Friday Night Jam: GoGo Penguin: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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Sept. 14, 2018 | Colin Marshall — During his setup, GoGo Penguin’s pianist Chris Illingworth asked if he could remove our piano cover to “access the inside” and, after a few rotations of a screwdriver, he soon handed me a long plank of black painted maple, which has no convenient place to rest in the NPR Music office. If you look closely at the piano innards during “Bardo,” you can see a strip of black tape stretched over a few strings, opposite Illingworth’s bobbing head. It mutes a group of strings, turning them into percussive jabs and dividing the instrument into more explicit rhythmic and melodic sections. What you can’t see: GoGo Penguin’s audio engineer a few feet to the left of frame, dialing-in reverb effects on the piano, which we heard in the room. These two elements, in tandem with bassist Nick Blacka’s precise canvasing and drummer Rob Turner’s charged and delicate pulse, have heavily contributed to the sonic identity of this trio - a signal to jazz jukebox listeners that, “Ah yes, that’s a GoGo Penguin tune.”

GoGo Penguin models closely the leaderless jazz power trio set in motion by forbearers in The Bad Plus, but you can also hear the drippings of electronica groups like Bonobo, and drum-and-bass foundations akin to Roni Size with a bit more acoustic rattle (Turner even fashions his own prepared drum accessories from rope, duct tape, and metal rings, which you can see resting atop his ride cymbal and snare. He tells me he usually has more, but he hasn’t made new ones in a while).

But dissecting this music belabors what’s certain: this trio has become a reference point of their own for new school instrumentalists, a coveted achievement for any jazz group, though their appeal stretches far outside the jazz ecosystem. In fact, in 2018 alone, the band played some of the world’s most notable pop festivals like Bonnaroo and Outside Lands and top-tier international jazz festivals: Montreal and North Sea. This trio found a way to wedge themselves in the middle of the Venn diagram that overlaps musicians and music heads. Among my colleagues at NPR, I witnessed expressions ranging from studious squints to closed-eye meditation, those in the room experiencing GoGo Penguin’s tunes like they would a collage: the fine details as valuable as the larger shape.

Set List
“Raven”
“Bardo”
“Window”

Credits
Producers: Colin Marshall Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Khun Minn Ohn, CJ Riculan; Production Assistant: Catherine Zhang; Photo: Samantha Clark

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2018 • 8:47:02pm
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jaunte  Sep 21, 2018 • 8:48:21pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

He knows.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2018 • 8:49:22pm
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jaunte  Sep 21, 2018 • 8:49:33pm
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jaunte  Sep 21, 2018 • 8:50:37pm
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makeitstop  Sep 21, 2018 • 8:53:27pm

re: #4 jaunte

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Oh, my. Someone gave Grandpa the phone, and now look what he’s gone and done!

Haha. That was supposed to be private.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 21, 2018 • 8:53:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2018 • 8:53:59pm

re: #4 jaunte

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This does read like a text or personal message and not a tweet.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2018 • 8:54:38pm

re: #6 makeitstop

WHICH ONE OF THESE BUTTONS DO I PRESS TO MAKE IT GO AWAY

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2018 • 8:55:10pm

re: #7 Single-handed sailor

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Well at least Corsi won’t have another lame book in 2020.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2018 • 8:56:10pm

(I am also phone challenged, but not morally compromised in supporting an attempted rapist for SCOTUS)

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2018 • 8:58:36pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:00:07pm

Twitter finally told me they canned that jerk Task Force Pepe.

Seems Twitter actually replies when you use the long form at

help.twitter.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:01:27pm

re: #12 jaunte

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Sir, we hear you but this is an Arby’s.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:02:10pm

re: #12 jaunte

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:03:08pm
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jaunte  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:03:21pm

Whoa; coyotes just going nuts outside.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:04:07pm

And Chuck U GRASSHOLE has just issued another extension…

cnn.com

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:05:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:05:29pm

re: #16 Single-handed sailor

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Maybe Americans are finally seeing what GOP tax plans really are. Giveaways for them and their donors.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:06:29pm

re: #19 jaunte

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Or that British socialists of the 19th century planned to bring Kavanaugh down from beyond the grave!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:06:43pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Maybe Americans are finally seeing what GOP tax plans really are. Giveaways for them and their donors.

I’m sure that right now Frank Luntz is sending out the newest talking points to all those Republican Pulpit Pimps to use in their Sunday brainwashing.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:08:22pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

FABIANS!!!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:09:52pm

re: #23 jaunte

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FABIANS!!!

Turn me loose…Turn me loose on capitalists…Turn me loose…

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Belafon  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:10:28pm

re: #16 Single-handed sailor

Now, if they’d only vote that way.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:13:50pm

Folks in the LA area: a former student of mine, Alice Cutler, will be part of an all-woman standup comedy night next Friday. $5 cover charge.

Instagram

So excited to be on #TheLadiesRoom show next Friday!

Alice hasn’t made it into the big time yet. Lend her some support.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:17:53pm

re: #25 Belafon

Now, if they’d only vote that way.

Yeah that would be awesome.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:19:50pm

There is no William Jennings Bryan to bring evangelicals back into the Democratic Party.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:23:15pm

re: #28 Joe Bacon 🌹

There is no William Jennings Bryan to bring evangelicals back into the Democratic Party.

I’m fine with that. Not a fan of WJB and his Klan fandom.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:25:08pm

You would cry too if it happened to you…

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:29:50pm
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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:33:59pm

Got a call tonight from a bandmate of She Who Must Be Obeyed that another bandmate (vocals, mando, harmonica) died from a massive heart attack. SWMBO went on a long walk. Came back when the mosquitos and the need to pee overcame her grief. He was 67. A master carpenter and woodworker, Steve was an amateur, but valiant musician, plugging away at what he loved to do. Very typical here.

SWMBO is a trouper, two gigs tomorrow, different ensemble, which she will do, but heavy hearts here in South Austin.

The sudden death of a dear friend just sucks. Steve doesn’t give a shit, of course, being dead, but I’m crying my eyes out for Becca, his wife, who is one of the sweetest women in the world. She was a career public school librarian.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:37:22pm

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

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It’s disgusting how much favoritism they’ve shown to him but Kavanaugh is more Republican op than judge.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:37:51pm

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

I’m wondering if Greasley or other Senate Republicans are trying to get Kavanaugh to voluntarily withdraw … that way they have cover rather than trying to push him through and look like Trump clones.

There are plenty of anti-life, anti-government, anti-rights, anti-women conservative judges they could nominate.

While the clock is running out before the election, it would be easier on them: Well, we tried, but you know those obstructionist Democrats, … .

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:39:20pm

re: #32 austin_blue

My sincere condolences, Mr. and Mrs. Blue.

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Skip Intro  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:39:46pm

re: #16 Single-handed sailor

They still have 100% of the Trump voters locked up.

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:40:20pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹

My sincere condolences, Mr. and Mrs. Blue.

Thanks. Tough day.

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mmmirele  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:40:21pm

I read a Tweet today and brought to memory something I hadn’t thought about in a couple of decades. I still remember the skirt, it was a really deep purple corduroy and it was just this side of legal at my junior high because it was culottes. But damn, I could have done without remembering the rest of it. It wasn’t until a long time later, when I was a lot older, that I thought Mr. Floyd was a fucking perv. And yeah, that’s his real name. He’s probably dead by now.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:41:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:43:37pm

re: #38 mmmirele

I read a Tweet today and brought to memory something I hadn’t thought about in a couple of decades. I still remember the skirt, it was a really deep purple corduroy and it was just this side of legal at my junior high because it was culottes. But damn, I could have done without remembering the rest of it. It wasn’t until a long time later, when I was a lot older, that I thought Mr. Floyd was a fucking perv. And yeah, that’s his real name. He’s probably dead by now.

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I’m so sorry that happened to you. Yet another reason why I want to smack people who pine for the good ol days.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:47:32pm

Wrongly Convicted Man Set Free After 27 Years By Super Sleuths At … Golf Digest! (Goes to Wonkette, more at the link):

It’s not every day Golf Digest gets noticed as a source of hard-hitting investigative journalism, at least outside of reviews of titanium carbon fiber nanotech infinite improbability drivers or some such. But Wednesday, some journamalisming that started with a Golf Digest story about a guy who drew fantastic imaginary golf courses concluded with that guy, Valentino Dixon, walking out of Attica prison, 27 years after he’d been sentenced for 39 years to life. Not bad, Golf Digest. We give you a GOLF CLAP. And a Pulitzer if we had one, which, sadly, we don’t.

As Golf Digest says, the twists and turns of the case are a bit complex (they’re unraveled in more detail in this New York Times story), but it basically comes down to a local prosecutor who was determined to railroad Dixon for the 1991 murder of a 17-year-old, Torriano Jackson, in Buffalo, New York. The conviction involved

shoddy police work, zero physical evidence linking Dixon, conflicting testimony of unreliable witnesses, the videotaped confession to the crime by another man, a public defender who didn’t call a witness at trial, and perjury charges against those who said Dixon didn’t do it.

(more railroading of an innocent man at the link)

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:50:26pm

My step-father’s surgery was delayed until forty-five minutes ago. It will go on until morning.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:51:32pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:54:10pm

re: #32 austin_blue

I’m so sorry for your loss.

My mother is 71, my father is 69 (giggle). I worry about their mortality. Probably more than I should. Still. The one vessel is temporary, and you only get one.

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mmmirele  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:58:45pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2018 • 9:59:41pm

re: #45 mmmirele

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:05:35pm

re: #32 austin_blue

My deepest sympathy on your loss.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:06:09pm

re: #32 austin_blue

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:10:49pm

re: #39 Dave In Austin

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Geez, that’s scary as hell.

I won’t tell you about a film that was played back in the early eighties in the Alert Shack on Wednesday night before we switched out Alert Crews Thursday mornings.

Well, maybe I will. This was before Wimmens were allowed to join Combat Crews on Tankers, which happened in 1982. The Wednesday movies were referred to as “Training Films”. It was porn. A popular film was Ron Jeremy sucking his own dick to orgasm. Much applause and many men noting they would never leave their bedrooms.

Other popular features were “Taboo”, “Behind The Green Door”, “Debbie Does Dallas”, and “Deep Throat”.

Reagan was the President. Go figure. I found it an…interesting view of America at the time. I also knew that as soon as my term of service was up, I was out of that organization and into civilian life.

