The Bob Cesca Podcast: A Rainbow of Deception

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

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A Rainbow Of Deception — NSFW; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Our first episode on the Sexy Liberal Podcast Network; Welcome to new listeners; Trump and impeachment; Trump orders federal agents to break the law and defy the courts; The DHS purge; Stephen Miller needs to be subpoenaed; He just wants to separate families; Bill Barr’s testimony about the Mueller Report; Barr is the lawyer version of Dick Cheney; Adam McKay’s Vice; Witnesses are terrified Trump will see their testimony; With music by Young Gun Silver Fox and C.C. Grace; and much more.

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374 comments
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Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:49:58pm

From downstairs:

re: #380 freetoken

It appears as if the EU still wants a soft transition and will offer the UK a long extension. But May wants a short extension of course, so she can pretend to be listening to those who want to leave the EU. If she agrees to a one year delay the Brexiteers will riot.

I genuinely don’t believe it’s about protecting the party when it comes to May, it’s about preserving her “legacy” as the woman who oversaw a successful Brexit. It’s why she’s insisted on remaining as PM despite successive failures that would have forced any other PM to bow out.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:00:35pm

Reality is incomparably more glorious and spectacular than the tawdry fantasies of the superstitious and the gullible.
(best in full screen)

Tempest Milky Way

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:00:38pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

I guess everyone will find out tomorrow if May is going to go along with the EU proposal of a long delay.

If she does, how will she face parliament? The Brexiteers will start throwing their shoes at her.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:07:15pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:16:07pm

re: #3 freetoken

I guess everyone will find out tomorrow if May is going to go along with the EU proposal of a long delay.

If she does, how will she face parliament? The Brexiteers will start throwing their shoes at her.

Well, if she had an ounce of dignity, it would be by announcing her immediate resignation. Because there’s not really a Plan B (or C, D, E, F, etc) anymore, all she keeps doing is trying to push short deadlines on the EU in the hope that the backbenchers in her own party will finally bend to his demands to pass a deal when they’d rather the whole nation slide into the Channel.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:17:41pm

Remember that Asian-American doctor forcibly removed from a United Airlines flight? He spent months recovering from his injuries and still cannot run or walk as easily as he did before the assault. He and and United settled out of court for a confidential sum. Details at the link.

abcnews.go.com

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:18:43pm

Reload my 6. I dropped the wrong link.

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unproven innocence  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:22:09pm

re: #6 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Remember that Asian-American doctor forcibly removed from a United Airlines flight? He spent months recovering from his injuries and still cannot run or walk as easily as he did before the assault. He and and United settled out of court for a confidential sum. Details at the link.

abcnews.go.com

From your link —wow!

Dao said he stood his ground and refused to get off the plane because he felt he was being discriminated against and was trying to get back to Kentucky to oversee the opening of a clinic he founded for U.S. veterans. He and his wife started the clinic as a way to thank American servicemen and women, because he was plucked out of ocean waters by the U.S. Navy as he fled communism in his home country of Vietnam about 44 years ago, he said.

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Teukka  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:22:27pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:25:48pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

Well, if she had an ounce of dignity, it would be by announcing her immediate resignation. Because there’s not really a Plan B (or C, D, E, F, etc) anymore, all she keeps doing is trying to push short deadlines on the EU in the hope that the backbenchers in her own party will finally bend to his demands to pass a deal when they’d rather the whole nation slide into the Channel.

A cousin held a very senior position on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange until she decided to retire about 5 years ago. For the first time in a few years I saw her the other day but we only had a couple minutes to chat. Her feeling is that Europe is in dire straits and that Brexit is the right way to go. Sort of an each country for itself mentality. Given the time constraints, I couldn’t pursue a further discussion of her perspective. We will see soon — or maybe not if there is an extension.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:29:25pm

Has Candy gone on Fox yet and whined about how Ted Lieu embarrassed her?

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:37:11pm

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

Has Candy gone on Fox yet and whined about how Ted Lieu embarrassed her?

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If any of her supporters viewed this exchange, they would probably feel that Ted did a dishonest gotcha. They are incapable of independent thought or analysis and will accept anything that Q or Fox talk shows tell them.

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mmmirele  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:41:22pm

re: #9 Teukka

If the Gulf Stream slows down a lot, there’s going to be serious trouble.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:45:51pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:46:16pm

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

Has Candy gone on Fox yet and whined about how Ted Lieu embarrassed her?

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I’m not sure if she’s been interviewed by them yet, but the top story on their site (as of now) is presenting Lieu as having taken her comments “out of context” and Owens’ little tirade as though she were the victim of a gotcha moment.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:49:16pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

I’m not sure if she’s been interviewed by them yet, but the top story on their site (as of now) is presenting Lieu as having taken her comments “out of context” and Owens’ little tirade as though she were the victim of a gotcha moment.

Not surprised at all.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 9, 2019 • 10:10:05pm
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mmmirele  Apr 9, 2019 • 10:11:26pm

Oh my gosh! A group of people in Seattle has published a parody Chick tract!

seattletimes.com

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 9, 2019 • 10:24:20pm

re: #8 unproven innocence

A member of my family once worked in the same hospital as Dr Dao, and said he is a very nice, patient man. But his patience apparently was quickly exhausted by United Airlines staff.

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Teukka  Apr 9, 2019 • 10:33:36pm

re: #13 mmmirele

If the Gulf Stream slows down a lot, there’s going to be serious trouble.

AMOC misbehaving or NOPEing spells very bad Ju-Ju.

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Teukka  Apr 9, 2019 • 10:35:03pm

In other news:

*gloats*

Copyright takedown :)

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Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2019 • 10:41:56pm

re: #21 Teukka

In other news:

[Embedded content]

*gloats*

Copyright takedown :)

“THIS IS PROOF THAT SOCIAL MEDIA IS BIASED AGAINST CONSERVATIVES!!!!”

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Teukka  Apr 9, 2019 • 10:43:35pm

re: #22 Targetpractice

“THIS IS PROOF THAT SOCIAL MEDIA IS BIASED AGAINST CONSERVATIVES!!!!”

[answer type=rhetorical]
The intellectual property laws, which your party helped put on the books, are the same for all. You do not use someones music without permission and without reimbursing its creator.
[/answer]

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2019 • 10:51:20pm
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Teukka  Apr 9, 2019 • 10:55:20pm

Note 2019-04-20 in the calendar for possible alt-Reich shenanigans:

Edit: this post was inlcuded in Emily G’s tweet:

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 9, 2019 • 11:02:51pm

re: #25 Teukka

Note 2019-04-20 in the calendar for possible alt-Reich shenanigans:

[Embedded content]

Yeah, I’m just gonna get stoned with my daughter and celebrate her 24th Bday.

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Teukka  Apr 9, 2019 • 11:07:54pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 9, 2019 • 11:10:48pm

Candace Owens is a witting or unwitting modern-day version of Steppin Fetchit. As are Diamond and Silk. They are being used by their white manipulators/sponsors to provide a false “face” to white nationalism. I hope they have peers who are willing to call them out to their face for being Uncle Toms.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 9, 2019 • 11:12:01pm

Gotta go teach. BBL

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Teukka  Apr 9, 2019 • 11:17:14pm

Comic Relief:

Facebook Post

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:20:02am
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:14:06am

re: #32 freetoken

Was it you that posted Perry Como last night? ‘Cause fuck you, I can’t get this damn song out of my head! //

Perry Como - Delaware

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:29:19am

Randy Newman - Political Science (Let’s Drop the Big One Now) - SD

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freetoken  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:41:54am

re: #33 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

I proposed it as punishment for David Nunes.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:01:09am

re: #35 freetoken

I proposed it as punishment for David Nunes.

I still listened to a lot of the 5 hour ‘clip’. Between Night Court and Blast from the Past I got to like Perry.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:04:04am
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:11:53am
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freetoken  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:38:35am

Liberace Performs ‘Piccolo Pete’

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:08:03am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:11:27am

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Reality is incomparably more glorious and spectacular than the tawdry fantasies of the superstitious and the gullible.
(best in full screen)

[Embedded content]

Speaking of which, in less than an hour (9 am ET) we get to see the black hole at the center of our galaxy (maybe).

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:21:00am

re: #17 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Ned Price
✔
@nedprice
.@StateDept Iran Coordinator Brian Hook says Iran must “end the pursuit of nuclear weapons.” It has! Hook’s own Department & US intelligence have confirmed that repeatedly.

Why would @nytopinion allow him to make such a false & dangerous statement?nytimes.com …

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11:10 AM - Apr 9, 2019

This is an opinion piece; not a news piece. It’s written by a State Department official, not a NY Times columnist. It’s an official statement from the government. It’s not a Judith Miller article. Hopefully there will be a NY Times response from their actual staff.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:26:45am
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Citizen K  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:32:45am

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

It’s hard to read a thread like that, and then go back to the hearing yesterday on everything but white nationalism and not feel despaired at how thoroughly the right-wing owns the entire fucking discourse.

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jeffreyw  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:34:08am

Good morning!

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:36:10am

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

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Amory Blaine  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:37:37am

Live feed

National Science Foundation/Event Horizon Telescope press conference

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:48:03am

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

That really speaks to Trump’s mindset and his ego, the idea that if you don’t slap your name on something in big and gaudy letters, then nobody will give you credit for it and you’ll look small by comparison.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:49:57am

re: #48 Targetpractice

That really speaks to Trump’s mindset and his ego, the idea that if you don’t slap your name on something in big and gaudy letters, then nobody will give you credit for it and you’ll look small by comparison.

Did Trump forget the name of the capital city of the USA, where he spends about half his time?

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Citizen K  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:49:58am

There really doesn’t seem to be anything that can’t be forgiven if you hate hard enough. That’s what shit like this signals to me.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:50:05am

re: #47 Amory Blaine

Live feed

[Embedded content]

Video

Here’s their YouTube page steaming the same content.

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2019 • 5:53:47am

re: #21 Teukka

In other news:

[Embedded content]

*gloats*

Copyright takedown :)

Video is back in your post, it was gone last night. ‘Sup with that, Youtube?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:02:48am

re: #50 Citizen K

[Embedded content]

There really doesn’t seem to be anything that can’t be forgiven if you hate hard enough. That’s what shit like this signals to me.

Bannon’s plan to burn it all down will succeed unless we stand up and say ENOUGH!

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Citizen K  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:04:08am

re: #53 Joe Bacon 🌹

Bannon’s plan to burn it all down will succeed unless we stand up and say ENOUGH!

I’m really not sure at this point if that’s even going to be enough. They own too many goddamn levers of power.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:05:30am

re: #30 Teukka

Via Seth Meyers…

Man was out walking his dog in the park and the dog started acting strangely. The guy took the dog to the vet and ran some tests. It appears to have gotten exposed to amphetamines.

