The Lawlessness of the Ferguson Police Department - Some Officers Still Not Wearing Name Tags

Still not complying with either Department regulations or DOJ demands
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Two DOJ letters weren’t enough.

FPD regulations aren’t enough.

The FPD keeps flouting their own rules and regulations, let alone the DOJ letters requiring that all officers comply with Department rules and common sense, and have IDs showing at all time on duty. The fact that they’re not displaying their names shows that they do not want their identities easily known and that they may think that they can act with impunity against a community still angry that the officer who shot and killed an unarmed man, Michael Brown has not been indicted, let alone arrested and charged in that killing.

The Department has repeatedly shown a disregard for the law, including what information was released in relation to the shooting, how the investigation was being handled, and even the identity of the officer involved, his injuries, and other factual evidence that was gathered at the scene.

This is not only reckless disregard for the law, but shows just how lawless this organization is. Ferguson deserves better, and that includes everyone from the mayor to the city council (which includes a former who-should-be-disgraced FPD officer who was involved in another excessive force incident), to the police chief and the officers of the Department itself.

Note too that the Department of Justice issued one of the letters in response to officers wearing bracelets stating “I am Darren Wilson,” which is precisely the wrong message you want to send to the community grieving over the death of Brown, and where eyewitness accounts essentially concur that Wilson not only used excessive force, but engaged in an extrajudicial killing of Brown. They are, in effect, saying that they would do the same thing — and implying that Wilson did nothing wrong.

If you scratch deeper, you’d probably find the same problems with other Greater St. Louis area police departments, including the county police.

A house cleaning will not be sufficient. The rot and stink is too far entrenched for a hodgepodge firing of a couple of officials.

And that also means that Ferguson residents (and those elsewhere in the STL area) have to vote - and vote in every election to see all these folks gone. Antonio French has a big job ahead of him, but he can’t do the lifting alone. It takes time, a GOTV effort, and sustained efforts beyond just this election cycle.

UPDATE at 9/29/14 10:54:32 am by Charles Johnson

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303 comments
1 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 10:46:07am

The FPD are not Law Enforcement. They are thugs with badges collecting revenue for the city

2 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 29, 2014 10:47:32am

I used to think it was just the proliferation of police that led to a handful of bad policeman undoing the word of the majority of dedicated, conscientious ones, but we are seeing that the rot goes all the way to the top and beyond.

3 lawhawk  Sep 29, 2014 10:49:25am

Related:

4 Schadenboner  Sep 29, 2014 10:50:20am

re: #1 Kragar

The FPD are not Law Enforcement. They are thugs with badges collecting revenue for the city

FTFY. RTFA. OMGWTFBBQ.

5 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 10:51:40am

Hey Charles, Wonkette linked to your National Review Story

6 Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2014 10:52:52am
7 b.d.  Sep 29, 2014 10:52:57am

That police department needs to be disbanded.

8 Varek Raith  Sep 29, 2014 10:53:33am

re: #7 b.d.

That police department needs to be disbanded.

It really does.
This is beyond the pale.

9 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 10:54:25am

Shit is getting ridiculous.

10 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2014 10:54:57am

re: #5 Kragar

Hey Charles, Wonkette linked to your National Review Story

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I’ve been wondering when somebody on the Right would finally go there. It’s the obvious corollary of ‘Abortion is Murder!’. I think most antiabortion types simply don’t let their thoughts go there. Certainly they stop shy of letting their rhetoric got here, knowing they’d lose a whole bunch of support instantly.

11 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 10:55:23am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Officer “Large and in charge”

12 Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2014 10:56:09am

re: #11 Kragar

Officer “Large and in charge”

Officer “Dunkin’ Donuts Customer of The Year”, more likely.

13 b.d.  Sep 29, 2014 10:56:32am

Some police departments have trading cards that they give to kids
myfoxphilly.com
that have every officer and even the K9s.

The Ferguson police officers won’t even wear a name tag while on duty.

14 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 10:56:39am

If I see a police officer not wearing a name badge, my first assumption will (quite correctly) be that the person is not a real law enforcement officer.
Anyone, anyone, can buy a uniform and a badge and all the variety of cop equipment. It doesn’t mean you are a real cop, any more than having a flashing light on your vehicle means I’m going to stop in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere. Learned the lesson many years ago from Cincinnati PD advice (during a time when a fake cop was pulling people over on I-75 and elsewhere) that one should turn on their own taillight flashers and drive directly to the nearest PD station or, absent that, to a well-lit populated area where there are witnesses.

15 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 10:57:27am

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

If I see a police officer not wearing a name badge, my first assumption will (quite correctly) be that the person is not a real law enforcement officer.
Anyone, anyone, can buy a uniform and a badge and all the variety of cop equipment. It doesn’t mean you are a real cop, any more than having a flashing light on your vehicle means I’m going to stop in them middle of the night in the middle of nowhere. Learned the lesson many years ago from Cincinnati PD advice (during a time when a fake cop was pulling people over on I-75 and elsewhere) that one should turn on their own taillight flashers and drive directly to the nearest PD station or, absent that, to a well-lit populated area where there are witnesses.

This is a great point. And frankly by doing this the Ferguson PD is only going to create more mistrust in their department.

16 Lidane  Sep 29, 2014 10:57:48am

re: #7 b.d.

That police department needs to be disbanded.

Yep. The rot in the Ferguson PD goes from the top down.

As soon as officers were photographed with “I AM DARREN WILSON” armbands, that was the final nail in the coffin. There is no coming back from things once the cops are that far polarized from the people they’re supposed to protect.

17 Eventual Carrion  Sep 29, 2014 10:57:52am

I almost expect to see pics of Porky walking out of a police station room laughing with the officers and back slapping. This has become such a farce.

18 lawhawk  Sep 29, 2014 10:58:01am

“Justice, and only justice, you shall pursue…” The Mrs. and I both try to live by that mantra, which is totally applicable here.

Exposing the injustices of the FPD and other law enforcement agencies is central to the mission of justice. We need an effective law enforcement system that is color-blind and holds people equally accountable. That means that if law enforcement does something wrong, that those involved are held accountable.

It also means holding the political class responsible for allowing the situation to become what it has become in places like Ferguson - where the police don’t see the residents as the people they’re supposed to be protecting, but as prey for which they can bully (or worse) and get away with it.

It’s why I keep writing about this here - and thanks Charles for the multiple promotions on these postings. The people in Ferguson must hold the department and the city political leaders accountable. And they need help to make that happen. That means getting public attention on what’s really going on there - and keeping people involved.

19 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 29, 2014 10:58:03am

re: #10 GeneJockey

I’ve been wondering when somebody on the Right would finally go there. It’s the obvious corollary of ‘Abortion is Murder!’. I think most antiabortion types simply don’t let their thoughts go there. Certainly they stop shy of letting their rhetoric got here, knowing they’d lose a whole bunch of support instantly.

And the problem is that was my “Look at the hypocrisy of your position, how do you answer the logical extension of an ‘Abortion is Murder stance’? Now they are embracing it.

RBS

20 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 10:58:18am

How is it going now?

It’s sunny and warm by me.

21 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 10:58:20am

re: #7 b.d.

That police department needs to be disbanded.

Needs to be more than that. From the sounds of it, the rot goes all the way to city hall, if not the governor’s mansion. Disbanding the police force will simply allow the cops to migrate to other forces, or join the replacement force that is created to replace the old one. And you can bet that any move by the Feds to handle this force will be hotly contested by everybody from the FOP to the US Congress.

22 Eventual Carrion  Sep 29, 2014 10:59:22am

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

Officer “Dunkin’ Donuts Customer of The Year”, more likely.

Got his picture on the wall.

23 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2014 11:00:22am

re: #22 Eventual Carrion

Got his picture on the wall.

Well, PART of that is his vest. But only part.

24 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:00:53am

re: #19 RealityBasedSteve

And the problem is that was my “Look at the hypocrisy of your position, how do you answer the logical extension of an ‘Abortion is Murder stance’? Now they are embracing it.

RBS

If they truly cared:

Comprehensive Sex and Cost-Free Contraception.

They would want every child conceived by choice and every child wanted.

They would not equate sex with conception in the case of women, only.

25 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 29, 2014 11:01:30am

re: #23 GeneJockey

Well, PART of that is his vest. But only part.

yea… the jowls and the multiple chins is sort of a giveaway that he’s not a ‘Lean Mean Law Enforcing Machine”

RBS

26 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 11:02:36am

re: #24 FemNaziBitch

If they truly cared:

Comprehensive Sex and Cost-Free Contraception.

They would want every child conceived by choice and every child wanted.

They would not equate sex with conception in the case of women, only.

Any so called pro-lifer who doesn’t support expanded access to BC and real sex ed is nothing but a woman hating zealot

27 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 11:03:31am

re: #25 RealityBasedSteve

yea… the jowls and the multiple chins is sort of a giveaway that he’s not a ‘Lean Mean Law Enforcing Machine”

RBS

They ran out of barricades so they brought him out to block the street

28 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:04:00am

re: #26 Kragar

Any so called pro-lifer who doesn’t support expanded access to BC and real sex ed is nothing but a woman hating zealot

They are usually the ones who don’t want to look at their own behavior for what it really is.

Or they secretly wish to get caught —meaning a “love child”. Of course, it would be all about them, not the child.

29 Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2014 11:04:03am
30 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 29, 2014 11:04:09am

OT…this is breaking…I suggested this to my wife when Hannah Graham first disappeared.

31 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 11:06:18am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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Has Jim Hoft ever corrected a story blatantly misrepresenting the words and actions of POTUS? Really the guy and his readers feed on false outrage and lies. Hoft knows he’s a dishonest dipshit but he knows also his readers would read approvingly if he used a fake quote of Obama praising Osama Bin Laden.

32 BlueGrl21  Sep 29, 2014 11:06:19am

So, who has the power to do it? To disband them, to make them wear name tags, to force them to turn on their cameras, to reign them in. The voters? How far away is the next election?

Seems to me that they know that no one can do shit about it, or whoever can lacks the intestinal fortitude to move on them.

33 teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2014 11:06:42am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Not only does this prick need to find his name tag, he needs to spend time on a stairmaster, pudgy bastard.

34 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:07:31am

re: #32 BlueGrl21

So, who has the power to do it? To disband them, to make them wear name tags, to force them to turn on their cameras, to reign them in. The voters? How far away is the next election?

Seems to me that they know that no one can do shit about it, or whoever can lacks the intestinal fortitude to move on them.

hmmm, a police dept was disbanded in one township in Illinois a while back. I think the County government did it and the Sheriff took over.

Not sure how it worked, exacty.

35 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 11:08:29am

re: #34 FemNaziBitch

hmmm, a police dept was disbanded in one township in Illinois a while back. I think the County government did it and the Sheriff took over.

Not sure how it worked, exacty.

What’s of course frustrating here is the Stl. Louis County PD ain’t much better.

36 lawhawk  Sep 29, 2014 11:08:38am

re: #32 BlueGrl21

The DOJ can alternatively sue or enter into consent orders to disband the police force or get corrective actions in cleaning up the department. They can and do engage in oversight and would be an added layer of oversight that is clearly lacking with the city council and mayor.

Note too that one of the city council members is a former FPD officer who was herself implicated in an excessive force incident and is being sued for her role.

37 A Mom Anon  Sep 29, 2014 11:09:09am

So say I was told by the DOJ to comply with their wishes or told not do something. Like if I was being investigated for some criminal act and I continued to pretend that I was above the law. I get the distinct impression I’d be in jail for not doing what was asked of me in accordance to the law. Or am I missing something here? I can’t imagine I’d be allowed to continually thumb my nose at the US Attorney General and his office without some sort of action being taken. So why in the everloving fuck are these assholes allowed to?

38 KerFuFFler  Sep 29, 2014 11:09:55am

The Ferguson police department is also charging outlandish fees for processing requests for files and other information citizens and journalists are requesting. “In one case, it billed The Associated Press $135 an hour — for nearly a day’s work — merely to retrieve a handful of email accounts since the shooting. That fee compares with an entry-level, hourly salary of $13.90 in the city clerk’s office, and it didn’t include costs to review the emails or release them. The AP has not paid for the search.”

