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1 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:25:01pm

Yeah, an 8 year old book in a bargain bin is obvious proof that the scientific findings it talked about are nonsense.
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2 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:25:52pm

re: #1 Kragar

Fox & Friends is where brain cells go to die.

3 b_sharp  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:26:17pm

re: #1 Kragar

Yeah, an 8 year old book in a bargain bin is obvious proof that the scientific findings it talked about are nonsense.
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But the intellectual giants at Fox don’t know that.

4 erik_t  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:26:34pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Fox & Friends is where brain cells go to die.

I’ve never heard of a brain cell going to Fox & Friends.

5 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:32:35pm

Trump: The Art of the Deal


Price + Shipping
$0.01 + $3.99 shipping

6 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:32:44pm

re: #4 erik_t

I’ve never heard of a brain cell going to Fox & Friends.

You’ve never heard of junkies ending up in flophouses before they OD?

7 abolitionist  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:32:57pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Fox & Friends is where brain cells go to die.

I would have guessed Ken Ham’s Creationist Museum.

8 b.d.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:34:49pm

Their science book is the bible and you can get one of those free almost anywhere.

9 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:36:09pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Fox & Friends is where brain cells go to die.

If stupid was oil, Fox & Friends could power our nation for a century.

10 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:36:32pm

re: #8 b.d.

Their science book is the bible and you can get one of those free almost anywhere.

I keep setting bushes on fire, but they never talk to me.

11 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:37:03pm

re: #5 Kragar

Trump: The Art of the Deal

Price + Shipping
$0.01 + $3.99 shipping

Because everyone knows that the art of the deal is to get someone else to pay for shipping (Amazon shipping free for $35 and over, or Amazon Prime members). And you can now use Trump’s book as filler when buying other stuff - protect your real investment. /

12 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:41:54pm


Who’s setting the odds on who gets fired when?

I’d say it’s pretty certain Kelly’s gone.

Samson? I give him 50/50.

13 blueraven  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:42:18pm

Chris Chrisite makes statement. Basically…

Unacceptable! I Knew nothing about it. Heads will roll

14 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:42:29pm

Trump: The Art Of The Denial

15 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:42:49pm

re: #11 lawhawk

Because everyone knows that the art of the deal is to get someone else to pay for shipping (Amazon shipping free for $35 and over, or Amazon Prime members). And you can now use Trump’s book as filler when buying other stuff - protect your real investment. /

free shipping just encourages people to stay on welfare and refuse to work for me for less than minimum wage

16 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:42:54pm

re: #13 blueraven

Chris Chrisite makes statement. Basically…

Unacceptable! I Knew nothing about it. Heads will roll

My surprise, etc.

17 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:43:36pm

re: #12 lawhawk

I am shocked to find gambling going on in this establishment!

18 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:43:44pm

re: #5 Kragar

Trump: The Art of the Deal
Price + Shipping
$0.01 + $3.99 shipping

I can think of better things to waste a few bucks on….

Price: $4.95

19 erik_t  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:43:56pm

re: #13 blueraven

Chris Chrisite makes statement. Basically…

Unacceptable! I Knew nothing about it. Heads will roll

So you are incompetent, and when you spoke about it being transit research or whatever, you were talking out of your ass, lying because you actually didn’t know anything.

Good to know!

20 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:44:40pm
21 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:45:05pm

re: #18 Dr. Matt

I can think of better things to waste a few bucks on….
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Price: $4.95

Or that can of Spooge in Tomato Sauce from last night’s thread…

22 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:45:32pm

re: #12 lawhawk

23 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:45:35pm

re: #18 Dr. Matt

I can think of better things to waste a few bucks on….
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Price: $4.95

but will i smell canadian…

24 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:45:47pm

re: #18 Dr. Matt

I say phony!

25 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:46:16pm

re: #23 dog philosopher

but will i smell canadian…

Yep, the scent is Maple syrup and lumberjacks

26 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:46:32pm

So Christie just released a statement basically saying that until today he did know that all of this happened and that he doesn’t do things this way and he is disappointed in his staff and he will get to the bottom of this.

Staff just got tossed under the bus. Will the staff now toss Christie under their bus?

27 blueraven  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:46:48pm

The full statement:

“What I’ve seen today for the first time is unacceptable. I am outraged and deeply saddened to learn that not only was I misled by a member of my staff, but this completely inappropriate and unsanctioned conduct was made without my knowledge. One thing is clear: this type of behavior is unacceptable and I will not tolerate it because the people of New Jersey deserve better. This behavior is not representative of me or my Administration in any way, and people will be held responsible for their actions.”

28 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:47:17pm

re: #19 erik_t

So you are incompetent, and when you spoke about it being transit research or whatever, you were talking out of your ass, lying because you actually didn’t know anything.

Good to know!

Essentially, he’s either a bully who’s willing to shit all over the people he was elected to serve as a petty vendetta, OR he hires bullies who are willing to shit all over the people he was elected to serve as a petty vendetta.

A bad man, or a bad manager.

29 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:47:20pm

Welp.

30 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:48:12pm

Following in the footsteps of conservative icon Ronny Raygun, Chris Christie pleads ignorance about #Bridgeghazi.

31 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:49:01pm

re: #30 Dr. Matt

Following in the footsteps of conservative icon Ronny Raygun, Chris Christie pleads ignorance about #Bridgeghazi.

LOL Exactly. Was thinking the same thing.

32 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:50:23pm

re: #27 blueraven

The full statement:

So Christie got given the “Petty Tyrant or Incompetent” choice and took the usual choice of the latter. Do you want this man as a senior executive in your country when his staff goes around and does all sorts of things behind his back and without his knowledge - and apparently also lie to his face about it?

33 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:50:38pm

Regarding Christie’s statement:

How much you want to bet he’s thinking that ends the matter?

