A Scientist Visits a Creationist Museum
I hate it when Brits make fun of us.
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Scientist Colin Blakemore visits a creationist museum in Kentucky.
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RealityBasedSteve Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:15:25pm |
If we find some experiment that on the surface seems to disagree with the word of God, we go with the word of God. That’s the money quote for me.
RBS
Words… I just don’t have them for this.
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cat-tikvah Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:41:22am |
Best alternative explanation! Courtesy of Eddie Izzard.
Youtube Video
language NSFW!
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:39:02am |
A Scientist Visits a Creationist Museum
Comedy ensues.
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erik_t Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:39:53am |
re: #1 RealityBasedSteve
If we find some experiment that on the surface seems to disagree with the word of God, we go with the word of God. That’s the money quote for me.
I am so glad that this comment was be made by this username.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:43:07am |
“When we find some experiment that disagrees with the word of god, we go with the word of god.”
God thinks you’re an idiot.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:45:36am |
When all the available evidence contradicts your opinion, the evidence must be wrong.
Good to know.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:46:26am |
re: #7 Kragar
When all the available evidence contradicts your opinion, the evidence must be wrong.
Good to know.
God made his brain, so he can’t be wrong.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:48:31am |
DERP
#TGDN pic.twitter.com/z38NpYHa— Barbara Wolkins (@BarbaraWolkins1) February 20, 2013
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:48:42am |
Great way to teach people to think there. If we find evidence that disagrees with our religion, we just ignore the evidence and go with the religion. 14th century thinking in the 21st century. Awesome.//
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:49:35am |
re: #9 Vicious Babushka
DERP
Yeah Obama doesn’t have a ranch to get photo-ops at it. That’s some story.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:50:06am |
re: #11 HappyWarrior
Yeah Obama doesn’t have a ranch to get photo-ops at it. That’s some story.
Wingnuts loves them their gender roles.
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iossarian Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:50:18am |
re: #8 wrenchwench
God made his brain, so he can’t be wrong.
Awesome. If I were a creationist I would steal this and make it my tagline.
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erik_t Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:50:21am |
re: #9 Vicious Babushka
DERP
I know what they’re trying to convey, but I want to hear them say it out loud.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:51:52am |
re: #14 erik_t
I know what they’re trying to convey, but I want to hear them say it out loud.
Well in that case, I’d ask which of those three referred to his wife as Mommy.
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iossarian Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:52:38am |
re: #11 HappyWarrior
Yeah Obama doesn’t have a ranch to get photo-ops at it. That’s some story.
Obama helps other people fix up their buildings.
Republican men just dick around on their own property.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:55:35am |
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erik_t Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:55:35am |
It’s a little amusing to me that W’s only commendable action, and the comparison to St. Reagan, is that they’re both busy cutting down trees.
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jaunte Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:56:32am |
They should move the Creation Museum closer to the Grand Canyon.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:57:50am |
re: #18 erik_t
It’s a little amusing to me that W’s only commendable action, and the comparison to St. Reagan, is that they’re both busy cutting down trees.
It’s to show that Ronnie & W are “manly men” whereas Obama is a “girly girl.”
Very common wingnut meme is to selectively find flattering pictures of their heroes and put them next to unflattering pictures of people they don’t like. See also: “Conservative women are HOT!” meme. For some reason Pam Geller never appears in these montages.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:58:32am |
re: #21 Vicious Babushka
It’s to show that Ronnie & W are “manly men” whereas Obama is a “girly girl.”
Very common wingnut meme is to selectively find flattering pictures of their heroes and put them next to unflattering pictures of people they don’t like. See also: “Conservative women are HOT!” meme. For some reason Pam Geller never appears in these montages.
And yet Ann Coulter does somehow.
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jaunte Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:58:43am |
re: #20 A Mom Anon
Down at the bottom of the canyon; then visitors could examine all of that “Flood geology” during the hike in.
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Dr Lizardo Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:59:42am |
OT, but an update on the flooding situation here in the Czech Republic.
The Vltava (Moldau) River running through Prague is currently at a rate of 3000 cubic meters per second. It’s normal rate is 240 cubic meters per second. So they’re getting panicky in Prague; the Vltava has yet to crest, which should happen in the next day or so.
The Labe (Elbe) River has flooded several towns in its path, including - once again - Mělnik, which lies at the confluence of the Vltava and Elbe Rivers.
So far, 7 dead, and some 9,000 forced to leave their homes. The most affected areas are Southern and Central Bohemia, with some areas of Southern Moravia affected as well. My neck of the woods, Moravian Silesia, has escaped any flooding thus far.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:59:45am |
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:59:49am |
re: #9 Vicious Babushka
DERP
As opposed to standing around with a glass of wine in hand while wearing a blue snuggie.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:00:00pm |
re: #23 jaunte
Down at the bottom of the canyon; then visitors could examine all of that “Flood geology” during the hike in.
“This whole canyon was formed in a matter of hour less than 5000 years ago…”
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:00:44pm |
HORRIBLE
Home-schooled teen shoots himself to death at Michigan school he used to attend http://t.co/XGFDWF0sbh #UniteBlue #LibCrib— ???????? ??? (@harpoonmusic) June 3, 2013
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:00:48pm |
re: #21 Vicious Babushka
It’s to show that Ronnie & W are “manly men” whereas Obama is a “girly girl.”
Very common wingnut meme is to selectively find flattering pictures of their heroes and put them next to unflattering pictures of people they don’t like. See also: “Conservative women are HOT!” meme. For some reason Pam Geller never appears in these montages.
So in other words, wingnut memes are in their maturity level akin to that of 12 year olds and I apologize to anyone here with a twelve year child, grandchild, nephew/niece.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:02:24pm |
re: #23 jaunte
Down at the bottom of the canyon; then visitors could examine all of that “Flood geology” during the hike in.
I was thinking close to the edge of the Grand Canyon where it’s so close you can push it over a cliff and into the canyon with one hand. Unoccupied of course.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:04:25pm |
re: #21 Vicious Babushka
It’s to show that Ronnie & W are “manly men” whereas Obama is a “girly girl.”
Very common wingnut meme is to selectively find flattering pictures of their heroes and put them next to unflattering pictures of people they don’t like. See also: “Conservative women are HOT!” meme. For some reason Pam Geller never appears in these montages.
For some reason though Debbie Schlussel always shows up in those montages.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:05:42pm |
At least they get animatronic dinosaurs. All we get locally is this:
A visit to the creation museum
You arrive and drive through heavy black iron gates and walk past a few cheesy dino sculptures in front. These include a miniature T. rex based on the outdated concept with tail dragging behind it. (At least they don’t claim that the predatory dinos ate coconuts. not meat, with their long sharp teeth, as Ken Ham’s museum does). There is a Galapagos tortoise model, a small ankylosaur, and a replica of a dinosaur egg nest, with the false statement that dinosaurs did not take care of their young (long ago debunked by Jack Horner’s Maiasaura nests in Montana). Once inside, there is a lobby with a reception desk and a gift shop which has more products from Ken Ham’s organization than it does from the old ICR gang. The docent that Ross and Carrie wanted to interview was already inside giving a tour, so we headed right in.
The very first exhibit set the pattern of the whole museum: large display object, with several placards with way too many words in tiny type that no one can read, full of creationist lies and misstatements. In this case, it was a huge slab of orthoceratid nautiloids and goniatite ammonoids (both misidentified) from the fossil mines of the Devonian Tindouf Basin of Morocco; these fossils are ubiquitous among the commercial fossil dealers and rock shops these days. The text of the placard claimed they were all lined up by the Great Flood! Ironically, the creationists were bamboozled by the Moroccans here, because real paleontologists know from experience that these big Moroccan fossil slabs (where the fossils are nicely spaced out and lined up and all of the same size) are fakes made of real fossils cast into a cleverly disguised concrete base. They could be an “art object” as they are sold in many places, but they are not a natural assemblage—and the “orientation” of the long nautiloids was done by Moroccan craftsmen, not by the Great Flood. Yet another irony: creationists mock paleontologists for the rare instances where they were fooled by a hoax—but this museum features a hoaxed specimen in its first exhibit, with a creationist interpretation, yet the creationists are not competent enough in paleontology to spot a hoax when they bought one!
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:06:06pm |
re: #31 Gus
For some reason though Debbie Schlussel always shows up in those montages.
She does not really look like that.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:07:05pm |
These montages always look like they were done by a kid in preparation for the homecoming game where you do everything to emphasize how awesome your team is and how much the other team sucks.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:09:09pm |
re: #23 jaunte
Down at the bottom of the canyon; then visitors could examine all of that “Flood geology” during the hike in.
The creationist I know got into a big argument with one of his fellow hikers at the bottom of the Grand Canyon, after walking down through all that geology.
If your world view is not fact-based, facts will have no effect.
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Dr Lizardo Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:09:12pm |
Here’s some aerial footage of the affected areas.
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jaunte Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:09:24pm |
The Creationist Museum’s Eve manikin evolved Crystal Gayle hair.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:16:47pm |
re: #36 Dr Lizardo
Here’s some aerial footage of the affected areas.
I’ve got a friend in Prague right now…last time she was there was in 2002 during that flood. Talk about shitty vacation timing.
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Dr Lizardo Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:18:20pm |
re: #38 darthstar
I’ve got a friend in Prague right now…last time she was there was in 2002 during that flood. Talk about shitty vacation timing.
That is indeed shitty vacation timing, not to mention an uncanny coincidence.