As he was leaving the vet, another guy walks in and asks what kind of breed is his dog.

Meth lab.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:05:35am
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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:08:22am

re: #46 Belafon

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:09:52am

re: #54 Citizen K

I’m really not sure at this point if that’s even going to be enough. They own too many goddamn levers of power.

Which is why they still control the House.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:10:22am

re: #55 lawhawk

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:10:22am

re: #31 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

AG Barr is so cocky with his obstructionism. I despair that these sleazy people are getting away with their outrageous conduct. Thank goodness that the Democrats have the House but they need to be much more aggressive.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:10:44am

Looks like the Eye of Sauron!

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:15:47am

Pretty cool music documentary coming in May.

Echo in the Canyon Trailer #1 (2019) | Movieclips Indie

Jakob Dylan is the producer. It looks like he’s put together a pretty good film, with interviews of the Laurel Canyon old head as well as a nice group of younger artists to pay homage to the music.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:16:28am

re: #61 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Looks like the Eye of Sauron!

The last thing you see before you are assimilated into the Singularity.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:23:50am

re: #41 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Speaking of which, in less than an hour (9 am ET) we get to see the black hole at the center of our galaxy (maybe).

Morning!

So, at 9 AM did Trump open his mouth and expose the black hole at the center of our universe?

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:27:54am

re: #48 Targetpractice

That really speaks to Trump’s mindset and his ego, the idea that if you don’t slap your name on something in big and gaudy letters, then nobody will give you credit for it and you’ll look small by comparison.

It really is an admittance that Trump himself does not offer anything himself to be remembered by as far as advancing this country, legislation, good deeds, setting a future path…nothing.

So put up some faux-rich looking bullshit and make that your statement.

I guess he forgets he is going to go down in history as the worst President in US history.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:32:59am

Everything is awful.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:37:26am

I saw the reference to some alt-Reich types doing something on April 20th.

I always worry a bit more about April 19th. That is the day of the Waco cult raid mess and of course the Oklahoma City bombing.

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Citizen K  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:38:22am

re: #58 Belafon

Which is why they still control the House.

The US House is a much needed step, but it doesn’t seem enough to arrest the worst of Trump’s sins here yet, and the rest of the world still seems to be falling under a total right wing swoon that can’t be stopped. Even the minor Brexit sanity seems to be delaying the inevitable rather than stopping the madness in the UK.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:38:53am

re: #51 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Man, this is cool.

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Old Liberal  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:38:58am

re: #66 The Vicious Babushka

Everything is awful.

[Embedded content]

Most humans learn the hard way. Sometimes the very very hard way.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:41:15am

re: #13 mmmirele

If the Gulf Stream slows down a lot, there’s going to be serious trouble.

As long as it stays above Vs

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:45:47am

This is a great photo…

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:46:14am

Remember that story the other day about how most people on the left aren’t as politically in tune as we are? There’s a similar issue with dealing with the conservatives here. I heard someone talking about an acquaintance of hers, who was complaining about Trump. The woman said she told her companion that since she had to deal with eight years of Obama, they can deal with four years of Trump. In other words, she’s so clueless about the effects of Trump that she just equates time in office. And then she’ll wonder what happened to her job if Trump collapses NATO and/or the economy.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:46:53am

re: #68 Citizen K

The US House is a much needed step, but it doesn’t seem enough to arrest the worst of Trump’s sins here yet, and the rest of the world still seems to be falling under a total right wing swoon that can’t be stopped. Even the minor Brexit sanity seems to be delaying the inevitable rather than stopping the madness in the UK.

The clock is ticking for Trump. Against the most unpopular Democratic nominee ever, he lost the popular vote by a big margin and won a razor thin margin by a fluke. He remains just as unpopular as he was then, and the Midwest states he squeaked to victory in were swept by Democrats in the Midterms. It will be very difficult for him to replicate his fluke win in 2016. We must work confident that we can win, but mindful that we can’t take victory for granted.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:46:58am

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

If you need to put your name on stuff so people will remember you, then you didn’t leave an impression on your own

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:50:12am

I’m watching the Weezer Tiny Desk concert, and I agree with Charles. They’re bumming me out here.

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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:50:28am

re: #74 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The clock is ticking for Trump. Against the most unpopular Democratic nominee ever, he lost the popular vote by a big margin and won a razor thin margin by a fluke. He remains just as unpopular as he was then, the Midwest states he squeaked to victory in were swept by Democrats in the Midterms. It will be very difficult for him to replicate his fluke win in 2016. We must work confident that we can win, but mindful that we can’t take victory for granted.

Particularly since he’s lost support by double digits in five key states — including the three he won by less than 100,000 votes combined.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:51:33am

re: #73 Belafon

Remember that story the other day about how most people on the left aren’t as politically in tune as we are? There’s a similar issue with dealing with the conservatives here. I heard someone talking about an acquaintance of hers, who was complaining about Trump. The woman said she told her companion that since she had to deal with eight years of Obama, they can deal with four years of Trump. In other words, she’s so clueless about the effects of Trump that she just equates time in office. And then she’ll wonder what happened to her job if Trump collapses NATO and/or the economy.

In what way do these Trumporrhoids think they “suffered” under Obama? Because the President was a tan suit wearing, mustard & arugula eating Black man?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:52:12am

Welcome to Gilead.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:55:33am

re: #79 The Vicious Babushka

Welcome to Gilead.

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Fortunately a bill that can’t even pass the Senate, much less the House. The GOP needs to get its forced birth army fully activated to win in 2020; this is a messaging bill for them.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:02:33am

re: #78 The Vicious Babushka

In what way do these Trumporrhoids think they “suffered” under Obama? Because the President was a tan suit wearing, mustard & arugula eating Black man?

I’m not even going to ask. We get paid well enough here that what they suffered was not having a “Chistian” in office, which in this case means a Cruisading-Cross-Carrying-Patriot (tm).

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:02:40am

JFC

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:03:31am

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

JFC

“They didn’t make it into a coloring book, so I obviously won.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:05:51am

JFC(2)

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:07:38am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

JFC(2)

Nope, Donny, in America even our president can be investigated.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:09:47am

re: #85 Belafon

Nope, Donny, in America even our president can be investigated.

When Trump says “What they did” he really means “What I did” because he projects like an IMAX in Outer Space.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:10:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:10:54am

He has to be terribly jealous of Bibi: re-elected and safe for the next few years…

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Mike Lamb  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:18:15am

So now he’s outright accusing people of treason as it pertains to the Russia investigation. Swell.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:25:01am

re: #76 makeitstop

I’m watching the Weezer Tiny Desk concert, and I agree with Charles. They’re bumming me out here.

They lost me when they started to redo Toto songs and Take on Me.

Not meant to dump on any Toto fans or lovers of the song Take on Me.

It isn’t Weezer.

That is my opinion, and I’m sticking to it.

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:32:04am

re: #90 ObserverArt

They lost me when they started to redo Toto songs and Take on Me.

Not meant to dump on any Toto fans or lovers of the song Take on Me.

It isn’t Weezer.

That is my opinion, and I’m sticking to it.

They’ve been doing that type of thing for years, can’t hold that against them.

Click to Reveal

I’ve heard stories from people who know that Rivers is seemingly trying to intentionally subvert Weezer for some reason. His producer says that he refuses to put their best material on their album, opting for stuff that’s maybe not as good.

Maybe he’s just tired of being Rivers Cuomo at this point.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:32:59am
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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:33:55am

re: #79 The Vicious Babushka

Welcome to Gilead.

[Embedded content]

Ohio is voting on their third attempt to push through their fetal heartbeat bill.

Now called the Human Rights and Heartbeat Protection Act.

And as everyone is saying, it will end up in the courts where the real fight will be to overturn Roe V Wade.

Iframe

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:36:22am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

JFC(2)

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I like how he always stops so he can come up with some bullshit. This time he just repeats the same bullshit.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:37:00am

Well this is just fun. Lost power about 15 minutes ago. Laptop battery was dead. Currently powering it using a 420W inverter connected to a 8 AH/20 HR sealed lead acid battery. Going to be interesting to see if it will last the next 1 1/2 hrs to predicted power restoration. Also using my smart phone as a WiFi hot spot. Sometimes it IS good to be prepared for these pesky 1st world problems.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:37:50am

re: #76 makeitstop

I’m watching the Weezer Tiny Desk concert, and I agree with Charles. They’re bumming me out here.

I could only watch them for 5 minutes. I’m a Weezer fan, but that Tiny Desk Concert was a major disappointment.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:41:25am

re: #89 Mike Lamb

So now he’s outright accusing people of treason as it pertains to the Russia investigation. Swell.

That means that HE IS THE ONE WHO COMMITTED TREASON because he always projects LIKE AN IMAX IN OUTER SPACE… SPACE… SPACE…

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:46:03am

ATTN BABY WHIPLASH: These people are not your friends.

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MsJ  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:47:16am

And the Brexit shitshow rolls on.

May refuses to say if she will resign if UK remains in EU beyond 30 June
Theresa May is speaking to reporters now.

Q: Are you embarrassed to be asking for another delay?

May says she knows many peope will be “frustrated” that this summit is taking place.

She says parliament has not approved a deal. But she is talking to the opposition to try to find a solution.

She says she has asked for an extension until 30 June. But the key point is that the UK must be able to leave when it has passed that deal.

Q: You said you would not stay as PM beyond 30 June if the UK were still in.

May says she hopes to get the deal through parliament, so that the UK can leave before 22 May (which would mean the UK would not have to go ahead with the European elections).

Q: But what will you do if the UK has to stay in?

May says she is working to ensure the UK can leave as soon as possible.

May refuses to say whether she will resign as PM if the UK stays in the EU beyond 30 June.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:47:52am

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

ATTN BABY WHIPLASH: These people are not your friends.

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Shapiro, like Candace Owens, Diamond and Silk and Michelle Malkin, are grifters ironically putting a multicultural sheen on white supremacist ideology.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:50:03am

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

ATTN BABY WHIPLASH: These people are not your friends.

[Embedded content]

Rick Wiles is The Devil.

Getting real sick of the Evangelicals.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:03:29am

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

ATTN BABY WHIPLASH: These people are not your friends.

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You notice how as the years go on the bitterness becomes more evident?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:08:59am

So, Trump is upset that George Washington was not a selfish asshole that wanted to slap his name on everything?

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:15:16am

re: #103 Eclectic Cyborg

So, Trump is upset that George Washington was not a selfish asshole that wanted to slap his name on everything?

Trump’s upset that when his name comes off buildings, no one will remember him.

That’s not entirely true.