34 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:50:50pm

re: #30 Dr. Matt

Following in the footsteps of conservative icon Ronny Raygun, Chris Christie pleads ignorance about #Bridgeghazi.

(deadthreaded)

so christie never took the trouble to notice that there were traffic problems at his end of the bridge and look into it?

35 erik_t  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:50:50pm

The buck stops over there, with him!

36 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:51:29pm

re: #30 Dr. Matt

Following in the footsteps of conservative icon Ronny Raygun, Chris Christie pleads ignorance about #Bridgeghazi.

“A few months weeks ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages shut down a bridge as retaliation. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that’s true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not.”

37 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:51:52pm

Chris Ronald “Sgt. Schultz” Reagan Christie

38 mikec6666  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:52:05pm

I know its hard to believe, but my penis is a t-rex. Totally true.

39 Kilroy01  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:52:08pm

re: #18 Dr. Matt

I can think of better things to waste a few bucks on….
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Price: $4.95

Here is something also very Canadian -

Almost 7 pounds of Cheeze Whiz… Or what they call a single serving.

40 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:52:37pm

re: #33 Mattand

Regarding Christie’s statement:

How much you want to bet he’s thinking that ends the matter?

I say good luck with that. The dogs have just been unleashed.

I bet it is full fun in the Governor’s office in NJ about now. I think I can hear the bellowing all the way to here in Ohio!

41 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:52:41pm

re: #39 Kilroy01

I prefer Kraft Dinner. :P

42 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:52:48pm

re: #39 Kilroy01

Here is something also very Canadian -
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Almost 7 pounds of Cheeze Whiz… Or what they call a single serving.

After that, you’d wiz Cheese.

43 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:53:51pm

re: #39 Kilroy01

Here is something also very Canadian -
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Almost 7 pounds of Cheeze Whiz… Or what they call a single serving.

Very Philadelphia as well. One morning in Reading Terminal Market I saw a young woman in Amish dress carrying one of those cans. Wish I would have gotten a picture of it.

44 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:55:32pm

re: #40 ObserverArt

I say good luck with that. The dogs have just been unleashed.

I bet it is full fun in the Governor’s office in NJ about now. I think I can here the bellowing all the way to here in Ohio!

Willing to bet Christie drops a Sandy reference in his next comment about the matter. Something like, “My staff worked really hard on HURRICANE SANDY relief, but I’m disappointed that these people, who worked with me on HURRICANE SANDY would do this.

“Did I mention HURRICANE SANDY?”

45 Kilroy01  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:55:47pm

re: #43 Feline Fearless Leader

In BC you can find them as store end-caps. 100s of cans. Wish I had a picture of that.. Maybe next time I’m visiting.

46 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:56:03pm

‘I am outraged and deeply saddened to learn that not only was I misled by a member of my staff, but this completely inappropriate and unsanctioned conduct was made without my knowledge’

by the way, here are your winnings, governor

47 erik_t  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:57:01pm

re: #44 Mattand

Willing to bet Christie drops a Sandy reference in his next comment about the matter. Something like, “My staff worked really hard on HURRICANE SANDY relief, but I’m disappointed that these people, who worked with me on HURRICANE SANDY would do this.

“Did I mention HURRICANE SANDY?”

Thus reminding/re-raging all of the wingnuts about his Obama cooperation.

Allow me to fetch the popcorn.

48 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:57:11pm

re: #46 dog philosopher

‘I am outraged and deeply saddened to learn that not only was I misled by a member of my staff, but this completely inappropriate and unsanctioned conduct was made without my knowledge’

by the way, here are your winnings, governor

“I’m the REAL victim here!”

49 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:57:32pm

re: #47 erik_t

Thus reminding/re-raging all of the wingnuts about his Obama cooperation.

Allow me to fetch the popcorn.

Have an LOL on me!

50 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:57:38pm

re: #42 GeneJockey

After that, you’d wiz Cheese.

After eating all that you would approach going to the restroom with a great deal of fear and trepidation.

RBS

51 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:58:08pm
52 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:59:08pm

and here is something that isn’t Canadian, but probably should be… The Yankee Spam Sandwich.

Um Um Good

RBS

53 erik_t  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 1:59:08pm

re: #51 Kragar

@Kragar_LGF
Investigator reacts to leaked bridge scandal emails: Chris Christie is clueless or a liar | The Raw Story

IMPORTANT NOTE: not XOR.

54 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:01:03pm

re: #53 erik_t

IMPORTANT NOTE: not XOR.

Exactly. A Christie object can be in a state of “Clueless” and “Liar” at the same time. Not mutually exclusive. In fact, that may be the default condition.

RBS

55 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:01:33pm

Shit rolls downhill.

56 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:01:34pm

Does anyone ever remember any bully taking responsibility for anything?

I don’t. It will be all about everyone but the bully.

America is about to get to see the real Chris Christie, the one that will be a lot different under fire than the winner of an election and riding a wave of popularity.

57 b.d.  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:04:22pm

CNN.com Headline:

BREAKING NEWS
Christie: I was misled

E-mail: Time for traffic problems

58 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:04:27pm

re: #47 erik_t

Thus reminding/re-raging all of the wingnuts about his Obama cooperation.

Allow me to fetch the popcorn.

Amory gave us a popcorn dispenser in the last thread.

59 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:05:45pm

re: #54 RealityBasedSteve

Exactly. A Christie object can be in a state of “Clueless” and “Liar” at the same time. Not mutually exclusive. In fact, that may be the default condition.

RBS

Schrödinger’s Governor.

60 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:05:45pm
WASHINGTON — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) denied any involvement in a political payback scheme carried out by some of his top aides on Wednesday, saying the whole thing was “inappropriate and unsanctioned.”

“What I’ve seen today for the first time is unacceptable,” said Christie in a statement. “I am outraged and deeply saddened to learn that not only was I misled by a member of my staff, but this completely inappropriate and unsanctioned conduct was made without my knowledge.”

