Trump Starts the Week With a Torrent of Fear-Mongering and Gaslighting

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The malevolent toad squatting in the White House awoke bright and early today and uncorked the following series of garbled, dishonest and racist tweets; even for him this is quite a torrent of idiocy and bad craziness.

I won’t even bother pointing out the numerous lies in this appalling, embarrassing stream of unconsciousness, because why bother? By now, everyone knows Trump is living in his own universe, and most of the conservative movement is there with him.

Ohhhkay, then. Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the United States.

And then, there’s this.

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353 comments
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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 11:59:55am

It’s what he does best.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 2, 2018 • 11:59:56am

Gaslighting? More like filling the media with gas and then tossing a match…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:10:32pm

Because kids interested in Easter Eggs and candy totally want to hear how awesome our military is…

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:11:18pm
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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:14:01pm

Trump is the most obvious actor in the current idiocracy.

But he is not alone.

Often we complain about Fox News, but they are not even the majority of the problem, in regards to fear-mongering and gaslighting.

Do any of you ever hear the USA Radio Network news? It’s often the “news” that is played on AM radio stations, or even some of the bigger podcast-collector streams. It’s often a whitewashing of the truth. For those who don’t know, that “news” service is owned by the despicable Patrick Brown: en.wikipedia.org.)

Example - this noon that “news” is running a story about Trump’s approval rising to 50%. (It’s a Rasmussen poll.) Same “news” also runs a story about the stock market tanking today, blaming it on China putting tariffs on various American goods, without at all mentioning that China is only doing this in reaction to Trump putting on tariffs first. Same “news” also runs a short audio outtake of Trump blaming Demoncrats for DACA not being pushed forward, completely without context.

This is what America hears when they listen to radio or streams.

The blow-up last week over Sinclair’s dictate to local news folk regarding calling other news outlets fake is just the latest in a very long list of Sinclair badness.

Trump is the result, not the cause, of this state of America.

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Kragar  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:15:31pm

Hats off to the cameraman who kept the Easter Rabbit in frame during that whole nonsensical rant

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:20:58pm
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piratedan  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:23:45pm

well if those ICE agents weren’t so busy deporting people that have been living, working and serving in our military, maybe they could find a way to “shut down” these caravans of border illegals from entering the country…

what I need is for the elections in 2018 to happen and then the trials to begin on these traitors. Then we can put quid pro quo to Vlad and his minions as well.

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:24:30pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

The fuck is a “competitive tax structure”?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:25:15pm

re: #9 KGxvi

The fuck is a “competitive tax structure”?

Low taxes to bring in business, while destroying safety nets.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:26:57pm

Another example of why I don’t believe in the Uncanny Valley. Some people just look off.
yahoo.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:27:36pm

re: #9 KGxvi

The fuck is a “competitive tax structure”?

raising the sales tax and add sales tax to services (which were previously exempt), among other Koch-inspired consumer nightmares.

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:28:18pm

re: #10 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Low taxes to bring in business, while destroying safety nets.

Do they not realize that they aren’t going to bring in businesses from bigger states? California supposedly has a terrible tax structure, yet we’re the 6th largest economy in the world. They can’t compete with us. Or with New York. Or even with Texas and Florida. Mostly because those are places that have cities where people want to live.

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Chrysicat  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:31:44pm

Is he saying “Mexico should shoot to kill at their Northern [sic—he means Southern] border’? And if so, why doesn’t the snake order it here?

Or is he fully aware that might get blue helmets patrolling the border?

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:35:49pm

re: #13 KGxvi

Kentucky isn’t going to attract businesses unless they have an educated workforce.

Amazon might build a distribution center, which is manual labor intensive (and requires a handful of educated managers to oversee the team there), but you’re not going to get Amazon to build HQ2 there no matter how much money you throw at them if they can’t get enough qualified technologists.

Screw the schools and you screw your economy.

Just ask Oklahoma and every other state that cuts their education budgets while claiming teachers are overpaid pansies (oh, and while you’re underpaid, here’s a gun because you need to now function as SWAT too).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:36:36pm

Lou Dobbs Complains About ‘Ethnic Holidays’ Like St. Patrick’s Day (VIDEO) (HuffPo)

Dude is an old-school bigot.

“And by the way, I’ve got to wish to you, each and every one, Happy Saint Patrick’s Day! I do that, and I have to be honest with you, despite my fervent anti-ethnic holiday position. That’s right! I’m against St. Patrick’s Day. I’m against St. Columbus Day. Saint Joseph’s Day. I’m against all of those things. Is there, by the way, is there a Jewish, a Jewish ethnic holiday? Is there one? No? Okay. The Jews have disappointed me. I mean, is there a St. Mauritius? No? A Belize? I don’t know. We gotta have — there’s gotta be something else going on here! How about an Asian ethnic holiday? Is there one? You know, a Saint Jin Tao Wow? Chinese New Year? All right, we can do that … I mean, what is with all of these ethnic holidays? I mean how about an American Day? How about were all the same kind of day?”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:37:56pm

re: #15 lawhawk

Kentucky isn’t going to attract businesses unless they have an educated workforce.

Amazon might build a distribution center, which is manual labor intensive (and requires a handful of educated managers to oversee the team there)

And those uneducated people will have to work for less than stock-picking robots cost, or be replaced. It’s a bad time to have no skills.

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:38:26pm

re: #16 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Lou Dobbs Complains About ‘Ethnic Holidays’ Like St. Patrick’s Day (VIDEO) (HuffPo)

Dude is an old-school bigot.

Hey, Lou, the Irish were declared white when German/English weren’t enough for a white majority.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:38:42pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I thought that the Ark Encounter was going to bring in a ton of tax dollars so we wouldn’t have to worry about this?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:41:10pm

re: #18 Belafon

Hey, Lou, the Irish were declared white when German/English weren’t enough for a white majority.

So if we bring Mexicans into the white-tent, can we get racist white people to stop freaking out about becoming a minority?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:42:23pm

re: #16 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Lou Dobbs Complains About ‘Ethnic Holidays’ Like St. Patrick’s Day (VIDEO) (HuffPo)

Dude is an old-school bigot.

I mean, what is with all of these ethnic holidays? I mean how about an American Day? How about were all the same kind of day?”

Don’t we already call that 4th of July/Independence Day?

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:43:07pm

re: #17 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

And those uneducated people will have to work for less than stock-picking robots cost, or be replaced. It’s a bad time to have no skills.

That’s true, too. An issue is that the model used to attract Amazon to build a distribution center in Lexington and Toyota a plant in Georgetown was to grant massive tax incentives. They want moderately-well educated workers, but more important that they be young and have some dexterity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:43:55pm
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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:43:55pm

re: #20 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

So if we bring Mexicans into the white-tent, can we get racist white people to stop freaking out about becoming a minority?

There was some talk about that a few years ago, where the GOP tried to extend whiteness to include Mexicans. Bush’s overtures were part of that. The problem is, Latinos refused to give up their culture - language, heritage, religion, etc. - to become white.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:44:24pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe no one wants to work there?

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:45:36pm

re: #20 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I don’t understand what the heck you are hinting at in the previous thread. Care to explain?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:47:23pm

re: #26 ObserverArt

I don’t understand what the heck you are hinting at in the previous thread. Care to explain?

He said you were the same ethnicity as his mom, so I put 2 and 2 together and figured out who you are.
/

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:47:24pm

Note also that Sinclair is buying (in the process of buying, it appears to be complicated) Tribune’s TV empire, meaning there will be an increased need for Sinclair to hire local folk to repeat their propaganda.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:47:50pm
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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:50:34pm

Meanwhile, in Indianastan:

2 Indianapolis TV stations could soon be owned by controversial Sinclair Broadcast

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:50:58pm

re: #24 Belafon

There was some talk about that a few years ago, where the GOP tried to extend whiteness to include Mexicans. Bush’s overtures were part of that. The problem is, Latinos refused to give up their culture - language, heritage, religion, etc. - to become white.

Lots of white people haven’t fully assimilated to bland white culture. They shouldn’t let that stop them.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:51:47pm

re: #28 freetoken

Note also that Sinclair is buying (in the process of buying, it appears to be complicated) Tribune’s TV empire, meaning there will be an increased need for Sinclair to hire local folk to repeat their propaganda.

The Democrats are going to have to break up Sinclair when this mad swing to the right is over.

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:52:33pm

re: #27 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He said you were the same ethnicity as his mom, so I put 2 and 2 together and figured out who you are.
/

I was just messing with Happy and Wrench with the point that many Americans wouldn’t know the differences of Slovene and Slovak if they know anything at all about either. You know “Slo” something or another.

I am German Slovak. So back to the mystery I guess.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:53:10pm

re: #32 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The Democrats are going to have to break up Sinclair when this mad swing to the right is over.

What we need to do is go back to limiting TV and radio station ownership.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:54:42pm

re: #34 freetoken

What we need to do is go back to limiting TV and radio station ownership.

It’s a hard sell in the age of the Internet, and does nothing to stop people from intentionally cutting themselves off from reality like the wingnuts do.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:55:01pm

OT:

I know some of you were watching JCS last night.

Comparing and contrasting two great performances - Carl Anderson in the movie:

Jesus Christ Superstar - Superstar

Brandon Victor Dixon in the NBC live tv performance:

“Superstar”: Brandon Victor Dixon - Jesus Christ Superstar Live in Concert

If JCS comes back to Broadway, Dixon has dibs on headlining as Judas. He rocked the part (and that’s arguably the more important role in telling the story than even John Legend’s Jesus).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:55:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:56:02pm

re: #36 lawhawk

OT:

I know some of you were watching JCS last night.

