys are still downstairs talking about military hardware, in which I have no expertise or interest.
Yeah, I can sort of keep up, but when my Male and his friend go on about it, the friend's wife pulls out soduku or sewing.
133 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:36:06pm |
re: #123 Dark_Falcon
That's still too much by my standards. I say we hold off on the bill and try less command-and-control methods.
When is someone going to say, we're in the middle of the worst recession in 25 years. Now is not the time to spend money on the elusive benefits of cap and trade, a complete overhaul of health care, or anything else of dubious value and enormous paycheck.
134 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:36:17pm |
135 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:36:25pm |
136 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:36:46pm |
re: #133 doppelganglander
When is someone going to say, we're in the middle of the worst recession in 25 years. Now is not the time to spend money on the elusive benefits of cap and trade, a complete overhaul of health care, or anything else of dubious value and enormous paycheck.
That should have been pricetag, not paycheck. I'm losing my English, which is weird because I'm a native speaker.
137 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:37:11pm |
re: #133 doppelganglander
When is someone going to say, we're in the middle of the worst recession in 25 years. Now is not the time to spend money on the elusive benefits of cap and trade, a complete overhaul of health care, or anything else of dubious value and enormous paycheck.
You just said it. :)
138 | Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:37:20pm |
Later lizards. Got to feed the doggies and then I'm out for the evening.
139 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:37:39pm |
140 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:38:23pm |
141 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:39:07pm |
re: #119 albusteve
these are estimates...like the 8.5 ceiling on unemployment before the Turnaround!....get a grip
I know, both side love the CBO estimates when they fit their agenda, not so much when it does not. Why we even fund a independent office to give Congress the data they ask for, just to ignore it is beyond me.
Last week it was the Dems saying CBO's estimate of heath care costs was high, and the GOP jumped on it, this week, the CBO is the bad guy because is lower then the the GOP likes. Why bother ?
142 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:39:09pm |
143 | Killian Bundy Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:39:13pm |
'High' wallabies accused of making crop circles after eating poppies in Tasmania
Poppy growners in the Australian state of Tasmania have long wondered about a strange phenomenon. The crop circles that have been known to, well, crop up in poppy fields have even inspired legends, the Mercury of Hobart, Tasmania, reports. Like crop circles elsewhere in the world, the poppy circles were mysterious, but no answers were forthcoming.
Mystery solved ... maybe.
Tasmania supplies about half of the world's legally-produced opium, which is made from poppies and used to make painkillers like morphine. But, of course, it's important to safeguard the plant, which is used not only in legal painkillers, but also to produce heroin.
Security for the poppy plants was the subject of discussion at a recent parliamentary hearing, which took an unexpected turn when Lara Giddings, attorney general of Tasmania, spoke of a strange discovery.
"The one interesting bit that I found recently in one of my briefs on the poppy industry was that we have a problem with wallabies entering poppy fields, getting as high as a kite and going around in circles," Giddings told those assembled. "Then they crash. We see crop circles in the poppy industry from wallabies that are high."
/little dudes!
144 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:39:13pm |
I always expected an energy bill to somehow see about producing more energy at less cost. Guess I'm not nuanced to understand how a regressive tax on those who can least afford it to back a plan with the minute possibility of maybe lowering the planet's temperature 3/4 of a degree in 50 years or so, assuming we even need to do that in the first place, makes any sense what so ever.
145 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:39:44pm |
re: #139 Dianna
I'm all for it!
Virtual drinks are on me. What will you have, young lady? Got a picture ID?
/
146 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:39:51pm |
re: #133 doppelganglander
When is someone going to say, we're in the middle of the worst recession in 25 years. Now is not the time to spend money on the elusive benefits of cap and trade, a complete overhaul of health care, or anything else of dubious value and enormous paycheck.
Keep repeating this.
147 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:40:06pm |
148 | quickjustice Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:40:22pm |
re: #114 avanti
That's completely off base. Here are the real numbers from the Wall Street Journal, which are much higher: [Link: online.wsj.com...]
"When the Heritage Foundation did its analysis of Waxman-Markey, it broadly compared the economy with and without the carbon tax. Under this more comprehensive scenario, it found Waxman-Markey would cost the economy $161 billion in 2020, which is $1,870 for a family of four. As the bill's restrictions kick in, that number rises to $6,800 for a family of four by 2035.
Note also that the CBO analysis is an average for the country as a whole. It doesn't take into account the fact that certain regions and populations will be more severely hit than others -- manufacturing states more than service states; coal producing states more than states that rely on hydro or natural gas. Low-income Americans, who devote more of their disposable income to energy, have more to lose than high-income families.
Even as Democrats have promised that this cap-and-trade legislation won't pinch wallets, behind the scenes they've acknowledged the energy price tsunami that is coming. During the brief few days in which the bill was debated in the House Energy Committee, Republicans offered three amendments: one to suspend the program if gas hit $5 a gallon; one to suspend the program if electricity prices rose 10% over 2009; and one to suspend the program if unemployment rates hit 15%. Democrats defeated all of them."
149 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:40:31pm |
re: #143 Killian Bundy
I dinged this up for Jimmah earlier, and it is still FUNNY.
teh pokit kittehs eated drugz! OH NOES!
150 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:40:44pm |
re: #133 doppelganglander
When is someone going to say, we're in the middle of the worst recession in 25 years. Now is not the time to spend money on the elusive benefits of cap and trade, a complete overhaul of health care, or anything else of dubious value and enormous paycheck.
I guess no one, since from what I have read, they even have republicans on board to vote yes on this.
Bottom line, every special interest in the country is standing in line waiting for their handout and right, left or otherwise is going to make sure they get it.
The boy in DC are only concerned with their jobs. I wrote 3 democratic congressmen in my state about this cap and trade. Each one sent a form email back saying they would not vote on anything that would cost Coloradans money.
Yea, right, when at the same time the budget office is throwing around figures about how much MORE it will cost each household.
Big disconnect there. Just get ready to bend over and get it up the ass again.
These folks are on a money bags express, next stop, their pockets, you pay, they play.
151 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:41:31pm |
re: #123 Dark_Falcon
That's still too much by my standards. I say we hold off on the bill and try less command-and-control methods.
I know libs that pay extra for "green" energy, but not me.
152 | Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:41:37pm |
re: #149 OldLineTexan
I dinged this up for Jimmah earlier, and it is still FUNNY.
teh pokit kittehs eated drugz! OH NOES!
I sent the link to Taranto. I hope it shows up in tomorrow's "BOTW - 'Everything is seemingly spinning out of control."
153 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:41:58pm |
re: #141 avanti
I know, both side love the CBO estimates when they fit their agenda, not so much when it does not. Why we even fund a independent office to give Congress the data they ask for, just to ignore it is beyond me.
Last week it was the Dems saying CBO's estimate of heath care costs was high, and the GOP jumped on it, this week, the CBO is the bad guy because is lower then the the GOP likes. Why bother ?
correct...just cut taxes and be done with it...why does BO resist tax cuts?....why does he distain history?
154 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:42:20pm |
re: #141 avanti
I know, both side love the CBO estimates when they fit their agenda, not so much when it does not. Why we even fund a independent office to give Congress the data they ask for, just to ignore it is beyond me.
Last week it was the Dems saying CBO's estimate of heath care costs was high, and the GOP jumped on it, this week, the CBO is the bad guy because is lower then the the GOP likes. Why bother ?
Does this mean anything to you. In the middle of the worst recession in the last 25 years, the government should not be developing ANY program that is going to TAKE money from the pockets of everyday ordinary people.
What's so hard about understanding that?
155 | Killian Bundy Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:42:41pm |
re: #144 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I always expected an energy bill to somehow see about producing more energy at less cost. Guess I'm not nuanced to understand how a regressive tax on those who can least afford it to back a plan with the minute possibility of maybe lowering the planet's temperature 3/4 of a degree in 50 years or so, assuming we even need to do that in the first place, makes any sense what so ever.
It's also a major jobs killer, totally stupid.
/not to mention that it's futile since China and India aren't part of it, we're just shooting our own economy in the head for no good reason whatsoever, corporations will just move to where the energy is cheaper
156 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:43:06pm |
re: #141 avanti
I think it is because one may or may not be correct and the other one cartoonishly absurd. You can pick...
157 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:44:50pm |
re: #148 quickjustice
Republicans offered three amendments: one to suspend the program if gas hit $5 a gallon; one to suspend the program if electricity prices rose 10% over 2009; and one to suspend the program if unemployment rates hit 15%. Democrats defeated all of them."
I would have voted for those amendments if they were not open ended. i.e. we might be have $5.00 gallon gas in a few years regardless, but some form of those amendments would appeal to me.
158 | alegrias Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:45:02pm |
re: #150 Walter L. Newton
* * * *
Hey hey hey, it's not just "boys in DC" mucking up the country.
California triumvirate of Pelosi (3rd in line to Pres. Obama), Senators Feinstein and the bitchy Senatrix Boxer, represent our biggest most bankrupt, cutting edge State of left wingers.
160 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:46:18pm |
re: #155 Killian Bundy
It's also a major jobs killer, totally stupid.
/not to mention that it's futile since China and India aren't part of it, we're just shooting our own economy in the head for no good reason whatsoever, corporations will just move to where the energy is cheaper
Same thing keeps happening in CA. They pass feel good legislation which punishes businesses so they leave the state, then we have to pay more for the services and goods since they come from NV and AZ now.
Idiots
161 | alegrias Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:46:39pm |
re: #151 avanti
I know libs that pay extra for "green" energy, but not me.
* * * *
We're all gonna pay for green, like the ol' USSR was "green"--WITHOUT ENERGY-- and too poor to power anything anyway.
162 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:46:56pm |
re: #157 avanti
I would have voted for those amendments if they were not open ended. i.e. we might be have $5.00 gallon gas in a few years regardless, but some form of those amendments would appeal to me.
we will have gas at 5$....why is that?
163 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:47:04pm |
re: #159 DesertSage
Does this look like a gun?
︻┳ テ=一
Yes, and your tax for that type of weapon is $45.00. :)
164 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:47:33pm |
165 | JPL17 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:04pm |
re: #153 albusteve
correct...just cut taxes and be done with it...why does BO resist tax cuts?....why does he distain history?
Because he is (or thinks he is)...God
166 | Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:07pm |
re: #162 albusteve
we will have gas at 5$....why is that?
Because it's Obama's plan. Quite explicitly so.
167 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:15pm |
Tax energy to feed the government to lower the global mean temperature? Is that the theory?
Sounds to me like if anything it would raise the mean temperature.
168 | OldScouter Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:22pm |
re: #159 DesertSage
Does this look like a gun?
︻┳ テ=一
Draw this in most public schools and you get suspended.
170 | alegrias Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:38pm |
re: #153 albusteve
correct...just cut taxes and be done with it...why does BO resist tax cuts?....why does he distain history?
* * * *
He stoops to conquer (change!) history, not learn anything from it!
171 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:48pm |
re: #160 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Same thing keeps happening in CA. They pass feel good legislation which punishes businesses so they leave the state, then we have to pay more for the services and goods since they come from NV and AZ now.
Idiots
All the good feeling is the money going into the pockets of special interest, big business, unfounded green programs, junk science, corrupt government departments, unions, and anyplace that money can be absorbed and vanish.
Oh, that doesn't include you, me or anyone else here.
172 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:49:10pm |
re: #162 albusteve
we will have gas at 5$....why is that?
Because no one in the US is willing to drill for the oil or set up refineries?
173 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:49:11pm |
re: #162 albusteve
we will have gas at 5$....why is that?
no domestic drilling
no offshore drilling
no domestic oil industry
174 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:49:30pm |
re: #169 albusteve
hey hey
ho ho
gasoline has got to go!
What do we want?
5 dollars of gasoline per gallon!
When do we want it?
Now!
////Repeat
/
175 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:49:50pm |
176 | Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:49:57pm |
re: #170 alegrias
* * * *
He stoops to conquer (change!) history, not learn anything from it!
Actually, he schtups to conquer.
And we're the ones getting schtupped.
177 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:50:17pm |
re: #162 albusteve
we will have gas at 5$....why is that?
Supply and demand, plus inflation, the third world is getting thirsty. I recall buying a dollars worth and getting a quarter tank.
178 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:50:19pm |
hey ho
hey he
hugging trees
feels good to me
179 | baier Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:50:38pm |
I saw Regina Spektor at the Jewish Music Festival a few years back. She sang Chelsea Hotel and Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen, and it was really amazing. Then she sang a Madonna song, because of the Kabbalah thing, I thought it was pretty funny...I was almost alone in that opinion. I'd never heard of her before that night, but I've been a fan ever since.
180 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:51:14pm |
re: #168 OldScouter
Draw this in most public schools and you get suspended.
Indeed. Zero Tolerance in action. Lousy for justice and creativity, good for avoiding and fighting lawsuits.
181 | DesertSage Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:51:35pm |
re: #175 HoosierHoops
LOL
Awesome!
Click my nic..
Hehe....it looks just like the one you're holding.
182 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:51:36pm |
re: #173 OldLineTexan
And, no new Nukes.
184 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:52:13pm |
re: #177 avanti
Supply and demand, plus inflation, the third world is getting thirsty. I recall buying a dollars worth and getting a quarter tank.
Gee, if only we had oil here in the US we could get to.
185 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:52:23pm |
re: #177 avanti
Supply and demand, plus inflation, the third world is getting thirsty. I recall buying a dollars worth and getting a quarter tank.
you dupe...haha!...how can you be so stupid?...do you honestly believe that?
186 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:52:37pm |
re: #182 Floral Giraffe
And, no new Nukes.
Sucks to be behind the Fwench in something so important.
We need nuke plants for the stinkin' electric cars!
187 | DesertSage Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:53:03pm |
188 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:53:29pm |
re: #171 Walter L. Newton
All the good feeling is the money going into the pockets of special interest, big business, unfounded green programs, junk science, corrupt government departments, unions, and anyplace that money can be absorbed and vanish.
Oh, that doesn't include you, me or anyone else here.
And that's the crap that California should be cutting to balance their budget, but nooooo, they threaten to lay off teachers and cut off medical care for the poor. I firmly believe their game is to panic the people into approving higher taxes for fear of hurting the chiiiiiillllllldrreeeenn. (You've got to say that last word like Nancy Pelosi.)
189 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:53:48pm |
Here's a nice story about Stevie Wonder, via The Corner:
My wife works at Children's Healthcare of Atlanta on the AFLAC Cancer Center. One of her patients is Leo, an 18-year-old kid with terminal cancer, and his dad told her early on that Leo is a huge Stevie Wonder fan.
Beth (the wife) works with Rock Against Cancer, and through their local volunteer and the Atlanta NBC station, she got in touch with Stevie's management ahead of the concert he played here last night. Leo and his family got to meet with Stevie before the show, and not only did Stevie walk out and dedicate the show to Leo, he brought the kid out onstage, sat him down on the piano bench next to him, and kept him there the entire show. We were up on the lawn (the Ampitheater at Encore Park in Alpharetta), and you could literally see the grin on the kid's face from way back there. They also had dinner together after the show.
...
There aren't ten big stars in the world who'd do all that. Hell, there might not even be two.[Link: wcollier.blogspot.com...]
190 | alegrias Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:53:51pm |
re: #176 Occasional Reader
Actually, he schtups to conquer.
And we're the ones getting schtupped.
* * * *
Ya, but will Pres. Obama ever
get tired,
tired of being admired?
(sung in Madeline Kahn's Marlene Dietrich voice)
191 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:54:13pm |
re: #183 Sharmuta
Hoops....
{Sharm} I tried about 10 times to get in.. The Blackberry isn't working for registration....
192 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:54:19pm |
re: #182 Floral Giraffe
And, no new Nukes.
That's my biggest disagreement with the POTUS. A moon landing type program to convert to nukes could solve our energy and CO2 issues in a few decades. No POTUS has done enough recently to push for nuke power.
193 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:54:54pm |
re: #185 albusteve
you dupe...haha!...how can you be so stupid?...do you honestly believe that?
Downding. He is old enough to remember those days, before Carter's hyperinflation. And his argument was reasonable, your response was nothing but an ad hominum attack.
194 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:55:09pm |
re: #189 jaunte
That is really special. Thanks for sharing.
195 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:55:17pm |
Does no one notice the changing rhetoric on this climate change legislation?
From global warming to climate change to "cleaning the air"?
Speaking in the Rose Garden at the White House, Obama said Washington must not miss the opportunity to work on cleaning the air...
196 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:55:39pm |
re: #188 doppelganglander
And that's the crap that California should be cutting to balance their budget, but nooooo, they threaten to lay off teachers and cut off medical care for the poor. I firmly believe their game is to panic the people into approving higher taxes for fear of hurting the chiiiiiillllllldrreeeenn. (You've got to say that last word like Nancy Pelosi.)
Its not working. I adjusted my witholdings so they dont get a dime from me (used to try for a small refund) and plan to move. I'm not alone.
197 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:55:45pm |
198 | Sharmuta Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:55:50pm |
re: #191 HoosierHoops
Try later with a real computer and we'll see you next time. {Hoops}
199 | Killian Bundy Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:55:54pm |
Waxman-Markey: Man-Made Disaster
Fiscal Policy: The House of Representatives is preparing to vote on an anti-stimulus package that in the name of saving the earth will destroy the American economy. Smoot-Hawley will seem like a speed bump.
Not since a misguided piece of legislation imposed tariffs that turned a recession into a depression has there been a piece of legislation as bad as Waxman-Markey.
The 1,000-plus-page American Clean Energy and Security Act (H.R. 2454) is being rushed to a vote by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi before anyone can seriously object to this economic suicide pact.
It's what Janet Napolitano, secretary of Homeland Security, might call a "man-caused disaster," a phrase she coined to replace the politically incorrect "terrorist attack." But no terrorist could ever dream of inflicting as much damage as this bill.
Its centerpiece is a "cap and trade" provision that has been rightfully derided as "cap and tax." It is in fact a tax on energy everywhere it is consumed on everything it is used to make or provide.
It is the largest tax increase in American history — a tax on all Americans — even the 95% that President Obama pledged would never see a tax increase.
. . .
President Obama has called on the U.S. to "lead by example" on global warming. During the campaign, he said: "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times . . . and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK."
Soon we may not be able to. Other countries can just sit back and watch us destroy ourselves. Where will you be when the lights go out?
/read the whole thing, weep, and pray they don't have the votes to pass this boondoggle tomorrow
200 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:56:11pm |
re: #184 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Gee, if only we had oil here in the US we could get to.
OK, someone was going to get to it anyway:
"Drill baby drill"
201 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:56:17pm |
re: #194 doppelganglander
These days, we need some good stories. :-)
202 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:56:20pm |
re: #195 solomonpanting
Does no one notice the changing rhetoric on this climate change legislation?
From global warming to climate change to "cleaning the air"?
Good catch. I mean, who's in favor of dirty air, right? Reminds of the gibberish about Bush's EPA and the arsenic levels.
204 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:58:10pm |
re: #199 Killian Bundy
Waxman-Markey: Man-Made Disaster
/read the whole thing, weep, and pray they don't have the votes to pass this boondoggle tomorrow
May it go down in flames, leaving Nancy Pelosi humiliated in front of the whole world.
205 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:58:13pm |
re: #195 solomonpanting
Does no one notice the changing rhetoric on this climate change legislation?
From global warming to climate change to "cleaning the air"?
Won't be long...
"Are you pro-clean air?"
//
206 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:58:14pm |
re: #198 Sharmuta
Try later with a real computer and we'll see you next time. {Hoops}
Story of my life.....
*wink*
I'll try in the morning....
207 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:58:18pm |
re: #199 Killian Bundy
I am so sick of watching my country run into the ground by the insane/mentally challenged/evil/all of the above.
