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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:46:11pm

I killed another thread,

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:48:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:49:30pm

Bigot and the Beast.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:50:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:50:46pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:51:21pm
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plansbandc  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:52:08pm

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

I kill all threads. It’s an unwanted skill.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:52:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:52:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:53:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:55:00pm

re: #8 JordanRules

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In short, she’s an idiot.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:55:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:57:31pm
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Myron Falwell  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:57:37pm

AHAHAHAHAHA

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:58:45pm

re: #8 JordanRules

This is the exact same mentality of those who want to repeal Obamacare: they have no way of thinking of how they are affected. They’re just like little children, lacking enough self-awareness to even make decisions about themselves.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:58:48pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Right wing nut jobs have no business referring to ‘reality’. They clearly don’t believe in it.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:59:13pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

All day and twice on Sunday.

These folks keep thinking they are the exception and somehow belong to the in-group are gonna learn one way or another.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:59:42pm

More fire

Pelosi also had 🔥 for Devin Nunes after his surprise White House visit and press conference.

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(alpuz)  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:00:31pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

You set him off w/ that one.

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:01:45pm

re: #17 JordanRules

All day and twice on Sunday.

These folks keep thinking they are the exception and somehow belong to the in-group are gonna learn one way or another.

They think being Republican will keep them safe, when the only really group that matters to Republicans is millionaires.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:01:52pm

Works with this photo

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:01:54pm

CAT GYMNASTICS

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Charles Johnson  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:02:42pm

re: #19 (alpuz)

You set him off w/ that one.

I know, he’s really going now.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:03:01pm

re: #15 Belafon

This is the exact same mentality of those who want to repeal Obamacare: they have no way of thinking of how they are affected. They’re just like little children, lacking enough self-awareness to even make decisions about themselves.

Since I’m feeling unusually charitable at the moment, lets put the actions of swing voters that broke for Trump in the most favorable possible light.

Deeply stupid and fundamentally malicious people cast a ‘fuck you’ vote vs. Hillary Clinton and in favor of Trump because they willfully chose to believe Trump/Republican lies that catered to their stupidity and malice.

So yes, they aren’t all bigots.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:03:33pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

I know, he’s really going now.

Poor little snowflake.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:04:35pm

re: #20 Belafon

Yep and since they have those fantasies it’s another factor in their delusional world view.

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:04:40pm

Among “Latest from the Daily Wire:”
Trump Is 100% Vindicated On Wiretapping, and 7 Other Things You Should Know
mediabiasfactcheck.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:05:35pm

Answer: 10
Bonus points: men can get breast cancer, too.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:06:01pm

re: #27 jaunte

Among “Latest from the Daily Wire:”
Trump Is 100% Vindicated On Wiretapping, and 7 Other Things You Should Know
mediabiasfactcheck.com

100% vindicated? Did I miss a headline? I saw something about some jackass spilling the beans on potentially classified data and being unable to produce it for the Intelligence Committee…

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:06:16pm

re: #24 EPR-radar

They voted for a racist so at some point, as John Oliver stated, it doesn’t fucking matter. To my eyes, they’re all bigots, sorry.

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:07:29pm

re: #29 thedopefishlives

They’re going to torture ‘incidental intelligence gathering’ into ‘Obama bugged Trump’ by any means necessary.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:08:10pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:08:15pm

re: #31 jaunte

They’re going to torture ‘incidental intelligence gathering’ into ‘Obama bugged Trump’ by any means necessary.

I just find it amazing the lengths they’re willing to go to to support the talking yam, when it’s patently obvious that he will throw them under the bus at the first opportunity if it leads to enriching him and his cronies.

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:08:37pm

re: #8 JordanRules

re: #11 HappyWarrior

In short, she’s an idiot.

A perfect example of “it’ll never affect me!” in action

What a fucking moron…

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:08:42pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

CAT GYMNASTICS

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:08:58pm

re: #31 jaunte

They’re going to torture ‘incidental intelligence gathering’ into ‘Obama bugged Trump’ by any means necessary.

The simple assertion that Trump’s tweets are proven correct suffices in right wing alternate reality.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:09:30pm

re: #36 EPR-radar

The simple assertion that Trump’s tweets are proven correct suffices in right wing alternate reality.

Yeah, well, they were admitted as evidence in a court of law, so that happened.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:09:52pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:10:21pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’M GOING TO DOOO IT I’M GOING TO DOOO IT

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:11:01pm
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scottslemmons  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:11:17pm

re: #19 (alpuz)

You set him off w/ that one.

Foo, I already blocked him. What’s he doing?

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:11:22pm

re: #24 EPR-radar

Since I’m feeling unusually charitable at the moment, lets put the actions of swing voters that broke for Trump in the most favorable possible light.

Deeply stupid and fundamentally malicious people cast a ‘fuck you’ vote vs. Hillary Clinton and in favor of Trump because they willfully chose to believe Trump/Republican lies that catered to their stupidity and malice.

So yes, they aren’t all bigots.

But most of them are fucking stupid.

The ones that aren’t fucking stupid just played the ones that are to get what they want.

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:11:42pm

re: #40 Dr. Matt

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Sometimes you just goat to do it.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:11:57pm

re: #42 TedStriker

But most of them are fucking stupid.

I’ve believed that about American “swing” voters for probably 20 years now.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:12:02pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yo!!! LMAO
This guy is such an evil, incompetent and corrupt doofus! A complete imbecile.

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:12:38pm

I don’t think presidenting agrees with him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:12:55pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:13:33pm

re: #46 jaunte

Pretty much everyone who has passed through the doors of the White House has emerged with serious signs of aging. It’s not for the faint of heart or the ill of health. But let’s not forget, Drumpf is the healthiest president EVER.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:14:05pm

re: #44 thedopefishlives

I’ve believed that about American “swing” voters for probably 20 years now.

Like that Ken Bone idiot that was supposedly undecided between Clinton and Trump. Say what you will about the Nazis Right Wing Nut Jobs, at least they have an ethos.

How can someone be honestly undecided between civilization and barbarism?

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thedopefishlives  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:14:41pm

re: #49 EPR-radar

Like that Ken Bone idiot that was supposedly undecided between Clinton and Trump. Say what you will about the Nazis Right Wing Nut Jobs, at least its an ethos.

How can someone be honestly undecided between civilization and barbarism?

Perhaps because they’re too dim to understand that those are the choices. And so we return to the original premise.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:15:52pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

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That is. Not a pooping face, it is an orgasming face.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:16:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:16:29pm
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Jay C  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:16:34pm

re: #49 EPR-radar

How can someone be honestly undecided between civilization and barbarism?

Basically, by applying the Golden Rule: “What’s in it for them??

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Charles Johnson  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:16:57pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:17:32pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reminds me of something.

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(alpuz)  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:17:39pm

re: #41 scottslemmons

Foo, I already blocked him. What’s he doing?

Let’s see if understand how this works:

..and that was just one.

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:18:00pm

re: #44 thedopefishlives

I’ve believed that about American “swing” voters for probably 20 years now.

When I say they’re stupid, it’s by-and-large completely willful; they don’t care to learn new things or new ideas that contradict their set-in-stone POV and they fight like hell to be treated like mushrooms: in the dark and fed bullshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:18:24pm

re: #39 thedopefishlives

I’M GOING TO DOOO IT I’M GOING TO DOOO IT

SCHWING!!!!!

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:18:25pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

I mean, this guy is just dumb Charles. He thinks John Madden-ing that list was sooooo clever too.

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scottslemmons  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:19:04pm

re: #57 (alpuz)

Let’s see if understand how this works:

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..and that was just one.

Someone ask him if it’s true he poops on the floor.

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:19:15pm

A clichéd whiner in the Ben Shapiro mold.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:19:37pm

re: #51 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

That is. Not a pooping face, it is an orgasming face.

That truck may have given Trump the first hardon he’s had in this decade.

Once he get to play with the nukes, he’ll probably need medical treatment for priapism.

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(alpuz)  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:20:09pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Ya see what you get!?! Ya see what you get when you call me dim-witted! Leftist!

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:20:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:21:02pm

re: #46 jaunte

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I don’t think presidenting agrees with him.

He really thinks those ill-fitting oversized shoulderpads on his suits make him look good.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:21:31pm
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Joe Bacon  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:23:46pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

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I didn’t realize until now that Red Skelton’s Mean Widdle Kid is in the White House!

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:24:11pm

re: #62 jaunte

A clichéd whiner in the Ben Shapiro mold.

