The Bob Cesca Podcast: Count of Monte Crisco

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Count Of Monte Crisco — NSFW; Jody Hamilton from the Stephanie Miller Show is here; More radio silence from Fox News and Drudge; Trump confessed to obstruction again; Trump’s plot to hand over a US Resident to Turkey; Melania goes to war; Fox News and the CNN lawsuit against Trump; Trump and voter fraud; Matt Whitaker’s Man Toilet; and so much more.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:20:08pm

CL’d the last thread.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:22:28pm
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freetoken  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:24:31pm
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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:28:40pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:33:01pm

Just when you thought Dipshit D’Stupid couldn’t get any stupider, he outstupids himself.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:33:08pm

WHEEEEEE(ze)!!!!

We’re now purple. Oh, joy. Oh, rapture.

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:35:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:36:03pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:36:10pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

Just when you thought Dipshit D’Stupid couldn’t get any stupider, he outstupids himself.

Two words, D’inesh D’ouchecanoe: SOUTHERN STRATEGY. Figure it out. (Hint: 100 years passed between the KKK and the Southern Strategy. 50 years have passed since then.)

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Jack Burton  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:36:51pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

Just when you thought Dipshit D’Stupid couldn’t get any stupider, he outstupids himself.

How many times in the past month has he parroted this same crap? As far as I can tell, “Democrats are racists. Republicans freed the slaves.” is the only thing he ever posts about. He’s got it on loop.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:38:19pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

Just when you thought Dipshit D’Stupid couldn’t get any stupider, he outstupids himself.

and the Klan leaders now are Republicans or something else not Democratic

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:38:44pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re back to this bulkshit?

Again?

The F-35 isn’t a superplane. It’s a compromised plane that’s overbudget, isn’t fully capable for the missions it’s designed to do, and can’t replace the planes it’s replacing for all missions.

And the F-22 is even more expensive.

Trump doesn’t know or care about any of that. He’s just riffing on random things he hears or reads on Twitter.

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gocart mozart  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:39:48pm

When Cernovich thinks you’r eout of line

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can't think of a decent username  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:40:49pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

Just when you thought Dipshit D’Stupid couldn’t get any stupider, he outstupids himself.

“HAW HAW, the KKK are Democrats!”
“So we should definitely bar Klan members from voting, serving as government officials, or being media pundits, right?”
“STOP PERSECUTING OUR BASE!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:41:49pm

re: #10 Jack Burton

How many times in the past month has he parroted this same crap? As far as I can tell, “Democrats are racists. Republicans freed the slaves.” is the only thing he ever posts about. He’s got it on loop.

Every time he posts this stupid bullshit, he gets pwn3d by Kevin Kruse and other actual real historians. But he doesn’t care, he keeps repeating it to reinforce his dumbass cult followers.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:41:51pm

re: #2 MsJ

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:42:54pm

re: #15 The Vicious Babushka

Every time he posts this stupid bullshit, he gets pwn3d by Kevin Kruse and other actual real historians. But he doesn’t care, he keeps repeating it to reinforce his dumbass cult followers.

Maybe he gets $1000 in Wingnut Welfare money every time he tweets that…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:44:11pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

Just when you thought Dipshit D’Stupid couldn’t get any stupider, he outstupids himself.

You support a man, Donald Trump who has gotten praise from David Duke. David Duke hated Obama, the Clintons, Biden, but he likes Trump, but yeah we get it, Kamala’s stupid because she doesn’t act like political parties are set in stone forever like you and the eevn stupider people that think you’re smart.

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:44:24pm

re: #16 bd(soros funded)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:45:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:45:46pm

re: #15 The Vicious Babushka

Every time he posts this stupid bullshit, he gets pwn3d by Kevin Kruse and other actual real historians. But he doesn’t care, he keeps repeating it to reinforce his dumbass cult followers.

He’s an idiot but the even bigger idiots are people who actually think this is a legitimate argument.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:46:18pm

re: #13 gocart mozart

When Cernovich thinks you’r eout of line

But he deleted it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:46:26pm

re: #20 GlutenFreeJesus

Maybe someone like your sorry ass shouldn’t be in office, Ms. Bull Connor.

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Archangelus  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:47:25pm

Too much?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:48:02pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:49:42pm

re: #24 Archangelus

Too much?

Subtext of D’Souza’s tweets: “Black people are all too stupid to realize the Dems are the real racists because of something that largely ended 50 years ago.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:49:50pm

re: #24 Archangelus

Too much?

Nah, he deserves all the derision he can get.

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gocart mozart  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:50:04pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:50:12pm

re: #24 Archangelus

Too much?

Not enough.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:51:43pm

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

Subtext of D’Souza’s tweets: “Black people are all too stupid to realize the Dems are the real racists because of something that largely ended 50 years ago.”

I appreciate the many Republicans that supported Civil Rights legislation in the 60’s but the GOP showed that it wasn’t an important issue to them when they nominated Goldwater in ‘64. And it’s really been down hlil ever since. I’ll give Nixon in 1960 credit, he was decent on the issue and quite honestly the most decent on the issue in years for a Republican candidate but he got butthurt that so many prominent African-Americans supported Kennedy over him and that’s actually part of why we have the Southern Strategy.

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Archangelus  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:51:44pm

re: #29 The Vicious Babushka

Not enough.

In my defense, I did have room for just two more letters…

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:52:16pm

JFC

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:52:21pm

re: #28 gocart mozart

Why do I suspect Eddie has a tied up woman in his mom’s basement?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:53:22pm

re: #20 GlutenFreeJesus

I really wish Espy could beat her but that’s a steep mountain in such a deeply red state. She’s a disgusting human being.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:54:25pm

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

I really wish Espy could beat her but that’s a steep mountain in such a deeply red state. She’s a disgusting human being.

Yep even with Roy Moore’s creepiness, he still lost a tight one. I’m afraid Cindy’s not losing this one unless they find her with a white hood and dead child but that would merely make it a toss up.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:54:29pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

FUCK KEN BLACKWELL.

That is all.

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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:54:31pm

re: #28 gocart mozart

Why does this ass have a blue check mark? Who the hell is he?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:56:26pm

re: #24 Archangelus

Ask him which party modern day KKK members, White Supremacists and Neo Nazis support? Hint hint: it’s not the Democratic party.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:57:12pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

And the dead child would have to be white, of course.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:57:20pm

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

Subtext of D’Souza’s tweets: “Black people are all too stupid to realize the Dems are the real racists because of something that largely ended 50 years ago.”

Trump voters are too stupid to realize the change in parties. My brother — who should know better — tried to discuss one of Dinesh’s movies from a few years ago. He said that it pointed out Al Gore’s father voted against the 1964 CRA. And I pointed out that was over 50 years ago — before the great political realignment. In any case, it had nothing to do with Al Gore’s voting record. But my brother still seems to believe that the Dems are the real racists. There is something in the Texas drinking water that turns previously somewhat same people into raving GOP lunatics.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:57:56pm

re: #38 Patricia Kayden

Ask him which party modern day KKK members, White Supremacists and Neo Nazis support? Hint hint: it’s not the Democratic party.

Won’t get an answer on that. Professor Kruse has thoroughly educated him and he continues to push this shit. This crap is purely for the people who are also subscribers to the Nazis were socialist because of socialist being in their name without even studying Nazi ideology and economics which I will concede were far from laissez-faire capitalist but far from socialist either.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:58:13pm

re: #28 gocart mozart

Reported for potential child abuse

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:59:25pm

re: #40 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump voters are too stupid to realize the change in parties. My brother — who should know better — tried to discuss one of Dinesh’s movies from a few years ago. He said that it pointed out Al Gore’s father voted against the 1964 CRA. And I pointed out that was over 50 years ago — before the great political realignment. In any case, it had nothing to do with Al Gore’s voting record. But my brother still seems to believe that the Dems are the real racists. There is something in the Texas drinking water that turns previously somewhat same people into raving GOP lunatics.

Al Gore’s father also didn’t sign the Southern Manifesto. Strom Thurmond against the CRA 1964 and had a then Republican Majority Leader say it would have been better off had he won in 1948 and we wouldn’t have had all “these problems.” Not Dewey but Thurmond, a man who ran a blatantly white supremacist campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:59:38pm

re: #39 Patricia Kayden

And the dead child would have to be white, of course.

Of course.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:01:20pm

re: #40 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump voters are too stupid to realize the change in parties. My brother — who should know better — tried to discuss one of Dinesh’s movies from a few years ago. He said that it pointed out Al Gore’s father voted against the 1964 CRA. And I pointed out that was over 50 years ago — before the great political realignment. In any case, it had nothing to do with Al Gore’s voting record. But my brother still seems to believe that the Dems are the real racists. There is something in the Texas drinking water that turns previously somewhat same people into raving GOP lunatics.

They want to call themselves the Party Of Lincoln, while believing Lincoln was a tyrant who unconstitutionally attacked the states who seceded, which they only did to prove the entirely academic point that they could - nothing to do with slavery! Except they were Democrats, so they totally were all about slavery, and we should leave all the monuments to them up, because they were all about freedom.

Or something….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:05:30pm

re: #45 Blind Frog Belly White

They want to call themselves the Party Of Lincoln, while believing Lincoln was a tyrant who unconstitutionally attacked the states who seceded, which they only did to prove the entirely academic point that they could - nothing to do with slavery! Except they were Democrats, so they totally were all about slavery, and we should leave all the monuments to them up, because they were all about freedom.

Or something….

They want to accuse us of destroying “southern heritage” while at the same time claiming the CSA cause was ours. I’ll gladly admit much of the Democratic Party’s history until FDR was pretty bad all and all and even during FDR it was pretty bad. The Democratic Party started becoming what it is now in the 60’s which is consequently when a lot of the White Southerners started leaving it on a national level.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:06:38pm

re: #39 Patricia Kayden

And the dead child would have to be white, of course.

And she’d lose only if the kids was KKK… Because the racists would not abide losing one of their own.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:06:59pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

Just when you thought Dipshit D’Stupid couldn’t get any stupider, he outstupids himself.

I wonder if a convicted felon knows about something called Southern Strategy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:08:27pm

I’ll let Dinesh in another secret about Southern Dems throughout the ages though. They were staunch conservatives. They opposed hallmarks of liberalism like the New Deal, Fair Deal, and Great Society especially the latter since it supported African-Americans. They also were staunchly anti-union. As you all know, my father’s father worked for the NLRB. I have an article from the mid 60’s where he’s quoted frequently explaining that unionization was at a slower rate in the Southern states versus the Northern states.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:08:48pm

re: #48 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I wonder if a convicted felon knows about something called Southern Strategy.

He knows but his readers don’t.

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TedStriker  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:10:06pm

re: #2 MsJ

I would say “Good!”, but the man still controls the US nuclear arsenal, so that’s a point of trepidation right there.

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:10:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:11:08pm

More on this, which was mentioned downstairs:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:11:09pm

I actually find the evolution of parties fascinating so it’s something I’ve read quite a bit on which is why it’s easy for me to immediately refute this shit when D’Sousa, Kirk, or whatever intellectual lightweight posts it. The pathetic thing about Dinesh is he wants to hold modern Democrats responsible for the 1860’s, an event in which no one living was alive for or even parents most likely but people like him also want us to ignore the race baiting shit that Reagan did. Nixon started it with the Southern Strategy but Reagan perfected it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:13:47pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

That would actually gain her votes.

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Archangelus  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:14:08pm

He deleted it of course…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:14:38pm

re: #55 GlutenFreeJesus

That would actually gain her votes.

I dunno. I like to thikn that Roy Moore being a creep bothered at least some white Alabamans.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:15:16pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

More on this, which was mentioned downstairs:

We need a Brooks Brothers riot of our own. It is wrong not to count votes of those who legitimately cast them. I hope that the Democrats do not concede on this and fight to the Supreme Court if necessary.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:17:55pm

re: #48 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I wonder if a convicted felon knows about something called Southern Strategy.

Dimwit D’Stupids is a Southern Strategy Denier.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:18:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:19:22pm

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

Dimwit D’Stupids is a Southern Strategy Denier.

So is Limbaugh. I remember when Ken Mehlman actually mildly apologized for it in 2004, Rushbo lost his shit.

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:20:15pm

re: #56 Archangelus

He’s a goddamned liar who creeps on women.

His attack on AOC was meant to somehow criticize her as a hypocrite who has nice clothes but couldn’t pay for housing.

As if you can’t get nice clothes and still be unable to afford housing in one of the most expensive markets in nation.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:21:22pm

re: #62 lawhawk

He’s a goddamned liar who creeps on women.

His attack on AOC was meant to somehow criticize her as a hypocrite who has nice clothes but couldn’t pay for housing.

As if you can’t get nice clothes and still be unable to afford housing in one of the most expensive markets in nation.

She really has become their new favorite punching bag. Just watch what they’ll do if she ever gets married and the wedding looks nice.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:21:34pm

re: #51 TedStriker

I would say “Good!”, but the man still controls the US nuclear arsenal, so that’s a point of trepidation right there.

I know it is a long shot hope, but I would love to see an indictment released tomorrow by Mueller that names someone that will really bug Trump.

It might be that thin mint to make him blow up to the point it is obvious he needs to be ejected.

Sure if he should really get in a bad state, they may tried to hide it, but as much he likes to blab in public that would be hard to do.

His Trumpian backers will demand to hear from their man.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:24:13pm

re: #56 Archangelus

He deleted it of course…

Eddie Scarry

@eScarry
* 34m
ATTN! I posted a tweet earlier suggesting the incoming congresswoman looked well put together — ELEGANT even — despite suggestions she’s struggled. The tweet was taken as something else, so I’ve deleted it!