Speaking of ‘shitty’, the wastewater treatment facilities that service Prague have just completely failed.
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Bulworth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:18:34pm |
some experiment that on the surface seems to disagree with the word of God
That’s always the catch. Nothing ever disagrees with the word of God. It’s only a matter of “some experiment” that “on the surface”, “seems” to disagree, etc.
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:19:58pm |
re: #9 Vicious Babushka
DERP
I know which one I’d rather be married to-if I wasn’t already married of course…
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:20:01pm |
“@TLibOT: We need leaders like Reagan who was not afraid to bend an elbow with his enemies. #tgdn” …and sell them arms for hostages.— SNUMBO (@SNUMBO) June 3, 2013
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:20:48pm |
A Scientist Visits a Creationist Republican Museum
Fixed!
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Dr Lizardo Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:21:49pm |
re: #38 darthstar
I’ve got a friend in Prague right now…last time she was there was in 2002 during that flood. Talk about shitty vacation timing.
Oh, and if by chance she’s staying in Prague 8 - Karlin - it’s highly likely she’s about to get evacuated. The Prague authorities are now thinking of evacuating the entire district.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:22:13pm |
This graphic says why we must say #GoodbyeGOP Via Addicting information #p2 #uniteblue pic.twitter.com/RSi8URz1KS— Pat Fuller (@bannerite) June 3, 2013
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:22:21pm |
re: #46 Dr Lizardo
Oh, and if by chance she’s staying in Prague 8 - Karlin - it’s highly likely she’s about to get evacuated. The Prague authorities are now thinking of evacuating the entire district.
She’s staying in a home on higher ground.
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sagehen Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:23:42pm |
re: #1 RealityBasedSteve
If we find some experiment that on the surface seems to disagree with the word of God, we go with the word of God. That’s the money quote for me.
RBS
Words… I just don’t have them for this.
That’s not just bad science, it’s also bad theology.
Maimonodes told us a thousand years ago, if actual evidence in the real world contradicts what you thought the scripture says, if it contradicts what you thought was the word of God… then the scripture doesn’t actually say what you thought it said. You’re reading it wrong.
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erik_t Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:25:28pm |
re: #49 sagehen
also
“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
I’m sure St. Thomas would be willing to generalize to Christian, had there been more than one kind at the time.
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Dr Lizardo Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:25:42pm |
re: #48 darthstar
She’s staying in a home on higher ground.
Good to hear. Karlin has become somewhat popular with tourists in recent years.
Bad timing for the Czech Republic; June is a big month for tourism, and tourism counts over here - it’s a pretty good sized revenue generator, and a lot of my former students work in tourism-related industries.
No tourists; they lose their jobs.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:26:53pm |
re: #50 erik_t
also
I’m sure St. Thomas would be willing to generalize to Christian, had there been more than one kind at the time.
Aquinas was a well known liberal with communistic tendencies.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:27:02pm |
re: #49 sagehen
That’s not just bad science, it’s also bad theology.
Maimonodes told us a thousand years ago, if actual evidence in the real world contradicts what you thought the scripture says, if it contradicts what you thought was the word of God… then the scripture doesn’t actually say what you thought it said. You’re reading it wrong.
Always amazing to read how guys like Maimonodes and Aquinas lived centuries ago and yet had a more forward way of looking at the world than many people here in 2013.But I suppose that is why we still discuss them today because they were ahead of their time.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:28:47pm |
re: #51 Dr Lizardo
Good to hear. Karlin has become somewhat popular with tourists in recent years.
Bad timing for the Czech Republic; June is a big month for tourism, and tourism counts over here - it’s a pretty good sized revenue generator, and a lot of my former students work in tourism-related industries.
No tourists; they lose their jobs.
I was over there in a June too or really really late May. I’d go over in a heartbeat and do the tourist thing if I had the money. Loved the CR and its people.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:29:19pm |
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Dr Lizardo Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:30:44pm |
re: #54 HappyWarrior
Always amazing to read how guys like Maimonodes and Aquinas lived centuries ago and yet had a more forward way of looking at the world than many people here in 2013.But I suppose that is why we still discuss them today because they were ahead of their time/
Even Averroes - Ibn Rushd. He’s considered to be quite influential on Western thinkers. He’s called the ‘founding father of secular thought in Western Europe’.
Lived in the 12th Century. And still way more forward thinking than what passes for “conservative intellectuals” nowadays.
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GunstarGreen Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:30:55pm |
re: #29 HappyWarrior
So in other words, wingnut memes are in their maturity level akin to that of 12 year olds and I apologize to anyone here with a twelve year child, grandchild, nephew/niece.
Thorough examination of most Right-Wing ‘humor’ shows itself to be on a gradeschool level of maturity/development.
See Also: The Republican obsession with coming up with ‘clever’ nicknames for their political opponents (Nobama, Obummer, etc.), which stopped being funny or interesting for properly-functioning humans around or before the 5th grade.
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Ian G. Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:31:22pm |
re: #54 HappyWarrior
It’s like how people say “the music/movies today are terrible compared to what was around back in the day”. No, there was plenty of dreck back then too, it’s just that “The Godfather” or “Exile on Main Street” stood the test of time.
We remember Maimonodes and Thomas Aquinas because they were brilliant in any era. For every one of them, I’m sure there were thousands of people who were the medieval equivalent of the creation museum dude.
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:31:39pm |
As so often seems to happen, the creationists have an astrophysicist discussing paleontology. Now, he ought to understand the scientific method and all that, but his field isn’t particularly close to what he purports to be working on.
All scientists are totally interchangeable!
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:32:11pm |
re: #59 Ian G.
It’s like how people say “the music/movies today are terrible compared to what was around back in the day”. No, there was plenty of dreck back then too, it’s just that “The Godfather” or “Exile on Main Street” stood the test of time.
We remember Maimonodes and Thomas Aquinas because they were brilliant in any era. For every one of them, I’m sure there were thousands of people who were the medieval equivalent of the creation museum dude.
Very true but let’s face it the 1970’s were a great time for movies and music.
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Dr Lizardo Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:33:04pm |
re: #55 HappyWarrior
I was over there in a June too or really really late May. I’d go over in a heartbeat and do the tourist thing if I had the money. Loved the CR and its people.
It’s great here. I’ve been living here for 12 years now; I love it.
One month, just to see if I could swing it in Ostrava, I set myself a budget of $500. After rent, utilities, groceries, ciggies, occasional entertainment, and minor sundry expenses, I still had $12 left at the end of the month.
Not bad.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:35:52pm |
As if my state doesn’t have enough to be embarrassed about with the Creation Museum, we also have Arkencounter in the works, supported by tax dollars ($43 million in tax breaks).
grumble, grumble…
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:36:08pm |
In the focus group research conducted in January 2013, the young ‘winnable’ Obama voters were asked to say what words came to mind when they heard ‘Republican Party.’ The responses were brutal: closed-minded, racist, rigid, old-fashioned.”
These are the young voters the GOP thinks they can win over?
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GunstarGreen Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:36:44pm |
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:36:53pm |
Naturalized citizens can't be trusted, says Washington Times op-ed written by a naturalized citizen: http://t.co/pLvhgMlV4P— Media Matters (@mmfa) June 3, 2013
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:37:30pm |
I see. Now “conservative” outreach is extending to a mistrust of naturalized citizens. Nothing that new really.
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GeneJockey Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:38:11pm |
re: #67 Gus
Wait, isn’t that like telling someone everything you say is a lie?
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:38:35pm |
re: #66 GunstarGreen
They just need some more rebranding, that’s all.
“The odds of me voting for you are a million to one.”
“So, you’re saying I’ve got a chance.”
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:39:35pm |
re: #69 GeneJockey
Wait, isn’t that like telling someone everything you say is a lie?
Exactly like it.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:39:47pm |
re: #65 erik_t
And the pitch jusssssst a little outside…
The GOP: Alienating voters for a whole new generation. If you think they’re alienating the millennials (my generation), they’re going to alienate the next one even more but I’m sure they don’t think that’s a problem because so many of them have convinced themselves that the current generation just spoiled and knows nothing.
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iossarian Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:41:49pm |
re: #69 GeneJockey
Wait, isn’t that like telling someone everything you say is a lie?
“If I asked you which door led to freedom, what would you say?”
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:41:56pm |
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:42:00pm |
re: #67 Gus
Oh for fuck sake. Just declare yourselves the second coming of the Know Nothing Party and be done with it now.
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GeneJockey Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:42:02pm |
re: #64 Kragar
“The responses were brutal: closed-minded, racist, rigid, old-fashioned.”
Let’s just use different adjectives!
Close minded = consistent,
Racist = Selective,
Rigid = reliable,
Old Fashioned = Classic!
//
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:42:40pm |
re: #72 HappyWarrior
A relative of mine in his late 30s was telling me the other day how people feel “entitled” these days-not like the old days… I asked him when, precisely, a bunch of people didn’t feel they were special, but sadly he couldn’t provide an example. I don’t suppose I actually made him change his mind though.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:42:50pm |
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:43:26pm |
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:44:09pm |
re: #75 HappyWarrior
Oh for fuck sake. Just declare yourselves the second coming of the Know Nothing Party and be done with it now.
Whites only.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:44:13pm |
re: #76 GeneJockey
re: #64 Kragar
Let’s just use different adjectives!
Close minded = consistent,
Racist = Selective,
Rigid = reliable,
Old Fashioned = Classic!
