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lockjawcanbefun  Feb 24, 2017 • 5:47:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 5:49:34pm

You’ve posted Sarah’s music before Charles. I really like her sound.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 24, 2017 • 5:53:49pm
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mmmirele  Feb 24, 2017 • 5:54:04pm

I went to Rep. Andy Biggs’ office this afternoon. This is the reception I got. As a reminder, I am a fat, middle-aged woman wearing blue slacks and a blue polo shirt.

YouTube

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2017 • 5:54:10pm
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bratwurst  Feb 24, 2017 • 5:55:10pm

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 24, 2017 • 5:57:41pm

So sure it’s probably assault, attempted theft or ruin of (despicable) property, but I got nothin but respect for this guy. Way to show some fierce heart. Most of you probably saw another angle yesterday.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 5:58:26pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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He lies about everything.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 24, 2017 • 5:59:36pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

If we have 7001, then nobody will fuck with us.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:01:00pm

re: #6 bratwurst

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:01:05pm

re: #6 bratwurst

re: #6 bratwurst

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:03:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:05:39pm

So as you guys know, I’ve been doing some volunteering. I had a great conversation with a lady today about all that’s going on. We talked a little about how amazing it was all the Republicans were chickening out of their townhalls. All the people I talked to who were at first reluctant to sign the ballot petition signed on immediately when I told them I was working on behalf of a dem.

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lawhawk  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:05:48pm

re: #7 Unshaken Defiance

That needs the Six Million Dollar Man or Bionic Woman sound fx.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:07:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:07:37pm
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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:08:24pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

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Now I’m hungry for pizza. But I’ve eaten way too much tonight. And probably drank too much, too…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:12:20pm

re: #17 thedopefishlives

Now I’m hungry for pizza. But I’ve eaten way too much tonight. And probably drank too much, too…

I think that by far is the worst effect of Pizzagate. It always makes me hungry.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:14:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:15:01pm

good grief…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:15:47pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief…

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Choke, you use that word, I don’t think you know what it means. Maybe if you actually lived in the real world outside far right bullshit Paul, you’d know that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:15:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:16:01pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

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I wish I knew.

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:16:30pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

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Given the events of the past week, projection of the worst kind.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:16:37pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ryan and Company are the one choking the economy not the ACA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:17:22pm

mouse hunt currently in progress in the kitchen.
it is quite a noisy hunt.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:18:40pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

mouse hunt currently in progress in the kitchen.
it is quite a noisy hunt.

Does it involve a feline overlord? That can raise quite a ruckus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:19:34pm

jeebus h*ckin crisp…

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:19:39pm

re: #25 PhillyPretzel

Ryan and Company are the one choking the economy not the ACA.

Remember when the GOP insisted that the only way the economy could have booming growth again was with a balanced budget, massive spending cuts, and a hard debt ceiling because that would show that Congress was “getting its house in order”?

Good times.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:19:53pm

re: #27 thedopefishlives

Does it involve a feline overlord? That can raise quite a ruckus.

TWO feline overlords

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:20:51pm

all is quiet now…I should check on them…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:21:10pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus h*ckin crisp…

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We’re their constituents you rat bastard.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:21:15pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

TWO feline overlords

At my parents’ house, only one feline overlord actually engages in mortal combat with the rodent. The other supervises. At our house, we only have one who is capable of such action. However, she is grimly efficient at her work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:21:46pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

all is quiet now…I should check on them…

they are on alert staring under the microwave table…

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:22:09pm
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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:22:40pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:22:46pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus h*ckin crisp…

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With each passing day, the GOP becomes less and less moored to reality. They’re gonna go into next year absolutely convinced that the “silent majority” still sits there waiting to take them to the promised land.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:23:51pm
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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:24:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:24:46pm

re: #33 thedopefishlives

At my parents’ house, only one feline overlord actually engages in mortal combat with the rodent. The other supervises. At our house, we only have one who is capable of such action. However, she is grimly efficient at her work.

Right now, one is halfway under the table, the other is supervising.
Both are equally not very good at this particular job…when they somehow manage to actually catch a mouse, 9 times out of 10 the rodent gets away after a long and hard-fought chase/battle.
The one successful time out of ten, the mouse carcass ends up in the bed, in my shoes, or just in the middle of the floor waiting to be stepped upon with a bare foot in the middle of the night…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:25:34pm

This isn’t going away for them. Good. Hopefully by the time this is over, the Trump brand will be in ruins and Eric, Don Jr, and Ivanka will actually have to work like the rest of us do.

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lawhawk  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:26:05pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

Choking…. that’s gonna come back and haunt them (or it should).

Repealing environmental protections. Rolling back Obama era waterway protections so that coal companies can pollute the water. Yeah, when future generations are literally choking on hazmat wastes dumped by companies enabled by the GOP repeal of environmental protections, I’ll remember who did the choking.

It wasn’t Obama. It was Ryan and the rest of the craven GOP.

Choke on that Ryan. That’s going to be your legacy.

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:26:24pm

The other day, there were Democrats in Congress who were reported as mulling holding the debt ceiling hostage over the Trump/Russia investigations. I say they do so, but publicly remind the nation that Trump said that he’d “renegotiate” America’s debts with foreign debt holders and get them to “take a little less.” Publicly call him on his bluff and say if he’s the master businessman that he claims to be, then there is no danger to refusing to raise the debt ceiling.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:26:33pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

Right now, one is halfway under the table, the other is supervising.
Both are equally not very good at this particular job…when they somehow manage to actually catch a mouse, 9 times out of 10 the rodent gets away after a long and hard-fought chase/battle.
The one successful time out of ten, the mouse carcass ends up in the bed, in my shoes, or just in the middle of the floor waiting to be stepped upon with a bare foot in the middle of hte night…

My parents’ cats aren’t allowed in the house, so the rodent corpses are usually deposited at the entryway to the garage or in the basement window wells. One cat is quite good at doing the hunting, the other … yeeeeah, not so much. So he supervises. I don’t remember if you guys have seen them, but my parents’ cats are enormous felines, positively yuuuuge. Beautiful animals, but for barn cats, I’ve never seen them grow so big.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:26:44pm

re: #1 lockjawcanbefun

Meh. Way too much credit is being given here. The Joe Rogan podcast was noticed and written about on plenty of websites before this. Nobody cared until Milo got asked to do the keynote at CPAC. And the worst part hasn’t even been given much coverage - he says he witnessed the rapes of “very young boys” and did nothing to report it.

This story is just not being reported accurately at all. Frustrating.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:28:24pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Meh. Way too much credit is being given here. The Joe Rogan podcast was noticed and written about on plenty of websites before this. Nobody cared until Milo got asked to do the keynote at CPAC. And the worst part hasn’t even been given much coverage - he says he witnessed the rapes of “very young boys” and did nothing to report it.

This story is just not being reported accurately at all. Frustrating.

Yeah that hasn’t gotten as much talk at all.

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:29:16pm

re: #39 jaunte

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As noted downstairs, this is what would be known under a Democrat as a cover-up. After all, if there were truly nothing to these reports (as we were told repeatedly under Obama) then there would be no need for push-back. They would be totally transparent, they would not be interfering in the investigations, and they would be working with investigators rather than trying to block them.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:30:45pm

re: #47 Targetpractice

Nunes and Burr just surrendered all pretense of acting as part of an independent branch of government.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:31:04pm

re: #44 thedopefishlives

My parents’ cats aren’t allowed in the house, so the rodent corpses are usually deposited at the entryway to the garage or in the basement window wells. One cat is quite good at doing the hunting, the other … yeeeeah, not so much. So he supervises. I don’t remember if you guys have seen them, but my parents’ cats are enormous felines, positively yuuuuge. Beautiful animals, but for barn cats, I’ve never seen them grow so big.

