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Scottish Dragon  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:20:59am

I really hope at some point we do, in fact have Nuremberg style trials for this administration (including Huckabee Sanders)…although we are not capable of doing it here. it would have to be at The Hague or some such, since we have allowed our own rule of law to degrade to the point that institutionalized torture and preposterous financial fraud (2001-2008) cannot be even investigated. much less prosecuted.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:27:15am

re: #1 Scottish Dragon

I really hope at some point we do, in fact have Nuremberg style trials for this administration (including Huckabee Sanders)…although we are not capable of doing it here. it would have to be at The Hague or some such, since we have allowed our own rule of law to degrade to the point that institutionalized torture and preposterous financial fraud (2001-2008) cannot be even investigated. much less prosecuted.

In that sense we have become much like Italy. I see a lot of Berlusconi in Trump.

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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:28:16am
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Kragar  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:29:48am
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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:36:00am

May be the only logical course.

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:36:11am

The law crowd has bent waaay the fuck over backwards defending Comey and his public announcement that tanked Hillary.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:39:03am

re: #4 Kragar

Lindsay Graham: Suck it, John McCain. No hard feelings, but you know how conservatism rolls, I have to throw you under a bus for the greater good of my power.

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Kragar  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:49:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:52:50am

re: #8 Kragar

National Guard soldiers Trump sent to border are shoveling manure, changing flat tires

Thirty years from now when you’re sitting by your fireside with your grandson on your knee and he asks, ‘What did you do in the great World War Two?’ You won’t have to cough and say, ‘Well, your granddaddy shoveled shit in Louisiana.’

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Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:57:09am

re: #6 Scottish Dragon

The law crowd has bent waaay the fuck over backwards defending Comey and his public announcement that tanked Hillary.

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I don’t know whether or not the effort to resurrect Comey’s reputation is because of worry that not doing so will negatively affect Mueller’s case, but it’s absolutely ridiculous and ultimately hurts the FBI rather than helping it. He was not defending the FBI’s reputation, he was not balancing scales, or in any way doing right by the agency. He was playing CYA, worried about the future of James Comey in the event that Hillary won and he found himself drug before the High Inquisitor over reports that he’d “sat on” information that might have tipped the election in Donny’s favor.

Worse, he was selective about his violation of the guidelines and procedures, keeping information about the Russia/Trump investigation secret even as he was leaking info to Congressional Republicans that he knew would in turn be leaked to the press. That alone should be enough to ensure that no matter how “right” he was to stand up to Donny, he was a Republican first and he was looking for his “team” over the future or reputation of the FBI.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2018 • 1:04:30am

re: #10 Targetpractice

Comey has successfully muddied the waters in a time when Trump needs as little transparency as possible

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 16, 2018 • 1:17:29am

Sputnik on G6+1…

Trump to Macron at Canada’s G7 Summit: “All Terrorists Are in Paris” - Report

According to the report, the US President got into debates about trade issues and immigration, and went as far as to reproach Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. “Shinzo, you don’t have this problem, but I can send you 25 million Mexicans and you’ll be out of office very soon,” Trump allegedly said Abe.

Attendees were also taken back by what he reportedly told France’s President Emmanuel Macron amid discussions about counter-terrorism and Iran. “You must know about this Emmanuel because all the terrorists are in Paris,” Trump told Macron, according to the WSJ.

The US President also reportedly took aim at European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, who criticized Trump for his tariff policy. He called the top European official a “brutal killer” for the way the European Union treats the US tech giants

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wheat-dogg  Jun 16, 2018 • 1:19:26am

re: #12 Single-handed sailor

Sputnik on G6+1…

Trump to Macron at Canada’s G7 Summit: “All Terrorists Are in Paris” - Report

But according to Trump, they all got along famously, all smiles and kisses.

It’s sad when I can say I trust Sputnik’s report more than Trump’s version.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 16, 2018 • 1:20:56am

Trump is a lying sack of shit. Trust me on this, I’m Canadian.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2018 • 1:24:08am

re: #14 Single-handed sailor

Trump is a lying sack of shit. Trust me on this, I’m Canadian.

He knows that he can say whatever comes into his head and that he will suffer very little in the way of consequences.

I would like to see him testifying before a court and placed in a situation where his words do have direct consequences.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 1:39:44am

One occasionally hears the story of the overly attached girlfriend. She is something of an urban legend. Such a person can become really vicious if she becomes an ex-girlfriend.

Quebec clarinetist awarded $350K after ex-girlfriend sabotages career opportunity (CBC)

Eric Abramovitz was on his way up when his then-girlfriend sabotaged a unique opportunity that could have propelled his career further and faster.

A gifted clarinetist who had been playing since he was seven years old, he won the Canadian Music Competition six times and performed with the Quebec Symphony Orchestra, the National Arts Centre Orchestra and the McGill Symphony Orchestra.

So when Abramovitz, who grew up in Quebec and was studying music at McGill University at the time, was accepted into a prestigious — and highly selective — music program in California in 2014, it could have been the opportunity of a lifetime.

Except he never received his acceptance letter, after his then-girlfriend intercepted and then deleted the email telling him he’d gotten in.

Now, an Ontario Superior Court judge has awarded Abramovitz $350,000 in damages after it found that his former partner, Jennifer Lee, had cost him a “unique opportunity” through her interference in his career as a professional musician.