Back in the day, some right wing nut jobs (e.g., WF Buckley) at least pretended to be intelligent, even though their policy prescriptions were always the same stupid conservative shit that’s been with us since the village idiots whined about fire and the wheel.

But now they seem to be all in on the most blatant and willful stupidity imaginable. It’s like stupidity is a virtue for the US right.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:24:44pm

re: #48 thedopefishlives

Pretty much everyone who has passed through the doors of the White House has emerged with serious signs of aging. It’s not for the faint of heart or the ill of health. But let’s not forget, Drumpf is the healthiest president EVER.

That’s because they took the job seriously. Trump will probably come out of it looking younger.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:25:09pm

re: #65 jaunte

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So the GOP has cut the deficit “reduction” in half and increased the tax cuts to just below $1T, but the needle hasn’t budged at all on coverage loss.

So the GOP thinks the answer to “this bill isn’t popular enough” is “LARD IT UP MORE!”

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:26:53pm

re: #70 Skip Intro

That’s because they took the job seriously. Trump will probably come out of it looking younger.

That was my initial thought, but Trump is reacting obsessively to unfavorable news about himself. That may lead to the presidency aging him severely, even though he could not possibly care less about the normal duties of the office.

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:27:03pm

And this is the older chart before they bumped the tax cut to 999.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:27:20pm

re: #51 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

That is. Not a pooping face, it is an orgasming face.

Another false dichotomy!
///

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:27:25pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:28:36pm

Heh,

Just caught a bit of Chucky Todd and some guy on his panel named Carl Hulse from the NY Times just said he thought the GOP has never written any legislation they had to actually be responsible for…and frankly they are scared to death (of the ramifications).

Trump can just grab them by the pussy!

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:29:32pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:29:34pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:30:08pm

They didn’t have to change their handle to get with the program, nor the weather.

A little time lapse from today’s rain, snow, hail, and sleet!

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:30:49pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:31:09pm

re: #65 jaunte

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This score is woefully thin. How many people will buy garbage policies that spread costs to everyone else?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:35:47pm

lol

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:37:01pm

re: #14 Myron Falwell

AHAHAHAHAHA

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I bet ol’ Joey Walsh steps on rakes. He stepped on one there and “BAM” right in the forehead. It left a mark.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:38:52pm

Time and time again since the ACA first passed, people think they’re being so clever when they comment “Congress should be forced to use the same system they vote in!”

This is so stupid. You can get some pretty nice plans on the Exchanges, if you have the money, which they do, since they’re subsidized. And even if they weren’t, most of them are pretty well off. The ACA doesn’t force the well-to-do into shitty insurance plans, and the AHCA wouldn’t either.

No, the people most affected will always be the ones who just gained insurance, the ones for whom, even if they had insurance, the copay for something like a mammogram might be too much.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:39:37pm

re: #76 ObserverArt

Heh,

Just caught a bit of Chucky Todd and some guy on his panel named Carl Hulse from the NY Times just said he thought the GOP has never written any legislation they had to actually be responsible for…and frankly they are scared to death (of the ramifications).

Trump can just grab them by the pussy!

The GOP hasn’t found itself in the position of actually governing for over a decade. They lost the House in ‘06 and immediately stopped being about governing and became totally about opposition to everything the DNC puts forth. They never paid any political price for their opposition, actually profited from it instead, and now are left dealing with the reality that governing means doing things that are unpopular.

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nines09  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:40:35pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s his “I just ran over a family of 5 in van with a Hillary bumper sticker on the back” face. Maggot.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:40:45pm
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Bensoner  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:44:28pm

re: #24 EPR-radar

Trumpers are despicable. Some ppl who voted for him just have awful judgment. Some were conned. Remember, he’s a very talented con man. That’s his primary skill set.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:44:56pm

re: #82 Stanley Sea

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lol

Bigly
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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:45:49pm

One sign that the GOP doesn’t know how to govern anymore: They basically begged the DNC to bail them out of this mess, but have done nothing to budge them aside from effectively try to argue that it’ll be their fault when Obamacare “fails.” Every change to Trumpcare has been about trying to bring in more Republican votes, not a single move to entice Democrats to support the bill.

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:47:39pm

Since I posted this late in the last thread and it affects all of us, Imma post it ‘gain!

- - -

Moar depressing GOP news…

ARS Technica - Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers

I really really hate the Republicans.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:48:36pm

Yes, this is their new excuse.

Enjoying the fail & imagining how pissed Mr. I Love Trucks is right now.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:48:43pm

There was a scummy abortion nut with his stupid murder sign in front of a downtown PP I saw on my way to work. I gave him a single finger salute. Then I drove around the block and gave him another one.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:51:33pm

re: #93 Amory Blaine

Where’s that damn +10 upding button?

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Jack Burton  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:52:16pm

re: #93 Amory Blaine

Treat them like the treat “the left” by throwing their own shit back at them. If you see this between 9am and 5pm on a weekday yell “GET A JOB!” at them.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:52:29pm
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(alpuz)  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:52:32pm

re: #93 Amory Blaine

There was a scummy abortion nut with his stupid murder sign in front of a downtown PP I saw on my way to work. I gave him a single finger salute. Then I drove around the block and gave him another one.

We have to carpool sometime. I too salute the nasty bastards that way.

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:53:04pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

Yes, this is their new excuse.

And then we told them the delay was just so we wouldn’t have to vote in the middle of the night! pic.twitter.com

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) March 23, 2017

Enjoying the fail & imagining how pissed Mr. I Love Trucks is right now.

Funny, that’s never, ever stopped the GOP before…

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(alpuz)  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:53:43pm

re: #95 Jack Burton

Treat them like the treat “the left” by throwing their own shit back at them. If you see this between 9am and 5pm on a weekday yell “GET A JOB!” at them.

Shit, any day. I was told to get a job on a Saturday during the Walker protests.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:54:36pm

re: #57 (alpuz)

Let’s see if understand how this works:

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..and that was just one.

This guy might be dumber than Benny Shapiro.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:54:42pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

One sign that the GOP doesn’t know how to govern anymore: They basically begged the DNC to bail them out of this mess, but have done nothing to budge them aside from effectively try to argue that it’ll be their fault when Obamacare “fails.” Every change to Trumpcare has been about trying to bring in more Republican votes, not a single move to entice Democrats to support the bill.

Let’s hope this clusterfuck stiffens the spines of Senate Democrats when the time for the Gorsuch filibuster comes.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:55:34pm

re: #77 jaunte

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No, the Freedom Caucus is waiting for a bill that allows them to sell the sick for body parts.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:55:48pm

Canadian White trash…..

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Bubblehead II  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:56:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:56:36pm

come on, Bob…take a guess…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:57:02pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

No, the Freedom Caucus is waiting for a bill that allows them to sell the sick for body parts.

just not the fetus body parts.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:58:36pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

No, the Freedom Caucus is waiting for a bill that allows them to sell the sick for body parts.

Why shouldn’t you be able to sell one of your kidneys to pay for a mammogram?

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:58:46pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Answer: 10
Bonus points: men can get breast cancer, too.

But his family’s breasts are covered!

And we pay for it!

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:58:56pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

just not the fetus body parts.

The fetus is sacred because if you raise them right you can sell the parts for a hell of a lot more money.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:59:08pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

No, the Freedom Caucus is waiting for a bill that allows them to sell the sick for body parts.

End-stage feral capitalism will go there. There’s too much money in it. Republicans can ask the Chinese regime for advice on how to go about doing it.

However, they won’t be doing this to the old and sick. The young, healthy and powerless will be targeted via the prison industrial complex.

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:01:47pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:01:58pm

re: #88 Bensoner

Trumpers are despicable. Some ppl who voted for him just have awful judgment. Some were conned. Remember, he’s a very talented con man. That’s his primary ONLY skill set.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:02:25pm

re: #110 EPR-radar

A spiral of despair may be sending more working-class whites to an early grave

sanluisobispo.com

Well don’t go there before you give us a chance to sell off your body parts. And by all means, you just keep voting for Republicans because they really care about you.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:03:41pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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come on, Bob…take a guess…

The obvious answer was “It gave Trump cover for his wild-eyed rant,” the less obvious answer was “It clued the target of a federal investigation in on who among his inner circle was/is under surveillance.”

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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:04:08pm

re: #113 Skip Intro

A spiral of despair may be sending more working-class whites to an early grave

sanluisobispo.com

Well don’t go there before you give us a chance to sell off your body parts. And by all means, you just keep voting for Republicans because they really care about you.

Stop being hateful little shits and you’ll be a lot happier.

