Tonight’s cover from the Lizard Collection is The Amazing Spider-Man #45, published in February 1967, featuring Spider-Man fighting the evil Lizard (yes!) with one arm in a sling. A classic John Romita Sr. illustration.
Condition: some spine stresses but otherwise excellent, with the LC’s characteristic bright inks and white paper.
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laZardo Sat, Jun 5, 2010 9:56:39pm |
I gave up on Marvel altogether when Spiderman went emo. Eric Forman didn't even make a good Venom.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jun 5, 2010 10:02:51pm |
Spiderman vs a Lizard? Now who the heck do I root for?!!
Charles I hope you'll tell us how this one turns out.
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Irenicum Sat, Jun 5, 2010 10:09:00pm |
I'm so conflicted! I want Spidey to win. But Lizards are so cool!
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Racer X Sat, Jun 5, 2010 10:17:58pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jun 5, 2010 10:31:23pm |
That Lizard is in purple pants, and a turquiose jacket.
I like Lizards, but this one needs some help.
Go Spidey!
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Obdicut Sat, Jun 5, 2010 10:33:19pm |
re: #6 Floral Giraffe
The Lizard is actually one of my favorite Spiderman villains. He's got a great backstory, kind of the inverse of Spidey.
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Irenicum Sat, Jun 5, 2010 10:41:57pm |
Yeah. Spidey gets my vote. It's all about the webz and those 8 legs. How could I resist?
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Irenicum Sat, Jun 5, 2010 10:47:39pm |
Well this Lizard needs some sleep. A new reality beckons in the 'morrow. Be well well y'all.
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tradewind Sat, Jun 5, 2010 10:57:38pm |
Bubble bubble, mohel in trouble...../
[Link: www.iol.co.za...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:02:41pm |
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tradewind Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:04:10pm |
re: #13 Cannadian Club Akbar
There's not enough booze in the world./
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:06:23pm |
I gotta say, guys, Helen Thomas is one of those people I'd never the hell heard of until I started reading LGF. And people kept talking about how horrible she was, but basically, it was always about how she was old and ugly, so I didn't take it seriously. Just trash talk.
Took one actual clip to make me despise the woman. Maybe in future, waste less time moaning about how old she is?
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tradewind Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:09:13pm |
re: #11 Cannadian Club Akbar
She should lose her chair at the Wh press briefings, and Hearst should fire her. Politico says ' Because she's almost 90 ( she shares Obama's birthday), there is the thought that she should be allowed to go into the sunset of her career with dignity and grace '.
As if dignity or grace ever played a part in it.
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tradewind Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:11:13pm |
re: #16 SanFranciscoZionist
She's been in the front row ever since I can remember seeing White House press briefings, and the first ones I remember were George H.W. Bush's.
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tradewind Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:14:20pm |
re: #16 SanFranciscoZionist
She had an embarrassing, fawning, drooling crush on Clinton that was caricatured all over the place. Really, she almost swooned every time she talked about or to him, and made no attempts to hide it.
She was the prototype for the Obama-enchanted media of the last campaign.
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Nimed Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:17:19pm |
re: #16 SanFranciscoZionist
I gotta say, guys, Helen Thomas is one of those people I'd never the hell heard of until I started reading LGF. And people kept talking about how horrible she was, but basically, it was always about how she was old and ugly, so I didn't take it seriously. Just trash talk.
Took one actual clip to make me despise the woman. Maybe in future, waste less time moaning about how old she is?
I actually admired the hell out of that woman, as someone who always had the courage to ask the WH the questions every journalist should ask.
[Link: crooksandliars.com...]
So, for me, the video was a very painful 1 min. fall from grace.
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tradewind Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:27:18pm |
re: #20 Nimed
For the last several years she hasn't so much asked questions as embarked on tirades disguised as inquiries. Lately, she's dropped all pretense of questioning and let the rants rip.
The late Tony Snow had her number, and he nailed her.
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Bagua Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:29:32pm |
The Shallows
Author Nicholas Carr explains research into what the internet is doing to our brains.
Required viewing.
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freetoken Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:34:56pm |
re: #22 Bagua
Bagua - the PLoS entry today regarding tuna spawning and the oil spill:
[Link: everyone.plos.org...]
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abaleh Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:40:50pm |
Another aid vessel to arrive from Lebanon
Free Palestine Movement, Reporters with Borders say plan to send ship carrying dozens of activists, European MPs to Gaza as early as next weekend
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tradewind Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:42:10pm |
yawn/bed.
Now I miss Tony Snow..... what a great press secretary, and what a great human being. RIP, Tony.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:42:17pm |
Good Night, Lizards. Be well, play nicely, OR beat the crapola out of the Troll, and give it an extra *whack* for me!
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tradewind Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:43:07pm |
re: #24 abaleh
Insanity= repeating the same action over and over expecting a different result.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:46:01pm |
re: #24 abaleh
I thought women and children were starving in Gaza. Are they supposed to eat the damn MPs? Stringy.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:46:46pm |
re: #27 tradewind
Insanity= repeating the same action over and over expecting a different result.
Crazy like a fox: forcing Israel to act this charade out over and over, while the press continues to cover it.
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Bagua Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:47:37pm |
re: #23 freetoken
Bagua - the PLoS entry today regarding tuna spawning and the oil spill:
[Link: everyone.plos.org...]
That puts their spawning area and season proximal to the oil spill, not a good signal for that protected species.
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Bagua Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:53:49pm |
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Nimed Sat, Jun 5, 2010 11:54:16pm |
re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist
Crazy like a fox: forcing Israel to act this charade out over and over, while the press continues to cover it.
Hey SanFranZ, I was just meandering in the intertubes and reading a bit about Israel's history. I'm skimming this:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
You don't happen to have one of your stories on the kibbutzin, do you?
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Bagua Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:02:45am |
re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist
Crazy like a fox: forcing Israel to act this charade out over and over, while the press continues to cover it.
It is a war of attrition, each event harasses and depletes Israel's resources and sense of safety. They want Israel to feel attacked on all sides from all countries. Anytime they can provoke violence they consider it a major success.
Rockets, boats, mortars, missiles, suicide bombers and an avalanche of media hate every-time Israel defends itself. Fronts in Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, the Mediterranean, and the threat of Iran. Even Euro-moonbats joining in the Jihad.
All of them safe in the knowledge that Israel will use minimal force is self-defence and they will have very few actual martyrs. And when they do, they have another Jewish blood libel to hyperventilate about.
The year 2010.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:08:08am |
re: #32 Nimed
Hey SanFranZ, I was just meandering in the intertubes and reading a bit about Israel's history. I'm skimming this:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]You don't happen to have one of your stories on the kibbutzin, do you?
Not off the top of my head. Crazy and good folks they were, though.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:08:28am |
re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist
Not off the top of my head. Crazy and good folks they were, though.
And are, but things have changed over the years.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:08:49am |
re: #33 Bagua
They've been doing it for over 60 years.
We've been getting stronger all the time in all aspects, while they've been stagnating.
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Kronocide Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:09:57am |
re: #22 Bagua
Nice find. That's very true for me, I feel myself wanting to turn things off and get more linear. Doing to many things at once does nothing well.
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Nimed Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:13:54am |
re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist
Not off the top of my head. Crazy and good folks they were, though.
Yeah... They do appeal to the idealist in us, right? They mostly failed, but, by God, they tried! And it was really a great experiment, and one that apparently almost never involved violence on other human beings. And kibbutzin still have some influence on the Israeli society, sez the article.
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Bagua Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:15:16am |
re: #37 BigPapa
I'm ordering his book and thought it important enough to download and host the video. I've been observing this modern, ADD caused by so much electronic stimulation and multi-tasking. It is a strange change in the human condition.
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Nimed Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:18:08am |
re: #40 Bagua
I'm ordering his book and thought it important enough to download and host the video. I've been observing this modern, ADD caused by so much electronic stimulation and multi-tasking. It is a strange change in the human condition.
Interesting stuff.
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american_peanuts Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:39:10am |
re: #42 abaleh
Just saw the atricle on Ynet and came to post it here.
Your post with the original photos is horrifying.
Dunno who reads this and if you are around, but I hope to see you tomorrow at the Los Angeles Israel Consulate at 2PM.
Sorry for the OT.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:44:41am |
re: #43 american_peanuts
Should have maybe added a warning about the graphic nature of the images.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:45:46am |
re: #37 BigPapa
Nice find. That's very true for me, I feel myself wanting to turn things off and get more linear. Doing to many things at once does nothing well.
The internet is a tool, it can be used wisely or poorly. When I need to get work done, I shut all communication down. Multitasking is fine when there's a lot of space, a lot of waiting around.
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Nimed Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:47:24am |
re: #40 Bagua
I'm ordering his book and thought it important enough to download and host the video. I've been observing this modern, ADD caused by so much electronic stimulation and multi-tasking. It is a strange change in the human condition.
Bagua, I dedicate this music to you ;)
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Bagua Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:49:03am |
re: #42 abaleh
The IDF identified a group of about 50 men – of the 700 on board – who were well-trained and were stationed throughout the ship, mostly on the upper deck, where they laid an ambush for the IDF soldiers who rappelled onto the deck from helicopters.
The members of this violent group were not carrying identity cards or passports. Instead, each of them had an envelope in his pocket with about $10,000 in cash. The defense establishment suspects the funding for the mercenaries may have come from elements within the Turkish government.
Paid mercenaries, thugs.
Al-Beeb is sticking with the claim of activists.*spit*
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american_peanuts Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:00:10am |
re: #44 abaleh
Should have maybe added a warning about the graphic nature of the images.
Nope. You did right.
re: #47 Bagua
Paid mercenaries, thugs.
Al-Beeb is sticking with the claim of activists.*spit*
I don't remember losing my voice (physically) for yelling debates since Israel signed the Oslo accord.
In the past few days, I've changed the axis-point of my debate.
If you (not you...) agree Israel is a sovereign state, and has a right to live, no boat can cross into it's national waters (or threaten to do so) without a pass. I don't care if there were terrorists, peaceniks, hippied or purple dodos.
If they don't agree to this point, the debate is moot, and they have already made up their mind so I don't waste my time.
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Nimed Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:10:36am |
re: #48 american_peanuts
I don't remember losing my voice (physically) for yelling debates since Israel signed the Oslo accord.
In the past few days, I've changed the axis-point of my debate.
If you (not you...) agree Israel is a sovereign state, and has a right to live, no boat can cross into it's national waters (or threaten to do so) without a pass. I don't care if there were terrorists, peaceniks, hippied or purple dodos.
If they don't agree to this point, the debate is moot, and they have already made up their mind so I don't waste my time.
Right, but unless you consider Gaza to be part of Israel, which is not the official stance of the Israeli government, the Rachel Corrie never was in Israel's territorial waters.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:21:44am |
re: #49 Nimed
Right, but unless you consider Gaza to be part of Israel, which is not the official stance of the Israeli government, the Rachel Corrie never was in Israel's territorial waters.
My understanding was that, as part of the agreement that turned Gaza over to the Palis, Israel retained control over Gaza's airspace and territorial waters?
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american_peanuts Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:21:57am |
re: #49 Nimed
I am sorry my friend but you got a little mixup. Here are the are facts.
1) Gaza is not a state therefore it does not have international water.
2) Gaza is a territory controlled by the Hamas which is declared as a terrorist organization across the board.
3) Hamas was founded to make sure Israel is gone, Israel is in a state of war with Hamas.
4) Israel as a sovereign state is allowed to defend itseld, and bring in a state of war examine vessels approaching. Stating Rachel Corrie never was in Israel water is playing fool. They had intentions to break the blockade and they stated it officially.
Do I hear an echo or did we see these facts written 5000 times in various places ?....
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ryannon Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:25:51am |
re: #22 Bagua
The Shallows
[Video]
Author Nicholas Carr explains research into what the internet is doing to our brains.
Required viewing.
Yes and no, Bagua. People have been saying things like this since the Year One. Beware of that Apple (no pun intended) folks! All technology carries its advantages and dangers. But to bring the question back home, how's your brain feeling today? Better or worse for spending the time you do (as do I) on the Net?
I agree with his concept of a progressive neuronal reconfiguration and the modification of thought processes, but my own feeling is that it can be beneficial. Now what was I talking about? Is it true that some people don't like pineapple slices on pizza? I still don't understand the last episode of Lost.
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ryannon Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:27:01am |
re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist
I thought women and children were starving in Gaza. Are they supposed to eat the damn MPs? Stringy.
Maybe we could donate some of the Trolls we've got in the freezer.
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Nimed Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:29:21am |
re: #50 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
My understanding was that, as part of the agreement that turned Gaza over to the Palis, Israel retained control over Gaza's airspace and territorial waters?
There was no agreement -- the disengagement from Gaza was unilateral.
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american_peanuts Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:30:19am |
re: #54 Nimed
Please see #51 , I just stepped in to see whats up, didn't mean to start the whole debate, and on a Spidy thread of all.