This is a tactic used to reduce the amount of material released by discouraging the petitioners. Palin’s administration in Alaska did the same thing when trying to stifle inquiries into corruption. It is an inherently corrupt practice.

39 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 11:10:00am

re: #30 NJDhockeyfan

OT…this is breaking…I suggested this to my wife when Hanna Graham first disappeared.

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The suspect attended Liberty University?
Things that make ya go hmmm.

40 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 11:10:15am

All this makes it important that Obama choose the right person to Attorney General. Really hoping he and his advisers make a great choice.

41 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 11:10:53am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

The suspect attended Liberty University?
Things that make ya go hmmm.

DOESN’T REPRESENT ALL CHRISTIANS- by the same people who want to blame all Muslims for ISIS.

42 Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2014 11:11:05am
43 Eventual Carrion  Sep 29, 2014 11:11:44am

re: #23 GeneJockey

Well, PART of that is his vest. But only part.

Yeah, I was going more by the jowls laying on the vest.

44 De Kolta Chair  Sep 29, 2014 11:12:01am

Car 54, there are you.

45 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 11:12:59am

re: #32 BlueGrl21

So, who has the power to do it? To disband them, to make them wear name tags, to force them to turn on their cameras, to reign them in. The voters? How far away is the next election?

Seems to me that they know that no one can do shit about it, or whoever can lacks the intestinal fortitude to move on them.

Several Ferguson PD officers (including Wilson) belonged to another St. Louis area PD that was disbanded for similar reasons.

46 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 11:14:47am

re: #32 BlueGrl21

Oh, and welcome hatchling!

47 Eventual Carrion  Sep 29, 2014 11:15:12am

re: #32 BlueGrl21

So, who has the power to do it? To disband them, to make them wear name tags, to force them to turn on their cameras, to reign them in. The voters? How far away is the next election?

Seems to me that they know that no one can do shit about it, or whoever can lacks the intestinal fortitude to move on them.

I would think ultimately, the governor.

48 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 11:16:07am

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

Several Ferguson PD officers (including Wilson) belonged to another St. Louis area PD that was disbanded for similar reasons.

Which is why I doubt, if this force is disbanded, that it will prevent cops on the force from simply moving to greener pastures. I don’t believe the DOJ could take steps to keep them from simply getting hired on with another police force. Not without stepping all over the Fraternal Order of Police’s toes.

49 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:16:48am

I’ve notcied that we’ve had a few hatchlings in the past week or so.

I’ve also noticed that there are old shells on the floor and

MY COFFEE CUP IS EMPTY!!!

50 teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2014 11:17:18am

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

If I see a police officer not wearing a name badge, my first assumption will (quite correctly) be that the person is not a real law enforcement officer.
Anyone, anyone, can buy a uniform and a badge and all the variety of cop equipment. It doesn’t mean you are a real cop, any more than having a flashing light on your vehicle means I’m going to stop in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere. Learned the lesson many years ago from Cincinnati PD advice (during a time when a fake cop was pulling people over on I-75 and elsewhere) that one should turn on their own taillight flashers and drive directly to the nearest PD station or, absent that, to a well-lit populated area where there are witnesses.

51 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:17:21am

re: #48 Targetpractice

Which is why I doubt, if this force is disbanded, that it will prevent cops on the force from simply moving to greener pastures. I don’t believe the DOJ could take steps to keep them from simply getting hired on with another police force. Not without stepping all over the Fraternal Order of Police’s toes.

You would think their past performance would do it.

52 Lidane  Sep 29, 2014 11:17:58am

re: #40 HappyWarrior

All this makes it important that Obama choose the right person to Attorney General. Really hoping he and his advisers make a great choice.

OBUMMER CAN’T CHOOSE A NEW AG UNTIL WE SAY HE CAN!

IF HE TRIES BEFORE TEH ELEKSHUN ITZ ILLEGAL!

/GOP

53 b.d.  Sep 29, 2014 11:18:01am

re: #32 BlueGrl21

The city council and disband a police force as can a judge, not sure about who else.

54 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 11:18:25am
55 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:18:58am

re: #54 Kragar

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The State is to pick-up the cost.

I looked all this up before I went to NOLA this year.

56 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 11:19:32am

re: #54 Kragar

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But but family values.//

57 lawhawk  Sep 29, 2014 11:19:36am

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wilson was previously an officer for the Jennings police force. That town’s police department was disbanded after suffering from many of the same issues that are revealed by the media and exposed to light in the aftermath of the Brown shooting. Excessive force. Police brutality. Racial profiling. Excessive tensions between a predominantly white police force and a majority black community.

That’s where Wilson learned to police. It’s notable that he wasn’t among those officers that were rehired by Jennings in the reorganization. Instead, he landed in Ferguson.

58 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 11:19:37am

re: #49 FemNaziBitch

I’ve notcied that we’ve had a few hatchlings in the past week or so.

I’ve also noticed that there are old shells on the floor and

MY COFFEE CUP IS EMPTY!!!

59 teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2014 11:19:47am

I hope The Onion never goes out of business.

60 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 29, 2014 11:20:01am

WARNING: Click on the embedded subtweet at your own risk

61 Mattand  Sep 29, 2014 11:20:21am

I keep watching this stuff in Ferguson and wondering if my town’s PD would pull this stuff.

I hate saying that, but based on my own limited exposure to law enforcement, it just makes me want to give any officer as wide a berth as possible. I’m sure most of them are good cops, but I’ve had enough negative experiences to always have a bit of trepidation.

62 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 11:20:30am

re: #52 Lidane

OBUMMER CAN’T CHOOSE A NEW AG UNTIL WE SAY HE CAN!

IF HE TRIES BEFORE TEH ELEKSHUN ITZ ILLEGAL!

/GOP

Heh more seriously. I did see a rumor today that it could likely be a woman. Buzzfeed and I know I don’t take them seriously did mention Kamala Harris, current California state AG.

63 aagcobb  Sep 29, 2014 11:20:57am

Why do they need name tags? They are all Darren Wilson!//

64 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:22:44am

re: #54 Kragar

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What Bullshit!

Louisiana is one of only six states that look to local parishes and counties to pay for the exams, according to a report by AEquitas, an organization that provides training, information and technical help to prosecutors in sexual assault cases. Thirty-two other states pay through their state victim compensation funds.

The Louisiana administrative rule that mandates parishes governments pay also says that a forensic exam for a sexual assault victim is “considered an expense associated with the collection and securing of crime scene evidence.”

The federal Violence Against Women Act dictates that a victim’s access to free forensic exams should not be conditioned upon reporting to law enforcement. The law says forensic exams should include an examination of physical trauma, a determination of penetration or force, a patient interview and collection of evidence.

By that definition, costs for procedures that are a regular part of the SANE screening — pregnancy tests and HIV tests, among them — could be considered extra. And, in many cases throughout Louisiana and the United States, they are.

Under state law, hospitals in Louisiana are instructed to treat sexual assault victims who don’t want to report to police as “regular emergency room patients.”

65 Shiplord Kirel  Sep 29, 2014 11:22:57am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

The suspect attended Liberty University?
Things that make ya go hmmm.

Indeed. A couple of years ago, a Liberty student from Lubbock was shot dead after he assaulted a security guard who caught him in a women’s dorm after hours (beaucoup off-limits at Liberty).

66 wrenchwench  Sep 29, 2014 11:23:16am

re: #63 aagcobb

Why do they need name tags? They are all Darren Wilson!//

I’m sure the bracelet guy printed up a bunch of name tags too, in case anyone was stupid enough to go for that. Not much stupider than the bracelets were.

67 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 11:23:47am

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel

Indeed. A couple of years ago, a Liberty student from Lubbock was shot dead after he assaulted a security guard who caught him in a women’s dorm after hours (beaucoup off-limits at Liberty).

That school is such a pathetic joke. Another proud legacy of Jerry Falwell’s.

68 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:23:51am
69 Shiplord Kirel  Sep 29, 2014 11:24:46am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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No name but obviously related to Boss Hogg.

70 Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2014 11:25:45am
71 BlueGrl21  Sep 29, 2014 11:25:48am

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth Thank you. I will try not to make too much of an ass of myself as I’m learning all of these new buttons and content options. Good God.

The Ferguson police are out of control, we all know that. Putting pressure on them is not the solution because they don’t care. So, I want to know who I need to annoy until I see this police department taken apart. Looks like it’s DOJ, who will be loathe to step into a “local matter.”

I like to have an end goal in mind and figuring out exactly what needs to be done to get there. The protestors in Ferguson are on the ground but the rest of us can be supporting them by fighting whomever we need to.

72 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:26:17am

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel

Indeed. A couple of years ago, a Liberty student from Lubbock was shot dead after he assaulted a security guard who caught him in a women’s dorm after hours (beaucoup off-limits at Liberty).

It’s ok, if she gets pregnant, I’ll take responsibiilty

73 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 11:27:00am

re: #70 Charles Johnson

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Enjoying a nice Stoli or Smirnoff probably. But yes I do remember Snowden and Snowden’s supporters claiming Hong Kong was a free speech mecca.

74 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 29, 2014 11:29:16am

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

If I see a police officer not wearing a name badge, my first assumption will (quite correctly) be that the person is not a real law enforcement officer.
Anyone, anyone, can buy a uniform and a badge and all the variety of cop equipment. It doesn’t mean you are a real cop, any more than having a flashing light on your vehicle means I’m going to stop in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere. Learned the lesson many years ago from Cincinnati PD advice (during a time when a fake cop was pulling people over on I-75 and elsewhere) that one should turn on their own taillight flashers and drive directly to the nearest PD station or, absent that, to a well-lit populated area where there are witnesses.

Given the Ferguson example witnesses might not be enough.

75 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:29:57am
76 NJDhockeyfan  Sep 29, 2014 11:30:16am
77 teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2014 11:31:46am

re: #71 BlueGrl21

Thank you. I will try not to make too much of an ass of myself as I’m learning all of these new buttons and content options. Good God.

The Question Mark at the bottom of the comment field is helpful. Also, if you’re a twitterer, you can embed tweets in a comment by inserting the tweet URL, which can be found on the time stamp of any tweet.

Welcome, hatchling!

78 Lidane  Sep 29, 2014 11:33:01am

re: #76 NJDhockeyfan

UPDATE: Cat finds far more comfortable spot on laptop. Reporter ends workday at 2:27pm.

79 teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2014 11:33:20am

re: #75 FemNaziBitch

Ye Gods! This could get really really bad.

80 Bulworth  Sep 29, 2014 11:33:59am

re:
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America spying on China made them do it!!!!!1

81 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 29, 2014 11:33:59am

re: #71 BlueGrl21

t to know who I need to annoy until I see this police department taken apart. Looks like it’s DOJ, who will be loathe to step into a “local matter.”

We overlook one of the key rights put forth in the Constitution, the right to petition for the redress of grievances.

If police officers violate a person’s right while carrying out their duties anonymously, how is an aggrieved party able to find out who is behind it?

A basic violation of Constitutional rights is more than just a “local matter”

82 klys  Sep 29, 2014 11:36:05am

I finally heard back from my desired reference that he is willing to be one so I don’t have to delete the “reference available on request” section from my resume.

There is so much flailing here this week. I am not sure if I am more terrified of no responses to handing out my resume tomorrow or responses to handing out my resume tomorrow.

83 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 29, 2014 11:36:45am
84 b.d.  Sep 29, 2014 11:37:13am

DFW to Sydney now direct.
8,500 miles, 16 hours.

85 wrenchwench  Sep 29, 2014 11:40:12am

re: #83 Pie-onist Overlord

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I have a problem with that lower image being used.

86 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:40:32am

re: #84 b.d.

DFW to Sydney now direct.
8,500 miles, 16 hours.

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16 hours woudl (for me) require first class seating and lots of sedatives.

87 Shiplord Kirel  Sep 29, 2014 11:41:08am

Yikes! Liberty University has a School of Aeronautics.