Pretty disturbing.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:12:19pm

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

My step-father’s surgery was delayed until forty-five minutes ago. It will go on until morning.

Best wishes to your stepfather; hopefully, his recovery will proceed smoothly.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:15:50pm

re: #49 austin_blue

Oh……. Wait here.

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CleverToad  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:15:53pm

re: #32 austin_blue

{{{austin blue & SWMBO}}
Treasure the memories of the love and the music
Yeah, it sucks

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Dave In Austin  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:16:27pm

re: #51 Dave In Austin

Oh……. Wait here.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:18:55pm

JFC!

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:18:57pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

I’m so sorry for your loss.

My mother is 71, my father is 69 (giggle). I worry about their mortality. Probably more than I should. Still. The one vessel is temporary, and you only get one.

re: #48 Joe Bacon 🌹

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re: #47 Hecuba’s daughter

My deepest sympathy on your loss.

Thank you all. Like I said, a tough day. Time to take care of the living. Becca is not going to have to cook a meal for weeks. It’s what we do down here.

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gwangung  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:19:09pm

re: #12 jaunte

Patronizing, sexist tweet.

Can’t believe that a woman can dictate her own priorities.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:21:21pm

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:21:25pm

Recent Cohen developments help contextualize today’s the Trump admin NYT ratfucking of Rosenstein.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:22:03pm

re: #54 goddamnedfrank

JFC!

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I’m sure Jesus forgave his sins.

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plansbandc  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:22:22pm

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:23:08pm

re: #51 Dave In Austin

Oh……. Wait here.

Wait, what? There’s an animatronic Ron Jeremy auto-fellatio machine?

That’s just…amazing and deeply disturbing.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:26:38pm

re: #54 goddamnedfrank

JFC!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:27:36pm

Seriously if you don’t have an Aldi nearby I feel bad for you.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:27:58pm

re: #57 Joe Bacon 🌹

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:30:53pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:40:52pm
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Belafon  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:41:44pm

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

My little city of 42k has two. Plus two Krogers, a Tom Thumb, a Walmart Super Center, and a Walmart Market.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:43:06pm

re: #67 Belafon

My little city of 42k has two. Plus two Krogers, a Tom Thumb, a Walmart Super Center, and a Walmart Market.

People gotta eat!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:45:43pm

re: #67 Belafon

My little city of 42k has two. Plus two Krogers, a Tom Thumb, a Walmart Super Center, and a Walmart Market.

When we lived in Ponca City, Oklahoma, there was one there. We went shopping there once and were not impressed with it.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:49:05pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:56:19pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

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mmmirele  Sep 21, 2018 • 10:57:29pm

re: #57 Joe Bacon 🌹

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:03:32pm

OK, Bill Maher did a good bit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:05:14pm

Just some Christian outlets trying to educate people on their faith and lead people to Christ (oh wait, they’re not doing that, they’re engaging in politics so they can gain power):

Franklin Graham on Judge Kavanaugh Accusation: ‘Not Relevant’ (Goes to the Christian Broadcasting Network, with video):

Evangelist and humanitarian [sic] Franklin Graham says the sexual assault allegation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh is irrelevant.

He told CBN News Tuesday, “it’s just a shame that a person like Judge Kavanaugh who has a stellar record—that somebody can bring something up that he did as a teenager close to 40 years ago. That’s not relevant.”

He added, “We’ve got to look at a person’s life and what they’ve done as an adult and are they qualified for this position so this is just an attempt to smear him.”

Dutch Sheets Warns of Intense Spiritual Warfare Surrounding Kavanaugh Hearings (Charisma Magazine):

Evangelist Dutch Sheets, who has led a prayer team in the hearing room this week, told CBN News his group has interacted often with protesters and learned they’re more organized than people realize.

“Some of my friends have seen them being paid,” said Sheets. “It’s an orchestrated effort to try and make a statement and convince the nation that they’re the mainstream and that this is what people want, but it’s not true, and we know it’s not true.”

Sheets told CBN News he has felt intense spiritual warfare this week.

WILL KAVANAUGH BE SUBJECTED TO BIGOTRY? (Capital letters their’s, goes to the Catholic League, more at the link):

Most critics of Supreme Court Justice nominee Brett Kavanaugh are not anti-Catholic, but some are. We know this because both political parties have had their fair share of anti-Catholics—at every level of government—and they are not shy about flaunting their bigotry. In the case of Kavanaugh, it is the Democrats who bear watching.

Some of Kavanaugh’s critics are trying to get out in front of this issue by attacking those who protest anti-Catholicism, making them sound like some kind of well-greased cabal. Sarah Posner, writing on the website of the Nation magazine, makes the most lengthy effort to date.

Her article, “The ‘Anti-Catholic’ Playbook,” begins by asking, “Does Brett Kavanaugh think abortion should be illegal? A secret network of right-wing activists has spent millions attacking such questions as anti-religious bigotry.”

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:19:28pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:21:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:26:47pm

New Pa. stretch completes I-95 after 62 years (Philadelphia Inquirer)

Sometime this weekend in Bucks County, new road signs will be unveiled, barricades will be removed, and for the first time cars will drive on an I-95 that runs contiguously from Maine to Florida.

The typical interstate traveler may not be aware that I-95, begun 62 years ago when President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the Federal Aid Highway Act, was incomplete. Drivers in Southeastern Pennsylvania are only too familiar, though, with the confusing lack of connections among three major highways that overlap in Bucks County: the north-south interstate, the Pennsylvania Turnpike, and I-295.

It’s a uniquely Pennsylvania problem: A driver heading north on I-95 could make no turns, take no exits, and yet suddenly end up heading south on an entirely different highway.

(more)

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Jason Munro  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:28:21pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

I tried to watch it. 30 seconds in I had to bail. Even when he is right, he is such a pompous dbag I can’t stand to hear him talk.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:31:55pm

Naw, they’re not Nazis, genocide is good for you:

New Depths of Creepy (Goes to Juanita Jean’s, the World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon, I like the name of her blog, more at the link):

Long time customer Don sent me some creepy stuff from a new movie being produced at Liberty University, the spawn of Jerry Falwell.

A guy named Mark Taylor believes that Donald Trump was sent by God to save all of creation and your happy butt, too. He’s probably wrong but he does have some interesting theories.

Opponents of the Great Hero Trump, Taylor says, are “not even human.” Their DNA, he reports, has been altered so that they are now “pure out evil” demonic creatures. These demonic non-humans, Taylor explains, “eat kids.” And because killing and eating children is illegal, Taylor says, the GHT will one day arrest them all.

Okay that’s one of the milder and maybe even plausible things.

Taylor warns that President Trump will soon declare martial law and begin publicly executing his political enemies. Actually, Taylor did not say this as a warning, but as a celebration.

(with video)

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:37:15pm
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Jason Munro  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:37:45pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

He told CBN News Tuesday, “it’s just a shame that a person like Judge Kavanaugh who has a stellar record—that somebody can bring something up that he did as a teenager close to 40 years ago. That’s not relevant.”

OF FUCKING COURSE IT’S RELEVANT. I was a more rebellious teenager than most. I never tried to fucking rape someone. WTF!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:38:29pm

Liberal Redneck on something getting lost in the shuffle … (4:42)

Liberal Redneck - Climate Change the Game

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:40:54pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:41:08pm

re: #81 Jason Munro

OF FUCKING COURSE IT’S RELEVANT. I was a more rebellious teenager than most. I never tried to fucking rape someone. WTF!

Substitute “attempted rape” with “kidnap” (since kidnapping is a lesser-included charge with rape), since conservatives seem to have such trouble wrapping their heads around the idea of consent and revictimising a victim.

“Well, he was accused of kidnapping forty years ago, but that was so long ago, as such it’s irrelevant.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:43:29pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:47:46pm
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Jason Munro  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:52:34pm

“good faith”. This phrase keeps popping up in things I’m reading/hearing. The GOP does not negotiate in good faith. The fact that the media still treats them like they do kills me.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:53:21pm
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fern01  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:55:04pm

So in my part of the world it is nearly 5pm & although I don’t usually have the first drink before 6pm - somewhere east of me it is already 6pm.

After the b.s. from white old men senators today - I have earned an early start. Regardless of time, feel free to join in. I drink a toast to Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and wish her every blessing that she has well earned. Whether she speaks to said old white men or not, she has my forever respect.

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ckkatz  Sep 21, 2018 • 11:56:34pm

re: #80 Single-handed sailor

To say nothing of the millions of chickens, turkeys and hogs lost to the hurricane. No idea how many were washed into the river systems.

And all the industrial waste, such as coal ash, that has also been washed downstream.

I plan on waiting until next spring before even considering a trip to the Carolina beaches.

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ckkatz  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:03:55am

I share everybody’s absolute disgust for Kavanaugh.

But even from a cold-blooded political calculation point of view, it seems kind of crazy to me that the GOP is still pushing Kavanaugh.

As mentioned earlier, if he gets in, he now has criminal liability for sexual crimes with a minor in the State of Maryland. As well as for perjury in his Congressional testimony. And the GOP will not keep the Senate forever.

I am wondering if he will even be able to keep his federal judgeship if he backs down on SCOTUS.

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Kragar  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:04:49am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:07:25am

re: #91 ckkatz

I share everybody’s absolute disgust for Kavanaugh.

But even from a cold-blooded political calculation point of view, it seems kind of crazy to me that the GOP is still pushing Kavanaugh.

As mentioned earlier, if he gets in, he now has criminal liability for sexual crimes with a minor in the State of Maryland. As well as for perjury in his Congressional testimony. And the GOP will not keep the Senate forever.

I am wondering if he will even be able to keep his federal judgeship if he backs down on SCOTUS.

As noted in the past, the sex crime (attempted rape) statute of limitation has expired. The law passed removing that limitation was passed after the time of the accusation, thus it would be unconstitutional to prosecute for the crime of attempted rape (ex post facto law).

On the other hand, there was never a statute of limitation on the crime of kidnapping (the lesser included offence in rape and attempted rape). The constitutional hurdle would be much easier with a charge of kidnapping.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:13:42am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:19:18am
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ckkatz  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:19:57am

I admit to having missed that discussion.

IANAL, but my understanding was that there is no statute of limitations for felonies in the State of Maryland. The question of course, is whether he would be charged with a felony or a misdemeanor.