Have a good night !
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ryannon Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:32:19am |
re: #51 american_peanuts
I am sorry my friend but you got a little mixup. Here are the are facts.
1) Gaza is not a state therefore it does not have international water.
2) Gaza is a territory controlled by the Hamas which is declared as a terrorist organization across the board.
3) Hamas was founded to make sure Israel is gone, Israel is in a state of war with Hamas.
4) Israel as a sovereign state is allowed to defend itseld, and bring in a state of war examine vessels approaching. Stating Rachel Corrie never was in Israel water is playing fool. They had intentions to break the blockade and they stated it officially.Do I hear an echo or did we see these facts written 5000 times in various places ?...
5,475, exactly. But you have to know how to read to find them.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:33:57am |
Weird story of the day.
Porn actor sought in slaying dies after falling off cliff
A porn actor, who was accused of killing a coworker with a sword, died after falling off a cliff Saturday when police used a stun gun to subdue him.
Police said Stephen Clancy Hill attacked three coworkers with a samurai-style sword at the scene of a pornographic film shoot on Tuesday. One of the men later died.
When police caught up with Hill on Saturday, he kept them at bay for eight hours atop a cliff in West Hills, said Officer Bruce Borihanh.
To take Hill into custody, officers used their stun guns on him, at which point he went off the cliff, Borihanh said.
Police said Hill jumped, but also added it was unclear what caused his death.
On Tuesday night, West Valley police were called to a home on Hayvenhurst Avenue following reports of an assault with a deadly weapon.
The home was being used to make pornographic films, but shoots had ended for the day.
Authorities said Hill was at the house, socializing with some coworkers. Then, without provocation, Hill grabbed a sword, which was used as a prop, and attacked one of the men, police said.
When two men tried to intervene, Hill attacked them too, police said. He then left the scene and eluded police until they spotted him Saturday.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:37:16am |
re: #54 Nimed
There was no agreement -- the disengagement from Gaza was unilateral.
Ah, my mistake, I checked to make sure I was reading the site right and I wasn't. The whole argument over who officially had control was part of Oslo, but that has since fallen through, but Israel continues to maintain control over Gaza's airspace and territorial waters.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:37:31am |
Pixies band calls off Israel gig
G-d Damned Peace Activists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bagua Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:37:40am |
re: #52 ryannon
Yes and no, Bagua. People have been saying things like this since the Year One. Beware of that Apple (no pun intended) folks! All technology carries its advantages and dangers. But to bring the question back home, how's your brain feeling today? Better or worse for spending the time you do (as do I) on the Net?
I agree with his concept of a progressive neuronal reconfiguration and the modification of thought processes, but my own feeling is that it can be beneficial. Now what was I talking about? Is it true that some people don't like pineapple slices on pizza? I still don't understand the last episode of Lost.
I also don't buy the "makes us stupider" line. If anything, it has spread knowledge and ideas at an unprecedented rate. More people read news on the internet than ever read newspapers. But the distraction claim rings true, with TV being similar.
I know personally I hate the fact that I can no longer seem to have a meeting or conversation without the other party getting calls, text messages, emails, glancing at their screens at any pause, and so on. Nor does anyone seem to think it wise to turn off these distraction.
Conversely when I'm sat at the beach without a book, I can get bored. Paradise is dull after a couple of days. There is no winning.
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ryannon Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:39:28am |
re: #61 Bagua
I also don't buy the "makes us stupider" line. If anything, it has spread knowledge and ideas at an unprecedented rate. More people read news on the internet than ever read newspapers. But the distraction claim rings true, with TV being similar.
I know personally I hate the fact that I can no longer seem to have a meeting or conversation without the other party getting calls, text messages, emails, glancing at their screens at any pause, and so on. Nor does anyone seem to think it wise to turn off these distraction.
Conversely when I'm sat at the beach without a book, I can get bored. Paradise is dull after a couple of days. There is no winning.
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freetoken Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:42:42am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:45:23am |
re: #61 Bagua
The internet makes me a pretty awesome living right now, I'm okay with it. it's the best thing that has ever happened to artists, narrow casting, longtail, it's the future of kicking ass
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:47:34am |
re: #64 WindUpBird
The internet makes me a pretty awesome living right now, I'm okay with it. it's the best thing that has ever happened to artists, narrow casting, longtail, it's the future of kicking ass
WUB, It was great to hear you've gone full time with your art! Congrats Man.
Good Morning to the East Coast Lizards, Good Evening to the West and Mountainy ones.
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Nimed Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:48:42am |
re: #51 american_peanuts
I am sorry my friend but you got a little mixup. Here are the are facts.
1) Gaza is not a state therefore it does not have international water.
Well, the position of the Israeli government is that Gaza is not part of Israel. Therefore, Gaza's shore is not part of Israel territorial waters. That's why they call it a blockade, and not merely the patrolling of Israeli waters.
2) Gaza is a territory controlled by the Hamas which is declared as a terrorist organization across the board.
3) Hamas was founded to make sure Israel is gone, Israel is in a state of war with Hamas.
Not relevant to my argument.
4) Israel as a sovereign state is allowed to defend itseld, and bring in a state of war examine vessels approaching. Stating Rachel Corrie never was in Israel water is playing fool. They had intentions to break the blockade and they stated it officially.
There are legitimate questions about the legality of the blockade under international law. See this and this. But that's neither here not there. You specifically alluded to Israeli "national waters" in 48:
If you (not you...) agree Israel is a sovereign state, and has a right to live, no boat can cross into it's national waters"
Do I hear an echo or did we see these facts written 5000 times in various places ?...
Often repeated facts may or may not be relevant, depending on the particular discussion you're having.
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Bagua Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:51:22am |
re: #64 WindUpBird
The internet makes me a pretty awesome living right now, I'm okay with it. it's the best thing that has ever happened to artists, narrow casting, longtail, it's the future of kicking ass
I wouldn't trade it myself and depend on it for many things, including work. What Carr was saying in that video was to become aware of the powerful effect it has on our consciousness, and to manage our time to reduce the temptations and distractions of constant multi-tasking. I gather from what you have said you already do this when you work, but how many of us have yet to learn that?
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freetoken Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:51:44am |
re: #66 Nimed
Jon Heller (whose website you linked) was on bloggingheads discussing this issue:
[Link: bloggingheads.tv...]
It's an interesting issue, if one is of a bent to be fascinated by sticky legal issues. Yet, I suppose, most people aren't going to be concerned with such fineness of detail about this problem.
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ryannon Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:53:15am |
re: #62 ryannon
Sorry, I totally messed up the post. I must have been thinking about something else. :-) Or perhaps it's the fact that I woke up quite early this morning. Anyway:
I know personally I hate the fact that I can no longer seem to have a meeting or conversation without the other party getting calls, text messages, emails, glancing at their screens at any pause, and so on. Nor does anyone seem to think it wise to turn off these distraction.
I see this all the time on the street: people walking around, apparently talking to themselves (what a boon cell phones have been to the authentically crazy!), texting all the time, interrupting conversations to receive a call, etc. As for me, I tend to avoid people who do this systematically in the context of personal interactions. I've also seen instances where it was actually a form of passive-aggressive behavior - a particularly handy way of indulging in it. Professionally, I don't have to deal with this at all.
Conversely when I'm sat at the beach without a book, I can get bored. Paradise is dull after a couple of days. There is no winning.
Quite honestly, I gave up reading books years ago. I've become completely visual (I can watch that ocean for hours - and not like a drooling idiot). The desire for the acquisition of information is satisfied by the Internet. As for the desire to 'escape' (s'evader in French), reading no longer provides it. Music videos and TedTalks have become staples of my intellectual input. Perhaps I've just found my level of mediocrity, or perhaps I'm on to something - at least for myself.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:57:16am |
One of the classics of Rock and Roll. First heard by me on a single speaker tape recorder in my buddy's house. I was hooked. He also introduced me to comics...
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jun 6, 2010 1:58:15am |
This version is good too....
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Nimed Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:00:53am |
re: #68 freetoken
Jon Heller (whose website you linked) was on bloggingheads discussing this issue:
[Link: bloggingheads.tv...]It's an interesting issue, if one is of a bent to be fascinated by sticky legal issues. Yet, I suppose, most people aren't going to be concerned with such fineness of detail about this problem.
Man, get outta here! I was just seeing that!
Your comment is fair, people just stop caring about legal minutiae after a while and switch to arguments of morality. But in this case the legality of the blockade acts like a giant domino -- it determines whether the boarding of the flotilla was legal, the legitimacy of the kidnapping of Gilad Shalit, etc, etc.
Anyway, I think it's important to point out that the international law is ambiguous on this -- when discussing this, people usually just pick one position and start screaming at each other instead of discussing it through.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:04:33am |
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Bagua Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:08:57am |
re: #69 ryannon
Geez, I'd hoped you had quoted for truth or something.
But agreed, I think we both find this new cell phone culture annoying and try to limit our exposure. I'm somewhat trapped in it professionally, but I'm also known for misplacing my mobile for days on end and as a result rarely get calls myself. It's other peoples mobiles ringing.
I have a similar experience with books, I don't seem to read nearly as much in books, and yet a great deal on LCDs. But yes, it is more enriching, entertaining and comprehensive now, I can do far more research as a result.
What you say about s'evader is spot on. We can no longer be satisfied with the simple distractions and need the stimulation of our techno-reality. I see the same effect with gamblers. They are not happy unless their game is spread and they are looking at cards and placing their bets. I guess the old song is apt:
How you going to keep them down on the farm
After they've seen Paree,
How you going to keep them away from Broadway,
Jazzing around, painting the town,
How you going to keep them away from harm,
That's a mystery,
They'd wish they'd never seen a rake or plow,
So who the heck can parlez-vous a cow,
How you gonna keep them down on the farm,
After they've seen Paree.
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freetoken Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:11:42am |
re: #72 Nimed
But in this case the legality of the blockade acts like a giant domino -- it determines whether the boarding of the flotilla was legal, the legitimacy of the kidnapping of Gilad Shalit, etc, etc.
Well, though this might sound a bit tautological, the only people who are going to care about this are those who care about this...
Anyway, I think it's important to point out that the international law is ambiguous on this -- when discussing this, people usually just pick one position and start screaming at each other instead of discussing it through.
I hear you. To me, the discussion which is hardly ever broached is the one of the future. As you say, people want to get into heated arguments over "fault". However, time marches forward regardless of the skill of orators or debaters. A thought experiment might go like this: What will this situation be like in 1 day, 10 days, 100 days, 1000 days, 10000 days, 100000 days? Is there some point where a magic fairy comes down and waves her wand and all of sudden the problem(s) go away? Of course not. So then the parties involved (and not some fairy) are going to have to find a way forward.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:11:42am |
I'm just going to leave my favorite Hawkwind song here
and vanish back into the timestream
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:14:08am |
Washington (CNN) - Joe Biden came under friendy fire during a summer-kickoff barbeque at the vice president's residence Saturday.During the event for White House reporters and their families, the president's No. 2 was attacked with sqiurt guns by his grandchildren and by children of members of the press corps.
Soon, his wife, Dr. Jill Biden, and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel joined in on the drenching ambush.
As part of the event, a quartet of the U.S. Navy band played country music and the Bidens provided clowns, games, and a waterslide for kids.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:17:20am |
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ryannon Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:26:32am |
re: #74 Bagua
Geez, I'd hoped you had quoted for truth or something.
But agreed, I think we both find this new cell phone culture annoying and try to limit our exposure. I'm somewhat trapped in it professionally, but I'm also known for misplacing my mobile for days on end and as a result rarely get calls myself. It's other peoples mobiles ringing.
I have a similar experience with books, I don't seem to read nearly as much in books, and yet a great deal on LCDs. But yes, it is more enriching, entertaining and comprehensive now, I can do far more research as a result.
What you say about s'evader is spot on. We can no longer be satisfied with the simple distractions and need the stimulation of our techno-reality. I see the same effect with gamblers. They are not happy unless their game is spread and they are looking at cards and placing their bets. I guess the old song is apt:
How you going to keep them down on the farm
After they've seen Paree,
How you going to keep them away from Broadway,
Jazzing around, painting the town,
How you going to keep them away from harm,
That's a mystery,
They'd wish they'd never seen a rake or plow,So who the heck can parlez-vous a cow,
How you gonna keep them down on the farm,
After they've seen Paree.
That song marked the end of what had been a traditional way of life for hundreds of years. And thousands in Europe. It marked the transition from a local, agrarian context to the pleasures of perils of the big cities. We're undergoing a similar transition right now, except that it has to do with information and information technology. At the moment, I can't think of as emblematic a song for this as the one you cited. Perhaps it's because there are hundreds of them , each corresponding to a facet of the fragmentation of our consciousness into a parallel processing, multi-tasking and globally connected entity.