Trump’s name will be a cautionary tale of what no one should do.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:18:25am

re: #104 lawhawk

Trump’s upset that when his name comes off buildings, no one will remember him.

That’s not entirely true.

Trump’s name will be a cautionary tale of what no one should do.

You would think, but honestly I think Trump is a what a lot of young conservatives aspire to be: A rich, sexist, powerful asshole surrounded by Yes men and accountable to almost no one.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:22:36am

re: #79 The Vicious Babushka

Thankfully it has zero chance of passing in the House. This should give our side more incentive to vote out Trump and flip the Senate in 2020.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:24:19am

They’re insane.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:25:01am

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

Thankfully it has zero chance of passing in the House. This should give our side more incentive to vote out Trump and flip the Senate in 2020.

Except that the GOP has gerrymandered the fuck out of things to make that extremely difficult.

On the other hand, can you imagine if Trump got re-elected but the Dems flipped the Senate AND kept the House? He’d lose his shit daily ten times worse than he does now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:25:23am

re: #107 DodgerFan1988

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They’re insane.

What the actual fucking fuck?

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Mike Lamb  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:26:57am

re: #92 lawhawk

And Mulvaney already said that not releasing the returns had nothing to do with being under audit.

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SteelPH  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:29:27am

re: #100 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Shapiro, like Candace Owens, Diamond and Silk and Michelle Malkin, are grifters ironically putting a multicultural sheen on white supremacist ideology.

Useful idiots, if you will.

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danarchy  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:31:36am

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

Except that the GOP has gerrymandered the fuck out of things to make that extremely difficult.

On the other hand, can you imagine if Trump got re-elected but the Dems flipped the Senate AND kept the House? He’d lose his shit daily ten times worse than he does now.

You can’t gerrymander the senate.

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Citizen K  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:31:39am

re: #107 DodgerFan1988

The scariest thing about this shit is that the way the courts are stacked now, they may get away with these kinds of laws sooner or later.

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wrenchwench  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:32:36am

re: #111 SteelPH

A useful idiot, if you will.

I got a new word for useful idiots who know what they are doing for whom, and are in it for the money: an ‘idiotistute’

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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:33:09am

re: #74 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The clock is ticking for Trump. Against the most unpopular Democratic nominee ever, he lost the popular vote by a big margin and won a razor thin margin by a fluke. He remains just as unpopular as he was then, and the Midwest states he squeaked to victory in were swept by Democrats in the Midterms. It will be very difficult for him to replicate his fluke win in 2016. We must work confident that we can win, but mindful that we can’t take victory for granted.

I want to OBJECT that Hillary Clinton was the most unpopular Democratic nominee ever. It took Russia—Comey—FBI—Wikileaks—Fox—and all media showing empty podiums and ignoring her policy statements. Your point can be made by not making this statement.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:33:49am

Hey, did y’all know that its time for Some More News? (Or did I miss it in previous thread?)

Mass Media’s Reporting On Mass Shootings - SOME MORE NEWS

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Citizen K  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:33:54am

re: #112 danarchy

You can’t gerrymander the senate.

What they can do is gerrymander the state, and then implement laws to make it harder for people to vote, which filters up into Senate races.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:34:40am

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

ATTN BABY WHIPLASH: These people are not your friends.

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Won’t stop Ben from kissing that Pulpit Pimp’s ass.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:35:08am

re: #115 retired cynic

I want to OBJECT that Hillary Clinton was the most unpopular Democratic nominee ever. It took Russia—Comey—FBI—Wikileaks—Fox—and all media showing empty podiums and ignoring her policy statements. Your point can be made by not making this statement.

And she garnered more votes in history than anyone who wasn’t named Barack Obama.

She got more votes in the popular election than Trump by more than 3 million.

So yeah, even the theme that she was unpopular was a mirage.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:36:02am

re: #117 Citizen K

What they can do is gerrymander the state, and then implement laws to make it harder for people to vote, which filters up into Senate races.

Gerrymandering is a specific term. It relates to manipulating district boundaries to get a political outcome.

You’re referring to voter suppression, where a party prevents certain groups from having access to the polls.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:37:01am

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

Except that the GOP has gerrymandered the fuck out of things to make that extremely difficult.

On the other hand, can you imagine if Trump got re-elected but the Dems flipped the Senate AND kept the House? He’d lose his shit daily ten times worse than he does now.

Reminder…The Democrats have the House. That is the only body where gerrymandering works. Senate and President are full state votes, not gerrymandered districts that protect house members.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:37:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:39:01am

re: #121 ObserverArt

Reminder…The Democrats have the House. That is the only body where gerrymandering works. Senate and President are full state votes, not gerrymandered districts that protect house members.

But currently in the Senate, the GOP holds more seats than is represented by its share in the overall vote.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:39:23am

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

My understanding is that gerrymandering doesn’t impact the Senate since those are state-wide votes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:41:28am
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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:41:38am

re: #115 retired cynic

I want to OBJECT that Hillary Clinton was the most unpopular Democratic nominee ever. It took Russia—Comey—FBI—Wikileaks—Fox—and all media showing empty podiums and ignoring her policy statements. Your point can be made by not making this statement.

That seems to be the accepted story now. It was all her baggage before the election, so it remains that a defeat was because of all of that baggage.

It sucks as far as thinking but the media and many political pundits run with it. So it is now accepted as fact.

I think it is also a way for many to excuse their own roles in helping get Trump elected.

Got a problem with Trump? Blame Hillary. It wasn’t “my” fault (that I voted for him, that I voted for a third party, that I told everyone Hillary was bad, that I covered Trump because it brought my website, TV show hits, etc.).

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:42:08am

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

Except that the GOP has gerrymandered the fuck out of things to make that extremely difficult.

On the other hand, can you imagine if Trump got re-elected but the Dems flipped the Senate AND kept the House? He’d lose his shit daily ten times worse than he does now.

You can’t gerrymander a senate election. There are other tools.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:44:23am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

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Heh, I made a crack comment earlier that Trump opening his yapper is the true black hole.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:45:25am

re: #124 Patricia Kayden

My understanding is that gerrymandering doesn’t impact the Senate since those are state-wide votes.

yes, but the less densely populated states have been leaning GOP for the past decades.

Democrats won popular vote in the Senate, too

The White House may not be the only institution in Washington that Democrats lost on Tuesday despite getting more votes than Republicans.

It turns out that Democrats also got more votes for the U.S. Senate than Republicans, and yet Republicans maintained their majority on Capitol Hill.

In results that are still preliminary, 45.2 million Americans cast a vote for a Democratic Senate candidate, while 39.3 million Americans voted for a Republican. (In the White House race, as of Thursday afternoon, Clinton had 60.1 million votes and Trump had 59.8 million.)

The problem for Democrats is that, much like the Electoral College, the number of votes matters less than where those votes are cast.

In California, for example, there were two Democrats — Kamala Harris and Loretta Sanchez — competing for an open Senate seat, with no Republican on the ballot. Together, they received 7.8 million votes. If you count only Harris’ winning vote total of 4.9 million, Democrats still tally 42.2 million votes. Had a Republican Senate candidate in California captured as many votes as Sanchez did — about 2.9 million — the total for the two parties nationwide would have been about even.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:45:37am

This is the Islamophobic asshole who spewed his crap yesterday at the hearing:

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:46:28am

Eclectic Cyborg,

We are not pouncing on you!
: )

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:47:30am

re: #130 The Vicious Babushka

This is the Islamophobic asshole who spewed his crap yesterday at the hearing:

Zionism =/= Judaism

Islamism =/= Islam

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mmmirele  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:47:49am

re: #107 DodgerFan1988

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They’re insane.

Here’s a related story.

washingtonpost.com

As some of you may remember, I went out and protested last Sunday at a church where the “pastor” is on record as wanting to execute women. But he also dodges by saying he’s not the political authority. I’ve asked on their Facebook if he’s in favor of this legislation. It’s fair game as one of his church’s very proud followers from Texas proclaimed that she had been at the hearing. I didn’t mince words. I told her she was bloodthirsty.

Next Sunday, with a pink metal coathanger and my GoPro…

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:50:15am

Imagine that! Using law enforcement to, uh, enforce the law!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:52:34am

re: #121 ObserverArt

Reminder…The Democrats have the House. That is the only body where gerrymandering works. Senate and President are full state votes, not gerrymandered districts that protect house members.

Yes and no. The State boundaries are arbitrary and thus the Senate and Electoral College are effectively gerrymandered by design. The only real difference is that it happened a long time ago and is maintained mostly through white people’s greater economic freedom, willingness and ability to live in areas with fewer services. Also, combined with a toxic subculture of wound collecting and wallowing in racial grievance that blames the economic decline of those same areas on the “other.”

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Skip Intro  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:52:36am

Hey, did the Demolcrats have any witnesses at the white nationalist hearing yesterday, because if they did they got no media coverage that I saw. Even when they’re the minority the GOP still controls the flow of what the media decides is news.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:54:24am

re: #134 The Vicious Babushka

Imagine that! Using law enforcement to, uh, enforce the law!

Um, the GOP voted and passed the law. They were in charge of both chambers and the presidency.

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wrenchwench  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:55:02am

re: #134 The Vicious Babushka

Imagine that! Using law enforcement to, uh, enforce the law!

[The Democrats weaponized … law enforcement]

Suddenly that’s a bad thing? We should take their guns?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:55:03am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

Yes and no. The State boundaries are arbitrary and thus the Senate and Electoral College are effectively gerrymandered by design. The only real difference is that it happened a long time ago and is maintained mostly through white people’s greater economic freedom, willingness and ability to live in areas with fewer services, combined with a toxic subculture of wound collecting and wallowing in racial grievance that blames the economic decline of those same areas on the “other.”

Part of the “Great Compromise” was to ensure that there were equal numbers of Senators from slave states and free states, and to admit a new free state only if they admitted a slave state at the same time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:55:45am

re: #121 ObserverArt

Reminder…The Democrats have the House. That is the only body where gerrymandering works. Senate and President are full state votes, not gerrymandered districts that protect house members.

Yes, I forgot. Call it a Canadian moment. :P

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mmmirele  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:56:43am

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: the Texas representative who is proposing to kill women who have abortions has been married 5 (five) times. Rep. Tony Tinderholt is a guy who should have KEEP AWAY tattooed right above his junk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:57:15am

re: #140 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, I forgot. Call it a Canadian moment. :P

Germany avoids that by allowing two sets of votes; half the Parliament is elected directly by district, the other half by party; based on their share of the vote they receive, the parties are allowed to name candidates from a list.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:57:45am

re: #141 mmmirele

You think he might feel different if his daughter ever needed an abortion to survive?