208 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:58:35pm |
209 | alegrias Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:58:48pm |
re: #200 avanti
OK, someone was going to get to it anyway:
"Drill baby drill"
* * * *
Why should only Iranians have drilling & nukes?
Obama must really hate us, to give mullahs all the energy advantages.
211 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:59:27pm |
re: #205 Gus 802
Won't be long...
"Are you pro-clean air?"
//
Nope, I'm a walking talking C02 Factory!
212 | Desert Dog Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:00:33pm |
re: #211 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Nope, I'm a walking talking C02 Factory!
You should stop exhaling so much, you are killing Gaia, you bastard!
213 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:00:38pm |
We need your help to stop the cap-and-trade energy tax!
This is the key target list based on our most recent information. If your Congressman is on an undecided or leaning list below PLEASE click here and enter your zip code to get your representative's number and talking points on this issue.
[Link: www.afphq.org...]
214 | alegrias Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:00:39pm |
re: #207 doppelganglander
I am so sick of watching my country run into the ground by the insane/mentally challenged/evil/all of the above.
* * *
They're not crazy, their crazy like a fox. These left winger Administration people are geniuses, and we supposedly smart lizards are sitting here talking Michael Jackson & Hollywood centric entertainment death trivia!
215 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:00:54pm |
re: #195 solomonpanting
Does no one notice the changing rhetoric on this climate change legislation?
From global warming to climate change to "cleaning the air"?
Because they are trying to blur the line between air pollution and greenhouse gases. They are two different issues, even if they are both bad... but they are still two completely different issues. Trying to merge them into one is an attempt at ramming AGW-related legislation down our throats disguised as pollution control measures. They will run commercials showing polluted lakes and streams, with dead fish and the like and then beg you to call your congressperson and ask them to support HR XXX - Cap & Trade Bill (or whatever).
It's basically the same thing as the people who want to blur the line differentiating legal and illegal immigration, so that they can make people who are against illegal immigration appear to be against legal immigration as well and therefore racist.
216 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:01:04pm |
217 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:01:11pm |
218 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:01:14pm |
Buy salt.
It'll be more valuable than paper money after Sunshine gets through with us.
219 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:01:34pm |
re: #211 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Nope, I'm a walking talking C02 Factory!
You're killing the planet, raping Mother Nature.
And you know what that makes you?
220 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:01:48pm |
re: #193 Dark_Falcon
Downding. He is old enough to remember those days, before Carter's hyperinflation. And his argument was reasonable, your response was nothing but an ad hominum attack.
I'm an ad homist!
221 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:02:14pm |
re: #212 Desert Dog
You should stop exhaling so much, you are killing Gaia, you bastard!
I'll balance it out by taking a dump on my asshole vegan neighbor's lawn. Thats organic, right?
222 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:02:51pm |
re: #219 solomonpanting
You're killing the planet, raping Mother Nature.
And you know what that makes you?
Happy?
223 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:03:29pm |
Here she is, Carol Browner, Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change:
Carol M. Browner (born December 16, 1955) became Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change in the Obama Administration on January 22, 2009. Browner previously served as Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency during the Clinton Administration in the United States. She was the longest-serving administrator in the history of the agency, staying through both terms of the Clinton presidency. She was also a member of Socialist International , and was one of the leaders of that groups "Commission For a Sustainable World Society." That commission believes that wealthy countries should shrink their economies to address climate change.
Overall another latte leftist with million dollar a year salary.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Congratulations again to America for electing Obama into the White House. /
224 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:03:48pm |
re: #208 Dark_Falcon
Hello, Flyers. Who's your life going.
Good thanks, taking off early tomorrow to go camping. Campfire, beers and away from the surburban life for a day or two. And you?
225 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:04:06pm |
226 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:04:28pm |
Cap-and-Trade-War
Not content to tempt political fate by imposing huge carbon taxes on the American middle class, Democrats have added a provision which imposes stiff tariffs on our trading partners if they don’t adopt aggressive carbon restrictions of their own.
You heard correctly: progressives have authored a bill that earns the mortal enmity of domestic energy consumers and our most crucial trading partners at the same time. Economy-killing climate policies and a trade war — together at last!
[Link: planetgore.nationalreview.com...]
227 | alegrias Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:04:30pm |
re: #221 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I'll balance it out by taking a dump on my asshole vegan neighbor's lawn. Thats organic, right?
* * * *
Our condo is without airconditioning again tonight in very hot humid Washington DC weather.
You would not believe the whining about "no airconditioning?" from the greenies, lefties & socialists who all voted for Obama.
None were smart enough to go down to the beautiful pool where it's cool & lovely.
These leftists can dish it out but they can't take it.
228 | Desert Dog Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:04:36pm |
re: #218 SasquatchOnSteroids
Buy salt.
It'll be more valuable than paper money after Sunshine gets through with us.
I for one, am loading up the mason jars buried out back with wampum and shiny buttons. I figure I will be able to barter with the other neolithic citizens that are left once we destroy our economy and devolve into anarchy and survival of the fittest becomes the law of the land.
/
229 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:04:40pm |
re: #213 jaunte
We need your help to stop the cap-and-trade energy tax!
[Link: www.afphq.org...]
I did this yesterday, all I got back was two boilerplate emails, telling me how good this will be for the country and the world, these folks are on autopilot, they are going to vote the way they want, they are not listening to the public, really.
230 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:05:38pm |
re: #228 Desert Dog
I for one, am loading up the mason jars buried out back with wampum and shiny buttons. I figure I will be able to barter with the other neolithic citizens that are left once we destroy our economy and devolve into anarchy and survival of the fittest becomes the law of the land.
/
toilet paper is gonna be big....really big
231 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:06:44pm |
re: #221 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I'll balance it out by taking a dump on my asshole vegan neighbor's lawn. Thats organic, right?
We have two Greenpeace pollsters in downtown Golden every weekend, stopping people on the street. "Sir, do you care about the planet..."
I said "Do you?" and he said "Of course..." and I jumped right back in "Well, then hold your breath forever and do the planet a favor" and I walked on.
He doesn't bother me anymore.
232 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:07:06pm |
re: #226 jaunte
Democrats have added a provision which imposes stiff tariffs on our trading partners if they don’t adopt aggressive carbon restrictions of their own.
Suddenly, Bush doesn't seem all that bad for these "partners".
233 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:07:18pm |
It is absolutely pointless to argue with the Avanti's of this world. The thick fog of progressive ideology will not be parted by logic nor even experience. When the present apparently robust Studebaker micro economy, right alongside the general macro, collapses due to lack of buyers with throw away income, he will still be convinced that happy days are just around the corner. Why? Because he believes it to be so. Why? Because somebody said so. And he really hopes that it is true. This kind of faith will get you a long and arduous internship in hurt. But that is just how it is folks. This is why history repeats, and repeats, and repeats, and......
/Avanti, a slowed rise in unemployment does not make a case for future prosperity; it is a measure of unemployment/suffering! It is a notch on the misery scale and nothing more.
234 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:07:47pm |
re: #193 Dark_Falcon
Downding. He is old enough to remember those days, before Carter's hyperinflation. And his argument was reasonable, your response was nothing but an ad hominum attack.
You made me double check my memory. gas was in the 25-30 cent a gallon range when I started driving in 1958. BTW, that's a bit over $2.00/gallon in 2008 dollars.
235 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:08:10pm |
re: #224 Flyers1974
Good thanks, taking off early tomorrow to go camping. Campfire, beers and away from the surburban life for a day or two. And you?
No such luck. I'll be working at lest the next five days in a row and I worked today. I need to sell at least 22 phones in that time frame. I hope to do it, but it'll be brutal. Tomorrow I'll most likely be working all day.
236 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:08:23pm |
re: #229 Walter L. Newton
I'm afraid you're right. I was lurking last night when someone here kept posting their opinion that Nancy Pelosi was 'not really representative' of Democrats; that may be true of most of our representatives.
237 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:08:52pm |
Carol Browner, Administrator of the United States Environmental Protection Agency under President Bill Clinton, Member of Socialist International Commission for a Sustainable World Society
[Link: www.socialistinternational.org...]
Climate czar no less.
238 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:09:00pm |
re: #229 Walter L. Newton
I did this yesterday, all I got back was two boilerplate emails, telling me how good this will be for the country and the world, these folks are on autopilot, they are going to vote the way they want, they are not listening to the public, really.
and you PAY them to ignore you!....hahaha!...that's just hilarious!
239 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:09:02pm |
re: #227 alegrias
You would not believe the whining about "no airconditioning?" from the greenies, lefties & socialists who all voted for Obama.
Tell them they're helping to save the planet.
240 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:09:24pm |
re: #231 Walter L. Newton
We have two Greenpeace pollsters in downtown Golden every weekend, stopping people on the street. "Sir, do you care about the planet..."
I said "Do you?" and he said "Of course..." and I jumped right back in "Well, then hold your breath forever and do the planet a favor" and I walked on.
He doesn't bother me anymore.
I told the ones who hang out at our local market "No. I stay indoors." They keep giving me dirty looks but they dont bother annoying me with their drivel
241 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:09:49pm |
re: #230 albusteve
toilet paper is gonna be big....really big
I've made 4 copies of Stimulus 1 so I will have blank back pages for the town meeting records in Zone 6 Quadrant 4.
242 | livefreeor die Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:10:19pm |
re: #227 alegrias
* * * *
Our condo is without airconditioning again tonight in very hot humid Washington DC weather.You would not believe the whining about "no airconditioning?" from the greenies, lefties & socialists who all voted for Obama.
None were smart enough to go down to the beautiful pool where it's cool & lovely.
These leftists can dish it out but they can't take it.
Exactly. Even their supreme leader wants to change us peasants' health care but would want the best available if his family was very sick.
Along those lines, how much does it s--k to run the big infomercial on his health care plan the night before Michael Jackson dies? Almost no one watched it and now discussion of it has been preempted by Billie Jean videos.
243 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:10:32pm |
re: #236 jaunte
I'm afraid you're right. I was lurking last night when someone here kept posting their opinion that Nancy Pelosi was 'not really representative' of Democrats; that may be true of most of our representatives.
Oh, I'm not kidding in the least. I saw your post yesterday (or was that earlier today, it doesn't matter), and I did just what you suggested. I got replies in under an hour and both read like they were boiler plated from the same talking points, and the general tone was, it's a done deal and it's good for you.
244 | Dar ul Harb Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:10:57pm |
re: #240 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I told the ones who hang out at our local market "No. I stay indoors." They keep giving me dirty looks but they dont bother annoying me with their drivel
"I'm afraid of the big blue room."
245 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:11:11pm |
re: #189 jaunte
What a great story!
Thank you for posting it!
Sniff sniff, reaches for hankie....
246 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:11:13pm |
In other news, I had forgotten how annoying resin based models can be to work with.
247 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:12:51pm |
re: #204 Dark_Falcon
From your fingers, to the votes tomorrow......
248 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:12:52pm |
But we didn't call it a tax, you see.
Under Waxman-Markey, the economic pain would be severe, indeed. President Obama's own aides have admitted that it could cost hardworking Americans up to $2 trillion. The burden, moreover, would fall disproportionately on the poor, who spend a greater proportion of their income on energy - 26 percent compared to a median-income family that spends 4 percent of its earnings on energy. It would also affect the South and Midwest much more than the West Coast and Northeast. In fact, the effect would be a wealth transfer from the South and Midwest to the West Coast and Northeast.
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
249 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:13:44pm |
re: #246 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
In other news, I had forgotten how annoying resin based models can be to work with.
Are those better than the blow-up types?
250 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:14:08pm |
re: #246 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
In other news, I had forgotten how annoying resin based models can be to work with.
Warhammer Legos are the only way to go.
Plus, plastic Lego brand building blocks are made of oil! From Denmark (OK, China), and therefore Obama-Approved.
251 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:14:10pm |
re: #243 Walter L. Newton
Congressional staffers realize a lot of energy savings with prefabricated constituent response.
252 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:15:00pm |
re: #248 jaunte
But we didn't call it a tax, you see.
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
I wish I only spent 4% on energy.
253 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:15:01pm |
254 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:15:28pm |
re: #235 Dark_Falcon
No such luck. I'll be working at lest the next five days in a row and I worked today. I need to sell at least 22 phones in that time frame. I hope to do it, but it'll be brutal. Tomorrow I'll most likely be working all day.
Tough job, sales. That's what my father does, in his case real estate, got into it late in life at end of boom unfortunately. Not fun. Cell phones in your case?
255 | John Neverbend Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:16:08pm |
re: #107 Dianna
Considering that this actually made the entire audience (including me) laugh, I thought it was a known thing.
Some of his pieces are rather long, but I hadn't heard that joke before.
256 | Dar ul Harb Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:16:48pm |
re: #248 jaunte
In fact, the effect would be a wealth transfer from the South and Midwest to the West Coast and Northeast.
I'm sure that's just a happy side effect.
/
257 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:17:12pm |
Hoosier, see you're here. Been wondering, since you are a West Coast cat once removed, who is your team? Lakers? Kings, or have you adopted the Pacers?
What a lousy day for my beloved Mavs. Got a French point guard. Here is a shocker, he can't defend!
Oui, oui mon tres grande ami Americain de colour tres noir, tu vise mon tres blanc jock strap which I wave in submission? Cette basquette? Cette a tous mon ami!
258 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:17:13pm |
re: #237 Gus 802
[Link: www.socialistinternational.org...]
Climate czar no less.
And she has impeccable scientific credentials as a climate expert, being a lawyer...
///
259 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:17:40pm |
re: #251 jaunte
Congressional staffers realize a lot of energy savings with prefabricated constituent response.
No, it wasn't the "form" email that bothered me, it was the fact that the email basically implied it was a done deal and it was for the good of ME. Meaning, thanks for you input but no thanks.
260 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:17:53pm |
re: #254 Flyers1974
Tough job, sales. That's what my father does, in his case real estate, got into it late in life at end of boom unfortunately. Not fun. Cell phones in your case?
Yes. I started slow this month, and that's put my a bit behind the 8 ball. But I can meet my quotas, it just won't be much fun. The good news is that I'll have but the 3rd and 4th of July off, so after I meet them I'll have time for some fun.
261 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:18:05pm |
re: #258 lobo91
And she has impeccable scientific credentials as a climate expert, being a lawyer...
///
Yeah. You know that's a one-way street.
///Denier!
/
262 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:19:16pm |
re: #259 Walter L. Newton
No, it wasn't the "form" email that bothered me, it was the fact that the email basically implied it was a done deal and it was for the good of ME. Meaning, thanks for you input but no thanks.
From who? I gave up writing to DeGette. She's a robot liberal. Another millionaire however.
264 | dkorta Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:19:32pm |
This didn't seem appropriate for the Michael Jackson wake thread, but it's music and Michael Jackson related.
I never really cared for MJ's music or MJ as a performer. The exceptions were some of the cuts on Thriller, like Billy Jean.
In fact, I was surprised to now find out that the Jackson 5 are considered a Motown group, because I never considered them a Motown group. So I did some digging, and now know why.
In the early 70's Motown moved from Detroit to Los Angeles. In doing so, they left behind their signature rythm section - the Funk Brothers, and more specifically bassist extraodinaire James Jamerson. The Jackson 5 recorded out of LA, not Detroit, and did not have the signature Detroit sound. No Detroit sound, no Motown, at least in my mind.
Sadly, Jamerson moved to LA, but never caught on out there, in no small part because he was in the later stages of alcoholism. He died out there in the 80's of diseases related to alcoholism.
So in tribute to James Jamerson, who is largely unknown but who played on MOST of the the Detroit-based Motown hits
265 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:19:40pm |
re: #257 The Shadow Do
Hoosier, see you're here. Been wondering, since you are a West Coast cat once removed, who is your team? Lakers? Kings, or have you adopted the Pacers?
What a lousy day for my beloved Mavs. Got a French point guard. Here is a shocker, he can't defend!
Oui, oui mon tres grande ami Americain de colour tres noir, tu vise mon tres blanc jock strap which I wave in submission? Cette basquette? Cette a tous mon ami!
Grew up in Northern California..I am a golden State fan...And where ever I live I always root for the home team..I love Indy Sports...
266 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:20:22pm |
re: #262 Gus 802
From who? I gave up writing to DeGette. She's a robot liberal. Another millionaire however.
Michael Bennet and I can't find the other email.
267 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:20:26pm |
Answering criticism on why India was not committing itself to capping GHG (greenhouse gas) emissions, [the Indian prime minister's principal negotiator on climate change] Shyam Saran said: "To merely ward off pressure, we don't want to announce targets which we have no intention of achieving."
[Link: english.peopledaily.com.cn...]
268 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:21:40pm |
re: #259 Walter L. Newton
No, it wasn't the "form" email that bothered me, it was the fact that the email basically implied it was a done deal and it was for the good of ME. Meaning, thanks for you input but no thanks.
I e-mailed the Clinton White House once about something (I have no idea what) and got a form letter in the mail thanking me for my support.
That would have been okay, had my e-mail actually been supportive of their position (which it wasn't). Apparently, their system was set up to look for key words, and just assumed that anyone who wrote to them must agree.
269 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:21:45pm |
re: #267 jaunte
Answering criticism on why India was not committing itself to capping GHG (greenhouse gas) emissions, [the Indian prime minister's principal negotiator on climate change] Shyam Saran said: "To merely ward off pressure, we don't want to announce targets which we have no intention of achieving."
[Link: english.peopledaily.com.cn...]
I like his honesty.
271 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:22:11pm |
re: #267 jaunte
Answering criticism on why India was not committing itself to capping GHG (greenhouse gas) emissions, [the Indian prime minister's principal negotiator on climate change] Shyam Saran said: "To merely ward off pressure, we don't want to announce targets which we have no intention of achieving."
[Link: english.peopledaily.com.cn...]
I liked him better when he was with the Pharoahs.
/
272 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:22:15pm |
re: #266 Walter L. Newton
Michael Bennet and I can't find the other email.
Ah. The Hickenlooper clone that was superintendent of Denver Public Schools and replaced the other idiot, Ken Salazar.
Unelected but he'll probably win in the "New Colorado."
273 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:22:25pm |
Nothing quite like the feeling of slicing an X-acto blade into ones thumb
274 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:23:02pm |
re: #233 The Shadow Do
When the present apparently robust Studebaker micro economy, right alongside the general macro, collapses due to lack of buyers with throw away income, he will still be convinced that happy days are just around the corner. Why? Because he believes it to be so.
Actually, I have a backup plan. It's a stimulus program that buys Studebakers from me to transport Navy midshipmen to their ring dances, weddings and such. I should be able to get a few million, and no one will notice.
275 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:23:07pm |
re: #267 jaunte
Answering criticism on why India was not committing itself to capping GHG (greenhouse gas) emissions, [the Indian prime minister's principal negotiator on climate change] Shyam Saran said: "To merely ward off pressure, we don't want to announce targets which we have no intention of achieving."
[Link: english.peopledaily.com.cn...]
Oh man, thats gonna leave a mark.
276 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:23:15pm |
re: #265 HoosierHoops
Grew up in Northern California..I am a golden State fan...And where ever I live I always root for the home team..I love Indy Sports...
Good for you. I am sort of the same way. Hoosier native so I follow the progress of the Pacers. Spent 25 of my best years in Colorado so I follow the Nuggets. Last 10 years in Dallas. Geez I wish we could get some help for Dirk!
277 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:23:17pm |
re: #273 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Nothing quite like the feeling of slicing an X-acto blade into ones thumb
Did you get that magic moment where you know you've hosed yourself, but it hasn't hurt or bled yet?
278 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:23:40pm |
re: #272 Gus 802
Ah. The Hickenlooper clone that was superintendent of Denver Public Schools and replaced the other idiot, Ken Salazar.
Unelected but he'll probably win in the "New Colorado."
