WATCH LIVE: House Investigation of Jan. 6 Attack Begins With Police Testimony

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The House select committee appointed to investigate the violent insurrection that occurred Jan. 6 at the U.S. Capitol begins its hearings on Tuesday, July 27.

Members of the Metropolitan Police Department and U.S. Capitol Police are expected to testify about the violence and fear they experienced that day, and how the attack has continued to affect them long after.

The storming of the Capitol, which killed at least five people, took place as Congress was in the process of certifying the Electoral College results of the 2020 election for President Joe Biden. Earlier that day, at a rally on the National Mall, then-President Donald Trump repeated false claims of voter fraud and a stolen election as he urged crowds protesting the results of the election to walk down to the Capitol to take a stand against “this egregious assault on our democracy,” also calling on then-Vice President Mike Pence to reject the election results. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has promised the committee, led by Mississippi Democrat Rep. Bennie Thompson, will “get to the truth” of what happened that day. Republicans, who have been wary of crossing Trump, have criticized the process. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy recently withdrew the names of five GOP appointees after Pelosi rejected the participation of two of them.

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1
Rightwingconspirator  Jul 27, 2021 • 8:55:47am

May the truth win out. It was an insurrection.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 27, 2021 • 8:56:50am

Just a reminder that Ali Alexander still evades arrest.

Is that because Andy Biggs is helping him?

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:00:15am

from downstairs, this could be problematic

i mentioned it yesterday

a committee member must be a house member AND has to be a member of the Democratic caucus or the Republican conference.

if the house R’s get savvy and boot Cheney/Kinzinger out of the conference, then they would lose their 1/6 committee seats

sure, they could then join the Dem caucus. They dont have to register dem to do this - but the optics would be miserable going forward..

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:02:29am

re: #3 Dangerman

from downstairs, this could be problematic

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i mentioned it yesterday

a committee member must be a house member AND has to be a member of the Democratic caucus or the Republican conference.

if the house R’s get savvy and boot Cheney/Kinzinger out of the conference, then they would lose their 1/6 committee seats

sure, they could then join the Dem caucus. They dont have to register dem to do this - but the optics would be miserable going forward..

“We’re caucusing with the Democrats for the length of this commission. We feel we have a duty higher than standing on the same side of the aisle as those that supported the insurrection and refuse to prevent it from happening again.”

Any damage that is going to be done to them has been done by accepting being on this committee. Getting thrown out by the rest of their party isn’t going to change that.

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Teukka  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:03:16am

HEADS UP Lizardim!
There appears to be a concerted effort in several countries, making claims that CoViD tests are not being performed, with allegations that it exaggerates the number of CoViD cases among unvaccinated.

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:12:09am

re: #4 Belafon

“We’re caucusing with the Democrats for the length of this commission. We feel we have a duty higher than standing on the same side of the aisle as those that supported the insurrection and refuse to prevent it from happening again.”

Any damage that is going to be done to them has been done by accepting being on this committee. Getting thrown out by the rest of their party isn’t going to change that.

you’re right on both counts, for sane people.
though it would make their reelection attempts even harder than they already are now. (i only care that someone worse takes a seat)

it also then becomes an all democratic committee and that will be flogged to death.
it’s harder now with literal republicans - though then we start hair splitting between registered and in the conference republicans. everyone would be shouting RINO all over the place..

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:14:15am

DA FUQ
They literally described the PHYSICAL BEATINGS.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:16:34am

Kinzinger.

Just listen.

Youtube Video

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:22:42am

Fox is broadcasting the hearings like real news networks are doing. But neither OANN nor Newsmax are showing this, to retain the ignorance of their viewers. Of course Fox, NBC, etc also have other channels that they can use for broadcasting their regular programming.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:25:33am

Here we go, film fans. Ghostbusters: Afterlife official trailer…

GHOSTBUSTERS: AFTERLIFE - Official Trailer

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:27:55am

Liz Cheney talks a good game about loving America, but she should really check in with “The Base” of the modern Trump Party about what they really feel:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:33:01am

re: #10 Dr Lizardo

Here we go, film fans. Ghostbusters: Afterlife official trailer…

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Video

Man, I can’t wait. It’s like a friend you haven’t seen in 20 years finally coming by again.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:35:00am

I’m watching this about 45 minutes behind what’s happening live, but this is one of the most heart wrenching thing I’ve ever watched. I’m so glad that this is proceeding in a somber and respectable manner. I’m watching this on The Guardian with no talking heads, and I may continue to avoid MSM coverage as much as possible.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:35:26am

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

Liz Cheney talks a good game about loving America, but she should really check in with “The Base” of the modern Trump Party about what they really feel:

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Cheney is getting advice from dad Darth Cheney. She is hoping to be the last Republican standing and the restoration of the traditional neo-con anti-Putin warmonger base of the GOP. They are evil too — but at least in this one instance, they are supporting democracy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:36:42am

re: #14 Hecuba’s daughter

Cheney is getting advice from dad Darth Cheney. She is hoping to be the last Republican standing and the restoration of the traditional neo-con anti-Putin warmonger base of the GOP. They are evil too — but at least in this one instance, they are supporting democracy.

Because they know that with the current GOP base, no nation can be ruled by Good or Evil

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:37:41am

re: #13 stpaulbear

I’m watching this about 45 minutes behind what’s happening live, but this is one of the most heart wrenching thing I’ve ever watched. I’m so glad that this is proceeding in a somber and respectable manner. I’m watching this on The Guardian with no talking heads, and I may continue to avoid MSM coverage as much as possible.

D.C. Metropolitan Police Officer Michael Fanone said he was repeatedly tased as rioters chanted “kill him with his own gun,” and that doctors told him he suffered a heart attack during the riot, diagnosing him with a concussion, a traumatic brain injury and PTSD.

Slamming the table in a moment of rage, Fanone said “the indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful,” declaring that the lawmakers who “continue to deny the events of that day” have “betrayed their oath of office.”

D.C. police officer Daniel Hodges, who was seen on video having his gas mask yanked off while wedged in a door, recalled how rioters, who he called “terrorists,” repeatedly tried to recruit him, with another saying, “you will die on your knees.”

Hodges rebutted GOP claims the rioters did not carry guns, telling the committee “multiple gun arrests” were made between Jan. 5 and 7, but adding “we will never know how many were carrying firearms” because of the limited arrests made at the Capitol.

Capitol Police officer Harry Dunn, who is Black, said he faced a “torrent of racial epithets,” including roughly 20 rioters calling him a “f****** n*****,” an experience he said other Black officers shared as well.

But … but … Trump said they were totes peaceful & giving out “kisses and hugs”

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danarchy  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:37:46am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, I can’t wait. It’s like a friend you haven’t seen in 20 years finally coming by again.

It looks better than the last attempt to revive ghostbusters, but I have never been a big fan of “plucky kids save the world” sort of movies.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:37:50am

re: #7 The Pie Overlord!

You knew it was going to happen. All the officers opening testimony caused them pause and yes, a few tears. So fucking what? I would be far more worried about someone who felt nothing except maybe happy there was violence and wanted more. Like the assholes tweeting how weak these brave men were that day.

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:38:55am

re: #10 Dr Lizardo

I do hope it is as much a comedy as the original two movies rather than the drama the trailer seems to be trying for.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:39:18am

re: #17 danarchy

It looks better than the last attempt to revive ghostbusters, but I have never been a big fan of “plucky kids save the world” sort of movies.

It won’t just be the kids. Aykroyd, Hudson and Murray are all in it and it’s confirmed they put on the equipment again at some point, so it looks like it will be at least a team effort.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:41:52am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:42:22am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, I can’t wait. It’s like a friend you haven’t seen in 20 years finally coming by again.

Yeah, same here.

Bill Murray Dan Ackroyd saying, “We’re closed” at the end? *chef’s kiss*

and possibly big spoiler, via speculation on my part:

I’m pretty sure that’s supposed to be Gozer the Gozerian at 1:48

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:43:09am

re: #21 No Malarkey!

I’m thinking about how unprecedented it is that @GOPLeader is boycotting the investigation of a terrorist attack on the Capitol, in order to protect the terrorists’ leader. We haven’t seen this level of treason in our political leaders since the Civil War.

and it is no coincidence that Lost Cause Revisionism is at a high point lately…

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:43:44am

When I am dictator, there will be draconian and probably counterproductive rules about how many sequels, prequels, remakes, reboots, “reimaginings”, and other rehashings any particular movie or other source material can have.

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:43:53am

Sgt. Gonell

“People who had the “Thin Blue Line” on their chests, turning against us. And then they accusing us of being traitors. When I was in Iraq, the sense of camaraderies … we all knew what we were fighting for. There were times that yes, I was scared. During my supply missions when we would possible be ambushed or getting shot at.

“I will say this over and over, it was our own citizens attacking us.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:44:48am

re: #19 William Lewis

I do hope it is as much a comedy as the original two movies rather than the drama the trailer seems to be trying for.

Same. I’m hoping they kept the good jokes out of the trailer for obvious reasons.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:45:09am

re: #13 stpaulbear

I’m watching this about 45 minutes behind what’s happening live, but this is one of the most heart wrenching thing I’ve ever watched. I’m so glad that this is proceeding in a somber and respectable manner. I’m watching this on The Guardian with no talking heads, and I may continue to avoid MSM coverage as much as possible.

