Chuck C. Johnson Sneaks Onto Twitter Again, Using an Account Claiming to Be Associated With the Reagan Foundation

The return of a nasty troll
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Yesterday I got a tip from a friend that cyberstalker Chuck C. Johnson had bragged on his private Facebook page that he now has “access” to a Twitter account with 23,000 followers. A screenshot:

As you may recall, Chuck C. Johnson was recently permanently banned from Twitter, and tried to re-register several accounts, all of which were immediately suspended as well.

Well, he’s back again. Lo and behold — here’s a Twitter account with 23,000 followers that has suddenly started tweeting about the same sorts of things that interest Chuck Johnson, including attacking Deray McKesson and tweeting links to white supremacists and VDARE.

If you look through this person’s timeline you’ll see many of the same obsessions for which Johnson is infamous; for example, here are two tweets to white supremacist “weev” (Andrew Auernheimer):

@RonReaganLives also recently started following Andrew Auernheimer (@rabite) on Twitter. Auernheimer has publicly acknowledged collaborating with Johnson, and currently has this image for his avatar:

Here’s a tweet suggesting that Obama didn’t write his autobiography — another conspiracy theory often floated by our boy Chuck:

And here’s a tweet that actually links to Chuck Johnson’s horrible blog, to a post in which you’ll find several tweets by… @RonReaganLives.

This account claims to be officially affiliated with the Ronald Reagan Foundation in Simi Valley, with a board of trustees that includes Rupert Murdoch, Peggy Noonan, Nancy Reagan, and many other well-known conservative figures.

I wonder how they feel about their name being used by someone who retweets links to outright white nationalist websites, and holds conversations with outright white supremacists — all in violation of Twitter’s Terms of Service?

(Note: I’ve saved screenshots of all these tweets and more, in case they suddenly get deleted.)

UPDATE at 7/13/15 7:01:43 pm by Charles Johnson

And sure enough — whoever’s running this account just deleted the tweet about Deray McKesson posted above.

But here’s the screenshot, because the Internet never forgets:

UPDATE at 7/13/15 7:28:48 pm by Charles Johnson

An anonymous source has now confirmed that Chuck is “definitely” using this account.

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595 comments
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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:36:23pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:36:31pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:36:37pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:36:57pm

I reported this account as “compromised”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:38:49pm

Hello, Anonymous? I’d like to report a virus…..

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ObserverArt  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:40:11pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Ronald Reagan @RonReaganLives

I sure hope that they don’t ban good ole Ronnie Reagan from Twitter.

9:31 PM - 13 Jul 2015

Just posted to this same tweet in the last thread…

Jeezuz…just admit it already Chuck.

You aren’t that clever. In fact it is a word never to be associated with you.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:41:14pm

It’s not affiliated with the Reagan Foundation-they managed to figure out how to hijack count. If you go to the website it isn’t the the same name. Their Twitter account is @ronaldregan40.

This is outright fraud.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:41:52pm

“Who does a former president have to blow around here to get a blue check?”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:43:03pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:43:49pm

That’s it.

This is war.

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alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:43:49pm

This is just so stupid. The time and energy involved is baffling.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:44:17pm

re: #9 The Vicious Babushka

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His bio strongly implies that he is, though.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:44:51pm
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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:45:33pm

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

He’s totally reading LGF.

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Jayleia  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:46:10pm

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

OK, that one is actually funny

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PeterWolf  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:46:25pm

And oddly, for the first time since his hissy fit articles about Twitter and his being booted off, there’s a whole two new articles on Gotnews. Seems UpChuck can’t write unless he haz teh Twitterz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:47:22pm

re: #7 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s not affiliated with the Reagan Foundation-they managed to figure out how to hijack count. If you go to the website it isn’t the the same name. Their Twitter account is @ronaldregan40.

This is outright fraud.

You are correct.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:47:23pm

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

What a Dumbass!

Gave the whole game away right there.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:47:39pm

re: #14 #FergusonFireside

He’s totally reading LGF.

Yup.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:49:13pm

re: #7 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s not affiliated with the Reagan Foundation-they managed to figure out how to hijack count. If you go to the website it isn’t the the same name.

This is outright fraud.

This is what I see when I click your link to @ronaldregan40:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:49:28pm

The Reagan Foundation should be really upset that this particular twitter account is pretending to be the official account.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:50:12pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

This is what I see when I click your link to @ronaldregan40:

[Embedded content]

@ronaldreagan40

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Jayleia  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:50:31pm

This twitter.com

Bah, BWS got there first

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:50:58pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

I mispelled.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:51:44pm

OK. I changed the headline to reflect that this may not be an official account. But it’s obviously someone who wants people to think he is associated with them.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:53:14pm

re: #7 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s not affiliated with the Reagan Foundation-they managed to figure out how to hijack count. If you go to the website it isn’t the the same name. Their Twitter account is @ronaldregan40.

This is outright fraud.

You left the 2nd “a” out of the nic, so the link isn’t working. It should be @ronaldreagan40

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:53:36pm
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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:53:43pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

This is what I see when I click your link to @ronaldregan40:

[Embedded content]

It’s @ronaldreagan40

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:54:32pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

OK. I changed the headline to reflect that this may not be an official account. But it’s obviously someone who wants people to think he is associated with them.

Isn’t impersonating against the TOS?

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:55:33pm

The DeRay tweet in this article has been deleted.

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ObserverArt  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:57:23pm

This is what I think of that…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:57:55pm

screenshot in case it “disappears”:

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:00:05pm

He deleted the tweet about Deray McKesson!

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Mattand  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:00:23pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

OK. I changed the headline to reflect that this may not be an official account. But it’s obviously someone who wants people to think he is associated with them.

Assuming it is CCJ, I can’t think of a better way to come full circle on Regan’s legacy regarding the GOP. He started courting these mouthbreathers in earnest 35 years ago. And now we have Trump and CCJ.

Thanks a lot.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:00:43pm

re: #29 CuriousLurker

Isn’t impersonating against the TOS?

Never mind, in the asshole’s profile s/he denies being affiliated with the foundation. Apparently using all or part of a famous name for your account is the best way to get followers when you’re a nobody.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:01:11pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Reagan Foundation should be really upset that this particular twitter account is pretending to be the official account.

So wait - did he just admit that Chuck Johnson shits on the floor?

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:01:26pm

Only a matter of time. Tick tock tick tock.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:01:26pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

He deleted the tweet about Deray McKesson!

Hope someone screencapped it.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:02:51pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

Only a matter of time. Tick tock tick tock.

Yeah, his ego won’t let him get away with it for long, then the person whose account he’s using is probably going to lose theirs also.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:02:52pm

re: #35 CuriousLurker

Never mind, in the asshole’s profile s/he denies being affiliated with the foundation. Apparently using all or part of a famous name for your account is the best way to get followers when you’re a nobody.

lol! pants on fire!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:04:03pm

First we need to go after this hijack them we need to go after @rabite.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:05:23pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

No shit.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:05:29pm

UpChuck’s obsession with Twitter is palpable. Kind of blows my mind. He *really* wants to get back on. He has a crummy website to spew his bile, but that’s not good enough. Signal noise something something.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:05:37pm

within the last couple of hours:

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:06:21pm

re: #34 Mattand

Enough is enough.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:07:16pm

Sad story from Philadelphia. Two guys were drag racing and one of them killed a mother and three children crossing the street. Trial just concluded and the driver of the car was convicted of four counts of third degree murder. Tragedy all around for both families. If you read the comments, you would think it was the mother’s fault for crossing the street EDIT and having children with different last names. Guess what race the driver is and guess what race the family is.

philly.com

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:08:48pm

re: #43 teleskiguy

Yep. He’s screwed without it. He’s stuck with websites that don’t even register with the top 100.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:08:49pm

I guess Coolidge doesn’t matter any more…

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:09:03pm

Eric The Fruit Bat, I noticed you had a little back-and-forth with weev not too long ago. That guy is a fucking horrible human being. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he turned out to be a murderer.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:09:09pm

re: #38 CuriousLurker

Hope someone screencapped it.

Always. See the update above.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:10:01pm

re: #41 Eric The Fruit Bat

First we need to go after this hijack them we need to go after @rabite.

It probably belongs to a fellow troll who’s allowing him to access his account via a VPN tunnel or some kind of proxy.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:11:39pm

re: #51 CuriousLurker

Well’ I’ll taunt him the next time he surfaces.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:15:16pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:16:16pm

re: #51 CuriousLurker

It probably belongs to a fellow troll who’s allowing him to access his account via a VPN tunnel or some kind of proxy.

Did we ever get a reliable response to UpChuck’s allegation that Twitter has blocked everyone who registered accounts from his house? He’s mentioned it several times since his banning.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:16:59pm

Chuck is seriously freaking out right about now.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:18:15pm

Had to get a floor poop snipe in before the account is banned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:18:56pm

Wondering if UpChuck can resist this:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:18:58pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

Had to get a floor poop snipe in before the account is banned.

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You are so blocked now LOL

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:19:26pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Somehow I doubt that-especially if he has a VPN. Now other behaviors may give him away, but a VPN my shield him.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:21:06pm

re: #54 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Did we ever get a reliable response to UpChuck’s allegation that Twitter has blocked everyone who registered accounts from his house? He’s mentioned it several times since his banning.

No way to know for sure, but it wouldn’t surprise me - because Twitter obviously is giving Chuck the nuclear option, and that’s the quickest way to make sure all his sock puppet accounts are suspended.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:21:08pm

re: #54 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s assuming Twitter recorded his IP (and that it’s static) when he didi his dirty deeds.

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Chez Ko Pe  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:22:15pm

Wow, Auernheimer’s avatar really captures the…essence of Chuckles’ douchebaggery.

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Tigger2  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:22:45pm
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Irving  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:22:46pm

Stupid people who think they’re smart always hang around the scene of the crime and preen , trying to prove how clever they are. Smart people do the deed, run like hell, and deny everything.

BTW, Charles? Not a fan of the “zoom in on the pic” mouseover effect. I clicked on the link and Chuck the Lesser was suddenly lurching towards me with blood in his eye. I just about fell out of my chair.

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Great White Snark  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:23:14pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:23:19pm

re: #61 Eric The Fruit Bat

That’s assuming Twitter recorded his IP (and that it’s static) when he didi his dirty deeds.

Then couldn’t he just get a new IP address?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:25:26pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Then couldn’t he just get a new IP address?

I think Chuck is actually a complete dumbshit when it comes to web technologies. I’ll bet he has no idea how to get a new IP address or use a VPN.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:27:15pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

I think Chuck is actually a complete dumbshit when it comes to web technologies. I’ll bet he has no idea how to get a new IP address or use a VPN.

Well, if he spent $50K and used a team of IT geeks to build a WordPress site, then his ignorance extends to more than web tech.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:29:00pm

An anonymous source has now confirmed that Chuck is “definitely” using this account.

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jaunte  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:29:40pm

re: #64 Irving

Chuck the Lesser was suddenly lurching towards me with blood in his eye. I just about fell out of my chair.

Sort of like watching The Strain.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:30:01pm

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

You are so blocked now LOL

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Tigger2  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:31:34pm

I got to make one tweet, I’m blocked. lol

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:32:37pm

re: #70 jaunte

Sort of like watching The Strain.

On another subject, last night’s season premier of The Strain was freaking awesome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:34:05pm

gonna try to grab some sleep before the next round of horrid storms arrives in a few hours.

laterz, lizards!

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:35:12pm

Great HR Derby Tonight, especially for a Reds fan

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:36:18pm

One wonders if the hot asian wife isn’t spiking his dinner with some wicked psychotropics - like ziprasidone, quetipaine, apriprazone, chrlorproazine, trilafon, stelazine, throrazine, thioxathine…..

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ObserverArt  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:36:53pm

Later!

More crazy around the corner…Jade Helm kicks off in 2 days.

I’m thinking one or more of the clown car occupants are going to say something like Obama is spending needless money on Jade Helm and it seems to be a political punishment on Texans and Arizonans to get them all riled up needlessly.

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Lidane  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:40:34pm

There really needs to be some kind of warning for that photo at the top of the page. My brain cells started to rebel when I realized who that was.

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jaunte  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:41:42pm

re: #78 Lidane

It’s the live remake of Alfred E. Neuman.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:42:22pm

re: #78 Lidane

There really needs to be some kind of warning for that photo at the top of the page. My brain cells started to rebel when I realized who that was.

I know, it’s incredibly horrifying. This is Chuck’s psycho face, the face he puts on when he’s trying to look likeable.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:42:47pm

re: #54 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Did we ever get a reliable response to UpChuck’s allegation that Twitter has blocked everyone who registered accounts from his house? He’s mentioned it several times since his banning.

I haven’t the slightest idea. That’s the first time I’ve heard of that.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:44:12pm

re: #76 Eric The Fruit Bat

One wonders if the hot asian wife isn’t spiking his dinner with some wicked psychotropics - like ziprasidone, quetipaine, apriprazone, chrlorproazine, trilafon, stelazine, throrazine, thioxathine…..

He’d look cool doing the thorazine shuffle.

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calochortus  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:47:56pm

I saw a clip of Scott Walker’s big announcement on the news this evening. Either he is wearing the world’s worst fitting shirt, or he is wearing something under it.

Since I don’t think he wears an industrial strength orthopedic corset, that leaves bulletproof vest as the only other option I can think of. The question is, why he would wear a bulletproof vest to announce for the presidential race. Is he going to wear one for the next year and a half? Is he just playing dress-up? Inquiring minds want to know.

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jaunte  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:48:37pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:48:52pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

I know, it’s incredibly horrifying. This is Chuck’s psycho face, the face he puts on when he’s trying to look likeable.

From the Adam Carolla interview. I superimposed a troll face over CCJ’s for my site.

If you watch Chuck’s interviews with his associate Peter Duke and with Milo, his behavior is very different from how he behaved on camera with Adam and Jason whatever his name is. When he’s in his home office, Chuck is almost manic, but in an outside studio he’s much more subdued. But I noticed he still has some tells when he says stuff that’s debatable or untruthful. For example, he tends to scratch his face or nose.

He boasts he made money in college playing poker. I don’t see how.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:48:54pm

re: #81 CuriousLurker

I haven’t the slightest idea. That’s the first time I’ve heard of that.

This might actually be true, because the easiest way to block all possible sock puppets of a known troll is to simply block the troll’s IP address.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:50:30pm

re: #84 jaunte

Absolutely stunning! Carl Sagan would have been so proud.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:51:52pm

I’ve gotta admit I’m not a fan of the zoom on the current article on the home page because it’s so large that I can’t really avoid mousing over it. The smaller ones are fine, though.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:52:51pm

re: #84 jaunte

One of the most incredible things about that picture is that there is so little light they must have had to increase the exposure time, yet there is no blurring.

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KingKenrod  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:55:12pm

I think Chuck must have bought @RonReaganLives from someone. The google cache shows about 1200 tweets from before July 1, but they are all gone now - looks like a bunch of Townhall retweets. I can only see one page:

webcache.googleusercontent.com

I think this going to be Chuck’s way of maintaining a presence on Twitter - get an account, tweet for awhile, then obviously out himself so he gets kicked off. Every time Twitter bans him he gets a news bump.

He has no desire to tweet anonymously - doesn’t feed his ego.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:56:41pm

re: #90 KingKenrod

That’s a hell of a catch. Nice work KingKenrod!

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:59:31pm

Some dude offered his twitter to Chuck, for a price. Chuck bought it.

That’s a whole nother can of worms for Twitter to consider.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:59:31pm

re: #89 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

One of the most incredible things about that picture is that there is so little light they must have had to increase the exposure time, yet there is no blurring.

Check out this website solarsystem.nasa.gov

If you put in your location, it’ll tell you at what time your local conditions approximate the lighting on Pluto. Turns out Pluto’s noon is like Earth’s twilight hours. It’s bright enough to read a book, but make sure your suit’s batteries are fully charged to keep the heaters going.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:02:26pm

@RonReaganLives has been quiet since this article went live.

I find this a great excuse to post a screenshot of the one time I was able to comment on UpChuck’s Facebook page.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:06:56pm

Oh to be a fly on the screen reading Charles’ email right now.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:07:41pm

re: #92 #FergusonFireside

Some dude offered his twitter to Chuck, for a price. Chuck bought it.

That’s a whole nother can of worms for Twitter to consider.

How in the world did he pay for it? With these????

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:11:49pm

The Ron Reagan account has blocked GotNwes after one tweet.

