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Whack-A-Mole  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:03:01pm

I have to say, that instrument is, by far, the coolest thing I have seen today. And he plays it beautifully.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:03:50pm
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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:06:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:06:52pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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He showed up unannounced and disrupted everything when the volunteers were pushed aside to wait until he was finished with his photo op.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:08:09pm

New feature in the sticky top menu! It now has the same drop-down menu that appears in your “logged in” panel. Just click your user icon, and BAM. There are all your options as a registered user. No more need to scroll up to the top of the page to get at them.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:09:28pm
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Nyet  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:11:09pm

I contemplated whether or not to post this because it links to the extremely problematic Loonwatch website, but in the end it contains interesting info:

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:13:36pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

New feature in the sticky top menu! It now has the same drop-down menu that appears in your “logged in” panel. Just click your user icon, and BAM. There are all your options as a registered user. No more need to scroll up to the top of the page to get at them.

Constant improvements to a great website provided ad-free for a subscription that costs less than a quarter a day. Take note lurkers!

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:15:56pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:18:38pm
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A Cranky One  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:18:45pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

New feature in the sticky top menu! It now has the same drop-down menu that appears in your “logged in” panel. Just click your user icon, and BAM. There are all your options as a registered user. No more need to scroll up to the top of the page to get at them.

Why do I get this mental image of Charles riffing on a keyboard hanging from a guitar strap? ;-)

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Moebym  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:22:32pm

I wonder how I’d never known of the existence of harp guitars until today. Anyhow, it has a lovely sound.

Back to politics:

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Nyet  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:23:34pm

I love the succinct wiki-summary of a particular white-people-riot:

Date April 26 - April 29, 2007
Location Tallinn, Estonia
Causes Reaction of ethnic Russian population to Soviet war memorial relocation
Goals Stop relocation of war memorial
Methods Widespread rioting, looting, assault, arson, protests, property damage
Result War memorial relocated to Tõnismägi
Casualties
Death(s) 1
Injuries 171
Arrested 1,000+

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Charles Johnson  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:28:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:29:21pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:30:09pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:33:09pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
It couldn’t be more obvious—or more false—that Mike Pence is being positioned as the sane alternative to a very impeachable Donald Trump
9:28 PM - 22 Feb 2017
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Good thing to keep in mind Indiana citizens were glad to see him leave his seat as Governor.

So, if Indiana doesn’t like him after electing him…America won’t like him either.

I hope Americans are not fooled by The Dunce Vice President.

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electrotek  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:33:47pm

This is one thing that gets to me about Pakistani society’s hypocritical outrage:

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:37:29pm
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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:39:06pm

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

Orange face, tiny white hands.

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:41:38pm
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Jay C  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:42:12pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

So the “Obama is behind all the protests” BS meme has moved from the Alex Jones fringe into stock GOP talking points already? Jeez - what these hacks won’t do to avoid their own constituents….

Though I was amused to see MItch McConnell discomfited by all those embarrassing questions at his meeting today: after taking enormous precautions to keep protesters at a distance, he still got a grilling from what looked like a presumably-friendly Republican audience (C of C?) . Which, I noticed, he still ducked, obfuscated, and/or ignored…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:42:50pm

A man in a chicken suit is among the Montana constituents protesting Sen. Steve Daines today for refusing to hold a town hall.

Constituents used a literal empty suit to protest Sen. Pat Toomey’s absence at a town hall event in Allentown, PA.

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scottslemmons  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:43:13pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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At this point, Pence is complicit in everything Trump has done. He should be impeached at the same time Trump is. If he knew what was happening, he was aiding and abetting criminal activity. If he didn’t know what was happening, he wasn’t doing his job, and should be kicked out for dereliction of his duties.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:44:02pm

re: #21 Kragar

You know, my few experiences with people being boundary-violating and creepy in public bathrooms have involved plain old dudes.

Some of whom were pretty insistent that they were straight.

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:44:13pm

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:48:56pm

PBS & NPR are 0.014% of the budget. Like of you make $50,000/yr you would save $7.

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Whack-A-Mole  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:50:37pm

This has to have some heads exploding tonight:

Federal Appeals Court says AR-15s are NOT Constitutionally Protected

The Heller Court had ruled that “weapons that are most useful in military service - M-16 rifles and the like - may be banned.” The Fourth Circuit picks up that language and runs with it, judging that the semiautomatic AR-15 retains key military characteristics that make the M-16 a “devastating and lethal weapon of war” and that the AR-15 can likewise be banned. “Simply put,” the Court ruled, “AR-15-type rifles are ‘like’ M16 rifles under any standard definition of that term.”

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:55:15pm

re: #28 Whack-A-Mole

A thousand letters about how badly terroristic deer will damage the nation’s pasturelands unless controlled by AR-15 equipped hunters are being typed right now.

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electrotek  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:56:47pm

Delusions of grandeur

Facebook Post

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:57:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:57:11pm

re: #18 electrotek

This is one thing that gets to me about Pakistani society’s hypocritical outrage:

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I hate to play ignorant American but I very much most Americans know the ethnic differences that do exist in Pakistan/Afghanistan.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:59:06pm

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

PBS & NPR are 0.014% of the budget. Like of you make $50,000/yr you would save $7.

Republicans are the people who tell you that you have a spending problem but don’t tell you to cut out the cigarettes that you buy once every other day but not to buy that inexpensive toy that you saw that you thought your kid or grandkid would like.

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William Lewis  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:59:28pm

re: #6 Timothy Watson

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#White Rose #Resistance.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:59:39pm

re: #30 electrotek

Delusions of grandeur

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Poor snowflake.

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Whack-A-Mole  Feb 22, 2017 • 6:59:56pm

re: #29 jaunte

A thousand letters about how badly terroristic deer will damage the nation’s pasturelands unless controlled by AR-15 equipped hunters are being typed right now.

No doubt. Meanwhile, Wayne LaPierre and his NRA cohorts gleefully chortle and rub their hands together at the prospect of another gun panic windfall.

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:00:43pm

re: #16 FormerDirtDart

That Trevor Project website made me cry. I donated.

Every day, every single freaking day, I hate Trump more and more. Asking with his fellow Horribles… Those Republican elected jackasses.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:02:41pm
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electrotek  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:03:10pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

I hate to play ignorant American but I very much most Americans know the ethnic differences that do exist in Pakistan/Afghanistan.

To cut it short, Pakistani society sees Afghan refugees as scapegoats for everything wrong that happens in the country.

Terrorist attack? Blame Afghans, of course!
Drug addicts? Afghans!
Pedophilia? Afghan refugees!

What’s the solution? Kick ‘em all out back to the border! While claiming to be the ‘torchbearers’ of Islam and pontificating over Palestine and Myanmar.

They’re such vile hypocrites it makes me gag.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:03:18pm

re: #38 jaunte

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Sorry Gordon but they’ve stuck with him this long, he’s their man.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:03:56pm

“Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment,” he said. “By the way, and if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:05:13pm

re: #39 electrotek

To cut it short, Pakistani society sees Afghan refugees as scapegoats for everything wrong that happens in the country.

Terrorist attack? Blame Afghans, of course!
Drug addicts? Afghans!
Pedophilia? Afghan refugees!

What’s the solution? Kick ‘em all out back to the border! While claiming to be the ‘torchbearers’ of Islam and pontificating over Palestine and Myanmar.

They’re such vile hypocrites it makes me gag.

I’m sure of it. TBH there’s a lot of ugly racism in a lot of groups. Eastern Europeans and the Romani people comes to mind for me. I’m not Romani but I’m descended from a minority group within the Slovak Republic and I no doubt with Irish Catholic heritage had family long ago that suffered under the Penal Laws.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:06:24pm

re: #41 jaunte

“Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment,” he said. “By the way, and if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.”

And the gun nuts bought that crap even though he has no record at all having done anything to protect the 2nd amendment. I said it during the Obama years but Obama had a better Pro 2A record than Reagan but Obama was s scary black guy for Chicago and not the beloved Gipper.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:07:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:07:45pm
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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:08:04pm

re: #41 jaunte

Such a vile man!

Damn you Electoral College, damn you to hell!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:08:11pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

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Yep.

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:08:27pm

re: #30 electrotek

Screw grandeur. Delusions of competency

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Myron Falwell  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:08:29pm

One of my biggest pet peeves. Trump wasn’t elected, he was SELECTED. The more people say this, the more it gets under his Oompa Loompa spray tan.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:10:06pm

Usually I enjoy The Nib but this cartoon is really very fucking stupid. It belongs on The Intercept.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:10:29pm

re: #49 Myron Falwell

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One of my biggest pet peeves. Trump wasn’t elected, he was SELECTED. The more people say this, the more it gets under his Oompa Loompa spray tan.

I heard Price on NPR on the way home today. Seemed like an intelligent guy.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:11:35pm

re: #17 ObserverArt

Good thing to keep in mind Indiana citizens were glad to see him leave his seat as Governor.

So, if Indiana doesn’t like him after electing him…America won’t like him either.

I hope Americans are not fooled by The Dunce Vice President.

Mike Pence: the worst politician to come out of Indiana since Dan Quayle.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:12:04pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

None of them are fit for the office and, under any other competent government, would be impeached and arrested.

In fact, there is no elected Republican I can think of that isn’t derelict of his/her duty to uphold the Constitution. They all should be arrested and frog marched down the streets of Washington DC.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:15:21pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:17:00pm
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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:18:20pm

Anybody else watching the DNC chair debate?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:19:11pm

re: #56 BeachDem

Anybody else watching the DNC chair debate?

Nope. Who are you liking? I’m pissed beyond pissed that the BoBers are making it Ellison or bust.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:19:24pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:21:09pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:21:26pm

re: #58 jaunte

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Hey dumbass, maybe actually look to see that you’re doing the right thing rather than liberals being pissed off you chode magnet. I bet you would have a gasket if someone said the same thing about conservatives being pissed off but wait a minute you guys are always pissed off about something. Must be that giant stick in your asses that you guys have had for decades.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:21:57pm

re: #59 Unshaken Defiance

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I know mid-terms haven’t been good to us in recent years but I have a good feeling about 2018’s.

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:24:23pm
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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:25:11pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

Nope. Who are you liking? I’m pissed beyond pissed that the BoBers are making it Ellison or bust.

I don’t know—It’s hard to be totally objective because I know and like Jaime Harrison (but I don’t think he has much of a chance)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:25:40pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

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Silly me for thinking that these people actually might find some joy now that Trump is President.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:26:40pm

re: #58 jaunte

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McDaniel—what. an. asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:27:20pm

re: #63 BeachDem

I don’t know—It’s hard to be totally objective because I know and like Jaime Harrison (but I don’t think he has much of a chance)

Need to learn more about him. I honestly don’t have a big dog in the fight. I just want someone who can emphasize local elections, be good at raising money, and help shape our party platform for the positive. It infuriates me to see Perez being made out to be this bad guy. Really pisses me off to see the BoBers making the DNC chair race a referendum on whether you supported Bernie or not.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:27:23pm

re: #58 jaunte

Sen. Chris McDaniel @senatormcdaniel
When liberals are angry, I’m satisfied. It means we are heading in the RIGHT direction.
8:18 PM - 22 Feb 2017
30 30 Retweets 72 72 likes

The whole GOP congress is showing their arrogance and the attitude they don’t work for anyone but the powerful.

Hell, they might as well go and do what they want and change the voting laws and limit voting to the top 2% in income and the rest of us have to face the fact we have no representation.

So, don’t give us that bullshit that it is even about liberals anymore. You’re shitting on your own backers now too.

It can’t be any clearer America. You don’t fucking count. If you want to count again then you need to seriously consider dumping Republican politicians everywhere.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:27:47pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

I know mid-terms haven’t been good to us in recent years but I have a good feeling about 2018’s.

I’m actually shocked to read just how much Tom “Boll Weevil” Cotton was publicly destroyed tonight by his constituents.

That being said, corrupt GOP wingnuts, please keep using the “SSSSSOOOORRRROOOOSSSSSSSS!!!” bellyaching act. Because it’s really making an impact.

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:27:49pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:28:36pm

re: #68 Myron Falwell

I’m actually shocked to read just how much Tom “Boll Weevil” Cotton was publicly destroyed tonight by his constituents.

That being said, corrupt GOP wingnuts, please keep using the “SSSSSOOOORRRROOOOSSSSSSSS!!!” bellyaching act. Because it’s really making an impact.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:28:38pm

re: #65 BeachDem

He literally doesn’t understand the meaning of the word.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:30:03pm

re: #71 jaunte

I’m really thrilled that we have Senators acting like wingnuts on Twitter.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:30:07pm

So Rubio who benefited from the TP atmosphere in 2010 isn’t showing up to town halls because of the “hostile atmosphere.” Oh you mean you don’t like your voters calling you out on your shit Marco? I’m sorry but I despise Rubio as much as I do Trump in many a way. I despise his vain attempts to try to appear hip and cool to younger voters while being as typically right wing as the rest of them. I despise that he got elected and nominated based off hatred of Obama. I despise that he is a lazy senator who clearly only sees the Senate as his meal ticket to the WH.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:30:31pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

Need to learn more about him. I honestly don’t have a big dog in the fight. I just want someone who can emphasize local elections, be good at raising money, and help shape our party platform for the positive. It infuriates me to see Perez being made out to be this bad guy. Really pisses me off to see the BoBers making the DNC chair race a referendum on whether you supported Bernie or not.

Yeah—I hate the BoB bullshit, and am trying not to hold it against Ellison, because he really never supported that. (Perez has really bad laryngitis tonight, so he’s having trouble getting his points across.)

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:30:33pm

She has since nuked her whole Twitter account.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:30:48pm

re: #71 jaunte

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He literally doesn’t understand the meaning of the word.

That would mean the same for us dodohead.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:31:35pm

re: #74 BeachDem

Yeah—I hate the BoB bullshit, and am trying not to hold it against Ellison, because he really never supported that. (Perez has really bad laryngitis tonight, so he’s having trouble getting his points across.)

Yeah I don’t hold it against Keith at all either. It’s just frustrating to see them turning it into that. I think all these candidates have something to offer.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:31:38pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:31:58pm

re: #58 jaunte

re: #71 jaunte

They have the equivalent of mad cow disease. Literally. His brain is nowhere to be found.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:32:07pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

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She has since nuked her whole Twitter account.

OFFS.

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:32:21pm

re: #71 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:32:29pm

Their whole ideology is if it pisses off liberals, they’re for or against it.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:33:44pm

re: #71 jaunte

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He literally doesn’t understand the meaning of the word.

Heh—you are correct. (and he is still. an. asshole. Now a bigger one than ever)

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:34:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:35:07pm

McDaniel is the scumbag who had his campaign staffers go into the nursing home to harass Thad Cochran’s sick wife isn’t he including one Rage Furby. God knows I’d never vote for Thad Cochran but that was just about one of the most messed up things one could do to one’s primary opponent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:37:39pm
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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:38:47pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hope they rot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:38:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:39:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:39:41pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:39:59pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pointlessly cruel.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:40:02pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t hold it against Keith at all either. It’s just frustrating to see them turning it into that. I think all these candidates have something to offer.

Pekarski had a good answer about voter ID (he’s a lawyer)

Sally Brown (Idaho state chair) was kinda dippy going on about the federal government being too big.

Jaime Harrison gave a good answer about local focus, and also about saying that the Republicans claim family values but are full of shit (paraphrase on my part) and about sanctuary cities.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:40:45pm

This made my night.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:40:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:41:35pm

re: #92 BeachDem

Pekarski had a good answer about voter ID (he’s a lawyer)

Sally Brown (Idaho state chair) was kinda dippy going on about the federal government being too big.

Jaime Harrison gave a good answer about local focus, and also about saying that the Republicans claim family values but are full of shit (paraphrase on my part) and about sanctuary cities.

Cool, thanks.

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plansbandc  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:42:02pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Perfect description of the Trumpian way. Felt the same way about them taking away Trans student guidelines.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:42:21pm

re: #93 Myron Falwell

This made my night.

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Have I mentioned lately how much I despise Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III?

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:42:38pm

We’d like him back here too!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:43:05pm

re: #96 plansbandc

Perfect description of the Trumpian way. Felt the same way about them taking away Trans student guidelines.

Yes, that too. Fucking right wing assholes have made a good amount of people think transgendered people are sexual predators.

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EPR-radar  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:43:31pm

re: #79 Myron Falwell

They have the equivalent of mad cow disease. Literally. His brain is nowhere to be found.

Absolutely. Decades ago Republicans cannibalized extensively from the racist establishment of the Jim Crow South.

The resulting prion disease is entering its terminal stage now, with no Republican elected official capable of anything resembling rational thought.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:43:41pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Lemme’ guess. His name is “Sherman.”

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:43:46pm

Scratch Sam Ronan (whoever the hell he is) from DNC contention—he sounds like a BoBer.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:44:11pm

re: #98 JordanRules

We’d like him back here too!

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Sounds like the catch for a sitcom. “He was President of the United States and he was enjoying his retirement in France.” “Hey there’s no law that says he can’t be President of France!” And then comedy hijinks ensue.

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Moebym  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:44:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:45:00pm

re: #100 EPR-radar

Absolutely. Decades ago Republicans cannibalized extensively from the racist establishment of the Jim Crow South.

The resulting prion disease is entering its terminal stage now, with no Republican elected official capable of anything resembling rational thought.

They love to say BUT BULL CONNOR AND GEORGE WALLACE WERE DEMS. And yes, they were but there’s a reason why so many Southern politicians and voters became Republicans.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:45:28pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Have I mentioned lately how much I despise Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III?

He made Fucking B. DeVos look like a sympathetic figure by comparison. JFC.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:46:20pm

re: #102 BeachDem

Scratch Sam Ronan (whoever the hell he is) from DNC contention—he sounds like a BoBer.

Fairly young guy who is a vet I believe. I read a small profile on him and he was doing the usual the Dems have lost the working class thing. Honestly, I want someone with the balls to admit that the we didn’t abandon the white working class, many of them abandoned us because they didn’t like our all inclusive message.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:46:39pm

re: #106 Myron Falwell

He made Fucking B. DeVos look like a sympathetic figure by comparison. JFC.

Yep.

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scottslemmons  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:46:52pm

re: #100 EPR-radar

Absolutely. Decades ago Republicans cannibalized extensively from the racist establishment of the Jim Crow South.

The resulting prion disease is entering its terminal stage now, with no Republican elected official capable of anything resembling rational thought.

The big problem is that the disease has infected the vast majority of Republicans, not just legislators, congressmen, and pundits. Even if we managed to clear out Trump and his entire administration, there are still a quarter of the population who have eels squirming around in their heads.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:47:46pm

re: #109 scottslemmons

The big problem is that the disease has infected the vast majority of Republicans, not just legislators, congressmen, and pundits. Even if we managed to clear out Trump and his entire administration, there are still a quarter of the population who have eels squirming around in their heads.

Yep including some friends of mine sigh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:48:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:50:19pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fucking Hannity was MC of a Trump rally wasn’t he? Thou doth protest too much old Siren boy.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:50:28pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Fairly young guy who is a vet I believe. I read a small profile on him and he was doing the usual the Dems have lost the working class thing. Honestly, I want someone with the balls to admit that the we didn’t abandon the white working class, many of them abandoned us because they didn’t like our all inclusive message.

Absolutely!!

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:51:36pm

Only 1,038 tweets and I’ll have tweeted 20,000 times. What have I done with my life?

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:51:48pm

Jaime just shot down the little twit, Ronan about “it was rigged against Bernie” by explaining what the word “rigged” means. Jehmu Greene is a good speaker and explains things well.

Keith said he is the unity candidate because he supported Bernie and Hillary.

The Idaho twit is a a twit—really pushing open primaries and says that as a party leader she shouldn’t express an opinion about candidates or some such crap (she sounds like a BoBer as well.)

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:52:11pm

Slick Tom Cotton.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:52:18pm

re: #113 JordanRules

Absolutely!!

And here’s the other thing, minority working class voters still strongly support the Democratic Party. Yes, we did lose many of the white ones but I really think that’s because the Republican Party over the past near 50 years has convinced them that their resentments rather than their dreams are what they should be voting on.

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Moebym  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:52:54pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:53:16pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The comments are fucking horrifying. Almost as bad as what we are doing to that woman.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:53:36pm

re: #115 BeachDem

Jaime just shot down the little twit, Ronan about “it was rigged against Bernie” by explaining what the word “rigged” means. Jehmu Greene is a good speaker and explains things well.

Keith said he is the unity candidate because he supported Bernie and Hillary.

The Idaho twit is a a twit—really pushing open primaries and says that as a party leader she shouldn’t express an opinion about candidates or some such crap (she sounds like a BoBer as well.)

Goddamn I am so sick of the BoBers.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:53:56pm

re: #118 Moebym

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:55:35pm

re: #119 Scottish Dragon

The comments are fucking horrifying. Almost as bad as what we are doing to that woman.

I always hate reading the stories on immigration because people are so cruel. There’s no empathy. There’s no what if that was me or someone I love. Who cares if they came illegally. They’re fucking human beings.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:56:05pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Fairly young guy who is a vet I believe. I read a small profile on him and he was doing the usual the Dems have lost the working class thing. Honestly, I want someone with the balls to admit that the we didn’t abandon the white working class, many of them abandoned us because they didn’t like our all inclusive message.

Ronan is coming across as an asshole (and he’s wearing a Rick Santorum vest.) Where did he come from anyway? He’s very annoying.

The mayor from Indiana (I know you like him) is pretty impressive.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:57:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:58:08pm

re: #123 BeachDem

Ronan is coming across as an asshole (and he’s wearing a Rick Santorum vest.) Where did he come from anyway? He’s very annoying.

The mayor from Indiana (I know you like him) is pretty impressive.

I dunno. I think he’s even younger than I am. Yeah, ObserverArt told me about the South Bend Mayor, I like what you’re telling me about Harrison too. What I liked about Mayor Pete when I saw him on Todd is that he was able to talk about appealing to working class voters without the Democrats are to blame for those voters defecting crap but rather talking about our positions in a better way.

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electrotek  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:58:49pm

Bigoted Iraqi Christian lady had to be told:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 7:59:21pm

re: #124 jaunte

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Myron Falwell  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:00:36pm

re: #109 scottslemmons

The big problem is that the disease has infected the vast majority of Republicans, not just legislators, congressmen, and pundits. Even if we managed to clear out Trump and his entire administration, there are still a quarter of the population who have eels squirming around in their heads.

What’s distressing is that there’s isn’t anything that can really be done about it… that isn’t 110% unconstitutional. We can’t forbid them from voting or running for office. :(

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:01:50pm
An undocumented immigrant diagnosed with a brain tumor while under Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) custody was returned to a detention center from a Texas hospital, her lawyers said.

The woman, a Salvadoran national identified only as Sara, was released from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth, Texas, and taken to Prairieland Detention Center against her will, according to her lawyers.

