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1 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 8:50:41pm

Thanks, Charles.

2 Challenger  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 8:50:58pm

The fighters of foo. Excellent!

3 DesertSage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 8:51:07pm

I've always wanted to fight Foo...

4 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 8:53:31pm

Charles- you ROCK!

5 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 8:53:43pm

When I think Foo Fighters I think F-16.

/I don't know why.

6 jwbaumann  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 8:55:18pm

OT

Just returned from the Minneapolis premiere of Indoctrinate U at the Oak Street Cinema. Evan Coyne Maloney spoke for about 35 minutes after the showing. Very well done - puts Michael Moore to shame. See it if you can.

7 albusteve  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 8:56:03pm

whoa...thats not the subdudes...

8 Dartmouth  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 8:56:16pm

Robert Spencer spoke at Dartmouth this evening. Outstanding talk, and surprisingly well-received (apart from the boycott). Thanks for your coverage of the INtolerance across the country.

9 Dartmouth  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 8:58:17pm

Also...MAN! I wish I could shred like that...

10 Macker  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 8:58:20pm

And now for some GOOD news.
I had the angiogram today; the cardiologist found no significant blockages. So he said I'm a lucky man. He want to work with me to develop a plan to lose the weight I've carried for all these years.
Truly, I'm blessed today, what with the soreness of the groin area. Thanks Lizardoids!

11 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 8:58:57pm

#8 Dartmouth

Robert Spencer spoke at Dartmouth this evening. Outstanding talk, and surprisingly well-received (apart from the boycott). Thanks for your coverage of the INtolerance across the country.

Give us details!

12 MrTunes  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:00:54pm

the Foo are legit. Grohl is super-legit. It is hard for me to say which I like better: the self-titled debut or The Colour and the Shape. One by One is also good. Either way, Grohl is the engine of a very, very good rock band. Unique sound, unrelenting percussion, masterful riffs...the Foo Fighters bring it, and bring it with authority.

13 Charles  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:01:14pm

By the way, my email at c h a r l e s (at) lgf.com has been malfunctioning all afternoon for some reason, since about 2 pm. I'm trying to get it straightened out.

14 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:04:07pm

re: #10 Macker

Mazel tov! That is the best new...now you can exhale.

15 Charles  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:06:21pm

Glad to hear that, Macker.

I don't share my personal life much because there are too many creeps out there who will use it against me, but if you're the praying sort, my mother could use your prayers. She's been diagnosed with liver cancer, has already had one operation, and is now going through chemotherapy.

16 pat  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:06:59pm

I was always fascinated by the Foo Fighters (not the group.lol)

17 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:07:31pm
18 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:07:58pm

re: #6 jwbaumann

OT

Just returned from the Minneapolis premiere of Indoctrinate U at the Oak Street Cinema. Evan Coyne Maloney spoke for about 35 minutes after the showing. Very well done - puts Michael Moore to shame. See it if you can.

Here is the website for the documentary

19 squarepeg  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:08:21pm

Video no longer available. That was fast.

20 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:08:52pm
21 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:09:07pm

Great song. The bass line in the beginning that comes back in the chorus is the hook. And Grohl can sing/scream like that live which is amazing. Screaming is hard on singers. Most can get up for it in the studio but have to tone it down for the road show or they'll turn into a Brian Johnson sounding frog. Grohl is a world class screamer. Ian Gillan being the world record holder though. I thought that dude's screaming was going to cause the roof of Cobo to resonate and cave in on us.

22 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:09:29pm

Good news Macker.
Charles, will include you and your Mom in thoughts and prayers.

23 albusteve  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:09:47pm

re: #15 Charles

Glad to hear that, Macker.

I don't share my personal life much because there are too many creeps out there who will use it against me, but if you're the praying sort, my mother could use your prayers. She's been diagnosed with liver cancer, has already had one operation, and is now going through chemotherapy.

dear old mom...mine is 86...I feel for you

24 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:10:19pm

I'm sure your mother will have a flood of prayers now, {Charles}.

25 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:10:25pm

I believe in the power of prayer.

26 Lively  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:10:29pm

*prays for Charles' family member*

Back on topic:
Why aren't keyboards/pianos in bands anymore?

27 pat  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:10:31pm

re: #15 Charles

Charles we will put you and your mother in Sunday;s prayer list.

28 lummox  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:10:47pm

[Link: www.imao.us...]

America cannot win the "War on Fire"!

Worth a look. The comments are hilarious.

Finally got the linky to work, phew.

29 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:10:53pm

Nice!

30 Thanos  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:11:31pm

re: #15 Charles

Glad to hear that, Macker.

I don't share my personal life much because there are too many creeps out there who will use it against me, but if you're the praying sort, my mother could use your prayers. She's been diagnosed with liver cancer, has already had one operation, and is now going through chemotherapy.

Charles, so sorry to hear that, I will certainly keep her in my thoughts.

31 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:11:49pm

re: #15 Charles

Charles,

You have my prayers for a refuah schlema, a complete recovery, for your Mum.

Please take care of yourself.

32 MrTunes  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:11:53pm

I'm sorry to hear that, Charles. I am fairly new to the user base, but I dig the site. Great job. More importantly, I hope your mom gets well. My best friend's mother is battling breast cancer too, and is in much the same stage of treatment. Keep your head up, and stay positive.

33 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:12:09pm

re: #10 Macker

I'm quite drunk and ready to log off for the evening but ask me for some recipes when I'm sober, I'll light you up.

34 albusteve  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:12:16pm

re: #21 Mich-again

Great song. The bass line in the beginning that comes back in the chorus is the hook. And Grohl can sing/scream like that live which is amazing. Screaming is hard on singers. Most can get up for it in the studio but have to tone it down for the road show or they'll turn into a Brian Johnson sounding frog. Grohl is a world class screamer. Ian Gillan being the world record holder though. I thought that dude's screaming was going to cause the roof of Cobo to resonate and cave in on us.

do you remember the Eastown?...Grande Ballroom?...those were the days...saw a few shows at Cobo...

35 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:12:27pm

Sorry to hear that Charles.

/Thoughts & Prayers from Virginia

36 WindHorse  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:12:49pm

re: #15 Charles

Charles,

My prayers are with your mom, and you.

Please let her know, from all of us, what a good job she did in raising you.

37 albusteve  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:13:19pm

re: #26 Lively

*prays for Charles' family member*

Back on topic:
Why aren't keyboards/pianos in bands anymore?

check out Little Feat...plenty keyboard mon...Billy Payne

38 little boomer  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:13:28pm

Charles-sorry about your mom. I'll remember her in prayer.

39 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:13:40pm

re: #15 Charles

Glad to hear that, Macker.

I don't share my personal life much because there are too many creeps out there who will use it against me, but if you're the praying sort, my mother could use your prayers. She's been diagnosed with liver cancer, has already had one operation, and is now going through chemotherapy.

Prayers for your mom.

40 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:13:40pm

re: #15 Charles

I'm very sorry to hear that. Let us know if there's anything we can do to help.

41 MrTunes  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:13:55pm

"My best friend's mother is battling breast cancer too"

Correction: battling cancer, period.

42 squarepeg  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:14:20pm

I'm not the praying kind, but I'm sending out some sympathetic vibes.

43 jaunte  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:14:20pm

Charles, our prayers here are going out to your mom.

44 MacGregor  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:14:50pm

re: #15 Charles

I know having a thoughtful son like you will help to no end. Prayers for both of you.

The foo fighters have come a long way since that mentos commercial song.

45 pat  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:14:54pm

re: #10 Macker

Lose the weight. I would recommend the Shintani diet (google). Takes a while but appears to be effective. Stops Type 2 diabetes in it's tracks. Macker, no more white foods. Period.

46 Old Tanker  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:15:04pm
but if you're the praying sort, my mother could use your prayers. She's been diagnosed with liver cancer, has already had one operation, and is now going through chemotherapy.

I am and she does does...God bless...

47 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:15:59pm

re: #34 albusteve

do you remember the Eastown?...Grande Ballroom?...those were the days...saw a few shows at Cobo..

Thats a little before my time. I'm more the Ritz and St Andrews generation.

48 Thanos  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:16:20pm

re: #42 squarepeg

I'm not the praying kind, but I'm sending out some sympathetic vibes.

I'm an aetheist, but for Charles mum I just prayed. I don't believe in G-d, but I could be mistaken.

49 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:16:55pm

re: #48 Thanos

That's really thoughtful of you.

50 lummox  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:17:06pm

do you remember the Eastown?...Grande Ballroom?...those were the days...saw a few shows at Cobo...

Ah the Grande Ballroom and Uncle Russ. Saw the original Fleetwood Mac & Savoy Brown one night there. Cost about 4 bucks. Cream another night , $5. And we thoght we were being ripped off. lol.

51 Duke6855  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:17:45pm

Fitting lyrics for this week, Charles.

RE #6 jwbaumann - they played something that wasn't indie or 30 years old at the Oak Street Cinema?!? I lived in Territorial over there a few years back ;)

52 Old Tanker  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:17:54pm

re: #48 Thanos

When in doubt you just can't go wrong...

53 albusteve  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:20:39pm

re: #47 Mich-again

re: #34 albusteve


do you remember the Eastown?...Grande Ballroom?...those were the days...saw a few shows at Cobo..

Thats a little before my time. I'm more the Ritz and St Andrews generation.

I'm born and raised in Mich...never forget my rock and roll roots...Detroit was a great town for music back in the day...I'm sentimental that way...those venues were legendary

54 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:20:55pm

My father in law was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer a month ago and they removed the whole thing. He's waiting for chemo and radiation but was well enough to drive 20 miles to watch my kid, his grandson play 8th grade football Wednesday night. Kid had some nice open field tackles and a pick-off and a long reception on offense and peepaw was one proud grandpa. That peepaw and meemaw thing is from my wife's side, not mine. Geeze. What can I say, I married an Ohio girl. Ha.

55 pat  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:21:10pm

By the way, the small film Bella is getting good revirews from a lot of Lizards.

56 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:21:59pm

Explore

Kanzius

for cancer cures.

57 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:22:07pm

I work with a girl whose father-in-law has prostate cancer. He is in chemotherapy right now. It was looking bad for a while then he suddenly made a u-turn. His doctor said he would have had 6 months to live if it was 1965.

It's amazing how much medicine for cancer has advance since then.

Charles, your mom has a much better chance to survive than people from her parents' generation.

58 Lively  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:23:20pm
re: #45 pat

...no more white foods. Period.

Easier said then done.

59 albusteve  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:23:34pm

re: #50 lummox

do you remember the Eastown?...Grande Ballroom?...those were the days...saw a few shows at Cobo...

Ah the Grande Ballroom and Uncle Russ. Saw the original Fleetwood Mac & Savoy Brown one night there. Cost about 4 bucks. Cream another night , $5. And we thoght we were being ripped off. lol.

there you have it...Savoy Brown...whoa!...Chris Simmons still tours amigo...check him out if you can

60 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:24:25pm

re: #45 pat

Pat,

I ♥ you..but IMHO, as an RN and a Type 2 as is NY Grampa...Macker should see a registered dietician, who will work with him to design a proper, individualized diet.

61 Macker  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:24:45pm

re: #15 Charles

I have become just that, Charles. SO SAY WE ALL.

62 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:24:50pm

re: #15 Charles

Glad to hear that, Macker.

I don't share my personal life much because there are too many creeps out there who will use it against me, but if you're the praying sort, my mother could use your prayers. She's been diagnosed with liver cancer, has already had one operation, and is now going through chemotherapy.

Your momma' is in my prayers and thoughts, Charles.

63 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:25:29pm
64 blackpajamas  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:26:35pm

re: #10 Macker

He want to work with me to develop a plan to lose the weight I've carried for all these years.

Don't sell yourself short. Literally, don't skimp on investments in your health. Some of my acquaintances may think I'm crazy because I own and operate a blender that costs more than a Kennedy-reunion bar tab. But for some strange reason they consistently seem to have more adipose tissue than do I, and I only see them at the gym for short slices of time just after New Years. Just don't go hog wild; a 1500 watt blender can just as easily accommodate a virgin snickers bar with its tear hither wrapper as it can a fresh orange.

65 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:27:38pm

My Aunt Frances discovered about three years ago what she thought was a painfully arthritic back was metastasized breast cancer. She has been on an experimental therapy, and her tumors have actually shrunk. Science is doing amazing things, and miracles do happen.

66 trailortrash  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:27:59pm

nice :) thx charles

67 Thanos  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:28:06pm

Pancreatic cancer is always a harsh geography lesson in where the Isles of Langerhans are.

68 lummox  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:29:17pm

The late Rory Gallagher played a kick a$$ show at the Royal Oak Theater 20 or so years ago. City ordainance mandated that shows had to end a midnight. Management cut his power at 12:15. (He wouldn't quit playing). The flashlight jerks opened the exit doors and ordered everyone to leave. Gallagher picked up a steel resonator guitar and played on for another half hour. Hey , you can't kick a thousand people out. heh

69 trailortrash  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:30:14pm

just caught up on comments, :(
Will Keep Your Mother In our Thoughts and Prayers Charles.

70 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:32:27pm

re: #48 Thanos

Thanos,

You are a mensch.

71 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:32:32pm

re: #65 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

My Aunt Frances discovered about three years ago what she thought was a painfully arthritic back was metastasized breast cancer. She has been on an experimental therapy, and her tumors have actually shrunk. Science is doing amazing things, and miracles do happen.

May God bless you for that post!

72 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:32:41pm

{Charles' Mom} too.

73 COINTELPROAgent  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:33:49pm

Charles I'll pray for her too.

I remember once when you were interviewed by Prager and he talked about how impressed he was, and you said something like "could you tell that to my mother", I laughed but it is kind of true. I will keep her in my prayers.

74 WindHorse  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:33:54pm

Charles,

Tell your mom about my dad... at age 77 he was diagnosed with prostate cancer. He went through chemotherapy and told me he wished he could have died...

This past summer, Harvard Medical School called him (he is a retired MD and has participated in numerous drug studies over the past 30-years) and told him that statistically he should have been dead 7 years ago. They told him that he had "beat" the prostate cancer.

On September 3, 2007 he turned 90.

Please tell her... the power of the mind is an amazing thing.

75 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:35:01pm

re: #15 Charles

Glad to hear that, Macker.

I don't share my personal life much because there are too many creeps out there who will use it against me, but if you're the praying sort, my mother could use your prayers. She's been diagnosed with liver cancer, has already had one operation, and is now going through chemotherapy.


So sorry to hear that Charles.
My prayers go out to her and you and your family!

76 Cornholio  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:37:02pm

Nice video. Rock on!

77 Thanos  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:38:11pm

One of my favorite authors is also undergoing chemo now, it was kind of a shocker reading her blog and having it just pop out suddenly like that. Her prognosis is pretty good however, my mom survived and I hope Virginia Postrell will as well.

(If you haven't read her book "The Future and its Enemies" you really need to. Interestingly enough it examines in depth how opponents find themselves as strange bedfellows in opposition to change.)

78 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:38:54pm

re: #67 Thanos

My Dad zt'l learned. As there are other cases on my paternal side, and as a diabetic? Ouch. I am registered with Roswell Park Cancer Institute, in Buffalo, the designated registry in NY State.

They are actually making some advances, small, but hopeful, here and in other countries. Like ovarian cancer, the problem is that it is diagnosed too late in most cases.

79 leepro  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:40:04pm

re: #15 Charles

Praying with/for you and your mother. Glad they caught it in time do something about it. My father wasn't so lucky.

God bless you and your family. Your mother gave us a priceless jewel in you!

¦’

80 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:41:48pm

FLLegal on previous thread notes racist Mexican group MeCha started some of the SoCal wildfires as a terrorist act against the gringo occupiers of California.


That is huge, and the irony of their evil is notable, as at least four illegal aliens trying to enter the US from Mexico apparently died in the fires.

81 bikpela  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:42:02pm

Of course we will pray for your Mom and those caring for her. You are her gift to us.

82 Macker  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:43:25pm

re: #80 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

If that's true, they'd be eligible for the Death Penalty, if the Feds so prosecuted, wouldn' they!

83 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:43:45pm

re: #15 Charles

Glad to hear that, Macker.

I don't share my personal life much because there are too many creeps out there who will use it against me, but if you're the praying sort, my mother could use your prayers. She's been diagnosed with liver cancer, has already had one operation, and is now going through chemotherapy.

Charles, So sorry to hear about your Mother. My father died about a dozen years ago of bone cancer. It was tough, but at least we had time to prepare for it. He refused treatment. It was his second go arround.

Macker, glad to know the angiogram went OK. We both probably need to shed a few pounds. Work with your doctor and get the plan thats best suited for you. Don't jump into any of the fads. Your weight is programed by your body to cope with feast and famine. Our life styles short circuit that routine, and the body will react to the diet.
I've read that its better to carry a few extra pounds then to be under weight as we age. Best wishes for you.

84 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:44:06pm
85 Killian Bundy  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:44:16pm

re: #15 Charles

liver cancer

That's generally considered terminal.

/persue the most aggressive options, balancing quality of life, Godspeed

86 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:45:34pm

#80 Ed Mahmoud

That story is a hoax. Look at the URL.

87 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:46:11pm

Do Foo Fighters Fight Foo?

88 Highrise  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:46:24pm

re: #10 Macker

Wow, what an ordeal. Glad you are ok.

89 infidel4life  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:46:30pm

NO ONE does neo-punk meets the Beatles like Dave Grohl.

90 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:46:32pm

re: #80 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

FLLegal on previous thread notes racist Mexican group MeCha started some of the SoCal wildfires as a terrorist act against the gringo occupiers of California.


That is huge, and the irony of their evil is notable, as at least four illegal aliens trying to enter the US from Mexico apparently died in the fires.

I have been pwn3d.

cnnheadlienews.com

91 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:46:50pm

Charles, I have an odd question. None too personal, I hope.

Does your mom understand what you do with this blog? Beyond the "here's a pic of my bike tire, let's try some new CSS" stuff. I mean, how you keep tabs on the world and harness the power of many eyes and insightful minds, bringing the truth to the fore and exposing the enemies of civilization.

Does she see that in the boy she raised?

92 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:48:04pm
93 Thanos  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:48:37pm

Since someone mentioned Rory Gallagher

94 WindHorse  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:48:37pm

re: #91 victor_yugo

the boi is a powerhouse...

95 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:48:54pm

re: #85 Killian Bundy

re: #15 Charles


liver cancer

That's generally considered terminal.

/persue the most aggressive options, balancing quality of life, Godspeed

My sister in law was diagnosed with liver cancer in 2000. She was ion remission until last fall. Mayo did a very radical procedure on her, removing parts of her stomach, liver panchreas, gall bladder and intestine. She has to eat eight to ten times a day, small meals but often.
Her cancer is back but moving very slow. She is in an experimental program now as well.

96 nihilist  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:49:08pm

Washington Post is ready to sett he tone for the weekend

97 Killian Bundy  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:49:44pm

re: #92 song_and_dance_man

That's right.

/no one gets out alive

98 Highrise  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:50:12pm

re: #15 Charles

Glad to hear that, Macker.

I don't share my personal life much because there are too many creeps out there who will use it against me, but if you're the praying sort, my mother could use your prayers. She's been diagnosed with liver cancer, has already had one operation, and is now going through chemotherapy.

Charles, I'm so sorry to hear this. I know cancer treatments have come along way thankfully. My grandmother is a survivor twice and my husband's dad's wife who is just a doll just survived her first bout of cancer. Do what you can to keep her attitude up and chipper. The positive Ambiance can help out a lot.

God love your mom and I hope he gives her a peace about this. She did such a great job raising a fine man. I'm sure she is proud.

99 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:51:18pm

re: #85 Killian Bundy

I'm no MD but I know that liver transplants work. Apparently, if you donate half your liver it grows back very quickly (not easily and comfortably of course...) but it may be successfully grafted onto an ailing liver that matches.

/Excuse the nomenclature

100 pat  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:51:25pm

Mid back pain is common in many varieties of torso cancers. Do not confuse pain inside of the spine with sciatica.

101 blackpajamas  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:51:28pm

When I read that VDH has kidney issues (his kidneys, not just some random irrational jihad-like kidney hatred), I was tempted to send him a letter to cheer him up:

Dear VDH,

In your moment of adversity, just remember Emerson, "The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones".

Then I thought naw... better not.

However, I think high spirits are key to survival!

102 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:51:51pm
103 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:52:26pm

re: #78 NY Nana

re: #67 Thanos

My Dad zt'l learned. As there are other cases on my paternal side, and as a diabetic? Ouch. I am registered with Roswell Park Cancer Institute, in Buffalo, the designated registry in NY State.

They are actually making some advances, small, but hopeful, here and in other countries. Like ovarian cancer, the problem is that it is diagnosed too late in most cases.

I also do not like to post personal info but felt this is important
I am a 20 yr survivor of ovarian cancer. My Doc said I should of been gone 15 yrs ago. I waited 7 mo's for Chemo. My daughter is 20 and was born on same date I started Chemo...
There are survivors of cancer, I know I am one...so Charles stay positive and pass the on to your mum..

104 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:52:46pm

ELTs get sub commander sh!tcanned by gundecking maintenance.

The commander of the nuclear-powered submarine USS Hampton has been relieved of his command amid an inquiry into misconduct by crew members, the U.S. Navy said Friday.


Cmdr. Michael B. Portland lost his post "due to a loss of confidence in his ability to command," the Navy said in a statement. Cmdr. William J. Houston will replace Portland.

The crew neither maintained inspection records nor conducted the required inspection of chemical levels associated with the cooling system of the ship's nuclear reactor, Navy officials said. The crew then went back and falsified existing records to make it appear the work had been done.

"There is not, and never was, any danger to the crew or the public," the Navy said.

Portland's demotion brings to 10 the number of people relieved of duty on the submarine in the wake of the misconduct probe.

Six personnel have been punished for forging inspection records for the cooling system, the Navy officials said Monday. Those six -- one officer and five enlisted personnel -- received a "nonjudicial punishment" after other Navy personnel discovered their actions, the officials said.

The Navy said Friday that one officer and two enlisted crew members have been temporarily reassigned to Submarine Squadron 11. Portland also will be temporarily reassigned to that squadron.

The misconduct was discovered September 17 but not made public until after completion of an initial inquiry.

A fact-finding investigation is under way, and further action against Navy crew members is possible, a Navy official said.

The Hampton remains in port in San Diego, California. In all, the $900 million vessel's crew includes 13 officers and 116 enlisted personnel.

105 Sodra Djavul  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:53:34pm

What I'm fighting for:

It's cesspools like these that give birth to next-generation thought. And advance humanity to a higher level.

My best wishes for Charles' mother and a speedy recovery. I remember when my mom had a heart attack, and how speedy we all rushed to her side. Luckily we didn't lose her that night, but I understand if LGF goes dark for awhile.

- SD

106 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:53:57pm
107 pat  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:53:58pm

re: #60 NY Nana

Absolutely

108 realwest  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:54:05pm

re: #15 Charles Charles, I'm so sorry to hear this news. Is your mom home now or in the hospital (still)?
In any event, please know that I will be praying for her and for you my friend, every single night until she recovers.

109 Killian Bundy  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:58:11pm

re: #99 experiencedtraveller

When you have liver cancer it's almost always more extensive than that,

/last time I saw my dad, he was yellow, cause of death, small cell lung cancer

110 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:58:11pm

God bless us, everyone.

111 JeremyR  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:58:43pm

re: #106 song_and_dance_man

re: #97 Killian Bundy



That's right.
/no one gets out alive

More like no one gets out just dead.


One of my favorite saying is "nothing in life is serious enough to be taken seriously. The worst it can do is kill you, and you're going to die anyway.

112 m  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:58:43pm

re: #15 Charles

You are both in my prayers.

113 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 9:59:01pm

re: #104 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

ELTs get sub commander sh!tcanned by gundecking maintenance.

The commander of the nuclear-powered submarine USS Hampton has been relieved of his command amid an inquiry into misconduct by crew members, the U.S. Navy said Friday.

Cmdr. Michael B. Portland lost his post "due to a loss of confidence in his ability to command," the Navy said in a statement. Cmdr. William J. Houston will replace Portland.
The crew neither maintained inspection records nor conducted the required inspection of chemical levels associated with the cooling system of the ship's nuclear reactor, Navy officials said. The crew then went back and falsified existing records to make it appear the work had been done.

"There is not, and never was, any danger to the crew or the public," the Navy said.

Portland's demotion brings to 10 the number of people relieved of duty on the submarine in the wake of the misconduct probe.

Six personnel have been punished for forging inspection records for the cooling system, the Navy officials said Monday. Those six -- one officer and five enlisted personnel -- received a "nonjudicial punishment" after other Navy personnel discovered their actions, the officials said.

The Navy said Friday that one officer and two enlisted crew members have been temporarily reassigned to Submarine Squadron 11. Portland also will be temporarily reassigned to that squadron.

The misconduct was discovered September 17 but not made public until after completion of an initial inquiry.

A fact-finding investigation is under way, and further action against Navy crew members is possible, a Navy official said.

The Hampton remains in port in San Diego, California. In all, the $900 million vessel's crew includes 13 officers and 116 enlisted personnel.


28-RC-M-1, monthly testing of the rod drive power supply control circuitry, was about my least favorite maintenance.


I forget the number, but while the bi-weekly trip point and calibration check on the loss of flow circuitry was rather involved, I was quite good at it.

114 Ashamed to be Dutch  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:00:30pm

re: #90 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

re: #80 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

FLLegal on previous thread notes racist Mexican group MeCha started some of the SoCal wildfires as a terrorist act against the gringo occupiers of California.


That is huge, and the irony of their evil is notable, as at least four illegal aliens trying to enter the US from Mexico apparently died in the fires.

I have been pwn3d.

cnnheadlienews.com

Welcome in the club ;-)

Perfect page... BAD "joke" !

115 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:01:06pm

re: #109 Killian Bundy

Yes. But you will agree that hope is a good thing.

116 m  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:02:04pm

re: #115 experiencedtraveller

There is always hope :)

117 Ashamed to be Dutch  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:02:30pm

re: #15 Charles

As an agnostic I'll make an exception and still sent a prayer for your Mom

118 blackpajamas  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:03:16pm

re: #116 m

re: #115 experiencedtraveller

There is always hope :)

“A person, who no matter how desperate the situation, gives others hope, is a true leader.”

-Ikeda

119 KennyR  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:04:12pm

Charles,
I'm not much of a praying man myself, but when it comes to family I can't help it. I've been through it myself a few times. My thoughts and prayers are with your mother.

120 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:05:50pm

re: #103 allahakchew

I am a 20 yr survivor of ovarian cancer. My Doc said I should of been gone 15 yrs ago. I waited 7 mo's for Chemo. My daughter is 20 and was born on same date I started Chemo...
There are survivors of cancer, I know I am one...so Charles stay positive and pass the on to your mum..

And you did this after waiting 7 months..G-d bless you. You are right. There are a lot of patients given a dire prognosis who outlive their MD's!

My son in law's Mum was diagnosed with Ca of the breast about 40 years ago, when she was pregnant with her first born. She waited, also, until she delivered at full term, to undergo radiation and chemo.

We now share our almost-14 month old grandson!

121 m  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:06:19pm

re: #108{realwest}

As another member of my prayers list~ how you doing? What about this kinda/sorta rain thing? And why'd you let it turn cold?!

re: #117 Ashamed to be Dutch

That'll definitely be heard~ with alarm bells, party planning and everything! =)

122 kynna  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:06:31pm

Prayers for your mom, Charles. Everything is possible. I pray every day. You can count on it.

---

Foo Fighters. I do think that Dave Grohl is fantastic and his band as well. However, I find they almost always have a repetition line in the chorus of their songs that goes on and on and on and on. Other than that they are fabulous (and that's probably why that one little thing irks me so much).

I didn't understand the riot police and the spewing viscous liquid in the video though, but that's nothing strange. I don't usually understand music videos.

123 m  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:07:16pm

re: #118 blackpajamas

“A person, who no matter how desperate the situation, gives others hope, is a true leader.”

-Ikeda

Niice! :)

124 Killian Bundy  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:07:35pm

re: #115 experiencedtraveller

Yes. But you will agree that hope is a good thing.

Absolutely, examine all the options aggressively.

/that said, not even the Mayo Clinic couldn't save my dad, when your time's up . . .

125 realwest  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:07:48pm

re: #116 {m} Yes, there IS always hope and hope and a positive attitude can indeed make a difference.
Again, Charles, I will pray for you both, every night until she recovers. Every Night.

126 haakondahl  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:08:43pm

Charles, does you mother know that when you criticize powerful European political parties, that those parties implore you to take a second look?

Godspeed, C-Mom.

127 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:09:09pm

Going through the same thing with my brother, Charles. I understand what you're going through. It's probably not going to work out for him, but I'll keep you and your mother in my thoughts and prayers.

128 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:10:46pm

re: #120 NY Nana

re: #103 allahakchew


I am a 20 yr survivor of ovarian cancer. My Doc said I should of been gone 15 yrs ago. I waited 7 mo's for Chemo. My daughter is 20 and was born on same date I started Chemo...
There are survivors of cancer, I know I am one...so Charles stay positive and pass the on to your mum..

And you did this after waiting 7 months..G-d bless you. You are right. There are a lot of patients given a dire prognosis who outlive their MD's!

My son in law's Mum was diagnosed with Ca of the breast about 40 years ago, when she was pregnant with her first born. She waited, also, until she delivered at full term, to undergo radiation and chemo.

We now share our almost-14 month old grandson!

That is wonderful, thank you for sharing!

129 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:11:19pm
130 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:11:29pm

#105 Sodra Djavul

I understand if LGF goes dark for awhile.

I think we should all keep this in mind from now on.

Charles, both of my parents had cancer and survived (surgery, chemo, radiation). I hope to hell your mom pulls through. My cousin, an extreme Type I diabetic had a pancreas transplant and it's been something like 10 years now. Modern medicine really has progressed in the last thirty years, keep your spirits up.

131 carbon footprint  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:12:59pm

I had the pleasure to see Nirvana in October of 1993; Dave Grohl played a few songs on guitar. It was a wonderful experience. As great as Nirvana was, Foo Fighters is a formidable group.

132 Ashamed to be Dutch  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:13:08pm

re: #121 m

re: #108{realwest}

As another member of my prayers list~ how you doing? What about this kinda/sorta rain thing? And why'd you let it turn cold?!

re: #117 Ashamed to be Dutch

That'll definitely be heard~ with alarm bells, party planning and everything! =)

Can't do any harm ! And if the alarm bells wake up some nice angel to do something nice for Charles Mom Everybody will be glad.

133 realwest  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:13:27pm

re: #121 {m} Hi there sugah! We actually got quite of bit of rain down here in Matthews - don't know for sure, but I'd guess 2+inches!
And I let it get cold so that my hips will hurt like hell and my damned right calf muscle would tighten up on me, really badly, just cause I'm hoping for more rain or... snow! LOL!
And of course you're on my prayer list too; it is, alas, growing longer every day.

134 solomonpanting  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:13:30pm

Sorry to hear that, Charles. I hope there are other family members nearby to help lighten your mother's load and yours.

135 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:14:57pm

My mother is a lung cancer survivor (so far). It was her illness that brought me back to my hometown indefinitely.

She developed an allergy to her chemo that nearly killed her from anaphalaxis 3 weeks after I came back. Quick action by the doctor and the oncology nurses saved her life.

Every day with my parents and brother is a blessing. My dad and I have said "I love you" more often in the past 2 years than in all the previous 37 years combined. And my brother and I are now more at peace with each other than ever before.

136 Dead Sea Squirrel  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:15:14pm

Add my prayers, Charles.