So far the MSM is broadcasting the hearings live, with no appearance or interference by their anchors. Except— they aren’t showing it on their broadcast networks, but their affiliated cable news networks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:46:15am

re: #22 Dr Lizardo

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:47:32am

re: #14 Hecuba’s daughter

Cheney is getting advice from dad Darth Cheney. She is hoping to be the last Republican standing and the restoration of the traditional neo-con anti-Putin warmonger base of the GOP. They are evil too — but at least in this one instance, they are supporting democracy.

I think the Cheney’s political acumen is overrated. He helped engineer a near complete collapse of the GOP in 2008. Liz Cheney’s political career is essentially over; the GOP base will never forgive her betrayal of dear leader. These people nurse their grievances like they were newborn babies.

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:47:59am

“It’s disgraceful that members of our government were responsible for inciting that behavior. Police officers who risked their lives were called traitors. To me those individuals are representative of the worst that America has to offer.”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:49:03am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:49:09am

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

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danarchy  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:50:40am

re: #22 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, same here.

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Bill Murray saying, “We’re closed” at the end? *chef’s kiss*

I thought that was Aykroyd

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:51:08am

re: #19 William Lewis

I do hope it is as much a comedy as the original two movies rather than the drama the trailer seems to be trying for.

The trailer included miniature Stay-Puft marshmallow men that gave me hope that it will be akin to the original, instead of something serious like Poltergeist.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:51:09am

re: #33 danarchy

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Yeah, realized that.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:52:05am

Note the date.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:52:39am

re: #16 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

But … but … Trump said they were totes peaceful & giving out “kisses and hugs”

Sgt. Gonell said that we should all go to Trump’s house and shower him with the kind of “kisses and hugs” that they had experienced. Next time he spoke, he made sure to walk that back. He didn’t want people to go to Trump’s house. So glad Jordan wasn’t there.

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:53:24am

WHOA

Sgt. Fanone just called the Trump rioters “TERRORISTS”

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:54:27am

re: #13 stpaulbear

I’m watching this about 45 minutes behind what’s happening live, but this is one of the most heart wrenching thing I’ve ever watched. I’m so glad that this is proceeding in a somber and respectable manner. I’m watching this on The Guardian with no talking heads, and I may continue to avoid MSM coverage as much as possible.

No talking heads on CNN either.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:55:14am
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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:56:14am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

I don’t recall a Capitol attack in 2017. Did he just make that up?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:56:28am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:57:25am

re: #41 No Malarkey!

I don’t recall a Capitol attack in 2017. Did he just make that up?

I think he was talking about the protests that happened not long after Trump took office. Because the RWNJs think the Insurrection terrorists were just “tourists” or “protesters”.

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:57:35am

“It’s not a secret that it was political. They were literally there to “stop the steal.” It was political. There’s no getting around that.

“Everything is different but nothing has changed.”

“Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are being lauded as heroes. Why? Because they told the truth? Well, in today’s America that is heroism.”

“What I ask is what happens with a hitman. A hitman is hired and kills someone. Not only does the hitman go to jail, but the person who hired him does.”

IF I’M TRUMP OR ROGER STONE OR TED CRUZ I’M SHITTING MY PANTS RIGHT NOW

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:57:41am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:57:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:58:37am

re: #40 The Pie Overlord!

Imagine the nerve of the Left criminalizing criminal behavior. What sort of democratic nation are we if a few patriots can’t do a little low-level rioting in the Capitol while Congress is in session?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:59:07am

re: #41 No Malarkey!

I don’t recall a Capitol attack in 2017. Did he just make that up?

Yes. No attack on the Capitol but there were protests in DC.

cnn.com

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 9:59:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:00:02am
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danarchy  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:00:54am

re: #41 No Malarkey!

I don’t recall a Capitol attack in 2017. Did he just make that up?

Probably referring to the inauguration protests.

cnn.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:01:02am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:01:04am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:01:15am

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:01:38am

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

The intersection between the testimony of officers today with the history of America reminds everyone that history is important, and the efforts to distort the violent and racist historical facts about America come from those who are part of the efforts to dismantle democracy.

More like resetting American Democracy back to a time when power was distributed less equally. Namely, among whites.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:02:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:03:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:04:57am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:05:13am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

What 2017 riot??? Liar cannot distinguish between a legitimate protest and a violent attack.

re: #40 The Pie Overlord!

Another despicable liar who promotes the Trump lie of a stolen election. Not a single current Trump supporter is a decent person.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:07:32am
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:10:27am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOL

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:13:02am

Don’t exactly know WTF is going on here, but this looks wildly interesting….

Lamb | Official Trailer HD | A24

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:13:35am

Do you think Pelosi would consider trying to subpoena Trump to appear before the committee?

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:13:36am

HEADLINE CONTEST: How will Beltway Press frame this terrorist attack on America as something that Democrats actually bear responsibility for?

“Dems contempt for real Americans true motivating force behind Capitol riots on Jan. 6”

Opinion: “Yes, the testimony from the weary, battered cops was emotional, but really, isn’t this all just empty theater to distract from Biden’s private email server?”

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plansbandc  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:16:00am

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:19:48am
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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:20:18am

re: #64 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

HEADLINE CONTEST: How will Beltway Press frame this terrorist attack on America as something that Democrats actually bear responsibility for?

“Dems contempt for real Americans true motivating force behind Capitol riots on Jan. 6”

Opinion: “Yes, the testimony from the weary, battered cops was emotional, but really, isn’t this all just empty theater to distract from Biden’s private email server?”

Yesterday an MSNBC reporter said that the committee hearing was going to be a
“spectacle” when, in reality, the committee hearing was going to be the most focused and organized room in DC.

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Teukka  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:20:18am

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’d at least give the kid some points for a classy answer :D

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:22:05am

They insist on parallels with the BLM protests of the previous summer.

Granted, there was violence and as I recall, there were officers summoned to deal with it who made arrests ON THE SPOT.

On the other hand, many of these people were protesting peacefully and in public where they were fully within their rights to do so.

But the people who stormed the Capitol were in violation of the law for simply being there, whether they were violent or destructive or not and NOT A SINGLE ONE was arrested or charged that day.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:22:12am

re: #66 No Malarkey!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:22:14am

THE INTOLERANT LEFT SHUTS DOWN MTG, MATT GAETZ & GOHMEEERT!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:23:56am

re: #71 The Pie Overlord!

THE INTOLERANT LEFT SHUTS DOWN MTG, MATT GAETZ & GOHMEEERT!!!

Did they storm the stage and steal the podium?

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mmmirele  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:26:23am

and this. Start about 16 minutes in and watch the GQP traitors run away.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:26:50am
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DodgerFan1988  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:27:24am

The right wing dogs in full force attacking attacking Simone Biles on social media.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:29:06am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:29:51am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:30:39am

re: #75 DodgerFan1988

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:30:42am

re: #75 DodgerFan1988

The right wing dogs in full force attacking attacking Simone Biles on social media.

Biles said that in the middle of her vault SHE LOST HER SENSE OF WHERE SHE WAS IN THE AIR.

That must have been utterly terrifying.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:31:19am

re: #75 DodgerFan1988

Both of those guys need to accidentally fall feet-first into a scrap metal shredder. Whoopsie-daisy!

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:32:18am

re: #79 The Pie Overlord!

It’s not like she is, and has been, under any pressure or anything.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:35:47am

re: #71 The Pie Overlord!

THE INTOLERANT LEFT SHUTS DOWN MTG, MATT GAETZ & GOHMEEERT!!!

Now this is cancel culture I can get behind!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:36:03am

Looks like the city of Zhengzhou, China (Henan Province) is having some serious damn problems.

Youtube Video

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:36:39am

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hodges had several good lines.

“If this is what American tourists are like, it’s no wonder other countries don’t like American tourists.”

and when Raskin asked why does he call them terrorists… he whips out the relevant law books and quotes the statute… yeah, this was terrorism.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:36:40am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

Fixed - hit refresh.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:37:44am
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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:38:27am

re: #62 Dr Lizardo

From IMDB: “A childless couple, María and Ingvar discover a mysterious newborn on their farm in Iceland. The unexpected prospect of family life brings them much joy, before ultimately destroying them.” Ooo-kay.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:38:39am

re: #81 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

It’s not like she’s is, and has been, under any pressure or anything.

Sometimes you can keep pushing yourself and pushing yourself and pushing yourself and you think you can make it through but your body hits a point where it’s like: “Nope. We’re done here.”

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:38:42am

re: #71 The Pie Overlord!

re: #74 Charles Johnson

I dunno, I tend to disagree (somewhat) on the “shut them down” approach to the 1/6-apolgist cretins: VB may be making a joke about “The Intolerant Left” , but it is a virtual certainty that the RW Noise Media will be running with that very framing in their coverage of the House Jan 6 hearings (in a desperate effort to change the subject, as they have been doing for months) - it’s not a public service, IMO, to make these clowns into any sort of “martyrs” - their own snowflake bleatings notwithstanding. A better approach would be to basically ignore them: or feature mocking coverage of their paltry crowd…
YMMV, of course.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:40:17am

re: #87 William Lewis

Little did I know at least one of my adoptive parents is still alive and apparently writing autobiographical screenplays set in Iceland.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:40:32am

The “thin blue line” flag and its related movement are about shared complicity in abuse of power…but after 1/6 the flow of that complicity has been reversed.

