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1 DesertSage  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:20:52pm

Yay....music!

2 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:23:04pm

re: #1 DesertSage

Yay....music!

okay...I get it

3 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:24:26pm

Charles, I can't believe you like Spektor, after all those times she tried to kill James Bond.

4 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:24:31pm

Looks as though we haven't had our fill of Spektor.

5 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:25:04pm

the polish on her grand piano is otherworldly

6 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:25:51pm

Is that another polish joke?

7 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:25:51pm

re: #4 solomonpanting

Looks as though we haven't had our fill of Spektor.


mind control....

8 ArmyWife  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:26:58pm

re: #6 solomonpanting

Ought to be careful with such things as it may result in a shiner.

9 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:27:32pm

re: #3 Occasional Reader

That was evil mastermind Arlen Specter, wasn't it?

/

10 Danny  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:27:54pm

I love her music.

11 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:28:00pm

re: #8 ArmyWife

Ought to be careful with such things as it may result in a shiner.


Well, I am a bit buff.

12 MJ  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:28:06pm

Heard this last week on the radio here in Madison where she gave a concert.

Her voice reminds me of Joni Mitchell but with a Jewish sensibility.

13 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:29:04pm

That was nice.

14 centaur  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:29:52pm

This would sound great with a little upright bass, slow walking.

15 Blackacre  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:29:53pm

I heard this one on the radio for the first time just a few days ago. The lyrics are something else. Not the usual fare, for sure.

16 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:30:25pm

A woman I knew in my youth (I was the callow youth, she was the wise, kind, experienced woman) passed away this week.

I was grateful to have known her.

I was grateful for her example of dealing with the hard hand fate had dealt her.

She was an example to me in my youth, and I was better for it.

17 ArmyWife  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:30:46pm

re: #11 solomonpanting

beginning to wax poetic now, aren't we?

18 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:30:48pm

re: #14 centaur

This would sound great with a little upright bass, slow walking.


or a duet with Joe Walsh

19 ArmyWife  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:31:25pm

re: #16 EmmmieG

I am sorry for your loss.

20 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:32:01pm

Lord, '72 Cadillacs are shorter than that piano.
Nice voice.

21 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:32:41pm

re: #17 ArmyWife

You're good!

22 mineral  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:33:20pm

I posted a link to her song "Sampson" about a year ago here on LGF.

I felt foolish about it afterwards.

Now, two songs posted by Charles.

Redemption.

23 ArmyWife  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:36:00pm

re: #21 solomonpanting

So I'm told. ;)

24 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:36:21pm

redemption is a thread killer

25 mineral  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:36:56pm

re: #24 albusteve

Why?

26 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:37:25pm

re: #25 mineral

Why?

no one knows

27 ArmyWife  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:37:44pm

re: #26 albusteve

Mysterious though, isn't it?

28 mineral  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:38:11pm

re: #26 albusteve

Oh. In that case I'm OK.

29 ArmyWife  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:39:13pm

Do they know there is music upstairs? Those in the lounge, I mean.

30 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:39:17pm

re: #27 ArmyWife

Mysterious though, isn't it?

someone has the Answer...it is yet to be revealed

31 centaur  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:39:45pm

re: #18 albusteve

Tom Waits maybe.

32 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:40:46pm

re: #29 ArmyWife

Do they know there is music upstairs? Those in the lounge, I mean.


I'm on a barrowed machine...very slow, otherwise I'd be bombing the thread with music

33 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:41:21pm

re: #32 albusteve

I'm on a barrowed machine...very slow, otherwise I'd be bombing the thread with music

put the wheel back on

34 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:41:35pm

re: #31 centaur

Tom Waits maybe.

Tom Waits for no one....

35 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:42:51pm

re: #34 albusteve

Tom Waits for no one....

Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom is on your side

36 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:43:11pm

re: #33 OldLineTexan

put the wheel back on


doh!....half the keys don't work on this wreck...wheely

37 mineral  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:43:45pm

The video for this song is pretty neat.

38 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:44:07pm

re: #22 mineral

I posted a link to her song "Sampson" about a year ago here on LGF.

I felt foolish about it afterwards.

Now, two songs posted by Charles.

Redemption.

Don't ever feel foolish about posting any song. We have eclectic tastes here.

39 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:44:13pm

re: #16 EmmmieG

I'm sorry for your loss.

40 Silvergirl  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:44:38pm

I bought her Far MP3 when you featured it the other night, and though I liked it from the first sample, I'm loving it more and more with each play.

41 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:45:09pm

No one laughs at God when they're saying their goodbyes.

RIP Farrah.

42 mineral  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:45:14pm

Video for this song:

43 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:45:27pm

re: #1 DesertSage

Yay....music!

Yay... Sage!

44 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:46:07pm

This one is Mariah Carey, but this song of loss seems very appropriate today:

Bye Bye

45 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:46:18pm

Chambers Brothers...
take heed

46 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:48:13pm

re: #38 Racer X

Don't ever feel foolish about posting any song. We have eclectic tastes here.

which means half the music is awfull...hahaha!
funny no?

47 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:49:44pm

re: #46 albusteve

which means half the music is awfull...hahaha!
funny no?

Heh. Yes that was funny. But true.

Kidding!

/

48 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:51:49pm

Just heard this song a couple of days ago. It's great.

49 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:52:26pm

Ssshhh, don't tell Killgore: Twin Brothers Indicted in Mail Bombing of Arizona Diversity Office

PHOENIX — Twin brothers have been indicted in a 2004 mail bombing that injured the diversity director of the Arizona city of Scottsville.

Dennis and Daniel Mahon are charged with conspiracy to damage buildings and property by means of explosive, according to an indictment unsealed Thursday and filed June 16 in federal court.

The indictment says the brothers, who live in Illinois, intended to "promote racial discord" on behalf of the White Aryan Resistance.

The package detonated in Don Logan's hands on Feb. 26, 2004, in the city's Human Resources Complex. Logan oversaw diversity issues for city employees and citizens, including racial and sex discrimination. The blast injured Logan's hand and arm. A secretary also was injured, and both spent about a week in the hospital.

Authorities arrested the brothers in their Davis Junction, Illinois, home and say they had assault weapons, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and white supremacist material.

Authorities didn't know if the brothers had attorneys. There are no telephone numbers listed for Mahon in Davis Junction.

50 big steve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:54:09pm

I know this isn't a Michael Jackson thread but I am just catching up. During all those years of weirdness, I kept hoping that Michael would eventually pull a David Bowie and just wink once at us and tell us it was all an act. He never did. But whatever he became, man for some time he just had it......even today I cannot stop tapping my feet when "Billie Jean" comes on. I hope the world can just this once give the man some peace.

51 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:55:01pm

New Penn & Teller tonight on Showtime... starts at 7 pacific.

52 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:55:21pm

re: #49 doppelganglander

Ssshhh, don't tell Killgore: Twin Brothers Indicted in Mail Bombing of Arizona Diversity Office

You have to wonder about this. How come the bombing happened in 2004 and they're only being indicted now? And the bomb came from Illinois? Why did they pick the poor diversity director of a town in Arizona?

53 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:55:42pm

re: #51 Charles

New Penn & Teller tonight on Showtime... starts at 7 pacific.

I don't get Showtime. Grrrr.

54 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:56:21pm

re: #52 Dianna

You have to wonder about this. How come the bombing happened in 2004 and they're only being indicted now? And the bomb came from Illinois? Why did they pick the poor diversity director of a town in Arizona?

The weather was better?
/

55 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:56:49pm

re: #49 doppelganglander

BTW, do you remember reading anything about this? I don't.

56 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:57:09pm

re: #50 big steve

I know this isn't a Michael Jackson thread but I am just catching up. During all those years of weirdness, I kept hoping that Michael would eventually pull a David Bowie and just wink once at us and tell us it was all an act. He never did. But whatever he became, man for some time he just had it......even today I cannot stop tapping my feet when "Billie Jean" comes on. I hope the world can just this once give the man some peace.

the world did not deny him peace...he lived in a realm of his own making

57 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:57:43pm

re: #52 Dianna

You have to wonder about this. How come the bombing happened in 2004 and they're only being indicted now? And the bomb came from Illinois? Why did they pick the poor diversity director of a town in Arizona?


The delay in the indictment doesn't really surprise me, as it can take time to build a good forensic case. The rest, who knows?

As to your #55 (yay Spy!), I don't recall hearing anything about it at the time, but it may have not made national news. Maybe someone in Arizona remembers.

58 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:57:43pm

re: #54 Nevergiveup

That's as good an explanation as any.

Nasty little psychos.

59 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:58:40pm

re: #57 doppelganglander

I tend to remember stories about bombs. Bombs worry me.

60 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 6:59:26pm

re: #49 doppelganglander

Ssshhh, don't tell Killgore: Twin Brothers Indicted in Mail Bombing of Arizona Diversity Office

I hate Illinois Nazis.

61 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:00:48pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

I hate Illinois Nazis.

Well played.

62 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:01:06pm

I'm reading Television Tropes about the Mad Oracle. I like this. It makes me think, though, about how interesting it would be if we still had the knack of impromptu battle poetry.

63 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:01:44pm

re: #62 Dianna

I'm reading Television Tropes about the Mad Oracle. I like this. It makes me think, though, about how interesting it would be if we still had the knack of impromptu battle poetry.

We would if buzzsawmonkey got a commission.

64 mineral  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:01:46pm

Ok, I couldn't find it at youtube, but here is Regina Spektor's video of "Samson" that I posted a year ago or so.

I like it more than her new stuff. ;-)

Samson.

65 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:01:49pm

re: #4 solomonpanting

Just wait till you see her in all her different wigs. Freaky!

66 mineral  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:02:45pm

re: #62 Dianna

I know someone whose always talking about that stuff.

;-)

67 JPL17  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:02:46pm

I've been listening to Regina Spektor's "Far" since its release on Tuesday, and liking it more and more with each listen. It's brilliant, my favorite album of the year so far, even better than her last (which was also wonderful). Happy to see people picking up on her. Check out "Folding Chair"...a brilliant song, right up there with "Laughing With"....

P.S. I wasn't paid to say any of this.

68 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:03:24pm

Just to prove I haven't gone completely nuts, this is from the entry on the Mad Oracle:

The good news about this guy is that he can see the future. The bad news is that it turns out that seeing the future is not good for your mental health.

This is the bit that inspired my last sentence:

They tend to speak entirely in metaphor, riddles, and oblique poetry.
69 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:03:50pm

re: #67 JPL17

I've been listening to Regina Spektor's "Far" since its release on Tuesday, and liking it more and more with each listen. It's brilliant, my favorite album of the year so far, even better than her last (which was also wonderful). Happy to see people picking up on her. Check out "Folding Chair"...a brilliant song, right up there with "Laughing With"....

P.S. I wasn't paid to say any of this.

support your favorite artists

70 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:04:37pm

re: #63 doppelganglander

We would if buzzsawmonkey got a commission.

Well, it's true that the forms were pretty standard and known. Kennings and all that...Buzz would probably do brilliantly at it.

/Why, yes, I do read Icelandic Sagas. How did you know?

71 DesertSage  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:05:36pm

re: #43 Noam Sayin'

Yay... Sage!

Noam!

Where's the Mezcal?

:)

72 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:05:37pm

re: #56 albusteve

His abusive father bears a good deal of the responsibility for MJ's struggles.

73 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:06:06pm

Excuse me, I need to go soothe the Male. The cat just ditched the screws he needed to put some piece of tech back together.

74 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:06:09pm

re: #70 Dianna

Well, it's true that the forms were pretty standard and known. Kennings and all that...Buzz would probably do brilliantly at it.

/Why, yes, I do read Icelandic Sagas. How did you know?

I didn't, but I think it's kind of cool.

75 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:06:36pm

re: #71 DesertSage

Where's the Mezcal?

Umm... What Mezcal?

76 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:07:23pm

re: #72 Irenicum

His abusive father bears a good deal of the responsibility for MJ's struggles.

maybe...maybe bullshit...we'll never know now except second hand

77 John Neverbend  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:08:07pm

re: #51 Charles

Charles,

Have you ever played music with Pat Metheny?

78 DesertSage  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:08:46pm

re: #75 Noam Sayin'

Umm... What Mezcal?

You stole my Mezcal again, didn't you?

79 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:09:37pm

re: #78 DesertSage

You stole my Mezcal again, didn't you?

"Stole" is such a harsh word.

80 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:09:50pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

Truly one of the greatest moments in movie history!

81 ArmyWife  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:10:04pm

I think I'm going to go fire up the jacuzzi tub. Y'all have a great night - see you manana.

82 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:11:19pm

re: #77 John Neverbend

Charles,

Have you ever played music with Pat Metheny?

Three hours, three songs?

83 DesertSage  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:12:31pm

re: #79 Noam Sayin'

"Stole" is such a harsh word.

PBJ tried to get me a bottle of Mezcal last month...bless her little heart. :)

She couldn't find any though.

:(

84 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:12:31pm

re: #79 Noam Sayin'

"Stole" is such a harsh word.

And inaccurate. As far as verbs, "drank" is more likely.

85 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:12:55pm

re: #51 Charles

New Penn & Teller tonight on Showtime... starts at 7 pacific.

So far Penn has not yet said "And there's this asshole..."

I'm a little disappointed.

86 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:12:57pm

re: #73 Dianna

That cat is so screwed!

87 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:13:08pm

Have had this artist pop up on Pandora a few times, can't say she is my cup of tea. Now on the other hand, there is an artist named Jem who I've start listening to that sounds great IMO.

88 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:13:28pm

The cat is presently hanging out in the littlest room. I think this has something to do with the fact that three rubber feet and one screw are missing. And that my Male is swearing in German, Russian and what sounds like Arabic.

I understand the Russian; they all begin "mat-", which is a bad sign.

89 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:13:59pm

or rather "And then there's this asshole"

/I have PIMFitis.

90 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:14:19pm

With four picks in the first round, the Minnesota Timberwolves choose three point guards and a shooting guard. While Ricky Rubio is an excellent acquisition, they badly needed some height in the front court.

Either the new management has no idea what they're doing, or there's going to be a trade.

91 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:14:38pm

re: #80 Irenicum

Truly one of the greatest moments in movie history!

Yep, a true Chicago classic.

92 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:15:08pm

re: #90 Noam Sayin'

...not that anyone gave a rat's ass.

BRB

93 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:15:19pm

re: #76 albusteve

I'm not saying that MJ doesn't bear the responsibility for his own actions. He does. But knowing even a part of his background, I hafta think it would seriously mess with anybody's head. That makes me just a little more sympathetic to him.

94 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:15:45pm

re: #88 Dianna

The cat is presently hanging out in the littlest room. I think this has something to do with the fact that three rubber feet and one screw are missing. And that my Male is swearing in German, Russian and what sounds like Arabic.

I understand the Russian; they all begin "mat-", which is a bad sign.

What part(s) of you are missing 3 rubber feet and a screw? Is this something you can get at the doctors office or a Home Depot, or is it proprietary parts that you need to order from, well, who ever?

95 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:15:50pm

re: #90 Noam Sayin'

With four picks in the first round, the Minnesota Timberwolves choose three point guards and a shooting guard. While Ricky Rubio is an excellent acquisition, they badly needed some height in the front court.

Either the new management has no idea what they're doing, or there's going to be a trade.

From ESPN:
No, the Timberwolves aren't running a three-PG offense. They're moving Lawson to Denver for a future first-round pick. He'll be a really good backup for Chauncey Billups. He flies up and down the floor and is as steady as they come.

96 DesertSage  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:16:14pm

re: #90 Noam Sayin'

With four picks in the first round, the Minnesota Timberwolves choose three point guards and a shooting guard. While Ricky Rubio is an excellent acquisition, they badly needed some height in the front court.

Either the new management has no idea what they're doing, or there's going to be a trade.

I've got three words for you.....World Champion Lakers!

97 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:16:22pm

re: #88 Dianna

The cat is presently hanging out in the littlest room. I think this has something to do with the fact that three rubber feet and one screw are missing. And that my Male is swearing in German, Russian and what sounds like Arabic.

I understand the Russian; they all begin "mat-", which is a bad sign.

It means "mother"?

98 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:16:46pm

Well, since it's a music thread, why not.

Greg Howe Jammin' on Sunny

Chops.

99 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:16:54pm

re: #87 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

ah, no comment

100 John Neverbend  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:16:55pm

re: #82 Dianna

Three hours, three songs?

Eh?

101 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:17:58pm

re: #81 ArmyWife

Yeah, rub it in dontcha! Here I am all sweaty in a house with no a/c, no hot water for 6 days (we got flooded last Friday), and the roofers just left and it's after 10pm. But other than that, I'm doing great!

102 tradewind  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:19:07pm

re: #53 Dianna

You can watch it on your computer at the sho site, full episode, for free. Minimal commercial interruptions, less actually than on the broadcast. In a day or two, it should also be available on FanCast and/or Hulu.com

103 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:19:13pm

re: #93 Irenicum

I'm not saying that MJ doesn't bear the responsibility for his own actions. He does. But knowing even a part of his background, I hafta think it would seriously mess with anybody's head. That makes me just a little more sympathetic to him.


that's cool...I could care less what went on in his head...irrelevant in nmy world

104 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:19:25pm

re: #94 Walter L. Newton

What part(s) of you are missing 3 rubber feet and a screw? Is this something you can get at the doctors office or a Home Depot, or is it proprietary parts that you need to order from, well, who ever?

Oh, it's the laptop cooler thingy. He could, of course, go buy them. What's irritating him is that he'd neatly laid them out on a nice, clean sheet of paper on the sofa table while he cleaned the dog fur out of the fans. Then the cat leapt up onto the sofa table (where he is forbidden to be, and normally never goes, since the back of the sectional is the kitty super highway and he doesn't need to use the table) and batted. Screws and rubber feet vanished into the fourth dimension!

105 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:19:58pm

re: #97 MandyManners

It means "mother"?

Yes - all the really bad words in Russian begin with "mother."

Thus, the "mother oaths."

106 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:22:16pm

re: #104 Dianna

Oh, it's the laptop cooler thingy. He could, of course, go buy them. What's irritating him is that he'd neatly laid them out on a nice, clean sheet of paper on the sofa table while he cleaned the dog fur out of the fans. Then the cat leapt up onto the sofa table (where he is forbidden to be, and normally never goes, since the back of the sectional is the kitty super highway and he doesn't need to use the table) and batted. Screws and rubber feet vanished into the fourth dimension!

LOL (tell the male I'm sorry)

107 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:22:32pm

re: #100 John Neverbend

Eh?

I took my Male to a jazz concert once, and the comic who warmed up the audience joked about seeing Pat Metheny. "The show lasted three hours. Only three songs, but man! what a show!"

Considering that this actually made the entire audience (including me) laugh, I thought it was a known thing.

108 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:22:53pm

re: #87 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Jem... and the Holograms?

/80s

109 NelsFree  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:23:03pm

Watched the video. My thoughts:
She could be Al Stewart's Daughter.
I hope that her dress, which was terrifically long in back, does not get caught in a door, causing the entire dress to rip off. That would be just awful.
Is the Piano painted or CGI?
Pretty, except when she pulled her head off.
I think she pulled the skirt of her dress over her head to disappear at the end. I'd like to have dated a girl who thought she could do that. Once.
/That's it.

110 tradewind  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:23:21pm

re: #51 Charles

Penn and Teller taking on orgasms?
No wonder they call it Bullshiite.

111 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:23:42pm

re: #96 DesertSage

I've got three words for you.....World Champion Lakers!

(_%P%_)

112 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:27:55pm

Is this thing on?

Do I need to say something even sillier than I have already?

113 DesertSage  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:28:05pm

re: #111 Noam Sayin'

(_%P%_)

What the heck is that?

┌∩┐(◕_◕)

Okay, I'm not really flipping you off....you know you're my friend. :)

114 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:28:14pm

Here's some info on the dollars and cents cost to your electric bill from the proposed cap and trade bill and the likely public acceptance. The CBO pegs it as at $175/year by 2020.


cap and trade.

115 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:28:27pm

re: #109 NelsFree

Yes, absolutely awful. Now, where is that door again?

116 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:29:10pm

re: #113 DesertSage

I was mooning you.

117 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:29:55pm

re: #116 Noam Sayin'

I gotta remember that one!

118 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:31:23pm

re: #112 Dianna

Is this thing on?

Do I need to say something even sillier than I have already?

Oh, was that meant to be silly? Seemed totally normal to me, but I have 3 cats.

119 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:31:25pm

re: #114 avanti

Here's some info on the dollars and cents cost to your electric bill from the proposed cap and trade bill and the likely public acceptance. The CBO pegs it as at $175/year by 2020.


cap and trade.

these are estimates...like the 8.5 ceiling on unemployment before the Turnaround!....get a grip

120 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:32:26pm

re: #118 doppelganglander

Oh, was that meant to be silly? Seemed totally normal to me, but I have 3 cats.

I'm working on silly. I'm tired and a bit out of sorts. Silliness usually works well for me.

121 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:33:15pm

re: #119 albusteve

these are estimates...like the 8.5 ceiling on unemployment before the Turnaround!....get a grip

Dude, you're harshing my mellow.

/or my attempt at silliness. Or something.

122 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:33:17pm

$175 my ass.

123 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:34:09pm

re: #114 avanti

Here's some info on the dollars and cents cost to your electric bill from the proposed cap and trade bill and the likely public acceptance. The CBO pegs it as at $175/year by 2020.

cap and trade.

That's still too much by my standards. I say we hold off on the bill and try less command-and-control methods.

124 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:34:10pm

re: #120 Dianna

I'm working on silly. I'm tired and a bit out of sorts. Silliness usually works well for me.

Silly is good. The boys are still downstairs talking about military hardware, in which I have no expertise or interest.

125 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:34:10pm

re: #122 OldLineTexan

$175 my ass.

Same as downtown, huh?

126 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:34:17pm

re: #122 OldLineTexan

$175 my ass.

Is that an offer?

/

127 DesertSage  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:34:38pm

re: #116 Noam Sayin'

I was mooning you.

Mooning me?

⑉⑈⑇ ⑆⑆⑅⑄⑃⑂⑁⑀⑊⑉⑈⑇ ⑆⑆⑅⑄⑃⑂⑁⑀⑊⑉⑈⑇ ⑆⑆⑅⑄⑃⑂⑁⑀⑊⑉⑈⑇ ⑆⑆⑅⑄⑃⑂⑁⑀

128 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:34:41pm

re: #125 Noam Sayin'

Same as downtown, huh?

I admit, yours was better.

129 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:35:22pm

re: #124 doppelganglander

Silly is good. The boys are still downstairs talking about military hardware, in which I have no expertise or interest.

That's OK, there's fixin' to be a fight. Or at least some cussin'.

130 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:35:23pm

re: #121 Dianna

Dude, you're harshing my mellow.

/or my attempt at silliness. Or something.


mmm....I love harshmellows!

131 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:36:05pm

re: #125 Noam Sayin'

Same as downtown, huh?

Two shows on Sunday, Skippy. Now hurry up, there's a line.

132 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:36:06pm

re: #124 doppelganglander

Silly is good. The boys are still downstairs talking about military hardware, in which I have no expertise or interest.

Yeah, I can sort of keep up, but when my Male and his friend go on about it, the friend's wife pulls out soduku or sewing.

133 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:36:06pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

That's still too much by my standards. I say we hold off on the bill and try less command-and-control methods.

