What’s on My Kindle?
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The latest books I’m reading on my Kindle, with short reviews.
384 comments
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 18, 2009 8:55:15pm |
That's weird. The link takes me to the main Kindle sales page on Amazon.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 8:57:06pm |
re: #1 Cato the Elder
That's weird. The link takes me to the main Kindle sales page on Amazon.
Welcome to the wonderful world of commercialism.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 18, 2009 8:57:49pm |
But I think Charles intended something else...
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little boomer Fri, Sep 18, 2009 8:58:37pm |
For a harrowing read, try The Johnstown Flood by David McCollough, written in the 60's. Wow.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 8:58:55pm |
Click that big picture of a book that's in the big square box...
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 8:59:23pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:04:28pm |
re: #8 Killgore Trout
RINO!
He's a RINO all right. He gores trolls with his horn of logic.
/just kidding
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:04:49pm |
The Blumenthal book lays out the connections between the Rushdoony cult, the Frances Schaeffer weirdos, Dobson, Falwell, etc. -- and their scary influence on the modern GOP.
He did a really good job. It's disturbing to see it all laid out like this.
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erraticsphinx Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:09:26pm |
When you make social conservatism the center of your party, it only invites sex scandals every election year. Some of the "family values" the GOP is currently supporting are not possible to adhere to for the majority of the populace.
It's ok to have a diverse party, just not one based primarily on this stuff.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:09:32pm |
Huh. Not seeing it. Just the standard Kindle sales page...
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Ojoe Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:12:52pm |
Currently reading A Distant Mirror: the Calamitous Fourteenth Century by Barbara Tuchmann.
But on paper, hard bound at least.
Now is better than then, by far.
I would not have minded the 12th century though, before the plague.
Good night again.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:13:19pm |
re: #12 Cato the Elder
Huh. Not seeing it. Just the standard Kindle sales page...
Are you seeing the book covers?
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MPH Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:14:14pm |
I'm still reading The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire -- can't put it down and it is monopolizing my Kindle.
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Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:14:33pm |
Charles,
Did you see the headline that Dan Brown's recent book on Kindle outsold the hardcover on Amazon?
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:15:13pm |
re: #4 Killgore Trout
Max Blumenthal, eh?
Why -- do you think someone might get upset that I'm recommending Blumenthal's book?
I can't imagine why.
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StudSupreme Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:16:05pm |
re: #11 erraticsphinx
When you make social conservatism the center of your party, it only invites sex scandals every election year. Some of the "family values" the GOP is currently supporting are not possible to adhere to for the majority of the populace.
It's ok to have a diverse party, just not one based primarily on this stuff.
Without meaning to intentionally cause offense:
Why can't the republicans mind their own FUCKING bizness w.r.t. a person's individual moral framework and simply concern themselves with running a small, efficient, highly effective government that maximizes individual freedom and individual responsibility? Ya know - the 'provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and ensure the liberties' etc etc stuff?
AM I ASKING TOO GODDAM MUCH?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:16:34pm |
re: #16 Dreader1962
Charles,
Did you see the headline that Dan Brown's recent book on Kindle outsold the hardcover on Amazon?
Well, I'll probably still buy the hardcover for my mother. It's her birthday and she enjoys his work.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:17:49pm |
re: #14 Charles
Are you seeing the book covers?
A whole bunch of 'em, about halfway down the page, but they're listed as "some of our most popular titles". Are you reading "Horse Soldiers"?
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:18:11pm |
re: #16 Dreader1962
Charles,
Did you see the headline that Dan Brown's recent book on Kindle outsold the hardcover on Amazon?
Yes, good for Dan Brown. But I find those books unreadable. Obviously, it's just me.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:18:49pm |
re: #22 Cato the Elder
A whole bunch of 'em, about halfway down the page, but they're listed as "some of our most popular titles". Are you reading "Horse Soldiers"?
Uh, no .. you should be seeing book covers in my post.
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Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:20:11pm |
I've been going through books that have been in my library for many years. My current book is the collected works of Shakespeare (annotated). The book is huge (around 2,500 pages), and I was looking for a Kindle equivalent. I could not find a version that was annotated. I'd like to have a portable option, if possible.
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:20:30pm |
re: #24 Charles
Yes, good for Dan Brown. But I find those books unreadable. Obviously, it's just me.
Is it just me, or do those things read like poorly written screenplays?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:20:39pm |
re: #24 Charles
Yes, good for Dan Brown. But I find those books unreadable. Obviously, it's just me.
Ditto, but my mom likes him.
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StudSupreme Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:20:50pm |
re: #27 austin_blue
Is it just me, or do those things read like poorly written screenplays?
It ain't just you.
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MPH Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:21:21pm |
re: #11 erraticsphinx
Have you read Kejda's "Beyond Conservatism: Freedom in a Godless Future" before?
[Link: www.kejda.net...]
Social Conservatives seeking to use government to legislate morality to the masses have been poisoning the well for too long by destroying the consistency of negative rights, thus opening the door to government co-optation by demagogues with various agendas and malignant vested interests from all sides of the political spectrum. Their religiously inspired diatribes against full American freedoms continue to alienate people in droves, particularly because most Americans today are rightfully oversensitive regarding matters of conscience, religion, social institutions, and private behavior.
Until it extirpates this reactionary faction, the Conservative movement’s defense of free markets is hopelessly doomed to intellectual impotence. Economic self-reliance through free proud enterprise on the one hand, but moral paternalism in matters confined to the bedroom or uterus on the other hand, are ideologically irreconcilable positions both of which sound hypocritical when preached by the same voice.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:21:24pm |
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Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:21:31pm |
re: #24 Charles
Yes, good for Dan Brown. But I find those books unreadable. Obviously, it's just me.
I agree - I couldn't stand 'The Da Vinci Code'. He sells because it is not demanding reading (chapters about 2-3 pages long, movie-script style, etc.)
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:21:41pm |
Oh, there it is. I had to disable a Firefox add-on.
No problem now.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:21:48pm |
re: #27 austin_blue
Is it just me, or do those things read like poorly written screenplays?
Yes. He sees himself as the Michael Crichton of conspiracy theories, but neither his books nor their movies are as good.
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:21:53pm |
re: #29 StudSupreme
It ain't just you.
Thank God! I was worried I wasn't hooked into the Zeitgeist...
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:21:59pm |
I don't have a Kindle; I use the Mobipocket reader on a Blackberry.
And my reading list on it is almost entirely science fiction.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:22:33pm |
re: #33 Cato the Elder
Oh, there it is. I had to disable a Firefox add-on.
No problem now.
See, that's why I don't like Firefox add-ons.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:22:52pm |
re: #26 Dreader1962
I've been going through books that have been in my library for many years. My current book is the collected works of Shakespeare (annotated). The book is huge (around 2,500 pages), and I was looking for a Kindle equivalent. I could not find a version that was annotated. I'd like to have a portable option, if possible.
Have you tried Barnes and Noble? They have their own ebook reader, but its performance isn't quite adequate on a Blackberry.
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researchok Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:23:00pm |
re: #24 Charles
Yes, good for Dan Brown. But I find those books unreadable. Obviously, it's just me.
See the Dan Brown plot generator.
It will explain your handicap.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:23:16pm |
re: #37 Charles
See, that's why I don't like Firefox add-ons.
They can be problematic.
Do you think that Amazon widget can be made to show my Kindle books on my Facebook page?
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:25:03pm |
re: #32 Dreader1962
I agree - I couldn't stand 'The Da Vinci Code'. He sells because it is not demanding reading (chapters about 2-3 pages long, movie-script style, etc.)
My wife wanted to see the Da Vinci Code; we got the movie, and I had a lot of it figured out early, and was telling her how it would go.
Oh well, if I ever complete a novel I'm working on, I hope it sells even half as well. But first, I have a couple of short stories to finish.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:25:30pm |
re: #24 Charles
Yes, good for Dan Brown. But I find those books unreadable. Obviously, it's just me.
I read The Code, because he went to my college and I had to see what all the buzz was about. The movie was fun, too, but that's it for me.
My favorite writer from my old school unfortunately took his own life last year: David Foster Wallace.
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Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:27:00pm |
re: #38 Kosh's Shadow
Have you tried Barnes and Noble? They have their own ebook reader, but its performance isn't quite adequate on a Blackberry.
I already have a Kindle. I have a Blackberry, but I wouldn't want to use it for reading (screen size, battery life, not electronic ink).
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:27:27pm |
re: #42 MikeySDCA
Can you tell us which one?
NoScript. It was supposedly set to accept all scripts on LGF, but sometimes when a new one crops up it gets balky.
I use it to protect myself when going to new sites.
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Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:28:28pm |
re: #4 Killgore Trout
Max Blumenthal, eh?
I like Max. I've found him biased, but factual, if that makes sense.
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Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:28:35pm |
re: #44 Kosh's Shadow
My wife wanted to see the Da Vinci Code; we got the movie, and I had a lot of it figured out early, and was telling her how it would go.
Oh well, if I ever complete a novel I'm working on, I hope it sells even half as well. But first, I have a couple of short stories to finish.
Then there is the gaping plot hole of emphasizing a DNA connection to Mary and saying that this means a DNA connection to Jesus Christ.
Was I the only one saying, "Wait a minute!"?
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:30:21pm |
NoScript is responsible for at least 80% of the problem reports I get at LGF. It's a pain in the rear. It ends up blocking Javascript that it shouldn't block, and then people complain to me, and then I waste time searching for bugs that aren't my fault.
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:31:39pm |
re: #48 Sharmuta
I like Max. I've found him biased, but factual, if that makes sense.
Heh. *Everyone* brings some bias. People bark about the NYT, but it seems to me that their content is pretty factual whereas their editorial is biased.
Just give me the facts, I'll figure out the politics.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:31:58pm |
Da Vinci Code. The book was gifted me by a loved one which meant I had a special obligation to try and read it.
I tried. What a stupid book. Told myself I would rather see the movie. Could not do that either.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:33:16pm |
re: #49 Dreader1962
Then there is the gaping plot hole of emphasizing a DNA connection to Mary and saying that this means a DNA connection to Jesus Christ.
Was I the only one saying, "Wait a minute!"?
Since I'm not Christian, I didn't have a problem with this; barring some miracles, a woman's son would have some of her DNA. (All his mitochondrial DNA comes from his mother.) And you can still accept Jesus is G-d's son even if his dna is similar to Mary's.
I'll skip the Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference.
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Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:33:29pm |
re: #51 austin_blue
Heh. *Everyone* brings some bias. People bark about the NYT, but it seems to me that their content is pretty factual whereas their editorial is biased.
Just give me the facts, I'll figure out the politics.