137 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:15:53pm

re: #130 Tasty Beverage

#105 Sodra Djavul


I understand if LGF goes dark for awhile.

I think we should all keep this in mind from now on.

Charles, both of my parents had cancer and survived (surgery, chemo, radiation). I hope to hell your mom pulls through. My cousin, an extreme Type I diabetic had a pancreas transplant and it's been something like 10 years now. Modern medicine really has progressed in the last thirty years, keep your spirits up.


I take it Hot Air's Allah Pundit is pretty internet savvy. Maybe a vacation back East, with occasional visits in, with Allah, maybe Roger Simon and Michelle Malkin as guest grand lizards, wouldn't be a bad thing.

138 carbon footprint  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:16:08pm

re: #15 Charles

My prayers to you, your family and your mother. I lost my oldest sister to kidney cancer in 2005. Cancer is a horrible experience for all involved. God please grant your blessings upon this noble woman.

139 haakondahl  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:16:26pm

I could be wrong, but WRT the Foo Fighters video, I'm not all that cozy with the lyrics, the imagery, or the symbolism beyond that. Other than that, uh, I guess it's okay.

Anybody else catch a Marxist-troofer vibe? Or am I just stuck in the Cold War? (Not that there's anything *wrong* with that...)

140 Highrise  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:16:50pm

re: #120 NY Nana


My husband's father's wife was told she had 2 weeks to live and told to start making funeral arrangements.

She got a 2nd opinion.

They think it's gone after her treatment. She goes in in 3 months to get it rechecked.

I'm so glad she didn't settle on the first diagnosis.

141 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:17:38pm

re: #128 allahakchew

She is an amazing woman...she is a great friend, and most of all, a loving, caring wife, mother and grandma, who helps care for her mother and aunt.

And this was 40 years or so ago, which in regard to treatment, etc., is the Dark Ages.

Your husband and daughter must thank G-d for you every day.

142 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:21:05pm

#137 Ed Mahmoud

I take it Hot Air's Allah Pundit is pretty internet savvy. Maybe a vacation back East, with occasional visits in, with Allah, maybe Roger Simon and Michelle Malkin as guest grand lizards, wouldn't be a bad thing.

That would be awesome, but I don't think Charles would hand over the reins. LGF is too massive for outsiders.

I guess we could all just temporarily colonize Hot Air and MichelleMalkin.com, JihadWatch, etc.

143 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:21:38pm

re: #140 Highrise

It is always advisable to get a second opinion. Always, and a third, if necessary.

I pray that in 3 months she will heave a very big sigh of relief, and go from strength to strength.

144 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:21:54pm
understand if LGF goes dark for awhile.


I think we should all keep this in mind from now on.


Please don't misunderstand when I say this.

We need to think positive, not negative because the negative we are allready aware of...

When someone is going through this battle negative thoughts cut the heart like a knife...

145 realwest  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:22:32pm

re: #127 Noam Sayin' Noam, I'm so sorry to hear that update. You and your brother are also on my "Every Night" prayer list. May God bless your brother and you.

146 jaunte  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:23:55pm

Charles:

A beautiful heart;

You can hold her in your hand

Wave her before G-d.

---Rabbi Fleischmann

147 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:24:40pm

re: #139 haakondahl

Anybody else catch a Marxist-troofer vibe? Or am I just stuck in the Cold War?

I caught an anti-Marxist-troofer vibe. But maybe that's just from getting it via LFG.

148 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:25:04pm

We could be refugees and get taxpayer-funding!

The UN could send an emissary.

149 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:25:12pm

re: #80 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

FLLegal on previous thread notes racist Mexican group MeCha started some of the SoCal wildfires as a terrorist act against the gringo occupiers of California.


That is huge, and the irony of their evil is notable, as at least four illegal aliens trying to enter the US from Mexico apparently died in the fires.

Story is a fake.

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

Shameful Fraud [Jonah Goldberg]
A reader sent me this story blaming "Mexican separatists" for the California fires. I Googled it and already blogs were picking it up.

The problem: It's a fake. The URL says "cnnheadliennews."

It looks to me like the creators of this site weren't trying to make a joke. It's not a parody, it's just simply disgusting.

Prayers for your Mom, Charles.

150 carbon footprint  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:25:28pm

re: #127 Noam Sayin'

Prayers to you and yours Noam; cancer is way too prominent.

151 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:25:50pm

Hey, lizards, instead of making contingency plans for Charles, how about just praying for his Mum and the family? May Charles just take time off to vacation...like that's going to happen.

152 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:27:00pm

re: #144 allahakchew

You beat me to it.

153 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:27:37pm

re: #135 victor_yugo

My mother is a lung cancer survivor (so far). It was her illness that brought me back to my hometown indefinitely.

She developed an allergy to her chemo that nearly killed her from anaphalaxis 3 weeks after I came back. Quick action by the doctor and the oncology nurses saved her life.

Every day with my parents and brother is a blessing. My dad and I have said "I love you" more often in the past 2 years than in all the previous 37 years combined. And my brother and I are now more at peace with each other than ever before.

That is such a wonderful story and so very true...

154 blackpajamas  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:27:47pm

re: #148 Tasty Beverage

We could be refugees and get taxpayer-funding!

The UN could send an emissary.

“He is the best physician who is the most ingenious inspirer of hope.”
-Samuel Taylor Coleridge

155 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:29:12pm

Very good reading about cancer and surviving it:

"Living Time" by Dr. Bernadine Healey

156 Thanos  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:30:48pm

Well time for some zzz's...


Charles, sleep well yourself friend; you and yours are well-loved, yell if there is aught that we can do for you.

Fripp

157 realwest  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:32:32pm

re: #142 Tasty Beverage

#137 Ed Mahmoud


I take it Hot Air's Allah Pundit is pretty internet savvy. Maybe a vacation back East, with occasional visits in, with Allah, maybe Roger Simon and Michelle Malkin as guest grand lizards, wouldn't be a bad thing.

That would be awesome, but I don't think Charles would hand over the reins. LGF is too massive for outsiders.

I guess we could all just temporarily colonize Hot Air and MichelleMalkin.com, JihadWatch, etc.


With all due respect to you both: planning for "LGF to go dark" or proposing "guest" moderators or temporarily "colonizing" another blog or anything of the sort is both premature and, although I know it was unintentional, cruel. Some of us have experiences with cancer and know that hope, positive attitude and prayer do indeed help. Negativity, no matter how unintended, does not.

158 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:32:40pm

#144 allahackchew

When someone is going through this battle negative thoughts cut the heart like a knife...

I know, like I said at #130, both of my parents have been through it, and survived. Charles's mom's cancer of the liver is harder to eradicate than others, but there's always hope, and modern science.

159 DesertSage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:33:10pm

re: #127 Noam Sayin'

Going through the same thing with my brother, Charles. I understand what you're going through. It's probably not going to work out for him, but I'll keep you and your mother in my thoughts and prayers.

Don't give up on your brother yet Noam.
I still have a few favors from God that I'm going to call in.

Charles, my prayers go out to your mother also (and you too).

160 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:33:24pm

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161 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:33:45pm

re: #141 NY Nana

re: #128 allahakchew

She is an amazing woman...she is a great friend, and most of all, a loving, caring wife, mother and grandma, who helps care for her mother and aunt.

And this was 40 years or so ago, which in regard to treatment, etc., is the Dark Ages.

Your husband and daughter must thank G-d for you every day.

Some days, not so much...:)

162 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:34:07pm

#157 realwest

Some of us have experiences with cancer and know that hope, positive attitude and prayer do indeed help.

Did you overlook the part where I stated that both of my parents have had cancer?

163 realwest  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:35:41pm

re: #162 Tasty Beverage No, I didn't. I simply addressed the comments which I quoted.

164 Highrise  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:35:49pm

re: #143 NY Nana

re: #140 Highrise

It is always advisable to get a second opinion. Always, and a third, if necessary.

I pray that in 3 months she will heave a very big sigh of relief, and go from strength to strength.


You are sweet :) Thank you.

This woman is amazing. Her attitude was so upbeat when we went to visit her. My grandmother also who survived 2 bouts is just flat amazing with her attitude.

BOTH the women had superior family networks of support.

165 unclassifiable  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:37:19pm

re: #96 nihilist

Claptrap!

Balderdash!

So Pelosi's role in trying to hack off the Turks goes completely unmentioned?

And let me state, yes it was genocide -- but that's not the damn point!

166 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:37:57pm

re: #152 NY Nana

re: #144 allahakchew

You beat me to it.

You mean was first?...:)

167 Dead Sea Squirrel  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:38:44pm

I know lots of people linked to this on the thread below, Rice getting advice from Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, but if you haven't looked, you should. It's even worse than it sounds:

Other sources of advice have been former U.S. negotiator Dennis Ross and ex-secretaries of state James Baker, Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright. Rice meets frequently for lunch with Albright, whose father taught Rice at Denver University.

Rice has made clear she will devote all her energy in the Bush administration's final 14 months to get what others have failed to attain in the past -- a viable, independent Palestinian state living side by side with a secure Israel.

Once upon a time, I really liked her.

168 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:38:55pm

#163 realwest

No, I didn't. I simply addressed the comments which I quoted.

I apologize if my comment was flippant. I didn't mean it that way -- I'm trying to utlilize "dark humor", but I realize it's inappropriate for many people who are currently dealing with cancer.

Sorry everyone.

169 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:39:49pm

re: #167 Dead Sea Squirrel

I know lots of people linked to this on the thread below, Rice getting advice from Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, but if you haven't looked, you should. It's even worse than it sounds:


Other sources of advice have been former U.S. negotiator Dennis Ross and ex-secretaries of state James Baker, Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright. Rice meets frequently for lunch with Albright, whose father taught Rice at Denver University.

Rice has made clear she will devote all her energy in the Bush administration's final 14 months to get what others have failed to attain in the past -- a viable, independent Palestinian state living side by side with a secure Israel.


Once upon a time, I really liked her.

Sure explains alot.

171 Nadnerb  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:41:14pm

Fightin' the Foo! Never surrender, indeed

Props to Dave Grohl for his dedication to music and life. Unlike his cohort Kurt. Or the "stylings" of Mohammed

172 realwest  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:42:00pm

re: #168 Tasty Beverage I know you didn't mean it to be flippant - that's why I said "although I know it was unintentional".

173 Highrise  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:42:34pm

re: #168 Tasty Beverage

Wow you have been through a lot.

Bless you and your family.

174 Charles  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:43:29pm

One more note for the night, and I thank you all most sincerely for your wishes and prayers from my mom -- my email is not working for some reason and hasn't since about 3 pm this afternoon. So if you've emailed something important and I haven't responded, I'm not ignoring you -- I haven't read it.

175 buckykat  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:43:52pm

re: #15 Charles
Thank you for letting us know. You and your Mom are in my heart. Love, kindness and compassion are the anchors of life.

176 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:44:57pm

re: #164 Highrise

Family support is, along with prayer ,I think, the most important thing for a patient. They cannot go through this alone.

G-d bless your mother in law, Gran and family!

177 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:45:06pm

Anyone in MD/VA area, this sounds interesting...

UPPER MARLBORO, Md., Oct. 27 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Maryland Shall Issue, Inc. welcomes Charl Van Wyk to speaking engagements in Maryland and Virginia. Charl van Wyk is the author of "Shooting Back: the right and duty of self-defense" and now a DVD of the same name.

In 1993, Mr. Van Wyk was in church in South Africa when three terrorists stormed in with hand grenades and assault rifles. Eleven people were killed, 53 badly injured. The situation would have been much worst except that on that night Charl was armed with a 5 shot S&W J-frame revolver - a pea shooter against AK47's, but he returned fire, wounding several of the terrorists and putting them to flight!

As a Christian, Van Wyk makes the case that it is not only the right,
but also one's duty to defend oneself and the innocent from evil-doers. If self- defense is abandoned then evil has free rein. If you don't defend
yourself you burden someone else with the risk for you. Likewise he
declares that gun-free zones only encourage the criminal. In "Shooting
Back" Van Wyk says, "It is ludicrous to think that criminals are going to leave their firearms at home when entering a firearm-free zone. This merely makes the working environment of criminals safer." Terrorist attacks on schools were a frequent problem in Israel until the government decided to arm teachers there.

Mr. Van Wyk will be speaking on Saturday, November 3rd at 1 PM at the Paddock Room in the Prince George's Equestrian Center / Show Place Arena, 14900 Pennsylvania Avenue, Upper Marlboro, Maryland 20772. On Sunday, November 4th at 6:00 PM Charl Van Wyk will be speaking at Bethel Orthodox Presbyterian Church, 19856 Evergreen Mills Road, Leesburg, VA 20176.

The public is welcome to either or both engagements and there is no
charge, except that as the Maryland engagement is during the Silverado Gun Show in the Show Place Arena, regular admission charge for the gun show ($7) will be charged to enter the building.

178 Ashamed to be Dutch  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:45:23pm

In Europe it's seriously bed time... Good night all !

179 realwest  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:45:35pm

Good Night Y'all - hope you all have a good one. And I hope I get to see you all on tomorrows DT.
Again, Charles, my sympathies to you and your Mom and prayers will be going up in about 10 minutes!
And the same for Naom and for his brother and for all of my fellow lizards who are battling terrible diseases.
Good night, Y'all.

180 mountain  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:45:55pm

Best wishes for your Mom Charles. I had a family member go through chemo recently and while it had some bad side effects, it did it's job and she's doing fine. I also remember reading that the liver is a very strong organ and can actually regenerate itself, so there's good reason to be optimistic that your Mom will get through this ok.

181 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:46:20pm

re: #158 Tasty Beverage

#144 allahackchew


When someone is going through this battle negative thoughts cut the heart like a knife...

I know, like I said at #130, both of my parents have been through it, and survived. Charles's mom's cancer of the liver is harder to eradicate than others, but there's always hope, and modern science.

There is always hope, exactly...and hope increases the potency of medicine ...the mind is a powerful thing...most of it yet untapped and waiting...
You and your family will also be in my prayers as well as others who have gone/going through this...:)

182 Highrise  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:46:45pm

re: #178 Ashamed to be Dutch

Nite nite :)

183 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:47:36pm
184 Nadnerb  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:48:23pm

#15 Charles

I am the praying sort and I have seen it work in my life. Your mom, and family are in mine.

Brendan

185 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:48:30pm

re: #166 allahakchew

I posted this after you did...I did not earn the title of LGF's Slowest Typer™ for nothing!

186 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:48:56pm
187 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:49:14pm

#172 realwest

I know you didn't mean it to be flippant - that's why I said "although I know it was unintentional".

And I just looked at it and the "that would be awesome" comment was really inappropriate in hindsight. Thinking back to 1997 when my mom was diagnosed, it was awful.

I'm really sorry, everyone, for making those jokes. I don't even have the "excuse" of violating Iron Fist's rule.

188 DesertSage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:49:18pm

re: #185 NY Nana

Hi Nana.

189 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:50:59pm

re: #183 song_and_dance_man

It's hard to liven up a thread when the last saw the fall of a once respected poster and writer

What happened?

190 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:51:32pm

re: #174 Charles

Please get a good night's sleep!

191 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:52:51pm
192 Highrise  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:53:52pm

re: #190 NY Nana

re: #174 Charles

Please get a good night's sleep!

Yes, Charles...sleep well. The Lizards will hold the fort down.

/salute

193 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:53:59pm

re: #191 song_and_dance_man

re: #189 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The last thread. Fjordman. You'll have to read it to come to your own conclusion.

Still trying to get the page to load, monster thread is beating up my browser.

194 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:56:07pm

#173 Highrise

Bless you and your family.

Thanks hon. They're fine, cancer-free -- for now. And if I may be a nag to the men-folk here at LGF, get that prostate cancer blood test every year. It saved my dad. He still had to have surgery but he's alive, dammit.

# 181 allahackchew

There is always hope, exactly...and hope increases the potency of medicine ...the mind is a powerful thing...most of it yet untapped and waiting...

I definitely believe in the power of keeping a positive mind.

195 Dead Sea Squirrel  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:57:39pm

It's not like Fjordman was banned or anything, so don't get the wrong impression.

196 DesertSage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:57:48pm

re: #191 song_and_dance_man

Did something happen to Fjordman?

197 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:58:42pm

Charles
Of course you have my prayers for your dear mother.
And so does Noam for his brother, and all of those who suffer from this desease, will be "blanket prayed" for.

My wife died in 1992 of cancer. She was only 37. Quite sad, specially for my boy who was 12 at the time.

I'm preety sure that if she had had cancer in this last few years she might very well have vanquished it. The treatment of cancer has advanced a whole lot in the last decades.

Hugs to all who suffer.

198 Dead Sea Squirrel  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:58:54pm

Fjordman got into some arguments with several posters, including Charles himself at one point. It was edgy, but I don't think fatal. He's not banned.

199 Yankee Division Son  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 10:59:42pm

Never thought I see a UFO thread here..

200 Highrise  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:00:12pm

re: #198 Dead Sea Squirrel

My respect for him has gone major negative.

I doubt it'll recover.

201 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:00:18pm
202 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:01:15pm

re: #185 NY Nana

re: #166 allahakchew

I posted this after you did...I did not earn the title of LGF's Slowest Typer™ for nothing!

.
...lol...and I thought I was the slowest... probably still am though as i am still keying this and the thread is probably way ahead of me...

203 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:02:03pm
204 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:03:12pm

OT (if we have a topic?) - Can anybody make some recommendations here for a first-time visitor to New Orleans? I'm going to be on the west edge of the city next week (Mounes St.) and in the French Quarter next weekend. I'm mainly concerned about safety and finding places we can walk to for lunch, and maybe drive or take a cab to for dinner in the evenings. To be honest, the only reason I'm going is the food - I want to try local stuff, on the cheap if possible.

205 Highrise  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:03:34pm

re: #198 Dead Sea Squirrel

I first started questioning fjordman when he ran a piece of how LA was being taken over like the likes of pakistan type burnings and gangs..like no one could walk or drive their car there..etc. He said right then that due to his perception of LA being overrun by people who were burning up the city, that he was glad to be in EUROPE and not in the USA. I was like..what?

I challenged him since I live in california that that was completely not true. No answer. That really pissed me off.

206 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:04:46pm

re: #196 DesertSage

Here's the raw gist of it, Sage.

207 ciaospirit  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:04:48pm

re: #15 Charles

I'm glad you shared that with us, Charles. Let the Lizard army uplift you and your mom in love and prayer and be an encouragement to your heart. My dad (81 years young) went through chemo last year and it was truly difficult. Sometimes all we can do is sit beside them and hold their hand. Just being there gives them strength. Sometimes we need to pray for patience for them and for ourselves when the struggle gets really tough. I always liked the saying that a friend is like an angel who lifts you up when your wings can't remember how to fly. You are there for your mom and we'll be here for you.

208 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:04:51pm

Charles,

My mom was diagnosed with cancer also this year. Four surgeries in one month, radiation, etc., etc. As close as we already were, this made us even closer.

I'm adding your mom to our prayers. But, I suspect, that a good part of your mother's prayers have already been answered.
;)

209 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:04:56pm

re: #192 Highrise

re: #190 NY Nana


re: #174 Charles

Please get a good night's sleep!


Yes, Charles...sleep well. The Lizards will hold the fort down.

/salute


...lol...thought you said hold the fart down...looks like it is time for me to go to bed.

Sleep well Charles and don't do any sleepwalking and if you do sleepwalk make sure you have your jammies on...:)

210 Yankee Division Son  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:05:47pm

re: #15 Charles

Sorry to hear that Charles, best wishes...

211 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:06:30pm

re: #204 Pawn of the Oppressor

I want to try local stuff, on the cheap if possible.

Lots of luck! :-)

212 pat  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:07:27pm

re: #205 Highrise
I hate LA. (lol)

213 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:09:07pm

re: #197 MigueldowninMexico

Charles
Of course you have my prayers for your dear mother.
And so does Noam for his brother, and all of those who suffer from this desease, will be "blanket prayed" for.

My wife died in 1992 of cancer. She was only 37. Quite sad, specially for my boy who was 12 at the time.

I'm preety sure that if she had had cancer in this last few years she might very well have vanquished it. The treatment of cancer has advanced a whole lot in the last decades.

Hugs to all who suffer.

And a hug to you and yours MigueldowninMexico

214 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:10:11pm

re: #211 Bobibutu

re: #204 Pawn of the Oppressor

I want to try local stuff, on the cheap if possible.

Lots of luck! :-)

No joke. My lady roommate (also a co-worker) e-mailed me from work on Thursday: "Do you want to go to New Orleans next week?"

Me: (mind full of visions of savages, flood waters, and Democratic governors, in addition to the fact that we have a cat that's just recovering from liver disease & doesn't need the stress of his owners leaving for a week) "Let me think about it"

Wait a minute... Don't they have good food in New Orleans? Gumbo? Crawfish? Alton Brown went there. Dude, you could eat alligator and bread pudding. Holy shit. FOOD!

"Yeah, let's go."

215 Highrise  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:10:21pm

re: #212 pat

haha I do too. I'm not a fan of LA..but wow..the way fjordman made it was like it was complete chaos...it was totally chicken little and I was like..whoa...dude..you don't know what you are talking about.

My lens from then on was tainted whenever fjordman talked.

Once people taint stuff, I'm skeptical even more so. It's just the way I'm built I guess. The lord gives us all gifts, this is mine to see through this!

/smile

216 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:11:38pm

re: #197 MigueldowninMexico

Miguelito

I am so sorry..G-d bless you and your son. He was blessed to have you for a Dad.

Your wife is in a better place, resting in peace.

217 pat  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:12:08pm

re: #197 MigueldowninMexico

Miguel, my thoughts are with you also. I knew the outline of your story, but not the tale. Pat

218 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:12:45pm

re: #208 Irene NYC

May your Mum have a refuah shlema..a complete recovery.

219 pat  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:13:12pm

Nite all

220 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:13:55pm

re: #215 Highrise

And Charles, with all he is going through right now, did not ban him...

221 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:14:06pm
222 blackpajamas  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:15:01pm

Satriani, gets warm and fuzzy tone, for the ladies, on Crystal Planet

223 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:16:02pm

My sympathies charles. My dad had some kinda lymph gland cancer and had to get serious treatments. He ened up getting more hair on his head due to the chemo tho. Go figure

224 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:16:53pm

re: #197 MigueldowninMexico

Querido Miguel,
Your wife is with the angels. God bless her soul. And your son? It seems like he already had a very special guardian angel himself.
{Un beso}
Irene

225 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:17:20pm
226 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:18:56pm

re: #218 NY Nana

Thank you Nana. Her doctors say she's been their bravest patient. She's been really incredible through it all.

227 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:20:08pm

#203 song_and_dance_man

What Dead Sea and Highrise said.

Like the Entry suggested: 'This Isn't Going to Be Pretty'

I said all I have to say about this disgusting catastrophe of a situation here and here.

There's really nothing else to say.

I hate Nazis. Always have, always will. And their little skinhead brothers too.

228 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:21:18pm

re: #225 NY Nana

re: #209 allahakchew

Speaking of sleepwalking in the buff... ;)

...lol...

A number had walked into the reception area asking for a newspaper or saying they wanted to check out.
229 DesertSage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:21:21pm

re: #206 Sharmuta

re: #196 DesertSage

Here's the raw gist of it, Sage.

Well, that was interesting, thanks for bringing it to my attention. I've always respected Fjordman. He has always brought a us a good prospective into the European mindset from an insiders point of view.

I think what's happening with him is desperation. He sees Europe slipping away and he's making alliances with anyone who he perceives as stopping it.
It will be interesting to see where he goes with it from here.

230 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:21:23pm

re: #202 allahakchew

Nope, not you. I win, 2 fingers down! ;)

G'nite to all..and please, for Charles' sake, play nice!

Stinky Beaumont should not have to come in and clean up the mess.

231 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:21:32pm
232 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:22:44pm

re: #213 allahakchew

re: #197 MigueldowninMexico

Charles
Of course you have my prayers for your dear mother.
And so does Noam for his brother, and all of those who suffer from this desease, will be "blanket prayed" for.

My wife died in 1992 of cancer. She was only 37. Quite sad, specially for my boy who was 12 at the time.

I'm preety sure that if she had had cancer in this last few years she might very well have vanquished it. The treatment of cancer has advanced a whole lot in the last decades.

Hugs to all who suffer.

And a hug to you and yours MigueldowninMexico


God bless you and your too! :)

233 DesertSage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:22:48pm

re: #212 pat

re: #205 Highrise
I hate LA. (lol)

LA hates you too pat.

:')

234 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:23:55pm

re: #230 NY Nana

re: #202 allahakchew

Nope, not you. I win, 2 fingers down! ;)

G'nite to all..and please, for Charles' sake, play nice!

Stinky Beaumont should not have to come in and clean up the mess.

G'nite..sleep tight...:)

235 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:24:24pm
236 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:24:44pm

re: #216 NY Nana

re: #197 MigueldowninMexico

Miguelito

I am so sorry..G-d bless you and your son. He was blessed to have you for a Dad.

Your wife is in a better place, resting in peace.

Thanks a lot Nana :)
And my son is 27 now, very happilly married and with two children, a couple. :)

237 pink freud  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:24:48pm

re: #204 Pawn of the Oppressor

Pawn:

I'm a native Louisianian and Cajun. I lived in New Orleans for a few years many years ago, but am now back in Cajun Country. I don;t know what types of food you are looking for, but New Orleans - especially the Quarter - is mostly Creole food although they do make a stab at replicating authentic Cajun. I spent a few days down in the quarter a few months back and was greatly disappointed at how far down it has gone. The restaurants that survived Katrina have opened back up, many sans their chefs upon which they made their names. As for prices - again, I was shocked. From my native perspective, the prices have nearly doubled pre-Katrina to post-Katrina, and this includes the hotel rooms (although I can only speak for the twnety or so I checked in the Quarter when I made our reservations.)

I can recommend Arnaud's for some seriously good food, more of a continental menu with a few Cajun dishes - such as duck and andouille gumbo - available.

Port-of-Call down on Esplanade (the east border of the Quarter, running north/south) serves the best burgers I've ever eaten, loaded with about 4" of shredded cheese piled on. It's a favorite of the locals, a place that hasn't changed a smidgen in the last twenty years. It's a great place to park your weary feet and enjoy an ice cold beer with a filling lunch.

You wil find now that many of the Creole restaurants have been replaced with Mexican ones. The illegal population there is phenomenal.

Lafayette is about a hundred miles ot the west, right on I-10. It's the home of Cajun cooking and beats New Orleans hands down when it comes to pleasing the palate. You might consider making a day trip to experience the true Cajun culture. The prices are - overall - about half of what you would pay in New Orleans. Plus, the 30-mile bridge over the Atchafalaya Basin is a wonderful sight, one you will never forget. The music is better, too. : ) New Orleans lost it's soul after Katrina.

Let me know if you would like any particular information and I will be happy to help you. I know that there are a few other lizards from the area ...renee de toute, for starters. Perhaps he/she can also be of helo to you.

238 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:25:27pm

re: #217 pat

re: #197 MigueldowninMexico

Miguel, my thoughts are with you also. I knew the outline of your story, but not the tale. Pat

Thanks a lot Pat.
Bless you all wonderful lizards :)

239 Rain Patriot  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:26:45pm

Late arrival to thread. Good evening, Lizards.

Think I'm obligated to uptick Foo Fighters content. Fantastic band. :)


/which one of you minused it? This could rapidly become personal.

240 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:27:39pm

re: #224 Irene NYC

re: #197 MigueldowninMexico

Querido Miguel,
Your wife is with the angels. God bless her soul. And your son? It seems like he already had a very special guardian angel himself.
{Un beso}
Irene

Muchas gracias, you're so kind.
Un beso para ti tambien :)

241 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:31:50pm

#239 Rain Patriot

FYI

re: #15 Charles

Glad to hear that, Macker.

I don't share my personal life much because there are too many creeps out there who will use it against me, but if you're the praying sort, my mother could use your prayers. She's been diagnosed with liver cancer, has already had one operation, and is now going through chemotherapy.

re: #239 Rain Patriot

242 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:31:56pm

Any socal Lizards have any harrowing tales from the recent firestorm? Like I mentioned on the afternoon open thread, I spent the first three nights of this week in a shelter with other evacuees and was only able to head home a little more than 24 hours ago.

While I was kicking back on a cot in a Christian school gym for three nights, I had time to contemplate the differences between the reactions from this week's fires and the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Some could say the relatively swift reaction time for rescue and relief is a by-product of FEMA and other government agencies wanting not to appear as though they're dragging their feet like what happened in Louisiana. Of course, the Al Sharptons and Spike Lees will want the rest of the world to believe that it's because of all the white people in San Diego and can only be satisfied if FEMA and the state or local agencies can screw the pooch as badly as Louisiana did two years ago and leave some half-million evacuees out of their homes. Now I know I'll never get the chance to ask these race-hustling ass-clowns to their face, but if this fairly quick response by the city & County of San Diego, the state of California, FEMA and all these volunteers and insurance companies was exclusively for the benefit of 'whitey', why were announcements at the shelter being made in English and Spanish ? Why were notices posted on the board in English and Spanish ? I mean...maybe they were providing real-world lessons for all the white kids who were taking a Spanish class or something. Seems like a lot of trouble to come up with that on such short notice.

Unbelievable- it's like we're supposed to apologize to these mother[expletive deleted]ing [expletive deleted]suckers because our homes didn't burn down.

243 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:32:19pm

Well, Fjordman is right that we in America lack knowledge of Europe.
That's a fact.

It's also a fact that Fjordman lacks knowledge about the United States.
I've told him that.

Europe is sooo complicated now a days.

244 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:32:35pm

oops sorry double paste...

245 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:32:57pm

re: #234 allahakchew

I can never be trusted when I say good night! But I wanted to answer..

Sweet dreams to you, and gezuntheit! I just had to say it again, I just had to!

Re the sleepwalking? Incredible. I guess that guys should wear Dr. Dentons, but possibly in another color!

246 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:33:34pm

#235 song_and_dance_man

Did he answer you? I know he didn't answer me.

Yeah, he did:

There were no Nazis at that conference. I don't associate with Nazis, and I'm tired of repeating nonsense.

This after LGFers had spent an evening trading links to VB and SD papers and photos that were quite alarming, and damning. Maybe he didn't know, and maybe the people who showed up for the conference weren't Nazi, but their followers/members sure as hell were/are. Honestly, this is rubbish. The parties themselves are compromised by "ethnic homogeneity" talk and all that that leads to. This is a catastrophe.

And I'm starting to get a clue about why some of the Euro members of the A-J don't like Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

247 mountain  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:33:39pm

Here's a couple more good Foo Fighters tunes for the late night Lizards.

248 Irene NYC  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:34:06pm

re: #242 Fenway_Nation

Hug your family and forget those losers. I'm glad you had a home to go back to.

249 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:34:26pm
250 gop_patriot  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:35:54pm

Praising with Macker, praying for Charles' mom and everyone else who has requests. What a fantastic bunch of people we have here...

***

And, that song ROCKS, where have I been for the last month? I hadn't heard it until now! Sheesh. Went straight over to iTunes and bought it.

251 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:36:17pm

re: #245 NY Nana

re: #234 allahakchew

I can never be trusted when I say good night! But I wanted to answer..

Sweet dreams to you, and gezuntheit! I just had to say it again, I just had to!

Re the sleepwalking? Incredible. I guess that guys should wear Dr. Dentons, but possibly in another color!

...lol...

252 BenZacharia  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:38:56pm

allah is in the WH while the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has been kicked out of veterans funerals at the direction of Washington.

253 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:39:30pm

re: #246 Tasty Beverage

And I'm starting to get a clue about why some of the Euro members of the A-J don't like Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

Wow...thanks for sharing it with me.

