Look Out, Here Come the Birthers Again, Led by “Malik Obama” and Drudge Report

Not this idiotic conspiracy theory again
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Birtherism. The right wing conspiracy theory that refuses to die, even when Barack Obama is no longer president. What can you even say about these lunatics at this point, except to note with sad amusement that the US right wing seems to be completely nuts.

The latest explosion of crazed Birtherism started with a tweet by “Malik Obama” (an account that many people, myself included, suspect is actually being run by white supremacist Chuck C. Johnson):

This “birth certificate” was debunked eight years ago. It’s a blatant fake. For starters, the date of birth is in US format: mm/dd/yyyy.

But who cares? Not the right wing Birther community, that’s for sure! Notice it has thousands of retweets and favorites.

And it’s being amplified by the biggest right wing megaphones on the web: Drudge Report and the Stupidest Man on the Internet.

And the frosting on this many-layered cake of idiocy: Jim Hoft, in his usual brainless fashion, tweeted the wrong address for that fake Malik Obama account.

The real question is: will Donald Trump take the bait and go on a 5 am rage-tweeting binge about this HUGE BREAKING NEWS? Stay tuned for further developments in right wing bad craziness.

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322 comments

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Skip Intro  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:15:55pm

CCJ has really made the Malik account his own. It’s an open sewer, so of course @jack has no problem with it.

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EPR-radar  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:16:23pm

Oh look, it’s these assholes, again.

It applies as well to birtherism as it does to any of the countless other elements of RWNJ derangement they inflict on us all over and over and over again.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:18:46pm

re: #2 EPR-radar

Oh look, it’s these assholes, again.

It applies as well to birtherism as it does to any of the countless other elements of RWNJ derangement they inflict on us all over and over and over again.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:19:08pm

Night Lizards, Type at you in the mourning.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:19:48pm

Counterpunch:

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:20:18pm

re: #4 Bubblehead II

Night Lizards, Type at you in the mourning.

Well, I guess as a submariner you’re going to sink into sleep? /s

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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:20:20pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:21:17pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:21:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:22:51pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:24:27pm

Colbert wins the internet.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:24:51pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:24:58pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:26:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:26:03pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:26:14pm

Watching Rachel and just posted this in the now dead thread:

Rachel is getting interesting tonight. She is talking about how well coordinated the Wikileaks DNC emails were with Trump talking points and campaign cues. Timing of it all seems very well planned by the groups. She’s tying RT America, Roger Stone, the Trump campaign and Wikileaks all together. Who put them all together…Russia.

And now we have the CIA info on Wikileaks…and she is saying it is round 2 for Putin who not only hates the U.S. State Depart currently being tore up but hates the CIA.

Spy versus Spy. It’s a real Mad world isn’t it?

And she just asked if the Russian “campaign” against us over, or still in process? (She’s now in a break)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:28:33pm

West Virginia’s Republican Senator haz a sad…

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Skip Intro  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:29:08pm

re: #16 ObserverArt

I thought all of that was pretty obvious.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:29:40pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

Surely Trump can call them up and keep those jobs… . hahahahaha ah no.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:30:15pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:30:48pm

re: #19 Anymouse

Surely Trump can call them up and keep those jobs… . hahahahaha ah no.

Damn Injuns. Why don’t they just open a casino?

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:31:01pm

re: #18 Skip Intro

I thought all of that was pretty obvious.

Unfortunately, the people who need to hear things like Dr. Maddow’s analyses are not likely to do so (or in places around here, not even have access to them).

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:33:35pm

Republicare:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:34:38pm

So @chrislhayes asked Congressman Steve King (R-IA) how many of his constituents were covered by Obamacare. HE HAS NO IDEA

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:36:40pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:37:10pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:38:47pm

re: #18 Skip Intro

I thought all of that was pretty obvious.

It is for those aware, but it’s good to see her continue it and now tie in the CIA stuff as a continuation of the Russian messing about to help change our government. The state department is being cut down, CIA is being looked at as a Trump enemy, so investigate and then blow them up too.

More people need to be told, and told again. This is all part of the need to stay on message to get Trump out ASAP and I am glad someone does get to keep bringing it up as long as she can. Who knows how long before Trump forces MSNBC to shut up people like Rachel?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:39:45pm

Düsseldorf police spokesman Andre Hartwich said one suspect has been arrested and police were investigating the motive. Authorities identified the suspect as a 36-year-old man who lived in the city of Wuppertal, located about 20 miles from Düsseldorf. He originally moved to Germany from the former Yugoslavia and “apparently has mental issues,” according to a police statement released late Thursday night. Authorities did not name the suspect.

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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:39:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:41:51pm
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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:42:46pm

Continued from the previous thread:
re: #175 majii

I don’t know whether the account is real or not, but I do know MO seems to hate BO. Old dude was personally invited to one of the Clinton/Trump debates by Trump and did declare that, “Trump can make America great again.” He reminds of my cousin, Alveda King, who I do not tell anyone I’m related to. AK has never seen a right-wing meme or idea she’d reject. Very few members of my family want anyone to know she’s related to them. My mom and Coretta Scott King were second cousins. CSK would attend our family reunions in Tuscaloosa, AL, which are held on even-numbered years.

Related to Coretta Scott King? Wow. As for Alveda King, if you are related to her I can see why you wouldn’t really want to associate with her much.

(My family doesn’t hold reunions because most of us don’t want to associate with each other, but that’s another story and doesn’t have to do with wingnuts.)

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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:42:46pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:42:57pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:43:06pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:45:23pm

The Trump Maladministration

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Shazam  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:45:48pm

I heard a Fox News guy complain that the Democrats didn’t offer any alternative to the GOP health care bill. I’m sure no one on the show responded, but I hope everyone on Twitter reminded him the Democrats’ alternative proposal was already passed and called the Affordable Care Act.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:48:20pm

Someone must have told Trump about how there will be more money for him and the rich if Medicaid gets cut big time. He probably said he didn’t know that so how soon can that happen?

Hey, if he can go out on 5th Ave and shoot someone and no one cares, why would anyone care if he does this?

This is making America (Donald J.) Great Again!

Besides…he is President and this is a valuable pivot.

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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:49:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:49:45pm
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LastYearsMan  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:50:09pm

Meanwhile in South Korea … Park Geun-Hye has been removed from office. Peacefully and legally. Score one for the good guys.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:52:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:52:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:54:22pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:57:26pm
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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 6:59:28pm

re: #36 Shazam

I heard a Fox News guy complain that the Democrats didn’t offer any alternative to the GOP health care bill. I’m sure no one on the show responded, but I hope everyone on Twitter reminded him the Democrats’ alternative proposal was already passed and called the Affordable Care Act.

We also offered such things as single-payer health care (or sometimes packaged as “Medicare for All” but I’m sure FOX is uninterested in bringing that up.re:

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:01:16pm

re: #46 gocart mozart

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With that I just passed the disgusted level for today. Time to get away from it to reset and be able to tolerate Friday. Fridays have been just a little wild politically lately. Later.

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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:02:31pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:04:43pm

re: #48 ObserverArt

With that I just passed the disgusted level for today. Time to get away from it to reset and be able to tolerate Friday. Fridays have been just a little wild politically lately. Later.

Today’s been a drinking day for me. (Currently, I have been alternating drinking and sober days for a variety of reasons.) It’s a damn good thing, too; the political news hasn’t been any better than the work news.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:05:24pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:06:07pm

(I added the credit card signs)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:06:51pm

Jesus Christ.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:07:52pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

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Or you could have voted for someone who actually gave a shit about you having decent health care.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:09:43pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

Seems like a pic/story out of the Onion.

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:09:53pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:10:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:12:28pm

re: #57 FormerDirtDart

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Comrade Stalin should purge traitors from the Politboro. Hannityskov 1937.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:13:23pm

re: #57 FormerDirtDart

None of this would be an issue if Drumpf was a sane and rational President. The only reason there is this deep-seated fear of “deep state saboteurs” is because he is Fuckface von Clownstick, Master of Dumbasses, and nobody wants to provide him with the tools that would make him truly dangerous.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:15:25pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:15:46pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:16:00pm

I you hadn’t heard, Fukushima is being overrun by feral radioactive boars

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thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:16:15pm

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

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Yeah, and Stalin hastily reverted a large percentage of the generals he purged from the Soviet Army when the Germans rocked on up to within sighting distance of the Kremlin.

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Targetpractice  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:17:34pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

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Woman expresses shock that all those warnings that she was voting for leopards to eat her face were true.

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majii  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:17:49pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

She decided to get on the Trump & Co. Bandwagon last year and only now realizes that there was a d*mn slow-burning fire under the wagon, that the fire has flared up and is in the bed of the wagon, heading towards her, and it is about to burn up her healthcare, along with the healthcare of all of his other supporters who depended upon the PPACA for affordable healthcare. She’s the second voter in two days who is sorry for having voted for Trump. The woman the LA Times covered in a story yesterday said she thought Trump’s talk about destroying the PPACA was only “bluster.” I don’t feel sorry for any of these tools, and I am not in the mood to listen to their whining. Grown people should know what they’re voting for before they turn in their ballots.

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Shazam  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:17:51pm

You know, if they can suddenly prove Obama was born in Kenya it would completely erase the last eight years.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:18:46pm

Man, the nuts are really raging in my timeline tonight.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:19:09pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Man, the nuts are really raging in my timeline tonight.

Just another day in Drumpfland.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:20:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:20:08pm

LOOK AT DAVIS’S EMAIL ADDRESS

and the reason he gives for using THAT address…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:20:10pm

Oh, my god. That’s how fucking stupid those guys are. They’re passing around something that’s been debunked since 2009 as if it’s something new.

I’m losing all faith in humanity and in the future of this country. The cabal of the stupid and the dishonest is just too powerful.