It is especially irritating for a man to suggest that a woman has to spend a fortune to look elegant or professional. As others here have pointed out, it is possible to acquire a professional wardrobe without spending big money. It’s a lot cheaper if you avoid name brands especially if you purchase items that are selling at deep discount because they are prior year styles.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:24:31pm

re: #62 lawhawk

He’s a goddamned liar who creeps on women.

His attack on AOC was meant to somehow criticize her as a hypocrite who has nice clothes but couldn’t pay for housing.

As if you can’t get nice clothes and still be unable to afford housing in one of the most expensive markets in nation.

I’ll bet Alexandria enjoys avocado toast now and then.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:26:23pm

re: #66 The Vicious Babushka

I’ll bet Alexandria enjoys avocado toast now and then.

I’ve seen people mention avocado toast a few times now—is avocado toast the new granite countertops?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:27:56pm

re: #67 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve seen people mention avocado toast a few times now—is avocado toast the new granite countertops?

Joke based off one of those patronizing articles about millennials and why we aren’t home owners. Apparently we spend too much money on avocado toast.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:29:26pm

I refused to do the click thru but saved the picture

Meat Coat
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:31:33pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

Joke based off one of those patronizing articles about millennials and why we aren’t home owners. Apparently we spend too much money on avocado toast.

Boy, that would be a lot of avocado toast.

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Unabogie  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:31:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:32:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:33:04pm

re: #70 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Boy, that would be a lot of avocado toast.

I make poor man’s avocado toast using guacamole. But TBH I prefer avocados as a part of a breakfast rather than the main course in omelets, burritos, scrambles, etc.

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Archangelus  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:33:23pm

re: #71 Unabogie

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* Points up *

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wrenchwench  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:34:13pm

re: #67 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve seen people mention avocado toast a few times now—is avocado toast the new granite countertops?

It’s much easier to fake granite.

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Archangelus  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:34:14pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Thanks Charles, was wondering whether or not to start watching it.

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gocart mozart  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:37:28pm

re: #37 Skip Intro

heavy.com

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:37:30pm

The low temp tonight will be the same (c32) in Denver, NYC, and Lower Alabama.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:37:34pm

Venting time: I am tired of those who have problems with powerful women, especially women in politics. It seems that misogyny afflicts men of all races, parties, and ideologies. Nancy deserves the position of Speaker. I really wonder how much the Republicans are involved in trying to unseat her — or if this is an exclusively home-grown insurrection.

Many Caucasians have a problem with the Democratic party because it looks like America, rather than a corporate board room. That may be a hidden subtext for many of those who are working to undermine Pelosi, even those who are Democrats.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:39:40pm

re: #79 Hecuba’s daughter

I agree. Nancy would make a great Speaker of the House. And you are right I think men are threatened by it.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:42:37pm

re: #80 PhillyPretzel

I agree. Nancy would make a great Speaker of the House. And you are right I think men are threatened by it.

And we get to save on all that old letterhead.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:43:49pm

I’m looking at you, Ant.

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plansbandc  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:44:49pm

re: #79 Hecuba’s daughter

When I was a young idealist in Boulder, I was shocked how misogynistic a lot of the incredibly lib men I met there were. I agree. Misogyny crosses all ideologies.

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gocart mozart  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:44:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:45:01pm

re: #79 Hecuba’s daughter

Venting time: I am tired of those who have problems with powerful women, especially women in politics. It seems that misogyny afflicts men of all races, parties, and ideologies. Nancy deserves the position of Speaker. I really wonder how much the Republicans are involved in trying to unseat her — or if this is an exclusively home-grown insurrection.

Many Caucasians have a problem with the Democratic party because it looks like America, rather than a corporate board room. That may be a hidden subtext for many of those who are working to undermine Pelosi, even those who are Democrats.

Oh definitely. And I think a lot of even white Democrats don’t want to hear about racial issues because it’s uncomfortable ot them.

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gocart mozart  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:45:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:47:17pm

re: #83 plansbandc

When I was a young idealist in Boulder, I was shocked how misogynistic a lot of the incredibly lib men I met there were. I agree. Misogyny crosses all ideologies.

I have to admit that I was blind to a lot of it before 2016 but a lot of the crap that HRC and now Pelosi and AOC and others are taking really has woken me up. It’s why I’m not only staunchly pro-choice, I’m staunchly I have no place as a man to tell a woman about abortion at all. I’m pro-choice but it’s not my choice ultimately.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:48:03pm

Well OC, looks like you flipped the 45th.

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Interesting Times  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:49:21pm

Bwaha:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:50:08pm

Our own Klys also I have to give credit for pointing out things I never thought about as a man. I have to admit, I ragged on HRC a little for merely being her husband’s wife while ignoring her own accomplishments as a private attorney, Arkansas’s FL and FLOTUS, Senator, and SoS. I do feel that SoS made her a better candidate and she would have been a better President had she won this time instead of 2008.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:51:42pm

A friend put the sexual harassment stuff in a good way I think for straight men to understand, what if a co-worker you felt no attraction to especially an older superior and or a male one kept on telling you how hot you were and that the two of you should date, if that hypothetical made you uncomfortable, congratulations you understand why Matt Lauer, Charlie Rose, and others needed to go.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:53:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:53:30pm

What another good friend is trying to do with a friend of ours is try to point out to him the racism and sexism that exists within the quote nerd community fandom. Obviously not all nerds are sexists or bigots but it is there unfortunately.. Just like sports which i love has a lot of ugly racism, sexism, and homophobia.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:54:23pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

I’m never going to forgive the part of the country that elected him because he’s caused long term damage that even if we were to impeach him won’t get rid of for the very simple reason a large amount of the population thinks this is acceptable talk from POTUS.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:55:50pm
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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:56:38pm

re: #86 gocart mozart

She’s pretty savvy. She knows how to handle assholes, she’s from New York. :)

She won’t let these guys get to her. I expect they’ll lay off her after she owns them a few times.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:57:36pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

I’ve always found the intersection between the militias’ very anti government posture with THEY MUST FOLLOW THE LAW. Being undocumented is a lot less serious than breaking federal laws on firearms, guys.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:57:57pm

re: #96 makeitstop

She’s pretty savvy. She knows how to handle assholes, she’s from New York. :)

She won’t let these guys get to her. I expect they’ll lay off her after she owns them a few times.

They’ll just move on to another punching bag.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:58:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:01:29pm

The most annoying shit I see AOC’s way is about her economic views. The whole “Stupid girl you don’t understand capitalism.” Except she does. She may not agree with your vision of capitalism but AOC isn’t someone who just heard “democratic socialism, that sounds kewl”, she’s someone who studied it extensively. Now you can argue whether she’s practical enough but calling her unintelligent is bs.

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William Lewis  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:03:20pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Brewster Buffalo did well enough for Finland too. Didn’t change anything about what a death trap it was against the A6M2 in the Pacific.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:04:05pm

So I kept getting “Firefox can’t connect to the server at wonkette.com”. I tried downforeveryoneorjustme.com and they said it was just me. Come to find out, I have to turn off my VPN. Dafuq?

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gocart mozart  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:08:32pm
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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:12:21pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

They’ll just move on to another punching bag.

I like that she’s laying down the law straight away and responding to assholes like Scarry on her own terms.

I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see Pelosi take AOC under her wing.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:13:14pm

re: #104 makeitstop

I like that she’s laying down the law straight away and responding to assholes like Scarry on her own terms.

I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see Pelosi take AOC under her wing.

That would be good for her. She can learn more about politics from Pelosi than Bernie. And yeah I like that she stands up and defends herself. She did against Ben Shapiro too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:14:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:15:50pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Aww poor baby Chris.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:16:12pm

No surprise to anyone who’s spent a lot of time in northeastern small towns.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:18:17pm

re: #108 Blind Frog Belly White

No surprise to anyone who’s spent a lot of time in northeastern small towns.

Right. It’s more that we have red counties and blue counties.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:18:59pm

Boom!

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:21:06pm

re: #96 makeitstop

She’s pretty savvy. She knows how to handle assholes, she’s from New York. :)

She won’t let these guys get to her. I expect they’ll lay off her after she owns them a few times.

She’s has Puerto Rican roots. Hell yeah she can take care of herself.

My now passed best friends wife is Puerto Rican and between her and another woman I knew, I’d say you don’t want to get them mad. And, they are not at all afraid to express it.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:21:30pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

WHEEEEEE(ze)!!!!

[Embedded content]

We’re now purple. Oh, joy. Oh, rapture.

Yeah, I really want to breathe some air I can’t see. Pray for rain….

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:23:54pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:26:55pm

re: #108 Blind Frog Belly White

No surprise to anyone who’s spent a lot of time in northeastern small towns.

You can count Ohio in on that bit about northern rurals/small towns starting to vote like Southern rurals/small towns.

And one problem about Ohio, we have a million small towns.

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gocart mozart  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:29:33pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:30:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:32:09pm

re: #116 goddamnedfrank

Bwahahaha go to your hipster coffee house and cry Jacob. And no one said they could win? Because I’m pretty sure they both were classified as toss ups by pollsters but we bow to your stupidity in getting everything wrong.

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fern01  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:33:12pm

Listening to Rachel - no wonder she is the top cable pundit

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:34:38pm

Newest song from my son:

Iframe

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stpaulbear  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:40:54pm

re: #103 gocart mozart

David Simon

@AoDespair
Noting that the first act of ‘Fiddler’ closes with a scene of an anti-Jewish pogrom and further, the traditional insolubility of irony when mixed with alcohol, I can accept, in theory, this explanation on the offender’s part. It makes some sense.

Except for that a large part of the audience thought he was shouting “FIRE!”, as in they were expecting a hail of bullets next. The guy should have been arrested and charged with a crime.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:44:40pm

re: #58 Hecuba’s daughter

We need a Brooks Brothers riot of our own. It is wrong not to count votes of those who legitimately cast them. I hope that the Democrats do not concede on this and fight to the Supreme Court if necessary.

…due to fuck ups in the counting process that the voters have nothing to do with

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:46:02pm

re: #62 lawhawk

He’s a goddamned liar who creeps on women.

His attack on AOC was meant to somehow criticize her as a hypocrite who has nice clothes but couldn’t pay for housing.

As if you can’t get nice clothes and still be unable to afford housing in one of the most expensive markets in nation.

It was that asinine “avocado toast” argument

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:48:15pm

I hadn’t seen this earlier.

We’re comin’ for ya, Stinky.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:48:18pm

re: #79 Hecuba’s daughter

Venting time: I am tired of those who have problems with powerful women, especially women in politics. It seems that misogyny afflicts men of all races, parties, and ideologies. Nancy deserves the position of Speaker. I really wonder how much the Republicans are involved in trying to unseat her — or if this is an exclusively home-grown insurrection.

Many Caucasians have a problem with the Democratic party because it looks like America, rather than a corporate board room. That may be a hidden subtext for many of those who are working to undermine Pelosi, even those who are Democrats.

I’m fine with smart women running everything

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:50:11pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:54:41pm

re: #112 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Yeah, I really want to breathe some air I can’t see. Pray for rain….

A Berkeley friend of mine posted on FB: “My eyes sting, my breath is short, the air is acrid and hazy. I’m inside with my air purifier going. When I do venture out, I wear a mask to filter out fine particulate matter, as do many others I pass on the street”. She also mourns the thousands who lost their homes and those who lost their lives. Last night she said there was no end in sight. I don’t know if the situation has improved. This is such a tragedy for California — and for the rest of this nation.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:59:29pm

Gone In 60 Seconds.

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Archangelus  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:59:51pm
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stpaulbear  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:00:08pm

I’m driving down to Des Moines IA on Saturday, and about an hour of the drive is through Steve King’s district. I’m going to stop for gas and treats before crossing into IA, but I’m tempted to pull off at Clear Lake to go see the Surf Ballroom, Buddy Holly’s last gig before the plane crash.

I’ve got Obama and pro-same-sex marriage stickers on the back of my car.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:01:55pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:08:37pm

re: #130 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Another parasitic mammal
But, there’s also a very cute kitten

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:08:58pm

re: #123 makeitstop

I hope they require him to shower with disinfecting soap and shampoo before he comes to the courtroom.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:10:54pm

re: #131 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Another parasitic mammal
But, there’s also a very cute kitten

Assange reportedly expects the kit to clean his own litter box.

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bratwurst  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:11:52pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:14:04pm
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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:14:11pm

WaPo: 63 confirmed dead and 631 people still unaccounted for in California fire aftermath.

And it’s hard to find the missing.

It was her second day searching for victims of the ferocious wildfire that destroyed this city of about 26,000 residents last week, an effort that authorities say has become the largest search operation in California history.

As Bailey shifted her fingers through the rubble, in a subdivision where every house was leveled by flames, the scale of the task facing her and hundreds of other search-and-rescue volunteers began to sink in.

That charred piece of glass. Is it a tooth? The fingernail size piece of stucco. Is it a bone?

“We have never had anything of this magnitude,” said Bailey, 58, whose team had found the remains of two victims the previous day. “I have seen burned bodies before, but never just disintegrated. It’s usually not like this.”

washingtonpost.com

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:16:27pm

re: #132 wheat-dogg

I hope they require him to shower with disinfecting soap and shampoo before he comes to the courtroom country.

FTFY

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plansbandc  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:24:53pm

Music and TV nerds, this is an interesting thread:

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:28:12pm

No idea if this is a thing or not but I could see trump calling victory and resigning, thinking he’s going out as a winner.

I can also see him thinking that resigning is some kind of take-backsy on all his crimes. Sorry, Donny, it doesn’t work that way. You’re fucked no matter what you do.