/

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wrenchwench  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:58:28am

re: #141 mmmirele

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: the Texas representative who is proposing to kill women who have abortions has been married 5 (five) times. Rep. Tony Tinderholt is a guy who should have KEEP AWAY tattooed right above and on his junk.

I apologize for the addition I have made.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:58:30am

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

You think he might feel different if his daughter ever needed an abortion to survive?

/

she would get one, quietly and legally…abroad if necessary

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:07:51am
Canadian border agents discovered that a family had driven from Florida to Quebec with their deceased family member’s body in the backseat of their car.

The family cited the high cost of U.S. health care, plus the cost of shipping the body back to Canada, as the reason they didn’t stop at a hospital, CTV News reported.

Fernand Drapeau, 87, was with his son and wife on his way back home to Quebec from Florida when he suffered a heart attack and died, CTV News said.

His family decided to keep driving home to Canada.

The body was discovered by border agents at the crossing between New York and Quebec early the morning of March 31, Global News Canada said.

They border agents called an ambulance, but paramedics pronounced Drapeau dead at the scene.

Authorities said they believe the man had been dead at least two days by the time the family reached the Canadian border, CTV News said. The incident is under investigation, but no charges have yet been filed.

abc12.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:08:32am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

she would get one, quietly and legally…abroad if necessary

Ah yes, the old “backpacking trip”.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:11:03am
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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:11:24am

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

Ah yes, the old “backpacking trip”.

The tour of Japan. I’m not going to look it up from work, but there was a company here that set up a flight every week for the adult women of wealthy parents to fly to Japan for this reason. He said the plane was full every time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:11:33am

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

Ah yes, the old “backpacking trip”.

going off to “visit a sick aunt”

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:12:15am

I got an email response from Rob Portman from my email contact form message to him calling for him to allow the full release of the Mueller report.

It sucks. I might do a page if I can get over my nausea reading his boilerplate bullshit.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:14:11am

re: #119 lawhawk

And she garnered more votes in history than anyone who wasn’t named Barack Obama.

She got more votes in the popular election than Trump by more than 3 million.

So yeah, even the theme that she was unpopular was a mirage.

Hillary was unpopular with the only demographic that the media cares about- about 35% of the total US population…

..that is to say, white men. This demographic is over 75% approval for The Trump Crime Family.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:16:44am

re: #152 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Hillary was unpopular with the only demographic that the media cares about- about 35% of the total US population…

..that is to say, white men. This demographic is over 75% approval for The Trump Crime Family.

Right now, that’s dropped to about 55%, in part because he’s underwater with white men under 30.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:17:14am
Attorney General William Barr said on Wednesday U.S. intelligence agencies engaged in spying directed at the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump and that he would look at whether the surveillance was undertaken legally.

“I think spying did occur,” Barr told a Senate hearing. “But the question is whether it was adequately predicated and I am not suggesting that it wasn’t adequately predicated. … I am not suggesting those rules were violated, but I think it is important to look at that. And I am not talking about the FBI necessarily, but intelligence agencies more broadly.

“I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal - it’s a big deal.”

news.trust.org

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terraincognita  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:17:36am

re: #146 Shropshire Slasher

Kind of reminds me of National Lampoon’s Vacation movie and the character played by Imogene Coca.

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mmmirele  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:18:18am

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

You think he might feel different if his daughter ever needed an abortion to survive?

/

These people get abortions, but their abortions are righteous.

Also, these asshats think there is NEVER, EVER a situation where an abortion is called for. Seriously. I get pretty pissed off about that and tell them that pregnancy is not a time of puppies and kittens. My mother almost died from preeclampsia giving birth to me in 1960 and preeclampsia is still a thing in 2019.

I’m telling you, these people are murderous.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:20:03am
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:26:54am

re: #155 terraincognita

Kind of reminds me of National Lampoon’s Vacation movie and the character played by Imogene Coca.

Also Alan Arkin’s character in Little Miss Sunshine

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mmmirele  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:27:03am

re: #144 wrenchwench

I apologize for the addition I have made.

No apology necessary.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:29:20am

re: #153 Belafon

Right now, that’s dropped to about 55%, in part because he’s underwater with white men under 30.

civiqs.com

Ok, my 75% Trump election results have indeed come down to 61% which is an improvement for sanity’s sake… but still provides a more than solid base of pressure for a media and political apparatus to gear any “both sides” dialog towards favoring this 35% demo that wields 90% of the power in this country.

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Jay C  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:30:59am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

Yes and no. The State boundaries are arbitrary and thus the Senate and Electoral College are effectively gerrymandered by design. The only real difference is that it happened a long time ago and is maintained mostly through white people’s greater economic freedom, willingness and ability to live in areas with fewer services. Also, combined with a toxic subculture of wound collecting and wallowing in racial grievance that blames the economic decline of those same areas on the “other.”

This.
Except that the “subculture” that keeps so many “red” states so “red” isn’t really a “sub” culture, but the cultural mainstream in those places.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:33:10am

re: #161 Jay C

This.
Except that the “subculture” that keeps so many “red” states so “red” isn’t really a “sub” culture, but the cultural mainstream in those places.

There was a time when many rural states voted in large numbers for Democrats, but that was decades and decades ago…

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Teukka  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:35:13am

Playing with the laminating machine … What do you think, will one miss what to do with the stack of paper in the clip where this one is located at the top? :D

Overkill, I know…
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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:35:55am

Youtube Video

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mmmirele  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:37:53am

OMG Massachusetts is forcing people to be civil and recognize the rights of others!

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Bubblehead II  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:40:36am

Looking forward to the launch today.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:41:54am

re: #155 terraincognita

Kind of reminds me of National Lampoon’s Vacation movie and the character played by Imogene Coca.

Also “Little Miss Sunshine” & Grandpa

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:43:25am

re: #166 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Looking forward to the launch today.

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Is it still set to go off around 6:30 PM today? I gots to remember to watch it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:43:34am

re: #166 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

I kind of like this notification

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Bubblehead II  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:46:12am

re: #168 ObserverArt

Is it still set to go off around 6:30 PM today? I gots to remember to watch it.

As far as I know it’s still a go. I will send out a reminder as we get closer to the launch.

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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:51:23am
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Sir John Barron  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:52:49am

re: #141 mmmirele

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: the Texas representative who is proposing to kill women who have abortions has been married 5 (five) times. Rep. Tony Tinderholt is a guy who should have KEEP AWAY tattooed right above his junk.

Sssshhhhh. Or DJT will put him on the VP ticket to replace Pencer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:55:18am
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Mike Lamb  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:55:53am

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Because referring to it as “spying” isn’t a loaded term at all, and really inspires confidence that Barr is approaching it from a neutral perspective.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:56:10am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah but SPYING! UNMASKING!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:01:59am

re: #175 Sir John Barron

Yeah but SPYING! UNMASKING!

it is too terribly easy to twist and spin the narrative to make it look like Trump’s organization was the victim of a nefarious plot, especially to those whose whole belief system rests on such an assertion

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:03:08am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was a time when many rural states voted in large numbers for Democrats, but that was decades and decades ago…

i wonder if anyone considered employing some kind of ‘strategy’ to change that

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:03:51am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it is too terribly easy to twist and spin the narrative to make it look like Trump’s organization was the victim of a nefarious plot, especially to those whose whole belief system rests on such an assertion

I would love for someone to ask Barr who he thinks he and the intelligence agencies serve, and then point out that the oath is to the Constitution.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:06:59am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The president went out and tweeted the next day that he was exonerated. That wasn’t based on anything in the Mueller report, that was based on your assessment. That was on March 24th.

And now you won’t elaborate at all as to how you reached that conclusion?”

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:07:27am
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Sir John Barron  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:09:20am

re: #154 Shropshire Slasher

news.trust.org

Calling on a hostile foreign government to hack your political opponents website and email and meeting with that same government to gather dirt on your American opponent are all really big deals, too, but here we are.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:12:26am

“So, what you’re telling me, Attorney General, is that no presidential candidate should ever be investigated? Neither Democrat nor Republican?”

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:17:51am

re: #181 Sir John Barron

I look forward to next week when they release the redacted and color coded report.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:17:58am

re: #182 Belafon

“So, what you’re telling me, Attorney General, is that no presidential candidate should ever be investigated? Neither Democrat nor Republican?”

Especially ones celebrating and making use of material from a hacking crime.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:20:09am

re: #183 Shropshire Slasher

I look forward to next week when they release the redacted and color coded report.

Assume that the RNC has already seen it and will selectively spin all the bits that can be made to seem favorable and refute or ignore all the rest.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:20:19am

I love that Barr is getting his ass handed to him but I fear it won’t matter because the general perception is still that Trump was exonerated. Changing that will be a hard fight, though this was a good start.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:21:08am

re: #172 Sir John Barron

Sssshhhhh. Or DJT will put him on the VP ticket to replace Pencer.

They make ‘em fine in Arlington.

Outpost of Dallas. White flight. 6th most conservative in the U.S. Home of the Dallas Cowboys.

That alone should be enough to kick it out of the country.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:21:53am

re: #180 lawhawk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:23:16am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

I love that Barr is getting his ass handed to him but I fear it won’t matter because the general perception is still that Trump was exonerated. Changing that will be a hard fight, though this was a good start.

I can only assume Mueller was anticipating this initial response and has his report structured that it cannot be successfully spun to anyone but the most diehard MAGA brains

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:29:32am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

I love that Barr is getting his ass handed to him but I fear it won’t matter because the general perception is still that Trump was exonerated. Changing that will be a hard fight, though this was a good start.

The general perception is that the administration has not released the report. Barr’s summary did nothing to the general publics belief that Trump might have done something wrong.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:31:04am

This guy is with the NRSC - the National Republican Senatorial Committee. All of his picks are guys…. and a woman somehow sneaks in under the honorable mentions.

I can think of 20 women off the top of my head as memorable in last 20 years.

Starbuck and President Roslin - BSG
Meredith Grey and Dr. Yang - Grey’s Anatomy
Tatiana Maslany on Orphan Black (all the characters could take up the slots).
Arya and Cersei from GoT
Liz Lemon on 30 Rock
Leslie Knope on Parks and Rec
Abby Sciuto and Ziva David on NCIS
Janeway on Voyager
All the lead women on Once Upon a Time.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:31:14am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

I love that Barr is getting his ass handed to him but I fear it won’t matter because the general perception is still that Trump was exonerated. Changing that will be a hard fight, though this was a good start.

The general perception of Trump’s base and his Republican Congress protectors, yes.

But for the rest of this country that has brains, I think they see the dog and pony show for what it is.

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allegro  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:31:44am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

I love that Barr is getting his ass handed to him but I fear it won’t matter because the general perception is still that Trump was exonerated. Changing that will be a hard fight, though this was a good start.