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Skip Intro  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:20:23pm

Every single hour it gets worse.

BREAKING - Sessions May Appoint Outside Counsel to Investigate Obama’s DOJ and IRS. Maybe, Attorney Orly Taitz will be a counsel concentrating on Obama’s use of a stolen CT Social security number [ … ] . This is the most damning evidence against him

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calochortus  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:23:07pm

re: #68 Shazam

You know, if they can suddenly prove Obama was born in Kenya it would completely erase the last eight years.

I’ve actually seen it suggested that it would invalidate any legislation from his presidency.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:23:47pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, my god. That’s how fucking stupid those guys are. They’re passing around something that’s been debunked since 2009 as if it’s something new.

I’m losing all faith in humanity and in the future of this country. The cabal of the stupid and the dishonest is just too powerful.

Conservatives have been at this for a long time (thanks, Reagan, for axing the Fairness Doctrine). Propaganda’s a helluva drug when you pump it out for a whole generation.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:24:13pm

re: #75 calochortus

I’ve actually seen it suggested that it would invalidate any legislation from his presidency.

Oh, please. That’s such a wingnut wet dream. Constitutionally speaking, that legislation was passed by both houses of Congress. I’d love to seem them try to overturn the ACA based on Obama’s supposed illegitimacy. It would bring me great joy.

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:25:28pm
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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:27:10pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:27:51pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:28:55pm

re: #79 Anymouse

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Of course they deny the existence of the Deep State! That’s exactly what they WOULD do if the Deep State existed!!!

Mind you, it’s also exactly what they would do if the Deep State DIDN’T exist.

So, there’s that.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:30:46pm
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Kragar  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:31:14pm

re: #79 Anymouse

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thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:32:29pm

re: #83 Kragar

Fucking hell, I just noticed, but… people are retweeting Infowars as a serious source? Fuck me. This is worse than I thought.

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LastYearsMan  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:33:15pm

So, Canada dumped Rob Ford and Ron Harper. Now Korea’s dumped Park Geun-Hye. America — ball is in your court!
twitter.com

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Targetpractice  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:34:10pm

re: #85 LastYearsMan

So, Canada dumped Rob Ford and Ron Harper. Now Korea’s dumped Park Geun-Hye. America — ball is in your court!
twitter.com

We’re moving as fast as we can. Doesn’t help that we’re effectively working with both hands behind our backs.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:36:15pm

Automatic Blocking Function Triggered

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Shazam  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:36:35pm

How do we start a federal recall election?

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:37:09pm

re: #88 Shazam

How do we start a federal recall election?

There is none.

Best you can do is be sure in 2018 that the Democrats take control of the House. That’s your only option.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:38:57pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:42:34pm

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:43:41pm

re: #91 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Yay, we’re in the top five MAGA.

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Jenner7  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:45:24pm

My Mom spoke with her nutty sister last night. She’s convinced we already have sharia law in the country and that Muslims hate us.

These two didn’t speak for three weeks after Trump won.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:48:21pm

Huntingdon Beach, CA WW2 vet (aged ninety) sang The Star-Spangled Banner at a city council meeting, marking the day President Herbert Hoover designated it as the official anthem of the United States.

He always wanted to sing the song perfectly, so five years ago he took professional voice lessons to learn how to do that.

latimes.com

(includes video of him singing the anthem at the city council meeting)

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Skip Intro  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:50:04pm

Take it from the people who have been there.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:52:58pm

re: #95 Skip Intro

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Take it from the people who have been there.

“Blonde is the new Brown”

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bratwurst  Mar 9, 2017 • 7:53:31pm

re: #95 Skip Intro

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Take it from the people who have been there.

It says “blonde is the new brown”…brown, in this case, the color associated with the Nazis.

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Moebym  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:02:37pm

I’m too late to comment on the now-dead Pence thread, but I know a person who has convinced himself Pence would make a better President than Trump: a staunch Democrat who spent countless hours volunteering for Hillary’s campaign.

Our last conversation on this topic did not go well, as it consisted of me trying to convince him that Pence and Trump are equally dangerous (only in different ways) and him shaking his head “no”. He thinks Pence won’t have enough time to enact his extreme agenda, and will encounter strong opposition from what will (fingers crossed) at least be a blue Senate. Besides, he said, Pence at least is more stable, and likely won’t have Bannon whispering in his ear at all times.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:07:39pm

re: #98 Moebym

I’m too late to comment on the now-dead Pence thread, but I know a person who has convinced himself Pence would make a better President: a staunch Democrat who spent countless hours volunteering for Hillary’s campaign.

Our last conversation on this topic did not go well, as it consisted of me trying to convince him that Pence and Trump are equally dangerous, only in different ways, and him shaking his head “no”. He thinks Pence won’t have enough time to enact his extreme agenda, and will encounter strong opposition from what will (fingers crossed) at least be a blue Senate. Besides, he said, Pence at least is more stable, and likely won’t have Bannon whispering in his ear at all times.

I imagine the Republican Party would be much happier with Mike Pence. His agenda pretty much aligns with the GOP House and Senate.

Pence might not be as dangerous as Trump in the sense he isn’t trying to use Russia to undermine the USA (though there might be a question now since it seems just about everyone on Trump’s team is doing that), but he’d be every bit as dangerous to the populace with his evangelical Calvinist outlook (were Calvinists the original Objectivists?)

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Moebym  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:11:35pm

re: #99 Anymouse

I imagine the Republican Party would be much happier with Mike Pence. His agenda pretty much aligns with the GOP House and Senate.

Pence might not be as dangerous as Trump in the sense he isn’t trying to use Russia to undermine the USA (though there might be a question now since it seems just about everyone on Trump’s team is doing that), but he’d be every bit as dangerous to the populace with his evangelical Calvinist outlook (were Calvinists the original Objectivists?)

I used essentially that line of reasoning (though not quite as eloquently), but he is pretty much convinced that he’s correct.

This is the kind of situation in which I’d rather not be proven correct…

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KGxvi  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:15:30pm

Looks like the kid that was assaulted by the off duty cop in Anaheim a few weeks ago has filed suit. Curious to see how that plays out since it doesn’t appear that any criminal charges have been filed… yet.

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:16:12pm
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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:18:29pm

I read a comment over at Huffington Post on how a Democratic candidate won in Oklahoma (where every county went for Donald Trump).

huffingtonpost.com

The comment reads “How do you make a red county blue? Elect Donald Trump.”

My wife started singing

Don’t it make my red state blue

(with apologies to Crystal Gayle).

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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:28:02pm

Birthers are just coming out of the woodwork in my Twitter mentions.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:32:27pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Birthers are just coming out of the woodwork in my Twitter mentions.

My condolences. I could not put up with the monumental pile of derp you deal with every day.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:34:37pm
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retired cynic  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:34:48pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Birthers are just coming out of the woodwork in my Twitter mentions.

I can loan you a good mouser.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:37:06pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Birthers are just coming out of the woodwork in my Twitter mentions.

Off topic, Mr. Johnson, but 801 more comments and you reach 100,000. Just thought you should know.

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retired cynic  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:38:22pm

re: #108 Anymouse

How many times around?

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:39:08pm

re: #109 retired cynic

How many times around?

Did Mr. Johnson reset his number? I don’t know how his Website works with that.

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retired cynic  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:41:01pm

re: #110 Anymouse

Did Mr. Johnson reset his number? I don’t know how his Website works with that.

Apologies. I thought you meant karma. But actually, over that many years, I would be surprised at nothing.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:46:24pm

Support for veterans from conservatives continues… .

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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:47:18pm
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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:48:22pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:50:25pm

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 8:58:19pm
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jaunte  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:00:01pm
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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:00:21pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:02:47pm

re: #118 Anymouse

Omarosa is not even a proper WH official. She’s just a crony that Trump named to some eye-candy job. That’s really an insult to the veterans.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:04:07pm

re: #119 wheat-dogg

Omarosa is not even a proper WH official. She’s just a crony that Trump named to some eye-candy job. That’s really an insult to the veterans.

It’s certainly a new low bar for conservative insults of veterans … at least in the past they at least paid lip service to veterans’ organisations.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:08:57pm

ICE detained a woman for a month, though she is a citizen.
huffingtonpost.com

The article starts

Elizabeth Hernandez-Carrillo was at home in Lilburn, Georgia, last month when Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents stormed her building and arrested her in a raid, locking her in a detention center with the intention of deporting her to Mexico. But she insists she’s a U.S. citizen, even though she has faced a deportation order for several years.

Authorities eventually released her on Wednesday after she spent a month in detention, Hiba Ghalib, her attorney, told The Huffington Post.

The situation of Hernandez-Carrillo, a mother of four children, one of whom is a Marine, highlights the complex problems facing the immigration system.

She was born in Mexico and moved to the U.S. with her mother and stepfather ― a U.S. citizen ― when she was 10 years old, Ghalib said. Up until recently, Hernandez-Carrillo assumed she would remain a permanent resident through her stepfather, who legally adopted her after he married her mom. But she eventually discovered that her birth father was actually a citizen himself, making her eligible for citizenship.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:14:43pm

re: #117 jaunte

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Joe Bacon  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:20:29pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

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I deal with brainwashed Trumpettes like that every day at work. I had to help one of my coworkers with a caller who drove her to tears. I got on the phone with that Trumpette and he was whining about having his Medicare premium deducted from his Social Security check. Idiot said, “Them N-WORDS” don’t have to pay that because of that “N-WORD” President”.

Then he uttered “I can’t wait for our new “Christ-Centered” President to send them “N-WORDS” back to Africa”.

All of which proves that ol’ LBJ told the truth about White Trash!

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:20:53pm

Oh brother, the Omarosa Manigault story gets even worse.
thedailybeast.com

There is no such position that Omarosa is claiming.

