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-RetweetCBS: China, Japan, What's the Difference

Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 9:04:30 pm PDT

Professional journalistic standards are on display tonight at CBS News, where they don’t seem to know the difference between China and Japan: China Plans To Land On Moon By 2024, Top Scientist Says Mission Will Include Walk On Lunar Surface. (Hat tip: louminatti.)

UPDATE at 6/21/06 6:55:55 am:

Several readers have pointed out that not only is the flag wrong, but the shadow added by CBS is going in the wrong direction.

And that’s not all. This isn’t even the Earth’s moon. It’s Dione, one of the moons of Saturn. (Thanks to zombie for locating the exact photo.)

UPDATE at 6/21/06 9:56:15 am:

CBS has fixed the flag, but left the other mistakes uncorrected: What’s Wrong With This Picture? - Public Eye.

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1 RTLM  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:06:35pm

...but isn't that the Japanese flag?

2 TorchyThePenguin  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:07:15pm

Bwahahahaha

3 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:07:28pm

I guess they missed the memo where Japan lost in World War II.

4 bonz  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:07:36pm

And to think if they hadn't bought Willy they wouldn't have got a rocket off the ground. Guess it was worth it

5 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:07:46pm
6 right wing zephyr  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:08:15pm

a full half a century after we did it.

7 The Other Les  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:08:36pm

At least it won't be a kamakaze mission.

8 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:08:41pm
9 Pastorius  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:09:17pm

Dan Rather never would have made that mistake.

;-)

10 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:09:39pm

That's hillarious! Reminds me of a joke:

A Jew walks into a bar and sits down. He has a few drinks, then he sees a Chinese man and punches him in the face. "Ouch!" The Chinese man asks, "What was that for?" "That was for Pearl Harbor," the Jew says. "But I'm Chinese!" "Chinese, Japanese, what's the difference?" And the Jew sits back down. Then, the Chinese man walks up to the Jew and punches him in the face. "Ouch!" the Jew says. "What was that for?" "That was for the Titanic," the Chinese man says. "But that was an iceberg!" "Iceberg, Goldberg, what's the difference?"

11 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:10:05pm

But they're all, you know, asians. What's the difference.

/sarc

12 sugiero  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:10:23pm

Must be the 2024-flag.

13 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:10:31pm
#6 right wing zephyr
a full half a century after we did it.

The story is not that China plans to go to the moon, but rather that AP's graphics department doesn't know the difference between China and Japan and depicted a Japanese flag on the moon.

Pathetic.

14 ferris  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:10:48pm

Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Chineese bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
-Animal House
The CBS Version

15 Grumpy Tory Student  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:10:52pm

Come on, Charles. Don't be so picky. It's obvious that this map is Fake But Accuratetm.

Maybe it's all a dastardly plot by Karl Rove?

16 RTLM  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:11:06pm

William,

That Journo must have two degrees too.

17 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:11:06pm

Fake but accurate geography

18 right wing zephyr  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:11:07pm

#1,

It's RED, so who cares?

19 The Other Les  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:11:17pm
20 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:11:27pm

It's a good thing they've got editors, isn't it?

21 steve  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:11:27pm

Well, if they "make' it can we get arrest them for being on american soil without a passport or visa. We were there first.

But then again Murtha, Kerry, McCain, etal would probably be pushing for American citizenship for them.

22 Irene NYC  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:11:43pm
©MMVI The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Looks like our friends at AP don't know anything about Nippon either.

23 Buck  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:12:13pm

OT:
Mohammed Robert Heft, who claimed he never heard anyone advocate violence...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]


Jihadist video aimed at Muslim youth
Last Updated Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:12:27 EDT
CBC News
CBC News has obtained a copy of the video allegedly handed out by one of the Toronto bomb-plot suspects in the parking lot of a local mosque.
Bomb-plot accused are seen in a Brampton courtroom on June 6, 2006. (John Mantha/CBC)
Muhammad Robert Heft, a Canadian convert to Islam, said he was given a copy of the video by Fahim Ahmed, one of 17 people arrested on June 2.
The video offers a chilling glimpse inside the jihadist mind and is intended as a wake-up call to Muslim youth in Canada.
"Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah," says the voice on the tape, "and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of taghout, evil."
The Sept. 11 attacks are a central theme in the video, appearing again and again, not as a nightmare but as an inspiration. "America was struck within its homeland … and the youths of Islam invaded it on that great day. So the whole world was totally changed as a result of this blessed invasion."
That message was handed out in the parking lot of the Salaheddin mosque in suburban Toronto, allegedly distributed by Ahmed. The video is subtitled so that Muslim youth who grew up speaking English, not Arabic, could understand the narrator.
The star of the video is Osama bin Laden, who is seen urging Muslims to kill infidels. "Therefore each individual from amongst the Muslims should come forth to kill the Jews and Americans," bin Laden says, "for killing them is foremost of obligations and the greatest form of worship."
The 36-minute tape lists famous suicide bombers as martyrs and urges Muslims to attack the West: "In this stage you have to hit then run away and hide. You should hit on their weak points."
Returning to Sept. 11, the tape portrays the attacks as a triumph for Islam, calling them "operations that were successful in all measures."
That is followed by a desert rider, superimposed on the scene, who turns out to be bin Laden.
Heft's allegation that he obtained the video from Ahmed fits with a synopsis of the prosecution's case obtained by CBC News. The synopsis also alleges that Ahmed handed out copies of a video glorifying jihad.
Aly Hindy, the imam of the Salaheddin mosque, says he knew nothing of the matter, adding that he has no control over what people hand out in the parking lot.
[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

24 Sta-Puft  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:12:27pm

Ah, CBS News.

Courage will take you so far, then it will get you killed.

25 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:12:50pm

Charles, you may also want to point out that the shadow of the Japanese flag on the moon is going the complete opposite direction that it should be going. The shadow is extending toward the sun.

Tragique.

26 Moonbat_One  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:12:53pm

Morons

27 FredWM  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:13:19pm

Yes. the Chinese flag they want is the one with a large star in its upper-left hand corner and four smaller stars to its right, on a red background.

28 right wing zephyr  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:13:23pm

#13 zombie,

The story is not that China plans to go to the moon, but rather that AP's graphics department doesn't know the difference between China and Japan and depicted a Japanese flag on the moon.

Pathetic.

Ooooh. In my rush to be #6, I forgot to notice that.

29 inkling  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:13:49pm

But Lucy Ramirez has proof that it actually is the Chinese flag!

30 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:13:53pm
#13 zombie 6/20/2006 09:10PM PDT

#6 right wing zephyr
a full half a century after we did it.
The story is not that China plans to go to the moon, but rather that AP's graphics department doesn't know the difference between China and Japan and depicted a Japanese flag on the moon.

Maybe by then China will have outsourced the mission.

31 twolaneflash  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:14:00pm

Militarily speaking, Luna is the high ground and confers advantage to its holder. We must get back to the moon. China cannot be allowed to succeed in the militarization of outer space. We have already planted the American flag there, promising that our purpose was peaceful and for all mankind. That promise must be kept for all generations to come.

32 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:14:11pm

#19, The Other Les

Yikes!

Great photo.

33 Irene NYC  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:14:55pm

Just out of curiosity, does anybody know about when the Military Channel debuted?

34 ferris  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:15:25pm

Where's the press release from Think Progress condeming this stunt?

35 Laurence Simon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:15:35pm

I'd be shocked if that symbol isn't voted into the ICRC before the Red Crystal.

36 right wing zephyr  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:16:14pm

#30 LMAO

Perhaps it should be a UN flag?

37 mich-again  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:17:16pm

OMG!

Its 12:14 Eastern Time and the F*-up is still on their site. But it can't stay there for long. Sooner or later a phone will ring in the CBS webroom.

But then, true to form, CBS execs will surely find some aainine reason to defend the F*-up and blame the whole kerfuffle on the RWNJ bloggers.

38 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:17:18pm

CBS reminds me of a song,

Some of the words

Don't know much about geography
...
Don't know much about nothing at all
...

39 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:17:26pm

#25 zombie

If this were a high school photoshop project, they'd flunk. You're right. This makes the fake memo look like the work of pros.

40 Catttt  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:17:31pm

Comon. Pull my other leg too.

Why does the pic use Japan's flag?

Where are the globular clusters?

41 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:17:47pm

Will we be called "racists' for correcting them?

42 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:17:59pm

10 Earth2moonbat,

That reminds me of a joke:

A Rabi with a parrot on his shoulder walks into a bar. The bartender says, "where did you get that?"...And the parrot says, "Brooklyn, they're all over the place."

43 Tasty_Beverage  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:18:10pm

#25 zombie

the shadow of the Japanese flag on the moon is going the complete opposite direction that it should be going. The shadow is extending toward the sun.

Good catch.

44 right wing zephyr  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:18:17pm

You know, CBS/AP we fought with the Chinese against the Japs at one time.

We even provided them with oil and military equipment.

45 Seixon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:18:27pm

Sssshhh.
Nobody tell them.
Let's see how long it takes them...

46 ctrlL  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:18:48pm

"Here's to Charles, Lizardmaster of the Universe ..."

BTW, the info is here ...

Flag of Peoples Republic of China

(red background, large yellow star upper left, four smaller yellow stars in 1/2 circle around large star, etc. etc.)

* that's a TOAST folks*

47 ted  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:19:11pm

Dan Rathers gone less than 24 hours and already everything goes to pot...

48 Catttt  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:19:48pm

All your flags are belong to us.

49 TheMole  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:19:51pm

Charles, you're just picking on CBS, just kicking a network when it's down. If you were really fair, you'd include this classic graphic from CNN:


Floods Sweep Austria Off Map of Europe

50 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:20:24pm

#25, zombie

Shhh. We don't want them to actually get good at Photoshop!


---

"What the hell kind of shading and perspective is that! Are you just whacking off in MS Paint!"

"Sir! No, Sir! No excuse, sir!"

/R. Lee Ermey "Basic" Photoshop Class

51 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:20:56pm

40 Cattt
I see the globular cluster immediately behind the flag.

52 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:21:19pm

#25 zombie:

Charles, you may also want to point out that the shadow of the Japanese flag on the moon is going the complete opposite direction that it should be going. The shadow is extending toward the sun.

Tragique.

Silly zombie, the moon landings were

obviously

faked (ask any good conspiracy theorist). CBS was just doing the prudent thing and anticipating that the Chinese would follow suit.

53 Tokyobk  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:21:28pm

Glad it was not a Chinese flag called Japanese, that would be ignorant and ominous.

54 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:21:47pm
55 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:22:02pm

Can't
Be
Serious

56 wee fury  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:22:07pm

What does this tell me about the CBS news?
Journalists -- None.
Fact Checkers -- None.
CBS -- Continual Bulls**t Station

57 calcajun  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:22:30pm

Fake, but accurate

58 Sicarius  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:22:32pm

LOL. It's not like China and Japan have centuries of animosity towards each other that would make such a mistake especially offensive... Oh wait!

59 TorchyThePenguin  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:25:16pm

I keep refreshing expecting it to be changed, but it never is...

You think they know yet?

60 mjk  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:25:22pm

I'm ashamed to admit that it took me several minutes to figure out what was wrong with the whole thing. Then it was, like, "Ooohhh, wow that's bad for a news agency".

61 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:25:31pm

That's not a Japanese flag...It's the future Commie 'Red Moon' Flag.

62 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:26:14pm

The geography expert must have been one of Jay Bennish's students.

63 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:27:16pm

62 solomonpanting
That is what I was thinking. Anyway, I was so intent on viewing the globular clusters I neglected to make note of that.

Hope youare doing well.

64 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:27:26pm

I think Charles is trying to slip one past us. Instead of the usual beach thread, we're stuck with a communist moon thread.

Lizards of the World, Unite!

65 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:27:37pm

It's just a Chinese stunt.

/Think Non-Progressive

66 Fight The Hypocrisy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:27:45pm

CBS must think "they" all look the same.

67 hithere  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:28:37pm

It's not the Japanese flag. It's the pin on hole #5 of Tranquility Golf Club.

68 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:29:10pm

#63 St. Pancake
Yep. Thanks for axin'.

69 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:29:16pm

Okay, so CBS doesn't know flags... that has nothing, nothing to do with its journalistic standards..

70 ctrlL  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:29:39pm

Not to worry, people -

someone from Reuters will give them a call in the morning ...

LOL

71 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:30:30pm

By 2024 we could have gone back and already built a McDonalds and a Holiday Inn Express ...

72 freedom rings  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:31:09pm

Naw, CBS is only being used as a pawn in the current round of nuclear brinkmanship. It's Japan's coded warning to North Korea that their lunar bases will retaliate in the event that that funny-sounding missile thingy gets launched. CBS has been duped (again).


/Surprised y'all didn't get it

73 steve  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:31:13pm

I don,t know if I am going to get trashed for this but I just emailed it back to AP.

74 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:31:26pm

#66 Fight The Hypocrisy 6/20/2006 09:27PM PDT


CBS must think "they" all look the same.

LOL ~

75 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:31:46pm

And Turkey has banned Piglet, now.

Turkish TV Boots Piglet (NYT, 6/19/06)

"Piglet may have a pal in Winnie-the-Pooh, but he has no friend in the state-owned Turkish television network TRT, Agence France-Presse reported, citing accounts in the Turkish press. The network, an arm of the government, has banned the Walt Disney cartoon "Winnie the Pooh" because Piglet is a pig; Muslims regard pigs as unclean, and Islam prohibits the consumption of pork.

"TRT officials were not immediately available for comment, but "Winnie the Pooh" has been seen on other television channels in Turkey, and the videos are readily available in stores. Employees of TRT have recently complained of increasing government intervention in TRT policy, and Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his Justice and Development Party are under fire for seeking to raise the profile of Islam in predominantly Muslim but strictly secular Turkey."

So someone was going to eat Piglet? I don't understand.

76 x-ray  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:32:25pm

#19 The Other Les
Never have wanted to change my computer background till I saw that. Thanks, Perfect for home or work.

77 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:33:01pm

I vote Dar ul Harb first prize for most effective sarcasm on this thread.

78 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:33:17pm

I just hope, sterotypically speaking, that the Chinese fly a spaceship better than they drive.

79 TorchyThePenguin  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:33:30pm

#71 Bubble Girl

By 2024 we could have gone back and already built a McDonalds and a Holiday Inn Express ...


"Thanks for the air tank. Are you with the space station?"


"Space station? No, but..."

80 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:34:08pm

Of course, if the Chicoms do send a man to the moon, the conspiracy theorists who said the American program was a hoax will totally buy this one, hook, line, and sinker.

81 ouray  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:34:44pm

But will they bring them back?

82 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:34:46pm

75 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)
Yes, we are all mourning this graven insult to Piglet. Our poster, Piglet, has not been around recently. I hope he was not driven to dispair,

83 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:34:49pm

uh, stereotypically

84 Irene NYC  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:34:59pm

Look, LLL's just are stupid beyond belief when it comes to "hard" subjects like geography (LOL!).

I once had to deal with this man a few years about the fall of the USSR. He had official papers to send to his ancient mother in Minsk and had pre-addressed the envelope to Minsk, Russia. I pointed out to him that Minsk was the capital of Belarus. He immediately became belligerent and yelled at me in front of 2 dozen people or so saying I didn't know what I was talking about. Standing firm, I told him to go home and bring me an envelope from a letter his mother had addressed to him. Funny, LLL's like to follow orders, because he did exactly that, returned about half an hour later and handed it triumphantly to me - only to have me point out that the return address was Belarus. As he was leaving, out of curiosity, I asked him, "What do you do for a living?" He turned back and said, "I'm a geography professor at University of ___."

This geography professor didn't even know what country his mother lived in. Is that stupid or what?

85 The Other Les  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:35:29pm

Must now go to bed.

Good night (a-ding-a-ding-a-ding...)

86 TorchyThePenguin  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:36:11pm

#78 solomonpanting


I just hope, stereotypically speaking, that the Chinese fly a spaceship better than they drive.

Heh. They're getting there in 2024 because they just blasted off today. :)


/that was the most racist thing I've ever said here

87 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:36:59pm

Good night, Les

Irene NYC
That is almost unbelievable. Unreal that a geo. prof. had no clue where his mom lived. "Sigh"

88 Promethea  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:37:09pm

#25 zombie . . .

Charles, you may also want to point out that the shadow of the Japanese flag on the moon is going the complete opposite direction that it should be going. The shadow is extending toward the sun.

Zombie, YOU should be an editor. The world needs more people who know how to look at things in a critical way.

/Former editor of high school yearbook.

89 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:37:17pm

ah...incompetence from CBS for all to see. amusing

90 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:37:38pm

84 Irene NYC

Pssst! "Belarus" is Russian for "White Russia". They aren't supposed to speak the "W" word on campus...

91 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:38:41pm

E2M

Lol! True, it is "White Russia". Is that now racist to say that now?

92 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:39:20pm

#81 ouray 6/20/2006 09:34PM PDT

But will they bring them back?

LOL~

93 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:39:51pm

Hmm. With the high-tech that Slick Willy passed on to the commies, I'd have expected them to be to the moon by 2018, tops.

(Speaking of commies, do you suppose that instead of the "Man in the moon," they have in North Korea the "Illustrious, all-knowing, all-seeing, master golfer, expert mixologist, karaoke overlord Kim Jong Il in the moon?")

Damn you, Hans Brix!

94 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:40:23pm
#86 TorchyThePenguin

Heh. They're getting there in 2024 because they just blasted off today. :)

And the left turn signal will be on for the entire trip.

(And no, that wasn't racist.)

95 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:40:38pm

If the Chinese stop to ask CBS for directions, they'll probably end up landing on the Sun.

96 UncleSam  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:40:52pm

By 2024, the Chinese flag will probably consist of the McDonald's logo.

97 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:42:04pm

All your moon rocks are belong to us!

98 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:42:40pm
#95 MSMediaCritic 6/20/2006 09:40PM PDT
If the Chinese stop to ask CBS for directions, they'll probably end up landing on the Sun.


Only if they land at night.

99 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:42:45pm

95 MSMediaCritic

If the Chinese stop to ask CBS for directions, they'll probably end up landing on the Sun.

That's all right as long as the do it at night...

100 Irene NYC  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:43:07pm

#90 E2M

84 Irene NYC

Pssst! "Belarus" is Russian for "White Russia". They aren't supposed to speak the "W" word on campus...

I know that and you know that BUT the U.S. Postal Service doesn't know that. If you get the country wrong good luck!

And even if you get the country right good luck (how many times have my packages clearly marked "FRANCE" go to somewhere in Michigan because they have the same postal code.

101 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:43:30pm

E2M
Solomon
ROFL

102 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:43:38pm

#61, Ringo the Gringo

It's the future Commie 'Red Moon' Flag.

Heh™.

Hongyueliang (紅月亮), the next province of China.

103 Northpaw  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:43:43pm

They've got the guidance systems, that's for sure.

And just 25 or so years later after being handed the possibly most key technological component necessary for landing on the moon, they plan on landing on the moon. In 25 years or so.

104 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:43:57pm

95 MSMedia Critic

Come on, let's catch a Moon Flight.. we can get cheap tickets to the Dark Side.. land's cheap!

105 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:43:59pm

Maybe its a bizarro world, where Japan won WW2, and The Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere extended from former British India to former American Alaska.

106 Promethea  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:44:03pm

Question to all LGFers . . .

Do we still call it Red China?

Or do we agree that China is now a fascist country that picks and chooses what parts of capitalism it wants to follow, except those parts that require the rule of law to be in place.

I.E. Are the modern day Chinese rules just a bunch of old-fashioned warlord/mafia types.

What do you-all LGFers think? Please advise.

Thanks,

Promethea

107 steve  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:44:09pm

If they go to the moon, would it be time to do this:

[Link: www.imao.us...]

108 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:44:38pm

100 Irene NYC

That actually happens rather frequently in New Mexico. Some people still have no clue that NM is a part of the U.S.

109 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:45:43pm

Hmmm. For a gander at what Prince Phillip might have to say about this space junket, please see his choice, utterly un-PC remarks at this link:

[Link: www.susannassoapbox.com...]

Erm, scroll down. ;-)

110 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:45:58pm
And even if you get the country right good luck (how many times have my packages clearly marked "FRANCE" go to somewhere in Michigan because they have the same postal code.

France in Michigan? That sounds like Hell.

111 ctrlL  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:46:20pm

Properties of photo = 2/28/05

Old photo is photoshopped by intern = oops

Reaction on LGF = 'priceless'

LOL

112 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:46:49pm

Of course you know by 2024 the illegal aliens will already be there too.

113 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:46:56pm

106 Promethea
Thinking theoretically, we can possibly safely say that the Chinese are still following the old Mandate of Heaven.

114 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:47:08pm
#88 Promethea
Zombie, YOU should be an editor. The world needs more people who know how to look at things in a critical way.

Uh -- how do you know I'm not an editor? It's just about my only skill.

115 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:47:13pm

#106 Promethea

Who cares? Fascism, communism, same thing. You either believe the state works for the people, or the people work for the state. No matter how you slice it, those are the two poles.

116 Irene NYC  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:47:42pm

108 St. Pancake

100 Irene NYC

That actually happens rather frequently in New Mexico. Some people still have no clue that NM is a part of the U.S.

Oh yes, New Mexico! That's the trendier part of Central American where they speak Latin, right?

;)

117 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:47:56pm
#104 Bubble Girl 6/20/2006 09:43PM PDT
95 MSMedia Critic

Come on, let's catch a Moon Flight.. we can get cheap tickets to the Dark Side.. land's cheap!

The problem with the dark side (of the moon, not the force) is that's where all the moonbats are.

That's why it's so cheap...

Still, it sounds like a great place to visit. OK, next flight, I'm on it.

118 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:48:04pm

Some people still have no clue that NM is a part of the U.S.

It is?

119 Promethea  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:48:37pm

#74 Bubble Girl . . .

CBS must think "they" all look the same.

As a child, I learned that Chinese eyes slant upward, and Japanese eyes slant downward. Or, maybe vice versa.

Anyway, I still haven't been able to verify this very simple test of whatever the test is.

120 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:49:36pm

N.b.: I don't think the blogger linked in #109 has a SENSE OF HUMOUR.

"If it has got four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it" -Prince Phillip at a 1986 World Wildlife Fund meeting.

121 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:49:57pm

#108 St. Pancake

Some people still have no clue that NM is a part of the U.S.

Or Alaska, or Hawaii, or Puerto Rico...

122 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:51:34pm

117 MSMediaCritic

Eeewww...

Moonbats from the dark side...

Creepy!

123 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:51:55pm

#77, Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)

I vote Dar ul Harb first prize for most effective sarcasm on this thread.

Sarcasm? I thought this was abuse.

124 Irene NYC  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:51:59pm

#121 E2M

And what about Guam, huh? Don't forget Guam.

;)

125 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:52:11pm
#108 St. Pancake 6/20/2006 09:44PM PDT
100 Irene NYC

That actually happens rather frequently in New Mexico. Some people still have no clue that NM is a part of the U.S.

La Raza (sp?) is trying to make this a reality... along with CA, AZ and more.

126 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:52:23pm

119 Promethea
Actually, Life magazine did a now legendary account of the differences between them after Pearl Harbor.Yes, I do own a copy of that as it is now a collector's item.

How to Tell the Japs from the Enemy

127 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:53:07pm

I'll be glad when Charles gets to the picture forum. I don't want to go off topic, but I am about to burst. The murder of two soldiers has me steamed, yet the democrats, socialist, communist, they are all the same, don't care. I guess I am already off topic. It was to late on the other forum where the subject was discussed. I am really starting to hate these people.

128 pat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:53:19pm

Try to order from a catalogue where I live. The operators consistently charge overseas mail, although that may be a constitutional no-no.