Is it too late for El Paso County to secede from the state?
279 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:23:56pm |
re: #273 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Nothing quite like the feeling of slicing an X-acto blade into ones thumb
I usually save that special feeling for holidays. Lucky stiff.
280 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:24:13pm |
re: #231 Walter L. Newton
Too funny! Mine were asking "do you care about baby seals?" I told him they were tasty when grilled! They don't bug me now!
282 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:25:06pm |
re: #276 The Shadow Do
Good for you. I am sort of the same way. Hoosier native so I follow the progress of the Pacers. Spent 25 of my best years in Colorado so I follow the Nuggets. Last 10 years in Dallas. Geez I wish we could get some help for Dirk!
Michigan native in New Mexico....I bleed maize and blue
283 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:25:15pm |
re: #278 lobo91
Is it too late for El Paso County to secede from the state?
Probably. And if they start a movement and find one (1) Ron Paul member in the team, forget about it!
;-)
/
284 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:25:29pm |
re: #277 OldLineTexan
Did you get that magic moment where you know you've hosed yourself, but it hasn't hurt or bled yet?
Yup, was shaving residue off a model piece and right down into the thumb pad. Definately a "Ah shit, OUCH" moment. Thank God for super glue and insta-set.
285 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:25:46pm |
This is also music-related. The owner of the copyright on the song "Kookaburra" is suing Men at Work, claiming that "Down Under" is a rip-off of his song. Specifically, he's complaining about the flute part in the bridge of the song. I call bullshit.
Besides, isn't that song 20 years old? Why didn't he notice sooner?
286 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:26:09pm |
re: #283 Gus 802
Probably. And if they start a movement and find one (1) Ron Paul member in the team, forget about it!
;-)
/
True, dat.
287 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:26:12pm |
re: #279 Walter L. Newton
I usually save that special feeling for holidays. Lucky stiff.
Decided to treat myself, fresh blade, so it was nice and sharp
288 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:26:27pm |
re: #273 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Nothing quite like the feeling of slicing an X-acto blade into ones thumb
Oh, there is. But I'm somewhat embarassed to elaborate.
289 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:26:53pm |
290 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:27:08pm |
Haven't seen this one yet - is this real?
Or photoshop?
291 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:27:11pm |
re: #277 OldLineTexan
Did you get that magic moment where you know you've hosed yourself, but it hasn't hurt or bled yet?
www.obamavoterwithbuyersremorse.com
292 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:27:18pm |
re: #288 solomonpanting
Oh, there is. But I'm somewhat embarassed to elaborate.
They took those "home bris" kits off the market, so ir's OK to let it out now.
/
293 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:27:26pm |
re: #260 Dark_Falcon
Nice. Are you into fireworks? I am, just hate fighting the masses to see them. I'd get my own, but I'm always afraid I'm going to set someone's tree (or worse) on fire.
294 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:27:36pm |
295 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:27:49pm |
296 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:28:06pm |
re: #285 doppelganglander
This is also music-related. The owner of the copyright on the song "Kookaburra" is suing Men at Work, claiming that "Down Under" is a rip-off of his song. Specifically, he's complaining about the flute part in the bridge of the song. I call bullshit.
[Video]
Besides, isn't that song 20 years old? Why didn't he notice sooner?
I've heard that song off and on, what the fuck is it about?
297 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:28:21pm |
re: #283 Gus 802
Probably. And if they start a movement and find one (1) Ron Paul member in the team, forget about it!
;-)
/
I just hope the Obama ATF doesn't decide to attack the Focus on the Family compound ala Waco. My house is too close to there...
298 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:28:21pm |
re: #290 Racer X
Haven't seen this one yet - is this real?
Or photoshop?
I hope that bag is full of grenades
299 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:28:33pm |
This Day in Rock History: The Beatles, All You Need is Love, World Satellite Broadcast to 26 Countries, 400 million people.
42 years ago today, June 25 1967. The Beatles premiere the song "All You Need Is Love" on a worldwide TV broadcast to an estimated 400 million people.
300 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:29:02pm |
re: #296 Walter L. Newton
I've heard that song off and on, what the fuck is it about?
Being drunk.
Or eating opium with wallabies.
301 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:29:10pm |
re: #276 The Shadow Do
Good for you. I am sort of the same way. Hoosier native so I follow the progress of the Pacers. Spent 25 of my best years in Colorado so I follow the Nuggets. Last 10 years in Dallas. Geez I wish we could get some help for Dirk!
LOL
Don't say it.....I can''t help it...Hoopster....
Can't I say anything about Cuban as an owner?
No! You can not!
Ok Ok...at least your ballers aren't shooting there way out of a strip joint at 3am downtown...
See.... you can say something positive....
But but..I Think they are....Shhhhh Don't say it hoopster....
Mavs...
*wink*
303 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:30:06pm |
re: #291 SasquatchOnSteroids
www.obamavoterwithbuyersremorse.com
I prefer [Link: www.Ilovesmykoolaid.com...]
304 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:30:17pm |
re: #295 OldLineTexan
Or the suspicion of 1. Or, if 1 is seen nearby!
Indeed. Just don't mention a word about socialists in the White House or be accused of having "ODS." ;)
305 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:30:18pm |
re: #299 Killgore Trout
This Day in Rock History: The Beatles, All You Need is Love, World Satellite Broadcast to 26 Countries, 400 million people.
Oh man, do I remember that. I am so far gone, I must go away now.
306 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:30:35pm |
re: #294 The Shadow Do
How about the Low Blows?
it's the only game in town...people love them...looks jv ball to me
307 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:31:13pm |
re: #290 Racer X
Haven't seen this one yet - is this real?
Or photoshop?
Photoshopped. AD is photoshopped onto the top of the vehicle. Look at the woman, she is casting a shadow in front of her (arm), so the sun is behind her, yet AD right arm, which is in front of him, should be casting a defined line against his grey jacket, somewhere in his right chest area. No shadow.
308 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:31:26pm |
re: #296 Walter L. Newton
I've heard that song off and on, what the fuck is it about?
Kookaburra or Down Under?
309 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:31:34pm |
310 | albusteve Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:31:38pm |
re: #299 Killgore Trout
This Day in Rock History: The Beatles, All You Need is Love, World Satellite Broadcast to 26 Countries, 400 million people.
tres kewl!.....thanks
311 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:31:39pm |
re: #301 HoosierHoops
LOL
Don't say it.....I can''t help it...Hoopster....
Can't I say anything about Cuban as an owner?
No! You can not!
Ok Ok...at least your ballers aren't shooting there way out of a strip joint at 3am downtown...
See.... you can say something positive....
But but..I Think they are....Shhhhh Don't say it hoopster....
Mavs...
*wink*
FUCKING OUCH!
312 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:31:43pm |
OK, I'm back from sitting out with my Male as he smoked a cigar.
Anything fun happen?
313 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:32:21pm |
re: #312 Dianna
OK, I'm back from sitting out with my Male as he smoked a cigar.
Anything fun happen?
NO, but now I want a cigar.
/dammit
314 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:32:25pm |
re: #303 avanti
I prefer [Link: www.Ilovesmykoolaid.com...]
Just remember, Barack Obama stole your new bicycle.
Refresh, forever and ever, for new reasons to seethe at Obama as necessary.
315 | Mich-again Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:32:36pm |
re: #277 OldLineTexan
Did you get that magic moment where you know you've hosed yourself, but it hasn't hurt or bled yet?
I do.
316 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:33:30pm |
re: #314 iceweasel
Just remember, Barack Obama stole your new bicycle.
Refresh, forever and ever, for new reasons to seethe at Obama as necessary.
BARACK OBAMA BLAMES YOU FOR GLOBAL WARMING
/that one's true
317 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:33:36pm |
re: #312 Dianna
My cat found some screws and little rubber feet.
318 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:33:37pm |
re: #307 Walter L. Newton
Photoshopped. AD is photoshopped onto the top of the vehicle. Look at the woman, she is casting a shadow in front of her (arm), so the sun is behind her, yet AD right arm, which is in front of him, should be casting a defined line against his grey jacket, somewhere in his right chest area. No shadow.
I thought it looked photoshopped because of the light, but I couldn't have put it as clearly.
319 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:33:53pm |
320 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:33:59pm |
re: #316 OldLineTexan
BARACK OBAMA BLAMES YOU FOR GLOBAL WARMING
/that one's true
Heh. I knew that one would get posted here!
321 | garden18 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:00pm |
Of course, I saw the name Spektor and I thought she is probably Jewish. Then I saw her on the video here and changed that probably to a virtually definite. Then, doing an Internet search, confirmed intuition. She comes from a Jewish family that migrated from Moscow. May she go on to be a source of pride to her people and may she speak out for the nation of Israel. I like the fact that she wears a dress and has a sense of personal modesty.
322 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:01pm |
Soooooooo bummed about Michael.
If Manilow dies... bury me under the piano.
Shit.
323 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:11pm |
re: #313 OldLineTexan
NO, but now I want a cigar.
/dammit
*Snicker*
Forgive me. I sometimes get petty.
324 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:13pm |
re: #272 Gus 802
Ah. The Hickenlooper clone that was superintendent of Denver Public Schools and replaced the other idiot, Ken Salazar.
Unelected but he'll probably win in the "New Colorado."
I was just in Colorado for the first time, beautiful state. Any idea why it turned "blue." I'd guess transplants from east coast, etc...
325 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:23pm |
re: #303 avanti
I prefer [Link: www.Ilovesmykoolaid.com...]
This link is broken. Where's my kool-aid, dammit.
326 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:36pm |
re: #317 jaunte
My cat found some screws and little rubber feet.
Did they fall out of the fourth dimension?!
327 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:43pm |
re: #320 iceweasel
Heh. I knew that one would get posted here!
Bitter clingy conservative white men are so damned predictable, eh?
328 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:56pm |
re: #307 Walter L. Newton
Thanks.
I figured no way she would be that suicidal, without taking him with her.
329 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:35:27pm |
re: #323 Dianna
*Snicker*
Forgive me. I sometimes get petty.
Hey, if you can't make the ladies swoon, make 'em laugh.
330 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:35:45pm |
re: #324 Flyers1974
I was just in Colorado for the first time, beautiful state. Any idea why it turned "blue." I'd guess transplants from east coast, etc...
Transplants. Used to have one of each in the Senate but not anymore. Now we have Bennet and Udal. The state house went blue as well.
331 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:35:46pm |
re: #326 Dianna
These cats, they know things we can only guess at.
332 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:35:46pm |
re: #324 Flyers1974
I was just in Colorado for the first time, beautiful state. Any idea why it turned "blue." I'd guess transplants from east coast, etc...
Transplants from California.
333 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:36:10pm |
re: #322 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Soooooooo bummed about Michael.
If Manilow dies... bury me under the piano.
Shit.
I write the songs that make the whole world bleed.....
334 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:36:19pm |
re: #325 SasquatchOnSteroids
Kool-Aid
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
335 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:36:24pm |
re: #324 Flyers1974
I was just in Colorado for the first time, beautiful state. Any idea why it turned "blue." I'd guess transplants from east coast, etc...
Californicated
336 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:36:30pm |
re: #332 lobo91
Transplants from California.
Yeah, they came here from California to get away from high taxes and regulation.
///
337 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:36:41pm |
338 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:36:44pm |
re: #280 Floral Giraffe
Too funny! Mine were asking "do you care about baby seals?" I told him they were tasty when grilled! They don't bug me now!
Ha!
The other day, there was some guy with a clipboard out on the sidewalk. He asked me if I had a moment to talk about peace. I replied that I had a moment to talk about kicking asses and not even bothering to take names, if he liked.
339 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:37:10pm |
re: #327 OldLineTexan
Bitter clingy conservative white men are so damned predictable, eh?
Are they? And if they are, why would that apply to you? You don't seem especially bitter. Or clingy!
340 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:37:54pm |
re: #332 lobo91
Transplants from California.
"Honey, now that we're finally away from California, I think we should work hard to turn Colorado into another California."
//Typical.
/
341 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:38:06pm |
re: #336 Gus 802
Yeah, they came here from California to get away from high taxes and regulation.
///
And in a decade or two they will wonder why the cost of living there is so damn high.
342 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:38:18pm |
re: #330 Gus 802
I was just there to climb one of your smaller mountains, which I had no business doing, being close to a pack a day smoker. Had no choice in the matter though. Survived at least.
343 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:38:31pm |
re: #339 iceweasel
Are they? And if they are, why would that apply to you? You don't seem especially bitter. Or clingy!
I have guns and religion ... it's a definitions thing.
;)
As for bitter ... no cigar, and the cat keeps batting screws and rubber feet at me ... where is he getting this crap?
344 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:38:37pm |
Projection: It'll be years before jobs return to much of U.S.
Most of the country — 286 of 325 metro areas covered in the IHS analysis_ aren't likely to regain their pre-recession employment levels until at least 2012.Of these areas, 112 probably won't return to their recent peaks until 2014 or later. These include Rust Belt towns such as Cleveland, Dayton and Akron, Ohio; Detroit, Warren and Flint, Mich.; the hurricane-ravaged Gulfport-Biloxi, Miss., area and the greater Los Angeles region, where the housing bubble and high unemployment have strangled the local economy.
Yeah, this is a swell time to pass Waxman-whatchamacallit, force Americans into a single-payer health care system with rationing of services, and borrow money to GIVE AWAY AS FOREIGN AID!
345 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:38:42pm |
re: #328 Racer X
Thanks.
I figured no way she would be that suicidal, without taking him with her.
That's my opinion. I'm far from a photo expert. But since I work in live theatre, I am up on things like lighting, and that the first thing I look for in a photo.
I also noticed a small part of a shadow from her left leg, on the chrome bumper. It is as well defined as the shadow from her right arm, and the width of the both shadows are appropriate.
So, first look, faked, IMO.
346 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:38:48pm |
re: #325 SasquatchOnSteroids
This link is broken. Where's my kool-aid, dammit.
You can't get there unless you are on a unicorn, sorry.
347 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:20pm |
re: #338 Dianna
Ha!
The other day, there was some guy with a clipboard out on the sidewalk. He asked me if I had a moment to talk about peace. I replied that I had a moment to talk about kicking asses and not even bothering to take names, if he liked.
That's insane.
348 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:25pm |
re: #340 Gus 802
"Honey, now that we're finally away from California, I think we should work hard to turn Colorado into another California."
//Typical.
/
You need your own variation on the popular Southern bumper sticker, "I don't care how ya'll did it up North."
349 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:30pm |
re: #342 Flyers1974
I was just there to climb one of your smaller mountains, which I had no business doing, being close to a pack a day smoker. Had no choice in the matter though. Survived at least.
Longs Peak?
350 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:31pm |
re: #343 OldLineTexan
I have guns and religion ... it's a definitions thing.
;)
As for bitter ... no cigar, and the cat keeps batting screws and rubber feet at me ... where is he getting this crap?
They're all connected. It's the paw in each world thing.
351 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:45pm |
re: #346 avanti
You can't get there unless you are on a unicorn, sorry.
Damn, and I still got the IOU for my unicorn
352 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:49pm |
re: #341 ArchangelMichael
And in a decade or two they will wonder why the cost of living there is so damn high.
That's correct. Look at what happened to New Jersey. NJ used to be the alternative to "expensive NY." Now NJ has one of the highest taxes if not THE highest taxes in the country. Transplant demands?
353 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:49pm |
re: #334 jaunte
Kool-Aid
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
heh. With Vitamin C !
C your kid go absolutelyfuckinwhacko after 3 glasses.
354 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:56pm |
re: #346 avanti
You can't get there unless you are on a unicorn, sorry.
Only virgins can ride those, you know. It's not like a Studebaker.
/
355 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:40:09pm |
Okay. Goodnight. Gonna do my impression of a somnambulist... without all the walking....
I got more pleasure out of Michael's music than I got out of Farrah's poster.
And I got a pile of pleasure out of Farrah's poster.
What a shitty, shitty, shitty month.
356 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:40:22pm |
re: #313 OldLineTexan
NO, but now I want a cigar.
/dammit
Another tax to raise revenue is costing jobs.
357 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:41:06pm |
re: #342 Flyers1974
I was just there to climb one of your smaller mountains, which I had no business doing, being close to a pack a day smoker. Had no choice in the matter though. Survived at least.
Did you bring a pack of smokes for the climb? I've done that hiking before.
358 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:41:40pm |
re: #349 The Shadow Do
Longs Peak?
Is that the one next to Grays? I did Grays. At least I did 12,000 feet.
359 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:42:06pm |
I'm out of books for the train. I think I shall revert to writing.
360 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:42:14pm |
Sarychev Peak Volcano in Stereo
Break out your 3D glasses for this one.
361 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:42:15pm |
re: #311 The Shadow Do
FUCKING OUCH!
LOL
Just teasing...I hated the Lakers won....I've hated them my whole life...(But as a native California we secretly love LA.That's why we keep sending them water)
But I always loved it knowing after a big lose by LA that Jack Nickelson was probably sitting unshaven at his breakfast table at 6am drinking Vodka and staring out the window in shock....Those moments are priceless in my mind...I have an extra step in my life all day long.....
/over/under jack passes out by noon
363 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:43:17pm |
re: #359 Dianna
I'm out of books for the train. I think I shall revert to writing.
I started an "Arthurian" cycle. So far, so good. Interesting storylines and characters.
364 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:43:26pm |
re: #352 Gus 802
That's correct. Look at what happened to New Jersey. NJ used to be the alternative to "expensive NY." Now NJ has one of the highest taxes if not THE highest taxes in the country. Transplant demands?
The first time I realized that CA transplants were numerous enough in other states to start having an effect on them was when Nevada banned smoking in restaurants and bars. Nevada... VICE capital of the country. The state where prostitution is legal in some places... This has to be CA transplants.
365 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:43:33pm |
re: #346 avanti
You can't get there unless you are on a unicorn, sorry.
Just howling at the moon. Actually looked to see how much I made v. what I get to keep.
/growl
366 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:43:41pm |
re: #361 HoosierHoops
LOL
Just teasing...I hated the Lakers won....I've hated them my whole life...(But as a native California we secretly love LA.That's why we keep sending them water)
But I always loved it knowing after a big lose by LA that Jack Nickelson was probably sitting unshaven at his breakfast table at 6am drinking Vodka and staring out the window in shock....Those moments are priceless in my mind...I have an extra step in my life all day long.....
/over/under jack passes out by noon
Secret Northern California code:
The Vampire Ditch.
367 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:44:08pm |
re: #363 OldLineTexan
I started an "Arthurian" cycle. So far, so good. Interesting storylines and characters.
Try Quicksilver, the first book of Neal Stephensons Baroque series.
368 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:44:21pm |
re: #361 HoosierHoops
LOL
Just teasing...I hated the Lakers won....I've hated them my whole life...(But as a native California we secretly love LA.That's why we keep sending them water)
But I always loved it knowing after a big lose by LA that Jack Nickelson was probably sitting unshaven at his breakfast table at 6am drinking Vodka and staring out the window in shock....Those moments are priceless in my mind...I have an extra step in my life all day long.....
/over/under jack passes out by noon
At 6am, Nicholson was snoring as three hot women bickered quietly over who was gonna cook Moby's breakfast.
;)
369 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:44:32pm |
re: #361 HoosierHoops
I love your pain! My SO watches every game, watching the draft right now. GO BBALL!
370 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:45:11pm |
Just finished book 9 for the Wheel of Time series, 2 more to go and I'll be ready for the new book this fall
371 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:45:18pm |
re: #363 OldLineTexan
I started an "Arthurian" cycle. So far, so good. Interesting storylines and characters.
Writing or reading?
Remember, the medievals held there were only three subjects worth writing about: The Matter of Troy, Salvation, and The Matter of Britain.