My cats aren’t allowed outside because there are too many varieties of wildlife that see them as a potential meal. They’ll be four years old end of April/beginning of May and the only only time they’ve been outdoors is when they were born out in the shop. Their eyes were still closed when their stray cat mother disappeared, so the only thing they know of the outdoors is what they see through the windows.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:31:45pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:31:59pm
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stpaulbear  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:32:03pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus h*ckin crisp…

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Hard to say if Pence is a lying sack of shit, internally corrupt, or just plain old dirt stupid, but I’m willing to give him 300% for his efforts.

I hope Ryan and Pence are the first two-man crew on that NASA rocket launch. The crap that comes out of their mouths is just so jaw-droppingly oblivious. It’s unreal.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:32:16pm

kansascity.com
This guy’s wrong.
Most people would NOT have done what he did and he IS a hero. I like to think I would have done the right thing and said something to stand up for those engineers. And I love the budding friendship between these two guys too.

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Lani  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:32:46pm

Hey, it’s me, shy, quiet lurker and grateful reader of LGF. Someone here used to post tweets from a woman who had extensively researched the rise of facism and sucessful takeovers in countries. I think she is an author and professor. After the election, she tweeted the steps she anticipated Trump & friends would take and predicted a takeover very quickly - 6 months IIRC - if not stopped.

I’ve been trying to find those posts and googling what little I recall - unsuccessfully. Anybody remember her name? Thanks in advance for any help!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:33:16pm

re: #52 stpaulbear

Hard to say if Pence is a lying sack of shit, internally corrupt, or just plain old dirt stupid, but I’m willing to give him 300% for his efforts.

I hope Ryan and Pence are the first two-man crew on that NASA rocket launch. The crap that comes out of their mouths is just so jaw-droppingly oblivious. It’s unreal.

I think he’s probably a little bit of all the above honestly. We are talking about a man who used his state’s taxdollars on sexual separative therapy.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:33:37pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

My cats aren’t allowed outside because there are too many varieties of wildlife that see them as a potential meal. They’ll be four years old end of April/beginning of May and the only only time they’ve been outdoors is when they were born out in the shop. Their eyes were still closed when their stray cat mother disappeared, so the only thing they know of the outdoors is what they see through the windows.

My parents’ cats were rescues from a local shelter; my sister and I picked them out when we still lived at home. They have been through many trials and travails outdoors and are quite comfortable there. My dad claims to hate them, but he trudged through the muck of a thunderstorm to rescue the orange one when it went astray late one night, so he’s not as cold-hearted as he would like to appear.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:33:44pm

re: #54 Lani

Sarah Kendzior. She’s very active on Twitter.

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prairiefire  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:34:34pm

re: #4 mmmirele

I went to Rep. Andy Biggs’ office this afternoon. This is the reception I got. As a reminder, I am a fat, middle-aged woman wearing blue slacks and a blue polo shirt.

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Video

You go!! Thank you so much!

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:36:11pm

re: #54 Lani

If it’s Sarah Kendzior you’re thinking of, her website is here:
sarahkendzior.com

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:38:29pm

re: #48 jaunte

Nunes and Burr just surrendered all pretense of acting as part of an independent branch of government.

The heads of the Congressional investigation are actively working with the White House, as is the compromised head of the FBI and the hand-picked hatchet man in charge of the DOJ.

I think we can start dropping any hopes of a Watergate-style impeachment. Trump could reveal tomorrow that he really is Putin’s puppet and the GOP respond would be “Well, at least he’s not a liberal!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:38:39pm
.. and that’s why we named him Oddell

for those not in Cincinnati and familiar with the name Oddell:

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Lani  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:38:51pm

re: #57 Sherlock Hound

Big thanks to you & Jaunte!

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:41:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:42:42pm

huffingtonpost.com
This is pretty neat considering that Barbara’s dad (this is W Bush’s daughter) beat Cecille Richards’s mom in a hotly contested race over 20 years ago. I actually have a lot of respect for how George and Laura Bush raised their daughters. They’re socially conscious young women and not mean spirited like the Palin older daughters were.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:43:06pm

re: #63 jaunte

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Our very own oligarch wannabe.

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EPR-radar  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:43:46pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Meh. Way too much credit is being given here. The Joe Rogan podcast was noticed and written about on plenty of websites before this. Nobody cared until Milo got asked to do the keynote at CPAC. And the worst part hasn’t even been given much coverage - he says he witnessed the rapes of “very young boys” and did nothing to report it.

This story is just not being reported accurately at all. Frustrating.

Agreed. Milo can think and say what he pleases about his own life when he was underage, but this business of Milo witnessing statutory rape and doing nothing about it as an adult is what was totally unacceptable.

By now this is all well-buried under a giant pile of indiscriminate outrage.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:43:54pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

You’ve posted Sarah’s music before Charles. I really like her sound.

Sarah is the real deal.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:43:57pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

huffingtonpost.com
This is pretty neat considering that Barbara’s dad (this is W Bush’s daughter) beat Cecille Richards’s mom in a hotly contested race over 20 years ago. I actually have a lot of respect for how George and Laura Bush raised their daughters. They’re socially conscious young women and not mean spirited like the Palin older daughters were.

Whatever W’s policy failings as a President, there’s no denying that the Bush family is good people.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:45:27pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Sarah is the real deal.

Yeah talented beyond her years.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:45:58pm

re: #68 thedopefishlives

Whatever W’s policy failings as a President, there’s no denying that the Bish family is good people.

Yes, I think so.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:46:18pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

I corrected the spelling after the fact, by the way.

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EPR-radar  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:47:59pm

re: #68 thedopefishlives

Whatever W’s policy failings as a President, there’s no denying that the Bush family is good people.

The Bushes are quite good for senior Republicans, some more so than others. But this is a remarkably low bar these days.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:48:04pm

Anyhow regarding tonight’s music, that’s why I want to smack people who insist all the music today sucks. Just look and you’ll find some good tunes.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:48:11pm

“…Immigration officials let Camacho-Ali go after she showed them a photo of herself with her ex-husband, but her son did not have such a photo and wasn’t as lucky. Mancini said officials held and questioned Ali Jr. for nearly two hours, repeatedly asking him, “Where did you get your name from?” and “Are you Muslim?”

When Ali Jr. responded that yes, he is a Muslim, the officers kept questioning him about his religion and where he was born. Ali Jr. was born in Philadelphia in 1972 and holds a U.S. passport.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:49:12pm

re: #74 jaunte

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Not our America. Sigh. This is just pathetically awful.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:49:24pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Anyhow regarding tonight’s music, that’s why I want to smack people who insist all the music today sucks. Just look and you’ll find some good tunes.

The pop music today sucks. You find the good stuff off the beaten path. It’s worth looking for.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:49:27pm
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ozharas  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:49:31pm

Famous and loved Australian children’s author, Mem Fox, has received a written apology from US, after being detained at LAX for 2 hours, wrongly accused of having an incorrect visa.