Comparing and contrasting two great performances - Carl Anderson in the movie:

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If JCS comes back to Broadway, Dixon has dibs on headlining as Judas. He rocked the part (and that’s arguably the more important role in telling the story than even John Legend’s Jesus).

Dixon was the best part last night.

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:56:10pm

re: #30 freetoken

Meanwhile, in Indianastan:

2 Indianapolis TV stations could soon be owned by controversial Sinclair Broadcast

Anyone for a game of Monopoly?

Sinclair runs both ABC Channel 6 and Fox 28 here in Columbus. I do not watch either. They share the same news staffs and they push Fox News.

What a mess having them control so much.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:56:58pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:57:09pm

Yep, Fox is definitely driving our national agenda on immigration. Thread:

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Sir John Barron  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:58:10pm

re: #16 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Lou Dobbs Complains About ‘Ethnic Holidays’ Like St. Patrick’s Day (VIDEO) (HuffPo)

Dude is an old-school bigot.

Delicate snowflake

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:58:33pm

Whoops. Roger Stone isn’t doing himself any favors. The crapweasel who lies about everything and claims that Nunberg’s a ‘lying psycho a-hole” and “cocaine addict” for claiming that Stone had met with Wikileaks’ Julian Assange?

Yeah, about that claim. WSJ is reporting that they got emails from Stone to Nunberg asserting that Stone met with Assange.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:58:43pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, but a black guy can kill you with a cell phone from 20 feet away. I guess.
/

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Sir John Barron  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:58:47pm

re: #41 Barefoot Grin

Yep, Fox is definitely driving our national agenda on immigration. Thread:

Puppet not a puppet you’re the puppet

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 12:59:17pm

re: #40 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Replying to that made my browser freak out, resizing the picture over and over. (Chrome version 65.0.3325.181 (Official Build) (64-bit)

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Sir John Barron  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:00:55pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

Easy. They didn’t fear for their lives with the Lville guy.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:04:05pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:04:22pm

re: #47 Sir John Barron

Easy. They didn’t fear for their lives with the Lville guy.

/

Here’s a white guy shot and killed by Louisville police.
courier-journal.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:04:58pm

Recovered a tad in the final 30 minutes of trading

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JordanRules  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:05:24pm
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Sir John Barron  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:06:19pm

re: #51 JordanRules

“Oh, that email…”

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:10:04pm

re: #31 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Lots of white people haven’t fully assimilated to bland white culture. They shouldn’t let that stop them.

After reading what I wrote, I think I made it sound like I was blaming Latinos. I’m not. Conservatives would only accept them if they became “white”, which is really a lie because they would never be white enough (skin color kind of gives it away). Latinos refused to play the game, rightfully choosing not to give up what is theirs. But there’s no way conservative whites were going to accept them for who they are.

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JordanRules  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:15:20pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:16:59pm

re: #11 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Another example of why I don’t believe in the Uncanny Valley. Some people just look off.
yahoo.com

It’s the colored contact lenses.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:17:34pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gee Keith way to make me feel old.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:19:04pm

re: #53 Belafon

After reading what I wrote, I think I made it sound like I was blaming Latinos. I’m not. Conservatives would only accept them if they became “white”, which is really a lie because they would never be white enough (skin color kind of gives it away). Latinos refused to play the game, rightfully choosing not to give up what is theirs. But there’s no way conservative whites were going to accept them for who they are.

They hate Latinos because Latinos actually live by family values as opposed to what white Anglo conservative Evangelicals do which is talk about it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:19:22pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

It’s the colored contact lenses.

That plus a lot of makeup, so the eyes and skin translucency both look off.
Did she put colored contacts on her kid too?

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:19:27pm

Soooo, my AL state representative gets arrested by the FBI:

hooversun.com

justice.gov

I thought he would be above all that. Life is full of disappointments.

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Kragar  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:20:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:20:34pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

I was just messing with Happy and Wrench with the point that many Americans wouldn’t know the differences of Slovene and Slovak if they know anything at all about either. You know “Slo” something or another.

I am German Slovak. So back to the mystery I guess.

Yeah I forgot you were German. Lotta Slovenes in Cleveland as ya know. Speaking of Slovakia, headed to Bratislava this summer and to my great grandfather’s home village.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:24:06pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Glad he didn’t have a phone in his hand or it could have gotten deadly.

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Weaselone  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:28:17pm

re: #54 JordanRules

I’m not as worried about this as I would have been 10 years ago. If domestic manufacturers go along with this, they’ll just be consigning themselves and their cars to the scrap heap.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:30:05pm

re: #41 Barefoot Grin

It’s the white nationalist network. They aren’t hiding the agenda. They’re full bore nativists and bigots.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:30:29pm

re: #63 Weaselone

I’m not as worried about this as I would have been 10 years ago. If domestic manufacturers go along with this, they’ll just be consigning themselves and their cars to the scrap heap.

California may keep them honest.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:30:39pm
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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:31:33pm

Getting back to the topic of how science, in particular genetics/genomics, is a nexus of conflict in the ideological war of us-vs-them:

A recent preprint about a new technique to determine archaic admixture, without having access to preserved ancient skeletons, shows how the noxious are drawn to these sort of things.

First, the research:

Recovering signals of ghost archaic admixture in the genomes of present-day Africans

Analyses of Neanderthal and Denisovan genomes have characterized multiple interbreeding events between archaic and modern human populations. While several studies have suggested the presence of deeply diverged lineages in present-day African populations, we lack methods to precisely characterize these introgression events without access to reference archaic genomes. We present a novel reference-free method that combines diverse population genetic summary statistics to identify segments of archaic ancestry in present-day individuals. Using this method, we find that ~7.97±0.6% of the genetic ancestry from the West African Yoruba population traces its origin to an unidentified, archaic population (FDR ≤20%). We find several loci that harbor archaic ancestry at elevated frequencies and that the archaic ancestry in the Yoruba is reduced near selectively constrained regions of the genome suggesting that archaic admixture has had a systematic impact on the fitness of modern human populations both within and outside of Africa.

The full PDF of the preprint is here.

It’s a fascinating aspect of human evolution that has only come to light in the era of genomics and affordable methods of doing full genome sequencing.

As not unexpected, there are plenty of those who want to misuse these kind of discoveries to push their own bigotry. On that link to the bioRXiv there is a section showing tweets that reference the post, and sure enough we find these:

That twitter profile is run by what looks to be a strong Hindu-national who constantly tweets anti-Muslim and occasional anti-Christian stuff. Also his claim about “Home-Erectus” is false - the preprint does not state this, and the tweeter’s formulation of “Homo-Erectus” is also non-taxonomic.

Going down into the next level of Twitter Hell, we find this person:

That twitter account is full of the usual ugly with which we often encounter. And btw, his claim about “non human” is not what the preprint says. “Human” is a broad category that now includes the Neanderthals, Denisovans, and also whatever archaic population is in the genomes studied. And his spelling of “Non-Sapian” is also in error. The correct spelling is “sapiens”, lower case and with an e.

Bigots tend to be ignorant.

And every bigot’s favorite smart man (in their eyes), Steve Sailer, chimes in:

Is 8% of West African Yoruban DNA from a “Ghost Archaic” Species?

… where one can find all sorts of stupid and ugly manifesting itself in the comments.

Why do so many people - and it is not just Americans or “white” folk, which is why the first tweet I linked is from an Indian - have such an attraction to misusing this science?

Well, they do. Bigots are bigots because that is what they are. I’m sure we could get some psychologists who work in child development to come up with various reasons, but in the end the bigots are bigots.

My contention is that as a society we have to get to the point where we accept that humanity is a diverse population, the diversity itself a key reason why as a species we have been so successful in outliving all our close relatives, and have taken over the planet.

This gets me back to the kerfuffle over David Reich’s letters in the NYT. Reich takes on the likes of Sailer and Charles Murray in the book, I am told as I have not read it. Reich’s point is that we humans really do differ in our DNA, by ancestral groups, and we ought not to try and run from that discovery.

It becomes very hard to do so (to not run from this field of discovery), when clearly so many people (such as those who I linked above) really want to misuse the information.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:32:02pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:34:29pm

re: #16 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Lou Dobbs Complains About ‘Ethnic Holidays’ Like St. Patrick’s Day (VIDEO) (HuffPo)

Dude is an old-school bigot.

That would be July 4th, idiot (Lou Dobbs, I mean).

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:34:30pm

re: #69 Kragar

EPA threatens to revoke California’s ability to set emissions standards as the Trump administration moves to abandon fuel mileage goals

States rights for me but not thee eh Pruitt.

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stpaulbear  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:36:10pm

re: #63 Weaselone

I’m not as worried about this as I would have been 10 years ago. If domestic manufacturers go along with this, they’ll just be consigning themselves and their cars to the scrap heap.

I agree that many consumers are still going to want fuel-efficient cars, but my concern is that the manufacturer’s will try to push high-profit SUVs if they don’t have to keep their overall mileage ratings below a certain point.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:36:31pm

re: #70 Big Beautiful Door

That would be July 4th, idiot (Lou Dobbs, I mean).

Flag Day too. Dobbs is just bitter because there’s no Trump Ballwarmer Day.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:38:16pm

re: #69 Kragar

EPA threatens to revoke California’s ability to set emissions standards as the Trump administration moves to abandon fuel mileage goals

There is no evil that the GOP will not inflict on this planet. They do not care about the damage to the future — is there a single current member of the party who actually cares about the environment?