372 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:45:21pm |
re: #293 Flyers1974
Nice. Are you into fireworks? I am, just hate fighting the masses to see them. I'd get my own, but I'm always afraid I'm going to set someone's tree (or worse) on fire.
Love fireworks. This year, I'll actually get a chance to see them.
373 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:46:08pm |
re: #367 Walter L. Newton
Try Quicksilver, the first book of Neal Stephensons Baroque series.
I already read the Baroque Cycle.
374 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:46:10pm |
re: #357 Gus 802
Did you bring a pack of smokes for the climb? I've done that hiking before.
I did, but I didn't smoke up there. I was really dying, I had no desire to smoke. When I was done, I wanted a cig, but waited - why wife would have mocked me incessantly, she's a rabid anti smoker.
375 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:46:11pm |
re: #346 avanti
You can't get there unless you are on a unicorn, sorry.
Does it light the way by farting rainbows?
/////
376 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:46:45pm |
377 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:46:52pm |
re: #370 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Just finished book 9 for the Wheel of Time series, 2 more to go and I'll be ready for the new book this fall
Jordan's dead. He didn't finish. You're screwed.
378 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:46:59pm |
Maybe it is just me, but has anyone else noticed that Dem policies are sort of contrary to job creation?
What a dumb thought Shadow, we can put everyone on the government payroll of course.
/slaps forehead, such a dope am I
379 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:47:00pm |
re: #367 Walter L. Newton
Try Quicksilver, the first book of Neal Stephensons Baroque series.
Thanks, I favorited that and will look it up.
380 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:47:01pm |
re: #340 Gus 802
"Honey, now that we're finally away from California, I think we should work hard to turn Colorado into another California."
//Typical.
/
Reminds me of an Eagles song:
And you can see them there,
On Sunday morning
They stand up and sing about
what it's like up there
They call it paradise
I don't know why
You call someplace paradise,
kiss it goodbye
Ironically, of course, Don Henley was singing about California...
381 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:47:05pm |
re: #373 Dianna
I already read the Baroque Cycle.
I'm on book one, Quicksilver, finished Cryptonomicon about a month ago.
382 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:47:16pm |
re: #364 ArchangelMichael
The first time I realized that CA transplants were numerous enough in other states to start having an effect on them was when Nevada banned smoking in restaurants and bars. Nevada... VICE capital of the country. The state where prostitution is legal in some places... This has to be CA transplants.
Yuck, the smoking bans. They're almost nationwide and here in Colorado. No smoking in bars. Right, for "health reasons." I guess they've never seen a cirrhotic liver. I remember being in San Francisco once and hearing some people complain about me smoking a cigar -- on the sidewalk. Another time I was walking through Berkeley smoking and people were looking at me like I was from Mars. I finally looked up and saw the signs which look like "No Parking Signs" that read "No Smoking." They're starting to institute no smoking in public spaces including outdoors. And it all originated from California.
383 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:48:03pm |
re: #371 Dianna
Writing or reading?
Remember, the medievals held there were only three subjects worth writing about: The Matter of Troy, Salvation, and The Matter of Britain.
Reading. Were I writing it, I doubt I would pat myself on the back so.
;)
384 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:48:19pm |
re: #381 Walter L. Newton
I'm on book one, Quicksilver, finished Cryptonomicon about a month ago.
I finished Anathem back before the turn of the year. I can't sell it, because I was scribbling notes and complaints in the margins.
385 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:48:54pm |
re: #380 lobo91
Ironically, of course, Don Henley was singing about California...
Yep, and it's true, so I heard. Of the paradise that California once was. In natural settings I'm sure that's still true.
387 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:00pm |
re: #377 Dianna
Jordan's dead. He didn't finish. You're screwed.
He personally chose a successor and spent the final months before he died passing all his notes and materials along to finish the series. 3 more books. Will have to wait and see.
388 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:24pm |
re: #377 Dianna
In the good news dept., it's almost time for a new Harry Potter movie!
389 | lazardo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:24pm |
re: #385 Gus 802
Yep, and it's true, so I heard. Of the paradise that California once was. In natural settings I'm sure that's still true.
All the trees are brown, and the skies are grey...
390 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:28pm |
re: #366 Dianna
Secret Northern California code:
The Vampire Ditch.
LOL
I remember when in was in my 20's and flew down to LA and got off the plane...
The smell.. And my eyes..oh my gawd! My eyes are burning!
It took awhile to get used to..
391 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:43pm |
re: #382 Gus 802
Yuck, the smoking bans. They're almost nationwide and here in Colorado. No smoking in bars. Right, for "health reasons." I guess they've never seen a cirrhotic liver. I remember being in San Francisco once and hearing some people complain about me smoking a cigar -- on the sidewalk. Another time I was walking through Berkeley smoking and people were looking at me like I was from Mars. I finally looked up and saw the signs which look like "No Parking Signs" that read "No Smoking." They're starting to institute no smoking in public spaces including outdoors. And it all originated from California.
All those anti-smoking hippies eating organic produce are likely to live a long time, I suppose, meaning they'll be around far too long and will continue annoying us indefinitely.
392 | CynicalConservative Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:43pm |
re: #384 Dianna
I finished Anathem back before the turn of the year. I can't sell it, because I was scribbling notes and complaints in the margins.
I'd buy it. I love the human touch on a book.
393 | Mich-again Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:49pm |
re: #382 Gus 802
They're starting to institute no smoking in public spaces including outdoors. And it all originated from California.
How many cigarettes does it take to equal the smoke from a 10,000 acre wildfire?
394 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:50:09pm |
re: #374 Flyers1974
I did, but I didn't smoke up there. I was really dying, I had no desire to smoke. When I was done, I wanted a cig, but waited - why wife would have mocked me incessantly, she's a rabid anti smoker.
I know how rabid an anti-smoker a person is when they ask me this question:
"Are you smoking?"
And I'm not smoking.
396 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:50:28pm |
re: #382 Gus 802
Yuck, the smoking bans. They're almost nationwide and here in Colorado. No smoking in bars. Right, for "health reasons." I guess they've never seen a cirrhotic liver. I remember being in San Francisco once and hearing some people complain about me smoking a cigar -- on the sidewalk. Another time I was walking through Berkeley smoking and people were looking at me like I was from Mars. I finally looked up and saw the signs which look like "No Parking Signs" that read "No Smoking." They're starting to institute no smoking in public spaces including outdoors. And it all originated from California.
You haven't had fun until you're at the Fillmore for a concert and every idiot and his third cousin is lighting up joints.
As I said to a friend once, "If I lit a cigarette, I'd last about as long as a parent at a repressed memory convention."
397 | Mich-again Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:50:43pm |
398 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:50:52pm |
re: #394 Gus 802
I know how rabid an anti-smoker a person is when they ask me this question:
"Are you smoking?"
And I'm not smoking.
"Nah, I rolled around for a bit and it went out"
399 | wee fury Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:12pm |
re: #371 Dianna
The 'Twilight' series are fun to read when on the move.
400 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:14pm |
Everyone please be generous with their updings for avanti tonight. When his karma goes positive, I've got a pair of tribute vids for him.
401 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:18pm |
re: #396 Dianna
You haven't had fun until you're at the Fillmore for a concert and every idiot and his third cousin is lighting up joints.
As I said to a friend once, "If I lit a cigarette, I'd last about as long as a parent at a repressed memory convention."
"Yeah but smoking pot doesn't cause cancer!"
///
/Just dementia depending on daily use.
402 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:19pm |
re: #384 Dianna
I finished Anathem back before the turn of the year. I can't sell it, because I was scribbling notes and complaints in the margins.
My girlfriend introduced me to his books. Over all, I like. He gets a bit over bearing sometimes (well, when he does, it's big time over bearing), but it's appears that if you stick them out, you won't be disappointed.
I'm probably a long way away from Anathem, since I am only about 1/3 the way through Quicksilver, and I still have The Confusion and The SYtem of the World in the Baroque Cycle.
Maybe Christmas time, a present, hint, hint (for anyone out there) :)
403 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:22pm |
re: #385 Gus 802
Yep, and it's true, so I heard. Of the paradise that California once was. In natural settings I'm sure that's still true.
The Last Resort starts in Colorado, moves to California, and finishes in Hawaii.
405 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:29pm |
Evening y'all - what all are we talking about?
406 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:38pm |
re: #376 Racer X
Hey!
Don't make me break out the "Kobe scary face".
LOL!
I love L.A.!
Congratulations! I saw Kobe on the Tonight Show...They had to stop taping for awhile because of the uproar...
Kobe is in my top 10 players of all time..And it really pains me to say that
407 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:44pm |
re: #388 OldLineTexan
In the good news dept., it's almost time for a new Harry Potter movie!
Peter Jackson has produced a new sci-fi horror movie due out in August
408 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:06pm |
re: #398 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
"Nah, I rolled around for a bit and it went out"
Like a Formula 1 racer from the 60s.
//
409 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:15pm |
re: #387 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
He personally chose a successor and spent the final months before he died passing all his notes and materials along to finish the series. 3 more books. Will have to wait and see.
I have never picked up Wheel. For reasons that include the cover art.
411 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:32pm |
re: #358 Flyers1974
Is that the one next to Grays? I did Grays. At least I did 12,000 feet.
No, Grays is South. Longs Peak is just west of Longmont (Boulder) - the most frequently climbed 14teener.
412 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:33pm |
re: #396 Dianna
I took a date to see Neil Young at The Summit years ago and felt positively rude.
/we were the only two people that did not spark a doob immediately as the lights dimmed
413 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:40pm |
414 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:42pm |
415 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:52pm |
re: #406 HoosierHoops
Congratulations! I saw Kobe on the Tonight Show...They had to stop taping for awhile because of the uproar...
Kobe is in my top 10 players of all time..And it really pains me to say that
Hey, Hi ya Hoops! Who are the other 9 players in your top 10 list?
417 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:53:04pm |
re: #403 Dianna
The Last Resort starts in Colorado, moves to California, and finishes in Hawaii.
That's funny because I've pondered Hawaii. I've done California, and Colorado thus far.
418 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:53:33pm |
re: #407 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Peter Jackson has produced a new sci-fi horror movie due out in August
What is it?
420 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:53:48pm |
re: #382 Gus 802
I don't really give too much of a rats ass if smoking is banned in restaurants, but I'd rather the owner of a private establishment be able to make that decision.
Bars on the other hand, that is completely ridiculous. They are supposed to be dens of vice. People in them, are not supposed to be overly concerned with their health. When I step foot in a bar, I'm making a conscious decision to spend the evening doing various unhealthy things. And as for the "safety of the workplace" nonsense... seriously, no one is forcing anyone to work there, and almost everyone I know that works in a bar not attached to a restaurant smokes themselves.
421 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:53:58pm |
I know we have photographers and Photoshop experts on here and have a question. I've always like this picture with a vintage Buick and train, but it seems "too" pretty.
Train.
422 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:54:07pm |
re: #413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How fucking awesome you are.
Now you know I'm not gonna believe that, seriously what are y'all talking about?
423 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:54:18pm |
re: #381 Walter L. Newton
I'm on book one, Quicksilver, finished Cryptonomicon about a month ago.
I think you are going to love them. Neil is a clever boots. The book is about a lot of things, but includes the whole evolution of modern currency, markets, and bourses. And half-cocked Jack is a kick in the ass.
424 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:54:20pm |
425 | lazardo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:54:46pm |
re: #402 Walter L. Newton
My girlfriend introduced me to his books. Over all, I like. He gets a bit over bearing sometimes (well, when he does, it's big time over bearing), but it's appears that if you stick them out, you won't be disappointed.
I'm probably a long way away from Anathem, since I am only about 1/3 the way through Quicksilver, and I still have The Confusion and The SYtem of the World in the Baroque Cycle.
Maybe Christmas time, a present, hint, hint (for anyone out there) :)
Edward Cullen would never get away with it around Buffy.
426 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:54:46pm |
re: #409 Dianna
I have never picked up Wheel. For reasons that include the cover art.
I was bored while stuck in Okinawa in '95 and picked up one of the books without realizing what I was getting into. 2 days later, another guy saw me reading it and asked how I liked the rest of series. Told him I never read them. The next day, he dropped off the first 5 books and told me to get back to him when I was done.
427 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:55:05pm |
re: #410 jaunte
Do you like paperback or hardback?
It doesn't matter. Seriously, I wasn't pimping for a free book, just jabbering. Like I said, I have about 2500 pages left in this series, I'm moving in July and so, it will be a while before I get to Anathem.
428 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:55:22pm |
429 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:55:53pm |
re: #415 realwest
Hey, Hi ya Hoops! Who are the other 9 players in your top 10 list?
Dude! How did it go today?
/I'll put together a list in a minute
430 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:55:53pm |
re: #396 Dianna
You haven't had fun until you're at the Fillmore for a concert and every idiot and his third cousin is lighting up joints.
As I said to a friend once, "If I lit a cigarette, I'd last about as long as a parent at a repressed memory convention."
I had that same thought watching Clapton and Winwood the other night at the Pepsi Center.
431 | Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:55:55pm |
432 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:55:57pm |
re: #361 HoosierHoops
Sadly, Nicholson is too old now to experience the year after year after year frustration of not quite getting there. He can not live long enough to experience what I have, the bastid.
433 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:04pm |
re: #422 realwest
Now you know I'm not gonna believe that, seriously what are y'all talking about?
No, really. There was a post earlier about how fucking awesome you are. But, since I am going to bed... I won't tell you where it is.
Seriously.
434 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:09pm |
re: #420 ArchangelMichael
I don't really give too much of a rats ass if smoking is banned in restaurants, but I'd rather the owner of a private establishment be able to make that decision.
Bars on the other hand, that is completely ridiculous. They are supposed to be dens of vice. People in them, are not supposed to be overly concerned with their health. When I step foot in a bar, I'm making a conscious decision to spend the evening doing various unhealthy things. And as for the "safety of the workplace" nonsense... seriously, no one is forcing anyone to work there, and almost everyone I know that works in a bar not attached to a restaurant smokes themselves.
Yep. Was seeing that today. I was doing some work in an office today and who's out in the back of the bar smoking? The bar workers. I find it odd going to bar these days and not being able to smoke.
435 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:10pm |
You know, FBV, I just called my mother to tell her how fucking awesome realwest is ... she's going in for a knee replacement in a couple of days, and I wanted to cheer her up!
437 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:25pm |
re: #424 Gus 802
Thanks. For some reason the Eagles reminds me of Arizona. Maybe it's the lyrics or something. There's another state that "changed."
You're thinking of "Take it Easy." Which was written by Jackson Browne, the quintessential California song writer.
439 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:55pm |
re: #427 Walter L. Newton
It's just a strange coincidence; I was going to send you Quicksilver as a thanks for the meteorite (about a month ago). Then I got into a huge project at work and did 3 weeks of 14 hour days and the plan sort of left my head.
440 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:56pm |
re: #421 avanti
Well I'm no photoshop expert but I'd say that photo looks real to me. It's not too pretty, given the setting.
BTW, have you ever perused any of Ansel Adams photos? Some of them just take my breath away they are so magnificient and they were all in black and white.
441 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:57:13pm |
442 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:57:15pm |
re: #396 Dianna
You haven't had fun until you're at the Fillmore for a concert and every idiot and his third cousin is lighting up joints.
As I said to a friend once, "If I lit a cigarette, I'd last about as long as a parent at a repressed memory convention."
This is a case of cognitive dissonance that really pisses me off. Almost everyone I've known who is rabid anti-smoker smokes pot. If I try to point this out to them, they look at me with this "but this is natural and has vitamins in it and shit" expression on their face.
443 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:57:18pm |
re: #423 austin_blue
I think you are going to love them. Neil is a clever boots. The book is about a lot of things, but includes the whole evolution of modern currency, markets, and bourses. And half-cocked Jack is a kick in the ass.
I just got to the 2nd story line, Jack and Eliza, just met and leaving Vienna, and yes, some of the most clever patter between those two that I have read in a long time.
(That sentence was badly constructed).
444 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:57:41pm |
re: #437 Dianna
You're thinking of "Take it Easy." Which was written by Jackson Browne, the quintessential California song writer.
Maybe the song just stuck in my head. Winslow, AZ...
445 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:57:48pm |
re: #430 lobo91
I had that same thought watching Clapton and Winwood the other night at the Pepsi Center.
I am so envious.
Though, come to think of it, that's one of the few concerts I could take my Male to, and both of us would enjoy it.
446 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:58:18pm |
re: #437 Dianna
You're thinking of "Take it Easy." Which was written by Jackson Browne, the quintessential California song writer.
I'm standin' on a corner in Winslow, Arizona
447 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:58:20pm |
re: #444 Gus 802
Maybe the song just stuck in my head. Winslow, AZ...
What? You standin' on a corner?...
448 | BatGuano Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:58:22pm |
OT. Has any one read the SF novel: The Guns of the South, by Harry Turtledove, and if so could it not be a good movie?
449 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:58:30pm |
re: #440 realwest
Well I'm no photoshop expert but I'd say that photo looks real to me. It's not too pretty, given the setting.
BTW, have you ever perused any of Ansel Adams photos? Some of them just take my breath away they are so magnificient and they were all in black and white.
I'm a real fan of him, he was a genus.
450 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:58:38pm |
re: #372 Dark_Falcon
re: #394 Gus 802
I know how rabid an anti-smoker a person is when they ask me this question:
"Are you smoking?"
And I'm not smoking.
Absolutely, I've heard that one many times. I voluntarily gave up smoking in the house, although I didn't do it that much anyway and always by the window. Now she hates it if I'm anywhere near the door while outside. I guess I'm lucky she tolerates it at all though, she's one of those marathon/triatholon people. Always embarrasing to be at one of her marathons having a quick cigarette, everyone looking at me like I'm a freak. I'm going to quit anyway, no matter...one of these days.
451 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:58:59pm |
452 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:15pm |
On the subject, I just ran across this on YouTube. It's Phil Collins performing In The Air Tonight for Live Aid back in 1985. The interesting part; He's playing a piano and there are no drums to be heard. Have a listen:
453 | lazardo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:16pm |
I seem to be invisible today.
Ah well, gonna eat a late breakfast. Cheers.
454 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:16pm |
re: #424 Gus 802
Thanks. For some reason the Eagles reminds me of Arizona. Maybe it's the lyrics or something. There's another state that "changed."
Possibly because their first big hit song was "Take It Easy" the opening line to which was something like "Well I'm standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona and there's such a fine sight to see - it's a girl my Lord in a flatbed Ford slowing down to take a look at me." ?!
456 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:22pm |
re: #432 The Shadow Do
Sadly, Nicholson is too old now to experience the year after year after year frustration of not quite getting there. He can not live long enough to experience what I have, the bastid.
Who was the 20 something blonde sitting next to him during the play-offs?
457 | doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:28pm |
re: #425 lazardo
Love that! I am a huge Buffy fan (hence the nic).
It's getting late on the east coast, so I'm going to bail. My husband should be back from the airport with my oldest daughter pretty soon. She's going to be here 5 whole days before she moves to DC permanently. What's the opposite of schadenfreude?
458 | Mich-again Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:28pm |
re: #453 lazardo
I seem to be invisible today.
Ah well, gonna eat a late breakfast. Cheers.
I see you!
459 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:31pm |
re: #442 ArchangelMichael
This is a case of cognitive dissonance that really pisses me off. Almost everyone I've known who is rabid anti-smoker smokes pot. If I try to point this out to them, they look at me with this "but this is natural and has vitamins in it and shit" expression on their face.
ha!
When they die of throat and stomach cancer, you won't laugh, but at least you'll know why.
460 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:36pm |
re: #439 jaunte
It's just a strange coincidence; I was going to send you Quicksilver as a thanks for the meteorite (about a month ago). Then I got into a huge project at work and did 3 weeks of 14 hour days and the plan sort of left my head.