Under any circumstances, this shows how truly stupid these news -casters are. Arrogant fools who learn how to write, but know nothing of what they write. How many times have I read a science article where it was clear that the writer was an ignorant fool. And don't start me on economics.

129 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:53:40pm

120

You can say the same thing about Cajuns.

130 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:53:47pm

e2m,

Which side of the moon did you think would have bats?

131 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:55:10pm

Good morning everyone!

OT - 'Palestinians' declare war.

132 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:55:22pm
133 Sicarius  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:56:09pm
134 Promethea  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:57:01pm

#75 Lady of Shalott . . .

The network, an arm of the government, has banned the Walt Disney cartoon "Winnie the Pooh" because Piglet is a pig; Muslims regard pigs as unclean, and Islam prohibits the consumption of pork.

There nust be quite a list of "unclean food" that can't be used in children's books. My daughter's favorite book was about a grasshopper trio that played a charming song for lazy fairies.

Kill the grasshopper musicians and push a wall on top the fairies!

Allah lunaticabar!

Micky Mouse is not a real good food selection. Ban the Mouse!

135 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:57:30pm

But Mohammed said the moon is made of cheese...

136 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:57:49pm

130 MSMediaCritic

The side with caves.

True story: In a Seattle suburb, the local water utility started noticing high bacterial counts in the water. After inspecting the system, they found someone left a hatch off of one of the reserviors, and when they looked inside, there were bats hinging upside down inside.

Thank the lord for chlorine.

137 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:58:41pm

132 savage_nation

Great lakes?

138 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:59:07pm

133 Sicarius
That's it, lol!
I got one off of eBay!

139 Sarah D.  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:59:09pm

#136 Earth2moonbat

Chlorine is poison.

/moonbat off

140 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:59:40pm

135 Bubble Girl

What will the moon-god worshippers have to say about this? Are they going to blow up Hong Kong?

141 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 7:59:51pm
135 Bubble Girl 6/20/2006 09:57PM PDT
But Mohammed said the moon is made of cheese...

Are you doubting Mohammed, infidel?

/sharpening sword... but not too sharp

142 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:00:26pm

(AP/CBS): the mark of quality.

143 Earth2moonbat  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:00:41pm

#139 Sarah D.

Especially if you're a guanoorganism...

144 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:00:43pm

127 tommoon
Talk to Army Green since '92 on the Think thread.

145 George guy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:01:31pm

A better picture would be a picture of a spaceman wearing one of those big hats normally reserved for rice farmers.

146 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:02:57pm

"These blast points... too accurate for Sand People, only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise."
--Obi-wan Kenobi

147 Irene NYC  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:03:31pm

Must.Go.To.Sleep.

Good night all.

148 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:03:43pm

#146 Dar ul Harb 6/20/2006 10:02PM PDT

This isn't the moon we're looking for...

149 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:04:01pm

Mohammed said one day we build a rocket ship that will fly all the way to the Moon...

150 Sarah D.  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:04:02pm

#143 Earth2moonbat

Thought:

Remove all sanitation that includes chemicals from moonbat infested cities.

San Francisco comes to mind.

151 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:04:39pm

Nite, Irene!

152 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:04:41pm

So goodnight Irene...

153 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:05:39pm

And when we land upon the Moon we will harvest the Goat Cheese..

154 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:05:43pm

Bubble Girl,

Did he say anything about coming back?

155 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:05:47pm

#129 Ed Mahmoud abu etc...

You can say the same thing about Cajuns.

Us Cajuns aren't as long winded. We just say, "a Cajun will eat anything that don't eat him first."

Covers all the bases as it were.

You are coming to the BBQ, aren't you?

156 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:07:06pm

Bubble Girl,

All those goats could make a lot of guys...

oh never mind. That's sick.

157 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:08:05pm
#145 George guy 6/20/2006 10:01PM PDT
A better picture would be a picture of a spaceman wearing one of those big hats normally reserved for rice farmers.

Or else the Ghanian soccer player waving the Israeli flag.

158 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:08:30pm

154 MSMedia Critic

Mohammed said to build a giant Trebuchet...

159 Dianna  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:08:45pm

I just saw this post.

Oh, my. Oh, dear. Oh, that's just stupid. How about those multiple levels of fact checking?

160 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:09:43pm

159 Dianna
Yeah, how many people checked before it was put online? Geez...

161 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:10:04pm
162 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:10:51pm

This just in:

CBS plans live coverage of the landing, just as soon as they can ask retired veteran newsman Walter Cronkite where the Moon is located...

163 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:11:02pm
#159 Dianna 6/20/2006 10:08PM PDT
I just saw this post.

Oh, my. Oh, dear. Oh, that's just stupid. How about those multiple levels of fact checking?

Yeah, you'd think it would have raised a red flag.

164 Quella  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:11:38pm

My opinion on missile defense: It costs a hell of a lot of money, however, in a day and age of Iran possibily getting nukes, and North Korea already possessing nukes, we would be remiss to not pursue this, despite the cost.

165 really grumpy big dog johnson  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:11:57pm

That may be the single worst Photoshop job I've ever seen.

Talk about an ironic tribute to Rathergate!

I've seen it all now. Charles will post the throbbing memo shortly...

:)

166 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:12:06pm

Bubble Girl,

I would settle for an office size trebuchet. Some people have the most annoying ring tones. And they are usually the ones who leave their cell phones at their desks while they go off somewhere...

167 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:12:22pm

155 Bordm


Us Cajuns aren't as long winded. We just say, "a Cajun will eat anything that don't eat him first.

must.not.comment.

168 Quella  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:12:33pm

Oops, wrong thread, lol.

Anyway, as far as this thread goes...

I often read the NY Times correction page. Some of the most hilarious things are found there.

169 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:13:15pm

#148, MSMediaCritic

"I've got a bad feeling about this."

170 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:14:15pm

#166 MSMediaCritic 6/20/2006 10:12PM PDT


Bubble Girl,

I would settle for an office size trebuchet. Some people have the most annoying ring tones. And they are usually the ones who leave their cell phones at their desks while they go off somewhere...

I would like one on my car...

171 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:14:22pm

#169 Dar ul Harb 6/20/2006 10:13PM PDT

That's not a moon...

172 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:14:59pm

RGBDJ,

Charles will post the throbbing memo shortly...

Quick! Sombody make an animated gif with the real Chinese flag alternating with the CBS version!

You know you want to!

173 The Green Hornet  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:15:01pm

The orbiter is due to stay in space at least a year and record images of the lunar surface, study lunar microwaves, the distribution of usable metals, and the thickness of lunar soil.

I get the feeling those dastardly Chinese are obviously planning on extracting large amounts of lunar rocks to sell at ridiculously low prices and flood US markets with

174 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:15:46pm
I would like one on my car...

But they are so hard to load on the highway (unless you have a gunner).

175 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:16:05pm

...it's a sushiriya!

176 really grumpy big dog johnson  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:17:18pm

Bordm,

You Cajuns are all alike, talkin bs while smilin on the backside.

If I come, will you make me some special gumbo?

Last time I was in Dulac, I had the best crab boil of my life. Memory doesn't do justice to how great that day was.

177 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:17:39pm

173 The Green Hornet

I get the feeling those dastardly Chinese are obviously planning on extracting large amounts of lunar rocks to sell at ridiculously low prices and flood US markets with

LOL ~ I will look at the Futures market and see what the current price Moon Rocks are selling...

178 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:18:06pm

In honor of Zombie, I have a song to dedicate to CBS...

I'm being followed by a Moon Shadow, Moon Shadow, Moon Shadow...

-Cat Stevens aka Yusuf Islam

179 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:18:13pm

This is great! (I can say that, because I didn't write it - I just linked to it).

Let the dead bury their dead.

180 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:19:20pm

#167 Bubble Girl

must.not.comment.

/jiggles line to see if fish will take bait.

181 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:19:44pm

#174 MSMediaCritic 6/20/2006 10:15PM PDT

I would like one on my car...
But they are so hard to load on the highway (unless you have a gunner).

Well, there you go.. it's a two man operation. Kind of reminds me of The Road Warrior for some reason.

182 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:21:01pm

#180 Bordm 6/20/2006 10:19PM PDT

#167 Bubble Girl

must.not.comment.

/jiggles line to see if fish will take bait.

I see a bad moon risin...

183 HypnoToad  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:22:35pm

Might I delicatly point out that based on this photoshop, that the Chinese/Japanese seem to be going to one of SATURN's moons. It certainly isn't Luna. (probably Tethys or Enceladus, I need to check)

184 kafir  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:22:41pm

Ah. China plans to relocate Japan to the moon. Would make their plans easier I guess.

185 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:24:05pm

That must be one pretty big flag they got there. Either that, or the moon got a lot smaller.

186 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:24:37pm

184 kafir
A new home for the Palis?

187 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:25:17pm

Let's make a list of all the things they got right on the photo.

...


All done.

188 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:25:27pm

Bubble Girl

I see trouble on the way, so don't go out to night..

I bought a mp3 player at NEX yesterday, thought I could hear it when I was riding the Harley. Not possible not enought volume for that.

189 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:25:57pm

OT: Freinds new cat

[Link: smg.photobucket.com...]

190 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:27:08pm

Let's see who can get this one. What was the first satellite to successfully orbit the earth called?

191 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:27:50pm

Sputnik?

192 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:27:51pm

189 Jewels (AKA Julian)
Hi there! That is a darling one, Jewels. :)

193 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:29:16pm

#183, Hypnotoad

You're probably right. It's not our moon.

That large chevron feature at left gives it away.

194 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:29:21pm

#176 really grumpy big dog johnson

If I come, will you make me some special gumbo?

There will be plenty of the best jambalaya you ever tasted, made by the same person who made last years batch. As to the gumbo, what kind do you want? We can make, gator, garfish, crawfish, possum, racoon, nutria, mountain oyster, or if you prefer the more traditional. We can have chicken and sausage or seafood gumbo.

195 big L  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:29:53pm

Once again the reporters are hanging out in the "Green Zone", letting the Chinese stringers supply the story...

196 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:29:58pm

191 tommoon
Very good.

197 DirtyDog  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:30:30pm

This reminds me of the last time the Shuttle landed out at Edwards. At a press conference, they guy was talking about how the shuttle would be transported back to Florida on the 747 shuttle carrier. One obviously brilliant press bimbette actually asked if the shuttle had LANDED on the 747.

I think back to college, and all the journalism majors I knew... yup, looks like she was in the same group.

198 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:31:02pm

188 tom moon

Aloha ~~

I know nothing about MP3 players.. perhaps someone on here can recommend one that will work on a Harley...

199 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:31:57pm

#191 Tommoon

WRONG! It's called the moon. You should be ashamed of yourself, with your nic -- and St. P., I am so disappointed.

I used that as a bonus question on a quiz for my physics class. Only one person got it right. So don't feel too bad.

200 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:32:39pm

#192 St Pancake

she's 8 weeks old and very sweet. chases he tail lots

201 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:32:39pm

194 Bordm

Can you make me some Cajun Barbeque Shrimp?

202 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:33:09pm

#182 Bubble Girl

I see a bad moon risin...

It's a big spotlight.

/night fishing

203 Army Green since '92  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:34:03pm

Dave Barry's great humor writing about American ignorance of geography, grammar, and knowledge past the town limits never failed to make me smile. Just like this joke of a photo.

Could this have been a hack job?

Are they REALLY so poor at editing that this slipped by?

Charles,

May I suggest a banner?

Dog Craving Doughnuts Blamed for Fire

204 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:34:17pm

MSMedia Critic

Now you have my curiosity...

Are you ___?

205 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:34:34pm

199 MSMediaCritic
?
Sputnik was the first, yes? Hell!
State the question again, please.

206 twolaneflash  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:36:06pm

This is the "Dark Side Of The Moon":

www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/dsotm/content/setup.html

207 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:36:51pm

#199

Ok, is the moon a satellite? According to Chinese ancient history the earth rotates around the moon.

208 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:37:23pm
190 MSMediaCritic 6/20/2006 10:27PM PDT
Let's see who can get this one. What was the first satellite to successfully orbit the earth called?

The first satellite to successfully orbit the earth was the Moon! Sputnik didn't come around until several million years later.

209 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:38:03pm

Oh, I found that Life magazine on eBay, for any trivia freaks out there.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Life-Dec-22-1941-US-goes-to-Wa r-Nazis-in-Russia_W0QQitemZ7042057237QQcategoryZ28 0QQcmdZViewItem
This is the one which has the article on "How to Tell the Japs from Your Enemies".

It has great ads too, btw. It also shows airplanes of the time etc.

210 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:38:33pm

#204 Bubble Girl 6/20/2006 10:34PM PDT

Do I get to fill in that blank?

211 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:38:43pm

#202 Bordm 6/20/2006 10:33PM PDT

#182 Bubble Girl

I see a bad moon risin...

It's a big spotlight.

/night fishing

Did you know that I have been alligator gar bowfishing at night in a flat bottom boat wearing a headlamp? Fun running up in the brush thick with cottonmouths...

212 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:40:05pm

210 MSMedia Critic

Of course.

213 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:40:33pm

#183, Hypnotoad

Good catch. I think it's Tethys, but I haven't found the matching image yet.

This one's
got a different sun angle.

214 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:40:34pm

208 MSMediaCritic
Lol! Trick queston, prof!

"going back to lurk at eBay"

215 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:40:39pm

#201 Bubble Girl

Can you make me some Cajun Barbeque Shrimp?

I imagine we can toss a few of them on the grill for you, if you don't like the brisket.

216 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:41:55pm

#208 MSMediaCritic 6/20/2006 10:37PM PDT


190 MSMediaCritic 6/20/2006 10:27PM PDT
Let's see who can get this one. What was the first satellite to successfully orbit the earth called?
The first satellite to successfully orbit the earth was the Moon! Sputnik didn't come around until several million years later.

But Mohammed said the Sun revolves around Allah...

217 Army Green since '92  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:44:07pm

The question about the first satellite is unfair.

First natural satellite or first man-made satelite?

Most people, IMHO, don't consider the more universal definition of satellite meaning
a : a celestial body orbiting another of larger size b : a manufactured object or vehicle intended to orbit the earth, the moon, or another celestial body


I'm not nit-picking (much) just offering some additional info. OTTH unless specified, definitions should be most universal meaning that Luna is the first satellite.

Mental gymnastics and a good cup of joe = fine start to day

/gotta run though, it's morning meeting time.

218 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:44:16pm

Search Dictionary:

sat·el·lite (stl-t) KEY

NOUN:

Astronomy: A celestial body that orbits a planet; a moon.
Aerospace: An object launched to orbit Earth or another celestial body.

Ok I see two difinitions.

219 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:46:22pm

All right, I'll give you a chance to redeem yourselves and prove how really smart you are.

What is the name of the star closest to the earth? (We're talking celestial bodies here -- not actors and such).

220 RTLM  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:47:34pm

Sol

221 twolaneflash  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:47:52pm

These lyrics from Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon" were written specially for:

Sarah D and rightymouse

"Brain Damage
(Waters) 3:50

The lunatic is on the grass.
The lunatic is on the grass.
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs.
Got to keep the loonies on the path.

The lunatic is in the hall.
The lunatics are in my hall.
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more.

And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

The lunatic is in my head.
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane.
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There's someone in my head but it's not me.

And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear.
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

"I can't think of anything to say except...
I think it's marvelous! HaHaHa!"

222 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:49:08pm

219 MSMediaCritic
Sun?

223 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:49:33pm

220 RTLM
Poo! You beat me.

224 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:49:36pm

Army Green since '92

Keep your head down and remember, come home alive. Vietnam veterans are pulling for you and always will.

225 Sarah D.  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:50:24pm

#221 twolaneflash

What is your point dumbass?

226 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:52:24pm

No idea, Sarah.

227 Sarah D.  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:53:05pm

tommoon,

I can't get to the link you gave me. I have my brother here, and am ready to find a way to bring him home.

Can you post it again?

228 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:53:07pm

Ok, a trivia from me.

Name one of the original members of the Gas House Boys?

229 somaking  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:53:18pm

all look same
[Link: www.alllooksame.com...]

230 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:53:22pm

RTLM: Very good

St. P: Honorable Mention

People who wouldn't answer Proxima Centauri -- Ha! Only three from my class got that one right. After I collected the quizzes, I gave them a clue -- "It's the only star visible during the day" -- most of them got it then but one said "there aren't any stars visible during the day!"

Derisive laughter followed.

231 Yankee Division Son  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:54:09pm

Oh come'on... they made a minor mistake. That doesn't change the fact it's Bush's fault.

/Dan Rather Off

232 RTLM  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:54:12pm

I'm chock full of inane trivia...

try me

233 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:54:27pm

#228 St P

Dizzy Dean?

235 neocon hippie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:55:24pm

If such an error occurred in any form of conservative media, those responsible would be immediately denounced as racist, insensitive, orientalist, etc.

236 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:55:36pm

#211 Bubble Girl

I've only bow fished alligator gar during the day. We used headlamps to hunt rabbits, raccoons and dee... errr, ummm, scratch that. We only hunted rabbits and raccoons at night. I don't have any idea how those double aught buck or slug shells got in my shell bag. That's my story and I'm sticken' to it!

/Is the game warden gone?

237 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:55:53pm

233 fluffy
Yay, along with Frisch and the Dean brothers.

238 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:55:59pm

RTLM,

Who was the first president of the US?

239 Sarah D.  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:56:47pm

tommoon,

I'll check tomorrow. Bedtime.

Thanks, and bless you.

240 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:57:10pm

St. P.

Wasn't that the Gas House GANG?

/I'm so confused...

241 HypnoToad  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:57:17pm

#219 MSMediaCritic

I ask this one all the time of my elementary school planetarium groups. Happily, they always get it right!

242 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:58:34pm

Sarah d

This one [Link: www.lic.eustis.army.mil...]

243 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:58:35pm

BTW, the tropical depression (NAM) or almost a tropical depression but just a tropical wave (GFS) may add extra moisture to the stalled frontal boundary that will dump flooding rains somewhere in the Mid-Atlantic or Northeast (a little early to pin it down) next weekend and early next week.

244 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:58:44pm

#237 St P

Didn't want to mention Daffy, lest he be confused for a cartoon character. Wouldn't want to be responsible for any scorched embassies.

245 fat.elvis  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:59:37pm

I have to keep going back to this link to believe my eyes. Look - I work with a lot of Bush-hating graphic designers who wouldn't know the flag of Japan from the flag of China from their ass from a whole in the ground. But I fully admit there are 20 million blindly Bush-lovin' (government-schooled *cough* "I'm OK-you're OK") red state kids out there you could say the same thing about regarding geography skills... not all of them mind you.

But that doesn't excuse CBS from having someone at the helm with just a modicum of fact-checking or editiorial oversight... no wait... maybe I shouldn't be surprised... we've been through this before eh?

246 storagemanager  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 8:59:41pm

say what ?

247 honest scrutiny  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:00:02pm

OT: pardon me if this has been brought up already

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- A 14-year-old girl who says she was sexually assaulted by another user of MySpace.com sued the social networking Web site Monday, claiming it does not take sufficient steps to protect underage members.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

The suit alleges that MySpace has "absolutely no meaningful protections or security measures to protect underage users."

In the old days those protective measures were sometimes called RESPONSIBLE PARENTS.

248 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:00:13pm

This player showed his bravery by capturing the title of Cy Young Award for four consecutive years.

Who is this player?

Fluffy
Either term is used.

249 RTLM  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:01:58pm

#238 MSMediaCritic

G.W. (Bush)

250 fat.elvis  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:02:05pm

yes I realize I mistyped "hole" :) as in "ass from a hole in the ground"

251 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:02:05pm

244 fluffy

We loved the Dean brothers, didn't we?

252 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:02:43pm

St. P.

Greg Maddux, of the BRAVEs

Early 90's, wasn't it?

253 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:02:44pm

Wish we could have a trivia competition between Kos and us.

254 twolaneflash  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:02:56pm

#225 Sarah D

You're the self-proclaimed genius here! You figure it out. No calculus required.

255 cali white bear  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:03:07pm

i'm sure this has been mentioned but it bears repeating: How many picture editors and screen shot editors and other program staff had to look at this and nobody figured it out?

its possible that the entire newsroom saw it in advance of it going on the air.

these cbs people have to be 20-something weed merchant leftoids of the type who can instantly recognize a vietcong flag,
but they dont know japan from china.

outstanding.

256 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:03:13pm

252 MSMediaCritic
Heck, it was Maddox!

257 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:03:37pm

#238 MSMediaCritic


Not aimed at me but, John Hanson

258 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:04:13pm

This pitcher for the Rangers was studying medicine off-season and was able to save a fan's life when the man had a heart attack.

259 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:05:39pm

Actually, the first president of the US was a guy by the name of Hansen, under the Articles of Confederation. Yes, there was a president then, too.

St. P., a trivia competition between Kos and us? Our feet would get sore from kicking their butts.

260 RTLM  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:05:59pm

Today's New Trivia:

What European country is about to cede a region of itself to a leftist movement?

261 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:06:06pm

#251 St P

Jimmy invented sausage!

262 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:07:41pm

259 MSMediaCritic

Lol, we would

Are we discussing Catalonia?

263 Da_Beerfreak  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:07:48pm
#238 MSMediaCritic 6/20/2006 10:55PM PDT
RTLM,

Who was the first president of the US?


John Hancock under the Articles of Confederation. Before the Constitution was written in 1789.

264 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:08:11pm

Dizzy rocked, fluffy!

265 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:08:12pm

#254 twolaneflash

If you are going to attack someone on the board at least make it plain what the attack is about. I guess I must have missed something and I do love Pink Floyd. Sarah D is gone so I will ask, what is your point?

266 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:08:32pm
267 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:09:14pm

#258 St. P.

I believe it was Doc Medich.

268 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:09:47pm

Are we giving up on my baseball question?

269 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:10:21pm

267 MSMediaCritic
Gosh, you little baseball rock and roller!

270 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:11:33pm

Yeah, we could kick DU and KOS easily on any trivia compitition. Woohoo! We rock and roll!

Heck, we kick their as_ on anything, period.

271 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:12:53pm

What set of brothers hit the most home runs (total) in their careers?

272 RTLM  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:13:03pm

#262 St. Pancake


Are we discussing Catalonia?

Best argument against Multiculturalism I've seen.

273 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:13:15pm

Still there at 2:11 AM Eastern.

I'm convinced that the Japanese are going to land on Saturn's moon Tethys, not too far from that chevron feature called Ithaca Chasma...

Time for bed. Maybe someone can find the right picture of Tethys by morning.

274 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:13:19pm

BINGO! ! !

It is not a picture of Earth's moon. And I have discovered what it is a picture of!

The Saturnian moon Dione!

100% perfect match.

This is hilarious!

The Japanese are sending a man to Dione!

275 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:13:23pm

Alou brothers?

276 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:13:36pm

#259 MSMediaCritic

John Hanson, American Patriot and First President of the United States
(1715-1783)

Six other presidents were elected after him - Elias Boudinot (1783), Thomas Mifflin (1784), Richard Henry Lee (1785), Nathan Gorman (1786), Arthur St. Clair (1787), and Cyrus Griffin (1788) - all prior to Washington taking office.

277 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:13:54pm

The Aaron bros.

278 Yankee Division Son  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:13:56pm

OT, DPRK

I heard the US activated it's missle defence system, did I just see someone blink?

North Korea seeks talks to ease missile tensions

"...We know that the U.S. is concerned about our missile test launch," Han said in a telephone conversation with Yonhap. "Our position is to solve this situation through discussions..."

279 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:14:26pm

Crap, maybe the Aaron brothers?