I had tweeted “Jelly Bellies, I hope. How do you like the chili bean flavor?”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:14:01pm
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aagcobb  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:14:54pm

Here is a pleasant surprise; in the latest polls, opposition to Obamacare has dropped below fifty percent, and support is pretty much even with opposition. The GOP is rapidly running out of issues to run on in the general election.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:17:46pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Yeah, he’s definitely suffered. But he’s taken it to such an extreme that it’s rather bad news. Instead of taking a Martin Luther King approach, he’s taking a George Wallace approach-and adding anti-antisemitism on top of it. Unfortunately, he was the wrong person getting prosecuted with a bad law, and he paid the price-and now he’s lashing out in fury.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:19:35pm

ICYMI

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Belafon  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:21:56pm

re: #101 #FergusonFireside

It’ll be interesting to see what the Texas chapters do, but if they go along, I can finally feel OK buying stuff from them.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:22:02pm

I’ve got that got dam itch in my nose that signals sinus infection is coming. arrrgh.

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The Ghost of the Abomination Colors  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:24:23pm

His name is Charles C Johnson.
He’s the journalistic clown.
He does a lot of cocaine.

I’m afraid that’s all we know.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:25:06pm

re: #101 #FergusonFireside

ICYMI

It’s another sign of the Gay-pocalypse!! They’re coming to take our kids. First, the Girl Scouts. Now, the Boy Scouts!! No one is safe!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:25:56pm

re: #103 #FergusonFireside

I’ve got that got dam itch in my nose that signals sinus infection is coming. arrrgh.

Or you’re getting money soon. That’s what my mom used to say, at least. Hope you have better luck than I did.

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rtth  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:27:19pm

The feature you have on the front page where the picture gets big when I mouse over it, can you combine that with a feature that detects when the picture is of a creepy wingnut’s face and then not do that?

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retired cynic  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:28:37pm

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I thought it was your palm. Huh.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:33:05pm

re: #108 retired cynic

I thought it was your palm. Huh.

That never worked either.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:33:17pm

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Or you’re getting money soon. That’s what my mom used to say, at least. Hope you have better luck than I did.

LOL! Never heard that one, We will seeeeeeeee.

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Belafon  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:34:13pm

A question for any astronomer types here: Do you know of a good software application that allows me to say I’m in Rockwall, TX (or the lat and long coordinates) and put in a date and time and it shows me what I should see in the sky?

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:36:52pm

Well, I’m off to bed. Here’s a video that a buddy of mine shot this weekend on the Aeolus shipwreck off the NC Coast. I’m starting it about 2 minutes in, where you see the first of several sand tiger sharks. This is the trip the dive club did this weekend, and I REALLY wish I had made it. They are at about 100 foot depth or so, sitting inside the ship (part of the hull is missing on the side)

…

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Lancelot Link  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:36:58pm

re: #96 RealityBasedSteve

How in the world did he pay for it? With these????

Embedded Image

No, with these

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:39:31pm

re: #111 Belafon

A question for any astronomer types here: Do you know of a good software application that allows me to say I’m in Rockwall, TX (or the lat and long coordinates) and put in a date and time and it shows me what I should see in the sky?

Stellarium.

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Belafon  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:40:39pm

re: #114 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Stellarium.

Thanks.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:42:09pm

re: #111 Belafon

A question for any astronomer types here: Do you know of a good software application that allows me to say I’m in Rockwall, TX (or the lat and long coordinates) and put in a date and time and it shows me what I should see in the sky?

Stellarium. It’s free.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:42:37pm

re: #90 KingKenrod

Interesting. The profile description was different too and the tone has definitely changed since June. I ran the handle through AllMyTweets and it only went back as far as July 3, so something definitely seems to have happened between the last cached version (May 31 - June 22 with 1,206 tweets), and the current tweets (July 3 - Today with 219 221 tweets).

So 1200 tweets in a 4 - 4.5 year time span (sometime in 2011 - June 2015), then 221 in a 10-day time span (from July 3 - July 13). That’s a sudden increase from less than 1 per day to more than 20 per day.

I hope Twitter is looking into the odd activity change.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:42:54pm
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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:43:36pm

re: #101 #FergusonFireside

ICYMI

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Ha! Now all the wingnuts have to pull their kids out of the Boy Scouts and try to explain why.

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Belafon  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:43:41pm

re: #116 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:44:06pm

re: #117 CuriousLurker

something definitely seems to have happened…

Chuck happened.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:45:12pm

Chuck glommed onto a Ron Reagan account because there’s no Coolidge twitter account.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:45:41pm

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Or you’re getting money soon. That’s what my mom used to say, at least. Hope you have better luck than I did.

When I grew up it was: itchy palm = money, itchy nose = gonna kiss a fool.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:46:37pm

re: #123 CuriousLurker

When I grew up it was: itchy palm = money, itchy nose = gonna kiss a fool.

THAT is more likely.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:48:35pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

Chuck happened.

It certainly looks that way. If it’s him, and I suspect it is, his ego + his impatience will screw it up soon enough (it has already begun to, actually).

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CleverToad  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:48:55pm

re: #107 rtth

The mouse-over feature was really cool on the picture of Pluto. Some of the other headliners did not improve on a closer view.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:50:41pm

re: #126 CleverToad

The mouse-over feature was really cool on the picture of Pluto. Some of the other headliners did not improve on a closer view.

Heh, yeah, I could do without the close-ups of Trump, Fischer, Upchuck, etc.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:51:19pm

John Cole is right—this will never get old:

MP4 Video

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:51:37pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

LGF readers are complaining about the picture of Chuck Johnson I used, because he looks so disturbingly psychotic.

Well, it’s not as if there’s a way to look comfortingly psychotic….

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:53:39pm

re: #125 CuriousLurker

It certainly looks that way. If it’s him, and I suspect it is, his ego + his impatience will screw it up soon enough (it has already begun to, actually).

20 tweets a day sure sounds like our boy. Take this for example:

Just give it time, junior
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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:56:45pm

Here’s a screenshot of Chuck’s Facebook post bragging about his access to a Twitter account with 23,000 followers:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:58:45pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

Here’s a screenshot of Chuck’s Facebook post bragging about his access to a Twitter account with 23,000 followers:

Embedded Image

HAHAHAHAHA! He is incapable of keeping quiet.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:59:54pm

Notice that Chuck has been posting to this account since July 6th.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:00:03pm

re: #128 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

John Cole is right—this will never get old:

[Embedded content]

My neighbors heard that lol.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:00:29pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

Here’s a screenshot of Chuck’s Facebook post bragging about his access to a Twitter account with 23,000 followers:

[Embedded content]

HA! What an idiot—can’t control the ego worth a shit.

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:01:05pm

This seems like a simple decision for Twitter.

What’s the delay?

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:02:14pm

re: #135 CuriousLurker

Great gif! I like this picture, procured by goddamnedfrank a while back. Haven’t used it in a while, might as well now! :)

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:04:21pm

Bait him extraordinarily. I want to see something hilarious and jaw dropping.

signed…..The Rubbernecker Society.

(he’s reading this, but I don’t think you need to fear his reflexes)

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SteelPH  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:05:09pm

Dear Chuck,

Stop digging.

EDIT: Damn it, beat me to it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:07:30pm

re: #139 SteelPH

Dear Chuck,

EDIT: Damn it, beat me to it.

Gotta get up real early around here, if you want to get out of bed.
//

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:10:58pm

Twitter counter for this article is approaching 1,000.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:16:53pm

re: #138 #FergusonFireside

Bait him extraordinarily. I want to see something hilarious and jaw dropping.

signed…..The Rubbernecker Society.

(he’s reading this, but I don’t think you need to fear his reflexes)

He blocks anyone he suspects is associated with LGF or is likely to challenge him. No way to have a lengthy exchange with him.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:17:41pm

Uh, guys, I think we’re missing something here….

Something about fraudulent access/theft of services?

CCJ could be in a whole lot of legal shit here….

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:18:22pm

It is hilarious to imagine that Charles’ source was HotAsianWife.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:20:04pm

re: #143 Eric The Fruit Bat

Uh, guys, I think we’re missing something here….

Something about fraudulent access/theft of services?

CCJ could be in a whole lot of legal shit here….

If the original owner granted Chuck access willingly, or for payment, I think their only worry is Twitter’s TOS. If he hacked the account, then there’d be some legal issues.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:21:39pm

I think UpChuck is spooked. @RonReaganLives was tweeting like a fire hose all day today, and since this article (which has been viewed thousands of times in just a couple of hours) went live…silence.

The jig is up dude. You don’t need a damn Twitter account, you have your own website and you write for TakiMag now, you have a voice!

I’m writing this knowing full-well UpChuck may be reading.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:24:01pm

re: #142 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

…………………………………………………………………..

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:24:58pm

re: #146 teleskiguy

I think UpChuck is spooked. @RonReaganLives was tweeting like a fire hose all day today, and since this article (which has been viewed thousands of times in just a couple of hours) went live…silence.

The jig is up dude. You don’t need a damn Twitter account, you have your own website and you write for TakiMag now, you have a voice!

I’m writing this knowing full-well UpChuck may be reading.

Embedded Image

He’s definitely reading these comments. Bet on it.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:26:13pm

re: #143 Eric The Fruit Bat

Uh, guys, I think we’re missing something here….

Something about fraudulent access/theft of services?

CCJ could be in a whole lot of legal shit here….

Purchase of a Twitter account is suspect to me. Is it allowed? heh

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:32:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:36:07pm
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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:36:11pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:36:14pm

re: #149 #FergusonFireside

Purchase of a Twitter account is suspect to me. Is it allowed?

No.

Selling usernames: You may not buy or sell Twitter usernames.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:37:59pm

Warning: Potentially psychologically damaging picture of UpChuck. It does include some funny audio by our pal Bob Cesca.

Click to Reveal

Video

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:38:04pm

re: #153 goddamnedfrank

No.

Well then.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:38:37pm

re: #152 CuriousLurker

Embedded Image

Typical Chuck. fucking asshole.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:42:11pm

Yeesh! I just wanted to post the audio of Bob Cesca skewering UpChuck. The audio is there, along with a hideous mug of the man/boy sucking on the wet end of a burning brown cock (apologies to the late George Carlin).

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:44:01pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

He’s definitely reading these comments. Bet on it.

Charles, I’ve always wondered, can you block an IP address to keep it from lurking?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:46:47pm

re: #158 austin_blue

Charles, I’ve always wondered, can you block an IP address to keep it from lurking?

Oh yeah. Charles had me blocked for a while (not intentionally) because some Chinese hackers were spamming his site. So he blocked all of China. Haha!

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:47:48pm

re: #157 teleskiguy

Yeesh! I just wanted to post the audio of Bob Cesca skewering UpChuck. The audio is there, along with a hideous mug of the man/boy sucking on the wet end of a burning brown cock (apologies to the late George Carlin).

Gah—my eyes! Please go back and put it in a spoiler or private tag and leave a warning about the pic. *gag*

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:48:07pm

re: #157 teleskiguy

Fuck man, got to thinking. And I realized, I don’t have to apologize to George Carlin for anything. He’s fucking dead.

And now, some George Carlin musing about death.

…

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:48:22pm

re: #159 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh yeah. Charles had me blocked for a while (not intentionally) because some Chinese hackers were spamming his site. So he blocked all of China. Haha!

Viewing or posting? That’s the question.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:51:30pm

re: #160 CuriousLurker

Gah—my eyes! Please go back and put it in a spoiler or private tag and leave a warning about the pic. *gag*

Ask and ye shall receive!

:-D

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:51:55pm

re: #158 austin_blue

Charles, I’ve always wondered, can you block an IP address to keep it from lurking?

Yes, there are Apache directives that will allow you to block by an IP address or a whole range of them.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:54:29pm

re: #162 austin_blue

Viewing or posting? That’s the question.

Viewing. No access at all. I was sad.

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:54:34pm

re: #164 CuriousLurker

Yes, there are Apache directives that will allow you to block by an IP address or a whole range of them.

Well, damn! Them Redskins is cleverererer than I thought! Geronimo!

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:55:51pm

I’m using an IPv4. Is it better to have IPv6? How does the intertoobs work?

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:56:17pm

re: #165 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Viewing. No access at all. I was sad.

Thanks, my man, glad you are back on board. How’s the air quality index today?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:57:20pm

re: #158 austin_blue

Charles, I’ve always wondered, can you block an IP address to keep it from lurking?

Yes, but if you do that they see a browser message that they’re forbidden from accessing the page. I prefer to be a little more… uh… circumspect about blocking people.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:00:05pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

Usually, that is, unless I need to block a whole IP range, which I try to avoid.

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:00:36pm

re: #167 teleskiguy

I’m using an IPv4. Is it better to have IPv6? How does the intertoobs work?

The interwebs is deeply mysterious to many of us. I just click on LGF and there it is! Praise Jebuzz! I can post ‘n’ shit!

Bless my Luddite soul, but it’s a fucking miracle of modern technology.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:01:42pm

re: #168 austin_blue

Thanks, my man, glad you are back on board. How’s the air quality index today?

Where I am, it’s moderate — 61 on a scale of 500. It’s 78 in Beijing right now stateair.net

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:03:44pm

I remember briefly getting banned by Stinky for saying that “Glenn Beck should be flogged in public,” something to that effect, and I exchanged a couple of emails with Charles and I was let back in. I can recall during that very brief time I could still see articles and read comments.

Charles has this shit down to a science, people. And he brought the joint back from the brink. I was scrolling through a thread from Dec. 2008 about creationism and there were a lot of loons and nutballs saying crazy stuff about a lot of things.

LGF is my favorite blog. I think one of the reasons is it’s one of the oldest on the internet. We readers have been able to see an evolution of how these things work.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:05:17pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

Wanring: Potentially psychologically damaging picture of UpChuck. It does include some funny audio by our pal Bob Cesca.

[Embedded content]

Thank you!
*muah!*

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:06:15pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

Usually, that is, unless I need to block a whole IP range, which I try to avoid.

I understand completely, but given your 169, and an earlier post about knowing CCJ’s IP, which is now connected to the faux Twitter account, can’t you make LGF a black hole to him?

Or are you baiting him?

Oh, hell, if he’s watching this it’s getting terribly Machiavellian.

In any case, enquiring minds, etc…

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:07:59pm

re: #175 austin_blue

I’m lying in bed laughing way too much. Hahaha

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:08:32pm

re: #175 austin_blue

I understand completely, but given your 169, and an earlier post about knowing CCJ’s IP, which is now connected to the faux Twitter account, can’t you make LGF a black hole to him?

Or are you baiting him?

Oh, hell, if he’s watching this it’s getting terribly Machiavellian.

In any case, enquiring minds, etc…

He could still use a VPN to access LGF. That’s what I did until Charles opened a window for me.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:09:09pm

re: #174 CuriousLurker

Thank you!

*muah!*

You’re welcome! Glad you reminded me, had to correct a typo in the very first word, as you so nicely documented for me here.

Oh, you can edit comments here! That little pencil in the corner. For a limited time only!

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:10:55pm

Nighty. Excellent LGF sleuth night.

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:11:13pm

re: #177 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He could still use a VPN to access LGF. That’s what I did until Charles opened a window for me.

Oh, goddammit, now you are using an entirely obscure acronym to fuck with the old fart. What the hell is a VPN?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:13:59pm

re: #180 austin_blue

Oh, goddammit, now you are using an entirely obscure acronym to fuck with the old fart. What the hell is a VPN?

Virtual Private Network. It reroutes your network traffic through another IP address or IP addresses. I use one to get around the Great Firewall of China, so I can access Twitter, Facebook, etc. VPNs can also conceal your actual IP address for security reasons.

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The War TARDIS  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:15:38pm

What is so fascinating about Pluto and Charon, as we get closer, is the contrast.

Pluto is a dwarf planet that has far fewer craters than one would expect, and it is very, very contrastive in colorm being mostly an orange-ish to red-ish color. However, there are vast areas that are White in Color, and large areas of it are quite dark to black. It even looks like it is gradually erasing its craters.

Contrast this to Charon. Deader than a Door-Nail, like our moon. Covered in craters, and with at least 2 massive Canyons. And virtually no color to it, just a dark grey, with black polar feature.

I can live with the fact it is a dwarf planet, if only for the fact that the IAU’s definition of a planet may come back to bite it in the ass.

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Chan Kobun  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:17:32pm

Quick note for those embedding things like Soundcloud players: Flash is still massively vulnerable. Until it’s fixed, some of us aren’t willing ot risk it.

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Jenner7  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:17:45pm

“Put….the candle…bek!”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:18:18pm

re: #182 The War TARDIS

NASA/JPL says Pluto’s pinkish color comes from the frozen nitrogen covering the surface. The white, from frozen water and CO. The darker areas might be rocky areas, or debris fields from impacts.

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:19:12pm

re: #181 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Virtual Private Network. It reroutes your network traffic through another IP address or IP addresses. I use one to get around the Great Firewall of China, so I can access Twitter, Facebook, etc. VPNs can also conceal your actual IP address for security reasons.

Ah! Thank you. Seeing as how this site is visible to everyone with a VPR, such as you have admitted to using in the Dynasty, there will soon be a knock on your door by people in uniform who will want to ask you some questions about your computer use.