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:05:01pm

re: #115 Timothy Watson

Stop being hateful little shits and you’ll be a lot happier.

There’s a reason envy is included in the seven deadly sins.

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:05:04pm

Schumer: Democrats will filibuster Gorsuch nomination
washingtonpost.com

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:05:20pm

Remember when Betsy McCaughey & Sister Sarah were on his ass about the death panels?

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thedopefishlives  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:05:28pm

re: #117 jaunte

Schumer: Democrats will filibuster Gorsuch nomination
washingtonpost.com

Can they filibuster him until a new President is elected?

/half

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:06:03pm

re: #113 Skip Intro

A spiral of despair may be sending more working-class whites to an early grave

sanluisobispo.com

Well don’t go there before you give us a chance to sell off your body parts. And by all means, you just keep voting for Republicans because they really care about you.

I hate to be quite so cold and unfeeling as this, but it seems like when you expose white people to the same conditions that black and brown people have survived for years, they don’t do as well. So, maybe white privilege isn’t because white people deserve it. It’s because we’re just not as strong.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:07:04pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

I hate to be quite so cold and unfeeling as this, but it seems like when you expose white people to the same conditions that black and brown people have survived for years, they don’t do as well. So, maybe white privilege isn’t because white people deserve it. It’s because we’re just not as strong.

Are you suggesting that white privilege is a form of affirmative action?

/

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:09:58pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

Considering who they turned the country over to I’m just not feeling any sympathy. However I did like it better when their horrible decision making just affected them instead of all of us.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:10:16pm

re: #111 jaunte

#RookiesError

This needs to trend.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:11:00pm

re: #111 jaunte

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Hot! [sorry if that seems sexist, but she exudes swagger here, so—Hot!]

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:12:01pm
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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:12:07pm

re: #121 Targetpractice

Are you suggesting that white privilege is a form of affirmative action?

/

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thedopefishlives  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:12:58pm

re: #126 Timothy Watson

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:13:56pm

Oh, for fuck’s sake!

Nunes is gonna break something, backpedaling so fast. Today he admits that he’s not sure that ANYONE in the Transition was even ON any of the intercepted communications, and it might just be that they were TALKED ABOUT on the calls.

This is fucking MADNESS.

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:15:06pm

re: #116 Belafon

There’s a reason envy is included in the seven deadly sins.

That’s the Democratic version you are using.

In the Republican version “evil” was replaced by “liberalism.”

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William Lewis  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:16:17pm

re: #94 EPR-radar

Where’s that damn +10 upding button?

You know, to keep people from abusing it too much, Charles could put one on but make it take them from the clicker’s karma score.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:16:46pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

Here’s the thing though, they are despairing over bullshit and creating the conditions that are killing them despite having some level of privilege.

Stop hating people, learn some shit, stop being scared and see that the world isn’t bad for you in so many ways and that you have a lot of power to help change the parts that are. Then you consequently make it better for those who are actually suffering from systemic bias, historical bigotry and daily micro aggressions.

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:17:38pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

I hate to be quite so cold and unfeeling as this, but it seems like when you expose white people to the same conditions that black and brown people have survived for years, they don’t do as well. So, maybe white privilege isn’t because white people deserve it. It’s because we’re just not as strong.

Being on top and making others work for you tends to change those genes over time.

I wouldn’t use strong though. I know strong white people that have the real problem.

Soft.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:18:15pm

re: #128 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, for fuck’s sake!

Nunes is gonna break something, backpedaling so fast. Today he admits that he’s not sure that ANYONE in the Transition was even ON any of the intercepted communications, and it might just be that they were TALKED ABOUT on the calls.

This is fucking MADNESS.

He walked out onto the edge of the cliff and got shot at. That’s enough to make even the most brazen liar think twice.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:19:02pm

re: #128 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, for fuck’s sake!

Nunes is gonna break something, backpedaling so fast. Today he admits that he’s not sure that ANYONE in the Transition was even ON any of the intercepted communications, and it might just be that they were TALKED ABOUT on the calls.

This is fucking MADNESS.

Yes, and its the exact same pattern that we saw with Comey’s ratfucking before the election. Grab the headlines when needed, and then it is not news when the Great Revelations turn out to be a nothing burger a few days later.

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:19:20pm

re: #130 William Lewis

You know, to keep people from abusing it too much, Charles could put one on but make it take them from the clicker’s karma score.

At first I liked that idea, but I think it’s better that we get practice in organizing. Recruit your fellow lizards to the cause.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:20:15pm

re: #128 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, for fuck’s sake!

Nunes is gonna break something, backpedaling so fast. Today he admits that he’s not sure that ANYONE in the Transition was even ON any of the intercepted communications, and it might just be that they were TALKED ABOUT on the calls.

This is fucking MADNESS.

“I always made one prayer to God, a very short one. Here it is: “O Lord, make our enemies quite ridiculous!” God granted it.”

- Voltaire

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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:20:42pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:21:18pm

re: #125 Kragar

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It’s the same as desecrating Jewish graves I tells ya!!

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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:21:37pm

re: #137 gocart mozart

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Poor Wario…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:21:38pm

re: #131 JordanRules

Here’s the thing though, they are despairing over bullshit and creating the conditions that are killing them despite having some level of privilege.

Stop hating people, learn some shit, stop being scared and see that the world isn’t bad for you in so many ways and that you have a lot of power to help change the parts that are. Then you consequently make it better for those who are actually suffering from systemic bias, historical bigotry and daily micro aggressions.

The thing that makes the whole election more understandable? The areas that bought into Trump’s fear-and hatemongering over The Other are the most homogeneous. Areas where people interact with something other than straight white Christians are much harder to scare with bullshit they know from their own experience isn’t true.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:22:14pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:23:02pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

Which BTW also makes it funny when people who live in Cousinfuck West Virginia tell me that they know more about the MOOZLIMZ and Messicans than I do, given that they probably never met either.

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:23:04pm

re: #136 Targetpractice

“I always made one prayer to God, a very short one. Here it is: “O Lord, make our enemies quite ridiculous!” God granted it.”

- Voltaire

*wingnut*

“Where’s the gauddammmed ‘merican philosophers around here? What’s with these poofy French crybabies!!!”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:23:54pm

re: #137 gocart mozart

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:24:20pm

Devin Nunes was a great distraction from the healthcare disaster, wasn’t he?

//

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:25:21pm

Someone brought up a good theory, that yesterday was a test by the IC of Nunes’ loyalties. Just give him a nugget and see where he runs with it. If that’s so, then he’s failed miserably.

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:26:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:27:51pm

re: #128 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, for fuck’s sake!

Nunes is gonna break something, backpedaling so fast. Today he admits that he’s not sure that ANYONE in the Transition was even ON any of the intercepted communications, and it might just be that they were TALKED ABOUT on the calls.

This is fucking MADNESS.

He is backpedaling because he opened up an entire case of legal whoop ass against himself.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:27:59pm

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

That line of argument is my favorite!

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:29:02pm
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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:29:05pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:29:22pm

re: #48 thedopefishlives

Pretty much everyone who has passed through the doors of the White House has emerged with serious signs of aging. It’s not for the faint of heart or the ill of health. But let’s not forget, Drumpf is the healthiest president EVER.

Presidents at the beginning and end of their terms.

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:29:56pm

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

Devin Nunes was a great distraction from the healthcare disaster, wasn’t he?

//

Beauty in this day is the media is spreading the FAIL all over both Ryan and the party for mucking about and Trump for failing to be the big shot deal maker. And healthcare gets tied to all of them. Then add in Russia and they all get to wear that too.

There is so much smokescreen in GOP DC haunts, they are choking on their own shit!

I’m not giving them any haz masks either. I’m gonna be all AHCA cruel that way,

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:30:04pm

Jim Wright’s latest essay at Stonekettle station is a real thought provoker. stonekettle.com

The thesis is simple enough to state: some kind of compromise between red America and blue America is necessary if we aren’t to end up with a cold civil war or being perpetually on the verge of a cold civil war.

That’s true enough, but I honestly don’t see how this is possible. Republicans have unilaterally radicalized themselves to an extreme degree, and the political reality is that the Democrats must respond in kind (at least in part, although the Democrats have nothing like Fox News or Hate Radio and shouldn’t do that shit) or just get rolled over.

As ever, one side or the other can ensure war, but peace requires both sides to cooperate.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:30:07pm

re: #147 jaunte

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I think the big lesson to be learned from this is that the best way forward is to play the GOP against itself. Force Ryan and Yertle to draw strictly from their own party to pass bills, then watch as they flail uselessly to satisfy moderates and far-right loons simultaneously.

