Danny Elfman Is “Happy”

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“Happy” by Danny Elfman
Stream & download: https://dannyelfman.ffm.to/happy

“HAPPY” VIDEO & ARTWORK
Directed by Aron Johnson
Art Direction by Berit Gwendolyn Gilma
3d Photography: Sarah Sitkin

Music and Lyrics by Danny Elfman
Produced by Danny Elfman and Randall Dunn
Engineered by Noah Snyder

Vocals, Guitars & Synths by Danny Elfman
Drums - Josh Freese
Guitars - Nili Brosh
Bass - Stu Brooks

Additional Synth design by Randall Dunn

Orchestrated by Steve Bartek
Midi Prep – Marc Mann and Orlando Perez Rosso
Copyist – Scott McRae
Orchestra - Budapest Scoring Orchestra
Orchestra Producer - Bálint Sapszon

Mixed by Randall Dunn at Strange Weather Recording
Assisted by Ben Greenberg and Garrett de Block
Mastered by Gavin Lurssen Mastering

Executive Produced by Laura Engel
Project Produced by Melisa McGregor

Danny Elfman’s Representation - Kraft-Engel Management

Lyrics

I’m so happy— Happy!
I’m so happy— Happy!
I’m so happy— Happy!

Everything is crumbling (crumbling,crumbling)
Everything is crumbling (crumbling,crumbling)
Everything is crumbling (crumbling,crumbling)

Happy! - Happy! - Happy! - Happy! - Happy! - Happy! -

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Choose your Poison - Poison!
Choose your Poison - Poison!
Choose your Poison - Poison!

Everything is shutting down (shutting down, shutting down)
Everything is shutting down (shutting down, shutting down)
Everything is shutting down (shutting down, shutting down)

Poison - Poison - Happy! - Happy! - Happy! - Happy! -

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EAT (Eat) - FLY (Fly) - SILENCE (Silence) - JOY (Joy)
CAT (Cat) - SEQUENCE (Sequence) - FUTURE (Future) - PUPPY (Mother fucking puppy)
MY (My) - OWN (Own) - MOTHER (Mother) - FUCKING (Mother fucking)
LIFE - BURNED DOWN LIKE A HOLE IN THE WARM SOFT GROUND

HOUSE - CHILD - HAPPY - FEAR
Of my — own — voice
Concentrating on flies
Fill me up - knock me down
Take my hand, in my hand, and my eloquent knife
Through my heart — through my heart
Straight through my mother — mother fucking

Heart belongs to you - My Heart belongs to you..

Puppy, Puppy, Puppy, Puppy.

Eyes for an eye, eye for an eye —
Tickety-tackety, tickety-tackety

Eye for an eye, Tooth for a tooth —
It’s never enough, but it’s never the truth
Life is a treat so pretty and pink.

Youth is wasted on the mother,
Youth is, youth is wasted on the mother,
Youth is wasted on the mother fucking,
Wasted on the mother fucking youth.

I’m so happy — Happy!
I’m so happy — Happy!

Snap chat- Rotting rats- Minecraft- Cheerios
Netfiix- Bag of tricks- soothe my soul

My anesthesiologist is fucking my psychiatrist
And I feel no pain- cover me with Lidocane
I’m so happy everything’s so great
And the world is an oyster on an appetizer plate.

Happy, Happy, Happy, Happy

Offiicial Site: https://www.dannyelfman.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dannyelfman/
Twitter: @dannyelfman
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dannyelfman/

#dannyelfman #antirecords #epitaph

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396 comments
1
bratwurst  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:12:14pm
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mmmirele  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:17:41pm
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thecommodore  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:20:09pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:21:50pm

This video is like a bad psychedelic trip at a Marilyn Manson concert.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:25:36pm

Cled (PBUH) on the last thread.

Dinner is served.

And yes, it was good. Fish & Chips, My way.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:30:32pm
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:33:12pm

The next time Miller gets invited on shows the other person shouod just cut him off every time he tries to talk:

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calochortus  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:37:23pm

re: #7 Belafon

The next time Miller gets invited on shows the other person shouod just cut him off every time he tries to talk:

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Yeah, they’ll try to “steal it back” by counting the votes. I’m shocked.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:37:50pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:40:26pm
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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:41:30pm

re: #10 Patricia Kayden

250 National Guardsmen have been put on standby

To help build a fence?

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:44:23pm

re: #11 jaunte

To help build a fence?

To keep Trump inside?

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Interesting Times  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:45:34pm

re: #9 jaunte

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I’m trying to think of what could possibly break this stranglehold Cheeto Benito has on these cultists, and the only thing that comes to mind is something that so utterly and completely destroys his “alpha male” image that even they can’t deny it. But I have no idea what specific form that could take…

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mmmirele  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:45:45pm

In better news, the recovery team for the Japanese Hayabusa 2 asteroid sampling mission has arrived in Australia and is in a 2 week quarantine.

Once out of the quarantine, the team will head to the Woomera Desert, where they are expected to receive the capsule on December 6.

hayabusa2.jaxa.jp

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:46:13pm

re: #13 Interesting Times

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:46:15pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:49:36pm

re: #11 jaunte

To help build a fence?

A fence authorized by the Obama administration that Trump is just now getting around to erecting 24 hours before the election.

Surely, no one can or should question the timing.
Or the presence of 250 National Guard troops on standby.
Nothing to see here. It’s all that dastardly Obama’s doing.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:51:02pm

re: #9 jaunte

When dealing with Trumpworld, always demand the money up front. Always.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:58:32pm

Ok I’ve finished phonebanking for Joe. 3 3-day weekends calling for him. Too tired to do any more. All talked out…

Final impressions—Solid for Joe—Texas!!!!, Ohio, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia.

Joe has a good shot—Kansas, Montana, Iowa, Alaska, Florida, Mississippi!!!.

Leaning Trump—Pennsylvania

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:00:37pm

re: #13 Interesting Times

I’m trying to think of what could possibly break this stranglehold Cheeto Benito has on these cultists, and the only thing that comes to mind is something that so utterly and completely destroys his “alpha male” image that even they can’t deny it. But I have no idea what specific form that could take…

Losing the election on Tuesday.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:01:35pm

Dumb shits.

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:02:24pm

re: #5 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Cled (PBUH) on the last thread.

Dinner is served.

And yes, it was good. Fish & Chips, My way.

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Not bad; better than me. I did two hamburgers, a can of baked beans and a can of carrots with canned pears for a dessert. Cans… O_o

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:05:38pm

Where’s my chair-throwing GIF?

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:06:49pm

re: #15 jaunte

My brother is one of those types. Doesn’t understand why he doesn’t get the reward he deserves for being a white, four time married male with no college degree when his brother and sister have their masters, single marriages, and steady jobs.

And no, this isn’t a knock against people without degrees. This is a knock on people who had it no worse than others and yet think they deserve something for just being alive.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:06:55pm

re: #5 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Cled (PBUH) on the last thread.

Dinner is served.

And yes, it was good. Fish & Chips, My way.

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Fiesta!

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calochortus  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:08:23pm

re: #22 William Lewis

Not bad; better than me. I did two hamburgers, a can of baked beans and a can of carrots with canned pears for a dessert. Cans… O_o

Fish tacos here with apple crisp for dessert. I learned something. I used packaged gluten free tortillas instead of making them because I was kind of tired. That particular brand apparently responds to be wrapped in foil and popped into the oven for 15 minutes by welding the tortillas together and baking them into a solid mass. (They’re a bit heavy on the xanthan gum.) Anyway, I managed to sort of separate one of them and flaked off bits of the other two and proceeded. The tacos were tasty, but a mess.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:08:51pm

re: #23 Sherlock Hound

Where’s my chair-throwing GIF?

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Paul Simon?

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:10:30pm

re: #23 Sherlock Hound

Where’s my chair-throwing GIF?

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You can use this one:

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John Vreeland  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:15:36pm

Just opened the Worldjam.vip show yesterday with a performance of “Dead Man’s Party”. That’s a wicked song for a band to cover with that much latency (we have members from Dallas to Tampa to Boston), but I think we pulled it off. And lest you think the mix is a bit rough, they have gotten better. I think I hear all the instruments.

World Jam 31 - Halloween Theme Night

Anyway, it’s a cool new way for bands to perform, though I’m not sure how I feel about the “play one song and never play it again—ever” format.

Oh, and I guess I should explain: It’s a Danny Elfman tune. He performed it on the movie “Back to School” starrning Rodney Dangerfield.

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:17:46pm

Nice to see Elfman is normal as ever.

//

I could see Oingo Boingo doing that one.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:19:29pm

re: #5 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Cled (PBUH) on the last thread.

Dinner is served.

And yes, it was good. Fish & Chips, My way.

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I just had a bowl of Cheerios for dinner. Ate it quick so I could get back on the phones. But I am glad that I phone banked 3 straight weekends. Now just working on a pot of decaf. Tired but hoping that I made a difference.

It was so fun talking to people all over the country yeah there were a bunch of Debbie Downers too but at least I tried with them!

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:20:03pm

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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:20:54pm

I got in the car today and started driving. I ended up in Pennsylvania. (I needed a, long drive. It’s been a lot of stress.)

Pleasant surprise: get off 79 south of Erie, in some of the reddest counties in the state… and yes, there are some Trump signs (but not wall to wall). But there were Biden signs, too. Quite a few of them, and in deep red small towns like Meadville and especially Franklin. That’s oil country, going way back to the 19th century. There were NO Hillary signs there in 2016.

Rolling south to Butler was a little grimmer. A bunch of businesses with big “Welcome Trump” signs for his visit there.

Stopped for the night just outside Pittsburgh. You know when you’re near the Allegheny County line because the signs change in a hurry. Lots of Biden signage around Allison Park.

Heading back home tomorrow with a minimum of human contact (though most in the small-town gas stations were masked!)… I’ll be interested to see what the signage looks like out to the east of here.

And yeah, signs don’t vote. But they’re at least something of a gauge. Seeing the Biden signs in Venango County made me a little hopeful. He doesn’t have to win there… just keep Trump from adding any votes to his 2016 totals.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:23:22pm
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:32:12pm

re: #13 Interesting Times

I’m trying to think of what could possibly break this stranglehold Cheeto Benito has on these cultists, and the only thing that comes to mind is something that so utterly and completely destroys his “alpha male” image that even they can’t deny it. But I have no idea what specific form that could take…

Putin dumps the GOP e-mails the Russians hacked in 2016 and we see just how kinky and perverted Republicans are. Oh and Putin puts the pee tape on Pornhub…

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:32:46pm
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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:37:08pm
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:37:46pm

Well Facebook blocked the Lincoln Project Don Jr Cocaine video on my page once again “violating community standards”.

But relatives can cheer the Biden Bus being attacked and that’s okay with Marky Mark…Just another reason to post less on Facebook…

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:40:47pm

re: #37 jaunte

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Won’t stop Fox and OANN from calling Rev. Barber a Communist…

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:41:27pm

I was never a Deadhead. But I note that one of the best moments, American Beauty, was released 50 years ago today. So, in their honor, here’s my favorite moment on that album.

Grateful Dead - Friend of The Devil

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:41:39pm

re: #39 🌹UOJB!

Won’t stop Fox and OANN from calling Rev. Barber a Communist…

I doubt Barber cares.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:42:33pm

re: #34 Dread Pirate Ron

I was wondering why it didn’t show up:

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:43:41pm
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:44:24pm
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:44:59pm
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:46:16pm

re: #45 Belafon

Our job isn’t to wring our hands over him trying. Our job is to forcefully declare that he can’t and stand up against those who try to say otherwise.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:48:29pm
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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:51:46pm

If you happen to be feeling relaxed and content, this will fix you up right quick.

endlessdoomscroller.com

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:55:28pm

re: #13 Interesting Times

I’m trying to think of what could possibly break this stranglehold Cheeto Benito has on these cultists, and the only thing that comes to mind is something that so utterly and completely destroys his “alpha male” image that even they can’t deny it. But I have no idea what specific form that could take…

I’d argue that what they find appealing is not a deeply-encoded version of masculinity, but just his raw incontinent use of whatever power he has available. The base belief here is that power justifies itself, so “alpha male” means nothing but “gets away with doing what they want” and has no elements that constrain or form boundaries for what is disqualifying. Bad behavior, even “unmanly” bad behavior like whining, self pity, and self indulgence are still displays of power.

Conservatism already accepts that those with power have the right to break the rules and that it is inevitable, an inherent feature of power. Televangelists will rob their followers, any rich guy with power will do strange sex stuff…this is all okay as long as they’re not embarrassing or gross. Conservatism also already has a Procrustean relationship with its own core beliefs—ideals can be amputated or stretched to excuse abuse of powers, to the point that there is no core belief that constrains their wants or pursuits. But conservatism fetishizes hierarchy and rituals of discretion: you get to break the moral rules if you’ve clout enough and respect the etiquette norms of your caste.