280 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:15:08pm

#276 Bordm

Very good -- and thanks for correcting my spelling.

Alou brothers: NO! Try again.

281 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:15:49pm
What set of brothers hit the most home runs (total) in their careers?

The Marx Brothers?

282 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:16:01pm

solomonpanting:

Very good. Hank hit 755, Tommy hit 10.

Sorry St. P. -- too slow.

283 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:16:58pm

277 solomonpanting
You win the prize
Yes, forgot about Tommy

http://zach.e53.org/archives/helentdevil.jpg

284 Carridine  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:17:11pm

Wow! Over an hour late to the party, and I'm the first to notice "...the country's ambition space exploration program."

Uh, well and good, I'll buy that, but a better space to explore might be OUTER space, instead of AMBITION space. Its too close to JEALOUSY space and HUMAN RIGHTS space. Not to be explored by Chinese.

285 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:17:39pm

Ringo The Gringo

So.. how bout those Chinese?

286 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:18:37pm

Double Bingo!

Found what is essentially the same photograph of Dione that is used in the CBS photo:

Dione.

PWNED.

287 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:19:13pm

#274, zombie

I'll be damned
, you're right!

288 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:20:47pm

Ringo the Gringo

No, No it was the Howard bothers, they were much better than the Marx brothers. They lastest much longer. Moe could swing a bat until the day he died.

289 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:21:13pm

Fake, and highly inaccurate!

290 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:21:22pm

This 17-year-old baseball star, struck out 15 batters in the first show of the major leagues in 1936.

291 RTLM  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:21:57pm

Zombie, Dar ul Harb

World's shortest internship

292 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:22:05pm

Hi, Carridine!

293 honest scrutiny  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:22:37pm

#286 zombie
you magnificent bastard

294 Yankee Division Son  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:22:39pm

Zombie, tooo funny, they can't get the China flag right, they can't even seem to find a picture of the [earth's] moon.

Are there no editorial staff? What the hell?!

295 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:22:46pm

Actually, Babe and Doctor Ruth hit the most as a sibling combination.

296 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:22:50pm

An even slightly better one -- practically a perfect match.

Dione -- same photo as CBS claimed is the Earth's moon.

297 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:23:04pm
298 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:23:15pm

#274 zombie

Great detective work! The craters match perfectly. Typical, they didn't get any of it right.

/msm on

Are you gonna believe your lying eyes or what we tell you?

/msm off

299 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:23:30pm

274 Zombie,

Damn, I knew you were good at identifying So.Cal beaches...but extraterrestrial landscapes?

You're good.

...or you're in desperate need of a social life.

300 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:23:42pm

#290 St. P.

That would be Bob Feller.

301 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:24:03pm
302 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:24:04pm

Bob Feller?

303 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:25:10pm

#287, zombie

PWNED.

(AP/CBS), all your base are belong to us!

You have no chance to survive, make your time!

304 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:25:17pm

#290 St P

Bob Feller?

305 Carridine  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:25:50pm

Me? I'm all in favor of Field-Testing our system. I have faith in it. I've seen (first-hand) the low levels of technological excellence the NorKs regularly achieve.

You leddy, Kim? We leddy to shoot down your Magic Zoom Rocket, Lil Kim. You can flummox Hans Brix, but you damn well BETTER BLINK when you call out the US, you tousel-topped twit!

306 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:25:52pm

Yes, Feller

Your prize
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,432290,00.jpg

295 solomonpanting
*smile*
Quite a combo there, though a bit frightening for Babe, maybe?

307 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:26:48pm

#304 fluffy

I lost the race!

308 Max DarkSide  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:27:12pm

Never ever put liberal arts majors in charge of or even report ANYTHING technical.

Never, never, never. They are so lost, so increadibly stupid that they never realize that anyone with half a brain will be falling out of their chairs laughing at them.

/tumble-clunk HAHAHHAHAHAaaa

309 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:27:29pm
310 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:28:07pm

One more trivia question:

What is the origin of the 21-gun salute?

311 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:30:09pm
#287 Dar ul Harb
#274, zombie
I'll be damned, you're right!

Excellent! An absolutely perfect match! You found the very photo CBS used.

Check and mate. Finito.

312 Carridine  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:30:29pm

ROFLMAO!

Can we accept this as benchmark, prima-facie evidence of MSM laziness, stupidity, ignorance, arrogance ('they'll NEVER KNOW...') and carelessness?

Japanese flag for a Chinese ambition, and Saturn's moon instead of Earth's?

Wow, these journalists really DO live in another world! Mweh!

313 rickl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:30:33pm
#274 zombie

The Japanese are sending a man to Dione!


I'm impress.

{grumble} Now if we could only get some people out of fargin' Earth orbit... {/grumble}

314 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:31:03pm

308 Max DarkSide 6/20/2006 11:27PM PDT

That's why it's always a good idea to read the newspaper while sitting on the floor.

Can't hurt yourself...

315 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:31:22pm

What pitcher hit two Grand Slams in one game?

316 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:31:22pm
317 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:33:33pm

I don't believe what I read in the papers
They're just out to capture my dime
I ain't worrying
And I ain't scurrying;
I'm having a good time

Maybe I'm laughing my way to disaster
Maybe my race has been run
Maybe I'm blind to the fate of mankind
But what can be done?

So God bless the goods we was given
And God bless the U. S. of A.
And God bless our standard of livin'
Let's keep it that way
And we'll all have a good time
--Paul Simon, ca. 1975

318 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:33:44pm

315 solomonpanting
Tony Cloninger?

319 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:34:07pm

#288 tommoon

Uh, oh, I loved "da boys" but quip for quip and LPM (laughs per minute) the Marx brothers kicked everyones butt in their day.

320 RTLM  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:34:08pm

#310 St. Pancke

At the time the tradition was formed in the erly 1800's there were only 21 states in the Union.

The salute remaianed then on for the President..

How many guns for the Vice President?

321 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:34:20pm

Maybe while the Chinese are on the moon they can stop by and see how the Viking landers are doing.

/Sheila Jackson Lee off (Or was it Maxine Waters?)

322 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:35:07pm

316 rayra
I do believe you are once again correct. The calculus thing is the hint.

323 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:35:07pm

'Night, y'all.

324 Carridine  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:35:42pm

Naval ships accepted 21-gun salute as highest form of respect, after potassium nitrate was introduced, to keep the men impotent, and keep the guns from firing...

Uh, waitaminnit...

325 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:36:13pm

285 Bubble Girl,

So.. how bout those Chinese?

When I was a child I had a Chinese doctor...His name was Wat Wong.

I kid you not.

326 Max DarkSide  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:36:15pm

I think that professional industry standards should exist that requires the author's contact information be included with any electronic published article so that comments and corrections can be directed back to them.

Comments: Like this thread... or maybe a polite "Hey dipsh*t, you did so many things wrong with one picture that it is completely incomprehensible that a mere mortal could possibly do that even with extensive planning".

327 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:36:24pm

320 RTLM
Actually, accounts vary, but I am going with the Army explanation. :D

Land batteries, having a greater supply of gunpowder, were able to fire three guns for every shot fired afloat, hence the salute by shore batteries was 21 guns. The multiple of three probably was chosen because of the mystical significance of the number three in many ancient civilizations. Early gunpowder, composed mainly of sodium nitrate, spoiled easily at sea, but could be kept cooler and drier in land magazines. When potassium nitrate improved the quality of gunpowder, ships at sea adopted the salute of 21 guns.

328 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:36:34pm
329 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:36:49pm

St. Pancake]

You got'er.

330 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:37:02pm

#320 RTLM

18?

331 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:37:21pm
332 Carridine  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:37:24pm

One.
In the face, from which he recovers.

High tribute. Democrats told me so.

333 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:37:28pm

17 for the VP

334 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:37:53pm
335 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:38:01pm

Oops, now it is 19 for the VP, used to be 17.

336 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:38:09pm
#325 Ringo the Gringo 6/20/2006 11:36PM PDT

285 Bubble Girl,

So.. how bout those Chinese?
When I was a child I had a Chinese doctor...His name was Wat Wong.

I kid you not.

I believe you. How funny!

337 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:38:15pm

#310 St. Pancake

War ships fired their cannon before entering port to show they were now unarmed and peaceful.

338 Max DarkSide  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:38:42pm

#321 MSMediaCritic

Maybe while the Chinese are on the moon they can stop by and see how the Viking landers are doing.



Viking landers?!?! You mean the Vikings were there first too!?

/Stupid AP/CBS reporter

339 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:39:24pm

Ringo,

When I was in grad school, one of my officemates had a student whose name was (not kidding) Phuc Chiu.

Don't know what happened to him.

340 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:39:53pm

Savage
There are so many explanations for that, it makes me crazy.

341 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:40:08pm

A fully loaded concrete truck.

342 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:40:30pm
343 HypnoToad  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:40:50pm

#274 #286 zombie

You got it. Its back to the solar system flashcards for me.

344 RTLM  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:41:04pm

Why always odd numbers for the presidential salutes?

345 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:41:04pm
346 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:41:05pm

savage_nation,

That was a standard length of cloth, was it not?

Max Dark Side,

Yup. It's true. They were there first.

347 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:41:32pm

So, to summarize the FOUR errors in the CBS/AP article:

1. Japanese flag instead of Chinese flag (hat tip: Charles)
2. Shadow pointing wrong way, toward the sun (hat tip: zombie)
3. Celestial body is not the Earth's moon at all (hat tip: HypnoToad), but rather is the Saturnian moon Dione (hat tip: zombie)
4. The word "ambition" is mistakenly used instead of the proper word "amnitious" (hat tip: Carridine).

The power of distributed intelligence.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

348 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:42:16pm

344 RTLM
Even numbers were considered unlucky.

349 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:42:22pm
350 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:43:15pm
351 Carridine  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:44:17pm
A more recent assertion is that twenty-seven feet was the standard length of a machine-gun belt, and that firing off the entire round was shooting "the whole nine yards." This is sensible in a number of ways- -the military is often a source for expressions of this type; it makes perfect semantic sense; the phrasing is reasonable. Most machine-gun belts were less than twenty-seven feet, unfortunately, and of course this phrase is not found specifically associated with this theory until very recently.

Does THIS count?

(Not past three...)

352 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:44:49pm
353 HypnoToad  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:45:29pm

#334 savage-nation

Wasn't that the length of a 50 cal belt in most WWII fighter aircraft. Coming back with ammo bays empty was "giving them the whole nine yards"

354 Carridine  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:46:16pm

Zombie: "Amnitious?"

Uhm...

355 RTLM  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:46:29pm

St. Pancake

An even number meant the Captain died on the voyage.

356 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:46:39pm

So the flag is wrong.

The shadow is wrong.

And the moon is wrong.

That's pretty much everything.

357 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:47:01pm

#331 rayra

That was my main question, why? No response from this person. We have our own little fights sometimes, but we always know what it about. When you know what it is about you can fix it. This goes back to the old trolls, they atack and then leave. Then they keep showing up until Charles figures them out. This looks like an ancient troll. They just never die.

358 Max DarkSide  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:47:19pm

#349 rayra

'b-b-b-but I thought that was Tycho! Don't fire meee'

Your Editor Boss-Guy: "It's ok, the photo is fake, but accurate..., well, close at least, um, sort of... at least as accurate as CBS documents!"

359 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:47:20pm
360 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:47:48pm
#354 Carridine
Zombie: "Amnitious?"

Yeah, OK, don't humiliate me.

Preview is my enemy.

361 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:49:12pm
362 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:50:08pm

357 tommoon
I remember Sarah talking about calculus some time ago. A new poster would not have known about that. Fishy.

363 twolaneflash  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:50:34pm

#265 tommoon

Bleed-over from another LGF post comment section in which Sarah D and rightymouse thought it would be fun to double-team me with name calling like she did here.

From Sarah D: "Idiot", "moron", "dumbass" used in each and every one of her comments to me, usually in multiples. Sexual comments ("Wet dreams for you,darling"). Passive-aggressive threats ("And you are a moron. Watch out twolaneflash, that muslim at the corner store might just saw your head off when you aren't looking. Idiot."). More name calling ("21 comments and you are some kind of expert? Pahleeze. Moron.")
Total lack of any rational debate, just throw the slime and hope it sticks. She loves to denigrate people's comments and call them names, and can't take it when it's dished back up to her.

From rightymouse implying I am a Nazi:
"Let's get those gas chambers cranked up then. Would that work for you? ...I figured you could be a good Kapo."
I've served in the U.S. Army honorably and my son is U.S. Army Infantry. Though only a recent commenter on LGF, Sarah D and rightymouse have easily recognizable pathologies (yes, I did go to medical school at Emory University School of Medicine). And as a veteran and a patriot, I won't back up from these women one step - no retreat, no prisoners. They defined their rules-of-engagement. Let the whining begin.

364 Carridine  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:51:09pm

#350- Savage: My father served with a buddy named Pete Peters, and after they finished their time, remained friends, and Pete and his wife had their first child a son.

When my father learned of the blessed event, and what Pete was going to name his boy, Dad RAN to the hospital, and breathlessly shouted:

"Pete, you CAN'T name him Harold!"

He was named Allan.

365 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:51:12pm

361 rayra
No idea, but this is fishy.

366 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:51:44pm
367 gonzo  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:51:56pm

#362 St P

New posters could be long time readers.

368 Max DarkSide  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:52:13pm

OT:

I think it's hilarious how the SPAM filters are good enough to drive the spammers to email pure jibberish anymore, just to get through. This one got through our filter, with a subject of:

FW: nnhwqdki ullmsutk xopaulimxz hdaftxpkwj !..

Ya, right. Is this is some sort of reversion to primal communications due to the advancement of spam-detection technologies?

Like, why even send it out?

369 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:53:58pm

#338 Max DarkSide

Viking landers?!?! You mean the Vikings were there first too!?

/Stupid AP/CBS reporter

Of course, Ali-Hum Bug the great great great grand father of Chris Columbus' muslim navigator led them there. When they sailed off the edge of the earth, he fired off the muslim designed bottle rockets strapped to the side of the long boat. The rest is history, according to Howard Zinn.

370 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:54:14pm

367 gonzo
I just found it curious that calculus was mentioned. Not usually one of the things you remember about a poster.

Oh, well.

371 honest scrutiny  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:54:29pm

i can overlook the "dione instead of the moon" and "wrong way shadow" things, but the japanese flag for china's flag is just another case of SLOPPY JOURNALISM.

at least in this case, nobody is being libelled.

372 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:55:32pm

369 Bordm
Ack! You mentioned that ahole's name!
"batting head against wall"

373 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:57:22pm

Ok, one more trivia.
Which president threatened to draft striking railroad strikers into the military?

374 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:58:14pm
#370 St. Pancake 6/20/2006 11:54PM PDT
367 gonzo
I just found it curious that calculus was mentioned. Not usually one of the things you remember about a poster.

There was quite a stretch (last year?) when Sarah commented quite frequently about her often frustrating calculus course.

375 Carridine  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:58:21pm

#366-Nation: I bow in your direction.
Learned something new. Trivial, but previously unbeknownst to me, IF its true.

376 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 9:59:57pm
377 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:00:12pm

374 solomonpanting
For whatever reason, I remember that too. I guess because I hated calculus. BTW, my teacher's name was Mr. Bates, and you can figure out what we called him.

378 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:00:41pm

twolaneflash

These things can be fixed. You should address it directly to Sarah D. If you are not a troll then I will apoligize for that. I have sometimes got mad here, but I addressed it to that person directly. It is usually resolved. If you are not talking directly to that person about the problem, then the rest of us don't understand what the hell you are talking about.

379 gonzo  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:01:34pm

St P

Truman...

380 attentionseeker  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:02:09pm

Zombie #25

Charles, you may also want to point out that the shadow of the Japanese flag on the moon is going the complete opposite direction that it should be going. The shadow is extending toward the sun.

This is probably the result of being photocopied through several generations to give it that 'lived in' look so loved by cBS editors and former anchors.

381 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:02:17pm
382 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:02:20pm

Tom
Do you know about Tech's Vietnam Archives?

http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/

383 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:02:22pm
384 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:02:56pm

#373 St P

Grover Cleveland?

385 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:03:24pm
386 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:03:31pm

ST pancake

I rather like this photo of the new cat
[Link: smg.photobucket.com...]

387 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:03:54pm

BTW, my teacher's name was Mr. Bates, and you can figure out what we called him.

"Show us again how to take second derivitive, Master."

"No, Grasshopper, you must learn to do it yourself."

388 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:04:10pm

384 fluffy
Sorry, but it was "Give em hell" Harry.

389 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:05:04pm

387 solomonpanting
*smile*
He must be long dead, but he was a heck of a teacher though.

390 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:05:19pm

OK, here is a scandalous and (to many people) completely astounding trivia question:

Which United States President said the following racist quote in the middle of one of his most famous speeches (a quote that has subsequently been quietly suppressed):

“I can think of no greater calamity than the assimilation of the Negro into our social and political life as our equal... We can never attain the ideal union our fathers dreamed, with millions of an alien, inferior race among us, whose assimilation is neither possible nor desirable.”

And no fair Googling it.

391 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:05:38pm

386 Jewels (AKA Julian)
Nice, Jewels. :D

392 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:06:07pm
393 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:06:31pm

I believe, Lincoln said that

394 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:06:44pm

Lincoln

395 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:07:06pm

Damn, Savage, you beat me to it!

"making fist"

396 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:07:42pm

I had to think whether or not it was Lincoln or Wilson. Wilson was so awful too.

397 gonzo  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:07:45pm

#385 St P

My testicles sucked up onto my body cavity upon viewing that.

/shudders uncontrollably...while jumping up and down.

398 twolaneflash  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:08:12pm

#390 zombie

Sounds like Abe Lincoln to me. He would have repatriated the slave to Africa if he could.

399 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:09:08pm

397 gonzo
*smile*

Hehe!

What a prize!

400 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:09:38pm
401 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:09:52pm
402 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:10:11pm

St. Pancake

Yes, I always get lost when I go in. It is hugh. I have submitted aritcles to them in the past. I have no ideal how I would find them.

403 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:11:07pm

#390 zombie

Wilson?

404 Carridine  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:11:21pm

#383-SaveNation: Your 100% score was probably THE REASON they dint call you back! Game show producers can't afford an eidetic memory player coming in and raking their sponsors over the coals!

Oh, and I was the first student in 47 years to ACE the anatomy midterm, when I was going for my doctorate... walk into the big room, 25 wax trays with 25 pieces of Calvin the Cadaver (and a FEW from Cathy) each with 2 numbered pins in them.

What, SPECIFICALLY, is pin #34 stuck into?

405 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:12:23pm
406 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:13:33pm

352 savage_nation 6/20/2006 11:51PM PDT

savvy_guy -- so maybe I wasn't all wrong (although I do like the ammunition origins better!). I thought I'd heard it had something to do with cloth.

:)

407 Bubble Girl  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:13:48pm

twolaneflash

Are you still practicing medicine?

408 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:13:53pm

Yep -- Lincoln. Spoken as he announced the Emancipation Proclamation. His plan was to free all the slaves and then immediately ship them all back to Africa. He had no intention of allowing freed blacks to stay in North America. The rest of the quote includes these lines:

"I have urged the colonization of the Negroes, (back to Africa), and I shall continue. My Emancipation Proclamation was linked with this plan (of colonization). There is no room for two distinct races of White men in America, much less for two distinct races of Whites and Blacks. . . Within twenty years we can peacefully colonize the Negro

The main goal was to repatriate all blacks back to Africa. He freed the slaves to facilitate this goal, not out of some altruistic principle.

Lincoln fans don't like it when any of this is brought up.

The only reason it didn't happen is that Congress would not fund the transatlantic transports. A few thousand were shipped back, then they de-funded the project becasue the Fed was in dire financial straights.

409 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:13:55pm
#398 twolaneflash


Sounds like Abe Lincoln to me. He would have repatriated the slave to Africa if he could.

Just as we could no more expel all illegals today.

410 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:14:15pm

people have commented that she seems sad in this picture

[Link: smg.photobucket.com...]

411 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:14:21pm

straights = straits.

PIME

412 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:16:05pm
413 gonzo  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:16:21pm

#410 Jewels

Or merely contemplating taking a dump in your shoes...

414 Clemente  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:18:36pm

Fixed it!

415 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:20:48pm

#405 rayra

And come in with such personal animosity? Reads like a recycled bannee. Seen / spotted enough of them already, and this one is matching that pattern so far.

/idle experienced speculation

/fixed that for you

I agree, sounds like a recycled banshee!

416 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:21:46pm

402 tommoon
Durn, had to reboot.
But yes, I would love to visit their archives. I am glad to hear you submitted articles there.

417 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:21:55pm

'Nite all...

418 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:22:11pm

#414 Clemente

No won-ton soup for you!

419 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:22:15pm
420 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:25:25pm

419 savage_nation
ok!

421 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:26:24pm

I too once nearly aced a game-show tryout: got the highest score that week by far. And I too never got a call back, for whatever mysterious reason.

I believe there were 34 questions, and I got 32 right. I forget what one of the wrong answers was, but the other one struck in my craw; I think the question was, "In Naval aviation, what is the smallest unit of command?" Or something like that. I guessed "Wing," but the correct answer was "Squadron," since a wing is composed of squadrons. Bigger still is a "group."

I never forgave myself for that.

422 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:26:30pm
423 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:26:49pm
424 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:27:03pm

St. Pancake

They are available on line. Once you get started, it is like the information is unending. President Johnson cabinet meetings, you name it it is there.

425 storagemanager  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:27:52pm

whats this thread about china tea?

426 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:27:59pm
#414 Clemente
Fixed it!

Subtle -- but brilliant!

427 tommoon  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:29:23pm

it it it it, I guess it is getting late even for me in Hawaii. See everyone tomorrow or later. I'm going to Saigon Aug 2.

428 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:29:26pm

Oh, hell!
I wish I hadn't searched for Wilson's quotes. I came across a horrible "Radio Islam" site. Crap!

Savage, I responded to you.

429 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:30:11pm

#409 solomonpanting

Just as we could no more expel all illegals today

True to a point. No reason why we can't expel the ones caught committing other crimes though.

430 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:30:18pm

Oh, great Tom!
See you later, and have a good evening.

431 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:31:35pm
432 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:32:01pm

Nite, Rayra

433 twolaneflash  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:33:22pm

#407 Bubblegirl

Not in private practice. I work for "industry" where I have access to greater resources for those in need. I am an HIV specialist, and am involved in every aspect of the disease state: research, testing, treatment, community outreach, physician education, political activism. Michael Glaser, whose wife Elizabeth founded The Pediatric AIDS Foundation, was my fraternity brother at Tulane. Elizabeth and their children died from AIDS as a result of her contracting the virus from a blood transfusion before testing became available in 1985; I started in this field in 1984.

434 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:33:22pm
435 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:34:55pm

Savage
We live and learn...

436 Carridine  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:36:20pm

#414- Well, SORT of... the shadow is still catty-wampus! And the moon is still a moon of Saturn, and China still has amnition...

My mom always said, Don't mock the hare-lipped.

437 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:37:02pm
#429 Bordm

True to a point. No reason why we can't expel the ones caught committing other crimes though.

Which I wholeheartily agree with as long as the native country is willing to punish the offenders accordingly and not just let them free. But not all ten or twelve or however many millions there are.

438 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:37:20pm
439 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:38:21pm

savage_nation
To be sure!

Ok, I am going to think of one more trivia question for you. Give me a minute to think.

440 honest scrutiny  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:38:23pm

Saddam's Top Lawyer Killed:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

441 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:39:28pm

U.S. or World history?

