Another Massive Windfall for Palestinians

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For decades, money has been pouring into the coffers of one Palestinian strongman after another, from Arab states and clueless Westerners, and all the Palestinians have to show for it is the ultimate welfare state—a death cult society whose main business is indoctrinating their children to hate and kill.

So naturally, here come the deep pockets people again, pledging more than $14 billion that will go down the same hole of terrorism and hatred.

JERUSALEM, March 6 (Reuters) - Rich states and investors have announced a record $14 billion to aid the Palestinians and their economy in a string of Western-backed meetings meant to boost President Mahmoud Abbas in his power struggle with Hamas.

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616 comments
1 Macker  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:33:45am

Perhaps that's what БХО is trying to emulate.

2 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:33:46am

Whoa, you're up, Charles. I just suggested on the DDT that you hit the snooze again.

3 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:33:59am

I wonder how much George Soros ponied up?

4 cartoonboy  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:34:01am

Breaking news: Obama’s teleprompter crashes – government in a standstill.

5 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:34:03am

Well they can't flush it down a non-existent toilet.

6 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:34:08am

i can't bang my head hard enough

7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:34:37am

Money holes
Memory holes
Pretty soon we be into some real holes.

8 Right mind left  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:35:00am

They get to shore up the infrastructure of all those tunnels now!

9 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:35:10am

re: #7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Money holes
Memory holes
Pretty soon we be into some real holes.

Zero is an asshole.

10 BignJames  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:35:27am

Funding thier proxies.....proxys?

11 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:35:28am

Another $14 billion. I take it that will not be used for medicine, bread, or water, much less fuel or electricity.

How many rockets does $14 billion buy anyway?

12 Cicero05  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:35:31am

Just like General Motors and Citibank, the B. Hussein Obama administration considers Hamas to be too big to fail.

13 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:35:34am

[pre-emptive DELETED]

Anger... rising...

14 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:35:37am

Fourteen billion dollars?!? How much of that will get sent to Iran, to help finance their nukes? Iran could reciprocate by building some for Hamas.

15 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:35:41am

re: #3 Wyatt Earp

I wonder how much George Soros ponied up?

Zilch, as usual.

/S

16 Erik The Red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:35:41am

What's money. Fuck it and spend. Let our great grandkids pay for it.

17 monkeytime  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:35:48am

Wow - Hammas really knows how to fund raise!

18 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:36:48am

re: #16 Erik The Red

What's money. Fuck it and spend. Let our great grandkids pay for it.

What a lovely sentiment for a t-shirt.

19 Buck  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:36:52am

Strange the Reuters article seems to start with a point form critique:

* Unprecedented pledges to Palestinians lack transparency

* Unclear what money is new and when it will arrive

* Some pledges were double counted, diplomats say

Weird?

20 Shug  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:36:59am

Fighting the war on terror by funding terrorists

what a novel concept

/

21 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:37:06am

Yahoo pic

Mountains of free food!

22 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:37:11am

re: #3 Wyatt Earp

I wonder how much George Soros ponied up?

Not even enough to buy a launching platform for a rocket.

23 cartoonboy  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:37:25am

Killing jews is expensive these days-the global financial crisis has only made things worse.

24 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:37:27am

President Sphincter

25 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:37:46am

And while the billions flow into the pakesthugs coffers, this is happening:
A million face starvation as Sudan shuts down

From that report:
'In El Fasher, capital of North Darfur, government officials began the process of seizing millions of pounds in assets belonging to the charities. Men with dark glasses and clipboards arrived at the Oxfam office to begin itemising equipment. They left with laptops, desktop computers and satellite phones, choking off communication. There was a similar scene at the French agency Action Contre La Faim. “We are due to start distributing food to the camps in a fortnight,” one worker said. “Who else is going to do this and stop people starving? Words cannot describe what is happening.”
Charities reported that their bank accounts were being frozen. Doctors with Médicins sans Frontières were trying to contain two deadly outbreaks of meningitis before being expelled. Their clinics have closed. '

I hope you sleep well an night, all of you why cry for Gaza but have no tears or even words for Darfur!

26 onslow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:38:04am

Looking at the bright side- at least Arafat isn't around to steal much this time.

27 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:38:12am

re: #23 cartoonboy

How much does a Katyusha rocket go for these days anyway?

28 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:38:20am

Hillary Clinton has just been informed that she has donated the maximum allowed by law. She will now make donations in Socks' name.

29 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:38:42am
30 Macker  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:38:59am

re: #28 Wyatt Earp

And of course, Socks is dead.

31 Erik The Red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:39:02am

re: #18 debutaunt

What a lovely sentiment for a t-shirt.

You can buy one when I return in June. $99.99 each. With the tax I will make $10.00 per shirt, If I am lucky.

32 Shug  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:39:04am

Meanwhile my taxes are going to go up and the money I work my ass off to earn is going to these motherf___kers


I am pissed off

33 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:39:09am
34 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:39:27am

re: #30 Macker

And of course, Socks is dead.

Like death ever stopped a Democrat from donating . . . and voting.

35 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:39:37am

re: #26 onslow

Looking at the bright side- at least Arafat isn't around to steal much this time.

In a strange way, I do not find that comforting. When Arafat stole the money, that meant there was less for munitions.

36 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:39:45am

re: #28 Wyatt Earp

Hillary Clinton has just been informed that she has donated the maximum allowed by law. She will now make donations in Socks' name.

Socks was the only member of the Clinton family who had any class. Rest in peace Socks!

37 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:39:46am

re: #21 Killgore Trout

Yahoo pic

Mountains of free food!

That's one energetic worker there.

38 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:40:11am

re: #29 buzzsawmonkey

And yet he wants the Muslims to unclench.

My stomach unclenches every time I hear him speak.

39 onslow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:40:17am

re: #35 Honorary Yooper

You have a point.

40 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:40:30am

Wouldn't it be nice if we could opt out of this kind of stuff on our tax returns? Check the box for no support for terrorists, foreign abortions, etc?

41 The Optimist  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:41:00am

$14 billion in new construction of mosques, new weapons, payments to martyrs, copies of the Koran, new constraints on non-Islamic religions, new constraints on women, and funding for religious police.

How about tunnel building and reinforcement machinery?
How about funding to spread democracy in Gaza?

No need for greenhouse construction. The palestinians have firmly indicated that is not what they want. No need to pay health care costs. Israel already built their hospitals and provides health care.

42 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:41:11am

re: #35 Honorary Yooper

In a strange way, I do not find that comforting. When Arafat stole the money, that meant there was less for munitions.

Yep, I'd rather pay for Suha's shopping sprees on the Champs d'Elysee, given that choice.

43 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:41:18am

re: #30 Macker

And of course, Socks is dead.

That never stopped Dems from voting, shouldn't stop them from donating./

44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:41:21am

"Temperature rising. Vision blurring. Rage...taking...over..."
-Mr. Furious, Mystery Men

45 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:41:25am

re: #33 buzzsawmonkey

Now, that depends. Can I interest you in the undercoating?

"We had us a deal here for nine-teen-five. You sat there and darned if you didn't tell me you'd get this car, these options, without the sealant, for nine-teen-five!"

46 Macker  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:41:42am

re: #41 venezuela lover

Then again, when the IDF kills Terrorists in Gaza, there is no need for healthcare.

47 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:41:47am
48 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:41:47am

Money cannot fix a death cult.

49 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:42:05am

That's one kind of a windfall. Here's another. Outgoing PM Olmert is saying that Israel must redivide Jerusalem in the name of peace with the Palestinians, even as the PA demands that the world impose a 2-state solution and Hamas and Islamic Jihad continue their war against Israel's very existence.

50 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:42:05am

re: #27 Honorary Yooper

How much does a Katyusha rocket go for these days anyway?

With all this money to buy them, the prices just went up.

51 ratherdashing  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:42:06am

... yeah but

Mazen Sonnoqrot, former Palestinian economy minister turned businessman, said some of the Arab funds may be withheld until Abbas and Hamas reconcile. It is unclear if that will happen anytime soon because of internal Palestinian divisions and U.S. demands that Hamas recognise Israel and renounce violence.

Arab funds. mmm right. Lots of lip service is given to the Palis. Let's hope it stays that way.

52 DaddyG  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:42:20am

This is all part of the No Jihadist Left Behind act. It was clearly posted on page 1,745 section IV paragraph 14 sub paragraph 2 of the Omnibus bill. You had plenty of time to review it and write any objections to your congressperson in the 15 minutes it was available on line prior to the vote. /

53 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:42:24am

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Temperature rising. Vision blurring. Rage...taking...over..."
-Mr. Furious, Mystery Men

"Urge to kill . . . rising!" - Homer Simpson

54 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:42:26am

this is one reason why they keep killing.
it is like a reward for their fcked up murderous agenda.

there will be no real progress in the m.e. until the world puts the screws to the palis and makes them act like civilized human beings.
no more trying to understand savages.
make them understand us.

55 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:42:31am

re: #48 jcm

That's not really the aim of the money, honey.

56 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:43:00am

As the blogger friend put it: here's some money, now go kill some Jews!

57 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:43:03am

re: #37 debutaunt

They are always resting on the bags of food. It's very exhausting work.

58 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:43:13am

re: #4 cartoonboy

Breaking news: Obama’s teleprompter crashes – government in a standstill, & Market rebounds!

FTFY!

59 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:43:19am

re: #41 venezuela lover

$14 billion in new construction of mosques, new weapons, payments to martyrs, copies of the Koran, new constraints on non-Islamic religions, new constraints on women, and funding for religious police.

How about tunnel building and reinforcement machinery?
How about funding to spread democracy in Gaza?

No need for greenhouse construction. The palestinians have firmly indicated that is not what they want. No need to pay health care costs. Israel already built their hospitals and provides health care.

Why build greenhouses? The only thing the Paliterrorists want to plant in the ground are Jews.

60 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:43:20am

re: #45 Honorary Yooper

"We had us a deal here for nine-teen-five. You sat there and darned if you didn't tell me you'd get this car, these options, without the sealant, for nine-teen-five!"

He'll ask his manager.

61 The Optimist  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:43:24am

re: #25 yma o hyd

re: #25 yma o hyd

And while the billions flow into the pakesthugs coffers, this is happening:
A million face starvation as Sudan shuts down

From that report:
'In El Fasher, capital of North Darfur, government officials began the process of seizing millions of pounds in assets belonging to the charities. Men with dark glasses and clipboards arrived at the Oxfam office to begin itemising equipment. They left with laptops, desktop computers and satellite phones, choking off communication. There was a similar scene at the French agency Action Contre La Faim. “We are due to start distributing food to the camps in a fortnight,” one worker said. “Who else is going to do this and stop people starving? Words cannot describe what is happening.”
Charities reported that their bank accounts were being frozen. Doctors with Médicins sans Frontières were trying to contain two deadly outbreaks of meningitis before being expelled. Their clinics have closed. '

I hope you sleep well an night, all of you why cry for Gaza but have no tears or even words for Darfur!

The only way the starving people of Darfur can survive is to start a war with Israel and ask for donations.

62 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:43:33am
63 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:43:35am

re: #27 Honorary Yooper

How much does a Katyusha rocket go for these days anyway?

Katyushas are what Hizbullah uses. Kassams and Grads are what Islamic Jihad and Hamas uses. /pedant

As for what the kassams go for, I guess it depends on the cost of sugar and fertilizer - the key components in making the kassams in Gaza.

64 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:43:45am

re: #54 nyc redneck

That's why Japan was nuked, and both Germany's and Japan's entire civil bureaucracy and educational system started from ground up.

65 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:43:51am

re: #56 WriterMom

As the blogger friend put it: here's some money, now go kill some Jews!

So, the Nazis? Bad. The Palestinians? Good.

Where did I leave my duct tape?

66 albusteve  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:43:59am

it does not say who is spending the money or on what...I see nothing there about a beachside resort

67 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:44:30am

re: #62 ploome hineni

..the muslim countries lie promise, they never deliver

68 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:44:34am

Ok, these are pretty damn funny.....
Hillary teaches Feminism to Palestinian children


"I'm crushing your head!"

69 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:44:49am

re: #38 VegasRick

I just read this morning that Hilary is going to invite IRAN to a conference on the future of Afghanistan...all in keeping with the UNCLENCH theme.

70 Silhouette  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:44:55am

What you reward, you get more of.

What you punish, you get less of.

71 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:45:30am

re: #67 VegasRick

they want us to feel cheap for only promising 9 billion.

72 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:45:32am
73 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:45:32am

re: #64 WriterMom

That's why Japan was nuked, and both Germany's and Japan's entire civil bureaucracy and educational system started from ground up.

Dinged you up, just saying.

74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:45:33am

re: #68 Killgore Trout

Ok, these are pretty damn funny.....
Hillary teaches Feminism to Palestinian children

"I'm crushing your head!"

MY FAVORITE "KIDS IN THE HALL" BIT!

75 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:45:49am

re: #68 Killgore Trout

OMG that is really funny. The head crushy one.

76 dadog  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:45:52am

They would rather have 10000 dead bodies.

77 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:46:09am

re: #65 Wyatt Earp

So, the Nazis? Bad. The Palestinians? Good.

Where did I leave my duct tape?


You'll love this...:)

[Link: www.ducttapeguys.com...]

78 guftafs  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:46:26am

Altruism in action: the needs of the Palestinians supercede everything else.

79 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:46:26am

re: #49 lawhawk

That's one kind of a windfall. Here's another. Outgoing PM Olmert is saying that Israel must redivide Jerusalem in the name of peace with the Palestinians, even as the PA demands that the world impose a 2-state solution and Hamas and Islamic Jihad continue their war against Israel's very existence.

I'm just grateful that he's the outgoing PM!
I do have my doubts that Bibi will listen to those 'wise' (not!) words.

80 ssn697  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:46:59am

I am laughing pretty hard at these new "pledges". There are already 100's of millions in unpaid "pledges" from Arab countries, years old now.

I guess they can add this to the list of "the check is in the mail" pledges over the years.

81 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:47:27am

re: #68 Killgore Trout

Ok, these are pretty damn funny.....
Hillary teaches Feminism to Palestinian children


"I'm crushing your head!"

I thought she was discussing the terrorist's balls.

82 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:47:40am
83 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:47:41am

re: #77 Dustyvet

You'll love this...:)

[Link: www.ducttapeguys.com...]

Fan-freakin-tastic!

84 rw in san diego  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:47:49am

re: #17 monkeytime

Wow - Hammas really knows how to fund raise!

You know, without their constant actions and rantings against Israel as their raison d'etre, very few nations would give a rat's ass about them. They MUST keep the conflict ongoing.

85 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:47:49am

Many questions. Few answers.

86 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:48:16am

All meant to prevent Israel from invading Gaza again, if need be.

Israel can't go and destroy terrorist infrastructure bought and paid for by Obama, etc.

How many Palestinians are there, again?

Imagine giving $14 BILLION to the poor in the Appalachians, etc.

87 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:48:21am
88 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:48:32am

re: #82 ploome hineni

Tootsie? Like a tootsie roll.

89 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:48:47am

re: #61 venezuela lover

Sadly true.

It makes me so angry that I'm going to sit on my hands lest I encounter Stinky on his patrol ...

90 Macker  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:49:00am

re: #49 lawhawk

And here's what the Good People of Rock Ridge had to say....

91 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:49:09am

And if these are pledges, don't get too excited.

92 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:49:12am

re: #88 WriterMom

Tootsie? Like a tootsie roll.

That makes me think of Dustin Hoffman.

93 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:49:26am
94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:49:28am

re: #82 ploome hineni

anyone have some ideas about a name for my new black standard poodle...female?

Olive Oyl...

Standard Oil, get it?

95 ratherdashing  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:49:35am

re: #82 ploome hineni

anyone have some ideas about a name for my new black standard poodle...female?

Bridgette

96 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:49:48am

re: #70 Silhouette

What you reward, you get more of.

What you punish, you get less of.

So, we're looking at more terrorists and freeloaders and less peace and success?

97 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:49:58am
98 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:50:01am

re: #70 Silhouette

What you reward, you get more of.

What you punish, you get less of.

And much of the world is perfectly happy with more dead Jews.
/I wish this were sarc

99 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:50:04am

re: #73 VegasRick

I get yer meaning...

100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:50:16am

re: #97 ploome hineni

lol....ok

Black!? C'mon!

101 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:50:28am
102 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:50:43am

re: #68 Killgore Trout

Ok, these are pretty damn funny.....
Hillary teaches Feminism to Palestinian children


"I'm crushing your head!"

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAA

103 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:50:51am
104 jorline  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:50:58am

Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation


Helllllooooooooooo

105 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:51:10am

re: #82 ploome hineni

anyone have some ideas about a name for my new black standard poodle...female?

We have the theme of food, in French. One of ours was named Brie, and the next standard, Truffle.

Is she a standard, mini or toy?

106 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:51:11am

F*ck the $14 Billion.

DEPOSIT $24 BILLION INTO THE EWOK KING HUSSEIN'S PERSONAL NUMBERED BANK ACCOUNT IN SWITZERLAND AND RENAME JORDAN PALESTINE!

Everyone has a price.

107 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:51:15am

re: #82 ploome hineni

anyone have some ideas about a name for my new black standard poodle...female?

Ink Spot?

108 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:51:17am

re: #82 ploome hineni

anyone have some ideas about a name for my new black standard poodle...female?

Tizzy - because she'll have you in one!