Good luck, and it sucks to be you!

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:20:51pm

re: #183 Chan Kobun

Quick note for those embedding things like Soundcloud players: Flash is still massively vulnerable. Until it’s fixed, some of us aren’t willing ot risk it.

Noted.

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:21:38pm

re: #184 Jenner7

“Put….the candle…bek!”

Young Frankenstein?

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:21:52pm

I know I’ll still use Flash players in comments. I actually like things like Soundcloud and TubeChop. Still, I get it. Flash crashes browsers very easily.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:22:03pm

re: #180 austin_blue

Oh, goddammit, now you are using an entirely obscure acronym to fuck with the old fart. What the hell is a VPN?

Heh. It’s basically an encrypted tunnel that allows you to access the web/internet through another network. It’s like what you would do if you were working from home and needed to access your company’s private network—they usually have some kind of VPN appliance that provides the tunnel where you can log in. (Addendum: So if you logged on to LGF while you were using your employer’s network, the LGF logs would show their IP address instead of your home IP.)

A VPN device can run anywhere from a couple of hundred dollars for a personal one, up into the thousands of dollars for corporate enterprise systems.

————————————————————

It’s after 1:00 am here, so I’m out.

Later, lizards.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:22:50pm

re: #186 austin_blue

Ah! Thank you. Seeing as how this site is visible to everyone with a VPR, such as you have admitted to using in Dynasty, there will soon be a knock on your door by people in uniform who will want to ask you some questions about your computer use.

Good luck, and it sucks to be you!

Officially, VPNs are illegal in China, yet they are widely used in the commercial world. Businesses need access to Bloomberg, Google/GMail, Facebook and Twitter for obvious reasons. As long as I use it for largely mundane purposes, I’ll be safe.

It’s called self-censorship in some quarters. Even foreign news correspondents and authors are circumspect about what they say online, so their visas don’t get revoked.

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The War TARDIS  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:25:11pm

re: #185 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yep.

Triton, which is quite similar to Pluto, is a geologically active world.

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Jenner7  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:25:56pm

re: #188 austin_blue

Yep. Prompted by Teleskiguy’s #146. First thing that popped in my head.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:27:03pm

re: #188 austin_blue

Young Frankenstein?

My .gif! Saved in my personal image stash, which - from the Image Library button in the comment field - runs 63 pages. All kinds of goodies there, I go back to my Image Library at LGF often.

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Kragar  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:33:06pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:35:28pm

re: #195 Kragar

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Kragar  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:38:44pm
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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:42:31pm

re: #195 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Well, “off(ic)al” may be a new word relating to intestines, so maybe that’s okay, in a bizarre sort of Wisconsin way..

“Scott Walker Has Got An Offical Plan For America!”

You know, gutsy.

And with that foray into absolute weirdness, I am for the rack.

Good night all, and sweet scaly dreams.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:42:56pm

My biggest complaint about the internet. Why doesn’t Twitter allow for a brief period of time to edit tweets for typos and discrepancies (like here)?

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The War TARDIS  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:44:36pm

Hoping that, because of New Horizons, we get a Doctor Who story on it for Christmas, or Series 10. ^_^

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:58:51pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:07:16pm

re: #201 teleskiguy

Curses! Foiled again! Libtrolls and SJWs uncover my stealth Twitter account

Being yet another peek into the mind of Award Winning JournalistTM Chuck C. Johnson. Some aspects may only be imaginary.

Using my high IQ strategies, I found a way to get back onto Twitter after more than a month of going cold turkey. The answer? Find someone with a Twitter account willing to let me use it.

And it would have worked if those packs of ravening Social Justice Warriors and libtrolls circling around Twitter hadn’t sniffed me out, thanks to some stool pigeons anonymous sources who outed me.

“Outed me” links to this article, BTW.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:09:28pm

re: #202 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well done, my friend! I always enjoy and appreciate wheatdogg and his GotNwes side-project!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:11:06pm

re: #203 teleskiguy

Well done, my friend! I always enjoy and appreciate wheatdogg and his GotNwes side-project!

Thx! By the way,

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:15:02pm

re: #204 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Private Comment

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:18:36pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:19:23pm

re: #205 teleskiguy

OK. Let’s see what happens.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:22:31pm

re: #207 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Private Comment

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:24:31pm

re: #208 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:27:12pm

re: #209 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:32:05pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:33:58pm

OK. Got real world stuff to do. Later on!

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:36:15pm

Private comments, man. I love LGF.

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2015 • 1:15:23am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:07:47am

We’re up early, in CDT, so let’s get our Moment of Alabama Shame out of the way:

Alabama’s chief justice: Satan made Supreme Court ‘destroy the institution of God’ in marriage ruling

rawstory.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:15:19am

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:30:40am

Site with a good countdown clock for the New Horizons flyby:

telegraph.co.uk

The newspaper suggests the new size measurements could reopen Pluto’s status. Take that, Tyson.

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Varek Raith  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:31:43am

re: #220 Decatur Deb

Site with a good countdown clock for the New Horizons flyby:

telegraph.co.uk

The newspaper suggests the new size measurements could reopen Pluto’s status. Take that, Tyson.

You’re a Pluto truther?
/disappoint

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wrenchwench  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:34:06am

re: #219 Varek Raith

Deal reached on Iran nuclear program, diplomats say

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:36:09am

re: #221 Varek Raith

You’re a Pluto truther?
/disappoint

Splitter!!!

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:37:35am

Since we’re probably going to be hearing a lot today about Neville Chamberlain, might as well play some music from 1939:

MP3 Audio

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:41:55am

I don’t think size is the main consideration. If Ceres were alone in the asteroid belt, we wouldn’t hesitate to call it a planet, even though it’s <600 miles in diameter.

There should be a name for a body that cleared its sector of the protoplanetary nebula and absorbed all the planetesimals that it could. Historically, that word is “planet”.

Pluto is only the largest (maybe) of many similar bodies in the Kuiper belt. “major planet” and “minor planet” would be OK, but unfortunately “minor planet” has been used as a synonym for “asteroid” for too long.

Planets (and comets) have been known since antiquity. The first asteroid (Ceres) was only discovered in 1801*, the first Kuiper Belt Object (Pluto) in 1930. I think it’s a lot more interesting to be the first of a whole new class of object like Ceres and Pluto than to be just another planet.

*Edited to change 1800 to 1801—early morning, January 1, 1801, the first day of the 19th century.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:43:39am

re: #224 freetoken

Since we’re probably going to be hearing a lot today about Neville Chamberlain, might as well play some music from 1939:

[Embedded content]

Segue:
Pluto was discovered in 1930, four years before Holst’s death, and was hailed by astronomers as the ninth planet. Holst, however, expressed no interest in writing a movement for the new planet. He had become disillusioned by the popularity of the suite, believing that it took too much attention away from his other works.[27]

In the March 1972 final broadcast of his Young People’s Concerts series, conductor Leonard Bernstein led the New York Philharmonic through a fairly straight interpretation of the suite, though Bernstein discarded the Saturn movement because he thought the theme of old age was irrelevant to a concert for children. The broadcast concluded with an improvised performance he called “Pluto, the Unpredictable.”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:46:44am

re: #225 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Calling it “planet” or “dumptruck” will have no measurable effect on its orbit.

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:48:13am

re: #226 Decatur Deb

“Saturn” is still harder to find compared to some of the other planets in Holst’s suite.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:51:00am

re: #228 freetoken

“Saturn” is still harder to find compared to some of the other planets in Holst’s suite.

I see it’s missing from the wiki sidebar selections.

en.wikipedia.org

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:02:19am

Continuing with the theme of likely endless poor analogies to remaking European war blunders, here is Ravel’s La Valse, written immediately after WWI and of which some have claimed:

“Whether or not it was intended as a metaphor for the predicament of European civilization in the aftermath of the Great War, its one-movement design plots the birth, decay and destruction of a musical genre: the waltz.”[1]

MP3 Audio

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:07:25am

re: #230 freetoken

Continuing with the theme of likely endless poor analogies to remaking European war blunders, here is Ravel’s La Valse, written immediately after WWI and of which some have claimed:

[Embedded content]

No vedding valses in my county:

Same sex marriage supporters rally again

Some brave people, though.

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:08:03am

I guess we’ll need lots of popcorn:

A PARTY DIVIDED

Republicans for a generation have followed a reliable blueprint in choosing their White House nominees. In a crowded primary, as conservative candidates split votes, a single right-of-center contender—deemed “most electable” by the GOP elite—consolidates the support of moderates and, with the establishment’s blessing and tactical aid, tallies enough delegates to secure the nomination.

Crumple up that blueprint and throw it away. Ahead of the 2016 election, according to a National Journal survey, the Republican establishment is divided every which way.

We put three questions to the Republican National Committee’s 100 committeemen and women representing the 50 states: Whom would you vote for today? Who do you think is most likely to win the nomination? And who would be the best candidate to take on Hillary Clinton? In interviews with more than 50 of them, opinions on the 2016 field revealed a jarring lack of consensus among the party’s ruling class.

Their answers show that no one candidate is poised to monopolize the structural and institutional support that has sustained every recent Republican nominee. […]

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:08:08am

Pluto’s new diameter gives it an area of ~6,816,000 square miles—a little larger than Russia. Almost exactly Canada and Australia put together—so, not a tiny place. Charon has half the (land) area of the United States.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:12:00am

re: #233 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Pluto’s new diameter gives it an area of ~6,816,000 square miles—a little larger than Russia.

Then let’s rename it Plutin

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:14:38am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Then let’s rename it Plutin

Only if we can ship him there to rule over it.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:16:19am

re: #232 freetoken

I guess we’ll need lots of popcorn:

A PARTY DIVIDED

That’s the most significant perspective I’ve seen on the TPGOP primary. They relied on the adults to pull them back from the crazy—now there might be no sane consensus at the heart of their party.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:20:23am

re: #235 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Only if we can ship him there to rule over it.

There is a way:
10.20
Shhhh, don’t tell anyone but there are actually eight secret items on board New Horizons.

1. The ashes of discoverer Clyde Tombaugh

Check the new vine at the site in #220—really cool.

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:23:32am

re: #236 Decatur Deb

Time marches on. It stands still for no one.

Eventually “the establishment” GOP of one generation dies off, and it is replaced with… ?

It’s pretty clear from all the sources around us that the GOP now is the party of reactionary populism. It’s gone a nearly full 180 degrees from it’s founding of progressive populism.

I for one do not think Hillary is a shoe-in. I can see some populist (or pretending to be one) GOP candidate winning, though that would take a lot of coordination from currently competing groups (like Rand Pauls’ glibertarians supporting a neo-victorian Cruz/Scott combo.)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:29:17am

re: #238 freetoken

Time marches on. It stands still for no one.

Eventually “the establishment” GOP of one generation dies off, and it is replaced with… ?

It’s pretty clear from all the sources around us that the GOP now is the party of reactionary populism. It’s gone a nearly full 180 degrees from it’s founding of progressive populism.

I for one do not think Hillary is a shoe-in. I can see some populist (or pretending to be one) GOP candidate winning, though that would take a lot of coordination from currently competing groups (like Rand Pauls’ glibertarians supporting a neo-victorian Cruz/Scott combo.)

Yup—no sure things. If HRC falters for any reason, Sanders and Warren would be attractive, but Biden would be safer. With the pack of dipshits the GOP is running, preventing the worst is more critical than choosing the best.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:30:22am

re: #237 Decatur Deb

There is a way:
10.20
Shhhh, don’t tell anyone but there are actually eight secret items on board New Horizons.

1. The ashes of discoverer Clyde Tombaugh

I am so proud. I used to live at the base of Mars Hill in Flagstaff Arizona, where the Lowerll Observatory is located, the place where Clyde Tombaugh discovered Pluto.

The observatory was built by Percival Lowell to discover the “canals” of Mars, a misconception based on a mistranslation of an Italian astronomer’s report of having observed canali (channels) on Mars.

Percy was convinced they were made by Martian and spent a big chunk of his family fortune building the observatory where his remains are now buried.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:34:59am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I am so proud. I used to live at the base of Mars Hill in Flagstaff Arizona, where the Lowerll Observatory is located, the place where Clyde Tombaugh discovered Pluto.

The observatory was built by Percival Lowell to discover the “canals” of Mars, a misconception based on a mistranslation of an Italian astronomer’s report of having observed canali (channels) on Mars.

Percy was convinced they were made by Martian and spent a big chunk of his family fortune building the observatory where his remains are now buried.

If real-world demands were no issue, I would have studied to be an astronomer in time to join its golden age. (Only took one course, back when the Einstein-De Sitter model was hot shit.) Instead I went for the big-money business of Anthropology.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:39:16am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I am so proud. I used to live at the base of Mars Hill in Flagstaff Arizona, where the Lowerll Observatory is located, the place where Clyde Tombaugh discovered Pluto.

The observatory was built by Percival Lowell to discover the “canals” of Mars, a misconception based on a mistranslation of an Italian astronomer’s report of having observed canali (channels) on Mars.

Percy was convinced they were made by Martian and spent a big chunk of his family fortune building the observatory where his remains are now buried.

He also wanted to find “Planet X”, calculated to be out there from analysis of the residuals in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune, the same way Neptune itself was discovered. Tombaugh—just a high-school kid, really*—found Pluto, but it gradually became obvious it wasn’t large enough to explain the residuals.

People went a little crazy—theorizing that it was made out of condensed matter, or something. It wasn’t until 10 years after Voyager’s flyby of Neptune that somebody thought to put the new, more accurate masses for both Uranus and Neptune that Voyager measured into the equations, and lo and behold, the residuals essentially disappeared. (Zero is well within the error bars.)

*When he finally got to college and signed up for Introductory Astronomy, the professor wouldn’t let him take it. He said it was inconceivable for a planet discoverer to take Astronomy 101!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:54:45am

re: #219 Varek Raith

Deal reached on Iran nuclear program, diplomats say

The Republicans may succeed in scuttling this deal—for us. Germany, Britain, France, Russia, and China are enough to make the easing of sanctions worth it for the Iranians—all our sitting it out would do is rob us of any advantage.

That John Kerry was able to negotiate this deal almost reconciles me to the fact that he wasn’t president from 2005-13…Nah!

Seriously, though, look at the quality of the people at each end of our political spectrum. How these pygmies and trolls in the GOP keep getting elected to anything—SMH.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 14, 2015 • 3:56:37am

re: #243 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Republicans may succeed in scuttling this deal—for us.

Anything to annoy an librul.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:13:05am
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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:13:15am

re: #243 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Republicans may succeed in scuttling this deal—for us. Germany, Britain, France, Russia, and China are enough to make the easing of sanctions worth it for the Iranians—all our sitting it out would do is rob us of any advantage.

That John Kerry was able to negotiate this deal almost reconciles me to the fact that he wasn’t president from 2005-13…Nah!

Seriously, though, look at the quality of the people at each end of our political spectrum. How these pygmies and trolls in the GOP keep getting elected to anything—SMH.

Well, the fortunate thing for us is that the Republicans don’t have to succeed in killing a bill to approve the deal, but instead have to get veto-proof majorities in both houses to support a bill rejecting the deal. So all the President has to do is keep enough Democrats on his side to deny Republicans those majorities.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:17:20am

Now that didn’t take long

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:19:05am

re: #246 Targetpractice

Well, the fortunate thing for us is that the Republicans don’t have to succeed in killing a bill to approve the deal, but instead have to get veto-proof majorities in both houses to support a bill rejecting the deal. So all the President has to do is keep enough Democrats on his side to deny Republicans those majorities.

Yeah, I think Tehran Tom and the rest of the Yahoos think this is a treaty that they can refuse to ratify. And even if it were, we could continue to adhere to it as long as a Democrat’s in the White House. We adhered to the SALT II treaty into the Shrub administration, even though we never ratified it.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:20:13am

re: #248 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, I think Tehran Tom and the rest of the Yahoos think this is a treaty that they can refuse to ratify. And even if it were, we could continue to adhere to it as long as a Democrat’s in the White House. We adhered to the SALT II treaty into the Shrub administration, even though we never ratified it.

Oh, I very much expect Tehran Tom and/or Havana Ted to lie about the agreement they made and voted upon in order to continue asserting that Congress must approve the deal and enforcing it without Congressional approval will be unconstitutional.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:44:40am

re: #226 Decatur Deb

Segue:
Pluto was discovered in 1930, four years before Holst’s death, and was hailed by astronomers as the ninth planet. Holst, however, expressed no interest in writing a movement for the new planet. He had become disillusioned by the popularity of the suite, believing that it took too much attention away from his other works.[27]

In the March 1972 final broadcast of his Young People’s Concerts series, conductor Leonard Bernstein led the New York Philharmonic through a fairly straight interpretation of the suite, though Bernstein discarded the Saturn movement because he thought the theme of old age was irrelevant to a concert for children. The broadcast concluded with an improvised performance he called “Pluto, the Unpredictable.”