Several described their surprise at that meeting to see that Omarosa was not only present at the meeting, but appeared to be the most senior transition staff member attending, despite having no experience with either the VA or healthcare. Omarosa explained her qualifications by saying that she had once been a lieutenant chaplain with the California State Military Reserve.

“When Omarosa was introduced the room collectively gasped,” said one attendee, who asked to remain anonymous to avoid conflict with the White House. “There were people there missing limbs and she was once a chaplain with the militia.” Another in attendance said, “There was an obvious disconnect between that transition team and, at that point, New York.”

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Interesting Times  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:21:31pm

re: #103 Anymouse

I read a comment over at Huffington Post on how a Democratic candidate won in Oklahoma (where every county went for Donald Trump).

huffingtonpost.com

Get a load of this quote from the article itself:

Democrats don’t have to throw out their values,” Maxwell insists. “Democrats don’t even have to abandon their issues. It’s about how you frame it. It’s about connecting with people and showing them how your ideas fit with their values.

This is what I was (at least trying) to say earlier, only to get reamed for it -_- Can’t for the life of me figure out why some people choose to look down their noses at proven effective marketing techniques. They’re tools and methods that, while traditionally associated with hoodwinking and deception, can also be used as a force for good.

Why is that so hard to understand and accept?

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:26:01pm

re: #125 Interesting Times

That’s pretty much it. Figuring out how to frame arguments is sometimes quite difficult, however.

For example, on the abortion issue, it really is a shame that the forced-birthers tried to seize the moral high-ground with the simple slogan “pro-life.” There is nothing pro-life about their position; it’s the liberal position that is pro-life (wanting every child to have a decent shot at health, education, safety, security, &c).

There is nothing pro-life about supporting the death penalty (the cognitive dissonance of that one amazes me).

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Joe Bacon  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:27:03pm

re: #91 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Hmmmm…now I just wonder why those health insurance tax credits would decrease in 49 states but go up in New Hampshire????

Gosh, what could be so special about New Hampshire?????

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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:30:55pm
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Interesting Times  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:31:52pm

re: #126 Anymouse

There is nothing pro-life about supporting the death penalty (the cognitive dissonance of that one amazes me).

The rationale I heard (as in, exact words of an anti-choicer defending her position) was that the fetus is “innocent” while a convicted murderer isn’t. Followed by some fanciful religious rhetoric I don’t recall.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:32:10pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:33:07pm

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:33:24pm

re: #124 Anymouse

Chaplain was her job. Lt was her rank. Never heard it called a Lt Chaplain ever.

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:34:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:34:32pm
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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:36:22pm

re: #131 goddamnedfrank

Anything interesting?

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I cannot.  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:40:00pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:40:14pm
Cpl. Josh Ray Person: Aw no, Christ lover at my nine.
Sgt. Brad “Iceman” Colbert: Coming this way?
Cpl. Josh Ray Person: Yeah, ETA’s like 10 seconds.
Sgt. Brad “Iceman” Colbert: Like I gotta deal with this too…
Lt. Commander Bodley: Men. I’m holding a service, and I wonder if you would take comfort in pausing for a word of prayer.
Cpl. Josh Ray Person: Oh, no thank you Lieutenant Commander. We got the warning order, so it looks like we’re going to be moving out to kill a lot more of these Godless heathens for you. But don’t worry, we will not rest until the Iraqi threat to your way of worship has been completely neutralized.
Lt. Commander Bodley: I’m aware of the warning order, and it’s for that reason that we’re congregating right now for a brief service of…
Cpl. Josh Ray Person: The other thing is, is that my team leader here, Sgt. Colbert? Yeah, he was born a Hebrew, and remains a practicing Christ killer. So it’s purely out of respect for him, I feel as though I’m going to have to forego your festive rituals.

Lance Corporal Harold James Trombley: I don’t know why you guys are down on this shit. I’m a Christian.
Sergeant Brad ‘Iceman’ Colbert: Theologically speaking, Trombley, the world’s been going downhill ever since man first offered entrails to the gods.
Lance Corporal Harold James Trombley: What’s that mean? Entrails?
Corporal Josh Ray Person: That religion is gay.
Sergeant Brad ‘Iceman’ Colbert: The point, Lance Corporal: we’re supposed to be a recon unit of pure warrior spirit. We’re out here, 40 klicks in enemy lines, and this man of God here, he’s a fuckin’ POG. In fact, he’s an officer POG. That’s one more layer of bureaucracy and unnecessary logistics, one more asshole we need to supply MREs and baby wipes for. And worst of all, worst of all, the motherfucker doesn’t even carry a weapon. When push comes to shove even Rolling Stone picks up a gun but this fuckin’ shill of God, he can’t cover a sector, he’ll never hump ammo or Claymores. This is a fuckin’ war and we’re here as warriors, so on top of everything else that’s expected of us do we really need to drag him along and indulge in this make-believe bullshit?
Corporal Josh Ray Person: Oh, no. Now not only do we have to worry about all the Charms you’ve eaten, but now Brad’s just pissed off God.

Generation Kill - Christ Lover At My Nine

Iceman’s God Rant

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Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:43:20pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

How many international experts need to say

None, but these experts they speak of don’t exist.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:46:00pm

re: #135 Whack-A-Mole

Anything interesting?

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:47:41pm

re: #133 Kragar

I don’t know which is worse, the fake account, or the person trying to make hay out of the fake account.

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:53:18pm

re: #139 goddamnedfrank

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William Lewis  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:53:20pm

re: #131 goddamnedfrank

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:56:15pm

re: #129 Interesting Times

The rationale I heard (as in, exact words of an anti-choicer defending her position) was that the fetus is “innocent” while a convicted murderer isn’t. Followed by some fanciful religious rhetoric I don’t recall.

Even when the convicted murder is in fact innocent … something something price of freedom.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 9:57:21pm

re: #141 Whack-A-Mole

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:00:08pm

Lying for Jesus, a really good grift if you are unethical enough to take it:
snopes.com

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:01:42pm

Not only that, this wingnut claim is already a year old. Recycling a lie for Jesus is the new environmentalism.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:03:41pm
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retired cynic  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:05:18pm

re: #147 goddamnedfrank

Surprise. /

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:08:31pm

re: #142 William Lewis

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:09:46pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:10:06pm

Tough love.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:11:38pm

re: #150 Anymouse

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William Lewis  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:13:40pm

re: #149 goddamnedfrank

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:16:58pm

More Snopes, this time calling out a fake news site only created last month. After Snopes called it out as fake news, they added a disclaimer to their Website.

Whoopi Goldberg said that “military widows love their 15 minutes in the spotlight.”

False, she said no such thing.

The fake site is undergroundnewsreport (dot) com. I do not know how to get to the list of LGF fake news sites so I don’t know if this Website is listed there.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:18:03pm

Left out the Snopes article link:
snopes.com

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:18:31pm
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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:19:56pm
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Kragar  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:28:46pm

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

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austin_blue  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:28:49pm

re: #151 goddamnedfrank

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Tough love.

Tough shit.

Or as they say in the Mexican Marines, Tougho Shito

Or as they say in the Russian Marines, Toughski Shitski.

Sucks to be you, addict face. Just die, okay?

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:29:12pm

Ruh roh, if you’ve lost Tehran Tom:

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:32:07pm

My wife was cackling insanely just now … I thought there might be something wrong, and asked her what she was on about.

She said she was eating a fortune cookie, and was laughing at the fortune therein:

You will live a long life, and eat many fortune cookies.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:35:27pm

LOL, a writer to my local paper has “the answer” to the political problem of trangenders and bathrooms.
starherald.com

More above at the link …

Among a group of friends recently, one spoke of a possible solution to the transgender issue of which toilet to use. His idea hearkened to our forefather’s era. His sagacious solution not only raised eyebrows. It prompted hearty laughter. He spoke of the antiquated out house. He expanded, “We all used the same out house then.” So therein lies a simple solution, all use the same bathrooms — with a lock on the door.

Perhaps this solution from Nebraska hay seeds may not reach the ears of Washington D.C. legislators, but here in the Good life, we certainly share a good laugh when the opportunity affords itself. In the unlikely event we do not resort to the tried and true use of the trusty outhouse, we must consider heavy snowfalls. How would we open the door with heavy snow piled against the door? Again, we learn from our ancestors. Double-decker outhouses with one door above the ground floor works well. One walks on deep snow, opens the top door, then contemplates merits of the universe inside and searches for the Montgomery Wards catalogue. Of course, we’d have the added expense of two locks for each outhouse.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:35:38pm

re: #159 austin_blue

Tough shit.

Or as they say in the Mexican Marines, Tougho Shito

Or as they say in the Russian Marines, Toughski Shitski.

Sucks to be you, addict face. Just die, okay?

LOL I’m so fucking jaded man. I mean, statistically the mostly white mostly rural populations hardest hit by this epidemic voted for Trump. They voted for him in part because he sold them on blaming everyone (especially Mexico) except themselves for their addictions.

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austin_blue  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:36:05pm

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

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Haven’t we been stabilizing Afghanistan since 2001?

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:39:12pm

re: #164 austin_blue

Haven’t we been stabilizing Afghanistan since 2001?

I’m really sick of conservative politicians that think the solution to everything (especially their failed policies) is go into combat somewhere.

The last thing I want to do is welcome more people into the club I’m in that no one wants to be part of (Gold Star Families), and this Syria nonsense all but guarantees that.

Moreover, since Russia’s troops are in Syria by that government’s invitation, what happens if our own troops wind up in a firefight with them? Gaaa.

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austin_blue  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:45:25pm

re: #163 goddamnedfrank

LOL I’m so fucking jaded man. I mean, statistically the mostly white mostly rural populations hardest hit by this epidemic voted for Trump. They voted for him in part because he sold them on blaming everyone (especially Mexico) except themselves for their addictions.