//
Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
Seriously, that’s exactly how they look at it. You tell them that they’re a bunch of close-minded morons and they take it as a compliment because it means they’re “true to their beliefs” and “men of principle.”
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GeneJockey Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:44:52pm |
re: #78 Targetpractice
Like an overbearing parent, all they can think when they look at young voters is “They’ll come around.” “Give’em a few years, when they got a job, kids, and a mortgage, and then they’ll see things our way.”
Right: “A Conservative is a Liberal who’s been mugged”.
Of course, “A Liberal is a Conservative who’s been unemployed”.
Except Craig T. Nelson, of course. He’s just an idiot.
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Stephen T. Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:45:40pm |
re: #72 HappyWarrior
The GOP: Alienating voters for a whole new generation. If you think they’re alienating the millennials (my generation), they’re going to alienate the next one even more but I’m sure they don’t think that’s a problem because so many of them have convinced themselves that the current generation just spoiled and knows nothing.
Many of them have convinced themselves that there won’t be a generation after, they believe we are living in the End Times and the Rapture will be here before it matters.
That, or they know they’ll be dead by then so it won’t matter either.
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sagehen Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:46:15pm |
re: #61 HappyWarrior
Very true but let’s face it the 1970’s were a great time for movies and music.
1939 was *the* year for movies.
1973 was *the* year for albums.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:47:45pm |
re: #77 calochortus
A relative of mine in his late 30s was telling me the other day how people feel “entitled” these days-not like the old days… I asked him when, precisely, a bunch of people didn’t feel they were special, but sadly he couldn’t provide an example. I don’t suppose I actually made him change his mind though.
Most annoying is seeing politicians like Paul Ryan who benefited personally through things like Pell Grants, student loans, etc try to cut them. It’s like “Sorry we got ours but you have to fend for yourself.” One Republican Congressman even tried to sell higher interest rates on loans as a way of teaching kids that personal responsibility is cool. Got to love that message. And they wonder why we hate their fucked up joke of a party by and large.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:48:49pm |
re: #82 GeneJockey
Right: “A Conservative is a Liberal who’s been mugged”.
Of course, “A Liberal is a Conservative who’s been unemployed”.
Except Craig T. Nelson, of course. He’s just an idiot.
Yeah, poor guy. If only someone had helped him out when he was on food stamps and welfare.
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sagehen Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:48:50pm |
re: #82 GeneJockey
Right: “A Conservative is a Liberal who’s been mugged”.
Of course, “A Liberal is a Conservative who’s been unemployed”.
Except Craig T. Nelson, of course. He’s just an idiot.
And a libertarian is a conservative who smokes pot.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:49:00pm |
re: #82 GeneJockey
Right: “A Conservative is a Liberal who’s been mugged”.
Of course, “A Liberal is a Conservative who’s been unemployed”.
Except Craig T. Nelson, of course. He’s just an idiot.
Crow T. Robot > Craig T. Nelson.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:49:05pm |
GOP Report Warns of Party’s Apocalypse With Young Voters
Obviously, the evidence must be wrong because they listen to God.
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Ian G. Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:49:31pm |
re: #78 Targetpractice
Like an overbearing parent, all they can think when they look at young voters is “They’ll come around.” “Give’em a few years, when they got a job, kids, and a mortgage, and then they’ll see things our way.”
I’m not sure why, the moment I have kids and a mortgage, I’m supposed to suddenly hate gays, believe global warming is a hoax, or think cutting spending will magically increase GDP, but then again, I’m not part of the GOP’s “braintrust”.
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aagcobb Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:50:01pm |
re: #67 Gus
De Silva should clearly self-deport, since he has told us we simply can’t trust him.
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GeneJockey Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:50:11pm |
re: #88 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Crow T. Robot > Craig T. Nelson.
“Oh, wait! Here it is: Breach hull, all die. Even underlined it.”
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:50:18pm |
re: #89 Kragar
GOP Report Warns of Party’s Apocalypse With Young Voters
Obviously, the evidence must be wrong because they listen to God.
Clearly that GOP report was financed by Soros.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:51:06pm |
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:51:22pm |
re: #85 HappyWarrior
That’s the problem with entitlement-one always deserves the things one gets, but others are often less deserving.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:51:24pm |
re: #82 GeneJockey
Right: “A Conservative is a Liberal who’s been mugged”.
Of course, “A Liberal is a Conservative who’s been unemployed”.
Except Craig T. Nelson, of course. He’s just an idiot.
No one helped me out when I was on welfare! Didn’t he pretty much say that? I wanted someone to smack the dude because it was just so stupid. And then there was the one Republican congresswoman who argued against increasing the minimum wage using the rate she got as a teenager which adjusted for inflation is more than what it is now. I think conservatives at their core are people who hate the government but yet want the government to be the enforcer of their morality. It’s a twisted marriage between Biblical literalism and Ayn Rand Objectivism.
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Bulworth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:51:31pm |
re: #67 Gus
You know who else can’t be trusted? College students and anyone under 30.
Also, too: womenz.
//
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:52:23pm |
re: #97 Bulworth
You know who else can’t be trusted? College students and anyone under 30.
Also, too: womenz.
//
Ah the GOP version of the Yippies, don’t trust anyone under 30.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:52:24pm |
re: #97 Bulworth
You know who else can’t be trusted? College students and anyone under 30.
Also, too: womenz.
//
Melanin: the pigment of deceit
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:52:35pm |
re: #94 Kragar
Crow would make a great Senator.
“If my learned friend will refer to my butt, he will encounter something that will interest him.”
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:52:49pm |
Sidebar.
To those who call Bradley Manning a hero; explain this. How do you justify THIS?! http://t.co/h3GGvTtYVK— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) June 3, 2013
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GeneJockey Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:53:47pm |
re: #77 calochortus
A relative of mine in his late 30s was telling me the other day how people feel “entitled” these days-not like the old days… I asked him when, precisely, a bunch of people didn’t feel they were special, but sadly he couldn’t provide an example. I don’t suppose I actually made him change his mind though.
Conseervatives all pine for a golden age that didn’t actually exist - The America I Grew Up In.
Which for most of them was a time of high taxes, strong labor movement, increasing regulation etc. Not to mention rampant sexism and racism.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:54:06pm |
re: #100 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Crow would make a great Senator.
“If my learned friend will refer to my butt, he will encounter something that will interest him.”
Crow has some suggestions for Japan.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:56:24pm |
So yeah conservatism has gone from government works best on a local scale to now being government always bad but please let me hang the 10 commandments on the court house. It’s that kind of shit that made Goldwater embarrassed with the movement he helped to create.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:57:15pm |
re: #104 Kragar
New Whitehouse switchboard message:
Hi. This is the human race. We’re not in right now. Please speak clearly after the sound of the bomb.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:58:30pm |
re: #108 Kragar
One of the most interesting things to do with MST3K fans is ask them to describe how Tom and Crow are different.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:58:34pm |
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Lidane Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:59:38pm |
re: #1 RealityBasedSteve
If we find some experiment that on the surface seems to disagree with the word of God, we go with the word of God.
Because really, who needs reason and free will?
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 3, 2013 12:59:50pm |
re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth
Yeah, Kentucky extended a tax credit program just to support the Creationists’ attempt at a theme park. But the backers of the park haven’t been able to raise enough funds to get it going. The tax credit program might sunset without them taking advantage of that, though I expect them to lobby to get it extended so they can get this done on taxpayer dime.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:00:01pm |
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:00:24pm |
re: #111 Lidane
Because really, who needs reason and free will?
Don’t make me bring Rush into this.
/
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:00:30pm |
re: #109 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
One of the most interesting things to do with MST3K fans is ask them to describe how Tom and Crow are different.
Tom has an underwear collection?
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:01:19pm |
re: #113 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Crow reads from “Love’s Sweet Throbbing Gondola”.
Would be best filibuster ever.
Crow as the Llama
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:01:57pm |
Local police were walking around the neighborhood today. I asked them what was up. Kids setting off Drain Bombs?
Never heard of such a thing. After they explained, I told the cops I thought it sound like a lot of fun. I probably shouldn’t have.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:02:32pm |
re: #116 Kragar
Oh god, the Llama.
MST3K is what I point to when British people claim superiority in comedy. MST3K has got nothing like it.
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Mattand Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:03:10pm |
re: #109 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
One of the most interesting things to do with MST3K fans is ask them to describe how Tom and Crow are different.
Yeah, I’ll bite.
Servo is more self-confident and brash, which often gets him into trouble. He also has a lovely singing voice to boot (pun intended).
Crow is a little more laid back but gets rattled easier than Tom.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:03:50pm |
So, this Mystery Science Theatre thingy is something I should know about?
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Bulworth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:04:21pm |
re: #67 Gus
“While some critics may hurl any accusation at Obama without any rhyme or reason, my assertion that he is a Third World thinker is based on my unapologetic patriotism for America and my own immigrant experience.”
Yes, that is some very strong facts there. //
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:04:47pm |
re: #119 Mattand
But Tom has absolutely epic meltdowns, too, which turn his confidence into an inverse powerdive into nihilism.
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Bulworth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:05:07pm |
re: #111 Lidane
That must be some liberal, secular, Sharia law thing. /
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:05:29pm |
re: #120 FemNaziBitch
So, this Mystery Science Theatre thingy is something I should know about?
Come…join us…//
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:05:31pm |
re: #109 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
One of the most interesting things to do with MST3K fans is ask them to describe how Tom and Crow are different.
Tom was the composed wry one.