I apologiez for the portentous and perhaps pretentious tone, but I'm not really used to discussing these ideas in writing. I do have the occasion to talk about them, and generally I find that easier....
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:30:02am |
*whine, whimper* Damn, now October's seeming farther away already. Oh well, E3's next week, so maybe we'll get more footage like with FO3.
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ryannon Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:31:31am |
re: #76 WindUpBird
I'm just going to leave my favorite Hawkwind song here
[Video]and vanish back into the timestream
What is this water of a thousand years of which they speak?
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Nimed Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:42:00am |
re: #75 freetoken
Well, though this might sound a bit tautological, the only people who are going to care about this are those who care about this...
Eh eh. These legal discussions sometimes do look like 3 guys sitting in a room discussing subtleties and nuances nobody else cares about. The reason I believe it's nevertheless important to say something about it is that people often act like they care about it. They root their positions in "Teh Law Says I'm Right", and that's the end of it. If you establish that this is not the case, people are forced to base their arguments on something else (hopefully a more productive something else).
I hear you. To me, the discussion which is hardly ever broached is the one of the future. As you say, people want to get into heated arguments over "fault". However, time marches forward regardless of the skill of orators or debaters. A thought experiment might go like this: What will this situation be like in 1 day, 10 days, 100 days, 1000 days, 10000 days, 100000 days? Is there some point where a magic fairy comes down and waves her wand and all of sudden the problem(s) go away? Of course not. So then the parties involved (and not some fairy) are going to have to find a way forward.
Couldn't agree more, I truly wish more people would see it like you do.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:52:14am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jun 6, 2010 2:57:26am |
Time to make coffee. Nobody post anything while I'm gone...
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MisterCookie Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:06:28am |
re: #80 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
*whine, whimper* Damn, now October's seeming farther away already. Oh well, E3's next week, so maybe we'll get more footage like with FO3.
[Video]
Here's to hoping we get news on Elder Scrolls V / Half Life 2 Episode 3. I hope Barney makes a return appearance; that bastard owes me a beer.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:12:34am |
I'm back. Reverse Psychology works!!!!
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:13:23am |
re: #85 MisterCookie
Here's to hoping we get news on Elder Scrolls V / Half Life 2 Episode 3. I hope Barney makes a return appearance; that bastard owes me a beer.
I heard it is being released as a combo pack with Duke Nukem Forever.
//
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:16:12am |
re: #87 rwdflynavy
I heard it is being released as a combo pack with Duke Nukem Forever.
//
*Whack*
The Elder Scrolls V will come out!
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:18:18am |
re: #85 MisterCookie
Here's to hoping we get news on Elder Scrolls V / Half Life 2 Episode 3. I hope Barney makes a return appearance; that bastard owes me a beer.
Hey man, he gave ya a crowbar, what more do ya want?
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:21:01am |
re: #89 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Hey man, he gave ya a crowbar, what more do ya want?
A VF-1.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:28:53am |
re: #90 Varek Raith
A VF-1.
Sure, let me just check my back pockets, I'm sure I keep one for just such occasions.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:29:52am |
re: #91 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Sure, let me just check my back pockets, I'm sure I keep one for just such occasions.
:)
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:30:29am |
I've been replaying Caesar III. So fun!
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:32:36am |
re: #93 rwdflynavy
I've been replaying Caesar III. So fun!
I've been getting my ass kicked by France in Europa Universalis III....
:(
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:36:05am |
I'm still a fan of the Age of Empires series. My Dad plays AOE II daily!
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:37:15am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jun 6, 2010 3:40:53am |
My son and I used to play AOE II multi-player. He was the only kid in his 3rd grade class who knew what a trebuchet was and how to spell it!
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:16:36am |
Good Morning gamers, blamers and canine tamers.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:21:23am |
re: #99 Spare O'Lake
Good Morning gamers, blamers and canine tamers.
Good morning to you too. Have some rage.
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Boogberg Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:21:58am |
re: #99 Spare O'Lake
Mornin'. Anything interesting going on?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:27:11am |
I'm looking for the name of the captain of the Mavi Marmara. The names of two captains--George Klontzas and Denis Healey--keep on popping up. The latter was captain of the Challenger 1 and previous ships and he was a passenger on a few trips.
Has Israel listed the names of the dead and injured terrorists?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:27:50am |
When I googled "Challenger 1" and "Challenger 2", I found out it's also the name of a British tank.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:29:28am |
TURKISH DELIGHT:
PM: Mercenaries aboard Gaza ship
By JPOST.COM STAFF AND YAAKOV KATZ
06/06/2010 12:12"Evidence shows separate group of violent Islamists boarded flotilla." Accumulating evidence in the IDF’s investigation of the Gaza flotilla incident is pointing to the fact a separate group of Islamist radicals whose sole intention was to initiate a violent conflict was aboard the Mavi Marmara, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said at the opening of Sunday’s cabinet meeting.
He said that a group of street-fighters "boarded the ship at a separate port, did their own provisioning, and were not subject to the same security check of their luggage as all the other passengers.”
The prime minister's remarks followed IDF reports that a group of about 50 men – of the 700 on board – had been identified as being well-trained, and a ringleader who recruited them from the northwestern Turkey city of Bursa.
The group was split up into smaller squads that were distributed throughout the deck and communicated with one another with handheld communication devices. The men wore bulletproof vests and gas masks and laid an ambush for the Shayetet 13 soldiers as they
rapelled onto the ship's deck from a helicopter.The members of this violent group were not carrying identity cards or passports. Instead, each of them had an envelope in his pocket with about $10,000 in cash.
Dirty fuckers.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:31:20am |
My wife looks like Jay Leno this week...
Works better than a "headache", that's fer damn sher...
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:34:34am |
re: #100 laZardo
Good morning to you too. Have some rage.
Hi there. Hamas still fires rockets into Israel on a regular basis...I believe the most recent report I have seen was late last week.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:36:08am |
re: #106 Spare O'Lake
Hi there. Hamas still fires rockets into Israel on a regular basis...I believe the most recent report I have seen was late last week.
According to the IDF Twitter, yesterday afternoon. Click "more" at the bottom until you get to the one at June 5th about 3PMish.
But this is the kind of rage instigated by a "they're firing in self-defense!" argument.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:42:41am |
re: #101 Boogberg
Mornin'. Anything interesting going on?
I'm on dial-up this morning,
My Google's really slew,
My download time's atrocious,
So I must rely on you.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:44:08am |
re: #100 laZardo
Good morning to you too. Have some rage.
"We refuse to receive the humanitarian aid until all those who were detained aboard the ships are released,"
I'm gonna' hold my breath and stomp my widdle foot until I get what I want?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:44:35am |
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:45:38am |
re: #105 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My wife looks like Jay Leno this week...
Works better than a "headache", that's fer damn sher...
Just pretend you're Conan...and she'll give you the screwing of your life.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:46:32am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:46:59am |
re: #111 Spare O'Lake
That's funny as heck!...
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:49:17am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:51:38am |
re: #111 Spare O'Lake
Just pretend you're Conan...and she'll give you the screwing of your life.
OH MY STARS!!!
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Semper Fi Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:53:05am |
Good morning lizards,
Nice experience driving in yesterday. Visited Eat at Joe's Barbecue in Wikieup, AZ and knew I was in the right place as the sign on the wall behind the cashier said:
"24 Hours in a day.
A case of beer has 24 bottles.
Coincidence?...........maybe."
Brisket sandwich 'to go' was outstanding. Looks like additional stops at Joe's are in my future.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:53:33am |
re: #115 Spare O'Lake
Here ya go:
[Link: www.jpost.com...]How's tricks?
Thanks!
I'm doing well. You?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:55:20am |
I take it that the Turkish terrorists are in Israeli detention. Were they the only ones to die? How will they identify their bodies if they had no ID?
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:55:40am |
re: #113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That's funny as heck!...
If you can't have sex you may as well have a laugh.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:56:53am |
re: #120 MandyManners
All detainees and bodies from the Mavi Marmara have left Israel.
The bodies were buried in Turkey a couple of days ago.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:57:27am |
re: #104 Spare O'Lake
TURKISH DELIGHT:
Dirty fuckers.
Unfortunately, like so much other evidence against these shitheads, because it's been revealed by the IDF, it'll get swept under the rug to keep the "peaceful activists" myth alive. It's Jenin all over again.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:57:41am |
Looks like shit could get real.
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan may personally try to break the Gaza blockade by sailing there, the Lebanese newspaper Al-Mustaqbal reported on Saturday.The paper said the report was based on Turkish sources “in the know.”
SNIP
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:59:41am |
re: #125 laZardo
Looks like shit could get real.
SNIP
If I'm not mistaken, that would be an act of war.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:59:46am |
re: #122 Boogberg
Nearly 1 Million hits for "We Con the World". :D
I sent it to just about everyone.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:00:24am |
re: #123 abaleh
All detainees and bodies from the Mavi Marmara have left Israel.
The bodies were buried in Turkey a couple of days ago.
Did they ever ID the dead? The rest of the terrorists?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:01:04am |
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Boogberg Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:01:25am |
re: #125 laZardo
Holy crap. I wonder how Israel would handle that situation. Might be better to just let him pass.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:01:52am |
re: #129 MandyManners
I'm not sure.
They didn't publish a list.
I'm sure the Turks identified them all after they got the bodies.
Did you see the pictures of the soldiers being held by the terrorists?
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:03:33am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Two NJ men were taken into custody last night on terror charges at JFK airport on their way to Somalia to join up with an al Qaeda affiliated terror group. One of them was from the next town over.
Prosecutors say more people are expected to be charged in coming days.
Meanwhile, Turkey is now claiming that Israel was behind a Kurdish attack last week. When all else fails - blame Israel.
And in the Middle East, blaming Israel is de rigueur and most fashionable. All the usual suspects do it - and hardly anyone ever calls them out for the claptrap.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:03:58am |
re: #130 MandyManners
I think Erdogan is going to have to find a way to climb down from the tree he's climbed here. He's taking it too far and I'm sure he'll be pressured to tone it down by the US administration.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:04:37am |
re: #132 abaleh
I'm not sure.
They didn't publish a list.
I'm sure the Turks identified them all after they got the bodies.Did you see the pictures of the soldiers being held by the terrorists?
Yeah, it got me going better than a whole pot of tea.
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:05:03am |
re: #131 Boogberg
The same way they did with the Corrie - professionally and without violence as long as the Turks don't throw in a bunch of jihadis to complicate matters. And I don't think the Turkish government necessarily wants to do that because if that's all caught on tape, it would make Turkey look real bad (although not to the Islamists who lap this stuff up).
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:05:09am |
re: #125 laZardo
Looks like shit could get real.
SNIP
Bag'em and tag'em, just like all the rest. Being a foreign leader does not make him above the law.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:06:14am |
re: #132 abaleh
BTW, is your nic a proper noun? How is it pronounced? AH-bah-lah?
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:08:18am |
re: #137 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Bag'em and tag'em, just like all the rest. Being a foreign leader does not make him above the law.
Uh, yeah, that would be a sure fire way to ensure an Israeli/Turkey war.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:08:27am |
re: #134 abaleh
I think Erdogan is going to have to find a way to climb down from the tree he's climbed here. He's taking it too far and I'm sure he'll be pressured to tone it down by the US administration.
I wonder if he's even half serious. It would be insane for him to gol.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:09:08am |
re: #138 MandyManners
that's how it's pronounced.
Abah is Father, and Abaleh is slang like Daddio.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:09:17am |
MY PARENTS WENT TO FLORIDA AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS TAR-BALL.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:09:42am |
re: #141 abaleh
that's how it's pronounced.
Abah is Father, and Abaleh is slang like Daddio.
Actually, it's pronounced Ah-Bah-leh
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:10:05am |
re: #142 MandyManners
MY PARENTS WENT TO FLORIDA AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS TAR-BALL.
Sorry.
You could throw it at a BP exec...
:)
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:11:15am |
re: #141 abaleh
that's how it's pronounced.
Abah is Father, and Abaleh is slang like Daddio.
Thanks!
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:11:41am |
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:12:02am |
re: #133 lawhawk
Good morning to you.
I am not surprised to see Israel blamed by Turkey for Kurdish resistance
especially in light of the Turkish moves towards Islamism and alliance with Iran. And quite frankly Israel probably has more in common with the Kurds these days than it does with the Turks.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:12:21am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:13:44am |
re: #148 Spare O'Lake
Good morning to you.
I am not surprised to see Israel blamed by Turkey for Kurdish resistance
especially in light of the Turkish moves towards Islamism and alliance with Iran. And quite frankly Israel probably has more in common with the Kurds these days than it does with the Turks.
Aren't the Kurds one of the oldest, extant ethinicities?
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:13:51am |
re: #145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"Cool cat" Hebrew?
Sort of.
It's an old time slang from the 60s I think.
when I was in the Navy in the late 90's everybody on my submarine would address each other as Abaleh for some reason. It's one of those things that you don't know where it started.
