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Tech Note: New Sharing Tool

Science | Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:25:42 pm PST

We’re trying out a new tool that lets you easily share LGF articles at a whole passel of social networking sites; Digg, Yahoo Buzz, Reddit, Propeller, Newsvine, Facebook, MySpace, etc. etc.

The tool is AddThis. I removed ShareThis for testing purposes; we were having occasional connection problems with ShareThis that slowed down the loading of our pages.

So far AddThis seems quicker and less obtrusive, but we’ll give it a couple of days to see how it performs in comparison to ShareThis.

Here’s a tech tip for the geeks dwelling amongst us. The default AddThis code, which is supposed to be embedded following each article, looks like this:

We discovered that you can put the last line (which loads the Javascript popup code from the AddThis servers) in the <head> section of the page just once, and eliminate it from the other instances where you want an AddThis button. On the LGF front page, this saves dozens of unnecessary calls to the AddThis servers.

UPDATE at 1/9/09 1:39:18 pm:

Correction to that last paragraph: you can load the AddThis Javascript file in the <head> section of the page—except if the browser is Microsoft Internet Explorer, which will occasionally crash with a cryptic “Operation Aborted” error message if you do. The solution for IE is to put that last line of code somewhere in the <body> section of the page instead.

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1 pat  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:26:57pm

Why share?lol

2 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:27:42pm

I don't share well...

3 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:28:23pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

I don't share well...

Big surprise, there. You're so generous with images.

4 gus3  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:28:24pm

Charles, if you're watching...

What happened to my Favorites? Even two that I marked Sunday(?) are gone. Did you make an announcement somewhere recently that I missed?

5 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:28:32pm

re: #2 Occasional Reader

I don't share well...

Well, I run with scissors and eat paste.

6 gus3  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:29:06pm

re: #5 MandyManners

Well, I run with scissors and eat paste.

and vice versa

7 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:29:55pm

re: #5 MandyManners

Well, I run with scissors and eat paste.

I'm trying to think of a response that isn't just too silly for words.

8 Opinionated  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:30:23pm

If possible, a really useful tool would be one that notifies a poster when something they wrote got a response from another user.

9 gus3  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:30:23pm

Ack! Even my avatar is gone!

10 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:30:36pm

re: #7 Dianna

I'm trying to think of a response that isn't just too silly for words.

That never stopped you before. ;)

11 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:31:55pm

re: #8 Opinionated

If possible, a really useful tool would be one that notifies a poster when something they wrote got a response from another user.

Tap on the shoulder?

12 VegasRick  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:32:00pm

re: #9 gus3

Ack! Even my avatar is gone!

You have a nice Karma number though.

13 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:32:01pm

re: #1 pat

Why share?lol

Because sharing is caring. :)

14 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:32:16pm

re: #5 MandyManners

Well, I run with scissors and eat paste.

It's better than the other way around, I guess.

15 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:32:25pm

re: #13 Dark_Falcon

Because sharing is caring. :)

Bah! Humbug!

16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:33:13pm

MINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINE

17 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:33:14pm

re: #10 FurryOldGuyJeans

That never stopped you before. ;)

No...you're right. Hmm.

I shall regard that as permission, you know.

18 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:33:15pm

re: #15 FurryOldGuyJeans

Bah! Humbug!

Christmas was last month, Mr. Scrooge. :)

19 jcm  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:33:20pm

MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE!

Just put the toddlers to bed........

20 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:33:39pm

re: #11 unrealizedviewpoint

Tap on the shoulder?

Slap across the face?

21 jcm  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:33:47pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

7 sec difference..... GMTA.

22 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:34:07pm

re: #9 gus3

Ack! Even my avatar is gone!

Your havin' a bad day.

23 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:34:38pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Christmas was last month, Mr. Scrooge. :)

FIE!

And fiddle-dee-dee too! ;)

24 Charles  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:34:45pm

re: #4 gus3

Charles, if you're watching...

What happened to my Favorites? Even two that I marked Sunday(?) are gone. Did you make an announcement somewhere recently that I missed?

Might you have more than one username?

25 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:35:24pm

re: #21 jcm

7 sec difference..... GMTA.

PMTA is more appropriate for you two. ;)

26 VegasRick  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:35:32pm

re: #24 Charles

Might you have more than one username?

(cue the music)

27 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:35:32pm

re: #20 FurryOldGuyJeans

Slap across the face?

Stinky's job.
But with wrench.

28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:35:45pm

re: #25 FurryOldGuyJeans

PMTA is more appropriate for you two. ;)

:P

29 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:35:55pm

re: #24 Charles

Might you have more than one username?

Hmmm, busted? Ooops! ;)

30 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:36:11pm

re: #24 Charles

Might you have more than one username?

Is.........THIS your card?

31 jcm  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:36:14pm
32 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:36:19pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

MINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINE

re: #19 jcm

MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE!

Just put the toddlers to bed........

33 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:36:22pm

re: #24 Charles

Might you have more than one username?

What happens if one logs in without capitalizing? Say I type "dianna" instead of "Dianna".

34 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:36:41pm

re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

:P

35 jcm  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:36:54pm

re: #25 FurryOldGuyJeans

PMTA is more appropriate for you two. ;)

PHFFFBBBTTTT!
;-P

36 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:37:15pm

re: #31 jcm

I-5 under water Chehalis, WA.

Hey! We want our bailout money!

37 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:37:22pm

Am I the only for whom LGF is running pitifully slow this evening? Hamsters got their feet in the glue?

38 jcm  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:37:25pm

re: #32 MandyManners

[Video]

They watched Nemo this afternoon.
I love the seagulls.

39 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:37:38pm

re: #35 jcm

PHFFFBBBTTTT!
;-P

Neener, neener, neener! ;)

40 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:37:53pm

re: #33 Dianna

What happens if one logs in without capitalizing? Say I type "dianna" instead of "Dianna".

It'll work. DiANna will even work

41 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:38:11pm
42 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:38:36pm

re: #31 jcm

I-5 under water Chehalis, WA.

Jiminy crickets. Wow.

Which is to say, holy shit.

43 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:38:37pm

re: #31 jcm

I-5 under water Chehalis, WA.

Turn around! Don't drown!

44 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:38:44pm

re: #40 unrealizedviewpoint

Huh.

45 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:39:13pm

re: #33 Dianna

What happens if one logs in without capitalizing? Say I type "dianna" instead of "Dianna".

I wouldn't have that problem even if there was a distinction. I have my logons saved so if I need to actually log on the info is automatically added by my browser.

Am interested in the answer, though. ;)

46 VegasRick  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:40:34pm

FOX - Breaking News > U.N Security Council Approves Resolution Calling for Immediate Gaza Cease-Fire

We Suck.

47 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:41:05pm

re: #7 Dianna

I'm trying to think of a response that isn't just too silly for words.

Do you play well with others?

48 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:41:10pm

re: #43 MandyManners

Turn around! Don't drown!

Party pooper! ;)

49 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:41:21pm

re: #19 jcm

MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! If it's broken yours...:)

Just put the toddlers to bed........

50 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:41:34pm

re: #44 Dianna

Huh.

log-out then in using dIaNNa and see what happens.

51 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:41:44pm

re: #46 VegasRick

FOX - Breaking News > U.N Security Council Approves Resolution Calling for Immediate Gaza Cease-Fire

We Suck.

UNSC could also approve a resolution calling for the sun not to rise, doesnt mean its going to happen

52 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:41:48pm

re: #45 FurryOldGuyJeans

I save mine, too. I dislike making mistakes with my own name.

53 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:42:08pm

re: #47 MandyManners

Do you play well with others?

Not according to my report cards.

What about you?

54 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:42:15pm

This should help. Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

What the hell.

55 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:42:22pm

re: #36 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hey! We want our bailout money!

ha!

56 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:42:58pm

re: #53 Dianna

Not according to my report cards.

What about you?

I never got to be the Wake-Up Fairy in Kindergarten 'cause I couldn't lie still and nap.

57 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:43:16pm

re: #52 Dianna

I save mine, too. I dislike making mistakes with my own name.

I save mine because every password I use is a different random combination of upper/lower case letters and numbers.

58 bosforus  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:43:28pm

re: #42 Occasional Reader

Jiminy crickets. Wow.

Which is to say, holy shit.

The humor or your concise clarity mixed with vulgarity did not go unnoticed.

59 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:43:40pm

re: #31 jcm

I-5 under water Chehalis, WA.

I hope the protesters are still able to get to the port at Olympia. //

60 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:43:54pm

re: #52 Dianna

I save mine, too. I dislike making mistakes with my own name.

I always miss-spell my own name.

61 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:44:15pm

re: #46 VegasRick

FOX - Breaking News > U.N Security Council Approves Resolution Calling for Immediate Gaza Cease-Fire

We Suck.

hardly a done deal...the UNSC has an inflated sense of importance...people like me know this :)

62 CommonCents  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:44:16pm

I just had an extremely painful experience. Using IE 6.0.2* sp3 I kept getting an 'operation aborted' and then 'Cannot find server or DNS Error'.

That may turn out to be a godsend. I'm now on Firefox 3.0.5 and I like it (so far).

63 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:44:26pm

re: #56 MandyManners

I never got to be the Wake-Up Fairy in Kindergarten 'cause I couldn't lie still and nap.

My favorite time of the day - it was the only time I didn't feel threatened.

64 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:44:31pm

re: #54 ArmyWife

This should help. Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

What the hell.

Hell is exactly what Our Messiah-King will reap with His negotiate with terrorists harvest.

65 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:44:51pm

re: #54 ArmyWife

This should help. Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

What the hell.

Obama will talk to them because he does not know what else to do. He can't bring himself to label them as the enemy they really are yet (I still hold a small hope that he will learn better), so talking is all he has.

66 jcm  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:44:54pm

re: #49 Dustyvet

Toddlers Creed.....

If I want it, it's mine.
If I gave it to you and I change my mind later, it's mine.
If I can take it away from you, it's mine.
If I had it a little while ago, it's mine.
If it's mine, it will never belong to anyone else, no matter what.
If we are building something together, all the pieces are mine.
If it looks like mine, it's mine.

67 VegasRick  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:45:14pm

re: #24 Charles

Might you have more than one username?

What happenes to gus3 or was that gus2?

68 jcm  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:45:33pm

re: #59 Bloodnok

I hope the protesters are still able to get to the port at Olympia. //

Hey, drive though flood waters is not dangerous, just go for it!
//

69 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:45:39pm

re: #62 CommonCents

I just had an extremely painful experience. Using IE 6.0.2* sp3 I kept getting an 'operation aborted' and then 'Cannot find server or DNS Error'.

That may turn out to be a godsend. I'm now on Firefox 3.0.5 and I like it (so far).

IE 6 is now basically virus ware it is so unsupported and hacked.

70 CynicalConservative  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:45:46pm

re: #62 CommonCents

I just had an extremely painful experience. Using IE 6.0.2* sp3 I kept getting an 'operation aborted' and then 'Cannot find server or DNS Error'.

That may turn out to be a godsend. I'm now on Firefox 3.0.5 and I like it (so far).

Dont worry, minute by minute you'll feel like kicking yourself even harder for not switching sooner.

Recent Convert.

71 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:45:50pm

re: #63 Dianna

My favorite time of the day - it was the only time I didn't feel threatened.

Hm.

Sorry to hear that.

72 VegasRick  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:45:55pm

re: #61 albusteve

hardly a done deal...the UNSC has an inflated sense of importance...people like me know this :)

I hope you are right.

73 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:46:04pm

re: #66 jcm

Toddlers Creed.....