I've been noticing that more and more lately. Some people can't see the obvious slants in what they're reading when it's their baby, but boy- if it's the other team, all hell breaks loose.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:33:45pm |
re: #39 researchok
See the Dan Brown plot generator.
It will explain your handicap.
So, Dan Brown is taking on the Freemasons. I wonder if Glen Beck and Alex Jones have him booked for appearances yet.
/I wish I was kidding
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erraticsphinx Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:34:30pm |
re: #30 MPH
No, I'm going to, though.
I've just been looking at the website of the Values Voters Summit that took place today.
Your text to link...
Exhibitors include :
"Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays"
"Watchmen on the Wall"
"Abstinence Clearing House"
Speakers include some real interesting people too, not to mention prominent Republican politicians, including the congressional leaders in both the House and the Senate.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:34:52pm |
The problem with Max Blumenthal is the same problem with a lot of lefties -- they paint with insanely broad brushes sometimes, and they lump people (like me) in with the fanatics unjustly.
But I'm used to that. They've been doing it to me for years. The lefties put me in with the fanatics, and the fanatics put me in with the lefties.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:34:56pm |
re: #50 Charles
NoScript is responsible for at least 80% of the problem reports I get at LGF. It's a pain in the rear. It ends up blocking Javascript that it shouldn't block, and then people complain to me, and then I waste time searching for bugs that aren't my fault.
Well, next time I'll know. It's supposed to allow everything on LGF, but they just updated their code and it's maybe a bit wonky.
I really only have it for visiting places like Oily Tights's hangout...
Any idea about the Amazon widget and Facebook? It would be cool to share my reading with friends like that.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:35:02pm |
re: #50 Charles
NoScript is responsible for at least 80% of the problem reports I get at LGF. It's a pain in the rear. It ends up blocking Javascript that it shouldn't block, and then people complain to me, and then I waste time searching for bugs that aren't my fault.
I use NoScript, and it is one of the first things I check. Maybe there should be a standard note to try "temporarily allow all on page" before reporting a bug.
I use it because it defends against malicious sites, and also really cuts down on the crashes due to bad Flash ads.
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erraticsphinx Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:35:43pm |
I messed up the link above, but it still works. Ooops.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:36:20pm |
re: #58 Cato the Elder
Well, next time I'll know. It's supposed to allow everything on LGF, but they just updated their code and it's maybe a bit wonky.
I really only have it for visiting places like Oily Tights's hangout...
Any idea about the Amazon widget and Facebook? It would be cool to share my reading with friends like that.
I think Facebook blocks that kind of stuff, but I really don't know - all you can do is try it.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:38:11pm |
I think I've fixed that problem where the 'new comments' button would show the wrong number of waiting comments, by the way.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:38:50pm |
re: #56 erraticsphinx
No, I'm going to, though.
I've just been looking at the website of the Values Voters Summit that took place today.
Your text to link...Exhibitors include :
"Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays"
"Watchmen on the Wall"
"Abstinence Clearing House"Speakers include some real interesting people too, not to mention prominent Republican politicians, including the congressional leaders in both the House and the Senate.
Mitt Romney is speaking there, as is Bill O'Reilly. Its a mixed bag there. Except for Michelle Bachmann, who belongs in the nut bag.
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Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:39:33pm |
re: #53 Kosh's Shadow
Since I'm not Christian, I didn't have a problem with this; barring some miracles, a woman's son would have some of her DNA. (All his mitochondrial DNA comes from his mother.) And you can still accept Jesus is G-d's son even if his dna is similar to Mary's.
I'll skip the Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference.
I think you're missing the problem; the DNA was supposed to be derived from Mary Magdalene, not his mother.
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:40:40pm |
re: #54 Sharmuta
I've been noticing that more and more lately. Some people can't see the obvious slants in what they're reading when it's their baby, but boy- if it's the other team, all hell breaks loose.
Taking sides in the Culture Wars. The modern reality of American politics. It's the reason Charles is getting whipsawed by the Left (Muslim baiter!) and by the Right (traitor!).
You just can't win with the whacks on either fringe. It's why I am comfortable here. There are some people on the board who can't abide me (Hello, Gabby Johnson!), but by and large, the ad hominem attacks have significantly decreased as the Rads have flounced or been whacked. It's nicer here, now. You can discuss issues with some expectation of civil give and take.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:41:09pm |
re: #58 Cato the Elder
Well, next time I'll know. It's supposed to allow everything on LGF, but they just updated their code and it's maybe a bit wonky.
I really only have it for visiting places like Oily Tights's hangout...
Any idea about the Amazon widget and Facebook? It would be cool to share my reading with friends like that.
Often scripts come from other sites, so allowing all lgf won't necessarily fix scripts like this one, that really are run from Amazon's site. Same problem with many video links.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:41:50pm |
re: #64 Dreader1962
I think you're missing the problem; the DNA was supposed to be derived from Mary Magdalene, not his mother.
Thanks. I either missed that, or it was long enough ago that I forgot.
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Desert Dog Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:41:54pm |
I just finished www.amazon.com...]>The Death of Conservatism by Sam Tanenhaus/a>
A waste of $15 IMHO. He wrote this when Obama was flying high and the vultures were circling. Too bad for him the lifeless corpse is not so lifeless now. It was interesting to see how he attempted to link the various conservatives together, but otherwise he failed to convince me. I refuse to believe conservatism is dead, not even close.
If you want a good read, try this one:
www.amazon.com...]>The American Future: A History by Simon Schama
I love his History of Britain books as well. A very good writer.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:42:34pm |
re: #64 Dreader1962
I think you're missing the problem; the DNA was supposed to be derived from Mary Magdalene, not his mother.
I have no idea why Dan Brown's goofy novel has been taken seriously. It is a fucking novel!
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:43:18pm |
Not a good idea to test my patience right now. Nope.
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Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:44:11pm |
re: #70 The Shadow Do
I have no idea why Dan Brown's goofy novel has been taken seriously. It is a fucking novel!
He pretty much lifted the plot from existing sources. I know there has been some debate on who came up with the idea first, but 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail' predates Brown's book by quite a bit. (And does not have the gaping plot hole that I indicated.)
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jaunte Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:44:18pm |
re: #68 Desert Dog
Schama did a great job with "Citizens," on the French revolution.
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:44:38pm |
re: #69 StudSupreme
Dude, why don't you just stick your head in a deep fat fryer and avoid the pain?
;-)
Of course Dr. Paul isn't wrong about everything. I'm sure he loves kittehs.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:44:53pm |
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The Shadow Do Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:45:04pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:46:09pm |
re: #71 Charles
Sorry, Charles. Please delete my #76, with my apologies.
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:47:31pm |
Wow. I think I may get my first deletion.
Ouch. I didn't think that was stick worthy, unless it was a last straw kind of deal.
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Desert Dog Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:47:55pm |
re: #74 jaunte
Schama did a great job with "Citizens," on the French revolution.
I first learned about him when I watched the History of Britain on PBS a few years back. He writes outstanding books about art as well.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:48:15pm |
re: #73 Dreader1962
He pretty much lifted the plot from existing sources. I know there has been some debate on who came up with the idea first, but 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail' predates Brown's book by quite a bit. (And does not have the gaping plot hole that I indicated.)
However it is sliced or diced. It is just stupid and really pretty pointless. I don't get it. Probably an entertaining movie but not sure of that either. I sort of prefer not dumb as a rule when it comes to books, movies and such.
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Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:49:03pm |
I'm currently reading Stephen Jay Gould and the Politics of Evolution. What's nice is the author does away with the marxist bit right away. States Gould was a left of center moderate due to marixism's radicalism, and Gould was not a radical. I think a lot of the more science-y lizards would like this book.
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The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:49:33pm |
re: #18 Charles
Why -- do you think someone might get upset that I'm recommending Blumenthal's book?
I can't imagine why.
Blumenthal and Neiwert also did the story on Palin's husband's connections to the Alaskan Independence Party that (according to the Vanity Fair article this summer) made Palin have a meltdown and break with McCain staffers---, and IIRC also some stuff on the Dominionist connections her church has.
I've been dying to read this book of his. Cool.
Excerpt from it in the Daily Beast, for those interested:
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:49:47pm |
In looking at the LGF
AMAZON STORE
I see this...
Biology with MasteringBiology
Have you read it yet?
Recommend it?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:50:27pm |
re: #79 austin_blue
Wow. I think I may get my first deletion.
Ouch. I didn't think that was stick worthy, unless it was a last straw kind of deal.
I thought it was just a gag, too. But Charles keeps better track of people's comments than I do. He may rememeber the guy as someone who trolled before.
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erraticsphinx Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:50:53pm |
re: #84 Floral Giraffe
Hmm,
Sounds like my college textbook.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:51:04pm |
This not-yet-released book looks like a must-read:
The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution: Richard Dawkins
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:52:27pm |
re: #85 Dark_Falcon
I thought it was just a gag, too. But Charles keeps better track of people's comments than I do. He may rememeber the guy as someone who trolled before.
Checked previous comments -- apologist for the tea partiers.
I'm really trying to resist using the term "teabaggers," but it's getting difficult.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:53:36pm |
re: #87 Charles
This not-yet-released book looks like a must-read:
The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution: Richard Dawkins
If I bookmark this (add to my Amazon favorites) from your link are you credited? If not how does one work around this since I have about 5 books ahead on my personal hit parade.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:55:05pm |
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freetoken Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:55:08pm |
re: #87 Charles
Along the science vein, also coming in a few months (finally) is Sean Carroll's opus on time: From Eternity to Here: The Quest for the Ultimate Theory of Time
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:55:10pm |
re: #82 Sharmuta
I'm currently reading Stephen Jay Gould and the Politics of Evolution. What's nice is the author does away with the marxist bit right away. States Gould was a left of center moderate due to marixism's radicalism, and Gould was not a radical. I think a lot of the more science-y lizards would like this book.
Gould was one of the great science writers for the public. He made evolutionary theory not only accessible, but lyrical. He was never the in-your-face atheist that Dawkins has become (which is a shame, because Dawkins, as a science writer, is also killler bee - read The Ancestor's Tale for the most cogent explanation of modern evolutionary thinking available).
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jaunte Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:55:22pm |
Good grief. Amazon carries 287 listings for books by Harun Yahya.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:55:36pm |
re: #90 The Shadow Do
If I bookmark this (add to my Amazon favorites) from your link are you credited? If not how does one work around this since I have about 5 books ahead on my personal hit parade.
Yes, it has my associate ID in the link.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:55:47pm |
re: #89 Charles
Checked previous comments -- apologist for the tea partiers.
I'm really trying to resist using the term "teabaggers," but it's getting difficult.