“She told us they tied her hands and ankles in her condition,” Melissa Zuniga, a member of Sara’s legal team, told The Hill. “She’s complaining of a lot of pain.”
thehill.com

Remember this story when ICE employees start complaining about people being rude.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:02:11pm

Listen I agree with those who say we need to appeal better to the working class but I think it’s a cop out to say that’s all the Democrats fault. It pains me to say it being descended from that community but those communities for whatever reason do have a lot of racial, sexual, and gender resentments that more professional and educated groups do not.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:03:10pm

re: #128 Myron Falwell

What’s distressing is that there’s isn’t anything that can really be done about it… that isn’t 110% unconstitutional. We can’t forbid them from voting or running for office. :(

The best we can do is improve our educational system. There’s always going to be a right in this country but what we need to work for is a day when guys like Trump are the fringe right rather than the President.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:03:54pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

I dunno. I think he’s even younger than I am. Yeah, ObserverArt told me about the South Bend Mayor, I like what you’re telling me about Harrison too. What I liked about Mayor Pete when I saw him on Todd is that he was able to talk about appealing to working class voters without the Democrats are to blame for those voters defecting crap but rather talking about our positions in a better way.

Yeah—the mayor is impressive—smart, knows a lot, and seems to get it. He probably won’t win because not well known, but I think he’s going to have a bright future.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:04:21pm

re: #116 jaunte

Slick Tom Cotton.

Cotton is a literal boll weevil.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:05:56pm

BeachDem, the other thing that Pete does that I like is to want us make our officials more than just some abstract idea of elites. I actually ran into one of our state senators when I was getting ballot petitions signed for Perriello. You would have never known this woman was a state senator because she was totally casual and down to earth. She supports Northam but she happily signed for us too. And she was at the farmers market like anyone else looking for good food.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:07:07pm

re: #132 BeachDem

Yeah—the mayor is impressive—smart, knows a lot, and seems to get it. He probably won’t win because not well known, but I think he’s going to have a bright future.

Yeah I don’t think he’ll win either. I think it will be Tom or Keith but I’m hopeful Pete can use the moment from this to maybe run for higher office. He’ll have it tough in Indiana being openly gay but you know what, it’s a changing world and I think he’d embrace that challenge.

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:08:53pm
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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:10:43pm

Good point.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:11:35pm

re: #137 jaunte

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Good point.

He’s a truly terrible person in a party full of them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:12:09pm

re: #136 Kragar

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:12:18pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t think he’ll win either. I think it will be Tom or Keith but I’m hopeful Pete can use the moment from this to maybe run for higher office. He’ll have it tough in Indiana being openly gay but you know what, it’s a changing world and I think he’d embrace that challenge.

Heh==just as I read this, Pete mentioned being in a hunting blind with his boyfriend;s father.

Sally Boynton Brown looks and talks like Carrie Preston (but I love Carrie Preston and the twit from Idaho is annoying) And Ronan is whining away—he is even more annoying.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:12:28pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

I always hate reading the stories on immigration because people are so cruel. There’s no empathy. There’s no what if that was me or someone I love. Who cares if they came illegally. They’re fucking human beings.

The biggest difference between my family and theirs is that my family came before there were all these bloody hoops to jump through.

That’s it.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:13:07pm

What is it with all these chintzy, selfish mofos pretending to be Americans.

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:13:18pm

Miracle Of Birth Occurs For 83 Billionth Time | The Onion

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Nyet  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:14:36pm

re: #142 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:14:40pm

re: #141 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The biggest difference between my family and theirs is that my family came before there were all these bloody hoops to jump through.

That’s it.

Yep, well into the 30’s when my mom’s parents were children, a spouse could get naturalized once their spouse was naturalized. I think the same applied with children too. There’s a reason why I’ve had difficulty finding naturalization records for my family.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:15:36pm

re: #142 jaunte

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What is it with all these chintzy, selfish mofos pretending to be Americans.

Free stuff? Hey Joe, Mitt Romney is suing for plagiarism. Really use something original for once. We know that nothing is free. Unlike you and your goat fucking party we’re actually willing to pay for it.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:15:44pm

I mean, how many so called Christians have I seen on twitter telling defenders of refugees “maybe they can come and stay at your house?” As if that’s the most fearful prospect imaginable.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:16:12pm

Rank cowardice.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:16:36pm

re: #140 BeachDem

Heh==just as I read this, Pete mentioned being in a hunting blind with his boyfriend;s father.

Sally Boynton Brown looks and talks like Carrie Preston (but I love Carries Preston and the twit from Idaho is annoying) And Ronan is whining away—he is even more annoying.

He’s a Navy vet IIRC too. He’s really not that much older than Rohan. Don’t know what that guy’s deal is. I don’t know anything about Brown.

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electrotek  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:17:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:18:17pm

re: #148 jaunte

I mean, how many so called Christians have I seen on twitter telling defenders of refugees “maybe they can come and stay at your house?” As if that’s the most fearful prospect imaginable.

That one Congressman from Massachusetts, Seth Moulton, one of those wingnuts did that to him and he presented a photo of a refugee that he hosted. i would be willing to do that. Hell ancestors of old often hosted new comers. My only worry would be the language barrier but I’d go all I could to make them feel welcome.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:18:21pm

re: #126 electrotek

Bigoted Iraqi Christian lady had to be told:

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She’s wrong…but I would cut her some degree of slack. Christianity has been nearly exterminated in Iraq by both Sunni and Shia tribes and militias, and Christian Iraqi refugees are not going to be easily assured that everything is all good in the new neighborhood. I sure as fuck wouldn’t if I were one of them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:19:38pm

re: #151 jaunte

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You’re going after the most true to his word, Pope out there, assholes. And hey Catholic Trumpers, this is how your guy’s chief strategist thinks of the Pope as “bruh.” I may have my disagreements with the Pope but I show him actual respect, something that Breitbart never shows to those they disagree with.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:19:48pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

He’s a Navy vet IIRC too. He’s really not that much older than Rohan. Don’t know what that guy’s deal is. I don’t know anything about Brown.

Pete is 35! (Looks a lot younger—said people often confuse him with his interns.) Brown is Idaho state chair and seems like a twit. Jehmu Greene is really smart and well-spoken—ran Rock the Vote, so seems to have a good handle on youth vote.

Perez is saying some good stuff but he sounds so terrible because of the laryngitis, it’s hard to follow.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:20:42pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t think he’ll win either. I think it will be Tom or Keith but I’m hopeful Pete can use the moment from this to maybe run for higher office. He’ll have it tough in Indiana being openly gay but you know what, it’s a changing world and I think he’d embrace that challenge.

Wouldn’t it be something if he were to ascend to the governorship? Talk about karma getting its vengeance against Pence.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:21:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:21:33pm

re: #156 BeachDem

Pete is 35! (Looks a lot younger—said people often confuse him with his interns.) Brown is Idaho state chair and seems like a twit. Jehmu Greene is really smart and well-spoken—ran Rock the Vote, so seems to have a good handle on youth vote.

Perez is saying some good stuff but he sounds so terrible because of the laryngitis, it’s hard to follow.

Sounds good. Sucks about Perez not sounding so well. I really want to know what his message is since he’s probably the favorite at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:21:57pm

re: #157 Myron Falwell

Wouldn’t it be something if he were to ascend to the governorship? Talk about karma getting its vengeance against Pence.

Yep.

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:22:02pm

re: #142 jaunte

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calochortus  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:22:05pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

Yep, well into the 30’s when my mom’s parents were children, a spouse could get naturalized once their spouse was naturalized. I think the same applied with children too. There’s a reason why I’ve had difficulty finding naturalization records for my family.

The wife and children would be naturalized along with the husband/father. It didn’t work the other way around-women could lose their citizenship by marrying the citizen of another country. The names of your ancestors should appear on the man’s (your great grandfather?) naturalization papers.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:23:27pm

There was apparently a profile of Bro O’Rourke in the WaPo today. My Dad brought him up. Said he thinks he looks more like a Kennedy than the Kennedys themselves anymore and we both liked that Beto is a former musician. Can he defeat Cruz? I don’t know but he could be a decent candidate and you could run one of the Castro brothers against Abbott.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:25:03pm

re: #142 jaunte

One of those two “America’s” wants to know just when Deadbeat Joe Walsh is going to start paying his outstanding child support payments.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:27:13pm

re: #162 calochortus

The wife and children would be naturalized along with the husband/father. It didn’t work the other way around-women could lose their citizenship by marrying the citizen from another country. The names of your ancestors should appear on the man’s (your great grandfather?) naturalization papers.

Thanks. I have a documentation of the record for my second great grandfather but I can’t seem to find it even though I have the date it apparently happened and I have a rare surname. My one second great grandmother’s wife was already a citizen- American born when she married him. The Irish ones, I’ve found the records of naturalization for siblings but the direct line is tough because I have no idea where they were living when they would have been naturalized. We located the naturalization records at a library for my mom’s Eastern European grandfathers though. Hoping if I make it up to Cambria County one of these days, I’ll find that and make photo copies. Hoping that there’s a photo in tehre of my mom’s paternal grandfather- no photos of him.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:28:38pm

They just free stuff. From the people who are the first to complain when the schools aren’t the best, who complain about roads and public transit, etc. Maybe actually realize that taxation isn’t theft like you delude yourself into thinking and actually understand that not all tax hikes are bad.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:28:47pm

re: #151 jaunte

Many Branch Trumpidian Catholics hate Pope Francis for being a “socialist” so they won’t lift a finger at this.

It could be argued that Trump’s public attacks against Pope Francis last year cemented their support. Because fetuses and stuff.

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Moebym  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:29:50pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

This past presidential election was the triumph of the ultimate loser (Trump) over the ultimate goody-two-shoes (Clinton).

The “losers” of America were tired of always being made to feel ashamed for being “bad” or “wrong”, so they threw their support behind Trump, who represented the pinnacle of loserhood - a man who made his fortune on the backs of women and everyone else who opposed him, and didn’t care a whit about what was right or honorable.

Every time Clinton brought up Trump’s behavior as an admonition, his followers embraced him more tightly, because it was his “bad” behavior that they celebrated. They reveled in their misogyny, their racism, their rejection of facts, their violence, their meanness, their lack of political correctness - basically everything they’d been told was “wrong”.

They broke all the rules and burned all of the traditions to the ground without compunction, and shockingly, pulled out a victory against the candidate who represented everything they deeply resented - a highly-educated, intelligent woman who always bore herself well and had an unimpeachable work ethic.

This is why they feel they finally have the permission to behave as badly as they’d always wanted.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:30:17pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

He’s a Navy vet IIRC too. He’s really not that much older than Rohan. Don’t know what that guy’s deal is. I don’t know anything about Brown.

OMG—just read Ronan’s bio on his candidate page, and he is so fucking full of himself (having accomplished very little) it will make you barf. Also, he needs to either take a writing course or hire a copywriter—I stopped counting after the first 15 misspelled/misused words—i.e. he says he scored Suma Cum Lauda on the National Latin Exam in the 9th grade.)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:30:35pm

Hey though guys cool note on immigration and family. I got a message this evening from a woman that my mom and I both matched with on our tests. Our second great grandparents were siblings in Slovakia. She seemed very excited to be in touch and really wanted to know more about the family in Europe. Her family apparently left the area where so many Slovak immigrants left fairly early on. It was sweet to see someone so excited about a connection being made.

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calochortus  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:31:54pm

re: #165 HappyWarrior

Not knowing where they were living is a problem. I found my paternal grandfather’s naturalization petition only because the state of Washington has all that stuff online. The family moved a lot and I wouldn’t have known where to look or when if hadn’t just gotten lucky on that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:32:10pm

re: #169 BeachDem

OMG—just read Ronan’s bio on his candidate page, and he is so fucking full of himself (having accomplished very little) it will make you barf. Also, he needs to either take a writing course or hire a copywriter—I stopped counting after the first 15 misspelled/misused words—i.e. he says he scored Suma Cum Lauda on the National Latin Exam in the 9th grade.)

And that’s why my boss is all about QC. I admit I misspell words and misuse words at times but I try to make my professional work especially if I were applying for a job as professional as possible.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:33:07pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

And that’s why my boss is all about QC. I admit I misspell words and misuse words at times but I try to make my professional work especially if I were applying for a job as professional as possible.

It happens to everyone but yeah, there’s a level of proofreading that you have to commit to. And sometimes that means knowing when you can’t handle it yourself and asking someone else to look at it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:33:19pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Fairly young guy who is a vet I believe. I read a small profile on him and he was doing the usual the Dems have lost the working class thing. Honestly, I want someone with the balls to admit that the we didn’t abandon the white working class, many of them abandoned us because they didn’t like our all inclusive message.

Partly — but there were WWC who supported Obama and then voted for Trump because nothing really improved for them personally during the past 8 years. Trump lied and promised to bring back their old jobs; Clinton told them they had to learn new jobs. The question is who is easier to reach: the BoBers or the WWC

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:34:14pm

re: #174 Hecuba’s daughter

Partly — but there were WWC who supported Obama and then voted for Trump because nothing really improved for them personally during the past 8 years. Trump lied and promised to bring back their old jobs; Clinton told them they had to learn new jobs. The question is who is easier to reach: the BoBers or the WWC

I think I’m going for option c: the people who have previously been too [insert reason here] to vote.

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:34:28pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:34:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:35:45pm

re: #171 calochortus

Not knowing where they were living is a problem. I found my paternal grandfather’s naturalization petition only because the state of Washington has all that stuff online. The family moved a lot and I wouldn’t have known where to look or when if hadn’t just gotten lucky on that.

Yeah, this is really tough since I don’t know when naturalization would have happened and thus where. My Nana’s maternal grandfather emigrated from Ireland as a boy with his folks and his father has a really common name. I’d love to find that. I’ve had some good luck though. I did with the help of the Johnstown, Pa archdiocese locate a record with baptisms for a couple siblings born in the U.S that actually appear to have indicated where in Ireland his folks came from.

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:35:45pm

re: #143 teleskiguy

That doesn’t look like awe. It looks like ewww. 😁

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:36:06pm

re: #173 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It happens to everyone but yeah, there’s a level of proofreading that you have to commit to. And sometimes that means knowing when you can’t handle it yourself and asking someone else to look at it.

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:36:40pm

re: #174 Hecuba’s daughter

Partly — but there were WWC who supported Obama and then voted for Trump because nothing really improved for them personally during the past 8 years. Trump lied and promised to bring back their old jobs; Clinton told them they had to learn new jobs. The question is who is easier to reach: the BoBers or the WWC

True that.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:36:47pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

Exactly.

Just ask BeachDem about my issues with the word compliment/complement.

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William Lewis  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:36:49pm

re: #161 Kragar

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One believes in caring for their families.

The other believes in being dead beat dads.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:37:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:38:38pm

re: #182 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Just ask BeachDem about my issues with the word compliment/complement.

Those are the worst errors because spell check doesn’t catch them. You technically have the word spelled correctly and when you say it aloud, you don’t catch it either because they’re homophones too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:39:35pm

re: #184 jaunte

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:39:37pm
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Moebym  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:40:46pm

re: #187 Kragar

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:40:46pm

re: #187 Kragar

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You can secure the border without ICE going after people who are law abiding, you dog abuse raising pud.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:41:30pm

re: #187 Kragar

A liberal: someone who locks his door at night

There’s that “why don’t you invite refugees into YOUR house” sentiment again.

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Nyet  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:41:34pm

Pet peeve: affect/effect.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:41:38pm

re: #188 Moebym

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Seriously their whole ideology is “If I piss off liberals, I’m doing something right.” You do know that liberals also oppose genocide, right Huck and Chris? Don’t get any ideas now though because I will gladly kick both your asses if I need to.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:41:43pm

re: #188 Moebym

The right isn’t. Also, eschatology was doomed from the start.

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:42:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:42:58pm

re: #194 Kragar

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:43:07pm
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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:45:24pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

And that’s why my boss is all about QC. I admit I misspell words and misuse words at times but I try to make my professional work especially if I were applying for a job as professional as possible.

Just a few samples of his over-inflated opinion of himself:

His performance, eloquence, and good taste allotted him respect, admiration from those in attendance. (this was for being MC at a banquet)

Samuel Ronan embodies every tenant of the regular American Citizen! He is truly a man of the people, without having to put on a show. And apparently, spelling (it’s tenet, you twit) is optional.

The whole thing is laughably awful.

ronanfordnc.org

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:46:20pm

re: #191 Nyet

Pet peeve: affect/effect.

Science writing means I can generally get that one right.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:46:52pm

re: #197 BeachDem

Just a few samples of his over-inflated opinion of himself:

His performance, eloquence, and good taste allotted him respect, admiration from those in attendance. (this was for being MC at a banquet)

Samuel Ronan embodies every tenant of the regular American Citizen! He is truly a man of the people, without having to put on a show. And apparently, spelling (it’s tenet, you twit) is optional.

The whole thing is laughably awful.

ronanfordnc.org

You’d think that he would have someone look that over first.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:47:00pm

re: #173 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:47:20pm

re: #175 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think I’m going for option c: the people who have previously been too [insert reason here] to vote.

Maybe option d — help those who were deliberately disenfranchised in Republican states and see if we can restore their voting rights. There is going to be a town hall meeting led by the Cook County Clerk Thursday evening titled “Elections and How to Protect Voting Rights” which I am attending with several friends. Maybe they will have suggestions on combating voting obstacles in other states; for all its other problems, Illinois doesn’t have any substantial barriers to voting.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:48:42pm

re: #200 BeachDem

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:48:59pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Those are the worst errors because spell check doesn’t catch them. You technically have the word spelled correctly and when you say it aloud, you don’t catch it either because they’re homophones too.

Stationery. Stationary. Gotta watch that one.

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:49:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:49:21pm

re: #203 retired cynic

Stationery. Stationary. Gotta watch that one.

Good one.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:50:38pm

re: #204 MsJ

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So does Sheriff Clarke ever actually sheriff or is he too busy being a wingnut celeb? By the way, Mel Blount rocks the cowboy hat much better. He’s also a hell of a horsesman.
en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:51:15pm

re: #191 Nyet

Pet peeve: affect/effect.

Tow/toe the line

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Nyet  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:52:46pm

re: #207 jaunte

Here, here! Hear, hear!

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Moebym  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:53:11pm

re: #204 MsJ

Trying to compensate for some perceived weakness, probably.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:53:17pm

re: #196 jaunte

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It’s the House that doesn’t care and is killing the resolution. Any investigation is going to start in the Senate, where a few Republicans may actually be concerned.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:53:18pm

re: #197 BeachDem

What on earth are his qualifications for heading up a national political party???

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:53:27pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

So does Sheriff Clarke ever actually sheriff or is he too busy being a wingnut celeb? By the way, Mel Blount rocks the cowboy hat much better. He’s also a hell of a horsesman.
en.wikipedia.org

Bests me. Is he still sheriff? Damn good question.

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Nyet  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:53:49pm

So Assange heats up the old moldy borshch in the microwave and serves it to the wingnuts who lap it up.

Russians get McCain donor letter in mix-up

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:53:50pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:54:14pm

Thread, start here.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:55:09pm

re: #209 Moebym

Trying to compensate for some perceived weakness, probably.

Makes him stand out in a Wisconsin crowd. “Oh, that black guy in a cowboy hat.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:55:11pm

re: #215 Stanley Sea

She’s having a night of it as a result:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:56:00pm

Clarke doesn’t seem to realize he’s the sheriff for all the people in his country.

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Moebym  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:56:18pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Seriously their whole ideology is “If I piss off liberals, I’m doing something right.” You do know that liberals also oppose genocide, right Huck and Chris? Don’t get any ideas now though because I will gladly kick both your asses if I need to.

It gets better…

This guy is rubbing our noses in shit and enjoying every minute…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:56:28pm

re: #216 retired cynic

Makes him stand out in a Wisconsin crowd. “Oh, that black guy in a cowboy hat.”

To be honest, in Wisconsin he doesn’t really need the cowboy hat for that. >.>

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:57:30pm

re: #219 Moebym

This guy is rubbing our noses in shit and enjoying every minute…

He’s the one who lives in Mississippi.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:57:37pm

re: #196 jaunte

I thought horribly of them before, I really did. But I guess it wasn’t low enough. Didn’t think the whole lot of them would sell out the country this easily to a foreign power.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:58:04pm

re: #214 MsJ

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Price’s seat would be one to definitely pursue hard. I know nothing about Georgia politics though but what caught my eye is Trump only won it by two points.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:58:21pm

re: #207 jaunte

Tow/toe the line

to/too/two — its/it’s — principle/principal

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:58:25pm

re: #222 JordanRules

They have a short horizon, short attention span, and are easily bought.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:58:39pm

re: #219 Moebym

It gets better…

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This guy is rubbing our noses in shit and enjoying every minute…

He sounds like Rage Furby.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:58:50pm

re: #219 Moebym

It gets better…

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This guy is rubbing our noses in shit and enjoying every minute…

Can’t wait to see him cry like a baby when his cause fails yet again.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:59:21pm

re: #220 klys (maker of Silmarils)

To be honest, in Wisconsin he doesn’t really need the cowboy hat for that. >.>

Makes him taller.

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:59:41pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Clarke doesn’t seem to realize he’s the sheriff for all the people in his country.

Not do any other Republicans. He ran as a dem, so he’s not even representing his supposed constituents.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:59:44pm

re: #222 JordanRules

I thought horribly of them before, I really did. But I guess it wasn’t low enough. Didn’t think the whole lot of them would sell out the country this easily to a foreign power.

I hear ya. Coming from a a historically Democratic family, I’ve never had much use for the GOP, but you know, I didn’t think that either.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 8:59:58pm

re: #226 retired cynic

He sounds like Rage Furby.

Well he did employ RF.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:00:01pm

The renowned Coolest Guy in the World is relaxing at home, for once. What a beautiful place, the color of the water in the background is mesmerizing.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:00:47pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

You’d think that he would have someone look that over first.

He fucking misspelled e pluribus unum.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:02:24pm

re: #232 Shiplord Kirel

The renowned Coolest Guy in the World is relaxing at home, for once. What a beautiful place, the color of the water in the background is mesmerizing.

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I love that guy. I was honored to go to a school named after Neil when I was a kid but our “rival” was named after Buzz and Buzz, who has taken a much different approach to his immortality than Neil did even visited the school. Buzz is truly an American original. He’s been on the moon, appeared on the Simpsons, Ali G, and even punched a moon landing deneir. I want to be like Buzz when I’m an old man. Enjoying life to the fullest.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:02:50pm

re: #161 Kragar

Mr. Walsh? You wouldn’t recognize freedom if it pissed on you.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:02:57pm

Russian diplomatic deaths trending

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:03:12pm

It is becoming more and more obvious on who is in charge of foreign policy in the Trump administration.

Bannon, Pence send contradictory messages to EU

Washington (CNN)White House strategist Steve Bannon described the European Union as a flawed institution to Germany’s US envoy a week before Vice President Mike Pence reaffirmed the US commitment to the EU in Brussels, two diplomatic sources with knowledge of the conversation told CNN.

Diplomats said that Pence’s message of reassurance fell flat on European officials who are concerned about contradictory messages from Washington regarding the future relationship between the US and the EU. And it adds to the list of subjects about which President Donald Trump and administration officials are confusing allies.

Bannon told Peter Witting, the German ambassador to the US, that the Trump administration wants to strengthen bilateral ties with individual European countries rather than deal with the entire bloc, the sources said.

In what was described as a “combative” conversation, the sources said Bannon spelled out a nationalist world view and cited a wave of anti-EU populism as evidence of the bloc’s flaws, a similar refrain to the one he had previously articulated as the chief of the right-wing website Breitbart News.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:03:28pm

re: #236 jaunte

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Russian diplomatic deaths trending

Sergey, coincidence or do you think something’s up here?

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:04:22pm

55 seems young for “natural causes.”