“Jupiter: The Bringer of Jollity” is the only track in the suite worth listening to. All the other tracks are lame.

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JoyP  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:52:34am

OMG! Don’t do that again. It’s the first thing I see this morning and it’s WAY too early to see that thing staring back at me. He’s really working hard to stay relevant.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:52:48am

Wingnuts are already cranking up the Firehose Of RageTM over the Iran talks.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:53:20am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:53:33am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are already cranking up the Firehose Of RageTM over the Iran talks.

Of course they are. It’s Tuesday.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:53:52am
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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:55:43am

Mornin’ everyone. Another Tuesday, another historic day for the best lame duck president ever.

Congratulations to John Kerry and everyone else involved in these talks.

There’s nothing like waking up to discover we have one less enemy in the world.

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JoyP  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:55:56am

re: #11 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin

Chucky has nothing else to do.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:56:37am

re: #253 Targetpractice

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:58:36am
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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 4:59:38am

re: #259 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Okay, seriously, who here believes that there will a Republican candidate who accepts the deal?

Anybody?

Anybody?

Bueller?

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:01:12am
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dharmamark  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:07:19am

re: #173 teleskiguy

I definitely remember the old ‘war blog’ days. I slipped away for a few years, but peeked back in occasionally. It’s become my go to blog once again. Smartest community online.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:09:46am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:11:32am

re: #261 darthstar

Best shot until tonight:

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:12:21am
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:16:18am

re: #195 Kragar

And they wonder why people call those running for the GOP nomination “the clown car.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:17:50am

re: #266 darthstar

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What an idiot. Anybody who thinks you can keep someone from acquiring 70-year-old technology any other way than by getting them to agree not to develop it is a moron. Of course you could “Bomb them back into the Stone Age”. That worked so well with Viet Nam.

I personally see the current situation, with only Israel in the region possessing nuclear weapons as unstable. We managed to get through the last 70 years without WW III because neither of the superpowers had a monopoly. If the US had continued to be the only one with nuclear weapons, we would have used them. I don’t trust the Israelis not to do the same.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:19:03am

re: #217 Decatur Deb

We’re up early, in CDT, so let’s get our Moment of Alabama Shame out of the way:

Alabama’s chief justice: Satan made Supreme Court ‘destroy the institution of God’ in marriage ruling

rawstory.com

I was talking to God just a couple of minutes ago. He seemed okay to me.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:20:20am

re: #266 darthstar

[Embedded content]

“We should walk away.” Yeah, because that worked so well for us under your brother’s leadership, right? Just holding out for a “better deal” was totally stopping Iran from advancing its nuclear research, right?

This is what passes for diplomacy in the GOP, wishful thinking and fairy farts.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:22:01am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:22:42am

re: #269 Romantic Heretic

And they wonder why people call those running for the GOP nomination “the clown car.”

You know, he could have left off the middle red stripe—it still would have looked like an “E”. Plus, that would have looked just like The Stars and Bars—well, without the stars. That would have been very appropriate for a Neoconfederate candidate. Either his team is totally clueless or they don’t give a shit. Does he have a stolen theme song sung by people who hate him yet?

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:23:31am

Never bring a sword to a busty-wench fight.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:26:43am

re: #276 darthstar

Never bring a sword to a busty-wench fight.

[Embedded content]

Was she wielding a wrench?

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:28:15am

re: #274 darthstar

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Well, they have to lure him out in front of the cameras. After all, John McCain is a timid creature that totally shuns the limelight.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:30:19am
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:30:50am

re: #243 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Seriously, though, look at the quality of the people at each end of our political spectrum. How these pygmies and trolls in the GOP keep getting elected to anything—SMH.

Carlin explained it nicely.

Now, there’s one thing you might have noticed I don’t complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain’t going to do any good; you’re just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it’s not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here… like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There’s a nice campaign slogan for somebody: “The Public Sucks. Fuck Hope.”

You know, it’s rather cool that I can say “Carlin” and everybody knows who I’m talking about.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:32:47am
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:35:38am

re: #277 Decatur Deb

Was she wielding a wrench?

Have you ever been hit with a medieval beer stein? Those things hurt!

Don’t ask how I know.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:35:39am

re: #280 Romantic Heretic

Carlin explained it nicely.

You know, it’s rather cool that I can say “Carlin” and everybody knows who I’m talking about.

Wasn’t he the father of “Don’t vote—it only encourages them” though?

IMO, that’s why we’re in the situation we’re in….

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:37:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:37:12am

re: #265 dharmamark

I definitely remember the old ‘war blog’ days. I slipped away for a few years, but peeked back in occasionally. It’s become my go to blog once again. Smartest community online.

I came to this site via “whiskey bar”, which Billmon closed down, many of the followers went over to “moonofalabama”, which is now pretty wingnutty.

when I got here, it was conservative as hell, but most of the commenters had solid arguments and were not assholes about it.

and they were consistently anti-evolutionist.

and yes, this site is evolution in action.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:38:32am

Has “return after posting reply” always been there? That’s a really neat feature. Never noticed it before.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:38:41am
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:38:45am

re: #284 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wasn’t he the father of “Don’t vote—it only encourages them” though?

IMO, that’s why we’re in the situation we’re in….

I don’t know. The ‘I don’t vote because they’re all the same’ crowd is certainly a big problem though.

I wonder how much overlap there is in a Venn Diagram of ‘don’t vote’ and ‘stupid, ignorant voters’.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:39:25am

Tunure is gone in Wisconsin.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:42:03am

re: #288 darthstar

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“A historic deal” is American. “An historic deal” is British. That’s my opinion, anyway. At least it’s not like in French, where you have to remember which “h”s are “silent”—even though they’re all silent.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:42:59am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. There’s an Iran deal to sort through, and I’ve yet to read the full text to know what it states, and I’m sure lots of people who are busy punditing and tweeting their opinions have read through it all before pronouncing it the worst deal in the world.

Of course, the Venn diagram of those who oppose this deal, but supported Reagan when he was dealing arms to Iran in exchange for hostages just a few years after Tehran invaded US territory and held US embassy workers hostage for 440 days has some serious overlap.

A similar Venn diagram could be done showing the overlap between those who hate this deal but were part of the Bush administration that allowed both North Korea and Iran to advance their nuclear programs - which in North Korea’s case included the ability to detonate rudimentary nuclear weapons.

Much of the complaint is positional - if Obama’s for it, they’re against it.

A better reading on whether the deal makes sense would be the reaction not from Israel, but from Saudi Arabia. They’re in the crosshairs of a nuclear Iran, and if they’re cautiously optimistic or are more reserved in their complaints (if any), then you’ve got your signal that this is a good deal.

I know that Israel’s Netenyahu’s going to complain about the deal - and that’s even without knowing what the contents are. Part of that is positional too - part of Netenyahu’s longstanding critique/worldview of the Middle East is the Iranian bogeyman. If that isn’t there, then Israel has to deal with a different realpolitik and one that Netenyahu doesn’t want to address.

Does it resolve everything? I don’t know - and without a full reading, no one knows.

Can Iran break the deal and go nuclear? Yes - but they were in that position before too.

I guess my position on the deal would be cautious pessimism. I don’t know if the deal will keep Iran from going nuclear, but Iran was long on that path to begin with. It might delay that day, but it will eventually happen. What happens between now and then is up to the parties.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:44:20am

And like that - the full text - all 159 pages

Scribd Document

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:45:34am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:45:41am

re: #289 Romantic Heretic

I don’t know. The ‘I don’t vote because they’re all the same’ crowd is certainly a big problem though.

I wonder how much overlap there is in a Venn Diagram of ‘don’t vote’ and ‘stupid, ignorant voters’.

The danger is in the demographic pattern that splits the active electorate along age lines. There are more of us than there are of them, but they show up.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:46:27am

re: #291 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“A historic deal” is American. “An historic deal” is British. That’s my opinion, anyway. At least it’s not like in French, where you have to remember which “h”s are “silent”—even though they’re all silent.

They’re all silent, but only some of them are assholes.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:47:55am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:57:39am

re: #288 darthstar

I detest, utterly detest with the utmost hatred, the use of the article “an” before the word “history” or “historic”. It is nothing short of the vilest of abominations.

I love the Brits and jolly ole England, but on this matter, they are leading millions astray.

half/

Actually thanks for the explanation, I’ve long wondered about this usage.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 5:58:48am

re: #291 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“A historic deal” is American. “An historic deal” is British. That’s my opinion, anyway. At least it’s not like in French, where you have to remember which “h”s are “silent”—even though they’re all silent.

Don’t get me started about the French.

//

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:04:08am

Butthurt Missouri County To Spend Year Mourning Gay-Murder Of Marriage

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:04:15am

re: #266 darthstar

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:06:20am

re: #299 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Don’t get me started about the French.

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The Irish avoid the problem by inserting the euphonious “fecking”,
e.g. “A fecking historic deal”, “A fecking hard churchpew”, etc.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:08:29am

re: #300 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Butthurt Missouri County To Spend Year Mourning Gay-Murder Of Marriage

Not The Onion or National Report?

Checks.

Apparently not.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:11:32am

re: #300 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Butthurt Missouri County To Spend Year Mourning Gay-Murder Of Marriage

Heh, I was just wondering what Wonkette was up to today. :)

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:19:56am

Oklahoma GOP, citing National Park Service’s policy of “Please Do Not Feed the Animals” in Facebook post making argument against Food Stamp program

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WhatEVs  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:20:22am

re: #232 freetoken

I guess we’ll need lots of popcorn:

A PARTY DIVIDED

Oh man…

Walker simply comes from a different place than Bush, too. While some see Walker’s lack of a college degree as a liability—he left Marquette University to start a career before he graduated—about half of Republican primary voters similarly lack a degree, according to exit polls from 2012. “He is an average American in so many ways,” one RNC member responded. “This gives hope to the middle class and to the downtrodden. … People can relate to this man.”

American’s terrify me sometimes.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:20:45am

re: #304 Timothy Watson

Heh, I was just wondering what Wonkette was up to today. :)

Recently, you’ll see their latest post under “From Our Pals at Wonkette” on Balloon Juice before it will actually appear on their own website. The link at Balloon Juice will take you there, though. It’s a weird phenomenon.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:26:49am

re: #306 WhatEVs

Oh man…

American’s terrify me sometimes.

Also rides a motorcycle. Which is the coolest thing in the world.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:27:23am

re: #305 FormerDirtDart

Oklahoma GOP, citing National Park Service’s policy of “Please Do Not Feed the Animals” in Facebook post making argument against Food Stamp program

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Is this lame shit still going around?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:32:23am

re: #309 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is this lame shit still going around?

And nobody has taken them to task for comparing fellow citizens with animals?

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:32:41am

From initial reports? Translation: Bibi said it’s bad, so it must be a historic mistake.

The truth is out there (but sadly lacking in reporting).

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:36:37am

Donald Trump - idiot.

He states that no one reads the NY Daily News, except that he had previously thanked the Daily News for a flattering story. So, he’s a nobody?

It is sad that the Mets’ Matt Harvey is a Trump fan.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:36:47am

re: #291 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“A historic deal” is American. “An historic deal” is British. That’s my opinion, anyway. At least it’s not like in French, where you have to remember which “h”s are “silent”—even though they’re all silent.

I always thought it was ‘an’ if it precedes a vowel or a letter that has a vowel sound. And ‘a’ if it precedes a hard consonant.

Oh yeah Morning. How about that lame duck President? Paddling around pretty good these days.

And if you hear a RWNJ or crazy GOP pol bitching about the Iran deal, ask them to explain in detail what they would have that is better short of bombing the shit out of Iran and maybe triggering a large regional war or worse.

They probably have the same type of plan as they do for healthcare. Zip.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:38:40am

re: #311 lawhawk

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From initial reports? Translation: Bibi said it’s bad, so it must be a historic mistake.

The truth is out there (but sadly lacking in reporting).

Remember, there are people who want to see Iran develop a nuclear weapon so we have an excuse to plaster them until they are glowing glass.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:40:00am

re: #314 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yes, there are - and some of them are among the numbers who consider Ollie North a hero, and that Reagan was the president all others must be compared to, even though he was cutting deals with the Iranian mullahs for arms sales (by and through Israel no less).

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:41:45am

re: #315 lawhawk

Yes, there are - and some of them are among the numbers who consider Ollie North a hero, and that Reagan was the president all others must be compared to, even though he was cutting deals with the Iranian mullahs for arms sales (by and through Israel no less).

And he was going it less than two years after Iran murdered 241 American servicemen.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:42:33am

re: #312 lawhawk

Donald Trump - idiot.

He states that no one reads the NY Daily News, except that he had previously thanked the Daily News for a flattering story. So, he’s a nobody?

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It is sad that the Mets’ Matt Harvey is a Trump fan.

Pissing off everyone in the media before the primaries is WINNING

DUMBASS.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:43:02am

#313 ObserverArt:
Until recently, it’s been written and said as “An historic” where the h is (mostly) silent. It’s been changing to “A historic”. You’ll see it both ways.

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WhatEVs  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:48:59am

And also…

While some see Walker’s lack of a college degree as a liability—he left Marquette University to start a career before he graduated…

Didn’t he leave college to go into politics? Why yes…

…graduated from Delavan-Darien High School in 1986.

In 1986, Walker worked as a volunteer for Tommy Thompson’s gubernatorial campaign, and in the fall of that year, enrolled at Marquette University.

In 1988, he ran for student government president. (Ed: He lost.)

…discontinued his studies at Marquette in the spring of 1990. He left in good standing with, according to his campaign, a 2.6/4.0 (!!) grade point average but without obtaining a degree.

In 1990, at age 22, Walker ran for Milwaukee’s 7th District seat in the Wisconsin State Assembly.

Walker began his political career in the Wisconsin State Assembly, serving from 1993-2002. After the 2002 resignation of Tom Ament as Executive of Milwaukee County, Walker won the special election to fill the seat, which he held from 2002 to 2010.

Per Walker…

Walker has said he dropped out of college when he received an offer for a full-time job with the American Red Cross; he had worked part-time in college for IBM selling warranties on mainframe computers, which led to the American Red Cross position.

Must be nice to work for maybe a year or two in the private sector. You learn so much as a kid about business. ///

It sounds like he did some good stuff in college politics (rooting out some corruption). It’s a shame he became it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:49:05am

Well I am driving a new leased Ford (2014) and I don’t make 6 figures.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:50:07am

Today is a big day in big science. NASA’s New Horizons is capturing stunning photos and data about Pluto as it makes its closest approach.

And now comes word from CERN that the LHC has found a new particle and way to aggregate particles.

Today, the LHCb experiment at CERN’s Large Hadron Collider has reported the discovery of a class of particles known as pentaquarks. The collaboration has submitted a paper reporting these findings to the journal Physical Review Letters.

“The pentaquark is not just any new particle,” said LHCb spokesperson Guy Wilkinson. “It represents a way to aggregate quarks, namely the fundamental constituents of ordinary protons and neutrons, in a pattern that has never been observed before in over fifty years of experimental searches. Studying its properties may allow us to understand better how ordinary matter, the protons and neutrons from which we’re all made, is constituted.”

Our understanding of the structure of matter was revolutionized in 1964 when American physicist, Murray Gell-Mann, proposed that a category of particles known as baryons, which includes protons and neutrons, are comprised of three fractionally charged objects called quarks, and that another category, mesons, are formed of quark-antiquark pairs. Gell-Mann was awarded the Nobel Prize in physics for this work in 1969. This quark model also allows the existence of other quark composite states, such as pentaquarks composed of four quarks and an antiquark. Until now, however, no conclusive evidence for pentaquarks had been seen.

The US has had the ability to do big science reduced because Congress has cut funding consistently, and shortchanges research, which goes to fundamental questions and scientific exploration.

The GOP would continue to accelerate the decline in funding. That would have negative consequences for the American economy and runs counter to their “Make America Great Again” BS (which is BS on more levels than I care to count).

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:50:33am

re: #318 Belafon

#313 ObserverArt:
Until recently, it’s been written and said as “An historic” where the h is (mostly) silent. It’s been changing to “A historic”. You’ll see it both ways.

And by the rules I’ve been taught (by an old AP editor) A historic would be correct. Even though the ‘h’ is pronounced in a silent manner, it is still not a vowel sound.

But with the ‘net all rules are meant to be broken. Or, something.

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withak  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:50:47am

re: #318 Belafon

#313 ObserverArt:
Until recently, it’s been written and said as “An historic” where the h is (mostly) silent. It’s been changing to “A historic”. You’ll see it both ways.

What’s always bugged me about that is that history always seems to be pronounced with the H intact, but the related word ends up sounding like ‘istoric.