Has previously visited the US 116 times without incident - abc.net.au

She said the border agents appeared to have been given “turbocharged power” by an executive order signed by President Donald Trump to “humiliate and insult” a room full of people they detained to check visas.

….”I have never in my life been spoken to with such insolence, treated with such disdain, with so many insults and with so much gratuitous impoliteness,” Fox said. “I felt like I had been physically assaulted which is why, when I got to my hotel room, I completely collapsed and sobbed like a baby, and I’m 70 years old.”

….She said the treatment of others in the airport holding room, including Iranians, Taiwanese and a Scandinavian parent with a small child, was just as poor, and all appeared to eventually have been released.

“I thought: ‘How can human beings treat other vulnerable human beings in this fashion, in public, in full view of everybody?’

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:50:25pm

re: #76 thedopefishlives

The pop music today sucks. You find the good stuff off the beaten path. It’s worth looking for.

Exactly. Anyhow this is something I can see myself listening to on a hot summer’s night in a small dive.

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:50:37pm

re: #53 HappyWarrior

kansascity.com
This guy’s wrong.
Most people would NOT have done what he did and he IS a hero. I like to think I would have done the right thing and said something to stand up for those engineers. And I love the budding friendship between these two guys too.

Well, he said he was doing what others “should have done” (second to last paragraph) not what they “would have done”

“Hero” is a word Grillot shied away from when recalling his part in the drama. “I was just doing what anyone should have done,” he said.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:51:13pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Anyhow this is something I can see myself listening to on a hot summer’s night in a small dive.

That reminds me, one of my best friends is a drummer in a Rush cover band. I should really go listen to him play in that band sometime; I’ve heard him on our church’s worship team plenty of times.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:51:51pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Rogan also had The Rage Furby on as well. Rogan’s Podcast used to be on SiriusXM on the Opie Radio channel, but no more, it seems.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:52:13pm

re: #80 Anymouse

Well, he said he was doing what others “should have done” (second to last paragraph) not what they “would have done”

True. I just disagree respectfully with his modesty. If I ever meet him- doubtful- first beer is on me.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:52:58pm

re: #81 thedopefishlives

That reminds me, one of my best friends is a drummer in a Rush cover band. I should really go listen to him play in that band sometime; I’ve heard him on our church’s worship team plenty of times.

I’m really trying to ese more music even for groups and people I don’t know. It’s just a great way to spend an evening. Cold beer, grub, and music. That’s heaven for me.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:53:58pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

I’m really trying to ese more music even for groups and people I don’t know. It’s just a great way to spend an evening. Cold beer, grub, and music. That’s heaven for me.

I’d be happy if I could enjoy that in a quiet corner, by myself (minus the brew, and plus a couple of fingers of whiskey, neat). I really am one of the most hard-core introverts you’ll ever meet.

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EPR-radar  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:54:18pm

re: #77 jaunte

Struggling WWC people who have supposedly come to their senses after voting for Trump need to atone for their sins. In lieu of being flogged in Confessional, a heartfelt essay on the subject of willfully falling for the lies of a demagogue will suffice.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:55:07pm

re: #74 jaunte

Somebody in Customs needs to be fired.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:55:10pm

re: #77 jaunte

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I am fine with listening to their concerns but I think it’s wrong to lie and pandering to them and listening to one’s concerns has to be a two street. Not too many of these people were interested in at all why BLM exists or why immigrants worried about Trump’s election. Should we help working class communities that have been adversely impacted by jobs leaving? You bet. Should we cosign off on their bullshit? No.

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TedStriker  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:55:31pm

re: #52 stpaulbear

Hard to say if Pence is a lying sack of shit, internally corrupt, or just plain old dirt stupid, but I’m willing to give him 300% for his efforts.

I hope Ryan and Pence are the first two-man crew on that NASA rocket launch. The crap that comes out of their mouths is just so jaw-droppingly oblivious. It’s unreal.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:55:53pm

re: #85 thedopefishlives

I’d be happy if I could enjoy that in a quiet corner, by myself (minus the brew, and plus a couple of fingers of whiskey, neat). I really am one of the most hard-core introverts you’ll ever meet.

My inner extrovert comes out after a few drinks heh. I’m usually pretty introverted though.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:56:37pm

Here’s the notice being sent out to,solicit bids for the wall: fbo.gov.

My sister deals with these things and she says it’s a mess. Prototypes for a wall? And as she said, you can’t ask for bids if there is no money.

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EPR-radar  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:57:33pm

re: #87 Eric The Fruit Bat

Somebody in Customs needs to be fired.

Many people in Customs need to be fired. Everyone in the chain of command for this travesty would be a decent start.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:57:57pm

re: #87 Eric The Fruit Bat

Years of pent-up authoritarian feelings are bursting forth in law enforcement.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:58:01pm

And frankly Clinton if they had actually listened to her message showed more concern for their community than Trump ever did but they wanted to believe the mines and steel mlils would re-open. I guess I don’t fault them for that but many of these same people are the same people who have the attitude of fuck your feelings so is it really wrong to sort of return the sentiment especially when these people often do treat you and the ones you love like they’re not real Americans.

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I cannot.  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:58:15pm

re: #52 stpaulbear

As the LGF Correspondent from Indianapolis, I believe we have ample evidence that Pence is all three.

ETA: Emphasis on dirt-stupid though.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:58:18pm
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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:58:37pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

True. I just disagree respectfully with his modesty. If I ever meet him- doubtful- first beer is on me.

He’s a hero in my book, and this guy would buy him a beer, dinner, about anything I could to appreciate standing up for others when they needed a hero.

Heroes are often just people in the right place at the right time.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 6:59:59pm

re: #97 Anymouse

He’s a hero in my book, and this guy would buy him a beer, dinner, about anything I could to appreciate standing up for others when they needed a hero.

Heroes are often just people in the right place at the right time.

I’d say they’re the right people in the right place at the right time. Minor quarrel though heh. It seems often when we read about the worst people can be, we see the best they can be. Ian there was the latter. His family should be very proud.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:00:14pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

My inner extrovert comes out after a few drinks heh. I’m usually pretty introverted though.

When I take the MBTI online tests, the one thing that is always consistent is that I rate around 95% on the Introverted scale of I/E. It’s that strong. I don’t go out in public very often at all, and when I do, I don’t usually last long unless I’m with Mrs. Fish or someone else I’m incredibly close to (which isn’t very many other people outside of her).

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stpaulbear  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:01:01pm

re: #89 TedStriker

re: #95 I cannot.

That’s why I gave him 300%.

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:01:33pm

re: #99 thedopefishlives

When I take the MBTI online tests, the one thing that is always consistent is that I rate around 95% on the Introverted scale of I/E. It’s that strong. I don’t go out in public very often at all, and when I do, I don’t usually last long unless I’m with Mrs. Fish or someone else I’m incredibly close to (which isn’t very many other people outside of her).

I’ll have to look for one of those tests. I’m not big on going out, outside of with my wife.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:02:22pm

re: #99 thedopefishlives

When I take the MBTI online tests, the one thing that is always consistent is that I rate around 95% on the Introverted scale of I/E. It’s that strong. I don’t go out in public very often at all, and when I do, I don’t usually last long unless I’m with Mrs. Fish or someone else I’m incredibly close to (which isn’t very many other people outside of her).

I actually like to go out but I’m more content to observe than interact with people. Sometimes I will. I gotta look for something to do on St. Patrick’s Day weekend in a few weeks.