(more)

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 16, 2018 • 1:55:44am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 2:38:59am

re: #17 Single-handed sailor

Okay if we’re going to her videos (she is a hoot), here is the video which started it all … the very first Overly Attached Girlfriend video (parodying “Boyfriend” by Justin Bieber, 3:01 with over nineteen million views)

JB Fanvideo

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freetoken  Jun 16, 2018 • 2:41:52am

Y’all may be pleased to learn that our younger friends to the north are leading the way worldwide in becoming less religious:

The Age Gap in Religion Around the World

Image: PF.06.13.18_religiouscommitment-00-01-.png

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 16, 2018 • 2:42:00am

So, a short-haired dog story. It’s kinda like a shaggy dog story but shorter…

When we got Harvey as a puppy he ate soft puppy chow and he had a hard time with the transition to dry kibble so we made a game of it. We threw the kibble out across the floor and he hunted down the pieces to our praise, and ate them. Flash forward 6 years, I put his food down for him. He has rituals that he must follow, I don’t know why, it’s a dog thing. First I must sit down so he can come over and thank me for his dinner. He has an innate ‘Emily Post’ sense of etiquette. He then runs to his bowl and grabs a mouthful of kibble and runs into the center of the room and flings his mouthful of food out across the carpet just so he can hunt them down like he learned as a puppy. Once he’s done that a couple times he can chow down.

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freetoken  Jun 16, 2018 • 2:44:18am

There is, however, a very strong relationship between religiosity and population growth:

Image: PF.06.13.18_religiouscommitment-00-03-.png

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Teukka  Jun 16, 2018 • 2:54:51am

re: #17 Single-handed sailor

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re: #18 Anymouse 🌹

Okay if we’re going to her videos (she is a hoot), here is the video which started it all … the very first Overly Attached Girlfriend video (parodying “Boyfriend” by Justin Bieber, 3:01 with over nineteen million views)

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My OAG favorite…

Will You Be My Valentine?

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freetoken  Jun 16, 2018 • 3:28:15am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 16, 2018 • 3:36:11am

Today’s Quartz Obsession is about the stadium wave, and if you scroll down you will see a snippet of Trump and Bill O’Reilly (I think) not entirely getting it.

qz.com

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wheat-dogg  Jun 16, 2018 • 3:37:11am

re: #22 Teukka

She definitely has the crazy eyes look nailed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 3:37:31am

re: #22 Teukka

My OAG favorite…

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My favourite (2:20):

Make Him a Sandwich - Overly Attached Girlfriend

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2018 • 3:40:46am

re: #25 wheat-dogg

She definitely has the crazy eyes look nailed.

Hot-Crazy Scale

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freetoken  Jun 16, 2018 • 3:40:46am

Don’t know how many of you have seen the long-running show Grand Designs, but its Australian version presents some pretty wacky ideas.

I’m constantly reminded around here about how well built the pre-WWII houses are compared to the houses from the 1970’s onward.

And the past couple of decades of San Diego area housing has really pushed the faux-item boundary, with all sorts of cheap and useless appellations to houses to give the impression of things-that-used-to-be-meaningful but today are just pretentious imitations.

There is much to be said about the badness of the Madison-Ave driven society, where advertising tricks based on feeding egos have overtaken other ideals, but nowhere is there more long term damage than to the built environment post WWII.

The McMansion Hell blog is so poignant exactly because we all recognize the foolishness of American wanna-be-rich vanity. It’s all so obvious, yet countless numbers of our fellow Americans in the real estate business keep going overboard with pushing bad products, bad designs, bad economics (irresponsible loans, etc.)

This is the America that brought about Trump.

I keep repeating myself - Trump is the symptom, not the cause.

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freetoken  Jun 16, 2018 • 3:45:10am

Getting back to Grand Designs and showcase construction: I am struck about how the looks of a property have been elevated over all other aesthetics.

It is so rare to be presented a design and construction about how a house:
1) sounds;
2) feels;
3) smells.

All that matters is looks.

When I watch these shows I wonder how many times I would stub my toes, hit my shin, bump my head, or slip on a marble floor (onto which a bathtub has been placed. for example.)

When these showcases are presented at the end of the show, fully furnished, I see stereo speakers misplaced, television sets in awkward viewing positions, landscapes totally ignored (or worse, destroyed in the process of building someone’s vanity project.)

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wheat-dogg  Jun 16, 2018 • 3:46:31am

re: #28 freetoken

Trump is representative of the faux cultivé . Just take a look at the way he decorates his homes. He fits right in with the McMansion spirit, but with a bigger budget to fuck things up with.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 3:47:58am

Well, it’s 4:45 and the sun is coming up. Time for me to hit the rack.

A sting of OAG videos is definitely one of the stranger things I’ve seen in my time here.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 16, 2018 • 3:49:42am

re: #29 freetoken

Getting back to Grand Designs and showcase construction: I am struck about how the looks of a property have been elevated over all other aesthetics.

It is so rare to be presented a design and construction about how a house:
1) sounds;
2) feels;
3) smells.

All that matters is looks.

When I watch these shows I wonder how many times I would stub my toes, hit my shin, bump my head, or slip on a marble floor (onto which a bathtub has been placed. for example.)

When these showcases are presented at the end of the show, fully furnished, I see stereo speakers misplaced, television sets in awkward viewing positions, landscapes totally ignored (or worse, destroyed in the process of building someone’s vanity project.)

The project time for these remakes is completely unrealistic. Some are supposed to be 48-hour makeovers, while others are supposed to be done within a week. What real-world home improvement project has such crazy deadlines?

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freetoken  Jun 16, 2018 • 4:05:18am

re: #32 wheat-dogg

Most of US television shows aimed at the “home” are more about people watching and fantasizing rather than actually doing, which is why so few of these shows discuss techniques in details.

The quick-flip mentality goes with the cheap-fix time-frame.

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Danack  Jun 16, 2018 • 4:07:47am

So, what happened to Michael Cohen’s court case yesterday?

Wasn’t there a deadline of yesterday for filing privilege claims against the documents seized? There doesn’t seem to be any news at all other than Mr Cohen communicating through friends that he would very much like a plea deal.