254 allahakchew  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:40:06pm

akchew...

Sweet dreams to you, and gezuntheit! I just had to say it again, I just had to

Nite!...time for me...

255 gop_patriot  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:40:32pm

re: #252 BenZacharia

allah is in the WH while the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has been kicked out of veterans funerals at the direction of Washington.

Oh my GOSH. This is an outrage.

256 Highrise  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:40:33pm

re: #246 Tasty Beverage

yep

257 NY Nana  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:41:00pm

re: #236 MigueldowninMexico

¡Eres un Abuelito! Eso es el mejor experienca en la vida...tengo 2 nietas, y un nietecito, que va a complir 14 meses de edad en 2 dias..

Las nietas tienen 5 y 7 años.

Abrazos para tus nietos, viejito...ya me voy a dormir; que te duermes bien.

258 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:41:20pm
259 blackpajamas  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:42:18pm

re: #231 song_and_dance_man

We were the only ones rocking; everyone else was slacked jawed at his amazing performance and he would look at us loving it, and maybe that is why he threw so many picks our way.

Nice!

Here's another Satch song, for the ladies, called Love Enternal (ignore the vid).

It's closing in on the time of my midnight feeding, so I must depart.

260 Bordm  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:42:32pm

Charles
I pray your mom joins the ever growing list of cancer survivors. We only get one mother and she can never be replaced.

261 Render  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:45:29pm

This whole things been bugging me ever since it started.

I don't like nazi's, old or neo, Euro or American.

No, that's too nice a way to put it.

I despise the sickening pukes and everything they stand for. I salt the earth where they walk.

No way in hell am I ever going to accept them as my allies. If they were on fire, I wouldn't piss on them to put it out. Let em burn...

I'm sure as shit not pressed when I see them coming to the suddenly new found realization that their Islamofascist former allies are now turning on them.

===

Belgium's VB and Sweden's SD have shown me nothing, absolutely nothing, to convince me that they are not what they once were, in a new suit. I see desperation, but no remorse.

I see awareness, and I see ongoing links to Stormfront.

I read a once respected LFGer writing, "Iraq was a mistake."

I see enough. I read too much...

===

Americans are on the battlefields, all over this stinkin ball of mud. We haven't backed down and we haven't quit.

Our sons and daughters, husbands and wives, mothers and fathers are still out there.

Fixing the problems Europe began creating long centuries ago, and didn't finally wash their pitiful hands of until less than a century ago.

I suppose I should be impressed with the collective European mastery of mistakes. I might be more inclined to do so if my family tree had any roots...

===

Lose the twisted cross, lose the Jew hatred, or...

FOAD,
R

262 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:45:44pm

kitten break

[Link: dailykitten.com...]

263 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:45:46pm
264 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:47:16pm

re: #257 NY Nana

re: #236 MigueldowninMexico

¡Eres un Abuelito! Eso es el mejor experienca en la vida...tengo 2 nietas, y un nietecito, que va a complir 14 meses de edad en 2 dias..

Las nietas tienen 5 y 7 años.

Abrazos para tus nietos, viejito...ya me voy a dormir; que te duermes bien.

Si! Una nieta de 4 y un nieto de 1 y medio. Es una experiencia maravillosa! jejeje.
Igual abrazos para toda tu familia abuelita ;)
Que Dios los bendiga.

265 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:49:57pm
266 Bobibutu  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:51:13pm

re: #214 Pawn of the Oppressor

Gator is yummy. Cooked right.

Buddy of mine (from VN era) was just there reprogramming an ATM machine (it was a b*tch and took a lot of extra time).

Whining to me about not haven eaten for 12 hours and couldn't bring himself to pay 25 bucks for a snack.

DT Orleans on the riverbank. Hi rent district. Great scenery but not where you want to get food.

One good reason to go:

After heart surgery in 2006 he performed at JazzFest, and helped reopen the Bay St. Louis Casino which has the new name of the Hollywood Casino. As of March, 2007 he has returned to performing Tuesday and Wednesday nights there.

I heard him live in the '60's - catch him before he is gone!

267 MigueldowninMexico  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:51:51pm

re: #258 song_and_dance_man

C'mon you don't even know the ground you're standing
on and you tell me you know Europe?
Hahahaha. Sure.

You call youself a Christian, and you hate Catholics. Your belief is that Christianity is about hating. Wrong.

And you must hate Jesus Christ too, as you want to take 1.2 billion worshipers away from Him.

-No they are not your people! No! Only ME! I AM a Christian but not the 1,200,000,000 Catholics in the world. You Jesus, don't know who your followers are, I DO!.

Yes you must know a whole lot about Europe.

268 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:52:49pm

#253 Sharmuta
#256 Highrise

It's kind of obvious isn't it?

Hirsi Ali came to the West and thoroughly absorbed, happily absorbed Western values, but still some people object to her. People who are supposedly Anti-Jihad, even though she has so much to contribute.

And before anyone makes a "she was a socialist!" comment, "socialism" is unfortunately a Western construct as well. She just soaked up her environment back then in the Netherlands.

269 Rain Patriot  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:55:32pm

re: #241 allahakchew

Oh...

Thank you for pointing that out to me...

One more lizard adds his prayers.

270 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:55:42pm

re: #248 Irene NYC

re: #242 Fenway_Nation

Hug your family and forget those losers. I'm glad you had a home to go back to.

In the grand scheme of things, I was inconveninced for a few days while learning valuable lessons on priorities, volunteering and determination. Whatever pre-emptive anger I'm feeling towards said dead-horse-beating racist losers is offset by the professionalism of the firefighters, police, Marines and Nat'l Gaurdsman who came in this week. Me and some of my friends met up at a pizza place last night and the place was packed to the ceiling with both regulars and evacuees waiting to head home. In one corner, there were some firemen who clearly looked like they came in off the fire lines for a bite to eat. When they got up from their table, a few people began clapping and whistling and it continued until pretty much everyone in the resturant was giving them a standing ovation. I can't help but think if it were some other parts of the country, people might be coming up to them demanding to know what took so long.

Seriously- stay classy San Diego

271 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:56:27pm

Corporation: noun: An ingenious device for obtaining profit without individual responsibility.

272 DesertSage  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:57:40pm

re: #267 MigueldowninMexico

Hey Miguel!

You know, some of us Jews think that Jesus was a pretty good guy also.

273 leepro  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 11:58:04pm

re: #229 DesertSage

re: #206 Sharmuta

re: #196 DesertSage

Here's the raw gist of it, Sage.

Well, that was interesting, thanks for bringing it to my attention. I've always respected Fjordman. He has always brought a us a good prospective into the European mindset from an insiders point of view.

I think what's happening with him is desperation. He sees Europe slipping away and he's making alliances with anyone who he perceives as stopping it.
It will be interesting to see where he goes with it from here.

I feel like I'm sorta stuck in the middle here, as far as Fjordman is concerned. I find myself almost crying in sympathy with his plight. He's over there in the middle of it. He's much closer to the blood and guts, bombs and bullets than we are. And he's scared!

And he may even be right — at least partially — in his description of Americans not getting it, not "understanding" the enemy. I don't think he meant that in the PC fashion, but that many Americans (liberals) do not understand the sneaky, undermining, PC, manipulative tactics that are their weapons of this day. And you're right. It's desperation. He looks up to America, and doesn't want us to come to destruction. I do not condemn him for his comments, did not ding him.

I need to give this some more thought. It's nearly 2:00am here and I'm tired.

274 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:00:28am

re: #272 DesertSage

re: #267 MigueldowninMexico

Hey Miguel!

You know, some of us Jews think that Jesus was a pretty good guy also.

Hey Sage!
He was a Jew after all, you know? ;)

275 Tasty Beverage  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:00:57am

#261 Render

Belgium's VB and Sweden's SD have shown me nothing, absolutely nothing, to convince me that they are not what they once were, in a new suit. I see desperation, but no remorse.

I see awareness, and I see ongoing links to Stormfront.

I can't find the link now, but it was in the last two days here at LGF, having to do with Filip de Winter, and he mentioned how they have "militants" in their party.

That means skinheads.

Fuck all of them. All you idiot Euros needed to do was say, and it sometimes pains me to repeat Michael Savage, "Borders, Language, Culture". That's it. That's all that matters in the end. That is all that makes a nation.

276 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:01:12am

re: #267 MigueldowninMexico

Please- not tonight!

277 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:02:55am

re: #276 Sharmuta

re: #267 MigueldowninMexico

Please- not tonight!

Duh!
:p

Sticking tongue :p

278 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:04:18am
279 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:04:28am

re: #274 MigueldowninMexico

re: #272 DesertSage

re: #267 MigueldowninMexico

Hey Miguel!

You know, some of us Jews think that Jesus was a pretty good guy also.

Hey Sage!
He was a Jew after all, you know? ;)

You can be funny with a fact!

Don't tase me Bro.

280 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:04:59am

re: #279 Bobibutu

LOL

281 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:05:30am
282 Render  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:05:41am

A nice Jewish boy, he went into his fathers business.

EH,
R

283 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:07:42am

re: #282 Render

Render,

That was truly terrible!
;)

284 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:09:19am
285 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:10:26am

re: #273 leepro

I know it's a bit shocking, but...he dissed us- LGF.

I heartedly disagree with him. LGFers are among the most knowledgeable of who our enemy is that you'll find. He's wrong and he can kiss my *ss.

286 DesertSage  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:11:31am

re: #273 leepro

Hi Leepro!

I think you're correct in your assessment. Europe is a disaster and Fjordman doesn't want to see the US make the same mistakes as his continent has.

I think he sees America as the last hope for freedom...and he is probably right. In fact, he's definitely right...and he's desperate! The problem is that he's making some alliances there in Europe that probably aren't the smartest alliances to make. It's kind of like when we allied with Russia to defeat Hitler. At the time we had to make a pact with the lesser of two evils. It still wasn't right, but it was something we had to do.

Like you, I'm going to have to think about this some more...and I hope Fjordman does also.

287 leepro  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:12:44am

re: #264 MigueldowninMexico

re: #257 NY Nana

re: #236 MigueldowninMexico

%uFFFDEres un Abuelito! Eso es el mejor experienca en la vida...tengo 2 nietas, y un nietecito, que va a complir 14 meses de edad en 2 dias..

Las nietas tienen 5 y 7 a%uFFFDos.

Abrazos para tus nietos, viejito...ya me voy a dormir; que te duermes bien.

Si! Una nieta de 4 y un nieto de 1 y medio. Es una experiencia maravillosa! jejeje.
Igual abrazos para toda tu familia abuelita ;)
Que Dios los bendiga.

That's not fair, you two. Translation is mandatory!

;)

288 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:13:50am

re: #287 leepro

Just familiar references. Talking about our folks ;)

289 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:16:14am

DesertSage

Sometimes the 'enemy of your enemy' needs killin' too.

290 RTLM  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:16:20am

re: #275 Tasty Beverage

"Borders, Language, Culture". That's it. That's all that matters in the end. That is all that makes a nation.

Beats; Location Location Location

291 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:17:04am
292 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:18:07am

re: #281 song_and_dance_man

re: #267 MigueldowninMexico

re: #258 song_and_dance_man

C'mon you don't even know the ground you're standing
on and you tell me you know Europe?
Hahahaha. Sure.

You call youself a Christian, and you hate Catholics. Your belief is that Christianity is about hating. Wrong.

And you must hate Jesus Christ too, as you want to take 1.2 billion worshipers away from Him.

-No they are not your people! No! Only ME! I AM a Christian but not the 1,200,000,000 Catholics in the world. You Jesus, don't know who your followers are, I DO!.

Yes you must know a whole lot about Europe.

That is quite a charge you claim against me.

I suggest you examine yourself before laying at my feet something you hold yourself.

Go ahead and say what you must since you have proved to be ignorant of what binds us, well maybe not you.

My Grandma, who raised me, (born in 1888) taught me - along with other things - to argue about everything except religion and politics because in those two there can be no winner and only hurt feelings and beliefs.

Her lessons have served me well.

I offer this as food for thot - grist for the mill.

293 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:19:49am

re: #281 song_and_dance_man

I think Miguel was being unfair but I hope we can drop this tonight- we've had quite an evening already. Please?

294 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:21:28am

re: #293 Sharmuta

re: #281 song_and_dance_man

I think Miguel was being unfair but I hope we can drop this tonight- we've had quite an evening already. Please?

Is that a Bomb? ":^)

295 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:21:31am

MdiM

I disagree with and think 6 billion people are wrong, doesn't mean I hate them.

296 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:23:41am

Gawd, Ingrid Michaelson is a darling!

297 Carridine  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:24:17am

re: #292 Bobibutu

When two (or more) are ARGUING about religion, they're both wrong.

***

When two are setting forth arguments, positions, understandings about religion, in a manner conducive to learning, they might BOTH be right, and they can both at least LEARN in the process, Bobi.

298 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:24:53am

re: #294 Bobibutu

I think some of us are a bit taken aback from earlier still. We shouldn't lash out at each other because we're upset with someone else- it's unfair.

299 leepro  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:25:03am

re: #285 Sharmuta

re: #286 DesertSage

Sharm, I saw his remark, but still wonder (especially with some of the less-than-polite cracks he's gotten from some of our less-than-polite posters) if his desperation wasn't showing then, too.

Sage, you are right, too, and I sort of agree about the chosen alliances. But he is over there. He has no other entity to attach himself to. And if he stands alone? In that arena? God help him!

Gotta go to bed ! ! !

300 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:26:04am
301 Render  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:26:22am

There is much of Europe still worth saving. Enough that I would not complain about doing so again, when we have too, again.

Just not the stinking nazi's.

NEVER,
R

302 mountain  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:27:40am

Well, this is disappointing. It looks like one of the few good guys (Bruce Willis) in Hollywood is going to be part of the next "look at how evil America is" Oliver Stone Vietnam flick.

303 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:29:00am

re: #298 Sharmuta

re: #294 Bobibutu

I think some of us are a bit taken aback from earlier still. We shouldn't lash out at each other because we're upset with someone else- it's unfair.

Roger Hon - Concur!

304 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:29:45am
305 Highrise  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:31:31am

OK, so what is everyone doing this weekend?

I have no plans...yet.

306 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:32:45am

re: #300 song_and_dance_man

re: #292 Bobibutu

re: #281 song_and_dance_man

re: #267 MigueldowninMexico

re: #258 song_and_dance_man

C'mon you don't even know the ground you're standing
on and you tell me you know Europe?
Hahahaha. Sure.

You call youself a Christian, and you hate Catholics. Your belief is that Christianity is about hating. Wrong.

And you must hate Jesus Christ too, as you want to take 1.2 billion worshipers away from Him.

-No they are not your people! No! Only ME! I AM a Christian but not the 1,200,000,000 Catholics in the world. You Jesus, don't know who your followers are, I DO!.

Yes you must know a whole lot about Europe.

That is quite a charge you claim against me.

I suggest you examine yourself before laying at my feet something you hold yourself.

Go ahead and say what you must since you have proved to be ignorant of what binds us, well maybe not you.

My Grandma, who raised me, (born in 1888) taught me - along with other things - to argue about everything except religion and politics because in those two there can be no winner and only hurt feelings and beliefs.

Her lessons have served me well.

I offer this as food for thot - grist for the mill.

One of the things I have always liked about LGF is that we do talk about politics and religion. LGF is a tough room. Some, apparently, can't handle it.

Take a good long look at what Miguel has said, and if I must I will post the post of mine that pissed him off and compare my original post with the many that he has directed towards me vicariously. Miguel is out of line, but after reading from him that I'm a piece of crap and had FU hurled my way I expected no less that what he wrote tonight.

Intermission while I take a break.

307 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:33:35am

Guys? Let's save it for the mobies.

/and trolls- ;)

308 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:33:35am

re: #302 mountain

Willis? You mean the guy who gave 100K to a clinton pac? And also attended a clinton fundraiser ar babs? What gave you the idea he was a good guy? Movies?

309 kickstar1  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:33:46am

charles dude. you're hilarious. I thought you were a 'jazz snob'. but no, you dig the rock. you rock.

310 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:38:59am

re: #307 Sharmuta

Guys? Let's save it for the mobies.

/and trolls- ;)

Roger!

311 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:39:20am

re: #293 Sharmuta

re: #281 song_and_dance_man

I think Miguel was being unfair but I hope we can drop this tonight- we've had quite an evening already. Please?

You are being unfair to me Sharmuta.
You don't know the background of this and all the abuse I had to endure from that hater.
Now, I was keeping silent because you asked me to.
And five minutes later you say I'm unfair.
I repeat, you don't know the background of this.

312 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:40:01am

Guys- you notice any funny business with the dings downstairs?

313 mountain  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:43:21am

re: #308 BenZacharia

He's always been supportive of Republicans from what i understood. I heard that he's recently downplayed the fact that he's a conservative, but i assumed it was because he felt it was hurting his career. Did he give money to Hillary this election cycle, or was it to Bill back in the 90's?

314 Carridine  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:43:39am

re: #312 Sharmuta

Yep... Charles (and others) noticed that for a while the system was allowing people to ding themselves. Charles said he squashed that bug, Sharmy...

315 devnulled  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:44:05am

In this day and age it is hard to find a legitimate angstlike song. The Foo Foo Fighters (as my wife calls them) did it up pretty well here... with a nod to the visuals more than the cryptic lyrics anyway.

Thoughts and prayers to Charles.

316 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:44:42am

OK - how about this?

317 RTLM  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:45:14am

The Pope is not a "pimp".
The statement should be apologized for. And the apology accepted.

Then we could move beyond this inter-acrimony. I'm disappointed in both of you.

You for saying the vile thing.

And you for jumping off a cliff.

318 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:46:51am

re: #314 Carridine

No- that's not what I'm talking about.

319 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:46:52am

re: #313 mountain

It was a Gore fundraiser. He may not have supported clinton after all, don't know.

320 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:47:34am

re: #317 RTLM

We had people agree to drop this.

321 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:49:31am

re: #317 RTLM

The Pope is not a "pimp".
The statement should be apologized for. And the apology accepted.

Then we could move beyond this inter-acrimony. I'm disappointed in both of you.

You for saying the vile thing.

And you for jumping off a cliff.

RTLM. For us Catholics the Pope is our father. We call him the Holy Father.
That hater called the Pope a pimp out of the blue, coming down with a big pile of hatred for us Catholics.
I hadn't even addressed him before, as the thread was about something good the Pope did. But he couldn't take it, his hatred can not allow any good comments about Catholicism.
It would have been as if I have insulted his father of his mother.
That is very debased and lowly.
"What unites us" is not hatred of Catholicism for sure.

But if I defend myself from such grave insults, I'm "unfair"
How lovely.

I dissapointed you because I defended my father when someone, out of the blue, insulted him?
Sorry man, I'm going to disappoint you many times.

322 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:51:40am
323 WrathofG-d  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:54:57am

Ok so I shouldn't be on the computer, let alone posting.

But if some way I could get Charles's mothers name...(you can send me at WrathofG-d@hotmail.com) I will add her name to the prayer for the sick at shul.

324 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:59:39am
325 RTLM  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:01:58am

re: #321 MigueldowninMexico

More Catholic mockery than actual hate. I feel it too. I'm Catholic / Southern Baptist.

(had fairly odd parents)

326 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:03:22am

re: #322 song_and_dance_man

re: #311 MigueldowninMexico

If you think it is imperitive that you must be liked then you picked the wrong place to pander.

You may not like those who grain against your 'truth' but get used to it. Not all believe as you. Get over it.

"Truth" is that which dose not change.

truth - small t - is variable within context.

327 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:10:19am

I tried.

Again to Charles- prayers for your Mom. God bless you both.

328 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:10:58am
329 jehu  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:11:02am

Until we deal with the Islamic threat all intra-Christian, or intra Western nation arguments should be suspended. And for those that think Europe will just roll over and die...I don't think so, look what is happening in France and the recent vote in Switzerland. Twice in history the Islamic snake has tried to swallow the West. This time it will choke to death on the meal.

330 Highrise  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:13:05am

It also must be noted that a certain someone here sometimes pokes a stick in the ant hill then r uns elsewhere to yuck it up.

Uncool.

Some

are

being

played.

331 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:14:02am

re: #329 jehu

From your mouth to G-ds ears.

332 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:28:22am
333 Opilio  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:36:35am

Well, that seems to have doused the last spark.

334 Render  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:37:48am

I got a place in my trenches for Catholics, and any other Christian sect that will stand by me and mine.

I weary of the divisions. This is not the place, and there is no more time for that.

STAND
FAST,
R

335 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:39:56am

Hot Chicken Curry

Serves 4

2 Tablespoons corn oil
¼ teaspoon fenugreek seeds
¼ teaspoon onion seeds
2 onions, chopped
½ teaspoon garlic pulp
½ teaspoon ginger pulp
1 teaspoon ground coriander
1 teaspoon chili powder
1 teaspoon salt
1 ¾ cups canned tomatoes (or fresh if you prefer)
2 tablespoons lemon juice
2 ½ cups chicken, skinned, boned and cubed
3 fresh green chilies, chopped
½ red bell pepper, cut into chunks
½ green bell pepper, cut into chunks
fresh cilantro sprigs

Step 1: in a medium sauce pan, heat the oil and fry the fenugreek and onion seeds until the turn a shade darker. Ad the chopped onions, garlic and ginger and fry for about 5 minutes until the onions turn golden brown, turn heat to very low.

Step 2. Mix the ground coriander, chili powder, salt, canned tomatoes and lemon juice in a separate bowl.

Step 3. pour this mix into the saucepan. Turn heat to medium for about 3 minutes while stir-frying.

Step 4. Add chicken and stir fry for 5-7 minutes.

336 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:40:11am

Step 5. Add the fresh cilantro, green chilis and red and green bell peppers. Lower heat , cover saucepan and simmer for about 10 minutes until chicken is cooked.

Step 6. Serve hot, with cilantro sprigs

337 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:40:40am

Chinese Barbecued Pork

Serves 4 to 6

1.5 lbs pork tenderloin (2-3 tenderloins)
1 medium rib celery, finely chopped
1 medium carrot, finely chopped
1 medium onion, finely chopped
1 tablespoon minced fresh ginger
5 strips fresh tangerine or orange zest (each 2 x .3 inches; removed with a vegetable peeler)
.67 cup rice wine or dry sherry
.33 cup soy sauce
.33 cup pure maple syrup
2 tablespoons Asian (dark) sesame oil

1. trim the tenderloins of excess fat or sinew. Mix the celery, carror, onion, ginger, zest, sherry, soy sauce, maple syrup, and 1 tablespoon of sesame oil in a baking dish and mix. Ad the tenderloins, coating them. Cover and let marinate in the refrigerator 24-48 hrs, turning occasionally.
2. preheat over or grill to medium high.
3. Remove tenderloins from the marinade and dry with paper towels. Strain marinade into a small saucepan and bring to a boil over a medium-high heat. Boil until thick and syrupy (5-8 minutes).
4. Brush tenderloins with remaining 1 tablespoon of soy sauce. Arrange tenderloins on hot grate and grill, turning with tongs until pork is brown and cooked through (16 minutes or so). Brush with heated marinade after about 10 minutes.
5. transfer tenderloins to cutting board and let coil for 5 minutes. Cut as needed.

338 Highrise  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:41:16am

Jewels,

Can I rent you for a week to teach me to cook?

hehe

339 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:41:18am

Mushrooms with Chipotle Chilies

Serves 6
4 cups button mushrooms
4 tablespoons olive oil
1 onion, finely chopped
2 garlic cloves, chopped
2 drained canned chipotle chilies, rinsed and sliced
salt
chopped fresh cilantro, to garnish

Step 1: wipe the mushrooms gentle with kitchen paper. Heat the olive oil in a heavy frying pan and add the mushrooms, onion, garlic, and sliced chipotles. Stir to coat the vegetables in oil

Step 2: Fry the mixture over a medium heat for 6-8 minutes until onions and mushrooms are tender, Season to taste with salt and serve on small individual plates, sprinkled with fresh cilantro

340 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:41:57am

Tom Yam Gong (Spicy Lemon Grass Soup with Shrimp)

Serves 4-6
1 lb jumbo shrimp
4 cups chicken stock or water
3 lemon grass stalks
10 kaffir lime leaves, torn in half
8 oz can straw mushrooms, drained
3 tablespoons fish sauce
.25 cup lime juice
2 tablespoons chopped scallion
1 tablespoon cilantro leaves
4 red chilies, seeded and chopped
2 scallions, finely chopped

Step 1: shell and devein the shrimp and set aside, Rinse the shrimp shells and place ina large saucepan with the stock or water and bring to a boil.

Step 2: bruise the lemongrass stalks with the blunt edge of a knife and add them to the stock, together with half the lime leaves. Simmer gently for 5-6 minutes, until the stalks change colour and the stock is fragrant.

Step 3: Strain the stock and return to the saucepan and reheat. Add the mushrooms and shrimp, then cook until the shrimp turn pink

Step 4: Stir in the fish sauce, scallions, lime juice, cilantro, red chilies and the rest of the lime leaves. Taste and adjust the seasoning. It should be sour, salty, spicy and hot.

341 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:42:13am

Spicy Shrimp with Cornmeal

Serves 4

.75 cup cornmeal
1-2 teaspoons cayenne pepper
.5 teaspoon ground cumin
1 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons chopped fresh cilantro or parsley
2 pounds large raw gulf shrimp, shelled and devined
flour, for dredging
.25 cup vegetable oil
1 cup shredded Monterey Jack or Cheddar cheese

To serve:
Lime wedges
Tomato Salsa

Step 1: preheat the broiler. Ina mixing bowl, combine the cornmeal, cayenne pepper, cumin, salt, and cilantro or parsley

Step 2: Cot the shrimp lightly in flower, then dip them in water and roll them in the cornmeal mix to coat
Step 3: heat the oil in a non stick frying pan. When hot, add the shrimp, in batches if needed. Cook them until they are opaque throughout, for about 2-3 minutes on each side. Drain on paper towels.

Step 4: place the shrimp in a large blending dish or individual dishes. Sprinkle the cheese on top. Broil about three inches from the heat until the cheese melts (2-3 minutes). Serve immediately with the lime wedges and tomato salsa.

342 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:43:12am

Cajun ‘Popcorn’ shrimp

2 lbs raw crayfish tails, peeled, or small shrimp, shell and deveined
2 eggs
1 cup white wine (very dry)
.5 cup fine cornmeal (or all purpose flour, if not available)
.5 cup all purpose flour
1 tablespoon snipped fresh chives
1 garlic clove, crushed
.5 teaspoon fresh thyme leaves
.25 teaspoon salt
.25 teaspoon cayenne pepper
.25 teaspoon ground black pepper
oil, for deep frying

For the mayonnaise
1 egg yolk
2 teaspoons Dijon mustard
1 tablespoon white vinegar
1 cup olive or vegetable oil
.5 cup fresh basil leaves, chopped
salt and ground black pepper

Step 1: rinse the crayfish or shrimp in cold water. Drain well and set aside in a cool place

Step 2: mix together the eggs and wine in a small bowl

Step 3: in a mixing bowl, combine the cornmeal and/or flour, chives, garlic, thyme, salt cayenne, and pepper. Gradually whisk in the egg mixture, blending well. Cover the batter and let stand for one hour at room temperature.

Step 4: For the mayonnaise, combine the egg yolk, mustard, vinegar in a mixing bowl and add salt and pepper to taste. Add the oil ina thin stream, beating vigiously with a wire whisk. When the mixture is thick and smooth, stir in the basil. Cover and chill until ready to serve.

Step 5: heat 3 inches of oil in a large skillet or deep fryer to a temp of 350 F. dip the seafood into the batter and fry in small batches for 2-3 minutes until golden brown. Turn as necessary for even coloring. Remove with a slotted spoon and drain on paper towels. Serve hot with the mayo

343 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:43:47am

re: #321 MigueldowninMexico

re: #317 RTLM

The Pope is not a "pimp".
The statement should be apologized for. And the apology accepted.

Then we could move beyond this inter-acrimony. I'm disappointed in both of you.

You for saying the vile thing.

And you for jumping off a cliff.

RTLM. For us Catholics the Pope is our father. We call him the Holy Father.
That hater called the Pope a pimp out of the blue, coming down with a big pile of hatred for us Catholics.
I hadn't even addressed him before, as the thread was about something good the Pope did. But he couldn't take it, his hatred can not allow any good comments about Catholicism.
It would have been as if I have insulted his father of his mother.
That is very debased and lowly.
"What unites us" is not hatred of Catholicism for sure.

But if I defend myself from such grave insults, I'm "unfair"
How lovely.

I dissapointed you because I defended my father when someone, out of the blue, insulted him?
Sorry man, I'm going to disappoint you many times.

Good morning Miguel. If I can throw my fifty cents at you here, I think that one of the things you need to try to keep firmly in your mind is that all those who worship the true G_d are under attack in one way or another and it will probably get worse before it gets better.

The very first thing that Jesus says when he is asked how we will know that the End is near is to "Watch that you are not deceived!" We had somebody in here yesterday morning trying really hard to convince us all that we could solve the entire terror problem by simply becoming muslim ourselves. The idiot claimed that to not do so was "unchristian" because we were not following the golden rule.

There is something else that Jesus tells us to keep in mind. He says that many will come in his name, even working miracles but that when they stand before the throne on Judgment Day, they will be told "I never knew you." There have always been and will be for some time yet people who claim to be children of G_d who are not. No church is immune from this.

I hear a lot of "Judge not that you be not judged" being thrown around these days, invariably with the interpretation that "all cultures are equal" attached. There is a difference between rendering judgment and differentiating between ideas and actions. We are, in fact, told to do some differentiating and given some clues about what to look for.

Thus a famous and "well loved" Protestant preacher stood up some years back and told the world that he needed to raise some huge amount of money (millions, I no longer recall the exact amount) by a certain day and if he did not raise that money, "G_d will call me home." In other words, if he didn't get the money, he was going to die and go to heaven. Isn't a Christian's goal to join our Father in Heaven? Why would that be some kind of punishment? And since when is the true G_d a loan shark? This preacher worships the Wrong Jesus and it is perfectly valid for me to decide that.

You and I both know that there have been Popes who were good and others that have obviously not been worshiping the right G_d. Two thousand years is a long time. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And religion is, after all, of man, not of G_d - at least that is what Jesus said. Try to remember that when old stan shows up here pushing your buttons again.

/so how are you today besides mad as a wet hen?

344 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:48:03am

re: #343 galloping granny

Hahahahahaha,
That was a great post granny.
Thanks a lot for telling me that :)
God bless you.

I'm not mad. I just wanted to expose the thoughts in some hearts.
But you're right, I should keep to myself and not allow being used.
Thanks.
I'm ok in general, how about you?

345 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:49:26am

re: #340 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Tom Yam Gong (Spicy Lemon Grass Soup with Shrimp)

This sounds wonderful Jewels. Unfortunately my daughter is deathly allergic to shrimp. Can't have it in the house at all. Worse, we cannot even go to a restaurant together where they cook lots of shrimp, crabs & lobster :( Something I do miss. . . .

346 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:49:56am

Granny
Yes I remember that guy saying that if we become muslims there would be not more problems with them. I was in the DT.
HA!

I also remember Oral Roberts. I was living in the USA when the eight million dollar thing was happening.

347 Opilio  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:50:16am

No need to resort to decimal notation in recipes:

¼ = ¼
½ = ½
¾ = ¾
⅓ = ⅓
⅔ = ⅔

why type 2 characters when you can type 7? :-)

348 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:53:00am

re: #347 Opilio

No need to resort to decimal notation in recipes:

¼ = ¼
½ = ½
¾ = ¾
%u2153 = ⅓
%u2154 = ⅔

why type 2 characters when you can type 7? :-)

I have the same problem in reverse.
Spanish signs can be written, but either you refresh the page to see them, or one can write them using that htlm code.