If I want it, it's mine.
If I gave it to you and I change my mind later, it's mine.
If I can take it away from you, it's mine.
If I had it a little while ago, it's mine.
If it's mine, it will never belong to anyone else, no matter what.
If we are building something together, all the pieces are mine.
If it looks like mine, it's mine.

I had a wife exactly like that....#2 if I recall

74 granitebill  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:46:51pm

OT:
UN resolution....

[Link: english.aljazeera.net...]

75 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:47:13pm

re: #68 jcm

Hey, drive though flood waters is not dangerous, just go for it!
//

I did that one time when I lived in San Diego county, crossed what looked like just a shallow surface runoff. Turned out to be a 2 foot deep dip in the road. :|

76 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:47:13pm

re: #73 albusteve

I had a wife exactly like that....#2 if I recall

#2 Was my ex girl friend from New Zealand.

77 jcm  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:48:05pm

re: #74 granitebill

OT:
UN resolution....

[Link: english.aljazeera.net...]

Hamas launches rockets into Israel to confirm acceptance of the cease fire.

78 CommonCents  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:48:10pm

So, I have never asked for anything from anyone here. But now I must. I'm looking for a copy of a CBS Documentary from 1987 called Top Flight, narrated by William Shatner. Are there any media folks here who can lead me in the right direction?

Google only got me to an article that referenced the show on TV-2. I need footage.

79 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:48:21pm

re: #76 Dustyvet

#2 Was my ex girl friend from New Zealand.

Oh and "Whatever Happens, we'll be friends for life"

80 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:48:26pm

re: #73 albusteve

I had a wife exactly like that....#2 if I recall

You probably got my ex-wife. :|

81 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:48:35pm

re: #64 FurryOldGuyJeans

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

I can't believe that someone so damn stupid will soon be called President. I've tried to keep my criticism of Obama to stay as respectful as possible as the venom spewed by the left toward W bothered me greatly. I promise not to make great big paper mache heads, but I don't know that I can promise to not call this one King of the Idiots from here on out.

82 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:48:59pm

re: #37 Alberta Oil Peon

My LGF is running fine. Is Bell or Rogers your internet provider?

They both suck and deliberately slow down internet speed to piss off their customers.

I hate them both, equally.

83 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:49:09pm

re: #63 Dianna

My favorite time of the day - it was the only time I didn't feel threatened.

Aw, nuts. Didn't the teacher do anything?

84 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:49:43pm

re: #71 Occasional Reader

Hm.

Sorry to hear that.

Long, long ago. And probably my own fault.

85 jcm  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:49:47pm

re: #75 FurryOldGuyJeans

I did that one time when I lived in San Diego county, crossed what looked like just a shallow surface runoff. Turned out to be a 2 foot deep dip in the road. :|

Every time it floods someone looks at a road they are familiar with and estimate to be a few inches, then drive through. They don't know the culvert washed out and there is a 15 foot deep channel out there.

86 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:49:50pm

re: #77 jcm

Hamas launches rockets into Israel to confirm acceptance of the cease fire.

that's it really....

87 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:49:52pm

re: #81 ArmyWife

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

I can't believe that someone so damn stupid will soon be called President. I've tried to keep my criticism of Obama to stay as respectful as possible as the venom spewed by the left toward W bothered me greatly. I promise not to make great big paper mache heads, but I don't know that I can promise to not call this one King of the Idiots from here on out.

Awwwwwww!

88 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:50:12pm
89 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:50:15pm

re: #78 CommonCents

So, I have never asked for anything from anyone here. But now I must. I'm looking for a copy of a CBS Documentary from 1987 called Top Flight, narrated by William Shatner. Are there any media folks here who can lead me in the right direction?

Google only got me to an article that referenced the show on TV-2. I need footage.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

90 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:50:45pm
91 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:50:50pm

re: #84 Dianna

Long, long ago. And probably my own fault.

You were a kid!

92 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:50:56pm
93 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:51:07pm
94 jcm  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:51:10pm
95 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:51:16pm
96 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:51:17pm

re: #83 MandyManners

Aw, nuts. Didn't the teacher do anything?

There's a limit to what teachers can do. I had one particular horror - fourth grade still lives in my memory - of a teacher who actively encouraged the bullying. Most of the time, it was fairly low-level.

97 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:51:20pm

It's half time to the national championship..7-7 whoa!
And I love tech threads! Lets go!

98 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:51:23pm

re: #87 Bloodnok

Awwwwwww!

After 20 January 2009, He's fair game...:P

99 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:51:28pm
100 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:51:33pm

re: #80 FurryOldGuyJeans

You probably got my ex-wife. :|

I'd post her name and address but I'm to scared to...she's the reason I bought a flak vest back then....

101 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:51:35pm

re: #81 ArmyWife

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

I can't believe that someone so damn stupid will soon be called President. I've tried to keep my criticism of Obama to stay as respectful as possible as the venom spewed by the left toward W bothered me greatly. I promise not to make great big paper mache heads, but I don't know that I can promise to not call this one King Sultan of the Idiots from here on out.

Fixed, given his name (B. Hussein Obama).

102 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:51:56pm
103 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:52:12pm
104 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:52:18pm

re: #85 jcm

Every time it floods someone looks at a road they are familiar with and estimate to be a few inches, then drive through. They don't know the culvert washed out and there is a 15 foot deep channel out there.

I learned from my time spent in the Republic of the Philippines when I was active duty Navy to appreciate what rain can do. Typhoons and Monsoons can dump a lot of water in a short time, and having to watch a cemetery slide off a hill and splatter onto a road is not fun.

105 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:52:29pm

re: #84 Dianna

Long, long ago. And probably my own fault.

It most certainly was not. But I'd propose that we need not go any deeper into this matter, on a public forum!

106 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:52:32pm
107 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:53:03pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

Excellent improvement! Gracias.

108 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:53:20pm

re: #86 albusteve

Of course the Joooos are going to respond disproportionally......

Oh, oh the poor poor downtrodden palestinians.

Victims. Victims, I tell you of Zionazi oppression.

109 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:53:40pm

re: #98 Dustyvet

After 20 January 2009, He's fair game...:P

For me He was fair game the picosecond McCain conceded on 4 November 2008.

110 Opinionated  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:53:44pm

As a going away present the Bush Administration just showed Obama that it is OK to abstain and allow anti Israel resolutions to pass the Security Council.

Obama will use that gift to harm Israel many times in the next four years.

111 VegasRick  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:53:47pm

re: #97 HoosierHoops

It's half time to the national championship..7-7 whoa!
And I love tech threads! Lets go!

The total opened at 73, got bet down to 69 1/2. FLA opened as a 1 point fav, closed FLA minus 5 1/2. Our books are gonna get beat BAD tonight.

112 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:53:52pm

re: #91 MandyManners

You were a kid!

Remember, this was when bullying was "just kids being kids." They'd have had to kill me for anything to have been done.

113 saberry0530  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:54:15pm

Just got the results of the granddaughters first 1/2 year of Kindergarten. she is rated at 4th Grade reading skills, 3rd grade math, 5th grade science, 3rd grade Social studies.

I guess all the times sitting in my lap reading LGF has paid off. We do quickly skipover the cuss words and mature subjects. butt the rest she reads right along with me. SHe thinks your very funny Mandy.

114 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:54:18pm

re: #94 jcm

Obama is the Messiah and Spidey too!

The only other US president to appear is a comic book as far I know was JFK. He appeared twice in Superman, the second time actually impersonating Clark Kent to prevent Kent's secret identity from being discovered.

115 CommonCents  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:54:20pm

re: #89 unrealizedviewpoint

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

You rock! After doing 95% of my Christmas shopping on Amazon, that didn't even occur to me. Thanks.

116 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:54:36pm

Charles: What do you use for you backend DBase? Do you use MYSQL? I noticed alot of bloggers do..or it seems so..What do you prefer?

117 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:54:43pm

re: #96 Dianna

There's a limit to what teachers can do. I had one particular horror - fourth grade still lives in my memory - of a teacher who actively encouraged the bullying. Most of the time, it was fairly low-level.

I hope Karma has bit her butt.

118 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:55:18pm

Me, I didn't have a bad time in kindergarten, but I didn't particularly want to be there, that was all. On the plus side, I met my best friend in kindergarten, who's still my best friend now, 37 years later.

119 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:55:18pm

re: #100 albusteve

I'd post her name and address but I'm to scared to...she's the reason I bought a flak vest back then....

If it ain't San Diego county, then you are safe....you just got a clone of my ex.

120 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:55:30pm

re: #109 FurryOldGuyJeans

For me He was fair game the picosecond McCain conceded on 4 November 2008.

Yeah same here, but I was playing nice, now please pass the paste and the scissors...

121 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:55:58pm

re: #117 MandyManners

I hope Karma has bit her butt.

Me, too. Deeply and hard.

122 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:56:24pm

re: #111 VegasRick

The total opened at 73, got bet down to 69 1/2. FLA opened as a 1 point fav, closed FLA minus 5 1/2. Our books are gonna get beat BAD tonight.

I have never bet on sports in my life..but if I did..I'd go under tonight..

123 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:56:41pm

re: #82 WhiteRasta

My LGF is running fine. Is Bell or Rogers your internet provider?

They both suck and deliberately slow down internet speed to piss off their customers.

I hate them both, equally.

WR, my ISP is Xplornet. Rural wireless service. But it only seems to be LGF that is running slow. Reloaded numerous times; restarted Firefox numerous times. Sometimes "new comments" button works as it should, sometimes not. Same for "preview" button.

124 Last Mohican  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:56:54pm

Good evening fellow honcos! I just finished catching up on the 1000+ comments on the fake CNN video thread. Lots of excellent observations there. I've also just video screen-captured and reviewed the high-resolution version of the Channel 4 video that Charles posted, so can I add a few more thoughts, even though this train has pretty much left the station by now?

1. I agree with the observation, made by several people, that a code on an exsanguinating trauma patient should include massive amounts of fluid, infused by as many big IV lines as possible. But I'm not sure we can say that wasn't happening. There's an IV pole on the patient's left, with two bags hanging on it. The patient appears to have a left antecubital IV. Someone also would have put in a central line, if this were a real code, but there's a tube that could conceivably be a central line heading under the patient's heavy blanket. Hey, wait a second...

2. Blanket? Why the hell is there a heavy blanket on the patient? You don't put a blanket on a patient during a code. And if there's one there, the first thing you do is take it off, particularly if it's a trauma patient. It's staring us right in the face, but, besides the absurdly unrealistic chest compressions and the lack of any ventilation for the patient, this might be the most egregiously faked part of the whole video.

3. There's no defibrillator anywhere near the patient. Nobody would run a code without a defibrillator.

I'll leave it at that. Thanks to everyone for checking out the video carefully, and special thanks to Kilgore Trout for some excellent sleuthing in figuring out that the camera operator ran two websites for Hamas.

125 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:57:22pm
126 ciaospirit  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:57:36pm

If you just ate, this might bring it back up.

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127 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:57:40pm

re: #108 WhiteRasta

Of course the Joooos are going to respond disproportionally......

Oh, oh the poor poor downtrodden palestinians.

Victims. Victims, I tell you of Zionazi oppression.

there are other levels of awareness beyond victim they say...there is a raisin fiesta to celebrate somewhere

128 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:57:59pm

re: #112 Dianna

Remember, this was when bullying was "just kids being kids." They'd have had to kill me for anything to have been done.

The Kid had a bully who picked on him (he was really big). I told him to avoid the jerk and to talk to a teacher if he went out of his way to bug him. They booted him out of school when he broke another student's arm.

129 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:58:14pm

re: #120 Dustyvet

Yeah same here, but I was playing nice, now please pass the paste and the scissors...