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EPR-radar  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:02:30pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

I am fine with listening to their concerns but I think it’s wrong to lie and pandering to them and listening to one’s concerns has to be a two street. Not too many of these people were interested in at all why BLM exists or why immigrants worried about Trump’s election. Should we help working class communities that have been adversely impacted by jobs leaving? You bet. Should we cosign off on their bullshit? No.

IMO the only way to make real progress with this part of the electorate is to confront their lies, bullshit and willful self-delusions head on. The alternative to that is essentially trying to come up with good policy proposals while pandering to their irrational resentments, and this is impossible at this level of delusion.

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:02:58pm

re: #101 Anymouse

Nope. $50.

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MsJ  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:03:11pm

re: #87 Eric The Fruit Bat

Somebody in Customs needs to be fired.

The head of the union all ther way down.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:03:42pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

I actually like to go out but I’m more content to observe than interact with people. Sometimes I will. I gotta look for something to do on St. Patrick’s Day weekend in a few weeks.

I don’t even like to observe that much. Just being in a crowded room drains my energy to the point where I want to crawl into a hole and recover for hours. Which is rough when the State Fair comes around, because it’s a great time with lots of great food, but the crowds are so thick and it strains my social energy to the breaking point every single time.

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:04:28pm

re: #103 EPR-radar

IMO the only way to make real progress with this part of the electorate is to confront their lies, bullshit and willful self-delusions head on. The alternative to that is essentially trying to come up with good policy proposals while pandering to their irrational resentments, and this is impossible at this level of delusion.

For confrontation, that anti-Nazi pin might be a good start … .

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:04:54pm

re: #101 Anymouse

I’ll have to look for one of those tests. I’m not big on going out, outside of with my wife.

google.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:06:04pm

re: #103 EPR-radar

IMO the only way to make real progress with this part of the electorate is to confront their lies, bullshit and willful self-delusions head on. The alternative to that is essentially trying to come up with good policy proposals while pandering to their irrational resentments, and this is impossible at this level of delusion.

No doubt. They don’t want to hear that but the fact is they did get conned. They did fall for lies. And they’ll do it again and the way to prevent that from happening again isn’t infantizing them. I think many white liberals have this romantic vision of the working class. Perhaps because so many of our families came from families like that. I don’t think every or even most WWC is a bigoted person but I do think there are resentments unique to that group that the right has pounced on from Nixon to Trump and many white liberals simply can’t see it. They think if we just go back to New Deal economic rhetoric, that will get these people back into our fold and I just don’t think it’s that simple. A lot of them (not all) have a problem with the fact that our party and ideology champions immigrants, LGBT, racial minorities, poor people, etc.

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:06:13pm

re: #106 thedopefishlives

I don’t even like to observe that much. Just being in a crowded room drains my energy to the point where I want to crawl into a hole and recover for hours. Which is rough when the State Fair comes around, because it’s a great time with lots of great food, but the crowds are so thick and it strains my social energy to the breaking point every single time.

Neither my wife nor I care much for crowds. We pretty much go everywhere together. Safety in numbers. (In the rare instance one of us is out without the other, it invariably draws “where’s your wife/husband” questions from just about everyone.)

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:07:23pm

re: #110 Anymouse

Neither my wife nor I care much for crowds. We pretty much go everywhere together. Safety in numbers. (In the rare instance one of us is out without the other, it invariably draws “where’s your wife/husband” questions from just about everyone.)

Mrs. Fish, while introverted, is much less introverted than I am; she enjoys going out and being social, to a point. I can’t abide crowds or intense social interaction at all. Hence why meeting her family (now up to 26 grandchildren, 6 siblings) was overwhelming for this son of a 2-child, 3-cousin family.

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teleskiguy  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:10:20pm

So, can I assume I have the store’s blessing from this tweet if it does come to DEA raids?

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Stanley Sea  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:10:42pm

re: #91 Belafon

Here’s the notice being sent out to,solicit bids for the wall: fbo.gov.

My sister deals with these things and she says it’s a mess. Prototypes for a wall? And as she said, you can’t ask for bids if there is no money.

Plus this is zero time frame.

a concept paper of their prototype(s) by March 10, 2017,

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Stanley Sea  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:11:17pm

re: #91 Belafon

Here’s the notice being sent out to,solicit bids for the wall: fbo.gov.

My sister deals with these things and she says it’s a mess. Prototypes for a wall? And as she said, you can’t ask for bids if there is no money.

What a waste of govt resources to go through the hack brained shit they are going to receive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:12:22pm

re: #113 Stanley Sea

Plus this is zero time frame.

A trump insider already has something written up, so short time frame is not a prob…

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:13:00pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

No doubt. They don’t want to hear that but the fact is they did get conned. They did fall for lies. And they’ll do it again and the way to prevent that from happening again isn’t infantizing them. I think many white liberals have this romantic vision of the working class. Perhaps because so many of our families came from families like that. I don’t think every or even most WWC is a bigoted person but I do think there are resentments unique to that group that the right has pounced on from Nixon to Trump and many white liberals simply can’t see it. They think if we just go back to New Deal economic rhetoric, that will get these people back into our fold and I just don’t think it’s that simple. A lot of them (not all) have a problem with the fact that our party and ideology champions immigrants, LGBT, racial minorities, poor people, etc.

It will take time.

In the abstract, it is easy to say “liberals hate America” or some such.

It’s tough when you are right there for them to tell you that to your face, when your neighbours see their rhetoric does not match their experience.

No one here thinks I “hate America.” Atheist, sister in a same-sex marriage, Democrat, liberal, &c. Everyone around me knows all that.

Also disabled military, pay my taxes and bills, keep my lawn mowed, &c.

That opens up a crack into which you can insert a wedge. (All politics is local.) If a political discussion comes up, “well, what do you think of all the Republican senators and representatives avoiding their constituents, while all the Democratic ones are welcoming them?”

Even my local paper’s poll today ran over 80% saying reps should meet their constituents, and they are all GOP, all the time.

Baby steps. It will take time to reverse thirty or more years of damage.

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allegro  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:15:13pm

re: #113 Stanley Sea

Plus this is zero time frame.

I’m no engineer but at the very least detailed topographical maps, substrate surveys and much more would be required to even put initial plans to paper and it would have to vary considerably over the 2000 mile distance. This is a joke. Total scam.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:15:32pm
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allegro  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:16:27pm

re: #113 Stanley Sea

a concept paper of their prototype(s) by March 10, 2017,

And this doesn’t even make sense. There are paper concepts and there are prototypes. They are not the same thing.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:17:11pm

re: #119 allegro

And this doesn’t even make sense. There are paper concepts and there are prototypes. They are not the same thing.

Idjits!

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:17:46pm

re: #91 Belafon

Here’s the notice being sent out to,solicit bids for the wall: fbo.gov.

My sister deals with these things and she says it’s a mess. Prototypes for a wall? And as she said, you can’t ask for bids if there is no money.

Spinal Tap’s Stonehenge

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:20:15pm
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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:20:34pm

re: #117 allegro

I’m no engineer but at the very least detailed topographical maps, substrate surveys and much more would be required to even put initial plans to paper and it would have to vary considerably over the 2000 mile distance. This is a joke. Total scam.