But if you’re the bottom of the power hierarchy, there’s little chance that you’ll personally get to indulge your power-wants, and the appeal of Donald Trump is that he does the stupid, cruel, disgusting things these people see as the natural right of a powerful person…minus the decorum and taste that is typically used to disguise such behavior. That he is a mediocrity that has attained the power to engage in the transgression of all standards—especially the standards they believe are meaningful—is the appeal.

re: #24 Belafon

My brother is one of those types. Doesn’t understand why he doesn’t get the reward he deserves for being a white, four time married male with no college degree when his brother and sister have their masters, single marriages, and steady jobs.

And no, this isn’t a knock against people without degrees. This is a knock on people who had it no worse than others and yet think they deserve something for just being alive.

…but it’s not that they want something.

Like, as a leftist I can propose multiple schemata of how every person regardless of ability deserves some minimums of acknowledgement, dignity, belonging, etc.

What these people want isn’t any of that; it is specifically that they want dominance…power enough to do as they please, dictate to others but never be held to another’s standard. This is why they all behave the same way regardless of what demographic slice of income/education/region/etc they come from: their commonality is simply a desire for more license—the ability to abuse whatever power they can grasp, while the system constrains others from stopping or criticizing their use of power.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:56:55pm

As early voting ends in Duval County FL (Jacksonville) 399,051 people have cast ballots (early & mail-in)
In 2016 a total of ~428,000 ballots were cast

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:59:00pm
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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:07:23pm

Fuck Libertarians. This isn’t a parliamentary system you idiots.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:12:06pm

I half suspect that the Trumpists blocking bridges in NY and NJ among other places is some inherent frustration that their votes for the Orange One are meaningless in the face of residing in a “socialist” state.
/

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:14:09pm

re: #53 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I half suspect that the Trumpists blocking bridges in NY and NJ among other places is some inherent frustration that their votes for the Orange One are meaningless in the face of residing in a “socialist” state.
/

Yeah, they’re blowing off steam. A helpless howl of impotent rage.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:14:58pm

re: #52 jaunte

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Fuck Libertarians. This isn’t a parliamentary system you idiots.

I hope she pulls enough votes from Shithead in every one of those states to tip them to Biden.

That would be sweet fucking revenge for 2016!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:15:33pm

re: #52 jaunte

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Fuck Libertarians. This isn’t a parliamentary system you idiots.

I haven’t researched it in depth but I think it’s a safe bet that Jorgensen is the only on-the-ballot presidential candidate in history to have been bitten by a bat during the campaign.
Libertarian Presidential Candidate Skips Campaign Rally After Saying She Was Bitten by a Bat

Here’s one for 2020 bingo: Libertarian presidential candidate Jo Jorgensen announced she’d have to skip a rally on Saturday because she’d been bitten by a bat.

“I will not be able to attend the campaign rally tomorrow morning,” she tweeted Friday. “I will be getting a rabies vaccine as a precaution after having been bitten by a bat near the start of this campaign tour!”

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:16:16pm

re: #56 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I’m fully sympathetic with the bat.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:16:52pm

Bite Libertarians until they stop.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:18:55pm

Meanwhile some DSAers here are hoping Hawkins (G.R.E.E.N.) pulls enough votes from Biden to tip it to Trump.

F Howie Hawkins and F the Getting Republicans Elected Every November Assholes!

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:19:52pm

Creepiest president* in history

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:20:30pm

re: #55 🌹UOJB!

I hope she pulls enough votes from Shithead in every one of those states to tip them to Biden.

That would be sweet fucking revenge for 2016!

I really doubt there are any Libertarians thinking “I might have voted for Biden if I didn’t have this choice.”

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Jack Burton  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:21:34pm

Everyone that votes Green this year should be required to explain why they voted that way to every African American, Woman, LGBTQ, and Refugee child in a cage.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:23:10pm

OK, off to work. Back later.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:23:24pm

re: #49 The Ghost of a Flea

I always get happy when I see your nym above a bunch of text. (f’real - no sarcasm!)

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:26:18pm

re: #19 🌹UOJB!

Ok I’ve finished phonebanking for Joe. 3 3-day weekends calling for him. Too tired to do any more. All talked out…

Final impressions—Solid for Joe—Texas!!!!, Ohio, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia.

Joe has a good shot—Kansas, Montana, Iowa, Alaska, Florida, Mississippi!!!.

Leaning Trump—Pennsylvania

With Pennsylvania, I mentioned a few days ago the possibility that [begin CT] the fatal shooting of Walter Wallace Jr was deliberate in order to provoke the violence that did erupt in the streets [end CT] After all most police are firm supporters of Trump. Trump had believed that the “law and order” motif would help him retain the presidency but everything had quieted down so something needed to be done to reignite violence, and it succeeded.

It’s amazing how these voters do not see that the violence is happening in Trump’s America — and if he is re-elected, it will explode. The police will understand that they now have full permission for any violation of a citizen’s rights, especially if the citizen is a person of color or a Democrat. As Biden repeats, we need law and order with justice. Without justice, we are living under a tyrannical regime — and that’s where we are headed, unless we can regain full control of the government.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:26:54pm

An interesting statement from Adam Silverman over at Balloon Juice:

Everyone needs to stop freaking out and knee jerking about which demographic is turning out in which ways for Biden versus 2016 or 2012 or 2008. The coalition that VP Biden has built, as well as that has coalesced around him, is not a recreation of President Obama’s 2008 or 2012 coalitions. Nor is it an attempt to recreate Secretary Clinton’s 2016 coalition and then expand it in the demographics that underperformed for her vis a vis for President Obama in 2008 and 2012. Rather, the coalition that VP Biden built was, as I forecast back in January 2019, initially from the left through to the center. With the addition of the NeverTrumpers, whether former Republicans or Republicans who recognize the threat that the Republic is in and are doing the right thing by crossing over and supporting VP Biden’s candidacy, and VP Biden’s ability to pull in non-college educated more rural and blue collar whites, especially white men, tells us something important. What VP Biden has built in terms of an electoral coalition is, for all intents and purposes, a national unity coalition. It now runs from the left anchored by Senator Sanders and all but his most rabid supporters all the way out to the center right with a number of Republicans for Biden, The Lincoln Project folks and their supporters, and at least half of the National Security Leaders for Biden*. This is something almost unseen in modern American political history. And it is important to remember just how broad, wide, and deep VP Biden’s coalition is when you see, hear, and/or read reporting on some proportion of what would normally be a Democratic demographic not turning out in the numbers like they did in 2016, 2012, or 2008. So don’t freak out. Realize just what the Biden coalition is and what it represents.

balloon-juice.com

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JC1  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:30:19pm

re: #52 jaunte

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Fuck Libertarians. This isn’t a parliamentary system you idiots.

I think that she’ll take more votes from Trump than Biden.

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Jack Burton  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:31:08pm

re: #61 Belafon

I really doubt there are any Libertarians thinking “I might have voted for Biden if I didn’t have this choice.”

Not many but there are some really asininely stupid or mentally unstable people out there taking up oxygen and… voting.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:32:16pm
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Jack Burton  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:33:15pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Neues Preußisches Blau

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:33:58pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Prussian Red, White & BLEW

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:35:59pm

24 hours from now New Hampshire’s Dixville Notch and Hart’s Landing will have announced their vote totals…keeping fingers crossed…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:38:19pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Sniff and the Tears

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:38:40pm

If trump fires Fauci, what is to stop the Dr. from going on all the networks and trashing trump? Also what would stop Biden from hiring him as an advisor to the transition team?

When trump loses I don’t think (actually I Know he doesn’t) care about the lame duck session. The more shit he creates, the easier it will be for democrats to change the rules in the Senate and promising to look into more trump crimes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:40:26pm

re: #74 I Would Prefer Not To

Hell, I’m kind of surprised Fauci had lasted this long.

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cat-tikvah  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:41:02pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Plastic Oh Hell No Band

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:42:45pm

re: #74 I Would Prefer Not To

If trump fires Fauci, what is to stop the Dr. from going on all the networks and trashing trump? Also what would stop Biden from hiring him as an advisor to the transition team?

When trump loses I don’t think (actually I Know he doesn’t) care about the lame duck session. The more shit he creates, the easier it will be for democrats to change the rules in the Senate and promising to look into more trump crimes.

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Now watch what happens AFTER November 3rd when Covid infections explode AND Trump fires Dr. Fauci…

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:43:42pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The Inflatadolls.

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BeachDem  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:49:46pm

re: #56 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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I haven’t researched it in depth but I think it’s a safe bet that Jorgensen is the only on-the-ballot presidential candidate in history to have been bitten by a bat during the campaign.
Libertarian Presidential Candidate Skips Campaign Rally After Saying She Was Bitten by a Bat

And remember, her veep candidate, “Spike” Cohen was originally linked to Vermin Supreme’s candidacy.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:57:42pm

re: #77 🌹UOJB!

Now watch what happens AFTER November 3rd when Covid infections explode AND Trump fires Dr. Fauci…

We’re rounding the corner, I mean turning. It’s late I’m turning in.

Peace and Love and FT

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:08:22pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Pussy Galore?

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VegasGolfer  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:17:53pm

Re: Nevada.
thenevadaindependent.com

The Clark Dem firewall is now above 89,500 with a big new batch of mail that posted overnight. This is well above the 73,000-ballot firewall of 2016 and even above the 87,600 extrapolated number taking into account the increase in voters on the rolls since four years ago.

If you look at the math below, it already was very difficult for Trump. Now he has less of a chance to win than he does of getting a gaming license in Nevada.

I don’t know how much more mail will be returned before Tuesday, nor do I know how many ballots will be rejected (the rate so far shows it doesn’t change the lead very much). But the dice are cast, and they look like snake eyes for the GOP.

More than 400,000 ballots have been cast by mail in Clark County and more than 775,000 overall. The number of votes left for Election Day continues to dwindle, and the chances of an overwhelming GOP turnout to turn this around becomes less and less likely.

More later, but the math is just not there for Trump.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:39:55pm

It’s still night for some of you lizards, but here it is the early morning, as I start my first shift change of the year. I’m in the pre-work period now, waking up early to try to get my brain adjusted to the new time it is expected to be alert and productive. How go things in the overnight shift among the Lizardim?

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thecommodore  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:48:47pm

Videotape Reveals Corporate-Funded Plan To Try To Overturn A Trump Loss

Iframe

“Obviously we all want President Trump to win,” said Lisa Nelson, chair of the controversial American Legislative Exchange Council, which was responsible for getting the at-times-lethal “Stand your ground” laws enacted in several states.

“Really what it comes down to is the states and the state legislators,” Nelson noted in remarks in February, recorded in a videotape obtained by Documented, a watchdog group that tracks corporate influence on public policy.

Nelson and three Republican attorneys were already drafting letters then “questioning the validity” of a Trump loss that state legislator members of ALEC could submit to local officials to challenge the ballots.

“They can write a letter to the secretary of state questioning the validity of an election and saying what did happen that night,” Nelson told an election strategy session of the conservative Council for National Policy (see the video above). “So we are drafting a lot of those things … they can start to … exercise their political muscle in that area.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:57:10pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The Kinks

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:59:46pm

re: #84 thecommodore

I mean, we’ve already seen their game plan. They’re going to challenge the results in every state they lose, saying:

1) Ballots received after Election Day are invalid because wharrgarbl, and
2) Because the states mingled the ballots and didn’t separate them, all mail-in ballots should be invalidated.

I think their odds of success with such a strategy are exceedingly low, but we’ll just have to see the train wreck unfold live starting on Wednesday morning to find out.

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thecommodore  Nov 1, 2020 • 11:11:36pm

re: #86 Dopefish: Ever hopeful.

I think their odds of success with such a strategy are exceedingly low, but we’ll just have to see the train wreck unfold live starting on Wednesday morning to find out.

Amy Coney Barrett’s confirmation was rushed through, in part, to help in this ratfuckery.

If something like this goes to SCOTUS, will they actually uphold it?

Roberts, Kavanaugh, Barrett, and of course Thomas are all veterans of Bush v Gore in one way or another. That leaves Gorsuch as a potential swing vote?

Conservative minority rule has been a wet dream of the right since Nixon, and now it’s within reach.

Maybe I am being alarmist. I will never be happier to eat crow if I am, but I can’t say I’m not very worried.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 1, 2020 • 11:31:35pm

In a sane world, we’d laugh at someone who’s deep in debt with their gun collection. We wouldn’t write him up in the NYT as a poor economic victim.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 11:31:43pm

re: #40 William Lewis

I was never a Deadhead. But I note that one of the best moments, American Beauty, was released 50 years ago today. So, in their honor, here’s my favorite moment on that album.