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William Lewis  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:30:46pm

re: #138 plansbandc

As lefty and rocker as I may be, I can remember running to sit in front of the set when Glen Campbell or Johnny Cash would be playing.

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plansbandc  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:32:46pm

re: #140 William Lewis

I have loved both of them since the time I learned what music was. Both of them were brilliant.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:33:12pm

re: #2 MsJ

We know; its obvious from his unhinged tweetstorm this morning. He even has Stephen King scared, who wrote the book about this presidency, The Dead Zone.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:34:35pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:35:27pm

re: #140 William Lewis

As lefty and rocker as I may be, I can remember running to sit in front of the set when Glen Campbell or Johnny Cash would be playing.

Me too. And these are from the Johnny Cash show episode I remember the most. Actual live….1971.

Derek And The Dominos - It’s Too Late - Live on The Johnny Cash TV Show 1971

Carl Perkins, Eric Clapton & Johnny Cash - Matchbox

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Kragar  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:37:31pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:38:21pm

re: #145 Kragar

When Republicans win big, it’s the will of God. When Democrats win big, it’s the evil machinations of Soros.

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Kragar  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:38:48pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:39:53pm

re: #145 Kragar

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:41:09pm

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

I think the more disturbing thing here is that this is 100% guaranteed to be THE right-wing talking point tomorrow, and you can damn well bet Douchecanoe Donnie will be tweeting it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:41:34pm

Botox Billy can’t keep his stupid mouth shut, he has to project what the Republicans did in 2016 (with a li’l help from their Russian pals) onto the Democrats.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:43:26pm

re: #150 The Vicious Babushka

Botox Billy can’t keep his stupid mouth shut, he has to project what the Republicans did in 2016 (with a li’l help from their Russian pals) onto the Democrats.

Let them keep talking. If this was a blue wave, 2020 will be an true blue tsunami.

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:43:59pm

re: #138 plansbandc

Music and TV nerds, this is an interesting thread:

Excellent thread! Who knew that such a ‘corny’ show was the most sophisticated production of the time?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:44:35pm

re: #145 Kragar

Lol! What a ridiculous person Bill Mitchell is. Counting every vote can sometimes go beyond election night. So what? That’s how democracies work. Count every vote.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:45:38pm

re: #153 Patricia Kayden

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:46:40pm

re: #149 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I think the more disturbing thing here is that this is 100% guaranteed to be THE right-wing talking point tomorrow, and you can damn well bet Douchecanoe Donnie will be tweeting it.

And Democrats should push back hard and ask why Republicans are anti-democratic and are against counting every vote. People who vote deserve to have their votes counted. This is not a dictatorship where only some votes count.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:48:09pm

re: #145 Kragar

You’re a moron Bill. Please go play hide and go fuck yourself.

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:48:11pm

re: #144 ObserverArt

Me too. And these are from the Johnny Cash show episode I remember the most. Actual live….1971.

[Embedded content]

That guitar that Perkins is playing was by a company called Micro-Frets. The big feature of those guitars was that you could adjust the intonation at the bridge and the nut. They were pretty pricey for their time, but they were real nice guitars.

/guitar nerd

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:49:07pm

re: #155 Patricia Kayden

And Democrats should push back hard and ask why Republicans are anti-democratic and are against counting every vote. People who vote deserve to have their votes counted. This is not a dictatorship where only some votes count.

I would challenge them that the burden of proof is on THEM to demonstrate that the supposedly illicit ballots’ provenance is shady, and that if they do not have positive proof that the votes are fraudulent, they should sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up, and take their ass-kicking like a woman - because right now, the men are behaving like little babies.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:49:35pm

What fucking more do they want when you vote. You have to state your name and that you live at such and such address. Sorry assholes just because you lost doesn’t mean there’s fraud. People don’t want your junk party running Congress.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:50:21pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:51:14pm

re: #138 plansbandc

As someone who watched both Laugh-In and Hee-Haw, I have to admit I liked both shows, even as a Long Island kid with no particular love for country music at the time. (My dad, OTOH, had a country-western phase me and Mom had to suffer through.) The jokes on Hee-Haw were often corny, and the skits in retrospect predictable, but it was entertaining. And if you didn’t like it, change the channel.

I had no idea it had gone into syndication and was still running into the 1990s. I guess none of the New York metro stations opted to run it.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:59:46pm

I got followed by someone and this is his pinned tweet:

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:00:36pm

I had never heard of Bill Mitchell before a month ago, but he’s apparently the kind of absurd growth industry you get when a scammer like Trump is in the oval office.

Since the election, Mitchell’s audience of Trump loyalists has only grown. He wears his own loyalty on a finger in the shape of a gold, Super Bowl-size ring. “President Trump” is engraved on top, with “Deplorables” on one side and “Make America Great Again” on the other.
charlotteobserver.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:02:49pm

re: #139 MsJ

No idea if this is a thing or not but I could see trump calling victory and resigning, thinking he’s going out as a winner.

I can also see him thinking that resigning is some kind of take-backsy on all his crimes. Sorry, Donny, it doesn’t work that way. You’re fucked no matter what you do.

Trump would pardon himself since he has no shame.

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freetoken  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:03:40pm

re: #161 wheat-dogg

I never watched Hee-Haw on my own, but we had neighbors who did and I remember going over there when they had the show on.

IIRC, it was ok. Mostly women in skimpy costumes and bad jokes, and the occasional good music.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:04:50pm

re: #165 freetoken

I never watched Hee-Haw on my own, but we had neighbors who did and I remember going over there when they had the show on.

IIRC, it was ok. Mostly women in skimpy costumes and bad jokes, and the occasional good music.

I was still in elementary school, in my defense. My tastes were not as refined then. LOL

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:05:32pm

re: #165 freetoken

I never watched Hee-Haw on my own, but we had neighbors who did and I remember going over there when they had the show on.

IIRC, it was ok. Mostly women in skimpy costumes and bad jokes, and the occasional good music.

Including a Playmate.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:08:01pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:08:06pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:09:40pm

re: #155 Patricia Kayden

And Democrats should push back hard and ask why Republicans are anti-democratic and are against counting every vote. People who vote deserve to have their votes counted. This is not a dictatorship where only some votes count.

The modern Republican party is full-on anti-democratic. They have been suppressing votes for years, well before Trump was a candidate. The 2000 Florida election was marred by prior widespread purging of voting registers through matching voting records with felon records, and eliminating “matches”, thousands of which were invalid. At least now Florida voted to restore rights to those who have completed their sentences. The GOP knows that cities, which tend blue, take longer to count votes and so it is in GOP interest to place time limits on counting.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:17:18pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:21:20pm

re: #147 Kragar

Oh shit, he’s gonna come to Simi and dry hump Ronnie’s tomb isn’t he?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:23:10pm

re: #169 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

White Men Ari. And your party has a problem with women since you’re a party of dicks who cry all the time about how hard it is being a white male.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:24:08pm

And they do ask Dems about that. All that crap about the working class igniting working class voters of color are firm Dems.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:24:42pm

re: #168 MsJ

As with Puerto Rico and the Gulf Coast states, I expect this White House to do nothing to help the thousands left homeless and ill from these natural disasters. Obama would have already mobilized the military to assist with fire suppression, evac and logistics, and found money in the budget to bolster FEMA. Instead, Orange Foolius has mobilized the army to defend the southern border against a few thousand tired and impoverished civilians.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:25:44pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

Reagan’s ranch was burned pretty bad, I read.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:26:08pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:30:14pm

re: #162 Belafon

I got followed by someone and this is his pinned tweet:

Today some lady followed me and two minutes later DM’d me for a follow back and I’m like damn girl I know I’m a snack but chill a little.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:30:47pm

re: #176 wheat-dogg

As with Puerto Rico and the Gulf Coast states, I expect this White House to do nothing to help the thousands left homeless and ill from these natural disasters. Obama would have already mobilized the military to assist with fire suppression, evac and logistics, and found money in the budget to bolster FEMA. Instead, Orange Foolius has mobilized the army to defend the southern border against a few thousand tired and impoverished civilians.

Trump belonged in Roman times — bread and circuses for the masses, but without the bread; all he is interested in is providing circuses with him as the ringmaster.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:32:39pm

They’re really going to reject the Broward County recount?!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:32:53pm

re: #177 wheat-dogg

Reagan’s ranch was burned pretty bad, I read.

I think that was in the Thomas Fire last year because Reagan’s ranch is in Santa Barbara County.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:34:28pm

re: #181 GlutenFreeJesus

They’re really going to reject the Broward County recount?!

Not sure why they would since the recount gave the Republicans a net gain.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:35:04pm

re: #179 goddamnedfrank

Today some lady followed me and two minutes later DM’d me for a follow back and I’m like damn girl I know I’m a snack but chill a little.

A snack?

Pics or it ain’t real! 😉😊😁😂

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:40:31pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:40:48pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:41:25pm

re: #172 jaunte

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:45:21pm

re: #187 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Bookends of a thread

There is a bit more in the middle of this thread

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:45:26pm

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

Not sure why they would since the recount gave the Republicans a net gain.

Apparently they submitted the results 2 minutes late…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:47:52pm

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:49:13pm

Evening all. Back on the night shift in dead data center land.

I heard that Donny Douchebag is thinking of flying to CA. “To view the damage”. Has this been discussed or any more news on it?

I think he can only really sleep when he’s flying.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:50:39pm

re: #191 Dave In Austin

Evening all. Back on the night shift in dead data center land.

I heard that Donny Douchebag is thinking of flying to CA. “To view the damage”. Has this been discussed or any more news on it?

I think he can only really sleep when he’s flying.

When my daughter was a baby, if we took her on a short drive, she’d fall asleep right away. Maybe Donnie is the same way.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:51:00pm
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sagehen  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:52:43pm

re: #65 Hecuba’s daughter

It is especially irritating for a man to suggest that a woman has to spend a fortune to look elegant or professional. As others here have pointed out, it is possible to acquire a professional wardrobe without spending big money. It’s a lot cheaper if you avoid name brands especially if you purchase items that are selling at deep discount because they are prior year styles.

There’s a company called Rent the Runway, it’s a clothing subscription service — for $160/month you get an almost unlimited amount of fancy designer dresses, coats, bags, skirts, etc etc. Only half a dozen garments at a time, you have to send something back to get a new thing, but you can dress like a big spender without having to buy stuff. Never wear the same thing twice, and your closet doesn’t get stuffed.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:53:50pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:58:01pm

More competition for Florida man:

Crazy? Whoduhthunkit?

(Lubbock) Man accused of impersonating Homeland Security officer attempts arrest of former city councilman

According to a police report, 48-year-old Donn Wojtowicz has been arrested and charged with impersonating a public servant.

The report says on October 17, 2018, a former Lubbock city councilman, who asked to remain anonymous, was driving to Costco and was on 34th Street when he noticed a vehicle driving erratically on the road. The man driving the vehicle, now identified as Wojtowicz, began yelling at the former councilman from his vehicle. Wojtowicz followed the victim to the Costco parking lot, according to the police report.

The report says Wojtowicz got out of his vehicle and walked to the former city councilman’s vehicle. The victim stayed inside his vehicle, but Wojtowicz began yelling that he is from homeland security and that the victim was under arrest. He also told the former councilman he needed to take him to the court house. The victim stayed inside his vehicle and called 911 while Wojtowicz continued to yell, “you’re under arrest.”

Wojtowicz left the area, but not before his license plate was written down.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:58:24pm

re: #195 Ace-o-aces

He may have revealed more about himself with that one tweet than he should have.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:04:30pm

re: #195 Ace-o-aces

What ticks me off is that Twitter blocked me from reporting people. That guy is one sick freak that needs to be kicked off of Twitter.

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sagehen  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:06:10pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Our own Klys also I have to give credit for pointing out things I never thought about as a man. I have to admit, I ragged on HRC a little for merely being her husband’s wife while ignoring her own accomplishments as a private attorney, Arkansas’s FL and FLOTUS, Senator, and SoS. I do feel that SoS made her a better candidate and she would have been a better President had she won this time instead of 2008.

People get it backwards; in truth, all of Bill’s achievements are because he married Hillary. For his entire adult life he’s been short-sighted, impulsive and self-indulgent. She’s the one who brought focus and discipline to their partnership.

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retired cynic  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:08:12pm

re: #199 sagehen

Thank you, sister!

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Scout  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:08:18pm

Hurrah!!!

This just made my whole day:

Democrat Katie Porter Unseats Incumbent GOP Rep. Mimi Walters in Hotly Contested O.C. House Race

Now I can tell my Japanese friend in CA-45 she now lives in a BLUE district!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:08:39pm

Obviously Soros trying to make conservative Christians look like drooling lunatics.

“Make the Gospel great again” — the billboard featuring the bible verse and a photo of Trump. (Photo: KMOV)

Controversial billboard featuring Donald Trump, ‘Make the Gospel great again,’ and Bible verse is taken down in Missouri

On Monday, news broke of a controversial billboard in St. Louis County, Mo., that featured an image of President Trump and a bible verse that has created some confusion. As of this publishing, the giant message has already been removed by DDI Media, which owned the billboard.

The electronic billboard on Interstate 170 read “Make the Gospel great again” and “The Word became flesh…” — the opening to John 1:14, which has some drivers believing that whoever paid for the advertisement, which DDI has not revealed, was equating Trump to Jesus Christ.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:16:31pm

re: #201 Scout

Hurrah!!!

This just made my whole day:

Democrat Katie Porter Unseats Incumbent GOP Rep. Mimi Walters in Hotly Contested O.C. House Race

Now I can tell my Japanese friend in CA-45 she now lives in a BLUE district!