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The Major  Jun 16, 2018 • 4:49:04am

For those of us who are into classical music, we lost another great conductor: Gennady Rozhdestvensky.

With the USSR Ministry of Culture Symphony Orchestra he recorded all the symphonies of Dmitri Shostakovich, Alexander Glazunov, Anton Bruckner, Alfred Schnittke, and Arthur Honegger. He also performed all the symphonies of Ralph Vaughan Williams in Leningrad in the late 1980s. Those have been released, by the Melodiya label, in a complete CD box set in April 2014.

He conducted many of the world’s greatest orchestras, including the Berlin Philharmonic, the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, the Boston Symphony Orchestra, the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, the Cleveland Orchestra, the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra, and the London Symphony Orchestra.

Shostakovich: Symphony #11 in G Minor, Op. 103 - I Adagio “The Palace Square”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 16, 2018 • 4:50:26am

Meanwhile, Chinese media are openly mocking Trump.

Chinese media have mocked US President Donald Trump over plans to impose 25% tariffs on $50bn worth of Chinese goods, saying “wise men build bridges but fools build walls”.

Mr Trump announced the tariffs on Friday, accusing Beijing of intellectual copyright theft.

China retaliated, saying it would impose an additional 25% tariff on 659 US goods worth $50bn.

Stock markets fell after the announcements amid fear of a trade war.

The US had earlier warned that it will impose even more tariffs should China retaliate.

bbc.com

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 16, 2018 • 4:53:59am

Cheetolini has doubled down on his claim to have talked to parents Korean War MIAs during the campaign.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 16, 2018 • 4:56:41am

re: #37 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Cheetolini has doubled down on his claim to have talked to parents Korean War MIAs during the campaign.

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LOL that fuck simply cannot admit he’s wrong, can he?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 16, 2018 • 5:05:03am

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

LOL that fuck simply cannot admit he’s wrong, can he?

No. No, he can’t. It’s a narcissistic trait.

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jeffreyw  Jun 16, 2018 • 5:07:34am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 16, 2018 • 5:18:50am

re: #41 Amory Blaine

The Stanford Prison Experiment is based on lies. Hear them for yourself.

Isn’t this just a variation on the Milgram study, mentioned downstairs? It doesn’t take much for anyone to harm others; all you need is a respected authority figure guiding you, and you too can become a Nazi overnight.

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dangerman  Jun 16, 2018 • 5:46:33am

Trump Jr.:.

I don’t think any proper lawyer would say, ‘Hey, you should go do it,’ because it’s not about collusion anymore. It’s about, ‘Can we get him to say something that may be interpreted as somewhat off or inaccurate, and after 50,000 questions, maybe you make a mistake, and that’s how we get you, and that’s ridiculous

A woman did it
In public
For 11 hours

Isn’t dad as smart and as strong?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 5:51:45am

re: #43 dangerman

Trump Jr.:.

A woman did it
In public
For 11 hours

Isn’t dad as smart and as strong?

They’re all about law and order unless they’re the ones the subject of criminal investigations.

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2018 • 5:52:40am

re: #43 dangerman

Someone lacks the stamina…. could it be Trump?

Yes…. Yes he does.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 16, 2018 • 6:08:11am

Morning Lizardim on a thunderstorming Saturday. The last round of storms took out the big ash tree in my front yard; it gave me a sad, and that was before the bill to have it removed. The rest of my trees should be good for a while, as the ash was splitting in half anyway and was going to be removed soon. How go things among the lizardfolk on this sleepy rainy hot and humid weekend day?

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dangerman  Jun 16, 2018 • 6:10:05am

re: #10 Targetpractice

Worse, he was selective about his violation of the guidelines and procedures, .

In a nutshell
No matter rhow much he thought he was doing “the right thing”

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dangerman  Jun 16, 2018 • 6:12:49am

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹

One occasionally hears the story of the overly attached girlfriend. She is something of an urban legend. Such a person can become really vicious if she becomes an ex-girlfriend.

Quebec clarinetist awarded $350K after ex-girlfriend sabotages career opportunity (CBC)

(more)

Crazy ex girlfriend

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 6:32:47am

re: #43 dangerman

Trump Jr.:.

A woman did it
In public
For 11 hours

Isn’t dad as smart and as strong?

Morning!

Note to Donny Jr. Dumbnuts,

A proper president wouldn’t even have a special investigator spending over a year preparing to get your dumbshit father to testify.

A proper president wouldn’t need all the lawyers to keep him from perjuring himself.

Now run along…you too may need some lawyers to keep your butt on the streets.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2018 • 6:33:58am

re: #37 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Cheetolini has doubled down on his claim to have talked to parents Korean War MIAs during the campaign.

he cannot even think his lies through…all he had to do was to say “families of Korean War veterans” and his lie would have been at least plausible

but he will suffer NO CONSEQUENCES for this and continue in this vein

until he is voted out of/expelled from office

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sagehen  Jun 16, 2018 • 6:36:22am

re: #47 dangerman

In a nutshell
No matter rhow much he thought he was doing “the right thing”

Rachel did a pretty thorough analysis on her show; basically, he was overly worried about how Republicans/Conservatives might criticize him/the agency if he made one choice, but not the slightest bit worried about how Democrats/Liberals might criticize him/the agency if he made the other choice.

In other words, working the refs. Just like they’ve done with the media for 30 years.