That's Ok, it's the thought. I'm 1/3 the way through Quicksilver. It's in the light booth at the theatre, I read it at supper time before the shows, so, I only manage about 40-50 pages a week.
461 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:00:15pm |
re: #448 BatGuano
OT. Has any one read the SF novel: The Guns of the South, by Harry Turtledove, and if so could it not be a good movie?
It's an irritating piece of nonsense, but it would make a great movie. Particularly since it's just preachy enough.
462 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:00:19pm |
463 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:00:31pm |
re: #445 Dianna
I am so envious.
Though, come to think of it, that's one of the few concerts I could take my Male to, and both of us would enjoy it.
It was a great show.
464 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:00:36pm |
465 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:00:56pm |
re: #434 Gus 802
Yep. Was seeing that today. I was doing some work in an office today and who's out in the back of the bar smoking? The bar workers. I find it odd going to bar these days and not being able to smoke.
Last 2 times I was in a bar, I had to wait extraordinarily long amounts of time to get a drink because there was 1 guy tending bar, and 2-3 other bartenders outside smoking at any given time.
466 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:00:58pm |
re: #456 HoosierHoops
Who was the 20 something blonde sitting next to him during the play-offs?
Hell, even he doesn't probably know.
467 | Opilio Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:01:13pm |
468 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:01:24pm |
re: #440 realwest
Well I'm no photoshop expert but I'd say that photo looks real to me. It's not too pretty, given the setting.
BTW, have you ever perused any of Ansel Adams photos? Some of them just take my breath away they are so magnificient and they were all in black and white.
Ansel was a member of the F64 club. Dense grained B&W film, small apertures, long exposures. The unsung hero of his work was his wife who did most of the darkroom work but never got credit for the quality of the prints. It is often thus.
469 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:01:48pm |
re: #446 OldLineTexan
I'm standin' on a corner in Winslow, Arizona
Such a fine sight to see.
It's a girl, my Lord, in a flat-bed Ford,
Slowin' down to have a look at me.
470 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:01:51pm |
re: #465 ArchangelMichael
Last 2 times I was in a bar, I had to wait extraordinarily long amounts of time to get a drink because there was 1 guy tending bar, and 2-3 other bartenders outside smoking at any given time.
Whose leg do you have to hump to get a dry martini around here?
/I love Brian the Dog
471 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:02:07pm |
472 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:02:23pm |
re: #429 HoosierHoops
It went like this: Densist - "Yep, I think you need a root canal on that tooth that hurts you so much but I don't do root canals, come back tomorrow at 2:00PM and Dr. SoandSo will do it and replace the crown."
BTW, Dr. SoandSo' wife just gave birth to triplets last Friday. Hope he can stay awake long enough to do what need to be done!
473 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:02:32pm |
re: #456 HoosierHoops
Who was the 20 something blonde sitting next to him during the play-offs?
I retract my frustration comment.
/The bastid
474 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:02:40pm |
re: #450 Flyers1974
re: #394 Gus 802
Absolutely, I've heard that one many times. I voluntarily gave up smoking in the house, although I didn't do it that much anyway and always by the window. Now she hates it if I'm anywhere near the door while outside. I guess I'm lucky she tolerates it at all though, she's one of those marathon/triatholon people. Always embarrasing to be at one of her marathons having a quick cigarette, everyone looking at me like I'm a freak. I'm going to quit anyway, no matter...one of these days.
My ex-gf was a runner. My smoking drove her crazy. But she also grew up around smoking since her father smoked all the time. He was one of those eat and smoke guys.
476 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:03:24pm |
re: #469 Dianna
Such a fine sight to see.
It's a girl, my Lord, in a flat-bed Ford,
Slowin' down to have a look at me.
Glenn Frey did the lyrics, JB did the music.
477 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:03:25pm |
re: #454 realwest
Possibly because their first big hit song was "Take It Easy" the opening line to which was something like "Well I'm standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona and there's such a fine sight to see - it's a girl my Lord in a flatbed Ford slowing down to take a look at me." ?!
Second verse, real. And it was written by Jackson Browne. It's on For Everyman, too.
478 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:03:32pm |
re: #467 Opilio
On my monitor, it looks like a painting.
That was my thought, but wondered if the old Buick was Photoshopped in.
479 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:03:55pm |
re: #475 Mich-again
Gotta world of troubles on my mind.
I'm looking for a lover who won't blow my cover -
He's just a little hard to find.
480 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:03:56pm |
re: #433 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No, really. There was a post earlier about how fucking awesome you are. But, since I am going to bed... I won't tell you where it is.
Seriously.
Uh huh. No nic names or threads or anything, I tells ya FBV, I ain't as stupid as I seem!
481 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:04:02pm |
re: #465 ArchangelMichael
Last 2 times I was in a bar, I had to wait extraordinarily long amounts of time to get a drink because there was 1 guy tending bar, and 2-3 other bartenders outside smoking at any given time.
That's a hoot.
482 | BatGuano Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:04:19pm |
re: #461 Dianna
It's an irritating piece of nonsense, but it would make a great movie. Particularly since it's just preachy enough.
Preachy it is! I agree it could be a great move.
483 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:04:27pm |
re: #448 BatGuano
OT. Has any one read the SF novel: The Guns of the South, by Harry Turtledove, and if so could it not be a good movie?
Good book, but I don't know if you could get the needed cast for the movie. Who would you cast for the roles?
Some picks by me:
James Longstreet: Tom Berenger (he did well in the role in Gettysburg
Nathan Bedford Forrest: Christan Bale (you want nasty intense for that man, and Bale can deliver that).
Others?
484 | Noam Sayin' Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:11pm |
re: #307 Walter L. Newton
Photoshopped. AD is photoshopped onto the top of the vehicle. Look at the woman, she is casting a shadow in front of her (arm), so the sun is behind her, yet AD right arm, which is in front of him, should be casting a defined line against his grey jacket, somewhere in his right chest area. No shadow.
Isn't what you're calling a shadow a reflection of her arm in the chrome?
485 | CynicalConservative Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:15pm |
re: #478 avanti
That was my thought, but wondered if the old Buick was Photoshopped in.
Looks like the standard "perfect" picture that libs and dems want us all to buy into.
:-)
486 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:23pm |
re: #478 avanti
Since they could likely predict when the train would be there, it's probably one shot. They may have tried it a couple of times before the air was so clear, though.
487 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:26pm |
re: #441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In a total "dude crush" kinda way.
Whew, y'all had me worried for a minute there!
/
489 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:41pm |
re: #469 Dianna
Such a fine sight to see.
It's a girl, my Lord, in a flat-bed Ford,
Slowin' down to have a look at me.
Of course, if you've ever been to Winslow, you know that song's about all it has going for it...
490 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:42pm |
re: #472 realwest
It went like this: Densist - "Yep, I think you need a root canal on that tooth that hurts you so much but I don't do root canals, come back tomorrow at 2:00PM and Dr. SoandSo will do it and replace the crown."
BTW, Dr. SoandSo' wife just gave birth to triplets last Friday. Hope he can stay awake long enough to do what need to be done!
Sorry to hear that.....I think about ya
Wanna hear my top 10? Really?
491 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:06:01pm |
re: #476 austin_blue
Glenn Frey did the lyrics, JB did the music.
Really? So far as I know, JB did all of it.
492 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:06:17pm |
re: #467 Opilio
On my monitor, it looks like a painting.
I don't know where they got a steam train running in the winter like that, but it certainly looks real. The shadows from the smoke seems spot on, the shadows from all other objects in the picture are proportional, and even the "melt" of the snow is all in the right direction, suggesting a afternoon southern sun (same direction as the shadows).
I think it's real.
493 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:06:49pm |
re: #472 realwest
GACK! I hate dental work!
495 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:07:18pm |
re: #473 The Shadow Do
I retract my frustration comment.
/The bastid
she was there every game next to him..Maybe his daughter....
496 | Opilio Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:07:22pm |
497 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:07:44pm |
re: #495 HoosierHoops
she was there every game next to him..Maybe his daughter....
Nurse.
/
Goodnight!
498 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:07:45pm |
re: #485 CynicalConservative
Looks like the standard "perfect" picture that libs and dems want us all to buy into.
:-)
No, too much C02 from the coal burning locomotive and the pre emission control Buick. It's a tree huggers nightmare.
499 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:07:50pm |
re: #484 Noam Sayin'
Isn't what you're calling a shadow a reflection of her arm in the chrome?
Now that you say that, yes it could be.
500 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:07:50pm |
re: #411 The Shadow Do
No, Grays is South. Longs Peak is just west of Longmont (Boulder) - the most frequently climbed 14teener.
Got it. It is a beautiful mountain, first one I was ever on. It still had quite a bit of snow, and it started snowing while I was going up. It was an interesting experience. We parked the car about 2 miles from the start point and that walk was the steepest part of the whole thing. I thought I wouldn't get much further than the start point, but then I got pissed and made it to 12,000. I could have made it all the way, but for the time factor - although I hadn't hit the point where the altitude starts seriously messing with your mind, so who knows.
501 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:08:10pm |
re: #468 austin_blue
Huh, I didn't know that his wife did most of the darkroom work! Still and all, a genius with a camera!
502 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:08:12pm |
re: #481 Gus 802
That's a hoot.
Didn't seem that way to me at the time, but after the fact I guess so. Being one of those Seinfeld "low-talkers" doesn't help me to get the single non-smoking bartender's attention either.
503 | OldLineTexan Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:08:25pm |
504 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:08:26pm |
re: #495 HoosierHoops
she was there every game next to him..Maybe his daughter....
Sure, sure, sure....
505 | Noam Sayin' Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:09:04pm |
re: #499 Walter L. Newton
Now that you say that, yes it could be.
Looks like the light source is from the high right in both portions of the pic.
But I certainly couldn't tell you if it's photoshopped.
507 | freetoken Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:09:49pm |
re: #498 avanti
The art of photography is the art of the visual lie.
508 | CynicalConservative Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:10:04pm |
re: #498 avanti
No, too much C02 from the coal burning locomotive and the pre emission control Buick. It's a tree huggers nightmare.
No worries, just couldn't resist taking a poke at ya, perfect opportunity and all with the "perfect" picture.
Kudos on the Karma recovery. Impressive to be sure...
509 | Mich-again Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:10:33pm |
re: #506 realwest
C'mon Baaaby, don't say maaybe".
We may lose and we may win,
But we will never be here again..
510 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:10:41pm |
re: #502 ArchangelMichael
Didn't seem that way to me at the time, but after the fact I guess so. Being one of those Seinfeld "low-talkers" doesn't help me to get the single non-smoking bartender's attention either.
I hear ya'. I thought it was a hoot because that was part of the sales pitch in Colorado: to protect the health of the bar workers.
511 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:10:43pm |
re: #498 avanti
No, too much C02 from the coal burning locomotive and the pre emission control Buick. It's a tree huggers nightmare.
That's avanti: Liberal but not a tree hugger. The only picture he'd like better would be an Avanti outrunning a train. ;)
512 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:10:49pm |
re: #492 Walter L. Newton
I don't know where they got a steam train running in the winter like that, but it certainly looks real. The shadows from the smoke seems spot on, the shadows from all other objects in the picture are proportional, and even the "melt" of the snow is all in the right direction, suggesting a afternoon southern sun (same direction as the shadows).
I think it's real.
It's real...
Photo ID: 177612 Photo of the Week · People's Choice 1
Locomotive:
Heber Valley Railroad
Steam 2-8-0
Location/Date of Photo:
Edwards Lane
Heber City, Utah, USA
February 06, 2007
Locomotive No./Train ID
618
Unknown Photographer:
Michael F. Allen
Contact Michael F. Allen
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Remarks: The secret is out, the Heber Valley is the place to be for winter steam photography! Annie Bruehl waits at the Edwards Lane crossing for UP 618 to pass by her completely original 1953 Buick.
[Link: www.railpictures.net...]
513 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:11:22pm |
And you thought California was bad?
Toronto's new green roof law a first for North America
In a first for a North American city, Toronto recently passed a new law mandating "green" rooftops for all new developments. Any new construction with floorspace of more than 2,000 square meters must devote between 20 and 60 percent of its roof to vegetation. The rule applies to residential, commercial, industrial and institutional structures.
514 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:11:31pm |
re: #483 Dark_Falcon
Good book, but I don't know if you could get the needed cast for the movie. Who would you cast for the roles?
Some picks by me:
James Longstreet: Tom Berenger (he did well in the role in Gettysburg
Nathan Bedford Forrest: Christan Bale (you want nasty intense for that man, and Bale can deliver that).
Others?
The Vienna Boys Choir as the New York Irish division humping down the road into the first engagement with the Rebs with automatic rifles at Chancellorsville. Death of the innocents. Sasha Baron Cohen as Hooker. Lucky Luciano as Thomas Jackson (He lives this time!)
Turtledove does interesting stuff. His alternate history books are fascinating, and at this point they are *all* alternate history.
515 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:11:42pm |
re: #477 Dianna UM, ok if you say so, but my memory of old rock and roll songs is pretty damn good and I still think that's the opening lines!
516 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:11:59pm |
517 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:12:29pm |
re: #500 Flyers1974
Got it. It is a beautiful mountain, first one I was ever on. It still had quite a bit of snow, and it started snowing while I was going up. It was an interesting experience. We parked the car about 2 miles from the start point and that walk was the steepest part of the whole thing. I thought I wouldn't get much further than the start point, but then I got pissed and made it to 12,000. I could have made it all the way, but for the time factor - although I hadn't hit the point where the altitude starts seriously messing with your mind, so who knows.
Most folks don't realize how quickly these mountains can mess you up. Even the ones with the well traveled trails.
519 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:13:04pm |
520 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:13:15pm |
BERLIN (Reuters) – A Polish couple living in Germany fell out after tying the knot and decided to end their marriage on the same day.
"He said he never wanted to see her again and wanted an immediate annulment, and she said the same thing," a spokesman for police in the northern city of Hanover said Thursday.
I hate when that happens
/what happens in vegas..
521 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:13:23pm |
re: #484 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! How are ya buddy! Didja get my e-mail about maybe changing your avatar to that photo?!
522 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:13:24pm |
re: #513 Racer X
And you thought California was bad?
Let's add not only the cost of installation but maintenance of both the landscaping and the structure below. Yep, should be cheap. /
523 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:13:47pm |
524 | lazardo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:14:31pm |
re: #512 Walter L. Newton
That bullet-train one right above it is cool. Like some glowy-eyed dragon-snake from an anime.
525 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:14:37pm |
re: #490 HoosierHoops
YES - I REALLY want to hear your top 10 - so's I can compare it with mine! LOL!
526 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:14:53pm |
re: #512 Walter L. Newton
Heber Valley RR: this looks good:
Cool off a hot summer day with this fun activity for ages 3 and above. Enjoy a scenic ride from Heber to Vivian Park, raft the renowned Provo River with experienced guides through Class I and II rapids, visit the famed Sundance Resort, then catch a return shuttle to the depot.
[Link: www.hebervalleyrr.org...]
527 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:15:01pm |
re: #515 realwest
UM, ok if you say so, but my memory of old rock and roll songs is pretty damn good and I still think that's the opening lines!
First verse:
Well, I'm a-runnin' down the road
Tryin to loosen my load,
I've got seven women on my mind:
four who want to own me,
Two who want to stone me,
One says she's a friend of mine.
Take it easy, take it easy,
Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy...
528 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:16:06pm |
re: #491 Dianna
Really? So far as I know, JB did all of it.
Nah, from a review:
The opening medley of "Take It Easy" and "Our Lady of the Well" is a quiet tapestry of sound textures. Though the lyrics to "Take It Easy" are Glenn Frey's, Jackson sings the song with far more subtlety, and with an appropriate road-weariness that the Eagles' version lacked.
One of his few collaborations.
529 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:16:17pm |
OT: Was David Carridine the third in a string of celebrity deaths?
530 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:16:33pm |
re: #496 Opilio
Now that is a HOOT! Well actually, I guess Winslow finally got a tourist site! LOL!
531 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:16:51pm |
re: #474 Gus 802
My ex-gf was a runner. My smoking drove her crazy. But she also grew up around smoking since her father smoked all the time. He was one of those eat and smoke guys.
Same with me, so the idea wasn't foreign to her. But she is German, so a wee bit militant about such weaknesses. But I will admit, the spousely peer pressure, if you will, has probably kept me from smoking more. The difficulty is, when I have to think, I want to smoke.
532 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:16:52pm |
re: #526 jaunte
Heber Valley RR: this looks good:
[Link: www.hebervalleyrr.org...]
The river stuff looks fun. Where I am moving into the Rocky Mountains next month, I'll be about 20 minutes from the North Fork of the South Platte River. Great access just about 15 miles below where I'll be living.
533 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:16:58pm |
re: #512 Walter L. Newton
It's real...
Photo ID: 177612 Photo of the Week · People's Choice 1
Locomotive:
Heber Valley Railroad
Steam 2-8-0
Location/Date of Photo:Edwards Lane
Heber City, Utah, USA
February 06, 2007
Locomotive No./Train ID618
Unknown Photographer:Michael F. Allen
Contact Michael F. Allen
+ Add to FavoritesRemarks: The secret is out, the Heber Valley is the place to be for winter steam photography! Annie Bruehl waits at the Edwards Lane crossing for UP 618 to pass by her completely original 1953 Buick.
Thanks Walter, I got the pix in a e-mail and had no idea where it came from.
I was convinced it was a painting, every aspect was just too nice. Maybe it was tweaked later.
534 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:17:15pm |
re: #514 austin_blue
The Vienna Boys Choir as the New York Irish division humping down the road into the first engagement with the Rebs with automatic rifles at Chancellorsville. Death of the innocents. Sasha Baron Cohen as Hooker. Lucky Luciano as Thomas Jackson (He lives this time!)
Turtledove does interesting stuff. His alternate history books are fascinating, and at this point they are *all* alternate history.
The Man With the Iron Heart was especially interesting. Reinhard Heidrich survives his assassination attempt in Prague and leads a Nazi guerrilla movement postwar. Fairly well done and a decent look at how such a war at a different time in our history might have looked.
(The Nazi bastard is killed in the end, but it doesn't turn out very well even so. I don't remember if Patton survives, but I think he does.)
535 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:17:43pm |
536 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:17:54pm |
re: #525 realwest
YES - I REALLY want to hear your top 10 - so's I can compare it with mine! LOL!
MJ and Kobe at Guards....
Bill Russell and Shaq at Center
Bird and Magic at Forwards....
You give me the next 4....
537 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:17:55pm |
re: #529 Dianna
OT: Was David Carridine the third in a string of celebrity deaths?
I think most people are saying McMahon, Fawcett, Jackson.
538 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:18:38pm |
re: #509 Mich-again
"So open up I'm climbing in, take it easy!"
539 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:18:39pm |
Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?
540 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:18:55pm |
re: #533 avanti
Thanks Walter, I got the pix in a e-mail and had no idea where it came from.
I was convinced it was a painting, every aspect was just too nice. Maybe it was tweaked later.
Color and stuff like that probably was since it's obviously a digital photograph.
541 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:19:28pm |
re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee
Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?
Rev. Wright has not been available to comment.
//
542 | lazardo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:19:39pm |
re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee
"The Zionists assassinated Michael Jackson so the world will be distracted while the Great Satan meddles in the affairs of our glorious Islamic Republic!"
/also, mom commented that Dinnerjacket got lucky with all the coverage of MJ's death.
543 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:19:44pm |
re: #537 austin_blue
I think most people are saying McMahon, Fawcett, Jackson.
I'm talking w/ my brother. He was wondering if Carridine should be included in the triplet. I said he finished another, I thought? And I would ask. So I ask.