Crow was the impatient cynical one.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:06:09pm |
re: #124 Targetpractice
Come…join us…//
OMG! I will never watch all those. Are there a few I should definitely know about?
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:07:17pm |
re: #126 FemNaziBitch
OMG! I will never watch all those. Are there a few I should definitely know about?
I’d recommend Manos…but I’m not that sadistic.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:07:44pm |
re: #125 Kragar
Tom was the composed wry one.
Crow was the impatient cynical one.
Tom’s composure sometimes suffered.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:07:57pm |
re: #124 Targetpractice
Come…join us…//
I just have every episode burned to my hard drive for convenience.
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Mattand Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:08:07pm |
re: #120 FemNaziBitch
So, this Mystery Science Theatre thingy is something I should know about?
Yes. And studies have shown you’re a terrible person if you don’t.
Science, you know.
It live on in RiffTrax and Cinematic Titanic, although CT is hanging it up this year.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:08:18pm |
re: #126 FemNaziBitch
OMG! I will never watch all those. Are there a few I should definitely know about?
Overdrawn at the Memory Bank, because at least you have Raul Julia.
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Lidane Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:08:54pm |
re: #114 Kragar
Don’t make me bring Rush into this.
/
No need. I started singing the song in my head as soon as I wrote that. Heh.
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Bulworth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:09:17pm |
It is not your naturalization certificate that makes you an American — the certificate only makes you a U.S. citizen. Rather, what makes you an American is your unconditional belief this is your country.
So documentation alone won’t do it then. Rather a new super loyalty oath requiring an unapologetic affirmation of American Exceptionalism is needed.
In addition, a test must be passed, 100%, providing the correct answers to questions selected, and answers judged by, a non-bi-partisan group, like the tea party patriots.
//
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Mattand Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:09:24pm |
re: #128 Targetpractice
I’d recommend Manos…but I’m not that sadistic.
Worse than Manos? Skydivers, I say. As TV’s Frank described it, the movie is like Manos, only without the lucid plot.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:09:55pm |
My faith in young people is proven once again:
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:11:04pm |
re: #128 Targetpractice
I’d recommend Manos…but I’m not that sadistic.
Space Mutiny.
Riding with Death
One of my favorites: Agent for H.A.R.M
Girl: “Are you coming or do I swim alone?”
Crow: “Yes and yes.”
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:11:17pm |
re: #137 Gus
Twitter go down?
Twitter’s down? Oh dear God, work might actually get done! HEAD FOR THE HILLS!!!
//
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:12:04pm |
re: #64 Kragar
You say “closed-minded, rigid, racist and old fashioned” like it’s a bad thing.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:12:35pm |
re: #135 Mattand
Worse than Manos? Skydivers, I say. As TV’s Frank described it, the movie is like Manos, only without the lucid plot.
Perhaps “Starfighters”
Anyone up for some… refueling?
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:12:38pm |
re: #139 Targetpractice
Twitter’s down? Oh dear God, work might actually get done! HEAD FOR THE HILLS!!!
//
Why you say that? I was about to mother fuck Michael Hastings! ;) //
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:13:03pm |
re: #138 Kragar
Space Mutiny.
Riding with DeathOne of my favorites: Agent for H.A.R.M
Girl: “Are you coming or do I swim alone?”
Crow: “Yes and yes.”
OK, I’ll check-it out.
Strange it’s a been around since 1988 and I’ve never heard of it?
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:13:33pm |
re: #138 Kragar
Space Mutiny.
Riding with DeathOne of my favorites: Agent for H.A.R.M
Girl: “Are you coming or do I swim alone?”
Crow: “Yes and yes.”
Blast Hardcheese!
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Bulworth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:14:02pm |
re: #142 Gus
the twitters isn’t reloading for me on my stupid Obamasmart phone.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:14:05pm |
re: #136 FemNaziBitch
That was Awesome.
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Romantic Heretic Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:14:10pm |
re: #54 HappyWarrior
Always amazing to read how guys like Maimonodes and Aquinas lived centuries ago and yet had a more forward way of looking at the world than many people here in 2013.But I suppose that is why we still discuss them today because they were ahead of their time.
That’s because for some people thinking is hard, and admitting that they’re wrong is even harder.
So ‘Word of God’ because you can’t argue with God.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:14:14pm |
MST3K - Why Study Industrial Arts?!
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:14:30pm |
Tourist spot #437 of the top 100 places to take your mother in San Francisco.
Image: 977351_10151652127873024_1379406768_o.jpg
OMFGSTRIPPERS!!!
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Ian G. Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:14:36pm |
re: #128 Targetpractice
I’d recommend Manos…but I’m not that sadistic.
Do not start with Manos, it’s way too painful.
Warrior of the Lost World, Hobgoblins, or The Final Sacrifice would be great places to start.
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Mattand Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:15:28pm |
re: #150 Ian G.
Do not start with Manos, it’s way too painful.
Warrior of the Lost World, Hobgoblins, or The Final Sacrifice would be great places to start.
Hobgoblins? Good Lord, man, what kind of monster are you?
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Lidane Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:15:31pm |
re: #135 Mattand
Worse than Manos? Skydivers, I say. As TV’s Frank described it, the movie is like Manos, only without the lucid plot.
Monster A-Go Go. It’s like Manos, but without the interesting characters, nice costumes, and Shining type moment at the end.
You’re welcome.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:16:13pm |
re: #151 Mattand
Hobgoblins? Good Lord, man, what kind of monster are you?
Go straight to the most creepy with Touch of Satan.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:16:27pm |
If you have Netflix, there’s also MST3K: The Movie on there. Might be a bit digestible, as This Island Earth is pretty tame by their standards.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:17:16pm |
re: #154 Targetpractice
All of MST3k is on youtube and google video.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:17:24pm |
re: #151 Mattand
Hobgoblins? Good Lord, man, what kind of monster are you?
Its Coily the Spring Sprite!
“NO SPRINGS!” *whistle*
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:18:04pm |
re: #132 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Overdrawn at the Memory Bank, because at least you have Raul Julia.
Raul Julia —now that man has some mojo!
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:18:09pm |
“‘This Island Earth’ can be yours, if the price is right!”
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Ian G. Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:18:41pm |
re: #151 Mattand
Hobgoblins? Good Lord, man, what kind of monster are you?
C’mon, remember the hand-to-hand combat “training” scene with the gardening tools? That’s a classic!
And don’t forget the rockin’ soundtrack from Club Scum!
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:19:24pm |
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Mattand Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:20:03pm |
re: #143 FemNaziBitch
OK, I’ll check-it out.
Strange it’s a been around since 1988 and I’ve never heard of it?
The show really is the living embodiment of cult TV. It never really broke through to a mainstream audience.
What is amazing, though, is how broad the audience’s age range is. I was at the theater broadcast of Birdemic, and the guy next to me, at best, was maybe 1 year old when MST3K debuted.
Good God, I’m old…
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Mattand Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:20:35pm |
re: #156 Kragar
Its Coily the Spring Sprite!
“NO SPRINGS!” *whistle*
In the coming apocalypse, you’ll be the first to die!
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Mattand Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:21:14pm |
re: #159 Ian G.
C’mon, remember the hand-to-hand combat “training” scene with the gardening tools? That’s a classic!
And don’t forget the rockin’ soundtrack from Club Scum!
“Paint my muscle car PRUNE color, please!”
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:21:41pm |
re: #161 Mattand
A friend of mine in his thirties is dating a 21 year old girl, and his defense is that she gets more MST3K jokes than he does, so she’s obviously actually older than him.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:21:48pm |
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:22:27pm |
re: #161 Mattand
The show really is the living embodiment of cult TV. It never really broke through to a mainstream audience.
What is amazing, though, is how broad the audience’s age range is. I was at the theater broadcast of Birdemic, and the guy next to me, at best, was maybe 1 year old when MST3K debuted.
Good God, I’m old…
I only caught it at the tail end of the Scifi run, and then in reruns for years afterwards. And now I feel old.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:23:00pm |
OK, home improvement geeks.
Saw this lady on pinterest who plasticized paper with silicone and then sewed with it.
So, for my bookbinding project, I thought that the plasticized paper would work well for my endsheets and the spine part where the edges of the bound papers kinda fan out.
In the tutorial pictures (not video) we only were shown the tip of the silicone and it looked like a regular caulk tube tip. So I go to the store and check out the silicone caulk products.
I decide on one that is in a regular tube (because caulk guns are a PITA and I don’t want to buy that much). Indoor, outdoor, clear, dries to touch in 3 hours -totally in 24. Anyway, it worked well, but not really. It is too “tacky” or rubbery to the touch. won’t work well for my purposes.
Can you think of any other product that might fit the description of “silicone” that would end up smooth and not tacky?
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:24:19pm |
MST3K - Are You Ready for Marriage?
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:28:24pm |
re: #167 FemNaziBitch
How about making a glaze of white glue (like Elmer’s) mixed with water? I use that on ceramics as a glossy finish and it dries very well. You could do multiple applications (letting it dry in between coats) to get the heft you like.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:29:24pm |
re: #168 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Some kind of epoxy?
No, I don’t think a two-part system would work.
I just don’t want to buy every silicone product out there to figure out which will works best. It has to be smooth and pliable.
I know it’s a caulk type product because of the tip that was shown in the pictures.
