Olbermann on Trump’s Trip to Texas: “Utter Blindness and Deafness to Human Suffering”
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The president’s response to this natural disaster was its own disaster.
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Evangelicals: Harvey hit Houston because of LGBT rights
San Fransisco: Never hit by a hurricane
Game. Set. Match.— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 30, 2017
House Republicans looking at cutting almost $1 billion from disaster accounts to help finance Trump border wall: https://t.co/Rko4wJaJSu
— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) August 30, 2017
House Republicans looking at cutting almost $1 billion from disaster accounts to help finance Trump border wall: https://t.co/Rko4wJaJSu
— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) August 30, 2017
Classic GOP. Cutting vital disaster assistance to finance an imaginary xenophobic boondoggle. https://t.co/3etZMTR9xp
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 30, 2017
re: #1 Kragar
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Do Evangelicals have an explanation why Evangelical friendly Kansas is in Tornado Alley?
re: #3 Charles Johnson
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You can’t say the bastards aren’t predictable. This is just so pathetically heartless. The Dems need to raise Holy Hell over this.
The current GOP, Trump, and evangelicals like Osteen all miss the same bit of humanity - the ability to have and show compassion towards others.
This is by design. Years of indoctrination have taken their toll, and we went from compassionate conservatism under Bush to this current shit show where the idea is to burn down or sabotage functioning govt and send the proceeds to millionaires while everyone suffers from the burdens.
Osteen couldn’t be bothered to open his megachurch to flood victims because he needed to be told or get permission from others. Heck, there were furniture stores with far less room and capabilities that have done more and did more faster than Osteen with no prodding from anyone else. Osteen was shamed into action, and even now he’s lying his ass off to try and save face.
Trump, Abbott and the rest of the GOP are trying to show that they care, but we have seen what they’ve done. They’ve all sought to gut funding to the very programs they’re relying on to provide assistance to victims: FEMA, NFIP, USCG, etc., and the amounts available so far are a pittance compared to what will be needed to rebuild (if rebuilding should be done considering the sprawling nature of the disaster - and how sprawl itself contributed).
You wont see Trump hug a victim. Heck, he was in Texas and couldn’t even bring himself to identify any of the victims or commiserate with the victims. He thought this was a campaign stop and that waving a flag was sufficient.
He actually waved a flag.
That’s leadership? He didn’t get his hands dirty. He didn’t try to comfort the inconsolable who have lost everything to this storm. He didn’t pass out food/water to people in dire need.
What he did was fly around Texas and delay disaster response because assets/resources had to move to accommodate him - not the other way around.
re: #3 Charles Johnson
Great coordination across all governments! Historic! Great crowds! Thanks!
re: #2 Kragar
Trump’s wall is vaporware and is being “paid for” by taking from existing safety net programs, or USCG or FEMA or NFIP funding.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 30, 2017
After witnessing first hand the horror & devastation caused by Hurricane Harvey,my heart goes out even more so to the great people of Texas!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 30, 2017
I traveled with the President yesterday. Personally, I would not claim to have seen Harvey’s horror and devastation first hand. https://t.co/Zb7bsF5CW5
— Andrew Beatty (@AndrewBeatty) August 30, 2017
re: #4 HappyWarrior
Do Evangelicals have an explanation why Evangelical friendly Kansas is in Tornado Alley?
Too many Methodists.
re: #9 Charles Johnson
The horror, from Donald’s POV, is that us Texans don’t have Trump genes.
re: #9 Charles Johnson
After witnessing first hand the horror & devastation caused by Hurricane Harvey,my heart goes out even more so to the great people of Texas!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 30, 2017
Our reporting does not match claim that @POTUS witnessed any horror or devastation first hand. #harvey https://t.co/KP4ejyLVpF @dallasnews https://t.co/HBObIh9Tgt
— Todd J. Gillman (@toddgillman) August 30, 2017
re: #9 Charles Johnson
Hey, he flew over in a helicopter
Meanwhile, instead of listening to people like Gen. Honore, who was instrumental in helping NOLA recover from the damage after Katrina, Trump and Abbott are acting as though things are under control (they aren’t).
Here he is two days ago. Same thing he said on Friday to CNN https://t.co/fKMv8ub3vS
— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) August 30, 2017
re: #9 Charles Johnson
If a wall could be built of bullshit, he could stop the White Walkers single-handed.
re: #15 lawhawk
Meanwhile, instead of listening to people like Gen. Honore, who was instrumental in helping NOLA recover from the damage after Katrina, Trump and Abbott are acting as though things are under control (they aren’t).
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I am old enough to remember when Rush Limbaugh was worshiping Honore as the greatest general of our time.
What a crowd! What a turnout!
Amazing group in Springfield! *The People’s Protest* 1000 or more! @IndivisibleTeam @sarahkendzior @jenesq2 @stltoday @DonGallowayKSDK pic.twitter.com/rfxlZeM4Ao
— Indivisible St.Louis (@indivisiblestl) August 30, 2017
re: #17 Timothy Watson
I am old enough to remember when Rush Limbaugh was worshiping Honore as the greatest general of our time.
Limbaugh will certainly change his tune now since Honore dared to criticize Trump and Abbott.
I guess we all need to feel silly.
Turns out Melania’s initial footwear choice was indeed reasonably appropriate for the planned presidential “disaster area” inspection tour.
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Trump peering into the Prompter to start. Will he stay on script here? Developing…
— John T. Bennett (@BennettJohnT) August 30, 2017
The replies are fun!
Imagine emergency Waffle House line cooks parachuting from C-130s in the middle of the night
— Vann R. Newkirk II (@fivefifths) August 30, 2017
re: #22 JordanRules
The replies are fun!
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The “Waffle House Index”:
The Waffle House Index is an informal metric used by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to determine the effect of a storm and the likely scale of assistance required for disaster recovery.[1]
“If you get there and the Waffle House is closed? That’s really bad. That’s when you go to work.”[2]
re: #23 Timothy Watson
I knew about the WHI but not their emergency squad! Waffle House should have a consulting arm. LOL
1/2 If Trump now makes noises that sound like empathy for Texans, please remember that he’s had a couple of days of harsh criticism for …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 30, 2017
2/2 his tone-deaf narcissistic comments. The sincerity of anything that seems empathetic at this point is highly questionable.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 30, 2017
re: #25 Charles Johnson
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And tomorrow he’ll backtrack anything he might say today.
Eric Trump says his father ‘tunes out’ criticism so he doesn’t commit suicide ‘out of depression’ https://t.co/ES0L5CG7t0
— (((DeanObeidallah))) (@Deanofcomedy) August 30, 2017
re: #25 Charles Johnson
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Even if he says the words written on the teleprompter, will it sound like empathy?
What are the odds on him saying that he’s handling this far better than Obama handled Katrina?
re: #28 Kragar
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If Chelsea Clinton said this about her mother……… Anyhow, Eric, your father chose to run for president. Harry Truman had a saying “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.” Meanwhile Abraham Lincoln suffered far worse criticism than your Father did and was handling a Civil War and losing a child and he didn’t complain at all the way your father does. So my advice is maybe your father isn’t cut out to be President. No shame in admitting that. I know I’m not.
re: #28 Kragar
I was a kid through the Reagan and GHW Bush administrations, so I’m not old enough to remember, but did they ever have their adult children constantly out defending them? I mean, I know they didn’t have their kids on the payroll a la Ivanka, but it seems like of Michael Reagan or GWB or Jeb had been on TV defending their fathers, it would have been a major deal, wouldn’t it?
re: #31 KGxvi
I was a kid through the Reagan and GHW Bush administrations, so I’m not old enough to remember, but did they ever have their adult children constantly out defending them? I mean, I know they didn’t have their kids on the payroll a la Ivanka, but it seems like of Michael Reagan or GWB or Jeb had been on TV defending their fathers, it would have been a major deal, wouldn’t it?
I don’t think so but I’m younger than you are.
re: #30 HappyWarrior
If Chelsea Clinton said this about her mother……… Anyhow, Eric, your father chose to run for president. Harry Truman had a saying “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.” Meanwhile Abraham Lincoln suffered far worse criticism than your Father did and was handling a Civil War and losing a child and he didn’t complain at all the way your father does. So my advice is maybe your father isn’t cut out to be President. No shame in admitting that. I know I’m not.
Also, we have 30+ years of Trump in the public eye taking every single slight - real or imagined, great or small - as personal. He still won’t let the tiny hands thing go, for fuck’s sake!
I just love how Trump is too sensitive but st the same time, his liberal critics are snowflakes and I’m sorry but Eric crying his Dad has Depression is a load of crap.
re: #4 HappyWarrior
Do Evangelicals have an explanation why Evangelical friendly Kansas is in Tornado Alley?
Gay people use Interstate 70 to drive through it.
re: #30 HappyWarrior
If Chelsea Clinton said this about her mother……… Anyhow, Eric, your father chose to run for president. Harry Truman had a saying “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.” Meanwhile Abraham Lincoln suffered far worse criticism than your Father did and was handling a Civil War and losing a child and he didn’t complain at all the way your father does. So my advice is maybe your father isn’t cut out to be President. No shame in admitting that. I know I’m not.
And while dealing with all those immediate issues… Lincoln still kept enough focus on the long-term to fund a transcontinental railroad and land-grant colleges. And, oh yeah, balanced the budget by raising taxes to pay for the war.
re: #25 Charles Johnson
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I’m listening to Trump on MSNBC. He sounds like he’s in a big closet with 1/2 doz. people who are trying to make as much applause as they can. Wish the camera would pan the audience so we could all see the big, big numbers there.
“Melania Trump’s stilettos aren’t insensitive — but using shoes to sow discord is” https://t.co/zBmvocavsF pic.twitter.com/keiwNTWpIR
— The Hill (@thehill) August 30, 2017
From the same conservatives who spent the previous 8 years viciously smearing and attacking Michelle Obama. https://t.co/agt45Wgktu
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 30, 2017
re: #37 sagehen
And while dealing with all those immediate issues… Lincoln still kept enough focus on the long-term to fund a transcontinental railroad and land-grant colleges.
And the Homestead Act. He really was a great man and president.
re: #31 KGxvi
I was a kid through the Reagan and GHW Bush administrations, so I’m not old enough to remember, but did they ever have their adult children constantly out defending them? I mean, I know they didn’t have their kids on the payroll a la Ivanka, but it seems like of Michael Reagan or GWB or Jeb had been on TV defending their fathers, it would have been a major deal, wouldn’t it?
Reagan’s kids publicly disapproved of his policies; Ron Jr and Patti were super-liberal. HW’s kids kept their mouths shut.
re: #39 Charles Johnson
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People who complained about Michele advocating better nutrition too.
I have a bad feeling about Port Arthur. There are still so many pleas for rescue coming in on social media right now.
Trump’s tax plan is wealth redistribution, taking money from the majority of the US and giving it to the 1% and Corporations
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 30, 2017
Trump is now attacking Dems, telling voters to oust McCaskill if she doesn’t support his plan.
This is an official WH event. Not campaign.— S.V. Dáte (@svdate) August 30, 2017
If we still abided by the rule of law, the RNC would have to reimburse taxpayers for this trip https://t.co/H9LgQAygIr
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) August 30, 2017
Show me where taxes are crushing corporations. Profits up. Taxes down. https://t.co/OACGjdU1Zd pic.twitter.com/Z2HJPV0vl8
— Harry Stein (@HarrySteinDC) August 30, 2017
re: #30 HappyWarrior
If Chelsea Clinton said this about her mother……… Anyhow, Eric, your father chose to run for president. Harry Truman had a saying “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.” Meanwhile Abraham Lincoln suffered far worse criticism than your Father did and was handling a Civil War and losing a child and he didn’t complain at all the way your father does. So my advice is maybe your father isn’t cut out to be President. No shame in admitting that. I know I’m not.
We saw his lack of ability to take criticism during the primaries.
He is a touch-me-not.
Along with the fact our President is an Asshole.
MSNBC provides important context as Trump reads a speech. pic.twitter.com/igP5qy5nbl
— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) August 30, 2017
Getting An Early Start On “Why Trump Failed”
Washington (CNN)National labor leader Richard Trumka said Wednesday that some White House aides “turned out to be racist” and said the Wall Street wing of President Donald Trump’s economic team is growing in influence.
“You had two factions in the White House,” the AFL-CIO president told reporters at a roundtable hosted by the Christian Science Monitor and confirmed in audio provided by Trumka’s office to CNN. “You had one faction that actually had some of the policies that we would have supported on trade and infrastructure but turned out to be racist.”
Trumka continued: “And on the other hand, you had people who weren’t racist, but they were Wall Street. And the Wall Streeters began to dominate the administration and have moved [Trump’s] agenda back to everything he fought against in the election.”
I can’t hang around much today you lucky devils, because I have to start making arrangements to get my car repaired after wrecking it last night coming home from the hospital hitting a deer. (Good news, I didn’t have to go back to the hospital.)