It’s just so wonderful to see the end result of Pete Wilson’s implementation of the total statewide destruction of the California Republican Party!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:17:40pm

ASSANGE HIT WITH CHARGES!

washingtonpost.com

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been charged under seal, prosecutors inadvertently revealed in a recently unsealed court filing — a development that could significantly advance the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election and have major implications for those who publish government secrets.

The disclosure came in a filing in a case unrelated to Assange. Assistant U.S. Attorney Kellen S. Dwyer, urging a judge to keep the matter sealed, wrote that “due to the sophistication of the defendant and the publicity surrounding the case, no other procedure is likely to keep confidential the fact that Assange has been charged.” Later, Dwyer wrote the charges would “need to remain sealed until Assange is arrested.”

Dwyer is also assigned to the WikiLeaks case. People familiar with the matter said what Dwyer was disclosing was true, but unintentional.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:22:47pm

Ron and the Bot

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freetoken  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:30:17pm

I’m nominating the following house as the most over-the-top residence currently for sale in San Diego county. There are more expensive ones (this one is just $6M) but they have marginally less palatial attitudes:

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:31:09pm

I didn’t know, but had I…..

Facebook Post

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retired cynic  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:31:17pm

re: #206 freetoken

I’m nominating the following house as the most over-the-top residence currently for sale in San Diego county. There are more expensive ones (this one is just $6M) but they have marginally less palatial attitudes:

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I love that homey, comfortable vibe here. So warm and welcoming when you come home!

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freetoken  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:31:44pm

re: #208 retired cynic

The only thing those columns are holding up is someone’s ego.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:37:54pm

re: #209 freetoken

If I had those resources. I’d live where I could park my boat in the shop downstairs, on the water mind you.

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freetoken  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:40:31pm

re: #208 retired cynic

I love that homey, comfortable vibe here. So warm and welcoming when you come home!

And out of place in the Rancho Santa Fe historical culture. Several of these places have been built recently, and stick out like a sore thumb in a community that in their HOA charter explicitly laid out an aesthetic that was supposed to be (American) country style.

This particular residence is more Palm Springs meets Dubai:

Some Indonesian forest gave its life for an office in which no work will ever be done:

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:46:14pm

re: #208 retired cynic

+This…..

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NetworkKed  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:48:38pm

(Aw, hell, I posted this a couple threads back but they’re doing really well and there’s still like four hours left if you’re staying up.)

(Random charity aside from a lurker… )

So my favorite internet fundraiser of the year is into its last hours. Check out desertbus.org where a Canadian comedy troupe and friends are playing the most tedious video game ever, auctioning and raffling off prizes, singing, dancing, and other hilariously random things. This is probably the longest-running gaming-centric fundraiser, and they support Child’s Play who buy gaming equipment and resources primarily for children’s hospitals and a few similar settings.

When I was ten I was in the hospital for three weeks or so to get some liver ducts fixed and then waiting while the post-surgery pancreatitis went away. After the first five days mostly I felt okay, but getting jabbed with needles six times a day and some unfortunate hospital room arrangements had me in a bad mood. Someone had donated an Intellivision and a dozen or so games that could be used in front of the nurses’ station and while I can’t say it made me get better any faster but it probably meant I didn’t snarl at the nurses quite so much. That was decades before Child’s Play started up, but I was delighted to see someone carrying that torch in an organized fashion.

So I chip in one or two grand towards Desert Bus every year. To give back, yes, but also because the event is a great mental flossing where work and politics don’t matter so much. It’s streamed through Twitch, but you can watch it on their site and even if you do click over to the source feed they very strongly moderate their chat, better than anyone else in this size range I’ve encountered. Donations are through Paypal and go straight to the charity who claim a 94% passthrough rate. I strongly recommend checking it out, especially as we get into the evening and the rush of the last few hours.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:49:58pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:59:25pm

re: #209 freetoken

The only thing those columns are holding up is someone’s ego.

Probably overcompensating for something. Probably also bought the commodes that President* Trump’s Attorney General* sold for the well endowed.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:00:51pm

re: #207 Dave In Austin

I didn’t know, but had I…..

The other relatively unknown US uniformed service is the United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps.
Both wear the US Navy’s service/dress uniform and the USCG fatigue uniform, with their own specific branch badges

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Scout  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:25:52pm

re: #216 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The other relatively unknown US uniformed service is the United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps.
Both wear the US Navy’s service/dress uniform and the USCG fatigue uniform, with their own specific branch badges

There’s an old black-and-white movie where Richard Widmark plays one of their officers. If I recall correctly, he was tracking down a plague carrier.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 15, 2018 • 11:03:48pm

I’m not going in!
Yeah, whatever.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 11:04:18pm
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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 11:11:59pm

re: #219 Dave In Austin

I could listen to Cy talk all nite…..

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 16, 2018 • 12:02:32am

re: #207 Dave In Austin

I didn’t know, but had I…..

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The NOAA officer corps actually originated in the First World War when surveyors from the precursor service, the Coast and Geodetic Survey, were assigned to work with the armed forces overseas. They were given uniforms and commissions so they wouldn’t be shot as spies if captured. The Civil Air Patrol was made a uniformed service in World War II for the same reason.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 16, 2018 • 12:10:24am

re: #108 Blind Frog Belly White

No surprise to anyone who’s spent a lot of time in northeastern small towns.

Northwestern small towns too. The densely populated areas of Oregon keep the sparsely populated areas from burning the state down. Washington is the same way. It’s more than clear that people who live in areas with a large and diverse population care more about those around them than those who have fewer people and less diversity around them. Here in my part of Oregon, Lane county kept DeFazio in Congress. Their voters kept the nuts in four other counties, including mine, from electing Art Robinson (R-Send Urine).

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 16, 2018 • 12:46:48am

WHAT!

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Teukka  Nov 16, 2018 • 12:52:52am

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Obviously Soros trying to make conservative Christians look like drooling lunatics.

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Controversial billboard featuring Donald Trump, ‘Make the Gospel great again,’ and Bible verse is taken down in Missouri

More like “The DERP became flesh” in the case of GOP and DJT these days…
I’ll show myself out…

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Alephnaught  Nov 16, 2018 • 1:57:42am

Meanwhile in the UK…

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 2:08:39am

re: #225 Alephnaught

Meanwhile in the UK…

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So the day will either see May out on her ass…or rendered bulletproof until way after the country has crashed into the bollards.

And there’s still the chance that we’ll also see one or more of Donny’s associates indicted today.

I don’t have nearly enough popcorn.

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 2:47:46am
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Alephnaught  Nov 16, 2018 • 3:15:23am
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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 3:18:38am

So the word now is that only half the necessary number of letters have been received to spark a no-confidence vote. And that neither May or Gove will be resigning. So we’re playing the waiting game, seeing which gives first: Her position, his ambitions, or the country’s future.

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Alephnaught  Nov 16, 2018 • 3:57:54am

Another poll, this time from Survation for the Daily Mail.

Not included in the thread, but you can see from the link to the site, they’ve asked a question aboout voting in a three-way referendum:

Brexit with deal: 16%
No-deal Brexit: 28%
Remain in EU: 43%
Don’t know: 13%

This time, the combined Brexit vote (44%) is slightly more than the Remain vote, but Remain still wins.

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Alephnaught  Nov 16, 2018 • 4:06:04am

Thread:

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Sufficient unto the day...  Nov 16, 2018 • 4:18:18am
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teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2018 • 4:23:41am

Giphy

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 4:24:46am

re: #231 Alephnaught

Thread:

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As appropriate for most marriages of convenience, one side doesn’t really want it to end but has made it clear they won’t budge while the one that wants out is now dealing with the reality that there are limits to how much they can extract from the whole mess.

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gocart mozart  Nov 16, 2018 • 4:41:04am
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teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2018 • 4:55:08am
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jeffreyw  Nov 16, 2018 • 4:57:25am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:01:26am

re: #233 teleskiguy

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Orange County has the same number of congressmen as Kentucky, and it was nearly as red. Until now.

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teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:02:41am

re: #236 teleskiguy

It took me a few hours to finish this extraordinary piece of journalism. About halfway through I had to stop, have lunch, and collect myself by walking around my neighborhood for an hour. Parts of it made me weep uncontrollably. I wanted to re-read it this morning, and I didn’t even make it to the beginning of the article before tears welled up. It’s a wholly profound piece of journalism. Please read it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:04:30am

This is weird.

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:07:11am

re: #240 Big Beautiful Door

This is weird.

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“WE WARNED YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU LEGALIZED GAY MARRIAGE!!!”

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teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:11:14am
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Archangelus  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:26:56am

So it begins…

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:28:01am

re: #243 Archangelus

Anyone know what happened to that corruption case against Bibi? It seems to have disappeared.

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:28:30am

Gotta love how we’re supposed to accept three things:

1. Nancy is too old for the job and should step down, but Hoyer is not too old to be Majority Leader.

2. There’s all these fine candidates that her opponents supposedly think will run, but none are stepping forward and the excuse is “They won’t run until she steps aside.” (Where have I heard that before?)

3. There’s no way Nancy can win the gavel without getting votes from the House GOP, so she should be prepared to agree to “bipartisan” rule reform if she wants to be Speaker.

Why I love it is because two weeks ago, when Nancy was out in the press telling them that she was confident that the DNC was about to win the House, the press snickered and suggested she was setting herself up to look like an idiot when the GOP kept the House. Now she says she has the Dem votes to win the gavel without groveling to anyone, and the same press are saying she doesn’t have the votes and needs to step aside or compromise.

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Archangelus  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:31:54am

re: #244 Big Beautiful Door

Anyone know what happened to that corruption case against Bibi? It seems to have disappeared.

Corruption cases, plural.
Still ongoing for the most part, indictments yet to be handed out in 3 of them.
Last week saw indictments for the most prominent of them all (Case 3000, involving corruption in a major defense acquisition), Netanyahu wasn’t charged but several folks close to him were. Big debate on whether he knew things or not - “damned if he did, incompetent if he didn’t.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:33:02am

re: #233 teleskiguy

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Jerry Voorhis and Helen Gahagan Douglas smile down from Heaven while Tricky Dick curses in the 9th Level of Hell.

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:33:19am

re: #245 Targetpractice

They keep misunderestimating her skills - including the ability to count.

Why was she effective as Speaker? Because she knew the votes and counts to make them happen. It’s precisely why Ryan was an abject failure. He didn’t know/care about the counts (or anything else) so long as he could claim to gut the safety net and threaten repeals of Obamacare.

Pelosi’s the most consequential Speaker of the last 50 years.

And that chafes the hides of a bunch of guys who don’t know how to react to an effective and strong female leader.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:35:26am

re: #245 Targetpractice

Gotta love how we’re supposed to accept three things:

1. Nancy is too old for the job and should step down, but Hoyer is not too old to be Majority Leader.

2. There’s all these fine candidates that her opponents supposedly think will run, but none are stepping forward and the excuse is “They won’t run until she steps aside.” (Where have I heard that before?)

3. There’s no way Nancy can win the gavel without getting votes from the House GOP, so she should be prepared to agree to “bipartisan” rule reform if she wants to be Speaker.

Why I love it is because two weeks ago, when Nancy was out in the press telling them that she was confident that the DNC was about to win the House, the press snickered and suggested she was setting herself up to look like an idiot when the GOP kept the House. Now she says she has the Dem votes to win the gavel without groveling to anyone, and the same press are saying she doesn’t have the votes and needs to step aside or compromise.

The same Presstitutes who have the knives out for Nancy are lining up to kiss Mitt’s ass 24/7.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:38:40am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:39:57am

He should know.

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:42:17am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:45:06am

Twitter, too!

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Alephnaught  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:50:19am

What the…?

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:57:33am

re: #252 lawhawk

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The hilarity is that he wasted so much time and energy bullying Mexico and Canada into giving him NAFTA 1.2, yet there’s little chance it’ll be ratified before he leaves office.

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 5:58:46am

Watch for Trump to spew this bulkshit later today:

It will be an article of faith, unsupported by reality.

The GOP and right wing extremists are absolutely intent on destroying the institutions of government to retain absolute grip on power.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:02:01am

Brent Spence is the I-75 bridge that is falling apart

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:02:56am

re: #254 Alephnaught

What the…?

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Vulture capitalism. The reality of what a Brexit deal would entail (i.e. “frozen Brexit”) is leading the hard-Brexit crowd to suggest that crash of a no-deal Brexit would be preferable to May’s deal. There’s so much political capital invested in the idea of Brexit that some are prepared to run their country through another Great Recession level crash than admit it was a mistake from the very beginning.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:08:30am

thedrive.com
Not A Surprise: North Korea Is Back To Publicizing Weapons Tests Overseen By Kim Jong Un

They gave up nothing of meaning in regards to their nuclear weapons & missile programs & know full well S. Korea isn’t going back to max pressure. + they got what they always wanted-that handshake on equal terms that cost nothing. China back in their arms & Russia circling. 1/2

— Tyler Rogoway (@Aviation_Intel) November 3, 2018

As for the weapon involved in this test, we really don’t know what it was. There is speculation that it could have been a new anti-tank or surface-to-air missile system, or another short-range guided weapon, but really, it doesn’t matter all that much. What matters is North Korea wanted their old modus operandi to rear its ugly head again in the propaganda space and the world is taking notice. The readout from KCNA is posted below and the photo from the outing is posted as the banner image of this article.

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:16:13am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:16:49am

something you don’t see everyday:

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:21:30am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

AT-ATs would have been useful getting around NYC metro.

I saw someone tweet out that Google maps showed a the entire northeast/middle Atlantic/Midwest from Mass to NJ to Ohio was locked in a traffic jam as everyone crawled to a standstill due to the storm yesterday.

It’s still treacherous out there this morning.

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Alephnaught  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:22:47am

re: #256 lawhawk

EDIT: This is even better.