I never got into the whole Deadhead scene but I have been to see them at least three times and yeah, this album is one of my favorites.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 11:39:14pm

re: #88 Sherlock Hound

Pro tip for the media: economically stressed people cannot afford to buy $40,000 long bed trucks and travel from state to state to participate in caravans that harass political candidates, blocking parkways and congregating on bridges.

I grew up in the industrial Midwest during the Golden Age of the working white man. All you needed was to sign on after high school, acquire some seniority, and you could afford a house and car and put your kids through state college without even having to send the wife off to work.

And those guys were every bit as bigoted & racist as the “economically stressed” ones of today.

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A hollow voice says,1st Round on points. Onward!  Nov 1, 2020 • 11:39:16pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

Hell, I’m kind of surprised Fauci had lasted this long.

DT hasn’t fired him because he can’t. The new rules he’s trying to put through might change that, but they will surely be contested before they can take effect.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 1, 2020 • 11:39:38pm

Beware this propaganda. It makes you into a child.

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A hollow voice says,1st Round on points. Onward!  Nov 1, 2020 • 11:44:11pm

re: #92 Sherlock Hound

Beware this propaganda. It makes you into a child.

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The repugs are afraid that once we have power, we’ll treat them the way they want to treat us.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 1, 2020 • 11:48:59pm

re: #92 Sherlock Hound

Beware this propaganda. It makes you into a child.

Rendering this into childhood-simple “but we can be friends when this is done” is not just both-siderism, but the gamification of politics. That one party is an existential threat because they don’t treat it as a game but cheat and throw punches and the other party is supposed to behave as though this is normal wouldn’t be any more acceptable among adults.

No, wait, it would because society is willing to set 50% of people on fire rather than confront that the status quo is an aesthetic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 11:56:41pm

“This is Bob. He blocks the driveway & runs Sally off the sidewalk on her bicycle but daddy calls it a ‘hot thing’ and says that Bob has done ‘nothing wrong’. Regardless of what daddy says, Bob is a dick. Don’t be like Bob.”

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 2, 2020 • 12:16:37am

Disturbing and all too plausible explanation for Biden “shy voters”: They’re abused.

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Jack Burton  Nov 2, 2020 • 12:16:53am

re: #88 Sherlock Hound

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In a sane world, we’d laugh at someone who’s deep in debt with their gun collection. We wouldn’t write him up in the NYT as a poor economic victim.

$40,000? If they got them used and over 5 years old. Have you seen the prices of trucks lately. Especially fullsize ones? It’s like 70 grand for one fully loaded.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 2, 2020 • 12:26:49am

re: #97 Jack Burton

$40,000? If they got them used and over 5 years old. Have you seen the prices of trucks lately. Especially fullsize ones? It’s like 70 grand for one fully loaded.

Stonekettle met some Trump guy who was shit broke, but was in debt for $10,000, which hey spent on his little armory.

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ericblair  Nov 2, 2020 • 1:35:39am

Whatta shocker. Anyways, you don’t “apply for dual US-Russian citizenship”. If you apply for Russian citizenship as a US citizen, that’s all Russia’s business. If he wanted to renounce US citizenship, I believe he’d have to show up in person at an overseas US consulate to finalize it, which would present certain…difficulties for him. So that’s out.

It makes no sense to me why this would help Snowden with his family issues. You don’t get a pass on crimes committed on US soil if you’re a foreign citizen (duh). His kid is a US citizen by birth and a Russian resident. I assume he’s being forced to do it because Russia will not extradite its citizens to any other country no matter what the circumstances, and the timing of this is interesting from a political perspective.

Eddie, zhelayu tebe udachi v novom domye! Mudak.

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steve_davis  Nov 2, 2020 • 1:48:12am

re: #93 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

The repugs are afraid that once we have power, we’ll treat them the way they want to treat us.

and if i have anything to do with, we goddamned will.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 2, 2020 • 1:55:47am

re: #100 steve_davis

and if i have anything to do with, we goddamned will.

Eventually we will have to rebuild a national consensus. First, though, there should be
some constructive pain.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 2, 2020 • 1:56:35am

.

Ella Fitzgerald - It Don’t Mean a Thing (Live 1957)

..

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2020 • 1:58:40am

re: #92 Sherlock Hound

Beware this propaganda. It makes you into a child.

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This is Bob. He votes Republican.
This is Sally. She votes Democrat.
The only way the two remain friends after tomorrow is if Bob spends the next 4-8 years with his mouth sewed shut.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 1:58:44am

re: #93 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

The repugs are afraid that once we have power, we’ll treat them the way they want to treat us.

Remember Enoch “Rivers of Blood” Powell, the famous UK xenophobe?

“In this country in 15 or 20 years’ time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man”.

Because they can see things only in terms of one group dominating and oppressing the other.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 2, 2020 • 2:06:46am

re: #92 Sherlock Hound

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 2, 2020 • 2:09:09am

...

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 2, 2020 • 2:10:13am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 2, 2020 • 2:15:33am

re: #32 🌹UOJB!

😂 I’ve been saying that to Pat for decades now without the cussing. How is he still spewing nonsense?

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Ming5000  Nov 2, 2020 • 2:15:38am

re: #103 Targetpractice

This is Bob. He votes Republican.
This is Sally. She votes Democrat.
The only way the two remain friends after tomorrow is if Bob spends the next 4-8 years with his mouth sewed shut.

Word.
I am already getting the old “Oh! The so-called party of tolerance!” response when I push back at MAGAs.
The GOP has shown that there can be no comity, fair-play, bi-partisanship, norms, or sympathy to MAGA whining, in our ongoing relationship. Only the cold, hard, boot of political power must be brought to bear. Apparently a lot more is legally possible than I imagined.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 2, 2020 • 2:17:49am

re: #109 Ming5000

Word.
I am already getting the old “Oh! The so-called party of tolerance!” response when I push back at MAGAs.
The GOP has shown that there can be no comity, fair-play, bi-partisanship, norms, or sympathy to MAGA whining, in our ongoing relationship. Only the cold, hard, boot of political power must be brought to bear. Apparently a lot more is legally possible than I imagined.

Tolerance does not mean we tolerate hatred or intolerance from others. For their crimes against humanity and their blatant hatred and intolerance of people different from them, I will hold no quarter with the Trump-humpers. When I catch them whining about the Biden Administration, I hope I will finally have the courage to speak up and tell them to put a sock in it.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2020 • 2:27:16am

re: #105 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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I imagine the “peace deal” is that sorry sack of shit that Jared trying to sell the Palestinians on renouncing any future claims to their ancestral lands in exchange for Trump Tower Palestine.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2020 • 2:39:14am

re: #109 Ming5000

Word.
I am already getting the old “Oh! The so-called party of tolerance!” response when I push back at MAGAs.
The GOP has shown that there can be no comity, fair-play, bi-partisanship, norms, or sympathy to MAGA whining, in our ongoing relationship. Only the cold, hard, boot of political power must be brought to bear. Apparently a lot more is legally possible than I imagined.

Simple criteria:

- Have they ever found themselves supporting something Trump did/said/suggested because it made liberals “angry”?

- Have they excused anything illegal/unethical/immoral act by Trump with the words “Well yeah, but Obama…”?

- Have they ever responded to criticism about the above with “How’s your 401K”?

If they’ve done any of the above in the last 4 years, then you’ve already tolerated plenty from them, so feel free to tell them to kiss your ass.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2020 • 2:47:43am

re: #109 Ming5000

Word.
I am already getting the old “Oh! The so-called party of tolerance!” response when I push back at MAGAs.
The GOP has shown that there can be no comity, fair-play, bi-partisanship, norms, or sympathy to MAGA whining, in our ongoing relationship. Only the cold, hard, boot of political power must be brought to bear. Apparently a lot more is legally possible than I imagined.

It’s Karl Popper’s “Paradox of Tolerance” which is described thusly:

Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.

- Karl Popper, The Open Society and Its Enemies, 1945

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 2:49:05am

There must always be two sides and good people on each!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2020 • 3:10:15am

The future…..let me show you it!

Newly installed in downtown Ostrava (probably been there less than a couple of weeks - it wasn’t there in mid-October).

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A Mom Anon  Nov 2, 2020 • 3:47:29am

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

What are the prices like?

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 3:51:12am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2020 • 3:51:49am

re: #116 A Mom Anon

What are the prices like?

About $10.75 for a one gram bag.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 3:54:55am

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Nope.

thats the name: nope.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 3:55:40am

Three Chicks and a Dick

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:00:59am

re: #45 Belafon

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because he’s an incurious uneducated boob who doesn’t know the job or how any of this works.

stunningly unqualified for the position.
no change after 4 years in it

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:04:24am

re: #43 Belafon

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until they are all canvassed and counted the first time through there is no such thing as “stealing”.

the order the votes are counted is meaningless.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:06:40am

re: #31 🌹UOJB!

I just had a bowl of Cheerios for dinner. Ate it quick so I could get back on the phones. But I am glad that I phone banked 3 straight weekends. Now just working on a pot of decaf. Tired but hoping that I made a difference.

It was so fun talking to people all over the country yeah there were a bunch of Debbie Downers too but at least I tried with them!

you’ve done some yeomans work here
take a plaudit out of petty cash

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:07:16am

re: #121 dangerman

because he’s an incurious uneducated boob who doesn’t know the job or how any of this works.

stunningly unqualified for the position.
no change after 4 years in it

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This is what I think, as well. The fact that his advisers and the GOP in general, all of whom should know better, are going along with it is just proof that they are slaves to the cult of personality and/or so addicted to power that they will grasp at anything in order to retain it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:21:10am

re: #1 bratwurst

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Ming5000  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:22:41am

Dems need to operate under new rules: Push for what we want despite the lamentations of the MAGA crew and the weak, misplaced, sympathy from within.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:27:30am

re: #23 Sherlock Hound

Where’s my chair-throwing GIF?

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But if you don’t want to wear a mask and claim medical condition, they should just accept that? Got it.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:32:03am

re: #33 i(m)p(each)sos

I got in the car today and started driving. I ended up in Pennsylvania. (I needed a, long drive. It’s been a lot of stress.)

Pleasant surprise: get off 79 south of Erie, in some of the reddest counties in the state… and yes, there are some Trump signs (but not wall to wall). But there were Biden signs, too. Quite a few of them, and in deep red small towns like Meadville and especially Franklin. That’s oil country, going way back to the 19th century. There were NO Hillary signs there in 2016.

[snip]

Should have stopped by my place since you were in my neck of the woods.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:34:43am

re: #52 jaunte

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Fuck Libertarians. This isn’t a parliamentary system you idiots.

But whom are they talking votes from? I’d think trump more than Biden.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:39:26am

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The Below Average White Band.

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jeffreyw  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:41:12am

Kilroy

Good Morning!

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:42:42am

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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The Below Average White Supremacist Band

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Danack  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:44:39am

re: #15 jaunte

“For many, it’s a shared sense of grievance. They don’t get the respect they feel they deserve.”

That rings a bell for me. It’s the same behaviour as a lot of open source assholes when you don’t listen to their feedback, they get annoyed at not being listened to.

Does anyone have any more books on the psychology of grievance at a loss of respect.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:48:22am

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The Vichy Chicks

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:51:49am

re: #126 Ming5000

Dems need to operate under new rules: Push for what we want despite the lamentations of the MAGA crew and the weak, misplaced, sympathy from within.

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I don’t see Biden offering trump anything.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 4:59:20am

Do you thing shut off these people will not vote for trump? Not show up? Leave the to spot blank?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:04:20am
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Mike Lamb  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:04:41am

re: #74 I Would Prefer Not To

If trump fires Fauci, what is to stop the Dr. from going on all the networks and trashing trump? Also what would stop Biden from hiring him as an advisor to the transition team?

When trump loses I don’t think (actually I Know he doesn’t) care about the lame duck session. The more shit he creates, the easier it will be for democrats to change the rules in the Senate and promising to look into more trump crimes.

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Physician-patient privilege. Probably.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:05:33am

re: #136 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Trump could kick in their front door, shoot their dog, whack their grandma over the head with a nine-iron and rape their 12-year-old daughter in front of them.

And for them, it’d be the greatest day of their lives.

For Trump, it’d be Tuesday.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:08:13am

re: #128 Eventual Carrion

Should have stopped by my place since you were in my neck of the woods.

Dang! There should be an app for that!

“Lizard lives 4.6 miles that way ——>”

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:16:57am

re: #140 i(m)p(each)sos

Dang! There should be an app for that!

“Lizard lives 4.6 miles that way ——>”

Well I’m about 25 miles from Meadville, but close enough.