Limbaugh gobbled so much Oxy he fucking *deafened* himself. He had the money to buy cochlear implants.

The white people, many poor whites, are just being fucked up the patootie by the majority of Congress and the Prexy they just elected.

I’m getting popcorn and watching those same elected assholes crawfish. I mean, really, when you lose Tom Cotton, an absolute fascist-lite son of a bitch, you have serious problems.

Might be be helpful if they had some guidance from the White House, but well, meh. They seem to be busy gutting the professional, informed, committed bureaucracy that has successfully led this country through thick and thin for the past century.

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austin_blue  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:48:03pm

re: #165 Anymouse

I’m really sick of conservative politicians that think the solution to everything (especially their failed policies) is go into combat somewhere.

The last thing I want to do is welcome more people into the club I’m in that no one wants to be part of (Gold Star Families), and this Syria nonsense all but guarantees that.

Moreover, since Russia’s troops are in Syria by that government’s invitation, what happens if our own troops wind up in a firefight with them? Gaaa.

There will be an “unfortunate friendly fire incident”.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:48:32pm

New Keith Olbermann: Donald Trump’s speech didn’t age well.

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Anymouse  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:49:54pm

re: #167 austin_blue

There will be an “unfortunate friendly fire incident”.

That wouldn’t surprise me.

And the idea that any Republican would consider Russia friendly at all really chaps my veteran patootie.

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austin_blue  Mar 9, 2017 • 10:53:47pm

re: #169 Anymouse

That wouldn’t surprise me.

And the idea that any Republican would consider Russia friendly at all really chaps my veteran patootie.

Mine too. We are at cross purposes with the Bear like nothing I’ve seen since the USSR went tits up.

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austin_blue  Mar 9, 2017 • 11:33:44pm

Well, Bedtime for this Bonzo. Sweet dreams to you all.

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Anymouse  Mar 10, 2017 • 12:51:34am

Oh marvy. The nude photo scandal on Facebook being investigated by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service has now expanded to all four branches of the military. Worse, it is now international news.

bbc.com

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 10, 2017 • 2:23:46am

Godammit! This is the kind of foul shit that makes you want to amend the Constitution to allow crucifixion or drawing and quartering.

Four suspects face more charges in starvation death of 9-year-old Indiana boy after meth was found in his system

Kid weighed 15 pounds when cops found him.

The suspects:

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2017 • 2:33:10am

re: #173 Shiplord Kirel

How much you want to bet that if these evil scum suckers voted last November, that they voted for Fuckface Von Clownstick?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 10, 2017 • 2:45:51am

re: #173 Shiplord Kirel

Godammit! This is the kind of foul shit that makes you want to amend the Constitution to allow crucifixion or drawing and quartering.

Four suspects face more charges in starvation death of 9-year-old Indiana boy after meth was found in his system

Kid weighed 15 pounds when cops found him.

The suspects:

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Vigo County’s seat is Terre Haute. I’m guessing these folks did not go to either ISU or Rose-Hulman.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 10, 2017 • 2:54:50am

re: #175 wheat-dogg

Vigo County’s seat is Terre Haute. I’m guessing these folks did not go to either ISU or Rose-Hulman.

As Vigo County goes, so goes the country, or so I’ve heard.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 10, 2017 • 2:57:34am

By the way, did Jerome Corsi or someone like that go to Kenya to do a special investigation into the Birth Certificate years and years ago? If Swift Boaters had been remotely able to pull a convincing scam they would have. Some mornings I simply can’t give my country the benefit of the the doubt.

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Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2017 • 3:13:09am

Good morning.

If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device - Episode 2: Religiosity

How have I not found this series earlier?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 10, 2017 • 3:24:46am

re: #177 Barefoot Grin

By the way, did Jerome Corsi or someone like that go to Kenya to do a special investigation into the Birth Certificate years and years ago? If Swift Boaters had been remotely able to pull a convincing scam they would have. Some mornings I simply can’t give my country the benefit of the the doubt.

What I don’t get is why bring up this birth certificate shit *again*, with a copy of the bc that’s already been used and debunked repeatedly, with Obama two months out of office? These people — and I believe Charles is correct in saying Chuckie J is running the Malik Obama Twitter account — are just obsessed with Obama. Like he lives in their heads as some sort of supernatural entity.

Rage Furby (or whoever @obamamalik really is) could be just trolling everyone for the lulz. Or it could be an effort to discredit Obama yet again, since Trump is convinced BHO tried to sabotage his campaign somehow and is trying to sabotage his administration. Ever since Ted Cruz turned out to be an also-ran, Rage Furby jumped onto the Trump train in hero-worship mode, so he could be trying to curry favor with The Donald.

Or I’m overthinking all this, and the person running the account is a total idiot.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 10, 2017 • 3:26:45am

Like this tweet, for example. It reads like a 4channer wrote it.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 10, 2017 • 3:32:38am

re: #180 wheat-dogg

Ya think??

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I cannot.  Mar 10, 2017 • 3:36:43am

re: #178 Varek Raith

Imma gonna disappear down that rabbit hole for a while…BWAHAHAHA

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 10, 2017 • 3:40:38am

re: #181 Dave In Austin

Ya think??

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Super Cuck: hahahahahaha

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wheat-dogg  Mar 10, 2017 • 3:41:08am

re: #181 Dave In Austin

The Daily Fail at work again.

Incidentally, Malik runs a so-called charity that even people on the Right call a scam. Its address of record is a UPS Store in Alexandria, VA. Its purported purpose is to raise money for scholarships for Kenyan students, but allegedly the money goes to support Malik and his wives.

Sketchy as shit.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2017 • 3:42:26am

re: #181 Dave In Austin

Ya think??

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I wonder how much Malik sold his ID to Chuck & Joel Gilbert for? Couldn’t have been much. I just feel sad for him, dude got super frustrated that his brother didn’t use the Presidency to steer tons of money his way and as revenge allowed himself to get used by the greasiest pieces of shit imaginable.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 10, 2017 • 3:58:41am

re: #151 goddamnedfrank

Conservatives have a plan for treatment, private prisons.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:01:38am
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Anymouse  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:10:16am

re: #173 Shiplord Kirel

Godammit! This is the kind of foul shit that makes you want to amend the Constitution to allow crucifixion or drawing and quartering.

Four suspects face more charges in starvation death of 9-year-old Indiana boy after meth was found in his system

Kid weighed 15 pounds when cops found him.

Betcha they’d all say they are pro-life as well.

It’s people like these that really try my convictions (pun intended) against the death penalty.

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Anymouse  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:13:56am

re: #179 wheat-dogg

What I don’t get is why bring up this birth certificate shit *again*, with a copy of the bc that’s already been used and debunked repeatedly, with Obama two months out of office? These people — and I believe Charles is correct in saying Chuckie J is running the Malik Obama Twitter account — are just obsessed with Obama. Like he lives in their heads as some sort of supernatural entity.

(rest cut)

Always new people to grift.

A certain number of people will be convinced that the debunking is true, and abandon such nonsense. However, there may be new people out there that never heard the “claim” before that are potential marks.

See also 9/11 and Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories (along with a Nigerian prince with a million dollars that wants to share it with you) that won’t die. Always new marks - why think up a whole new grift when an old one works just as well.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:14:57am

Relevant to the post downstairs: Adam Khan says Manafort picked Pence for a reason.

I wasn’t able to join the Pence as president debate, because it happened while I was sleeping then teaching. So here’s my two cents a bit late.

Choosing between Trump or Pence is like deciding which is better: being eaten by a lion or by a tiger. Trump is a loose cannon, who has basically handed off the day-to-day operations of the WH to Bannon, Miller and the other appointees. His only apparent input to date have been early morning tweets and photo ops when he signs an EO or meets people in the Oval Office. If he does anything behind the scenes besides fuss and fume, I’d be surprised. The danger with Trump is the possibility of a serious international incident, started by him or unwittingly encouraged by him. Meanwhile, he will willingly sign whatever BS lands in front of him, because (a) he probably blind as a bat (b) he doesn’t read too good and (c) he doesn’t fucking care what he signs, as long as it’s photographed. So, Bannon can slip him EO after EO and Congress can send him RWNJ bill after bill, and he’ll sign them into law, because he thinks that’s all a president has to do.

Pence, OTOH, is a career politician. He knows what the presidency can do, and how politics works, and he would be more dangerous on the homefront given his Xianist tendencies and general stupidity. If he was selected for the express purpose of succeeding Trump, as Khan suggests, then the Trump team figures Pence will be a team player and continue the same destruction of the federal government already in progress. There is a slim chance that, freed of Trump’s management, Pence might grow a spine and kick Bannon, Miller, Conway and Spicer to the curb. He might prefer to have smoothly functioning WH instead of a roomful of rabid monkeys, which means Pence could really enact his agenda, whatever that might be.

Either way, we’re fucked.

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Anymouse  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:23:17am

re: #190 wheat-dogg

We’re not necessarily fucked (as you colourfully put it).

Pence has his own E-mail problems back home in Indiana (real ones, not the made-up crap about Hillary Clinton).

Before Nixon was taken down (partly by his own party, even if it was only to save their party and not for the good of the country), Agnew got taken down first by the Maryland AG.

As evidence piles up against Pence in Indiana, we might see the same thing happen.

Aside from his E-mail problems, there is also the Russia problem: The Nixonian question comes to mind naturally to anyone with access to the news about Russia/Trump/Page/Manafort/&c — what did Pence know and when did he know it?

Even if Pence survived, I’m betting so much political capital would be expended trying to save him that he would be politically hobbled.

That said, I ain’t stupid, so I wouldn’t turn my back on him or trust him any further than I could throw a car.