349 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:53:14am

re: #344 MigueldowninMexico

re: #343 galloping granny

Hahahahahaha,
That was a great post granny.
Thanks a lot for telling me that :)
God bless you.

I'm not mad. I just wanted to expose the thoughts in some hearts.
But you're right, I should keep to myself and not allow being used.
Thanks.
I'm ok in general, how about you?

Up earlier than usual. Note that I did NOT say you should keep to yourself. Definitely NOT. The not being used part is good, but more importantly, you need to keep in mind that old stan knows where to push your buttons and he will come at you with everything he's got. Especially now. You are here for a reason and your voice is important. Don't let some devil in idiot's clothes distract you.

350 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:55:16am

re: #346 MigueldowninMexico

Granny
Yes I remember that guy saying that if we become muslims there would be not more problems with them. I was in the DT.
HA!

I also remember Oral Roberts. I was living in the USA when the eight million dollar thing was happening.

He stuck around for hours after you left! Pretty much until the time that Charles got out of bed and deleted him. Stinky seemed to be nowhere to be found :(

351 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:55:45am
352 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:56:35am

re: #349 galloping granny

Wow granny, powerful preaching!

Thanks a whole lot.

353 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:58:08am

re: #351 song_and_dance_man

re: #349 galloping granny

Don't let some devil in idiot's clothes distract you.

I've seen that guy.

Haven't we ALL seen that guy!

354 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:58:43am

re: #350 galloping granny

re: #346 MigueldowninMexico

Granny
Yes I remember that guy saying that if we become muslims there would be not more problems with them. I was in the DT.
HA!

I also remember Oral Roberts. I was living in the USA when the eight million dollar thing was happening.

He stuck around for hours after you left! Pretty much until the time that Charles got out of bed and deleted him. Stinky seemed to be nowhere to be found :(

Wow! He was truly crazy!
Become muslims and we won't have any more problems with them. Isn't it logical? Oh yes sure it is...if you want to become a slave to a horrible cult.
So he went on and on? wow he was on a mission.

OTOH Stinky has to rest, he does a lot of work. ;)

355 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:59:34am

re: #352 MigueldowninMexico

re: #349 galloping granny

Wow granny, powerful preaching!

Thanks a whole lot.

Sometimes friends need friends. But I hope I wasn't preaching.

356 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:59:38am
357 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 1:59:45am

Jewels
If you're still around, thanks a lot!
Sleep tight :)

358 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:00:39am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

359 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:00:44am

re: #355 galloping granny

re: #352 MigueldowninMexico

re: #349 galloping granny

Wow granny, powerful preaching!

Thanks a whole lot.

Sometimes friends need friends. But I hope I wasn't preaching.

Oh yes! Sometimes preaching is very good!
At least for me, today.
Thanks again. :)

360 Highrise  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:01:34am

re: #358 littleoldlady

Phew..I got one!

361 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:02:27am

littleoldlady
Thanks for the fruitcup.
Prompt as always ;)

362 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:03:49am

The perfect bedtime snack. Thanks, littleoldlady!

363 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:04:54am

Good morning littleoldlady. How're you this fine day?

364 RTLM  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:07:49am

re: #358 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Always loaded up on the bacon, eggs, biscuits and gravy before I got to the fruit cup.

Omelettes are good too.

365 Rain Patriot  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:08:03am

Miguel's insomnia trumps mine yet again. At 5:07 after a long night lurking, I check out. Night, Lizards.

366 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:08:38am

re: #358 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

YUM! Thanks! :)

(Why am I still up?) LOL

367 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:08:44am

Highrise! :-)

Miguelito! :-)

Sharmuta! :-)

granny! :-)

I was up late watching the thread below. ↓ Came THIS close to sleeping through fruitcup...

368 Render  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:09:28am

*snatch*

*run*

CRAB
CAKE
MAN,
R

369 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:10:22am

re: #365 Rain Patriot

Miguel's insomnia trumps mine yet again. At 5:07 after a long night lurking, I check out. Night, Lizards.

Goodnight!

Sleep well, I'm hoping to get a little sleep myself soon.

370 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:10:25am

RTLM! :-)

gop_patriot! :-)

'Night, Rain Patriot! :-)

371 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:10:38am

re: #365 Rain Patriot

Miguel's insomnia trumps mine yet again. At 5:07 after a long night lurking, I check out. Night, Lizards.

Good night Rain Patriot. Stay safe.

372 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:11:33am

RENDER! :-)

/I seee you!

373 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:13:39am

Good night Rain ;)
Sleep well.

374 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:14:28am

re: #367 littleoldlady

Highrise! :-)

Miguelito! :-)

Sharmuta! :-)

granny! :-)

I was up late watching the thread below. %u2193 Came THIS close to sleeping through fruitcup...

I was just over reading the original article to that thread. Which I have not waded through and likely won't. It is pretty warm here this morning, but it got down to 30 yesterday morning, so I need to play carpenter and get the rest of the windows done, outlets, snakes stuffed for the doors. Then I supposed I have to go outside and put plastic back around the bottom of the two porches (got taken down when a cat got stuck under there) and bag up leaves to make a wind break.

We are winterizing to the 9's and then some here, trying to keep the oil bill somewhere close to within reason. I really wish we had a place to put a wood stove.

375 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:14:35am

If a secret prison, where it has never been proven that any such ’prison’ existed, and one of the secret prison’s purported terrorist prisoners - where, as with the secret prisons, it never been proven that any such individual was taken captive - nor evidence of any 'said' prisoner can be found; who gives a rats-ass about the prison or prisoner and why does a terrorist sympathetic and enabling WaPo keep running this trash? From CIA Jails, Inmates Fade Into Obscurity

More important than all, why are American’s allowing a terrorist sympathetic & enabling business, a business of whose employee’s may have or will cost American’s their very lives, remain in existence?

Here's NPR's transcript of Bush's speech referenced within the article. Where does Bush make mention of any secret prison? For all we know those taken captive may be given a suite at the Waldorf Astoria and treated to the best times of their lives in exchange for valid info., freed and be sent on the merry way. Instead WaPo demonizes the US, the intelligence community along with good, effective military policy and the President during a time of war and yet we're asked over-and-over to examine why the country has an international image in the sheeter? Does anyone think or believe that the image and suspicion created by such as the WaPo or this 'reporter' are somehow going to magically change for the better with the next President; or will, as highly possible, hostilities continue to worsen with more tragic effect?

Remember the Democrat's big campaign stump of 'bringing America together'(or some such) if they succeeded in the 06' elections? What the hell happened there? Subjectively I'd estimate the US is more polarized, divided, with sentiment of Congress, if not at, close to historic lows; yet here we are letting the same destructive elements continue their work of destroying this country, piece by piece. Why?

Mornin folks. Velcom to another wunderbar day in zee zones.

376 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:14:57am
377 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:15:23am

Crabcake man LOL

Where's Cheesesteak Lady? ;)

378 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:18:28am

re: #377 MigueldowninMexico

Crabcake man LOL

Where's Cheesesteak Lady? ;)

En garde!

;-)

379 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:19:17am

re: #378 littleoldlady

re: #377 MigueldowninMexico

Crabcake man LOL

Where's Cheesesteak Lady? ;)

En garde!

;-)

ROFL!

Good for you!

380 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:19:23am

re: #374 galloping granny

The oil bill is already depressing me this year. :-(

381 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:19:50am

Here's an interesting article from Belgium -

[Link: islamineurope.blogspot.com...]

Belgium: Complaint against Muslim who refused male anesthetist

An anesthetist from Bree (Limburg) has lodged a complaint against a Muslim, because he refused aid from a male anesthetist during the emergency cesarean of his wife, according to medical newspaper Artsenkrant.

Doctor Philippe Becx from Bree was on watch at Maas en Kempen hospital on the night of August 23 when he was called for an emergency cesarean for a Muslim woman. The unborn baby had cardiac arrhythmia and would have died without the cesarean.

When the anesthetist came into the operation area the Muslim woman's husband barred him from entering. The man refused to let his wife be handled by a male doctor. The Muslim then forced his way into the operation area and demanded a female anesthetist. That was impossible, as Doctor Becx at the moment was the only anesthetist in the hospital.

After two hours of talking to the man the doctors, nurses and an imam called up, managed to bring the man to allow the male anesthetist to give his wife a injection. He demanded still that his wife's body would be fully bandaged so that only the part of skin for the injection would be uncovered. After that, the anesthesist had to leave the delivery room. With the door ajar, the doctor tries to continue the operation.

The anesthetist has now lodged a complaint at the magistrate in Tongeren for the prevention of a doctor from performing his function. He says he had incurred moral harm because he was prevented from practicing his medical aid duty while he would be responsible for eventural complications. Indeed the Muslim is being blamed for criminal negligence since he had endangered the lives of his wife and child.

The association of anesthetists sides with the complaint and joined in as party to the legal process. According to René Heylen, head of the association, this incident can't be traced back to religion but it's a case of gender discrimination. "It's unacceptable that doctors on the watch would be excluded because of their gender". The association insists on clear rules from the government that will make sure doctors are not prevented from practicing their profession.

382 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:21:30am

re: #381 galloping granny

Yes, become a muslim and you won't have any more problems with them. They are wonderful people, don't you see?

Amazing.

383 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:23:21am

Greetings, Lizard Nation

It was a busy day for the Religion of Head-chopping:
Saudi authorities behead 3 Bangladeshi men
The dead were identified as Thakeer Abdul-Rahman, Tafeel Abdul-Rasheed and Leon Juli. The latter is a very unusual name for a Bangladeshi.

In Pakistan, meanwhile, there was a convincing demonstration of Bush Derangement Syndrome as "militants" publicly beheaded four kidnapped security men in a remote village.

"Let this serves as a warning to all those who spy for the government or help the government. All sons of Bush will meet similar fate,” the resident quoted one of the militants announcing shortly before the execution.
384 sushi  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:23:59am

re: #381 galloping granny

That's the way! More of that, pleeezzze! I hope that SoB will be barrred from going to hospitals for the rest of his life!

385 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:27:06am

Shiplord
Bush seems to be very prolific isn't it?
He has millions and millions of children.

386 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:27:23am

Did Charles "deal with" Kookoo for KokoPuffs from yesterday?

I think I'm catching a cold, and I'm in no mood for logical discussion with the illogical.

387 BruxellesBlog  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:27:24am
When the anesthetist came into the operation area the Muslim woman's husband barred him from entering. The man refused to let his wife be handled by a male doctor. The Muslim then forced his way into the operation area and demanded a female anesthetist.

At which point the local socialist party magistrate arrived and placed the Muslim man on the next election ballot...

388 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:28:38am

re: #380 littleoldlady

re: #374 galloping granny

The oil bill is already depressing me this year. :-(

I hear you there. Though oddly enough, despite the fact that the price of oil has gone over the moon, we have not seen much at all in the way of price hikes for gas. Still running around $2.75 a gallon for regular. But then maybe that is because last winter the oil companies/gas stations made a bundle - so much so the government threatened them with new laws and such. Around here the gas stations were having a price war to see how much they could up the price in a single day. We had individual gas stations changing the price 4 and 5 times in a single day.

Last year we bought the house too late in the year to get a contract and were really glad we didn't. Most of the oil companies around here did not offer a clause where you paid less than the contract price if the cash price was less than the contract price. Oil stayed pretty much under the contract price all winter and we saved a bundle. I'm not sure how this year is going to work out, but we did decide to go with the cash price instead of the contract price.

389 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:29:18am
390 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:33:32am

Delayed Spending Bills Prompt Finger-Pointing

President Bush criticized congressional Democrats yesterday for failing to send him a raft of spending bills, declaring that they should "stop wasting time and get essential work done on behalf of the American people.

Democrats take heed and step-up to the task, for the American people, of course: Democrats Plan a Shorter Workweek

Nupe...nuttin wrong here.

391 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:35:25am

re: #388 galloping granny

I've noticed the same thing. Gas stations "trying" to behave. Oil heating companies don't seem to have the same constraints.

Late last spring we insulated the attic. I'm hoping it makes a difference with our oil usage this winter.

392 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:36:42am

And here is something interesting from Memri -

Palestinian Researcher: Building Giant Mosques in Europe Is a Provocation that Harms the Muslims

In an article, Palestinian researcher Dr. Khaled Al-Hroub criticized the Muslims in Europe for not condemning terrorist attacks and thereby harming the image of the Muslims. He also argued against building giant mosques in Europe, saying that this provokes the host societies and works to the Muslims' disadvantage.

The following are the excerpts from the article: [1]

The Silence of Europe's Muslims Following Terrorist Attacks Has Hurt Their Image

"There has been an ongoing debate in Britain regarding the plans of some Muslims, namely the Tabligh Group, to build a mosque in East London that would be the biggest in Britain, if not in Europe. Reports on the mosque plans indicate that it will hold 40,000 people, with an option for an extension that will increase its capacity to 70,000... Why are the Muslims in Europe insisting on building mosques of such extravagant size? And why is it that the building of such mosques arouses public and political protest in the societies that host the Muslims?

Continue Reading - [Link: memri.org...]

393 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:42:16am

Re: My #383

How's this for a Freudian slip?

In posting the same story, a Freeper rendered the headline as "Militants behead law-enforcement men in public in Pakisatan" (emphasis added).

394 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:44:04am
395 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:45:06am
396 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:45:17am

re: #383 Shiplord Kirel

“All sons of Bush will meet similar fate”

Obviously a regular at DU and MoveOn.org.

Username: Abu Kukri
Location: Mengara Pakistan
Hobbies: Reading, growing pomegranates, racing camels, and beheading prisoners.
Marital status: 4 (wives, that is, counting the one who is scheduled to be stoned to death next week for boffing my cousin Achmed).

397 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:46:31am

re: #391 littleoldlady

re: #388 galloping granny

I've noticed the same thing. Gas stations "trying" to behave. Oil heating companies don't seem to have the same constraints.

Late last spring we insulated the attic. I'm hoping it makes a difference with our oil usage this winter.

That will make some difference, but you can do some really simple things really inexpensively that make a huge difference.

*Weatherstrip all of your storm windows with either foam or caulk type weatherstripping.

*Cover all of the windows with plastic on the inside to stop leaks.

*Put new/extra weatherstripping around the doors.

*Make yourself some "snakes." You can buy them for about $10 each, but for the price of one you can make a dozen. Fabric about 6.5 inches x width of the fabric (you can trim this for shorter snakes). Sew it into a tube and then stuff with either clean sand or fine cat litter. Sew up to close, then place these at the bottom of doors, across the bottom edge of windows you don't want to plastic over, etc. You can press them right into any gap - works really well.

*Add foam insulation to pipes, especially pipes in the basement or (as we have them) under the porch. This stuff is so easy to apply a child can do it. Comes in a hose-like piece about a yard long, split down the side. All you do is cut it the right length and slip it over the pipe. Add tape if you want but you don't have to.

*Use trash bags stuffed full of fall leaves to create a wind barrier over the little windows that go into the basement.

*Add foam insulators to all of the outlets, especially the outlets on exterior walls.

398 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:48:17am

re: #396 Shiplord Kirel

re: #383 Shiplord Kirel

“All sons of Bush will meet similar fate”

Obviously a regular at DU and MoveOn.org.

Username: Abu Kukri
Location: Mengara Pakistan
Hobbies: Reading, growing pomegranates, racing camels, and beheading prisoners.
Marital status: 4 (wives, that is, counting the one who is scheduled to be stoned to death next week for boffing my cousin Achmed).

Is this for real, or you made it up?

399 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:48:50am

re: #393 Shiplord Kirel

Re: My #383

How's this for a Freudian slip?

In posting the same story, a Freeper rendered the headline as "Militants behead law-enforcement men in public in Pakisatan" (emphasis added).

ROFLMAO!

400 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:50:10am

plooomie! :-)

I always seem to have just missed you here.

Like sheeps in the night.
© Archie Bunker

401 Carridine  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:53:17am
re: #340 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Tom Yam Gong (Spicy Lemon Grass Soup with Shrimp)

You got most of it right, Jewels, but its Tom Yam GOONG. Goong is Thai for shrimp.

402 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:53:38am
403 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:54:31am
404 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:55:16am

re: #397 galloping granny

GAH! Sounds like a recipe for radon poisoning!

Here's MY plan...

Close off the back bedrooms. Turn down the thermostat a few notches. Warm socks and sweaters. Pray for a mild winter!

:-)

405 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:56:16am

Now HERE is a story -

Netherlands: High demand for "virgin pill"

Like a virgin.

Demand for the vaginal suppository which imitates bleeding on the wedding night as gone up enormously, says gynecologist Ineke Van Seumeren (63). She doesn't know by how much, but it began two weeks after she spoke about the so called "virgin pill" in newsletter of her employer, University Medical Center (UMC) Utrecht newsletter.

The requests come from hospitals, colleges and sexual help centers, though the pill, also developed by her, exists since 2003. Immigrant women exclusively, use it to start their marriage as a "virgin" even though they aren't. Van Seumeren is still surprised the most by the media attention. "it's a hype. I think it comes by the attention for Islamic customs."

The vaginal suppository works quite simply. the pill contains red gelatin that once inserted becomes fluid after half an hour by the body's temperature.

Better time it just right, LOL.

Read it all - [Link: islamineurope.blogspot.com...]

406 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:57:30am

re: #402 ploome hineni

re: #400 littleoldlady

can't sleep tonight

did you hear, I tore my left meniscus..so I am very uncomfortable..and knee hurts when I turn

so I am up

:(

OY! Are you getting surgery to fix it? One of talloldman's cousins just had it. Quick recovery; very little pain. (And he's NOT in good shape.)

Can I give you a hug?

407 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:58:21am
408 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 2:59:19am
409 Carridine  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:00:12am

re: #381 galloping granny

Really, Granny, WHAT NEXT?

Allowing some Muslim father to pick from a menu of doctors, nurses, orderlies, cooks, floor-moppers, garbage handlers and secretarial staff as to JUST WHO may look at his precious wife/daughter/son/self?

Never seen YOU nekkid, Ahmad. You special somehow?

/insane! But good to see the rest of the hospital anaesthetists are clearly standing WITH him against the creeping mindlessness being force-fed so many in the name of Islam today!

410 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:01:01am

re: #404 littleoldlady

re: #397 galloping granny

GAH! Sounds like a recipe for radon poisoning!

Here's MY plan...

Close off the back bedrooms. Turn down the thermostat a few notches. Warm socks and sweaters. Pray for a mild winter!

:-)

We don't live in new construction. Radon is not a problem. Drafts are a problem. Especially when you live in an antique. We've already turned the thermostat down to 60, which means - since it is located pretty much in the center of the house - that the areas where we spend most of our time are more towards the 55 range. Socks, sweaters, a couple of very fuel efficient space heaters for the outlying areas.

411 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:01:04am

re: #408 ploome hineni

re: #406 littleoldlady

thanks:)

no surgery right now...too much to do

I don;t know if I want surgery..won;t it get better?

I'm no doctor but my guess is no, you have to get it fixed.

412 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:01:55am

re: #407 ploome hineni

re: #405 galloping granny

and then the pill goes, "ow ow ow "?

:) Better than being stoned I suppose.

413 Trumanite  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:03:10am

Well, this dovetails neatly into the TradNazi, NeoNazi, IslamoNazi, EuroNazi, Who'smoreofaNazi? skirmishing,

Dutch lawmakers who visited the Guantanamo Bay military prison this week said they were offended by a testy exchange in Washington with a senior congressional Democrat.
The lawmakers said that Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told them that "Europe was not as outraged by Auschwitz as by Guantanamo Bay."

Lantos, a Holocaust survivor, was responding to arguments that the United States should shut down the prison, located on a U.S. naval base in Cuba

414 nonic  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:03:40am

Good morning, people.

We had homemade carrot cake last night, and there's lots left over, so I brought it for the buffet table this morning. Enjoy.

Recipe here for Indian-influenced carrot cake with bananas and cardamom.

Is Goddess here? I have something I want to tell her.

415 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:03:53am

re: #409 Carridine

re: #381 galloping granny

Really, Granny, WHAT NEXT?

Allowing some Muslim father to pick from a menu of doctors, nurses, orderlies, cooks, floor-moppers, garbage handlers and secretarial staff as to JUST WHO may look at his precious wife/daughter/son/self?

Never seen YOU nekkid, Ahmad. You special somehow?

/insane! But good to see the rest of the hospital anaesthetists are clearly standing WITH him against the creeping mindlessness being force-fed so many in the name of Islam today!

Especially in an emergency of that nature. He is quite lucky that both his wife and his child did not die.

416 deesine  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:04:38am

In case some of haven't heard (or I missed it on another thread), a fund has been set up to help Ayaan Hirsi Ali with her security detail costs.

417 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:05:21am
418 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:05:51am

re: #414 nonic

Good morning, people.

We had homemade carrot cake last night, and there's lots left over, so I brought it for the buffet table this morning. Enjoy.

Recipe here for Indian-influenced carrot cake with bananas and cardamom.

Is Goddess here? I have something I want to tell her.

Yum. And I have bananas, carrots and cardamom. Goddess is not here yet.

Speaking of Indian influenced, years ago I had a friend from India who used to bake wonderful little butter cookies with cardamom, topped with chopped pistachios. Anybody know how to make such a thing?

419 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:07:00am

re: #398 MigueldowninMexico

re: #396 Shiplord Kirel


re: #383 Shiplord Kirel

“All sons of Bush will meet similar fate”

Obviously a regular at DU and MoveOn.org.

Username: Abu Kukri
Location: Mengara Pakistan
Hobbies: Reading, growing pomegranates, racing camels, and beheading prisoners.
Marital status: 4 (wives, that is, counting the one who is scheduled to be stoned to death next week for boffing my cousin Achmed).


Is this for real, or you made it up?

I made it up this time. One may well wonder though.

420 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:08:08am

CARROT CAKE! OOPS!

nonic! :-)

CARROT CAKE! My favorite! Thanks!

421 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:08:19am
422 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:09:29am

re: #413 Trumanite

The lawmakers said that Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told them that "Europe was not as outraged by Auschwitz as by Guantanamo Bay."

Well, SOMEBODY had to say it. (No surprise it was Lantos.)

423 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:09:53am

re: #419 Shiplord Kirel

LOL
You're right, they are so over the edge that one expects practically anything from them. I was sort of believing it was true.

OTOH they are not known for their sense of humor, because at first I thought it was a muslim jesting. I should have remembered that lol

424 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:10:02am
425 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:11:31am

re: #413 Trumanite

Well, this dovetails neatly into the TradNazi, NeoNazi, IslamoNazi, EuroNazi, Who'smoreofaNazi? skirmishing,

Dutch lawmakers who visited the Guantanamo Bay military prison this week said they were offended by a testy exchange in Washington with a senior congressional Democrat.
The lawmakers said that Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told them that "Europe was not as outraged by Auschwitz as by Guantanamo Bay."

Lantos, a Holocaust survivor, was responding to arguments that the United States should shut down the prison, located on a U.S. naval base in Cuba

Absolute truth. The Europeans in general were nowhere near as outraged by Auschwitz as they are by Guantanamo. Not even remotely.

426 haakondahl  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:12:04am

re: #421 ploome hineni

re: #413 Trumanite

te EuroPeons and others, get very offended when their feinted outrage towards the Holocaust is exposed

True.

I suspect that some of the most stalwart anti-Nazi Europeans were the Germans who were forced at gunpoint by the U.S. to see what the Nazis had done, to clean up after their mess, after having "averted their gaze" for so long.

Something which was never done in Japan, by the way. Which explains a lot.

427 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:12:54am

re: #424 ploome hineni

re: #418 galloping granny

here

Thanks. You know, I never even thought to look there, LOL. Even though I have successfully managed to replace every single one of my lost recipes after misplacing my handwritten cookbook a few years back.

428 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:13:09am

Hello ploomie!
I'm of the opinion that you should see a doctor. An orthopedist or whichever specialty deals with your problem.

One or two opinions, just in case...

May it be light to you.

429 ibmkeyboard  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:13:17am

re: #409 Carridine

A bomb exploded next to two busy roadside restaurants in Thailand's restive south on Saturday, killing a woman and wounding 14 other people, police said.

The bomb, triggered by a mobile phone, was placed near a cooking gas canister between a restaurant and coffee shop in Narathiwat province's Rangae district.

The attack came after a brief lull in recent months in violence afflicting Thailand's southernmost provinces, the scene of a Muslim separatist insurgency.
Carridine don't worry, when they take over Bangkok it will be peaceful..

430 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:15:09am

re: #417 ploome hineni

Oh gawd ploome that's absolutely terrifying.

...from dumb to slobbering, indecipherable imbecile.

431 nonic  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:15:17am

re: #381 galloping granny

Belgium: Complaint against Muslim who refused male anesthetist

I LOVE the way the issues are framed in that story -- gender bias, responsibility for outcome, interference, criminal endangerment. I hope that kind of response catches on and spreads. It's just what is needed to get past the PC BS.

432 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:17:32am

re: #402 ploome hineni

re: #400 littleoldlady

can't sleep tonight

did you hear, I tore my left meniscus..so I am very uncomfortable..and knee hurts when I turn

so I am up

:(

ploome, a sprain will sometimes heal, but if this is a true tear then you usually need surgery. You should see an orthopedist ASAP. Walk little, leg up with support under your knee until then.

433 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:18:13am
434 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:19:02am

re: #431 nonic

re: #381 galloping granny

Belgium: Complaint against Muslim who refused male anesthetist

I LOVE the way the issues are framed in that story -- gender bias, responsibility for outcome, interference, criminal endangerment. I hope that kind of response catches on and spreads. It's just what is needed to get past the PC BS.

I agree. But then I would also hope that muslim immigrants to the West would become more aware that this is not acceptable here.

435 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:20:11am
436 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:21:37am

re: #435 ploome hineni

re: #428 MigueldowninMexico

thanks..I have seen a doctor..my physician sent me to an O.D., first time I went to one

I don;t know whta to do...will get another opinion I think

Did either of them do any tests, xrays, that sort of thing?

437 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:24:14am
438 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:24:23am

re: #435 ploome hineni

re: #428 MigueldowninMexico

thanks..I have seen a doctor..my physician sent me to an O.D., first time I went to one

I don;t know whta to do...will get another opinion I think

Yes, a second opinion is the way to go now, I'd say.

439 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:24:46am
440 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:24:49am

ploome,

You've had an MRI, yes?

441 Carridine  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:24:57am

re: #429 ibmkeyboard

Riiight! "Peaceful... "

/maybe when the shooting stops... Thais are getting FED UP with this gurf, Keyboard!

442 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:26:00am
443 nonic  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:26:25am

re: #434 galloping granny

I agree. But then I would also hope that muslim immigrants to the West would become more aware that this is not acceptable here.

Exactly. And that's HOW they will become aware, when the "victim" crap doesn't work. And in fact, gets THEM in trouble.

444 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:26:48am

re: #414 nonic

Good morning, people.

We had homemade carrot cake last night, and there's lots left over, so I brought it for the buffet table this morning. Enjoy.

Recipe here for Indian-influenced carrot cake with bananas and cardamom.

Is Goddess here? I have something I want to tell her.

Wow nonic - that recipe site is stupendous! We love Indian food. What a treasure trove.

445 Carridine  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:26:53am

re: #431 nonic

I LOVE the way the issues are framed in that story -- gender bias, responsibility for outcome, interference, criminal endangerment. I hope that kind of response catches on and spreads. It's just what is needed to get past the PC BS.

Eggs Ackley! WELL STATED, Nonic!

446 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:27:00am
447 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:27:43am

re: #443 nonic

re: #434 galloping granny

I agree. But then I would also hope that muslim immigrants to the West would become more aware that this is not acceptable here.

Exactly. And that's HOW they will become aware, when the "victim" crap doesn't work. And in fact, gets THEM in trouble.

Hello nonic! :)
It seems to be starting to happen ;)

448 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:29:37am

re: #439 ploome hineni

re: #436 galloping granny

MRI, bone scan and xray

got it all

Then I would go with whatever you were told by the OD. Did he give you some kind of a knee brace?

449 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:31:37am
450 nonic  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:32:02am

re: #446 ploome hineni

here is a shoka

Human race will 'split into two different species'

already happened

I haven't clicked on that link yet, but here's a "forward" that someone sent me last night that might be applicable...

Subject: Liberal/Conservative history

The division of the human family into two distinct political groups began some 12,000 years ago. Humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains in the summer, and would go to the beach in the winter, living on fish and lobster.

The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives.

When beer was discovered it required grain - that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass, the bottle nor aluminum can had yet been invented, so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be created, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed. Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals. It provided something to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the "Conservative Movement". Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by just showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's. They did the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the "Liberal Movement".

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as 'girlymen'. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the trade union, the invention of group therapy and grouphugs.

One other achievement was the concept of democratic voting to decide how to apportion the meat and beer that conservatives provided. Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting revolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men.

Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood, and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented baseball's designated hitter rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat. Conservatives drink beer and whiskey while eating rare red meat and potatoes. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives,soldiers, athletes, and generally anyone who works productively outside government.

Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living. Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. Liberals crept in after the Wild West was tame, and created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history.

451 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:33:03am
452 nonic  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:34:09am

re: #447 MigueldowninMexico

Miguel, baby, I saw something to make YOU happy recently. Let me see if I can find it. (I should get organized like Babba is -- how DOES she do it?!)

453 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:36:55am

re: #452 nonic

re: #447 MigueldowninMexico

Miguel, baby, I saw something to make YOU happy recently. Let me see if I can find it. (I should get organized like Babba is -- how DOES she do it?!)

Why, thanks a lot. :)

454 Carridine  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:37:52am

re: #449 ploome hineni

You might consider, in light of your attending physician's non-prescription of ANY form of physical therapy and preventative measures, CHANGING DOCTORS, asap, Ploome!

That one's lacking... common sense, compassion or maybe passed Patient Management with a D+

455 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:38:55am

re: #454 Carridine

re: #449 ploome hineni

You might consider, in light of your attending physician's non-prescription of ANY form of physical therapy and preventative measures, CHANGING DOCTORS, asap, Ploome!

That one's lacking... common sense, compassion or maybe passed Patient Management with a D+

Seconded.

456 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:41:34am

re: #449 ploome hineni

re: #448 galloping granny

no..he gave me nothing..didn;t suggest cold compress, leg elevation, nothing

I called a few days later for some pain pills

I got some crutches which I can;t use well

You might call your regular doctor then and explain to him that you are having some pain & that your knee is not stable. To be perfectly honest about it, I have found over the years (chronic pain from an old very severe and irreparable injury) that plain old aspirin (not tylenol - the old fashioned kind) does as much for me as virtually any pain reliever available, most of which seem to do nothing for the pain, just make you too stoned to care.

It's been several days, so you want heat now rather than ice. You don't necessarily have to keep your foot in the air, but if you do have your leg up (not a bad idea because it lessens swelling) make sure you stick a pillow or something under your knee to support it.

You might also ask your doc about one of those elastic knee braces that atheletes often wear. That might do more for you than a crutch.

457 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:41:36am
458 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:43:43am
459 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:44:45am
460 nonic  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:47:31am

re: #452 nonic

re: #447 MigueldowninMexico

Miguel, baby, I saw something to make YOU happy recently. Let me see if I can find it. (I should get organized like Babba is -- how DOES she do it?!)

Oh, crumb buns, I can't find it. (Hmm. Maybe crumb buns tomorrow.)

Anyway, it was about rising conversions worldwide to Christianity/Catholicism and signs of increased Catholic orthodoxy among Western youth.