This was always going to happen because this was never good-faith support of the police. Police unions and individual cops emphasizing the rhetoric were attempting to create a moral panic that obscured racist policing policies and their lethal consequences…but “Back the Blue” conservatives didn’t sign on to support the general idea of policing, they signed on specifically for the corrupt transaction of allowing abuse of power against minorities in return for license to abuse their own power with impunity.

As always, the only stable reactionary axiom is “there is a hierarchy, I am towards the top for some reason, and those below must both be compliant and non-resistant to my whims, especially if it’s cruel and arbitrary.” People do not exist to be people, they exist to perform functions for the high castes and it is wrong and wrong—incorrect and immoral—for anyone to question this arrangement. Cops are supposed to do the labor of maintaining hierarchy—punching down literally and figuratively—and “the law” only exists to be applied to the lower castes. But LEOs are the highest type of low-caste individuals, so their impunity is extremely fragile.

This is most graphically present on 1/6…but it’s also there every time a Karen calls the police because they’re disquieted or a state senator tries to get away with speeding or a DUI. In this framework a cop that tries to apply justice equally is a bad cop; a cop that does not accept their position as boundary-guard between the castes is a bad cop. The outrage and indignation reactionaries display in these circumstances is entirely authentic, because they cannot conceive that the system of the world includes the possibilities such as that they will be called to account, or that their impression of “wrongdoing” have no legal weight. The response to the testimony today will be to simply deny the cop-ness of the cops…and then further deny them any personhood or entitlement to speak of their feelings or impressions. If they’re not performing their function—punching down—they deserve harm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:41:23am

re: #75 DodgerFan1988

The right wing dogs in full force attacking attacking Simone Biles on social media.

Experienced couch-vaulters all

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:43:35am

re: #78 Punish Domestic Terrorists

JFC

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:44:00am

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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And BTW, WTH is “RSBN”? Right-wing ShitBird News”??

IIJM, or is it getting harder and harder to tell the difference between “Mainstream” media, and lame partisan/ideologue hacks? Their on-screen graphics seem to be the same professional-looking jobs.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:44:04am

re: #75 DodgerFan1988

The right wing dogs in full force attacking attacking Simone Biles on social media.

“Oh, so she quit on her team at a time when they needed her most and cost them the championship.”

She didn’t cost them the championship.

US Gymnastics has a deep bench; they’re win anyway, just by a narrower margin.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:45:33am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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So the US Capitol was breached and ransacked in 2017? How did I miss that? I know there was unrest in DC itself (not the Capitol building) that day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:45:52am

This thread…yikes!

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:45:56am

re: #51 danarchy

Probably referring to the inauguration protests.

cnn.com

Protest/insurrection
Clip/magazine

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mmmirele  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:47:38am

re: #75 DodgerFan1988

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The right wing dogs in full force attacking attacking Simone Biles on social media.

They see her as a modern day minstel, she’s only good when she’s performing for their entertainment. Otherwise they could care less that Simone Biles is there at the Olympics even after being betrayed by USA Gymnastics, which kept Larry Nasser on despite his abuse.

They’d NEVER say this about a white woman.

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DesertDenizen  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:48:02am

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:48:03am

Mireček, Ostrava’s missing crocodile, has been found. He was in the owner’s basement all along. However, the owner might be in some trouble, basically for keeping a potentially hazardous animal without a special permit (which isn’t really hard to obtain).

The police said they’ll give the owner a fine for not getting the permit, and suggested he build a better enclosure for the critter.

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Semper Fi  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:48:43am

re: #90 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Little did I know at least one of my adoptive parents is still alive and apparently writing autobiographical screenplays set in Iceland.

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:48:49am

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:49:23am

Fuck off!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:49:44am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:50:14am

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:50:20am
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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:51:08am

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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It looks like a certain ex-lizard is long past-due for taking his own extended mental health break from twitter.

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DesertDenizen  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:52:07am

re: #99 mmmirele

I’m not so sure they wouldn’t come out against a white woman. Right wingers love mocking mental health issues. They deny their own and project their own self loathing onto others.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:52:51am

Republicans are stinking hot garbage.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:53:28am

re: #102 Semper Fi

“A childless couple, María and Ingvar discover a mysterious newborn on their farm in Iceland. The unexpected prospect of family life brings them much joy, before ultimately destroying them.”

If you squint just right, that’s a broad outline of my upbringing. ;)

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:54:40am

re: #99 mmmirele

They see her as a modern day minstel, she’s only good when she’s performing for their entertainment. Otherwise they could care less that Simone Biles is there at the Olympics even after being betrayed by USA Gymnastics, which kept Larry Nasser on despite his abuse.

They’d NEVER say this about a white woman.

Sure they would. You forget they’re also sexist.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:55:19am

Go back to your home in the sewers, Charlie.

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:55:28am

re: #86 jaunte

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dont piss off the people who prepare your food…

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:56:47am

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:57:20am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:57:29am

re: #113 DodgerFan1988

Go back to your home in the sewers, Charlie.

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Semper Fi  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:58:03am

re: #111 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

If you squint just right, that’s a broad outline of my upbringing. ;)

You’ve obviously done well for yourself…good on ya.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:58:07am

re: #109 DesertDenizen

I’m not so sure they wouldn’t come out against a white woman. Right wingers love mocking mental health issues. They deny their own and project their own self loathing onto others.

They trashed Megan Rapinoe awhile back I think.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:58:15am

re: #113 DodgerFan1988

Go back to your home in the sewers, Charlie.

It seems that dead policemen don’t count.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:58:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:58:57am

re: #101 Dr Lizardo

Mireček, Ostrava’s missing crocodile, has been found. He was in the owner’s basement all along. However, the owner might be in some trouble, basically for keeping a potentially hazardous animal without a special permit (which isn’t really hard to obtain).

The police said they’ll give the owner a fine for not getting the permit, and suggested he build a better enclosure for the critter.

My favorite alligator joke, hidden for truly offensive content:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 10:59:14am

re: #120 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

It seems that dead policemen don’t count.

They were Antifa. They got what they deserved.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:00:26am
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JOE 🥓  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:03:09am

re: #107 Charles Johnson

Gym Neighbors is in absolute fear that he’s gonna get grilled like a Nathan’s Frank on live TV.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:04:00am

re: #120 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

It seems that dead policemen don’t count.

Shorter Charlie Kirk: Actually, Blue Lives Don’t Matter.

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Semper Fi  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:04:11am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

You see, GG, it wasn’t a love fest after all.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:04:26am

There’s a continent of venomously anti-Pelosi lefties on Twitter who are not at all pleased with today’s hearing (and who never could/would be). There’s almost a predictable ratio of “good points” to “completely insane” that tends to emerge in the posts and threads. It’s perplexing to say the least.

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:05:12am

re: #120 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

It seems that dead policemen don’t count.

Officer sicknik they’re arguing “not Actually murdered”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:06:57am

re: #78 Punish Domestic Terrorists

See…this fascinates me but also alarms me because…it rhymes with everything else going on.

People are angry that Biles prioritized herself rather than harm herself performing the function consumers desire of her. She is supposed to be an uncomplaining unit of utility relative to the passive audience that demands service (in the form of spectacle; in the form of victory with nationalist residuals; in the form of parasocial availability, but paradoxically that availability cannot contain vulnerability or request respite.)

As they were about Naomi Osaka.

As they were about workers during covid.

As they were about football players with concussions.

As they were about soliders with PTSD.

There is a running theme in which people are expected to destroy themselves—-figuratively, then literally—uncomplainingly, to enact the role assigned to them by a cadre of people who are entitled to judge whether or not you are serving your function well enough.

To some extent, we all interact with other people in use-value terms…it’s just inevitable because we don’t know most people, we deal with most people within the framework of jobs or consumer interactions…but there is clearly a chunk of society that views all people as nothing but their function, and I would argue that they are the bloc that we currently describe as “conservative.” Their whole assumption is that there are entitled to their hegemony, to dictate the parameters of other’s selves, right down to allowing or denying thoughts and feelings.

(And some of the hegemons are sincere believers who will destroy themselves uncomplainingly to meet the standards of higher-tier hegemons, and view their self-immolation as the price of their license to control others.)

The phrase I keep using is “prove the worth of your life” but that doesn’t really encapsulate the worldview, because it doesn’t capture the narcissism and anthropophagy. Even if you perform your function, you aren’t allowed to accurately describe that experience or reflect on your feelings or complain. If you die as a consequence of performing your function, then it is wrong to observe that there is a cause and effect, that the death was arranged. You are a soldier widget, a fast food widget, a sex widget, a sink for abuse widget, and it is wrong to assert that your function is detrimental to your humanity.

We are supposed to be eaten and praise the cannibals as it happens.

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John Hughes  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:08:24am

Yay! Champigny sur Marne has got its first gold in Tokyo 2020!