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while(1) worries++;  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:27:20am

re: #179 wheat-dogg

What I don’t get is why bring up this birth certificate shit *again*, with a copy of the bc that’s already been used and debunked repeatedly, with Obama two months out of office? These people — and I believe Charles is correct in saying Chuckie J is running the Malik Obama Twitter account — are just obsessed with Obama. Like he lives in their heads as some sort of supernatural entity.

Rage Furby (or whoever @obamamalik really is) could be just trolling everyone for the lulz. Or it could be an effort to discredit Obama yet again, since Trump is convinced BHO tried to sabotage his campaign somehow and is trying to sabotage his administration. Ever since Ted Cruz turned out to be an also-ran, Rage Furby jumped onto the Trump train in hero-worship mode, so he could be trying to curry favor with The Donald.

Or I’m overthinking all this, and the person running the account is a total idiot.

/tin foil hat on

It could also be used to justify rolling back everything Obama achieved.

/tin foil hat off

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Anymouse  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:29:39am

re: #192 while(1) worries++;

/tin foil hat on

It could also be used to justify rolling back everything Obama achieved.

/tin foil hat off

They don’t need that for black President Blacken-blackenstein, sekrit Muslim atheist (how does that work) socialist anti-Christ destroyer of all good and pure.

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Anymouse  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:31:20am

7:30 AM in Eastern Time Zone, and Mr. Trump isn’t on Twitter yet. Did someone take his cell phone?

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Anymouse  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:35:22am
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:39:39am

re: #195 Anymouse

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He has to. He’s been calling it a “disaster” since it was signed into law. It CANNOT be allowed to succeed (or even be seen in anyway to have succeeded).

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Anymouse  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:43:39am

Another wingnut lie that won’t die.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:44:47am

I was listening to NPR’s Rachel Martin return to a group of GOP retirees in Charlotte, NC that she had visited one year ago. She wanted to follow up. Consensus? ‘Trump has done what he said he’d do’; ‘more in 40 days than other presidents in my lifetime’; ‘I don’t care about the Russians’; immigration? ‘I suppose there are a few good Muslims, but Sharia…’; ‘frankly, I find his tweets refreshing—I like his shoot-from-the-hip-style.’

I don’t know if they discussed the potential rise in healthcare costs because I finally shut off my radio. 61 million people don’t care, don’t want to know.

Have a great weekend!

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Anymouse  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:51:01am

re: #198 Barefoot Grin

I was listening to NPR’s Rachel Martin return to a group of GOP retirees in Charlotte, NC that she had visited one year ago. She wanted to follow up. Consensus? ‘Trump has done what he said he’d do’; ‘more in 40 days than other presidents in my lifetime’; ‘I don’t care about the Russians’; immigration? ‘I suppose there are a few good Muslims, but Sharia…’; ‘frankly, I find his tweets refreshing—I like his shoot-from-the-hip-style.’

I don’t know if they discussed the potential rise in healthcare costs because I finally shut off my radio. 61 million people don’t care, don’t want to know.

Have a great weekend!

And in reality: Trump has accomplished almost nothing. “I don’t care about the Russians” because I don’t give a damn about my own country. “Muslims, but Sharia bad,” Christian Sharia just fine. “Tweets refreshing” I suppose if you want to start a trade war or a shooting war - betcha she doesn’t care about how many of our military (or other nation’s military or civilians) as long as she can wave a flag and tell veterans “thank you for your service.”

On the last, I have shifted from my usual response when someone tells me that - Thank you for allowing me to serve - to a new answer: Please tell your congressman not to make any more Gold Star Families - that would honour “my service” much better.

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Anymouse  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:53:56am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:56:43am

re: #184 wheat-dogg

The Daily Fail at work again.

Incidentally, Malik runs a so-called charity that even people on the Right call a scam. Its address of record is a UPS Store in Alexandria, VA. Its purported purpose is to raise money for scholarships for Kenyan students, but allegedly the money goes to support Malik and his wives.

Sketchy as shit.

What’s the name of this charity? Has he ever filed a 990 Form with the IRS? If he’s soliciting for donations in Virginia, he’s supposed to get a permit from the state too.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2017 • 4:57:35am

Nebulous personal thought of the day: Always assume the worst about people, that way you’re never disappointed.

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Anymouse  Mar 10, 2017 • 5:00:39am

re: #201 Timothy Watson

What’s the name of this charity? Has he ever filed a 990 Form with the IRS? If he’s soliciting for donations in Virginia, he’s supposed to get a permit from the state too.

His charity:
barackhobamafoundation.org

Charity Navigator:
charitynavigator.org

It is based in Alexandria, Virginia.

Why isn’t this organization rated?

This organization is not eligible to be rated by Charity Navigator because it is not required to file the full IRS Form 990. It is required to file a form 990-N. This form provides some information, but it lacks the level of data we require to issue a rating. Visit the Methodology section of our site to learn about our criteria for evaluating charities.

What does it mean that this organization isn’t rated?

It simply means that the organization doesn’t meet our criteria. A lack of a rating does not indicate a positive or negative assessment by Charity Navigator.

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Anymouse  Mar 10, 2017 • 5:02:00am

Sun’s coming up: Time for bed. Catch y’all later… .

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Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2017 • 5:06:18am

re: #203 Anymouse

His charity:
barackhobamafoundation.org

Charity Navigator:
charitynavigator.org

It is based in Alexandria, Virginia.

Thanks, if someone wants to go to the trouble of filing a complaint with the Virginia Department of Agricultural and Consumer Services for having a bogus address:
cos.va-vdacs.com

(The address provided is the UPS store.)

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wheat-dogg  Mar 10, 2017 • 5:11:32am

re: #205 Timothy Watson

Thanks, if someone wants to go to the trouble of filing a complaint with the Virginia Department of Agricultural and Consumer Services for having a bogus address:
cos.va-vdacs.com

(The address provided is the UPS store.)

The foundation is supposedly chartered in Kenya. I don’t know how the tax laws work in such a case, but he did file a 990-n in 2015. There were precious few details contained therein, like revenues and expenses.

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jeffreyw  Mar 10, 2017 • 5:28:21am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Amory Blaine  Mar 10, 2017 • 5:38:54am

David Brooks is blaming Obama for Trumps win.

The Republican Health Care Crackup

…First, the crisis of opportunity. People with fewer skills were seeing their wages stagnate, the labor markets evaporate. Second, the crisis of solidarity. The social fabric, especially for those without a college degree, was disintegrating — marriage rates plummeting, opiate abuse rates rising. Third, the crisis of authority. Distrust in major institutions crossed some sort of threshold. People had so lost trust in government, the media, the leadership class in general, that they were willing to abandon truth and decorum and embrace authoritarian thuggery to blow it all up.

If President Obama had made these crises the center of his administration, instead of the A.C.A., Democrats wouldn’t have lost Congress and the White House. If the Tea Party had understood the first two of these crises, there would have been no opening for Donald Trump.

Trump came along and exploited these crises. But if his administration’s health care approach teaches us anything, it is that he has no positive agenda for addressing them. He can tap into working class anxiety negatively, by harnessing hostility toward immigrants, foreigners and the poor. But he can’t come up with a positive agenda to make working class life more secure.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 10, 2017 • 5:40:34am

re: #208 Amory Blaine

Brooks can take a long walk off a short pier.

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b.d.  Mar 10, 2017 • 5:43:51am

*THE GOP IS IN DEEP, DEEP TROUBLE, WHAT SHOULD WE DO?!!?

-How about attacking Obama about being born in Kenya?

*GENIUS!!

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darthstar  Mar 10, 2017 • 5:52:31am

re: #11 gocart mozart

Colbert wins the internet.

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This could be Ryan’s last chance to find the g spot.

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darthstar  Mar 10, 2017 • 5:54:18am

OMG, Obama’s foreign born? We should impeach. Wait…he’s already gone. We should make him president again, bring back his full cabinet, state department, etc…then let Congress launch a full investigation of him over the next four years. I think most Americans would welcome that. Especially the bring him back part.

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darthstar  Mar 10, 2017 • 5:56:04am

re: #157 Anymouse

“having an affair with” - that’s an odd way of saying ‘drugging and raping his cousin’

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 10, 2017 • 5:56:29am

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b.d.  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:00:08am

re: #212 darthstar

OMG, Obama’s foreign born? We should impeach. Wait…he’s already gone. We should make him president again, bring back his full cabinet, state department, etc…then let Congress launch a full investigation of him over the next four years. I think most Americans would welcome that. Especially the bring him back part.

Rather a Kenyan than a Russian is what grandpa always said……I think….

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S'latch  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:01:56am

Malik Obama sure has a lot of white supremacist memes.

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darthstar  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:02:16am

Dear anonymous,

gwb43 dot com

Thanks.

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b.d.  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:03:38am

re: #216 S’latch

Malik Obama sure has a lot of white supremacist memes. Surprising coming from an African-American.

FIFY

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:06:17am

Greets and saluts from the snowy NYC metro area where we’re actually battening down the hatches for the below normal temps for the upcoming week and a potential Nor’easter on Tuesday that early indication suggests a significant snowfall. Super.

Also super: all the assholes who decided that they’d cast their first vote for Trump, not realizing that Obamacare is the same fucking thing as the ACA. Or that the GOP would turn around and gut Medicaid and the safety net the first chance they got. Or that the GOP would seek to gut FEMA, USCG, EPA, and FDA the first chance they got.

Everywhere you’re turning the GOP agenda is ringing loud and clear. Even if Trump has no clue what he’s doing, the people he’s turning these agencies over to are dangerous and intend to do as much damage as possible in as short a time as possible.

How to resist? Start by getting out and voting. And yet we have evidence that people still don’t get it. Turnout was astonishingly low in Los Angeles earlier this week.