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Jason Munro  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:21:15am

re: #91 ckkatz

I predicted yesterday this shitstorm will derail his nomination. I’m holding my position on that. Today Mich promised “values voters” *barf* he had the votes to jam this through *barf again*. Even if he does, the weekend is going to be LONG for the GOP, and I still think his nomination might be revoked. He is toxic regardless of next weeks testimony. I’m not saying the GOP is not craven enough to prevail, but shit, seems like bad politics no matter what they do.

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Kragar  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:29:59am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:30:10am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹

As noted in the past, the sex crime (attempted rape) statute of limitation has expired. The law passed removing that limitation was passed after the time of the accusation, thus it would be unconstitutional to prosecute for the crime of attempted rape (ex post facto law).

On the other hand, there was never a statute of limitation on the crime of kidnapping (the lesser included offence in rape and attempted rape). The constitutional hurdle would be much easier with a charge of kidnapping.

I can’t remember the name of the County, but the appropriate County Sheriff in Maryland has said they’d be happy to open an investigation into the crime if Dr. Ford files a complaint. I’m pretty sure there’s no statute of limitations.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:30:50am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:40:35am

re: #96 ckkatz

I admit to having missed that discussion.

IANAL, but my understanding was that there is no statute of limitations for felonies in the State of Maryland. The question of course, is whether he would be charged with a felony or a misdemeanor.

Some felonies and misdemeanours have no limitation (now) in Maryland. Statues of limitations have long been used in the USA to prevent the sort of political retribution that used to occur in the United Kingdom (our party wins, we charge leaders of the other party with a crime that happened so long ago there is no evidence or witnesses with the goal of ruining them).

Maryland’s repeal was only last year.

baltimoresun.com

Most states have statues of limitations on sex crimes just as any other crime.

In most states, a major barrier to bringing the perpetrators of rape and sexual assault to justice is baked into the law. Nationwide, 34 states and Washington, DC, have statutes of limitations on filing rape or sexual-assault charges, ranging from 3 to 30 years. In New Hampshire, charges must be filed within six years of a crime; in Connecticut, it’s five years. In Minnesota, it’s three. Some states tie the statute of limitations to reporting deadlines. If a survivor in Illinois comes forward within three years, the state has 10 years to file charges. If she takes longer than that, the case dies.

motherjones.com (table includes Maryland’s new law)

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:45:36am
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ckkatz  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:53:00am

re: #97 Jason Munro

I predicted yesterday this shitstorm will derail his nomination. I’m holding my position on that. Today Mich promised “values voters” *barf* he had the votes to jam this through *barf again*. Even if he does, the weekend is going to be LONG for the GOP, and I still think his nomination might be revoked. He is toxic regardless of next weeks testimony. I’m not saying the GOP is not craven enough to prevail, but shit, seems like bad politics no matter what they do.

In normal times I would absolutely agree with you. And I share your hope. But there does seem to be a lot of crazy stuff right now.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:53:33am

I know its hopeless, but still, I persist…

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ckkatz  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:59:52am

I guess that it is getting near Halloween time. So here’s my contribution on spiders:

A ‘terrifying’ nursery rhyme drifted through a neighborhood for a year. The cause? Spiders.

washingtonpost.com

For months, usually around bedtime, the sound of a distant limerick drifted through a neighborhood in Ipswich, a seaside town in the United Kingdom.

The words to the nursery rhyme were familiar: “It’s raining, it’s pouring; the old man is snoring.”

But it wasn’t soothing. And it wasn’t putting anyone to sleep.

Quite the opposite.

For several residents, the tune was the stuff of nightmares.

“It’s very haunting,” Ipswich resident Alice Randle said in a recent interview with The Independent, a London-based online newspaper.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:17:18am

re: #104 Sufficient unto the day…

Perhaps your dingbat is referring to Mr. Trump’s latest proclamation:

Presidential Proclamation on National Hunting and Fishing Day, 2018 (goes to the White House Website)

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ckkatz  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:22:31am

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹

You bring up a number of interesting points.

Sadly, I agree that it is unlikely for the judicial system in Montgomery County, Maryland to pursue any charges seriously. Due to, as you have pointed out, the length of time, the difficulty of proving these charges. And additionally, the fact that the dependent is extremely well connected with the legal system there.

Brett Kavanaugh Could Still Face Charges For Attempted Rape In Maryland
hillreporter.com

Gov. Hogan rules out state police investigation of Kavanaugh allegations
baltimoresun.com

Gov. Larry Hogan on Friday ruled out involving the Maryland State Police in any investigation of allegations that U.S. Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted a 15-year-old girl more than 30 years ago in Montgomery County.

Additionally, you point out, correctly, I believe, that there was a tradition of not criminalizing political opponents. However, there are a bunch of issues I suspect that will alter that. First, the destruction of the norms and boundaries by the current administration. (“Lock Her Up”)

Second, the apparent fact that parts of the current administration appear to me to be indisinguishable from criminal enterprises.

Third, that many parts of the administration were criminal enterprises prior to taking power.

Fourth, the need to re-establish some sort of boundaries and rule of law.

What does this all mean to me? Since it is 4AM I admit to having no idea. Except that in the end, it is all really a political problem.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:27:02am

re: #107 ckkatz

All of that and more is why my unasked for opinion is that the charge pursued should be kidnapping.

That doesn’t give the satisfaction of seeing Kavanaugh put on a sex offender registry if convicted.

However, kidnapping is a simpler crime to prove, has no statute of limitations, carries a severe penalty, does not draw questions such as “what was she wearing” or “how much was she drinking” or “how many dates did she go on,” &c.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:41:10am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 2:21:51am
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Nyet  Sep 22, 2018 • 2:59:50am

Look at our little “I am a feminist” friend.

Naturally, his TL is even more chockfull of Holocaust deniers/Hitler apologists/outright neo-Nazis as before.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 22, 2018 • 3:02:33am
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 22, 2018 • 3:11:29am

re: #111 Nyet

Look at our little “I am a feminist” friend.

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Naturally, his TL is even more chockfull of Holocaust deniers/Hitler apologists/outright neo-Nazis as before.

That’s someone who isn’t missed around here. It’s a shame he hasn’t been struck down by lightning yet.

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Nyet  Sep 22, 2018 • 4:04:50am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 4:08:21am
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 22, 2018 • 4:24:47am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 4:42:25am

Trump’s new hire compares CO2 to Jews during the Holocaust (Utah Outcasts, 12:34, NSFW for coarse language)

The man is Dr. William Happer, a physicist and climate science denier. He also worked during the GHW Bush administration.

He works on the National Security Council as advisor for emergent technologies.

sciencemag.org

A comment on the video:

Corporations are people, zygotes are people, CO2 is people… Actual people are expendable resources to be exploited until they have nothing left to give, then tossed out in the street and left to die.

Trump’s New Hire Compares CO2 to Jews During Holocaust

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 22, 2018 • 5:47:28am

The Idiodyssey continues:
Lubbock radio host/owner compares Kavanaugh to Tim Cole, who was falsely convicted of rape and died in prison.

Facebook Post

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2018 • 5:53:04am

re: #118 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Another fine example of extreme vetting. Only the best that the swamp has to offer. I love that term ” Idiodyssey.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 5:53:33am

re: #118 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Idiodyssey continues:
Lubbock radio host/owner compares Kavanaugh to Tim Cole, who was falsely convicted of rape and died in prison.

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FFS the worst that will likely happen to Kavanaugh is he gets disbarred and then he’ll make money on the wingnut welfare circuit. It’s hilsr seeing tough on crime conservatives care about innocence when it’s clearly partisan motivated.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2018 • 5:59:14am

Another day, another call for summary judgment from the “law and order” crowd.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:02:06am

re: #121 Targetpractice

Another day, another call for summary judgment from the “law and order” crowd.

Law and order is just for those people not punkass snobs like Kavanaugh and his friends.

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fern01  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:02:59am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

FFS the worst that will likely happen to Kavanaugh is he gets disbarred and then he’ll make money on the wingnut welfare circuit. It’s hilsr seeing tough on crime conservatives care about innocence when it’s clearly partisan motivated.

Trump damages everything/everyone he comes in contact with. Kavanaugh would have been better off working out another way to get out of debt and gone nowhere near a SCOTUS nomination. Because trump was never properly vetted and (at the minute) gets away with all types of illegal actions, no-one else should consider they are in the same situation.

Kavanaugh should have talked to Michael Cohen to understand that trump will always cut and run, leaving you with the babe (so to speak) when things don’t go according to plan.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:07:04am

re: #123 fern01

Trump damages everything/everyone he comes in contact with. Kavanaugh would have been better off working out another way to get out of debt and gone nowhere near a SCOTUS nomination. Because trump was never properly vetted and (at the minute) gets away with all types of illegal actions, no-one else should consider they are in the same situation.

Kavanaugh should have talked to Michael Cohen to understand that trump will always cut and run, leaving you with the babe (so to speak) when things don’t go according to plan.

Trump will if the nomination falls through be saying he barely knew Kavanaugh.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:07:06am

There’s only two real reasons to oppose an investigation at this point: Fear of the midterms and fear that there is actually something to Prof. Ford’s allegations. If you believe he’s truly innocent and the process is not being rushed, then putting a hold on the confirmation to allow the FBI to reopen their background check into him should settle the matter.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:08:01am

re: #113 Single-handed sailor

That’s someone who isn’t missed around here. It’s a shame he hasn’t been struck down by lightning yet.

I’m glad I never ran into that person here.

Family news update: My step-father is still in surgery. I don’t know if this is a good thing or not.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:12:43am

re: #125 Targetpractice

There’s only two real reasons to oppose an investigation at this point: Fear of the midterms and fear that there is actually something to Prof. Ford’s allegations. If you believe he’s truly innocent and the process is not being rushed, then putting a hold on the confirmation to allow the FBI to reopen their background check into him should settle the matter.

I think the public is seeing it that way too which is why I think they’re pushing full speed ahead ignoring the icebergs. I think they know that they’ve lost so they might as well get the elusive 5th Justice.

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fern01  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:17:04am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

Trump will if the nomination falls through be saying he barely knew Kavanaugh.