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A Cranky One  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:20:22am

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jeffreyw  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:21:12am

re: #110 Dopefish: Ever hopeful.

Tolerance does not mean we tolerate hatred or intolerance from others. For their crimes against humanity and their blatant hatred and intolerance of people different from them, I will hold no quarter with the Trump-humpers. When I catch them whining about the Biden Administration, I hope I will finally have the courage to speak up and tell them to put a sock in it.

Toleration is not an ideology, it is a tactic that enables a smooth, functioning society when a large enough proportion of the citizenry follow it. Similar to herd immunity, if large enough numbers are intolerant a functioning and peaceful society is impossible.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:21:45am
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Jay C  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:22:10am

re: #137 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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My building (in an fairly undistinguished residential/commercial area of Manhattan) had staff putting up “riot boards” over the glass street facade the other day: the management had sent an email to reassure the residents that “…. While we hope the election proceedings will be peaceful, we are being proactive in preparing the community for any potential civil unrest.”

Seems fairly unlikely in this neighborhood, but there we are…

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:25:52am

re: #140 i(m)p(each)sos

Dang! There should be an app for that!

“Lizard lives 4.6 miles that way ——>”

Make sure the app tells you to hide the valuables when I visit.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:26:53am

DAMN. Look at the very last frame.

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Nojay UK  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:28:38am

re: #147 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

DAMN. Look at the very last frame.

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2020 is just playing with us now, isn’t it?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:30:13am

re: #137 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Perfect soundtrack for that tweet.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:30:21am

re: #143 jeffreyw

Toleration is not an ideology, it is a tactic that enables a smooth, functioning society when a large enough proportion of the citizenry follow it. Similar to herd immunity, if large enough numbers are intolerant a functioning and peaceful society is impossible.

Tolerance isn’t a goal, it’s a tool. And no tool is right for every job.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:30:29am

re: #147 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

DAMN. Look at the very last frame.

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That fortuitously-place sculpture likely prevented a horrific tragedy.

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Jay C  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:30:59am

re: #147 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

DAMN. Look at the very last frame.

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What’s there? All I can get is the guy in the yellow vest turning his head.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:31:19am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:32:54am

re: #150 Belafon

Tolerance isn’t a goal, it’s a tool. And no tool is right for every job.

What gets me is how people think that “tolerant” Liberals are hypocrites if they don’t tolerate everything, including hate speech from bigots.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:39:20am
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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:43:06am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:43:10am

re: #155 dangerman

This also speaks to their political strength too. Biden knows he doesn’t need super big rallies to get his message out during the pandemic. Trump thinks attacking the most popular public servant in America is a good look yet we know he was trying to have it both ways by using Dr. Fauci’s image in an ad to imply that Dr. Fauci supports him. I’m sure when things cool down that Dr. Fauci will acknowledge that he voted for Biden he had for good reason wss quiet about it given these crazies.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:45:35am

Morning consult also has PA for biden by…enough

ARIZONA: Biden 48%, Trump 46%
FLORIDA: Biden 52%, Trump 45%
GEORGIA: Biden 49%, Trump 46%
MICHIGAN: Biden 52%, Trump 45%
NORTH CAROLINA: Biden 49%, Trump 48%
OHIO: Trump 49%, Biden 47%
PENNSYLVANIA: Biden 52%, Trump 43%
TEXAS: Biden 48%, Trump 48%
WISCONSIN: Biden 54%, Trump 41%

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mmmirele  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:48:39am

re: #96 Sherlock Hound

Disturbing and all too plausible explanation for Biden “shy voters”: They’re abused.

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Yeah, because of asshats like this guy. (I reported the tweet for interference with an election, but it’s still up. Thankfully, he’s being dragged.)

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NetworkKed  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:51:18am

re: #158 dangerman

Morning consult also has PA for biden by…enough

ARIZONA: Biden 48%, Trump 46%
FLORIDA: Biden 52%, Trump 45%
GEORGIA: Biden 49%, Trump 46%
MICHIGAN: Biden 52%, Trump 45%
NORTH CAROLINA: Biden 49%, Trump 48%
OHIO: Trump 49%, Biden 47%
PENNSYLVANIA: Biden 52%, Trump 43%
TEXAS: Biden 48%, Trump 48%
WISCONSIN: Biden 54%, Trump 41%

That’s a wild set of numbers. I tend to agree with the OH line, we could get lucky in a surge but it’s not really swingy anymore.

I also have always thought Morning Consult was R-leaning, at least a tick or two. Not hand-on-scales like Ras or whasstheirname, just balanced that way.

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:54:35am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:57:52am

re: #152 Jay C

What’s there? All I can get is the guy in the yellow vest turning his head.

a sculpture kept a train from going over a precipice.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:59:13am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 5:59:49am

re: #158 dangerman

Morning consult also has PA for biden by…enough

ARIZONA: Biden 48%, Trump 46%
FLORIDA: Biden 52%, Trump 45%
GEORGIA: Biden 49%, Trump 46%
MICHIGAN: Biden 52%, Trump 45%
NORTH CAROLINA: Biden 49%, Trump 48%
OHIO: Trump 49%, Biden 47%
PENNSYLVANIA: Biden 52%, Trump 43%
TEXAS: Biden 48%, Trump 48%
WISCONSIN: Biden 54%, Trump 41%

OOC, How many states have Republican Secretaries of State and what voting machines/software are they using?

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:01:33am

538 just updated their presidential forecast 5 minutes ago - changed the status to Biden being clearly favored to win the election.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:03:08am

Water boy has got to go.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:05:45am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:06:33am

re: #160 NetworkKed

If those numbers are accurate for FL, WI and PA - Trump is finished.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:12:59am

re: #156 dangerman

I have Biden by a 5-7 margin of victory in Pa. Not as big as Michigan or Wisconsin but steady enough.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:14:11am

re: #160 NetworkKed

That’s a wild set of numbers. I tend to agree with the OH line, we could get lucky in a surge but it’s not really swingy anymore.

I also have always thought Morning Consult was R-leaning, at least a tick or two. Not hand-on-scales like Ras or whasstheirname, just balanced that way.

I think Ohio can be won but I think it might eventually go the way of Missouri as a swing state.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:14:31am

re: #96 Sherlock Hound

Disturbing and all too plausible explanation for Biden “shy voters”: They’re abused.

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Yes that is what I heard in Texas AND other states as well.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:14:55am

re: #166 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Water boy has got to go.

Yeah I saw that this morning. God he’s so pathetic.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:15:20am

re: #164 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

OOC, How many states have Republican Secretaries of State and what voting machines/software are they using?

Not enough

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:21:26am

How’s Vigo County, IN going?

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:22:51am

Montana has also had more people vote early this year than in all of 2016: m.dailykos.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:24:23am

Can I hope they both lose?

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:26:35am

re: #176 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Can I hope they both lose?

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What? Jason Miller actually paid some child support to AJ Delgado?

I’m shocked!

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:26:49am

re: #176 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Can I hope they both lose?

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The child needs to grow up in the kind of environment that allows them to ultimately see how fucked up their parents are, and be able to move beyond them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:30:17am

If Biden can win PA and WI, is he pretty much a lock to take the whole thing?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:30:44am

re: #175 Belafon

Montana has also had more people vote early this year than in all of 2016: m.dailykos.com

Montana could be a surprise this year IMO. It was close for Obama in 2008 and Bullock being on the Ballot for Senate can’t hurt.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:31:35am

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

If Biden can win PA and WI, is he pretty much a lock to take the whole thing?

If he wins PA, WI, and MI, game over. But I think he can and will get more than that. I’m bullish on North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, and Arizona.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:33:25am

re: #178 Belafon

The child needs to grow up in the kind of environment that allows them to ultimately see how fucked up their parents are, and be able to move beyond them.

GLWT. Both parents are horrible people. They’ll wind up with a situation like Claudia Conway is in.

That child had no chance from inception.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:33:39am

re: #133 Danack

Does anyone have any more books on the psychology of grievance at a loss of respect.

Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right
amazon.com“…

“The celebrated sociologist Arlie Hochschild left Berkeley and went far outside her comfort zone to live among and report on Tea Party members in Louisiana over five years. With the clear-headed empathy she is famous for, she explored the central paradox of these political activists in the heart of ‘cancer alley’: they understand that the chemical and oil companies have destroyed their environment and sometimes their lives, but they remain ardent defenders of free market capitalism. Hochschild spent many hours—at church services, picnics and kitchen tables—probing the ways they struggle to reconcile their conflicting interests and loyalties. There could not be a more important topic in current American politics, nor a better person to dissect it. Every page—every story and individual—is fascinating, and the emerging analysis is revelatory.”
—Barbara Ehrenreich

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:34:07am

We have Trump’s wall here at work. In the cafeteria, they have put plastic up around the area where the TV is.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:34:26am

People obsess over Trump’s crowd size but your average Biden supporter/voter knows he or she can get Biden’s message pretty easily if they want to. Likewise Biden who we know likes talking with voters understands that. I think that’s why Biden has played off the “he’s in his basement” with so much ease. I can tell he wishes he were still out there making the rounds and talking with tons of people but he’s not egotistical enough that he has to have mass gatherings of support.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:36:25am

I was just talking to my son. Two of his friends from high school, who grew up in Republican households, voted for Biden. One of them knows for sure her dad voted for Trump. This is in Texas.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:36:39am
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jaunte  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:39:43am

re: #184 Belafon

Are they worried protestors are going to attack the tv?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:40:28am
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jaunte  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:41:04am

re: #187 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Trump rallies not helping Trump supporters feel respected.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:41:25am

re: #189 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Trump will say he won it at by 11 PM. Guaranteed.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:41:30am

re: #189 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m ready for that. I’ll pull an all nighter if I have to tomorrow night.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:42:08am

re: #190 jaunte

Trump rallies not helping Trump supporters feel respected.

It’s almost Stockholm Syndrome with these people. He treats them like trash again and again but…they keep coming back.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:42:22am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:43:05am

I really want to see Trumps head explode when everyone starts celebrating the fact that he lost.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:43:43am

re: #188 jaunte

Are they worried protestors are going to attack the tv?

They run fox a lot, except when the news is bad for him.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:44:18am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe a massive “sunk cost fallacy” at work. At this point, too big an admission to say you were wrong.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:44:32am

re: #195 Eclectic Cyborg

I really want to see Trumps head explode when everyone starts celebrating the fact that he lost.

Not just here but around the world.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:45:13am

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

What gets me is how people think that “tolerant” Liberals are hypocrites if they don’t tolerate everything, including hate speech from bigots.

If someone tries that garbage argument, tell them you do not tolerate bigotry, and ask what their position is on tolerating or not tolerating bigotry.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:45:15am

re: #194 jaunte

They are the Malfoy’s of politics.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:47:51am

re: #185 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

People obsess over Trump’s crowd size but your average Biden supporter/voter knows he or she can get Biden’s message pretty easily if they want to. Likewise Biden who we know likes talking with voters understands that. I think that’s why Biden has played off the “he’s in his basement” with so much ease. I can tell he wishes he were still out there making the rounds and talking with tons of people but he’s not egotistical enough that he has to have mass gatherings of support.

Biden knows how to campaign
And knows how to be president

Trump throws spaghetti at the wall

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mmmirele  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:48:39am

I don’t think this got posted, but it’s about a deep a dive as you’re going to see into the sleaziness that is Jerry Falwell Jr. and Liberty University. And it appears that Jr’s ability to keep a lid on things took a nosedive after he spent more time with Donald Trump.

Hint: Just because Donald Trump can get away with killing 230,000 people from COVID-19 doesn’t mean that Jerry Falwell Jr. can get away with being a sexual libertine in Lynchburg, Va.

‘They All Got Careless’: How Falwell Kept His Grip on Liberty Amid Sexual ‘Games,’ Self-Dealing

The deposed university president secured backing by ousting critics and hiring the family members and businesses of loyalists.

*snip*

When Trump began floating a potential bid for president in 2015, Falwell again started to speak favorably of Trump. It was around that time, six former Liberty faculty and officials told POLITICO, that Falwell’s behavior began to change. He became more outspoken. He grabbed national headlines by telling Liberty students in the wake of the mass shooting by a radical Muslim couple at a social-services center in San Bernardino, California, that more people should have concealed carry permits to “end those Muslims before they walked in.”

politico.com

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:48:55am

re: #187 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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That’s what happens when the host doesn’t pay the bus company

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:50:02am

re: #192 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m ready for that. I’ll pull an all nighter if I have to tomorrow night.

I will not waste any lost sleep over a trump “pronouncement”

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Jay C  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:51:02am

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

If Biden can win PA and WI, is he pretty much a lock to take the whole thing?

