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The Major  Nov 16, 2017 • 7:47:31pm

Oh Dear Lord - Do I REALLY Have To ? I’d rather suffer through a colonoscopy without anesthesia…

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Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2017 • 7:47:40pm
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Interesting Times  Nov 16, 2017 • 7:51:28pm
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TedStriker  Nov 16, 2017 • 7:54:27pm

re: #3 Interesting Times

Or we’re in our own personal Hells.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2017 • 7:59:28pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:00:07pm

Broken clock moment

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:00:34pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Is it true that Apple made a Very Special iPhone for Tweetler…The iPhone XXX?????

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:02:17pm

re: #1 The Major

Oh Dear Lord - Do I REALLY Have To ? I’d rather suffer through a colonoscopy without anesthesia…

I’ve had kidney stones.

If I had to choose between meeting The Pences and the Stones, I’ll take the Stones!

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The Major  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:03:04pm

re: #6 FormerDirtDart

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:04:31pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:09:35pm

Today in FCC news.

1) The FCC just repealed a 42-year-old rule blocking broadcast media mergers

2) Sorry, poor people: The FCC is coming after your broadband plans

3) Another vote today will make it easier for telcos to shut off old copper networks even when they don’t replace the networks with fiber or other equivalent service. This could leave consumers with only mobile service instead of wired phone and Internet access.

And that’s just today.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:13:51pm

The cops thought otherwise:

Facebook Post

This is actually a fairly common belief among Texas students, especially those from the rural gentry.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:14:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:15:00pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

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Certainly. If the Dems are being made to feel bad because of Clinton, the Pubbies deserve it far more for Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:16:51pm

The Tesla Semi reveal event is running late. Supposed to start any minute now if anybody is interested.

livestream.tesla.com

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The Major  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:18:20pm

re: #11 Skip Intro

3) Another vote today will make it easier for telcos to shut off old copper networks even when they don’t replace the networks with fiber or other equivalent service. This could leave consumers with only mobile service instead of wired phone and Internet access.

I just had the displeasure of trying to order POTS service (which this residence had a decade or so ago) and was told by AT&T that they could not provide it to me “at this time”.

So now it’s off to write a letter to my state’s Public Services Commission asking them to look into this issue - if I had POTS once before, they should deliver me POTS now for fucks sake….

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danarchy  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:18:39pm

I have to make a confession. As I was watching this Samantha Bee video I couldn’t help but wonder if she needed help getting into those pants.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:23:08pm

How did I not realize Sam B was from Canada??

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:25:05pm

Wow…wow…wow! Just saw this on MSNBC. Things are getting hot and Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown is involved.

Watch Sherrod Borwn and Orrin Hatch get in a big dustup over the tax bill.

Can anyone figure out how to embed the video. MediaITE is not easy to figure out like so many others.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:25:08pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

Certainly. If the Dems are being made to feel bad because of Clinton, the Pubbies deserve it far more for Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:25:28pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

The Tesla Semi reveal event is running late. Supposed to start any minute now if anybody is interested.

livestream.tesla.com

They want me to sign up to watch…
Ummm…No

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The Major  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:25:32pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

How did I not realize Sam B was from Canada??

Because you weren’t paying attention, perhaps ?

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scottslemmons  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:25:49pm

re: #11 Skip Intro

Today in FCC news.

1) The FCC just repealed a 42-year-old rule blocking broadcast media mergers

2) Sorry, poor people: The FCC is coming after your broadband plans

3) Another vote today will make it easier for telcos to shut off old copper networks even when they don’t replace the networks with fiber or other equivalent service. This could leave consumers with only mobile service instead of wired phone and Internet access.

And that’s just today.

And the Kochs are already trying to buy Time magazine. I figure by next year, everything from the major networks on down to the local Pennysaver is going to be owned by some mega-rich wingnut.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:26:18pm
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The Major  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:27:04pm

re: #23 scottslemmons

I figure by next year, everything from the major networks on down to the local Pennysaver is going to be owned by some mega-rich wingnut.

And that’s why everybody needs to start practicing sousveillance…..

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:28:00pm

The base has spoken:

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:28:29pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:29:46pm

re: #27 FormerDirtDart

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:31:37pm
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jaunte  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:31:58pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:32:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:32:32pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Sean, don’t you have a coffee maker to lash out at?

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:32:36pm

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The base has spoken:

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If only they had put Texas in the sign instead of “America.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:32:58pm

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The base has spoken:

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Well you can’t argue with that. //

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:35:19pm

re: #24 jaunte

Luther Campbell of 2 Live Crew said he left one of these parties because it was too out there for him. That was chilling. He won’t talk about it but said they had to get the hell up out of there.

I’ve seen how Luther gets down and it’s usually quite a risque affair, but there was nothing that I saw that would be out of place on say, Skinemax and certainly nothing that would shake me to my core.

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:35:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:36:43pm

You just knew Trump would comment about Franken and have a stupid nickname at that. Of course, crickets about Moore. Hypocritical douchenozzle especially given his own history.

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The Major  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:36:57pm

re: #27 FormerDirtDart

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Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:37:07pm

re: #17 danarchy

I have to make a confession. As I was watching this Samantha Bee video I couldn’t help but wonder if she needed help getting into those pants.

What the fuck.

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The Major  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:37:50pm

re: #36 ObserverArt

Of course….

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:41:55pm

re: #35 JordanRules

This detail might be helpful. I’ve been to Superbowl and NBA All-Star parties Campbell’s hosted. And I’ve been to a 2 Live Crew concert.

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:43:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:45:18pm

re: #42 JordanRules

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They’re all lying! // Seriously fuck Trump. And fuck his supporters too who act outraged by Franken.

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Pineapple Pizzagate  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:47:52pm

re: #20 jaunte

Geez…that woman looks young enough to be his daughter!

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:51:02pm

re: #36 ObserverArt

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:51:59pm

re: #45 jaunte

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Yep. And he’s been around a long time. The GOP’s rot doesn’t end with Trump.

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danarchy  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:54:32pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

What the fuck.

Just saying her pants looked skin tight. Reminded me of this scene in Dazed and Confused.

Dazed and confused tight jeans

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:54:42pm
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electrotek  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:55:26pm

Please tell me Pamela Geller has lost her verified status on Twitter now.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:55:45pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart

They want me to sign up to watch…
Ummm…No

Here’s a Youtube livestream that’s much more reliable. He’s surprise revealing the new roadster now.

Tesla Semi Truck Event LIVE STREAM

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TedStriker  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:56:36pm

re: #35 JordanRules

Luther Campbell of 2 Live Crew said he left one of these parties because it was too out there for him. That was chilling. He won’t talk about it but said they had to get the hell up out of there.

I’ve seen how Luther gets down and it’s usually quite a risque affair, but there was nothing that I saw that would be out of place on say, Skinemax and certainly nothing that would shake me to my core.

If fuckin’ Uncle Luke Skyywalker thinks your party was too fucking weird and outrageous for him, enough to make him want to run for the nearest exit ASAP, something was seriously wrong; my wild guess is it was the obviously underaged girls that were supposedly present and being passed around like cigarettes in jail.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:57:19pm

re: #48 JordanRules

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Outside of Carson, I don’t know of a single AA appointee. Very few women too. But this is what his base wanted.

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:57:44pm

Shorter Orrin Hatch: “I came from nothing, but boy…I got a lot now. So don’t you try to take that away from me and “mine” (us rich) for politics. I’m sick of it. I have been at this for years!”

So touching Orrin. Nice use of outrage. Too bad we can all see what you are doing now. That would be cutting the opportunity for others that have nothing to get a little something like you claim you did then. And, to be able to have the same opportunity you did.

Fuck you. You F’n arrogant ass.

Gonna have to try to write the Esteamed Senator Orrin Hatch and be a little outraged at his response to my Senator.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:59:14pm

re: #53 ObserverArt

Shorter Orrin Hatch: “I came from nothing, but boy…I got a lot now. So don’t you try to take that away from me and “mine” (us rich) for politics. I’m sick of it. I have been at this for years!”

So touching Orrin. Nice use of outrage. Too bad we can all see what you are doing now. That would be cutting the opportunity for others that have nothing to get a little something like you claim you did then. And, to be able to have the same opportunity you did.

Fuck you. You F’n arrogant ass.

Gonna have to try to write the Esteamed Senator Orrin Hatch and be a little outraged at his response to my Senator.

What class warfare?

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2017 • 8:59:21pm

re: #36 ObserverArt

Hatch made a lot of noise and complained, but he didn’t offer any substantive rebuttal.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:01:39pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

Roadster base model specs:
0-60 in 1.9 sec
0-100 in 4.2 sec
Quarter mile in 8.9 sec
Top speed 250+ mi/hr
Battery capacity = 200 KWH
4 Seats
No mention of price

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:02:24pm

re: #51 TedStriker

I’m telling you! He was shook and I was just completely chilled by it.
Yeah, your guess is pretty much where my mind went too.

I hope we can find justice for 45s victims, somehow, someway, someday soon!

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:03:08pm

re: #55 jaunte

Hatch made a lot of noise and complained, but he didn’t offer any substantive rebuttal.

And in a way he is accusing Sherrod Brown of using talking points and acting when he said “I like you, but…”

F’n hypocrite.

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allegro  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:04:00pm

re: #57 JordanRules

I’m telling you! He was shook and I was just completely chilled by it.
Yeah, your guess is pretty much where my mind went too.

I hope we can find justice for 45s victims, somehow, someway, someday soon!

What is his reason for not revealing what he knows? Trying not to think of him as complicit in his silence but.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:04:27pm

More shaky Fox polling:

Fox News poll: Obama has higher favorability in Alabama than Trump

thehill.com

In a sane state, fire ants would have higher favorability than Trump.

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:05:42pm

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

Roadster base model specs:
0-60 in 1.9 sec
0-100 in 4.2 sec
Quarter mile in 8.9 sec
Top speed 250+ mi/hr
Battery capacity = 200 KWH
4 Seats
No mention of price

Jeez…that acceleration should mean the car comes with racing neck braces in the seats and maybe the driver and occupant wearing HANS devices.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:05:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:06:21pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

More shaky Fox polling:

Fox News poll: Obama has higher favorability in Alabama than Trump

thehill.com

In a sane state, fire ants would have higher favorability than Trump.

The fire ants wouldn’t praise Putin.

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TedStriker  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:06:55pm

re: #59 allegro

What is his reason for not revealing what he knows? Trying not to think of him as complicit in his silence but.

Maybe because Luther can’t prove that he wasn’t involved, especially going up against the now-POtuS, the full weight of the US government, and his propaganda arm; without something conclusive and irrefutable like video, Campbell would be ripped to shreds.