Idiots: Hurricane Harvey Caused By Lesbians Witches Katy Perry Abortion Illuminati And Democrats, But NOT CLIMATE CHANGE!!1! (Goes to Wonkette)
In which Rebecca and company put up quotes and videos from conservatives (synonymous with wingnuts) making all these claims.
Funny how if God is trying to warn the USA about Teh Geyh, or abortionplexes, or whatever their hair-on-fire complaint has been every week for all my fifty-seven years, he has singularly bad aim.
If I was a religious person and I believed natural disasters were a sign from a god over disapproval of some behaviour, I would have to conclude that God is trying to get the message through about the evils of conservatism, not Teh Geyh (French Quarter wasn’t flooded in Katrina), Katy Perry (she’s from Santa Barbara originally), or any of their other nonsense.
But I’m an atheist, so I can’t be expected to understand the inscrutable mind of God. /s
re: #52 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
Getting An Early Start On “Why Trump Failed”
Trumka continued: “And on the other hand, you had people who weren’t racist, but they were Wall Street. And the Wall Streeters began to dominate the administration and have moved [Trump’s] agenda back to everything he
foughtpretended to be against in the election.”
FTFY
re: #39 Charles Johnson
Liberals aren’t dragging Mrs. Trump over her shoe choices. She chose the correct shoes for her, considering she never was going anywhere near a place where those shoes would be inappropriate.
re: #31 KGxvi
I was a kid through the Reagan and GHW Bush administrations, so I’m not old enough to remember, but did they ever have their adult children constantly out defending them? I mean, I know they didn’t have their kids on the payroll a la Ivanka, but it seems like of Michael Reagan or GWB or Jeb had been on TV defending their fathers, it would have been a major deal, wouldn’t it?
Most news then was the nightly news from the major broadcasters. CNN was in it’s infancy and was much more newsy and much less talky. There would have been a lot less opportunity for that sort of thing to happen. I am sure if McCain had won his adult children would have been all over the airwaves, hell, they already are.
LOL
I triggered Bill Mitchell and then kept telling him I had meetings. pic.twitter.com/clgyHHw2t6
— Seth Rogen (@Sethrogen) August 30, 2017
re: #53 Anymouse 🌹
I can’t hang around much today you lucky devils, because I have to start making arrangements to get my car repaired after wrecking it last night coming home from the hospital hitting a deer. (Good news, I didn’t have to go back to the hospital.)
Idiots: Hurricane Harvey Caused By Lesbians Witches Katy Perry Abortion Illuminati And Democrats, But NOT CLIMATE CHANGE!!1! (Goes to Wonkette)
In which Rebecca and company put up quotes and videos from conservatives (synonymous with wingnuts) making all these claims.
Funny how if God is trying to warn the USA about Teh Geyh, or abortionplexes, or whatever their hair-on-fire complaint has been every week for all my fifty-seven years, he has singularly bad aim.
If I was a religious person and I believed natural disasters were a sign from a god over disapproval of some behaviour, I would have to conclude that God is trying to get the message through about the evils of conservatism, not Teh Geyh (French Quarter wasn’t flooded in Katrina), Katy Perry (she’s from Santa Barbara originally), or any of their other nonsense.
But I’m an atheist, so I can’t be expected to understand the inscrutable mind of God. /s
Glad your here to talk about that unfortunate deer strike. All too often they can result in loss of human life as well as their own. Hope the Smart car pulls thru ok as well.
re: #57 JordanRules
LOL
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Me thinks Bill doesn’t know that Seth is Canadian. But go ahead Bill, go ahead and conservexplain to a Jewish guy about how he doesn’t know who his enemies are.
Trump just said quarterly GDP growth under Obama never reached 3%. It was 4.5% Q2 2014, over 5% in Q3 2014. Over 3% in ‘13 & Q1, 2015
— Jonathan Weisman (@jonathanweisman) August 30, 2017
Wow, Astros going back home to play starting Saturday
We will be back at Minute Maid Park on Saturday with a doubleheader #ForHouston. pic.twitter.com/wKbfx64g5w
We’ve got old statutes (and statues, heh) in place that may make our slide into autocracy smoother.
Every Florida Democrat in Congress now wants @FLGovScott to call a special session to remove a Confederate statue: https://t.co/8ZyG65jTWK
— Alex Daugherty (@alextdaugherty) August 30, 2017
Florida still hasn’t taken down a Jim Crow law that blocks 1 in 4 black people from voting. https://t.co/fBzhCkwYRy
— Samuel Sinyangwe (@samswey) August 30, 2017
Is it just me or is anyone else having issues with loading new comments and the browser getting stuck waiting?
Fun fact: Regulations create more jobs than tax cuts.
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 30, 2017
re: #64 Teukka
Is it just me or is anyone else having issues with loading new comments and the browser getting stuck waiting?
OK here…
— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) August 30, 2017
re: #65 Kragar
Useless leeching government regulators taking our money!
Just called the car insurance company … they told me to call the car dealer in Denver … now on hold waiting to find out how to get my wrecked car there for repair.
re: #64 Teukka
Is it just me or is anyone else having issues with loading new comments and the browser getting stuck waiting?
Working fine for me. Usual remedy is to clear cache and restart browser.
re: #63 JordanRules
We’ve got old statutes (and statues, heh) in place that may make our slide into autocracy smoother.
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Replace it will a statue of Alexander Darnes, a former slave who became a doctor and was later mentor to James Weldon Johnson (future head of the NAACP). Darnes was almost certainly some relation to Smith as he was mixed-race and his mother was a domestic servant in the Smith household.
en.wikipedia.org
re: #70 Anymouse 🌹
Just called the car insurance company … they told me to call the car dealer in Denver … now on hold waiting to find out how to get my wrecked car there for repair.
I take it this was the Smart Car?
I’d like to get some credible crowd size numbers for that fake rally thing in MO.
re: #50 Charles Johnson
Trump testifying to Congress against Reagan tax cuts in 1991: https://t.co/te1hHVqa1s
— Anthony De Rosa 🗽 (@Anthony) August 30, 2017
I see Youtube changed their layouts again.
Just adding more whitespace over which we have to scroll.
There’s been for some time now a move to less information density on webpages.
Perhaps this is because young people don’t read printed books/newspapers much?
Russia……
— D. E. Todd (@DaveoutofAustin) August 30, 2017
re: #77 freetoken
Perhaps this is because
youngpeople don’t read printed books/newspapers much?
It could also be that the web allows much better spacing of information so you don’t have to stare at stuff so dense that you can’t grasp any of it. Unlike papers and books, the format isn’t fixed to physical limitation.
CEO of @Arkema_Inc says no way to prevent explosion at its Crosby, TX chemical plant because of massive flooding. #TexasFlood
— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) August 30, 2017
Chemicals in plant will degrade and lead to a fire or explosion within next 6 days, warns @Arkema_Inc CEO. https://t.co/Va5cv8eCsC
— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) August 30, 2017
re: #76 FormerDirtDart
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Like so many wingnuts, he was against Reagan before he was for Reagan.
re: #34 HappyWarrior
I just love how Trump is too sensitive but st the same time, his liberal critics are snowflakes and I’m sorry but Eric crying his Dad has Depression is a load of crap.
I miss that little span of time when we hadn’t heard from Eric or Junior. It was good.
Sec. Tillerson likes Trump’s tax plan. Does this mean I can ask State Dept about domestic policy now? pic.twitter.com/S1DJrvbCJk
— Dave Clark (@DaveClark_AFP) August 30, 2017
Why is the State Department talking about tax reform? https://t.co/92BcQuaFqX
— Nicholas Wadhams (@nwadhams) August 30, 2017
Interior Secretary just did too. Seems maybe the WH asked the Cabinet to back up the president? https://t.co/evHFmAreKp
— Josh Lederman (@joshledermanAP) August 30, 2017
re: #73 Timothy Watson
I take it this was the Smart Car?
Yup. Dealership says they don’t do wreck repairs, referred me to a shop in Arvada, that shop referred me to a shop in Sterling which is considerably closer (smaller tow charge), now on hold with them… .
WATCH: “We were just being precautious, but the main thing is the city didn’t ask us to become a shelter then.” -Pastor @JoelOsteen pic.twitter.com/Qdn5vgm09H
— TODAY (@TODAYshow) August 30, 2017
I spoke to the pres of the Islamic society of greater Houston yesterday. They weren’t asked to turn mosques into shelters, they just did it https://t.co/MEo5yRvmhq
— Anna Swartz (@Anna_Snackz) August 30, 2017
re: #28 Kragar
Eric Trump says his father ‘tunes out’ criticism so he doesn’t commit suicide ‘out of depression’ https://t.co/ES0L5CG7t0
— (((DeanObeidallah))) (@Deanofcomedy) August 30, 2017
So, what Eric’s saying is that his dad is emotionally stunted and can’t take any criticism because it’d reveal he’s a failure? https://t.co/poT6Q693qC
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 30, 2017
Has anyone seen this lost stuffed badger? Beloved animal slept w 6 yr old every night since infancy. Lost between @AmericanAir & garage. pic.twitter.com/P2uRlCMUaa
— Reagan Airport (@Reagan_Airport) August 30, 2017
re: #87 FormerDirtDart
Hell, they’re kinda talking about their own finances and business/grifting fortunes and are probably excited some of the humiliation they have to endure in this regime is about to finally be paid back.
re: #79 Belafon
If it was just say using slightly larger fonts and line spacings then it would be fine.
But the decline of information is not mere formatting.
The Youtube redesign appears more likely to be driven by spacing for small scrolling screens.
But other websites have been more detrimental. Note the changes that Google did to their News site. They removed some of their curated topics, for example.
WATCH: Lonely Confederate supporter tackled by Miami cops after attacking demonstrators https://t.co/33BnTQpsnM
— Raw Story (@RawStory) August 30, 2017
The sole counter protester against renaming confederate street signs gets cuff & detained after this… @WPLGLocal10 pic.twitter.com/zqmK4EUyNC
— Shyann Malone (@ShyannMalone) August 30, 2017
irks me to no end to hear you know who tout his purely aspirational record of 4% growth by flat out lying that obama never had a quarter of over 3% growth
there is lying, damn lying, statistics, and trump opening his mouth
The HHS Secretary just put out a statement calling for….tax reform pic.twitter.com/4MFwAF7eYq
— Peter Sullivan (@PeterSullivan4) August 30, 2017
I was just looking at a FB post from an especially obnoxious Moon landing denier and I said to myself, you know, I’ll bet she’s an anti-vaxxer too. I looked at her page and, sure enough, she is. This seems to be an unvarying pattern with ALL anti-science, they are either alt-health hucksters or dupes of alt-health hucksters. I also venture to say that the profits from this activity, with all the MLM snake oil included, far exceed anything “Big Pharma” makes from vaccines. Anyone with an ounce of sense would realize that a product taken once in a lifetime is a relatively small part of the industry’s business compared to meds they take every day.
re: #89 Kragar
“We were just being precautious
precautious, precocious, pretentious, disingenuous, or just too clever by half?
New from @Lubchansky: Trump wants the cops to have even more armored vehicles and assault rifles. Great. https://t.co/oT8RNtX93O pic.twitter.com/dAwmFV2BPo
— The Nib (@thenib) August 30, 2017
re: #99 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
I was just looking at a FB post from an especially obnoxious Moon landing denier and I said to myself, you know, I’ll bet she’s an anti-vaxxer too. I looked at her page and, sure enough, she is. This seems to be an unvarying pattern with ALL anti-science, they are either alt-health hucksters or dupes of alt-health hucksters. I also venture to say that the profits from this activity, with all the MLM snake oil included, far exceed anything “Big Pharma” makes from vaccines. Anyone with an ounce of sense would realize that a product taken once in a lifetime is a relatively small part of the industry’s business compared to meds they take every day.
it’s the old ‘crank magnetism’ again…
re: #101 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
“We were just being precautious
precautious, precocious, pretentious, disingenuous, or just too clever by half?
A very good strategery.
Just checked the current users and I see Allegro is logged in.
Hey Allegro…how are you doing?
I don’t think we’ve heard from you since Monday night.
re: #98 FormerDirtDart
It’s almost as if the POTUS send his cabinet the same set of talking points.
/
re: #101 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
“We were just being precautious
precautious, precocious, pretentious, disingenuous, or just too clever by half?
‘Half of one and six dozen of the other.’
re: #4 HappyWarrior
Do Evangelicals have an explanation why Evangelical friendly Kansas is in Tornado Alley?