Didn’t know him, didn’t like what he knew, was forced by Sessions to nominate him.
“I prefer my Judges to be winners, do not like those who lose to a whinging woman”

Anyone working for, or nominated by this man, should know this could be in their future.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:18:35am

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

I’m glad I never ran into that person here.

Family news update: My step-father is still in surgery. I don’t know if this is a good thing or not.

I’d take it as a good thing right now. When I had my valve replacement surgery a while back it took a bit longer then usual. That was because the doc was taking care of some stuff from my previous surgeries (this was my 3rd open heart. born with a bad aortic valve).
If they are already in there and see something else that needs taken care of they will if the patient is stable. It could just be case of making sure all is well before closing since the patient is in no distress.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:23:42am

We still have to deal with this religious crap in the modern day. This is why I was left homeless by a divorce court.

I Thought I Was Possessed By The Devil. The Truth Shook My Deepest Beliefs. (goes to Huffington Post, more at the link):

In 1975, when I was a fifth-grader at St. William Elementary, a Catholic school in Cincinnati, Ohio, the devil began visiting me — or at least so I thought.

During these episodes, my brain felt as if it were vibrating and then turning to concrete from the inside out. I wouldn’t lose consciousness, but I would zone out, unable to speak. My reality was twisted in ways both nonsensical and scary. Most everything I saw either changed physically or registered as something else in my mind. For instance, a teacher would turn into an alligator, a pencil into a sword, a tree into a dinosaur.

(July 21, 2018)

Possession by ‘Jinn’ as a cause of epilepsy (Saraa): A study from Saudi Arabia (May 2012, Science Direct)

I was subjected to exorcisms as a child to treat my epilepsy (Guardian, 21 September 2016, in the UK, allegedly a First World country)

When I was two years old, my parents told me I had been cursed by a witch. I’m lucky I didn’t die while trying to hide my seizures from them

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:25:05am

re: #129 Eventual Carrion

Thank you for the kind words. I do hope that is the case.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:27:11am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹

Fixed Guardian link in that post.

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jeffreyw  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:28:06am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:28:19am

re: #127 HappyWarrior

I think the public is seeing it that way too which is why I think they’re pushing full speed ahead ignoring the icebergs. I think they know that they’ve lost so they might as well get the elusive 5th Justice.

Kavanaugh is already one of the more unpopular judicial nominees, with approval ratings among the public in the 30s and even among the GOP he’s only in the 70s. The whole “He’s such an awesome guy!” bit seems to have been their only card to play and that’s becoming more tattered with each passing day. At this point, the only thing keeping him from being dumped altogether is that he really is their one shot at seating that 5th far-right vote before next January.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:28:43am

re: #54 goddamnedfrank

JFC!

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Gosh he just can’t keep Mister Pee Pee in his pants…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:29:47am

Shocking! To some in Houston it seems. Since I’ve been reading SF since 1956, I am only surprised that it has taken this long.

Facebook Post

Addenda: This is run by a Canadian company called Kinky S Dolls. They already have such a facility in Toronto. The dolls rent for $120 an hour.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:30:21am

re: #134 Targetpractice

Kavanaugh is already one of the more unpopular judicial nominees, with approval ratings among the public in the 30s and even among the GOP he’s only in the 70s. The whole “He’s such an awesome guy!” bit seems to have been their only card to play and that’s becoming more tattered with each passing day. At this point, the only thing keeping him from being dumped altogether is that he really is their one shot at seating that 5th far-right vote before next January.

Yep.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:30:35am

re: #81 Jason Munro

OF FUCKING COURSE IT’S RELEVANT. I was a more rebellious teenager than most. I never tried to fucking rape someone. WTF!

If he did this then he doesn’t have a stellar record
What he did was commit a crime and manage to not get caught

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:30:43am

re: #135 Joe Bacon 🌹

Gosh he just can’t keep Mister Pee Pee in his pants…

Aside from assaulting someone with drugs, a minor nit to pick.

I dislike the conservative framing “unborn baby.” Babies only exist after they are born.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:33:59am

re: #91 ckkatz

I share everybody’s absolute disgust for Kavanaugh.

But even from a cold-blooded political calculation point of view, it seems kind of crazy to me that the GOP is still pushing Kavanaugh.

As mentioned earlier, if he gets in, he now has criminal liability for sexual crimes with a minor in the State of Maryland. As well as for perjury in his Congressional testimony. And the GOP will not keep the Senate forever.

I am wondering if he will even be able to keep his federal judgeship if he backs down on SCOTUS.

As I’ve warned before, just wait till Maryland indicts and convicts him…then Hogan pardons him...

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:35:57am

re: #138 dangerman

If he did this then he doesn’t have a stellar record
What he did was commit a crime and manage to not get caught

Yup.

Somehow as a godless heathen, I managed never to even give the appearance of trying to rape or sexually assault anyone. Most pastors (including those who are not famous like Franklin Graham) would say I am the evil one, simply for lack of belief.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:36:16am
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Nyet  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:37:24am

The GOP is the party of degenerates and it should disappear from the face of the Earth.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:40:14am

The GOP basically lost their opportunity not to look like self-serving weasels the moment they rushed to deem Kavanaugh such a “good man” now that anything he may have done in the past can be “forgiven.” Now they’re just left trying to convince people that they give a damn about hearing a woman who they’ve already decided is a liar out to destroy the name of that “good man.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:49:02am
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:50:14am

re: #145 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

DT would be jealous of them if it were his parade.

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Jay C  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:52:12am

re: #134 Targetpractice

Kavanaugh is already one of the more unpopular judicial nominees, with approval ratings among the public in the 30s and even among the GOP he’s only in the 70s. The whole “He’s such an awesome guy!” bit seems to have been their only card to play and that’s becoming more tattered with each passing day. At this point, the only thing keeping him from being dumped altogether is that he really is their one shot at seating that 5th far-right vote before next January.

True this. Even though the notion that GOP Senators give a good flying about what the public thinks is most assuredly “facts not in evidence”. But: barring the unlikely scenario that:
a) Trump has another FedSoc-approved nominee* on the bench ready to go, and
b) the Senate GOP could get hearings set up, and held - AND get the nom out of Committee and before the full Senate before session’s end, and
c) the “new” nomination wouldn’t/couldn’t be held up

Yeah: Kavanaugh is it - for now. But the SC is too important to them: McConnell has, IIRC, said that is IS worth risking control of the Senate to get a “correct” Justice on SCOTUS. So big stakes.

*presumably better-vetted

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:55:02am

Well, I’ve been awake all night waiting for news from the hospital in Chicago concerning my step-father. I am way tired, so I am off to bed.

Good night (morning really) y’all.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 22, 2018 • 6:55:52am

re: #144 Targetpractice

The GOP basically lost their opportunity not to look like self-serving weasels the moment they rushed to deem Kavanaugh such a “good man” now that anything he may have done in the past can be “forgiven.” Now they’re just left trying to convince people that they give a damn about hearing a woman who they’ve already decided is a liar out to destroy the name of that “good man.”

Let’s not forget his mysterious financial records from 12 years ago, when he managed to finance a $1.2 million home with only a few tens of thousands in the bank.

Being generous, one could assume the bank figured a man with his background and earnings potential would be a good credit risk, but if I tried to buy a $1.2 million house with $25K in credit card debt and only $10K in savings, they’d laugh in my face and throw me to the curb. Somehow. somewhere, Kavanaugh found enough money to swing that mortgage, and still pay his country club dues and school tuition for his daughters.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:01:25am

re: #149 wheat-dogg

Let’s not forget his mysterious financial records from 12 years ago, when he managed to finance a $1.2 million home with only a few tens of thousands in the bank.

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Being generous, one could assume the bank figured a man with his background and earnings potential would be a good credit risk, but if I tried to buy a $1.2 million house with $25K in credit card debt and only $10K in savings, they’d laugh in my face and throw me to the curb. Somehow. somewhere, Kavanaugh found enough money to swing that mortgage, and still pay his country club dues and school tuition for his daughters.

Yeah this Kava-naw is a real piece of work.

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:02:21am

Heh.

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:08:23am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:21:12am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹

Liberal Redneck on something getting lost in the shuffle … (4:42)

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Video

Liberal Redneck is wrong — the globe thing doesn’t work if your communication with the denier is over the phone. Unfortunately the other approach, reason, fails with these deniers because they are getting information from other sources, such as the Koch Bros whose continued wealth depends on destroying this planet.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:21:43am

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

What is the rationale for anyone caring, let alone wanting to prevent it from opening?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:26:04am

re: #154 Colère Tueur de Lapin

What is the rationale for anyone caring, let alone wanting to prevent it from opening?

Why should I answer that? I do not oppose it. I posted it as a news story relevant to attitudes in Houston.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:26:12am

moron

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plansbandc  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:31:00am

How about we start off the day with some ridiculous cuteness?!

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freetoken  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:33:40am

Some attention being paid to the following article published yesterday in Science:

Ancient steroids establish the Ediacaran fossil Dickinsonia as one of the earliest animals


Confirming the identity of early animals

The first complex organisms emerged during the Ediacaran period, around 600 million years ago. The taxonomic affiliation of many of these organisms has been difficult to discern. Fossils of Dickinsonia, bilaterally symmetrical oval organisms, have been particularly difficult to classify. Bobrovskiy et al. conducted an analysis using lipid biomarkers obtained from Dickinsonia fossils and found that the fossils contained almost exclusively cholesteroids, a marker found only in animals (see the Perspective by Summons and Erwin). Thus, Dickinsonia were basal animals. This supports the idea that the Ediacaran biota may have been a precursor to the explosion of animal forms later observed in the Cambrian, about 500 million years ago.

Abstract
The enigmatic Ediacara biota (571 million to 541 million years ago) represents the first macroscopic complex organisms in the geological record and may hold the key to our understanding of the origin of animals. Ediacaran macrofossils are as “strange as life on another planet” and have evaded taxonomic classification, with interpretations ranging from marine animals or giant single-celled protists to terrestrial lichens. Here, we show that lipid biomarkers extracted from organically preserved Ediacaran macrofossils unambiguously clarify their phylogeny. Dickinsonia and its relatives solely produced cholesteroids, a hallmark of animals. Our results make these iconic members of the Ediacara biota the oldest confirmed macroscopic animals in the rock record, indicating that the appearance of the Ediacara biota was indeed a prelude to the Cambrian explosion of animal life.