I might try what I bought again but put a very, very, minute thin layer on.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:29:46pm |
re: #167 FemNaziBitch
You could also try RTV silicone.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:30:07pm |
re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth
How about making a glaze of white glue (like Elmer’s) mixed with water? I use that on ceramics as a glossy finish and it dries very well. You could do multiple applications (letting it dry in between coats) to get the heft you like.
oh, and the glue/water mixture dries clear.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:30:23pm |
re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth
How about making a glaze of white glue (like Elmer’s) mixed with water? I use that on ceramics as a glossy finish and it dries very well. You could do multiple applications (letting it dry in between coats) to get the heft you like.
It’s not waterproof. I’d still have to seal it.
I have a gallon of Elmer’s. It’s great stuff, but it’s not for permanent applications.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:31:59pm |
re: #174 FemNaziBitch
how about gesso? You can get that from an art supply store. It’s waterproof and dries clear.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:32:15pm |
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:32:43pm |
re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth
how about gesso? You can get that from an art supply store. It’s waterproof and dries clear.
true. I have clear wall primer as well —it’s basically the same thing. I think I’ll try that next before I buy anything else. I want something that will saturate the paper —and primer will do that.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:33:36pm |
re: #176 FemNaziBitch
I almost bought that one. Instead I tried this. only a smaller tube.
Only one customer review:
GE Premium Waterproof Silicone is the worst caulk I have ever used. I have been using various types of caulking for 30 years and have never had difficulty smoothing out the bead with my finger and cleaning up the residue with a paper towel or rag. This does not work with this product. It starts to smooth out but leaves a residue everywhere you don’t want it and is impossible to remove with soap and water or any solvent I have. Supposedly it will “flake off” once dry. Great! I’ve been removing as much as I can so I can start over with another product and have concluded that my tile job is now a disaster. I think in their attempt to make a product that dries quickly, GE has made it impossible to work with. Shame on you GE!
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:33:52pm |
re: #177 FemNaziBitch
true. I have clear wall primer as well —it’s basically the same thing.
worth a try!
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:34:24pm |
See, this is what I love about LGF, we can be discussing MST3K and then just as suddenly turn to arts and crafts. Just be mindful to wear your seatbelt so’s you don’t get whiplash.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:34:44pm |
re: #178 Vicious Babushka
Only one customer review:
Sounds like that person doesn’t know how to apply caulk.
I think it would work fine around a tub or something, Just not for what I am trying to do with it.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:35:16pm |
re: #180 Targetpractice
See, this is what I love about LGF, we can be discussing MST3K and then just as suddenly turn to arts and crafts. Just be mindful to wear your seatbelt so’s you don’t get whiplash.
Hey, art IS SCIENCE!
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:36:05pm |
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:36:22pm |
re: #180 Targetpractice
See, this is what I love about LGF, we can be discussing MST3K and then just as suddenly turn to arts and crafts. Just be mindful to wear your seatbelt so’s you don’t get whiplash.
So I’m thinking about getting into decoupage…are there any good online classes I can take? I’m really good at cutting and pasting. Decoupage is a French word for Fox News Reporting, right?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:37:03pm |
re: #181 FemNaziBitch
Sounds like that person doesn’t know how to apply caulk.
I think it would work find around a tub or something, Just not for what I am trying to do with it.
Skip the goo entirely, and use self-adhesive mylar sheeting. Lots of colors including clear and metallics.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:38:02pm |
re: #184 darthstar
So I’m thinking about getting into decoupage…are there any good online classes I can take? I’m really good at cutting and pasting. Decoupage is a French word for Fox News Reporting, right?
real decoupage or Mod Podge decoupage?
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:38:22pm |
re: #167 FemNaziBitch
I Googled silicone coated paper and it does look like she used ordinary silicone caulk/sealer for her project. Have you tried something like Fray Block(available at fabric stores)? If I recall correctly it is a plastic of some sort in alcohol, meaning it is very liquid and penetrates fabric and paper well. It is intended, as the name suggests, for use on unfinished fabric edges to prevent raveling, but you can also use it to make fabric hold a shape (like a fabric leaf or petal with a bit of curve in it.) I haven’t tried using it for paper, but it is flexible and colorless and might be worth a try. There are other brands including Fray Check, which is stiffer when dry and discolors a bit more. It may just be that it contains more plastic or something.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:39:09pm |
re: #185 Decatur Deb
Skip the goo entirely, and use self-adhesive mylar sheeting. Lots of colors including clear and metallics.
do they sell retail? Anywhere I can get small quantities or an assortment pack at big box or other local type stores?
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:40:20pm |
re: #188 calochortus
I Googled silicone coated paper and it does look like she used ordinary silicone caulk/sealer for her project. Have you tried something like Fray Block(available at fabric stores)? If I recall correctly it is a plastic of some sort in alcohol, meaning it is very liquid and penetrates fabric and paper well. It is intended, as the name suggests, for use on unfinished fabric edges to prevent raveling, but you can also use it to make fabric hold a shape (like a fabric leaf or petal with a bit of curve in it.) I haven’t tried using it for paper, but it is flexible and colorless and might be worth a try. There are other brands including Fray Check, which is stiffer when dry and discolors a bit more. It may just be that it contains more plastic or something.
I have fray check, but it’s a really small bottle and if I remember about $4. That could get more expensive than I want. Good Idea tho!
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:42:57pm |
I think I’ll try the silicone again —very, very think coat.
AND, I’ll try the drywall primer I have that is clear.
I’ll report back tomorrow.
thanks for the ideas!
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:43:11pm |
re: #190 FemNaziBitch
Fray Block comes in a bigger tube and if you have a coupon (which JoAnn’s Fabric hands out like candy) you can get it 30 or 40% off. It goes a long way, but if you’re going to do a lot of sheets of paper, it could end up costing too much.
I wonder if you could find a solvent to dilute the caulk a bit. Preferably something non-toxic…
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:43:38pm |
re: #8 wrenchwench
God made his brain, so he can’t be wrong.
God made my brain, so I can’t be wrong. Being an atheist, I believe no god exists, and since I can’t be wrong, then no god exists. Therefore god did not make my brain, so I can be wrong. If I can be wrong and I believe god does not exist, then god may exist. But if he does indeed exist, …
There is so much wrong with that, I’m speechless.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:44:23pm |
re: #189 FemNaziBitch
do they sell retail? Anywhere I can get small quantities or an assortment pack at big box or other local type stores?
If you’re near NYC, Canal Street used to have a bunch of hightech materials outlets that were haunted by artists and craftsmen. Any really large city might have such. Otherwise I’d be looking at graphic arts supply houses, perhaps even office supply big box stores.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:46:23pm |
re: #193 Walking Spanish Down the Hall
God made my brain, so I can’t be wrong. Being an atheist, I believe no god exists, and since I can’t be wrong, then no god exists. Therefore god did not make my brain, so I can be wrong. If I can be wrong and I believe god does not exist, then god may exist. But if he does indeed exist, …
There is so much wrong with that, I’m speechless.
Norman coordinate!!
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:46:37pm |
re: #22 Kragar
And yet Ann Coulter does somehow.
On first glance she looks somewhat attractive, but as more nonsense comes out of her mouth the less attractive she becomes, until she’s revealed as an ugly troll.
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:47:03pm |
re: #192 calochortus
I wonder if you could find a solvent to dilute the caulk a bit. Preferably something non-toxic…
Hmm, a quick Google search says you can thin silicone caulk with odorless mineral spirits. You might want to try that. Possibly in a well ventilated area.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:47:04pm |
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:47:35pm |
re: #194 Decatur Deb
If you’re near NYC, Canal Street used to have a bunch of hightech materials outlets that were haunted by artists and craftsmen. Any really large city might have such. Otherwise I’d be looking at graphic arts supply houses, perhaps even office supply big box stores.
thx, I’ll see what I can find.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:48:15pm |
re: #196 Walking Spanish Down the Hall
On first glance she looks somewhat attractive, but as more nonsense comes out of her mouth the less attractive she becomes, until she’s revealed as an ugly troll.
Ann Coulter looks skanky to me. Honestly, I when I first saw her on Fox, I wondered if she was a transgender.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:48:31pm |
re: #197 calochortus
Hmm, a quick Google search says you can thin silicone caulk with odorless mineral spirits. You might want to try that. Possibly in a well ventilated area.
ah! you are awesome!
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:49:20pm |
re: #193 Walking Spanish Down the Hall
God made my brain, so I can’t be wrong. Being an atheist, I believe no god exists, and since I can’t be wrong, then no god exists. Therefore god did not make my brain, so I can be wrong. If I can be wrong and I believe god does not exist, then god may exist. But if he does indeed exist, …
There is so much wrong with that, I’m speechless.
God made atheists because He’s tricksy that way. Sort of like why He made fossils. Keeps the believers on their toes.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:50:10pm |
re: #189 FemNaziBitch
There’s always the good old standby: Contact paper. They make it in clear for inexpensive laminating.
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:50:40pm |
re: #201 FemNaziBitch
What does it say about me that I now want to go see if I can use mineral spirits to thin caulk? I really don’t have a use for it. Now anyway, but what if I suddenly need it tomorrow? ;)
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:51:23pm |
re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth
There’s always the good old standby: Contact paper. They make it in clear for inexpensive laminating.
Yeah, but it’s kinda thick and not totally clear and will wear down after a while and become unstuck.
I thought of that.
I used packing tape on a 2” square project and it was wonderful. But this project is larger and I don’t want any seams.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:53:02pm |
TWITTER WENT DOWN BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT DOESN’T WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE BRADLEY MANNING HEARING!!