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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:31:40pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:32:32pm

re: #152 The Vicious Babushka

“Do not, my friends, allow yourselves to become addicted to water!”

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Citizen K  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:34:59pm

re: #142 Blind Frog Belly White

Which BTW also makes it funny when people who live in Cousinfuck West Virginia tell me that they know more about the MOOZLIMZ and Messicans than I do, given that they probably never met either.

As someone who has family in West Virginia, you have no idea how frustrating it is, especially seeing my parents’ friends (all Filipino immigrants themselves) falling into that same mindset themselves. It’s a small miracle my parents have remained the decent people that they are.

As a note too…it’s funny that all the places they tend to decry as out of touch liberal havens blind to the real threat tend to be…the most threatened places, and yet remain, you know, not hair-on-fire, pants-wetting panicked the supposed existential threat of monolithic Muslim and/or Mexican massacre mobs.

But I suppose that shows just how detached we are from “Real America”.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:35:11pm

re: #128 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, for fuck’s sake!

Nunes is gonna break something, backpedaling so fast. Today he admits that he’s not sure that ANYONE in the Transition was even ON any of the intercepted communications, and it might just be that they were TALKED ABOUT on the calls.

This is fucking MADNESS.

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:35:14pm
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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:35:37pm

re: #160 Anymouse

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:37:24pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:37:35pm

re: #154 EPR-radar

Jim Wright’s latest essay at Stonekettle station is a real thought provoker. stonekettle.com

The thesis is simple enough to state: some kind of compromise between red America and blue America is necessary if we aren’t to end up with a cold civil war or being perpetually on the verge of a cold civil war.

That’s true enough, but I honestly don’t see how this is possible. Republicans have unilaterally radicalized themselves to an extreme degree, and the political reality is that the Democrats must respond in kind (at least in part, although the Democrats have nothing like Fox News or Hate Radio and shouldn’t do that shit) or just get rolled over.

As ever, one side or the other can ensure war, but peace requires both sides to cooperate.

The only way it could be done is a slow change back to actual balanced news and stopping all the favored party other is evil BS.

You’d have to wean people off gradually to not shock their brain chemistry and cause them to question why they aren’t as riled up and hating everything so much.

All of the wingnut outlets would have to sign a Surrender to Reality Agreement and be forced to go along with the process or they get their FCC licenses pulled.

Hmmm. We’d probably also have to restore the FCC the way things are going.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:39:29pm

re: #154 EPR-radar

Jim Wright’s latest essay at Stonekettle station is a real thought provoker. stonekettle.com

The thesis is simple enough to state: some kind of compromise between red America and blue America is necessary if we aren’t to end up with a cold civil war or being perpetually on the verge of a cold civil war.

That’s true enough, but I honestly don’t see how this is possible. Republicans have unilaterally radicalized themselves to an extreme degree, and the political reality is that the Democrats must respond in kind (at least in part, although the Democrats have nothing like Fox News or Hate Radio and shouldn’t do that shit) or just get rolled over.

As ever, one side or the other can ensure war, but peace requires both sides to cooperate.

And yet, I’m an atheist Democratic vice-mayor in the most conservative house district in the nation, elected twice (the second time over the freakin’ gun shop owner here who’d been on the board before).

It won’t happen until local people engage their towns. All politics is local, and state and national politicians come from local ones.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:39:41pm

re: #157 gocart mozart

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Looks like a bit of angry sex compared to that time he made sweet love to a chair during the town hall debate.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:41:02pm

re: #104 Bubblehead II

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Bob knows I was stupid enough to buy a box of Trump Steaks for my parents.

Mom replied to me that they tasted like dead elephant dicks…

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:41:25pm

Aaaaawwww

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majii  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:41:25pm

re: #8 JordanRules

Helen Beristain is getting exactly what she voted for. One should never think that another’s deplorable attitude toward a group of persons, a group that you’re a member of, doesn’t apply to him/her or his/her family members. Helen Beristain is finding this out the hard way.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:42:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:43:05pm

re: #169 majii

Helen Beristain is getting exactly what she voted for. One should never think that another’s deplorable attitude toward a group of persons, a group that you’re a member of, doesn’t apply to him/her or his/her family members. Helen Beristain is finding this out the hard way.

Her attitude seems to be common among right wingers I’ve observed. They never consider the negative ramifications of the policies they support until it comes home. And I really think that is one of the things that separates liberals and conservatives the most.

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:43:22pm

re: #165 Anymouse

And yet, I’m an atheist Democratic vice-mayor in the most conservative house district in the nation, elected twice (the second time over the freakin’ gun shop owner here who’d been on the board before).

It won’t happen until local people engage their towns. All politics is local, and state and national politicians come from local ones.

So, how does that explain Trump?

Ooops, time to scoot…gotta be somewhere around 7!

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:43:29pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Answer: 10
Bonus points: men can get breast cancer, too.

And there is a boob on the far right.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:43:40pm

re: #163 Kragar

Ouch, but the Tarantinoesque music made it all worthwhile.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:43:49pm

re: #24 EPR-radar

How would you know whether or not all Trump voters are bigots? They voted for a bigot so they have no problem with bigotry.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:45:00pm

Yes, I think we all can.

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:45:38pm
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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:45:55pm

re: #128 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, for fuck’s sake!

Nunes is gonna break something, backpedaling so fast. Today he admits that he’s not sure that ANYONE in the Transition was even ON any of the intercepted communications, and it might just be that they were TALKED ABOUT on the calls.

This is fucking MADNESS.

I know that just about anything this administration does get’s labelled as a distraction.

But the guy calls two press conferences to claim he’s got ‘proof’ that transition team members were ‘unmasked,’ runs to the White House to ‘brief’ the president, can’t produce the ‘evidence’ to show to his own committee, and follows it up today with a statement that the transition team members may not have even been ‘unmasked.’

This? This was a distraction.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:46:00pm

re: #172 ObserverArt

So, how does that explain Trump?

Ooops, time to scoot…gotta be somewhere around 7!

Have to start somewhere. Start at the bottom and work up (my eye is on the county commission in the next election to unseat a wingnut). Another person was inspired to join the board (also a liberal).

Democrats can’t continue ceding territory. The party must have a long game.

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AGE1607  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:46:12pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

I also see 5 colons and Obamacare covers colonopscopies.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:47:22pm

re: #179 Anymouse

Have to start somewhere. Start at the bottom and work up (my eye is on the county commission in the next election to unseat a wingnut). Another person was inspired to join the board (also a liberal).

Democrats can’t continue ceding territory. The party must have a long game.

I agree with that. At the same time though, it’s going to take time and patience.

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:47:37pm

Dis my human now

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:47:57pm

White supremacists fear backlash after NY killing. Yes. Really!

nydailynews.com

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:48:39pm

re: #170 FormerDirtDart

DO NOT QUESTION HAPPY FUNDRAISER

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Joe Bacon  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:49:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:49:22pm

re: #183 GlutenFreeJesus

White supremacists fear backlash after NY killing. Yes. Really!

nydailynews.com

Who would have thought? As I said earlier, if there’s anything more pathetic than a normal white supremacist, it’s a whiny one.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:49:35pm

re: #175 Patricia Kayden

How would you know whether or not all Trump voters are bigots? They voted for a bigot so they have no problem with bigotry.

My #24 was badly said. It should have been more like — So Trump voters might not all be bigots, but they sure as hell had no problem with Trump being a bigot.

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allegro  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:49:37pm

re: #154 EPR-radar

Jim Wright’s latest essay at Stonekettle station is a real thought provoker. stonekettle.com

The thesis is simple enough to state: some kind of compromise between red America and blue America is necessary if we aren’t to end up with a cold civil war or being perpetually on the verge of a cold civil war.

That’s true enough, but I honestly don’t see how this is possible. Republicans have unilaterally radicalized themselves to an extreme degree, and the political reality is that the Democrats must respond in kind (at least in part, although the Democrats have nothing like Fox News or Hate Radio and shouldn’t do that shit) or just get rolled over.

As ever, one side or the other can ensure war, but peace requires both sides to cooperate.

I keep scratching my head trying to figure out what weird definition of “compromise” he’s trying to use. In my dictionary compromise is both sides giving up something to come to consensus. IMO such things as civil rights and women’s bodily autonomy are just not available for compromise. At that he does the MBF thing and goes “aha! see? I told you”. Then he uses as an example of his idea of compromise as working around those who will not play. That is not compromise, that is strategy.