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:04:38pm

re: #203 retired cynic

Stationery. Stationary. Gotta watch that one.

principal/principle—Republicans seem to have a terrible time with that as well. And with apostrophes. And with analogies. And with basic human kindness and compassion. And…I could go on all night.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:04:59pm

re: #237 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

It is becoming more and more obvious on who is in charge of foreign policy in the Trump administration.

Bannon, Pence send contradictory messages to EU

You know, I bet the anti-EU stuff pisses them off as is but then you have Pence sending mixed messages. Sort of like how Trump publically runs away from the two state solution in Israel/Palestine but Haley is speaking in support of it. Jesus this shit is bad.

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Nyet  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:05:14pm

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Sergey, coincidence or do you think something’s up here?

CIA. //

Seriously though, suppose it’s not a coincidence, then what is it? I don’t see a common theme here.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:05:14pm

re: #240 BeachDem

principal/principle—Republicans seem to have a terrible time with that as well. And with apostrophes. And with analogies. And with basic human kindness and compassion. And…I could go on all night.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:06:07pm

re: #243 jaunte

White supremacy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:06:17pm

re: #242 Nyet

CIA. //

Seriously though, suppose it’s not a coincidence, then what is it? I don’t see a common theme here.

Yeah I’m just tired I guess. Probably just a heart attack honestly.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:06:44pm

re: #243 jaunte

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The Aristocrats.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:07:31pm

re: #207 jaunte

Tow/toe the line

Lead (as the past tense of lead). It’s LED. I see that in major newspapers all the time.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:07:41pm
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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:08:27pm

re: #211 retired cynic

What on earth are his qualifications for heading up a national political party???

Zero. Zip. Nada. (and that’s being kind.)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:09:22pm

Started that Sarajevo, 1914 but fell asleep watching it last night. Not sure how accurate the story is- protagonist is a Jewish convert to Protestantism police investigator who comes from Hungary or Croatia I believe so he’s at odds being an ethnic Jew and religious Protestant in a very Catholic dominated empire. Need to catch all of it though. I really like these historical dramas.

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Nyet  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:09:34pm

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m just tired I guess. Probably just a heart attack honestly.

It is true that lately there have been quite a lot of Russian diplomatic deaths - take Karlov’s murder in Turkey by an ISIS guy. But I don’t believe in evil CIA, MI6 and Mossad killing them, so what remains is a freak chain of unrelated deaths from causes natural and unnatural.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:09:44pm

re: #244 retired cynic

White supremacy.

George Grosz could have done a lot with these people.
google.com:

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:09:50pm

re: #241 HappyWarrior

You know, I bet the anti-EU stuff pisses them off as is but then you have Pence sending mixed messages. Sort of like how Trump publically runs away from the two state solution in Israel/Palestine but Haley is speaking in support of it. Jesus this shit is bad.

As was shown by the whole Michael Flynn fiasco, VP Pence isn’t much more than a guy who they trot out for public relations visits. He isn’t a part of Trump’s ‘inner circle’ who gets regular updates on what the direction of the administration is by any means.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:10:21pm

re: #249 BeachDem

Zero. Zip. Nada. (and that’s being kind.)

He honestly seems as qualified as I am and I definitely am not qualified to run my county’d Democratic Party. I’ve always said a wise man knows his limits hence why you’ll never see me seek office.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:10:52pm

re: #251 Nyet

I imagine it’s a pretty stressful life.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:11:03pm

re: #251 Nyet

It is true that lately there have been quite a lot of Russian diplomatic deaths - take Karlov’s murder in Turkey by an ISIS guy. But I don’t believe in evil CIA, MI6 and Mossad killing them, so what remains is a freak chain of unrelated deaths from causes natural and unnatural.

I was actually thinking internal but yeah. I think we just have a freak chain of unrelated deaths at the moment. People do die.

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Nyet  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:11:22pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:11:33pm

re: #242 Nyet

CIA. //

Seriously though, suppose it’s not a coincidence, then what is it? I don’t see a common theme here.

Vitaly Churkin’s autopsy is not complete; they are awaiting results of further tests. But it’s probably natural causes.

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Nyet  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:11:55pm

re: #256 HappyWarrior

I was actually thinking internal

And how would that make sense?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:11:57pm

re: #253 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

As was shown by the whole Michael Flynn fiasco, VP Pence isn’t much more than a guy who they trot out for public relations visits. He isn’t a part of Trump’s ‘inner circle’ who gets regular updates on what the direction of the administration is by any means.

I imagine the same is true with Haley. Haley and Pence are what you could call turd polishers while guys like Bannon, Miller, and formerly Flynn are the true believers who actually have Turmpy’s ear.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:12:00pm

“…The Air Force can’t account for $1 billion in savings that President Donald Trump said he’s negotiated for the program to develop, purchase and operate two new Boeing Co. jets to serve as Air Force One.

“To my knowledge I have not been told that we have that information,” Colonel Pat Ryder, an Air Force spokesman, told reporters Wednesday when asked how Trump had managed to reduce the price for the new presidential plane. “I refer you to the White House,” Ryder said. A White House spokesman didn’t respond to repeated inquiries about Trump’s comments. …”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:12:29pm

re: #257 Nyet

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What are compliments that I wouldn’t want for a 1000, Alex?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:13:17pm

re: #259 Nyet

And how would that make sense?

I thought I had read about Putin killing some people off from within. As I said, forget about it, I’m tired and had a long day at work today. Not thinking properly. Disregard what I said.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:13:28pm

re: #261 FormerDirtDart

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:15:52pm

re: #191 Nyet

Pet peeve: affect/effect.

re: #198 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Science writing means I can generally get that one right.

Erotic Romance editing means I generally get that right as well. (I got it write right before though.)

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Nyet  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:18:32pm

re: #263 HappyWarrior

I thought I had read about Putin killing some people off from within. As I said, forget about it, I’m tired and had a long day at work today. Not thinking properly. Disregard what I said.

Frankly, lots of evidence-free bullshit is being said about Putin, as if his real crimes (like usurping power and starting wars) were not enough. Churkin was a great Putinist asset.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:19:31pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:20:16pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick back in 2012 when he tacitly approves of young boys being raped by their female teachers, ‘cause we all know women can’t rape men, AMIRITE?!?

Donald Trump on Student Teacher Relations, Extra, 2012

@VicBergerIV made the video, uh, more fun.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:20:51pm

re: #266 Nyet

Frankly, lots of evidence-free bullshit is being said about Putin, as if his real crimes (like usurping power and starting wars) were not enough. Churkin was a great Putinist asset.

Right, I misspoke.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:21:06pm

re: #248 Joe Bacon

Let’s actually look at these statements:

“One believes in freedom.”
Yeah, that would be the Democrats - because they aren’t the ones who are advocating a removal of Freedom of Religion (persecution of an entire religion), Freedom of the Press (outright stating that the press is the enemy of America), unreasonable search and seizure, removal of voting rights of minorities - I can just go on and on with this.

“The other believes in free stuff.”
Who is it again who has used the White House as a platform to enrich his own name brand again, while in the process of outright selling of access to himself to the highest bidder?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:21:54pm

re: #268 teleskiguy

Fuckface Von Clownstick back in 2012 when he tacitly approves of young boys being raped by their female teachers, ‘cause we all know women can’t rape men, AMIRITE?!?

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God he’s a creep.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:22:35pm

re: #212 MsJ

Bests me. Is he still sheriff? Damn good question.

Yes he is still sheriff of Milwaukee County.
en.wikipedia.org.

I suspect an awful lot of people in Milwaukee County are actually glad he’s out of state on the Wingnut Welfare circuit; it might even be worth his paycheck for him to stay out of Minnesota to them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:24:28pm

re: #272 Anymouse

Yes he is still sheriff of Milwaukee County.
en.wikipedia.org.

I suspect an awful lot of people in Milwaukee County are actually glad he’s out of state on the Wingnut Welfare circuit; it might even be worth his paycheck for him to stay out of Minnesota to them.

Yeah given that people have died in his jails, I’d be happy to have him gone too. He’s worse than Arpaio in many ways.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:25:41pm

re: #272 Anymouse

Yes he is still sheriff of Milwaukee County.
en.wikipedia.org.

I suspect an awful lot of people in Milwaukee County are actually glad he’s out of state on the Wingnut Welfare circuit; it might even be worth his paycheck for him to stay out of Minnesota to them.

Sorry. Wisconsin.

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Nyet  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:26:56pm

re: #236 jaunte

This happened on Jan. 9 btw.

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:27:44pm

re: #270 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Let’s actually look at these statements:

“One believes in freedom.”
Yeah, that would be the Democrats - because they aren’t the ones who are advocating a removal of Freedom of Religion (persecution of an entire religion), Freedom of the Press (outright stating that the press is the enemy of America), unreasonable search and seizure, removal of voting rights of minorities - I can just go on and on with this.

“The other believes in free stuff.”
Who is it again who has used the White House as a platform to enrich his own name brand again, while in the process of outright selling of access to himself to the highest bidder?

Who wants to use taxpayer money for home schooling?

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:27:47pm

re: #236 jaunte

Dr. Jeffrey Pelt: Andrei… you’ve lost another submarine?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:29:13pm
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Single-handed sailor  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:29:41pm

re: #243 jaunte

American History X

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:29:43pm

Here’s the thing that honestly pisses me off the most about the trans bathroom issue. The right made this into an issue. They spread the idea that transgendered people are sex criminals at a much higher rate than the general population. And because of that they’ve inspired hate and violence against transpeople. Transgendered people have it tough as is.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:30:37pm

re: #279 FormerDirtDart

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God it would probably be a career ender if a Dem Congressman did it but how about introducing legislation to keep Republicans out of public bathrooms?

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:31:06pm

Four feet of snow in 48 hours on the upper reaches of Squaw Valley ski area. 252” base at the summit. Unreal.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:31:50pm

Police search for gunman after three people shot at Austins Bar and Grill in Olathe

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:31:53pm

re: #283 teleskiguy

Four feet of snow in 48 hours on the upper reaches of Squaw Valley ski area. 252” base at the summit. Unreal.

They said today that they’re planning to be open until July 4th at this point.

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:32:40pm

re: #283 teleskiguy

The nearest ski area from me has a 54” base.

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:33:30pm

re: #285 klys (maker of Silmarils)

They said today that they’re planning to be open until July 4th at this point.

I saw that.

Facebook Post

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:33:48pm

re: #281 HappyWarrior

Here’s the thing that honestly pisses me off the most about the trans bathroom issue. The right made this into an issue. They spread the idea that transgendered people are sex criminals at a much higher rate than the general population. And because of that they’ve inspired hate and violence against transpeople. Transgendered people have it tough as is.

Transgender people are thrown into the same pile as other groups conservatives need their voters to hate:

Liberals hate America (or the military, or want free stuff)
LGBT want special rights
Immigrants are taking your jobs
&c

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:34:04pm

re: #281 HappyWarrior

Special fuck you to Bill Maher on that note.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:34:19pm

re: #287 teleskiguy

Sadly the snow was not nearly this good the last time my parents were out this way to ski, the year I defended my thesis.

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:35:37pm

re: #290 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I wish I was in Jackson Hole this winter.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:37:30pm

re: #289 JordanRules

Special fuck you to Bill Maher on that note.

Yep fuck him for that seriously. I never liked him for the smug bullshit and anti-vaccine crap but he didn’t correct Milo at all on the anti-trans crap. And then the smug douchebag has the nerve to “take credit” for Milo’s downfall.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:38:14pm

re: #291 teleskiguy

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:38:49pm

re: #288 Anymouse

Transgender people are thrown into the same pile as other groups conservatives need their voters to hate:

Liberals hate America (or the military, or want free stuff)
LGBT want special rights
Immigrants are taking your jobs
&c

It’s so pathetic. And the base just ate it up. My one wingnut friend who I never knew to have any real problem with transpeople started posting Shapiro’s bullshit anti-trans screeds. Needless to say, I stopped following him on FB since every day was some kind of bitchfest at someone for not conforming to his standards for gender identity.

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:42:00pm

re: #293 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I need new boots. I’ve already replaced three buckles and a cant bolt since I bought them. And the inside side of them are worn all to fuck. Freeheel skiing, if done correctly, destroys boots. 😐

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:47:54pm

re: #282 HappyWarrior

God it would probably be a career ender if a Dem Congressman did it but how about introducing legislation to keep Republicans out of public bathrooms?

If rather see legislation to keep Republicans out of public office. They are too much a danger to communities. 😁

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:48:17pm

re: #254 HappyWarrior

He honestly seems as qualified as I am and I definitely am not qualified to run my county’d Democratic Party. I’ve always said a wise man knows his limits hence why you’ll never see me seek office.

I think you’re selling yourself short in your comparison to that twit!

You are way smarter and better “spoken.”

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prairiefire  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:49:01pm

re: #280 Single-handed sailor

American History X

I am seeing far too many likes for “American X” on Facebook, too much alt right likes!

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:49:12pm

re: #294 HappyWarrior

It’s so pathetic. And the base just ate it up. My one wingnut friend who I never knew to have any real problem with transpeople started posting Shapiro’s bullshit anti-trans screeds. Needless to say, I stopped following him on FB since every day was some kind of bitchfest at someone for not conforming to his standards for gender identity.

When James O’Keefe came out with his edited Planned Parenthood videos, the news about them (but not the debunking) was an instant hit here. Constant pushing in the paper and on the local FOX station about “baby parts.”

I went into the store in Sidney where I usually buy cigarettes, and out of the blue the owner launches into a hatefest about Planned Parenthood selling baby parts. (Our nearest Planned Parenthood is in Cheyenne, over 120 miles away.)

I tried to push back against the nonsense, but the store owner was convinced: It had been on television, the radio, and in newspapers. Everything covering the story here was “Planned Parenthood accused of selling baby parts.” Who would the person believe, one Democrat from sixty miles away, or the entire media telling her differently?

All I could do was tell her that from now on I would take my business elsewhere. I have not been back to that store.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:50:47pm

re: #297 BeachDem

I think you’re selling yourself short in your comparison to that twit!

You are way smarter and better “spoken.”

I’m just not cut out for public office. Thanks though!

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:51:28pm

re: #300 HappyWarrior

I’m just not cut out for public office. Thanks though!

A real shame. A tragedy, really.

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:52:57pm

re: #293 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:53:25pm

re: #299 Anymouse

When James O’Keefe came out with his edited Planned Parenthood videos, the news about them (but not the debunking) was an instant hit here. Constant pushing in the paper and on the local FOX station about “baby parts.”

I went into the store in Sidney where I usually buy cigarettes, and out of the blue the owner launches into a hatefest about Planned Parenthood selling baby parts. (Our nearest Planned Parenthood is in Cheyenne, over 120 miles away.)

I tried to push back against the nonsense, but the store owner was convinced: It had been on television, the radio, and in newspapers. Everything covering the story here was “Planned Parenthood accused of selling baby parts.” Who would the person believe, one Democrat from sixty miles away, or the entire media telling her differently?

All I could do was tell her that from now on I would take my business elsewhere. I have not been back to that store.

Propaganda works. Sigh.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:54:05pm

re: #254 HappyWarrior

He honestly seems as qualified as I am and I definitely am not qualified to run my county’d Democratic Party. I’ve always said a wise man knows his limits hence why you’ll never see me seek office.

And so many other Democrats say the same thing (I’m not qualified for public office).

Public office, especially at the local level, is not that difficult. Believe me, there seems to be no basement qualification for a Republican to run.

We have to get our voters out of the mindset of “well, I’m not qualified for public office”, “I don’t have time for public office”, &c.

Everyone saying “I’ll support someone who runs” is not good enough if no one is running.

School boards, special districts, village boards, county commissions, Republicans here make sure every office has a candidate.

Don’t think of why you are not qualified, think of why you are qualified. If an socialistic-leaning atheistic erotic Romance editor can get elected (twice) in the most conservative House district in the nation with no prior experience in government (other than the military), surely others can.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:56:25pm

re: #302 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:56:45pm

re: #302 teleskiguy

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:57:13pm

Dakota Access Pipeline protesters being arrested for staying beyond the deadline to leave their protest camp.
huffingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 9:58:49pm

re: #301 MsJ

A real shame. A tragedy, really.

Heh stop it heh, you’ve never heard me publicly speak. I’m a terrible public speaker. I take pride that I am good at what I am though. I have to admit though, it would be neat to pave the way for other people on the spectrum but I just dread certain parts of elected office.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:00:01pm

re: #306 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:00:13pm

re: #306 teleskiguy

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:00:28pm

re: #304 Anymouse

And so many other Democrats say the same thing (I’m not qualified for public office).

Public office, especially at the local level, is not that difficult. Believe me, there seems to be no basement qualification for a Republican to run.

We have to get our voters out of the mindset of “well, I’m not qualified for public office”, “I don’t have time for public office”, &c.

Everyone saying “I’ll support someone who runs” is not good enough if no one is running.

School boards, special districts, village boards, county commissions, Republicans here make sure every office has a candidate.

Don’t think of why you are not qualified, think of why you are qualified. If an socialistic-leaning atheistic erotic Romance editor can get elected (twice) in the most conservative House district in the nation with no prior experience in government (other than the military), surely others can.

I am just saying, I know my limits, elected office is not for me. Believe me, I do what I can do with my job, being the unofficial official family historian, and helping the kids out in basketball. I just don’t want to be an elected official. It’s not who I am. Props to those who can do it but it’s not me.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:00:39pm

re: #308 HappyWarrior

I am so not up for the “dealing with idiot constituents” part, especially since the “slap them with a clue-by-four” option gets frowned upon.

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Moebym  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:02:23pm

“Arizona Senate votes to seize assets of those who plan, participate in protests that turn violent”

azcapitoltimes.com

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:02:41pm

re: #309 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:02:53pm

re: #312 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I am so not up for the “dealing with idiot constituents” part, especially since the “slap them with a clue-by-four” option gets frowned upon.

Yep, there’s that too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:03:18pm

re: #313 Moebym

“Arizona Senate votes to seize assets of those who plan, participate in protests that turn violent”

azcapitoltimes.com

Oh, so like the Bundys? //

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:03:24pm

re: #284 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Police search for gunman after three people shot at Austins Bar and Grill in Olathe

Thought that rang a bell. Olathe Kansas is the home of Frank Ancona Honda. I posted about this dealership on the 13th because its founder has the same name as a recently deceased Klan and Nazi leader. He is absolutely no relation. The Honda folk have been forced to go to some effort to address this coincidence.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:03:37pm

re: #313 Moebym

“Arizona Senate votes to seize assets of those who plan, participate in protests that turn violent”

azcapitoltimes.com

So much STUFF going on that I hope the judiciary is able to slap down!

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:05:06pm

re: #313 Moebym

Good thing I’m poor as shit!! LOL

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:07:15pm
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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:07:40pm

re: #313 Moebym

“Arizona Senate votes to seize assets of those who plan, participate in protests that turn violent”

azcapitoltimes.com

Plan a peaceful protest, some jerks come in and cause trouble, law allows grabbing the assets of those who planned the peaceful protest.

Betcha the police would be all for this.

And I’ll also wager that regardless of how tenuous violence or property damage is associated with any protest, that law would be used to seize assets anyway.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:10:03pm
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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:12:23pm

re: #321 Anymouse

Not taking that bet! It will be predatory and exploitative for sure.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:16:00pm

re: #320 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Yep.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:16:43pm

re: #323 JordanRules

Not taking that bet! It will be predatory and exploitative for sure.

As the article notes, all the things the Republicans claimed in support of the bill are already illegal (incitement to riot, vandalism, &c). Democratic state senators noted that the law could be used against their own supporters (an example given was a Tea Party rally organised on Facebook and advertised, followed by a person not associated with them coming along and breaking car windows).

Rs also made the claims of “paid provocateurs.”

The bill passed the senate with all Rs in favour and all Ds opposed. It now goes to the House.

My guess is the law would be applied selectively if passed (against Democratic/liberal protests).

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:17:48pm

So my genealogical match, I’m the first person ever to contact her. Man I don’t get people. Why take the test if you’re not going to message your matches? Obviously, I can’t message every last one of these people but anyone who I’m at least a close match with, I’m going to message and hope that maybe we can attempt to find where the connection lies.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:19:26pm

re: #325 Anymouse

As the article notes, all the things the Republicans claimed in support of the bill are already illegal (incitement to riot, vandalism, &c). Democratic state senators noted that the law could be used against their own supporters (an example given was a Tea Party rally organised on Facebook and advertised, followed by a person not associated with them coming along and breaking car windows).

Rs also made the claims of “paid provocateurs.”

The bill passed the senate with all Rs in favour and all Ds opposed. It now goes to the House.

My guess is the law would be applied selectively if passed (against Democratic/liberal protests).

It’d be up to local LEO I guess. It just sounds like bad legislation and once again no talk from the free peach brigade that attacks lefty students but is a okay with this crap and crap like running over protesters with their cars (yes, there are people who actually want ot be able to do that) even though the roads are as much the protesters as the motorists.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:20:44pm

re: #284 FormerDirtDart

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Police search for gunman after three people shot at Austins Bar and Grill in Olathe

The shooter is reported to be a white male in his 60s.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:22:22pm

re: #328 Shiplord Kirel

The shooter is reported to be a white male in his 60s.

He is the model of a modern white supremacist.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:22:32pm

Amnesty International report compares trends that lead to Hitler’s rise to power to today’s divisive politics.
washingtonpost.com

(Republicans have actually been at my whole life as far as I have experienced, if Amnesty reads this Website. It’s just now coming to fruition.)

In its latest report, Amnesty International just compared the rise of anti-immigrant sentiment and populist rhetoric in 2016 to the 1930s, singling out President Trump in particular.

Trump was harshly criticized by the London-based group on Tuesday evening for his “hateful xenophobic pre-election rhetoric,” divisive politics and a rollback of civil rights.

The comments were part of an extensive annual report released by Amnesty International that also singled out other leaders and politicians for pursuing “a dehumanizing agenda for political expediency.”

Referring to general trends in many of the 159 countries included in the report, Amnesty International’s secretary general, Salil Shetty, drew parallels between developments in 2016 and Adolf Hitler’s rise to power in the 1930s.

(More at the Washington Post)

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:23:17pm

re: #323 JordanRules

Not taking that bet! It will be predatory and exploitative for sure.

I might move to a manor house in England, maybe Surrey and that part of the world. Like to see the GOP gangsters collect on that.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:30:17pm

re: #331 Shiplord Kirel

Ha! I had an emigration comment on deck. Will they use their institutions to stop Brexit though? I hope so.

Our institutions are being abused, as are we. I’d bet most of the right doesn’t even have an elementary understanding of them. So much is rotten and rotting. And yes, it is the logical evolution of their ideaology. Chickens coming home to roost in the worst way.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:33:08pm

Someone local searching for family history (though not his):
Mitchell Man Seeks Information about Tombstone Unearthed on His Property (Goes to the Scottsbluff NE Star-Herald)

Carr was working in heavy grass and brush at the edge of his lot when he found an apparent tombstone.

“I hit something real hard with the shovel,” Carr said. “I brushed it off and it had the old script-type writing on it.”

He moved it from the overgrown area to his yard and cleaned it up. The weathered inscription etched in the concrete:

Lucy Jane Deckert
Born July 26, 1852
Died Dec 14, 1936

That means the woman would have been born during the pioneer days of this area and died during the Great Depression.

They have more information at the paper about another Deckert who died in 1972 that might be related to her, based on a Web search that shows the same name, but not a concrete connexion.