I know I’d go mad expecting consistency from English or English speakers, but dropping the H from historic just sounds funny to my ears, especially from an American English speaker.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:52:05am

re: #311 lawhawk

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From initial reports? Translation: Bibi said it’s bad, so it must be a historic mistake.

The truth is out there (but sadly lacking in reporting).

Bibi also said that us invading Iraq would be a good idea and good for the region. Bibi has shit for a track record on prognostications.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:52:48am

re: #311 lawhawk

Bibi is the Jim Hoft of Israel. Whatever he says, you can pretty much guarantee the complete opposite is the actual truth.

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WhatEVs  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:54:57am

From that same article:

One RNC committee member who plans to vote for Fiorina, calling her “the complete package,” suggested the field isn’t as strong as advertised. “Whether it’s Scott Walker and a college degree, or Jeb Bush and the Bush name, or Christie and Bridgegate, or Rubio and the immigration plan—everybody has something.”

Talk about missing the big (long-term) picture.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:56:16am

re: #324 Eventual Carrion

Bibi also said that us invading Iraq would be a good idea and good for the region. Bibi has shit for a track record on prognostications.

Bibi’s been predicting the “imminent” existence of Iranian nukes since the 1990s. It’s the only way Israel keeps people’s attention off its own nukes, by screaming about nuclear programs in other countries.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:57:09am

Make America great again. By cutting funding for scientific research and universities, and telling the poor “tough shit!”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:57:31am

Crowder is whining that he can’t afford a new car. WELL WORK HARDER AND GET A BETTER JRRB U LAZY MOOCHER!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:57:38am

re: #328 GlutenFreeJesus

Make America great again. By cutting funding for scientific research and universities, and telling the poor “tough shit!”.

and making the rest of us work more unpaid overtime

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:58:45am

re: #329 The Vicious Babushka

Crowder is whining that he can’t afford a new car. WELL WORK HARDER AND GET A BETTER JRRB U LAZY MOOCHER!!!

I’m sure this is Obama’s fault somehow.

/

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:00:25am

re: #329 The Vicious Babushka

Crowder is whining that he can’t afford a new car. WELL WORK HARDER AND GET A BETTER JRRB U LAZY MOOCHER!!!

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Use Uber, after all, it has caused prices to go down so much…

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:01:25am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

and making the rest of us work more unpaid overtime

‘Cause it’s good for our character (well, not really. But it is good for the companies bottom line which is what really matters isn’t it?).

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WhatEVs  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:02:01am

re: #331 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I’m sure this is Obama’s fault somehow.

/

It always is.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:02:08am

lolwhut

I guess he never plans on buying a house?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:03:18am

re: #320 The Vicious Babushka

Well I am driving a new leased Ford (2014) and I don’t make 6 figures.

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Oh, for heck’s sake, you can lease a mid-size vehicle (Ford Flex) for around $500/mo and a compact (Ford Focus) for just over $200/mo. What is Crowder’s point anyway? He can’t be saying that Americans are underpaid because it’s an article of faith with those guys that American workers are lazy and overpaid.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:04:20am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And nobody has taken them to task for comparing fellow citizens with animals?

I found this old meme==>

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:05:24am

re: #336 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Oh, for heck’s sake, you can lease a mid-size vehicle (Ford Flex) for around $500/mo and a compact (Ford Focus) for just over $200/mo. What is Crowder’s point anyway? He can’t be saying that Americans are underpaid because it’s an article of faith with those guys that American workers are lazy and overpaid.

Workers aren’t underpaid, the lamestream media just won’t give him a decent job because they don’t recognize his blinding intellect.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:06:47am

I get the feeling Steven Crowder spends at least 8 hours of his day somewhere he can catch a reflection of himself…like in mirrors, around glass, chrome items, highly polished surfaces. He has to keep tabs on all that awesomeness.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:07:08am

lolwhutx3

So he never uses credit to buy an appliance, a computer, tools, or anything else? Hell, he doesn’t use credit to buy clothes, ever?

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:09:59am

re: #337 The Vicious Babushka

I found this old meme==>

The Vicious Babushka @viciousbabushka
Any questions? Why do Conservatives compare hungry poor children to non-human wild animals? #tcot #UniteBlue
8:54 AM - 16 Mar 2015

Could it have anything to do with conservatives many times raising wild animals instead of educating their children to be caring compassionate humans?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:10:15am

Everything you buy depreciates in value, except for real estate in Manhattan.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:10:47am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:12:38am

Shocker, Steven Crowder is, of course, not a college graduate, so his understanding of finance or economics surely comes from Ayn Rand or some Austrian School horseshit he read online.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:13:24am

re: #340 Timothy Watson

I just saw a report that Fed Ex has ordered 25 Boeing 767 cargo jets. I rather doubt that Fed Ex is paying cash for those planes.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:13:37am

re: #340 Timothy Watson

lolwhutx3

So he never uses credit to buy an appliance, a computer, tools, or anything else? Hell, he doesn’t use credit to buy clothes, ever?

So… people shouldn’t be in debt, but he can’t afford a new car….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:14:43am

re: #346 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So… people shouldn’t be in debt, but he can’t afford a new car….

If regular working people couldn’t afford to buy new cars I wouldn’t have a job.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:15:25am

re: #340 Timothy Watson

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lolwhutx3

So he never uses credit to buy an appliance, a computer, tools, or anything else? Hell, he doesn’t use credit to buy clothes, ever?

And then Steven or one of his family has a major medical disaster and he finds out that no bank will extend him a loan without loan shark interest rates because his credit’s utterly shit, as he didn’t want to take on any debt.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:15:38am

re: #347 The Vicious Babushka

If regular working people couldn’t afford to buy new cars I wouldn’t have a job.

Not even sure what Crowder’s point is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:16:46am

re: #349 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Not even sure what Crowder’s point is.

I think he is saying “never buy a new car unless you have $30,000 laying around”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:16:58am

re: #347 The Vicious Babushka

If regular working people couldn’t afford to buy new cars I wouldn’t have a job.

“People shouldn’t be in debt like America the country is illegally in debt and we should tax spending not income and how come nobody’s buying stuff and economy sucks?”

/

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:17:34am

re: #346 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I want to be debt free as much as the next guy, but debt helps me obtain a habitable abode (a home), pays for some expenses when I don’t have cash on hand - like paying for home improvements, and then spreading those payments over time.

It also can pay for medical expenses when cash isn’t available.

We have decided as a nation that certain kinds of debt are good to have and cultivate - home mortgages for one (we have a deduction on income taxes for it), and businesses can depreciate all kinds of purchases - often taken on credit.

The problem that too many people have is that they don’t maintain a realistic cash-flow and make purchases well beyond what they’re capable of repaying. It includes buying homes beyond their means or vehicles that they don’t need or can’t afford.

But to claim that everyone should pay for a vehicle out of cash is just silly.

Not everyone can do that or afford to do it. Nor should they all do it even if they could.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:18:12am

re: #350 The Vicious Babushka

I think he is saying “never buy a new car unless you have $30,000 laying around”

I absolutely do not think that people should drive a car payment owned by a bank. Yes.

OK, thanks for that thoughtful economic advice, Mr. Comedian.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:19:10am

If a government budget was run just like a family budget:

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:20:30am

re: #349 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Not even sure what Crowder’s point is.

Check on top of his head.

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withak  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:22:44am

I’d love to not have a car payment, but I prefer to drive a reliable, newer vehicle, and 0.9% interest is about as close to free money as I’m likely to get in this economy. (Never could figure out why gas engines qualified for 0% interest, but VW could only give me 0.9% on my diesel… whatever, I’m making up the difference in fuel savings.)

I can see the appeal of paying only cash for cars, but not using credit available to you is just silly, and the rhetoric of “driving a car payment” is doubly so.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:23:43am

re: #340 Timothy Watson

Cars will ALWAYS depreciate in value. It’s never to be treated as a potential investment as real estate.

Tell that to the person who bought a used ‘65 Porsche 911 ten years ago, or the person whose 21-window VW bus is now worth $100K. Cons are just in love with absolutes like “always,” and “never.” I kind of like those words myself. As in, “Conservatives are always wrong and they never tell the truth.” Yeah, that works.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:24:45am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:24:52am

re: #356 withak

I’d love to not have a car payment, but I prefer to drive a reliable, newer vehicle, and 0.9% interest is about as close to free money as I’m likely to get in this economy. (Never could figure out why gas engines qualified for 0% interest, but VW could only give me 0.9% on my diesel… whatever, I’m making up the difference in fuel savings.)

I can see the appeal of paying only cash for cars, but not using credit available to you is just silly, and the rhetoric of “driving a car payment” is doubly so.

Beat me to it, but with interest rates as low as they are, his comments are even stupider.

Is he really saying that he doesn’t have better things that $30,000 could be spent on right now instead of using it to buy a car outright?

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:25:08am

I’ve opened the paper or my web browser to too many stories of people who took “pride” in paying everything in cash getting blindsided by a medical bill or an accident and left in bankruptcy because they had shitty credit if any and forced to beg others for donations.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:25:38am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:27:27am

re: #356 withak

I’d love to not have a car payment, but I prefer to drive a reliable, newer vehicle, and 0.9% interest is about as close to free money as I’m likely to get in this economy. (Never could figure out why gas engines qualified for 0% interest, but VW could only give me 0.9% on my diesel… whatever, I’m making up the difference in fuel savings.)

I can see the appeal of paying only cash for cars, but not using credit available to you is just silly, and the rhetoric of “driving a car payment” is doubly so.

Don’t think it makes much sense to pay cash for a new car. Unless you’ve got a zillion dollars in cash on hand. As you say, car loans are not usually of the high interest variety. And depleting one’s cash on hand just for bragging privileges to say “I paid all the cash for my car, lazy moochers” is just silly. Better to keep the cash for emergencies, if you have it.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:27:49am

re: #360 Targetpractice

I’ve opened the paper or my web browser to too many stories of people who took “pride” in paying everything in cash getting blindsided by a medical bill or an accident and left in bankruptcy because they had shitty credit if any and forced to beg others for donations.

Exactly.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:28:44am

Think Progress uses Bibi’s bomb to explain Iran deal
thinkprogress.org

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:29:30am

re: #361 darthstar

Bernie Sanders on Iran deal: “This is a victory for diplomacy over saber-rattling.” Hillary Clinton hasn’t commented yet.

Clinton is rehearsing her equivocations.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:30:02am

LOL got retweeted by the Sir_Max auto-retweet bot

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:30:47am

re: #313 ObserverArt

I always thought it was ‘an’ if it precedes a vowel or a letter that has a vowel sound. And ‘a’ if it precedes a hard consonant….

My impression is that the British don’t consider an initial “h” a consonant. They try their best to pronounce it where it belongs—don’t want to sound like a Cockney, donchaknow?—but I think it’s dropped out of the running as a real consonant that triggers the “n”. I could be wrnog, of course.

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withak  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:31:39am

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Don’t think it makes much sense to pay cash for a new car. Unless you’ve got a zillion dollars in cash on hand. As you say, car loans are not usually of the high interest variety. And depleting one’s cash on hand just for bragging privileges to say “I paid all the cash for my car, lazy moochers” is just silly. Better to keep the cash for emergencies, if you have it.

Agreed. I’d only plunk down a substantial amount of cash for a vehicle if I would still have a reasonable emergency fund left over in savings. That’s not going to happen any time soon.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:32:47am

LOLWHUT
You don’t even have to be a doctor to do that.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:34:48am

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Don’t think it makes much sense to pay cash for a new car. Unless you’ve got a zillion dollars in cash on hand. As you say, car loans are not usually of the high interest variety. And depleting one’s cash on hand just for bragging privileges to say “I paid all the cash for my car, lazy moochers” is just silly. Better to keep the cash for emergencies, if you have it.

Not only that, Crowder’s also boasting about how he’s got cars that are over a decade old. In other words, he’s boasting that he’s no doubt spending more in maintenance and fuel than he would with a newer vehicle. What’s he going to do when he’s $2,000 short of the cost of that new car and then his Explorer’s transmission explodes?

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:35:56am

re: #365 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Clinton is rehearsing her equivocations.

She was SoS when the conversation started. Her people helped in the early stages. She’s been on board since day 1.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:36:08am

re: #357 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Tell that to the person who bought a used ‘65 Porsche 911 ten years ago, or the person whose 21-window VW bus is now worth $100K. Cons are just in love with absolutes like “always,” and “never.” I kind of like those words myself. As in, “Conservatives are always wrong and they never tell the truth.” Yeah, that works.

Ahhh…you seem to be a German car fanatic…like me!

The 21 window VW bus sounds cool. Got any pictures?

Regarding cars…I bought my 2008 VW Rabbit with 0% APR and nothing down other than what they gave me for my GTi I used for trade-in. Deal took all of 1/2 hour and I was on the road with my bunny.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:36:20am

re: #369 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWHUT
You don’t even have to be a doctor to do that.

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You’ve got it! From his expression in the photo I’d say that the good doctor was soaking his pecker in a bucket of ice water.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:37:52am
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blueraven  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:38:11am

I think Jeffrey Goldberg has a pretty fair article on the idea of a nuke deal, not the specifics.

theatlantic.com

He has many concerns but in the end he knows we must consider the alternatives. He also challenges the opponents to offer their better plans.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:39:01am

LOLWUT?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:39:26am

What a freaking dumbass==>
Sure it’s possible when you have a trust fund!

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:41:34am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

What a freaking dumbass==>

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“Well below means”? So basically exist in a state of poverty just to afford to pay everything in cash? Isn’t that rather the opposite of what we’re told is supposed to be the American Dream?

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:41:54am

re: #370 Targetpractice

What’s he going to do when he’s $2,000 short of the cost of that new car and then his Explorer’s transmission explodes?

Shh. I’ve got the same year Exploder as Crowder. Let’s ixnay on the ansmission-tray. :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:42:04am

re: #378 Targetpractice

“Well below means”? So basically exist in a state of poverty just to afford to pay everything in cash? Isn’t that rather the opposite of what we’re told is supposed to be the American Dream?

FREEDUMB!!!!

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:42:25am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

Not possible to pay cash for cars, live well below means and invest a high % of income?

No one has ever done it. No one.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:43:15am

re: #378 Targetpractice

“Well below means”? So basically exist in a state of poverty just to afford to pay everything in cash? Isn’t that rather the opposite of what we’re told is supposed to be the American Dream?

He means other people should live well below their means, pay cash for everything, and invest lots of money, etc.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:43:21am

re: #376 darthstar

LOLWUT?

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Ezra does remember that Iran offered in 2003 to give the White House all of its demands, from giving up nukes to accepting international monitoring, and Dubya wiped his ass with the proposal while criticizing the Swiss from even passing on the offer?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:43:37am

re: #321 lawhawk

Today is a big day in big science. NASA’s New Horizons is capturing stunning photos and data about Pluto as it makes its closest approach.

And now comes word from CERN that the LHC has found a new particle and way to aggregate particles.

The US has had the ability to do big science reduced because Congress has cut funding consistently, and shortchanges research, which goes to fundamental questions and scientific exploration.

The GOP would continue to accelerate the decline in funding. That would have negative consequences for the American economy and runs counter to their “Make America Great Again” BS (which is BS on more levels than I care to count).

Pentaquarks! Holy crap! “Four quarks and an antiquark”, so…red-green-blue-plus any color and the corresponding anticolor antiquark?

Of course, this could have happened 15 years ago—and here—if they hadn’t canceled the SSC. Idiots.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:43:53am

re: #381 Higgs Boson’s Mate

No one has ever done it. No one.

Sure people have done it, as long as they have big trust funds!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:44:06am

re: #370 Targetpractice

Not only that, Crowder’s also boasting about how he’s got cars that are over a decade old. In other words, he’s boasting that he’s no doubt spending more in maintenance and fuel than he would with a newer vehicle. What’s he going to do when he’s $2,000 short of the cost of that new car and then his Explorer’s transmission explodes?

I have a decade old Subaru that just sucked up about $4,000 in repairs. Timing belt, brake work, and getting a door replaced due to a massive dent. The last in part because letting the dent rust would be stupid with the expectation of using the car for at least another year or two.

But I have non-standard usage since I have a walking commute. Car is used for weekend jaunts and the various driving vacations in the eastern part of the US. From a straight monetary standpoint I’d probably be better off dumping the car entirely and just use ZipCar or something like that given insurance and parking fees. But having the vehicle available and close saves time and the effort it would take dealing with a car service a couple of times a week. In addition to having a car model that I know can handle snow conditions.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:44:17am

re: #372 ObserverArt

Ahhh…you seem to be a German car fanatic…like me!

The 21 window VW bus sounds cool. Got any pictures?