If there were video, it’d been out way before now, perhaps during the campaign; it would have been a KO.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:07:02pm

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

Roadster base model specs:
0-60 in 1.9 sec
0-100 in 4.2 sec
Quarter mile in 8.9 sec
Top speed 250+ mi/hr
Battery capacity = 200 KWH
4 Seats
No mention of price

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:07:36pm

re: #58 ObserverArt

Orrin Hatch was born in a log cabin he built himself. That’s why wealthy heirs need to inherit more than $11 million tax free.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:07:44pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

2020 Dream ticket:

Drone #3758/Worker #26733

ACQUIRE SUGAR, CREATE LARVAE, STING

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:08:51pm

re: #59 allegro

I definitely wouldn’t argue against folks viewing him as complicit for not revealing more now. As far as I recall he was doing an interview on an urban radio station and said it was too much to talk about on the radio. Don’t think anyone chased it down beyond that. He did say he was with Eddie Murphy IIRC.

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The Major  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:10:41pm

re: #53 ObserverArt

Gonna have to try to write the Esteamed Senator Orrin Hatch and be a little outraged at his response to my Senator.

Hopefully he won’t reach Kolob and gets the Pineapple Treatment when his time comes….

Little Nicky - Hitler Pineapple Scene

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:11:47pm

re: #68 JordanRules

Also this might have been during the campaign and he thought there was no way that vile POS was going to win.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:11:57pm

re: #67 The Ghost of a Flea

2020 Dream ticket:

Drone #3758/Worker #26733

ACQUIRE SUGAR, CREATE LARVAE, STING

Worker 26733 took money from Goldman Sachs. Give me Worker 33762.

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The Major  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:12:46pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

Worker 26733 took money from Goldman Sachs. Give me Worker 33762.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:12:57pm

re: #61 ObserverArt

Jeez…that acceleration should mean the car comes with racing neck braces in the seats and maybe the driver and occupant wearing HANS devices.

It’s pretty obscene. If these specs hold i will be the fastest production car on the road. It’s not going to be cheap.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:13:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:13:50pm

re: #72 The Major

I wanted to come up with a honey pun with GS. Alas I couldn’t.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:14:14pm

re: #74 jaunte

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Can’t wait to vote for him again.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:15:43pm
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TedStriker  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:17:51pm

re: #77 jaunte

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Not even hiding it anymore, besides taking these votes in the middle of the fucking night.

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nines09  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:18:01pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:18:15pm

And now a word from the Prince of Darkness about Roy Moore…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:18:53pm

re: #77 jaunte

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Thanks Senator Casey. As an American with a disability, it’s nice to see someone cares.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:19:45pm

re: #80 Joe Bacon 🌹

And now a word from the Prince of Darkness about Roy Moore…

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Okay let’s send Moore to Russia. He seems to like it better there anyhow. I’d hate to punish our friend Sergey tho.

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TedStriker  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:21:58pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Okay let’s send Moore to Russia. He seems to like it better there anyhow. I’d hate to punish our friend Sergey tho.

Four words:

Si Ber I A

/

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:22:41pm

re: #83 TedStriker

Four words:

Si Ber I A

/

Oh yes for sure.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:22:44pm
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TedStriker  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:23:43pm

re: #85 jaunte

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The Democrats better tell the GOP to fucking stuff it and make them own this shit in full.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:30:33pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:34:13pm

It’s gettin’ late but I just had to do this. It’s been a weird day…so why not take it the little bit further.

Ant Party!

Vote the Ant Party
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jaunte  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:34:39pm

re: #86 TedStriker

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whitebeach  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:34:46pm

re: #79 nines09

Night night all.

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Damn, bro, that is some ludey tune right there.

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:39:33pm

Their audacity is inherited from generations of systemic benefit. My gawd.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:41:41pm

re: #91 JordanRules

Their audacity is inherited from generations of systemic benefit. My gawd.

Roy Moore to hold “Women for Moore” rally outside Alabama state capitol

They were going with “Girls for Geezers”, but it didn’t pass the focus group.

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Interesting Times  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:42:07pm

re: #91 JordanRules

Their audacity is inherited from generations of systemic benefit. My gawd.

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Cheeto Benito pulled a similar stunt after the Access Hollywood tape, and 53% of white women voted FOR him. So why wouldn’t Pedo Moore think it would work for him as well? :/

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:42:48pm

Out of gas.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:42:59pm

re: #17 danarchy

I have to make a confession. As I was watching this Samantha Bee video I couldn’t help but wonder if she needed help getting into those pants.

Ummm, given all the discussion that has gone on here today about sexual harassment, that comment is, shall we say to put it mildly, a bit tone deaf. Ah fuck it. Why the fuck did you think it’s O.K to post such a misogynistic piece of crap like that? Here of all places?

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:43:26pm

re: #91 JordanRules

Gadsden Mall rejects “Women for Moore” rally.

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:43:36pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:43:55pm

Page for the Tesla Semi is up now.

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:50:02pm

re: #93 Interesting Times

And we gotta keep voting for the good timeline to help all the ladies get a more equitable life. I’m really ready for this simulation to be over though!

Thanksgiving dinners should be fun this year.

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:52:54pm

Oh hey Charles, we decided in an earlier thread that we need to wrap you in about 4 layers of bubble wrap to make sure you’re protected and can continue to helm the mighty, mighty LGF.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:54:35pm

re: #91 JordanRules

Their audacity is inherited from generations of systemic benefit. My gawd.

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Advertised as a press conference, but looking for supporters to attend. Maybe I can take the grand-daughters.

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:56:22pm

re: #101 Decatur Deb

Acckkk!!!!! You stop trolling me this late at night!

Maybe a drive-by with some lessons in bird flipping though.

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LastYearsMan  Nov 16, 2017 • 9:56:29pm

re: #91 JordanRules

Their audacity is inherited from generations of systemic benefit. My gawd.

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White women supporting scum like Trump and Moore reminds me of how in old China the women were so important to maintaining footbinding. It’s amazing how people will joyfully support their own oppression.

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JordanRules  Nov 16, 2017 • 10:01:45pm

re: #103 LastYearsMan

It’s so sad and I know as this focus on abusers pushes forward here we are going to be confronted by female enablers in insane ways.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2017 • 10:03:10pm

re: #102 JordanRules

Acckkk!!!!! You stop trolling me this late at night!

Maybe a drive-by with some lessons in bird flipping though.

Might take a sign with a simple Bible verse. The Judge likes Bible verses.

Luke 17:1-3
“It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea, than that he would cause one of these little ones to stumble”.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 16, 2017 • 10:29:36pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 16, 2017 • 10:32:11pm

re: #49 electrotek

Please tell me Pamela Geller has lost her verified status on Twitter now.

Nope

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 16, 2017 • 10:32:59pm

re: #103 LastYearsMan

White women supporting scum like Trump and Moore reminds me of how in old China the women were so important to maintaining footbinding. It’s amazing how people will joyfully support their own oppression.

If you could listen to the callers we deal with daily at work and how white men and especially white women on Social Security and especially Supplemental Security Income let their hate run like the dam is broke. The absolute hatred they have for the Clintons, Al Gore and especially Obama is shocking. And the overwhelming majority of them really love Trump—“Man of the People, God’s Anointed King”, “The Most Honest Man Who Has Ever Been President”…and in the background of the calls you hear Rush and his Hate Radio pals or Jesus TV or 19th Century Fox…

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 16, 2017 • 10:35:25pm

re: #108 Joe Bacon 🌹

If you could listen to the callers we deal with daily at work and how white men and especially white women on Social Security and especially Supplemental Security Income let their hate run like the dam is broke. The absolute hatred they have for the Clintons, Al Gore and especially Obama is shocking. And the overwhelming majority of them really love Trump—“Man of the People, God’s Anointed King”, “The Most Honest Man Who Has Ever Been President”…and in the background of the calls you hear Rush and his Hate Radio pals or Jesus TV or 19th Century Fox…

Having FOX on is elder abuse. It drives these older people insane. It’s unconscionable and cruel.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 16, 2017 • 10:39:18pm

re: #108 Joe Bacon 🌹

That they believe that Trump is an ‘honest man’ only serves to illustrate how thoroughly they’ve been brainwashed.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 16, 2017 • 10:44:58pm

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

That they believe that Trump is an ‘honest man’ only serves to illustrate how thoroughly they’ve been brainwashed.

It’s the effectiveness of 40 years of brainwashing from the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine. And now the FCC has completely capitulated to the Right with their moves to allow them to completely control all media.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 16, 2017 • 10:50:51pm

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s the effectiveness of 40 years of brainwashing from the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine. And now the FCC has completely capitulated to the Right with their moves to allow them to completely control all media.

I can only hope that the next Democratic POTUS will begin taking steps to reverse this using anti-monopoly laws, etc. Replace the FCC governing board.

Of course, the RW’ers won’t like that one bit, but you know what? Fuck ‘em.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 16, 2017 • 10:53:35pm

re: #109 Renaissance_Man

Having FOX on is elder abuse. It drives these older people insane. It’s unconscionable and cruel.

They’re all complicit in their own brainwashing, and honestly I have nothing but contempt for them. Plenty of people in every generation have found ways of inoculating themselves against religious & sexist bigotry, white cultural revanchism and racist hatred.

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

That they believe that Trump is an ‘honest man’ only serves to illustrate how thoroughly they’ve been brainwashed.

They DON’T believe it. It’s the lie as shibboleth again, a identify friend or foe signal designed to provoke a response. They know he’s a liar, and they don’t care because they’re all liars who lie to advance a very specific agenda marked by white christian atavism. The first goal in telling the lie is to hear if it is accepted and to then know the other person isn’t part of the secular or liberal “other.” Trump’s “honesty” works especially well in this regard because it’s SO demonstrably counterfactual that to let such a contention slide requires a deliberately conscious buy-in on the part of the person hearing it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 16, 2017 • 11:04:21pm

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s the effectiveness of 40 years of brainwashing from the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine. And now the FCC has completely capitulated to the Right with their moves to allow them to completely control all media.

They weren’t forced to listen to this — they gravitated to it because many are racist to the core and they want to believe that the problem was the “other” — those of different races, ethnicity, religion. This is nothing new: Slavery - Jim Crow - anit-Semitism - Fascism - Nazism all existed before the modern age of mass entertainment, before Fox News, the Koch Brothers, the Mercers. There have been darker days in our lifetime. In the 1960’s our cities were burning and we were in a hopeless conflict in VietNam. The worst sin is despair since it allows evil to conquer — and last week’s election shows that we can have hope.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 16, 2017 • 11:25:51pm
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Kragar  Nov 16, 2017 • 11:45:51pm
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Nyet  Nov 17, 2017 • 12:14:41am
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LastYearsMan  Nov 17, 2017 • 12:34:41am

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s the effectiveness of 40 years of brainwashing from the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine.

As bad as all that propaganda is, I wonder how much of the problem boils down to our brains simply not having evolved to deal with the world we’ve created. We’re designed to be running through grasslands with small tribes of closely related apes, not living anonymously in a vast digital world. It’s just too easy to hack our simple nervous systems.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 17, 2017 • 1:47:04am

Wow, it looks like Remington is totally boned.

Following the spate of mass shootings over the last several months, it has become clear that Congress and the Trump Administration have no plans to enact new gun control regulations. That might be welcome news for gun enthusiasts, but it’s actually a bad omen for gun manufacturers.