Fair enough. Do continue to resist the temptation though. Call them "the clueless and the crazed" instead.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:56:12pm |
Charles, if I go to Amazon through LGF, do you get credit for anything I buy there?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:56:49pm |
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:56:51pm |
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erraticsphinx Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:57:02pm |
re: #91 Charles
Deliver her to a mental health clinic!
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:57:13pm |
re: #97 NJDhockeyfan
Yes, if you click one of the links from here.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:58:04pm |
re: #101 Charles
Even if I put it in my cart to buy later?
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:58:07pm |
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The Shadow Do Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:58:23pm |
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:58:26pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:58:48pm |
re: #101 Charles
Yes, if you click one of the links from here.
Good. I've bought a few things from there and wanted to make sure I did it right.
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freetoken Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:59:17pm |
re: #99 Charles
Wow, that flickr account has some revealing images.
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The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:59:28pm |
ACLU! Atheists, Commies, Liberals, and Undesirables!
Nice smile on the woman carrying this. You'd think her sense of irony or historical import might kick in when she's marching along with people with swastikas on their signs, or calling Obama Hitler, and suggest to her that using the term 'undesirables' to refer to her fellow citizens (who happen to be liberals) is a bit...loaded.
| 109 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:59:36pm |
The zoo has an African and the White House has a lyin' African!
Oh no. No racism there.
| 110 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:00:12pm |
re: #89 Charles
I'm really trying to resist using the term "teabaggers," but it's getting difficult.
Same here, but I think it's worth the effort.
| 112 |
Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:01:11pm |
re: #108 iceweasel
ACLU! Atheists, Commies, Liberals, and Undesirables!
Nice smile on the woman carrying this. You'd think her sense of irony or historical import might kick in when she's marching along with people with swastikas on their signs, or calling Obama Hitler, and suggest to her that using the term 'undesirables' to refer to her fellow citizens (who happen to be liberals) is a bit...loaded.
Remember I mentioned someone carrying one of those signs? The one I saw was an older man.
| 113 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:01:19pm |
re: #99 Charles
This one is especially disturbing.
Q: Wasn't it last year that Conservatives were criticizing the left for using kids in protests?
A: Ah, but now Obama is in office, so its OK.
/answer by Tea Partier
| 114 |
MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:01:26pm |
re: #89 Charles
Checked previous comments -- apologist for the tea partiers.
I'm really trying to resist using the term "teabaggers," but it's getting difficult.
I'm partial to calling the more strident of the bunch "raving lunatics" myself...
| 115 |
jaunte Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:01:27pm |
Nirthers using children:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
| 116 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:01:29pm |
| 117 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:01:32pm |
| 118 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:02:04pm |
re: #109 Charles
The zoo has an African and the White House has a lyin' African!
Oh no. No racism there.
JC on a popsicle stick. What is wrong with people?
| 119 |
MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:02:10pm |
| 120 |
austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:02:12pm |
re: #109 Charles
The zoo has an African and the White House has a lyin' African!
Oh no. No racism there.
David Brooks doesn't think so. He apparently hasn't seen the pictures:
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Right, it's all Populist Rage. Happens all the time. Nothing to see here...
| 121 |
The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:02:15pm |
re: #109 Charles
The zoo has an African and the White House has a lyin' African!
Oh no. No racism there.
It's a misspelling. And it's missing a comma. Obviously they meant to say, The White House has a lion, African!
It's a friendly exhortation to the local African American community to check out the National Zoo.
Why do we assume we know the intent of the sign holder? Why must we insist on playing the race card?
| 122 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:02:27pm |
re: #93 austin_blue
Gould was one of the great science writers for the public. He made evolutionary theory not only accessible, but lyrical. He was never the in-your-face atheist that Dawkins has become (which is a shame, because Dawkins, as a science writer, is also killler bee - read The Ancestor's Tale for the most cogent explanation of modern evolutionary thinking available).
You'd probably like this book. I haven't read any Dawkins yet, but I like Ken Miller's style. Only A Theory was very readable, and not quite as dry for my taste as Coyne's Why Evolution Is True.
| 123 |
erraticsphinx Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:02:35pm |
re: #117 Charles
That is by faaar the most disturbing one.
I don't know where I saw it, but the person holding looks like a 16 year old kid.
| 125 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:03:17pm |
re: #108 iceweasel
ACLU! Atheists, Commies, Liberals, and Undesirables!
Nice smile on the woman carrying this. You'd think her sense of irony or historical import might kick in when she's marching along with people with swastikas on their signs, or calling Obama Hitler, and suggest to her that using the term 'undesirables' to refer to her fellow citizens (who happen to be liberals) is a bit...loaded.
Is that Gen. Jack Ripper I see in that first pick?
| 126 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:03:34pm |
Where is the long form birth certificate?
Kids holding the signs.
| 128 |
MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:04:01pm |
The crazy right is following the crazy left's playbook:
Get 'em while they're young.
F**king shameless and disgusting, either way...
| 130 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:04:29pm |
| 132 |
Aye Pod Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:04:57pm |
re: #121 iceweasel
It's a misspelling. And it's missing a comma. Obviously they meant to say, The White House has a lion, African!
It's a friendly exhortation to the local African American community to check out the National Zoo.
Why do we assume we know the intent of the sign holder? Why must we insist on playing the race card?
They're just talking about his roots, and ... uh... that he should go visit them some time...is all.../
| 133 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:05:03pm |
re: #113 Dark_Falcon
This one is especially disturbing.
Q: Wasn't it last year that Conservatives were criticizing the left for using kids in protests?
A: Ah, but now Obama is in office, so its OK.
/answer by Tea Partier
re: #115 jaunte
Nirthers using children:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
GMTA.
| 134 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:05:07pm |
| 137 |
austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:06:28pm |
re: #108 iceweasel
ACLU! Atheists, Commies, Liberals, and Undesirables!
Nice smile on the woman carrying this. You'd think her sense of irony or historical import might kick in when she's marching along with people with swastikas on their signs, or calling Obama Hitler, and suggest to her that using the term 'undesirables' to refer to her fellow citizens (who happen to be liberals) is a bit...loaded.
General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Lord, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I... no, no. I don't, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Uh, Jack, Jack, listen, tell me, tell me, Jack. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?
General Jack D. Ripper: Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.
General Jack D. Ripper: Yes, a uh, a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I... I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.
General Jack D. Ripper: I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: No.
General Jack D. Ripper: But I... I do deny them my essence.
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erraticsphinx Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:06:47pm |
A lot people I know are happy that these protests will "energize the base" after the last two elections.
But what will happen when these freaks show up, whether as candidates or as volunteers or whatever? Are they going to become nice and normal again?
The non-condemnation of these people by the right wing will be what sinks us in the 2010 election, IMO.
| 140 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:08:10pm |
re: #138 Dark_Falcon
That's some wishful thinking that is horribly disconnected from reality.
| 141 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:08:12pm |
I think I'm going to have to do another long photo post again tomorrow. Clearly, I was just scratching the surface of the bad craziness.
| 143 |
austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:08:52pm |
re: #122 Sharmuta
You'd probably like this book. I haven't read any Dawkins yet, but I like Ken Miller's style. Only A Theory was very readable, and not quite as dry for my taste as Coyne's Why Evolution Is True.
Thanks!
| 144 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:08:54pm |
re: #137 austin_blue
Peter Sellers and Stanley Kubrick. A great combo of creator and actor that made for a very funny movie.
| 145 |
The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:09:39pm |
re: #137 austin_blue
God, i never get tired of that. LOVE IT!
| 147 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:10:18pm |
At Hot Air, where they're "cleaning up their comments:"
As a vet and as a man who went overseas i must say
I am so sick to death of these IDIOT leftist women
Constantly complaining about how america didnt give them
a free abortion all paid for by the government..You know ladies you should realize that in ALL of the
muslim lands the women there ARE KEPT BAREFOOT and PREGNANT
and usually are married to some 80 year old man at age 12In the united states of america
you arent forced to be pregnant each year
you arent forced into marriage at age 12
you arent forced into multiple marriages under pain of DEATH
you arent killed dif you try to vote
you arent killed if you try to speak
you arent killed if you try to DRIVE
you arent killed if you try to go to work
you arent killed if you try to walk without a relativeso Mrs obama before you go bad mouthing your own country
I suggest you go to a muslim land and try seeing what their
womens lives are like..and if you manage to get back here to the USA with your HEAD
still attached you might jsut appreciate this nation
just a little bit more!!!UNLESS you are goig to capitulate and betray all western women just like HILLARY CLINTON, PELOZI and others
who all talked big
But as soon as they went to a muslim countrythey all started to wear burkas and told the sheiks
how Friggin wonderful it was to see them
NOT killing their muslim wives in front of the damned news cameras this visit..you liberal women and your stinking hypocrisy makes me sick
you complain about this nation
but when its time to take a real stand in the muslims land
then all of a sudden all of you
go running down to BURKAS R US to find a fashionable one
to cover your lying hpocritical liberal FAT ASS.veteranoutrage.com
veteranoutrage on September 18, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Whoa.
| 148 |
jaunte Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:10:56pm |
More 9/12 'child workers'
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
| 149 |
The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:11:10pm |
re: #141 Charles
I think I'm going to have to do another long photo post again tomorrow. Clearly, I was just scratching the surface of the bad craziness.
DO IT!
Well, I would love it anyway. These flickr streams have to be seen to be believed.
| 150 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:12:01pm |
Heh, I think one would face more peril violating that dude's box of doughnuts.
| 151 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:12:18pm |
re: #147 Charles
Not the slightest touch of misogyny in that one. ///
| 152 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:13:02pm |
More non-hateful comments from Hot Air, where they're cleaning things up:
Let me be clear:
Michelle Obama is NOT a chimera of body parts assembled from a menagerie of mutant crypto-zoological specimens from Lucifer’s bestiary.
Nay, she is elfin in her daintiness and her magical charms waft in the wind like a delicious aroma from heaven; the pure ambrosia of Gods. We are truly blessed by her mere existence and our ears are charmed by the harmonizing music of her ever delightful utterance.
Geochelone on September 18, 2009 at 10:21 PM
| 153 |
freetoken Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:13:26pm |
re: #147 Charles
Apparently the guy has prophetic dreams, according to his website.
| 154 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:13:34pm |
| 155 |
Aye Pod Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:13:35pm |
re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth
That's some wishful thinking that is horribly disconnected from reality.
You're just another lefty that is scared of how awesomely she and vice president Joe the Plumber are going to clean up for the GOP in 2012. /
| 156 |
erraticsphinx Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:13:37pm |
re: #151 Sharmuta
I think he is fantasizing about those countries, actually.
| 157 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:13:48pm |
Hot Air, new home of the non-hateful commenter:
When Michelle Obama takes a crap
Do odors foul the air?