Well, in its place, here's a cheerful story...

Number of Russian Muslims converting to Christianity in the millions

Rome, Nov 7, 2005 / 12:00 am (CNA).- According to the director of the Inter-religious Council in Russia, Roman Silantyev, in the last fifteen years two million Russian-born Muslims have converted to Christianity, while only 2,500 Russians have converted to Islam.

In an interview published by the magazine Itogi, Silantyev said, “This phenomenon of Christianization is due not so much to the positive results of a successful missionary campaign as to the influence of Russian culture and its Christian roots.”

The Kath.net news agency indicated that the converts are mainly individuals who were born into a Muslim family but did not necessary practice the faith. “On the other hand, those who really follow Muslim values and regularly attend a mosque rarely abandon their religion,” Silantyev noted.

Terrorism is another reason for the increase in conversions, he added. “After each terrorist attack, thousands and even hundreds of thousands become Christians,” resulting in an almost 50% drop in the Muslim population in certain regions.

461 Carridine  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:48:33am

re: #457 ploome hineni

Ma'am, you're welcome. I passed my National Boards, State Boards and was admitted to private practice in 1978, working until my son was kidnapped several years later.

That's why I'm no longer working as a doctor. But there's a LOT of that I'll never forget, so yes, find a new person to work with you toward YOUR health.

462 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:51:16am

re: #454 Carridine

re: #449 ploome hineni

You might consider, in light of your attending physician's non-prescription of ANY form of physical therapy and preventative measures, CHANGING DOCTORS, asap, Ploome!

That one's lacking... common sense, compassion or maybe passed Patient Management with a D+

This has become all too common in the US these days Carridine. You would be appalled and flabbergasted at what they do not teach in medical school these days.

463 nonic  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:53:10am

Miguel

I apologize if I've given you this link before (I have a lousy memory), but it's really good, so here it is... Catholic News Agency.

464 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:53:22am

re: #460 nonic

That was a very encouraging article nonic. thanks!
About the other one, I hope you find it, but I've read something about that phenomenon happening.
I would like to get more information, of course.
Thanks again ;)

465 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:56:45am

re: #463 nonic

Miguel

I apologize if I've given you this link before (I have a lousy memory), but it's really good, so here it is... Catholic News Agency.

Nonic that's my starting page lol
Although I have the Spanish version of it [Link: www.aciprensa.com...]
Thanks :)

466 bh684  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:59:45am

it is off topic i know but it is now the dead thread, nary a peep about latest Clinton fraud allegations on CNN airport

467 nonic  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:00:09am

Religious leaders denounce religious violence as "blasphemous"

Naples, Oct 25, 2007 / 11:30 am (CNA).- A joint declaration from the leaders of various world religions has soundly condemned the use of violence in the service of religion, Agence France-Presse reports.

Some 300 Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist and Hindu leaders and political figures gathered at an inter-religious summit in Naples. On Tuesday they decried violence in a joint declaration. "We can say with more emphasis than before that whoever uses God's name to hate others, to commit violent acts, to make war, blasphemes the name of God." Violence "strikes innocents and disfigures humanity," they said, adding "violence is always a defeat for all of us."

The three-day summit, titled "A World Without Violence: Faiths and Cultures in Dialogue," was organized by the Rome-based lay Catholic community of Saint Egido. It is an annual event.


Orthodox Patriarch of Constantinople Bartholomew I, the Ashkenazi great rabbi of Israel Yona Metzger, imam Ibrahim Ezzedin of the United Arab Emirates, Anglican Archbishop Rowan Williams and the head of the Ecumenical Council of Churches Samuel Kobia attended, as well as several Catholic cardinals.

The joint statement quoted Pope Benedict XVI's Sunday address to the meeting: "Never, evoking the name of God, can one justify evil and violence." In his address the Pope had also urged the attendees to "promote reconciliation among peoples ... with respect for the differences among various religions."

Near the close of the summit, the delegates prayed separately and then joined a "peace procession" led by Italian President Giorgio Napolitano.

May God bless Pope Benedict XVI and strengthen him as the moral leader that all men and women of all religions need so much right now.

468 nonic  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:01:22am

re #467 nonic

All of that was a quote from the article, except just the last paragraph which was mine. Sorry.

469 tedzilla99  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:01:46am

Dave Grohl is the king of rock and roll - drummer for Nirvana, guitar slingin front man for Foo Fighters - no contest!

And I'm late for my best wishes for your mom, Charles, but I wish you and your family the best and I'm sure the millions of lizardoid prayers will work wonders once they are transmitted through your secret lair under the
+++carrier lost+++

470 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:03:18am

Charles' mom?

471 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:03:27am

re: #467 nonic

Religious leaders denounce religious violence as "blasphemous"

Naples, Oct 25, 2007 / 11:30 am (CNA).- A joint declaration from the leaders of various world religions has soundly condemned the use of violence in the service of religion, Agence France-Presse reports.

Some 300 Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist and Hindu leaders and political figures gathered at an inter-religious summit in Naples. On Tuesday they decried violence in a joint declaration. "We can say with more emphasis than before that whoever uses God's name to hate others, to commit violent acts, to make war, blasphemes the name of God." Violence "strikes innocents and disfigures humanity," they said, adding "violence is always a defeat for all of us."

The three-day summit, titled "A World Without Violence: Faiths and Cultures in Dialogue," was organized by the Rome-based lay Catholic community of Saint Egido. It is an annual event.



Orthodox Patriarch of Constantinople Bartholomew I, the Ashkenazi great rabbi of Israel Yona Metzger, imam Ibrahim Ezzedin of the United Arab Emirates, Anglican Archbishop Rowan Williams and the head of the Ecumenical Council of Churches Samuel Kobia attended, as well as several Catholic cardinals.

The joint statement quoted Pope Benedict XVI's Sunday address to the meeting: "Never, evoking the name of God, can one justify evil and violence." In his address the Pope had also urged the attendees to "promote reconciliation among peoples ... with respect for the differences among various religions."

Near the close of the summit, the delegates prayed separately and then joined a "peace procession" led by Italian President Giorgio Napolitano.

May God bless Pope Benedict XVI and strengthen him as the moral leader that all men and women of all religions need so much right now.

Yes I could notice the ending was yours.
Beautiful thoughts. :)

472 Trumanite  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:05:14am

#433 ploome hineni 10/27/07 3:18:13 am
#426 haakondahl
#425 galloping granny 10/27/07 3:11:31 am
#422 littleoldlady 10/27/07 3:09:29 am
421 ploome hineni 10/27/07 3:08:19 am

re: #413 Trumanite

te EuroPeons and others, get very offended when their feinted outrage towards the Holocaust is exposed

Yes, it must be very "offensive" to Dutch Islamo-symps to have their noses rubbed in their Nazi collaborationist history (Google dutch collaboration nazis).

Especially when the nose-rubbing is done by one of the most liberal, reflexively anti-Bush Dems in U.S. politics.

473 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:05:44am

re: #470 littleoldlady

Charles' mom?

Yes, Charles told us a few hours ago that his mom has cancer :(
He asked those so inclined to pray for her health.
It seems she underwent surgery recently and now she's under a chemiotherapy treatment.

474 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:06:57am

re: #473 MigueldowninMexico

Oh my! :-(

475 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:07:58am

re: #474 littleoldlady

re: #473 MigueldowninMexico

Oh my! :-(

Yes. Lots of lizards offered their prayers and good thoughts.

:(

476 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:08:46am

re: #466 bh684

it is off topic i know but it is now the dead thread, nary a peep about latest Clinton fraud allegations on CNN airport

That is no surprise at all. I'm not sure how much influence CNN even has in the US anymore. As a matter of fact, the last time that I went to the CNN website they had virtually no US news on the main page. Other news outlets are giving it a little play though, enough to make me think that Hillary is going to find herself thrown under the bus down the road a bit.

477 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:11:33am

re: #475 MigueldowninMexico

re: #474 littleoldlady

re: #473 MigueldowninMexico

Oh my! :-(

Yes. Lots of lizards offered their prayers and good thoughts.

:(

I'm sure more will too as they become aware.

478 tedzilla99  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:11:46am

re: #418 galloping granny

re: #414 nonic

Good morning, people.

We had homemade carrot cake last night, and there's lots left over, so I brought it for the buffet table this morning. Enjoy.

Recipe here for Indian-influenced carrot cake with bananas and cardamom.

Is Goddess here? I have something I want to tell her.

Yum. And I have bananas, carrots and cardamom. Goddess is not here yet.

Speaking of Indian influenced, years ago I had a friend from India who used to bake wonderful little butter cookies with cardamom, topped with chopped pistachios. Anybody know how to make such a thing?

I once had cardamom flavored homemade ice cream which had chopped up frosted almonds - it was the BEST ice cream I've ever tasted, and believe me, I can back that up. haha

479 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:13:44am

re: #477 galloping granny

re: #475 MigueldowninMexico

re: #474 littleoldlady

re: #473 MigueldowninMexico

Oh my! :-(

Yes. Lots of lizards offered their prayers and good thoughts.

:(

I'm sure more will too as they become aware.

Yes, for sure!

480 nonic  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:13:54am

re: #473 MigueldowninMexico

Thank you, Miguel.

And with that, I think I will sign off, as I have over-nighters here and so additional breakfast stuff to do. If Goddess shows up, somebody call me. (Oh, wait, that won't work will it?)

Anyway...

ploome: hope you see another doctor and get better care - hope you feel better

littleoldlady: hiya, hon, I got my college kid here and what did he bring? Go on, you know. (Laundry.) LOL

481 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:16:14am

re: #480 nonic

Good night nonic. God bless!
Congratulations for having your kid there ;)
Happy dreams.

482 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:16:38am

re: #480 nonic

I really didn't need the hint. ;-) It's a given...

483 MigueldowninMexico  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:19:51am

So long, farewell, aufwiedersehen, good bye;
adieu, adieu, to yeh and yeh and yeh...

I most bid you all good bye.
God bless all mighty lizards ;)

484 chief long name  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:26:08am

re: #480 nonic
My late Mother, God rest her soul, would have strangled me for bringing home laundry. (doing my last load now as I pack to go back home)

Here's to Charles's Mother, May the Lord bless her and keep her in His loving embrace.

485 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:27:34am

'Night Miguel! :-)

486 littleoldlady  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:29:52am
487 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:30:38am

Rice talks with Carter about how best to end Israel.

Rice confers with Carter, Bill Clinton ahead of Annapolis
State Department reports that Rice discussed previous peace talks with Egypt, Palestinians; Rice also met with former secretaries of state

. [Link: www.jpost.com...]

488 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:32:24am

Hope...

Last night I ended Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week on an unexpectedly high note at Dartmouth. Even the hostile questions had less of an edge to them than they had at Brown, DePaul, and the University of Rhode Island, and the overwhelming majority of questioners were sympathetic to the perspective I was representing.

I think the people in the audience who had come planning to ask angry questions were caught flat-footed by the stark difference between the Spencer they read about in their propaganda and the Spencer of real life. Which is an object lesson in why the Leftists and jihad sympathizers who have so thoroughly propagandized American campuses at this point will ultimately fail. Those they have propagandized will begin to experience cognitive dissonance, noticing the increasing disparity between the lies they've been fed and the realities of the world -- and then the nasty, foolish little empire will begin to crumble.


[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

489 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:33:45am

Truth...

This is perfectly consonant with the Islamic worldview. The earth belongs to Allah and His Messenger Muhammad -- which means, in human terms, those who are the Believers in Allah and that Messenger. Everyone else must either convert, be killed, or in some cases be permitted to live, but only in a condition of permanent humiliation, degradation, and physical insecurity, as "dhimmis."

Nothing else has value. Nothing else is of interest. And since everyone since time began -- a nice bit of backdating -- is in the Muslim view born a Muslim, but for one reason or another falls away (talk about a bad environment!) -- every claim by those of other faiths are meaningless


[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

490 gettinby  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:37:50am

VERY sorry to hear about Charles' mother.

Prayers for her and her family and friends.

491 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:39:25am

Peace at all costs...to hell with Israel...I posted long ago this would happen...

What did the philosopher, George Santayana say: “”Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” Even further back the Chinese sage, Huang-Po said: “The foolish reject what they see, not what they think; The wise reject what they think, Not what they see.”

Secretary Rice is consulting living history about making peace in the Middle East in preparation for her attempt to make history in Annapolis in November. problem is she’s not consulting the right peace makers and historical precedents. So she’s consulting former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton on how the ‘cold peace’ between Egypt and Israel was achieved and the failed 2000 Camp David and desperate 2001 Taba talks between former Israeli PM Barak and the late unlamented mass murderer Yassir Arafat. Then she’s allegedly consulting the venerable Henry “Dr. Strangelove” Kissinger who engaged in shuttle diplomacy to achieve fruitless disengagement agreements with Syria and Egypt. Carter is the least trustworthy as he is a fawning admirer of the Palestinians and their terrorist actions, while derogating Israel, America’s ally as an oppressor engaged in ‘apartheid”. Clinton’s experience should be an object lesson for Secretary Rice. He failed to achieve a peace agreement, as have all who have tried in the recent past, because the Palestinians and their allies really don’t want any peace, save peace of the grave for the Jewish State of Israel. Americans have effectively told that to Secretary Rice in a recent Rasmussen Poll that indicated that 75% of respondents viewed Middle East peacemaking as folly, while over 63 percent supported Israel as the only ally of America in the region.
Apparently Secretary Rice isn’t reading the solid opinion of the people who she took an oath of office to serve, us and the Constitution

[Link: blog.americancongressfortruth.com...]

492 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:40:39am

re: #490 gettinby

VERY sorry to hear about Charles' mother.

Prayers for her and her family and friends.

What's going on?

493 akak  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:42:34am

Take care of your Mom Charles.
Best wishes!

494 gettinby  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:43:20am

re: #492 storagemanager

re: #490 gettinby


VERY sorry to hear about Charles' mother.

Prayers for her and her family and friends.


What's going on?

Upthread a little bit. Charles' mother is battling cancer. :(

495 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:44:38am
A BAHRAINI who had sex with his 13-year-old sister-in-law more than 20 times over a year, after seducing her with pornographic films, has been jailed for three years.

Two other Bahrainis, aged 15 and 20, were also jailed for three years for sexual offences involving the girl and her 17-year-old friend.

The 26-year-old was convicted of repeatedly sexually abusing the 13-year-old at his home.

The younger two were accused of having sex with the girl, in a tent at the Sakhir camping area, in December last year.

The 20-year-old was also accused of sexually molesting the 17-year-old in the same tent, on the same day.

The 20-year-old denied having sex with either of the girls.

The 15-year-old denied threatening the 13-year-old, saying he partially had sex with her.

The 26-year-old denied sexually abusing his sister-in-law.

"I simply used to touch her body," he said earlier

[Link: www.gulf-daily-news.com...]

496 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:45:48am

Sending out sincere prayers to Charles and his family. My best friend's father had a similar diagnosis about 10 years ago. His Dr. told him to get this affairs in order.

10 Years (or so) later, he's cancer free and the Dr.'s can't really explain it.

I believe in miracles. They happen every single day.

497 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:46:02am

I am so sorry Charles...you have our prayers.

498 gettinby  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:48:50am

Even the Dalai Lama doesn't know what to do about Iraq.

Even the Dalai Lama has no answers about Iraq.

When asked during a talk on the Purdue University campus Friday how to best end the war and bring peace to the region, he said: "The best answer for that, I don't know."

The near-capacity crowd at the Elliott Hall of Music applauded his honesty, a response that was common during his 80-minute talk titled "Cultivating Happiness."

/Now what?

499 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:53:11am
ER Doctor Charged With Drugging, Raping Patient

[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

500 gettinby  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:57:14am

I've always wondered why the MAJORITY of people in the ENTIRE world don't come together, as one, to focus on finding cures for the various cancers that kill so many.

It is a matter that ALL can agree needs to be resolved.

501 Owl  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 4:57:41am

Charles,
I'm so sorry to hear about your mom. I'll be praying for her daily, and for you - that both of you get through this trying time easily. We're all hoping the best for her.

502 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:01:19am

re: #488 storagemanager

Hope...

Last night I ended Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week on an unexpectedly high note at Dartmouth. Even the hostile questions had less of an edge to them than they had at Brown, DePaul, and the University of Rhode Island, and the overwhelming majority of questioners were sympathetic to the perspective I was representing. I think the people in the audience who had come planning to ask angry questions were caught flat-footed by the stark difference between the Spencer they read about in their propaganda and the Spencer of real life. Which is an object lesson in why the Leftists and jihad sympathizers who have so thoroughly propagandized American campuses at this point will ultimately fail. Those they have propagandized will begin to experience cognitive dissonance, noticing the increasing disparity between the lies they've been fed and the realities of the world -- and then the nasty, foolish little empire will begin to crumble.


[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

Oh I wish I had known that Spencer was going to be just up the road! I would have loved to have seen him.

503 Owl  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:07:26am

OT - GA vs. FLA today.

my poor dawgs...:( ...we are probably going to be spanked...

504 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:10:14am

Owl:

Good luck. Contain Tebow, the key to the game.

BuckeyeAbroad, you around?

Got a great game in Happy Valley tonight. My beloved Buckeye's are locking up with Penn State in their house. Always a great defensive, low scoring affair.
Go Bucks!

OH...!

505 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:17:27am

For those who like desire to keep yer friends in prayer Danger Close gave me an idea to keep a tickle file. It is on one of those Post-It Notes™ desktop stickies.

Irish Rose job/kids
Realwest cancer/mom
GotC EH/kids
Storagemanager, hospice of Alz
Danger close ?
Babbazee cancer
zulubabay, Carl in jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
Savage Nations Dad Frank cancer
vxbush her & son
Cartman liver and other health problems
JamieWearingFools wife surgery
Charles Johnsons mom cancer
Irene NYC mom cancer
noam sayin' brother cancer
caiospirit back trouble
DorianGrey much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad & Fjordman in the belly of the beast of Eurabia

If I have missed any or misremembered any please correct.

506 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:19:53am

re: #504 BulgarWheat

The Bucks last regular season lose was in unhappy valley in 2005. no repeat tonite.

507 gettinby  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:21:22am

re: #505 BenZacharia

If I have missed any or misremembered any please correct.

Mrs. BenZ and you.

(Y'all are truly in my daily prayers.)

508 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:22:35am

re: #505 BenZacharia

That is so dear, and I am so grateful to be included.

509 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:23:11am

#506 BenZacharia

I remember that game very well. I have a 75 year old neighbor down the street who's a PSU grad. When I woke up the following morning, I had a tombstone with the date and the score, laminated pictures of JoePa stating this is Paterno Country, and a stuffed Nitanny Lion in my yard. I showed my wife and she commented that she thought it was horrible.
I told her anything that can turn a 75 year old man into an 18 year old kid was good for the soul.
Going to be a rainy, noisy, low scoring defensive battle. Go Bucks!

BenZ, I took pictures, if your email is turned on I'll forward to you.

510 dentate  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:24:30am

re: #505 BenZacharia

It's "minyan," Ben. Not "minion," as in "evil minions." Please. ;-)

511 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:25:54am

Religion of dead women and children...

A powerful explosion went off in a house in southern Gaza on Saturday, killing two women and a four-year-old girl, Palestinian medics and witnesses sa

The blast tore down the facade of the house and badly damaged its interior. A neighboring house was also partially damaged from the force of the blast.

The IDF said it was not carrying out any operations in the area at the time.

Hamas police said they suspected explosives being handled by militants went off prematurely.

A powerful explosion went off in a house in southern Gaza on Saturday, killing two women and a four-year-old girl, Palestinian medics and witnesses said.

RELATED
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The cause of the blast in the town of Khan Younis was not immediately clear.

The blast tore down the facade of the house and badly damaged its interior. A neighboring house was also partially damaged from the force of the blast.

The IDF said it was not carrying out any operations in the area at the time.

Hamas police said they suspected explosives being handled by militants went off prematurely.

512 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:26:02am

re: #509 BulgarWheat
It's so cold my nic turned blue.

513 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:27:11am

re: #510 dentate

As if we could get 10 together for anything, but a bbq.

514 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:28:06am

re: #505 BenZacharia

Thank you...you and the wife are in my prayers.

515 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:28:57am

Messed up #511...sorry.

516 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:30:20am
Turkey anger at Europe over PKK
Turkey's PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan criticises EU nations for not doing more to tackle Kurdish PKK rebels.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

517 dentate  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:30:58am

re: #513 BenZacharia

re: #510 dentate

As if we could get 10 together for anything, but a bbq.

We manage it most of the time, and your list will come with me today--thanks for posting it!

518 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:32:35am

#512 BenZacharia

Pic's sent. My motivation for tonights game.

Go Bucks!

OH...

519 akak  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:33:16am

The boys are playing well for Paterno.

Go Buckeyesss...

520 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:34:14am

re: #518 BulgarWheat

...IO

521 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:36:19am

re: #518 BulgarWheat

Wifffeees' back doc said he reserved his championship package as soon as LSU posted a lose. Yesterday he said the price had already risen 300%.

522 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:36:27am

BenZ

There's a halloween party tonight. My wife asked my what my costume is going to be. I said I'd be wearing my # 11 (Gonzo) away BCS Jersey with a cold beer in my hand, in my favorite chair in front of my tv.

Got a game to watch tonight, heh!

523 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:37:39am

re: #522 BulgarWheat

What? No sweater vest and tie?

OH...

524 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:38:08am

#521 BenZacharia

I also have pics from the 2002 NC game against Miami. A picture of me and my older brother with the final scoreboard in the background. Also got a great shot of a rare "double script Ohio".

I so love CFB! Happy time.

525 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:38:59am

#523

Don't get me wrong. I love Tressel, but I'm old school. More of a Woody-guy my self.

526 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:39:25am

If you have red hair, light skin and freckles...

you may be a neanderthal

527 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:39:32am

...IO

almost missed that, oops!

528 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:40:19am

man its cold out there...dog looked act me like I was crazy...but she has a fur coat.

529 Luigi  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:40:36am

Let us not forget..

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Suspicious Activity at California Fire Stations

During the last week of July, fire officials in the Bay Area city of Campbell reported that two men had been seen videotaping routine activities at a fire station.

The men were reportedly in their 20s or early 30s, and one was using a sophisticated news media-style camera. When firefighters attempted to talk with the men, they reportedly jumped into a waiting car and sped off.

The incident prompted the Sacramento Regional Terrorism Threat Assessment Center to send out a request for Northern California fire stations to watch for similar incidents, and report them immediately.

The media forgets this, but we shouldn't.

530 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:44:13am
1. Video of Umar Lee, a Muslim writer who has charged me with harboring secret racist tendencies. (His evidence? Why, I run Jihad Watch!) It looks as if maybe Umar was projecting, for in the Incorrect U video he directs several racial slurs at the black policeman who was evicting him from the IFAW event at George Washington University.

2. Then there's Hot Air video of YAF phenom Jason "CAIR can go to hell and take their 72 virgins with them" Mattera speaking with Adam Kokesh, the GWU student who posted "satirical" flyers that have been taken as real IFAW publications all over. Mattera questions Kokesh brilliantly, tying him up into knots with the contradictions in his thinking, getting him to acknowledge essentially that one may speak in terms of Fascism in an Islamic Context, but not, good heavens, Islamo-Fascism. Here again, on lavish display, is the intellectual bankruptcy of the opposition, and why they must resort to slander, intimidation, and the shouting-down of speakers.

[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

531 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:46:09am

Proof that it always takes the wife longer to get ready when going out on a date.

532 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:46:14am
'Australia, others will punish Iran'


Australia says 'many nations will follow the US' in imposing sanctions on Tehran

Reuters Published: 10.27.07, 10:55 / Israel News


Many nations will follow the United States in slapping sanctions on Iran if it fails to suspend its nuclear enrichment program soon, Australia, a strong U.S. ally, said.

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer's statement closely followed a strong defense on Friday by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice of expanded U.S. sanctions on Tehran

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

533 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:47:26am

&#9836 &#9834 Good morning Lizards &#9834 &#9836

We have a rainy, coolish day in the valley and it looks like it's curtains for the last fall leaves clinging to the limbs in a last-ditch blaze of glory.

Saddened to know that Charles' mom is ill - my prayers and best wishes for her recovery are going up to The Big Guy.

534 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:50:29am

Not a friend but a foe...time to wake up...

A Chinese official on Saturday announced his country's opposition to imposing economic sanctions on Iran.

Chinese press quoted their Foreign Ministry Spokesman Liu Jianchao as saying that Beijing also believed that exerting pressures and imposing sanctions against Iran will not resolve any problem, but on the contrary will make settlement of remaining issues on Iran's nuclear case more complicated.

Meanwhile, Hong Kong-based Phonix news agency, on Friday and Saturday declared that foreign companies would not welcome the US unilateral sanctions against Iran.

Its New York-based reporter said that foreign institutes and companies would likely oppose the sanctions, and the US would receive a blow in this respect.

Chinese media have quoted Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad-Ali Hosseini as saying that Iran considers the sanctions as defeated.

China is a veto-wielding member of the UN Security Council, and has always opposed the US extremist policy on Iran's nuclear activities.

Chinese leaders think negotiation is the best way to resolve disputes over Iranian nuclear program.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

535 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:53:44am

al-Sadr orders new drills...

.BAGHDAD — Radical Shiite cleric Muqtada Al-Sadr could end a ban on his militia's activities because of rising anger over U.S. and Iraqi raids against his followers, an aide said Friday amid concerns about rising violence and clashes between rival factions in the mainly Shiite south.

Al-Sadr's call for a six-month cease-fire has been credited with a sharp drop in the number of bullet-riddled bodies that turn up on the streets of Iraq and are believed to be victims of Shiite death squads.

Baghdad police found three people slain execution-style and bearing signs of torture on Friday, compared with the dozens often found on a typical day before al-Sadr's declaration. The morgue in the southern city of Kut received two bodies, including one pulled from the Tigris River.

Another five Iraqis were killed in attacks nationwide, including a woman who was caught up in a suicide attack north of Baghdad while she was walking to the market.

The religion of pain and power tools. [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

536 FishFearMe  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:53:45am

From waaayyy up-thread.

Charles...it says alot about a Mom when she has raised a son like you. She, I'm sure, is an incredible woman. My Dad died a little over 3 years ago with liver problems and I saw what he went through and, not to be pessimistic, it wasn't pretty. I am sure that with all the prayers being offered here on LGF, that Ma Johnson will be just fine. I feel comfortable in speaking for all of Lizardia in wishing The Queen Mother of All Lizards a speedy and complete recovery. BTW, to my fellow Catholics, St. Anthony is the Patron Saint of Miracles. Prayers said.

537 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:55:07am

Good Morning Y'all - from a coolish (48 degrees, going up to 74) and overcast Charlotte!
How's everyone doing this fine morning?

538 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:56:19am

{realwest} Good morning *smoooch* Happy to see you today. :D

539 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:58:46am

allah is in the WH while the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has been kicked out of veterans funerals at the direction of Washington.

540 hayseed  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:58:46am

the convent just called the house to let me know that Sister Mildred passed away this morning. my wife gonna be a basket case when she gets home. my wife is a nurse at the convent and has taken care of Sister Mildred for 23 years.please keep my wife ,Sister Mildred , and her family in prayer...thanks Hayseed

541 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:59:06am

re: #537 realwest

Can't be any better, Real.

The Red Sox are 2 wins away from a championship
The Patriots are playing amazing football
Boston College is a breath away from being the #1 team in the country
The Boston celtics are once again relevent
The Bruins are playing well

even though I now live in Atlanta,, it's GREAT to be from BOSTON !

542 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:59:32am

#537 realwest

Good morning, Real! Nice and rainy/cool here outside of Raleigh also.

We sure did need to rain.

543 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 5:59:39am

What kind of a world ...do we live in?...

VINELAND, N.J. — Police said a second-grader killed himself in a bedroom of his family's Vineland home on Wednesday.

Authorities haven't released the name of the seven-year-old boy or that of his family.

According to The Daily Journal of Vineland, the boy hanged himself.

Police said several family members were at home when he died.

They found his body after he didn't answer a call to dinner.

Grief counselors were at the boy's school.

Cumberland County Prosecutor Ron Casella told The Press of Atlantic City that his office doesn't usually talk about suicides.

But Casella said want to counter any concerns that the boy's death was a homicide or the result of child abuse.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

544 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:00:15am

#541 sattv4u2

BC is going to "remain" # 2 for a while.
Go Bucks!

545 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:01:56am

re: #539 BenZacharia

allah is in the WH while the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has been kicked out of veterans funerals at the direction of Washington.

That is too sick for words...my dad is buried there!

546 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:02:24am

re: #505 BenZacharia Good morning Ben - that's a pretty good list y'all have there, though it's obviously not in order of the "intensity" or "immediacy" of the problems (cause if it was I'd be waaay down on the list). There are four other lizards with whom I'm in touch most every week, sometimes more than that, who could go on that list as well.
Unfortunately they haven't mentioned their problems out here on LGF and I don't feel it's proper for me to "out" them, so to speak.
But other than that, your prayer list and mine are the same (except you and Mrs. Ben Z are on mine and I think you ought to put them on that list for those whose prayer lists may not be up to date).
It was very thoughtful of you to compile/post that for us all.

547 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:02:49am

Morning folks,

A deluge here in NJ for the past several hours. Wish I could send some of this rain to California and down south to the drought-stricken area.

Sorry to read that news about Charles' mother. My prayers are with him and his family. My father died of cancer when I was 17 and you never really get over something like that. My mother is getting on in years and I'm always concerned for her health.

My dear wife is having a biopsy Tuesday. Spent a good portion of the day yesterday at the hospital while she underwent tests. She had a lumpectomy and radiation five years ago and we'd hoped that was the last of it.

Apparently not.

On top of that, she had a horrible stomach virus yesterday.

548 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:03:11am

re: #540 hayseed
Sorry for you and the wife...of course Prayers and thoughts..

549 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:04:02am

re: #544 BulgarWheat

#541 sattv4u2

BC is going to "remain" # 2 for a while.
Go Bucks!

Could be considering the size of that school, and although they've had good teams iin the past, they never were a real football power, al a the Ohio's, Michigans, Penn States, USC's, Oklahomas, the 3 Florida powers, #2 is amazing for them,, . BUT, you have a tough one today,,, sooo,,, hope springs eternal !

550 gettinby  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:04:09am

A very good morning to you, too, {realwest}!

Still drizzle-raining here in lovely Tampa Bay, BUT, high in the upper 80's. Can't wait for our 5 days of "winter" which we should get in, maybe, January.

How are you?!

551 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:04:09am

re: #543 storagemanager

This kind.

552 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:05:14am

re: #547 JammieWearingFool
I am sorry to hear that...prayers...I have lost 3 to cancer.

553 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:05:15am

re: #542 BulgarWheat Hey, good morning to you!
Don't know how much rain we've actually received down in Matthews, but I'd guess about 2+ inches since late Wednesday night through yesterday. Unfortunately it's supposed to be sunny again for the next several days.
How are y'all doing?

554 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:05:39am

#549 sattv4u2

Yep, we got a tough one tonight. Nice ending to Thursday nights game for you, eh?

Good luck the rest of your season.

Go Bucks!

555 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:06:20am

re: #546 realwest

I stole the idea from Danger Close. Divine Post-It Notes™

download the program from post-it, little stickies on you PC desktop

556 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:06:37am

re: #551 BenZacharia

re: #543 storagemanager

This kind.


Sick world...

557 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:07:23am

Maoist Rebels Fire on Festival in India

NEW DELHI (AP) - Communist rebels opened fire on a crowd of revelers at a festival in eastern India on Saturday, killing a politician's son and 17 other people, police said.
About 25 Maoist guerrillas attacked the village festival in the remote state of Jharkhand, firing indiscriminately, local police chief Arun Kumar Singh told The Associated Press.