Safe for me is to change the channel if He comes on and starts speaking, my cat starts hissing and spitting.

Safe for me would be to turn my back if He were to ever be where I am.

Safe for me is to brick up my mouth so I don't say what I truly think about Our Messiah-King. ;)

130 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:58:28pm

It finally has been more than 24 hours since I voted for LGF as the Best Conservative Blog

131 stevieray  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:58:49pm

So, is anybody gonna try Windows 7 tomorrow?

132 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:59:07pm

re: #119 FurryOldGuyJeans

If it ain't San Diego county, then you are safe....you just got a clone of my ex.

they are all over the place...watch where you step amigo...

133 saberry0530  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:59:13pm

re: #131 stevieray

YEP Already have a copy.

134 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:59:28pm

re: #131 stevieray

So, is anybody gonna try Windows 7 tomorrow?

Only if MS buys me a new computer.

135 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:59:37pm

re: #118 Occasional Reader

Me, I didn't have a bad time in kindergarten, but I didn't particularly want to be there, that was all. On the plus side, I met my best friend in kindergarten, who's still my best friend now, 37 years later.

Ah, also, I had a crush on my kindergarten teacher, who was French Canadian with a very cute accent. I have only a hazy memory of what she looked like, but my Dad assures me I had very good taste even at age 5. Thus began my, er, predilection for foreign women.

Come to think of it, maybe I didn't mind kindergarten so much.

136 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:59:53pm

re: #124 Last Mohican

Excellent!

137 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:00:04pm

re: #132 albusteve

they are all over the place...watch where you step amigo...

I just run over them with my wheeled walker. ;)

138 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:00:10pm

re: #125 taxfreekiller

Wonder how dear Dr. Dean is feeling about selling what was left of his soul to get this cat elected.

139 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:00:31pm

re: #124 Last Mohican

Good evening fellow honcos! I just finished catching up on the 1000+ comments on the fake CNN video thread. Lots of excellent observations there. I've also just video screen-captured and reviewed the high-resolution version of the Channel 4 video that Charles posted, so can I add a few more thoughts, even though this train has pretty much left the station by now?

1. I agree with the observation, made by several people, that a code on an exsanguinating trauma patient should include massive amounts of fluid, infused by as many big IV lines as possible. But I'm not sure we can say that wasn't happening. There's an IV pole on the patient's left, with two bags hanging on it. The patient appears to have a left antecubital IV. Someone also would have put in a central line, if this were a real code, but there's a tube that could conceivably be a central line heading under the patient's heavy blanket. Hey, wait a second...

2. Blanket? Why the hell is there a heavy blanket on the patient? You don't put a blanket on a patient during a code. And if there's one there, the first thing you do is take it off, particularly if it's a trauma patient. It's staring us right in the face, but, besides the absurdly unrealistic chest compressions and the lack of any ventilation for the patient, this might be the most egregiously faked part of the whole video.

3. There's no defibrillator anywhere near the patient. Nobody would run a code without a defibrillator.

I'll leave it at that. Thanks to everyone for checking out the video carefully, and special thanks to Kilgore Trout for some excellent sleuthing in figuring out that the camera operator ran two websites for Hamas.

Building I live in has defibrillators located on each floor in my Senior Apartment building, however should you use one in an emergency, you'll get evicted. Your tax dollars at work.

140 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:00:50pm
141 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:01:00pm

re: #138 ArmyWife

Wonder how dear Dr. Dean is feeling about selling what was left of his soul to get this cat elected.

Yeargh!

142 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:01:10pm

re: #123 Alberta Oil Peon

Power down the computer and power up again.

143 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:01:21pm

re: #128 MandyManners

The Kid had a bully who picked on him (he was really big). I told him to avoid the jerk and to talk to a teacher if he went out of his way to bug him. They booted him out of school when he broke another student's arm.

I think I'll be enrolling my kids in martial arts at a very young age. I'd rather they just avoid the whole "getting bullied" thing.

144 Last Mohican  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:01:29pm

re: #139 Dustyvet

Building I live in has defibrillators located on each floor in my Senior Apartment building, however should you use one in an emergency, you'll get evicted. Your tax dollars at work.

Why would you get evicted for using a defibrillator?

145 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:01:35pm

re: #126 ciaospirit

If you just ate, this might bring it back up.

She thinks she knows the "power of the screen." Let me tell you, there ain't a screen made powerful enough to hide the ugliness of that old b****.

'cause the ugly goes to the bone in that one.

146 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:03:09pm

re: #135 Occasional Reader

Ah, also, I had a crush on my kindergarten teacher, who was French Canadian with a very cute accent. I have only a hazy memory of what she looked like, but my Dad assures me I had very good taste even at age 5. Thus began my, er, predilection for foreign women.

Come to think of it, maybe I didn't mind kindergarten so much.

The kid next to me actually ate paste.

It was a Lutheran kindergarten (no public kindergarten back then), and they never told me why I never got to light or put out the candles.

Mrs. Krehel was not particularly cute or French, but she did teach me phonics. With elves and brownies, IIRC.

I got to walk both ways (imagine that today) out of my neighborhood and across a "major" street. When it rained, I wore my poncho and carried my shoes.

147 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:03:31pm

re: #144 Last Mohican

Why would you get evicted for using a defibrillator?

Sounds like government rules and regulations speaking.

148 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:03:40pm

re: #139 Dustyvet

Building I live in has defibrillators located on each floor in my Senior Apartment building, however should you use one in an emergency, you'll get evicted. Your tax dollars at work.

Then why put them in?

149 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:03:40pm

re: #139 Dustyvet

Building I live in has defibrillators located on each floor in my Senior Apartment building, however should you use one in an emergency, you'll get evicted. Your tax dollars at work.

Why would you get evicted?

150 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:04:47pm

re: #144 Last Mohican

Why would you get evicted for using a defibrillator?

We where informed that if another person goes down, we are not to touch them, we are to call 911 and wait. When we asked building manager about using the defibrillator, she reverted to rule 1, don't touch and call 911.

151 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:04:57pm

re: #124 Last Mohican

2. Blanket? Why the hell is there a heavy blanket on the patient? You don't put a blanket on a patient during a code. And if there's one there, the first thing you do is take it off, particularly if it's a trauma patient.

Out of curiosity; why not?

152 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:05:20pm

re: #150 Dustyvet

We where informed that if another person goes down, we are not to touch them, we are to call 911 and wait. When we asked building manager about using the defibrillator, she reverted to rule 1, don't touch and call 911.

But you can use it on yourself, right?

153 saberry0530  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:05:21pm

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

Why would you get evicted?

Probably because you have to thave the unit re- certified after use. Could cost up to 1000 dollars vs. the cost of a new machine at 2500.

154 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:05:34pm

re: #150 Dustyvet

We where informed that if another person goes down, we are not to touch them, we are to call 911 and wait. When we asked building manager about using the defibrillator, she reverted to rule 1, don't touch and call 911.

Someone afraid of getting sued by an ambulance chaser. *SPIT*

155 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:05:34pm

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

Why would you get evicted?

they connect cherry bombs to them and deploy them as claymores for a diversion...doin the old folks boogie

156 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:06:25pm

re: #148 Dianna

Then why put them in?

Building is HUD funded, it was HUD money that paid for them, Oh and this is the Great State of Illinois.

157 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:06:53pm

re: #156 Dustyvet

Building is HUD funded, it was HUD money that paid for them, Oh and this is the Great State of Illinois.

No other explanation needed.

158 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:07:08pm

re: #143 Occasional Reader

My neighbor and good friend has a very geeky redhead son. The kid was bullied until he took up Kendo.

He is now a very handsome 16 year old who is not bullied anymore.

I'd definitely recommend it.

159 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:07:14pm

re: #130 jwb7605

It finally has been more than 24 hours since I voted for LGF as the Best Conservative Blog

Hell..I realized today since i post on multiple routers during the day i could vote from all kinds of remote locations.. But I will not do that.. I read Charles Bio the other day I had no idea..He is a great jazz guitarist whom I checked out this morning.
He doesn't care about popularity.. He cares about purity.. in life and in music.
The beauty of those notes drown out the high school popularity contest.

160 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:07:53pm

re: #156 Dustyvet

Building is HUD funded, it was HUD money that paid for them, Oh and this is the Great State of Illinois.

Maybe Obama will put Andy Cuomo back in charge of HUD, and he'll sue the hell out of the manufacturers for making semiautomatic high-capacity defibrillators and endangering HUD residents...

161 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:07:55pm

re: #139 Dustyvet

Building I live in has defibrillators located on each floor in my Senior Apartment building, however should you use one in an emergency, you'll get evicted. Your tax dollars at work.

That's about as wacky as this.

162 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:08:52pm

re: #158 WhiteRasta

My neighbor and good friend has a very geeky redhead son. The kid was bullied until he took up Kendo.

He is now a very handsome 16 year old who is not bullied anymore.

I'd definitely recommend it.

That, or reach 6 feet and 185 pounds (worked for me).

I have since added extra weight for extra protection. That's my story...

163 sngnsgt  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:08:52pm

re: #69 FurryOldGuyJeans

IE 6 is now basically virus ware it is so unsupported and hacked.

My Father uses IE6 for some unknown reason. He's called me 3 times this week to talk him out of a virus that keeps opening the same page over and over until the PC freezes. I found superantispyware and that took care of it. I still can't get him to use a different browser though. I tried to get him to at least try IE7 but after he didn't like that, I had to roll it back to IE6 for him. Some are more experienced and set in their ways to get them to try something new.

164 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:09:16pm

re: #154 FurryOldGuyJeans

Someone afraid of getting sued by an ambulance chaser. *SPIT*

These machines are the ones that talk to you in an emergency, like the ones you see in airports and other places. It talks as you place the leads, and when to push the red button.

165 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:09:21pm

re: #159 HoosierHoops

Hell..I realized today since i post on multiple routers during the day i could vote from all kinds of remote locations.. But I will not do that.. I read Charles Bio the other day I had no idea..He is a great jazz guitarist whom I checked out this morning.
He doesn't care about popularity.. He cares about purity.. in life and in music.
The beauty of those notes drown out the high school popularity contest.

done and done thnx for the reminder...got a squeeker goin in the Big Game eh?

166 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:09:27pm
167 Dianna  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:09:52pm

I'm going to take my Male out to dinner. I'm too tired to go to the store.

168 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:10:04pm

re: #152 OldLineTexan

But you can use it on yourself, right?

Umm, nope...

169 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:10:10pm

re: #143 Occasional Reader

I think I'll be enrolling my kids in martial arts at a very young age. I'd rather they just avoid the whole "getting bullied" thing.

One problem with that is some kids will want to see how tough your kids are and try to pick fights.

170 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:10:20pm

re: #146 OldLineTexan

It was a Lutheran kindergarten (no public kindergarten back then), and they never told me why I never got to light or put out the candles.

And do you know the reason now?

171 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:10:25pm

re: #159 HoosierHoops

Hell..I realized today since i post on multiple routers during the day i could vote from all kinds of remote locations.. But I will not do that.. I read Charles Bio the other day I had no idea..He is a great jazz guitarist whom I checked out this morning.
He doesn't care about popularity.. He cares about purity.. in life and in music.
The beauty of those notes drown out the high school popularity contest.


Where is his bio posted? I heard his actual voice for the first time today.
He wants to be known as Overlord.

172 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:10:36pm

re: #152 OldLineTexan

But you can use it on yourself, right?

Only for parties.

173 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:10:41pm

re: #161 unrealizedviewpoint

That's about as wacky as this.