When is someone going to say, we're in the middle of the worst recession in 25 years. Now is not the time to spend money on the elusive benefits of cap and trade, a complete overhaul of health care, or anything else of dubious value and enormous paycheck.

134 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:36:17pm

re: #126 Occasional Reader

Is that an offer?

/


stiff

135 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:36:25pm

re: #130 albusteve

mmm....I love harshmellows!

Let's get her toasted.

/

136 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:36:46pm

re: #133 doppelganglander

When is someone going to say, we're in the middle of the worst recession in 25 years. Now is not the time to spend money on the elusive benefits of cap and trade, a complete overhaul of health care, or anything else of dubious value and enormous paycheck.

That should have been pricetag, not paycheck. I'm losing my English, which is weird because I'm a native speaker.

137 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:37:11pm

re: #133 doppelganglander

When is someone going to say, we're in the middle of the worst recession in 25 years. Now is not the time to spend money on the elusive benefits of cap and trade, a complete overhaul of health care, or anything else of dubious value and enormous paycheck.

You just said it. :)

138 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:37:20pm

Later lizards. Got to feed the doggies and then I'm out for the evening.

139 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:37:39pm

re: #135 OldLineTexan

Let's get her toasted.

/

I'm all for it!

140 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:38:23pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

You just said it. :)

Yes, and we all know how influential I am. :)

141 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:39:07pm

re: #119 albusteve

these are estimates...like the 8.5 ceiling on unemployment before the Turnaround!....get a grip

I know, both side love the CBO estimates when they fit their agenda, not so much when it does not. Why we even fund a independent office to give Congress the data they ask for, just to ignore it is beyond me.
Last week it was the Dems saying CBO's estimate of heath care costs was high, and the GOP jumped on it, this week, the CBO is the bad guy because is lower then the the GOP likes. Why bother ?

142 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:39:09pm

re: #139 Dianna

I'm all for it!


Mmmmm, toasted harshmellow!

/

143 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:39:13pm

'High' wallabies accused of making crop circles after eating poppies in Tasmania

Poppy growners in the Australian state of Tasmania have long wondered about a strange phenomenon. The crop circles that have been known to, well, crop up in poppy fields have even inspired legends, the Mercury of Hobart, Tasmania, reports. Like crop circles elsewhere in the world, the poppy circles were mysterious, but no answers were forthcoming.

Mystery solved ... maybe.

Tasmania supplies about half of the world's legally-produced opium, which is made from poppies and used to make painkillers like morphine. But, of course, it's important to safeguard the plant, which is used not only in legal painkillers, but also to produce heroin.

Security for the poppy plants was the subject of discussion at a recent parliamentary hearing, which took an unexpected turn when Lara Giddings, attorney general of Tasmania, spoke of a strange discovery.

"The one interesting bit that I found recently in one of my briefs on the poppy industry was that we have a problem with wallabies entering poppy fields, getting as high as a kite and going around in circles," Giddings told those assembled. "Then they crash. We see crop circles in the poppy industry from wallabies that are high."

/little dudes!

144 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:39:13pm

I always expected an energy bill to somehow see about producing more energy at less cost. Guess I'm not nuanced to understand how a regressive tax on those who can least afford it to back a plan with the minute possibility of maybe lowering the planet's temperature 3/4 of a degree in 50 years or so, assuming we even need to do that in the first place, makes any sense what so ever.

145 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:39:44pm

re: #139 Dianna

I'm all for it!

Virtual drinks are on me. What will you have, young lady? Got a picture ID?

/

146 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:39:51pm

re: #133 doppelganglander

When is someone going to say, we're in the middle of the worst recession in 25 years. Now is not the time to spend money on the elusive benefits of cap and trade, a complete overhaul of health care, or anything else of dubious value and enormous paycheck.

Keep repeating this.

147 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:40:06pm

re: #139 Dianna

I'm all for it!

smothered in gooy Hershey's

148 quickjustice  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:40:22pm

re: #114 avanti

That's completely off base. Here are the real numbers from the Wall Street Journal, which are much higher: [Link: online.wsj.com...]

"When the Heritage Foundation did its analysis of Waxman-Markey, it broadly compared the economy with and without the carbon tax. Under this more comprehensive scenario, it found Waxman-Markey would cost the economy $161 billion in 2020, which is $1,870 for a family of four. As the bill's restrictions kick in, that number rises to $6,800 for a family of four by 2035.

Note also that the CBO analysis is an average for the country as a whole. It doesn't take into account the fact that certain regions and populations will be more severely hit than others -- manufacturing states more than service states; coal producing states more than states that rely on hydro or natural gas. Low-income Americans, who devote more of their disposable income to energy, have more to lose than high-income families.

Even as Democrats have promised that this cap-and-trade legislation won't pinch wallets, behind the scenes they've acknowledged the energy price tsunami that is coming. During the brief few days in which the bill was debated in the House Energy Committee, Republicans offered three amendments: one to suspend the program if gas hit $5 a gallon; one to suspend the program if electricity prices rose 10% over 2009; and one to suspend the program if unemployment rates hit 15%. Democrats defeated all of them."

149 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:40:31pm

re: #143 Killian Bundy

I dinged this up for Jimmah earlier, and it is still FUNNY.

teh pokit kittehs eated drugz! OH NOES!

150 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:40:44pm

re: #133 doppelganglander

When is someone going to say, we're in the middle of the worst recession in 25 years. Now is not the time to spend money on the elusive benefits of cap and trade, a complete overhaul of health care, or anything else of dubious value and enormous paycheck.

I guess no one, since from what I have read, they even have republicans on board to vote yes on this.

Bottom line, every special interest in the country is standing in line waiting for their handout and right, left or otherwise is going to make sure they get it.

The boy in DC are only concerned with their jobs. I wrote 3 democratic congressmen in my state about this cap and trade. Each one sent a form email back saying they would not vote on anything that would cost Coloradans money.

Yea, right, when at the same time the budget office is throwing around figures about how much MORE it will cost each household.

Big disconnect there. Just get ready to bend over and get it up the ass again.

These folks are on a money bags express, next stop, their pockets, you pay, they play.

151 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:41:31pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

That's still too much by my standards. I say we hold off on the bill and try less command-and-control methods.

I know libs that pay extra for "green" energy, but not me.

152 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:41:37pm

re: #149 OldLineTexan

I dinged this up for Jimmah earlier, and it is still FUNNY.

teh pokit kittehs eated drugz! OH NOES!

I sent the link to Taranto. I hope it shows up in tomorrow's "BOTW - 'Everything is seemingly spinning out of control."

153 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:41:58pm

re: #141 avanti

I know, both side love the CBO estimates when they fit their agenda, not so much when it does not. Why we even fund a independent office to give Congress the data they ask for, just to ignore it is beyond me.
Last week it was the Dems saying CBO's estimate of heath care costs was high, and the GOP jumped on it, this week, the CBO is the bad guy because is lower then the the GOP likes. Why bother ?

correct...just cut taxes and be done with it...why does BO resist tax cuts?....why does he distain history?

154 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:42:20pm

re: #141 avanti

I know, both side love the CBO estimates when they fit their agenda, not so much when it does not. Why we even fund a independent office to give Congress the data they ask for, just to ignore it is beyond me.
Last week it was the Dems saying CBO's estimate of heath care costs was high, and the GOP jumped on it, this week, the CBO is the bad guy because is lower then the the GOP likes. Why bother ?

Does this mean anything to you. In the middle of the worst recession in the last 25 years, the government should not be developing ANY program that is going to TAKE money from the pockets of everyday ordinary people.

What's so hard about understanding that?

155 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:42:41pm

re: #144 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I always expected an energy bill to somehow see about producing more energy at less cost. Guess I'm not nuanced to understand how a regressive tax on those who can least afford it to back a plan with the minute possibility of maybe lowering the planet's temperature 3/4 of a degree in 50 years or so, assuming we even need to do that in the first place, makes any sense what so ever.

It's also a major jobs killer, totally stupid.

/not to mention that it's futile since China and India aren't part of it, we're just shooting our own economy in the head for no good reason whatsoever, corporations will just move to where the energy is cheaper

156 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:43:06pm

re: #141 avanti

I think it is because one may or may not be correct and the other one cartoonishly absurd. You can pick...

157 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:44:50pm

re: #148 quickjustice

Republicans offered three amendments: one to suspend the program if gas hit $5 a gallon; one to suspend the program if electricity prices rose 10% over 2009; and one to suspend the program if unemployment rates hit 15%. Democrats defeated all of them."

I would have voted for those amendments if they were not open ended. i.e. we might be have $5.00 gallon gas in a few years regardless, but some form of those amendments would appeal to me.

158 alegrias  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:45:02pm

re: #150 Walter L. Newton

* * * *
Hey hey hey, it's not just "boys in DC" mucking up the country.

California triumvirate of Pelosi (3rd in line to Pres. Obama), Senators Feinstein and the bitchy Senatrix Boxer, represent our biggest most bankrupt, cutting edge State of left wingers.

159 DesertSage  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:45:57pm

Does this look like a gun?

︻┳ テ=一

160 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:46:18pm

re: #155 Killian Bundy

It's also a major jobs killer, totally stupid.

/not to mention that it's futile since China and India aren't part of it, we're just shooting our own economy in the head for no good reason whatsoever, corporations will just move to where the energy is cheaper

Same thing keeps happening in CA. They pass feel good legislation which punishes businesses so they leave the state, then we have to pay more for the services and goods since they come from NV and AZ now.

Idiots

161 alegrias  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:46:39pm

re: #151 avanti

I know libs that pay extra for "green" energy, but not me.

* * * *
We're all gonna pay for green, like the ol' USSR was "green"--WITHOUT ENERGY-- and too poor to power anything anyway.

162 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:46:56pm

re: #157 avanti

I would have voted for those amendments if they were not open ended. i.e. we might be have $5.00 gallon gas in a few years regardless, but some form of those amendments would appeal to me.


we will have gas at 5$....why is that?

163 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:47:04pm

re: #159 DesertSage

Does this look like a gun?

︻┳ テ=一

Yes, and your tax for that type of weapon is $45.00. :)

164 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:47:33pm

re: #159 DesertSage

Does this look like a gun?

︻┳ テ=一

Yes.

165 JPL17  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:04pm

re: #153 albusteve

correct...just cut taxes and be done with it...why does BO resist tax cuts?....why does he distain history?

Because he is (or thinks he is)...God

166 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:07pm

re: #162 albusteve

we will have gas at 5$....why is that?

Because it's Obama's plan. Quite explicitly so.

167 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:15pm

Tax energy to feed the government to lower the global mean temperature? Is that the theory?

Sounds to me like if anything it would raise the mean temperature.

168 OldScouter  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:22pm

re: #159 DesertSage

Does this look like a gun?

︻┳ テ=一

Draw this in most public schools and you get suspended.

169 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:37pm

hey hey
ho ho
gasoline has got to go!

170 alegrias  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:38pm

re: #153 albusteve

correct...just cut taxes and be done with it...why does BO resist tax cuts?....why does he distain history?

* * * *
He stoops to conquer (change!) history, not learn anything from it!

171 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:48:48pm

re: #160 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Same thing keeps happening in CA. They pass feel good legislation which punishes businesses so they leave the state, then we have to pay more for the services and goods since they come from NV and AZ now.

Idiots

All the good feeling is the money going into the pockets of special interest, big business, unfounded green programs, junk science, corrupt government departments, unions, and anyplace that money can be absorbed and vanish.

Oh, that doesn't include you, me or anyone else here.

172 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:49:10pm

re: #162 albusteve

we will have gas at 5$....why is that?

Because no one in the US is willing to drill for the oil or set up refineries?

173 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:49:11pm

re: #162 albusteve

we will have gas at 5$....why is that?

no domestic drilling
no offshore drilling
no domestic oil industry

174 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:49:30pm

re: #169 albusteve

hey hey
ho ho
gasoline has got to go!

What do we want?

5 dollars of gasoline per gallon!

When do we want it?

Now!

////Repeat

/

175 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:49:50pm

re: #159 DesertSage

Does this look like a gun?

︻┳ テ=一

LOL
Awesome!
Click my nic..

176 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:49:57pm

re: #170 alegrias

* * * *
He stoops to conquer (change!) history, not learn anything from it!

Actually, he schtups to conquer.

And we're the ones getting schtupped.

177 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:50:17pm

re: #162 albusteve

we will have gas at 5$....why is that?

Supply and demand, plus inflation, the third world is getting thirsty. I recall buying a dollars worth and getting a quarter tank.

178 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:50:19pm

hey ho
hey he
hugging trees
feels good to me

179 baier  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:50:38pm

I saw Regina Spektor at the Jewish Music Festival a few years back. She sang Chelsea Hotel and Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen, and it was really amazing. Then she sang a Madonna song, because of the Kabbalah thing, I thought it was pretty funny...I was almost alone in that opinion. I'd never heard of her before that night, but I've been a fan ever since.

180 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:51:14pm

re: #168 OldScouter

Draw this in most public schools and you get suspended.

Indeed. Zero Tolerance in action. Lousy for justice and creativity, good for avoiding and fighting lawsuits.

181 DesertSage  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:51:35pm

re: #175 HoosierHoops

LOL
Awesome!
Click my nic..

Hehe....it looks just like the one you're holding.

182 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:51:36pm

re: #173 OldLineTexan

And, no new Nukes.

183 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:52:00pm

Hoops....

184 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:52:13pm

re: #177 avanti

Supply and demand, plus inflation, the third world is getting thirsty. I recall buying a dollars worth and getting a quarter tank.

Gee, if only we had oil here in the US we could get to.

185 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:52:23pm

re: #177 avanti

Supply and demand, plus inflation, the third world is getting thirsty. I recall buying a dollars worth and getting a quarter tank.


you dupe...haha!...how can you be so stupid?...do you honestly believe that?

186 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:52:37pm

re: #182 Floral Giraffe

And, no new Nukes.

Sucks to be behind the Fwench in something so important.

We need nuke plants for the stinkin' electric cars!

187 DesertSage  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:53:03pm

re: #183 Sharmuta

Hoops....

That's what we in the hood call basketball.

:)

188 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:53:29pm

re: #171 Walter L. Newton

All the good feeling is the money going into the pockets of special interest, big business, unfounded green programs, junk science, corrupt government departments, unions, and anyplace that money can be absorbed and vanish.

Oh, that doesn't include you, me or anyone else here.

And that's the crap that California should be cutting to balance their budget, but nooooo, they threaten to lay off teachers and cut off medical care for the poor. I firmly believe their game is to panic the people into approving higher taxes for fear of hurting the chiiiiiillllllldrreeeenn. (You've got to say that last word like Nancy Pelosi.)

189 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:53:48pm

Here's a nice story about Stevie Wonder, via The Corner:

My wife works at Children's Healthcare of Atlanta on the AFLAC Cancer Center. One of her patients is Leo, an 18-year-old kid with terminal cancer, and his dad told her early on that Leo is a huge Stevie Wonder fan.

Beth (the wife) works with Rock Against Cancer, and through their local volunteer and the Atlanta NBC station, she got in touch with Stevie's management ahead of the concert he played here last night. Leo and his family got to meet with Stevie before the show, and not only did Stevie walk out and dedicate the show to Leo, he brought the kid out onstage, sat him down on the piano bench next to him, and kept him there the entire show. We were up on the lawn (the Ampitheater at Encore Park in Alpharetta), and you could literally see the grin on the kid's face from way back there. They also had dinner together after the show.

...
There aren't ten big stars in the world who'd do all that. Hell, there might not even be two.

[Link: wcollier.blogspot.com...]

190 alegrias  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:53:51pm

re: #176 Occasional Reader

Actually, he schtups to conquer.

And we're the ones getting schtupped.

* * * *
Ya, but will Pres. Obama ever

get tired,
tired of being admired?

(sung in Madeline Kahn's Marlene Dietrich voice)

191 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:54:13pm

re: #183 Sharmuta

Hoops....

{Sharm} I tried about 10 times to get in.. The Blackberry isn't working for registration....

192 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:54:19pm

re: #182 Floral Giraffe

And, no new Nukes.

That's my biggest disagreement with the POTUS. A moon landing type program to convert to nukes could solve our energy and CO2 issues in a few decades. No POTUS has done enough recently to push for nuke power.

193 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:54:54pm

re: #185 albusteve

you dupe...haha!...how can you be so stupid?...do you honestly believe that?

Downding. He is old enough to remember those days, before Carter's hyperinflation. And his argument was reasonable, your response was nothing but an ad hominum attack.

194 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:55:09pm

re: #189 jaunte

That is really special. Thanks for sharing.

195 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:55:17pm

Does no one notice the changing rhetoric on this climate change legislation?
From global warming to climate change to "cleaning the air"?

Speaking in the Rose Garden at the White House, Obama said Washington must not miss the opportunity to work on cleaning the air...

196 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:55:39pm

re: #188 doppelganglander

And that's the crap that California should be cutting to balance their budget, but nooooo, they threaten to lay off teachers and cut off medical care for the poor. I firmly believe their game is to panic the people into approving higher taxes for fear of hurting the chiiiiiillllllldrreeeenn. (You've got to say that last word like Nancy Pelosi.)

Its not working. I adjusted my witholdings so they dont get a dime from me (used to try for a small refund) and plan to move. I'm not alone.

197 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:55:45pm

re: #187 DesertSage

That's what we in the hood call basketball.

:)

I love Ball....

198 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:55:50pm

re: #191 HoosierHoops

Try later with a real computer and we'll see you next time. {Hoops}

199 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:55:54pm

Waxman-Markey: Man-Made Disaster

Fiscal Policy: The House of Representatives is preparing to vote on an anti-stimulus package that in the name of saving the earth will destroy the American economy. Smoot-Hawley will seem like a speed bump.

Not since a misguided piece of legislation imposed tariffs that turned a recession into a depression has there been a piece of legislation as bad as Waxman-Markey.

The 1,000-plus-page American Clean Energy and Security Act (H.R. 2454) is being rushed to a vote by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi before anyone can seriously object to this economic suicide pact.

It's what Janet Napolitano, secretary of Homeland Security, might call a "man-caused disaster," a phrase she coined to replace the politically incorrect "terrorist attack." But no terrorist could ever dream of inflicting as much damage as this bill.

Its centerpiece is a "cap and trade" provision that has been rightfully derided as "cap and tax." It is in fact a tax on energy everywhere it is consumed on everything it is used to make or provide.

It is the largest tax increase in American history — a tax on all Americans — even the 95% that President Obama pledged would never see a tax increase.

. . .

President Obama has called on the U.S. to "lead by example" on global warming. During the campaign, he said: "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times . . . and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK."

Soon we may not be able to. Other countries can just sit back and watch us destroy ourselves. Where will you be when the lights go out?

/read the whole thing, weep, and pray they don't have the votes to pass this boondoggle tomorrow

200 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:56:11pm

re: #184 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Gee, if only we had oil here in the US we could get to.

OK, someone was going to get to it anyway:

"Drill baby drill"

201 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:56:17pm

re: #194 doppelganglander

These days, we need some good stories. :-)

202 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:56:20pm

re: #195 solomonpanting

Does no one notice the changing rhetoric on this climate change legislation?
From global warming to climate change to "cleaning the air"?

Good catch. I mean, who's in favor of dirty air, right? Reminds of the gibberish about Bush's EPA and the arsenic levels.

203 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:57:51pm

Good evening everyone.

204 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:58:10pm

re: #199 Killian Bundy

Waxman-Markey: Man-Made Disaster

/read the whole thing, weep, and pray they don't have the votes to pass this boondoggle tomorrow

May it go down in flames, leaving Nancy Pelosi humiliated in front of the whole world.

205 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:58:13pm

re: #195 solomonpanting

Does no one notice the changing rhetoric on this climate change legislation?
From global warming to climate change to "cleaning the air"?

Won't be long...

"Are you pro-clean air?"

//

206 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:58:14pm

re: #198 Sharmuta

Try later with a real computer and we'll see you next time. {Hoops}

Story of my life.....
*wink*
I'll try in the morning....

207 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:58:18pm

re: #199 Killian Bundy

I am so sick of watching my country run into the ground by the insane/mentally challenged/evil/all of the above.

208 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:58:35pm

re: #203 Flyers1974

Good evening everyone.

Hello, Flyers. Who's your life going.

209 alegrias  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:58:48pm

re: #200 avanti

OK, someone was going to get to it anyway:

"Drill baby drill"

* * * *
Why should only Iranians have drilling & nukes?
Obama must really hate us, to give mullahs all the energy advantages.

210 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:59:16pm
211 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 7:59:27pm

re: #205 Gus 802

Won't be long...

"Are you pro-clean air?"

//

Nope, I'm a walking talking C02 Factory!

212 Desert Dog  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:00:33pm

re: #211 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Nope, I'm a walking talking C02 Factory!

You should stop exhaling so much, you are killing Gaia, you bastard!

213 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:00:38pm

We need your help to stop the cap-and-trade energy tax!

This is the key target list based on our most recent information. If your Congressman is on an undecided or leaning list below PLEASE click here and enter your zip code to get your representative's number and talking points on this issue.


[Link: www.afphq.org...]

214 alegrias  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:00:39pm

re: #207 doppelganglander

I am so sick of watching my country run into the ground by the insane/mentally challenged/evil/all of the above.

* * *
They're not crazy, their crazy like a fox. These left winger Administration people are geniuses, and we supposedly smart lizards are sitting here talking Michael Jackson & Hollywood centric entertainment death trivia!

215 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:00:54pm

re: #195 solomonpanting

Does no one notice the changing rhetoric on this climate change legislation?
From global warming to climate change to "cleaning the air"?

Because they are trying to blur the line between air pollution and greenhouse gases. They are two different issues, even if they are both bad... but they are still two completely different issues. Trying to merge them into one is an attempt at ramming AGW-related legislation down our throats disguised as pollution control measures. They will run commercials showing polluted lakes and streams, with dead fish and the like and then beg you to call your congressperson and ask them to support HR XXX - Cap & Trade Bill (or whatever).

It's basically the same thing as the people who want to blur the line differentiating legal and illegal immigration, so that they can make people who are against illegal immigration appear to be against legal immigration as well and therefore racist.

216 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:01:04pm

re: #210 Noam Sayin'

Joint Venture Name Fail

I love it!

217 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:01:11pm

re: #210 Noam Sayin'

Joint Venture Name Fail

RACISTS!

/kidding

218 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:01:14pm

Buy salt.

It'll be more valuable than paper money after Sunshine gets through with us.

219 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:01:34pm

re: #211 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Nope, I'm a walking talking C02 Factory!

You're killing the planet, raping Mother Nature.
And you know what that makes you?

220 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:01:48pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

Downding. He is old enough to remember those days, before Carter's hyperinflation. And his argument was reasonable, your response was nothing but an ad hominum attack.

I'm an ad homist!

221 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:02:14pm

re: #212 Desert Dog

You should stop exhaling so much, you are killing Gaia, you bastard!

I'll balance it out by taking a dump on my asshole vegan neighbor's lawn. Thats organic, right?

222 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:02:51pm

re: #219 solomonpanting

You're killing the planet, raping Mother Nature.
And you know what that makes you?

Happy?

223 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:03:29pm

Here she is, Carol Browner, Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change:

Carol M. Browner (born December 16, 1955) became Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change in the Obama Administration on January 22, 2009. Browner previously served as Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency during the Clinton Administration in the United States. She was the longest-serving administrator in the history of the agency, staying through both terms of the Clinton presidency. She was also a member of Socialist International , and was one of the leaders of that groups "Commission For a Sustainable World Society." That commission believes that wealthy countries should shrink their economies to address climate change.