544 | BatGuano Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:19:45pm |
re: #483 Dark_Falcon
Robert E. Lee: Kevin Spacey.
Nate Caudell: Leonardo Dicaprio
Nathan Bedford Forrest: Tom Hanks, (seriously, he would be good).
546 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:19:58pm |
re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee
Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?
No, but I did hear a radio talk show host suggest that it won't take long for someone to add a racial spin to his death.
547 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:20:27pm |
548 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:20:44pm |
re: #507 freetoken
Ah, no. Unless you're talking photoshop or darkroom tricks.
The lens acurately reflects what's there, not what you see - your emotions "see it" differently. I say this with GREAT CONFIDENCE after shooting maybe 5,000 exposures in B&W and doing my own darkroom work!
549 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:20:57pm |
re: #540 Walter L. Newton
Color and stuff like that probably was since it's obviously a digital photograph.
Maybe the lettering on the crossing sign too.
550 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:21:10pm |
re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee
Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?
He's too western for Islamists to claim, but I'm expecting Alex Jones to come out with some bizarre theory. He'll probably debut in at a Tea Party.
/channeling Kilgore on that last one
551 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:21:38pm |
re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee
Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?
Or Bush?
Halliburton?
KBR?
Blackwater?
552 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:22:13pm |
re: #550 Dark_Falcon
He's too western for Islamists to claim, but I'm expecting Alex Jones to come out with some bizarre theory. He'll probably debut in at a Tea Party.
/channeling Kilgore on that last one
Whoa, I almost down dinged you for that until I saw the sarc sentence.
553 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:22:24pm |
re: #517 The Shadow Do
Most folks don't realize how quickly these mountains can mess you up. Even the ones with the well traveled trails.
I do feel it messed with my brain a little - I remember being emotional for know apparent reason. And at some point I decided I'd go to the top even if it got dark which wasn't rational. In my case, I met my wife when she was coming down, so I turned around. But I can definitly see how someone at a higher altitude could start making really bad decisions.
554 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:22:49pm |
re: #534 Dark_Falcon
The Man With the Iron Heart was especially interesting. Reinhard Heidrich survives his assassination attempt in Prague and leads a Nazi guerrilla movement postwar. Fairly well done and a decent look at how such a war at a different time in our history might have looked.
(The Nazi bastard is killed in the end, but it doesn't turn out very well even so. I don't remember if Patton survives, but I think he does.)
Haven't seen that one. Recently finished his diptych on the Hawaiian islands where the Japanese invade and occupy for a year or so after Pearl. Good stuff.
555 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:22:49pm |
re: #512 Walter L. Newton
Sonofagun - you never cease to amaze me Walter! HOW in the hell did you find that information out?
556 | lazardo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:23:07pm |
re: #550 Dark_Falcon
He's too western for Islamists to claim, but I'm expecting Alex Jones to come out with some bizarre theory. He'll probably debut in at a Tea Party.
/channeling Kilgore on that last one
Didn't he start living in Bahrain for a while after the trial?
557 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:23:12pm |
re: #546 Walter L. Newton
No, but I did hear a radio talk show host suggest that it won't take long for someone to add a racial spin to his death.
With two famous white women dying today, we might start seeing a celebrity serial killer conspiracy theory emerge.
558 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:23:19pm |
re: #550 Dark_Falcon
Alex Jones: The Council on Foreign Relations had an MJ-12 operative put a sekrit toxin in his Jesus Juice to induce a heart attack.
/TROOF!
559 | Racer X Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:23:58pm |
re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee
Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?
Didn't Michael stiff some Dubai businessmen on a business deal recently?
Hmm...
560 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:24:13pm |
re: #555 realwest
Sonofagun - you never cease to amaze me Walter! HOW in the hell did you find that information out?
Google images. I googled "buick steam train snow" and came up with the photo and the link to the page.
561 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:25:06pm |
re: #552 Walter L. Newton
Whoa, I almost down dinged you for that until I saw the sarc sentence.
Satire is my chosen method to back him off his Tea Party obsession. Hopefully, it settles him down a bit.
562 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:25:34pm |
re: #560 Walter L. Newton
Google images. I googled "buick steam train snow" and came up with the photo and the link to the page.
That site is like the Airliners.net of trains. Nice place.
563 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:25:42pm |
re: #527 Dianna
Sigh. Damn. Memory is now shot to hell too!
:)
564 | blackpajamas Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:26:00pm |
______ For Those About To Mock ______
Hello Denver! Look at you, you're a great crowd, really a-buzz and vibrant!
Kind of like gawkers at a dildo factory fire.
Hey, did you hear that Michael Jackson just died? Apparently his fans are very distraught.
It's going to be tough finding a two dozen kids to bear his coffin on short notice.
Anyway, speaking about the real tragedies of the day (and lifetime), how about a round, salvo, and barrage for our "heros", those sacred servants of self-service, the American politician!
What's the difference between a politician and a fire hydrant?
Dog's won't sniff a politician before they urinate on them.
Why did the politician bounce so high after he was thrown from the state house roof?
He hit a taxpayer's check book.
Speaking of block-busters, did you hear about the new movie where zombies roam the earth indiscriminately delivering campaign junk mail?
Current Resident Evil.
And now checking in with the Department of Monumental Stupidity, Liberals in San Francisco campaigned to name a sewage plant after George Bush.
Now Congress wants to rename the them all over the country; to tax shelters.
Speaking of relief, how many cigarettes can the Congress of Baboons smoke in one day?
It depends on how many blind folds you bring.
John Wayne, Bruce Lee, Clint Eastwood, and Barney Frank are seated together in an airplane.
The intercom crackles, "Folks, this is your pilot speaking, we might need to evacuate the plane, please stay calm."
While the passengers start to panic, John Wayne pulls out a cigar, asks folks for a light, and grins his teeth at the earth below.
Bruce Lee enters a calm meditative state, exclaiming, "The best parachute in life is self reliance and responsibility, I don't need a nicotine crutch, or to beg others for fire".
Barney Frank jumps out of his seat, stomping up and down the aisles screaming, "Give me all your money, all your money now! We can weave parachutes!".
Clint Eastwood just calmly starts whistling. The other passengers turn to him, "How can you be so calm at a time like this?"
Clint Eastwood squints into the sun, and replies, you should see him after we take off.
Thank you Denver! Please tip your webmaster until your credit card bills says, "One taxpayer at a time!".
(Love the veal, love the veal, and fruit cup *Nom, nom, nom, nom ...*)
565 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:26:11pm |
re: #558 ArchangelMichael
Alex Jones: The Council on Foreign Relations had an MJ-12 operative put a sekrit toxin in his Jesus Juice to induce a heart attack.
/TROOF!
LOL, but Jones is loopy enough to say something like that.
566 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:26:53pm |
re: #565 Dark_Falcon
LOL, but Jones is loopy enough to say something like that.
First line:
"I question the timing."
//
568 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:27:50pm |
570 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:28:02pm |
re: #529 Dianna
No, I think it was Ed McMahon, Farrah and MJ.
Don't know yet where to put Carridine's death. That or even the old "celebrity deaths come in three's" has been inflated by Obama to four!
571 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:28:28pm |
572 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:28:30pm |
re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee
Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?
....Never(land) Again.....
573 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:28:47pm |
re: #570 realwest
No, I think it was Ed McMahon, Farrah and MJ.
Don't know yet where to put Carridine's death. That or even the old "celebrity deaths come in three's" has been inflated by Obama to four!
Sounds good. I'll tell my brother that.
574 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:29:13pm |
Well, it's been virtual, to bed, my work week starts tomorrow, my "weekend" is over. Bye. I stop in off and on between shows. Avanti, work on that Karma, it's almost in the black (maybe Obama should take some advice from you) and Lazardo, stay away from the wacky weed, and Dark_Falcon, smother KT with satire and love, and HH, love ya.
All.
575 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:29:26pm |
re: #570 realwest
No, I think it was Ed McMahon, Farrah and MJ.
Don't know yet where to put Carridine's death. That or even the old "celebrity deaths come in three's" has been inflated by Obama to four!
He can alter the rules as he wishes, for he is The One!
/sarc
576 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:29:26pm |
re: #571 Dark_Falcon
Reply; Mr. Jones, I question your sanity.
Better check and see the mercury content of Demerol.
//
577 | blackpajamas Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:30:44pm |
re: #569 Dark_Falcon
LMAO! Superlatively good!
Well, I'm glad you liked it.
(I think I might need to go repent now for the Michael Jackson joke).
578 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:30:52pm |
re: #566 Gus 802
First line:
"I question the timing."
//
I've lived in this town for twenty years and have never seen that nudnick. I think he spends most of his time in a basement dreaming up Bilderbergers.
580 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:31:17pm |
David Carridine could be grouped with Koko Taylor and Kenny Rankin.
582 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:31:34pm |
re: #574 Walter L. Newton
Well, it's been virtual, to bed, my work week starts tomorrow, my "weekend" is over. Bye. I stop in off and on between shows. Avanti, work on that Karma, it's almost in the black (maybe Obama should take some advice from you) and Lazardo, stay away from the wacky weed, and Dark_Falcon, smother KT with satire and love, and HH, love ya.
All.
Wow, was that pimping for karma points or what LOL :)
583 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:32:29pm |
re: #553 Flyers1974
I do feel it messed with my brain a little - I remember being emotional for know apparent reason. And at some point I decided I'd go to the top even if it got dark which wasn't rational. In my case, I met my wife when she was coming down, so I turned around. But I can definitly see how someone at a higher altitude could start making really bad decisions.
We took our Sheltie up to the top of Pike's Peak once (in the car, of course). She was staggering a bit by the time we left to go back down.
Not sure if it afected her decision-making processes...
584 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:32:41pm |
re: #507 freetoken
The art of photography is the art of the visual lie.
Errol Morris has an excellent blog about photography, truth, and deception. Cool stuff.
[Link: morris.blogs.nytimes.com...]
585 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:32:46pm |
re: #578 austin_blue
I've lived in this town for twenty years and have never seen that nudnick. I think he spends most of his time in a basement dreaming up Bilderbergers.
That's only because Illuminatis can see Bilderbergers.
Or is that the other way around?
/
587 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:33:05pm |
I hate it when the screen suddenly goes black and the computer shuts down.
Brownouts. The high temp today in Houston was 102.
588 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:33:41pm |
re: #585 Gus 802
That's only because Illuminatis can see Bilderbergers.
Or is that the other way around?
/
Ack! That way lies madness!
589 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:33:49pm |
re: #536 HoosierHoops
Shoot. Well give me a few minutes here Hoops. But I'd think Malone would go in at forward, Clyde Frazier at Guard, Willis Reed at Center and either "Earl the pearl Monroe"* or John Stockton at guard. Or maybe Bob Couzy.
* I helped the Knicks management negotiate Pearl's contract, so I might be prejudiced there!
And shoot, between us, we have only 10 or 11 of the top 50 NBA players of all time.
590 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:34:10pm |
re: #580 solomonpanting
David Carridine could be grouped with Koko Taylor and Kenny Rankin.
Thank you.
So it's David Carridine, Koko Taylor and Kenny Rankin; then we list the next triplet as Ed McMahon, Farah Fawcett and Michael Jackson?
591 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:34:14pm |
re: #553 Flyers1974
What's the altitude of LaPaz, Bolivia? This could explain why Evo Morales was elected....
592 | legalpad Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:35:03pm |
re: #587 jaunte
I hate it when the screen suddenly goes black and the computer shuts down.
Brownouts. The high temp today in Houston was 102.
What part of Houston are you in?
593 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:35:47pm |
Well, well, well,
It seems our local admitted felony and congress critter, one Baghdad Jim McDimwitt has been getting preferential tax treatment.
Are wealthy politicians paying their "fair share"
A listener sent me a tip about a piece of property owned by congressman Jim McDermott. A 9 1/2 acre view parcel that overlooks Maury Island. The tipster said the congressman says the congressman paid $495,000 for the property. That is confirmed by this review of King County sales recordsThe only time we are certain what the value of a property is is when that property sells. It is worth what someone is willing to pay.
And yet a review of King County tax records for this parcel indicates that it is being assessed at about half of what Congressman McDermott paid for the parcel. $248,000 in 2007, $250,000 in 2008, and $250,000 in 2009.
My assessment went up again this year, despite the down turn in housing prices.
594 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:36:35pm |
re: #590 Dianna
I suppose.
Seems a bit morbid, though, comprising "groups" of those who have passed.
:(
595 | Opilio Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:36:39pm |
re: #581 lazardo
1 + 1 + 1 = 4.
/otherwise it's room 1-0-1.
I'm nearly certain that the Beatles said that one and one and one is three...
597 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:37:10pm |
re: #583 lobo91
I've read once you get past 13,000 and up every decision takes longer to make. I've never been that far up myself though.
599 | legalpad Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:39:43pm |
600 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:39:54pm |
re: #591 Fenway_Nation
What's the altitude of LaPaz, Bolivia? This could explain why Evo Morales was elected....
I had to google him to see who he is, completely forgot about him.
601 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:40:10pm |
re: #594 solomonpanting
I suppose.
Seems a bit morbid, though, comprising "groups" of those who have passed.
:(
I address superstitions, whether they are morbid or not.
Come to think of it, most superstitions are morbid.
602 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:40:41pm |
re: #599 legalpad
I came here from Venezuela, but I've been here a long time, living on the west side.
603 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:41:41pm |
re: #580 solomonpanting
David Carridine could be grouped with Koko Taylor and Kenny Rankin.
Oh just great, memory's really shot now, who the heck was Koko Taylor?
604 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:42:14pm |
re: #587 jaunte
I hate it when the screen suddenly goes black and the computer shuts down.
Brownouts. The high temp today in Houston was 102.
106 today in Austin. Projecting the same tomorrow. 105 yesterday. Brutal. Heat indexes well above 110.
605 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:42:22pm |
re: #597 Flyers1974
I've read once you get past 13,000 and up every decision takes longer to make. I've never been that far up myself though.
I have to wonder about the people who work up there. There's a gift shop/snack bar and a weather station on top of the mountain.
606 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:42:42pm |
re: #604 austin_blue
This is when Barton Springs really comes in handy.
608 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:42:56pm |
re: #593 jcm
Unfortunately, SSDD, for our elected officials.
Equality is NOT in their dictionary.
We are "the little people" to them.
610 | legalpad Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:43:28pm |
re: #604 austin_blue
106 today in Austin. Projecting the same tomorrow. 105 yesterday. Brutal. Heat indexes well above 110.
I worked 10 hrs in 112 degree weather at LBJ Library a few years back. I t was interesting.
611 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:43:58pm |
re: #608 Floral Giraffe
Unfortunately, SSDD, for our elected officials.
Equality is NOT in their dictionary.
We are "the little people" to them.
Ah, thank you for the clarification.
I just I misunderstood "spread the wealth."
612 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:44:33pm |
Hey look. Remember this from Zombie's blog a couple of weeks ago? It's on Fox now...
'Capitalism Will Fail,' Marijuana Leaf Part of California School Mosaic
613 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:44:44pm |
re: #609 Flyers1974
Sleep well, Flyers!
614 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:44:44pm |
re: #609 Flyers1974
Night! Don't let the altitude sickness bite!
615 | Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:44:45pm |
re: #605 lobo91
I guess thay get used to it, but I've heard you can develope altitude sickness at any time, no matter how used to it you are.
616 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:44:46pm |
re: #604 austin_blue
106 today in Austin. Projecting the same tomorrow. 105 yesterday. Brutal. Heat indexes well above 110.
It was around 100 today out at McGregorstan. Probably still in the upper 80s now that I'm back at my hotel in El Paso.
Fortunately, I'm switching to the night shift starting tomorrow.
617 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:45:54pm |
I may not be able to stay up late enough to see avanti move into positive territory, so here's the vid I found for him.
Tet, 1968. How the Newport News used her 3-inch guns to shell VC positions in Hue. Avanti's ship's contribution to one of Vietnam's bloodiest battles:
618 | Sambo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:46:19pm |
re: #593 jcm
I think McDermott is also the representative with the touchy secretary, Elizabeth Becton. Tough times in his office, I guess.
619 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:46:54pm |
re: #595 Opilio
I'm nearly certain that the Beatles said that one and one and one is three...
Hmmm. They definitely said the one after nine o' nine.
And one two three four five six seven, all good children go to heaven....
620 | reine.de.tout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:47:21pm |
re: #587 jaunte
I hate it when the screen suddenly goes black and the computer shuts down.
Brownouts. The high temp today in Houston was 102.
similar in Baton Rouge today.
It's been miserable, just miserable.
621 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:47:40pm |
re: #618 Sambo
I think McDermott is also the representative with the touchy secretary, Elizabeth Becton. Tough times in his office, I guess.
Yep, that the one. Maybe I should call Liz and ask about Jim Bo's property taxes, I sure could use a break.
622 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:49:23pm |
re: #593 jcm
Ah well, finally something I think I can speak authoritatively about!
In most place, real estate evaluation for real property taxes bears no resemblance at all to the real VALUE of the property.
For example, in NYC, homes are assessed (the real estate tax evaluation) currently at about 25% or so of Market Value. That's so the politicians can say "We're not going to raise your real estate taxes" meaning the percentage of tax won't go up. But they'll increase the assessed valuation so you do pay more in real property taxes and the politicians haven't really lied: the amount of tax per assessed valuation stays the same, it's just that the assessed valuation goes up, as does your tax bill!
623 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:49:35pm |
re: #616 lobo91
It was around 100 today out at McGregorstan. Probably still in the upper 80s now that I'm back at my hotel in El Paso.
Fortunately, I'm switching to the night shift starting tomorrow.
Dude, I would KILL for your humidity. The last few days have been like living in a convection oven. Also, the drought is so bad they are considering closing all the boat ramps on Lake Travis. Right now, the water is a 1/4 mile away from the asphalt.
624 | jaunte Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:50:57pm |
re: #620 reine.de.tout
I hope you're staying cool; I've been inside working until dark, so I don't feel it much.
Good night all.
625 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:51:59pm |
re: #607 solomonpanting
Thankew, thankew very much. But I never heard of her nor of her passing.
626 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:52:07pm |
I confess to sitting and listening to Weird Al parodies of MJ songs. Then we wandered off into pure Weird Al.
Ode to a Superhero, f'r instance.
627 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:53:15pm |
re: #620 reine.de.tout
Hi Reine, can I ask for the details of your dental issues? My nic is blue. I have 2 molars that had crowns & root canals & still do not feel right, after a year. And I am a major dental weenie......
629 | reine.de.tout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:54:27pm |
re: #627 Floral Giraffe
Hi Reine, can I ask for the details of your dental issues? My nic is blue. I have 2 molars that had crowns & root canals & still do not feel right, after a year. And I am a major dental weenie......
Just shot you an e-mail.
630 | MJ Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:54:42pm |
Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:
Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?
MEXICO CITY, Mexico (CNN) -- The United States may have been behind the killing of Neda Agha-Soltan, the 26-year-old Iranian woman whose fatal videotaped shooting Saturday made her a symbol of opposition to the June 12 presidential election results, the country's ambassador to Mexico said Thursday....
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
631 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:54:47pm |
re: #622 realwest
Howard Jarvis and his Proposition 13 stopped that, um, stuff, in California!
632 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:55:01pm |
re: #622 realwest
Ah well, finally something I think I can speak authoritatively about!
In most place, real estate evaluation for real property taxes bears no resemblance at all to the real VALUE of the property.
For example, in NYC, homes are assessed (the real estate tax evaluation) currently at about 25% or so of Market Value. That's so the politicians can say "We're not going to raise your real estate taxes" meaning the percentage of tax won't go up. But they'll increase the assessed valuation so you do pay more in real property taxes and the politicians haven't really lied: the amount of tax per assessed valuation stays the same, it's just that the assessed valuation goes up, as does your tax bill!
