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JordanRules  Dec 11, 2017 • 7:53:28pm
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JordanRules  Dec 11, 2017 • 7:54:01pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 11, 2017 • 7:55:06pm

I’m just in awe of seeing Republicans go so low that they’ve broken past the bottom of the barrel!

Roy Moore So Horny!

Roy Moore Love You Long Time!

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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 7:56:38pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 11, 2017 • 7:57:54pm

Here’s a bit on Sir Charles (ya, I’m an old fan, fight me)

add to it the posting of Ziegler.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 11, 2017 • 7:57:56pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

It’s time to raise General Sherman from the dead!

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mmmirele  Dec 11, 2017 • 7:59:13pm

re: #1 JordanRules

Which gave us this unforgettable meme:

Yeah, you forgot.
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JordanRules  Dec 11, 2017 • 7:59:28pm
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jaunte  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:00:29pm

re: #8 JordanRules

c) “Maybe Putin is right.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:01:24pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:01:54pm

re: #8 JordanRules

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Works for them

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stpaulbear  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:02:43pm

re: #2 JordanRules

Who’s going to buy it? He’s no hero to the right, the left knows he’s full of shit. He’ll appear on every single news and entertainment show, but nobody will care. I can’t even see the wingnut welfare deep pockets giving a damn about him. His book will vanish in a week unless he really dishes on Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:02:57pm

Piyush Jindal said that the Republicans have to stop being the Stupid Party.

He’s right.

They’ve become the Asshole Party!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:05:52pm

re: #2 JordanRules

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He can’t use his notes turned over to Mueller, so bad book.

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jaunte  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:06:07pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:07:02pm

re: #15 jaunte

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:09:55pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:10:14pm

This is where I’m moving to when trump declares himself el Supremo for life.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:13:38pm

I heard this father cry from his heart about his daughter’s death. It truly moved me because it takes a real man to stand up and say he loved his child no matter what other misguided idiots may say. He loved her and he knew that she wasn’t evil. My heart goes out to him tonight…

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Kragar  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:15:55pm
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Kragar  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:18:42pm
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jaunte  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:20:07pm
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:20:39pm

Moore did it, he just doesn’t see anything wrong with it, hence the denials of wrongdoing.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:20:55pm

re: #22 jaunte

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My favorite was when his campaign said that he had millions of non-accusers.

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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:21:55pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:23:49pm

re: #15 jaunte

“What story can I tell that will best illustrate Roy Moore’s integrity?” “How about the one where the two of you left a third buddy to rape children in a Vietnamese brothel?”

The cherry on the top of this little morality tale: Moore was the commander of a Military Police company. The prick was charged with keeping this shit from happening.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:24:17pm

Obviously I want Moore to get smoked tomorrow because he’s a piece of shit and Jones would make a good senator. But I also want to see Trump lose his last two marbles and it won’t cost me a ruble to see it.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:24:20pm

Since I am more Jew, my opinion wins!

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JordanRules  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:24:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:25:28pm

re: #28 Ace-o-aces

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Since I am more Jew, my opinion wins!

Such a stupid defense.

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Kragar  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:31:51pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:31:59pm

The circle of derp gets completed yet again.

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jaunte  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:33:55pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:34:19pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

The circle of derp gets completed yet again.

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Why am I not surprised to see Greenwald embrace a real Feminazi?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:36:01pm

re: #28 Ace-o-aces

Something tells me Mr. Kidney did the 23 and Me Test and threw a fit when it came back that his DNA was .05% Ashkenazi Jewish…

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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:37:59pm

Interesting point.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:38:14pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹

Something tells me Mr. Kidney did the 23 and Me Test and threw a fit when it came back that his DNA was .05% Ashkenazi Jewish…

I actually have the name Kidney in my tree. Hope I’m not related to this Moore apologist.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:39:14pm

re: #33 jaunte

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Back when the Republican party had some note I said some decency they endorsed a Democrat over a KKK guy. That KKK guy? David Duke and he loves what Trump ahs done for the GOP and right wing movement.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:39:27pm

Doesn’t matter. She still stinks…

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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:40:26pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:40:50pm

re: #1 JordanRules

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Still in my “Funny” image folder years later:

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retired cynic  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:41:19pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

As someone quoted not long ago, I am not optimistic, but I am hopeful.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:43:44pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:45:02pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:50:33pm

Animal Mother has opinions.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:51:10pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

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Seems to me Moore was Neidermeier and a more creepy version of Bluto. Just like Trump is a more fucked up version of Marmaland.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:51:59pm

Whatever it takes to get another D in the Senate (and it’s still close), but it’s disheartening that a person as odious as Roy Moore would be a shoo in for the seat if only he dated adults.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:52:13pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

Animal Mother has opinions.

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Did you talk that way to Laura and Barbara Bush, Adam or do you only save that pathetic shit for pro-choice Dems? Oh and “love”, yeah Roy Moore sure “loves” children, he loves to pray on them. And stop calling yourself a libertarian because you’re nothing but a right wing authoritarian douche.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:53:35pm

re: #47 Mike Lamb

Whatever it takes to get another D in the Senate (and it’s still close), but it’s disheartening that a person as odious as Roy Moore would be a shoo in for the seat if only he dated adults.

I know what you mean. There’s a lot wrong with Moore but this really the tip of the iceberg. He opposed all the amendments post Bill of Rights, he thinks the slavery era was a great time, he violated twice his oath on the Supreme Court of Alabama, etc. That this is even close is depressing and I’m sorry Alabama lizards but it says a lot about Alabama because Doug Jones is the kind of man every state should be sending to office.

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Kragar  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:55:58pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:57:49pm

re: #50 Kragar

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“Moore wants children loved.”

Bad choice of words.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 11, 2017 • 8:59:37pm

Roy’s real Ten Commandments!

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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 9:02:12pm

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The lack of snow, it’s bad.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 11, 2017 • 9:06:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 11, 2017 • 9:07:18pm

The American Religious Right: We need bathroom laws to protect CHILDREN from sexual predators. We need to criminalize being gay because gay people are child predators. But also the American religious right, Roy Moore dating high school girls in his early 30’s is no big deal and those girls should have felt honored to have him want them. I genuinely feel that the religious right is the most poisonous and disgusting force in American politics and I blame Reagan, the Bushes, the GOP as a whole, and now Trump for pandering to them. I really would love a Democratic candidate one day to say basically “Fuck you guys, you’re neither religious nor right, just a bunch of hateful assholes.” They don’t deserve respect.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 11, 2017 • 9:13:18pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 9:15:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 11, 2017 • 9:15:45pm

re: #56 FormerDirtDart

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Gah don’t make me defend Ivanka Trump here, Walsh and you were looking so good after the defense of Mueller last week. Ivanka doesn’t celebrate Christmas. In fact her December holiday IS before Christmas this year as it usually is. Stupid thing to go after a Jewish woman for even if it is a hack like Ivanka. Or I dunno, maybe Walsh is mocking the fact that Ivanka’s dad is the “one” who “brought back” Merry Christmas but I don’t think Walsh is that clever.

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JordanRules  Dec 11, 2017 • 9:25:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 11, 2017 • 9:28:32pm

re: #59 JordanRules

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Hope so too.

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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 9:47:41pm
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blueraven  Dec 11, 2017 • 9:47:59pm

hmmm…

“This guy’s obviously a very bad actor,” Scaramucci said of Lizza. “Karma’s a bitch. It’ll come back and bite him. You’ll see.

“You’re a transactional guy,” Scaramucci added. “And you’re gonna have a transactional, miserable life.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 11, 2017 • 9:59:22pm

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JordanRules  Dec 11, 2017 • 10:00:00pm
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JordanRules  Dec 11, 2017 • 10:01:06pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 10:01:07pm
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scottslemmons  Dec 11, 2017 • 10:23:16pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

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Damn, I haven’t heard of James Lileks in ages. Not even Roy Edroso makes fun of him anymore. Did he retire or just migrate down to even more rotten publications?

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JordanRules  Dec 11, 2017 • 10:25:48pm
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Teukka  Dec 11, 2017 • 10:27:41pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 10:39:26pm

re: #19 Joe Bacon 🌹

This video made me weepy. This guy is truly torn apart and seeking some form of redemption just by hearing the tone of his voice, shaky but unwavering, with a photograph of his daughter for everyone to see. A brave man who is infinitely more honorable than his future Senator.

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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 10:50:07pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 10:50:57pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2017 • 11:02:12pm
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Kragar  Dec 11, 2017 • 11:21:51pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

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Kragar  Dec 11, 2017 • 11:37:22pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 12, 2017 • 2:07:54am
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I cannot.  Dec 12, 2017 • 2:12:55am

Pulled pizza off pizza stone, sprinkled Italian-style cheese on frozen breadsticks, tossed THEM in the oven, and now, I’m good.

BTW, I love the Meijer brand deli-pizzas, not frozen. They’re almost three pounds.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 12, 2017 • 3:19:13am

:(

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 3:34:36am

re: #78 Single-handed sailor

Looks like Ojai is a little oasis in a hellish inferno of flame.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 3:40:15am

So the GOP have an escape plan should More win, which explains why they still support him: slate.com

Namely, they can expel Moore, the Alabama governor can then name a replacement (obviously a Republican) for a two-year term, which would be enough time to establish himself to win the the next upcoming election in 2020.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 3:52:46am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So the GOP have an escape plan should More win, which explains why they still support him: slate.com

Namely, they can expel Moore, the Alabama governor can then name a replacement (obviously a Republican) for a two-year term, which would be enough time to establish himself to win the the next upcoming election in 2020.

A risky political move, though entirely doable; the base in Alabama would be spitting nails.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 3:56:18am

re: #81 Dr Lizardo

A risky political move, though entirely doable; the base in Alabama would be spitting nails.

They have to look at the bigger picture: by expelling Moore, they could present the image of still having some shreds of moral decency, and in two years, their base will vote for for the Republican senate appointee nonetheless.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:04:04am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have to look at the bigger picture: by expelling Moore, they could present the image of still having some shreds of moral decency, and in two years, their base will vote for for the Republican senate appointee nonetheless.

That’s a good point; if the Alabama base will vote for Moore, they’ll pretty much vote for anyone.

The proposed change in the law wouldn’t come into effect until after the turn of the year, so timing would be crucial; they need to keep Moore on just long enough, say until mid-January or so, then give him the boot. Governor Ivey could then appoint someone to fill the seat until 2020.

I do wonder how Moore’s supporters would react. Personally, I think they’d be livid, but then again, it’s enough time between early next year and November 2020 for tempers to cool.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:07:24am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

I do wonder how Moore’s supporters would react. Personally, I think they’d be livid, but then again, it’s enough time between early next year and November 2020 for tempers to cool.

The will feel upset and betrayed, but not enough to make them vote for any other party in 2020.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:11:22am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The will feel upset and betrayed, but not enough to make them vote for any other party in 2020.

I’d agree - that’s what McConnell is most likely counting on.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:30:55am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:32:32am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:33:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:37:30am

the scammers are back, fouling up out Pages.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:47:29am

Off to vote, then pollwatch in the country. No likely chance to liveblog from the site. (Rules and bandwidth don’t allow.)

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jeffreyw  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:05:57am

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Good morning!