442 Clemente  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:42:10pm

#418 fluffy -

's ok, I'd rather have mom's chicken soup or beef stew any day! A not-too-close second maybe some steaming hot miso, with toro tataki sashimi and a crunchy roll, if we're goin' out. :)

#426 zombie -

Thanks!

443 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:42:37pm
444 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:43:01pm
#434 savage_nation

I too had similar missed opportunities. For example, I knew the guy who wrote the prototype code for what eventually became the Inktomi search engine. Had a chance to get in beneath the ground floor. Like a fool, I barely even knew what the Internet was at the time. I asked, "But how can this concept make money?" I laughed at them and passed at the chance.

Within a few years, they were worth hundreds of millions.

Sigh.

445 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:43:20pm

What was the Patrons of Husbandry better known as?

446 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:44:10pm

zombie
"sigh"

Now you are in the dirt with us.
"forced smile"

447 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:44:54pm
448 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:45:17pm

Cowpokes?

449 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:45:54pm

Ok, you got your prize for the evening.

Here it is:
http://www.resistances.be/images/arafat.jpg

450 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:47:25pm

Formed in 1867 by Oliver Kelly
First organization that focused on solving farmer problems
the earliest effort to organize farmers
they wanted a greater share of the wealth
major social organization
problem - boredom and loneliness
solution - Grange suppers and picnics
helped farmers keep up with rapid changes in technology and scientific agriculture
Panic of 1873 - drove 1000s into the Grange
Farmers' Declaration of Independence - July 4, 1873
new activist spirit
1875 - 800,000 members
mostly in the Great Plains (weak in the South)
organized Cooperatives - buy/sell bypassing middlemen
middlemen - farmers got less than 1/2 of city price
grain storage elevators
packing houses
insurance companies
rr (monopolies)
charged as much as possible
viewed as greatest culprit
produce cooperatives sell direct to customer
buying coops - purchase in bulk - equipment, household goods
building and owning their own facilities thus reducing their cost
grain elevators
warehouses
insurance co.
banks
most failed due to
opposition
lack of experience - poor planning
lack of capital
corruption
farmers sense of independence
The Grange entered politics - backing candidates for state legislatures and Congress
Granger Laws - state laws that regulated RR and grain elevator rates
1877 - Munn v. Illinois - grain elevators had prices set by the state
courts upheld - intrastate trade
established the principle that state legislatures had the power to regulate businesses of a public nature like the RR
("public's interest")
1886 - Wabash v. Illinois - attempts to regulate railroads through state laws
defeated by Sup. Ct. - interstate trade
only national government could regulate interstate trade
reversed or limited Munn

451 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:47:31pm
452 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:48:16pm

448 littleoldlady
"waving enthusiastically"

453 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:48:18pm
454 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:48:54pm

Here's a vaguely worded but very important multi-part trivia question:

What was the first definitive instance of intentional biological warfare; what was the religion of the perpetrators; and how effective was the biological attack?

455 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:49:59pm

454 zombie
That could be tricky if you really want to go back in time, you know.

456 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:51:14pm

Let's see
We have plague being introduced long ago.
Greek Fire is another example.

457 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:51:43pm

#455 St. Pancake:

It's pretty well agreed upon.

Hint: it had major historical significance.

458 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:51:52pm

"waving back, first remembering to put coffee cup down!"

:-)

459 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:51:53pm

or even poisoned arrows.
This could get picky, Zombie.

460 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:52:02pm
461 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:52:15pm

#454 zombie

Geoffrey Amherst, nominally Christian, distributed smallpox blankets to Indians in the Connecticut River valley. Rather effective, I believe.

462 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:53:17pm

#456 St. Pancake:

Greek Fire is chemical warfare, not biological warfare.

Your other guess was very close -- but you have to be specific and answer all three parts.

Year, location, combatants, results.

463 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:53:37pm

Long before that, Fluffy

It depends how you defineibiological though.

464 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:54:09pm

#459 St. P:

Poison is chemical, not biological.

465 Sleipnir  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:54:33pm

Apparently, the UN, meant as a forum in which sovereign nations coulod discuss matters among themselves, is now telling sovereign nations what to do with regard to educational policy and some of those nations are obeying this unaccountable, highly politicized, and corrupt body and persecuting their citizens on that basis.

In today’s Belgian newspaper Gazet van Antwerpen Bob Van de Voorde, the spokesman of Frank Vandenbroucke, the minister of Education, says:

“One of the conditions [for homeschooling] is that the homeschoolers must sign a document in which they promise to rear their children along the lines of the UN Convention on Children’s Rights. These parents have not done this. This is why the ministry has started an inquiry.”
The parents Mr Van de Voorde is referring to in the paper are my husband (TBJ editor Paul Belien) and myself. The “inquiry” is a threat to prosecute us.

Crackdown on Homeschoolers: It’s the UN Wot Done It

466 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:54:45pm

Chinese also were ancient masters of bio. weapons too, and in point of fact, they utilized arsenic infused smoke.

467 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:56:05pm
#460 savage_nation
Gee, my first guess would be Middle Age siege warfare in the First Crusade (tossing plauge victims over the ramparts), the perps were Christian and the attack was 50% effective.

Getting close, but you're still off. That didn't happen in the Crusades. But you're in the right vicinity, time-wise.

468 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:56:45pm
#461 fluffy

No, you're several centuries too late.

469 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:56:59pm

464 zombie

Doh!

Ok, bio and chem had me confused.
I am still thinking of the diseased bodies being thrown during the European Crusades.

470 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:57:15pm

#465 Sleipnir

I think Belgium is just looking for an excuse to bust his cookies. They hate Paul Belien.

471 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:58:12pm

Why isn't the Greek fire the first?
Or am I still confused over bio and chem?

472 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:58:39pm
473 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:58:45pm

#467 zombie

Can't place the incident, but I will take a wild guess about their religion...

Zoroastran?

474 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:58:59pm

Mongols also brought plague in with them.

475 Clemente  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:59:07pm

#436 Carridine -

Well, yes, you make valid points. BUT. The PRC's flag probably doesn't cast a shadow in natural light, nor is it visible in a mirror...such as the one that must have been just out of frame to the upper left (of course!) in the AP/SeeBS original. But I digress. This image is absolutely authentic and I'll stake the jobs of a producer and prime-time anchor on that!

476 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 10:59:39pm

Plague, if is believed, originated in Mongolia.

477 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:00:26pm

Durn, still confused over bio and chem warfare.

"dicing fruit"

478 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:00:49pm
#466 St. Pancake
Chinese also were ancient masters of bio. weapons too, and in point of fact, they utilized arsenic infused smoke.

Again, you keep citing chemical weapons. I'm talkin' biological. Keep in mind that humans didn't grasp the "germ theory of disease" and the etiology of epidemics until late in our history. So the concept of intentionally "infecting" people didn't arise for quite some time, because no one knew what "infecting" was or how diseases were acquired by sufferers.

479 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:01:06pm
480 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:01:08pm

#471 St P

Greek fire isn't really chemical

Nuclear
Biological
Chemical

481 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:02:57pm

zombie

1346 The use of bacteriological agents in an armed conflict can be dated back to 1346, at Kaffa (now Feodossia) where the bodies of Tartar soldiers who succumbed to the plague were thrown over the walls of the besieged city. It is hypothesized by some medical historians that the action resulted in the infamous pandemic that spread over the entire continent of Europe from Genoa, via the Mediterranean ports.

482 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:03:10pm
#472 savage_nation
Well then it must be the Mongol invasions.

#476 St. Pancake
Plague, if is believed, originated in Mongolia.

Yes! You are both getting hot!

Now you have the approximate time and place.

Specifics, specifics. Ya got only a couple more guesses.

Hint: changed the history of the world.

483 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:03:14pm
484 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:03:32pm

It was when the Jews introduced matzoh balls to society. Many deaths were the result...

I love it when somebody else makes the fruitcup! :-)

485 Clemente  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:04:16pm

#454 zombie

A Biblical, or possibly pre-Biblical plague, the perpetrator a righteously angry deity, the effectiveness absolute?

486 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:04:29pm

480 fluffy
Lol, Zombie is making me nuts.

487 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:04:32pm
#481 St. Pancake

1346 The use of bacteriological agents in an armed conflict can be dated back to 1346, at Kaffa (now Feodossia) where the bodies of Tartar soldiers who succumbed to the plague were thrown over the walls of the besieged city. It is hypothesized by some medical historians that the action resulted in the infamous pandemic that spread over the entire continent of Europe from Genoa, via the Mediterranean ports.

DING DING DING!

We have a winner!

488 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:05:52pm
489 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:06:59pm
490 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:07:57pm

484 littleoldlady
ROFLMAO!

Matzo was the first type of warfare used. An angry son tossed one at his grandparents, and it accidently hit one of the elders of antoher tribe, resulting in the first Matzo War.

Mongols then, ok.

Mongol empire was the largets land-based empire in history. It included (parts)Russia, India, and China.

Renaissance was one of the results of all of this, as well as the Crusades (Ren)

491 Sleipnir  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:08:47pm

To quote myself ...

I think there is evidence of their being dipped in rotting substances to induce infection.

Found a note on that:

Scythians [arrows] were tipped with a special poison of decomposed poisonous snakes and blood incubated in a manure heap.

492 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:08:52pm

Of course, eventually they became muslim

493 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:09:39pm

Savage
Vienna was later.

494 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:10:31pm
A Goy Eats Matzoh Ball Soup
A Jewish family invited their gentile neighbors for holiday dinner. The first course was set in front of them and the Jewish couple announced, "This is matzoh ball soup."
On seeing the 2 large matzoh balls in the soup, the Gentile man was hesitant to taste this strange looking brew. Gently, the Jewish couple pressed the Gentile man. "Just have a taste. If you don't like it, you don't have to finish it."
Finally he agrees. He digs his spoon in, first picking up a small piece of matzoh ball with some soup in the spoon, and tasting it gingerly. The usual 'mmm' sound can be heard coming from somewhere deep in his chest, and he quickly finished the soup. "That was delicious," he said. "Can you eat any other parts of the matzoh?"
495 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:11:15pm

And the little known detail that NO ONE wants to discuss:

The Tatars who launched the plague-corpses over the walls, thereby started the Black Death epidemic across the known world, were Muslims!

Janibeg:

Little is known about Janibeg other than that he was a Mongol commander of a massive Crimean Tatar force that attacked the Crimean port city of Kaffa in 1343. The siege was uplifted by an Italian relief force in February, 1344, resulting in 15,000 Mongol deaths and the survivors fleeing East. Janibeg returned in 1345 and besieged Kaffa a second time. The next year, however, the Mongols became infected with the Black Plague disease and gave up the siege. Before they left, though, the dead or dying bodies of the infected were loaded onto catapults and launched over Kaffa's walls to infect those inside. This incident was among the earliest known examples of biological warfare and is credited as being the source of the spread of the Black Death into Europe, devastating the continent over a three-year period and resulting in a maximum of 40 million deaths.

Crimean Tatars:

The Crimean Tatars adopted Islam in the 13th century and thereafter Crimea became one of the centers of Islamic civilization.

Biological warfare: another great Islamic invention!

496 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:11:24pm

487 zombie
Heck, am glad
The difference between chem. and bio throws me for a loop though, to be honest.

497 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:12:13pm

495 zombie
Yes, they indeed are still muslim.

498 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:12:51pm

evening Little Ol lady

499 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:13:50pm
#492 St. Pancake
Of course, eventually they became muslim

They didn't later become Muslim: they already were Muslim at the time of the attack!

500 Sleipnir  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:14:07pm

#495 Zombie

You can go back before that date.

A History of Biological Warfare from 300 B.C.E. to the Present by Thomas J. Johnson, Associate Professor of Respiratory Care and Health Sciences, Division Director, Respiratory Care, School of Health Professions.

501 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:14:18pm

Bubonic Plague epidemic, though not the worst epidenic, is one of the most significant events in history.
1. lead to environmental recovery of Europe.
2. lead to desire to learn more
3. increase in anti-semitism
4. decreased power of the Church
5. increased prosperity
6. led to higher wages as there were fewer workers.

ETC. ETC. ETC

Thanks, Zombie

502 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:14:36pm

WHOA. I always thought the Tartars were Jewish?!

/it's Tony Curtis' fault

503 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:14:57pm

I was speaking about the Mongols, and yes, they converted to Islam at a different time.

504 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:15:29pm

Howdy Jewels! What's cooking? :-)

505 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:15:43pm

Well, my matzoh cracks did not go over too well.
:(
Thought they were pretty good.

506 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:16:30pm

502 littleoldlady
*smile*

The tartars were jewish in the 1950's movies, iirc.

507 Sleipnir  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:16:31pm

#496 St. Pancake

The difference between chem. and bio throws me for a loop though, to be honest.

Thomas J. Johnson has a good definition on that webpage I cited:

What is biological or bio-warfare? It is the use of biological pathogens (bacteria, viruses, fungi, and toxins derived from living organisms to kill or incapacitate one's enemies.

508 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:16:34pm

#504 little old lady. This is what I've got

Thai Red Curry Sauce Ribs

Serves 4

2 lbs spare ribs (beef or pork)
4 Garlic Cloves, minced
2 tablespoons mined ginger
.5 cup chopped red bell pepper (roasted), Fresh or bottled
1 cup seeded & chopped tomatoes
.25 cup finely minced lemongrass leaves
zest from 1 lime, minced
.33 cup wine vinegar (I prefer red, but any will do)
.25 cup thai or Vietnamese fish sauce
.25 cup honey
1-2 tablespoons Asian chili sauce
2 tablespoons ground coriander
2 teaspoons crushed red pepperflakes (fresh)

1) to make this sauce, simply put the ingredients (without ribs) into a blender/ processor. Should make about two cups or thereabouts
2) coat ribs evenly with marinade. Refrigerate for about 15 minutes. Up to 8 hrs for more flavour to soak in.
3) grill in preheated grill at 325. Baste the ribs with extra sauce, stopping about 15 minutes before removing from your grill.

509 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:17:14pm

LoLady

Q: What's Jewish Alszheimer's Disease?

510 zombie  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:17:24pm
#491 Sleipnir

Very interesting. That may indeed be an earlier example of a biological weapon, though I don't know if it was used massively in warfare or just with individual arrows.

I'm sure that at various points in history there were some minor earlier examples of things that might be considered biological weapons. But the 1346 seige, with catapulted corpses, was the first "biological weapons system" with devastating effect.

511 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:18:39pm

507 Sleipnir
Oh, ok
Just a history instructor here. :)
I do adore learning about the history of medicine though.
A great book, now out of print, is The Fourth Horseman.

512 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:19:08pm

St. Pancake,

Change "matzoh" to "matzoh balls" and...you have a winner. ;-) Nobody died in the Matzoh Wars, but the Matzoh Ball Blitzkreig is another matter.

The People who invented those things are simply diabolical.

513 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:20:13pm

A: It's when you forget everything but the guilt.

ROFL, Lolady
You are correct, a poorly made matzoh ball could do some severe damage.

514 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:21:39pm

When you forget everything but the guilt.

(Is that it?)

/I feel really badly about it but I forget...

515 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:22:30pm

Once again, we have a seeker of that damnable Calvin Klein ad, Sleipnir.

516 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:22:57pm

514 littleoldlady
Lmao!

517 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:23:37pm

A goy asked Reb Moshe: "Why do Jews always answer with a question?

518 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:24:29pm
What a Country
Told in a heavy foreign accent...
Sam's grandfather is visiting America, from Europe, for the very first time. He goes up & down the aisles with his grandson, at the local Food Store.
"Vas diss? Powdered Orange Juice?"
"Yeh, Grandpa. You just add a little water, and you have fresh 'orange juice'."
... a few minutes later, in a different aisle ...
519 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:24:53pm

#508 Jewels,

My eyes are on fire! Is that as hot as it looks?

520 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:25:14pm

...

521 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:26:22pm

How did #520 get that way?

522 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:26:50pm
Und vas dis? Powdered milk?"
"Yeh, Grandpa. You just add a little water, and you have fresh milk!"
... a few minutes later, in a different aisle ...
"Und give a look here! Baby Powder! Vat a country, vat a country!"
523 fluffy  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:27:35pm

#521 St P

Are you getting Socratic on us?

524 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:27:36pm

Jewels
That recipie looks quite good. Great taste for Texas folks/

525 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:28:13pm

Little Old Lady.

Relatively speaking, no. But then I play with habaneros for fun

526 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:28:13pm

523 fluffy
*smile*
No idea how that happened.

527 Clemente  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:30:16pm

#508 Jewels (AKA Julian) -

Technical question, do you boil the ribs first? I've heard and tasted good arguments both for and against...

528 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:31:51pm

boiling ribs? bleh. I've heard of it, but I personally thing it loses flavour that way

529 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:33:14pm

As to earliest chem/bio warfare.

I always thought it was when the first guy that ate pickled eggs, drank beer and got home late, pulled the blanket over his wife's head after she nagged him for coming home so late. ;-)


Nite all, don't forget the 2nd annual LGF Texas BBQ is the last weekend in July. Send an email for details.

530 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:35:34pm

Hi there, Japan
Bonjour, Belgique!
Hello, Estonia!
G'day, Aussies!
Great morning, Brits!
Howdy, New Zealand!

Hi there, Finland!
Howdy doody, Canada!

Good day, Sweden!
Hi, Turkey

Tag, Schweiz!
Great Day, Israel!

Hi there, Irish Eyes!
Hello, Korea!
Howdy, Holland!

Hola Mexico y Miguel!
Hello, Brazil!

Hi, Cyprus

Tag, Osterreich!
Guten Tag, Deutschland!
Bonjour, France!

531 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:36:19pm

529 Bordm
Nite, and have a great day tomorrow!

532 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:37:48pm

Sorry, I missed you, South Africa
Howdy!

And you too, Espana! Hola!
Hi there, Romania!

533 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:38:40pm

#527 Clemente

Technical question, do you boil the ribs first? I've heard and tasted good arguments both for and against...

Only if the animal was old and meat is really tough. Otherwise, you just slow cook it.

534 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:39:09pm

little old lady. did you see the new cat photos earlier in the thread?

535 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:39:20pm
536 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:41:05pm

One more time, hello to Slovenia, Hungary, and India!

537 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:41:32pm

#531 St. Pancake

I'll be happy if it stops raining for awhile.

G'nite St. P

538 Clemente  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:41:54pm

#528 Jewels (AKA Julian)

My sense of it too. Maybe I'll try the pressure cooker.

And habeneros ARE chemical warfare! Or would that be biological? Either way, the ultimate Weapon of Miserable Discomfort.

539 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:45:00pm

You ain't kidding, Bordm
This rain is getting old. I heard parts of Houston were horribly flooded, but no one rescued us. Oops, should have not said a thing.


Hi there, Iran
Great day, Taiwan!
Great day, Indonesia!

540 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:45:09pm

Beef Ribs (a/k/a Short Ribs) are traditionally boiled. (No barbeques in the shtetl!) You run the risk of dying from boredom if you eat them, though.

Pork Ribs (especially country-style) can be parboiled with a little vinegar (to get the red out) and Old Bay (to put the flavor back in) so that you don't get overly hungry (god forbid!) while waiting for them to get done on the grill.

This last recipe is according to talloldman. He's the self-proclaimed "former goy" and family pig specialist. (What do I know?!)

541 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:45:58pm

clemente

try at a lower temperature for a while. keeps the meat tender. Also double foil seal the ribs to prevent jucies from escaping and drying them out

542 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:46:19pm

Hi there, Italia
I wish you were a single man, :)

Just teasin...

543 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:47:14pm

Jewels,

How did this thread get so long already? (Oh boy. Come 10:30 and it'll be well into the 1200's!)

About where are those cat pix?

544 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:47:43pm

Little Old LAdy

[Link: smg.photobucket.com...]

545 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:48:31pm

540 littleoldlady
*smile*
Do you mean Bay leafs?

I like those myself.

Hello, Russia!
Good day, Sri Lanka

546 Bordm  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:49:06pm

#538 Clemente

Wrap them in foil and slow cook them for 8 to 10 hours or until the meat starts to fall off the bone.

547 mineral  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:49:13pm

It is kind of funny that no one at CBS has noticed yet. How many hours has that been up there like that? I thought surely someone at CBS would have noticed it by now...

On the back of my Frosted Flakes box it shows the flag of England as a red cross on a white background. Not a Union Jack that I have ever seen. The "footy buddy" that came inside for free has this same mysterious flag on it. Maybe CBS and Kelloggs share the same staff...

548 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:50:28pm

Jewels
My fave is the chair pic.
Adorable!

"My Chair"

Too cute!

Best of everything to the soldiers reading this!

549 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:51:34pm

546 Bordm
That is the way I do them too.


547 mineral
Where are you at? That is weird.

550 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:52:08pm

JEWELS! You got a new kitten?! Ohmigosh. SO cute!

551 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:53:22pm

#550 little old lady

friend of mine got a new kitten. it'sa little doll. and that's me in the hunter stalks it's prey photo

552 mineral  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:54:20pm

To answer my own question, google tells me it is the falg of St. George. Curious.

553 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:54:30pm

Hi there, Poland
I love Sobieski!

and Lech Walensa!
and John Paul!
Woohoo!

Great day, Denmark!
Welcome!
Yay for Legos, Carlsberg, and you!

554 mineral  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:54:53pm

Flag

555 St. Pancake  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:55:10pm

552 mineral
Have no idea. Weird to me too.

556 mineral  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:56:36pm

I'm in America somewhere, going to bed very soon...

557 mineral  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:57:46pm

The St George's Cross, a red cross on a white background, is the national flag of England and was adopted for the uniform of English soldiers during the military expeditions by European powers to recapture the Holy Land from Muslims (Crusades of the eleventh, twelfth and thirteenth centuries), and on or about 1277 it officially became the national flag of England. After the personal union of England with Scotland a British Flag was created in 1606, initially for maritime display; however, the flag of England (as opposed to the United Kingdom) remains St George's Cross, and continues to be used when showing allegiance to England alone; primarily nowadays at events such as international football and rugby union competitions.

558 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:58:07pm

Jewels,

I thought I recognized your foot from one of your cat's pictures. ;-)

559 Mike C.  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:58:26pm

Good morning, dead thread.

# 545 St. P.

No - Old Bay seasoning.

560 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Jun 20, 2006 11:59:34pm

I will need to rest at this point...but enjoy the pics :D

561 Clemente  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:00:13am

#541 Jewels (AKA Julian) & #546 Bordm

Thanks, both! Foil might be the ticket, then. All this talk about it, now I gotta do some ribs. Wish me luck...

562 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:00:16am
Old Bay seasoning

.
That's a new one to me.

Okkk...

557 mineral
Thanks!

563 mineral  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:00:50am

I guess the back of my cereal box is more authoritative than CBS. Maybe CBS can hire the Kellogg's flag checker...

564 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:02:50am

Good morning, afternoon, evevning *everyone*!™

St. Pancake's delicious fruitcup is on the buffet --->
I hope she doesn't mind if I tell you to help yourselves!

565 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:04:12am

OMG! I forgot
fruitcup, yes,--->
Serve yourself
There is also hot chocolate along witht he coffee today.

566 mineral  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:04:18am

So the British soccer team actually uses the flag of the crusaders...Funny I haven't heard anything about that before.

Good night.

567 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:04:43am

Sleipnir
Are you still here?

568 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:05:12am

Nite, Mineral

569 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:07:17am

#562 St. Pancake,

What's a new one? Using Old Bay on pork, or Old Bay itself?

I will admit that for a long time I only unimaginatively used it when boiling shrimp.

---
evening, she meant to type. sigh.
been that kind of morning already...

570 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:08:16am

569 littleoldlady
I had never heard of it, period. Not sure why, or why not.

571 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:09:24am

Been that type of a morning?
Oops, should I ask?