The GOP will have no problem retaining Congress if voter apathy strikes again next year. And if they do that, then Trump’s chances of getting impeached for his countless violations of his oath of office, starting with the Emoluments clause, diminish to nothing since the GOP doesn’t care so long as their cherished goal of gutting the safety net so that the rich can keep all of their income tax free.

The #GOPDontCare tax cuts are only the first step of Ryan’s tax plan to give the rich all the tax cuts they could ever wish for, all while the burdens fall even harder on those who can’t afford them.

That’s the fucking plan. They’ve telegraphed it. And GOP voters don’t care, because they somehow think that these tax cuts help them. Ignorant? Delusional? Fact-free? Complicit? Take your pick.

Democrats have to get their house in order, but they too are plagued by infighting, and while the DNC is now set at the top, it remains to be seen if they can get an all districts matter all votes matter effort going in short order.

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b.d.  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:07:01am

THE JOB NUMBERS ARE FAKE AS HELL AND MADE UP!!!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:07:46am

re: #216 S’latch

Malik Obama sure has a lot of white supremacist memes.

We need to report it as impersonating someone, and see what happens.

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:07:54am
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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:10:58am

No doubt Trump will claim credit for the ongoing growth, even though he’s yet to identify or establish any economic policies of his own.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:12:06am

re: #208 Amory Blaine

David Brooks is blaming Obama for Trumps win.

The Republican Health Care Crackup

But would you see Trump at an Applebee’s salad bar?

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:13:46am

This is a yet another scary-ass bill that’s working it’s way through the GOP controlled Congress. They would give companies the power to demand genetic testing and to see the results. It’s a direct assault on privacy rights and is currently prohibited under federal law. The GOP would undo those protections. So who benefits?

Everyone but the workers.

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darthstar  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:13:47am

Your morning awesome…wait until mom enters the room…horrified.

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darthstar  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:14:47am
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freetoken  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:18:51am

re: #225 lawhawk

It’s gotten quite a bit of attention from a variety of sources. One link passing around quite a bit on facebook this morning:

blogs.plos.org

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wheat-dogg  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:19:36am

re: #227 darthstar

Perhaps if they show the body movies of living people it will revert to the living phase.

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:22:46am

USA Today falls in line… as though 72 months of job growth, or 4 years of consecutive job growth are not even there. Trump effect y’all.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:24:11am

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

On this morning local news, a man who is allegedly a mentally unstable homeless meth addict went after a bunch of kids and parents on a public playing field. With a bat. Shot dead by police on the spot. As we may endure a rise in violence, here it is. More homeless, less help. More dangerous drug addicts, medical assistance and the law able to do less to help.

SMH

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darthstar  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:24:30am
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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:24:37am

re: #226 darthstar

Come for the serious policy discussion. Stay for the Risky Business slide to corral the kids.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:37:13am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:40:54am

re: #234 Unshaken Defiance

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Not to beat a dead horse, but how are we supposed to reach these people?

They claim they voted for Trump because they were sick of politicians breaking their promises, but then they are shocked, shocked, that Trump is doing everything he promised?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:41:31am

re: #232 darthstar

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“Letter from Cummings? Round-file it….”

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freetoken  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:41:40am

re: #234 Unshaken Defiance

I’ve toyed with writing a manifesto, a polemic against the current outcropping of hateful ignorance. Maybe titled Decent People Don’t Spread Hate , or something like that.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:44:16am

I was unhappy with one NPR report this morning (not necessarily with NPR), but there was a pretty thorough report on how Neil Gorsuch’s mom trashed the EPA under Reagan that very clearly implied “you thought that was bad; with Pruitt you ain’t seen nothing yet.”

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Arkansawyer  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:48:44am

re: #234 Unshaken Defiance

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Reasons to Vote Republican would be a short book. It’d be one page, and the only thing written in it would be “Fuck you. I got mine. Also, Jesus.”

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:48:57am
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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:55:12am

re: #238 Barefoot Grin

So, if you’ve got a flood insurance policy, GOP floating idea of a surcharge on those policy holders so that they can pay for the fucking Mexico wall. Yeah, you read that right.

Instead of using a surcharge to help make sure that the flood insurance program is solvent, or using the surcharge to help mitigate flood insurance risk by buying up threatened properties or building mitigation or prevention structure, they want to dump all this money on the Trump wall boondoggle.

Consider that if the city of Hoboken, which is about a square mile in size, had a seawall and other flood mitigation/prevention systems in place before Sandy, it could have prevented more than a billion dollars worth of damage to the city alone (including lost revenues due to transit disruptions) - and hundreds of millions more in damage to the PATH system. Same with other seaside communities.

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Momkat56  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:56:03am

re: #198 Barefoot Grin

I was listening to NPR’s Rachel Martin return to a group of GOP retirees in Charlotte, NC that she had visited one year ago. She wanted to follow up. Consensus? ‘Trump has done what he said he’d do’; ‘more in 40 days than other presidents in my lifetime’; ‘I don’t care about the Russians’; immigration? ‘I suppose there are a few good Muslims, but Sharia…’; ‘frankly, I find his tweets refreshing—I like his shoot-from-the-hip-style.’

I don’t know if they discussed the potential rise in healthcare costs because I finally shut off my radio. 61 million people don’t care, don’t want to know.

Have a great weekend!

I got the feeling it was one of those “let’s try to understand how these Trump voters feel” stories. The whole group was happy with their strongman, though some did acknowledge that he is a blowhard

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HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2017 • 6:59:26am

re: #238 Barefoot Grin

I was unhappy with one NPR report this morning (not necessarily with NPR), but there was a pretty thorough report on how Neil Gorsuch’s mom trashed the EPA under Reagan that very clearly implied “you thought that was bad; with Pruitt you ain’t seen nothing yet.”

One of my cousins works for the EPA. When Gorsuch got nominated by Trump for SCOTUS, she talked about how her older coworkers still cringe hearing Gorsuch’s name.

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:09:45am

GOP dumbfuckery:

Yeah, I had to read that again. These GOP fuckers don’t even know how cancer care is done. If you think cancer can be treated in an ER you have to have had been born with rectal cranial inversion.

Hospitals simply can’t treat cancer in an ER. Oncology wings are specialized care areas that have not only surgery wards, but specialized and very expensive equipment, including cyberknife/x-ray equipment to blast cancer areas, linear accelerators to generate particles for cancer treatments, specialized in-patient areas for treatment and care, infusion centers, etc. That’s one of the reasons that not every hospital has a specific oncology program.

So no, you can’t just go to the ER to deal with your breast cancer. Or prostate cancer. That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works.

Combine that with HHS honco Price’s stunning dumbassery of his own:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:11:31am

re: #244 lawhawk

GOP dumbfuckery:

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Jesus. They really are that fucking dumb.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:13:27am
The tragic story of the intersex person who puzzled 19th-century France…
She was found dead at age 30, having asphyxiated herself over the fumes of a charcoal stove, the victim of a social construct that saw no room for her.

timeline.com

This is the future Conservatives want.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:13:59am

re: #244 lawhawk

You would think they might have seen an episode of ER or two at least and know that an emergency room doesn’t treat cancer.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:16:01am

re: #246 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

timeline.com

This is the future Conservatives want.

They want to ostracize anyone who doesn’t fit their mold.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:16:22am

re: #247 Timothy Watson

You would think they might have seen an episode of ER or two at least and know that an emergency room doesn’t treat cancer.

No kidding.

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Franklin  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:18:28am

re: #246 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

timeline.com

This is the future Conservatives want.

This is the past they long for.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:20:06am

re: #250 Franklin

This is the past they long for.

Absolutely. I mean the fucking VP used taxpayer money when he was governor of Indiana on sexual reparative therapy. The Republican Party really does have a problem if you don’t fit their narrow mold on what it means to be a man/woman or American.

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:24:10am

re: #247 Timothy Watson

Or Grey’s Anatomy. Or even Emergency! Heck, any show that portrays a hospital identifies how care in the ER works. They’re designed to stabilize and treat trauma to a certain point, get people triaged for services elsewhere in the hospital, and to identify potential communicable disease outbreaks, among other things.

ERs do not provide oncology care. Period. Someone with cancer might get treated in an ER for issues relating to cancer - like falls, broken bones from mets (bone cancer), etc., but you’re not going to get cancer infusions or radiation treatment in the ER.

That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this fucking works.

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:27:25am

re: #247 Timothy Watson

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Franklin  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:30:15am

OK, saw Get Out last night. Wow what a great movie! Can’t wait to watch it again. Jordan Peele did an incredible job with this. And Daniel Kaluuya is such a great actor.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:31:51am

Haven’t they had anyone in their own lives that had cancer?

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Teukka  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:35:09am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Haven’t they had anyone in their own lives that had cancer?

Most likely. “But it was a punishment from GZod for their sinful ways!!! 11ty!!1”

*looks in mirror*

Am I too cynical?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:36:59am

re: #256 Teukka

Most likely. “But it was a punishment from GZod for their sinful ways!!! 11ty!!1”

*looks in mirror*

Am I too cynical?

Well yeah but even if they do believe that Calvinist bullshit, you’d think they know that you don’t go to the ER when you have cancer.

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:38:01am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

The last place that someone with cancer wants to be is the ER.
1) That means that whatever cancer they’ve got is so bad that it’s causing serious issues (like falls, secondary health issues like breathing/heart issues, etc., that suggest mets or organ failure, etc); and
2) ERs do not provide cancer treatments. Period. It’s a holding place until a room upstairs opens up where they can provide those treatments.

There is no 3.

Believe me, I’ve seen this up close and personal too many times to count.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:38:51am

re: #258 lawhawk

The last place that someone with cancer wants to be is the ER.
1) That means that whatever cancer they’ve got is so bad that it’s causing serious issues (like falls, secondary health issues like breathing/heart issues, etc., that suggest mets or organ failure, etc); and
2) ERs do not provide cancer treatments. Period. It’s a holding place until a room upstairs opens up where they can provide those treatments.