So, he actually admits there was wrongdoing; this certainly flies in the face of the RWNJs that have been screeching that nothing happened. Oooopsie.

61 Kilroy01  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:07:55pm

re: #58 wrenchwench

I see your popcorn and raise you 3D glasses

62 blueraven  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:09:54pm

Meanwhile in Brazil

Zoo Animals Get Iced Treats as Brazil Swelters

Brazil is sizzling, and with the heat index sometimes soaring above 120 F, keepers at the Rio de Janeiro zoo are giving the animals ice pops to beat the heat.

63 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:09:54pm

re: #60 Dr. Matt
“What I’ve seen today for the first time is unacceptable,” said Christie in a statement. “I am outraged and deeply saddened to learn that not only was I misled by a member of my staff, but this completely inappropriate and unsanctioned conduct was made without my knowledge.”

So, he actually admits there was wrongdoing; this certainly flies in the face of the RWNJs that have been screeching that nothing happened. Oooopsie.

I know where I’ve heard that before….


And as always Mr. Phelps, if you or any of your IMF team are caught or killed, the Secretary Governor will disavow any knowledge of your actions.

Good Luck Jim


RBS

64 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:09:56pm

What really sucks about this (beside the jeopardizing a town of 35,000+ people) is that Christie just bolstered the notion that NJ has one of the sleaziest, nastiest governments in the country.

Thanks for reinforcing the stereotype, asshole.

65 allegro  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:09:56pm

re: #60 Dr. Matt

So, he actually admits there was wrongdoing; this certainly flies in the face of the RWNJs that have been screeching that nothing happened. Oooopsie.

The classic definition of BUSTED!

66 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:10:32pm

re: #62 blueraven

Meanwhile in Brazil

Zoo Animals Get Iced Treats as Brazil Swelters

Brazil is sizzling, and with the heat index sometimes soaring above 120 F, keepers at the Rio de Janeiro zoo are giving the animals ice pops to beat the heat.

But it’s cold someplace, so Climate Change is a hoax.

67 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:11:13pm

re: #61 Kilroy01

I see your popcorn and raise you 3D glasses
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68 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:11:48pm

Yes, Christie is so outraged and saddened that he’s going to…to…well, from the looks of it, he’s going to wait until the people responsible hand in their resignations. God forbid that he consider, you know, firing them.

69 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:15:33pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

Yes, Christie is so outraged and saddened that he’s going to…to…well, from the looks of it, he’s going to wait until the people responsible hand in their resignations. God forbid that he consider, you know, firing them.

Lawhawk hit that earlier. Christie’s one of the “loyal to a fault” types.

Personally, I want to see Bridget Anne Kelly, author of the “Time for some traffic” comment arrested. Yesterday.

70 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:18:43pm

re: #67 Kragar

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Oh good! Another dispenser!

71 Kilroy01  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:19:12pm

re: #67 Kragar

But what would Jesus do?

72 b_sharp  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:19:31pm

Did I just hear a request for a Canadian? I may just know some.

73 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:19:40pm

re: #69 Mattand

Lawhawk hit that earlier. Christie’s one of the “loyal to a fault” types.

Personally, I want to see Bridget Anne Kelly, author of the “Time for some traffic” comment arrested. Yesterday.

With a name like Bridget….

74 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:19:57pm

Shorter Ari Fleischer: CHRISTIE SMASH!

75 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:20:21pm
76 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:21:05pm

re: #74 Lidane

Shorter Ari Fleischer: CHRISTIE SMASH!

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Just like Bush did with Iraq…. oh wait.

77 b_sharp  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:21:45pm

re: #74 Lidane

Shorter Ari Fleischer: CHRISTIE SMASH!

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Puny staff.

78 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:22:52pm

re: #69 Mattand

Lawhawk hit that earlier. Christie’s one of the “loyal to a fault” types.

Personally, I want to see Bridget Anne Kelly, author of the “Time for some traffic” comment arrested. Yesterday.

Mattand,

Do you think Kelly and others on the Christie staff actually did the bridge lane closures on their own? Earlier I had posted that I thought Christie is the kind of guy that either had it done or said okay to the idea if the staff did come up with the plan. I just can’t see a guy that flings around his power allowing a staffer to do it all without his knowledge.

79 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:23:19pm

re: #74 Lidane

How about he apologize to the millions of citizens that were inconvenienced because of this staff?

80 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:24:33pm

re: #79 Dr. Matt

How about he apologize to the millions of citizens that were inconvenienced because of this staff?

Fuck ‘em, they voted for the other team.
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81 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:24:33pm

re: #74 Lidane

Shorter Ari Fleischer: CHRISTIE SMASH!

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Ari, if he was going to do that, the time to do it was before he got up before the press and bellowed that nobody in his office had had anything to do with the whole affair. In fact, he might have saved himself a lot of grief in the beginning by agreeing to cooperate with the investigation and pressing the Port Authority to do so as well, rather than allowing things to drag on in the hopes that all the stonewalling would make the matter go away.

82 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:25:14pm

re: #74 Lidane

Shorter Ari Fleischer: CHRISTIE SMASH!

If I were Christie, I would go on camera, show how angry he is, dismiss his staff and apologize to the public - and the mayor. Be blunt.

I wonder what doing that would cost him? They are not going to just go quietly are they?

83 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:26:01pm

The Fox News article about the GWB debacle is surprisingly… well, fair and balanced for the most part.

The comment section, however…

84 ericblair  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:26:40pm

re: #82 ObserverArt

I’m guessing it’s on like Donkey Kong now. Although, if they’re going to throw Christie under the bus, they’re gonna need a bigger bus.

85 zora  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:27:31pm

re: #78 ObserverArt

There appears to have been a pattern of retribution against political adversaries in the Christie administration. They may have acted on their own if it was typical for them and bit off more than they could chew and more the governor could cover their asses for. imo

86 Flying Squirrel Girl  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:29:24pm

One of the reasons I don’t live in Costa Rica anymore.