Indeed, this morning, Remington Outdoor disclosed a dramatic plunge in earnings for the third quarter of 2017. Adjusted EBITDA fell by 78% year-over-year to $7.4 million, on net sales of $154 million, down 30%.

The “Trump Slump” in gun sales has had a punishing effect on the stocks of US-based firearms manufacturers. Publicly-traded Sturm Ruger & Co and American Outdoor Brands have shed 27% and 43% in market capitalization, respectively, since mid-June, as consumer urgency to stockpile has receded under the unified Republican-led administration and Congress.

But the stakes are arguably higher for Remington, since its highly levered balance sheet means it has a much smaller cash flow buffer to help absorb declines. Remington, also known as Freedom Group and taken private by Cerberus Capital Management in 2007 for $370 million, is likely to burn cash this year thanks to its high interest costs. That in turn will make it difficult to refinance its debtload, which has ballooned to $964 million and is scheduled to mature across 2019 and 2020.

I’m glad Remington is suffering now, in 2007 they bought Marlin and in 2011 they shut down production in North Haven Connecticut and moved it to Kentucky. Remington fired all the old union machinists without realizing that the true manufacturing settings and specs had all been kept in their heads and had purposefully never been written down, which resulted in fucking up the entire line of what had previously been the best lever action rifles a person could buy.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 17, 2017 • 2:54:02am
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Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2017 • 3:26:29am

re: #121 Dave In Austin

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Donny, your one big “accomplishment” (putting Gorsuch on the SCOTUS bench) was possible due to GOP obstructionism. So blow it out your ass.

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William Lewis  Nov 17, 2017 • 3:48:22am

re: #4 TedStriker

Or we’re in our own personal Hells.

I’ve always wondered if what we call “Earth” isn’t purgatory…

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Mike Lamb  Nov 17, 2017 • 5:16:19am

re: #121 Dave In Austin

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Best read in the voice of the Emperor from Star Wars….

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 17, 2017 • 5:34:17am
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jeffreyw  Nov 17, 2017 • 5:39:47am

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Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 17, 2017 • 5:45:26am

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JordanRules  Nov 17, 2017 • 5:48:45am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

Did you read the rest?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 17, 2017 • 5:50:27am

re: #128 JordanRules

Did you read the rest?

Whoa.

“He came in close, put his bare feet on top of mine so I could not move, leaned his body against me, and began quick, discreet thrust back and forth against my body. I felt his penis on my hip through his thin pajamas,” Lysette says.

Lysette pushed Tambor away and “rolled my eyes.” Billings was not present for this alleged incident, and several crewmembers were nearby “but they were focused on their jobs. It was discreet. If you were behind Jeffrey you might have thought he was giving me a hug.”

The actress, who is transgender, is the second on the Transparent payroll to come forward with allegations that Tambor, 73, has subjected them to sexual harassment, sexual assault and generally abusive behavior on the set of the critically adored series.

The first accuser, Van Barnes, is a trans woman who worked as Tambor’s personal assistant, and whose allegations have led to an internal investigation by Amazon Studios. She has previously appeared on E!’s I Am Cait.

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dangerman  Nov 17, 2017 • 5:55:19am

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

Roadster base model specs:
0-60 in 1.9 sec
0-100 in 4.2 sec
Quarter mile in 8.9 sec
Top speed 250+ mi/hr
Battery capacity = 200 KWH
4 Seats
No mention of price

After 9.0 seconds batteries need a full recharge

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 5:56:51am

re: #130 dangerman

After 9.0 seconds batteries need a full recharge

So don’t use it to try to run from cops.

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JordanRules  Nov 17, 2017 • 5:58:58am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 17, 2017 • 5:59:38am

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TedStriker  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:03:18am

re: #129 The Vicious Babushka

WTF…I just can’t even any more on this shit.

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:13:12am

re: #134 TedStriker

WTF…I just can’t even any more on this shit.

Now you know why whites were so eager to move on after the Civil War. Finding out, over and over, of the abuses of the Southern States even after the war was over would have gotten tiring.

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JordanRules  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:13:55am
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lizardofid  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:20:27am

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

Wow, it looks like Remington is totally boned.

I’m glad Remington is suffering now, in 2007 they bought Marlin and in 2011 they shut down production in North Haven Connecticut and moved it to Kentucky. Remington fired all the old union machinists without realizing that the true manufacturing settings and specs had all been kept in their heads and had purposefully never been written down, which resulted in fucking up the entire line of what had previously been the best lever action rifles a person could buy.

Next stop, Portugal? Or, any chance Jared has a clandestine meet with Norinco?

/// (1/2)

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lawhawk  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:30:04am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy tweeting about Franken’s groping, but is silent over Moore’s sexual assaults on minors.

It figures. Trump wont go after a fellow sex predator, especially one of the same political persuasion.

It’s the New GOP Testament: 13th Commandment - Thou Shalt Not Attack a Fellow GOP Sex Predator.

The GOP doesn’t care about the double standards or the hypocrisy. They just want the power and ability to gut the safety net while shifting the burdens on to those least able to endure them.

I know I sound like a broken record here, but the tax scheme the GOP is trying to ram through is the typical GOP vaporware/malware combination we’ve seen from the GOP for years. GOP tax policy is voodoo economics, and their current version takes both Trumpcare and mixes it with the trickle down bullshit to give the worst possible outcomes to all but the richest of Americans.

So while Pence and Trump claim that this is a huge tax break for all Americans, the fact that everyone but the richest of Americans has to do math to see if they come out ahead is telling that you have no idea if you’ll be seeing a tax break or a hike.

Complicating matters is the attempt to include Trumpcare in the tax scheme, so that someone might see a physical tax cut, but ends up paying far more because their health benefits have been gutted.

The GOP sees this as a feature, not a bug.

They’re more than willing to eliminate tax breaks the middle class relies on, while creating new tax breaks for stuff like owning a private aircraft.

The GOP isn’t even trying to obscure its agenda.

This is straight up redistribution of wealth to the richest of Americans while all the burdens flow the other way.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:45:48am

re: #138 lawhawk

I look at my family’s various Facebook pages. They’re too far gone to reason with. They’re praising the tax cuts because it will “take those welfare checks away from…those people

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:48:06am

re: #139 Joe Bacon 🌹

I look at my family’s various Facebook pages. They’re too far gone to reason with. They’re praising the tax cuts because it will “take those welfare checks away from…those people

I delete political posts on FB and unfreind people who get too carried away with them. AFAIC, FB is for keeping in touch with friends and family, cute kid/kitten videos, food pr0n and upcoming events.

And certainly do not view it as a source of news stories.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:48:11am

re: #139 Joe Bacon 🌹

I look at my family’s various Facebook pages. They’re too far gone to reason with. They’re praising the tax cuts because it will “take those welfare checks away from…those people

And then I imagine, once their own taxes inevitably go up. They’ll blame the Dems and the cycle of derp will continue. I feel for you Joe. I’m lucky. I do have a few family members who are wingnutty but they’re distant cousins. My parents, brothers, first cousins, aunts, and uncles all are pretty reasonable minded people.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:49:16am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I delete political posts on FB and unfreind people who get too carried away with them. AFAIC, FB is for keeping in touch with friends and family, cute kid/kitten videos, food pr0n and upcoming events.

And certainly do not view it as a source of news stories.

Well it’s not being used as a news story source here. It’s people giving their opinion on current events. People who do use their FB about politics 24/7 though are annoying and I feel that way about people I agree with too.

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scottslemmons  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:57:44am

Does anyone else feel like we’re about to go over the edge of the falls? It feels like the Republicans are about to get the keys to everything they want, and the Really Bad Stuff is about to start cascading. The budget bill is bad enough, but the media ownership rules and the end of net neutrality are the ones that really feel like the beginning of the end to me…

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Weaselone  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:57:48am

re: #139 Joe Bacon 🌹

I look at my family’s various Facebook pages. They’re too far gone to reason with. They’re praising the tax cuts because it will “take those welfare checks away from…those people

Hmmm. I wonder if it will come as a shock when they eventually figure out that they are “those people”.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:59:17am

In other news - is it possible to be too big an asshole for Fox News? Apparently so.

Kiss frontman Gene Simmons—until this week, a favorite guest on Fox News and Fox Business Network programs, which couldn’t get enough of his supposedly outrageous rock-star antics mixed with conservative politics—has been banned for life from the right-leaning cable channels.

Fox finally had enough of Simmons after he crudely insulted female Fox staffers, taunted them and exposed his chest, and otherwise behaved like the “demon” character he plays onstage. Management was not amused, and Simmons’s photograph was promptly posted Wednesday at the security entrance of the company’s Manhattan headquarters along with a “do-not-admit” advisory.

Simmons’s publicist didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 6:59:36am

re: #143 scottslemmons

Does anyone else feel like we’re about to go over the edge of the falls? It feels like the Republicans are about to get the keys to everything they want, and the Really Bad Stuff is about to start cascading. The budget bill is bad enough, but the media ownership rules and the end of net neutrality are the ones that really feel like the beginning of the end to me…

It’s not over yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:00:02am

re: #143 scottslemmons

Does anyone else feel like we’re about to go over the edge of the falls? It feels like the Republicans are about to get the keys to everything they want, and the Really Bad Stuff is about to start cascading. The budget bill is bad enough, but the media ownership rules and the end of net neutrality are the ones that really feel like the beginning of the end to me…

every month of Trump Administration lasts will take at least a year to repair…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:00:18am

re: #145 makeitstop

In other news - is it possible to be too big an asshole for Fox News? Apparently so.

I guess so. I’ve never liked Gene Simmons or KISS at alll.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:01:28am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

I guess so. I’ve never liked Gene Simmons or KISS at alll.

Me neither. I have a lot of musician friends who worship them. I never got the memo.

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scottslemmons  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:03:05am

re: #146 Belafon

It’s not over yet.

That’s what worries me. They’ve barely gotten started, and they have at least another seven years to go.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:04:40am

re: #149 makeitstop

Me neither. I have a lot of musician friends who worship them. I never got the memo.

What amuses me is how Simmons has gone from the guy all these wingnuts hated in teh 70’s and 80’s becase “KISS is satanic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” to spouting their bullshit. Like the Satanic shit was stupid. My late cousin loved them and I loved talking music with him but Gene was and is a pathetic asshole who thinks he’s among the greatest of all time. I mean even if I didn’t like his politics or music, he could at least try to be a decent person. Like Alice Cooper, I’m not a huge fan of his music and he’s known to lean conservative but AC seems like a good guy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:10:53am

re: #149 makeitstop

Me neither. I have a lot of musician friends who worship them. I never got the memo.

There was a big schism back in our school between the prog rock fans (Yes, ELP, Zappa, etc) and the Kiss Army and the heavy metal headbangers.

I was prog rock and went over to being a fan of jazz of the Miles Davis school and all the musicians bands that spun off his orbit.

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lawhawk  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:13:06am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

KISS and Gene’s genius was in marketing.