They do that at my job now. I shit you not. We have extinguishers...but we have express orders from El Jefe Grande (he's a good guy) to RUN OUT THE DOOR and call him from a bar if we feel like it.

Back in the old days, you got extinguisher training at the helicopter pad. That was so freakin' FUN.

174 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:11:02pm

re: #164 Dustyvet

These machines are the ones that talk to you in an emergency, like the ones you see in airports and other places. It talks as you place the leads, and when to push the red button.

Doesn't matter....some ambulance chaser would love taking the case.

175 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:11:47pm

re: #169 MandyManners

Only once........

176 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:11:54pm

re: #170 Occasional Reader

And do you know the reason now?

Yes. I figured it out in public school!

177 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:12:00pm

re: #165 albusteve

done and done thnx for the reminder...got a squeeker goin in the Big Game eh?

All I ask in life is that girls night out on national championship night goes till at least midnight.. I don't ask for much

178 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:12:04pm

re: #162 OldLineTexan

That, or reach 6 feet and 185 pounds (worked for me).

I have since added extra weight for extra protection. That's my story...

it's guys like you that have me pack an RPG when I go clubbing

179 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:12:13pm

re: #158 WhiteRasta

My neighbor and good friend has a very geeky redhead son. The kid was bullied until he took up Kendo.

He is now a very handsome 16 year old who is not bullied anymore.

I'd definitely recommend it.

Does he walk around school carrying a shinai?

180 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:12:18pm

re: #154 FurryOldGuyJeans

Someone afraid of getting sued by an ambulance chaser. *SPIT*

It might not be such a bad idea for someone who uses a defibrillator to know how to operate it, don't you think?

181 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:12:19pm

re: #164 Dustyvet

These machines are the ones that talk to you in an emergency, like the ones you see in airports and other places. It talks as you place the leads, and when to push the red button.

If a guys dying in front of me I'm using then suing.

182 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:12:31pm

re: #150 Dustyvet

We where informed that if another person goes down, we are not to touch them, we are to call 911 and wait. When we asked building manager about using the defibrillator, she reverted to rule 1, don't touch and call 911.

I'd say use the defibrillator anyway, if you know how. I could not let someone die like that. Doesn't matter what the cost to me would be, I could not just stand by and then live with myself if they died. Sometimes you just have to do the right thing, knowing you'll be punished for it.

183 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:13:41pm

re: #177 HoosierHoops

All I ask in life is that girls night out on national championship night goes till at least midnight.. I don't ask for much

well that too...

184 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:13:47pm

re: #171 jwb7605

Where is his bio posted? I heard his actual voice for the first time today.
He wants to be known as Overlord.

Wikki! 2nd half just started up...

185 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:13:57pm

re: #174 FurryOldGuyJeans

Doesn't matter....some ambulance chaser would love taking the case.

Illinois is full of those and we 50 miles from Chicago...

186 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:13:59pm

re: #179 Occasional Reader

No, but the word has got out not to mess with "Jim".

187 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:13:59pm

re: #180 Spare O'Lake

It might not be such a bad idea for someone who uses a defibrillator to know how to operate it, don't you think?

The device talks and gives exact instructions.

188 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:14:07pm

re: #171 jwb7605

Where is his bio posted? I heard his actual voice for the first time today.
He wants to be known as Overlord.

Not wants to be known as. He is the Overlord.

189 saberry0530  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:14:18pm

re: #180 Spare O'Lake

It might not be such a bad idea for someone who uses a defibrillator to know how to operate it, don't you think?

Most of the modern ones have built in diagnostics that can recognize an irregular or no heart beat. you just put the pds on the person and stand back. We had to take a class at work last month. For an ambulance to get to us at work would take an hour. Not a good thing.

190 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:14:34pm

re: #169 MandyManners

One problem with that is some kids will want to see how tough your kids are and try to pick fights.

Could be, and actually I've heard from a friend who has two kids who are already black belts (TaeKwonDo) in their 'tweens that they've had some trouble with that. But it doesn't really bother the kids, because they know that if it comes down to it, they can kick the bully's ass. They also know to walk away at the right time.

191 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:14:47pm

re: #178 albusteve

it's guys like you that have me pack an RPG when I go clubbing

Why?

192 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:14:54pm

re: #176 OldLineTexan

Yes. I figured it out in public school!

Okay, and it was....?

193 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:15:16pm

re: #188 unrealizedviewpoint

Not wants to be known as. He is the Overlord.

Your lips are getting awfully brown. ;)

194 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:15:18pm

re: #190 Occasional Reader

Could be, and actually I've heard from a friend who has two kids who are already black belts (TaeKwonDo) in their 'tweens that they've had some trouble with that. But it doesn't really bother the kids, because they know that if it comes down to it, they can kick the bully's ass. They also know to walk away at the right time.

They do not rack disciprine.

195 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:15:32pm

re: #187 FurryOldGuyJeans

The device talks and gives exact instructions.

it's a democrat....stand away from it bro...

196 Bobblehead  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:15:32pm

Has Mama Winger been around lately? I know she has had health issues and I worry if I don't see her posting.

197 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:15:58pm

re: #181 unrealizedviewpoint

If a guys dying in front of me I'm using then suing.

I'm a school trained army medic, I'd do the same, and have informed the building manger of that.

198 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:16:16pm

re: #192 Occasional Reader

Okay, and it was....?

Not a Lutheran. Only the Lutheran boys were chapel boys. I thought the candle-snuffer was pretty cool, even if I wasn't jazzed about the surplice.

199 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:16:34pm

re: #191 OldLineTexan

Why?

I'm 4/2 and 98lbs...

200 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:16:45pm

re: #195 albusteve

it's a democrat....stand away from it bro...

No, Dems give VAGUE instructions and then blame you when you don't know what the hell they just said.

201 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:16:50pm

re: #190 Occasional Reader

That's a thing I admire about martial arts, the kids are taught discipline and I have rarely heard of a martial arts kid being a bully.

202 Opinionated  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:16:51pm

Israel also found a useful tool

IDF unveils Hamas map seized in Gaza

Paratroopers in northern Gaza have uncovered a map prepared by Hamas that shows how the terror group prepared for the IDF's incursion by deploying different types of bombs as well as snipers throughout the town of Atatra.

The handwritten map is based on a bird's-eye view of the town, likely taken from Google Maps. On the map, Hamas split the town into three sectors - red, blue and green - and highlighted important sites such as mosques, a gas station and a fuel depot.

"On the map, the terrorists also marked sniper positions, as well as the location of roadside bombs, antitank bombs and land mines," Chief Intelligence Officer Brig.-Gen. Yuval Halamish said on Thursday.

Halamish said the map showed how Hamas does not hesitate to use civilian infrastructure for its terrorist activity. A brown dot marked next to a mosque represents a sniper position.

More

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Will you hear about this on CNN?

203 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:16:52pm

re: #196 Bobblehead

She got the stick a while back, IIRC.

204 Last Mohican  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:16:58pm

re: #151 Occasional Reader

Out of curiosity; why not?

You want the coding patient to be buck naked, or close thereto, pretty quickly. Mostly because a lot of people cluster around the patient very quickly (unlike in the bogus code in the video), and need unhindered access to different parts of the body. Someone by the head will be bag ventilating, then intubating, then bagging through the tube. Someone by the chest will be doing chest compressions. Someone else near the neck will be checking for a carotid pulse during pauses in the compressions. Someone else will need to put on cardiac monitor electrodes. If a pulse comes back, someone will be checking for a blood pressure. Someone else may be trying to put in a central intravenous line, most often (during a code) a femoral line that goes in through the groin. Someone else may be trying to draw blood from somewhere else. Basically, there's a lot going on (again, unlike in the bogus code in the video), and the last thing anyone wants is sheets, blankets, clothes, etc. in the way. Particularly a big heavy blanket that covers more than half the patient, as in this case.

Also, any serious trauma patient would get all his or her clothes removed immediately upon arriving in the emergency room, whether or not his or her heart ever stopped. ER nurses get extremely good at doing this amazingly quickly, using big scissors that are sometimes called "trauma shears." The idea is that you need to inspect every inch of the patient for signs of traumatic injury that you might have missed. For example, you don't notice the gunshot wound in the back until you roll the patient over. You don't know about the bowel injury until you do the rectal exam.

205 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:17:17pm

re: #193 FurryOldGuyJeans

Your lips are getting awfully brown. ;)

I never ever say such things, ever!
It dates back to the Cox & Forkum toon.

206 Bobblehead  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:17:38pm

re: #203 OldLineTexan

She got the stick a while back, IIRC.

Oh dear.

207 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:17:51pm

re: #205 unrealizedviewpoint

I never ever say such things, ever!
It dates back to the Cox & Forkum toon.

yeah, SUUUURE! ;)

208 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:17:58pm

re: #200 FurryOldGuyJeans

No, Dems give VAGUE instructions and then blame you when you don't know what the hell they just said.

HA!...so true

209 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:18:02pm

re: #198 OldLineTexan

Not a Lutheran.

[and they all moved away from Tex there on the "Group W" bench]

210 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:18:07pm

re: #199 albusteve

I'm 4/2 and 98lbs...

I've never bullied anyone but bullies. Now that is some fun.

211 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:19:24pm

re: #204 Last Mohican

Dear G-d. No wonder I was never attracted to medical school.

212 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:19:41pm

re: #209 Occasional Reader

[and they all moved away from Tex there on the "Group W" bench]

? Dubya has a group?

213 Last Mohican  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:20:02pm

re: #150 Dustyvet

We where informed that if another person goes down, we are not to touch them, we are to call 911 and wait. When we asked building manager about using the defibrillator, she reverted to rule 1, don't touch and call 911.

That is truly bizarre. If there's one thing they drill into you during ACLS training, it's that rapid defibrillation saves lives, and you should have an automatic defibrillator around anyplace where someone might suddenly die (everywhere, basically).

I wonder if you could get sued for not using a defibrillator when there's one right there?

214 summergurl  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:20:46pm

So the Obama Camp is prepared to open dialogue with Hamas?

willing to talk

215 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:21:00pm

re: #210 OldLineTexan

I've never bullied anyone but bullies. Now that is some fun.

I'm very passive....passive the bong

216 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:21:05pm

re: #213 Last Mohican

I wonder if you could get sued for not using a defibrillator when there's one right there?

Ambulance chasers do that all the time.

217 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:21:21pm

re: #202 Opinionated

Israel also found a useful tool

IDF unveils Hamas map seized in Gaza

More

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Will you hear about this on CNN?

No, because it would distract us from the stories about ululating Palestinian mothers mourning their assassinated cherubs.

218 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:21:31pm

re: #214 summergurl

So the Obama Camp is prepared to open dialogue with Hamas?

willing to talk

Old news, sad to say.

219 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:21:36pm

re: #213 Last Mohican

That is truly bizarre. If there's one thing they drill into you during ACLS training, it's that rapid defibrillation saves lives, and you should have an automatic defibrillator around anyplace where someone might suddenly die (everywhere, basically).

I wonder if you could get sued for not using a defibrillator when there's one right there?

I'd certainly be suing the management if folks walked away abandoning my family member because of their absurd instruction. Ya got that instruction from them in writing?

220 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:21:57pm

re: #210 OldLineTexan

I've never bullied anyone but bullies. Now that is some fun.

"When you have a man by the b***s, his heart and mind will soon follow..."

Master Sgt, George Washington Case III
Military Police
Fort Sam Houston, Texas.

221 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:22:33pm

re: #214 summergurl

So the Obama Camp is prepared to open dialogue with Hamas?

willing to talk

Bad, Bad, Sick. I'm saying that a lot lately, but it's the only thing that fits these days.