With no awareness AT ALL that he’s turning federal law enforcement into yet one more purely partisan endeavor.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2018 • 6:42:10am

re: #20 Single-handed sailor

So, a short-haired dog story. It’s kinda like a shaggy dog story but shorter…

When we got Harvey as a puppy he ate soft puppy chow and he had a hard time with the transition to dry kibble so we made a game of it. We threw the kibble out across the floor and he hunted down the pieces to our praise, and ate them. Flash forward 6 years, I put his food down for him. He has rituals that he must follow, I don’t know why, it’s a dog thing. First I must sit down so he can come over and thank me for his dinner. He has an innate ‘Emily Post’ sense of etiquette. He then runs to his bowl and grabs a mouthful of kibble and runs into the center of the room and flings his mouthful of food out across the carpet just so he can hunt them down like he learned as a puppy. Once he’s done that a couple times he can chow down.

That’s so cute!!

My dog has to kill his food before he eats. While I’m putting kibble in a bowl, he must rip a toy to shreds. It’s like he feels he feels he doesn’t deserve to eat unless he kills his food.

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sagehen  Jun 16, 2018 • 6:45:14am
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Belafon  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:01:28am

re: #4 Kragar

Such language, Graham. I guess it’s ok since you’re a white male.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:04:47am

re: #52 MsJ

That’s sounds like it could get a a tad expensive. Unless he his reusing killing his toys.

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:07:03am

… [Taylor] Wilson, a Missouri man who lives with his parents, boarded a cross-country Amtrak train in October with a backpack full of weapons and a plan to run the train off the tracks. While passing through rural Nebraska, Wilson allegedly pulled the train’s emergency brake, leaving it stranded on the tracks at 2 a.m.

While Amtrak staff swept the train, Wilson allegedly burst into the control room and took a place in the engineer’s seat, where a staffer found him “playing with the controls.”

“What are you going to do, shoot me?” Wilson allegedly asked the Amtrak staff who confronted him. “I’m the conductor, bitch.”

Amtrak staff pinned Wilson to the floor, while Wilson reached for the waistband of his pants, according to the criminal complaint. Police took more than an hour to respond to the rural scene. When deputies searched Wilson, he attempted to claim a bulge in his pocket was “my dick,” according to a criminal complaint. The bulge was actually one of two fully loaded guns Wilson was carrying on him, one of which was in the waistband he’d allegedly attempted to reach during the struggle…

One of Wilson’s associates told investigators that Wilson had been acting strangely since at least June, after joining an “‘alt right’ Neo-Nazi group that he had found researching white supremacy forums online,” according to the criminal complaint. The associate told police that Wilson had expressed an interest in “killing black people” and had claimed to have been part of a group that pasted “Whites Only” signs in local businesses.

In August 2017, Wilson had marched at Unite the Right, a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Wilson was also involved in a road rage incident in May 2016, during which he allegedly pulled a gun on a black woman, according to the criminal complaint…

h/t Balloon Juice

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:08:57am

re: #56 Belafon

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h/t Balloon Juice

One of Trump’s fine people.

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:17:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:20:34am

re: #58 jaunte

‘You’re LYING to My FACE’: Host Don Lemon Had ENOUGH of Trump’s LapDog Steve Cortes Defending LIES:

Forget the lapdogs, people need to start saying that to Trump in person.

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:26:40am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Forget the lapdogs, people need to start saying that to Trump in person.

A reporter yesterday asked Trump why he lies so much. Trump didn’t answer.

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:28:15am

Thread:

I was going to copy it, but it’s up to 26 entries.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:28:28am

re: #58 jaunte

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Steve Cortes has one of those punchable faces that gets more punchable as he lies and lies.

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:28:42am

Van Jones points out correctly that Cortes’ tactic of jumping directly from changing the policy of separating families to “open borders” is demagoguery.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:29:24am

re: #61 Belafon

Thread:

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I was going to copy it, but it’s up to 26 entries.

I’m pleasantly surprised that Franklin Graham has criticized it but I wonder if it’ll make him stop blindly supporting Trump. I’m skeptical. I’m glad to see so many doing this though.

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JordanRules  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:29:32am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:30:57am

re: #65 JordanRules

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I love a good old fashioned trolling.

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JordanRules  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:33:33am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:37:21am

re: #67 JordanRules

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The Parkland kids are so great. They’ve turned a tragedy into a rallying point.

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JordanRules  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:37:40am
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JordanRules  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:38:35am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

I love a good old fashioned trolling.

Those tiny hands are killing me!! ROFL

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:40:00am

re: #70 JordanRules

Those tiny hands are killing me!! ROFL

I know, right?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:43:33am

re: #51 sagehen

Rachel did a pretty thorough analysis on her show; basically, he was overly worried about how Republicans/Conservatives might criticize him/the agency if he made one choice, but not the slightest bit worried about how Democrats/Liberals might criticize him/the agency if he made the other choice.

In other words, working the refs. Just like they’ve done with the media for 30 years.

With no awareness AT ALL that he’s turning federal law enforcement into yet one more purely partisan endeavor.

In an earlier thread, someone posted that Nunes said an FBI agent told him about the Weiner laptop in September 2016. I think there were people in the FBI who were planning to leak this right before the election and Comey mistakenly believed it was better for it to come from him; otherwise the agents would really undermine the credibility of the FBI.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:44:20am

I think it’s hilarious how Law and Order and just follow the law types get concerned when it’s their person in trouble. Manafort was in fact getting time to spend with his family until he decided to obstruct the investigation. There are unfortunately plenty of people, none who the right gives two fucks about who are still in jails without being so much as charged with crimes.. The right’s sickness is who they want us to feel sorry for. A friend was telling me that some hack form the Heritage Foundation wanted us to feel empathy for Trump because he became President so unprepared for the job. No one forced Trump to run for the highest office in the land. Now let’s look at the people who the right never feels bad for;- families fleeing war zones or gangland nightmares. They feel sorry for anti-gay business owners who flaunt that they discriminate against getting called out but never the LGBT parent who fears telling their parent their sexual or gender identity lest they be disowned or sent to a reparative therapy center.