Among the dead was Anuplal Marandi, the son of the state's former chief minister, Babulal Marandi, he said. The politician was thought to be on the rebel's hit list after leading a crackdown against them while in office, Singh said.

Some 14 people were killed in the attack and four others died later in a hospital. Three more people were wounded, he said. The rebels, who frequently target police and government officials, also threw a bomb into the crowd before fleeing.

558 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:07:52am

re: #554 BulgarWheat

I almost burned out my remote control, switching between the Red Sox game and BC's !

559 lowandslow  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:07:54am

No offense to anyone but this has got to be the most depressing Saturday morning thread ever.

560 gettinby  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:08:54am

re: #547 JammieWearingFool

So sorry to hear this. :(

Mrs. Jammie and you and your family are definitely in my prayers, too.

561 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:10:01am

#559 lowandslow

Yes, lots of heavy news. Trying to mix in a little College Football though.

562 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:10:26am

The Religion of Beheading at work: Soldiers move in on militant cleric

Pakistani troops and helicopter gunships attacked the village stronghold of a militant cleric yesterday...

Militants kidnapped and beheaded three paramilitary soldiers and a police officer, and displayed their severed heads in a village near the resort town of Swat...

563 tai-pan  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:11:50am

re: #19 squarepeg

it works when comments are hiden

564 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:11:52am
TOKYO, Oct. 27 (AP) - (Kyodo)—Defense Minister Shigeru Ishiba will issue an evacuation order for the Maritime Self-Defense Force fleet involved in refueling operations in the Indian Ocean on Nov. 1, when the special antiterrorism law authorizing the mission expires, Defense Ministry sources said Saturday.
A supply vessel and a destroyer will leave waters, from where they have been supporting U.S.-led antiterrorism operations in and around Afghanistan, early on Nov. 2 and will return home around three weeks later.

While the government is aiming to secure Diet approval for a new antiterrorism law in order to continue the MSDF mission, its enactment during the current Diet session appears difficult in the face of strong resistance from the opposition bloc following a series of scandals involving the Defense Ministry.

Given the circumstances, many government officials expect the hiatus in the MSDF mission to last more than half a year.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

565 FishFearMe  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:12:17am

re: #547 JammieWearingFool

Best wishes for your Beloved and for hayseed, Mrs. hayseed and Sister Mildred.

Maybe there is some way someone (not me, I am too computer-stupid) can create a private site that lists Lizards, family members of Lizards and F.O.Z's (Friends of Lizards) who are in need of our prayers...kinda like a Prayer Group where we can add our thoughts and wishes for their well-being. Just a thought.

566 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:12:48am

JWF,

Waiting for the 'official' results from last Thursdays biopsys.

567 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:13:08am

More dubious polling exposed by NewsBusters

CNN and Newsweak doing their best to prop up the worst Congress ever.

568 gettinby  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:13:26am

re: #559 lowandslow

No offense to anyone but this has got to be the most depressing Saturday morning thread ever.

Yeah, you're right.

LET'S ROCK!

/The oldies ALWAYS put me in a better mood. :)

569 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:14:54am

Thanks for the kind words, folks.

I'll get back to my usual posting after I get some food in me.

570 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:15:28am

ADDNEDUM TO MY # 546 - There are actually a total of 7 other lizards in trouble not mentioned on BenZ's list but who haven't said anything out here.
Shit.

571 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:16:07am
It's understandable that attention this week is focused on the mistrial declared in the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) Hamas-support case. The government failed to persuade jurors beyond a reasonable doubt that the foundation and its officials deliberately routed money to Hamas through a set of Palestinian charities.


With the exception of Mohammed El-Mezain, the defendants find themselves exactly in the same position they were in when this case was indicted in 2004. El-Mezain was acquitted on all but one count against him. But that count, conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, is no minor threat to his freedom.


But more importantly, we know much more about HLF and its leaders today than we knew when the trial started in July. And what we learned about what had been America's largest Muslim charity and many of its allies is not pretty.


While most analyses of the court case dub it a government failure, there is a public service in exposing secrets about a group or its leaders that they'd prefer you never know. That's what happened here. And that's what HLF and its allies are hoping you'll forget in the fog of the mistrial.


We know HLF officials lied about their support of Hamas, both informally and to US courts. And we know defendant and former HLF CEO Shukri Abu Baker believes in deception as a means to an end.


We've seen this before. Post-mortems on the HLF trial invariably invoke the 2005 trial of former University of South Florida Professor Sami Al-Arian. He was accused of leading an American support cell for the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ). Jurors in his trial acquitted him on eight counts and hung on nine others. He later pled guilty to providing goods and services to the PIJ.


That trial saw retired FBI agent Manny Perez testify that, in a 1991 meeting with him, Al-Arian denied having anything to do with the PIJ. Three months later, Al-Arian spoke at a Cleveland mosque, exhibiting no reaction when the imam introduced him as the head of PIJ's "active arm."

Other evidence showed Al-Arian served on the PIJ governing board.

Like he did with Perez, Al-Arian spent the next 12 years lying to anyone else who asked about his PIJ affiliation. He lied to IPT founder and Executive Director Steven Emerson during an interview for the 1994 documentary Jihad in America.

Emerson: Would you say you support the Islamic Jihad factions?

Al-Arian: No, we don't support any political groups at all.

At one point in the interview, Al-Arian even feigned ignorance about what the initials PIJ stood for. Earlier that year, FBI surveillance tapes show, he battled with PIJ founder Fathi Shikaki to keep the group together after a financial crisis threatened Iranian support.

He lied to his bosses at the university when questions came up about his think tank's relationship to PIJ. In 1995, he lied to Florida reporters, again denying any relationship to the PIJ, especially when a researcher who ran Al-Arian's think tank emerged as the new PIJ commander following Shikaki's assassination.

[Link: www.investigativeproject.org...]

572 FishFearMe  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:17:20am

re: #554 BulgarWheat

I was lucky enough to attend a game a few years ago at The Horseshoe. It was CRAZY! 104,432 Buckeyes and ONE Texan (ME)! I was the only one there that didn't talk with an accent. LOL

573 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:17:26am

re: #538 {Miss Trixie} Hey there you! Good morning and a *smootch* back at ya! Hope you're doing well today.

574 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:20:10am

re: #541 sattv4u2 I agree with y'all - it'd be great to be FROM Boston! LOL!
Well, with them Taxachussets folks continuing to elect Kennedy (any one of 'em with that name) Kerry and the like, I reckon they are entitled to some good news once in a while.

BREAK UP THE PATRIOTS! LOL!

575 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:20:43am
TRENTON, N.J. - Lawless and violent street gangs are operating in more cities and towns across New Jersey, according to a new statewide survey on gang activity.

Four of every 10 municipalities responding to the state police survey reported the presence of gangs, 10 percent more than in a similar survey three years ago.

The three largest _ Bloods, Latin Kings and Crips _ are in more than 100 towns statewide, according to the report, which was made public on Thursday

[Link: www.knowgangs.com...]

576 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:22:09am

You know damned well where this is headed: Senior nurses to decide whether patients should be resuscitated

Senior nurses will be allowed to veto the resuscitation of patients under new guidelines issued yesterday by the medical profession.

The British Medical Association said patients should be spared "undignified and unnecessary" attempts to revive them when there could be no realistic hope of success.

577 BulgarWheat  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:22:34am

#572 FishFearMe

I drove up from Raleigh to see that game. It was a doozy.

578 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:23:48am

re: #547 JammieWearingFool Hey Jammie - I'm really sorry to hear the news; please know that my prayers are going up for Mrs. JWF and for you, too. God bless you both.

579 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:24:09am

re: #574 realwest

BREAK UP THE PATRIOTS! LOL!

Absolutely ,,, well ,, that is after another few Super Bowl Wins !

580 BenZacharia  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:25:29am

re: #575 storagemanager

My lil sis did her masters thesis on gangs, 8-10 years ago(?), at the time Cols police said, "Gangs? There are no gangs in Columbus." She embarrassed Chief Jackass.

581 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:26:13am

re: #550 {gettinby} Good morning to y'all, LOL!
5 days of winter? Shoot we got y'all beat on that - we get at least 4-6 weeks of winter and last winter we had SNOW. Yeppers, two inches in one day/night. Course, that was the only snow we got all winter, but still...!
How are y'all doing this fine morning?

582 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:28:11am

re: #555 BenZacharia LOL! NOW I find out about it! I've got a legal size pad of paper with names on it, and I keep that one page scotch taped to the side of my 'puter! Danger Close's idea seems much better, but sure would take up most of my screen, I'm afraid.
Shit.

583 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:28:43am

re: #578 realwest

re: #547 JammieWearingFool Hey Jammie - I'm really sorry to hear the news; please know that my prayers are going up for Mrs. JWF and for you, too. God bless you both.

The same goes for me {JWF & Beloved wife}.

584 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:31:21am

re: #559 lowandslow Yeah, in a way it IS the most depressing - on the other hand, look at it this way - thanks to BenZ, we now have a list of Lizards in trouble to help make it easier for us to pray every night.
Other than depressed, how are you doing my friend?

585 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:34:54am

re: #565 FishFearMe That's a GREAT thought!
Oh, uh, and how are you this morning! LOL! Didn't mean to overlook that, but that was just a really GREAT idea you have!
Um what's with hayseed and mrs hayseed?

586 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:36:40am

re: #556 storagemanager

re: #551 BenZacharia


re: #543 storagemanager

This kind.


Sick world...

..and getting sicker...

Foster child to be taken away because Christian couple refuse to teach him about homosexuality

587 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:37:08am

re: #579 sattv4u2 Gettin' a litte greedy are ya? LOL!
If the Colts hadn't won last year, there'd be no damn point in watching the Super Bowl at all!

588 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:37:34am
Not a dime's worth of difference...between the two parties.

The two pic's say it all...what does victory look like? [Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

589 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:39:21am
U.S. forces said they killed two Shi'ite militiamen, including one wearing a suicide vest, during a raid north of Baghdad on Saturday to capture a rogue leader of cleric Moqtada al-Sadr's Mehdi Army.

The military said the main suspect, one of 15 detained in the operation, had links to an Iranian intelligence cell and was involved in kidnappings of and attacks on U.S. forces using explosively formed penetrators

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

590 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:39:33am

Putin up's the ante: US risking new Cuban missile crisis

[...]
Mr Putin also warned against a US attack on Iran's uranium enrichment programme. He said: "Running around like a mad man with a blade in one's hand is not the best way to solve such problems."

Iranian officials expressed defiance a day after America imposed fresh sanctions targetting their state involvement in terrorism and nuclear proliferation.

All of Eurabia, Africa, the Mid-East & Asia are belong to Ruskie-Chinese and Mullah alliance.

591 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:41:47am

The religion of lost heads...

Militants have beheaded at least four security officials taken hostage in north-west Pakistan following an army attack, officials say.
Eleven men were kidnapped on the outskirts of Swat on Friday after Thursday's attack on the stronghold of pro-Taleban militant Maulana Fazlullah.

That attack left at least 17 soldiers and a number of civilians dead


[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

592 natemannq  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:41:50am

Love the Foo Fighters, that song, and the video...

However, if it was Stuck Mojo, they would have used Jihadists instead of police...

I'm getting a little tired of this rock n' roll counter culture where those who are protecting us are still getting attacked.

Foo Fighters need to sack up a bit..

593 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:42:30am

re: #588 storagemanager Hey good morning my friend.
Um disagree with you on that - comparing Laura Bush who is intelligent, compassionate and truly cares about what's good for America to Nancy Pelosi is just...not right.

594 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:44:09am

re: #593 realwest

re: #588 storagemanager Hey good morning my friend.
Um disagree with you on that - comparing Laura Bush who is intelligent, compassionate and truly cares about what's good for America to Nancy Pelosi is just...not right.

Good morning...it was about the way both parties give in to Islam...not Laura Bush.

595 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:44:39am

re: #590 aboo-Hoo-Hoo Morning aboo! It's not really an "alliance" except of convenience - except for hating Jews, and Democracy, those groups have nothing much in common - and when that alliance goes bust, it's gonna realign the whole world.

596 natemannq  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:46:53am

re: #593 realwest

Just out of curiosity, if we were sending our first lady to a country where it's customary for women to wear diapers, coconuts, and a bone through their hair, would she dress like that too?

597 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:47:11am

Thank you Charles for sharing something with us, I have assisted my family through carcinoid syndrome, lung, liver, kidney, colon and breast cancer over the years. To get through it all, I quit my county job and became a nursing assistant. I systematically worked my way through all units... Long term care, acute care, skilled nursing, rehabilitation, Alzheimer's, and recreation (I have seen much that astounded doctors by the power of will, spirit, and mind). As a base level aid, I was able to learn to provide the care my family needed to keep them in the home and best meet their quality of life and concerns about independence. I went on to Home Health and then while my father was dying of kidney cancer (far far to advanced to survive) I went through the training and became a hospice volunteer.

It helped me to cope. I have seen some very amazing outcomes, and it is my sincerest hope that your mother recovers to her utmost ability. Chemo can be tough depending on a person's physiology. My own father was unable to tolerate the treatments initial phase before he could have begun the strongest drug form that could have arrested the progression, but my father-in-law beginning in January has been very successful with his surgical outcome and all of his treatments. So well he only had flu like symptoms for a day or two after the strongest treatments. He was on his feet and back to work all through his chemo.

Something someone told me early on that helped me to be much more effective was to narrow my focus on my relationship with that person and to keep myself from becoming fretful, anxious or distracted from the other familial issues that can occur when a loved one becomes potentially acutely ill - was to play music that the person liked. My father's family was rabid, crazy and did not cope well with his sudden and short illness (only 4 months)... but because I was able to focus on the most important person (my father and my relationship with him), I was able to stay outside the fray, be a safe harbor for the rest of the family and to be a calming influence for others.

My heartfelt prayer for your and yours Charles, is that you all can walk through adversity with peace and grace.

598 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:50:48am

re: #596 natemannq

re: #593 realwest

Just out of curiosity, if we were sending our first lady to a country where it's customary for women to wear diapers, coconuts, and a bone through their hair, would she dress like that too?

If they threaten to behead her if she doesn't then probably yes.

599 opnion  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:51:59am

re: #594 storagemanager

re: #593 realwest

re: #588 storagemanager Hey good morning my friend.
Um disagree with you on that - comparing Laura Bush who is intelligent, compassionate and truly cares about what's good for America to Nancy Pelosi is just...not right.

Good morning...it was about the way both parties give in to Islam...not Laura Bush.

Good Saturday Morning. I have to agree. I find laura Bush to be a woman of great dignity and a terrific asset for W.It seems that he married well.
Now for the BUT. Kowtowing to these Dark Ages customs does not help our standing in the Umma.
I believe that on the contrary that these images only reinforce the feeling of superiority that is way too common in Islam.
I am around Muslims enough to get the strong impression that to them our customs are to be resisted

600 gettinby  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:52:31am

re: #596 natemannq

re: #593 realwest

Just out of curiosity, if we were sending our first lady to a country where it's customary for women to wear diapers, coconuts, and a bone through their hair, would she dress like that too?

She's going to visit Berkeley?

LOL

601 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:52:37am

Greets and saluts from the soggy and damp NYC metro area. I see that the suicide bombers didn't take the day off in Afghanistan.

Three Afghan soldiers and an Afghan civilian were killed when a suicide bomber attempted to gain entry to a US base at FOB Bermel.

The headchoppers and bomber have remained busy in Thailand as well.

Police found the decapitated body of an unidentified man in a village known for Islamic militancy in Thailand's strife-torn south on Saturday.

In a separate incident, a bomb exploded next to two busy roadside restaurants, killing a woman and wounding 14 other people, police said.

Police Lt. Paen Promdee said the body was found in the Nong Chik district of Pattani province early Saturday morning, but that the head was missing.

Also Saturday, a bomb exploded between a restaurant and a coffee shop in Narathiwat province's Rangae district, triggered by a mobile phone, police Col. Chalerm Yingyong said.

Chalerm indicated that police also suspected Muslim insurgents in that attack.

602 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:52:53am

re: #503 Owl

OT - GA vs. FLA today.

my poor dawgs...:( ...we are probably going to be spanked...

Hi been gone for a while. Took a weeks vacation and the wife had me doing all osrts of stuff around the house. Anyway to make the game interesting the governors of the two states should play for the water rights.

603 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:53:07am

re: #598 NJDhockeyfan

re: #596 natemannq


re: #593 realwest

Just out of curiosity, if we were sending our first lady to a country where it's customary for women to wear diapers, coconuts, and a bone through their hair, would she dress like that too?


If they threaten to behead her if she doesn't then probably yes.


Then she shouldn't be there...we must stop appeasing Islam...it does no good anyway.

604 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:53:27am

re: #596 natemannq I suppose if that nation were in the mix of our foreign policy concerns we might; or if it was a nation who's adherent had one and a half-billion adherents we might.
Just a note of caution for you - I ain't in the mood for people being snarky with me today - and unless you're a sock-puppet (registered
Jan 8, 2005 - total comments, including that last one, 159) you can kiss my ass.

605 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:53:56am

Judgment day looms for ‘bomb gang’ that divided the nation

...

Nineteen Arab men, of mainly Moroccan origin, are facing charges of preparing and carrying out the Madrid attacks – the deadliest on European soil since the downing of a Pan Am airliner over Lockerbie in 1988. Nine Spaniards are charged with providing the explosives for the radical Islamic cell, which left a total of 13 holdalls packed with nails and dynamite aboard the trains and ran off. Days later, explosives were also found next to the high-speed train line between Madrid and Seville, where trains pass at speeds of up to 350km/h (218mph).

Another 11 men believed to have participated in the attacks escaped trial in one way or another. Seven alleged ringleaders blew themselves up when police surrounded their Madrid flat three weeks after the attacks, killing one officer. Three suspects are still at large and one is believed to have died in a suicide attack in Iraq. One more was released from the trial for lack of evidence.

Prosecutors have asked for sentences of nearly 39,000 years each for most of the defendants – a largely symbolic request since, under Spanish law, no one can spend more than 40 years in prison.

40 years...that's it?

606 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:54:02am

re: #237 pink freud

re: #204 Pawn of the Oppressor

Pawn:

I'm a native Louisianian and Cajun. I lived in New Orleans for a few years many years ago, but am now back in Cajun Country. I don;t know what types of food you are looking for, but New Orleans - especially the Quarter - is mostly Creole food although they do make a stab at replicating authentic Cajun. I spent a few days down in the quarter a few months back and was greatly disappointed at how far down it has gone. The restaurants that survived Katrina have opened back up, many sans their chefs upon which they made their names. As for prices - again, I was shocked. From my native perspective, the prices have nearly doubled pre-Katrina to post-Katrina, and this includes the hotel rooms (although I can only speak for the twnety or so I checked in the Quarter when I made our reservations.)

I can recommend Arnaud's for some seriously good food, more of a continental menu with a few Cajun dishes - such as duck and andouille gumbo - available.

Port-of-Call down on Esplanade (the east border of the Quarter, running north/south) serves the best burgers I've ever eaten, loaded with about 4" of shredded cheese piled on. It's a favorite of the locals, a place that hasn't changed a smidgen in the last twenty years. It's a great place to park your weary feet and enjoy an ice cold beer with a filling lunch.

You wil find now that many of the Creole restaurants have been replaced with Mexican ones. The illegal population there is phenomenal.

Lafayette is about a hundred miles ot the west, right on I-10. It's the home of Cajun cooking and beats New Orleans hands down when it comes to pleasing the palate. You might consider making a day trip to experience the true Cajun culture. The prices are - overall - about half of what you would pay in New Orleans. Plus, the 30-mile bridge over the Atchafalaya Basin is a wonderful sight, one you will never forget. The music is better, too. : ) New Orleans lost it's soul after Katrina.

Let me know if you would like any particular information and I will be happy to help you. I know that there are a few other lizards from the area ...renee de toute, for starters. Perhaps he/she can also be of helo to you.


Hard to find good Mexican in Lafayette. Casa Ole on Kaliste Saloom is just pathetic. There is a Ninfa's across from the mall, a little better. Posados on Ambassador Caffery near the Vermillion River is probably your best shot.


The Tampico's in New Iberia isn't bad. For semi-authentic local food, Prejeans isn't bad. I lived right next to a huge touristy crawfish place, tour busses and everything, on Kaliste Saloom, but they have a live Acadien style band on weekends and a dance floor.

607 gettinby  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:54:29am

re: #581 realwest

Ooops! Almost missed your answer!

We're just fine for a couple of old Tampians. Thanks for asking.

608 Born Again Republican  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:55:04am

re: #597 The Albatross

Powerful story, thank you for telling it.

609 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:55:41am
Turkey will take steps to fight Iraq-based Kurdish rebels "when needed," regardless of international pressure, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Saturday.

"Whenever an operation is needed to be carried out, we will do that," Erdogan told a Turkish flag-waving crowd in the western city of Izmit. "We do not need to ask anything from anyone for that. Some (countries) might have other wishes, but we make our decisions on our own." Turkey has been under pressure from the United States, Iraq and other countries to refrain from a cross-border offensive against Kurdish PKK rebels based in northern Iraq.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

610 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:55:59am

Good morning Lizards, it is a clear, dry, but nippy 52 this morning on the NW Florida coast. My husband was laughing at me because I already broke out an extra comforter. I guess my blood has become rather thin. I am a bit embarrased to say that in temps of less than 50 I am freezing my butt off, I am stubborn and won't turn on the heater... I want to keep the house open as long as I can.

611 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:56:13am

Islamic groups sue man, seek libel damages

ARLINGTON -- Islamic organizations in North Texas are seeking libel damages in a lawsuit against Joe Kaufman, leader of the Florida-based Americans Against Hate.

Kaufman visited Six Flags Over Texas in Arlington on Oct. 14 to lead a protest against Muslim Family Day, an event celebrating the end of Ramadan, a period of holy days on the Islamic calendar marked by fasts and prayer.

The lawsuit, filed Oct. 12, asked a judge to prohibit Kaufman from threatening, harming or inciting violence against anyone associated with the outing, in addition to libel damages, according to court records.

612 natemannq  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:56:24am

re: #599 opnion

Couldn't agree more and I can't believe our leaders are this stupid. It's almost like they're doing some wacky Yoga dance and think it's poetry in motion..

However, from the balcony, we can see it for what it is.

Cowardly dross.

613 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:56:34am

Oh, and we've got a premature explodation in Gaza. Three dead - including a child when terrorists playing with explosives had it go off. Three others were wounded (2 kids).

614 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:57:17am

re: #602 Just_A_Grunt ROTFLMAO! Except, I'm afraid, those water rights are no laughing matter.
Good morning to you - hope y'all get some of the rain we've had for the last couple of days here in NC.

615 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:57:28am

Most Americans denounce Iran sanctions Iran's PressTV -

According to a poll conducted by the C.SPAN television network, 76 percent of participants felt that sanctions would not limit Iran's peaceful nuclear activities.

I call BS, Ron Paul!...both aforementioned.

616 natemannq  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:57:45am

re: #600 gettinby

HA!

617 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:58:07am
Dhimmitude is the status that Islamic law, the Sharia, mandates for non-Muslims, primarily Jews and Christians. Dhimmis, "protected people," are free to practice their religion in a Sharia regime, but are made subject to a number of humiliating regulations designed to enforce the Qur'an's command that they "feel themselves subdued" (Sura 9:29). This denial of equality of rights and dignity remains part of the Sharia, and, as such, is part of the law that global jihadists are laboring to impose everywhere, ultimately on the entire human race.

This is your reward for giving in to Islam...I will never submit! [Link: jihadwatch.org...]

618 BabbaZee  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:58:39am
#15 Charles

if you're the praying sort, my mother could use your prayers. She's been diagnosed with liver cancer, has already had one operation, and is now going through chemotherapy.

Have not read this thread, but I saw this when looking at Charles' comments.

Reposting it here in case any of the praying posters missed it.

Gotta go, BBL maybe.

619 Desert Dog  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:58:52am

re: #615 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Most Americans cannot find Iran on a map (and have trouble finding the USA sometimes too!)

620 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:59:10am

re: #608 Born Again Republican

*blush*

I switched to health and wellness and am now an Aquatics Director at our YMCA.

For all those lizards who have or who have loved ones dealing with health issues... God bless you and may you be filled with health, vigor, and peace.

621 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:59:48am
622 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:00:16am

re: #603 storagemanager So, again, what is it you think we should do about Islam, hmmm?

623 opnion  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:01:40am

re: #619 Desert Dog

re: #615 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Most Americans cannot find Iran on a map (and have trouble finding the USA sometimes too!)

Thats why I would give all US Americans, South Africans & Iraqis and such maps and such.

624 natemannq  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:02:26am

re: #603 storagemanager

Not only does it do no good... It breeds more jihadists... The Jihadist recruiting office likely picked up a few thousand volunteers after showing Laura Bush in a Burqa..

Hell, it's probably on a poster in the storefront window with a caption underneath that says..

"First Lady, Mrs. Ogyny"

625 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:02:40am

Good morn all hope everyone is doing well.

626 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:02:42am

re: #612 natemannq OK - I'll ask you the same thing I asked storeagemanager - what do you think we should do about Islam?

627 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:02:56am

Yesterday was the 40th anniversary of John McCain's Skyraider being shot down over Hanoi.


I would so like to support John McCain for President, because he has done some amazing things in his life, and while he is generally on the right side of the issues, he seems to have a need to demonstrate his independence, that he is a 'maverick', by taking very wrong positions, like McCain-Feingold incumbent protection act, or th McCain-Bush-Kennedy illegal alien welcome mat act.

628 vxbush  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:02:57am

Alas, my friends, I am in mourning today. I went to install Leopard on my machine, and the hard drive says it's failing. Which means I have to wait until I can get a new hard drive to install.

Excuse me...

*sniff*

---

All kidding aside, Charles, I will add your mother to my prayer list. And you. I think you may need it as well.

629 FishFearMe  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:03:09am

re: #585 realwest

Buenos dias, Realwest! Thanks for the compliment. I hope all is well in NC today. Here in Maine, it's rainy and cool and we are gettin' ready for our % MONTHS of winter! LMAO

630 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:04:31am

re: #618 BabbaZee Mroning Babba - hope you checked out BenZ's #505 above.

631 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:05:26am

PIMF - morning! Who the hell moved these keys around on my keyboard?!

632 FishFearMe  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:05:38am

re: #629 FishFearMe

5 months...pimf

633 natemannq  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:05:40am

re: #626 realwest

We can start by telling the truth about it...

634 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:06:01am

re: #622 realwest

re: #603 storagemanager So, again, what is it you think we should do about Islam, hmmm?

Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."

Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Ishaq:324 "He said, ‘Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.'"

The bible states that man can do nothing to change the world alone...the Koran states that Muslims must rise up and rule the world...you tell me...should we all get a tirbin and learn Arabic>...I mean no offence...you are a good friend.

635 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:07:20am

re: #628 vxbush

Alas, my friends, I am in mourning today. I went to install Leopard on my machine, and the hard drive says it's failing. Which means I have to wait until I can get a new hard drive to install.

Excuse me...

*sniff*

---

All kidding aside, Charles, I will add your mother to my prayer list. And you. I think you may need it as well.

VX, Try reseating the drive cables, and go to the drive manufacturer's website to see if they have diagnostics.

636 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:07:48am

re: #628 {vxbush} I know the "in mourning" was an attempt at humor and would've succeeded most mornings, but go see Ben's #505 - it ain't a happy day in Lizardland right now.

637 ubercheesehead  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:09:31am

Charles, so sorry to read about your mother's plight. My prayers are with her, and with you.

638 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:09:49am

re: #631 realwest

PIMF - morning! Who the hell moved these keys around on my keyboard?!

Ooopsy! That would be me ... :P

639 vxbush  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:09:58am

re: #636 realwest

Yikes; no disrespect meant, and thanks for the correction, real. I saw Charles' note but I didn't see BenZ's.

re: #635 Thanos

Except that it's a laptop, and those suckers are pretty hard to get apart and back together correctly unless you know how to do it. If it were a Pismo, I could do it. But not the new Macbook Pros.

So I have to wait.

640 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:10:14am

'WOODSTOCK' WIPEOUT

October 27, 2007 -- SEN. Charles Schumer denied it, but word seeped out of the Democratic cloakroom that he was steaming over being rejected by the Senate on his earmark for a Woodstock museum - in particular, the lack of help from his New York colleague, Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Schumer and Clinton co-sponsored a $1 million earmark for the museum in Bethel, N.Y., at the site of the drug-laden 1969 Woodstock music festival. But Clinton didn't go to the Senate floor to help out her fellow senator, and one of her aides said this was mainly Schumer's project. Schumer told me that he was not upset with Clinton and that he telephoned Republican Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma to say there were no hard feelings.

Earmarks are routinely approved for powerful legislators such as Schumer, a member of the Senate Democratic leadership. The Woodstock million lost, 52 to 42, after it was revealed that the museum's principal donor was a big contributor to Schumer and Clinton.

Isn't this illegal? These Dems do stuff like this all the time because the MSM pretty much ignores it.

641 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:10:30am

re: #629 FishFearMe Shoot - rainy? Ain't it supposed to be snowing up there just about now?! LOL!
Since I think we may have some tech oriented lizards aboard now, y'all might want to do a repost of your #565!

642 Perry  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:10:40am

re: #555 BenZacharia

re: #546 realwest

I stole the idea from Danger Close. Divine Post-It Notes™

download the program from post-it, little stickies on you PC desktop

Thank you all for the heads up and ideas. I added this list to the little folder where I keep certain Scriptures I like to go through as well as family & friends' requests. I firmly believe we do the best thing we can do when we pray for another.

643 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:11:08am

re: #15 Charles

My thoughts and prayers go out to your mom and you and your family. I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that you've got a large community of folks who are here for your support if you need it, so don't hesitate to call on us if you need help.

That's one of the reasons I've chosen to remain anonymous and don't give out too many details about my personal life. There are simply too many people who might use that stuff against me or my family personally. I don't need the headaches associated with being outed (although if someone were to dig deep enough, they'd figure out who I was - being online for something like 20 years will do that). A few people know my true identity, and for the most part they've been quite discreet about it.

644 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:12:39am

re: #639 vxbush

re: #636 realwest

Yikes; no disrespect meant, and thanks for the correction, real. I saw Charles' note but I didn't see BenZ's.

re: #635 Thanos

Except that it's a laptop, and those suckers are pretty hard to get apart and back together correctly unless you know how to do it. If it were a Pismo, I could do it. But not the new Macbook Pros.

So I have to wait.

Ah, verily doth laptops sucketh for drive problems.

645 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:13:39am

re: #640 NJDhockeyfan

Nothing illegal there unless you can find that there was a quid pro quo.

re: #615 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I doubt most Americans could find Iran on a map - possibly that same 70+ percent.

646 EC Marm  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:14:33am

re: #547 JammieWearingFool
So sorry to hear that. My own wife was wracked up pretty badly for the past two weeks. Every day was another trip to the hospital or doctors office. In addition to running to the drug store multiple times, grocery shopping, cooking meals for her, filling the tub for her, doing the laundry, washing dishes, delivering cups of tea, changing sheets, getting her in and out of bed or car, ad infinitum. She kept thanking me as if I was doing something unusual. I finally said, "Stop. Remember when we promised 'for better or worse, in sickness and health?' - well I wasn't some temporary promise. You'll get better." And she has.

Let us know how she is doing. I've never had much success with prayers, but there's bound to be someone around here with some pull 'upstairs'.

647 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:14:52am

Did somebody already put up Robert Spencer's speech at the CounterJihad Summit? I'm listening to it now on Gates of Vienna. Caution - It's 44 minutes.