222 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:23:11pm

re: #187 FurryOldGuyJeans

The device talks and gives exact instructions.

In that case if someone dies because of the ban on using the device, I bet the ambulance chaser could sue the idiotic property manager who told people not to use it.

223 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:23:16pm

re: #219 unrealizedviewpoint

I'd certainly be suing the management if folks walked away abandoning my family member because of their absurd instruction. Ya got that instruction from them in writing?

Too many people wouldn't want to rock the boat and would follow the instructions regardless.

224 SteveC  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:23:22pm

re: #213 Last Mohican

That is truly bizarre. If there's one thing they drill into you during ACLS training, it's that rapid defibrillation saves lives, and you should have an automatic defibrillator around anyplace where someone might suddenly die (everywhere, basically).

They are every 100 feet (or less) in airports. If they trust John Q. Traveling Public to use them, that should tell you something.

225 summergurl  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:23:29pm

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

Bad, Bad, Sick. I'm saying that a lot lately, but it's the only thing that fits these days.


I can not imagine how Israel feels.

226 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:23:53pm

re: #222 Spare O'Lake

In that case if someone dies because of the ban on using the device, I bet the ambulance chaser could sue the idiotic property manager who told people not to use it.

An ambulance chaser would find someone to sue no matter what the outcome.

227 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:24:56pm

re: #223 FurryOldGuyJeans

Too many people wouldn't want to rock the boat and would follow the instructions regardless.

You mean the Obama voters?

228 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:24:58pm

re: #226 FurryOldGuyJeans

An ambulance chaser would find someone to sue no matter what the outcome.

Hey, stop talking that way about John Edwards!

229 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:25:22pm

re: #223 FurryOldGuyJeans

Too many people wouldn't want to rock the boat and would follow the instructions regardless.

stuff like that depends on some personal and civil responsibility....there fore it is doomed to failure

230 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:25:25pm

re: #222 Spare O'Lake

In that case if someone dies because of the ban on using the device, I bet the ambulance chaser could sue the idiotic property manager who told people not to use it.

You make the decision to try to save a life based on what is right, not based on what a lawyer will say. A hostile jury verdict is nothing compared to a hostile verdict from Jesus.

231 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:25:52pm

re: #215 albusteve

I think the passive, quiet ones are the most dangerous.

I'm a passive, quiet kind of guy too with a long fuse.

I did beat the snot out of a dude who claimed he was a black belt in karate once.

I cheated, he turned his back on me and I jumped his ass and beat him senseless. I really don't think he was a real black belt.

232 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:26:14pm

re: #228 Occasional Reader

Hey, stop talking that way about John Edwards!

How should I be talking about the scum sucking Silky Pony then?

233 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:26:31pm

Hooray for Hot Air....
CNN stung by fake atrocity video?

Booyah!

234 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:26:52pm

re: #231 WhiteRasta

I think the passive, quiet ones are the most dangerous.

I'm a passive, quiet kind of guy too with a long fuse.

I did beat the snot out of a dude who claimed he was a black belt in karate once.

I cheated, he turned his back on me and I jumped his ass and beat him senseless. I really don't think he was a real black belt.

Other then the black belt he was using to hold his pants up...:)

235 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:26:52pm

re: #220 Dustyvet

"When you have a man by the b***s, his heart and mind will soon follow..."

Master Sgt, George Washington Case III
Military Police
Fort Sam Houston, Texas.

I didn't even touch the little bastid. I merely stood behind him as he worked over a smaller kid, and intoned "I get the winner."

I have a deep voice, especially when MSgt Case is not getting my attention.

Got me a visit from his mama. I told her that it was her business if she wanted to raise a bully, that I was the big dog in MY yard, and that a budding bully needed to KNOW that particular lesson.

The WW2 Navy vet across the street was laughing his ass off. She huffed away, and I never saw that little shit again unless he was RUNNING down the sidewalk in front of my house.

I like to think I may have saved him from a life of incarceration, etc.

236 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:27:32pm

re: #225 summergurl

I can not imagine how Israel feels.

Alone, I would guess. Nothing new.

237 SteveC  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:27:34pm

re: #226 FurryOldGuyJeans

An ambulance chaser would find someone to sue no matter what the outcome.

Call 1-800-WIN-WIN-1

238 ciaospirit  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:27:49pm

Has Spidey lost his Spidey sense?

WASHINGTON – Spider-Man has a new sidekick: The president-elect.

Barack Obama collected Spider-Man comics as a child, so Marvel Comics wanted to give him a "shout-out back" by featuring him in a bonus story, said Joe Quesada, Marvel's editor-in-chief.

"How great is that? The commander in chief to be is actually a nerd in chief," Quesada said. "It was really, really cool to see that we had a geek in the White House. We're all thrilled with that."

The comic starts with Spider-Man's alter-ego Peter Parker taking photographs at the inauguration, before spotting two identical Obamas.

Parker decides "the future president's gonna need Spider-Man," and springs into action, using basketball to determine the real Obama and punching out the impostor.

Obama thanks him with a fist-bump.

239 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:27:56pm

re: #226 FurryOldGuyJeans

Good Samaritan laws would generally cover John Q. Public in a case like this.

240 albusteve  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:28:07pm

re: #231 WhiteRasta

I think the passive, quiet ones are the most dangerous.

I'm a passive, quiet kind of guy too with a long fuse.

I did beat the snot out of a dude who claimed he was a black belt in karate once.

I cheated, he turned his back on me and I jumped his ass and beat him senseless. I really don't think he was a real black belt.

ha!...it doesnt matter now eh?....self preservation is a very loose construct...

241 3 wood  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:28:12pm

Good evening.

In today's market the Dow was down 0.31%, the S&P 500 was up 0.34% which would suggest that the market was pretty flat today.

A key statistic though, again that the MSM will not tell you, is that of the 3113 issues inthe NYSE today, 1900 (61%) gained on the day. You are starting to see more days of more gainiers than losers.

Some might call that a "dead cat bounce", draw your own conclusions.

Remember that the market tends to turn 3 to 6 months before the economic data reported reflects that, cause such data is always reported a quarter or two later.

Another interesting item is the TED spread is down to 1.28, which is starting to get back to what many would consider "normal" range.

The VIX (volatility index) is at 42 and change, less than half the high point reached in October of 89 and change. The lower this index goes, the less volatile the market is.

In early trading in Asia, the Nikkei is down 0.94% and the Hang Seng is up 0.14%.

242 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:28:17pm

re: #230 Dark_Falcon

You make the decision to try to save a life based on what is right, not based on what a lawyer will say. A hostile jury verdict is nothing compared to a hostile verdict from Jesus.

The law is not always an ass.

243 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:28:57pm

re: #164 Dustyvet

These machines are the ones that talk to you in an emergency, like the ones you see in airports and other places. It talks as you place the leads, and when to push the red button.

In other words, they are designed so that rank amateurs can use them successfully; which is the whole rationale behind them. Give the patient a zap before their heart's been down long enough to bring on brain damage. Your building's administrator has her head up her a**. I'd just ignore the rules, in this case, if it came to actually needing one.

244 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:29:39pm

re: #239 ArmyWife

Good Samaritan laws would generally cover John Q. Public in a case like this.

Which have been ignored by juries.

Still, I would rather be sued for trying to help someone than for just standing around and doing nothing.

245 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:29:40pm

re: #243 Alberta Oil Peon

In other words, they are designed so that rank amateurs can use them successfully; which is the whole rationale behind them. Give the patient a zap before their heart's been down long enough to bring on brain damage. Your building's administrator has her head up her a**. I'd just ignore the rules, in this case, if it came to actually needing one.

That about covers it.

246 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:29:45pm

re: #239 ArmyWife

Good Samaritan laws would generally cover John Q. Public in a case like this.



Used to be
the case. Not anymore.

247 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:29:54pm

re: #234 Dustyvet

Well, the only black part of this particular guy was Johnnie Walker Black.

It was well deserved.

A part of my miss spent youth.....Lucky I never got arrested.

248 3 wood  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:30:07pm

re: #214 summergurl

So the Obama Camp is prepared to open dialogue with Hamas?

willing to talk

I give it 6 months before the stuff hits the fan, bad.

249 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:30:21pm

re: #241 3 wood

Hang Seng is up 0.14%.

Hang Seng, bruddah.

250 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:30:38pm

re: #247 WhiteRasta

Well, the only black part of this particular guy was Johnnie Walker Black.

It was well deserved.

A part of my miss spent youth.....Lucky I never got arrested.

Great..:) well done.

251 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:30:52pm

re: #234 Dustyvet

Other then the black belt he was using to hold his pants up...:)

Indeed. I have three black belts, and a brown belt.

Suspenders fear me.

252 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:31:29pm

re: #242 Spare O'Lake

The law is not always an ass.

True. I would expect to prevail in a lawsuit, as well.

253 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:31:45pm

re: #201 WhiteRasta

That's undoubtably true, but some of the top guys from the last century have been brawlers. Motubu Choki is a prime example of this. And Angel Cabales is another. I never met Grand Master cabales, but my instructor had worked with him. He said the he was a thoroughly nasty individual. You have to understand, though, that that was a compliment.

It's not that the calm, collected monk type of martial artist is just a myth, rather that these men, despite their nearly supernatural prowess, were still humans who had dedicated a large part of their lives to learning how to fight, maim, and kill other human beings. Such people rarely do so out of the kindness of their hearts.

Nor do such men suffer fools gladly.

254 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:31:47pm

re: #251 Occasional Reader

Indeed. I have three black belts, and a brown belt.

Suspenders fear me.

LOL!

255 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:31:56pm

re: #246 unrealizedviewpoint


Used to be
the case. Not anymore.

Disagree. The CA decision omits medical assistance, i.e. defib.

256 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:32:04pm

re: #241 3 wood

less than half the high point reached in October of 89

Why was it so high in October of 89? I really don't recall that.

257 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:32:07pm

re: #248 3 wood

I give it 6 months before the stuff hits the fan, bad.

You are being rather conservative with that time frame, I think.

258 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:32:37pm

re: #251 Occasional Reader

Indeed. I have three black belts, and a brown belt.

Suspenders fear me.

I have a web belt in yellow, that reads "Police Line Do Not Cross" I bought it on Ebay for $2.50...:)

259 Last Mohican  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:32:40pm

I'm headed off to sleep. Weet dreams, all...

260 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:32:46pm

The CA Supreme Court made distinction between medical care (which is protected under the Good Samaritan law, so long as the care is determined to be reasonable,) and this action, which allegedly caused further harm to the already injured woman.

But I agree with the sentiment that this opens the door to similar suits and question what is "reasonable". Not shocked this was decided in CA at all.

261 3 wood  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:32:58pm

South Korea cuts interest rate to record low

HONG KONG (MarketWatch) -- The Bank of Korea slashed interest rates by half a percentage point Friday, bringing its key rate to record low 2.5% in an effort to prop up an economy suffering from a collapse in exports.
The rate cut adds to the four other reductions in the past three months, bringing the cumulative easing since October by the central bank to 275 basis points.
The rate cut was widely expected and inline with analysts polled by Dow Jones Newswires.
"The local economy is slowing very rapidly as export growth and domestic demand continues to decline," the central bank said in a statement Friday.
The central bank warned of more slowing in the months ahead as the U.S. and euro zone economies fall further into recession.
The rate cut follows data showing South Korean exports contracted 17.4% in December from a year earlier. Industrial production also was weaker in November, marking it fifth straight month of deceleration.

Remember these times folks, cause you will never see rates this low again in your lifetime after inflation gets ignited.