Almost, but not quite, IMO.
I think he will need to win at least one more of the double-digit-EV states (??OH? NC? FL? GA?) to make it a “lock”.
For me, the “lock” number is actually 161 or 172: Since the (D) ticket is so highly favored in the Western states, depending on how optimistic one is about Arizona, there are either 98 or 109 EVs pretty much a given for Joe/Kamala; so once they win (or are seen to win, or are expected to win, etc.) 161-172 in the East/Midwest, it’s likely to be “Game Over” for Team Trump.

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Jay C  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:52:21am

re: #201 dangerman
Minor edit:

Biden knows how to campaign
And knows how to be president

Trump throws spaghetti shit at the wall

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:52:46am

re: #187 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Did Tracey blame Maxine Waters for the end of the rally bus fuckup?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:53:51am

re: #201 dangerman

Biden knows how to campaign
And knows how to be president

Trump throws spaghetti at the wall

Not just his experience as Biden’s VP but his Senate career too. Four of the six elections he ran in were also presidential election years- 1972, 1984, 1996, and 2008. I don’t think anyone will compare Biden to Obama as a speaker ever but he speaks language that we can all understand and I think that is Biden’s underrated strength as a speaker and campaigner. Delaware may be among our smallest states but it’s actually pretty diverse compared to other small states.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:54:10am

re: #204 dangerman

I will not waste any lost sleep over a trump “pronouncement”

I’m not gonna worry about that either. Trump says a lot of bullshit.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:55:38am
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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:55:44am

re: #206 Jay C

Minor edit:

Fair point
I’m a classy guy //
I was sticking with the metaphor

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:56:07am
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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:57:15am

re: #208 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Not just his experience as Biden’s VP but his Senate career too. Four of the six elections he ran in were also presidential election years- 1972, 1984, 1996, and 2008. I don’t think anyone will compare Biden to Obama as a speaker ever but he speaks language that we can all understand and I think that is Biden’s underrated strength as a speaker and campaigner. Delaware may be among our smallest states but it’s actually pretty diverse compared to other small states.

Yeah that’s what I meant
40+ years campaigning compared to mr fake-it

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:58:31am
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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:58:36am

re: #210 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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60% of Karens know exactly what “Karen” means and know it doesn’t apply to them.

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Egregious Philbin  Nov 2, 2020 • 6:58:43am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

Its pure cult thinking. If Biden wins, its gonna be 5 stages of grief time, but a very long time for some to reach (if ever) the last stage.

We are voting to hopefully legalize marijuana here, legal or not, I plan to be high AF tomorrow night….

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:00:39am

re: #185 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

People obsess over Trump’s crowd size but your average Biden supporter/voter knows he or she can get Biden’s message pretty easily if they want to. Likewise Biden who we know likes talking with voters understands that. I think that’s why Biden has played off the “he’s in his basement” with so much ease. I can tell he wishes he were still out there making the rounds and talking with tons of people but he’s not egotistical enough that he has to have mass gatherings of support.

Biden is also not a psychopath who doesn’t care if his rallies kill people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:12:43am

re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump will say he won it at by 11 PM. Guaranteed.

as soon as west coast polls close, he will call it for himself and insist that any changes are the result of fraud

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:13:12am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:14:51am

re: #212 Belafon

“You could not possibly be positioned more poorly,” Dr. Anthony Fauci said of the state of the pandemic in the U.S. as the country heads into winter.

Most of Europe is shutting down for a month, so things should be down a bit for the Xmas season, but between Thanksgiving and maskophobia, America will have soaring death rates and overloaded ICU’s just in time for the Holidays…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:14:52am

re: #213 dangerman

Yeah that’s what I meant
40+ years campaigning compared to mr fake-it

Oh yeah I know.

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A Cranky One  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:16:25am

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:16:28am

re: #217 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Biden is also not a psychopath who doesn’t care if his rallies kill people.

Exactly. I’m sure if we weren’t in the pandemic that he would be drawing crowds. Kamala is a rockstar and Joe’s happy to share the stage with her and other Democrats. That’s what I admire about Biden. He knows we’re not just voting for him.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:17:14am

I don’t get that last bit. At all.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:17:22am

re: #213 dangerman

Yeah that’s what I meant
40+ years campaigning compared to mr fake-it

One of the right wing memes going around is “If it took a mechanic 37 years to fix your car, you’d be angry” to which I responded, “If it takes 538 mechanics to fix your car, it’s not the mechanics that are the problem. It’s a stupid analogy.”

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gocart mozart  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:17:53am
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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:18:44am

re: #224 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I don’t get that last bit. At all.

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I think that’s supposed to be the mascot from the Cricket Wireless ads, but without watching the video, I don’t get the context.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:18:58am

re: #225 Belafon

If half the mechanics spent their time sabotaging all progress on the car repair, it would take a long time to fix.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:21:22am
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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:21:37am

re: #45 Belafon

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The scary bit is that the GOP base and Trump cultists don’t think any differently. They’ve gone full metal alt-reality, where Fox is fact and PDB is bogus.

It’s how we get to the scenario where Dr. Fauci - the most respected public health expert and epidemiologist we have in the US - is shut out from pandemic response while a know nothing hack Atlas is whispering sweet nothings in Trump’s ear because he’s touting herd mentality to avoid masking/social distancing mandates that would actually slow the spread of covid19, save lives, and help restart the economy.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:23:12am

re: #229 jaunte

Look at the people in that picture. Every pixel screams counterfeit.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:23:15am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

as soon as west coast polls close, he will call it for himself and insist that any changes are the result of fraud

It is the statement of an idiot
His not yours

It’s not how any of it works
Him repeating it ad nauseum won’t make it so or even a legitimate argument
Nor will “taking it to court” to “resolve”

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Jay C  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:23:31am

re: #226 gocart mozart

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Interesting that Ocasio-Cortez (a sitting Representative) subheads her Twitter as “US House candidate, NY-14”
Subtle touch of humility for the home-district: she is one smart campaigner (not hard: AOC is WAY smart, in general).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:25:13am

re: #232 dangerman

It is the statement of an idiot
His not yours

It’s not how any of it works
Him repeating it ad nauseum won’t make it so or even a legitimate argument
Nor will “taking it to court” to “resolve”

of course. but he has nothing to lose

this is a first in US history: an incumbent who knows he is facing criminal charges as soon as he loses immunity.

one who knows he cannot win the popular vote or even the EC in a free and fair election

a criminal aided by terrorist and criminal organizations

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:25:35am

re: #225 Belafon

One of the right wing memes going around is “If it took a mechanic 37 years to fix your car, you’d be angry” to which I responded, “If it takes 538 mechanics to fix your car, it’s not the mechanics that are the problem. It’s a stupid analogy.”

These just aren’t very bright people…

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garzooma  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:26:07am

Speaking of not tolerating intolerance:

This after mobs of Turkish fascists threatened Armenians in two French towns:

Hundreds of Turkish ultranationalists have marched through the streets of two French towns, chanting threats against Armenians, as tensions over the war in Nagorno-Karabakh boiled over.

A French anti-racism group and an organization representing France’s Armenian community said what they called the “hunt for Armenians” was orchestrated by the Grey Wolves, a militant Turkish ultranationalist group which is active in Western Europe and banned in a number of countries, including Austria.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:26:20am

re: #231 jaunte

Look at the people in that picture. Every pixel screams counterfeit.

Two of those AI generated people and one poorly maintained Hoggle puppet left over from Labyrinth.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:26:25am

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:26:59am

re: #233 Jay C

Interesting that Ocasio-Cortez (a sitting Representative) subheads her Twitter as “US House candidate, NY-14”
Subtle touch of humility for the home-district: she is one smart campaigner (not hard: AOC is WAY smart, in general).

I like her but I think a lot of Congressmembers have one Twitter account for their campaign and another for their official capacity as House members. I’m seeing it with Connolly here.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:28:11am

re: #233 Jay C

Interesting that Ocasio-Cortez (a sitting Representative) subheads her Twitter as “US House candidate, NY-14”
Subtle touch of humility for the home-district: she is one smart campaigner (not hard: AOC is WAY smart, in general).

I’ve seen it on every House candidate I’ve paid attention to.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:28:26am

re: #233 Jay C

Interesting that Ocasio-Cortez (a sitting Representative) subheads her Twitter as “US House candidate, NY-14”
Subtle touch of humility for the home-district: she is one smart campaigner (not hard: AOC is WAY smart, in general).

I just started wondering who she was running against. From the NY Times

[AOC’s] Republican challenger, John Cummings, a 60-year-old former schoolteacher at St. Raymond High School for Boys in the Bronx and a former officer for the New York Police Department, has collected $9.6 million in his first bid for office.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:29:33am

re: #236 garzooma

The Grey Wolves are an extremist organization and frankly, they should’ve been banned a long time ago.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:29:52am

re: #240 Belafon

I’ve seen it on every House candidate I’ve paid attention to.

Yeah. I think it makes sense. Kind of how I use one email address for things like fantasy football and another for job applications.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:31:03am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I just started wondering who she was running against. From the NY Times

[AOC’s] Republican challenger, John Cummings, a 60-year-old former schoolteacher at St. Raymond High School for Boys in the Bronx and a former officer for the New York Police Department, has collected $9.6 million in his first bid for office.

What a waste of fucking money that is but even that’s small potatoes compared to Kim Klacik running in Baltimore for Cummings’ old district.

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Nojay UK  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:33:25am

re: #233 Jay C

Interesting that Ocasio-Cortez (a sitting Representative) subheads her Twitter as “US House candidate, NY-14”

In the UK when a writ of dissolution for a General Election is passed in the House of Commons all the sitting MPs become immediately unemployed. They no longer represent their constituency and stop getting paid and there’s no redundancy payments or other benefits for them (I believe there is a pension scheme if they intend to retire). It helps for them that the time between the writ and the time when they hope to be re-elected is usually four or five weeks, not two years or more. Every election though has more than a few sitting MPs tossed out on their ear and, in extremis, claiming unemployment benefit afterwards.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:33:54am

re: #227 Belafon

I think that’s supposed to be the mascot from the Cricket Wireless ads, but without watching the video, I don’t get the context.

It’s just there for a few frames at the end of the video. They’re is literally no context. Maybe it’s something relevant to Latinos?

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:34:25am

This is some wild crap in Russia. Russian oligarch, who was known as the Sausage King, found dead from a crossbow wound in a sauna.

Vladimir Marugov and his partner were in an outdoor sauna when they were attacked, reportedly by two masked assailants.

The woman managed to escape through the window and call the police.

Detectives found the body of Mr Marugov, who owned some of Russia’s largest meat-processing plants, in the sauna with a crossbow next to it.

The attack happened at Mr Marugov’s countryside estate, about 40km (25 miles) outside the capital, Moscow, early on Monday morning, Russia’s Investigative Committee (similar to the FBI in the US) reported.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:35:44am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I just started wondering who she was running against. From the NY Times

[AOC’s] Republican challenger, John Cummings…. has collected $9.6 million in his first bid for office.

Sounds like a grift opportunity.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:35:52am

re: #247 lawhawk

This is some wild crap in Russia. Russian oligarch, who was known as the Sausage King, found dead from a crossbow wound in a sauna.

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Vladdy the Gent Conway cleaning up after Lufthansa err Election interference?

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garzooma  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:36:43am

re: #247 lawhawk

This is some wild crap in Russia. Russian oligarch, who was known as the Sausage King, found dead from a crossbow wound in a sauna.

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Heh, this was a good line:

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:37:13am

re: #247 lawhawk

Well, someone got medieval on Marugov’s ass, that’s for sure.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:37:54am

re: #249 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Cue Layla.

Goodfellas - Layla Scene - HD;

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:38:58am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:39:26am

re: #247 lawhawk

This is some wild crap in Russia. Russian oligarch, who was known as the Sausage King, found dead from a crossbow wound in a sauna.

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Was it ruled suicide?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:40:10am

I realize that this is a function of circulation of media filtering out the normal stuff from other countries, but Russia really looks like Floridastan.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:40:32am

re: #254 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Was it ruled suicide?

No, a quarrel…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:41:11am

re: #254 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Was it ruled suicide?

Kolbassault and battery

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:41:15am

You cannot make this shit up. No one would believe it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:43:54am
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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:44:15am

re: #256 Kilroy was here

No, a quarrel…

Zing! Pow!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:44:36am

re: #245 Nojay UK

In the UK when a writ of dissolution for a General Election is passed in the House of Commons all the sitting MPs become immediately unemployed. They no longer represent their constituency and stop getting paid and there’s no redundancy payments or other benefits for them (I believe there is a pension scheme if they intend to retire). It helps for them that the time between the writ and the time when they hope to be re-elected is usually four or five weeks, not two years or more. Every election though has more than a few sitting MPs tossed out on their ear and, in extremis, claiming unemployment benefit afterwards.