I disagree about that general perception. If that were true 84% of Americans wouldn’t be demanding to see the report. I believe the general perception is that Trump is guilty as fuck and that Barr et al are covering up.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:41:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:46:29am

re: #194 lawhawk

Net Neutrality Victory! By 232-190 vote, Congress passes H.R. 1644, The Save the Internet Act, which directs FCC to restore Net Neutrality protections Trump’s FCC Chairman Ajit Pai stripped away through a fraudulent, corrupt process in 2017.

Sounds like Socilism to me. Just like everything else, the Internet should be owned and controlled by the highest bidder…

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Old Liberal  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:01:46am

re: #120 lawhawk

Gerrymandering is a specific term. It relates to manipulating district boundaries to get a political outcome.

You’re referring to voter suppression, where a party prevents certain groups from having access to the polls.

Everybody is correct. In Wisconsin they gerrymandered legislative districts to achieve a political majority to implement voter suppression. Like love and marriage they go together as the song said. They could not have implemented the suppression politically without gerrymandering

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:08:00am

re: #165 mmmirele

OMG Massachusetts is forcing people to be civil and recognize the rights of others!

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Oh, the sadness of not being able to be mean, nasty and just plain awful to other people and simply get away with it like they used to.

Cry me a river assholes.

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Jay C  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:15:03am

re: #192 ObserverArt

The general perception of Trump’s base and his Republican Congress protectors, yes.

But for the rest of this country that has brains, I think they see the dog and pony show for what it is.

But, as Adlai Stevenson remarked, we need a majority…..

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:17:05am

re: #198 Jay C

But, as Adlai Stevenson remarked, we need a majority…..

84% asking for the release seems like a majority.

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Old Liberal  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:17:22am

re: #177 Man, DangerMan

i wonder if anyone considered employing some kind of ‘strategy’ to change that

It’s difficult to be for and against gays, for and against legal abortion, for and against gun control, for and against racism. If the people weren’t bigots and really only cared about economics they would still be voting for Democrats. IMHO the only strategy is to get them to give up their right wing beliefs. Gonna take a depression to make that change. Starving and homeless make the other issues less important to their self identity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:23:28am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:24:27am

My position on abortion is somewhat mixed.

I believe people should make smart choices about when and when NOT to have children.

I believe in improving sex education in schools and increasing availability of contraceptives.

I believe terminating a pregnancy is a very personal and very difficult choice that no one should be attacked or insulted or maligned over.

I appreciate women who choose adoption over termination where circumstances allow.

I think hardcore pro-lifers should work harder at looking after babies and children who are born rather than being obsessively focused on fetuses.

I believe that God values all life and gives us the freedom to make decisions about our lives.

But ultimately, I believe that at the end of the day a woman has the choice over what happens with her body.

Nobody would bat an eye if I put a bullet in the head of a guy coming at me with a gun in order to save my own life. That’s exactly what happens when a pregnancy needs to be terminated because the mother is at risk. Do people really think that women can just make this choice easily? That they are happy to sacrifice their child so they can live? If so, that’s a really fucked up mentality.

It’s no secret that outlawing abortion won’t make it go away, it will simply force it into unlicensed clinics, back offices and hotel rooms with coat hangers at further risk to women.

I’d like to see abortions performed as little as necessary but I recognize that sometimes they are unavoidable.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:24:51am

re: #199 Belafon

84% asking for the release seems like a majority.

Only if it was 84% of Congress.

#sadbuttrue

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:26:05am

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

“It appears it is beginning to snow in Boulder. We send it live to WeatherCatBob.”
“… I want to leave.”

I looked out my window and had a panic to see white flakes drifting down, it was the blossoms blowing off the neighbor’s cherry trees…

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Jay C  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:32:53am

re: #203 Eclectic Cyborg

Only if it was 84% of Congress.

#sadbuttrue

Actually, didn’t 100% of the House (well, a unanimous vote anyway) vote to release the Mueller Report to the public?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:33:19am

Oh look who is using voter suppression techniques just like the GOP!

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EPR-radar  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:34:17am

re: #105 Eclectic Cyborg

You would think, but honestly I think Trump is a what a lot of young conservatives aspire to be: A rich, sexist, powerful asshole surrounded by Yes men and accountable to almost no one.

Trump is wingnut God. Literally. Trump is the God of right wing US evangelical political Christianity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:34:18am
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:35:17am

re: #207 EPR-radar

Trump is wingnut God. Literally. Trump is the God of right wing US evangelical political Christianity.

Speaking of courting the evangelicals…looky here…

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:35:53am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look who is using voter suppression techniques just like the GOP!

Netanyahu was a southern governor in a previous life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:36:34am

JFC, my congresscritter is an utter asshat

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Old Liberal  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:39:01am

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

My position on abortion is somewhat mixed.

I believe people should make smart choices about when and when NOT to have children.

I believe in improving sex education in schools and increasing availability of contraceptives.

I believe terminating a pregnancy is a very personal and very difficult choice that no one should be attacked or insulted or maligned over.

I appreciate women who choose adoption over termination where circumstances allow.

I think hardcore pro-lifers should work harder at looking after babies and children who are born rather than being obsessively focused on fetuses.

I believe that God values all life and gives us the freedom to make decisions about our lives.

But ultimately, I believe that at the end of the day a woman has the choice over what happens with her body.

Nobody would bat an eye if I put a bullet in the head of a guy coming at me with a gun in order to save my own life. That’s exactly what happens when a pregnancy needs to be terminated because the mother is at risk. Do people really think that women can just make this choice easily? That they are happy to sacrifice their child so they can live? If so, that’s a really fucked up mentality.

It’s no secret that outlawing abortion won’t make it go away, it will simply force it into unlicensed clinics, back offices and hotel rooms with coat hangers at further risk to women.

I’d like to see abortions performed as little as necessary but I recognize that sometimes they are unavoidable.

Can you present your evidence that god values all human life? Use examples from our natural world if you can. Quoting some book isn’t really evidence unless it’s assertions can be seen in the real world.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:41:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:42:30am

re: #212 Old Liberal

Can you present your evidence that god values all human life? Use examples from our natural world if you can. Quoting some book isn’t really evidence unless it’s assertions can be seen in the real world.

We as society should value all human life. And we should also value and respect the rights of women to make decisions about their bodies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:42:58am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, my congresscritter is an utter asshat

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:47:42am
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Old Liberal  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:47:50am

re: #214 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We as society should value all human life. And we should also value and respect the rights of women to make decisions about their bodies.

Fine but that is absolutely not the same as asserting a god values human life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:49:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:49:25am

re: #217 Old Liberal

Fine but that is absolutely not the same as asserting a god values human life.

I would like to believe that there is some sort of god that values human life, but my own experience makes it difficult at the best of times…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:54:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:55:32am
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uriel  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:56:26am

re: #152 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Hillary was unpopular with the only demographic that the media cares about- about 35% of the total US population…

..that is to say, white men. This demographic is over 75% approval for The Trump Crime Family.

To be fair, the problem is old white men. Factor out the boomers (and maybe the front end of gen x, ) and Trump isn’t president.

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Old Liberal  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:57:48am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would like to believe that there is some sort of god that values human life, but my own experience makes it difficult at the best of times…

I see no evidence. That is why I asked. Every day I walk through my South American city and I see crippled, blind, missing limbs, dying and I think “I wish I could just heal these folks. I wish I could empty every hospital in the country with my healing powers. But I can’t “. But reportedly there is a greater power that COULD but doesn’t. So if I value this human life and would heal it if I could, where’s the greater being?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:58:36am
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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:00:42pm

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

more:

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Doesn’t appear to be audio with those videos. Anyone else having that issue?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:03:29pm

re: #212 Old Liberal

Can you present your evidence that god values all human life? Use examples from our natural world if you can. Quoting some book isn’t really evidence unless it’s assertions can be seen in the real world.

This is tough to respond to. There are many groups and individuals who are constantly doing very selfless and generous things which are often attributed to direction from God. I also freely admit that there are religious based groups doing terrible and harmful things that are also attributed to direction from God. This is the flawed nature of humanity rearing its ugly head.

Jesus was never discriminatory. His greatest commandment in the Bible is to love each other without condition, qualification or restraint. If all who professed to follow Jesus actually did this, the world would look like a very different place.

And I realize those words were written by man and translated by man but I do find them powerful nevertheless.

Just because people aren’t being healed doesn’t mean someone isn’t praying for them to be and even if someone is praying for them to be healed, God may choose to say “No” because it’s not how He wants things to be. I don’t claim to understand God as I believe no man truly can.

Personally speaking, I have prayed to God many times and either He has answered some of them or I’ve experienced one odds defying chain of coincidences. Spirituality is different for everyone and I understand that some of what you see may lead you to conclude that there is no God.

This is about the best answer I’m able to give you though I know it is lacking.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:08:49pm

“one odds defying chain of coincidences”

That’s rather how I look at my entire 71 years and 8 months of life and, frankly, seems pretty normal to me - although I get very happy when I think about all the interesting things I’ve done and seen. That doesn’t seem to be true for everyone.

Rather insincerely, of course, I have “prayed to God” every time I have been in a public building since my oldest went to kindergarten in 1988. Never got any answers, but no one ever tried to stop me from praying, so there’s that. 🤔

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Old Liberal  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:10:04pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

This is tough to respond to. There are many groups and individuals who are constantly doing very selfless and generous things which are often attributed to direction from God. I also freely admit that there are religious based groups doing terrible and harmful things that are also attributed to direction from God. This is the flawed nature of humanity rearing its ugly head.

Jesus was never discriminatory. His greatest commandment in the Bible is to love each other without condition, qualification or restraint. If all who professed to follow Jesus actually did this, the world would look like a very different place.

And I realize those words were written by man and translated by man but I do find them powerful nevertheless.

Just because people aren’t being healed doesn’t mean someone isn’t praying for them to be and even if someone is praying for them to be healed, God may choose to say “No” because it’s not how He wants things to be. I don’t claim to understand God as I believe no man truly can.

Personally speaking, I have prayed to God many times and either He has answered some of them or I’ve experienced one odds defying chain of coincidences. Spirituality is different for everyone and I understand that some of what you see may lead you to conclude that there is no God.

This is about the best answer I’m able to give you though I know it is lacking.

Thank you for answering. My concern is both sides want to claim the mind of some god. That is the problem. Everyone admits they can’t explain the divergence between lived experience and what this god is supposedly like, but by god they know god values life even when there is no evidence.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:16:36pm

re: #228 Old Liberal

Thank you for answering. My concern is both sides want to claim the mind of some god. That is the problem. Everyone admits they can’t explain the divergence between lived experience and what this god is supposedly like, but by god they know god values life even when there is no evidence.