Regarding cars…I bought my 2008 VW Rabbit with 0% APR and nothing down other than what they gave me for my GTi I used for trade-in. Deal took all of 1/2 hour and I was on the road with my bunny.

Here’s a fine specimen.

I remember that ‘American Pickers’ guy getting all excited about a horribly rusted version sitting in a junkyard. The guy who had it refused to sell it.

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blueraven  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:44:36am

re: #376 darthstar

LOLWUT?

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The Iran sanctions regime did start under his admin.

The United States, United Nations, and European Union have levied multiple sanctions on Iran for its nuclear program since the UN’s nuclear watchdog found in September 2005 that Tehran was not compliant (PDF) with its international obligations. The United States spearheaded international efforts to financially isolate Tehran and block its oil exports to raise the cost of Iran’s efforts to develop a potential nuclear-weapons capability and to bring its government to the negotiating table.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:44:42am

The Stupids just keep on coming.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:46:00am

re: #389 The Vicious Babushka

The Stupids just keep on coming.

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“Wealth”? Steven, if you can’t afford to pay cash on a new car and are boasting about driving a car that was new when we were invading Iraq, then you’re not “wealthy.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:46:09am

Then you have ZERO CREDIT dumbass.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:47:08am

re: #376 darthstar

Ezra is way off base, again. Ronald Reagan laid the groundwork for today’s nuclear treaty with Iran when he gave them weapons in return for American hostages.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:47:32am

re: #391 The Vicious Babushka

Then you have ZERO CREDIT dumbass.

But a couple of Chicagoans in dark glasses and fedoras just made him an offer for his little girl.
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:48:05am

re: #386 Feline Fearless Leader

I have a Saturn that’s paid off and just hit 100k miles. I need to keep it for as long as I can, while I manage other bills. Fortunate so far it hasn’t needed major repairs, although a recent brake job was pretty pricey. I’m putting much fewer miles on it for the past year since I started taking the bus to work. Keeping my fingers crossed.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:48:53am

re: #391 The Vicious Babushka

I have stellar credit. Never payed interest on anything in my life. Never bought anything other than cash.

Let me rummage around in my junk box for an award for you.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:49:09am

re: #391 The Vicious Babushka

Then you have ZERO CREDIT dumbass.

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Like I said, Steven’s gonna be totally gobsmacked the first time he tries to apply for a loan and finds out that he’s either denied or is gonna be paying leg-breaker interest rates. “How can this be?! I’ve never incurred any sort of debt! I should be the ideal customer for a bank!!!”

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Lidane  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:51:02am

*facepalm*

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WhatEVs  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:51:36am

re: #382 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

He means other people should live well below their means, pay cash for everything, and invest lots of money, etc.

So…live in virtual poverty and trust Wall Street with your money? Welp, that sounds like a glorious way to live. What could possibly go wrong? Let me ask Madoff what he thinks.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:51:42am

re: #387 makeitstop

Here’s a fine specimen.

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I remember that ‘American Pickers’ guy getting all excited about a horribly rusted version sitting in a junkyard. The guy who had it refused to sell it.

My dad used VW combis as work/family vehicles from 1959 to the late 70s, when his ‘68 bus finally died. We never had a 21-window model, though. The ‘68 was a camper-van, but not the model with the pop-up roof. They were slow to accelerate, but could buzz along at top speed (70 mph with a tail wind) for hours. Heating in winter was touch-and-go. When the ‘68 went to the body shop after a fender bender, Dad got a ‘72 Beetle loaner. It felt like we had moved up to limousine class. Haha!

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:51:48am

So, does Steven have no medical insurance either? I mean, a guy like that must take all sorts of pride in paying his medical and dental bills in cash.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:52:06am

re: #386 Feline Fearless Leader

I have a similar situation - just bought a new car outright. Old car became a sponge for repairs and it was in need of major repairs - electrical system had a short causing the battery to repeatedly die, timing belt needed replacement, and brakes were a mess. Had set aside money (from stock purchases) to buy new car.

Didn’t want loan, even though I was getting offers for 0.9% or 1.9%. Yeah, I know opportunity costs of doing that would suggest this wasn’t the smart take, but I needed to reduce exposure to certain stocks and this was an excuse to do that.

But in order to have credit to buy stuff (or own a credit card), you need to have debt and show ability to repay. It’s basic personal finance. Crowder seems to have failed that abysmally.

I get the need to maintain a solid income stream and minimizing debt, but there is some debt that is considered good - mortgages for one.

Personal debt, like say from medical expenses, is bad, when it exceeds your ability to repay. That’s a big problem for all too many Americans.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:52:32am

WHUT

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:53:04am

His timeline is fucking hilarious

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:53:08am

re: #396 Targetpractice

Like I said, Steven’s gonna be totally gobsmacked the first time he tries to apply for a loan and finds out that he’s either denied or is gonna be paying leg-breaker interest rates. “How can this be?! I’ve never incurred any sort of debt! I should be the ideal customer for a bank!!!”

Do you have references Mr. Stevens? We have no track record of your handling of your precious loans.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:53:19am

re: #387 makeitstop

Cool! I owned one of the rarest VW buses: a 1957 seven door panel bus. Had double doors on both sides. I put every bit of my knowledge and skill into that car, even going so far as to machine trick parts for it. A few months after she was finished a friend named her Sugar Magnolia because she could dance a Cajun rhythm, just like a Willys in four wheel drive.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:53:43am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:53:53am

re: #402 The Vicious Babushka

Take a $32K expense (average car cost). Even conservatively invested, that’s $64K at the end of 10 years.

I thought he wanted us to pay straight up cash for the car.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:54:16am

Does he pay rent/mortgage or is he homeless?

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:55:44am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

Does he pay rent/mortgage or is he homeless?

Considering he says “well below means,” he might be paying rent on a rat-infested apartment on the bad side of town. After all, wouldn’t want to incur debt with a mortgage payment.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:56:02am

re: #402 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

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That’s all the more reason to buy the car on credit and invest the money in the market. Not to pay in cash. ID-10T error on his part.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:56:17am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

Does he pay rent/mortgage or is he homeless?

Lives debt free, in the car he paid cash for

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:56:39am

re: #400 Targetpractice

So, does Steven have no medical insurance either? I mean, a guy like that must take all sorts of pride in paying his medical and dental bills in cash.

Speaking of medical insurance, I go to the doctor yesterday to go over my lab work I had done a few weeks ago and they ask for my insurance card. I said it hasn’t changed. They say, “Well Blue Cross terminated your coverage on 12/31/14” So due to some processing error, my wife and I have been uninsured for the last seven months. And we sent in the forms last fall saying we didn’t want to make any changes to our plan.

So we get to take care of that today.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:56:40am

re: #409 Targetpractice

Considering he says “well below means,” he might be paying rent on a rat-infested apartment on the bad side of town. After all, wouldn’t want to incur debt with a mortgage payment.

Or he could be living in parents’ basement.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:56:55am

Since we’re on the subject of cars, one of my former students (2009 grad) took me to dinner in her 2014 BMW 5 series. She saved money for the DP and financed the rest — 430,000 RMB or about $70K total cost. That is one sweet car!

Her family owns several clothing shops here, selling the Lilanz menswear line from Taiwan. Her dad is retired from the post office, but her mom is still active with the shops.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:58:06am

re: #410 lawhawk

That’s all the more reason to buy the car on credit and invest the money in the market. Not to pay in cash. ID-10T error on his part.

All the worse because he actually states that he can get a 10% rate of return on his money. Math, how does it work?

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:58:08am

re: #402 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

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And he’s getting over a 7% average annual return for 10 years where?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:59:04am

re: #416 Timothy Watson

And he’s getting over a 7% average annual return for 10 years where?

Really. i want to know, too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 7:59:14am

re: #416 Timothy Watson

And he’s getting over a 7% average annual return for 10 years where?

LOL ask him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:00:08am
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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:01:08am

I’m puzzling over what sort of car he’s looking at for $32,000 and why, if he’s that insistent on paying cash, he can’t just settle for a cheaper car.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:01:34am

re: #406 The Vicious Babushka

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Uh, 10% return compounded over 10 years gives you a return of 2.593 of the base value (1.1^10 x invested value, ignoring effects of inflation).

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:01:54am

re: #387 makeitstop

Here’s a fine specimen.

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I remember that ‘American Pickers’ guy getting all excited about a horribly rusted version sitting in a junkyard. The guy who had it refused to sell it.

Yeah!

I’m familiar with them as an uncle of mine had a 21 window back in the very early 60s and they’d pack their rather large family in it and go all over Ohio. It was a very unique time to own a foreign vehicle, but my uncle could have cared less what others thought about anything.

A good friend of mine had a panel version with only side door windows, front split window with the cool metal visor and the rear door windows. We made a rack on it to hold out 14’ fishing boat which looked real cool upside down on top and running the full length of the van…like it was designed to be that way. I think it was a ‘63 and he had a rebuilt engine in it and ran it almost the entire 80s before selling it.

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Lidane  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:02:51am

Heh:

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:06:10am

re: #402 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

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Crowder seems to be out to prove he is a complete dumb ass. And he is doing a great job of it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:06:55am

re: #422 ObserverArt

Yeah!

I’m familiar with them as an uncle of mine had a 21 window back in the very early 60s and they’d pack their rather large family in it and go all over Ohio. It was a very unique time to own a foreign vehicle, but my uncle could have cared less what others thought about anything.

A good friend of mine had a panel version with only side door windows, front split window with the cool metal visor and the rear door windows. We made a rack on it to hold out 14’ fishing boat which looked real cool upside down on top and running the full length of the van…like it was designed to be that way. I think it was a ‘63 and he had a rebuilt engine in it and ran it almost the entire 80s before selling it.

Combis were still being made in Mexico or Brazil until the ’90s, IIRC. But they ran water-cooled engines, not the classic flat-4 aircooled units.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:08:36am

Drats, numbskull doesn’t seem incline to answer my tweets.

Oh, well.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:11:49am

I am running iTunes 12.2 and the damn thing keeps crashing when all I’m doing is playing music. Anyone else having problems?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:13:50am

I’m getting Zedushka an American Express prepaid card for our anniversary. Isn’t that romantic?

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blueraven  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:14:05am

Tom Nichols might just have a freaking coronary before today is over.

He should take a health break.

twitter.com

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:14:20am

Great Craigslist ad:
Mercedes Benz BINZ wagon ponton 1959 RARE parts car

Yes, this is an original BINZ WAGON. Hammered goat shit it is.

We all know you are going to harvest the parts to transplant on a decent 4 door of the same vintage or year.

I’ve contacted BINZ with no results on a build sheet or data spec sheet relate to this fin and ID tag.

So transplanting it to a donor would be as the coach builder did back in the day.

This is located in crawfordville, Florida. You drag it out, and haul it away.
Or…you can pay the folks at the yard $350 extra to pull it out and cut whatever parts you want. Why? Because there are fuken snakes, spiders, thorns, and Ebola carrying rats down there that sh!t tetanus.

No more pictures. The motor is there, the hood, doors, and a pile of BS some meth heads started to strip for metal. 4 cents a pound…now that’s a crack driven midnight run.

No title. If you want one, it’ll be $300 extra.

Will I ship? Yeah, but it won’t be cheap.

You have to really want this pos.

So, quit dreaming! This nightmare can be your reality.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:15:35am

BBC article from 2010 about the 60th anniversary of the VW camper. Still trying to find the more recent retrospective.

news.bbc.co.uk

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:15:55am

So he thinks people should be homeless. ASSHOLE.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:16:02am

re: #430 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Great Craigslist ad:
Mercedes Benz BINZ wagon ponton 1959 RARE parts car

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I think that’s the car that Al Bundy is only a few car payments away from owning free and clear.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:16:30am

re: #432 The Vicious Babushka

So he thinks people should be homeless. ASSHOLE.

Insert eye roll here.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:17:18am

Jesus

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:18:19am

re: #435 The Vicious Babushka

Jesus

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“Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?”

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:19:07am

re: #435 The Vicious Babushka

I thought that you were supposed to call your doctor if your third-degree butthurt lasted longer than four hours.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:19:56am

re: #429 blueraven

Tom Nichols might just have a freaking coronary before today is over.

He should take a health break.

twitter.com

It’s terrifying that that guy is a professor at the Naval War College.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:20:05am

All right, he is MUCH MOAR STUPID than Ben Shapiro.

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:21:05am

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Don’t think it makes much sense to pay cash for a new car. Unless you’ve got a zillion dollars in cash on hand. As you say, car loans are not usually of the high interest variety. And depleting one’s cash on hand just for bragging privileges to say “I paid all the cash for my car, lazy moochers” is just silly. Better to keep the cash for emergencies, if you have it.

We pay cash for our cars. We tend to keep them for a long time and early on got in the habit of after they were paid off, putting away what would have been spending on the payment in the bank. By the time we needed a new one, voila, the money was there. Doesn’t work for everyone, but I like having it bought and done with.
That said, there are worse kinds of debt than car loans.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:21:18am
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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:22:12am

re: #432 The Vicious Babushka

So he thinks people should be homeless. ASSHOLE.

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Since many bankruptcies arise from large medical bills, Crowder should be supportive of mandatory health insurance AKA Obamacare. Better to prevent bankruptcy than allow it to happen.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:23:12am

re: #441 The Vicious Babushka

Except that the banks played games with what people could afford; people didn’t understand how the ARMs worked, and the banks gamed the system to their advantage, so when the market crashed, the banks escaped scot free, while people were stuck being underwater on homes that weren’t worth nearly what was owed.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:23:47am

re: #439 The Vicious Babushka

All right, he is MUCH MOAR STUPID than Ben Shapiro.

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They are shutting Detroit down because people are keeping their 2003 Ford Exploders, because they aren’t getting the promised trickle down that would enable them to buy a new car.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:25:09am

BBC article about the last VW combi/transporter/microbus/Type 2 built anywhere. It was in Brazil, as I remembered.
bbc.com

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:25:47am

re: #416 Timothy Watson

And he’s getting over a 7% average annual return for 10 years where?

Bernie Madoff?
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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:25:52am

re: #443 lawhawk

Except that the banks played games with what people could afford; people didn’t understand how the ARMs worked, and the banks gamed the system to their advantage, so when the market crashed, the banks escaped scot free, while people were stuck being underwater on homes that weren’t worth nearly what was owed.

Banks also lied to investors of their mortgage securities about the quality of the borrowers and the loans.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:26:20am

re: #443 lawhawk

Except that the banks played games with what people could afford; people didn’t understand how the ARMs worked, and the banks gamed the system to their advantage, so when the market crashed, the banks escaped scot free, while people were stuck being underwater on homes that weren’t worth nearly what was owed.

And then asshats like Crowder blame poors for the housing collapse

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:26:54am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:27:36am

LOL I anticipated this Tweet and he just made it==>

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:28:35am

re: #443 lawhawk

Except that the banks played games with what people could afford; people didn’t understand how the ARMs worked, and the banks gamed the system to their advantage, so when the market crashed, the banks escaped scot free, while people were stuck being underwater on homes that weren’t worth nearly what was owed.

Yup, and I was one of them. Scrowder can take a long walk off a short pier, as far as I’m concerned.

Also, Ameriquest/Deutsche Bank can go to hell. My life’s biggest mistake was trusting those shysters in a refi deal.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:29:28am

Of course it would be great for each American if he paid only cash, salted away lots of savings, and never borrowed money to buy anything. Provided, of course, that everyone else keeps borrowing money to buy things. Otherwise there will be massive unemployment. Anyone remember the winter of 2008-2009? Nobody borrowing? Everyone paying only cash and buying only what they could afford?

The problem with Conservatives is that they make economic theory out of Puritan moralism - but only for the common man.

I once had a Conservative tell me that if everyone only bought what they could afford, paid cash, and saved their money, the economy would BOOM! I asked him how. He didn’t really have an answer. I told him that Japan had done exactly that, and their economy had been mired for a decade in zero growth and high unemployment.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:30:07am

re: #450 The Vicious Babushka

LOL I anticipated this Tweet and he just made it==>

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Yes, it’s not the bank that totally gamed the system who are at fault, it’s the guy who thought he might get a piece of that pie by finally getting a home on what he figured was an affordable mortgage.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:30:24am

re: #452 Blind Frog Belly White

Of course it would be great for each American if he paid only cash, salted away lots of savings, and never borrowed money to buy anything. Provided, of course, that everyone else keeps borrowing money to buy things. Otherwise there will be massive unemployment. Anyone remember the winter of 2008-2009? Nobody borrowing? Everyone paying only cash and buying only what they could afford?

The problem with Conservatives is that they make economic theory out of Puritan moralism - but only for the common man.

I once had a Conservative tell me that if everyone only bought what they could afford, paid cash, and saved their money, the economy would BOOM! I asked him how. He didn’t really have an answer. I told him that Japan had done exactly that, and their economy had been mired for a decade in zero growth and high unemployment.