Bingo. I hate the long drawn out elections in this country.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:48:04am

re: #259 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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MyPillow guy at HHS, Eddie Gallagher at DOD, & Jared at Treasury because why not.

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:48:04am

re: #246 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s just there for a few frames at the end of the video. They’re is literally no context. Maybe it’s something relevant to Latinos?

Maybe they transferred the ad onto a video tape where that clip was already there.

I know, ‘video tape’ - but some outfits may still actually be using it.

I know back in the day when I was in college radio we’d re-use broadcast cartridges and record over old stuff.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:49:25am

re: #187 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Can we throw Tracey into the please die pile?

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:49:38am

re: #258 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Trump outsourced his propaganda to foreign sources. It’s no wonder they’re using stock footage from Russia, Ukraine, and elsewhere - that’s who Trump has backing his campaign.

And Trump stiffs American businesses because that’s how he’s always operated. The latest bussing fiasco was because Trump didn’t pay his fucking bills for bussing his supporters in/out of yet another venue.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:50:15am

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

In Czech Republic, the new Parliament is seated the day after the vote totals are finalized and certified. Here, voting is done on Fridays and Saturdays, with the results known by Sunday afternoon - thus, the newly-elected (or re-elected) Members of Parliament are seated on Monday.

Bada bing!

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:51:46am

re: #264 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Can we throw Tracey into the please die pile?

He’s been brain dead ever since Mama Maxine whacked him.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:51:55am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

In Czech Republic, the new Parliament is seated the day after the vote totals are finalized and certified. Here, voting is done on Fridays and Saturdays, with the results known by Sunday afternoon - thus, the newly-elected (or re-elected) Members of Parliament are seated on Monday.

Bada bing!

I do think our longer transition period is partly because of our size. That said yeah I wish the actual campaign was shorter.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:55:17am
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John Hughes  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:55:39am

re: #134 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The Vichy Chicks

A winna! We have a winna!

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:56:39am

re: #253 The Pie Overlord!

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The story is not “false”. It happened.
There’s video, They admitted it.

The FBI is determining whether/what laws were broken

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:56:48am

A lot of Dicks are voting for Trump

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:57:13am

re: #229 jaunte

In which the current President of the United States has his iPhone irresponsibly turned on for every intelligence agency in the world to analyze.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:58:37am

re: #265 lawhawk

Trump outsourced his propaganda to foreign sources. It’s no wonder they’re using stock footage from Russia, Ukraine, and elsewhere - that’s who Trump has backing his campaign.

And Trump stiffs American businesses because that’s how he’s always operated. The latest bussing fiasco was because Trump didn’t pay his fucking bills for bussing his supporters in/out of yet another venue.

Bus company showed more stones than a lot of mayors and governors

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:58:46am
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Nojay UK  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:59:05am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

In Czech Republic, the new Parliament is seated the day after the vote totals are finalized and certified. Here, voting is done on Fridays and Saturdays, with the results known by Sunday afternoon

What takes you so long? UK polls, held on a Thursday for no appreciable reason, close at 10:00 p.m. and counting starts as soon as the ballot boxes arrive at the “count” where they are traditionally sorted and tallied by bank clerks. Almost all results will be declared by 5:00 a.m. Friday at the latest, most of them are done and dusted by 3:00 a.m. There’s normally a race between some constituencies to declare first, the fastest usually come in a bit after 11:00 p.m. Note that all Parliamentary constituencies are about the same size, absent a few geographical special cases like the Orkney and Shetland isles so the number of votes to be counted in each case is similar, there’s no Dixville Notch or the like.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:59:24am

re: #259 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Pirro as AG would be literally be Ted Nugent as Sec of Defense.

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John Hughes  Nov 2, 2020 • 7:59:54am

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

That fortuitously-place sculpture likely prevented a horrific tragedy.

And people ask what is the point of art.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:01:48am

If We Are Going to Recover from Trumpism, We Must Deny Charity to Trump’s Henchmen

Americans tend to be forgiving of our former officials. George W. Bush, whose Administration lied to the world in order to start a war, created a prison camp where people could be indefinitely detained, and instituted torture, has easily recast himself as a decent former President. People who devised his Administration’s criminal policies continue to have a voice in American politics. This history of automatically granting respect to people who have been close to power is what has continued to propel both Taylor’s career and his evident assumption that he is entitled to public trust. If we are going to recover from Trumpism, whenever the post-Trump era begins, this is one tradition that will have to be broken. Denying charity and, more important, respect to Taylor, whom we now know to be an architect of criminal and cruel policies as well as a liar, would be a good place to start.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:02:09am

re: #184 Belafon

We have Trump’s wall here at work. In the cafeteria, they have put plastic up around the area where the TV is.

Throwing bricks at TV’s was a lot more fun in the old days of CRT’s. A bar in New York had a weekly raffle where you could win a brick to throw at the TV when Howard Cosell was on Monday Night Football. (The bar would get their TV’s for each week from yard sales and such.)

Flatpanel TV’s aren’t as satisfying to smash, but I could still make bank for a chance to throw a brick at every appearance of Trump onscreen!

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John Hughes  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:05:01am

re: #176 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If he’s not following court orders why is he not in prison?

(I mean, apart from the whole poisoning thing).

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A hollow voice says,1st Round on points. Onward!  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:07:30am

re: #131 jeffreyw

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Good Morning!

Western good morning!

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:10:11am

NYPD is prepping for election night/next day mayhem with the outcome - though I wonder that this is going to actually encourage violence and rioting as police use excessive force to stop whatever they deem to be a protest from occurring.

All we’ve seen to date is right wing domestic terrorists carrying out acts of violence against Democrats; engaging in violence and acts of intimidation such as bridge/road closures, which can have deadly consequences for those needing to be transported for health/safety reasons, etc.

Trump’s campaign manager is a bridge troll who did Christie’s bridgegate retaliation against Fort Lee for the mayor not backing Christie. So of course Trumpists see themselves as road warriors like Immortan Joe who can do whatever they please - right down to the witness me bits… it’s performative and it’s terrorism.

And Trump and GOP bear full responsibility for all of it - for inciting to violence and for carrying out the violence itself.

Oh, and Trump’s building yet another fence around the WH ahead of election day - to keep himself from seeing the people that boot Trump from *their* house, and because he’s going to be sitting in the bunker like a little bitch wondering how he can stay in office to avoid prosecutions that are only delayed while he’s in the WH.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:11:09am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:12:24am

re: #281 John Hughes

If he’s not following court orders why is he not in prison?

(I mean, apart from the whole poisoning thing).

They never pay a price. They’re all above the law.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:13:10am

re: #284 lawhawk

I can’t wait until Trump loses and his Twitter feed is banned for TOS violations.

That should read “POS violations”.

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John Hughes  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:15:03am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s almost Stockholm Syndrome with these people. He treats them like trash again and again but…they keep coming back.

Just your regular reminder that “Stockholm Syndrome” doesn’t exist, it was invented by a male psychiatrist to explain why a woman hostage was more worried by the over aggressive, incompetent, behaviour of the police than her kidnappers.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:15:15am

re: #283 lawhawk

If I could, I would encourage all of the Biden supporters to stay home and celebrate. I know it would feel good to be with others, but I think Trump’s hope is that a lot of people celebrate, and a bunch of Trumpers attack them, and he can blame the attacks on the wrong people. It won’t change the outcome, but he can rant about it.

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John Hughes  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:18:30am

re: #210 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Apparently Dicks vote for Trump. Whoda thought it.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:18:52am

re: #255 The Ghost of a Flea

I realize that this is a function of circulation of media filtering out the normal stuff from other countries, but Russia really looks like Floridastan.

Dashcam videos. There was, or still is, a famous Russian LiveJournal page with dashcam videos. One is struck by the tags, like “All Of A Sudden”, “China Is Always Fucked” and “Last Seconds of Life” that describe their video clips.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:20:09am

Just paged this, because I think we could all use just a little humor, now that we are ONE DAY AWAY from ending this four-year nightmare.

Future generations will be amazed at how stupid Americans were to keep swallowing these lies …

Sometimes, I am astounded at the sheer gullibility and willful stupidity of Trump supporters. How can anyone with a brain more advanced than a 4-year-old actually BELIEVE that any of this ever happened?

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Kilroy was here  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:20:28am

America the Beautiful

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:20:40am

re: #258 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They made a pro-military ad with a picture of a Russian ship, so…

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:21:03am

re: #284 lawhawk

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Special carve out
Ex-presidents like presidents
In the public interest (ie as long as he brings in the $)

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:22:39am

A sampling:

They were going, that was not a good night for certain people. Remember the couple of people that were crying? I guess they don’t like a strong military. They don’t like cutting regulations. They don’t like low taxes. They don’t like Right to Try, you know Right to Try. All these things we’ve done. For the Vets, we got choice. We got choice for the Vets. Choice. Everybody said it was impossible. We’ve rebuilt our military. I told this story for the first time today. A general came into my office in my first few weeks, you remember? It was a little dangerous out there. President Obama left us with a few beauties, right? And I said to this general, “You better be prepared, because this is looking like it could really be conflict.” And he looked at me and he goes, “Sir, we have very little ammunition.” I said, “Say it again.” And I want to tell you the words, very little, he didn’t use because it was less than that.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:23:24am

re: #288 Belafon

If I could, I would encourage all of the Biden supporters to stay home and celebrate. I know it would feel good to be with others, but I think Trump’s hope is that a lot of people celebrate, and a bunch of Trumpers attack them, and he can blame the attacks on the wrong people. It won’t change the outcome, but he can rant about it.

And more importantly, people will get hurt.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:25:40am

re: #287 John Hughes

Just your regular reminder that “Stockholm Syndrome” doesn’t exist, it was invented by a male psychiatrist to explain why a woman hostage was more worried by the over aggressive, incompetent, behaviour of the police than her kidnappers.

Yes, I am aware of the history. I was using the term to reference the general concept.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:29:41am

Hmmmm…when Dixville Notch and Hart’s Landing declare their vote counts just after Midnight tonight will Trump demand the vote counting stop if he wins those two OR will he throw a Twitter fit saying the counts are rigged if Joe wins them?

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piratedan  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:29:45am

re: #275 The Ghost of a Flea

isn’t it funny how the Trumpees were aware of the bus route and the campaign events and managed to somehow throw up a response to their arrival and yet somehow the local Law Enforcement wasn’t?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:31:37am

re: #283 lawhawk

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:32:44am

re: #288 Belafon

If I could, I would encourage all of the Biden supporters to stay home and celebrate. I know it would feel good to be with others, but I think Trump’s hope is that a lot of people celebrate, and a bunch of Trumpers attack them, and he can blame the attacks on the wrong people. It won’t change the outcome, but he can rant about it.

Can’t be blamed for shit if you weren’t there

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:32:46am

re: #299 🌹UOJB!

Hmmmm…when Dixville Notch and Hart’s Landing declare their vote counts just after Midnight tonight will Trump demand the vote counting stop if he wins those two OR will he throw a Twitter fit saying the counts are rigged if Joe wins them?

I’m telling ya, Joe - he’s gonna be all about stopping the counts until Joe pulls into the lead, and then he’ll turn on a dime and demand that every vote be counted.

And his brain-dead cult followers will turn right with him. It’s gonna happen.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:33:43am

re: #299 🌹UOJB!

Hmmmm…when Dixville Notch and Hart’s Landing declare their vote counts just after Midnight tonight will Trump demand the vote counting stop if he wins those two OR will he throw a Twitter fit saying the counts are rigged if Joe wins them?

We are in the presence of greatness
You win.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:35:59am

re: #301 Patricia Kayden

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People walking around open carry, the police just assume they all have the legal right to do so, that all the weapons are legal etc

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:37:25am

re: #303 makeitstop

I’m telling ya, Joe - he’s gonna be all about stopping the counts until Joe pulls into the lead, and then he’ll turn on a dime and demand that every vote be counted.

And his brain-dead cult followers will turn right with him. It’s gonna happen.

It’s an idiotic argument and I can’t wait till one of his lawyer teams tries to make it to a judge

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:38:21am

Marc Elias is an American hero. Full stop.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:39:32am

re: #303 makeitstop

I’m telling ya, Joe - he’s gonna be all about stopping the counts until Joe pulls into the lead, and then he’ll turn on a dime and demand that every vote be counted.

And his brain-dead cult followers will turn right with him. It’s gonna happen.

OR he will say that his votes are being suppressed and demand that his Moron Militia takes to the streets.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:40:30am

re: #303 makeitstop

I’m telling ya, Joe - he’s gonna be all about stopping the counts until Joe pulls into the lead, and then he’ll turn on a dime and demand that every vote be counted.