:-)

109 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:51:37am
110 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:51:39am

many americans are now suffering great financial hardships.
it is so difficult to see our hard earned tax money go to these worthless murderers.
it should be in our pockets.
we have been subsidizing their killing for too long.

111 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:51:53am

re: #104 jorline

Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation
Rebuilding Donations=Weapons=Hamas Aggression=Israeli Retaliation


Helllllooooooooooo

The circle of life death continues . . .

112 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:51:53am

re: #103 ploome hineni

baquette Lamarr

I Hedley understood that!

113 pat  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:51:58am

In fact the Arab States play a little game here. They make a lot of pledges with no intention of following through. The Saudi direct all of their money to religious instruction and weapons. The rest do nothing while the West sends dollars. Obama is brain dead. He is funding a terrorist group that is a sworn enemy of America.

114 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:52:00am
115 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:52:08am

You could name the poodle Jacque Chirac's Nemesis.

116 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:53:19am

Or Michelle. LOL. Is that racist?

117 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:53:26am
118 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:53:47am

re: #106 Ben Hur

F*ck the $14 Billion.

DEPOSIT $24 BILLION INTO THE EWOK KING HUSSEIN'S PERSONAL NUMBERED BANK ACCOUNT IN SWITZERLAND AND RENAME JORDAN PALESTINE!

Everyone has a price.

I like the idea, but I have a funny feeling the following would happen:

Jordan renamed Palestine; Jordanians become Palestinians.
Gaza and the West Bank now get called Canaan and the former Palestinians suddenly become Canaanites.
Same battle still continues under a new name.

119 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:53:58am

ploomie, name her phoenixgirl/

120 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:54:02am

re: #103 ploome hineni

baquette Lamarr

spicy jones.

121 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:54:08am
122 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:54:11am

re: #106 Ben Hur

It's not a money issue.

123 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:54:12am

re: #116 WriterMom

Or Michelle. LOL. Is that racist?

Well, she is a bitch.......................................I MEANT THE DOG!

124 rw in san diego  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:54:12am

I read at Carl in Jerusalem's blog , Israel Matzav, that a Democratic congresswoman wanted to put the release of Gilad Shalit as a condition to the Palestinians receiving the funds. I'm in favor of that.

125 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:54:13am

re: #116 WriterMom

I wouldn't do that to the pooch!

126 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:54:30am

I'm telling you, no one is going to fully fullfill their obligations of their pledges.

This is just PR BS because the wound of SAMAH's victory is still raw.

They have to make up for being too big of p*ssies to actually militarily "defend" the Palis from Israel.

127 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:54:36am

re: #88 WriterMom

Tootsie? Like a tootsie roll.

They are all in the pool - some sort of parctical joke.

128 deWildcats  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:54:50am

re: #52 DaddyG

This is all part of the No Jihadist Left Behind act. It was clearly posted on page 1,745 section IV paragraph 14 sub paragraph 2 of the Omnibus bill. You had plenty of time to review it and write any objections to your congressperson in the 15 minutes it was available on line prior to the vote. /

You made me laugh

129 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:55:09am

re: #116 WriterMom

Or Michelle. LOL. Is that racist?

It's definitely funny, I'll give you that!

130 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:55:14am

re: #113 pat

In fact the Arab States play a little game here. They make a lot of pledges with no intention of following through. The Saudi direct all of their money to religious instruction and weapons. The rest do nothing while the West sends dollars. Obama is brain dead. He is funding a terrorist group that is a sworn enemy of America.


So is 0bama. Birds of a feather, and all that.

131 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:55:19am

re: #82 ploome hineni

Michelle?

132 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:55:41am

re: #126 Ben Hur

p*ssies

POOOOOOOOOOSIES?

133 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:56:02am

They keep throwing money at the problem but the problem doesn't want to be solved. It's not a problem money can solve.

No amount of money will convince the Palestinian people to live in peace with Israel or give up the war they keep losing. Giving them money actually perpetuates the conflict by subsidizing Palestinian behavior that prevents peace.

They still haven found a way to fund where the PA doesn't steal and Hamas doesn't convert it to terrorism.

Not does it solve Iran's interference and desire to prevent ANY deal from happening.

134 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:56:16am

re: #131 Kenneth

Been there, posted that, bought real estate...

135 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:56:34am

re: #134 WriterMom

GMTA!

136 Lee Coller  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:56:58am

According to wikipedia the population of the west bank plus gasa is about 2,407,000. 14 billion is about $6000 for every man, woman, and child in those terrortories.

137 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:57:01am

Forcing UNWRA to publish annual, independently audited accounts would be a start.
Forcing UNWRA not to employ any hamasholes would also be a good start.
Best would be to get rid of UNWRA altogether and use another organisation.

138 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:57:22am

Ramirez picks up the Nero theme


[Link: hotair.com...]

139 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:58:11am

re: #133 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

That's exactly it. It's not a money problem, no amount of money will buy off or cancel out jihad.

140 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:58:35am

re: #118 Honorary Yooper

I like the idea, but I have a funny feeling the following would happen:

Jordan renamed Palestine; Jordanians become Palestinians.
Gaza and the West Bank now get called Canaan and the former Palestinians suddenly become Canaanites.
Same battle still continues under a new name.

Yes but with borders and armies. None of this "free pass" BS because they aren't a state/.

141 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:58:43am

re: #136 Lee Coller

According to wikipedia the population of the west bank plus gasa is about 2,407,000. 14 billion is about $6000 for every man, woman, and child in those terrortories.

Maybe they'll spend it on food and education?

Bawahahahahahahahaha!

142 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:58:48am

The "wind" in this "windfall" is an evil wind and must be broken.

143 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:58:49am

re: #136 Lee Coller

According to wikipedia the population of the west bank plus gasa is about 2,407,000. 14 billion is about $6000 for every man, woman, and child in those terrortories.

Bernie Made-off could handle their finances.

144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:58:55am

re: #136 Lee Coller

And all of it going to about five guys.

145 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:58:58am

re: #136 Lee Coller

Residents of Shitistan apparently only earn 5% of their keep.

146 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:59:00am

re: #122 WriterMom

It's not a money issue.

SILENCE!

147 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:59:26am

re: #141 Wyatt Earp

Maybe they'll spend it on food and education?

Bawahahahahahahahaha!

Oh, they do spend it on "education". Education in hating Jews and the West.

148 rw in san diego  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:59:34am

re: #139 WriterMom

That's exactly it. It's not a money problem, no amount of money will buy off or cancel out jihad.

The money supports the continuation of the jihad. That's the reason for it. No conflict with Israel, no money for the Palestinians.

149 dhg4  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:59:37am

I once wrote an op-ed titled "Rich thugs." In a nutshell, my argument was that if you give terrorists lots of money and attach no conditions to that money, you won't have democrats, you'll have rich thugs.

And as you'll recall that worked so well with Fatah.

150 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:59:58am

re: #141 Wyatt Earp

Maybe they'll spend it on food and education?

Bawahahahahahahahaha!

Sure they'll spend it on food and education. Food for the folks launching the rockets, and education on how to launch them. Did I mention supplies as well, and that the training will be on-the-job?

151 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 8:59:59am

re: #138 Dustyvet

Ramirez picks up the Nero theme


[Link: hotair.com...]

A perfect analogy. Just ignore those gyrations.

152 acwgusa  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:00:03am

Obama says he won't accept a future of job losses for the U.S.

Amazing. He really doesn't get it. Hey, President Noobama, you can't control employers choice to lay off employees! You AREN'T KING of the US!

153 pat  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:00:12am

the terrorist fist bump quip may seem a good call in time.

154 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:00:30am

re: #55 WriterMom

That's not really the aim of the money, honey.

LOL! very, very true.

155 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:00:34am

re: #146 Ben Hur

YA CHABIBI MAKE ME

156 FloridaAnole  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:00:38am

Oswald Spengler was right. "The Suicide of the West" indeed.

157 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:00:42am

re: #142 Kosh's Shadow

The "wind" in this "windfall" is an evil wind and must be broken.

Oh I break evil winds all the time when I have chili.

158 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:01:22am

re: #152 acwgusa

Obama says he won't accept a future of job losses for the U.S.

Amazing. He really doesn't get it. Hey, President Noobama, you can't control employers choice to lay off employees! You AREN'T KING of the US!

No, he thinks he's FDR, Part Douche.

159 monkeytime  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:01:24am

re: #82 ploome hineni

anyone have some ideas about a name for my new black standard poodle...female?

mon petite

160 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:01:25am

Who could really use the $?

[Link: stopthewarinnorthkivu.wordpress.com...]

161 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:01:31am

re: #133 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

They keep throwing money at the problem but the problem doesn't want to be solved. It's not a problem money can solve.

No amount of money will convince the Palestinian people to live in peace with Israel or give up the war they keep losing. Giving them money actually perpetuates the conflict by subsidizing Palestinian behavior that prevents peace.

They still haven found a way to fund where the PA doesn't steal and Hamas doesn't convert it to terrorism.

Not does it solve Iran's interference and desire to prevent ANY deal from happening.

It's worse than subsidizing. It encourages the violence because the terrorists see that the money is coming regardless of whether they engage in hudna or are actively fighting Israel as they are right now (and have always been). The money may be ostensibly tied to the PA, but it is going to end up in Hamas hands in Gaza - because that's where the money is supposed to be spent. Hamas continues its war, while Fatah plays the bagman. It's a convenient arrangement for them, but it means the war against Israel continues.

This is an ongoing effort by the Palestinian terrorists to engage in the triangle offense - Fatah plays bad cop while Islamic Jihad and Hamas continue the war.

162 Texas Heathen  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:01:44am

re: #142 Kosh's Shadow

The "wind" in this "windfall" is an evil wind and must be broken.

Oh my! Please don't break wind in this thread Kosh... I'm in a poorly ventilated room here.
:-)

163 rw in san diego  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:02:00am

re: #82 ploome hineni

anyone have some ideas about a name for my new black standard poodle...female?

Gigi.

164 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:02:00am

re: #152 acwgusa

Obama says he won't accept a future of job losses for the U.S.

Amazing. He really doesn't get it. Hey, President Noobama, you can't control employers choice to lay off employees! You AREN'T KING of the US!

He won't 'accept' it, he says, stamping his well-shod foot!
Well, PB0, ye're not a dictator - has that escaped your attention?

165 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:02:06am

re: #157 ConservatismNow!

Oh I break evil winds all the time when I have chili.

TMI.

166 dhg4  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:02:22am

re: #25 yma o hyd

And while the billions flow into the pakesthugs coffers, this is happening:
A million face starvation as Sudan shuts down

From that report:
'In El Fasher, capital of North Darfur, government officials began the process of seizing millions of pounds in assets belonging to the charities. Men with dark glasses and clipboards arrived at the Oxfam office to begin itemising equipment. They left with laptops, desktop computers and satellite phones, choking off communication. There was a similar scene at the French agency Action Contre La Faim. “We are due to start distributing food to the camps in a fortnight,” one worker said. “Who else is going to do this and stop people starving? Words cannot describe what is happening.”
Charities reported that their bank accounts were being frozen. Doctors with Médicins sans Frontières were trying to contain two deadly outbreaks of meningitis before being expelled. Their clinics have closed. '

I hope you sleep well an night, all of you why cry for Gaza but have no tears or even words for Darfur!

And please note who is standing up for Bashir!

167 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:03:20am

re: #161 lawhawk

Everyone who gives the money is just as clear on the purpose as those who receive it: murder and terror.

168 Lee Coller  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:03:47am

According to a different page on wikipedia the total GDP for the Palestinian terrortories is 11.95 billion for a GDP per capita of $2,900 (I know that figure doesn't mesh with the population figure from here -- who said wikipedia was consistent). We are giving them more than their total GDP!

169 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:03:50am

re: #164 yma o hyd

He wont accept it? Well, how about accepting the fact that your economic policies are sending Wall Street into cardiac arrest. That your Treasury guru Geithner doesn't have the answers - or the staff - to figure out what to do next, and he's incapable of finding anyone who can fill out those positions because they're all up to their necks in causing, overlooking, or precipitating the mess through their action or inaction.

170 FloridaAnole  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:03:56am

re: #152 acwgusa

Obama says he won't accept a future of job losses for the U.S.

Amazing. He really doesn't get it. Hey, President Noobama, you can't control employers choice to lay off employees! You AREN'T KING of the US!

Hey, Obama: You're going to have to accept something like up to 32% unemployment (as FDR did) if you persist in this asinine Buying Up the Private Sector With Taxpayers' Billions" policy.

171 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:04:09am

re: #166 dhg4

Cue Gomer.

172 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:04:15am

re: #160 Ben Hur

They could get some money if they started to kill Jews.

173 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:04:58am
174 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:05:00am

Obama administration sends invite to Tehran on Afghanistan


[Link: hotair.com...]

175 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:05:46am

Sushi or a run, sushi or a run...I'm having a battle of wits with myself! I'm winning! I'm losing!

176 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:05:55am

re: #174 Dustyvet

Obama administration sends invite to Tehran on Afghanistan


[Link: hotair.com...]

Are you frakkin' kidding me?

177 albusteve  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:05:59am

re: #167 WriterMom

Everyone who gives the money is just as clear on the purpose as those who receive it: murder and terror.

I absolutely agree...that's the reality that eludes the UN for example...
I hate the UN

178 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:06:05am

re: #175 WriterMom

Sushi or a run, sushi or a run...I'm having a battle of wits with myself! I'm winning! I'm losing!

it's a win win

179 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:06:29am

re: #174 Dustyvet

It's the Obama UNCLENCH program in spades.

180 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:06:30am

re: #174 Dustyvet

Obama administration sends invite to Tehran on Afghanistan


[Link: hotair.com...]

They are all enemies of the USA.

181 brookly red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:06:31am

re: #82 ploome hineni

anyone have some ideas about a name for my new black standard poodle...female?

"Madame" (as in Defarge) has a nice ring, especially for a pure breed.

182 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:06:39am

Hey y'all - I think the most important part of the report Charles linked to was this:

But diplomats said many of the pledges made at five donor and investor conferences held since December 2007, including one in Egypt on Monday, were counted more than once, have yet to materialise or were too vague to rely on.

Much of the money depends on Israel fully opening border crossings with Hamas-ruled Gaza, and lifting restrictions in the occupied West Bank where Abbas's Palestinian Authority holds sway, or has been linked to progress in stalled peace talks and Palestinian reconciliation, casting doubt on future payouts.

One senior Western diplomat criticised the pledging process as "smoke and mirrors" because of double-counting. Another said the big-figure headlines from donors eager to look forthcoming, combined with a lack of transparency, were "getting ridiculous", noting that despite the cascade of pledges, the Authority was still struggling to pay full wages to its workers on time.


I'd like to suggest that there be two tests ONLY for the PA to get any money from anywhere: the first is NO MORE ATTACKS ON OR IN ISRAEL. The Second is that at least 75% OF ALL DONATED MONEY MUST BE SPENT ON BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE, PROMOTING AGRICULTURE AND INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ATTACKING ISRAEL, all as certified - as the money is doled out - by some independent certified accountants - independent as in not the UN, not the Palestinians, and definintely not the Muslim States or other countries which provide the aid. The understanding being that if the money isn't spent as required, the PA would get NO MORE MONEY from anyone outside of "Palestine".

183 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:06:42am

re: #175 WriterMom

Sushi or a run, sushi or a run...I'm having a battle of wits with myself! I'm winning! I'm losing!

Run to the sushi place. ;)

184 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:06:42am

re: #176 Wyatt Earp

Are you frakkin' kidding me?

Umm nope...:(

185 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:06:52am

re: #175 WriterMom

Sushi or a run, sushi or a run...I'm having a battle of wits with myself! I'm winning! I'm losing!

Run before sushi.

186 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:06:54am

re: #175 WriterMom

Run to get sushi. Run back.

187 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:06:56am

re: #169 lawhawk

He wont accept it? Well, how about accepting the fact that your economic policies are sending Wall Street into cardiac arrest. That your Treasury guru Geithner doesn't have the answers - or the staff - to figure out what to do next, and he's incapable of finding anyone who can fill out those positions because they're all up to their necks in causing, overlooking, or precipitating the mess through their action or inaction.

Aww, c'mon, that what a disgraced German banker a few years ago called 'petitesses', a.k.a unimportnat little disturbances in the big picture.

////

188 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:06:58am

re: #139 WriterMom

That's exactly it. It's not a money problem, no amount of money will buy off or cancel out jihad.

Quite the contrary, all of this aid money helps the terrorists. Even if not one dollar of this money comes into Hamas' control, it will still benefit Hamas by relieving them of the necessity of providing normal gov't services. So long as the UN looks after education, health, water & food distribution, Hamas is free to concentrate on their core competency: terror & jihad.

189 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:06:59am

re: #175 WriterMom

Sushi or a run, sushi or a run...I'm having a battle of wits with myself! I'm winning! I'm losing!

Is sushi high calorie?

190 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:07:05am

re: #183 VioletTiger

LOL. I like the way you think.

191 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:07:27am
192 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:07:33am

re: #189 Walter L. Newton

No, very low calorie.

And if anyone calls it 'bait'-watch out!

193 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:07:38am

re: #185 debutaunt

Run before sushi.

You gotta run before you wok.
/

194 kafir lover  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:07:40am

“. . . this is not a battle over material goods. It’s a moral crisis, the greatest the world has ever faced and the last. Our age is the climax of centuries of evil. We must put an end to it, once and for all, or perish—we, the men of the mind. It was our own guilt. We produced the wealth of the world—but we let our enemies write its moral code.”

- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

195 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:07:46am

re: #190 WriterMom

LOL. I like the way you think.

You can have your raw fish and eat it too.

196 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:07:51am

re: #175 WriterMom

Sushi or a run, sushi or a run...I'm having a battle of wits with myself! I'm winning! I'm losing!

Sushi - a run will do yer knees in!

:-)

197 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:08:08am

re: #184 Dustyvet

Umm nope...:(

Obama is leading this country down a dangerous path. You do not make nice with people WHO WANT TO KILL YOU!

198 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:08:09am

re: #159 monkeytime

mon petite

6P! 6P! 6P!

199 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:08:34am

re: #197 Wyatt Earp

Sure you do! It worked with Hitler!

200 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:09:18am

re: #174 Dustyvet

Obama administration sends invite to Tehran on Afghanistan

[Link: hotair.com...]

The 0bamanation administration is going to let Iran get nukes. The mullahs have gotten the message.
And when Israel stops them, and the UN condemns Israel for defending itself, watch the administration vote against Israel.
Unfortunately, the attack on Iran might have to be nuclear, if the US blocks other routes, and the US is quite capable of that.
Anyone note that Gates was blocking Israel from stopping Iran even under Bush? 0bama must have liked that.

201 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:09:25am

re: #199 WriterMom

Sure you do! It worked with Hitler!

Godwin's law.

202 Wishing  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:09:26am

re: #166 dhg4

And please note who is standing up for Bashir!

That SnappedShot site has a VERY kewl scroll-over function!

203 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:09:36am

re: #176 Wyatt Earp
Howdy Wyatt! Nope, Dusty isn't kidding you. Our wonderful leader and his stooge Hillary have come up with this bizarre idea that if Iran (and possibly Syria) are invited to attend, then IF they attend, we'll give 'em another forum to bash us; if they don't attend they'll spend their time bashiing us at the UN.
It's a lose/lose proposition by the wondrous Obama Foreign Policy Team.
/

204 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:09:44am

re: #194 kafir lover

Reading this book now and it is eerie and fascinating in its mirror of our world--and a bit depressing.

205 Macker  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:10:05am

re: #182 realwest

But rules are for the Little People only, not for Demo☭rats and Paleostinians.

206 SummerSong  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:10:08am

Off Topic -Businesses from start-ups to global giants to drug makers and farmers are gearing up to fight the President's spending plan with ad campaigns and public protests-

[Link: www.businessweek.com...]
%20story

207 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:10:09am

re: #192 WriterMom

No, very low calorie.

And if anyone calls it 'bait'-watch out!

It's lovely good bait:

Youtube Video
208 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:10:36am

re: #199 WriterMom

Sure you do! It worked with Hitler!

Obama is about to announce "Peace in our time."

209 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:10:45am

re: #197 Wyatt Earp

Obama is leading this country down a dangerous path. You do not make nice with people WHO WANT TO KILL YOU!

Come on Wyatt, give a try... next time some punk is shooting at you extend an open hand and speak softly and nicely, invite him over to your house, give him some money.... you never know it might work!

///// CBBHO guide to effective police work.

210 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:10:51am

re: #188 Kenneth

Quite the contrary, all of this aid money helps the terrorists. Even if not one dollar of this money comes into Hamas' control, it will still benefit Hamas by relieving them of the necessity of providing normal gov't services. So long as the UN looks after education, health, water & food distribution, Hamas is free to concentrate on their core competency: terror & jihad.

Precisely.
Thats why all this pure 'humanitarian' aid to Gaza is counterproductive.
But too many people have swallowed the koolaid and think the Gazans are the only suffering people in the whole earth ...

211 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:11:03am

re: #176 Wyatt Earp

Are you frakkin' kidding me?


Well, it's not like they've invited the skin jobs to save the Galactica or something. /

212 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:11:15am

re: #203 realwest

Howdy Wyatt! Nope, Dusty isn't kidding you. Our wonderful leader and his stooge Hillary have come up with this bizarre idea that if Iran (and possibly Syria) are invited to attend, then IF they attend, we'll give 'em another forum to bash us; if they don't attend they'll spend their time bashiing us at the UN.
It's a lose/lose proposition by the wondrous Obama Foreign Policy Team.
/


I hope the people who voted him are really frakkin' happy.

213 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:11:16am

re: #208 Wyatt Earp

Obama is about to announce "Peace in our time."

Oh joy. It sure worked the last time it was tried, didn't it./

214 opinionated  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:11:22am
more than $14 billion

How many genocidal cartoon like characters [for Hamas TV] does that buy?

215 JohnAdams  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:11:23am

re: #7 Fat Vegetarian

Money holes
Memory holes
Pretty soon we be into some real holes.

Foxholes.

216 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:11:26am

claudette?
georgette?
jaqueline? ( that was my name in french class)

217 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:11:30am

re: #186 ConservatismNow!

Run to get sushi. Run back.

Ah, "Run to get bait. Run back and spill bait before getting home."
There, FTFY!

218 kafir lover  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:11:44am

re: #204 VioletTiger

Agree - gotta re-read 1984 as well, I'm sure it's in a box somewhere.

219 SummerSong  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:11:54am

re: #206 SummerSong

Oh my - Not 20% of the story at link above!

Clumsy fingers....

220 Macker  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:11:59am

re: #208 Wyatt Earp

Obama is about to announce "Peace Piss Submission in our time."

There, fixed that for ya!

221 monkeytime  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:12:05am

re: #210 yma o hyd

Precisely.
Thats why all this pure 'humanitarian' aid to Gaza is counterproductive.
But too many people have swallowed the koolaid and think the Gazans are the only suffering people in the whole earth ...


This is just a big - "Now they will like us" move.

222 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:12:05am

re: #211 lawhawk

Well, it's not like they've invited the skin jobs to save the Galactica or something. /

I worked with Admiral Adama. I know Admiral Adama. President Obama, you are no Admiral Adama.

* You're no Laura Roslin, either.

223 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:12:22am

re: #216 phoenixgirl

Fifi would also be cute.

224 Erik The Red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:12:50am

I am so trying to do 10 things at once. Sorry if I can not keep up tonight.

I am a male and have been told I can not multitask.

225 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:13:02am

liberte de dame?

226 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:13:11am

re: #176 Wyatt Earp

Are you frakkin' kidding me?

No kidding. US Afghan parley likely to include Iran

Look at some of the names in this article:

The committee heard testimony from two former US national security advisers, Zbigniew Brzezinski, who served under Jimmy Carter, and Brent Scowcroft, who worked for George H.W. Bush.

Brzezinski began by stressing actions that US shouldn't take, to avoid prejudicing the negotiations, arguing against ratcheting up sanctions, threatening the use of force, speaking of regime change and setting deadlines for the negotiations, unless the aim was for the talks to break down and for America to be able to blame that breakdown on Iranian intransigence.

Accordingly, he criticized a story in Haaretz this week that said Israel told Clinton to impose a time frame on talks for them to have impact.

"We should be very careful not to become susceptible to interested parties" and their policies on Iran, he warned.

He also took issue with Israel's contention that a nuclear-armed Iran would be an "existential threat," and argued that deterrence in the form of extending America's nuclear umbrella to friends in the Middle East should allay Jerusalem's concerns.

The US, Brzezinski maintained, faced more of an existential threat from the Soviet arsenal when he was in the White House, in the 1970s, than Israel did now, and deterrence proved effective in that case.

Both Brzezinski and Scowcroft agreed that the biggest threat came not from Iran acquiring a nuclear weapon but from the impetus such an acquisition would give to a regional nuclear arms race.

Many pro-Israel figures have assailed Brzezinski and Scowcroft for their views on the Middle East, and the choice to invite the two to testify did not sit well with several activists.

"The choice of Brzezinski and Scowcroft sent up two yellow flags when I heard they were given such prominence," one Jewish leader said of Thursday's hearing. "When Brzezinski used his short opening statement to say Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should be cautious about listening to Israel's ideas, the red flag really went up. After all, Israel knows an awful lot about Iran and what they do that's against the interest of peace."

227 phoenixgirl  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:13:29am

re: #223 WriterMom

Fifi would also be cute.

oui oui?

228 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:14:01am

re: #226 Kosh's Shadow

Is anyone else's head ready to explode? And all this in less than two months. We are so screwed.

229 Macker  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:14:10am

re: #222 Wyatt Earp

Well I guess we'll see if The Old Girl can be saved this week, after that jump so close to her forward hull....

230 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:14:12am

re: #216 phoenixgirl

My name in French class was...uh...wait...

Oh. Didn't take French.

231 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:14:51am

re: #229 Macker

Well I guess we'll see if The Old Girl can be saved this week, after that jump so close to her forward hull....

I'll be very unhappy if they kill her, but the writers have made me unhappy before.

I haven't seen a toaster fire in anger in weeks!

232 JohnAdams  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:14:57am

re: #228 Wyatt Earp

Is anyone else's head ready to explode? And all this in less than two months. We are so screwed.

Been picking pieces of my skull outta the keyboard for a couple weeks now.

233 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:14:59am

re: #212 Wyatt Earp
Regrettably the people who voted him in probably are frackin' happy.
Y'all ought to check the spin off links - I put in three links from Rasmussen mostly dealing with our economy, but when you see how many folks don't think you can earn a living in THIS country without government aid, it certainly comes as no surprise to them that Obama would inivite one if not two Terror Supporting/Sponsoring regimes to the table. I mean, how ya gonna have peace unless you sit down with those who are repsonsible - in the main - for their being no peace?

234 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:15:07am

re: #226 Kosh's Shadow

Because the Iranians were soooo helpful in Iraq.

235 opinionated  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:15:07am

re: #200 Kosh's Shadow

The 0bamanation administration is going to let Iran get nukes.

Caroline Glick:

The Obama administration has no intention of preventing Iran from becoming a nuclear power or Syria from maintaining its alliance with the mullahs. The White House seeks far more modest ends.

Through its policies toward Israel on the one hand and Iran and Syria on the other, the Obama administration demonstrates that it has already accepted a nuclear Iran. Its chief concern today is to avoid being blamed when the mushroom clouds appear in the sky. And it may well achieve that aim. After all, how could the administration be blamed for a nuclear Iran when it has wholly devoted its efforts to advancing the righteous cause of peace?

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

236 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:15:14am

re: #228 Wyatt Earp

Ka.
Boom.

237 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:15:50am

re: #214 opinionated

How many genocidal cartoon like characters [for Hamas TV] does that buy?

I'm surprised some Hollywood types haven't donated their time and ideas.

238 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:15:50am

re: #232 JohnAdams

Been picking pieces of my skull outta the keyboard for a couple weeks now.

Your namesake is rolling over in his grave.

239 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:15:55am

President Barack Obama just plain rude to Britain. Don't call us in future.


[Link: blogs.telegraph.co.uk...]

240 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:16:06am

re: #189 Walter L. Newton
Hi Walter! I don't know if sushi or bait is high in calories but it is high in mercury!

241 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:16:29am

re: #206 SummerSong

Off Topic -Businesses from start-ups to global giants to drug makers and farmers are gearing up to fight the President's spending plan with ad campaigns and public protests-

[Link: www.businessweek.com...]
%20story

Should have thought of this before the elections.
But then, some business executive like PB0's 'decisive leadership', it says in that article.

242 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:16:35am

re: #233 realwest

Regrettably the people who voted him in probably are frackin' happy.
Y'all ought to check the spin off links - I put in three links from Rasmussen mostly dealing with our economy, but when you see how many folks don't think you can earn a living in THIS country without government aid, it certainly comes as no surprise to them that Obama would inivite one if not two Terror Supporting/Sponsoring regimes to the table. I mean, how ya gonna have peace unless you sit down with those who are repsonsible - in the main - for their being no peace?

Let's sit down with Osama bin Laden, too. Why the Hell not?

243 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:16:42am

re: #222 Wyatt Earp

I worked with Admiral Adama. I know Admiral Adama. President Obama, you are no Admiral Adama.

* You're no Laura Roslin, either.

And he only thinks he's a Gaius Balthar.

244 jjmckay1216  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:16:57am

re: #192 WriterMom

No, very low calorie.

And if anyone calls it 'bait'-watch out!

now THAT'S funny!

245 itellu3times  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:16:58am

re: #26 onslow

Looking at the bright side- at least Arafat isn't around to steal much this time.

Oh, I think someone else will step up.
/

Don't worry, most of this $14b will just move from one Swiss bank account to another.

246 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:18:03am

"Civlians"

247 Macker  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:18:05am

re: #231 Wyatt Earp

If there any Toaster worth setting on fire, it's that son of a bitch Cavil!

248 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:18:13am

re: #243 Kosh's Shadow

And he only thinks he's a Gaius Balthar.

And he acts like he is Tom Zarek.

249 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:18:14am

re: #239 Dustyvet

From your link:


We get the point, sunshine: we're just one of many allies and you want fancy new friends. Well, the next time you need something doing, something which impinges on your national security, then try calling the French, or the Japanese, or best of all the Germans. The French will be able to offer you first rate support from their catering corps but beyond that you'll be on your own.

When it comes to men, munitions and commitment you'll soon find out why it pays to at least treat the Brits with some manners.

250 Twilight  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:18:14am

Isn't it illegal to fund terrorism.

/OH it's against Jews...... sorry my bad. All OKAY then.

251 apachegunner  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:18:37am

re: #179 WriterMom

It's the Obama UNCLENCH program in spades.

suppose I shouldn't say a word about that last word huh?

252 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:18:39am

re: #221 monkeytime

This is just a big - "Now they will like us" move.

Reminds me of the unpopular boy in school who tried to buy other pupils into liking him by giving them sweets, cartoon books, you name it.
They took it but ridiculed him anyway.

253 Erik The Red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:18:41am

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254 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:19:00am

re: #247 Macker

If there any Toaster worth setting on fire, it's that son of a bitch Cavil!

I'm hoping for a final battle between his faction and the fleet. What the Hell, it's not like they have to save any of the CG models after next week!

255 SummerSong  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:19:05am

re: #241 yma o hyd

Should have thought of this before the elections.
But then, some business executive like PB0's 'decisive leadership', it says in that article.

Yes, a bit too late, I fear.

256 vapig  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:19:28am

With all the money poured into the Palistinian state over the years it should, by rights, be a shining jewel of the Middle East. The fact that it's a living hell for its people is a testiment to it's economic and political failure.

Just the model our current resident of 1600 Penn has in mind for the US.

257 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:19:42am

re: #253 Erik The Red

I don't pimp for karma but.........

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1800 - what kind of goal is 1800?

258 ThinkRight  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:20:02am

re: #253 Erik The Red

I don't pimp for karma but.........

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Karma Whore !
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259 Macker  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:20:14am

re: #248 Wyatt Earp

And he acts like he is Tom Zarek.

I'm glad that motherfrakker's DEAD!

260 dhg4  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:20:46am

re: #257 debutaunt

1800 - what kind of goal is 1800?

It's Chai x 100!

(Chai is Hebrew for "life.")

261 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:20:46am

re: #259 Macker

I'm glad that motherfrakker's DEAD!

Shot, the airlocked. I actually got movement after that. Heh.

262 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:21:02am

re: #261 Wyatt Earp

Shot, the airlocked. I actually got movement after that. Heh.

"the" = "then." PIMF!

263 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:21:12am

re: #253 Erik The Red

I don't pimp for karma but.........

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Keep talking Lad, I'll keep dinging...:)

264 snapped shot  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:21:18am

re: #202 Wishing

Glad somebody enjoys it! :)

Regards,
Brian

265 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:21:24am
266 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:21:26am

re: #253 Erik The Red

I don't pimp for karma but.........

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A Karma ratio of 58.6% is pretty respectable!

267 The Optimist  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:21:35am

re: #188 Kenneth

Quite the contrary, all of this aid money helps the terrorists. Even if not one dollar of this money comes into Hamas' control, it will still benefit Hamas by relieving them of the necessity of providing normal gov't services. So long as the UN looks after education, health, water & food distribution, Hamas is free to concentrate on their core competency: terror & jihad.

Sort of like a nanny for the palestinians, so they don't have to bother with everyday problems.

268 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:21:58am

OT, but it looks like global warming reached Pluto:
Pluto's Atmosphere Warmer Than Thought

Al Gore will be heading there soon (I wish) to teach the Plutonians how to be more environmentally friendly. I hope they like to serve Man.
/ on the last part

269 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:21:59am

re: #260 dhg4

It's Chai x 100!

(Chai is Hebrew for "life.")

Then he will shut up about it until 17,990?

270 kutabeach  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:22:04am

re: #136 Lee Coller

According to wikipedia the population of the west bank plus gasa is about 2,407,000. 14 billion is about $6000 for every man, woman, and child in those terrortories.

CIA World factbook has WB+Gaza pop at almost 4M. Let's assume it is somewhere in betwee, so it averages out to around $4750 per person in the EB and Gaza.

That would rank the WB+Gaza above Brazil, Iran, Thailand, Jordan, China, Indonesia, India and many many more countries in Per Capita "Income" (of course, it's not real income to the Fake-astinians, it's charity).

(based on 2006 data for those countries)

271 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:22:08am

re: #263 Dustyvet

Keep talking Lad, I'll keep dinging...:)

Sounds like my love life. Oh, I've said too much.