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SteelPH  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:06:40am

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Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:14:52am

re: #91 jeffreyw

Good morning!

looks like a good alabama voting breakfast

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Dave In Austin  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:14:55am

re: #91 jeffreyw

I was just thinking along those lines……..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:19:23am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

looks like a good alabama voting breakfast

needs mohr grits…

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William Lewis  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:20:35am

re: #91 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Looks good. Alas, I have fasting bloodwork to do at 10:00 AM so all I have is a nice mug of black tea. Fortunately I don’t need cream or sugar.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:20:36am

he really is a miserable person.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:22:13am

re: #94 Dave In Austin

I was just thinking along those lines……..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:22:33am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

he really is a miserable person.

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a miserable third-person person

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nowherenorth2  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:23:33am

First real snowfall here in northern ny. Comes after Texas, north Carolina, and other states get hitwiththe weather we are used. Climate change is a myth eh….

Also, judging by the tweets, it will be a fun say for trump.

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I cannot.  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:23:54am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can someone translate that from Fucking Idiotish into English?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:24:01am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:24:48am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

he really is a miserable person.

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He’s a child.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:25:45am

re: #101 I cannot.

Can someone translate that from Fucking Idiotish into English?

sounds like he’s claiming that she came to his office and offered him ANYTHING for money…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:31:20am
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I cannot.  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:33:23am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, and also sounds like he’s also trying to make her sound sneakier and more disloyal than The Woman Running The World From A Secret Pedophilic Pizza Restaurant…while at the same time being a lightweight…

It’s too early for this much dumb.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:34:06am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Because he is an abuser.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:35:08am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:35:16am

Forget about non being presidential, he’s incapable of acting like a human being.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:35:32am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

he really is a miserable person.

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The implication that she’s a prostitute is just….well, unfortunately it’s par for the course.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:36:48am

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They hate “coastal elites” yet venerate Trump too. They radical Islam yet want Christianity to be law.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:37:59am

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Gah don’t make me defend Ivanka Trump here, Walsh and you were looking so good after the defense of Mueller last week. Ivanka doesn’t celebrate Christmas. In fact her December holiday IS before Christmas this year as it usually is. Stupid thing to go after a Jewish woman for even if it is a hack like Ivanka. Or I dunno, maybe Walsh is mocking the fact that Ivanka’s dad is the “one” who “brought back” Merry Christmas but I don’t think Walsh is that clever.

It sounded pretty snarky to me. And there actually have been a couple times recently when deadbeat dad was actually speaking truth — so who knows.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:40:10am

Lre: #112 Hecuba’s daughter

It sounded pretty snarky to me. And there actually have been a couple times recently when deadbeat dad was actually speaking truth — so who knows.

I honestly just don’t know anymore. Strange times we live in.

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I cannot.  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:41:44am

re: #112 Hecuba’s daughter

And this is one of the more bizarre things I hate about this hell administration. I have, on occasion, found myself agreeing with FUCKING JOE WALSH. And approvingly retweeting BILL KRISTOL.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:41:55am

Well wake up SHS, you’ve got another shit to spin as gold. Regardless of her lack of decency, I’d think it be exhausting defending Trump all the time.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:42:46am

re: #114 I cannot.

And this is one of the more bizarre things I hate about this hell administration. I have, on occasion, found myself agreeing with FUCKING JOE WALSH. And approvingly retweeting BILL KRISTOL.

You ain’t kidding.

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nowherenorth2  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:43:27am

cracked.com

Cracked at it again

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:49:23am

No joke, I literally read in the novel about Germany a character saying he’ll (Hitler) would make Germany great again. And then there’s the attempts to rationalize the Nazis violent behavior and blaming victims for their own troubles. This novel, Winter was written in the late 80’s.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:53:31am

re: #2 JordanRules

Do we really need another “Satanic Bible”?

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I cannot.  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:59:54am

re: #117 nowherenorth2

Well, there were a few Trump scams I hadn’t heard of before…the movie studio bit and the crowdfunding one.

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nowherenorth2  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:01:17am

re: #120 I cannot.

I had heard of a few, but that blew my mind at the sheer ridiculousness of some

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:02:02am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So the GOP have an escape plan should More win, which explains why they still support him: slate.com

Namely, they can expel Moore, the Alabama governor can then name a replacement (obviously a Republican) for a two-year term, which would be enough time to establish himself to win the the next upcoming election in 2020.

It’s not like Moore’s ever been expelled from something but elected again. //

I see him running in 2020 if this happens.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:02:56am

re: #117 nowherenorth2

cracked.com

Cracked at it again

Trump is the master of jumping into a saturated market (wine, water, steaks, casinos, magazines, airlines, etc., etc.) and losing money doing it. As someone has argued before, he’d abandoned his wheeler-dealer habits and invested his daddy’s money in a stock index fund, he’d be much wealthier and not in debt to the Russians.

He’s got a gambling addiction.

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nowherenorth2  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:04:16am

re: #123 wheat-dogg

Ahhh never thought of that. Heard about the stock index fund and smart investment.

Heh. Gambling and grifting Donny. Say it ain’t so.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:04:52am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

he really is a miserable person.

Just remember, if you are a woman and have any kind of ambition, Trump is giving men permission to call you a slut.

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I cannot.  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:05:27am

re: #123 wheat-dogg

He’s even worse than dentists. Whenever you hear your dentist invested in something, interrupt your appointment and sell it, somehow, they have the worst timing…

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:06:50am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:07:51am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

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He’s messing with the wrong woman. He really thinks he can bully her.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:09:38am

re: #128 HappyWarrior

He’s messing with the wrong woman. He really thinks he can bully her.

He thinks he’s in charge of the government. And it’s understandable, considering his party stops by to fellate him every day.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:10:01am

re: #128 HappyWarrior

He’s messing with the wrong woman. He really thinks he can bully her.

He thinks he can bully everyone.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:11:15am

re: #123 wheat-dogg

Trump is the master of jumping into a saturated market (wine, water, steaks, casinos, magazines, airlines, etc., etc.) and losing money doing it. As someone has argued before, he’d abandoned his wheeler-dealer habits and invested his daddy’s money in a stock index fund, he’d be much wealthier and not in debt to the Russians.

He’s got a gambling addiction.

But he remains rich so his idiot fans think “He’s successful and a great businessman.” Trump is good at one thing marketing himself, his products less so. I never drank Trump vodka, never ate a Trump steak ,or gambled at a Trump casino. The truth about Trump is he’s someone who really is mediocre and unaccomplished. Contrast that with those he insults i.e. Obama, HRC, Senator Gillibrand, and others. All those men and women have actually done quite well from where they started. Trump thinks he’s Bill Gates but he’s Howard Hughes without the vision and with the madness.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:11:42am

re: #129 Belafon

He thinks he’s in charge of the government. And it’s understandable, considering his party stops by to fellate him every day.

And his allies on FNC who will do anything ot rationalize his crimes against this country.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:11:54am

re: #130 The Vicious Babushka

He thinks he can bully everyone.

Absolutely. He’s a bully pure and simple.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:12:26am

re: #122 Belafon

It’s not like Moore’s ever been expelled from something but elected again. //

I see him running in 2020 if this happens.

by then, there will be another established GOP senator, namely the one the governor would appoint when Moore is expelled. that is part of the plan

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:13:46am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

by then, there will be another established GOP senator, namely the one the governor would appoint when Moore is expelled. that is part of the plan

And I want to see the person survive the Republican primary.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:14:40am

re: #131 HappyWarrior

But he remains rich so his idiot fans think “He’s successful and a great businessman.” Trump is good at one thing marketing himself, his products less so. I never drank Trump vodka, never ate a Trump steak ,or gambled at a Trump casino. The truth about Trump is he’s someone who really is mediocre and unaccomplished. Contrast that with those he insults i.e. Obama, HRC, Senator Gillibrand, and others. All those men and women have actually done quite well from where they started. Trump thinks he’s Bill Gates but he’s Howard Hughes without the vision and with the madness.

More like Willy Loman than Howard Hughes.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:15:05am

The mayor of San Francisco died: sfgate.com

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Weaselone  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:16:46am

re: #137 Belafon

The mayor of San Francisco died: sfgate.com

Oh man. 65 is way too young.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:17:22am

desperation:

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:18:53am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

desperation:

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Let’s hope his streak of endorsement success continues apace.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:20:16am

re: #124 nowherenorth2

Ahhh never thought of that. Heard about the stock index fund and smart investment.

Heh. Gambling and grifting Donny. Say it ain’t so.

It just occurred to me after reading that Cracked article. Rather than wager in the casinos, Donnie bets bigly on extravagant projects intending to outdo the experts at their own game, and win big. And like a gambler with an addiction, he screws up each time. If it weren’t for his real estate to leverage, his quasi-famous name, and his knack of licensing it for others to make money from, he’d be on Skid Row.

Now he can just suck the Treasury dry.

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:20:38am

Have you ever heard of PoliticalDig? This story appears there:

NEWSAssassins Kill ‘Panama Papers’ Journalist Who Linked Ivanka Trump To Russian Money Launderers

Investigative journalist Daphne Caruana Galizia was assassinated in her native Malta after exposing a massive web of corruption through the “Panama Papers,” including a revelation that Ivanka Trump helped her father’s Panama hotel venture with the help of an alleged international fraudster with ties to Russian money launderers.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:20:53am

re: #136 wheat-dogg

More like Willy Loman than Howard Hughes.

I never read Death of a Salesman so I can’t qualify.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:22:21am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

I never read Death of a Salesman so I can’t qualify.

It’s a close match. From the WIkipedia entry:

William “Willy” Loman: The salesman. He is 62 years old and unstable, insecure, and self-deluded. Willy tends to re-imagine events from the past as if they are real. He vacillates between different perceptions of his life. Willy seems childlike and relies on others for support, coupled with his recurring flashbacks to world war two .

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:24:19am

re: #144 wheat-dogg

It’s a close match. From the WIkipedia entry:

Ahhh then yes, good analogy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:25:18am

he’s flailing

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:26:27am

[trump] MOORE WILL ALWAYS VOTE WITH US BUT JONES IS A PUPPET!! [/trump]

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wheat-dogg  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:26:32am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s flailing

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I’m surprised he’s not taking credit for Bitcoin topping $17,000.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:28:21am

re: #148 wheat-dogg

I’m surprised he’s not taking credit for Bitcoin topping $17,000.

he will borrow money from Russia to buy in just before it crashes…

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:28:24am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

Senator Gillibrand is far more diplomatic than I would’ve been; I probably would’ve tweeted Trump back with something to the effect of “LOL you’re senile. Go fuck yourself”.

I’d probably make a lousy politician.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:31:46am

re: #136 wheat-dogg

More like Willy Loman than Howard Hughes.

Or Jack Parsons (founder of JPL) without the ……..”colorful”….eccentricity. No really, Parsons was batshit crazy.

en.wikipedia.org read up on his personal life. Holy shit.

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:32:23am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

I never read Death of a Salesman so I can’t qualify.

Death of a Salesman is a play Happy, written by playwright Arthur Miller. A great American play by one of the best playwrights ever.

I don’t know if it has been published as a book.

Here is a great TV version done back in the 80s with Dustin Hoffman as Willy Loman (“low”man as in down the pecking order), John Malkovich as son Biff, and Kate Reid as Willy’s wife.

Enjoy!

Death of a Salesman 1985

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:33:48am
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ipsos  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:34:25am

re: #142 MsJ

She really was killed, but it isn’t fresh news - happened a couple of months ago IIRC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:35:56am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:36:11am

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

he will borrow money from Russia to buy in just before it crashes…

More likely, he will try to create a Trump-branded alternative to Bitcoin, which will tank like a lead balloon.