Their slogan (for real): “Training Christ-Centered Aviators”

(I guess “God is my Co-pilot” is still under copyright, though its sequel “Christ is My Crew Chief” might be available.)

Watch the skies (for falling wreckage).

88 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:41:44am

have errands to run, bbl

89 klys  Sep 29, 2014 11:42:38am

re: #84 b.d.

DFW to Sydney now direct.
8,500 miles, 16 hours.

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I have done 14 hours direct from Newark to Tokyo.

At least after that, 11 hours seemed short.

90 teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2014 11:43:21am

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! Liberty University has a School of Aeronautics.

Their slogan (for real): “Training Christ-Centered Aviators”

(I guess “God is my Co-pilot” is still under copyright, though its sequel “Christ is My Crew Chief” might be available.)

Watch the skies (for falling wreckage).

This is quite disturbing.

91 De Kolta Chair  Sep 29, 2014 11:43:23am

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

92 FemNaziBitch  Sep 29, 2014 11:44:18am

Ok, one more,

bbl

93 Lidane  Sep 29, 2014 11:45:44am

re: #86 FemNaziBitch

16 hours woudl (for me) require first class seating and lots of sedatives.

With that kind of flight, first class is a given. I’d never, ever spend that much time on a plane in coach. Fuck that noise. Imma need leg room, a blanket and room to stretch.

No sedatives required, though. A couple of glasses of wine on a plane and I’m knocked out for hours. I’d have a couple of drinks then go to sleep.

94 BlueGrl21  Sep 29, 2014 11:46:39am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I agree it’s much more than a local matter. I just know why DOJ would be hesitant to get involved. They’re going to do everything they can NOT to get involved by giving state and local government time and space to step in.

At this point, the Ferguson PD are just trying to outlast everyone. High fees for public records, refusing to comply with basic police procedures, refusing to confront the problems within the department, refusing to do anything useful, really. Just waiting for everyone to get bored and tired and move onto something else more sensational, like George Clooney’s wedding.

95 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 11:47:36am

re: #94 BlueGrl21

I agree it’s much more than a local matter. I just know why DOJ would be hesitant to get involved. They’re going to do everything they can NOT to get involved by giving state and local government time and space to step in.

At this point, the Ferguson PD are just trying to outlast everyone. High fees for public records, refusing to comply with basic police procedures, refusing to confront the problems within the department, refusing to do anything useful, really. Just waiting for everyone to get bored and tired and move onto something else more sensational, like George Clooney’s wedding.

They can try to outlast everyone, but so far that ain’t working out so well for them.

96 klys  Sep 29, 2014 11:47:43am

re: #93 Lidane

With that kind of flight, first class is a given. I’d never, ever spend that much time on a plane in coach. Fuck that noise. Imma need leg room, a blanket and room to stretch.

No sedatives required, though. A couple of glasses of wine on a plane and I’m knocked out for hours. I’d have a couple of drinks then go to sleep.

We would like to do first class internationally at some point. Although at this point I would settle for business class for at least once.

That 14 hour flight to Tokyo this year was in Economy Plus. Neither of us fly enough to get upgrades gratis, and we didn’t really feel like tripling the cost of our tickets.

97 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 11:47:43am
98 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 29, 2014 11:48:21am

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! Liberty University has a School of Aeronautics.

Their slogan (for real): “Training Christ-Centered Aviators”

(I guess “God is my Co-pilot” is still under copyright, though its sequel “Christ is My Crew Chief” might be available.)

Watch the skies (for falling wreckage).

A different thought than that crossed my mind when I saw that slogan.
:-/

99 Lidane  Sep 29, 2014 11:49:35am

re: #97 Kragar

And I can honestly say I haven’t had a cup of coffee in about three hours.

Heh.

100 teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2014 11:50:14am

Paging James Randi…

101 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 11:50:50am

re: #97 Kragar

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I can only drink coffee with a heavy amount of sugar and cream. I tried a mug of straight black once…and spent the rest of the day simultaneously buzzed and nauseous.

102 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 29, 2014 11:51:32am

“I’ll show you my ID when you show me your nametag.”

***BANG BANG***

—-Business as usual—-

103 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 29, 2014 11:51:38am

Just remember folks, this “lovely lady” shares Kevin D. Williamson’s views on what should be done to people who commit abortions:

104 Shiplord Kirel  Sep 29, 2014 11:52:18am

re: #90 teleskiguy

This is quite disturbing.

For sure, but not as disturbing as this:

Liberty University Center for Creation Studies

Our purpose is to research, promote, and communicate a robust young-Earth creationist view of Earth history. Beginning with sound Biblical interpretation, we seek to understand how science can inform us about God’s magnificent creation.

Courses

History of Life: CRST 290
The primary educational activity of the Center for Creation Studies is the presentation of CRST 290, History of Life. This course is required of all Liberty students and is designed to provide a thorough understanding of the creation-evolution controversy. This study draws upon knowledge from religion, science, philosophy and history.

Emphasis added

105 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 11:53:15am
106 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 29, 2014 11:54:29am

re: #96 klys

We would like to do first class internationally at some point. Although at this point I would settle for business class for at least once.

That 14 hour flight to Tokyo this year was in Economy Plus. Neither of us fly enough to get upgrades gratis, and we didn’t really feel like tripling the cost of our tickets.

My son just flew from LA to Sydney, with a toddler and an infant.

107 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 29, 2014 11:54:34am

re: #104 Shiplord Kirel

For sure, but not as disturbing as this:

Liberty University Center for Creation Studies

Emphasis added

Easiest “A” in the university since the answer to every question is “God did it.”
///

108 teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2014 11:55:11am

re: #104 Shiplord Kirel

For sure, but not as disturbing as this:

Liberty University Center for Creation Studies

Emphasis added

And they pump out 12,000 undergraduates every year. I wonder what the founder of The University of Virginia would think of such a banal institution.

109 b.d.  Sep 29, 2014 11:55:26am

re: #86 FemNaziBitch

I would have to be really doped up too. Freshly loaded Kindle plus some long ass movies I haven’t seen in a while: Gone With The Wind, Lawrence of Arabia, Doctor Zhivago etc.

110 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 29, 2014 11:56:00am

re: #107 Feline Fearless Leader

Easiest “A” in the university since the answer to every question is “God did it.”
///

“What day in Genesis did God create the dinosaurs?”

“Could the Snake in Eden have been a T-Rex?”

111 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 11:56:39am

re: #105 Kragar

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During his 13-year career in the State Police, Rodella was disciplined for marijuana use, improper use of a weapon, falsifying official reports, abusing sick leave, and using his position for personal gain, before retiring on a disability pension.

Despite his background, Rodella was elected sheriff of Rio Arriba in 2010.

Gee, I think I see the problem.

112 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 29, 2014 11:57:22am

My Block/Mute button is getting a workout from the gun-fuckers.

113 wrenchwench  Sep 29, 2014 11:57:54am

re: #111 Targetpractice

Gee, I think I see the problem.

114 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 11:58:29am
115 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 11:58:43am

re: #105 Kragar

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Rodella is no stranger to controversy, having been investigated by the FBI for taking bribes, and ousted as a magistrate by the State Supreme Court for multiple infractions.

During his 13-year career in the State Police, Rodella was disciplined for marijuana use, improper use of a weapon, falsifying official reports, abusing sick leave, and using his position for personal gain, before retiring on a disability pension.

Despite his background, Rodella was elected sheriff of Rio Arriba in 2010.

Serving and protecting…he’s doing it wrong.

116 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 12:00:43pm
117 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 12:01:07pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

Serving and protecting…he’s doing it wrong.

In theory, democracy is a great system because the government represents the will of the people. In reality, the government represents those who can take time off or are willing to sit hours in line after work to vote on Election Day.

118 Lidane  Sep 29, 2014 12:04:00pm

re: #84 b.d.

DFW to Sydney now direct.
8,500 miles, 16 hours.

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My Aussie co-worker is happy about this. He’s from Brisbane, and up until now he’s had to overshoot entirely and fly from Austin to Melbourne or Adelaide before taking a flight to Brisbane. At least with a DFW to Sydney flight he’d still have to make a connection to fly home but he’d be on the right coast.

119 Bulworth  Sep 29, 2014 12:04:32pm

re:
#104

Our purpose is to research, promote , and communicate a robust young-Earth creationist view of Earth history.

Edited for accuracy.

120 Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2014 12:05:09pm

re: #96 klys

We would like to do first class internationally at some point. Although at this point I would settle for business class for at least once.

That 14 hour flight to Tokyo this year was in Economy Plus. Neither of us fly enough to get upgrades gratis, and we didn’t really feel like tripling the cost of our tickets.

The most awesome thing about having been married to a chief cabin attendant? Free first-class travel on SkyTeam airlines.

Frikkin’ sweet. Especially Air France.

121 Shiplord Kirel  Sep 29, 2014 12:06:43pm

Between corrupt and lawless cops, lying journalists, rampaging bigots, and mega-dollar temples of superstition, this country isn’t just going to hell in a hand basket. We’re there.

Common sense and decency aren’t just dead, they’ve been cremated and Jim Hoft is smoking the ashes in his Aqua Buddha bong.

122 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 29, 2014 12:08:02pm

re: #121 Shiplord Kirel

Between corrupt and lawless cops, lying journalists, rampaging bigots, and mega-dollar temples of superstition, this country isn’t just going to hell in a hand basket. We’re there.

Common sense and decency aren’t just dead, they’ve been cremated and Jim Hoft is smoking the ashes in his Aqua Buddha bong.

But remember that we’re exceptional!
//

123 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 12:09:30pm

re: #114 Kragar

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124 Lidane  Sep 29, 2014 12:10:22pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

LIES! It was cold outside today! That proves that climate change is a hoax.

Don’t you know that climate is just weather libtard?

125 Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2014 12:12:18pm

re: #121 Shiplord Kirel

Between corrupt and lawless cops, lying journalists, rampaging bigots, and mega-dollar temples of superstition, this country isn’t just going to hell in a hand basket. We’re there.

Common sense and decency aren’t just dead, they’ve been cremated and Jim Hoft is smoking the ashes in his Aqua Buddha bong.

re: #122 Feline Fearless Leader

But remember that we’re exceptional!
//

Buck up. Things are improving. Our town hasn’t had a proven lynching in at least 7 years.

On the other hand, my daughter’s megachurch has a no-shit Starbucks in the narthex.

126 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 29, 2014 12:12:28pm

re: #124 Lidane

LIES! It was cold outside today! That proves that climate change is a hoax.

Don’t you know that weather is just climate libtard?

People who can’t understand the basic difference between local short term fluctuations and long term trends are very popular in Las Vegas.

127 Lidane  Sep 29, 2014 12:13:44pm

re: #126 RealityBasedSteve

People who can’t understand the basic difference between local short term fluctuations and long term trends are very popular in Las Vegas.

Heh. Pretty much.

128 Shiplord Kirel  Sep 29, 2014 12:14:07pm

Truculent Turtle

This twin piston engine P2V Neptune flew non-stop from Perth, Western Australia to Columbus Ohio, 11,236 miles, in 1946. Flight time was 55 hours. The aircraft was stripped of all unnecessary equipment, fitted with extra fuel tanks in every possible space, and loaded to 33% above normal max gross weight. This distance record stood for all aircraft until 1962 and for piston engine aircraft until 1986 when Burt Rutan’s Voyager circumavigated the Earth non-stop and un-refueled.

129 Eventual Carrion  Sep 29, 2014 12:14:26pm

Cool

130 Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2014 12:14:28pm

OK, cool beans.

I just won an Orient automatic watch on a Czech auction website, and paid about $50 for it. It’s used, a few minor scratches, but nothing severe; it comes with the original box, from the original owner, and apparently it runs very well with no problems.

Here….automatic watches are very expensive. You can buy a Seiko5 in the US for less than $70 brand new, but here, they’re twice the price at a minimum.