272 dhg4  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:22:20am

re: #256 vapig

With all the money poured into the Palistinian state over the years it should, by rights, be a shining jewel of the Middle East. The fact that it's a living hell for its people is a testiment to it's economic and political failure.

Just the model our current resident of 1600 Penn has in mind for the US.

Actually I think you're wrong about this. The fact that so much money has been poured in is a sign of dysfunction. And by discouraging productive work it has served to perpetuate the culture of dependency and terror.

273 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:22:22am
274 opinionated  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:22:41am

UN will resume aid shipments to Gaza

The UN says it will resume aid shipments into Gaza after Hamas returned supplies seized several days ago.

Officials from Hamas took thousands of UN blankets, food parcels, and tons of rice and flour.

That prompted the UN to stop its aid trucks into Gaza, fearing Hamas would seize them.

John Ging, Gaza head of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, said Monday that Hamas officials returned the aid, prompting the UN to lift its freeze.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

You can't make this stuff up.

275 ThinkRight  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:23:08am

re: #265 ploome hineni

Britain is now irrelevant. Britain is on its way to becoming a 3rd world sharia infested country

Britain is OVER


Well
In that case Obama will take them in under his Wing
That is his same plan for us

276 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:23:09am

re: #217 realwest

Ah, "Run to get bait. Run back and spill bait before getting home."
There, FTFY!

Well, you shouldn't be driving drunk, so running is better.

277 brookly red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:23:10am

re: #257 debutaunt

1800 - what kind of goal is 1800?

O's plan for the DOW?

278 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:23:31am

re: #271 Wyatt Earp

Sounds like my love life. Oh, I've said too much.

I had a love life once, I think it occured in 1867...:)


/S

279 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:23:50am

OT - blatant self-promotion for any Denver/Colorado area Lizards.

Out current show which just open last weekend, "The Visitor" has received 3 1/2 stars out of 4 at the Denver Post.

You may read the review here...

[Link: www.denverpost.com...]

It's an interesting fictional history piece that would certainly appeal to Lizards. Just a few weeks before Freud leaves Vienna, he has a confrontation with a opportunist Nazi and a visitor who claims that he is "god."

Science versus faith verses politics verses terror.

And as an added bonus to Lizards, if you like my comments at LGF, you can say hi to me, and if you don't like my comments here, you can punch me in the mouth.

You can't lose.

[Link: www.minersalley.com...]

280 dhg4  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:24:49am

re: #268 Kosh's Shadow

OT, but it looks like global warming reached Pluto:
Pluto's Atmosphere Warmer Than Thought

Al Gore will be heading there soon (I wish) to teach the Plutonians how to be more environmentally friendly. I hope they like to serve Man.
/ on the last part

Pluto too! Two years ago it was Mars.

If we don't nip this global warming thing in the bud the whole freaking solar system will melt!

281 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:25:07am

/14 Billion? How else is Abbas supposed to amass the same fortune as his predecessor? Sheesh folks, give the guy a break.

282 summergurl  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:25:09am

re: #253 Erik The Red

I don't pimp for karma but.........

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Hey when I mentioned when I hit 500 Fat Bastard Vegetarian called me a ding whore....

just sayin;

Maybe he hadn't had his V8 yet that morning.

283 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:25:36am

re: #253 Erik The Red

I don't pimp for karma but.........

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Its a pleasure to help a Lizard - sad or not!

284 dhg4  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:25:44am

re: #269 debutaunt

Then he will shut up about it until 17,990?

Ask him.
:-)

285 Reluctant Democrat  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:25:47am

Who the heck are these "investors"? Who the heck would invest in Palestinians?

I guess we'll never know.

286 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:25:55am

re: #273 ploome hineni

WHat has Britain actually DONE, except some symbolic presence?

Youtube Video
287 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:26:14am

re: #242 Wyatt Earp
Ok, but only if O.R. loans me his Kimber with a full magazine first!

288 summergurl  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:26:22am

re: #285 Reluctant Democrat

Who the heck are these "investors"? Who the heck would invest in Palestinians?

I guess we'll never know.

I bet Hillary would know...

289 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:26:23am

re: #268 Kosh's Shadow

Pluto's Atmosphere Warmer Than Thought

How warm is thought?

290 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:26:39am

re: #284 dhg4

Ask him.
:-)

When he hits his magic number, I want a chocolate cupcake.

291 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:26:45am

re: #33 buzzsawmonkey

Now, that depends. Can I interest you in the undercoating?

Hey, don't screw me out of the floormats!

292 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:27:42am

re: #287 realwest

Ok, but only if O.R. loans me his Kimber with a full magazine first!

Oh, that'll happen!
///

293 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:28:02am
294 dhg4  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:28:05am

re: #285 Reluctant Democrat

Who the heck are these "investors"? Who the heck would invest in Palestinians?

I guess we'll never know.

Since you asked, here's a golden oldie from the late, lamented Michael Kelly.

295 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:28:13am

U.S. Unemployment Rises to 8.1%, Highest in 25 Years, as 651,000 Jobs Lost

296 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:28:30am

OT, Rush on - said
'Your grandchildren are broke the day they are born.'

297 brookly red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:28:36am

OT: Rush just played a clip of Whoopie Goldberg complaining about O's taxes... OMG, this is falling appart.

298 ThinkRight  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:28:56am

re: #285 Reluctant Democrat

Who the heck are these "investors"? Who the heck would invest in Palestinians?

I guess we'll never know.


Largest Donor is the United States/Obama

299 Macker  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:29:02am

Rhodesian PM injured, wife killed in Car Crash: How much do you want to bet this was engineered by Mugabe?

300 FloridaAnole  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:30:03am

Well, we've probably got a few IOU's left for a few extra Trillion. Might as well give some to the Palestinians////////(SARC TAGS!)

However, we can recoup that money! Yep! I had the extreme pleasure of clicking on the old TV at about 6:40 (EST) this morning and surfed to CSPAN, and there was Obama strutting and gesticulating in front of a roomful of shills declaiming "If went back to the levels of obesity we had in 1980, we could save a trillion dollars!" This is for real. He actually read this off his teleprompter! I grabbed a pen and wrote it down to save it for posterity.

We are going to be dieted into solvency!

301 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:30:03am

True story for all of you hunters out there: Teen hunter a dear

She stood alone in the pine barrens, a blaze orange vision of despair.

"I shot a deer," she said. "And my boyfriend doesn't believe me."

Nick exhaled as the story poured out.

"He's at the tavern," she said, gesturing to the cell phone. "He won't come help me."

302 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:30:08am

re: #286 Dustyvet

Thank you, {Dustyvet}!

Thank you very much indeed.

303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:30:23am

re: #282 summergurl

Oh, I had had it.

304 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:30:49am

Reposting from the overnight thread, in case anybody missed it:


I now have a pdf of the Cloward-Piven essay,

THE WEIGHT OF THE POOR
A STRATEGY TO END POVERTY

For a limited time, I have turned on my email. Click my blue nick, send me a note & I will send you the file.

305 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:30:58am

re: #302 yma o hyd

Thank you, {Dustyvet}!

Thank you very much indeed.

Your very welcome...:*(

306 rumcrook  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:31:05am

because if the previous welfare billions didnt make for a peaceful prosperous well adjusted arab society oposite the israelis,

this surely will.

and if this doesnt,...

the next 20 billion or so in five years definitely will.....

307 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:31:05am

re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

MY FAVORITE "KIDS IN THE HALL" BIT!

"I crush your head, crush your head!"

308 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:31:07am

re: #273 ploome hineni
With respect Ploome, Britain has sent significant numbers of troops and air and naval power to help us out in Iraq and in Afghanistan - and those troops (unlike the Germans for example) are actually fighting and dying to support our efforts in Agfhanistan and Iraq. Indeed, GB has been, except perhaps for Australia, the single most reliable US ally for the last 50 or so years.

309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:31:14am

re: #297 brookly red

Well, she makes more than 250. None of them will be happy.

310 tastes like chicken  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:31:19am

I'm still trying to confirm this, but this is alarming, if true:

[[Page 6115]]
Presidential Determination No. 2009-15 of January 27, 2009

Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs Related To Gaza
Memorandum for the Secretary of State
By the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including section 2(c)(1) of the Migration and Refugee Assistance Act of 1962 (the ``Act''), as amended (22 U.S.C. 2601), I hereby determine, pursuant to section 2(c)(1) of the Act, that it is important to the national interest to furnish assistance under the Act in an amount not to exceed $20.3 million from the United States Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund for the purpose of meeting unexpected and urgent refugee and migration needs, including by contributions to international, governmental, and nongovernmental organizations and payment of administrative expenses of Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration of the Department of State, related to humanitarian needs of Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza.
You are authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.


(Presidential Sig.)
THE WHITE HOUSE,
Washington, January 27, 2009
[FR Doc. E9-2488
Filed 2-3-09; 8:45 am]
Billing code 4710-10-P

The key word is MIGRATION...the person who sent this to me implied that it is assistance to relocate to the US. Anyone else know anything about this?

[Link: www.thefederalregister.com...]

311 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:31:50am
312 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:32:16am

re: #300 FloridaAnole

Well, we've probably got a few IOU's left for a few extra Trillion. Might as well give some to the Palestinians////////(SARC TAGS!)

However, we can recoup that money! Yep! I had the extreme pleasure of clicking on the old TV at about 6:40 (EST) this morning and surfed to CSPAN, and there was Obama strutting and gesticulating in front of a roomful of shills declaiming "If went back to the levels of obesity we had in 1980, we could save a trillion dollars!" This is for real. He actually read this off his teleprompter! I grabbed a pen and wrote it down to save it for posterity.

We are going to be dieted into solvency!

Well, with making food into fuel, and the economy, we won't be able to afford as much food. That must be part of his health plan.

313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:32:23am

re: #307 Ward Cleaver

"I crush your head, crush your head!"

I actually used that bit once in a speech to a group of Customer Service Representatives. Works very well when you are aggravated in traffic also.

314 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:32:54am
315 oh_dude  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:33:01am

The Right in America want a Divorce

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters,

We've stuck together since the late 1950s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know that we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and just will not ever agree on what's right. So let's just end it right now while we can do it on friendly terms. We can smile, shake hands, chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and each go our own way.

So here's a model separation agreement...

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by land mass, each taking a portion. That's going to be the difficult part, but I'm sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy. Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate taste. We don't like redistributive taxes so you can have those. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. And since you hate guns and you hate war, we'll take the firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell. But you are going to be responsible for finding a biodiesel vehicle big enough to haul them around.

We'll keep the capitalism, the greedy corporations, the pharmaceutical companies; we will keep Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have the homeless, the homeboys, the hippies and illegal aliens. We will keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, the greedy CEOS and all of the rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and we'll let you have NBC and Hollywood.

You can be nice to Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer anybody that threatens us. You can have the peaceniks and the war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we will provide them with security. You won't have to worry about it. We will keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley Maclaine. You can also have the UN, but we will no longer pay the bill.

We will keep the SUVs, the pickup trucks and the oversize luxury cars. You can have the compacts, the subcompacts and every Subaru station wagon you can find. You can give everybody healthcare, if you can find any practicing doctors. We will continue to believe that healthcare is a privilege and not a right. We will keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and the national anthem, and I am sure you will be happy to substitute in their place "Imagine." I'd like to teach the world to sing "Kumbaya" or "We are the world." We will practice trickle-down economics and you can give trickle-up poverty your best shot. And since it so offends you, we will keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots. And if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the friendly spirit of parting, I'll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in about 15 years.

Sincerely,

John J Wall

Law student and an American

P.S. You can also have Barbara Streisand and Jane Fonda

316 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:33:33am

re: #292 Wyatt Earp
Well ok, but I bet my buddy Iron Fist would loan me one of his barelylegallenght 12 gauge shotguns - and that's good enough!
Let's Go!

317 brookly red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:34:09am

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, she makes more than 250. None of them will be happy.

Yea, and dig this, she did it on The View... I am sooo loving this.

318 kansas  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:34:21am

OT from MSNBC

Stocks give up gains after jobs report

or is it

Obama talks unemployment, stimulus in Ohio
March 6: President Barack Obama talks about the latest unemployment numbers and his stimulus package at a graduation ceremony for police recruits in Ohio.

319 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:34:43am

re: #297 brookly red

OT: Rush just played a clip of Whoopie Goldberg complaining about O's taxes... OMG, this is falling appart.

I saw a clip of Letterman doing a joke about Obama's taxes last night. It was about those people who won the lottery. He said after Obama takes the taxes out of their winnings they will have enough left over to buy another lottery ticket.

320 Macker  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:34:51am

re: #315 oh_dude

You forgot the nukes.

321 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:35:08am

re: #316 realwest

Well ok, but I bet my buddy Iron Fist would loan me one of his barelylegallenght 12 gauge shotguns - and that's good enough!
Let's Go!

Whoo hoo! Road trip!

322 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:36:05am

re: #301 Creeping Eruption

True story for all of you hunters out there: Teen hunter a dear

I just read the story. He didn't get her phone number? They sound like soulmates. That jerk back at the tavern sure didn't deserve her.

323 Nevergiveup  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:36:10am

What do you call people who do the same thing over and over and over again and always expect a different outcome?

324 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:36:13am

Stocks are down. That's unusual.

325 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:36:20am

re: #287 realwest

Ok, but only if O.R. loans me his Kimber with a full magazine first!

I'm sending it right over, packed into my unicorn's saddlebag.

326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:36:38am

re: #282 summergurl

Hey when I mentioned when I hit 500 Fat Bastard Vegetarian called me a ding whore....

By the way, being a ding whore is not necessarily a bad thing.

C'mon, ding me for that!

Up! Up! I meant up!

327 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:36:48am

re: #304 Kenneth

Reposting from the overnight thread, in case anybody missed it:

Come and get it, folks!

328 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:36:58am

re: #322 Ward Cleaver

I just read the story. He didn't get her phone number? They sound like soulmates. That jerk back at the tavern sure didn't deserve her.

I am SURE he feels like a serious ass now that the story is on the front page of Wisconsin's major paper. I too, would have asked for a number though.

329 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:37:01am

re: #323 Nevergiveup

What do you call people who do the same thing over and over and over again and always expect a different outcome?

Democrats? Morons?

330 vxbush  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:37:04am

re: #321 Wyatt Earp

Whoo hoo! Road trip!

[head pops up]

Where are we going?

Good morning or afternoon, depending on where you are...

331 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:37:08am

re: #324 Walter L. Newton

Stocks are down. That's unusual.

WHAT?

332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:37:10am

re: #323 Nevergiveup

What do you call people who do the same thing over and over and over again and always expect a different outcome?

May I venture a guess?

My bosses?

333 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:37:11am

re: #324 Walter L. Newton

Stocks are down. That's unusual.

It's the fault of dumb Americans who don't understand the "profit/earnings ratio".

334 Nevergiveup  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:37:22am

re: #324 Walter L. Newton

Stocks are down. That's unusual.

I've taken to standing on my head when I watch the financial news. Things look good to me?

335 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:37:31am

re: #310 tastes like chicken

I'm still trying to confirm this, but this is alarming, if true:

The key word is MIGRATION...the person who sent this to me implied that it is assistance to relocate to the US. Anyone else know anything about this?

[Link: www.thefederalregister.com...]

Has he lost his fucking mind?

336 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:37:38am

re: #324 Walter L. Newton

Stocks are down. That's unusual.

Was Zero on TV again? he is the death knell for the Dow.

337 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:37:39am

re: #308 realwest

Though the former Soviet satellite states and Poland are becoming pretty staunch allies too. Terror and fear is a recent memory for them.

338 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:37:47am

Iran to release Fargo journalist?


[Link: www.startribune.com...]

339 brookly red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:38:00am

re: #319 NJDhockeyfan

I saw a clip of Letterman doing a joke about Obama's taxes last night. It was about those people who won the lottery. He said after Obama takes the taxes out of their winnings they will have enough left over to buy another lottery ticket.

Yeah, they are gonna start turning on each other soon...

340 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:38:13am

re: #323 Nevergiveup

What do you call people who do the same thing over and over and over again and always expect a different outcome?

Liberals?

341 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:38:36am

re: #333 Occasional Reader

It's the fault of dumb Americans who don't understand the "profit/earnings ratio".

We're too busy watching that gyrating thingy.

342 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:38:38am

re: #323 Nevergiveup

What do you call people who do the same thing over and over and over again and always expect a different outcome?

My kids?

343 Ceemack  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:38:42am

re: #82 ploome hineni

anyone have some ideas about a name for my new black standard poodle...female?


I suppose "Michelle" is too obvious...maybe "Bambi"?

344 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:38:44am

Obama's Terrorism Stimulus Plan is working!

345 vxbush  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:38:50am

re: #335 Ward Cleaver

Has he lost his fucking mind?

We discussed this ad nauseum some weeks back. It's not something that is unique to Obama, as Bush apparently did the same thing. Obama is just continuing the program.

346 brookly red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:39:09am

re: #340 Walter L. Newton

Liberals?

that was too easy ;)

347 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:39:29am

re: #339 brookly red

Yeah, they are gonna start turning on each other soon...

Obama will manage somehow to piss off everybody; then he'll be done.

348 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:39:40am

re: #310 tastes like chicken

I'm still trying to confirm this, but this is alarming, if true:


The key word is MIGRATION...the person who sent this to me implied that it is assistance to relocate to the US. Anyone else know anything about this?