The man in Mitchell says he would be interested in finding out who she is and if she has living relatives so he can inform them. He also wants to clean up the gravesite. The paper ran his telephone number at the end of the article if anyone who is interested in tracking down someone else’s history can find it for him,

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:36:42pm

re: #333 Anymouse

I hope they find a connection. My farm has a complete 19th century cemetery on it, along with Indian burial mounds. It means a lot to me.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:37:42pm

re: #331 Shiplord Kirel

I might move to a manor house in England, maybe Surrey and that part of the world. Like to see the GOP gangsters collect on that.

Well, if you were in Surrey it would be difficult to organise protests in Arizona.

I’m just going to play Yukon Cornelius this summer in Yukon.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:38:03pm

re: #334 retired cynic

I hope they find a connection. My farm has a complete 19th century cemetery on it, along with Indian burial mounds. It means a lot to me.

Someone came before us, and someone will come after us.

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prairiefire  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:38:45pm

re: #333 Anymouse

RIP, Lucy Jane.

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prairiefire  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:39:38pm

re: #331 Shiplord Kirel

I might move to a manor house in England, maybe Surrey and that part of the world. Like to see the GOP gangsters collect on that.

Aye, but Her Majesty will.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:39:55pm

re: #334 retired cynic

I hope they find a connection. My farm has a complete 19th century cemetery on it, along with Indian burial mounds. It means a lot to me.

My wife would like a cemetery to live in (but that’s because she is macabre).

Have you contacted your local historical society or county board over it? They might be willing to help you with upkeep of the cemetery.

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prairiefire  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:41:22pm

re: #328 Shiplord Kirel

The shooter is reported to be a white male in his 60s.

This is fuckin awful. Lawlessness out here. Solution: Moar guns!

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:42:08pm

re: #339 Anymouse

It’s on large scale maps of the land here, and the state is aware of the Indian mounds, and has them numbered. They came and inspected them about 10 years ago.

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prairiefire  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:43:16pm

re: #339 Anymouse

Oh, your wife is macabre, a sister in NE? Did she grow up wanting to be Morticia or Lily? I’m a Morticia.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:43:35pm

In the “looks are important department, but substance isn’t”:

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:43:43pm

re: #331 Shiplord Kirel

I might move to a manor house in England, maybe Surrey and that part of the world. Like to see the GOP gangsters collect on that.

I think your presence and services would be best implemented in the United States, especially where you are on the Shiplord Kirel Conspiracy Compound somewhere between Lubbock and Ft. Worth. Basically I’m saying please stay!

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:44:44pm

re: #344 teleskiguy

I think your presence and services would be best implemented in the United States, especially where you are on the Shiplord Kirel Conspiracy Compound between Lubbock and Ft. Worth. Basically I’m saying please stay!

Either that, or take us with you.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:47:09pm

Down in that Politico article, a pair of sentences that pretty much sums up this whole road show in DC:

Meanwhile, several dozen Trump-appointed political staffers have arrived in Foggy Bottom, many of whom are still learning the ropes and are wary of engaging with the civil servants.

“It’s like high school,” said the State official familiar with Tillerson’s media request. “The Trump people all sit together at the tables at lunch.”

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:48:24pm

re: #342 prairiefire

Oh, your wife is macabre, a sister in NE? Did she grow up wanting to be Morticia or Lily? I’m a Morticia.

She wanted to be Wednesday.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 10:59:31pm

That seems to have stopped the thread in its tracks.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:00:45pm

Always on to the next one.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:01:21pm

re: #348 retired cynic

That seems to have stopped the thread in its tracks.

Wednesday will do that.

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:08:54pm
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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:10:42pm

Well, I’m off to bed … wife has to go to the doc in the AM.

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:13:29pm

sciencebasedmedicine.org

Anti-vaxxer “warriors” send death threats to a twelve-year-old boy.

The boy created a YouTube video critical of the anti-vaccine pro-death movement.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:15:10pm

re: #353 Anymouse

Then they should be located and visited by LE, and the ^&*() scared out of them.

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prairiefire  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:18:11pm

re: #347 Anymouse

Yay! Stripes and a somber expression.

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William Lewis  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:22:55pm

re: #336 TedStriker

Someone came before us, and someone will come after us.

“Generations come and generations go; the earth abides forever” Ecc. 1:4

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:26:45pm

Yay (not), Winter Storm Warning now in effect through Friday. Just the thing to take my wife to the doc. Up to sixteen inches of snow.
starherald.com

Pacific low pressure system appears on track to impact most of southeast Wyoming and western Nebraska starting Wednesday, according to information from the National Weather Service in Cheyenne. Areas of the Panhandle could see six inches to 16 inches of snow.

Winter storm watches were issued Tuesday for all areas in the lower elevations of southeast Wyoming and all of western Nebraska. At about 1:45 p.m., the National Weather Service upgraded the watch to a winter storm warning for the western Nebraska cities of Chadron, Alliance, Scottsbluff, Gering, Harrisburg, Harrison, Agate,and the eastern Wyoming cities of Lusk, Wheatland, Guernsey and Torrington. The warning is in effect from 11 p.m. Wednesday to 11 a.m. on Friday.

forecast.weather.gov

(Why does Angora, population 1 get listed, but my town doesn’t? They always list us as “mainly rural areas of Morrill County.)

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Cheyenne WY
928 PM MST Wed Feb 22 2017

…MAJOR WINTER STORM TO IMPACT THE REGION FROM TONIGHT THROUGH
FRIDAY MORNING…

NEZ02[no phone numbers allowed]00-
/o.con.kcys.ws.W.0006.170223T1200Z-170224T1800Z/
Morrill-Kimball-Cheyenne-
Including the cities of Angora, Bridgeport, Bayard, Redington,
Kimball, Brownson, and Sidney
928 PM MST Wed Feb 22 2017 (more at the NWS)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:43:44pm

re: #313 Moebym

“Arizona Senate votes to seize assets of those who plan, participate in protests that turn violent”

azcapitoltimes.com

very good way to keep people from even thinking about protesting…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:48:12pm

re: #334 retired cynic

I hope they find a connection. My farm has a complete 19th century cemetery on it, along with Indian burial mounds. It means a lot to me.

Wow! Just like Poltergeist! Does your TV talk to you in whispers?

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Anymouse  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:50:25pm

re: #358 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

very good way to keep people from even thinking about protesting…

Nice little fascist state they have there.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:51:55pm

re: #359 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wow! Just like Poltergeist! Does your TV talk to you in whispers?

Nope. For one thing, I don’t have a TV. For another, I’m just not sensitive that way! A professional ghost hunter used to bring tour groups, but the last one was last summer. I’ve never gone on it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:52:52pm

re: #360 Anymouse

Nice little fascist state they have there.

But again, the drill follows a pattern:

1) create rumors of a problem that does not exist (voter fraud, paid rioters)

2) create an unconstitutional “solution” to said problem

3) use said “solution” to deprive people of basic constitutional rights

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:54:39pm

re: #361 retired cynic

Nope. For one thing, I don’t have a TV. For another, I’m just not sensitive that way! A professional ghost hunter used to bring tour groups, but the last one was last summer. I’ve never gone on it.

As a kid, I was always fascinated by the ghost whispers and flashing images that appeared on the blank channels of our TV (do they even have such things now in the digital age?)

But no, I have never been much into “paranormal” activities, to me ghost stories are just an interesting genre of fiction.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2017 • 11:57:43pm

re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sorry! I’m just a clod! I know somebody who is sensitive, and seems to attract paranormal activity, but it never seems to happen when I am there. I have a black thumb with plants, too. sigh

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teleskiguy  Feb 23, 2017 • 12:00:27am

Our humble host plays lead guitar on this track.

Life Is Just a Game

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retired cynic  Feb 23, 2017 • 12:01:35am

re: #364 retired cynic

And with that, I’m out for the night. Thanks for the chat!

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Anymouse  Feb 23, 2017 • 12:05:11am

re: #366 retired cynic

And with that, I’m out for the night. Thanks for the chat!

G’night. I’m out too. Can’t wait for the snowstorm (yes I can).

Cat clawed me to remind me about his insulin shot. Fortunately, I trimmed his claws yesterday so he didn’t lay me open deeply enough to require stitches… .

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Moebym  Feb 23, 2017 • 12:08:26am

re: #353 Anymouse

sciencebasedmedicine.org

Anti-vaxxer “warriors” send death threats to a twelve-year-old boy.

The boy created a YouTube video critical of the anti-vaccine pro-death movement.

Any mention of anti-vaxxers fills me with rage. Thanks to the invention of vaccines, they have never had to endure a flu or polio pandemic that saw their friends and family dropping like flies or becoming crippled for life. Simply put, they don’t know or appreciate how good they have it.

Same can be said about the people who have never lived through the rise of fascism in their country, or witnessed the bloody struggle for civil rights, or…or…or…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2017 • 12:08:47am

re: #364 retired cynic

Sorry! I’m just a clod! I know somebody who is sensitive, and seems to attract paranormal activity, but it never seems to happen when I am there. I have a black thumb with plants, too. sigh

…another thing we have in common.

And I do not dislike animals, but I am not a pet person, either. Would probably keep a cat or dog if I lived way out in the country where they could live free-range.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2017 • 12:11:29am

re: #368 Moebym

Any mention of anti-vaxxers fills me with rage.

Anti-vaxxers are an example of a dangerous overlap between anti-Big Pharma, anti Western medicine moonbats, and anti-Big Government, anti-science wingnuts.

When they combine, they reach a critical mass of derp that can be literally lethal.

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Anymouse  Feb 23, 2017 • 12:54:22am

Back for a single comment, then back to bed:

It occurs to me that an opportunity is being missed by Democrats at these Republican town halls they are all skipping.

When the GOP rep or senator doesn’t show, someone who is running for office on the Democratic side could simply step in and offer to take questions.

“Hi, I’m Joe Smith and I am running to be your next congresscritter. I am not afraid of the voters …”

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 23, 2017 • 2:09:36am

Does anyone else watch Legion, the new comic book series? It’s like the late stage of a traumatic LSD experience, about 5 hours after the peak, an extremely edgy part of the come down. I really find this show disturbing, but good though.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 2:18:02am

Is it Iowa Republicans who are proposing political monitoring of state university professors? Maybe someone should tell them that the Chinese Communist Party does the same thing, but with a much heavier hand.

scmp.com

The party’s ideological control of colleges has intensified since President Xi Jinping came to power in late 2012.

Mainland universities received orders the following year to steer clear of seven topics while teaching, including universal values, press freedom and civil rights.
The discipline watchdog’s latest inspections came after Xi called during a high-level meeting in December for the country’s colleges to pledge allegiance to the Communist Party.

Xi vowed at the meeting to turn the country’s universities into “strongholds of the party’s leadership” which “firmly uphold the correct political direction” and ensure that orthodox Marxism dominates the minds of their scholars and students.

The article also suggests that restrictions on the top universities will both ensure Xi’s position as party leader and nip any Tiananmen Square-type student revolts in the bud.

Don’t give the GOP any ideas on those last points. //

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 23, 2017 • 2:37:49am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Yes, that too. Fucking right wing assholes have made a good amount of people think transgendered people are sexual predators.

Funny coincidence on this line of thinking. I was at my local watering hole a couple nights ago. A guy walked in that I had seen a few times over the last couple months. He starts talking to a guy sitting between us at the bar (I didn’t know either but he was talking directly in my direction). He said he moved up this way after they started closing down a jail he had been working in father south of here. He was complaining that they were going to change the “level” of his area at the jail from 3 to 4 (whatever that means). He said right now at 3 he had mostly child molesters in there. He then went on to state that at level 4 he would start getting those ni-clang drug dealers and he wasn’t happy. So basically he had just admitted that white people are child molesters which he has no problem with because they are … well white I guess. He then, of course, proceeded to berate “liberals” and praise tRump for doing whatever he sees him as doing.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 2:42:32am

Colleague in the USA posted this on Facebook, and sharing here:

URGENT: House Resolution 610 was just introduced, which will eliminate the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA) of 1965 and, in effect, dismantle public education. Parents with kids in public schools, teachers, and anyone else who believes in equity, healthy lunches, and the public school system: please call your US House Representative- and those in other states where you have any sort of connection and ask them to vote NO on House Bill 610. HR 610 was introduced in the Education & Workforce Committee by 3 Republican House Reps: Lead is Andy Harris-MD[no phone numbers allowed], with Franks-AZ[no phone numbers allowed] and Olson-TX[no phone numbers allowed].

This bill will start the nationwide school voucher system to be used by children ages 5-17, which will begin the systematic defunding of public schools. Simultaneously, it will eliminate invaluable student programs that address poverty and offer protections for students with disabilities.

If it passes and Trump signs, then bye-bye public education as we have known it for 50 years.

More details networkforpubliceducation.org

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 4:38:40am

re: #126 electrotek

Bigoted Iraqi Christian lady had to be told:

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You know that mega-mosque on Ford Road in Dearborn? There are FOUR (‘count ‘em”) 4 CHURCHES on the same block.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 4:38:57am

Actually 5 churches if you count the one across the street.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 4:48:25am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

Actually 5 churches if you count the one across the street.

And everyone probably gets along just fine.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 4:48:59am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

Actually 5 churches if you count the one across the street.

Probably a nexus for Girl Scout cookies, too.

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I cannot.  Feb 23, 2017 • 4:53:13am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:06:19am

WHAT A DELICATE LITTLE SNOWFLAKE

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Joe Bacon  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:11:38am

re: #353 Anymouse

sciencebasedmedicine.org

Anti-vaxxer “warriors” send death threats to a twelve-year-old boy.

The boy created a YouTube video critical of the anti-vaccine pro-death movement.

Every time I see people suffering a full blown Stupid Attack, I remember as a kid how I was bedridden with measles for 3 weeks, so weak I could barely get out of bed to go to the bathroom. Mom was so worried that a couple nights she slept in a chair next to my bed.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:13:19am

When will Trump take credit for regaining control of Mosul airport?

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:15:35am

re: #382 Joe Bacon

Every time I see people suffering a full blown Stupid Attack, I remember as a kid how I was bedridden with measles for 3 weeks, so weak I could barely get out of bed to go to the bathroom. Mom was so worried that a couple nights she slept in a chair next to my bed.

I can still remember standing in line as a little kid somewhere to get my sugar cube laced with polio vaccine. It was about the only time my parents let me eat a sugar cube by itself.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:17:29am

CPAC: I guess a large-size meteorite is too much to ask for.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:18:56am

re: #384 wheat-dogg

I can still remember standing in line as a little kid somewhere to get my sugar cube laced with polio vaccine. It was about the only time my parents let me eat a sugar cube by itself.

I remember standing in line in the school gym to get a needle poke. I wasn’t too happy about that but my parents sure were.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:19:13am

re: #383 GlutenFreeJesus

When will Trump take credit for regaining control of Mosul airport?

As soon as someone explains to him where Mosul is…

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:22:35am

re: #387 Timothy Watson

As soon as someone explains to him where Mosul is…

“Hey, they owe us some oil!”

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:25:35am
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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:30:57am

re: #22 Jay C

So the “Obama is behind all the protests” BS meme has moved from the Alex Jones fringe into stock GOP talking points already? Jeez - what these hacks won’t do to avoid their own constituents….

Though I was amused to see MItch McConnell discomfited by all those embarrassing questions at his meeting today: after taking enormous precautions to keep protesters at a distance, he still got a grilling from what looked like a presumably-friendly Republican audience (C of C?) . Which, I noticed, he still ducked, obfuscated, and/or ignored…

And lied. He lied and lied and lied 🤥 .

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:31:31am

What is it about elected officials in the UK and the USA suddenly deciding they’re fucking monarchs? PM May told the House of Lords they’d better not mess with her Brexit plans, or else.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:33:23am

re: #389 wheat-dogg

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Timothy Watson  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:37:34am

Speaking of vaccines:

On this date:

In 1954, the first mass inoculation of schoolchildren against polio using the Salk vaccine began in Pittsburgh as some 5,000 students were vaccinated.

wtop.com

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:39:45am

I discovered this Instagram feed by accident, and I’m loving it. This guy takes superhero figurines and puts them in eerily lifelike situations. For example,

Instagram

#toys4life#toystagram#toyslagram#toygraphid#actionfigure#ATA_dreadnoughts#JustAnotherToyGroup#toyartistry#ToyGroup_Alliance#toptoyphotos#toydiscovery#toycommunity #toyunion#ACBA#epictoyart#オモ写 #dccomics #harleyquinn #jorker

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:43:25am
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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:43:43am

So, it seems that Kill the Public Schools bill HR 610 may be dead in the water, because the homeschoolers, of all people, don’t like it.

crooksandliars.com

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Timothy Watson  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:44:34am

Trump continues to undermine the military:

DoD’s interpretation of guidance from the Office of Management and Budget has allowed some narrow exceptions to the freeze for employees who are “required for cybersecurity and cyberspace operations or planning,” but in the Marines’ case, each request for an exemption will have to go through a detailed process, adjudicated by the deputy commandant for manpower and reserve affairs and the office of the secretary of the Navy in order to certify that a new hire is vital to public safety or national security.

“We felt effects from the freeze the second it went into effect, because we have people in the pipeline we’re trying to hire,” Crall said. “We’re exploring whether the exemptions allow us go to where we need to go, so I’m not sounding an alarm. Time will tell. I’m optimistic that for the folks that are most critical for us to hire, there’s a way to get them into those positions.”

federalnewsradio.com

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Ming5000  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:46:07am

I recently drove from Cleveland to Knoxville. In between the metro areas there were many anti-abortion signs, JESUS billboards and crosses, and still some Trump shrines.
Then, yesterday, drove with two colleagues to a plant 5 hours away. Both are apparently deeply religious as the chat revealed. One colleague was deeply Trump. He was earnestly Trump, hoping for good things like jobs to come back. He was laser focused on trans-gendered bathrooms. He was anti-immigration. Seemed to be against “mingling” of cultures. Believed that immigration from Africa spiked due to “Thanks OBAMA”.
I am always tongue tied when confronted with so many incorrect talking points. I feel I have to have facts to respond, while the other side lives in such a simple, clearly defined world.
I can see how Trump has the highest approval rating of any prior GOP president.
I don’t see how the two sides are ever going to get closer to a center.

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jeffreyw  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:48:19am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Ming5000  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:49:34am

re: #389 wheat-dogg

“These are customs agents forcibly checking the ID of every passenger deplaning from Delta flight 1583 tonight at JFK. A domestic flight.”

I wonder what the rule for responding to a random search? In Michigan the law says you have to give age and address verbally. That is all.
Can you refuse to show ID to federal agents in a random check? I see videos of people refusing to do so in the border regions.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:52:18am

re: #398 Ming5000

I recently drove from Cleveland to Knoxville. In between the metro areas there were many anti-abortion signs, JESUS billboards and crosses, and still some Trump shrines.
Then, yesterday, drove with two colleagues to a plant 5 hours away. Both are apparently deeply religious as the chat revealed. One colleague was deeply Trump. He was earnestly Trump, hoping for good things like jobs to come back. He was laser focused on trans-gendered bathrooms. He was anti-immigration. Seemed to be against “mingling” of cultures. Believed that immigration from Africa spiked due to “Thanks OBAMA”.
I am always tongue tied when confronted with so many incorrect talking points. I feel I have to have facts to respond, while the other side lives in such a simple, clearly defined world.
I can see how Trump has the highest approval rating of any prior GOP president.
I don’t see how the two sides are ever going to get closer to a center.

Trump people have their own alt-reality distinct from the reality everyone else lives in.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:54:29am

re: #400 Ming5000

“These are customs agents forcibly checking the ID of every passenger deplaning from Delta flight 1583 tonight at JFK. A domestic flight.”

I wonder what the rule for responding to a random search? In Michigan the law says you have to give age and address verbally. That is all.
Can you refuse to show ID to federal agents in a random check? I see videos of people refusing to do so in the border regions.

What’s weird is customs agents checking people from a domestic flight. If anyone were on the plane from an international leg, they would have already passed through immigration and customs.

I’m going to be on my toes this summer when I visit the USA.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:55:23am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

I caught a part of a PBS story on the Freedom Riders, about how one city in Mississippi tried to break the Freedom Riders movement by sending everyone to the state prison that had a really bad reputation. So the Freedom Riders from all across the country overloaded it until the federal government issued orders eliminating separate terminals for whites and blacks.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:58:09am

Welp, here’s another domestic flight met by customs agents.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 5:59:19am

re: #404 wheat-dogg

Welp, here’s another domestic flight met by customs agents.

[Embedded content]

Looks like the same flight (Delta 1583 from SFO-JFK)

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:01:03am

re: #405 The Vicious Babushka

Looks like the same flight (Delta 1583 from SFO-JFK)

OK. Still, it corroborates the first tweet.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:01:09am

re: #401 wheat-dogg

Trump people have their own alt-reality distinct from the reality everyone else lives in.

I really need to memeify the William Shirer quote from The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, which I have posted before:

Often in a German home or office or sometimes in a casual conversation with a stranger in a restaurant, a beer hall, a cafe, I would meet with the most outlandish assertions from seemingly educated and intelligent persons. It was obvious that they were parroting some piece of nonsense they had heard on the radio or read in the newspapers. Sometimes one was tempted to say as much, but on such occasions one was met with such a stare of incredulity, such a shock of silence, as if one had blasphemed the Almighty, that one realized how useless it was even to try to make contact with a mind which had become warped and for whom the facts of life had become what Hitler and Goebbels, with their cynical disregard for truth, said they were.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:02:07am

In other news, I did not win the Powerball last night.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:04:30am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

So another day in the coal mines for you?

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I cannot.  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:04:48am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

Dammit, at the rate Soros is spending money for all these protests, we’re going to need additional funds…WIN THAT POWERBALL!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:07:38am

re: #409 Timothy Watson

So another day in the coal mines for you?

It’s the code mines for me. :(

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:07:54am

re: #407 Timothy Watson

I really need to memeify the William Shirer quote from The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, which I have posted before:

The RW media and Trump have succeeded in creating the same kind of mind control here. Someone on Twitter suggested Trump doesn’t need to build a wall. All he needs to do is say he built the wall, and his mindless followers would believe there was now a wall. I think even Trumpistas living near the Mexican border would swear there was a wall, even if they were looking at thin air.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:11:14am

Cheeto Benito hasn’t tweeted in over 24 hours. Did his staff manage to hide the Politico piece AND his Android phone?

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I cannot.  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:12:30am

re: #413 The Vicious Babushka

Gave him a klonopin the size of a manhole cover.

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William Lewis  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:13:39am

re: #402 wheat-dogg

What’s weird is customs agents checking people from a domestic flight. If anyone were on the plane from an international leg, they would have already passed through immigration and customs.

I’m going to be on my toes this summer when I visit the USA.

Fly in and out of Canada and then cross the boarder in a car. It’s not quite as bad.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:15:13am

re: #413 The Vicious Babushka

Cheeto Benito hasn’t tweeted in over 24 hours. Did his staff manage to hide the Politico piece AND his Android phone?

Damage control, I assume. Trump would be sure to start another brushfire with his insane tweeting.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:15:20am

I caught about 30 seconds of KellyAnne on Fox this morning. She was talking about the protests and her comment that all of the F&F were agreeing with was that the protesters “weren’t offering solutions.”

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fern01  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:15:57am

re: #404 wheat-dogg

Welp, here’s another domestic flight met by customs agents.