Add to the assessed value, every taxing district raises the amount the max every year.
My property market value has taken a 20% hit, my wife and I are on salary freezes, and my property taxes went up 13% this year on top of the increased assessment.
And fucking McDimwitt is paying taxes on 50% valuation.
Can you say I'm pissed and yeah, I'll call his assistant Liz, cause I pay her damn salary.
633 | avanti Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:56:12pm |
re: #617 Dark_Falcon
I may not be able to stay up late enough to see avanti move into positive territory, so here's the vid I found for him.
Tet, 1968. How the Newport News used her 3-inch guns to shell VC positions in Hue. Avanti's ship's contribution to one of Vietnam's bloodiest battles:
[Video]
Thanks, but it'll be tomorrow if I don't tick off too many Lizards, I need some sack time myself.
634 | solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:56:37pm |
re: #625 realwest
Thankew, thankew very much. But I never heard of her nor of her passing.
Admittedly, she did not possess the pop cultural fame of Carridine, but was influential in her own right.
635 | freetoken Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:57:02pm |
re: #548 realwest
Discovered after many attempts of my own... the lens can not accurately recreate the real... all we gather are shadows and reflections, the most fleeting whispers of that which exist.
/Plato - the original photographer!
636 | reine.de.tout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:57:11pm |
re: #630 MJ
Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:
Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
I went to the link and yup, they appear to "say" that. The part about this is what is being said by Iran's authorities is buried at the end of that first long sentence.
How damned ridiculous is that?
637 | legalpad Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:57:18pm |
re: #619 austin_blue
Hmmm. They definitely said the one after nine o' nine.
And one two three four five six seven, all good children go to heaven....
638 | lazardo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:57:25pm |
re: #630 MJ
IIIIIIIINNNNNNNNSAAAAAAAAAHD JAAAAAAAAAWB.
/since we all seem to be on a little Jones trip today
640 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:57:59pm |
re: #633 avanti
Thanks, but it'll be tomorrow if I don't tick off too many Lizards, I need some sack time myself.
I'm out. I've got a 6:30am wakeup tomorrow.
641 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:58:27pm |
642 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:58:29pm |
re: #633 avanti
Another upding, for serving on a grand ship with awesome firepower.
644 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:59:17pm |
re: #622 realwest
Ah well, finally something I think I can speak authoritatively about!
In most place, real estate evaluation for real property taxes bears no resemblance at all to the real VALUE of the property.
For example, in NYC, homes are assessed (the real estate tax evaluation) currently at about 25% or so of Market Value. That's so the politicians can say "We're not going to raise your real estate taxes" meaning the percentage of tax won't go up. But they'll increase the assessed valuation so you do pay more in real property taxes and the politicians haven't really lied: the amount of tax per assessed valuation stays the same, it's just that the assessed valuation goes up, as does your tax bill!
Another fun fact about property taxes is that in many jurisdictions, they set the mill levy rate after they decide how much money they need for the budget, in order to bring in the desired amount of revenue. Exactly the opposite of how the states do their budgets, where they decide how much to spend after seeing how much money they expect to collect in taxes.
Except for California, of course, where there's no connection between revenue and expenditures. Not sure who thought it was a good idea to allow a state to do deficit spending...
645 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:59:20pm |
re: #629 reine.de.tout
Greatly appreciated.
646 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:59:21pm |
re: #636 reine.de.tout
Riiiiiiiiiight....because even in the mullahs thugocracy, a sniper picking off an unarmed pedestrian is toatlly beyond the pale. Their weapon of choice against women are stones- and that's only after she's been buried up to her neck.
Fucking Caliphate News Network...
647 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:00:27pm |
re: #644 lobo91
Another fun fact about property taxes is that in many jurisdictions, they set the mill levy rate after they decide how much money they need for the budget, in order to bring in the desired amount of revenue. Exactly the opposite of how the states do their budgets, where they decide how much to spend after seeing how much money they expect to collect in taxes.
Except for California, of course, where there's no connection between revenue and expenditures. Not sure who thought it was a good idea to allow a state to do deficit spending...
Life,
Liberty,
Property (unless you fall behind on your taxes)
648 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:01:56pm |
re: #630 MJ
Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:
Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
You know, if the CIA was remotely near as effective and ubiquitous as moonbats think it is, there wouldn't be any problems left in the world of a foreign policy/national security nature.
649 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:02:29pm |
re: #631 Floral Giraffe
Well hell, no wonder y'all are on the brink of bankruptcy! In most places, school costs are put to a vote and in most places school costs come from property taxes.
So if Howard Jarvis had just kept his damn mouth shut, y'all woulda had HUGE increases in Taxes cause the politicians coulda said "We won't raise property taxes if you vote for this". So Kalifornia wouldn't be going bankrupt cause the government seems TOTALLY against any CUTS in government spending and the Taxpayers seem opposed to any increase in their taxes!
Or something like that.
Sorry to hear about your dental problems, btw but I can't really talk about dental problems right now!
650 | lobo91 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:02:45pm |
re: #630 MJ
Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:
Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
If the CIA was going to shoot someone in Iran, I would hope that it wouldn't be some random 26-year-old.
651 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:02:46pm |
re: #630 MJ
Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:
Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
Early a lizard linked a story out of Iran media it was a BBC reporter.
652 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:03:31pm |
re: #650 lobo91
If the CIA was going to shoot someone in Iran, I would hope that it wouldn't be some random 26-year-old.
Neda is resonating, around he world and in Iran.
A dead girl has he Mullahs scared.
653 | Sharmuta Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:04:02pm |
re: #630 MJ
Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:
Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
Not the first time the msm has repeated iranian propaganda. I'm sure it wont be the last.
654 | lazardo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:06:48pm |
re: #630 MJ
Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:
Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
I'd think that knowing that it was an Iranian government official saying this, just from the title alone would make readers assume that's what he'd be expected to say, and that not only was it the same stuff the Iranian government has "officially" put out but that only conspiracy kooks would swallow it.
/just sayin'.
//braces
655 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:07:02pm |
re: #653 Sharmuta
Huh....I thought the MSM thought we were the good guys now that the evil BusHaliburtonCheneyBechtelCo was out of office and they hand-picked cadidate went in.....
656 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:07:32pm |
re: #632 jcm
WHAT? Your property taxes AND your assessed valuation BOTH went up?!
I tells ya, Washington State politicians could learn something about taxation from NYC!
I am sorry to hear about that and the rule I ennunciated in my #622 isn't hard and fast. The year AFTER I got my last divorce and the former Mrs. Realwest owned our REALLY FINE condominum all by herself, Mayor Bloomberg raised the property taxes 19%, though he did leave assessed valuation where it was.
I am sorry - but, if I'm not prying, how come you AND your wife are on salary freezes?
657 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:09:29pm |
I Just got around to watching the video Charles linked to. What a cool tune. She was a very interesting voice. Nice.
660 | MrPaulRevere Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:10:55pm |
re: #612 Gus 802
Zombie mentioned earlier Fox was picking it up, and he/she was getting a check. Good for Zombie, who is a stellar talent.
661 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:10:56pm |
re: #649 realwest
{Realwest} If my dental issues were the worst thing this state had to face, it would be a good thing. The biggest problem is that most of the voters want everything, but they don't want to pay for it. THe math just doesn't work.
Hope you are doing well?
662 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:11:23pm |
re: #636 reine.de.tout
Hey reine! "How damned ridiculous is that?" Not at all for CNN, y'all should know that!
The effin CIA shot her. I mean, really. How can even CNN write an article that looks as if it's a journalistic piece when it's just a piece of shi garbage!
663 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:12:06pm |
re: #660 MrPaulRevere
Zombie mentioned earlier Fox was picking it up, and he/she was getting a check. Good for Zombie, who is a stellar talent.
Thanks, thought there might have been the chance that it was mentioned. Good that it was picked up.
664 | itellu3times Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:12:20pm |
re: #630 MJ
Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:
Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?
There they go again, taking credit for what the Mossad really did.
/
665 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:13:41pm |
re: #656 realwest
WHAT? Your property taxes AND your assessed valuation BOTH went up?!
I tells ya, Washington State politicians could learn something about taxation from NYC!
I am sorry to hear about that and the rule I ennunciated in my #622 isn't hard and fast. The year AFTER I got my last divorce and the former Mrs. Realwest owned our REALLY FINE condominum all by herself, Mayor Bloomberg raised the property taxes 19%, though he did leave assessed valuation where it was.
I am sorry - but, if I'm not prying, how come you AND your wife are on salary freezes?
Shh, don't tell 'em how NY does it.
My company just went through 10% layoffs, other in the industry had 30%. The CEO took a 20% pay cut, at my level no raise no promotion this year.
My wife is in the medical field, a physical terrorists (therapist she says). Therapy is getting cut.
We both have jobs, so can't complain much.
The tax increase stings, but McDimwitt getting 50% assessments?
666 | The Shadow Do Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:13:48pm |
re: #622 realwest
Ah well, finally something I think I can speak authoritatively about!
In most place, real estate evaluation for real property taxes bears no resemblance at all to the real VALUE of the property.
For example, in NYC, homes are assessed (the real estate tax evaluation) currently at about 25% or so of Market Value. That's so the politicians can say "We're not going to raise your real estate taxes" meaning the percentage of tax won't go up. But they'll increase the assessed valuation so you do pay more in real property taxes and the politicians haven't really lied: the amount of tax per assessed valuation stays the same, it's just that the assessed valuation goes up, as does your tax bill!
Just so, Real. Every year, for the last 10 or so years, I have disputed the valuation. Does not take long to collect the data to take to the hearing. I have won every time but it is clear that I am one of a very few who even bother to dispute the valuation and just go ahead and pay the taxes.
667 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:14:13pm |
re: #660 MrPaulRevere
Zombie mentioned earlier Fox was picking it up, and he/she was getting a check. Good for Zombie, who is a stellar talent.
That means someone at Fox has to know his/her identity. They cant exactly write "Zombie" on the check unless it's a registered DBA.
/watchoutitsamobynetwork
/tinfoilhat
668 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:14:27pm |
re: #664 itellu3times
There they go again, taking credit for what the Mossad really did.
/
If the Mossad did it, they'd have a picture of Dinnerjacket doing it......
////
669 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:14:36pm |
Huh. Didn't Fox do the same thing with Mark Foley?
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
(Granted, the source is suspect, but that graph doesn't lie. That is most definitely a D nest to his name.)
670 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:14:59pm |
re: #642 jcm
I'm confused. 3" guns aren't really big and since the video didn't show the guns shooting, I figured that was their main armament on the Newport News?
So sue me, I'm an ex-grunt and don't know much about Navy shit..........cept for that ocassionally lovely close in air support from Navy and Marine Corps pilots!
671 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:15:15pm |
re: #669 austin_blue
Huh. Didn't Fox do the same thing with Mark Foley?
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
(Granted, the source is suspect, but that graph doesn't lie. That is most definitely a D nest to his name.)
Next. PIMF
672 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:16:03pm |
673 | Sambo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:16:54pm |
re: #665 jcm
I live in King Co. I think I heard that some performance audits were canceled because Ron Sim's administration was such a disaster. Good thing Obama scooped him up. And isn't King County something like $70M in the hole?
674 | itellu3times Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:17:09pm |
btw, what with this "it happens in threes" that I was hawking a few hours ago regarding ed, farrah, and MJ ... so what about David Carridine, what is he, chopped liver?
Most be global warming.
675 | MJ Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:17:48pm |
re: #654 lazardo
I'd think that knowing that it was an Iranian government official saying this, just from the title alone would make readers assume that's what he'd be expected to say, and that not only was it the same stuff the Iranian government has "officially" put out but that only conspiracy kooks would swallow it.
/just sayin'.
//braces
The article doesn't hint at the slightest amount of skepticism to that outrageous claim. CNN exhibited more skepticism whenever Bush gave a speech then they exhibit in that article.
No mention of the Basij or the fact that hundreds of protesters were killed.
676 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:18:28pm |
re: #669 austin_blue
Huh. Didn't Fox do the same thing with Mark Foley?
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
(Granted, the source is suspect, but that graph doesn't lie. That is most definitely a D nest to his name.)
I think, but it might have been fauxtoshopped screencaps, that Fox also reported that the Space Shuttle Columbia broke up over Texas while going 18 times the speed of light.
677 | MrPaulRevere Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:18:31pm |
Speaking of Zombie, perhaps this is why California is in trouble... [Link: www.zombietime.com...]
678 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:19:00pm |
re: #670 realwest
I'm confused. 3" guns aren't really big and since the video didn't show the guns shooting, I figured that was their main armament on the Newport News?
So sue me, I'm an ex-grunt and don't know much about Navy shit..........cept for that ocassionally lovely close in air support from Navy and Marine Corps pilots!
8" guns, fully cased ammo, not like the bags for the big 16" guns. Each gun could fire 20 rounds per minute. 9 guns, 180 rounds a minute total.
The Des Moines class heavy cruisers could put more weight on a target faster than a Iowa class battleship.
679 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:19:35pm |
re: #644 lobo91
Another fun fact about property taxes is that in many jurisdictions, they set the mill levy rate after they decide how much money they need for the budget, in order to bring in the desired amount of revenue. Exactly the opposite of how the states do their budgets, where they decide how much to spend after seeing how much money they expect to collect in taxes. This is true in most -I'd guess 90% - of tax districts.
Except for California, of course, where there's no connection between revenue and expenditures. Not sure who thought it was a good idea to allow a state to do deficit spending...
Nancy Pelosi and Henry Waxman - who else?!?
680 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:19:52pm |
2 teens charged in pit bull burning held on unrelated charges
Two twin teenage brothers charged as juveniles with killing a pit bull by pouring gasoline on the animal and setting it on fire are being held without bail on new adult charges after police said they raided their Southwest Baltimore rowhouse and found guns and marijuana inside.
Brutal story, but the last paragraph....
Charles Johnson, the twins' 75-year-old father, said on Thursday that his sons "did not burn anybody's dog. They weren't even there. Some dollar-hungry person wanted the money and put it on my boys."
681 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:20:04pm |
re: #677 MrPaulRevere
Speaking of Zombie, perhaps this is why California is in trouble... [Link: www.zombietime.com...]
Looks like its time for the owner to renew the registration.
683 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:21:13pm |
re: #670 realwest
I'm confused. 3" guns aren't really big and since the video didn't show the guns shooting, I figured that was their main armament on the Newport News?
So sue me, I'm an ex-grunt and don't know much about Navy shit..........cept for that ocassionally lovely close in air support from Navy and Marine Corps pilots!
Last of the big old heavy WW-2 cruisers.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
9 X 8", 12 X 5", and 12 X 3' guns. That's a lot of juice.
684 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:21:19pm |
re: #673 Sambo
I live in King Co. I think I heard that some performance audits were canceled because Ron Sim's administration was such a disaster. Good thing Obama scooped him up. And isn't King County something like $70M in the hole?
The legislature cut Brian Sonntag's audit budget this year. Despite the fact he's saving more money than the audits costs. He's a Democrat but one I've voted for for years.
Sim's left a disaster in his wake.
685 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:23:47pm |
re: #676 ArchangelMichael
I think, but it might have been fauxtoshopped screencaps, that Fox also reported that the Space Shuttle Columbia broke up over Texas while going 18 times the speed of light.
I canna do it Captain Kirk! I haven't got the power!
686 | Cheechako Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:24:28pm |
Ya gotta' love them government rule makers. A couple of months ago the government issued a rule requiring all meat and vegetables to be labeled with a country of origin. I was in the supermarket this afternoon and looked at a 1 pound chub of hamburger. The display had the following label: "This product is from the United States, Canada, Mexico, Australia, or New Zealand." I guess all bases are covered.
687 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:25:40pm |
re: #646 Fenway_Nation
Riiiiiiiiiight....because even in the mullahs thugocracy, a sniper picking off an unarmed pedestrian is toatlly beyond the pale. Their weapon of choice against women are stones- and that's only after she's been buried up to her neck.
Fucking Caliphate News Network...
I updinged you for the sentiment my friend, but CNN has always been and will always be, for the foreseeable future the Communist News Network.
688 | Bob Dillon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:25:45pm |
re: #667 ArchangelMichael
That means someone at Fox has to know his/her identity. They cant exactly write "Zombie" on the check unless it's a registered DBA.
/watchoutitsamobynetwork
/tinfoilhat
Ah - there are several ways to Xfer $ and still be in compliance with the patriot act w/o the end user unknown.
689 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:26:16pm |
re: #686 Cheechako
Ya gotta' love them government rule makers. A couple of months ago the government issued a rule requiring all meat and vegetables to be labeled with a country of origin. I was in the supermarket this afternoon and looked at a 1 pound chub of hamburger. The display had the following label: "This product is from the United States, Canada, Mexico, Australia, or New Zealand." I guess all bases are covered.
The cows are gathering......
690 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:26:48pm |
re: #677 MrPaulRevere
Speaking of Zombie, perhaps this is why California is in trouble... [Link: www.zombietime.com...]
Maybe he or she can finally trade in the VW bug for a good old fashioned "Marxist" Trabant.
692 | MrPaulRevere Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:28:27pm |
RIP Michael Jackson. He was a stellar talent in his youth.
693 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:29:01pm |
695 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:29:59pm |
re: #661 Floral Giraffe
Yeah, about as well as I can expect to be doing with this pounding pain in left lower jaw line.
How are you all holding on {Floral Giraffe}? And what seems to be wrong with the molar crowns - still don't feel right after a year? Are they too high do you think?
697 | NY Nana Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:32:06pm |
G'nite, all.
I am trying to go to sleep now, as daughter is taking the almost-3 year old toddler grandson to Ohio (flying out early in the AM) to visit friends, who moved from Brooklyn to Columbus about 8 months ago, as the husband got a job. As son in law is filming this weekend, they thought it was a good time for daughter and said bandit toddler to go.
I will not exhale till they get back on Monday night!
/And who says Jewish mothers always worry?
From my experience? All mothers worry, no matter how old their kids are...and my 'baby' is in his mid-30's, and the other 3 are in their 40's.
Sweet dreams! Damn. Anyone got a method of falling asleep until they get back? It is the small person's first flight.
698 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:32:27pm |
700 | Noam Sayin' Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:32:44pm |
re: #521 realwest
HEY NOAM! How are ya buddy! Didja get my e-mail about maybe changing your avatar to that photo?!
The resolution's too high on those. I don't know how to change that.
Sorry for the late reply. I went to bed.
701 | ShanghaiEd Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:32:47pm |
re: #669 austin_blue
Austin: Yes, FOX did label Mark Foley with a (D) when his shit hit the fan.
This afternoon, FOX apologized for mis-labeling Gov. Sanford...
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
702 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:34:23pm |
re: #665 jcm
Damn jcm, I am sorry for you and your wife and of course you're right - Jim nowits ought to be exposed - think of the potential repercussions JUST among folk situated the way you two are?!
GODDAMNED POLITICIANS WORK FOR US, WE PAY THEIR SALARIES AND THEY THINK IT GIVES 'EM A LICENSE TO STEAL!
703 | pink freud Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:34:40pm |
Children.
Obey, Waters in noisy floor fight
Two Democrats got into a verbal altercation — and according to one a physical one — on the floor of the House on Thursday night over an appropriations earmark one was seeking.
After the House floor had largely cleared following a series of votes, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) and Appropriations Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.) split apart from a heated conversation and began yelling at one another.
“You’re out of line,” Waters shot while walking down toward the well.
“You’re out of line,” Obey shot back before turning and walking away.
But then Obey stopped, turned back toward Waters, and shouted: “I’m not going to approve that earmark!”
Obey turned away, but Waters went to go huddle with members of the Congressional Black Caucus. She could be over heard telling them: “He touched me first.”