I like some of their music, but if you listen closely to a couple of the songs, they too creep on underage girls (Christine 16, Beth, etc.)

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:15:26am

re: #150 scottslemmons

That’s what worries me. They’ve barely gotten started, and they have at least another seven years to go.

I meant there’s still plenty for us to do. And no, they won’t go two terms.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:15:47am

re: #153 lawhawk

KISS and Gene’s genius was in marketing.

I like some of their music, but if you listen closely to a couple of the songs, they too creep on underage girls (Christine 16, Beth, etc.)

Oh yeah, no doubt they marketed themselves well but music wise? Meh. Gene also thinks because he’s made millions, he’s one of the best ever. Plenty of more talented musicians who died paupers.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:16:19am

re: #143 scottslemmons

Does anyone else feel like we’re about to go over the edge of the falls? It feels like the Republicans are about to get the keys to everything they want, and the Really Bad Stuff is about to start cascading. The budget bill is bad enough, but the media ownership rules and the end of net neutrality are the ones that really feel like the beginning of the end to me…

Better start paddling really hard, then.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:17:37am

re: #143 scottslemmons

Does anyone else feel like we’re about to go over the edge of the falls? It feels like the Republicans are about to get the keys to everything they want, and the Really Bad Stuff is about to start cascading. The budget bill is bad enough, but the media ownership rules and the end of net neutrality are the ones that really feel like the beginning of the end to me…

Wonder how long it will be until the ownership of any radio capable of receiving anything other than “approved” stations will be frowned upon or even outlawed?

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scottslemmons  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:24:47am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Gene also thinks because he’s made millions, he’s one of the best ever.

No wonder he loves Trump so much.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:24:58am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah, no doubt they marketed themselves well but music wise? Meh. Gene also thinks because he’s made millions, he’s one of the best ever. Plenty of more talented musicians who died paupers.

Yes, he caught a lot of criticism and in the end, I came to realize that it was unnecessary and unwarranted. He was successful at what he did and at selling his product.

I had no use for it personally, so I just followed what I liked and refrained from knocking him for doing what he did or his fans for liking what they liked.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:27:30am

re: #143 scottslemmons

Does anyone else feel like we’re about to go over the edge of the falls? It feels like the Republicans are about to get the keys to everything they want, and the Really Bad Stuff is about to start cascading. The budget bill is bad enough, but the media ownership rules and the end of net neutrality are the ones that really feel like the beginning of the end to me…

This country went over the Event Horizon when the Supreme Court installed Bush as President. We’re on the same path as every other empire that overextended their military forces and ignored domestic needs—we’re coming to the end of the Empire

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:28:01am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, he caught a lot of criticism and in the end, I came to realize that it was unnecessary and unwarranted. He was successful at what he did and at selling his product.

I had no use for it personally, so I just followed what I liked and refrained from knocking him for doing what he did or his fans for liking what they liked.

Yeah I won’t knock the music. It’s not for me but meh as a person, I do have a problem with him. I have a problem with how incredibly sexist, racist, and insensitive he is.

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scottslemmons  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:35:27am

re: #160 Joe Bacon 🌹

This country went over the Event Horizon when the Supreme Court installed Bush as President. We’re on the same path as every other empire that overextended their military forces and ignored domestic needs—we’re coming to the end of the Empire

I’m less concerned about the end of the empire and more concerned about the beginning of a globe-straddling Fourth Reich leading to a near-inevitable Warhammer 4K future. :/

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:35:56am

re: #153 lawhawk

KISS and Gene’s genius was in marketing.

Who else could get away with marketing a Kiss Kasket? When one of my friends passed away, he actually was buried in one of these…

And it was the “De Luxe Model”…
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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:36:53am

re: #163 Joe Bacon 🌹

Who else could get away with marketing a Kiss Kasket? When one of my friends passed away, he actually was buried in one of these…

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I wish I could be around when the archaeologists of the future find that and these other customized caskets.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:45:31am

re: #162 scottslemmons

“Leave the old and dying America and use your creative energies to help form a new America, which would be de-militarized, more humanistic, where the police are less hostile and closer to the community, where the wealthy are not given unleashed power for the exploitation of the people. And, mostly because it’s now a matter of life and death, reassert an ecological balance with the environment, which means the people in the oil companies and the car companies and the space industry and all the other industries will have to be brought into account, so that there will be a new definition of government which has to be closer to the people and less close to special interests which are far more harmful than any revolutionaries.”

Phil Ochs, 1968

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:46:52am

re: #165 Decatur Deb

“Leave the old and dying America and use your creative energies to help form a new America, which would be de-militarized, more humanistic, where the police are less hostile and closer to the community, where the wealthy are not given unleashed power for the exploitation of the people. And, mostly because it’s now a matter of life and death, reassert an ecological balance with the environment, which means the people in the oil companies and the car companies and the space industry and all the other industries will have to be brought into account, so that there will be a new definition of government which has to be closer to the people and less close to special interests which are far more harmful than any revolutionaries.”

Phil Ochs, 1968

We’ve been ending since the 60s it seems.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:53:08am

he is so full of shit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:55:11am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:55:38am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

he is so full of shit

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I hate to play CT but I wonder how many of these were just men who happen to be of El Salvadorian origin.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:55:44am

re: #166 Belafon

We’ve been ending since the 60s it seems.

And the bleeding seer crawled from the ruins of the empire
And stood bleeding, bleeding on the border
He said, passion has led to chaos and now chaos will lead to order.

—1967

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 7:57:02am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Doesn’t surprise me. This was very unfortunate but this combined with Al’s statement I think shows he’s not on the level of Moore, Weinstein, or Trump.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:02:21am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:06:26am
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:07:21am

re: #150 scottslemmons

That’s what worries me. They’ve barely gotten started, and they have at least another seven years to go.

That is defeatist. Trump is an incredibly unpopular president; there is no reason to think we can’t limit him to one term.

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ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:08:07am

re: #146 Belafon

It’s not over yet.

I am very familiar with “rose colored glasses.”

I think some folks wear “black colored glasses.”

No light is getting in.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:08:18am
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:08:58am

re: #173 Charmingly Persistent

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ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:10:02am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

every month of Trump Administration lasts will take at least a year to repair…

If Trump calls this Making America Great Again, then we will need three rounds of Democrats to Restore America’s Real Greatness Again.

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Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:10:18am

re: #173 Charmingly Persistent

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Yes, but the important thing is that dozens of very rich people will get huge paydays and no doubt “trickle down” that money by buying yachts and expensive gifts…in other countries.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:12:37am

re: #179 Targetpractice

Yes, but the important thing is that dozens of very rich people will get huge paydays and no doubt “trickle down” that money by buying yachts and expensive gifts…in other countries.

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They will piss on us, and tell us its raining.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:13:55am

re: #176 Bubblehead II

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Will former Fox News President of the United States, Jimmy Carter or Barack Obama take over?

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Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:15:54am

Why does this women keep getting interviewed?

So according to Kellywise, a story 8 days old is unworthy of Donny’s attention. But conspiracy theories from 2 years ago, 7 years ago, and 20+ years ago…well, those he had time for.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:16:02am

re: #180 Big Beautiful Door

They will piss on us, and tell us its raining.

The jobs they create will be minimum-wage positions with no benefits at the Wal-Mart selling us all the cheap imported goods they are paying people overseas fourteen cents an hour to produce.

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ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:16:28am

re: #150 scottslemmons

That’s what worries me. They’ve barely gotten started, and they have at least another seven years to go.

7???

Jebus man, you have it bad.

If you were a general facing an invasion, I’m thinking you would gather the troops on the ships and abandon the country before they got totally ashore so you can fight them.

How the hell did The British manage to not keep this country?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:17:11am

re: #182 Targetpractice

Why does this women keep getting interviewed?

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So according to Kellywise, a story 8 days old is unworthy of Donny’s attention. But conspiracy theories from 2 years ago, 7 years ago, and 20+ years ago…well, those he had time for.

By your logic Kellyanne, your boss should have never brought out Juanita Broederick. Oh wait, different rules for Trump. What a fucking hack this idiot is.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:17:46am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

Will former Fox News President of the United States, Jimmy Carter or Barack Obama take over?

Nah. Jimmy is ancient history for most Gen Xers and millennials and the only thing they have on Pres. Obama is wearing a brown suit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:20:06am

resist the pun
resist the pun
resist the pun

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ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:20:12am

re: #166 Belafon

We’ve been ending since the 60s it seems.

1860s?

Sure was fucked up then.

Here we are.

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ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:21:49am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:23:10am
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Skip Intro  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:23:46am

re: #182 Targetpractice

Why does this women keep getting interviewed?

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So according to Kellywise, a story 8 days old is unworthy of Donny’s attention. But conspiracy theories from 2 years ago, 7 years ago, and 20+ years ago…well, those he had time for.

Why do I have to keep seeing her gawd awful ugly face?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:25:33am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

resist the pun
resist the pun
resist the pun

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That’s quite possibly the most Swedish thing ever.

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ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:27:01am

re: #182 Targetpractice

Why does this women keep getting interviewed?

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So according to Kellywise, a story 8 days old is unworthy of Donny’s attention. But conspiracy theories from 2 years ago, 7 years ago, and 20+ years ago…well, those he had time for.

Kellyanne Conway’s News Cleaner. It’s effective!!!.
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Skip Intro  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:27:08am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is how it should be done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:28:10am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:28:18am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No training value? Bullshit. That demonstrates a practiced awareness of the aircraft’s position in the sky.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:28:47am

re: #194 Skip Intro

This is how it should be done.

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(Edited…)

That’s gotta be CGI.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:32:32am

re: #173 Charmingly Persistent

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It’s in the interest of the Republican Communist Party to keep the masses dumbed down to follow whatever the Party dictates!

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:40:51am

Oh for christ’s sake
thanks for not helping miss “Resistance Writer”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:41:33am
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ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:46:19am

Ben Sasse was going to be the moderate and different from your average Republican.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:47:05am

re: #199 FormerDirtDart

Oh for christ’s sake
thanks for not helping miss “Resistance Writer”

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Slut shaming is vile. Just because a woman has modeled doesn’t make her open game.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:47:39am

re: #201 ObserverArt

Ben Sasse was going to be the moderate and different from your average Republican.

Tastiest toxin on the shelf.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:47:52am

re: #199 FormerDirtDart

Oh for christ’s sake
thanks for not helping miss “Resistance Writer”

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She’s getting hammered in the responses. Good. She should be. I’m ashamed she’s on the same side as me.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:49:02am

Interesting thread from the Game Theory Guy:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:49:24am

re: #202 Big Beautiful Door

Slut shaming is vile. Just because a woman has modeled doesn’t make her open game.

Exactly. This is just like asking what a woman who’s assaulted was wearing, or whether a rape victim sleeps around.

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Skip Intro  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:49:40am

Another day, another attempted media takeover.

Comcast wants to get bigger, again, has begun talks with 21st Century Fox

Comcast or Verizon could buy Fox Studios and cable networks.