My dad is a civil engineer. I could ask him, but then he’d accuse me of being a liberal. Of course, he’s too dense to figure out that I already am one…

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:21:58pm

re: #117 allegro

They haven’t yet figured out that eminent domain challenges will tie it up forever.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:22:28pm

Any contractor that wastes a minute on a bid is a fool.

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MsJ  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:22:33pm

re: #114 Stanley Sea

What a waste of govt resources to go through the hack brained shit they are going to receive.

From a Trump friend and supporter. Fed money to a crony. Raiding the tax coffers.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:23:08pm

re: #116 Anymouse

It will take time.

In the abstract, it is easy to say “liberals hate America” or some such.

It’s tough when you are right there for them to tell you that to your face, when your neighbours see their rhetoric does not match their experience.

No one here thinks I “hate America.” Atheist, sister in a same-sex marriage, Democrat, liberal, &c. Everyone around me knows all that.

Also disabled military, pay my taxes and bills, keep my lawn mowed, &c.

That opens up a crack into which you can insert a wedge. (All politics is local.) If a political discussion comes up, “well, what do you think of all the Republican senators and representatives avoiding their constituents, while all the Democratic ones are welcoming them?”

Even my local paper’s poll today ran over 80% saying reps should meet their constituents, and they are all GOP, all the time.

Baby steps. It will take time to reverse thirty or more years of damage.

Of course. I’m not saying they should be ignored or mocked but let me be blunt here, I have seen how ugly these types can be to someone not like them. I’m talking about the communities that go bezerk when a Muslim community wants to build a mosque. People who go ballistic over hearing accented English. They’re out there and they’ve been easily manipulated and we’re told to sympathize with them in a way they are NEVER EVER told to attempt to understand us. They’er never told to understand why a liberal would worry about his gay friend or family having their marriage invalidated, Hispanic friends having their family separated over immigration, or Muslim friends beign scapegoated as terrorists. I have no problem with listening to working class concerns and a lot of them are understandable concerns. We do need to do somethign about places where jobs have been lost. But at the same time, they need to be told to try to attempt to understand us and no one is telling them that.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:23:39pm

re: #125 jaunte

Any contractor that wastes a minute on a bid is a fool.

I’m a little confused by this. If you’re a contractor, how else do you win jobs? I get the idea of not working for free, but at some level, you have to be able to provide a good-faith estimate to be successful.

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:24:23pm

re: #124 jaunte

They haven’t yet figured out that eminent domain challenges will tie it up forever.

Fiscal conservatism at work.

One of the great propaganda arguments foisted off on generally-Republican voters is “Democrats are tax-and-spend.”

Personally I prefer that to spend-and-spend.

Propaganda is a helluva drug.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:24:33pm

re: #128 thedopefishlives

Sure, but in the case of the border wall, it’s a project that will never happen because the government will find it impossible to acquire the needed land.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:25:08pm

re: #130 jaunte

Sure, but in the case of the border wall, it’s a project that will never happen because the government will find it impossible to acquire the needed land.

Fair enough. So you’re saying that it’s a waste to bid on this specific job, and on that, we would agree.

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Kragar  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:25:12pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:25:13pm

re: #130 jaunte

Sure, but in the case of the border wall, it’s a project that will never happen because the government will find it impossible to acquire the needed land.

But just think of all the cost overruns you can incur, and the billing for time spent without actually having to do any work…

There are times having a conscience and principles sucks ass.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:25:30pm

re: #131 thedopefishlives

Yes, I wasn’t specific enough.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:25:33pm

Everyone wants to understand the white working classes stresses and anxieties, fine. They should have to understand the anxieties and worries of other groups and no one wants to say that because pundits are too busy making them out to be victims and children.

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Cheechako  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:26:08pm

re: #125 jaunte

Any contractor that wastes a minute on a bid is a fool.

No, for certain contractors this project is going to be a gold mine….the taxpayers will get the shaft.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:26:31pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:26:52pm

Made two batches of homemade chorizo tonight. One’s for dinner tomorrow (going into a butternut squash, chickpea, and Brussels sprouts salad with a cumin lime viniagrette dressing and probably some feta cheese and pomegranate seeds) and the other into the freezer for cooking up some other night.

I feel all virtuous and productive …except there’s still a ton of stuff on my to do list. Dammit.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:27:06pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Everyone wants to understand the white working classes stresses and anxieties, fine. They should have to understand the anxieties and worries of other groups and no one wants to say that because pundits are too busy making them out to be victims and children.

HOW DARE YOU CLAIM THAT WHITE PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PLIGHT OF BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:27:23pm

re: #137 goddamnedfrank

(Psst. Strait. >.>)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:27:26pm

re: #138 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Made two batches of homemade chorizo tonight. One’s for dinner tomorrow (going into a butternut squash, chickpea, and Brussels sprouts salad with a cumin lime viniagrette dressing and probably some feta cheese and pomegranate seeds) and the other into the freezer for cooking up some other night.

I feel all virtuous and productive …except there’s still a ton of stuff on my to do list. Dammit.

Sounds like a good dinner.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:28:25pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Sounds like a good dinner.

Dinner tonight is tequila-lime marinated chicken thighs, baked in the oven and served with a corn and black bean salad that I will make up as I go along.

Dinner at casa klys. I’ve been on a Mexican fusion kick.

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allegro  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:28:38pm

re: #124 jaunte

They haven’t yet figured out that eminent domain challenges will tie it up forever.

That too. As one who did environmental impact statements for 30+ years I would say that’s still another hurdle that would never pass but…

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:30:21pm

re: #142 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Dinner tonight is tequila-lime marinated chicken thighs, baked in the oven and served with a corn and black bean salad that I will make up as I go along.

Dinner at casa klys. I’ve been on a Mexican fusion kick.

Sounds like something Mrs. Fish would make, actually. She’s a damn good cook whether she admits it or not, and she loves the Mexican-Asian fusion.

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b_sharp  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:30:58pm

I’ve argued with a few PizzaGate morons on Twitter. They simply do not have the reasoning capacity to know what constitutes valid evidence. They think anything that agrees with their bullshit bias is evidence. Sad really that people like that not only reproduce but vote.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:31:01pm

Thanks for the tip on the anti-nazi pin, I can go get one at the same store.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:31:18pm

re: #139 thedopefishlives

HOW DARE YOU CLAIM THAT WHITE PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PLIGHT OF BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!

Heh you jest but here’s what frustrates me especially about my fellow white Southerners. A lot of them still aren’t over how the Civil War ended- why else wave a Rebel flag and have so many in your number who insist the CSA was right but these are the same folks who tell African-Americans to get over slavery and Jim Crow, the same people who tell Japanese-Americans to shut up about internment, etc. I am fine with listening to the concerns of the WWC but I want someone in punditry to tell these people that they need to be aware of other people’s concerns too and to be blunt a lot of people in the WWC hate hearing that. They hate being told to consider other people who look different from them. And that frankly is why they’ve gone Republican over the years. It’s not because the Dems abandoned them, it’s because resentment sells. And yes I’ll be the first to admit that we could have done a better job helping industrial areas transition post outsourcing too but how the hell were we going to do it when you had Reagan appealing to these people telling them about the horrors of big government and them eating it up.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:31:58pm

re: #142 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Dinner tonight is tequila-lime marinated chicken thighs, baked in the oven and served with a corn and black bean salad that I will make up as I go along.

Dinner at casa klys. I’ve been on a Mexican fusion kick.