[Link: www.thefederalregister.com...]

What in the world?

349 vxbush  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:39:46am

re: #323 Nevergiveup

What do you call people who do the same thing over and over and over again and always expect a different outcome?

Senators.

350 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:39:52am

Question - What is the only thing worse than an incompetent liberal President?

Answer - A competent liberal President.

351 LGoPs  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:39:54am

re: #323 Nevergiveup

What do you call people who do the same thing over and over and over again and always expect a different outcome?

Leftists, Progresives, Liberals, Socialists, Communists, Democrats........take your pick

352 Nevergiveup  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:40:08am

re: #345 vxbush

We discussed this ad nauseum some weeks back. It's not something that is unique to Obama, as Bush apparently did the same thing. Obama is just continuing the program.

And it is not to let anyone into this country. It is just how the aid granted is worded.

353 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:40:15am

re: #329 Wyatt Earp

Democrats? Morons?

Stuttering?

;)

354 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:40:40am

re: #347 Ward Cleaver

Obama will manage somehow to piss off everybody; then he'll be done.

We'll know 0bama is in trouble when hordes of angry stockbrokers crowd the White House while carrying pitchforks and torches made out of worthless stock certificates.

355 vxbush  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:40:59am

re: #352 Nevergiveup

And it is not to let anyone into this country. It is just how the aid granted is worded.

I think that's right.

356 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:41:01am

re: #311 ploome hineni
Ploome that's just not true - Great Britain has been with us - with significant numbers of troops and aircraft actually fighting and dying on OUR SIDE in Afghanistan (not a "UN" war) as well as in Iraq. And they did it while Tony Blair was PM and was almost ousted from power for helping the US out in those situation.

357 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:41:12am

Question - What is the difference between a liberal and a puppy?

Answer - A puppy stops whining after it grows up.

358 annar  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:41:15am

They should not get a penny until they specifically renounce the barbaric verses of Muhammad's guide to conquest, the Qur'an, pertaining to mutilation as a means of punishment, the barbaric treatment of the so-called infidels any present or future plans to implement Shari'a, Hamas, Hezb'ullah and disarm under international supervision.

359 dhg4  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:41:51am

re: #253 Erik The Red

I don't pimp for karma but.........

Karma: 1,790

Erik The Red

(Logged in)
Registered since: Nov 15, 2007 at 6:18 pm
No. of comments posted: 3,053
No. of links posted: 0

Only 10 more for 1800. Help a sad Lizard out////

I kind of feel an obligation given that my birthday is Leif Erikson day!

360 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:42:04am

Jobless rate bolts to 8.1 percent
That's about half the unemployment rate in the EU. Very bad.

361 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:42:04am

re: #358 annar

Won't do any good. It'll be a lie. We're kafirs. It's ok to lie to us.

362 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:42:55am

re: #335 Ward Cleaver

Has he lost his fucking mind?

No, he's overloading the system to produce a crisis.

363 Nevergiveup  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:42:59am

re: #358 annar

They should not get a penny until they specifically renounce the barbaric verses of Muhammad's guide to conquest, the Qur'an, pertaining to mutilation as a means of punishment, the barbaric treatment of the so-called infidels any present or future plans to implement Shari'a, Hamas, Hezb'ullah and disarm under international supervision.

That would make to much sense. And that's also probably a "hate crime" under the new UN laws that say you can't say anything nasty about Islam?

364 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:43:09am

re: #310 tastes like chicken

I'm still trying to confirm this, but this is alarming, if true:


The key word is MIGRATION...the person who sent this to me implied that it is assistance to relocate to the US. Anyone else know anything about this?

[Link: www.thefederalregister.com...]

I sent this to Charles.

365 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:43:22am

re: #350 Dustyvet

Question - What is the only thing worse than an incompetent liberal President?

Answer - A competent liberal President.

The question is which is BHO?

I tending more and more to a competent Marxist president.
Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

366 Rancher  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:43:34am

Does this include our $900,000,000 contribution?

367 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:43:34am
368 brookly red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:43:37am

re: #347 Ward Cleaver

Obama will manage somehow to piss off everybody; then he'll be done.

I think that you are right.

369 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:43:50am

re: #336 Wyatt Earp

Was Zero on TV again? he is the death knell for the Dow.

This may sound stange to everyone out there, but I almost feel lucky that things worked out for me the way they did. Five years ago when I was laid off from the DOE contract that I was working on for 13 years, and then my ex-wife decided to bail, I cashed in my small retirement portfolio so I could get started again, since I walked away from the marriage with nothing.

And I paid off a lot of bills and stuff when I saw things going to hell. Now, I know that the stock market levels still effect me, but probably not as much as a lot of people.

What I am trying to say is, the downsizing I've done, both in liabilities and in employment income, the connections I've made to caring friends and people in the community, all makes me feel less threatened in this current situation.

Maybe all the poop that hit the fan five years ago was a "course correction" that was needed to help me get through these times.

370 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:43:52am

re: #354 Kosh's Shadow

We'll know 0bama is in trouble when hordes of angry stockbrokers crowd the White House while carrying pitchforks and torches made out of worthless stock certificates.

Papier mache'!

371 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:43:53am

re: #341 MandyManners

We're too busy watching that gyrating thingy.

This one?

372 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:43:54am

liberalism - the glue that held the Manson Family together

373 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:44:14am

re: #362 Kenneth

No, he's overloading the system to produce a crisis.

Where in the fuck are we gonna' put them? Detroit? Minnesota? Shelbyville, TN? Nashville? (The former have lotsa' Somalis and Kurds, respectively.)

374 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:44:56am

re: #337 ConservatismNow! Absolutely correct and I didn't leave them out because of neglect or because I don't value their friendship, but because I was addressing a specific comment made about Great Britain.
Although it's interesting that you mentioned Poland as well - wonder how long they'll remain an all if we DON'T come through with the ABM system we promised them, even thought the Russian bear was growling at them for accepting and signing a treaty with us to do so (put US ABM on Polish territory).

375 Ty85719  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:45:25am

Perhaps all of these donors can be brought up on charges of funding terrorism - one can hope, can't they?

376 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:45:38am

re: #310 tastes like chicken

I'm still trying to confirm this, but this is alarming, if true:

The key word is MIGRATION...the person who sent this to me implied that it is assistance to relocate to the US. Anyone else know anything about this?

[Link: www.thefederalregister.com...]

Presidential Determination No. 2009-15 of January 27,
2009


Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs
Related To Gaza

Memorandum for the Secretary of State

.gov records site.....

377 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:46:07am

re: #374 realwest
PIMF: ramain an ally.
Sigh.

378 FloridaAnole  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:46:18am

re: #347 Ward Cleaver

Obama will manage somehow to piss off everybody; then he'll be done.

Hope for Change!

379 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:46:45am

re: #365 jcm

The question is which is BHO?

I tending more and more to a competent Marxist president.
Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

Did you get the link to The Nation article from Kenneth?

380 bulwrk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:46:46am

re: #310 tastes like chicken

Oh its true,it was discussed here on an open thread a few weeks ago.

381 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:46:46am

re: #310 tastes like chicken

The key word is MIGRATION...the person who sent this to me implied that it is assistance to relocate to the US. Anyone else know anything about this?

This has been discussed here before. It does not, at this moment at least, appear to contemplate bringing them here.

382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:46:54am

re: #369 Walter L. Newton

Very nicely said, Walter.

383 turn  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:47:47am

Uh oh, 14 bil can buy a whole lot-o-rockets.

384 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:47:53am

re: #369 Walter L. Newton

I'm trying hard to count my blessing too. I've always been very poor my entire adult life and I've always earned a pretty low hourly wage. Although I had some modest success the last 2 years I've maintained a very modest lifestyle. I can hunker down and make it through the next few years until the economy recovers.

385 lifeofthemind  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:47:54am

Good day, the news from Zimbabwe is important, maybe the Brits will deliver Mugabe's retirement package

386 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:48:03am

re: #371 Occasional Reader

This one?

Oh, the hips! They twist and twitch!

387 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:48:15am

re: #372 Dustyvet

liberalism - the glue that held the Manson Family together

He did like to play the race card.

388 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:48:17am

re: #373 MandyManners

Where in the fuck are we gonna' put them? Detroit? Minnesota? Shelbyville, TN? Nashville? (The former have lotsa' Somalis and Kurds, respectively.)

How about the subway systems in different cities? They seem to enjoy tunnels.

389 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:48:24am

re: #351 LGoPs
I dibs all of the above!

390 vxbush  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:48:36am

Gonna go take a walk before the afternoon shift. Later, scaly ones.

391 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:48:38am

re: #365 jcm

Click my nic, I'll send you the file.

392 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:48:38am

re: #319 NJDhockeyfan

I saw a clip of Letterman doing a joke about Obama's taxes last night. It was about those people who won the lottery. He said after Obama takes the taxes out of their winnings they will have enough left over to buy another lottery ticket.

After the past 8 years Letterman is funny again?

393 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:48:40am

re: #319 NJDhockeyfan

I saw a clip of Letterman doing a joke about Obama's taxes last night. It was about those people who won the lottery. He said after Obama takes the taxes out of their winnings they will have enough left over to buy another lottery ticket.

I can't wait til the voluntary statist media decides to turn on Mr. President. It will be ugly.

394 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:49:06am

re: #385 lifeofthemind

Good day, the news from Zimbabwe is important, maybe the Brits will deliver Mugabe's retirement package

A couple of rounds from a 9mm would make a good parting gift.

395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:49:16am

re: #384 Killgore Trout

I can't. Family, mortgage, etc.

I'd be a great single poor person. Don't need much.

I have people who depend on me to a degree where, frankly, I'm a bit frightened.

396 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:49:38am

A Democrat found a magic genie's lamp and rubbed it. The genie said, "I will grant you
one wish." He said, "I wish I were smarter". So the genie made him a Republican.

397 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:49:45am

re: #388 Walter L. Newton

How about the subway systems in different cities? They seem to enjoy tunnels.

LOL!

398 lifeofthemind  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:50:09am

re: #394 Ward Cleaver

A couple of rounds from a 9mm would make a good parting gift.

I was more nuanced in my delivery.

399 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:50:11am
400 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:50:21am

Q: How is a Liberal different from a sewer rat?

A: Some people actually like sewer rats.

401 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:50:43am

re: #400 Dustyvet

Q: How is a Liberal different from a sewer rat?

A: Some people actually like sewer rats.

Sewer rats are edible.

402 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:50:52am

re: #394 Ward Cleaver

A couple of rounds from a 9mm would make a good parting gift.

Obama has some DVD's in the mail for him...
/

403 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:50:55am

re: #395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can't. Family, mortgage, etc.

I'd be a great single poor person. Don't need much.

I have people who depend on me to a degree where, frankly, I'm a bit frightened.

I'm very fortunate to be single with no kids. People with families have much more to worry about.

404 turn  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:51:12am

re: #399 buzzsawmonkey

I'd like to see that rate adjusted to discount the chronic welfare recipients Obama supporters.

/fixed

405 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:51:16am

re: #398 lifeofthemind

I was more nuanced in my delivery.

Will the SAS be the lucky presenters?

406 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:51:24am

Anyone seen the new Syrian Barbie?

Fulla can accessorize with hundreds of head scarves, but don't expect any bikinis or boyfriends.

407 Nevergiveup  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:51:33am

re: #385 lifeofthemind

Good day, the news from Zimbabwe is important, maybe the Brits will deliver Mugabe's retirement package

Zimbabwe's Tsvangirai Hurt in Car Crash, Wife Killed

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Oh yeah?

408 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:51:46am

re: #406 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone seen the new Syrian Barbie?

A pink AK?

409 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:51:58am

re: #399 buzzsawmonkey

I'd like to see that rate adjusted to discount the chronic welfare recipients.

I think 'octomom' alone accounts for the .1 in the 8.1 percent.
In her defense at least her brood are legal.

410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:52:02am

Hotel lobby... Midnight at the Oasis is playing over the intercom system.

You don't need no camel, no no
When I take you for a ride....

heh

411 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:52:08am

re: #367 ploome hineni
Again, with respect, the Brits did more than be "symbols" over there and again you ingnore Afghanistan which most assuredly was NOT a UN operation.
And do you not find it the least ironic to say:
"this is a UN effort..98% of the soldiers are American"?

412 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:52:09am

re: #354 Kosh's Shadow

We'll know 0bama is in trouble when hordes of angry stockbrokers crowd the White House while carrying pitchforks and torches made out of worthless stock certificates.

We'll ram him with our wheelbarrows!

413 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:52:24am

re: #379 MandyManners

Did you get the link to The Nation article from Kenneth?

Missed that one.... 3/4 lurking this morning.

414 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:52:47am

re: #393 Oh no...Sand People!

I can't wait til the voluntary statist media decides to turn on Mr. President. It will be ugly.

They better do it soon before they're nationalized as a "bailout".

415 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:52:50am
416 FloridaAnole  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:00am

re: #373 MandyManners

Where in the fuck are we gonna' put them? Detroit? Minnesota? Shelbyville, TN? Nashville? (The former have lotsa' Somalis and Kurds, respectively.)

Berkeley CA, Cambridge, MA, Santa Fe NM, Seattle, WA, Boulder CO, and let us not forget NEW YORK CIY -- especially between the Hudson and Central Park West - north of 79th Street

417 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:01am

re: #407 Nevergiveup

Zimbabwe's Tsvangirai Hurt in Car Crash, Wife Killed

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Oh yeah?

I don't know about Zimbabwe, but I've heard that the RSA has some of the worst drivers.

418 turn  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:08am

re: #406 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone seen the new Syrian Barbie?

Favorite accessory, frilled strap on bomb belts.

419 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:10am

re: #382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Very nicely said, Walter.

re: #384 Killgore Trout

I'm trying hard to count my blessing too. I've always been very poor my entire adult life and I've always earned a pretty low hourly wage. Although I had some modest success the last 2 years I've maintained a very modest lifestyle. I can hunker down and make it through the next few years until the economy recovers.

Thanks.

And that's my point for anyone out there who may be coming into this "period" with similar circumstances as myself. If things have downsized for you, by design or by someone's else's hands, it may be some sort of blessing.

Sure, I stay concerned, on a daily basis, with what happens, both in the world and personally, but all of it also makes me realize that I may be more prepared than some people who are really taking a beating.

420 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:24am
421 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:28am

re: #394 Ward Cleaver

I'd prefer to see Mugabe dancing from the end of a rope, given the murderous bastard's firm grip on power at the expense of his country, where inflation is a mind boggling 231 million percent (or doubling every time you look). He's ignored the cholera epidemic and continues his crackdown against the opposition MDC. At the same time, it's disgusting that South Africa is now trying to shutter a clinic at its border with Zimbabwe which is caring for 3-4,000 suffering from cholera.

422 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:43am

Prayers for Morgan Tsvangiri and his late wife, BTW.

423 DistantThunder  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:46am

re: #392 debutaunt

After the past 8 years Letterman is funny again?

Obama response: "Do you know who I am?"

424 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:49am

re: #412 debutaunt

We'll ram him with our wheelbarrows!

You can't have mine, it's full of 1 gazilliointrillion dollar bills...off to the store to buy a loaf of bread...
/

425 wiffersnapper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:50am

And if Israel was getting windfall, the whole world would shit their pants

426 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:50am

re: #415 buzzsawmonkey

Does it come with or without the Honor Killing Kit?

I think it has a few sheets of stick on bruises.

427 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:52am

re: #392 debutaunt

After the past 8 years Letterman is funny again?

WriterMom posted this yesterday. I bust a gut just thinking about it.

Youtube Video
428 FloridaAnole  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:53:54am

re: #393 Oh no...Sand People!

I can't wait til the voluntary statist media decides to turn on Mr. President. It will be ugly.

Good -- I'm developing a taste for ugly.

429 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:54:06am

re: #406 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone seen the new Syrian Barbie?

Fulla can accessorize with hundreds of head scarves, and explosive vests but don't expect any bikinis or boyfriends.

Fixed it for 'em.

430 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:54:15am

The original Cloward-Piven strategy proposed overloading the welfare system. Obama has taken that idea several steps further. He & the Democrats have already overloaded the world financial system by mandating the sub-prime mortgage program. Activists are working on overloading the immigrations system. Obama's financier, George Soros, was the major funder for the pro-immigrations amnesty rallies. Obama is now seeking to overload the US gov't by pushing through the largest deficit budget in history.

432 Nevergiveup  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:55:09am

Oregon Army Captain Charged With Stealing $690,000

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nguyen, a 2004 West Point graduate, is assigned to Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 4th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division.

Well say what you want, but he did show initiative?

433 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:55:12am

re: #414 Kosh's Shadow

They better do it soon before they're nationalized as a "bailout".

They will officially be the 'Ministry of Truth', as opposed to just being the 'unofficial' Ministry of Truth.

434 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:55:15am

re: #393 Oh no...Sand People!

I can't wait til the voluntary statist media decides to turn on Mr. President. It will be ugly.


Or beautiful, depending on your POV./

435 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:55:29am

re: #415 buzzsawmonkey

Does it come with or without the Honor Killing Kit?

The Syrian Barbie has an easily removable and replaceable head so you can get days of fun playing about honor killings.