572 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:15:02am

Huh?
World's Politest People? Poll Says New Yorkers

In short, four out of five New Yorkers passed the courtesy test -- topping the list.

So guess which city ranks last in the politeness poll?

Mumbai, India.

The rudest cities in general were in Asia, where eight out of nine cities tested finished in the bottom 11. In Europe, Moscow and Bucharest ranked as the least polite.

573 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:18:46am

St. Pancake,

I'm thinking Old Bay probably originated in New England and is taking its good ole time getting to Texas? ;-) It's not new.

"That kind of morning" = going upstairs to get another cup of coffee ... getting to the top of the stairs and realzing I didn't have the cup ... going back downstairs to get the cup ... cup's not there! ... going back upstairs to find the cup next to the coffee pot ... how did it get there all by itself?!

THAT kind of morning!

/at least I got my exercise for the day...

574 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:21:58am

Karzai Says Afghanistan Wants to Copy American Democracy, China's Economic Success


"Afghanistan likes to take the example of strength of American society and use that example to add to its own prosperity and strength, by copying, by emulating that example," he said. "Afghanistan is also very, very keen on the success China has achieved in a short period of time."

He urged the students to have greater concern for others as they become leaders in their country.

Chinese state media say annual Sino-Afghan trade is about $500 million, mainly in Chinese exports to Afghanistan.

Released Saudi detainees repentant, says interrogator

"None of them seems to be still keeping their deviant thoughts and extremist views. However, one of them is suffering from serious psychic problems," he said. "We started the first phase of counselling, and it will be followed by the next phases of discussions and dialogues to clear doubts and deviant thoughts".

Dr Mohammad Al Nujaimi said that all the nine Saudi detainees, except two, who were first handed over from US authorities have been released and they are leading a normal life. Two of them are serving one-year jail terms.

Weird news
Daughter discovers birth-mom is co-worker

ELDRIDGE, Iowa — Michelle Wetzell told her co-workers at the salon that she had a fantasy about meeting her biological mother.

Wetzell, who was adopted when she was 4 days old, wanted to somehow learn her mother’s name and address and mail her a coupon for a free manicure. She wanted to see her mother and learn a little about her, without the threat of awkwardness or rejection.

575 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:23:09am

573 littleoldlady
Oh, that kind of day! Egads!

Old Bay is a new one to me truly.
I learn something new every day, lol!

576 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:24:39am

Ok, Where is Beagle now?

Dog Honored For Dialing 911

Belle the beagle is a VIP -- a very important pooch, and she's being honored in Washington as a lifesaver.

Kevin Weaver is a Florida man who suffers from diabetes. When he had a seizure and collapsed, Belle bit into his cell phone, hitting the 911 auto dial button.

Yay, Belle!

577 Mike C.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:26:30am

# 570 St. P.

Old Bay is an east coast thing, extensively used from New England down through the mis-Atlantic states, at least. In the Delmarva area, commonly used for steaming crabs and such.

578 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:27:51am

Guard troops begin training in Laredo

The first 37 Guard members who reported here this week will help prepare the way for dozens more soldiers who will rotate into this area over the next two years in support of the beleaguered Border Patrol.
A similar number of troops reported for duty in the Lower Rio Grande Valley, and Guard members were trickling into duty stations in the Del Rio, Marfa and El Paso regions as well, officials said.
Many of those assigned to border duty volunteered for the mission, Noriega said, and some have served along the border as part of a 19-year collaboration between the military and Border Patrol to catch drug traffickers.

Because many of the Texas troops come from, or are familiar with, the border region, they'll be sensitive to residents' concerns about deployment of the military along the Rio Grande, Noriega said.

"That's one of the advantages of having Texas military forces here," Noriega said. Many have "sensitivity to the history and the culture" of the border, he said, and some speak Spanish.

"One of the major charges of 'Operation Jumpstart' is, we are not militarizing the border," Noriega added.

579 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:30:44am

577 Mike C.
No wonder then. I am used to the Cajun seasonings.

Egads, poor Nolen Ryan. He is the victim of cattle rustling!

Authorities bust cattle-rustling ring

Authorities said Tuesday they have cracked a cattle-rustling operation that stretched across eight counties and claimed 289 head, including 17 cows and 30 calves belonging to Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan.

The total value of the stolen livestock was estimated at up to $300,000.

Authorities recovered 83 head this week from the pastures of a Brazoria County cattle rancher who authorities say has confessed to the thefts.
Of the recovered cows, 17 had been stolen in September from Ryan's China Grove Ranch in Rosharon. His 30 calves are still missing, Mast said.

Johnson said the investigators were relieved to finally make an arrest.

580 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:34:27am

*shipping some Old Bay to St. Pancake*

Or you can buy it used (? ! ?) on Amazon...

581 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:36:22am

Now I'm confused.
Brazil plays China tomorrow? The schedule says Japan, but it has this flag, the Chinese flag, the one with the red dot on white.
So now I don't know who goes against Brazil, I guess China as the flag on my paper is that one.
And we all know that CBS always knows better :)

582 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:37:11am

Blogs Test Political Limits of Internet in China

China employs about 30,000 Internet censors to filter politically sensitive information and help the Communist Party cling to power.

The search engines of Sohu and Sina resumed operation on Wednesday amid media speculation they had been closed down by the government after failing on-the-spot censorship tests.

Hong Kong's South China Morning Post, citing unnamed industry sources, said on Tuesday Beijing had stepped up controls on portals that had failed to filter certain words deemed politically harmful.

al-Qaida Video Shows Alleged 20th Hijacker

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Al-Qaida has identified a would-be 20th hijacker for the Sept. 11 attacks as a Saudi operative who was killed in a 2004 shootout with his country's security forces.

In a statement accompanying a new video, the terrorist network's propaganda arm identified Fawaz al-Nashimi, also known as Turki bin Fuheid al-Muteiry, as the operative who would have rounded out a team that ultimately took over United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed into a Pennsylvania field before reaching its intended target.

583 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:38:15am

Lol, LoLady!
I will look for it now.

Hi, Miguel
You are late, and I am assigning d-halls.

584 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:40:14am

Hi St. Pancake
I don't know what d-halls are, but I have the hunch I rather don't find out :p

585 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:41:46am

No surprise
Fastest Growing cities

Fastest Losing Cities
LoLady, oh my

586 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:42:39am

Can you say "rather" on a day like this, or we have to avoid that word as some sort of funeral?

587 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:42:52am

Yes, when someone is tardy to their class, then they must stay one hour after school, and file for me. :)

588 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:44:53am

U. of Ark. Graduate Cleared in Terror Case

Arwah Jaber, 33, faces a maximum of 10 years in prison on each count of obtaining his naturalization unlawfully and making false statements on passport and immigration applications.

The government moved to revoke his citizenship after the jury returned its verdicts Monday.

U.S. District Judge Jimm Larry Hendren on Tuesday gave both sides 10 days to submit written arguments on that issue.

Jaber came to the attention of authorities when he talked openly about joining Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a group the U.S. government considers a terrorist organization. He was arrested last year as he was about to board a flight and maintains he was going to the Middle East to visit relatives. The government says he wanted to join the holy war.

589 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:45:18am

Oh I see. I knew it wasn't something nice and easy lol.
I can't stay longer teacher, my mommy is going to be very sick in exactly 25 minutes.

590 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:46:25am

Miguel
Would you "rather" stay late tomorrow, or Thursday? I have a hair appt. Friday.

591 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:46:35am

St. Pancake and Carl In Jerusalem, the two front runners in the Linking Olympics ;)

592 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:47:42am

St Pancake
Your seriousness frightens me.
LOL

593 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:47:49am

Ok, Miguel
What soccer games are coming up?

LoLady
I bookmarked some old magazines on eBay, durnit. Veru tempting ones from the '30s.

594 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:50:04am

Lol, Miguel
"taking off teacher mask"

Ok, Miguel
One of the young soldiers killed graduated high school in Brownsville. He probably does still have relatives in Mexico. Earlier they had a page where I was able to write a note.

Here is the front page now.

http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/top_stories.php

595 ShiksaGrrrl  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:51:19am

OT: ( for those from Toronto )

...some might recall a few weeks back reports in the news...about potential "terrorists" that were taking photos in the Keele or Kipling subway station... ( just a few stops apart )


these were later discredited when the group of terrorists were caught...


In any event, yesterday morning at about 8:15 am, I was using the tube to get to my office and we stopped for a period of time.
During this, 2 policeman, or at least 2 were all I could see, entered my train, trying to be terribly discreet and walked up and down quietly looking under each seat...

One has to wonder what they were looking for and why the need for discretion of course.

Not sure Id be the first after this to discredit the earlier reports...

596 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:51:45am

#585 St. Pancake,

That's within the city limits, and frankly I'm very surprised that the reduction is only .5%. If the building that's goin on in this county is any indication (and I believe it is) this area is exploding.

The Philadelphia area used to be the 4th largest media-market in the country. We may have been displaced by Houston (or is it Dallas?...something in Texas ;-) by now though.

We're number five! YAY! ;-)

597 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:52:03am

St Pancake
For the next 3 days, there are 4 matches a day. Two and two simultaneously.
Wednesday's matches are:
At 9 am:
Mexico-Portugal
Angola-Iran

At 2 pm:
Netherlands-Argentina
Ivory Coast-Serbia.

CDT

598 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:52:36am

595 ShiksaGrrrl
Not from Toronto, but that gives me the creeps.

Be careful out there as it is a crazy world sometimes.

599 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:53:40am

It's not me. There's something wrong with my keyboard...

St. Pancake,

You're BUYING again on ebay?! I thought you wanted to get rid of stuff? LOL!

600 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:55:27am

596 littleoldlady
"blushing"
Yes, it was Houston that surpassed Philly.
oops!
We are number four now.

I am amazed though to hear about growth. Hey, that's great. I do not want the East Coast to deteriorate anymore.
On the other hand, notice the hurricane cities lost population too. No surprise-NO, Beaumont, etc.

601 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:56:03am

About that Mexican guy killed in Iraq, the media here found his family in Texas and the declarations were...just swell!
His uncle said: "I don't care about anything else, I want those bastards killed" wow!
And the media here didn't say a word against it. For this overly nationalists here, a Mexican was murdered by the terrorists.
The Muslims are their best own PR, right?
Keep it up Mahmood...

602 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 12:57:41am

599 littleoldlady
I adore those old magazines though. I have many. Unfortunately, it was this thread which brought back the urge. I recollected the Dec, 23, 1941 Life magazine with the classic article "How to Tell the Japs from the Chinese". Yes, that is very tacky these days. Classic Life magazine with the 48 star flag, and the great ads too.

603 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:03:59am

I had a feeling about that, Miguel. Godo to hear though. People watch out for each other.

Here is that magazine, Lolady
http://cgi.ebay.com/Life-Dec-22-1941-US-goes-to-Wa r-Nazis-in-Russia_W0QQitemZ7042057237QQcategoryZ28 0QQcmdZViewItem

I got my copy a few years ago, and it is a classic for anyone out there who is a WWII freak.

604 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:04:26am

Good, pimf!

605 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:04:38am

St Pancake
I'm so old, that the magazines of my childhood had the American flag with 13 stars :)

606 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:05:47am

I was so furious Miguel. I did leave a nice note to the family though in that paper.

607 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:06:13am

Lol, Miguel!
:D
Hah!

608 St. Pancake  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:06:36am

Adios, and good night, all!

609 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:07:21am

St. Pancake,

You'll never get out from under with that attitude! ;-)

With the way my brain is functioning in slo-mo today, I'd better get moving now.

First, "Hi Miguel!"

Good day, ALL!™

"Bye, Miguel!"

;-)

610 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:10:31am

St Pancake
;)

About this case, several Mexicans have been killed in Iraq before, but this two guys were treated in an extremely despiseful way, by animals of the worst kind. So, word went around of how things happened, and quite a few people are very angry at the terrorists.
They are Ph. D.s on making enemies.

Reverse Dale Carnegie course? How to make enemies and kill people?

611 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:12:16am

Wow massive withdrawal of troops at LGF.

Hello and good bye, littleoldlady! :)

Good bye St. Pancake! :)

God bless.

612 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:17:36am

I just come in and littleoldlady leaves.
I wonder if she has something against me.

/Chanelling someone from NYC :p

613 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:22:43am

Mornin' Y'All.
I received this last night and thought I would pass it along fwiw. I know nothing about the link - haven't clicked it...

Subject: Fw: Important Info About Area Codes

IMPORTANT INFO ABOUT AREA CODE
We actually received a call last week from the 809 area code. The woman said "Hey, this is Karen. Sorry I missed you--get back to us quickly. I Have something important to tell you." Then she repeated a phone number beginning with 809 "We didn't respond".

Then this week, we received the following e-mail:

Subject: DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809 , 284 AND 876

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY AT&T. DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809

This one is being distributed all over the US. This is pretty scary, especially given the way they try to get you to call.
Be sure you read this and pass it on.
They get you to call by telling you that it is information about a family member who has been ill or to tell you someone has-been arrested, died, or to let you know you have won a wonderful prize, etc.
In each case, you are told to call the 809 number right away. Since there are so many new area codes these days, people unknowingly return these calls.

If you call from the US , you will apparently be charged $2425 per-minute.

Or, you'll get a long recorded message. The point is, they will try to keep you on the phone as long as possible to increase the charges. Unfortunately, when you get your phone bill, you'll often be charged more than $24, 100.00.

WHY IT WORKS:

The 809 area code is located in the British Virgin Islands (The Bahamas).
The charges afterwards can become a real nightmare. That's because you did actually make the call. If you complain, both your local phone company and your long distance carrier will not want to get involved and will most likely tell you that they are simply providing the billing for the foreign company. You'll end up dealing with a foreign company that argues they have done nothing wrong.

Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and colleagues to help them become aware of this scam

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Additional information on these area codes can be found from ATT at:

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614 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:40:05am

CBS, lmao! Buncha fricken morons, lol.

That's fricken hilarious.

This is a good laugh as well:

Letters to Ahmadinejad

I recommend you scroll down to Morpehus' (of the Matrix) and Kofi's letters.

Pretty funny.

615 Mike C.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:41:06am

Stupid internet connections. Been very erratic here for the last 40 minutes.

616 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:49:53am

Where's everybody?

Did I arrive just as the party's breaking up?

I'm warning you, I might start talking about all the things I did on KOS when I was a youngster!

:P

Oh...for this to work, type "Kos, Greece" into the search bar...

617 Mike C.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:52:35am

# 616 G J

Please don't. I'm begging you.

618 firegeezer  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:52:48am

It's 6:50 am Eastern time...and the "Jap Flag" graphic is still on the CBS website. I guess those seven layers of editors haven't gotten to work yet.

619 nonic  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:54:39am

Good morning, people.

It's 6:50 a.m. in NYC, and the CBS site is still showing the map of Japan to represent China.

Uh... you know... maybe it's a prediction of some sort.

Uh-oh. What if China takes it seriously, as a threat?

Wouldn't that be something? Newsweek got people killed over imaginary korans flushed down imaginary toilets. Is CBS looking to top that by starting a war between China and Japan?

/sarc

Is there a new make-news award I don't know about?

620 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 1:55:33am

#617 Mike C.:

Please don't. I'm begging you.

It's just that it works really well in a sentence, like so:

-I threw up on Kos, more than once.

/See how well that works? :P

621 LouMinatti  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:01:42am

12 hours after this appeared, it's still there. Amazing.

622 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:01:51am

7 am here in New Jersey. Japanaese flag still flying.

The stupid people at CBS sleep late, don't you know?

623 Mike C.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:02:57am

# 620 G J

In my youth, it was a very big deal to go to the bowling alley in the town 20 miles away. The first time I ever left my native country, I was going on 38 years old.

But meanwhile, back at the ranch, I'm getting hungry, so I do believe some dinner is in order. Back in a bit.

624 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:04:28am

Good Morning Youse'all from a sunny, warm (69 degrees, going up to 84 degrees) day here in NYC!
How is everyone?
#619 nonic -hey nonic, I didn't realize you were in NYC too! And, FWIW they're still showing the Japanese flag - they really ought to start they're day with LGF! LOL!

625 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:05:40am

Dan Rather finally leaves and their news judgment goes to hell.

Bring back Gunga Dan. We need someone to slap around.

626 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:07:01am

#625 JammieWearingFool - Courage!
We have ALL of seeBS New to slap around, there's no dearth of targets!

627 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:07:56am

I'll bet Mike . winds up eating Chinese food for dinner - any takers?!

628 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:08:29am

hi realwest,

A most lovely morning. Humidity finally broke. But it'll be back tomorrow. Enjoy the one-day respite.

629 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:09:00am

PIMF That of course is Mike C.
Need some coffee NOW!

630 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:12:43am

#628 JWF - Hi back atcha Jammie! yup, humidity is down, skies are blue, it's gonna be a gorgeous day here. Though the long term prediction for Saturday and Sunday are highs of only 74 and 72 degrees, respectively!

631 nonic  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:12:52am

Okay, so I was kidding in #619.

I'm not personally in NYC.

But also... suppose CBS put an Israeli map on... oh, any shithole muslim country.

At the very least, we'd get a rerun of the mo cartoon deal.

633 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:15:54am

Just STFU already.

Rush made a great point yesterday. There wouldn't be so many refugees and hungry people if there were more capitalism around the world.

Can't dispute that.

Even the Namibians must be tired of her already.

634 nonic  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:16:20am

#624 realwest

:-)

Hi, sweetie pie. No. I'm not in NYC. I'm relatively NEAR it in central northern NJ. It just seemed for a worldwide audience, it made more sense than saying the name of my little burg.

635 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:18:10am

#631 nonic That's NYC's loss, for sure! I don't think that'll happen, cause cBS would NEVER put Irael on a map ANYWHERE, less they couldn't help it!
Oh, wait, that's the UN, what was I thinking?!

;>)

636 nonic  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:18:22am

#624 realwest

I wasn't lying. It was 6:50 a.m. in NYC - I just wasn't there. I can say it's currently 7:18 a.m. in Washington DC. Which it is. Right?

637 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:21:58am

#632 J.D. - Hi there! Whoa, such a deep topic for so early in the AM! LOL! How are ya today?

638 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:23:34am

Hey guys,

Howzzitgoin'?

I had a lot of fun last night poking fun at my English flat-mate because his team sucked so bad...

639 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:26:44am

WTH? I come on and St. Pancake, littleoldlady, Miguel, Mike C. and, apparently Golden Jerusalem all leave?! Can't be my deodorant, just showered and put on fresh!
Well, I guess they knew they could leave LGF safely in the hands of the "A" team - JammieWearingFool, nonic, J.D., and moi!

640 lurking faith  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:26:49am

Good morning!

I can't stay, but I saw this thread's topic and just had to toss in a hearty

bwahahahaha!

MSM: Well, they all look the same to me...

641 nonic  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:27:48am

#613 J.D.

I recently moved and when setting up my landline service, I specifically passed on long-distance access. Totally. I can call only a few very near-by area codes from my landline phone.

But, since everyone in my household has his own separate cell phone I didn't figure we needed it.

And it saves money not to have it.

For another thing, I have a landline for dial-up on my computer, and in the past I had the experience that my computer would get a virus and make calls to porn numbers on its own. Now it can't.

642 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:28:09am

#638 GJ - your'e back! Yea! Um, you weren't dumpster diving at Kos were you?

643 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:29:46am

Hey nonic and J.D., you've both had recent experiences with moving, did either of you use a moving company like United Van Lines or some such?

644 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:30:00am

#637 realwest
Good. I'm good. A little loopy from darvocet, but things could always be worse.

How about y'all?

We have 75° and sunny here.


And while I'm into deep subjects:

You wish the world could be completely peaceful, and so do I. There, now that we've got that out of the way, we can work our way back to the real world, almost, and talk about the upcoming World Peace Forum in Vancouver, Canada, which begins this Friday and runs through June 28.

Here's the basic description of the event from their website:

The mission of the Forum is to create a global culture of peace. This is how we propose to implement our mission:

* Publish a World Peace Forum statement: ''Building a Culture of Peace and Sustainability,'' for the global community, outlining what individuals, communities, cities, groups, and nations can do locally to create a culture of peace and sustainability.

* Create an ongoing legacy of bi-annual World Peace Forums, in cities around the world, to refine, promote, and expand the culture of peace and sustainability.

* Encourage communities and nations to plan for peace, for example, by inaugurating Departments of Peace at city, regional, and national levels of government.

* Celebrate and protect diversity of culture locally and globally.

* Make war abhorrent, peace popular, and the restoration and protection of our global ecosystems a priority.


This all has the makings of some bumper sticker slogans that are sure to be adorning hybrids everywhere in the coming year, but after that we're still stuck with vastly differing perspectives.

For example, I thought the U.S. did have a ''Department of Peace,'' and it's called the ''military.'' And who busted those would-be terrorists in Toronto before they fulfilled their sick dreams and killed who knows how many, perhaps including, heaven forbid, peace activists? The world has yet to see a single tin-pot wingnut or murderous thug brought down by a bumper sticker, picket sign or bed-in.

The peace activist also has an inability, or more accurately put, an unwillingness, to target the message to the proper market. Consider Yoko Ono, wife of John Lennon, peace activist, and "singer" whose shriek is the mating call of the Tinnitus Warbler.

In 2003, Ono rented a billboard in London, which read: ''Imagine all people living life in peace.'' Now that cashiers at Piccadilly Square gift shops and bellboys at The Conrad have read the message, is the world that much closer to eliminating the threat of war?

Over the years, Ono has also performed what she calls a "cut piece," in which audience members come onstage and clip off pieces of her clothing until she's nearly naked. Does all of this accomplish or prove anything, other than Newton's Law of Gravity? Supposedly, this all somehow promotes world peace -- either that or it's a subliminal ad for Pepto-Bismol.

Yoko's husband, the late John Lennon, was and is one of the world's most famous seekers of peace at any cost. Consider history, however. Since John Lennon released the pacifist anthems "Imagine" and "Give Peace A Chance," the couple's "bed in," and Ono's first "cut piece," we had a continuation of hostilities in Vietnam, the tragedy at the Olympic games in Munich, the hostage crisis in Iran, embassy bombings, hijackings, 9/11, continuous violence in the Middle East and constant terrorist attacks around the world. Why isn't it working? The answer is simple: Terrorists, criminals, warmongers and despots clearly don't listen to FM radio, read back issues of Rolling Stone or attend Paris theater nearly enough. ...


Among the Intellectualoids
Giving Peace a Glance

read the rest...

645 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:34:51am

#644 Darvocet? Why the darvocet dear? (I read the rest of your post; there's nothing wrong, lord knows, with wishing for world peace, it just ain't likely to ever happen in our lifetime.
As for Yoko, the less said...!

646 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:37:12am

#638 Golden Jerusalem - Hey, that wasn't nice, just cause his team has a history of getting beat by Sweden, is no reason to laugh! Besides, I thought that Merry Olde had made it to the A finals, even with the tie with Sweden?

647 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:37:51am

Yes, I believe I've covered location with nonic previously. I'm also from far north central NJ, but work down in central NJ, about 50 miles south.

EZ commute when you leave at 5:30 am, but I actually have to drive slower than normal since 287 is quite empty at that time.

648 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:38:03am

#641 nonic
That sounds like a great plan. If I didn't need to regularly fax long distance...

#643 realwest
I used them to move my son back from Baltimore to Kentucky, but loaded up and drove his stuff myself out to L.A.
Are time and/or money issues?
One thing to remember about the big moving companies is that unless you are moving an entire household so that they make delivering your things a priority, you may wait much longer than they "estimate"...
Check out ABF and Movex. I know people who've used ABF (I think that's the correct one - will check...)

649 scooter  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:40:00am

Good morning to all. Just popping in for a minute...