The ones that you and I expel,
That rot our underwear?
Or does it hint of frankincense
And other fragrance rare?
I wonder.When Michelle Obama takes a crap
Do angels on high praise
Their frosty, feathered protege
For adopting human ways?
Or do they gag and flap their wings
To clear away the haze?
I wonder.csdeven on September 19, 2009 at 12:22 AM
| 159 |
The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:14:55pm |
As a vet and as a man who went overseas i must say
I am so sick to death of these IDIOT leftist women
Constantly complaining about how america didnt give them
a free abortion all paid for by the government..
go running down to BURKAS R US to find a fashionable one
to cover your lying hpocritical liberal FAT ASS.
Uh, who exactly complains that we don't get free abortions?
I like how our keyboard warrior proves his love and concern for women by telling us to be happy we're not forcibly impregnated at 12... and then tells us we're fat.
I'm guessing no woman, liberal or otherwise, has had anything to do with our keyboard kommando in a long, long time...
| 160 |
The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:15:46pm |
re: #155 Jimmah
You're just another lefty that is scared of how awesomely she and vice president Joe the Plumber are going to clean up for the GOP in 2012. /
Sarah the Not-Governor and Not-Joe the Not-Plumber in 2012! Whee!
| 161 |
austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:16:21pm |
re: #144 Dark_Falcon
Peter Sellers and Stanley Kubrick. A great combo of creator and actor that made for a very funny movie.
George C. Scott (he was like, 33) and Slim Pickens. And James Earl Jones as the radar naviguesser ("Um, negative function...switching to primary over-ride...ummm...negative function...").
Sweet! Brutal satire.
| 163 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:17:13pm |
Actually- I have to laugh. It's clear the denizens of hot air are pretty pissed at the new rules. I hope AP and Ed have fun!
| 164 |
erraticsphinx Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:17:32pm |
Haha, the "veteran outrage " guy's website is so stupid that it's funny.
| 165 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:17:50pm |
re: #147 Charles
At Hot Air, where they're "cleaning up their comments:"
Whoa.
Is that all there is...
/
| 166 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:18:12pm |
re: #157 Charles
Hot Air, new home of the non-hateful commenter:
My God, is that vile. Some one with that sort of sick fixation needs a lengthy stay in a mental hospital.
| 167 |
austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:18:14pm |
re: #147 Charles
At Hot Air, where they're "cleaning up their comments:"
Whoa.
Sweet ham and mothers!
| 168 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:19:43pm |
| 169 |
Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:20:02pm |
More stuff from HA:
Wait a danged minute. She was speaking to the “National Council of N*gro Women”??? Isn’t that racist by definition? And is it now OK to call them N*gros again?
MikeA on September 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM
* = o
For clarity.
| 171 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:20:21pm |
| 172 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:21:13pm |
re: #170 Sharmuta
The air heads are revolting. Have fun moderating that.
They're really pissed that they have to stop posting racist comments.
| 173 |
Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:21:24pm |
And it keeps coming in at HA:
M Hobama did such a great job in Chicago turning away those poor patients that her salary tripled once B Hobama became Senator. Having M Hobama whore out to scrounge around for support for her Marxist hubby is so - well typically of whores & pimps from Chicago.
I wonder if O’Keefe went to Chicago?
izoneguy on September 18, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Quote above by others at HA.
| 174 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:21:45pm |
re: #155 Jimmah
I was totally supportive of her during the campaign ( except for the "Nook-Yah-Ler" thing, that just bugs the crap out of me), but she has sense displayed enough crazy to turn me off.
If she couldn't win moderates last year before the crazy, what makes people think she can win any a couple of years from now after the crazy?
| 175 |
ArchangelMichael Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:22:20pm |
re: #170 Sharmuta
The air heads are revolting. Have fun moderating that.
I have a feeling like anything short of the the N-word is not going to be moderated. It's the only thing that cant be spun into "I didn't mean that in a racist way" if you twist yourself in enough knots.
| 176 |
jaunte Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:22:39pm |
The suggestively violent: "I got your trigger right here" poster, cmlete with childlike drawings of handgun and rifle.
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
| 177 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:22:41pm |
re: #172 Charles
It's a little amusing -- from the perspective Ed & AP have their hands full. It's a mess of their own making, so I don't feel bad for them in the slightest.
| 179 |
ArchangelMichael Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:23:21pm |
re: #175 ArchangelMichael
But... I am sort of talking out of my ass since I haven't read Hot Air since shortly after Alex Jones and Michelle Malkin met in Thunderdome.
| 180 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:23:57pm |
re: #173 Gus 802
The misogyny is just disgusting. I wonder if the c-word will show up soon.
| 181 |
Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:24:29pm |
re: #180 Sharmuta
The misogyny is just disgusting. I wonder if the c-word will show up soon.
Haven't seen that yet.
I have to be real careful when I "clean" those up.
| 182 |
MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:24:39pm |
re: #177 Sharmuta
It's a little amusing -- from the perspective Ed & AP have their hands full. It's a mess of their own making, so I don't feel bad for them in the slightest.
Yep, it's their damn fault for letting the inmates run the asylum and turn HA into Stormfront Lite, IMO...
| 183 |
erraticsphinx Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:24:49pm |
What Hot Air is going through right now may be what the GOP has to go through in a few years if the kooks aren't kicked out.
This may sound extreme, but this is getting serious.
| 184 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:24:57pm |
Maybe it's time for a regular feature: "Hot Air's New, Improved, Non-Hateful Comments!"
| 185 |
The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:25:09pm |
re: #173 Gus 802
And it keeps coming in at HA:
Quote above by others at HA.
Having M Hobama whore out to scrounge around for support for her Marxist hubby is so - well typically of whores & pimps from Chicago.
Disgusting.
| 186 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:25:30pm |
re: #184 Charles
Maybe it's time for a regular feature: "Hot Air's New, Improved, Non-Hateful Comments!"
That would be awesome.
| 187 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:25:41pm |
I forgot about this until just now, but calling the POTUS Ogabe/Mugabe over there has been a regular practice for quite a while now.
| 188 |
Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:26:28pm |
re: #180 Sharmuta
The misogyny is just disgusting. I wonder if the c-word will show up soon.
Use this link but add the word in front of what's already typed in. Make sure there's a space between your entry and the first letter of "site."
[Link: www.google.com...]
| 189 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:27:04pm |
The Protocols of the Daily Kos helped deal with the anti-Semitism we used to see their far too frequently over there. Maybe some right wing blogs need their own dose of it if this problem is going to improve.
| 190 |
jaunte Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:27:23pm |
Photographic Obama "Joker" poster: (note comment)
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
| 191 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:27:33pm |
re: #188 Gus 802
Use this link but add the word in front of what's already typed in. Make sure there's a space between your entry and the first letter of "site."
[Link: www.google.com...]
What do you know! It's all over the site.
| 192 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:27:49pm |
re: #188 Gus 802
Use this link but add the word in front of what's already typed in. Make sure there's a space between your entry and the first letter of "site."
[Link: www.google.com...]
28
| 193 |
freetoken Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:27:53pm |
The quoted "Geochelone", whose comment is posted above, is apparently a banned LGF'er:
I was banned from LGF a while back. I made what I thought was a funny and very tame comment. I accidentally left off the /sarc tag and was summarily banned. I could not believe it. There is something wrong with CJ. He is obsessed and will not admit it. He claimed at the time that his site gives equal time to all topics of the day when in reality his site has become Evolution Debate 101 Central. Except there is nor debate. Its his site so he can do whatever he wants. But to pretend that he does not focus on Darwin on frequent basis is kind of silly.
Geochelone on May 20, 2009 at 11:15 PM
| 194 |
Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:28:02pm |
re: #191 Charles
What do you know! It's all over the site.
It is. I didn't want to form the exact search if you know what I mean.
| 195 |
MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:30:00pm |
re: #193 freetoken
The quoted "Geochelone", whose comment is posted above, is apparently a banned LGF'er:
The old "I didn't do anything wrong, but, all of a sudden, Charles just ups and bans me!" defense...I ain't buying what they're selling.
| 196 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:30:24pm |
re: #188 Gus 802
Holy shit. I thought they were supposed to have some kind of language filter software that removed the dirty words.
| 197 |
austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:31:13pm |
re: #180 Sharmuta
The misogyny is just disgusting. I wonder if the c-word will show up soon.
Always implied, though, isn't it? Just below the surface...
You'll notice how BDS also always included Laura, too. Remember how those Libs always went after her?
Nothing to see here. Just your standard political discourse.
| 198 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:31:18pm |
I just feel ill. How can any woman feel comfortable posting at hot air?
| 199 |
Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:31:33pm |
re: #196 Slumbering Behemoth
Holy shit. I thought they were supposed to have some kind of language filter software that removed the dirty words.
Guess not. They do it manually.
| 201 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:32:09pm |
They're really pissed that they can't be racists any more:
Upstater, you’re good at this new thought-crime thing. I’m very impressed. I never would have caught the goldfish slur - twisted racist that I am.
Okay folks, I’m out of here. Good luck skirting the new Soviet rules (which only apply to certain people).
progressoverpeace on September 19, 2009 at 12:44 AM
| 202 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:32:12pm |
re: #195 talon_262
The old "I didn't do anything wrong, but, all of a sudden, Charles just ups and bans me!" defense...I ain't buying what they're selling.
Nor I. But the lack of sleep from last night has caught up to me and I must go to bed. Goodnight, all.
| 203 |
The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:32:44pm |
re: #198 Sharmuta
I just feel ill. How can any woman feel comfortable posting at hot air?
Because women are just as capable of viciously hating other women, and employing sexual slurs against them, as women-hating men are.
Sometimes more so.
| 204 |
Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:32:52pm |
re: #202 Dark_Falcon
Nor I. But the lack of sleep from last night has caught up to me and I must go to bed. Goodnight, all.
Later DF.
| 205 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:33:00pm |
And they're trying to hide their slurs with misspellings:
ssuming you aren’t using a h0m0sexual slur, I will bid you goodnight.
Upstater85 on September 19, 2009 at 12:45 AM
| 206 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:33:03pm |
re: #193 freetoken
These types remind me of the jilted ex-lover types that go on and on ad nauseum about their ex, and claim that their ex is the one obsessed. Sad.
| 208 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:33:33pm |
I just read through the 'Minigun Meltdown' link posted a while ago.
I always love it when an idiot lying about service gets called out. As every vet knows, the military has a huge number of people both in and around it that just have to lie about what they've done. It's sad, really - it means that they are ashamed of their worthless, empty lives.