I think there is clear evidence that if there is a God, it does not value the lives anti-abortion protestors say they value.

We know, scientifically, that more human “babies” die in pregnancies than are born from pregnancies.

No God who values that kind of human life would allow that to happen as part of a poorly-designed reproductive process nor intentionally cause the deaths to happen.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:17:57pm

Stop it. What is this civil discussion about god; don’t you all realize this is the interwebtubesnet?

Wait, what? Crawls back into corner.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:20:19pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:21:04pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:21:46pm

re: #231 The Vicious Babushka

Trump will be known for the motto: “I cannot tell a truth!”

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:25:48pm

re: #229 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I think there is clear evidence that if there is a God, it does not value the lives anti-abortion protestors say they value.

We know, scientifically, that more human “babies” die in pregnancies than are born from pregnancies.

No God who values that kind of human life would allow that to happen as part of a poorly-designed reproductive process nor intentionally cause the deaths to happen.

I was taught as a Catholic that God made everything.

That means God created wars, natural disasters, diseases, murderers, etc.

Where does any of that fit into a God that values life?

As simple as that thought is, it has real tough answers that I think escape a lot of religious teachings.

Maybe it has to go to the forefathers that were deists. God created the universe and everything in it, then stepped back.

It then comes down to asking if humans value human life? The creator valued it as much as life was created.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:27:32pm

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump will be known for the motto: “I cannot tell a truth!”

And then a cherry tree pops up out of the ground and proceeds to grow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:27:49pm

re: #230 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Stop it. What is this civil discussion about god; don’t you all realize this is the interwebtubesnet?

Wait, what? Crawls back into corner.

This is about the only website left on which such a discussion is possible.

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wrenchwench  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:30:44pm

re: #234 ObserverArt

I was taught as a Catholic that God made everything.

That means God created wars, natural disasters, diseases, murderers, etc.

Where does any of that fit into a God that values life?

As simple as that thought is, it has real tough answers that I think escape a lot of religious teachings.

Maybe it has to go to the forefathers that were deists. God created the universe and everything in it, then stepped back.

It then comes down to asking if humans value human life? The creator valued it as much as life was created.

Roger Waters - What God Wants, Pt. I (2015) (Digital Video)

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Old Liberal  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:30:49pm

Off to walk past more suffering and not fixing it. Maybe I’m the greater being

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Bubblehead II  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:33:38pm

Tonights launch is starting to look a bit iffy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:40:16pm

re: #225 ObserverArt

Doesn’t appear to be audio with those videos. Anyone else having that issue?

audio is fine for me

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wrenchwench  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:42:17pm

Sometimes I read the obits just because I enjoy names, even (or maybe especially) when I don’t know whose name it is. These are a first and middle name:

Samanta Rae

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:49:03pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

audio is fine for me

That is just plain strange. I can’t get any audio, but other videos are working fine. Oh well, hearing that jackass would probably just piss me off anyway.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:50:58pm

From the NY Mag piece on Fox:

“… Fox News was a key factor in a divorce. One reader told me about his father, a one-time Trump skeptic turned believer. “He and my mom separated last November. There were other reasons but one of the big ones was his Fox addiction,” he wrote. “I went down to help him get set up in a new apartment. He cried a lot.“

Trump is the symptom.

Fox is the disease.

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wrenchwench  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:53:38pm

re: #243 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

From the NY Mag piece on Fox:

Trump is the symptom.

Fox is the disease.

There is help available. All too often, those who could use some help are blinded to the need.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:54:00pm

Trump’s white nationalist crap and anti immigration spiel plays best farthest from the actual border. People who live along the border see a different world entirely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:55:45pm

oh boy, he is askeert

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:56:59pm

re: #241 wrenchwench

Sometimes I read the obits just because I enjoy names, even (or maybe especially) when I don’t know whose name it is. These are a first and middle name:

I enjoy walking through cemeteries for the same reason. That and looking at the inscriptions on graves and thinking about peoples stories.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:57:21pm

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:57:44pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

audio is fine for me

I found the video at CNN. Massie is a smug asshole and obviously a huge Trump butt kisser.

Oh Kentucky!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 12:58:22pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:00:04pm

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

I enjoy walking through cemeteries for the same reason. That and looking at the inscriptions on graves and thinking about peoples stories.

There are often stories in the obits, but, as with the stones, you have to imagine the parts the family left out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:00:25pm
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plansbandc  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:02:19pm

I hate it when he uses third person. I really fucking hate it.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:04:38pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

Says the guy that would say anything, any damn lie to undermine Obama. Never admitted the birther stuff was garbage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:06:04pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:06:40pm

re: #253 plansbandc

I hate it when he uses third person. I really fucking hate it.

Yep. It’s only cool when The Rock does it.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:08:03pm

re: #256 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep. It’s only cool when The Rock does it.

That’s because Dwayne Johnson is talking about him.

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BeachDem  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:14:12pm

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ll always like a comment that quotes Bakari—just wish he would either run for a House seat or go up against Lindsey.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:14:51pm

It would seem that I don’t have any skin in this game, so to speak, but I actually do. Happy babies are in everybody’s interest, except possibly scammers who exploit neurotics. Both of my daughters and all four of my grandchildren were breast-fed. That isn’t the sole reason they turned out so well, but it’s definitely part of it.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:15:52pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

The general public voted for Hillary Clinton.

The Hill
✔
@thehill
Treasury Sec. Steven Mnuchin: “The general public when they elected President Trump made the decision to elect him without his tax returns being released.”

the 1924 law does not mention any limitations or exceptions, it just says that the IRS “shall furnish” tax returns on request.

so either show this ‘criteria’ of yours in the 1924 statute or the constitution
otherwise wtf are you yammering about?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:15:58pm

So how’s your day going?

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:19:09pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is the most bizarre argument they’ve made. The statute is very clear, certain congressional committees can request any tax payer’s returns. They can’t make them public without the taxpayer’s consent, so the question is: why is Trump so intent to hide his returns even from a closed door review by Congress?

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:21:14pm

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh boy, he is askeert

So, it has now been determined, by 18 people that truly hate President Trump, that there was No Collusion with Russia. In fact, it was an illegal investigation that should never have been allowed to start. I fought back hard against this Phony & Treasonous Hoax!

the ONLY thing that every news outlet should be playing until this is resolved is the 3/21/19 clip if trump saying “Frankly i told the house if you want, let them see it. I Don’t Mind’

link to the cnn video

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:21:40pm

re: #259 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m totally for allowing it in public, but none of my kids we’re, and they all turned out to be kids.

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freetoken  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:22:55pm

I told you yesterday that the public would be disappointed:

We Need to Admit That the Black Hole Photo Isn’t Very Good

[…] This may or may not account for why the black hole looks different from how scientists and Hollywood have previously imagined it: It appears as a blurry circle of fire, not unlike, as Twitter users have pointed out, a bright orange doughnut. Also a hoop earring, the letter O made of neon, a SpaghettiO, the bagel emoji, etc. I mean, it’s a circle—it could be anything!

[…]

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:24:45pm

re: #259 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Among our many, many, many cultural quirks is that puritain/fundamentalist/whateveryouwanttocallit streak that just won’t die. And so we live in a country where social media is so much faster to take down pictures that include a woman’s nipples than they are to take down neo-nazi propaganda.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:25:06pm

re: #262 KGxvi

This is the most bizarre argument they’ve made. The statute is very clear, certain congressional committees can request any tax payer’s returns. They can’t make them public without the taxpayer’s consent, so the question is: why is Trump so intent to hide his returns even from a closed door review by Congress?

It would remove all doubt as to his business being a house of cards?
That he’s not worth nearly as much as he claims?
That all the eyeballs on his businesses would reveal self-dealing, and potential financial crimes?
That he paid no taxes due to NOLs for a lengthy period of time.
That he owes lots of money to foreign entities.

All of the above.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:26:49pm

re: #267 lawhawk

It would remove all doubt as to his business being a house of cards?
That he’s not worth nearly as much as he claims?
That all the eyeballs on his businesses would reveal self-dealing, and potential financial crimes?
That he paid no taxes due to NOLs for a lengthy period of time.
That he owes lots of money to foreign entities.

All of the above.

Sure, but under the statute, Congress can’t actually release any of that info without Trump’s consent - at least how I read the statute. So it’s got to be crimes that he’s worried about, and the fact that he’d include evidence of crimes in his tax returns is just a level of stupid that is so on brand, I can totally see it.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:31:33pm

re: #265 freetoken

I told you yesterday that the public would be disappointed:

We Need to Admit That the Black Hole Photo Isn’t Very Good

Idiots. Give it 20 years, maybe. Look at the difference in photos of Pluto from the 90’s to the 10’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:31:33pm
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freetoken  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:32:19pm

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

… and where they were born.

And where their parents were born…

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freetoken  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:33:45pm

re: #269 Mike Lamb

The image looks exactly as scientists expected.

The problem is, the masses expectations are built on artist impressions and movies, and not reality.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:33:55pm

re: #265 freetoken

Rockwall is named for an underground rock formation that is a few miles long, consisting of hardended sandstone that has broken and looks like it was stacked. People continue to be disappointed that it wasn’t man-made.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:34:07pm

re: #265 freetoken

That’s the hot take…

The scientists know better. We just figured out how to do a telescope that essentially is the diameter of the earth.

Now we can get greater precision with more instruments coming online and with better resolution with different wavelengths.

We can reproduce this. That’s how science is done.

And a lot of people are spoiled by scifi that created images that appear more realistic than what actual scientific research has uncovered.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:34:27pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:34:37pm

re: #262 KGxvi

This is the most bizarre argument they’ve made. The statute is very clear, certain congressional committees can request any tax payer’s returns. They can’t make them public without the taxpayer’s consent, so the question is: why is Trump so intent to hide his returns even from a closed door review by Congress?

congress has two jobs - legislation and oversight. Neal was smart and covered both in his request
1 - he wants to review the legislation - clearly the first job, and
2 - that there are questions about the president’s financial tentacles and whether they affect the admin’s decision making. if that aint oversight…..

this is a stall and delay tactic because i think they know they’re gonna lose.

trump’s lawyers not the admin’s, are gonna argue unconstitutional!!! and congress is overstepping.

anything to hold this up till after the election because if it makes it to the supreme, i dont see Roberts as having any of this nonsense.

the other usual suspects will likely invent pretzel logic in their minority opinions that , sure enough trump and the admin will seize on.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:34:39pm

re: #272 freetoken

The image looks exactly as scientists expected.

The problem is, the masses expectations are built on artist impressions and movies, and not reality.

“Zoom and enhance.”