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William Lewis  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:45:50am

Argh. Answering like crazy in the wrong thread…

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:55:47am

re: #68 HappyWarrior

The Parkland kids are so great. They’ve turned a tragedy into a rallying point.

I think a lot of us failed at that, wanting to do what it takes to fix things.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:58:02am

re: #75 Belafon

I think a lot of us failed at that, wanting to do what it takes to fix things.

I do too. They have no fear of the gun lobby. And I think that’s why the NRA is so vicious to them. They know that David, Emma, Cameron, and the others have survived far worse than NRA TV calling them actors or mouthpieces.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:02:42am

re: #54 Belafon

Such language, Graham. I guess it’s ok since you’re a white male.

He really has sold his sole for some Trump.

I never trusted Graham, but at least he tried to sell himself as a mature moderate.

Now, he’s a raging asshole like Trump.

Imma thinking he is compromised. He hasn’t been the old Lindsey since Trump gave out his phone number.

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sagehen  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:03:26am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

A friend was telling me that some hack form the Heritage Foundation wanted us to feel empathy for Trump because he became President so unprepared for the job.

I seem to remember unlimited whining about Obama’s “insufficient” preparation for the job.

A constitutional law professor, 8 years in a state legislature, 4 years as senator… “the presidency is no place for on-the-job training!!” said the half-term governor of a state with smaller population than most congressional districts. They thought her being mayor of her state’s 4th largest city was “sufficient” — a mayor who had to hire a city manager because she couldn’t do it. A city with fewer constituents, fewer staff (and smaller, simpler budget) than the head of the tenants’ association at my home manages as a part-time volunteer gig.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:08:16am

re: #78 sagehen

I seem to remember unlimited whining about Obama’s “insufficient” preparation for the job.

A constitutional law professor, 8 years in a state legislature, 4 years as senator… “the presidency is no place for on-the-job training!!” said the half-term governor of a state with smaller population than most congressional districts. They thought her being mayor of her state’s 4th largest city was “sufficient” — a mayor who had to hire a city manager because she couldn’t do it. A city with fewer constituents (and smaller, simpler budget) than the head of the tenants’ association at my home manages as a part-time volunteer gig.

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I still remember Fiorina or Meg Whitman saying that her executive experience made her more qualified than not just Obama but McCain and Biden too. You’re right about Wasilla. It was smaller than my hometown is. I always said Re: Biden and Palin, Biden entered public life while my Dad’s father was still in public life and Palin first got elected statewide when I started voting. And you’re right about the sneers about the “community organizer” that ignored his time in both the Illinois and then US Senate. Trump meanwhile had no experience at all in government nor demonstrated an understanding of it. I have zero empathy for him. I wouldn’t expect people to feel sorry for me if somehow I got a job as a trauma surgeon and failed miserably. So it’s clear I’m not a doctor and I don’t even possess a science degree.

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dangerman  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:09:48am

re: #70 JordanRules

Those tiny hands are killing me!! ROFL

i didnt even see em

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dangerman  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:13:28am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

…A friend was telling me that some hack form the Heritage Foundation wanted us to feel empathy for Trump because he became President so unprepared for the job. No one forced Trump to run for the highest office in the land….

whether that is true or not, its been 500+ days and he’s demonstrated zero effort that he is even trying to get better at the job

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:19:21am

I’ve gotten up to 13 bullet points…

And that’s just what happened this week.

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JordanRules  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:20:33am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:21:29am

re: #81 dangerman

whether that is true or not, its been 500+ days and he’s demonstrated zero effort that he is even trying to get better at the job

Exactly. He’s made no fucking effort. Maybe if he didn’t go to his safe space at Mar a Lago, maybe if he learned to take criticism like an adult but nope.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:23:16am

re: #82 lawhawk

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I’ve gotten up to 13 bullet points…

And that’s just what happened this week.

At this rate, your “occasional hobby” is going to become a full-time job. That’s the magnitude of the deep shit that these guys are finding themselves in. It’s like stepping into a river, looking upstream, and seeing a flash flood roaring around the bend…

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Dave In Austin  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:25:17am

Would you DanceParty if it died??

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:38:32am

re: #60 Belafon

A reporter yesterday asked Trump why he lies so much. Trump didn’t answer.

I’m hoping asking Trump directly about lying and asking his lackeys why he lies becomes a thing.

Just like “her emails” was just about all the media could say about Hillary all during the election process, they can easily jump on the bandwagon of “Trump lies.”

I know our media often sucks at how they go about framing their questions…one thing they will do is gang up unrelentingly on a theme and ride it hard.

Let’s hope this week is the beginning of the Trump Lies story.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:41:27am

re: #62 HappyWarrior

Steve Cortes has one of those punchable faces that gets more punchable as he lies and lies.

But he has the name Cortes…so that makes him an authority of “Mexicans*” right?

* Mexicans…anyone in the world that lives below Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California. And that includes Puerto Rico even if it is an U.S. territory.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:41:44am

WTH LA Times

Trump voices admiration and envy of Kim Jong Un, underscoring his respect for autocrats

Autocrat might be how one describes a fer less violent dictatorship. It sure wildly understates the violence and criminality that comes from the NK regime.

NK’s reputation is so bad…
Yesterday when I cashed a check at a bank, I asked for large bills as I was just going to deposit elsewhere. The bills did not want to pass through the counting machine. The thing just hung up on each bill. So I smile at the teller and manager then I ask-“Are those the new North Korean release?” The manager gasped a little then laughed out loud.

Teller asks why I don’t just deposit the check, and I remind them how vulnerable the SWIFT system is, and it runs at a snails pace compared to ATM transactions.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:42:31am

re: #53 sagehen

I LOVELOVELOVE the songs on that show.