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:42:04pm
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mmmirele  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:42:35pm

Keith Rainere, the “Vanguard” of the NXIVM cult was extradited from Mexico to stand charges in New York of sex trafficking and forced labor. This is the guy who had a secret sorority of women who were branded with his initials in the pubic area.

m.timesunion.com

There are other investigations ongoing. But I’m posting this because OMG you do not want to search on the word NXIVM on Twitter. You just don’t. Because you will fall into one of the tentacles of “The Storm” and “QAnon” conspiracy theory crazy. Someone/some people associated with Rainere are supposed to have given money to the Clinton Foundation, so this is proof of nefarious goings’-on.

Uh no. But it’s a cesspool of crazy. You have been warned.

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:46:35pm

re: #72 stpaulbear

I agree that many consumers are still going to want fuel-efficient cars, but my concern is that the manufacturer’s will try to push high-profit SUVs if they don’t have to keep their overall mileage ratings below a certain point.

They already push SUVs. As a car fan, that bums me out. It is getting harder and harder to find a two-door car with manual transmission. SUVs are big profit for the manufacturers.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:48:50pm

re: #70 Big Beautiful Door

That would be July 4th, idiot (Lou Dobbs, I mean).

I’m an idiot today too, but at least I figured out why. I pointed a motion sensitive camera at myself last night, and found that I toss and turn all night long. I got about 5 minutes of restful sleep last night.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:50:50pm
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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:51:55pm

re: #69 Kragar

EPA threatens to revoke California’s ability to set emissions standards as the Trump administration moves to abandon fuel mileage goals

Just wait when Democrats take over, Texas and Oklahoma.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:51:55pm

re: #69 Kragar

EPA threatens to revoke California’s ability to set emissions standards as the Trump administration moves to abandon fuel mileage goals

“States’ rights are great except when I don’t like them.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 1:53:47pm

re: #79 Ace-o-aces

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He doesn’t seem like a real person, but I bit.

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:01:34pm

re: #20 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

So if we bring Mexicans into the white-tent, can we get racist white people to stop freaking out about becoming a minority?

The problem is that Latino/Hispanic is an ethnicity rather than a race (both social constructs, yes) that allows more people in. So Cameron Diaz, George Lopez, and David Ortiz all get to be Latino but only Cameron gets to be white.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:07:10pm
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Citizen K  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:10:22pm

re: #69 Kragar

EPA threatens to revoke California’s ability to set emissions standards as the Trump administration moves to abandon fuel mileage goals

There simply may be no fixing the damage this entire administration can/will do.

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:11:01pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait… I thought if you put more money in the economy that means more people would spend money, meaning sellers could raise prices due to higher demand, which is, in effect… inflation.

Also, I didn’t realize that 2009 was basically a deflationary year, but apparently it was. Oh, and inflation seems to be ticking up the last couple of years.

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:15:01pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:15:18pm

re: #87 KGxvi

Wait… I thought if you put more money in the economy that means more people would spend money, meaning sellers could raise prices due to higher demand, which is, in effect… inflation.

Also, I didn’t realize that 2009 was basically a deflationary year, but apparently it was. Oh, and inflation seems to be ticking up the last couple of years.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Peter Navarro is one of Trump’s leading economic advisers. And there’s no economic theory in which what he said makes any sense.

Inflation ticking up - yep. It’s been running too low for a decade. People hate inflation when they buy stuff, but they love it when they look at their mortgage payments as a percentage of their income.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:17:28pm

re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White

Inflation is discriminatory.

It benefits those who are wealthy enough to own assets whose value will be part of the inflator.

However, the poor, i.e., those without such assets, find themselves with even less.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:24:36pm

re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Peter Navarro is one of Trump’s leading economic advisers. And there’s no economic theory in which what he said makes any sense.

Kind of amazing, really.

Trump’s war-on-expertise is more than just a play to his Fox-addled base. It does appear as if Trump truly is ignorant of exactly what expertise is and is not.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:24:44pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:31:46pm

re: #90 freetoken

Inflation is discriminatory.

It benefits those who are wealthy enough to own assets whose value will be part of the inflator.

However, the poor, i.e., those without such assets, find themselves with even less.

Over time, inflation reduces the real value of your debt, as well as your payments on that debt. Thus, moderate inflation has some benefits, assuming it’s real, wage-and-price inflation.

That’s good for debtors. Not so good for creditors. So, if your income or wealth depend on people owing you money, inflation negatively impacts your real income or wealth.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:33:26pm

A brilliant self-own by conservatives.

Paul Joseph Watson (henchman of the Stupidest Man on the Internet) took that Borg-like Sinclair clip from Deadspin and put it on Gateway Pundit.

He pointed out the eerie similarity of the broadcast, then claimed it was a leftist broadcast company funded by the International JOOOOOOOO George Soros.

Sinclair stations around the country along with conservative blogs and radio stations are now being attacked by conservatives for pushing a “leftist agenda.”

Sadly, that shows how much reach Mr. Hoft has. Hilariously, it shows that no bubble, no bubble, you’re the bubble.

Wingnuts So Mad George Soros Made Sinclair Spread Conservative Propaganda (goes to Wonkette), more at the link:

After Deadspin published the video, Infowars troll Paul Joseph Watson (the one who is always pathetically trying to claim that being conservative is “punk rock” now) published on his own Twitter feed with literally zero contextual information.

He was swiftly credited with creating the video himself by Gateway Pundit — home of Stupidest Man On The Internet, Jim Hoft.

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:35:23pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:36:52pm

re: #95 jaunte

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:38:43pm

FRANKFORT—House and Senate Republicans unveiled the most significant changes to Kentucky’s tax code in more than a decade Monday in attempts to provide funding in a tight budget year.

The full bill is not yet available to the public. House Speaker Pro Tempore David Osborne and House Majority Leader Jonathan Shell declined to speak to the Herald-Leader.

“The whole way this was done is unconscionable,” said Rep. Jim Wayne, D-Louisville. “It’s heavy handed, it’s done by an elite and it’s done behind closed doors without any opportunity for the public to voice opinions or to vet these ideas.”

The Senate passed the budget and tax bill after hours of discussion on Monday afternoon. The tax bill passed without the support of seven Republicans, while only two Republicans voted against the budget.

JFC…

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:43:00pm

The Trump crime family money laundry continues its operations.

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:43:57pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Translation: You Fucking Peons Will Not Be Allowed To Stop GOP Stealing From The State and Nation!!!!!

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Dr. Matt  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:44:22pm

Trump at today’s Easter event: “We never had a economy like it is now”

Dow: “Standby, I’m going to shit the bed right now.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:47:12pm

Bombshell on the personal religion front:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:51:03pm

re: #99 William Lewis

Translation: You Fucking Peons Will Not Be Allowed To Stop GOP Stealing From The State and Nation!!!!!

And that’s what been happening. GOP legislators trying harder and harder to keep the public in the dark about what they are doing.

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scottslemmons  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:53:11pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Bombshell on the personal religion front:

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:54:58pm

Third Woman Sues to Void Secrecy Pact Linked to Donald Trump (Bloomberg Business Week), more at the link:

A former employee of President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign team is seeking to nullify a non-disclosure agreement, saying it potentially put her on the hook to pay $1.5 million because she sued the organization for discrimination and harassment.

Jessica Denson, a Los Angeles-based actress, is the third woman who has sought to void a secrecy agreement involving Trump; the adult film star Stormy Daniels sued to block a pact that she alleges forced her to keep quiet about a sexual encounter with Trump, and former Playboy model, Karen McDougal, sued the parent company of the National Enquirer to void a deal that she says forced her to stay silent about an affair she had with him.

Denson says she joined Trump’s campaign in August 2016 and oversaw phone banks and Hispanic outreach for the campaign. She sued in November seeking $25 million in damages, claiming her superiors on the campaign defamed her, harassed her and discriminated against her. The Trump campaign responded by attempting to move the lawsuit to arbitration, where it submitted a claim for $1.5 million saying Denson breached the confidentiality and non-disparagement obligations of the non-disclosure agreement.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:55:20pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Python No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:57:09pm

LOL

President Trump Announces Plans to Build Monument Commemorating the War on Christmas (goes to the Secular Coalition for America), more:

Today, the Trump Administration unveiled plans to construct a monument hailing the end of the War on Christmas. The new memorial will make good on President Trump’s promise to bring about a peaceful resolution to the nearly 20-year contrived conflict.

“President Trump is proud to declare victory in the War on Christmas,” said a White House spokesman, who repeatedly asked that their name not be used. “No longer will the celebration of Christmas be restricted to private homes, multiple 24/7 radio stations, non-stop television specials, Christmas themed commercials interrupting those television specials, decorations in every major retail outlet, proclamations from elected officials, and a federal holiday. Now that the War on Christmas is over, this cherished religious holiday can finally get the recognition it deserves. The President believes his victory in the War on Christmas will be among the greatest achievements of his presidency.”

At the consecration ceremony for the new monument, President Trump is expected to issue an official proclamation establishing that “Christmas” will now refer to the entire period of time between Thanksgiving and New Year’s Day.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 2:58:59pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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mmmirele  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:01:15pm

The heat is on at Sinclair Broadcasting:

Also, Matt Pearce of the LA Times is doing yeoman’s work on this story.

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:02:33pm
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jaunte  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:03:47pm

re: #108 mmmirele

“The callers most likely don’t know what they’re talking about but we’ll fire you if you speak with them.”

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:04:22pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Bombshell on the personal religion front:

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:04:37pm

re: #107 freetoken

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:05:38pm

re: #103 scottslemmons

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:07:10pm
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blueraven  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:11:48pm

Hey, do y’all remember when Fox News Sunday had their “Obama watch” showing how long it had been since Obama promised them an interview?