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teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:25:13am

re: #262 lawhawk

I liked this perspective.

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Weaselone  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:26:22am

re: #260 lawhawk

Someone made a comment in the responses that this showed the advantage of being listed first on the ballot. I was like that’s true, but research seems to show the advantage is there, but very minimal. Then I was like, holy shit. Nelson and Scott are separated by less than .25%. This election very well might hinge on the fact that Scott was listed first on the ballots.

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teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:29:38am

Not once. NOT ONCE. Not once did I have a snow day at school growing up. There were days when it snowed two inches an hour for a whole night, and the buses picked us up and the main thoroughfares were plowed and sanded. We’re prepared for such events, that’s the difference.

Kids that grow up in mountain towns don’t ever get snow days, even though they deal with snow way more than their city/flatland/lower latitude contemporaries. Irony. Go figure.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:31:12am

re: #258 Targetpractice

Vulture capitalism. The reality of what a Brexit deal would entail (i.e. “frozen Brexit”) is leading the hard-Brexit crowd to suggest that crash of a no-deal Brexit would be preferable to May’s deal. There’s so much political capital invested in the idea of Brexit that some are prepared to run their country through another Great Recession level crash than admit it was a mistake from the very beginning.

That and the human condition of not admitting you’re wrong.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:32:26am

re: #256 lawhawk

Watch for Trump to spew this bulkshit later today:

It will be an article of faith, unsupported by reality.

The GOP and right wing extremists are absolutely intent on destroying the institutions of government to retain absolute grip on power.

It would be so incredibly dangerous if he went so far as to call the elections illegitimate.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:33:26am

re: #10 Jack Burton

How many times in the past month decade has he parroted this same crap? As far as I can tell, “Democrats are racists. Republicans freed the slaves.” is the only thing he ever posts about. He’s got it on loop.

Fxd.

Dish Dzousa ain’t got nothing now accept this tired trope.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:34:11am

re: #268 Mike Lamb

It would be so incredibly dangerous if he went so far as to call the elections illegitimate.

He’s pretty much already done that. Rubio, too.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:35:17am

re: #266 teleskiguy

Not once. NOT ONCE. Not once did I have a snow day at school growing up. There were days when it snowed two inches an hour for a whole night, and the buses picked us up and the main thoroughfares were plowed and sanded. We’re prepared for such events, that’s the difference.

Kids that grow up in mountain towns don’t ever get snow days, even though they deal with snow way more than their city/flatland/lower latitude contemporaries. Irony. Go figure.

My kids here in the DFW area haven’t had a snow day in two years, because we haven’t had a major winter storm in that long. Imagine having everything and everyone sitting around waiting for a possible storm, for an area the size of Rhode Island and Connecticut combined. It doesn’t make sense.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:38:41am

re: #269 Sir John Barron

Fxd.

Dish Dzousa ain’t got nothing now accept this tired trope.

What’s really sad is they think this is a way to reach out to Black Americans by flat out saying they’re too stupid to know that Lincoln was a Republican and the pushers of Jim Crow were Democrats. I remember when Rand Paul tried to pull that stunt at Howard. Didn’t end well for Rand.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:40:34am

re: #245 Targetpractice

2. There’s all these fine candidates that her opponents supposedly think will run, but none are stepping forward and the excuse is “They won’t run until she steps aside.” (Where have I heard that before?)

This is what gets me every time.

I don’t particularly have a dog in this fight. Nancy can be Speaker or someone else can.

But the way the other party does this, if I am understanding it correctly, is that they have a Speaker or majority or minority leader who wants to be Speaker, and they more or less challenge each other or fight it out in some process that results in one of them keeping the Speakership or someone else taking it.

This demand for Nancy to step down, or not run, or whatever, seems almost like an attempt by the GOP or the media or whoever else to just sow chaos in the Dem House ranks should Nancy indeed step aside and no one, or no one barely qualified actually steps forward to replace her.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:41:04am

re: #245 Targetpractice

I can’t wait for that to be over so Democrats can plan for taking over the House in January.

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Weaselone  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:42:10am

re: #266 teleskiguy

Kids that grow up in mountain towns don’t ever get snow days, even though they deal with snow way more than their city/flatland/lower latitude contemporaries. Irony. Go figure.

Large urban areas have issues with where to put all the snow regardless of levels of preparedness. Beyond a certain point it literally has to be hauled out of the city or melted on site. The capability to this during a major snowstorm so as to prevent delays and school closings would be prohibitively expensive.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:42:15am

re: #272 HappyWarrior

What’s really sad is they think this is a way to reach out to Black Americans by flat out saying they’re too stupid to know that Lincoln was a Republican and the pushers of Jim Crow were Democrats. I remember when Rand Paul tried to pull that stunt at Howard. Didn’t end well for Rand.

It’s another RWNJ zombie lie, it never dies, you can’t kill it, they just keep repeating it. Because they have nothing better to do and no better argument to make.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:42:19am

Hello from SoCal. We are about to endure the risks of hate tweets, dumb hostile comments, a smarmy smile and really bad hair. Yes, Trump is coming to see what ash and burnt homes look like.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:44:30am

re: #277 Unshaken Defiance

Hello from SoCal. We are about to endure the risks of hate tweets, dumb hostile comments, a smarmy smile and really bad hair. Yes, Trump is coming to see what ash and burnt homes look like.

And throw out rolls of paper towels?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:45:19am

re: #276 Sir John Barron

It’s another RWNJ zombie lie, it never dies, you can’t kill it, they just keep repeating it. Because they have nothing better to do and no better argument to make.

Well it’s not even truly a lie. The fact is for much of the 19th and early half of the 20th century, the GOP was better on Civil Rights but what the hell does that mean to someone now who hears Republicans using PoC as a boogeyman to strum up support. There is literally not a soul alive today who was alive when the GOP was clearly the better of the two parties on Civil Rights. These guys love to talk about the Dixiecrats but they ignore that many Southern Republicans actually tried to out right wing them on civil rights eventually and that’s actually how we got some of the first Republican Congressmen and SEnators from the Deep South in the modern era.

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teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:46:02am

re: #277 Unshaken Defiance

Actual quote from Fuckface Von Clownstick, “The fires were tremendously hot from the standpoint of fire.”

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:46:22am

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

Just when you thought Dipshit D’Stupid couldn’t get any stupider, he outstupids himself.

Yes, because the South has always and will always be a hotbed of liberalism. FFS, conservatives are the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:49:46am

re: #281 Dr. Matt

Yes, because the South has always and will always be a hotbed of liberalism. FFS, conservatives are the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet.

It’s willful ignorance IMO.

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 6:51:55am

re: #273 Sir John Barron

This is what gets me every time.

I don’t particularly have a dog in this fight. Nancy can be Speaker or someone else can.

But the way the other party does this, if I am understanding it correctly, is that they have a Speaker or majority or minority leader who wants to be Speaker, and they more or less challenge each other or fight it out in some process that results in one of them keeping the Speakership or someone else taking it.

This demand for Nancy to step down, or not run, or whatever, seems almost like an attempt by the GOP or the media or whoever else to just sow chaos in the Dem House ranks should Nancy indeed step aside and no one, or no one barely qualified actually steps forward to replace her.

I snarked about having heard this all before because we really have, in the run-up to the ‘16 primaries there was all this talk that if Hillary would just announce she’s no intention to run, then a plethora of “better” candidates would feel safe to run and step up. But whenever you pressed the folks making these arguments who these candidates waiting for Hillary to “step aside” were, we got the same noise we’re getting now: “Oh, well X might consider a run” or “We’d like to see Y run in place of Hillary.” Except then the press would ask X and/or Y about their intentions and they’d universally deny any interest in running.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:00:25am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Well it’s not even truly a lie. The fact is for much of the 19th and early half of the 20th century, the GOP was better on Civil Rights but what the hell does that mean to someone now who hears Republicans using PoC as a boogeyman to strum up support. There is literally not a soul alive today who was alive when the GOP was clearly the better of the two parties on Civil Rights. These guys love to talk about the Dixiecrats but they ignore that many Southern Republicans actually tried to out right wing them on civil rights eventually and that’s actually how we got some of the first Republican Congressmen and SEnators from the Deep South in the modern era.

Right, the lie part is to continue to insist as he and others do that the parties have not transformed since the 1860’s.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:05:22am

re: #284 Sir John Barron

Right, the lie part is to continue to insist as he and others do that the parties have not transformed since the 1860’s.

Yeah it’s a lie and incredibly stupid too. And I get tired of the Democrats as a whole from the 1860’s made out to be pro-secession. That wasn’t the case. That was the Southern Dems. Lots of Northern Dems who were not only pro-Union but some of them even became some of Lincoln’s top generals, Winfield Scott Hancock comes to mind. I will grant that the Republicans were the only party not to have secessionist and pro slavery elements but the remnants of the Whigs certainly did. Like Civil Rights itself a 100 years later, I’d say a lot of the divide on secession was based on region. I believe it’s been shown that Northern Democrats voted for the Civil Rights legislation at a same or even greater rate than their Republican colleagues and as I said yesterday, the Republicans showed how serious they were about the entire issue when they decided to nominate Goldwater in ‘64 rather than a proven Civil Rights champion like Rockefeller.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:09:03am

BYO lung protection.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:11:04am

re: #285 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s a lie and incredibly stupid too. And I get tired of the Democrats as a whole from the 1860’s made out to be pro-secession. That wasn’t the case. That was the Southern Dems. Lots of Northern Dems who were not only pro-Union but some of them even became some of Lincoln’s top generals, Winfield Scott Hancock comes to mind. I will grant that the Republicans were the only party not to have secessionist and pro slavery elements but the remnants of the Whigs certainly did. Like Civil Rights itself a 100 years later, I’d say a lot of the divide on secession was based on region. I believe it’s been shown that Northern Democrats voted for the Civil Rights legislation at a same or even greater rate than their Republican colleagues and as I said yesterday, the Republicans showed how serious they were about the entire issue when they decided to nominate Goldwater in ‘64 rather than a proven Civil Rights champion like Rockefeller.

And a reminder that there were Liberal Republicans like George Romney, Bill Scranton, Thomas Kuchel and Margaret Chase Smith who refused to support Goldwater.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:12:59am

re: #286 jaunte

My word! That’s inhumane.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:13:18am

re: #287 Joe Bacon 🌹

And a reminder that there were Liberal Republicans like George Romney, Bill Scranton, Thomas Kuchel and Margaret Chase Smith who refused to support Goldwater.

Since you brought up George Romney who I believe my grandfather actually probably would have met since George was an auto executive. I actually have a lot of respect for him being staunchly pro civil rights when his church remained officially very racist. IT’s why I can’t stand Mitt. George had political courage that Mitt has none of. And you’re absolutely right. I mean I appreciate that Goldwater opposed the RR later in his career but the Goldwater of ‘64 did not belong in the WH at all and the movement to elect him President really started a lot of the crap we see on the right now.

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:15:22am

re: #285 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s a lie and incredibly stupid too. And I get tired of the Democrats as a whole from the 1860’s made out to be pro-secession. That wasn’t the case. That was the Southern Dems. Lots of Northern Dems who were not only pro-Union but some of them even became some of Lincoln’s top generals, Winfield Scott Hancock comes to mind. I will grant that the Republicans were the only party not to have secessionist and pro slavery elements but the remnants of the Whigs certainly did. Like Civil Rights itself a 100 years later, I’d say a lot of the divide on secession was based on region. I believe it’s been shown that Northern Democrats voted for the Civil Rights legislation at a same or even greater rate than their Republican colleagues and as I said yesterday, the Republicans showed how serious they were about the entire issue when they decided to nominate Goldwater in ‘64 rather than a proven Civil Rights champion like Rockefeller.

Yeah, not so much. The Republican Party was like most political parties, split into factions that tried to pull it hither and yon. While there was no overt support for secessionist states in the party, there were those Republicans who felt that the Southerners weren’t wrong when they said slavery was a legal matter and one that the Feds had no business poking their noses into. Really, had the war ended prior to Antietam and the Emancipation Proclamation, it’s likely its lasting legacy would be that viewpoint that states don’t have the right to secede and slavery would have been abolished in a much more gradual fashion.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:15:37am

I’ll take Republicans seriously on trying to school my party for what it was when they can speak honestly about the race baiting Reagan did throughout his political career whether it was the about face on guns because of the black panthers, the “young bucks buying t-bones”, “welfare queen”, and of course the infamous opening up one’s campaign where three civil rights workers were murdered talking about states rights. I’ll freely admit. The Democratic Party was pretty shitty on Civil Rights until Truman and didn’t really start going in the correct direction until LBJ since Stevenson and even JFK were a bit lukewarm on the subject.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:16:58am

re: #290 Targetpractice

Yeah, not so much. The Republican Party was like most political parties, split into factions that tried to pull it hither and yon. While there was no overt support for secessionist states in the party, there were those Republicans who felt that the Southerners weren’t wrong when they said slavery was a legal matter and one that the Feds had no business poking their noses into. Really, had the war ended prior to Antietam and the Emancipation Proclamation, it’s likely its lasting legacy would be that viewpoint that states don’t have the right to secede and slavery would have been abolished in a much more gradual fashion.

I actually didn’t know that. I thought the GOP circa 1861-62 was strongly opposed to slavery or at least the expansion there of which was what the subject of the famous Lincoln-Douglas debates were about, not abolition in itself.

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:20:09am

re: #277 Unshaken Defiance

Hello from SoCal. We are about to endure the risks of hate tweets, dumb hostile comments, a smarmy smile and really bad hair. Yes, Trump is coming to see what ash and burnt homes look like.