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Video

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I don’t know that show, but the exaggerated 80s fashion in that video is great.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:42:43am

re: #65 JordanRules

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Ha…Columbus folks ripping on Trump.

Absolutely love the little doll hands.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:54:29am

re: #91 ObserverArt

Ha…Columbus folks ripping on Trump.

Absolutely love the little doll hands.

Some video of Columbus protests inside the Pence address and outside at the Rainbow Dance Party.

Hey, Mike Pence…Columbus didn’t vote for Trump. Go fuck yourself.

Edit…fixed video embed…see below

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 8:57:31am
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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:01:26am

Damn video above won’t play. WTF?

Hmmm…let’s try it now.

Iframe

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:07:53am

re: #93 jaunte

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Because he keeps committing crimes, Al.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:10:53am

re: #93 jaunte

[Embedded content]

…Does Derpowitz even know how the criminal justice system works? Accused criminals are held pending trial if they’re a flight risk or a risk for committing additional crimes in the interim. That’s how the bail process is supposed to work. You pay a fine, you get to go free until your trial, but if you fuck up, they revoke your bail and you’re back in the can. And then they’re really not nice because they tend to frown on that.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:13:53am

re: #96 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

…Does Derpowitz even know how the criminal justice system works? Accused criminals are held pending trial if they’re a flight risk or a risk for committing additional crimes in the interim. That’s how the bail process is supposed to work. You pay a fine, you get to go free until your trial, but if you fuck up, they revoke your bail and you’re back in the can. And then they’re really not nice because they tend to frown on that.

I guess he forgets that OJ was held until he was found not guilty…and Dersh was part of the defense team.

I guess he is just following all the Trumpers by lying.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:15:02am

re: #96 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He knows this stuff perfectly well. 100 % PT Barnum moment here. Gonna fool those Trump people all the time.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:15:36am

re: #97 ObserverArt

I guess he forgets that OJ was held until he was found not guilty…and Dersh was part of the defense team.

I guess he is just following all the Trumpers by lying.

Ah, that’s right. So in other words, he does know, he’s just bullshitting because he wants to look good in the Trump economy. Maybe angling for a WH lawyer job? /half

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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:16:50am

Man, Dersh is really thirsty for a Trump lawyerin’ gig.

Both he and Ghouliani know better. They know the law. And they know why Manafort is behind bars.

Yet they lie with creepy smiles on their faces, knowing that they’re getting over on a lot of ignorant people.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:19:24am

re: #100 makeitstop

Man, Dersh is really thirsty for a Trump lawyerin’ gig.

Both he and Ghouliani know better. They know the law. And they know why Manafort is behind bars.

Yet they lie with creepy smiles on their faces, knowing that they’re getting over on a lot of ignorant people.

They should have to put up a little onscreen notice: This is a commercial for Alan Dershowitz Law Services. Call 1-800-###-####

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Dave In Austin  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:21:15am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:21:51am

re: #93 jaunte

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So he says on the network that always justifies Guantanamo Bay. The network that uses anything someone did wrong in life to justify being shot while unarmed. The network that says nothing about civil forfeiture. The network that proclaims HRC guilty of crimes without any charges filed against her. That’s rich Alan.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:22:53am

re: #100 makeitstop

Man, Dersh is really thirsty for a Trump lawyerin’ gig.

Both he and Ghouliani know better. They know the law. And they know why Manafort is behind bars.

Yet they lie with creepy smiles on their faces, knowing that they’re getting over on a lot of ignorant people.

They know the law. They also know that the average Trump supporter doesn’t know reasonable doubt from preponderance of the evidence.

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scottslemmons  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:24:05am

re: #96 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

…Does Derpowitz even know how the criminal justice system works? Accused criminals are held pending trial if they’re a flight risk or a risk for committing additional crimes in the interim. That’s how the bail process is supposed to work. You pay a fine, you get to go free until your trial, but if you fuck up, they revoke your bail and you’re back in the can. And then they’re really not nice because they tend to frown on that.

He knows how it works, but he works for people who want to make crime legal for Republicans and rich people. Imprisonment is for brown people, you big silly!

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A Cranky One  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:25:28am

re: #102 Dave In Austin

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It’s Lizardgate!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:27:47am

In wingnut America, Hillary is guilty because a meme I saw says she’s guilty and Trump and his cronies are innocent even though Mueller has gotten pleas and witnesses. I just don’t know how so many people even people who may not be the smartest take so many leaps of faith on reason. Then again, this is what happens when you’ve had people like Hannity poisoning minds for years now.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:29:21am

Heh.

From Columbus Pence Dance Party yesterday.

Mike Pence’s Closet
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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:31:07am

re: #108 ObserverArt

Heh.

From Columbus Pence Dance Party yesterday.

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We support our VP doing what exactly.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:32:35am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Excellent question. What does he do? /half

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:32:58am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

We support our VP doing what exactly.

Being creepy and hateful.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:34:40am

re: #110 PhillyPretzel

Excellent question. What does he do? /half

I guess smiling like a toadie while Trump does everything he can to disgrace our country.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:34:56am

re: #111 ObserverArt

Being creepy and hateful.

Shit, he could do that for free and not on our dime lol.

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scottslemmons  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:36:34am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

We support our VP doing what exactly.

Doing Nazi shit to brown people and gays, mostly.

I have to keep reminding myself these people may look nice, but they’d burn their neighbors alive if the right talk show host told them to.

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:37:06am
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:38:16am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

We support our VP doing what exactly.

Putting his water bottle on the floor right after Trump does.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:38:52am

re: #114 scottslemmons

Doing Nazi shit to brown people and gays, mostly.

I have to keep reminding myself these people may look nice, but they’d burn their neighbors alive if the right talk show host told them to.