Chris Wallace must have some important questions for Barack Obama. After all, the “Fox News Sunday” host has had 769 days to dream them up.

Obama to Appear on ‘Fox News Sunday’.

Five weeks after Mr. Wallace introduced “Obama Watch,” a weekly countdown clock marking the number of days since he said Mr. Obama had committed to an interview, the Fox News Channel announced Thursday that the Democratic presidential candidate would appear on its Sunday morning public affairs show this weekend.

Well, I am thinking all the networks other than Fox should do the same sort of thing. When was the last time Trump gave a nonFOX television interview? Was it the Lester Holt interview almost a year ago? Why are the networks letting him get away with this?

Also when was the last time he gave a solo press conference?

Hell, Obama let Bill fuckin O’Reilly interview him during super bowl. TWICE!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:12:19pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:14:50pm

re: #111 William Lewis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:15:22pm
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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:16:43pm

Getting back to DNA and the discomfort modern science has in its disruptive quality, Nature ran an article last week about this and also a short editorial.

First the editorial:

On the use and abuse of ancient DNA

History might, as historian Arnold Toynbee allegedly said, be one damned thing after another, but historians and archaeologists spend a lot of their time trying to put those things into the right order. Assistance from science over the decades has been transformative, but not without difficulty: it took years for some archaeologists to be won over by radiocarbon dating.

Now, historians and archaeologists are grappling with a new scientific technique. As we discuss in a News Feature, the genetic study of ancient DNA is exploding, and the findings are posing several problems. One is a need for geneticists, archaeologists, historians and anthropologists to understand exactly how their skills and insights complement each other’s. It is clear, for example, that although genetics has useful things to say about the sweep of population history, the more conventional disciplines provide essential context.

[…]

And the article:

Divided by DNA: The uneasy relationship between archaeology and ancient genomics

Genomics has been disruptive to archeology but I think the biggest effect has been in that genomics is deepening the divide between cultural anthropologists and physical anthropologists.

This sort of echoes their recent conflict on whether anthropology ought to be part of a science body (like biology or physics) or not (e.g., “liberal arts”, like historians.)

Anyway, the churn will continue and given America’s current social experiment in idiocracy I’m not sure a great deal will be integrated into the larger public, from these ivory-tower discussions.

Which is true, I suppose, of all fields that require large technical expertise.

The problem of science writing was highlighted in a recent NYT article: At 12, His Science Video Went Viral. At 14, He Fears He Was Too Rude.

Marco Zozaya in March near his home in Mexico. He aspires to be a science communicator like Neil deGrasse Tyson, but faces the conundrum of internet audiences and algorithms that may prefer drama over scientific information.

We’ve often lamented here how science discoveries get misconstrued.

This problem is going to get worse as time goes on because (assuming Trump is not successful is terminating modernity) in each field of expertise the amount of discoveries increases as long as we have the ability to archive what has been previously discovered.

This means someone new to a field has a higher mountain to climb, when they start at the basics and want to know what is the cutting edge in the field.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:22:27pm
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blueraven  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:23:31pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Death by a thousand cuts. Trump cares nothing about The People and their healthcare needs. All he cares about is destroying anything associated with Obama. He is a sick, cruel, ignorant bully.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:24:15pm

LOL…sure thing…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:34:19pm

re: #108 mmmirele

The heat is on at Sinclair Broadcasting:

Also, Matt Pearce of the LA Times is doing yeoman’s work on this story.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:36:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:36:13pm

The website Hogg Watch (hoggwatch.com) was registered on March 24 and is connected to naturalnews.com, which is run by Mike Adams. According to domain search service WHOIS, a site called Hogg Watch was registered on March 24. The site shares the Disqus shortname (a kind of ID for using the Disqus service) “naturalnews” with naturalnews.com, according to analytic tool Trendolizer. Gizmodo noted that Mike Adams is “the self-declared ‘Health Ranger’ behind questionably reliable pseudoscience site Natural News,” a site that has pushed fake news and conspiracy theories.

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Adams was recently booted from YouTube. Gizmodo noted that Adams’ YouTube channel had been banned “for violating YouTube’s Community Guidelines.” Adams had pushed claims that mass shootings were often false flags, including that there was going to be a “massive false flag attack planned to stop Trump” in 2016. Adams has blamed the Southern Poverty Law Center for the YouTube ban and claimed it was in part due to him interviewing someone who denied the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School was real.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:38:15pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:38:17pm

Democrat Amy McGrath (KY-6) pulls all her adverts from Sinclair-owned television stations.

thehill.com

A Kentucky Democrat running for Congress is pulling her campaign advertising from a television station owned by Sinclair Broadcasting Group, a conservative media company that has been under fire for mandating anchors across the country warn their viewers about “fake news.”
Amy McGrath, a retired Marine who is running in Kentucky’s 6th District for the Democratic nomination to take on GOP Rep. Andy Barr, announced Monday that her campaign would no longer advertise on WDKY-TV in light of the revelations. Sinclair-owned WDKY is based in Lexington, a dominant television market in the district.

(more)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:40:15pm
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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:42:45pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹

Democrat Amy McGrath (KY-6) pulls all her adverts from Sinclair-owned television stations.

thehill.com

(more)

I wonder if local news viewership has been ideologically sorted?

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:44:52pm

re: #129 KGxvi

I wonder if local news viewership has been ideologically sorted?

I wonder too… I suspect it has to some extent, but local TV viewership is probably driven more by other programming than any local news content.

Sinclair runs mostly junk or old reruns, or did in the past, but as it has grown has offered more content.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:45:02pm

Evening Lizardim.

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mmmirele  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:45:50pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:47:20pm
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Mattand  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:47:37pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:47:56pm

I see people are reacting to Fox News co-president coming out in support of Ingraham, said co-president blathering on about censorship.

But my question to those who complain about Fox News is this: Do you watch the regular, OTA Fox TV network? How about the Fox Sports channels?

Because the money goes to all the same people.

So if some aspirin company pulls their ads from Laura’s show, but still pays Fox the same amount of money and their adverts show up on some other Fox show, does it really make a difference?

Murdoch doesn’t care what his viewers believe anymore than what his on-air personalities do. He just cares about taking in money.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:50:06pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:50:10pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well it’s not like anything bad happened to the stock market in 1929…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:54:31pm
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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:56:36pm

re: #135 freetoken

I see people are reacting to Fox News co-president coming out in support of Ingraham, said co-president blathering on about censorship.

But my question to those who complain about Fox News is this: Do you watch the regular, OTA Fox TV network? How about the Fox Sports channels?

Because the money goes to all the same people.

So if some aspirin company pulls their ads from Laura’s show, but still pays Fox the same amount of money and their adverts show up on some other Fox show, does it really make a difference?

Murdoch doesn’t care what his viewers believe anymore than what his on-air personalities do. He just cares about taking in money.

Eh, yes and no. If the local baseball/basketball/hockey team plays on a Fox Sports channel, chances are part of that money goes to the team, at least indirectly (Fox Sports agreed to pay some amount of money to the team to broadcast their games, based in part on expected ratings, which in turn drive the ad rates they can charge). Same with Fox OTA, not every show on Fox broadcast is produced by Fox’s production company - so that money is going, again, in directly, at least in part to the production company and the people who worked on the show. Fox News Channel, however, is all in house, much more of that ad money goes to FNC and its employees (like Ingraham).

And, I don’t know the exact details of Fox’s corporate structure, but I’m guessing there’s multiple subsidiaries within the empire so if one subsidiary under performs the others, perhaps that will spur some change in the under performing business.

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mmmirele  Apr 2, 2018 • 3:57:10pm

re: #103 scottslemmons

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:04:21pm

re: #139 KGxvi

But my point is, Fox News will never “underperform” because it was already created to cater to a particular demographic.

And it is not that demographic who pressured Bayer et. al. to drop their ads from Ingraham’s show.

Those advertisers who are dropping their ads are doing nothing more than theatre.

Fox will just move advertisers from other time slots to Ingraham’s.

Then the holes left for adverts on those other shows will get filled by those very same companies who left Ingraham’s show.

Beware of theatre as a substitute for real change.

The Fox co-president’s letter is evidence that the message that the boycotters are wanting really did not in the end get through.

Because if it did, said co-president wouldn’t have turned around and used it as a marketing tool.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:06:01pm

re: #140 mmmirele

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:06:58pm

We’ve been down this road before, with Fox News (and its spinoffs like the the Fox Business channel.)

People have tried boycotts before. This or that company pulls ads for a while.

And what happens?

Fox goes even more over the edge, which is why they are so in the tank for helping Trump turn the US into a fascist state.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:07:55pm

re: #121 blueraven

Death by a thousand cuts. Trump cares nothing about The People and their healthcare needs. All he cares about is destroying anything associated with Obama. He is a sick, cruel, ignorant bully.

It’s the entire Republican party that falls in this category, except some aren’t ignorant — just evil

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:11:35pm

re: #143 freetoken

We’ve been down this road before, with Fox News (and its spinoffs like the the Fox Business channel.)

People have tried boycotts before. This or that company pulls ads for a while.

And what happens?

Fox goes even more over the edge, which is why they are so in the tank for helping Trump turn the US into a fascist state.

Well, as we saw with O’Rielly, it ended with his show being gone. Same could happen to Ingraham after her surprise one week vacation (same thing that O’Rielly did). The next step in this process is getting companies to wait to buy ad time until we see what replaces the bad. If the bad is replaced by equally bad, or worse, then you’re right it does nothing.