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87 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:29:45pm

re: #81 Targetpractice

Ari, if he was going to do that, the time to do it was before he got up before the press and bellowed that nobody in his office had had anything to do with the whole affair. In fact, he might have saved himself a lot of grief in the beginning by agreeing to cooperate with the investigation and pressing the Port Authority to do so as well, rather than allowing things to drag on in the hopes that all the stonewalling would make the matter go away.

The fact that he did nothing earlier like what you suggest tells me he had the closures done, thought it was funny then and thought he could blow by it all. Now he has found himself trapped and he is not going to go down easily. He may have known a real investigation was going to be a problem.

As many have already said, it is the cover-up that always brings the big problems.

88 Aunty Entity Dragon  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:30:34pm

re: #12 lawhawk

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Who’s setting the odds on who gets fired when?

I’d say it’s pretty certain Kelly’s gone.

Samson? I give him 50/50.

The Outlaw Jersey Whale is at it again…

89 Kilroy01  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:30:57pm

re: #77 b_sharp

90 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:32:17pm

re: #87 ObserverArt

The fact that he did nothing earlier like what you suggest tells me he had the closures done, thought it was funny then and thought he could blow by it all. Now he has found himself trapped and he is not going to go down easily. He may have known a real investigation was going to be a problem.

As many have already said, it is the cover-up that always brings the big problems.

I’m still hesitant to say he knew what was going on, I could see scenarios where those in his office were operating without his knowledge. But that’s more damning, in my mind, because it invokes in one’s mind images of Iran-Contra, of an administration that had truly bad shit going on with the head honcho purposefully left out of the loop to afford him plausible deniability.

91 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:32:20pm

The FWST does journalism? What?

Ft. Worth Star-Telegram apologizes for Obamacare story

politico.com

“The Ft. Worth Star-Telegram’s executive editor apologized to readers this week for a story it published in November about the trouble people were having getting affordable insurance under the Affordable Care Act.

“In a column teased on Monday’s front page, Jim Witt said the reporter and editor of the story did not do their due diligence to discover the background of the people profiled in the story, some of whom turned out to have tea party connections and were actually able to obtain more affordable coverage through Obamacare.

“Knowing the background of the person quoted can give readers important clues about someone’s motives, but you didn’t learn that from reading our story, because we neglected to investigate the background of the people we quoted. That’s something you learn to do in Journalism 101. I remember my old professor saying, ‘If your mother says she loves you … check it out,’” Witt wrote. “

92 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:32:45pm

MRAP. Coming to a police department near you.

Since the military is now blowing off excess armored vehicles for as little as $2000 police departments are buying in. Makes some people nervous, why would a city way down the violent crime list need one? Answer-They actually don’t. It is pointed out that a special armored SWAT vehicle is $100,000 or more new. I gotta wonder why a special vehicle is needed at all. I see these armored vans and trucks that Brinks uses. Good enough for tens of millions in diamonds or gems, bit inadequate to a SWAT team?

So what if I was a big truck fan. as a civilian could I buy an MRAP truck with the turret? Heck of a storm chasing vehicle. But I think there is a law against re selling armored vehicles except for police. LAPD had a Bradley, used it a little with a big battering ram. It’s now kept in a police museum.

So what is a little town like Banning California going to do with an MRAP? Might be cheap to buy but expensive to run. And a little unnerving to those who would like police departments to equip like police, not the army. Any little accident in traffic would be far worse. At least for the poor guy that thing runs into or over.

93 b_sharp  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:33:04pm

re: #89 Kilroy01

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Needs to hold his breath til he turns green.

94 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:33:13pm
95 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:34:27pm

re: #78 ObserverArt

Mattand,

Do you think Kelly and others on the Christie staff actually did the bridge lane closures on their own? Earlier I had posted that I thought Christie is the kind of guy that either had it done or said okay to the idea if the staff did come up with the plan. I just can’t see a guy that flings around his power allowing a staffer to do it all without his knowledge.

Yeah, that’s a tough one.

Personally, I’m leaning towards Christie letting it be known that Fort Lee needed to be taught a lesson; verbally and not in writing. That way, even if someone tries to implicate Christie, he can go with the whole “I never explicitly said to punish the mayor and Fort Lee.”

That then moves on to Christie’s appointees, drunk on power and the hubris of the upcoming landslide victory, figuring they can do anything they fucking well please.

Funny how this stuff spirals out of control when your ego gets the best of you.

96 erik_t  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:35:09pm

re: #92 Political Atheist

MRAP. Coming to a police department near you.

Since the military is now blowing off excess armored vehicles for as little as $2000 police departments are buying in. Makes some people nervous, why would a city way down the violent crime list need one? Answer-They actually don’t. It is pointed out that a special armored SWAT vehicle is $100,000 or more new. I gotta wonder why a special vehicle is needed at all. I see these armored vans and trucks that Brinks uses. Good enough for tens of millions in diamonds or gems, bit inadequate to a SWAT team?

Well, you sure as hell can’t buy an armored van for $2000.

97 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:35:20pm

Who boy.

98 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:35:56pm

GWB lane closures delayed EMS response to 4 calls in Fort Lee
Wednesday January 8, 2014, 5:00 PM

FORT LEE - Emergency responders were delayed in attending to four medical situations - including one in which a 91-year-old woman lay unconscious - due to traffic gridlock caused by unannounced closures of access lanes to the George Washington Bridge, according to the head of the borough’s EMS department.

The woman later died, borough records show.

In at least two of those instances, response time doubled, noted EMS coordinator Paul Favia, who documented those cases in a Sept. 10 letter to Mayor Mark Sokolich, which The Record obtained…

99 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:36:24pm

re: #83 Mattand

The Fox News article about the GWB debacle is surprisingly… well, fair and balanced for the most part.