At the end of of UK Times article I noticed this:

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi will be buried in an unmarked grave in Iraq, the country he terrorised for three years, because his native Jordan has refused to take his remains.
“Zarqawi’s body will be buried in an unidentified site with no mark,” Mouwaffak al-Rubaie, the Iraqi National Security Adviser, told The Times. The remains have been kept near Baghdad airport."

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Clearly Jordan made the right decision, and hopefully the media will not attempt to create a melodrama about it.

650 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:42:57am

Congratulation sto the Miami HEat on winning the NBA title and sticking it to moonbat Dallas owner Mark Cuban, George C. Looney's buddy.

I know some of my fellow Knicks fan never forgave Pat Riley for leaving them (and faxing in his resignation), but I've always liked Riley, who I've had cocktails with on a couple occasions years ago at a high-falutin NYC establishment that my BIL managed. A genuinely nice guy, through a tad esoteric for a hoops coach.

651 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:44:03am

#645 realwest

#644 Darvocet? Why the darvocet dear?


Just a little...glitch.

Yes. ABF.
[Link: www.upack.com...]

To move down here to FL, I brought only my tempur-pedic and living room upholstered furniture, my safe, jetski, kitchen and personal stuff in a good old Penske truck and hired, by the hour, movers on both ends to unload the stuff...

652 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:48:14am

#642 realwest:

#638 GJ - your'e back! Yea! Um, you weren't dumpster diving at Kos were you?

No, but in my, uh, rather drunken state last night, it suddenly occurred to me that there's a Greek island named Kos!

Not only that, but I've been there several times in my wild partying teen years.

Hence, I can honestly say, for instance, that I've gone to the bathroom on Kos regularly.

I thought it was marvellously funny last night.

I also had some good discussions concerning whips :P

Hey, that wasn't nice, just cause his team has a history of getting beat by Sweden, is no reason to laugh! Besides, I thought that Merry Olde had made it to the A finals, even with the tie with Sweden?

Sure, England are through to the knock-out stage. They've just been decidedly lacklustre, is all.

653 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:48:18am

#648 J.D. - when would time and money NOT be a factor? I've heard about deliveries of less than complete houselholds, and they're making stops along the way, so to speak, but were they dependable on a time basis? I mean if you asked for delivery on say June 10th, would they actually get there on the 10th?

654 firegeezer  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:49:05am

7:40 am Eastern...and the flag is still there!

655 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:49:07am
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi will be buried in an unmarked grave in Iraq, the country he terrorised for three years, because his native Jordan has refused to take his remains.

Drag him through the streets first,
then bury him face down in a shallow grave so his buddies can pop in for a cold one.

656 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:50:38am
657 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:51:13am

#642 realwest:

#638 GJ - your'e back! Yea! Um, you weren't dumpster diving at Kos were you?

No, but in my, uh, rather drunken state last night, it suddenly occurred to me that there's a Greek island named Kos!

Not only that, but I've been there several times in my wild partying teen years.

Hence, I can honestly say, for instance, that I've gone to the bathroom on Kos regularly.

I thought it was marvellously funny last night.

I also had some good discussions concerning whips :P

Hey, that wasn't nice, just cause his team has a history of getting beat by Sweden, is no reason to laugh! Besides, I thought that Merry Olde had made it to the A finals, even with the tie with Sweden?

Sure, England are through to the knock-out stage. They've just been decidedly lacklustre, is all.

658 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:51:46am

Aha, speaking of whips!

Morning, AI :P

659 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:54:11am

#653 realwest

#648 J.D. - when would time and money NOT be a factor?...


When you have plenty of them.

I mean if you asked for delivery on say June 10th, would they actually get there on the 10th?


If you have a large enough shipment, maybe. I rarely hear about it, though, and I have dealt with people who are moving for the last 7 years nonstop...well, until now.
:-D
Call them over and get a quote...see if you can pin them down.
Do you have an outfit called Two Men and a Truck in NY? They're not bad...

660 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:54:21am
661 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:55:59am
662 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:56:13am

#660 AI:

Heh, lol.

That was a blast last night :P

Best thing was, I woke up feeling just fine, albeit slightly dehydrated.

I swear, it so pays to only drink the good stuff!

663 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:57:02am

#651 J.D. - ah, thanks. The problem is I'm not strong enough to pack stuff myself and then my Mom in Maryland has her apartemnt full of stuff, so I was hoping for a company that would pick up all my boxes (and CAREFULLY box my TV, Computer Monitor and compuer)drive to Maryland and pick up her stuff, then drive it all down to Charlotte. Problem is my Mom can't pack her own stuff and neither of us can drive safely - me cause of my meds and her cause she's 81 and was a terror on the road 30 years ago and hasn't driven in the last 7 years at all!
Crap. Don't know what to do; it's not so bad if a moving company like United Van will do the toting and lifting and guarantee a delivery date, but if they can't guarantee it, we (my Mom and I) are really left suckin' wind.

664 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:57:20am
665 nonic  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 2:59:43am

#643 realwest

No, we didn't. My situation was that we were moving only about 50 miles away, I had virtually no furniture, but do have 5 strapping young sons.

We borrowed a friend's pickup truck to move the floor loom, oversized custom-made dining table, and 2 oversized custom-made bookcases. That was ALL of the furniture, except for great-granny's rocker.

Then we rented 2 utility-size vans (not even the big ones) to move the several hundred boxes of books, media, kitchen stuff and other stuff.

The move cost me a total of a few hundred (under 500), including gas and feeding my crew 2 meals.

---

Incidentally, I just reloaded the CBS site at almost 8:00 a.m. NYC-time, and the Rising Sun is still perched on the moon. Ha.

666 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:00:25am

#662 GJ - from what I remember, back in the Day, drinking a LARGE glass of water before going to sleep does away with hangovers all together for, as you said, it's the dehydration that causes the hangover (well, ok, it's the consumption of too much alcohol which causes hangovers - good stuff or not, but the hangovers are primarily caused by being dehydrated).

667 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:01:14am
668 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:01:32am
669 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:04:21am

#665 nonic - Yeah, I've move three times in the last five year, but they were all inter-Manhattan moves, I personally took computer and monitor and other "precious" items by cab, and had a small moving company do the furniture, boxes and trash bags fulla stuff take the rest; all one day, easy as pie.
This be a WHOLE nother situation!

670 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:05:21am

If anyone is interested, the book is American Conservatism: An Encyclopedia.

Impress your friends, enrage a moonbat, use it to club hapless LLL's into submission.

671 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:08:36am

#663 realwest
Call around up there and where Mom is and see if you can get one of the moving outfits (and not necessarily just the big-name ones) to do what you need. Do you know anyone who's moved into or out of NY lately? Satisfied customer referrals are absolutely the best. Like I said above, I've used Two Men and a Truck several times and I know many people who have. In L.A., we used Starving Students, who did a fine job but there wasn't a student in the group. Here in FL, we used All My Sons, though none of them were related...

You're bound to have a lot of choices there.

I waited an extra month over what was estimated by [started out with] United / [second leg] by Mayflower to get my son's things to KY, but I took them to CA myself because we didn't have any wiggle room on the date he started school and absolutely needed his things...

672 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:09:11am

#670 JWF - a thousand page tome?! I'd rather use a good old fashioned two by four on moonbats, easier to grab, some experience with 'em, etc. etc.
Course the ole Louisville Slugger ain't bad either.
Unfortunately, neither the 2x4 nor the baseball bat will teach you much about American Conservatism, but ya gotta get your priorities clear!

673 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:10:11am

#666 realwest:

from what I remember, back in the Day, drinking a LARGE glass of water before going to sleep does away with hangovers all together for, as you said, it's the dehydration that causes the hangover (well, ok, it's the consumption of too much alcohol which causes hangovers - good stuff or not, but the hangovers are primarily caused by being dehydrated).

Oh yea, before crashing, I guzzled like a half gallon of soda water (whaddaya call it, club soda?) But I swear, drinking sub-standard booze is the worst.

Actually, a bottle of Glenfiddich. That's even more horrible the next day, GAKH!

#667 AI:

I myself have never awakened with a hangover, nor have I had to worship at the base of the ceramic god (the toilet bowl)...

Yes, but IIRC, you're Polish, so that is not comparable to ordinary people :P

/ducks under desk

674 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:12:25am

#671 J.D. - Excellent ideas, all of them, thanks.
But did you say an extra MONTH by using United/Mayflower? WTF? Was that a Month past the date they said they'd deliver? And if so, what was their excuse?

675 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:12:33am

Puking synonyms:

* be a translator for the United Nations
* bend and send
* bok choy broth
* the Brooklyn mating call
* cavitate (dry heaves)
* Chunk Chunder (and The Space Patrol)
* curl and hurl
* do some supermodel push-ups
* Dutch groceries
* eat backwards
* fire your retro rockets
* free the Tater Tots from their gastric prison
* gargle gravy
* gargle the gouda
* gorilla growl
* gork up the four food groups
* hang a food rope
* I gotta chew my fries more

676 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:13:51am
677 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:15:43am

I see CBS is still stuck on stupid this morning...

Good morning, LGF.

678 DeliLama  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:17:13am

Nandeyanen?

"Oh say can you see
By the dawn's urry right
What so proudry we hayed
At the twidright's rast greaming"

Viva Nihon! Genki Forever!

679 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:18:56am

Good Morning American Infidel
Check your mail


Golden
Real
Jammie
JD
Nonic
and who-so-eva else be here

Shalom to youse


[Link: www.fanarchive.net...]
Occasional took a picture of me the other day
Bwahahaha

680 nonic  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:18:58am

#663 realwest

Sounds like you gotta hire people. If you can AFFORD it, it shouldn't be too painful. But I don't know, cause I've never done it.

Your real estate agent can probably give you a recommendation and maybe even get you a discount.

Good luck.

681 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:19:26am

#677 Dar ul Harb:

I see CBS is still stuck on stupid this morning...

Yes, that's their default setting, I believe :P

682 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:20:00am

#674 realwest
Yes, a month past the date.
Being a student, he had only a one bedroom apartment. They very carefully loaded up his furniture and the boxes we had packed into crates and took them to their storage facility in Hanover, Maryland, BUT with it being just a small load, the delivery date was at the mercy of the individual (subcontractor) movers - yes, including Mayflower drivers...
One from Tennessee finally put together a delivery to Cincinnati, me, and Louisville on his way home for the 4th of July.

Call the smaller companies and talk to them.
Call the larger ones, too, but try really hard to pin them down.

683 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:20:02am
684 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:20:43am

#677 Dar ul Harb - Why should this day be different than any other day at cBS? BTW, did anyone notice we have no visitors from AL-Rueters here (yet)today?

685 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:22:45am

Summer breeze makes me feel fine, blowing through the Jasmine in my mind...

686 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:22:49am

#679 BabbaZee:

Morning, Babba. This Bud's for you, baby! :-)

687 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:23:08am
688 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:23:51am

#679 BabbaZee - good morning! How are you feeling today? Any hives or welts?

689 TotallySirius  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:25:50am

Interesting topic.

I'm glad that there is at least one country willing to forego "social" programs in order to expand mankind's horizons.

690 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:26:07am

realwest,

Did a bit of searching on moving companies.

Take a look here, here, here, here and here.

Hope these help.

691 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:28:58am

#680 nonic - Now if only we HAD a real estate agent! Yuch, this is turning into more of a hassle than I ever thought it would be, even with part of our new household here in NYC and part in MD.

#682 J.D. - subcontractors? Ya mean I'd hire United or Mayflower, then they subcontract it to someone else who'd deliver it when they felt like it?
I hope you didn't have to pay them until they delivered.

692 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:29:09am

American Infidel~
I'm not too good today, but I sure wish I was Polish!
My Romanian/Italian half a pancreas
cant even process 2 drinks, LOL

Golden!
I get a FORBIDDEN error
it must not like me!


REAL!
The Ol' digestive system doesnt like this weather, I'm sure you know all about this...
I am nominally red and lumpy to day, WOo HOO

PeaceKeeper! Mornin' love


I saw the most amazing rainbow yesterday BTW
after a wild thunderstorm
I love this house
Last time I saw a rainbow like that one was 1986!

693 TotallySirius  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:29:28am

On Daring Dan's Dramatic Departure.

He's whining that it was all CBS's fault,because they wouldn't let him do "substantive" work.

WTF Dan,they wouldn't let you work alone because you proved you couldn't be trusted.


Fake but accurate...Pffft!

Poofter!

Asshat!

694 yochanan  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:30:55am

cBS still has not corrected the mistake

ROFLMAO

695 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:31:41am

Genome Scientist Finds God
[Link: www.khouse.org...]


And BTW
CBS?
WTF are they gonna say here?
All you gooks look the same to us...
so sorry we confused your slanty eyed flags?

696 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:31:44am

#691 realwest
The guy who brought our stuff was an independent subcontractor for Mayflower - in a Mayflower truck, sure enough.

I think I paid part up front and the balance at the end. They have your stuff as collateral and can place a lien on it, of course, if you don't own up to your end of the bargain. Which, of course, you will...

697 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:32:14am
698 nonic  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:33:57am

OT

Complete Beatrix Potter Collection

This is a set of 2 DVD's containing a total of 9 Beatrix Potter stories beautifully animated in her style, each 26-minute "episode" book-ended with truly lovely live-action depictions of Potter herself and wonderful real animals.

This is one of the prettiest and most charming things I have ever seen on DVD - absolutely great for your own children, your grandchildren, or as baby gifts.

Unbelievably, only... hmm... $17.99. I ordered it last week and received it yesterday for $14.99.

But even at $18, I would say this is well worth it.

No, I do not get a cut. Just wanted to share. :-)

699 XMangels  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:34:06am

A Big, and I mean Big, Big, Big Quake is coming.

No kid stuff, a message Quake is coming.

A Quake that will rock Iran and give a heads up to N. Korea.

The Lord is pissed.

The Lord has ways.

Hold on, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.


XM angels

700 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:34:15am

#692 BabbaZee:

Hmm, weird.

Try this then: planetskunk - WHOA!

701 storagemanager  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:34:19am

good morning

702 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:34:37am

{Babbazee} be well Gypsy Queen!
{Infidella} Are those new shoes?
Hiya Realwest, haven't escaped from New York yet?
Shalom GJ.

703 Goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:35:13am

Good morning, Lizards!

704 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:36:02am
705 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:36:16am

Whoa! The Perfumed Cloud is here! Gahh! I can't taste my strawberry yogurt!

706 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:36:38am

#690 JammieWearingFool - Whoa! Thanks a lot, bud! I had been hoping for some personal experiences but the first three of your links sure look promising (But how the hell do YOU weigh Your stuff?)!
Seriously, thanks a lot, again!

707 storagemanager  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:36:52am

anybody need a job...Saddam needs a new lawyer

708 TotallySirius  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:38:01am

Bummer,wildfires in Sodona,Arizona.

One of the most beautiful places on Earth.

Home of Slide Rock.

I hope it doesn't get too bad.

709 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:38:04am

Morning Storageman!

710 DeliLama  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:38:43am

"Oh say does that rising sun
Banner yet wave
O'er the land of the moon
And the home of the brave"

711 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:38:56am

#702 PK:

Hey guy, howzzitgoin'?

Psst: I think that's a new whip, dude!

712 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:39:30am

JD (you manly man)!
Totally


aaah I give up.

713 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:39:31am

AI

that's an interseting article for sure


". But in 1988, an amendment was added to the constitution which has become the biggest obstacle to religious freedom in the country. The amendment, Article 121 (1A), states that civil courts have no jurisdiction on "any matter" which falls within the jurisdiction of the Syariah (Sharia, Islamic Law) courts.

As a result of this, all people who are deemed Muslims cannot change their religion. How one is judged to be a Muslim does not derive from a statement of faith, as by reciting the shahada or making a written declaration, but is decided purely on racial grounds.

Every individual is issued with an identity card at age 12, and on this card one's religion is stated. For all ethnic Malays, the religion is automatically entered as "Muslim"."

The Catch-22 for all former Muslims is that they must apply to the Sharia Courts to have their change of faith recognised, and the Sharia courts have so far never granted any living individual the right to apostasise from Islam. The only case where a woman was allowed to apostasise involved an 89-year old widow called Nyonya Tahir.


Fuckers.

714 storagemanager  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:39:35am

morning peacekeeper

715 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:39:45am
716 firegeezer  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:40:37am

8:40 am Eastern...Summer has officially arrived (14 minutes ago) and the Japanese flag still flies over the moon !

717 Endangered in Mass  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:40:44am

Let's not be too hard on them .Anyone could confuse their 3A's with their 3B's.

718 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:40:48am

#699 XMangels - uh, ya gotta time frame on that quake?

719 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:41:21am

Mornin' BabbaZee, PK, et al...

720 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:42:43am

Good Morning One and All!

Happy stormy Wednesday to my American Infidel neighbor!

I think we're in for it, today. Rain, thunder, lightning, the radar is positively green all around us!

721 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:43:15am

#715 AI:

LOL...No, but since you brought up the topic of shoes I am going to pick up a pair or two this week...

Also, since I have been diligent in going through my closets I have actually found a few pairs of shoes (brand spanking new) that I had forgotten that I had...

How about shiny knee-length black leather boots? :P

PS: You said spanking...hehe

/I'm well outta line, please slap me

722 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:43:17am

#702 Peacekeeper - Morning PK - nope, not expecting to escape for another 5 weeks or so, but given the rather glum info I've received on moving from NYC and MD to Charlotte, who the hell knows when I'll be moving?!

723 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:43:23am
724 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:43:55am

Plaque in my closet

One shoe can change your life.
Cinderella


Re: Dan Rather, I'll it was the last straw for him when they took the sharp scissors out of his desk and replaced them with the safety scissors. That usually doesn't go over too well...

725 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:44:49am

#722 realwest
You have to think of it as an adventure! That's all...

726 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:45:39am

I'll it ? ? ?
/not responsible for the content

727 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:45:48am

So are you Chinese or Japanese?

We're Laotian.

The Ocean? Which Ocean?

Laotian! We're from Laos! It's not on any ocean it's a landlocked country!

...So, are you Chinese or Japanese?


/King of the Hill

728 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:47:33am

#707 storagemanager
I wonder why they haven't managed to...well, get...Ramsey Clark?

729 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:47:38am
730 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:48:02am

#704 American Infidel
actually there IS a third ethnic origin in me

My Grandfathers citizenship certificate says
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN POLAND
RACE HEBREW

but to day, I am told his town is in the modern day Ukraine
and when he left, his country was called Galicia
[Link: www.polishroots.org...]
[Link: www.jewishgen.org...]

For a little while when his citizenship papers were filled out it was considered Poland.

It was a town called Stanislawow
Sounds awfully Polish to me!


So maybe that's the part of my pancreas that still works, LOL
The Polish part.

I also heard that some of my Romanian relatives
were horrified that my grandmother was marrying a "Galitzianer"
who seemed to be considered
the "trash of the immigrant Jewish world" at that time...but her first choice was one of Meyer Lansky's men
and my her dad did not give one shit about any Galitzianer BS... and HE arranged this marriage for her

731 Goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:48:13am

#698 nonic

Heaven bless you! I've just ordered the DVD set. My brother and sister-in-law gave my kids several of the VHS tapes 10 years ago, and I've been worried about their deteriorating.

Another thing: I call my students "good little bunnies" when they've done their homework. I'm always impressed when one of them actually gets the allusion. I then explain the story (The Tale of Peter Rabbit) to the clueless.

732 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:48:21am

GJ she's putting on her spanking shoes just for youse.

Realwest you shoulda gone north... every New Yorker dreams of moving to Vermont... and voting socialist.

733 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:49:04am
734 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:49:12am

#723 American Infidel
Yea I likes that site
thanks for the link

{Storagemanager}
My brother
How are you ?

{ChiBlue!}

735 TotallySirius  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:49:53am

I suppose a giant Japanese flag on the moon is better than someone permanently burning giant letters "CHA" on the moon's surface with a candle powered laser beam.


Trivia time:Where is the above statement from?

736 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:50:21am

every New Yorker dreams of moving to Vermont... and voting socialist.

NOOOoooOOOoOooo!

I'm the only right wing zionist hippie god freak on my block, thats for sure, LOL
And this is only CT

737 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:50:25am

You need an immigrant pancreas to do the jobs American pancreasesesssesses won't do.

738 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:51:21am

Warm greetings to you BabbaZee ~ always grand to see you!

Peacekeeper ~ Sweet days of summer, the jasmine's in bloom
July is dressed up and playing her tune

Good Morning storagemanager!

Golden Jerusalem...LOL!

realwest - don't despair, as J.D. said, it's an adventure!

Good Morning to you J.D. =)


Now for some coffee...

739 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:51:23am

now that's funny

740 nonic  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:51:42am

Okay. So I got an amazon order yesterday, and in the box were those flyers, you know, and one was for something I think is just amazing.

Real postage stamps made from your photographs.

I gotta tell you, I'm probably not at all likely to ever use this, but I think it is such a cool idea. Wow.

---

I guess maybe this and my previous post would be considered shilling and not an LGF-appropriate thing to do. I promise, no more.

741 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:52:38am

Mornin' ChicagoBlue!

Look, kids! No errors! :-D

742 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:52:41am

This morning I saw a street sign someone had written "RIOT" on the back of it... Think I'll burn cars.

Good Morning {LGF}

743 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:53:20am

Morning Chica. Things are already out of hand here.

744 rin  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:53:27am

Realwest,

Just a thought, but how about one of those "pods"? You hire a mover to move you to your moms house (Flatrate movers in NYC was reasonably priced & the guys were a bunch of Israelis), meanwhile a "pod" is being loaded at your moms house by local mover guys. Your stuff arrives, gets loaded into the "pod" and then sent off to NC.

745 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:54:46am

Not that I want to be starting any international incidents; RATHER, I'd prefer to humiliate CBS.

So I sent the CBS link to the Xinhua news agency.


[Link: www.chinaview.cn...]

Anyway, get a load of the Chinese spacecraft.

WTF?

I sent that story to a Chinese friend at work this morning and she was very annoyed.

"CBS, they are very stupid" she said.

746 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:55:18am

Dubs!

747 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:55:30am

Jammie Wearing Fool,

Since Mavericks fans are looking for blame perhaps they can start with the owners big mouth.

37-23 – That was Miami's advantage in free throw attempts in Game 6, and the numbers epitomized the difference in the series. In the six games, Miami took 52 more free throws than the Mavs, mostly because of Wade's spectacular play (he took 97 by himself). With its frequent trips to the foul line, Miami was able not only to score some easy points but also to slow down the Dallas offense by consistently being back on defense following the free throws. As a result the Mavs were forced into the half court, where Miami was able to keep them under control.

Ya think Mark Cuban's berating of the officials might have contributed to that free throw disparity?

748 Rearden Steel  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:55:35am

Good morning all.

Little humor to kick off hump day.

Brokeback al Zarqawi

749 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:56:16am

#729 American Infidel ~

It is luscious because it is fed well, watered regularly and lawnicured (as in pedicured/manicured)...

LOL! Perfect word!

I, too, am happy for the rain! And the lightning is supposed to be good for the flowers, too, although I don't quite remember why...

750 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:56:18am

PK!

Gotta match?

751 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:57:33am

Ha Steel,
great minds
Been posting that everywhere
for almost a week now
courtesy of LGF poster saylorfam
but
IT's STILL frikkin hilarious
thanks for posting it again
HOOHOOOhahahahHOOOahahha
ha
haha


ZARKIE SLEEPS WITH THE ARAFISHES!

752 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:58:40am

737 Peacekeeper 6/21/2006 05:50AM PDT
You need an immigrant pancreas to do the jobs American pancreasesesssesses won't do.