There is no 3.

Believe me, I’ve seen this up close and personal too many times to count.

One time is too many.

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Teukka  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:39:02am

re: #257 HappyWarrior

Well yeah but even if they do believe that Calvinist bullshit, you’d think they know that you don’t go to the ER when you have cancer.

“What’s the use going to Oncology when GZod is punishing you? Duhhhh!

*ducks*

*haves more coffee and decides to take a walk to get rid of some of the cynicism*

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:40:36am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Amen.

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:40:37am
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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:41:48am

re: #260 Teukka

Cthulhu (Ktulu), not Zod.

Metallica: The Call of Ktulu (Live) [S&M]

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HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:42:28am

re: #261 lawhawk

Amen.

My godmother had Leukemia. So heartbreaking. She developed it just after she retired from teaching. She’s part of why I will always defend teachers. This woman. No kids of her own was always there for her nieces, nephews, and grand nieces and nephews. It’s been nearly 16 years.

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:44:41am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:45:34am

re: #265 jaunte

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They have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:45:51am

re: #173 Shiplord Kirel

Godammit! This is the kind of foul shit that makes you want to amend the Constitution to allow crucifixion or drawing and quartering.

Four suspects face more charges in starvation death of 9-year-old Indiana boy after meth was found in his system

Kid weighed 15 pounds when cops found him.

The suspects:

ah yes, the Master Race…

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Jezeri  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:47:00am

This is the fake BC created by Lucas Smith back in September 2009. Orly Taitz used it in one of her many lawsuits (Barnett v Obama). The Fogbow/Politijab tore it apart within hours of it surfacing. Sadly, a change in software rendered that thread almost unreadable, but Doc Conspiracy has a very nice write-up on it here. obamaconspiracy.org

So, yeah, this one has been floating around for a long time. There are so many things wrong with it, I don’t even know where to begin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:48:32am

re: #191 Anymouse

We’re not necessarily fucked (as you colourfully put it).

Pence has his own E-mail problems back home in Indiana (real ones, not the made-up crap about Hillary Clinton).

Before Nixon was taken down (partly by his own party, even if it was only to save their party and not for the good of the country), Agnew got taken down first by the Maryland AG.

As evidence piles up against Pence in Indiana, we might see the same thing happen.

Aside from his E-mail problems, there is also the Russia problem: The Nixonian question comes to mind naturally to anyone with access to the news about Russia/Trump/Page/Manafort/&c — what did Pence know and when did he know it?

Even if Pence survived, I’m betting so much political capital would be expended trying to save him that he would be politically hobbled.

That said, I ain’t stupid, so I wouldn’t turn my back on him or trust him any further than I could throw a car.

If we want to drag out this Nixon parallel, then the DT tax returns are the equivalent of the White House tapes…

If DT is smart, he will do what Bush did with the documents about his no-show stint with the Air National Guard, namely to “leak” some forged but authentic-looking documents which they can later discredit and send the whole discussion off into a pointless tailspin that will take years/decades to sort out…

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MsJ  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:52:05am

re: #225 lawhawk

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This is a yet another scary-ass bill that’s working it’s way through the GOP controlled Congress. They would give companies the power to demand genetic testing and to see the results. It’s a direct assault on privacy rights and is currently prohibited under federal law. The GOP would undo those protections. So who benefits?

Everyone but the workers.

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makeitstop  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:52:49am

re: #268 Jezeri

This is the fake BC created by Lucas Smith back in September 2009. Orly Taitz used it in one of her many lawsuits (Barnett v Obama). The Fogbow/Politijab tore it apart within hours of it surfacing. Sadly, a change in software rendered that thread almost unreadable, but Doc Conspiracy has a very nice write-up on it here. obamaconspiracy.org

So, yeah, this one has been floating around for a long time. There are so many things wrong with it, I don’t even know where to begin.

Welcome, Hatchling! Did you bring donuts?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2017 • 7:58:21am

re: #271 makeitstop

Welcome, Hatchling! Did you bring donuts?

And good coffee.

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ObserverArt  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:02:01am

re: #262 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I was just thinking as I was reading the over night comments how much crazy crap is coming so fast it is hard to take it all in and process just how bad it is. I was asking myself how do you keep going instead of getting worn down by the onslaught.

Breathe. Take a moment every so often to think of something else, maybe something pleasant and then go back to thinking how you go about dealing with the depressing news.

Good advice. Hard to do, but it is good advice.

And I do believe this is a large part of the Bannon plan…the blitzkrieg. Throw so much change, cutting staffs and cutting programs so fast there is no way to keep up on it all. There are not enough groups, committees, organizations, lobby groups to keep up with it as it all is burnt down.

Okay…time to breathe…again.

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:02:26am

re: #272 Dr. Matt

Preferably with Kahlua or vodka.

Or skip the coffee and just bring the vodka. :) It’s 5pm somewhere.

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Teukka  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:02:38am

re: #263 lawhawk

Cthulhu (Ktulu), not Zod.

[Embedded content]

Actually, I have from verified sources that even Cthulhu thinks #TrumpCare is OTT. Semi-///

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:06:03am
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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:07:05am

re: #273 ObserverArt

I definitely think the super speedy onslaught of so much damage is a feature of this, but tearing down is also the only thing they are good at. The other stuff - building up, governing, creating, objective analysis, collaborative action - is hard. These people are mediocre frauds and they know it.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:08:11am

re: #275 Teukka

Actually, I have from verified sources that even Cthulhu thinks #TrumpCare is OTT. Semi-///

Arguably, Cthulhu would approve of TrumpCare, as it means the “stars are right” to herald His return. Let’s go to the source:

Then, whispered Castro, those first men formed the cult around small idols which the Great Ones shewed them; idols brought in dim aeras from dark stars. That cult would never die till the stars came right again, and the secret priests would take great Cthulhu from His tomb to revive His subjects and resume His rule of earth. The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom. Meanwhile the cult, by appropriate rites, must keep alive the memory of those ancient ways and shadow forth the prophecy of their return.

-H.P. Lovecraft, “The Call of Cthulhu”.

Plot twist……the GOP is the Cthulhu cult!

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Teukka  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:09:13am

re: #278 Dr Lizardo

Arguably, Cthulhu would approve of TrumpCare, as it means the “stars are right” to herald His return. Let’s go to source:

-H.P. Lovecraft, “The Call of Cthulhu”.

Plot twist……the GOP is the Cthulhu cult!

*GULP*

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ObserverArt  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:12:38am

re: #268 Jezeri

Hi new LGF member.

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Teukka  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:14:25am

re: #268 Jezeri

This is the fake BC created by Lucas Smith back in September 2009. Orly Taitz used it in one of her many lawsuits (Barnett v Obama). The Fogbow/Politijab tore it apart within hours of it surfacing. Sadly, a change in software rendered that thread almost unreadable, but Doc Conspiracy has a very nice write-up on it here. obamaconspiracy.org

So, yeah, this one has been floating around for a long time. There are so many things wrong with it, I don’t even know where to begin.

Welcome, hatchling :)

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(alpuz)  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:23:54am

ohhhhhh. So perfect.

MSNBC 03 10 2017 09 40 02

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HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:28:58am

re: #282 (alpuz)

ohhhhhh. So perfect.

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Video

Republicans like to accuse Democrats and liberals of being out of touch but this guy is out of touch with basic reality.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:32:05am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Republicans like to accuse Democrats and liberals of being out of touch but this guy is out of touch with basic reality.

That’s the reason Republicans think rational people are out of touch. When you’re in a cult, it seems like everyone else has a problem, because you’re viewing the world through a cracked lens.

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freetoken  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:33:41am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Shimkus is a known creationist. We’ve posted about him before, here, some time ago.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:34:25am
An accomplished, international human rights lawyer delivered a potent call for action at the United Nations on Thursday, urging the organization to back an investigation into crimes committed by the Islamic State in Iraq.

“I am speaking to you, the Iraqi government, and to you, U.N. member states, when I ask: Why? Why has nothing been done?” Amal Clooney, the British-Lebanese barrister who represents victims of Islamic State rapes and kidnappings, said.

She implored Iraq and the world’s nations, using another name for the Islamic State: “Don’t let ISIS get away with genocide.”

It was a day after International Women’s Day, and a renowned female lawyer was giving a powerful speech addressing one of the world’s most pressing humanitarian threats.

But a number of headlines seemed to focus elsewhere: her baby bump. And her daffodil-yellow dress and matching coat. Oh, and in case anyone forgot, she’s married to Hollywood movie star George Clooney.

washingtonpost.com

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thecommodore  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:34:26am
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thecommodore  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:35:50am

YouTube

Note that in this video, Lumpy actually calls some of these people he wants Trump to purge “leftists.”

Leftists.

In the CIA.

Think about that.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:36:00am

I’m willing to bet if the murder victim was Black a thug, Curtis Reeves would be at home right now.

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scottslemmons  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:37:00am

re: #278 Dr Lizardo

Arguably, Cthulhu would approve of TrumpCare, as it means the “stars are right” to herald His return. Let’s go to the source:

-H.P. Lovecraft, “The Call of Cthulhu”.

Plot twist……the GOP is the Cthulhu cult!

There’s an excellent old RPG from about 20 years back called “Delta Green,” which was basically a modern-day setting for “Call of Cthulhu” with a focus on government conspiracies and black-ops missions against the monsters of the Mythos — basically, “Call of Cthulhu” for the “X-Files” era.

I wish I still had the book here instead of filed away in storage, because there was a great section I can’t quite remember entirely that considered who benefited from distrust of government and the media, derided cooperation and empathy with others, and promoted nihilism and sociopathy as societal goals. Those are, after all, absolutely terrible things to promote, the exact opposite of a functioning society. Who, they wondered, who would benefit from mankind becoming “free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy.”