The comment section, however…

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If they really did President Obama on Mt. Rushmore, the wingnut meltdown would be absolutely the stuff of legend.

100 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:36:37pm

re: #96 erik_t

Okay so the only sensible argument is price. So why is the military selling them way too cheaply?

101 Aunty Entity Dragon  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:36:43pm

re: #71 Kilroy01

Youtube Video

102 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:37:04pm
103 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:37:28pm

Christie doesn’t have my vote
Youtube Video

104 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:37:41pm
105 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:38:11pm

re: #92 Political Atheist

Any little accident in traffic would be far worse.

And it looks like one of those little accidents was how the city found out its police chief bought the thing.

“I don’t think the city needs it and I don’t like the way it was acquired,” Council Member Don Peterson, who learned of the acquisition after the Sept. 16 crash in Arizona, said in a phone interview Dec. 17.

[….]

The Banning police MRAP sustained a tire blowout and crashed into a pickup on Interstate 10 west of Phoenix, which has resulted in a claim of more than $42,000 against the City of Banning.

[…]

106 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:38:21pm

I know I live in an alternate reality, but isn’t the captain of the ship responsible for all that happens on that ship?

107 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:38:42pm

re: #86 Flying Squirrel Girl

One of the reasons I don’t live in Costa Rica anymore.

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awwww. little babies

108 erik_t  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:39:27pm

re: #100 Political Atheist

Okay so the only sensible argument is price. So why is the military selling them way too cheaply?

1) You will kindly note I did not say that. However, it is an entirely sufficient argument.
2) It’s not worth the time and bureaucratic headache to determine how much they are worth, between this newish one here and that dinged up one over there, the military doesn’t want the damned things anyway, people cost money, and they just want the fucking things gone. I’m half surprised they aren’t selling them for a cent apiece.

109 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:39:41pm
110 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:40:55pm
111 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:41:01pm

re: #95 Mattand

Yeah, that’s a tough one.

Personally, I’m leaning towards Christie letting it be known that Fort Lee needed to be taught a lesson; verbally and not in writing. That way, even if someone tries to implicate Christie, he can go with the whole “I never explicitly said to punish the mayor and Fort Lee.”

That then moves on to Christie’s appointees, drunk on power and the hubris of the upcoming landslide victory, figuring they can do anything they fucking well please.

Funny how this stuff spirals out of control when your ego gets the best of you.

Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?

112 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:41:28pm

re: #98 Gus

GWB lane closures delayed EMS response to 4 calls in Fort Lee
Wednesday January 8, 2014, 5:00 PM

Dead serious here: Wildstein, Samson, Kelly, and anyone else involved in this need to be facing manslaughter charges.

Un-fucking-real.

113 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:41:34pm

re: #104 Kragar

The rats are leaving the ship. Film at eleven.

114 ObserverArt  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:41:34pm

So Ed has a guy on that says what I’ve been hinting…it is hard to believe that anything happens without Christie knowing about it.

And while that was going on, an email response from an Ed Show viewer said “you know something is up when a guy who likes to talk and talk releases a written statement.”

Ha. This is going to be fun.

115 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:42:06pm

re: #112 Mattand

Dead serious here: Wildstein, Samson, Kelly, and anyone else involved in this need to be facing manslaughter charges.

Un-fucking-real.

Looking forward to the civil wrongful death lawsuit.

116 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:42:42pm

re: #108 erik_t

Fair enough. Do you see another good reason to have them?

I think it’s a bad idea with a very poor rationale. Short term thinking. By both the military and the police. They should be mothballed until needed or scrapped. or if sold, how about to the national guard? Or an allied military?

Once they have the thing they will turn logical pretzels until they can use the thing. it’s just how people are.

117 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:42:53pm
118 Aunty Entity Dragon  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:43:00pm

re: #92 Political Atheist

So what is a little town like Banning California going to do with an MRAP?

Banning???! Fucking Banning has an MRAP??

My dad used to be a corrections officer at at the Riverside county minimum security prison in banning. He told me Banning PD used to rough up prisoners en route and try to get them to resist in order to justify use of force incidents where they could do a beat down on the guys. The corrections officers would then have to deal with a beat up and very angry inmate who may need medical attention before being processed in. They were not particularly amused.

Great folks there…

119 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:43:21pm

120 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:44:29pm

re: #112 Mattand

Dead serious here: Wildstein, Samson, Kelly, and anyone else involved in this need to be facing manslaughter charges.

Un-fucking-real.

121 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:44:54pm
122 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:45:09pm

re: #117 Gus

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FAKE!!! All those ears are photoshopped on!

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123 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:46:14pm

I’ve been up and down from my office chair a lot the last few hours.

Let me see if I got this right. NJ played dick games with lane closures and it was a very bad thing. Christie isn’t take responsibility for what happened.

Is that right?

124 Kilroy01  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:46:40pm

The real reason for the road closure.

125 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:47:30pm
126 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:48:28pm

Anyone care to speculate when Princess Dumbass of the North Woods will weigh in with her $0.02? Or does she only pontificate on culture war bullshit these days?

127 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:48:46pm

dogs say they must be fed.

bbl

128 Mattand  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:50:07pm

re: #123 FemNaziBitch

I’ve been up and down from my office chair a lot the last few hours.

Let me see if I got this right. NJ played dick games with lane closures and it was a very bad thing. Christie isn’t take responsibility for what happened.

Is that right?

More or less.

Gus just posted a link that indicates at least 4 people who needed EMS care had their wait times doubled. That includes a 91 year old woman who lated died.

Words cannot express how upset I am that the governor of my state is involved in this horseshit. I’m upset and embarrassed beyond belief.

129 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:50:08pm
130 dog philosopher  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:50:10pm

re: #124 Kilroy01

The real reason for the road closure.