262 Opinionated  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:33:08pm

re: #241 3 wood

Bollinger Bands are very narrow and other indicators also show that a break out in one direction or another should be imminent.

263 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:33:12pm

re: #251 Occasional Reader

Indeed. I have three black belts, and a brown belt.

Suspenders fear me.

Garters dig you?

264 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:33:21pm

re: #259 Last Mohican

Thanks for helping debunk that video!

265 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:34:04pm

re: #264 MandyManners

Thanks for helping debunk that video!

Hear, hear!

266 3 wood  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:34:05pm

re: #256 Occasional Reader

Why was it so high in October of 89? I really don't recall that.

Sorry, poor wording on my part.

The high point of 89 points and some change was reached in October.

267 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:34:28pm

re: #261 3 wood

South Korea cuts interest rate to record low

Remember these times folks, cause you will never see rates this low again in your lifetime after inflation gets ignited.

Low interest rates don't mean diddly if the banks won't lend money. (I know you know that, 3 wood)

268 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:34:34pm

Night all. Can't wait to hear what the Idiot Messiah King Sultan has in store for us in tomorrows episode of Change I Don't Want To Believe!

269 3 wood  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:34:48pm

re: #257 FurryOldGuyJeans

You are being rather conservative with that time frame, I think.

I try to leave a little wiggle room.

270 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:35:27pm

re: #269 3 wood

I try to leave a little wiggle room.

Nah, you were just parroting Joey Plugs. ;)

271 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:35:31pm

re: #266 3 wood

Sorry, poor wording on my part.

The high point of 89 points and some change was reached in October.

Ah. Well, that makes a lot more sense, yes indeedy.

272 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:35:36pm

re: #238 ciaospirit

I wonder if they will start sacrificing their first-borns to the One once he officially takes office?

273 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:35:40pm

re: #268 ArmyWife

Night all. Can't wait to hear what the Idiot Messiah King Sultan has in store for us in tomorrows episode of Change I Don't Want To Believe!

LMAO, at least until I cry.

274 Opinionated  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:36:23pm

re: #256 Occasional Reader

Why was it so high in October of 89? I really don't recall that.

The Asian markets were in a turmoil then and people have no clue how close we came to a major crash.

275 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:36:24pm

re: #253 Iron Fist

Excellent point. I doubt such men would have wasted any time with a young idiot as I was in those days.

Having said that, I did have enough common sense to not go out looking for trouble with strangers.

I can count the fights I got into with one hand.

276 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:36:30pm

re: #259 Last Mohican

I'm headed off to sleep. Weet dreams, all...

Good job, Chingachkook!

277 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:37:33pm

This purported "National Championship" game is a joke.

USC would be up 38-10 by now on either of these two.

What a farce.

278 3 wood  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:37:54pm

re: #267 FurryOldGuyJeans

Low interest rates don't mean diddly if the banks won't lend money. (I know you know that, 3 wood)

Well, there is the indirect impact on the currency, cause when you lower interest rates the currency of that country tends to devalue. That then makes their goods cheaper for others to buy, and the supply of goods gets thinner, and prices will start to get bid up.

Some banks are starting to lend by the way.

279 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:37:58pm

re: #272 Iron Fist

I wonder if they will start sacrificing their first-borns to the One once he officially takes office?

No, Obama would not want that. He's not a pagan. I'm not entirely certain about his religious beliefs, but I believe he is a Christian and I know he is a Monotheist.

280 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:38:31pm

re: #253 Iron Fist

It's not that the calm, collected monk type of martial artist is just a myth

Myth I am not, grasshopper. Er, I mean... young Skywalker. Whatever.

281 summergurl  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:38:44pm

re: #248 3 wood

I give it 6 months before the stuff hits the fan, bad.

Me too - I hate to think the worst but do.

282 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:39:07pm

re: #278 3 wood

Well, there is the indirect impact on the currency, cause when you lower interest rates the currency of that country tends to devalue. That then makes their goods cheaper for others to buy, and the supply of goods gets thinner, and prices will start to get bid up.

Some banks are starting to lend by the way.

I know there is lending going on since the house next door sold a month ago.

283 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:40:08pm

Hot Air could use some help getting past Andrew Sullivan.

[Link: 2008.weblogawards.org...]

284 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:40:38pm

re: #281 summergurl

Me too - I hate to think the worst but do.

I just think the worst will keep getting worse for the next four years.

I hate being a pessimist.

285 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:40:45pm

re: #261 3 wood

South Korea cuts interest rate to record low

Remember these times folks, cause you will never see rates this low again in your lifetime after inflation gets ignited.

For entirely personal reasons, I'm just not looking to buy a house right now (may transfer overseas in the not-too-distant, too lazy to be an absentee landlord). Otherwise, I'd be all over getting a mortgage loan right now.

286 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:41:25pm

The Hysteria Channel is starting to irk me with Armageddon Week.

287 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:41:52pm

I'm going to be a dissenter here and say that I'm going to give President Elect Obama a fair chance.

The man has not taken office yet and is being criticized.

Now, I'm not an American and you all can tell me to piss off.

288 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:42:07pm

re: #277 JammieWearingFool

Utah'd be punching someone in the mouth too.

I guess.

289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:42:38pm

re: #287 WhiteRasta

Piss off. But I agree with you.

290 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:42:41pm

re: #275 WhiteRasta

I haven't been in a terrible lot of them. Most people tend to leave me alone. The last bar fight I was in, the guy grabbed me by the back of the neck and I turned around. That was the end of that. He damn near burst into tears.

His girlfriend/wife/significant other gave me a kiss at the end of the night. It was, all in all, rather amusing.

291 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:42:50pm

re: #286 MandyManners

The Hysteria Channel is starting to irk me with Armageddon Week.

Gotta love a channel that used to deal with history now deals with future events and hysteria. Even their historical shows are getting too progressive in their slant.

292 SteveC  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:43:35pm

re: #277 JammieWearingFool

This purported "National Championship" game is a joke.

USC would be up 38-10 by now on either of these two.

What a farce.

The officials don't seem to have good control over the game. They almost blew the coin toss, for crying out loud!

They are letting the teams jaw back and forth too much for my taste. Things are building towards a fight, and nobody wants the national championship decided by an injury or a penalty.

And I've seen that frakkin' Nissan Z too many times!

293 summergurl  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:43:41pm

re: #284 FurryOldGuyJeans

I just think the worst will keep getting worse for the next four years.

I hate being a pessimist.

You know how he has appointed some ex-Clinton people? Well it's pretty GD sad when you hope that someone listen's to Clinton people.

At least they've been around the block a few times.

294 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:44:05pm

re: #287 WhiteRasta

I'm going to be a dissenter here and say that I'm going to give President Elect Obama a fair chance.

The man has not taken office yet and is being criticized.

Now, I'm not an American and you all can tell me to piss off.

I am giving Him just as much of a fair chance as the Left gave Bush before his inauguration in 2001.

295 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:45:07pm
296 3 wood  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:45:07pm

re: #262 Opinionated

Bollinger Bands are very narrow and other indicators also show that a break out in one direction or another should be imminent.

Yeah I've seen some stuff on that. I tend to base my analysis not on the technical charts but more my grasp of macroeconomics.

There is a huge amount of cash sitting on the sidelines earning little if any yield. As soon as it looks like a positive risk adjusted yield can be found in the market going forward, you will see the cash torrent back into the market.

By the way did you get a load of Obama's speech today?

Not exactly inspiring, was it. He's scared of everything.

297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:45:15pm

re: #294 FurryOldGuyJeans

I am working real hard to be a better person than the Left was in 2001.

298 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:45:19pm

re: #290 Iron Fist

How the hell did you do that?

299 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:45:27pm

re: #293 summergurl

You know how he has appointed some ex-Clinton people? Well it's pretty GD sad when you hope that someone listen's to Clinton people.

At least they've been around the block a few times.

Listening to and appointing Clinton hacks makes as much sense as listening to Carter on how to be Presidential.

300 SpartanWoman  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:46:08pm

Condi just abstained from the security council vote

301 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:46:24pm
302 3 wood  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:46:29pm

re: #277 JammieWearingFool

Prediction for the Giants - Eagles?

303 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:46:34pm

re: #297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am working real hard to be a better person than the Left was in 2001.

Nah, I want to wallow around in the gutter for a while.

/s

304 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:46:52pm
305 greenmiler  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:46:54pm
306 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:47:05pm

re: #294 FurryOldGuyJeans

I am giving Him just as much of a fair chance as the Left gave Bush before his inauguration in 2001.

Yep.

307 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:47:06pm

re: #294 FurryOldGuyJeans

Good point but you have some intelligence and the left does not.

Give the guy a chance.

308 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:47:08pm

re: #301 taxfreekiller

piss off on yourself

Ok. ;)

309 Syrah  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:47:21pm

re: #287 WhiteRasta

I'm going to be a dissenter here and say that I'm going to give President Elect Obama a fair chance.

The man has not taken office yet and is being criticized.

Now, I'm not an American and you all can tell me to piss off.

Giving him a fair chance should not be confused with giving him a pass.

If Obama thinks that he can talk sense to Hamas, I have to think that Obama is not in touch with reality.

310 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:48:23pm

re: #307 WhiteRasta

Good point but you have some intelligence and the left does not.

Give the guy a chance.

He has already shown for me multiple instances He is undeserving. He has already "shot His wad" so to speak.

311 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:48:33pm
312 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:48:34pm

re: #302 3 wood

Prediction for the Giants - Eagles?

Giants, all the way. Eli Manning will outshine Donovan McNabb, though the latter will turn in a respectable performance.

313 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:48:35pm
The last bar fight I was in, the guy grabbed me by the back of the neck and I turned around. That was the end of that. He damn near burst into tears.

Having met Iron Fist in person, I don't find that story the slightest bit surprising.

314 SteveC  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:48:45pm

re: #297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am working real hard to be a better person than the Left was in 2001.

Pulse rate? Check!

Breathing? Check!

Total amount of Compassion? More than one ounce!

You shouldn't have much trouble!

315 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:48:45pm

re: #301 taxfreekiller

Is that remark directed to me?

316 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:49:16pm

re: #310 FurryOldGuyJeans

He has already shown for me multiple instances He is undeserving. He has already "shot His wad" so to speak.

So you're saying he's Bill Clinton? :)

317 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:49:38pm

re: #290 Iron Fist

His girlfriend/wife/significant other gave me a kiss at the end of the night.

He was there with all three of them?!

/

318 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:50:26pm

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

So you're saying he's Bill Clinton? :)

I just knew someone would chime in with that. ;)

319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:50:33pm

re: #313 Occasional Reader

Having met Iron Fist in person, I don't find that story the slightest bit surprising.

Well, he is disabled. (hand being made of metal and all).

320 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:51:01pm

re: #283 Sharmuta

Hot Air could use some help getting past Andrew Sullivan.

[Link: 2008.weblogawards.org...]

And never forget, no lead is insurmountable.

[Link: 2008.weblogawards.org...]

Do me right, Lizards. If it weren't for LGF, I'd never have even started a blog. So consider any success your success and an inspiration for any of you to do the same.

A major hat tip to Charles just for having this place where I could vent for the last four years.

321 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:51:37pm

re: #319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, he is disabled. (hand being made of metal and all).

And his punching is a little rusty...

322 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:51:48pm

re: #318 FurryOldGuyJeans

I just knew someone would chime in with that. ;)

It just was too good to pass up. Just like a good cigar. ;)

323 3 wood  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:51:55pm

re: #285 Occasional Reader

For entirely personal reasons, I'm just not looking to buy a house right now (may transfer overseas in the not-too-distant, too lazy to be an absentee landlord). Otherwise, I'd be all over getting a mortgage loan right now.