Comment on the story:

“The ruling class wants to go back to feudalism. You will not own anything because everything will belong to the corporation you belong to. The Lord of Facebook will send you to war against Duke Google. Lady Verizon will marry the heir of the Comcast County to consolidate her influence… All will be all part of their fight to become the next Trumpness. “

arstechnica.com

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Mike Lamb  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:49:59am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So the ABA was wrong about a guy that is 3 years out of lawschool, that has never tried a case, that was a paranormal investigator, and that has a wife working the admin wasn’t qualified for the federal bar?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:52:57am

re: #208 Mike Lamb

So the ABA was wrong about a guy that is 3 years out of lawschool, that has never tried a case, that was a paranormal investigator, and that has a wife working the admin wasn’t qualified for the federal bar?

The paranormal thing is the least of it, in fact I read that be belongs to a non-profit organization that sets out to find a rational explanation for woo-woo phenomena. Just a quirky but interesting hobby.

But the conflict of interest involving his wife is totally egregious.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:56:29am

re: #201 ObserverArt

Ben Sasse was going to be the moderate and different from your average Republican.

Just like every other Republican, Sasse will do whatever Chairman Putin decrees!

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scottslemmons  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:58:08am

re: #184 ObserverArt

7???

Jebus man, you have it bad.

If you were a general facing an invasion, I’m thinking you would gather the troops on the ships and abandon the country before they got totally ashore so you can fight them.

How the hell did The British manage to not keep this country?

What the hell do you think is being done? Writing Congress isn’t going to work forever, writing the FCC isn’t doing a bit of good, blathering on websites isn’t going to do any good. I’ve got wonderfully specific plans for how to save the country, and every time I mention ‘em here, everyone yells about the use of railroad spikes, crowbars, and pushpins.

The fact is we have no plans at all for how to fix this beyond “1. Write Congress; 2. (a miracle occurs); 3. America is saved.” Stopgap measures cannot work forever, and pollyanna optimism is only going to get innocent people killed or enslaved.

And abandoning the country is something else we should be making serious plans for. We won’t be able to save many, but we should try to save those who are worth saving. I want my family and friends and favorite writers/artists/musicians to escape before it’s too late, even if I can’t go with them. But we don’t even consider that because we’re too arrogant/stupid/suicidal to consider how bad things are going to get.

I swan, I don’t know what’s wrong with some of y’all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 17, 2017 • 8:59:37am

I’ll make an observation about this moment in time.

Although the guys who know what they’re doing, like Harvey Weinstein, are a big problem and need to be dealt with harshly, I think another, maybe more important outcome will be if women can tell men openly, “That’s not okay. It made me feel degraded.” And for men to be able to say, “I’m sorry. I didn’t realize I was doing that. Thanks for telling me. I’ll try not to do it again.”

Looking back on years of working in an industry which very much believed “We’re different! Women in biotech are tough! They don’t mind the jokes!”, I wonder how many more women would be in leadership roles in this business if they hadn’t just gotten the shits of dealing with puerile coworkers and found another line of work.

And I also believe that most men are well meaning, and if we realized the feelings we’re engendering we’d be more circumspect.

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ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:03:54am

This is why details are important.

This is an opinion piece by a Larry O’Conner.***

MediaITE - MSNBC’s Kasie Hunt ‘Reports’ Franken Was ‘Not Actually Groping’ Leeann Tweeden

As the breaking story of Al Franken’s lewd behavior toward Leeann Tweeden during a USO tour in 2006 was developing Thursday, MSNBC’s Capitol Hill Correspondent Kasie Hunt reported to viewers that Franken was “not actually groping” Tweeden in the famous photo that shook the political and media landscape. (Newsbusters)

KASIE HUNT: We are starting to see some immediate reaction to this on Capitol Hill to those allegations and you covered what she had to say pretty well. In a nutshell, she said she was on this USO tour that Al Franken wrote — he was a comedian then, not a Senator — wrote into the script that he should kiss her. Tried to get her to rehearse it. It was uncomfortable. She avoided him after that. Then he took a picture, which his office now says was of a joke, that showed him potentially — not actually groping, but mock-groping her while she was asleep.

Not only is this “reporting” inaccurate, Hunt seems to present a political argument that even Franken is not making in his own defense.

“Potentially — not actually groping, but mock-groping” is how Hunt, the reporter delivered the news. How does she know this? What facts have been presented to support this? I mean, I suppose it could turn out this was “potentially — not actually groping, but mock-groping” but no one has presented that argument as of now, except, of course, MSNBC’s Capitol Hill Correspondent Kasie Hunt.

Even worse, Hunt also characterized Tweeden’s description of the direct physical assault that culminated with Franken forcing his tongue into her mouth against her will in a completely inaccurate way.

Hunt reported that Tweeden claims Franken “wrote into the script that he should kiss her. Tried to get her to rehearse it. It was uncomfortable.” Was it uncomfortable?

Let’s please take a moment to read exactly how Tweeden described this incident:

He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything and that we must practice the kiss. I said ‘OK’ so he would stop badgering me. We did the line leading up to the kiss and then he came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth.

I immediately pushed him away with both of my hands against his chest and told him if he ever did that to me again I wouldn’t be so nice about it the next time.

I walked away. All I could think about was getting to a bathroom as fast as possible to rinse the taste of him out of my mouth.

I felt disgusted and violated.

But if someone only watched MSNBC in the middle of the day Thursday and relied on their Capitol Hill Correspondent to report the news of this story, they wouldn’t know those details. They’d think that Tweeden felt “uncomfortable” after Franken forced himself on her, held her from the back of the head, and forced his tongue into her mouth.

This all happened on the same day MSNBC’s John Heilemann called Fox News a “totally corrupt enterprise that has nothing to do with journalism or principle and everything to do with advancing an ideological agenda.” He said that on MSNBC, the same network that featured Kasie Hunt’s reporting - not actual reporting but mock-reporting.

This is an opinion piece. The views expressed in this article are those of just the author.

***Larry O’Connor is an American talk radio host on the Cumulus-owned heritage radio station WMAL AM/FM in Washington DC and frequent television guest on Fox News Channel’s early morning show Fox and Friends as well as FNC’s Red Eye w/ Greg Gutfeld. (Wiki)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:05:13am

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ll make an observation about this moment in time.

Although the guys who know what they’re doing, like Harvey Weinstein, are a big problem and need to be dealt with harshly, I think another, maybe more important outcome will be if women can tell men openly, “That’s not okay. It made me feel degraded.” And for men to be able to say, “I’m sorry. I didn’t realize I was doing that. Thanks for telling me. I’ll try not to do it again.”

It must be my upbringing, my father died when I was young and it was just my mom and older sister living at home, but I have never considered forcing myself on women who were not interested.

At all, ever. Period.

Heck, I have never been to a prostitute because I cannot get interested in a woman who only cares about my money. Not that all my relationships have always been deep and meaningful, but there was always some level of personal interest.

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Kragar  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:05:49am
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scottslemmons  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:05:51am

re: #211 scottslemmons

What the hell do you think is being done? Writing Congress isn’t going to work forever, writing the FCC isn’t doing a bit of good, blathering on websites isn’t going to do any good. I’ve got wonderfully specific plans for how to save the country, and every time I mention ‘em here, everyone yells about the use of railroad spikes, crowbars, and pushpins.

The fact is we have no plans at all for how to fix this beyond “1. Write Congress; 2. (a miracle occurs); 3. America is saved.” Stopgap measures cannot work forever, and pollyanna optimism is only going to get innocent people killed or enslaved.

And abandoning the country is something else we should be making serious plans for. We won’t be able to save many, but we should try to save those who are worth saving. I want my family and friends and favorite writers/artists/musicians to escape before it’s too late, even if I can’t go with them. But we don’t even consider that because we’re too arrogant/stupid/suicidal to consider how bad things are going to get.

I swan, I don’t know what’s wrong with some of y’all.

And I’m off to spend the rest of the day listening to Two Steps From Hell and writing about superheroes and stuff to keep my mind off the pending end of America, so pretty please, with sugar on top, don’t waste your time @’ing me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:07:06am

re: #215 Kragar

“Fox & Friends” host on Roy Moore: “I would kick his head in if it was one of my daughters”

So “kick a child molester’s head in” is now right up there with “punch a Nazi”?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:09:15am

re: #211 scottslemmons

What the hell do you think is being done? Writing Congress isn’t going to work forever, writing the FCC isn’t doing a bit of good, blathering on websites isn’t going to do any good. I’ve got wonderfully specific plans for how to save the country, and every time I mention ‘em here, everyone yells about the use of railroad spikes, crowbars, and pushpins.

The fact is we have no plans at all for how to fix this beyond “1. Write Congress; 2. (a miracle occurs); 3. America is saved.” Stopgap measures cannot work forever, and pollyanna optimism is only going to get innocent people killed or enslaved.

And abandoning the country is something else we should be making serious plans for. We won’t be able to save many, but we should try to save those who are worth saving. I want my family and friends and favorite writers/artists/musicians to escape before it’s too late, even if I can’t go with them. But we don’t even consider that because we’re too arrogant/stupid/suicidal to consider how bad things are going to get.

I swan, I don’t know what’s wrong with some of y’all.

You’re overlooking the obvious plan—doing the classical Democratic election thing, but doing it better. The Trump victory can be seen as an inevitable outcome of disengaging large numbers of people from the process that got us to 2008. If we learn from that, the setback is temporary. If we don’t, the only alternative is revolution and technology has put us beyond the age of romantic revolution.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:13:34am

re: #218 Decatur Deb

You’re overlooking the obvious plan—doing the classical Democratic election thing, but doing it better. The Trump victory can be seen as an inevitable outcome of disengaging large numbers of people from the process that got us to 2008. If we learn from that, the setback is temporary. If we don’t, the only alternative is revolution and technology has put us beyond the age of romantic revolution.

And let’s not mention that giving up on the democratic process is exactly what the Trump Cult and their enablers want us to do.

They’re betting on fatigue and disillusion. I refuse to give them even that.

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:14:36am

re: #219 makeitstop

And let’s not mention that giving up on the democratic process is exactly what the Trump Cult and their enablers want us to do.

They’re betting on fatigue and disillusion. I refuse to give them even that.

+1
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:17:02am

re: #214 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It must be my upbringing, my father died when I was young and it was just my mom and older sister living at home, but I have never considered forcing myself on women who were not interested.

At all, ever. Period.

Heck, I have never been to a prostitute because I cannot get interested in a woman who only cares about my money. Not that all my relationships have always been deep and meaningful, but there was always some level of personal interest.

That’s the thing, though - it goes beyond forcing yourself on an unwilling partner. It’s jokes and comments and looks and a thousand other little things.

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ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:19:31am

re: #211 scottslemmons

What the hell do you think is being done? Writing Congress isn’t going to work forever, writing the FCC isn’t doing a bit of good, blathering on websites isn’t going to do any good. I’ve got wonderfully specific plans for how to save the country, and every time I mention ‘em here, everyone yells about the use of railroad spikes, crowbars, and pushpins.