436 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:55:50am

re: #416 FloridaAnole

Berkeley CA, Cambridge, MA, Santa Fe NM, Seattle, WA, Boulder CO, and let us not forget NEW YORK CIY -- especially between the Hudson and Central Park West - north of 79th Street

Video: Minnesota Mosque Probed for Terror Ties


[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]

437 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:56:02am

re: #430 Kenneth

The original Cloward-Piven strategy proposed overloading the welfare system. Obama has taken that idea several steps further. He & the Democrats have already overloaded the world financial system by mandating the sub-prime mortgage program. Activists are working on overloading the immigrations system. Obama's financier, George Soros, was the major funder for the pro-immigrations amnesty rallies. Obama is now seeking to overload the US gov't by pushing through the largest deficit budget in history.

Can you repost the link to The Nation article? I missed it!

438 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:56:38am

Enter Your slogan for DNC anti-Rush Limbaugh billboard

(ChattahBox) — The Democratic National Committee figures they’ll just keep stirring the Rush Limbaugh pot. They’re asking Democrats to contribute potential slogans for a billboard ad they plan on purchasing in West Palm Beach, Fla., where Limbaugh makes his home.

After filling in your suggested slogan here, the DNC convenintly takes you to a page where you can make a donation (not required though). Of course, if this contest goes viral, they will have lots of new e-mail addresses from individuals they can later solicit. I couldn’t resist and my 10 word or less banner suggestion was: ‘Caution hot air known to blow hard in this area’.

439 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:57:21am

re: #437 jcm

I can't post the whole thing here here, but if you click on my blue nic I will be happy to email you the pdf.

440 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:57:26am

re: #431 Ojoe

Excellent passing clouds. Towercam. See the beauty of Creation, above all squalid politics.

Wow, the clouds are awesome, and the snow is slowly melting away. This is one of those times I wish I had a transporter room, so I could be beamed down there, just to enjoy the view for a few minutes.

441 DistantThunder  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:57:48am

re: #403 Killgore Trout

I'm very fortunate to be single with no kids. People with families have much more to worry about.

It's mainly because of our concern for our kids that we have been preparing for these hard times for years. If you are prepared, you shall not fear. And we are part of a larger community that has focused on preparedness, which helps to spread the risk voluntarily.

Example is that we recently ran out of firewood because we had an exceptionally cold winter, and only use a wood stove to heat the house. Three different families offered us as much free wood as we needed. These families all have at least a year's supply of food as well. It is a great comfort.

442 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:57:49am

re: #358 annar Please see my #182 - perhaps more realistic, but probably just as unlikely.

443 Opinionated  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:58:08am

One hating Jews was just for fun.

Now an entire economy can be based just on that hate.

The entire GDP of the 'Palestinians' is based on donations to feed their hate and kill Jews industry.

444 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:59:00am

re: #432 Nevergiveup

Oregon Army Captain Charged With Stealing $690,000

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nguyen, a 2004 West Point graduate, is assigned to Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 4th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division.

Well say what you want, but he did show initiative?

What's up at Ft. Lewis? This clown, Capt. James "Youssef" Yee and First Lt. Ehren K. Watada. Must be something in the WA water supply.

445 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:59:23am

re: #434 VioletTiger

Or beautiful, depending on your POV./

I can just see Chrissy Matthews leg tingle disappearing quite fast. I bet the MSM who claims everyone who opposed Mr. President as being racist will be the first one's to start toeing the 'racial divide' and start saying nuanced remarks. I have 20 dollars that by the end of 2010 Olby or Matthews will melt down and lose their job over a racist remark.

$20 bucks now. / .05 cents in 2010 dollars after accounting for inflation. Any takers?

446 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:59:23am

re: #438 NJDhockeyfan

They are giving Rush the biggest audience he ever had. They think they are going to take him down, but they are making him an icon.

447 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:59:23am

re: #416 FloridaAnole
Whoa, hold on there - how's about the state of Maine?
Big enough state, lots of "unimproved property" friendly, leftist voters, too!
I'm sure Senators Snowe and Collins would accept them with open arms!
/

448 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:59:25am

re: #438 NJDhockeyfan

Enter Your slogan for DNC anti-Rush Limbaugh billboard

I hope they enjoy mine. ;-)

449 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:59:38am

On my "frankly I'm frightened" thing a little back. I'd like to say one more thing...If you'll allow it....

FUCK YOU SUZIE ORMAN! YOU SCARED THE ABSOLUTE SHIT OUT OF MY WIFE THE OTHER DAY WHEN YOU SPECIFICALLY TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO REMODEL THEIR KITCHENS, TO SAVE THEIR MONEY.

THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF AMERICANS WHO'S LIVELIHOODS DEPEND ON PEOPLE WHO REMODEL THEIR KITCHENS.

MY WIFE HASN'T SLEPT FOR THREE NIGHTS.

FUCK YOU SUZIE ORMAN, YOU FUCKING BITCH!

Sorry. I just had to get that out of my system.

450 Nevergiveup  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 9:59:52am

re: #444 jcm

What's up at Ft. Lewis? This clown, Capt. James "Youssef" Yee and First Lt. Ehren K. Watada. Must be something in the WA water supply.

Is Watada the guy who wouldn't deploy?

451 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:00:00am

re: #438 NJDhockeyfan

Enter Your slogan for DNC anti-Rush Limbaugh billboard

Death to Free Speech!

452 FloridaAnole  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:01:05am

re: #438 NJDhockeyfan

Enter Your slogan for DNC anti-Rush Limbaugh billboard

I regret to inform them that Rush lives in Palm Beach an exclusive barrier island across the Intracoastal from West Palm. If they try to put up a billboard in Palm Beach, they will be beaten to death by civic-minded socialites wielding Manolo Blahniks and and Ferragamos.

453 LGoPs  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:01:11am

re: #365 jcm

The question is which is BHO?

I tending more and more to a competent Marxist president.
Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

That is an excellent article. This is truly the enemy within. We have been taken over from inside.

454 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:01:16am
455 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:01:20am

re: #315 oh_dude

They can take all the polar bears they are trying to save and the wolves they want to reintroduce. We'll gladly tranq 'em for you and ship them to Central Park and turn 'em loose. We never wanted 'em any way but we'll see how you like when they start mauling people and eating your pets.

456 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:01:40am

re: #450 Nevergiveup

Is Watada the guy who wouldn't deploy?

Yep.....

457 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:01:41am

re: #449 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

On my "frankly I'm frightened" thing a little back. I'd like to say one more thing...If you'll allow it....

FUCK YOU SUZIE ORMAN! YOU SCARED THE ABSOLUTE SHIT OUT OF MY WIFE THE OTHER DAY WHEN YOU SPECIFICALLY TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO REMODEL THEIR KITCHENS, TO SAVE THEIR MONEY.

THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF AMERICANS WHO'S LIVELIHOODS DEPEND ON PEOPLE WHO REMODEL THEIR KITCHENS.

MY WIFE HASN'T SLEPT FOR THREE NIGHTS.

FUCK YOU SUZIE ORMAN, YOU FUCKING BITCH!

Sorry. I just had to get that out of my system.

Oprah likes her, so she's worthless in my book.

458 bulwrk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:01:44am

re: #415 buzzsawmonkey

Does it come with or without the Honor Killing Kit?

No that and the black eye and severely bruised sticker kit are sold separately.

459 Erik The Red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:01:45am

Thank you {Lizards}. Like I said I have more things going on tonight than I can deal with. I CAN NOT MULTITASK. See you on the LNDT.

Stay dry and Scaley.

460 FloridaAnole  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:02:22am

re: #447 realwest

Whoa, hold on there - how's about the state of Maine?
Big enough state, lots of "unimproved property" friendly, leftist voters, too!
I'm sure Senators Snowe and Collins would accept them with open arms!
/

Ooops! My bad! By all means, let's add Maine.

461 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:02:40am

re: #440 Ward Cleaver

Wow, the clouds are awesome, and the snow is slowly melting away. This is one of those times I wish I had a transporter room, so I could be beamed down there, just to enjoy the view for a few minutes.

I don't have a transporter, but I do have the new Star Trek trailer.

462 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:02:53am

re: #452 FloridaAnole

I regret to inform them that Rush lives in Palm Beach an exclusive barrier island across the Intracoastal from West Palm. If they try to put up a billboard in Palm Beach, they will be beaten to death by civic-minded socialites wielding Manolo Blahniks and and Ferragamos.

Or get run over by a Mercedes-Benz G-Wagen.

463 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:02:54am

re: #439 Kenneth

I can't post the whole thing here here, but if you click on my blue nic I will be happy to email you the pdf.

I'm at work can you post a link to the .pdf (right click and copy link) if not I'll email you tonight for it.

464 Erik The Red  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:03:06am

re: #457 Ward Cleaver

Oprah likes her, so she's worthless in my book.

Fuck Oprah. Bring on Ellen.

465 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:03:11am

re: #446 VioletTiger

They are giving Rush the biggest audience he ever had. They think they are going to take him down, but they are making him an icon.

Just like the woman who wanted to get "Married...With Children" off the air.
Her campaign got people to watch the show, and its ratings went way up.
Before her, it might have gotten canceled due to poor ratings.

Rush should contribute to the billboard campaign.

Years ago, Rocky and Bullwinkle had a story line about a hat which would make you smart. The hat was the "Kerwood Derby". Derwood Kirby threatened to sue. Jay Ward, the producer, said "Go ahead. I'll even pay for the lawyer. The publicity would be worth it." The suit was dropped.

466 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:03:28am

re: #457 Ward Cleaver

From a song...

"Sometimes I see me, a sailor out on the ocean...
So brave and so sure, as long as the skies are clear...
But when the clouds start to gather, I watch my faith turn to fear..."

467 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:03:31am

re: #444 jcm

What's up at Ft. Lewis? This clown, Capt. James "Youssef" Yee and First Lt. Ehren K. Watada. Must be something in the WA water supply.

Nguyen, a 2004 West Point graduate, Oh that's rich, this bastard is a frigging "Ring Knocker"


/S

468 Harry Tuttle  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:03:35am

re: #449 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

On my "frankly I'm frightened" thing a little back. I'd like to say one more thing...If you'll allow it....

FUCK YOU SUZIE ORMAN! YOU SCARED THE ABSOLUTE SHIT OUT OF MY WIFE THE OTHER DAY WHEN YOU SPECIFICALLY TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO REMODEL THEIR KITCHENS, TO SAVE THEIR MONEY.

THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF AMERICANS WHO'S LIVELIHOODS DEPEND ON PEOPLE WHO REMODEL THEIR KITCHENS.

MY WIFE HASN'T SLEPT FOR THREE NIGHTS.

FUCK YOU SUZIE ORMAN, YOU FUCKING BITCH!

Sorry. I just had to get that out of my system.

Don't hold back buddy tell us how you really feel.

You know I actually am looking at a kitchen remodel myself...

469 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:04:28am

Even Whoopie Goldberg is getting a clue....

GOLDBERG: Well, I’ll tell you, I don’t mind paying taxes because I know I make a lot of dough and you want to give some. Okay? That’s the way it’s supposed to be. That’s the way it’s supposed to be because if you have you want to give. That’s the way, that’s why it’s set up this way. But I am sick and tired of being taxed because I’ve done well for myself. I don’t understand why I am paying the kind- look, look at the phone bill. Let me just read this to you. Federal Universal Service Fund, what the Hell is that? What is it?
470 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:04:32am

re: #438 NJDhockeyfan
In one of the links I put in the spin off links (the one about 35% believing that you can't earn a living without government assistance, Rasmussen made this comment as well:

Rasmussen Reports is testing public reaction to a series of quotes made by newsmakers recently. Yesterday, data was released showing that just 11% of Americans agreed with the statement that “Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party. He says jump, and they say how high.” That statement came from Brad Woodhouse, president of the liberal advocacy group Americans United for Change, which is running television ads nationwide criticizing Limbaugh's ties to the GOP.
471 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:04:53am

re: #453 LGoPs

Send me an email (click my blue nic) & I'll send you the original essay by Cloward & Piven. Obama is following an updated & expanded version of the original strategy. He is trying to overload every institution that supports the US system: banking, immigration, military, welfare... you name it.

472 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:05:01am

re: #427 MandyManners

WriterMom posted this yesterday. I bust a gut just thinking about it.



I loved it!

473 DistantThunder  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:05:04am

re: #427 MandyManners

I feeel so guilty for finding that so funny. Yowza!

474 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:05:50am

re: #468 Harry Tuttle

Don't hold back buddy tell us how you really feel.

You know I actually am looking at a kitchen remodel myself...

Sorry. These people on the news are truly frightening people. I love my wife, and she is a strong woman in many ways... but Suzie scared the shit out of her.

475 Nevergiveup  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:06:47am

re: #467 Dustyvet

Nguyen, a 2004 West Point graduate, Oh that's rich, this bastard is a frigging "Ring Knocker"

/S

When I was in Dental School, one of my class mates was a West Point Grad, being put thru Dental School by the Army. After he graduated with his Dental License, he started selling drugs. The Army caught him. The prosecutor in the case was a class mate of his at the Point. Can you say Leavenworth? Dishonorable discharge and also losses his dental license. Talk about fucking up.

476 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:06:48am

re: #449 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now if you were a licensed plumber, in my area (Seattle), and did bathroom remodels I might be able to convince me mum to consider hiring a lizard. The basement half-bath needs a complete do-over.

477 Shakey Jakey  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:06:58am

re: #449 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Upding for that. I'm, a sales rep for a Plbg & Htg wholesaler and one thing we don't need is for someone to tell people not to spend their money.

478 Pygmalienation  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:07:15am

$14B... Charming
/Dirty Harry The Enforcer

479 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:07:19am

re: #463 jcm

There's no link. I paid for a download from the source publication. Terms of use don't allow full reposting, but I can print sufficient copies to share with my students. You're in my college class: Understanding the Threat: Obama & The Cloward-Piven Strategy.

480 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:07:52am

re: #406 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone seen the new Syrian Barbie?

Barbie in a burkha.

481 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:07:54am

re: #465 Kosh's Shadow

Just like the woman who wanted to get "Married...With Children" off the air.
Her campaign got people to watch the show, and its ratings went way up.
Before her, it might have gotten canceled due to poor ratings.

Rush should contribute to the billboard campaign.

Years ago, Rocky and Bullwinkle had a story line about a hat which would make you smart. The hat was the "Kerwood Derby". Derwood Kirby threatened to sue. Jay Ward, the producer, said "Go ahead. I'll even pay for the lawyer. The publicity would be worth it." The suit was dropped.

It's scary, but I remember Durward Kirby, from Candid Camera and some TV commercials.

482 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:08:19am

re: #440 Ward Cleaver

Wow, the clouds are awesome, and the snow is slowly melting away. This is one of those times I wish I had a transporter room, so I could be beamed down there, just to enjoy the view for a few minutes.

I'd be happy with an itty bitty transporter that would revolutionize the dental industry. Just be careful to hit the wisdom tooth and not the brain behind it.

483 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:08:42am

re: #416 FloridaAnole

Berkeley CA, Cambridge, MA, Santa Fe NM, Seattle, WA, Boulder CO, and let us not forget NEW YORK CIY -- especially between the Hudson and Central Park West - north of 79th Street

How about a lot in Hyde Park, Chicago?

484 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:09:00am

re: #464 Erik The Red

Nice looking karma there, Erik.

485 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:09:25am

re: #480 MandyManners

Barbie in a burkha.

[Link: www.metacafe.com...]

486 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:09:44am

re: #469 jcm
Hey jcm! Whoopi's "rant" was LAST year - wait until this year and especially 2010 - she'll become a Republican and with any luck,literally bitch slap that Joy whatsername person!

487 Harry Tuttle  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:09:56am

re: #474 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sorry. These people on the news are truly frightening people. I love my wife, and she is a strong woman in many ways... but Suzie scared the shit out of her.

Ooops, I was being sarcastic.

I agree with you FUCK THE BOZOS! :-)

488 gymmom  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:10:34am

re: #427 MandyManners

WriterMom posted this yesterday. I bust a gut just thinking about it.


Very Funny! Thanks for reposting that while my kids are at school!

489 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:10:47am

re: #480 MandyManners

Barbie in a burkha.

Kinda makes you want to sneak into the store in the middle of the night and pull her skirt up around her hips and put the box back together, don't it?

490 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:10:51am

re: #452 FloridaAnole

I regret to inform them that Rush lives in Palm Beach an exclusive barrier island across the Intracoastal from West Palm. If they try to put up a billboard in Palm Beach, they will be beaten to death by civic-minded socialites wielding Manolo Blahniks and and Ferragamos.

What - no Jimmy Choos? Awww ...

//////

491 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:10:58am

re: #479 Kenneth

There's no link. I paid for a download from the source publication. Terms of use don't allow full reposting, but I can print sufficient copies to share with my students. You're in my college class: Understanding the Threat: Obama & The Cloward-Piven Strategy.

I logged onto my personal email account, email on the way.

Thanks Professor!

492 DistantThunder  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:11:16am

Rush just said that Whoopie went on another anti-tax rent today on the View. Tick, tick, tick....

493 FloridaAnole  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:11:22am

re: #483 MandyManners

How about a lot in Hyde Park, Chicago?

The very thing! You've but to ask, Mandy!

494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:11:38am

re: #487 Harry Tuttle

Oh, that's fine. Didn't take it for anything other than sarcasm. It's okay.

495 LindaMarie  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:11:44am

re: #323 Nevergiveup

What do you call people who do the same thing over and over and over again and always expect a different outcome?