Overall another latte leftist with million dollar a year salary.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Congratulations again to America for electing Obama into the White House. /

224 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:03:48pm

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

Hello, Flyers. Who's your life going.

Good thanks, taking off early tomorrow to go camping. Campfire, beers and away from the surburban life for a day or two. And you?

225 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:04:06pm

re: #222 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Happy?

Well, that too.

226 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:04:28pm

Cap-and-Trade-War

Not content to tempt political fate by imposing huge carbon taxes on the American middle class, Democrats have added a provision which imposes stiff tariffs on our trading partners if they don’t adopt aggressive carbon restrictions of their own.

You heard correctly: progressives have authored a bill that earns the mortal enmity of domestic energy consumers and our most crucial trading partners at the same time. Economy-killing climate policies and a trade war — together at last!

[Link: planetgore.nationalreview.com...]

227 alegrias  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:04:30pm

re: #221 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I'll balance it out by taking a dump on my asshole vegan neighbor's lawn. Thats organic, right?

* * * *
Our condo is without airconditioning again tonight in very hot humid Washington DC weather.

You would not believe the whining about "no airconditioning?" from the greenies, lefties & socialists who all voted for Obama.

None were smart enough to go down to the beautiful pool where it's cool & lovely.

These leftists can dish it out but they can't take it.

228 Desert Dog  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:04:36pm

re: #218 SasquatchOnSteroids

Buy salt.

It'll be more valuable than paper money after Sunshine gets through with us.

I for one, am loading up the mason jars buried out back with wampum and shiny buttons. I figure I will be able to barter with the other neolithic citizens that are left once we destroy our economy and devolve into anarchy and survival of the fittest becomes the law of the land.

/

229 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:04:40pm

re: #213 jaunte

We need your help to stop the cap-and-trade energy tax!


[Link: www.afphq.org...]

I did this yesterday, all I got back was two boilerplate emails, telling me how good this will be for the country and the world, these folks are on autopilot, they are going to vote the way they want, they are not listening to the public, really.

230 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:05:38pm

re: #228 Desert Dog

I for one, am loading up the mason jars buried out back with wampum and shiny buttons. I figure I will be able to barter with the other neolithic citizens that are left once we destroy our economy and devolve into anarchy and survival of the fittest becomes the law of the land.

/


toilet paper is gonna be big....really big

231 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:06:44pm

re: #221 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I'll balance it out by taking a dump on my asshole vegan neighbor's lawn. Thats organic, right?

We have two Greenpeace pollsters in downtown Golden every weekend, stopping people on the street. "Sir, do you care about the planet..."

I said "Do you?" and he said "Of course..." and I jumped right back in "Well, then hold your breath forever and do the planet a favor" and I walked on.

He doesn't bother me anymore.

232 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:07:06pm

re: #226 jaunte

Democrats have added a provision which imposes stiff tariffs on our trading partners if they don’t adopt aggressive carbon restrictions of their own.

Suddenly, Bush doesn't seem all that bad for these "partners".

233 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:07:18pm

It is absolutely pointless to argue with the Avanti's of this world. The thick fog of progressive ideology will not be parted by logic nor even experience. When the present apparently robust Studebaker micro economy, right alongside the general macro, collapses due to lack of buyers with throw away income, he will still be convinced that happy days are just around the corner. Why? Because he believes it to be so. Why? Because somebody said so. And he really hopes that it is true. This kind of faith will get you a long and arduous internship in hurt. But that is just how it is folks. This is why history repeats, and repeats, and repeats, and......

/Avanti, a slowed rise in unemployment does not make a case for future prosperity; it is a measure of unemployment/suffering! It is a notch on the misery scale and nothing more.

234 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:07:47pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

Downding. He is old enough to remember those days, before Carter's hyperinflation. And his argument was reasonable, your response was nothing but an ad hominum attack.

You made me double check my memory. gas was in the 25-30 cent a gallon range when I started driving in 1958. BTW, that's a bit over $2.00/gallon in 2008 dollars.

235 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:08:10pm

re: #224 Flyers1974

Good thanks, taking off early tomorrow to go camping. Campfire, beers and away from the surburban life for a day or two. And you?

No such luck. I'll be working at lest the next five days in a row and I worked today. I need to sell at least 22 phones in that time frame. I hope to do it, but it'll be brutal. Tomorrow I'll most likely be working all day.

236 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:08:23pm

re: #229 Walter L. Newton

I'm afraid you're right. I was lurking last night when someone here kept posting their opinion that Nancy Pelosi was 'not really representative' of Democrats; that may be true of most of our representatives.

237 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:08:52pm
Carol Browner, Administrator of the United States Environmental Protection Agency under President Bill Clinton, Member of Socialist International Commission for a Sustainable World Society

[Link: www.socialistinternational.org...]

Climate czar no less.

238 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:09:00pm

re: #229 Walter L. Newton

I did this yesterday, all I got back was two boilerplate emails, telling me how good this will be for the country and the world, these folks are on autopilot, they are going to vote the way they want, they are not listening to the public, really.

and you PAY them to ignore you!....hahaha!...that's just hilarious!

239 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:09:02pm

re: #227 alegrias

You would not believe the whining about "no airconditioning?" from the greenies, lefties & socialists who all voted for Obama.

Tell them they're helping to save the planet.

240 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:09:24pm

re: #231 Walter L. Newton

We have two Greenpeace pollsters in downtown Golden every weekend, stopping people on the street. "Sir, do you care about the planet..."

I said "Do you?" and he said "Of course..." and I jumped right back in "Well, then hold your breath forever and do the planet a favor" and I walked on.

He doesn't bother me anymore.

I told the ones who hang out at our local market "No. I stay indoors." They keep giving me dirty looks but they dont bother annoying me with their drivel

241 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:09:49pm

re: #230 albusteve

toilet paper is gonna be big....really big

I've made 4 copies of Stimulus 1 so I will have blank back pages for the town meeting records in Zone 6 Quadrant 4.

242 livefreeor die  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:10:19pm

re: #227 alegrias

* * * *
Our condo is without airconditioning again tonight in very hot humid Washington DC weather.

You would not believe the whining about "no airconditioning?" from the greenies, lefties & socialists who all voted for Obama.

None were smart enough to go down to the beautiful pool where it's cool & lovely.

These leftists can dish it out but they can't take it.

Exactly. Even their supreme leader wants to change us peasants' health care but would want the best available if his family was very sick.

Along those lines, how much does it s--k to run the big infomercial on his health care plan the night before Michael Jackson dies? Almost no one watched it and now discussion of it has been preempted by Billie Jean videos.

243 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:10:32pm

re: #236 jaunte

I'm afraid you're right. I was lurking last night when someone here kept posting their opinion that Nancy Pelosi was 'not really representative' of Democrats; that may be true of most of our representatives.

Oh, I'm not kidding in the least. I saw your post yesterday (or was that earlier today, it doesn't matter), and I did just what you suggested. I got replies in under an hour and both read like they were boiler plated from the same talking points, and the general tone was, it's a done deal and it's good for you.

244 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:10:57pm

re: #240 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I told the ones who hang out at our local market "No. I stay indoors." They keep giving me dirty looks but they dont bother annoying me with their drivel

"I'm afraid of the big blue room."

245 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:11:11pm

re: #189 jaunte

What a great story!
Thank you for posting it!
Sniff sniff, reaches for hankie....

246 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:11:13pm

In other news, I had forgotten how annoying resin based models can be to work with.

247 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:12:51pm

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

From your fingers, to the votes tomorrow......

248 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:12:52pm

But we didn't call it a tax, you see.

Under Waxman-Markey, the economic pain would be severe, indeed. President Obama's own aides have admitted that it could cost hardworking Americans up to $2 trillion. The burden, moreover, would fall disproportionately on the poor, who spend a greater proportion of their income on energy - 26 percent compared to a median-income family that spends 4 percent of its earnings on energy. It would also affect the South and Midwest much more than the West Coast and Northeast. In fact, the effect would be a wealth transfer from the South and Midwest to the West Coast and Northeast.

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

249 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:13:44pm

re: #246 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

In other news, I had forgotten how annoying resin based models can be to work with.

Are those better than the blow-up types?

250 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:14:08pm

re: #246 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

In other news, I had forgotten how annoying resin based models can be to work with.

Warhammer Legos are the only way to go.

Plus, plastic Lego brand building blocks are made of oil! From Denmark (OK, China), and therefore Obama-Approved.

251 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:14:10pm

re: #243 Walter L. Newton

Congressional staffers realize a lot of energy savings with prefabricated constituent response.

252 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:15:00pm

re: #248 jaunte

But we didn't call it a tax, you see.


[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

I wish I only spent 4% on energy.

253 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:15:01pm

re: #249 solomonpanting

Are those better than the blow-up types?

More durable anyways

254 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:15:28pm

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

No such luck. I'll be working at lest the next five days in a row and I worked today. I need to sell at least 22 phones in that time frame. I hope to do it, but it'll be brutal. Tomorrow I'll most likely be working all day.

Tough job, sales. That's what my father does, in his case real estate, got into it late in life at end of boom unfortunately. Not fun. Cell phones in your case?

255 John Neverbend  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:16:08pm

re: #107 Dianna

Considering that this actually made the entire audience (including me) laugh, I thought it was a known thing.

Some of his pieces are rather long, but I hadn't heard that joke before.

256 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:16:48pm

re: #248 jaunte

In fact, the effect would be a wealth transfer from the South and Midwest to the West Coast and Northeast.

I'm sure that's just a happy side effect.

/

257 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:17:12pm

Hoosier, see you're here. Been wondering, since you are a West Coast cat once removed, who is your team? Lakers? Kings, or have you adopted the Pacers?

What a lousy day for my beloved Mavs. Got a French point guard. Here is a shocker, he can't defend!

Oui, oui mon tres grande ami Americain de colour tres noir, tu vise mon tres blanc jock strap which I wave in submission? Cette basquette? Cette a tous mon ami!

258 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:17:13pm

re: #237 Gus 802

[Link: www.socialistinternational.org...]

Climate czar no less.

And she has impeccable scientific credentials as a climate expert, being a lawyer...

///

259 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:17:40pm

re: #251 jaunte

Congressional staffers realize a lot of energy savings with prefabricated constituent response.

No, it wasn't the "form" email that bothered me, it was the fact that the email basically implied it was a done deal and it was for the good of ME. Meaning, thanks for you input but no thanks.

260 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:17:53pm

re: #254 Flyers1974

Tough job, sales. That's what my father does, in his case real estate, got into it late in life at end of boom unfortunately. Not fun. Cell phones in your case?

Yes. I started slow this month, and that's put my a bit behind the 8 ball. But I can meet my quotas, it just won't be much fun. The good news is that I'll have but the 3rd and 4th of July off, so after I meet them I'll have time for some fun.

261 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:18:05pm

re: #258 lobo91

And she has impeccable scientific credentials as a climate expert, being a lawyer...

///

Yeah. You know that's a one-way street.

///Denier!

/

262 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:19:16pm

re: #259 Walter L. Newton

No, it wasn't the "form" email that bothered me, it was the fact that the email basically implied it was a done deal and it was for the good of ME. Meaning, thanks for you input but no thanks.

From who? I gave up writing to DeGette. She's a robot liberal. Another millionaire however.

263 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:19:28pm

re: #259 Walter L. Newton

Government at work; no kibitzing.

264 dkorta  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:19:32pm

This didn't seem appropriate for the Michael Jackson wake thread, but it's music and Michael Jackson related.

I never really cared for MJ's music or MJ as a performer. The exceptions were some of the cuts on Thriller, like Billy Jean.

In fact, I was surprised to now find out that the Jackson 5 are considered a Motown group, because I never considered them a Motown group. So I did some digging, and now know why.

In the early 70's Motown moved from Detroit to Los Angeles. In doing so, they left behind their signature rythm section - the Funk Brothers, and more specifically bassist extraodinaire James Jamerson. The Jackson 5 recorded out of LA, not Detroit, and did not have the signature Detroit sound. No Detroit sound, no Motown, at least in my mind.

Sadly, Jamerson moved to LA, but never caught on out there, in no small part because he was in the later stages of alcoholism. He died out there in the 80's of diseases related to alcoholism.

So in tribute to James Jamerson, who is largely unknown but who played on MOST of the the Detroit-based Motown hits

265 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:19:40pm

re: #257 The Shadow Do

Hoosier, see you're here. Been wondering, since you are a West Coast cat once removed, who is your team? Lakers? Kings, or have you adopted the Pacers?

What a lousy day for my beloved Mavs. Got a French point guard. Here is a shocker, he can't defend!

Oui, oui mon tres grande ami Americain de colour tres noir, tu vise mon tres blanc jock strap which I wave in submission? Cette basquette? Cette a tous mon ami!


Grew up in Northern California..I am a golden State fan...And where ever I live I always root for the home team..I love Indy Sports...

266 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:20:22pm

re: #262 Gus 802

From who? I gave up writing to DeGette. She's a robot liberal. Another millionaire however.

Michael Bennet and I can't find the other email.

267 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:20:26pm

Answering criticism on why India was not committing itself to capping GHG (greenhouse gas) emissions, [the Indian prime minister's principal negotiator on climate change] Shyam Saran said: "To merely ward off pressure, we don't want to announce targets which we have no intention of achieving."

[Link: english.peopledaily.com.cn...]

268 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:21:40pm

re: #259 Walter L. Newton

No, it wasn't the "form" email that bothered me, it was the fact that the email basically implied it was a done deal and it was for the good of ME. Meaning, thanks for you input but no thanks.

I e-mailed the Clinton White House once about something (I have no idea what) and got a form letter in the mail thanking me for my support.

That would have been okay, had my e-mail actually been supportive of their position (which it wasn't). Apparently, their system was set up to look for key words, and just assumed that anyone who wrote to them must agree.

269 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:21:45pm

re: #267 jaunte

Answering criticism on why India was not committing itself to capping GHG (greenhouse gas) emissions, [the Indian prime minister's principal negotiator on climate change] Shyam Saran said: "To merely ward off pressure, we don't want to announce targets which we have no intention of achieving."

[Link: english.peopledaily.com.cn...]

I like his honesty.

270 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:21:50pm

re: #264 dkorta

nice post....some accurate musicology

271 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:22:11pm

re: #267 jaunte

Answering criticism on why India was not committing itself to capping GHG (greenhouse gas) emissions, [the Indian prime minister's principal negotiator on climate change] Shyam Saran said: "To merely ward off pressure, we don't want to announce targets which we have no intention of achieving."

[Link: english.peopledaily.com.cn...]


I liked him better when he was with the Pharoahs.

/

272 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:22:15pm

re: #266 Walter L. Newton

Michael Bennet and I can't find the other email.

Ah. The Hickenlooper clone that was superintendent of Denver Public Schools and replaced the other idiot, Ken Salazar.

Unelected but he'll probably win in the "New Colorado."

273 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:22:25pm

Nothing quite like the feeling of slicing an X-acto blade into ones thumb

274 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:23:02pm

re: #233 The Shadow Do

When the present apparently robust Studebaker micro economy, right alongside the general macro, collapses due to lack of buyers with throw away income, he will still be convinced that happy days are just around the corner. Why? Because he believes it to be so.

Actually, I have a backup plan. It's a stimulus program that buys Studebakers from me to transport Navy midshipmen to their ring dances, weddings and such. I should be able to get a few million, and no one will notice.

Midshipman.

275 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:23:07pm

re: #267 jaunte

Answering criticism on why India was not committing itself to capping GHG (greenhouse gas) emissions, [the Indian prime minister's principal negotiator on climate change] Shyam Saran said: "To merely ward off pressure, we don't want to announce targets which we have no intention of achieving."

[Link: english.peopledaily.com.cn...]

Oh man, thats gonna leave a mark.

276 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:23:15pm

re: #265 HoosierHoops

Grew up in Northern California..I am a golden State fan...And where ever I live I always root for the home team..I love Indy Sports...

Good for you. I am sort of the same way. Hoosier native so I follow the progress of the Pacers. Spent 25 of my best years in Colorado so I follow the Nuggets. Last 10 years in Dallas. Geez I wish we could get some help for Dirk!

277 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:23:17pm

re: #273 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Nothing quite like the feeling of slicing an X-acto blade into ones thumb

Did you get that magic moment where you know you've hosed yourself, but it hasn't hurt or bled yet?

278 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:23:40pm

re: #272 Gus 802

Ah. The Hickenlooper clone that was superintendent of Denver Public Schools and replaced the other idiot, Ken Salazar.

Unelected but he'll probably win in the "New Colorado."

Is it too late for El Paso County to secede from the state?

279 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:23:56pm

re: #273 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Nothing quite like the feeling of slicing an X-acto blade into ones thumb

I usually save that special feeling for holidays. Lucky stiff.

280 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:24:13pm

re: #231 Walter L. Newton

Too funny! Mine were asking "do you care about baby seals?" I told him they were tasty when grilled! They don't bug me now!

281 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:24:25pm

re: #274 avanti

LOL

282 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:25:06pm

re: #276 The Shadow Do

Good for you. I am sort of the same way. Hoosier native so I follow the progress of the Pacers. Spent 25 of my best years in Colorado so I follow the Nuggets. Last 10 years in Dallas. Geez I wish we could get some help for Dirk!


Michigan native in New Mexico....I bleed maize and blue

283 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:25:15pm

re: #278 lobo91

Is it too late for El Paso County to secede from the state?

Probably. And if they start a movement and find one (1) Ron Paul member in the team, forget about it!

;-)

/

284 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:25:29pm

re: #277 OldLineTexan

Did you get that magic moment where you know you've hosed yourself, but it hasn't hurt or bled yet?

Yup, was shaving residue off a model piece and right down into the thumb pad. Definately a "Ah shit, OUCH" moment. Thank God for super glue and insta-set.

285 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:25:46pm

This is also music-related. The owner of the copyright on the song "Kookaburra" is suing Men at Work, claiming that "Down Under" is a rip-off of his song. Specifically, he's complaining about the flute part in the bridge of the song. I call bullshit.

Besides, isn't that song 20 years old? Why didn't he notice sooner?

286 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:26:09pm

re: #283 Gus 802

Probably. And if they start a movement and find one (1) Ron Paul member in the team, forget about it!

;-)

/

True, dat.

287 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:26:12pm

re: #279 Walter L. Newton

I usually save that special feeling for holidays. Lucky stiff.

Decided to treat myself, fresh blade, so it was nice and sharp

288 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:26:27pm

re: #273 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Nothing quite like the feeling of slicing an X-acto blade into ones thumb

Oh, there is. But I'm somewhat embarassed to elaborate.

289 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:26:53pm

re: #286 OldLineTexan

True, dat.

All it takes is one (1).

//

290 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:27:08pm

Haven't seen this one yet - is this real?

Or photoshop?

291 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:27:11pm

re: #277 OldLineTexan

Did you get that magic moment where you know you've hosed yourself, but it hasn't hurt or bled yet?

www.obamavoterwithbuyersremorse.com

292 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:27:18pm

re: #288 solomonpanting

Oh, there is. But I'm somewhat embarassed to elaborate.

They took those "home bris" kits off the market, so ir's OK to let it out now.

/

293 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:27:26pm

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

Nice. Are you into fireworks? I am, just hate fighting the masses to see them. I'd get my own, but I'm always afraid I'm going to set someone's tree (or worse) on fire.

294 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:27:36pm

re: #282 albusteve

Michigan native in New Mexico....I bleed maize and blue

How about the Low Blows?

295 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:27:49pm

re: #289 Gus 802

All it takes is one (1).

//

Or the suspicion of 1. Or, if 1 is seen nearby!

296 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:28:06pm

re: #285 doppelganglander

This is also music-related. The owner of the copyright on the song "Kookaburra" is suing Men at Work, claiming that "Down Under" is a rip-off of his song. Specifically, he's complaining about the flute part in the bridge of the song. I call bullshit.

[Video]

Besides, isn't that song 20 years old? Why didn't he notice sooner?

I've heard that song off and on, what the fuck is it about?

297 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:28:21pm

re: #283 Gus 802

Probably. And if they start a movement and find one (1) Ron Paul member in the team, forget about it!

;-)

/

I just hope the Obama ATF doesn't decide to attack the Focus on the Family compound ala Waco. My house is too close to there...

298 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:28:21pm

re: #290 Racer X

Haven't seen this one yet - is this real?

Or photoshop?

I hope that bag is full of grenades

299 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:28:33pm

This Day in Rock History: The Beatles, All You Need is Love, World Satellite Broadcast to 26 Countries, 400 million people.

42 years ago today, June 25 1967. The Beatles premiere the song "All You Need Is Love" on a worldwide TV broadcast to an estimated 400 million people.

300 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:29:02pm

re: #296 Walter L. Newton

I've heard that song off and on, what the fuck is it about?

Being drunk.

Or eating opium with wallabies.

301 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:29:10pm

re: #276 The Shadow Do

Good for you. I am sort of the same way. Hoosier native so I follow the progress of the Pacers. Spent 25 of my best years in Colorado so I follow the Nuggets. Last 10 years in Dallas. Geez I wish we could get some help for Dirk!

LOL
Don't say it.....I can''t help it...Hoopster....
Can't I say anything about Cuban as an owner?
No! You can not!
Ok Ok...at least your ballers aren't shooting there way out of a strip joint at 3am downtown...
See.... you can say something positive....
But but..I Think they are....Shhhhh Don't say it hoopster....
Mavs...
*wink*

302 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:30:01pm

re: #296 Walter L. Newton

Some aussie talking to a bird.

303 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:30:06pm

re: #291 SasquatchOnSteroids

www.obamavoterwithbuyersremorse.com

I prefer [Link: www.Ilovesmykoolaid.com...]

304 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:30:17pm

re: #295 OldLineTexan

Or the suspicion of 1. Or, if 1 is seen nearby!

Indeed. Just don't mention a word about socialists in the White House or be accused of having "ODS." ;)

305 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:30:18pm

re: #299 Killgore Trout

This Day in Rock History: The Beatles, All You Need is Love, World Satellite Broadcast to 26 Countries, 400 million people.

Oh man, do I remember that. I am so far gone, I must go away now.

306 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:30:35pm

re: #294 The Shadow Do

How about the Low Blows?


it's the only game in town...people love them...looks jv ball to me

307 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:31:13pm

re: #290 Racer X

Haven't seen this one yet - is this real?

Or photoshop?

Photoshopped. AD is photoshopped onto the top of the vehicle. Look at the woman, she is casting a shadow in front of her (arm), so the sun is behind her, yet AD right arm, which is in front of him, should be casting a defined line against his grey jacket, somewhere in his right chest area. No shadow.

308 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:31:26pm

re: #296 Walter L. Newton

I've heard that song off and on, what the fuck is it about?

Kookaburra or Down Under?

309 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:31:34pm

re: #306 albusteve

it's the only game in town...

Ah, back to Obama health care ...

310 albusteve  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:31:38pm

re: #299 Killgore Trout

This Day in Rock History: The Beatles, All You Need is Love, World Satellite Broadcast to 26 Countries, 400 million people.


tres kewl!.....thanks

311 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:31:39pm

re: #301 HoosierHoops

LOL
Don't say it.....I can''t help it...Hoopster....
Can't I say anything about Cuban as an owner?
No! You can not!
Ok Ok...at least your ballers aren't shooting there way out of a strip joint at 3am downtown...
See.... you can say something positive....
But but..I Think they are....Shhhhh Don't say it hoopster....
Mavs...
*wink*

FUCKING OUCH!