There is an actual Trumpcoin, but AFAIK The Donald has nothing to do with it. Its current price is 9 cents.

coinmarketcap.com

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dangerman  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:38:49am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

Senator Gillibrand is far more diplomatic than I would’ve been; I probably would’ve tweeted Trump back with something to the effect of “LOL you’re senile. Go fuck yourself”.

I’d probably make a lousy politician.

Dr L for pres

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Dave In Austin  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:38:53am

Took me a moment…

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:42:01am

re: #158 Dave In Austin

Heh….reminds me of this:

Leaked Star Wars Episode VII Filmset Footage!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:44:43am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:47:50am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

Archie Bunker on The Jews

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:49:02am

re: #152 ObserverArt

Death of a Salesman is a play Happy, written by playwright Arthur Miller. A great American play by one of the best playwrights ever.

I don’t know if it has been published as a book.

Here is a great TV version done back in the 80s with Dustin Hoffman as Willy Loman (“low”man as in down the pecking order), John Malkovich as son Biff, and Kate Reid as Willy’s wife.

Enjoy!

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Oh yeah, I know it’s a play but sometimes plays are read. We read Miller’s Crucible in 11th grade. I’ll look for this version.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:50:34am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

I’d never make it out of the primaries, lol. The first time someone lied about me or went after my family, they would not be able to share my responses on the TV without a LOT of bleeping out my “You fucking lying sacks of shit, fuck you, oh, and FUCK YOU.” And that would be the end of my political career.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:51:56am

re: #163 A Mom Anon

I’d never make it out of the primaries, lol. The first time someone lied about me or went after my family, they would not be able to share my responses on the TV without a LOT of bleeping out my “You fucking lying sacks of shit, fuck you, oh, and FUCK YOU.” And that would be the end of my political career.

I hear ya. I’d probably get tired of right wing hacks attacking me and I’d probably lose my cool.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:52:11am

re: #163 A Mom Anon

I’d never make it out of the primaries, lol. The first time someone lied about me or went after my family, they would not be able to share my responses on the TV without a LOT of bleeping out my “You fucking lying sacks of shit, fuck you, oh, and FUCK YOU.” And that would be the end of my political career.

Same here. I’d go on a Samuel L. Jackson-style rant.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:54:11am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:54:46am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:55:00am

re: #166 JordanRules

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Lovely comrade.

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:55:41am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah, I know it’s a play but sometimes plays are read. We read Miller’s Crucible in 11th grade. I’ll look for this version.

I haven’t seen the TV version in a long time, but I do remember that Hoffman and Malkovich were very good in it. But why shouldn’t they be, both are great actors chewing on a great play.

If you have two hours sometime, watch the video. I think you will find it entertaining and gripping.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:56:08am

Time for this English teacher to go to bed. Hoping the best for Alabama!

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:57:40am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:58:22am

re: #169 ObserverArt

I haven’t seen the TV version in a long time, but I do remember that Hoffman and Malkovich were very good in it. But why shouldn’t they be, both are great actors chewing on a great play.

If you have two hours sometime, watch the video. I think you will find it entertaining and gripping.

Yep I’ll catch it. Agree, both are fine actors.

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John Carter  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:58:46am

re: #73 teleskiguy

So if you listen to their words Skynard was saying that Watergate happened and it did not make everyone in the country a bad person because we elected him. Just like ALL Alabamans were not responsible for their racist governor.

In Birmingham they love the Gov’nor, boo-hoo-hoo
Now we all did what we could do

Now Watergate does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you, tell the truth

Basically, you can still love your country or state even if it elected a bad person. Also, that people in Alabama don’t like to be told what to do but there were still things about the state worth loving.

That’s how I see it anyway.

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:01:30am

You know, I was always taught to respect the office of the President.

How the heck can you respect Trump when he has no respect for the office, other politicians, this country, its Constitution and really himself?

Nope. No can do.

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plansbandc  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:03:12am

Friend said:

Sexual harassment pro-tip:
Don’t say anything to a woman you wouldn’t say to a man you were in prison with.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:03:46am

re: #173 John Carter

So if you listen to their words Skynard was saying that Watergate happened and it did not make everyone in the country a bad person because we elected him. Just like ALL Alabamans were not responsible for their racist governor.

In Birmingham they love the Gov’nor, boo-hoo-hoo
Now we all did what we could do

Now Watergate does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you, tell the truth

Basically, you can still love your country or state even if it elected a bad person. Also, that people in Alabama don’t like to be told what to do but there were still things about the state worth loving.

That’s how I see it anyway.

That makes sense given LZ were Jimmy Carter fans. They were friends with Neil Young anyhow.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:04:55am
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makeitstop  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:07:30am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

That makes sense given LZ were Jimmy Carter fans. They were friends with Neil Young anyhow.

Fun fact: Neil and Ronnie were planning on writing some songs together, but then Skynyrd’s plane crashed.

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John Carter  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:08:26am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have to look at the bigger picture: by expelling Moore, they could present the image of still having some shreds of moral decency, and in two years, their base will vote for for the Republican senate appointee nonetheless.

Perhaps but it would fuel Bannon’s rhetoric big time.

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Skip Intro  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:10:11am

re: #137 Belafon

The mayor of San Francisco died: sfgate.com

Damn. Sure didn’t see that coming.

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I cannot.  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:11:17am

re: #175 plansbandc

That’s…actually kind of a brilliant way of putting it.

That analogy is now stolen.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:15:05am

If it’s close today, which is very likely, this thread may be extra relevant.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:15:25am

re: #178 makeitstop

Fun fact: Neil and Ronnie were planning on writing some songs together, but then Skynyrd’s plane crashed.

Did not know that. Shame.

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dangerman  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:16:11am

re: #163 A Mom Anon

I’d never make it out of the primaries, lol. The first time someone lied about me or went after my family, they would not be able to share my responses on the TV without a LOT of bleeping out my “You fucking lying sacks of shit, fuck you, oh, and FUCK YOU.” And that would be the end of my political career.

these days, possibly not

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:17:38am

Fighting the same fights across the pond.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:19:51am
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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:20:43am
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:22:03am

While Trump acts the fool, serious business moves on, past us. I suggest the F-35 is popular for export despite the well known costs, etc etc because of the quality of Russian missiles. Missiles that can swat cold war designed aircraft right out of the sky at will.

Germany is a case in point. Until the advent of The Donald. thedrive.com

An official statement from the German Ministry of Defense says it is now leaning toward purchasing Eurofighter Typhoon multi-role fighter jets rather than F-35 Joint Strike Fighters as replacements…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:23:55am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:24:15am

re: #166 JordanRules

Sarah Kendzior

@sarahkendzior
Replying to @sarahkendzior
In addition to monitoring elections in Russia and deeming them “free and fair”, Alabama Secretary of State also went on RT in 2015 to discuss American elections pic.twitter.com

Sarah Kendzior

@sarahkendzior
Alabama was one of the 21 states confirmed as a target of Russian election hackers in 2016 google.com
8:12 AM - Dec 12, 2017]

So maybe the Russians are implementing a hostile takeover of the United States. They have a failed economy that cannot compete in the modern world so they are working assiduously at conquering the largest economy so that they can indeed be the rulers of it all.

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dangerman  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:25:19am

re: #186 JordanRules

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ianal and i’m pretty sure that’s not how special counsel works
you dont need one to do an investigation unless there’s a conflict for the doj

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:26:36am
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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:28:23am

I have seen a few signs before that say Drive Like Your Kids Live Here
Yard sign for today’s election: Vote Like Your Kids Live Here

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:29:18am

re: #190 Hecuba’s daughter

So maybe the Russians are implementing a hostile takeover of the United States. They have a failed economy that cannot compete in the modern world so they are working assiduously at conquering the largest economy so that they can indeed be the rulers of it all.

Just as long as the Trump clan get a piece.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:31:27am

re: #186 JordanRules

What could go wrong?

/

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:31:43am

Mitch is really a horrible person and Majority Leader.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:32:58am

re: #190 Hecuba’s daughter

Russia’s economy is on par with that of Italy.

That’s not saying a whole hell of a lot, is it? For a nation with vast natural resources, Russia is a kleptocratic, inefficient basket case. The only thing that allows them to punch above their weight is their nuclear arsenal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:33:08am

re: #179 John Carter

Perhaps but it would fuel Bannon’s rhetoric big time.

He has already declared war on the establishment GOP

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:34:40am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

Russia’s economy is on par with that of Italy.

That’s not saying a whole hell of a lot, is it? For a nation with vast natural resources, Russia is a kleptocratic, inefficient basket case. The only thing that allows to punch above their weight is their nuclear arsenal.

and lots of oil

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dangerman  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:35:18am

re: #196 JordanRules

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Mitch is really a horrible person and Majority Leader.

mitch is cruel and callous. a lousy example of a human being

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:35:22am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has already declared war on the establishment GOP

Either way, Bannon actually wins. If Moore wins, he’s vindicated. If Moore loses, Bannon will use that loss as a rallying point in his war on the GOP establishment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:36:51am

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

Either way, Bannon actually wins. If Moore wins, he’s vindicated. If Moore loses, Bannon will use that loss as a rallying point in his war on the GOP establishment.

He is an evil genius when it comes to creating personal win-win situations.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:37:27am

heh

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:39:40am

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

I saw bagels mentioned and thought I’d note that bagels are catching on here in Ostrava (thank heavens). For a long time, only one place served them - now, there’s at least four cafés in town featuring them on the menu.

That makes me a happy camper.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:40:27am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:41:05am

Long arm of the law:

Arrest in notorious 1980 slaying of Antioch teen Suzanne Bombardier

Antioch police announced Monday that they have arrested a suspect in the 1980 kidnapping and killing of a teenager whose story briefly jolted the nation and roiled a quiet East Bay suburb.
Mitchell Lynn Bacom, 63, of Antioch was arrested just before 5 p.m. Monday for allegedly kidnapping 14-year-old Suzanne Bombardier while she was babysitting her nieces on a summer night 37 years ago and killing her.
Police detained Bacom outside of his home on the 300 block of West Madill Street in Antioch. Bacom was an acquaintance of the Bombardier family at the time the crime was committed, police said, without disclosing further details.

This is the California Antioch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:41:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:42:12am

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another Marine here…I would have never followed orders to conduct martial law. Most of my brothers in arms wouldn’t have either. We would have been fighting the cowards who decided to follow those orders. And yes, this nation would fall into another Civil War.

what sort of hypothetical marital law are they talking about?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:43:10am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

If most people are convinced that you’re an alcoholic you shouldn’t do your final campaign interview in a bar with a bottle of Jack Daniels that you’re beaming at lustily.

I assume that he wants to demonstrate to his wavering followers that he can be trusted around young girls…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:43:22am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what sort of hypothetical marital law are they talking about?

responding to this:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:44:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:44:46am

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

responding to this:

should it come to that point, ti will be too late, just as it was too late in 1861

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:45:24am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

Russia’s economy is on par with that of Italy.

That’s not saying a whole hell of a lot, is it? For a nation with vast natural resources, Russia is a kleptocratic, inefficient basket case. The only thing that allows them to punch above their weight is their nuclear arsenal.