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A Mom Anon Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:53:28pm |
re: #189 FemNaziBitch
Have you looked at Micheal’s Crafts or JoAnn Fabrics? They may have something like what you’re looking for. You could also maybe try a water based clear coat mixed with white glue(which would keep it flexible, maybe).
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:54:56pm |
re: #204 calochortus
What does it say about me that I now want to go see if I can use mineral spirits to thin caulk? I really don’t have a use for it. Now anyway, but what if I suddenly need it tomorrow? ;)
I might have some in the garage. If I do. I’ll try it as well as the 2 ideas I posted above and report back.
I’m not going to have time to buy any and try it Plus, do mineral spirits come in smaller cans? What would I do with a whole qt (?) size can of it. That would cover A LOT of paper.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:57:02pm |
I’ve been thinking about The Mixer all day. I have decided to go with the high end.
It’s down to the KitchenAid Commercial or the Verona/MagicMill/Electrolux.
I have to make up my mind soon as the Electrolux is almost sold out.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:57:03pm |
re: #207 A Mom Anon
Have you looked at Micheal’s Crafts or JoAnn Fabrics? They may have something like what you’re looking for. You could also maybe try a water based clear coat mixed with white glue(which would keep it flexible, maybe).
Yeah, been all over the craft stores. Ruled out white glue mixes.
Honestly, the craft stores are the last place I usually find something unless it is a specific product made for a specific purpose. Michael’s didn’t have any lamination stuff in the Memory Book section —I asked.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:57:16pm |
re: #178 Vicious Babushka
Only one customer review:
Obviously someone with no experience with silicone. If a bead is done right, there is no need to use your finger. Push caulking, don’t pull it.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:59:13pm |
re: #191 FemNaziBitch
I think I’ll try the silicone again —very, very think coat.
AND, I’ll try the drywall primer I have that is clear.
I’ll report back tomorrow.
thanks for the ideas!
If you use silicone get the paintable type. Normally paint doesn’t adhere to silicone.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 1:59:34pm |
re: #204 calochortus
What does it say about me that I now want to go see if I can use mineral spirits to thin caulk? I really don’t have a use for it. Now anyway, but what if I suddenly need it tomorrow? ;)
You never know when a MacGyver situation will arise…
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erik_t Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:00:37pm |
re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth
You never know when a MacGyver situation will arise…
Hard to make a pinecone-grenade without sufficiently thin caulk or sufficiently unbent binder clips.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:00:45pm |
Not a good day to work for Zynga…you can still have words with friends, but 1 in 5 of them will say “Fuck you!”
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:01:32pm |
re: #212 Walking Spanish Down the Hall
If you use silicone get the paintable type. Normally paint doesn’t adhere to silicone.
why paintable?
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:01:50pm |
re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth
You never know when a MacGyver situation will arise…
THIS is the fun of it!
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:02:11pm |
re: #208 FemNaziBitch
You could probably find a smaller size at an art supply store or maybe a hardware store, but the price difference wouldn’t be much. On the other hand you wouldn’t have to store a whole quart.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:02:38pm |
re: #205 FemNaziBitch
Yeah, but it’s kinda thick and not totally clear and will wear down after a while and become unstuck.
I thought of that.
I used packing tape on a 2” square project and it was wonderful. But this project is larger and I don’t want any seams.
Look what I found:
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:03:38pm |
re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth
You never know when a MacGyver situation will arise…
That is so true, although my ‘clever fixes’ are rarely quite as successful.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:03:40pm |
re: #218 calochortus
You could probably find a smaller size at an art supply store or maybe a hardware store, but the price difference wouldn’t be much. On the other hand you wouldn’t have to store a whole quart.
We have so much SHIT in the garage. We had two tubes (bit) of clear silicone caulk, both hard as nails. Aren’t mineral spirits flammable? Don’t want a lot of extra flammable stuff around.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:04:32pm |
Drudge Puts Christie On Notice: 'Whose Side Are You On?' (PHOTO) http://t.co/Ph4qAVSlAE via @igorbobic— TPM Livewire (@TPMLiveWire) June 3, 2013
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:04:35pm |
re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth
Look what I found:
hmmm, and Ace has it. I haven’t wandered around Ace in a while.
We also have a Sears Hardware —good wandering there too!
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:04:43pm |
re: #221 FemNaziBitch
Surely you have a neighbor or friend who is a hoarder and will take the excess off your hands?
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:05:14pm |
re: #222 Gus
Because there are only 2 sides —it’s always Zero-Sum with this shit. I’m sooo tired of it.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:05:46pm |
re: #225 calochortus
Surely you have a neighbor or friend who is a hoarder and will take the excess off your hands?
yeah probaby.
Thanks for googling for me. That’s really cool of you!/
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:06:16pm |
I had an interesting few days. I had a server go south because of a corrupted certificate. I had to change about 10 files and create 8 new certificates because the web config manager crapped out halfway through changing the domain. Because the system was non-standard I had to look all over hell’s half acre to find the config files and the correct certs to change.
I wasted a day and a half trying to build a substitute server and move over the emails.
It was very frustrating.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:06:47pm |
oh wait, Sleuth did some googling.
Thanks Sleuth!
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Bulworth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:07:27pm |
re: #222 Gus
Drudge Puts Christie On Notice: ‘Whose Side Are You On?’ (PHOTO) http://t.co/Ph4qAVSlAE via @igorbobic
— TPM Livewire (@TPMLiveWire) June 3, 2013
And by whose “side” we mean, don’t name some RINO; he or she, preferably a he, must be a. real. conservative. //
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calochortus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:07:51pm |
re: #227 FemNaziBitch
You may notice that this is the sort of thing I love to check out. Let me know how it goes.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:08:00pm |
re: #221 FemNaziBitch
We have so much SHIT in the garage. We had two tubes (bit) of clear silicone caulk, both hard as nails. Aren’t mineral spirits flammable? Don’t want a lot of extra flammable stuff around.
They’ve invented these things called outhouses where you can store your shit.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:08:01pm |
re: #222 Gus
Again, what if Christie was a Democrat and Lautenberg was a Republican, and Christie decided to replace him with a Democrat? Essentially, the wingnuts are demanding he do the same thing…
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:08:07pm |
It’s all from when Bush said “You are either with us or against us.”
People haven’t realized that you can be totally against Terrorism, but not totally aligned with the USA.
I guess the nuances are beyond some brains to distinguish.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:08:19pm |
re: #231 calochortus
You may notice that this is the sort of thing I love to check out. Let me know how it goes.
thanks!
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:08:26pm |
re: #228 Walking Spanish Down the Hall
My wife just emailed me because she thinks her flashdrive got infected by a virus on the plate machine. The reason this is especially worrying is that this is a machine doing massive amounts of SCIENCE! and the virus may be fucking up those results. So the assholes who wrote this virus may be slowing down the advancement of science and, specifically, new cancer treatments.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:09:06pm |
Wingnuts think that all Republicans should be complete lowlife and classless losers like themselves.
I’m sure Christie would appreciate my choice of words here too. ;)
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Lidane Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:09:29pm |
re: #222 Gus
If I was Christie, I’d use that shit as incentive to appoint Cory Booker.
You know, for the lulz.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:09:52pm |
re: #230 Bulworth
And by whose “side” we mean, don’t name some RINO; he or she, preferably a he, must be a. real. conservative. //
Chris Christie could do the GOP a huge favor and say, “Who the hell is Drudge and why should I care what some internet aggregator says?” But I hope he doesn’t do that. I hope he cowers before the little freak and calls someone like Christine O’Donnell for the temporary fill.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:10:24pm |
re: #238 Gus
Wingnuts think that all Republicans should be complete lowlife and classless losers like themselves.
I’m sure Christie would appreciate my choice of words here too. ;)
His own vocabulary might be more colorful, but yes, I think he would approve.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:11:57pm |
re: #237 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
My wife just emailed me because she thinks her flashdrive got infected by a virus on the plate machine. The reason this is especially worrying is that this is a machine doing massive amounts of SCIENCE! and the virus may be fucking up those results. So the assholes who wrote this virus may be slowing down the advancement of science and, specifically, new cancer treatments.
Helpful assholes aren’t they?
What OS is the plate machine using? Better question, why is the network server not running blocking software?
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:16:46pm |
Seriously? #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/uCcgvBTS8O— V L (@SpeargunWI) February 25, 2013
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:16:49pm |
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:16:53pm |
re: #120 FemNaziBitch
So, this Mystery Science Theatre thingy is something I should know about?
Oh yeah. Netflix them.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:18:25pm |
BREAKING: General Motors to replace H.J. Heinz in S&P 500— Bloomberg News (@BloombergNews) June 3, 2013
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:18:44pm |
I’m going to go get the wife. Because of construction it now takes twice as long to get anywhere in this city.
It took me almost 20 minutes to drive the wife to work this morning.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:18:50pm |
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:19:29pm |
re: #247 funky chicken
Oh yeah. Netflix them.
I’m too old to NETFLIX. I can’t even turn-on my TV.
I can, however, work my macbook. So, I’ll check them that way.
LOL
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GeneJockey Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:19:34pm |
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:20:25pm |
re: #222 Gus
I’d love to see him appoint Corey Booker or Christie Todd Whitman. Booker would eliminate his strongest opposition in the general election but might cost him the GOP nomination for governor. Either would enrage the folks on the extremes of both parties probably.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:20:32pm |
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:21:09pm |
re: #253 funky chicken
I’d love to see him appoint Corey Booker or Christie Todd Whitman. Booker would eliminate his strongest opposition in the general election but might cost him the GOP nomination for governor. Either would enrage the folks on the extremes of both parties probably.