704 | Bob Dillon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:35:19pm |
re: #697 NY Nana
Count them jumping happily over a fence ... you know the rest - nite Nana, sleep well.
705 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:35:28pm |
re: #698 ArchangelMichael
If she lived in the DDR in the 80s she wouldn't look like that. You cant if you shave your legs with a hammer and a sickle.
Indeed. To be honest these people that think "Marxism is the ticket" have forgotten about both history and the reality of communism. But I know I'm expecting them to think clearly which is not in the cards with the tin foil hat contingent.
706 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:36:04pm |
re: #666 The Shadow Do
Yep. I updinged you for being one of the few folks who know how to bring a tax certiori proceeding (it's really SO EASY TO DO!). Good for you!
707 | freetoken Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:37:21pm |
re: #686 Cheechako
That must be the new "Pacific Blend" variety of hamburger.
/Remember, hamburger is just grounded bovine... a few bits from here, a few bits from there...
708 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:37:34pm |
re: #702 realwest
Damn jcm, I am sorry for you and your wife and of course you're right - Jim nowits ought to be exposed - think of the potential repercussions JUST among folk situated the way you two are?!
GODDAMNED POLITICIANS WORK FOR US, WE PAY THEIR SALARIES AND THEY THINK IT GIVES 'EM A LICENSE TO STEAL!
Real,
We got it good, I've got no room to be complanin'.
Maybe this thing with Jimbo will wake a few more folks up.
709 | Bob Dillon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:37:40pm |
re: #703 pink freud
We are so screwed with idiots like this representing us - and I'm from CA.
710 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:37:53pm |
re: #703 pink freud
A huddle with the CBC? Are they for real? Do they actually have cliques like that in congress?
711 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:38:39pm |
re: #667 ArchangelMichael
Not necessarily - he or she coulda (and I hope did) set up a "blind" corporation and that's who the check was made payable to. Coulda used any first name for conversation or writing purposes; as long as the payment goes to the Corp., it'll make it MUCH harder to track down who the real zombie is.
712 | pink freud Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:38:43pm |
re: #710 Gus 802
A huddle with the CBC? Are they for real? Do they actually have cliques like that in congress?
CBC is pure racism. It should be disbanded.
713 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:38:50pm |
re: #669 austin_blue
Huh. Didn't Fox do the same thing with Mark Foley?
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
(Granted, the source is suspect, but that graph doesn't lie. That is most definitely a D nest to his name.)
It's also been done with Lincoln Chafee and Daniel Crane, too.
(yes, it's media matters, but poke around and they've got the videos and screenshots)
From 2006:
714 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:39:00pm |
Welcome to the Peoples Democratic Union of America. Coming up next, senator gets into fight and huddles with other members of the Congressional Vegan Caucus.
//
715 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:39:35pm |
re: #695 realwest
Lower right for me #30 & 31 IIRC. It's just not comfortable. I don't love the dentist. I'll let you know, if/When the pain goes away. Dianna's been a dear, helping with advice.
716 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:40:02pm |
re: #712 pink freud
CBC is pure racism. It should be disbanded.
Indeed. But I'm sure the enjoy the intimidation factor it possesses.
717 | MJ Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:40:49pm |
Good riddance:
Khaled Hussein, Who Helped Hijackers, Dies at 73
ROME (AP) — Khaled Hussein, a Palestinian who helped plan the 1985 hijacking of the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro, during which an American passenger was killed, died early Monday in a jail in Benevento, near Naples. He was 73.
The cause was a heart attack, said his lawyer, Sandro Clementi....
..Four Palestinian militants hijacked the cruise ship off the Egyptian coast, killing the American, Leon Klinghoffer, an elderly Jewish man from New York, who was shot and pushed into the sea in his wheelchair.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
718 | pink freud Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:40:59pm |
Why sure they do. But that sort of thing is now acceptable, no?
719 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:42:15pm |
re: #665 jcm HEY, seriously, listen up - y'all can bring what's called a Tax Certeriori proceeding - bring along your last three years assessments and taxes and demand that they lower your current taxes based upon a faulty assessment of your house. Really.
E-mail me if you want to and I can hold your hand through the entire process if you'd like. And something like 80% of taxpayers WIN.
Seriously amigo, e-mail me and tomorrow, when I'm awake but before 11:00 AM your time, I'll get back to you on this!
720 | austin_blue Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:42:25pm |
re: #713 iceweasel
It's also been done with Lincoln Chafee and Daniel Crane, too.
(yes, it's media matters, but poke around and they've got the videos and screenshots)
From 2006:
That can't be an accident. What do they expect that to do? I mean, this guy was being touted as a Presidential hopeful in '12 for the R's.
721 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:43:51pm |
Night Honcos,
Ya'll have kept me up late!
;-P
"No political truth is certainly of greater intrinsic value, or is stamped with the authority of more enlightened patrons of liberty than that on which the objection is founded. The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
James Madison 1788 - Federalist No. 48
722 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:43:51pm |
re: #720 austin_blue
That can't be an accident. What do they expect that to do? I mean, this guy was being touted as a Presidential hopeful in '12 for the R's.
I can buy that this sort of thing happens accidentally from time to time-- but it looks damned odd that Fox keeps doing it, and to Rep politicians when they're getting negative coverage.
723 | jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:44:10pm |
re: #719 realwest
HEY, seriously, listen up - y'all can bring what's called a Tax Certeriori proceeding - bring along your last three years assessments and taxes and demand that they lower your current taxes based upon a faulty assessment of your house. Really.
E-mail me if you want to and I can hold your hand through the entire process if you'd like. And something like 80% of taxpayers WIN.
Seriously amigo, e-mail me and tomorrow, when I'm awake but before 11:00 AM your time, I'll get back to you on this!
Will do RW, thanks, goodnight.
724 | Bob Dillon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:44:38pm |
re: #710 Gus 802
A huddle with the CBC? Are they for real? Do they actually have cliques like that in congress?
My mother (well connected) arranged a private tour for me of the halls of congress and the Capitol back in the 70s. - It was awe inspiring until I was taken into the "Cloak Room" - "This is where the "deals" are made" - my heart bottomed out - I have never trusted the government since.
725 | MrPaulRevere Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:45:17pm |
"War veterans salute during a ceremony to mark the 59th anniversary of the 1950-53 Korean War and denounce North Korea's nuclear programs at Changchung Gymnasium in Seoul, South Korea, Thursday, June 25, 2009". These ole' boys look like they could still get the job done... [Link: www.breitbart.com...]
726 | Dianna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:45:33pm |
Good night, and thank you all for keeping me well entertained this evening.
728 | Bob Dillon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:47:32pm |
re: #719 realwest
A call to your tax accessor may do something like that but this would be revolutionary. Good on ya RW.
729 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:47:34pm |
re: #724 Bobibutu
My mother (well connected) arranged a private tour for me of the halls of congress and the Capitol back in the 70s. - It was awe inspiring until I was taken into the "Cloak Room" - "This is where the "deals" are made" - my heart bottomed out - I have never trusted the government since.
A seamy display no doubt. Politics is a sordid affair. The current congress is a circus.
730 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:48:42pm |
re: #720 austin_blue
That can't be an accident. What do they expect that to do? I mean, this guy was being touted as a Presidential hopeful in '12 for the R's.
Also, check out this non-apology from an O'Reilly spokesperson in re: mislabelling Foley:
O'Reilly Factor executive producer David Tabacoff told Editor & Publisher on October 5 that the mislabeling was "an honest mistake." The magazine also reported that Tabacoff said the show, in the magazine's words, "didn't feel it was necessary to run a specific on-air correction" the next day because " 'everyone knows' Foley ... is a Republican."
Uh, if "everyone knows" that Foley is a Republican, doesn't that make it even stranger that O'Reilly's show and other Fox news shows repeatedly labelled him a Dem and no one there caught it? (it wasn't just the one time, it was several times over the course of the news cycle)
It's just odd.
731 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:49:29pm |
re: #722 iceweasel
I can buy that this sort of thing happens accidentally from time to time-- but it looks damned odd that Fox keeps doing it, and to Rep politicians when they're getting negative coverage.
Never attribute to malice what complete and utter ignorance or stupidity can explain. (See my #676)
732 | pink freud Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:49:52pm |
This new congressman, Joseph Cao, from New Orleans, is worth a look. He's showing some backbone. This is the gentleman who unseated that other CBC member, William *Freezer* Jefferson, in a majority Dem district in New Orleans. He has shown the fortitude to tell HeWhoShallNotBeDenied, *NO*.
733 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:50:08pm |
re: #730 iceweasel
Wow...thank you for showing me the inherent right-wing, pro-Republican bias that's so pervasive in this nation's media outlet...
//
734 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:50:30pm |
re: #700 Noam Sayin'
You went to bed and got up just to answer a question from ME?
Wow, love ya Noam *nooggies*!
Now go on back to bed, y'all need your sleep!
735 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:51:05pm |
736 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:51:44pm |
re: #735 Fenway_Nation
What is Freezer Jefferson up to these days?
Just Chilling?
I think he's on ice.
737 | Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:51:57pm |
re: #604 austin_blue
106 today in Austin. Projecting the same tomorrow. 105 yesterday. Brutal. Heat indexes well above 110.
I unloaded boxes out of trailer trucks in 102 today. First day of a new job. The job was fine, it's my physique that's the problem.
It was HOT. Damned near passed out at one point. The good news is that I survived most of the first day - I did have to stop early because my body was no longer obeying orders to work on pace. The bad news is that I have to go back in Saturday (hate working on the Sabbath, even though I'm not Jewish) to work seven trucks and the temperature will be 103.
That's what I get for working office/non-physical jobs for the last five years, I guess.
And that's the last comment from me tonight, once the thread has more than 400 replies or so, it takes ages for my typing to show up in the window, and it always has errors.
738 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:52:46pm |
re: #709 Bobibutu
Hello my friend - uh, do y'all have to STAY in California?!
739 | pink freud Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:52:58pm |
re: #735 Fenway_Nation
What is Freezer Jefferson up to these days?
Just Chilling?
Fighting for his freedom. Ongoing now.
740 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:54:00pm |
re: #731 ArchangelMichael
Never attribute to malice what complete and utter ignorance or stupidity can explain. (See my #676)
You mean like the space shuttle that "landed at Andrews AFB?"
I've seen them mix up Ds and Rs before. You basically hand this stuff off to the "graphics guy."
741 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:55:01pm |
re: #713 iceweasel Whereas when a Dem transgresses in some way, the rest of the MSM never bother to give the person's party affiliation at all.
742 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:55:17pm |
Lizards areTHE BEST!
So, sleep tight, help another lizard tomorrow.
Bestest regards,
Floral Giraffe
(And Reine is very helpful)
743 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:55:32pm |
re: #740 Gus 802
You mean like the space shuttle that "landed at Andrews AFB?"
I've seen them mix up Ds and Rs before. You basically hand this stuff off to the "graphics guy."
Oh yes, CNN is no better. Fox is not alone in this crap.
744 | pink freud Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:56:11pm |
745 | Bob Dillon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:56:12pm |
re: #729 Gus 802
Yea. The place was empty. My Cap. Police guide took me where where the tourists aren't shown.
It's been a circus forever - and now, more than troublesome.
746 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:56:25pm |
747 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:56:26pm |
re: #743 ArchangelMichael
Oh yes, CNN is no better. Fox is not alone in this crap.
Yep. I caught that error on the space shuttle and that's a screen shot I took.
748 | MrPaulRevere Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:56:26pm |
Re: Mark Sanford, I watched his news conference yesterday live. He struck me as an oddball, an eccentric, just a little male intuition speaking. Good riddance.
749 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:57:39pm |
re: #741 realwest
Whereas when a Dem transgresses in some way, the rest of the MSM never bother to give the person's party affiliation at all.
I haven't noticed that. Will be more than happy to read any links or stats you have supporting that, though.
750 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:58:08pm |
re: #728 Bobibutu
Thanks but I didn't invent it - one of my law partners did!
Still and all, credit to one side, it is a must for everyone who feels they are paying way too high property taxes.
751 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:58:25pm |
re: #745 Bobibutu
Yea. The place was empty. My Cap. Police guide took me where where the tourists aren't shown.
It's been a circus forever - and now, more than troublesome.
They're over payed. Get amazing retirement benefits and health care. They also get dozens of other perks and they're basically there for self-preservation. Writing to your congressman these days is essentially like an adult writing to Santa Claus.
752 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:58:53pm |
re: #747 Gus 802
Yep. I caught that error on the space shuttle and that's a screen shot I took.
I actually found the 18 times the speed of light pic on my HD a few minutes ago. It wasn't Fox, it was CNN lol... oh well. I know Fox fucks up just as much.
753 | Bob Dillon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:59:12pm |
re: #738 realwest
Hello my friend - uh, do y'all have to STAY in California?!
I am thinking of a place in Mexico just now.
[Link: www.rmac.com...]
754 | pink freud Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:59:35pm |
755 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:59:58pm |
Here is where I saw it originally I think:
[Link: failblog.org...]
757 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:00:25pm |
re: #752 ArchangelMichael
I actually found the 18 times the speed of light pic on my HD a few minutes ago. It wasn't Fox, it was CNN lol... oh well. I know Fox fucks up just as much.
Is that a new speed record? What did they say was going 18x the speed of light -- the shuttle?
758 | realwest Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:01:01pm |
Well good night y'all - it's been real. I hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you down the road.
Good night, all.
759 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:01:21pm |
re: #755 ArchangelMichael
Here is where I saw it originally I think:
[Link: failblog.org...]
Nice! Damn that was a speed record. Can plasma even travel that fast?
760 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:01:53pm |
re: #748 MrPaulRevere
Re: Mark Sanford, I watched his news conference yesterday live. He struck me as an oddball, an eccentric, just a little male intuition speaking. Good riddance.
The shit is still coming down on him, too. Politico had a story a while ago that he's going to have to reimburse SC for some of the cost of an earlier trip he took to Argentina.
Also, the ticket he'd bought to Argentina was for a TEN day trip, not seven. Looks like he was planning on staying longer than he wanted to admit, when he made his 'confession'.
ALSO, he received word from the newspaper breaking the story that they were going to publish the email exchange he'd had with the woman. That was 2 hours before the (already scheduled) press conference.
I think there's a good chance that he had planned all the way up to that point to stick with the lame cover story of 'driving on the coast in Argentina'.
761 | Bob Dillon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:02:37pm |
re: #750 realwest
Thanks but I didn't invent it - one of my law partners did!
Still and all, credit to one side, it is a must for everyone who feels they are paying way too high property taxes.
Everyone is - lordy - we had Prop 13 way back when in CA - time for another revolt and bring these "public servants" to their knees - wishful thinking.
762 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:02:59pm |
re: #747 Gus 802
I like this one from your pics there:
[Link: img524.imageshack.us...]
Lunar Nazis.... I HATE Lunar Nazis.
763 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:04:02pm |
764 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:04:15pm |
re: #762 ArchangelMichael
I like this one from your pics there:
[Link: img524.imageshack.us...]
Lunar Nazis.... I HATE Lunar Nazis.
Hey, my screenshot is there under related.
765 | MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:05:43pm |
I'm having a hard time going to sleep. My dad told me tonight that the CAT scan showed Mom has a mass on one of her lungs. They're sticking a tube down tomorrow to do a biopsy or whatever. If it's cancer, they cannot operate. Also, she's now on a feeding tube because she aspirated food into her lungs.
766 | MrPaulRevere Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:06:38pm |
re: #760 iceweasel
Like Charles Krauthammer said, he basically committed political suicide. I'm not a choirboy and have committed my fair share of misbehavior. Having said that, his behavior was bizarre, to be charitable.
768 | Gus Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:07:50pm |
re: #765 MandyManners
I'm having a hard time going to sleep. My dad told me tonight that the CAT scan showed Mom has a mass on one of her lungs. They're sticking a tube down tomorrow to do a biopsy or whatever. If it's cancer, they cannot operate. Also, she's now on a feeding tube because she aspirated food into her lungs.
I'm sorry to hear that Mandy.
769 | Bob Dillon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:07:56pm |
re: #751 Gus 802
They're over payed. Get amazing retirement benefits and health care. They also get dozens of other perks and they're basically there for self-preservation. Writing to your congressman these days is essentially like an adult writing to Santa Claus.
I get responses from the dynamic duo from CA several weeks after (courteously) howling about bills coming up - right! Santa Claus.
My thots on that crap posted here would get me banned by the big dog.
770 | freetoken Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:07:59pm |
re: #765 MandyManners
Sorry to hear of the sad news. Wish you strength as you deal with all of this.
771 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:08:04pm |
re: #765 MandyManners
Mandy, I'm so sorry to hear that. I will keep you and your family in my thoughts.
772 | MrPaulRevere Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:08:41pm |
You and your mom are in my prayers Mandy. God bless.
773 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:09:16pm |
re: #765 MandyManners
I hope that it turns out to be nothing too serious, Mandy,,,
774 | Bob Dillon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:11:05pm |
re: #765 MandyManners
I'm having a hard time going to sleep. My dad told me tonight that the CAT scan showed Mom has a mass on one of her lungs. They're sticking a tube down tomorrow to do a biopsy or whatever. If it's cancer, they cannot operate. Also, she's now on a feeding tube because she aspirated food into her lungs.
Damn! Mandy - be with her if you can - you know that - and know that all good thots and blessings are with you and yours.
Letting go is tough.
775 | MJ Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:14:03pm |
re: #765 MandyManners
Sorry to hear that Mandy. The best to you and your family.
776 | Sambo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:15:12pm |
re: #765 MandyManners
I hope that you and the other members of your family will find some peace even during difficult times.
777 | MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:16:41pm |
Thank you all for your kind words and prayers.
I regretted my post right after I hit the submit button. I shouldn't dump. My mother's death has been a reality for a while but, it's about upon us and I'm scared. The Kid feels the tension and sadness and is acting out greatly. He wants to go see her but he doesn't need to see her like this, with that mask on and all those tubes and wires.
Again, thank you for your kind words and prayers. I'm gonna' see if I can't get some sleep.
778 | pink freud Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:17:03pm |
re: #763 iceweasel
Your link tells me who is behind Media Research Center. However, the link I provided to you provides stats from polls by Pew, Gallup, University of Connecticut, and American Journalism Review. The information looks helpful.
783 | Silvergirl Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:20:00pm |
re: #765 MandyManners
I wish you comfort in your heartache, Mandy.
784 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:21:38pm |
re: #778 pink freud
Your link tells me who is behind Media Research Center. However, the link I provided to you provides stats from polls by Pew, Gallup, University of Connecticut, and American Journalism Review. The information looks helpful.
My link mentions various controversies involving the MRC.
Your link has a pdf document; I will download it and check it out (although it can't be this second, I'm doing a few other things).
Thanks for posting it.
785 | Neutral President Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:23:59pm |
re: #777 MandyManners
There is no reason to regret that. I'm very sorry to hear about this, and I hope for the best for you and your family.
786 | Steffan Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:28:39am |
re: #777 MandyManners
Thank you all for your kind words and prayers.
I regretted my post right after I hit the submit button. I shouldn't dump. My mother's death has been a reality for a while but, it's about upon us and I'm scared. The Kid feels the tension and sadness and is acting out greatly. He wants to go see her but he doesn't need to see her like this, with that mask on and all those tubes and wires.
Again, thank you for your kind words and prayers. I'm gonna' see if I can't get some sleep.
Mandy,
I think I know what you might be going through now... my mother, my aunt, and my oldest sister died of cancer.
It's never pleasant. If there is anything I can do for you and yours, please let me know.
787 | beholden Fri, Jun 26, 2009 9:50:03am |
When I first listened to this song I thought it was strange and I didn't like it...now I've listned to it 10 times in a row and I think I'm in love with her.
Weird how we connect with music.