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Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:37:07am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Republicans like to accuse Democrats and liberals of being out of touch but this guy is out of touch with basic reality.

Wingnuts like to talk “economics”, but are the same people who don’t understand basic cost/benefit analysis.

They used to rant about drug needle exchanges, what’s cheaper? Spending a small sum for needle exchanges or treating people for preventable cases of HIV/AIDS and other diseases?

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:38:51am

Are people still working on treatments for malignant narcissism? I’m really growing more and more uncomfortable with it being essentially untreatable since so many of those afflicted can and do cause so much harm.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:41:00am

re: #290 scottslemmons

There’s an excellent old RPG from about 20 years back called “Delta Green,” which was basically a modern-day setting for “Call of Cthulhu” with a focus on government conspiracies and black-ops missions against the monsters of the Mythos — basically, “Call of Cthulhu” for the “X-Files” era.

I wish I still had the book here instead of filed away in storage, because there was a great section I can’t quite remember entirely that considered who benefited from distrust of government and the media, derided cooperation and empathy with others, and promoted nihilism and sociopathy as societal goals. Those are, after all, absolutely terrible things to promote, the exact opposite of a functioning society. Who, they wondered, who would benefit from mankind becoming “free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy.”

Sounds quite interesting; I’ve never heard of it until now.

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Teukka  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:43:17am

re: #292 JordanRules

Are people still working on treatments for malignant narcissism? I’m really growing more and more uncomfortable with it being essentially untreatable since so many of those afflicted can and do cause so much harm.

IIRC, the problem with treating Narcissism is that it is hard to motivate the sufferers to submit to treatment which is going to be rough. And it goes for plain vanilla garden variety narcissism as well as group narcissism alike. Of course, it does happen people submit to treatment for narcissism, but it is often forced by external factors, such as losing ones liberty, kids or significant amount of moolah if they don’t.
I don’t know so much about the success rate of the available therapies against Narcissism though.

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blueraven  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:48:20am

Today’s job numbers, 235K, are in line with Feb job numbers under Obama.
But OMG all over the cable news…TRUMP BUMP!!!

Shortly after the numbers came out, Trump shared a Drudge Report tweet claiming the 235,000 figure means America is already “great again.”

This comes despite the fact that the February number is nearly identical to the 238,000 created in February 2015 and 237,000 created last February, the final two years of Obama’s presidency..

cnbc.com

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Franklin  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:50:10am

So I’ve had a baby monitor setup to “spy” on my rescue pup at home. She was barking a lot during the day at the random outside noises. I setup a whitenoise machine in the room with her crate and now she just snores.

I might start using outside ambient noise for her to get her used to the new environment.

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EPR-radar  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:51:42am

re: #292 JordanRules

Are people still working on treatments for malignant narcissism? I’m really growing more and more uncomfortable with it being essentially untreatable since so many of those afflicted can and do cause so much harm.

High functioning malignant narcissists aren’t usually going to seek treatment, since their personality defects often get rewarded in our crazy system. Why give up a competitive advantage?

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scottslemmons  Mar 10, 2017 • 8:51:46am

re: #293 Dr Lizardo

Sounds quite interesting; I’ve never heard of it until now.

It was really pretty amazing. A bit more adult in scope than standard Call of Cthulhu games. You weren’t generally going up against Cthulhu and Azathoth — the monsters were relatively rare — they weren’t besieging NYC or anything like that. The cults weren’t inbred backwoods goons — they were leading successful, near-mainstream new-age movements. The Mi-Go were behind the Roswell crash, just so they could get the US government to ignore their schemes in exchange for fancy technology. The British intelligence agencies were largely corrupted by the mind-controlling Insects from Shaggai.

New York’s crime scene was dominated by sorcerers, with an avatar of Nyarlathotep running things from the most exclusive nightclub in the city. The remnants of the Nazis were immortals fucking around with Lovecraft’s maddest science.

They even had a giant section in one of the later books devoted to surreal horror, if you wanted to run games built around the King in Yellow.

They’ve been working on a relaunch in recent years, to update their timeline to cover the War on Terror and suchlike. I haven’t been able to check those out yet, though…

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freetoken  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:01:03am

re: #295 blueraven

Frame-shifting.

I.e., as humans we copy each other, usually unconciously. The problem for us is that Trump now has a super-platform from which to spew his delusions. Those who hear him will start to shift their own thinking, regardless of truth.

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freetoken  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:03:21am

The essence of why creationists keep generating more creationists is that their captive audiences (in pews) are continually hearing creationism.

This is central to the war between the secular educational view and the theocracy view, for how to conduct society.

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Interesting Times  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:08:22am

re: #299 freetoken

I.e., as humans we copy each other, usually unconciously. The problem for us is that Trump now has a super-platform from which to spew his delusions. Those who hear him will start to shift their own thinking, regardless of truth.

Yes, this is why repetition is such a powerful tool, and why repeating the lie you’re trying to debunk is behavior to avoid as much as possible. Like, if one word is all it takes to completely change the sentence meaning (“3 million votes were NOT cast illegally”), that’s a sign it needs reframing in a big way (think of how many times you might have accidentally omitted the word NOT from a sentence, or typo’d it as NOW - prevent that from happening in the first place by framing in a positive way, e.g. “99.999999% of votes cast were entirely legit - the real problem is voter suppression”)

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:11:36am

re: #277 JordanRules

I definitely think the super speedy onslaught of so much damage is a feature of this, but tearing down is also the only thing they are good at. The other stuff - building up, governing, creating, objective analysis, collaborative action - is hard. These people are mediocre frauds and they know it.

It’s not only hard, but if they succeed in tearing down, it can take years and a huge financial investment to rebuild and recover from the damage that was done in a few days or less. Lost institutional memory often cannot be restored. You have to start from scratch.

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freetoken  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:12:12am

re: #301 Interesting Times

Repetition is a fundamental process in human learning.

As far as countering the falsehoods - there is no real substitute for competence. Be competent in your subject, and continually confront the falsehoods with sound reasoning and information.

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Franklin  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:17:31am
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Skip Intro  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:25:56am

Companies want employees’ genetic info—new bill lets them take it by force

Under guise of “voluntary” wellness programs, employees’ genetics could be exposed.

The GOP hard at work.

arstechnica.com

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:35:46am

re: #302 Hecuba’s daughter

Uggh. So true and disheartening.

They get to just stuff their faces and eat everything in sight. Then we have to come in, go on a strict diet and work our asses off.

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:39:05am

This is actually the finding from a Senate report that found counterfeit parts made their way into the supply chain because companies source their parts from all over the world.

armed-services.senate.gov

The companies with whom the US DoD contracts with for these parts are always looking for maximizing their profits, and some of this may enable the counterfeit parts to enter the product supply chain.

So Trump actually found something factually accurate. Broken clock moment.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:42:06am

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freetoken  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:43:19am

re: #307 lawhawk

Counterfeit is not necessarily “fake” though.

The problem with buying any product is testing the delivered product to make sure it performs as specified.

An item may perform for what you initially tested, even if it did not use the exact part as specified.

The long term problem comes in often with reliability, or accuracy, or safety, etc.

But these things are far too complex for Trump.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:45:51am

re: #310 freetoken

Counterfeit is not necessarily “fake” though.

The problem with buying any product is testing the delivered product to make sure it performs as specified.

An item may perform for what you initially tested, even if it did not use the exact part as specified.

The long term problem comes in often with reliability, or accuracy, or safety, etc.

But these things are far too complex for Trump.

Also possibly a violation of the “Buy American” requirements of defense contracts too.

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freetoken  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:48:26am

re: #311 Timothy Watson

Yes, all sorts of possible things can go wrong in a project.

This is all pretty mundane, in one sense. It’s always been a problem in acquisition.

Trump just needed to bash a foregin entity today, so he punched out a tweet with that evil “China” in it.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:48:46am

re: #178 Varek Raith

That was funny as hell.

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:56:37am

If you liked the stylings of John Wick, you might find this right up your alley - with Charlize Theron in the title role (red band trailer is up and may be NSFW)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:56:59am
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ObserverArt  Mar 10, 2017 • 9:57:51am

re: #305 Skip Intro

Companies want employees’ genetic info—new bill lets them take it by force

The GOP hard at work.

arstechnica.com

I hereby propose that this bill should it be passed, the members of Congress that pass it are the first to undergo the genetic collection and then share it with all Americans.

Hey, if it so damn good, you’ll step up and allow the collection, right?

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lawhawk  Mar 10, 2017 • 10:00:49am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2017 • 10:00:58am

re: #316 ObserverArt

I hereby propose that this bill should it be passed, the members of Congress that pass it are the first to undergo the genetic collection and then share it with all Americans.

Hey, if it so damn good, you’ll step up and allow the collection, right?

And make all the Congresscritters and state house critters undergo drug testing if they want a government salary too.

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ericblair  Mar 10, 2017 • 10:23:22am

re: #307 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

This is actually the finding from a Senate report that found counterfeit parts made their way into the supply chain because companies source their parts from all over the world.

So Trump actually found something factually accurate. Broken clock moment.

The defense and intelligence community has been working on supply chain security for years. It’s a known problem, and there are mitigations. Unless you want to insource every possible chip for everything including laptops and Ethernet switches you are going to have to balance risk versus cost and technical feasibility. Nothing new here.

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Jezeri  Mar 10, 2017 • 10:49:02am

re: #272 Dr. Matt

And good coffee.

Only the bestest coffee and donuts. They are bigly the best. Very much so.

*long time reader, first time commenting….*

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 10, 2017 • 11:25:14am

re: #208 Amory Blaine

I hereby invite Brooks to go fuck himself.

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gocart mozart  Mar 10, 2017 • 12:10:36pm

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