Yum. I just had a leftover meatloaf sandwich but lunch was good, a schnizel sandwich with fries and wheat beer at my favorite German place.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:32:17pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

You know I’m not entirely jesting with those remarks. I know better than most what wingnuts think. I live inside their culture; I know how they think. It’s scary and sad all at the same time.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:32:59pm

re: #149 thedopefishlives

You know I’m not entirely jesting with those remarks. I know better than most what wingnuts think. I live inside their culture; I know how they think. It’s scary and sad all at the same time.

Well you jested becaue that’s not waht you actually believe. And yeah you definitely do.

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:33:51pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Everyone wants to understand the white working classes stresses and anxieties, fine. They should have to understand the anxieties and worries of other groups and no one wants to say that because pundits are too busy making them out to be victims and children.

Sure, I’d agree with that.

Now how do we go about it?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:33:57pm
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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:34:13pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Well you jested becaue that’s not waht you actually believe. And yeah you definitely do.

My jests are always made with a grain of truth. I know exactly what these fuckers think when they say the things they do. Their indoctrination is now coming back to bite them in the ass. FEAR MY WRATH, BITCHES.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:34:17pm

I’ll be blunt about another thing. Too many among people who don’t have much education see environmental issues as hippie bullshit.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:34:33pm

If anyone is interested, the chorizo recipe is here and I pretty much follow it as-is except I’m using 12oz of pork sausage instead of a pound.

Not for the scared of spices. This is not a bland dish.

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allegro  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:35:36pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

I’ll be blunt about another thing. Too many among people who don’t have much education see environmental issues as hippie bullshit.

So do a lot of people with education.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:35:43pm

re: #151 Anymouse

Sure, I’d agree with that.

Now how do we go about it?

We actually tell them that a nation provides for everyone regardless of skin color, place of origin, creed or there lack of, etc rather than acting like their concerns are the only legitimate ones. And we don’t make promises we can’t keep like returning the economy to what it was in the initial post WWII years.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:37:17pm

re: #156 allegro

So do a lot of people with education.

Yep that’s true too. Both volunteers I’ve been working with lately actually come the environmental background. My brother’s cause since he’s been in college has been about raising awareness about the environmental impact on people i.e. water, land, etc. I think that’s how you’ll sell environmental concerns to people but it’s a lot easier said than done.

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I cannot.  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:37:31pm

re: #131 thedopefishlives

Not only that, but “make a bid in 3 months for a structure the length of the Great Wall without any necessary information about soil, bedrock, weather conditions, wildlife/indigenous people concerns, trade/travel, or even what you want the wall to actually consist of”.

It’s a Request For Vaporware

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:38:56pm
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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:40:42pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

We actually tell them that a nation provides for everyone regardless of skin color, place of origin, creed or there lack of, etc rather than acting like their concerns are the only legitimate ones. And we don’t make promises we can’t keep like returning the economy to what it was in the initial post WWII years.

And who will do this for us? The press fawning over access to fascists? In the great interior of the nation where one company owns virtually all the radio and television outlets?

I am hoping that the GOP reps and senators running from constituents will get some press. I don’t own a television set so I cannot see how local TV is covering it, but I can tell you the papers here and the radio here are ignoring it entirely (outside that poll that in the abstract asked if reps should meet with constituents).

Is the rest of the big red part of the nation like this? I don’t know because I don’t have any way to know.

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Kragar  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:40:43pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Her bio ” *Breitbart was murdered*”

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I cannot.  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:40:58pm

So, was browsing for new alarm tones…found one HELL of an effective one.

Except it was a binaural sound and I have a seizure disorder, and it was time for my medication. It didn’t trigger one, but as soon as I heard the sound, I knew that was NOT going to be my alarm.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:41:39pm

re: #153 thedopefishlives

My jests are always made with a grain of truth. I know exactly what these fuckers think when they say the things they do. Their indoctrination is now coming back to bite them in the ass. FEAR MY WRATH, BITCHES.

Oh i know but they’re not oyur actual thoughts heh. But yeah, I mean I know fellow Southerners who still view William T. Sherman the way the SS would be viewed in occupied Europe. No doubt, the Civil War was tougher on the South than the North but a point of history- the South literally started it and I’d be willing ot listen more if they showed the same concern for people of color who worry about current police brutality and older people who can remember Jim Crow.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:42:21pm

re: #162 Kragar

Her bio ” *Breitbart was murdered*”

This person is either completely insane, or doing a great impression of it.

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:42:30pm

re: #163 I cannot.

So, was browsing for new alarm tones…found one HELL of an effective one.

Except it was a binaural sound and I have a seizure disorder, and it was time for my medication. It didn’t trigger one, but as soon as I heard the sound, I knew that was NOT going to be my alarm.

Which alarm is that so I don’t use it?

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allegro  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:43:24pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

Yep that’s true too. Both volunteers I’ve been working with lately actually come the environmental background. My brother’s cause since he’s been in college has been about raising awareness about the environmental impact on people i.e. water, land, etc. I think that’s how you’ll sell environmental concerns to people but it’s a lot easier said than done.

It isn’t about words, it’s about experiences. In our culture we are far, far removed from natural pressures. We control our environments in our homes. We shop for food in grocery stores. Our water is clean and comes in hot and cold. Even those who hunt - usually from a blind sitting near a provided food station - do so on a few weekends a year and think they have a clue. As a population we are blissfully ignorant and quite happy that way. We think we’re in control and have all the answers.

We aren’t and we most certainly don’t.

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I cannot.  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:43:36pm

This one soundbible.com

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:44:46pm

Democratic candidate for Pennsylvania kicked off ballot for not living in the district. There will be no candidate for the Democrats there now …
huffingtonpost.com;

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teleskiguy  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:45:00pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:45:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:45:28pm
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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:46:37pm

re: #168 I cannot.

This one soundbible.com

Yike! That stereo moving from one speaker to the other and back … I think I’ll pass on that one.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:46:39pm

re: #161 Anymouse

And who will do this for us? The press fawning over access to fascists? In the great interior of the nation where one company owns virtually all the radio and television outlets?

I am hoping that the GOP reps and senators running from constituents will get some press. I don’t own a television set so I cannot see how local TV is covering it, but I can tell you the papers here and the radio here are ignoring it entirely (outside that poll that in the abstract asked if reps should meet with constituents).

Is the rest of the big red part of the nation like this? I don’t know because I don’t have any way to know.

That’s up to the moderate and liberal people who live in those areas. Have screenings of documentaries at the local library or community center. The documentary 13 really woke up my father up in particular about the history of racism in this country. It’s up to the people who live in our areas to inform people. I spent the afternoon a couple towns over getting petitions passed around to get a gubernatorial candidate and telling people about his agenda. Some weren’t interested but some were when I told them his agenda.

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I cannot.  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:46:52pm

What the fuck is #Tavistock? It’s a rabbit hole I’m going to regret looking down, isn’t it?

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Nyet  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:48:47pm
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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:50:06pm

re: #175 I cannot.

What the fuck is #Tavistock? It’s a rabbit hole I’m going to regret looking down, isn’t it?

Tavistock is a town in England.

The hashtag mostly has feel good stuff about the town (and a few wingnut anti-vax things).

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:50:14pm

Oh joy of joys! National Review Online impacted by the Cloudbleed bug!

Couldn’t have happened to better bunch of sycophants…..

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Nyet  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:50:50pm

re: #175 I cannot.