Probably has to do with Judy Garland being a gay icon singing about rainbows.//
Rand Paul’s op-ed on tax reform doesn’t mention debt or deficit once, which is likely a preview of what’s to come: https://t.co/uosOBQY4aI pic.twitter.com/nx1ZCY1WPK
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) August 30, 2017
re: #110 FormerDirtDart
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In other words, every single world and drop of ink spilled the past 8 years about the deficit and debt were exactly what we all knew they were: TOTAL BULLSHIT!
re: #110 FormerDirtDart
“Who cares? The next Democratic administration can clean up the mess.”
re: #103 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
it’s the old ‘crank magnetism’ again…
I’ve been trying to figure out what to call profit motivated anti-science and conspira-lying. “Big Snake Oil” is a bit clumsy. I think we should call it “Big Crank.”
re: #112 Sir John Barron
“Who cares? The next Democratic administration can clean up the mess.”
and take the blame for it
Oh stop pretending this is about letting “families” keep more of their money. HALF OF AMERICANS DON’T PAY TAXES! This is for Wall Street.
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) August 30, 2017
Oh, damn……. https://t.co/L73hWHIgSK
— Jonathan Capehart (@CapehartJ) August 30, 2017
re: #96 FormerDirtDart
WATCH: Lonely Confederate supporter tackled by Miami cops after attacking demonstrators
proof of how white people will suffer before being genocided
re: #115 JordanRules
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GOP spends years bitching that millions of Americans don’t pay taxes and we need to “broaden the base” and ensure they have “skin in the game,” now the GOP wants to pass tax reform and suddenly all those folks need “tax relief.”
Just started the prep procedure for tomorrow’s colonoscopy if you need me I’ve built a fort in the bathroom. Pray for my butt America.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) August 30, 2017
She’s wrong though. Most Americans DO pay taxes.
re: #120 HappyWarrior
Exactly! She’s so full of shit.
re: #120 HappyWarrior
She’s wrong though. Most Americans DO pay taxes.
just not necessarily income taxes…
re: #89 Kragar
ABP. Always Be Precautioning.
re: #123 Sir John Barron
LOL My wingnazi translator is in the shop.
re: #103 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
re: #113 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
I’ve been trying to figure out what to call profit motivated anti-science and conspira-lying. “Big Snake Oil” is a bit clumsy. I think we should call it “Big Crank.”
Big Woo
re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
just not necessarily income taxes…
Right but that’s still a stupid thing to say.
re: #115 JordanRules
Oh stop pretending this is about letting “families” keep more of their money. HALF OF AMERICANS DON’T PAY TAXES! This is for Wall Street.
— Ann Coulter
Trump said not paying taxes showed how smart he was.
re: #126 goddamnedfrank
Look at you! Pulling different strands of this thread together like a champ!
A champ stuck in the restroom, but a champ nonetheless!
Wait, a LEGAL CHALLENGE to the president’s supposedly inviolate pardon power? Interesting! https://t.co/Yqw0KBWYWL
— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) August 30, 2017
While the Constitution’s pardon power is broad, it is not unlimited. Like all provisions of the original Constitution of 1787, it is limited by later-enacted amendments, starting with the Bill of Rights. For example, were a president to announce that he planned to pardon all white defendants convicted of a certain crime but not all black defendants, that would conflict with the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause.
Similarly, issuance of a pardon that violates the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause is also suspect. Under the Due Process Clause, no one in the United States (citizen or otherwise) may “be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” But for due process and judicial review to function, courts must be able to restrain government officials. Due process requires that, when a government official is found by a court to be violating individuals’ constitutional rights, the court can issue effective relief (such as an injunction) ordering the official to cease this unconstitutional conduct. And for an injunction to be effective, there must be a penalty for violation of the injunction—principally, contempt of court.
Put simply, the argument is that the president cannot obviate the court’s powers to enforce its orders when the constitutional rights of others are at stake.
re: #70 Anymouse 🌹
Just called the car insurance company … they told me to call the car dealer in Denver … now on hold waiting to find out how to get my wrecked car there for repair.
What happened? Are you/Mrs. Mouse OK??
*gag*
Listening to a coworker defending Joe Paterno while talking to another coworker.
There has been a swallow flying around in my shop for 4 hours. With the front door (the way it got in) open almost the whole time. I want to go home in about 4 hours. I hope it finds its way out.
The other wildlife problem I had, 2 vinegaroons, I took care of earlier. They were fighting over a hole in the brick wall, but I found they both preferred the cardboard box I laid before them. Big enough for two.
re: #135 Timothy Watson
*gag*
Listening to a coworker defending Joe Paterno while talking to another coworker.
Jeez.
Spider people are amazing!
God bless whoever was in this Spider-Man suit making the kids smile at the convention center pic.twitter.com/urVxrUrcfc
— EL FOOSAY (@SheHatesJacoby) August 30, 2017
re: #120 HappyWarrior
She’s wrong though. Most Americans DO pay taxes.
Americans pay taxes on pretty much everything. Sales taxes. Motor fuel taxes. Property taxes. Income taxes (even those who make minimum wage see taxes deducted). Medicare/SS tax (payroll tax).
A significant portion of people see refunds on the income (state and fed) taxes they pay because they’ve met the threshold for refunds and their income isn’t high enough.
But those people paid the tax in the first place and they basically gave the government an interest free loan to use that money during the year and then get it back in the form of a lump sum refund check.
Coulter, like the rest of the right wing, are absolutely lying about all this.
re: #111 Targetpractice
In other words, every single world and drop of ink spilled the past 8 years about the deficit and debt were exactly what we all knew they were: TOTAL BULLSHIT!
Borrowing trillions to help ordinary Americans is bad, because we need to borrow trillions in order to give it to billionaires. Don’t you understand that?
4 new AT eps are about to drop.
“The Wild Hunt” - A fierce creature is terrorizing the Candy Kingdom but before Finn can slay the beast, he must first overcome a guilty conscience.
“Always BMO Closing” - BMO and Ice King hit the road as door-to-door salesmen and stumble upon an irresistible opportunity.
“Son of Rap Bear” - When Flame Princess is coaxed into a high stakes battle against the indomitable Son of Rap Bear, Finn must help her search for a new strategy.
“Bonnibel Bubblegum” - A long lost artifact causes Princess Bubblegum to harken back to the creation of the Candy Kingdom.
re: #142 Big Beautiful Door
Her 2nd hand was still off.
OT: An article in the NYT about corruption in Mexico, top down.
re: #144 Timothy Watson
[sportsball]HE KNEW NOTHING!!1![/sportballs]
Really pathetic that canard is still going on.
re: #134 Jay C
What happened? Are you/Mrs. Mouse OK??
Coming home from the Cheyenne VA hospital last night, we hit a deer at sixty miles per hour three miles from home. (There were two, I missed the first and hit the second, smaller one.)
Fortunately, no injuries (other than the deer). Our car has considerable damage, but fortunately the expensive parts of a car (engine, drivetrain, &c) are all in the back of a Smart.
Just got off the phone (again) with the car repair shop in Sterling, Colo. after getting off the phone (again) with my insurance company. The repair shop is arranging a flat-bed truck to come to my home to pick up our car and take it to Sterling (about ninety miles).
The nearest auto body shop is in Bayard, Nebr. (about thirty), but they won’t repair a Smart. Our insurance will pay for a tow to the nearest shop that can do the work, which appears to be the shop in Sterling.
Our insurance will also pay $30 a day for a rental car, but the nearest rental agency is in Scottsbluff (sixty miles).
We’re waiting for the tow company in Colorado to call now to make arrangements to pick up our car, and the insurance adjuster to call to tell us how the payment will go down.
If the car only needs to be in Sterling a few days, we’ll probably just forego the rental car and sit at home. If this is going to be an extended wait, we’ll need another car until ours is fixed.
re: #140 Big Beautiful Door
Borrowing trillions to help ordinary Americans is bad, because we need to borrow trillions in order to give it to billionaires. Don’t you understand that?
“Don’t you get it?! The tax cuts will pay for themselves! Just look at the Bush Tax Cuts…wait, bad example.”
re: #143 Nyet
4 new AT eps are about to drop.
I gotta admit, I just don’t get the appeal of a lot of the current popular animation series. Adventure Time, Rick and Morty, Steven Universe.
I think it goes back to Dr. Katz. When did bad animation become cool?
Crank Magnetism and Big Woo marketing in action.
Caught this story from Right Wing Watch:
Dan Gainor: America-Hating Left May Soon Ban Bibles
Gainor is not himself a snake oil peddler. He is a wheel at the Media Research Center.
MRC’s sole mission is to expose and neutralize the propaganda arm of the Left: the national news media.
MRC’s own media arm is CNS News. As you might have guessed, it is inundated with ads for health supplements, magic fitness programs, dubious investment advice, and the like.
re: #151 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Caught this story from Right Wing Watch:
Dan Gainor: America-Hating Left May Soon Ban Bibles
Gainor is not himself a snake oil peddler. He is a wheel at the Media Research Center.
Sex, violence, genocide, infanticide…in any other book warrants a good burning.
re: #151 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Crank Magnetism and Big Woo marketing in action.
Caught this story from Right Wing Watch:
Dan Gainor: America-Hating Left May Soon Ban Bibles
Gainor is not himself a snake oil peddler. He is a wheel at the Media Research Center.MRC’s own media arm is CNS News. As you might have guessed, it is inundated with ads for health supplements, magic fitness programs, dubious investment advice, and the like.
We *may*, *soon*, ban Bibles? “May”? Sounds kind of iffy then. And what the “soon” business? If we didn’t get it done during Obama’s kingship not sure we can get it done now.
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re: #143 Nyet
4 new AT eps are about to drop.
When? This is the most important news of the past few weeks! ///
re: #151 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Crank Magnetism and Big Woo marketing in action.
Caught this story from Right Wing Watch:
Dan Gainor: America-Hating Left May Soon Ban Bibles
Gainor is not himself a snake oil peddler. He is a wheel at the Media Research Center.MRC’s own media arm is CNS News. As you might have guessed, it is inundated with ads for health supplements, magic fitness programs, dubious investment advice, and the like.
Okay, idiot, first off, we’re the minority party in most state legislatures and when we were the majority party in state legislatures, we didn’t try to do this. I get it though. You’re so insecure with your own religious beliefs that you have to make up lies about liberals trying to ban Bibles when ironically enough you’d be just fine banning Islam and the Quran.
re: #146 retired cynic
OT: An article in the NYT about corruption in Mexico, top down.
Corruption and impunity. If you don’t talk about those in Mexico. you don’t talk about Mexico.
re: #155 HappyWarrior
Okay, idiot, first off, we’re the minority party in most state legislatures and when we were the majority party in state legislatures, we didn’t try to do this. I get it though. You’re so insecure with your own religious beliefs that you have to make up lies about liberals trying to ban Bibles when ironically enough you’d be just fine banning Islam and the Quran.
Like the NRA, the MRC can’t function without constantly scaring up the rubes.
re: #153 Sir John Barron
We *may*, *soon*, ban Bibles? “May”? Sounds kind of iffy then. And what the “soon” business? If we didn’t get it done during Obama’s kingship not sure we can get it done now.
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Just like how we were going to ban guns in Carter Bill Clinton and Obama’s presidencies. Conservatives can’t win on ideas so they resort to pathetic lies like this to get people riled up and voting for a party that only cares about coddling the very wealthy.
re: #150 danarchy
Its not about the animation, its the story.
If you don’t tear up watching the Ice King/Marceline story, you literally don’t have a soul.
re: #157 Sir John Barron
Like the NRA, the MRC can’t function without constantly scaring up the rubes.
Yep gottak keep em scared and donating.
re: #150 danarchy
I gotta admit, I just don’t get the appeal of a lot of the current popular animation series. Adventure Time, Rick and Morty, Steven Universe.
I think it goes back to Dr. Katz. When did bad animation become cool?
1. Have you seen the early parts of The Simpsons?
2. What do you consider “good” animation?
3. The animation style in Adventure Time is part of the story.
Hiya! We’re here. We’re fine. Much appreciate the concern!
Been doing critter rescue since I could get out yesterday. Actually the tail end (no pun intended) of rescue and that is getting critters reunited with families if possible and the others into foster homes until… Shelters are over-whelmed. Home now and out of the shower (OMG that was heavenly) after delivering my last dog to a foster home.
re: #153 Sir John Barron
We *may*, *soon*, ban Bibles? “May”? Sounds kind of iffy then. And what the “soon” business? If we didn’t get it done during Obama’s kingship not sure we can get it done now.
///
Conservatives have to be kept at outrage level eleven to keep them interested in voting for wealthcare for billionaires.
Anti-communism, abortion, gay rights, same-sex marriage, anti-contraception, all this is due to the liberal geyh peril. I’ve never seen anything different in my lifetime.
When they have nothing to hold against liberals, they make shit up (liberals are coming for guns, liberals want to outlaw religion, liberals are coming for Bibles, liberals want to impose Sharia Law, liberals want to overrun the country with immigrants, &c).
The defining characteristics of Movement Conservatism are fear and hate. They always have been.
re: #151 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Dan Gainor: America-Hating Left May Soon Ban Bibles
can’t be correct cuz i read in books on american presidential campaigns that that deist atheist thomas jefferson wuz gonna confiscate all yer bibles whan he gots elected
re: #159 Kragar
Its not about the animation, its the story.