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Skip Intro  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:12:34pm

re: #145 KGxvi

It’s Fox so of course it will be equally bad, or worse.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:14:52pm

re: #145 KGxvi

O’Reilly is gone because he opened up the corporation to being held partly responsible for a sexual harassment claim, that supposedly cost Fox $1.6 million.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:15:13pm

re: #147 freetoken

O’Reilly is gone because he opened up the corporation to being held partly responsible for a sexual harassment claim, that supposedly cost Fox $1.6 million.

Companies tend to frown on employees costing them large sums of money.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:17:40pm

re: #134 Mattand

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:18:26pm

re: #147 freetoken

O’Reilly is gone because he opened up the corporation to being held partly responsible for a sexual harassment claim, that supposedly cost Fox $1.6 million.

If O’Reilly kept bringing in ad money while that was happening, they would have kept him on air with some mealymouthed line about due process and second chances and personal matters. But the advertisers bailed on his show. Like Harvey Weinstein, it was no longer just a matter of his sexual harassment exploits being part of the expected costs, it was actively costing the company money.

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:21:01pm

re: #149 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:21:09pm

re: #150 KGxvi

Well, ok, but that is not what is happening to Ingraham’s show.

If so, then the co-president of the company wouldn’t use this boycott as a marketing tool.

Put another way, did Fox’s executive use the dismissal of O’Reilly as a marketing tool? No, not really. Because in the case of O’Reilly, Bill really did cost Fox some money.

Fox apparently thinks it can now make money from the whole Ingraham thing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:21:12pm

re: #149 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:21:52pm

Shocked, shocked I say

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:25:15pm

re: #154 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Shocked, shocked I say

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:25:48pm
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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:25:53pm

re: #152 freetoken

Well, ok, but that is not what is happening to Ingraham’s show.

If so, then the co-president of the company wouldn’t use this boycott as a marketing tool.

Put another way, did Fox’s executive use the dismissal of O’Reilly as a marketing tool? No, not really. Because in the case of O’Reilly, Bill really did cost Fox some money.

Fox apparently thinks it can now make money from the whole Ingraham thing.

Fair points. This one may well play out differently than the last go around, or at least FNC brass thinks they can make it play out differently. Here’s hoping it blows up in their faces.

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scottslemmons  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:29:17pm

re: #132 mmmirele

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:34:29pm
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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:38:55pm

re: #151 KGxvi

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mmmirele  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:41:04pm

re: #158 scottslemmons

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:41:15pm

re: #156 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Does she write dating advice under the name of Carey Purcell?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:41:41pm

LOL

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:41:59pm

re: #117 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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MsJ  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:45:45pm

re: #164 ObserverArt

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:46:35pm

re: #163 Anymouse 🌹

LOL

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DAMN that Church of Adobe!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:46:44pm

re: #160 William Lewis

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Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:47:53pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:50:04pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

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Another day, another example of behavior that would led to a Democrat being impeached.

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:50:29pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

Is Trump really going to pick a fight with the richest man in the world? A man that is 30 times wealthier than him… and who is self-made rather than a trust fund kid?

Why do I not think this is going to work out well for the president?

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:51:08pm

re: #169 Targetpractice

Another day, another example of behavior that would led to a DemocratANYFUCKINGONE ELSE being impeached.

Fixed for accuracy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:51:48pm

re: #170 KGxvi

Is Trump really going to pick a fight with the richest man in the world? A man that is 30 times wealthier than him… and who is self-made rather than a trust fund kid?

Why do I not think this is going to work out well for the president?

A direct lawsuit by Jeff Bezos if he’s slandered would be nice… .

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:52:52pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:54:03pm

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹

A direct lawsuit by Jeff Bezos if he’s slandered would be nice… .

Bezos would probably be considered a public person, so there would be the actual malice requirement… but the odds that Trump would intentionally say something untrue, or engaged in slander per se, are somewhere around -1400 right now.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:54:04pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:55:20pm

re: #135 freetoken

I see people are reacting to Fox News co-president coming out in support of Ingraham, said co-president blathering on about censorship.

But my question to those who complain about Fox News is this: Do you watch the regular, OTA Fox TV network? How about the Fox Sports channels?

Because the money goes to all the same people.

So if some aspirin company pulls their ads from Laura’s show, but still pays Fox the same amount of money and their adverts show up on some other Fox show, does it really make a difference?

Murdoch doesn’t care what his viewers believe anymore than what his on-air personalities do. He just cares about taking in money.

Isn’t Fox News the tool that is damaging, not some of their other networks?

In other words…eye on the target. IMO.

If Fox sticks to standard comic and dramatic programming and sports what is the issue if they make money that way? That isn’t what the students are out to achieve.

If Fox is forced to make a change in Fox News for the better, all the better. That would make the boycotts effective.

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scottslemmons  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:55:30pm

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹

A direct lawsuit by Jeff Bezos if he’s slandered would be nice… .

The image of Bezos’ lawyers repeatedly curbstomping Trump’s last-in-his-class mall lawyer for a week would be fairly amusing. By the time it was over, Bezos could own Mar-a-Lago… :)

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:55:51pm

re: #171 KGxvi

Fixed for accuracy.

I just can’t believe that anymore. The GOP’s manic hold on every last shred of power they continue to possess makes any thought that they will ever again be a party of principle and law ridiculous. Trump is just the first recipient of this total abdication, but you can be sure that any Republican holding the office going forward will receive the same protection from their loyal cronies in the legislature.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:56:53pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:57:54pm

re: #174 KGxvi

Bezos would probably be considered a public person, so there would be the actual malice requirement… but the odds that Trump would intentionally say something untrue, or engaged in slander per se, are somewhere around -1400 right now.

Trump already did say something untrue (Amazon doesn’t charge state sales taxes).

He is also using the power of the Executive to attack a business, which I understand is against the law.

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scottslemmons  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:57:57pm

re: #179 Anymouse 🌹

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:58:13pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

I just can’t believe that anymore. The GOP’s manic hold on every last shred of power they continue to possess makes any thought that they will ever again be a party of principle and law ridiculous. Trump is just the first recipient of this total abdication, but you can be sure that any Republican holding the office going forward will receive the same protection from their loyal cronies in the legislature.

I was thinking more of past tense… either Bush or Reagan coming out and personally attacking the head of a major corporation is unthinkable, and I just can’t imagine the Congressional GOP of their times would have gone along with it.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:59:00pm

re: #182 scottslemmons

Now I want Bezos to buy Twitter.

hahaha

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:59:17pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

I just can’t believe that anymore. The GOP’s manic hold on every last shred of power they continue to possess makes any thought that they will ever again be a party of principle and law ridiculous. Trump is just the first recipient of this total abdication, but you can be sure that any Republican holding the office going forward will receive the same protection from their loyal cronies in the legislature.

Conservatism is only concerned with gaining and maintaining power. That is the core principle of it’s religious dogma.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 4:59:56pm

Strangely, I don’t find it that offensive that a politician has an issue with the head of a corporation.

But, I do find it disturbing that Trump’s tweets on Amazon show that he has no clue how anything is done.

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:00:39pm

re: #183 KGxvi

I was thinking more of past tense… either Bush or Reagan coming out and personally attacking the head of a major corporation is unthinkable, and I just can’t imagine the Congressional GOP of their times would have gone along with it.

I was thinking more in the contemporary or future sense. Reagan and Bush were smart enough not to start a war with a private entity, which is pretty much what Trump is doing. And the GOP is going to go along with it because they want to knock Bezos (and, through him, WAPO) down a peg.

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:00:41pm

re: #141 freetoken

But my point is, Fox News will never “underperform” because it was already created to cater to a particular demographic.

And it is not that demographic who pressured Bayer et. al. to drop their ads from Ingraham’s show.

Those advertisers who are dropping their ads are doing nothing more than theatre.

Fox will just move advertisers from other time slots to Ingraham’s.

Then the holes left for adverts on those other shows will get filled by those very same companies who left Ingraham’s show.

Beware of theatre as a substitute for real change.

The Fox co-president’s letter is evidence that the message that the boycotters are wanting really did not in the end get through.

Because if it did, said co-president wouldn’t have turned around and used it as a marketing tool.

Fox is trying to save face. They would never admit to anything hurting them.

If anything goes on it will be behind the scenes and on the downlow. Same way they booted O’Reilly. They want to keep up appearances of not worrying, we got this. It will hold their viewers.

You are making some judgement based on a few days. Let it play out a bit more for a real study.

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:01:49pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:03:14pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:05:16pm

re: #190 Anymouse 🌹

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stpaulbear  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:06:22pm

re: #191 gocart mozart

That’s really low when David Crosby calls you an asshole.

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:06:24pm

re: #191 gocart mozart

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:06:49pm

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

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Cheechako  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:06:53pm

What trump is too stupid to understand is that FedEx and UPS also handle Amazon shipments. Plus, FedEx and UPS also use the USPS to deliver packages to the more sparsely parts of the Country where the USPS is required to serve but is unprofitable for FedEx and UPS to deliver just a package or two.

Many times I’ve had the USPS deliver packages which began their journey via FedEx or UPS. The strangest part is that FedEx and UPS do have shipping offices here.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:09:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:09:54pm

re: #196 Cheechako

What trump is too stupid to understand is that FedEx and UPS also handle Amazon shipments. Plus, FedEx and UPS also use the USPS to deliver packages to the more sparsely parts of the Country where the USPS is required to serve but is unprofitable for FedEx and UPS to deliver just a package or two.