I figured he would be too chickenshit to go to Paradise. Too much loss and grief there for him to dismiss with a few platitudes in a rambling speech.

(Not minimizing the impact of the SoCal fire at all here. But the loss of life in LA County was considerably less, so it’ll be easier for him to talk past.)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:23:58am

The most ludcurious is when they tried with Trump who I will grant doesn’t have the history of being hostile to LGBT people like Cruz, Rubio, and the others as “the most pro-LGBT candidate ever”. Uh no and we’re seeing this even though they didn’t attempt to repeal DADT.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:24:07am

thread:

heh

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:24:11am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

I actually didn’t know that. I thought the GOP circa 1861-62 was strongly opposed to slavery or at least the expansion there of which was what the subject of the famous Lincoln-Douglas debates were about, not abolition in itself.

The party was really divided between the “Radical Republicans” who were major advocates of abolitionism and scared the ever-loving shit out of Southerners, and what we’d recognize today as the business wing of the party that saw slavery in the terms of the day: Economics and Political power. The former opposed any new slave states being allowed into the Union on humanitarian grounds, the latter saw any new slave state admitted as a strengthening of Southern influence and power in the Western territories. Lincoln really fell somewhere in the middle, sympathetic to the abolitionist cause but viewing slavery as a legal matter that should be settled in the courts or legislatures rather than through force.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:25:35am

re: #296 Targetpractice

The party was really divided between the “Radical Republicans” who were major advocates of abolitionism and scared the ever-loving shit out of Southerners, and what we’d recognize today as the business wing of the party that saw slavery in the terms of the day: Economics and Political power. The former opposed any new slave states being allowed into the Union on humanitarian grounds, the latter saw any new slave state admitted as a strengthening of Southern influence and power in the Western territories. Lincoln really fell somewhere in the middle, sympathetic to the abolitionist cause but viewing slavery as a legal matter that should be settled in the courts or legislatures rather than through force.

Gotcha.

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:26:06am

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

thread:

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I suspected yesterday that the continuance from yesterday was for no other reason than to give the White House the opportunity to get their head out of their ass and settle with CNN. The White House chose instead to dig themselves deeper, so the judge has no choice but to press forward to the inevitable wrist-slap.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:28:04am

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

thread:

Not surprised. Thank goodness for the judiciary.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:28:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:29:56am
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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:30:05am

GOP prior to the election: “ZOMG!!! IF DEMOCRATS WIN TUESDAY, NANCY PELOSI WILL BE THE SPEAKER AGAIN!!!!”

GOP after the election: “Hey, we’re willing to vote for Nancy if she’ll just agree to some ‘rule reforms.’ *winkwink* *nudgenudge*”

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:34:53am

And the best part about that ruling regarding CNN’s Jim Acosta?

Timothy J. Kelly is a Trump-appointed judge.

L.O. fuckin’ L. Trump’s gonna pitch a fit, just you wait.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:40:23am

the plot thickens:

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:44:02am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like ratfucking.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:44:02am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:45:20am

Has Donnie’s twitter meltdown started yet?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:47:25am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Has Donnie’s twitter meltdown started yet?

it’s still quiet…too quiet…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:48:47am
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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:48:57am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s still quiet…too quiet…

He’ll wig out around the same time Faux does.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:49:31am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:53:18am

re: #296 Targetpractice

The party was really divided between the “Radical Republicans” who were major advocates of abolitionism and scared the ever-loving shit out of Southerners, and what we’d recognize today as the business wing of the party that saw slavery in the terms of the day: Economics and Political power. The former opposed any new slave states being allowed into the Union on humanitarian grounds, the latter saw any new slave state admitted as a strengthening of Southern influence and power in the Western territories. Lincoln really fell somewhere in the middle, sympathetic to the abolitionist cause but viewing slavery as a legal matter that should be settled in the courts or legislatures rather than through force.

And to add to your point about the economic motivation of more conservative Republicans, these also opposed the expansion of slavery on the grounds that it hindered the furtherance of a free labor system. Eric Foner’s book, Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Men, on the emergence of the Republican Party is an important read.

And in terms of the humanitarian motive, there were Republicans, Lincoln chief among them, that saw the expansion and presence of slavery as a blot on the reputation and example of the American Republic. Some Republicans might not have cared all that about slavery or the condition of Blacks, but they were concerned about how slavery made the American example appear to other countries. These desired that America serve as a republican example to other countries so that democracy/republicanism might be spread.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:56:40am

re: #312 Sir John Barron

And to add to your point about the economic motivation of more conservative Republicans, these also opposed the expansion of slavery on the grounds that it hindered the furtherance of a free labor system. Eric Foner’s book, Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Men, on the emergence of the Republican Party is an important read.

And in terms of the humanitarian motive, there were Republicans, Lincoln chief among them, that saw the expansion and presence of slavery as a blot on the reputation and example of the American Republic. Some Republicans might not have cared all that about slavery or the condition of Blacks, but they were concerned about how slavery made the American example appear to other countries. These desired that America serve as a republican example to other countries so that democracy/republicanism might be spread.

I’m going to read this book. I really like Foner. One of my American history professors was even acquainted with him a little since they were around the same age and I think had the same specialty.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:57:44am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s still quiet…too quiet…

Policy Time must be interfering.

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:57:58am

I’m gonna take a guess now that the White House basically takes the judge’s order and wipes their ass with it, saying that until the matter’s fully hashed out in the courts, Acosta will not be getting his press pass back and CNN can either send someone else or be locked out of the press pool until the courts rule in favor of the White House at some later date.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:58:51am

re: #314 Sir John Barron

Policy Time must be interfering.

the moron is probably demanding to know why he can’t just fire that judge…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 16, 2018 • 7:59:12am

I don’t know. This somehow seems fitting this week.

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:01:08am

re: #315 Targetpractice

A Trump appointed federal judge ruled against Trump, requiring that the admin provide clear rules for when someone can have their credentials revoked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:01:08am
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Jay C  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:01:21am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

the plot thickens:

Well, if this IS a case of ratfucking, it probably was hoked up by somebody like Jacob Wohl, because the level of incompetence shown is amazing. If they were trying to get Avenatti smeared as a “domestic abuser” (seemingly the offense-of-choice for RW ratfuckers these days), they might have done a better job of it than what is looking like a crude frame, instantly (and mendaciously) hyped by a partisan media outlet for political puposes.
And trying this crap out on a shark lawyer like Michael Avenatti merely compounds the error….

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Teukka  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:05:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:05:39am
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jaunte  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:06:34am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

So now Jacob Wohl will be plotting an incident to show that Acosta presents a dangerous safety issue for the White House.

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:06:45am

re: #312 Sir John Barron

And to add to your point about the economic motivation of more conservative Republicans, these also opposed the expansion of slavery on the grounds that it hindered the furtherance of a free labor system. Eric Foner’s book, Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Men, on the emergence of the Republican Party is an important read.

And in terms of the humanitarian motive, there were Republicans, Lincoln chief among them, that saw the expansion and presence of slavery as a blot on the reputation and example of the American Republic. Some Republicans might not have cared all that about slavery or the condition of Blacks, but they were concerned about how slavery made the American example appear to other countries. These desired that America serve as a republican example to other countries so that democracy/republicanism might be spread.

Ayep. The Republicans as a party generally were not partial to the secessionist cause, but they were at least willing to entertain the idea of solving the matter in the courts or through passage of laws. In the short-term, they wished to close off the West to further expansion of slavery, but the long-term goal was to abolish it entirely throughout the US. There were even proposals such as allowing the federal government to purchase slaves for the purpose of setting them free.

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:08:25am

re: #305 Dr Lizardo

Looks like ratfucking.

It really does. TMZ’s legal team better be on their game. If Levin cooked this up, they could be on their way to becoming Gawker v.2.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:09:05am
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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:09:58am

re: #318 lawhawk

A Trump appointed federal judge ruled against Trump, requiring that the admin provide clear rules for when someone can have their credentials revoked.

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There’s hundreds of kids without their parents who stand as proof that, when it comes to the courts and orders, this White House doesn’t give a flying fuck except when it wins.

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Jay C  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:13:11am

re: #318 lawhawk

A Trump appointed federal judge ruled against Trump, requiring that the admin provide clear rules for when someone can have their credentials revoked.

And why do think those “standardized rules” are likely to read something like:

Dear White House Press Corps:
Here are our standardized rules for issuing Press passes:
If we like you, you get one.
If we don’t like you, you don’t get one.
Regards,
Sarah

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:13:45am

re: #318 lawhawk

A Trump appointed federal judge ruled against Trump, requiring that the admin provide clear rules for when someone can have their credentials revoked.

“standardized rules”?

/

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:14:40am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

The video was damning evidence

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:14:49am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:15:07am

re: #328 Jay C

And why do think those “standardized rules” are likely to read something like:

Dear White House Press Corps:
Here are our standardized rules for issuing Press passes:
If we like you, you get one.
If we don’t like you, you don’t get one.
Regards,
Sarah

“Look, Obama’s executive orders were tyranny and don’t tread on me but Drump can do whatever he likes because.”

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MsJ  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:15:07am

re: #250 Big Beautiful Door

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:21:59am

The only concern I have about the Acosta lawsuit is that every conspiracy theory right-wing goon could demand access to a white house press pass under the guise they are a “journalist”.

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:22:23am

Ten bucks says if Acosta shows up at the press briefing today (if there is one, of course), Sanders will freeze him out and will continue to do so.

No questions for you, Enemy of the People.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:23:07am

10-to-1 Melania plagiarizes this, badly

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:23:15am

re: #335 makeitstop

Ten bucks says if Acosta shows up at the press briefing today (if there is one, of course), Sanders will freeze him out and will continue to do so.

No questions for you, Enemy of the People.

I’d sooner bet that the Press Office announces there won’t be any press briefings “until further notice.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:24:36am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:25:55am

re: #335 makeitstop

Ten bucks says if Acosta shows up at the press briefing today (if there is one, of course), Sanders will freeze him out and will continue to do so.

No questions for you, Enemy of the People.

Yeah they’ll ignore him or insult him or IOW keep doing what they’ve been doing.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:26:03am

Breaking: White House staff is trying to convince Trump he cannot take back his appointment to the Judge he appointed who gave the win to Jim Acosta and CNN.

// half sarc…..for now //

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MsJ  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:26:15am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

something you don’t see everyday:

What was that?

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:26:21am

re: #275 Weaselone

Large urban areas have issues with where to put all the snow regardless of levels of preparedness. Beyond a certain point it literally has to be hauled out of the city or melted on site. The capability to this during a major snowstorm so as to prevent delays and school closings would be prohibitively expensive.

Cleveland, Erie PA, Buffalo, Rochester…all know this dilemma. Many years back I was up in Rochester in late March and there were still mounds of snow standing in areas wherever they could stack it. The hotel I stayed in had a big pile in the back of their parking lot that was probably 10 feet tall and 50 wide or more.

Snow belt. No mountains like Colorado, Utah and the like, but all the snow. And it is usually wet snow so it is heavy too.

Oh yeah…morning!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:26:41am

I should turn off my computer, and leave the internet on a high note

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:28:53am

re: #341 MsJ

What was that?

an airplane?

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:29:05am

I’ll give the distinguished judge exactly one guess.

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:30:46am

It may just be me, but I think it rather significant that the judge ruled not on the 1A grounds (i.e. “Acosta has a right as a member of the press to attend these briefings”), but on 5A grounds (i.e. “He was ejected and his press pass pulled for breaking rules that weren’t clearly posted”).

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gwangung  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:33:53am

re: #346 Targetpractice

It may just be me, but I think it rather significant that the judge ruled not on the 1A grounds (i.e. “Acosta has a right as a member of the press to attend these briefings”), but on 5A grounds (i.e. “He was ejected and his press pass pulled for breaking rules that weren’t clearly posted”).

Strikes me as going from least restrictive grounds on up; Trump failed on some of the most basic rules here.

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MsJ  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:35:43am

re: #325 makeitstop

It really does. TMZ’s legal team better be on their game. If Levin cooked this up, they could be on their way to becoming Gawker v.2.

The loss of TMZ would be a benefit to the world. Same with the Enquirer and all the other bullshit as fact orgs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:36:35am
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MsJ  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:38:42am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

an airplane?

That’s what I thought…but as it got closer I thought it was maybe a cement mixer.

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:38:58am

re: #330 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The video was damning evidence

That is some fine bubba engineering there, I tell ya!

I love the landing ramp…designed for that truck to be about 30 feet in the air and coming down at a 50° angle. Too bad it wasn’t needed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:39:20am

lol

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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:41:02am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can you imagine the crowds that will pay to attend Donald Trump’s post-presidency book tour? I can’t wait (for the post-presidency part).

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MsJ  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:45:25am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:45:59am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

Irony has been burned at the stack, its ashes scattered to the wind, only to have been gathered up again, re-assembled, hanged, disemboweled and quartered.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:46:34am

re: #353 stpaulbear

Can you imagine the crowds that will pay to attend Donald Trump’s post-presidency book tour? I can’t wait (for the post-presidency part).

You can expect every Jesusbot to show up desiring to kiss the ass of Gawd’s Man!

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:47:46am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

A TIE Fighter…. with a couple of stormtroopers hanging out waiting for a repair crew I’m guessing.

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Jay C  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:47:59am

re: #353 stpaulbear

Can you imagine the crowds that will pay to attend Donald Trump’s post-presidency book tour? I can’t wait (for the post-presidency part).

What kind of “book” is the Orange Anus likely to “write” as a post-Presidential memoir? A compendium of reprinted tweets? And sprinkled with ads for Trump properties?

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:48:16am

Lou Dobbs is taking the news well…

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:48:18am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

When someone asks for a definition of irony, we can point to that.