Very many popular articles are running with misleading headlines or articles, though. As expected.

And this is before the creationists get into the act.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:41:18am

re: #158 freetoken

Did the editor of this magazine actually read the article? The title alone is confusing. Did they mean to write “asteroids?”

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:41:31am

Best debate live tweet ever (thread).

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:43:08am

Looks like hash for breakfast…

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:47:07am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

I first thought it was a sewer grate with his star painted on it.

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freetoken  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:48:16am

re: #159 PhillyPretzel

The link I gave is to Science, the journal of the AAAS. Yes the title is accurate.

Popular articles are running with wild claims.

What was discovered is that there are traces of the remains of cholesteroids still locked in the fossils, indicating the fossils were indeed animals (and not plants.)

I am sure there will be a lot of discussion within the scientific community about possible contamination, and also if other organisms on the tree of life may have evolved the chemistry we have today.

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freetoken  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:54:45am
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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:55:55am

re: #161 makeitstop

Looks like hash for breakfast…

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The GOP have basically lost control over this confirmation process. Really, they lost control over it days ago, but yesterday just made it clear that they’re flailing now to find a way to back out of this hearing without looking like total douches. They bet the farm on Prof. Ford choosing not to testify, overextending themselves by saying they badly wanted to hear from her and would do what they could to make her “comfortable.” She called their bluff and now they’re locked into having a hearing, the only questions being when and under what terms.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:58:57am
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freetoken  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:59:32am

I’ll browse the article later to see what they say about possible contamination.

The problem is that sedimentary rocks are not impervious to organic molecules. Indeed, the entire petro-chemical industry is dependent upon such.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2018 • 7:59:38am

re: #165 Targetpractice

Never back professors into a corner. They come back with some unusual responses.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:04:02am

Roy Moore will now volunteer to replace Garrett Ventry.

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:04:29am

re: #165 Targetpractice

The GOP have basically lost control over this confirmation process. Really, they lost control over it days ago, but yesterday just made it clear that they’re flailing now to find a way to back out of this hearing without looking like total douches. They bet the farm on Prof. Ford choosing not to testify, overextending themselves by saying they badly wanted to hear from her and would do what they could to make her “comfortable.” She called their bluff and now they’re locked into having a hearing, the only questions being when and under what terms.

We can barely even go to sleep without major developments in this story!

Just since last night, we’ve gotten

- The story that Whelan knew Ford’s name before her identity came out in the news,
- Grassley’s oops moment, thinking Twitter was text messaging and sending a public tweet to Kavanaugh,
- and a senior advisor to Judiciary having to leave due to sexual misconduct allegations of his own (and also working for that PR firm in charge of smearing Ford)

These guys are supposed to know what they’re doing, right? Because it sure as fuck doesn’t look like it.

As Clyde Frazier would call it, ‘towering ineptitude.’

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:04:46am
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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:07:57am

re: #171 jaunte

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It’s beginning to look more and more like the Senate Republicans are not pissed that Feinstein kept the letter hidden from them, but that they knew about Ford and were not clued in that she was already in contact with Senate Democrats until a week ago.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:09:56am

re: #172 Targetpractice

It looks like all heck is going to break loose. It will make Watergate look like a child’s play.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:13:33am

re: #171 jaunte

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:15:34am

re: #174 Belafon

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Wow, this guy’s quite the genius:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:16:10am
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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:17:14am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Flammenhoser”

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:17:37am

My wife just showed me this. Fans of Muppets and Cypress Hill will both enjoy it.

CYPRESS HILL - Insane in the Brain (BENITOLOCO VIDEO - MUPPET FLOW)

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:18:45am

re: #175 Barefoot Grin

Wow, this guy’s quite the genius:

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If by “investigate,” you mean “corner the victim and try to force her to recant or shut up.”

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:20:37am

re: #179 Targetpractice

That is what they mean by that. That is why I made comment #168. It looks like it I going to backfire on them. :)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:21:18am

re: #166 jaunte

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How fitting.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:22:33am

If I were Garrett, I’d be quiet. Idiot.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:22:52am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:24:01am

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Shocking! To some in Houston it seems. Since I’ve been reading SF since 1956, I am only surprised that it has taken this long.

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Now I got to ask this…are there Male robots for Female customers?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:25:35am

re: #183 jaunte

Sarah has more credit in my book than those so-called average citizens. CNN needs to take some lessons from Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:26:40am

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Shocking! To some in Houston it seems. Since I’ve been reading SF since 1956, I am only surprised that it has taken this long.

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Addenda: This is run by a Canadian company called Kinky S Dolls. They already have such a facility in Toronto. The dolls rent for $120 an hour.

“Of course, you can always trust your health to our cleanup crew. Why do you ask?”

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:27:19am

re: #180 PhillyPretzel

That is what they mean by that. That is why I made comment #168. It looks like it I going to backfire on them. :)

It’s really been a slow-motion trainwreck for days now. They’ve no real way out getting out of this hearing now, the list of questions that Senate Dems are gonna be asking is only getting more uncomfortable, and even the idea of having an “outside” prosecutor questioning Prof. Ford is going to look bad for them.

It was hard to imagine they could handle this worse than Anita Hill, but they seem to be doing exactly that.

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terraincognita  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:29:54am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

glücklich selbstzerstörerisch

or in deutschespanisch

no mas pantalones

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:32:49am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:33:06am

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Shocking! To some in Houston it seems. Since I’ve been reading SF since 1956, I am only surprised that it has taken this long.

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Addenda: This is run by a Canadian company called Kinky S Dolls. They already have such a facility in Toronto. The dolls rent for $120 an hour.

If this keeps real women from being abused and exploited I’m fine with it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:33:22am

Hatch floats a “theory” on Monday that was supposedly put forward to him by Kavanaugh, only for that theory to be brought up by Ed Whelan who is buddies with the SJC GOP’s comm advisor. And Whelan knew whose name to investigate days before she went public. And prominent wingnuts seemed to know about Whelan’s announcement hours before it was made.

I’m sure it’s all a massive coincidence.//////

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:35:00am

re: #166 jaunte

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The farmers are starting to realize that putting the foxes in charge of the hen house was maybe a bad idea?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:38:45am

The gloating of the orange shitwad if Kavanagh gets confirmed is going to be unbearable.

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:39:46am

…and in other (bad) news (for Trump)…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:51:12am

re: #192 Eventual Carrion

The farmers are starting to realize that putting the foxes in charge of the hen house was maybe a bad idea?

Based on the farmers who we deal with on the phone every day, NOTHING will get them to vote Democratic. Amazing the number of fools who tell my coworkers and I that “Gawd is testing us”, “The Lord will provide”, “My faith will see us through” and other such inane dribbling…

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:52:47am

re: #195 Joe Bacon 🌹

Based on the farmers who we deal with on the phone every day, NOTHING will get them to vote Democratic. Amazing the number of fools who tell my coworkers and I that “Gawd is testing us”, “The Lord will provide”, “My faith will see us through” and other such inane dribbling…

God and Guns, all ya need!

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Old Liberal  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:55:41am

re: #192 Eventual Carrion

The farmers are starting to realize that putting the foxes in charge of the hen house was maybe a bad idea?

I live in farm country, not for much longer. I’m not getting any sense that rural voters are hanging anything on the orange menace or the republicans in congress. Many people here lack the ability for analysis beyond “if the libs are for it I’m agin it”. I think that the masters of propaganda have thoroughly tied the fact of climate change to “the libtards” and ergo no amount of facts or even personal experience will crack through that. Same with taxes and regulation and immigration and trade. These people have been like this for decades, I remember in the 1970’s farmers were on the radio saying they “want the government out of the ag market, and they want parity at 90%”. Parity was a dairy price support program run by the Federal Government. They aren’t stupid about everything, but they are willfully stupid about many things. Oh, and the egos these people have, apparently they are large and fragile, because once they are shown they are wrong, the entire discussion is over, for good. “That’s just how I feel, and I ain’t gonna change it for nobody”.

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Jay C  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:55:49am

re: #175 Barefoot Grin

Wow, this guy’s quite the genius:

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Talk about your “tweets that didn’t age well…
Sure guys, harping on about Diane Feinstein sitting on the Ford accusations is a great defense of the nominee…..
As it has turned out, Chuck Grassley’s “swift investigation” has served mainly to bolster the allegations against Kavanaugh, make Feinstein look sagacious, open various cans-of-worms about their coordinated smear campaign, and generate vast amounts of negative publicity for the GOP.
Good work.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:59:40am

In today’s edition of The Washington Post is Dr. Ford’s story titled “I’ve Got this Terrible Secret.” I will try to put a link here for that article.

washingtonpost.com

If it ends up behind a paywall try to get it through google.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 8:59:47am

re: #197 Old Liberal

I live in farm country, not for much longer. I’m not getting any sense that rural voters are hanging anything on the orange menace or the republicans in congress. Many people here lack the ability for analysis beyond “if the libs are for it I’m agin it”. I think that the masters of propaganda have thoroughly tied the fact of climate change to “the libtards” and ergo no amount of facts or even personal experience will crack through that. Same with taxes and regulation and immigration and trade. These people have been like this for decades, I remember in the 1970’s farmers were on the radio saying they “want the government out of the ag market, and they want parity at 90%”. Parity was a dairy price support program run by the Federal Government. They aren’t stupid about everything, but they are willfully stupid about many things. Oh, and the egos these people have, apparently they are large and fragile, because once they are shown they are wrong, the entire discussion is over, for good. “That’s just how I feel, and I ain’t gonna change it for nobody”.

The end result of 40 years of the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine tuned up to 11.

You can’t engage in a battle of wits with people who have been thoroughly brainwashed by Republican propaganda.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:04:11am
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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:04:24am

re: #197 Old Liberal

Oh, and the egos these people have, apparently they are large and fragile, because once they are shown they are wrong, the entire discussion is over, for good. “That’s just how I feel, and I ain’t gonna change it for nobody”.

Emocons

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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:05:18am

re: #199 PhillyPretzel

In today’s edition of The Washington Post is Dr. Ford’s story titled “I’ve Got this Terrible Secret.” I will try to put a link here for that article.

washingtonpost.com

If it ends up behind a paywall try to get it through google.

This is an awful story. This woman is traumatized to the point where she is thinking about leaving the country if he ends up on the Supreme Court. And it cannot be helping that there are a lot of people, including Senators, who want to basically burn her at the stake as the witch who is going to ruin their victory.