312 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:31:43pm

OK, I'm back from sitting out with my Male as he smoked a cigar.

Anything fun happen?

313 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:32:21pm

re: #312 Dianna

OK, I'm back from sitting out with my Male as he smoked a cigar.

Anything fun happen?

NO, but now I want a cigar.

/dammit

314 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:32:25pm

re: #303 avanti

I prefer [Link: www.Ilovesmykoolaid.com...]

Just remember, Barack Obama stole your new bicycle.

Refresh, forever and ever, for new reasons to seethe at Obama as necessary.

315 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:32:36pm

re: #277 OldLineTexan

Did you get that magic moment where you know you've hosed yourself, but it hasn't hurt or bled yet?

I do.

316 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:33:30pm

re: #314 iceweasel

Just remember, Barack Obama stole your new bicycle.

Refresh, forever and ever, for new reasons to seethe at Obama as necessary.

BARACK OBAMA BLAMES YOU FOR GLOBAL WARMING

/that one's true

317 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:33:36pm

re: #312 Dianna
My cat found some screws and little rubber feet.

318 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:33:37pm

re: #307 Walter L. Newton

Photoshopped. AD is photoshopped onto the top of the vehicle. Look at the woman, she is casting a shadow in front of her (arm), so the sun is behind her, yet AD right arm, which is in front of him, should be casting a defined line against his grey jacket, somewhere in his right chest area. No shadow.

I thought it looked photoshopped because of the light, but I couldn't have put it as clearly.

319 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:33:53pm

re: #302 jaunte

Some aussie talking to a bird.

re: #308 doppelganglander

Kookaburra or Down Under?

re: #300 OldLineTexan

Being drunk.

Or eating opium with wallabies.

I knew I would get an answer :)

320 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:33:59pm

re: #316 OldLineTexan

BARACK OBAMA BLAMES YOU FOR GLOBAL WARMING

/that one's true

Heh. I knew that one would get posted here!

321 garden18  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:00pm

Of course, I saw the name Spektor and I thought she is probably Jewish. Then I saw her on the video here and changed that probably to a virtually definite. Then, doing an Internet search, confirmed intuition. She comes from a Jewish family that migrated from Moscow. May she go on to be a source of pride to her people and may she speak out for the nation of Israel. I like the fact that she wears a dress and has a sense of personal modesty.

322 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:01pm

Soooooooo bummed about Michael.

If Manilow dies... bury me under the piano.

Shit.

323 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:11pm

re: #313 OldLineTexan

NO, but now I want a cigar.

/dammit

*Snicker*

Forgive me. I sometimes get petty.

324 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:13pm

re: #272 Gus 802

Ah. The Hickenlooper clone that was superintendent of Denver Public Schools and replaced the other idiot, Ken Salazar.

Unelected but he'll probably win in the "New Colorado."

I was just in Colorado for the first time, beautiful state. Any idea why it turned "blue." I'd guess transplants from east coast, etc...

325 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:23pm

re: #303 avanti

I prefer [Link: www.Ilovesmykoolaid.com...]

This link is broken. Where's my kool-aid, dammit.

326 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:36pm

re: #317 jaunte

My cat found some screws and little rubber feet.

Did they fall out of the fourth dimension?!

327 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:43pm

re: #320 iceweasel

Heh. I knew that one would get posted here!

Bitter clingy conservative white men are so damned predictable, eh?

328 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:34:56pm

re: #307 Walter L. Newton

Thanks.

I figured no way she would be that suicidal, without taking him with her.

329 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:35:27pm

re: #323 Dianna

*Snicker*

Forgive me. I sometimes get petty.

Hey, if you can't make the ladies swoon, make 'em laugh.

330 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:35:45pm

re: #324 Flyers1974

I was just in Colorado for the first time, beautiful state. Any idea why it turned "blue." I'd guess transplants from east coast, etc...

Transplants. Used to have one of each in the Senate but not anymore. Now we have Bennet and Udal. The state house went blue as well.

331 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:35:46pm

re: #326 Dianna

These cats, they know things we can only guess at.

332 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:35:46pm

re: #324 Flyers1974

I was just in Colorado for the first time, beautiful state. Any idea why it turned "blue." I'd guess transplants from east coast, etc...

Transplants from California.

333 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:36:10pm

re: #322 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Soooooooo bummed about Michael.

If Manilow dies... bury me under the piano.

Shit.

I write the songs that make the whole world bleed.....

334 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:36:19pm

re: #325 SasquatchOnSteroids

Kool-Aid
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

335 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:36:24pm

re: #324 Flyers1974

I was just in Colorado for the first time, beautiful state. Any idea why it turned "blue." I'd guess transplants from east coast, etc...

Californicated

336 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:36:30pm

re: #332 lobo91

Transplants from California.

Yeah, they came here from California to get away from high taxes and regulation.

///

337 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:36:41pm

re: #332 lobo91

Transplants from California.

Crossing it off my list

338 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:36:44pm

re: #280 Floral Giraffe

Too funny! Mine were asking "do you care about baby seals?" I told him they were tasty when grilled! They don't bug me now!

Ha!

The other day, there was some guy with a clipboard out on the sidewalk. He asked me if I had a moment to talk about peace. I replied that I had a moment to talk about kicking asses and not even bothering to take names, if he liked.

339 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:37:10pm

re: #327 OldLineTexan

Bitter clingy conservative white men are so damned predictable, eh?

Are they? And if they are, why would that apply to you? You don't seem especially bitter. Or clingy!

340 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:37:54pm

re: #332 lobo91

Transplants from California.

"Honey, now that we're finally away from California, I think we should work hard to turn Colorado into another California."

//Typical.

/

341 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:38:06pm

re: #336 Gus 802

Yeah, they came here from California to get away from high taxes and regulation.

///

And in a decade or two they will wonder why the cost of living there is so damn high.

342 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:38:18pm

re: #330 Gus 802

I was just there to climb one of your smaller mountains, which I had no business doing, being close to a pack a day smoker. Had no choice in the matter though. Survived at least.

343 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:38:31pm

re: #339 iceweasel

Are they? And if they are, why would that apply to you? You don't seem especially bitter. Or clingy!

I have guns and religion ... it's a definitions thing.

;)

As for bitter ... no cigar, and the cat keeps batting screws and rubber feet at me ... where is he getting this crap?

344 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:38:37pm

Projection: It'll be years before jobs return to much of U.S.

Most of the country — 286 of 325 metro areas covered in the IHS analysis_ aren't likely to regain their pre-recession employment levels until at least 2012.

Of these areas, 112 probably won't return to their recent peaks until 2014 or later. These include Rust Belt towns such as Cleveland, Dayton and Akron, Ohio; Detroit, Warren and Flint, Mich.; the hurricane-ravaged Gulfport-Biloxi, Miss., area and the greater Los Angeles region, where the housing bubble and high unemployment have strangled the local economy.

Yeah, this is a swell time to pass Waxman-whatchamacallit, force Americans into a single-payer health care system with rationing of services, and borrow money to GIVE AWAY AS FOREIGN AID!

345 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:38:42pm

re: #328 Racer X

Thanks.

I figured no way she would be that suicidal, without taking him with her.

That's my opinion. I'm far from a photo expert. But since I work in live theatre, I am up on things like lighting, and that the first thing I look for in a photo.

I also noticed a small part of a shadow from her left leg, on the chrome bumper. It is as well defined as the shadow from her right arm, and the width of the both shadows are appropriate.

So, first look, faked, IMO.

346 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:38:48pm

re: #325 SasquatchOnSteroids

This link is broken. Where's my kool-aid, dammit.

You can't get there unless you are on a unicorn, sorry.

347 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:20pm

re: #338 Dianna

Ha!

The other day, there was some guy with a clipboard out on the sidewalk. He asked me if I had a moment to talk about peace. I replied that I had a moment to talk about kicking asses and not even bothering to take names, if he liked.

That's insane.

348 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:25pm

re: #340 Gus 802

"Honey, now that we're finally away from California, I think we should work hard to turn Colorado into another California."

//Typical.

/

You need your own variation on the popular Southern bumper sticker, "I don't care how ya'll did it up North."

349 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:30pm

re: #342 Flyers1974

I was just there to climb one of your smaller mountains, which I had no business doing, being close to a pack a day smoker. Had no choice in the matter though. Survived at least.

Longs Peak?

350 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:31pm

re: #343 OldLineTexan

I have guns and religion ... it's a definitions thing.

;)

As for bitter ... no cigar, and the cat keeps batting screws and rubber feet at me ... where is he getting this crap?

They're all connected. It's the paw in each world thing.

351 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:45pm

re: #346 avanti

You can't get there unless you are on a unicorn, sorry.

Damn, and I still got the IOU for my unicorn

352 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:49pm

re: #341 ArchangelMichael

And in a decade or two they will wonder why the cost of living there is so damn high.

That's correct. Look at what happened to New Jersey. NJ used to be the alternative to "expensive NY." Now NJ has one of the highest taxes if not THE highest taxes in the country. Transplant demands?

353 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:49pm

re: #334 jaunte

Kool-Aid
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

heh. With Vitamin C !

C your kid go absolutelyfuckinwhacko after 3 glasses.

354 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:39:56pm

re: #346 avanti

You can't get there unless you are on a unicorn, sorry.

Only virgins can ride those, you know. It's not like a Studebaker.

/

355 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:40:09pm

Okay. Goodnight. Gonna do my impression of a somnambulist... without all the walking....

I got more pleasure out of Michael's music than I got out of Farrah's poster.

And I got a pile of pleasure out of Farrah's poster.

What a shitty, shitty, shitty month.

356 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:40:22pm

re: #313 OldLineTexan

NO, but now I want a cigar.

/dammit

Another tax to raise revenue is costing jobs.

357 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:41:06pm

re: #342 Flyers1974

I was just there to climb one of your smaller mountains, which I had no business doing, being close to a pack a day smoker. Had no choice in the matter though. Survived at least.

Did you bring a pack of smokes for the climb? I've done that hiking before.

358 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:41:40pm

re: #349 The Shadow Do

Longs Peak?

Is that the one next to Grays? I did Grays. At least I did 12,000 feet.

359 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:42:06pm

I'm out of books for the train. I think I shall revert to writing.

360 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:42:14pm

Sarychev Peak Volcano in Stereo

Break out your 3D glasses for this one.

361 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:42:15pm

re: #311 The Shadow Do

FUCKING OUCH!

LOL
Just teasing...I hated the Lakers won....I've hated them my whole life...(But as a native California we secretly love LA.That's why we keep sending them water)
But I always loved it knowing after a big lose by LA that Jack Nickelson was probably sitting unshaven at his breakfast table at 6am drinking Vodka and staring out the window in shock....Those moments are priceless in my mind...I have an extra step in my life all day long.....
/over/under jack passes out by noon

362 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:42:36pm
363 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:43:17pm

re: #359 Dianna

I'm out of books for the train. I think I shall revert to writing.

I started an "Arthurian" cycle. So far, so good. Interesting storylines and characters.

364 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:43:26pm

re: #352 Gus 802

That's correct. Look at what happened to New Jersey. NJ used to be the alternative to "expensive NY." Now NJ has one of the highest taxes if not THE highest taxes in the country. Transplant demands?

The first time I realized that CA transplants were numerous enough in other states to start having an effect on them was when Nevada banned smoking in restaurants and bars. Nevada... VICE capital of the country. The state where prostitution is legal in some places... This has to be CA transplants.

365 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:43:33pm

re: #346 avanti

You can't get there unless you are on a unicorn, sorry.

Just howling at the moon. Actually looked to see how much I made v. what I get to keep.

/growl

366 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:43:41pm

re: #361 HoosierHoops

LOL
Just teasing...I hated the Lakers won....I've hated them my whole life...(But as a native California we secretly love LA.That's why we keep sending them water)
But I always loved it knowing after a big lose by LA that Jack Nickelson was probably sitting unshaven at his breakfast table at 6am drinking Vodka and staring out the window in shock....Those moments are priceless in my mind...I have an extra step in my life all day long.....
/over/under jack passes out by noon

Secret Northern California code:

The Vampire Ditch.

367 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:44:08pm

re: #363 OldLineTexan

I started an "Arthurian" cycle. So far, so good. Interesting storylines and characters.

Try Quicksilver, the first book of Neal Stephensons Baroque series.

368 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:44:21pm

re: #361 HoosierHoops

LOL
Just teasing...I hated the Lakers won....I've hated them my whole life...(But as a native California we secretly love LA.That's why we keep sending them water)
But I always loved it knowing after a big lose by LA that Jack Nickelson was probably sitting unshaven at his breakfast table at 6am drinking Vodka and staring out the window in shock....Those moments are priceless in my mind...I have an extra step in my life all day long.....
/over/under jack passes out by noon

At 6am, Nicholson was snoring as three hot women bickered quietly over who was gonna cook Moby's breakfast.

;)

369 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:44:32pm

re: #361 HoosierHoops

I love your pain! My SO watches every game, watching the draft right now. GO BBALL!

370 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:45:11pm

Just finished book 9 for the Wheel of Time series, 2 more to go and I'll be ready for the new book this fall

371 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:45:18pm

re: #363 OldLineTexan

I started an "Arthurian" cycle. So far, so good. Interesting storylines and characters.

Writing or reading?

Remember, the medievals held there were only three subjects worth writing about: The Matter of Troy, Salvation, and The Matter of Britain.

372 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:45:21pm

re: #293 Flyers1974

Nice. Are you into fireworks? I am, just hate fighting the masses to see them. I'd get my own, but I'm always afraid I'm going to set someone's tree (or worse) on fire.

Love fireworks. This year, I'll actually get a chance to see them.

373 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:46:08pm

re: #367 Walter L. Newton

Try Quicksilver, the first book of Neal Stephensons Baroque series.

I already read the Baroque Cycle.

374 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:46:10pm

re: #357 Gus 802

Did you bring a pack of smokes for the climb? I've done that hiking before.

I did, but I didn't smoke up there. I was really dying, I had no desire to smoke. When I was done, I wanted a cig, but waited - why wife would have mocked me incessantly, she's a rabid anti smoker.

375 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:46:11pm

re: #346 avanti

You can't get there unless you are on a unicorn, sorry.

Does it light the way by farting rainbows?

/////

376 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:46:45pm

re: #361 HoosierHoops

Hey!

Don't make me break out the "Kobe scary face".

LOL!

I love L.A.!

377 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:46:52pm

re: #370 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Just finished book 9 for the Wheel of Time series, 2 more to go and I'll be ready for the new book this fall

Jordan's dead. He didn't finish. You're screwed.

378 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:46:59pm

Maybe it is just me, but has anyone else noticed that Dem policies are sort of contrary to job creation?

What a dumb thought Shadow, we can put everyone on the government payroll of course.

/slaps forehead, such a dope am I

379 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:47:00pm

re: #367 Walter L. Newton

Try Quicksilver, the first book of Neal Stephensons Baroque series.

Thanks, I favorited that and will look it up.

380 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:47:01pm

re: #340 Gus 802

"Honey, now that we're finally away from California, I think we should work hard to turn Colorado into another California."

//Typical.

/

Reminds me of an Eagles song:

And you can see them there,
On Sunday morning
They stand up and sing about
what it's like up there
They call it paradise
I don't know why
You call someplace paradise,
kiss it goodbye

Ironically, of course, Don Henley was singing about California...

381 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:47:05pm

re: #373 Dianna

I already read the Baroque Cycle.

I'm on book one, Quicksilver, finished Cryptonomicon about a month ago.

382 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:47:16pm

re: #364 ArchangelMichael

The first time I realized that CA transplants were numerous enough in other states to start having an effect on them was when Nevada banned smoking in restaurants and bars. Nevada... VICE capital of the country. The state where prostitution is legal in some places... This has to be CA transplants.

Yuck, the smoking bans. They're almost nationwide and here in Colorado. No smoking in bars. Right, for "health reasons." I guess they've never seen a cirrhotic liver. I remember being in San Francisco once and hearing some people complain about me smoking a cigar -- on the sidewalk. Another time I was walking through Berkeley smoking and people were looking at me like I was from Mars. I finally looked up and saw the signs which look like "No Parking Signs" that read "No Smoking." They're starting to institute no smoking in public spaces including outdoors. And it all originated from California.

383 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:48:03pm

re: #371 Dianna

Writing or reading?

Remember, the medievals held there were only three subjects worth writing about: The Matter of Troy, Salvation, and The Matter of Britain.

Reading. Were I writing it, I doubt I would pat myself on the back so.

;)

384 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:48:19pm

re: #381 Walter L. Newton

I'm on book one, Quicksilver, finished Cryptonomicon about a month ago.

I finished Anathem back before the turn of the year. I can't sell it, because I was scribbling notes and complaints in the margins.

385 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:48:54pm

re: #380 lobo91

Ironically, of course, Don Henley was singing about California...

Yep, and it's true, so I heard. Of the paradise that California once was. In natural settings I'm sure that's still true.

386 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:48:55pm

re: #376 Racer X

That's a great pic!

387 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:00pm

re: #377 Dianna

Jordan's dead. He didn't finish. You're screwed.

He personally chose a successor and spent the final months before he died passing all his notes and materials along to finish the series. 3 more books. Will have to wait and see.

388 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:24pm

re: #377 Dianna

In the good news dept., it's almost time for a new Harry Potter movie!

389 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:24pm

re: #385 Gus 802

Yep, and it's true, so I heard. Of the paradise that California once was. In natural settings I'm sure that's still true.

All the trees are brown, and the skies are grey...

390 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:28pm

re: #366 Dianna

Secret Northern California code:

The Vampire Ditch.

LOL
I remember when in was in my 20's and flew down to LA and got off the plane...
The smell.. And my eyes..oh my gawd! My eyes are burning!
It took awhile to get used to..

391 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:43pm

re: #382 Gus 802

Yuck, the smoking bans. They're almost nationwide and here in Colorado. No smoking in bars. Right, for "health reasons." I guess they've never seen a cirrhotic liver. I remember being in San Francisco once and hearing some people complain about me smoking a cigar -- on the sidewalk. Another time I was walking through Berkeley smoking and people were looking at me like I was from Mars. I finally looked up and saw the signs which look like "No Parking Signs" that read "No Smoking." They're starting to institute no smoking in public spaces including outdoors. And it all originated from California.

All those anti-smoking hippies eating organic produce are likely to live a long time, I suppose, meaning they'll be around far too long and will continue annoying us indefinitely.

392 CynicalConservative  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:43pm

re: #384 Dianna

I finished Anathem back before the turn of the year. I can't sell it, because I was scribbling notes and complaints in the margins.

I'd buy it. I love the human touch on a book.

393 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:49:49pm

re: #382 Gus 802

They're starting to institute no smoking in public spaces including outdoors. And it all originated from California.

How many cigarettes does it take to equal the smoke from a 10,000 acre wildfire?

394 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:50:09pm

re: #374 Flyers1974

I did, but I didn't smoke up there. I was really dying, I had no desire to smoke. When I was done, I wanted a cig, but waited - why wife would have mocked me incessantly, she's a rabid anti smoker.

I know how rabid an anti-smoker a person is when they ask me this question:

"Are you smoking?"

And I'm not smoking.

395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:50:20pm

re: #393 Mich-again

.03

396 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:50:28pm

re: #382 Gus 802

Yuck, the smoking bans. They're almost nationwide and here in Colorado. No smoking in bars. Right, for "health reasons." I guess they've never seen a cirrhotic liver. I remember being in San Francisco once and hearing some people complain about me smoking a cigar -- on the sidewalk. Another time I was walking through Berkeley smoking and people were looking at me like I was from Mars. I finally looked up and saw the signs which look like "No Parking Signs" that read "No Smoking." They're starting to institute no smoking in public spaces including outdoors. And it all originated from California.

You haven't had fun until you're at the Fillmore for a concert and every idiot and his third cousin is lighting up joints.

As I said to a friend once, "If I lit a cigarette, I'd last about as long as a parent at a repressed memory convention."

397 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:50:43pm

re: #395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

.03

1 drag?

398 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:50:52pm

re: #394 Gus 802

I know how rabid an anti-smoker a person is when they ask me this question:

"Are you smoking?"

And I'm not smoking.

"Nah, I rolled around for a bit and it went out"

399 wee fury  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:12pm

re: #371 Dianna

The 'Twilight' series are fun to read when on the move.

400 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:14pm

Everyone please be generous with their updings for avanti tonight. When his karma goes positive, I've got a pair of tribute vids for him.

401 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:18pm

re: #396 Dianna

You haven't had fun until you're at the Fillmore for a concert and every idiot and his third cousin is lighting up joints.

As I said to a friend once, "If I lit a cigarette, I'd last about as long as a parent at a repressed memory convention."

"Yeah but smoking pot doesn't cause cancer!"

///

/Just dementia depending on daily use.

402 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:19pm

re: #384 Dianna

I finished Anathem back before the turn of the year. I can't sell it, because I was scribbling notes and complaints in the margins.

My girlfriend introduced me to his books. Over all, I like. He gets a bit over bearing sometimes (well, when he does, it's big time over bearing), but it's appears that if you stick them out, you won't be disappointed.

I'm probably a long way away from Anathem, since I am only about 1/3 the way through Quicksilver, and I still have The Confusion and The SYtem of the World in the Baroque Cycle.

Maybe Christmas time, a present, hint, hint (for anyone out there) :)

403 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:22pm

re: #385 Gus 802

Yep, and it's true, so I heard. Of the paradise that California once was. In natural settings I'm sure that's still true.

The Last Resort starts in Colorado, moves to California, and finishes in Hawaii.

404 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:23pm

re: #397 Mich-again

purdy much

405 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:29pm

Evening y'all - what all are we talking about?

406 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:38pm

re: #376 Racer X

Hey!

Don't make me break out the "Kobe scary face".

LOL!

I love L.A.!

Congratulations! I saw Kobe on the Tonight Show...They had to stop taping for awhile because of the uproar...
Kobe is in my top 10 players of all time..And it really pains me to say that

407 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:51:44pm

re: #388 OldLineTexan

In the good news dept., it's almost time for a new Harry Potter movie!

Peter Jackson has produced a new sci-fi horror movie due out in August

408 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:06pm

re: #398 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

"Nah, I rolled around for a bit and it went out"

Like a Formula 1 racer from the 60s.

//

409 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:15pm

re: #387 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

He personally chose a successor and spent the final months before he died passing all his notes and materials along to finish the series. 3 more books. Will have to wait and see.

I have never picked up Wheel. For reasons that include the cover art.

410 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:16pm

re: #402 Walter L. Newton

Do you like paperback or hardback?

411 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:32pm

re: #358 Flyers1974

Is that the one next to Grays? I did Grays. At least I did 12,000 feet.

No, Grays is South. Longs Peak is just west of Longmont (Boulder) - the most frequently climbed 14teener.

412 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:33pm

re: #396 Dianna

I took a date to see Neil Young at The Summit years ago and felt positively rude.

/we were the only two people that did not spark a doob immediately as the lights dimmed

413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:40pm

re: #405 realwest

Evening y'all - what all are we talking about?

How fucking awesome you are.

414 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:42pm

re: #385 Gus 802

Yep, and it's true, so I heard. Of the paradise that California once was. In natural settings I'm sure that's still true.

I suppose I might as well post a link to the song...

415 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:52:52pm

re: #406 HoosierHoops

Congratulations! I saw Kobe on the Tonight Show...They had to stop taping for awhile because of the uproar...
Kobe is in my top 10 players of all time..And it really pains me to say that


Hey, Hi ya Hoops! Who are the other 9 players in your top 10 list?