BIG PANCREAS IS RIPPING ME OFF

753 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:58:52am
754 TotallySirius  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:59:07am

#749 Chicago

Lightning "fixes" nitrogen into a form that precipitates into the falling raindrops thereby fertilizing the plants.

755 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:59:08am

#748 Rearden Steel

**APPLAUSE**

Mornin' ChoppedLiver#1!

756 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:59:09am

Mornin {Babba}!

Still waitin' to see Darla...

757 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:59:38am

#735 TotallySirius
Not a clue. I loose!
Where's it from?

758 Rearden Steel  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:59:39am

Sorry for the repost BZ. Just ran across it this morning and shot coffee out my nose.

759 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 3:59:40am

No smoking, try a less nasty habit, like nosepicking.

760 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:00:00am

Peacekeeper ~

Things are already out of hand here.

A good way to start the day, I'd say.

J.D. ~

Plaque in my closet:

One shoe can change your life.
Cinderella

Ha! I love that =)

761 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:00:30am

Mornin' J.D.!

You gotta match?

762 FrogMarch  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:01:03am

#25 Zombie

They got the shadow wrong, too. LOL!

763 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:01:35am

PK- how am I suppose to burn cars without a light?

764 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:02:08am

W!
{Sam}
how embarrasing.
I forgot!
I will do it today sweets

I do get confused and overwhelmed with mail
I get way too much
in fact
I still owe someone here
on LGF
a Jehovah Witness debunking mail
and I have no idea who it was
It wasn't a "regular" either
it was a name you harldy ever see

If you're out there
whosoever you may be
please send me a mail
and remind me
thanks

765 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:02:56am

#758 Rearden Steel
Dont be sorry
post that mofo everywhere!

766 TotallySirius  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:03:05am

#757 Babba

It is from "The Tick" cartoon series episode where Chairface Chippendale steals these super lenses(that amplify light) and tries to burn his name into the surface of the moon with a candle powered laser beam.

Hilarious show.

767 tokyobk  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:04:05am

#753 American

Same here, my great-grandfather was born in the former Austro-Hungarian empire (whose Jews were indeed called galitzianer). The town, Sombor, was Poland and now Ukraine. I am not sure non-Jews used this term.

There was an old song:

Every man is a man of honor
if he is a galitzianer

They were generally known as cultural mimics, being in the middle of many cultures and bridging both the Jewish and non-Jewish worlds through culture and trade.

768 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:04:34am

#754 TotallySirius ~

Thank you ~ I knew there was something about lightning and plants, I just didn't know what...

769 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:05:07am

IHTGBTWN.

770 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:06:19am
771 haakondahl  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:06:57am

Damn GW just said three very stupid things:
1. Detainees at Gtmo are "murderers" (not terrorists)
2. They need to be "tried in a US court of law" (not held over until they are determined not to be a thresat, one way or another)
3. He is waiting for SCOTUS TO "determine the appropriate venue" (instead of telling the courts to stay the Hell out of the war)

This is seismic. Or maybe it's just me shaking with rage.

772 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:09:27am
773 Rearden Steel  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:10:33am

#771

It's capitulation in an election year.

774 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:10:50am

...Or not.

Gotta love when Red Tape&treade; backfires on The Man.

775 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:11:00am

#770 American Infidel ~

Welll, I use 50 gallon drums (plastic) to capture rainwater

Hey, that's what my brother-in-law does - they have fabulous gardens and a pond, etc. and they capture the rainfall for additional watering.

You think of everything!

776 haakondahl  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:11:10am

#767 tokyobk

We should get together if you're still in/around Tokyo. I go up to Shinagawa twice a week--live in Yokosuka.

777 Roger  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:11:15am

#751 BabbaZee

ZARKIE SLEEPS WITH THE ARAFISHES!

I really did not need that visual! Gah! Gonna have to search the web for Jessica Alba to heal & cleanse my mind's photoplate.

778 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:11:48am
779 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:12:51am

#733 AI:

Thigh-high boots, all nice and shiny...

whoot!

OK, concentrating on this spreadsheet in front of me...ah yes, very interesting :P

780 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:13:00am

Why not just whip your plants? they are probably just a bunch of Pansies anyway...

781 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:13:49am
782 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:13:54am
783 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:14:21am

I need more coffee.

784 formercorpsman  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:14:25am

OT

Anyone catch Smerconish this morning?

785 TotallySirius  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:14:49am

One space themed song before I go.

By David Bowie

Ground Control to Major Tom
Ground Control to Major Tom
Take your protein pills
and put your helmet on

Ground Control to Major Tom
Commencing countdown,
engines on
Check ignition
and may God's love be with you

[spoken]
Ten, Nine, Eight, Seven, Six, Five, Four, Three, Two, One, Liftoff

This is Ground Control
to Major Tom
You've really made the grade
And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear
Now it's time to leave the capsule
if you dare

This is Major Tom to Ground Control
I'm stepping through the door
And I'm floating
in a most peculiar way
And the stars look very different today

For here
Am I sitting in a tin can
Far above the world
Planet Earth is blue
And there's nothing I can do

Though I'm past
one hundred thousand miles
I'm feeling very still
And I think my spaceship knows which way to go
Tell my wife I love her very much
she knows

Ground Control to Major Tom
Your circuit's dead,
there's something wrong
Can you hear me, Major Tom?
Can you hear me, Major Tom?
Can you hear me, Major Tom?
Can you...

Here am I floating
round my tin can
Far above the Moon
Planet Earth is blue
And there's nothing I can do.

786 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:15:05am
787 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:16:07am

Arabic translator needed. I found this picture of momma moonbat meeting with an Austrian official and I am wondering what that writing on her shirt says.
This may be a better view.

788 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:17:02am

I've always wanted to hear Bob Dylan preform Major Tom...

789 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:17:12am

#744 rin -Pods?! Don't want to take up Charles bandwidth, but if you could see you're way to e-mailing me, I'd appreciate it.
J.D. and PK - I don't NEED any more adventure, thank you both very much!

Never thought it'd be this frickin' difficult to move from NYC, MAYBE have the movers stop in MD to pick up my Mom's stuff and head straight for Charlotte. Wonder if Eisenhower had these sorts of logistical problems planning D-Day?!

790 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:17:52am
791 loppyd  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:19:36am

Good Morning One & All!

What's the good word on this beautiful first day of Summer?

792 TotallySirius  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:19:38am

#788 Dub-luv

Gaaah!

Bowie did have a certain empathy for Dylan though.

Oh, hear this Robert Zimmerman
I wrote a song for you
About a strange young man called Dylan
With a voice like sand and glue
Some words of truthful vengeance
They could pin us to the floor
Brought a few more people on
And put the fear in a whole lot more

Ah, Here she comes
Here she comes
Here she comes again
The same old painted lady
From the brow of a superbrain
She'll scratch this world to pieces
As she comes on like a friend
But a couple of songs
From your old scrapbook
Could send her home again

You gave your heart to every bedsit room
At least a picture on the wall
And you sat behind a million pair of eyes
And told them how they saw
Then we lost your train of thought
The paintings are all your own
While troubles are rising
We'd rather be scared
Together than alone

Ah, Here she comes
Here she comes
Here she comes again
The same old painted lady
From the brow of a superbrain
She'll scratch this world to pieces
As she comes on like a friend
But a couple of songs
From your old scrapbook
Could send her home again

Aoo

Now hear this Robert Zimmerman
Though I don't suppose we'll meet
Ask your good friend Dylan
If he'd gaze a while down the old street
Tell him we've lost his poems
So they're writing on the walls
Give us back our unity
Give us back our family
You're every nation's refugee
Don't leave us with their sanity

Ah, Here she comes
Here she comes
Here she comes again
The same old painted lady
From the brow of a superbrain
She'll scratch this world to pieces
As she comes on like a friend
But a couple of songs
From your old scrapbook
Could send her home again
Come on
A couple of songs
From your old scrapbook
Could send her home again
Oh, here she comes, (oh) here she comes
Oh, here she comes (oh)

793 Roger  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:19:50am

#781 ploome hineni, no it doesn't. While the world is full of people undeserving of eternal life, the Jewish people will be targeted.

794 Evan from NZ  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:20:41am

Hello dead-threaders:

Welcome to the Twilight Zone
The last two entries are doozies...

795 haakondahl  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:21:01am

#778 AI not kidding, yes at AUS speech. Rubbing wifes feet-will be ib abd oyt.

796 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:21:07am

Dirk 747,

Cuban certainly didn't help himself with the officials, but I think the FT disparity also stems from the Mavs' lack of presence in the paint. Nowitzki won't bang inside and Diop and Dampier have a limited offensive game. Shaq will also get calls even though he can't throw the ball in the ocean.

Dallas tried to shake the soft label, but they crumbled once they blew that big lead in Game 3. Psychologically, they were toast after Game 5. I had begun to admire their game after they beat the Spurs, but their childish behavior after Game 5 showed me they lack resolve, maturity and toughness.

Cuban is a joke. All the money in the world can't buy integrity. I hope the writers in Dallas take him to task. I'm going to go take a look at the Dallas papers.

797 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:21:38am

{BEFF}!

798 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:21:53am
799 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:21:53am

#787 Just A Grunt:

Arabic translator needed. I found this picture of momma moonbat meeting with an Austrian official and I am wondering what that writing on her shirt says.
This may be a better view.

Hmm, I'd be guessing, but how 'bout:

"I support the people who killed my son, whose memory I grossly exploit to support the people who killed my son"

800 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:21:57am

Oh and good morning Dubs, TotallySirius and everyone else I've missed! Hope youse'all have a great day!

801 haakondahl  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:22:46am

Leader of Austria just beat reporter by pointing oout that without America, europe would be "the tiniest fucking province of the USSR!" Okay, he didn't use that quote, but he wanted to.

802 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:23:48am

Good morning everybody,

I just sent the nice people at CBS a thoughtful little note to help with their geography problem,

Hey you clueless bunch of morons, that's a Japanese flag you put on the moon in the graphic about the Chinese plan for a lunar landing.

China, Japan, what's the difference? No wonder CBS is going down the tubes. Idiots.

I'm sure they will appreciate it in the spirit in which it was intended. I suppose it's understandable for the graphic artist who does their pictures to make such a mistake, after all, he's an art school graduate. But that nobody else at CBS noticed and did anythig about it is stunning.

803 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:24:21am

Loppy! How's the weather on the North SHore?

804 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:24:24am

Roots?

Polish/Lithuanian/Danish!

The worst there is.

805 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:24:53am
806 loppyd  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:24:58am

{BEFF}!

807 firegeezer  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:25:08am

One of the (few) grown-ups apparently arrived at CBS headquarters...the flag graphic has been removed.

808 Beach Lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:25:27am

Good Morning DDT!

Realwest

I have had lots of experience moving (about 13 times) and all but one to a different state, but we always had movers paid for by company. I always called for 3 estimates, they will give you dates that they will be there to pack (if you choose)and the day to load and to do whatever you want as far as picking up your Mother's things along the way. I always found it best to unpack my own things, but packing was too much! They can look through your place and estimate the # of boxes and which kind and price, but the van is weighed after loaded and you will be charged by that weight plus distance. Thats why its best to clean out everything first!
We never had a "bad" move and hardly anything damaged. But...it is expensive! But...call, bet they give FREE extimates.

Good Luck! One thing I know...everything is much easier down here! :>)

809 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:25:41am

Hey somebody at CBS just got a clue. The graphic has been taken down. I'm sure they will fix it real fast and put the Taiwanese flag up next. That's be really funny!

810 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:25:41am

Last time we supported the Chinese against Japan, a Democratic Japan(with US backing) against the Communist Chinese looks far more promising.

Round 1 can begin with that fat little focher in NK.

I kind of like the idea.

811 Carridine  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:25:55am

#475-Clemente: VERY GOOD!

Yes, a vampire nation-state casts no true shadow and engages in little or no reflection. Just 'Do what the ruling clique wants.'

Again, sweet distinction!

Saint Pancake! I missed you on my second go-round, so I'm saying 'Gmawing' to you here!
(I got an email from my son, long lost these 21 years... LONG story... but was ecstatic when I checked in here hours ago!)

812 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:27:08am
813 ronaldusmagnus  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:27:19am

The photo that is the original subject of this thread was finally removed by cbs just a few minutes ago.

Up all evening, all night and a good part of the morning.

Good grief.

814 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:28:19am
815 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:29:20am

Just imagine the reaction if they had put an Isreali flag on that graphic.

816 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:29:20am
817 westbankmama  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:29:37am

Good morning lizards, how is everyone doing?

818 XMangels  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:29:40am

realwest,

Preparation Q is underway.

Time is irrelavant.

How's it go "Let God decide"

Something like that.

Me, I'm just guessing.

819 Beach Lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:30:05am

Anyone out there know of a GOOD website that has funny greeting cards? Got to send one to my youngest today! FREE, of course!

820 Miss Trixie  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:30:29am

♪ Good morning {LGF}! ♪

Another beeyootiful day in Ottawa and it's already the middle of the week.

So it's all good.

:)

821 TotallySirius  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:31:15am

It wasn't CBS screwup,it was the Al-AP.

Fromthe link:

Editor's Note: A previous version of this story included a graphic of the Japanese flag instead of the Chinese flag. We regret the error.

And these people call themselves professionals.

Bwa hahahahahahaha

822 nonic  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:31:25am

Ha. Just reloaded the CBS site at 9:30 a.m. NYC-time, and the entire graphic is gone. Bunch of jerks.

823 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:32:31am
824 Goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:32:34am

#790 ploome hineni

My great-great-great grandparents immigrated in 1880 from Bohemia (now Czech Republic), which was also considered part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

A greatgrandmother immigrated from Strausbourg in 1912, when it was part of Germany. Six years later it was parts of France.

Finally, when tracing ancestors in America, beware of Viriginia. If the person was born before 1860, he or she may have actually been born in what is now West Virginia.

Nevermind that 19th century census-takers had handwriting like drunk spiders iceskating on the page and phonetic rather than accurate spelling skills...

825 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:32:53am

There was an old song:
Every man is a man of honor
if he is a galitzianer

I never heard it~
wish I did.

I missed too many posts
See you in a bit

826 Beach Lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:34:22am
We regret the error our supidity.

/there, fixed that for ya

827 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:34:34am

#814 AI:

How so?!?

Pedantic and tight with money, with a tendency to tell long boring stories that eventually end with no apparent point.

Oh, and hair growth in unsightly places.

I don't know what part to attribute where in the Polish/Lithuanian/Danish equation, but that sums it up :P

828 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:35:18am

CBS stands by the image, it has not yet been proven that that is not the Chinese flag...

829 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:36:06am

mornin' all

830 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:36:17am

Chinese plan a moonbase

831 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:36:18am

CBS All of the Fake but Accurate Reporting that is fit to be made up.

832 westbankmama  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:36:35am

Has this been mentioned on LGF before? A blogger wants to give out the names of the victims of 9/11 to 2996 bloggers, and each of us will profile one person, to be posted on September 11, 2006 (fifth anniversary). I have signed up already and written about it on my blog...

[Link: www.dcroe.com...]

Did Charles mention it on a day that I *gasp* missed LGF?

833 canadianconservative  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:37:24am

You mean the Chinse plan to visit the US moon colony in 2024?

By tipping their hand like that, they have just ensured that the United States will colonize the moon...Unless the Democrats get in, that is.

834 Asylum Aleikum  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:37:47am

I am beginning to miss Dan Rather:(.

835 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:37:52am
You know, the ones where he stood on the rubble of the WTC and said "Whatever it takes" and "You are either with us or against us", etc...

Bush never said those things down at the WTC.

836 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:38:09am

#787 Just_A_Grunt 6/21/2006 06:16AM PDT
Arabic translator needed. I found this picture of momma moonbat meeting with an Austrian official and I am wondering what that writing on her shirt says.
This may be a better view.


Look for LGF poster
Ashtaroot
if you see her
she can translate it

837 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:38:52am
838 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:38:56am

That's no moon...

839 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:39:46am

#787 Just A Grunt

Hmmm..let's see-I think it says "My Hero Is Ann Coulter", but my Arabic is fairly rusty...

840 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:40:25am

Caption for CBS photoshop

What the world would like if today's press had reported on WWII

841 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:41:21am

829 Writermom

Somehow... I doubt that.

*grin*

842 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:41:22am

#832 westbankmama
Thats the first I have heard of it
thanks for the link

843 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:41:26am

OT: EU Continues To Whine, Beg and Urge Money Continue to Be Sent to Palestinians...

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

844 freedom rings  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:43:51am

Here we go again:

WORLD
Another one of Saddam's lawyers killed
By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA - Associated Press Writer

Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 20:43 EDT

AP Photo: ALTERNATE CROP ** Khamis Hameed al-Obeidi, a lawyer who repr...
BAGHDAD, Iraq — One of Saddam Hussein's main lawyers was shot to death Wednesday after he was abducted from his Baghdad home by men wearing police uniforms, the third killing of a member of the former leader's defense team since the trial started some eight months ago.

[Here's the inevitable]:

Bushra al-Khalil, a Lebanese member of the defense team, ...said the Americans bore responsibility for al-Obeidi's death because they decided to stop providing protection for defense lawyers. The U.S. has denied this.

"Lifting the security of the defense team was an introduction to assassinations," al-Khalil told The Associated Press.

Mohammed Moneib, an Egyptian lawyer for Saddam and co-defendant Taha Yassin Ramadan, said [Judge] Abdel-Rahman was also partly responsible for al-Obeidi's death because of the way he deals with defense attorneys. After an angry exchange during a hearing last week, Abdel-Rahman, a Kurd, accused Moneib of seeking to create "chaos" in the courtroom.

"His accusations are a sort of incitement," Moneib said from Cairo. "The way he deals with the defense, defendants and witnesses could incite madmen or criminals to commit such crimes."
[Link: www.crisscross.com...]

845 Lively  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:44:59am

AI:

Welll, I use 50 gallon drums (plastic) to capture rainwater...I am hoping for lots of rain, since the drums are all waiting to receive water at the ends of the gutters...


I had to do this during the last big hurricane. We were without power and water for 1 week. I used the rain water at the end of the gutters to wash our dishes. Sounds kinda gross, but we're all still here alive and kicking. Sometimes you do what you have to. :)

846 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:45:49am

#839 Writermom

Hmmm..let's see-I think it says "My Hero Is Ann Coulter", but my Arabic is fairly rusty...


Speaking of Ann I read "Godless" the weekend and there is certainly more then Jersey Girls in that book that ought to cause liberals many a sleepless night. In fact unless you were looking for it you might just skim past the reference to the Witches of East Brunswick.
So thanks liberals for whining so much that it pushed the book to the #1 spot.
BTW how is that "Crashing the Gates" book doing?

847 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:46:03am

realwest

Pods suck.

848 Miss Trixie  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:47:08am

As to the topic of cooking ribs waaay upthread, this is what I do.

I buy DANISH baby back ribs, remove the thin membrane on the back, marinate overnight in garlic and chilies, season with Montreal Steak spice and MORE garlic, then roast until tender - about 45 mins.

DEE-licious~garlic breath~

:)

849 3 wood  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:47:17am

Good Morning dead threaders.

Hey loppyd. I've been real busy and have not had time to check the standings. Who is in first place in the American League East?

850 Evan from NZ  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:47:56am

If there are any takers, I'll quote a piece from that fun-filled blog whose address I posted above:

from "Orientalism and Ankie Sprinkler":

But neither Spitzer nor her husband were born in Israel, or had any prior connections with the Middle East. Andre Spitzer was originally from Romania. Ankie was Dutch. They emigrated to Israel (Spitzer as an 11 year old with his mother, Ankie with her adult husband) under the sectarian privileges accorded to Jews by the so-called ‘Law of Return’. Any Jew anywhere in the world has the “right” to supposedly “return” to a place they have never been, while the indigenous Arab population, expelled in huge numbers in 1948, has no right of return at all, and to this day rots in squalid refugee camps in Lebanon and other states bordering Israel. What does Ankie Spitzer think about that pitiless injustice? Does she think it wrong that she enjoys her racist and sectarian privileges at the expense of Arabs? We don’t know because no one thinks to ask her. Questions like this lie outside the Orientalist frame of discourse. Israelis are victims and innocent; Arabs are aggressors and guilty.

In journalistic prose, Reeve describes life for the young Ankie on first moving to Israel:

Ankie, a vivacious free spirit, returned with Andre to Israel and the couple moved to the north, on the border with Lebanon, where Spitzer founded the Israeli fencing academy in a group of derelict buildings. It was a tough, hard life, 50 kilometres from the nearest town, with a five o’clock curfew because of roving bandits.

Sadly, “it became too dangerous” and they had to move, but Ankie Spitzer recalls how ‘the year that we lived there was the most beautiful and most wonderful year of my life’.

Delightful. But there are one or two questions which ought to be put to Ankie Spitzer. Those “roving bandits”, for example. They wouldn’t by any chance be dispossessed Palestinian Arabs violently expelled from their homeland by Jewish racists? And that enigmatic “group of derelict buildings”. Not by any chance one of the innumerable Arab villages and homes ethnically cleansed in 1948?

So many questions.

Questions never asked.

And here's the blogger's version of Spielberg's Munich set in an alternate universe. "Jews = Nazis" comparisons follow.

This man is one fucked-up SOB. Anyone care to argue on that point?

851 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:48:53am
852 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:50:33am

844 Freedom

is it wrong of me to think that Saddam is behind the killing of his own lawyers, in order to drag on his case, and try to paint himself as the real victim of the evil US?

853 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:52:33am
854 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:53:11am

#851 jwf

Excellent...

855 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:53:15am

846 Just A Grunt

When i bought the book, i expected there to be chapters devoted to those 'ladies,' based on all the whining and attacks from the Left... but it is just a few paragraphs lumping them in with other people to show a general main point.

It is a good read, i thought.

856 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:53:36am
857 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:54:37am

[yawn]

Morning, everyone. The son woke up at 4-dark-thirty and started yelling, so I've had no sleep. Someone give me toothpicks to keep my eyes open.

858 realwest  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:56:21am

All Your Flags Are Belong To Us!

859 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:57:09am

857 vxbush

That's no good... They do make little neck worn alarms to keep you from nodding off...

when your head goes down, the alarm sounds to wake you up.

designed to keep people from falling asleep while they drive.

somtimes, though, i think that if I had one it wouldn't sound like an alarm as much as morse code.

860 fraxinus americana  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:57:51am

Morning all.

I thought the moon blasted out of earths orbit 7 years ago w/ Moon base Aplha already on it so there China.

:D :D :D

861 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:58:37am
862 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:58:58am

The pods talk reminded me of Podlings...

Anyone else remember The Dark Crystal?

863 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:59:02am

#859 lance

That's no good... They do make little neck worn alarms to keep you from nodding off...

when your head goes down, the alarm sounds

I believe I've dated a few women wearing those...

864 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 4:59:52am

#837 AI:

That's age bud, get used to hair sprouting where no hair has been seen before...
*snickers*

Or to stay with the moon/space theme, the hair is on a mission to boldly grow where no hair has grown before! :P

865 Evan from NZ  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:00:57am

Re: my previous post:

If one needed further proof of Ellis Sharp's lunacy, see this piece:Even David Grossman ain't pure enough for him:

First of all David Grossman is a liar on the scale of David Irving. "Something very profound happened to Israel during the six day war [of 1967]. For the first time we seized land, we took land by conquest,” Grossman told the dramatist David Hare. But in 1948 Jews owned just 7% of Palestine. (Incidentally, they didn’t just own it. In their eyes they’d “redeemed” it, which meant it would never again be owned by Arabs.) The state of Israel was founded by violent, sectarian, racist Jews, who seized by brute force the land of the indigenous Arab population, and expelled most of them. This was not an accident of history but had been planned long in advance. Theodor Herzl, the father of Zionism, laid out his dream of expelling the Arabs from Palestine just as explicitly as Hitler set out his desire to exterminate Jews.