He just kept coming back, even when the crowd was laughing at everything he said. Priceless!
Thanks, Charles.
| 209 |
Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:33:57pm |
re: #205 Charles
And they're trying to hide their slurs with misspellings:
Probably start seeing more of that.
| 210 |
austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:34:17pm |
re: #202 Dark_Falcon
Nor I. But the lack of sleep from last night has caught up to me and I must go to bed. Goodnight, all.
Night DF, sweet drams, my friend.
| 211 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:34:30pm |
They're using the @ symbol to cover up the hateful remarks (and talking openly about it like morons, of course):
holy cow, i thought you guys were goofing using the @ sign there — i tried the actual word and i don’t even SEE the “comment in moderation” thing anymore — i guess the proprietors are not foolin’ around anymore!!!
Buckaroo on September 19, 2009 at 12:58 AM
| 212 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:35:06pm |
Whine!
Chuckles sends over his sock puppet and we all get punished….
CJ’s “big punishment”?
He was moved from the right margin to the left.
sven10077 on September 19, 2009 at 12:59 AM
| 213 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:35:39pm |
No racism left at Hot Air! All gone now!
ok, re-typed so as not to offend anyone’s delicate sensibilities [!!]
point of order — cryptozoologists attest that when a mommy s@squatch and a daddy s@squatch love each other very much, they make a little s@squatch …
/jus’ sayin’ …Buckaroo on September 19, 2009 at 1:00 AM
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Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:35:41pm |
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:37:32pm |
I'm now controlling Hot Air! Bwa hahaha!
Chalres Johnson and AP are the guys that helped take down Dan Rather after he tried to single handedly elect John Kerry. LGF was once the gold standard of mostly non-partisan truth dealing on the ‘net. It devolved into its current state because Charles Johnson forgot that Radical islam killes 3000 Americans one day.
Charles’ lackey Kilgore Trout decided nothing would liven up HotAir like dropping twenty or so N-bombs….
Ed as is his wont decided to go full blown five alarm Fargo nice and “reiterate the rules” so the end result is that a former friend of HA’s lackey came in shat on the rug and Ed’s puppies are getting their noses rubbed in it.
Thus Charles Johnson now has some measure of editorial oversight into HA thanks to KT’s passive aggresive soiling of our board.
sven10077 on September 19, 2009 at 1:25 AM
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Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:37:39pm |
re: #212 Charles
*Sniff*
You mean we can't say '***' or '***' or '***'?
How are we going to have fun anymore? I mean, without those words, I can't communicate my political philosophy anymore!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:37:41pm |
:stomping feet: "Why doesn't daddy Charles love me!?! I'm gonna go key his bike"!
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:38:05pm |
re: #212 Charles
Whine!
Chuckles sends over his sock puppet and we all get punished….CJ’s “big punishment”?
He was moved from the right margin to the left.
sven10077 on September 19, 2009 at 12:59 AM
Sven, "steroids make you deaf?"
/Damon Killian, The Running Man
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The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:38:26pm |
re: #197 austin_blue
Always implied, though, isn't it? Just below the surface...
You'll notice how BDS also always included Laura, too. Remember how those Libs always went after her?
Nothing to see here. Just your standard political discourse.
Libs are JUST as capable of being misogynists as people on the right. Even prog/lefty blogs that I like, ten comments in on a post about Malkin or Coulter or Palin or any woman on teh right you'll find an inappropriate (sometimes very ugly) comment.
But I don't remember Laura Bush ever coming in for anything like this. Ever. Even people who didn't like her-- the worst I remember are nasty gibes that she killed her HS bf. And that's horrible, but that was it.
The worst they said about her after that IIRC was that she was dumb. And not everyone said that. She generally got a lot of sympathy and people liked her literacy work.
But it's also possible I wasn't exposed to the super crazy people. (That is likely.)
I really disliked Bush as POTUS, but I liked Laura and most people I know did too.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:38:58pm |
It's outstanding. They're spewing hatred at me in every single thread. And every thread is full of whining about the new "hate-free!" policy.
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Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:40:15pm |
re: #220 iceweasel
Misogyny knows no political bounds, social bounds, cultural bounds, race bounds, gender bounds- but I know you know this already. It's why I keep trying to get men to read Dr. Chesler's book too.
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:40:24pm |
re: #221 Charles
It's outstanding. They're spewing hatred at me in every single thread. And every thread is full of whining about the new "hate-free!" policy.
Excellent!
/Monty Burns
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:40:38pm |
We still have someone carrying comments from the private threads over to the stalker blog, by the way. (As if I give a crap.)
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Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:41:09pm |
re: #221 Charles
It's outstanding. They're spewing hatred at me in every single thread. And every thread is full of whining about the new "hate-free!" policy.
You're so mean to make them be nice.
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Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:41:51pm |
re: #226 Charles
We still have someone carrying comments from the private threads over to the stalker blog, by the way. (As if I give a crap.)
Who are the current users in that thread?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:42:08pm |
re: #216 Charles
One day, you will rule the entire interwebs. Bwahahaha!
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The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:42:47pm |
BTW, a comment upthread reminded me that teh other charming nickname I've seen for Michelle Obama, apart from wookie, is Sasquatch. Don't know where it originated, but it's spread and is all over the worst swamps of the right.
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:42:50pm |
re: #227 Sharmuta
You're so mean to make them be nice.
Making the putzes over on HA be "nice" is like dousing a pile of dog crap with Febreze...sure, it smells nice and fresh, but it's still a pile of dog crap.
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The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:43:49pm |
re: #223 Sharmuta
Misogyny knows no political bounds, social bounds, cultural bounds, race bounds, gender bounds- but I know you know this already. It's why I keep trying to get men to read Dr. Chesler's book too.
The oppression of women is the oldest form of oppression and the basis for all other forms of oppression.
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:43:54pm |
re: #230 Sharmuta
Killgore is now so famous, he's infamous.
/Three Amigos
C'mon, Sharm...you're really El Guapo, right?
;-P
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:44:45pm |
re: #228 Gus 802
Who are the current users in that thread?
Just got one. 'Alpine lizard.' Also shows up at a stalker chat room. Had a second sock puppet registered too. Was hanging out in the private thread.
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:45:26pm |
re: #234 iceweasel
The oppression of women is the oldest form of oppression and the basis for all other forms of oppression.
It's all about flexing power over others that can't or won't necessarily fight back...disgusting, that what it is.
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Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:45:26pm |
re: #237 Charles
Just got one. 'Alpine lizard.' Also shows up at a stalker chat room. Had a second sock puppet registered too. Was hanging out in the private thread.
Great. Swat them like flies!
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Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:45:46pm |
re: #234 iceweasel
The oppression of women is the oldest form of oppression and the basis for all other forms of oppression.
You would have died the other night if you'd been with me. I heard some leftist men talking about Imperialism, so I told them it was a tool of The Man to further to global patriarchy. :p
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Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:46:13pm |
re: #239 Gus 802
Great. Swat them like flies!
No offense to real flies however. They're more productive.
//
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Aye Pod Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:46:43pm |
re: #206 Slumbering Behemoth
These types remind me of the jilted ex-lover types that go on and on ad nauseum about their ex, and claim that their ex is the one obsessed. Sad.
This has been recognised as a general feature the denizens of wingnuttia these days:
[Link: blogs.myspace.com...]
That's what you are, the bitter divorced guy whose country has left him -- obsessing over it, haranguing it, blubbering one minute about how much you love it and vowing the next that if you cannot have it, nobody will.But it's been almost 100 days, and your country is not coming back to you. She's found somebody new. And it's a black guy.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:46:48pm |
People currently reading this thread:
ArchangelMichael
austin_blue
Bloodnok
Charles
Cheechako
cliffster
CyanSnowHawk
Dark_Falcon
Desert Dog
Dreader1962
erraticsphinx
Fenway_Nation
Floral Giraffe
freetoken
Gus 802
iceweasel
JanglerNPL
jaunte
Jimmah
Jurassic Slappass
Killgore Trout
Killian Bundy
KingKenrod
Kosh's Shadow
MPH
Mr Pancakes
NJDhockeyfan
Noam Sayin'
outsidephilly
portwine
RealismRox
Reginald Perrin
reine.de.tout
researchok
revobob
Sharmuta
Slumbering Behemoth
sngnsgt
talon_262
The Shadow Do
trendsurfer
Vinnie
Walter L. Newton
wee fury
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:46:57pm |
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:47:18pm |
re: #220 iceweasel
Libs are JUST as capable of being misogynists as people on the right. Even prog/lefty blogs that I like, ten comments in on a post about Malkin or Coulter or Palin or any woman on teh right you'll find an inappropriate (sometimes very ugly) comment.
But I don't remember Laura Bush ever coming in for anything like this. Ever. Even people who didn't like her-- the worst I remember are nasty gibes that she killed her HS bf. And that's horrible, but that was it.
The worst they said about her after that IIRC was that she was dumb. And not everyone said that. She generally got a lot of sympathy and people liked her literacy work.But it's also possible I wasn't exposed to the super crazy people. (That is likely.)
I really disliked Bush as POTUS, but I liked Laura and most people I know did too.
I've met them both. She's charming. A bright, thoughtful, Midland native. That bit about her HS boyfriend was true, and tragic. A horrible accident.
GW, who I visited with twice, always struck me as the ultimate frat boy (I should know, I were one, although not ultimate). A good friend of mine (and a colleague of She Who Must Be Obeyed) taught their two girls when they were in middle and high school and he was the Gov, so we bumped into to them occasionally.
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wee fury Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:48:55pm |
When the FNDT starts -- hope that you enjoy this
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:49:42pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:50:34pm |
Forget Manbearpig, Al Gore has a brand new nemesis, and this one means business.
Lizardettes and Lizards, I present the Bearsharktopus!
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:51:23pm |
re: #243 Charles
People currently reading this thread:
ArchangelMichael
austin_blue
Bloodnok
Charles
Cheechako
cliffster
CyanSnowHawk
Dark_Falcon
Desert Dog
Dreader1962
erraticsphinx
Fenway_Nation
Floral Giraffe
freetoken
Gus 802
iceweasel
JanglerNPL
jaunte
Jimmah
Jurassic Slappass
Killgore Trout
Killian Bundy
KingKenrod
Kosh's Shadow
MPH
Mr Pancakes
NJDhockeyfan
Noam Sayin'
outsidephilly
portwine
RealismRox
Reginald Perrin
reine.de.tout
researchok
revobob
Sharmuta
Slumbering Behemoth
sngnsgt
talon_262
The Shadow Do
trendsurfer
Vinnie
Walter L. Newton
wee fury
Jurassic Slappass?
Nice handle!