Yeah. Whitman would piss off the wingers.
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:21:52pm |
re: #251 FemNaziBitch
They have them on DVD. I’m techno-challenged myself. It was something the kids and I could enjoy together, which is kinda rare.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:23:25pm |
I am not a right wing nut job— Jose Canseco (@JoseCanseco) June 3, 2013
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:23:29pm |
re: #255 Gus
Yep, but I think she’d make a damn good senator.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:24:07pm |
re: #243 Walking Spanish Down the Hall
Helpful assholes aren’t they?
What OS is the plate machine using? Better question, why is the network server not running blocking software?
That’s what I just asked my wife, but she hasn’t answered yet. And I dunno, it’s a university, so how good their IT department is is pretty random, in my experience.
It’s an obscure, old virus, too. But it creates an autorun.inf on the flashdrive. Think it’s a rootkit.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:24:19pm |
re: #258 funky chicken
Yep, but I think she’d make a damn good senator.
Yeah. She’s a good moderate Republican. Almost old school at this point.
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:26:02pm |
Shame on Congress
By Christine Todd Whitman
April 18, 2013
I was extremely disappointed to see the gun legislation voted down in the Senate on Wednesday. When 90% of Americans support a piece of legislation that is then voted down by the Congress, something in our democracy is broken. How can we stand by and let a lobbying group thwart the will of a majority of Americans? It can only happen when the majority sits back and assumes commonsense will prevail. Perhaps this will be the wake up call that people need - we cannot continue to allow our government to be controlled by a few. We must start to demand policy over politics and the only way to do that is to show up at the polls.
I agree wholeheartedly with what Gabrielle Giffords bravely wrote in the New York Times on Wednesday. May people heed her call and show our representatives that we will not stand idly by while they worry more about re-election than protecting our children.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:26:26pm |
Russian guards catch cat smuggling cellphones into prison: http://t.co/pKydWb7R8Z— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) June 3, 2013
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:28:22pm |
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:29:42pm |
I think she is the first Republican I’ve seen or heard who said the obvious:
claimed that the majority of Republican women support the right to choose. They may oppose late-term abortions, she said, but few actually want abortion banned in all cases — and that Mitt Romney’s opposition to abortion rights is the major reason he’s had trouble appealing to female voters.
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:31:20pm |
re: #209 Vicious Babushka
I’ve been thinking about The Mixer all day. I have decided to go with the high end.
It’s down to the KitchenAid Commercial or the Verona/MagicMill/Electrolux.
I have to make up my mind soon as the Electrolux is almost sold out.
Don’t know anything about the Electrolux but even our lower-end Kitchenaid has been a serious work horse for over a decade.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:32:03pm |
re: #263 Decatur Deb
For when you return:
ah! THE OFFICE SUPPLY STORE!!!!
Another great place to wander!
Thanks!
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:32:26pm |
re: #265 funky chicken
Don’t know anything about the Electrolux but even our lower-end Kitchenaid has been a serious work horse for over a decade.
Ours quit and hasn’t been repaired yet. It didn’t like making pasta dough.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:32:40pm |
re: #265 funky chicken
Don’t know anything about the Electrolux but even our lower-end Kitchenaid has been a serious work horse for over a decade.
I have a KitchenAid that’s been running strong for 30 years, I just want one with a larger capacity.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:33:51pm |
Whose side are you on?
I guess America was never considered as a side by Drudge
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:34:39pm |
re: #264 FemNaziBitch
But…Ron Paul? I may have to reconsider my opinion of her:
Whitman’s immediate goal is to get a moderate candidate chosen through Americans Elect on the 2012 ballot, so that he or she can participate in debates, and she said that possibilities include John Huntsman, Ron Paul, and activist Michaelene Risley. Whitman added that her parents met at the 1931 Republican National Convention, and her father described the Republican Party he belonged to as like an umbrella, covering lots of different people. She hopes for a return to those days, a move away from what she sees as a hyper-partisan political climate where every candidate’s position on every issue “has to be all or nothing.”
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:36:44pm |
Ted Cruz pushes for flat tax but wants to abolish the IRS
Cruz insisted that taking “the bureaucrats” out of Washington and the process of collecting taxes would curtain abuses of power by the IRS.
Cruz did not mention what agency will take the place of the IRS when collecting these tax revenues, nor did he allow for the fact that creating a single tax rate on every dollar earned would go even further toward increasing income inequality in the U.S. by lowering taxes on the wealthy and raising them on the poor and middle class.
Bolling, for his part, said that he thinks this is “a fantastic idea.”
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:36:55pm |
Just remembering the last project with which I had group LGF support. in 2011. It was a lot of fun. Temple of Vesta. Kid’s school project.
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A Mom Anon Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:40:42pm |
re: #272 FemNaziBitch
pardon if you already said, what kind of books are you making? Are you trying to bind the fabric to some sort of underlying board, or use the fabric on its own?
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Jack Burton Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:40:58pm |
re: #270 funky chicken
But…Ron Paul? I may have to reconsider my opinion of her:
Where the hell is Ron Paul a “moderate candidate”? Rapture? Columbia?
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:41:31pm |
re: #268 Vicious Babushka
I have a KitchenAid that’s been running strong for 30 years, I just want one with a larger capacity.
I’ve had one for 15 years. It’s never let me down.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:43:27pm |
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:44:12pm |
re: #273 A Mom Anon
pardon if you already said, what kind of books are you making? Are you trying to bind the fabric to some sort of underlying board, or use the fabric on its own?
no fabric.
The one I am working on now is a little photo book. I did the coptic binding (stitching) and am trying to figure out how I want the cover/boards, spine and endsheets to look.
I’ve covered the boards with a cardstock-turned-to-leather-look technique and am working on the spine/paste/tape thingy part.
I want to make a lot of little books—each from the various types of bookbinding.
I’ve done a couple, but already gave them away, so I don’t have pictures to show.
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Lidane Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:44:53pm |
re: #271 Kragar
Ugh. Flat taxes. That shit always sounds good in theory (A tax form the same size as a post card!) but it would truly screw the poor and middle class in favor of the rich.
No surprise Ted Cruz is in favor of it.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:45:05pm |
Heh.
Went back in time & took a screenshot of Twitter the night O.J. ran from the cops in '94.. pic.twitter.com/t4EX2QrYqv— James McDermott (@J_Derm) June 3, 2013
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Joanne Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:45:48pm |
re: #89 Kragar
GOP Report Warns of Party’s Apocalypse With Young Voters
Obviously, the evidence must be wrong because they listen to God.
But has the Unskewed Polls guy chimed in yet?
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:46:11pm |
re: #270 funky chicken
But…Ron Paul? I may have to reconsider my opinion of her:
They spelled Jon Huntsman’s name wrong. Can’t find anything about Ron Paul but found this: Christine Todd Whitman to Jon Huntsman: Run third party
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:50:17pm |
Ismir…today. Looks like a few people showed up.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:51:53pm |
Officers ready with plastic cuffs to arrest NC Moral Monday protesters. pic.twitter.com/lv7sXcnrce— Melissa Harris-Perry (@MHarrisPerry) June 3, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:52:40pm |
Troll showed up at the bottom of the previous thread.
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EPR-radar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:53:13pm |
re: #278 Lidane
Ugh. Flat taxes. That shit always sounds good in theory (A tax form the same size as a post card!) but it would truly screw the poor and middle class in favor of the rich.
No surprise Ted Cruz is in favor of it.
It’s not even a significant simplification in theory. 99 point repeater nine percent of the complexity of the tax code is defining what is and is not taxable income.
Progressive marginal tax rates are trivially simple, and necessary in principle.
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A Mom Anon Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:53:22pm |
re: #277 FemNaziBitch
Oh OK, where the hell did I get fabric from? LOL. The kid and I did little books, journals, many, many years ago and we used rice paper that had flowers embedded in it and homemade paper for the covers. We sealed them with a spray on sealer of some kind, but I don’t remember what it was called. The paper was stuck to heavy card stock with spray adhesive. Gack, I tasted that stuff for days afterwards, icky.
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:53:25pm |
That Electrolux mixer is one nice looking appliance, I have to admit. I’d never seen one before.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:53:56pm |
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:54:50pm |
re: #277 FemNaziBitch
no fabric.
The one I am working on now is a little photo book. I did the coptic binding (stitching) and am trying to figure out how I want the cover/boards, spine and endsheets to look.
I’ve covered the boards with a cardstock-turned-to-leather-look technique and am working on the spine/paste/tape thingy part.
I want to make a lot of little books—each from the various types of bookbinding.
I’ve done a couple, but already gave them away, so I don’t have pictures to show.
I just remembered something from back in the olden days when I worked in a book bindery (I was a typesetter for stamping titles and Dewey Decimal System numbers on the spines). The people who worked at the end of the line used something soft and squishy like rubber cement between the back of the sewn pages and the spine of the cover. Then the end pages were glued to the inside of the covers.
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Lidane Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:55:59pm |
Religious Right activist commends Russia for “preventing” gay people from “corrupting children” http://t.co/KowLUAuceU— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) June 3, 2013
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:58:53pm |
One of my coworkers has a magazine for gamer artists…pics of busty women with mega-weapons on their shoulders…that kind of crap. Nearly every picture in the magazine has a ‘close x’ Box on it… I said, “Really? They pay all that attention to detail down to hair follicles and drips of sweat, but they leave a fucking CLOSE box on the print version?