You can almost hear him frothing at the keyboard.

866 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:01:20am

Since i have a biased opinion of Ann Coulter, I will not respond to anything the cows on Chris Matthew's Tee-ball have to say.

867 FrogMarch  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:01:25am

I THINK CBS DID THIS ON PURPOSE.

Think about it... Dan Rather is in the news again - So - CBS makes a silly mistake that makes CBS look like a pack of dumb blondes, but oopsie *giggle* CBS knows this stunt will be worth it if only it masks Dan Rather and that pesky forged document story.

868 formercorpsman  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:01:29am

#805 American Infidel

Morning drive talker in Pa/NJ/DE out of Philly.

I don't agree with everything he says, but he has been a constant voice against terror.

Had a segment with two former terrorist. I thought it was good stuff, interesting segment.

I know some on the board have referenced him before.

I think he can be streamed online as well.

869 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:01:44am

lance

No, alarms are *bad*. They freak me out too much.

CTP

Too much info, dude... :-)

AI

Chris Matthews should be flogged for even raising that question.

870 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:02:24am

683 ctp

well, when they ask you what you do for a living, don't start giving them one of your math lectures.

just lie an say that you're a "Professional Wrestler"

871 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:02:28am
872 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:02:39am

#851 JammieWearingFool 6/21/2006 06:48AM PDT
Heh.

Talk about wild-eyed radicals.

Markos: The Dudmaker
reminds me of
an unhinged
Duckie
from
Pretty in Pink
[Link: www.geocities.com...]

873 firegeezer  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:03:22am

#819 Beach Lover:
If your child is a grown-up, go to
[Link: www.hellocrazy.com...]

Free and hilarious.

874 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:05:02am

BZ

Wow, you're right--I never noticed the similarity before! How freaky.

875 Geepers  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:05:04am

Morning vxbush.

876 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:05:13am

865 Evan from NZ

...the land of the indigenous Arab population...

The only land with an indigenous Arab population is Arabia. All the other lands, from Morrocco to Iraq, where Arabs now live are occupied territories, and that includes the Arab occupiers of Judea & Samaria.

877 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:05:46am
878 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:05:46am

AI
WTF is that talk from Matthews? I bet he violated umpty ump sexual harassment policies. Not that he'll pay a price.

879 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:05:57am

vxbush

I beg to differ. Because of that damn alarm, there was no, um, info... ;)

880 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:06:24am

Lance, CTP

Heh--maybe "professional wrestler" should be a euphemism for "mathematics/stats professor."

Somehow I don't see my college advisor wearing a onesie, though. :-)

881 fraxinus americana  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:07:20am

#866 lance

I will not respond to anything the cows on Chris Matthew's Tee-ball have to say.

Don't cha mean bloated bovine blovaiters

882 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:07:36am

#874 vxbush
first thing I thought
first time I saw him,
was:
"Damn, Dickie Duckie!"
LOL

883 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:07:53am

#861 American Infidel

Since some Lizardoids brought up Ann Coulter, check out what Chris Matthews did the other day:

In a related story, Andrew Sullivan thinks Chris Matthews is a hunky teddy bear.

884 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:08:21am

ctp,

Read the comments over at the Tim Blair Kos post.

Hilarious.

After yesterday, I have a hunch Kos isn't going to be enjoying much more sycophantic press coverage.

A certain level of radioactivity.

885 Beach Lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:08:21am

#873 firegeezer

thanks! Yes he is a grown up (sort of, heh) and he works with computers, so didn't want to do a lame one. He already thinks I'm tech challenged ~

886 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:08:26am

Geepers

Hey there, sir. Still planning on coming in this weekend, but we may be leaving Saturday night just after dinner. Plans aren't finalized, though.

CTP

Oh, I'm sure your imagination was up to the task. :-)

887 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:08:42am

VX that was my little sisters favorite movie
so I have have seen it 100 times

888 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:08:50am

Good Morning {My Peeps}
How is everyone this fine day?

889 Evan from NZ  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:09:34am

Kenneth,

No need to convince me - I know my history, unlike someone else we know. If you go to his site, you'll find that every mention of Israelis or Israel is prefaced with "white European racist secterian imperialist colonialist". Buzzword bingo enthusiasts take note, here's a site tailor-made for you.

890 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:09:52am
891 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:09:58am

Kenneth ~ Good Morning

In a related story, Andrew Sullivan thinks Chris Matthews is a hunky teddy bear.

gag.

892 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:10:01am

#870 lance

Heh™. I don't teach math, I teach stats (there's a difference)...

I'm not big enough to be a pro wrestler. Now, I could kick some midget wrestler ass, though...

#880 vxbust

I guess I could change my nic to ctpw... ;) But, I refuse to wear a onesie. Gotta go with the shorts (baggy, not into the male bikini look)...

893 Roger  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:10:18am

#822 nonic, I just loaded it and there is a different flag! :-)

With:

Editor's Note: A previous version of this story included a graphic of the Japanese flag instead of the Chinese flag. We regret the error.
894 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:10:51am

BZ

And to think, I've never seen it; just the photos for advertisements and such.

895 Geepers  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:10:54am

Sic 'em BabbaZee.

896 m  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:11:01am

#862 W-lover

Anyone else remember The Dark Crystal?

Remember it? I have the dvd :D Jim Henson is a genius ;-)

Morning y'all!

897 Roger  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:11:23am

The shadow is still low budget.

898 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:11:49am

881 frax

people who insult my dear Ann Coulter do not deserve the mental power it takes to come up with the alliterations.

899 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:12:07am

Morning all,

It's gonna be a beautiful day in NYC again.. less humidity and more comfortable.

Finally planned my annual trip to hit a bunch of US national parks (new camera lens and lots of film to use). This year's itiniary: Bryce, Capitol Reef, and Grand Staircase/Escalante NM. Might even stop and see Zion again. The sucky part is that airfare is a lot higher than it was even a just week ago dangfarnit... Ah, but it will be worth it... :)

900 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:12:23am

So now the Chinese are landing on Saturn's moon Dione...

Way to go, AP!

901 formercorpsman  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:12:43am

christheprofessor

CBS stands by the image, it has not yet been proven that that is not the Chinese flag...


Alright, that was worthy of some coffee up my sinuses.

902 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:12:48am
903 freedom rings  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:13:07am

Here's a fine howdy-do, Aussie newspaper claims exclusive:

Iraq: US may be asked to leaveGreg Sheridan, Foreign Editor
June 21, 2006
THE level of violence in some areas of Iraq is worsening dramatically and US forces may soon be asked to leave by the Iraqi Government.
In an exclusive interview with The Australian, former US deputy secretary of state Richard Armitage has given a gloomy assessment of the situation.
...Although George W. Bush had a good week, with the death of al-Qa'ida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and progress with the Iraqi Government , Mr Armitage believes Iraq is still a big drag on Republicans.
He said "many Republicans are running away from the President" as they prepared for the forthcoming mid-term congressional elections.
Mr Armitage was equally gloomy about Afghanistan, especially in the south, where violence was worsening and Australia was deploying a new provincial reconstruction team. "It'll be heavy lifting for them," he said. "Five years after the overthrow of the Taliban, the ordinary people don't see much change in their lives." [Link: www.theaustralian.news.com.au...]

FWIW: Just the recent history on Richard Armitage-Wikipedia source
He signed "The Project for the New American Century" letter (PNAC Letter) to President Bill Clinton in 1998. The letter urged Clinton to target the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime from power in Iraq due to erosion of the Gulf War Coalition's containment policy and the resulting possibility that Iraq might create weapons of mass destruction. The letter's intended purpose of removing Hussein was to protect Israel and other U.S. allies in the region including oil-producing Arab countries.
During the 2000 U.S. Presidential election campaign Armitage served as a foreign policy advisor to George W. Bush as part of a group led by Condoleezza Rice that called itself The Vulcans.

...Journalist Bob Woodward of the Washington Post revealed on Nov. 15th 2005 that a "a government official with no ax to grind" leaked him the identity of outed CIA officer Valerie Plame in mid-June 2003. On March 2, 2006, bloggers discovered that "Richard Armitage" fit the spacing on a redacted court document, suggesting he was a source for the Plame leak.[1] Two journalists (Eric Umansky and David Corn) honed on to Richard Armitage as the source of the information; according to an April 2006 Vanity Fair article (published March 14, 2006), former Washington Post executive editor Ben Bradlee said in an interview "That Armitage is the likely source is a fair assumption," though Bradlee later told the Post that he "[did] not recall making that precise statement" in the interview.

Others later suggested that Armitage discouraged Novak from writing about Plame,[2] and has been a cooperative witness in the investigation.[1]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

904 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:13:07am

ctp

Oh, but I would *love* to see you in the ring with Hulk Hogan, holding a calculator and a CRC manual with distribution tables in it, ready to hit him in the head.

"No, no, no! Not a uniform distribution! Normal!"

B)

905 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:13:20am

PEE-EEEPS!

906 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:13:27am

892 ctp

i've taken both, and I agree, there's a difference. (Stats was easier)

907 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:13:29am

#787 Just_A_Grunt
Mother Sheehan's shirt says " We will not be quiet"

*Translation provided by one of my Arabic Muslim guys that work for me.*

908 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:13:56am

YAMATO DAMASHI!

The represents a bold first step toward the Greater Saturnian Co-Prosperity Sphere.

909 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:14:28am
910 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:15:53am

what an odd parking formula:

1 Parking Space per 1,430 Sq Ft of Floor Area

what a strange number to arrive at.

911 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:16:37am

Chris really doesn't strike me as the type who should be insulting anyone's looks.

912 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:16:55am

#907 Village Idiot's Apprentice ~

Ahh, thanks for that. Well, at least she acknowledges that everyone is saying:

"SHUT UP!"

913 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:17:17am

OT: Useful web site when people start spewing enviropornographic bile...Junk Science.

[Link: www.junkscience.com...]

914 W-lover  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:17:18am

Happy Birthday to all the Cancer Lizards!

915 m  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:17:22am

#892 christheprofessor

I'm not big enough to be a pro wrestler. Now, I could kick some midget wrestler ass, though...

Oh that's cute. I just gotta visual ;-)

{CtP}! I bet you don't even spill your wine!

916 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:17:23am

Wrong flag
AND
wrong moon?
hahaha
bufoons!
poltroons!

917 tigger2005  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:18:06am

Let's get busy and build our lunar base. Then when the Chinese finally show up, we can invite them in for tea.

918 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:18:27am

Smeagol @ 905
STFU!

919 m  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:20:15am

#913 WriterMom

OT: Useful web site when people start spewing enviropornographic bile...Junk Science.

Thanks for that! I think it'll come in handy.

And the DDT'ers might like the gif they have posted... DDT- a weapon of mass survival.

Ain't it the truth.

920 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:20:22am

#889 Evan from NZ

Speaking of history, I just finished reading Michael Oren's "Six Days of War". Excellent book, if you haven't read it. I was deeply moved by his description of how the Israeli soldiers felt as they liberated (yes, that's the correct verb) Jerusalem.

Interesting historical facts:

- Egypt, Jordan & Syria all attacked Israel before Israel attacked them
- the official orders for Egyptian, Jordanian & Syrian armies was to deliberately attack civilians.
- Arab officers of Egypt & Syria disserted their posts
- the Arab commanders lied to their superiors on the progress of the war, and the Arab leaders lied to their people, to each other, and to the UN

Some things never change...

921 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:20:23am
922 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:20:26am

WriterMom

I used to read that site every day. It is a fantastic site, although I wish the editor/author had the time to go through and mark those articles that he thinks include good science and those that are out-and-out junk. His editorial comments are good but having a visual would be nice.

BZ

I'm thinking some graphics intern made up this image, someone who is about 19 and went to public school. The editor who reviewed the article would be, I'm guessing 25 and avoided science classes at all costs.

923 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:20:32am

Let's get busy and build our lunar base. Then when the Chinese finally show up, we can invite them in for tea. we cans say: " But I thought number 23 was Pork Lo Mein! And what the hell are those things?"


/racists

924 Roger  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:20:34am

And still Dione although it looks like a different picture of Dione at a slightly different rotation.

925 jaynumber13  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:21:37am

Holy lots of comments.

926 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:22:59am

#884 jwf

Will do... Looking forward to it...

Just looked, and I agree with your assessment. The more they see of Koshole, the more they realize what a kook he is...

#901 formercorpsman (pronounced "former corpse man" according to the ignorant idiot I heard on the radio the other day)

Glad to be of service... I'll be here all week... ;)

927 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:23:01am

jaynumber13

No, no, no! It's:

Holy lots of comments, Batman!

928 Geepers  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:23:39am

vxbush (#886),

Hey there, sir. Still planning on coming in this weekend

Excellent! Just got a couple of more confirmations this morning.Which makes about 30. Really looking forward to meeting a bunch of the new Lizards.

From Eight States and Germany.

Mid-West Lizardoid Minions Unite.

This Weekend

The 2006 LGFOhio BBQ Extravaganza!

June 23,24,25.

929 Evan from NZ  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:23:39am

Kenneth,

I've had a browse through Oren's book - but mean to read it soon. Thanks.

930 freedom rings  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:24:02am

Memo to CBS! You still have:

1) the wrong moon

2) the shadow in the wrong position


/Nominating zombie for editing position

931 Lively  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:24:37am

#892 CTP

Heh™. I don't teach math, I teach stats (there's a difference)...


I once knew a professor who taught Greek, and I told him, "All the Greek that I know...I learned in my Statistics class." ;)

932 FlyingTigress  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:25:08am

#860

I'm sorry. We went off into a tangential discussion about "60's Sci-Fi TV" and lame aliens yesterday.

(gag... Space: 1999. I remember when the infamous Fred Freiberger1 and Martin Landau were interviewed about how S:99 was going to be a better, more metrosexual (to use a current term -- less 'macho' to use the actual word used by them) science fiction series than Star Trek.)


1 The Producer for the nauseating ST:TOS 3rd season.

933 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:25:29am

VX
It's still lame!
A person can read the caption of the picture they are using ~

Saturn's moon Dionne
Flag of Japan

Our Moon
Flag of China

What this means
is they cant,
wont,
or dont
read.

Woe unta youse,
Gramscian pamphlet takers, illiterati!
Whores of ignorance and the caliphate!

Fuck the illuminati
you fools
LOL!

It's the illiterati
that will get you killed

934 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:25:57am

freedom rings

A great idea, but Zombie would be working overtime trying to fix all the errors. Better to have an entire lizard army there.

935 godfrey  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:26:16am

AI

Talk about a silver spoon:

Carlson is the son of Richard W. Carlson, who was president and CEO of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting from 1992 to 1997 and former U.S. Ambassador to the Seychelles. His stepmother is Patricia Carlson, heiress to the Swanson frozen-food fortune.

Nice work if you can get it. As for his education, look at the bopping around:

Carlson completed private secondary education at the elite St. George's School, Newport, Rhode Island. He then attended Trinity College in Connecticut for four years, but dropped out without obtaining a degree. Carlson describes his college experience thus:

"After four years, I had met a lot of interesting people, gone to a couple of classes and restored a motorcycle, and that was it. And so I wasted my time at college."

So Dad forces him finally to earn some dough, and he gets some bit parts in journalism. This is evidently enough grist for his weighty insight:

In 2003, he wrote a book about his television news experiences, titled Politicians, Partisans and Parasites: My Adventures in Cable News.

Insight, no. Adventures of Tuckleberry Spin, yes. What kind of spin, you ask?

Carlson has stated that while he votes, and cares deeply about conservative ideas, he does not care about the success or failure of any political party.

The impression here isn't flattering. Still, Tucker's supposedly a well-bred type. Why then does he resort to insulting Ms. Coulter and use "manners" to cover his cowardice?

He could easily have said, "Excuse me, isn't this the political talk-show, Hardball?"

936 wargammer2005  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:26:52am

but, but, but ...

our moon is an artificial construct, made a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...

[Link: www.doomsdayguide.org...]

(LOLOLOL)

937 fraxinus americana  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:26:53am

From the link below burried way down the web site:

Balram was arrested Aug. 12, the day he allegedly held the girl and her family hostage for two hours after they confronted him. They eventually broke free after he allegedly threatened to shoot them. They ran out of the house and into a nearby car, and Balram shot himself in the face, the girl testified

.

I think this reporter used up alotment of "allegedly" for the rest of the year.

[Link: timesunion.com...]

What no ACLU no NOW... oh yeah silly frax the rapist is an immigrant.

938 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:27:13am

#907 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Mother Sheehan's shirt says " We will not be quiet"

*Translation provided by one of my Arabic Muslim guys that work for me.*

Can you ask your co-worker to translate "Shut the f*ck up you stupid bitch!"? I want to send Cindy a new T-shirt...

939 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:27:45am

'Morning, all.

940 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:27:49am

What I want to know is, how the heck did Zombie find the original Dione photo?

941 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:28:59am

#904 vxbush

LOL! I've actually been in a bar with the Hulkster (the Yucatan Liquor Stand in Tampa), but I can't say I got to talk, drink, or wrassle with him...

#906 lance

Agreed. I keep telling my students that stat is easy, once you get that insight or gestalt...

#915 {m}

LOL. I can hold my wine in one hand and kick midget arse with the other. But, put a laptop in front of me, and the wine just flies out of the glass into the keyboard..

942 red satellite  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:29:22am

Let's put up a picture of the CBS logo-...you know the one with the Peacock.

943 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:29:47am
944 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:29:58am

#916, BabbaZee

Wrong flag
AND
wrong moon?

Yep, it's not even the Earth's moon as we discovered last night...

945 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:30:09am

#935 godfrey

This is a family blog, so please refrain from writing Mr F. Carlson's first name.

946 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:30:22am

941 CTP

math, you always had to hunt for the answer.. i always thought that with stats, you HAD the answer, you just had to reogranize the data to make it clear.

947 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:31:40am

In other news, Brit Hume on FNC asked Juan Williams if he found Helen Thomas attractive. After conjuring up the image and supressing the urge to vomit, Juan said, "It doesn't matter if I do or don't, Brit. Helen is already spoken for."

948 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:31:48am

CTP

Any gestalt wisdom for testing two alpha coefficients, then? That's today's project, in between rebuilding a computer.

949 XMangels  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:32:08am

Now, Dasher! now, Dancer! now, Prancer! now Vixen!
On! Comet, on! Cupid, on! Donder and Blixen--

On to 1000 all...

950 formercorpsman  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:32:35am

American Infidel

I actually do think he has a pod cast.

Once it gets to that, I am out of the loop.

Again, I don't go with all of his points of view, but he is solid when it comes to this.

1210 am, philly.

951 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:32:47am

#944 Dar ul Harb
Amazing.

952 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:33:05am

#942 red peacock:

Let's put up a picture of the CBS logo-...you know the one with the Peacock.

ROFLMAO!

953 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:33:09am

Man, CBS has really gone downhill since they started easing Dan Rather out.

/ducking

954 J.D.  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:33:10am

ctp

A WARNING, ctp!
Please!
I beg you!

955 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:33:44am

Lance

math, you always had to hunt for the answer.

Tsk tsk tsk! Silly boy, the answers are always in the back of the book!

956 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:34:06am

[clunk]

957 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:34:20am

#931 Lively

Heh™ If you need an advanced course in Greek, take a grad level Econ course... ;)

958 haakondahl  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:34:21am

Hey! Some good news! Kim Dae Jung, Ex-PM of South Lorea, has postponed a meeting with somebody in the North due to "tensions" over the impending (possible) missile launch. Nice to see at last SOMEBODY in South Korea is working for the right frigging team!

959 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:35:08am
960 m  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:35:29am

Uganda police ban playing pool in the daytime

KAMPALA (Reuters) - Ugandan police have banned people from playing pool during the daytime because it encourages crime, local media said Wednesday.
...
"They also use this as a meeting place to make plans of robbing people of their property at night," he told the Daily Monitor newspaper. "We are not banning the sport, but we are stopping people from playing it during the day."

In other news... the daytime crime rate shot up because everybody was bored!

961 sngnsgt  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:35:54am
962 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:36:02am

955 vxbush

exactly... you had to hunt for them.. *grin*

963 WriterMom  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:36:14am

#938 kenneth

ROFL.

How about one that says "Yes-I still have my clitoris".

964 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:36:24am

#937 fraxinus americana

Allegedly shot himself in the face.

965 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:36:36am
966 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:37:04am

#940, vxbush

What I want to know is, how the heck did Zombie find the original Dione photo?

Zombie had a little help.

It was a team effort.

967 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:37:12am

#937 fraxinus americana

I think this reporter used up alotment of "allegedly" for the rest of the year.

If something is "allegedly alleged," does that make it a fact? Enquiring minds want to know...

968 XMangels  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:37:19am
969 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:37:36am

960 m

so... rather than stop the criminals, they're going to ban playing pool.

*shakes head* I... i can't even come up with a snarky response to that...

the stupidity is mind numbing.

970 m  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:37:57am

#958 haakondahl

Nice to see at last SOMEBODY in South Korea is working for the right frigging team!

Actually, he got a package deal from Travelocity and he has to take advantage of it by the end of the month.

;-)

971 BabbaZee  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:38:28am

#963 WriterMom 6/21/2006 07:36AM PDT
How about one that says "Yes-I still have my clitoris".

I love you writermom
ROTFF!

972 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:38:31am

963 WriterMom


How about one that says "Yes-I still have my clitoris".

I'm guessing Cindy hasn't figure out what to do with hers.

973 LanceKates  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:39:13am

*sigh* three times now i've had to tell a client manager that I can't do their files because the surveys do not show the property lines.

three times.

I just got an email from them saying that these sites need to go out and that I need to bring the files to them so we can figure out why I havne't been able to get them out yet.


Be back in a whie.

974 Paul  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:39:45am

Wrong flag, wrong moon and wrong shadow.
Dan Rather leaves and CBS goes to hell.

975 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:39:49am

Seen one moon you seen 'em all.

976 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:40:06am

#946 lance

math, you always had to hunt for the answer.. i always thought that with stats, you HAD the answer, you just had to reogranize the data to make it clear.

I don't really get that, but if it makes you feel better about it, so be it... ;)

977 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:40:18am

#966 Dar ul harb ~

Great work!

Go Team Go!

978 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:40:21am
979 Lively  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:40:35am

#957 CTP

Heh™ If you need an advanced course in Greek, take a grad level Econ course... ;)


LOL. I may not need to...my kid is an Economics Major (junior year)...I'll let her handle the advanced translations.

980 m  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:40:38am

#961 sngnsgt

U.S. peace activist Cindy Sheehan of Vacaville, California, speaks to leftist protesters in downtown Vienna, Austria, Wednesday, June 21, 2006, as they rally against U.S. President George W. Bush's visit. President Bush is in Vienna to attend the EU-US summit.

How dare he attend the EU-US summit! Shehag has found her calling it seems.

981 vxbush  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:40:41am

Dar ul Harb

Ah, okay, thanks! didn't realize all the work was up-thread...

982 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:41:14am
983 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:41:21am

As zombie said:

The power of distributed intelligence.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

984 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:41:29am

#978 American Infidel

Baddd Kenneth Baddd ! ! !

Hey, WriterMom started it!

985 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:41:53am
986 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:42:11am

#972 Kenneth:

How about one that says "Yes-I still have my clitoris".

I'm guessing Cindy hasn't figure out what to do with hers.

UGH! Please, let not explore this topic any further.

I feel violently ill after reading that...

987 XMangels  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:42:39am
988 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Jun 21, 2006 5:42:43am