So I reckon I got a good deal. I know wristwatches are perhaps going out of style back in the US, but not here in the Czech Republic. Everyone wears them, even the smartphone owners. :D

131 Ian G.  Sep 29, 2014 12:15:12pm

re: #126 RealityBasedSteve

People who can’t understand the basic difference between local short term fluctuations and long term trends are very popular in Las Vegas.

I’m stealing this going forward for whenever I hear some ignoramus babble about how it’s cold out in January, therefore climate change is a hoax.

132 Timothy Watson  Sep 29, 2014 12:15:41pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

The suspect attended Liberty University?
Things that make ya go hmmm.

The suspect was expelled, but not charged, in his third or fourth year there due to an accusation of rape.

133 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 29, 2014 12:17:11pm

re: #131 Ian G.

I’m stealing this going forward for whenever I hear some ignoramus babble about how it’s cold out in January, therefore climate change is a hoax.

With all I’ve stolen over the years, be my guest. :)

RBS

134 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 29, 2014 12:17:58pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

I could back that up with amazing images of my own from our reservoirs. All up above Azusa, behind Piru, Ojai, Santa Barbara. All very very low.

135 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 12:18:38pm

re: #132 Timothy Watson

The suspect was expelled, but not charged, in his third or fourth year there due to an accusation of rape.

The suspect was a football player, so it had to be something really bad…

136 Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2014 12:20:33pm
137 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 29, 2014 12:20:50pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Buck up. Things are improving. Our town hasn’t had a proven lynching in at least 7 years.

On the other hand, my daughter’s megachurch has a no-shit Starbucks in the narthex.

narthex. what a great word. had to look it up.

totally narthex, dude!!!

138 Snarknado!  Sep 29, 2014 12:22:31pm

OT — A troubling article about Amazon:

Part 1

Part 2

139 Ace-o-aces  Sep 29, 2014 12:23:24pm
140 BlueSpotinAL  Sep 29, 2014 12:24:57pm

re: #139 Ace-o-aces

Google “sugar of lead”.

141 Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2014 12:25:09pm

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

narthex. what a great word. had to look it up.

totally narthex, dude!!!

Scrabble gold.

142 teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2014 12:25:26pm
143 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 12:25:47pm

In a statement, a spokesman for AFP downplayed the mistakes as “a few minor administrative errors.”

please, proceed…

144 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 12:26:51pm

re: #142 teleskiguy

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heh…there was a chemtrail esploshun outside here yesterday:

145 Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2014 12:27:56pm
146 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 12:28:06pm
147 The War TARDIS  Sep 29, 2014 12:28:48pm

I am noticing another right wing site, this time Before it’s News, attacking my Imam.

My article wasn’t enough. I have a bigger idea for more.

148 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 29, 2014 12:30:36pm

re: #146 Kragar

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You save the 30 school kids but make up for it by shaming 10,000 sluts.

149 Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2014 12:31:56pm

re: #142 teleskiguy

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In one of my lessons last week, we were discussing conspiracy theories, and I brought up the chemtrails CT.

The students were all like, “Everyone knows those just are airplane contrails. What kind of idiot really believes it’s some sinister governmental plot to poison people?”

Then I had to discuss Alex Jones, etc. Hoo boy. The general sentiment was “Why are these people not in mental asylums?”

150 Lidane  Sep 29, 2014 12:32:04pm

re: #142 teleskiguy

LOL chemtrails. I know quite a few people who are convinced that chemtrails are a real thing. It’s so weird.

151 Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2014 12:32:28pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…there was a chemtrail esploshun outside here yesterday:

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Chemtrails were the secret weapon that won WWII for us:

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152 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 29, 2014 12:32:33pm

re: #147 The War TARDIS

I am noticing another right wing site, this time Before it’s News, attacking my Imam.

My article wasn’t enough. I have a bigger idea for more.

Before it’s News isn’t just rightwing, it’s full bore, out and out nutzo. It starts in ground that Alex Jones is afraid to tread. The range of psychopathology available on it is immense.

RBS

153 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 29, 2014 12:32:42pm

So given the abject lawlessness and lack of credible oversight, at what point is a police officer to be dealt with as a an outlaw himself? How far out there does it get before ordinary people are justified to flee from a Ferguson cop rather than comply? To flee in the vehicle calling the other Police agency up the road for help?

911-
“”Help me I’m being pursued by a Ferguson police officer! Send real police!!!”“

154 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 12:33:04pm

Ferguson and Hong Kong (hiding the tweets because the drivers/cars have identifying information)

Click to Reveal


Click to Reveal
155 Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2014 12:34:18pm

Also linked at Talking Points Memo:

National Review Writer: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Hanged

156 The War TARDIS  Sep 29, 2014 12:35:30pm

re: #152 RealityBasedSteve

Still, not enough. I have to do more. To protect my Imam, and the OKC Muslim Community.

157 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 12:35:46pm

hey Upchuck, chew on this…

158 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 12:35:51pm

HE’S BACK!

159 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 29, 2014 12:36:46pm

re: #149 Dr Lizardo

In one of my lessons last week, we were discussing conspiracy theories, and I brought up the chemtrails CT.

The students were all like, “Everyone knows those just are airplane contrails. What kind of idiot really believes it’s some sinister governmental plot to poison people?”

Then I had to discuss Alex Jones, etc. Hoo boy. The general sentiment was “Why are these people not in mental asylums?”

Well, they won’t be mystified when the Chinese buy us all out in 2030. You would have already explained the underlying cause to them.
//

160 Ace-o-aces  Sep 29, 2014 12:36:52pm
161 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 29, 2014 12:37:36pm

re: #156 The War TARDIS

Still, not enough. I have to do more. To protect my Imam, and the OKC Muslim Community.

And I don’t blame you at all…. I’m just giving you a heads up that site is toxic beyond EPA’s worst nightmares. You do the things you need to do, it’s the right thing to do.

RBS

162 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 12:37:57pm
163 Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2014 12:38:53pm

re: #152 RealityBasedSteve

Before it’s News isn’t just rightwing, it’s full bore, out and out nutzo. It starts in ground that Alex Jones is afraid to tread. The range of psychopathology available on it is immense.

RBS

Actually, I don’t think BeforeItsNews is really a right wing site — they’ll publish anything, but they seem to specialize in conspiracy theories. Since most of the conspiracy theories are coming out of the right, that’s why it can seem like a RW site.

164 Bulworth  Sep 29, 2014 12:39:56pm

re:
#160

“Hey, look, if people get sick from the rat droppings, or see the rat droppings in their food and get sick, they can get food someplace else, OK? That’s how the Free Market works. We don’t need more government regulations telling businesses what they can or can’t drop into the food they sell!”

/

165 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 29, 2014 12:40:02pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

Actually, I don’t think BeforeItsNews is really a right wing site — they’ll publish anything, but they seem to specialize in conspiracy theories. Since most of the conspiracy theories are coming out of the right, that’s why it can seem like a RW site.

So for Fair and Balanced reasons we need to form a committee to come up with some good left-wing nut conspiracies?
/

166 Snarknado!  Sep 29, 2014 12:40:05pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

Should be “to late TO spell check.”

167 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2014 12:40:33pm

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

OK, cool beans.

I just won an Orient automatic watch on a Czech auction website, and paid about $50 for it. It’s used, a few minor scratches, but nothing severe; it comes with the original box, from the original owner, and apparently it runs very well with no problems.

Here….automatic watches are very expensive. You can buy a Seiko5 in the US for less than $70 brand new, but here, they’re twice the price at a minimum.

So I reckon I got a good deal. I know wristwatches are perhaps going out of style back in the US, but not here in the Czech Republic. Everyone wears them, even the smartphone owners. :D

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Bravo for choosing a mechanical watch! Quartz can always be had for cheap, but there’s something about the engineering ingenuity of using an spring-regulated oscillating wheel, driven by impulses from the pallet fork which it also releases at a precise rate, controlling the release of energy from a wound spring through a set of reduction gears to tell time!

168 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 29, 2014 12:41:17pm

re: #167 GeneJockey

Bravo for choosing a mechanical watch! Quartz can always be had for cheap, but there’s something about the engineering ingenuity of using an spring-regulated oscillating wheel, driven by impulses from the pallet fork which it also releases at a precise rate, controlling the release of energy from a wound spring through a set of reduction gears to tell time!

So that’s what they’re calling it now.
;)

169 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2014 12:41:39pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, it IS highlighted in red. Maybe that IS spellcheck?

170 jaunte  Sep 29, 2014 12:42:27pm

re: #158 Kragar

Serious Pundit

171 dog philosopher  Sep 29, 2014 12:42:43pm

re: #167 GeneJockey

Bravo for choosing a mechanical watch! Quartz can always be had for cheap, but there’s something about the engineering ingenuity of using an spring-regulated oscillating wheel, driven by impulses from the pallet fork which it also releases at a precise rate, controlling the release of energy from a wound spring through a set of reduction gears to tell time!

you left out the angels in charge of rotating the celestial spheres

172 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 29, 2014 12:42:50pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

Actually, I don’t think BeforeItsNews is really a right wing site — they’ll publish anything, but they seem to specialize in conspiracy theories. Since most of the conspiracy theories are coming out of the right, that’s why it can seem like a RW site.

good point… The times I’ve been there, (and I can only being there a short time before my idiot filter overloads and I’m screaming at the screen), it was obvious that many of them are totally anti-govt.

RBS

173 Interesting Times  Sep 29, 2014 12:43:33pm

re: #138 Snarknado!

A troubling article about Amazon:

Part 1

Part 2

I think this deserves a page (but with excerpts from the articles to provide a taste of how horrible it is)

It sucks all the more when you realize how boycotting Amazon for its shitty business practices can be next to impossible…precisely because those shitty business practices eliminated any other option you had :/

174 Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2014 12:45:30pm

re: #171 dog philosopher

you left out the angels in charge of rotating the celestial spheres

The Ether Hunnies.

175 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2014 12:45:55pm

re: #164 Bulworth

re:
#160

“Hey, look, if people get sick from the rat droppings, or see the rat droppings in their food and get sick, they can get food someplace else, OK? That’s how the Free Market works. We don’t need more government regulations telling businesses what they can or can’t drop into the food they sell!”

/

One of the problems of food handling is that it is literally impossible to prevent some level of contamination. It may seem disgusting to have actual limits on the number of bug parts per hot dog, or cherry pits per can of pie filling, or rat droppings per loaf of bread, but that’s reality. We live in a world with bugs and other vermin who like our food at least as much as we do, and try as we might we cannot completely prevent them from getting to it.

EDIT: Imagine if we DIDN’T have regulations on the limits of those things!

176 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2014 12:47:09pm

It seems like the Ferguson PD really do believe they are above the law.

I’ve heard of individual cops like that, but never an entire department.

They say fuck you to the FBI, fuck you to the DOJ, fuck you to the media and fuck you to people of Ferguson.

Who is left to stop them?

177 Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2014 12:47:23pm

re: #167 GeneJockey

Bravo for choosing a mechanical watch! Quartz can always be had for cheap, but there’s something about the engineering ingenuity of using an spring-regulated oscillating wheel, driven by impulses from the pallet fork which it also releases at a precise rate, controlling the release of energy from a wound spring through a set of reduction gears to tell time!

Heh.

I prefer automatic watches, as I never to worry about a battery going dead. They need to be cleaned and serviced periodically, of course, but I’ve had automatic watches in the past that I’d picked up in pretty bad shape, and they ran fine. They were Seiko5 automatics, and those are workhorses.

But here, yeesh……really expensive. A used one here in decent condition will sell for about $150 - I saw a really broken-down one at a second-hand shop downtown, and they wanted $50 for it, on the grounds that “It’s a Seiko automatic!”.

Yeah……a Seiko automatic that doesn’t work. Not even remotely worth $50; maybe $10 at the most. The one I want to get is a Seiko bullnose, like this:

but those are really pricey. Even a beat-up one sells for mucho dinero.

178 EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2014 12:48:18pm

re: #173 Interesting Times

I think this deserves a page (but with excerpts from the articles to provide a taste of how horrible it is)

It sucks all the more when you realize how boycotting Amazon for its shitty business practices can be next to impossible…precisely because those shitty business practices eliminated any other option you had :/

I agree with this. I’ve been forgetting the lessons of the past in assuming that success like Amazon has had can be achieved honestly. Turns out it’s just the same old business model of Rockefeller et al., revised and updated for new markets and technology.