And that’s what we are becoming - a kleptocracy ruled by a kakistocracy. It was troubling to hear on Chris Hayes last night that Macron has funded top US climate scientists, who have now relocated to France. It’s good for the world that their work will continue but it’s bad for the United States for us to lose their technical expertise.

Although I do support the Trump initiative to build a base on the Moon and from there go to Mars, how are we going to accomplish that without funding? The tax legislation will guarantee we won’t have the financial resources. And how will we manage if our top scientists are likely to be recruited by countries who look to the future, instead of wanting a return to the 1950’s?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:45:49am
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makeitstop  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:46:00am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is an evil genius when it comes to creating personal win-win situations.

He’s really not a genius at anything but insinuating himself into situations of power.

Remember how everyone used to say Karl Rove was a genius? Until he started losing.

Bannon is Karl Rove II, with a crappier wardrobe.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:47:53am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:48:11am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what sort of hypothetical marital law are they talking about?

You mean martial law, don’t you? Marital law may not provide much help here..

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:50:05am

re: #217 Hecuba’s daughter

If the GOP had their way, there might be some overlap.
Lock your wives down for the night!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:50:15am

re: #215 makeitstop

He’s really not a genius at anything but insinuating himself into situations of power.

Remember how everyone used to say Karl Rove was a genius? Until he started losing.

Bannon is Karl Rove II, with a crappier wardrobe.

Rove is still an evil genius for the “forged” Air National Guard docs.

I read an article on Bannon, I did not know that he made his reputation and fortune as a TV producer by owning a piece of Seinfeld, which netted him tens of millions of dollars, whereupon he decided to launch a career in political journalism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:50:51am

re: #217 Hecuba’s daughter

You mean martial law, don’t you? Marital law may not provide much help here..

I meant Martian law

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:53:42am
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John Carter  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:53:48am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I meant Martian law

I think you misspelled Maritime Law.

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I cannot.  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:55:33am

re: #215 makeitstop

A crappy wardrobe, but one incredibly well-stocked with shirts.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:56:19am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump is never going to try to prove he’s not sexist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:57:12am
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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 12, 2017 • 7:57:26am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh hell, I didn’t know Jones’ senior guy was Joe Trippi..my heart just sank a bit…

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:00:11am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I meant Martian law

Cannot tell you how often at work that notes have “now” instead of “not” or vice versa, thereby conveying the opposite message of what was intended. We all do this — type quickly and press send. Technology can detect certain typos, but most escape discovery until after the message is sent out.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:00:19am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Thanks for coming to vote. Sorry, our machines are broke. Better luck next time. Have a nice day.”

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:00:22am

LOL!

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dangerman  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:00:25am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

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quelle suprise

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:01:49am

re: #226 bill d. (b.d.)

I learned that just this morning too and let out a big sigh.

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dangerman  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:01:57am

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

Cannot tell you how often at work that notes have “now” instead of “not” or vice versa, thereby conveying the opposite message of what was intended. We all do this — type quickly and press send. Technology can detect certain typos, but most escape discovery until after the message is sent out.

but not meaning or intent

hence the white house yesterday “yolk of authoritarianism”

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Teukka  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:03:22am

My female parental unit tipped me off about this NYT arkle which is making waves:

A Chinese county along the border with North Korea is constructing refugee camps intended to house thousands of migrants fleeing a possible crisis on the Korean Peninsula, according to an internal document that appears to have been leaked from China’s main state-owned telecommunications company.
Three villages in Changbai County and two cities in the northeastern border province of Jilin, have been designated for the camps, according to the document from China Mobile. The document appeared last week on Weibo, a microblogging site.
The camps are an unusual, albeit tacit, admission by China that instability in North Korea is increasingly likely, and that refugees could swarm across the Tumen River, a narrow ribbon of water that divides the two countries.
[…]
The areas designated for the refugee camps were on state-owned land, and temporary housing had already been constructed at several sites, according to a local businessman who requested anonymity for fear of angering the local government.
Three county villages were named in the document as locations for the camps. The cities of Tumen and Hunchun will also house refugees, according to the businessman.
Tumen and Hunchun have for 20 years received defectors, who have managed to escape from North Korea into China. Many of those defectors travel on to Southeast Asia and eventually to South Korea.
[…]
Last week, the Jilin Daily, a provincial newspaper, advised residents on how to react in case of a nuclear explosion or radioactive fallout.
The advice included washing off radioactive dust from exposed body parts and shoes, and taking iodine tablets. The article noted that when the United States dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan, in 1945, more than 70,000 people were killed. Modern weapons are many times more powerful.
[…]
“It is highly possible that there is a conflict between North Korea and the United States now,” said Zhang Liangui, a professor of international strategic research at the Communist Party’s Central Party School. “What China does here is to be prepared for any kind of situation happening on the Korean Peninsula.”
In another sign of increased tensions, South Korea said on Monday that it would join the United States and Japan for a drill to practice tracking missiles launched from North Korean submarines.

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makeitstop  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:04:10am

re: #223 I cannot.

A crappy wardrobe, but one incredibly well-stocked with shirts.

He buys them all in triplicate.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:04:26am

This is weird even for Bakker. It also shows just how far the evangelical grift industry has gone as an arm of RWNJ politics.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:04:50am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lightweight Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a total flunky for Chuck Schumer and someone who would come to my office “begging” for campaign contributions not so long ago (and would do anything for them), is now in the ring fighting against Trump. Very disloyal to Bill & Crooked-USED!

— Donald J. Trump

Trump talks about himself in the third person, or some flunky tweeted this? Very disloyal to Bill…who? Bill Clinton?

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William Lewis  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:05:17am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

should it come to that point, ti will be too late, just as it was too late in 1861

Arguably it is already too late and that we’re simply going through the motions of the Code Blue crash cart team to the corpse of the 1st Republic.

The real question is will there be a coup by those who want to establish a 2nd Republic now or if the coup will come from the right and create the kind of neo-feudal corporate based kingdom out of Cyberpunk SF? After which the question is how long the interregnum be? A generation? A century? Permanent?

At this point, these are just thoughts and hopefully all wrong. Today’s results and how they’re responded to by both sides will tell the real tale.

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William Lewis  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:07:08am

re: #213 Hecuba’s daughter

And that’s what we are becoming - a kleptocracy ruled by a kakistocracy. It was troubling to hear on Chris Hayes last night that Macron has funded top US climate scientists, who have now relocated to France. It’s good for the world that their work will continue but it’s bad for the United States for us to lose their technical expertise.

Although I do support the Trump initiative to build a base on the Moon and from there go to Mars, how are we going to accomplish that without funding? The tax legislation will guarantee we won’t have the financial resources. And how will we manage if our top scientists are likely to be recruited by countries who look to the future, instead of wanting a return to the 1950’s?

The only western Mars expedition that might happen will be by Elon Musk.

Really though, the moon base & martian colony will both be achieved by the PRC without any help from the west.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:10:06am
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Stanley Sea  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:10:29am
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makeitstop  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:10:37am

re: #236 Sir John Barron

Trump talks about himself in the third person, or some flunky tweeted this? Very disloyal to Bill…who? Bill Clinton?

His syntax is a hot mess. He goes first person in the beginning of the tweet, third person at the end.

And yeah, the ‘Bill’ thing is just weird.

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:12:11am

re: #173 John Carter

So if you listen to their words Skynard was saying that Watergate happened and it did not make everyone in the country a bad person because we elected him. Just like ALL Alabamans were not responsible for their racist governor.

In Birmingham they love the Gov’nor, boo-hoo-hoo
Now we all did what we could do

Now Watergate does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you, tell the truth

Basically, you can still love your country or state even if it elected a bad person. Also, that people in Alabama don’t like to be told what to do but there were still things about the state worth loving.

That’s how I see it anyway.

Fun fact: Birmingham was actually the least supportive part of the state for George Wallace. Which is why Interstate 65 went nearly to Birmingham, then resumed north of Birmingham.

Image: us-wallace-maps.png

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:12:12am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:12:26am

re: #236 Sir John Barron

Trump talks about himself in the third person, or some flunky tweeted this? Very disloyal to Bill…who? Bill Clinton?

Sounds like first hand Trump communication. Those typed by others are far more literate.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:12:31am

re: #31 Kragar

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Great catch, Kragar. I didn’t even think about the fact that Moore did nothing to stop or discourage someone else from exploiting child prostitutes. That says a lot about Moore.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:13:37am

re: #241 makeitstop

His syntax is a hot mess. He goes first person in the beginning of the tweet, third person at the end.

And yeah, the ‘Bill’ thing is just weird.

And “Bill” isn’t her husband. She’s married to Jonathan Gillibrand.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:14:36am

re: #246 Sir John Barron

And “Bill” isn’t her husband. She’s married to Jonathan Gillibrand.

He’s calling Hillary “Crooked” as her first name.

It infuriates me

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Sir John Barron  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:15:19am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

Censorship! Political Correctness! Good conservatives being banned!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:15:39am

re: #236 Sir John Barron

Trump talks about himself in the third person, or some flunky tweeted this? Very disloyal to Bill…who? Bill Clinton?

Oh, it’s the Clintons: “Very disloyal to Bill & Crooked…”

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:15:49am

Let’s go through this one more time.

We have a very unpopular president who was elected by a fluke of our electoral system, not by popular vote, but also do to some apathy by those who are a lot more awake now. We’re not really sitting at the edge of the 1860s or 1930s Germany.

As for the election today, who put money down on Alabama being close after Sessions was put in as AG? It is Alabama. They’re already prone to electing people who go after their daughters; Moore got elected as judge twice, once after being thrown out of office. If he wins, what is really different? Not the Senate, and not Alabama.

Almost every district here in Texas is getting a Democrat on the ballot. I don’t expect most of them to win, but that is a game changer, and, if it’s being repeated everywhere else in the country, is a huge game changer.

Please don’t get caught in the LGF bubble and talk yourselves into a political depression.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:17:37am

re: #247 Stanley Sea

He’s calling Hillary “Crooked” as her first name.

It infuriates me

Such classy much presidential.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:17:56am

meanwhile in Kentucky:

he’s having a presser at his church.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:18:58am
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sagehen  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:19:26am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Rove is still an evil genius for the “forged” Air National Guard docs.

I read an article on Bannon, I did not know that he made his reputation and fortune as a TV producer by owning a piece of Seinfeld, which netted him tens of millions of dollars, whereupon he decided to launch a career in political journalism.

That had nothing to do with “TV producing”, it was part of his banking work. While at Goldman, he helped finance/broker the sale of rerun-syndication rights, getting a share of the deal instead of cash payment.

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danarchy  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:21:46am

re: #236 Sir John Barron

Trump talks about himself in the third person, or some flunky tweeted this? Very disloyal to Bill…who? Bill Clinton?

He is talking about her comments last month about how Bill should have resigned the Presidency and how we would be having a very different conversation about his accusers today than we did then.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:22:28am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh so finally Charlottesville figured out that it’s okay to deny murderous Nazis march permits. **rolls eyes**

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:23:59am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:24:01am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is there a pizza fund? Or hot coffee?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:26:46am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in Kentucky:

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he’s having a presser at his church.

jeebus

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John Carter  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:27:00am

re: #242 BlueSpotinAL

Fun fact: Birmingham was actually the least supportive part of the state for George Wallace. Which is why Interstate 65 went nearly to Birmingham, then resumed north of Birmingham.

Image: us-wallace-maps.png

Interesting, so how does that affect my interpretation? Was that lyric sarcastic followed by “boo-hoo-hoo”?