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My flight from SFO to JFK. We were told we couldn’t disembark without showing our “documents.”

What they going to do - make you stay on board and fly back to SFO. This is true insanity.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:16:15am

re: #415 William Lewis

Fly in and out of Canada and then cross the boarder in a car. It’s not quite as bad.

Worth a try, TBH. But the boarder would probably sue me for medical expenses. //

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:18:28am

He would make Jesus pay rent but give him a “very good deal”

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:20:06am
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Eventual Carrion  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:22:29am

re: #420 The Vicious Babushka

He would make Jesus pay rent but give him a “very good deal”

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He got the idea from a couple Corinthians.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:23:46am
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William Lewis  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:26:43am

re: #419 wheat-dogg

The joy of autocorrect… ;)

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:27:02am

re: #423 The Vicious Babushka

Too young. Toxic atmosphere finally got him.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:32:59am

re: #336 TedStriker

Someone came before us, and someone will come after us.

We do not inherit the land from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children. - Native American saying.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:33:05am

re: #423 The Vicious Babushka

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That’s sad. Always thought he appeared too nice a guy to be a pundit. Condolences to Alan’s family and friends.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:35:13am

re: #427 HappyWarrior

That’s sad. Always thought he appeared too nice a guy to be a pundit. Condolences to Alan’s family and friends.

Didn’t he used to partner with Hannity?

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:35:37am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

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Blatantly unconstitutional.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:36:36am

re: #368 Moebym

Any mention of anti-vaxxers fills me with rage. Thanks to the invention of vaccines, they have never had to endure a flu or polio pandemic that saw their friends and family dropping like flies or becoming crippled for life. Simply put, they don’t know or appreciate how good they have it.

Same can be said about the people who have never lived through the rise of fascism in their country, or witnessed the bloody struggle for civil rights, or…or…or…

Share this news story with the anti-vaxxers sometime.

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mmmirele  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:37:10am

re: #313 Moebym

“Arizona Senate votes to seize assets of those who plan, participate in protests that turn violent”

azcapitoltimes.com

Emails sent to my senator, Bob Worsley, giving him hell for voting for SB1142, and to Rusty Bowers and Michelle Udall, my state reps, telling them how I object strenuously.

As one of your constituents, I am writing to object strenuously to to the above-captioned legislation which is coming to you from the Senate (SB1142 riot; planning; participation; racketeering). I have a personal interest in this legislation, because I have regularly protested outside of badly-behaving organizations. For example, I picketed outside “The Trinity Church” in Scottsdale, Arizona last year (pretty much every Sunday from March to November) because their pastor, Mark Driscoll, was abusive to church members in Seattle, then abandoned his church (Mars Hill) when his elders told him that he should not preach for a while. I also made a point of picketing Scientology in various locations from California to Florida in the ’90s and ’00s. I have a *lot* of experience at this—and here’s the key, I’ve never been arrested, because I know the rules.

I find this legislation, with its guilt by association, to be excessively punitive. It is also an attempt to suppress the First Amendment rights of people to freely assemble for redress of grievances by putting fear in our hearts that if a rally goes south due to agent provocateurs, you too might end up having your home and your property seized.

I question whether this legislation would stand up under the scrutiny of the courts, given its guilt by association aspects. I’m really hoping I don’t have to use the JD (that’d be “law degree”) I put aside years ago when I went into technology to find out. I am urging you to vote against SB1142.

(signed)

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Timothy Watson  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:38:55am

re: #428 The Vicious Babushka

Didn’t he used to partner with Hannity?

Yes, later had a solo radio show.

Cancer was the cause of death per WTOP.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:42:16am

re: #428 The Vicious Babushka

Didn’t he used to partner with Hannity?

Yep. A lot of people on the left myself included thought he was too meek for that. Honestly, having seen him interviewed, he just wasn’t an asshole like many pundits are. Wonder if Hannity mentions him tonight.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:43:32am

re: #430 Romantic Heretic

Share this news story with the anti-vaxxers sometime.

There is an outbreak of whooping cough in Lexington. Thanks, anti-vaccers!

kentucky.com

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:44:01am

re: #428 The Vicious Babushka

Yup - Hannity and Colms was one of the big shows of its time.

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:47:32am

Greets and saluts from the resistance. It’s been a foggy kind of morning here in the NYC metro area - for a while, visibility was under 1/4 of a mile around the Hudson River and into the Meadowlands.

That’s rather fitting since there are none so blind as those who choose not to see the agitprop that they’re willingly spreading to their supporters. This is what Hannity, Hoft and others are doing on a daily basis, and I ended up paging it because it encapsulates everything that the right wing media ecosystem does.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:47:52am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:50:57am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:52:39am

re: #436 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance. It’s been a foggy kind of morning here in the NYC metro area - for a while, visibility was under 1/4 of a mile around the Hudson River and into the Meadowlands.

That’s rather fitting since there are none so blind as those who choose not to see the agitprop that they’re willingly spreading to their supporters. This is what Hannity, Hoft and others are doing on a daily basis, and I ended up paging it because it encapsulates everything that the right wing media ecosystem does.

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Hannity’s been doing propaganda for years. Dude, you complained about the President’s choice of burger condiment. You don’t have a right to complain about the media.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:53:40am

re: #432 Timothy Watson

Yes, later had a solo radio show.

Cancer was the cause of death per WTOP.

I heard he was much better at that. Probably because he didn’t have Lumpy shouting at him for espousing a left of Atilla viewpoint. Seriously though, too young. Poor guy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:54:03am

re: #438 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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Guy is in a safe district. Fucking wimp.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:54:30am
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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:54:40am

re: #432 Timothy Watson

Yes, later had a solo radio show.

Cancer was the cause of death per WTOP.

Fuck cancer. With a rusty pitchfork sideways. No lube.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:54:46am

re: #437 Romantic Heretic

We have a mumps outbreak here in Toronto.

The mumps vaccine given to babies only lasts for 10-15 years. Teenagers have to receive a booster shot or they will lose the immunity from the first shot. This could be solved if all high schools required incoming freshmen to receive boosters.

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b.d.  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:55:12am

re: #428 The Vicious Babushka

Didn’t he used to partner with Hannity?

Wonder how that POS Hannity will mark his passing, if at all?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:55:19am

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ein Volk, Ein Trump, Ein Nation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:56:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:57:45am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 6:58:53am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She’s using “alternative meaning” for the word “sacrificed” obviously because it makes no sense if you apply the original meaning.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:01:09am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sacrifice, you use that word, I do not think you know what it means.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:01:14am

re: #449 The Vicious Babushka

She’s using “alternative meaning” for the word “sacrificed” obviously because it makes no sense if you apply the original meaning.

I think she means in the same way the Aztecs sacrificed.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:01:35am

re: #448 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Yes he rated me a ten once!”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:02:01am

I thought the point of CPAC was to promote “conservative values”. Oh wait.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:02:31am

re: #445 b.d.

Wonder how that POS Hannity will mark his passing, if at all?

I imagine Lumpy’s at CPAC circle jerking about how great conservatism is.

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makeitstop  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:03:00am

re: #425 Unshaken Defiance

Too young. Toxic atmosphere finally got him.

I remember him doing the mid-afternoon shift (preceding the repulsive Bob Grant) on WABC in the early 90s. He did a good show.

I think he kind of wrecked his cred by signing on to be Hannity’s punching bag on that Fox show. But he was a good liberal. RIP, Mr. Colmes.

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Targetpractice  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:04:34am

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well hey, let’s drop any pretense that conservatism in America for the next three years will be about anything but promoting the ambitions and desires of a bitter old rich man.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:05:07am

re: #455 makeitstop

I remember him doing the mid-afternoon shift (preceding the repulsive Bob Grant) on WABC in the early 90s. He did a good show.

I think he kind of wrecked his cred by signing on to be Hannity’s punching bag on that Fox show. But he was a good liberal. RIP, Mr. Colmes.

I’ll look at it another way. Someone had to be willing to be with Hannity for that much time. He deserves props for doing that. As I said, he always seemed to me that he was too nice a man for the world of punditry. I think part of the reason why he never got too combative with Hannity wasn’t that he was a weak person but rather that it just wasn’t in his nature. Too bad Hannity never got someone who would actually stand up to him. Maybe then the turd wouldn’t have such an inflated opinion of himself.

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makeitstop  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:05:52am

re: #432 Timothy Watson

Yes, later had a solo radio show.

Cancer was the cause of death per WTOP.

He had his radio show in NYC before he did the show with Hannity.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:12:55am

Trump voters are stupid marks who believed the lies of a scamming con man.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:16:06am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

Trump voters are stupid marks who believed the lies of a scamming con man.

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I’m not a politician so I’m free to say it: those Trump voters who are not outright vegetables are simply scumbags.

Now, obviously no politician would say that, and that’s OK. They should win these people’s votes too.

It doesn’t change who they are.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:16:25am
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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:18:03am
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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:18:41am

re: #462 Nyet

(I hope some wingnut takes the bait.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:20:19am

re: #460 Nyet

I’m not a politician so I’m free to say it: those Trump voters who are not outright vegetables are simply scumbags.

Now, obviously no politician would say that, and that’s OK. They should win these people’s votes too.

It doesn’t change who they are.

I’m not going to be generous and think kindly of Trump voters. Fuck their feelings.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:20:57am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

In other news, I did not win the Powerball last night.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:21:05am

re: #464 The Vicious Babushka

I’m not going to be generous and think kindly of Trump voters. Fuck their feelings.

They are free to run to their safe space, LOL.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:21:07am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

Trump voters are stupid marks who believed the lies of a scamming con man.

They’re even worse than enemies. They’re people who want bad things to happen, but hope they don’t get any blood on themselves.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:21:53am

re: #467 Belafon

They’re even worse than enemies. They’re people who want bad things to happen, but hope they don’t get any blood on themselves.

This.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:22:05am

re: #460 Nyet

I’m not a politician so I’m free to say it: those Trump voters who are not outright vegetables are simply scumbags.

Now, obviously no politician would say that, and that’s OK. They should win these people’s votes too.

It doesn’t change who they are.

Since I have relatives who voted for Trump, I will say in their defense that most people don’t follow politics as closely as we do. What the media told them about Hillary was that she was embroiled in a serious email scandal that she could’ve been criminally prosecuted for, and that she had been bought by Wall Street.. They could also believe that Washington is seriously screwed up and thought that Trump as an outsider was the man to shake things up. This is all wrong, but I can understand how they could believe it.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:24:11am

re: #469 Big Beautiful Door

No offence but that makes them vegetables.

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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:25:21am

re: #469 Big Beautiful Door

The sexism, racism, general ugly bluster and such were all reported and covered pretty widely.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:26:02am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

Trump voters are stupid marks who believed the lies of a scamming con man.

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The enemy as in the way Germany was ours during WWII? No, they’re not but enemies of progress, yes for sure. And let’s be honest here, was there even anywhere close to an effort attempting to understand Clinton supporters by right leaning media?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:26:21am

re: #469 Big Beautiful Door

Since I have relatives who voted for Trump, I will say in their defense that most people don’t follow politics as closely as we do. What the media told them about Hillary was that she was embroiled in a serious email scandal that she could’ve been criminally prosecuted for, and that she had been bought by Wall Street.. They could also believe that Washington is seriously screwed up and thought that Trump as an outsider was the man to shake things up. This is all wrong, but I can understand how they could believe it.

So basically braindead Faux News viewers.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:26:21am

BTW, I have seen only bits and pieces of Adventure Time till now, and now I have started watching from S1E1. So far, so good.

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Franklin  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:26:25am

I have family/friends that used emails and other conspiracy theories as cover for their casual racism and sexism.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:27:19am

re: #475 Franklin

I have family/friends that used emails and other conspiracy theories as cover for their casual racism and sexism.

That is a good point. That is often just a cover.

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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:27:39am

re: #475 Franklin

Word! Too many people refuse to keep it this real and that’s a problem too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:28:02am

I dunno about y’all but I’m tired of being told we need to understand or be nice to people who have no equal desire to us. I won’t give someone shit simply for being a Trump supporter but I reserve my right to think they’re an idiot or easily conned.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:29:34am

re: #478 HappyWarrior

I dunno about y’all but I’m tired of being told we need to understand or be nice to people who have no equal desire to us. I won’t give someone shit simply for being a Trump supporter but I reserve my right to think they’re an idiot or easily conned.

Yep. Admittedly, we have it easier than the politicians who want to get elected. And yes, people also change with time (cf. LGF). But I think we’re just being realistic about them here.

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:30:02am

re: #325 Anymouse

As the article notes, all the things the Republicans claimed in support of the bill are already illegal (incitement to riot, vandalism, &c). Democratic state senators noted that the law could be used against their own supporters (an example given was a Tea Party rally organised on Facebook and advertised, followed by a person not associated with them coming along and breaking car windows).

Rs also made the claims of “paid provocateurs.”

The bill passed the senate with all Rs in favour and all Ds opposed. It now goes to the House.

My guess is the law would be applied selectively if passed (against Democratic/liberal protests).

Of course it would. Only Dems riot. Republican scum are the salt of the earth and fight the good fight. (Spit)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:30:02am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:30:17am

re: #479 Nyet

Yep. Admittedly, we have it easier than the politicians who want to get elected. And yes, people also change with time (cf. LGF). But I think we’re just being realistic about them here.

True on all counts.

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BeachDem  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:30:31am

re: #464 The Vicious Babushka

I’m not going to be generous and think kindly of Trump voters. Fuck their feelings.

Stupid or hateful or both.

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Targetpractice  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:31:29am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

Trump voters are stupid marks who believed the lies of a scamming con man.

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So last week it was “pity the rich white guy,” this week it’s “pity the poor white guy.” How’s about I just tell both that they can get together and go fornicate with themselves?

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Franklin  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:31:42am

I also feel that the more television news one* watches, the less they know about politics and world events.

* Aside from nightly news.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:31:44am

How many times have we seen a conservative we know just proclaim Democratic voters want free stuff? Yeah, that’s why I’m not exactly interested in listening to the feelings of these people.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:33:09am

re: #474 Nyet

BTW, I have seen only bits and pieces of Adventure Time till now, and now I have started watching from S1E1. So far, so good.

Enjoy. It gets really good from Marceline & Simon. You’ll know.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:33:15am

re: #483 BeachDem

Stupid or hateful or both.

One has to be stupid to have voted for Trump, of all people, for economic reasons. I mean, *come* *on*.

And more often than not the economic worries are just a cover for giving the finger to the minorities and the changing social attitudes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:33:24am

re: #470 Nyet

No offence but that makes them vegetables.

No, just people with different interests than we have. Most people actually find politics to be tedious, if not actively repugnant.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:35:07am

re: #489 Big Beautiful Door

We’ll disagree on that and that’s OK.

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Targetpractice  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:35:23am

re: #486 HappyWarrior

How many times have we seen a conservative we know just proclaim Democratic voters want free stuff? Yeah, that’s why I’m not exactly interested in listening to the feelings of these people.

“Democrats just buy votes! They give people stuff and do so with my tax dollars!”

“You’re retired, using Medicare to cover your health expenses, living off Social Security checks and government-regulated retirement funds financed through a government-regulated stock market, and you live in an apartment that’s subsidized with government money.”

“BUT I EARNED THAT!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:35:40am

The problem to me frankly is that there’s an attempt to infantize Trump supporters and theri way of thinking as if all of them were hopeless economically.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:36:55am

re: #491 Targetpractice

“Democrats just buy votes! They give people stuff and do so with my tax dollars!”

“You’re retired, using Medicare to cover your health expenses, living off Social Security checks and government-regulated retirement funds financed through a government-regulated stock market, and you live in an apartment that’s subsidized with government money.”

“BUT I EARNED THAT!!!”

Precisely. I don’t mind helping these people out but I want them to shut their mouths about other people. I want my wingnut friend to stop bitching about welfare that is such a small percentage of his tax dollars while he’s silent as hell about wasteful miltiary spending.

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Citizen K  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:37:04am

re: #461 A wild WITHAK appeared!

The best part is the fact that this is said while media gaggle gather around fucking Richard Spencer. YOu know, the guy who literally coined and promoted what we know as the ‘alt-right’?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:38:00am

re: #494 Citizen K

The best part is the fact that this is said while media gaggle gather around fucking Richard Spencer. YOu know, the guy who literally coined and promoted what we know as the ‘alt-right’?

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Wait, wait Spencer is at CPAC? For real?

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:38:40am

BTW, for those of you who like Cartoon Network’s good shows - Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Regular Show, Amazing World of Gumball - you might want to check out the clip from a proposed show, Infinity Train. They showed it at 6am last Saturday morning, and then ran 3 hours of Teen Titans Go. It’s on YouTube and it has a lot of promise, if we can get the network to show it.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:38:42am

re: #492 HappyWarrior

The problem to me frankly is that there’s an attempt to infantize Trump supporters and theri way of thinking as if all of them were hopeless economically.

The majority of the white voters voted for the sex predator, while the minorities, who are statistically worse off economically, voted for the right candidate.

Are the minority voters more informed than the white, straight ones? Question then is, why.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:40:00am

My hairdresser is a wingnut. She is a “small business owner” who has an unlicensed beauty salon in her basement. Last time I was there (2 weeks ago) she was like “I heard they are going to indict Hillary Clinton”

ME: No, that’s idiotic.

SHE: For Benghazi…

ME: That’s bullshit!

SHE: Eek!

ME: Sorry for the cussing.

SHE: I think there was a cover up.

ME: If there was a “cover up” there would be ZERO investigation, not 12 investigations that turned up NOTHING.

SHE: But…

ME: Just stop this please. It’s super stupid.

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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:40:27am

re: #497 Nyet

Right. Why did 93% of black women voters not fall for the fake news and propaganda that everyone was subjected to?

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bratwurst  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:40:30am

Damn!

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:41:03am
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:41:51am

re: #471 JordanRules

The sexism, racism, general ugly bluster and such were all reported and covered pretty widely.

Yes, but my point is they aren’t watching the news or on twitter or websites like this. They don’t think of themselves as racists and don’t approve of open bigots like the KKK, but they do also mostly hold stereotypical views of African-Americans, Hispanics and Muslims that they’ve heard all of their lives and forms the common mythology of conservatism. They don’t understand how life is very different for African-Americans because its not something they have ever been taught or had to experience for themselves.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:41:56am

re: #499 JordanRules

Right. Why did 93% of black women voters not fall for the fake news and propaganda that everyone was subjected to?

Right.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:42:25am

re: #497 Nyet

The majority of the white voters voted for the sex predator, while the minorities, who are statistically worse off economically, voted for the right candidate.

Are the minority voters more informed than the white, straight ones? Question then is, why.

Which gets me to my argument with people who claim the Dems have lost the working class. We have but what a lot of those people i.e. Sanders and those who think like him don’t want to admit is a lot of those voters had prejudices that the Republican Party exploited. Same people also romanticize the Dem party of 32-64 ignoring that FDR never signed legislation condemning lynching, signed the internment of the Japanese, etc. That is a great question though in its eslf though.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:43:38am

re: #500 bratwurst

Shit. RIP, Alan.

He may have been a token liberal at Fox once upon a time, but it’s clear he was also sincere in his views.

Too young. 😩

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:44:03am

re: #502 Big Beautiful Door

Yes, but my point is they aren’t watching the news or on twitter or websites like this. They don’t think of themselves as racists and don’t approve of open bigots like the KKK, but they do also mostly hold stereotypical views of African-Americans, Hispanics and Muslims that they’ve heard all of their lives and forms the common mythology of conservatism. They don’t understand how live is very different for African-Americans because its not something they have ever been taught or had to experience for themselves.

In my economically well off county, there were more “I Back the Blue” signs - which really means “Why can’t cops kill black people?” - than Hillary signs.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:44:09am

re: #501 Nyet

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A real socialist party would have seen the Krupps as the enemy. It’s true, the Nazis did have a “left wing” but it’s also true that they were purged very early on.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:44:47am

re: #505 Nyet

Shit. RIP, Alan.

He may have been a token liberal at Fox once upon a time, but it’s clear he was also sincere in his views.

Too young. 😩

I am sure he thought he could convince people if he just told them the facts.

Instead, he made himself a punching bag for Hannity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:44:56am
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:45:28am

re: #499 JordanRules

Right. Why did 93% of black women voters not fall for the fake news and propaganda that everyone was subjected to?

Because they have to live with racism on a daily basis.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:45:29am

re: #508 The Vicious Babushka

I am sure he thought he could convince people if he just told them the facts.

Instead, he made himself a punching bag for Hannity.

He really was between a rock and a hard place there. My conclusion with hindsight is he probably was too nice a man for the punditry.

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CongoJack  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:45:30am

re: #500 bratwurst

Damn!

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I at one time listened to my local progressive talk radio channel here in Colorado (which is now psychologists shows and utter crap - last I checked - they went to this platform in 2012 if memory serves). Alan Colmes was on late at night - midnight - live - and the people that would call in would mostly be conservative and absolutely drunk off their ass. The only thing those people would ramble about would be how horrible libruls were and how hot Alan’s wife was. I’ll always remember Alan as a person who had to wade through too much shit too often.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:45:50am

re: #507 HappyWarrior

A real socialist party would have seen the Krupps as the enemy. It’s true, the Nazis did have a “left wing” but it’s also true that they were purged very early on.

The divide between the left and the right is often blurry (I could go on and on about the similarities of the Soviet and Nazi systems). But one thing the Nazis weren’t is socialist.

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:46:02am

re: #346 Anymouse

Down in that Politico article, a pair of sentences that pretty much sums up this whole road show in DC:

The one that really got me was the guy who said “The problem is that this is the Trump administration, and one has to surmise that he is not where the president is on some of his zanier days.”

The President of the United States on one of his “zanier days”. Those are flabbergasting words.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:46:48am

re: #508 The Vicious Babushka

His after-Fox blog convinced me of his sincerity.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:46:54am

re: #513 Nyet

The divide between the left and the right is often blurry (I could go on and on about the similarities of the Soviet and Nazi systems). But one thing the Nazis weren’t is socialist.

Exactly. And as you already pointed out, it’s absurd to use the National Socialist label and them calling themselves socialist as “proof.” I think there’s a good reason why fascism is called “third way.”

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:47:12am

When Shultz dies he won’t get a single kind word from me.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:48:05am

re: #516 HappyWarrior

Exactly. And as you already pointed out, it’s absurd to use the National Socialist label and them calling themselves socialist as “proof.” I think there’s a good reason why fascism is called “third way.”

Yep. I mean, the Nazis were rhetorically anti-capitalist until the end, by which they mostly meant the “Jewish capital”.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:48:24am

re: #517 Nyet

When Shultz dies he won’t get a single kind word from me.

Ed? That guy’s a dingnus. I never liked him even when he claimed to be on the left.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:48:33am

sigh…

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CongoJack  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:49:05am

re: #517 Nyet

Seconded - and I was a fan at one time.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:49:29am

re: #518 Nyet

Yep. I mean, the Nazis were rhetorically anti-capitalist until the end, by which they mostly meant the “Jewish capital”.

Exactly. And we have to remember they were trying to appeal to the electorate too. Pro-socialist rhetoric worked with the urban working class in those days.

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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:49:31am

re: #502 Big Beautiful Door

I’d say most people are not informed like we are and don’t like politics. And yet plenty of them didn’t vote for him. He got more coverage (even local) and live events on TV than anyone ever. I don’t mind you trying to see the best in folks as a general human rule, but sometimes it becomes a crutch for some ugly truths which helps them stay in the bubble you described.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:51:35am

re: #522 HappyWarrior

Exactly. And we have to remember they were trying to appeal to the electorate too. Pro-socialist rhetoric worked with the urban working class in those days.