179 Snarknado!  Sep 29, 2014 12:49:06pm

re: #173 Interesting Times

I think this deserves a page (but with excerpts from the articles to provide a taste of how horrible it is)

It sucks all the more when you realize how boycotting Amazon for its shitty business practices can be next to impossible…precisely because those shitty business practices eliminated any other option you had :/

I’m getting ready to keave town and don’t have time — help yourself (and thanks).

180 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 12:49:44pm

Chiun: “The trained mind does not need a watch. Watches are a confidence trick invented by the Swiss.”

181 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 29, 2014 12:52:44pm

The only thing I can say about Amazon is, unlike Walmart, they do have an affiliate program where an independent blogger (like Charles) can get some extra cash. Although their affiliate commissions have really plummeted since this program started in the last ‘90’s. A remember when a purchase from a direct click could get the referrer 15%.

182 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2014 12:55:55pm

re: #177 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

I prefer automatic watches, as I never to worry about a battery going dead. They need to be cleaned and serviced periodically, of course, but I’ve had automatic watches in the past that I’d picked up in pretty bad shape, and they ran fine. They were Seiko5 automatics, and those are workhorses.

But here, yeesh……really expensive. A used one here in decent condition will sell for about $150 - I saw a really broken-down one at a second-hand shop downtown, and they wanted $50 for it, on the grounds that “It’s a Seiko automatic!”.

Yeah……a Seiko automatic that doesn’t work. Not even remotely worth $50; maybe $10 at the most. The one I want to get is a Seiko bullnose, like this:

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but those are really pricey. Even a beat-up one sells for mucho dinero.

Not sure how it is there, but antique and secondhand stores are a lousy place to get watches here. Independent watchmakers often have a number of watches for sale which have the advantage of having been professionally serviced.

I pick up my watches exclusively on Ebay, but then I’m a collector who has made a careful study of one brand (Elgin) from one era (1935-1964), and learned how to do my own servicing. If you don’t know your brand, and you can’t do your own services, it’s like dancing through a minefield.

Seikos - especially the Seiko 5s - are designed to run a long time giving good accuracy without being serviced, with the caveat that they’ll wear out like any other unserviced mechanical watch. But they’ll run more accurately till then. Some of the Elgins I’ve picked up were nonrunners just because of dirt, and ran beautifully once serviced.

183 Kragar  Sep 29, 2014 12:58:02pm

Interview: Meet Dan Spitz, Anthrax Guitarist Turned Master Watchmaker

Dan Spitz, former lead guitarist for thrash metal band Anthrax, has sold more than 15 million albums, been nominated for 3 Grammy’s, created over 10 studio albums - and now he is recognized as one of the best watchmakers in the world. After leading one of the greatest metal bands of all time, he abruptly departed Anthrax and pursued numerous courses of study to master the art of watchmaking.

184 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 12:58:34pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

Also linked at Talking Points Memo:

National Review Writer: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Hanged

Good, I am glad Williamson’s disgusting sexism is getting exposed. Good on you for being on this from the start like many other things. Williamson and NRO really are disgusting.

185 Snarknado!  Sep 29, 2014 12:59:16pm

re: #181 Pie-onist Overlord

The only thing I can say about Amazon is, unlike Walmart, they do have an affiliate program where an independent blogger (like Charles) can get some extra cash. Although their affiliate commissions have really plummeted since this program started in the last ‘90’s. A remember when a purchase from a direct click could get the referrer 15%.

On the other hand, Charles allows us to subscribe directly and avoid any ethics issues

(I like their free live streaming with prime, and don’t feel ilI might be raping Main Street by using it.)

186 jaunte  Sep 29, 2014 1:00:20pm

Kurt Eichenwald:

“…Lamborn, who sits on the House Armed Services Committee, burbled happily at the absurd conspiracy theory voiced by someone in the audience, and then assured the crowd that, in fact, he and his fellow Republicans were doing everything in their power to undermine America. “A lot of us are talking to the generals behind the scenes, saying, ‘Hey, if you disagree with the policy that the White House has given you, let’s have a resignation,’” Lamborn said. Then he added that if generals resigned en masse to protest Obama’s policy in the Middle East, they would “go out in a blaze of glory.”

Stop and think about this for a minute. Unless Lamborn is a bold-faced liar, he just admitted that he and members of his party have been oozing around Washington, buttonholing senior members of the military and telling them to abandon their troops in the middle of a war.”

187 lawhawk  Sep 29, 2014 1:00:47pm

Update on the police action near the lair last night. Turns out that a person made claims that they had biological weapons, causing the PD to call in the bomb squad and to do the evacuations. The guy is being evaluated for mental health issues, and has been charged with making terrorist threats and making false public alarm.

No devices/weapons were found. Thankfully.

188 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 29, 2014 1:00:54pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

Also linked at Talking Points Memo:

National Review Writer: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Hanged

Don’t forget Scottie Nell Hughes shares Kevin’s disgusting opinion.

189 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2014 1:00:55pm

re: #183 Kragar

Interview: Meet Dan Spitz, Anthrax Guitarist Turned Master Watchmaker

It’s a frequently enjoyable and often exasperating hobby, especially when one encounters the problem you can’t diagnose - the watch where every single component tests our fine, and even groups of components work together beautifully, but the watch as a whole runs poorly.

I have one of them on my bench right now. It kept me at the bench for two whole days, and has kept me away from the bench for a couple weeks now.

190 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:03:49pm

re: #186 jaunte

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Kurt Eichenwald:

Some tyrant Obama is. I bet you he’s allowed to keep his seat despite this bullshit.

191 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 1:04:38pm

re: #186 jaunte

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Kurt Eichenwald:

Let’s stop and consider that Democrats were given all sorts of hell for just saying that generals didn’t agree with the White House about how to fight the war in Iraq. Let’s ask Shinseki how accepting Republicans were of a general who publicly stated that his superiors didn’t know their asses from a hole in the ground and were low-balling the number of troops needed to look good.

192 goddamnedfrank  Sep 29, 2014 1:05:22pm

re: #149 Dr Lizardo

Then I had to discuss Alex Jones, etc. Hoo boy. The general sentiment was “Why are these people not in mental asylums?”

FREEDUMB!!!

193 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:06:06pm

re: #191 Targetpractice

Let’s stop and consider that Democrats were given all sorts of hell for just saying that generals didn’t agree with the White House about how to fight the war in Iraq. Let’s ask Shinseki how accepting Republicans were of a general who publicly stated that his superiors didn’t know their asses from a hole in the ground and were low-balling the number of troops needed to look good.

Oh but that was different you know because Republican in the WH different rules blah blah. Truth is they pulled similar shit in the Clinton years. For all their talk about being “patriotic” their behavior borders on seditious whenever there’s a Democrat in the White House but yet they freak their shit if anyone dares to say nary a critical word about a Republican president’s foreign policy.

194 goddamnedfrank  Sep 29, 2014 1:07:33pm

Horologists are weird. No offense or anything, but you know you are.

At least you’re not audiophiles.

195 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 29, 2014 1:07:41pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Some tyrant Obama is. I bet you he’s allowed to keep his seat despite this bullshit.

That’s because he’s gathering all that info, making the lists, getting the camps all provisioned for his third term. That’s when he’ll spring his traps.

What, no third term???? You naive fool, you’ve obviously missed what the good Dr. Ben Carson has to say on the subject….

WALLACE: You said recently that there might not even be elections in 2016 because of widespread anarchy. Do you really believe that?
CARSON: I hope that that’s not going to be the case. But certainly there’s the potential because you have to recognize that we have a rapidly increasing national debt, a very unstable financial foundation, and you have all these things going on like the ISIS crisis that could very rapidly change things that are going on in our nation. And unless we begin to deal with these things in a comprehensive way and in a logical way there is no telling what could happen in just a couple of years.

Insidious and patient is the way of the Obama. ///////

RBS

196 jaunte  Sep 29, 2014 1:08:27pm

re: #195 RealityBasedSteve

the ISIS crisis that could very rapidly change things that are going on in our nation

Raving insanity.

197 Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2014 1:08:52pm

re: #182 GeneJockey

Not sure how it is there, but antique and secondhand stores are a lousy place to get watches here. Independent watchmakers often have a number of watches for sale which have the advantage of having been professionally serviced.

I pick up my watches exclusively on Ebay, but then I’m a collector who has made a careful study of one brand (Elgin) from one era (1935-1964), and learned how to do my own servicing. If you don’t know your brand, and you can’t do your own services, it’s like dancing through a minefield.

Seikos - especially the Seiko 5s - are designed to run a long time giving good accuracy without being serviced, with the caveat that they’ll wear out like any other unserviced mechanical watch. But they’ll run more accurately till then. Some of the Elgins I’ve picked up were nonrunners just because of dirt, and ran beautifully once serviced.

Elgin is very nice; my father had about three or four of them in his collection.

198 leftynyc  Sep 29, 2014 1:08:54pm

I think this article was supposed to make me feel sorry for George Zimmerman. It didn’t.

gq.com

199 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:09:50pm

re: #195 RealityBasedSteve

That’s because he’s gathering all that info, making the lists, getting the camps all provisioned for his third term. That’s when he’ll spring his traps.

What, no third term???? You naive fool, you’ve obviously missed what the good Dr. Ben Carson has to say on the subject….

Insidious and patient is the way of the Obama. ///////

RBS

Carson really is a sad sack of shit isn’t he? I mean really. I know him and the other RWNJ nutjobs have wet dreams about Obama being this tyrant so they can get their martyr on but they forget something else- that Obama may not even want a third term. I bet he’s tired of pathetic hacks like Carson who live in an alternative reality where Obama is as bad as Hitler constantly bitching at him and I bet he’s going to enjoy retirement.

200 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 1:11:05pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

Oh but that was different you know because Republican in the WH different rules blah blah. Truth is they pulled similar shit in the Clinton years. For all their talk about being “patriotic” their behavior borders on seditious whenever there’s a Democrat in the White House but yet they freak their shit if anyone dares to say nary a critical word about a Republican president’s foreign policy.

Ayep. They lost their shit any time somebody in uniform criticized the war effort or the way it was being fought under Bush, but now they want generals to resign so they can prove that Obama doesn’t have the support of the military, or rather doesn’t have the support of the warmongers they approve of and who approve of them in return.

201 jaunte  Sep 29, 2014 1:12:17pm

re: #198 leftynyc

I think this article was supposed to make me feel sorry for George Zimmerman. It didn’t.

gq.com

Bob tells me that George’s big fear right now is that he’ll be charged with federal civil rights violations for the Martin shooting.

“He’s worried,” Bob says, “that if FBI agents come and kick in his door, he’s probably gonna shoot a few of them.”

Yeah, I don’t think many normal people are going to sympathize.

202 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:12:28pm

re: #200 Targetpractice

Ayep. They lost their shit any time somebody in uniform criticized the war effort or the way it was being fought under Bush, but now they want generals to resign so they can prove that Obama doesn’t have the support of the military, or rather doesn’t have the support of the warmongers they approve of and who approve of them in return.

I bet Obama cannot wait to slam these fuckers for the hypocrites they are in his memoirs.

203 Bulworth  Sep 29, 2014 1:12:54pm

re:
#195

But certainly there’s the potential because you have to recognize that we have a rapidly increasing national debt, a very unstable financial foundation, and you have all these things going on like the ISIS crisis that could very rapidly change things that are going on in our nation.

Palin-level word salad derp there.

204 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:14:04pm

re: #201 jaunte

Bob tells me that George’s big fear right now is that he’ll be charged with federal civil rights violations for the Martin shooting.

“He’s worried,” Bob says, “that if FBI agents come and kick in his door, he’s probably gonna shoot a few of them.”

Yeah, I don’t think many normal people are going to sympathize.