What the fuck is #Tavistock? It’s a rabbit hole I’m going to regret looking down, isn’t it?

NWO CT.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:51:47pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:52:52pm

re: #179 Nyet

NWO CT.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:52:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:52:53pm
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Nyet  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:53:48pm

re: #181 Anymouse

Who would have know there’s evil lurking there, behind the curtains?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:54:33pm

re: #184 Nyet

Who would have know there’s evil lurking there, behind the curtains?

It’s a fact, the Illuminati controls all those flowers.

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teleskiguy  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:54:46pm

Little Cottonwood Canyon in Utah, today. The road up the canyon closed yesterday due to several natural avalanches, one which buried three cars in one of Snowbird’s parking lots. Everyone who was up there yesterday had to “interlodge” which is basically “you have to stay and ski the best powder of your life tomorrow.” It’s a kind of holy grail in the skiing world.

The road didn’t open until this afternoon, so it was full-on country club powder skiing today up Little Cottonwood Canyon.

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Nyet  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:55:07pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

It’s a fact, the Illuminati controls all those flowers.

You see flowers, I see Illuminati members!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:55:27pm
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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:55:46pm

From that HuffPo article up the thread about an easy seat the Democrats will lose due to a court ruling:

Judge Anne Covey held that Ramirez did not meet the requirements for maintaining a domicile in the district. The court was presented with evidence of low water and energy usage for the apartment in which the candidate claimed to be living. Ramirez acknowledged that he spent multiple days of the week with his daughter at a suburban house and with his girlfriend at her home outside the district.

“I believe the court got it wrong,” Ramirez’s lawyer, Adam Bonin, told The Huffington Post.

“I can’t believe this,” said Ramirez, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer. “This is a political decision. This is not a legal decision.”

The case was initiated by the local Republican Party and joined by two Democrats, as necessary under state law.

Covey’s decision creates a real possibility that Democrats could lose a seat they should otherwise win easily. It comes amid a string of bad news for Pennsylvania Democrats. Not only did they lose ground in the state legislature in 2016 and fail to defeat U.S. Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), but a number of their elected officials have recently faced corruption convictions or allegations.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:55:47pm

re: #187 Nyet

You see flowers, I see Illuminati members!

I see the Freemasons Treemasons too.

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Nyet  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:56:49pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

I see the Freemasons Treemasons too.

Good one.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:56:58pm

re: #189 Anymouse

From that HuffPo article up the thread about an easy seat the Democrats will lose due to a court ruling:

Couldn’t they just do a write in campaign? That’s happened before. No excuse for that though.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:57:57pm

re: #191 Nyet

Good one.

CTs have always amused me. I heard a really good lecture on them sometime ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 7:59:15pm

a hat for Chuck Woolery

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Nyet  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:00:59pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

CTs have always amused me. I heard a really good lecture on them sometime ago.

Have you heard one about creatures living in underground caverns that kidnap and torture/murder people?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:01:30pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

a hat for Chuck Woolery

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:01:58pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

I thought there were four Masons…

//

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:02:33pm

re: #197 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought there were four Masons…

//

*WHACK!!!*

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:02:45pm

re: #195 Nyet

Have you heard one about creatures living in underground caverns that kidnap and torture/murder people?

No, never that’s something. My interests are more with the political ones. As you know, I wrote about the Protocols in my history term paper. It’s something how after all these years, people still believe that as fact.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:03:31pm

re: #197 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought there were four Masons…

//

Get outta heah.

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allegro  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:03:44pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

a hat for Chuck Woolery

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Nyet  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:04:12pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Well this Pizzagate thing is basically a mix of that Shaver CT and politics…

Anyway, Harlan Ellison was inspired by it to write this short story:

E is for ELEVATOR PEOPLE
They never speak, and they cannot meet your gaze. There are five hundred buildings in the United States whose elevators go deeper than the basement. When you have pressed the basement button and reached the bottom, you must press the basement button twice more. The elevator doors will close and you will hear the sound of special relays being thrown, and the elevator will descend. Into the caverns. Chance has not looked favorably on occasional voyagers in those five hundred cages. They have pressed the wrong button, too many times. They have been seized by those who shuffle through the caverns, and they have been … treated. Now they ride the cages. They never speak, and they cannot meet your gaze. They stare up at the numbers as they light and then go off, riding up and down even after night has fallen. Their clothes are clean. There is a special dry cleaner who does the work. Once you saw one of them, and her eyes were filled with screams.
London is a city filled with narrow, secure stairways.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:05:44pm

re: #202 Nyet

Well this Pizzagate thing is basically a mix of that Shaver CT and politics…

Anyway, Harlan Ellison was inspired by it to write this short story:

I like the short story. Very descriptive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:06:36pm
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prairiefire  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:07:08pm

re: #145 b_sharp

Hey B B baby!

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:08:19pm
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MsJ  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:08:40pm

re: #178 Eric The Fruit Bat

Oh joy of joys! National Review Online impacted by the Cloudbleed bug!

Couldn’t have happened to better bunch of sycophants…..

Hotair and Twitchy, too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:09:02pm

re: #207 MsJ

Hotair and Twitchy, too.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:09:11pm
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Nyet  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:10:25pm
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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:10:33pm

re: #207 MsJ

Hotair and Twitchy, too.

Cloudbleed came up as a major topic of conversation at work, because we do almost all of our work in the Azure cloud. Proper security practices matter, folks.

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I cannot.  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:12:46pm
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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:13:08pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Couldn’t they just do a write in campaign? That’s happened before. No excuse for that though.

That whole idea of “his energy and water use is low so he’s not a resident” is BS.

My village has an ordinance which requires a board member must be a resident to serve on the board.

All summer I was gone to Canada and Michigan. In December I was in California. My energy use was pretty close to zero (my water usage in December skyrocketed because of a broken pipe, but was zero in the summer).

Does that mean I am not a resident? I own one house (here), and pay taxes on it. All my bills come here. My car is registered and insured here. By every metric, this is my home (regardless of how much time I spend in it).

That court decision was BS (and note in the article the case was brought by the GOP against the Democratic candidate).

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:14:14pm

re: #211 thedopefishlives

Cloudbleed came up as a major topic of conversation at work, because we do almost all of our work in the Azure cloud. Proper security practices matter, folks.

mr. klys sent me some of the info about it, including this tweet, which is never what you want to see from a Google security researcher:

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thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:14:47pm

re: #214 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys sent me some of the info about it, including this tweet, which is never what you want to see from a Google security researcher:

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Yeah, that is definitely a sign of shit gone sideways. NOT what you want to see from a major services provider.

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prairiefire  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:14:59pm

Who’s going to be the first vape co. to make a machine like the frog on “Legion”?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:15:32pm

re: #213 Anymouse

That whole idea of “his energy and water use is low so he’s not a resident” is BS.

My village has an ordinance which requires a board member must be a resident to serve on the board.

All summer I was gone to Canada and Michigan. In December I was in California. My energy use was pretty close to zero (my water usage in December skyrocketed because of a broken pipe, but was zero in the summer).

Does that mean I am not a resident? I own one house (here), and pay taxes on it. All my bills come here. My car is registered and insured here. By every metric, this is my home (regardless of how much time I spend in it).

That court decision was BS (and note in the article the case was brought by the GOP against the Democratic candidate).

I don’t disagree but this was PA rules so their rules may differ from your state’s.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:17:57pm

re: #212 I cannot.

THIS.