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:49:04am

re: #359 Targetpractice

It was a judge Trump appointed.

Go pound sand Dobbs.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:49:32am

re: #359 Targetpractice

Lou Dobbs is taking the news well…

The senile Nazi is using MAGA and AmericaFirst hashtags while bitching about the first amendment. FFS

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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:49:41am

re: #351 ObserverArt

That is some fine bubba engineering there, I tell ya!

I love the landing ramp…designed for that truck to be about 30 feet in the air and coming down at a 50° angle. Too bad it wasn’t needed.

I have a feeling that other ramp was for bicycles. I love how the truck ramp just shatters into a million pieces.

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:51:01am

I continue to believe the White House is gonna take a “That is his decision, now let him enforce it!” attitude towards today’s face-plant.

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TedStriker  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:52:05am

re: #357 lawhawk

A TIE Fighter…. with a couple of stormtroopers hanging out waiting for a repair crew I’m guessing.

Indeed it is.

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KGxvi  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:52:31am

re: #86 gocart mozart

The fact that she fights back effectively probably pisses them off even more.

Kind of like the Parkland kids. The old white guys adopted the internet, by these younger folk were born into it.

The Dark Knight Rises ” You think darkness is your ally…”

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KGxvi  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:54:48am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

Well OC, looks like you flipped the 45th.

Cisnercos has also taken the lead against Kim (this is the Nixon Library district, it also includes parts of LA and San Bernardino counties). Orange County is going to have no Republicans representing it in Congress, which is really flabbergasting.

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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:56:28am

re: #358 Jay C

What kind of “book” is the Orange Anus likely to “write” as a post-Presidential memoir? A compendium of reprinted tweets? And sprinkled with ads for Trump properties?

“How Everyone Else Ruined My Beautiful Plans”

You know that there’s someone out there who’s dying to ghost-write it for him.

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KGxvi  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:56:58am

re: #108 Blind Frog Belly White

No surprise to anyone who’s spent a lot of time in northeastern small towns.

Urban vs rural has been one of the main political fault lines in this country since [checks notes] 1776.

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:57:18am

re: #358 Jay C

What kind of “book” is the Orange Anus likely to “write” as a post-Presidential memoir? A compendium of reprinted tweets? And sprinkled with ads for Trump properties?

I saw pretty much that exact book when we visited the Newseum in DC last month - a collection of tweets entitled ‘Shit My President Says.’

Nope, didn’t buy it.

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2018 • 8:59:26am

re: #359 Targetpractice

Our district courts are filled with farcical excuses for judges:

Gee, Louie. And who, exactly, appointed that ‘farcical excuse for a judge’?

I think Dobbs’ hair dye has seeped into his brain.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:00:20am
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Mike Lamb  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:01:27am

The next presser with Acosta is going to be fun…

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Kilroy was here  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:01:55am

re: #350 MsJ

That’s what I thought…but as it got closer I thought it was maybe a cement mixer.

It a crashed Tie Fighter.. notice the storm troopers standing next to it as the car drive by.

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KGxvi  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:02:19am

re: #134 bratwurst

If not rain, some solid Santa Ana winds in the south

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dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:03:10am

that redefining the kilogram takes effect on May 20, 2019.

do we get an extra hour of sleep the night before?

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:05:08am

re: #359 Targetpractice

I think Lou Dobbs has forfeited the right to use the word “puerile.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:06:36am
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MsJ  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:06:48am

re: #358 Jay C

What kind of “book” is the Orange Anus likely to “write” as a post-Presidential memoir? A compendium of reprinted tweets? And sprinkled with ads for Trump properties?

As long as he writes it in prison, he can write whatever he would like.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:07:45am
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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:09:36am

re: #134 bratwurst

The Hill

@thehill
Trump to visit California as wildfires rage on hill.cm

Won’t a Trump visit to the fire area ground all air traffic?

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dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:10:50am

regarding the shooting of Jemel Roberson, the security guard in the bar outside chicago, the police are leaning their story to how he was dressed (or wasnt dressed):

In its release, state police said Roberson was wearing “plain black clothing with no markings readily identifying him as a Security Guard.” However, Myrickes [a witness] said all the security guards wore knit hats emblazoned with the word “Security” on them and that Roberson wore a black sweat shirt with the word “Security” on the back of shoulder. But he also acknowledged that it’s possible the officer could not see the white lettering from where he was standing.

there’s a thousand things wrong with what the cop did (imo) and how fast he did it

focusing only on the statement above, of course this is nothing new….

someone wants to shoot up a bar, he gets himself a shirt, jacket and cap with “Security” written on it and goes in….

it doesnt even have to be the ‘official’ uniform of the bar

another after the fact let’s concoct a story so its ok what the cop did

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Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:10:57am

re: #378 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The last lines say it all:

“We will also further develop rules and processes to ensure fair and orderly press conferences in the future. There must be decorum at the White House.”

They’re effectively saying that they’re going to write rules saying that Acosta has to obey orders when told to shut up and sit down, or else they’ll pull his pass again and he won’t be getting it back.

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dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:12:43am

re: #373 Mike Lamb

The next presser with Acosta is going to be fun…

im sure he’s working on an outstanding opener question…

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KGxvi  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:13:22am

re: #373 Mike Lamb

The next presser with Acosta is going to be fun…

They’re going to ignore him at the next presser.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:14:24am

re: #233 teleskiguy

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Amazing and gratifying, especially to old timers. Even when I was a Republican, the OC Repubs seemed like an especially mean, nasty, arrogant bunch, the epicenter of “I’ve got mine, now fuck the rest of you!”

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dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:14:27am

re: #378 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

wouldnt it be outstanding if the judge tweeted “i didnt say that”

388
dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:15:46am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

it looks like you and i may have the same marble bread board
(and rolling pin?)

389
dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:16:14am

re: #381 stpaulbear

Won’t a Trump visit to the fire area ground all air traffic?

watch him try and count it as a war zone

390
Targetpractice  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:18:28am

The White House seems to have gotten the message the judge intended to send, which was “You morons can’t throw him out for breaking the rules if the rules weren’t clearly posted!” So now they’re going to go back, write up rules under which Acosta must operate if he wants to remain in the press pool, and when they yank the pass again they’ll have a better argument than “Look at this doctored video!”

391
makeitstop  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:18:35am

re: #385 KGxvi

They’re going to ignore him at the next presser.

And every subsequent presser, I’d bet.

392
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:19:54am
393
Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:20:25am

re: #385 KGxvi

They’re going to ignore him at the next presser.

Not really sure Trump can manage that. No impulse control.

Here’s what I think happened, really - The morning after the election, things looked a lot rosier for Trump and the GOP. So many commentators saw the election day results and thought “No Blue Wave” (I’m looking at YOU, James Carville), so Trump was feeling pretty full of himself, and wanted to flex his muscles. So they set Acosta up, so that the Mic Girls would grab his mic away from him, to show the new, tougher Trump, now vindicated by a better-than-expected showing in the election.

Same thing with firing Sessions.

But as the week wore on, it became clear that things weren’t as rosy as all that, leading to Trump sulking in his hotel room in France, and rage tweeting about Mueller.

394
dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:20:56am

re: #386 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Amazing and gratifying, especially to old timers. Even when I was a Republican, the OC Repubs seemed like an especially mean, nasty, arrogant bunch, the epicenter of “I’ve got mine, now fuck the rest of you!”

sam seaborn got creamed when he ran for the CA-47
though that was around 2002….

this is….gratifying

395
dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:22:08am

re: #385 KGxvi

They’re going to ignore him at the next presser.

maybe just once the press corps will unite and no one else will raise a hand

396
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:24:16am
397
makeitstop  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:24:16am

re: #393 Blind Frog Belly White

Not really sure Trump can manage that. No impulse control.

Here’s what I think happened, really - The morning after the election, things looked a lot rosier for Trump and the GOP. So many commentators saw the election day results and thought “No Blue Wave” (I’m looking at YOU, James Carville), so Trump was feeling pretty full of himself, and wanted to flex his muscles. So they set Acosta up, so that the Mic Girls would grab his mic away from him, to show the new, tougher Trump, now vindicated by a better-than-expected showing in the election.

Same thing with firing Sessions.

But as the week wore on, it became clear that things weren’t as rosy as all that, leading to Trump sulking in his hotel room in France, and rage tweeting about Mueller.

But the ‘daily’ presser (such as it is) is run by Sanders, and she’s got way more message discipline than her boss.

398
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:24:57am

Vote.
It matters

399
dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:25:28am

re: #393 Blind Frog Belly White

Not really sure Trump can manage that. No impulse control.

Here’s what I think happened, really - The morning after the election, things looked a lot rosier for Trump and the GOP. So many commentators saw the election day results and thought “No Blue Wave” (I’m looking at YOU, James Carville), so Trump was feeling pretty full of himself, and wanted to flex his muscles. So they set Acosta up, so that the Mic Girls would grab his mic away from him, to show the new, tougher Trump, now vindicated by a better-than-expected showing in the election.

Same thing with firing Sessions.

But as the week wore on, it became clear that things weren’t as rosy as all that, leading to Trump sulking in his hotel room in France, and rage tweeting about Mueller.

never tip your hand until the actual, final results are known
- election night is meaningless

- what is this moranic obsession with state laws mandating that the vote counts have to be done by x date and time? if they drag their feet, it’s ok that legitimate votes dont get counted?

due diligence, best efforts, it takes as long as it takes.

400
KGxvi  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:25:49am

re: #386 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Amazing and gratifying, especially to old timers. Even when I was a Republican, the OC Repubs seemed like an especially mean, nasty, arrogant bunch, the epicenter of “I’ve got mine, now fuck the rest of you!”

39, 47, and 49 aren’t solely Orange County. 39 includes LA and San Bernardino counties, Hacienda Heights and Chino areas. 47 includes a large portion of Long Beach, and 49 includes parts of San Diego county.

In the 39th and 49th, the Orange County portion of the vote still went to the Republican.

But as I said above, it is still amazing to see that Orange County has no Republicans in Congress anymore.

401
Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:27:32am

re: #359 Targetpractice

Lou Dobbs is taking the news well…

FARCICAL AND PUERILE!!!!!!

Obviously, drump must drain the swamp of….drump judicial appointees.

402
MsJ  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:28:40am

re: #385 KGxvi

They’re going to ignore him at the next presser.

Which is what they should have done to begin with. They brought all this on themselves.

As usual.

403
Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:30:01am

re: #383 Targetpractice

The last lines say it all:

They’re effectively saying that they’re going to write rules saying that Acosta has to obey orders when told to shut up and sit down, or else they’ll pull his pass again and he won’t be getting it back.

How can there be decorum at the WH with president ragey mcgrumpyface in the WH?

404
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:30:10am
405
makeitstop  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:30:37am

re: #402 MsJ

Which is what they should have done to begin with. They brought all this on themselves.

As usual.

It’s a condition with these assholes - they ignore the most simple solution and replace it with one intended to be as mean and vindictive as they can make it.

And it never fucking works. You’d think that two years in, they would have learned that by now.

406
nicdanger  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:31:03am

re: #372 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m sure there was no,uhm,lets say pressure from various other parties helping Grassley make this decision.Lindsey has made it known he wants that chair,as he intends to further investigate Hillary,etc. You know ,the bad things that democrats were doing…

407
KGxvi  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:31:06am

re: #405 makeitstop

It’s a condition with these assholes - they ignore the most simple solution and replace it with one intended to be as mean and vindictive as they can make it.

And it never fucking works. You’d think that two years in, they would have learned that by now.

It’s the scorpion and the swan.

408
MsJ  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:31:56am

re: #398 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Vote.
It matters

GAH!!

The state GOP is set to have a 61-seat supermajority in the legislature should the results stand.

409
makeitstop  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:33:59am

Wait, what? The manual recount for Broward is done already?

410
KGxvi  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:37:01am

re: #409 makeitstop

Wait, what? The manual recount for Broward is done already?

I’m beginning to think Rick Scott really is Voldemort… the only thing that explains him continually winning (besides “Florida”) is dark magic.

411
MsJ  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:37:20am

re: #405 makeitstop

It’s a condition with these assholes - they ignore the most simple solution and replace it with one intended to be as mean and vindictive as they can make it.

And it never fucking works. You’d think that two years in, they would have learned that by now.

412
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:39:26am

Surfs up

413
KGxvi  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:41:06am

re: #412 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

no blue wave, Republicans still have 200 seats, no blue wave. it’s just the cucks and rinos that lost.

414
Unshaken Defiance  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:45:44am

re: #399 dangerman

never tip your hand until the actual, final results are known
- election night is meaningless

- what is this moranic obsession with state laws mandating that the vote counts have to be done by x date and time? if they drag their feet, it’s ok that legitimate votes dont get counted?

due diligence, best efforts, it takes as long as it takes.

I agree, but I think there are constitutional limits that current events have stale dated badly.

415
lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:47:00am

This is a Daily Caller guy, but the information seems accurate enough.

Trump is a habitual liar and he knows that Mueller’s got him dead to rights, so he’s left playing - I know you are but what am I, whoever supplied it denied it, and projection like IMAX.

Trump knows Mueller’s got him, but Trump has to say/do anything everything to smear Mueller in the eyes of his cult of GOP and know nothing supporters because they’re the only ones supporting this corrupt admin.

416
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:48:05am

re: #415 lawhawk

f course, they could be reporting on his report

417
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:48:47am
418
Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:49:30am

re: #416 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

f course, they could be reporting on his report

He has to have Kelly, Melania and Ivanka check them over for spelling, use of proper English, lies, etc.

419
Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:50:52am

re: #415 lawhawk

“You always have to be careful answering questions for people who have bad intentions.”