One strategy being kicked around, and I'm not suggesting anybody do this mind you, just mentioning it, is to take out a personal line of credit if you can get a low fixed rate, wait for inflation to take off, then borrow the money at the fixed lower rate and invest it at the increasing higher rate in the future.

It's a potential for legal arbitrage.

324 Opinionated  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:52:21pm

re: #296 3 wood

Coming at Obama from an admitted subjective distrustful view, I see in everything he says the 2012 campaign.

He is speaking in frightening terms about the economy now - which is against common sense when he should be calming everyone- so that when a quite expected expansion occurs later, he can claim the credit for an economic miraculous resurrection.

325 ciaospirit  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:52:21pm

re: #287 WhiteRasta

I'm going to be a dissenter here and say that I'm going to give President Elect Obama a fair chance.

The man has not taken office yet and is being criticized.

Now, I'm not an American and you all can tell me to piss off.

Give him a chance to ruin my country? I'll fight him every step of the way. Once he socializes medicine. And it doesn't work. It'll be damn near impossible to change it. Same with socialized ownership of the private sector. Same with socialized energy. I'll not help him ruin this country.

326 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:52:32pm

re: #322 Dark_Falcon

It just was too good to pass up. Just like a good cigar. ;)

What does a good cigar have to do with Bill Clinton? The operative word being good. ;)

327 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:52:40pm

re: #279 Dark_Falcon

No, Obama would not want that. He's not a pagan. I'm not entirely certain about his religious beliefs, but I believe he is a Christian and I know he is a Monotheist.

I don't for a minute believe that he is really a Christian, although he may think of himself as one. Trinity was a Church of Blackness/anti-American tripe, and he went there for twenty years.

Can I get a "God damn America!" from the choir? I thought I could.

OTOH, he claimed to be a Christian. He was very vocal in his proclamation of that fact. Can you imagine how the Press would have reacted if the One hadn't been the Democrat candidate?

The New York Times alone would have had a shit hemorrhage of epic proportions. He'd have been proclaimed to be the American Ayatollah for the radical American Taliban. The L³eft would have been hanging him in effigy, and Klegal Byrd and Al Sharpton would have co-chaired a cross-burning on the White House lawn.

328 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:52:58pm

OY

Just finished baking.

329 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:53:23pm

re: #323 3 wood

One strategy being kicked around, and I'm not suggesting anybody do this mind you, just mentioning it, is to take out a personal line of credit if you can get a low fixed rate, wait for inflation to take off, then borrow the money at the fixed lower rate and invest it at the increasing higher rate in the future.

It's a potential for legal arbitrage.

The idea had occurred to me.

We are all Argentinians now. [sigh]

330 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:53:24pm

re: #320 JammieWearingFool

And never forget, no lead is insurmountable.

[Link: 2008.weblogawards.org...]

Do me right, Lizards. If it weren't for LGF, I'd never have even started a blog. So consider any success your success and an inspiration for any of you to do the same.

A major hat tip to Charles just for having this place where I could vent for the last four years.

I appreciate your graciousness, Jammie.

331 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:53:35pm

re: #328 WriterMom

OY

Just finished baking.

You better share! ;)

332 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:53:39pm

re: #327 Iron Fist

Obama is at least as Christian as Pelosi is Catholic.

333 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:53:47pm

re: #327 Iron Fist

Preach it!

334 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:53:51pm

re: #328 WriterMom

Baking what? (Cake I hope)

335 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:54:01pm

re: #328 WriterMom

OY

Just finished baking.

Gimme' some cookies.

336 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:54:09pm

re: #332 jwb7605

Obama is at least as Christian as Pelosi is Catholic.

Oh, OUCH!

337 shanec99  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:54:15pm

I am having a good time...
First the financial industry appealed for a bail out... we paid up.
Then the auto industry appealed for a bail out... we paid up.

Now "Hustler" and "Girls Gone Wild" is asking for a bail out... this is so funny... Who can give a good reason... on the merits why we should not pay up?
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]
Talk about providing support for the bottom line and stiffening the resolve of the American Tax Payers. lol.

338 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:54:24pm

re: #328 WriterMom

OY

Just finished baking.

We're here to leaven your evening.

339 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:54:40pm

re: #294 FurryOldGuyJeans

100% Obama is the worst "President Elect" we've ever had in American History. I don't expect that he will go anywhere but downhill from here.

340 DesertSage  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:55:16pm

That was a pretty good little shaker we just had.

341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:55:18pm

re: #337 shanec99

Nice.

Larry Flynt is a scumbag, but he is very good at satire.

342 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:55:22pm

re: #338 Occasional Reader

We're here to leaven your evening.

Even the crusty Iron Fist?

343 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:55:48pm
344 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:55:53pm

Actually, I got two disturbing e-mails. One is that the Jewish community of Venezuela is seriously preparing for pogrom-like violence...apparently there is major incitement and the local Jews are terrified.

Two-Montreal police had to be summoned to the Israeli consulate to force out demonstrators-I cannot believe there has been a second breach of security at an Israeli consulate in Canada in as many days.

345 Racer X  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:56:02pm

Whole lotta shakin goin on!

346 shanec99  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:56:17pm

re: #287 WhiteRasta

I'm going to be a dissenter here and say that I'm going to give President Elect Obama a fair chance.

The man has not taken office yet and is being criticized.

Now, I'm not an American and you all can tell me to piss off.


Rasta... I agree with you, you ole dead raas.
But mek mi tell yu dis... me a go bawl out loud if im try fi impose did damn Fairness Doctrine pan wi.

347 freetoken  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:56:33pm

So, it looks like San Bernadino just had a medium size earthquake (4.9). Darn, my 4-plex really shakes... and I am many miles to the south...

348 SteveC  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:56:49pm

re: #325 ciaospirit

Give him a chance to ruin my country? I'll fight him every step of the way. Once he socializes medicine. And it doesn't work. It'll be damn near impossible to change it. Same with socialized ownership of the private sector. Same with socialized energy. I'll not help him ruin this country.

Hey doc, where are you?

349 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:56:50pm

re: #339 Iron Fist

100% Obama is the worst "President Elect" we've ever had in American History. I don't expect that he will go anywhere but downhill from here.

Every time Our Messiah-King opens His mouth to speechify, all that comes out are some inane platitudes and mangled quotes from former Presidents. Calling Him an Empty Suit is being VERY generous.

350 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:56:54pm

mm.I can smell the cookies from here..or is that?

351 3 wood  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:57:19pm

re: #324 Opinionated

He is speaking in frightening terms about the economy now - which is against common sense when he should be calming everyone- so that when a quite expected expansion occurs later, he can claim the credit for an economic miraculous resurrection.

Not exactly "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself" was it?

352 CommonCents  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:57:32pm

re: #204 Last Mohican

Also, any serious trauma patient would get all his or her clothes removed immediately upon arriving in the emergency room, whether or not his or her heart ever stopped. ER nurses get extremely good at doing this amazingly quickly, ....

So what you are saying is ER nurses do it best? When you absolutely, positively need to get your clothes off in a hurry....

353 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:57:35pm

re: #309 Syrah

Giving him a fair chance should not be confused with giving him a pass.

If Obama thinks that he can talk sense to Hamas, I have to think that Obama is not in touch with reality.

Or he prefers Hamas to Israel.

354 DesertSage  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:57:42pm

re: #345 Racer X

Whole lotta shakin goin on!

I felt it. Short but strong.

355 shanec99  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:57:43pm

re: #341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nice.

Larry Flynt is a scumbag, but he is very good at satire.


Yes... and I believe he is pointing out something that tax payers will have to take a good look at over the next few years.

356 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:57:49pm
357 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:57:56pm

Well, I made my usual Sour Cream Coffee cake (I have posted the recipe here before) and Banana Bread with Chocolate Chips, and it can be made as either a dairy cake or pareve (no milk ingredients so as to be able to be eaten with a meat meal).

358 summergurl  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:58:21pm

re: #339 Iron Fist

100% Obama is the worst "President Elect" we've ever had in American History. I don't expect that he will go anywhere but downhill from here.

I look at the last Dem Prez's and think "What were we thinking?"

Carter-- Clinton--- Obama

From ignorance to sex predator back to ignorance.. we buy the package and never look what's inside...

My Dem friends really believe we are going to have a big "change' the day he is sworn in. I think so too - just not the kind they are thinking.

359 SpartanWoman  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:58:50pm

re: #344 WriterMom

Yep, and condi's abstention is just another slap and will be used as justification for violence. "see even the great satan hates the little one"

360 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:59:02pm

re: #357 WriterMom

You are so attractive to me right now.

361 Racer X  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:59:02pm

re: #354 DesertSage

I felt it. Short but strong.

Yes it was.

362 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:59:10pm

I'm reading Laura Ingraham's "Shut Up And Sing"..very fun.

363 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:59:11pm

re: #340 DesertSage

That was a pretty good little shaker we just had.

Did you hear where it was centered yet?

364 3 wood  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:59:15pm

Good night everybody

365 summergurl  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:59:35pm

re: #332 jwb7605

Obama is at least as Christian as Pelosi is Catholic.


I think the Bishop wanted to have a little chat with her over that little abortion issue--

366 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:59:45pm

re: #358 summergurl

I look at the last Dem Prez's and think "What were we thinking?"

Carter-- Clinton--- Obama

From ignorance to sex predator back to ignorance.. we buy the package and never look what's inside...

My Dem friends really believe we are going to have a big "change' the day he is sworn in. I think so too - just not the kind they are thinking.

Obama is far worse than Simple Ignorance. I find it hard to put into exact words what I truly feel He represents, but Ignorance sure ain't it.

367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:59:51pm

Evenin' Wood!

368 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:59:56pm

re: #351 3 wood

Not exactly "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself" was it?

He's giving the speech FDR considered, but rejected, which was titled "HOLY F***NG S**T! If you're not panicked, you haven't been paying attention!"

369 DesertSage  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:00:02pm

re: #363 Pvt Bin Jammin

Did you hear where it was centered yet?

I think in San Bernardino.

370 Opinionated  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:00:15pm

re: #351 3 wood

Not exactly "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself" was it?

More like: Everything sucks so ""Here I come to save the day!"

371 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:00:17pm

re: #344 WriterMom

Actually, I got two disturbing e-mails. One is that the Jewish community of Venezuela is seriously preparing for pogrom-like violence...apparently there is major incitement and the local Jews are terrified.

Two-Montreal police had to be summoned to the Israeli consulate to force out demonstrators-I cannot believe there has been a second breach of security at an Israeli consulate in Canada in as many days.

There was a similar occurrence in Boston.

Boston Police arrested several people today when protesters opposed to Israel’s military incursion into the Gaza Strip rushed the lobby at the Park Plaza Building, which houses the Israeli Consulate.
372 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:00:18pm

re: #363 Pvt Bin Jammin

Did you hear where it was centered yet?

Coast Rica?

373 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:00:25pm

re: #366 FurryOldGuyJeans

Obama is far worse than Simple Ignorance. I find it hard to put into exact words what I truly feel He represents, but Ignorance sure ain't it.

I sense some malevolence.

374 freetoken  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:00:31pm

re: #363 Pvt Bin Jammin

See my link above. San Bernadino. Now uprated to a 5.0 .

375 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:00:38pm

re: #359 SpartanWoman

Please, pretty please with sugar on top, don't get me started on the High Priestess of Palestinianism Culthood.

376 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:00:40pm

re: #362 WriterMom

I'm reading Laura Ingraham's "Shut Up And Sing"..very fun.

Although I've always thought the title was kind of oxymoronic.