Well done Clarisse!

(We also got a silver, but we have a way to go to equal our performance in 2016).

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:12:55am

I read somewhere this morning that in addition to the pain and stress, there has been a sense that Simone Biles’ scores for truly great performances have been noticeably lower than they should be. I can’t confirm and don’t remember the source. If so—and a big if—that would certainly add weight to a feeling of “why put myself through this pain?”

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:13:12am

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:13:16am
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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:14:14am

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:15:38am

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:15:41am

re: #134 Charles Johnson

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:16:24am

re: #134 Charles Johnson

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He really singlehandedly broke the country

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:18:22am

re: #130 The Ghost of a Flea

anthropophagy

I had to look it up. Word of the day.

We are supposed to be eaten and praise the cannibals as it happens.

And then do the dishes.

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:18:25am

They think it is all about personal choice whether to vax or not.

Do you have a personal choice as to which side of the road you drive down?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:18:53am

re: #132 Barefoot Grin

Also worth noting that Simone is 24 years old. Obviously that’s young in most regards, but for gymnastics? It’s about the equivalent of an NFL QB being in his mid to late thirties.

For comparison, Mckayla Maroney retired when she was 21.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:19:31am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:19:44am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:19:50am

re: #138 Dangerman

He really singlehandedly broke the country

We were already in pieces. He just set them all on fire.

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:20:06am

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:20:35am

People who aren’t broken never have to say they aren’t broken.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:23:32am

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Many hikers and women have carried whistles as safety equipment.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:24:37am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:24:55am
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:25:41am

re: #138 Dangerman

He really singlehandedly broke the country

He couldn’t have done it without repug complicity and aid. So no, not single-handed.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:26:29am

re: #147 wrenchwench

Who knew they were also anti-fascist tools?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:27:28am

re: #150 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

He couldn’t have done it without repug complicity and aid. So no, not single-handed.

and certainly not without the active help of an irresponsible media happy to have a reality TV celebrity candidate to help boost ratings

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JC1  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:27:30am

re: #150 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

He couldn’t have done it without repug complicity and aid. So no, not single-handed.

Absolutely. I would argue that Mitch McConnell is way more responsible for the current state of the US than Trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:27:59am

re: #153 JC1

Absolutely. I would argue that Mitch McConnell is way more responsible for the current state of the US than Trump.

THIS.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:29:11am

re: #151 Charles Johnson

Who knew they were also anti-fascist tools?

As opposed to a pro-fascist tool, like Hannity.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:29:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:29:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:30:15am
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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:30:51am

Civil rights leaders, including the Revs. Jesse Jackson and William Barber, were among 39 people arrested Monday after refusing to leave the Phoenix office of Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), who has faced unrelenting pressure from liberal activists over her opposition to ending the filibuster to pass voting rights legislation,” the Associated Press reports.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:31:07am

re: #48 GlutenFreeJesus

Yes. No attack on the Capitol but there were protests in DC.

cnn.com

It’s DC. Isn’t there protests like daily?

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:31:33am

The more conservative reactionaries like Matt Walsh, Greg Kelly, and Ben Shapiro spew their most vile troll-y nuclear hot takes projecting the most infantile selfish id brains the more I’m convinced that psychedelic trips should not only be legal but mandatory. Get these fucking ghouls to eat a few dried grams of psilocybin and lay in a big green field of grass with a couple of big oak trees nearby and just get their minds unfucked.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:31:41am

re: #126 A Three Hour Tour

Shorter Charlie Kirk: Actually, Blue Lives Don’t Matter.

All it ever really meant was that black lives don’t matter.

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:32:03am

re: #143 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Eh, I went ahead and tweeted what I said above. Blocked. Shrug. I do actually remember when he was a decent member of the community and never really understood what went wacko.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:34:22am

re: #163 William Lewis

Eh, I went ahead and tweeted what I said above. Blocked. Shrug. I do actually remember when he was a decent member of the community and never really understood what went wacko.

He was already in crisis when he stopped posting here. He’d been acting like a lunatic on Twitter for a long time, but I had no idea that he was now with traitors who want to pretend that a terrorist attack to end our democracy is about demonizing Republicans.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:34:42am

re: #153 JC1

Absolutely. I would argue that Mitch McConnell is way more responsible for the current state of the US than Trump.

McConnell spent decades turning the GOP into an utterly corrupt tool of oligarchs, so rotten that a reality show clown took complete control of it with ease.

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DesertDenizen  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:34:44am

re: #151 Charles Johnson

Thats the rub. Fascists are inherently weak and cowardly. That’s why they gravitate to what they see as strength. But in the end, resistance and sunlight send them scurrying like the vermin they are.

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:34:59am

re: #161 teleskiguy

The more conservative reactionaries like Matt Walsh, Greg Kelly, and Ben Shapiro spew their most vile troll-y nuclear hot takes projecting the most infantile selfish id brains the more I’m convinced that psychedelic trips should not only be legal but mandatory. Get these fucking ghouls eat a few dried grams of psilocybin and lay in a big green field of grass with a couple of big oak trees nearby and just get their minds unfucked.

And spill the wine

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:35:30am

re: #166 DesertDenizen

Thats the rub. Fascists are inherently weak and cowardly. That’s why they gravitate to what they see as strength. But in the end, resistance and sunlight send them scurrying like the vermin they are.

Vermin like Jack Pee who is calling patriots weak today.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:36:34am
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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:36:40am

re: #165 No Malarkey!

McConnell spent decades turning the GOP into an utterly corrupt tool of oligarchs, so rotten that a reality show clown took complete control of it with ease.

Ok that says it better

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:37:35am

Time to call it a day. Stay healthy, Lizards.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:37:49am
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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:38:20am

re: #166 DesertDenizen

Thats the rub. Fascists are inherently weak and cowardly. That’s why they gravitate to what they see as strength. But in the end, resistance and sunlight send them scurrying like the vermin they are.

They think unity is strength but to they really dont hold together when it matters

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:38:27am

Jake Tapper mentioned that busses were rented for this terrorist attack. I hope Fascist Charlie is sweating.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:39:17am

re: #173 Dangerman

They think unity is strength but to they really dont hold together when it matters

Unity could have been strength when it came to Covid, but these assholes are all about blind contrarianism, so of course they can’t hold together.

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DesertDenizen  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:39:49am

re: #173 Dangerman

Because they’re cowards and will instantly throw each other under the bus to save their own terrified asses.

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:40:38am
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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:42:02am
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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:42:08am

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JOE 🥓  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:42:13am

re: #174 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Jake Tapper mentioned that busses were rented for this terrorist attack. I hope Fascist Charlie is sweating.

And somebody else ought to be sweating too! Ginny Thomas!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:42:24am

re: #177 Dangerman

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:43:19am

re: #180 JOE 🥓

And somebody else ought to be sweating too! Ginny Thomas!

I thought of her, but do not have a nickname for her at this time, so it didn’t fit the post. I didn’t want to imply she’s not fascist by calling her by her name.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:44:06am

They aren’t fucking around.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:46:04am

re: #178 No Malarkey!

Someone tell Ben that science always changes with new information.

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:46:11am
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JOE 🥓  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:46:30am

Can’t wait for the moment they subpoena Trump!

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:48:12am

re: #182 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I thought of her, but do not have a nickname for her at this time, so it didn’t fit the post. I didn’t want to imply she’s not fascist by calling her by her name.

Commenting has become so damn complicated!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:48:39am
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jaunte  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:49:57am

Fractal hackery from Steve Cortes, who is wrong at every level.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:50:03am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:51:05am

re: #168 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Vermin like Jack Pee who is calling patriots weak today.

Didn’t he try to instigate violence at the 2017 protests?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:51:45am

re: #189 jaunte

Fractal hackery from Steve Cortes, who is wrong at every level.

So wrong that he has to post on a Twitter alternative for people who can’t tell the truth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:53:28am
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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:53:32am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

Like that amazingly self owning text.

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:54:17am

re: #179 nines09

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+1 on it all

When I was a lifeguard back in the 70s the Acme Thunderer was the gold standard whistle

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:55:38am
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JOE 🥓  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:56:21am
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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:56:35am

re: #195 Dangerman

I was a USSF ref a long time ago and learned fast a LOUD whistle was needed to keep kids from killing one another.

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darthstar  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:58:47am
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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 11:59:55am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

I remember when some people said that Rickey Henderson didn’t deserve to go in the baseball HOF because they thought he sometimes “dogged it.” This is a guy who, at one point in his career, had scored more runs, drawn more walks, and stolen more bases than any other player in MLB history, and loved the game so much he went and played in independent leagues when he couldn’t play in the majors anymore. (But like Biles, he was black, therefore “lazy” unlike the white players whose records he broke, Ruth and Cobb). Biles is the GOAT, and I trust her judgment more than I do these assholes who’ve won jackshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:00:41pm
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darthstar  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:00:51pm

If the January 6 Select Committee hearings are anything like today’s going forward, then it’s going to be a long winter for the GOP.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:02:10pm

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:02:26pm

re: #186 JOE 🥓

Can’t wait for the moment they subpoena Trump!

If only….