Ford had already moved 3,000 miles away from the affluent Maryland suburbs where she says Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her at a house party — a charge he would emphatically deny. Suddenly, living in California didn’t seem far enough. Maybe another hemisphere would be. She went online to research other democracies where her family might settle, including New Zealand.

“She was like, ‘I can’t deal with this. If he becomes the nominee, then I’m moving to another country. I cannot live in this country if he’s in the Supreme Court,’ ” her husband said. “She wanted out.”

This is making me sick, sick, sick.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:06:06am

re: #203 mmmirele

You are not the only one. :(

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:07:57am
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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:08:42am

Professor Ford’s strategy of negotiating her appearance before Judiciary is beginning to bolster her case with people who weren’t paying attention early on.

As Kavanaugh’s vote hangs twisting in the wind, people are starting to dig in on the story in a number of places, and the depth and breadth of collusion between the committee and all kinds of bad actors is seeing daylight.

The longer they drag out the negotiations, the worse this whole nomination smells. And if the committee decides to say ‘Fuck it’ and hold the vote without hearing from Ford, they may as well fire up a chainsaw and just put it to their collective throats.

This is turning into a lose-lose for the GOP. I’m hoping Ford’s legal team can draw out the negotiations for most of next week. Kavanaugh’s nomination is taking on water. Another few days of bad news may just sink it altogether.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:09:32am

re: #203 mmmirele

And it cannot be helping that there are a lot of people, including Senators, who want to basically burn her at the stake as the witch who is going to ruin their victory.This is making me sick, sick, sick.

Look at all the Pulpit Pimping Preachers who want to put her on a cross, stick the crown of thorns on her head and pound the nails in.

Makes me hate Xtian Pulpit Pimps even more than I did before and more determined to kick them off of their tax-exempt gravy train.

TAX THE CHURCHES!!!!!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:17:03am

re: #205 MsJ

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I’ve had it with liars like Ventry.

I took the gloves off and gave it to that ass reminding him about Gym Jordan seducing teen wrestlers for his boss.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:17:19am

Meanwhile, the “values” voters blame women.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:19:29am

re: #209 jaunte

Of course. They always revert back to the Bible. That is where it all started and where they think it will end.

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Alephnaught  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:19:50am

re: #201 MsJ

[Embedded content: “This is your @GOP in action. Slimeballs Emery last one.”]

Slimeballs Emery sounds like a good comic-book mobster name!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:20:56am

re: #211 Alephnaught

Slimeballs Emery sounds like a good comic-book mobster name!

Or a supervillains right hand man.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:22:15am

re: #211 Alephnaught

Slimeballs Emery: He’s slippery AND rough.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:24:34am

re: #211 Alephnaught

Slimeballs Emery sounds like a good comic-book mobster name!

My swipe keyboard and autocorrect (along with no proofreading) gives us tweets like that.

Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:24:37am

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

Or a supervillains right hand man.

My new band.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:26:39am

The DFW area has been getting steady rain since yesterday evening (this isn’t counting the rain we’ve gotten off and on over the week). Last night, Plano got 2 inches in 30 minutes, and they had to shut down I-75 because it had 2 feet of water; there were lots of people stranded on the highway.

Lake Ray Hubbard gained 1.35 ft in the last 24 hours.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:28:57am

re: #209 jaunte

Meanwhile, the “values” voters blame women.

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Holy fuck.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:32:45am

re: #216 Belafon

Based on the area of lake Ray Hubbard: about 1,337,500,000 cubic feet of water.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:34:44am

re: #209 jaunte

Meanwhile, the “values” voters blame women.

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I’m not surprised because the brainwashing continues for Xtians every Sunday.

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Skip Intro  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:38:02am

re: #100 Single-handed sailor

California is one of the sane states.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:38:45am

Listening to NPR, there was a play made about American travelers being stranded in Canada, called “Come From Away.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:40:10am

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Why should I answer that? I do not oppose it. I posted it as a news story relevant to attitudes in Houston.

It was a rhetorical question.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:42:28am

re: #222 Colère Tueur de Lapin

It was a rhetorical question.

What if there were no rhetorical questions?

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Skip Intro  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:43:09am

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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“Mortgage Rates Near Five Year High!!” MAGA!!!

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Skip Intro  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:44:35am

re: #166 jaunte

Isn’t Gentry tied to Ed Whelan?

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Jay C  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:46:12am

re: #225 Skip Intro

Isn’t Gentry tied to Ed Whelan?

Don’t (didn’t??) they work at the same GOP smear shop / PR consulting firm?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:46:29am

re: #223 Eventual Carrion

What if there were no rhetorical questions?

Anyone’s guess.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:47:42am

re: #226 Jay C

Don’t (didn’t??) they work at the same GOP smear shop / PR consulting firm?

It doesn’t matter because they are all Republican Apparatchiks who put the Party above everything else.

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electrotek  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:50:41am

Came across this tweet who thinks that Roy Moore is better to fight the Islamic extremist threat from December:

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:51:34am

on kavanaugh and conservatism in general
it’s scathing

We know he did this, you know he did this, everyone knows he did this, and you couldn’t stop us anyway.

the skeleton key to understanding American conservatism is this: At bottom, it lacks absolutely any moral or ideological underpinning beyond the reactionary protection of moneyed white men—of their station, their wealth and power, and their egos. Its supposed ideas and abstractions are just a framework for spasmodic lashing-out against anything that can be interpreted as a threat to rich white dudes.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:51:53am

Ed Whelan is the president of the Ethics and & Public Policy Center.

Orwell would be impressed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:52:12am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Holy fuck.

This really surprises you at this point?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:54:50am

re: #232 Eclectic Cyborg

This really surprises you at this point?

That he would vocally blame an underaged sex assault attempt victim? Yeah a little tbh.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:55:36am

re: #230 dangerman

This is more accurate.

The skeleton key to understanding American conservatism is this: At bottom, it lacks absolutely any moral or ideological underpinning beyond the reactionary protection of moneyed fundamentalist christian white men—of their station, their wealth and power, and their egos. Its supposed ideas and abstractions are just a framework for spasmodic lashing-out against anything that can be interpreted as a threat to rich white dudes.

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SteelPH  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:55:40am

re: #232 Eclectic Cyborg

This really surprises you at this point?

Less surprise and more disgust, I’d wager.
Certainly how I feel. Fuck Pence.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:56:14am

re: #229 electrotek

Came across this tweet who thinks that Roy Moore is better to fight the Islamic extremist threat from December:

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What’s an Alabama Senator supposed to do about Texas jihad fans? Sounds like that’s you know the Republicans who govern that stste’s Job.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:58:27am

re: #235 SteelPH

Less surprise and more disgust, I’d wager.
Certainly how I feel. Fuck Pence.

Yes. He’s the VP and he’s slut shaming.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:58:41am

re: #229 electrotek

Came across this tweet who thinks that Roy Moore is better to fight the Islamic extremist threat from December:

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Looked at that tweet timeline and reported to Twitter because it’s what you expect to see from yet another Russian troll!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:59:23am

I’ll wait till I get home guys. I’ve been canvassing. Had a very surreal encounter to say the least. I’m ok. Just a little shaken up.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 9:59:50am

re: #238 Joe Bacon 🌹

Looked at that tweet timeline and reported to Twitter because it’s what you expect to see from yet another Russian troll!

Ahhh good catch.

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Broad With Sass  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:02:12am
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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:03:39am

The GOP has painted themselves into a corner here, big time.

If they fail to confirm Kavanaugh, the evangelicals threaten to stay home during the midterms.

And if they do confirm Kavanaugh, they stand to lose the lion’s share of the women’s vote, except maybe for those women in that CNN video.

And all the while, while Grassley tries mightily not to look like he’s utterly failing at pushing Kavanaugh through, Kavanaugh himself is, to borrow a term from the Watergate era, twisting in the wind.

And all this is happening on a weekend, when things are supposed to be quiet. Something’s gotta give here…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:03:44am

Morning/Afternoon Lizardim.

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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:05:23am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

I’ll wait till I get home guys. I’ve been canvassing. Had a very surreal encounter to say the least. I’m ok. Just a little shaken up.

Welcome to the canvassing siblinghood. We collect bizarre stories.

{{{Happy}}}

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:05:40am
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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:08:54am

re: #243 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning/Afternoon Lizardim.

You can have both? At the same time?

F’n time zones, how do they work?

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Nyet  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:09:09am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

Challenge accepted!

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:09:48am

Someone decided that Captain Marvel wasn’t smiling enough so he edited images. In response, Larson edited other Avenger posters to make the men smile: uproxx.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:11:53am

re: #244 wrenchwench

Welcome to the canvassing siblinghood. We collect bizarre stories.

{{{Happy}}}

Thanks WW. Weirdest thing ever and it involves Kavanaugh.

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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:17:01am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Thanks WW. Weirdest thing ever and it involves Kavanaugh.

Did he answer the door?

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:24:30am

re: #250 wrenchwench

Did he answer the door?

In a diaper?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:25:20am

re: #250 wrenchwench

Did he answer the door?

Ha, wait. I just got done having a conversation with a strong supporter who has known Wexton for years who thanked me for my efforts. Makes me feel better. I’ll tell the story later I promise.

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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:25:37am

re: #251 Eventual Carrion

In a diaper?

Now you’re approaching ‘weird enough’.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:26:13am

re: #251 Eventual Carrion

In a diaper?

lol it wasn’t Kavanaugh’s house but he probably does live in my district. And Comstock certainly knows him.

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Jay C  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:29:31am

re: #242 makeitstop

The GOP has painted themselves into a corner here, big time.

If they fail to confirm Kavanaugh, the evangelicals threaten to stay home during the midterms.

And if they do confirm Kavanaugh, they stand to lose the lion’s share of the women’s vote, except maybe for those women in that CNN video.

And all the while, while Grassley tries mightily not to look like he’s utterly failing at pushing Kavanaugh through, Kavanaugh himself is, to borrow a term from the Watergate era, twisting in the wind.