That’s called “Austerity” Ask the Greeks how well it worked for them.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:31:59am

re: #425 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Combis were still being made in Mexico or Brazil until the ’90s, IIRC. But they ran water-cooled engines, not the classic flat-4 aircooled units.

I had a ‘73 Campmobile. The Bus got the Type IV (suitcase) engine from the 411/412 in ‘72. It was a lot more robust, and didn’t have to be geared down 3:2 with offset gears, but it wasn’t much more powerful. That bus weighed a solid 1,000 pounds more than my 412 wagon, but had 20 less horsepower—carburetors, you know.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:32:59am

re: #450 The Vicious Babushka

Exactly. Why is it fair for a bank to give a loan, then get screwed by over-spenders? People are warped.

So banks must be held harmless in all circumstances?

This guy.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:33:20am

re: #443 lawhawk

Except that the banks played games with what people could afford; people didn’t understand how the ARMs worked, and the banks gamed the system to their advantage, so when the market crashed, the banks escaped scot free, while people were stuck being underwater on homes that weren’t worth nearly what was owed.

And I always interject, the realtors & mortgage brokers who were complicit & made huge commissions. They failed their clients spectacularly.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:34:24am

re: #457 #FergusonFireside

And I always interject, the realtors & mortgage brokers who were complicit & made huge commissions. They failed their clients spectacularly.

The words “due diligence” became a sick joke.

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:34:44am

re: #452 Blind Frog Belly White

Ummm, paying things off and buying what they can afford tends to be what older people do. That’s why economists (and conservatives) worry about aging populations-they buy less.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:35:03am

re: #454 The Vicious Babushka

That’s called “Austerity” Ask the Greeks how well it worked for them.

Actually, in this case it’s called the Paradox of Thrift, because it’s done by the individual rather than government, but the overall effect is exactly the same - reduced demand. You can’t grow an economy on reduced demand.

As I say, Conservatives tend to believe that what is a good practice for individuals MUST BE the best practice for a population.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:36:28am
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calochortus  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:36:36am

re: #460 Blind Frog Belly White

Actually, in this case it’s called the Paradox of Thrift, because it’s done by the individual rather than government, but the overall effect is exactly the same - reduced demand. You can’t grow an economy on reduced demand.

As I say, Conservatives tend to believe that what is a good practice for individuals MUST BE the best practice for a population.

Yup, we need to run government just exactly like our household budget. What could possibly go wrong with that????

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:37:49am

re: #394 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I have a Saturn that’s paid off and just hit 100k miles. I need to keep it for as long as I can, while I manage other bills. Fortunate so far it hasn’t needed major repairs, although a recent brake job was pretty pricey. I’m putting much fewer miles on it for the past year since I started taking the bus to work. Keeping my fingers crossed.

I put 110K miles on the Saturn I had previous to the Subaru. Tendency in my family is to buy new and then drive the car for over a decade. I think my brother managed 200+k miles on a VW Jetta.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:38:16am

re: #450 The Vicious Babushka

LOL I anticipated this Tweet and he just made it==>

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But real estate is an investment and the value never goes down (according to his earlier tweets), so actually, banks came out ahead since they got a portion of the mortgage and end up with real estate that’s more valuable than it was.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:38:59am

re: #462 calochortus

Yup, we need to run government just exactly like our household budget. What could possibly go wrong with that????

Or we could run our household budget like a business - borrow lots of money if the rates are low, walk away from mortgages and leases if they don’t make business sense, hire lots of lawyers to prevent lienholders and landlords from coming after you.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:39:46am

re: #463 Feline Fearless Leader

I put 110K miles on the Saturn I had previous to the Subaru. Tendency in my family is to buy new and then drive the car for over a decade. I think my brother managed 200+k miles on a VW Jetta.

256,000 miles on a ‘99 Miata so far. I think the lug bolts are the only remaining original parts.

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Mattand  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:40:16am

re: #448 The Vicious Babushka

And then asshats like Crowder blame poors for the housing collapse

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Ugh, my neighbor is like the executive in that cartoon. Every time the subject of the abandoned houses in our neighborhood comes up, she always complains about “people” buying houses they knew they couldn’t afford.

Her husband once used a fairly vile racial slur to describe an African-American door-to-door salesman, so I’ll leave you to ponder what she meant by “people”.

Every time I point out that the banks were under no obligation to give a loan to someone who they probably knew couldn’t afford it? Literally ignores what I said and keeps on going with her original beef.

This is why I have such a hard time dealing with conservatives anymore. They are just so willing to go right to poor bashing while ignoring predatory behavior from banks and other corporations.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:41:04am

Ben sees Steven Derping and wants his Derp Medal back

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:41:16am

re: #463 Feline Fearless Leader

I put 110K miles on the Saturn I had previous to the Subaru. Tendency in my family is to buy new and then drive the car for over a decade. I think my brother managed 200+k miles on a VW Jetta.

That’s us. Most of our new cars have lasted us >10 years. The Subaru I traded when I bought the Challenger was 12 years old. Mrs. FBW’s Sienna is a 2001. Still runs like… well, runs like a 14 year old Toyota with low miles - a little rattly, but exceptionally reliably.

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Mattand  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:42:44am

re: #394 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I have a Saturn that’s paid off and just hit 100k miles. I need to keep it for as long as I can, while I manage other bills. Fortunate so far it hasn’t needed major repairs, although a recent brake job was pretty pricey. I’m putting much fewer miles on it for the past year since I started taking the bus to work. Keeping my fingers crossed.

re: #463 Feline Fearless Leader

I put 110K miles on the Saturn I had previous to the Subaru. Tendency in my family is to buy new and then drive the car for over a decade. I think my brother managed 200+k miles on a VW Jetta.

re: #466 Higgs Boson’s Mate

256,000 miles on a ‘99 Miata so far. I think the lug bolts are the only remaining original parts.

18 year old Honda with 119K here. The air died and it’s rattling a little bit, but still runs. My car repair bills are still much cheaper than new monthly payments and the higher insurance.

Added bonus: it’s a stick. I get 32 MPG local.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:43:38am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

Ben sees Steven Derping and wants his Derp Medal back

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Just remember back 8 years Ben. There is your answer.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:43:42am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

Ben sees Steven Derping and wants his Derp Medal back

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He thinks this president is worse than the last one, who fucked over not just the US but numerous allies by getting us involved in a war that did nothing but set the stage for the following decade of rising terrorism?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:46:19am

Meanwhile the Twitchy gang is getting all worked up over something something PLANNED PARENTHOOD!!!!!!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:48:11am

re: #427 Timothy Watson

I am running iTunes 12.2 and the damn thing keeps crashing when all I’m doing is playing music. Anyone else having problems?

I am refusing to update my iTunes version since it already doesn’t play nice with my browser (Chrome) or other apps on my old laptop. Any of them grabs so much memory/CPU that the others crash (or iTunes will minimally start stuttering.)

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:48:25am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

Ben sees Steven Derping and wants his Derp Medal back

We were bombed, invaded, destroyed. Our market economy eviscerated. Record unemployment. Hard to imagine a more concise, thoughtful piece of analysis then that provided by Ben, although somehow despite all the death and destruction and market mayhem has managed to keep talking.

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scottslemmons  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:49:21am

re: #452 Blind Frog Belly White

The problem with Conservatives is that they make economic theory out of Puritan moralism - but only for the common man.

For some people, life without cruelty just isn’t worth living.

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A Cranky One  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:49:45am

When the economy is based on consumer spending, the consumers need to have money to spend to keep the economy moving. When the majority of people don’t have any disposable income, the economy stagnates and limps along.

The Republicans keep pushing voodoo economics where the rich will “create jerbs” if their taxes are kept low. But without demand for products, what jobs will be created? Why would the rich invest in businesses when there is no return on investment? If no one can afford to purchase the products there is no economic incentive to make the products.

Thus the Republican lie is exposed. Without a healthy middle class with some disposable income, there is no economic growth, period. If income inequality continues to increase at its current pace, soon there will be no one to buy any products other than the most basic of necessities. And the economy will collapse.

So obviously the big problem with the country is the poor who bought things they can’t afford. /////////////

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:50:21am

The source of the PNALLED PARENTHOOD BABBY KILLERZ!!!!! is Lifenews so it’s probably totes bullshit.

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withak  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:50:34am

iTunes on Windows is one of the most unstable, irritating, and confusing software packages I’ve ever used.

iTunes on Mac is at least stable, but the usability issues remain.

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blueraven  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:50:54am

re: #466 Higgs Boson’s Mate

256,000 miles on a ‘99 Miata so far. I think the lug bolts are the only remaining original parts.

Mr blue still drives his ‘78 Datsun 280Z about once a week to work…80 mile round trip.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:51:40am

re: #440 calochortus

We pay cash for our cars. We tend to keep them for a long time and early on got in the habit of after they were paid off, putting away what would have been spending on the payment in the bank. By the time we needed a new one, voila, the money was there. Doesn’t work for everyone, but I like having it bought and done with.
That said, there are worse kinds of debt than car loans.

I did that with my Saturn. For the Subaru the dealership offered a 1% interest deal after a down payment of 50% of the cost. Since my bank accounts were pulling 2.5% interest at the time I took the financing deal and paid off the balance over the next two years. And have been putting aside the equivalent of a car payment for the past 6-7 years as savings for the next car. (Which also supplied the emergency nest egg I could hit for the recent repairs.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:51:55am

re: #375 blueraven

Now would be a good time for reflexive opponents of any deal to start laying out their plans to stop Iran from going nuclear.

John McCain has already expressed it in musical form…

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:53:37am

re: #477 A Cranky One

Well, I do have a nephew* who believes that rich business owners will hire people to make more stuff even if no one is buying it because when people see all this stuff that they want, they will then go out and get more jobs (or work longer hours) to earn more money so they can buy the stuff.
*He’s old enough to know better, too.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:55:10am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:55:41am

Oh, fuck, they figured us out!!! Abort mission, I repeat, ABORT MISSION!

Florida Republican: Donald Trump is a Democratic plot to make GOP look stupid

A Florida lawmaker suggested that Donald Trump’s bombastic presidential campaign may be a Democratic plot to make the Republican Party look bad.

Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-Miami) posted a tweet last week in Spanish that echoed speculative comments he made to popular radio host Ahora Oscar Haza, reported the Miami Herald.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:55:48am

re: #480 blueraven

Mr blue still drives his ‘78 Datsun 280Z about once a week to work…80 mile round trip.

Lamentably, the Miata may be going. It’s becoming more and more difficult for my aged self to get into and out of the thing - especially with the top up.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:56:08am

re: #485 Dr. Matt

Oh, fuck, they figured us out!!! Abort mission, I repeat, ABORT MISSION!

Florida Republican: Donald Trump is a Democratic plot to make GOP look stupid

Didn’t need The Donald to accomplish that.

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Mattand  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:57:51am

re: #483 calochortus

Well, I do have a nephew* who believes that rich business owners will hire people to make more stuff even if no one is buying it because when people see all this stuff that they want, they will then go out and get more jobs (or work longer hours) to earn more money so they can buy the stuff.
*He’s old enough to know better, too.

I’d like to think that most economists would tell you that there’s no such thing as a greed-based economy.

I’d like to think that. I’m probably wrong.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:58:26am

re: #485 Dr. Matt

This was my advice to my local George Soros meeting. But it’s paid dividends so far.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2015 • 8:58:35am

re: #463 Feline Fearless Leader

I put 110K miles on the Saturn I had previous to the Subaru. Tendency in my family is to buy new and then drive the car for over a decade. I think my brother managed 200+k miles on a VW Jetta.

That’s what I do.

I had a ‘92 Golf (modified after paid off) and kept it until 2007 as my weekend drive fun car. It was still clean and in great shape when I sold it to a guy that really wanted it. It had 189,000 miles on it.

The ‘99 GTi I drove until it was time to do a ton of work on it. It was a great car. Only thing I ever had to fix was a bad cat converter (they had issues on the Mark 4 early cats) and a crank position sensor. 1 brake job and that was it. It had 181,000 miles on it and was clean enough and in decent shape they gave me $2700 trade for the ‘08 Rabbit I have.

I don’t drive as much as I used to so the ‘08 only has 72,000 miles on it. It looks brand new and I suspect I will be keeping it for a long time.

You know what else is interesting. If you read Consumer Reports VWs are the last car to buy. I’ve had amazing luck with them and I love them because they really are a fun car to drive and there are always tons of fun mods you can buy and make them into great little sports cars. I also do all the regular oil changes and other upkeep.

I’ve learned not to trust Consumer Reports on cars. I’ve also had some car people explain to me why the Japanese cars get all those rave reviews. The owner may never have noticed that slight starting problem or that little wisp of smoke coming out when you started was taken care of with an entire new head at your last service!

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blueraven  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:01:31am

re: #486 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Lamentably, the Miata may be going. It’s becoming more and more difficult for my aged self to get into and out of the thing - especially with the top up.

Ha, I refused to drive the Z for years as the inside driver door handle was missing. There was a vice grip tool in that space.

He did finally fix that, but I have to admit that I do not enjoy driving it as much as I did 20 years ago.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:01:33am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

Ben sees Steven Derping and wants his Derp Medal back

Ben Shapiro @benshapiro

It is difficult to imagine a president who could have been more damaging to the country and world than Barack Obama.

11:38 AM - 14 Jul 2015

Oh my God! We were all supposed to die the last 6 1/2 years!!!!!

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:01:43am

Trump being Trump.

Scribd Document

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:02:11am

re: #485 Dr. Matt

Oh, fuck, they figured us out!!! Abort mission, I repeat, ABORT MISSION!

Speaking of Trump:
Forbes: Trump Exaggerating His Net Worth (By 100%) In Presidential Bid

Campaign exaggerations are as much a part of politics as kissing babies. In announcing his bid for the Republican presidential nomination this morning, Donald Trump started with what Forbes believes is a whopper. He claimed his net worth was nearly $9 billion. We figure it’s closer to $4 billion — $4.1 billion to be exact.

This discrepancy is noteworthy, since Trump’s financial success - he put his fortune at exactly $8,737,540,000 — is core to his candidacy. “I’m proud of my net worth. I’ve done an amazing job,” said Trump at his circus-like announcement, before referencing his autobiography. “We need a leader that wrote ‘The Art of the Deal.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:02:14am

re: #488 Mattand

I’d like to think that most economists would tell you that there’s no such thing as a greed-based economy.

I’d like to think that. I’m probably wrong.

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:02:46am

re: #490 ObserverArt

My husband apparently owned the one mechanically sound 1990 Jetta in the entire universe. It finally got to the point of unreliability after 20 years. He was sad. But he does love the gas mileage on the Prius we replaced it with.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:03:39am

re: #494 FormerDirtDart

It’s no surprise that politicians lie. But Trump takes it to a whole new level.

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:03:58am

Anyhoo, I need to go do stuff.
BBL

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:04:02am

re: #432 The Vicious Babushka

So he thinks people should be homeless. ASSHOLE.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:06:15am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

Ben sees Steven Derping and wants his Derp Medal back

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b_sharp  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:07:45am

re: #488 Mattand

I’d like to think that most economists would tell you that there’s no such thing as a greed-based economy.

I’d like to think that. I’m probably wrong.

Supply based economy.

‘Build it, they will buy.’

It works but only in unusual circumstances like the iPhone. For some reason that unusual circumstance has been extrapolated to everything. It doesn’t strike them that there is a mix of innovative high demand items that will drive purchases and a much larger proportion of general stuff that will not drive purchases but is driven instead by demand.

The unique stuff stands out, but the mundane stuff drives economies.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:08:33am
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:09:01am
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A Cranky One  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:09:51am

re: #483 calochortus

Well, I do have a nephew* who believes that rich business owners will hire people to make more stuff even if no one is buying it because when people see all this stuff that they want, they will then go out and get more jobs (or work longer hours) to earn more money so they can buy the stuff.
*He’s old enough to know better, too.

That’s the truly scary part. People actually believe the nonsense.

I have a cousin who worked as a vice president for a number of large corporations, making ridiculous money. Had to listen to this type of nonsense from him as well. Funny part was that his specialty was slashing the workforce to reduce costs. He’s move from one company to the next, leading layoffs at each new company.

Funny part? He now finds himself unemployable, because companies won’t hire him due to his reputation; employees view his hiring as a prelude to layoffs and morale tumbles. So his reputation has now made him poison to many companies.

I must confess that hearing him bitch and moan about his current status makes me chuckle. Poor baby.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:11:05am

So facebook kindly notified me of a photo I posted 3 years ago. So I did a little before and after side by side with it to show my weight loss since I pretty much looked the same up until January:

Image: 11156162_10152949495421560_3454306495122297432_n.jpg

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:12:11am

re: #470 Mattand

18 year old Honda with 119K here. The air died and it’s rattling a little bit, but still runs. My car repair bills are still much cheaper than new monthly payments and the higher insurance.