What I do agree with is more effective messaging/communication on the Democratic side. Something we’ve discussed a lot here. But then we get into the weeds on the media as was so clearly demonstrated during the election. So. I dunno.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:50:07pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

My #24 was badly said. It should have been more like — So Trump voters might not all be bigots, but they sure as hell had no problem with Trump being a bigot.

I feel they were bigots or indifferent to bigotry. Neither speak well to their character IMO.

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mmmirele  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:50:20pm

Since the Senate voted to make it OK for ISPs to sell our browsing history, I’m looking at a VPN. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:50:56pm

re: #151 JordanRules

The @GOP would have had a Plan B, but their pharmacists had religious objections to dispensing one. #AHCA

— Allan Brauer (@allanbrauer) March 23, 2017

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:51:36pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Who would have thought? As I said earlier, if there’s anything more pathetic than a normal white supremacist, it’s a whiny one.

The Daily Stormer founder also said that “society” should now rally around white supremacists, and encouraged people to “accompany” white supremacists on their way to work and to use the #IllRideWithYou hashtag on social media.

Special snowflake needs a safe space. /s

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:51:42pm

re: #178 makeitstop

IMO it was reinforcing the defense with the base and they ate it up. All their friendly media ran with it and Cheeto himself said he felt somewhat vindicated. See they were tapping him!!!!

More ominously, he’s coordinating with the WH for cover and obstructing the actual investigation.

But it’s all part of the same story.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:51:56pm

re: #188 allegro

I keep scratching my head trying to figure out what weird definition of “compromise” he’s trying to use. In my dictionary compromise is both sides giving up something to come to consensus. IMO such things as civil rights and women’s bodily autonomy are just not available for compromise. At that he does the MBF thing and goes “aha! see? I told you”. Then he uses as an example of his idea of compromise as working around those who will not play. That is not compromise, that is strategy.

What I do agree with is more effective messaging/communication on the Democratic side. Something we’ve discussed a lot here. But then we get into the weeds on the media as was so clearly demonstrated during the election. So. I dunno.

The best idea I saw in that mystifying mess was the idea of Democratic politicians showing up at no-show GOP town halls to talk to the people there and maybe make some progress vs. the GOP. That’s a really good idea.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:52:29pm

re: #188 allegro

I keep scratching my head trying to figure out what weird definition of “compromise” he’s trying to use. In my dictionary compromise is both sides giving up something to come to consensus. IMO such things as civil rights and women’s bodily autonomy are just not available for compromise. At that he does the MBF thing and goes “aha! see? I told you”. Then he uses as an example of his idea of compromise as working around those who will not play. That is not compromise, that is strategy.

What I do agree with is more effective messaging/communication on the Democratic side. Something we’ve discussed a lot here. But then we get into the weeds on the media as was so clearly demonstrated during the election. So. I dunno.

Yeah there are certain principles I have that I don’t believe we should compromise. The ones you bring up are big ones. And you’re right. Compromise involves the other side giving something up too. I haven’t seen any desire for that. I’m not going to want to play nice with them until they acknowledge that my women, minority, LGBT, friends and family should have the same rights as they do. Until then, I’m just not in the mood.

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:53:42pm

re: #155 Targetpractice

watch as they flail uselessly to satisfy moderates far-right loons and farther-right loons simultaneously.

Tweaked for accuracy.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:53:48pm

re: #192 Anymouse

Special snowflake needs a safe space. /s

Yeah that’s why it’s so hilarious to me. They mock college lefties for safe spaces and here they are demanding pretty much. As I said about Spencer when he got punched, you don’t get to talk about “peaceful ethnic cleansing” and not expect a punch.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:54:50pm

re: #194 EPR-radar

The best idea I saw in that mystifying mess was the idea of Democratic politicians showing up at no-show GOP town halls to talk to the people there and maybe make some progress vs. the GOP. That’s a really good idea.

Yeah that’s a good idea and that’s something I think already being done. The GOP voters though have to be willing to listen. They need to stop believing right wing bullshit as the Gospel Truth and stop viewing anything liberal and or Democratic as SOCIALISM!.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:54:53pm

re: #183 GlutenFreeJesus

White supremacists fear backlash after NY killing. Yes. Really!

nydailynews.com

You’re known by the Einsatzkommando you keep.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:55:13pm

re: #188 allegro

I keep scratching my head trying to figure out what weird definition of “compromise” he’s trying to use. In my dictionary compromise is both sides giving up something to come to consensus. IMO such things as civil rights and women’s bodily autonomy are just not available for compromise. At that he does the MBF thing and goes “aha! see? I told you”. Then he uses as an example of his idea of compromise as working around those who will not play. That is not compromise, that is strategy.

What I do agree with is more effective messaging/communication on the Democratic side. Something we’ve discussed a lot here. But then we get into the weeds on the media as was so clearly demonstrated during the election. So. I dunno.

He answered that question near the bottom of the essay:

I used the word compromise on purpose.

I used it deliberately and with malice aforethought.

I used it knowing what would happen, how you’d react.

I used it because I knew, I knew, that it would provoke a visceral reaction. I used it because it’s as much a trigger for many of you as it is for those you despise. You hear compromise and instantly your teeth are bared and your fists are clenched. No. No compromise. It’s not up to us to compromise, it’s up to them! No. No compromise. No peace. Die!

But, you see, in those paragraphs describing civil war and reeducation camps up above, the partisan you isn’t identified and as such those statements could apply equally well to the other side - and do.

I said I wasn’t asking you to compromise with hate, but with fear.

The issue is figuring out how to compromise with fear. How to assuage it.

There are a certain number of voters who will be hateful always and forever. Mr. Wright did not ask (and explicitly stated in the essay) that compromise with hate is unnecessary.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:55:47pm

re: #166 Targetpractice

Looks like a bit of angry sex compared to that time he made sweet love to a chair during the town hall debate.

Needs the visual.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:55:59pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Yeah there are certain principles I have that I don’t believe we should compromise. The ones you bring up are big ones. And you’re right. Compromise involves the other side giving something up too. I haven’t seen any desire for that. I’m not going to want to play nice with them until they acknowledge that my women, minority, LGBT, friends and family should have the same rights as they do. Until then, I’m just not in the mood.

What I want is reality based democratic governance. Republicans do not want that. They want an oligarchy propped up by lies and bullshit.

No compromise between these two positions is possible. As indicated upthread, a large scale cult deprogramming effort is pretty much what is needed to get wingnuts back in contact with reality.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:57:49pm

My question I guess remains is how do you convince a bloc that sees other people having equal rights as they do as that group having “special rights.” I’m familiar with conservative rhetoric on LGBT rights. They really think gay people want “special rights” when they just want the same rights that come in a marriage as straight people and they don’t want to be treated like sexual predators. And that unfortunately seems a bridge too far for many conservative leaning voters. It’s like this on a lot of issues for conservatives. They don’t think about an issue’s impact until it hits close home to them, i.e. that lady in Indiana whose husband is being deported.

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:57:51pm

re: #167 Joe Bacon

Bob knows I was stupid enough to buy a box of Trump Steaks for my parents.

Mom replied to me that they tasted like dead elephant dicks…

Trump Steaks: “Grade Z meat at Grade A prices!”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:58:31pm

re: #202 EPR-radar

What I want is reality based democratic governance. Republicans do not want that. They want an oligarchy propped up by lies and bullshit.

No compromise between these two positions is possible. As indicated upthread, a large scale cult deprogramming effort is pretty much what is needed to get wingnuts back in contact with reality.

Yes, real democratic governing. Not Republicans holding any Democratic legislation hostage to satisfy their bloodthirsty base.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:58:58pm

re: #202 EPR-radar

Agreed. Media overhaul and required history are part of that. Other than that, I’m not sure how we bridge the divide.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:59:06pm

re: #202 EPR-radar

What I want is reality based democratic governance. Republicans do not want that. They want an oligarchy propped up by lies and bullshit.

No compromise between these two positions is possible. As indicated upthread, a large scale cult deprogramming effort is pretty much what is needed to get wingnuts back in contact with reality.

If you are unwilling to find common ground (and assuage fear in conservative voters), then you really only have two choices:

a) concede
b) war (a cold one or an uncivil one)

If you choose either, I recommend becoming proficient in firearms.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:59:07pm

re: #167 Joe Bacon

Bob knows I was stupid enough to buy a box of Trump Steaks for my parents.