If you don’t tear up watching the Ice King/Marceline story, you literally don’t have a soul.
If I don’t watch any AT at all what happens to my soul?
re: #167 ObserverArt
You have a place which you never knew was empty
re: #167 ObserverArt
If I don’t watch any AT at all what happens to my soul?
You become Ice King’s penguin.
My brother-in-law is on the phone now, he is at home in Alvin, TX having his house inspected for repair.
His Mazda was destroyed in the flood. His Thunderbird seems only to have a bad voltage regulator.
A flooded Texas chemical plant is about to explode https://t.co/Q7tZn63tG9 pic.twitter.com/A9BeMY10kn
— VICE News (@vicenews) August 30, 2017
So is my butt.
The towing company just called, they’re already on the way to my house.
re: #176 Anymouse 🌹
The towing company just called, they’re already on the way to my house.
You should have arranged to get a rental car delivered on a roll-back truck, and then you could have driven it back to pick up your car when finished.
re: #175 goddamnedfrank
[A flooded Texas chemical plant is about to explode]
So is my butt.
You mean California is under a similar threat?
re: #174 Anymouse 🌹
My brother-in-law is on the phone now, he is at home in Alvin, TX having his house inspected for repair.
His Mazda was destroyed in the flood. His Thunderbird seems only to have a bad voltage regulator.
There’s a (old) Top Gear/Grand Tour joke in there somewhere.
Obligatory video:
re: #173 Nyet
South Park. *mic drop*
This may or may not be an urban legend. Years ago when South Park debuted, a reviewer in the Globe and Mail (or maybe it was the Toronto Star) said it was all “fart jokes and shitty animation.”
Matt and Trey were like all “We’ll show you some fart jokes and shitty animation!” and thus began their portrayal of Canadians.
re: #176 Anymouse 🌹
The towing company just called, they’re already on the way to my house.
boopsie the russian has trouble with “tow” and “crow” despite her nearly 20 yrs in the u.s.:
cow
now
wow
how
tow
crow
it’s all very logical…
re: #184 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
boopsie the russian has trouble with “tow” and “crow” despite her nearly 20 yrs in the u.s.:
cow
now
wow
how
tow
crowit’s all very logical…
You show her how! Don’t be so slow!
re: #177 ObserverArt
You should have arranged to get a rental car delivered on a roll-back truck, and then you could have driven it back to pick up your car when finished.
Didn’t think of that before they left. We’ll have to see how long this is going to take … if I have to get a rental car I can probably pay someone to take me to Sterling to rent one, then use that to get my car back later.
I’m going log off for now … catch y’all later.
re: #148 Anymouse 🌹
Coming home from the Cheyenne VA hospital last night, we hit a deer at sixty miles per hour three miles from home. (There were two, I missed the first and hit the second, smaller one.)
Y’know, venison from a road-kill deer is just as tasty as from a shot deer…
re: #163 Belafon
1. Have you seen the early parts of The Simpsons?
2. What do you consider “good” animation?
3. The animation style in Adventure Time is part of the story.
The early Simpsons from like the Tracey Ulman show were an abomination. It is a miracle they caught on.
Good animation? Avatar the last airbender, any of the DC animated series. Really just anything where the animation doesn’t look like it was done by a toddler with the shakes because he drank too much red bull.
Futurama, venture bros, archer…just anything that doesn’t look like a doodle I did in math class.
re: #192 sagehen
Y’know, venison from a road-kill deer is just as tasty as from a shot deer…
FRESHLY roadkilled, yeah. OTOH, it’s entirely possible to mistreat hunted venison so that it tastes like bad roadkilled.
re: #192 sagehen
Y’know, venison from a road-kill deer is just as tasty as from a shot deer…
Umm, depends! And if your car is towed away, you probably can’t ask them to also load up the carcass. :^P
the irony of somebody who refuses to release their taxes touting tax “reform” that they don’t understand…
re: #143 Nyet
I can’t wait. That show is awesome.
re: #6 lawhawk
Trump didn’t even acknowledge in any way (and still hasn’t!) the death of HPD Sgt. Steve Perez. Killed Sunday when he drove into flood waters while on duty trying to help and protect his community.
re: #135 Timothy Watson
*gag*
Listening to a coworker defending Joe Paterno while talking to another coworker.
Along with the GOP boot worship I am surrounded with, there’s that. Joe never knew. Joe had no idea. Yeah. And I’m an astronaut. That will be argued for ever. Nothing got by Joe. Not. One. Thing. He was told about Jerry. There was money paid to keep families quiet. But never Joe. Nope. Joe didn’t want to know. Wanted someone else to make it go away. have someone else act. But in the end Joe Paterno was a coward. He had the biggest stick in Happy Valley and he looked away. He threw all them years and all that legacy and all that fantasy into a burn barrel and lit it. And the stink is still in the air. I sat in a car with a denier a few years back outside the Bryce Jordan Center. The new ice hockey rink was across the street and Beaver Stadium was lit up on the hill. I said, “See this? See all this? This is power. This can stomp you into the ground. You come forward with shit like Jerry and they will cause you to lose your job. You will be shunned. And this valley is all you have. Think about that. Some local lawyer going to touch you?” Some of those first kids who can forth were threatened. Their moms were threatened. Jerry went to schools all over that part of the state. His legacy still haunts State College.
re: #198 Ace Rothstein
Trump didn’t even acknowledge in any way (and still hasn’t!) the death of HPD Sgt. Steve Perez. Killed Sunday when he drove into flood waters while on duty trying to help and protect his community.
Hmm. Does anyone think it may have to do with the policeman’s last name?
No, I’m sure it couldn’t be that…
re: #195 retired cynic
Umm, depends! And if your car is towed away, you probably can’t ask them to also load up the carcass. :^P
The first time deer and my car were, as they say, ‘coincident in space/time’, it just happened to be the first day of deer season. So, the State Trooper who showed up, looks down where the dead deer was lying, and says, “Looks like you got yer deer!”
No. Just no.
This Kickstarter wants to animate Obama and Biden’s bromance https://t.co/NEOnAT6Mwj pic.twitter.com/LLjIuJRhXI
— HuffPost (@HuffPost) August 30, 2017
re: #150 danarchy
I gotta admit, I just don’t get the appeal of a lot of the current popular animation series. Adventure Time, Rick and Morty, Steven Universe.
I think it goes back to Dr. Katz. When did bad animation become cool?
I don’t mind the style of animation & I find Adventure Time interesting in many ways. The Ice King’s story is a glorious tragedy unlike much else in western animation.
But Rick & Morty? I despise that nihilistic & solipsistic take on existentialism and really can’t wait till that crap is off the air.
re: #180 goddamnedfrank
My bathroom definitely is.
I read a Dave Barry column years ago before my second colonoscopy. In it, he recommended the stuff they make you drink for a colonoscopy as a mixer for vodka. I’ve now done that three times. It works and I will be doing it again in November.
re: #159 Kragar
Its not about the animation, its the story.
If you don’t tear up watching the Ice King/Marceline story, you literally don’t have a soul.
Yes, it is the story, but I really like the art and animation in Adventure Time.
100% concur about the Ice King/Marceline story. It is an ongoing tragedy for Marceline to know Ice King used to be Simon.
re: #204 William Lewis
I don’t mind the style of animation & I find Adventure Time interesting in many ways. The Ice King’s story is a glorious tragedy unlike much else in western animation.
But Rick & Morty? I despise that nihilistic & solipsistic take on existentialism and really can’t wait till that crap is off the air.
Or, you know, don’t watch. Some of us enjoy nihilistic, solipsistic takes on existentialism.
re: #198 Ace Rothstein
Trump didn’t even acknowledge in any way (and still hasn’t!) the death of HPD Sgt. Steve Perez. Killed Sunday when he drove into flood waters while on duty trying to help and protect his community.
Of course not. It will go against the Republicans “bad hombres” talking point about hispanics.
re: #199 nines09
I grew up in Western PA. I know there were plenty of Sandusky types who forced themselves on kids and got away with it.
I
Love
The
Tie
Brutal cartoon from @BrookesTimes. pic.twitter.com/un7ORu7uLW
— Frank Underwood (@FrankUnderwocd) August 30, 2017
Has anyone seen the recent cover of Charlie Hebdo regarding Hurricane Harvey?
re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White
Or, you know, don’t watch. Some of us enjoy nihilistic, solipsistic takes on existentialism.
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Heh. I know The Absurd quite well. The Myth of Sisyphus was the first formal work of philosophy I read. Absurdity is a far better outlook on life than whatever it is they’re trying to say in R&M for at least “One must imagine Sisyphus happy” while only one person on that show has any chance at even an absurd life and that’s only if she runs away before her grandfather destroys her life too. Morty is already as lost a cause as Rich, Beth & Jerry.
Why do I know so much about a show I dislike so intensely? Because my son watches it and I have to spend a lot of time fixing the damage it causes his life. Given his mental health issues, that’s not a small thing.
I still love Counselor Troi.
When nazis held a “Pro-America” rally in Madison Square Garden in 1939, the US press focused on the “violent” “anti-nazi” protesters pic.twitter.com/20WXWZw0oR
— Thal ❤ (@thalestral) August 29, 2017
Ring a bell??????? https://t.co/7f4H3n5XxR
— Marina Sirtis (@Marina_Sirtis) August 30, 2017
Just to make sure this is not missed: Federal court tells Trump administration: You violated the law. pic.twitter.com/2mjhvIOCBM
— Eric Lipton (@EricLiptonNYT) August 30, 2017
re: #175 goddamnedfrank
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So is my butt.
Oh goody. “An arse like a dragon’s nostril”
re: #215 bratwurst
I still love Counselor Troi.
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They were trying the same thing they are now. Too combine Nazism and Americanism.
Attn Jews who voted for Trump because of Jared & Ivanka: You own this this.
Trump to appoint Fred Malek, who counted Jews for Nixon, as head of think tank board https://t.co/Q9sSUB9ozl pic.twitter.com/Htgea4IpLS
— JTA | Jewish news (@JTAnews) August 30, 2017
re: #219 The Vicious Babushka
Attn Jews who voted for Trump because of Jared & Ivanka: You own this this.
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He’s a dog torturer too.
re: #199 nines09
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re: #126 goddamnedfrank
On the other hand very soon I won’t be.
When I went through that, I was sick enough with colitis that the colonoscopy prep was somewhere between ‘nothing burger’ and ‘blessed relief’.
I had wondered about the cat!https://t.co/PaiiOHiOg4 pic.twitter.com/l9ZPzbxLJb
— andrew kaczynski 🤔 (@KFILE) August 30, 2017
Starting at 6pm tonight, thousands of ppl in NYC will march to Trump Tower to protect DACA, @altochulo sayshttps://t.co/eXFaDCwV0j
— Jeff Stein (@JStein_Vox) August 30, 2017
re: #195 retired cynic
Umm, depends! And if your car is towed away, you probably can’t ask them to also load up the carcass. :^P
Also: Anymouse drives a Smart: not a lot of room to truss up a deer - even if it was going home with him, rather than the garage….
(Maybe the garage guys would appreciate some venison…?)
Orwell devoted his life to fighting people like Paul Joseph Watson, with both words an actions.
— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) August 30, 2017
re: #226 gocart mozart
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Yeah Paul so hateful unlike your Nazi friends who actually want genocide.
Look at the way Trump undermines and destroys Ivanka’s credibility daily and then remember that she’s his favorite child.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) August 30, 2017
An entire family co-dependently tied to this malignantly abusive asshole through the combination of sheer craven greed and fear of being disinherited.
re: #224 JordanRules
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Obama gets criticized from the purer than thou about his immigration record, ignoring who implemented DACA.
re: #157 Sir John Barron
Like the NRA, the MRC can’t function without constantly scaring up the rubes.
Hey, a while back, Bryan Fischer’s mother-ship parent organization, American Family Association predicted that cities with a name from the Bible such as St. Petersburg, Bethlehem, etc. will be forced to change their name due to separation of church and state.
re: #229 HappyWarrior
Uhhhh, he was Preznit during Katrina not DACA!!! ////
re: #211 Joe Bacon 🌹
They are always there, always were there and always will be there. MHO is these guys are known to others. They are not reported for a thousand reasons. Kids don’t come forward for a thousand reasons. But the likes of a Jerry Sandusky and a Joe Paterno and decades of working together….And Joe never saw a crumb? Jerry walking around with a huge loaf of bread, and Joe never saw a crumb? No. Jerry could have gone to his choice of University and made millions. Everybody said he quit at PSU because he loved PSU and the only way Joe was not coach was him dying. SO St Jerry turns down millions to stay with his “charity” and that went on and on…..Jerry stayed at his Happy Hunting Grounds where he had support and cover and keys to the Kingdom. And fresh poor boys who will be impressed with trips and rides and hotels and stadiums. All I want is for some of the “Joe Never” crowd to do is face the facts. Joe cannot be that naive, and Joe cannot be that innocent if he is Joe Fucking Paterno.
re: #228 goddamnedfrank
I do wonder what their mother, Ivana, thinks of all this.
re: #226 gocart mozart
He’s rolling over in his grave so you can kiss his ass.