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Digital Display Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:14:59am |
re: #151 abaleh
Sort of.
It's an old time slang from the 60s I think.
when I was in the Navy in the late 90's everybody on my submarine would address each other as Abaleh for some reason. It's one of those things that you don't know where it started.
What boat did you serve on?
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:15:38am |
re: #152 HoosierHoops
What boat did you serve on?
Tanin and Rahav from the Gal class, and Leviathan from the Dolphin class.
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Boogberg Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:16:22am |
re: #136 lawhawk
The same way they did with the Corrie - professionally and without violence as long as the Turks don't throw in a bunch of jihadis to complicate matters. And I don't think the Turkish government necessarily wants to do that because if that's all caught on tape, it would make Turkey look real bad (although not to the Islamists who lap this stuff up).
Wouldn't it play out better politically if the Israelis let him pass without boarding? It would show good faith on the part of the Israelis.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:17:26am |
re: #153 abaleh
Is the Shayetet 13 the equivalent of USN SEAL?
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:17:38am |
re: #154 Boogberg
Wouldn't it play out better politically if the Israelis let him pass without boarding? It would show good faith on the part of the Israelis.
If there's one thing we've learned it's that good faith gestures get Israelis killed.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:18:06am |
re: #154 Boogberg
Wouldn't it play out better politically if the Israelis let him pass without boarding? It would show good faith on the part of the Israelis.
Let him break the blockade? Wouldn't that send a message of weakness?
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:18:52am |
re: #155 MandyManners
Is the Shayetet 13 the equivalent of USN SEAL?
Pretty much.
I'm not sure if they're exactly similar in terms of missions and capabilities but overall they're the same.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:19:21am |
re: #157 MandyManners
Let him break the blockade? Wouldn't that send a message of weakness?
Mind you, I'm not suggesting we blow Erdogan out of the water.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:20:00am |
re: #159 MandyManners
Mind you, I'm not suggesting we blow Erdogan out of the water.
but we can fantasize about it.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:20:25am |
re: #154 Boogberg
Wouldn't it play out better politically if the Israelis let him pass without boarding? It would show good faith on the part of the Israelis.
Better option would be to give whatever boat he decides to hitch a ride on the same offer given to the Corrie: Dock in Ashdod and allow the cargo to be inspected and he can personally accompany its delivery to Hamas.
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Digital Display Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:21:02am |
re: #153 abaleh
Tanin and Rahav from the Gal class, and Leviathan from the Dolphin class.
Nice having you on the board...We don't have enough sub mariners around here...
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:21:10am |
Speaking of that asshole,
Erdogan reportedly said Hamas, the legitimate winner of the Palestinian elections, was fighting for its land. "You are always talking about democracy. You’ll never let Hamas rule. What kind of democracy is this?” he reportedly said, apparently addressing the Israeli leadership.
HASSAN CHOP
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:21:28am |
re: #163 HoosierHoops
Nice having you on the board...We don't have enough sub mariners around here...
Thanks.
Are you a submariner?
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:21:29am |
re: #161 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Better option would be to give whatever boat he decides to hitch a ride on the same offer given to the Corrie: Dock in Ashdod and allow the cargo to be inspected and he can personally accompany its delivery to Hamas.
"But then we won't know how the IDF would tamper with it!"
/that was so easy it's scary
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:22:00am |
re: #160 abaleh
but we can fantasize about it.
And, pray that he's just blustering or, if he's serious, that he gets better counsel.
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Digital Display Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:23:46am |
re: #165 abaleh
Thanks.
Are you a submariner?
I was a nuke at Mare Island for 20 years.. Worked on a lot of Boats...From 637 to 688 class subs..
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:23:56am |
re: #167 MandyManners
And, pray that he's just blustering or, if he's serious, that he gets better counsel.
Or their Army says enough is enough and kicks the fuckers out of power.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:24:43am |
re: #161 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Better option would be to give whatever boat he decides to hitch a ride on the same offer given to the Corrie: Dock in Ashdod and allow the cargo to be inspected and he can personally accompany its delivery to Hamas.
How in the world could Israel guarantee his safety? I wouldn't put it past Hamas to kill him and blame Israel.
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Boogberg Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:24:52am |
I find it hard to believe that the Prime Minister of Turkey would risk trying to smuggle contraband. That would be stupid^10.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:25:14am |
re: #168 HoosierHoops
I was a nuke at Mare Island for 20 years.. Worked on a lot of Boats...From 637 to 688 class subs..
I visited on both classes.
It's a world of a difference from what we have.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:25:19am |
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:25:41am |
re: #170 MandyManners
How in the world could Israel guarantee his safety? I wouldn't put it past Hamas to kill him and blame Israel.
Hopefully the Turkish version so the Secret Service will tell him, Fuck No, you ain't going!
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:25:59am |
re: #169 abaleh
Or their Army says enough is enough and kicks the fuckers out of power.
Haven't generals been booted out for allegations of trying to stage a coup or some such?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:26:24am |
re: #171 Boogberg
I find it hard to believe that the Prime Minister of Turkey would risk trying to smuggle contraband. That would be stupid^10.
I still think it's macho bravado.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:26:30am |
re: #166 laZardo
"But then we won't know how the IDF would tamper with it!"
/that was so easy it's scary
Hence the offer to allow him to be present for the inspection and delivery. But you're right, there will be some "reason" why allowing the ship to dock in Gaza is the only way to ensure that the cargo is not tampered with and goes directly into the hands of Hamas...er, the people of Gaza.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:27:10am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:27:32am |
re: #174 Varek Raith
Hopefully the Turkish version so the Secret Service will tell him, Fuck No, you ain't going!
Like Riker would tell Picard.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:27:45am |
re: #175 MandyManners
Haven't generals been booted out for allegations of trying to stage a coup or some such?
Yes. The investigation is still ongoing. I hope the Army hasn't given up on it's job of safeguarding democracy and secularism there.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:29:01am |
re: #170 MandyManners
How in the world could Israel guarantee his safety? I wouldn't put it past Hamas to kill him and blame Israel.
Which should really be a question the Israelis are asking him right now. How will be any safer accompanying the ship directly to Gaza and offloading there? If anything, I wouldn't put it past Hamas to rig the dock, detonate once the ship is tied up, and accuse the Israelis of bombing it.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:29:46am |
re: #178 MandyManners
Who's that? Or, what's that?
The Final Fantasy series' equivalent of the Joker. Normally a perpetually-smiling guy.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:29:56am |
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:30:47am |
re: #180 abaleh
Yes. The investigation is still ongoing. I hope the Army hasn't given up on it's job of safeguarding democracy and secularism there.
If the Turkish generals are going to try to stop Erdogan, they better hurry up and do it soon. I'm not optimistic.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:30:57am |
Here's the FGM link to the passengers on the flotillas before the Corrie.
[Link: www.freegaza.org...]
Who's who in FGM.
[Link: www.freegaza.org...]
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:31:39am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:31:40am |
re: #180 abaleh
Yes. The investigation is still ongoing. I hope the Army hasn't given up on it's job of safeguarding democracy and secularism there.
Was the coup to kick out the Islamist government?
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:32:20am |
re: #186 MandyManners
Here's the FGM link to the passengers on the flotillas before the Corrie.
[Link: www.freegaza.org...]
Who's who in FGM.
[Link: www.freegaza.org...]
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:32:33am |
re: #187 Spare O'Lake
Spinning in his grave like a centrifuge.
Any faster and you could hook him to a generator and power a small country.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:33:23am |
re: #181 Boogberg
Where's Attaturk when you need him?
He's dead, Jim.
Seriously, he's spinning in his mausoleum.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:33:25am |
re: #188 MandyManners
Was the coup to kick out the Islamist government?
Yeah. The wiki also says they were against concessions to the West, not sure what that means.
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Digital Display Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:34:00am |
re: #172 abaleh
I visited on both classes.
It's a world of a difference from what we have.
We have the most powerful subs in the world...Back in the 80's we wanted to really mess with the Russian Navy.. So Every sub in the world pinged a Russian ship or boat at the exact same moment...They about shit their pants at Zulu time....The story was kept top secret for like 10 years...America messed with their heads all the time...
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:34:30am |
re: #182 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Which should really be a question the Israelis are asking him right now. How will be any safer accompanying the ship directly to Gaza and offloading there? If anything, I wouldn't put it past Hamas to rig the dock, detonate once the ship is tied up, and accuse the Israelis of bombing it.
But, according to Erdogan, they're not terrorists and they haven't any power.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:35:43am |
re: #193 HoosierHoops
We have the most powerful subs in the world...Back in the 80's we wanted to really mess with the Russian Navy.. So Every sub in the world pinged a Russian ship or boat at the exact same moment...They about shit their pants at Zulu time...The story was kept top secret for like 10 years...America messed with their heads all the time...
Good thing shitting their pants was all that happened.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:35:52am |
re: #183 laZardo
The Final Fantasy series' equivalent of the Joker. Normally a perpetually-smiling guy.
He needs to be told that it takes 42 muscles to frown but only four to reach out and bitch-slap an annoying asshole upside the head.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:36:39am |
re: #194 MandyManners
But, according to Erdogan, they're not terrorists and they haven't any power.
Question is, how willing is he to roll the dice? Hamas has got Israel looking pretty bad in the press right now, imagine the political shitstorm that would explode if he died due to an "Israeli airstrike."
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:36:54am |
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:37:21am |
re: #189 laZardo
The flotilla was organized by IHH and FGM.
All of the Turks must have been from the IHH contingent.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:40:10am |
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:40:46am |
re: #199 MandyManners
They're both anti-Islamist and pro-isolationist?
I guess.
Sounds to me like they're ultra-nationalists, and are against EU accession.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:41:10am |
re: #192 abaleh
Yeah. The wiki also says they were against concessions to the West, not sure what that means.
An appeal to those who don't want to joing EU?
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:42:09am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:42:16am |
re: #198 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Question is, how willing is he to roll the dice? Hamas has got Israel looking pretty bad in the press right now, imagine the political shitstorm that would explode if he died due to an "Israeli airstrike."
BHO needs to call him and tell him to unclench that fist.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:42:54am |
re: #200 abaleh
The flotilla was organized by IHH and FGM.
All of the Turks must have been from the IHH contingent.
I haven't seen IHH mentioned at the FGM site.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:43:51am |
re: #205 MandyManners
BHO needs to call him and tell him to unclench that fist.
Yeah, you notice I'm holdin' my breath, right?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:44:44am |
re: #200 abaleh
The flotilla was organized by IHH and FGM.
All of the Turks must have been from the IHH contingent.
Who's been paying for these flotillas? Ships aren't cheap. And, who's been paying for the travel costs for the tersymps? The FGM site says they must pay their own way but, I wonder if they really do.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:45:05am |
re: #202 abaleh
I guess.
Sounds to me like they're ultra-nationalists, and are against EU accession.
GMTA.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:45:35am |
re: #207 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, you notice I'm holdin' my breath, right?
You're gonna' turn blue!
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:48:02am |
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Boogberg Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:48:39am |
Anniversary of D Day today. Thought that date looked familiar.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:48:56am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:49:17am |
re: #212 Boogberg
Anniversary of D Day today. Thought that date looked familiar.
Where's my bust of Stalin?
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:50:31am |
re: #208 MandyManners
Who's been paying for these flotillas? Ships aren't cheap. And, who's been paying for the travel costs for the tersymps? The FGM site says they must pay their own way but, I wonder if they really do.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:50:57am |
re: #212 Boogberg
Anniversary of D Day today. Thought that date looked familiar.
Those magnificent Inglourious Bastaerds!
/still need to watch the movie
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:51:12am |
Don't worry folks.
Obama and Netanyahu will work together with Erdogan to end Iranian influence in Gaza and transform Hamas into a partner for peace.
...now, where did I put that bottle?
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Digital Display Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:52:34am |
re: #214 MandyManners
Where's my bust of Stalin?
Mandy..I thought I'd put Israel at the top of the prayer list this morning.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:54:40am |
re: #208 MandyManners
Who's been paying for these flotillas? Ships aren't cheap. And, who's been paying for the travel costs for the tersymps? The FGM site says they must pay their own way but, I wonder if they really do.
Has IHH been involved before now? Were any of the previous trips paid for by Saudi Arabia's Union of Good? Did any of the tersymps get money from any of the "charitable" groups under that groups umbrella?
[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:55:12am |
re: #217 Spare O'Lake
Don't worry folks.
Obama and Netanyahu will work together with Erdogan to end Iranian influence in Gaza and transform Hamas into a partner for peace.
...now, where did I put that bottle?
Doesn't matter. The bottle is obviously empty. I think you even sniffed the fumes out of it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:55:48am |
re: #216 laZardo
Ain't about D-Day but a fantastic movie!
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:55:54am |
re: #217 Spare O'Lake
Don't worry folks.