377 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:00:45pm
378 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:01:00pm

re: #360 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Only now?

379 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:01:19pm

re: #325 ciaospirit

Gun control is another of the things that once implemented becomes damn near impossible to reverse. I don't think people are going to exactly line up in the streets to turn in their guns if Obama tries to fuck us like that.

No, I don't think that it will prove to be an easily accomplished task to disarm the 200 million or so gun owners in America. And, at least for now, the Supreme Court is unlikely to back him either.

At least for now.

380 jaunte  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:01:28pm

re: #366 FurryOldGuyJeans

Remember the statement he made about keeping people relaxed by not making any sudden moves. He's a manipulator.

381 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:01:32pm

After some thought about the faked hospital footage I've come to the conclusion that Ch4 and CNN are despicable and lazy for airing Hamas propaganda I've come to despise the doctor, Mads Gilbert, even beyond the the Hamas supporting asshole who shot the footage to exploit his own brother's death. Gilbert took his valuable time away from dying and seriously injured women and children to fake a resuscitation effort. Of all the creeps involved in this story Gilbert is by far the most depraved.

382 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:01:34pm
383 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:01:34pm

re: #376 Occasional Reader

Yes. Kind of like Palestinian Intelligence.

384 SpartanWoman  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:01:41pm

re: #366 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ignorance is what the AMerican people employed when they voted for the O. And the media kept everyone in the dark.

385 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:01:41pm

re: #373 MandyManners

I sense some malevolence.

On my part or His?

386 Racer X  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:01:50pm

re: #374 freetoken

See my link above. San Bernadino. Now uprated to a 5.0 .

That's gonna cause some damage. Didn't last too long but it was quite a jolt.

387 Syrah  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:01:58pm

re: #366 FurryOldGuyJeans

Obama is far worse than Simple Ignorance. I find it hard to put into exact words what I truly feel He represents, but Ignorance sure ain't it.

Maybe the word is delusion.

I think Obama is a true believer.

388 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:01:58pm

re: #378 WriterMom

Well. You don't always smell like cake and chocolate chip banana bread.

389 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:02:30pm

re: #346 shanec99

Shane! How yu do?

So nice to see yu, mon!

390 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:02:31pm

re: #387 Syrah

Maybe the word is delusion.

I think Obama is a true believer.

He only believes in Himself.

391 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:02:32pm

re: #385 FurryOldGuyJeans

On my part or His?

His.

392 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:02:47pm
393 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:02:47pm

re: #381 Killgore Trout

KT, you are only starting to get a flavour of their depravity and the rot that burns through their every living breath.

394 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:02:53pm

re: #372 Sharmuta

Coast Rica?

I already had word of that one, from a friend on vacation in Costa Rica. He and his wife are okay, fortunately.

395 ciaospirit  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:02:57pm

re: #357 WriterMom

WM, do you happen to know what a Hasbara fellow is?

396 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:03:00pm

re: #374 freetoken

See my link above. San Bernadino. Now uprated to a 5.0 .

Thanks. I really felt it but it sure didn't last long. San Gabriel Valley here.

397 CommonCents  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:03:17pm

re: #382 Sharmuta

Good News, Everyone:

Qaeda Pakistan leader believed dead - US official

Kini and his dead lieutenant, Sheikh Ahmed Salim Swedan, were both Kenyan-born

Coincidence?

398 shanec99  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:03:24pm

re: #371 Kosh's Shadow


How come no one protests when suicide bombers blow up children in video arcades, or blow up night clubs, or blow up trains or set fires to cars, or...
?

399 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:03:41pm

re: #390 FurryOldGuyJeans

He only believes in Himself.

He's self subservient.

400 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:03:58pm

re: #391 MandyManners

His.

Some is not enough of an adequate quantity, then. ;)

401 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:04:03pm
402 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:04:04pm

re: #388 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I just might.

Stranger claims, I'm sure, have been made on teh intrawebby.

403 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:04:04pm

re: #332 jwb7605


Oh, that is entirely true. But Pelosie is about as much a Catholic as I am a large, purple vegetarian Tyrannosaurus Rex

404 shanec99  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:04:10pm

re: #375 WriterMom

Please, pretty please with sugar on top, don't get me started on the High Priestess of Palestinianism Culthood.

Who is that?

405 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:04:28pm

re: #382 Sharmuta

Good News, Everyone:

Qaeda Pakistan leader believed dead - US official

Every man's death lessens me.

/snicker

WOO-HOO!

406 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:04:31pm

re: #372 Sharmuta

Coast Rica?

That's sad to hear. I've been buried in work and not paying attention to the news today. Finally going to take a break.

407 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:04:42pm

re: #329 Occasional Reader

The idea had occurred to me.

We are all Argentinians now. [sigh]

Don't cry for me.

408 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:05:02pm

Good evening, Writer Mom. Shalom.

409 SteveC  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:05:06pm

re: #352 CommonCents

So what you are saying is ER nurses do it best? When you absolutely, positively need to get your clothes off in a hurry....

Operating Room nurses aren't bad, either.

410 summergurl  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:05:25pm

re: #398 shanec99

How come no one protests when suicide bombers blow up children in video arcades, or blow up night clubs, or blow up trains or set fires to cars, or...
?


Did you see the protests in Oakland over the shooting of an unarmed man by a BART police officer? Absolutely crazy - it makes me scared about as a society where we are headed.

411 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:05:27pm

re: #403 Iron Fist

Oh, that is entirely true. But Pelosie is about as much a Catholic as I am a large, purple vegetarian Tyrannosaurus Rex

I've read your recent posts upthread, and would never accuse you of being purple!

412 shanec99  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:05:27pm

re: #389 WhiteRasta

Shane! How yu do?

So nice to see yu, mon!


heh heh heh... coming home in a few months... cant wait.

413 revobob  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:05:29pm

re: #396 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thanks. I really felt it but it sure didn't last long. San Gabriel Valley here.

Kind of gentle roll here in Placentia, but I thought it went on for a while.

414 Syrah  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:05:37pm

re: #390 FurryOldGuyJeans

He only believes in Himself.

He has the ego to believe that he is the one that can actually make an Bill Ayersian Utopia a reality.

415 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:05:44pm

re: #369 DesertSage

I think in San Bernardino.

Thanks. How's everything going?

416 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:06:03pm

re: #395 ciaospirit

Yes I do. Hasbara is Hebrew for explanation (or propaganda), lehasbir in Hebrew is to explain. It's also used for 'information' or PR. Anyway, there are organizations that sponsor "Hasbara Fellowships" and bring people to Israel to show them the situation (military, academia, politics, nature, etc..) in the hopes that they will return to their communities as kind of ambassadors for Israel.

417 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:06:10pm

re: #381 Killgore Trout

even beyond the the Hamas supporting asshole who shot the footage to exploit his own brother's death.

Assuming, of course, the boy is actually dead. (I trust nothing these scumbags say.)

418 CommonCents  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:06:11pm

re: #409 SteveC

Operating Room nurses aren't bad, either.

We'll just go with nurses in general then. Time for a bath.

419 DesertSage  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:06:11pm

re: #406 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hey, guess where I just got a job?

420 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:06:31pm

re: #302 3 wood

Prediction for the Giants - Eagles?

Stay tuned, my friend. Picks coming tomorrow, or Saturday.

Though I'm thinking 27-10 Giants right now.

I'm slapping myself for turning down tickets, but we're going to watch the game with some friends in Manhattan; I'm bringing the family in and the women and children will have their fun in the city for the day.

The wives love this time of year, especially when the Giants are winning.

421 SpartanWoman  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:06:36pm

re: #404 shanec99

Who is that?

Rice

422 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:06:56pm

re: #404 shanec99

Condi.

423 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:07:01pm

re: #414 Syrah

He has the ego to believe that he is the one that can actually make an Bill Ayersian Utopia a reality.

It isn't so much that He Believes as much as He KNOWS He can.

424 WhiteRasta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:07:01pm

re: #412 shanec99

Home as in de yawd?

Going there in June. Buy yu a redstripe or 6?

425 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:07:01pm

re: #399 Sharmuta

He's self subservient.

Well, he is half Honco, after all.

426 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:07:05pm

I'm off to my happy place......
Babe Bhangra Pounde Ne

//Namaste, y'all

427 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:07:07pm

re: #419 DesertSage

Hey, guess where I just got a job?

Where?

428 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:07:30pm

re: #373 MandyManners

Yeah, I think malevolent is an appropriate word for it. I used to think that Jimmy Carter was a well-meaning fool, but now I think differently. He makes more sense if you look at him as an evil, anti-American anti-Semite. With bad dental work.

I guess I'll say that Obama has better teeth.

429 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:07:31pm

re: #417 Occasional Reader

Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if they raided a local morgue and borrowed a body.

430 Racer X  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:07:58pm

Tie game!

14 all.

431 esch  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:08:02pm

re: #414 Syrah

Ego and competence are 2 different things.

I can tell you unequivocally that he is nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is. Democrats fail at just about everything. Have faith.

432 DesertSage  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:08:25pm

re: #427 Pvt Bin Jammin

Where?

Do you remember Scott from Conrads? Not flooring Scott, but contractor Scott.

433 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:08:25pm

re: #408 WhiteRasta

Hey there!

434 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:08:28pm

re: #421 SpartanWoman

re: #422 WriterMom

Is this a jigsaw puzzle?
Two years ago, my wife said "I'd vote for her, she's really smart".
I have to admit, two years ago, she looked better than Obama.
Toss-up, now, IMO.

435 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:08:37pm

re: #426 Killgore Trout

Good night, Killgore- way to kick some ass today!

436 Syrah  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:08:41pm

re: #344 WriterMom

Actually, I got two disturbing e-mails. One is that the Jewish community of Venezuela is seriously preparing for pogrom-like violence...apparently there is major incitement and the local Jews are terrified.

Two-Montreal police had to be summoned to the Israeli consulate to force out demonstrators-I cannot believe there has been a second breach of security at an Israeli consulate in Canada in as many days.

Very worrisome.

437 shanec99  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:08:48pm

re: #410 summergurl

Did you see the protests in Oakland over the shooting of an unarmed man by a BART police officer? Absolutely crazy - it makes me scared about as a society where we are headed.


Didn't see it... don't see much TV where I am. Internet is lifeline to news here.

438 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:08:49pm

re: #428 Iron Fist

Speaking of President Carter. Have you heard about all of the "Habitat" homeowners getting pissed because the houses are falling apart?

Read something about that the other day.

439 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:08:49pm

re: #398 shanec99

How come no one protests when suicide bombers blow up children in video arcades, or blow up night clubs, or blow up trains or set fires to cars, or...
?

Nobody minds dead Jooos.
I wonder why nobody protested when Russia pillaged Chechnya.
/Actually, I don't wonder.

440 Alouette  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:08:56pm

re: #328 WriterMom

OY

Just finished baking.

I haven't started yet.

441 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:09:01pm

re: #425 Occasional Reader

Well, he is half Honco, after all.

Honco, honco.

442 jcm  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:09:20pm

re: #204 Last Mohican

Around here we do it in the Aid or Medic unit in the field. Part of a decent patient assessment.

I was taking college classes and one day over heard a girl describing the accident she'd been in and how all her clothes and been cut off while she was unconscious, and embarrassing it was and her clothes had been destroyed. I took a look at her and realized she been my patient a few weeks before.

443 ciaospirit  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:09:22pm

re: #416 WriterMom

Thanks. Been contacted. Just making sure they're not nutroots.

444 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:09:29pm

re: #425 Occasional Reader

Well, he is half Honco, after all.

Yes- a self hating half-honco.

445 WriterMom