You know, he could have made this all easier on him by not suspecting Treyvon Martin was a criminal. I have no sympathy whatsoever for George Zimmerman at all. For Treyvon’s parents and younger brother? Oh hell yeah but for Zimmerman, I’ll save it for someone who deserves it. The guy got away with murder and has had two instances since that night where he’s shown that he’s a pathetic thug who thinks it’s okay to be violent to people.

205 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 29, 2014 1:14:49pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Carson really is a sad sack of shit isn’t he? I mean really. I know him and the other RWNJ nutjobs have wet dreams about Obama being this tyrant so they can get their martyr on but they forget something else- that Obama may not even want a third term. I bet he’s tired of pathetic hacks like Carson who live in an alternative reality where Obama is as bad as Hitler constantly bitching at him and I bet he’s going to enjoy retirement.

206 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:15:57pm

You know, I remember people saying crazy shit about Bush wanting a third term too but the difference here is none of them were aspirants for high office on the Democratic side. You never heard Obama, Edwards, or Clinton claiming Bush was going to give himself a third term. And honestly I think the term limit amendment is silly personally. If we had it when FDR had sought a third term, I don’t even want to know how this country would have handled WWII without FDR’s leadership.

207 freetoken  Sep 29, 2014 1:16:20pm

Bobby Godspeak seeking to be President:

Jindal stresses Judeo-Christian values

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a potential Republican candidate for president, believes the most important factor in the nation’s success is its Judeo-Christian values.

Jindal was one of several potential candidates to attend an Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition fundraiser Saturday night, one of the year’s largest gatherings of Iowa social conservatives.

In a new riff, Jindal boiled the message down to a paraphrase of a slogan popularized by President Bill Clinton: “It’s the culture, stupid.”

[…]

208 jaunte  Sep 29, 2014 1:17:02pm

re: #198 leftynyc

“…The Zimmermans seized on their brief stint of subsidized luxury. They ran up a big room-service bill, cleaned out the minibars, got their clothes laundered, made several trips to the spa, treated a party of ten to dinner at the hotel restaurant, and bought swag—from bracelets to bath fizzies—at the gift shop.

Toward the end of their stay, according to Robert, a manager presented him with a bill for $3,600. He says he called CNN, outraged, only to have the producer accuse them of splurging shamelessly on CNN’s dime. “You and your brother are evil!” he remembers her screaming. The hotel manager threatened to call the police. Alone in his room, Robert started shaking. He wrapped all the blankets around him, ordered shrimp, chain-smoked cigarettes, got roaring drunk. Nothing helped. He called his mother in a panic. “I can’t get warm,” he sobbed. “I just can’t get warm.”

Entitled doofuses worthy of honorary Palin fambly membership.

209 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:17:46pm

re: #205 Pie-onist Overlord

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Yep Carson’s a hypocrite too. But let’s be honest here all of the Republican candidates are in this way. Rick Santorum who rags on public schools? Undergrad degree at Pitt- a public university and I believe he got both his MBA and law degree at Penn State. Paul Ryan? Beneficiary of his father’s premature death and using the SS money to pay for college. I have no problem with these guys doing that of course but their hypocrisy sickens me.

210 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2014 1:17:49pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

Horologists are weird. No offense or anything, but you know you are.

At least you’re not audiophiles.

Not anymore, but that phase did leave me with a nice system…

211 lawhawk  Sep 29, 2014 1:18:30pm

Halliburton. Guess that just slips their mind.

212 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:18:59pm

re: #207 freetoken

Bobby Godspeak seeking to be President:

Jindal stresses Judeo-Christian values

Too bad Bobby doesn’t have values. He’s just a bigoted hack who hides behind “Judeo-Christian values” while he’s actually a pathetic hack who uses religion to hide what an incompetent and bigoted imbecile he is.

213 jaunte  Sep 29, 2014 1:19:03pm

I rarely run up a huge hotel bill, but when I do, I get roaring drunk, eat a bunch of shrimp, and call Mom.

214 Bulworth  Sep 29, 2014 1:19:23pm

CNN seems to be leaning just a tad hysterical regarding ISIS. They’ve finally found a suitable replacement story for THE MISSING PLANE!!!!!

215 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 1:19:59pm

re: #208 jaunte

Entitled doofuses worthy of honorary Palin fambly membership.

Doesn’t surprise me to read this shit. That George and his family are bawling their eyes out because of the way they’re treated does not move me in the least. Especially not when they never missed an opportunity to tell the media just how great a guy George was and how horrible it was that people didn’t think him so.

216 Bulworth  Sep 29, 2014 1:21:06pm

re:
#208

Sounds like Zimmerman’s got the makings of a fine GOP Senatorial candidate….

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217 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 1:21:12pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Too bad Bobby doesn’t have values. He’s just a bigoted hack who hides behind “Judeo-Christian values” while he’s actually a pathetic hack who uses religion to hide what an incompetent and bigoted imbecile he is.

Jindal’s sort of par for the course in Louisiana politics: Crooked as the day is long, but able to rely upon “That Ol’ Time Religion” to bring the rubes to the polls on election day.

218 Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2014 1:21:41pm

re: #208 jaunte

Entitled doofuses worthy of honorary Palin fambly membership.

Why am I picturing a malevolent version of the Beverley Hillbillies when I read that?

219 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:23:28pm

re: #217 Targetpractice

Jindal’s sort of par for the course in Louisiana politics: Crooked as the day is long, but able to rely upon “That Ol’ Time Religion” to bring the rubes to the polls on election day.

Yep. He’d be right at home with Huey Long sipping on bourbon and laughing about how he got the suckers reeled in with the family values stuff. He’s such a blatant pandering asshole. I wish someone would ask him if he thinks his Hindu relatives in India were “lacking” values. After all, he thinks all a country needs is “Judeo-Christian” values. I am not attacking him for being a Christian for what ti’s worth, I am however attacking him for implying that only Christians have moral values in this country which so many of his fellow Republicans do.

220 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:23:53pm

re: #216 Bulworth

re:
#208

Sounds like Zimmerman’s got the makings of a fine GOP Senatorial candidate….

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Why not? He wouldn’t be the biggest nut they’ll run.

221 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 29, 2014 1:24:46pm

This is pure awesome:

Dem Candidate for Michigan’s 93rd house district sends epic response to anti-gay hate group.

222 Lidane  Sep 29, 2014 1:25:18pm

Looks like Pam ran afoul of James Foley’s family:

Anti-Islam Group Removes Ad Using Image of James Foley

“The advertisement you are preparing to run seems to convey the message that ordinary practitioners of Islam are a dangerous threat. This message is entirely inconsistent with Mr. Foley’s reporting and his beliefs.
“The use of Mr. Foley’s photo in your advertisement will cause profound distress to the Foley family. They do not want to see this photo exploited to attract funding and attention to your group. We request that you immediately withdraw it and cease its use in your advertising.”

223 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 29, 2014 1:26:51pm

re: #198 leftynyc


even more fun with the grifter family zimmerman

224 Shiplord Kirel  Sep 29, 2014 1:27:11pm

Lubbock’s “Mr. Conservative,” Dr. Donald May, retains his accustomed place at the leading edge of the daily right-wing guano wave:

First U.S. ISIS-inspired beheading is in Oklahoma

An ISIS-inspired Muslim convert killed and beheaded a woman in Moore, Oklahoma on Thursday and attempted to kill and apparently behead a second woman. The owner of the business where the grizzly murder and attack took place shot the attacker, stopping his murderous rampage. (emphasis added)

I wonder if he has informed fellow loon Bryan Fischer about this apparent bear/ISIS connection.

225 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 29, 2014 1:27:15pm

re: #222 Lidane

Looks like Pam ran afoul of James Foley’s family:

Anti-Islam Group Removes Ad Using Image of James Foley

It would not surprise me if she goes on the attack against the Foleys.

226 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:27:29pm

re: #221 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

This is pure awesome:

Dem Candidate for Michigan’s 93rd house district sends epic response to anti-gay hate group.

Man I love that and Josh is my age. This is why I will always defend Generation Y why people rag on us. Oh and that shithead Delgaudio is local. Mr. Family Values has a brother who was poppoed for sleeping with underaged girls. He actually thought George Allen was too liberal. Bonafide right wing nutjob. Love this response. I hope this isn’t the last we’ve seen of Derke.

227 Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2014 1:28:07pm

re: #225 Pie-onist Overlord

It would not surprise me if she goes on the attack against the Foleys.

Then the Foley’s would most likely file a lawsuit, I imagine.

228 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:28:25pm

re: #222 Lidane

Looks like Pam ran afoul of James Foley’s family:

Anti-Islam Group Removes Ad Using Image of James Foley

Good. Her using the photos of his death to push her hate crusade was disgusting and I am glad they called her on it.

229 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:29:00pm

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

Then the Foley’s would most likely file a lawsuit, I imagine.

I would love to see her exposed in court for the hatemongreling psychopath that she is.

230 Romantic Heretic  Sep 29, 2014 1:32:52pm

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

Officer “Dunkin’ Donuts Customer of The Year”, more likely.

Made me think of this scene from Robocop 3.

Youtube Video

231 Lidane  Sep 29, 2014 1:34:05pm

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Good. Her using the photos of his death to push her hate crusade was disgusting and I am glad they called her on it.

Well, the new ads aren’t exactly better. They now show an unknown extremist holding up a severed head.

232 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 29, 2014 1:34:06pm

re: #226 HappyWarrior

Man I love that and Josh is my age. This is why I will always defend Generation Y why people rag on us. Oh and that shithead Delgaudio is local. Mr. Family Values has a brother who was poppoed for sleeping with underaged girls. He actually thought George Allen was too liberal. Bonafide right wing nutjob. Love this response. I hope this isn’t the last we’ve seen of Derke.

Seems to shut them up for a while….

RBS

233 Bulworth  Sep 29, 2014 1:34:51pm

re:
#222

SEE how persecuted WE ARE!!!1111

234 Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2014 1:36:07pm

re: #232 RealityBasedSteve

Seems to shut them up for a while….

RBS

How many times has Rush Limbaugh been married and divorced?

Newt Gingrich?

And these people dare to claim the mantle of family values? Hypocrisy of the highest order.

235 freetoken  Sep 29, 2014 1:37:25pm

This happened:

High court puts off start of early voting in Ohio

5-4 decision. The USSC is quite the divided house.

236 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 1:39:07pm

re: #232 RealityBasedSteve

Seems to shut them up for a while….

RBS

Not really. I’ve met more than a few wingnuts who think we should do just that. Iowa Republicans tried to bring a bill to a vote in the state legislature that would have banned divorces except in cases of adultery, physical/sexual abuse, imprisonment, or if a spouse was missing for a year or living apart for two.

I regularly lock horns with a wingnut on another board who is absolutely convinced that the majority of the nation’s social problems stem from no-fault divorce.

237 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2014 1:39:46pm

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

How many times has Rush Limbaugh been married and divorced?

Newt Gingrich?

And these people dare to claim the mantle of family values? Hypocrisy of the highest order.

Hell, their icon, Ronald Reagan was divorced, and then married his second wife when he knocked her up.

Compare divorce rates for Evangelicals to those of atheists, or even to more liberal Christian sects, and you’ll find that they’re the LAST people who should be yammering about “the sanctity of marriage”.

238 Lidane  Sep 29, 2014 1:41:35pm

Uh, what?

Netanyahu to U.N.: ‘Hamas Is ISIS and ISIS Is Hamas’

239 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:43:08pm

re: #232 RealityBasedSteve

Seems to shut them up for a while….

RBS

It’s pretty funny to hear from people on their third marriage about the “sanctity” of marriage but to be “fair” some of the ultra nuts have a problem with divorce too.

240 klys  Sep 29, 2014 1:45:02pm

re: #235 freetoken

I’m shocked.

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241 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2014 1:45:23pm

re: #221 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

This is pure awesome:

Dem Candidate for Michigan’s 93rd house district sends epic response to anti-gay hate group.

4. I will Oppose attempts to add “Homosexuality”, “Transsexuality” or “Pedophilia” as protected classes or statuses under Michigan’s Anti-Discrimination Law.

Good grief these people are messed in the head.