Mom replied to me that they tasted like dead elephant dicks…

I’d be tempted to ask your mom how she knows that, but I think I’ll pass.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:59:13pm

IIRC, Stonekettle has recently moved into the batshit North Florida panhandle, not far from here. I don’t think his new neighbors are going to improve his disposition.

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Kragar  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:59:14pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:00:22pm

re: #200 Anymouse

As a gay person who has an obvious personal interest in the subject of homophobia, I’m skeptical that a clean distinction between fear and hate exists in the way needed for Wright’s thesis to get off the ground.

In my view hate and fear in politics converge to basically the same thing, especially after application of decades of propaganda designed to amplify fear and turn it into hate.

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allegro  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:00:33pm

re: #194 EPR-radar

The best idea I saw in that mystifying mess was the idea of Democratic politicians showing up at no-show GOP town halls to talk to the people there and maybe make some progress vs. the GOP. That’s a really good idea.

That is an outstanding idea. Talk about the perfect opportunity!

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:00:40pm

re: #207 Anymouse

I guess I choose B then. I’m not giving up my rights and conceding human rights.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:01:21pm

re: #207 Anymouse

If you are unwilling to find common ground (and assuage fear in conservative voters), then you really only have two choices:

a) concede
b) war (a cold one or an uncivil one)

If you choose either, I recommend becoming proficient in firearms.

Okay, what should we compromise on? And as already been said, compromise is a two way street. I’m willing to work to cut waste in government but too many conservative office holders read office holders think the solution is just to cut a program i.e. what we’re seeing with the Trump budget and Meals on Wheels. It’s difficult to find common ground with people who seldom if ever show an ability to want to listen to other opinions.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:01:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:02:29pm

re: #211 EPR-radar

As a gay person who has an obvious personal interest in the subject of homophobia, I’m skeptical that a clean distinction between fear and hate exists in the way needed for Wright’s thesis to get off the ground.

In my view hate and fear in politics converge to basically the same thing, especially after application of decades of propaganda designed to amplify fear and turn it to hate.

That’s how I feel about immigration. My brother’s wife and her family are immigrants and too much of the conservative rank and file demonize immigrants for “taking our jobs.”

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:03:12pm

Compromise with Steve King’s party??!?! Really y’all?

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:04:20pm

re: #210 Kragar

Diesel fuel and hair spray are a lethal combination.

18 Wheels and a Crowbar

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:04:25pm

Compromise with the party that did not denounce Steve King at all!?!? Come on son!!

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Amory Blaine  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:05:27pm

The compromise was the unfailingly cordial Obama administrations approach. Compromise is finished.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:05:36pm

Compromise with the party that just shit on women’s health again today!?!? Pshhhh

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:06:13pm

Republican Senator Hails Goldman Sachs As A Champion Of ‘The Little Guy’

But Hillary’s speeches! Doesn’t anybody remember Hillary’s speeches to evil Goldman Sachs? I think the GOP candidate made a real big deal about them.

huffingtonpost.com;

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:06:25pm

re: #211 EPR-radar

As a gay person who has an obvious personal interest in the subject of homophobia, I’m skeptical that a clean distinction between fear and hate exists in the way needed for Wright’s thesis to get off the ground.

In my view hate and fear in politics converge to basically the same thing, especially after application of decades of propaganda designed to amplify fear and turn it to hate.

My town knows my sister is in a same-sex marriage. Our last village clerk was a lesbian (she married and left her position to purchase a business here).

The two converge to the same thing unless that convergence is opposed.

Not every conservative is a wingnut. Plenty of people can be reasoned with. If enough people throw up their hands though, then going back to that firearms training is the only other option.

I suppose if I had enough money I could move to California or Massachusetts or something. That’s just one less liberal voice here. I could cower in my house. Or I can try to change things, with those who are willing to change.

Which do you suggest?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:06:32pm

re: #219 JordanRules

Compromise with the party that did not denounce Steve King at all!?!? Come on son!!

We haven’t begun to see what the TPGOP, unleashed by Trump and Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, are capable of.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:07:24pm

re: #224 Decatur Deb

Which is why it’s best to get the “compromise” hogwash out of the way now.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:08:34pm

re: #224 Decatur Deb

Exactly! It’s going to get worse.

From my perspective King’s always been like that and been a danger to me. He’s always been welcome in that party for a reason.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:08:42pm

re: #225 Amory Blaine

Which is why it’s best to get the “compromise” hogwash out of the way now.

We’re humans. We compromise when both sides are sick of the bloodletting.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:08:55pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

Okay, what should we compromise on?

Just as Mr. Wright wrote in his essay, he predicted these sort of responses. He did not ask to compromise with hatred. There will always be hateful people. He asked to compromise with fear. Understand it. Show the fearful why they do not have to be afraid.

It will take time. Lots of time. The other choice is “screw it” and shut yourself in.

On the national level, less than half the voters turned out. Start with them.

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majii  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:10:02pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

“I hate to be quite so cold and unfeeling as this, but it seems like when you expose white people to the same conditions that black and brown people have survived for years, they don’t do as well. So, maybe white privilege isn’t because white people deserve it. It’s because we’re just not as strong.”

I shared the article on Facebook with the following comment added: When one decides to turn one’s decision-making ability over to others, those persons can then treat him/her any way they want. I paraphrased what LBJ said over 5 years ago:”If a politician can convince a white person that s/he’s better than n*****s, he can get them to vote against their interests.”

Alternet had a great article a few years ago about how many Americans have permitted politicians to make decisions for them because they are either un/under-educated, rely on others to explain complex issues to them, and seem to think that the politicians they support will always act in the best interests when many times, they don’t.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:10:22pm

re: #228 Anymouse

I agree. This is why compromise is unnecessary. We can draw from the larger pool of morons rather than try to negotiate with terrorists.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:10:40pm

re: #227 Decatur Deb

We’re humans. We compromise when both sides are sick of the bloodletting.

We compromise when both sides have been burnt to the ground. When one side is still standing, we call it surrender.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:11:40pm

re: #230 Amory Blaine

That’s always been my thinking. Compromising with the cult and the party is a waste of my time and energy.

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allegro  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:11:44pm

re: #200 Anymouse

He answered that question near the bottom of the essay:

The issue is figuring out how to compromise with fear. How to assuage it.

There are a certain number of voters who will be hateful always and forever. Mr. Wright did not ask (and explicitly stated in the essay) that compromise with hate is unnecessary.

I did read it. Compromise with fear. Just doesn’t make sense. You give up some of your fear and I will give up… what? Something that makes you fearful? What would that be? What are those rural voters afraid of? Minorities is one thing. Where is the compromise that will make them less fearful that is at all acceptable? Who do we toss under the bus to make them less fearful? As if that is even possible. That is but one example. I can’t think of any that make any more sense.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:11:47pm

re: #231 Targetpractice

We compromise when both sides have been burnt to the ground. When one side is still standing, we call it surrender.

Hey. I’m trying to be Little Mary Fuckn’ Sunshine, here.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:12:18pm

re: #217 JordanRules

Compromise with Steve King’s party??!?! Really y’all?

Fuck that noise. The best near-term possibility I can see is that Trump damages the GOP without getting us all the way into a post-apocalypse scenario and the GOP loses at least the house in 2018. That would at least get a band-aid onto the sucking chest wound of the Trump presidency*.

This requires a competent Democratic party effort in all states and enough of a wave election to overcome the GOP gerrymandering, so it’s definitely a stretch goal. But even this would do nothing about the long term fact that about half the electorate is poisoning themselves with this GOP shit and getting more rabid every year.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:12:48pm

re: #230 Amory Blaine

I agree. This is why compromise is unnecessary. We can draw from the larger pool of morons rather than try to negotiate with terrorists.

Well, it’s probably not good to start with the majority who did not vote and call them “morons.” Propaganda’s a helluva drug, and for forty years or more people have been indoctrinated and evangelised with the idea “both parties are the same.”

Democrats can attack Republicans, sure, because politics is not a nice game. But Democrats also have to articulate clearly what they stand for (in every single precinct, running candidates in every position).

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:13:21pm

re: #162 jaunte

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(alpuz)  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:14:14pm

re: #232 JordanRules

Look, Rev. what say you if I drink that kool-aid later. Do you have a to go cup?

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Amory Blaine  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:14:21pm

Believe this, any compromise on this ACA repeal is all the GOP needs to stain the dems in perpetuity. Look at what authorizing Bush to go to war in Iraq bought Hillary and all the dems that did. Knives in the front, knives in the back.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:14:56pm

re: #237 goddamnedfrank

So can I rob two banks today, give the money back tomorrow, and everything’s cool again?