Over the winter, I read a great book about two German brothers over the course of 1900-45. You know going in that one brother will become part of the NSDAP apparatus and one will be part of the resistance but you don’t learn until the story hits the 1920’s. Both of course are WWI veterans.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:38:54am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

We support our VP doing what exactly.

Calling his wife “mother.”

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A Cranky One  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:39:36am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

We support our VP doing what exactly.

Putting his water bottle on the floor for no reason after his master does so.

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A Cranky One  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:40:58am

re: #116 Ace Rothstein

re: #119 A Cranky One

Putting his water bottle on the floor for no reason after his master does so.

It’s lizard mind-meld….

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:41:49am

Damnit all lol. You know sometimes I speak rhetorically but touche :). Anyhow i gotta get rid for a graduation party for a family member. Hasta.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:42:24am

re: #120 A Cranky One

It’s lizard mind-meld….

Why is everyone ganging up on Mike Pence???

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:42:29am

re: #120 A Cranky One

It’s lizard mind-meld….

Kneel before Zod.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:42:46am

re: #122 ObserverArt

Why is everyone ganging up on Mike Pence???

Why does a dog lick his balls?

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:45:42am

An organization led for years by a child abuser is worried that Trump will tarnish their moral standing.

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JordanRules  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:46:57am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:47:56am

re: #126 JordanRules

When is DT joining him?

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JordanRules  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:48:55am
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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:49:43am

Coattails of lead.

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JordanRules  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:51:08am

Damnet!!!

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HypnoToad  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:51:37am

re: #128 JordanRules

We’re the new dinosaurs. Whence cometh the asteroid?

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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:52:27am

This came up on my phone and I haven’t seen it here today - ‘Hey, it’s that guy who’s going to jail!’

Cohen successfully deflected questions from the press about if he was going to cooperate with prosecutors, avoiding them without a glance.

A pair of New Yorkers, though, were not so easy to ignore.

“Good luck, Mr. Cohen,” one guy shouted out to Cohen, prompting Cohen to thank him.

Then another guy shouted this: “Hey! It’s that guy that’s going to jail.”

“Yeah,” Cohen said, with a finger point.

“Awesome, way to go bud,” the guy replied.

Video at link. I love New York.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:55:53am

re: #130 JordanRules

Damnet!!!

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Probable Trump Take: “Putin is a tough leader. His people are tough for him. I want my people to be tough too.”

Reporter: “Mr. Trump, are you asking for people to beat up LBGT people here in America?”

Probable Trump: “Both sides do it. There are good people on both sides.”

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plansbandc  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:56:03am

re: #61 Belafon

This gives me some hope. Thank you for posting that thread.

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plansbandc  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:58:27am

re: #65 JordanRules

OMG the tiny hand. HAHAHA!

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sagehen  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:00:55am

re: #131 HypnoToad

We’re the new dinosaurs. Whence cometh the asteroid?

Modern Lovers ‘Live’ (1977) 5. I’m A Little Dinosaur

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:01:48am
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Ace-o-aces  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:02:24am

Looks like I caught someones attention:

It’s behind the NYT paywall, of course. I’d appreciate if someone could post a few excerpts.

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:02:33am

Bebest numbers.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:07:01am

re: #137 jaunte

Only haters and losers know how punctuation works and when to use “country’s” and “countries”.

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:07:41am

re: #138 Ace-o-aces

“After 25 years as the editorial cartoonist for The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, I was fired on Thursday.
I blame Donald Trump.
Well, sort of.
I should’ve seen it coming. When I had lunch with my new boss a few months ago, he informed me that the paper’s publisher believed that the editorial cartoonist was akin to an editorial writer, and that his views should reflect the philosophy of the newspaper.
That was a new one to me.
I was trained in a tradition in which editorial cartoonists are the live wires of a publication — as one former colleague put it, the “constant irritant.” Our job is to provoke readers in a way words alone can’t. Cartoonists are not illustrators for a publisher’s politics.”

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:08:07am

“…After so many years of punch lines and caricatures, skewering mayors and mullahs, the new regime at The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette decided that The Donald trumped satire when it came to its editorial pages.
This has been my dream job. It makes the experience of buying a coffee or checking out at a grocery store a thrill. I go to pay and the person looks at my credit card, sees my name, asks me if I’m the Rob Rogers and then tells me about a particular cartoon he or she loved. The outpouring of support I have received in recent days from the people of this city, including its mayor, has been overwhelming and uplifting.
The paper may have taken an eraser to my cartoons. But I plan to be at my drawing table every day of this presidency.”

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Winston_Smith  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:08:59am

re: #139 jaunte

Bebest numbers.

Why isn’t he playing golf? Rainy day?

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:10:28am

re: #140 Skip Intro

I must be an ace at being a “loser” and a “hater.” I majored in English and DT’s use of the English language is on a par with murdering the language. I really loved it when the retired teacher sent back the letter with all of those corrections.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:12:47am

So does this mean that he goes on a yuge “Rah Rah” campaign with 100 small venues for more feel good deflection?

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:18:09am

re: #143 Skip Intro

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:20:07am

In response to this article, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders wrote:

“The time in the morning is a mix of residence time and Oval Office time but he always has calls with staff, Hill members, cabinet members and foreign leaders during this time. The President is one of the hardest workers I’ve ever seen and puts in long hours and long days nearly every day of the week all year long. It has been noted by reporters many times that they wish he would slow down because they sometimes have trouble keeping up with him.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:20:54am

re: #147 jaunte

If they’re having trouble keeping up with Fuckface von Clownstick, they may want to see a doctor.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:21:33am

re: #146 jaunte

Ah, good. What’s he up to, around 200 days of playing golf so far?

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Winston_Smith  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:21:54am

re: #145 Dave In Austin

So does this mean that he goes on a yuge “Rah Rah” campaign with 100 small venues for more feel good deflection?