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:36:05pm
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freetoken  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:36:22pm

re: #274 lawhawk

In essence, one can not take a photo of a black hole.

The image released, and all any image can do, is show the “Einstein ring” - the light (originating from in-falling matter radiating away photons) whose path have been bent towards us (that is, our camera, in this case radio dishes.)

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:36:46pm

re: #268 KGxvi

Sure, but under the statute, Congress can’t actually release any of that info without Trump’s consent - at least how I read the statute. So it’s got to be crimes that he’s worried about, and the fact that he’d include evidence of crimes in his tax returns is just a level of stupid that is so on brand, I can totally see it.

he’s likely terrified that they’d be leaked anyway

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:37:40pm

re: #245 lawhawk

My respect for Texans has gone way down now that I know of their fear of pretty much anything.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:38:23pm

re: #278 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

”Iran’s connections to Al Qaeda is very real”

So then, Mr. Secretary, can you provide some examples of those connections?

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:38:52pm

re: #245 lawhawk

“…nobody’s ever heard this!”

And there’s a reason for that!

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:39:43pm

“I alone can tell this fairytale!”

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:40:11pm

re: #274 lawhawk

Just wait for the JWST. Gonna be amazing.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:40:56pm

re: #281 Colère Tueur de Lapin

My respect for Texans has gone way down now that I know of their fear of pretty much anything.

Texans have always been afraid. They were afraid of Mexicans, so they declared independence. They were scared of independence so they joined the Union. The were terrified of free black people, so they joined the Confederacy. They were still scared of free black people after getting their asses handed to them that they did the whole Jim Crow thing (and because that fear of Mexicans never went away, they extended it to Mexican Americans too). That’s also why so many of them insist on carrying guns everywhere… so you’re looking at something other than the pee puddles in their pants.

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Jack Burton  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:42:11pm

re: #265 freetoken

I told you yesterday that the public would be disappointed:

We Need to Admit That the Black Hole Photo Isn’t Very Good

We need to admit that journalists don’t know how to cover science stories, and never have.

Jesus H Christ…. we phased arrayed enough telescopes to basically be the size of the whole planet and then imaged something that’s actually invisible and is 53 million light years away. I… just… can’t even….

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:42:24pm

re: #282 KGxvi

So then, Mr. Secretary, can you provide some examples of those connections?

“Uhhh … they shoot at each other whenever they meet?”

Amazing that these dumb fucks still don’t know the difference between Sunni & Shi’a.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:42:25pm

re: #280 Man, DangerMan

he’s likely terrified that they’d be leaked anyway

Right. Congress may not be able to publicly release the tax returns, but I don’t think there’s anything stopping them from publicly commenting on them, like for example: “A review of the Presidents tax returns led to some very serious concerns we feel need to be addressed as soon as possible.”

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Bubblehead II  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:42:29pm

Weeeeeeeee! Here we ago again. Another boom and no power. Back on the laptop and inverter power with smart phone for a WiFi hot spot. Wonder how long it will be this time? Glad I put the battery for the inverter on the charger right after the power came back last time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:43:29pm

re: #265 freetoken

I told you yesterday that the public would be disappointed:

We Need to Admit That the Black Hole Photo Isn’t Very Good

You mean it’s hard to take good pictures of things that are really, REALLY fucking far away?

//

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Citizen K  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:43:59pm

re: #287 Jack Burton

We need to admit that journalists don’t know how to cover science stories, and never have.

Jesus H Christ…. we phased arrayed enough telescopes to basically be the size of the whole planet and then imaged something that’s actually invisible and is 53 million light years away. I… just… can’t even….

Meanwhile, actual astronomy nerds reporters and enthusiasts are over the moon about it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:44:37pm

re: #288 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

“Uhhh … they shoot at each other whenever they meet?”

Amazing that these dumb fucks still don’t know the difference between Sunni & Shi’a.

Aren’t they the ones that sang “I got you babe” ??

/

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:45:34pm

re: #289 Eclectic Cyborg

Right. Congress may not be able to publicly release the tax returns, but I don’t think there’s anything stopping them from publicly commenting on them, like for example: “A review of the Presidents tax returns led to some very serious concerns we feel need to be addressed as soon as possible.”

i was being blunter, but i’ll take it

and actually that slow nuanced kind of ‘leaking’ would drive him batty

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:45:40pm

I’ve been on and off here for the past few days, so I dunno if this has come up - a Qanon nutjob is running for Congress in Florida (where else?)…

Believers in the pro-Trump QAnon conspiracy theory are fond of telling each other to “Trust the Plan”—to remain firm in the belief that Donald Trump and the mysterious forces behind QAnon will, at any moment, defeat the deep-state operatives and Pizzagate-style pedophiles that secretly run the world.

It’s a leap of faith that binds the community together. But one QAnon follower has grown impatient. Instead of trusting the plan, he’s running for Congress.

Matthew Lusk, a Florida bookseller who launched his House campaign for Florida’s 5th congressional district last month, appears to be the first QAnon follower to run for federal office. His candidacy was first reported by Florida Politics, a state politics blog. According to FEC registrations, he is currently the only Republican in the contest to run in the general election against, in all likelihood, Rep. Al Lawson (D-FL).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:45:49pm

re: #292 Citizen K

Seriously. As am I.

Not, it’s not a great picture.

But it’s the FIRST EVER FUCKING PICTURE OF A BLACK HOLE WE’VE EVER HAD. It’s cool and noteworthy even if it’s not a high res masterpiece.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:46:33pm

re: #293 Eclectic Cyborg

Aren’t they the ones that sang “I got you babe” ??

/

+1

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:47:06pm

re: #241 wrenchwench

Sometimes I read the obits just because I enjoy names, even (or maybe especially) when I don’t know whose name it is. These are a first and middle name:

Every day an old white man walks into the news store, takes a look at the paper rack, and shuffles out without buying or even touching one. After a year of this the confused owner asks him:

“What gives with the constant pilgrimage to the newsrack?”
OWM: “I’m just looking at the obituaries.”
Owner: “The obituaries are in Section 3, you old fool.”
OWM: “Not the one I’m looking for.”
—- FDR-era joke

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Jack Burton  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:47:22pm

”Iran’s connections to Al Qaeda is very real”

I’d like to hear more about how a fundamentalist Wahhabi Sunni group (that as far as I know, isn’t even a thing anymore) has connections to a Shia nation’s government.

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Citizen K  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:47:32pm

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

Seriously. As am I.

Not, it’s not a great picture.

But it’s the FIRST EVER FUCKING PICTURE OF A BLACK HOLE WE’VE EVER HAD. It’s cool and noteworthy even if it’s not a high res masterpiece.

It’s like people expecting the fidelity of an iPhone selfie from the first camera boxes from way back in the 19th C.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:48:13pm

“”Iran’s connections to Al Qaeda is very real”

“We know Saddam has WMDs.”

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:49:08pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

I eagerly await this “investigation” of FBI conspiracy against Trump. And here is exactly how it is going to play out:

GOP Senator Trump Lackey #1:
“So you were assigned to investigate Trump’s campaign?”

FBI Investigator #1:
“My assignment was to look into foreign interference in the 2016 US Election.”

GOP Senator Trump Lackey #1:
“And where did this alleged interference come from? Where is your proof?”

FBI Investigator #1:
“My report is on file within the Mueller Report and also evidence files pointing to much more incriminating dealings with foreign conspirators is available within the DOJ”

GOP Senator Trump Lackey #1:
“NO MORE QUESTIONS…In fact let’s just call this whole thing off and call it a merciful end to what will simply divide this country even more than Obama already has!”

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:49:24pm

re: #298 Decatur Deb

Every day an old white man walks into the news store, takes a look at the paper rack, and shuffles out without buying or even touching one. After a year of this the confused owner asks him:

“What gives with the constant pilgrimage to the newsrack?”
OWM: “I’m just looking at the obituaries.”
Owner: “The obituaries are in Section 3, you old fool.”
OWM: “Not the one I’m looking for.”
—- FDR-era joke

every morning i check the obituaries
if im not there, i have a good day

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:50:39pm

re: #302 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I eagerly await this “investigation” of FBI conspiracy against Trump. And here is exactly how it is going to play out:

GOP Senator Trump Lackey #1:
“So you were assigned to investigate Trump’s campaign?”

FBI Investigator #1:
“My assignment was to look into foreign interference in the 2016 US Election.”

GOP Senator Trump Lackey #1:
“And where did this alleged interference come from? Where is your proof?”

FBI Investigator #1:
“My report is on file within the Mueller Report and also evidence files pointing to much more incriminating dealings with foreign conspirators is available within the DOJ”

GOP Senator Trump Lackey #1:
“NO MORE QUESTIONS…In fact let’s just call this whole thing off and call it a merciful end to what will simply divide this country even more than Obama already has!”

so…..fiction

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:51:32pm

re: #299 Jack Burton

Al Qaeda are Qutbist.

They and Wahhabis hate each other.

…not that I’m a fan of either….

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:52:07pm

re: #277 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

“Zoom and enhance.”

I am amazed at the extrapolation that the “enhance” function can deliver with no data. Sure, the resolution of that image is 100x100 pixels, but we can increase it to 100000x100000 for the zoom and keep the same clarity. Must be the different pixel sizes.

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freetoken  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:52:25pm

Let me expand: any such image has to be “fuzzy”.

The light (in this case radio waves) are from different objects (tiny dust grains down to hydrogen atoms) that come from a (variable) halo of material falling down towards the event horizon.

This matter emits photons (long story about synchrotron radiation insert here.)

This mass emitting photons is not a single thing but sort of a super heated cloud.

Then, the photons that do come our way take a tortured path part way around a surface (above the event horizon) that represents all the possible paths a photon can take to reach us from any starting point.

Then whatever photons are heading our way have to travel through space which has other massive objects (such as stars) that also bend their paths a little bit.

End the end, what one gets is… fuzz.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:55:26pm

Trump Actually Does Have a Health Care Plan

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:55:34pm

SMOTI strikes again…

Assange was in … wait for it… the Ecuadorian embassy. He was their guest. He was there only by their good graces, so seeing what he was doing was entirely within their right.

If he didn’t like it, he could have left (and faced criminal charges in the UK and elsewhere).

Assange and WL are cutouts for a Russian psyops. How do we know this? The preponderance of the evidence suggests it.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:56:31pm

Looking at a 1600 hrs restoration time. If this shit keeps up I am going to have to break out the propane camp stove & lantern just to cook dinner tonight.

Link

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:57:00pm

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

Seriously.
Not, it’s not a great picture.

Not sure how to parse your layered negatives. I think it’s an amazing picture.