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:15:01pm

re: #237 goddamnedfrank

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Nunes has a lawyer yelling in his ear “YOU JUST INCRIMINATED YOURSELF, YOU DIPSHIT!”

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:15:02pm

re: #235 EPR-radar

Makes perfect sense!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:15:37pm

re: #240 Skip Intro

So can I rob two banks today, give the money back tomorrow, and everything’s cool again?

You can if you’re president of the banks.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:16:02pm

re: #233 allegro

I did read it. Compromise with fear. Just doesn’t make sense. You give up some of your fear and I will give up… what? Something that makes you fearful? What would that be? What are those rural voters afraid of? Minorities is one thing. Where is the compromise that will make them less fearful that is at all acceptable? Who do we toss under the bus to make them less fearful? As if that is even possible. That is but one example. I can’t think of any that make any more sense.

He addressed that too. Perhaps it’s Mr. Wright’s writing style … not everyone understood his position on this. Maybe like Rachel Maddow, he gets too deep in the subject and loses some readers:

You know, it’s funny. I came from the Heartland, the Midwest. I spent my life in the ultimate bastion of conservatism, the military. I lived in Alaska, the reddest of the Red States. I live now in the Panhandle of Florida among conservatives. I talk to these people. I eat with these people. I drink with these people. I’m related to these people. Those things up above? Many reasonable conservatives don’t really give a damn about those things. Not really. They want the same things you do, peace, security, safety, good paying jobs, decent schools and decent neighbors, bridges that don’t fall down, clean water, clean air, safe food, affordable healthcare, respect, pride, and it’s likely that we, left and right, have more in common than we don’t.

Look out there. What do you see?

Republican politicians can’t even talk to their own people.

Republican politicians are afraid, terrified, to face their own people in a town hall.

Doesn’t that suggest to you an opportunity?

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Shazam  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:16:24pm

The AHCA doesn’t go far enough for some Republicans. They’re holding out until it repeals all of civilization.

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allegro  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:17:58pm

re: #228 Anymouse

Just as Mr. Wright wrote in his essay, he predicted these sort of responses. He did not ask to compromise with hatred. There will always be hateful people. He asked to compromise with fear. Understand it. Show the fearful why they do not have to be afraid.

It will take time. Lots of time. The other choice is “screw it” and shut yourself in.

On the national level, less than half the voters turned out. Start with them.

That is not compromise. That is empathy and education.

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:18:11pm

re: #239 Amory Blaine

Believe this, any compromise on this ACA repeal is all the GOP needs to stain the dems in perpetuity. Look at what authorizing Bush to go to war in Iraq bought Hillary and all the dems that did. Knives in the front, knives in the back.

God yes. At least for the Democrats in Congress, compromise with the Republicans is unthinkable. It’s already a disappointment that some Democrats voted to confirm Trump cabinet members.

1) Gorsuch must be filibustered.
2) There must be no (D) votes for any GOP ‘repeal and replace’ of the ACA.
3) I can’t think of any reason for any Democrats to vote for anything else the GOP decides to bring up in Congress. Even a Republican bill to name a post office should be presumed corrupt until proven not.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:18:17pm

re: #243 Decatur Deb

You can if you’re president of the bank.

Right. Forgot about that.

“I don’t know how all that cash got into those 32 suitcases in my car, on to my plane, and into my account in the Caymans, but I’ll certainly be looking into it. Are we done here?”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:19:17pm

re: #248 Skip Intro

Right. Forgot about that.

“I don’t know how all that cash got into those 32 suitcases in my car, on to my plane, and into my account in the Caymans, but I’ll certainly be looking into it. Are we done here?”

In fact, they’ll be happy if you just give back the money from the smaller bank.

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:19:33pm

JihadiJew Fuckin’ Sunshine:

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:23:45pm
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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:24:22pm

re: #246 allegro

That is not compromise. That is empathy and education.

And that was the thrust of his essay. He used the word “compromise” to spin up liberals. He even said so in the essay. What he is arguing for is empathy and compassion.

That last line: “Doesn’t that suggest an opportunity” (on Republicans afraid to face their own voters) - now is the time to face their voters for them. Listen to conservatives’ issues (as he notes they are mostly the same as ours: good schools, clean water, jobs, &c).

If Republicans are afraid of their own voters (as shown by their fear of town hall events), that is a sterling opportunity to address them ourselves. The GOP is leaving its own voters without their message.

When all those town halls were being cancelled and such, where were Democratic candidates or politicians to go to those places? (I heard of only one.)

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Amory Blaine  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:24:26pm

The good news is that Trump is awash in the corruption of the GOP and this is our greatest ally. Bogging down the shit machine while we catch our bearings is the best we can hope for at this point.

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:24:32pm
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Dave In Austin  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:26:06pm

re: #250 wrenchwench

JihadiJew Fuckin’ Sunshine:

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Well…… He generally plants a ray of sunshine or 2 in my days…. I for one am grateful for Lee.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:26:36pm

re: #236 Anymouse

Heh, that’s why I’m a back of the house person.

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allegro  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:26:40pm

re: #244 Anymouse

He addressed that too. Perhaps it’s Mr. Wright’s writing style … not everyone understood his position on this. Maybe like Rachel Maddow, he gets too deep in the subject and loses some readers:

Once again you quote something to me that I have already read. My reading comprehension is just fine, thank you. And once again, he is not at all demonstrating that compromise - his entire stated point of his articles - is what he’s even talking about in the end. It is about empathy and education.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:27:03pm

I’m going to sign out now … need a nap. I’m either entering my second childhood or haven’t left my first and need my sleep. (::

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:27:41pm

re: #255 Dave In Austin

Well…… He generally plants a ray of sunshine or 2 in my days…. I for one am grateful for Lee.

One of the best items on offer at twitter.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:29:34pm

re: #219 JordanRules

Compromise with the party that did not denounce Steve King at all!?!? Come on son!!

And that isn’t even talked about. He made a racist comment and everyone just moved on as if nothing happened. Highly unsettling.

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majii  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:30:04pm

re: #155 Targetpractice

“I think the big lesson to be learned from this is that the best way forward is to play the GOP against itself. Force Ryan and Yertle to draw strictly from their own party to pass bills, then watch as they flail uselessly to satisfy moderates and far-right loons simultaneously.”

I have a lot of GOPers who are former co-workers as Facebook “friends, so I’ve been posting the following on my wall with articles about the GOP hc bill that I find interesting:

“Pull that trigger, Speaker Ryan, because that is what you, the president, and your fellow GOP politicians in Congress were elected to do.”

By adding the above to my posts, my unspoken message to my RW Facebook friends is:”Yes, I know you now realize that you have f*cked up your own hc by electing these bozos, now own it.” I am so fed up with their ignorance and stupidity when it comes to voting in their best interests. They are not un/under-educated, but they have been brainwashed by RW talking points and BS.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:30:07pm

uh

Get him off the committee. Stat.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:30:44pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:30:53pm

At yesterday’s talk, Morris Dees repeated that the hope for America’s future depended on “reconciliation and forgiveness”. He made it clear that doesn’t mean compromise with the injustice he has been fighting for 50 years.

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:31:27pm

re: #262 Stanley Sea

uh

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Get him off the committee. Stat.

Translation: “My boss needed cover and I was in the position to provide it.”

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:31:59pm

re: #219 JordanRules

Compromise with the party that did not denounce Steve King at all!?!? Come on son!!

Mitch McConnell is a dishonorable man. Paul Ryan is a dishonorable man. Donald Trump is a despicable, dishonorable man.

Who, exactly, are the Dems supposed to compromise with?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:32:03pm

re: #260 Patricia Kayden

And that isn’t even talked about. He made a racist comment and everyone just moved on as if nothing happened. Highly unsettling.

Well given that the number three in the House of his party wanted to be Duke without the baggage, it’s not a surprise.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:32:26pm

If the quasi-compromise/slow walk to guide those lost appeals to you, by all means knock yourself out. I know many Dems on the ground who have been doing it on the micro level for years.

I just don’t think it should kept being held up as if it’s THE reason we don’t make more gains. It comes up time and again in liberal circles and reminds me of the inordinate number of stories the media continually does on WWC Drumpf supporters so we can ‘overstand’ them. How about profiling more Hillary voters and as for strategy how about listening more to the groups who keep voting in a way that will help everyone, including the vaunted WWC voter.