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no fair making me laugh out loud at work

131 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:50:30pm

re: #126 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Anyone care to speculate when Princess Dumbass of the North Woods will weigh in with her $0.02? Or does she only pontificate on culture war bullshit these days?

She’s too busy polishing Roger Ailes’ knob at the moment.

132 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:50:42pm
133 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:52:56pm

re: #18 Dr. Matt

I can think of better things to waste a few bucks on….
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Price: $4.95

So everything makes me think of a song.

Youtube Video

134 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:53:19pm

re: #131 Justanotherhuman

Think I’m kidding?

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“Fox’s Roger Ailes says he hired me “to piss off the people that wanted her dead.” Hmmm. Funny. I accepted for the same reason!”

135 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:53:44pm

re: #127 FemNaziBitch

dogs say they must be fed.

bbl

Don’t trust ‘em. They lie.

Our male Greyhound acts like he’s being starved, but in fact he will leave his own dish when it’s half full to check out whether the other two dogs are finished, or maybe got something better.

Then he spends the next hour poking at anything within the reach of his nose - which is A LOT - to see if it has food in it.

It’s like eating doesn’t so satisfy him so much as it reminds him of the existence of food.

136 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:54:16pm
137 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:54:17pm

re: #131 Justanotherhuman

She’s too busy polishing Roger Ailes’ knob at the moment.

E-e-ew!

138 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:54:54pm

Add Pat Robertson to the list (I know he was already there). The Ed Show just had a clip of him saying that scientists found temps rising on Jupiter or one of its moons due to the sun so that’s why temps are rising here, it’s just the sun.

139 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:55:47pm


Idiot.

140 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:55:59pm

re: #138 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Add Pat Robertson to the list (I know he was already there). The Ed Show just had a clip of him saying that scientists found temps rising on Jupiter or one of its moons due to the sun so that’s why temps are rising here, it’s just the sun.

Because it couldn’t be a combination of multiple factors working in concert.

141 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:56:32pm

re: #138 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Add Pat Robertson to the list (I know he was already there). The Ed Show just had a clip of him saying that scientists found temps rising on Jupiter or one of its moons due to the sun so that’s why temps are rising here, it’s just the sun.

Confirmation bias is so strong on the Right that “Is Not!” is considered a cogent argument.

142 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:56:44pm

re: #138 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Add Pat Robertson to the list (I know he was already there). The Ed Show just had a clip of him saying that scientists found temps rising on Jupiter or one of its moons due to the sun so that’s why temps are rising here, it’s just the sun.

He didn’t mention that Jupiter is a gas planet, did he?

143 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:56:57pm

re: #126 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Anyone care to speculate when Princess Dumbass of the North Woods will weigh in with her $0.02? Or does she only pontificate on culture war bullshit these days?

I think Caribou Barbie will keep her yap shut on this as she has a few scandles of her own that she probably doesn’t want brough back up.

Scandal: Palin ‘Troopergate’

Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska and John McCain’s vice presidential running mate, has been embroiled in a controversy — dubbed ‘Troopergate’ — over the ouster of Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan.

Gov. Palin, her family and aides allegedly pressured Monegan to fire state trooper Mike Wooten, who went through a rancorous divorce and child-custody battle with Palin’s younger sister in 2005. Monegan refused and was abruptly fired on July 11.

144 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:57:01pm

The original ass.

145 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:57:28pm

re: #142 Justanotherhuman

He didn’t mention that Jupiter is a gas planet, did he?

He’s not smart enough to know that.

146 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 2:58:14pm

Good times.

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147 blueraven  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:00:13pm

Quote of the day

“I was offended by [Obama’s] suspicion that any of us would ever write about such sensitive matters,” - Robert Gates, in his tell-all book, Duty: Memoirs of a Secretary at War.

h/t - sully

148 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:01:03pm

re: #147 blueraven

Quote of the day

h/t - sully

Huh. Well, okay then.

149 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:01:11pm

re: #147 blueraven

Quote of the day

h/t - sully

Lolwut?

150 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:02:04pm
151 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:02:51pm

re: #149 Justanotherhuman

Lolwut?

Gates is weird.

152 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:04:38pm
153 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:05:54pm

Don’t Let Congress Meddle in Key Nutrition Program for Women and Kids

WIC is a national nutrition program designed to support the nutrition and health of low-income mothers and young children. In the 40 years since the WIC program began, Congress has never interfered with selecting which foods the program should provide. Instead, Congress has delegated the determination of WIC foods to experts in nutrition science and medicine.

But without your help, that could change. Potato industry lobbyists are urging Congress to circumvent the scientific review process and add language to the Farm Bill or Agriculture spending bill that would weaken the WIC food packages by requiring the inclusion of white potatoes.

[…]

Potatoes have the same glycemic impact as white sugar.

154 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:06:43pm
155 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:11:09pm

Career slump, John?

156 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:11:27pm


Youtube Video

157 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:13:31pm

re: #69 Mattand

Lawhawk hit that earlier. Christie’s one of the “loyal to a fault” types.

Personally, I want to see Bridget Anne Kelly, author of the “Time for some traffic” comment arrested. Yesterday.

Loyal to a fault and then some. He didn’t so much as give a slap on the wrist to anyone at NJ Transit responsible for the Sandy flooding fiasco that left the rail fleet in shambles for weeks (though he did attempt to tie it all on a lower tier employee who he then claimed was protected by civil service - even though he wasn’t).

Christie let both Wildstein and Baroni to resign/retire, rather than fire them.

Kelly ought to be brought up on charges along with Wildstein. And the families of those whose emergency response was delayed, and with one of the women dying thereafter, may also have a cause of action against them, though I’m sure the Port Authority and them individually will claim that they have immunity from those kinds of suits.

158 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:14:13pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

Don’t Let Congress Meddle in Key Nutrition Program for Women and Kids

Potatoes have the same glycemic impact as white sugar.