Many times I’ve had the USPS deliver packages which began their journey via FedEx or UPS. The strangest part is that FedEx and UPS do have shipping offices here.

When I order something from Amazon, it comes directly via the USPS (no FedEx or UPS as they won’t deliver here). Our tiny village post office is also profitable for the USPS (as my wife and the gun shop owner here demonstrated when the USPS tried to shut it down).

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Fontaine, a young man from Massachusetts, filed suit in the district court of Travis County, Texas on Monday against InfoWars head Alex Jones; InfoWars reporter Kit Daniels; InfoWars LLC; and Free Speech Systems, LLC, InfoWars’ parent company. The suit charges that InfoWars “irreparably tainted” his reputation in a report that falsely claimed he was suspected as the Stoneman Douglas shooter. (more)

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:10:31pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:13:18pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:13:19pm

re: #199 Targetpractice

It has been said many times, “Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

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LastYearsMan  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:16:28pm

re: #199 Targetpractice

The man truly does want to be a dictator. He looks at Vlad and wonders why he can’t have that level of power.

What’s weird to me isn’t that he’s a moron or an autocrat, but that he has zero ideas that would actually help people. You’d think he’d accidentally stumble into one or two semi-useful ideas. He’s not even a broken clock.

(Okay, I guess it’s possible that his flailing on NK might help Asian geopolitics. Not his “tough talk” of course, which is less than useless. But letting NK develop its nukes as much as they did last year and ignoring Japan might actually be helping things a little. Maybe.)

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:18:36pm

Trump’s a man who bought into the wingnut talking points about how a president enjoys total power to do whatever he chooses and thus when something doesn’t happen then it’s due to his choice rather than constraints upon the office. So when he got into office and discovered that he couldn’t order anything he wanted to happen, he decided the problem was simply one that Congress could “fix.” After years of accusing the DNC of various acts against the Constitution, we’re seeing proof positive that wingnuts haven’t the first fucking clue what the document actually says.

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majii  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:19:38pm

re: #170 KGxvi

“Is Trump really going to pick a fight with the richest man in the world? A man that is 30 times wealthier than him… and who is self-made rather than a trust fund kid?”

Of course he is. This isn’t about failing retail businesses, it’s not about The Talking Yam’s concern about Americans’ economic well-being, and it’s not about the USPS. This is about The Talking Yam’s jealousy in regard to Bezos being wealthier than he is. The TY moved down on the list of America’s wealthiest persons, Bezos moved up, and that seriously bothers the TY.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:20:10pm

re: #203 Targetpractice

As my dear late dad used to say, They read but they do not comprehend.

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:20:57pm

re: #191 gocart mozart

Heh, he updated the tweet

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:21:09pm

Bezos could fuck with him by getting his tax statements.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:21:18pm

Don’t know if this has been mentioned, but a woman who worked on the Trump Campaign and has alleged she was sexually harassed is suing to void her NDA.

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Skip Intro  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:21:49pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:22:12pm

re: #174 KGxvi

Bezos would probably be considered a public person, so there would be the actual malice requirement… but the odds that Trump would intentionally say something untrue, or engaged in slander per se, are somewhere around -1400 right now.

Also the President can’t be sued personally for official acts and the Article 1 Section prohibition against Bills of Attainder only pertains to actual laws passed by Congress. Trump can do something so egregious, damaging and unfair that forces Bezos / Amazon to sue the government, and Trump is handing him lots of ammo to use in Court, but as long as Trump argues he’s acting as President his personal liability is basically nil.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:22:29pm

re: #204 majii

As an Amazon customer I love the fact I can get almost anything I need from them. And if Jeff Bezos were giving lessons on how to make money I would sign up for the talks/courses.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:23:00pm

Shameless page promotion:

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:25:37pm

re: #208 Big Beautiful Door

Don’t know if this has been mentioned, but a woman who worked on the Trump Campaign and has alleged she was sexually harassed is suing to void her NDA.

I beat you to it, but it’s worth posting again anyway.

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:26:32pm

re: #165 MsJ

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:26:50pm

David Crosby and Tommy Chong debate religion

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:29:21pm

P.S. The obsession with Bezos tells me that Trump believes the Washington Post has an absolutely explosive, horribly damaging story on deck.

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Skip Intro  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:29:24pm

Are there still people here who don’t understand why Amazon is tanking? Maybe this will help.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:29:57pm

re: #215 gocart mozart

David Crosby and Tommy Chong debate religion

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Respect both guys. I wish we could see this unfold in live time.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:30:10pm

And Assange is busy tonight tweeting at Trump….

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stpaulbear  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:31:03pm

re: #209 Skip Intro

Wow.

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:31:26pm

re: #217 Skip Intro

All of which violate laws that I have to listen to every year at my government contractor job. The amount of money Bezos could win for bad faith attacks like that would allow him to open Amazon 2 as a competitor to Amazon.

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Skip Intro  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:31:45pm

re: #219 lawhawk

This is all going to end so badly I can no longer imagine just how horrible it’s going to be.

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:33:01pm

re: #186 freetoken

Strangely, I don’t find it that offensive that a politician has an issue with the head of a corporation.

But, I do find it disturbing that Trump’s tweets on Amazon show that he has no clue how anything is done.

Are you saying you are okay with a President, having a power pulpit and the ability to influence the law, targeting a private business, especially with all the knowns in this case.

That’s a head scratcher at best.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:33:50pm

re: #219 lawhawk

Or as Rick Wilson says, “Shut up, rapey.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:34:15pm

re: #217 Skip Intro

Are there still people here who don’t understand why Amazon is tanking? Maybe this will help.

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This is a full scale assault on the 1st Amendment as Trump uses the power of the state to try to silence the Post. Another impeachable offense, IMO.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:36:48pm

re: #225 Big Beautiful Door

This is a full scale assault on the 1st Amendment as Trump uses the power of the state to try to silence the Post. Another impeachable offense, IMO.

Is that really why he’s going after Bezos? Fuck.

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Skip Intro  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:37:22pm

re: #221 Belafon

All of which violate laws that I have to listen to every year at my government contractor job. The amount of money Bezos could win for bath faith attacks like that would allow him to open Amazon 2 as a competitor to Amazon.

That’s the way it worked two years ago, and for most of the country’s history. Now nothing works that way any more.

Trump is a dictator in everything but name now, and if he wants to personally destroy someone or some company there’s no one to stop him. And I mean No One.

Impeachment should be the only topic anyone is talking about in DC and the media now, but it isn’t. Because of that Trump can do anything he damn well pleases.

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:37:35pm

re: #226 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Is that really why he’s going after Bezos? Fuck.

Yep. He calls the newspaper the Amazon Washington Post.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:37:57pm

re: #215 gocart mozart

David Crosby and Tommy Chong debate religion

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The Algonquin Round Table that 2018 deserves.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:38:07pm

re: #223 ObserverArt

Are you saying you are okay with a President, having a power pulpit and the ability to influence the law, targeting a private business, especially with all the knowns in this cas

That’s a head scratcher at best.

What I am saying is that it is not unusual for heads of large corporations to be targets of politicians.

Take for example the Koch brothers. They are the targets of Democrats at times.

What I find troublesome is that Trump doesn’t know how anything about governance is supposed to, or really does, work.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:38:12pm

re: #226 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Is that really why he’s going after Bezos? Fuck.

This is the ‘comfortable with the job’ Trump, the ‘If you didn’t want me to do it, you should have stopped me’ Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:38:20pm

re: #226 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Is that really why he’s going after Bezos? Fuck.

He may have financial motives too. Man this is so messed up. Sigh we knew this kind of crap would happen butter emails.//

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:38:20pm

re: #226 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Is that really why he’s going after Bezos? Fuck.

There are plenty of billionaires richer than Trump, but only one owns the Washington Post.

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:38:23pm

re: #227 Skip Intro

That’s the way it worked two years ago, and for most of the country’s history. Now nothing works that way any more.

Trump is a dictator in everything but name now, and if he wants to personally destroy someone or some company there’s no one to stop him. And I mean No One.

Impeachment should be the only topic anyone is talking about in DC and the media now, but it isn’t. Because of that Trump can do anything he damn well pleases.

The emoluments lawsuit in DC is still going on. The Daniels’ lawsuit is still going on.

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MsJ  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:38:34pm

re: #214 ObserverArt

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:39:09pm

re: #230 freetoken

What I am saying is that it is not unusual for heads of large corporations to be targets of politicians.

Take for example the Koch brothers. They are the targets of Democrats at times.

What I find troublesome is that Trump doesn’t know how anything about governance is supposed to, or really does, work.

How many times has Obama threatened to pull contracts or to have them investigated for cause?

Edit: Please don’t both-side this.

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BeachDem  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:39:37pm

re: #206 gocart mozart

Heh, he updated the tweet

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:40:14pm

re: #229 goddamnedfrank

The Algonquin Round Table that 2018 deserves.

Tommy Chong’s brain vs David Crosby’s transplanted liver.

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Skip Intro  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:41:08pm

re: #226 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Is that really why he’s going after Bezos? Fuck.

Maybe, but that’s just the cherry on top of the sundae. Trump wants to destroy Bezos, his company, and the value of the investments of the tens of millions of people who own stock in his company. Me included.

And the GOP does nothing.

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:42:48pm

A variety of important information about breast cancer and breast cancer screenings has gone missing from the Department of Health and Human Services women’s health website. The Sunlight Foundation tracks changes to government sites and they published a report on the now-vanished information.