How about leaving the extra work of chasing these voters to those who want to and stop trying to cram it into our platform per se. Why do they even get so much attention? Which part of the WWC acronym grants them that? We have to keep the train moving forward and if and when they are ready, they can run faster to catch up. We’ll pick up the newly engaged along the way too but I’m not slowing down. I’m a progressive damnet.

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gocart mozart  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:33:06pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:33:34pm

re: #260 Patricia Kayden

And that isn’t even talked about. He made a racist comment and everyone just moved on as if nothing happened. Highly unsettling.

“Oh, that’s just Steve. Such a kidder. Did you know he has a model of the wall and a confederate flag in his office? Such a joker, that Steve.”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:35:00pm

re: #268 JordanRules

… Why do they even get so much attention? Which part of the WWC acronym grants them that?

The math part. They remain the largest identity group in the potential Dem coalition until about 2040.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:35:25pm

re: #262 Stanley Sea

uh

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Get him off the committee. Stat.

Just going on Hannity should be cause enough.

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KerFuFFler  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:35:33pm

Liked this comment on the WashPo article about Nunes tattling to Trump:

The “incidental surveillance” that the GOP head of the Congressional Committee investigating Russian interference in the election ran to the White House to tell Trump about has been identified: a traffic cam on Fifth Avenue that picked up comings and goings at Trump Tower.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:35:42pm

re: #268 JordanRules

If the quasi-compromise/slow walk to guide those lost appeals to you, by all means knock yourself out. I know many Dems on the ground who have been doing it on the micro level for years.

I just don’t think it should kept being held up as if it’s THE reason we don’t make more gains. It comes up time and again in liberal circles and reminds me of the inordinate number of stories the media continually does on WWC Drumpf supporters so we can ‘overstand’ them. How about profiling more Hillary voters and as for strategy how about listening more to the groups who keep voting in a way that will help everyone, including the vaunted WWC voter.

How about leaving the extra work of chasing these voters to those who want to and stop trying to cram it into our platform per se. Why do they even get so much attention? Which part of the WWC acronym grants them that? We have to keep the train moving forward and if and when they are ready, they can run faster to catch up. We’ll pick up the newly engaged along the way too but I’m not slowing down. I’m a progressive damnet.

As I’ve said, I think many have this rose colored image of the WWC because so many of us and I include myself come from those type of families. My mom’s grandfathers were both coal miners in fact in a region that was once staunchly Democratic but went overwhelmingly for Trump. Where I differ though is I have no illusions about why those voters left the Democratic Party. And honestly, I know AM doesn’t like it but let me be blunt a lot of them are idiots, I am sorry but that woman in Indiana who voted for Trump liking his immigration policy with a Mexican immigrant husband is an idiot. Trump attacked ALL Mexican and Hispanic immigrants with her rhetoric and to be honest, me calling her an idiot is mild to her mindset of “I’m okay with bad stuff happening to other people as long it’s not hte ones I love.”

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:36:09pm

Eric Garland is showing no compromises.

There are like 20 more before those.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:36:12pm

re: #269 gocart mozart

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There’s a special place for those Freedumb Caucus assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:37:58pm

re: #271 Decatur Deb

The math part. They remain the largest identity group in the potential Dem coalition until about 2040.

The problem I have is so many want us to listen to them but no one dares them that they should stop treating social liberalism as an attack on them and their lives. As I’ve said, compromise is a two way street and these folks often have no desire to compromise. I agree with JR, we need to be going after our future. We need to make Hispanics and African Americans not just strong members of our coalition but reliable ones.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:39:43pm

re: #157 gocart mozart

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Hair flange.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:39:59pm

re: #271 Decatur Deb

Word. I don’t think that’s why they get so much attention but your point is correct and still stands.

They can run harder and do better to catch up. We can’t retreat to meet them, that type of favoritism helped get us here.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:42:53pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:44:05pm

re: #279 JordanRules

Word. I don’t think that’s why they get so much attention but your point is correct and still stands.

They can run harder and do better to catch up. We can’t retreat to meet them, that type of favoritism helped get us here.

We don’t change our fundamentals, but justice for Labor has always been one of our fundamentals. Ignore the hopelessly deplorable, but spare some effort for the mushy middle. If we drive them off, they will find some place to go. That sets back real-life progress by a generation.

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KerFuFFler  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:44:32pm

I wonder if any of the truckers that Trump met with today know just how much empathy his SCOTUS pick, Gorsuch, has for truckers. His absurdly vile dissent supported the right of the company to fire a trucker for leaving the trailer of his truck behind because the brakes were frozen and he was justifiably afraid of freezing to death. He waited for hours before leaving the truck!

I sure hope that story gets more attention———-the Teamsters should strike until Gorsuch is rejected.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:48:41pm

re: #190 mmmirele

Since the Senate voted to make it OK for ISPs to sell our browsing history, I’m looking at a VPN. Does anyone have any suggestions?

I’m actually looking at this as a way to circumvent the No Call List (which is already being abused).

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:48:48pm

re: #281 Decatur Deb

No arguments here, labor is so important. My existence sometimes drives them off so others who may be better positioned to convince them might have to run that route. Just don’t let them pull us all back.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:57:45pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Yeah there are certain principles I have that I don’t believe we should compromise. The ones you bring up are big ones. And you’re right. Compromise involves the other side giving something up too. I haven’t seen any desire for that. I’m not going to want to play nice with them until they acknowledge that my women, minority, LGBT, friends and family should have the same rights as they do. Until then, I’m just not in the mood.

The biggest problem I see in finding compromises is that one side believes in government by compromise, and the other doesn’t. I won’t bother trying to find the evidence, but I’ve seen a number of polls where they ask people what is important for them in an elected official, and while compromise is high on the list for Democrats, Republicans are far more likely to say ‘stands up for his principles no matter what’.

You see this reflected in the absolutist nature of the people elected by the GOP these days. Why was Boehner so widely despised, especially in his own party? Because he was an old-style dealmaker, leading a caucus of people who think the only good deal is one that leaves the other guy bleeding on the floor. There was a tweet today about the discussions with the HFC on getting the AHCA passed - they keep moving the goalposts. You move toward their position, and they move their position farther away.

I’ve said it before - they’re binary thinkers. Good or Evil. Why would you compromise with Evil? Win or Lose. If you don’t Win, you Lose, so to compromise is to be defeated.

So, it’s not just how far apart our positions are. We can’t even agree that compromise is a good thing.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:58:34pm

I KNEW IT! You fuckers all ran off upstairs before I hit “Post It”!

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meteor  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:14:16pm

re: #2 JordanRules

Squee!!

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retired cynic  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:15:33pm

re: #282 KerFuFFler

I wonder if any of the truckers that Trump met with today know just how much empathy his SCOTUS pick, Gorsuch, has for truckers. His absurdly vile dissent supported the right of the company to fire a trucker for leaving the trailer of his truck behind because the brakes were frozen and he was justifiably afraid of freezing to death. He waited for hours before leaving the truck!

I sure hope that story gets more attention———-the Teamsters should strike until Gorsuch is rejected.

I have a man near here that I love like a son, and he has been a long distance truck driver. I don’t think he voted in 2016, but I would not be surprised if he would have voted for Trump. So today we met and it was cold out, and I mentioned that case, and the trucker. He said it was impossible to stay with the trailer, and it sounded like a lawsuit if the trucker was fired. I told him it was, and that a panel of judges had sided with the trucker, except for one: Gorsuch. (My auto-correct turns Gorsuch into Grouch!) He hooted at that, and that Gorsuch was still claiming that he didn’t know what he would have done.

The way I have handled things with people around here that I know are conservative: they know I am liberal, and we talk about things we agree on, and occasionally I drop something like this, hoping to drip drip drip things that slowly make them open their minds a bit. The real young’uns tend to see through the crap better than some of the adults, and I encourage them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:18:18pm

re: #257 allegro

Once again you quote something to me that I have already read. My reading comprehension is just fine, thank you. And once again, he is not at all demonstrating that compromise - his entire stated point of his articles - is what he’s even talking about in the end. It is about empathy and education.

ah…the sweet smell of liberalsplaining in the evening…doncha love it?

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EPR-radar  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:42:14pm

re: #262 Stanley Sea

Shorter Nunes: “I wanted to be Trump’s testicle cozy.”

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fern01  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:56:22pm

re: #48 thedopefishlives

Pretty much everyone who has passed through the doors of the White House has emerged with serious signs of aging. It’s not for the faint of heart or the ill of health. But let’s not forget, Drumpf is the healthiest president EVER.

Usually takes a little longer than 60 days to show up.


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