And all this is happening on a weekend, when things are supposed to be quiet. Something’s gotta give here…

Not just Grassley, I think: Mitch McConnell has basically staked the chances of maintaining his Majority status on holding the Senate GOP together to confirm Kavanaugh: with the Opposition emboldened (I think Judge K’s popularity is low enough that red-state Democrats won’t - now - have to worry about their negative votes having serious repercussions at the ballot box), he can’t afford any defections. I don’t think McTurtle - or ANY GOP Senators - give a major crap about public opinion, but the stakes have been raised considerably.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:30:01am

re: #251 Eventual Carrion

In a diaper?

Vit there, Ter that.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:32:38am

Someone told me once that Thomas Sowell was a conservative intellectual; maybe he has Ben Shapiro writing his tweets.

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:35:13am

re: #256 MsJ

Vit there, Ter that.

Took me a second…

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:36:44am

re: #258 makeitstop

Took me a second…

😉😁

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:37:11am

re: #184 Joe Bacon 🌹

Now I got to ask this…are there Male robots for Female customers?

You think we’d drive 30 minutes and park and pay $120 an hour for the same service we’d get from a $20 battery-operated appliance that fits in the nightstand drawer?

Women are smarter than that.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:38:57am

re: #173 PhillyPretzel

It looks like all heck is going to break loose. It will make Watergate look like a child’s play.

I’ll bring the wine.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:42:10am

re: #261 Unshaken Defiance

I’ll bring the wine.

Bourbon is in play from the wild north country.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:42:27am
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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:46:34am

re: #241 Broad With Sass

THAT was AMAZING! Excellent find.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:47:18am
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MsJ  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:50:20am

re: #263 jaunte

That whole thread me me cry. The extent is stunning. 😢😢😢😢😢

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:50:25am

re: #221 Belafon

Listening to NPR, there was a play made about American travelers being stranded in Canada, called “Come From Away.”

It won a Tony — it’s about the small town (pop. 8000) that on 9/11 suddenly had 38 planeloads of refugees.

Come From Away - Welcome to the Rock

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:52:40am

re: #265 jaunte

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- whose pursuit of power???????
- this ain’t a court. kavanaugh categorically stated he didn’t do it. The burden in this job interview is on him because he put it there

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:56:25am

The wife and I are out of here in about an hour, heading to Corona Park in Queens to see the final show of Paul Simon’s farewell tour.

I’m really curious to see the surprise guests that are all but certain to show up tonight. B. Joel? McCartney? Springsteen? That Art fella?

All are in the NYC area. At least a couple of them are bound to show up.

Should be some show.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2018 • 10:57:42am

re: #263 jaunte

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Men are miserable pigs
Men with power are…. dangerous. (not in any dangerman kind of way)

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:00:48am
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plansbandc  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:02:55am

Of course Ford is telling the truth. What is swept under the rug is, a guy who does this doesn’t just do it once. I have zero doubt there are many other victims.

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ipsos  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:03:46am

re: #270 makeitstop

The wife and I are out of here in about an hour, heading to Corona Park in Queens to see the final show of Paul Simon’s farewell tour.

I’m really curious to see the surprise guests that are all but certain to show up tonight. B. Joel? McCartney? Springsteen? That Art fella?

All are in the NYC area. At least a couple of them are bound to show up.

Should be some show.

Well hot damn… I’m on my way there, too!

LGF meetup?

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plansbandc  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:04:58am

re: #274 ipsos

I’m jealous!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:09:08am
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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:10:30am

re: #274 ipsos

Well hot damn… I’m on my way there, too!

LGF meetup?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:10:35am

re: #273 plansbandc

Of course Ford is telling the truth. What is swept under the rug is, a guy who does this doesn’t just do it once. I have zero doubt there are many other victims.

Not only at this point do 100% believe her, I’m legitimately curious about other women and Kavanaugh.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:11:19am

So does this language about the powers of the President:

he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint…Judges of the supreme Court….

explicitly, unambiguously mean that if the Senate advises “No”, he can’t still appoint them anyway? I know nobody’s ever done it, but tRump cares nothing about that.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:13:06am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Not only at this point do 100% believe her, I’m legitimately curious about other women and Kavanaugh.

I’m also curious about his basketball players and Kavanaugh.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:19:21am
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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:20:38am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:25:45am

I used to think cute animal pictures and smiley emojis were dumb and never posted them.

Now look at me.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:26:50am

re: #283 Charles Johnson

We all need a smile multiple times a day, just to keep our faces from freezing into the anger/horror/terror face.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:28:32am
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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:29:49am
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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:31:05am

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:31:27am
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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:33:02am

re: #286 jaunte

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The odds that Kavanaugh withdraws his name from consideration just went up astronomically.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:34:09am
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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:35:13am

re: #283 Charles Johnson

You do it for the karma obviously.

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ipsos  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:37:24am

re: #277 makeitstop

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:39:00am

re: #288 Charles Johnson

Grassley: “First-hand account? Are you sure you weren’t a doppelganger?”

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makeitstop  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:39:25am

re: #292 ipsos

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:39:28am

re: #273 plansbandc

Of course Ford is telling the truth. What is swept under the rug is, a guy who does this doesn’t just do it once. I have zero doubt there are many other victims.

im gonna repeat this from re: #230 dangerman

We know he did this, you know he did this, everyone knows he did this, and you couldn’t stop us anyway.

how ghoulish it has have become that we have to actually question, discuss, and consider how many more victims it would take to matter?

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:40:14am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:42:17am

re: #32 austin_blue

The sudden death of a dear friend just sucks. Steve doesn’t give a shit, of course, being dead, but I’m crying my eyes out for Becca, his wife, who is one of the sweetest women in the world. She was a career public school librarian.

Oh dammit. So sorry AB. Give SWMBO extra helpings of love and sympathy, for what it’s worth from us internet randos.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:42:44am

re: #279 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So does this language about the powers of the President:

explicitly, unambiguously mean that if the Senate advises “No”, he can’t still appoint them anyway? I know nobody’s ever done it, but tRump cares nothing about that.

i believe they have to consent - to agree, or it’s a no go
the president doesnt have that power

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:43:16am

Whelan did not respond to a request for comment on how he first learned of Ford’s identity.
washingtonpost.com

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:46:19am

im gonna go outside and cut some tree limbs. or something

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:50:06am

So the Post finds out Prof. Ford’s name, calls up the White House for comment, then goes to press with the name of Kavanaugh’s accuser before she’s had a chance to come forward. The White House immediately goes into attack mode, filtering the name through intermediaries in order to have operatives working on lines of attack in a matter of hours. And we’re supposed to believe that at no time did Kavanaugh know about this or the plans for attacking her.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:52:24am

re: #301 Targetpractice

So the Post finds out Prof. Ford’s name, calls up the White House for comment, then goes to press with the name of Kavanaugh’s accuser before she’s had a chance to come forward. The White House immediately goes into attack mode, filtering the name through intermediaries in order to have operatives working on lines of attack in a matter of hours. And we’re supposed to believe that at no time did Kavanaugh know about this or the plans for attacking her.

If I understand correctly, the White House acted before the Post published.

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ThomasLite  Sep 22, 2018 • 11:56:34am

re: #302 Belafon

If I understand correctly, the White House acted before the Post published.

That would agree with what Targetpractice posits; they’d go into attack mode right after being called for comment, rather than wait until the post published.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:01:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:03:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:10:18pm
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b.d.(true to form)  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:12:12pm

re: #305 Charles Johnson

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That’s why they want an “independent” questioner, so the Republican senators don’t ask questions that they think are perfectly ok, like:

OK Honey, would you describe yourself as, what the kids today are calling it, a slut?

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:13:53pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just finished reading some thoughts of dog in John Varley’s novel Irontown Blues:

Cory Doctorow review:
“…Sherlock, you see, is a very smart dog, and his neural implants let him talk to specialized canine interpreters, and one such person has gone to the trouble of transcribing Sherlock’s (hilarious, charming, delightful, weird) interpretations of the adventures of Christopher Bach, interleaving these accounts with Bach’s own affected, hard-boiled version of events. ‘”
boingboing.net

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:14:36pm

These fucking idiots are so tedious.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:16:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:18:11pm

Welp, the assholes are out in force today.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:18:15pm

re: #307 b.d.(true to form)

That’s why they want an “independent” questioner, so the Republican senators don’t ask questions that they think are perfectly ok, like:

OK Honey, would you describe yourself as, what the kids today are calling it, a slut?

It was bad enough thinking they would get Ann Coulter to do their dirty work but if they go full nuts with Michelle Bachman..,

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:19:56pm
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CongoJack  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:20:10pm

re: #311 Charles Johnson

Welp, the assholes are out in force today.

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YouTube

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b.d.(true to form)  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:21:20pm

re: #312 Joe Bacon 🌹

It was bad enough thinking they would get Ann Coulter to do their dirty work but if they go full nuts with Michelle Bachman..,

Don’t you think, considering all the complaining that you have done about this, that you should have done the right thing and let Brett finish?

Make the Senators ask the questions, it’s their job.

I dare ya.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:24:24pm
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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:24:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:25:56pm

re: #317 jaunte

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It’s all so fucking disgusting.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:27:01pm
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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:30:00pm

re: #270 makeitstop

Gaaaaa, what I’d give to be an unknown rhythm.guitar hiding in the woodwork there. Enjoy!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:32:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:34:28pm

Okay, okay guys I promised my Canvass story.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:35:47pm

re: #319 jaunte

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The Honorable Judge Bro. // That’s what Kavanaugh is. He’s an overgrown Bro who flaunted the law underaged and now acts like he’s this moralist. I know people like this too damn well.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:37:24pm
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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:39:03pm

Charlie Pierce on the NYT big deal about Rod Rosenstein:

On the whole, The New York Times is an essential publication. On occasion, however, it gets played like a $5 fiddle. Friday was one of those days.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:39:47pm

re: #325 retired cynic

More:

If you were a mendacious, criminal president* with a lot to cover up and the walls closing in from all sides, isn’t this exactly the story you’d want out there as an excuse to fire Rod Rosenstein and then appoint someone who would fire Robert Mueller? Isn’t this exactly the kind of story that you would want out there in order to superheat the boilers of paranoia that drive your base, especially on the same day that you walked back your promise to feed the base declassified parchments from the Illuminati who run The Deep State? Isn’t this exactly the kind of story you would want out there on the day the news breaks that your old personal lawyer is talking to Mueller’s people about your campaign, and Russia, and god alone knows what else?