— efuseakay (@efuseakay) August 30, 2017
re: #150 danarchy
You besmirch the name of Rick and Morty good sir!
Those be dueling words.
Rick and Morty is the best animated show currently running.
wubalubadubdub
re: #237 CongoJack
You besmirch the name of Rick and Morty good sir!
Those be dueling words.
Rick and Morty is the best animated show currently running.
wubalubadubdub
Only because Adventure Time, Steven Universe, and Star vs. the Forces of Evil are off the schedule right now.
re: #235 JordanRules
I do wonder what their mother, Ivana, thinks of all this.
She has an iron clad NDA. Plus I think she’s kinda broke.
re: #240 Stanley Sea
I figured money may be in the mix somehow.
re: #239 Belafon
Adventure time can be in 2nd place (also love the gender swapping of characters - side note).
I will give you Steven Universe has been better the longer it goes (the early episodes were meh imo).
Star vs. the Forces of Evil I need to watch - been busy with a pregnant wife.
And I’ll add Mike Tyson Mysteries (for absurdity) and Bob’s Burgers/Archer (for “normal” watching).
I’m a cartoon person.
re: #219 The Vicious Babushka
Attn Jews who voted for Trump because of Jared & Ivanka: You own this this.
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Also a big Sarah Palin guy back in the day. (and let’s not forget about the roasted dog)
Every year or so, poor old Fred Malek, the GOP fundraiser, has to suffer through a callback to his youthful indiscretions, like that one crazy time in his twenties that he and his friends were caught drunkenly barbecuing a dog on a spit, or the wacky moment in his thirties when he counted the Jews in the Bureau of Labor Statistics so President Nixon could demote them, or the hilarious time in his sixties when the Securities and Exchange Commissioned ordered him to personally pay a $100,000 fine for allegedly using taxpayer funds to reward a political supporter.
re: #244 BeachDem
Also a big Sarah Palin guy back in the day. (and let’s not forget about the roasted dog)
Every year or so, poor old Fred Malek, the GOP fundraiser, has to suffer through a callback to his youthful indiscretions, like that one crazy time in his twenties that he and his friends were caught drunkenly barbecuing a dog on a spit, or the wacky moment in his thirties when he counted the Jews in the Bureau of Labor Statistics so President Nixon could demote them, or the hilarious time in his sixties when the Securities and Exchange Commissioned ordered him to personally pay a $100,000 fine for allegedly using taxpayer funds to reward a political supporter.
Yep I brought up the dog too. Sick shit.
Still going…LOL
Bill Mitchell can’t stop. Neither can I. pic.twitter.com/usLNifxRtr
— Seth Rogen (@Sethrogen) August 30, 2017
The hilarious part about @Sethrogen lying about “being in meetings,” is that he actually ISN’T in meetings - at all. Think about that.
— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) August 30, 2017
Sorry dude, in a meeting. https://t.co/e5GvUb8JyX
— Seth Rogen (@Sethrogen) August 30, 2017
re: #228 goddamnedfrank
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An entire family co-dependently tied to this malignantly abusive asshole through the combination of sheer craven greed and fear of being disinherited.
When exactly did Ivanka have any credibility?
re: #205 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)
I read a Dave Barry column years ago before my second colonoscopy. In it, he recommended the stuff they make you drink for a colonoscopy as a mixer for vodka. I’ve now done that three times. It works and I will be doing it again in November.
Put that in the next volume of the LGF cookbook.
re: #246 JordanRules
Still going…LOL
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re: #245 HappyWarrior
Yep I brought up the dog too. Sick shit.
Did they eat the dog? If so, fair dinkums.
re: #239 Belafon
Only because Adventure Time, Steven Universe, and Star vs. the Forces of Evil are off the schedule right now.
Steven Universe doesn’t have a schedule, just “Whenever the fuck we feel like!”
re: #234 nines09
The sad truth is that the Official Religion in Western PA is Football.
re: #185 goddamnedfrank
It’s colonoscopy prep day.
YAY!!!
That was yesterday for me. Procedure went ok this morning. Good luck.
re: #252 Joe Bacon 🌹
The sad truth is that the Official Religion in Western PA is Football.
Alabama is the Vatican, Texas is Jerusalem.
Soon … pic.twitter.com/8q0QvSDphZ
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) August 30, 2017
re: #240 Stanley Sea
re: #242 JordanRules
re: #242 JordanRules
Yes: funny, isn’t it: that neither of the Former Mrs. Trumps have (AFAICT) said much of anything for publication since the Mr. started campaigning. They must really be being paid under the Mencken Plan…
Fun Fact: Ivanka was named after her mother: her legal name is “Ivana Marie Trump”: “Ivanka” is the Czech diminutive she’s been know by her whole life….
It’s the Daily Fail but it’s pretty good anyway and, more importantly, completely consistent with what we see elsewhere. Lowlight: Jim seemed to suggest that the Sun might not come back after the eclipse. I guess he doesn’t include solar panels among his prepper swag.
EXCLUSIVE: Inside Jim Bakker’s Missouri town prepping for the nuclear Apocalypse and ECLIPSE fallout -
where people come to stock up on freeze-dried meals and idolize the TV preacher who was jailed for fraud and accused of rape
Televangelist Jim Bakker profits off his doomsday message of the impending Apocalypse by selling freeze-dried meals to keep his followers alive
dailymail.com visited his Christian community Morningside in Blue Eye, Missouri where Bakker and his wife film their TV program and sell their survival buckets
A year’s supply of pancakes with a 30-year shelf life costs $550 dollars and a 102 servings of freeze fried Italian food costs $392
Morningside looks similar to a theme park, featuring a brightly painted indoor town square dominated by a 15ft tall Jesus statue
re: #255 goddamnedfrank
You’ll do, just fine, buddy.
re: #257 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
A year’s supply of pancakes with a 30-year shelf life
Wow: talk about the “Horrors Of The Apocalypse”!
re: #256 Jay C
Ahhh so they both got their mini-me and then there’s Eric.
Watch Eric end up being the one who blows this whole dirty coup up.
re: #254 Decatur Deb
Alabama is the Vatican, Texas is Jerusalem.
What does that make South Bend, Indiana?
And what about the Coliseum?
Trump projects so much it’s only a matter of time before we find his Kenyan birth certificate
— AV (@Globalist_Cuck) August 30, 2017
re: #264 KGxvi
What does that make South Bend, Indiana?
And what about the Coliseum?
St Mary’s joke in there somewhere.
re: #265 JordanRules
His wikipedia page says he was born at the Jamaica Medical Center in Queens. Maybe he thinks he was actually born in Jamaica?
Trump says “put partisan posturing behind us.” 10 minutes ago she said defeat McCaskill if she doesn’t support a bill that doesn’t exist
— Rick Klein (@rickklein) August 30, 2017
“Why shouldn’t she support a bill that doesn’t even exist? I do!”
re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White
You know, there’s part of me that hopes he decides to speak in his own defense at his impeachment trial. Just for the amazing shit show that will be.
re: #264 KGxvi
What does that make South Bend, Indiana?
And what about the Coliseum?
In the 70s, I was sitting in a great Chicago Irish club. Around 1AM I turned to the guy in the next pew and said: “Starting to look like a convent school in here.”
Local guy: “The game’s over. That’s Notre Dame and their dates.”
re: #257 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
I was surprised to see that Bakker sells Augason Farms products in his bundles. These are legit but they sell for quite a bit less elsewhere, including Walmart.
“Nice work, Hunt”? Boy, he’s lucky folks only thought he said “Nice work, hon.” It could have been MUCH worse!
Chuck Todd to Kasie Hunt: “Nice work, hon.” pic.twitter.com/kzS5yqzTjO
— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) August 30, 2017
He said “Nice work, Hunt” (her last name) - not “hon” - this is really unfair to @chucktodd https://t.co/OO8hSVcfZK
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) August 30, 2017
re: #252 Joe Bacon 🌹
The sad truth is that the Official Religion in Western PA is Football.
As it is even further West…like Ohio. Especially Steubenville as we know all too well.
NBC in ‘total panic’ as Megyn Kelly attracts only old white people after firing popular black host Tamron Hall https://t.co/BhwvMHdK3X
— Raw Story (@RawStory) August 30, 2017
Between hiring Greta & Megyn NBC News execs just massively overestimated their audience’s appetite for stale white nonsense. https://t.co/3UCUqOapCG
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) August 30, 2017
Makes you wonder if they even focus tested these hires outside the boardroom or simply mistook Trump’s electoral vote win for real zeitgeist
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) August 30, 2017
re: #275 goddamnedfrank
The higher-ups there made a brilliant strategic move to profit from the Hillary Clinton Presidency. They’d have been well placed to cash in on the Hillary Hate. Their problem is, however, that when that failed to happen, they didn’t see that the real money now lies in the Resistance.
re: #277 Blind Frog Belly White
The higher-ups there made a brilliant strategic move to profit from the Hillary Clinton Presidency. They’d have been well placed to cash in on the Hillary Hate. Their problem is, however, that when that failed to happen, they didn’t see that the real money now lies in the Resistance.
They obviously weren’t paying attention in business school then:
Rule of Acquisition 34 - war is good for business
Rule of Acquisition 35 - peace is good for business
You always have to be ready to play both sides.
The most hateful group in America.
Orwell rolls in his grave. pic.twitter.com/vgmxXSnZTK— Paul Joseph Watson (@PrisonPlanet) August 28, 2017
Paul. Orwell volunteered to fight fascists in Spain. Essentially, Orwell is as ‘Antifa’ as it gets. You dumb motherfucker. https://t.co/84jJ0v08ie
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 30, 2017
re: #254 Decatur Deb
Alabama is the Vatican, Texas is Jerusalem.
And Ohio State?
Come on you can’t be talking football as a religion and leave out Ohio State.
They probably rake in more money on football than ‘bama, might even beat Texas…it was close last I heard.
Signal boost! Thought provoking thread I hope.
The lunch counter sit-ins were nonviolent, the argument goes, and antifa is not. That’s a bright-line distinction. No comparison.
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) August 30, 2017
re: #280 ObserverArt
And Ohio State?
Come on you can’t be talking football as a religion and leave out Ohio State.
They probably rake in more money on football than ‘bama, might even beat Texas…it was close last I heard.
You can have Hagia Sophia, then. But you can’t keep it.
re: #279 goddamnedfrank
Next, he’ll tell us Martin Luther King would have hated Black Lives Matter.
Good. All the comments section attracts are keyboard jihadis, Islamophobes, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, misogynists, Salafi morons, and so forth
re: #284 electrotek
A lot of images have started showing up blank, here and on Facebook. Flash? Or something else? Lurking for Dummies needed.
re: #284 electrotek
Good. All the comments section attracts are keyboard jihadis, Islamophobes, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, misogynists, Salafi morons, and so forth
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Comments sections are the Mos Eisley Spaceport of the internet.
Sadly. Because they COULD BE so much more. But people would have to stop being people.
Factoid: Tuscaloosa is the fifth-largest city in Alabama, except for one day every other year when it is the largest.
re: #263 JordanRules
Ahhh so they both got their mini-me and then there’s Eric.
Watch Eric end up being the one who blows this whole dirty coup up.
Quite likely: he’s The Weakest Link in a whole family mainly composed of Weakest Links
re: #275 goddamnedfrank
NBC in ‘total panic’ as Megyn Kelly attracts only old white people after firing popular black host Tamron Hall rawstory.com …
Damn…now I find out Tamron Hall is Black.
/
All of a sudden my mentions just blew up. It was a Mark Ruffalo retweet.
.@POTUS: “We will lower taxes on middle income Americans, so they can keep more of their hard-earned paychecks.” pic.twitter.com/8JigRCSKQb
— Fox News (@FoxNews) August 30, 2017
Only people making over $450K/yr will get tax cuts. Is that who Trump thinks is “middle income”? https://t.co/RjCnBpApS0
— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) August 30, 2017
re: #284 electrotek
Good. All the comments section attracts are keyboard jihadis, Islamophobes, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, misogynists, Salafi morons, and so forth
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re: #281 JordanRules
Signal boost! Thought provoking thread I hope.
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Abso-freaking-lutely. And spot on. Nobody (except me and maybe thee) is perfect, and that includes my closest friends and allies. But some people are closer to perfect than others. Conversely, no one really deserves to be punched without warning, but some people are much closer to deserving it than others.
re: #292 petesh
Abso-freaking-lutely. And spot on. Nobody (except me and maybe thee) is perfect, and that includes my closest friends and allies. But some people are closer to perfect than others. Conversely, no one really deserves to be punched without warning, but some people are much closer to deserving it than others.