In other words, they definitely didn’t “Love the governor”. That song is interesting and in the words of Inigo Montoya it may not mean what everyone thinks it means. Could be wishful thinking on my part.

It would not be the first time art and literature was misremembered or co-opted.

Lolita comes to mind. Lolita was not a temptress and was clearly a victim. Humbert was not corrupted by her and was a practically a self affirmed predator. But how does society remember that story? Who got painted as the villain in pop culture?

Same thing with Uncle Tom imo but I don’t want to make this post too long.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:27:45am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

While I applaud Senator Gillibrand’s commentary about Trump needing to resign because of the sexual harassment allegations raised against him, that will never happen. I wish she had been a bit more circumspect when dealing with Senator Franken.

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I cannot.  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:30:34am
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Interesting Times  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:35:32am

re: #261 Patricia Kayden

While I applaud Senator Gillibrand’s commentary about Trump needing to resign because of the sexual harassment allegations raised against him, that will never happen. I wish she had been a bit more circumspect when dealing with Senator Franken.

I’d felt the same way, though now I wonder if there was a method to the madness beyond a rigid adherence to “zero tolerance” (that is, she went after Franken first to bolster and add credibility to a subsequent push for Cheeto Benito’s resignation. Of course it will never work, but perhaps she thought it would shift the MSM narrative…)

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:37:06am

re: #263 Interesting Times

I’d felt the same way, though now I wonder if there was a method to the madness beyond a rigid adherence to “zero tolerance” (that is, she went after Franken first to bolster and add credibility to a subsequent push for Cheeto Benito’s resignation. Of course it will never work, but perhaps she thought it would shift the MSM narrative…)

I was flipping it around: Since she pushed Franken to resign, she HAD to go after Trump. Someone needs to go after Trump, repeatedly, so it might as well be her.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:40:13am

re: #235 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:41:32am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why is this not shocking in the least? Democracy in its Third World best.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:48:43am

Daily Kos summarizes Trump’s list of people exonerating him of sexual assault:

And on Tuesday, Sanders sent her list of eyewitnesses to Think Progress. It will surprise no one to learn that much like Trump, the list is a bad joke.

There’s Katie Blair, who disputes the claim of Samantha Holvey, who says that Trump “personally inspected each of the contestants” at the 2006 Miss USA pageant. Blair wasn’t in the 2006 Miss USA pageant.

Melissa Young is eyewitness number two against Samantha Holvey, with the White House describing her as “someone who ‘Also Competed In The 2005 Miss USA Pageant.’” Except Samantha Holvey didn’t compete in the 2005 Miss USA Pageant.

And eyewitness number three is Anthony Gilberthorpe, a confirmed liar, who “claimed to be an eyewitness disputing the account of Jessica Leeds, who says Trump groped her on an airplane in 1980.” Gilberthorpe said that he perfectly remembers watching Trump and Leeds on an airplane 37 years ago, that nothing happened AND that Leeds, “then in her 30s, confided in him (an 18-year-old stranger) that she wanted to marry Trump.”

And there you have it. The eyewitnesses who totally back up Donald Trump’s claims that he’s not a vile, disgusting pig and serial sexual assaulter.

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:50:38am

re: #260 John Carter

Interesting, so how does that affect my interpretation? Was that lyric sarcastic followed by “boo-hoo-hoo”?

In other words, they definitely didn’t “Love the governor”. That song is interesting and in the words of Inigo Montoya it may not mean what everyone thinks it means. Could be wishful thinking on my part.

It would not be the first time art and literature was misremembered or co-opted.

Lolita comes to mind. Lolita was not a temptress and was clearly a victim. Humbert was not corrupted by her and was a practically a self affirmed predator. But how does society remember that story? Who got painted as the villain in pop culture?

Same thing with Uncle Tom imo but I don’t want to make this post too long.

One member of Lynrd Skynyrd was interviewed about this, he made it clear that you are right overall, I was just pointing out that the particular line about Birmingham was ironic, and how Wallace treated the areas that did not vote for him. And I also think they claimed to say Boo-Boo-Boo, which is quite different from Boo-Hoo-Hoo!

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:52:26am

Ha!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:54:08am

re: #267 Belafon

Hey, they didn’t include Witness #4 who will back up Trump’s Version!

Yeah, that’s Right! Trump dint do none of that there stuff!
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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:55:19am
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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:56:22am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:56:41am

re: #265 Joe Bacon 🌹

“The Council of the Prophets”? LOLOL he probably got high and watched an episode of ‘Super Friends’.

The Council of the Prophets
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John Carter  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:57:59am

re: #268 BlueSpotinAL

One member of Lynrd Skynyrd was interviewed about this, he made it clear that you are right overall, I was just pointing out that the particular line about Birmingham was ironic, and how Wallace treated the areas that did not vote for him. And I also think they claimed to say Boo-Boo-Boo, which is quite different from Boo-Hoo-Hoo!

Thanks @BlueSpotinAL, I appreciate your take on it especially since you probably know a lot more about it than me.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 8:58:46am
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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:01:30am

re: #240 Stanley Sea

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That photo of The Orange Blimp with Melania and Ivanka is just plain weird. Trump looks like he is posing with two replicas of Melania and Ivanka. Both of their faces just look so porcelain and lifeless.

And that is supposed to be beautiful?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:01:45am
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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:02:39am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:03:12am

Today is erection, er, election day for Roy Moore. It could be the best day of his life since that frag failed to go off under his bed in ‘Nam, or the worst since an irate father chased him out of ‘Bama and forced him to hide out in Australia.

Alabama voters should be reminded that Roy was an MP company commander. He has admitted to discovering a child brothel that was catering to American servicemen. He had it within his power to raid the place, shut it down and rescue the victims. That the notoriously moralistic Bible thumper did not do so speaks volumes about this real values.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:04:20am

re: #266 Patricia Kayden

Why is this not shocking in the least? Democracy in its Third World best.

Sometimes I think we’d be better off using paper ballots and just put them in boxes.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:05:12am

re: #281 Big Beautiful Door

Sometimes I think we’d be better off using paper ballots and just put them in boxes.

That’s how it done in the Czech Republic. A bit old-fashioned, but it works. And there’s a paper trail.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:05:41am

re: #233 Teukka

My female parental unit tipped me off about this NYT arkle which is making waves:

Dozens of boats from North Korea have washed up on Japan’s shores, too. Some with dead bodies, some with ailing crew, and some ghost boats.

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:06:28am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in Kentucky:

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he’s having a presser at his church.

Oh, so racists and sexual predators are just seasonal. Like fashion I suppose. Something is in and then out.

“Hey honey…how do I look as a racist?”

“Not so good dear. Pedophilia looks much better on you. Take that racist off and I’ll return it at WalMart on Monday.”

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Stanley Sea  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:06:32am

So low energy!

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SteelPH  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:07:45am

Roy Moore likes his booze how he likes his women. Between the ages of 12 and 16.

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:08:22am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

Scully2018
@Scully2018
Line to vote at a polling station near Birmingham, Alabama at 6.45 this morning.#DougJonesForSenate #VoteDougJones#Alabama #RightSideOfHistory
8:17 AM - Dec 12, 2017

Good to see a line like that. America is taking action. I do so hope that is an indication of good results today.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:10:31am

re: #282 Dr Lizardo

That’s how it done in the Czech Republic. A bit old-fashioned, but it works. And there’s a paper trail.

And in California. We count them with scanners, of course.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:10:36am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:11:30am

re: #268 BlueSpotinAL

One member of Lynrd Skynyrd was interviewed about this, he made it clear that you are right overall, I was just pointing out that the particular line about Birmingham was ironic, and how Wallace treated the areas that did not vote for him. And I also think they claimed to say Boo-Boo-Boo, which is quite different from Boo-Hoo-Hoo!

Fun fact: Merry Clayton who sang the haunting background on “Gimme Shelter” is singing “boo boo boo”* on “Sweet Home Alabama.”
*She sings background, suddenly unsure though if she sings that particular part (edited to add).

I remember Neil saying something like ‘they play for keeps; I’m honored to be in a Lynyrd Skynyrd song.’

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:13:18am

re: #288 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

And in California. We count them with scanners, of course.

Same here. Like I said, it’s somewhat old-fashioned, but it works quite well. The biggest problem here seems to be, like in the US all too often, voter apathy.

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danarchy  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:15:26am

Don’t know if this has been posted here yet, I haven’t seen it. Looks like Lucian Wintrich got off on those breach of the peace charges from his “It’s ok to be white” talk. Bummer

courant.com

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:15:27am

re: #267 Belafon

Daily Kos summarizes Trump’s list of people exonerating him of sexual assault:

Sounds like the list is just another table full of blank paper stuffed into envelopes.

Trump tricks work on his base though. They will now be convinced all three of the ladies are Democrats out to take down their boy.

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:17:03am

re: #274 John Carter

Thanks @BlueSpotinAL, I appreciate your take on it especially since you probably know a lot more about it than me.

Actually, I am a transplant, who had the same misconceptions about it that you addressed eloquently, and was constantly irritated by the song. It is played a LOT in Alabama. I was all ready to argue with someone about the song lyrics recently, but decided to get some facts beforehand, and found out that I was wrong. Crazy, right?

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:17:10am

“San Francisco is just like Detroit” -Said nobody who has ever been to those cities.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:18:33am
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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:18:37am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:19:39am

re: #293 ObserverArt

Sounds like the list is just another table full of blank paper stuffed into envelopes.

Trump tricks work on his base though. They will now be convinced all three of the ladies are Democrats out to take down their boy.

The Dear Alabama thing on twitter is shot full of pro-Moore folks. Abortion is a defining issue. If you’re anti-choice, nothing else matters. “Moore may have had inappropriate relations with a teenager, but Doug Jones supports the murder of millions of babies.’

Also, who is this Scott Presler POS? Seems more like a bot than a person. He’s staying busy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:19:52am

re: #286 SteelPH

Roy Moore likes his booze like he likes his women. Between the ages of 12 and 16.

*WHACK!*

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:20:22am

re: #295 Ace-o-aces

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“San Francisco is just like Detroit” -Said nobody who has ever been to those cities.

What a pair of dopes.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:20:47am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Straight shooter.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:21:02am

re: #297 JordanRules

Depends on the place, but we had higher than usual turnout in 2016 here in Rockwall and it meant that more people voted for the Republican than had in 2012.

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:22:09am

re: #288 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

And in California. We count them with scanners, of course.

The machines used here in Columbus appear to count both digitally and on a paper roll. When you review your selections and hit “Vote” you can see the selections printed to the paper roll in a window at the bottom of the machine. I would imagine they can verify both counts against each other that way too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:22:59am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:24:37am

re: #297 JordanRules

In theory, high turnout should help Jones. We’ll see.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:26:12am
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:26:24am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:27:39am

re: #237 William Lewis

Arguably it is already too late and that we’re simply going through the motions of the Code Blue crash cart team to the corpse of the 1st Republic.

Not a coup. We are watching the frog of American Democracy being slowly boiled alive in a pot of ineffective, partisan, commercially tainted media reporting that is a mishmash of infotainment, non-news, fake news and external disinformation and propaganda. We are unable to even recognize what is real and what is outright manipulation, much less control or combat those forces.

The damage will be irreversible and those who try to work against it will simply not be taken seriously as we no longer know what what we are fighting against.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:28:25am

THREAD!