"Stuck on Stupid"

someone here used that term

496 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:11:49am

re: #482 Pullus Iulius

I'd be happy with an itty bitty transporter that would revolutionize the dental industry. Just be careful to hit the wisdom tooth and not the brain behind it.

That should be easy on moonbats. The brain is so small it would be easy to miss.

497 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:12:05am

re: #480 MandyManners

Barbie in a burkha.

Barbie with a bomb-belt.

498 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:12:13am

re: #486 realwest

Hey jcm! Whoopi's "rant" was LAST year - wait until this year and especially 2010 - she'll become a Republican and with any luck,literally bitch slap that Joy whatsername person!

Heh.... heard it on the radio this morning... my bad.....

Well if she thinks GWB's taxes were bad.........

499 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:12:17am

re: #416 FloridaAnole

Berkeley CA, Cambridge, MA, Santa Fe NM, Seattle, WA, Boulder CO, and let us not forget NEW YORK CIY -- especially between the Hudson and Central Park West - north of 79th Street

Do you really want to exceed the moonbat critical mass of all those cities? They are already close enough to the edge for a massive chain reaction; adding more would be a catastrophe of biblical proportions.

500 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:12:37am

re: #457 Ward Cleaver

If you have the ability to finance home improvements without taking lines of credit or loans against your home values, it's a good idea, especially if you intend to stay in that home for more than a year or two. If you're using a HELOC or home loan to do the home improvement, you have to check your improvement versus what you expect it will make back.

Putting in a $60k kitchen in a home where home values don't support it makes no sense. A $10k remodel might make more sense. Or $30k. If you're going to get back $25k in increased value.

What do you get for your money? That's a big question. Some home improvements aren't going to give you the same bang for the buck as others (and it varies by region/community). Kitchens and baths are always at the top of the list, but they have to be in the range for the community where you live. It's common sense, but common sense is something that has been missing from real estate for far too long and the new environment is starting to feel what it means to be subject to the basics of economics.

501 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:12:46am

re: #497 MandyManners

Barbie with a bomb-belt.


Ba-Ba-Boom Barbie!

502 LGoPs  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:12:54am

re: #471 Kenneth

Thanks I will. At work now but will do it from home......

503 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:13:34am
504 FloridaAnole  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:13:37am

re: #499 FurryOldGuyJeans

Do you really want to exceed the moonbat critical mass of all those cities? They are already close enough to the edge for a massive chain reaction; adding more would be a catastrophe of biblical proportions.

Good.

505 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:14:17am

re: #468 Harry Tuttle

I'm looking at getting new doors for the house, getting some electrical upgrades, and replacing the asphalt driveway... and that's after doing the roof, some plumbing, and putting in a new window and insulated garage door - and putting in attic insulation myself. You can't blame me for the economic mess, I'm doing my part to stimulate the economic, especially those parts that consider themselves green.

506 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:14:24am

re: #474 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sorry. These people on the news are truly frightening people. I love my wife, and she is a strong woman in many ways... but Suzie scared the shit out of her.

Tell your wife that nobody listens to stupid Susie. She is the Geraldo Rivera of finance.

507 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:15:04am

re: #492 DistantThunder

Rush just said that Whoopie went on another anti-tax rent today on the View. Tick, tick, tick....

I knew Whoopie was racist and unpatriotic...
/

508 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:15:15am

re: #506 VioletTiger

Tell your wife that nobody listens to stupid Susie. She is the Geraldo Rivera of finance.

That might work if she had not listened to her.

/

509 XMarine  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:15:35am

re: #315 oh_dude

The Right in America want a Divorce

P.S. You can also have Barbara Streisand and Jane Fonda


I agree with all of this, except that we should keep Jane Fonda so we can throw the traitorous bitch in jail where she belongs.

510 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:15:43am

OT -

It doesn't sound too serious (good prognosis), but former Monkee Peter Tork could use some prayers:

Former Monkees Member Peter Tork Suffering From Rare Cancer

511 Dustyvet  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:16:37am

re: #490 yma o hyd

What - no Jimmy Choos? Awww ...

//////

Two 90 year old men, Mike and Joe, have been friends all of their lives.

When it's clear that Joe is dying, Mike visits him every day.

One day Mike says, 'Joe, we both loved rugby all our lives, and we played rugby on Saturdays together for so many years. Please do me one favour, when you get to Heaven, somehow you must let me know if there's rugby there.'

Joe looks up at Mike from his death bed and says: "Mike, you've been my best friend for many years. If it's at all possible, I'll do this favour for you."

Shortly after that, Joe passes on.

At midnight a couple of nights later, Mike is awakened from a sound sleep by a blinding flash of white light and a voice calling out to him, "Mike--Mike."

"Who is it?" Asks Mike sitting up suddenly. "Who is it?"

"Mike--it's me, Joe..."

"You're not Joe. Joe just died."

"I'm telling you, it's me, Joe." insists the voice.

"Joe! Where are you?"

"In heaven", replies Joe. "I have some really good news and a little bad news."

"'Tell me the good news first," says Mike.

"The good news," Joe says, is that there's rugby in heaven. Better yet, all of our old friends who died before us are here, too. Better than that, we're all young again. Better still, it's always spring time and it never rains or snows. And best of all, we can play rugby all we want, and we never get tired."

"'That's fantastic," says Mike. "It's beyond my wildest dreams! So what could possibly be the bad news?'"

"You're in the team for Tuesday."

512 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:16:54am

re: #502 LGoPs

I'll try to be online this evening for a little while. If not, ask around, a few other lizards have already got it from me.

513 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:17:00am

re: #500 lawhawk

If you have the ability to finance home improvements without taking lines of credit or loans against your home values, it's a good idea, especially if you intend to stay in that home for more than a year or two. If you're using a HELOC or home loan to do the home improvement, you have to check your improvement versus what you expect it will make back.

Putting in a $60k kitchen in a home where home values don't support it makes no sense. A $10k remodel might make more sense. Or $30k. If you're going to get back $25k in increased value.

What do you get for your money? That's a big question. Some home improvements aren't going to give you the same bang for the buck as others (and it varies by region/community). Kitchens and baths are always at the top of the list, but they have to be in the range for the community where you live. It's common sense, but common sense is something that has been missing from real estate for far too long and the new environment is starting to feel what it means to be subject to the basics of economics.

We just painted our kitchen, and we plan to paint the cabinets, and get ceramic tile for the floor.

514 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:17:09am

re: #480 MandyManners

Barbie in a burkha.

Suicide bomber Barbie

515 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:17:53am
516 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:18:35am

re: #514 Alouette

Suicide bomber Barbie

GMTA!

517 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:18:39am

Well, folks...gotta run. bbl.

518 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:18:50am
519 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:19:00am

re: #515 buzzsawmonkey

Where's the after shot?

Image: doll_parts.jpg

520 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:19:14am

re: #510 Ward Cleaver

Peter Tork was the one decent musician in the Monkeys. my best wishes for him.

Youtube Video
521 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:19:34am

re: #515 buzzsawmonkey

Where's the after shot?

Ken's Custodial Company: No Job is Too Small.

522 FloridaAnole  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:19:57am

Well, I'm off! (In more ways than one).

523 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:20:10am

re: #519 Walter L. Newton

[Link: img.dannychoo.com...]

Oh, man. I thought my No. 521 was icky.

524 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:20:20am
525 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:20:23am

re: #518 buzzsawmonkey

The official Barbie Stoning Kit has a very nice selection of gravel.

Why did that give me an image of the rock sellers before the stoning scene in Monty Python's Life of Brian.
"look at the quality of that, Sir. You don't find that lying around on the ground."

526 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:20:25am

re: #521 MandyManners

Ding me down, please.

527 NukeAtomrod  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:20:46am

In light of this, Israel would be fully justified in pursuing a policy of regime change by military force in the Palestinian territories before the Palestinians can cash their aid checks. Hamas is at war with Israel. Giving aid to Palestine aids Hamas. Aid to Hamas is a threat to Israel's national security.

Why does the western world demand that Israel sacrifice their people for the pipe-dream of a two state solution? Israel is willing, but Hamas and the bulk of the Middle East don't want a two state solution. Israel's only options are a prolonged slow war with Hamas or a quick decisive one.

528 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:21:03am

OT -

Administration vows to break cycle of job loss

Obama will make job loss permanent.

529 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:21:20am

re: #479 Kenneth

There's no link. I paid for a download from the source publication. Terms of use don't allow full reposting, but I can print sufficient copies to share with my students. You're in my college class: Understanding the Threat: Obama & The Cloward-Piven Strategy.

How much are willing to bet that Obama's unreleased Columbia transcripts would show classes with Cloward and Pivens?

530 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:21:49am

re: #510 Ward Cleaver
Prayers are on the way up - BUT - this is weirod - Steve Stills was originally gonna be one of the Monkees, but didn't get the gig and recommended Peter for the job. Last January (of '08 I mean) Stills had surgery for Prostate Cancer!

531 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:21:57am

re: #520 Kenneth

Peter Tork was the one decent musician in the Monkeys. my best wishes for him.


[Video]

I agree; I've always been a Mike Nesmith fan as well.

532 LGoPs  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:22:10am

re: #467 Dustyvet

Nguyen, a 2004 West Point graduate, Oh that's rich, this bastard is a frigging "Ring Knocker"


/S

This is strictly an anecdotal observation but I know that the standards at West Point changed some years back. Previously, the commission upon graduation had been Regular Army, which it no longer is if I'm not mistaken.
And I also seem to recall that upon graduation West Pointers were all commissioned in either Combat Arms or Combat Support branches. No longer. And I think that perhaps a different sort is now being attracted to a government paid Ivy league equivalent education, but without the committment that previous generations made to become America's professional Officer Corps.
My source of commssion was ROTC so I am speaking somewhat out of school here but I served with many West Pointers in the Cold War years and held them generally in high regard. At least in as high regard as I had for myself, nyuk, nyuk. :)
This spate of dishonorable conduct troubles me.

533 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:22:15am

re: #527 NukeAtomrod

In light of this, Israel would be fully justified in pursuing a policy of regime change by military force in the Palestinian territories before the Palestinians can cash their aid checks. Hamas is at war with Israel. Giving aid to Palestine aids Hamas. Aid to Hamas is a threat to Israel's national security.

Why does the western world demand that Israel sacrifice their people for the pipe-dream of a two state solution? Israel is willing, but Hamas and the bulk of the Middle East don't want a two state solution. Israel's only options are a prolonged slow war with Hamas or a quick decisive one.

I'm not sure most of the world really wants a two state solution, unless both states are Arab Muslim.
But they can't just come out and say what they're thinking of.

534 LGoPs  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:22:45am

re: #512 Kenneth

Thanks

535 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:22:54am
536 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:23:19am

re: #526 MandyManners

Ding me down, please.

*WHACK*

Much more satisfying!

;-P

537 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:24:00am

re: #535 buzzsawmonkey

I have to say that "Cloward & Pivens" sounds like a terribly chi-chi gourmet grocery store, or a purveyor of fancy leather goods.

I thought they were a British light operetta writing team.

538 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:24:36am

re: #529 jcm

Whether he took a class with Cloward or not, it's a given he read Cloward in whatever courses he took on community organizing. Along with Alinsky they are the founders of American leftist community organizing.

539 pegcity  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:24:39am

oh please, they can pledge a trillion dollars, everyone knows arabs are full of it and in the end they will get maybe one tenth of that

540 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:24:48am

re: #535 buzzsawmonkey

I have to say that "Cloward & Pivens" sounds like a terribly chi-chi gourmet grocery store, or a purveyor of fancy leather goods.

In the Mall next to Abercrombie & Bitch, purveyors of the finest in revolutionary chic.

541 kansas  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:25:15am

re: #528 Ward Cleaver

OT -

Administration vows to break cycle of job loss

Obama will make job loss permanent.

25 jobs in Columbus..............whoopee fucking do. Look at the Dow Plunge! How much longer do we have to put up with this moron?

542 Wishing  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:25:23am

re: #538 Kenneth

Community Organized Vote Theft

543 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:25:24am

re: #535 buzzsawmonkey

I have to say that "Cloward & Pivens" sounds like a terribly chi-chi gourmet grocery store, or a purveyor of fancy leather goods.

Or a rare genetic disorder.

544 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:25:35am

re: #528 Ward Cleaver

OT -

Administration vows to break cycle of job loss

Obama will make job loss permanent.

OTOH, the guy that should lose his job is Obama.

545 bloodnok  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:25:39am

re: #531 Ward Cleaver

I agree; I've always been a Mike Nesmith fan as well.

I highly recommend the "Headquarters Sessions" box set that came out a few years ago. Tons of outtakes from the tracking dates and more than a few unreleased songs. You can really tell Tork was the musical director for that whole album (the only album they played all their own instruments on -and my favorite of theirs).

546 albusteve  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:25:59am

re: #519 Walter L. Newton

[Link: img.dannychoo.com...]

ahahaha.....pieces parts

547 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:26:23am

re: #541 kansas

25 jobs in Columbus..............whoopee fucking do. Look at the Dow Plunge! How much longer do we have to put up with this moron?

A little under 4 years. Of course by then we will all be living in tents.

548 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:26:29am

re: #538 Kenneth

Whether he took a class with Cloward or not, it's a given he read Cloward in whatever courses he took on community organizing. Along with Alinsky they are the founders of American leftist community organizing.

No doubt about that. Cloward was Columbia at the same time as BHO. They ran in the same circles. I'm thinking there's more to it than BHO merely reading the material.

549 gmsc  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:26:49am

re: #541 kansas

25 jobs in Columbus..............whoopee fucking do. Look at the Dow Plunge! How much longer do we have to put up with this moron?

Just over 1416 days, according to obamaclock.

550 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:27:03am

re: #500 lawhawk

Exactly. Granite countertops and stainless steel appliances in every home is just silly, IMHO. I just did a minor kitchen remodel a couple of weeks ago. Replaced the sink with a deeper one, replaced the faucet with a high arc faucet, and replaced the countertops from a seventies tacky to a modern laminate (with a very nice rounded edge). Did a heck of a lot to improve the kitchen at low cost. Been replacing the appliances as I get to them. New dishwasher and range, and will install a microwave range hood shortly (all white, mid-range appliances).

That'll do more for livability and saleability than any major remodel.

551 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:27:08am
552 kansas  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:27:19am

re: #535 buzzsawmonkey

I have to say that "Cloward & Pivens" sounds like a terribly chi-chi gourmet grocery store, or a purveyor of fancy leather goods.

Or two banjo players missing some front teeth getting ready to follow some purdy boys on a float trip.

553 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:27:50am

re: #542 Wishing

Community Organized Vote Theft

Cloward & Pivens were the originators of Motor Voter. Apply for license, register to vote. Proof of citizenship is racist.

554 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:27:53am

DKos: Mormons Are Dangerous

555 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:28:07am

re: #545 bloodnok

I highly recommend the "Headquarters Sessions" box set that came out a few years ago. Tons of outtakes from the tracking dates and more than a few unreleased songs. You can really tell Tork was the musical director for that whole album (the only album they played all their own instruments on -and my favorite of theirs).

I liked this album of Nesmith's. Funky.

556 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:28:30am

re: #540 jcm

In the Mall next to Abercrombie & Bitch, purveyors of the finest in revolutionary chic.

I thought they were more into soft core pr0n on their advertisements than revolutionary chic.

557 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:28:31am

re: #528 Ward Cleaver

OT -

Administration vows to break cycle of job loss

Obama will make job loss permanent.

Does anyone see the disconnect in this statement...

"Solis said in a statement that the administration is moving aggressively to jump start job creation. She noted that the president's stimulus package increased unemployment insurance benefits and under the plan, the department was making more than $3.5 billion available for education, training and re-employment services."

She talks about job creation and slides right into unemployment, which is the real issue of the article and the questions she is dealing with.

Her answer really doesn't have anything to do with job creation.

558 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:28:32am
559 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:28:34am

re: #554 NJDhockeyfan

DKos: Mormons Are Dangerous

Dkos are Morons.

560 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:28:37am

re: #532 LGoPs
How can someone graduate from West Point and NOT be commissioned a Second LT in the Regular Army?!
There is no other Army - and even Reserve forces have to do some time on Active Duty. I think it's still Regular Army Commission.
But I too am troubled by the recent dishonorable conduct of a few graduates of all the Service Acadamies.
And I have to add that although I am naturally not predisposed to like officers (being an enlisted man) when a West Point LT would yell out "Follow Me" he was in fact already out and moving - none of this "You guys go over there and let me know what's going on."

561 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:28:41am

re: #511 Dustyvet

Awww - now that has to be a joke about two Welshmen!

562 Zimriel  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:28:48am

re: #469 jcm

Even Whoopie Goldberg is getting a clue....

The Whoopi who in 1996 called Republicans a bunch of racists when Powell stepped out of the race? the Whoopi who last year hinted that "strict constitutionalist" readings of the Constitution amounted to slavery nostalgia?

Whoopi is a race-baiter. Her help is exactly what we don't need.

563 gonecamping  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:29:21am

Not to be confused with "Cowards and Piss ants", the elite ivy league secret society for liberals.


re: #535 buzzsawmonkey

I have to say that "Cloward & Pivens" sounds like a terribly chi-chi gourmet grocery store, or a purveyor of fancy leather goods.

564 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:29:31am

re: #542 Wishing

Community Organized Vote Theft

Also known as COVeT.

565 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:29:37am

re: #543 ConservatismNow!