Obama and Netanyahu will work together with Erdogan to end Iranian influence in Gaza and transform Hamas into a partner for peace.
...now, where did I put that bottle?
*Passes over a bong* Here man, I think you're gonna need somethin' a little stronger.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:57:19am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:57:42am |
re: #217 Spare O'Lake
Don't worry folks.
Obama and Netanyahu will work together with Erdogan to end Iranian influence in Gaza and transform Hamas into a partner for peace.
...now, where did I put that bottle?
Right next to the bong.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:58:06am |
re: #218 HoosierHoops
Mandy..I thought I'd put Israel at the top of the prayer list this morning.
Sounds like a good thing to me.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 5:59:54am |
re: #223 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
*Passes over a bong* Here man, I think you're gonna need somethin' a little stronger.
*toke* *toke* *toke*
.
.
.
Kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya,
Kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya,
Kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya,
*toke*
Oh lordy, won't you kumbaya.
*THUD*
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:01:17am |
re: #227 Spare O'Lake
*toke* *toke* *toke*
.
.
.
Kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya,
Kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya,
Kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya,
*toke*
Oh lordy, won't you kumbaya.
*THUD*
...*poke, poke*
Oh crap...
| 229 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:01:23am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:03:27am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:03:46am |
I hope the FBI/CIA/whatever is keeping an eye on the American tersymps and their bank accounts. Especially the Americans listed in the links below.
[Link: www.freegaza.org...]
[Link: www.freegaza.org...]
[Link: www.freegaza.org...]
[Link: www.freegaza.org...]
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:04:49am |
re: #231 MandyManners
I hope the FBI/CIA/whatever is keeping an eye on the American tersymps and their bank accounts. Especially the Americans listed in the links below.
[Link: www.freegaza.org...]
[Link: www.freegaza.org...]
[Link: www.freegaza.org...]
[Link: www.freegaza.org...]
I wish I could clone myself in order to have the time to Google these folks, and to look them up at Discover the Networks.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:06:29am |
Update on previous post.
The case underlines the deep animosity many Egyptians still hold toward Israelis, despite a peace treaty signed between the two countries 31 years ago.
The Supreme Administrative Court's decision also scores a point for Egyptian hard-liners who have long resisted any improvement in ties with Israel since the signing of the 1979 peace treaty.
In upholding last year's lower court ruling, the appeals court said Saturday that the Interior Ministry should present each marriage case to the Cabinet on an individual basis. The Cabinet will then rule on whether to strip the Egyptian of his citizenship.
SNIP
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:09:15am |
Matthias Chang Wen Chieh was on the Corrie. He's a nasty bastard who'd be at ease with Alex Jones and David Icke.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:11:37am |
re: #235 MandyManners
Hey, Abaleh? What does Arutz Sheva mean?
Channel 7
It's the radio channel for the settler movement in Israel.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:13:50am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:14:59am |
If I have slept for more than 2 hours at a time this week, I am grateful. Right now, I am exhausted.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:16:32am |
re: #233 MandyMannersUpdate on previous post.
"Mohammed Sayyed Tantawi, the late Grand Sheik of Cairo's Al-Azhar, Sunni Islam's premier institution and oldest university, has said that while marriage between an Egyptian man and an Israeli woman is not religiously forbidden, the government has the right to strip the man of his citizenship for marrying a woman from "an enemy state."
Gotta love Egypt's idea of a peace treaty.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:17:37am |
Morning lizards!
Has the left wing blogs given Israel a break yet?
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Digital Display Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:18:05am |
OTL on ESPN is covering the story about the sex trade in South Africa mushrooming before the World Cup this month..
There are gangsters selling 12-17 year old girls and they don't have any sex traffic laws there..
Heartbreaking
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:18:23am |
re: #234 MandyManners
Matthias Chang Wen Chieh was on the Corrie. He's a nasty bastard who'd be at ease with Alex Jones and David Icke.
Have you posted any of these links on the LGF Pages? I didn't see them. You should, you know. You find good stuff.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:18:56am |
re: #238 Cannadian Club Akbar
If I have slept for more than 2 hours at a time this week, I am grateful. Right now, I am exhausted.
Insomnia? Maybe it's time to see a doctor?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:19:50am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:20:13am |
re: #239 Spare O'Lake
Gotta love Egypt's idea of a peace treaty.
That's the court of last resort in Egypt so, unless the legislature does something about it, it's permanent.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:20:17am |
re: #240 NJDhockeyfan
Morning lizards!
Has the left wing blogs given Israel a break yet?
*wipes away tears from his eyes* Thanks for that, I haven't had a good laugh in days.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:20:31am |
re: #234 MandyManners
Matthias Chang Wen Chieh was on the Corrie. He's a nasty bastard who'd be at ease with Alex Jones and David Icke.
Malaysia is wonderfully schizo. Mahatir may be a nutcase but his Singapore-envy ended up sending Malaysia across a road to modern development that's really turning society on its end.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:20:35am |
re: #240 NJDhockeyfan
Morning lizards!
Has the left wing blogs given Israel a break yet?
Code Pink's still frothing.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:20:59am |
I guess not.
From HuffPo:
AFTER THE MASSACRE: The Global Impact of the Gaza Flotilla Crisis
Israeli commandoes murdered nine humanitarian aid workers in international waters. Nine were Turkish citizens; one a U.S. citizen. They wounded scores more. They imprisoned hundreds, and impounded the ships they hijacked on the high seas. Someone asked me the question: will they get away with it? So far, I answered, they HAVE gotten away with it. And if history repeats itself, if nothing changes, they will continue to get away with it.
Our job is to change history.
And this time, Israel's savagery may just have made our job a lot easier. When the histories are written, it is certain that Israel's Flotilla Massacre will be remembered as a key battle in what Richard Falk, the UN's Special Rapporteur on Human Rights in the Occupied Territory, calls Israel's "war of legitimacy." And this battle, Israel has already lost.
[snip]
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Boogberg Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:21:00am |
re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ain't about D-Day but a fantastic movie!
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:21:04am |
re: #242 marjoriemoon
Have you posted any of these links on the LGF Pages? I didn't see them. You should, you know. You find good stuff.
I tried to figure it out but it's confusing.
| 252 |
Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:21:13am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:21:25am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:22:43am |
re: #247 laZardo
Malaysia is wonderfully schizo. Mahatir may be a nutcase but his Singapore-envy ended up sending Malaysia across a road to modern development that's really turning society on its end.
Aren't the Islamists pitching a fit about modernization? If so, does the government encourage them to take out their rage on Israel, as does Saudi Arabia?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:22:52am |
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:23:10am |
re: #249 NJDhockeyfan
I guess not.
From HuffPo:
AFTER THE MASSACRE: The Global Impact of the Gaza Flotilla Crisis
The anti-Semitic mind is a fascinating thing.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:23:19am |
re: #249 NJDhockeyfan
I guess not.
From HuffPo:
AFTER THE MASSACRE: The Global Impact of the Gaza Flotilla Crisis
I don't go to HuffPo. Has the American been identified?
| 259 |
What, me worry? Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:24:35am |
re: #251 MandyManners
I tried to figure it out but it's confusing.
Oh, that's a shame. If I was there, I would help you! I think you're articles would be popular. Least I would look for them.
Is there any particular question I can help you with?
| 260 |
laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:24:42am |
re: #255 MandyManners
Yeah. My guess is that as the 21st Century slowly starts encroaching through the cracks in the ultra-religious wall, the governments respond the only way they know how.
| 261 |
MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:25:51am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:27:59am |
re: #256 Cannadian Club Akbar
[Link: www.ifitwasmyhome.com...]
(HT Lindane)
You're gonna' hafta' find a way to let go of the understandable angst you're feeling, CCA. You can't do a thing about it right now and all your worry and anger are doing is hurting you.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:28:33am |
re: #249 NJDhockeyfan
About the author of that article:
Phyllis Bennis is a fellow of the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington and the Transnational Institute in Amsterdam, and works with the U.S. Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation. She is author of Understanding the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict: A Primer.
That's all you need to know about this woman. Anytime you see the "O" word, you know where someone stands.
| 264 |
Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:28:37am |
re: #261 MandyManners
Adolf gets his rage going.
That man gets his rage goin' at the drop of a hat. He had the same reaction when his XBox Live accounted was banned.
| 265 |
MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:28:38am |
re: #257 Spare O'Lake
The anti-Semitic mind is a fascinating thing.
So is watching a virus take over a healthy cell.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:29:20am |
re: #259 marjoriemoon
Oh, that's a shame. If I was there, I would help you! I think you're articles would be popular. Least I would look for them.
Is there any particular question I can help you with?
I just need to hunker down and work it.
| 268 |
MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:29:35am |
re: #259 marjoriemoon
Oh, that's a shame. If I was there, I would help you! I think you're articles would be popular. Least I would look for them.
Is there any particular question I can help you with?
But, thanks for your offer anyway!
| 269 |
Digital Display Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:29:48am |
| 270 |
Boogberg Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:29:55am |
re: #264 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
That one was hilarious! :D
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:31:58am |
re: #260 laZardo
Yeah. My guess is that as the 21st Century slowly starts encroaching through the cracks in the ultra-religious wall, the governments respond the only way they know how.
All that does is encourage below-the-radar activity.
Reminds me of how the US keeps on changing the currency's appearance trying to keep up with counterfeiters.
| 272 |
abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:32:54am |
re: #258 MandyManners
I don't go to HuffPo. Has the American been identified?
| 273 |
NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:33:09am |
Photos of bloodied Israeli soldiers aboard Turkish ship...
Courtesy of the Hurriyet Daily News in Turkey.
| 274 |
abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:34:25am |
Iran Revolutionary Guards ready to escort ships to Gaza
Target practice (-;
| 275 |
Digital Display Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:34:39am |
re: #272 abaleh
The only problem about the source is it came from Turkey..I'm not sure we can trust and verify the source..
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:34:39am |
re: #264 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
That man gets his rage goin' at the drop of a hat. He had the same reaction when his XBox Live accounted was banned.
He was a tetchy little bastard, wasn't he?
| 277 |
MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:35:01am |
| 278 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:35:22am |
re: #273 NJDhockeyfan
Photos of bloodied Israeli soldiers aboard Turkish ship...
Courtesy of the Hurriyet Daily News in Turkey.
Notice those are pics taken by the "Peace Activists" themselves. The activist in the first pic is holding a knife standing over the bloody soldier.
| 279 |
MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:35:23am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:36:09am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:36:42am |
re: #274 abaleh
Iran Revolutionary Guards ready to escort ships to Gaza
Target practice (-;
Are they out of their minds?
| 282 |
NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:36:47am |
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:37:02am |
re: #271 MandyManners
All that does is encourage below-the-radar activity.
Reminds me of how the US keeps on changing the currency's appearance trying to keep up with counterfeiters.
It's why Dubai has enough surveillance to cover the Hamas commander's takedown like they did. They may be crazed fundamentalists but they're also filthyfuckingrich to afford these measures.
/not that it stopped the takedown, of course. (;
| 284 |
NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:37:39am |
re: #274 abaleh
Iran Revolutionary Guards ready to escort ships to Gaza
Target practice (-;
They really need to unclench their fist.
//
| 285 |
abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:37:47am |
re: #278 Killgore Trout
Notice those are pics taken by the "Peace Activists" themselves. The activist in the first pic is holding a knife standing over the bloody soldier.
Oh please, it's obviously a ceremonial knife.
///
| 286 |
MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:38:09am |
re: #275 HoosierHoops
The only problem about the source is it came from Turkey..I'm not sure we can trust and verify the source..
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
| 287 |
laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:39:28am |
Perhaps it's just "damage control," but you have to admire how polite the government is being about the flotilla crews (that lived.)
Mr Netanyahu has described those on board the Irish-owned Rachel Corrie as "peace activists", but labelled the other vessel - the Mavi Marmara - a "ship of hate organised by violent Turkish terror extremists".
SNIP
| 288 |
MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:39:45am |
re: #283 laZardo
It's why Dubai has enough surveillance to cover the Hamas commander's takedown like they did. They may be crazed fundamentalists but they're also filthyfuckingrich to afford these measures.
/not that it stopped the takedown, of course. (;
All that money could be spent on things that actually benefit the region. But, nooo. Use it to promote ROPMA.
| 289 |
Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:40:04am |
re: #274 abaleh
Iran Revolutionary Guards ready to escort ships to Gaza
Target practice (-;
I knew Dinnerjacket was crazy, but this is a whole new level of lunacy for him.
| 290 |
laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:40:14am |
re: #285 abaleh
Oh please, it's obviously a ceremonial knife.
///
No, it's in self-defense! If you had a bunch of heavily-armed commandos trying to stop you from delivering aid to people who desperately need it, you'd fight back too!
///
/darn character-spam filter
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:41:25am |
re: #285 abaleh
Oh please, it's obviously a ceremonial knife.