416 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:53:03pm

re: #412 OldLineTexan

Contact buzz.

417 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:53:04pm

re: #403 Dianna

The Last Resort starts in Colorado, moves to California, and finishes in Hawaii.

That's funny because I've pondered Hawaii. I've done California, and Colorado thus far.

418 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:53:33pm

re: #407 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Peter Jackson has produced a new sci-fi horror movie due out in August

What is it?

419 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:53:45pm

re: #405 realwest

Evening y'all - what all are we talking about?

FARRAH FAWCETT DIED. ;_;

420 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:53:48pm

re: #382 Gus 802

I don't really give too much of a rats ass if smoking is banned in restaurants, but I'd rather the owner of a private establishment be able to make that decision.

Bars on the other hand, that is completely ridiculous. They are supposed to be dens of vice. People in them, are not supposed to be overly concerned with their health. When I step foot in a bar, I'm making a conscious decision to spend the evening doing various unhealthy things. And as for the "safety of the workplace" nonsense... seriously, no one is forcing anyone to work there, and almost everyone I know that works in a bar not attached to a restaurant smokes themselves.

421 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:53:58pm

I know we have photographers and Photoshop experts on here and have a question. I've always like this picture with a vintage Buick and train, but it seems "too" pretty.
Train.

422 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:54:07pm

re: #413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How fucking awesome you are.

Now you know I'm not gonna believe that, seriously what are y'all talking about?

423 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:54:18pm

re: #381 Walter L. Newton

I'm on book one, Quicksilver, finished Cryptonomicon about a month ago.

I think you are going to love them. Neil is a clever boots. The book is about a lot of things, but includes the whole evolution of modern currency, markets, and bourses. And half-cocked Jack is a kick in the ass.

424 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:54:20pm

re: #414 lobo91

I suppose I might as well post a link to the song...

Thanks. For some reason the Eagles reminds me of Arizona. Maybe it's the lyrics or something. There's another state that "changed."

425 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:54:46pm

re: #402 Walter L. Newton

My girlfriend introduced me to his books. Over all, I like. He gets a bit over bearing sometimes (well, when he does, it's big time over bearing), but it's appears that if you stick them out, you won't be disappointed.

I'm probably a long way away from Anathem, since I am only about 1/3 the way through Quicksilver, and I still have The Confusion and The SYtem of the World in the Baroque Cycle.

Maybe Christmas time, a present, hint, hint (for anyone out there) :)

Edward Cullen would never get away with it around Buffy.

426 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:54:46pm

re: #409 Dianna

I have never picked up Wheel. For reasons that include the cover art.

I was bored while stuck in Okinawa in '95 and picked up one of the books without realizing what I was getting into. 2 days later, another guy saw me reading it and asked how I liked the rest of series. Told him I never read them. The next day, he dropped off the first 5 books and told me to get back to him when I was done.

427 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:55:05pm

re: #410 jaunte

Do you like paperback or hardback?

It doesn't matter. Seriously, I wasn't pimping for a free book, just jabbering. Like I said, I have about 2500 pages left in this series, I'm moving in July and so, it will be a while before I get to Anathem.

428 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:55:22pm

re: #421 avanti

I know we have photographers and Photoshop experts on here and have a question. I've always like this picture with a vintage Buick and train, but it seems "too" pretty.
Train.

Agreed. Looks more a painting than a photo.

429 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:55:53pm

re: #415 realwest

Hey, Hi ya Hoops! Who are the other 9 players in your top 10 list?

Dude! How did it go today?
/I'll put together a list in a minute

430 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:55:53pm

re: #396 Dianna

You haven't had fun until you're at the Fillmore for a concert and every idiot and his third cousin is lighting up joints.

As I said to a friend once, "If I lit a cigarette, I'd last about as long as a parent at a repressed memory convention."

I had that same thought watching Clapton and Winwood the other night at the Pepsi Center.

431 Kragar  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:55:55pm

re: #418 OldLineTexan

What is it?

District 9

432 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:55:57pm

re: #361 HoosierHoops

Sadly, Nicholson is too old now to experience the year after year after year frustration of not quite getting there. He can not live long enough to experience what I have, the bastid.

433 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:04pm

re: #422 realwest

Now you know I'm not gonna believe that, seriously what are y'all talking about?

No, really. There was a post earlier about how fucking awesome you are. But, since I am going to bed... I won't tell you where it is.

Seriously.

434 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:09pm

re: #420 ArchangelMichael

I don't really give too much of a rats ass if smoking is banned in restaurants, but I'd rather the owner of a private establishment be able to make that decision.

Bars on the other hand, that is completely ridiculous. They are supposed to be dens of vice. People in them, are not supposed to be overly concerned with their health. When I step foot in a bar, I'm making a conscious decision to spend the evening doing various unhealthy things. And as for the "safety of the workplace" nonsense... seriously, no one is forcing anyone to work there, and almost everyone I know that works in a bar not attached to a restaurant smokes themselves.

Yep. Was seeing that today. I was doing some work in an office today and who's out in the back of the bar smoking? The bar workers. I find it odd going to bar these days and not being able to smoke.

435 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:10pm

You know, FBV, I just called my mother to tell her how fucking awesome realwest is ... she's going in for a knee replacement in a couple of days, and I wanted to cheer her up!

436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:14pm

I won't tell you.

437 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:25pm

re: #424 Gus 802

Thanks. For some reason the Eagles reminds me of Arizona. Maybe it's the lyrics or something. There's another state that "changed."

You're thinking of "Take it Easy." Which was written by Jackson Browne, the quintessential California song writer.

438 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:55pm

re: #422 realwest

Love ya, man!

439 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:55pm

re: #427 Walter L. Newton

It's just a strange coincidence; I was going to send you Quicksilver as a thanks for the meteorite (about a month ago). Then I got into a huge project at work and did 3 weeks of 14 hour days and the plan sort of left my head.

440 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:56:56pm

re: #421 avanti
Well I'm no photoshop expert but I'd say that photo looks real to me. It's not too pretty, given the setting.
BTW, have you ever perused any of Ansel Adams photos? Some of them just take my breath away they are so magnificient and they were all in black and white.

441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:57:13pm

re: #438 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Love ya, man!

In a total "dude crush" kinda way.

442 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:57:15pm

re: #396 Dianna

You haven't had fun until you're at the Fillmore for a concert and every idiot and his third cousin is lighting up joints.

As I said to a friend once, "If I lit a cigarette, I'd last about as long as a parent at a repressed memory convention."

This is a case of cognitive dissonance that really pisses me off. Almost everyone I've known who is rabid anti-smoker smokes pot. If I try to point this out to them, they look at me with this "but this is natural and has vitamins in it and shit" expression on their face.

443 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:57:18pm

re: #423 austin_blue

I think you are going to love them. Neil is a clever boots. The book is about a lot of things, but includes the whole evolution of modern currency, markets, and bourses. And half-cocked Jack is a kick in the ass.

I just got to the 2nd story line, Jack and Eliza, just met and leaving Vienna, and yes, some of the most clever patter between those two that I have read in a long time.

(That sentence was badly constructed).

444 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:57:41pm

re: #437 Dianna

You're thinking of "Take it Easy." Which was written by Jackson Browne, the quintessential California song writer.

Maybe the song just stuck in my head. Winslow, AZ...

445 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:57:48pm

re: #430 lobo91

I had that same thought watching Clapton and Winwood the other night at the Pepsi Center.

I am so envious.

Though, come to think of it, that's one of the few concerts I could take my Male to, and both of us would enjoy it.

446 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:58:18pm

re: #437 Dianna

You're thinking of "Take it Easy." Which was written by Jackson Browne, the quintessential California song writer.

I'm standin' on a corner in Winslow, Arizona

447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:58:20pm

re: #444 Gus 802

Maybe the song just stuck in my head. Winslow, AZ...

What? You standin' on a corner?...

448 BatGuano  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:58:22pm

OT. Has any one read the SF novel: The Guns of the South, by Harry Turtledove, and if so could it not be a good movie?

449 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:58:30pm

re: #440 realwest

Well I'm no photoshop expert but I'd say that photo looks real to me. It's not too pretty, given the setting.
BTW, have you ever perused any of Ansel Adams photos? Some of them just take my breath away they are so magnificient and they were all in black and white.

I'm a real fan of him, he was a genus.

450 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:58:38pm

re: #372 Dark_Falcon

re: #394 Gus 802

I know how rabid an anti-smoker a person is when they ask me this question:

"Are you smoking?"

And I'm not smoking.

Absolutely, I've heard that one many times. I voluntarily gave up smoking in the house, although I didn't do it that much anyway and always by the window. Now she hates it if I'm anywhere near the door while outside. I guess I'm lucky she tolerates it at all though, she's one of those marathon/triatholon people. Always embarrasing to be at one of her marathons having a quick cigarette, everyone looking at me like I'm a freak. I'm going to quit anyway, no matter...one of these days.

451 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:58:59pm

re: #447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What? You standin' on a corner?...

Look! A flat-bed Ford!

/

452 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:15pm

On the subject, I just ran across this on YouTube. It's Phil Collins performing In The Air Tonight for Live Aid back in 1985. The interesting part; He's playing a piano and there are no drums to be heard. Have a listen:

453 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:16pm

I seem to be invisible today.

Ah well, gonna eat a late breakfast. Cheers.

454 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:16pm

re: #424 Gus 802

Thanks. For some reason the Eagles reminds me of Arizona. Maybe it's the lyrics or something. There's another state that "changed."

Possibly because their first big hit song was "Take It Easy" the opening line to which was something like "Well I'm standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona and there's such a fine sight to see - it's a girl my Lord in a flatbed Ford slowing down to take a look at me." ?!

455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:19pm

re: #451 Gus 802

slowin' down?

456 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:22pm

re: #432 The Shadow Do

Sadly, Nicholson is too old now to experience the year after year after year frustration of not quite getting there. He can not live long enough to experience what I have, the bastid.

Who was the 20 something blonde sitting next to him during the play-offs?

457 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:28pm

re: #425 lazardo
Love that! I am a huge Buffy fan (hence the nic).

It's getting late on the east coast, so I'm going to bail. My husband should be back from the airport with my oldest daughter pretty soon. She's going to be here 5 whole days before she moves to DC permanently. What's the opposite of schadenfreude?

458 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:28pm

re: #453 lazardo

I seem to be invisible today.

Ah well, gonna eat a late breakfast. Cheers.

I see you!

459 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:31pm

re: #442 ArchangelMichael

This is a case of cognitive dissonance that really pisses me off. Almost everyone I've known who is rabid anti-smoker smokes pot. If I try to point this out to them, they look at me with this "but this is natural and has vitamins in it and shit" expression on their face.

ha!

When they die of throat and stomach cancer, you won't laugh, but at least you'll know why.

460 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:59:36pm

re: #439 jaunte

It's just a strange coincidence; I was going to send you Quicksilver as a thanks for the meteorite (about a month ago). Then I got into a huge project at work and did 3 weeks of 14 hour days and the plan sort of left my head.

That's Ok, it's the thought. I'm 1/3 the way through Quicksilver. It's in the light booth at the theatre, I read it at supper time before the shows, so, I only manage about 40-50 pages a week.

461 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:00:15pm

re: #448 BatGuano

OT. Has any one read the SF novel: The Guns of the South, by Harry Turtledove, and if so could it not be a good movie?

It's an irritating piece of nonsense, but it would make a great movie. Particularly since it's just preachy enough.

462 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:00:19pm

re: #451 Gus 802

Look! A flat-bed Ford!

/

you're s'posed to notice the girl first

/

463 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:00:31pm

re: #445 Dianna

I am so envious.

Though, come to think of it, that's one of the few concerts I could take my Male to, and both of us would enjoy it.

It was a great show.

464 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:00:36pm

re: #455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

slowin' down?

To take a look at me...

465 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:00:56pm

re: #434 Gus 802

Yep. Was seeing that today. I was doing some work in an office today and who's out in the back of the bar smoking? The bar workers. I find it odd going to bar these days and not being able to smoke.

Last 2 times I was in a bar, I had to wait extraordinarily long amounts of time to get a drink because there was 1 guy tending bar, and 2-3 other bartenders outside smoking at any given time.

466 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:00:58pm

re: #456 HoosierHoops

Who was the 20 something blonde sitting next to him during the play-offs?

Hell, even he doesn't probably know.

467 Opilio  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:01:13pm

re: #421 avanti

I know we have photographers and Photoshop experts on here and have a question. I've always like this picture with a vintage Buick and train, but it seems "too" pretty.
Train.

On my monitor, it looks like a painting.

468 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:01:24pm

re: #440 realwest

Well I'm no photoshop expert but I'd say that photo looks real to me. It's not too pretty, given the setting.
BTW, have you ever perused any of Ansel Adams photos? Some of them just take my breath away they are so magnificient and they were all in black and white.

Ansel was a member of the F64 club. Dense grained B&W film, small apertures, long exposures. The unsung hero of his work was his wife who did most of the darkroom work but never got credit for the quality of the prints. It is often thus.

469 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:01:48pm

re: #446 OldLineTexan

I'm standin' on a corner in Winslow, Arizona

Such a fine sight to see.
It's a girl, my Lord, in a flat-bed Ford,
Slowin' down to have a look at me.

470 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:01:51pm

re: #465 ArchangelMichael

Last 2 times I was in a bar, I had to wait extraordinarily long amounts of time to get a drink because there was 1 guy tending bar, and 2-3 other bartenders outside smoking at any given time.

Whose leg do you have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

/I love Brian the Dog

471 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:02:07pm

re: #386 Floral Giraffe

That's a great pic!

It looks cool with the 3D glasses!

472 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:02:23pm

re: #429 HoosierHoops
It went like this: Densist - "Yep, I think you need a root canal on that tooth that hurts you so much but I don't do root canals, come back tomorrow at 2:00PM and Dr. SoandSo will do it and replace the crown."
BTW, Dr. SoandSo' wife just gave birth to triplets last Friday. Hope he can stay awake long enough to do what need to be done!

473 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:02:32pm

re: #456 HoosierHoops

Who was the 20 something blonde sitting next to him during the play-offs?

I retract my frustration comment.

/The bastid

474 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:02:40pm

re: #450 Flyers1974

re: #394 Gus 802

Absolutely, I've heard that one many times. I voluntarily gave up smoking in the house, although I didn't do it that much anyway and always by the window. Now she hates it if I'm anywhere near the door while outside. I guess I'm lucky she tolerates it at all though, she's one of those marathon/triatholon people. Always embarrasing to be at one of her marathons having a quick cigarette, everyone looking at me like I'm a freak. I'm going to quit anyway, no matter...one of these days.

My ex-gf was a runner. My smoking drove her crazy. But she also grew up around smoking since her father smoked all the time. He was one of those eat and smoke guys.

475 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:02:46pm

re: #469 Dianna

Gotta world of troubles on my mind.

476 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:03:24pm

re: #469 Dianna

Such a fine sight to see.
It's a girl, my Lord, in a flat-bed Ford,
Slowin' down to have a look at me.

Glenn Frey did the lyrics, JB did the music.

477 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:03:25pm

re: #454 realwest

Possibly because their first big hit song was "Take It Easy" the opening line to which was something like "Well I'm standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona and there's such a fine sight to see - it's a girl my Lord in a flatbed Ford slowing down to take a look at me." ?!

Second verse, real. And it was written by Jackson Browne. It's on For Everyman, too.

478 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:03:32pm

re: #467 Opilio

On my monitor, it looks like a painting.

That was my thought, but wondered if the old Buick was Photoshopped in.

479 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:03:55pm

re: #475 Mich-again

Gotta world of troubles on my mind.

I'm looking for a lover who won't blow my cover -
He's just a little hard to find.

480 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:03:56pm

re: #433 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No, really. There was a post earlier about how fucking awesome you are. But, since I am going to bed... I won't tell you where it is.

Seriously.


Uh huh. No nic names or threads or anything, I tells ya FBV, I ain't as stupid as I seem!

481 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:04:02pm

re: #465 ArchangelMichael

Last 2 times I was in a bar, I had to wait extraordinarily long amounts of time to get a drink because there was 1 guy tending bar, and 2-3 other bartenders outside smoking at any given time.

That's a hoot.

482 BatGuano  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:04:19pm

re: #461 Dianna

It's an irritating piece of nonsense, but it would make a great movie. Particularly since it's just preachy enough.

Preachy it is! I agree it could be a great move.

483 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:04:27pm

re: #448 BatGuano

OT. Has any one read the SF novel: The Guns of the South, by Harry Turtledove, and if so could it not be a good movie?

Good book, but I don't know if you could get the needed cast for the movie. Who would you cast for the roles?

Some picks by me:

James Longstreet: Tom Berenger (he did well in the role in Gettysburg

Nathan Bedford Forrest: Christan Bale (you want nasty intense for that man, and Bale can deliver that).

Others?

484 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:11pm

re: #307 Walter L. Newton

Photoshopped. AD is photoshopped onto the top of the vehicle. Look at the woman, she is casting a shadow in front of her (arm), so the sun is behind her, yet AD right arm, which is in front of him, should be casting a defined line against his grey jacket, somewhere in his right chest area. No shadow.

Isn't what you're calling a shadow a reflection of her arm in the chrome?

485 CynicalConservative  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:15pm

re: #478 avanti

That was my thought, but wondered if the old Buick was Photoshopped in.

Looks like the standard "perfect" picture that libs and dems want us all to buy into.

:-)

486 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:23pm

re: #478 avanti

Since they could likely predict when the train would be there, it's probably one shot. They may have tried it a couple of times before the air was so clear, though.

487 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:26pm

re: #441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

In a total "dude crush" kinda way.

Whew, y'all had me worried for a minute there!
/

488 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:36pm
489 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:41pm

re: #469 Dianna

Such a fine sight to see.
It's a girl, my Lord, in a flat-bed Ford,
Slowin' down to have a look at me.

Of course, if you've ever been to Winslow, you know that song's about all it has going for it...

490 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:05:42pm

re: #472 realwest

It went like this: Densist - "Yep, I think you need a root canal on that tooth that hurts you so much but I don't do root canals, come back tomorrow at 2:00PM and Dr. SoandSo will do it and replace the crown."
BTW, Dr. SoandSo' wife just gave birth to triplets last Friday. Hope he can stay awake long enough to do what need to be done!

Sorry to hear that.....I think about ya
Wanna hear my top 10? Really?

491 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:06:01pm

re: #476 austin_blue

Glenn Frey did the lyrics, JB did the music.

Really? So far as I know, JB did all of it.

492 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:06:17pm

re: #467 Opilio

On my monitor, it looks like a painting.

I don't know where they got a steam train running in the winter like that, but it certainly looks real. The shadows from the smoke seems spot on, the shadows from all other objects in the picture are proportional, and even the "melt" of the snow is all in the right direction, suggesting a afternoon southern sun (same direction as the shadows).

I think it's real.

493 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:06:49pm

re: #472 realwest

GACK! I hate dental work!

494 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:06:53pm

Dang it - where is Ojoe?
Towercam

495 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:07:18pm

re: #473 The Shadow Do

I retract my frustration comment.

/The bastid

she was there every game next to him..Maybe his daughter....

496 Opilio  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:07:22pm

re: #446 OldLineTexan

I'm standin' on a corner in Winslow, Arizona

This Corner?

497 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:07:44pm

re: #495 HoosierHoops

she was there every game next to him..Maybe his daughter....

Nurse.

/

Goodnight!

498 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:07:45pm

re: #485 CynicalConservative

Looks like the standard "perfect" picture that libs and dems want us all to buy into.

:-)

No, too much C02 from the coal burning locomotive and the pre emission control Buick. It's a tree huggers nightmare.

499 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:07:50pm

re: #484 Noam Sayin'

Isn't what you're calling a shadow a reflection of her arm in the chrome?

Now that you say that, yes it could be.

500 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:07:50pm

re: #411 The Shadow Do

No, Grays is South. Longs Peak is just west of Longmont (Boulder) - the most frequently climbed 14teener.

Got it. It is a beautiful mountain, first one I was ever on. It still had quite a bit of snow, and it started snowing while I was going up. It was an interesting experience. We parked the car about 2 miles from the start point and that walk was the steepest part of the whole thing. I thought I wouldn't get much further than the start point, but then I got pissed and made it to 12,000. I could have made it all the way, but for the time factor - although I hadn't hit the point where the altitude starts seriously messing with your mind, so who knows.

501 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:08:10pm

re: #468 austin_blue
Huh, I didn't know that his wife did most of the darkroom work! Still and all, a genius with a camera!

502 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:08:12pm

re: #481 Gus 802

That's a hoot.

Didn't seem that way to me at the time, but after the fact I guess so. Being one of those Seinfeld "low-talkers" doesn't help me to get the single non-smoking bartender's attention either.

503 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:08:25pm

re: #496 Opilio

This Corner?

bloody excellent

504 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:08:26pm

re: #495 HoosierHoops

she was there every game next to him..Maybe his daughter....

Sure, sure, sure....

505 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:09:04pm

re: #499 Walter L. Newton

Now that you say that, yes it could be.

Looks like the light source is from the high right in both portions of the pic.

But I certainly couldn't tell you if it's photoshopped.

506 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:09:30pm

re: #469 {Dianna} C'mon Baaaby, don't say maaybe".

507 freetoken  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:09:49pm

re: #498 avanti

The art of photography is the art of the visual lie.

508 CynicalConservative  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:10:04pm

re: #498 avanti

No, too much C02 from the coal burning locomotive and the pre emission control Buick. It's a tree huggers nightmare.

No worries, just couldn't resist taking a poke at ya, perfect opportunity and all with the "perfect" picture.

Kudos on the Karma recovery. Impressive to be sure...

509 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:10:33pm

re: #506 realwest

C'mon Baaaby, don't say maaybe".

We may lose and we may win,
But we will never be here again..

510 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:10:41pm

re: #502 ArchangelMichael

Didn't seem that way to me at the time, but after the fact I guess so. Being one of those Seinfeld "low-talkers" doesn't help me to get the single non-smoking bartender's attention either.

I hear ya'. I thought it was a hoot because that was part of the sales pitch in Colorado: to protect the health of the bar workers.

511 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:10:43pm

re: #498 avanti

No, too much C02 from the coal burning locomotive and the pre emission control Buick. It's a tree huggers nightmare.

That's avanti: Liberal but not a tree hugger. The only picture he'd like better would be an Avanti outrunning a train. ;)

512 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:10:49pm

re: #492 Walter L. Newton

I don't know where they got a steam train running in the winter like that, but it certainly looks real. The shadows from the smoke seems spot on, the shadows from all other objects in the picture are proportional, and even the "melt" of the snow is all in the right direction, suggesting a afternoon southern sun (same direction as the shadows).

I think it's real.

It's real...

Photo ID: 177612 Photo of the Week · People's Choice 1

Locomotive:

Heber Valley Railroad
Steam 2-8-0
Location/Date of Photo:

Edwards Lane
Heber City, Utah, USA
February 06, 2007
Locomotive No./Train ID

618
Unknown Photographer:

Michael F. Allen
Contact Michael F. Allen
+ Add to Favorites

Remarks: The secret is out, the Heber Valley is the place to be for winter steam photography! Annie Bruehl waits at the Edwards Lane crossing for UP 618 to pass by her completely original 1953 Buick.

[Link: www.railpictures.net...]

513 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:11:22pm

And you thought California was bad?