The fact is we have no plans at all for how to fix this beyond “1. Write Congress; 2. (a miracle occurs); 3. America is saved.” Stopgap measures cannot work forever, and pollyanna optimism is only going to get innocent people killed or enslaved.

And abandoning the country is something else we should be making serious plans for. We won’t be able to save many, but we should try to save those who are worth saving. I want my family and friends and favorite writers/artists/musicians to escape before it’s too late, even if I can’t go with them. But we don’t even consider that because we’re too arrogant/stupid/suicidal to consider how bad things are going to get.

I swan, I don’t know what’s wrong with some of y’all.

Blathering on a web site. That says it all.

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Birth Control Works  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:21:28am
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Birth Control Works  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:22:19am

re: #219 makeitstop

Last Hurrah of the UberMensch

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:22:34am

re: #211 scottslemmons

What the hell do you think is being done? Writing Congress isn’t going to work forever, writing the FCC isn’t doing a bit of good, blathering on websites isn’t going to do any good. I’ve got wonderfully specific plans for how to save the country, and every time I mention ‘em here, everyone yells about the use of railroad spikes, crowbars, and pushpins.

The fact is we have no plans at all for how to fix this beyond “1. Write Congress; 2. (a miracle occurs); 3. America is saved.” Stopgap measures cannot work forever, and pollyanna optimism is only going to get innocent people killed or enslaved.

And abandoning the country is something else we should be making serious plans for. We won’t be able to save many, but we should try to save those who are worth saving. I want my family and friends and favorite writers/artists/musicians to escape before it’s too late, even if I can’t go with them. But we don’t even consider that because we’re too arrogant/stupid/suicidal to consider how bad things are going to get.

I swan, I don’t know what’s wrong with some of y’all.

They keep trying, but they’re not succeeding at everything. They still haven’t passed a major piece of legislation. They can’t get their muslim ban past the courts.

It sucks that we’re fighting these battles now, but we are.

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meteor  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:23:55am

Today would have been my brother’s 47th birthday. Rest in peace, Greg.

Suffer Little Children (2011 Remastered Version)

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:24:01am

re: #222 ObserverArt

Blathering on a web site. That says it all.

It is kind of the minimum involvement. Sooner or later recovering the country is going to require blood, sweat, tears, and cold cash.

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The Major  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:24:57am

re: #153 lawhawk

There are only two songs that I like out of the Kiss library: Paul Stanley’s “Hold Me, Touch Me (And Think Of Me When We’re Apart)” and “Forever” (co-written with Michael Bolton)

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:26:51am

re: #227 Decatur Deb

It is kind of the minimum involvement. Sooner or later recovering the country is going to require blood, sweat, tears, and cold cash.

Things a lot of Democrats failed to understand after Obama was elected.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:29:36am

re: #228 The Major

There are only two songs that I like out of the Kiss library: Paul Stanley’s “Hold Me, Touch Me (And Think Of Me When We’re Apart)” and “Forever” (co-written with Michael Bolton)

Michael Bolton co-wrote a KISS song?!

Well I’ll be damned…..I had no idea.

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sagehen  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:30:39am

re: #228 The Major

There are only two songs that I like out of the Kiss library: Paul Stanley’s “Hold Me, Touch Me (And Think Of Me When We’re Apart)” and “Forever” (co-written with Michael Bolton)

I like this one:

KISS - New York Groove (Live At The Brooklyn Bridge) - 1996

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The Major  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:33:33am

re: #207 Skip Intro

Let’s face facts - Fox News Cable is starting to become a drag on News Corp’s bottom line, and they need a lifeline thrown to them - and this is their way out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:36:13am

re: #218 Decatur Deb

You’re overlooking the obvious plan—doing the classical Democratic election thing, but doing it better. The Trump victory can be seen as an inevitable outcome of disengaging large numbers of people from the process that got us to 2008. If we learn from that, the setback is temporary. If we don’t, the only alternative is revolution and technology has put us beyond the age of romantic revolution.

Recall George Carlin’s quote: ‘Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.’

Now combine that with an electoral system that that gives the stupid half a majority of the electoral vote and you have Trump in a nutshell…

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ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:36:29am

You know what gives me hope?

There was a piece I saw on TV the other day that I can’t find that had a panel of Trump voters asked how they feel about Trump now. Every one of them had some pretty pointed criticisms of Trump and the GOP and how they felt bad they voted for him.

Do a You Tube search on Trump Voter Regret. There are a lot of voters expressing regret. But most of the videos are at best two months old. The one I saw the other day was new and even more critical and full of conflicted people.

There will be more and more, especially as they learn what the GOP is doing to them with the ‘tax reform.’

What was it, 170,000 votes that turned the election? I’m thinking there are already 500,000 that realized they fucked up spread over three states.

Yeah. This is what gives me hope…rose colored glasses and all.

People make mistakes. Then they hopefully learn. I am not going to abandon them. I am going to try to help them learn. As many as I can…away from here.

Well, time to cut the blather. I have some things to do outside trying to wrap up my outside dormer rebuild on This Old House.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:36:40am

re: #219 makeitstop

And let’s not mention that giving up on the democratic process is exactly what the Trump Cult and their enablers want us to do.

They’re betting on fatigue and disillusion. I refuse to give them even that.

Apathy is the most effective form of voter suppression.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:37:53am

re: #221 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s the thing, though - it goes beyond forcing yourself on an unwilling partner. It’s jokes and comments and looks and a thousand other little things.

You mean basic courtesy, respect and human decency? I am afraid I am also terribly afflicted with that due to my upbringing.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:37:58am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

Michael Bolton co-wrote a KISS song?!

Well I’ll be damned…..I had no idea.

Hey, Dee Snider from Twisted Sister wrote a Christmas song - and Celine Dion recorded it!

Show biz is full of weird stuff like that.

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Skip Intro  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:38:34am

re: #225 Belafon

They’re succeeding in the dark recesses by appointing cabinet members to destroy what they’re supposed to protecting, appointing incompetent hack RWNJ attorneys to lifetime positions on the bench, gutting our connections with what were once our allies, they’re using the Heartland Institute to dismantle all activities aimed at planning for climate change, let alone trying to do something to stop it.

They’re colluding with the Russians, the Chinese, and other enemies of the US. They’re working to prevent the “wrong” people from voting, to destroy the mission of the FCC, and the FDA.

But mainly they’re working to enrich the Trumps and everyone like them at the expense of everyone else. They’re doing this every single day, seven days a week, and most of it never gets noticed or reported by the MSM.

That’s what they’re doing and they’re damned good at it. If anyone here has a realistic idea how to stop this I’d sure like to hear about it.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:39:57am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Recall George Carlin’s quote: ‘Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.’

Now combine that with an electoral system that that gives the stupid half a majority of the electoral vote and you have Trump in a nutshell…

And yet the whole of democratic ideology is based on the inevitable wisdom of herds of morons. And there’s nothing better to turn to.

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ObserverArt  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:41:34am

re: #237 makeitstop

Hey, Dee Snider from Twisted Sister wrote a Christmas song - and Celine Dion recorded it!

Show biz is full of weird stuff like that.

A good song is a good song. That is what I love about songs. Three to five minutes of good art that can be appreciated by everyone and can be interpreted across music styles.

And you can tuck a message in there. Art. Love it.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:41:44am
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Kragar  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:42:04am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:42:08am

re: #239 Decatur Deb

And yet the whole of democratic ideology is based on the inevitable wisdom of herds of morons. And there’s nothing better to turn to.

Modern democracy requires a literate and educated electorate. When that goes downhill, democracy suffers. And as long as education is not seen as an investment in society but as an overhead cost that is to be kept to a minimum, then things will continue to go downhill

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:42:17am

re: #231 sagehen

I like this one:

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I’ve met Ace a few times. He’s a little, umm, scrambled, but he’s a good guy. He’s the king of corny jokes.

Ace Frehley makes a joke Pt 4 (Kiss)

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The Major  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:43:31am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:44:12am

re: #245 The Major

Typo.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:44:23am

re: #215 Kragar

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“But I’d then vote for him.” //

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The Major  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:45:01am

re: #246 Dr. Matt

I see it…

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:46:11am

re: #241 FormerDirtDart

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Now that is a truly great use of the 280-character Twitter limit.

Kudos.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:46:24am

re: #238 Skip Intro

That’s what they’re doing and they’re damned good at it. If anyone here has a realistic idea how to stop this I’d sure like to hear about it.

GOTV and send them packing. There are more of us than there are of them.

Then start the heavy lifting of reversing what can be reversed.

It ain’t an instant fix (which a lot of people seem to be looking for), but it’s the best one we’ve got.

I’ll say it again. American democracy and the Rule of Law are stronger than some punk-ass old reality TV star.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:48:22am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Modern democracy requires a literate and educated electorate. When that goes downhill, democracy suffers. And as long as education is not seen as an investment in society but as an overhead cost that is to be kept to a minimum, then things will continue to go downhill

Looking at the largely successful history of our country, it’s obvious that a lot of democracy depends on dumb luck.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:50:24am

re: #251 Decatur Deb

Looking at the largely successful history of our country, it’s obvious that a lot of democracy depends on dumb luck.

The fact that humanity has survived at all is chiefly thanks to dumb luck

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:51:12am
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jaunte  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:51:40am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:52:47am

A Panama tower carries Trump’s name and ties to organized crime

When Ivanka Trump flew here in 2006 to push her family’s latest business project — an oceanfront steel and glass tower called the Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower, shaped like a sail and designed to be one of the tallest buildings in Latin America — a Brazilian real estate salesman named Alexandre Ventura Nogueira says he was ready with a sales pitch.

[…]

“The agreement was, I had a week to sell 100 units,” Ventura said in a recent interview with NBC News. “I said, ‘I’m going to do better, I’m going to sell without telling (the buyers) the price.”

Ventura did sell the initial units, and later hundreds more. He is now a fugitive. In May 2009, Ventura was arrested in Panama for real estate fraud, unrelated to the Trump project. Mauricio Ceballos, a former financial crimes prosecutor in Panama who investigated Ventura, said that dozens of complaints against Ventura crossed his desk accusing him of double- and triple-selling apartments, both at the Trump Ocean Club and other developments.

Ventura eventually fled Panama while out on bail. He denied having defrauded his clients but admitted to NBC News that he has participated in money laundering on behalf of corrupt Panamanian politicians, unrelated to the building project.

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:52:49am

re: #254 jaunte

“Because we no longer allow slavery, having a man force himself on young women is the closest we can get to so many people being related to one man.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:52:50am

re: #254 jaunte

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Hahaha okay lady. But tell me more about how the left worshipped Obama.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:54:01am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:54:16am

re: #254 jaunte

“Roy Moore is the closest thing to a founding father that we’ve had in our time,” says Women for Moore event speaker.

She does have a point: Sally Hemings was no older than 15 when Thomas Jefferson first raped her…

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:54:19am

re: #254 jaunte

“Roy Moore is the closest thing to a founding father that we’ve had in our time,” says Women for Moore event speaker.