242 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:45:49pm

re: #237 GeneJockey

Hell, their icon, Ronald Reagan was divorced, and then married his second wife when he knocked her up.

Compare divorce rates for Evangelicals to those of atheists, or even to more liberal Christian sects, and you’ll find that they’re the LAST people who should be yammering about “the sanctity of marriage”.

My cousin’s ex. Worked for Chuck Colson who as you may know after spending time behind bars for his Watergate activities became a Born Again. Anyhow cousin’s ex hubby. Mr. I have a problem with the gays at Rehoboth Beach(another cousin allowed family members to rent his cottage at Dewey) Anyhow, he ended having an affair. So yeah I don’t think too highly of them and their hypocritical bs but TP is right about how many of the big nuts have a problem with no fault divorce.

243 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:46:49pm

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

4. I will Oppose attempts to add “Homosexuality”, “Transsexuality” or “Pedophilia” as protected classes or statuses under Michigan’s Anti-Discrimination Law.

Good grief these people are messed in the head.

That’s Eugene Delgaudio for you. I don’t what Sterling did to deserve him in a past life because it’s a pretty nice little town.

244 CuriousLurker  Sep 29, 2014 1:48:26pm

re: #238 Lidane

Uh, what?

Netanyahu to U.N.: ‘Hamas Is ISIS and ISIS Is Hamas’

Devout Muslims, all of them! (Pamela Geller)

245 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:49:10pm

You really want to infuriate the anti gay bigots? Show them photos of gay couples who have been together longer than they(the winguts) have been alive. Those are always for me the most touching stories to read about when you read about SSM being legalized in a state. Two people whose love for each other has been there for years. It’s why I laugh hearing someone thrice divorced like Limbaugh act like he’s this arbiter of values. Nothing wrong with divorce mind you but there’s probably a good reason why Rush is on wife number four.

246 De Kolta Chair  Sep 29, 2014 1:51:06pm

“The microwave of the future,” 1959

247 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:51:22pm

Do any of the “Christian bakeries” check the marriage records of the men and women they are baking cakes for? Like because you know they would totally deny cake to someone divorced once. I jest because I know the answer to that and I think it shows you how the whole “I won’t bake a gay couple because of my religious beliefs” is just their way of saying “I won’t serve a gay couple because I’m a primitive bigot.”

248 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 1:53:05pm

re: #246 De Kolta Chair

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“The microwave of the future”

“Slow, lingering death from cancer not shown.”

Pictures from the 40s and 50s about the better-living through radiation never fail to make me facepalm.

249 dog philosopher  Sep 29, 2014 1:53:07pm

so we agree - it’s not possible for the republicans to nominate anybody for president

250 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 1:53:53pm

Gus must be feeling cold about now…

251 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 1:54:24pm

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Do any of the “Christian bakeries” check the marriage records of the men and women they are baking cakes for? Like because you know they would totally deny cake to someone divorced once. I jest because I know the answer to that and I think it shows you how the whole “I won’t bake a gay couple because of my religious beliefs” is just their way of saying “I won’t serve a gay couple because I’m a primitive bigot.”

If they could get away with “No Gays Allowed,” they’d do it. The people arguing today that they should be able to discriminate against gay customers are no different than those a generation ago who argued that being allowed to discriminate against black customers was their right.

252 dog philosopher  Sep 29, 2014 1:54:42pm

re: #246 De Kolta Chair

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“The microwave of the future”

will that device transport bacon up to me in the space colony on mars?

253 Jenner7  Sep 29, 2014 1:54:43pm
254 freetoken  Sep 29, 2014 1:54:59pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

GOREBULL WARMING!!!!

255 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 1:56:25pm

re: #251 Targetpractice

If they could get away with “No Gays Allowed,” they’d do it. The people arguing today that they should be able to discriminate against gay customers are no different than those a generation ago who argued that being allowed to discriminate against black customers was their right.

Absolutely.

256 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2014 1:57:31pm

re: #248 Targetpractice

“Slow, lingering death from cancer not shown.”

Pictures from the 40s and 50s about the better-living through radiation never fail to make me facepalm.

There’s a museum somewhere with items that used to be common, like the fluoroscope they used to have at shoe stores to show your foot bones in the shoe, that put out so much radiation they can’t legally turn them on anymore.

257 De Kolta Chair  Sep 29, 2014 1:59:08pm

re: #252 dog philosopher

I would hope so.re: #248 Targetpractice

“Slow, lingering death from cancer not shown.”

Placing the microwave a quarter mile from the sink also seems a bit excessive.

258 dog philosopher  Sep 29, 2014 2:01:00pm

fun with polls

NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Annenberg Poll. Sept. 19-25, 2014

“If it were determined by the military commanders that the best way to defeat the ISIS army was to use American military troops on the ground, would you be in favor of this decision or would you be in opposition to this decision, or do you really not have an opinion one way or the other?”

in favor 45%
opposed 37%
no opinion 15%
fish 2% (how much less opinion can you have than ‘no opinion’??)

Gallup Poll. Sept. 20-21, 2014

“Would you favor or oppose the United States sending ground troops to Iraq and Syria in order to assist groups in those countries that are fighting the Islamic militants?”

favor 40%
oppose 54%
unsure 6%

so, does this mean that boots on the ground are mostly popular, gaining popularity, or no popular?

259 danarchy  Sep 29, 2014 2:01:07pm

re: #235 freetoken

This happened:

High court puts off start of early voting in Ohio

5-4 decision. The USSC is quite the divided house.

Living in Massachusetts where there is NO early voting(aside from absentee). I find it hard to get worked up over Ohio reducing early voting from 5 weeks to 4 weeks.

260 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 2:01:11pm

re: #253 Jenner7

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White House fence-jumper made it far deeper into building than previously known

The man who jumped the White House fence this month and sprinted through the front door made it much farther into the building than previously known, overpowering one Secret Service officer and running through much of the main floor, according to three people familiar with the incident.

An alarm box near the front entrance of the White House designed to alert guards to an intruder had been muted at what officers believed was a request of the usher’s office, said a Secret Service official who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

261 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 29, 2014 2:01:14pm

re: #246 De Kolta Chair

Kinda surprised the switches aren’t in another room completely like they are for getting x-rays at the dentist’s office.

262 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 29, 2014 2:02:37pm

re: #257 De Kolta Chair

I would hope so.

The quarter mile walk from the microwave to the sink also seems a bit excessive.

Given kitchen sizes these days I have to wonder if a kitchen like that one actually exists outside of one of Romney or McCain’s umpteen houses.

263 Schadenboner  Sep 29, 2014 2:02:41pm

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

4. I will Oppose attempts to add “Homosexuality”, “Transsexuality” or “Pedophilia” as protected classes or statuses under Michigan’s Anti-Discrimination Law.

One of these things is not like the others…

264 Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2014 2:02:56pm

re: #258 dog philosopher

fun with polls

NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Annenberg Poll. Sept. 19-25, 2014

“If it were determined by the military commanders that the best way to defeat the ISIS army was to use American military troops on the ground, would you be in favor of this decision or would you be in opposition to this decision, or do you really not have an opinion one way or the other?”

in favor 45%
opposed 37%
no opinion 15%
fish 2% (how much less opinion can you have than ‘no opinion’??)

Gallup Poll. Sept. 20-21, 2014

“Would you favor or oppose the United States sending ground troops to Iraq and Syria in order to assist groups in those countries that are fighting the Islamic militants?”

favor 40%
oppose 54%
unsure 6%

so, does this mean that boots on the ground are mostly popular, gaining popularity, or no popular?

It means the people answering the poll can’t make up their fucking minds. Tell them “We’re gonna fight ISIS!” and they’re all on board. But say “We’re sending them to Syria!” and they suddenly change their minds.

265 Jenner7  Sep 29, 2014 2:03:50pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

Major fuck-ups all around.

266 klys  Sep 29, 2014 2:04:05pm

re: #259 danarchy

Living in Massachusetts where there is NO early voting(aside from absentee). I find it hard to get worked up over Ohio reducing early voting from 5 weeks to 4 weeks.

I’m sure the Republicans are working to restrict it because they strongly feel that it will improve democracy and make it more equal.

//

267 CuriousLurker  Sep 29, 2014 2:05:54pm

re: #244 CuriousLurker

Devout Muslims, all of them! (Pamela Geller)

For the record, I’m not exaggerating. That’s what she actually says in the post Mediaite links to:

It’s not ALL Muslims, just the observant ones. See? She’s not a hateful bigot, she just a patriotic truth telling humanitarian trying to protect the innocent. //

268 Stanley Sea  Sep 29, 2014 2:06:23pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

White House fence-jumper made it far deeper into building than previously known

SHIT SHOW.

269 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 29, 2014 2:08:53pm

In gaming news I am now playing Assassin’s Creed: Liberation and really digging it. Completely seperate storyline from the originals and a half-black half-white daughter of a former slave as the protagonist in pre-American Revolution New Orleans makes things very interesting.

270 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 2:09:12pm

re: #267 CuriousLurker

For the record, I’m not exaggerating. That’s what she actually says in the post Mediaite links to:

[Embedded image]

It’s not ALL Muslims, just the observant ones. See? She’s not a hateful bigot, she just a patriotic truth telling humanitarian trying to protect the innocent. //

I feel so bad that you, Doc Lizardo, and the other Muslims have to deal with this shit. I’ve known Muslims pretty much my whole life and I really am grateful for that because I think knowing people as individuals is how we can learn not to hate.

271 Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 29, 2014 2:09:53pm

re: #267 CuriousLurker

For the record, I’m not exaggerating. That’s what she actually says in the post Mediaite links to:

[Embedded image]

It’s not ALL Muslims, just the observant ones. See? She’s not a hateful bigot, she just a patriotic truth telling humanitarian trying to protect the innocent. //

I’ve seen that argument before, always from Christianists who get very upset if anyone but them gets to define what is and isn’t Christianity, but who think they get to define islam.

272 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 2:10:47pm

re: #269 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

In gaming news I am now playing Assassin’s Creed: Liberation and really digging it. Completely seperate storyline from the originals and a half-black half-white daughter of a former slave as the protagonist in pre-American Revolution New Orleans makes things very interesting.

They always come up with the most interesting settings. I heard Ubisoft say they would never do a WWII game but I’d play it. I think the American Civil War would make a good setting too. I’m way behind on AC though. I was pretty far on ACII but I got the yellow button of death and lost my data. I’m about to finish GTA V. Probably will start The Last of Us soon.

273 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 29, 2014 2:11:10pm

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

Elgin is very nice; my father had about three or four of them in his collection.

I have a 1904 Elgin 14 jewel that my great gf put in an 14k (IIRC) case that I wear occasionally. It keeps time well.

274 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 2:11:16pm

The Donald is gonna sue!

Donald Trump tricked into tweeting photo of serial killers

275 jaunte  Sep 29, 2014 2:11:29pm

Saturday I was up in the country (central TX) sitting on the porch having a cup of coffee, and this flock of wild turkey walked by:

I counted 18, but there may have been a few more.

276 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 2:11:36pm

re: #271 GeneJockey

I’ve seen that argument before, always from Christianists who get very upset if anyone but them gets to define what is and isn’t Christianity, but who think they get to define islam.

I can’t tell you how many wingnuts I have seen that fancy themselves “experts on Islam.” I then am curious to know how many Muslims they have actually met over the years and it’s shockingly very few.

277 De Kolta Chair  Sep 29, 2014 2:11:59pm

re: #252 dog philosopher

will that device transport bacon up to me in the space colony on mars?

Yes, once they’ve worked out a few minor kinks.

278 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 2:12:48pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Donald is gonna sue!

Donald Trump tricked into tweeting photo of serial killers

[Embedded content]

I saw that, I can understand why Donald is a little ticked off lol but suing over that? Sorry Donald you can’t sue someone for making you look like a dummy.

279 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 2:13:16pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

I feel so bad that you, Doc Lizardo, and the other Muslims have to deal with this shit. I’ve known Muslims pretty much my whole life and I really am grateful for that because I think knowing people as individuals is how we can learn not to hate.