Toronto's new green roof law a first for North America

In a first for a North American city, Toronto recently passed a new law mandating "green" rooftops for all new developments. Any new construction with floorspace of more than 2,000 square meters must devote between 20 and 60 percent of its roof to vegetation. The rule applies to residential, commercial, industrial and institutional structures.

514 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:11:31pm

re: #483 Dark_Falcon

Good book, but I don't know if you could get the needed cast for the movie. Who would you cast for the roles?

Some picks by me:

James Longstreet: Tom Berenger (he did well in the role in Gettysburg

Nathan Bedford Forrest: Christan Bale (you want nasty intense for that man, and Bale can deliver that).

Others?

The Vienna Boys Choir as the New York Irish division humping down the road into the first engagement with the Rebs with automatic rifles at Chancellorsville. Death of the innocents. Sasha Baron Cohen as Hooker. Lucky Luciano as Thomas Jackson (He lives this time!)

Turtledove does interesting stuff. His alternate history books are fascinating, and at this point they are *all* alternate history.

515 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:11:42pm

re: #477 Dianna UM, ok if you say so, but my memory of old rock and roll songs is pretty damn good and I still think that's the opening lines!

516 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:11:59pm

re: #513 Racer X

And you thought California was bad?

Pot Farm.

517 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:12:29pm

re: #500 Flyers1974

Got it. It is a beautiful mountain, first one I was ever on. It still had quite a bit of snow, and it started snowing while I was going up. It was an interesting experience. We parked the car about 2 miles from the start point and that walk was the steepest part of the whole thing. I thought I wouldn't get much further than the start point, but then I got pissed and made it to 12,000. I could have made it all the way, but for the time factor - although I hadn't hit the point where the altitude starts seriously messing with your mind, so who knows.

Most folks don't realize how quickly these mountains can mess you up. Even the ones with the well traveled trails.

518 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:12:54pm

re: #516 Walter L. Newton

Hell yeah.

/ q;

519 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:13:04pm
520 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:13:15pm

So the honeymoon is over?

BERLIN (Reuters) – A Polish couple living in Germany fell out after tying the knot and decided to end their marriage on the same day.

"He said he never wanted to see her again and wanted an immediate annulment, and she said the same thing," a spokesman for police in the northern city of Hanover said Thursday.

I hate when that happens

/what happens in vegas..

521 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:13:23pm

re: #484 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! How are ya buddy! Didja get my e-mail about maybe changing your avatar to that photo?!

522 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:13:24pm

re: #513 Racer X

And you thought California was bad?

Let's add not only the cost of installation but maintenance of both the landscaping and the structure below. Yep, should be cheap. /

523 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:13:47pm

re: #516 Walter L. Newton

Pot Farm.

Hahaha!

You're thinking of Vancouver.

524 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:14:31pm

re: #512 Walter L. Newton

That bullet-train one right above it is cool. Like some glowy-eyed dragon-snake from an anime.

525 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:14:37pm

re: #490 HoosierHoops
YES - I REALLY want to hear your top 10 - so's I can compare it with mine! LOL!

526 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:14:53pm

re: #512 Walter L. Newton

Heber Valley RR: this looks good:

Cool off a hot summer day with this fun activity for ages 3 and above. Enjoy a scenic ride from Heber to Vivian Park, raft the renowned Provo River with experienced guides through Class I and II rapids, visit the famed Sundance Resort, then catch a return shuttle to the depot.


[Link: www.hebervalleyrr.org...]

527 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:15:01pm

re: #515 realwest

UM, ok if you say so, but my memory of old rock and roll songs is pretty damn good and I still think that's the opening lines!

First verse:

Well, I'm a-runnin' down the road
Tryin to loosen my load,
I've got seven women on my mind:
four who want to own me,
Two who want to stone me,
One says she's a friend of mine.
Take it easy, take it easy,
Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy...

528 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:16:06pm

re: #491 Dianna

Really? So far as I know, JB did all of it.

Nah, from a review:

The opening medley of "Take It Easy" and "Our Lady of the Well" is a quiet tapestry of sound textures. Though the lyrics to "Take It Easy" are Glenn Frey's, Jackson sings the song with far more subtlety, and with an appropriate road-weariness that the Eagles' version lacked.

One of his few collaborations.

529 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:16:17pm

OT: Was David Carridine the third in a string of celebrity deaths?

530 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:16:33pm

re: #496 Opilio
Now that is a HOOT! Well actually, I guess Winslow finally got a tourist site! LOL!

531 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:16:51pm

re: #474 Gus 802

My ex-gf was a runner. My smoking drove her crazy. But she also grew up around smoking since her father smoked all the time. He was one of those eat and smoke guys.

Same with me, so the idea wasn't foreign to her. But she is German, so a wee bit militant about such weaknesses. But I will admit, the spousely peer pressure, if you will, has probably kept me from smoking more. The difficulty is, when I have to think, I want to smoke.

532 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:16:52pm

re: #526 jaunte

Heber Valley RR: this looks good:


[Link: www.hebervalleyrr.org...]

The river stuff looks fun. Where I am moving into the Rocky Mountains next month, I'll be about 20 minutes from the North Fork of the South Platte River. Great access just about 15 miles below where I'll be living.

533 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:16:58pm

re: #512 Walter L. Newton

It's real...

Photo ID: 177612 Photo of the Week · People's Choice 1

Locomotive:

Heber Valley Railroad
Steam 2-8-0
Location/Date of Photo:

Edwards Lane
Heber City, Utah, USA
February 06, 2007
Locomotive No./Train ID

618
Unknown Photographer:

Michael F. Allen
Contact Michael F. Allen
+ Add to Favorites

Remarks: The secret is out, the Heber Valley is the place to be for winter steam photography! Annie Bruehl waits at the Edwards Lane crossing for UP 618 to pass by her completely original 1953 Buick.

Thanks Walter, I got the pix in a e-mail and had no idea where it came from.
I was convinced it was a painting, every aspect was just too nice. Maybe it was tweaked later.

534 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:17:15pm

re: #514 austin_blue

The Vienna Boys Choir as the New York Irish division humping down the road into the first engagement with the Rebs with automatic rifles at Chancellorsville. Death of the innocents. Sasha Baron Cohen as Hooker. Lucky Luciano as Thomas Jackson (He lives this time!)

Turtledove does interesting stuff. His alternate history books are fascinating, and at this point they are *all* alternate history.

The Man With the Iron Heart was especially interesting. Reinhard Heidrich survives his assassination attempt in Prague and leads a Nazi guerrilla movement postwar. Fairly well done and a decent look at how such a war at a different time in our history might have looked.

(The Nazi bastard is killed in the end, but it doesn't turn out very well even so. I don't remember if Patton survives, but I think he does.)

535 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:17:43pm

re: #528 austin_blue

I did not know that.

I could have sworn that on the credits...oh, whatever.

536 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:17:54pm

re: #525 realwest

YES - I REALLY want to hear your top 10 - so's I can compare it with mine! LOL!

MJ and Kobe at Guards....
Bill Russell and Shaq at Center
Bird and Magic at Forwards....
You give me the next 4....

537 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:17:55pm

re: #529 Dianna

OT: Was David Carridine the third in a string of celebrity deaths?

I think most people are saying McMahon, Fawcett, Jackson.

538 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:18:38pm

re: #509 Mich-again
"So open up I'm climbing in, take it easy!"

539 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:18:39pm

Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?

540 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:18:55pm

re: #533 avanti

Thanks Walter, I got the pix in a e-mail and had no idea where it came from.
I was convinced it was a painting, every aspect was just too nice. Maybe it was tweaked later.

Color and stuff like that probably was since it's obviously a digital photograph.

541 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:19:28pm

re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee

Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?

Rev. Wright has not been available to comment.

//

542 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:19:39pm

re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee

"The Zionists assassinated Michael Jackson so the world will be distracted while the Great Satan meddles in the affairs of our glorious Islamic Republic!"

/also, mom commented that Dinnerjacket got lucky with all the coverage of MJ's death.

543 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:19:44pm

re: #537 austin_blue

I think most people are saying McMahon, Fawcett, Jackson.

I'm talking w/ my brother. He was wondering if Carridine should be included in the triplet. I said he finished another, I thought? And I would ask. So I ask.

544 BatGuano  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:19:45pm

re: #483 Dark_Falcon

Robert E. Lee: Kevin Spacey.
Nate Caudell: Leonardo Dicaprio
Nathan Bedford Forrest: Tom Hanks, (seriously, he would be good).

545 blackpajamas  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:19:58pm

Thursday night, time for some hee haw.

546 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:19:58pm

re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee

Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?

No, but I did hear a radio talk show host suggest that it won't take long for someone to add a racial spin to his death.

547 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:20:27pm

re: #545 blackpajamas

Thursday night, time for some hee haw.

What's her name?

548 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:20:44pm

re: #507 freetoken
Ah, no. Unless you're talking photoshop or darkroom tricks.
The lens acurately reflects what's there, not what you see - your emotions "see it" differently. I say this with GREAT CONFIDENCE after shooting maybe 5,000 exposures in B&W and doing my own darkroom work!

549 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:20:57pm

re: #540 Walter L. Newton

Color and stuff like that probably was since it's obviously a digital photograph.

Maybe the lettering on the crossing sign too.

550 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:21:10pm

re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee

Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?

He's too western for Islamists to claim, but I'm expecting Alex Jones to come out with some bizarre theory. He'll probably debut in at a Tea Party.

/channeling Kilgore on that last one

551 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:21:38pm

re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee

Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?

Or Bush?
Halliburton?
KBR?
Blackwater?

552 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:22:13pm

re: #550 Dark_Falcon

He's too western for Islamists to claim, but I'm expecting Alex Jones to come out with some bizarre theory. He'll probably debut in at a Tea Party.

/channeling Kilgore on that last one

Whoa, I almost down dinged you for that until I saw the sarc sentence.

553 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:22:24pm

re: #517 The Shadow Do

Most folks don't realize how quickly these mountains can mess you up. Even the ones with the well traveled trails.

I do feel it messed with my brain a little - I remember being emotional for know apparent reason. And at some point I decided I'd go to the top even if it got dark which wasn't rational. In my case, I met my wife when she was coming down, so I turned around. But I can definitly see how someone at a higher altitude could start making really bad decisions.

554 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:22:49pm

re: #534 Dark_Falcon

The Man With the Iron Heart was especially interesting. Reinhard Heidrich survives his assassination attempt in Prague and leads a Nazi guerrilla movement postwar. Fairly well done and a decent look at how such a war at a different time in our history might have looked.

(The Nazi bastard is killed in the end, but it doesn't turn out very well even so. I don't remember if Patton survives, but I think he does.)

Haven't seen that one. Recently finished his diptych on the Hawaiian islands where the Japanese invade and occupy for a year or so after Pearl. Good stuff.

555 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:22:49pm

re: #512 Walter L. Newton
Sonofagun - you never cease to amaze me Walter! HOW in the hell did you find that information out?

556 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:23:07pm

re: #550 Dark_Falcon

He's too western for Islamists to claim, but I'm expecting Alex Jones to come out with some bizarre theory. He'll probably debut in at a Tea Party.

/channeling Kilgore on that last one

Didn't he start living in Bahrain for a while after the trial?

557 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:23:12pm

re: #546 Walter L. Newton

No, but I did hear a radio talk show host suggest that it won't take long for someone to add a racial spin to his death.

With two famous white women dying today, we might start seeing a celebrity serial killer conspiracy theory emerge.

558 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:23:19pm

re: #550 Dark_Falcon

Alex Jones: The Council on Foreign Relations had an MJ-12 operative put a sekrit toxin in his Jesus Juice to induce a heart attack.

/TROOF!

559 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:23:58pm

re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee

Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?

Didn't Michael stiff some Dubai businessmen on a business deal recently?

Hmm...

560 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:24:13pm

re: #555 realwest

Sonofagun - you never cease to amaze me Walter! HOW in the hell did you find that information out?

Google images. I googled "buick steam train snow" and came up with the photo and the link to the page.

561 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:25:06pm

re: #552 Walter L. Newton

Whoa, I almost down dinged you for that until I saw the sarc sentence.

Satire is my chosen method to back him off his Tea Party obsession. Hopefully, it settles him down a bit.

562 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:25:34pm

re: #560 Walter L. Newton

Google images. I googled "buick steam train snow" and came up with the photo and the link to the page.

That site is like the Airliners.net of trains. Nice place.

563 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:25:42pm

re: #527 Dianna
Sigh. Damn. Memory is now shot to hell too!
:)

564 blackpajamas  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:26:00pm

______ For Those About To Mock ______

Hello Denver! Look at you, you're a great crowd, really a-buzz and vibrant!

Kind of like gawkers at a dildo factory fire.


Hey, did you hear that Michael Jackson just died? Apparently his fans are very distraught.

It's going to be tough finding a two dozen kids to bear his coffin on short notice.


Anyway, speaking about the real tragedies of the day (and lifetime), how about a round, salvo, and barrage for our "heros", those sacred servants of self-service, the American politician!


What's the difference between a politician and a fire hydrant?

Dog's won't sniff a politician before they urinate on them.


Why did the politician bounce so high after he was thrown from the state house roof?

He hit a taxpayer's check book.


Speaking of block-busters, did you hear about the new movie where zombies roam the earth indiscriminately delivering campaign junk mail?

Current Resident Evil.


And now checking in with the Department of Monumental Stupidity, Liberals in San Francisco campaigned to name a sewage plant after George Bush.

Now Congress wants to rename the them all over the country; to tax shelters.


Speaking of relief, how many cigarettes can the Congress of Baboons smoke in one day?

It depends on how many blind folds you bring.


John Wayne, Bruce Lee, Clint Eastwood, and Barney Frank are seated together in an airplane.

The intercom crackles, "Folks, this is your pilot speaking, we might need to evacuate the plane, please stay calm."

While the passengers start to panic, John Wayne pulls out a cigar, asks folks for a light, and grins his teeth at the earth below.

Bruce Lee enters a calm meditative state, exclaiming, "The best parachute in life is self reliance and responsibility, I don't need a nicotine crutch, or to beg others for fire".

Barney Frank jumps out of his seat, stomping up and down the aisles screaming, "Give me all your money, all your money now! We can weave parachutes!".

Clint Eastwood just calmly starts whistling. The other passengers turn to him, "How can you be so calm at a time like this?"

Clint Eastwood squints into the sun, and replies, you should see him after we take off.


Thank you Denver! Please tip your webmaster until your credit card bills says, "One taxpayer at a time!".

(Love the veal, love the veal, and fruit cup *Nom, nom, nom, nom ...*)

565 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:26:11pm

re: #558 ArchangelMichael

Alex Jones: The Council on Foreign Relations had an MJ-12 operative put a sekrit toxin in his Jesus Juice to induce a heart attack.

/TROOF!

LOL, but Jones is loopy enough to say something like that.

566 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:26:53pm

re: #565 Dark_Falcon

LOL, but Jones is loopy enough to say something like that.

First line:

"I question the timing."

//

567 Racer X  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:27:01pm
568 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:27:50pm

re: #567 Racer X

The Beatles rooftop concert from 1969

Where's the xeriscaping?

/

569 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:27:58pm

re: #564 blackpajamas

LMAO! Superlatively good!

570 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:28:02pm

re: #529 Dianna
No, I think it was Ed McMahon, Farrah and MJ.
Don't know yet where to put Carridine's death. That or even the old "celebrity deaths come in three's" has been inflated by Obama to four!

571 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:28:28pm

re: #566 Gus 802

First line:

"I question the timing."

//

Reply; Mr. Jones, I question your sanity.

572 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:28:30pm

re: #539 Mad Al-Jaffee

Has anyone blamed Michael Jackon's death on Israel yet?

....Never(land) Again.....

573 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:28:47pm

re: #570 realwest

No, I think it was Ed McMahon, Farrah and MJ.
Don't know yet where to put Carridine's death. That or even the old "celebrity deaths come in three's" has been inflated by Obama to four!

Sounds good. I'll tell my brother that.

574 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:29:13pm

Well, it's been virtual, to bed, my work week starts tomorrow, my "weekend" is over. Bye. I stop in off and on between shows. Avanti, work on that Karma, it's almost in the black (maybe Obama should take some advice from you) and Lazardo, stay away from the wacky weed, and Dark_Falcon, smother KT with satire and love, and HH, love ya.

All.

575 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:29:26pm

re: #570 realwest

No, I think it was Ed McMahon, Farrah and MJ.
Don't know yet where to put Carridine's death. That or even the old "celebrity deaths come in three's" has been inflated by Obama to four!

He can alter the rules as he wishes, for he is The One!

/sarc

576 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:29:26pm

re: #571 Dark_Falcon

Reply; Mr. Jones, I question your sanity.

Better check and see the mercury content of Demerol.

//

577 blackpajamas  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:30:44pm

re: #569 Dark_Falcon

LMAO! Superlatively good!

Well, I'm glad you liked it.

(I think I might need to go repent now for the Michael Jackson joke).

578 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:30:52pm

re: #566 Gus 802

First line:

"I question the timing."

//

I've lived in this town for twenty years and have never seen that nudnick. I think he spends most of his time in a basement dreaming up Bilderbergers.

579 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:30:59pm

re: #574 Walter L. Newton

Awwww.

/nighty

580 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:31:17pm

David Carridine could be grouped with Koko Taylor and Kenny Rankin.

581 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:31:19pm

re: #575 Dark_Falcon

1 + 1 + 1 = 4.

/otherwise it's room 1-0-1.

582 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:31:34pm

re: #574 Walter L. Newton

Well, it's been virtual, to bed, my work week starts tomorrow, my "weekend" is over. Bye. I stop in off and on between shows. Avanti, work on that Karma, it's almost in the black (maybe Obama should take some advice from you) and Lazardo, stay away from the wacky weed, and Dark_Falcon, smother KT with satire and love, and HH, love ya.

All.

Wow, was that pimping for karma points or what LOL :)

583 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:32:29pm

re: #553 Flyers1974

I do feel it messed with my brain a little - I remember being emotional for know apparent reason. And at some point I decided I'd go to the top even if it got dark which wasn't rational. In my case, I met my wife when she was coming down, so I turned around. But I can definitly see how someone at a higher altitude could start making really bad decisions.

We took our Sheltie up to the top of Pike's Peak once (in the car, of course). She was staggering a bit by the time we left to go back down.

Not sure if it afected her decision-making processes...

584 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:32:41pm

re: #507 freetoken

The art of photography is the art of the visual lie.

Errol Morris has an excellent blog about photography, truth, and deception. Cool stuff.

[Link: morris.blogs.nytimes.com...]

585 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:32:46pm

re: #578 austin_blue

I've lived in this town for twenty years and have never seen that nudnick. I think he spends most of his time in a basement dreaming up Bilderbergers.

That's only because Illuminatis can see Bilderbergers.

Or is that the other way around?

/

586 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:33:00pm

re: #574 Walter L. Newton

Night Walter.

587 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:33:05pm

I hate it when the screen suddenly goes black and the computer shuts down.
Brownouts. The high temp today in Houston was 102.

588 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:33:41pm

re: #585 Gus 802

That's only because Illuminatis can see Bilderbergers.

Or is that the other way around?

/

Ack! That way lies madness!

589 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:33:49pm

re: #536 HoosierHoops
Shoot. Well give me a few minutes here Hoops. But I'd think Malone would go in at forward, Clyde Frazier at Guard, Willis Reed at Center and either "Earl the pearl Monroe"* or John Stockton at guard. Or maybe Bob Couzy.

* I helped the Knicks management negotiate Pearl's contract, so I might be prejudiced there!
And shoot, between us, we have only 10 or 11 of the top 50 NBA players of all time.

590 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:34:10pm

re: #580 solomonpanting

David Carridine could be grouped with Koko Taylor and Kenny Rankin.

Thank you.

So it's David Carridine, Koko Taylor and Kenny Rankin; then we list the next triplet as Ed McMahon, Farah Fawcett and Michael Jackson?

591 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:34:14pm

re: #553 Flyers1974

What's the altitude of LaPaz, Bolivia? This could explain why Evo Morales was elected....

592 legalpad  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:35:03pm

re: #587 jaunte

I hate it when the screen suddenly goes black and the computer shuts down.
Brownouts. The high temp today in Houston was 102.

What part of Houston are you in?

593 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:35:47pm

Well, well, well,

It seems our local admitted felony and congress critter, one Baghdad Jim McDimwitt has been getting preferential tax treatment.

Are wealthy politicians paying their "fair share"

A listener sent me a tip about a piece of property owned by congressman Jim McDermott. A 9 1/2 acre view parcel that overlooks Maury Island. The tipster said the congressman says the congressman paid $495,000 for the property. That is confirmed by this review of King County sales records

The only time we are certain what the value of a property is is when that property sells. It is worth what someone is willing to pay.

And yet a review of King County tax records for this parcel indicates that it is being assessed at about half of what Congressman McDermott paid for the parcel. $248,000 in 2007, $250,000 in 2008, and $250,000 in 2009.

My assessment went up again this year, despite the down turn in housing prices.

594 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:36:35pm

re: #590 Dianna

I suppose.
Seems a bit morbid, though, comprising "groups" of those who have passed.
:(

595 Opilio  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:36:39pm

re: #581 lazardo

1 + 1 + 1 = 4.

/otherwise it's room 1-0-1.

I'm nearly certain that the Beatles said that one and one and one is three...

596 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:36:57pm

re: #592 legalpad

Spring Branch-ish.

597 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:37:10pm

re: #583 lobo91

I've read once you get past 13,000 and up every decision takes longer to make. I've never been that far up myself though.

598 Macker  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:38:48pm

re: #9 Dar ul Harb

That was evil mastermind Arlen Specter Sphincter, wasn't it?

/

There, fixed that for ya!

599 legalpad  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:39:43pm

re: #596 jaunte

Spring Branch-ish.

Daughter lives in that area. I grew up in Houston as well.

600 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:39:54pm

re: #591 Fenway_Nation

What's the altitude of LaPaz, Bolivia? This could explain why Evo Morales was elected....

I had to google him to see who he is, completely forgot about him.

601 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:40:10pm

re: #594 solomonpanting

I suppose.
Seems a bit morbid, though, comprising "groups" of those who have passed.
:(

I address superstitions, whether they are morbid or not.

Come to think of it, most superstitions are morbid.

602 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:40:41pm

re: #599 legalpad

I came here from Venezuela, but I've been here a long time, living on the west side.

603 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:41:41pm

re: #580 solomonpanting

David Carridine could be grouped with Koko Taylor and Kenny Rankin.


Oh just great, memory's really shot now, who the heck was Koko Taylor?

604 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:42:14pm

re: #587 jaunte

I hate it when the screen suddenly goes black and the computer shuts down.
Brownouts. The high temp today in Houston was 102.

106 today in Austin. Projecting the same tomorrow. 105 yesterday. Brutal. Heat indexes well above 110.

605 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:42:22pm

re: #597 Flyers1974

I've read once you get past 13,000 and up every decision takes longer to make. I've never been that far up myself though.

I have to wonder about the people who work up there. There's a gift shop/snack bar and a weather station on top of the mountain.

606 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:42:42pm

re: #604 austin_blue

This is when Barton Springs really comes in handy.

607 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:42:54pm

re: #603 realwest

Koko Taylor

608 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:42:56pm

re: #593 jcm

Unfortunately, SSDD, for our elected officials.
Equality is NOT in their dictionary.
We are "the little people" to them.

609 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:43:22pm

Good night, everyone.

610 legalpad  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:43:28pm

re: #604 austin_blue

106 today in Austin. Projecting the same tomorrow. 105 yesterday. Brutal. Heat indexes well above 110.