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:02:40pm

re: #197 JOE 🥓

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:03:25pm

re: #203 teleskiguy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:03:31pm
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Jay C  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:03:47pm

re: #195 Dangerman

+1 on it all

When I was a lifeguard back in the 70s the Acme Thunderer was the gold standard whistle

And, apparently, it still is.

Fascinating that these whistles are still being made by the same company that started in 1883.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:05:40pm

re: #160 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s DC. Isn’t there protests like daily?

Red Herrings by the netload today.

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Dangerman  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:06:15pm

fwiw, interesting that a call goes out for shots fired / officer needs help / officer down etc and things get mobilized. not a lot of questions or verification or bureaucracy.

how long does it take? minutes? don’t they just sort of roll ‘em?

1/6 they needed help almost immediately.
they saw the crowd coming
then knocking down the barriers
i dont know specifically what calls were made and to who (well kevin made one )

in the end we’re talking HOURS to respond

we know why - who was in charge, who could give the order etc.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:07:35pm

re: #203 teleskiguy

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:07:42pm

re: #143 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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Hey, Gus, if liberals really were MSNBC viewers, the station would be Number 1 all the time in ratings.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:08:49pm

re: #212 Belafon

Hey, Gus, if liberals really were MSNBC viewers, the station would be Number 1 all the time in ratings.

He obviously seeks approval from idiots these days. You’re not going to be able to get through to him.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:09:13pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

So who bought the Wu-Tang album? I hope it was RZA. (or Method Man. or Ghostface Killa. Or… any of them, really.)

It it wasn’t a member of Wu-Tang, my next best hope is Jay-Z.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:10:32pm

For Stephen King fans.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:11:52pm

Sure you did, asshole!

Ex-NYPD cop who gouged Capitol officer’s eyes during Jan. 6 riot says he was just doing a defensive ‘hockey’ move

A former NYPD cop charged in the Jan. 6 insurrection says he was merely performing a defensive “hockey type of move” when he allegedly tried to gouge a Capitol police officer’s eyes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:13:00pm

re: #214 sagehen

So who bought the Wu-Tang album? I hope it was RZA. (or Method Man. or Ghostface Killa. Or… any of them, really.)

It it wasn’t a member of Wu-Tang, my next best hope is Jay-Z.

Feds aren’t saying who bought it or how much was paid

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:13:25pm
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Jay C  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:13:50pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The provenance documentation on that Gilgamesh tablet must have been unduly shaky, even by Hobby Lobby standards (who signed the export docs? Hammurabi?). Although to me, the main “culprit” here aren’t the Greens, or the MotB - who after all, are notorious amateurs - but “The Auction House” (which I noticed, is conveniently unnamed).

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Teukka  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:14:04pm

OOF.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:14:20pm

re: #214 sagehen

That would be dope. Or Ad-Rock or Mike D. Wouldn’t it be super weird/cool if, like, the estate of James Brown bought it?

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:16:26pm

Martin Shkreli recoups loss by selling NFT video detailing seizure of unique Wu-Tang Album.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:17:45pm

Blue Lives Matter, huh?

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:18:30pm

“Economic anxiety”.

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Alephnaught  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:18:49pm

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

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Teukka  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:20:18pm

OWIE.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:21:54pm

re: #216 JOE 🥓

Anyone who watches hockey has heard… “Number 23. Two minutes for eye gouging.”
Wait he’s bleeding….
“Five minute major and a game misconduct…”

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Citizen K  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:22:19pm

I regret to inform you that the fucking New York Times is at it again. This from one of their current staff editors.

Covid raging again and possibly requiring reinstatement of health restrictions again because of how bad it’s getting? Clearly all super-massive Dem tyranny and they deserve to lose the elections for it, because they’re clearly to blame for this happening in the first place! Dems always at fault, Dems always at fault forever!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:23:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:26:04pm

re: #199 darthstar

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:26:35pm

Go to hell, you fuckin’ maggot!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:27:07pm

re: #220 Teukka

OOF.

Shhhhhh. They don’t grok scientific methodology, we all know that a properly run experiment needs that control group.

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Teukka  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:27:09pm

re: #228 Citizen K

I regret to inform you that the fucking New York Times is at it again. This from one of their current staff editors.

Covid raging again and possibly requiring reinstatement of health restrictions again because of how bad it’s getting? Clearly all super-massive Dem tyranny and they deserve to lose the elections for it, because they’re clearly to blame for this happening in the first place! Dems always at fault, Dems always at fault forever!!!

The CDC reversing course on masking for vaxxed is a wise move.
Delta sheds a lot more virus, like three orders of magnitude more, which makes indirect transmission even more likely, as well as the virus simply overwhelming the immune system (not because the virus is resistant to the vaccine).
The usual suspects will of course harp on about testing not being done and allege that’s why unvaxxinated are so grossly overrepresented among the infected by CoViD stats…
As well as outright ad homs on Fauci.

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steve_davis  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:28:35pm

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Experienced couch-vaulters all

In the middle of their vault through life, they lost their sense of where they were.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:28:42pm

re: #231 DodgerFan1988

We walked foot posts alone at night during the high-crime 1990s South Bronx, outnumbered dozens to one by bad guys.

Bragging about being ineffective.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:29:43pm

re: #235 jaunte

Bragging about being ineffective.

Seems like they should have at least partnered up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:29:53pm

Just pathetic

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Citizen K  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:29:59pm

re: #233 Teukka

The CDC reversing course on masking for vaxxed is a wise move.
Delta sheds a lot more virus, like three orders of magnitude more, which makes indirect transmission even more likely, as well as the virus simply overwhelming the immune system (not because the virus is resistant to the vaccine).
The usual suspects will of course harp on about testing not being done and allege that’s why unvaxxinated are so grossly overrepresented among the infected by CoViD stats…
As well as outright ad homs on Fauci.

This is all true. It’s just, once again, New York Times seeming to always find a way to spin a story so that it must, necessarily, be Bad for Democrats and Good For The GOP. Never about who should actually be to blame for it, only resentment against Dems is valid and worth covering even if we have to invent it, for they must be held to blame for everything, even existing.

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Teukka  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:30:05pm

re: #232 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Shhhhhh. They don’t grok scientific methodology, we all know that a properly run experiment needs that control group.

They don’t grok the scientific method either, which is why those of us who got drilled hard in its proper application will dismiss some research faster than you can blink.
Like, they don’t get that the issues that have arisen with the research into HCQ and other “miracle cures” are such that the research report can be dismissed because they circumvented important safeguards.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:30:18pm

re: #223 DodgerFan1988

Rank in file — I’m really tired of people who write by ear listening to people who can’t enunciate.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:30:28pm

re: #236 Barefoot Grin

Dozens of criminals around him, doing crime unmolested.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:30:32pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:32:23pm

I guess the tactic of the day for the GOP is not to watch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:32:28pm
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JOE 🥓  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:32:53pm

The DOOFUS get smacked down again.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:33:57pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:34:02pm
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:34:46pm

re: #228 Citizen K

I regret to inform you that the fucking New York Times is at it again. This from one of their current staff editors.

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Covid raging again and possibly requiring reinstatement of health restrictions again because of how bad it’s getting? Clearly all super-massive Dem tyranny and they deserve to lose the elections for it, because they’re clearly to blame for this happening in the first place! Dems always at fault, Dems always at fault forever!!!

Considering we don’t actually punish people for failing to take personal responsibility for their actions, we’ll have to impose mask mandates.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:36:36pm

NPD may be extremely common in Republicans. They think they can define their own reality.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:37:38pm
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:38:03pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just pathetic

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If you’re going to post online, Gus, take the criticism like an adult and quit whining.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:38:24pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:39:10pm

re: #251 Belafon

If you’re going to post online, Gus, take the criticism like an adult and quit whining.

Something is REALLY wrong there. He feels like he has to paint an alternate reality for whoever is reading.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:39:27pm

I emphasize this a lot, but what’s happening in our politics replicates the tactics abusers use to control and terrorize, and I feel that the invocations of “cowardice” needs to be looked at in precisely that same frame.

These people are comprehensive cowards. They have no ideology because they are afraid of self-reflection and incapable of self-imposed constraint, but scared of total freedom of nihilism such that they’ve invented ontologicially and morally empty pseudo-ideologies that provide the catchphrases and rituals that seem to impart meaning. Their fantasies are of supreme authorities (God, Country, the military) granting both the license to do as they will and the aegis to do so with impunity, but also unlimited, members-only forgiveness.

[Capitalism and individualism, like catalysts, make this process faster and smoother. Fetishizing the self as unique and demanding expression is an end-run around genuine self reflection, and treats the self as a fossil rather than something that is context-dependent, malleable, and changeable. It’s also entry-level antisocial, denying the inherent connectivity of social existence. Monetization and marketing of ideas like consumer goods incentivizes destroying deep meaning in favor of what is easy, familiar, and undemanding.]

And here’s the hard part to process:

They’ve been successful to a large degree in getting away with shit because they’ve built their preferred forms of abuse into the country. Our carcereal state is just racism with extra steps and slavery with extra steps. Our foreign policy is just colonialism with an extra step, and our military engagements are precisely the shit shows they are (post Korea) because the military is not achieved limited objectives but thrown against whatever the reactionaries hate and fear enough to get their blood up.