And his brain-dead cult followers will turn right with him. It’s gonna happen.

Have to say as annoying as 2000 was, I’m ready for this because of that and we’ve experienced tough races wins and losses here in Va. I remember some college friends telling me that we just missed beating a guy named Cuccinelli in the state senate in 2007. I also remember the Deeds-McDonnell AG race which probably is why McDonnell did so well in 2009 which was really the last hurrah the GOP had statewide here.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:40:59am

re: #306 dangerman

It’s an idiotic argument and I can’t wait till one of his lawyer teams tries to make it to a judge

Biden’s got better lawyers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:41:35am

re: #310 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Biden’s got better lawyers.

Yes, because he pays them in full and on time.

Funny that.

/

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:42:37am

re: #311 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, because he pays them in full and on time.

Funny that.

/

I wish I could be a paralegal on one of these teams but I haven’t worked in law in two years.

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Teukka  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:43:12am

Say what you will about Vaush, but I feel this need to be said:

QAnon isn’t Anti-P*dophilia. In Fact, it’s Making Things Worse.

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A hollow voice says,1st Round on points. Onward!  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:44:52am

re: #254 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Was it ruled suicide?

Why are we assuming Putin had something to do with this? Is there some evidence in the article (which I didn’t read)? He doesn’t need a bleeding crossbow. On the other hand, someone with a personal grudge (e.g. death by spoiled meat) might not have another weapon.

Please note, I am not defending Putin here, I am warning against jumping to conclusions — a slippery slope that leads to Fox News addiction and other calamities.)

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:46:43am

re: #305 dangerman

People walking around open carry, the police just assume they all have the legal right to do so, that all the weapons are legal etc

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White people.

FTFY.

If a group of black people did what these white folks did, they’d be treated as terrorists by the so called law and order types (in right wing echo chamber land and law enforcement).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:46:47am

re: #314 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Why are we assuming Putin had something to do with this? Is there some evidence in the article (which I didn’t read)? He doesn’t need a bleeding crossbow. On the other hand, someone with a personal grudge (e.g. death by spoiled meat) might not have another weapon.

Please note, I am not defending Putin here, I am warning against jumping to conclusions — a slippery slope that leads to Fox News addiction and other calamities.)

I worked with a lot of folks who were graduates of the Moscow Meat and Dairy Institute (a very prestigious school)…need to ask around if they know what he was up to.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:47:33am

re: #314 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Why are we assuming Putin had something to do with this? Is there some evidence in the article (which I didn’t read)? He doesn’t need a bleeding crossbow. On the other hand, someone with a personal grudge (e.g. death by spoiled meat) might not have another weapon.

Please note, I am not defending Putin here, I am warning against jumping to conclusions — a slippery slope that leads to Fox News addiction and other calamities.)

I mean, he does have a track record of “disappearing” people.

For the record, I’m not confident this is his doing, but I wouldn’t discount the possibility.

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:50:08am

re: #301 Patricia Kayden

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On that same note, WaPo has a really good deep dive into the Michigan kidnap plotters’ activities at rallies etc.

Alleged Michigan plotters attended multiple anti-lockdown protests, photos and videos show

washingtonpost.com

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:50:27am
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ericblair  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:51:41am

re: #317 Eclectic Cyborg

I mean, he does have a track record of “disappearing” people.

For the record, I’m not confident this is his doing, but I wouldn’t discount the possibility.

There are all sorts of feuds going on between oligarchs. It really is an oligarchy, not a monarchy, and Putin sure seems to have less control over what happens in Russia and abroad than most people think (disturbingly so).

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A hollow voice says,1st Round on points. Onward!  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:53:22am

re: #288 Belafon

If I could, I would encourage all of the Biden supporters to stay home and celebrate. I know it would feel good to be with others, but I think Trump’s hope is that a lot of people celebrate, and a bunch of Trumpers attack them, and he can blame the attacks on the wrong people. It won’t change the outcome, but he can rant about it.

Can we all say covid? No election parties around here — unless you count zoom meetings.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:54:10am

re: #314 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Why are we assuming Putin had something to do with this? Is there some evidence in the article (which I didn’t read)? He doesn’t need a bleeding crossbow. On the other hand, someone with a personal grudge (e.g. death by spoiled meat) might not have another weapon.

Please note, I am not defending Putin here, I am warning against jumping to conclusions — a slippery slope that leads to Fox News addiction and other calamities.)

I was joking.

But really, would it be a leap (from a high window)?

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A hollow voice says,1st Round on points. Onward!  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:56:30am

re: #317 Eclectic Cyborg

I mean, he does have a track record of “disappearing” people.

For the record, I’m not confident this is his doing, but I wouldn’t discount the possibility.

And I said nothing about discounting the possibility. For the record.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 8:59:07am

re: #321 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Can we all say covid? No election parties around here — unless you count zoom meetings.

I’m staying home for sure.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:01:58am

Llre: #322 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I was joking.

But really, would it be a leap (from a high window)?

I was honestly joking given my Goodfellas reference. I just know Putin has been consolidating power and oligarchs even his allies sometimes get caught up in that. That said. I don’t know one way or the other.

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stpaulbear  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:04:18am

re: #324 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m staying home for sure.

I’m leaning towards staying off-line completely tomorrow evening. We’ll know very little for sure and the cable news stations are going to have to fill all those hours with endless speculation and sensationalism.

Fox will declare Trump the winner at 8:01 Eastern Time.

If Tuesday night turns into happy happy fun time, I can catch all of the best clips on Wednesday.

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:04:50am

Not sure if this has been posted—538’s When To Expect Election Results In Every State
A complete guide to poll closing times, vote counting and races to watch on election night 2020

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Note—not sure about other states, but they’re way off on South Carolina with this line:

A relatively small share of South Carolina voters will cast absentee ballots

As of October 31 (per state info)
Absentee ballots returned—1,251,000
Absentee ballots 2016—503,000

(Total 2016 votes—2,123,584)

And I heard that the lines this morning are really long.

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ericblair  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:05:01am
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dangerman  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:05:49am

re: #326 stpaulbear

I’m leaning towards staying off-line completely tomorrow evening. We’ll know very little for sure and the cable news stations are going to have to fill all those hours with endless speculation and sensationalism.

Fox will declare Trump the winner at 8:01 Eastern Time.

If Tuesday night turns into happy happy fun time, I can catch all of the best clips on Wednesday.

Good night’s sleep
Champagne with breakfast

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:09:06am

re: #311 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, because he pays them in full and on time.

Funny that.

/

Keep in mind that although Trump doesn’t pay his contractors, ALEC most certainly does and they are already working overtime to undermine any result that will have Trump losing.

Also let’s note the coordinated spate of Trump Trains interfering with roadways in several states — is this a preview of what awaits us tomorrow? Or will there be police and truckers working together to attack voting sites in minority communities?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:13:05am

Biden in Cleveland. I’m bullish on Ohio. Yes Trump won it big in 2016 but it’s one Obama and Biden two twice with a higher percentage of the PV.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:15:36am

Thank you John King and Julie Pace from AP for pointing out that it’s normal not to have all the votes counted on Election Night.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:15:37am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:17:11am

re: #333 The Pie Overlord!

Election Day Eve and he’s still raging against Clinton. He has no message folks.

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KGxvi  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:18:59am

re: #333 The Pie Overlord!

“Hillary was a criminal. She deleted her emails,” Trump says, prompting (another) “lock her up!” chant

And yet, after 4 years and like 18 AGs, you haven’t been able to get anyone to file any charges against her… funny that

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:19:21am

Look who’s back! It’s Snow J. Simpson!

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:20:01am

re: #334 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Election Day Eve and he’s still raging against Clinton. He has no message folks.

Doesn’t matter because his brainwashed marks are lapping the bullshit up. Even after he’s stiffed them 3X with the busses they will still beg to kiss his ass.

OOOOOO THAT SPELLCHECK ON THE IPHONE PISSING ME OFF…

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:20:53am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:20:57am

re: #326 stpaulbear

I’m leaning towards staying off-line completely tomorrow evening. We’ll know very little for sure and the cable news stations are going to have to fill all those hours with endless speculation and sensationalism.

Fox will declare Trump the winner at 8:01 Eastern Time.

If Tuesday night turns into happy happy fun time, I can catch all of the best clips on Wednesday.

My plans are the same — hiding in the bunker Tuesday night with no contact with the outside world (except possibly for friends who may text me). I still haven’t recovered from the trauma of the November 8, 2016 election party I attended.

The Fox “hard” News anchors and their pollsters are serious about retaining credibility. They aren’t going to be declaring a winner unless they are confident. Of course that doesn’t apply to their evening all-stars who will be following whatever line Trump is promoting.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:21:17am

re: #337 🌹UOJB!

Doesn’t matter because his brainwashed makes are lapping the bullshit up. Even after he’s stiffed them 3X with the busses they will still beg to kiss his ass.

He got 46% of the vote last time. Who does this help him gain support with? Even Hoover got a floor of 40% of the PV after the stock market crashed.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:21:48am

re: #335 KGxvi

And yet, after 4 years and like 18 AGs, you haven’t been able to get anyone to file any charges against her… funny that

Exactly

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A hollow voice says,1st Round on points. Onward!  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:21:52am

re: #326 stpaulbear

I’m leaning towards staying off-line completely tomorrow evening. We’ll know very little for sure and the cable news stations are going to have to fill all those hours with endless speculation and sensationalism.

Fox will declare Trump the winner at 8:01 Eastern Time.

If Tuesday night turns into happy happy fun time, I can catch all of the best clips on Wednesday.

That’s been my policy for about fifteen years. I used to go to a movie to avoid the temptation to look at the news. Not an option now, unfortunately, but I have shelves of dvds to choose from.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:22:08am

re: #336 Sherlock Hound

Look who’s back! It’s Snow J. Simpson!

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It’s so sad that what Big John is saying is reflected in the calls I did to Pennsylvania during the past 3 weekends.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:25:08am

Guys I get 2016 PTSD I do. I really do. But ask yourself who this gains with? No one on the fence would rather hear Trump bitch about the Clintons than talk about stopping the spread of Covid and recovering economically. Yeah Trump has a hardcore bloc and they’re not going away but they’re shrinking not growing.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:25:50am

re: #328 ericblair

I would love to know the number of his white fans that didn’t see that coming.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:26:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:28:51am

re: #344 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Guys I get 2016 PTSD I do. I really do. But ask yourself who this gains with? No one on the fence would rather hear Trump bitch about the Clintons than talk about stopping the spread of Covid and recovering economically. Yeah Trump has a hardcore bloc and they’re not going away but they’re shrinking not growing.

Trump could count on indifference and apathy. And he attracted a lot of protest voters willing to give him a chance.

No more apathy or indifference and most of those who chose to give him a chance have had plenty of time to see what he has “delivered”…

His only chances now are using underhanded and illegal methods to invalidate the outcome of the vote count.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:29:23am

re: #345 KGxvi

Yes, Biden is getting out worked in Pennsylvania… except for the part where three times as many Democrats have cast early ballots as compared to Republicans. And the fact that Biden has been over 50% in polling pretty consistently for a month.

Good old Thurgood Partial…He’s getting wrecked in the thread, too. I’m not surprised. Shaun can pass for white, so the Nazis are OK with him. For a while.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:29:30am

re: #328 ericblair

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F Eminem, I want to know what Milli Vanilli have to say (or whomever is talking for them now).

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:29:55am

re: #345 KGxvi

Yes, Biden is getting out worked in Pennsylvania… except for the part where three times as many Democrats have cast early ballots as compared to Republicans. And the fact that Biden has been over 50% in polling pretty consistently for a month.

Howard Fineman, who is from PA, on Joe this morning said that Biden’s campaign is cautiously optimistic because they have carefully played the two sides of the state and the counties surrounding Pittsburgh and Philly (he didn’t say it, but implied that they’ve left the rural center to Trump).

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Kilroy was here  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:30:32am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:30:41am
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stpaulbear  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:32:18am

re: #329 dangerman

Good night’s sleep
Champagne with breakfast

I don’t think it will be a good night’s sleep. I’ll try to listen to some appropriate music that night, maybe watch a movie, but it’s still going to be an anxiety filled night. Hopefully it won’t be an anxiety filled next four years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:32:23am

re: #353 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The day before the election and as the pandemic death toll goes over 230,000, Trump complains about Fox News polls showing him behind Biden and runs through the list of Fox News hosts he likes - Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, etc.

He talks about what he knows well and it touches the hearts of his supporters…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:33:29am

re: #348 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump could count on indifference and apathy. And he attracted a lot of protest voters willing to give him a chance.

No more apathy or indifference and most of those who chose to give him a chance have had plenty of time to see what he has “delivered”…

His only chances now are using underhanded and illegal methods to invalidate the outcome of the vote count.