This is where I’m at about it, with the caveat that some of the black bloc folks are definitely in the “I don’t really think they’re great” category.
If your view of antifa is “some of it is good, some bad, some makes me nervous,” then you probably would have been down with the sit-ins.
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) August 30, 2017
Riddle me this: why do Islamophobes freak out over diversity in the West, but lament over the loss of a cosmopolitan society in places like Alexandria, Tunis, or Beirut?
re: #287 Decatur Deb
Unnecessary Add-on Factoid: Michigan stadium can hold the population Tuscaloosa except on that one day each year.
re: #285 retired cynic
A lot of images have started showing up blank, here and on Facebook. Flash? Or something else? Lurking for Dummies needed.
I’ve noticed that before, usually disabling the ad blocker brings them back, some quirk in the lists. I keep the blocker on even though I’m a subscriber because I really hate those social media links.
Opinion: Chemotherapy is the moral equivalent of Cancer pic.twitter.com/g8okLFCE1E
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) August 30, 2017
re: #293 klys (maker of Silmarils)
This is where I’m at about it, with the caveat that some of the black bloc folks are definitely in the “I don’t really think they’re great” category.
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I remember well the day the Woolworth sit-in turned on the other customers with axe-handles.
No…wait…that was Lester Maddox at the chicken shack.
re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White
Next, he’ll tell us Martin Luther King would have hated Black Lives Matter.
Of course. He’d have told us so while dropping off his Republican straight line ballot.
////dripping.
re: #298 goddamnedfrank
This both sides shit…ugh
“No, this was a climate influenced storm,” scientist tells @BojorquezCBS. More on why Harvey was more than your typical natural disaster. pic.twitter.com/LhmikSIUs8
— CBS News (@CBSNews) August 30, 2017
re: #298 goddamnedfrank
So, wait, does antifa now mean anarchist? Did I miss that?
re: #303 KGxvi
So, wait, does antifa now mean anarchist? Did I miss that?
I was told there’d be no Venn diagrams.
re: #303 KGxvi
There are many black bloc folks who get absorbed, by design. And that thread I linked to touches on that nicely I think.
re: #305 Amory Blaine
If only that were a joint.
re: #298 goddamnedfrank
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Sorry, they aren’t perfect but I’m glad the Antifa is out there.
re: #307 Decatur Deb
Her choice. I don’t judge.
re: #307 Decatur Deb
Could be a legal pre-roll!
re: #298 goddamnedfrank
Before I even looked, I knew this was a Marc Thiessen op-dump. One of the Washington Post’s worst right wing columnists.
Just got a call from “Windows Tech Support.” I can’t believe people still do that scam.
I was in no mood to mess with them. It’s fun to string them along, but nah, blasting them off of the phone felt better.
re: #290 The Vicious Babushka
.@POTUS: “We will lower taxes on middle income Americans, so they can keep more of their hard-earned paychecks.” pic.twitter.com/8JigRCSKQb
— Fox News (@FoxNews) August 30, 2017
Only people making over $450K/yr will get tax cuts. Is that who Trump thinks is “middle income”? https://t.co/RjCnBpApS0
— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) August 30, 2017
Maybe, but there are a lot of folks (maybe not in absolute numbers, but certainly in “influence”) out there who take it as a given that $450K a year is, at best, middle-class wages.
Remember the flap back in the Obama Admin, when there were proposals to fiddle with the tax code, and some professor from (I think, U of Chicago) penned some Op-Ed screed about how miserable his life was, since he and his wife “only” pulled in about $650K a year, (like 5x the national-average annual income) and how they had, after expenses, like *NO* money left over? For doing anything in life worth doing?
(And the inevitable blowback: it turned out Prof. and wife lived in some huge house in some hugely-expensive neighborhood in Chicago, sent their kids to posh, pricey private schools, drove around in top-end BMWs, paid for nannies and servants 24/7, etc.)
It merely pointed out a common failing in American society: nobody cares (or seems to care) about how well-off they are vis-a-vis the “average”: most people’s economic horizons center only around that level just so much higher than their own. And then, mainly with envy…
re: #295 electrotek
Riddle me this: why do Islamophobes freak out over diversity in the West, but lament over the loss of a cosmopolitan society in places like Alexandria, Tunis, or Beirut?
Easy answer, man: because the loss of that “cosmopolitan” society can always be chalked up to to the innate viciousness/barbarism/intolerance of Muslims.
Since we’ve had some sportsball fun in this thread…
Ur a jackass. How bout u shut up and play some football. I hope Tomlin sits you week 1
— Bill Rosenberger (@bilrosenberger) August 30, 2017
I’m confused, do u want me to play or sit sir? https://t.co/8QCCAcxET2
— Le’Veon Bell (@L_Bell26) August 30, 2017
I love it when players can clap back like this. Teeheehee.
re: #313 Jay C
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Maybe, but there are a lot of folks (maybe not in absolute numbers, but certainly in “influence”) out there who take it as a given that $450K a year is, at best, middle-class wages.
Remember the flap back in the Obama Admin, when there were proposals to fiddle with the tax code, and some professor from (I think, U of Chicago) penned some Op-Ed screed about how miserable his life was, since he and his wife “only” pulled in about $650K a year, (like 5x the national-average annual income) and how they had, after expenses, like *NO* money left over? For doing anything in life worth doing?
(And the inevitable blowback: it turned out Prof. and wife lived in some huge house in some hugely-expensive neighborhood in Chicago, sent their kids to posh, pricey private schools, drove around in top-end BMWs, paid for nannies and servants 24/7, etc.)
It merely pointed out a common failing in American society: nobody cares (or seems to care) about how well-off they are vis-a-vis the “average”: most people’s economic horizons center only around that level just so much higher than their own. And then, mainly with envy…
I live in an area of the country that …ahem… distorts one’s picture of what’s normal. And I grew up in a family that was solidly upper middle class, so I have my own blinders to deal with even before that, and I still wrestle with what would I consider to be actually “rich.” It’s easy to see with the mega-wealthy.
It becomes a lot harder with where you draw the line otherwise. Is it based on saved wealth? Income including work? Income independent of working? I don’t have good answers to these questions and very often everyone has their own definition they’re working from anyway, and nobody spells out what it is before talking about these topics so I wonder how much we’re really understanding each other.
It would be nice if we didn’t have so many fucked up conventions about money in this country, to the point where it’s nearly impossible to have a conversation about it. But here we are.
re: #319 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I live in an area of the country that …ahem… distorts one’s picture of what’s normal. And I grew up in a family that was solidly upper middle class, so I have my own blinders to deal with even before that, and I still wrestle with what would I consider to be actually “rich.” It’s easy to see with the mega-wealthy.
It becomes a lot harder with where you draw the line otherwise. Is it based on saved wealth? Income including work? Income independent of working? I don’t have good answers to these questions and very often everyone has their own definition they’re working from anyway, and nobody spells out what it is before talking about these topics so I wonder how much we’re really understanding each other.
It would be nice if we didn’t have so many fucked up conventions about money in this country, to the point where it’s nearly impossible to have a conversation about it. But here we are.
Long ago (XX Cent) sociologists found that most Americans considered themselves Middle Class, despite a wild range in their incomes.
re: #319 klys (maker of Silmarils)
It becomes a lot harder with where you draw the line otherwise. Is it based on saved wealth? Income including work? Income independent of working? I don’t have good answers to these questions and very often everyone has their own definition they’re working from anyway, and nobody spells out what it is before talking about these topics so I wonder how much we’re really understanding each other.
It’s based on how does your income/wealth compare to the people who live on your block, or whose kids go to the same school as your kids.
By this standard, everyone is “average”.
re: #317 JordanRules
Since we’ve had some sportsball fun in this thread…
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I love it when players can clap back like this. Teeheehee.
Ha!
re: #321 sagehen
It’s based on how does your income/wealth compare to the people who live on your block, or whose kids go to the same school as your kids.
By this standard, everyone is “average”.
Until shit goes south, like it did in the Bush collapse. Then this kicks in:
Oh Dear God: https://t.co/bZQNYTFya1
— Malaclypse (@Mal_A_Clypse) August 30, 2017
Jon McNaughton - there is a painter! He can paint an entire apartment in one afternoon! Two Coats!
— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) August 30, 2017
Some RWNJ at work was talking about how BLM and Antifa haven’t been helping in Houston.
Yes, really.
re: #320 Decatur Deb
Long ago (XX Cent) sociologists found that most Americans considered themselves Middle Class, despite a wild range in their incomes.
They still do - it’s why people talk about the middle class disappearing but it’s never happening to them (unless they are taking their jobs away) and they believe the fantasy they’ll move up not down over time. Hence the votes utterly against their self-interest.
Class issues really are important in America; it’s just critical not to make Bernie’s mistake and think they are the only issues.
re: #325 gocart mozart
McNaughton is about finished with a Trump apotheosis.
re: #326 Eclectic Cyborg
Some RWNJ at work was talking about how BLM and Antifa haven’t been helping in Houston.
Where’s Spencer and the altright been if he’s going to ask stupid questions like that?
re: #319 klys (maker of Silmarils)
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re: #322 Amory Blaine
Right. It’s a fantasy.
A fantasy discovered by sociologists. We are useful.
/educated as one, not working as one, except in so far as my anthropologist professor told me, ‘You think sociologically.’ Words I live by, whether I want to or not.
re: #326 Eclectic Cyborg
Some RWNJ at work was talking about how BLM and Antifa haven’t been helping in Houston.
Yes, really.
Haven’t seen any Polka bands either, though there could be some from Braunfels.
re: #293 klys (maker of Silmarils)
This is where I’m at about it, with the caveat that some of the black bloc folks are definitely in the “I don’t really think they’re great” category.
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Agreed. But there are, ahem, shades of gray even in that dark beast.
True story: Friends of mine back when were plowshares activists (people who damaged weapons in mostly symbolic protest), and made a conscious decision to get away with it if they could, which separated them from compadres who thought that taking public responsibility for your actions was essential. In the event, they were caught and offered no physical resistance. But one of them had a young daughter at the time, and I would have strenuously argued against the action had I known about it in advance, entirely because of her. I supported the intent of the action, and soothed my conscience by driving the kid to see her daddy in his minimum-security prison a few times.
I, of course, was right (as usual). But, seriously, there are a whole bunch of ethical dilemmas that come up if you engage in protest where it may turn violent, whoever starts it. I do understand some people wanting anonymity, though I have always figured I’m on file anyway. I do not agree with unprovoked violence, to people or property, but if a fascist attacked me, I probably wouldn’t turn the other cheek. It’s complicated. (Who knew?)
Also, Tropical Storm Irma is active in the Carribbean and current forecast models suggest a potential hit along the U.S. Gulf Coast.
Hoping it will shoot further east and spare Texas.
re: #331 wrenchwench
A fantasy discovered by sociologists. We are useful.
/educated as one, not working as one, except in so far as my anthropologist professor told me, ‘You think sociologically.’ Words I live by, whether I want to or not.
(He was delivering a mortal insult.)
re: #326 Eclectic Cyborg
Some RWNJ at work was talking about how BLM and Antifa haven’t been helping in Houston.
They wouldn’t like me flying a red banner in my office would they? LOL!
The people’s flag is deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyred dead
And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold,
Their hearts’ blood dyed its every fold.
So raise the scarlet standard high,
Beneath its shade we’ll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We’ll keep the red flag flying here
re: #321 sagehen
It’s based on how does your income/wealth compare to the people who live on your block, or whose kids go to the same school as your kids.
By this standard, everyone is “average”.
Hell, it’s not even clear what the 1% refers to anymore. Is that 1% based on income? Based on saved wealth? What?
And of course asking these questions to start with is a certain level of privilege and I’m aware of that and so I probably should just shut up and stop talking about it.
re: #324 Decatur Deb
Until shit goes south, like it did in the Bush collapse. Then this kicks in:
That’s the wingnut argument IF U HAVE A REFRIGERATOR & A MICROWAVE & TV & INTERNET YOUR NOT REALLY POOR!!!!! Y U NEED FOOD STAMPS1!!!!11
re: #334 Eclectic Cyborg
Also, Tropical Storm Irma is active in the Carribbean and current forecast models suggest a potential hit along the U.S. Gulf Coast.
Hoping it will shoot further east and spare Texas.
No, no, no…it needs to just steam around the Atlantic and poop out.
Texas and Louisiana need the break and I’m taking my mom and one of my brothers down to PCB the week after next (been in the works for about a month now).
Believe me, ever since I found out about Irma last night (when it was still unnamed), I’m staying on that forecast like a hawk.
re: #333 petesh
Agreed, very much so. I’ve taken the position of watching, thinking, and doing what I can within the bounds of my own code of ethics, which includes looking to brush up on my first aid training so I could support those who might do more.