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Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:28:38am

When do the polls close in Alabama? 9 or 10 pm eastern?

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:29:05am

re: #307 Ace-o-aces

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Oh right. They still believe the signature was forged. Hahahahahahahaha.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:30:03am

Consider how much Republicans have had to spend to try to get Moore elected. Yeah, he has his issues, but it should be a safe Republican seat. His issues have made this a tossup, but it wouldn’t be if the GOP wasn’t messed up.

Now, think about the panic Republicans are having if their big donors say “nope” to giving them money. They don’t have the small donor base the Democrats do. This is why they’re willing to cut off their own noses for their donors.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:32:08am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The damage will be irreversible and those who try to work against it will simply not be taken seriously as we no longer know what what we are fighting against.

Speak for yourself.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:32:33am

re: #310 Dr. Matt

When do the polls close in Alabama? 9 or 10 pm eastern?

7:00 pm central

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:32:58am

re: #313 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Speak for yourself.

I wish I could be more optimistic but every time I try to follow the news, it gets even more and more surreal.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:34:02am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I wish I could be more optimistic but every time I try to follow the news, it gets even more and more surreal.

I know. A Democrat with a chance in Alabama? What world is this?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:34:42am

re: #307 Ace-o-aces

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The signature wasn’t fake. She did add an annotationz

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:35:27am

re: #316 Belafon

I know. A Democrat with a chance in Alabama? What world is this?

to me it is more the fact that a man like Moore has a chance of being elected anywhere, even Alabama

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:36:16am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I wish I could be more optimistic but every time I try to follow the news, it gets even more and more surreal.

We have a chance to win a senate race in Alabama and did you not see Election Day too? I’m not worried about winning back seats. I’m more concerned about long term implications of Trumpism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:36:18am

re: #317 HappyWarrior

The signature wasn’t fake. She did add an annotationz

INVALID. therefore all the other women who came forward are liars, too.

case closed

vote Roy!

/

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:38:25am

I’m cautiously optimistic tonight but optimistic going forward. People are pissed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:40:58am

Today is the day we get to find out how effective the Republican voter suppression techniques really are.

I wonder if Putin has his eye on this one.

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:42:09am

re: #312 Belafon

Consider how much Republicans have had to spend to try to get Moore elected. Yeah, he has his issues, but it should be a safe Republican seat. His issues have made this a tossup, but it wouldn’t be if the GOP wasn’t messed up.

Now, think about the panic Republicans are having if their big donors say “nope” to giving them money. They don’t have the small donor base the Democrats do. This is why they’re willing to cut off their own noses for their donors.

And it is costing them two ways; money and reputation.

No doubt about it, this is a costly election for the Republicans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:43:57am
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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:46:55am

re: #317 HappyWarrior

The signature wasn’t fake. She did add an annotationz

But that is how a wingnut thinks. If one tiny thing is wrong it is all wrong and must be dismissed.

Meanwhile Trump lies at every turn and that is fine and dandy…he’s just making a point and talks about things like they do.

You can’t defeat that dishonesty. You have to beat them at the voting booth and with facts that hopefully reach the people that can be reached so they too come to the voting booth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:47:32am
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makeitstop  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:49:07am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dayum. Gloves are off.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:50:22am

re: #246 Sir John Barron

And “Bill” isn’t her husband. She’s married to Jonathan Gillibrand.

Bill Clinton (perhaps?)

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:50:30am

re: #329 makeitstop

Dayum. Gloves are off.

They’re giving him hell. He’s going to go ballistic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:55:04am
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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:55:11am

re: #331 HappyWarrior

They’re giving him hell. He’s going to go ballistic.

Good. I want to see him really lose it and do it very publically. I think that will lead to his downfall. It has to be very evident he needs to go.

Maybe the women are thinking the same. They have the floor and the power. Do not let up.

What would be real cool is if GOP women like Collins and Murkowski join in as a way to pay the Orange Pig back for how they have been treated by both Trump and their party men…like McConnell and Ryan.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 9:55:59am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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dangerman  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:00:17am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

Prior to this morment, @presssec issued a warning to me. She said if I asked a question of Trump at the bill signing “I can’t promise you will be allowed into a pool spray again.” Sorry Sarah.. we won’t be intimidated.

i want to see much more of THIS!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:00:42am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Solid gold latrines!

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dangerman  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:02:37am

re: #331 HappyWarrior

They’re giving him hell. He’s going to go ballistic.

i want that instead of a pony

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:02:47am

re: #322 Eclectic Cyborg

Today is the day we get to find out how effective the Republican voter suppression techniques really are.

I wonder if Putin has his eye on this one.

If all else fails, they will claim voter fraud and all those registered (black) felons.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:02:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:05:53am
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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:06:43am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If all else fails, they will claim voter fraud and all those registered (black) felons.

So what.

There is so much national attention on this election, trying any stunts is going to look like they are messing with the results.

There has to be a time to draw the line and call that crap out. Trump and the GOP are making this time, the time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:07:52am
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:08:43am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not to mention Trump’s first wife.

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VegasGolfer  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:08:56am
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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:09:18am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s in the picture?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:09:58am

re: #345 Belafon

What’s in the picture?

Ballot marked for Doug Jones.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:10:05am

good grief…Dan Johnson can just STFU any time now…

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:10:23am

re: #345 Belafon

Rick Wilson tweeted a photo of a ballot marked for Doug Jones; he says it’s from an Alabama friend of his whom he describes as a “rock-solid Republican”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:11:50am

Kentucky vying to be the next Alabama…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:14:05am
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:14:43am

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

THREAD!

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I bet they aren’t treating mostly white voting districts this way. Desperate to suppress the black vote and get Moore elected.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:14:45am

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kentucky vying to be the next Alabama…

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:15:17am

re: #310 Dr. Matt

When do the polls close in Alabama? 9 or 10 pm eastern?

8:00 pm ET, I think.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:15:54am

re: #307 Ace-o-aces

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Not sure the signature was ever determined to be fake.

But let’s also forget that Moore wasn’t allowed in basically any venue with kids.

And if you’re a GOP voter in Alabama thinking along with this guy, that means you’re cool with an asshole in his mid-30’s dating 16-18 year olds because it’s not technically illegal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:20:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:21:41am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:22:09am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

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When his tweets are a big part of how he communicates, it’s certainly relevant and not a “distraction.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:22:31am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Shameful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:22:33am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:23:45am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Murkowski is focused on getting ANWR opened up for drilling, and to Hell with anything else.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:25:36am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:27:42am

Trump’s tweets aren’t a distraction. They’re how he communicates.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:31:40am
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Mike Lamb  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:31:54am

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just when you think someone like Murkowski would continue a sporadic trend of doing the right thing…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:32:50am

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Way to stand up for your colleague.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:35:08am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:35:39am

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Plausible deniability for the 20-teens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:35:51am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

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makeitstop  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:36:26am

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

Corker: “I don’t know that I want you to show it to me, I can’t respond if I don’t know anything about it.”

Goddamn it, when is one of you gonna stand the fuck up?

Cowards. Every last one of them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:39:55am

more shenanigans. The poll workers tried to deny her vote, but she persisted.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:39:58am

re: #369 makeitstop

Also from the Why I Would Last 5 Minutes in Politics Files….If I was in Sen. Gillibrand’s shoes, I’d walk right up to Corker and call him a chickenshit to his face. Preferably in front of cameras.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:40:14am

re: #369 makeitstop

Goddamn it, when is one of you gonna stand the fuck up?

Cowards. Every last one of them.

Putin must have Kompromat on ALL of them!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:40:14am

re: #369 makeitstop

Goddamn it, when is one of you gonna stand the fuck up?

Cowards. Every last one of them.

The R is for cowaRd.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:41:23am

re: #372 Joe Bacon 🌹

Putin must have Kompromat on ALL of them!

Actually I wouldn’t be surprised which is why so many back him when push comes to shove.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:41:26am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:41:40am

So, OT, but they were just showing Colossus: The Forbin Project here on TV. It’s an older film, from 1970, but honestly, it’s one of the most underrated films of all time. It’s a sci-fi masterpiece. A pleasant surprise on a Tuesday evening. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:42:59am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:43:24am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So much for that bs article on Alabama’s black voters.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:43:50am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s the party.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:44:11am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

My favorite was when his campaign said that he had millions of non-accusers.

I have billions of non-accusers. How the hell is that an argument?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:45:43am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:46:13am

re: #380 Patricia Kayden

I have billions of non-accusers. How the hell is that an argument?

It’s a stupid one. No one accused me of hitting the Archbishop of Canterbury either. Granted I’ve never been to Canterbury.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:46:51am

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

I Know Nothing

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:47:44am

Apparently Goober thinks that Mueller’s investigation will inevitably lead to the removal of Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:48:23am
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John Carter  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:48:35am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

I canvassed in Tampa for Hillary in the Latin districts and they said the same.

Let’s just see what we see…

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Lidane  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:49:42am

I’m not ashamed to admit this tweet made me laugh like a lunatic in the office:

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:51:37am

re: #376 Dr Lizardo

So, OT, but they were just showing Colossus: The Forbin Project here on TV. It’s an older film, from 1970, but honestly, it’s one of the most underrated films of all time. It’s a sci-fi masterpiece. A pleasant surprise on a Tuesday evening. :)

When I was in the Navy, I worked at a barracks at night, and the Disney channels showed that one night.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:52:32am
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Sir John Barron  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:52:58am

re: #384 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Rep. Louie Gohmert warns of an impending “coup” and “civil war” if Mueller and Rosenstein are not taken off the Russia probe
— Right Wing Watch

Oh, OK, when you put it like that. Of course.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:53:06am

re: #384 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Sounds like GOHMERT! is genuinely worried that Mueller’s probe is gonna take Trump down.

Good news.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:53:10am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:53:19am

re: #384 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Apparently Goober think that Mueller’s investigation will inevitably lead to the removal of Trump.

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Is Gohmert that big of a hack or does the Kremlin have him by the balls too?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:53:57am

re: #392 Stanley Sea

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No, DiFi he should resign. But thanks.

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SteelPH  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:54:01am

re: #393 HappyWarrior

Is Gohmert that big of a hack or does the Kremlin have him by the balls too?

Yes.

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mmmirele  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:54:25am

re: #310 Dr. Matt

When do the polls close in Alabama? 9 or 10 pm eastern?

7 pm according to my friend who was arguing with her boss yesterday about whether she could take time off during the day to vote. I told her to drive over after work, get in line and stay there.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:55:00am

re: #388 Belafon

When I was in the Navy, I worked at a barracks at night, and the Disney channels showed that one night.

I couldn’t help but wonder if, somewhere along the line, James Cameron saw Colossus and that idea later served as the inspiration for Skynet.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:55:13am

re: #393 HappyWarrior

Is Gohmert that big of a hack or does the Kremlin have him by the balls too?

Both can be true.

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danarchy  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:56:06am

re: #396 mmmirele

7 pm according to my friend who was arguing with her boss yesterday about whether she could take time off during the day to vote. I told her to drive over after work, get in line and stay there.

The countdown box on the TV says about 6 hours from now which would be 8pm eastern

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:56:11am

re: #392 Stanley Sea

For the good of the nation, he should delete his account administration.

Fixed it for you, Senator.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:56:18am

re: #398 Sir John Barron

Both can be true.