Of course socialism means public (read: state) ownership of property. The Nazi Germany had private property.

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Targetpractice  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:52:02am

You know, I might buy this whole “economic anxiety” business except for one thing: I remember the Great Recession, it wasn’t that long ago. Too much focus is put on Reagan and the mass exodus of jobs overseas, but I watched as millions of my fellow Americans lost their jobs and years worth of accumulated wealth practically overnight. People forced to live off savings, off retirement funds, off the generosity of their fellow man. And too many of these “woe is me” jackasses who now want me to feel bad for them were yelling things like “Move where the jobs are!” and “Learn marketable skills!”

Now all those who offered that “advise” are wanting the government to come and give them jobs so they don’t have to move out of their podunk towns or learn new skills themselves. Coal miners wanting the government to make mines hire them back, line workers hoping the government will create jobs for them at the local factory, etc, etc. All those “deficit hawks” who would bellyache at length about the “debt being left to their grandkids” now wanting the government to spend money giving them jobs.

Funny that…

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CongoJack  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:53:35am

re: #524 Nyet

And means of production:
- Communisim = state control of means of production
- Socialism = state regulation of means of production
- Capitalism = free for fucking all

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:54:57am

re: #524 Nyet

Of course socialism means public (read: state) ownership of property. The Nazi Germany had private property.

Exactly. In fact, next time this debate, I think the person should be asked to name industries in Nazi Germany that was nationalized that isn’t in the U.S. I’ll concede. Nazi Germany wasn’t free market right wing paradise but there’s so much more ot politics than that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:55:17am

apparently Mitch is only appearing at Chamber of Commerce luncheons.

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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:56:29am

re: #528 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kentucky is not letting up on Mitch, good for them!

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BeachDem  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:56:32am

re: #498 The Vicious Babushka

My hairdresser is a wingnut. She is a “small business owner” who has an unlicensed beauty salon in her basement. Last time I was there (2 weeks ago) she was like “I heard they are going to indict Hillary Clinton”

ME: No, that’s idiotic.

SHE: For Benghazi…

ME: That’s bullshit!

SHE: Eek!

ME: Sorry for the cussing.

SHE: I think there was a cover up.

ME: If there was a “cover up” there would be ZERO investigation, not 12 investigations that turned up NOTHING.

SHE: But…

ME: Just stop this please. It’s super stupid.

My hairdresser is a Dem, but most of her clients are Republicans. We have a special signal to recognize when there are only Dems in the shop and we can talk politics and not lose a bunch of customers for her. Other times, we just roll our eyes in unison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:58:42am
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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 7:58:44am

re: #526 CongoJack

And means of production:
- Communisim = state control of means of production
- Socialism = state regulation of means of production
- Capitalism = free for fucking all

Under capitalism means of production can certainly be regulated (see the Nordic capitalism).

Both Communism and socialism have “social ownership” of the means of production, which in practice boils down to the state ownership.

Both unbridled capitalism and socialism suck (and communism is unattainable). AFAIC the best system is the socially responsible capitalism.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:00:21am

re: #526 CongoJack

And means of production:
- Communisim = state control of means of production
- Socialism = state regulation of means of production
- Capitalism = free for fucking all market based control of the means of production

While I like a regulated version of capitalism, in and of itself it’s not a free for all.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:01:10am
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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:01:43am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:02:15am

The problem is too many Americans think there’s our system and there’s what happened in the USSR, There in fact are a lot of variants. That’s why someone should never call themselves a capitalist or socialist. i know I adhere to tenets of both schools of thoughts.

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sagehen  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:03:12am

re: #525 Targetpractice

Now all those who offered that “advise” are wanting the government to come and give them jobs so they don’t have to move out of their podunk towns or learn new skills themselves. Coal miners wanting the government to make mines hire them back, line workers hoping the government will create jobs for them at the local factory, etc, etc. All those “deficit hawks” who would bellyache at length about the “debt being left to their grandkids” now wanting the government to spend money giving them jobs.

Funny that…

Similarly, remember when drug addicts were morally indefensible, inner-city black people who there was something wrong with their culture, all their own fault…

Until heroin became a rust belt/appalachia white people epidemic (especially prevalent in the counties that gave Trump his biggest margins). Now it’s a sad sad thing and totally not their fault and why don’t we feel for them….

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:03:52am

re: #536 HappyWarrior

The problem is too many Americans think there’s our system and there’s what happened in the USSR, There in fact are a lot of variants. That’s why someone should never call themselves a capitalist or socialist. i know I adhere to tenets of both schools of thoughts.

The Golden Middle is not always a sound principle, but in this case it is, IMHO.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:04:04am

re: #523 JordanRules

I’d say most people are not informed like we are and don’t like politics. And yet plenty of them didn’t vote for him. He got more coverage (even local) and live events on TV than anyone ever. I don’t mind you trying to see the best in folks as a general human rule, but sometimes it becomes a crutch for some ugly truths which helps them stay in the bubble you described.

I work with them and live with them, and individually many of them are very nice people. But they’ve been taught certain things their whole lives and have very little understanding of perspectives outside their own, and our highly segregated communities, and “America, fuck yeah!” educational system contribute to that.

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:04:22am

re: #396 wheat-dogg

So, it seems that Kill the Public Schools bill HR 610 may be dead in the water, because the homeschoolers, of all people, don’t like it.

crooksandliars.com

Since they don’t really care what anyone says, whether friend or foe, I am putting this in the “Let’s See” file.

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CongoJack  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:04:44am

re: #532 Nyet

re: #533 Belafon

Let me correct - the conservative ideal of capitalism - the pure form - Laissez-faire Capitalism. I believe those in power desire that form of capitalism (and thus I mark it as the definition as this is the lingo they use when selling it to the masses). I personally prefer Socialism in the form of the Scandinavian countries.

Hope that clears my post up. And sorry if I am incoherent, I am starving as I am fasting for a medical test this afternoon.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:05:03am

re: #538 Nyet

The Golden Middle is not always a sound principle, but in this case it is, IMHO.

Right.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:05:21am

One thing many people get tripped on is welfare state.
It’s not socialist. Yes, the Nazis had a welfare state, just like many other capitalist countries do.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:05:21am

re: #536 HappyWarrior

The problem is too many Americans think there’s our system and there’s what happened in the USSR, There in fact are a lot of variants. That’s why someone should never call themselves a capitalist or socialist. i know I adhere to tenets of both schools of thoughts.

That’s why I want people to start thinking of them as tools you use in particular situations. They’re not positions you take. My analogy is that you shouldn’t be a hammerist either. Not every problem is a nail and not every problem can be solved by the free market.

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I cannot.  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:06:04am

I am a socialist that wants to be rich.

I am a capitalist that wants to pay for what society needs.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:06:28am

Hell even in the Soviet Union, there were variants. Lenin’s economic practices were different from Stalin’s. Same thing with China, Mao’s differed from Deng Xiaoping.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:07:25am

re: #541 CongoJack

Let me correct - the conservative ideal of capitalism - the pure form - Laissez-faire Capitalism. I believe those in power desire that form of capitalism (and thus I mark it as the definition as this is the lingo they use when selling it to the masses). I personally prefer Socialism in the form of the Scandinavian countries.

Hope that clears my post up. And sorry if I am incoherent, I am starving as I am fasting for a medical test this afternoon.

No problem. I just think it’s a misnomer to refer to the Scandinavian countries as socialist. They’re capitalist. They’re just not crazy.

Danish PM in US: Denmark is not socialist

PS: if one does choose to refer to them as socialist, I think the conclusion that the Nazi Germany was also socialist is inescapable.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:07:59am
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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:09:32am

re: #404 wheat-dogg

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:11:10am
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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:11:15am

re: #417 Belafon

I caught about 30 seconds of KellyAnne on Fox this morning. She was talking about the protests and her comment that all of the F&F were agreeing with was that the protesters “weren’t offering solutions.”

And women hate powerful women which is why we don’t like that lying POS. Yeah, that’s totally it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:11:48am

re: #536 HappyWarrior

The problem is too many Americans think there’s our system and there’s what happened in the USSR, There in fact are a lot of variants. That’s why someone should never call themselves a capitalist or socialist. i know I adhere to tenets of both schools of thoughts.

My view of socialism is that it means state ownership of the means of production, which in communism is just a phase before the state withers away. Thus I think all western nations are capitalist, in that they have private ownership of property and private for-profit companies and stock markets, but simply have differing levels of regulation and taxation to distribute the wealth generated by the capitalist economic system.

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DuckDharma  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:12:26am

re: #550 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jesus Christ, even Cernovich banned Spencer from Deploraball. Made his dumb ass wait outside until the party let out.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:13:01am

re: #548 FormerDirtDart

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So wait these people complain about hate crimes legislations being “thought crimes” and yet she wants to arrest people for crimes they might “potentially” do. Fuck that shit. But hey, let’s cry about how a conservative bigot like Milo is treated and we’re teh true friends of free peach ere.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:13:38am

re: #550 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Spencer being there is worse than Milo having been invited.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:13:54am
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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:15:26am

re: #556 Backwoods_Sleuth

If it’s a military operation, we have laws against that on domestic soil.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:16:04am

re: #552 Big Beautiful Door

My view of socialism is that it means state ownership of the means of production, which in communism is just a phase before the state withers away. Thus I think all western nations are capitalist, in that they have private ownership of property and private for-profit companies and stock markets, but simply have differing levels of regulation and taxation to distribute the wealth generated by the capitalist economic system.

There is a very theoretical issue at stake here, namely that capital and private property overlap, but are not necessarily identical in nature.

When a company is too big to fail, then it is too big to remain unregulated. At that point, capital also becomes a national resource to a certain degree, and not just private property.

But that is way too nuanced an approach to be made part of any political platform, at least in the current USofA

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Franklin  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:16:38am

re: #557 Belafon

If it’s a military operation, we have laws against that on domestic soil.

The man truly doesn’t understand that words have actual meaning.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:17:11am

re: #552 Big Beautiful Door

My view of socialism is that it means state ownership of the means of production, which in communism is just a phase before the state withers away. Thus I think all western nations are capitalist, in that they have private ownership of property and private for-profit companies and stock markets, but simply have differing levels of regulation and taxation to distribute the wealth generated by the capitalist economic system.

Yep!

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:18:51am

re: #558 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a very theoretical issue at stake here, namely that capital and private property overlap, but are not necessarily identical in nature.

When a company is too big to fail, then it is too big to remain unregulated. At that point, capital also becomes a national resource to a certain degree, and not just private property.

But that is way too nuanced an approiach to be made part of any political platform, at least in the current USofA

If you have to explain, you’re losing. In the US, the only political ideas that work are those that can be boiled down to a simple phrase at most. Which is why the Democrats current slogan should be, “Republicans will take away your healthcare coverage!” Then the GOP is put in the place of trying to explain.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:19:16am

Bernie Sanders is not a socialist.

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Franklin  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:19:52am

re: #557 Belafon

If it’s a military operation, we have laws against that on domestic soil.

But we had a president that said 57 states while campaigning so, both sides.

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(alpuz)  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:20:09am

re: #550 Backwoods_Sleuth

Big tent?

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Stanley Sea  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:20:48am

re: #549 MsJ

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Serious question, is this legal?

Would you call the ACLU & refuse?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:21:10am
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:21:21am

re: #564 (alpuz)

Big tent?

ranging all the way from Nazis to Christian fundamentalists to libertarians.

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:21:35am

re: #555 HappyWarrior

He paid, and CPAC is nothing but capitalist. They’ll take his money just as surely as the other suckers coming to hear extremists talk.

Never mind that he gets to mix and mingle with like minded extremists. That’s the whole purpose of this confab.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:23:19am

Trump just made Jeff Immelt describe the time Trump hit a hole-in-one Trump: “I actually said I was the best golfer of all the rich people”

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(alpuz)  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:24:15am

re: #567 Big Beautiful Door

Just no pedophi…. oh wait, just no KNOWN pedophiles.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:25:08am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:25:28am
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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:27:45am

re: #571 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hmph, that’s cute with the Breitbart sponsor banners as the backdrop.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:27:53am

re: #571 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So much for the tolerant right.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:28:50am

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:28:55am

re: #571 Backwoods_Sleuth

While I was interviewing Richard Spencer, security came to escort him off the property

He’s currently being escorted out of CPAC by security

Maybe not so much…

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:31:00am

Where’s Kellyanne?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:32:13am

re: #578 Nyet

Where’s Kellyanne?

At CPAC

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:32:25am

re: #500 bratwurst

There’s something so phony about all the Fox News people tweeting how wonderful Colmes was. How can they then say all Liberals are horrible people. How do you get paid to espouse that all libs suck and love that lib.

I am glad that he was so generally loved, but the love/hate from Fox News is whiplash inducing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:33:19am
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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:33:25am

Boehner got out at the right time - after enabling the GOP shit show of nonstop repeal votes against Obamacare, he now states that it’s “not gonna happen.”

The GOP base bought this shitshow. They’re the ones who don’t know Obamacare = ACA. They’re the ones that hate Obamacare with a passion, but don’t touch those laws that prohibit insurers from dropping people with preexisting conditions or that allow dependents up to age 26, or that got rid of lifetime caps. Or that provide birth control.

Yeah, the ACA did all that. It also began exposing what health care actually costs (transparency) - there’s a lot more on that to be done, but teh GOP repeal efforts would roll all of this back.

Because the GOP is more concerned with repealing something that has worked beyond what the GOP ever imagined - and that’s despite 8 years of nontstop kneecapping. Uninsured rates are lowest we’ve seen in US, and would be lower still had the GOP expanded Medicaid in GOP controlled states - which also happen to harbor the most uninsureds to this day. They’d benefit the most, and the GOP is fucking those folks over.

But that’s how the GOP rolls.

And Boehner gets to smugly take drags on his cigarettes while the GOP prepares to fuck over millions of Americans without them truly realizing the scope of what the GOP intends to do. Ignorance benefits the GOP. It’s how they’ve accomplished what they have so far, and the misinformation continues to spew forth from Ryan’s feed on a daily basis.

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:35:03am

re: #576 The Vicious Babushka

You know who a rich guy is? Jack Nicklaus has an estimated net worth of $280 million. Tiger Woods is worth an estimated $740 million.

Both of those guys are better than Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:35:22am
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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:35:42am

re: #583 lawhawk

Trump isn’t good, he just cheats.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:36:31am

re: #583 lawhawk

You know who a rich guy is? Jack Nicklaus has an estimated net worth of $280 million. Tiger Woods is worth an estimated $740 million.

Both of those guys are better than Trump.

They have more money too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:37:53am

As I’ve said. Either pointless bragging or stupid whining.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:40:30am
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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:43:01am

re: #588 Backwoods_Sleuth

Freeze Peach.

Will Milo condemn CPAC?

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:43:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:45:15am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:50:26am

PROJECTING LIKE AN IMAX IN OUTER SPACE

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:50:37am
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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:50:48am

re: #556 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, the national embarrassment. The complete fucking up of every aspect of American society. Republican’s usurping democracy in multiple states, using CBP as brownshirts. I…literally can’t even.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:51:59am

re: #588 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Grooming the lost boys.

That article yesterday was horribly good.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:52:02am

If I could even, I would.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:52:10am

re: #592 The Vicious Babushka

PROJECTING LIKE AN IMAX IN OUTER SPACE

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Whine much Ted? I’m looking forward to Beto O’Rourke sending you into an early retirement.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:52:57am

CPAC: Still whiny even when they win.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:54:25am
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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:55:17am

Get it kitty!

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Targetpractice  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:55:19am

re: #593 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Except he really hasn’t sacrificed any of those. The man takes weekends off to fly to Mar-a-Lago on the taxpayer dime. Despite what his lawyer spend 20 minutes or so telling us, he’s divested none of his businesses and has kept control over them through his sons. He has his daughter serving as his First Lady while his wife sits in the family mansion in NYC. He is every bit the rich asshole he was six months ago.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:55:37am

Public Service Announcement:

It’s their second article on the recall, and neither includes the specific items (lot numbers, date of manufacture) or a link to the recall web page

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Targetpractice  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:56:56am

re: #599 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, you have to see things through the lens of Republicans. If you’re confronting them at town halls, then you’re not their base, you’re a paid agitator. Their base are the ones who watch Trump have a stroke on live TV and think he “knocked it out of the park.”

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:57:47am

re: #583 lawhawk

You know who a rich guy is? Jack Nicklaus has an estimated net worth of $280 million. Tiger Woods is worth an estimated $740 million.

Both of those guys are better than Trump.

Both probably have more money than Trump, too. At least before he became the emolument potus.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 8:59:26am

re: #599 Backwoods_Sleuth

For Cruz, Voters = Republicans.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:00:24am

Now, that’s gonna bunch-up a hell of a lot of panties…

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:01:10am
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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:03:42am

re: #606 FormerDirtDart

Now, that’s gonna bunch-up a hell of a lot of panties…

I wish he’d said Christian rather than specifically Catholic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:08:35am
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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:08:38am
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BeachDem  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:08:57am

re: #569 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I see Ivanka, as usual, is there to schmooze—is that Jared, solver of all middle east problems, sitting next to the yam?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:09:23am
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sagehen  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:09:53am

re: #601 Targetpractice

Except he really hasn’t sacrificed any of those. The man takes weekends off to fly to Mar-a-Lago on the taxpayer dime. Despite what his lawyer spend 20 minutes or so telling us, he’s divested none of his businesses and has kept control over them through his sons. He has his daughter serving as his First Lady while his wife sits in the family mansion in NYC. He is every bit the rich asshole he was six months ago.

He’s much richer, and more of an asshole, than he was six months ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:11:18am

guessing how things went the last couple of days at other Chamber of Commerce luncheons has Mitch askeert:

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:11:49am

re: #610 MsJ

Interesting. I wonder if Sessions is throwing things because of that 8-0 decision.

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BeachDem  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:12:27am

re: #588 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And of course:

Spencer is now being interviewed by MSNBC outside of CPAC

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:13:17am

re: #616 BeachDem

And of course:

He loves the publicity he gets.

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:14:23am

re: #615 Belafon

Interesting. I wonder if Sessions is throwing things because of that 8-0 decision.

That was my first thought, too.

Bust the laws that support people in any fashion, and especially those laws that affect people who are the least represented and most vulnerable. That is the Republican way.

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BeachDem  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:15:05am

re: #593 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Was that Kellyanne comment translated from another language, because it barely resembles English.
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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:18:41am

More Trump than Trump (or Reagan):

GENESIS - Land of Confusion (1986)

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BeachDem  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:18:44am

re: #617 HappyWarrior

He loves the publicity he gets.

And MSNBC loves giving it to him.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:19:30am

re: #618 MsJ

That was my first thought, too.

Bust the laws that support people in any fashion, and especially those laws that affect people who are the least represented and most vulnerable. That is the Republican way.

8-0 means he’d most likely lose any lawsuit resulting from his attempt to end protections of disabled kids. Thus, he’d need Congress to do it, and that wouldn’t go over well. There are quite a few middle and upper middle class people with disabled kids that go to school.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:19:32am
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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:19:57am

re: #621 BeachDem

And MSNBC loves giving it to him.

Maybe they’re hoping someone will punch him on air.

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:20:29am

re: #499 JordanRules

Right. Why did 93% of black women voters not fall for the fake news and propaganda that everyone was subjected to?

Trained eye.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:21:11am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:22:02am

re: #602 FormerDirtDart

Public Service Announcement:

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It’s their second article on the recall, and neither includes the specific items (lot numbers, date of manufacture) or a link to the recall web page

I just ate a Sargento snack pack deal. Literally finished it and scrolled to this tweet.

Argh.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:23:21am

“…A potential cyber hack of Manafort’s daughter’s phone revealed texts allegedly showing Ukrainian parliamentarian member Serhiy Leshchenko threatening to expose damaging information about Manafort and Trump, Politico reported….”

“…Manafort confirmed the authenticity of the texts coming from his daughter’s phone, but did not comment directly to Politico about what they said. …”

“…Leshchenko categorically denied the texts and said he had “nothing to do” with them….”

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:23:43am
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Anymouse  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:24:26am

re: #525 Targetpractice

Now all those who offered that “advise” are wanting the government to come and give them jobs so they don’t have to move out of their podunk towns or learn new skills themselves. Coal miners wanting the government to make mines hire them back, line workers hoping the government will create jobs for them at the local factory, etc, etc. All those “deficit hawks” who would bellyache at length about the “debt being left to their grandkids” now wanting the government to spend money giving them jobs.

Funny that…

Well, I’ll take issue with part of that.

What was it Franklin Roosevelt did during the Great Depression? Oh yes, he created jobs in these podunk towns where I live. Everything from the CCC to the REA.

As for “moving out of these podunk towns and learn a new skill”: Well there are problems with that as well.

Did you know for example in many (most?) rural areas you cannot get a home loan any more? If someone cannot get a home loan, that makes your home a lot less valuable to sell. (I would note here we paid cash for our house, we didn’t try to get a loan. When we first showed interest in it, the real estate agent noted no one would loan money to buy a house in this area.)

The most valuable asset most people own is their home. We were fortunate that we could buy our house here without having sold our house in Oklahoma first.

And “move somewhere and get a job and education” would be nice if there were jobs, education funds and a place to get one, and people would hire a middle-aged person somewhere that retrained for another job.

And these podunk towns are where an awful lot of the nation’s food comes from. No one can simply abandon the Great Plains and turn it into a giant park. I can’t even afford a parking space in California or New York City, much less an apartment. (One month’s rent would be about a tenth of the value of my house.)

As for the “deficit hawks,” that only seems to matter when its Democrats in power. When its Republicans, all of a sudden, to quote Dick Cheney, “Deficits don’t matter.”

I’m thinking we might have to go the route of Ontario and go for the “guaranteed minimum income” idea (welfare for all). It would certainly get rid of a lot of red tape and government duplication. (I’m pretty sure the GOP will scotch that idea.)

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Ubiq  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:25:43am

re: #582 lawhawk

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And Boehner gets to smugly take drags on his cigarettes while the GOP prepares to fuck over millions of Americans without them truly realizing the scope of what the GOP intends to do. Ignorance benefits the GOP. It’s how they’ve accomplished what they have so far, and the misinformation continues to spew forth from Ryan’s feed on a daily basis.

I actually feel like Boehner’s heart was in the right place. Yes, I disagreed with his politics and he was by no means a moderate, but his stewardship of the house was hijacked by the Freedom Caucus idiots who believed that compromise was a cuck move, rather than the basic bedrock of how government is supposed to work.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:26:26am

re: #626 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s a terrible judge. There’s a reason why Marshall was pissed he was replacing him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:26:26am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:28:15am

re: #633 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, it would have been nice if you guys had voted before but thanks I guess.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:29:20am

WE MUST PROTECT OR BATHROOMS…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:31:13am

re: #635 FormerDirtDart

WE MUST PROTECT OR BATHROOMS…

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No pastors in rest rooms. //

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:31:16am

re: #634 HappyWarrior

Well, it would have been nice if you guys had voted before but thanks I guess.

Sometimes you have to smack people across the head with a two-by-four to get their attention. That’s what the election of Trump has done.