///
Reuters posted the same pic but crops out the Peace Activists knife....
Image: 610x.jpg
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:41:40am |
re: #289 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I knew Dinnerjacket was crazy, but this is a whole new level of lunacy for him.
"Now this is just not helpful."
~BO
| 293 |
abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:41:41am |
re: #289 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I knew Dinnerjacket was crazy, but this is a whole new level of lunacy for him.
Unfortunately he's just bluffing as always.
| 294 |
MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:42:24am |
re: #287 laZardo
Perhaps it's just "damage control," but you have to admire how polite the government is being about the flotilla crews (that lived.)
SNIP
Does Malaysia have diplomatic relations with Israel?
| 295 |
laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:42:49am |
From the BBC articles' sidebar...
Israel, the land of non-terroristic opportunity?
Motorised rickshaws wind their way through the crowded alleyways of Ard al-Lawa as street vendors call out their wares.
This poor Cairo neighbourhood is home to an increasing number of African migrants and refugees, but many do not want to stay.
In his sparsely decorated apartment, Yahya Mohamed Idris, a refugee from Darfur in Sudan, explains how he risked everything trying to move to Israel.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:42:51am |
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:43:39am |
re: #291 Killgore Trout
Reuters posted the same pic but crops out the Peace Activists knife...
Image: 610x.jpg
Again...LGF exposes another fauxtography moment from the MSM.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:43:58am |
re: #291 Killgore Trout
Reuters posted the same pic but crops out the Peace Activists knife...
Image: 610x.jpg
Some asshole editor probably determined that the knife was not important.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:44:48am |
re: #295 laZardo
From the BBC articles' sidebar...
Israel, the land of non-terroristic opportunity?
A poor Muslim finds a home in Israel.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:45:06am |
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:45:47am |
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:46:18am |
re: #294 MandyManners
Does Malaysia have diplomatic relations with Israel?
Nope, that's why we here in the Philippines decided to bail the Malaysians out.
And mind, we were the only Asian country to vote for the 1948 Partition.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:50:34am |
Later lizards...my girls are having a birthday...the twins are 8 today!
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:50:53am |
re: #299 MandyManners
A poor Muslim finds a home in Israel.
Maybe someone should tell those folks at Kos and Huffpo how the Africans are risking death to get to Israel.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:51:36am |
re: #303 NJDhockeyfan
Later lizards...my girls are having a birthday...the twins are 8 today!
double Mazel Tov!
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:52:29am |
It's Iranian so take their bios with a whole shaker of salt.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:52:50am |
re: #297 NJDhockeyfan
Again...LGF exposes another fauxtography moment from the MSM.
I'll add that to the Pages in a few minutes.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:53:20am |
re: #302 laZardo
Nope, that's why we here in the Philippines decided to bail the Malaysians out.
And mind, we were the only Asian country to vote for the 1948 Partition.
IIRC, the Husseini family nixed the partition.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:53:40am |
re: #303 NJDhockeyfan
Later lizards...my girls are having a birthday...the twins are 8 today!
Happy Birthday, girls!
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:53:48am |
re: #307 Killgore Trout
I'll add that to the Pages in a few minutes.
Sweet...I hope Charles makes a thread about it.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:54:08am |
re: #304 marjoriemoon
Maybe someone should tell those folks at Kos and Huffpo how the Africans are risking death to get to Israel.
And, how Egypt gasses the tunnels and that Egypt also has a fence.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:54:13am |
re: #295 laZardo
From the BBC articles' sidebar...
Israel, the land of non-terroristic opportunity?
I'm in an LGF Pages kinda mood :) You should post that one there.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:54:52am |
re: #310 Boogberg
Hell if I know. Where?
Beats me. Didn't the Russians take over that part of Berlin?
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:58:09am |
re: #308 MandyManners
IIRC, the Husseini family nixed the partition.
And were eventually sidelined and left to die largely irrelevant thanks to the now-famous factional warfare over who is really "the most Palestinian."
Strange how things work out. O:
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 6:59:05am |
re: #317 laZardo
And were eventually sidelined and left to die largely irrelevant thanks to the now-famous factional warfare over who is really "the most Palestinian."
Strange how things work out. O:
One of the Nashashibi descendants lives in California. I wonder what happened to the rest of them.
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Digital Display Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:00:10am |
The Little green football prayer list
This day in History…It is D-Day
Although the term D-Day is used routinely as military lingo for the day an operation or event will take place, for many it is also synonymous with June 6, 1944, the day the Allied powers crossed the English Channel and landed on the beaches of Normandy, France, beginning the liberation of Western Europe from Nazi control during World War II..
Lord Almighty we pray this morning for the nation of Israel. Hold up their Nation and give them Strength and wisdom. We pray this morning that you grant grace to the men and women serving in the IDF. Hold your people in your strong arms Dear Lord and protect them forever.
We pray today for the Gulf Coast of America and for all those whose lives are affected by the oil spill. We pray for the environment that is being damaged.
We pray for Roi this morning…Because of the Oil spill he may be out of work.. Find him work we pray.
Obdicut: My friend Pam, who's ovarian cancer has returned. She's going into chemo again. And she believes in the power of prayer.
Dark_Falcon: His Mother had a stroke..She is getting better.. Please heal her Lord
Jadespring: Dear Lord bring healing to a Sister.. Bring grace and strength to the Family.
We pray for your tender mercies
Wlewisiii: If you would pray as appropriate to your beliefs for John Freuh, his step-mother, my sister Elisabeth & his father Rick, I'd appreciate it.
Dear Lord..We ask you this day you bring healing and grace to SFZ’s Father and Mother-in-law..
Help her in the Job search and finding her a new Career. .
We know your love brings healing and life.
Dear Lord..We pray for SFZ this morning:
Her friend of a friend has a newborn son facing some bad medical issues. Prayers for Grant, son of Jill and Steven, are greatly appreciated.
Ausador: Parents
Irenicum: Lord heal this family and bring comfort to them..
Guanxi88: Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife's best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.
Reine: Health and Family.. Lord we ask you grant Reine’s Daughter a Special blessing..Look after her and grant grace.
gregb - 4 year old son who suffered a head injury last Friday and spent the
weekend in the ICU with some lingering effects all week.Jadespring: Our prayers go out to your sister…May she be healed
Baseballmom57: My God grant grace and healing to her son…
lurking faith… prayers for an aunt
Beekiller: Sister has been diagnosed with Cancer…We pray for a speedy recovery
FBV: Add my friend Jeff. Recently diagnosed with ALS. His family will watch him fade and die over the next three to five years. Wife and two kids (kids are young adults).
Prairiefire: Health for Family and friends
Mcspiff: if you could add my uncle to the list. He went in for surgery today and it didn't go so well. Extra organs had to come out, etc. Still just hearing bits and pieces now. But any prayers would be greatly appreciated.
Alouette’ Dear Father..His name in Hebrew is Pinhas ben Rivka. , and he is in congestive heart failure. He is 91 years old, and a WW2 Pacific vet.
Reloadingisnotahobby: Could add my parents?
They're in their 80's and slipping in to ALZ...Simultaneously
Lizard prayers for Beau Biden.
We pray for all our Troops who have died protecting our Freedom.. Comfort the families Dear Lord this morning…
Give strength to all our Armed Forces serving at home or abroad …America thanks you.
God Bless President Obama and his family…
God Bless Israel.. Continue to bless her with prosperity and strength…The land of Milk and Honey…
Thank you Lord..
Amen
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:01:06am |
re: #261 MandyManners
Adolf gets his rage going.
The first "Downfall" parody I ever watched was about Hillary losing the nomination. Since then there have been so many, and such really lame ones, I know the German dialogue by heart and it's too distracting to listen to any more. With the sound turned off, it's just lame.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:01:37am |
re: #314 marjoriemoon
I'm in an LGF Pages kinda mood :) You should post that one there.
How do I get the link to show up as the main title? I only get "Title" and "Text" and "Tags" but no "URL." Do I just use HTML code?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:04:19am |
re: #320 Alouette
The first "Downfall" parody I ever watched was about Hillary losing the nomination. Since then there have been so many, and such really lame ones, I know the German dialogue by heart and it's too distracting to listen to any more. With the sound turned off, it's just lame.
I missed that one. The first one I saw had me rolling in the floor, laughing.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:04:50am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:06:34am |
If you went to college with a major in "Tar-ball pick-up", you're in the cat-birds seat these days...
Also, if you majored in History or Philosophy... You can pick up Tar-balls too!
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:07:16am |
re: #320 Alouette
The first "Downfall" parody I ever watched was about Hillary losing the nomination. Since then there have been so many, and such really lame ones, I know the German dialogue by heart and it's too distracting to listen to any more. With the sound turned off, it's just lame.
The first one I saw was Hitler getting mad about the parking situation in Tel Aviv.
Hitler’s Parking Dilemma
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Boogberg Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:07:57am |
re: #315 MandyManners
Beats me. Didn't the Russians take over that part of Berlin?
Yes, and I should have known that. Shame on me! I had to look it up. :)
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:07:57am |
re: #321 laZardo
How do I get the link to show up as the main title? I only get "Title" and "Text" and "Tags" but no "URL." Do I just use HTML code?
It's really just the same as posting a comment on a thread with a few extra features. It's really easy. Give it a try.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:09:18am |
re: #291 Killgore Trout
They could've cropped out his thong, if you ask me.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:09:35am |
re: #321 laZardo
How do I get the link to show up as the main title? I only get "Title" and "Text" and "Tags" but no "URL." Do I just use HTML code?
Actually, Charles has changed it a bit from how he initially put it up, but I just type a description in the TITLE part and then cut/paste a link in the TEXT part and then write anything I want there.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:09:49am |
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cliffster Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:10:40am |
Quit blasting your unborn children with piercing rays of agony
(NaturalNews) Ultrasound is extremely damaging to the health of any unborn child (fetus). The natural health community has been warning about ultrasound for years, but mainstream medicine, which consistently fails to recognize the harm it causes, insists ultrasound is perfectly safe and can't possibly harm the health of a fetus.
As an aside, I don' think "conceited" means what this person thinks it means
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:10:47am |
re: #330 marjoriemoon
Actually, Charles has changed it a bit from how he initially put it up, but I just type a description in the TITLE part and then cut/paste a link in the TEXT part and then write anything I want there.
Could you ask Charles to change the Embed Video shortcut from Ctrl+V? I don't like it popping up whenever I paste.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:12:55am |
re: #321 laZardo
How do I get the link to show up as the main title? I only get "Title" and "Text" and "Tags" but no "URL." Do I just use HTML code?
OR when you get to the LGF PAGES, look at the right side and you'll see LGF PAGES BOOKMARKLET. Drag and drop that into your toolbar at the top of your screen. Then open up the page you want copy. With that page open, click the LGF PAGES BOOKMARKLET in your toolbar it will automatically put in the title and the link.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:13:39am |
re: #333 laZardo
Could you ask Charles to change the Embed Video shortcut from Ctrl+V? I don't like it popping up whenever I paste.
I saw that too. I just cancel it.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:16:04am |
re: #318 MandyManners
One of the Nashashibi descendants lives in California. I wonder what happened to the rest of them.
More recently, two members of the Nashashibi family became members of the Palestine National Council (PNC): Nabila Ibrahim, the first female physician in the family and Momahed Zuhdi, Minister of Finance in the Palestine National Authority (PNA).
Some members of the family are living now in Jordan as businessmen and professionals. Others are working in the Gulf States. A few family members are living in Europe and the USA as researchers, engineers, physicians and businessmen. But the majority are still living in Jerusalem where they own properties in the Old and New City.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:17:18am |
re: #330 marjoriemoon
Actually, Charles has changed it a bit from how he initially put it up, but I just type a description in the TITLE part and then cut/paste a link in the TEXT part and then write anything I want there.
I printed out that post.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:18:42am |
re: #331 Killgore Trout
I feel kinda dumb tho... I can't find what they cropped out...
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:20:09am |
re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I feel kinda dumb tho... I can't find what they cropped out...
The guy on the lower right is holding a peace knife.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:20:41am |
re: #335 marjoriemoon
OR when you get to the LGF PAGES, look at the right side and you'll see LGF PAGES BOOKMARKLET. Drag and drop that into your toolbar at the top of your screen. Then open up the page you want copy. With that page open, click the LGF PAGES BOOKMARKLET in your toolbar it will automatically put in the title and the link.
Missed by one post. Thanks anyhoo.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:20:44am |
re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I feel kinda dumb tho... I can't find what they cropped out...
It's the lower right corner. Should I make that more clear in my post? If I was better with photoshop I could add a red circle around the area.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:21:27am |
re: #338 MandyManners
I printed out that post.
Cool beans. That's really the easiest way. Charles has a how-to there too, HOW THIS WORKS, but it's a little different because he has the URL and TITLE bar separate and he changed that. But print that out too.