Although he is a hack, that much we know. Not sure the Kremlin would have much use for him. But you never know.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:56:38am
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Skip Intro  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:56:39am

re: #364 Mike Lamb

Just when you think someone like Murkowski would continue a sporadic trend of doing the right thing…

She’s a Republican. It’s not in her genetics.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 10:57:37am

re: #401 Sir John Barron

Although he is a hack, that much we know. Not sure the Kremlin would have much use for him. But you never know.

I guess it’s always good to have a clown like Gohmert.

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Kragar  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:00:21am
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mmmirele  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:00:29am

re: #399 danarchy

The countdown box on the TV says about 6 hours from now which would be 8pm eastern

That’s right. Alabama is Central Time.

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Lidane  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:01:29am

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another video:

I can’t remember the last time I rode a horse, but Moore looks awkward as hell in that video. He’s not balanced in the saddle and he’s yanking on the reins a lot.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:01:59am

re: #407 Lidane

Another video:

I can’t remember the last time I rode a horse, but Moore looks awkward as hell in that video. He’s not balanced in the saddle and he’s yanking on the reins a lot.

Is the horse female?

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Interesting Times  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:02:23am

re: #407 Lidane

I can’t remember the last time I rode a horse, but Moore looks awkward as hell in that video. He’s not balanced in the saddle and he’s yanking on the reins a lot.

Pity the horse doesn’t rear up and buck him the fuck off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:02:31am

re: #407 Lidane

Another video:

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I can’t remember the last time I rode a horse, but Moore looks awkward as hell in that video. He’s not balanced in the saddle and he’s yanking on the reins a lot.

The horse isn’t happy at all…look at her ears.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:02:34am

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

was he waving his gun, too?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:02:46am

re: #407 Lidane

Another video:

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I can’t remember the last time I rode a horse, but Moore looks awkward as hell in that video. He’s not balanced in the saddle and he’s yanking on the reins a lot.

It’s just another stupid Republican stunt to look more macho and I say that coming from a family of people involved with horses.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:03:05am

re: #408 Belafon

Is the horse female?

How old is the horse?

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Lidane  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:03:28am

re: #408 Belafon

Is the horse female?

I would hope so. The poor thing is named Sassy.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:03:33am

re: #410 Backwoods_Sleuth

The horse isn’t happy at all…look at her ears.

I wouldn’t be happy either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:04:56am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:05:46am

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I expect crass SF jokes from the people who wanted us to respect Andrew Breitbart.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:06:40am
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Lidane  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:07:52am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

This seems to be a trend:

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:08:32am

Republicans are trying to get the tax bill to Trump’s desk before Jones can take office in the event he wins today. Lets hope for difficult reconciliation problems delaying the bill.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:09:52am

re: #419 Lidane

This seems to be a trend:

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What does it say about Trump that Republicans don’t want to know what he is tweeting to millions? Absolutely pathetic.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:09:53am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ernst on Trump’s Gillibrand tweet: “I’m sorry I don’t follow his Twitter.”

rino

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:11:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:11:43am
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Mike Lamb  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:11:55am

re: #419 Lidane

This seems to be a trend:

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Yup…that’s clearly a strategy that they’ve settled on behind closed doors—“Deliberate Ignorance”. Cowards.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:11:55am

re: #421 Big Beautiful Door

What does it say about Trump that Republicans don’t want to know what he is tweeting to millions? Absolutely pathetic.

What does it say about them that they refuse to read or comment? I totally expect Ryan and McConnell to either completely ignore it or do their usual lame admonishing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:12:03am

re: #393 HappyWarrior

Is Gohmert that big of a hack or does the Kremlin have him by the balls too?

As I posted above, I believe Putin has Kompromat on EVERY Republican!

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:12:12am

Just thinking, the current state of the GOP reminds of this quote from ‘Baron Munchausen’s Narrative of his Marvelous Travels and Campaigns in Russia’;

“Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I’m delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:12:22am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:13:31am

re: #423 JordanRules

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Seems to me that they’re trying to under Perez get close to the voters.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:16:02am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

Two people with no power to shape legislation but a person that wants to be convinced otherwise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:16:18am
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:16:44am

re: #423 JordanRules

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I sure hope that all of that hard work results in a Jones victory.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:18:32am
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:19:40am

re: #434 JordanRules

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Their response will be “So? That’s kind of the point.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:19:54am
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Stanley Sea  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:22:07am

re: #423 JordanRules

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Excellent.

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Lidane  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:25:13am

re: #410 Backwoods_Sleuth

The horse isn’t happy at all…look at her ears.

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:25:21am

re: #405 Kragar

Kragar
@Kragar_LGF
“Look at that horse’s ass.”


1:59 PM - Dec 12, 2017
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I’d recommend it as: Look at the ass on that horse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:25:44am

I think grandma is kinda happy…

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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:26:42am

re: #438 Lidane

He sits a horse like a bag of potatoes.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:28:41am

re: #441 jaunte

He sits a horse like a bag of potatoes.

Real Cowboys don’t ride Arabs………
That’s a fucking pony.

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Kragar  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:29:18am

re: #442 Dave In Austin

He does like ‘em young.

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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:29:24am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:30:13am

re: #439 ObserverArt

I’d recommend it as: Look at the ass on that horse.

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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:30:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:30:49am
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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:31:06am

Everywhere you turn, it’s Russians.

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:31:08am

re: #425 Mike Lamb

Yup…that’s clearly a strategy that they’ve settled on behind closed doors—“Deliberate Ignorance”. Cowards.

The party of marionettes. Strings pulled by the Kochs and Mercers types.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:32:43am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh that’s why Clinton was impeached and investigated for a consentual affair.

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Kragar  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:32:44am
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SteelPH  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:32:53am

re: #448 jaunte

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Everywhere you turn, it’s Russians.

It would not surprise me at all if the entire party was compromised(or kompromised, if you will)

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:33:14am

re: #440 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think grandma is kinda happy…

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LOL that stove is gigantic by Czech standards. Most stoves here are easily only half that size.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:35:52am

Now here’s something you can take to the bank - if Moore loses, just you wait and see how long it’ll be before Trump is tweeting about VOTER FRAUD!! or some such BS.

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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:36:19am
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Kragar  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:36:58am
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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:40:59am
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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:42:46am
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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:44:24am

Acosta asked: “Mr. President, what did you mean when you said that Kirsten Gillibrand would do anything for a campaign contribution?”

Good question! The president turned his head with a glare and proceeded to exit. No answer.

Later on, Acosta told CNN colleague Wolf Blitzer about how desperately the White House wanted to sidestep that uncomfortable encounter. “In the moments before I asked the president the question in the Roosevelt Room as he was signing the National Defense Authorization bill, the White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, pulled me aside — this was prior to me asking that question of the president. And she warned me that if I asked the president a question at this pool spray, as we call them, that she could not promise that I would be allowed into a pool spray again,” said Acosta. “Wolf, this was a direct threat coming from the press secretary to me, warning me not to ask a question and, of course, I went ahead and asked the question anyway and the president did not respond. But Wolf, as you know, we don’t respond to threats, we’re not going to be intimidated.”

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:44:50am

re: #458 jaunte

Did she ever produce that eyewitness list?

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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:45:53am

re: #460 JordanRules

I believe Trump’s private eyes are in Hawaii searching for it.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:46:03am
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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:46:47am

re: #460 JordanRules

Did she ever produce that eyewitness list?

Yeah. I copied DK’s summary here: #267.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:47:02am

re: #457 jaunte

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Bullying bs.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:47:18am

re: #463 Belafon

Thanks!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:47:35am

re: #459 jaunte

this was a direct threat coming from the press secretary to me, warning me not to ask a question and, of course, I went ahead and asked the question anyway and the president did not respond. But Wolf, as you know, we don’t respond to threats, we’re not going to be intimidated.”

If that were truly the case, Trump might not be President

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:48:10am
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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:49:11am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:49:27am

re: #462 JordanRules

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“We don’t want to talk about Trump’s tweets” but we will stand idly by while our party attacks a woman who called out our fuhrer.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:50:25am

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

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Happy Hanukkah VB and all my Jewish friends here and elsewhere.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:50:30am

re: #466 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If that were truly the case, Trump might not be President

Some people don’t learn the lesson until after the test.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:50:33am

re: #451 Kragar

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Yep. He’s my Senator and I just let him know that. Ratfucker should then work on helping his constituents, not hurting them.

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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:51:54am

Economically anxious Roy Moore voters.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:53:52am

re: #473 jaunte

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Economically anxious Roy Moore voters.

But they’re not racist, look at what the parties were during the Civil War!//

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:54:06am

re: #471 Belafon

Some people don’t learn the lesson until after the test.

But at least they can learn.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:55:55am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:56:09am

Deb what do you know about this?

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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:57:10am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:58:16am

re: #478 jaunte

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This is exactly what why the VRA was needed but you knew that didn’t ya Justice Roberts?

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:58:28am

re: #477 The Vicious Babushka

Deb what do you know about this?

There was a mention above. The ACLU says they can still vote.

Someone needs to call the ACLU.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 11:58:42am

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

And a Hanukkah Sameakh to you, VB and indeed, to all.

This is why I usually say, “Happy Holidays”…..it’s non-sectarian. It’s applicable to Christians, Jews, and even those pagans out there who like to celebrate Yule.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:00:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:01:22pm

re: #481 Dr Lizardo

And a Hanukkah Sameakh to you, VB and indeed, to all.

This is why I usually say, “Happy Holidays”…..it’s non-sectarian. It’s applicable to Christians, Jews, and even those pagans out there who like to celebrate Yule.

Exactly. There are a lot of holidays this month. Reminds me though, any lizards got a good potato pancake recipe? I’d rather have them from scratch than processed.

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:01:27pm

re: #196 JordanRules

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Mitch is really a horrible person and Majority Leader.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:02:23pm

re: #484 MsJ

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He really is and Kaine likewise is a really good dude.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:05:19pm

re: #445 Barefoot Grin

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He’s a very poor rider, no clue at all about posture or balance.

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:07:23pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:08:25pm

re: #297 JordanRules

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That’s encouraging! I’m very optimistic about Jones’ chances even though it’s obviously an uphill fight in such a deeply red state.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:08:27pm

re: #484 MsJ

MsJoanne
@MsJoanne
Nice to know that @SenateMajLdr is all about killing children. Republicans are murderers, whether by taking your healthcare away or by taking your children’s healthcare away.

How could anyone ever vote for one of these monsters?
2:01 PM - Dec 12, 2017

Because much of the voting public is equally monstrous. Many don’t care if they lose benefits as long as the “other” will suffer.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:09:09pm

re: #486 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

He’s a very poor rider, no clue at all about posture or balance.

Moore gets on a horse what, once or twice a year…..if that much? Hell, it’s probably been years since he’s been horseback riding.

Obvious publicity stunt is (pathetically) obvious.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:10:58pm

re: #483 HappyWarrior

Exactly. There are a lot of holidays this month. Reminds me though, any lizards got a good potato pancake recipe? I’d rather have them from scratch than processed.

I 2nd this request! I love latkes and would love a good time tested recipe rec.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:11:23pm

re: #490 Dr Lizardo

Moore gets on a horse what, once or twice a year…..if that much? Hell, it’s probably been years since he’s been horseback riding.

Obvious publicity stunt is (pathetically) obvious.

It’s like how he is with guns. A pathetic attempt to make a little man look big to masculinity obsessed gop voters.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:12:35pm

re: #491 JordanRules

I 2nd this request! I love latkes and would love a good time tested recipe rec.