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Anymouse  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:31:24am

re: #382 Joe Bacon

Every time I see people suffering a full blown Stupid Attack, I remember as a kid how I was bedridden with measles for 3 weeks, so weak I could barely get out of bed to go to the bathroom. Mom was so worried that a couple nights she slept in a chair next to my bed.

In 2012 I had a group of 4H girls come by my house singing Christmas carols (they still do that here).

One was coming down with the mumps. I’d already had mumps when I was two, but you can get the mumps again as an adult, and a few days later I did.

105 degree fever, bits swelled up like oranges, couldn’t sit, VA sent a nurse round to my house to check up on me because “hell no we don’t want you in the hospital.”

Anti-vax mom. Adult mumps has a fairly high death rate. Thanks, Mom.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:32:26am

re: #611 BeachDem

I see Ivanka, as usual, is there to schmooze—is that Jared, solver of all middle east problems, sitting next to the yam?

They are there to rattle the keys at grandpa yam.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:32:51am

re: #630 Anymouse

Now all those who offered that “advise” are wanting the government to come and give them jobs so they don’t have to move out of their podunk towns or learn new skills themselves. Coal miners wanting the government to make mines hire them back, line workers hoping the government will create jobs for them at the local factory, etc, etc. All those “deficit hawks” who would bellyache at length about the “debt being left to their grandkids” now wanting the government to spend money giving them jobs.

Funny that…

Well, I’ll take issue with part of that.

What was it Franklin Roosevelt did during the Great Depression? Oh yes, he created jobs in these podunk towns where I live. Everything from the CCC to the REA.

As for “moving out of these podunk towns and learn a new skill”: Well there are problems with that as well.

Did you know for example in many (most?) rural areas you cannot get a home loan any more? If someone cannot get a home loan, that makes your home a lot less valuable to sell. (I would note here we paid cash for our house, we didn’t try to get a loan. When we first showed interest in it, the real estate agent noted no one would loan money to buy a house in this area.)

The most valuable asset most people own is their home. We were fortunate that we could buy our house here without having sold our house in Oklahoma first.

And “move somewhere and get a job and education” would be nice if there were jobs, education funds and a place to get one, and people would hire a middle-aged person somewhere that retrained for another job.

And these podunk towns are where an awful lot of the nation’s food comes from. No one can simply abandon the Great Plains and turn it into a giant park. I can’t even afford a parking space in California or New York City, much less an apartment. (One month’s rent would be about a tenth of the value of my house.)

As for the “deficit hawks,” that only seems to matter when its Democrats in power. When its Republicans, all of a sudden, to quote Dick Cheney, “Deficits don’t matter.”

I’m thinking we might have to go the route of Ontario and go for the “guaranteed minimum income” idea (welfare for all). It would certainly get rid of a lot of red tape and government duplication. (I’m pretty sure the GOP will scotch that idea.)

He’s talking about the double standard. None of us as far as I know have a problem with what was done in the Depression but we do have a problem with these same voters calling us moochers and then wanting the same government ot help them. IT’s the double standard not the desire. They want “big government” for them but not for everyone else and that’s the real reason the New Deal Coalition eventually fell apart.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:33:04am

re: #635 FormerDirtDart

WE MUST PROTECT OUR BATHROOMS…
Tennessee pastor ties up and rapes teen he picked up outside her school

details sound really dodgy: she had worked for him as a house cleaner, so it was a case of “acquaintance rape” and he will certainly claim that it was consensual…she was into 50 Shades or the like

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:34:19am

Fun Factoid: there are lots more registered Democrats in Kentucky than Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:34:30am

re: #637 Big Beautiful Door

Sometimes you have to smack people across the head with a two-by-four to get their attention. That’s what the election of Trump has done.

Yeah that’s true. Hey maybe I’ll get a Dem Congressperoson yet.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:35:06am

re: #642 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fun Factoid: there are lots more registered Democrats in Kentucky than Republicans.

That’s abd. Need to work on that.

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sagehen  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:38:32am

re: #640 HappyWarrior

He’s talking about the double standard. None of us as far as I know have a problem with what was done in the Depression but we do have a problem with these same voters calling us moochers and then wanting the same government ot help them. IT’s the double standard not the desire. They want “big government” for them but not for everyone else and that’s the real reason the New Deal Coalition eventually fell apart.

Sorry, no, pure racism.

Conservatives, including (especially) white southern christian conservatives, were all-in for all the government programs. Well-financed public schools, free college, rural electrification, make-work WPA jobs, free transportation, parks & rec, swimming pools, FHA subsidies, libraries with long hours, generous farm subsidies and price supports, social security, medicare, etc etc etc. When it was only for white people.

As soon as the CRA and VRA passed, when these bennies were adjudicated to be for *everyone*, that’s when conservatives had their sudden epiphany that taxation is theft and government spending was morally wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:40:12am

re: #645 sagehen

Sorry, no, pure racism.

Conservatives, including (especially) white southern christian conservatives, were all-in for all the government programs. Well-financed public schools, free college, rural electrification, make-work WPA jobs, free transportation, parks & rec, swimming pools, FHA subsidies, libraries with long hours, generous farm subsidies and price supports, etc etc etc. When it was only for white people.

As soon as the CRA and VRA passed, when these bennies were adjudicated to be for *everyone*, that’s when conservatives had their sudden epiphany that taxation is theft and government spending was morally wrong.

You’re 100% right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:44:04am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:44:42am

Anyone know which article Hannity is referring to?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:45:23am
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makeitstop  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:46:10am

re: #648 FormerDirtDart

Anyone know which article Hannity is referring to?

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He quoted a SMOTI story claiming that Walnuts solicited campaign money from the Russians.

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:46:40am

re: #550 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is it okay to say I hate Matt Schlapp. Chris Matthews used to have him on all the damn time (probably still does) and he always tried to come off as the softer gentler Republican, but when it came down to it, he would excuse everything no matter how crazy or ugly. Just another Trump excuser that said Trump was in campaign mode and would change if elected.

And he has a punchable face…due to the nonsense that comes out of his mouth.

I did not know he was so involved in CPAC. I hate him even more now.

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Anymouse  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:46:54am

re: #460 Nyet

I’m not a politician so I’m free to say it: those Trump voters who are not outright vegetables are simply scumbags.

Now, obviously no politician would say that, and that’s OK. They should win these people’s votes too.

It doesn’t change who they are.

I am a politician so I’m free to say it: A good portion (majority?) of Trump’s voters were conned.

It’s the folk who didn’t vote, voted for third parties, or whatnot I am incensed at. They went into it with magic balance fairy arguments and such.

It must be nice to live in a place where you do not have only right-wing propaganda for news outlets. With newspapers, radio, and television that cover all sides of a story and not just the hard-right Republican one.

Propaganda is a hell of a drug.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:46:57am

re: #648 FormerDirtDart

Anyone know which article Hannity is referring to?

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:47:41am

re: #631 Ubiq

Gonna disagree since he enabled their baffling BS by not squashing it for being in realm of fantasy. He put his party’s power over facts, logic, or reality. He let his caucus think that if they only voted on repealing Obamacare one more time that it would be the one time that it sneaks by Obama and eliminates the law.

GOP obstructionism grew worse by orders of magnitude under his watch. That’s entirely on him. He valued his position more than doing the right thing (and he didn’t do the right thing either).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:47:44am

re: #651 ObserverArt

congrats on the new record!
;)

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:49:12am

Been a while since I did the whole update thing in the pages, but how do you do the update so that it shows time/date? Feel like a newbie forgetting how this stuff is done…

edited:

Never mind - figured it out. Was missing a colon after UPDATE…

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:49:38am

re: #648 FormerDirtDart

Anyone know which article Hannity is referring to?

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The one from Wikileaks via SMOTI about John McCain being a war criminal or something.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:50:27am

re: #656 lawhawk

Been a while since I did the whole update thing in the pages, but how do you do the update so that it shows time/date? Feel like a newbie forgetting how this stuff is done…

UPDATE:
followed by a blank line (or maybe two blank lines)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:51:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:54:11am
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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:54:45am

re: #652 Anymouse

A majority? You now think your uninformed theory extends from your tiny village to a possible majority of his voters? Wow. They are only watching those certain shows and consuming certain things for a reason. It’s willful.

They are racists, sexists, homophobes, anti-Semites, xenophobes. Deplorable! Willing enablers of the deplorables. The more you absolve them of this, let them play the victims and infantilise them, the worse it gets for their targets and for them.

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Anymouse  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:54:50am

Whelp, we’re getting a whole bunch of snow. Taking my wife to the doc in a couple hours ought to be a bunch of fun (not).

ggIRYFqoJJlFeuMLAcO8Zozq+7PQZqzd5xnbqvQrvlUHmHemMKrOporgbMTqu1VlEa23A9IMAL1UXy/xkSXs4YBy+0pPEAMNhXKBfvb/bj2FmkpJ730AQw==

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Anymouse  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:55:44am

Holy crap, I just got the sixth robocall trying to sell me stuff or something in the last half hour.

I really need to get a caller ID box.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:56:17am

re: #652 Anymouse

I am a politician so I’m free to say it: A good portion (majority?) of Trump’s voters were conned.

It’s the folk who didn’t vote, voted for third parties, or whatnot I am incensed at. They went into it with magic balance fairy arguments and such.

It must be nice to live in a place where you do not have only right-wing propaganda for news outlets. With newspapers, radio, and television that cover all sides of a story and not just the hard-right Republican one.

Propaganda is a hell of a drug.

You do realize Sergey lives in Russia right?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:56:33am

re: #657 The Vicious Babushka

The one from Wikileaks via SMOTI about John McCain being a war criminal or something.

Really bizarre “article”. But not really, considering Hannity—>Hoft—>Wikileaks causal chain.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:57:47am

re: #650 makeitstop

He quoted a SMOTI story claiming that Walnuts solicited campaign money from the Russians.

RedState—RedState!!—called Hannity out on it. Ripped Dim Jim.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:58:18am

Newsweek just published an op-ed by Ted Nugent.
No I’m not linking it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:58:41am

re: #667 The Vicious Babushka

Newsweek just published an op-ed by Ted Nugent.
No I’m not linking it.

Why………………

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Sir John Barron  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:58:59am

re: #648 FormerDirtDart

I retweeted an inaccurate article. My apologies to @SenJohnMcCain.

— Sean Hannity

“I apologize not really if anyone was offended….”

//

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Sir John Barron  Feb 23, 2017 • 9:59:24am

re: #667 The Vicious Babushka

Newsweek just published an op-ed by Ted Nugent.
No I’m not linking it.

Whut?

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:00:10am

re: #580 MsJ

There’s something so phony about all the Fox News people tweeting how wonderful Colmes was. How can they then say all Liberals are horrible people. How do you get paid to espouse that all libs suck and love that lib.

I am glad that he was so generally loved, but the love/hate from Fox News is whiplash inducing.

Just another indication that everyone at FOX News is an entertainer…an actor that acts for FOX viewers so they think they are conservative.

All those TV media people all hang together at events etc. They all know they do it as a job. That is why they liked Colmes, it is why MSNBC hired Greta and Megyn all for the show and to attract viewers.

And then you have the real mercenaries like Ed Shultz that doesn’t even try to hide he is full of shit and will say anything for a check.

They are all like hired pro athletes…you just move to a new team and learn a new playbook in a new system run by a new coach and owner.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:00:44am

re: #631 Ubiq

I actually feel like Boehner’s heart was in the right place. Yes, I disagreed with his politics and he was by no means a moderate, but his stewardship of the house was hijacked by the Freedom Caucus idiots who believed that compromise was a cuck move, rather than the basic bedrock of how government is supposed to work.

Yes, Boehner was a hack but he looks like a statesman compared to the current crowd.

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:00:57am

re: #633 Backwoods_Sleuth

People who get it.

Dave Woody, 71, who installs and assembles furniture, considers himself extremely liberal but he volunteered that Democrats need to rally behind a centrist to win in a district like Price’s. “A good candidate is a moderate who can get elected,” he said. “Not like me! I could never get elected!” Told that Ossoff has the support of John Lewis, who represents an adjacent district, he replied: “Anybody Lewis is in favor of, I’d support automatically. But that might mean he’s too liberal then.”

His daughter Morgan, 24, a barista at Starbucks, supported Bernie Sanders last year. “I’m just as liberal as my dad, but I too really think it will take a moderate,” she said. “The country is just so divided right now, and we really need someone who can bring both sides together.”

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sagehen  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:01:25am

re: #661 JordanRules

A majority? You now think your uninformed theory extends from your tiny village to a possible majority of his voters? Wow. They are only watching those certain shows and consuming certain things for a reason. It’s willful.

I’m not sure how willful it is. In most of the mid-west, Sinclair Media owns ALL the TV stations, including network affiliates, and exerts strict editorial control. It might as well be all-Fox. Some of the cable systems in that region specifically exclude MSNBC from basic cable. Radio is mostly right wing talk radio. Internet is too slow for them to read many newspapers (also, NYT/Wapo/LAT etc are paywalled after more than a few stories per month). These people really don’t have access to a diversity of media; it’s all about what comes across their Facebook feed or what they’re told in church.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:02:30am

re: #673 MsJ

People who get it.

Smart Dad and daughter. You have to understand the issues of the people in the electorate. I think Dave is underestimating Lewis’ pragmatism though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:04:35am

re: #667 The Vicious Babushka

Newsweek just published an op-ed by Ted Nugent.
No I’m not linking it.

A lot of drivel over very little…tossing the word “racist” around and arguing about Vietnam…Ted and Vietnam. What a laugh.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:04:36am

I do see what is meant about a lot of these rural areas but I’ll point out that plenty of well off areas did vote for Trump too. I just don’t like the narrative of wealthy urbanites/suburanites favored Hillary over Trump. That’s not necessarily the case. I’m in a well to do exburb where plenty of the parents of my brother’s classmates are well off and this area was still Trump turf. The county itself yes went Clinton but not because of my precinct.

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:05:23am

re: #593 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Damn Kellyanne almost brought a tear to my eye when I think of all that Trump has sacrificed.

Almost if almost meant pretty much never ever.

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:05:54am

re: #648 FormerDirtDart

Anyone know which article Hannity is referring to?

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Likely the one that stated McCain had ties to Russia (fundraising for him or giving him $ or some such. I saw it last night but didn’t bother reading it.)

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:06:17am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:07:01am

It looks like @safety is monitoring certain Twitter feeds to make sure that people don’t say “Fuck you” or “Shut up dipshit”
I got a 12-hour timeout last week for calling Julian Assange a “dumbass”

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BeachDem  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:07:05am

re: #674 sagehen

I’m not sure how willful it is. In most of the mid-west, Sinclair Media owns ALL the TV stations, including network affiliates, and exerts strict editorial control. It might as well be all-Fox. Some of the cable systems in that region specifically exclude MSNBC from basic cable. Radio is mostly right wing talk radio. Internet is too slow for them to read many newspapers (also, NYT/Wapo/LAT etc are paywalled after more than a few stories per month). These people really don’t have access to a diversity of media; it’s all about what comes across their Facebook feed or what they’re told in church.

But even if they only had access to right wing sources, they had to have heard/seen the words that actually came out of the yam’s mouth.

I stick with my concept of stupid or hateful or both.

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:07:30am

re: #600 JordanRules

Get it kitty!

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Looks like Kitteh ballet.

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Anymouse  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:10:01am

re: #661 JordanRules

A majority? You now think your uninformed theory extends from your tiny village to a possible majority of his voters? Wow. They are only watching those certain shows and consuming certain things for a reason. It’s willful.

They are racists, sexists, homophobes, anti-Semites, xenophobes. Deplorable! Willing enablers of the deplorables. The more you absolve them of this, let them play the victims and infantilise them, the worse it gets for their targets and for them.

And they have always been here. Wallace ran the same sorts of campaigns when it was much more acceptable and didn’t win outside his governorship.

I’m not absolving all Trump voters. I’m attacking the people who didn’t vote. The ones who saw no difference. And I am hardly infantilising anyone, nor am I “letting anyone play victim.”

Did you know the majority of my town’s adults have college diplomas? I am one of the least educated adults here.

And I am not just referring to my village. The pattern is repeated all across the country (there is a comment up the thread about someone driving across Kentucky and seeing a whole bunch of Jesus Saves and anti-abortion billboards, hate radio, &c). I can drive over a thousand miles and run into the same thing over and over. Propaganda is a helluva drug.

Unless and until the Democratic Party chooses to run candidates for all seats, all the time, we will be left in places like this with ballots that only have Republicans. It’s pretty much a fact that if you only have Republicans on the ballot, you can only elect Republicans.

“But I don’t have time” (yes you do if you have time to complain here you have time to serve on a school board or cemetery district). “I would not be good at it.” (Fine, you’ll learn.) “I don’t want to face angry constituents.” (Someone used that one here yesterday. Seems to be working fine for Republicans right now.) Every excuse under the sun except “I want to offer a different way by running for (name an office).”

The Democratic Party did not lose all those statehouses and town councils because the country is full of racists. It conceded without a fight.

Like it or not, we have to deal with the Electoral College. It will not be going away. Unless and until the Democrats want to fight for every electoral vote, they will continue to lose ground.

Run for office, or find someone who will.

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Anymouse  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:11:18am

re: #664 HappyWarrior

You do realize Sergey lives in Russia right?

No I didn’t.

I do want our country to keep from devolving to a one-party state like Russia though. Democrats don’t seem to have it in them to prevent that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:11:49am

re: #682 BeachDem

But even if they only had access to right wing sources, they had to have heard/seen the words that actually came out of the yam’s mouth.

I stick with my concept of stupid or hateful or both.

And I’ll point out again that you live in a red state and red region too. I am sorry but the helpless Trump voter meme is grinding on my gears big time here.

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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:12:29am

re: #674 sagehen

They’ve been choosing that way of life forever and voting to maintain it and they do it for bigoted reasons in my opinion.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:13:00am

re: #678 ObserverArt

Damn Kellyanne almost brought a tear to my eye when I think of all that Trump has sacrificed.

Almost if almost meant pretty much never ever.

I ran out of tissues.

//

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:13:19am

re: #681 The Vicious Babushka

Hmmm… so blocking people for sheer dumbassery or dumbfuckery is… okay? For now?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:13:25am

re: #680 FormerDirtDart

North Carolina billboard reading “Real men provide. Real women appreciate it” sparks outrage, protest

real men provide self-esteem, emotional and moral support…

anyone appreciates that

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:14:06am

re: #685 Anymouse

No I didn’t.

I do want our country to keep from devolving to a one-party state like Russia though. Democrats don’t seem to have it in them to prevent that.

Funny because I’m working on a campaign here. I got 20 people on Saturday to sign to get my candidate on the ballot and I’m going out again tomorrow and Saturday. I’m literally spending most of my free days off of work on a campaign. I don’t think the Dems are as incompetent as yo uwant to portray em.

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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:14:57am

re: #684 Anymouse

Do you think their college degrees exposed them to anything beyond what is being parroted on their limited media or the skills to think beyond the media? Sincere question.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:15:24am

re: #689 lawhawk

Hmmm… so blocking people for sheer dumbassery or dumbfuckery is… okay? For now?

Apparently it is only a no-no to cuss at celebrities. Run of the mill random dumbasses can still be told to fuck off.

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:16:54am

re: #608 Belafon

I wish he’d said Christian rather than specifically Catholic.

At one time speaking for the Catholic Church covered Christianity in general.

Today…not so much. But his words still carry considerable weight politically.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:16:54am

re: #688 Sir John Barron

I ran out of tissues.

//

I did as well….two days ago. Gotta go buy some more.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:17:55am

re: #678 ObserverArt

Damn Kellyanne almost brought a tear to my eye when I think of all that Trump has sacrificed.

Almost if almost meant pretty much never ever.

Well when Khizer Khan challenged Trump to describe what he had ever sacrificed in his life, Trump blah blahed about “great ratings” and “so much properties”

It’s like he doesn’t even know what words mean.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:17:59am

re: #684 Anymouse

And they have always been here. Wallace ran the same sorts of campaigns when it was much more acceptable and didn’t win outside his governorship.

I’m not absolving all Trump voters. I’m attacking the people who didn’t vote. The ones who saw no difference. And I am hardly infantilising anyone, nor am I “letting anyone play victim.”

Did you know the majority of my town’s adults have college diplomas? I am one of the least educated adults here.

And I am not just referring to my village. The pattern is repeated all across the country (there is a comment up the thread about someone driving across Kentucky and seeing a whole bunch of Jesus Saves and anti-abortion billboards, hate radio, &c). I can drive over a thousand miles and run into the same thing over and over. Propaganda is a helluva drug.

Unless and until the Democratic Party chooses to run candidates for all seats, all the time, we will be left in places like this with ballots that only have Republicans. It’s pretty much a fact that if you only have Republicans on the ballot, you can only elect Republicans.

“But I don’t have time” (yes you do if you have time to complain here you have time to serve on a school board or cemetery district). “I would not be good at it.” (Fine, you’ll learn.) “I don’t want to face angry constituents.” (Someone used that one here yesterday. Seems to be working fine for Republicans right now.) Every excuse under the sun except “I want to offer a different way by running for (name an office).”

The Democratic Party did not lose all those statehouses and town councils because the country is full of racists. It conceded without a fight.

Like it or not, we have to deal with the Electoral College. It will not be going away. Unless and until the Democrats want to fight for every electoral vote, they will continue to lose ground.

Run for office, or find someone who will.

Are you seriously going to crap on Klys and I for admitting we’re not cut out for office? I have a stutter. Listen, I do what I can in politics and for people. I spent a good part of this morning trying to find a good attorney for a client. I’ve helped make the immigration process easier for individual clients too. I don’t do elected politics in part because I am not a good speaker and I feel it’s not for me. I am suporting a candidate for the VA governor’s race. I may even get training to become a petition captain. There’s a difference between not thinking elected office is for you and being completely apathetic.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:18:27am

re: #694 ObserverArt

At one time speaking for the Catholic Church covered Christianity in general.

Today…not so much. But his words still carry considerable weight politically.

Agree. And a non-Catholic would blow him off for saying it. I do like the statement. Maybe some other minister can pick it up and run with it.

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:18:29am

Jesus Christ…this guy. Did you listen to this recording? This guy is nucking futz.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:19:27am

re: #698 Belafon

Agree. And a non-Catholic would blow him off for saying it. I do like the statement. Maybe some other minister can pick it up and run with it.

Paging the Episcopalian Church..

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:20:30am

re: #619 BeachDem

Was that Kellyanne comment translated from another language, because it barely resembles English.
/

That’s in Conservative language. It doesn’t need to make sense.

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Anymouse  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:22:47am

re: #686 HappyWarrior

And I’ll point out again that you live in a red state and red region too. I am sorry but the helpless Trump voter meme is grinding on my gears big time here.

And it grinds on my gears that everyone in a red state is a hateful bigot.

You know what our TV and radio didn’t air during Trump’s campaign? Stuff like him mocking a disabled reporter, or any of his Russia connections. None of it. They still don’t.

I certainly can’t speak for all red staters (or even all those in my state), but round here most folk are pretty much only interested in getting along with their lives. We don’t have roving bands of people looking to destroy Jewish cemeteries or beat Muslims. Our state per capita has the highest percentage of refugees (must be because we have all those bigots).

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:27:21am

re: #702 Anymouse

And it grinds on my gears that everyone in a red state is a hateful bigot.

You know what our TV and radio didn’t air during Trump’s campaign? Stuff like him mocking a disabled reporter, or any of his Russia connections. None of it. They still don’t.