I worked 10 hrs in 112 degree weather at LBJ Library a few years back. I t was interesting.

611 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:43:58pm

re: #608 Floral Giraffe

Unfortunately, SSDD, for our elected officials.
Equality is NOT in their dictionary.
We are "the little people" to them.

Ah, thank you for the clarification.

I just I misunderstood "spread the wealth."

612 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:44:33pm

Hey look. Remember this from Zombie's blog a couple of weeks ago? It's on Fox now...

'Capitalism Will Fail,' Marijuana Leaf Part of California School Mosaic

613 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:44:44pm

re: #609 Flyers1974

Sleep well, Flyers!

614 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:44:44pm

re: #609 Flyers1974

Night! Don't let the altitude sickness bite!

615 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:44:45pm

re: #605 lobo91

I guess thay get used to it, but I've heard you can develope altitude sickness at any time, no matter how used to it you are.

616 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:44:46pm

re: #604 austin_blue

106 today in Austin. Projecting the same tomorrow. 105 yesterday. Brutal. Heat indexes well above 110.

It was around 100 today out at McGregorstan. Probably still in the upper 80s now that I'm back at my hotel in El Paso.

Fortunately, I'm switching to the night shift starting tomorrow.

617 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:45:54pm

I may not be able to stay up late enough to see avanti move into positive territory, so here's the vid I found for him.

Tet, 1968. How the Newport News used her 3-inch guns to shell VC positions in Hue. Avanti's ship's contribution to one of Vietnam's bloodiest battles:

618 Sambo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:46:19pm

re: #593 jcm

I think McDermott is also the representative with the touchy secretary, Elizabeth Becton. Tough times in his office, I guess.

619 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:46:54pm

re: #595 Opilio

I'm nearly certain that the Beatles said that one and one and one is three...

Hmmm. They definitely said the one after nine o' nine.

And one two three four five six seven, all good children go to heaven....

620 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:47:21pm

re: #587 jaunte

I hate it when the screen suddenly goes black and the computer shuts down.
Brownouts. The high temp today in Houston was 102.

similar in Baton Rouge today.
It's been miserable, just miserable.

621 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:47:40pm

re: #618 Sambo

I think McDermott is also the representative with the touchy secretary, Elizabeth Becton. Tough times in his office, I guess.

Yep, that the one. Maybe I should call Liz and ask about Jim Bo's property taxes, I sure could use a break.

622 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:49:23pm

re: #593 jcm
Ah well, finally something I think I can speak authoritatively about!
In most place, real estate evaluation for real property taxes bears no resemblance at all to the real VALUE of the property.
For example, in NYC, homes are assessed (the real estate tax evaluation) currently at about 25% or so of Market Value. That's so the politicians can say "We're not going to raise your real estate taxes" meaning the percentage of tax won't go up. But they'll increase the assessed valuation so you do pay more in real property taxes and the politicians haven't really lied: the amount of tax per assessed valuation stays the same, it's just that the assessed valuation goes up, as does your tax bill!

623 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:49:35pm

re: #616 lobo91

It was around 100 today out at McGregorstan. Probably still in the upper 80s now that I'm back at my hotel in El Paso.

Fortunately, I'm switching to the night shift starting tomorrow.

Dude, I would KILL for your humidity. The last few days have been like living in a convection oven. Also, the drought is so bad they are considering closing all the boat ramps on Lake Travis. Right now, the water is a 1/4 mile away from the asphalt.

624 jaunte  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:50:57pm

re: #620 reine.de.tout

I hope you're staying cool; I've been inside working until dark, so I don't feel it much.

Good night all.

625 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:51:59pm

re: #607 solomonpanting
Thankew, thankew very much. But I never heard of her nor of her passing.

626 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:52:07pm

I confess to sitting and listening to Weird Al parodies of MJ songs. Then we wandered off into pure Weird Al.

Ode to a Superhero, f'r instance.

627 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:53:15pm

re: #620 reine.de.tout

Hi Reine, can I ask for the details of your dental issues? My nic is blue. I have 2 molars that had crowns & root canals & still do not feel right, after a year. And I am a major dental weenie......

628 Sambo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:54:05pm

re: #626 Dianna

I like this one:

629 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:54:27pm

re: #627 Floral Giraffe

Hi Reine, can I ask for the details of your dental issues? My nic is blue. I have 2 molars that had crowns & root canals & still do not feel right, after a year. And I am a major dental weenie......

Just shot you an e-mail.

630 MJ  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:54:42pm

Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:

Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?

MEXICO CITY, Mexico (CNN) -- The United States may have been behind the killing of Neda Agha-Soltan, the 26-year-old Iranian woman whose fatal videotaped shooting Saturday made her a symbol of opposition to the June 12 presidential election results, the country's ambassador to Mexico said Thursday....

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

631 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:54:47pm

re: #622 realwest

Howard Jarvis and his Proposition 13 stopped that, um, stuff, in California!

632 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:55:01pm

re: #622 realwest

Ah well, finally something I think I can speak authoritatively about!
In most place, real estate evaluation for real property taxes bears no resemblance at all to the real VALUE of the property.
For example, in NYC, homes are assessed (the real estate tax evaluation) currently at about 25% or so of Market Value. That's so the politicians can say "We're not going to raise your real estate taxes" meaning the percentage of tax won't go up. But they'll increase the assessed valuation so you do pay more in real property taxes and the politicians haven't really lied: the amount of tax per assessed valuation stays the same, it's just that the assessed valuation goes up, as does your tax bill!

Add to the assessed value, every taxing district raises the amount the max every year.

My property market value has taken a 20% hit, my wife and I are on salary freezes, and my property taxes went up 13% this year on top of the increased assessment.

And fucking McDimwitt is paying taxes on 50% valuation.

Can you say I'm pissed and yeah, I'll call his assistant Liz, cause I pay her damn salary.

633 avanti  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:56:12pm

re: #617 Dark_Falcon

I may not be able to stay up late enough to see avanti move into positive territory, so here's the vid I found for him.

Tet, 1968. How the Newport News used her 3-inch guns to shell VC positions in Hue. Avanti's ship's contribution to one of Vietnam's bloodiest battles:


[Video]


Thanks, but it'll be tomorrow if I don't tick off too many Lizards, I need some sack time myself.

634 solomonpanting  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:56:37pm

re: #625 realwest

Thankew, thankew very much. But I never heard of her nor of her passing.

Admittedly, she did not possess the pop cultural fame of Carridine, but was influential in her own right.

635 freetoken  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:57:02pm

re: #548 realwest

Discovered after many attempts of my own... the lens can not accurately recreate the real... all we gather are shadows and reflections, the most fleeting whispers of that which exist.

/Plato - the original photographer!

636 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:57:11pm

re: #630 MJ

Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:

Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I went to the link and yup, they appear to "say" that. The part about this is what is being said by Iran's authorities is buried at the end of that first long sentence.

How damned ridiculous is that?

637 legalpad  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:57:18pm

re: #619 austin_blue

Hmmm. They definitely said the one after nine o' nine.

And one two three four five six seven, all good children go to heaven....

We'll see what they said

638 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:57:25pm

re: #630 MJ

IIIIIIIINNNNNNNNSAAAAAAAAAHD JAAAAAAAAAWB.

/since we all seem to be on a little Jones trip today

639 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:57:36pm
640 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:57:59pm

re: #633 avanti

Thanks, but it'll be tomorrow if I don't tick off too many Lizards, I need some sack time myself.

I'm out. I've got a 6:30am wakeup tomorrow.

641 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:58:27pm

re: #640 Dark_Falcon

I'm out. I've got a 6:30am wakeup tomorrow.

Later DF.

642 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:58:29pm

re: #633 avanti

Another upding, for serving on a grand ship with awesome firepower.

643 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:58:42pm

re: #640 Dark_Falcon

G'night.

644 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:59:17pm

re: #622 realwest

Ah well, finally something I think I can speak authoritatively about!
In most place, real estate evaluation for real property taxes bears no resemblance at all to the real VALUE of the property.
For example, in NYC, homes are assessed (the real estate tax evaluation) currently at about 25% or so of Market Value. That's so the politicians can say "We're not going to raise your real estate taxes" meaning the percentage of tax won't go up. But they'll increase the assessed valuation so you do pay more in real property taxes and the politicians haven't really lied: the amount of tax per assessed valuation stays the same, it's just that the assessed valuation goes up, as does your tax bill!

Another fun fact about property taxes is that in many jurisdictions, they set the mill levy rate after they decide how much money they need for the budget, in order to bring in the desired amount of revenue. Exactly the opposite of how the states do their budgets, where they decide how much to spend after seeing how much money they expect to collect in taxes.

Except for California, of course, where there's no connection between revenue and expenditures. Not sure who thought it was a good idea to allow a state to do deficit spending...

645 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:59:20pm

re: #629 reine.de.tout
Greatly appreciated.

646 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 9:59:21pm

re: #636 reine.de.tout

Riiiiiiiiiight....because even in the mullahs thugocracy, a sniper picking off an unarmed pedestrian is toatlly beyond the pale. Their weapon of choice against women are stones- and that's only after she's been buried up to her neck.

Fucking Caliphate News Network...

647 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:00:27pm

re: #644 lobo91

Another fun fact about property taxes is that in many jurisdictions, they set the mill levy rate after they decide how much money they need for the budget, in order to bring in the desired amount of revenue. Exactly the opposite of how the states do their budgets, where they decide how much to spend after seeing how much money they expect to collect in taxes.

Except for California, of course, where there's no connection between revenue and expenditures. Not sure who thought it was a good idea to allow a state to do deficit spending...

Life,
Liberty,
Property (unless you fall behind on your taxes)

648 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:01:56pm

re: #630 MJ

Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:

Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

You know, if the CIA was remotely near as effective and ubiquitous as moonbats think it is, there wouldn't be any problems left in the world of a foreign policy/national security nature.

649 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:02:29pm

re: #631 Floral Giraffe
Well hell, no wonder y'all are on the brink of bankruptcy! In most places, school costs are put to a vote and in most places school costs come from property taxes.
So if Howard Jarvis had just kept his damn mouth shut, y'all woulda had HUGE increases in Taxes cause the politicians coulda said "We won't raise property taxes if you vote for this". So Kalifornia wouldn't be going bankrupt cause the government seems TOTALLY against any CUTS in government spending and the Taxpayers seem opposed to any increase in their taxes!
Or something like that.
Sorry to hear about your dental problems, btw but I can't really talk about dental problems right now!

650 lobo91  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:02:45pm

re: #630 MJ

Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:

Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?


[Link: www.cnn.com...]

If the CIA was going to shoot someone in Iran, I would hope that it wouldn't be some random 26-year-old.

651 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:02:46pm

re: #630 MJ

Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:

Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Early a lizard linked a story out of Iran media it was a BBC reporter.

652 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:03:31pm

re: #650 lobo91

If the CIA was going to shoot someone in Iran, I would hope that it wouldn't be some random 26-year-old.

Neda is resonating, around he world and in Iran.

A dead girl has he Mullahs scared.

653 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:04:02pm

re: #630 MJ

Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:

Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Not the first time the msm has repeated iranian propaganda. I'm sure it wont be the last.

654 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:06:48pm

re: #630 MJ

Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:

Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I'd think that knowing that it was an Iranian government official saying this, just from the title alone would make readers assume that's what he'd be expected to say, and that not only was it the same stuff the Iranian government has "officially" put out but that only conspiracy kooks would swallow it.

/just sayin'.

//braces

655 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:07:02pm

re: #653 Sharmuta

Huh....I thought the MSM thought we were the good guys now that the evil BusHaliburtonCheneyBechtelCo was out of office and they hand-picked cadidate went in.....

656 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:07:32pm

re: #632 jcm
WHAT? Your property taxes AND your assessed valuation BOTH went up?!
I tells ya, Washington State politicians could learn something about taxation from NYC!
I am sorry to hear about that and the rule I ennunciated in my #622 isn't hard and fast. The year AFTER I got my last divorce and the former Mrs. Realwest owned our REALLY FINE condominum all by herself, Mayor Bloomberg raised the property taxes 19%, though he did leave assessed valuation where it was.
I am sorry - but, if I'm not prying, how come you AND your wife are on salary freezes?

657 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:09:29pm

I Just got around to watching the video Charles linked to. What a cool tune. She was a very interesting voice. Nice.

658 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:09:50pm

re: #628 Sambo

I'm still begging for "The Saga Begins".

659 lazardo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:10:32pm

Brb, college.

660 MrPaulRevere  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:10:55pm

re: #612 Gus 802

Zombie mentioned earlier Fox was picking it up, and he/she was getting a check. Good for Zombie, who is a stellar talent.

661 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:10:56pm

re: #649 realwest

{Realwest} If my dental issues were the worst thing this state had to face, it would be a good thing. The biggest problem is that most of the voters want everything, but they don't want to pay for it. THe math just doesn't work.

Hope you are doing well?

662 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:11:23pm

re: #636 reine.de.tout
Hey reine! "How damned ridiculous is that?" Not at all for CNN, y'all should know that!
The effin CIA shot her. I mean, really. How can even CNN write an article that looks as if it's a journalistic piece when it's just a piece of shi garbage!

663 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:12:06pm

re: #660 MrPaulRevere

Zombie mentioned earlier Fox was picking it up, and he/she was getting a check. Good for Zombie, who is a stellar talent.

Thanks, thought there might have been the chance that it was mentioned. Good that it was picked up.

664 itellu3times  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:12:20pm

re: #630 MJ

Just noticed the crap CNN is spreading on behalf of the Iranians:

Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?

There they go again, taking credit for what the Mossad really did.
/

665 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:13:41pm

re: #656 realwest

WHAT? Your property taxes AND your assessed valuation BOTH went up?!
I tells ya, Washington State politicians could learn something about taxation from NYC!
I am sorry to hear about that and the rule I ennunciated in my #622 isn't hard and fast. The year AFTER I got my last divorce and the former Mrs. Realwest owned our REALLY FINE condominum all by herself, Mayor Bloomberg raised the property taxes 19%, though he did leave assessed valuation where it was.
I am sorry - but, if I'm not prying, how come you AND your wife are on salary freezes?

Shh, don't tell 'em how NY does it.

My company just went through 10% layoffs, other in the industry had 30%. The CEO took a 20% pay cut, at my level no raise no promotion this year.

My wife is in the medical field, a physical terrorists (therapist she says). Therapy is getting cut.

We both have jobs, so can't complain much.

The tax increase stings, but McDimwitt getting 50% assessments?

666 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:13:48pm

re: #622 realwest

Ah well, finally something I think I can speak authoritatively about!
In most place, real estate evaluation for real property taxes bears no resemblance at all to the real VALUE of the property.
For example, in NYC, homes are assessed (the real estate tax evaluation) currently at about 25% or so of Market Value. That's so the politicians can say "We're not going to raise your real estate taxes" meaning the percentage of tax won't go up. But they'll increase the assessed valuation so you do pay more in real property taxes and the politicians haven't really lied: the amount of tax per assessed valuation stays the same, it's just that the assessed valuation goes up, as does your tax bill!

Just so, Real. Every year, for the last 10 or so years, I have disputed the valuation. Does not take long to collect the data to take to the hearing. I have won every time but it is clear that I am one of a very few who even bother to dispute the valuation and just go ahead and pay the taxes.

667 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:14:13pm

re: #660 MrPaulRevere

Zombie mentioned earlier Fox was picking it up, and he/she was getting a check. Good for Zombie, who is a stellar talent.

That means someone at Fox has to know his/her identity. They cant exactly write "Zombie" on the check unless it's a registered DBA.

/watchoutitsamobynetwork
/tinfoilhat

668 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:14:27pm

re: #664 itellu3times

There they go again, taking credit for what the Mossad really did.
/

If the Mossad did it, they'd have a picture of Dinnerjacket doing it......

////

669 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:14:36pm

Huh. Didn't Fox do the same thing with Mark Foley?

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

(Granted, the source is suspect, but that graph doesn't lie. That is most definitely a D nest to his name.)

670 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:14:59pm

re: #642 jcm
I'm confused. 3" guns aren't really big and since the video didn't show the guns shooting, I figured that was their main armament on the Newport News?
So sue me, I'm an ex-grunt and don't know much about Navy shit..........cept for that ocassionally lovely close in air support from Navy and Marine Corps pilots!

671 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:15:15pm

re: #669 austin_blue

Huh. Didn't Fox do the same thing with Mark Foley?

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

(Granted, the source is suspect, but that graph doesn't lie. That is most definitely a D nest to his name.)

Next. PIMF

672 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:16:03pm

Merry Happy


Namaste, Y'all
673 Sambo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:16:54pm

re: #665 jcm

I live in King Co. I think I heard that some performance audits were canceled because Ron Sim's administration was such a disaster. Good thing Obama scooped him up. And isn't King County something like $70M in the hole?

674 itellu3times  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:17:09pm

btw, what with this "it happens in threes" that I was hawking a few hours ago regarding ed, farrah, and MJ ... so what about David Carridine, what is he, chopped liver?

Most be global warming.

675 MJ  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:17:48pm

re: #654 lazardo

I'd think that knowing that it was an Iranian government official saying this, just from the title alone would make readers assume that's what he'd be expected to say, and that not only was it the same stuff the Iranian government has "officially" put out but that only conspiracy kooks would swallow it.

/just sayin'.

//braces

The article doesn't hint at the slightest amount of skepticism to that outrageous claim. CNN exhibited more skepticism whenever Bush gave a speech then they exhibit in that article.
No mention of the Basij or the fact that hundreds of protesters were killed.

676 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:18:28pm

re: #669 austin_blue

Huh. Didn't Fox do the same thing with Mark Foley?

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

(Granted, the source is suspect, but that graph doesn't lie. That is most definitely a D nest to his name.)

I think, but it might have been fauxtoshopped screencaps, that Fox also reported that the Space Shuttle Columbia broke up over Texas while going 18 times the speed of light.

677 MrPaulRevere  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:18:31pm

Speaking of Zombie, perhaps this is why California is in trouble... [Link: www.zombietime.com...]

678 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:19:00pm

re: #670 realwest

I'm confused. 3" guns aren't really big and since the video didn't show the guns shooting, I figured that was their main armament on the Newport News?
So sue me, I'm an ex-grunt and don't know much about Navy shit..........cept for that ocassionally lovely close in air support from Navy and Marine Corps pilots!

8" guns, fully cased ammo, not like the bags for the big 16" guns. Each gun could fire 20 rounds per minute. 9 guns, 180 rounds a minute total.

The Des Moines class heavy cruisers could put more weight on a target faster than a Iowa class battleship.

679 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:19:35pm

re: #644 lobo91

Another fun fact about property taxes is that in many jurisdictions, they set the mill levy rate after they decide how much money they need for the budget, in order to bring in the desired amount of revenue. Exactly the opposite of how the states do their budgets, where they decide how much to spend after seeing how much money they expect to collect in taxes. This is true in most -I'd guess 90% - of tax districts.
Except for California, of course, where there's no connection between revenue and expenditures. Not sure who thought it was a good idea to allow a state to do deficit spending...

Nancy Pelosi and Henry Waxman - who else?!?

680 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:19:52pm

2 teens charged in pit bull burning held on unrelated charges

Two twin teenage brothers charged as juveniles with killing a pit bull by pouring gasoline on the animal and setting it on fire are being held without bail on new adult charges after police said they raided their Southwest Baltimore rowhouse and found guns and marijuana inside.

Brutal story, but the last paragraph....

Charles Johnson, the twins' 75-year-old father, said on Thursday that his sons "did not burn anybody's dog. They weren't even there. Some dollar-hungry person wanted the money and put it on my boys."

681 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:20:04pm

re: #677 MrPaulRevere

Speaking of Zombie, perhaps this is why California is in trouble... [Link: www.zombietime.com...]

Looks like its time for the owner to renew the registration.

682 BatGuano  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:20:11pm

Goodnight, everyone.

683 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:21:13pm

re: #670 realwest

I'm confused. 3" guns aren't really big and since the video didn't show the guns shooting, I figured that was their main armament on the Newport News?
So sue me, I'm an ex-grunt and don't know much about Navy shit..........cept for that ocassionally lovely close in air support from Navy and Marine Corps pilots!

Last of the big old heavy WW-2 cruisers.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

9 X 8", 12 X 5", and 12 X 3' guns. That's a lot of juice.

684 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:21:19pm

re: #673 Sambo

I live in King Co. I think I heard that some performance audits were canceled because Ron Sim's administration was such a disaster. Good thing Obama scooped him up. And isn't King County something like $70M in the hole?

The legislature cut Brian Sonntag's audit budget this year. Despite the fact he's saving more money than the audits costs. He's a Democrat but one I've voted for for years.

Sim's left a disaster in his wake.

685 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:23:47pm

re: #676 ArchangelMichael

I think, but it might have been fauxtoshopped screencaps, that Fox also reported that the Space Shuttle Columbia broke up over Texas while going 18 times the speed of light.

I canna do it Captain Kirk! I haven't got the power!

686 Cheechako  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:24:28pm

Ya gotta' love them government rule makers. A couple of months ago the government issued a rule requiring all meat and vegetables to be labeled with a country of origin. I was in the supermarket this afternoon and looked at a 1 pound chub of hamburger. The display had the following label: "This product is from the United States, Canada, Mexico, Australia, or New Zealand." I guess all bases are covered.

687 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:25:40pm

re: #646 Fenway_Nation

Riiiiiiiiiight....because even in the mullahs thugocracy, a sniper picking off an unarmed pedestrian is toatlly beyond the pale. Their weapon of choice against women are stones- and that's only after she's been buried up to her neck.

Fucking Caliphate News Network...


I updinged you for the sentiment my friend, but CNN has always been and will always be, for the foreseeable future the Communist News Network.

688 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:25:45pm

re: #667 ArchangelMichael

That means someone at Fox has to know his/her identity. They cant exactly write "Zombie" on the check unless it's a registered DBA.

/watchoutitsamobynetwork
/tinfoilhat

Ah - there are several ways to Xfer $ and still be in compliance with the patriot act w/o the end user unknown.

689 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:26:16pm

re: #686 Cheechako

Ya gotta' love them government rule makers. A couple of months ago the government issued a rule requiring all meat and vegetables to be labeled with a country of origin. I was in the supermarket this afternoon and looked at a 1 pound chub of hamburger. The display had the following label: "This product is from the United States, Canada, Mexico, Australia, or New Zealand." I guess all bases are covered.

The cows are gathering......

690 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:26:48pm

re: #677 MrPaulRevere

Speaking of Zombie, perhaps this is why California is in trouble... [Link: www.zombietime.com...]

Maybe he or she can finally trade in the VW bug for a good old fashioned "Marxist" Trabant.

691 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:27:31pm

re: #690 Gus 802

Maybe he or she can finally trade in the VW bug for a good old fashioned "Marxist" Trabant.

I hope the exhaust is muffled.......

692 MrPaulRevere  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:28:27pm

RIP Michael Jackson. He was a stellar talent in his youth.

693 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:29:01pm

re: #691 jcm

I hope the exhaust is muffled.......

From the horse? ;)

Although, I do happen to find this "Trabant" interesting!

694 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:29:41pm

re: #693 Gus 802

From the horse? ;)

Although, I do happen to find this "Trabant" interesting!

Trabant?

Where?

695 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:29:59pm

re: #661 Floral Giraffe
Yeah, about as well as I can expect to be doing with this pounding pain in left lower jaw line.
How are you all holding on {Floral Giraffe}? And what seems to be wrong with the molar crowns - still don't feel right after a year? Are they too high do you think?