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jaunte Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:51:30pm |
re: #254 Slumbering Behemoth
Wow, has Kirk Cameron seen that?
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:52:30pm |
re: #243 Charles
I looked at 3 names that were new to me, and they look OK.
You can search LGF ( Top right corner)
with username:FILL IN THE NAME
And see their comments.
Charles has the best programming!
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:52:34pm |
re: #254 Slumbering Behemoth
Forget Manbearpig, Al Gore has a brand new nemesis, and this one means business.
Lizardettes and Lizards, I present the Bearsharktopus!
Ooh! Chimera!
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:53:11pm |
re: #254 Slumbering Behemoth
That is funny!
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:53:20pm |
re: #253 jaunte
What was the performance tonight?
This is crossover weekend, between plays, so we had a folk concert tonight, Cosy Sheridan from Moab Utah.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:53:55pm |
re: #258 jaunte
Every time Kirk lies for Jesus about evolution, another Bearsharktopus gets its tentacles.
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:53:56pm |
re: #260 Floral Giraffe
I looked at 3 names that were new to me, and they look OK.
You can search LGF ( Top right corner)
with username:FILL IN THE NAME
And see their comments.Charles has the best programming!
He's done his best, slaving over a hot keyboard and all...
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:54:25pm |
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:55:02pm |
re: #264 Jurassic Slappass
Hello posterior slapping of the Jurassic persuasion.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:55:06pm |
re: #264 Jurassic Slappass
It's a great nic! What is the origin, if I may ask?
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The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:55:42pm |
re: #263 Walter L. Newton
This is crossover weekend, between plays, so we had a folk concert tonight, Cosy Sheridan from Moab Utah.
Walter! How are you?! How's my favourite opponent?
(feeling affectionate-- look out!)
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Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:55:42pm |
re: #267 austin_blue
Welcome to the monkey house!
Don't throw poo!
;-)
Unlike we did at first. To each other.
;)
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jaunte Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:56:04pm |
re: #263 Walter L. Newton
This is crossover weekend, between plays, so we had a folk concert tonight, Cosy Sheridan from Moab Utah.
Looks like an entertaining performer. Song based on myth:
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:56:05pm |
This weekend I'm going to code up that "users in a thread" module into a clickable button in each thread, so people can know who's reading their comments. Especially in the private threads.
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Jurassic Slappass Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:56:54pm |
I was at a stop light in Decatur Il, looked down on the street and there was a flyer for a band called Jurassic Slappass on the ground, spewed beverage all over my dash, and have loved the name ever since
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:56:58pm |
re: #273 Charles
This weekend I'm going to code up that "users in a thread" module into a clickable button in each thread, so people can know who's reading their comments. Especially in the private threads.
Damn, Charles...you're just too good to us!
/bows to the true Blogfather...
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ArchangelMichael Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:57:54pm |
re: #274 Jurassic Slappass
Thumbs up for a cool name from over here.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:58:10pm |
You know, I was being racist tonight cause I was discussing Obama's refusal to set up the missile defense in Poland with another person at work.
And then I was being Un-American when I switched topics to health care and my opposition to many parts of the current proposals.
And someone called me a right wing fanatic because I was happy that Kazi in Denver was caught before he could plan any possible backpack bombings.
All in the day of a conservative.
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:58:18pm |
re: #271 Gus 802
Unlike we did at first. To each other.
;)
Well, yeah, but then we grew up and sang Kumbaya and everything was shiny and full of love and peace and unicorns.
It's all good.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:58:49pm |
re: #274 Jurassic Slappass
I was afraid you might tell a tale of a romantic encounter with an extremely elderly person.
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ArchangelMichael Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:59:38pm |
re: #278 Walter L. Newton
Was Dhimmi Carter following you around telling you all this?
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:59:58pm |
re: #280 Slumbering Behemoth
I was afraid you might tell a tale of a romantic encounter with an extremely elderly person.
You insensitive jerk...old folks have needs too!
///
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:00:01pm |
re: #280 Slumbering Behemoth
I was afraid you might tell a tale of a romantic encounter with an extremely elderly person.
Or that trip in the Wayback machine...
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Jurassic Slappass Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:00:09pm |
.re: #280 Slumbering Behemoth
There have been several evenings of over consumption that leave details a bit...hazy. Could be
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Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:00:21pm |
re: #279 austin_blue
Well, yeah, but then we grew up and sang Kumbaya and everything was shiny and full of love and peace and unicorns.
It's all good.
With The Cowsills playing in the background.
//
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:00:27pm |
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The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:00:46pm |
re: #242 Jimmah
Oh i love that Bill Maher column. I generally can't stand him, but that column is spot on.
It's been a week now, and I still don't know what those "tea bag" protests were about. I saw signs protesting abortion, illegal immigrants, the bank bailout and that gay guy who's going to win "American Idol." But it wasn't tax day that made them crazy; it was election day. Because that's when Republicans became what they fear most: a minority.The conservative base is absolutely apoplectic because, because ... well, nobody knows. They're mad as hell, and they're not going to take it anymore. Even though they're not quite sure what "it" is. But they know they're fed up with "it," and that "it" has got to stop.
Here are the big issues for normal people: the war, the economy, the environment, mending fences with our enemies and allies, and the rule of law.
And here's the list of Republican obsessions since President Obama took office: that his birth certificate is supposedly fake, he uses a teleprompter too much, he bowed to a Saudi guy, Europeans like him, he gives inappropriate gifts, his wife shamelessly flaunts her upper arms, and he shook hands with Hugo Chavez and slipped him the nuclear launch codes.
Do these sound like the concerns of a healthy, vibrant political party?
It's sad what's happened to the Republicans. They used to be the party of the big tent; now they're the party of the sideshow attraction, a socially awkward group of mostly white people who speak a language only they understand. Like Trekkies, but paranoid.
I know. It's not about what Obama's done. It's what he's planning. But you can't be sick and tired of something someone might do.
Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota recently said she fears that Obama will build "reeducation" camps to indoctrinate young people. But Obama hasn't made any moves toward taking anyone's guns, and with money as tight as it is, the last thing the president wants to do is run a camp where he has to shelter and feed a bunch of fat, angry white people.
Look, I get it, "real America." After an eight-year run of controlling the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court, this latest election has you feeling like a rejected husband. You've come home to find your things out on the front lawn -- or at least more things than you usually keep out on the front lawn. You're not ready to let go, but the country you love is moving on. And now you want to call it a whore and key its car.
That's what you are, the bitter divorced guy whose country has left him -- obsessing over it, haranguing it, blubbering one minute about how much you love it and vowing the next that if you cannot have it, nobody will.
But it's been almost 100 days, and your country is not coming back to you. She's found somebody new. And it's a black guy.
The healthy thing to do is to just get past it and learn to cherish the memories. You'll always have New Orleans and Abu Ghraib.
And if today's conservatives are insulted by this, because they feel they're better than the people who have the microphone in their party, then I say to them what I would say to moderate Muslims: Denounce your radicals. To paraphrase George W. Bush, either you're with them or you're embarrassed by them.
The thing that you people out of power have to remember is that the people in power are not secretly plotting against you. They don't need to. They already beat you in public.
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jaunte Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:00:59pm |
re: #278 Walter L. Newton
Well I think you were being mischaracterized, Walter.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:01:22pm |
re: #273 Charles
Nifty!
Might have other uses too!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:01:51pm |
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:01:55pm |
re: #288 jaunte
Well I think you were being mischaracterized, Walter.
Nah, we conservatives are racist fanatics, we know that.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:02:09pm |
re: #284 Jurassic Slappass
I like your sense of humor! Please come out & play, more often!
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Jurassic Slappass Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:04:06pm |
re: #290 Slumbering Behemoth
No, no, no.
However, you can't believe how comfortable one can sleep on a gravel driveway in the middle of the sticks.
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Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:05:29pm |
re: #278 Walter L. Newton
You know, I was being racist tonight cause I was discussing Obama's refusal to set up the missile defense in Poland with another person at work.
And then I was being Un-American when I switched topics to health care and my opposition to many parts of the current proposals.
And someone called me a right wing fanatic because I was happy that Kazi in Denver was caught before he could plan any possible backpack bombings.
All in the day of a conservative.
Hey, we were all pretty happy about what happened in Aurora (Denver) today. The other stuff we bounced around. I'd be game with the Poland stuff but I wore myself out on that early today.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:05:41pm |
re: #287 iceweasel
Wait, what?!? A lefty, liberal commie that can't stand Maher?
I... but... it doesn't make... :headsplosion:
/
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jaunte Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:06:12pm |
re: #291 Walter L. Newton
Nah, we conservatives are racist fanatics, we know that.
Well I know you to be a generous meteorite fan, so you rock.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:06:29pm |
re: #293 Jurassic Slappass
Yes. Yes I can.
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:08:20pm |
re: #287 iceweasel
Maher: And if today's conservatives are insulted by this, because they feel they're better than the people who have the microphone in their party, then I say to them what I would say to moderate Muslims: Denounce your radicals. To paraphrase George W. Bush, either you're with them or you're embarrassed by them.
I also generally can't stand most things that fly out of Bill Maher's piehole, but he at least has this right (and it's been something that Charles and most of us have been saying for a while now)...unfortunately, the Republican Party is running to embrace their crazies, not reject them. The only way conservatives are going to earn power again is to tell the Paulians, the Birchers, and the racists to fuck off, and I don't see that happening anytime soon, sadly.
/are you listening, Ed and AP (among others)?
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The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:08:42pm |
re: #295 Slumbering Behemoth
Wait, what?!? A lefty, liberal commie that can't stand Maher?
I... but... it doesn't make... :headsplosion:
/
heee. You can't have your head explode now, dammit, I wanted a role on Fenway and the Behemoth!
Maher is super annoying and not even always funny. He's a dick. So there!
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Gus Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:09:40pm |
re: #299 iceweasel
heee. You can't have your head explode now, dammit, I wanted a role on Fenway and the Behemoth!
Maher is super annoying and not even always funny. He's a dick. So there!
It's that snide voice and attitude of his.
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ArchangelMichael Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:09:51pm |
re: #298 talon_262
He also had it right when he kicked the Troofers out of the audience and spent a few minutes explaining why they are dumnbasses.
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:10:25pm |
But it's been almost 100 days, and your country is not coming back to you. She's found somebody new. And it's a black guy.
So how is it rounded that he is black when he is 50% black and 50% white?
Is it due to his Father being black and his Mother being white?
Would he still be called 'black' if his Father was white but his mother was black?
No snark, I am being serious here. Anyone know?
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ArchangelMichael Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:10:45pm |
I also like Maher's show when he had Christopher Hitchens on, but I don't think Bill Maher liked it.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:11:04pm |
re: #299 iceweasel
heee. You can't have your head explode now, dammit, I wanted a role on Fenway and the Behemoth!