The “Breast Cancer” website and related pages were removed from within the Department of Health and Human Services’ (HHS) Office on Women’s Health (OWH) website. While content about mammogram breast cancer screening remains, informational pages and factsheets about the disease, including symptoms, treatment, risk factors, and public no- or low-cost cancer screening programs, have been entirely removed and are no longer found elsewhere on the OWH site. Among the material removed is information about provisions of the Affordable Care Act that require coverage of no-cost breast cancer screenings for certain women, as well as links to a free cancer screening program administered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The office did not proactively announce or explain the removals.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:42:57pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:43:03pm

re: #239 Skip Intro

Maybe, but that’s just the cherry on top of the sundae. Trump wants to destroy Bezos, his company, and the value of the investments of the tens of millions of people who own stock in his company. Me included.

And the GOP does nothing.

Yes, but Trump doesn’t want to do that to another billionaire, Rupert Murdoch. If the Post gave Trump the kind of sycophantic coverage Fox News does, he and Bezos would be best buds.

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stpaulbear  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:43:26pm

Everyone uses Amazon. Trump is going to step in it if he seriously goes after Amazon. The Tinpot Dictator is going to make too obvious a play.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:44:42pm

re: #239 Skip Intro

Trump can try to destroy Bezos. But Mr Bezos did not get to where he is today without learning some difficult lessons. I think (and I pray like heck I am correct) Bezos has a few surprises for Trump. And Trump can yell and scream and tweet all he wants and he will not get Bezos.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:44:50pm

re: #240 Belafon

Unfu….

These people truly are evil and will consign people to horrible fates because they’re intent on destroying every last program and policy relating to Obama.

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Skip Intro  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:45:29pm

re: #234 Belafon

Daniels lawsuit is small potatoes, and who knows how many years it will take for the emoluments lawsuit to work it’s way through the courts or how many Trump appointed judges will then be on the bench.

We are running out of time. I don’t think I’m the only one who feels that way.

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:45:54pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

P.S. The obsession with Bezos tells me that Trump believes the Washington Post has an absolutely explosive, horribly damaging story on deck.

So, he is pre-fogging the atmosphere and getting his sheep in line with all the herding dogs at work. Time for some defense.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:47:21pm

re: #240 Belafon

Can’t say “breast” anymore. They’ll get the “dirty-pillow” cancer page up soon. Spoiler: It’ll tell us that cancer is God’s punishment.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:47:32pm

re: #217 Skip Intro

Are there still people here who don’t understand why Amazon is tanking? Maybe this will help.

Do tell. I think the Parkland kids, Stormy, and Democratic candidates from coast to coast have found a new funding source, one that dwarfs the Mercer/Koch axis.

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Skip Intro  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:48:02pm

re: #241 lawhawk

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:49:50pm

Bezos should declare that the Washington Post is being run independently, just like Trump’s properties.

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:49:53pm

re: #237 BeachDem

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Heh. I laughed at the Trump/Nugent bit. My 16 year old boy says “What?” I read it to him. “Who is Nugent?” I laughed even harder :D

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stpaulbear  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:50:18pm

re: #249 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Do tell. I think the Parkland kids, Stormy, and Democratic candidates from coast to coast have found a new funding source, one that dwarfs the Mercer/Koch axis.

I wonder how many people have become multi-millionaires via Amazon? There’s going to be a lot of pissed-off money.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:52:04pm

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fern01  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:53:00pm

re: #174 KGxvi

Bezos would probably be considered a public person, so there would be the actual malice requirement… but the odds that Trump would intentionally say something untrue, or engaged in slander per se, are somewhere around -1400 right now.

With trump there is always malice - this will be no problem to prove.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:54:14pm

re: #254 Stanley Sea

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:54:27pm

re: #255 fern01

With trump there is always malice - this will be no problem to prove.

There are tweets, which every court has recognized as policy.

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:54:40pm

re: #230 freetoken

What I am saying is that it is not unusual for heads of large corporations to be targets of politicians.

Take for example the Koch brothers. They are the targets of Democrats at times.

What I find troublesome is that Trump doesn’t know how anything about governance is supposed to, or really does, work.

So a Democrat has threatened to “fuck with” the Kocks actual business?

You sure you are not getting the political arm of the Kochs mixed up with the business of Amazon? Because they are not the same.

Sure the Democrats/liberals target the Kochs politics and it has caused many people to boycott their products. But I don’t know of an example a Democratic politician, with the power of an office, go after another political enemy’s business.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:55:19pm

re: #256 PhillyPretzel

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BeachDem  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:56:48pm

re: #254 Stanley Sea

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stpaulbear  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:59:31pm

I’m starting to get pissed off at Fedex. I’m trying to edit a delivery so that they don’t drop off a $400 item on my front porch while I’m at work tomorrow, and I keep getting a message that says Customize delivery options are unavailable at this time. Please try again later.. Snow is forecast almost all day tomorrow and I don’t want to have to race home to bring it in the house and then drive back to work.

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2018 • 5:59:37pm

This is sad

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fern01  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:00:37pm

re: #236 Belafon

How many times has Obama threatened to pull contracts or to have them investigated for cause?

Edit: Please don’t both-side this.

And how many times did Obama use twitter to attack political and business rivals - like never.

The media’s continual use of both sides is unfortunately making usually sane people attack their own team FOR NO VALID REASON

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Stanley Sea  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:00:53pm

re: #260 BeachDem

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BeachDem  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:03:13pm

re: #264 Stanley Sea

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:03:28pm

re: #262 gocart mozart

This is sad

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Why would anyone despise them? I can understand disagreeing but despising them?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:03:54pm

re: #261 stpaulbear

I’m starting to get pissed off at Fedex. I’m trying to edit a delivery so that they don’t drop off a $400 item on my front porch while I’m at work tomorrow, and I keep getting a message that says Customize delivery options are unavailable at this time. Please try again later.. Snow is forecast almost all day tomorrow and I don’t want to have to race home to bring it in the house and then drive back to work.

My post office doesn’t do that. A package too big they will hold, and if for some reason I don’t get over there to collect it, the delivery clerk will bring it round my house.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:05:17pm

re: #265 BeachDem

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:05:55pm

re: #262 gocart mozart

This is sad

I don’t suppose the dingbat could be reported to Twitter non-Safety?

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:07:09pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:07:55pm

re: #266 HappyWarrior

Why would anyone despise them? I can understand disagreeing but despising them?

It is hard for us to understand the black, twisted hearts of the extreme right. These are the kinds of people who would happily march enemies of the state into gas chambers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:07:58pm

One thing a Wonkette non-commetator noted to out a foreign troll is to ask them what their favourite whiskey brand is from a list (and give them a list of obscure rum brands).

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Stanley Sea  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:08:52pm

oh boy

At least Gen Kelly will be working this week

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:08:54pm

re: #270 lawhawk

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Great. We elected Confirmation Bias as President.

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:10:03pm

re: #241 lawhawk

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The poll (of course) is Rasmussen, which is only a surprise if you’re new to this country.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:10:45pm

Don’t dare call them racists …

Trump’s DOJ to impose an ‘unprecedented’ quota on federal immigration judges: report (Raw Story)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:13:22pm
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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:13:52pm

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹

Don’t dare call them racists …

Trump’s DOJ to impose an ‘unprecedented’ quota on federal immigration judges: report (Raw Story)

Trump isn’t for legal immigration. He’s for shutting down immigration.

This is straight out the nativist/white supremacist playbook.

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:14:11pm

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹

I think the kid has it under control

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Stanley Sea  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:14:47pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:15:28pm

re: #277 Anymouse 🌹

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Yes, but note the gun didn’t kill anyone, the five-year-old did.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:15:30pm

re: #236 Belafon

How many times has Obama threatened to pull contracts or to have them investigated for cause?

Obama never did it himself, that I can remember, of targeting a specific person.

But you will find other elected officials who make this or that corporate personality a target for their attention.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:16:20pm

I thought to give myself a challenge. Take a mundane scene and set it up to be a more artful (I hope) result. So I thought to isolate a pedestrian crossing a busy street and kick the light to a more evocative tone. Hit or miss?

Solitary In Public
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:16:59pm

re: #283 Unshaken Defiance

I like it. Well done.

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:18:08pm

re: #282 freetoken

Obama never did it himself, that I can remember, of targeting a specific person.

But you will find other elected officials who make this or that corporate personality a target for their attention.

That’s what I want to know. Is there a Democrat that went after even the Koch’s by specifically threatening to end contracts or force investigations?

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:18:26pm

re: #283 Unshaken Defiance

I thought to give myself a challenge. Take a mundane scene and set it up to be a more artful (I hope) result. So I thought to isolate a pedestrian crossing a busy street and kick the light to a more evocative tone. Hit or miss?

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Hollywood Tank Man!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:19:08pm

DO NOT CONGRA… .

Trump congratulates Egypt’s president after heavily criticized election (ABC)

President Donald Trump on Monday called Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi to congratulate him on winning last week’s Egyptian presidential election, according to el-Sissi’s office. The Egyptian leader faced virtually no real competition and won 97 percent of the vote.

(more, with video)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:19:42pm

re: #279 gocart mozart

I think the kid has it under control

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Yeah he’s not phased at all.

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:20:14pm

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹

Don’t dare call them racists …

Trump’s DOJ to impose an ‘unprecedented’ quota on federal immigration judges: report (Raw Story)

There’s roughly 260 work days in 2018. We’re already 66 days into that and now Jefferson Beauregard is imposing this quota. Assuming 700 divided by the remaining 195 work days, these judges would each have to clear 4 cases a day to meet their quota before year’s end. Don’t be surprised if we start hearing more stories about summary judgments.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:23:13pm

re: #284 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Thanks much. Now I’ve fallen in love with a lens type I can’t afford to own, lol.