I have enough problems dealing with the local Pentecostalists before I ever start worrying about Muslims.

280 b.d.  Sep 29, 2014 2:13:47pm

re: #275 jaunte

Awesome

281 Jenner7  Sep 29, 2014 2:14:01pm

Sorry if this has already been posted….

Damn..

282 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 2:15:34pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have enough problems dealing with the local Pentecostalists before I ever start worrying about Muslims.

I’ve actually known more Muslims than I have Pentecostals. Really, it’s been my experience that people who fear Muslims and Islam the most have the least actual experience with Muslims. An Afghan guy owns the kabob shop that my family went to for years in our hometown. We don’t make it out there that often but we were in town for my kid brother’s swim meet a couple years back and he remembered my Mom and commented about how her boys were all grown up now. I thought that was really sweet that he remembered us. Awesome kabobs too.

283 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 2:16:24pm

re: #282 HappyWarrior

I’ve actually known more Muslims than I have Pentecostals. Really, it’s been my experience that people who fear Muslims and Islam the most have the least actual experience with Muslims. An Afghan guy owns the kabob shop that my family went to for years in our hometown. We don’t make it out there that often but we were in town for my kid brother’s swim meet a couple years back and he remembered my Mom and commented about how her boys were all grown up now. I thought that was really sweet that he remembered us. Awesome kabobs too.

I live in a hotbed Pentecostal area.
Those people are truly nutz.

284 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 2:17:24pm

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

I live in a hotbed Pentecostal area.
Those people are truly nutz.

Are they the snake and speaking in tongues people? This ole baptized Catholic gets so confused over the various Protestant gropups.

285 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2014 2:18:25pm

re: #284 HappyWarrior

Are they the snake and speaking in tongues people? This ole baptized Catholic gets so confused over the various Protestant gropups.

yep…and some of them drink strychnine (they rely on the same Bible verse as the snake handlers).

286 CuriousLurker  Sep 29, 2014 2:18:45pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

I feel so bad that you, Doc Lizardo, and the other Muslims have to deal with this shit. I’ve known Muslims pretty much my whole life and I really am grateful for that because I think knowing people as individuals is how we can learn not to hate.

{{HW}}

287 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 2:19:09pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep…and some of them drink strychnine (they rely on the same Bible verse as the snake handlers).

And they think the Catholics are weird for drinking the blood of Christ and eating his body and having a man with a pointy hat as their boss in Rome heh.

288 dog philosopher  Sep 29, 2014 2:20:18pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

ythey rely on the same Bible verse as the snake handlers

“and the lord will protect me as i have the mind of a chocolate chip muffin”

that one?

289 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 29, 2014 2:20:43pm

re: #272 HappyWarrior

They always come up with the most interesting settings. I heard Ubisoft say they would never do a WWII game but I’d play it. I think the American Civil War would make a good setting too. I’m way behind on AC though. I was pretty far on ACII but I got the yellow button of death and lost my data. I’m about to finish GTA V. Probably will start The Last of Us soon.

They kind of poke fun at the idea of doing a WWII one in some of the things you find in Assassin’s Creed: Black Flag. I get why they aren’t but it would be cool to see one done. In both this one (Assassin’s Creed: Liberation) and the expansion for Assassin’s Creed Black Flag (Freedom Cry) they definitely hit upon slavery and the slave trade in the south (mainly in the Carribean and in Louisiana).

In freedom cry one of the side activities is raiding slave convoys and freeing the slaves on the ships (never damage the ship carrying slaves or you may kill some) and it takes place around Haiti and the city of Port Au Prince.

In Liberation they touch on slavery and there are some missions to free slaves but it’s not nearly as in your face as it was in Freedom Cry. I have a feeling Ubi will eventually be looking at a civil war era one but they may be doing so carefully given the potential for backlash.

290 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 2:21:05pm

re: #286 CuriousLurker

{{HW}}

Thanks, really I’m tired of bigotry. I don’t care if it’s a Christian directing it at a Muslim, a Muslim at a Jew, a Jew at a Hindu, or Atheist at any believer. I want people to understand that we’re all sharing this world. We may not always agree on everything or look alike but we’ve got an obligation to those who come after us to make the world a better place to live. And I don’t care if your God’s name is Allah, God, or if he has no name at all. If you treat me right, I’ll treat you right.

291 goddamnedfrank  Sep 29, 2014 2:21:30pm

re: #267 CuriousLurker

For the record, I’m not exaggerating. That’s what she actually says in the post Mediaite links to:

[Embedded image]

It’s not ALL Muslims, just the observant ones. See? She’s not a hateful bigot, she just a patriotic truth telling humanitarian trying to protect the innocent. //

I’m more than willing admit that there is a problem with Middle East culture. But I also have to put that in context, how new are the ideals of the modern industrialized, democratic West? Pretty new. Just fifty to a hundred years ago we were justifying all kinds of horrible, misogynistic, bigoted shit. Many of us still are. I see the same issues, to varying degrees in India, Africa, and pretty much everywhere else that hasn’t developed as rapidly as the West has.

So who exactly is the outlier here? I do think there is a problem that the “Islamic World” has yet to effectively confront, and it’s a huge one. But I also think that it’s symptomatic of a larger phenomenon, and not intrinsically rooted in Islam itself. I also think that the West, as it were, holds a lot of blame for the regional exploitation that has provided a ton of fuel to this fire. The fact that this exploitation and intervention has fallen largely on muslim countries has gone a long way towards pushing this population towards radicalism.

292 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 2:21:45pm

re: #289 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

They kind of poke fun at the idea of doing a WWII one in some of the things you find in Assassin’s Creed: Black Flag. I get why they aren’t but it would be cool to see one done. In both this one (Assassin’s Creed: Liberation) and the expansion for Assassin’s Creed Black Flag (Freedom Cry) they definitely hit upon slavery and the slave trade in the south (mainly in the Carribean and in Louisiana).

In freedom cry one of the side activities is raiding slave convoys and freeing the slaves on the ships (never damage the ship carrying slaves or you may kill some) and it takes place around Haiti and the city of Port Au Prince.

In Liberation they touch on slavery and there are some missions to free slaves but it’s not nearly as in your face as it was in Freedom Cry. I have a feeling Ubi will eventually be looking at a civil war era one but they may be doing so carefully given the potential for backlash.

I think my brother’s going to love this. Like me, he’s a huge historical buff. He loves the series.

293 CuriousLurker  Sep 29, 2014 2:23:50pm

re: #290 HappyWarrior

Thanks, really I’m tired of bigotry. I don’t care if it’s a Christian directing it at a Muslim, a Muslim at a Jew, a Jew at a Hindu, or Atheist at any believer. I want people to understand that we’re all sharing this world. We may not always agree on everything or look alike but we’ve got an obligation to those who come after us to make the world a better place to live. And I don’t care if your God’s name is Allah, God, or if he has no name at all. If you treat me right, I’ll treat you right.

THIS.

294 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 2:25:58pm

Another thing. I am tired of seeing American Muslims have their loyalty to this country questioned. As a descendant of immigrants from Catholic nations, I know that my ancestors had their loyalty to their new nation doubted and they were told their loyalty was more to the Pope. So yes, this great great grandson of Ireland, Germany, and the former Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia welcomes sons and daughters of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, etc. Our strength is in our diversity and that’s not just for dining purposes.

295 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 29, 2014 2:27:09pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

I think my brother’s going to love this. Like me, he’s a huge historical buff. He loves the series.

I love history too, and some historical fiction, which is one of the reasons I’ve really fallen in love with the series (along with the sci-fi elements, secret organizations/societies, ancient aliens and everything else). I was really impressed with the attention to details they put into these games (for example having the mohawk language/culture used in Assassin’s Creed 3).

Added bonus in Liberation, at one point you take a whip away from and overseer and get to use is against enemies and the overseer.

296 CuriousLurker  Sep 29, 2014 2:29:43pm

re: #291 goddamnedfrank

I’m more than willing admit that there is a problem with Middle East culture. But I also have to put that in context, how new are the ideals of the modern industrialized, democratic West? Pretty new. Just fifty to a hundred years ago we were justifying all kinds of horrible, misogynistic, bigoted shit. Many of us still are. I see the same issues, to varying degrees in India, Africa, and pretty much everywhere else that hasn’t developed as rapidly as the West has.

So who exactly is the outlier here? I do think there is a problem that the “Islamic World” has yet to effectively confront, and it’s a huge one. but I also think that it’s symptomatic of a larger phenomenon, and not intrinsically rooted in Islam itself. I also think that the West, as it were, holds a lot of blame for the regional exploitation that has provided a ton of fuel to this fire. The fact that this exploitation and intervention has fallen largely on muslim countries has gone a long way towards pushing this population towards radicalism.

That’s pretty much what I was talking about, or at least hinting at, the other day. The path that the modern industrialized, democratic West took to get where it’s at today is covered in centuries of brutality, tears & blood. People too often conveniently forget that.

297 Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2014 2:29:57pm

re: #273 William Barnett-Lewis

I have a 1904 Elgin 14 jewel that my great gf put in an 14k (IIRC) case that I wear occasionally. It keeps time well.

My late father had a Hamilton Electric 500 - I believe it was a Ventura. Sadly, he lost it sometime in the late 1980s, and never did find it.

298 HappyWarrior  Sep 29, 2014 2:30:36pm

re: #295 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I love history too, and some historical fiction, which is one of the reasons I’ve really fallen in love with the series (along with the sci-fi elements, secret organizations/societies, ancient aliens and everything else). I was really impressed with the attention to details they put into these games (for example having the mohawk language/culture used in Assassin’s Creed 3).

Added bonus in Liberation, at one point you take a whip away from and overseer and get to use is against enemies and the overseer.

I really need to catch up. I really enjoy the series. I’m a big stealth game fan- favorite series of all time is the Metal Gear series. I love the idea of using the whip against the overseer. Sounds very Django Unchainedesque.

299 goddamnedfrank  Sep 29, 2014 2:39:48pm

re: #296 CuriousLurker

That’s pretty much what I was talking about, or at least hinting at, the other day. The path that the modern industrialized, democratic West took to get where it’s at today is covered in centuries of tears & blood. People too often conveniently forget that.

It’s super easy to forget. I’m half forgetting it right now, as I sit here and talk about it on a Apple MBP in Starbucks, drinking an iced coffee and notably not thinking about how my country’s resources are being stolen by foreign powers to prop up a totalitarian monarchy. Imagine if that shit was in your face, fucking every day, and outside all you had was a million fucking degree hot desert hellscape. I don’t care how many modern luxuries a person has, it’d be a miracle for them not to be enraged and throwing their poop all the time in that environment.

300 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 29, 2014 2:41:52pm

re: #298 HappyWarrior

I really need to catch up. I really enjoy the series. I’m a big stealth game fan- favorite series of all time is the Metal Gear series. I love the idea of using the whip against the overseer. Sounds very Django Unchainedesque.

It comes in handy for doing some Indiana Jones style swinging over wide ledges as well. I highly recommend playing all the way through. Assassin’s creed 3 ends the Desmond Miles chapter but the overall story arc is still ongoing (and will make a comeback in the new one due out in November).

If you like stealthy then you will love the new stuff they’ve added in Assassin’s Creed 3 and up. You can hide in bushes and just around corners (not just haystacks and stalls) and use a whistle ability to lure guards to you.

Black Flag was the hardest not because the game was hard but just because it was a blast sailing around on your ship and raiding other ships.

301 RexMundi  Sep 29, 2014 3:52:02pm

Come on, everyone knows that policeman’s name, it’s Schulllllllllllltz!

302 Floral Giraffe  Sep 29, 2014 6:10:24pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

It seems like the Ferguson PD really do believe they are above the law.

I’ve heard of individual cops like that, but never an entire department.

They say fuck you to the FBI, fuck you to the DOJ, fuck you to the media and fuck you to people of Ferguson.

Who is left to stop them?

The Department of Justice is all I know of….

303 lostlakehiker  Sep 29, 2014 9:38:08pm

Who is left to stop them? DOJ, of course. This cannot be allowed to stand.


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