Up until now, the people they’ve wanted to be hurt and killed have been hurt and killed, and the culture has largely allowed them to publicly enjoy that process. In the few places their appetites have been stymied, such as in the realm of both sexual harassment and violence towards the sexual/gender nonconforming, their declaration of their entitlements over the bodies and spirits of others have been barely coded, and their revanchism—what they will do, granted license—has never been concealed.

We’re not at the beginning of the relationship, where you can just boot the abuser and move on while they slink off. The is the end-phase of a long cohabitation where in spite of getting most of what they want, the abusers still feel entitled to more, and to no pushback, and to no shame…so they’re escalating the way cowards escalate, diving forward and cringing back, each particular instance of abuse a lunge to do as much damage as they can while not feeling at risk. If they’re permitted, then they have license and are allowed to escalate; if they’re resisted, they’re victims that are entitled to escalate at some later date.

Cowards kill faster and with less provocation.

It’s a mistake to understand this situation as a pressure gauge, where the awful people in this culture can be maintained below a certain point and thus be irrelevant. They will escalate the minute they feel safe, and right now the attempts at imposing consequences aren’t working…the goons are very visible but ultimately unimportant—people that will destroy themselves for a moment of power—but the people doing the real harm have money and political power that means they can just do this all again.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:40:16pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:42:36pm

re: #254 The Ghost of a Flea

ALL OF THIS is about white people no longer being in control of the country, and instead having to share power with others.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:44:06pm

re: #255 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Don’t know. He blocked me, and the decline in his mental health is not my problem. I’d feel bad for him because of his struggles, but like the right-wingers, he’s an asshole now.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:44:16pm

re: #256 Belafon

Lots of panic under all that racism, misogyny, hate and spite. I just wish there was a way to minimize the damage they love to do.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:46:29pm

re: #258 A Mom Anon

Lots of panic under all that racism, misogyny, hate and spite. I just wish there was a way to minimize the damage they love to do.

I think all we can do is to continue to move toward holding white right-wing assholes responsible for their actions. They’ve gotten away with so much for so many years, but we sometimes actually lock them up.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:46:45pm
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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:48:08pm

Well it looks like I am buying that Power Ball ticket for tomorrows draw. Just got notified by the TF County Jury Admin that the case I was a potential Juror for has been “settled”. That’s twice now that cases have been “settled” the day before I was required to appear.
I would be foolish to ignore such a streak of luck wouldn’t I? :-)

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:48:45pm

America had a bad boss for four years

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:49:30pm

re: #261 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Well it looks like I am buying that Power Ball ticket for tomorrows draw. Just got notified by the TF County Jury Admin that the case I was a potential Juror for has been “settled”. That’s twice now that cases have been “settled” the day before I was required to appear.
I would be foolish to ignore such a streak of luck wouldn’t I? :-)

Well, look at it this way:
Justice has been served!

And, fortunately, NOT by you!!!!

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:49:56pm

re: #231 DodgerFan1988

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Go to hell, you fuckin’ maggot!

Is it just me, or did he just equate blacks and bad guys? (Not a question, really.)

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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:50:18pm

re: #260 DodgerFan1988

On the phone with a white hot meltdown Trump?

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:50:25pm

re: #261 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Well it looks like I am buying that Power Ball ticket for tomorrows draw. Just got notified by the TF County Jury Admin that the case I was a potential Juror for has been “settled”. That’s twice now that cases have been “settled” the day before I was required to appear.
I would be foolish to ignore such a streak of luck wouldn’t I? :-)

Good luck and bad luck both come in threes.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:50:54pm

re: #261 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Well it looks like I am buying that Power Ball ticket for tomorrows draw. Just got notified by the TF County Jury Admin that the case I was a potential Juror for has been “settled”. That’s twice now that cases have been “settled” the day before I was required to appear.
I would be foolish to ignore such a streak of luck wouldn’t I? :-)

California Lottery just announced that Powerball draws are going to start on Mondays beginning 8/23. 3 draws a week…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:51:02pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:51:37pm

re: #259 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I was glad to hear the testimony today calling things the way they are. Traitors, insurrection, planned violence, all got referred to today. On TV and in the written record. The coming days are going to reveal a lot of things that are going to make the right very uncomfortable.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:53:15pm

re: #255 Colère Tueur de Lapin

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:54:47pm

re: #265 nines09

On the phone with a white hot meltdown Trump?

and his lawyers because McCarthy is certainly gonna need them

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:55:13pm

re: #268 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I was kind of delighted that when the four cops were asked what they want to see come out of the committee, they basically inferred they’d like to see people like Kevin McCarthy end up in jail. They want the guys that hired the hit man.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:55:17pm

re: #267 JOE 🥓

California Lottery just announced that Powerball draws are going to start on Mondays beginning 8/23. 3 draws a week…

Missed that one.

Always wondered why they didn’t increase the number of days of the week.

Lottery sales started to really slide a few years ago, for the draw games. The scratchers are much more popular.

If they want to increase draw games sales, perhaps they ought to pay out something that more represents the actual odds?

When I get a three-number win, the payout is like $9 or $10, on a $2 ticket, when the odds are something like 693 to 1 (for 2 white balls + megaball for MegaMillions.) Vegas would pay out over $1k for a win like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:56:15pm
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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:56:51pm

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:57:43pm

My answer to Polly: however long it takes

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:59:07pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jul 27, 2021 • 12:59:13pm

The turtle was hiding in his shell rather than to attend the Capitol Police testimony.

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Teukka  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:00:26pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

My answer to Polly: however long it takes

I’ve lost a three dogs that weren’t even mine, I just dogsat them occasionally. I miss them greatly, each for individual reasons.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:00:59pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

“What’s the difference between Democrats and Never Trumpers?”

A lot of the Never Trumpers know how to fight really dirty.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:01:19pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:03:19pm

re: #278 DodgerFan1988

There should be no further questions put to the fascists.
Just justice.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:04:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:07:52pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:08:26pm

re: #236 Barefoot Grin

Seems like they should have at least partnered up.

And I bet they didn’t have orders not to discharge their weapons if threatened

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:08:50pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

Good. All those asshats wanted was a platform from which to spew more lies and get them on television, even if it’s only Right Side Broadcasting Network (a network in this case being a YouTube channel, Facebook and Twitter feeds, being run by Trump worshipper Joe Seales)

Jordon, Green, et al. would whinge about the intolerant left anyway, and so would most of the rest of the GQP.

There is no reason to let them stand there in public and brazenly lie to people with their fascist agitprop.

re: #177 Dangerman

And Ben Sasse can take a leap. Decades of polling have always shown this about non-believers. Your religion is dying, Senator, and if you have to lie to defend it, that will only hasten its demise.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:08:53pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:10:11pm

😂

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:14:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:14:58pm

JFC, this moron

yeah, we’ll see how this works out with the Delta and subsequent variants:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:16:02pm

BTW, Massie brags about how his own kids are homeskooled, so this masks in schools bullshit doesn’t affect his family at all.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:16:07pm

re: #184 jaunte

Someone tell Ben that science always changes with new information.

He knows: He is a conservative, therefore he’s lying.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:16:58pm

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:19:04pm

re: #275 nines09

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:21:44pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:23:26pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

“a robust immune response as indicated a year ago”

Because absolutely nothing changes IN A FUCKING YEAR.

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Teukka  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:24:37pm
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:25:51pm

Pelosi ought to have a surprise meeting with all of the lawmakers and, after they are seated, bring in some covid positive 20 somethings to testify.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:26:46pm

re: #294 Colère Tueur de Lapin

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:27:19pm

Finally got my Ryzen 7 2700X - installed it, it bitched about the TPM and CMOS, but came up clean - and quick.

I be a happy camper for now.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:28:07pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:30:14pm

re: #302 No Malarkey!

Between this and the threat of more lockdowns / mask mandates I am predicting much losing of their shit by right wingers in the coming weeks.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:35:13pm

re: #303 Eclectic Cyborg

Between this and the threat of more lockdowns / mask mandates I am predicting much losing of their shit by right wingers in the coming weeks.

Going to be interesting to see the reaction from the federal workforce and their unions about this.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:36:43pm

re: #303 Eclectic Cyborg

Between this and the threat of more lockdowns / mask mandates I am predicting much losing of their shit by right wingers in the coming weeks.

Some may even get themselves locked up. I’ll order the popcorn now.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:37:12pm

re: #256 Belafon

ALL OF THIS is about white people no longer being in control of the country, and instead having to share power with others.

…but it’s also about money.

Whiteness is a scam. It’s meaningless by design, a concept that is hollow so that it can be filled with positives and easy-access so that its contents can be curated. It’s curated to grant and limit access to power, so the boundaries of “white” change a great deal…most importantly, in the day-the-day micro of whiteness, where people get kicked out of “white” because they fail to serve their assigned purpose.

White trash is a really important stigma to look at when considering the complete meaning of being white The most common from of expulsion from whiteness is being poor individually or collectively, but there’s also the decade by decade process by which groups are assigned marginal whiteness after their utility to people with power diminishes, or their suffering becomes embarrassing for whiteness and they must be removed from view or made scapegoats.