696 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:31:51pm

re: #694 jcm

Trabant?

Where?

It's in there! /

697 NY Nana  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:32:06pm

G'nite, all.

I am trying to go to sleep now, as daughter is taking the almost-3 year old toddler grandson to Ohio (flying out early in the AM) to visit friends, who moved from Brooklyn to Columbus about 8 months ago, as the husband got a job. As son in law is filming this weekend, they thought it was a good time for daughter and said bandit toddler to go.

I will not exhale till they get back on Monday night!

/And who says Jewish mothers always worry?

From my experience? All mothers worry, no matter how old their kids are...and my 'baby' is in his mid-30's, and the other 3 are in their 40's.

Sweet dreams! Damn. Anyone got a method of falling asleep until they get back? It is the small person's first flight.

698 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:32:27pm

re: #693 Gus 802

From the horse? ;)

Although, I do happen to find this "Trabant" interesting!

If she lived in the DDR in the 80s she wouldn't look like that. You cant if you shave your legs with a hammer and a sickle.

699 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:32:29pm

re: #696 Gus 802

It's in there! /

Okay, I'll look for it some more.....

;-P

700 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:32:44pm

re: #521 realwest

HEY NOAM! How are ya buddy! Didja get my e-mail about maybe changing your avatar to that photo?!

The resolution's too high on those. I don't know how to change that.


Sorry for the late reply. I went to bed.

701 ShanghaiEd  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:32:47pm

re: #669 austin_blue

Austin: Yes, FOX did label Mark Foley with a (D) when his shit hit the fan.

This afternoon, FOX apologized for mis-labeling Gov. Sanford...
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

702 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:34:23pm

re: #665 jcm
Damn jcm, I am sorry for you and your wife and of course you're right - Jim nowits ought to be exposed - think of the potential repercussions JUST among folk situated the way you two are?!

GODDAMNED POLITICIANS WORK FOR US, WE PAY THEIR SALARIES AND THEY THINK IT GIVES 'EM A LICENSE TO STEAL!

703 pink freud  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:34:40pm

Children.

Obey, Waters in noisy floor fight

Two Democrats got into a verbal altercation — and according to one a physical one — on the floor of the House on Thursday night over an appropriations earmark one was seeking.

After the House floor had largely cleared following a series of votes, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) and Appropriations Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.) split apart from a heated conversation and began yelling at one another.

“You’re out of line,” Waters shot while walking down toward the well.

“You’re out of line,” Obey shot back before turning and walking away.

But then Obey stopped, turned back toward Waters, and shouted: “I’m not going to approve that earmark!”

Obey turned away, but Waters went to go huddle with members of the Congressional Black Caucus. She could be over heard telling them: “He touched me first.”

704 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:35:19pm

re: #697 NY Nana

Count them jumping happily over a fence ... you know the rest - nite Nana, sleep well.

705 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:35:28pm

re: #698 ArchangelMichael

If she lived in the DDR in the 80s she wouldn't look like that. You cant if you shave your legs with a hammer and a sickle.

Indeed. To be honest these people that think "Marxism is the ticket" have forgotten about both history and the reality of communism. But I know I'm expecting them to think clearly which is not in the cards with the tin foil hat contingent.

706 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:36:04pm

re: #666 The Shadow Do
Yep. I updinged you for being one of the few folks who know how to bring a tax certiori proceeding (it's really SO EASY TO DO!). Good for you!

707 freetoken  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:37:21pm

re: #686 Cheechako

That must be the new "Pacific Blend" variety of hamburger.

/Remember, hamburger is just grounded bovine... a few bits from here, a few bits from there...

708 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:37:34pm

re: #702 realwest

Damn jcm, I am sorry for you and your wife and of course you're right - Jim nowits ought to be exposed - think of the potential repercussions JUST among folk situated the way you two are?!

GODDAMNED POLITICIANS WORK FOR US, WE PAY THEIR SALARIES AND THEY THINK IT GIVES 'EM A LICENSE TO STEAL!

Real,

We got it good, I've got no room to be complanin'.
Maybe this thing with Jimbo will wake a few more folks up.

709 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:37:40pm

re: #703 pink freud

We are so screwed with idiots like this representing us - and I'm from CA.

710 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:37:53pm

re: #703 pink freud

A huddle with the CBC? Are they for real? Do they actually have cliques like that in congress?

711 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:38:39pm

re: #667 ArchangelMichael
Not necessarily - he or she coulda (and I hope did) set up a "blind" corporation and that's who the check was made payable to. Coulda used any first name for conversation or writing purposes; as long as the payment goes to the Corp., it'll make it MUCH harder to track down who the real zombie is.

712 pink freud  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:38:43pm

re: #710 Gus 802

A huddle with the CBC? Are they for real? Do they actually have cliques like that in congress?

CBC is pure racism. It should be disbanded.

713 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:38:50pm

re: #669 austin_blue

Huh. Didn't Fox do the same thing with Mark Foley?

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

(Granted, the source is suspect, but that graph doesn't lie. That is most definitely a D nest to his name.)

It's also been done with Lincoln Chafee and Daniel Crane, too.

(yes, it's media matters, but poke around and they've got the videos and screenshots)

From 2006:

In recent weeks, media outlets have misidentified as Democrats several Republicans facing scandal, poor poll numbers

714 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:39:00pm

Welcome to the Peoples Democratic Union of America. Coming up next, senator gets into fight and huddles with other members of the Congressional Vegan Caucus.

//

715 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:39:35pm

re: #695 realwest

Lower right for me #30 & 31 IIRC. It's just not comfortable. I don't love the dentist. I'll let you know, if/When the pain goes away. Dianna's been a dear, helping with advice.

716 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:40:02pm

re: #712 pink freud

CBC is pure racism. It should be disbanded.

Indeed. But I'm sure the enjoy the intimidation factor it possesses.

717 MJ  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:40:49pm

Good riddance:

Khaled Hussein, Who Helped Hijackers, Dies at 73

ROME (AP) — Khaled Hussein, a Palestinian who helped plan the 1985 hijacking of the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro, during which an American passenger was killed, died early Monday in a jail in Benevento, near Naples. He was 73.

The cause was a heart attack, said his lawyer, Sandro Clementi....

..Four Palestinian militants hijacked the cruise ship off the Egyptian coast, killing the American, Leon Klinghoffer, an elderly Jewish man from New York, who was shot and pushed into the sea in his wheelchair.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

718 pink freud  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:40:59pm

Why sure they do. But that sort of thing is now acceptable, no?

719 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:42:15pm

re: #665 jcm HEY, seriously, listen up - y'all can bring what's called a Tax Certeriori proceeding - bring along your last three years assessments and taxes and demand that they lower your current taxes based upon a faulty assessment of your house. Really.
E-mail me if you want to and I can hold your hand through the entire process if you'd like. And something like 80% of taxpayers WIN.
Seriously amigo, e-mail me and tomorrow, when I'm awake but before 11:00 AM your time, I'll get back to you on this!

720 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:42:25pm

re: #713 iceweasel

It's also been done with Lincoln Chafee and Daniel Crane, too.

(yes, it's media matters, but poke around and they've got the videos and screenshots)

From 2006:

In recent weeks, media outlets have misidentified as Democrats several Republicans facing scandal, poor poll numbers

That can't be an accident. What do they expect that to do? I mean, this guy was being touted as a Presidential hopeful in '12 for the R's.

721 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:43:51pm

Night Honcos,

Ya'll have kept me up late!
;-P

"No political truth is certainly of greater intrinsic value, or is stamped with the authority of more enlightened patrons of liberty than that on which the objection is founded. The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
James Madison 1788 - Federalist No. 48

722 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:43:51pm

re: #720 austin_blue

That can't be an accident. What do they expect that to do? I mean, this guy was being touted as a Presidential hopeful in '12 for the R's.

I can buy that this sort of thing happens accidentally from time to time-- but it looks damned odd that Fox keeps doing it, and to Rep politicians when they're getting negative coverage.

723 jcm  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:44:10pm

re: #719 realwest

HEY, seriously, listen up - y'all can bring what's called a Tax Certeriori proceeding - bring along your last three years assessments and taxes and demand that they lower your current taxes based upon a faulty assessment of your house. Really.
E-mail me if you want to and I can hold your hand through the entire process if you'd like. And something like 80% of taxpayers WIN.
Seriously amigo, e-mail me and tomorrow, when I'm awake but before 11:00 AM your time, I'll get back to you on this!

Will do RW, thanks, goodnight.

724 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:44:38pm

re: #710 Gus 802

A huddle with the CBC? Are they for real? Do they actually have cliques like that in congress?

My mother (well connected) arranged a private tour for me of the halls of congress and the Capitol back in the 70s. - It was awe inspiring until I was taken into the "Cloak Room" - "This is where the "deals" are made" - my heart bottomed out - I have never trusted the government since.

725 MrPaulRevere  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:45:17pm

"War veterans salute during a ceremony to mark the 59th anniversary of the 1950-53 Korean War and denounce North Korea's nuclear programs at Changchung Gymnasium in Seoul, South Korea, Thursday, June 25, 2009". These ole' boys look like they could still get the job done... [Link: www.breitbart.com...]

726 Dianna  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:45:33pm

Good night, and thank you all for keeping me well entertained this evening.

727 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:47:08pm

Good night all. Sweet dreams.

728 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:47:32pm

re: #719 realwest

A call to your tax accessor may do something like that but this would be revolutionary. Good on ya RW.

729 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:47:34pm

re: #724 Bobibutu

My mother (well connected) arranged a private tour for me of the halls of congress and the Capitol back in the 70s. - It was awe inspiring until I was taken into the "Cloak Room" - "This is where the "deals" are made" - my heart bottomed out - I have never trusted the government since.

A seamy display no doubt. Politics is a sordid affair. The current congress is a circus.

730 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:48:42pm

re: #720 austin_blue

That can't be an accident. What do they expect that to do? I mean, this guy was being touted as a Presidential hopeful in '12 for the R's.

Also, check out this non-apology from an O'Reilly spokesperson in re: mislabelling Foley:

O'Reilly Factor executive producer David Tabacoff told Editor & Publisher on October 5 that the mislabeling was "an honest mistake." The magazine also reported that Tabacoff said the show, in the magazine's words, "didn't feel it was necessary to run a specific on-air correction" the next day because " 'everyone knows' Foley ... is a Republican."

Uh, if "everyone knows" that Foley is a Republican, doesn't that make it even stranger that O'Reilly's show and other Fox news shows repeatedly labelled him a Dem and no one there caught it? (it wasn't just the one time, it was several times over the course of the news cycle)

It's just odd.

731 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:49:29pm

re: #722 iceweasel

I can buy that this sort of thing happens accidentally from time to time-- but it looks damned odd that Fox keeps doing it, and to Rep politicians when they're getting negative coverage.

Never attribute to malice what complete and utter ignorance or stupidity can explain. (See my #676)

732 pink freud  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:49:52pm

This new congressman, Joseph Cao, from New Orleans, is worth a look. He's showing some backbone. This is the gentleman who unseated that other CBC member, William *Freezer* Jefferson, in a majority Dem district in New Orleans. He has shown the fortitude to tell HeWhoShallNotBeDenied, *NO*.

No to Cap and Trade from Cao.

733 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:50:08pm

re: #730 iceweasel

Wow...thank you for showing me the inherent right-wing, pro-Republican bias that's so pervasive in this nation's media outlet...

//

734 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:50:30pm

re: #700 Noam Sayin'
You went to bed and got up just to answer a question from ME?
Wow, love ya Noam *nooggies*!
Now go on back to bed, y'all need your sleep!

735 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:51:05pm

re: #732 pink freud

What is Freezer Jefferson up to these days?

Just Chilling?

736 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:51:44pm

re: #735 Fenway_Nation

What is Freezer Jefferson up to these days?

Just Chilling?

I think he's on ice.

737 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:51:57pm

re: #604 austin_blue

106 today in Austin. Projecting the same tomorrow. 105 yesterday. Brutal. Heat indexes well above 110.

I unloaded boxes out of trailer trucks in 102 today. First day of a new job. The job was fine, it's my physique that's the problem.

It was HOT. Damned near passed out at one point. The good news is that I survived most of the first day - I did have to stop early because my body was no longer obeying orders to work on pace. The bad news is that I have to go back in Saturday (hate working on the Sabbath, even though I'm not Jewish) to work seven trucks and the temperature will be 103.

That's what I get for working office/non-physical jobs for the last five years, I guess.

And that's the last comment from me tonight, once the thread has more than 400 replies or so, it takes ages for my typing to show up in the window, and it always has errors.

738 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:52:46pm

re: #709 Bobibutu
Hello my friend - uh, do y'all have to STAY in California?!

739 pink freud  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:52:58pm

re: #735 Fenway_Nation

What is Freezer Jefferson up to these days?

Just Chilling?

Fighting for his freedom. Ongoing now.

740 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:54:00pm

re: #731 ArchangelMichael

Never attribute to malice what complete and utter ignorance or stupidity can explain. (See my #676)

You mean like the space shuttle that "landed at Andrews AFB?"

I've seen them mix up Ds and Rs before. You basically hand this stuff off to the "graphics guy."

741 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:55:01pm

re: #713 iceweasel Whereas when a Dem transgresses in some way, the rest of the MSM never bother to give the person's party affiliation at all.

742 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:55:17pm

Lizards areTHE BEST!
So, sleep tight, help another lizard tomorrow.
Bestest regards,
Floral Giraffe

(And Reine is very helpful)

743 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:55:32pm

re: #740 Gus 802

You mean like the space shuttle that "landed at Andrews AFB?"

I've seen them mix up Ds and Rs before. You basically hand this stuff off to the "graphics guy."

Oh yes, CNN is no better. Fox is not alone in this crap.

744 pink freud  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:56:11pm

re: #742 Floral Giraffe

Goodnight FG! Sleep well.

/yes, Reine is c'est magnifique!

745 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:56:12pm

re: #729 Gus 802

Yea. The place was empty. My Cap. Police guide took me where where the tourists aren't shown.

It's been a circus forever - and now, more than troublesome.

746 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:56:25pm

re: #731 ArchangelMichael

re: #733 Fenway_Nation

Wow...thank you for showing me the inherent right-wing, pro-Republican bias that's so pervasive in this nation's media outlet...

//

Heh. No, I don't think that. I think ArchangelMichael is basically right. No need to look for weird conspiracies.

747 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:56:26pm

re: #743 ArchangelMichael

Oh yes, CNN is no better. Fox is not alone in this crap.

Yep. I caught that error on the space shuttle and that's a screen shot I took.

748 MrPaulRevere  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:56:26pm

Re: Mark Sanford, I watched his news conference yesterday live. He struck me as an oddball, an eccentric, just a little male intuition speaking. Good riddance.

749 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:57:39pm

re: #741 realwest

Whereas when a Dem transgresses in some way, the rest of the MSM never bother to give the person's party affiliation at all.

I haven't noticed that. Will be more than happy to read any links or stats you have supporting that, though.

750 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:58:08pm

re: #728 Bobibutu
Thanks but I didn't invent it - one of my law partners did!
Still and all, credit to one side, it is a must for everyone who feels they are paying way too high property taxes.

751 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:58:25pm

re: #745 Bobibutu

Yea. The place was empty. My Cap. Police guide took me where where the tourists aren't shown.

It's been a circus forever - and now, more than troublesome.

They're over payed. Get amazing retirement benefits and health care. They also get dozens of other perks and they're basically there for self-preservation. Writing to your congressman these days is essentially like an adult writing to Santa Claus.

752 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:58:53pm

re: #747 Gus 802

Yep. I caught that error on the space shuttle and that's a screen shot I took.

I actually found the 18 times the speed of light pic on my HD a few minutes ago. It wasn't Fox, it was CNN lol... oh well. I know Fox fucks up just as much.

753 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:59:12pm

re: #738 realwest

Hello my friend - uh, do y'all have to STAY in California?!

I am thinking of a place in Mexico just now.

[Link: www.rmac.com...]

754 pink freud  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:59:35pm

re: #749 iceweasel

I haven't noticed that. Will be more than happy to read any links or stats you have supporting that, though.

A primer.

Enjoy!

755 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 10:59:58pm

Here is where I saw it originally I think:

[Link: failblog.org...]

756 pink freud  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:00:11pm

bbiab.

757 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:00:25pm

re: #752 ArchangelMichael

I actually found the 18 times the speed of light pic on my HD a few minutes ago. It wasn't Fox, it was CNN lol... oh well. I know Fox fucks up just as much.

Is that a new speed record? What did they say was going 18x the speed of light -- the shuttle?

758 realwest  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:01:01pm

Well good night y'all - it's been real. I hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

Good night, all.

759 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:01:21pm

re: #755 ArchangelMichael

Here is where I saw it originally I think:

[Link: failblog.org...]

Nice! Damn that was a speed record. Can plasma even travel that fast?

760 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:01:53pm

re: #748 MrPaulRevere

Re: Mark Sanford, I watched his news conference yesterday live. He struck me as an oddball, an eccentric, just a little male intuition speaking. Good riddance.

The shit is still coming down on him, too. Politico had a story a while ago that he's going to have to reimburse SC for some of the cost of an earlier trip he took to Argentina.

Also, the ticket he'd bought to Argentina was for a TEN day trip, not seven. Looks like he was planning on staying longer than he wanted to admit, when he made his 'confession'.

ALSO, he received word from the newspaper breaking the story that they were going to publish the email exchange he'd had with the woman. That was 2 hours before the (already scheduled) press conference.

I think there's a good chance that he had planned all the way up to that point to stick with the lame cover story of 'driving on the coast in Argentina'.

761 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:02:37pm

re: #750 realwest

Thanks but I didn't invent it - one of my law partners did!
Still and all, credit to one side, it is a must for everyone who feels they are paying way too high property taxes.

Everyone is - lordy - we had Prop 13 way back when in CA - time for another revolt and bring these "public servants" to their knees - wishful thinking.

762 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:02:59pm

re: #747 Gus 802

I like this one from your pics there:

[Link: img524.imageshack.us...]

Lunar Nazis.... I HATE Lunar Nazis.

763 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:04:02pm

re: #754 pink freud

A primer.

Enjoy!

Thanks, but no thanks.

764 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:04:15pm

re: #762 ArchangelMichael

I like this one from your pics there:

[Link: img524.imageshack.us...]

Lunar Nazis.... I HATE Lunar Nazis.

Hey, my screenshot is there under related.

765 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:05:43pm

I'm having a hard time going to sleep. My dad told me tonight that the CAT scan showed Mom has a mass on one of her lungs. They're sticking a tube down tomorrow to do a biopsy or whatever. If it's cancer, they cannot operate. Also, she's now on a feeding tube because she aspirated food into her lungs.

766 MrPaulRevere  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:06:38pm

re: #760 iceweasel

Like Charles Krauthammer said, he basically committed political suicide. I'm not a choirboy and have committed my fair share of misbehavior. Having said that, his behavior was bizarre, to be charitable.

767 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:07:40pm

{Mandy}

768 Gus  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:07:50pm

re: #765 MandyManners

I'm having a hard time going to sleep. My dad told me tonight that the CAT scan showed Mom has a mass on one of her lungs. They're sticking a tube down tomorrow to do a biopsy or whatever. If it's cancer, they cannot operate. Also, she's now on a feeding tube because she aspirated food into her lungs.

I'm sorry to hear that Mandy.

769 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:07:56pm

re: #751 Gus 802

They're over payed. Get amazing retirement benefits and health care. They also get dozens of other perks and they're basically there for self-preservation. Writing to your congressman these days is essentially like an adult writing to Santa Claus.

I get responses from the dynamic duo from CA several weeks after (courteously) howling about bills coming up - right! Santa Claus.

My thots on that crap posted here would get me banned by the big dog.

770 freetoken  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:07:59pm

re: #765 MandyManners

Sorry to hear of the sad news. Wish you strength as you deal with all of this.

771 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:08:04pm

re: #765 MandyManners

Mandy, I'm so sorry to hear that. I will keep you and your family in my thoughts.

772 MrPaulRevere  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:08:41pm

You and your mom are in my prayers Mandy. God bless.

773 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:09:16pm

re: #765 MandyManners

I hope that it turns out to be nothing too serious, Mandy,,,

774 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:11:05pm

re: #765 MandyManners

I'm having a hard time going to sleep. My dad told me tonight that the CAT scan showed Mom has a mass on one of her lungs. They're sticking a tube down tomorrow to do a biopsy or whatever. If it's cancer, they cannot operate. Also, she's now on a feeding tube because she aspirated food into her lungs.

Damn! Mandy - be with her if you can - you know that - and know that all good thots and blessings are with you and yours.

Letting go is tough.

775 MJ  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:14:03pm

re: #765 MandyManners

Sorry to hear that Mandy. The best to you and your family.

776 Sambo  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:15:12pm

re: #765 MandyManners

I hope that you and the other members of your family will find some peace even during difficult times.

777 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:16:41pm

Thank you all for your kind words and prayers.

I regretted my post right after I hit the submit button. I shouldn't dump. My mother's death has been a reality for a while but, it's about upon us and I'm scared. The Kid feels the tension and sadness and is acting out greatly. He wants to go see her but he doesn't need to see her like this, with that mask on and all those tubes and wires.

Again, thank you for your kind words and prayers. I'm gonna' see if I can't get some sleep.

778 pink freud  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:17:03pm

re: #763 iceweasel

Thanks, but no thanks.

Your link tells me who is behind Media Research Center. However, the link I provided to you provides stats from polls by Pew, Gallup, University of Connecticut, and American Journalism Review. The information looks helpful.

779 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:17:42pm

re: #777 MandyManners

Hang in there.

780 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:18:23pm

re: #777 MandyManners

Rest well Dear.

781 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:19:01pm

re: #777 MandyManners

We love you

782 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:19:11pm

re: #777 MandyManners

Good luck and rest well.....

783 Silvergirl  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:20:00pm

re: #765 MandyManners

I wish you comfort in your heartache, Mandy.

784 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:21:38pm

re: #778 pink freud

Your link tells me who is behind Media Research Center. However, the link I provided to you provides stats from polls by Pew, Gallup, University of Connecticut, and American Journalism Review. The information looks helpful.

My link mentions various controversies involving the MRC.

Your link has a pdf document; I will download it and check it out (although it can't be this second, I'm doing a few other things).

Thanks for posting it.

785 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:23:59pm

re: #777 MandyManners

There is no reason to regret that. I'm very sorry to hear about this, and I hope for the best for you and your family.

786 Steffan  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:28:39am

re: #777 MandyManners

Thank you all for your kind words and prayers.

I regretted my post right after I hit the submit button. I shouldn't dump. My mother's death has been a reality for a while but, it's about upon us and I'm scared. The Kid feels the tension and sadness and is acting out greatly. He wants to go see her but he doesn't need to see her like this, with that mask on and all those tubes and wires.

Again, thank you for your kind words and prayers. I'm gonna' see if I can't get some sleep.

Mandy,

I think I know what you might be going through now... my mother, my aunt, and my oldest sister died of cancer.

It's never pleasant. If there is anything I can do for you and yours, please let me know.

787 beholden  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 9:50:03am

When I first listened to this song I thought it was strange and I didn't like it...now I've listned to it 10 times in a row and I think I'm in love with her.

Weird how we connect with music.

788 JEA62  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:22:42am

Wish I could write like that...

789 wrenchwench  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:51:52am

NPR had a nice interview with her yesterday. You can listen (or read it) here.


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