Doesn’t seem like a Smart way to respond when Obstruction of justice charges are possible.

/

420
lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:52:37am

re: #414 Unshaken Defiance

I agree, but I think there are constitutional limits that current events have stale dated badly.

There’s a good reason to have elections validated and made official within a reasonable time. The system in place should be equipped to handle every goddamned eligible voter for that locality/state. It clearly isn’t, as witnessed by the problems across the nation due to heavy turnout.

But these issues are the result of states controlling the process, and the process favors the incumbents of both parties. They don’t care about expanding voter access and ease to vote, because incumbents might lose.

To fix:
1) every state should adopt nonpartisan panel to draw district lines for congressional districts and state legislatures and local races.
2) every state should adopt early voting
3) every state should adopt automatic voter registration
4) every state should adopt process by which every locality is able to handle turnout of 100% of eligible voters for that district, and that they have enough machines/scanners to handle crowd.

Many states look to NY as proof they don’t need to do any of the above, so if you want to move the needle, you need to demand NYS enable the above (and more).

421
lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:55:05am
422
The Vicious Babushka  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:55:47am

re: #388 dangerman

it looks like you and i may have the same marble bread board
(and rolling pin?)

Mine is from Sur La Table.

423
lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 9:57:55am

Shit: death toll from wildfires is up to 66.

424
makeitstop  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:01:27am

In other news…so much winning. ///

425
Sufficient unto the day...  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:03:01am

A wee bit of silliness involving the Ancient Aliens Guy…

426
Mike Lamb  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:04:20am

re: #415 lawhawk

“You always have to be careful answering questions for people who have bad intentions.”

Like the citizenship question on the census?

427
dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:07:58am

re: #405 makeitstop

It’s a condition with these assholes - they ignore the most simple solution and replace it with one intended to be as mean and vindictive as they can make it.

And it never fucking works. You’d think that two years in, they would have learned that by now.

shirley, you jest

428
dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:11:21am

re: #414 Unshaken Defiance

I agree, but I think there are constitutional limits that current events have stale dated badly.

yup

429
Unshaken Defiance  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:13:03am

re: #423 lawhawk

Shit: death toll from wildfires is up to 66.

That’s going to rise until they search the last block of homes and it’s just heart shattering sad. We don’t think of town going up. We think up the canyon, in the hills. West Hills (mil home) had a tiny few homes go at the edges. no injuries. That was again unprecedented and in areas more recently built into desert brush sandstone hillsides. The Camp fire has rightly undermined our middle class tract home “in town” confidence. This is climate change and human expansion in a terrible venn diagram.

430
Archangelus  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:15:47am

Someone really should let Darth Orange know that he’s the one person in the whole wide world he can’t actually fire.. and broadcast the ensuing meltdown on Pay Per View for a few easy millions… xD

431
lawhawk  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:15:58am

re: #427 dangerman

Surely you can’t be serious.

I am, but don’t call me surly (or Shirley).

432
Belafon  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:17:19am

re: #430 Archangelus

Someone really should let Darth Orange know that he’s the one person in the whole wide world he can’t actually fire.. and broadcast the ensuing meltdown on Pay Per View for a few easy millions… xD

He can drop him from the ticket, so I think he understands he can’t fire him. The last time changing VPs occurred I believe was FDR.

433
MsJ  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:18:33am

re: #430 Archangelus

Someone really should let Darth Orange know that he’s the one person in the whole wide world he can’t actually fire.. and broadcast the ensuing meltdown on Pay Per View for a few easy millions… xD

He could cajole pence into quitting. Then Lindsay could be the Veep. Or Nunes. Or Rohrabacher. Or fucking Putin himself.

434
Kragar  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:18:40am
435
dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:18:48am

re: #420 lawhawk

There’s a good reason to have elections validated and made official within a reasonable time. The system in place should be equipped to handle every goddamned eligible voter for that locality/state. It clearly isn’t, as witnessed by the problems across the nation due to heavy turnout.

But these issues are the result of states controlling the process, and the process favors the incumbents of both parties. They don’t care about expanding voter access and ease to vote, because incumbents might lose.

To fix:
1) every state should adopt nonpartisan panel to draw district lines for congressional districts and state legislatures and local races.
2) every state should adopt early voting
3) every state should adopt automatic voter registration
4) every state should adopt process by which every locality is able to handle turnout of 100% of eligible voters for that district, and that they have enough machines/scanners to handle crowd.

Many states look to NY as proof they don’t need to do any of the above, so if you want to move the needle, you need to demand NYS enable the above (and more).

i really should bold the whole thing

and i will add that “the system” is really two parts (registration / booting people off the rolls is a different problem)

- capacity on election day - the long lines / wait
- capacity to count quickly and accurately which includes verifying mail in ballots (and that could be done before election day, as received)

436
wrenchwench  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:20:13am

re: #429 Unshaken Defiance

That’s going to rise until they search the last block of homes and it’s just heart shattering sad. We don’t think of town going up. We think up the canyon, in the hills. West Hills (mil home) had a tiny few homes go at the edges. no injuries. That was again unprecedented and in areas more recently built into desert brush sandstone hillsides. The Camp fire has rightly undermined our middle class tract home “in town” confidence. This is climate change and human expansion in a terrible venn diagram.

In NM in 2012, we had the largest fire ever in the state (at that time…). 250,000 acres, only lost 12 structures. Send us all your fires, we got nuthin’ to burn!

437
dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:21:22am

re: #422 The Vicious Babushka

Mine is from Sur La Table.

looks the same
i cant remember where ours came from - back in 80’s some time

438
Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:22:21am

re: #434 Kragar

Trump won’t visit troops in war zones because he doesn’t believe they should be there rawstory.com

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 16, 2018

I can hardly wait to hear the Nazis defend this pool of bullshit.

439
Hecuba's daughter  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:24:06am

re: #420 lawhawk


But these issues are the result of states controlling the process, and the process favors the incumbents of both parties. They don’t care about expanding voter access and ease to vote, because incumbents might lose.

To fix:
1) every state should adopt nonpartisan panel to draw district lines for congressional districts and state legislatures and local races.
2) every state should adopt early voting
3) every state should adopt automatic voter registration
4) every state should adopt process by which every locality is able to handle turnout of 100% of eligible voters for that district, and that they have enough machines/scanners to handle crowd.

Many states look to NY as proof they don’t need to do any of the above, so if you want to move the needle, you need to demand NYS enable the above (and more).

Expansion on 2 above: early voting locations should be convenient, easily accessible, and open for sufficient hours and days to accommodate those workers with difficult schedules, who have no flexibility in the work hours. For example — have 24 hour, 7 days a week for at least one week.

Expansion on 4 above: the voting polls need to be convenient to voters. No more games like Dodge City, Kansas where the polling station was moved outside of town with the implicit intention of reducing turnout.

There also need to be
>> modern voting equipment with paper trails,
>> appropriate design of ballots to avoid confusion, and
>> final count based on the paper NOT the machines, to double-check and avoid bugs in the software.

The experts need to develop a consistent ballot design to eliminate potential confusion. I realize that ballot design can be complicated because the ballots may differ significantly even between counties and voting districts in the same state. For example, my ballot had 59 judges up for retention and 11 judicial vacancies — the neighboring county had only 4 judges; my ballot had 5 referendum, but neighboring districts (in the same county) had only three or 4 referendum.

440
Archangelus  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:24:44am

re: #432 Belafon

He can drop him from the ticket, so I think he understands he can’t fire him. The last time changing VPs occurred I believe was FDR.

True. But it’s a no-win scenario for them.
Dropping Pence would totally enrage the religious right, who will see it as betrayal on the part of the heathen they’ve tolerated dumping their golden boy. The ensuing chaos could decimate the GOP from within and at the polls.
And who could replace him? Who would want to take the chance, knowing that Trump is the Opposite King Midas, whose touch turns anything even remotely golden to bovine excrement?

…All of which is why i’m absolutely all for it of course. :D

441
ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:25:03am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

Mmmm. That looks yummy.

What do you use for the substitute for the cream and eggs?

442
dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:25:05am

re: #431 lawhawk

Surely you can’t be serious.

I am, but don’t call me surly (or Shirley).

Shirely Yougest - i dated her once
we may have doubled with Rosemary Potatoes

443
makeitstop  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:25:20am

re: #423 lawhawk

Shit: death toll from wildfires is up to 66.

And they’re saying up to 600 missing. Tragic.

444
dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:25:49am

re: #432 Belafon

He can drop him from the ticket, so I think he understands he can’t fire him. The last time changing VPs occurred I believe was FDR.

ford, i think

rockefeller / dole

445
Archangelus  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:26:43am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

* Reaches out desperately and bangs his hands against the screen *

Ouch!
Oh well, was worth a shot… :D

446
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:29:53am
447
goddamnedfrank  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:29:53am

re: #430 Archangelus

Someone really should let Darth Orange know that he’s the one person in the whole wide world he can’t actually fire.. and broadcast the ensuing meltdown on Pay Per View for a few easy millions… xD

Trump is probably right to be suspicious of Pence’s loyalty, I still think Pence wrote the anonymous NYT op-ed. And while Trump might have needed Pence in 2016 to shore up the evangelicals he doesn’t now, Trump could literally sprout horns and those soulless fucks would still support him.

448
KGxvi  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:38:26am

re: #430 Archangelus

Someone really should let Darth Orange know that he’s the one person in the whole wide world he can’t actually fire.. and broadcast the ensuing meltdown on Pay Per View for a few easy millions… xD

Well, he could fire him in 2020. But I could also imagine that leading to some sort of floor fight.

And before you say there’s no way there’d be a floor fight in a modern convention, just remember in the last 25 years we’ve seen: a president impeached; two presidents win the electoral college while losing the popular vote; a black man as president; a woman as speaker of the house; a woman nominated for president by a major party (who also won the popular vote).

449
Kragar  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:38:26am
450
ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:38:26am

re: #434 Kragar

Kragar
@Kragar_LGF
Trump won’t visit troops in war zones because he doesn’t believe they should be there rawstory.com

12:59 PM - Nov 16, 2018
Twitter Ads info and privacy

He’s an asshole. Look at that smug face in the image.

He doesn’t want to be in or anywhere near a war zone because he’s a fucking chickenhawk…like so many tough guy Republicans.

Well, he might go to the war zone on the border. He likes that one.

Fucker.

451
ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:41:27am

re: #438 Dr. Matt

I can hardly wait to hear the Nazis defend this pool of bullshit.

American Fascist Defense: You always protect your leader, you never put them in danger.

Long live the King!

452
dangerman  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:44:43am

re: #449 Kragar

POTUS says the WH is “writing up rules and regulations” for the press. When pushed what he means by that he said: “Decorum. You have to practice decorum.”

knowing this lot, whatever they write is gonna get challenged

453
Jebediah, RBG  Nov 16, 2018 • 10:51:12am

re: #119 Belafon

Good job, Son of Belafon!

454
Eventual Carrion  Nov 16, 2018 • 11:06:22am

re: #343 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I should turn off my computer, and leave the internet on a high note

Our corgi, Tippy Tank, sure didn’t float well.

Wife and I took him to a local lake to run around. As we pulled up we didn’t see the goose over by the water, but Tippy sure did. As soon as the wife opened the door, off he went. I thought the goose would get in the water and be away way before Tippy got there, but his little corgi legs were moving.

He made it to the water as the goose was about 4 - 5 feet into the water from the shore. In goes Tippy swimming after the goose. The goose just kept paddling further out into the water. Soon Tippy noticed that he couldn’t touch bottom and he turned around. But he was a good 20 feet or so from shore. He made it back to shore but swallowed a good bit of water and hacked it up on the shore.

That dog was a real nut, and the most lovable little fellow you would ever want to meet.

455
sagehen  Nov 16, 2018 • 11:08:28am

re: #444 dangerman

ford, i think

rockefeller / dole

That could have been at least partly for health reasons; Rockefeller died of probably a heart attack in 1979.
(in the presence of a 25-year-old woman who worked for him; who took more than an hour to call for an ambulance. there was no autopsy.)

456
Eventual Carrion  Nov 16, 2018 • 11:17:16am

re: #376 dangerman

that redefining the kilogram takes effect on May 20, 2019.

do we get an extra hour of sleep the night before?

No, but you get an extra dram of milk at bedtime.


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VULFPECK /// Half of the Way (Feat. Theo Katzman) VULFPECK /// Half of the Waybuy on bandcamp → vuuulf.com Theo Katzman — vocalsLarry Goldings — piano, composerRyan Lerman — guitar, composer, engineerJoey Dosik — saxWoody Goss — tambourineJack Stratton — drums, mixingJoe Dart — fender bassCory Wong — ...
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Storyhill - Blazing Out of Sight (Live at Radio Heartland)Storyhill perform "Blazing Out of Sight," from their 2007 self-titled album as well from the 2018 compilation, "Stages," live at Radio Heartland.
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How Smooth Jazz Took Over the ’90s You should give smooth jazz a chance. Subscribe to our channel! goo.gl Smooth jazz has gotten a bad rap for decades. It’s often associated with background music for elevators or the soundtrack at the dentist office. Smooth jazz is ...
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Feds Target Butina’s GOP Boyfriend as Foreign Agent Paul Erickson, a longtime Republican politico whose Russian girlfriend is in jail on charges she acted as a covert foreign agent, has been informed that he may face similar accusations. The Daily Beast reviewed a so-called “target letter” that ...
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Police: Charge Benjamin and Sara Netanyahu With Bribery in Telecom Case - Israel News - Haaretz.com The police and Israel Securities Authority on Sunday recommended indicting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyau and his wife, Sara, as well as media mogul Shaul Elovitch and his wife, Iris, for bribery and other corruption charges in the investigation dubbed ...
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