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:24:28pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:24:42pm

re: #290 Unshaken Defiance

Thanks much. Now I’ve fallen in love with a lens type I can’t afford to own, lol.

Isn’t that always the way of things? You find a toy, they let you play with it, you do something amazing with it and then you can’t afford to take it home, so you have to return it.

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:25:31pm

The sickness of Ted Cruz is to see Sutherland Springs as the story of a good guy with an AR-15.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:25:47pm

re: #283 Unshaken Defiance

It looks like you went with a shallow depth of field to mimic miniature mode…. aka diorama…

I’ve never tried it - I try to go for realistic/life-like with minimal processing other than cropping. But that’s an interesting technique with shallow depth of field.

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:25:51pm

And to try to benefit himself by telling it that way.

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:28:08pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:30:29pm

It’s just data…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:30:35pm

re: #291 jaunte

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27 people dead and Zodiac praises the gun. Sick asshole.

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:32:12pm

re: #298 HappyWarrior

27 people dead and Zodiac praises the gun. Sick asshole.

They must maintain the myth about how the single “good guy with a gun” somehow saved “others.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:32:16pm

re: #294 lawhawk

It looks like you went with a shallow depth of field to mimic miniature mode…. aka diorama…

I’ve never tried it - I try to go for realistic/life-like with minimal processing other than cropping. But that’s an interesting technique with shallow depth of field.

You can do that is PS if you want. Or get a 1.2 lens! Yikes $ But this is a 4.0 135 mm tilt shift Canon lens rental. I went long for a macro 4k video job this week, the effect actually favors wider focal lengths. What gets me is the “L” lens optics that make the blur so creamy. All I did in PS was keep it high key and reduce the vibrance/saturation. No crop at all. I just got the thing to get what some call specific perspective.

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:32:28pm

re: #298 HappyWarrior

He’s a weasely suckup to the gun addled.

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:32:42pm

re: #291 jaunte

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:32:53pm

re: #283 Unshaken Defiance

I thought to give myself a challenge. Take a mundane scene and set it up to be a more artful (I hope) result. So I thought to isolate a pedestrian crossing a busy street and kick the light to a more evocative tone. Hit or miss?

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Interesting challenge. For me, I’d have to say miss because it’s a bit too pictorialist for my tastes. Compare Group F/64 (especially the Adams photo of an apple tree at the top of the article) for something a bit closer to what I’d like to see done.

Well done though and a bigger key is if it fits what you feel you were trying to do. Aesthetics is always an interesting mess :)

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Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:33:37pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:34:50pm

re: #304 Charles Johnson

Boy, he’s really got a hard-on for you, hasn’t he? How much is the rent on that space in his head?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:35:34pm

Break for humour:

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:36:04pm

re: #304 Charles Johnson

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He’s thought about suing you, but realized he can’t afford yet another ruling against him.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:37:11pm

re: #302 Belafon

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It’s really easy for him to say that shit. He didn’t lose loved ones.

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Brian J.  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:38:23pm

re: #15 lawhawk

Kentucky isn’t going to attract businesses unless they have an educated workforce.

Amazon might build a distribution center, which is manual labor intensive (and requires a handful of educated managers to oversee the team there), but you’re not going to get Amazon to build HQ2 there no matter how much money you throw at them if they can’t get enough qualified technologists.

Screw the schools and you screw your economy.

Just ask Oklahoma and every other state that cuts their education budgets while claiming teachers are overpaid pansies (oh, and while you’re underpaid, here’s a gun because you need to now function as SWAT too).

They don’t care. The Republicans will tell them that teachers are evil because they work for the government and hence sympathize with the liberals, dark-skinned, and Muslims. It makes no sense, but at this point the white people of those states couldn’t follow logic if they saw it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:38:42pm

Hey the Holocaust wasn’t less tragic because some Hews survived. #CruzLogic

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:39:06pm

re: #303 William Lewis

Hey, that’s me, a digital pictorialist. Honestly my lack of film / photo schooling left me unaware of the movement till now. But wow it fits me t a T. T stop? Anyway gonna be an interesting week. Immersion almost.

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:39:45pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:39:57pm

re: #305 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Boy, he’s really got a hard-on for you, hasn’t he? How much is the rent on that space in his head?

$50 a night.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:40:21pm

Sorry all but if over 15 people die in a shooting and you’re praising a weapon, you’re a ghoul.

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Brian J.  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:40:43pm

re: #293 jaunte

The sickness of Ted Cruz is to see Sutherland Springs as the story of a good guy with an AR-15.

Sadly, as long as white Texans remains white Texans, Sutherland Springs was meaningless. It’s just one of those things that happen, like a mild thunderstorm that passes and leaves things no different than before.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:40:58pm

re: #313 BlueSpotinAL

$50 a night.

Wow, boss man’s making pretty good money, then.

/What, you thought he was paying to be up there? There’s too much empty real estate in the Rage Furby’s head

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:41:06pm

re: #311 Unshaken Defiance

Heh. Glad I pointed it out then. It’s a great big world out there with lots of ways to see.

Or as my favorite thought of late has it, “there are many shades of grey in the world and only two of them are black and white.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:41:57pm

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Sorry all but if over 15 people die in a shooting and you’re praising a weapon, you’re a ghoul.

Soul less. Looking at you Ted Nugent.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:43:50pm

re: #318 Unshaken Defiance

Soul less. Looking at you Ted Nugent.

Any discussion of Ted Nugent should always include he was convicted of poaching in both Calif. and Alaska, meaning the NRA is fine with a gun criminal on their board.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:44:05pm

re: #318 Unshaken Defiance

Soul less. Looking at you Ted Nugent.

Cruz in this case. Like I’m glad the guy was there but Cruz is a soulless prick.

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ipsos  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:45:18pm

re: #313 BlueSpotinAL

$50 a night.

And he’ll hold it open for you even if you don’t need it that night?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:45:23pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:47:59pm

Non-comment at Wonkette:

Donald’s final take on Easter - he prefers saviors that don’t let themselves be crucified.

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VegasGolfer  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:50:01pm

humansagainsttedcruz.com

Humans Against Ted Cruz

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:51:00pm

Was at a show a few weeks back. Guy had a Ted Cruz is the Zodiac shirt, had to give props.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:51:26pm

re: #320 HappyWarrior

Cruz in this case. Like I’m glad the guy was there but Cruz is a soulless prick.

I was equating them, awkwardly. The whole GOP is just gone, over the edge, dead to me.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:53:03pm

re: #303 William Lewis

I’m definitely in that school of thought, even though I have had only a handful of photos of what I’d consider to be technically perfect. I find framing the shot to be easy. It’s the timing to get the right light and the image just right with the focus and everything. That’s where I get hung up… and sometimes, it’s just because I’m on vacation and can’t spend hours trying to get the shot - wrong time of day, wrong light, too many people in shot, not enough people in shot, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:56:09pm

re: #326 Unshaken Defiance

I was equating them, awkwardly. The whole GOP is just gone, over the edge, dead to me.

Aha. I see. Agreed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:56:32pm

re: #254 Stanley Sea

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:57:27pm

Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) reported in the Virginian Pilot (Norfolk) as saying he now supports an assault weapons ban (he voted against the last one).

pilotonline.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2018 • 6:59:47pm

re: #330 Anymouse 🌹

Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) reported in the Virginian Pilot (Norfolk) as saying he now supports an assault weapons ban (he voted against the last one).

pilotonline.com

Good. I like Warner but he plays a little too safe sometimes.

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calochortus  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:01:51pm

re: #280 Stanley Sea

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:10:23pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:10:39pm

re: #308 HappyWarrior

It’s really easy for him to say that shit. He didn’t lose loved ones.

And I bet as he said it he had that little Cruz smirk on his face that’s a half laugh because he thinks he is getting one over on liberal gun haters and making him a worthwhile buy for the NRA

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calochortus  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:11:48pm

re: #334 jeffreyw

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:15:50pm

re: #319 Anymouse 🌹

Any discussion of Ted Nugent should always include he was convicted of poaching in both Calif. and Alaska, meaning the NRA is fine with a gun criminal on their board.

That should piss off the real hunters that used to make up a good portion of the NRA.

Should.

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:15:57pm

re: #296 gocart mozart


OK
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Stanley Sea  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:21:10pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Stanley Sea  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:22:36pm

re: #332 calochortus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:24:17pm

re: #340 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:24:42pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:24:56pm

re: #339 gocart mozart

Report up that liar to Twitter non-Safety. We have no state representatives, and none of our three Congressional representatives are named that.

(Smith, Bacon, Fortenberry)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:26:13pm

re: #291 jaunte

You know what, Ted? I survived the Battle of An Loc, even got a medal for it. It was no less a hell-show for that, burned, mutiliated bodies and all. Fuck you with a gnarly pine branch.

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calochortus  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:26:45pm

re: #343 Stanley Sea

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TedStriker  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:28:16pm

re: #339 gocart mozart

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Thing is, there is no 93rd district in Nebraska and no state representatives, only 49 state senators (the state assembly is unicameral).

This is one hell of a Poe gone wrong or some RWNJ pretending to be a vile, wretched (even more than usual these days) GOP elected official.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:29:44pm

re: #347 TedStriker

Thing is, there is no 93rd district in Nebraska and no state representatives, only 49 state senators (the state assembly is unicameral).

This is one hell of a Poe gone wrong or some RWNJ pretending to be a vile, wretched (even more than usual these days) GOP elected official.

We have 93 counties, which is probably where the number came from.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:33:19pm

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