I certainly can’t speak for all red staters (or even all those in my state), but round here most folk are pretty much only interested in getting along with their lives. We don’t have roving bands of people looking to destroy Jewish cemeteries or beat Muslims. Our state per capita has the highest percentage of refugees (must be because we have all those bigots).

Did I ever say every last person in Nebraska was a bigot? No, I didn’t. What I have said and it’s not complex is a lot of these people do vote against the Democratic party because of their resentments. And guess what, they do, they resent that the Democrats are a party that stands up for people of all socio-economic backgrounds. And let me point out again that BWS and BD live in staets just as red as yours but they don’t have the illusion that people in their state voted for Trump because they had no other choice. They’re not helpless victims. They had free will. Maybe a lot of them don’t have the same internet access or media I do but as I pointed out to you regarding Sergei, he’s in Russia and he gets much more less independent media than they do.

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BeachDem  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:27:43am

re: #691 HappyWarrior

Funny because I’m working on a campaign here. I got 20 people on Saturday to sign to get my candidate on the ballot and I’m going out again tomorrow and Saturday. I’m literally spending most of my free days off of work on a campaign. I don’t think the Dems are as incompetent as yo uwant to portray em.

And I need to find a new venue for our Dem women’s group meetings as we have outgrown the place we currently meet—in a red county in a red district in a red state that currently has not one Dem in statewide office.

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Anymouse  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:28:02am

re: #697 HappyWarrior

Are you seriously going to crap on Klys and I for admitting we’re not cut out for office? I have a stutter. Listen, I do what I can in politics and for people. I spent a good part of this morning trying to find a good attorney for a client. I’ve helped make the immigration process easier for individual clients too. I don’t do elected politics in part because I am not a good speaker and I feel it’s not for me. I am suporting a candidate for the VA governor’s race. I may even get training to become a petition captain. There’s a difference between not thinking elected office is for you and being completely apathetic.

I’m not a good speaker either (I stutter), and I have epilepsy. I didn’t call you apathetic, as noted below:

re: #684 Anymouse

Run for office, or find someone who will.

Apparently you missed that part. You found someone who will, and are working with that person.

At this point, I need to bail out; I have to get ready to brave the snow and 30mph winds to go sixty miles to a doctor. (Fingers crossed my wife just has a blood blister under her toenail and not cancer.)

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:28:53am

re: #84 Kragar

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More than half the country needs to vote though. Being pissed afterwards does little to move us forward. I’m still disappointed that Secretary Clinton lost to Orange Hitler. I really hope that our side comes out in droves in 2018 and flips the Senate (and perhaps even the House). It’s going to be a bad 2 years until then.

On an optimistic note, it’s nice to see the push back and protests but many people are going to suffer while Trump is in office. Just look at what is happening to Native Americans in North Dakota. Huge sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:29:05am

re: #705 Anymouse

I’m not a good speaker either (I stutter), and I have epilepsy. I didn’t call you apathetic, as noted below:

Apparently you missed that part. You found someone who will, and are working with that person.

At this point, I need to bail out; I have to get ready to brave the snow and 30mph winds to go sixty miles to a doctor. (Fingers crossed my wife just has a blood blister under her toenail and not cancer.)

I apologize for missing that part. You did say that.

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:29:14am

re: #655 Backwoods_Sleuth

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congrats on the new record!
;)

We are setting new highs and new high-lows for these dates. I am living in historic times.

I hope it is not an indication that others may not be able to live on earth in the future.

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Anymouse  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:29:45am

I get a kick out of this fellow (Liberal Redneck)

Liberal Redneck - Muslim Ban

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EPR-radar  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:30:32am

re: #702 Anymouse

Voting for Trump is objectively the act of a hateful bigot, because that is what Trump clearly is.

If otherwise good people voted for Trump because of propaganda or whatever, that does not change what they did. They need to acknowledge that they personally voted for a hateful bigot, thereby providing material support for hateful bigotry in the US, in order to have any chance of learning from this experience and doing better next time.

Frankly, I’ll believe this can happen only when I see hard evidence for it.

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:31:43am

re: #708 ObserverArt

We are setting new highs and new high-lows for these dates. I am living in historic times.

I hope it is not an indication that others may not be able to live on earth in the future.

Edit to add: I am worried about tomorrow though. Going from 70 to 30 with extreme heat and moisture in the south and polar winds, temps and snow storms to the north means those in the middles are gonna get some damn nasty storms. I hate early spring storms. The winds and predictions of hail is not good.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:32:37am

Listen, even if you don’t have access to better media and news sources, you still would have heard Trump talking about kicking out an entire grope based off their religion. And if you still voted for him knowing that, then I am sorry but I can’t muster up much sympathy for you. Trump’s attacks on Muslim-Americans are an attack on all of us regardless of our religion or lack of. And these voters, some of them are our neighbors and hell some of them are our friends and family ignored that. Does that mean every last man and woman who voted for him wears a KKK and subscribes to Alt-right thought, no I don’t think so and I have never said that but I will continue to feel that those voters are indifferent to the suffering of other people.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:33:51am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:34:17am

re: #709 Anymouse

I get a kick out of this fellow (Liberal Redneck)

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He talks about Trump’s voters not that different from how many of us do frankly. Trae’s good though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:35:42am

re: #711 ObserverArt

Edit to add: I am worried about tomorrow though. Going from 70 to 30 with extreme heat and moisture in the south and polar winds, temps and snow storms to the north means those in the middles are gonna get some damn nasty storms. I hate early spring storms. The winds and predictions of hail is not good.

I’m seeing tomorrow’s forecast includes 60mph straight line winds, hail, and possible tornadoes.
Then it gets cold.

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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:36:27am

re: #712 HappyWarrior

Right. I’ve seen enough Fox to know what they are peddling and you have to be okay with it to continue to watch, even if there is no other cable news channel. There’s no way in hell I’d be seriously consuming Fox as news, it’s offensive as hell to my human sensibilities.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:38:18am

Anyhow, groundhog day again with this. I just want to make it perfectly clear I don’t think all red state voters are bigots. Hell this state went Republican for 44 consecutive years but I also understand the Southern Strategy and its side effects not just in the South but on voters as a whole. You have a party base that does often vote the way it does based off resentments. The Democrats could do a better job recruiting candidates. No argument at all there but people have to be willing to listen too. It’s a two way street. The party could do better but these people could try to get out of their bubbles too. It’s not just the internet. There are books as well.

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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:40:49am

re: #699 MsJ

Whoa!!!!

Like attracts like. POS45 would be proud I’m sure.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:41:40am

re: #716 JordanRules

Right. I’ve seen enough Fox to know what they are peddling and you have to be okay with it to continue to watch, even if there is no other cable news channel. There’s no way in hell I’d be seriously consuming Fox as news, it’s offensive as hell to my human sensibilities.

Right. I mean, I’m sorry, I just don’t see them as helpless. I see them as people who when faced with a qualified candidate with a plan chose an unqualified asshole with stupid rhetoric. I get that a lot of these areas have had troubles but there are plenty of poor and uneducated minority voters who saw through him. Poverty is no excuse for not seeing what an asshole Trump is. I am sorry if I sound like I’m saying everyone who lives in a red state/red county is a bigot. Hell I didn’t live in a blue county until 2004 and my state went Republican for 11 consecutive elections. We need to be bold and acknowledge that what our party stands for does bother a lot of these people.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:42:55am
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Timothy Watson  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:43:15am

People do realize that’s it hard to recruit candidates when they know they are going to be sacrificial lambs thanks to demographics and gerrymandering?

How many people do you know have 11 months to kill and might spend every night driving hundreds of miles to events?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:43:28am

re: #720 Dr. Matt

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Isn’t that Michael Cera. //

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:44:20am

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wow. How awful. I’m speechless.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:44:27am

re: #721 Timothy Watson

People do realize that’s it hard to recruit candidates when they know they are going to be sacrificial lambs thanks to demographics and gerrymandering?

How many people do you know have 11 months to kill and might spend every night driving hundreds of miles to events?

That’s a good point too.

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electrotek  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:44:58am

Fuck off with these ‘blasphemous rumors’ you Nazi scum:

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Dr. Matt  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:45:31am

re: #722 HappyWarrior

Isn’t that Michael Cera. //

Sadly, Cera has accomplished more in his life than O’Queef will his entire life.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:45:59am

re: #726 Dr. Matt

Sadly, Cera has accomplished more in his life than O’Queef will his entire life.

Super Bad and Arrested Development alone ensure that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:46:42am

re: #725 electrotek

Fuck off with these ‘blasphemous rumors’ you Nazi scum:

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Ouch, to know your favorite band hates you. Sucks to be Snowflake Spencer.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:47:21am

re: #719 HappyWarrior

Right. I mean, I’m sorry, I just don’t see them as helpless. I see them as people who when faced with a qualified candidate with a plan chose an unqualified asshole with stupid rhetoric. I get that a lot of these areas have had troubles but there are plenty of poor and uneducated minority voters who saw through him. Poverty is no excuse for not seeing what an asshole Trump is. I am sorry if I sound like I’m saying everyone who lives in a red state/red county is a bigot. Hell I didn’t live in a blue county until 2004 and my state went Republican for 11 consecutive elections. We need to be bold and acknowledge that what our party stands for does bother a lot of these people.

Yeah, people are shocked that a hateful little shit like Trump appealed to the hateful little shits that make up most of the GOP.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:48:24am

I missed this. If you did, watch - Ana at her best

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:48:38am

re: #725 electrotek

Fuck off with these ‘blasphemous rumors’ you Nazi scum:

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Spencer should just Enjoy the Silence. It’s clear that with his expulsion from CPAC that he’s no longer Behind the Wheel. I Just Can’t Get Enough of watching him and his movement fail.

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:48:38am

re: #720 Dr. Matt

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O’Keefe will never be able to edit out the fact he is a clown.

He really needs to watch one of his stupid videos with a critical eye. Except he does not possess either the eye or the intelligence to see his own failings. He is such a conservative…clown.

America laughs at you Jimmy…keep up the serious comedy.

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Franklin  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:48:57am

re: #709 Anymouse

I get a kick out of this fellow (Liberal Redneck)

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Video

He has some great ones, this is my favorite:

Liberal Redneck - Thanks Obama

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:49:08am

Senator @marcorubio runs from a constituent asking if he’s going to come to the scheduled town hall:

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:49:41am

Here is a detailed account of “Ihre Papieren bitte” incident on the SFO-JFK Delta flight.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:49:52am

re: #729 Timothy Watson

Yeah, people are shocked that a hateful little shit like Trump appealed to the hateful little shits that make up most of the GOP.

I mean obviously our elected politicians can’t come out and say things like the GOP base has a hateful little shit base but I have no problem saying it here. I have no problem saying they live in a bubble nor with a lot of them vote with their hatreds than hearts. It sucks to acknowledge the ugliness in your fellow Americans but when you read people being glad that a woman with a brain tumor was detained by ICE while she was being treated, you just really lose an interest for your party and ideology to actively engage with a certain base.

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Franklin  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:50:31am

re: #712 HappyWarrior

Listen, even if you don’t have access to better media and news sources, you still would have heard Trump talking about kicking out an entire grope based off their religion. And if you still voted for him knowing that, then I am sorry but I can’t muster up much sympathy for you. Trump’s attacks on Muslim-Americans are an attack on all of us regardless of our religion or lack of. And these voters, some of them are our neighbors and hell some of them are our friends and family ignored that. Does that mean every last man and woman who voted for him wears a KKK and subscribes to Alt-right thought, no I don’t think so and I have never said that but I will continue to feel that those voters are indifferent to the suffering of other people.

Intentional? :)

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:50:33am

re: #434 Big Beautiful Door

There is an outbreak of whooping cough in Lexington. Thanks, anti-vaccers!

kentucky.com

The school with the 10 cases of whooping cough; it is my kids school, and right across the street from the High School I teach at.

This elementary school has one of the highest of median income levels in the state. Has some of the highest scores on state testing. Among the highest in percentage of gifted/talented ID’ed students. And is among the least diverse schools in a medium/large city. There are a few anti-vaxx parents with kids there, but there are many children who live in this area that are also homeschooled and are more likely to have anti-vaxx parents(not meaning to intend this to be a negative labeling of homeschool families)

And it is not just whooping cough, but large amounts of students in the entire Lexington area are missing school to other illness and flu especially. The neighboring county to the north, cancelled school to cleanse and disinfect all schools on this past Friday. On Thursday, 900 students in a school of about 1800 were absent for sickness. Wash your hands people.

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:50:37am

re: #727 HappyWarrior

And Scott Pilgrim vs. the World.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:51:47am

re: #734 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh I thought he wanted to go back to the Senate to help the peopel of his state. Silly me.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:52:19am

re: #737 Franklin

Intentional? :)

Nah, you know me by now, I have a lot of funny typos.

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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:55:05am

Now withsuperhero sound effect.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:55:25am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:55:58am

I do think we need to improve our messaging but at the same time, I don’t have much sympathy for people who hear our message and whose reaction is DEMS SUUPPORT TERRORISM. or CHILD RAPE. Now maybe we can get to some of them but at the same time, I refuse to appease the fears of people who want to be otld they’re victims but don’t have the goddamn heart to realize other people have it just as tough if not tougher.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:56:11am

re: #740 HappyWarrior

Oh I thought he wanted to go back to the Senate to help the peopel of his state. Silly me.

Tom Perrillio and other Democrats are probably wondering why they didn’t use this strategy on townhalls. Christ, the amount of abuse they took defending the ACA…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:56:25am

re: #743 Stanley Sea

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Clooney ftw.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:56:47am

re: #735 The Vicious Babushka

Here is a detailed account of “Ihre Papieren bitte” incident on the SFO-JFK Delta flight.

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This is some fucked up shit. Wow. Sadly, Trump cultists will applaud this…..this actual loss of freedom and liberty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:57:44am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:58:01am

re: #745 Timothy Watson

Tom Perrillio and other Democrats are probably wondering why they didn’t use this strategy on townhalls. Christ, the amount of abuse they took defending the ACA…

Part of the reason I’m supporting Tom over Ralph and you know I like Ralph too is because Tom proudly stood by his ACA vote. Plus, he did a lot of good things for DOS after leaving office too. You know me though, either man would be ebtter than Ed Gillespie, Frank Wagner, or Cory Stewart.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:58:40am

Rep. Juan Vargas tells MSNBC immigrants in his district are afraid to go to church because they could get picked up by ICE agents.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:59:36am

Just a quick PSA: Bookmark this site—it’s not pretty, but the info is useful.

FYI, I saw it for the first time about an hour ago and have been reading through their stuff. Looks legit despite the lack of a slick interface.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:59:49am

re: #750 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And I guess that’s why I don’t have too much sympathy for someone who claims to have economic anxiety voting for someone who enables this.

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BeachDem  Feb 23, 2017 • 10:59:53am

re: #728 HappyWarrior

Ouch, to know your favorite band hates you. Sucks to be Snowflake Spencer.

Much like Paul Ryan and Rage Against the Machine; Christie and Springsteen; and Scotty Walker and Drop Kick Murphys

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:00:54am

re: #753 BeachDem

Much like Paul Ryan and Rage Against the Machine; Christie and Springsteen; and Scotty Walker and Drop Kick Murphys

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I imagine a lot of Rubio’s favorite rappers aren’t too fond of him either.

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electrotek  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:01:01am

Has Marine Le Pen rebranded herself as a champion of women’s rights after refusing to wear a headscarf when meeting the Grand Mufti of Lebanon?

What a shitshow.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:01:05am

re: #329 retired cynic

He is the model of a modern white supremacist.

He is always ignorant, he is always very pissed

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:01:08am

How long before the travel and tourism industry blows a gasket with all of this ‘ban’ crap going on? It has got to be hurting their business. People will start cutting back on travel in or out of this country just to avoid the hassles.

That Trump…he sure is Making America Look Not So Great Again!*

* If we ever looked this bad to the rest of the world.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:01:57am

re: #735 The Vicious Babushka

Here is a detailed account of “Ihre Papieren bitte” incident on the SFO-JFK Delta flight.

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Yeah, so. Pay attention people.

He added that there can be legal precedent for border agents to question individuals within 100 miles of the border—especially if the agents didn’t inquire selectively: “If they had gone on that flight and said every Caucasian here can get off, that would be unconstitutional because they would be profiling people racially.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:03:03am

re: #758 Stanley Sea

yeppers. That part really jumped out at me as well.

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jaunte  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:04:47am

The Republican war against information they don’t control.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:05:29am

Oh and BD I just saw a snippet of Ronan since one of my FB friends is a huge BoBer type, man what a load of shit. The DNC is rigged against outsiders? How did Hillary’s husband win in 92? How did Obama win in 2008? I’d have a lot more sympathy for the Bernie got gipped argument A) if Bernie actually was you know a Democrat and B) If Bernie had actually spent any time before last year working to get other Dems elected. Sam Ronan’s full of crap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:05:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:07:10am

.@BetsyDeVosED on transgender bathroom guidelines: “This issue was a very huge example of the Obama administration’s overreach.” #CPAC2017

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:08:25am

re: #758 Stanley Sea

He added that there can be legal precedent for border agents to question individuals within 100 miles of the border—

I regularly travel to and from an airport(DTW) that is near an international border and have never been asked for ID after deplaning from a domestic flight. So this is a new thing.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:08:26am

re: #763 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Conservatives have always considered the attempt to protect the rights of the minority, and the vulnerable an overreach.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:08:40am
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JordanRules  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:08:59am

Our kids are in good hands \

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:09:50am

re: #763 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yes, Betsy letting people go to the bathroom where they feel comfortable is executive overreach. Good grief.

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jaunte  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:10:12am

re: #767 JordanRules

Betsy DeVos introduces herself as “the first person to tell Bernie Sanders to his face that there’s no such thing as a free lunch.”

She worked very hard to get wealthy parents.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:10:14am

re: #765 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Conservatives have always considered the attempt to protect the rights of the minority, and the vulnerable an overreach.

Yep, it’s how they view civil rights as a whole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:10:17am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:11:09am

re: #767 JordanRules

Our kids are in good hands \

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You know, I’m not a Sanders fan but I know he doesn’t think that. It’s acutally conservatives like Betsy who think you can tax cut everything and still have a functioning soceity.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:11:12am

re: #768 HappyWarrior

Yes, Betsy letting people go to the bathroom where they feel comfortable is executive overreach. Good grief.

Because as a guy, I really want someone who dresses and acts like a woman in the same bathroom as me…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:11:35am

re: #769 jaunte

She worked very hard to get wealthy parents.

Worked even harder to give tons of money to GOP candidates too.

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:12:01am

re: #763 Backwoods_Sleuth

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re: #763 Backwoods_Sleuth

@BetsyDeVosED on transgender bathroom guidelines: “This issue was a very huge example of the Obama administration’s overreach.” #CPAC2017

Uh oh…someone just took out Betsy’s tiny little spine. She got the talking points since it was revealed yesterday she had a problem with Trump’s thinking on the issue.

Now she has one of those puppet holes in her back where Trump puts in the hand and manipulates the mouth.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:12:23am

re: #773 Timothy Watson

Because as a guy, I really want someone who dresses and acts like a woman in the same bathroom as me…

And I’m sure women feel the same way about men. I’m not much for memes but Kragar showed a good one illusrating why the right wing position on this is so stupid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:12:51am
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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:13:17am

re: #765 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Obama’s response to HB2 and conservatives trying to diminish the rights of minorities - in this case LGBT - is overreach? Not the original conservative push to legislate who can use which bathroom?

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:13:31am

Are conservatives that afraid of Pee, Poop, and anything else done with your thingy…

Of course they are. Especially the sekks I heard you can do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:13:34am
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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:13:48am

re: #766 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So Bannon wants a country reflective of him and his thinking. Trash.

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BeachDem  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:14:29am

re: #761 HappyWarrior

Oh and BD I just saw a snippet of Ronan since one of my FB friends is a huge BoBer type, man what a load of shit. The DNC is rigged against outsiders? How did Hillary’s husband win in 92? How did Obama win in 2008? I’d have a lot more sympathy for the Bernie got gipped argument A) if Bernie actually was you know a Democrat and B) If Bernie had actually spent any time before last year working to get other Dems elected. Sam Ronan’s full of crap.

And from a quick skim across some sites this morning, the BoBers/Ellison or bust gang have Ronan as their second choice—because who better to lead the party than a 27 year old with no political experience, no connections for fundraising and no grasp of the English language.

BTW—Jaime Harrison just dropped out of contention this morning and threw his support to Perez.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:14:36am
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electrotek  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:14:58am

Fox News’ premier columnist chimed in on Milo here:

The editors of National Review, as well as other traditional conservative publications and individuals, criticized CPAC for inviting Yiannopoulos to speak. The conservatism of Russell Kirk, William F. Buckley Jr. and Ronald Reagan was about ideas, not emotion and exclusion. Reagan, whom the modern right likes to claim as one of its own, was an optimist. Even when he criticized the left’s policies, he almost always presented a superior alternative. He wanted to attract as many people to his worldview as possible by winning the argument and converting opponents, whom he always regarded as fellow Americans and “friends,” even when he disagreed with them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:15:26am

re: #776 HappyWarrior

And I’m sure women feel the same way about men. I’m not much for memes but Kragar showed a good one illusrating why the right wing position on this is so stupid.

There is a meme showing some manly trans men (including African-American trans men) “This is who will be using the girl’s bathroom from now on”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:15:34am

re: #778 lawhawk

Obama’s response to HB2 and conservatives trying to diminish the rights of minorities - in this case LGBT - is overreach? Not the original conservative push to legislate who can use which bathroom?

Exactly LH.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:16:40am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:16:48am

re: #782 BeachDem

And from a quick skim across some sites this morning, the BoBers/Ellison or bust gang have Ronan as their second choice—because who better to lead the party than a 27 year old with no political experience, no connections for fundraising and no grasp of the English language.

BTW—Jaime Harrison just dropped out of contention this morning and threw his support to Perez.

Ronan is just an awful choice. I swear the fucking BoBers base everything based off of Bernie. It’s pathetic. I have no objection against Ellison because he supported Sanders at all.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:17:03am

re: #783 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Who’s the suit on teh right?

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:17:17am

re: #779 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Now go do that voodoo that you do so well

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:19:26am

oh lookie at what somebody found:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:20:16am

re: #785 The Vicious Babushka

There is a meme showing some manly trans men (including African-American trans men) “This is who will be using the girl’s bathroom from now on”

The one Kragar had Buck Angel in it, shaved head, mustache, and tats. I really think conservatives honestly think a transgendered person is just a person of the opposite sex wearing stereotypical clothes for the gender. Hence why they say men in dresses.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:20:20am

So “get off my lawn” and some angry words escalated to this? So lucky no one was shot. The kid says he will sue the cop and the cop hears “shoot”? Uh huh. I may just run that audio through my Adobe Audition software and see how it sounds.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:21:12am

re: #791 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh lookie at what somebody found:

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Why does the sheriff of Milwaukee need to know about ME policy? I swear if I ever slacked as much as Clarke did, I’d be fired.

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EPR-radar  Feb 23, 2017 • 11:21:33am

re: #764 The Vicious Babushka

I regularly travel to and from an airport(DTW) that is near an international border and have never been asked for ID after deplaning from a domestic flight. So this is a new thing.

This is purely a Gestapo tactic, to hit people when they ar