648 vxbush  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:15:11am

re: #644 Thanos

Indeed. Thankfully, I bought the extended warranty with this sucker because I can't do the work myself. So it's covered, but the delay hurts. I even blogged about it, and I usually try not to blog about personal stuff.

649 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:15:18am

re: #628 vxbush

Seems that you're not the only person having probs with installing Leopard.

650 storagemanager  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:15:29am
Iran will host the second meeting of the Association of Asian Parliaments for Peace (AAPP) with participation of representatives from 40 parliaments in the next three weeks, the vice speaker said on Saturday.

Speaking to a group of foreign ambassadors currently visiting Qazvin, Mohammad-Hassan Aboutorabi said that holding such meetings will strengthen solidarity among states.

The MP added that the expansion of economic, political and cultural ties with other countries will bolster the power of the Islamic country.

Relying on the two principles of democracy and religion-oriented policy, the Islamic Republic of Iran has now stood up to the global arrogance, he noted.

Aboutorabi underlined that the Islamic Republic of Iran is proud of holding elections once per year with massive participation of people during three decades after its establishment.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

651 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:15:42am

Check out the Tom Lantos link I posted above, I want to say "RIGHT ON!" -- but at the same time he's insulting allies in the war in Afghanistan at the time they are debating pulling their troops out.

652 FishFearMe  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:16:59am

Re-post: #547 JammieWearingFool

Best wishes for your Beloved and for hayseed, Mrs. hayseed and Sister Mildred.

Maybe there is some way someone (not me, I am too computer-stupid) can create a private site that lists Lizards, family members of Lizards and F.O.Z's (Friends of Lizards) who are in need of our prayers...kinda like a Prayer Group where we can add our thoughts and wishes for their well-being. Just a thought.

:

653 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:17:31am

re: #634 storagemanager Yes, unlike that idjit
natemannq - we are good friends.
But, I gotta say, I asked you first!
What do we do?

654 vxbush  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:18:26am

re: #649 lawhawk

Actually, I've been reading up on that. I read through MacFixIt.com's web site talking about the problems folks were having, and what was described there didn't freak me out much.

Most of the problems seem to be related to doing a straight upgrade of the existing system, which is a bad idea. Doing an archive and install is much safer, and was what I had planned to do on my machine and what I will do on my husband's.

655 vxbush  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:19:14am

re: #652 FishFearMe

I could go for that. I've got my prayer list for church and family; lizards could be another category (although I can't imagine explaining that to some of the ladies at church).

656 zmdavid  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:19:22am

re: #615 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Most Americans denounce Iran sanctions Iran's PressTV -

According to a poll conducted by the C.SPAN television network, 76 percent of participants felt that sanctions would not limit Iran's peaceful nuclear activities.

I call BS, Ron Paul!...both aforementioned.


That's interesting spin - it sounds to me like most Americans think harsher measures are called for.

657 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:19:31am
658 FishFearMe  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:19:34am

re: #649 lawhawk

BTW!

Congrats to Lawhawk for being named one of the Top 20(?) websites for news! Sorry, I lost the link. But congrats are in order!

659 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:19:34am

re: #638 Miss Trixie
Ya know, it's not fun to play games on an older guy - I think you owe me at least a smootch and probably a big hug, too!

660 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:20:00am

Good morning, all. I see that Charles & his Mom go on my Divine Sticky-Note™ for Evening family prayers...

Anything else of note I shouldn't have speed-read past?

661 Ma Sands  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:20:58am

Ahhh... :) --my beloved friend Polly just sent this to me, and I cannot resist sharing it... :) ...she sent it with the comment: "Oh may it be what next year holds!"

Political Joke: Old Man and the Marine

One sunny day in 2008, an old Man approached the White House from Pennsylvania Avenue, where he had been sitting on a park bench.

He spoke to the Marine standing guard and said,"I would like to go in and speak with President Hillary Clinton." The Marine replied,"Sir, Mrs. Clinton is not president and does not reside here." The old man said,"Okay," and walked away.

The following day the same man approached the White House and spoke to the same Marine,"I would like to go in and meet with President Hillary Clinton," The Marine again told the man,"Sir, as I said yesterday, Mrs. Clinton is not the president and does not reside here. The old man thanked him again and walked away.

The next day, the same man approached the same marine and said,"I would like to go in and meet with President Hillary Clinton.: The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man and said, "Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been asking to speak with Mrs. Clinton. I've told you that Mrs. Clinton is not the president and doesn't reside here. Don't you understand?"

The old man replied,"Oh, I understand you fine, I just love hearing the answer!"

The Marine snapped to attention, saluted and said,"See you tomorrow.

662 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:21:30am

re: #639 {vxbush} No problem - Other than you're laptop, how're y'all doing this morning?
Oh and btw, wth is a "Pismo"?!

663 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:23:20am

Foo Fighters?

Oh, yes. Must have been the FNDT.

Hi {realwest.}

664 FishFearMe  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:23:21am

re: #655 vxbush

LOL...No Lizrad Ladies in your church? Are you a Potestant? We have Lizard Ladies all through the Catholic Church. It's just a well-kept secret, as they are our Means to Conquer the World!

665 vxbush  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:23:40am

re: #662 realwest

A little sleepy, and a little bit of a headache, but otherwise okay.

A "Pismo" is what the old Macintosh PowerBooks were called. I can't tell you where that name came from, though. I'm sure someone knows.

666 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:23:51am

re: #640 NJDhockeyfan Good morning - I hate to tell ya this, but it ain't just the Dems (well, maybe with respect to Woodstock) but the Repub's do this shit all the time, too.
Why else would someone give tons of money to a candidate (other than those rare occasions when we honestly believe that a particular candidate might do some good, I mean)?

667 vxbush  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:24:39am

re: #664 FishFearMe

Well, I'm sure that they would support the lizards and Charles, if they knew who he was and what the blog does. But many ladies in my group aren't into blogs and some don't even have computers.

668 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:25:41am

re: #663 {J.D.} Hey J.D.! How are y'all doing this morning? Is your arm getting better?
And also - where are ya this morning? LOL!

669 Ma Sands  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:26:48am

re: #15 Charles

...if you're the praying sort, my mother could use your prayers. She's been diagnosed with liver cancer, has already had one operation, and is now going through chemotherapy.


Charles, one beautiful thing about livers, is that they grow themselves a new one, with the slightest bit left over or re-implanted... :)

Praying for sure; for you, too.

670 natemannq  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:27:19am

re: #653 realwest

So instead of responding to my answer to YOUR question, you derogatorily refer to me in the third person to someone else?

Shall I consider that concession of defeat?

671 Lively  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:27:39am

re: #664 FishFearMe

re: #655 vxbush

LOL...No Lizrad Ladies in your church? Are you a Potestant? We have Lizard Ladies all through the Catholic Church. It's just a well-kept secret, as they are our Means to Conquer the World!

I thought the Pope opposed the war? I used to go to Christian forums, but they are all so anti-war and God doesn't want us to kill stuff...that I stopped going. I'd rather be here with the atheists who will fight.

672 ornery elephant  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:28:27am

Telling?

These terrorists’ love for Hillary mirrors their hatred for her leading GOP rival, Rudy Giuliani.

“If I had the occasion to meet him I would hurt him,” said Ramadan Adassi, a West Bank Al Aqsa leader. “For the sake of the American people, Giuliani shouldn’t be elected.”

“Giuliani doesn’t deserve to live or even to be mentioned,” said Al Aqsa’s Ala Senakreh. “He hates Palestinians and we hate him.”

Al Aqsa’s Abu Hamed said Giuliani “can hate Arafat and the Palestinians, but he knows that nobody is hated in the world more than his leadership, his party, his president, and his Zionist friends.”

Why the hard feelings? Perhaps because Giuliani has snipped terrorists’ bomb wires for 31 years.

Link...

673 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:28:56am

Wow, India is going to town on putting Jihadis in Jail for live, this makes forty three life sentences by my count as outcome of the Coimbature Bomb Trials.

674 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:28:59am

re: #663 J.D. Oh, and I ought to point out to y'all Charles comment #15 waaay above on this thread and BenZ's #505 above also.
It's not a real happy day in Lizardland, I'm afraid.

675 FishFearMe  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:30:51am

A trip to the Golden Arches is in order...bbiam

676 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:31:11am

re: #666 realwest

re: #640 NJDhockeyfan Good morning - I hate to tell ya this, but it ain't just the Dems (well, maybe with respect to Woodstock) but the Repub's do this shit all the time, too.
Why else would someone give tons of money to a candidate (other than those rare occasions when we honestly believe that a particular candidate might do some good, I mean)?

I agree. My point was that Dems get stories like this burried in the papers, if published at all. Republicans usually get room on the front page for the same thing.

Not that this is something new or anything.

677 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:31:39am

re: #659 realwest

re: #638 Miss Trixie
Ya know, it's not fun to play games on an older guy - I think you owe me at least a smootch and probably a big hug, too!

Such a shameless flirt! :D

678 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:34:26am

*sniff*sniff*

What's that smell?

679 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:34:27am

re: #668 {realwest}
Well, I'm finally getting shoulder impingement and thoracic outlet syndromes under control and now starting on getting rhomboid syndrome under control. I hang out a lot in physical therapy and doctor's offices, which I know you can relate to. [doggone preposition in the wrong place] But besides all that, I'm fabulous! LOL!

BTW, I'm home in FL.
Where in the world are you?

680 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:34:45am

re: #670 natemannq NO, you can consider it a GAZE - I mean, for someone who's been at least lurking out here for so long, your question was, well, uninformed and not worth fighting for. IF y'all are a sock puppet out yourself then maybe we'll talk; storeagemanager and I are friends from a couple years or so ago and we periodically go through the same BS. SO him I'll answer, but I'm terribly depressed and frankly distressed at all the Lizards with problems - real life, real time, immediate problems and them I know and feel for, so have no inclination to "debate" with an obviously unarmed opponent.

681 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:35:44am

re: #646 EC Marm

re: #547 JammieWearingFool
So sorry to hear that. My own wife was wracked up pretty badly for the past two weeks. Every day was another trip to the hospital or doctors office. In addition to running to the drug store multiple times, grocery shopping, cooking meals for her, filling the tub for her, doing the laundry, washing dishes, delivering cups of tea, changing sheets, getting her in and out of bed or car, ad infinitum. She kept thanking me as if I was doing something unusual. I finally said, "Stop. Remember when we promised 'for better or worse, in sickness and health?' - well I wasn't some temporary promise. You'll get better." And she has.

Let us know how she is doing. I've never had much success with prayers, but there's bound to be someone around here with some pull 'upstairs'.

Thanks, EC. I hope everything will be OK on your end.

Wel, my wife is still young and strong, so we'll see what the results are after Tuesday. With a three-year-old, it's trying enough, and I prefer to stay optimistic and pray for the best.

I appreciate the good wishes from everyone.

682 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:35:58am

re: #658 FishFearMe

re: #649 lawhawk

BTW!

Congrats to Lawhawk for being named one of the Top 20(?) websites for news! Sorry, I lost the link. But congrats are in order!


HEY, CONGRATULATIONS lawhawk! That's quite an honor and well deserved, too!

683 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:36:37am

A Woodstock Museum, if done right, could be cool. Lifelike wax images of hippies copulating under bushes in the mud, hippies smoking joints, then and now pix of CS&N, as a useful example of what decades of drug and alcohol abuse can do, all while a voice over the museum loud speaker intines "do not eat the brown acid"...

684 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:37:10am

'intines' id French for 'intones'.

685 ubercheesehead  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:37:24am

I didn't read through the entire thread last night, and refrained from jumping into the fray, so if this is a rehash of an old idea just skip over it.

It looks like part of the problem in Europe is the adoption of the anti-Islamicization cause by some of the most unsavory elements of European society. We need to be very clear about the difference between someone who is a cobelligerent and an ally. In WWII the Soviet Union was a cobelligerent, not an ally. It really complicates things when there aren't all black hats on one side of the shooting and white hats on the other.

On another note, I heard an item on the radio yesterday that a spokesman for some Evangelical group in Europe is denying any problem exists regarding the Moslem presence in Europe. He says the Moslem population is "only" about 4% of the total population and that "this is a great opportunity for evangelism." Would that he were correct. Unless I've missed the memo, I don't see a widespread turning to Christ amongst the Moslem immigrants to Europe.

Jammie Wearing Fool: my prayers are with you and your wife.

686 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:37:36am

re: #684 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul


and 'id' means 'is'.

687 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:37:51am

/trying to distract realwest from a flame war

*smooch* *hug*

688 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:37:53am

re: #660 Cap'n DOC Hey Doc - see BenZ's #505 and there are at least 7 others who haven't said anything out here, and I ain't gonna "out" 'em if you know what I mean.

Hope y'all are doing well today.

689 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:38:16am

re: #595 realwest

Real, good morning. As I see it, the problem with pac's such as this, one or more parties tend to get uppity and nasty before they turn on another party. Currently it looks like Russia is covering Iran's back, however Putin's also been attempting to gain dominance into Mid-Eastern affairs - something the Russian's haven't done in ages. For example his trip to Iran was the first from a Soviet/Russian head-of-state since the 1940's. Yet Putin had also made regional trips in both 2005 and earlier this year in what looks to be early attempts to strike new accords to eventually replace our presence and/or strategic dominance. If the Mullah's get their Shia Crescent and we get the boot, the Mullah's sure aren't going to like the Russian's mucking about and I doubt when the Mullah's get their nuke, the Russians aren't going to like the Mullah's gentle persuasion. The problem is the mess these clowns make in between times - it'll be nasty beyond belief.

BWTHDIK

690 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:38:41am

re: #674 realwest

Oh, gosh.
re: #15 Charles
I am so very sorry to hear about your Mom. All the best to her and you and all your family.

691 ubercheesehead  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:39:11am

re: #687 Miss Trixie

/trying to distract realwest from a flame war

*smooch* *hug*


If I wasn't very happily married I would be so jealous of realwest at this point.

692 usmc1968  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:40:28am

Well, gotta go, my first born daughter is in labor as I speak. Her first and she's scared as can be.

Pray for both.

Thanks

693 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:40:59am

re: #677 Miss Trixie What's to be ashamed of? I'm a guy and you're a gorgeous lady? Hell, I'd be ashamed if I DIDN'T flirt with y'all!

694 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:41:03am

Jammie, hope all goes well for your wife, also.

695 Perry  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:43:30am

re: #692 usmc1968

Well, gotta go, my first born daughter is in labor as I speak. Her first and she's scared as can be.

Pray for both.

Thanks

Congratulations and prayers, too. Give us a shout later if you can.

696 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:44:00am

re: #658 FishFearMe

re: #649 lawhawk

BTW!

Congrats to Lawhawk for being named one of the Top 20(?) websites for news! Sorry, I lost the link. But congrats are in order!

Thanks. It was a Carnegie Mellon paper studying blogs that proved to be most cost effective in terms of reading to get an understanding of what's going on around the world.

Mine ranked #11 overall. Instapundit was #1 - well deserved.

There were quite a few others that were omitted from the rankings, including Hot Air and LGF, and I think mine has the lowest traffic of any of the others in the top 30, but to be recognized like that was very nice.

697 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:44:22am

re: #679 J.D. I'm still in North Carolina! Um what the hell does "shoulder impingement and thoracic outlet syndromes under control and now starting on getting rhomboid syndrome under control." mean? You have been hanging around too many doctors for too long!
I recognize the symptoms - used to exhibit the same sort of medicalese when they first diagnosed my cancer - but I honestly have NO IDEA what you're talking about! Please HELP! LOL!

698 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:44:45am

Labor.
*Ouch*

699 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:44:58am

re: #694 J.D.

Jammie, hope all goes well for your wife, also.

Thank you, J.D.

BTW, I don't see you around much any more. How are things?

700 Perry  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:46:18am

re: #698 J.D.

Labor.
*Ouch*


Yep. Makes the scars itch, don't it?

701 ubercheesehead  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:46:54am

re: #692 usmc1968

Well, gotta go, my first born daughter is in labor as I speak. Her first and she's scared as can be.

Pray for both.

Thanks


Happy pushing!

702 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:47:36am

re: #687 Miss Trixie Ah, and another *smooch* and *hug* back atcha, but if we keep this up, some wit out here will tell us to get a room.
And there ain't no flame war about to break out here, trust me on this.
I'd never get that lucky this early in the day.

703 M. Bensson-Levi  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:47:49am

Test

704 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:47:54am

re: #15 Charles

I'm so sorry to hear this, Charles. You and your mom will be in my thoughts and prayers.

705 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:50:02am

re: #651 Thanos

Thanos, those 'allies'(if I must) of ours have just refused any increase to Nato troop levels in Afghanistan with some(if not all) looking to make a hasty exit regardless. Lanto's could have pee'd on their pants leg and it wouldn't have affected one damned thing(except they'd have a wet pant leg) - in fact I wish he had.

706 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:51:19am

Hey! Wow! I just got a letter that says I'm part of the Congressional Order of Merit...


wait a minute...

oh.

they want money.


:)

However silly these cash campaigns for the elections next year might seem, the Republicans in congress are seriously strapped for cash, and we've now seen the effect of the Dems running congress. I am going to send some congresscritters some cash and recommend you do as well, they need it desperately, and we need congress back.

707 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:52:30am

re: #697 realwest
Lemme just say this much...you don't want any of them singularly, much less collectively. I have one more month of PT and if that doesn't get rid of this, then the answer is surgery.

How are you doing?

708 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:53:05am

re: #705 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

re: #651 Thanos

Thanos, those 'allies'(if I must) of ours have just refused any increase to Nato troop levels in Afghanistan with some(if not all) looking to make a hasty exit regardless. Lanto's could have pee'd on their pants leg and it wouldn't have affected one damned thing(except they'd have a wet pant leg) - in fact I wish he had.

I'm pretty sure you are right.

709 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:53:19am

Nothing to be ashamed about, realwest. I'm very flattered at the attention. :D

usmc

Good luck and hope all goes well. Someone once said that giving birth was like pushing a watermelon through a key hole. Yikes!

:)

710 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:55:36am

re: #689 aboo-Hoo-Hoo Oh I agree - though I AM surprised that, given that the USSR spent TEN YEARS killing and butchering, deliberately, women and children in Afghanistan, that the Mullah's could still do business with Russia. And if the Israeli strike really was enabled by that new system the Israeli's developed (can't remember the name, another senior moment!) that defeats ALL anti-aircraft radar systems and learns new radar systems while on the way to the site, some of them Mullah's - since they could never credit Israel with anything - are gonna be pretty damned pissed at Putin and Russia's Anti-Aircraft systems on which they've spent MUCHO bucks.
And of course Putin's delaying assistance to Iran on it's reactor isn't really due to lack of payment, either!

Uh, btw what the heck does "BWTHDIK" mean?

711 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:57:21am

re: #692 usmc1968 Did so the minute I read your comment Marine! Best wishes to y'all!

712 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:58:30am

re: #710 realwest

But what the heck do I know. ;)

713 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:58:36am
714 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:58:45am

re: #699 JammieWearingFool

I'm hanging in there...thinking positive thoughts...ya know...

re: #700 Perry

re: #698 J.D.

Labor.
*Ouch*


Yep. Makes the scars itch, don't it?


LOL
Yep...that it does. I haven't seen you in awhile. Well, I haven't seen anyone in awhile, actually. All's well with you, I hope?

715 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:59:04am

re: #696 lawhawk Congratulations, again, lawhawk!
Um, do you have any idea why Hot Air and LGF were left off?!

716 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:59:13am

realwest

But What The Hell Do I Know.

Sheesh.

:P

717 jcm  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:00:40am

Ah! cup of joe, warm fire, and the SMDT.
Morning Lizards.

718 lowandslow  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:01:27am

Bryan at Hot Air has part II of What is Islamo-Fascism? up and you have to see it to believe it, mind boggling stupidity.

719 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:01:33am

Congratulations, lawhawk.
That's some pretty impressive company you're in, there.
Way to go!

720 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:01:39am

Morning jcm.

721 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:03:26am

re: #705 aboo-Hoo-Hoo Yes. And it's one of the reasons why I think NATO is and ought to be dead - to be replaced with another entity not devoted, more or less, to Europe's defense. Screw Europe, let them pay for their own defense.
As to Afghanistan, however, we ought not paint with too broad a brush - the Danes and the Canadians have truly been giving it their all.
The rest of the NATO countries (possibly except GB) and especially Germany, can go sit on a pointed stick for all I care. I would never go back to war, hot or cold, for those sonsabitches ever again.

722 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:04:51am

Wait!

We have a SMDT now, too?

Well, OK then...

723 mama winger  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:05:00am

Prayer for Charles's mama :

Father God Almighty, our Good Shepherd, - You gather the lambs in Your arms and carry them close to Your loving heart. We commend to your loving care this good woman, mother of Charles. Relieve her pain, guard her from all fear, and restore to her Your gifts of life and strength. Guide the doctors and the nurses charged with her care, and bring her back into the bosom of her family in good health.

Lord, have mercy.
Amen.

724 ubercheesehead  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:05:06am

re: #721 realwest

re: #705 aboo-Hoo-Hoo Yes. And it's one of the reasons why I think NATO is and ought to be dead - to be replaced with another entity not devoted, more or less, to Europe's defense. Screw Europe, let them pay for their own defense.
As to Afghanistan, however, we ought not paint with too broad a brush - the Danes and the Canadians have truly been giving it their all.
The rest of the NATO countries (possibly except GB) and especially Germany, can go sit on a pointed stick for all I care. I would never go back to war, hot or cold, for those sonsabitches ever again.


Come on realwest, how do you really feel about the Europeans?

725 abolitionist  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:05:09am

re: #13 Charles

By the way, my email at c h a r l e s (at) lgf.com has been malfunctioning all afternoon for some reason, since about 2 pm. I'm trying to get it straightened out.

My websearch for lgf.com turns up things like
IP: 72.53.194.53 - lgf.com
IP: 72.53.194.53 - lionsgate.com
IP: 72.53.194.53 - Lions Gate Films - Crash
IP: 72.53.194.53 - Liongate - Investors :: Financial PR
/Clue?

Actually, another webwidget-add-on (Shazou) for Firefox shows me IP's briefly in info balloons, on mouseover of any link, along with city/country (usually); clicking its systray icon gets more detailed info (like a whois report) for currently viewed website. It can also show a Google Map. Shazou is Japanese for mapping.

[Link: addons.mozilla.org...]
It's server site needs Javascript enabled. So I tell NoScript to allow.

726 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:05:19am

E-Jihadis in India... in search of Bilal

HYDERABAD: The media fraternity went into a tizzy on Friday after learning that a picture of the alleged mastermind behind the Hyderabad blasts, Mohammed Shahid alias Bilal, was posted on a blog in which he was praised as a martyr.

Bilal's father, Abdul Waheed, a retired school teacher, told media that he could not confirm whether it was indeed Bilal's picture on the blog. "I cannot say anything," he said.

The news was much sought after following reports by a leading news website, quoting intelligence bureau sources on Thursday that Bilal was spotted in Sialkot, a border town in Pakistan in the first week of this month.

Intelligence agencies in the state and at the Centre have been repeatedly claiming that Bilal was the south India commander of Harkat-ul-Jihadi Islami (HuJI), an outfit of the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT). They alleged that he was the mastermind behind the twin blasts in the city, Mecca Masjid blast and also the blast in an Ajmer shrine.

HuJI is the group believed responsible for one of the assassination attempts on Musharraf, and they are suspect in the Bhutto attacks as well. Allied to AQ, focused on J&K, ties to the renegade old guard ISI.

727 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:06:18am

re: #721 realwest

re: #705 aboo-Hoo-Hoo Yes. And it's one of the reasons why I think NATO is and ought to be dead - to be replaced with another entity not devoted, more or less, to Europe's defense. Screw Europe, let them pay for their own defense.
As to Afghanistan, however, we ought not paint with too broad a brush - the Danes and the Canadians have truly been giving it their all.
The rest of the NATO countries (possibly except GB) and especially Germany, can go sit on a pointed stick for all I care. I would never go back to war, hot or cold, for those sonsabitches ever again.

If Rudy gets elected you will see an expansion of Nato, and a possible push for a League of Democracies.

728 EC Marm  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:06:37am

'Scuse me while I rant. Do realtors even look at weather forecasts before they schedule a showing? We're under a flood warning, the streams are rising, it's coming down in buckets, and I have a showing in one hour. The torrential rain is knocking the leaves off the trees in bushel barrel fulls, the driveway and walkways are covered, and my leaf blower is useless against wet leaves.
They treat the seller like sh*t all through the process then show up at settlement like some sort of hero to collect a check that would cover the purchase price of my first house.

/End of rant. Sorry.

729 carridine  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:06:41am

re: #665 vxbush


Pismo is a clam, as the Mac Powerbook opened and closed like a Pismo clam.

Make sense, VX?

730 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:07:24am

re: #707 {J.D.} Uh, how goes the PT (or, put less delicately, how likely is the surgery?)?
And I be ok - sorta - right now biggest bitch is my right calf - for some unknown reason it seems to get extremely tight whenever I walk about 15-20 yards and then gets a knot in it that I have to message away and it's interferring with my daily chores and whatnot.
Otherwise, knock on wood, I'm doing ok and so is Mom!

731 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:08:25am

There there, EC Marm.
There there.

;-)

732 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:08:46am

re: #683 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

A Woodstock Museum, if done right, could be cool. Lifelike wax images of hippies copulating under bushes in the mud, hippies smoking joints, then and now pix of CS&N, as a useful example of what decades of drug and alcohol abuse can do, all while a voice over the museum loud speaker intines "do not eat the brown acid"...

Don't forget the background Muzak - things like "F*** the Army!"

733 Perry  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:10:04am

re: #714 J.D.

Things are lovely, thanks. I have to act like a grownup a little more these days. Chauffeur, mainly. It's a privilege to get to come here and find out the real news succinctly, and see brilliant posters examining all the permutations. I hope your PT helps enough to avoid surgery.

734 vxbush  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:10:21am

re: #729 carridine

*light goes on*

Aaaah! Okay. That makes sense.

Okay, gotta go work on the hubby's machine. Later, folks.

735 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:11:19am

Has anyone else been bothered by FEMA's fakery? While the fed response has been pretty good, the fake presser removes whatever goodwill was created by the solid response. Heads must roll.

Also, keep this incident in mind next time someone says that the feds should be in charge of health care, or most any other part of the economy that is handled by the private sector.

Maybe that's the reason that the Democrats aren't exactly jumping all over the incident - especially because their own grandiose plans hinge on the expansion of government into health care.

736 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:12:07am

re: #688 realwest

Hey! Thanks for the heads up. I hit #505, and updated my own - with a little help from a friend. :o)

Doing okay for a Saturday. And you?

737 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:14:19am

re: #576 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

You know damned well where this is headed: Senior nurses to decide whether patients should be resuscitated

Senior nurses will be allowed to veto the resuscitation of patients under new guidelines issued yesterday by the medical profession.The British Medical Association said patients should be spared "undignified and unnecessary" attempts to revive them when there could be no realistic hope of success.

I would love to know just what it is or has ever been in nursing education (pre or post degree) that makes ANY nurse qualified to assess the "realistic hope of success."

738 mama winger  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:14:44am

re: #505 BenZacharia

Thank you BenZ. This is a handy resource .

739 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:15:02am

re: #735 lawhawk

Has anyone else been bothered by FEMA's fakery? While the fed response has been pretty good, the fake presser removes whatever goodwill was created by the solid response. Heads must roll.

Also, keep this incident in mind next time someone says that the feds should be in charge of health care, or most any other part of the economy that is handled by the private sector.

Maybe that's the reason that the Democrats aren't exactly jumping all over the incident - especially because their own grandiose plans hinge on the expansion of government into health care.

Incredibly embarrassing.

If there aren't any reporters around for the press conference, just cancel it.

Idiots.

740 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:15:54am

re: #730 realwest

Well, I've taken to takin' 15 mg of valium on top of the rest of these miserable medications now that we're going after it in a little more...shall we say painful way. I love my physical therapist; he's just great, really. He looks like a wrestler, and he doesn't want to hurt me, so when I tear up, he tears up. We're a mess, actually. lol

I don't know how likely. My choices are another month of PT (doing it), an injection that could possibly puncture my lung (not doing it), conventional surgery (not doing it), or arthroscopic surgery (I'm ready!).

Seven months never felt so long!

Are you staying well-hydrated? I mean really well?
It helps with that, you know.

741 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:16:16am

re: #735 lawhawk

Come to think of it, it reminds me a bit of the Reuters reporter who interviewed herself a few weeks back.

742 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:16:20am

re: #732 galloping granny

re: #683 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul


A Woodstock Museum, if done right, could be cool. Lifelike wax images of hippies copulating under bushes in the mud, hippies smoking joints, then and now pix of CS&N, as a useful example of what decades of drug and alcohol abuse can do, all while a voice over the museum loud speaker intines "do not eat the brown acid"...

Don't forget the background Muzak - things like "F*** the Army!"

Ayn Rand did a wonderful essay that contrasted the people and purpose at the moon launch to those a Woodstock. You should read it sometime, it's an eye opener.

743 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:16:33am
744 mama winger  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:16:43am

re: #737 galloping granny

I heard this quote once. I think it is appropriate for the BMA:

Don't go down that road.

Don't get on that bus.

It goes nowhere good.

745 Fearless Fred  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:17:05am

re: #727 Thanos

re: #721 realwest

re: #705 aboo-Hoo-Hoo Yes. And it's one of the reasons why I think NATO is and ought to be dead - to be replaced with another entity not devoted, more or less, to Europe's defense. Screw Europe, let them pay for their own defense.
As to Afghanistan, however, we ought not paint with too broad a brush - the Danes and the Canadians have truly been giving it their all.
The rest of the NATO countries (possibly except GB) and especially Germany, can go sit on a pointed stick for all I care. I would never go back to war, hot or cold, for those sonsabitches ever again.

If Rudy gets elected you will see an expansion of Nato, and a possible push for a League of Democracies.

And if Lynn Cheney's his vice president?

746 mama winger  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:17:52am

I love Lynn Cheney.

747 jcm  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:18:36am

re: #739 JammieWearingFool

re: #735 lawhawk

Has anyone else been bothered by FEMA's fakery? While the fed response has been pretty good, the fake presser removes whatever goodwill was created by the solid response. Heads must roll.

Also, keep this incident in mind next time someone says that the feds should be in charge of health care, or most any other part of the economy that is handled by the private sector.

Maybe that's the reason that the Democrats aren't exactly jumping all over the incident - especially because their own grandiose plans hinge on the expansion of government into health care.

Incredibly embarrassing.

If there aren't any reporters around for the press conference, just cancel it.

Idiots.

That's the kind of Barbara Streisand that leads to distrust, and feeds the trooffer phenomena at worst and cynical skepticism of the governments action s at best.

748 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:19:30am

re: #728 EC Marm

Well, it could be worse today: you could be the potential buyer who's schlepping around in the pouring rain.

749 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:19:34am

re: #712 aboo-Hoo-Hoo Shoot - not "knowing" something is no reason not to have an opinion on it - being out here is how I learn so much from so many extremely bright, well edcuated (formal and/or real life) folks from so many different occupations and all! And from all over the world, too - including Wisconsin, where I understand they make cheese! (wink and a nod to ubercheesehead).
Besides, not knowing anything doesn't keep other folks from posting!

750 mama winger  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:21:26am

re: #749 realwest

folks from so many different occupations and all! And from all over the world, too - including Wisconsin, where I understand they make cheese! (wink and a nod to ubercheesehead).

Hey! What am I !?!

Chopped Liver !?!