More like the closest thing to a Creepy Uncle.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:55:04am

re: #254 jaunte

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I’m guessing Ben Franklin comparison.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:55:16am

Roy Moore: “Where’s the “Teens for Moore” rally at?”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:55:50am

re: #254 jaunte

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As I sadly pointed out before, the majority of white women in the US fit in the Kim Davis mold

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:56:44am

re: #255 Dr. Matt

A Panama tower carries Trump’s name and ties to organized crime

This is the point that trump tells us he “is not a crook!”?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:57:28am

re: #254 jaunte

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Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:58:08am

re: #265 Dr. Matt

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Roughly the same time he chooses to drop out of the race.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:58:13am

re: #254 jaunte

“Roy Moore is the closest thing to a founding father that we’ve had in our time,” says Women for Moore event speaker.

Think of him more as a Founding Creepy Uncle.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:58:28am

Apparently there are about 30 women in Alabama that Roy Moore didn’t bother.

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:58:46am

re: #239 Decatur Deb

And yet the whole of democratic ideology is based on the inevitable wisdom of herds of morons. And there’s nothing better to turn to.

The power of democracy has never been to elect good government. Trump is only the worst of a long line of terrible people that have been democratically elected the world over.

The power of democracy is to get rid of bad government. It lies in the peaceful transfer of power and the ability to get rid of corrupt and evil people without resorting to force of arms. The most dangerous thing about the current regime is not the evil things they do on a daily basis, despite how awful they are. It is the willingness of Bannon and those like him to end the rule of law and deconstruct the state; to declare themselves above the law and prevent any transfer of power.

It is not a coincidence that Putin is heavily associated with this regime. The Russian style of dictatorship with sham elections is their short term goal. Note the ‘short term’ part of that - that is their goal within the timeframe of the Trump presidency. Bannon believes that the American people and the centres of power in America are ready to accept it, not in ten years, not in five years, but today.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:59:17am

re: #262 jaunte

Roy Moore: “Where’s the “Teens for Moore” rally at?”

The mall.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2017 • 9:59:22am

barf

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:01:01am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

barf

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She goes on to say…and he seduced me when I was sweet 16…

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:01:33am

Kayla Moore was 2nd runner-up in the Miss Alabama US Teen pageant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:02:02am

No

Just, NO

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:02:50am

Kayla Moore thinks Obama is a sekrit Muslim.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:03:27am

re: #273 jaunte

Kayla Moore was 2nd runner-up in the Miss Alabama US Teen pageant.

Our recently-booted governor’s mistress/employee was a former Miss Alabama.

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Targetpractice  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:04:07am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

No

Just, NO

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WTF?!

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:04:21am

re: #276 Decatur Deb

Not Miss Teen Alabama?

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:05:37am

re: #268 jaunte

Apparently there are about 30 women in Alabama that Roy Moore didn’t bother.

TBH, they all look way too old.
/

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:05:47am

re: #278 jaunte

Not Miss Teen Alabama?

I think not, will check. That’s Bentley, the guy trapped by his wife’s smartphone.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:07:00am

re: #275 jaunte

Kayla Moore thinks Obama is a sekrit Muslim.

JFC.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:07:07am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

barf

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“There is a special place in hell for women that don’t help other women.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:09:00am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

No

Just, NO

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Why….

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:09:24am

Looks like someone is hearing footsteps behind him…

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:09:24am

re: #278 jaunte

Not Miss Teen Alabama?

Nope. Miss Alabama contestant, 1990.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:10:08am

Roy Moore’s foundation shared a video in 2015 calling Obama a Muslim
By Andrew Kaczynski and Chris Massie, CNN

“…Moore’s wife, Kayla Moore, who has served as the president of the foundation since 2013, also shared the video on her personal Facebook and on the wall of the Friends of Roy Moore Facebook group the same day the foundation shared the video.
Opening and closing to ominous music, the video itself presents a version of the widespread but baseless conspiracy theory that Obama, a Christian, is secretly a Muslim. The video shows the then-President praising the historical legacy of the Islamic faith and the contributions of Muslims to the United States and American culture, while displaying text asking if he had ever praised America or Christianity in “similar glowing words.”

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:11:37am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meh, that’s nothing.

Try a Facehugger Thanksgiving turkey this year.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:11:48am

re: #286 jaunte

Roy Moore’s foundation shared a video in 2015 calling Obama a Muslim
By Andrew Kaczynski and Chris Massie, CNN

Moore bitches about America far more than Obama does.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:13:00am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

I have no doubt Moore would lead a bloody purge of the unfaithful if he ever got the chance.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:14:02am

re: #289 jaunte

I have no doubt Moore would lead a bloody purge of the unfaithful if he ever got the chance.

Correct

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lawhawk  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:15:02am

Moore’s again attacking the women who have accused him of abusing them. Moore’s wife then comes out and attacks these women again, trotting out another bunch of women who claim to vouch for Moore’s character.

Yeah, doesn’t take away from any of these women’s claims - not that AL GOPers give a shit. Nothing in the accusers’ stories have been rebutted or found inconsistent with what we know about Moore to date.

That there are other women who haven’t been abused/harassed doesn’t mean a goddamned thing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:16:05am

re: #289 jaunte

I have no doubt Moore would lead a bloody purge of the unfaithful if he ever got the chance.

And what would Milo, Hoft and Thiel do if Roy Moore tossed them into a “Christian Re-education Camp”?

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lawhawk  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:18:54am

Yeah, I’m a little late to this tweet:

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:19:05am

How to write a tweet with context:

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:20:05am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

Meh, that’s nothing.

Try a Facehugger Thanksgiving turkey this year.

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Well Halo there

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:22:24am

re: #294 jaunte

How to write a tweet with context:

So, what Trump is saying is that Franken grabbed the wrong part?

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wrenchwench  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:39:12am
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Kragar  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:40:06am
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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:41:45am
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Kragar  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:42:31am

Still no walkthru…

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jeffreyw  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:42:40am

Ham and Motherfuckers

Imgur


For all of the Viet Nam vets out there.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:43:51am

re: #298 Kragar

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Here’s a good thread explaining the difference between a ‘request’ and a subpoena, and why it’s important.

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:45:23am

re: #302 makeitstop

Here’s a good thread explaining the difference between a ‘request’ and a subpoena, and why it’s important.

What if Trump is Rick Sanchez and this whole thing is a setup to separate Ivanka and Jared? It’s not like Rick wouldn’t wipe out an entire planet to do it.

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piratedan  Nov 17, 2017 • 10:54:06am

It strikes me that the timeline window is shrinking rapidly…

if the “tax reform” bill dies in the Senate, then the GOP dismantling of the US for their co-owners, Russian and the Conservative Rich is slowed considerably, which means that the domestic end of the stool will fail (the deplorables, the wealthy and the Russians each comprising a leg) and the whole thing topples over because Mueller and the investigations will end this administration, the GOP and their media empire.

Putin still wins because it will take decades to repair what was once built and the trust that was lost. That takes time and a commitment of leaders to actually want to fix things and what get fixed first? the Supreme Court? the voting rights? pay equality? tax codes? guns? the government agencies themselves?

so many tasks and all of them a priority… and this doesn’t even take into account that Putin wont stop and who’s to say that the Chinese and any number of other potential players, (the Isrealis, The Indians, The Saudis, The Iranians, etc) don’t also buy themselves into the great game.

going to be an incredible next 360 days…

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Kilroy was here  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:01:00am

LA radio station: We tipped off ‘news partners’ before publishing Franken allegations

A Los Angeles radio station is pushing back on reports that former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone appeared to know sexual misconduct allegations involving Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) were coming hours before they were made public.

In a statement Friday, KABC said a “very small group” of employees discussed the best day for host Leeann Tweeden to come forward with her account of being forcibly kissed and groped by Franken in 2006.

thehill.com

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danarchy  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:01:16am

re: #95 Bubblehead II

Ummm, given all the discussion that has gone on here today about sexual harassment, that comment is, shall we say to put it mildly, a bit tone deaf. Ah fuck it. Why the fuck did you think it’s O.K to post such a misogynistic piece of crap like that? Here of all places?

OK, first I request no one jump down my throat here, just trying to learn so I don’t make the same mistake again. I’m watching a video, I see someone who is wearing what looks to me to be uncomfortably tight to the point of restricting circulation pants. It makes me think of the scene in Dazed and Confused where the one girl has to have her friend help her zip up her jeans with a pair of pliers, thus the comment.

Now I see people commenting on how people are dressed all day long here on LGF, suits too big, ties too long, heels are too high, seams aren’t straight, looks like a Bond villain, looks like that shirt just came out of a hamper etc.

Am I just not allowed to comment on how a woman is dressed at all? I can assure you if Stephen Colbert decided to wear skinny jeans to do his show people would be commenting. So where was I out of bounds?

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BeachDem  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:01:43am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

barf

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The cross earrings are an especially nice touch.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:02:31am

re: #304 piratedan

If the tax bill dies, the ramifications will be pretty extreme.

We already know that if Republicans can’t get it done, they’ll lose most if not all of their big donors. Without that flow of cash, every single Republican will be a potential targeting via primary and third-party opposition, which will only serve to split the vote if Democrats are organized enough to get people to the polls.

And if the tax bill fails, it’s almost certain that Trump’s support in Congress will evaporate pretty quickly. It’s the only reason they’re keeping quiet and letting him be the asshole that he is. Take away the promise of all that campaign cash, and they have no reason whatsoever to keep his crazy old ass around. Impeachment then becomes a real possibility, even without a Dem majority in the House.

This is why they’re so desperate to get the tax bill signed into law - they could be facing extinction as a party if it doesn’t happen.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:03:36am

re: #305 Kilroy was here

LA radio station: We tipped off ‘news partners’ before publishing Franken allegations

thehill.com

I’m guessing someone at an ABC affiliate has Roger Stone in their contacts.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:03:55am

re: #305 Kilroy was here

LA radio station: We tipped off ‘news partners’ before publishing Franken allegations

thehill.com

Then that should pare down the suspect pool.

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gocart mozart  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:04:05am

re: #297 wrenchwench

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:05:59am

re: #309 makeitstop

I’m guessing someone at an ABC affiliate has Roger Stone in their contacts.

KABC is your typical Republican Disinformation Station.

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gocart mozart  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:06:04am

re: #306 danarchy

For what it’s worth, I didn’t think you said anything wrong.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:08:02am

Potential perjury alert…

Was Kush under oath for this? Hm.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:08:20am

re: #299 makeitstop

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isn’t that two down? sen ron johnson also said he isn’t voting for it

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:08:21am

re: #254 jaunte

Founding, fondling, whatever…

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ericblair  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:08:27am

re: #304 piratedan

if the “tax reform” bill dies in the Senate, then the GOP dismantling of the US for their co-owners, Russian and the Conservative Rich is slowed considerably, which means that the domestic end of the stool will fail (the deplorables, the wealthy and the Russians each comprising a leg) and the whole thing topples over because Mueller and the investigations will end this administration, the GOP and their media empire.

Failure of tax deform, which looks likely, means the Republicans are useless to everyone except the deplorables, who themselves are useless.