Don't worry about making a mistake because you can always go back and edit it if it doesn't come out the way you want. (There's a little pencil (edit tool) by the title which shows up after you put up the post.)
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:21:56am |
re: #337 abaleh
More recently, two members of the Nashashibi family became members of the Palestine National Council (PNC): Nabila Ibrahim, the first female physician in the family and Momahed Zuhdi, Minister of Finance in the Palestine National Authority (PNA).
Some members of the family are living now in Jordan as businessmen and professionals. Others are working in the Gulf States. A few family members are living in Europe and the USA as researchers, engineers, physicians and businessmen. But the majority are still living in Jerusalem where they own properties in the Old and New City.
Whatever happened to the Husseini descendants? Wasn't Arafat one? Was the Haj his uncle? Isn't there a Husseini in the PA?
Wait. Wasn't Arafat's real last name Husseini?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:22:58am |
re: #342 Killgore Trout
It's the lower right corner. Should I make that more clear in my post? If I was better with photoshop I could add a red circle around the area.
I red circle would make me feel less stupid... I still can't find it.
Like those pictures where you circle what's missing and you just can't see it....
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:23:24am |
re: #343 marjoriemoon
Cool beans. That's really the easiest way. Charles has a how-to there too, HOW THIS WORKS, but it's a little different because he has the URL and TITLE bar separate and he changed that. But print that out too.
Don't worry about making a mistake because you can always go back and edit it if it doesn't come out the way you want. (There's a little pencil (edit tool) by the title which shows up after you put up the post.)
I love the edit feature. I'm pretty sloppy with typos and bad grammar but it also makes it easy to improve a page by adding clarifications or additional information.
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Semper Fi Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:24:08am |
re: #325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If you went to college with a major in "Tar-ball pick-up", you're in the cat-birds seat these days...
Also, if you majored in History or Philosophy... You can pick up Tar-balls too!
Unfortunately, couldn't expect any credit with Reuters reporting this new career. They'd change it to "Seashell Pick-up" using their best fauxtography, apparently.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:24:48am |
re: #343 marjoriemoon
My biggest problem is psychological. I have a tendency to freeze up when I encounter tech-talk and my eyes glaze over.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:25:31am |
re: #348 MandyManners
My biggest problem is psychological. I have a tendency to freeze up when I encounter tech-talk and my eyes glaze over.
Well, you could knock me over with a feather....
/
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:25:34am |
re: #345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I red circle would make me feel less stupid... I still can't find it.
Like those pictures where you circle what's missing and you just can't see it...
There's a link to the original photograph up above.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:26:58am |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:27:16am |
re: #345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I red circle would make me feel less stupid... I still can't find it.
Like those pictures where you circle what's missing and you just can't see it...
Here's the Page I created for it: Fauxtography: Reuters Deletes Peace Activists' Weapon
You can see both versions of the picture side by side. Does that help?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:27:58am |
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:29:13am |
re: #344 MandyManners
Whatever happened to the Husseini descendants? Wasn't Arafat one? Was the Haj his uncle? Isn't there a Husseini in the PA?
Wait. Wasn't Arafat's real last name Husseini?
Arafat was a Husseini from Gaza, not to be confused with the Husayni clan from Jerusalem.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:29:16am |
re: #350 MandyManners
There's a link to the original photograph up above.
Oops. I thought it was in abaleh's No. 42. Sorry.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:29:24am |
re: #352 Killgore Trout
Here's the Page I created for it: Fauxtography: Reuters Deletes Peace Activists' Weapon
You can see both versions of the picture side by side. Does that help?
"It wasn't necessary to include it anyway, the crew were acting in self-defense."
/needs to get new desk for headslamming
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:30:24am |
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:30:30am |
re: #355 MandyManners
Oops. I thought it was in abaleh's No. 42. Sorry.
It is, you just have to scroll between the images. There are 9 in total.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:30:57am |
Here's a pic of my Peace Station under construction.
Image: death-star.jpg
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:30:58am |
re: #354 abaleh
Arafat was a Husseini from Gaza, not to be confused with the Husayni clan from Jerusalem.
What happened to the Haj's descendants?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:32:07am |
re: #352 Killgore Trout
Here's the Page I created for it: Fauxtography: Reuters Deletes Peace Activists' Weapon
You can see both versions of the picture side by side. Does that help?
Just the top of the index finger.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:32:38am |
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:33:08am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:33:19am |
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:35:43am |
re: #360 Varek Raith
Here's a pic of my Peace Station under construction.
Image: death-star.jpg
Yeah, but we've gettin' a lot of troubling reports about this *puts on reading glasses, looking at report* "superlaser" that's part of this station. Any comments?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:38:18am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:40:04am |
re: #366 abaleh
I went to college with Hussein Barghouti, the dead poet. Was he brother or cousin to Marwan and or Mustafa?
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:43:13am |
re: #366 abaleh
Not sure.
Faisal Husseini, who was a prominent PLO member, was a grand nephew of the Mufti.
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brownbagj Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:44:26am |
OT: How can I see my own Karma rating? Is this possible?
Thanks...
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researchok Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:45:19am |
How quickly the truth is sacrificed for propaganda
The UN Human Rights Council condemned Israel for its Gaza raid, but abuses abound in the countries backing the resolution
Nobody disputes that the botched Israeli commando raid on a self-described "humanitarian aid convoy" to Gaza is a public relations disaster.But much of the subsequent outrage smells more of opportunistic political theatre than genuine concern for human rights abuses.
Both sides know that the real struggle is to command the field of public opinion and so the important battles are now waged with cellphone videos, blogs and YouTube posts.
It took only minutes for what happened on the Turkish ship to play out. Then it shifted online where competing images sought to frame the incident either as a massacre of innocents or as a bloodthirsty mob of purportedly peaceful humanitarian aid workers attacking security forces.
What the videos don't offer, of course, is context. Viewers have no way of determining who's telling the truth and who's spinning for maximum effect. Is that really a paint gun in the hands of a commando, as Israeli authorities claim, or is it a deadly automatic weapon? Is that really a wooden baton wielded in self-defence by humanitarians, or is it a metal rod wielded by terrorists trying to bludgeon people to death -- and so provoke the violent response that will martyr them in their cause?
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Digital Display Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:46:18am |
re: #371 brownbagj
OT: How can I see my own Karma rating? Is this possible?
Thanks...
Click on your avatar brown
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:48:47am |
re: #369 MandyManners
I went to college with Hussein Barghouti, the dead poet. Was he brother or cousin to Marwan and or Mustafa?
not sure.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:49:44am |
re: #370 abaleh
Faisal Husseini, who was a prominent PLO member, was a grand nephew of the Mufti.
Will they dig up his body?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:50:01am |
re: #371 brownbagj
OT: How can I see my own Karma rating? Is this possible?
Thanks...
Click your football.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:52:12am |
re: #375 abaleh
He was a really sweet man. He was a graduate student in the English department.
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:53:06am |
American paralyzed in 2003 Hamas bus bombing has passed away from his injuries.
JERUSALEM – The wife of a U.S. citizen seriously injured in a Palestinian suicide bombing seven years ago says he has died as a result of complications from his wounds.
Julie Averbach says her husband, 44-year-old New Jersey native Steve Averbach, died in his sleep on Thursday.
A Hamas suicide bomber killed seven people and wounded 20 when he detonated his explosives on a packed commuter bus in Jerusalem in May 2003, at the height of the Palestinian intifada uprising.
Averbach was hit by shrapnel and paralyzed from the neck down.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:55:26am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:55:53am |
re: #379 Alouette
American paralyzed in 2003 Hamas bus bombing has passed away from his injuries.
But, that evil wall kills Gazans every day!
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:57:09am |
re: #380 abaleh
whose?
Faisal Husseini's body. The article said there were questions about his heart attack and that these questions are stronger since that Hamas killer got offed in Dubai.
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ryannon Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:57:42am |
re: #240 NJDhockeyfan
Morning lizards!
Has the left wing blogs given Israel a break yet?
According to the latest news, Michael Jackson is still dead.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 7:58:24am |
re: #381 MandyManners
But, that evil wall kills Gazans every day!
That makes the American collateral damage?
/bulging vein in my forehead vaguely resembles VW logo. o_O
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brownbagj Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:00:33am |
Thank you all. I was trying to see it without having to post first - went to account settings and couldn't find it so I thought maybe I was missing some function on my account management page.
Thanks again.
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:01:36am |
re: #382 MandyManners
I guess now we're responsible for every heart attack an Arab has.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:02:55am |
re: #385 brownbagj
Thank you all. I was trying to see it without having to post first - went to account settings and couldn't find it so I thought maybe I was missing some function on my account management page.
Thanks again.
Check it again.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:03:02am |
Morning all. I'm only here for a few minutes but this story caught my eye. Iran is apparently ready to up the ante:
Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships
This sort of action might actually benefit Israel. Direct Iranian action would at least convince the Obama Administration to be more supportive. But it's not a good thing, since it sets up a potentially lethal confrontation.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:03:12am |
re: #386 abaleh
I guess now we're responsible for every heart attack an Arab has.
It's the Zionist hair rays.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:06:37am |
re: #388 Dark_Falcon
Morning all. I'm only here for a few minutes but this story caught my eye. Iran is apparently ready to up the ante:
Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships
This sort of action might actually benefit Israel. Direct Iranian action would at least convince the Obama Administration to be more supportive. But it's not a good thing, since it sets up a potentially lethal confrontation.
Or, a chance to pressure the Israelis to concede even more?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:07:51am |
re: #388 Dark_Falcon
Morning all. I'm only here for a few minutes but this story caught my eye. Iran is apparently ready to up the ante:
Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships
This sort of action might actually benefit Israel. Direct Iranian action would at least convince the Obama Administration to be more supportive. But it's not a good thing, since it sets up a potentially lethal confrontation.
Isn't Iran already caught up in a new flotilla through their proxy, Hizb'allah?
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ryannon Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:13:07am |
re: #277 MandyManners
Where is he buried?
He gave instructions to have both his and Eva Braun's body cremated outside his bunker in Berlin after they committed suicide. Gasoline was poured over the cadavers, which were more or less consumed. All the Russians found was a mound of ash and bits of unburnt bone. But enough to identify them.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:14:48am |
re: #392 ryannon
He gave instructions to have both his and Eva Braun's body cremated outside his bunker in Berlin after they committed suicide. Gasoline was poured over the cadavers, which were more or less consumed. All the Russians found was a mound of ash and bits of unburnt bone. But enough to identify them.
What happened to the bone?
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:16:17am |
re: #393 MandyManners
What happened to the bone?
I read that the remains were buried in the front yard of the Soviet secret service HQ in Berlin or Magdberg.
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:16:33am |
re: #360 Varek Raith
We've got to nuke it from orbit. That's the only way to be sure.
Besides, that technological terror is insignificant when compared to the Force. (If by the Force you don't mean midicholrian parasites that enable you to do weird stuff).
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brownbagj Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:17:54am |
re: #387 MandyManners
Still cannot find it in account management, but for your help I have updated my avatar in your honor, but with a twist.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:19:36am |
Lol, I zapped myself...
Stupid trimmers...
:/
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:20:34am |
re: #395 lawhawk
We've got to nuke it from orbit. That's the only way to be sure.
Besides, that technological terror is insignificant when compared to the Force. (If by the Force you don't mean midicholrian parasites that enable you to do weird stuff).
What are you, some kinda warmonger. No, the sanctions against the Empire and Sith are working, we need to let the process continue to its completion. The weapons inspectors have assured us that there is absolutely no sign of weapons of mass destruction aboard this station, despite the Rebel propaganda, and we simply cannot afford a new war.
///
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:21:06am |
re: #398 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
What are you, some kinda warmonger. No, the sanctions against the Empire and Sith are working, we need to let the process continue to its completion. The weapons inspectors have assured us that there is absolutely no sign of weapons of mass destruction aboard this station, despite the Rebel propaganda, and we simply cannot afford a new war.
///
LOL@HANSBLIX.
Silly rebels.
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ryannon Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:25:20am |
re: #393 MandyManners
What happened to the bone?
Jesus, Mandy.
Ok, good question. I don't know.
But there are a number of conspiracy theories connected to Hitler's 'death'. Some of them had him living in South America or in a Bavarian monastery. Sort of like Elvis sightings.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:28:46am |
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:30:17am |
re: #393 MandyManners
What happened to the bone?
According to the Soviets, they buried them in Brandenburg until 1970, then disinterred, cremated, and their ashes scattered in the Elbe River.
As for the Russian claim about the bone fragment that laZardo posted to, DNA testing last year determined it's actually from a female who was between the ages of 20 and 40.
Thank you, Wiki.
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SoSo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:30:17am |
Is the Mexican boder and our needs any thing like the needs for the Gaza blockaid?
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:31:08am |
Anybody else havin' that feelin' of Deja Troll?