OMG, what a great show that would be!
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:11:07pm |
re: #301 ArchangelMichael
He also had it right when he kicked the Troofers out of the audience and spent a few minutes explaining why they are dumnbasses.
Oh, really? My estimation of Maher just went up a notch or two...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:12:36pm |
re: #299 iceweasel
I wanted a role on Fenway and the Behemoth!
I would advise against that, we both have casting couches.
Fenway's is a nice, plush velvet model that vibrates.
Mine is a tight leather model with stainless steel studs.
You've been warned.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:13:29pm |
re: #301 ArchangelMichael
Really? When did he do that?
I remember Art Bell had dedicated an entire show to de-bunking 9/11 consipracy theories...
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ArchangelMichael Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:13:53pm |
re: #305 talon_262
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:13:58pm |
re: #302 Oh no...Sand People!
So how is it rounded that he is black when he is 50% black and 50% white?
Is it due to his Father being black and his Mother being white?
Would he still be called 'black' if his Father was white but his mother was black?No snark, I am being serious here. Anyone know?
Perception is reality.
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:14:31pm |
re: #307 Fenway_Nation
Really? When did he do that?
I remember Art Bell had dedicated an entire show to de-bunking 9/11 consipracy theories...
I am sure he followed it up with, "No, it wasn't even a 'gray'..."
/sorry let my coast to coast am show...
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jaunte Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:14:36pm |
re: #302 Oh no...Sand People!
So how is it rounded that he is black when he is 50% black and 50% white?
Is it due to his Father being black and his Mother being white?
Would he still be called 'black' if his Father was white but his mother was black?No snark, I am being serious here. Anyone know?
It's very complicated, but because of recent (300 years) custom here, if you 'look' African, you are called black.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:14:52pm |
re: #302 Oh no...Sand People!
Honestly, Tusken, I don't think it's a good idea to get into that kind of discussion.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:18:01pm |
re: #305 talon_262
Oh, really? My estimation of Maher just went up a notch or two...
Guys like Maher drive me nuts... Absolutely sharp, spot-on commentator one minute; tasteless, vulgar, obnoxious jerkass the next. The man is obviously not stupid, but half the time his mouth runs away with his brain.
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:22:39pm |
re: #307 Fenway_Nation
Really? When did he do that?
I remember Art Bell had dedicated an entire show to de-bunking 9/11 consipracy theories...
I miss Art Bell...long ago, when I worked third shift as a guard, I used to catch him on the radio every chance I got. He is definitely a showman and a great one at that...no matter how strange or out there his guests were, Art has a knack for keeping it a neutral as possible and asking the right questions to keep things interesting, even if you don't believe what his guests were talking about. I know he still has a guest host spot open on CtoC whenever he wants to get on the air, even though he says he retired for real this time, but I can never seem to catch him when he's on live nowadays
George Noori doesn't even come close to filling Art's shoes, IMNSHO...
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:23:12pm |
re: #312 Slumbering Behemoth
Honestly, Tusken, I don't think it's a good idea to get into that kind of discussion.
I can't remember the study, but a college was trying to pin people as 'racist' when they would refuse to acknowledge 'skin color' as an identifying marker.
But yeah, you are right. I am sure no matter how a question like this can be posited we will all be racists now. Sorry guys / girls / lizards.
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jaunte Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:23:50pm |
Good night, all.
"If you see ten troubles coming down the road, you can be sure that nine will run into the ditch before they reach you."
-- Calvin Coolidge
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ArchangelMichael Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:24:53pm |
re: #314 talon_262
George Noori doesn't even come close to filling Art's shoes, IMNSHO...
One good thing about Noori is that I think (IIRC) he's had Phil Plait on a few time to debate various Moon-Landing Hoax kooks and Mars-Face kooks.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:24:54pm |
Who's got the keys to the shower?
I just went to HA for the first time.
Need disinfectant, then soap & LOTS of hot water.
That place is either a sewer or a swamp.
YUCK!
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:26:06pm |
re: #313 Pawn of the Oppressor
Guys like Maher drive me nuts... Absolutely sharp, spot-on commentator one minute; tasteless, vulgar, obnoxious jerkass the next. The man is obviously not stupid, but half the time his mouth runs away with his brain.
That's actually a pretty good description of most political commentators. Depending on whose ox is being gored.
I remember when Maher said that the 9/11 attackers weren't cowards, that it took balls the size of grapefruits and a clear vision of will to fly planes into buildings. He was, of course, correct, in my opinion. Those bastards were *absolutely committed* to their mission.
But it flew in the face of national rage. They just *had* to be cowards! The Prez said so! We wanted to believe it! To believe otherwise would *empower* this new threat with something we didn't want to give them- legitimacy.
We didn't want to give them that power over us, so we called them cowards, and Maher lost his show. But you know what? He was right. They weren't and aren't cowards. Evil, committed, murderous, yes. But not cowards.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:26:10pm |
re: #315 Oh no...Sand People!
Just to be clear, I did not mean to imply that any racism might be inherent in your question. It's just that there are lurkers dieing to cherry pick anything from LGF comments right now, and discussing such a thing might give them what they want.
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The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:26:47pm |
re: #306 Slumbering Behemoth
I would advise against that, we both have casting couches.
Fenway's is a nice, plush velvet model that vibrates.
Mine is a tight leather model with stainless steel studs.
Decisions, decisions...damn. I have to choose?
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:27:30pm |
re: #306 Slumbering Behemoth
I would advise against that, we both have casting couches.
Fenway's is a nice, plush velvet model that vibrates.
Mine is a tight leather model with stainless steel studs.
You've been warned.
With or without restraints?
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:28:00pm |
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:28:02pm |
re: #318 Floral Giraffe
Who's got the keys to the shower?
I just went to HA for the first time.
Need disinfectant, then soap & LOTS of hot water.
That place is either a sewer or a swamp.
YUCK!
I personally enjoy the posts. I dig AP.
Just when you drop down to the comments it becomes a bit weak.
But now gotta go. Bye all.
| 325 |
ArchangelMichael Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:28:02pm |
re: #319 austin_blue
That's true, but like bitching about Ted Kennedy on his deathbed was in bad taste, so was that. Maher could have waited a few months or years to drop that bomb and no one would have blinked an eye.
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BatGuano Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:28:26pm |
re: #314 talon_262
HI Talon. you are right about Art Bell. Strange, he could pretend to believe in anything but G-d.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:29:18pm |
re: #314 talon_262
I'm not a regular listener, but know of Bell by reputation. I think this was shortly after the Popular Mechanics article debunking alot of the 9/11 conspiracies came out and he had the author on. Judging from the tenor in his voice, he seemed to have little patience for the skeptics who called up...
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:29:22pm |
re: #325 ArchangelMichael
That's true, but like bitching about Ted Kennedy on his deathbed was in bad taste, so was that. Maher could have waited a few months or years to drop that bomb and no one would have blinked an eye.
I don't disagree, but then, it wouldn't have been relevant commentary. And that was his *job*.
| 329 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:31:01pm |
The air heads should all just band together and do what they want. What are AP & Ed going to do- ban the entire blog?
*heehee*
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:32:28pm |
re: #314 talon_262
In the '90s, I was listening to one of his shows. He had an audio recording of the sounds of Hell (yes, the biblical Hell) that was obtained by people who lowered a mic far down into one of the deepest holes on the surface of the earth.
He played the audio, quite serious about it being the bona fide sounds of Hell, and I immediately recognized those sounds as being from a video game I had played recently. Silly.
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The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:32:35pm |
re: #302 Oh no...Sand People!
So how is it rounded that he is black when he is 50% black and 50% white?
Is it due to his Father being black and his Mother being white?
Would he still be called 'black' if his Father was white but his mother was black?No snark, I am being serious here. Anyone know?
Well, some of it is about one's decision how to identify.
The rest of it is reality: Obama looks black, and is treated as black, in the world.
Some identites are ones we choose, or we choose to make public. Like religion. Some are thrust upon us. I don't have a choice about being female, because that is what I am and what everyone looking at me sees. Similarly for some (not all) ethnic identities and races: They're imposed on us, rather than claimed. People look at you and assign you a category.
When Obama walks down a street, (before he was famous), he'd have been assigned the category 'black' and treated accordingly. Hence it's not at all surprising that he should claim that assignment.
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:32:59pm |
re: #329 Sharmuta
The air heads should all just band together and do what they want. What are AP & Ed going to do- ban the entire blog?
*heehee*
Well, Charles could rent out Stinky...
He'd have a blast!
| 334 |
Aye Pod Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:35:49pm |
re: #287 iceweasel
He can be a real asshole at times, but other times he is 'raaht on the money', as they say here in the deep south where I live, apparently./
I liked his movie 'Religulous' too - I actually think many lizards would enjoy it despite what they might have heard from certain quarters.
| 335 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:36:43pm |
Defy the new Soviet rules of heated atmospheric oppression!
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The Shadow Do Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:36:55pm |
re: #319 austin_blue
That's actually a pretty good description of most political commentators. Depending on whose ox is being gored.
I remember when Maher said that the 9/11 attackers weren't cowards, that it took balls the size of grapefruits and a clear vision of will to fly planes into buildings. He was, of course, correct, in my opinion. Those bastards were *absolutely committed* to their mission.
But it flew in the face of national rage. They just *had* to be cowards! The Prez said so! We wanted to believe it! To believe otherwise would *empower* this new threat with something we didn't want to give them- legitimacy.
We didn't want to give them that power over us, so we called them cowards, and Maher lost his show. But you know what? He was right. They weren't and aren't cowards. Evil, committed, murderous, yes. But not cowards.
That Maher would in any way rush to elevate the status of mass murderers was the source of the objection. Why did he do that?
That is the question.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:37:04pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:38:05pm |
re: #322 Floral Giraffe
I'm not pushy, you can have it however you like.
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drogheda Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:38:58pm |
re: #331 Slumbering Behemoth
In the '90s, I was listening to one of his shows. He had an audio recording of the sounds of Hell (yes, the biblical Hell) that was obtained by people who lowered a mic far down into one of the deepest holes on the surface of the earth.
He played the audio, quite serious about it being the bona fide sounds of Hell, and I immediately recognized those sounds as being from a video game I had played recently. Silly.
Easily explained.
Spelunker LAN party.
| 340 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:39:19pm |
re: #338 Slumbering Behemoth
'K. Hope those restraints are padded, wouldn't want to bruise you.
///must I?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:39:26pm |
re: #324 Oh no...Sand People!
I enjoyed the site quite a bit prior to the election. Now, not so much.