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 2:59:27pm |
re: #286 A Mom Anon
Oh OK, where the hell did I get fabric from? LOL. The kid and I did little books, journals, many, many years ago and we used rice paper that had flowers embedded in it and homemade paper for the covers. We sealed them with a spray on sealer of some kind, but I don’t remember what it was called. The paper was stuck to heavy card stock with spray adhesive. Gack, I tasted that stuff for days afterwards, icky.
thanks!
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:00:57pm |
re: #259 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
That’s what I just asked my wife, but she hasn’t answered yet. And I dunno, it’s a university, so how good their IT department is is pretty random, in my experience.
It’s an obscure, old virus, too. But it creates an autorun.inf on the flashdrive. Think it’s a rootkit.
Oh great. If it’s on one machine, it’s on many. Give my condolences to your wife.
What ever happened to the hackers code?
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:01:16pm |
re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth
I just remembered something from back in the olden days when I worked in a book bindery (I was a typesetter for stamping titles and Dewey Decimal System numbers on the spines). The people who worked at the end of the line used something soft and squishy like rubber cement between the back of the sewn pages and the spine of the cover. Then the end pages were glued to the inside of the covers.
they have various pastes in bookbinding. There are some recipes on the web—most involve flour and such. I’m happy with the acid-free memory book stuff —basically Elmers
It’s the cover and certain papers I don’t want to tear or get water soaked. I thought the silicone idea seemed like a good one.
Have some experimenting to do tonite. I’ll report back.
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:01:38pm |
re: #284 Vicious Babushka
Troll showed up at the bottom of the previous thread.
Hey! I had the last two comments over there! (oh, not any more, pshew)
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:02:11pm |
kittehs are five weeks old today.
Piglet is diving headfirst in a can of gourmet chicken pate for kittens.
Growler is an adventurous little diva who is a climbing fool and has discovered the joys of self-grooming…
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:02:31pm |
re: #267 FemNaziBitch
Ours quit and hasn’t been repaired yet. It didn’t like making pasta dough.
Do you seriously blame it?
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:02:38pm |
re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth
I just remembered something from back in the olden days when I worked in a book bindery (I was a typesetter for stamping titles and Dewey Decimal System numbers on the spines). The people who worked at the end of the line used something soft and squishy like rubber cement between the back of the sewn pages and the spine of the cover. Then the end pages were glued to the inside of the covers.
Actually, it might have been rubber cement. I’ve seen some old books with what looks like the remnants of rubber cement on the parts that have come apart. We used to use it in art class in college and at high school yearbook seminars. I remember it not lasting forever and leaving a rather distinctive stain.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:03:19pm |
re: #297 Walking Spanish Down the Hall
Do you seriously blame it?
yes, we did a lot of pasta dough. It was really the only thing we made with the kitchen aid for a long time.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:04:04pm |
re: #293 Walking Spanish Down the Hall
Oh great. If it’s on one machine, it’s on many. Give my condolences to your wife.
What ever happened to the hackers code?
Luckily, most scientists use macs so this is actually limited to the flashdrives and the production machines, and they’re working through it now. Should be okay.
One of the best anti-virus setups is to have personal macs with PC specialist computers. Or vice versa. And no Java.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:05:40pm |
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:05:48pm |
re: #286 A Mom Anon
Oh OK, where the hell did I get fabric from? LOL. The kid and I did little books, journals, many, many years ago and we used rice paper that had flowers embedded in it and homemade paper for the covers. We sealed them with a spray on sealer of some kind, but I don’t remember what it was called. The paper was stuck to heavy card stock with spray adhesive. Gack, I tasted that stuff for days afterwards, icky.
You can make rice paste too!
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:06:16pm |
re: #298 FemNaziBitch
Actually, it might have been rubber cement. I’ve seen some old books with what looks like the remnants of rubber cement on the parts that have come apart. We used to use it in art class in college and at high school yearbook seminars. I remember it not lasting forever and leaving a rather distinctive stain.
It probably was. I seem to remember that it needed to be very flexible on the back pages. I’m thinking the back of the pages were not directly attached to the inside of the spine of the cover. There might have been some sort of thin loosely woven fabric (like gauze) attached to the rubber cement stuff on the back of the pages. This was back in the very early 1970s, so my memory is not not all that great…
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:08:00pm |
re: #267 FemNaziBitch
Ours quit and hasn’t been repaired yet. It didn’t like making pasta dough.
I quit making homemade pasta when I had kids :). But I have the 12 cup Kitchenaid food processor and it will suppposedly make pasta dough.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:08:22pm |
What’s the name of that obnoxious metaphysics guy. Author, speaker, general babbler of all things made up. Indian I believe.
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:09:07pm |
re: #306 Gus
What’s the name of that obnoxious metaphysics guy. Author, speaker, general babbler of all things made up. Indian I believe.
Deepak Chopra or some such.
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Lidane Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:09:07pm |
re: #306 Gus
What’s the name of that obnoxious metaphysics guy. Author, speaker, general babbler of all things made up. Indian I believe.
That would be Deepak Chopra.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:09:57pm |
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:11:02pm |
Why do I have a sudden urge for some Deepak Chopra? Maybe a little Tikka Masala too.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:11:18pm |
re: #306 Gus
What’s the name of that obnoxious metaphysics guy. Author, speaker, general babbler of all things made up. Indian I believe.
Deeprock Smugpra.
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jaunte Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:11:27pm |
Deepak Chopra Quote Generator
wisdomofchopra.com
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:12:11pm |
I can’t believe I spelled that right. He’s kinda fallen off the radar, or at least my radar, for a while now.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:12:26pm |
re: #311 darthstar
Why do I have a sudden urge for some Deepak Chopra? Maybe a little Tikka Masala too.
Cause yer frikken loonie?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:14:42pm |
re: #315 funky chicken
I can’t believe I spelled that right. He’s kinda fallen off the radar, or at least my radar, for a while now.
The Twitterverse has a bad Chopkra infection.
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Kid A Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:14:44pm |
Meanwhile, Bryan’s gay fetish continues…
Randy Sharp: Scouts marching in uniform in gay pride parades: youtu.be/uY1U832dCVo via @youtube
— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) June 3, 2013
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jaunte Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:14:49pm |
How conscious are you of your own existence RT @spacetimevacuumquestion how conscious are you of my conscious existence?#CosmicConsciousness
— Deepak Chopra (@DeepakChopra) June 3, 2013
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darthstar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:15:00pm |
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Joanne Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:16:08pm |
re: #257 Gus
Jose Canseco ✔ @JoseCanseco
I am not a right wing nut job
Maybe not, but you’re still a raging asshole. (I remember the time he went off on a bunch of kids wanting his autograph…wanting them to pay him for it. Seriously, fuck this guy, no matter his political leanings.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:16:42pm |
re: #323 Joanne
Maybe not, but you’re still a raging asshole. (I remember the time he went off on a bunch of kids wanting his autograph…wanting them to pay him for it. Seriously, fuck this guy, no matter his political leanings.
I am not a sissy pants liberal— Jose Canseco (@JoseCanseco) June 3, 2013
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jaunte Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:16:50pm |
re: #324 Gus
“When you can balance a tack hammer on your head, you will head off your foes with a balanced attack.”
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:18:25pm |
re: #326 jaunte
“When you can balance a tack hammer on your head, you will head off your foes with a balanced attack.”
Weird movie, weird role.
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ProTARDISLiberal Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:18:42pm |
Doing more research, I will be pleased as punch if either Rupert Grint or Chiwetel Ejiofor become the 12th Doctor.
The only one I do want to become the 12th Doctor is Russell Tovey.
I wish we could split the difference, and get a redheaded British-African, but that might be a little difficult to get.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:19:03pm |
re: #326 jaunte
“When you can balance a tack hammer on your head, you will head off your foes with a balanced attack.”
Absoola, katawa, toorensular katata boorka chok.
De pet a dum deedly dee da doom!
Voila!
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:21:56pm |
Chopra is like a bottle of homeopathic medicine. 99.99 percent water.
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EPR-radar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:23:58pm |
re: #330 Gus
Chopra is like a bottle of homeopathic medicine. 99.99 percent water.
Or a vocabulary festival with all sorts of interesting words strung together to form meaningless sentences. (i.e., word salad with quantum woo dressing)
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:28:59pm |
re: #332 EPR-radar
Or a vocabulary festival with all sorts of interesting words strung together to form meaningless sentences. (i.e., word salad with quantum woo dressing)
The mind is cosmic don’t you know. That’s why if you have a brain tumor all you need is some good old fashioned metaphysics and a self-help book.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:44:14pm |
Now it’s getting weird:
Walking Dead and Vampire Diaries Actress Accused by Husband of Being Behind Ricin Letters Plot
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danarchy Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:51:57pm |
re: #330 Gus
Chopra is like a bottle of homeopathic medicine. 99.99 percent water.
Hehe, me and my friends homebrew, and we were making a pumpkin ale one weekend and we forgot the pumpkin… So we just called it Homeopathic Pumpkin Ale. It actually ended up being pretty darn good anyway.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:52:39pm |
re: #328 ProTARDISLiberal
Doing more research, I will be pleased as punch if either Rupert Grint or Chiwetel Ejiofor become the 12th Doctor.
The only one I do want to become the 12th Doctor is Russell Tovey.
I wish we could split the difference, and get a redheaded British-African, but that might be a little difficult to get.
For next Doctor, I vote for Ship Cat. It would be FUN!
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