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Joo-LiZ Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:34:41am |
I dunno if it's been mentioned, but a Turkish paper has released some of the "censored" photos of "activists" that were recovered. They clearly show the commandos being dragged downstairs, beaten and bloody.
In one such photo, you can see one of the "activists" holding a knife in the bottom right corner, but Reuters has decided they'd rather not let the world know, and specifically cropped it out.
I think this is one of those things Charles loves to point out -- maliciously cropped photos by Reuters, where have we seen that before?
The original:
Reuters:
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ryannon Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:34:56am |
Fiction is Stranger Than Truth Dept.:
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:34:58am |
re: #394 abaleh
I read that the remains were buried in the front yard of the Soviet secret service HQ in Berlin or Magdberg.
Seems fitting. Or, not.
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SoSo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:35:32am |
re: #409 Rightwingconspirator
So, if there are OTM's from islamic terror countries crossing the Mexican Boarder illegaly, we the U.S. should not secure the border?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:35:34am |
Max Blumenthal claims IDF tape is fake....
IDF Admits It Doctored Flotilla Audio Clip. Washington Post’s Kessler Must Retract
It’s nice that the IDF has “clarified” its doctoring of footage. But the new clip it has released that supposedly shows “the entire segment…in which the exchange took place and the comments were made” is highly suspect as well. Why? Because it contains an exchange with Huwaida Arraf that Arraf claims took place on an entirely different attempt to break the siege — Arraf has led previous aid boats to Gaza that were intercepted and hijacked by the IDF.
LOL. It seems the Peace Activists talk about the holocaust and 9-11 a lot on these voyages.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:36:06am |
re: #396 brownbagj
Still cannot find it in account management, but for your help I have updated my avatar in your honor, but with a twist.
ACK!
I am honored.
BTW, just click on your avatar. Your Karma count is there.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:36:57am |
re: #400 ryannon
Jesus, Mandy.
Ok, good question. I don't know.
But there are a number of conspiracy theories connected to Hitler's 'death'. Some of them had him living in South America or in a Bavarian monastery. Sort of like Elvis sightings.
No, it's his genetic clones who are in South America; Brazil, to be exact.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:37:03am |
re: #410 Joo-LiZ
We're already on it.
Hopefully Charles will get that on the front page before somebody scoops us.
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SoSo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:37:10am |
re: #410 Joo-LiZ
Or, for example, some illegals from Turkey much like those on the ships attempting to crash the Gaza blockaid did the same crossing the Mexican border no big deal?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:38:21am |
re: #404 SoSo
Is the Mexican boder and our needs any thing like the needs for the Gaza blockaid?
What?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:40:00am |
Guess who just paid $1.799 for regular unleaded gasoline... Guess!
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:41:00am |
re: #421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Guess who just paid $1.799 for regular unleaded gasoline... Guess!
I just paid $2.50.
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SoSo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:41:05am |
So, the deal is we wait until we have American women and children killed by a bomb set by a Syrian illegal islamic terrorist, then we start to better secure the border. Sort of like the deal in the gulf, once it blows up, fix it too late?
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:41:20am |
re: #414 Killgore Trout
It's unfortunate and amateurish.
they should have released the full conversation to begin with.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:41:46am |
More rain again today. We had a break in the weather yesterday and I put back my row covers in the garden to keep the plants from drowning. I can't believe we're well into June and I still have row covers in my garden. I'm going to make a 3 attempt this year to plant tomatoes when this storm passes.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:42:28am |
re: #419 MandyManners
What?
One of those "Secure The Border!" guys who believe so many of America's woes can be traced to illegal immigration. Claims we'd save so much money if we barred illegals access to hospitals.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:42:29am |
re: #422 brownbagj
Bush!
Who the hell are you?
Why don't you comment more?
"How'd you get so fucking funny?"
-Steve Martin
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:42:47am |
re: #421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Guess who just paid $1.799 for regular unleaded gasoline... Guess!
...Ross Perot?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:43:59am |
re: #421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Guess who just paid $1.799 for regular unleaded gasoline... Guess!
AND got a free loaf of bread to boot!
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SoSo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:44:09am |
re: #419 MandyManners
Who are the OTM's , what do they have with them, if they mean no harm why do the come in an illegal maner, and as the ones who flew the planes were in fact over staying visas it seems we are slow learners at those to be killed some time from nows expense.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:44:13am |
re: #426 abaleh
It's unfortunate and amateurish.
they should have released the full conversation to begin with.
They should have but they did follow up with the full recording. I see no evidence that the full recording is fake. The guy even admits to making the comments although he claims it was on another voyage. He probably says shit like that all the time. Blumenthal's defense of some jackass telling Jews to go back to Auschwitz is despicable.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:44:34am |
re: #427 Killgore Trout
More rain again today. We had a break in the weather yesterday and I put back my row covers in the garden to keep the plants from drowning. I can't believe we're well into June and I still have row covers in my garden. I'm going to make a 3 attempt this year to plant tomatoes when this storm passes.
How're the tads?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:45:04am |
re: #428 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
One of those "Secure The Border!" guys who believe so many of America's woes can be traced to illegal immigration. Claims we'd save so much money if we barred illegals access to hospitals.
There might be some merit in that position but, it goes only so far.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:45:09am |
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brownbagj Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:47:14am |
re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Three kids under 6 years of age....oh, and forgot my password there for a while. Hopefully I can start up a little more.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:48:00am |
re: #432 SoSo
Who are the OTM's , what do they have with them, if they mean no harm why do the come in an illegal maner, and as the ones who flew the planes were in fact over staying visas it seems we are slow learners at those to be killed some time from nows expense.
There are Islamists in South America and Chavez does have close ties with Iran.
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SoSo Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:49:18am |
re: #428 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
How many OTM's are in jail now, who are they, what is their background, how many have we deported and why?
How many OTM's have entered from Mexico and why, where are they, what are they doing, if the border remaines unsecure how many more will enter illegal and why?
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abaleh Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:50:04am |
re: #433 Killgore Trout
I don't think the recording is fake, but as you can see, they've opened themselves to accusations of doctoring by editing out all of the filler, just like Blumenthal is doing in his piece. Once there is doctoring of the tape, no matter the legitimacy of it (editing out static or whatnot), the tape becomes the doctored tape forever.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:51:38am |
re: #439 SoSo
How many OTM's are in jail now, who are they, what is their background, how many have we deported and why?
How many OTM's have entered from Mexico and why, where are they, what are they doing, if the border remaines unsecure how many more will enter illegal and why?
Sorry sparky, but if you're lookin' for somebody to jump through hoops, you best try Sea World. You wanna make your argument, present your own facts, don't make others do your legwork.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:53:02am |
re: #441 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Sorry sparky, but if you're lookin' for somebody to jump through hoops, you best try Sea World. You wanna make your argument, present your own facts, don't make others do your legwork.
Good morning. I like your style. Old school lizard. I have enjoyed your notes about the old days here.
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Obdicut Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:53:44am |
re: #441 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Is your avatar Mechwarrior related? I feel like a recognize it, but can't place it.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:54:46am |
re: #434 MandyManners
How're the tads?
They are hanging in there. We had some sun yesterday so I finally got a good look at them. Nobody's sprouting legs yet but they look healthy. I can't wait for them to become frogs and start eating slugs. The slugs have been a huge problem this year because of the ridiculous amount of rain. Hopefully next year will be better with my own private army of frogs.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:54:55am |
re: #442 Rightwingconspirator
Good morning. I like your style. Old school lizard. I have enjoyed your notes about the old days here.
Yeah, he predates me.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:55:50am |
re: #444 Killgore Trout
They are hanging in there. We had some sun yesterday so I finally got a good look at them. Nobody's sprouting legs yet but they look healthy. I can't wait for them to become frogs and start eating slugs. The slugs have been a huge problem this year because of the ridiculous amount of rain. Hopefully next year will be better with my own private army of frogs.
I now have visions of frogs with Uzis. Wearing berets.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:56:03am |
re: #443 Obdicut
Is your avatar Mechwarrior related? I feel like a recognize it, but can't place it.
Actually it's from the Macross anime franchise, which is where Mechwarrior/Battletech "borrowed" some mech designs from. I just selected it on a lark one day, back when I found out that avatars were possible. Been thinkin' of changing it to something more...recent.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:56:49am |
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Obdicut Sun, Jun 6, 2010 8:59:05am |
re: #447 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Thanks, that's where I recognize it from.
Good quote, too. Maybe a pipboy related avatar for your next one; that's both recent and retro. Unless you're one of those NMA guys who hates FO3.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Jun 6, 2010 9:03:09am |
re: #445 MandyManners
The famous class of 04.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 9:10:39am |
re: #451 Obdicut
Thanks, that's where I recognize it from.
Good quote, too. Maybe a pipboy related avatar for your next one; that's both recent and retro. Unless you're one of those NMA guys who hates FO3.
If I hated FO3, I wouldn't have reserved it the week reservations became available, waited outside til the store opened to be the first in line to pick it up, then spent over 100 hours playing four different characters. And that's not even including the one I'm playing now on my XBox.
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Obdicut Sun, Jun 6, 2010 9:11:19am |
re: #453 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Cool. Me too-- especially with all the mods, it's a lovely playing experience.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 6, 2010 9:12:48am |
re: #454 Obdicut
Cool. Me too-- especially with all the mods, it's a lovely playing experience.
It is, which is why October is seeming farther and farther away with every new revelation about Fallout: New Vegas. With E3 being next week, I'm hopeful that we'll seem some in-game footage like we did when FO3 was there. Hopefully more combat and storyline and less going over the features we already know and love/hate.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 9:13:23am |
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albusteve Sun, Jun 6, 2010 9:13:30am |
D-Day...storming the western front to take down the vaunted Wehrmacht....
66 years ago today
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 9:14:23am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 6, 2010 9:15:02am |
Ooh. Charles has the Reuter's shot up above.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jun 6, 2010 9:19:14am |
re: #120 MandyManners
I take it that the Turkish terrorists are in Israeli detention. Were they the only ones to die? How will they identify their bodies if they had no ID?
Israel sent the bodies back to Turkey almost immediately. Big funerals. I assume the other Turks were able to identify them.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jun 6, 2010 9:20:51am |
re: #133 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Two NJ men were taken into custody last night on terror charges at JFK airport on their way to Somalia to join up with an al Qaeda affiliated terror group. One of them was from the next town over.
Prosecutors say more people are expected to be charged in coming days.
Meanwhile, Turkey is now claiming that Israel was behind a Kurdish attack last week. When all else fails - blame Israel.
And in the Middle East, blaming Israel is de rigueur and most fashionable. All the usual suspects do it - and hardly anyone ever calls them out for the claptrap.
Wait. They got a problem with Israel backing the noble and heroic Kurdish freedom fighters?
Free free Kurdistan!
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 6, 2010 9:24:23am |
Just watching my Tivo of This Week Without Stephanoplous.
John Kerry and John Cornyn (TX) were talking about the flotilla. Both gave strong statements in support of Israel. Kerry mentioned, first thing, Israel's right to defense, the 6000 missiles launched by Hamas from Gaza, Egypt's border blockade and Iran's influence in the whole sordid affair. It was a great speech.
The roundtable was George Will, Liz Cheney, Arianna Huffington and Marcos from KOS. Those two criticized Israel, of course, but Liz Cheney put them in their place. She made a wonderful statement about how the international community must stand with Israel because when we don't, it strengthens Hizbollah, Iran and Syria against them. Huffington said that what Israel did alienates the "moderates." Whom are these moderates? She didn't say.
Kerry, who visited Gaza in 2009, did not meet with Hamas. When his visit was praised by a Gazan resident, he responded:
"Your political leadership needs to make it clear how it is willing to move to make peace and those decisions have not been made yet," Kerry responded. "Your political leadership needs to understand that any nation that has rockets hitting it for many years threatening its residents is going to respond."
Kerry also said today that the aid that Israel gives weekly to Hamas doesn't even go to the people. That the Gazans were promised 15 schools to be built with the construction materials that were instead used to make weapons bunkers.
Say what you will about John Kerry, but he's a good friend to Israel.
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american_peanuts Sun, Jun 6, 2010 11:05:42am |
re: #66 Nimed
Often repeated facts may or may not be relevant, depending on the particular discussion you're having.
Good Morning.
And thank you for making my point exactly.
If you have decided that Israel has no right to exist, your entire point of view will take you exactly where your reply goes.
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Nimed Sun, Jun 6, 2010 12:44:09pm |
re: #463 american_peanuts
Good Morning.
And thank you for making my point exactly.
If you have decided that Israel has no right to exist, your entire point of view will take you exactly where your reply goes.
Shrug. You're not very bright, are you? Not even the Israel government is saying that Gaza's waters are their waters. That's how stupid your "national waters" claim is. I guess they have decided they don't want Israel to exist either.
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