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The Left Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:40:13pm |
re: #334 Jimmah
He can be a real asshole at times, but other times he is 'raaht on the money', as they say here in the deep south where I live, apparently./
I liked his movie 'Religulous' too - I actually think many lizards would enjoy it despite what they might have heard from certain quarters.
No True Scotsman could raht whut you raaht, no matter how raaaht yew are.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:43:18pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:44:20pm |
re: #340 Floral Giraffe
I'm not askeered of a little bruising.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:44:36pm |
Sleepy times for me.
Good night!
Play nice, or just play well!
{Lizards}
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:44:57pm |
re: #336 The Shadow Do
That Maher would in any way rush to elevate the status of mass murderers was the source of the objection. Why did he do that?
That is the question.
Because it was the truth?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:45:50pm |
re: #337 Slumbering Behemoth
BTW, thar be a hidden linky in that post. Yar.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:47:07pm |
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:48:38pm |
re: #348 The Shadow Do
You find them somehow admirable? Interesting,
Absolutely not. Vile, despicable humans, but not cowards. Committed soldiers to a whack cause.
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Aye Pod Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:49:08pm |
re: #160 iceweasel
Sarah the Not-Governor and Not-Joe the Not-Plumber in 2012! Whee!
Plumber and Plumberer for victory on 2012!
| 351 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:50:16pm |
re: #349 austin_blue
Absolutely not. Vile, despicable humans, but not cowards. Committed soldiers to a whack cause.
"soldiers". Interesting.
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austin_blue Fri, Sep 18, 2009 11:55:03pm |
re: #351 The Shadow Do
"soldiers". Interesting.
Sorry, not going to get into a semantics battle with you. Pointless. That is how they saw themselves. How *you* see them is immaterial. It was *their* motivation that mattered on that day. They saw themselves as soldiers for Allah.
| 353 |
The Left Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:00:08am |
re: #348 The Shadow Do
You find them somehow admirable? Interesting,
That's not what he said at all, and I don't find this comment, or your attempt to insinuate something sinister about austin_blue's use of the word 'soldiers', to be anything but an attempt at a backhanded smear of him.
| 354 |
The Shadow Do Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:00:18am |
re: #352 austin_blue
Sorry, not going to get into a semantics battle with you. Pointless. That is how they saw themselves. How *you* see them is immaterial. It was *their* motivation that mattered on that day. They saw themselves as soldiers for Allah.
And you defend them along with others who would defend them. How do you feel about bus bombers, one wonders. Brave but unguided "soldiers" for Allah, I suppose.
You are very understanding Austin. This is not necessarily a virtue however.
| 355 |
The Left Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:02:30am |
re: #354 The Shadow Do
And you defend them along with others who would defend them.
He's not defending them.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:04:17am |
re: #355 iceweasel
He's not defending them.
I stand corrected. He was justifying. I recognize the difference.
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austin_blue Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:08:02am |
re: #356 The Shadow Do
I stand corrected. He was justifying. I recognize the difference.
Wow. You are thick as a brick, aren't you?
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The Left Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:10:53am |
re: #357 austin_blue
Wow. You are thick as a brick, aren't you?
he's committed to painting you, and probably all liberals, as justifiers or defenders of terrorism.
| 359 |
The Shadow Do Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:11:46am |
#319 Austin Blue
But it flew in the face of national rage. They just *had* to be cowards! The Prez said so! We wanted to believe it! To believe otherwise would *empower* this new threat with something we didn't want to give them- legitimacy.
Go ahead, give them legitimacy. No semantics.
| 360 |
Aye Pod Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:16:56am |
re: #342 iceweasel
No True Scotsman could raht whut you raaht, no matter how raaaht yew are.
From a sekrit 'no true Scotsman' to a sekrit 'no true American':
| 361 |
The Left Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:18:08am |
re: #359 The Shadow Do
#319 Austin Blue
Go ahead, give them legitimacy. No semantics.
Oh piss off! He's not giving them legitimacy or defending them!
| 362 |
The Shadow Do Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:21:04am |
re: #361 iceweasel
Oh piss off! He's not giving them legitimacy or defending them!
Well, yes actually he is. Always a pleasure to hear from you I may add.
But it flew in the face of national rage. They just *had* to be cowards! The Prez said so! We wanted to believe it! To believe otherwise would *empower* this new threat with something we didn't want to give them- legitimacy.
| 363 |
The Left Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:24:34am |
re: #360 Jimmah
From a sekrit 'no true Scotsman' to a sekrit 'no true American':
From one commie to another, Jimmah-ski...I hear the starlings are numerous in St Petersburg this time of year.
I can only find shitty live performances of this...
| 364 |
Aye Pod Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:24:45am |
re: #359 The Shadow Do
#319 Austin Blue
Go ahead, give them legitimacy. No semantics.
How does correctly describing them as fanatical zealots rather than simply as cowards give them legitimacy?
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The Shadow Do Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:27:08am |
re: #364 Jimmah
How does correctly describing them as fanatical zealots rather than simply as cowards give them legitimacy?
Cripes, how many times do I have to post this disgusting post:
But it flew in the face of national rage. They just *had* to be cowards! The Prez said so! We wanted to believe it! To believe otherwise would *empower* this new threat with something we didn't want to give them- legitimacy.
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The Left Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:28:43am |
re: #362 The Shadow Do
You're demonstrating your utter lack of reading comprehension. The point is the reluctance of people like you to acknowledge that these weren't cowardly paranoid schizophrenics who happened to get lucky.
They were committed, dedicated, fanatical. They believed they were soldiers in a religious war, and they were willing to die in that cause.
Pretending otherwise downgrades and dismisses their threat and their real commitment to jihad, idiot.
You are engaging in a very typical wingnut tactic of smearing 'teh left' as loving, defending, or justifying jihad, and at the same time deriding and dismissing the real enemy.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:30:41am |
re: #366 iceweasel
Dear Ice,
I did not make this comment:
But it flew in the face of national rage. They just *had* to be cowards! The Prez said so! We wanted to believe it! To believe otherwise would *empower* this new threat with something we didn't want to give them- legitimacy.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:41:17am |
FWIW, I do think that terrorist suicide-murderers are cowards, and I think Maher is wrong on this.
They do not engage in the act of suicide-murdering innocents with the full knowledge that it will be the end of their own lives, period, full stop. Nothing to follow.
They commit these acts convinced that they do not literally die, but that their eternal spirits get magically transported to a place of eternal delights.
Cowards.
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Aye Pod Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:43:12am |
re: #365 The Shadow Do
Cripes, how many times do I have to post this disgusting post:
But it flew in the face of national rage. They just *had* to be cowards! The Prez said so! We wanted to believe it! To believe otherwise would *empower* this new threat with something we didn't want to give them- legitimacy.
That doesn't validate the notion the way you think it does - he was saying that many people erroneously thought that this would confer legitimacy on them.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:47:31am |
re: #369 Jimmah
That doesn't validate the notion the way you think it does - he was saying that many people erroneously thought that this would confer legitimacy on them.
A charitable interpretation, not from the poster however. If that is what was meant than he should simply say so.
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Aye Pod Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:48:25am |
re: #368 Slumbering Behemoth
FWIW, I do think that terrorist suicide-murderers are cowards, and I think Maher is wrong on this.
They do not engage in the act of suicide-murdering innocents with the full knowledge that it will be the end of their own lives, period, full stop. Nothing to follow.
They commit these acts convinced that they do not literally die, but that their eternal spirits get magically transported to a place of eternal delights.
Cowards.
I understand that, SB, and I do agree up to a point, but think about it this way: how useful is the belief that these people are cowards when it comes to predicting their behaviour? What sort of actions characterize cowardice? Throwing your life away while killing the enemy isn't really one of them. But that is how these people behave. Fanatical suicidal murderous zealot is a more accurate, and more useful way of characterizing them in my view. I
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The Left Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:53:49am |
re: #367 The Shadow Do
I think Jimmah nailed it above in both posts, SD.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:54:23am |
re: #371 Jimmah
But the radical jihadis do not believe they are throwing their lives away. They believe they are getting brand new ones, full of eternal pleasures.
No different than abortion clinic bombers/doctor murderers who believe they will receive an eternal reward for their heinous actions.
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Aye Pod Sat, Sep 19, 2009 12:56:45am |
re: #370 The Shadow Do
A charitable interpretation, not from the poster however. If that is what was meant than he should simply say so.
It's pretty bloody obvious actually.
They just *had* to be cowards! The Prez said so! We wanted to believe it! To believe otherwise would *empower* this new threat with something we didn't want to give them- legitimacy.
I don't know how much more obvious it could be that those words are meant as a parody of the popular thought process on this, not an endorsement.
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Aye Pod Sat, Sep 19, 2009 1:07:08am |
re: #373 Slumbering Behemoth
But the radical jihadis do not believe they are throwing their lives away. They believe they are getting brand new ones, full of eternal pleasures.
No different than abortion clinic bombers/doctor murderers who believe they will receive an eternal reward for their heinous actions.
As I said SB, I totally understand and agree that in that sense they could be described as cowards. But in terms of their actions, its a pretty useless way of describing them. Fanatical murderous zealot on the other hand gives a much better idea of what kind of behaviour to expect. And whatever description you prefer, I think you'd at least agree that that it would be an odd person indeed who felt that such a description conferred 'legitimacy' on them.
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The Left Sat, Sep 19, 2009 1:38:26am |
re: #373 Slumbering Behemoth
But the radical jihadis do not believe they are throwing their lives away. They believe they are getting brand new ones, full of eternal pleasures.
No different than abortion clinic bombers/doctor murderers who believe they will receive an eternal reward for their heinous actions.
Fanatical murderous zealots, as Jimmah said. Both of them.
SB, I think maybe what you mean is that these people are moral cowards, in a way, because they believe they'll be rewarded in heaven for their horrible acts and that's what motivates them.
I'd agree with that.
Sadly, they aren't physical cowards-- they're happy to die or be executed.
Maybe that's how people are arguing past each other on this thread.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 19, 2009 9:45:27am |
re: #377 Anthony (Los Angeles)
You think that's wrong?
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 19, 2009 9:46:52am |
Look out! Wouldn't want to ever read anything except the approved books!
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 19, 2009 9:57:22am |
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Conservative Physicist Sat, Sep 19, 2009 10:41:46am |
Charles, thanks for recommending the Kindle. I bought my husband one for his birthday and he loves it! Especially since we can get the Wall Street Journal and the Oklahoman downloaded everyday. As okies living in Louisiana, its nice to read hometown stuff.
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BeckoningChasm Sat, Sep 19, 2009 11:17:21pm |
Nice to see the list of Kindle stuff growing, but I'm still looking for many, many titles.
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