LOL! - good morning my friend :)

751 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:22:02am

Wouldn't mind that at all, but I doubt it would happen.


Also, Note the latest poster children of the paleoslime.. warning, link to enemy agitprop site.. good to monitor so you know the current tactics however.

752 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:23:34am

re: #733 Perry
Ah, Mom's Taxi. I loved doing that. *sigh*
I'm sure you do, too.
It's nice bumping into you here.
And thanks.

753 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:23:48am

re: #709 {Miss Trixie} Oh yeah? Um, how flattered are you? (checks for Charlotte Airport Timetables)!

754 Miss Trixie  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:27:16am

re: #753 realwest

re: #709 {Miss Trixie} Oh yeah? Um, how flattered are you? (checks for Charlotte Airport Timetables)!

Ha! Ain't you sweet. :D

Gotta go, luv - need a few things from the grocers. Have a real good day and I'll talk with you later. *hug*

:D

755 Ma Sands  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:27:23am

re: #723 mama winger

Good morning, mama. I am proud of you. :)

756 EC Marm  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:27:31am

re: #748 MandyManners

Well, it could be worse today: you could be the potential buyer who's schlepping around in the pouring rain.


But my house is all about enjoying the outside. Two balconies, a patio, a deck, inground spa. If I can't get them outside to see the views and appreciate the privacy, I'm sunk. It's a wacky Frank Lloyd Wright style of contemporary. Folks here on the east coast want any kind of house as long as it is a colonial. So I don't get many prospects. Frustratin'!

757 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:27:40am

re: #723 {mama winger} Amen.

Um, if y'all want to go to BenZ's #505, y'all might want to do a prayer for those listed there and of course for Ben and his wife.

758 Fearless Fred  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:28:10am

re: #735 lawhawk

Has anyone else been bothered by FEMA's fakery? While the fed response has been pretty good, the fake presser removes whatever goodwill was created by the solid response. Heads must roll.

Also, keep this incident in mind next time someone says that the feds should be in charge of health care, or most any other part of the economy that is handled by the private sector.

Maybe that's the reason that the Democrats aren't exactly jumping all over the incident - especially because their own grandiose plans hinge on the expansion of government into health care.

That's hilarious ... hilariously stupid - if that's really it ...unreal.
50 Helen Thomas's would've been better for the administration than what you say happened. Hilarious indeed. Just can't be true.

759 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:28:30am

re: #735 lawhawk

You've got that right.
Everyone needs to find a Canadian and talk to them about the healthcare system they have up there. Or a Brit. Same thing. They would trade with us in a heartbeat.

760 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:28:30am

Keith Ellison: Radical Muslim with a faulty memory.

761 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:29:23am

For Mrs. Johnson, you're in our thoughts and prayers.

The biggest controversies on LGF this week all surrounded the future of Europe. The VB dustup and Mr. Lantos' comments to the Dutch lawmakers are all part and parcel of a single truth: Islam is not killing Europe; Europe was already dead. Hitler killed Europe; he destroyed its soul, he destroyed its culture, he destroyed the will of the peoples of Europe to carry on their way of life, he destroyed the idea of a better future for mankind and the ultimately destroy the notion the different peoples can live together in peace.

Current immigration to Europe threatening an Islamic future is the result of European low birthrates, which in turn are the product of societies, which no longer value themselves and so did not bother to procreate. To bring children into this world, parents have to believe in the societies into which they bring them. Europe's young adults do not believe they have a future.

And they don't because Europe's political gravity has three wrong attractions: communist totalitarianism, fascism and Eurosocialism. Each offers offers all of the benefits of the soullessness while learning none of the lessons of history. Modern communism retains all of Stalin's blueprint: same policies, same promises, forget the fact it doesn't work. Nazis promise to get Hitler right too as is putting criminal bigots was a ever a wise idea.

So Europe's attempt to save its soul has been the embrace of a the third lodestone: a European socialist superstate. It does prevent the Nazis were communists from seizing power, it does so for a highly destructive price: the continued erosion of European society, its most product citizens leave coupled with the influx of the largest migration into Europe since the Roman Empire. It has created a guardian that does not defend her people. It is hard not to have contempt for system of government whose core values embody the same indifferent anti-Semitism that did nothing while 10,000 trains of Jews rumbled through the heart of Europe to their doom. They show their remorse and steal votes from the fascists by hating Israel.

They give away benefits they cannot afford to their citizens and then invite newcomers to move in to get free homes and cars to live as burdensome unintegrated unproductive dependents of the state.

While I'm mindful of Europe's importance as a trading partner and semi-open market for American goods and services, Europe's future as a dependent ongoing burden to America is obvious. Without American involvement and military presence, Europe will soon find some war to bring us back to fight; so we leave just enough troops there to keep that idea forever out of their heads. But sooner or later, Europe's policies will elect fascists, communists or anti-Americans that will demand our troops leave so they can start the next war. It's easy to be that cynical about them, because nowhere in Europe's leadership can one find anyone addressing Europe's broken social contract.

The only hope for Europe's future is the creation of a new social contract that once and for all tears down the social barriers of European society, insists upon a vibrant democracy coupled with true economic liberty and independence. It is the latter point, that is critical to European reformation, because only societies that require you to be productive and encourage you to lead the most fulfilling lives possible succeed. The success of postwar Korea, Israel and Taiwan are real world examples of societies dedicated to maximizing the human potential of their citizens. They are the real models for future success.

The handwriting is on the wall for Old Europe. Hoping that neofascist anti-immigrant groups will somehow save her people is a vain hope. Europe needs intelligent immigration, people who wish to become Europeans and leave forever behind their previous ties, under a social contract that restores human dynamism to the continent.

762 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:29:38am

re: #746 mama winger

I love Lynn Cheney.

Me too. She is one of the finest examples of Southern womanhood we have produced in a very long time. Beats Laura hands down, nice as Laura is, and mops the floor with the likes of Shrill Hill and Pelosi. A real class act. And I wish she would run for President.

763 mama winger  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:30:27am

re: #755 Ma Sands

Hey there Ma!

I was going to drop you an email a little later, after I have some breakfast.

I need nutrition. Durn cat kept me up last night howling at who knows what.

/ Why do I have so many pets? :0

764 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:30:36am

JERUSALEM POST:

Rice confers with Carter and Clinton
JPost.com Staff , THE JERUSALEM POST Oct. 27, 2007

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has sought the advice of former US presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton ahead of a planned Middle East peace parley scheduled to take place in Annapolis, Maryland, in November or December.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Saturday that Rice met with Carter this week. The two reportedly discussed the peace talks Carter brokered between Israel and Egypt in the late 1970s. The White House called the meeting with Carter positive and "to the point."

Rice has also spoken with Clinton, who led the peace process between Israel and the Palestinians in the 1990s. "[Secretary of State] Rice is trying to learn from others what can be done and how their experience can be adapted to today's situation," McCormack said, adding that Rice placed great emphasis on "learning from the past."

The State Department also reported that Rice has recently conferred with former UN Middle East envoy Dennis Ross, as well as her predecessors James Baker, Henry Kissinger, and Madeline Albright.

Rice has stated that she intends to devote the rest of the 14 months remaining in her term to establishing an independent Palestinian state while ensuring Israel's security.

765 mama winger  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:31:00am

re: #762 galloping granny

Smart as a whip, that woman.

766 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:31:06am

re: #760 JammieWearingFool

Keith Ellison: Radical Muslim with a faulty memory.

Heh, Keith Ellison... the log in Minnesota's eye.

767 Fearless Fred  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:32:16am

re: #735 lawhawk

Has anyone else been bothered by FEMA's fakery?

Nice blog btw.

768 mama winger  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:33:39am

re: #757 realwest

I did see that post - wonderful that he put it all together like that. The less time I have to spend thinkin', the more time I can spend prayin'.

:)

gotta eat now - brb

769 Ma Sands  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:34:02am

re: #763 mama winger

Good. I will look forward to it. :)
Gotta go out & buy some clothespins as a wedding gift for a dear friend getting married today...I think every newly wed couple needs that old fashioned homey thing around the house somewhere... :)

770 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:34:15am
771 lowandslow  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:35:13am

re: #760 JammieWearingFool

Keith Ellison: Radical Muslim with a faulty memory.


I read that earlier, what a moron.

"It was a dark and stormy night,"

772 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:35:16am

re: #762 galloping granny

Me too. She is one of the finest examples of Southern womanhood we have produced in a very long time.

Technically, she's not Southern -- she's from Wyoming...

773 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:35:29am

re: #765 mama winger

re: #762 galloping granny

Smart as a whip, that woman.

And she can kick the stuffing out of some of the biggest names in the media with one hand tied behind her back and a great big smile on her face the entire time - then walk away without so much as a wrinkle.

774 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:36:34am

What is Wyoming south of?

775 jcm  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:37:15am

re: #766 The Albatross

re: #760 JammieWearingFool

Keith Ellison: Radical Muslim with a faulty memory.

Heh, Keith Ellison... the log in Minnesota's eye.

Just a long days night is all, maybe a little trippin'.

776 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:37:54am

re: #756 EC Marm

re: #748 MandyManners


Well, it could be worse today: you could be the potential buyer who's schlepping around in the pouring rain.

But my house is all about enjoying the outside. Two balconies, a patio, a deck, inground spa. If I can't get them outside to see the views and appreciate the privacy, I'm sunk. It's a wacky Frank Lloyd Wright style of contemporary. Folks here on the east coast want any kind of house as long as it is a colonial. So I don't get many prospects. Frustratin'!

Oh, I understand now. That *is* frustrating. However, I'm sure that the realtor will expound on the outside life-style and the views. Buyers know it doesn't rain all the time.

777 jcm  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:37:57am

re: #774 J.D.

What is Wyoming south of?

Canada ;-P

778 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:37:57am

re: #774 J.D.

What is Wyoming south of?

Canada

779 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:38:02am

re: #771 lowandslow

re: #760 JammieWearingFool

Keith Ellison: Radical Muslim with a faulty memory.


I read that earlier, what a moron.

"It was a dark and stormy night,"

Now THAT is funny! Also, did you note that he called Wellstone's wife his "partner"?

Who was it again who elected this lying fool?

780 jcm  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:38:24am

re: #778 christheprofessor

Look at our timestamps LOL

781 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:38:38am

re: #762 galloping granny

re: #746 mama winger


I love Lynn Cheney.

Me too. She is one of the finest examples of Southern womanhood we have produced in a very long time. Beats Laura hands down, nice as Laura is, and mops the floor with the likes of Shrill Hill and Pelosi. A real class act. And I wish she would run for President.


Wyoming, a Southern state?

782 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:39:08am

re: #777 jcm

Get outta my head!

/please ignore the naked midgets...

783 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:40:07am

re: #780 jcm

re: #778 christheprofessor

Look at our timestamps LOL

Yes, I saw that (eerie sounds eminating from the computer)... ;)

784 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:40:10am

More than just Canada...

You can't fool me.

;-P

785 jcm  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:40:33am

re: #782 christheprofessor

re: #777 jcm

Get outta my head!

/please ignore the naked midgets...

I was wondering were those came from.

786 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:40:42am

And please, Mrs. Cheney spells her name Lynne.

787 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:40:47am

Some Saturday silliness... Darth Vader in Love

Have a great day.

788 Thanos  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:40:53am

RoP strikes in Thailand and the real backlash is getting ugly.

Police found the decapitated body of an unidentified man in a village known for Islamic militancy in Thailand's strife-torn south on Saturday.

In a separate incident, a bomb exploded next to two busy roadside restaurants, killing a woman and wounding 14 other people, police said.

Police Lt. Paen Promdee said the body was found in the Nong Chik district of Pattani province early Saturday morning, but that the head was missing. Paen blamed Muslim insurgents for his death.

Also Saturday, a bomb exploded between a restaurant and a coffee shop in Narathiwat province's Rangae district, triggered by a mobile phone, police Col. Chalerm Yingyong said.

Chalerm indicated that police also suspected Muslim insurgents in that attack.

The headless body was a muslim.

789 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:41:03am

re: #737 galloping granny

You and me both and these's no need to even go into the gruesome details of their socialized death care plans ala the policies of, I believe, Brussels. As a friend once said, 'Looking to die? Visit Europe.' He's Fwench and boy do I whizz him off spelling it that way but believe me the come-backs tend to be a bitch. :)

790 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:41:26am

re: #761 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Europe died at Auschwitz.

791 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:41:27am

re: #781 newsjunkie_ky

Hey, there! Hope things are drying up, finally!

792 Tiburon  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:41:42am

Dear Charles, and Lizards,
I've just scanned the 700 comments that followed Charles' mentioning his Mom's situation, and to my surprise, there's been no flood of advice towards therapeutic alternatives.
("Advice is 'useless'" as the Yiddish expression goes - but in hope of not being thought making 'casual comment'...I lost my partner Didi on Sept 8th to neuroendocrine small cell cancer (likely lung primary, never confirmed).)
A little quick review to give backstory to what I'm about to link. Here in Canada, in Ontario - state (provincial) medicare, where if a doctor does not practice the strict 'approved for lowest statistical common denominator' Medicine as determined by the government, he/she'd be prosecuted and lose licence. That is, you cannot privately hire a doctor legally in Ontario. What this means is that cancer patients, have no point of access to a world of cutting-edge medical treatments without travelling abroad (ie USA) and privately paying. Further, generally speaking, supplementary insurance here covers only the state-approved treatment protocols, in turn generally 10 year old techiques.

People are dying because of this, daily.

It took us 7 months and 2000 hrs online to find out what was going on.

So, here goes, for all to consider who are dealing with recnac: -
1) there has been NO major progress in treatment of the big killer cancers in the last 20 years, with the standard protocols of chemo/radiation. While certain great advances have been achieved in particular cancers, especially childhood leukemias, etc, most of the longer term survivals are a statistical artifact, led by earlier diagnosis.
2) There are schools of thought as to what 'causes cancer', immunological, environmental, metabolic, etc, but in the end a MULTIMODAL approach is the only best way - because we all have cancer, constantly producing thousands of cancerous cells every minute, which the body keeps in balance/check through natural defences.
3) Depending on statistical method, either one in two or one in three of us will face a life-threatening cancer in our lifetimes. Them's the odds.

While we lost my Diane, what we discovered, had we known earlier, may have given us a chance, despite that hers was very aggressive, very deadly. (NB: - the docs refer to her type as 'very responsive to chemo', but they don't mention it does nothing to extend life statistically - you just get to see your tumors respond, then they come back fast and harder and you die) There are well over 200 types of cancer, and some say that each cancer is like a fingerprint, unique to the individual.

I've become recognized here as intensely knowledgeable about the field (take that as you will), seven doctors have told me I know more than they'll ever know (not oncologists, that's another story).
So, here goes. This is the most important info I've gleaned, and "what the Doctors won't tell you": -

Go to Life Extention Foundation, and read all the cancer sections.
Go to the Moss Reports, and immediately order a report on your cancer.

I'd have saved 4 bitter and fearful months had I done so.

In our case we were a couple of weeks away from IV Vit C at the Brightspot, and getting Kangliate from China. We'd included Low-Dose Naltrexone too, it works for most, for Didi, no. - Don't accept BS from your oncologist that these or the 100+ alternatives interfere with chemo/rad.
Consider also chronomodulated chemotherapy per Dr. Block in Illinois

If you lose hope you'll die, so pray alot but also remember we all gotta go sometime.

793 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:42:31am

Charles-
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your mom. And also all those others posted earlier.

794 Ma Sands  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:43:17am

re: #786 newsjunkie_ky

I will never forget that, having seen it here. :)

795 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:45:07am

re: #791 J.D.

re: #781 newsjunkie_ky

Hey, there! Hope things are drying up, finally!


We got 5" of rain this week. It has been so dreary.
How are things in S. FL?

796 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:46:59am

Prayers on the way up for Charles's mother...

797 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:50:45am

re: #728 EC Marm Shoot EC, I feel sorry for y'all having a showing in that kind of weather. If it's any comfort they're probably won't show up anyway! LOL!
Actually, from my personal experience, anyone who show's up today will be a serious, potential purchaser and will know about the weather related problems and frankly, won't care.

798 J.D.  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:50:55am

re: #795 newsjunkie_ky
Well, I know you needed it, but not so fast!
I was up for 4 days, left this past Tuesday when it all began.
It's actually cool and gray here right now. Well, it says it's 80°, but it feels cool. Hmmm...

799 lowandslow  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:52:32am

re: #792 Tiburon

Wow. thanks and condolences.

800 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:54:59am

re: #736 Cap'n DOC I'm doing ok DOC - sorry I was unexpectedly away for a while there, I'm doing ok, cept for this damn right calf muscle, son of a you know what keeps tightening up on me when I walk just 20 yards or so. Hurts like hell, but it's (I hope) just a minor annoyance at this point.

801 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 8:58:16am

re: #740 {J.D.} sorry, got called away unexpectedly - it sounds like you have a plan and I'd be surprised if it needs surgery, that it isn't something they can't do arthorscopically - hell they take out gall bladders that way now! LOL!
Um, what did y'all mean by "Are you staying well-hydrated? I mean really well?
It helps with that, you know."
Helps with what? It's the only part of my body that hurts so I don't think it's dehydration.

802 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:00:07am

re: #743 Iron Fist Hey bro' - what do you mean, by "don't let Helen Thomas in."? Hell let her in, just don't let her OUT!
How are y'all doing and do I owe y'all an e-mail?

803 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:00:29am

re: #798 J.D.
I called you a nasty name under my breath. LOL.
It is in the 50s. I enjoy cooler weather but hate the overcast skies.
Glad you left before the deluge. I was hoping some would leave us and head out to S. CA.

804 Ma Sands  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:00:47am

re: #792 Tiburon

...If you lose hope you'll die, so pray alot but also remember we all gotta go sometime...

Well, Lazarus went, then came and went again... :)
And Noah's grandfather didn't have to go the regular way --neither did Elijah... :)

805 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:03:38am

re: #750 {mama winger} Shoot I KNEW as I hit post that you'd show up and put me in my place! (and I don't mean at the head of the table, either!).
I'm doing ok - just some usual aches and pains. Geez I HATE getting older. Damnit.
That was a lovely prayer, btw, and I "Amen-ed" it too.
How are you doing this morning? Whatcha having for breakfast (with your cheese, I mean!)!

806 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:05:29am

J.D.
What is going on with you? (re: 740)
I'm heading over to new thread.

807 ubercheesehead  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:05:48am

re: #750 mama winger

re: #749 realwest


folks from so many different occupations and all! And from all over the world, too - including Wisconsin, where I understand they make cheese! (wink and a nod to ubercheesehead).

Hey! What am I !?!

Chopped Liver !?!


LOL! - good morning my friend :)

Well, yes, we make yummy liverwurst in Wisconsin, too! ;)

Have you noticed since Jefferson Meats was bought out by Con Agra that the logo is the same, but in the little map of Wisconsin it says something like "Wisconsin quality made in Kansas." I wonder how Toto feels about that?

808 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:06:17am

re: #792 Tiburon

I have always been cautious against crossing over from empathy to diagnostician because it has been my experience that though it can be well intentioned, it can be misinterpreted, misrepresented, or can sometimes be adversely indicated.

Alternative therapies are out there and some positive results are being reported. For example at a sports/fitness conference a couple of years ago, for the first time in the history of American medical practice, it was found that about half of the people who are prone to or have been diagnosed with chronic illness have begun seeking out alternative non prescription methods to inhibit, cure, or prevent recurrence. Those of us in the health and wellness arena have been very encouraged by this as the best defense for chronic illness is a healthy immune system.

809 Tiburon  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:08:48am

ADDENDUM to #792: -
Consider metabolic analysis (one of the ION Panels) and supplementation as directed by Metametrix in Georgia and Metabolic Maintenance in Oregon.
Consider VERY seriously a Drug Resistance Assay before putting cytotoxins (chemo) into your body. Doesn't it just turn out that 20% of folks' cancers are fully resistant to particular chemo combos - that is, you get poisoned, destroy your leukocytes, lose your hair and go through hell, and the cancer is unaffected. Several leading edge firms do this, but we found the excellent Genzyme Genetics in LA - they made the dx that the oncologists here couldn't/wouldn't do...not cheap but had Didi lived they were offering a particular chemo/rad course, and didn't it just turn out that what they suggested she would have been 88% resistant to...whereas the DRA also showed a reasonable response with a different combo. Most oncologists don't bother with this - they simply try a mix, if it doesn't work, too bad, too sad, try another - while your metabolism falls apart.
As Thomas Szasze has postulated, obscene, really- the UNHOLY ALLIANCE between BIG PHARM and BIG MEDICINE!.
Also, it is vanishingly rare that more than FOUR (4), repeat FOURFOUR rounds of chemo make ANY DIFFERNCE in outcome. If your oncologist wants to do more, make him give you the proof in peer-reviewed studies.

Fight Fight Fight! You can sleep when you're dead. And do Reiki, and lost of Acupuncture and Electroacupuncture, and Yoga Pranayama (breathing) and by G-d LAUGH by any and all means!

810 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:10:01am

re: #759 {J.D.} YOU don't get it. AND APPARENTLY neither do most LGFer's out here.
The Congresscritters who'd pass any kind of socialized medicine don't give a damn - Congressional Health Care won't be affected (they'll make sure of that) and Congressional Health Care is the best in the World, bar none.Covers everything, including dental, no insurance premiums and no deductables.
AND they get to keep it when they retire or get voted out of office.
CONGRESS won't be affected by socialized medicine AT ALL.

811 nyc redneck  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:11:16am

i just read abt. charles' mom's diagnosis and everyone else here who is suffering. i am so sorry for these heavy burdens. i will pray for you all. miracles are everywhere. that i believe w/all my heart.

812 realwest  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:12:09am

re: #774 J.D. Canada.

813 abolitionist  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:14:36am

re: #725 abolitionist

Oops. The IP/city/country display fn on mouseover of links is not by the Shazou plugin for Firefox; it's by HostIP.info Geolocation Plugin.
[Link: addons.mozilla.org...]

814 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:15:29am

re: #761 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Another most excellent post from AG.

815 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:22:58am

re: #808 The Albatross

In hindsight, I will say additionally that in my father-in-laws case, in addition to his chemo, we encouraged a low fat diet rich in fiber as he endured the chemo (to counter IBS like side effects). Post antibiotic and through his recovery we balanced his system with enzymes to aid in his ability to breakdown his food and probiotics to reestablish his natural flora after his treatments. He has done remarkably well but has not yet had his 3 month recheck after the chemo. His doctors were astounded because he suffered no hair loss and only lost about 35 pounds through the course of his surgery and chemo treatments (6 months).

I was bold enough to suggest it because I had a 15 year old Chow Chow who's kidneys had shut down. Our vet encouraged us to try enzyme treatments - he called it "Doggy Dialysis". I was thrilled when he was able to recover and be a regular dog, active and well. We were able to get him an extra 2 and a half more years with kidneys that were only operating at around 15%. It is my hope that one day kidney patients will be able to use this treatment rather than have to endure stints, the risk of infection, and dialysis.

But we chose, to explore hydration, nutrition, and flora replacement alternatives for my father-in-law... perhaps because many others in our family thought it was a bunch of bunkum. It did ease the side effects of chemo treatments and keep him able to absorb his nutrition and stay hydrated. It kept him function at a higher level.

But there are many avenues to explore... an old adage that floats around medical facilities is, "A doctor diagnoses and treats an illness. But if you want to learn how to live as best as you are able though the illness, ask a nurse."

I have found this to be very true.

816 ubercheesehead  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:29:53am

re: #774 J.D.

What is Wyoming south of?

Montana...Alberta...NW Territories...melting polar ice cap.

817 Tiburon  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:34:10am

re: #808 The Albatross

Yes, it's a good thing, the empowerment of patients in face of the medical juggernaut.
Out of 60 doctors in 14 months, I count on one hand those that were more than functionaries, useless in the end. (Those are now personal friends and there may be something here in Ottawa (fair warning) that will grow out of this, in tribute to Didi's struggle. That is, we'll see, but I'm looking at setting up to go toe-to-toe with the Government and setting up an alternative cancer treatment research clinic, and we'll see how it all falls out in the Supreme Court of Ontario. By the time they'd hear us, we'd have a roster of survivors "cancer-free" and it'd be tried in the court of public opinion. We shall see.)

Every cancer is "unique", I believe. We die anyway, Lazarus notwithstanding, so find what feels right, don't believe their statistical garbage, and make your decisions yourself. The information is out there (though as said, starting with a Moss Report will save you hundreds of hours from scratch)

I also agree it's much to do with the immune system, - it's not for nothing we went with LDN early in the course (low-dose naltrexone)
But it's not simple either - metabolic insufficiencies can also precipitate major chronic illnesses. Lack of a trace nutrient can collapse hundreds of metabolic processes. Genetic predisposition and environmental toxins are also of huge import. Other possibilities too.
Here's something of GREAT IMPORT, very very close to availability (I would have found a way to get this had Didi lived) - the Hemopurifier, developed for the WOT to deal with anthrax, etc...but applicable in Marburg, Ebola, etc, and now in advanced cancers testing (in the Asian med conglomerates as it happens). Implications are obvious - since most cancer cells put out microvesicles to attract and destroy NK (natural killer), T-3, T-4 cells much like a bomber will scatter chaff to avoid targeting, the filtration reduces this blood load by 90%, giving a window for the immune system to regain control, given enough metabolic support for the immune system.
BTW, Chemo 101 = Chemo destroys your immune system.
That doesn't mean I'm against chemo/rad - it has it's place, definately.

818 Tiburon  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:49:10am

re: #815 The Albatross

yes, I have MANY nurse friends now. Read Dr. Jerome Groopman's NYT bestseller, "How Doctors Think".
The probiotics and enzymes are a rock-solid way to go with this, very great choice IMHO, - we tried by compliance was difficult as Didi's first onset was severe idiopathic (well, we know now in 20-20 hindsight, not then, and we found this ourselves with NO HELP FROM THE DOCTORS. That is, they wrote her off after the cancer dx) gastroparesis - like IBS, NO FUN. She basically couldn't eat from June '06 till her death (was on TPN, total parenteral nutrition).

IV Vit C is also a fantastic support for chemo/rad rounds, just don't do a dose within 48 hours of a chemo session. Few contraindications, you need to check you have the enzyme that processes C, and for iron overload...(both rare) - most who include this in the regimen have little or no side-effects from chemo. At the serum levels you can achieve IV, C is fully and preferentially toxic to cancer cells, not healthy cells, and leads to apoptosis and pycnosis instantly, so much so that one should be careful to rule out tumour involvement in venous/arterial walls. (only happened once in tens of thousands of treatments - the tumours disappeared so quick left a hole in the vessel wall, no time to repair = bleed out)

Please buy a Moss Report for your father, NEVER too late, about 400 buck and about 500 pages, very sober analysis of what's out there, what has data behind it and what doesn't.

819 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:53:38am

re: #817 Tiburon

re: #808 The Albatross

...I also agree it's much to do with the immune system, - it's not for nothing we went with LDN early in the course (low-dose naltrexone)
But it's not simple either - metabolic insufficiencies can also precipitate major chronic illnesses. Lack of a trace nutrient can collapse hundreds of metabolic processes. Genetic predisposition and environmental toxins are also of huge import. Other possibilities too.
Here's something of GREAT IMPORT, very very close to availability (I would have found a way to get this had Didi lived) - the Hemopurifier, developed for the WOT to deal with anthrax, etc...but applicable in Marburg, Ebola, etc, and now in advanced cancers testing (in the Asian med conglomerates as it happens). Implications are obvious - since most cancer cells put out microvesicles to attract and destroy NK (natural killer), T-3, T-4 cells much like a bomber will scatter chaff to avoid targeting, the filtration reduces this blood load by 90%, giving a window for the immune system to regain control, given enough metabolic support for the immune system...

Regarding the metabolic aspect of cancer (still tied in to nutrition)... I ran into this documentary (apparently quite old) that has a very good discussion of cancer cells. Be advised though, as with every "documentary" they've go their spin. It is long, drawn out (setting out to repel nay sayers and document the medical field's lagging acknowledgment of nutritional or alternative solutions) but educational if you are able to look past the initial conspiratory snarky comments:

World Without Cancer Pt 1

There is another equally long part 2 but I won't put up the link in the interest of spamming the thread.

820 Tiburon  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:57:02am

Anyway, I've done my Lizardoid Duty to upload data now. Now off to have a nice 'for me' day, a Sabbath version, "shouldn't" be online of course on Sabbath but maybe it'll work for someone out of the thousands here, hence "picuach nefesh", saving a soul.
And after 24/7 for much longer than a year, I'm trying to take the advice of those who love me to just take it easy, and do for me.

821 dennisw  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:57:22am

Tiburon

From what I know Josef Issels and others in Europe have been supplementing chemotherapy with alternative treatments. The USA is behind in this

822 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 9:58:02am

re: #820 Tiburon

I enjoyed your comments here Tiburon, and will be looking into that report.

823 big L  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 10:07:30am

Is that like people opposing egg foo yung? Or is it like
"foo me once,shame on you. foo me twice, shame on me?"

824 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 10:10:59am

Ugh... just reviewed part two... at about 15 minutes in please keep in mind that I don't know how old this documentary is. I suspect it is pretty dated based on his clinical examples of people who achieved better outcomes with the B-17 drug he is clearly advocating.

Outcomes have significantly improved in recent years... so much so that my aunt's carcinoid syndrome (inoperable) was held at bay and she outlived her diagnosis by 11 years. A week after she succumbed to her illness I met a young woman who had successfully been treated and was declared cancer free due to advancements in treatment. My dentist's wife who was diagnosed with bone cancer and went in and out of remission twice worked closely with the Houston Mayo and has been pronounced cancer free (astonishing!) for over a year after successful bone marrow transplants. These two examples and others have been a big turn around in the fatality of cancer. So please disregard the percentages the speaker throws out. Just recently, the MSM has published several stories announcing the encouraging therapies and advancements in American medical practice that have increased the percentage of successful outcomes.

I've beaten this horse quite enough... I'm outta here.

825 big L  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 10:13:09am

10 macker- good for you! I had the works chest pain, angiogram, -plasty, stent. Stent looks like spring in old ball-point pens. It was Kaiser . Tehy did agood job fopr me. But it is better not to haveto have it, of course. Itwas the widow maker,lt descending. they never do -plasty and stent until it is 70% blocked anyway, so it is a crapshoot.
Still working on the weight.

Hang in there.Walk every day.

826 Tiburon  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 10:18:41am

re: #819 The Albatross

Hey Albatross, thanks for vid, it's old as you say but looks good. The "conspiracy statements" are legitimate, IMHO. It's a monster death machine, the War on Cancer, generally stated. Anyway, I've saved it and will watch it later.
It seems to be heading for a discussion of Vit C (opening with scurvy history), so remember that Vit C was subject of a violent hit contract via the NCI a number of years ago, where they queered data to show it useless. One cannot achieve oral intake of Vit C sufficient to do anything to any cancer. You must put this directly into the blood, and we're talking between 40 and 70 grams per session, two-three times weekly for several months, or longer. That's 40,000 mg, versus say your one-a-day vitamin level of 250 mg.
It's not a game. The peer-reviewed data is in, though - you'll find it at the Brightspot (see link above) - still fully repressed by the Machine.
To Anyone: - Find a doctor who practices Translational Medicine (and of course Integrated Medicine, goes without saying) Translational Medicine is willingness to look at the latest work from the molecular laboratories, etc, and integrate this immediately on risk/benefit basis, and not wait till new discoveries enter the "Mainstream".
Like it says in the video - such discoveries, when they cannot be PATENTED, are actively suppressed by the BASTARDS. Talk about a case of "Little Eichmanns",