Looks like Trump appears useless to Putin now, because he can’t get much of anything done for the Kremlin. The Russian government thinks that every country operates like they do, and institutions are always just shams, so they look bewildered about why Trump can’t just lock up his enemies and ignore his adversaries. Veselnitskaya (the Russian lawyer) and Kislyak (the ambassador) seem to be tossing Trump publicly under the bus, and I’m guessing Moscow thinks Pence or Mueller are planning a coup and they could get in good with the new guy.

All of these assholes are ruthless thieves who have been believing their own bullshit for way too long.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:09:53am

re: #314 makeitstop

Potential perjury alert…

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Was Kush under oath for this? Hm.

I did not have digital relations with that person.

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Skip Intro  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:12:09am

re: #314 makeitstop

Potential perjury alert…

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Was Kush under oath for this? Hm.

Perjury laws only apply to human beings.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:12:10am

re: #314 makeitstop

Potential perjury alert…

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Was Kush under oath for this? Hm.

I don’t think it matters. It is lying to FBI investigators and is on the record.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:14:46am

re: #316 Grunthos the Flatulent

Moore, the Foundling Fondler.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:16:55am

re: #317 ericblair

The Russian government thinks that every country operates like they do, and institutions are always just shams, so they look bewildered about why Trump can’t just lock up his enemies and ignore his adversaries.

Similarly, Trump doesn’t understand that he cannot run the US government like his businesses, where his word is the final word and he can’t summarily dismiss people like he did on TV. I think he’ll learn that in a hurry if the tax bill doesn’t go through.

All of these assholes are ruthless thieves who have been believing their own bullshit for way too long.

Trump included.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:17:50am

re: #314 makeitstop

Potential perjury alert…

Was Kush under oath for this? Hm.

I don’t recall if Jared was on Dotard Jr’s Wiki-distribution list.
Anyone?
Without an actual paper trail, or self incrimination, proving perjury isn’t easy

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wrenchwench  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:22:03am

re: #311 gocart mozart

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Is that danarchy?

re: #313 gocart mozart

For what it’s worth, I didn’t think you said anything wrong.

Ooops, guess not

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Stanley Sea  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:23:13am

re: #323 FormerDirtDart

I don’t recall if Jared was on Dotard Jr’s Wiki-distribution list.
Anyone?
Without an actual paper trail, or self incrimination, proving perjury isn’t easy

I believe he was, along with kellyanne & bannon

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:23:41am

re: #323 FormerDirtDart

I don’t recall if Jared was on Dotard Jr’s Wiki-distribution list.
Anyone?
Without an actual paper trail, or self incrimination, proving perjury isn’t easy

I believe he was. Could be wrong, though.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:24:48am

re: #234 ObserverArt

You know what gives me hope?

There was a piece I saw on TV the other day that I can’t find that had a panel of Trump voters asked how they feel about Trump now. Every one of them had some pretty pointed criticisms of Trump and the GOP and how they felt bad they voted for him.

Do a You Tube search on Trump Voter Regret. There are a lot of voters expressing regret. But most of the videos are at best two months old. The one I saw the other day was new and even more critical and full of conflicted people.

There will be more and more, especially as they learn what the GOP is doing to them with the ‘tax reform.’

What was it, 170,000 votes that turned the election? I’m thinking there are already 500,000 that realized they fucked up spread over three states.

Yeah. This is what gives me hope…rose colored glasses and all.

People make mistakes. Then they hopefully learn. I am not going to abandon them. I am going to try to help them learn. As many as I can…away from here.

Well, time to cut the blather. I have some things to do outside trying to wrap up my outside dormer rebuild on This Old House.

Not to mention the people who probably regret voting for Gary Johnson and Jill Stein.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:27:43am

Aspersions on his asparagus!

Facebook Post

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:28:08am

re: #238 Skip Intro

They’re succeeding in the dark recesses by appointing cabinet members to destroy what they’re supposed to protecting, appointing incompetent hack RWNJ attorneys to lifetime positions on the bench, gutting our connections with what were once our allies, they’re using the Heartland Institute to dismantle all activities aimed at planning for climate change, let alone trying to do something to stop it.

They’re colluding with the Russians, the Chinese, and other enemies of the US. They’re working to prevent the “wrong” people from voting, to destroy the mission of the FCC, and the FDA.

But mainly they’re working to enrich the Trumps and everyone like them at the expense of everyone else. They’re doing this every single day, seven days a week, and most of it never gets noticed or reported by the MSM.

That’s what they’re doing and they’re damned good at it. If anyone here has a realistic idea how to stop this I’d sure like to hear about it.

We use the courts to battle the illegal stuff, then work to win back Congress in 2018, then the White House in 2020. And a big part of that is winning as many local elections as possible, so Democrats have a government role in protecting voter rights and redistricting after the 2020 census.

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plansbandc  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:28:12am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

YUM!!

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:29:23am

Because I wasn’t pay attention, I missed the release of Your Name on dvd. It came out the 7th. I bought a copy online this morning - I actually work up and thought “Did it come out yet?” - through Best Buy so I can pick it up at the local store after work.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:29:30am

re: #306 danarchy

Am I just not allowed to comment on how a woman is dressed at all? I can assure you if Stephen Colbert decided to wear skinny jeans to do his show people would be commenting. So where was I out of bounds?

No, you can make any observation about a woman’s clothing you want. But you (and others) do so at your own risk. There are nine other individuals besides me who found your comment at a minimum tone deaf (given yesterday thread about sexual harassment) and down dinged you. Hell, Charles even gave you a WTF post.

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makeitstop  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:29:55am

Assholes gonna asshole, Norm Coleman edition:

The man that Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) defeated in his 2008 race told TPM Friday that one of the closest Senate races in history likely would have gone his way had Franken’s sexual harassment been public at the time.

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ericblair  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:30:02am

re: #323 FormerDirtDart

Without an actual paper trail, or self incrimination, proving perjury isn’t easy

I think we’ll find a fair bit of this crap, because the Trumpies are dumb and sloppy. And you can’t cryptically hint at things, because it goes right over their pointy little heads. So, it’s FW:FW:RE:FW BIG RUSSIA CONSPIRING STUFF MEETING!!!1!

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Dave In Austin  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:30:52am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:31:17am

I see on FB that Jim Wright spent a lot of words (but then, when doesn’t he?) trying to dispel the notion that we can tell from the photo that Franken didn’t actually grope Tweeden. “The camera only catches an instant, we don’t know what happened in the seconds before and after, etc.”

Here’s the thing - Tweeden only asserts that he groped her in her sleep based on the picture. She didn’t say she woke up to find his hands on her. She specifically states that the only way she knew about it was seeing the picture later. Unless she’s an amazingly deep sleeper, in an upright position in an airplane in mid flight, I’m pretty sure any actual contact would have awakened her.

We’ve all agreed that it’s an unfunny, degrading joke, but like writing on somebody’s face while they sleep, it only works - the extent it works at all - if they stay asleep. That’s why he’s posed with his hands hovering above her chest, and why you wouldn’t actually grab.

Now, if Tweeden said, “I woke up to find his hands on my breasts”, that would be a WHOLE ‘nother matter. But that’s not the accusation.

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:32:16am

re: #333 makeitstop

Assholes gonna asshole, Norm Coleman edition:

He’s probably right. And that’s political reality right there. Imagine the US if a lot of what Obama accomplished wasn’t allowed to happen.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:36:12am

re: #333 makeitstop

Assholes gonna asshole, Norm Coleman edition:

Even though Norm and his “wife” didn’t live together…

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Kilroy was here  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:37:20am

re: #336 Blind Frog Belly White

I hate to get into this again.. She is wearing body armor.
That is 25 to 35 mm of semi rigid Kevlar and padding.
As someone who has worn something similar you aren’t getting molested through it.

Still a tasteless joke photo..

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danarchy  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:37:37am

re: #332 Bubblehead II

Am I just not allowed to comment on how a woman is dressed at all? I can assure you if Stephen Colbert decided to wear skinny jeans to do his show people would be commenting. So where was I out of bounds?

No, you can make any observation about a woman’s clothing you want. But you (and others) do so at your own risk. There are nine other individuals besides me who found your comment at a minimum tone deaf (given yesterday thread about sexual harassment) and down dinged you. Hell, Charles even gave you a WTF post.

I get that and that is why I am asking because it seemed to bother a number of people and I’d rather not stumble in to it again. Just saying it was tone deaf doesn’t help me understand why because to me it seemed pretty innocent. What exactly was bothersome so I don’t do it again?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:39:03am

re: #335 Dave In Austin

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:39:35am

re: #335 Dave In Austin

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Let me start by saying that I find trophy hunting hard to defend at all, and really hard to defend as a pastime for rich fucks to prove their manliness.

That said, a number of poor nations in Africa have populations of animals that need to be managed, because they have human populations that need to live, to grow food, etc. and wildlife populations cannot grow beyond certain limits without negative consequences. At the same time, these countries don’t have much money.

So, they have a resource for which people will pay, and a need for cash. Trophy hunting addresses both. If we want to end trophy hunting, we need to come up with some equally lucrative way for these countries to use these resources, and not merely tell them they have to stay poor because we like elephants and lions.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:45:26am

re: #340 danarchy

I get that and that is why I am asking because it seemed to bother a number of people and I’d rather not stumble in to it again. Just saying it was tone deaf doesn’t help me understand why because to me it seemed pretty innocent. What exactly was bothersome so I don’t do it again?

I took it as you found her wearing tight jeans to be somehow inappropriate/unprofessional for a woman. The others probably have their own reasons.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:46:56am

re: #340 danarchy

I get that and that is why I am asking because it seemed to bother a number of people and I’d rather not stumble in to it again. Just saying it was tone deaf doesn’t help me understand why because to me it seemed pretty innocent. What exactly was bothersome so I don’t do it again?

My read is that commenting on women’s clothing, particularly in a way that seems sexual (which how tight the pants are is generally regarded as), is going to be a landmine and is better off avoided. You might have done a little better if you’d included the movie reference in the first post, but I don’t know.

I get why you’re asking and I wish I had better guidance to give you. I think the most I can say is the initial comment perhaps came across as more sexual than you intended because of the wording you chose and the events over the past day.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 17, 2017 • 11:53:12am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 17, 2017 • 12:05:32pm

re: #294 jaunte

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 17, 2017 • 12:05:46pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

The mall.

rim shot

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austin_blue  Nov 17, 2017 • 12:06:51pm

re: #301 jeffreyw

Ham and Motherfuckers

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For all of the Viet Nam vets out there.

H&M was ham and limas.

Ick. We were still eating them in 1980 in the AF for in-flight meals.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 17, 2017 • 12:09:23pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

barf

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 17, 2017 • 12:12:21pm

re: #182 Targetpractice

Why does this women keep getting interviewed?

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So according to Kellywise, a story 8 days old is unworthy of Donny’s attention. But conspiracy theories from 2 years ago, 7 years ago, and 20+ years ago…well, those he had time for.

I don’t know, but I think the camera and lighting people are working to make her look as evil as she is.


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