Glycemic impact aside, the problem poor people have in this country with poor nutrition is NOT getting sufficient calories, it’s getting everything else. This is why we have malnourished, but overweight poor people, because calories are now so cheap.

This, BTW, is an argument that the Right makes - “America’s poor people aren’t REALLY poor! Look how fat they are!”, ignoring the effect of a diet with too many calories but not enough nutrition.

159 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:16:42pm

Evening Lizardim from the wild north country. We may soon be getting a mild thaw; Minnesota drivers are probably salivating at the opportunity to finally rinse their cars clean from the taint of the road salt in which they have been encased for weeks, emerging from their chrysalis as beautiful roadworthy butterflies. How go things among the lizardfolk this cloudless cold evening?

160 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:18:04pm

re: #146 Gus

Good times.

D’aww. Did I miss the troll?

161 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:18:21pm

Texas man selling restaurant to save uninsured employee suffering from a brain tumor

Brittany Mathis, 19, told KHOU that she discovered a rash on her leg and the hospital determined that it was blood clotting.

“So, they wanted to keep me and do CAT scans and MRIs and the next day they came in and told me I had a tumor,” she recalled.

Brittany and her mother, Barbara, are both waitresses at Kaiserhof Restaurant in Montgomery. Neither of them have insurance, and the medical bills have been mounting over the past months.

So, restaurant owner Michael De Beyer is hoping that someone will buy his restaurant in time for him to help the 19-year-old girl.

“I just can’t be standing by and doing nothing,” De Beyer said. “I have to try something because it’s not right.”

“Here’s a family, they really work hard they have a lot of stuff against them in the past and they are not holding their hand open they didn’t even ask anybody for help.”

162 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:18:34pm

re: #159 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the wild north country. We may soon be getting a mild thaw; Minnesota drivers are probably salivating at the opportunity to finally rinse their cars clean from the taint of the road salt in which they have been encased for weeks, emerging from their chrysalis as beautiful roadworthy butterflies. How go things among the lizardfolk this cloudless cold evening?

Reminds me of when I moved from Ithaca to the Bay Area. I had a 14 year old MGB. In Ithaca, everyone was amazed by how well-preserved it was. In the Bay Area, everyone say, “Jesus! What a rusted out piece of shit!!!”

163 Gus  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:18:40pm

re: #160 thedopefishlives

D’aww. Did I miss the troll?

Was a while back.

164 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:18:53pm

Nitwit alert:


Yeah, Governor of one of the most populous states whose top officials engaged in a political vendetta that shut down lanes to the busiest bridge in the nation paralyzing Fort Lee (where the bridge tolls are located in the NJ side) for days. Just like a has-been US Senator and one-time GOP candidate for President.

It’s not the polling.

It’s his, and his staff’s, actions that led to a major public safety emergency in Fort Lee all for a political vendetta.

Loyal to a fault in defending his people, but that loyalty is a liability when those staffers go “rogue” as Christie is calling it.

165 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:20:00pm

re: #161 Kragar

Bless that man’s heart. That’s an awful hand to be dealt at 19.

166 Aunty Entity Dragon  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:20:02pm

re: #156 Lidane

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Yeah, I get the joke…but bear with me here.

Chris Christie is still being touted as the GOP’s best hope against Hillary.

Anybody here…now…think that we can afford to have anybody like him within a thousand miles of any sort of authority of the NSA?

If the answer is “no!”….then that means that the NSA needs changes to protect all of us from executive institutional abuse…because sooner or later…a bully and crook will get elected and have that power, and we didn’t even know what that entailed until Snowden came along.

167 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:20:15pm

re: #159 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the wild north country. We may soon be getting a mild thaw; Minnesota drivers are probably salivating at the opportunity to finally rinse their cars clean from the taint of the road salt in which they have been encased for weeks, emerging from their chrysalis as beautiful roadworthy butterflies. How go things among the lizardfolk this cloudless cold evening?

NW Pennsylvania, warmed up nicely today. Is about 19F right now, not much wind.

168 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:20:41pm

re: #162 GeneJockey

Reminds me of when I moved form Ithaca to the Bay Area. I had a 14 year old MGB. In Ithaca, everyone was amazed by how well-preserved it was. In the Bay Area, everyone say, “Jesus! What a rusted out piece of shit!!!”

The advent of plastic cars was a godsend for Minnesotans. Prior to aluminum underbody shields and plastic body panels, the typical Minnesota car wouldn’t last a decade before collapsing due to rust. Very few collector’s cars up here that actually originated here.

169 Aunty Entity Dragon  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:21:11pm

re: #161 Kragar

Texas man selling restaurant to save uninsured employee suffering from a brain tumor

Obviously a 47% moocher and she hates Jesus, or she wouldn’t have cancer at 19.

170 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:21:32pm

re: #161 Kragar

Texas man selling restaurant to save uninsured employee suffering from a brain tumor

Beautiful story. Two observations:

1. This is why we need universal coverage.

2. The Right will say this is why we DON’T need universal coverage, because charity will handle it.

171 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:23:17pm

re: #164 lawhawk

Yeah, no story there. Its all about Hillary Clinton.

172 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:24:15pm

re: #158 GeneJockey

Glycemic impact aside, the problem poor people have in this country with poor nutrition is NOT getting sufficient calories, it’s getting everything else. This is why we have malnourished, but overweight poor people, because calories are now so cheap.

This, BTW, is an argument that the Right makes - “America’s poor people aren’t REALLY poor! Look how fat they are!”, ignoring the effect of a diet with too many calories but not enough nutrition.

Exactly. And not enough access or information to produce and lean meat products. Aside from the fact that many also frequent fast food joints for quick meals while working (and never buy the salads anyway). Lots of fats and sugar in poor people diets. You get used to a certain taste and mouth feel, and don’t change. Not only that, but dense calories with little fiber lead to digestive and colon problems.