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:40:04pm

re: #322 HappyWarrior

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stpaulbear  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:40:08pm

re: #323 HappyWarrior

The Honorable Judge Bro. // That’s what Kavanaugh is. He’s an overgrown Bro who flaunted the law underaged and now acts like he’s this moralist. I know people like this too damn well.

And he also a guy who will turn his back on the father of a child killed in a mass shooting. This seems like it was already months ago.

Watch Parkland Father Approach Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh | NBC News

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:41:06pm

re: #301 Targetpractice

So the Post finds out Prof. Ford’s name, calls up the White House for comment, then goes to press with the name of Kavanaugh’s accuser before she’s had a chance to come forward. The White House immediately goes into attack mode, filtering the name through intermediaries in order to have operatives working on lines of attack in a matter of hours. And we’re supposed to believe that at no time did Kavanaugh know about this or the plans for attacking her.

If they didn’t talk to kavanaugh it’s one hell of an assumption that “attack” is the right thing to do

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:41:18pm

re: #328 stpaulbear

That look clearly says “I don’t think you’re someone who can advance my interests, so we’re done here.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:41:40pm

re: #327 jaunte

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:43:04pm

re: #331 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:43:08pm

re: #328 stpaulbear

And he also a guy who will turn his back on the father of a child killed in a mass shooting. This seems like it was already months ago.

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Yep and Ben Willies was still telling us that he was a class act. The only people I’ve really seen say that Kavanaugh is a good guy are people who are part of the same old boys club as he is. Certainly not families of murder victims like Fred Guttenberg, sexual assault victims like Dr. Ford, or anyone else.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:43:11pm

re: #307 b.d.(true to form)

That’s why they want an “independent” questioner, so the Republican senators don’t ask questions that they think are perfectly ok, like:

OK Honey, would you describe yourself as, what the kids today are calling it, a slut?

I think they want the same questions asked, they just think it’ll sound nicer in a lady voice.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:44:57pm

A beautiful NASA photo from a couple of days ago:

apod.nasa.gov

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:45:38pm

re: #305 Charles Johnson

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She knows this going in
Anita hill didn’t and I think expected better

She has the benefit of Anita hills experience

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:46:40pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:48:14pm
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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:48:37pm

re: #313 jaunte

Considering what yes meant at Yale, they’re not entirely sure how to apply it in this situation.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:49:44pm

re: #332 jaunte

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:50:44pm

re: #317 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:51:21pm

re: #338 Charles Johnson

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Dude he also paraphrased The Clash talking about Cruz. Beto is awesome. I really hope he beats Cruz and runs for POTUS one day.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:51:44pm

re: #341 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s a huge difference between accusation and CREDIBLE accusation.

Exactly. These fucking assholes.

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:53:38pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson
@Green_Footballs
Even when everybody knows they’re pretending, they just get that bovine look in their eyes and act really dense. The “I AM STOOPID” defense.

theweek.com
The myth of the male bumbler

There’s a reason for this plague of know-nothings: The bumbler’s perpetual amazement exonerates him. Incompetence is less damaging than malice. And men — particularly powerful men — use that loophole like corporations use off-shore accounts. The bumbler takes one of our culture’s most muscular myths — that men are clueless — and weaponizes it into an alibi.

Breaking that alibi means dissecting that myth. The line on men has been that they’re the only gender qualified to hold important jobs and too incompetent to be responsible for their conduct.

(snip)

If you’ve noticed a tendency to treat girls — like the 14-year-old whom now-Senate candidate Roy Moore allegedly picked up at her custody hearing — as knowing adults and men in their 30s — like Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos and Donald Trump, Jr. — as erring youngsters, large sons and “coffee boys,” this is why. Our culture makes that script available.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:54:10pm

Thanks guys for listening to my story. I was just so taken aback by all that and honestly a little shaken. I’ll be back canvassing next week though.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:57:41pm

re: #332 jaunte

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:58:42pm

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Yep and Ben Willies was still telling us that he was a class act. The only people I’ve really seen say that Kavanaugh is a good guy are people who are part of the same old boys club as he is. Certainly not families of murder victims like Fred Guttenberg, sexual assault victims like Dr. Ford, or anyone else.

Wittes did have a change of position ( heart? ) And suggest he resign I think yesterday

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:59:24pm

Wow, it takes a lot of effort to misinterpret a tweet this drastically…

“Apologism?” wtf

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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2018 • 12:59:29pm

re: #322 HappyWarrior

Okay, okay guys I promised my Canvass story.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:00:02pm

re: #348 Charles Johnson

Wut.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:00:35pm

re: #340 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:01:00pm

re: #347 dangerman

Wittes did have a change of position ( heart? ) And suggest he resign I think yesterday

Yes, I do give Ben credit for saying that per your article. I guess I shouldn’t be too hard but honestly it would be hard for me to talk if a friend was nominated for SCOTUS and I knew that friends strengths and weaknesses and then later that same friend was accused of what Kavanaugh has been. I don’t think Ben Wittes is a bad guy but I do think he was blinded by his frienship with Kavanaugh in his defense of him regarding the perjury and partisanship. Wittes has to his credit not dismissed but rather as you say that Kavanaugh should withdraw his nomination.

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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:02:19pm

re: #348 Charles Johnson

Wow, it takes a lot of effort to misinterpret a tweet this drastically…

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“Apologism?” wtf

It’s one thing when they don’t read the link. When they don’t read the tweet, *shakes head*, block time.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:02:47pm

re: #351 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:03:07pm

re: #349 wrenchwench

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:06:23pm

I think it’s hard to separate our friendships with what we know is right at times. Or family. We saw that ad for Gosar’s opponent in Arizona. I can’t imagine the pain of someone I love liek a brother, sibling, or whatever running for office and being so fundamentally wrong for it and having to resort to cutting an ad for his opponent but the Gosar siblings from what I know about him made a comendible decision.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:07:09pm

re: #348 Charles Johnson

Wow, it takes a lot of effort to misinterpret a tweet this drastically…

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“Apologism?” wtf

It kind of looks like he didn’t finish reading the tweet. If you had only written “Republicans are going to be vicious, cruel and misogynistic to Prof. Ford because they can’t help themselves, it’s who they are,” it kind of looks like you’re giving them a pass. You don’t in the rest of it, but I think that’s what stopped him. At times I really get tired of “it’s who they are, we just have to deal with it” and have fallen prey to wanting to respond to that: “no we don’t have to deal with this, they have to change.”

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:07:59pm

re: #356 HappyWarrior

Imagine being Laura Ingraham’s brother.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:09:55pm

re: #358 Belafon

Imagine being Laura Ingraham’s brother.

I know. I read that article. Takes a lot of guts to do what he does.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:09:55pm

re: #354 dangerman

I really wanted to react to morel high ground

Generally, they prefer low ground.

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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:11:36pm

re: #360 Blind Frog Belly White

Generally, they prefer low ground high tide.

FTFthem

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:11:59pm

re: #357 Belafon

It kind of looks like he didn’t finish reading the tweet. If you had only written “Republicans are going to be vicious, cruel and misogynistic to Prof. Ford because they can’t help themselves, it’s who they are,” it kind of looks like you’re giving them a pass. You don’t in the rest of it, but I think that’s what stopped him. At times I really get tired of “it’s who they are, we just have to deal with it” and have fallen prey to wanting to respond to that: “no we don’t have to deal with this, they have to change.”

They need to change. And another thing I don’t like hearing is “We should have just let the South secede anyhow.”

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ckkatz  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:17:44pm

re: #322 HappyWarrior

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:19:47pm

re: #357 Belafon

My point was that even in a situation like this where it would politically benefit Republicans to at least try to conceal their inner cavemen, they won’t be able to stop themselves from revealing their true vicious, cruel and misogynistic natures.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:35:13pm

re: #364 Charles Johnson

My point was that even in a situation like this where it would politically benefit Republicans to at least try to conceal their inner cavemen, they won’t be able to stop themselves from revealing their true vicious, cruel and misogynistic natures.

I totally agree.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 22, 2018 • 1:38:17pm

re: #363 ckkatz

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 22, 2018 • 2:00:44pm

re: #357 Belafon

It kind of looks like he didn’t finish reading the tweet. If you had only written “Republicans are going to be vicious, cruel and misogynistic to Prof. Ford because they can’t help themselves, it’s who they are,” it kind of looks like you’re giving them a pass. You don’t in the rest of it, but I think that’s what stopped him. At times I really get tired of “it’s who they are, we just have to deal with it” and have fallen prey to wanting to respond to that: “no we don’t have to deal with this, they have to change.”

Not to go all Psychobabble, but one thing I learned in therapy is that you can’t make someone else change, especially if they see no reason to.

We had a couple ‘teachable moments’ over the past few decades, where there was a brief period of uncertainty on the Right, that maybe some of the things they believed weren’t actually true. In each case, something happened that allowed them to slip back into certainty again.

Take for example the 2008-2009 financial crisis. For a brief period, the Right was on the verge of understanding that the Free Market isn’t actually self-policing. Then some bright boy on the right wrote a column blaming the whole thing on a bill signed by Carter in the 1970s that required banks that took in deposits in poor, largely minority neighborhoods to make loans there, too. The claim was that banks were forced by this law to write mortgages to undeserving PoCs, and that’s why the banks failed.

It was the purest horseshit, because almost none of the banks that wrote the bad loans were affected by that law. But it allowed the Right to fix blame on government and black and brown people, getting loans they shouldn’t have, and the poor banks having no choice but to write bad mortgages. Self-examination around the lack of self-policing by the Free Market stopped in its tracks.

Or take the GOP’s ‘post mortem’ after the 2012 loss, that they needed to appeal to somebody other than uneducated white men. That lasted only a short time. In 2014, the GOP consolidated its hold on the Congress, and in 2016, there were enough angry white men to elect Donald Trump.

So, the GOP SHOULD change, but they don’t want to, and we can’t make them. The only thing we can do is deal with it, in this case by shining a light on who they really are, and getting out and fucking VOTING!!! We do that, we can reduce the GOP to a smoking crater.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2018 • 2:30:26pm

re: #340 HappyWarrior

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 22, 2018 • 4:29:45pm

re: #345 HappyWarrior

Thanks guys for listening to my story. I was just so taken aback by all that and honestly a little shaken. I’ll be back canvassing next week though.

Canvass: carry on, wayward son.


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