But it’s also notable that the most common form of acquiring whiteness is to attain enough material wealth or clout to make the assertion and not be openly contradicted. The second is to adopt the cultural modes and expressions of the dominating white culture…which itself is a backdoor expression of wealth, because it’s conspicuous consumption (of goods, or services, of culture)…and attempt assimilation. The third is to be an individual that weaponizes their nonwhite identity in the cause of whiteness.

I think this is important because this is a process not a state: there is no physical thing, no well-constructed idea, to push against. Reactionaries are and are not motivated by whiteness…but if you open up the concept of whiteness it’s core conceit is an entitlement to power with no constraints beyond hierarchy. But if we open up all the other idea-boxes of reactionaries—nationalism, gender essentialism, capitalism—we find exactly the same core conceit.

[NB: I’d argue that the consistent manner in which reactionaries create self-indulgent exceptions to their own “rules” is a better representation of what they believe than what they say, and this applies to the concept of whiteness as well. The rules are broken in a very consistent manner that demonstrates an ideology that’s not stated.]

It is a mistake to attribute consistent thought to people who are not thinking. There’s nothing to debunk or argue about, because they will believe whatever thing is a pyramid shaped diagram that grants them as much license as they can imagine.

The assholes in the streets have goon brains. But the country is being destroyed by the people with so much money and power that they never hear “No” and have decided that it’s better to destroy the society itself rather than be questioned.

I mentioned before that we’re dealing with abusers who’ve gotten a great deal of what they wanted…that applies geometrically more for the wealthy and powerful compared to the average goon brain reactionary. We live in a kleptocracy where the center of government gives money to the people with the most money while being poor is criminalized. We live in an oligarchy where the wealthy can play with personal armies and do social experiments, and hold money over the heads of aid agencies and public health officials to get things their way. We live in an empire where people suffer and die in near-slavery overseas, for the benefit of a tiny number of people, and when that money is fucked with our army and our intelligence agencies retaliate.

Many of these people play with whiteness because whiteness is an aesthetic of power. Sticking your philanthropic dick in African aid organizations while ignoring on the ground assessments of what’s needed is a form of white entitlement that’s more subtle than creating an entire Potemkin apparatus to make race science still a going thing…but they’re all playing with the same building blocks. The current reactionary eruption is putatively in service to some kind of societal transformation involving social conservatism and whiteness…but it’s being funding by people who want to maintain their status quo of having everything, including the entitlement to redefine the boundaries of what is important. Even if the mob doesn’t succeed, they’re providing enough disruption that the worst aspects of the status quo will further metastasize.

This is basically a rug pull. The neo-Confederates with a broad social agenda can lose and their financial backers can both get that moeny and perpetuate a less-than-superliminal racist system that is still getting worse. And in a few years when they want more license, more power, they can just repeat this process of making the rubes swarm.

…which is what they’ve been doing since the time of Reagan…or Eisenhower, if you count overseas adventures involving the Dulles Brothers.

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Mattand  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:37:22pm

re: #300 nines09

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:41:01pm

re: #302 No Malarkey!

Fine with me. If federal employees have to go back to the office, every employee or contractor should be vaccinated. This is a health issue.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:41:32pm

I’d be curious to see the demographic breakdown of unvaccinated people.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:43:00pm

re: #299 Belafon

What would that achieve? I assume the purpose would not be to change Republican minds.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:45:38pm

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:46:09pm

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

Will the Supreme Court allow House Democrats to enforce subpoenas? That has yet to be seen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:53:21pm

LOL, Wendy collecting the martyr cookies

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:53:24pm
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Kilroy was here  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:53:30pm
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steve_davis  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:55:30pm

all right, i want to know the following things: are the people in ICU who claim they are vaccinated actually vaccinated, or are they just lying so that they don’t have to be lectured by staff? If they’ve actually been vaccinated, were they immunocompromised to the point where the vaccine just wasn’t effective, or were they between doses of pfizer or moderna, or were they inside the first week or two after the second dose? I want to have a sense of what my actual chances are of being hospitalized if I’m healthy, not immunocompromised, got both doses of pfizer, and am well past the window for when strong immunity should have kicked in. ‘Cause I’m gonna be in a small room with students this fall, some vaccinated, some not, and I don’t want to be a tragic story in the Washington Post.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:57:28pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Wendy collecting the martyr cookies

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:58:02pm

re: #316 steve_davis

How do you react at flu season, since that vaccine is not fully protective? Serious question.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:58:08pm

re: #316 steve_davis

all right, i want to know the following things: are the people in ICU who claim they are vaccinated actually vaccinated, or are they just lying so that they don’t have to be lectured by staff? If they’ve actually been vaccinated, were they immunocompromised to the point where the vaccine just wasn’t effective, or were they between doses of pfizer or moderna, or were they inside the first week or two after the second dose? I want to have a sense of what my actual chances are of being hospitalized if I’m healthy, not immunocompromised, got both doses of pfizer, and am well past the window for when strong immunity should have kicked in. ‘Cause I’m gonna be in a small room with students this fall, some vaccinated, some not, and I don’t want to be a tragic story in the Washington Post.

My sense is that breakthrough cases are rare, and usually mild, especially if you are healthy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:58:19pm

re: #316 steve_davis

Most of the people who are not vaxxed are PROUD of the fact. They wouldn’t worry about a lecture from commie doctors and nurses.

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:58:45pm

re: #223 DodgerFan1988

Blue Lives Matter, huh?

“Back the Blue” is and was always a sham.

“Enforce White Supremacism” has always been the actual underlying message.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 1:59:50pm

re: #314 No Malarkey!

when we were on our way to my first cataract surgery, we crossed the river into Ironton, Ohio, and our noses started to squint “what is that SMELL?”

Then we saw the miles-long railroad loads of coal parked near the power plant.

yowser, that stuff stinks even before it gets burned.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:00:37pm

re: #321 Florida Panhandler

“Back the Blue” is and was always a sham.

“Enforce White Supremacism” has always been the actual underlying message.

And the message is strongest from areas where the cops are still all about white supremacy and keeping those people in their place. They’re not talking about backing the black cop who works with the community in the city.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:00:45pm

re: #304 Belafon

Going to be interesting to see the reaction from the federal workforce and their unions about this.

We’re on what is termed maximum telework; unless you have a VeryImportant™ reason (e.g.,work in a lab) you’re working from home — I wish this to continue to ∞ and beyond. Some don’t. I don’t see the current policy at my agency changing anytime in the near, or even distant, future

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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:01:38pm

Later Lizards.

Remember boys and girls…..

Youtube Video

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TedStriker  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:02:37pm

re: #22 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, same here.

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Sounds like Ackroyd, not Murray, in that end shot, because it looks like he’s in the occult shop Ray was running at the beginning of Ghostbusters 2

The Gozerian dog busting out of the front door of the Walmart was a nice touch…

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steve_davis  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:03:00pm

re: #318 Belafon

How do you react at flu season, since that vaccine is not fully protective? Serious question.

I don’t bother with the flu vaccine because I’ve never had the flu.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:03:49pm

re: #307 Mattand

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:07:58pm

re: #327 steve_davis

I don’t bother with the flu vaccine because I’ve never had the flu.

I’ve never had covid.

I would say that if you wear your mask, you should be pretty much ok. But not having had the flu doesn’t mean you won’t catch it, and during a normal flu year, a few thousand people die, some of whom have gotten the vaccine.

Fixed grammar.

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John Hughes  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:11:50pm

re: #205 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Aren’t senators supposed to have some faint understanding of due process?
Why is Randy taking about punishment? Doesn’t he understand that punishment comes after conviction, not after arrest?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:12:41pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

This thread…yikes!

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:15:39pm
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TedStriker  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:18:51pm

re: #255 Colère Tueur de Lapin

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:19:30pm

re: #256 Belafon

ALL OF THIS is about white people no longer being in control of the country, and instead having to share power with others.

This afternoon a guest on Nicole Wallace said that 85% of positions of power are held by white Christian men. So they are pretty much still in power — but not happy that they may have to share a little with others.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:20:31pm
The Multi-State Lottery Association, which administers the Powerball game, concluded that more frequent drawings would attract more customers and has adopted a change in association rules, to be effective for the August 23, 2021, drawing, to conduct drawings three times each week, instead of two,” the commission said in a memo to its board members.

Good luck with that.

I for one will not be playing PowerBall three times a week. (Indeed, I currently don’t buy PowerBall tickets at all. I limit myself to only one game (MegaMillions.))

Instead of what the MSL association claims, they are trying to extract more $$$ from their current players.

Why would adding a Monday draw bring in more customers?

I think this will not reverse the downward trend in draw game sales.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:21:37pm

re: #216 JOE 🥓

In Real life, a hockey player doing that move would get:
1) Game misconduct
2) Ejection
3) A very tense appointment in the Commissioner’s office.
4) Contract voided, as their team no longer wants them.
5) Possible ban

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:22:17pm

re: #273 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Missed that one.

….

When I get a three-number win, the payout is like $9 or $10, on a $2 ticket, when the odds are something like 693 to 1 (for 2 white balls + megaball for MegaMillions.) Vegas would pay out over $1k for a win like that.