Next one is June 20.

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:22:38am

re: #149 Skip Intro

Not sure on days, but last cost number I read was $67 million.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:23:01am

re: #149 Skip Intro

Ah, good. What’s he up to, around 200 days of playing golf so far?

Obama played golf. Trump is on the golf course ‘presidentin’ “

Big-le’ difference!

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:23:16am
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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:23:42am

re: #147 jaunte

In response to this article, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders wrote:

“Lie lie lie, lie lie lie lie. Lie, lie, lie, lie lie lie. Lie lie, lie lie lie, lie. Lie.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:24:26am

re: #151 jaunte

Not sure on days, but last cost number I read was $67 million.

Yeah, but that’s somebody else’s money, so who cares?

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JordanRules  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:25:14am

!!!!!!!!!

Along with Roseanne, Trump, Stewart etc it infuriates me when folks act like we all don’t know already. It’s playing in the 1st quarter when the game is in the 4th. You can’t fight like that. It’s also gaslighting, even by many on the good side.

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:26:57am
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JordanRules  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:27:34am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:31:28am

re: #130 JordanRules

Damnet!!!

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Like the gay Canadian couple, you shouldn’t visit Gilead again until you feel welcome.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:34:26am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:40:13am
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Winston_Smith  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:41:26am

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:46:48am

Are we supposed to change the practice Susan Hennessy?

I thought the reason judges put people in jail prior to trail is for protection of the public or of the trial as is the case with Manafort.

He proved he could not be trusted to not mess with the trial due to witness tampering.

What, I wonder, does The Great Dershowitz do to prevent Manafort from continuing to commit further crime?

Trust him Alan?

As I mentioned earlier. Dersh was on the OJ team. They held OJ from the time they took him from the Bronco until they released him after The Verdict™.

They did that to protect the people, even Dersh.

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dangerman  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:48:23am

re: #99 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ah, that’s right. So in other words, he does know, he’s just bullshitting because he wants to look good in the Trump economy. Maybe angling for a WH lawyer job? /half

“Are you really this ignorant or deliberately lying?”

There is no third way

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:54:20am

re: #164 dangerman

“Are you really this ignorant or deliberately lying?”

There is no third way

Are you terminally stupid or terminally evil?

I call it the Trump Paradox: There exists a crossover point between stupidity and evil such that it is impossible to distinguish between them.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:56:46am

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Danack  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:04:27am

click for thread.

The trouble with the New York FBI office seems to be getting less attention than it should be.

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:06:15am
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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:07:54am

re: #167 Danack

a “deep and visceral hatred of Secretary Clinton” by a cadre of senior NY FBI agents

Rudy’s crew. That’s why he was so smirky on Fox before the election.

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:09:19am

This is the first POTUS in history owned by Russia.

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The Major  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:17:17am

re: #160 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:19:14am

re: #170 jaunte

This is the first POTUS in history owned by Russia.

Kinda like when I sell a bike, even when it’s paid in full, I just wish they’d take it home.

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The Major  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:27:47am

re: #165 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I call it the Trump Paradox: There exists a crossover point between stupidity and evil such that it is impossible to distinguish between them

Shades of Babylon 5, when Londo makes one of his more famous quotes…

Arrogance and Stupidity

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Winston_Smith  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:43:07am

...

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:55:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:24:46pm

re: #108 ObserverArt

Heh.

From Columbus Pence Dance Party yesterday.

[Embedded content]

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:42:31pm

re: #175 Single-handed sailor

“A golf course in Dubai” is the new catchphrase for wasting fresh water.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:45:13pm

re: #94 ObserverArt

Damn video above won’t play. WTF?

Hmmm…let’s try it now.

[Embedded content]

The gang Pence addressed is called “America First Policies?” How tone deaf and ignorant can they get? What’s next? “Citizens for a Final Solution to Immigration?”

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 16, 2018 • 2:51:45pm

re: #175 Single-handed sailor


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Democrat Kyrsten Sinema Wins Arizona Senate Race, Flipping Second GOP Seat Democrat Kyrsten Sinema has defeated Republican Martha McSally to win the Arizona Senate race, the Associated Press projected Monday evening. With Sinema's victory to flip the open seat of retiring GOP Sen. Jeff Flake, she becomes the first Democrat ...
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I DONT KNOW HOW but THEY FOUND ME - Do It All the Time This footage was first thought to be a conceptual art piece produced by the band before making music videos had become standard music industry practice. While the exact date and circumstances under which it was produced are unclear, the ...
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Sirintip - Don’t Give Up (Youtube Spaces Session) “Don’t Give Up”Music and lyrics by Sirintip Sirintip - voiceHorace Bray - guitarAndrew Freedman - keysJames Quinlan - bassNolan Byrd - drums Filmed at: Youtube Space New York Videographer: Matt MarlinskiAudio Engineer: Irving GadouryMixed by: Jonathan SmithMixed at: Galaxy ...
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Muse Perform the Dark Side on Later… With Jools HollandMuse perform The Dark Side on Later... with Jools Holland on BBC Two (6th October 2018). For more performances and interviews from the show, subscribe now: bit.ly. Watch the whole episode here: bbc.co.uk
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The Pentagon Has Prepared a Cyberattack Against Russia Officials say the new Trump cyberoperations order, National Security Presidential Memorandum 13 (NSPM 13), is designed to allow Defense Secretary James Mattis and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats to approve retaliatory strikes without the approval of others in ...
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Trump’s Orwellian EPA Disappears Climate Change Pagemotherboard.vice.com epa.gov pages that previously provided information about climate change have been changed from claiming that they are "updating" to an error message that reads, "We want to help you find what you are looking for," as revealed by a ...
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