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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 10, 2019 • 1:58:13pm

re: #299 Jack Burton

”Iran’s connections to Al Qaeda is very real”

I’d like to hear more about how a fundamentalist Wahhabi Sunni group (that as far as I know, isn’t even a thing anymore) has connections to a Shia nation’s government.

Wahhabis aren’t Sunnis, actually, but they get along with them better than with others — at least as long as they have a common enemy.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:00:13pm

re: #312 A hollow voice says, Oringes…

Wahhabis aren’t Sunnis, actually, but they get along with them better than with others — at least as long as they have a common enemy.

Sunni - Shia: the big schism
Within Sunni there are various sects, of which Salafism is the branch that includes Wahabism. Wahabists include OBL and AQ.

They aren’t likely to line up with anyone who isn’t at least Sunni to achieve their aims and goals as they considers others infidels or nonbelievers.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:01:09pm

re: #311 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Not sure how to parse your layered negatives. I think it’s an amazing picture.

“Amazing as in that’s an actual picture of a black hole” doesn’t have to equal “amazing as in that’s a clear picture”.

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Jack Burton  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:03:03pm

re: #305 The Ghost of Quesos Past

Al Qaeda are Qutbist.

They and Wahhabis hate each other.

…not that I’m a fan of either….

This is not what I’ve been told for oh, 20 years or so but I’m not going argue because those saying otherwise could very well be just as ignorant as a Salon writer talking about the Schwarzschild Radius of a Supermassive Black Hole.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:03:27pm

He wants Border Patrol to start shooting people.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:04:15pm

re: #269 Mike Lamb

Idiots. Give it 20 years, maybe. Look at the difference in photos of Pluto from the 90’s to the 10’s.

First high resolution image of Pluto causes concern
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:05:39pm

re: #316 jaunte

[Embedded content]

He wants Border Patrol to start shooting people.

and no one sitting there questions it at all

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:07:33pm

Cute break: LIVE TRIBBLES!

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:09:23pm

re: #316 jaunte

[Embedded content]

He wants Border Patrol to start shooting people.

Because he’s a wannabe Mafia thug, and lacks the coglioni to carry it off.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:12:06pm

Folks in Crosby, site of a recent fatal chemical plant fire, gather to cheer Trump as he loosens environmental controls on pipelines.

Suckers aplenty.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:15:03pm

re: #314 Belafon

“Amazing as in that’s an actual picture of a black hole” doesn’t have to equal “amazing as in that’s a clear picture”.

It’s an amazingly clear picture of anything 53-fucking million light years away. The fuzzy edges don’t detract from its clarity.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:16:17pm
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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:17:22pm

So, not full, then.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:18:44pm

re: #316 jaunte

[Embedded content]

He wants Border Patrol to start shooting people.

Jesus Christ.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:19:05pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:19:48pm

re: #322 Colère Tueur de Lapin

It’s an amazingly clear picture of anything 53-fucking million light years away. The fuzzy edges don’t detract from its clarity.

That’s what Vincent said to Theo.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:21:12pm

BEES!

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:21:26pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:22:28pm

re: #324 jaunte

How New Yawker’s view the county and the country’s view of New York.
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Jay C  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:23:56pm

re: #290 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Weeeeeeeee! Here we ago again. Another boom and no power. Back on the laptop and inverter power with smart phone for a WiFi hot spot. Wonder how long it will be this time? Glad I put the battery for the inverter on the charger right after the power came back last time.

Does this happen often enough (and/or your budget allow) to rationalize getting a larger backup power-supply?

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:24:28pm

re: #330 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And this classic:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:25:09pm

re: #328 goddamnedfrank

BEES!

[Embedded content]

Wow. That’s gotta be a metaphor for something.

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ckkatz  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:26:03pm

re: #305 The Ghost of Quesos Past

Al Qaeda are Qutbist.

They and Wahhabis hate each other.

…not that I’m a fan of either….

Interesting… Times are changing… And the rider may get eaten by what it is riding.

I had always understood that Wahhabi-Salafism was derived in the Hanbali School of Islamic jurisprudence. (One of the 4 Islamic schools or ‘fiqh’.)

“The Hanbali school experienced a reformation in the Wahhabi-Salafist movement.”

en.wikipedia.org

But apparently that traditionalist interpretation of Salafi’ism may be changing. I wonder where the money to pay for this is originating. Traditionally it was from the Gulf.

“The Salafi da’wa is a methodology, but it is not a madh’hab in fiqh (jurisprudence) as is commonly misunderstood. Salafis may be influenced by the Maliki, Shafi’i, Hanbali or the Hanafi schools of Sunni fiqh.”

en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:26:44pm

Needy monster is needy.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:28:14pm

re: #332 jaunte

Garment District, 1964:

“Youse got an accent. Where ya from?”
“Pittsburgh.”
“Oh. Out West.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:28:47pm

Fundies gonna get us killed. Salafi, Wahabi, Al Q, or Christian.
I have immense faith in the existence of God, and none whatsoever in mens religions.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:32:06pm

Powers back (for now). Switching back to the desk top.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:34:53pm
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Jay C  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:37:10pm

re: #324 jaunte

[Embedded content]

So, not full, then.

Fifth Avenue actually runs parallel to Park Avenue - I’m guessing 200 yards apart, max.
So IOW, considering that Trump is unlikely to want to shift his fat lazy ass that far on foot if he can help, Park might just as well be in Texas. Unless he drives.
Maroon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:37:19pm

re: #335 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Needy monster is needy.

doing that hand yanking thing, I see

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:38:10pm

re: #340 Jay C

I assume he was never a big walker, so he probably doesn’t have a good idea of how the streets connect.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:38:28pm

Ohio passed the Human Rights and Heartbeat Protection Act.

Now to the courts.

Heard one woman say Ohio just made women slaves to the wishes of men.

It is expected that little creep governor Mike DeWine will sign it enthusiastically.

Fuck this shit.

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BeachDem  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:39:45pm

re: #324 jaunte

[Embedded content]

So, not full, then.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:41:14pm
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Jay C  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:45:59pm

re: #328 goddamnedfrank

BEES!

[Embedded content]

So - just typical. The Taiwanese woman with the bees in her eye was infested by what are called “sweat bees”. And the linked article closes with this:

There are more than 1000 species of sweat bees in the U.S., Canada, and Central America.

Nearly 50 species alone are found in Florida.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:47:58pm

re: #346 Jay C

Note to self: NEVER move to Florida.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:48:40pm

re: #346 Jay C

Nearly 50 species alone are found in Florida.

Should’ve led with this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:49:16pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:50:33pm

re: #346 Jay C

So - just typical. The Taiwanese woman with the bees in her eye was infested by what are called “sweat bees”. And the linked article closes with this:

re: #347 Eclectic Cyborg

Note to self: NEVER move to Florida.

Just finished camping for a couple days at Collier-Seminole State Park. The Ranger station displays a mosquito-level alert:

Low
Moderate
Donor

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fern01  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:51:10pm

re: #89 Mike Lamb

So now he’s outright accusing people of treason as it pertains to the Russia investigation. Swell.

Always a reflection of self in any GOP statement.

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Jay C  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:52:43pm

re: #347 Eclectic Cyborg

Note to self: NEVER move to Florida.

No need for reminders here (IMHO): on the scale of “wildlife problems” in the Sunshine State, the sweat bees are fairly far down the listLink…

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:53:52pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hmmm seems to have a far lower standard of evidence for suspicion on that one vs collusion, which was a split decision among the professionals involved. Bought and paid for.

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fern01  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:54:17pm

re: #124 Patricia Kayden

My understanding is that gerrymandering doesn’t impact the Senate since those are state-wide votes.

Voter suppression is the GOP answer to winning the Senate

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:56:20pm
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:57:23pm

re: #328 goddamnedfrank

BEES!

[Embedded content]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:58:53pm
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mmmirele  Apr 10, 2019 • 2:59:39pm

re: #343 ObserverArt

Ohio passed the Human Rights and Heartbeat Protection Act.

Now to the courts.

Heard one woman say Ohio just made women slaves to the wishes of men.

It is expected that little creep governor Mike DeWine will sign it enthusiastically.

Fuck this shit.

I have my pink wire coathangers ready as visible demonstration pieces of what we’re going back to.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:02:44pm

re: #352 Jay C

That was taken about 15 miles from our campground, possibly during our stay.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:02:58pm
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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:05:09pm
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:06:06pm

re: #360 jaunte

[Embedded content]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:11:24pm

re: #360 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I’m actually guessing Israel

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:13:06pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:13:18pm

Since the ski area closed, things have become *so fucking* dumb. So dumb. Just mind-numbingly dumb. My cynicism is getting larger. I need to go skiing again. I will, this weekend.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:13:41pm

KERRY: We know definitively that at least in the last 800,000 years, has atmospheric CO2 been as high as it is today….

MASSIE: The reason you chose 800,000 years ago is because 200 million years before that it was greater than it was today.

KERRY: Yeah, but there weren’t HUMAN BEINGS then, it was a different WORLD, folks, we didn’t have 7 billion people!

MASSIE: So, how did it get to 2000 ppm if we humans weren’t here?

KERRY: Because there were all kinds of geologic events going on on Earth that spewed up —

MASSIE: Did geology stop when we got on the planet?

KERRY: Mr. Chairman, (to Chairman Cummings) this is just not a serious conversation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:15:22pm
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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:15:23pm

re: #316 jaunte

[Embedded content]

He wants Border Patrol to start shooting people.

Not the Border Patrol… the US Army. He wants the US Army to fire live ammunition on citizens of another country who are in a third country.

He wants a war with Latin America.

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freetoken  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:15:54pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

You knew it was going to happen…

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:21:07pm

AG Barr repeating Infowars conspiracy theories in front of Congress. Good times.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:21:28pm

Because I’m sure Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico would be totally cool with us mowing down their people en masse at the border.

//

Ugh, it felt icky to even write something like that.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:22:33pm

re: #337 Unshaken Defiance

Fundies gonna get us killed. Salafi, Wahabi, Al Q, or Christian.
I have immense faith in the existence of God, and none whatsoever in mens religions.

I watched the first episode of Game of Thrones the other day, while debating whether to binge rewatch the series before the start of the last season, there’s this great line in that episode about religion.

Cat Stark says something about being an outsider in the godswoods and Ned tells her she’s not an outsider, followed by this exchange:

Cat Stark: I wonder if the old gods agree.
Ned Stark: It’s your gods with all the rules.

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2019 • 3:23:06pm

Sitting congressman Massie confusing B.A.’s and B.S.’s, and *doubling down* on his ignorance. Good times.

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Old Liberal  Apr 10, 2019 • 4:20:04pm

re: #361 jaunte

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You can tell that Massie is just totally pleased with his “cleverness “


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