At the end of the day I have to live with the actions I’ve taken.
re: #338 The Vicious Babushka
That’s the wingnut argument IF U HAVE A REFRIGERATOR & A MICROWAVE & TV & INTERNET YOUR NOT REALLY POOR!!!!! Y U NEED FOOD STAMPS1!!!!11
It helps explain some of Bernie’s revolutionaries who have never missed a meal.
re: #317 JordanRules
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I’m getting pumped for UF v. Michigan this Sat.
What an opener!
When nazis held a “Pro-America” rally in Madison Square Garden in 1939, the US press focused on the “violent” “anti-nazi” protesters pic.twitter.com/20WXWZw0oR
— Thal ❤ (@thalestral) August 29, 2017
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Llama costume contest just started. 40 alpacas and llamas.https://t.co/CWslXRMZo9
— Brandi Geography B. (@ItsTheBrandi) August 30, 2017
Here’s a llama dressed like a bowl of mac and cheese. pic.twitter.com/f2CTvN54Hv
— Brandi Geography B. (@ItsTheBrandi) August 30, 2017
This event is now on my bucket list.
re: #354 JordanRules
It’s 4-H at the Minnesota State Fair.
re: #334 Eclectic Cyborg
Also, Tropical Storm Irma is active in the Carribbean and current forecast models suggest a potential hit along the U.S. Gulf Coast.
Hoping it will shoot further east and spare Texas.
Irma is maybe 500 miles west of Cape Verde Island. Likely close to 1,500 miles from the Caribbean. It’s forecasted to around 600 miles east of Antigua by Monday morning
re: #219 The Vicious Babushka
Attn Jews who voted for Trump because of Jared & Ivanka: You own this this.
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re: #347 The Vicious Babushka
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What a great time for the President to focus on selling tax cuts that only benefit the top 1%.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) August 30, 2017
That is one rough chryon pic.twitter.com/Po49vwDNm4
— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) August 30, 2017
Trump: I’m hearing people are dying in a catastrophic flood but SERIOUSLY, I DESPERATELY NEED A TAX CUT FOR MYSELF AND MY BUDDIES. https://t.co/I48skZH60N
— meta (@metaquest) August 30, 2017
I got the bird out.
While I was typing my last comment, a mom and 4 kids were looking at the bird in my front window. This used to be a jewelry store, so it has nice sternum-level display windows, and the tired bird had found the big one (the little one is closed off and not accessible to loose birds). I was able to corner it and grab its little feet [insert one of their songs here] and, in the admiring gaze of 4 kids and a mom, I flung it up in the air outside. It took off with its mate, abandoning the 4 almost ready to fly nestlings, who must be really hungry now. They had one feeder instead of two all day, and now the feeders are both out celebrating.
My turn, I’m going home. After I see the hatchlings being fed.
Later, lizards.
Can we please call him “Chuck?”
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 30, 2017
re: #362 Charles Johnson
Good lord, don’t tell me they are thinking of doing business with him.
re: #179 KGxvi
There’s a (old) Top Gear/Grand Tour joke in there somewhere.
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Bought my similar Toyota pickup new and drove it for 14 years, over 350K miles. Donated it to charity and got over a $500 deduction for taxes. I loved that truck. I finally parted with it when a new emissions inspection came due, since it passed the previous inspection 3 years prior by only .001 gram of hydrocarbons. I figured it won’t pass and so moved on. The kicker? Six months later the state moved to checking via the car’s computer instead of actual emission measurements. And it would have passed the new inspection. Sigh.
Listening to Hardball segment with the Pittsburgh voters. Reminds me why I left 35 years ago!
A report from the House of Commons Library said that the UK could effectively help invade the Korean peninsula in the event of a military confrontation. (emphasis added)
No matter what you think of Trump’s bellicosity, the little aside above is bullshit. I wonder how much Kim’s agents paid them to insert it.
There is no invasion when our troops are already there on the Korean peninsula to help defend a friendly country, South Korea. I have no patience at all with those leftists who believe we were wrong to fight North Korea’s original invasion of the south in 1950, as though they think it would be a good thing for the Kim dynasty to be ruling the whole peninsula.
Not everything America does is a crime.
re: #311 Charles Johnson
Before I even looked, I knew this was a Marc Thiessen op-dump. One of the Washington Post’s worst right wing columnists.
WP gives us Marc Thiessen and NYT Erik Prince. Banner day.
re: #368 electrotek
Signs of Japan embracing its military in spite of long-standing pacifism
I have a fear that Japan, the next time I go, will begin to be unrecognizable to me.
re: #369 Barefoot Grin
I have a fear that Japan, the next time I go, will begin to be unrecognizable to me.
It’s in my mind every day.
re: #368 electrotek
Signs of Japan embracing its military in spite of long-standing pacifism
Thanks, Kim, and Jill Stein and other agents.
re: #371 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Thanks, Kim, and Jill Stein and other agents.
Ironic that it would have been Kim and Jill who would have accomplished this and not Da’esh 2 years ago.
re: #369 Barefoot Grin
I have a fear that Japan, the next time I go, will begin to be unrecognizable to me.
Guess it depends on what needs to be the same for it to be recognizable.
The whole idea that Japan as a whole is pacifist is a very modern thing and not at all their history.
re: #369 Barefoot Grin
I have a fear that Japan, the next time I go, will begin to be unrecognizable to me.
Japanese militarism was a 20th century nightmare. Once on that road, where will they stop?
re: #373 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Guess it depends on what needs to be the same for it to be recognizable.
The whole idea that Japan as a whole is pacifist is a very modern thing and not at all their history.
Well, they did have almost 250 years of peace during the Tokugawa military rule…. Obviously not the same as pacifist, but not inherently warlike. It’s what they tell themselves, and Aso Taros and Abe Shinzos are telling themselves that they need to become more active.
The good news is that China and the Koreas aren’t the same targets they were in the late 19th century and 1931-45.
re: #359 goddamnedfrank
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re: #378 Barefoot Grin
Well, they did have almost 250 years of peace during the Tokugawa military rule…. Obviously not the same as pacifist, but not inherently warlike. It’s what they tell themselves, and Aso Taros and Abe Shinzos are telling themselves that they need to become more active.
The good news is that China and the Koreas aren’t the same targets they were in the late 19th century and 1931-45.
Very true.
On another note, ot going to lie on this one though. After Kenji Goto was brutally murdered by Da’esh in early 2015, I was extremely concerned about encountering rampant Islamophobia in the country upon my visit. You would figure such a barbaric murder would increase the calls for militarization of Japan after that.
That was such a fucking brutal murder I can’t wrap my head around such senseless barbarity. If there was a model Christian in this world to look up to, it would be him. Not the Joel Osteens and Franklin Graham’s.
re: #334 Eclectic Cyborg
Also, Tropical Storm Irma is active in the Carribbean and current forecast models suggest a potential hit along the U.S. Gulf Coast.
Hoping it will shoot further east and spare Texas.
It’s too far to predict. Tuesday or Wednesday would be a better indicator.
Still, it doesn’t do harm to stay alert.
re: #378 Barefoot Grin
Well, they did have almost 250 years of peace during the Tokugawa military rule….
I mean, this is the same culture that gave us samurai. I don’t disagree that they are capable of peace, with or without the language in the constitution, but I think it’s silly to freak out about a country exploring the removal of pacifist language from the constitution that was imposed on them while they’re within clear missile range of a country ruled by an unstable dictator and the primary ally who is supposed to come to their defense is currently governed by a narcissist in chief.
Did we freak out a lot when Germany rebuilt their military too?
I am ironman!
I’ve been giving blood for years. they use my blood for newborns because I’m missing an antibody. so i’ve always figured i have it, i dont need it all, and others can use it. so i donate every 56 days.
Recently the blood bank went from sticking the finger to check for iron content to this thing they stick over your thumb that uses light of some kind. its not as accurate, i think.
and after years of donating, my iron stores started to deplete. i’d go to donate and the thing would read 12.6, 12.9 etc. it has to be 13 or over so they’d send me home.
so i’ve been careful, watched the diet (#1 on their list of iron rich foods - pepperoni pizza!!! - (no pineapple)) and waited an extra month
i want to donate for harvey relief so i go in today and hope im over the minimum.
it was 15! i checked my history. i’ve never been 15.
so i left a pint, which is hopefully on the way to texas
and i’m running around the house yelling “i am ironman”
black sabbath, of course. not those movies…
ok, carry on
re: #383 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I mean, this is the same culture that gave us samurai. I don’t disagree that they are capable of peace, with or without the language in the constitution, but I think it’s silly to freak out about a country exploring the removal of pacifist language from the constitution that was imposed on them while they’re within clear missile range of a country ruled by an unstable dictator and the primary ally who is supposed to come to their defense is currently governed by a narcissist in chief.
Did we freak out a lot when Germany rebuilt their military too?
Which makes me wonder: if Japan goes in and takes out Kim hypothetically, would that reverse the bad blood that Japan still experiences in east Asia due to its imperialist past?
re: #385 electrotek
Which makes me wonder: if Japan goes in and takes out Kim hypothetically, would that reverse the bad blood that Japan still experiences in east Asia due to its imperialist past?
I doubt it. This would take generations to mend.
re: #387 Blind Frog Belly White
I saw this on FB.
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So I asked, “If all ‘the media’ talk about is Melania’s shoes, where did you hear about NK’s missile, Houston’s flooding, and the fact that Americans still fucking hate Nazis?”
Yep. Derp.
re: #385 electrotek
Which makes me wonder: if Japan goes in and takes out Kim hypothetically, would that reverse the bad blood that Japan still experiences in east Asia due to its imperialist past?
It would only intensify it. The largest of those countries that suffered Japanese invasion is a DPRK ally and as for Korea, the South remembers.
re: #389 Decatur Deb
It would only intensify it. The largest of those countries that suffered Japanese invasion is a DPRK ally and as for Korea, the South remembers.
Jesus man, only Japan can be more hated than Kim Jong-il in the eyes of South Koreans and the Chinese.
re: #389 Decatur Deb
It would only intensify it. The largest of those countries that suffered Japanese invasion is a DPRK ally and as for Korea, the South remembers.
Also that kind of unilateral action would be worth freaking out about, going against international norms.
re: #388 HappyWarrior
Yep. Derp.
So the guy who posted it got mad and told me ‘It’s humor. Get a life’.
I thought humor was supposed to be funny. Plus, honestly I thought the post was funny for exactly the opposite reason he did.
re: #392 Blind Frog Belly White
So the guy who posted it got mad and told me ‘It’s humor. Get a life’.
I thought humor was supposed to be funny. Plus, honestly I thought the post was funny for exactly the opposite reason he did.
Yep.
re: #390 electrotek
Jesus man, only Japan can be more hated than Kim Jong-il in the eyes of South Koreans and the Chinese.
Our office in Yongsan had a host-nation civil servant KGS-12 who went to school under the Japanese occupation. Asked if he could translate a Japanese document, he answered: “I can, but I won’t.”
re: #389 Decatur Deb
re: #390 electrotek
re: #391 klys (maker of Silmarils)
And Trump, who has no understanding of…well, much of anything, really, but in this case history as it relates to foreign policy sees it all as a monetary transaction where the US pays for somebody else’s defense and doesn’t get money in return.
No thought about WHY we set both NATO and Japan’s and SK’s defense up the way we did. He only thinks of the money. And if we’re spending more money than we’re getting money back that’s bad.
We elected the only fucker in the whole race dumb enough not to understand why nobody in the whole world wants Japan and Germany to rearm and become military powers again.
Will Guam get reinforcements?
I can see the Green Party’s announcement now:
US Forces Invade Guam!
Actually we did invade Guam, in 1898. The island had no cable connections and the Spanish governor had not heard of the outbreak of war before the US cruiser Charleston showed up to take possession. After some back and forth, the governor and his troops, numbering about 50, surrendered. There were no casualties.
That is one rough chryon pic.twitter.com/Po49vwDNm4
— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) August 30, 2017
Trump hits sweet spot of ignoring his GOP base and nailing it with his patrons. https://t.co/WgXxYJ9Dp3
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 31, 2017
Gobernador de Texas acepta ayuda de México para el desastre ocasionado por Harvey. https://t.co/GMYYmHobTO pic.twitter.com/Uh3PrWLDvU
— Univision (@Univision) August 31, 2017
Governor of Texas accepts support from Mexico for the disaster caused by Harvey.
re: #398 teleskiguy
Has Trump signalled acceptance of help from the national level?
re: #399 Decatur Deb
Has Trump signalled acceptance of help from the national level?
“THIS is how they’re gonna pay for The Wall!!!”
re: #392 Blind Frog Belly White
So the guy who posted it got mad and told me ‘It’s humor. Get a life’.
I thought humor was supposed to be funny. Plus, honestly I thought the post was funny for exactly the opposite reason he did.
all my humor is funny.
its everybody else who doesnt get it
Fact Check: Was Barack Obama President During Hurricane Katrina?Full Report: https://t.co/NyEtdyWixo pic.twitter.com/UPgAvJMwdT
I blame the right wing spin doctors and their propaganda industrial complex for this ignorance. What do you do for a living @FrankLuntz ?
— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) August 31, 2017
re: #401 dangerman
all my humor is funny.
its everybody else who doesnt get it
Even Mrs. FBW, who has nearly the same sense of humor as me, doesn’t laugh at everything I find funny.
re: #383 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I mean, this is the same culture that gave us samurai. I don’t disagree that they are capable of peace, with or without the language in the constitution, but I think it’s silly to freak out about a country exploring the removal of pacifist language from the constitution that was imposed on them while they’re within clear missile range of a country ruled by an unstable dictator and the primary ally who is supposed to come to their defense is currently governed by a narcissist in chief.
Did we freak out a lot when Germany rebuilt their military too?
Good points, for sure.
re: #394 Decatur Deb
Our office in Yongsan had a host-nation civil servant KGS-12 who went to school under the Japanese occupation. Asked if he could translate a Japanese document, he answered: “I can, but I won’t.”
It was illegal to import Japanese cultural items in SK until the 1990s. Couldn’t even take an Asahi newspaper off the plane. My grad profs talked about the near futility of having joint historical conferences. Things have gotten a lot better, especially among average people, but it’s in PRC, SK, and NK interest to remind the people regularly of the horrors of the Japanese imperial years.
re: #407 Barefoot Grin
It was illegal to import Japanese cultural items in SK until the 1990s. Couldn’t even take an Asahi newspaper off the plane. My grad profs talked about the near futility of having joint historical conferences. Things have gotten a lot better, especially among average people, but it’s in PRK, SK, and NK interest to remind the people regularly of the horrors of the Japanese imperial years.
In the 80s, trees that had survived the occupation and the following unpleasantness still had plaques, numbering them.
BREAKING: @jdawsey1 reports: Special Counsel Mueller teams up with New York @AGSchneiderman in Manafort probe https://t.co/E5bKxBc1gW
— Evan Rosenfeld (@Evan_Rosenfeld) August 30, 2017
Teamwork.
re: #21 FormerDirtDart
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re: #411 Patricia Kayden
I thought reading Teleprompters was a bad thing. For eight years straight, I heard that as a criticism of President Obama.
We have always been at war with Eurasia Eastasia.
re: #383 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I mean, this is the same culture that gave us samurai. I don’t disagree that they are capable of peace, with or without the language in the constitution, but I think it’s silly to freak out about a country exploring the removal of pacifist language from the constitution that was imposed on them while they’re within clear missile range of a country ruled by an unstable dictator and the primary ally who is supposed to come to their defense is currently governed by a narcissist in chief.
Did we freak out a lot when Germany rebuilt their military too?
You’re absolutely right. And if it was just a bunch of missile defence systems the current Japanese government was looking to purchase, I suspect they’d have overwhelming majority support both domestically and abroad.
Thing is, it’s not just that. Now I don’t really speak any more japanese than needed to get by in a handful of old games so I really can’t comment with any degree of specialist knowledge, but the general idea that seems to be emerging from most English-language media on the subject would be that there’s a fairly nasty, hard-line strain of ethno-nationalist sentiment interwoven with much, if not most, of the current ruling party’s policy and ideology.
I’m all for more countries contributing at least some military might overseas - there’s frankly a lot of peacekeeping/international policing to be done and having more of the ‘free world’ (whatever that means at any given time) involved will generally be a good thing, creating both a moderating influence on bad ideas and adding legitimacy to such efforts, but I’m not really comfortable with the way Japan seems to be going about this either. (Hell I’m probably quite far off to the hawkish end of what would be considered acceptable in polite company and I’m getting a bit queasy here)
Being able to project some force abroad is good, having some pride in your own society is good, but militaristic etho-nationalist movements have a bit of a checkered past if I’m not mistaken ;)
Really, though, if I’m just completely mistaken about that apparent ugly underbelly to the current Japanese government please do correct me, I’d love to be proven wrong on this one.
re: #412 Blind Frog Belly White
That’s what’s pretty cool about this!
Gas stations here in the DFW area are running out of gas. Prices jumped about 15cents today and 20 over the last couple of days, so people are filling up.
Texas may need more than $125 billion U.S. aid for Harvey recovery
if i let you have my california blue state net contributor dollars to clean up your trump-voting california-hating state, will you stop fucking saying you resent having to subsidize health insurance for poor people?
Watching Rachel and holy crap Texas is an unregulated wild wild west throwback. No zoning, no fire regulations.
Wow.
re: #418 JordanRules
Watching Rachel and holy crap Texas is an unregulated wild wild west throwback. No zoning, no fire regulations.
Wow.
Hey, Freedom is worth the lives of the poor suckers who can only afford to live next to the unregulated chemical plants!
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re: #383 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I mean, this is the same culture that gave us samurai. I don’t disagree that they are capable of peace, with or without the language in the constitution, but I think it’s silly to freak out about a country exploring the removal of pacifist language from the constitution that was imposed on them while they’re within clear missile range of a country ruled by an unstable dictator and the primary ally who is supposed to come to their defense is currently governed by a narcissist in chief.
Did we freak out a lot when Germany rebuilt their military too?
Japan actually started rebuilding their military at the same time as Germany, the mid-50s, so that is not a valid comparison. I think there would be some freaking out if Germany announced a major constitutional revision of military policy now.
re: #52 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
“Turned out to be racist”? Trump started out his Presidential campaign with anti-Mexican comments. He was a birther. He was found liable for discriminating against Black and Brown tenants.
Where has Trumka been?
My wife and I just waved good-bye to our car, as it left on the back of a flatbed truck to the car spa to have some wrinkles and dimples worked on in Colorado.
The tow company said they would bill the mechanic shop. I’ll call them in a couple days to find out what the charge was. If it turns out the charge is cheaper than getting to Scottsbluff to rent a car (there are no rental companies in Sterling according to the tow driver), then I’ll just hire the tow company to bring our car back.
If it turns out the damage is far worse than I can see and the car is totalled, well, then we have a bit of a problem. So, I’m holding out for “not totalled.”
re: #414 ThomasLite
Sure. We can get right on policing that for them as soon as we get them out of our own government successfully.
re: #410 JordanRules
Now this is some great news. Trump can’t pardon himself and his cronies from state convictions.
re: #418 JordanRules
Watching Rachel and holy crap Texas is an unregulated wild wild west throwback. No zoning, no fire regulations.
Wow.
Free market solutions!
re: #418 JordanRules
Watching Rachel and holy crap Texas is an unregulated wild wild west throwback. No zoning, no fire regulations.
Wow.
re: #420 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Japan actually started rebuilding their military at the same time as Germany, the mid-50s, so that is not a valid comparison. I think there would be some freaking out if Germany announced a major constitutional revision of military policy now.
I think there’d be a lot of discomfort if Germany started talking in belligerent tones (like Trump) or talking about rebuilding the military (like Trump) or naming a bunch of Generals to Ministerial positions (like Trump).
re: #425 bratwurst
Free market solutions!
I don’t want to find myself being dissolved in one of them Free Market Solutions, like the guy in the first Robocop…….
re: #387 Blind Frog Belly White
Are Colin Kaepernick’s free speech rights under attack? Or is he exercising the wrong free speech? It’s hate speech which privileges White Supremacists that Rightwingers are worried about.
re: #429 Patricia Kayden
Are Colin Kaepernick’s free speech rights under attack? Or is he exercising the wrong free speech? It’s hate speech which privileges White Supremacists that Rightwingers are worried about.
I just posted this on FB:
Nazis: Want to turn America into a white supremacist society, threaten nonwhites and non-Christians.
Antifa: Want to beat up Nazis.
How about a sense of proportion, people?
re: #403 meteor
Irrelevant observation but Ozzie’s hair looks luxurious.
re: #420 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Japan actually started rebuilding their military at the same time as Germany, the mid-50s, so that is not a valid comparison. I think there would be some freaking out if Germany announced a major constitutional revision of military policy now.
Heh, funny you would mention that. They’re (we’re?) sneaking that in through the back door, sort of. There are now several German-led mixed-nationality brigades slowly being formed - our (that would be Dutch) airborne and cavalry units have pretty much merged into larger German formations under mixed (but, frankly, ultimately German) command. There’s something like that brewing with the Czechs IIRC, and Poland’s not far off. I think one or two scandinavian countries (Norway I think) are seriously considering participating as well.
It’s basically a federal European army slowly being built under mainly German influence and command.
And it’s a really, really good idea being spearheaded by one of the largest, most consistently level-headed governments around.
Please don’t freak out, I like where this is headed. :)
— Barbara Ward (@Bebes_Scrubs) August 31, 2017
Daddy said there’d be days like this. #Impeachhim #Lockhimup #ComplicitBarbie pic.twitter.com/dWPrwcrJlL
— Barbara Malmet (@B52Malmet) August 7, 2017
re: #326 Eclectic Cyborg
Some RWNJ at work was talking about how BLM and Antifa haven’t been helping in Houston.
Yes, really.
But alt-right, the KKK and White Supremacists have been helping? I don’t get it.
re: #326 Eclectic Cyborg
had a friend on facebook ranting the same way.
re: #426 teleskiguy
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Chilling. I’ve seen that before, and I’ve always wondered what actually happened to the folks that filmed it?
I’m not great at judging distances on a video, but anyone have a guess how far back they were from the plant?
I was thinking a little over a half mile.
Reason I wonder, they have the 1.5 miles evacuation zone going now at the plant they are watching. That’s a large area. Rachel said in Texas there is no mandatory evacuation so people cannot be forced to leave. Sounds like some are staying.
Texas.
Fuck it, I’m going back to the appropriate level of freaking out over llama costumes.
I cannot get enough of this tiny llama dressed as a motorcycle. pic.twitter.com/5ZazmVfoIo
— Kara Lynum (@karalynum) August 31, 2017
re: #321 sagehen
It’s based on how does your income/wealth compare to the people who live on your block, or whose kids go to the same school as your kids.
By this standard, everyone is “average”.
That makes me amongst the poorest people in my town. (I haven’t considered myself to be “middle class” since I left the Navy.)
re: #440 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Here is the motorcycle llama as Trump last year. pic.twitter.com/Sv5XplT3ak
— Kara Lynum (@karalynum) August 31, 2017
re: #442 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Suit fits about as well as Trump’s do, tie is long enough. This costume checks out. (I like how the handler is HRC.)
re: #418 JordanRules
Watching Rachel and holy crap Texas is an unregulated wild wild west throwback. No zoning, no fire regulations.
Wow.
We’re not the Wild West, we’re pro-corporation. If I tried to start a company out of my house, the state would absolutely get me for zoning violations.
re: #418 JordanRules
Watching Rachel and holy crap Texas is an unregulated wild wild west throwback. No zoning, no fire regulations.
Wow.
It will only change when wealthy people start getting blown up in chemical plant explosions.
re: #446 jaunte
It will only change when wealthy people start getting blown up in chemical plant explosions.
Authorities Urge Louisiana Residents To Evacuate Dangerous Lower Income Brackets https://t.co/hSyFOMoIZp pic.twitter.com/xYJr4cIP88
— The Onion (@TheOnion) August 30, 2017
re: #334 Eclectic Cyborg
Also, Tropical Storm Irma is active in the Carribbean and current forecast models suggest a potential hit along the U.S. Gulf Coast.
Hoping it will shoot further east and spare Texas.
Close: Irma is in the Eastern Atlantic.
It has a long way to go before it gets to the Caribbean Sea.
Courtney Barnett & Kurt Vile - Over Everything (Official Video) https://t.co/MKecHVY8Xg via @YouTube
— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) August 31, 2017
Found the guy that filmed the video in Teleskiguy’s #426 was a less than 300 yards away from the explosion. It lifted his truck.
Yikes! 1.5 miles and they are not saying what all and how much of what is in their chemical inventory at the current chemical plant. State secrets.
So we flew back to Austin today with a stop in Phoenix. While there, we met a family at the gate waiting for the flight who had been away from their home for a week. Tech workers, one child, and either his or her mother (she wore a bindi, so I’m assuming they were a Hindu family). They were trying to get back to their home in Houston, but Hobby is closed, so Austin was as close as they could get.
Bottom line:
They don’t know if they have a home left, or not.
There are areas of Houston that have never flooded before that have feet of water. This family, on faith, were willing to fly to Austin, rent a car, and drive into the unknown.
It’s a damn good metaphor for the country right now, isn’t it?
We got ten inches of rain while we were gone, but it came in waves that didn’t damage us.
There was a C-17 on the ramp at Jordan/Austin today, and I think we’ll be seeing more of them. This is as close to ground zero as Air Force heavy lift aircraft can get. They are landing planes at Bush (IAH) now, but access into the city is extremely limited. The only way to get into Katy on the west side of Houston is from here.
More on Hobby follows.
re: #444 Belafon
The fire thing is still hella rogue.
re: #347 The Vicious Babushka
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