173 Aunty Entity Dragon  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:25:10pm

re: #170 GeneJockey

Beautiful story. Two observations:

1. This is why we need universal coverage.

2. The Right will say this is why we DON’T need universal coverage, because charity will handle it.

Because everybody is willing and able to sell their own livlihood to save an employee…

Funny how Texas has the lion’s share of uninsured people who would have qualified for medicaid.

174 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:25:40pm
175 Aunty Entity Dragon  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:26:00pm

re: #171 Kragar

Yeah, no story there. Its all about Hillary Clinton.

That guy really, really has a stiffy for anything about Hillary.

176 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:26:16pm

re: #159 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the wild north country. We may soon be getting a mild thaw; Minnesota drivers are probably salivating at the opportunity to finally rinse their cars clean from the taint of the road salt in which they have been encased for weeks, emerging from their chrysalis as beautiful roadworthy butterflies. How go things among the lizardfolk this cloudless cold evening?

Well we got some snow here in southern Idaho this morning and the temp at this time is 39F and starting to drop. The roads are all wet from the melting snow and we are expecting about 1 to 3 inches in the morning.

Glad I don’t have to go out tomorrow as we will have black ice by midnight that will then be covered by snow. Not the best driving conditions if I may say so.

177 jaunte  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:27:49pm
178 Aunty Entity Dragon  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:28:43pm

Off to get pizza and then watch hardball. We’ve been catching up on old episodes of American Horror Story on Netflix. seriously twisted….

See you tomorrow “)

179 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:29:13pm
180 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:29:38pm
181 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:30:05pm

re: #173 Aunty Entity Dragon

Because everybody is willing and able to sell their own livlihood to save an employee…

Funny how Texas has the lion’s share of uninsured people who would have qualified for medicaid.

Well, they wouldn’t want them to be dependent on Government. They should just die, instead.

182 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:30:53pm

re: #175 Aunty Entity Dragon

That’s kinda disturbing when you sit and think about it.

183 Kid A  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:31:38pm

Great. Christie just got “gated.”
#Bridgegate

184 jaunte  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:32:05pm
185 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:32:06pm

re: #178 Aunty Entity Dragon

Off to get pizza and then watch hardball. We’ve been catching up on old episodes of American Horror Story on Netflix. seriously twisted….

See you tomorrow “)

I have a theory on that show. The first season was twisted so they decided to see how far they could go in the second season (even more twisted) this current season is pushing it even further. I. Love. It.

186 Kid A  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:32:46pm
187 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:33:41pm

re: #183 Kid A

Great. Christie just got “gated.”
#Bridgegate

I like #Blunderroad better. Adds a bit of Springsteen.

188 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:34:21pm

Christie’s excuse makes him look incompetent. You’re in charge of an entire state and yet you aren’t even paying attention to what those employees CLOSEST to you are doing?

Fail.

189 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:34:34pm
190 Kid A  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:35:00pm

First “The Sopranos” reference to Christie in 3…2…1.

191 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:35:14pm

re: #186 Kid A

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Hmmmm. Good point. So much - possibly ALL - of modern Conservatism is built around “pissing off/scaring Liberals/Democrats” that a bunch of (mostly) Democrats pissed off at sitting in traffic because their mayor didn’t toe the line might just get them to like him.

192 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:35:18pm

re: #190 Kid A

I nearly made one earlier.

193 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:35:51pm

re: #189 Kragar

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Now he’s stopped even TRYING to make sense.

194 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:36:08pm

Already seen on my FB: “OMG! Chris Christie is my freaking hero!!”

195 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:36:22pm

I swear, I’m going to get this guy to pop a blood vessel.

196 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:36:22pm

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, he seems to be stuck in a lose-lose situation here. If he disavows all knowledge, he looks incompetent; if he admits he knew about it, he torpedoes any plausible deniability and opens himself to liability.

197 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:37:06pm

re: #195 Kragar

I swear, I’m going to get this guy to pop a blood vessel.

Thereby measurably increasing the average global intelligence.

198 GeneJockey  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:37:19pm

re: #195 Kragar

I swear, I’m going to get this guy to pop a blood vessel.

When he starts typing actual gibberish and/or talking about smelling toast, you can stop.

199 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:39:13pm

Bad morning.

Youtube Video

200 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:39:52pm

re: #196 thedopefishlives

Yeah, he seems to be stuck in a lose-lose situation here. If he disavows all knowledge, he looks incompetent; if he admits he knew about it, he torpedoes any plausible deniability and opens himself to liability.

Indeed. I know that when I cast my vote, a candidate having acted with malice and/or having a record of hiring thugs and not having them on a short leash are real positives. ////

201 Kragar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:39:52pm
202 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:40:25pm

203 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:41:30pm

re: #202 darthstar

The cuteness, that pic has it.

204 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:43:07pm

Fox News site is no fun without comments.

205 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:43:54pm

so here’s a bit of genius for ya. Prior to christmas my brother in law caught a jumping spider and my nephews had it in a bag with some air holes and bugs and they brought it over to my place. I went to the store, bought a critter cage and some sand, water dish and some baby crickets.

They kept the spider alive and it was doing well in its new home. Then my brother in law caught a black widow and decided to put it in with the jumping spider. Now they have a critter cage and 2 dead spiders.

206 Kid A  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:44:02pm

re: #192 Eclectic Cyborg

I nearly made one earlier.

207 darthstar  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:48:14pm
208 Lidane  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:50:49pm

re: #179 darthstar

“Chris Christie can’t be responsible for what his subordinates do.”

By that logic, neither is Obama.

209 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:54:02pm

re: #91 Justanotherhuman

Too late. Damage done. They weren’t the only ones either.

210 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:05:35pm

re: #142 Justanotherhuman

He didn’t mention that Jupiter is a gas planet, did he?

Being gaseous himself Robertson should know that.


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