Added bonus: it’s a stick. I get 32 MPG local.

In the mid-80s, I bought a ‘64 Volvo 122 that had three 100K badges on the grille. I put another 30K on it before I sold it for more than I paid.

What a great car. The only problem I ever had with it was the motor oil tended to turn to syrup in Winter, so I had to get a heated dipstick so it would start in the morning. But talk about easy maintenance - so easy to work on that engine. It looked like this - great car.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:12:18am
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b_sharp  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:12:33am

re: #505 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So facebook kindly notified me of a photo I posted 3 years ago. So I did a little before and after side by side with it to show my weight loss since I pretty much looked the same up until January:

Image: 11156162_10152949495421560_3454306495122297432_n.jpg

Awesome.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:13:07am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:14:05am

re: #505 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yellowtail = Sore arms… Well done, Sir, Well done. And congrats on the weight lose.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:14:42am

OMG this freaking stupidity==>
Debunked by Snopes of course.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:18:19am
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scottslemmons  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:19:04am

re: #511 The Vicious Babushka

That’s a Poe, isn’t it? Everyone uses the same gold curtains, and everyone knows Bush I was in office when the Berlin Wall fell down. I’m not sure I can believe that so much silliness hasn’t been posted as satire.

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A Cranky One  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:20:44am

re: #512 Dave In Austin

Didn’t the Donald just claim that all of his golf clubs are highly successful in a letter to the LPGA?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:22:30am

re: #513 scottslemmons

That’s a Poe, isn’t it? Everyone uses the same gold curtains, and everyone knows Bush I was in office when the Berlin Wall fell down. I’m not sure I can believe that so much silliness hasn’t been posted as satire.

They only tore it down because Reagan told them to. Everything good that has happened since 1980 has happened because of him and everything bad has been the fault of Obama.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:24:48am

re: #514 A Cranky One

Didn’t the Donald just claim that all of his golf clubs are highly successful in a letter to the LPGA?

Absolutely!!/// (fears lawsuit by the Donald)…..
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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:26:03am

re: #514 A Cranky One

Didn’t the Donald just claim that all of his golf clubs are highly successful in a letter to the LPGA?

Except the ones his company manages and go bankrupt. That’s the fault of everyone else, not him.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:26:14am

So did Gov. Walker ditch his logo that copies America’s Best Glasses? Or is he playing dumb?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:26:49am

re: #510 Dave In Austin

Honestly my arms were not nearly as sore as my back was. But even that was worth it because Yellowtail = delicious. :)

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:26:50am

re: #518 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So did Gov. Walker ditch his logo that copies America’s Best Glasses? Or is he playing dumb?

Walker doesn’t have to “play dumb”, if you know what I mean.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:27:48am

re: #514 A Cranky One

Didn’t the Donald just claim that all of his golf clubs are highly successful in a letter to the LPGA?

All public statements from Trump, especially those concerning the status of his business enterprises, should be taken with a grain of salt

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scottslemmons  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:28:12am

re: #513 scottslemmons

Okay, I looked at her Twitter feed, and I’m willing to declare her Poe game very strong. :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:29:04am

re: #522 scottslemmons

Okay, I looked at her Twitter feed, and I’m willing to declare her Poe game very strong. :)

You know how you can tell the parody accounts on #tcot? They are the ones who make the most sense.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:29:04am

re: #495 The Vicious Babushka

Well first of all, you tell me. Is there some society around the world that doesn’t run on greed?

Isn’t Greed one of the 7 deadly sins? Wouldn’t Greed be bad then, for a Christian or JudeoChristian nation?

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:29:29am

re: #511 The Vicious Babushka

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:30:07am

re: #525 Ace-o-aces

They were a good nation then, even though they’d only destroyed our embassy and held Americans captive for a year.

//

527
Lidane  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:30:33am
528
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:30:53am

re: #524 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Isn’t Greed one of the 7 deadly sins? Wouldn’t Greed be bad then, for a Christian or JudeoChristian nation?

/

It’s a Cardinal Virtue in the Church of Rand

529
Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:31:42am

The BEAST’s Ian Murphy calls Walker, posing as archconservative moneybags David Koch, and they casually discuss crushing all public unions.

…

530
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:31:57am

re: #511 The Vicious Babushka

OMG this freaking stupidity==>
Debunked by Snopes of course.

Was Reagan the last Republican president?

/

531
Ace-o-aces  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:32:48am
532
Franklin  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:34:24am

Can’t tell if Poe, or just fucking stupid (and racist)…

533
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:34:29am

re: #495 The Vicious Babushka

Well first of all, you tell me. Is there some society around the world that doesn’t run on greed?

Greed is a powerful force, it can drive an economy, but it must be contained. That’s why we have internal combustion engines and do not just go setting everything on fire. That’s why we build dams and canals and don’t just go flooding the landscape.

That level of cynicism and ignorance is inexcusable.

534
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:35:12am

Can’t tell if Poe or completely batshit insane==>

535
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:36:48am

OK this made me LOL==>

536
Black d20  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:37:00am

re: #534 The Vicious Babushka

Sovvies like that tend to not be Poes — practically all of them are full-on with the whole admiralty law/legal strawman nonsense. Notice it’s spelled ‘berth’?

Edit: Holy shit I just looked through his YT account. This is way deeper and crazier than just typical Sovereign Citizen shit.

537
FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:37:44am

re: #531 Ace-o-aces

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New Horizons’ Pluto Flyby
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:38:04am

re: #536 Black d20

Sovvies like that tend to not be Poes — practically all of them are full-on with the whole admiralty law/legal strawman nonsense. Notice it’s spelled ‘berth’?

What is that symbol in your avatar?

539
A Cranky One  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:38:28am

re: #521 FormerDirtDart

All public statements from Trump, especially those concerning the status of his business enterprises, should be taken with a grain of salt

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As well as his claims about his personal wealth. Which is why I don’t believe for a minute that he’ll actually file the required financial disclosure forms to run for President. He bragged about his personal wealth during his announcement; filing paperwork that tells his true wealth would make it clear that he started his campaigns with outright lies. Not that the fact will bother many Republicans, but it will cause even more damage to his brand.

540
withak  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:39:01am

re: #538 The Vicious Babushka

What is that symbol in your avatar?

Looks like a Black d20 to me.

541
Black d20  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:39:38am

re: #538 The Vicious Babushka

It’s supposed to be one face of an icosahedron — y’know, a d20. Had the significant dinosaur other whip it up for me.

542
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:39:57am

re: #540 withak

Looks like a Black d20 to me.

OK what is that? Some kind of gaming thingie?

543
Black d20  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:41:00am

re: #542 The Vicious Babushka

Twenty-sided die. So yeah, one of the Things You Need for… well, mostly all modern Dungeons and Dragons play.

544
withak  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:41:25am

re: #542 The Vicious Babushka

OK what is that? Some kind of gaming thingie?

d20, a 20-sided die.

s3.amazonaws.com

Yes, a “gaming thingie,” used in tabletop role-playing games, among other things.

545
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:42:08am

I Googled it and it’s like a Buckyball.

546
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:42:22am

re: #439 The Vicious Babushka

This guy gives a bad name to nanocephalics.

547
Black d20  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:43:02am

re: #545 The Vicious Babushka

They are beautiful things geometrically, yeah.

548
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:50:20am

Wingnut outrage machine today is
50% HURR HURR IRAN!!!!! and
50% HURR HURR PNALLED PRANETHOOD!!!!!!

549
Bird in the Paw  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:52:18am

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Don’t think it makes much sense to pay cash for a new car. Unless you’ve got a zillion dollars in cash on hand. Better to keep the cash for emergencies, if you have it.

Better yet, put that cash (which, as he noted, would go towards a most likely depreciating equity) and invest it at 6x your interest rate on the loan.

550
Eventual Carrion  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:52:41am

re: #530 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Was Reagan the last Republican president?

/

Jeb! might be wishing he was

551
Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:54:40am

re: #365 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Clinton is rehearsing her equivocations.

If I were Clinton, I wouldn’t answer when someone asks what day it is. She’s doing just fine, kicked back, watching the TPGOP eat its poop.

552
jaunte  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:54:42am

Hood County, Texas

553
jaunte  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:55:15am
554
A Cranky One  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:56:28am

So any bets on how long it will take for Upchuck’s RonReaganLives account to get shutdown?

555
Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:57:02am

re: #553 jaunte

[Getting real biblical up in here. fire and brimstone. Speaker warning that #lgbt folks trying to “destroy fabric of society” @lsqnews

They’re not trying to destroy it, just cut it on the bias.

556
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:57:26am

Winner of the Pamela Geller Award gives his take on the Iran talks:

Click to Reveal
557
darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 9:58:33am

So…you really can make just about anything with a 3d printer.

3dprint.com

558
A Cranky One  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:00:55am

re: #548 The Vicious Babushka

Why are they so outraged at Planned Parenthood now (other than it’s a day ending with …day)?

559
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:02:51am

re: #558 A Cranky One

Why are they so outraged at Planned Parenthood now (other than it’s a day ending with …day)?

PNALLED PRNEATHOOD IS HARVISTING & SELLING TEENY TINY BABBY PARTS!!!!!!

560
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:05:47am

The OUTRAGE MACHINE is 60/40 PNALLED PRNEATHOOD/OBUMMER!!!!!!!!!

561
Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:06:59am

Oh and for those interested they are making a TV series based on the Shannarra books by Terry Brooks and he is participating and giving it the thumbs up. It’s going to be on MTV of all places.

562
Lidane  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:07:54am

THIS ASSHOLE:

I never thought I’d miss Goodhair being in office, but Abbott is worse. WTF.

563
Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:09:01am

re: #562 Lidane

THIS ASSHOLE:

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I never thought I’d miss Goodhair being in office, but Abbott is worse. WTF.

Without mental illness, where does Abbott find a voter base?

564
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:09:44am

re: #562 Lidane

THIS ASSHOLE:

[Embedded content]

I never thought I’d miss Goodhair being in office, but Abbott is worse. WTF.

Wow he makes Rick Snyder look like a freaking COMMUNIST.

565
Kid A  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:09:48am

I’m only seeing right-winger “news sites” freaking out on this selling fetus parts, so I’m calling bullshit as usual until proven otherwise.

566
A Cranky One  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:11:08am

re: #559 The Vicious Babushka

PNALLED PRNEATHOOD IS HARVISTING & SELLING TEENY TINY BABBY PARTS!!!!!!

Thanks.

One of the great things about LGF is that I can get some insight into what’s going on in the derp-o-sphere without having to expose myself to the raw sewage feed.

Hat-tip to all the lizards who look so I don’t have to!

567
Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:12:31am

re: #556 The Vicious Babushka

Winner of the Pamela Geller Award gives his take on the Iran talks:

[Embedded content]

Reported

568
Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:13:15am

re: #467 Mattand

Ugh, my neighbor is like the executive in that cartoon. Every time the subject of the abandoned houses in our neighborhood comes up, she always complains about “people” buying houses they knew they couldn’t afford.

Her husband once used a fairly vile racial slur to describe an African-American door-to-door salesman, so I’ll leave you to ponder what she meant by “people”.

Every time I point out that the banks were under no obligation to give a loan to someone who they probably knew couldn’t afford it? Literally ignores what I said and keeps on going with her original beef.

This is why I have such a hard time dealing with conservatives anymore. They are just so willing to go right to poor bashing while ignoring predatory behavior from banks and other corporations.

And it’s “other” poor since the blaming is part of the perceived superiority they hold. Basically someone who has fallen for the race war analogy while failing to spot the actual class war that is really occurring. And they make such good foot soldiers.

569
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:13:25am

Stay classy Ben

570
Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:14:50am
571
Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:14:50am

re: #475 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

We were bombed, invaded, destroyed. Our market economy eviscerated. Record unemployment. Hard to imagine a more concise, thoughtful piece of analysis then that provided by Ben, although somehow despite all the death and destruction and market mayhem has managed to keep talking.

///

So we are now Europe in 1946?

I see the call for displaced person camps already going out.

572
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:16:11am

re: #562 Lidane

THIS ASSHOLE:

I never thought I’d miss Goodhair being in office, but Abbott is worse. WTF.

Kind of interesting to read (in Being Nixon by Evan Thomas) that Haldeman and Ehrlichman were Scientologists, as was the sap they put in nominal charge of the Plumbers committee, Egil Krogh.

573
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:17:39am

re: #569 The Vicious Babushka

Stay classy Ben

Doesn’t this rumor circulate about every six months or so? In another version of this PP burns the baby bits out in the back yard.

/

574
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:18:39am

re: #562 Lidane

THIS ASSHOLE:

[Embedded content]

I never thought I’d miss Goodhair being in office, but Abbott is worse. WTF.

Considering that both the Republicans and the Scientologists have a vested interest in stamping out mental health I’m unsurprised.

575
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:19:34am

According to this deal Iran gets no nukes and no ability to make nukes. and wingnuts are all like HURR HURR OBAMA GAVE IRAN TEH NUKESSS!!!!!!!

576
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:20:10am

re: #562 Lidane

I never thought I’d miss Goodhair being in office, but Abbott is worse. WTF.

That is what scares me about the GOP, their second tier of candidates/officeholders is even zanier than the one we are familiar with.

577
Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:21:20am

re: #527 Lidane

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Onward Christian soldiers… to the exit in fear of the ghey!

578
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:23:21am

re: #575 The Vicious Babushka

According to this deal Iran gets no nukes and no ability to make nukes. and wingnuts are all like HURR HURR OBAMA GAVE IRAN TEH NUKESSS!!!!!!!

That will turn into HURR HURR OBAMA GAVE IRAN TEH PLANS FOR ALL OUR NUKESSS!!!!!!! by the time the first Republican primary comes nigh.

579
darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:23:59am
580
Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:23:59am

re: #573 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Doesn’t this rumor circulate about every six months or so? In another version of this PP burns the baby bits out in the back yard.

/

Wasn’t one of the most recent ones a claim they were using body parts in ice cream or some other nonsense?

581
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:26:09am

re: #575 The Vicious Babushka

According to this deal Iran gets no nukes and no ability to make nukes. and wingnuts are all like HURR HURR OBAMA GAVE IRAN TEH NUKESSS!!!!!!!

582
darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:26:24am
583
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:27:24am

re: #580 Timothy Watson

Wasn’t one of the most recent ones a claim they were using body parts in ice cream or some other nonsense?

“I want my baby-back, baby-back, baby-back,
I want my baby-back, baby-back, baby-back,”

584
Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:28:06am

re: #581 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Obama caved! I see no “No Oddjob” rule while playing Goldeneye!!1!

///

585
darthstar  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:28:22am

re: #583 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“I want my baby-back, baby-back, baby-back,
I want my baby-back, baby-back, baby-back,”

ribbbbs.

586
blueraven  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:28:37am

Twitter shares spike on fake Bloomberg story that it’s selling for $31 billion

A report on a website made to look like bloomberg.com said Twitter had gotten an offer to be taken over for $31 billion.

Bloomberg spokesman Ty Trippet subsequently said the Twitter story was fake.

Read more: businessinsider.com

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:29:01am

re: #582 darthstar

Is that Donald Trump’s hair guiding Netanyahu’s hand?

588
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:29:55am

Now the outrage has kicked up to 70/40 DEAR BABBY PARTS!!!!!/OBAMA GAVE IRAN ALL TEH NUKEZ!!!!!

70 + 40 = ELEVENTY!!!!!!

589
Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:48:02am

re: #99 aagcobb

Here is a pleasant surprise; in the latest polls, opposition to Obamacare has dropped below fifty percent, and support is pretty much even with opposition. The GOP is rapidly running out of issues to run on in the general election.

That’s great news. Wonder how Republicans will react when the support for the ACA is greater than its opposition. Republicans can’t even run on homophobia anymore. What’s left for them?

590
Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:48:43am

re: #485 Dr. Matt

Look?

591
Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:50:17am

re: #488 Mattand

I’d like to think that most economists would tell you that there’s no such thing as a greed-based economy.

I’d like to think that. I’m probably wrong.

They do tell you that. They just call it ‘rational’ instead ‘greed’.

592
Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:54:52am

re: #504 A Cranky One

I call such people ‘hitmen’.

He probably, like most management these days, calls himself a capitalist. It is the most common delusion in that section of our culture and responsible for much of their behaviour. If it’s ‘capitalism’ it’s good so they have an excuse for any unethical or harmful behaviour.

593
Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2015 • 10:57:04am

re: #511 The Vicious Babushka

I’d put that in the category of ‘paranoid insanity’ rather than ‘stupidity’ myself.

594
EmmaAnne  Jul 14, 2015 • 2:54:24pm

re: #204 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Private Comment

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595
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2015 • 6:09:01pm

re: #594 EmmaAnne

Private Comment

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