Right and I don’t see the courts siding with him. I don’t trust right wing judges either but it goes against all precedent to just ask the states to stop counting on election night. And Trump’s lawyers bs has been thwarted by the courts before.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:34:18am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:34:46am

re: #334 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Election Day Eve and he’s still raging against Clinton. He has no message folks.

He does have a message…as does the whole GOP these days…but it’s not the specific words: the words, the names, the claims don’t matter, they’re interchangeable; what remains consistent is the base assumption that what is materially true is less important than emotional timbre—the collective feel of indignation, contempt, and glee at the license to hurt those they feel hurt by. The cruelty is the point, but the cruelty is premised upon an intoxicating unreality.

The central tenet of modern conservatism is that all problems emanate from a cabal of depraved individuals that hold a damning collective responsibility and deserve no franchise, nor even basic human rights. Even when conservatives hold all the power and exercise that power freely, their failures are actually the result of conspiracy by that cabal. When elite conservatives enact policy that harms their own voting base, it is especially the fault of the cabal.

Donald Trump is ultimately a narcissist who can never let go of grudges and will endless repeat scripts to sustain his ego, but it just so happens that his audience, having been raised with the aforementioned central tenet, are almost perfectly in rhythm with him.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:34:56am

re: #340 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He got 46% of the vote last time. Who does this help him gain support with? Even Hoover got a floor of 40% of the PV after the stock market crashed.

There were some “conservatives” who didn’t support him because they thought he wasn’t really conservative. But after implanting all those fanatic judges for lifetime appointments, he has earned his creds and they are now fully on the Trump train. For example, Erick Erickson and Ben Shapiro. This may be a small number — but it could add to his count. Again, how he could garner all this support given his responsibility for 230,000+ American deaths is beyond understanding, but then cult members are incapable of independent thought.

This past weekend, our brother repeated all his favorites: Biden is senile and going to be 25th Amendmented within a month of taking office, Biden is totally corrupt but the MSM is refusing to report on it and it’s only the lonely warriors at Fox News who are bravely informing the public, better pull your money out of the market because you will lose everything if Biden wins, etc. etc.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:35:01am

You know Trump is going to keep doing these Nazi rallies even when he isn’t President anymore, right?

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:36:14am

re: #357 The Pie Overlord!

Because his voters either like his mocking, or don’t care.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:36:29am

re: #351 Barefoot Grin

Howard Fineman, who is from PA, on Joe this morning said that Biden’s campaign is cautiously optimistic because they have carefully played the two sides of the state and the counties surrounding Pittsburgh and Philly (he didn’t say it, but implied that they’ve left the rural center to Trump).

He’s also gone after the lesser known upper corners. The NE where he’s from in Scranton but also the NW where Erie is. PA will be a steady but not as large win as MI and WI. There are a lot of especially in the rural center places that are long time Republican areas but if Joe can GOTV in the corners and cut Trump’s margins in the center, Pa comes home.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:36:30am

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

You know Trump is going to keep doing these Nazi rallies even when he isn’t President anymore, right?

They will be really tiny if he does.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:37:07am

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

You know Trump is going to keep doing these Nazi rallies even when he isn’t President anymore, right?

Of course he will - he’s gotta feed that adulation addiction.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:37:13am

re: #359 Hecuba’s daughter

I am 99.9999999963% sure Erick Erickson and Ben Shapiro voted for him in 2016.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:37:17am

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

You know Trump is going to keep doing these Nazi rallies even when he isn’t President anymore, right?

I think when he loses he will start Trump TV network.

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A Cranky One  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:37:42am

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

You know Trump is going to keep doing these Nazi rallies even when he isn’t President anymore, right?

He may want to, but he won’t be able to afford to.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:39:02am

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

You know Trump is going to keep doing these Nazi rallies even when he isn’t President anymore, right?

Yup. And we can mock him for his infantile behavior and then ignore him.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:39:50am

re: #365 Belafon

I am 99.9999999963% sure Erick Erickson and Ben Shapiro voted for him in 2016.

You’re right — I took their statements at face value. I can be really gullible. They certainly have denied it publicly, but then they are total liars.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:40:00am

re: #357 The Pie Overlord!

As long as I live, I will never understand why this was not the end of it.

That was when I realized how much the media wanted Trump as a candidate because he was a big ratings draw.

They gave him a pass on things that would derailed the campaign or even the career of any professional politician because different rules apply to a reality TV star who offers them a 24/7 stream of outrageous tweets, speeches, financial and sex scandals, along with gaffes and blunders that cannot be topped for their ratings potential .

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b.d.  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:40:42am

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

You know Trump is going to keep doing these Nazi rallies even when he isn’t President anymore, right?

The only difference will be that he’ll be charging admission.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:41:16am

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

You know Trump is going to keep doing these Nazi rallies even when he isn’t President anymore, right?

Not for long after Tish James drags his fat ass into court.

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:41:23am

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

You know Trump is going to keep doing these Nazi rallies even when he isn’t President anymore, right?

Not if he has to pay for them.

Remember, he’s been doing all of this shit on our dime. If he has to pony up, he’ll just stay home and tweet between rounds of golf.

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NetworkKed  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:41:28am

re: #354 stpaulbear

I don’t think it will be a good night’s sleep. I’ll try to listen to some appropriate music that night, maybe watch a movie, but it’s still going to be an anxiety filled night. Hopefully it won’t be an anxiety filled next four years.

I’ve been distracting myself by putting together streaming to Twitch and a linked Youtube account. I’ll never be a “creator” type, but it does focus me on something besides worrying.

But tomorrow, I have to watch. I can’t not. (Though these software tools are interesting and I might try putting together a long-form video of what happens, if it’s a happy ending.)

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:44:20am

re: #373 makeitstop

Not if he has to pay for them.

Remember, he’s been doing all of this shit on our dime. If he has to pony up, he’ll just stay home and tweet between rounds of golf.

That’s a good point. If he actually has to pay for it all, he’d probably rather go hit the links at Mar-a-Lago and bitch endlessly on Twitter.

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stpaulbear  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:44:34am

re: #366 The Pie Overlord!

I think when he loses he will start Trump TV network.

I agree that’s what he’ll want to do and it’ll probably happen. I’m wondering if it might just fizzle out within a year due to lack of any redeeming content. People are sick of 24/7 Trump now. 24/7 loser Trump will get old really fast.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:44:53am

And here’s today’s episode of STUPID TREK!

rawstory.com

Kirk Cameron: Public health and social justice are a ‘disguised’ communist Halloween plot

Evangelical Christian actor Kirk Cameron on Monday asserted that social justice and public health are both part of a communist plot to undermine America.

Cameron made the comments on Fox News after he was asked to provide his analysis of the 2020 election.

“I can tell you that as I travel the country and teach in churches, I’m seeing a couple things that are just astounding,” the actor explained. “The enthusiasm level for people going out and rallying for a presidential election is unbelievable. Ninety-six mile car train, 30,000 vehicles, 58,000 people in Pennsylvania. Regardless of the side of the aisle you’re on, this enthusiasm level is unprecedented.”

“Secondly of all, I see people of faith waking up to the scary idea that socialism and communism are knocking on our doors this Halloween season,” he added. “And they’re disguised in the costumes of public health and social justice.”

Oh right wing Je$u$ makes you really really really stupid!

TAX THE CHURCHES!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:45:34am

re: #376 stpaulbear

I agree that’s what he’ll want to do and it’ll probably happen. I’m wondering if it might just fizzle out within a year due to lack of any redeeming content. People are sick of 24/7 Trump now. 24/7 loser Trump will get old really fast.

I doubt it’d take an Herculean effort for him to turn OANN into TrumpTV.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:45:39am

re: #371 b.d.

The only difference will be that he’ll be charging admission.

Except as long as the pandemic reigns, if he’s not president, more states would likely bar these rallies for violating local health ordinances. He’s not likely going to be attracting such a large audience when his lies about coronavirus are no longer broadcast by MSM.

380
plansbandc  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:46:06am

re: #357 The Pie Overlord!

Always.

381
A Cranky One  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:47:47am

Dogs reaction to possibly getting covid.

Dog’s epic reaction to owner after coughing😂😂😂

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:48:04am

Here’s what I expect, since I experience it with Cruz and Beto. Both Republicans and Democrats will see increased votes. The Democrats because they want to fix things, and a lot of Republicans because they know more Democrats are showing up. The advantage in the increase in turnout will go to the Democrats. This means that races that should have been easily won by Republicans will be a lot closer, and those that are close will end up with Democrats. Apply this at all levels. I expect there to be shenanigans, but they won’t really affect the outcomes.

383
The Pie Overlord!  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:48:57am
384
Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:49:38am

re: #383 The Pie Overlord!

Snowflake.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:50:31am

re: #383 The Pie Overlord!

“What a horrible thing that they’ve done … I’m going to start getting into it, because they’re hurting our country very badly” — Trump on SCOTUS ruling that some ballots can be tallied after election day

there is going to be unrest, he is just asking for it

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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:50:33am

re: #64 Jebediah, RBG

I always get happy when I see your nym above a bunch of text. (f’real - no sarcasm!)

Agreed - you are a hell of a writer

387
Eventual Carrion  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:51:28am

re: #381 A Cranky One

Dogs reaction to possibly getting covid.

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Video

Virus side-eye

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:52:45am

re: #301 Patricia Kayden

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The COVID-created financial crises for cities has caused them to cut back on overtime for cops. These cops had been in Tall Clover before this - unlimited budgets under Trump and his fascist enablers.

But now the cops are suddenly in financial trouble, leading to cases like this with the LA Sheriff’s:

A citizen informant calls the police to report a vehicle which was on fire in a field adjacent to his residence. Arson investigators respond and determine the vehicle is owned by a deputy who has only been out on patrol for 14 months.
When they contacted the deputy, they were informed the vehicle must have been stolen from the deputy’s residence. The next day, the deputy filed a claim with his insurance company. Arson investigators for the Department later determined the fire was caused intentionally by applying an open flame to vapors of an ignitable liquid that was poured into the vehicle. A few months later, the deputy became a suspect because an expert hired by his insurance company tested the vehicle’s ignition and determined the car could not be driven without a transponder key due to an anti-theft system which had been installed in the vehicle. Investigators thereafter secured a search warrant for the deputy’s cell phone records and determined he had been in the area where the vehicle was abandoned and torched, rather than at his father’s home in another city where he had previously told investigators he was during the relevant time period. In addition to the three vehicles he owned, the deputy had a home with a substantial mortgage and three credit cards overdue.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:54:00am

Elections have consequences, part 53:

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Semper Fi  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:55:42am

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

You know Trump is going to keep doing these Nazi rallies even when he isn’t President anymore, right?

I’m hoping he will be in the slammer. It might be good for him. Look what it did for Paul Manafort. Manafort may have added a few years to his life by shaping-up.
Trump, without his usual Big Macs, could shape right up. He’d have to lose the hairpiece though. I don’t think prison would allow it.
Day before election my imagination runs wild.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:57:32am

Wonder why the brain-dead DC Press Corpse hasn’t brought up making sure soldier votes aren’t discarded if they come in past tomorrow even though they are postmarked by the 3rd?

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:58:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2020 • 9:58:56am

re: #389 Sherlock Hound

Elections have consequences, part 53:

I hope the next elections will not be overshadowed by a pandemic and we can return to more “normal” voting, although early voting should be expanded along with additional polling places.

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KGxvi  Nov 2, 2020 • 10:01:42am

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

You know Trump is going to keep doing these Nazi rallies even when he isn’t President anymore, right?

He’ll try, but I’m guessing that as the Not President, he won’t be able to get waivers on crowd sizes from local authorities, and having lost to Joe Biden, he’ll be so diminished in the eyes of his followers that a lot of them will start pretending that they never really supported him, or it was just about tax cuts or whatever other bullshit they want to tell themselves as to why the racism and misogyny and incompetence weren’t deal breakers.

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A hollow voice says,1st Round on points. Onward!  Nov 2, 2020 • 10:13:09am

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

You know Trump is going to keep doing these Nazi rallies even when he isn’t President anymore, right?

He won’t be able to afford them.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 2, 2020 • 3:17:01pm

re: #390 Semper Fi

I’m hoping he will be in the slammer. It might be good for him. Look what it did for Paul Manafort. Manafort may have added a few years to his life by shaping-up.
Trump, without his usual Big Macs, could shape right up. He’d have to lose the hairpiece though. I don’t think prison would allow it.
Day before election my imagination runs wild.

Trump in the slammer without hairpiece, make-up, and in an ill-fitting orange jumpsuit will look pretty pathetic. Not to mention his attitude since he won’t have a cellphone, access to Twitter, and will not be surrounded by guards who are required to be deferential to him.


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