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Video

I like this guy. He’s good and right on.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:19:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:22:26pm

re: #219 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:22:46pm

re: #219 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Haha!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:23:18pm

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ortega will be surprised.

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:25:03pm

re: #212 I cannot.

THIS.

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I wonder what he really thinks? /s

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Skandal  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:26:30pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:26:43pm

re: #202 Nyet

Ah. The Chocolate Alphabet. Used to have the original comic until it was thrown away by my father. Sigh.

Harlan Ellison is a wonderful writer but a festering sebaceous cyst of a human being.

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:27:16pm

re: #217 HappyWarrior

I don’t disagree but this was PA rules so their rules may differ from your state’s.

pacode.com

Nope, he was politically railroaded.

(a) Resident defined. A resident is a person who resides, and who has manifested the intent to continue to reside in this Commonwealth or a former resident of this Commonwealth who meets the criteria in paragraph (2)(i) or (ii).

(1) Evidence of intent to continue to reside in this Commonwealth includes the following:

(i) Rent, lease or purchase of a property which the applicant has made a primary residence in this Commonwealth.

(ii) Payment of State and local taxes.

(iii) Registration of personal property, such as bank accounts, stocks, and bonds and automobiles within this Commonwealth.

(iv) Possession of a current Pennsylvania driver’s license.

(v) Current registration to vote in this Commonwealth.

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Interesting Times  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:27:19pm

People were talking about Sarah Kendzior upthread; she just retweeted this:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:28:00pm

re: #226 Anymouse

pacode.com

Nope, he was politically railroaded.

Well fuck, I hope he appeals then because that’s some shit.

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BigPapa  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:28:10pm

Hero tuba player trolls entire KKK march with doofy musichttps://KKK marchers going to Rally

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:28:29pm

re: #224 Skandal

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Brilliant.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:29:10pm

re: #229 BigPapa

Hero tuba player trolls entire KKK march with doofy musichttps://[Embedded content]

Video

Someone’s a Family Guy fan hahaha.

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MsJ  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:33:04pm

re: #226 Anymouse

pacode.com

Nope, he was politically railroaded.

That looks statewide. Did you look for local requirements? Two Dems signed on with the complaint. I don’t know either way, just asking.

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allegro  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:34:08pm

re: #229 BigPapa

Hero tuba player trolls entire KKK march with doofy musichttps://[Embedded content]

Video

I love that guy! That is perfect!

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:35:56pm

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Well fuck, I hope he appeals then because that’s some shit.

The Democratic Party is considering what to do. The deadline to remove him from the ballot is fast approaching. They could appeal, but if they lose, then they have no candidate.

They could remove him, but then they have to run a new candidate with virtually no time to campaign.

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BigPapa  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:36:42pm

Nothing to brighten the day like Russian flags at CPAC and Tuba Trolling a KKK rally.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:37:09pm

re: #234 Anymouse

The Democratic Party is considering what to do. The deadline to remove him from the ballot is fast approaching. They could appeal, but if they lose, then they have no candidate.

They could remove him, but then they have to run a new candidate with virtually no time to campaign.

Well it’s a strongly Democratic seat. I’m sure if they got a candidate on there, they’d win.

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Nyet  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:37:18pm

YouTuba

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HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:37:44pm

re: #235 BigPapa

Nothing to brighten the day like Russian flags at CPAC and Tuba Trolling a KKK rally.

It was a good day. I am glad my boss let me take the day off.

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:42:18pm

re: #232 MsJ

That looks statewide. Did you look for local requirements? Two Dems signed on with the complaint. I don’t know either way, just asking.

Dems signed on because Penna. law requires that.

Philadelphia requirements:
philadelphiavotes.com

Let’s use an argumentum ad absurdum.

I am super rich, and I own six houses. I live in each house for two months. One of those is still my permanent residence, even though I am not in it ten months a year.

Another example: YOLO, I’m spending my grandkids’ inheritance with my motor home and a National Park Pass. I am only home the three months of the winter, the rest of the time I am on the Interstate or in a national park. Is my home of record a national park, an Interstate, or the place where my motor home is registered, where I’m registered to vote, where I pay taxes on my house (and maybe my motor home), &c.

Military personnel deal with this on a regular basis. When I enlisted in Michigan, I was never stationed there. My home-of-record was still Michigan: It was listed in my personnel file, I paid my state income tax there, I still had a driver’s license from there, &c. Just because I spent almost all of my first enlistment in Virginia Beach did not revoke my residency in my home town.

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teleskiguy  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:42:51pm

re: #229 BigPapa

That’s actually a sousaphone.

*pedant mode off*

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:48:27pm

Another example: I use almost no water from the city, because I buy Culligan water.

That was the crux of the court’s decision, that he did not use enough water and electricity to establish residency.

What amount of water and electricity must I use to be a resident? Does that mean an Old Order Amish person in Penna. or in Philadelphia is not a resident, simply because the person does not use electricity at all?

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stpaulbear  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:49:24pm

re: #224 Skandal

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Could this already be Mike Pence’s ‘potatoe’?

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BigPapa  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:49:41pm

re: #240 teleskiguy

That’s actually a sousaphone.

*pedant mode off*

Haha, left it out the as Pedant Bait and I got you.

Hero tuba player trolls entire KKK march with doofy music

Update: Numerous band geeks have pointed out that it’s actually not a tuba but a sousaphone. I apologize for the error, and I’m hereby resigning from my distinguished post at Death and Taxes.

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allegro  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:50:55pm

re: #239 Anymouse

That made me think of a couple of years when I would go to work during the day, come home, change clothes, get the dog, and spend most nights at my boyfriend’s house. Go home in the morning, get ready for work, hug the dog and go to work. Weekends I was most often at his place or off during surveys for clients. Where did I live? At my home, where all my stuff was, where I got my mail, where my dog was when not with me, etc. Sounds much like his situation. What determines where home is if not that stuff?

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teleskiguy  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:52:15pm

re: #243 BigPapa

I played all the bass clef brass instruments in primary school. Baritone horn, tuba, sousaphone, but my specialty was trombone. 1st chair trombonist all through high school.

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Anymouse  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:54:09pm

re: #244 allegro

That made me think of a couple of years when I would go to work during the day, come home, change clothes, get the dog, and spend most nights at my boyfriend’s house. Go home in the morning, get ready for work, hug the dog and go to work. Weekends I was most often at his place or off during surveys for clients. Where did I live? At my home, where all my stuff was, where I got my mail, where my dog was when not with me, etc. Sounds much like his situation. What determines where home is if not that stuff?

That was exactly his claim in court: He spent a lot of time at his girlfriend’s house in the suburbs.

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Nyet  Feb 24, 2017 • 8:59:34pm

re: #214 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Somewhat of a fascinating read:

bugs.chromium.org

The tshirt bit is funny.

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Nyet  Feb 24, 2017 • 9:01:37pm
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Nyet  Feb 24, 2017 • 9:04:43pm
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retired cynic  Feb 24, 2017 • 9:06:36pm

re: #245 teleskiguy

I played all the bass clef brass instruments in primary school. Baritone horn, tuba, sousaphone, but my specialty was trombone. 1st chair trombonist all through high school.

Cool. My father and my mother’s father played baritones; my brother played trombone. I played clarinet, and my mother piano and full pipe organ.

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BeachDem  Feb 24, 2017 • 10:03:21pm

re: #224 Skandal

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