Keep in mind that there are other payoffs that have to be included — for example the MegaMillions. Plus the funding for state services. You have to add all these costs together to determine whether the payoffs are reasonable.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:22:55pm

What the MSL did successfully do is block the MegaMillions folk from adding any more days.

MM is on Tuesday and Friday. It is unlikely they would add Thursday (back-to-back draws are not a good idea) and Sunday will be objectionable in some states.

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Ming5000  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:24:10pm

re: #91 The Ghost of a Flea

This is a wonderful observation, and I want to remember these words:

The “thin blue line” flag and its related movement are about shared complicity in abuse of power

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:26:14pm

re: #336 Sherlock Hound

An eye gouge almost never happens in hockey. Usually if one player is pissed at another he’ll just spear him or high stick them or drop the gloves and start fighting.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:26:54pm

re: #337 Hecuba’s daughter

The jackpot also pays but a fraction of the actual odds, but the payout is closer to the actual odds.

The problem is the scheme to pay out MegaBall (or PowerBall) single number winners.

MM pays $2 usually for someone who only gets the megaball number. but the odds of that is like one in 27. While this too is a very low payout for the actual odds, it is an order of magnitude more payout than the less likely hits of two wbs +mb, or three white balls, and especially 4 whiteballs (or 3+1.)

The idea of course is that these lotteries are voluntary taxation. The money raised goes into states’ funds.

So the reality is any payout is thus a sort of tax refund.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:27:33pm

re: #319 No Malarkey!

My sense is that breakthrough cases are rare, and usually mild, especially if you are healthy.

Breakthrough cases may have been rare pre delta, but they may have become much more common since delta has spread throughout the land. But I think that even under delta, the vaccinated are very likely to experience relatively mild symptoms, at least sufficiently so as not to require hospitalization. We need more study on that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:29:40pm

re: #341 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As they say, Lotteries are a tax on those who can’t do math.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:30:15pm

re: #205 Punish Domestic Terrorists

BLM rioter punched a police officer in the face requiring surgical repair. Punishment? Released on his own recognizance! Non-violent trespassing in Capitol on January 6th? Solitary confinement without parole! Double standard? You bet!

The attacker still faces charges. He is out on bond NOT PAROLE. It depends on whether he poses a flight risk. That is a matter for judges to apply to each individual case.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:30:37pm

re: #337 Hecuba’s daughter

Keep in mind that there are other payoffs that have to be included — for example the MegaMillions. Plus the funding for state services. You have to add all these costs together to determine whether the payoffs are reasonable.

Pari-mutuel betting for horse racing, 83% of the bets has to be paid out in winnings. The other 17% goes to overhead and taxes.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:31:22pm

re: #342 Hecuba’s daughter

Breakthrough cases may have been rare pre delta, but they may have become much more common since delta has spread throughout the land. But I think that even under delta, the vaccinated are very likely to experience relatively mild symptoms, at least sufficiently so as not to require hospitalization. We need more study on that.

Some people are still saying it’s the sickest they’ve even been, but those are people who have never been sick enough to be hospitalized. Symptoms seem to be flu-like, which is bad, but it’s not destroying their bodies like it does for the unvaccinated.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:32:42pm

re: #262 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I love that it comes from Forbes. Those “Bad Bosses” are Captains of Industry, Knights of Capitalism. Forbes and the financial press sucked off people like the late Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison. The head of Enron was slobbered by these people in the dot-com days. I hope the blood tests didn’t come out too bad.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:33:01pm

From The Economist article dragging Sen. Sasse:

We ran a statistical model to control for potential links between attitudes towards QAnon and other demographics—such as race, age, gender, education, party affiliation and vote choice in 2020. Our model confirmed that the relationship between church attendance and QAnon was not a statistical fluke: adults who attended church at least once a month were eight percentage points more likely than we predicted to rate QAnon favourably.

What drives belief in conspiracy theories, a lack of religion or too much? (today)

The most accurate indicator in belief in conspiracy theories (whether modern ones like Q or classical ones like the so-called Moon landing hoax) is church attendance. The more you go, the more likely your mind is to be poisoned with conspiracy theories.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:33:05pm

re: #225 Alephnaught

“If you like Russia so much, why don’t go live there?”

They want to bring Russia here: the oligarchy, the militarism, xenophobia, homophobia, cronyism and of course the theocracy, just replace Orthodoxy with Fundamentalist Protestantism

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:34:26pm

re: #343 Eclectic Cyborg

As they say, Lotteries are a tax on those who can’t do math.

People gamble for fun. It is one of the long running forms of entertainment for humans. I find draw games more entertaining than, say, Bingo.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:34:27pm

re: #203 teleskiguy

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:36:34pm

re: #350 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

People gamble for fun. It is one of the long running forms of entertainment for humans. I find draw games more entertaining than, say, Bingo.

I find lotto tickets inexpensive, and as such cheap entertainment.

I was also sent a coupon from the state lotto today to enter a sweepstakes for a chance to win season tickets to see University of Nebraska Women’s Volleyball. (Not terribly interested in that, plus UNL is four hundred miles away, but if I win I’ll give those tickets to our general store owner, who regularly goes to their games because he’s interested in the technique and skill of the team. /s)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:36:36pm

re: #280 stpaulbear

A lot of the Never Trumpers know how to fight really dirty.

Lincoln Project is a prime example of that

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:36:38pm

re: #346 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Some people are still saying it’s the sickest they’ve even been, but those are people who have never been sick enough to be hospitalized. Symptoms seem to be flu-like, which is bad, but it’s not destroying their bodies like it does for the unvaccinated.

There was an article (maybe NYTimes?) explaining that the medical definition of mild differs significantly from common parlance: As long as you’re not ill enough to be hospitalized, it may be called “mild” or “moderate”.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:38:09pm

re: #351 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:38:28pm

re: #350 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

People gamble for fun. It is one of the long running forms of entertainment for humans. I find draw games more entertaining than, say, Bingo.

Oh, I know. I play slots and blackjack at casinos every now and then. I also do scratch-offs every so often, but I rarely enter Mega Millions or anything like that unless the jackpot is really up there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:39:48pm

Watching Monterey Pop 1967 on TMC and remembering all of this.

I am old…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:41:01pm

re: #353 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lincoln Project is a prime example of that

Combine that with potentially MILLIONS of traumatized and bankrupt former marks who contracted covid but survived, and the Trumpite traitors and their minions are headed for well-deserved extinction.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:41:05pm

re: #240 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Rank in file — I’m really tired of people who write by ear listening to people who can’t enunciate.

Grammarist and Merriam-Webster, among others, say “rank and file” is the correct phrase.

ETA: Never mind. You were complaining about someone else using “rank in file.” Sorry.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:41:37pm

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

Watching Monterey Pop 1967 on TMC and remembering all of this.

I am old…

It was an excellent festival, but I missed it because I was less than a year old. I wanted to go, but my parents said I was too young to go to festivals.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:42:17pm

re: #293 nines09

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JOE 🥓  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:42:31pm

re: #306 The Ghost of a Flea

Ghost don’t use the phrase “White Trash” on Facebook because Marky Mark will put you right in Facebook Jail.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:42:37pm

re: #358 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Combine that with potentially MILLIONS of traumatized and bankrupt former marks who contracted covid but survived, and the Trumpite traitors and their minions are headed for well-deserved extinction.

Forgot:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:45:53pm

re: #360 Punish Domestic Terrorists

It was an excellent festival, but I missed it because I was less than a year old. I wanted to go, but my parents said I was too young to go to festivals.

I used to go jogging with a young woman who was at Woodstock - as an 11-month-old baby

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nines09  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:46:05pm

re: #361 Teddy’s Person

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:46:46pm

re: #351 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:48:26pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:48:43pm

re: #360 Punish Domestic Terrorists

It was an excellent festival, but I missed it because I was less than a year old. I wanted to go, but my parents said I was too young to go to festivals.

I also did not discover the 60’s until they had passed, in the early 70’s they were already just an archaic echo of a past era. There were some underground FM stations in Chicago that still played classic songs and whole album sides late at night.

But I did not even discover Sergeant Pepper until five years after it was released. I knew the Beatles but only from the hits that made AM radio airplay

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danarchy  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:49:34pm

re: #363 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Forgot:

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Speaking of complicit enablers, didn’t Steve and the rest of the folks in charge of the Lincoln Project cover for or at least look the other way for John Weaver?

These aren’t good people as much as they are attacking your enemies

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:50:27pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

GOP Traitors didn’t want you to hear this.

of course, they are just protecting us from hearing the n-word because they know how traumatic and hurtful it can be…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 27, 2021 • 2:52:26pm

re: #368 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I also did not discover the 60’s until they had passed, in the early 70’s they were already just an archaic echo of a past era. There were some underground FM stations in Chicago that still played classic songs and whole album sides late at night.

But I did not even discover Sergeant Pepper until five years after it was released. I knew the Beatles but only from the hits that made AM radio airplay

I didn’t get into music at all until sometime in high school, at which point I took an interest in the music of the 60s. I was into learning to use brand new personal computer technology until that point, with no interest in the arts.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Jul 27, 2021 • 3:26:45pm

re: #351 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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