"Your honor, I can't be put in jail. I have a rare disease called Cloward-Pivens. I am physically incapable of telling right from wrong."

566 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:29:43am

re: #554 NJDhockeyfan

DKos: Mormons Are Dangerous

He'd better watch out, lest a flock of seagulls crap on him.

567 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:31:11am

re: #529 jcm

How much are willing to bet that Obama's unreleased Columbia transcripts would show classes with Cloward and Pivens?

Betting on a certainty, aren't we?

568 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:31:22am

re: #562 Zimriel

The Whoopi who in 1996 called Republicans a bunch of racists when Powell stepped out of the race? the Whoopi who last year hinted that "strict constitutionalist" readings of the Constitution amounted to slavery nostalgia?

Whoopi is a race-baiter. Her help is exactly what we don't need.

One can always hope for a conversion....

569 bloodnok  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:31:36am

re: #555 Ward Cleaver

I liked this album of Nesmith's. Funky.

I know that one. A buddy of mine had it.

570 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:31:46am

re: #559 jcm

Dkos are Morons.

LGF: Morons are dangerous.

571 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:31:53am

re: #553 jcm

Cloward & Pivens were the originators of Motor Voter. Apply for license, register to vote. Proof of citizenship is racist.

Yup, and ACORN directly studied & applied the same methods.

Obama's Book Club


A statistically improbable phrase "redistributive change".
Where did Obama get this from?

Marcus D. Pohlmann, "Black Politics in Conservative America", 1990.
"Both the election process and political party process are inherently biased against fundamental redistributive change." page (132)

572 LGoPs  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:32:19am

re: #535 buzzsawmonkey

I have to say that "Cloward & Pivens" sounds like a terribly chi-chi gourmet grocery store, or a purveyor of fancy leather goods.

More like a name for a malignant, fatal disease that infects a healthy host and destroys it from inside.
Bastards.

573 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:32:48am

re: #513 Ward Cleaver

I'm in the process of painting the kitchen and replacing the knobs/pulls. It made a huge difference tearing off the old wallpaper, which was dated.

574 Empire1  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:33:26am

re: #519 Walter L. Newton

Walter --

Answered your question about taxes in yesterday's Stock Market Yo-Yo thread; see my #620. Sorry for the delay, since I had to look up some information to make sure I had the numbers right.

575 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:33:58am

re: #547 NJDhockeyfan

A little under 4 years. Of course by then we will all be living in tents.

Have no fear, the Obama inspired media will provide the tent cities for you, regardless of when they were formed, who's coming, or why they're congregating there.

576 yma o hyd  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:34:53am

re: #548 jcm

No doubt about that. Cloward was Columbia at the same time as BHO. They ran in the same circles. I'm thinking there's more to it than BHO merely reading the material.

Yep - recalling my college days, students from the years above were always passing round 'hot' papers one just had to read - and then there were all the informal seminars and discussion groups which did not form part of the official course, but which one better attended to collect brownie points with teachers and other students.

That was in a science subject - it would be even more so in whatever PB0 said he studied.

577 Zimriel  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:36:35am

re: #554 NJDhockeyfan

DKos: Mormons Are Dangerous

The stock market's finding lows an oil drill would envy, we're bankrupting our budget, we're pissing off our allies, the Russians and Iranians are treating us with open disdain, terrorists are taking over Pakistan, and our biggest worry is... a few million people in Utah.

The title would read better as, "Protocols of the Elders of Zion National Park"

578 pegcity  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:37:14am

re: #577 Zimriel

annoying maybe, dangerous, no

579 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:37:57am

re: #554 NJDhockeyfan

I read the article. Note to the writer: You must have been really stoned. Mormon missionaries don't go by their first names. It's "Elder Lastname." I can see having Keith as a last name, but Kevin?

Also, your friends have let you know that drugs induce paranoia, right?

580 LGoPs  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:39:04am

re: #560 realwest

How can someone graduate from West Point and NOT be commissioned a Second LT in the Regular Army?!
There is no other Army - and even Reserve forces have to do some time on Active Duty. I think it's still Regular Army Commission.
But I too am troubled by the recent dishonorable conduct of a few graduates of all the Service Acadamies.
And I have to add that although I am naturally not predisposed to like officers (being an enlisted man) when a West Point LT would yell out "Follow Me" he was in fact already out and moving - none of this "You guys go over there and let me know what's going on."

They have an active duty requirement for I think 5 years but I am almost certain that the commission is now issued as a reserve one.

And btw, I also feel rather strongly about the "Follow Me" ethic, i.e., lead by example. I got pretty pissed yesterday about the lack of it shown by our present leadership.......

581 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:42:10am
582 VioletTiger  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:42:15am

re: #529 jcm

How much are willing to bet that Obama's unreleased Columbia transcripts would show classes with Cloward and Pivens?


Thesis? We saw Michele's, what happened to Obama's? Many schools make these public.

583 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:42:38am

re: #580 LGoPs

They have an active duty requirement for I think 5 years but I am almost certain that the commission is now issued as a reserve one.

And btw, I also feel rather strongly about the "Follow Me" ethic, i.e., lead by example. I got pretty pissed yesterday about the lack of it shown by our present leadership.......

What's the scariest thing you'll ever see? A 2nd Lt with a map.

584 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:42:51am

Professor Lee Staples, who co-authored with Richard Cloward, Roots to Power: A Manual for Grassroots Organizing had this to say about the election of Barack Obama:

"His election represents a new direction in American politics," said Macro Professor Lee Staples. “While it's unrealistic and naive to view him as a savior, he can make a real difference. The economic crisis presents opportunities to move towards progressive tax reform and tougher regulation of financial institutions. The breakdown in the health system opens the doors for fundamental change leading to national health insurance. Global warming, high oil prices, industrial pollution and shrinking resources provide impetus for rejuvenation of the environmental movement and smart growth. The increasing gap between rich and poor nations around the world requires the United States to change its role dramatically on the international stage."

585 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:43:26am
586 cartoonboy  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:43:34am

Are the Palestinians a peace-seeking people seeking to raise their families in harmonious co-existence with their neighbors or simply a Jew killing army? “Poor suffering refuge” is a successful distraction and fund raising gimmick.

587 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:44:06am

re: #569 bloodnok

I know that one. A buddy of mine had it.

I have it on 8-track (haven't listened to it in a million years), but gotta get the CD.

588 LGoPs  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:45:23am

re: #583 ConservatismNow!

What's the scariest thing you'll ever see? A 2nd Lt with a map.

Now they all have GPS (PLGR's in the miltary usage).........
:)

589 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:46:33am

re: #573 lawhawk

I'm in the process of painting the kitchen and replacing the knobs/pulls. It made a huge difference tearing off the old wallpaper, which was dated.

It's really amazing what little things like that will do to modernize a room.

590 DaddyG  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:48:04am

re: #369 Walter L. Newton
Not so strage to me. I was laid off and spent most of my retirement before starting a new career in public service (not the feds). Our whole family has scaled back considerably to fit into my new salary scale and we've become much more self-reliant when it comes to entertainment, food, auto and washing machine repairs (to name a few things). We are also in a modest house given my income which has kept us from being upside down despite some hefty medical bills for one of my children. Having spent the last of my corporate 401K in late 2006 I feel like a financial genius only taking a 10% hit. We're still paying down all of our debt as fast as we can and not expecting anyone to subsidize our unicorn feed.

591 LGoPs  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:51:32am

re: #584 Kenneth

Professor Lee Staples, who co-authored with Richard Cloward, Roots to Power: A Manual for Grassroots Organizing had this to say about the election of Barack Obama:


"His election represents a new direction in American politics," said Macro Professor Lee Staples. “While it's unrealistic and naive to view him as a savior, he can make a real difference. The economic crisis presents opportunities to move towards progressive tax reform and tougher regulation of financial institutions. The breakdown in the health system opens the doors for fundamental change leading to national health insurance. Global warming, high oil prices, industrial pollution and shrinking resources provide impetus for rejuvenation of the environmental movement and smart growth. The increasing gap between rich and poor nations around the world requires the United States to change its role dramatically on the international stage."

I get really, really angry at the drivel that these 'professors' spout. I can understand being of a leftist bent. I cannot understand that being educated people, they do not acknowledge the proveable, demonstrable negative and often deadly effects of their philosophy.

592 DaddyG  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:53:26am

re: #550 Honorary Yooper

Exactly. Granite countertops and stainless steel appliances in every home is just silly, IMHO. I just did a minor kitchen remodel a couple of weeks ago. Replaced the sink with a deeper one, replaced the faucet with a high arc faucet, and replaced the countertops from a seventies tacky to a modern laminate (with a very nice rounded edge). Did a heck of a lot to improve the kitchen at low cost. Been replacing the appliances as I get to them. New dishwasher and range, and will install a microwave range hood shortly (all white, mid-range appliances).

That'll do more for livability and saleability than any major remodel.

Purchased my last two major appliances for 1/3-1/2 price because some picky customer noticed a little dent in the finish before they installed it in her home. The best part is when they come pre-dented I'm not uptight about the kids playing in the kitchen. Heh!

593 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:55:37am

Project Vote


Project Vote (or Voting for America, Inc.[1]) is a nonpartisan, nonprofit, 501(c)(3) organization. It was founded in 1982 by Sandy Newman and its current executive director is Michael Slater, who has worked for Project Vote since 2004.[2][3][4] Project Vote's efforts to engage low income and minority voters in the civic process include the provision of training, management, evaluation and technical services.[5]

One of Project Vote's most successful voter registration drives was directed by Barack Obama in Chicago during 1992.

Project Vote: Extended Profile

The stated purpose of Project Vote is to work within the system, using conventional voter-mobilization drives and litigation to secure the rights of minority and low-income voters under the U.S. Constitution. However, Project Vote’s actions suggest that its true agenda is more radical. Its activities appear to be aimed at overwhelming, paralyzing and discrediting the voting system through fraud, protests, propaganda and vexatious litigation.

In this respect, Project Vote appears to be following the so-called “crisis strategy” or Cloward-Piven Strategy pioneered during the Sixties by Columbia University political scientists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven.

Interesting: the voter fraud incidents we saw in the last election were not isolated incidents in which over-zealous ACORN staff got caught, but a conscious program to intentionally delegitimize the American electoral process.

594 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:56:10am

re: #557 Walter L. Newton

Does anyone see the disconnect in this statement...

"Solis said in a statement that the administration is moving aggressively to jump start job creation. She noted that the president's stimulus package increased unemployment insurance benefits and under the plan, the department was making more than $3.5 billion available for education, training and re-employment services."

She talks about job creation and slides right into unemployment, which is the real issue of the article and the questions she is dealing with.

Her answer really doesn't have anything to do with job creation.

The administration is great at this, talking about reducing the deficit while creating the greatest one in history, etc.

595 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 10:57:09am

re: #591 LGoPs

Because political views are not a product of a person's intelligence, but of his or her character, morals & psychology.

596 jcm  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 11:06:21am

re: #582 VioletTiger

Thesis? We saw Michele's, what happened to Obama's? Many schools make these public.

BHO buried his paper trail. Thesis, transcripts, organizing activities, law firm records, Illinois Legislative records..... nirth certifikat ( // on the last one)

597 rw in san diego  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 11:09:41am

re: #595 Kenneth

Because political views are not a product of a person's intelligence, but of his or her character, morals & psychology.

Isn't that the truth!

598 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 11:12:26am
599 LGoPs  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 11:23:52am

re: #593 Kenneth

Project Vote


Interesting: the voter fraud incidents we saw in the last election were not isolated incidents in which over-zealous ACORN staff got caught, but a conscious program to intentionally delegitimize the American electoral process.

Am I the only that's frothing, screaming mad at this outrage? This is a direct attack at the very foundations of our form of government. Voter fraud should be punished in the harshest manner possible because it steals from all of us. And yet it seems that every6one collectively shrugs and yawns.
What the fuck is the point of voting if this is allowed to go on. Why is this not being screamed from the rooftops? Oh, I forgot, we have a compliant, fellow traveler media........
Fuck the media. Watchdogs my Ass.

600 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 11:26:53am

re: #8 Right mind left

They get to shore up the infrastructure of all those tunnels now!

This says it all. President Abbas and Hamas are like different sides of the same coin. It's a frigging game. Hamas doesn't want peace and so long as Abbas pretends to "make inroads" with Hamas, the $$$ will continue to pour into the valley of death. You can't make progress with an organization that wants Israel destroyed, that rejects the 2 state "solution". All of it is a raving joke - and I'm willing to assume that many, many people are in on it.

601 Kenneth  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 11:29:04am

re: #599 LGoPs

A lot of us are angry. Use your anger constructively to inform everybody you know about this crisis:

Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

602 [deleted]  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 11:33:18am
603 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 11:35:13am

re: #600 eclectic infidel

This says it all. President Abbas and Hamas are like different sides of the same coin. It's a frigging game. Hamas doesn't want peace and so long as Abbas pretends to "make inroads" with Hamas, the $$$ will continue to pour into the valley of death. You can't make progress with an organization that wants Israel destroyed, that rejects the 2 state "solution". All of it is a raving joke - and I'm willing to assume that many, many people are in on it.

That's what it is. Abbas is the "good cop" and Hamas the "bad cop". Actually, Abbas pretends to be good but really wants the destruction of Israel as much as Hamas; he's just better at lying.

604 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 11:36:16am

re: #602 ploome hineni

excllent post

think about it....would this situation be allowed to repeat ad nauseum, if these arabs were not killing JEws?

is this scenario possible and supported by the world, just because the target of the arabs murderous rage are Jews?


Yes.

605 Mike in Boulder  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 11:53:27am

If I were giving that kind of money, I would use an agency that could oversee how it would be spent.

How about the UN or the EU. Wait, never mind

606 madisonsfriend  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 12:10:51pm

If even $1000 of that money goes to real education or industry or business(besides the business of weaponry and terrorism), I'll write something good about the UN(so you know it wil not ahppen).

I see where Hamas is supporting that murderer Bashir- birds of a feather. However, the world will be ok with it since we know that the murders and rapes in Darfur are because of Israel. I guess the dead tractor terrorist is being mourned by Hamas, Answer and Code Pink.

607 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 12:32:39pm

OK 14 Billion to the PA in aid. Lets do some math. By their own figure, the population of the PA is approximately 3.6 Million People. 14 Billion divided by
3.6 Million comes to a bit under $4,000 for every man woman and child. Like the US under President Barack "HOOVERSEIN" Obama, bet the money to be used for the PA "Stimulus" would be better spent by the individual residents and their families.

-S-

608 MJBrutus  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 12:35:42pm

re: #54 nyc redneck

this is one reason why they keep killing.
it is like a reward for their fcked up murderous agenda.

there will be no real progress in the m.e. until the world puts the screws to the palis and makes them act like civilized human beings.
no more trying to understand savages.
make them understand us.

Up ding for that. There is a such a clear, unmistakable pattern in everything this big-eared, jackass does. Punish good behavior and reward the worst kind of behavior. Lie on your mortgage application and used your house as an ATM and can't re-fi out of that stupid ARM? No problem, here's your bailout. Lend money to people who have no income and no credit history? No problem, here's your bailout. Finance, lead and commit terrorist atrocities? BAILOUT!

Here's a pile of crappy DVDs, Mr. PM of our finest ally. Now beat it. Here's your tax hike, Mr. Successful entrepreneur. Now pay me and beat it.

And on and on it goes.

609 J.S.  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 1:56:57pm

re: #600 eclectic infidel

Jonathan Schanzer in the text, "HAMAS vs Fatah" (2008), spells it out very clearly. He argues that there is no real difference between Fatah and HAMAS. Fatah claims to be a secular, nationalist political party, yet all too frequently engages in precisely the same sort of violent activities as their fundamentalist, religious counterparts called HAMAS. Schanzer writes: "Combined with xenophobia, chauvinism, and/or irredentism, nationalism can become as dangerous any any other radical ideology" (p 7). Both HAMAS and Fatah seek the destruction of the State of Israel. Schanzer goes on to state: "Real reform will be possible only with the rise of new parties and new leaders who eschew the violent tactics, strategies, and ideologies of the factions that represent most Palestinians today: Hamas and Fatah. In other words, only by rejecting the platforms of both parties will the Palestinian people begin to break the self-destructive cycle described in the pages that follow" (p11). And, it should be clear to world leaders by now, that providing monies to Fatah is not the way to "reform" their violent culture.

610 Henchman Ghazi-808  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 1:58:09pm

Angry White Douche apologize yet? Just checking....

611 Henchman Ghazi-808  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 2:02:15pm

Now.....?

I'd love for AWD to come back. Nothing like colorful tirades about 'Hajis' and '[bigoted word]s' to lower the IQ.....

612 Henchman Ghazi-808  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 2:03:07pm

Whoops. Sorry Stinky, being sarc..

613 Biff  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 3:22:00pm

I wonder if Bill Gates is re-upping after buying these ungrateful animals all those Gush Katif high tech greenhouses. The boost this investment gave to Palestinian productivity was just miraculous, what with all the scrap metal, hookah hoses, and smuggling tunnel sites Gate's funds provided.

614 Biff  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 3:24:13pm

re: #607 Dr. Shalit
If every Palestinian individual received $4,000, they would be long gone, at least that's what Rabbi Kahane surmised.

615 realwest  Fri, Mar 6, 2009 4:33:56pm

test

616 doggunit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:10:01am

So basically, if I pay taxes then I may be supporting terror.


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