Yep the Jewish community and my grandma’s parents Carpatho Rusyn have a lot in common at the plate.

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retired cynic  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:12:52pm

re: #486 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

He’s a very poor rider, no clue at all about posture or balance.

Or how to handle the reins! Oww!

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:13:58pm

They are really trying it.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:15:02pm

As a comparison, in 2016, Democrats contested 89 of the state House seats.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:17:29pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:19:46pm

re: #483 HappyWarrior

Exactly. There are a lot of holidays this month. Reminds me though, any lizards got a good potato pancake recipe? I’d rather have them from scratch than processed.

Google returns this recipe which seems close to the ones my (Slovak side) family used to make.

Potato Pancakes - Zemiakove placky
2 pounds/1 kg whole potatoes.
1 egg.
4-5 cloves of garlic.
1/2 tsp pepper.
1 tsp majoram - optional.
1 cup/240 ml milk.
6 tbs flour.
3/4 tsp salt.
Boil the potatoes in a large pot of salted water until you can just pierce them with a fork. Drain and let them cool for a minute or two.
Peel the potatoes and grate them on a fine grater.
Add egg, smashed garlic, pepper, salt, majoran, milk and the flour. Batter should be a thick liquid.
Preheat a crepe pan or a nonstick pan to medium low heat. Grease it and add about a ladle’s worth of batter. Fry 4 minutes on each side.
Enjoy.

Link to recipe: Slovak Style Potato Pancakes

Tip. I have always been told you want ‘old’ potatoes. Ones that are slightly getting soft. Hard new potatoes do not work so well.

I don’t make them, just going on what I remember from and uncle that was excellent at it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:20:32pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:21:00pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:22:15pm

re: #376 Dr Lizardo

So, OT, but they were just showing Colossus: The Forbin Project here on TV. It’s an older film, from 1970, but honestly, it’s one of the most underrated films of all time. It’s a sci-fi masterpiece. A pleasant surprise on a Tuesday evening. :)

I work with a company named “Guardian” so I always think of the Russian computer when they’re mentioned.

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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:24:02pm
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ipsos  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:25:44pm

re: #500 Dave In Austin

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Up to 87% “other” the last time I looked at it.

I’d love to get Heller’s seat back. Who’s the likely Democratic opponent in NV? Dina Titus?

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allegro  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:27:35pm

re: #486 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

He’s a very poor rider, no clue at all about posture or balance.

Or communication with his horse. She has no idea what he wants from her, all mixed signals.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:28:04pm

re: #503 ipsos

Up to 87% “other” the last time I looked at it.

I’d love to get Heller’s seat back. Who’s the likely Democratic opponent in NV? Dina Titus?

I’m actually in Nevada and I don’t have a clue who the hell is planning on running against him!

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:28:12pm
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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:28:55pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:28:59pm

re: #492 HappyWarrior

It’s like how he is with guns. A pathetic attempt to make a little man look big to masculinity obsessed gop voters.

And he pulls out a little Derringer, LOL.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:29:46pm

re: #376 Dr Lizardo

So, OT, but they were just showing Colossus: The Forbin Project here on TV. It’s an older film, from 1970, but honestly, it’s one of the most underrated films of all time. It’s a sci-fi masterpiece. A pleasant surprise on a Tuesday evening. :)

I remember reading that in the 7th or 8th grade, I found it terrific.

And they put up all the original Star Trek episodes, a lot of them were on the theme of not letting computers determine how we shape our lives or how we view the world.

Now just look at any random group of people in a public place…

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:30:29pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:32:13pm

re: #509 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember reading that in the 7th or 8th grade, I found it terrific.

And they put up all the original Star Trek episodes, a lot of the episodes were on the theme of not letting computers determine how we shape our lives or how we view the world.

Now just look at any random group of people in a public place…

It’s the first part of a trilogy. Colossus, The Fall of Colossus, and Colossus and the Crab.

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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:33:03pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:33:26pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:35:01pm

re: #509 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On a similar note, Charlie Chaplin put it this way:

Greed has poisoned men’s souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical. Our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery we need humanity. More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost….

The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men - cries out for universal brotherhood - for the unity of us all. Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world - millions of despairing men, women, and little children - victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people.

To those who can hear me, I say - do not despair. The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed - the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.

From The Great Dictator.

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:35:59pm

re: #287 ObserverArt

Good to see a line like that. America is taking action. I do so hope that is an indication of good results today.

Me too, espeically since we’re likely going to need an extra couple thousand votes to overcome republican vote rigging.

If we’re lucky.

Another reason I am not so up on “let’s get rid of Franken and we can just elect another democrat” because our elections are fucked up.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:36:07pm

re: #498 ObserverArt

Google returns this recipe which seems close to the ones my (Slovak side) family used to make.

Link to recipe: Slovak Style Potato Pancakes

Tip. I have always been told you want ‘old’ potatoes. Ones that are slightly getting soft. Hard new potatoes do not work so well.

I don’t make them, just going on what I remember from and uncle that was excellent at it.

Dobre, thanks.

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Teukka  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:36:52pm

re: #514 Dr Lizardo

On a similar note, Charlie Chaplin put it this way:

From The Great Dictator.

[Best Version] The Great Dictator Speech - Charlie Chaplin + Time - Hans Zimmer (INCEPTION Theme)

I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be an emperor. That’s not my business. I don’t want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone, if possible, Jew, gentile, black man, white. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each other’s happiness — not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another.
In this world there is room for everyone. And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way. Greed has poisoned men’s souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical. Our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery we need humanity. More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost.
The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men, cries out for universal brotherhood, for the unity of us all. Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world — millions of despairing men, women and little children — victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people. To those who can hear me, I say — do not despair. The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed — the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people and so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
Soldiers! Don’t give yourselves to brutes — men who despise you — enslave you — who regiment your lives — tell you what to do — what to think or what to feel! Who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder. Don’t give yourselves to these unnatural men — machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts. You don’t hate! Only the unloved hate — the unloved and the unnatural!
Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty! In the 17th Chapter of St. Luke it is written: “the Kingdom of God is within man” — not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people have the power — the power to create machines. The power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure.
Then, in the name of democracy, let us use that power! Let us all unite! Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men a chance to work, that will give youth the future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power, but they lie! They do not fulfill their promise; they never will. Dictators free themselves, but they enslave the people! Now, let us fight to fulfill that promise! Let us fight to free the world, to do away with national barriers, to do away with greed, with hate and intolerance. Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness.
Soldiers! In the name of democracy, let us all unite!

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:39:04pm
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jaunte  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:39:13pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:40:28pm

re: #517 Teukka

If a POTUS candidate said that nowadays, good lord, Fox News and the RWNJ’s would be apoplectic. They’d go into a full-on, absolute meltdown, LOL.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:40:34pm

re: #517 Teukka

[Embedded content]

I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be an emperor. That’s not my business. I don’t want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone, if possible, Jew, gentile, black man, white. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each other’s happiness — not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another.
In this world there is room for everyone. And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way. Greed has poisoned men’s souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical. Our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery we need humanity. More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost.
The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men, cries out for universal brotherhood, for the unity of us all. Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world — millions of despairing men, women and little children — victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people. To those who can hear me, I say — do not despair. The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed — the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people and so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
Soldiers! Don’t give yourselves to brutes — men who despise you — enslave you — who regiment your lives — tell you what to do — what to think or what to feel! Who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder. Don’t give yourselves to these unnatural men — machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts. You don’t hate! Only the unloved hate — the unloved and the unnatural!
Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty! In the 17th Chapter of St. Luke it is written: “the Kingdom of God is within man” — not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people have the power — the power to create machines. The power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure.
Then, in the name of democracy, let us use that power! Let us all unite! Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men a chance to work, that will give youth the future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power, but they lie! They do not fulfill their promise; they never will. Dictators free themselves, but they enslave the people! Now, let us fight to fulfill that promise! Let us fight to free the world, to do away with national barriers, to do away with greed, with hate and intolerance. Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness.
Soldiers! In the name of democracy, let us all unite!

Damn that’s good.

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Teukka  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:41:30pm

re: #514 Dr Lizardo

On a similar note, Charlie Chaplin put it this way:

From The Great Dictator.

re: #521 HappyWarrior

Damn that’s good.

77 years on, ol’ Chas’ speech is still bullseye.

*tips hat to Charles, wherever he is*

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:42:57pm
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Teukka  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:43:12pm

re: #520 Dr Lizardo

If a POTUS candidate said that nowadays, good lord, Fox News and the RWNJ’s would be apoplectic. They’d go into a full-on, absolute meltdown, LOL.

Certain scenes from the “Scanners” movies come to mind…

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:45:30pm

re: #496 Belafon

As a comparison, in 2016, Democrats contested 89 of the state House seats.

It’s about bleeding time that Democrats realized that you cannot win if you don’t run candidates.

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Belafon  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:46:53pm

re: #525 Patricia Kayden

It’s about bleeding time that Democrats realized that you cannot win if you don’t run candidates.

I’m happy so many people are stepping up. This will also help defeat Cruz, because Democrats have multiple reasons to go to the polls.

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:48:24pm

re: #348 Dr Lizardo

Rick Wilson tweeted a photo of a ballot marked for Doug Jones; he says it’s from an Alabama friend of his whom he describes as a “rock-solid Republican”.

Why were there two ballots there?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:48:38pm

Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:53:01pm

And you know how Charlie Chaplin was treated by the U.S. Government in his later years.

He was part of the Un-American Activities Committee blacklist.

So for those that think this era of politics is messed up, just remember nothing is new under the sun.

This is from his Wiki Page under the sub heading of on of his last movies “Limelight.”

Chaplin decided to hold the world premiere of Limelight in London, since it was the setting of the film.[281] As he left Los Angeles, he expressed a premonition that he would not be returning.[282] At New York, he boarded the RMS Queen Elizabeth with his family on 18 September 1952.[283] The next day, attorney general James P. McGranery revoked Chaplin’s re-entry permit and stated that he would have to submit to an interview concerning his political views and moral behaviour in order to re-enter the US.[283] Although McGranery told the press that he had “a pretty good case against Chaplin”, Maland has concluded, on the basis of the FBI files that were released in the 1980s, that the US government had no real evidence to prevent Chaplin’s re-entry. It is likely that he would have gained entry if he had applied for it.[284] However, when Chaplin received a cablegram informing him of the news, he privately decided to cut his ties with the United States:

Whether I re-entered that unhappy country or not was of little consequence to me. I would like to have told them that the sooner I was rid of that hate-beleaguered atmosphere the better, that I was fed up of America’s insults and moral pomposity…[285]

Because all of his property remained in America, Chaplin refrained from saying anything negative about the incident to the press.[286] The scandal attracted vast attention,[287] but Chaplin and his film were warmly received in Europe.[283] In America, the hostility towards him continued, and, although it received some positive reviews, Limelight was subjected to a wide-scale boycott.[288] Reflecting on this, Maland writes that Chaplin’s fall, from an “unprecedented” level of popularity, “may be the most dramatic in the history of stardom in America”.[289]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 12:55:34pm

re: #527 MsJ

Why were there two ballots there?

because that’s how they do it in Alabama. Two ballots, two separate scanners.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 12, 2017 • 1:21:57pm

re: #486 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

He’s a very poor rider, no clue at all about posture or balance.

And all those quarters he spent on the mini-carousel at the mall….


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